# Warren Haynes: Gov’t Mule, Allman Brothers & Iconic Classic Rock History”-Music Interview

An episode of [Music Saved Me Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1703080557), 11 Nov 2025, 25 min.

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Join us for a musician interview podcast episode of Takin A Walk-Music History on foot hosted by Buzz Knight with legendary guitarist, vocalist, and songwriter Warren Haynes. Known for his iconic work with Gov’t Mule, The Allman Brothers Band, and countless collaborations, Warren opens up and reveals the inside music stories about his journey from the small towns of North Carolina to the biggest stages in rock and blues. In this music history podcast, we explore Warren’s approach to songwriting, his philosophy on improvisation, and what it means to keep the spirit of Southern rock alive while constantly pushing creative boundaries. He shares iconic inside stories from the road, discusses his influences ranging from classic soul to psychedelic rock, and reflects on the importance of musical community and music history. Warren also talks about his annual Christmas Jam benefit concert, his passion for mentoring young musicians, and how he’s maintained his artistic integrity across decades in the music industry. Whether discussing tone, technique, or the transcendent moments that happen when a band truly connects, Warren offers wisdom gained from a lifetime dedicated to his craft. Enjoy his deep dive into the mind of one of rock’s most respected and soulful iconic guitarists. Accolades: Rolling Stone Magazine ranked Warren Haynes as the 23rd greatest guitarist in their “100 Greatest Guitarists” Warren Haynes is described as a Grammy Award-winning artist who has been recognized as a cornerstone of the American music landscape and revered as one of the finest guitar players in the world. Warren Haynes is part of music history. Guitar Player magazine has praised his tastefulness as a lead guitar player, noting that few guitarists can match it, and that while others could play rings around him technically, he’s proven that the magic of blues guitar isn’t always about virtuosity Takin’ A Walk: In-depth music interviews exploring the stories and music history behind the songs Support the show: https://musicsavedme.net/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://musicsavedme.net/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. We were never trying to second guess
[0:04] Speaker 1: what we thought people expected from us, or what the
[0:07] Speaker 1: music business expected from us. We just were making decisions
[0:12] Speaker 1: based on what seemed like the most.
[0:14] Speaker 2: Fun Humpus night and welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast.
[0:18] Speaker 2: You know, there's a very short list of musicians who
[0:21] Speaker 2: can claim they've been a part of three of the
[0:23] Speaker 2: greatest live bands in rock history. Okay, let me be
[0:27] Speaker 2: more precise. There's really only one person who could make
[0:31] Speaker 2: that claim, and I'm talking about the bands The Allman
[0:34] Speaker 2: Brothers Band, Government Mule and the Dead. Today on Taking
[0:39] Speaker 2: a Walk, I'm joined by that singular force, the Grammy
[0:43] Speaker 2: winning guitar legend, songwriter and producer Warren Haynes. He's been
[0:49] Speaker 2: on quite a journey lately. After nearly a decade away
[0:53] Speaker 2: from solo work, he returned in twenty twenty four with
[0:57] Speaker 2: a Million Voices whisper he Ren with Derek Trucks in
[1:01] Speaker 2: the studio for the first time since the Almond Brothers
[1:04] Speaker 2: Band's final Bow to Finish lyrics that Greg Alman had started.
[1:09] Speaker 2: Also Government Mules, celebrating thirty years of blistering rock and roll.
[1:14] Speaker 2: Let's talk to the man next Warren Haynes, I'm taking
[1:18] Speaker 2: a walk, taking a walk, Warren Haynes, Welcome to the
[1:25] Speaker 2: Taking a Walk Podcast.
[1:27] Speaker 1: Good to be back.
[1:28] Speaker 2: So we throw this little opening question out there, Warren.
[1:34] Speaker 2: It's one that sometimes mystifies people and the answers go
[1:39] Speaker 2: all over the place. So I'm not gonna let you
[1:41] Speaker 2: get away with with not trying to answer this one,
[1:46] Speaker 2: mister Warren Haynes, if you could take a walk with
[1:48] Speaker 2: someone living or dead, who would you take a walk with?
[1:51] Speaker 2: And where might you take that walk with them?
[1:53] Speaker 1: Sir? Wow, Uh, that's sure. As a tough we would
[1:58] Speaker 1: probably check change every day for like seventeen days in
[2:03] Speaker 1: a row. If you ask me that question, that's that's
[2:07] Speaker 1: a great question. I mean, Jimmy Hendrix, I don't know.
[2:12] Speaker 1: I guess that is as good an answer as any.
[2:16] Speaker 1: I have a long list of people that would qualify
[2:20] Speaker 1: for that wish list. Where would that be? Maybe Central
[2:26] Speaker 1: Park in New York.
[2:28] Speaker 2: It's all good. Those are all perfect answers. This is
[2:31] Speaker 2: the thing. There's no right or wrong to the question,
[2:35] Speaker 2: And to your point, it can change by the day,
[2:39] Speaker 2: for sure.
[2:40] Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know, because people ask me a
[2:44] Speaker 1: lot about favorite albums, favorite artists and if the lists
[2:50] Speaker 1: are so long that you know, it depends on what
[2:53] Speaker 1: mood I'm in, what creeps up to the top of
[2:56] Speaker 1: the list on any given day. I get it.
[2:59] Speaker 2: I get it. We had this chap on the podcast
[3:03] Speaker 2: previously named Devin Almond and had a wonderful chat with him,
[3:09] Speaker 2: and it's funny. I was just remembering the interview and
[3:13] Speaker 2: I wanted to I wanted to validate it. And we
[3:17] Speaker 2: can talk about AI separately, but I went to this
[3:19] Speaker 2: thing called Claude AI and I said, during the Devin
[3:24] Speaker 2: Almond Taking a Walk episode, tell me what was discussed
[3:29] Speaker 2: about Warren Haynes. And it came back like a flood
[3:34] Speaker 2: of great energy. Not a flood is the wrong word,
[3:38] Speaker 2: it said, Yes. Devin Almond brought up Warren Haynes multiple
[3:41] Speaker 2: times on the Taking a Walk podcast. He discussed sitting
[3:43] Speaker 2: in with the Almond brothers and described having to stand
[3:47] Speaker 2: between Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks or Warren Haynes and
[3:50] Speaker 2: Dicky Betts while playing songs like One Way Out, calling
[3:54] Speaker 2: them the Jedi Masters of guitar. And I even think
[4:01] Speaker 2: he texted you in the midst of the interview, asked
[4:03] Speaker 2: you a question, but how does it make you feel
[4:07] Speaker 2: being referred to as one of the Jedi Masters of
[4:09] Speaker 2: guitar by Devin.
[4:11] Speaker 1: Well, that's quite a confliment. You know. When I joined
[4:17] Speaker 1: the Allman Brothers in nineteen eighty nine, it brought on
[4:23] Speaker 1: such an overwhelming amount of recognition and acceptance and respect
[4:30] Speaker 1: and reverence, because you know, I was a huge Allman
[4:33] Speaker 1: Brothers fan my entire life, and I assumed that other
[4:38] Speaker 1: people were as well. But I came to realize the
[4:44] Speaker 1: amount of respect that comes with being in that band,
[4:49] Speaker 1: not just by listeners but fellow musicians. You know, every
[4:55] Speaker 1: door imaginable open for me at that point, and every
[5:00] Speaker 1: musician that I would meet that I had grown up
[5:05] Speaker 1: listening to and admiring when instantly put me on a
[5:13] Speaker 1: level of respect, you know. And that's in some ways,
[5:19] Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't expecting that or prepared for that,
[5:22] Speaker 1: but the Allman Brothers music touched so many people, but
[5:27] Speaker 1: among musicians, you know, the the amount of respect that
[5:31] Speaker 1: fellow musicians have for that music is pretty uncanny.
[5:35] Speaker 2: I remember that period, that early period when you when
[5:39] Speaker 2: you joined, and in fact was fortunate enough I live
[5:42] Speaker 2: outside of Boston, so I was fortunate enough when you
[5:45] Speaker 2: came through for one of those amazing It was called
[5:49] Speaker 2: Great Woods back then, and so I saw those early days,
[5:55] Speaker 2: and I saw the band's performance, and I saw your work.
[6:00] Speaker 2: How did you make that integration into the band appear
[6:05] Speaker 2: so easy?
[6:07] Speaker 1: Well, I think it had a lot to do with
[6:09] Speaker 1: the fact that I was in Dickie Betts's band for
[6:14] Speaker 1: two or three years prior, and he and I had
[6:17] Speaker 1: spent all that time kind of honing in our thing,
[6:21] Speaker 1: and we had really learned how to play together in
[6:26] Speaker 1: a great way. And it also forced me to kind
[6:31] Speaker 1: of up my game in a lot of different ways,
[6:34] Speaker 1: regarding my tone, my style, my note selection, how to
[6:39] Speaker 1: come across on a bigger stage, and playing next to
[6:43] Speaker 1: him night after night after night was intimidating, but it
[6:47] Speaker 1: was also the best lesson possible for me to be
[6:52] Speaker 1: prepared for joining a band like the Almer Brothers. So
[6:57] Speaker 1: by the time eighty nine roll around it and I
[7:00] Speaker 1: found myself and the Almand Brothers, I had had that
[7:03] Speaker 1: initiation and learning period. There was still a lot of
[7:07] Speaker 1: learning to be done, but I felt more relaxed and
[7:13] Speaker 1: ahead of the curve a little bit, you know, And
[7:17] Speaker 1: the fact that they allowed me from day one to
[7:21] Speaker 1: interject my own personality. You know, they were very good
[7:24] Speaker 1: about saying, hey, we chose you to play like you.
[7:29] Speaker 1: You know, we don't expect you to play more or
[7:34] Speaker 1: less like Duwayne Almend than you choose to play at
[7:38] Speaker 1: any moment. You're here to be yourself. And that was
[7:42] Speaker 1: very important because you know, I was very influenced by
[7:46] Speaker 1: Dwayne Alban, but I also didn't want to be copying
[7:49] Speaker 1: what he had done, and that's not what they wanted either.
[7:52] Speaker 1: They wanted somebody that had reverence for that music, but
[7:57] Speaker 1: that would bring their own personality. And I think in
[7:59] Speaker 1: hind that music demands that you.
[8:03] Speaker 2: Did a beautiful job of it. I really admire the
[8:06] Speaker 2: way you made that all work. An incredible fan. So,
[8:11] Speaker 2: after nearly a decade away from solo albums, what made
[8:15] Speaker 2: this the right moment for you to return with a
[8:19] Speaker 2: Million Voices Whisper? What changed your life or perspective that
[8:24] Speaker 2: sparked this particular collection.
[8:27] Speaker 1: Well, I think it was mostly the COVID lockdown, and
[8:33] Speaker 1: not just because of the emotional impact that it had
[8:36] Speaker 1: on everyone, but because it forced songwriters to go into
[8:42] Speaker 1: hibernation and write more music. Than any of us had
[8:45] Speaker 1: written in decades, you know, and for speaking for people
[8:49] Speaker 1: that have been writing songs for a long time, I
[8:52] Speaker 1: wrote more music during that time period than I've written
[8:55] Speaker 1: since I was probably thirty years old or something, and
[8:59] Speaker 1: it wound up turning into two Government Mule records. But
[9:04] Speaker 1: then I also had all these songs that I had
[9:06] Speaker 1: written that didn't seem like government mule songs, which inspired
[9:10] Speaker 1: me to keep writing in that direction and record Million
[9:14] Speaker 1: Voices Whisper. You know, I only do a solo record
[9:17] Speaker 1: when it seems like I've written enough songs that work
[9:24] Speaker 1: together that kind of want to be part of a
[9:30] Speaker 1: collection of songs, but they don't necessarily sound like government
[9:34] Speaker 1: mule songs. Are going back to when the all my
[9:36] Speaker 1: brothers were recording that don't sound like all my brothers songs.
[9:40] Speaker 1: You know, some of these songs obviously could be interpreted
[9:44] Speaker 1: that way, but they all have their own kind of
[9:49] Speaker 1: vibe and personality and fit together. So I really attribute
[9:53] Speaker 1: it mostly to that, and I'm I'm glad that I
[9:58] Speaker 1: was able to find the the positive in such a
[10:01] Speaker 1: dark time period.
[10:03] Speaker 2: And as someone who has just been you know, the
[10:07] Speaker 2: epitome of a live performer and you and others like you.
[10:12] Speaker 2: That must have been just like chopping your arm off.
[10:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, to know that we couldn't travel, we couldn't tour,
[10:21] Speaker 1: we couldn't perform on stage, and wondering in the back
[10:27] Speaker 1: of all of our minds when and if that's going
[10:31] Speaker 1: to change. You know, we all thought, is this the
[10:34] Speaker 1: new normal, the new music business where people aren't going
[10:38] Speaker 1: to be willing to be in live crowds like that?
[10:43] Speaker 1: And that that was a scary factor because that's what
[10:46] Speaker 1: we do. So as soon as we were able to
[10:51] Speaker 1: be around each other, we're all vaccinated and willing to
[10:55] Speaker 1: go into the studio, we just decided, Well, the path
[10:58] Speaker 1: forward were for us was to go make a couple
[11:02] Speaker 1: of records back to back and kind of feel normal again.
[11:07] Speaker 2: I want to talk about the special Real Real Love
[11:14] Speaker 2: including lyrics, you know, initially started by Greg Allman and
[11:17] Speaker 2: brought you back into the studio with Derek Trucks for
[11:21] Speaker 2: the first time since the Allman brother Band had the
[11:24] Speaker 2: final sunset. Take us inside the session and what it
[11:29] Speaker 2: meant for you to complete Greg's words.
[11:34] Speaker 1: Well, let's go back to I got an email from
[11:39] Speaker 1: Bert Holman, who's the Alma brothers manager Love Burt, and
[11:42] Speaker 1: he had photo copied the handwritten lyrics that Greg had
[11:48] Speaker 1: written for that song and sent it to me and said, hey,
[11:52] Speaker 1: do you remember this song? And I remembered Greg showing
[11:57] Speaker 1: it to me, but we never worked on and he
[12:00] Speaker 1: never completed it. It just got put on the back burder.
[12:05] Speaker 1: But it all started coming back to me when I
[12:08] Speaker 1: saw the lyric and it was incomplete and there was
[12:13] Speaker 1: no music as far as anyone knows. So I instantly
[12:21] Speaker 1: started writing music for it. And then I started tweaking
[12:24] Speaker 1: the lyric and and and wrote some additional lyrics to it,
[12:31] Speaker 1: and it all came about really quickly. So I called
[12:34] Speaker 1: Derek and told him about it, and I said, I
[12:37] Speaker 1: really think we should record this song together, and of
[12:41] Speaker 1: course he was very into that idea. And then the
[12:46] Speaker 1: talk turned to, well, why don't we get together and
[12:48] Speaker 1: write some other songs and maybe think about recording half
[12:53] Speaker 1: of an album or something, you know, because in my
[12:56] Speaker 1: mind I was inspired to make another solo, so I
[13:01] Speaker 1: talked to him about maybe co producing some stuff with me.
[13:06] Speaker 1: Initially it was going to be at his studio in Florida,
[13:10] Speaker 1: but his studio was under construction and wasn't going to
[13:13] Speaker 1: be ready in the timeframe that we needed, so we
[13:18] Speaker 1: decided to just bring him up to Connecticut where we
[13:22] Speaker 1: were recording the other stuff. And it was great to
[13:25] Speaker 1: have him in the studio for those three days. And
[13:30] Speaker 1: we spent three days at his farm in Georgia writing
[13:33] Speaker 1: and then three days in the studio recording, and a
[13:36] Speaker 1: lot of magical stuff happened, real real love. You know,
[13:41] Speaker 1: it sounds a little tried or cliche or cheesy to say,
[13:46] Speaker 1: but Greg's presence was felt through that entire process, you know,
[13:52] Speaker 1: and the fact that Derek and I are in the
[13:54] Speaker 1: same room would sing I'm singing, and he's trading with
[14:00] Speaker 1: me on the slagh guitar, and we're recording live as
[14:04] Speaker 1: it should be. It just all came together in a
[14:09] Speaker 1: really wonderful way, and that kind of inspired us to
[14:14] Speaker 1: want to do a lot more stuff to go.
[14:16] Speaker 2: I love it, And I was going to ask you,
[14:18] Speaker 2: did you feel the presence of Greg? So you answered
[14:22] Speaker 2: the follow up question because I would imagine that that
[14:26] Speaker 2: would be possible.
[14:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. And I wanted to for
[14:35] Speaker 1: the first time ever to honor someone else's style to
[14:42] Speaker 1: that extent, you know, down to the chord changes and
[14:47] Speaker 1: the melody, and the way I approached the vocal harmonizing
[14:53] Speaker 1: with myself and the intro similar to what he did
[14:57] Speaker 1: on some of the songs on Laid Back. It gave
[15:01] Speaker 1: me the perfect reason to go a little further down
[15:06] Speaker 1: that path than I normally would. As far as utilizing
[15:09] Speaker 1: someone else's influence.
[15:12] Speaker 2: It's fantastic. Then there's this little band called Government Mule,
[15:17] Speaker 2: which is celebrating thirty three to zero, thirty years since
[15:21] Speaker 2: that self titled debut. What is the secret to that
[15:26] Speaker 2: band's longevity?
[15:29] Speaker 1: Good question. I think probably the fact that we all
[15:34] Speaker 1: know that we have a unique chemistry in the way
[15:37] Speaker 1: we play together and we all still get along, which
[15:41] Speaker 1: is pretty uncanny for a band that's been going as
[15:46] Speaker 1: long as we have. And I think part of it
[15:49] Speaker 1: is also that since we didn't start out as a
[15:54] Speaker 1: real band. We started out as a side project to
[15:57] Speaker 1: the Almen Brothers, thinking that we are going to make
[15:59] Speaker 1: one record, do a short too, or then get back
[16:02] Speaker 1: to life as normal. It kind of caught fire and
[16:07] Speaker 1: took off on its own, and so we were faced
[16:10] Speaker 1: with the challenge of making decisions about our future one
[16:16] Speaker 1: step at a time. You know, whatever felt good at
[16:19] Speaker 1: that moment, That's what we did. And we were never
[16:22] Speaker 1: trying to second guess what we thought people expected from
[16:26] Speaker 1: us or what the music business expected from us. We
[16:30] Speaker 1: just were making decisions based on what seemed like the
[16:33] Speaker 1: most fun and knowing that, you know, this might be
[16:38] Speaker 1: our last record. We didn't know we were going to
[16:40] Speaker 1: make a second record, or a third record, or a
[16:42] Speaker 1: fifth record, or now we have thirteen studio records. We're
[16:48] Speaker 1: about to play our twenty five hundredth show in a
[16:53] Speaker 1: few days, And that's just something I never would have
[16:58] Speaker 1: ever guessed.
[17:00] Speaker 2: Congratulations, my god. I want to talk about community, and
[17:05] Speaker 2: in particular after the terrible Hurricane Helene, the Christmas Jam,
[17:12] Speaker 2: which was an amazing act of generosity and bringing community
[17:17] Speaker 2: together and soul shine in particular. I mean they you
[17:21] Speaker 2: know at the garden with Dave Matthews and so many others.
[17:25] Speaker 2: What did that teach you, maybe that you already didn't
[17:28] Speaker 2: know about the power of community and how music is
[17:33] Speaker 2: so important.
[17:35] Speaker 1: Well, it brought into focus and solidified my belief that
[17:40] Speaker 1: musicians loved to give back because not solely because but
[17:49] Speaker 1: partially because we all appreciate and are extremely grateful to
[17:57] Speaker 1: be able to do what we love for a living,
[18:00] Speaker 1: and so something as easy as playing music on a
[18:06] Speaker 1: night off to raise money for charity, it's so much
[18:10] Speaker 1: easier than people might expect because that's what we do.
[18:15] Speaker 1: Musicians love to play music, whether it's work or behind
[18:20] Speaker 1: the scenes or whatever the case, and it reminds us
[18:23] Speaker 1: all of why we started playing music in the first place.
[18:28] Speaker 1: It was for the joy of doing it, and so
[18:30] Speaker 1: if you can turn that into helping others in your community,
[18:35] Speaker 1: it's just not only a win win, but it's an
[18:38] Speaker 1: easy thing to do. And that's why I encourage people
[18:42] Speaker 1: to get involved and charity work, not if it's a hassle,
[18:49] Speaker 1: but find a way of doing it that works with
[18:52] Speaker 1: your life and that makes you feel better. That Soul
[18:57] Speaker 1: Shine experience at Madison Square Garden was fantastic, and we
[19:01] Speaker 1: knew that the music was going to be special. Be
[19:04] Speaker 1: those people coming together to help other people always is.
[19:09] Speaker 2: There was another special Medicine Square Garden moment, Little Moment
[19:14] Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the Brothers showing up at that amazing venue.
[19:20] Speaker 2: What did that moment mean to you?
[19:24] Speaker 1: Well, you know, Jamo was the catalyst for that, bringing
[19:29] Speaker 1: us all back together. He called everybody and said we
[19:33] Speaker 1: need to play and everybody agreed that. Everybody was instantly
[19:40] Speaker 1: on board, and we knew in twenty twenty when we
[19:44] Speaker 1: did the one show right before COVID it was an
[19:49] Speaker 1: extremely special thing, emotional but cathartic and inspiring, and that
[19:56] Speaker 1: group of musicians playing that music is just special. Doesn't
[20:02] Speaker 1: do it justice. You know, we all felt it even
[20:05] Speaker 1: more than any of us expected right from the beginning
[20:08] Speaker 1: of the rehearsals, and this time around, doing two nights,
[20:13] Speaker 1: it seemed even a step beyond where we were in
[20:17] Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It just felt so natural and so beautiful
[20:21] Speaker 1: and so much the right thing to do for ourselves,
[20:27] Speaker 1: for the audience. You know, it was just two nights
[20:32] Speaker 1: of music that I'll cherish forever.
[20:35] Speaker 2: So you've been a Gibson man your whole career, and
[20:39] Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five you finally got your signature Less Paul.
[20:46] Speaker 2: What took so long?
[20:47] Speaker 1: Well, it's a bit confusing because I we Gibson worked
[20:52] Speaker 1: with me in the past on a signature Less Paul
[20:55] Speaker 1: and on a signature is three thirty five that they
[20:57] Speaker 1: were limited edition, and this is the first time we're
[21:01] Speaker 1: making them readily available, which means a lot, because I
[21:05] Speaker 1: think it's wonderful that a young guitar player or not
[21:09] Speaker 1: so young guitar player can take my suggestion that I
[21:14] Speaker 1: think you might enjoy playing this guitar. It's beautiful, it
[21:17] Speaker 1: sounds great, it plays great, it's it's comfortable in my hands.
[21:23] Speaker 1: And if someone uses that as a reason to try
[21:27] Speaker 1: it out and and really loves it, then then that's
[21:30] Speaker 1: that's an amazing thing. And yeah, you're right. I've been
[21:33] Speaker 1: a Gibson guy my entire life. My first decent guitar
[21:38] Speaker 1: was a Gibson and almost every guitar I've played since then.
[21:44] Speaker 2: So you've worked with everybody from from Dave Matthews to
[21:49] Speaker 2: the Dolly Parton to Chris Stapleton to the Grateful Dead Family.
[21:56] Speaker 2: What do you personally look for when you consider that
[22:00] Speaker 2: art of collaboration.
[22:02] Speaker 1: Well, it has to be something that I enjoy. I'm
[22:07] Speaker 1: lucky enough at this point in my career and have
[22:10] Speaker 1: been for quite some time to be busy enough to
[22:15] Speaker 1: where I'll always do something if it's appealing to me.
[22:19] Speaker 1: You know, in the old days when I was doing
[22:22] Speaker 1: studio work, when I first started out, you take every
[22:26] Speaker 1: session that comes along the way, regardless of how you
[22:29] Speaker 1: feel about it musically or emotionally. But I was fortunate
[22:34] Speaker 1: enough to make the decision that that's not what I
[22:37] Speaker 1: want to do. I want to play my music and
[22:40] Speaker 1: pursue what I love, and I've been fortunately successful with that.
[22:46] Speaker 1: And so now if a situation comes around that is
[22:51] Speaker 1: really appealing to me, I'll make time to do it.
[22:54] Speaker 1: But otherwise my schedule is pretty packed, so whenever I
[22:59] Speaker 1: do something, it has my stamp of group.
[23:02] Speaker 2: So in closing the subtitle for a Million Voices, Whisper
[23:07] Speaker 2: could be questioning, certainly, how to make things better in
[23:11] Speaker 2: love and in life, in the in the world, at
[23:16] Speaker 2: this stage of your great career in life, what are
[23:18] Speaker 2: the biggest questions that you're wrestling with and can you
[23:24] Speaker 2: share with how music has sort of helped you find
[23:27] Speaker 2: some of those answers.
[23:29] Speaker 1: Well, speaking for myself, you know, how to be a
[23:33] Speaker 1: better person, a better father, a better friend, a better husband,
[23:41] Speaker 1: a better artist and musician and singer and songwriter. You know,
[23:46] Speaker 1: I think those of us who choose to do what
[23:49] Speaker 1: we love are it's a blessing, you know, but we
[23:54] Speaker 1: also put a lot of pressure on ourselves. You know
[23:58] Speaker 1: and so, and that's a good thing. In healthy doses,
[24:04] Speaker 1: it's definitely a good thing. But I also feel like
[24:08] Speaker 1: people have to come together at this point to make
[24:11] Speaker 1: the world a better place. It's not going to happen
[24:15] Speaker 1: if we're waiting on politicians to change it. It's going
[24:19] Speaker 1: to be up to the people to demand that we
[24:23] Speaker 1: make the world a better place and a more loving
[24:25] Speaker 1: and caring place and leave the planet in good shape
[24:31] Speaker 1: for children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. You know, I
[24:36] Speaker 1: know that answer went all over the map, but I
[24:38] Speaker 1: kind of feel like that's where my head is these days.
[24:42] Speaker 2: I am so grateful for this opportunity to sync back
[24:46] Speaker 2: up with you and talk to you. Such a fan,
[24:50] Speaker 2: and so grateful for all you continue to give us warnings,
[24:54] Speaker 2: and thank you for being on the Taking a Walk podcast,
[24:56] Speaker 2: and thank you for everything.
[24:58] Speaker 1: My pleasure good to see it.
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