# Comparison Is The Thief of Joy with Johnnyswim

An episode of [50 Fires: Money and Meaning with Carl Richards](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1709551590), 17 Jan 2024, 1 h 10 min.

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Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez of the musical duo Johnnyswim open up about the meaning of money in their creative partnership and marriage. Money disagreements are a part of any relationship, but it's how you work through them to forge a unified financial life, and throughout their career, Abner and Amanda have prioritized creative control and financial independence. Abner and Amanda released their first music as Johnnyswim in 2008, and married a year later in 2009. Since then, they’ve released a number of successful albums and EPs, toured all over the world (many times with their kids in tow), and they’ve released two shows on Magnolia Network, ‘In the Kitchen with Abner and Amanda’ and a docuseries about their life, simply titled ’The Johnnyswim Show”. Talking about money is hard, and talking about it with a couple can be even harder, but as you’ll soon hear, it can make all the difference in any relationship. Carl Instagram: @behaviorgap Blind Nil Instagram: @blindnilaudio Please direct business inquires to: blindnilaudio@magnolia.com Cover Art: Josh Passler - TheFinArtist.com Music Credits: Alexandra Woodward / Rabbit Reggae / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com Cody Francis / Wherever You’re Going / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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