# Optimizing Female Health, Mindy Pelz on Fasting, Menopause, and Fertility

An episode of [A Really Good Cry](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1708895338), 6 May 2025, 1 h 11 min.

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In this episode of A Really Good Cry, I speak with Dr. Mindy Pelz, a fasting researcher, bestselling author, and expert in women’s health. Dr. Pelz shares the latest science on what happens in the body after a fast—and why your first meal can significantly influence the results of your fasting routine. We explore how fasting impacts the gut microbiome, the types of foods that support recovery and metabolic health post-fast, and which foods can diminish the benefits of your efforts. Dr. Pelz also discusses the role of fermented foods and essential minerals like magnesium and zinc in optimizing fasting outcomes. You’ll gain insight into common fasting mistakes, how fasting protocols should differ between men and women, and how stress and hormonal shifts—especially during menopause—affect digestion and nutrient absorption. Whether you’re new to fasting or refining your approach, this episode offers evidence-based strategies to help you break your fast in a way that supports long-term health and vitality. What We Discuss: • 00:00 Introduction • 00:51 From Chiropractics To Writing Books • 06:01 Should Women Fast? • 10:08 Why You Should Rest Before Your Period • 12:33 Trust Your Own Instincts • 15:48 Best Time To Fast • 25:21 Men Fast Vs Women Fast • 28:08 Hormonal Imbalance In Women • 41:35 Best Foods To Eat After Fasting • 50:33 The Grandmother Hypothesis • 54:27 Supplements For Women • 58:27 Detox Everyday! • 59:46 Nurture Yourself To Eliminate Stress • 1:07:35 Hormone Replacement Therapy Follow Dr. Mindy: https://drmindypelz.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-mindy-pelz https://youtube.com/@drmindychiropractic https://www.facebook.com/share/ https://www.instagram.com/dr.mindypelz Follow Radhi: https://www.instagram.com/radhidevlukia/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxWe9A4kMf9V_AHOXkGhCzQ https://www.facebook.com/radhidevlukia1/ https://www.tiktok.com/@radhidevluki See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: We are living in a world that's telling women what
[0:03] Speaker 1: we should look like, what we should be doing. That
[0:06] Speaker 1: is making us feel unsafe, and that is destroying us for.
[0:10] Speaker 2: Monally, Doctor Mindi Pel's I'm so excited to have you here,
[0:13] Speaker 2: and I think the work that you are doing is
[0:15] Speaker 2: just so important.
[0:17] Speaker 1: So I experimented with these five women and I said,
[0:19] Speaker 1: let's give it ninety days of this. All of them
[0:22] Speaker 1: within thirty days got pregnant.
[0:23] Speaker 3: No way, And so should women be fasting?
[0:25] Speaker 1: And this is going to sound like I'm contradicting myself,
[0:28] Speaker 1: but it's an absolute yes, and there are sometimes it's no.
[0:35] Speaker 2: I'm Radivka And on my podcast A really Good Cry,
[0:38] Speaker 2: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space
[0:42] Speaker 2: for raw, unfiltered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you
[0:46] Speaker 2: to tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together. Mindy,
[0:50] Speaker 2: thank you, thank you so much for being here. I
[0:53] Speaker 2: have been a fan for a very long time. And
[0:57] Speaker 2: your Instagram videos, whatever podcast you go on seem to
[1:00] Speaker 2: be on my feed of going viral constantly. And it's
[1:05] Speaker 2: not just what you speak about your nature. Since the
[1:08] Speaker 2: moment you walked in the door, you have such a calm,
[1:11] Speaker 2: warm energy. So thank you so much for bringing that
[1:12] Speaker 2: into my home.
[1:13] Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for having me.
[1:15] Speaker 2: No, I really I feel like I'm so excited to
[1:17] Speaker 2: have you here. And I think the work that you
[1:19] Speaker 2: are doing is just so important for women.
[1:22] Speaker 3: So thank you for what you do. So the first
[1:24] Speaker 3: question I want to ask.
[1:25] Speaker 2: You actually was what took you from a degree in
[1:28] Speaker 2: chiropractics to writing books on fasting, menopause and so many
[1:32] Speaker 2: more incredible topics.
[1:34] Speaker 1: This is such a good question, and it's so funny
[1:36] Speaker 1: because there's some questions that people don't ask me. Yeah,
[1:38] Speaker 1: and I'm like, they should ask me this. Oh, and
[1:40] Speaker 1: that is.
[1:41] Speaker 3: One amazing I was so intrigued. I actually want to know.
[1:43] Speaker 1: So this is really interesting. What most people don't realize
[1:47] Speaker 1: is that in chiropractic school, you are literally trained that
[1:51] Speaker 1: the body heels itself.
[1:52] Speaker 3: Wow.
[1:52] Speaker 1: So every single class you learn, from biochemistry to neuroanatomy,
[1:58] Speaker 1: to cardiopulmonary physiology to muscule skeletal health is all through
[2:03] Speaker 1: that lens that the body is constantly doing the right
[2:06] Speaker 1: thing at the right time. When I got into practice,
[2:11] Speaker 1: I started to integrate all the different ways that people's
[2:14] Speaker 1: body gets off course and what are all the different
[2:17] Speaker 1: things that cause people's body to not heal? And we
[2:21] Speaker 1: call them interferences, and usually it's physical, emotional or chemical interferences.
[2:27] Speaker 1: And so I would sit with my patients. In my head,
[2:30] Speaker 1: I was like, is this physical emotional chemical?
[2:32] Speaker 3: Like?
[2:33] Speaker 1: What is it? And I realized that was about the time,
[2:37] Speaker 1: I mean I was in practice, like twenty seven years ago.
[2:40] Speaker 1: It was when I started my practice. It also happened
[2:43] Speaker 1: to be when glyphosate was introduced into our food system
[2:49] Speaker 1: and was starting to be sprayed on all kinds of
[2:52] Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables. And I started to see, like within
[2:55] Speaker 1: the first five years of practice, that people were going
[2:58] Speaker 1: from coming in with one symptom to people coming in
[3:01] Speaker 1: with like ten symptoms. And so I started to look
[3:05] Speaker 1: at environmentally, like what was going on that was attacking
[3:08] Speaker 1: so many people? And that's when I realized, wait, I gotta,
[3:13] Speaker 1: I gotta we gotta work on retraining people on how
[3:15] Speaker 1: to eat. We got to figure out how to help
[3:17] Speaker 1: people detox, We got to figure out how people can
[3:20] Speaker 1: get on supplements and then get off supplements. Like I
[3:23] Speaker 1: just started thinking deeper about what was causing blocking the
[3:27] Speaker 1: body from healing itself.
[3:29] Speaker 2: It's so interesting because when you hit chiropractics, you think, oh,
[3:31] Speaker 2: it's a physical body exactly, you're fix the way that
[3:35] Speaker 2: I woke, well, the way that I move. But it's
[3:38] Speaker 2: incredible that it's so much deeper than So.
[3:40] Speaker 1: It's the number one principle of chiropractic as the body
[3:43] Speaker 1: heals itself and our job is to just remove the interference.
[3:48] Speaker 1: So like when a patient would come in and be
[3:50] Speaker 1: like you healed me, I'd be like, no, no, no,
[3:53] Speaker 1: I didn't heal you at all. You healed you. All
[3:56] Speaker 1: we did together was figure out what was interfering. And
[4:01] Speaker 1: with fasting, that is where I got so excited. Yeah,
[4:05] Speaker 1: because I was like, wait a second, somebody can heal
[4:08] Speaker 1: themselves without any money. I can teach the world how
[4:12] Speaker 1: a tool where their body can heal themselves and they
[4:15] Speaker 1: don't need any time or money. Those were the biggest
[4:18] Speaker 1: hurdles that I saw.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Healing and then fasting was something that you started studying
[4:23] Speaker 2: and came across yep.
[4:25] Speaker 1: I became obsessed with it. So there's a really famous study.
[4:28] Speaker 1: Doctor yosh Uriyosumi in twenty sixteen won the Nobel Prize
[4:34] Speaker 1: in Medicine and Physiology for a term called atophagy, and
[4:39] Speaker 1: it was that the cells detoxed themselves in the absence
[4:43] Speaker 1: of food. Well, at that time, I was doing so
[4:45] Speaker 1: much detox with my patients, and I was like, okay, well,
[4:49] Speaker 1: the goal of health is not to be on a
[4:50] Speaker 1: Brazilian supplements. What if I could get them to fast
[4:54] Speaker 1: and they could detox themselves without all these supplements. So
[4:58] Speaker 1: I literally, for about I don't know, five years, I
[5:01] Speaker 1: spent about twenty thirty hours a week on PubMed just
[5:04] Speaker 1: looking at all the studies on fasting and trying to
[5:07] Speaker 1: match them up and figure it out. And then my
[5:10] Speaker 1: YouTube channel was like a baby at that time, and
[5:13] Speaker 1: so I was like, well, let me just teach this
[5:14] Speaker 1: to my patients, let me teach it to the world.
[5:17] Speaker 1: And on YouTube, I kept asking people like, give me
[5:19] Speaker 1: your feedback, give me your feedback, tell me what you're noticing,
[5:22] Speaker 1: and people give me their feedback. And I just started
[5:25] Speaker 1: to see what was working and what wasn't working.
[5:27] Speaker 2: And that is actually the best way to see if
[5:29] Speaker 2: something's working or not. Right, like the fact that you
[5:32] Speaker 2: the proof is in the pudding, Like you know it's
[5:34] Speaker 2: working because you are seeing it with your own eyes.
[5:36] Speaker 2: You're experiencing with your own patients, and so there is
[5:39] Speaker 2: no better evidence than firsthand experience that you are having. Yeah,
[5:43] Speaker 2: you write about women fasting, specifically, you have a book
[5:47] Speaker 2: called Fast Like a Girl. You also have a book
[5:48] Speaker 2: called Eat Like a Girl, don't you? Yes, Eat like
[5:50] Speaker 2: a girl or Eat like a woman?
[5:51] Speaker 1: No, no, Eat like a girl.
[5:53] Speaker 4: I like, a friend of mine said to me the
[5:55] Speaker 4: other day, when do I get to be a woman?
[5:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like it.
[5:58] Speaker 1: No, you don't get to be a woman. Explain why.
[6:00] Speaker 1: I'm like you would be a woman, but not when
[6:02] Speaker 1: you're reading my books.
[6:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. Fast like
[6:05] Speaker 3: a Girl, Eat Like a Guy.
[6:06] Speaker 2: And I think your most recent book is a book
[6:08] Speaker 2: based on menopause.
[6:08] Speaker 3: Right then Reset the menopause.
[6:10] Speaker 1: Reset actually came, but was the first one that first,
[6:13] Speaker 1: It was the very first one because as I was
[6:15] Speaker 1: discovering fasting and I was playing with some Keto principles
[6:18] Speaker 1: and I was detoxing. My practice was built off what
[6:21] Speaker 1: I call the Mama bears, where all these women came
[6:24] Speaker 1: in and they're like, can you just write down what
[6:27] Speaker 1: you're teaching?
[6:27] Speaker 4: Is?
[6:28] Speaker 1: So I put that into the menopause research.
[6:31] Speaker 2: Amazing, so so many different topics covered, but I went
[6:33] Speaker 2: to start with fasting. Yeah, of course, and I guess
[6:35] Speaker 2: my first question is should women be fasting? So many
[6:38] Speaker 2: things that you can absorb online, but I would love
[6:40] Speaker 2: to hear from you what your experience with the has been.
[6:42] Speaker 1: This is going to sound like I'm contradicting myself, but
[6:45] Speaker 1: it's an absolute yes, and there are sometimes it's no yes.
[6:51] Speaker 1: So that's confusing because we like absolutes, I know, especially
[6:55] Speaker 1: when it comes to like a real yeah.
[6:57] Speaker 3: No one likes duality.
[6:58] Speaker 1: No one likes no.
[6:59] Speaker 2: One likes it, I know, but maybe right exactly, but
[7:03] Speaker 2: please expand. I would love to hear if women are
[7:06] Speaker 2: supposed to fast, when should we be fasting?
[7:08] Speaker 5: Yeah?
[7:08] Speaker 3: And what are the benefits of it?
[7:10] Speaker 1: So let's look at the primary sex hormones of that
[7:14] Speaker 1: run a woman, and they really are estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone.
[7:19] Speaker 1: So the challenge that we have with every any lifestyle
[7:22] Speaker 1: tool is that estrogen and progesterone want dramatically different things.
[7:27] Speaker 1: So I always say that they're like twin sisters. They
[7:29] Speaker 1: have build the same name, we give them the same
[7:32] Speaker 1: category of family name sex hormones, but they have vastly
[7:36] Speaker 1: different personalities. So estrogen loves when you keep glucose and
[7:41] Speaker 1: insulin down. If you can keep glucose and insulin down,
[7:45] Speaker 1: estrogen thrives. Okay, she also doesn't really mind if cortisol
[7:50] Speaker 1: goes up. She's like, if you're stressed, She's like, no worries,
[7:53] Speaker 1: I can be. I can still make my appearance. I
[7:55] Speaker 1: can still be, you know, show up for you. O.
[7:59] Speaker 1: Progesterones completely the different, different animal. What she wants is
[8:03] Speaker 1: glucose to be higher, and she wants you not to
[8:07] Speaker 1: raise cortisol. Oh and intuitively we know this because what
[8:11] Speaker 1: do we do the week before our period?
[8:13] Speaker 3: Eat chocolate?
[8:14] Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know why we eat chocolate Because it
[8:17] Speaker 1: has magnesium in it and it's higher in sugar. And
[8:21] Speaker 1: so progesterones like, bring glucose up, give me some magnesium.
[8:25] Speaker 1: And then we start craving carbs, chocolate and sugar, and
[8:29] Speaker 1: then we This is the thing that drives me crazy
[8:32] Speaker 1: is because then we shame ourselves. We're like, I can't
[8:34] Speaker 1: stick to my diet. Something must be wrong.
[8:38] Speaker 3: Ago, yeah, perfect.
[8:40] Speaker 1: But all progesterone is saying is like I need a
[8:42] Speaker 1: little more. I need a little more glucose. I need
[8:45] Speaker 1: the it's like making think of it like baking a cake,
[8:48] Speaker 1: like you need flour. So if you're gonna make progesterone,
[8:51] Speaker 1: you need glucose. Okay, so not good to be fasting
[8:55] Speaker 1: when progesterone is showing up, But estrogen totally great. She
[9:00] Speaker 1: loves it. You can fast all you want when she
[9:02] Speaker 1: shows up and.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Out of interest the workouts that you do. Does that
[9:07] Speaker 2: then make a difference because I imagine that if it's craving
[9:10] Speaker 2: a lot of glucose, If you're craving a lot of
[9:11] Speaker 2: glucose at the same time, would high intensity workouts and
[9:15] Speaker 2: those type of intense things that you're putting your body through,
[9:18] Speaker 2: would they also contradict.
[9:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, So I love that your brain went there, And
[9:23] Speaker 1: this is what I always think with fast like a girl.
[9:25] Speaker 1: I feel like we cracked open a conversation that got
[9:28] Speaker 1: a lot of women going. But okay, well what about
[9:30] Speaker 1: this and what about that? So here's the thing about
[9:33] Speaker 1: estrogen and workouts. When estrogen is high in our body,
[9:37] Speaker 1: our tendons and our ligaments and are very flexible. Right,
[9:42] Speaker 1: you can push your workout strong when estrogen shows up,
[9:45] Speaker 1: which is pretty much day one through day fifteen, right,
[9:49] Speaker 1: Like go ahead, do run a marathon. Push your workouts hard,
[9:53] Speaker 1: but the closer you get to ovulation, like day ten
[9:56] Speaker 1: to day fifteen, careful with your box jumps and your
[10:00] Speaker 1: hit training, because you could tear a muscle very or
[10:04] Speaker 1: a ligament really easily. So that's the only exception there.
[10:08] Speaker 3: No, I've definitely experienced that.
[10:10] Speaker 2: The first the week before my period, I have to
[10:13] Speaker 2: be so careful with how much weight I put onto
[10:16] Speaker 2: the machinefect or like if I'm doing hip thrust, then
[10:20] Speaker 2: actually the weight that I put, especially around my lower
[10:23] Speaker 2: bag or especially in my back ere or my legs,
[10:27] Speaker 2: I cannot do as heavyweights as I usually would because
[10:30] Speaker 2: I end up feeling back pain or end up injuring myself.
[10:33] Speaker 3: So I've really learned.
[10:34] Speaker 2: I lend it the hard way because I did it
[10:36] Speaker 2: a couple of years ago where I pushed myself way
[10:38] Speaker 2: too hard, and I was like, oh, there is such
[10:40] Speaker 2: a pattern I'm seeing between the week before my period
[10:43] Speaker 2: and how much I can really push myself in my workout.
[10:46] Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a huge one. This is going
[10:49] Speaker 1: to end the question of PMS right here, is that
[10:53] Speaker 1: what you are expressing is progesterone. If she could talk
[10:57] Speaker 1: to you. She would say, Hey, week before your period,
[11:00] Speaker 1: I don't want you to raise cortisol too high. I
[11:04] Speaker 1: actually want you to do more of a recovery phase.
[11:06] Speaker 1: I want you to rest more. You the week before
[11:09] Speaker 1: our periods, we were meant to rest, we were meant
[11:12] Speaker 1: to raise glucose. We're not meant to push it. The
[11:16] Speaker 1: minute we push it and cortisol goes high, what happens?
[11:21] Speaker 1: I always say, progesterone goes shy, she's out. And then
[11:26] Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you were irritable because progesterone brings gabba.
[11:30] Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, we're irritable, we're starving, we
[11:34] Speaker 1: are you know, edgy. You don't want to be around us,
[11:37] Speaker 1: But that's because you're not playing by the rules that
[11:39] Speaker 1: progesterone has. And it's chill out, eat some carbs, relax, recover.
[11:45] Speaker 1: Once you start bleeding, boom, Now you can go into
[11:48] Speaker 1: hyper performance mode.
[11:49] Speaker 2: And it's interesting that your body really does tell you
[11:52] Speaker 2: what it needs and what it wants, because those cravings come,
[11:55] Speaker 2: and sometimes it's not just your mind playing with you.
[11:57] Speaker 2: It's literally your body screaming at you, saying, I need
[11:59] Speaker 2: some more fuel, Give me some more.
[12:01] Speaker 3: You'll stop your dying right now.
[12:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is where like the female part of
[12:06] Speaker 1: it really gets to my heart, because we have been
[12:10] Speaker 1: taught to distrust our bodies. We've been taught that our
[12:15] Speaker 1: bodies are thriving. If there's a number on the scale,
[12:18] Speaker 1: that's the number that we like. We're taught that if
[12:21] Speaker 1: we look in the mirror and we like what we see,
[12:23] Speaker 1: or if we can put a filter on and Instagram
[12:26] Speaker 1: and make everybody go you look so gorgeous, that that's health. No,
[12:30] Speaker 1: your beautiful feminine body is like giving you signals all
[12:34] Speaker 1: day long. But culturally, we haven't been taught how to
[12:38] Speaker 1: clue in.
[12:39] Speaker 2: I think we're also constantly taught how not to trust
[12:41] Speaker 2: our body, because we're told that we should always go
[12:43] Speaker 2: to other people to learn about bingo. I noticed that
[12:46] Speaker 2: so much growing up. I really I got to a
[12:47] Speaker 2: point where I was like, it's not that I just
[12:49] Speaker 2: don't know my body. I don't know my own mind.
[12:50] Speaker 2: And if I don't know my own mind, how can
[12:52] Speaker 2: I know my own body? And so I think there's
[12:54] Speaker 2: been there's such an emphasis put on if you get
[12:57] Speaker 2: a cold or and I'm not saying not to go
[12:58] Speaker 2: to the doctor's people but if you cold, you get
[13:00] Speaker 2: a cough, if you get anything, listen to what someone
[13:03] Speaker 2: else is saying yes, rather than saying, oh, why don't
[13:06] Speaker 2: you try and listen to what your body is telling you,
[13:09] Speaker 2: because it's screaming at you in some way, whether it's
[13:11] Speaker 2: through your skin, whether it's through your hair, whether it's
[13:13] Speaker 2: through the way that you're moving, the movement that you have.
[13:16] Speaker 2: Your body's trying to tell you something. But we're constantly
[13:20] Speaker 2: told to trust in other people's opinion about our own body.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Oh, I just love that you said that, because that
[13:27] Speaker 1: is the cruxt of every book I write, every video
[13:30] Speaker 1: I do, is I'm trying to explain it so women
[13:33] Speaker 1: understand it so that they can make better choices. And
[13:37] Speaker 1: I'll use an example, a recent one for me is,
[13:40] Speaker 1: since evacuating from the fires, I've woken up every morning
[13:44] Speaker 1: an incredible anxious state and I can feel this like
[13:48] Speaker 1: gripping in my chest. And so for three weeks I've
[13:52] Speaker 1: been walking around like an elephant on my chest. And
[13:55] Speaker 1: so two days ago, I was meditating in the morning
[13:57] Speaker 1: and I finally took my own advice, was like, okay, body,
[14:01] Speaker 1: what do you want? What are you telling me? And
[14:05] Speaker 1: the word surrender. It came and the minute I was like,
[14:08] Speaker 1: I don't have any control over what's going on with
[14:11] Speaker 1: my house and the palace, sads. I have to completely surrender.
[14:15] Speaker 3: The pain went away.
[14:16] Speaker 1: But we can do that with every single Symptomly have
[14:21] Speaker 1: that relationship with your body of like what are you
[14:24] Speaker 1: trying to tell me, as opposed to shaming it, guilty
[14:28] Speaker 1: in it, which is what a lot of women do.
[14:30] Speaker 2: We seem to have gone through exactly the same experience
[14:32] Speaker 2: in the last week because I literally shared a post
[14:35] Speaker 2: on Instagram yesterday or day before because I woke up
[14:38] Speaker 2: with so much anxiety and I get that sometimes before
[14:41] Speaker 2: my period, it was like this overwhelming anxiety of loss.
[14:44] Speaker 2: And I spoke about it, saying that I woke up
[14:46] Speaker 2: and I was just feeling this like this unsothing feeling
[14:51] Speaker 2: of loss that I was thinking about my family and
[14:54] Speaker 2: then I was thinking about here, and there was just
[14:55] Speaker 2: so much going through my mind. And I sat before
[14:58] Speaker 2: my meditation and I literally said exactly the same way
[15:01] Speaker 2: as I said, I just surrender my fear and my
[15:03] Speaker 2: anxiety to you, like I'm surrendering it. I'm giving it
[15:06] Speaker 2: to you because I can't control this. That's everything that
[15:09] Speaker 2: I'm fearful of right now is nothing I can control,
[15:11] Speaker 2: and so I give it to you, Universe, to God.
[15:14] Speaker 2: I give it away because I can no longer hold
[15:17] Speaker 2: it in me. I don't have space for it. And
[15:20] Speaker 2: so but I do think it's interesting how I think
[15:22] Speaker 2: when there's collective anxiety and collective fear around you, energy
[15:27] Speaker 2: is so exchangeable, Like people around us are feeling that
[15:31] Speaker 2: and everybody in you know, everyone's a little bit uneasy
[15:34] Speaker 2: right now in LA. We don't realize that there's collective
[15:36] Speaker 2: energy that everybody ends up actually feeling and taking from
[15:39] Speaker 2: one another.
[15:40] Speaker 3: But it's just interesting that we both had that.
[15:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, really almost same thing. I think the woman's woman's
[15:45] Speaker 1: body is meant to pick up on the subtle cues
[15:50] Speaker 1: collectively what's going on, and I think part of the
[15:53] Speaker 1: challenge that we have is that we haven't been trained
[15:56] Speaker 1: how to read those clues and understand them. And again,
[16:01] Speaker 1: I think a male's body is a lot more black
[16:04] Speaker 1: and white, but a woman's body is not that way.
[16:07] Speaker 1: And I hope people listening to this, like Honor that
[16:10] Speaker 1: when a symptom shows up, the best thing you can
[16:13] Speaker 1: do is ask that symptom what do you want how
[16:16] Speaker 1: can I listen to you as opposed to how do
[16:19] Speaker 1: I make you go?
[16:20] Speaker 3: Yes, I completely agree.
[16:22] Speaker 2: I wanted to ask a few more questions about fasting
[16:24] Speaker 2: because I think when people hear fasting, immediately their body says,
[16:28] Speaker 2: oh God, like I don't think I you know, the
[16:30] Speaker 2: fear of scarcity, the fear of not having your comforts
[16:33] Speaker 2: in the normality that you are used to, is quite scary,
[16:36] Speaker 2: and so I guess my first question is when do
[16:39] Speaker 2: you think is a good time for people to fast?
[16:41] Speaker 2: What the signs and symptoms in someone's body that they
[16:43] Speaker 2: should be thinking about how doing a fast?
[16:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me go to this place first that
[16:48] Speaker 1: if people haven't heard this, this one blows their mind.
[16:51] Speaker 1: We have two metabolisms. We don't just have one. We
[16:55] Speaker 1: have one that gets ignited when we eat food. It's
[16:58] Speaker 1: called I call it the sugar burner metabolism. And then
[17:01] Speaker 1: the other one gets ignited when we don't eat food,
[17:04] Speaker 1: and it's called the fat burner metabolism. So we are
[17:07] Speaker 1: like a hybrid car. We work off a glucose and
[17:10] Speaker 1: we work off of key tones, and we're meant to
[17:12] Speaker 1: metabolically switch in and out of these two different metabolisms.
[17:18] Speaker 1: So I'll tell you sort of the basic premise, and
[17:20] Speaker 1: then we can talk about why, how it maps to
[17:23] Speaker 1: a woman's cycle, or even how it maps to a
[17:25] Speaker 1: menopausal cycle. So we have to understand that every sell
[17:31] Speaker 1: in our body, and including the neurons in our brain,
[17:34] Speaker 1: need glucose and they need keytnes. So when you ask
[17:38] Speaker 1: when should you fast, well, the question really is when
[17:42] Speaker 1: do you need key tones? So keytnes are there to
[17:46] Speaker 1: fire up your brain so that whenever you need mental clarity,
[17:49] Speaker 1: whenever you need calm. So check this out. When keytnes
[17:53] Speaker 1: go up, gabba goes up, so you actually calm. So
[17:57] Speaker 1: people always think the longer I go out without food,
[17:59] Speaker 1: all be in bad shape. Actually the opposite. The more
[18:02] Speaker 1: you train your body to do this, the more you'll
[18:05] Speaker 1: see that actually there's a sense of inner knowing. Like
[18:08] Speaker 1: give me example, I haven't eaten today because I knew
[18:11] Speaker 1: I was coming down here. I didn't know what it
[18:13] Speaker 1: was going to be like to be back in LA
[18:15] Speaker 1: and I purposely didn't have breakfast because I'm like, I
[18:18] Speaker 1: need the key tone calm. So I was like, I
[18:21] Speaker 1: can do it. I'll eat dinner tonight. But that's an
[18:25] Speaker 1: example of how I used fasting for my mental and
[18:28] Speaker 1: spiritual benefits.
[18:30] Speaker 2: Which is also so interesting because for I mean thousands
[18:33] Speaker 2: and thousands of years, monks have fasted for days and
[18:37] Speaker 2: days and days when they want to go into deep meditation.
[18:41] Speaker 1: So we do two times a year we do a
[18:43] Speaker 1: three day water fast worldwide. So we did one the
[18:46] Speaker 1: week of the fires. We had one hundred thousand people
[18:49] Speaker 1: worldwide that we're doing a three day water fly.
[18:51] Speaker 3: Oh and the most amazing the.
[18:53] Speaker 5: Morning of the fire, I was supposed to lead these
[18:56] Speaker 5: people through webinar, and I literally in my head, I
[18:59] Speaker 5: was like, I just need to get to a parking
[19:01] Speaker 5: lot so I can pull my phone out and give
[19:03] Speaker 5: the webinar.
[19:04] Speaker 1: But that, you know, the universe had a different pan
[19:06] Speaker 1: for me. But why I love doing that is there's
[19:10] Speaker 1: incredible spiritual insight because when you're not processing food, when
[19:16] Speaker 1: you're not putting all the energy to digesting food, you
[19:19] Speaker 1: become an open channel. The mind comes, the insights come in.
[19:24] Speaker 1: So the longer you go, it's those longer fasts you
[19:27] Speaker 1: really start to get some inner knowing that you would think,
[19:32] Speaker 1: oh my god, three days without food, I'd be dying.
[19:34] Speaker 1: I'd be you know it would be horrible, but actually
[19:37] Speaker 1: it's not. You enter a whole nother level of understanding
[19:41] Speaker 1: that you can't get when you're in the fed state.
[19:43] Speaker 2: Wow, I had no idea that the connection makes so
[19:46] Speaker 2: much sense.
[19:47] Speaker 3: Now.
[19:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a lot of fast in our culture,
[19:49] Speaker 2: and as part of our spiritual practices, we do like
[19:52] Speaker 2: grain free fasts, so we'll do full one day, like
[19:54] Speaker 2: twenty four hour water fast. But yeah, when you spoke
[19:57] Speaker 2: about it like that, it makes complete sense.
[19:59] Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's why, like in Fast Like a Girl,
[20:01] Speaker 1: I put out six different level fasts, right, and I
[20:04] Speaker 1: was based they're all based off time, And what I
[20:07] Speaker 1: wanted to do with that is really allow people to choose. So, like,
[20:11] Speaker 1: if you just want to bring down some inflammation, you
[20:13] Speaker 1: want to get a little key tones, you want to
[20:15] Speaker 1: kind of just have a good little buzz, then you
[20:17] Speaker 1: can intermit in fast for fifteen hours, you're good.
[20:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[20:20] Speaker 1: If you want to repair your gut, then go a
[20:22] Speaker 1: little longer, get twenty four hours, you're gonna get some
[20:25] Speaker 1: gut repair. If you want to go thirty six, then
[20:28] Speaker 1: you're gonna burn a little more fat. If you want
[20:31] Speaker 1: to like get yourself a new dopamine system and like
[20:34] Speaker 1: reboot it, then go forty eight hours, and if you
[20:36] Speaker 1: want to reset your whole system, then do seventy two.
[20:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[20:40] Speaker 2: And my question to that is a lot of women
[20:42] Speaker 2: that I know had gone through yo yo dieting throughout
[20:45] Speaker 2: their life and that actually, from my understanding, really messed
[20:49] Speaker 2: up their metabolism. And so when you end up doing
[20:52] Speaker 2: these fast how does that compare to this idea of
[20:55] Speaker 2: starving your body for short pairs of time and then
[20:57] Speaker 2: going back to food and then you know that actually
[21:01] Speaker 2: messing up your metabolism to this, how does this affect
[21:04] Speaker 2: the metabolism?
[21:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good question. So when I look
[21:08] Speaker 1: at the fasting lifestyle, I look at it in a
[21:11] Speaker 1: twenty four hour period. I look at it every day.
[21:13] Speaker 1: I have a window in which I fast, and I
[21:15] Speaker 1: look at I have a window in which I eat.
[21:17] Speaker 1: So today I'm in my fasting window. But then when
[21:20] Speaker 1: I land in my hotel tonight, I will open up
[21:23] Speaker 1: my eating window. When you open your eating window up, eat.
[21:27] Speaker 1: This is not calorie restriction. This isn't even carb restriction.
[21:32] Speaker 1: You can go and get keytones without restricting carbs this way,
[21:36] Speaker 1: but you have to start looking at food as medicine
[21:39] Speaker 1: and seeing that you want to eat good, nourishing food,
[21:42] Speaker 1: and then you want to look at these as fasting
[21:45] Speaker 1: windows you're tacking onto your day. Now, let's juxtapose that
[21:49] Speaker 1: to the woman who's like has maybe and everybody's eating
[21:52] Speaker 1: disorder behavior will look different. But a lot of women
[21:56] Speaker 1: will get up, they'll have a little bit of breakfast,
[21:59] Speaker 1: and then they won't eat all day long, and then
[22:01] Speaker 1: maybe they'll have a snack at three and then maybe
[22:03] Speaker 1: they'll eat something at you know, a little something at
[22:06] Speaker 1: seven o'clock at night. Well, they're not fasting. That's not fasting,
[22:12] Speaker 1: that's disordered eating. That's restricting calories in a different way.
[22:17] Speaker 1: So I like to look at it as windows. So
[22:20] Speaker 1: and every morning I wake up, I'm like, when am
[22:22] Speaker 1: I going to eat? When am I going to open
[22:24] Speaker 1: up that eating window? And then every time I open
[22:27] Speaker 1: up the eating window, I go, Okay, what does my
[22:29] Speaker 1: body need? So I'm like, if I need more? Have
[22:32] Speaker 1: I eaten enough greens? Okay? Maybe I need to eat
[22:34] Speaker 1: more greens. Have I had enough protein? Maybe I need
[22:36] Speaker 1: to eat more protein. So I start looking at food
[22:39] Speaker 1: as medicine and fasting as tapping into an internal healing
[22:44] Speaker 1: experience that my body can only do in the absence of.
[22:47] Speaker 3: Food and with intermittent fasting. So I intimate and fast.
[22:50] Speaker 2: I you know, usually stop eating by six o'clock and
[22:53] Speaker 2: then I eat again, maybe at like ten or eleven.
[22:55] Speaker 3: Am perfect.
[22:56] Speaker 2: But is that something you can do throughout your menstro
[22:59] Speaker 2: cycle or should it? Should you not be doing it?
[23:01] Speaker 2: You know, the week before your period?
[23:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, the week before is the outlier. Your system works
[23:06] Speaker 1: great for every week except the week before. Okay, so
[23:10] Speaker 1: you should be eating something when you first get up,
[23:13] Speaker 1: and specifically carbs, but I call them nature's carbs. I
[23:17] Speaker 1: have not found too many reasons for us to be
[23:20] Speaker 1: doing refined flowers and sugars unless it's like a fermented
[23:24] Speaker 1: sour dough or something like that.
[23:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
[23:27] Speaker 2: I last week, I remember I was saying, I don't
[23:29] Speaker 2: know why I'm so hungry.
[23:30] Speaker 3: At the moment.
[23:30] Speaker 2: And you know what, no matter whether you track your
[23:32] Speaker 2: period or not, for some reason, for my whole team,
[23:34] Speaker 2: who are women, they're like, it was just such a
[23:35] Speaker 2: surprise when my period. Okay, you know you always end
[23:38] Speaker 2: up getting surprised, But for me, I was like, I
[23:40] Speaker 2: don't know why I'm so hungry this week or these
[23:42] Speaker 2: couple of days, and then my period comes out. Oh,
[23:45] Speaker 2: that's why I was hungry.
[23:47] Speaker 1: So there's a beautiful moment where you can be like,
[23:49] Speaker 1: why am I so hungry?
[23:50] Speaker 5: Ok?
[23:50] Speaker 1: Okay, progest round? What do you need from me today?
[23:53] Speaker 3: Yes?
[23:54] Speaker 1: And so then you can tap in and like just
[23:57] Speaker 1: start asking your body what it needs during that time.
[24:00] Speaker 1: We haven't been taught that right, and we're like taught like,
[24:04] Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so hungry today, I must be undisciplined,
[24:08] Speaker 1: and that's what I'm trying to free women from.
[24:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree.
[24:12] Speaker 2: Has I been anything surprising after all the years of
[24:15] Speaker 2: seeing different patients and seeing women go through this, what's
[24:18] Speaker 2: been one of the most surprising things that you found
[24:20] Speaker 2: out through the resets you've done?
[24:22] Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, Well for starters fertility, Yes, the
[24:27] Speaker 1: fasting cycle that I did in Fast Like a Girl.
[24:31] Speaker 1: I had taken five of my employees who were struggling
[24:33] Speaker 1: to get pregnant through that fasting cycle.
[24:36] Speaker 3: Which one is it in your book?
[24:37] Speaker 1: It's in my book and Fast Like a Girl. And
[24:39] Speaker 1: then I carried it over and Eat like a Girl.
[24:41] Speaker 1: They're kind of companion manuals. One's the fasting window, one's
[24:44] Speaker 1: the eating window. And so I had this cycle where
[24:47] Speaker 1: you go high carb, low carb, long fast, short fast,
[24:51] Speaker 1: and so I experimented with these five women and I said,
[24:54] Speaker 1: let's get that ninety days of this. All of them
[24:57] Speaker 1: within thirty days got pregnant. No, And so then when
[25:00] Speaker 1: Fasaga Girl went out, I was like, Okay, what's the
[25:03] Speaker 1: what's going to happen? And so all the amount of
[25:07] Speaker 1: people that sent me messages saying that they got pregnant
[25:13] Speaker 1: shocked me.
[25:13] Speaker 3: Oh, I have to share that with a few of
[25:14] Speaker 3: my friends.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Actually, So that was one the number of postmenopausal women
[25:20] Speaker 1: that got a period after ten years of not having
[25:23] Speaker 1: a period. No, that shocked me. That was a crazy
[25:27] Speaker 1: shod shot. I would say. People losing like ridiculous amounts
[25:34] Speaker 1: of weight, Like I wish there was a way I
[25:37] Speaker 1: could go to my YouTube channel and maybe with AI
[25:39] Speaker 1: someday I'll be able to do this and extract the
[25:41] Speaker 1: amount of weight people have lost, but hundreds of pounds
[25:45] Speaker 1: when people tried everything else and nothing worked.
[25:48] Speaker 3: Those are great ones.
[25:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so weight loss, fertility, and menopause. Yeah, what
[25:54] Speaker 2: is the difference between men fasting and women fasting. Then
[25:56] Speaker 2: how does that differ. Would a man be able to
[25:58] Speaker 2: follow the same protocol that you've got there and get
[26:00] Speaker 2: similar results?
[26:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, he could, but you know he doesn't. Really The
[26:05] Speaker 1: fasting cycles a little more sophisticated because we have three
[26:10] Speaker 1: sex hormones that we run off of. They don't have progesterone,
[26:15] Speaker 1: so men don't have progesterone. So we've already talked about
[26:18] Speaker 1: how she's an outline. Yes, but men work off a
[26:20] Speaker 1: twenty four hour hormonal cycle, so every fifteen minutes they
[26:24] Speaker 1: get a little pulse of testosterone and testosterone goes up
[26:28] Speaker 1: into the brain and converts to estrogen. For men, testosterone
[26:31] Speaker 1: doesn't really mind if you fast, and so it seems
[26:35] Speaker 1: to be that they just need to make sure they
[26:37] Speaker 1: don't fast all the time. And it's really every man's
[26:41] Speaker 1: a little different, but we are or way more sophisticated.
[26:47] Speaker 4: The example I use, and the women love it and
[26:50] Speaker 4: the men don't, is that a woman's body is like
[26:53] Speaker 4: a sophisticated violin, and a man's body is like a kazoo.
[27:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's give it a recorder. I used to say,
[27:02] Speaker 1: a ukulele. It's just you can play it. It's very simple,
[27:06] Speaker 1: it's late to hear. It does its job. But a
[27:10] Speaker 1: woman's body is like, it's we're so intricate. And this
[27:14] Speaker 1: is why we're at this weird evolutionary mismatch right now,
[27:19] Speaker 1: because the modern world is throwing so much physical, emotional
[27:24] Speaker 1: chemical stress at us that our hormones are like what
[27:27] Speaker 1: WHOA We don't know how to respond to what's coming
[27:32] Speaker 1: at us. A male's body has one priority, and that's survival,
[27:37] Speaker 1: so the body will work off, always tilting towards survival.
[27:41] Speaker 1: A woman's body has two priorities, survival and reproduction. So
[27:46] Speaker 1: whatever environment you put yourself in, if you are in
[27:50] Speaker 1: a you know, running from fires and cortisol's going up,
[27:54] Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your reproductive system goes down. Whereas
[27:58] Speaker 1: a man that doesn't happen as much, his hormonal system's
[28:01] Speaker 1: not going to go off because stress goes up. If
[28:05] Speaker 1: a man eats, you know, the wrong foods, eats too
[28:08] Speaker 1: many carbs, not going to be a problem unless it's
[28:10] Speaker 1: like a really you know, bad ultra refined processed food carb.
[28:16] Speaker 1: A woman's body, she eats too many carbs over and
[28:19] Speaker 1: over and over again, she that might be a problem.
[28:22] Speaker 1: If she's too diety, that might be a problem. What
[28:25] Speaker 1: we need to all think, regardless of what age we're at,
[28:29] Speaker 1: is we need to think when I'm moving through my day,
[28:32] Speaker 1: am I in environments where my body feels safe? And
[28:36] Speaker 1: if it feels safe and nourished, then your reproductive system
[28:40] Speaker 1: will work.
[28:41] Speaker 2: What do you think some of the main causes of
[28:43] Speaker 2: you know, the number of women that are having, like
[28:45] Speaker 2: you said, hormonal issues disorders because of that polycystic overy syndrome,
[28:50] Speaker 2: thyroid issues. You know from what you've seen, What do
[28:54] Speaker 2: you think of some of the main reasons that women
[28:57] Speaker 2: are going through these these hormonal discs is so.
[29:00] Speaker 5: I can give you the philosophical reason that I can
[29:03] Speaker 5: give you the Okay, So.
[29:05] Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the philosophical one, because this is
[29:07] Speaker 1: really the tenets of the book I'm writing right now.
[29:10] Speaker 1: We live in a patriarchal society. To me, what the
[29:12] Speaker 1: patriarch means power over that we have structures in place
[29:16] Speaker 1: that say you are worthy as a woman if you
[29:20] Speaker 1: look a certain way, if you weigh a certain thing,
[29:22] Speaker 1: if your face is smooth and beautiful, and so we
[29:26] Speaker 1: are living in a world that's telling women what we
[29:30] Speaker 1: should look like what we should.
[29:31] Speaker 3: Be doing dictated.
[29:33] Speaker 1: Yes, that is making us feel unsafe, and the minute
[29:38] Speaker 1: we feel unsafe, our reproductive system shuts down. In my
[29:42] Speaker 1: new book that will come out at the end of
[29:44] Speaker 1: this year, I'm really quoting a feminist philosopher named Carol Gilligan,
[29:49] Speaker 1: and she in the nineteen eighties looked at teenage girls
[29:53] Speaker 1: that was me in the nineteen eighties, and found that
[29:56] Speaker 1: the patriarchal society taught girls and I think they still
[30:00] Speaker 1: we still teach girls this, that you are a good
[30:03] Speaker 1: girl if you are selfless. Yes, So as women, what
[30:08] Speaker 1: do we do? We wrap ourselves up in all kinds
[30:10] Speaker 1: of ways to like, be like, am I worthy?
[30:13] Speaker 5: Now?
[30:14] Speaker 1: If I look a certain way, we love me. If
[30:17] Speaker 1: I act a certain way, we love me. If I'm
[30:19] Speaker 1: successful enough, we love me. So many women are walking
[30:25] Speaker 1: around like that, and that is destroying us hormonally, and
[30:29] Speaker 1: so we can't get pregnant, we can't lose weight. We
[30:31] Speaker 1: have an insane amount of menopausal symptoms because we are
[30:36] Speaker 1: trying to wrap ourselves up to be acceptable to a
[30:40] Speaker 1: patriarchal society that says you need to look like Barbie right, Like,
[30:44] Speaker 1: there's only one way to act one way to be
[30:47] Speaker 1: so from a philosophical lens, I feel like it's really
[30:51] Speaker 1: the culture. And why I'm so adamant about this is
[30:54] Speaker 1: it takes conversations like this for us individually to break
[30:59] Speaker 1: out of that and say, like, I mean, I'm the fires.
[31:02] Speaker 1: I'll keep using it because it's what I've been through.
[31:06] Speaker 1: About four days after the fire, as I was running
[31:09] Speaker 1: from the fire, people kept sending me texts and they're like,
[31:12] Speaker 1: are you okay? Are you okay? Finally, on that Friday,
[31:15] Speaker 1: which the fires happened on Tuesday. On Friday, I was like,
[31:19] Speaker 1: peace out, I am not okay. So I just started
[31:23] Speaker 1: saying I'm not okay. You know how liberating it was
[31:27] Speaker 1: to say it wasn't okay, Like I don't have to
[31:30] Speaker 1: pretend for you all now that I'm okay. I'm just
[31:32] Speaker 1: gonna let you know I'm not okay. And then I
[31:34] Speaker 1: started having so many women messaging me and they're like,
[31:39] Speaker 1: I wasn't in a fire evacuation, but I'm not okay,
[31:42] Speaker 1: and thank you for saying you're not okay, because I
[31:45] Speaker 1: haven't been okay for a really long time. We don't
[31:48] Speaker 1: have a culture well where women can just say I
[31:51] Speaker 1: don't want to play that patriarchal game anymore. I'm really suffering.
[31:55] Speaker 1: I need to nurture myself. I need to find myself.
[31:57] Speaker 1: I want to have my own authentic voice here. Once
[32:00] Speaker 1: we do that, hormones will start to balance better.
[32:03] Speaker 2: It's so interesting that you said, you know, when you
[32:05] Speaker 2: said unsafe, I was thinking, we think about that in
[32:08] Speaker 2: our environment, We think about that in our relationships. You
[32:11] Speaker 2: can say this person makes me feel safe, this house
[32:15] Speaker 2: makes me feel safe, walking down this street makes me
[32:17] Speaker 2: feel safe. But I don't know whether we ever really
[32:20] Speaker 2: sit there and think is this making my internal system
[32:24] Speaker 2: feel safe? Like is my digestive system feeling safe?
[32:28] Speaker 3: Is you know?
[32:28] Speaker 2: And I think you have this nervous system that you
[32:31] Speaker 2: sometimes listen to, maybe sometimes you don't, but you don't
[32:34] Speaker 2: think of food and what you're eating and those things
[32:38] Speaker 2: to think. You don't think about safety in that nature
[32:40] Speaker 2: that sense, like oh, when I don't eat, it's actually
[32:42] Speaker 2: making my body feel unsafe. Or when I do eat this,
[32:45] Speaker 2: it's actually making my body feel unsafe.
[32:47] Speaker 1: Right, So safety you have to be in a state
[32:50] Speaker 1: of safety for your reproductive system, because otherwise the female
[32:55] Speaker 1: body is like, we're not making a baby. Yes, why
[32:58] Speaker 1: would we make a baby right now? We're not even
[33:00] Speaker 1: feeling safe. So you bring up such a good point.
[33:03] Speaker 1: You could walk into your grocery store, grab a bag
[33:06] Speaker 1: of Doritos and a coke, and you have just sent
[33:10] Speaker 1: a signal to your body that you're not safe, that
[33:13] Speaker 1: you're not safe.
[33:14] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Like, do we look at food like that?
[33:17] Speaker 2: No, but what an incredible way to change your mindset
[33:20] Speaker 2: and thinking like that. And when you paired it with
[33:23] Speaker 2: you know, fertility, it makes so much sense. Your body's
[33:25] Speaker 2: constantly sending signals through every single thing that you allow
[33:29] Speaker 2: through your senses. That's right, whether you are safe or
[33:31] Speaker 2: not saying.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, So your home environment, the people you hang out with,
[33:36] Speaker 1: like this is why you know, it's interesting. We've had
[33:38] Speaker 1: some chats about social media, but like on social media,
[33:42] Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about this, but it's
[33:44] Speaker 1: a little bit of a double edged sword. I'm like,
[33:47] Speaker 1: what you see on social media is authentically me. I
[33:50] Speaker 1: don't put filters on. I'm like, this is a fifty
[33:53] Speaker 1: five year old woman. Because what is happening to especially
[33:57] Speaker 1: our teenagers, is we go to Instagram and we're like,
[34:00] Speaker 1: I can't be that person. And now you just picked
[34:03] Speaker 1: up your phone and you feel unsafe.
[34:05] Speaker 3: You do you really do necessity?
[34:08] Speaker 2: I think I don't think there's many people that can
[34:11] Speaker 2: say they've scrolled through social media for fifteen minutes and
[34:14] Speaker 2: that they feel safe from that whole interaction.
[34:17] Speaker 1: Ooh, that's so well seved.
[34:18] Speaker 2: Yeah really, I don't think so. I mean, I can
[34:20] Speaker 2: speak for myself. It's whether it's you know, it's funny
[34:23] Speaker 2: because I'm turning thirty five this year and I'm like, yeah,
[34:26] Speaker 2: you notice your bodies start changing, and by the time
[34:30] Speaker 2: you hit your thirties, you start thinking that you are
[34:32] Speaker 2: aging because of how social media creates that feeling. And
[34:38] Speaker 2: not that I think that's the bad thing. I feel
[34:39] Speaker 2: the same way as you am, really like embracing every
[34:41] Speaker 2: single year and trying to live that way. But I
[34:44] Speaker 2: think that that narrative starts from twenties.
[34:47] Speaker 3: Now. It's like from twenty you're thinking about the eighteen
[34:50] Speaker 3: year old.
[34:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's a question that I can't find an
[34:54] Speaker 1: answer to. Okay, yeah, and so I've been like asking
[34:56] Speaker 1: people and trying to figure it out. Is in women,
[35:00] Speaker 1: what does wisdom look like? How do you know you're
[35:04] Speaker 1: sitting with a wise woman.
[35:06] Speaker 3: How do you know you're sitting with a wise woman
[35:08] Speaker 3: and just.
[35:09] Speaker 1: On looks, just on looks, she's not talking, she's not talking. Oh,
[35:13] Speaker 1: you just know you're with a wise woman.
[35:15] Speaker 2: But I think about my grandma who's like ninety two
[35:18] Speaker 2: years old, and just by looking at her, not including
[35:23] Speaker 2: like energy, right, just by looking at them. Yeah, I
[35:25] Speaker 2: guess it is honestly, by like the incredible lines on
[35:28] Speaker 2: her face, by the beautiful head of gray hair that
[35:32] Speaker 2: she has that she owns. Yeah, And I think there's
[35:35] Speaker 2: like a gentleness to that too.
[35:37] Speaker 1: There's a safety, there's a peacefulness. They've been through a.
[35:40] Speaker 3: Lot, she's been through a lot, yes, so she has an.
[35:42] Speaker 1: Inner knowing that you can feel just when you're with Definitely. Okay,
[35:45] Speaker 1: So let's think about that for a moment. If everybody
[35:49] Speaker 1: freezes their face, how will we find the wisdom keepers?
[35:53] Speaker 1: If everybody dyes their hair? Where we we know people
[35:58] Speaker 1: by their wisdom strands? I callbrate here. I love that with, like,
[36:02] Speaker 1: how can we find the wise female elders if everybody
[36:06] Speaker 1: is freezing their face?
[36:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true, and you're just constantly hiding from it,
[36:11] Speaker 2: and then at some point you can't you know, Yeah,
[36:13] Speaker 2: there's a point where you just can't stop hiding from
[36:15] Speaker 2: it because it's age is just that you know, in
[36:17] Speaker 2: our scriptures it says there's only four things that are
[36:21] Speaker 2: certain death, birth, old, age, death, and disease. Like they're
[36:25] Speaker 2: the only four things that are actually certain in this life,
[36:28] Speaker 2: and so you have to start coming to terms with
[36:31] Speaker 2: all of them, like they are all part and parcel
[36:33] Speaker 2: of night, not life, not something that you're supposed to
[36:35] Speaker 2: be running away from, right, right, They're meant to be
[36:38] Speaker 2: things that you embrace.
[36:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[36:40] Speaker 1: I hit me one day, like we have this anti
[36:42] Speaker 1: aging culture, and I was like, it doesn't feel like
[36:45] Speaker 1: we should be anti aging. We should be pro aging.
[36:48] Speaker 1: We're all aging. And then I was looking through my
[36:51] Speaker 1: Instagram and I was thinking about like what sometimes those
[36:53] Speaker 1: Aboriginal women will come through and.
[36:56] Speaker 2: A beautiful so beautiful and right, and you really feel
[37:00] Speaker 2: something when you look at them, Like if you take.
[37:03] Speaker 1: Like an Aboriginal woman with like so many wrinkles, and
[37:07] Speaker 1: I look at that and I'm like, I wish those
[37:08] Speaker 1: wrinkles could speak. I wish that what would they say
[37:11] Speaker 1: compared to a woman who has a completely frozen face.
[37:14] Speaker 1: I would like, I don't know what you have to offer.
[37:17] Speaker 3: Me because they're expression lines.
[37:19] Speaker 2: I remember reading somewhere It's like, every single line represents
[37:22] Speaker 2: the laughs that you've had, the experiences that you've been through,
[37:25] Speaker 2: the conversations you've had with people, the shocks that you've had.
[37:30] Speaker 2: The surprise is like, that is what these lines are.
[37:33] Speaker 2: They're the lines of expression, that's right, the things that
[37:35] Speaker 2: you have felt showing up on your body, that's right.
[37:38] Speaker 3: I thought that was such a beautiful way of putting it.
[37:40] Speaker 1: I went through a phase in my late forties where
[37:43] Speaker 1: I was like wrestling with botox no boyah, And I
[37:46] Speaker 1: had people, you can know this as an influencer that
[37:49] Speaker 1: I had people literally messaging me DM and me and saying,
[37:52] Speaker 1: you should probably botox. I'm the same age as you,
[37:55] Speaker 1: and you have more wrinkles than me. And one day
[37:58] Speaker 1: I was sitting with my husband and I was like,
[38:00] Speaker 1: I just am wrestling with this because I don't want
[38:02] Speaker 1: to put toxins in me. And he looked at my
[38:06] Speaker 1: elevens up here and he said, you know what that
[38:09] Speaker 1: when I look at you and I see your elevens,
[38:11] Speaker 1: I know how deeply you have thought about issues.
[38:14] Speaker 3: Oh my god. I loved him he's wonderful.
[38:17] Speaker 1: I was like, thank you. I hadn't thought about that
[38:20] Speaker 1: if I made my elevens go away? And then how
[38:22] Speaker 1: would you know how deeply I'm thinking about things? And
[38:25] Speaker 1: so I think it comes down again to worthy, Like
[38:30] Speaker 1: we're taught that what is worthiness? And that might be
[38:33] Speaker 1: even another question to ask is like what does worthiness
[38:35] Speaker 1: look like for women?
[38:37] Speaker 3: And what does health look like?
[38:38] Speaker 1: Like?
[38:39] Speaker 2: You know, the same battle you've had, I've had at
[38:41] Speaker 2: my age, thinking of oh, should should I go into
[38:44] Speaker 2: certain treatments and do certain things? And I feel the
[38:47] Speaker 2: same way about you. I don't want to put those
[38:48] Speaker 2: things into my body, and I also want to learn
[38:51] Speaker 2: how to embrace who I am at every stage. But
[38:54] Speaker 2: I think this battle that people go through, it's like
[38:58] Speaker 2: you're also constantly tell yourself. The more you move away
[39:02] Speaker 2: from who you are, you're telling yourself you're not worthy.
[39:05] Speaker 2: That's like that every time you're trying to hide certain
[39:10] Speaker 2: things on your face. And I think about that even
[39:11] Speaker 2: when I got like a spot on my face or
[39:13] Speaker 2: I used to get cold soores, and I used to
[39:14] Speaker 2: constantly try and like hide myself from people when I
[39:18] Speaker 2: was going through those things. And with aging, it's like
[39:20] Speaker 2: if you're constantly hiding yourself, you are not accepting yourself,
[39:24] Speaker 2: and so it's a really difficult battle. And by the way,
[39:27] Speaker 2: this is not you know, this is not criticizing anybody
[39:31] Speaker 2: who's chosen to get anything like that done. But it's
[39:34] Speaker 2: more of like a reflection of am I trying to
[39:37] Speaker 2: hide away from myself? Because then you're also not coming
[39:40] Speaker 2: to terms with who you are, Like you are not
[39:42] Speaker 2: accepting yourself so beautiful, and so then as soon as
[39:44] Speaker 2: you don't accept yourself, it's really difficult to find people
[39:47] Speaker 2: who also accept you for your own value.
[39:49] Speaker 1: This is why I love conversations like this, because I
[39:52] Speaker 1: hadn't really thought about that. You know, eighty percent of
[39:54] Speaker 1: autoimmune conditions happen to women, wh and an autoimmune condition
[40:01] Speaker 1: is the body attacking itself. Oh my god, it's not
[40:05] Speaker 1: just a physical attack. It's not just a genetic thing.
[40:08] Speaker 1: But to you what you just said, if every day
[40:11] Speaker 1: I look in the mirror and I want to change
[40:14] Speaker 1: something or I criticize myself, I'm attacking myself.
[40:18] Speaker 3: With my own thoughts.
[40:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm literally looking at myself and I'm rejecting myself.
[40:21] Speaker 2: So imagine every day you look at your partner, and
[40:23] Speaker 2: they're rejecting you every single day, every time they saw you. Right, Yeah,
[40:28] Speaker 2: I've been really trying to change that narrative. Jay asked
[40:31] Speaker 2: me this morneing. He goes, have you been doing any
[40:32] Speaker 2: positive affirmations lately? He said, he's really been trying to
[40:35] Speaker 2: practice them in his mind. And I said, you know,
[40:37] Speaker 2: the only I wouldn't say I'm be doing positive affirmations,
[40:39] Speaker 2: but I've been doing a lot of correction. And so
[40:42] Speaker 2: whether that's looking in the mirror and I say something
[40:44] Speaker 2: that I isn't actually very nice, I will try and
[40:46] Speaker 2: correct it with something positive, like change the narrative in
[40:49] Speaker 2: my mind, which hopefully lead to positive affirmations. But sometimes
[40:52] Speaker 2: it's hard to have. If you've got a narrative that's
[40:55] Speaker 2: in your mind regularly, it's hard to automatically go to
[40:57] Speaker 2: something positive, and so to work my way towards that,
[41:00] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I think what I'm really trying right
[41:02] Speaker 2: now is correction. I see myself, I'm like, oh, the
[41:05] Speaker 2: first thing I noticed was this thing on my face.
[41:07] Speaker 2: But then I'm trying to correct it with what you're saying.
[41:09] Speaker 2: I'm like, it's expression, Like, it's expression, Yeah, it's this
[41:12] Speaker 2: it's that, and so the correction has really helped me
[41:16] Speaker 2: versus trying to just constantly, like positively affirm when I
[41:19] Speaker 2: don't necessarily feel as positive about it.
[41:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as I should.
[41:22] Speaker 1: When I was about your age, I started to like
[41:24] Speaker 1: think about how I look in the mirror very different.
[41:28] Speaker 1: And one thing I realized is that I every time
[41:30] Speaker 1: I would get dressed or wash my face or get
[41:33] Speaker 1: ready for bed, I would look in the mirror and
[41:35] Speaker 1: I would find the thing I didn't like. Yes, And
[41:37] Speaker 1: I was like, one day, I was like, what if
[41:39] Speaker 1: I find the thing I do like? Yeah, And so
[41:42] Speaker 1: I started training my brain to just go, Okay, I
[41:45] Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I like that. And it's
[41:47] Speaker 1: hard at first because you're like, I like that, but
[41:49] Speaker 1: I hate that.
[41:50] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like no, basface, but wait.
[41:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's okay. That's okay. You can hate something.
[41:56] Speaker 1: But if you train yourself over time to look in
[41:59] Speaker 1: the mirror and be like, oh I love that. Yeah,
[42:01] Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that, it really over time you'll
[42:05] Speaker 1: change the way you look.
[42:06] Speaker 3: At your fixation changes.
[42:08] Speaker 2: I wanted to ask one more question about fasting and
[42:10] Speaker 2: then move on to menopause, but I have a lot
[42:12] Speaker 2: of Muslim friends who fast the thirty days Ramadan, and
[42:15] Speaker 2: I guess one of my questions I want to ask
[42:17] Speaker 2: was they're always asking me as the nutrition is like
[42:19] Speaker 2: what are the best foods I should be eating when
[42:22] Speaker 2: I come off my fast because they're fast loss from
[42:24] Speaker 2: sunrise to sunset? And so what are some of the
[42:27] Speaker 2: foods that people who are doing this fast for Ramadan
[42:30] Speaker 2: that they should be eating when they break their fast?
[42:32] Speaker 1: So I always break break in a fast into three categories,
[42:35] Speaker 1: and one is are you trying to rebuild your microbiome?
[42:39] Speaker 1: So you have a really cool opportunity because when you're
[42:42] Speaker 1: not eating, all the bad ones start to die off
[42:44] Speaker 1: and the good ones are like feed me, feed me,
[42:47] Speaker 1: So more probiotic, fermented foods, more polyphenol foods like olives
[42:53] Speaker 1: and nuts and seeds and berries, and more prebiotic foods,
[42:57] Speaker 1: which is also nuts and seeds. I list a bunch
[42:59] Speaker 1: of women both books. But think about feeding your bacteria,
[43:03] Speaker 1: not your taste buds.
[43:04] Speaker 3: Yes, big difference, big difference.
[43:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't know if they eat meat,
[43:09] Speaker 1: but if they do meat, bone broth is incredible because
[43:12] Speaker 1: it has glycine in it and it starts to actually
[43:15] Speaker 1: repair the inner lining of the gut. You can do
[43:18] Speaker 1: mushroom broth, vegetable broth. Broths are really good to break
[43:21] Speaker 1: a fast with.
[43:21] Speaker 3: Too amazing.
[43:22] Speaker 2: And is it something which should they be aiming not
[43:25] Speaker 2: to eat too much during that period of time that
[43:27] Speaker 2: they're eating, or like you said, should they be getting
[43:30] Speaker 2: in as much as possible?
[43:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, get in as much as possible, Like nourish yourself.
[43:34] Speaker 1: Food is not bad. It's what we did to food
[43:36] Speaker 1: that made it bad. Yes, But if you go back
[43:38] Speaker 1: to nature's food and like look at things that haven't
[43:41] Speaker 1: been manipulated, things that don't have an ingredient label, those
[43:44] Speaker 1: are going to be the things that are going to
[43:46] Speaker 1: nourish you the most. So the microbiome is one. Muscle
[43:50] Speaker 1: is another one. That's a big thing that I hear
[43:52] Speaker 1: a lot of people say, Well, isn't fasting going to
[43:54] Speaker 1: break your muscle down? Yes, Well, in the moment of fasting,
[43:58] Speaker 1: it will. That's the purpose is to get get rid
[44:00] Speaker 1: of the garbage and the muscle that's not serving it.
[44:03] Speaker 1: So you want to add in a lot of protein.
[44:05] Speaker 1: So if you're plant based, then make sure you add
[44:08] Speaker 1: in your plant based proteins and if you're omnivore, add
[44:10] Speaker 1: in your animal meat. And then the third one is
[44:13] Speaker 1: really interesting because a lot of people boomerang. So a
[44:16] Speaker 1: lot of people do this thing where they're like, you know,
[44:18] Speaker 1: they start to eat and they're like, oh my god,
[44:20] Speaker 1: I'm just gonna eat everything, and even if it's ramadan
[44:23] Speaker 1: or not. So I always say, make sure it has
[44:27] Speaker 1: some fat in it.
[44:28] Speaker 3: Okay, So I.
[44:29] Speaker 1: Drizzle, like my first meal in, I drizzle tons of
[44:31] Speaker 1: olive oil on it so that my blood sugar doesn't
[44:35] Speaker 1: go up and then crash, and now I'm craving something.
[44:38] Speaker 2: Sweeting and then you don't feel good either. Okay, Yeah,
[44:41] Speaker 2: that's great advice, Thank you. I want to move on
[44:43] Speaker 2: to menopause. Yes, I guess my first question is I
[44:46] Speaker 2: think a lot of women, you know my age, are
[44:49] Speaker 2: starting to be more curious about it, wanting to learn
[44:51] Speaker 2: more about it. Can you tell us what menopause is?
[44:54] Speaker 2: And then also what's the average age are you finding
[44:56] Speaker 2: that women are going into menopause?
[44:58] Speaker 1: Yeah? So I love the way you ask this question
[45:01] Speaker 1: because I think that we have the conversation all wrong
[45:04] Speaker 1: right now around menopause. So, starting at thirty five, your
[45:09] Speaker 1: first hormone that's going to go down as progesterone. So
[45:12] Speaker 1: the challenge with that is you start to feel like
[45:14] Speaker 1: you did some anxiety. You're maybe a little more hungry
[45:18] Speaker 1: the week before your period. So it's sort of the
[45:21] Speaker 1: beginning of the whole experience. So this is why we
[45:25] Speaker 1: need to know how to cater to her. So that's
[45:28] Speaker 1: that's the first one. Then about forty your ovaries, if
[45:32] Speaker 1: they could speak, they're like, Hey, I'm gonna go into retirement.
[45:36] Speaker 1: I only have like a certain amount of eggs left.
[45:38] Speaker 1: It's gonna take me about ten years to like fully retire.
[45:43] Speaker 1: And in that time, I'm going to hand over the
[45:46] Speaker 1: job of making sex hormones to other organs. I'm gonna
[45:49] Speaker 1: hand it over to the adrenals. I'm gonna hand it
[45:52] Speaker 1: over to some peripheral tissues in your body, and slowly,
[45:55] Speaker 1: over time, I'm going to back away. This is when
[45:59] Speaker 1: estrogen's she's down, she's up, she's down. As somebody you
[46:03] Speaker 1: probably experienced this with curly hair. When I was going
[46:05] Speaker 1: through perry menopause. It would be like one day my
[46:08] Speaker 1: hair was fluffy and curly, the next day was stick straight.
[46:11] Speaker 3: That's me on an average day, going on humidity.
[46:13] Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, there I go. But I was like, oh
[46:16] Speaker 1: my gosh, Like one day your skin is moist, the
[46:18] Speaker 1: next day your skin is completely dry. So estra dial
[46:23] Speaker 1: the hormone that goes away, that version of estrogen that
[46:26] Speaker 1: goes away in menopause. She actually stimulates a whole bunch
[46:30] Speaker 1: of neurotransmitters. She stimulates dopamine and serotonin and acetocholine. She
[46:36] Speaker 1: brings collagen there. She makes you insulin sensitive. So if
[46:42] Speaker 1: she's like on this wild ride up and down, it's
[46:46] Speaker 1: your Your lifestyle has to change, right, And I think
[46:49] Speaker 1: that's kind of the biggest thing that we're missing in
[46:52] Speaker 1: the conversation is that thirty five is the moment you
[46:56] Speaker 1: need to think of your lifestyle different. Wow, you need
[46:59] Speaker 1: more rest and recovery the week before your period, and
[47:03] Speaker 1: you're going to need to become more glucose sensitive on
[47:06] Speaker 1: the beginning half of your cycle so that you can
[47:08] Speaker 1: make sure that estrogen isn't going too low or too high.
[47:12] Speaker 1: So there's what I'd love to see the culture talking
[47:15] Speaker 1: about is that there's a lifestyle change that happens in
[47:19] Speaker 1: this process. Because reproductively, that chapter is closing, and any
[47:26] Speaker 1: woman that wants to have a baby in the forties.
[47:27] Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't, but it is a closing
[47:31] Speaker 1: down of a moment that you've been in, which leads
[47:36] Speaker 1: me kind of to the other piece of menopause that
[47:38] Speaker 1: I'm really feeling. Sad. Isn't being talked to enough? Is
[47:42] Speaker 1: that women humans live forty two point five percent of
[47:47] Speaker 1: our life in post reproductively. We are the longest living species.
[47:53] Speaker 1: We live forty two percent of our life without a
[47:57] Speaker 1: reproductive system.
[47:59] Speaker 3: Okay, why Yeah.
[48:01] Speaker 1: So it's because this is a metamorphois. This is a
[48:05] Speaker 1: moment that we can transition into a different version of ourself.
[48:09] Speaker 1: I believe this is the moment we take our power back.
[48:12] Speaker 1: This is the moment we live life through our less
[48:15] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is the time we stop adapting to
[48:18] Speaker 1: a culture that has us adapting in all kinds of
[48:21] Speaker 1: weird ways, and we step into our own power and
[48:23] Speaker 1: we go, hey, I'm going to live life my way now.
[48:28] Speaker 1: And when you look at the statistics, they're not great
[48:31] Speaker 1: for that process. Like forty five to fifty five is
[48:35] Speaker 1: the most common time a woman will kill herself.
[48:37] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, no way.
[48:39] Speaker 1: So why is that? I believe it's because we are
[48:42] Speaker 1: coming into our own selves. We're coming into our own
[48:46] Speaker 1: version of ourself, and we may all of a sudden
[48:48] Speaker 1: realize that the life we created is one that isn't
[48:52] Speaker 1: congruent with the person we want to become. So and
[48:56] Speaker 1: statistics like after fifty sixty five of divorces are initiated
[49:01] Speaker 1: by women.
[49:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had about that.
[49:03] Speaker 1: Like, I think that's because women are changing. We change
[49:07] Speaker 1: through the menopausal process, and the marriages that survive are
[49:11] Speaker 1: the ones that understand that the spouse is turning into
[49:15] Speaker 1: a butterfly, right, She's going into a new version of herself.
[49:20] Speaker 1: This is my whole next book, because I think we've
[49:22] Speaker 1: made it to mechanical. I think menopause is a spiritual
[49:26] Speaker 1: journey and it's a returning back to yourself.
[49:28] Speaker 3: I agree.
[49:29] Speaker 2: You know, I saw my mom go through menopause and
[49:33] Speaker 2: she's now in her late sixties and she no, she's
[49:38] Speaker 2: tenning seventy. I think, yeah, and she is just come
[49:42] Speaker 2: into the best version of herself that I've ever been,
[49:45] Speaker 2: that I've ever seen exactly, And it was because, I mean,
[49:48] Speaker 2: my dad is incredible. He's so supportive, so loving, he
[49:50] Speaker 2: is just phenomenal. But I also think she gave herself
[49:54] Speaker 2: this second life, like she chose to not slow down,
[49:57] Speaker 2: not slow down in terms of like, you know, she's retired,
[50:01] Speaker 2: but she created a new life for herself by seven
[50:04] Speaker 2: community and so like this whole new version of herself
[50:08] Speaker 2: has come through and my dad helps her with it,
[50:10] Speaker 2: and it's just beautiful because you know, I think for
[50:14] Speaker 2: a lot of people, if they don't have community, you
[50:17] Speaker 2: end up feeling like after the age of sixty or seventy,
[50:20] Speaker 2: it's like, I guess I've gotten a purpose here?
[50:22] Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do here?
[50:23] Speaker 1: Right?
[50:24] Speaker 2: And I think that can really affect once your children leave,
[50:26] Speaker 2: you know, your children, and your children go off, they've
[50:28] Speaker 2: got their own life. Then it's just you know, you
[50:31] Speaker 2: and your husband and you and your partner, and you're like,
[50:33] Speaker 2: what do I do now? And so there's this whole
[50:36] Speaker 2: like crisis that comes that you go through. But when
[50:39] Speaker 2: you end up trying to find a new purpose, like
[50:41] Speaker 2: you're speaking about, whether it's spiritual, whether it's community based,
[50:45] Speaker 2: you end up feeling like, oh this life, like now
[50:48] Speaker 2: I have so much more meaning in my life and
[50:50] Speaker 2: there's something that is coming from this.
[50:52] Speaker 1: Have you heard of the grandmother hypothesis.
[50:55] Speaker 3: I think so, but tell me about it.
[50:56] Speaker 1: Okay. So this is part again part of my new book.
[50:58] Speaker 1: Is something that a lot of menopuzzle leaders have talked about.
[51:02] Speaker 1: But I think if we break it down a little
[51:04] Speaker 1: bit more, we can explain what happened to your mom.
[51:06] Speaker 1: So the grandmother hypothesis is a hypothesis that the reason
[51:11] Speaker 1: that we live so long in those peace post reproductive
[51:15] Speaker 1: time is because we're supposed to be leaders of the culture.
[51:19] Speaker 1: Right And if you go back to the evolutionary tribal
[51:23] Speaker 1: you know, cave man woman days, what happened was that
[51:27] Speaker 1: typically the man would go out and hunt. What's interesting
[51:31] Speaker 1: about that, And this is gonna sound really sexist, so
[51:34] Speaker 1: hang in here for people who were like, what so.
[51:37] Speaker 1: But he would go out and he would hunt, and
[51:39] Speaker 1: only three percent of the time he would come back
[51:41] Speaker 1: with a kill. Staying at home around the around the
[51:45] Speaker 1: in the clan was the fertile woman who was either
[51:48] Speaker 1: nursing babies, growing babies, or tending to babies. Right then,
[51:52] Speaker 1: we had a whole bunch of toddlers that needed to
[51:55] Speaker 1: be cared for. And because they only came back with
[51:57] Speaker 1: food three percent of the time, we need somebody go
[52:00] Speaker 1: find food. So when the idea is that the grandmother
[52:05] Speaker 1: was the one that actually went and found the food,
[52:09] Speaker 1: the grandmother was the one that took care of the clan.
[52:13] Speaker 1: So in the absence of a reproductive system, there is
[52:18] Speaker 1: an energy that is given back to women. And the
[52:21] Speaker 1: grandmother hypothesis says that we put it in three areas.
[52:25] Speaker 1: We can put it in fitness, which is totally blows
[52:28] Speaker 1: the whole idea that we should physically slow down, But
[52:32] Speaker 1: in the tribal days, they needed or in the cave
[52:34] Speaker 1: person day days, they needed to be able to go
[52:37] Speaker 1: and get food and walk long distances. Second thing they
[52:41] Speaker 1: used it for was cognition that extra energy and we
[52:45] Speaker 1: needed to go figure out They specifically pulled out tubers,
[52:49] Speaker 1: which are sweet potatoes sun chokes, so you had to
[52:52] Speaker 1: go be able to figure out where the tubers were.
[52:55] Speaker 1: And the third thing we used it for was social.
[52:58] Speaker 1: So in the grandmother high pothesis, what happens is women
[53:02] Speaker 1: start in their elder years, start rallying around each other.
[53:07] Speaker 3: This is your mom, my grandma as well.
[53:08] Speaker 2: My grandma started like a whole kind of grandma club
[53:13] Speaker 2: where her and her friends would get together do spiritual
[53:16] Speaker 2: prayers together, they'd sing together, they'd dance together. And my
[53:20] Speaker 2: mom also the that's so funny you said fitness, because
[53:22] Speaker 2: she has She used to be a fitness instructor when
[53:24] Speaker 2: I was really young. She hasn't done it for like
[53:26] Speaker 2: twenty years. Someone found out. I must have spoken about it.
[53:29] Speaker 2: The community found out that she used to do that.
[53:31] Speaker 2: They're like, do you want to start up some classes
[53:33] Speaker 2: for some of the community free of charge.
[53:34] Speaker 3: She was like, of course.
[53:36] Speaker 2: She spent like two three months practicing her routine and
[53:38] Speaker 2: now every week she's teaching fitness to like people my age.
[53:42] Speaker 3: She's doing fitness classes.
[53:43] Speaker 2: So she's in the fitness the community, and she's always
[53:47] Speaker 2: she's very intelligent anyway, so she puts it back into that.
[53:49] Speaker 2: But it's so beautiful because when you're saying that, I
[53:51] Speaker 2: can literally see that happening in my mom's life.
[53:54] Speaker 1: I think menopausea is an initiation. Yeah, It's an initiation
[53:59] Speaker 1: into the next version of you. And this is I
[54:02] Speaker 1: think why we're suffering is because we're not looking at
[54:04] Speaker 1: it that way. We're like, oh my god, I can't
[54:06] Speaker 1: think straight, i can't sleep, I've got hot flashes, I'm
[54:08] Speaker 1: gaining weight and we're too focused on that as opposed to, Wow,
[54:12] Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who I'm going to be
[54:14] Speaker 1: on the.
[54:14] Speaker 3: Other side of this, Yes, exactly.
[54:17] Speaker 1: Like what a difference menopause would be like At thirty five,
[54:19] Speaker 1: you could be.
[54:20] Speaker 4: Like, Oh my god, I'm so excited I'm going into menopause.
[54:24] Speaker 1: Because I can't wait for this transition into this new
[54:27] Speaker 1: version of myself that I've witnessed in my mother and
[54:30] Speaker 1: my grandmother.
[54:31] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they are pretty spectacular.
[54:33] Speaker 2: I have a question though, So for all the women
[54:36] Speaker 2: who are that four or thirty five still thinking about
[54:39] Speaker 2: having children, what's some advice that you would give in
[54:41] Speaker 2: terms of like to keep their fertility in the best
[54:45] Speaker 2: shape possible for the next couple of years while they're
[54:47] Speaker 2: trying to conceive.
[54:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great question. So I would say three things. One,
[54:52] Speaker 1: you'r arrhythmic human. You need to start eating and fasting
[54:56] Speaker 1: and doing supplements and exercising to your hormonal Some of.
[55:00] Speaker 3: The best supplements that you supplements you recommend.
[55:02] Speaker 1: From magnesium, I mean magnesium zinc are like requirements for
[55:07] Speaker 1: hormones minerals in general, we don't have enough, we don't
[55:10] Speaker 1: get enough of them, and so we really need more
[55:13] Speaker 1: minerals and to be brought into And.
[55:15] Speaker 2: Do you recommend sprays or taking tablet taking like supplements?
[55:21] Speaker 2: What do you know when the brand I love and
[55:24] Speaker 2: you know it's just the brand I lovemendation.
[55:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Beam Minerals. And the reason I love
[55:30] Speaker 1: it is it's fullvic and humic acid minerals that were
[55:33] Speaker 1: taken from the Earth. So what happens in that situation
[55:37] Speaker 1: is when you're taking a mineral as a complex, a
[55:40] Speaker 1: collective group of minerals from the Earth. The Earth didn't
[55:43] Speaker 1: make a mistake, right, the Earth figured out the ratios
[55:47] Speaker 1: that you need and it's a liquid. I take a
[55:50] Speaker 1: little shot of them every morning.
[55:51] Speaker 3: Amazing.
[55:52] Speaker 1: So I like it's kind of like food based minerals,
[55:55] Speaker 1: right because once we start to put it into a supplement,
[55:58] Speaker 1: I know now has manipulated it. Yes, And how do we.
[56:02] Speaker 3: Know it's right? We don't and we don't so that's possible.
[56:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Magnesium and zinc are like some of the
[56:11] Speaker 1: really important things cycling supplements. I would you know, go
[56:15] Speaker 1: check out the fasting cycle or just know that you
[56:18] Speaker 1: are rhythmic, so if you're eating the same thing all
[56:21] Speaker 1: every day of the month you're not necessarily in rhythm
[56:24] Speaker 1: with your hormone.
[56:26] Speaker 2: And you say cycling supplements, could you do you want
[56:28] Speaker 2: to explain that just the list bit for people who
[56:30] Speaker 2: don't know what that is.
[56:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, a supplement should be a supplement.
[56:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's not meant.
[56:35] Speaker 1: To be on it all the time. So you know,
[56:38] Speaker 1: there's a lot of companies out there now that are
[56:40] Speaker 1: doing hormone cycling supplements. You know, I could go through
[56:44] Speaker 1: the whole list, but it might be not import So,
[56:48] Speaker 1: but do you know when we're taking a supplement all
[56:50] Speaker 1: the time, it's really not.
[56:52] Speaker 3: It's almost like medicine.
[56:53] Speaker 2: You kind of have to see it as as you know,
[56:55] Speaker 2: when your body needs something, have it, and then you
[56:58] Speaker 2: may be full of it. You may have got everything
[57:00] Speaker 2: that you need and then you have to come off it.
[57:02] Speaker 2: Maybe you'll need something else at that point in your life.
[57:04] Speaker 2: And so you know, do you recommend getting a blood
[57:07] Speaker 2: test done regularly or like to know what your body
[57:10] Speaker 2: is deficient?
[57:11] Speaker 3: You know what it needs.
[57:12] Speaker 1: I think once a year is a really good plan.
[57:15] Speaker 1: I like that, and working with an integrative ob is
[57:18] Speaker 1: really helpful. Somebody who knows supplements and can read a blood,
[57:22] Speaker 1: blood work, and be able to tell you which supplements
[57:25] Speaker 1: is really important.
[57:26] Speaker 2: Okay, so magnesium you said, zinc, zinc, and obviously cycling
[57:30] Speaker 2: is supplements.
[57:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just knowing which supplements, I mean, you
[57:33] Speaker 1: need a lot more B vitamins at the front half
[57:35] Speaker 1: of the yeah, that in the back half, you know, magnesium, magnesium, magnesium, Okay, yeah,
[57:41] Speaker 1: like progesterone needs magnesium. So like if you start at
[57:44] Speaker 1: thirty five, you can't sleep very well. Try megadosine magnesium, right,
[57:48] Speaker 1: see how that works? Okay, So yeah, so rhythmic. And
[57:52] Speaker 1: then two other things I wanted you to point out.
[57:54] Speaker 1: Please let's go back to the safety conversation. You know,
[57:58] Speaker 1: make sure the environments you're putting yourself in feel safe
[58:02] Speaker 1: and that you're nurturing yourself and you're not you know, say,
[58:05] Speaker 1: unsafe might look like running marathons all the time. You
[58:10] Speaker 1: might need to run a marathon and then maybe do
[58:12] Speaker 1: chill out, do a yoga retreat, so it could look
[58:16] Speaker 1: like that. It could look like working too much.
[58:20] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so like.
[58:22] Speaker 1: Could look like you're just working your fanny off all
[58:25] Speaker 1: cycle long. So just you know, really do it. A
[58:28] Speaker 1: safety inventory I think is good. And then The last
[58:31] Speaker 1: one is a harder, hard one, but it's toxins. And
[58:35] Speaker 1: the reason toxins throw our whole cycle off is that
[58:38] Speaker 1: there are only two parts of the brain that don't
[58:41] Speaker 1: have a blood brain barrier, and the number one part
[58:44] Speaker 1: is your hypothalmus, which controls all hormones es so BPA, plastics,
[58:50] Speaker 1: heavy metals. I mean, I don't know if you guys
[58:53] Speaker 1: have talked about what's in the air in LA right now,
[58:56] Speaker 1: but it's definitely been an interesting conversation I've had with
[58:59] Speaker 1: other people. If you're in a moldy environment, those kind
[59:03] Speaker 1: of things can get in that hypothalmis and then they
[59:06] Speaker 1: start to change your hormonal cycle.
[59:08] Speaker 3: Right, that makes sense.
[59:09] Speaker 2: So is any things that people should be taking or
[59:12] Speaker 2: doing to prevent those toxins right now?
[59:14] Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think people should be detoxing every day.
[59:18] Speaker 1: And what that could look like is are you eating
[59:20] Speaker 1: enough leafy green vegetables like you got to? You know,
[59:24] Speaker 1: fiber is going to help feed those microbes that will
[59:27] Speaker 1: help to detox you. Are you prioritizing sleep? Yeah, at night,
[59:32] Speaker 1: our brain actually shrinks and our sribel spinal fluid goes
[59:36] Speaker 1: up and washes our brain and detoxes it every single night,
[59:40] Speaker 1: things like corilla and you know some of the deeper
[59:44] Speaker 1: green spirillina are you are you leaning into those? And
[59:48] Speaker 1: then we have big detoxes binders like activated charcoal and zeolites.
[59:54] Speaker 1: We're doing some really interesting things with next Health, which
[59:57] Speaker 1: I think you.
[59:57] Speaker 2: Guys have max stelf. I just had my blood done
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: waiting for the test results to.
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: Get back, so Darshan is, I'm actually tomorrow we'll go
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: for my third total plasma exchange, which is where they
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: take out sixty five percent of they take out your
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: blood and they filter sixty five percent exact. Yeah, so
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: we have some really cool new detoxes coming online as well.
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: I know you mentioned stress and you know the safety
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: aspect of it, but I guess the question that came
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: up in my mind was is some element of like
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: should we be trying to eliminate all stress in our
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: life or should we be trying to find well, I
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: guess there's twofold should be trying to cope with the
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: stresses or should be really as much as possible, like
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: whether it's work or all the things that you mentioned,
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: You know, is there an element of stress just being
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: part and parcel of our life. If you're able to
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: manage it, how do you know whether you're going from
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: a point of this is too much stress for my
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: body to handle.
[1:00:50] Speaker 3: Good Again, I'm thinking for myself.
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: I uah, well, okay, so for a cycling woman, just
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: really the time to just bring everything down, your work production,
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: your fitness production, like just nurture yourself, give yourself grace
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: to not work out if you don't feel like working out.
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: Is that week before Okay, So if.
[1:01:08] Speaker 3: All we did is don't push it.
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't push it, like slow it all down.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: Cut the workload that then put into your brain, like
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: cut it all in half. If you can that week before,
[1:01:20] Speaker 1: and then what will happen is once your cycle starts,
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: once your period starts, you'll actually be more productive. Yeah.
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: See, you're so right.
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: And I have to say this because I notice if
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: I have a really intense week that week, it throws
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: me off for the rest of the month. Yeah, like
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: I am struggling. I had this past week was quite
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: an intense week for me. And you know, I start
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: my careers a couple of days ago. But I would
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: say that usually at this point I'm feeling really energetic
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: and I am not. And it's because the few days
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: before I was coming out, I was like I was
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: really pushing myself. I'd had some late nights, I was
[1:01:53] Speaker 2: like waking up super early. I was working the whole
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: day and my mind was working my body. I was
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: pushing myself and my workout to ye And I've noticed
[1:02:01] Speaker 2: the cycle of when I do that, the week of
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: and the week after, I'm like struggling.
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: Instead of thriving.
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's that has become a sign for me
[1:02:10] Speaker 2: that perfect you need to listen and slow down in
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: that period, and when I do do that, I am thriving.
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: For the rest of the Monthfect I know, I'm like
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: my lesson, I just need to make sure I stick
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: to it.
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: So so you know, there's something called the Polyvagel theory
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: where our nervous system is supposed to go into fight
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: or flight and then rest or digest. But if we've
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: been in fighter flight for too long, we go into
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: a third nervous system called freeze. And in the freeze
[1:02:38] Speaker 1: nervous system, what ends up happening is we numb ourselves.
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: So we can numb ourselves with food, With social media,
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: we withdraw so all of a sudden we don't want
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: to be around people. Yeah, this is kind of this
[1:02:50] Speaker 1: can be our teenage world right now, or we become
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: really hyper sensitive to everything. So I'll use myself as
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: an example. After three evacuations and I actually lost a
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: really dear friend in October. So when I lost my neighborhood,
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: my home's still there, but I evacuated for two days NonStop.
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: And then I on the heels of losing a good friend,
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: I literally went to my staff and I'm writing another book,
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: and I'm like, I need a ninety day timeout. I
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: need to go somewhere in nature for ninety days to
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: reboot my nervous system because I can't do it on
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: its own. But we don't really you know how hard
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: it's been to fight for that. Yeah, we don't have
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: a culture that accepts.
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: That, because then you're like, oh, am, I just not
[1:03:39] Speaker 2: doing my day, or like not doing the work I'm
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: supposed to be doing. You know, but you've got if
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: you've got teams, you feel like you're letting the teams down.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: Like imagine a world where we were like, hey, it's
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: the week before my period. I'm just going to take
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: it a little bit easier I'll throw in, I'll work
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: six days seven days once my period starts. But for
[1:03:57] Speaker 1: right now, I'm going to nurture myself. I think two
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: things would happen women in general. Would you know, people
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: would be like, you're a loser, You're like, you know, like,
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: what are you doing.
[1:04:08] Speaker 3: Especially exaggerating, You're you're over.
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: Exaggerating, You're so emotional. So there would be that that
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: that judgment on us. But I think it would be
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: the internal judgment that would be the hardest.
[1:04:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing enough.
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: And if I'm not doing enough, then I'm not worthy enough.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: And if I'm not worthy enough, then I don't feel
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: good about myself. And then when the spiral.
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: Start, it's such a spiral. Yeah, you're so right.
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: So I feel like if people do have the opportunity
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: to just whatever you can take out of your diary
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: during that time, it's so worth it.
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: And give each other grace, Like conversations like this are
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: so important so that we all go, hey, I'm not
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: going to go to ladies' night out. It sounds it
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: sounds really fun.
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: But I can't do another late night right now today.
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: Or you know what to your to your staff to
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: be like Hey, I really am the create juices aren't flowing.
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: I'm feeling really exhausted. I'm going to take a few
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: extra days and then you know, once my cycle starts,
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: I'll put it into high gear again.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: The funny thing is what all women, and we've all
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: most of us have cycle sinks, so we're like, okay, cool,
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: we'll take this week off and I'll see you next week.
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: You know, there's all new models of work that are
[1:05:20] Speaker 1: showing up right now.
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: Really yeah, and a.
[1:05:23] Speaker 1: Lot of like the health world and the podcast world
[1:05:26] Speaker 1: is actually sort of bringing that forward. So I've heard
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: of one where they do, like a company will do
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: like a six week sprint where everybody's like full on
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: for six weeks and then they take a full week off.
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: So if you were all women, it'd be really interesting
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: to do like a three week sprint where everybody's working
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: a lot more and then the week before your period,
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: everybody brings it down.
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: We just all like have We had a puppy day
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: today where we had some puppies that came in for
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: one of the girl's birthdays from a shower. They're so cute,
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: but everyone at lunchtime just had all these little puppies
[1:06:02] Speaker 2: around them, and it just soothe that everyone everyone'snav a system.
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: So that was what a great idea.
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: It was a great idea.
[1:06:08] Speaker 2: I wanted to just touch on perimenopause because I think
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: there's you know, confusion between what is even the difference
[1:06:15] Speaker 2: between perimenopause and menopause. Yeah, what are some of the
[1:06:18] Speaker 2: signs and symptoms to look out for?
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, So perimont menopause is when those hormones are starting
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: to go down, but you're still have a regular cycle.
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: So you're still having a regular cycle, but you're starting
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: to notice, hey, I might not sleep as well as
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: I used to, seem to be reacting to stress a
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: little bit more acutely. Sometimes you're like the same routines
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: that helped you lose weight don't help you anymore. And
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: that was the menopause reset. That whole book was about
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: how the diet you did at thirty five doesn't work
[1:06:49] Speaker 1: for you at forty five, right, So it's it's really
[1:06:52] Speaker 1: a time in which the hormones are starting to go
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: down and you're starting to experience yourself different, right, And
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: like things that used to work in your health habits
[1:07:02] Speaker 1: are not working. So skin changes, hair, changes lubrication to like,
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: you know, moisture, mucosal membranes, libido goes down, you don't
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: feel like working out, you're injured a little more like
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: like you're just like something's up, and it's because you're
[1:07:20] Speaker 1: these amazing wisdom molecules are starting to go away. So
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: that's usually that's kind of the indication. But it's it's
[1:07:28] Speaker 1: the warm the worm down.
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: Like.
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: What's really interesting is it takes about ten years from
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: the time that you start your period to be like
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: fully in your glory. So if you start your pard
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: it's thirteen, it takes your body about ten years for
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: the brain and the ovaries to get their.
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: Groove going true.
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: Right by twenty three, you're in well at thirty five,
[1:07:52] Speaker 1: now you're going ten years where it starts to wind down, right,
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: So it's not it's not like one day that was
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: kind of the big thing that I was shocked at.
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: I thought you were just fertile one day and then
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: one day it went away.
[1:08:04] Speaker 3: Yes, a lot.
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: I want to talk about HRT because obviously a lot
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: of women get put on it and all women do.
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: All women get on HIT when they go through menopose.
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: No HRT is coming back in vogue. I think it's
[1:08:18] Speaker 1: a very personal decision. It's not going to be a
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: free pass from lifestyle changes. You want to work with
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: somebody who can work with the dosage because what would
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: be a appropriate dose for you may be completely different
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: for somebody else.
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: And if someone if this is a natural process that
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: your body will just go through, does someone needs to
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: be having HRD No, I think that's it's hormonal replacement.
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: Hormone replacement therapy, right.
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: So, like I've been doing some research on the different
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: HRT uses, Like throughout the world, only four percent of
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: perimenopause and menopausal women in Japan use HRT, wow, whereas
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: fifty percent use it here in the US. Okay, let's
[1:09:03] Speaker 1: start to unpack what the lifestyle differences are. So it's
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: a personal choice, and I don't think a woman should
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: be shamed to go on it. I don't think she
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: should be shamed to not go on it. Yes, I
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: think you have to look at your lifestyle changes first
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: and then make a decision if it's right for you.
[1:09:23] Speaker 1: And then what happens to most women is once you
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: go on there's a little bit of a learning curve
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: you have to figure out what your proper dose is.
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: That's why you need a really good.
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: OBI right, that makes sense.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: So is there anything else that you would want women
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: listening to know that you haven't mentioned already, or any
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: last pieces of advice.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: I mean, I love this conversation. It was great, So
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I just don't give up on yourself. Yeah,
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: we were really the way the culture taught us to
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: treat our bodies. This is so wrong. Like you were
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: born in a miracle. Your body's always doing the right
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: thing at the right time. It's always working for you.
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: The more I study the female body, the more blessed
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: I am to have lived in a female body. And
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: it's really just about getting to know this incredible miracle
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: that you get to live in. So be curious about it,
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: don't be shameful about it.
[1:10:16] Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You have been absolutely incredible.
[1:10:19] Speaker 2: Thank you for your knowledge, your wisdom, your energy, and honestly, everybody,
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: please go out and read these books because you will
[1:10:27] Speaker 2: learn so much more about yourself than you can ever imagine.
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: And you can just improve your health a day and
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: day out, and that's such a beautiful blessing to have
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: the opportunity to do that.
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: So thank you doctor Mindy.
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: This is so unerul. I appreciate you, appreciate you,

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