# Ep 33. Yaron Brook: On Selfishness, Immigration, War, Love, Liberty and of Course Ayn Rand

An episode of [The John Stossel Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1716997530), 2 Jun 2025, 1 h 09 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/e5139634/podcast/play/103506228/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-1%2Fa3deffcb-b121-f4b5-0a9a-159cb77514a6.mp3

People who run businesses are often smeared. But they shouldn't be. “Making our lives better is what entrepreneurs do. We take it all for granted,” says Yaron Brook, Chair of the Ayn Rand Institute. In this hour-long conversation, Brook defends the marketplace and the self-interest that drives it. He also carves out the path of self-interest through mountains of big issues: war, poverty, immigration, drugs and children--even how self-interest is important for your love life.

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