# Ep. 17 Johan Norberg: On Sweden’s “Socialism,” the Loneliness "Epidemic,” Degrowth and other Myths

An episode of [The John Stossel Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1716997530), 15 Jul 2024, 40 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/e5139634/podcast/play/89187390/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-6-13%2Fce154e90-aada-d74f-69a7-6024339c8589.mp3

Many people today want socialism. They hate capitalism. They say it hurts the poor. But that's just not true. In this podcast, author and historian Johan Norberg explains how capitalism saves lives and why socialism always fails. Norberg also busts other trending myths like the idea that loneliness is an "epidemic," economic growth is bad, and the widely repeated claim that his home country, Sweden, is a socialist success.

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