# The threshold for being "rudderless" & Tour de France riders as footballers

An episode of [Football Cliches](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1711046479), 16 Jul 2025, 45 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/COMG2052102095.mp3?updated=1753943607

Adam Hurrey is joined on the midweek Adjudication Panel by Charlie Eccleshare & David Walker. On the agenda: The knowledgeable Wimbledon crowd being too knowledgeable, ex-Tottenham midfield maestros in West African percussion, Adam's addiction to identifying football matches in the background of TV shows, questionable depictions of the football calendar in Danish science fiction novels and much more. Meanwhile, the panel give their vivid images of Tour de France riders as football players, based on their name alone. Sign up for Dreamland, the new members-only Football Clichés experience, to access our exclusive new show and much more: https://dreamland.footballcliches.com Get your ticket for the Football Clichés Live tour this October: https://dreamland.footballcliches.com Visit nordvpn.com/cliches to get four extra months on a two-year plan with NordVPN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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