# The Trump-China Dilemma: Chris Johnson

An episode of [NatSec Matters](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1711240452), 18 Dec 2024, 40 min.

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Michael talks with Chris Johnson, head of China Strategies Group, about Beijing's vulnerabilities and its uneasy anticipation of Donald Trump's return to the White House. They explore the high-stakes rivalry between the U.S. and China, including economic tensions, Xi Jinping's grip on power, and the geopolitical flashpoints that could redefine the global order.

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