# The Real Malala: Jeans, Crushes, & Healing

An episode of [What Now? with Trevor Noah](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1710609544), 16 Oct 2025, 1 h 50 min.

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Malala like you’ve never seen her -- In this deeply personal conversation, MalalaYousafzai opens up about rediscovering herself beyond the headlines by learning to laugh again, making friends at Oxford, falling in love, and learning to heal through therapy. A candid, moving portrait of the woman behind the icon. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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