# What the gaps in Andy Burnham’s speech reveal

An episode of [Politics At Sam and Anne's](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1709628885), 30 Sep 2026, 24 min.

Audio: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/435e74f8-153f-48bd-899f-ce4e2b1cffc1.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=e0c28668-b961-43cf-8d6c-6ba62ef8a7a3&aw_0_1st.episodeid=435e74f8-153f-48bd-899f-ce4e2b1cffc1

A lot has been said about the prime minister’s first speech as leader to the Labour party conference. But what didn’t Andy Burnham say? Have the public understood the new PM’s big policy offer? And why was there nothing substantial on welfare reform? Sam Coates and Anne McElvoy examine the headline polling on the Burnham speech – wondering if the public back his triple lock ‘adjustment’ to fix social care and whether the numbers add up. The duo also focus on why the prime minister has turned to reddit to get his message over – in a bid to beat the AI algorithm. Remember you can catch up on the latest de-brief edition of Andy Burnham’s speech here.

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