# Statecraft 2.0: Dennis Ross

An episode of [NatSec Matters](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1711240452), 30 Apr 2025, 1 h 03 min.

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Andrew Shapiro talks with former US Ambassador Dennis Ross, who argues that the country's foreign policy needs a reboot. Amb. Ross explains the principles of "Statecraft 2.0" – why the US must adapt its leadership for a challenging multipolar world, navigating the global influence and interests of China and Russia.

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