# How the Hell Do We Stay Okay When Everything’s Not? - Gillian Deacon

An episode of [Unlonely with Dr. Jody Carrington](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1708644669), 11 Jun 2026, 50 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/650c7b1e8c8c2d0010306abc/e/6a05fe41efd1f558b033fe0b/media.mp3

We’re all just trying to hold it together in a world that feels like it’s burning down. Uncertainty. Fear. No end in sight. These are not just buzzwords, they are the ingredients of dysregulation. And they’re stealing the best parts of us. In this raw, real, and soul-shifting conversation, I sat down with the incredible @gilldeacon to talk about her book A Love Affair with the Unknown and the question we're all asking right now: How do we be okay when things are not okay? Here’s what we landed on: We don’t get stronger by avoiding fear—we grow by naming it and sitting in it. Healing starts when the nervous system feels safe again. Not before. Curiosity is the antidote to control. Certainty is a myth—but wonder is medicine. Slowing down is NOT weakness, it’s where the wisdom lives. Let this be your reminder: Hope is a choice. You are not broken. You’ve just lost access to the best parts of you. Let’s get it back. You matter more than you know. We’re in this together. Follow Gillian Here: @gilldeacon @aloveaffairwiththeunknown Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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