# 140: Why Every Person Is Creative with Kyle Scheele

An episode of [The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1708323202), 20 May 2026, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8b4df9b5-1363-4bfb-bca5-776994fad4de.mp3

Most people think creativity is something you either have or you don't — a gift, a gene, a mysterious lightning bolt that strikes a chosen few. Kyle Scheele has spent his career dismantling that belief, and in this conversation he makes the case that creativity isn't magic at all. It's problem-solving. And everyone already does it, every single day. In Part 1 of this episode: • Why your brain is not a truth-seeking machine — it's a belief justification machine: give it the belief "I'm not creative" and it will spend the rest of your life finding evidence to prove you right • Kyle's spontaneous ideation theory — the creativity myth he compares to the 17th century scientific belief that dirty rags and wheat kernels spontaneously generated mice, and why most people's understanding of where ideas come from is just as wrong • The coffee shop moment that defined Kyle's career: his friend Isaac told him, "most people come in here, talk about an idea, and the next time you hear about it, it's just an idea again — you come in two days later editing the footage" • How Kyle went from broke high schooler selling "Osteoporosis is bad to the bone" T-shirts out of the school lunch room to getting a line into Urban Outfitters in his first year of college — and what that early experience installed in him about figuring things out • Why 70% of the time, when companies give their teams the bandwidth to explore a challenge internally, the answer is already there — it's just inside the head of someone who hasn't been asked yet (Harvard Business Review, cited on stage) Content Warning: This episode includes a brief discussion of childhood suicidal ideation. Kyle shares openly about his experience as a child feeling isolated in school and experiencing dark thoughts, before a friendship changed his perspective. The conversation is handled with care and context, but we want our listeners to be prepared. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada. Episode Highlights: 00:00 - Creativity as Problem Solving 00:36 - Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro 03:24 - Turning Ideas Into Action 06:33 - Early Hustle T Shirt Business 11:40 - Belief Systems Block Creativity 15:27 - Ambition Versus Contentment 20:59 - No Right or Wrong in Ideas 25:06 - AI Limits and Skin in Game 26:46 - School Struggles and Finding Belonging 28:44 - It Only Takes One Person To Make An Impact 29:36 - Creative Kid Origins 30:12 - Student Council Confidence 31:45 - Baby Steps Momentum 32:15 - Window Of Possibility 33:45 - Vision Into Action 35:08 - Fuel Creativity Thrives Within Constraints 36:49 - Recovering Curiosity 39:34 - Questioning Limiting Beliefs 44:15 - Everyone Is Creative 45:41 - Claiming Artist Identity 48:29 - Business Needs Crystal Clear Goals 51:12 - Creativity As Problem Solving 52:39 - Unlocking Team Innovation 57:27 - Closing Remarks and Stay Tuned For Part 2 Resources mentioned: • Several books (for adults and childen) referenced written by Kyle, can be found here: https://kylescheele.com/Books • Harvard Business Review study on internal innovation • Heather Moyse — Olympic athlete referenced by Dwayne re: chunking goals • Spontaneous generation theory / Francesco Redi experiments — referenced in context of the creativity myth • Orbis Medicinae — Jan Baptist van Helmont, referenced in context of spontaneous generation • Steve Jobs interview — paraphrased by Kyle re: everything in the world being made by people no smarter than you • LeanScaper Operations Intensive — conference where Dwayne first saw Kyle speak Quotes: “ What you might consider might be right or wrong is really based on what's the possibility of it happening, and then it'll only be judged when you look back on it in history.” - Dwayne Kerrigan “ If you don't get clear on that goal, it's hard to know where to go.” - Kyle Scheele “ Creativity is just problem-solving. Every idea is…

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