# Lashing/dabbing a seed/cherry, moral victories, and why do the Aussies hate Bazball?

An episode of [Football Cliches](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1711046479), 20 Nov 2025, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/COMG5970742256.mp3?updated=1763668068

This, is Cricket Cliches, the all-new, slightly strange cousin of your favourite football podcast hosted by commentator Daniel Norcross with cricket journalists Dan Gallan and Dave Tickner, and the soothingly familiar presence of FC regular Nick Miller. In our very first episode, on the eve of The Ashes, we dive headlong into the Bazball debate… why does it wind Australians up so much? And while we’re at it, just call the ball a ball. We try to escape the “moral victory” maze and there’s a look back at the article which inspired the show, Dan G’s dictionary of batting vernacular. And we spend too much time trying to come up with names for a cricketing equivalent of Mesut/Haaland/Dicks before answering our first listener question: what exactly is a ‘heavy ball’? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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