# 231. Can The NHS Afford The UK-US Pharma Deal?

An episode of [The Rest Is Money](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1703785141), 4 Dec 2025, 52 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT8441197698.mp3?updated=1764805217

Why is the NHS paying more for new medicines? Will the government at last buy from British tech companies? How can the UK life sciences be more entrepreneurial? Lord Patrick Vallance, the government's Science, Innovation Research & Nuclear Minister (and former Chief Scientific Advisor), joins Robert and Steph to talk about trade deals, scale-up finance and how investing in the Oxford-Cambridge corridor might mean growth for the whole country. Visit: https://www.gov.uk/teachinfurthereducation to find out more. Download the app to experience Blacklane yourself: https://blacklane.onelink.me/PVgS/pa5yx0q7 Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney https://goalhanger.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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