# Special Episode: The Next Move in the Iran Crisis with Richard Nephew

An episode of [NatSec Matters](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1711240452), 18 Jun 2025, 1 h 04 min.

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In this special episode, Michael talks with Iran expert Richard Nephew, who warns of impending U.S. military strikes on Iran's deeply buried nuclear facilities—a task only the American military can achieve. The former NSC official casts doubt on Israel's regime change strategy, fearing it could backfire and lead to an even more hardline Iranian government. Richard also discusses Iran's potential for escalating attacks on key shipping channels and regional energy infrastructure, risking a wider conflict, all while the hope of an international nuclear deal hangs in the balance.

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