# Nightcap Hour 2: Lions DEFEAT Packers + Falcons STUN Niners + Nightcap North Carolina A&T HBCU Tour + Vikings STAY UNDEFEATED + Steelers BEAT Saints in PARIS

An episode of [Nightcap](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1706534198), 26 Oct 2026, 51 min.

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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Lions beating the Packers, Falcons stun the Niners, Nightcap HBCU Tour, Vikings beat the Colt and Steelers win in Paris! Download PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 01:19:00 - Lions beat Packers 20-17 01:33:30 - Falcons beat 49ers 29-20 1:37:40 - Nightcap live from NCA&T 01:40:40 - Vikings beat Colts 16-10 02:00:05 - Steelers beat Saints 16-10 (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Ocho, Joe, the Lions defeated the Packers on a 22-yard
[0:03] Speaker 1: walk-off field goal 20-17. The Packers lost their game from
[0:09] Speaker 1: drop catches and missed field goals. They lead the league.
[0:12] Speaker 1: They got 18 drops.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Already?
[0:15] Speaker 3: Tied for the most. And guess what?
[0:17] Speaker 1: Tied with the most field goal and PAT misses with seven.
[0:22] Speaker 3: There were some questionable calls.
[0:23] Speaker 1: Unnecessary roughness called against the Packers after tackling Amorase Brown.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Even though he was still trying to run, the guy
[0:30] Speaker 1: tackled him. His foot turned around and kicked the guy,
[0:32] Speaker 1: kicked the official in the stomach. The official threw the
[0:35] Speaker 1: flag from his back.
[0:36] Speaker 4: Intentional grounded call on Jordan Love and multiple roughing the passer.
[0:47] Speaker 4: Here's the Packers DB, Xavier McKinney, postgame going off on
[0:52] Speaker 4: the officiating.
[0:53] Speaker 2: Oh, he going to get fined.
[0:55] Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of the refs right now.
[0:57] Speaker 6: I don't think it's.
[0:58] Speaker 5: Great officiating, if I'm being completely honest. I think it's
[1:01] Speaker 5: bullshit a lot of the times. I think there are
[1:04] Speaker 5: drives where they make calls that don't even make any sense.
[1:10] Speaker 5: For instance, we had a call, I think it was on,
[1:13] Speaker 5: I forgot who it was on, but the runner was
[1:16] Speaker 5: still running and we didn't hear a whistle. We tried
[1:21] Speaker 5: to get him down and then their player hit the
[1:24] Speaker 5: ref and he falls. He gets mad on the ground
[1:27] Speaker 5: and he just throws the flag. He don't even know
[1:28] Speaker 5: who hit him. So it's just like, it just be
[1:31] Speaker 5: bullshit that's going on, bullshit calls. And I don't really,
[1:35] Speaker 5: I can't really tell you because sometimes we're not getting,
[1:38] Speaker 5: we're not seeing the same calls for our quarterback. We're
[1:41] Speaker 5: not seeing the same calls for our offensive guy. So
[1:43] Speaker 5: I just don't really understand. It really don't matter if
[1:45] Speaker 5: it's home or away. It's kind of been consistent throughout
[1:47] Speaker 5: the year. So, I mean, obviously, like I said, it's
[1:52] Speaker 5: not to make it as an excuse, but... I just
[1:55] Speaker 5: say it got to go both ways, man.
[1:57] Speaker 3: That's all I say.
[1:59] Speaker 2: Hey, boy, you're going to get a hefty.
[2:00] Speaker 3: One, huh, Unc? Yeah, they're going to fight it. Ocho.
[2:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:04] Speaker 1: We talked, Joe. We talked about this last week. They
[2:07] Speaker 1: won the game. But how many drop touchdowns did they
[2:09] Speaker 1: have last week, Ocho?
[2:11] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:12] Speaker 2: Three, Unc.
[2:13] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:13] Speaker 4: Eventually, that bites you in the butt. We talked about this.
[2:17] Speaker 4: And the penalties. They are a penalized team.
[2:20] Speaker 2: A lot. A lot of penalties.
[2:21] Speaker 3: We talked about the penalties, and we talked about the drops.
[2:25] Speaker 1: Now, they lead the league in drops, they lead the
[2:27] Speaker 1: league in missed field goals and PATs, and they're one
[2:30] Speaker 1: of the most penalized teams where they rank in penalties.
[2:35] Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the Packers want. I'm
[2:39] Speaker 1: not saying that, yeah, Almond Rob was still trying to run.
[2:43] Speaker 1: And the guy, and they say they didn't hear the whistle. Hey,
[2:46] Speaker 1: Armand Rod guess he didn't hear the whistle either. And yes, hey,
[2:50] Speaker 1: the official got upset because Armand Rod kicked the ish
[2:53] Speaker 1: out of him in the stomach.
[2:58] Speaker 3: He did help me to laugh, Chad. But he did.
[3:00] Speaker 4: He got him. He got him in the stomach. And
[3:02] Speaker 4: the official, hey, that official nailed it back. Hey, he
[3:12] Speaker 4: was pissed off. I see. He was mad, boy.
[3:22] Speaker 3: He was? Yeah.
[3:23] Speaker 7: I was able to watch his games, too. Obviously, I
[3:26] Speaker 7: wasn't able to watch it with sound. I went to, like,
[3:29] Speaker 7: I can't remember the name of it. Nice little place.
[3:32] Speaker 7: It's called the Garden Rooftop. The Garden Rooftop is right here.
[3:36] Speaker 7: Not too far from, you know, where I'm staying. I
[3:39] Speaker 7: was able to enjoy the game. Obviously, music was playing,
[3:41] Speaker 7: but I was watching the game. So I wasn't able
[3:43] Speaker 7: to hear what was going on, but I did see
[3:45] Speaker 7: all the yellow.
[3:46] Speaker 2: I kept seeing all the flags being thrown. As I'm
[3:48] Speaker 2: watching the.
[3:49] Speaker 7: Game and scrolling through Twitter, I said, oh, the Detroit
[3:52] Speaker 7: Lions and this Lions and Packers game is really good.
[3:57] Speaker 7: And then my timeline was flooded with, yeah, it would
[4:00] Speaker 7: look good to you. You must be going for the
[4:02] Speaker 7: Lions with all the flags that are being thrown.
[4:06] Speaker 2: And I'm like, well.
[4:07] Speaker 7: Listen, I see the flag being thrown, but just to me, offensively,
[4:12] Speaker 7: looking at the quarterback's numbers and what they were doing,
[4:14] Speaker 7: I felt the game was good to me. And I'm
[4:16] Speaker 7: just speaking from an offensive perspective because I'm just looking
[4:19] Speaker 7: at the ball, you know, being thrown all over the place,
[4:21] Speaker 7: even though a lot of drops on the Packers end.
[4:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes. Okay.
[4:26] Speaker 1: They lead the league in drops. They lead the league
[4:29] Speaker 1: in missed field goals and PATs. They're the most penalized team.
[4:33] Speaker 1: They should be lucky they won a game.
[4:37] Speaker 4: Damn.
[4:37] Speaker 1: The average, nine and a half penalties a game. So
[4:40] Speaker 1: tell me how many times you're going to win. When
[4:41] Speaker 1: you drop the ball, you get penalized, and you miss
[4:44] Speaker 1: PATs and field goals. I'm surprised they won as many
[4:48] Speaker 1: games as they have.
[4:49] Speaker 3: We talked about this last week.
[4:53] Speaker 7: Hey, Uncle Joe, even with those drops, right, the drops
[4:56] Speaker 7: that they are having, you have to understand, Matthew Golden
[4:59] Speaker 7: and Christian Watson are so explosive with the ones that
[5:02] Speaker 7: they do catch.
[5:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:04] Speaker 7: That they still put up points, and that's why they're
[5:06] Speaker 7: able to win games. So not only are they explosive
[5:08] Speaker 7: with the ones that they do catch, if you factor
[5:12] Speaker 7: in the ones that they do drop, and if they're
[5:13] Speaker 7: able to catch those, they'd be even that much better.
[5:16] Speaker 7: Especially if you have a little bit better discipline when
[5:20] Speaker 7: it comes to some of those penalties.
[5:21] Speaker 3: Them penalties killing them.
[5:23] Speaker 2: It'd be even better.
[5:25] Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, think about last week they got the roughing
[5:28] Speaker 1: the penalty call. Now, I thought there were some horse
[5:32] Speaker 1: jive calls because they called two on Dak Prescott, but look,
[5:35] Speaker 1: roughing the passer.
[5:35] Speaker 4: I'm like, really, dude? That ain't no damn roughing the passer.
[5:39] Speaker 1: The guy barely touched Dak, and Dak felt like he
[5:42] Speaker 1: was in a Western.
[5:44] Speaker 6: Oh.
[5:48] Speaker 3: But, Pac, y'all got to clean this up. LaFleur, you
[5:53] Speaker 3: got to clean this up. Yeah. They got to catch
[5:57] Speaker 3: the football.
[5:58] Speaker 7: Hey, listen, they have a problem catching the ball now, Joe,
[6:03] Speaker 7: and it's not even cold yet.
[6:07] Speaker 2: Boy.
[6:07] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[6:09] Speaker 2: But when it gets cold and that ball.
[6:10] Speaker 7: Hits them hands.
[6:12] Speaker 3: They feel like a brick, don't they, man? What?
[6:15] Speaker 1: Hell, yeah. And that's it's only going to get worse. Because, see,
[6:23] Speaker 1: when you drop passes and you win, you blow. Oh, man,
[6:27] Speaker 1: I'd have caught that one. I'd have caught that one.
[6:30] Speaker 3: Okay.
[6:31] Speaker 1: Now we're getting a close ball game, and you drop
[6:33] Speaker 1: those same passes. We're getting a close ball game, and
[6:38] Speaker 1: you commit those penalties. How many penalties did they commit
[6:40] Speaker 1: last week? Because they committed a bunch last week. How
[6:44] Speaker 1: many penalties did they commit last week?
[6:51] Speaker 6: Mm-mm.
[6:53] Speaker 3: A bunch. A bunch, Ocho.
[7:02] Speaker 1: They committed 11 last week. But, you know, Ocho, but
[7:08] Speaker 1: you know what they're going to say. Joe, you know
[7:09] Speaker 1: what they're going to say? Man, y'all didn't watch the game.
[7:13] Speaker 1: When fans get mad at what we say, Joe, that's
[7:15] Speaker 1: the critique. You ain't watch the game.
[7:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:19] Speaker 3: I didn't.
[7:20] Speaker 1: I just knew they had double-digit penalties. I didn't watch
[7:23] Speaker 1: the game. I don't know who that was. I just
[7:25] Speaker 1: saw a team at Green playing Sunday night against the Cowboys,
[7:29] Speaker 1: and every time I turned around, I saw a penalty
[7:31] Speaker 1: flag coming out.
[7:32] Speaker 4: Hey, y'all don't think that's a point of emphasis, though,
[7:34] Speaker 4: from the coaches to the players, bro? Because how do
[7:36] Speaker 4: you keep coming out making these same costly mistakes weekend
[7:40] Speaker 4: after weekend? I don't understand that part now. Come on,
[7:43] Speaker 4: y'all got to help me with this. You coach it
[7:46] Speaker 4: or you condone it?
[7:48] Speaker 7: But the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, is
[7:52] Speaker 7: I know for a fact that every coach, regardless of position,
[7:55] Speaker 7: especially the head coach, they don't condone this. They coach that,
[7:59] Speaker 7: but when you get in game, players still make those
[8:01] Speaker 7: same undisciplined mistakes.
[8:04] Speaker 3: Because you know why, Uncle Joe?
[8:06] Speaker 2: Huh?
[8:06] Speaker 3: What they do in practice. Man, stop holding.
[8:09] Speaker 1: When you telling guys they be holding you in practice,
[8:12] Speaker 1: you tell them to stop holding in practice.
[8:13] Speaker 3: What they do in the game? Get in the game
[8:15] Speaker 3: and hold and they throw the flag.
[8:17] Speaker 7: Hey, the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, the
[8:19] Speaker 7: same habits you do, the same habits you practice at practice,
[8:24] Speaker 7: those same habits are going to carry over into the game.
[8:28] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[8:29] Speaker 2: The exact same thing.
[8:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:31] Speaker 2: Hey, listen, there's no pressure on you. There's no pressure
[8:35] Speaker 2: on you in practice. you can make, it's the place
[8:37] Speaker 2: to make mistakes.
[8:39] Speaker 3: And not only is it not pressure.
[8:40] Speaker 2: It happens in practice.
[8:41] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:41] Speaker 2: Don't carry over to the game every time.
[8:44] Speaker 4: And not only is it not pressure, Ocho, but the
[8:46] Speaker 4: coaches do kind of condone the physical play at times.
[8:49] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? There may be a little
[8:51] Speaker 4: overly too much, especially in basketball. And then when you
[8:54] Speaker 4: get in the game, you're like, damn, he picked up
[8:56] Speaker 4: two fouls in seven minutes. That's because he's been fouling
[8:59] Speaker 4: in practice all week too.
[9:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:01] Speaker 3: You ain't even calling it.
[9:03] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[9:03] Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly. They had 11 last week. They had 8
[9:07] Speaker 3: for 81 today.
[9:07] Speaker 2: Damn.
[9:09] Speaker 1: So that's 19 penalties. That's 19 accepted penalties.
[9:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to fix that.
[9:17] Speaker 3: They lead the league.
[9:19] Speaker 1: They're the most penalized team. Cleveland's up there. The Texans
[9:25] Speaker 1: are up there. Yeah.
[9:28] Speaker 3: Damn. And then you wonder why. Damn, we losing this game.
[9:33] Speaker 1: Look, And I'm the first to admit, if there are
[9:36] Speaker 1: some calls last week that I thought against Dak, Joe,
[9:40] Speaker 1: I was like, come on now. And I get the
[9:44] Speaker 1: guy when Armand Ra was still trying to run and
[9:46] Speaker 1: the guy slung his ass down when he was slanging
[9:48] Speaker 1: him and Armand Ra's foot kicked the.
[9:50] Speaker 3: Official in the stomach.
[9:52] Speaker 1: Hey, man, you know when you get hit and you
[9:57] Speaker 1: get caught off guard.
[9:58] Speaker 3: It hurt a little bit more.
[10:00] Speaker 2: And you mad.
[10:02] Speaker 3: Man, hey, give me your flag, too. I'm going to
[10:05] Speaker 3: throw all yours. Hey, give me yours. Hey, he couldn't
[10:08] Speaker 3: wait to throw that flag. He couldn't wait to throw
[10:15] Speaker 3: that flag.
[10:20] Speaker 2: I want to see a clip of that.
[10:22] Speaker 3: Oh, you got to see it, Ojo. Man, it's funny, man.
[10:25] Speaker 3: It's funny as hell.
[10:27] Speaker 7: I'm surprised it's not all over Twitter.
[10:36] Speaker 3: Yep.
[10:37] Speaker 1: The Lions, on the other hand, got their first back-to-back
[10:40] Speaker 1: win since last December.
[10:42] Speaker 3: Jerry Goff, 22-32. 3-0-3, two touchdowns.
[10:46] Speaker 1: Golf is the only quarterback in NFL history with at
[10:49] Speaker 1: least 14 TD passes and no turnovers through the first
[10:53] Speaker 1: six games of any season. Oh, they didn't charge that
[10:57] Speaker 1: fumble to him? They gave it to the center? Because
[11:00] Speaker 1: he fumbled. But anyway, in the last seven weeks, he's
[11:02] Speaker 1: 150 of 223.
[11:03] Speaker 3: That's 67%. 1,788 passing yards, 14 touchdowns, one Russian touchdown,
[11:06] Speaker 3: zero INT. Hmm. Zero.
[11:18] Speaker 1: We got to give him some. Look, I understand. And
[11:21] Speaker 1: maybe because their record is not what we want it
[11:23] Speaker 1: to be.
[11:24] Speaker 3: Right. But he's playing the quarterback position as good as anybody. Yeah.
[11:29] Speaker 1: If you talk about Joe Burrow, if you talk about
[11:34] Speaker 1: Josh Allen, whoever you may be mentioning for MVP early, K-9,
[11:40] Speaker 1: Jared Goff said.
[11:41] Speaker 2: In the conversation. Yeah, quietly.
[11:44] Speaker 7: I think he gets overlooked right now, too, Unc, even
[11:47] Speaker 7: though he's playing well because the defense is so bad.
[11:50] Speaker 7: The defense has been playing so bad. You can see
[11:54] Speaker 7: they played well today. They got my young boy, Brian Branch,
[11:58] Speaker 7: is back. He come back after all this time. Joe,
[12:01] Speaker 7: he get an interception first time back. First time back
[12:04] Speaker 7: on the field.
[12:06] Speaker 3: Ball magnet.
[12:07] Speaker 7: Yeah, he sparked that defense in a sense. Aiden, he's
[12:13] Speaker 7: Is it Hutchinson?
[12:14] Speaker 3: Hutchinson. Aiden Hutchinson.
[12:16] Speaker 2: Man, he got a motor up, man.
[12:17] Speaker 3: He does.
[12:18] Speaker 2: And he can go. My goodness, man.
[12:21] Speaker 3: He can go.
[12:22] Speaker 1: But Ocho and Joe, when those two guys are going off,
[12:26] Speaker 1: when Amin Ra is doing what he's doing and J-Mo
[12:28] Speaker 1: is doing.
[12:30] Speaker 3: Hey, man, did you see Panay Sule out there running
[12:32] Speaker 3: the shallow cross, Ocho?
[12:33] Speaker 4: No.
[12:35] Speaker 3: They put Penesu all 6'5, 325 pounds. He ran to
[12:37] Speaker 3: Shannon Crowe. Suck that thing down, too.
[12:47] Speaker 1: Hey, remember a couple of years ago, Ocho, they ran
[12:50] Speaker 1: the hook and lateral to it.
[12:52] Speaker 3: Remember they ran the hook and lateral? Yeah, they hooked it.
[12:54] Speaker 3: He came out.
[12:55] Speaker 1: Joe, they threw it to the wide receiver. The wide
[12:57] Speaker 1: receiver pissed it back. That thing was getting up the sideline.
[13:01] Speaker 2: Hey, remember they threw, I forgot what play it was.
[13:04] Speaker 3: They threw a fade, tried to throw him a fade.
[13:07] Speaker 2: Was it Dan Skipper?
[13:08] Speaker 4: Decker.
[13:08] Speaker 2: The skipper, Dan Skipper, something. Yeah. Tall dude.
[13:12] Speaker 3: High point. He tried to high point him.
[13:14] Speaker 2: High point him.
[13:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[13:15] Speaker 2: Hey, that was when Ben Johnson was there. Ben Johnson
[13:18] Speaker 2: was creative with them plays.
[13:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. No interception.
[13:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry Goff is the only quarterback with 14 touchdowns
[13:24] Speaker 1: and no interceptions through the first six games of any season.
[13:30] Speaker 1: He's having that type of season, and we need to
[13:32] Speaker 1: give him more credit.
[13:33] Speaker 3: I understand. If their defense– Was a little bit better, Ochoa? Yeah.
[13:38] Speaker 1: Because, look, Gibbs is going to be Gibbs. Amin Ra
[13:42] Speaker 1: is going to be Amin Ra. J-Mo got involved today.
[13:46] Speaker 3: They tough. They tough offensively now. Yeah.
[13:49] Speaker 1: They tough. But that defense is going to have to
[13:53] Speaker 1: get up to par. But Green Bay, you guys are
[13:58] Speaker 1: going to have to stop committing mistakes. You're going to
[14:00] Speaker 1: have to stop dropping the football. You're going to have
[14:02] Speaker 1: to start making your kicks. And you're going to have
[14:04] Speaker 1: to start being penalized.
[14:05] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[14:06] Speaker 3: Those get you beat.
[14:08] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[14:11] Speaker 3: It's early. It's not like it's not correctable because it is.
[14:17] Speaker 1: Dropping the football, that's just lack of concentration.
[14:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[14:20] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[14:27] Speaker 1: The Falcons upset the 49ers 29-20. Atlanta has the 49ers,
[14:32] Speaker 1: their first loss of the season. The Falcons defense had
[14:34] Speaker 1: Brock Purdy uncomfortable the entire game.
[14:36] Speaker 3: 27-40, 288, one touchdown, two interceptions.
[14:41] Speaker 1: This is the first time that we really saw them
[14:44] Speaker 1: vulnerable because they're down so many guys.
[14:47] Speaker 3: Ocho, I keep– Ocho's the next man up.
[14:49] Speaker 1: I say, Ocho, you already missing four starters, and now
[14:51] Speaker 1: you keep talking about now you down to the next man,
[14:54] Speaker 1: to the next man, to the next man, to the
[14:56] Speaker 1: next man.
[14:56] Speaker 3: He got to be up.
[14:58] Speaker 1: And I'm still not so sure they would have lost
[15:01] Speaker 1: this game, but you can't turn the ball over four
[15:03] Speaker 1: times on the road and.
[15:04] Speaker 3: Expect to win.
[15:04] Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely not. That ain't happening.
[15:07] Speaker 4: Y'all got to give the Falcons defense some credit, Ocho.
[15:10] Speaker 3: They got out there. Them boys weren't playing. They got
[15:12] Speaker 3: out there for sure.
[15:14] Speaker 2: You said it. That's one of the reasons why they
[15:17] Speaker 2: did win, four turnovers.
[15:19] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[15:20] Speaker 7: I don't know out of those turnovers how many of
[15:22] Speaker 7: those turnovers turned into points, but I can tell you
[15:24] Speaker 7: it made a huge difference in the game.
[15:26] Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe.
[15:28] Speaker 4: Ocho, that was one reason why they won. Penix, you
[15:31] Speaker 4: got to give Penix his credit, too. Hey, he was
[15:34] Speaker 4: out there spinning. Oh, he was dealing today.
[15:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was out there spinning that thing. Back to
[15:39] Speaker 1: back game with at least three touchdowns. Hey, he was
[15:41] Speaker 1: spinning that thing.
[15:42] Speaker 4: It's hard to understand, like, damn, just from one position,
[15:46] Speaker 4: the quarterback position, for that team, the Falcons not to
[15:49] Speaker 4: be able to get in the red zone the first
[15:51] Speaker 4: two games, bro, and everything gets changed since Penix has
[15:54] Speaker 4: been back. Hey, the Falcons look like they got a
[15:57] Speaker 4: legit chance to raise some hell.
[16:00] Speaker 2: They can't.
[16:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[16:04] Speaker 2: Raise some hell with.
[16:05] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Ocho, they, hey.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Oh, no, I just want to know, I mean, talk
[16:09] Speaker 2: about where they going to raise hell, at Magic City?
[16:12] Speaker 3: What? What you mean? What you trying to say?
[16:18] Speaker 2: I just make a little jokey joke, like Martin would say.
[16:20] Speaker 2: Just a little jokey joke.
[16:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, them boys, hey, they look all right, man.
[16:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but Michael Penis with three touchdowns, but
[16:31] Speaker 1: the 49ers, come on, man. Who do y'all think y'all
[16:33] Speaker 1: going to be turning the ball over four times?
[16:35] Speaker 3: Nobody. And you already.
[16:38] Speaker 2: Depleted.
[16:39] Speaker 3: Depleted. Understaffed to begin with.
[16:42] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[16:42] Speaker 3: And then you turn it over four times on the road? Yeah.
[16:47] Speaker 3: It was a matter of time, fellas. It was about time.
[16:49] Speaker 3: They were going to get an L soon. They would do. Yeah.
[16:53] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[16:54] Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at some.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Of these guys like Jordan Watkins, Jacob Cowick. They just
[17:02] Speaker 1: got Brandon Cooks off his couch about three weeks ago.
[17:06] Speaker 3: Ojo, you can't keep, I mean, come on now.
[17:09] Speaker 1: You can't keep trotting these guys out here and expecting
[17:12] Speaker 1: them all.
[17:13] Speaker 2: And expecting them to win, no.
[17:15] Speaker 3: It's hard.
[17:16] Speaker 1: And I know Shanahan's great and Brock Purdy's great. I
[17:19] Speaker 1: get everything. I get all of that. But it is very,
[17:24] Speaker 1: very difficult for you to consistently lose your best players.
[17:28] Speaker 1: and keep having to trot guys out there. Because guess what?
[17:31] Speaker 1: The guys are getting hurt now. The guys that are
[17:35] Speaker 1: replacing your best players are starting.
[17:36] Speaker 3: To get hurt. That sucks.
[17:41] Speaker 1: Somebody talking about they need to call Dijon Love for
[17:44] Speaker 1: a wide receiver position.
[17:47] Speaker 2: Hey, you know what?
[17:48] Speaker 7: The good thing about them, even though they have injuries
[17:50] Speaker 7: and they've been bit by the injury bug yet again,
[17:55] Speaker 7: as they've been bit last year, the year.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Before that, But this is their bye week.
[18:00] Speaker 7: I'm not sure who can heal up and who can
[18:02] Speaker 7: rest up and be ready for week nine, which is
[18:09] Speaker 7: November 8th.
[18:10] Speaker 2: They play the Raiders.
[18:11] Speaker 3: They play the Raiders.
[18:12] Speaker 7: So that might be a game to try to get
[18:14] Speaker 7: yourselves back on track. But the Raiders aren't playing that
[18:18] Speaker 7: bad this year.
[18:19] Speaker 3: And my first cousin's throwing the ball now.
[18:21] Speaker 2: Hey, he throwing that thing. So Glock Purdy, hey, the
[18:24] Speaker 2: Glock jammed today, y'all. That's what happened.
[18:26] Speaker 3: The Glock jammed today. Check this out, guys.
[18:37] Speaker 1: Before we go any further, Nightcap will be live from
[18:41] Speaker 1: North Carolina A & T' s campus Thursday.
[18:44] Speaker 3: This Thursday, October 29th. What?
[18:47] Speaker 1: And McDonald's is in the building bringing you flavor, culture,
[18:51] Speaker 1: and scholarship information all in one space. Big shout out
[18:56] Speaker 1: to the students, organization, and the leaders making this campus.
[18:59] Speaker 3: What it is.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Y'all got a special thing going. Thank you for having us.
[19:04] Speaker 1: This will be an episode for the books. And if
[19:07] Speaker 1: you wasn't ready enough... McDonald's Chef Remix is pulling up
[19:11] Speaker 1: the campus to serve up some delicious food. Don't miss
[19:15] Speaker 1: out on this black and positively golden scholarship. That's up
[19:19] Speaker 1: to $ 15, 000 per student plus mentorship and resources.
[19:24] Speaker 3: We'll see you there. Yeah, yeah, we at A & T.
[19:27] Speaker 3: We call it A & T.
[19:30] Speaker 2: Hey, somebody.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Hey, Joe. Come on, show up. You knew this already?
[19:34] Speaker 4: Huh?
[19:35] Speaker 2: You knew this already, Joe?
[19:36] Speaker 3: No, how was I supposed to know?
[19:38] Speaker 7: Okay, I thought, you know, sometimes I thought y'all be
[19:40] Speaker 7: sharing information. I'm the last one to find out on
[19:43] Speaker 7: the show live.
[19:44] Speaker 3: Oh, so you felt, you felt a feel away. You
[19:46] Speaker 3: felt the way.
[19:47] Speaker 7: I was going to feel away. Cause North Carolina auntie,
[19:50] Speaker 7: you know, the Aggies, they're my people.
[19:52] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[19:53] Speaker 1: I'm just not finding out about, Oh, Joyce, I'm reading this.
[19:55] Speaker 1: I'm just not finding out about it.
[19:58] Speaker 6: Hey, hold on.
[19:59] Speaker 2: Hey, uh, a and T man. Hey, is the band
[20:02] Speaker 2: going to be there?
[20:02] Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah.
[20:04] Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hey, listen, North Carolina A &
[20:07] Speaker 2: T band, I need y'all, you know, I need to
[20:09] Speaker 2: hear something now.
[20:11] Speaker 3: You hear me? I need to hear something, you know?
[20:13] Speaker 2: I'm excited, man.
[20:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably going to break the shelf, cook it
[20:17] Speaker 4: up some special.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Maybe that'll make rib come back. Maybe that'll make neck
[20:21] Speaker 1: bone sandwich come back out.
[20:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[20:24] Speaker 2: You know how this makes so much sense, Uncle Joe?
[20:27] Speaker 3: What's that?
[20:28] Speaker 2: McDonald's, they're a part of this. I like McDonald's. You know,
[20:32] Speaker 2: I like Nightcap, Nightcap McDonald's. You see, life is coming
[20:37] Speaker 2: full circle.
[20:38] Speaker 3: I see.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Life is coming full circle. I mean, listen, I feel good, man.
[20:42] Speaker 2: I'm happy.
[20:43] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[20:43] Speaker 2: I'm happy for us. I'm happy for all the students
[20:46] Speaker 2: and the alum, you know, from North Carolina A & T. Huh?
[20:50] Speaker 3: Let's go. Oh, yeah.
[20:52] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[20:53] Speaker 1: So make sure you head up. A & T, we coming. Nightcap,
[20:56] Speaker 1: this Thursday, October 29th. And we're bringing McDonald's with us.
[21:01] Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
[21:02] Speaker 2: Hey, you know what I lost too, Uncle Joe?
[21:03] Speaker 3: What's that? What? My wig. Oh, man.
[21:08] Speaker 7: You know, they stole my wig. I mean, I lost
[21:11] Speaker 7: it and stole it. I don't know where it's at.
[21:13] Speaker 2: So you know what? This time, I'm going to come
[21:15] Speaker 2: with a headpiece with some waves.
[21:18] Speaker 3: Okay.
[21:18] Speaker 1: Get some sideburns, too. Go ahead and get that answer pack.
[21:21] Speaker 1: Get them sideburns, too.
[21:23] Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. I'm going to get the
[21:24] Speaker 2: Rick Ross beard.
[21:25] Speaker 3: Get the mutton chops.
[21:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[21:28] Speaker 3: I'm going to get a.
[21:28] Speaker 2: Lace front beard with the wades.
[21:32] Speaker 1: We'll be live at 115 Eastern. A & T. Nightcap
[21:37] Speaker 1: in the house.
[21:38] Speaker 3: Show up. I'm ready.
[21:42] Speaker 1: Vikings remain undefeated as they defeat the Colts 16-10. The
[21:46] Speaker 1: Vikings are 6-0 for the first time since 2009. Harrison
[21:50] Speaker 1: Smith with a game-winning interception on Daniel Jones. Harrison Smith
[21:55] Speaker 1: now has 40 interceptions and 20 sacks in his career,
[21:58] Speaker 1: joining Rondae Barber, Charles Wilson as the only players in
[22:02] Speaker 1: NFL history to accomplish that feat. Excuse me. It wasn't
[22:07] Speaker 1: a great day offensively for the Vikes, but... The Vikings
[22:10] Speaker 1: only have 10 touchdowns this season, tied for third fewest
[22:15] Speaker 1: and a 6-0 start in NFL history. Minnesota has scored
[22:19] Speaker 1: five touchdowns in their last five games. Only one other
[22:23] Speaker 1: team in NFL history has scored five or fewer touchdowns
[22:27] Speaker 1: during a five-game winning streak. The Kansas City Cowboys. I
[22:31] Speaker 1: know you didn't know, the Cowboys used to be Kansas City.
[22:34] Speaker 6: 1926.
[22:34] Speaker 3: Hey, well, listen.
[22:40] Speaker 7: All praises for the Minnesota Vikings being undefeated.
[22:44] Speaker 2: It needs to go, obviously, to quarterback play.
[22:47] Speaker 7: Quarterback play, even though they're not scoring a lot of touchdowns,
[22:50] Speaker 7: but Brian Flores and that defense. Brian Flores and that defense,
[22:56] Speaker 7: they need some type of crown, some type of trophy
[22:59] Speaker 7: for being undefeated the way they are now, even when
[23:02] Speaker 7: the offense is not playing as well as they should
[23:06] Speaker 7: with who they have. Harrison, Harrison Smith getting that interception on.
[23:13] Speaker 7: They had some significance to it. I don't know how
[23:15] Speaker 7: to word it the right way because when he got
[23:17] Speaker 7: the interception, he went to the 40-yard line and he
[23:20] Speaker 7: put the ball in the 40.
[23:22] Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he has 40.
[23:24] Speaker 3: That's his 40th interception.
[23:26] Speaker 2: Oh, it's 40.
[23:26] Speaker 4: He has 40 interceptions and 20 sacks. Only three of
[23:30] Speaker 4: the guys in NFL history has that number.
[23:32] Speaker 2: Charles Woodson.
[23:35] Speaker 3: Rondé Barber.
[23:35] Speaker 2: And Rondé Barber and now Harrison Smith.
[23:37] Speaker 3: So that was pretty dope.
[23:39] Speaker 7: You know, for me coming to understand why he put
[23:41] Speaker 7: the ball and spiked it at the 40, that was
[23:44] Speaker 7: really dope. So, Harrison Smith, when you see this, young bull,
[23:47] Speaker 7: I salute you. You know, you're a veteran out there, man.
[23:50] Speaker 7: You've been playing very well for a very long time
[23:52] Speaker 7: and been very consistent at it.
[23:54] Speaker 2: So, salute you in your accomplishments, young.
[23:56] Speaker 3: And they got him to come out of retirement.
[23:58] Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, do y'all have any– issues with this offense
[24:03] Speaker 4: not being able to pull up points like that, are
[24:05] Speaker 4: y'all going to rely on this defense?
[24:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, eventually you're going to have to.
[24:07] Speaker 1: Because eventually, eventually, it always happens. No matter how great
[24:11] Speaker 1: your defense is, you're going to have a game or
[24:15] Speaker 1: two where they struggle. And offense is going to kind
[24:18] Speaker 1: of have their way with them. And in order for
[24:20] Speaker 1: you to win that game, your offense is going to
[24:22] Speaker 1: have to put up points. Went through that very similar
[24:25] Speaker 1: situation when we played with the Ravens in 2000. Historic
[24:28] Speaker 1: great defense, but there are a couple of games that
[24:30] Speaker 1: they struggled And we had to score 38. The question is,
[24:34] Speaker 1: or we had to get to the 30s. The question is,
[24:38] Speaker 1: does Minnesota have that capability, the way they're playing?
[24:44] Speaker 4: Well, I think you continue to get Kyler Murray time
[24:47] Speaker 4: back there, Uncle Ocho.
[24:48] Speaker 3: I think he'll continue to get more comfortable.
[24:51] Speaker 4: I think he only, what, just two weeks post him
[24:54] Speaker 4: having an injury, right?
[24:56] Speaker 3: Yes. Yep. Yeah, so.
[24:58] Speaker 2: Hey, he took off the day, Joe. Hey, he took
[25:01] Speaker 2: off running the day.
[25:02] Speaker 7: I think it might have been a 40 or 43
[25:04] Speaker 7: yard scramble. And somebody put the cartoon, you know, when
[25:09] Speaker 7: somebody's running fast in the cartoon, somebody put the cartoon
[25:13] Speaker 7: sound behind it. Hey, I laughed about 15 minutes straight.
[25:17] Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, Joe?
[25:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
[25:20] Speaker 2: It was hilarious, man. Oh, my goodness. I thought that
[25:25] Speaker 2: was so funny, but Daniel Jones.
[25:30] Speaker 1: Danny Nichols. 13-22, 108 yards, zero touchdowns, one interception.
[25:37] Speaker 3: Head coach Shane Steichen would ask about a quarterback change.
[25:41] Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
[25:43] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
[25:48] Speaker 6: No, I have not thought about a quarterback change. because
[25:51] Speaker 6: I got a ton of faith in Daniel. The game
[25:54] Speaker 6: plan today was to go in and run the football,
[25:56] Speaker 6: and obviously at the end he had the interception, and
[25:58] Speaker 6: that happens in football.
[26:02] Speaker 2: Hey, they got some.
[26:04] Speaker 7: Keenan Allen, Laquan Treadwell, Josh Downs.
[26:11] Speaker 3: Tyler Warren.
[26:15] Speaker 4: They got some nice pieces.
[26:18] Speaker 1: Obviously, Jonathan Taylor. The question is, Ojoe, Yeah. What are
[26:22] Speaker 1: they going to do? Are they going to say, we're
[26:26] Speaker 1: going to ride this thing out?
[26:27] Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Or are they going to become sellers? Quentin Nelson,
[26:32] Speaker 3: the all-pro guard. Yes.
[26:35] Speaker 1: He's not on the contract after this year. DeForest Buckner. Buck,
[26:39] Speaker 1: what are you going to do with him? If I'm them,
[26:44] Speaker 1: and I know teams don't like to hear this on show,
[26:45] Speaker 1: I got to fold it up.
[26:47] Speaker 3: I ain't doing no way. I ain't doing no way.
[26:48] Speaker 2: I ain't doing no way.
[26:49] Speaker 3: I'm going to lose the guy. I'm going to lose
[26:50] Speaker 3: the guy.
[26:51] Speaker 1: I might as well get draft assets and bill for 27-28.
[26:54] Speaker 1: So you're going.
[26:56] Speaker 2: To do it.
[26:57] Speaker 1: Because the question is, are you going to be able
[27:00] Speaker 1: to afford Quentin Nelson?
[27:02] Speaker 3: Are you going to be able to afford Buckner? I mean,
[27:06] Speaker 3: come on now. What y'all going to do?
[27:08] Speaker 2: So you– How about, hey, look, I got two weeks.
[27:14] Speaker 3: I'm going to press that reset, Joe. What? For the Colts?
[27:18] Speaker 4: Yeah. They'll start all over. You going to get your
[27:23] Speaker 4: quarterback out of the draft?
[27:26] Speaker 1: Look, if you release Daniel Jones, $ 35. 2 million dead cap space.
[27:38] Speaker 7: They might turn it around. Two and five ain't looking
[27:42] Speaker 7: too hot, too, bro.
[27:46] Speaker 1: Especially with the way the Jags are playing.
[27:50] Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what? If they were in the NFC East,
[27:53] Speaker 3: with as bad as that division, you know what?
[27:56] Speaker 2: They got a chance.
[27:58] Speaker 3: Maybe. But the Giants are playing well. Yeah.
[28:01] Speaker 1: But with Tennessee what they are, Indy what they are,
[28:08] Speaker 1: the Texans are what they are, clearly the Jags are
[28:12] Speaker 1: the class of that division.
[28:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:14] Speaker 1: The question is, If we're not going to keep these
[28:18] Speaker 1: guys and move forward in 27, I mean, Quentin Nelson's
[28:22] Speaker 1: going to want, you know, top of the garden market.
[28:26] Speaker 1: Buck's going to want, you know, 28, 29, you know,
[28:30] Speaker 1: 30 plus million dollars. Are we going to play that?
[28:37] Speaker 1: Or do we get assets and try to rebuild this thing?
[28:42] Speaker 1: They've already fired their general manager. They're going to have
[28:44] Speaker 1: a general manager. They're going to have a new coach
[28:46] Speaker 1: next year. They're going to have a new coach next year, Ocho.
[28:49] Speaker 3: I know who it's going to be. Who it's going
[28:51] Speaker 3: to be? Reggie Wayne. Hey, listen.
[28:55] Speaker 4: I seen the owner. I seen her over there taking notes, too. Yeah,
[29:00] Speaker 4: I told you what. Hey, yeah, I'm about to fire you.
[29:04] Speaker 4: I already got rid of your partner. I already got
[29:06] Speaker 4: rid of your partner last week. Hey, she run that
[29:10] Speaker 4: thing with an iron fist over there, ain't she, man?
[29:12] Speaker 3: Yes, she do. And she probably looking like, yes, let's see.
[29:17] Speaker 4: Quentin Nelson, he is one of the better guards, but
[29:19] Speaker 4: are we really going to pay him $ 30- plus million a year,
[29:25] Speaker 4: give him probably about $ 70 million guaranteed? What are we
[29:29] Speaker 4: going to do with Buck? Jonathan Taylor, we can get
[29:33] Speaker 4: probably second round. We can get some draft capital for
[29:36] Speaker 4: these guys. Because remember, They don't have a 2027 first-round pick.
[29:40] Speaker 4: That's Sauce Gardner. You traded two first round picks for
[29:45] Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner. He hurt dealing with a calf injury.
[29:53] Speaker 2: Well, hey, listen.
[29:55] Speaker 7: I'm putting it out there in the universe. If the
[29:57] Speaker 7: Colts want to rebuild, if they want to start over,
[30:00] Speaker 7: You want to give away some players and get some
[30:02] Speaker 7: assets to rebuild? Why not rebuild with your own player
[30:06] Speaker 7: that played for the organization? He knows what it takes
[30:09] Speaker 7: to win because he won while he was there.
[30:11] Speaker 3: Huh? Yeah. Reggie Wayne.
[30:14] Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne is the Colts' blue-head coach.
[30:17] Speaker 3: Thank you. You think so, Ocho?
[30:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense to me. Why not?
[30:24] Speaker 7: Someone you're comfortable with. Someone you already know. someone that
[30:28] Speaker 7: knows everyone that's already in that organization, in the community,
[30:34] Speaker 7: it makes sense to me. And then people say, oh,
[30:39] Speaker 7: he doesn't have any experience. Well, he has experience playing
[30:42] Speaker 7: the game of football. He has experience of being a winner.
[30:46] Speaker 7: He knows what it takes.
[30:48] Speaker 3: Experience only matters if I don't want to hire you.
[30:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you're right. Jeff Saturday didn't have experience either,
[30:53] Speaker 2: but they gave him an opportunity.
[30:56] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[30:57] Speaker 2: So I don't see why not.
[31:02] Speaker 3: I don't see why not either, but... Hold on. It's just,
[31:15] Speaker 3: I mean... I.
[31:18] Speaker 4: Don't know what they're going to do. But they're going
[31:20] Speaker 4: to have to make a decision. I think the trade
[31:22] Speaker 4: deadline is in a week. I think a week from Tuesday.
[31:27] Speaker 3: I think.
[31:29] Speaker 2: You think they'll make a trade in season?
[31:35] Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, yeah. I mean, you trade the capital. I mean,
[31:39] Speaker 1: you try to get something. These guys are free agents.
[31:45] Speaker 1: Unless you franchise them moving top of the market, you're
[31:48] Speaker 1: going to lose them. Would you rather get something for
[31:51] Speaker 1: them or lose them for nothing?
[31:53] Speaker 2: Get something for them. I mean, they're going to be
[31:55] Speaker 2: making some moves before the trade deadline then.
[31:58] Speaker 3: I believe they are.
[31:58] Speaker 2: Are they going to be mad? I got to pick up.
[32:04] Speaker 4: I'm saying, who are you giving up? You mean giving
[32:06] Speaker 4: up Taylor? You giving up the whole barn? I might
[32:10] Speaker 4: have to, Joe.
[32:12] Speaker 2: Damn.
[32:15] Speaker 4: I mean, it hurts. I mean, you gave up two
[32:19] Speaker 4: first-round picks for sauce.
[32:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:21] Speaker 4: You don't have a first-round pick in 27. You didn't
[32:24] Speaker 4: have a first-round pick in 26.
[32:29] Speaker 1: What did you give them? They traded Michael Pittman Jr.
[32:32] Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, I mean, what do you got? This year, Ocho,
[32:38] Speaker 1: they're probably not bringing him back. I think it's a reset.
[32:43] Speaker 1: I think you get a new staff. You're going to
[32:44] Speaker 1: have a new general manager. You're going to get a
[32:46] Speaker 1: reset and try to start this thing all back over again, Joe.
[32:49] Speaker 2: Damn.
[32:59] Speaker 1: I think the thing is that, you know, it's, I mean,
[33:03] Speaker 1: to trade two first-rounders for a corner Ocho, I mean,
[33:09] Speaker 1: if I'm trading a guy, I need a guy that
[33:12] Speaker 1: can score points, mainly a quarterback. or a hell-raiser defensive end,
[33:20] Speaker 1: a Myles Garrett, Aaron Donnell in his prime, J.J. Watt,
[33:23] Speaker 1: somebody like that, which I can't not for a corner, Joe.
[33:27] Speaker 7: You have to think what the Colts were at that time.
[33:30] Speaker 7: You have to think what they were at that time.
[33:32] Speaker 7: They felt that was the one missing piece that they
[33:33] Speaker 7: were needing or that they needed at that time.
[33:38] Speaker 3: I might have would agree with you if it was
[33:40] Speaker 3: his first or second year. Yeah.
[33:42] Speaker 7: I mean, but that's what they felt. You know, we're
[33:45] Speaker 7: one piece away. We're one piece away as well as
[33:48] Speaker 7: we're playing offensively. We think solidifying our defense, bringing Sauce,
[33:54] Speaker 7: it would do that. And then Brother Daniel Jones got hurt.
[34:00] Speaker 4: Eh.
[34:01] Speaker 3: Yep.
[34:02] Speaker 2: Messed up everything. They were playing really well.
[34:05] Speaker 3: Hey, hold up though.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Sauce ain't really been covering like how he was when
[34:09] Speaker 4: he was with the Jets or what, is he?
[34:11] Speaker 3: His first couple of years. Yeah. But hey, Joe, help
[34:14] Speaker 3: me understand this. Yeah.
[34:16] Speaker 1: You wouldn't give up two first-rounders for Matthew Stafford, but
[34:19] Speaker 1: you gave up two first-rounders for Saltz Gardner? Think about
[34:23] Speaker 1: what I want you to, before you answer, I want
[34:24] Speaker 1: you to think about what I said. You had an
[34:26] Speaker 1: opportunity to give up two first-rounders for a quarterback. Remember,
[34:31] Speaker 1: I just said, the guy that scores points. Or a
[34:34] Speaker 1: guy that can really, really get after the quarterback and
[34:38] Speaker 1: prevent him from scoring points. Two first-rounders for Matthew Stafford. Nah,
[34:44] Speaker 1: we good.
[34:45] Speaker 3: Two first-rounders for Saltz Gardner.
[34:48] Speaker 2: You heard me?
[34:49] Speaker 6: Huh?
[34:50] Speaker 7: Even though Matthew Stafford can impact a game more than
[34:52] Speaker 7: a defensive back, no matter how good that defensive back is,
[34:55] Speaker 7: how old is Matthew Stafford?
[34:58] Speaker 3: You got to realize, at the time, he was 33.
[35:00] Speaker 6: 33?
[35:00] Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford's like 38 now.
[35:11] Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about back there.
[35:12] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah. You're right. Oh, Rams ain't trading to
[35:16] Speaker 3: you now. You had your opportunity.
[35:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gone.
[35:26] Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford is 38.
[35:29] Speaker 4: 38.
[35:38] Speaker 3: And you had an opportunity to get it.
[35:46] Speaker 1: As somebody that's made some mistakes about investing, you know,
[35:54] Speaker 1: had the opportunity to get Bitcoin when it was $ 200, Joe.
[36:00] Speaker 1: Had an opportunity to get in on Netflix when it
[36:03] Speaker 1: was like $ 20.
[36:06] Speaker 3: Google. I understand about missed opportunities.
[36:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
[36:12] Speaker 1: I understand about it. Hey, man, if I'd had that
[36:20] Speaker 1: Bitcoin and Googling stuff, I don't know, Joe.
[36:22] Speaker 3: I don't know. Nightcap.
[36:24] Speaker 1: Another episode of Nightcap brought to you by ISO and Ocho.
[36:28] Speaker 4: It would have never even been no damn nightcap hell
[36:31] Speaker 4: if you.
[36:32] Speaker 3: Hey, I.
[36:36] Speaker 1: Am your host, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, and my co-host,
[36:41] Speaker 1: Iso Joe Johnson.
[36:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you were going to leave us because of
[36:46] Speaker 2: the money, though?
[36:48] Speaker 3: But you do rely on me to be here.
[36:52] Speaker 7: Hey, but even if you was a billionaire, we do
[36:54] Speaker 7: this show for the love, for the love of the game, man.
[36:58] Speaker 2: Huh? We do this thing for the love of the game.
[37:00] Speaker 2: We love talking to the people.
[37:02] Speaker 1: Ash, I'm going to cut my iPad off if you
[37:05] Speaker 1: keep typing on my iPad. Asked about you to being
[37:07] Speaker 1: so bored.
[37:11] Speaker 2: Hey, all that money don't mean nothing you got nobody
[37:14] Speaker 2: to share with, huh?
[37:16] Speaker 4: I got a few, you know, I got a little something,
[37:19] Speaker 4: you know, something stewing.
[37:22] Speaker 3: No, I know.
[37:22] Speaker 2: I'm saying they had that money. Ash is right.
[37:25] Speaker 7: You would be bored because think about today, huh? Being
[37:29] Speaker 7: amongst the fans, you know, back in the days, you know.
[37:32] Speaker 3: Oh, man.
[37:33] Speaker 2: Back in town, the Raven fans, you know. Like, you
[37:36] Speaker 2: would miss out on that.
[37:38] Speaker 3: Hold on. Joe, didn't he just tell me I had
[37:40] Speaker 3: a cup of coffee? I wasn't no Raven. He did.
[37:42] Speaker 2: He did.
[37:43] Speaker 1: That's what he tell me all the time. He said
[37:44] Speaker 1: I wasn't going to believe it. Now he talking about, man,
[37:46] Speaker 1: the guy that was digging out there was riding you.
[37:47] Speaker 3: I thought I wasn't going to believe it. It's different.
[37:49] Speaker 4: He's seen how the fans interact. He's seen the love,
[37:53] Speaker 4: the reception that you got.
[37:55] Speaker 3: He couldn't help it.
[37:56] Speaker 2: I love the reception you got. He was still only
[37:58] Speaker 2: here for two days.
[38:01] Speaker 7: You have to understand the impact that he had when
[38:04] Speaker 7: he was here. Even though it was for a short
[38:06] Speaker 7: amount of time, but that's the love you get.
[38:09] Speaker 2: You have the impact. Sometimes you ain't got to be
[38:12] Speaker 2: nowhere long and you leave an everlasting impression.
[38:17] Speaker 3: Hello. I got a chance to see Ozzy.
[38:19] Speaker 1: I got a chance to see two people I actually
[38:23] Speaker 1: knew when I was here.
[38:24] Speaker 3: Val and Patty.
[38:25] Speaker 1: They're still here, but everybody else is obviously Tessendorf, Eddie Carroll,
[38:30] Speaker 1: rest his soul, the equipment manager, he done passed away.
[38:32] Speaker 1: But ain't a whole lot of front office people that
[38:36] Speaker 1: I knew that are still here. And so, actually, this
[38:41] Speaker 1: is my first time to get back to watch a.
[38:43] Speaker 3: Game since I left.
[38:45] Speaker 2: Damn, huh?
[38:48] Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, I worked.
[38:49] Speaker 1: You got to realize, I went straight to CBS, and
[38:52] Speaker 1: then I left PBS, and I was off a year,
[38:54] Speaker 1: and then I went to Fox.
[38:55] Speaker 4: And then I went to ESPN for two years, and
[38:57] Speaker 4: now I'm doing night camp. And it's hard. People don't understand.
[39:01] Speaker 4: And I was at the game, and I wanted to stay.
[39:03] Speaker 1: But it's hard to be at a game and watch
[39:05] Speaker 1: a game when you've got to critique and talk.
[39:07] Speaker 3: About seven, eight, nine, ten games.
[39:11] Speaker 1: And people are like, man, because me at this game
[39:13] Speaker 1: watching the Ravens, I'm not going to only talk about
[39:16] Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Bengals.
[39:17] Speaker 3: I've got to talk about the Falcons and the 49ers.
[39:19] Speaker 3: I've got to talk about this. I've got to talk
[39:20] Speaker 3: about that.
[39:21] Speaker 1: I've got to talk about Cleveland and the Titans.
[39:24] Speaker 3: And so it's just hard.
[39:25] Speaker 1: And so for me, and I don't want I don't
[39:27] Speaker 1: want to do the people that tune in the nightcap.
[39:30] Speaker 1: I don't want them to do, do, do them a
[39:31] Speaker 1: disservice by bull jiving my way.
[39:34] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this happened. No, no. I actually watched the game. Right.
[39:37] Speaker 1: I came back, had a game on TV and then
[39:40] Speaker 1: had the rest of the other games on my iPad.
[39:42] Speaker 3: Yeah. That's, that's how I do it. I just, I can't,
[39:46] Speaker 3: I can't.
[39:47] Speaker 4: And much as I want to, you know, Hey, I
[39:50] Speaker 4: get invited back to a lot of stuff. I get
[39:51] Speaker 4: invited to Ravens game, get invited to Bronco games. I just,
[39:56] Speaker 4: I can't do it. I take, I take what I
[39:59] Speaker 4: do too serious. Hey, it was a hell of a
[40:03] Speaker 4: way for them Ravens to start the game off though, boy.
[40:06] Speaker 3: That first.
[40:06] Speaker 4: Hey, that was, you see that? I'm talking about, you
[40:09] Speaker 4: couldn't have drew it up better than that.
[40:11] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[40:13] Speaker 2: They got them Z flowers, boy.
[40:15] Speaker 6: Ooh.
[40:16] Speaker 3: That joke was so quick, man. That joke was start
[40:18] Speaker 3: and stop speed.
[40:19] Speaker 2: Hey, dangerous, boy. He one of them ones, boy. Hey,
[40:25] Speaker 2: hold on. You know where you're from, too, huh?
[40:27] Speaker 3: Where you from? Where you from?
[40:29] Speaker 2: Huh?
[40:29] Speaker 3: You a Florida boy? What?
[40:32] Speaker 2: What you mean? Where you think you got all that from?
[40:36] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[40:37] Speaker 2: Hey, that's what we do. We built like that.
[40:39] Speaker 3: You hear me? Okay. All right. Okay.
[40:48] Speaker 4: Yeah, that joke started to start. Hey, that joke caught
[40:50] Speaker 4: that jailbreak screen.
[40:51] Speaker 3: It was out. Hey, he was gone.
[40:53] Speaker 2: I was mad.
[40:56] Speaker 3: We know.
[40:56] Speaker 2: Hey, I was hot. Like, wait a minute. The game
[40:59] Speaker 2: just started.
[41:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, he just scored.
[41:03] Speaker 1: The Steelers defeated the Saints in the first ever game
[41:05] Speaker 1: in Paddy.
[41:06] Speaker 3: What a game for Aaron Rodgers, 19-30. 2-12, one touchdown.
[41:08] Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers passed with 540, passed Peyton Manning, 539. with
[41:15] Speaker 1: the third most regular season passing touchdowns in NFL history.
[41:20] Speaker 1: How impressed have you been with a 42-year-old Aaron Rodgers
[41:24] Speaker 1: knowing this is going to be, or he says, is
[41:27] Speaker 1: going to be his last year?
[41:28] Speaker 2: Man, he coming back, man.
[41:30] Speaker 3: You think he'll come back?
[41:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, he coming back, man.
[41:33] Speaker 7: Because there's no door that they can open where they're
[41:39] Speaker 7: going to find another quarterback.
[41:40] Speaker 2: So Aaron Rodgers is going to play the long game
[41:42] Speaker 2: like he does in the offseason.
[41:43] Speaker 3: They're 5-2.
[41:44] Speaker 7: They're playing really well right now. Listen, are they at
[41:48] Speaker 7: the top of the division? They first or no?
[41:51] Speaker 3: They're behind Cleveland because Cleveland beat them.
[41:53] Speaker 2: Okay, because Cleveland did beat them.
[41:54] Speaker 3: That's right.
[41:54] Speaker 2: But still, they're playing well.
[41:56] Speaker 7: Now, I'm sure there's some answers that he might want
[41:59] Speaker 7: at the receiver position to be able to have a
[42:02] Speaker 7: little bit more security there at that position if he
[42:05] Speaker 7: is to come back.
[42:06] Speaker 2: But they don't have an answer at the quarterback position.
[42:08] Speaker 2: So even at 43, which he'll be next year, he
[42:11] Speaker 2: still has a leverage. He still has the leverage. Because
[42:15] Speaker 2: anyone else that is out there that might be younger,
[42:18] Speaker 2: they're not going to be playing any better than this.
[42:23] Speaker 7: A 43 or 42 Aaron Rodgers is still better than.
[42:28] Speaker 2: Man, I don't mean to be disrespectful. But, I mean,
[42:31] Speaker 2: it's just the truth. It's just facts.
[42:34] Speaker 3: I don't think... He can still swing it. Yeah, yeah.
[42:38] Speaker 3: I don't think he's playing bad, Uncle Ocho.
[42:40] Speaker 4: I think when you look at their run game, The kid,
[42:43] Speaker 4: Jalen Warren, I think he makes life a lot easier
[42:46] Speaker 4: for Aaron Rodgers, bro.
[42:48] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[42:48] Speaker 4: You get a good run game, and I think Aaron
[42:51] Speaker 4: Rodgers is smart enough to know, you know, stay out
[42:54] Speaker 4: of harm's way and get that ball out quick.
[42:56] Speaker 3: He's probably the best at that, but I agree with you, Ocho.
[42:59] Speaker 4: I can't really see nobody else coming in who's going
[43:01] Speaker 4: to be better than him right now at this moment.
[43:03] Speaker 2: No.
[43:06] Speaker 1: The question is, is that does he want to come
[43:09] Speaker 1: back and subject himself? You know, he said his wife said, hey,
[43:11] Speaker 1: they had a car. He sat down with his wife.
[43:13] Speaker 1: They had a conversation. She said, hey, I support you.
[43:16] Speaker 1: Go back and play one more year. The question is,
[43:19] Speaker 1: and he said it was one more year. This is
[43:20] Speaker 1: going to be a last year, but he has a
[43:21] Speaker 1: right to change his mind. Playing as well as he's playing,
[43:25] Speaker 1: having to play for something. They smack dab in the
[43:28] Speaker 1: middle of a division hunt. And so who knows?
[43:32] Speaker 3: But.
[43:34] Speaker 4: I would, if, you know, if I were to bet,
[43:36] Speaker 4: I'd probably bet that he calls it a career after this.
[43:39] Speaker 3: That's what I said. He probably would.
[43:41] Speaker 2: Depends.
[43:42] Speaker 3: Because let me ask you this, Ocho.
[43:45] Speaker 1: What are the realistic chances the Steelers can win the
[43:50] Speaker 1: Super Bowl?
[43:51] Speaker 3: Can get to or win the Super Bowl?
[43:53] Speaker 7: Their defense would have to be playing lights out, huh?
[43:56] Speaker 7: Their defense would have to be playing lights out.
[44:02] Speaker 4: Because at this point in time, Him passing Peyton Manning,
[44:06] Speaker 4: him doing all.
[44:06] Speaker 3: Bro, he got four MVPs. He got 500-plus touchdowns.
[44:10] Speaker 1: He has the greatest touchdown-to-interception ratio in NFL history.
[44:17] Speaker 3: What's he playing for? He's got money.
[44:19] Speaker 4: He's made probably $ 400 million. I don't know, $ 400 million,
[44:23] Speaker 4: $ 300- plus million.
[44:24] Speaker 3: He's made all the money that he needs. The question is,
[44:29] Speaker 3: what's he playing for?
[44:31] Speaker 1: If he throws another 20 touchdowns, Does that change the
[44:34] Speaker 1: way you view Aaron Rodgers?
[44:37] Speaker 3: No.
[44:37] Speaker 4: He has another 2,000, 3,000 yards. Does that change the
[44:40] Speaker 4: way you view Aaron Rodgers?
[44:42] Speaker 3: No. At some point in time when you're that accomplished, if.
[44:47] Speaker 1: It's not a championship that's at the end of the tunnel,
[44:50] Speaker 1: why are we doing this?
[44:52] Speaker 3: Hold up, though.
[44:53] Speaker 4: It's some cast man who thoroughly just enjoys still playing
[44:56] Speaker 4: the game, though.
[44:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do that when you ain't getting the
[44:59] Speaker 3: hell beat at you.
[45:00] Speaker 1: When they put the pelvis in your back, Joe, for you,
[45:02] Speaker 1: you can fairly enjoy the game. But when they try
[45:06] Speaker 1: to tear your damn head off, ain't no enjoyment in that.
[45:15] Speaker 3: We'll see. Hey, right now the weather's really, really nice.
[45:19] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[45:19] Speaker 1: Because we know, hey, the weather gets really cold in Pittsburgh.
[45:24] Speaker 1: It gets really cold in Cincinnati. It gets really cold
[45:27] Speaker 1: in Cleveland. It gets really cold in Baltimore. So now,
[45:32] Speaker 1: you ain't really got no more warm weather games.
[45:34] Speaker 3: Yeah. See, Tom was smart. Tom was like, man, if
[45:39] Speaker 3: I'm leaving New England, I'm going somewhere warm. Tampa. Tampa.
[45:46] Speaker 3: They play indoors in New Orleans. They play indoors in Atlanta.
[45:49] Speaker 4: I'm playing eight home games in Tampa.
[45:52] Speaker 3: It ain't going to be cold. I might get some rain.
[45:55] Speaker 1: And then Carolina might be my coldest game. So I
[45:59] Speaker 1: know at least 11 of my 16, 17 games, I'm Gucci. Now,
[46:06] Speaker 1: if we got to play the Dolphins, we play the Rams,
[46:10] Speaker 1: we play the Cardinals, they indoors. Ocho, now I got
[46:13] Speaker 1: 13 of my 17 games. an ideal climate situation. Man,
[46:18] Speaker 1: I'm telling you, boy, as you start to get old up, Joe, hey,
[46:23] Speaker 1: the world be like, oh, man. I be looking at
[46:25] Speaker 1: the schedule. Oh, boy, we got Miami in December. Oh,
[46:28] Speaker 1: we got San Diego in December.
[46:30] Speaker 3: Ooh, yes. Arizona in December.
[46:34] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[46:35] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[46:38] Speaker 1: Hey, that West Suburban, hey, and that cold. I was like, man,
[46:42] Speaker 1: I sure hope we go. Because we didn't go inside.
[46:44] Speaker 1: We got cold. I don't know how y'all did, though, Joe.
[46:47] Speaker 1: We was outside. Bro, we going to Miami. What's the
[46:51] Speaker 1: likelihood it's going to be 10 degrees in Miami?
[46:54] Speaker 4: It ain't going to be 10.
[46:57] Speaker 3: We outside.
[46:58] Speaker 2: On the other hand, Tyler shook. It was 30 of 38. 278.
[47:04] Speaker 1: One touchdown, one interception. The problem that they had, Tyler
[47:14] Speaker 1: Shook led the team in Russia. With seven yards.
[47:23] Speaker 2: Damn.
[47:28] Speaker 3: Miller had six yards. Kamara had five yards. How is.
[47:33] Speaker 7: This is the one game I wasn't able to see.
[47:37] Speaker 2: I don't understand how that happened.
[47:40] Speaker 3: How many attempts Kamara had.
[47:45] Speaker 1: Well, we was watching it, and look, Ocho, you played
[47:52] Speaker 1: the Steelers. You was in that division. I played the Steelers.
[47:55] Speaker 1: They don't let you run the football. You run for
[47:58] Speaker 1: 100 yards on the Steelers, you've actually done something.
[48:01] Speaker 2: Holy, you run for 100 on the Steelers or the Ravens,
[48:03] Speaker 2: especially back then.
[48:04] Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
[48:06] Speaker 2: Man, please.
[48:11] Speaker 4: Let me see right quick. Six attempts for five yards.
[48:19] Speaker 3: That's crazy.
[48:21] Speaker 2: A whole game?
[48:22] Speaker 3: Kamara, yeah. Yeah, they couldn't run the ball worth nothing. Nothing.
[48:29] Speaker 1: Steelers don't let you, but they try to make you one-dimensional.
[48:33] Speaker 1: They make you one-dimensional now they can pin their ears
[48:35] Speaker 1: back and come get you.
[48:37] Speaker 2: Stingy.
[48:43] Speaker 3: I was like, man. Tyler Shook, I don't know, bro.
[48:52] Speaker 3: I mean, but asking him. Hey, Drew. Oh, my goodness. Tyler.
[49:03] Speaker 1: They only had 17 rush attempts. They had 17 rush
[49:08] Speaker 1: attempts for 18 yards.
[49:11] Speaker 3: And you know what?
[49:13] Speaker 7: When the running game isn't working and you keep trying it,
[49:17] Speaker 7: And they keep stuffing it, you go away from the
[49:19] Speaker 7: running game, which is probably why they only had 17
[49:21] Speaker 7: rush attempts. And if you had any success in the
[49:24] Speaker 7: running game, you'd have more than 17 attempts. But the
[49:27] Speaker 7: fact that you're getting stuffed, and obviously I'm assuming you're
[49:31] Speaker 7: playing behind.
[49:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, how you say it?
[49:35] Speaker 3: Behind the what? Behind the eight ball? Yeah.
[49:41] Speaker 7: Yeah, behind the eight ball. No, it's another word you use, too.
[49:43] Speaker 7: When it's like second and 12.
[49:46] Speaker 3: Oh, behind the sticks.
[49:47] Speaker 2: Behind the sticks. That's what I was trying to say.
[49:48] Speaker 2: That's the word. Behind the sticks. Playing behind the sticks,
[49:52] Speaker 2: you get away from that run.
[49:53] Speaker 3: Hey, but hold on. Tyler Shook, he ain't had no
[49:55] Speaker 3: bad numbers, though, Uncle Ocho.
[49:57] Speaker 2: Now, he was throwing that thing, Joe?
[49:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, 30 for 38, 278 yards. He just had that
[50:02] Speaker 4: bad pick he threw. I think they were in the
[50:04] Speaker 4: red zone.
[50:06] Speaker 3: Yes. I think he was in the end zone, don't you, Joe?
[50:13] Speaker 2: And how come, what were the receivers? He threw for 278, but... Nah,
[50:17] Speaker 2: it balanced.
[50:18] Speaker 3: 57, Brown, Kamara had 57, Olave had 56, Vili has 54. Okay,
[50:21] Speaker 3: I see it now. Yeah, nothing to

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