# Classic Music Saved Me with Singer Songwriter LØLØ

An episode of [Music Saved Me Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1703080557), 4 Oct 2025, 18 min.

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LØLØ is a Canadian born singer-songwriter joining Lynn Hoffman on this episode of Music Saved Me and she tells her story about the power of music. Support the show: https://musicsavedme.net/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Music Saved Me.
[0:01] Speaker 2: I only had my first tour in twenty twenty one,
[0:04] Speaker 2: so just like a few years ago now, and then
[0:07] Speaker 2: I would meet people after the merch booth and they
[0:09] Speaker 2: say like, oh, like this really, I feel like you
[0:12] Speaker 2: wrote this about me, or like this really touched me.
[0:14] Speaker 2: And then I guess I kind of realized, like, whoa,
[0:18] Speaker 2: I guess I'm affecting people. And it was a little
[0:21] Speaker 2: bit surprising to me because I just never like experienced
[0:24] Speaker 2: that or knew that that was possible in that way.
[0:26] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Music Saved Me, the podcast where we
[0:30] Speaker 1: explored the transformative power of music and the stories of
[0:33] Speaker 1: artists who have found hope, healing, and connection through their art.
[0:37] Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today we are joined
[0:39] Speaker 1: I'm so excited by a truly special guest, Lolo Now.
[0:43] Speaker 1: Lolo is a singer, songwriter and rising pop powerhouse. We're
[0:48] Speaker 1: talking like thirty five million streams already on that's just
[0:51] Speaker 1: on Spotify alone. Her raw honesty, her infectious melodies, and
[0:56] Speaker 1: the way she turns real life heartbreak into hope and
[0:59] Speaker 1: into forgettable songs is like nothing I've ever heard before.
[1:03] Speaker 1: My personal fave Hot Girls in Hell and it's just unbelievable.
[1:08] Speaker 1: From our early days as a self proclaimed theater kid
[1:11] Speaker 1: in Toronto to making waves on TikTok and touring with
[1:14] Speaker 1: pop punk legends, Lolo's journey is literally as inspiring as
[1:19] Speaker 1: her music is now. Whether you're a lifelong fan or
[1:22] Speaker 1: just discovering Lolo, where have you been? This conversation is
[1:25] Speaker 1: a testament to the power of music to save, connect,
[1:28] Speaker 1: and uplift us all. So turn up the volume and
[1:31] Speaker 1: join us as we dive in to the story of
[1:34] Speaker 1: how music saved Lolo. Lolo, welcome to Music Save Me.
[1:38] Speaker 1: I'm so psyched to meet you.
[1:39] Speaker 2: Hello, it's nice to meet you. Thank you so much
[1:42] Speaker 2: for having me.
[1:43] Speaker 1: Can you share a little bit about your musical journey
[1:45] Speaker 1: with our listeners? What first drew you to music as
[1:49] Speaker 1: a form of expression.
[1:52] Speaker 2: Well, I guess it would be a mix of two things.
[1:55] Speaker 2: I don't know how I ended up with this as
[1:57] Speaker 2: a child, but I just remember my first was a
[2:00] Speaker 2: Green Day CD. He was an American idiot and I
[2:04] Speaker 2: just used to like be obsessed with that. I was
[2:06] Speaker 2: obsessed with that and Averri Levigne. But at the same
[2:09] Speaker 2: time I was also a huge theater kid, and I
[2:13] Speaker 2: remember I was like in all these like I used
[2:16] Speaker 2: to watch actually Shirley Temple videos with my grandfather and
[2:20] Speaker 2: I just like wanted to be her. I happened to
[2:22] Speaker 2: have the exact same hair as her, my natural hairs
[2:25] Speaker 2: really curly wow, and at the time it was short
[2:28] Speaker 2: and curly, and I was like, oh, I have to
[2:31] Speaker 2: just be that. And so I like begged my mom
[2:32] Speaker 2: to put me into singing lessons and tap dancing lessons
[2:35] Speaker 2: and acting classes. So that kind of is where I
[2:38] Speaker 2: started out. So I was like this, like liked punk music,
[2:41] Speaker 2: I guess, but also like super theater kid, so it
[2:45] Speaker 2: was kind of like a mix of both, which I
[2:48] Speaker 2: guess kind of you know, makes sense of the person
[2:51] Speaker 2: I am today.
[2:52] Speaker 1: So yeah, but Shirley Temple, I mean that's that was
[2:55] Speaker 1: very unexpected answer.
[2:57] Speaker 2: Yeah. I yeah. My grandfather used to show me all
[2:59] Speaker 2: of it, and I was like obsessed with her. I
[3:01] Speaker 2: thought she was so cool. Her and Billy dar Armstrong.
[3:04] Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, those yeah.
[3:06] Speaker 1: Perfect combinations, Like who would have ever put that together.
[3:09] Speaker 1: That's like not chocolate and peanut butter at all.
[3:11] Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's so random, But like I think
[3:14] Speaker 2: it really did end up affecting me in like I
[3:18] Speaker 2: feel like I was influenced by both of those things,
[3:22] Speaker 2: and I feel like today i'm kind of just like
[3:25] Speaker 2: you know, I like to rock out, but very emotional
[3:27] Speaker 2: and dramatic and so just.
[3:30] Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, what's the most interesting or unexpected
[3:35] Speaker 1: place your music has taken you so far?
[3:38] Speaker 2: Hmmm? Interesting, like like actual place that I've visited. Yeah, Well, actually,
[3:44] Speaker 2: I just found out today that I'm going to be
[3:45] Speaker 2: going to Newfoundland, which I'm super excited about because, as
[3:50] Speaker 2: I said, theater kid and I love the play Come
[3:52] Speaker 2: from Away. I think it's amazing. So I'm really excited
[3:55] Speaker 2: to do that because I heard that like you actually
[3:57] Speaker 2: get to go and kiss the fish and do all
[3:59] Speaker 2: that stuff. So I would say that is an unexpected
[4:03] Speaker 2: but very exciting thing that I'm doing. But I mean
[4:08] Speaker 2: music has taken me all over. Look, I've into so
[4:10] Speaker 2: many cities in Europe and all over the US, Canada,
[4:15] Speaker 2: but I mean, for some reason, Newfoundland just sticks out
[4:18] Speaker 2: as cool. Yeah, unexpected.
[4:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, You're about to embark on a massive US tour,
[4:24] Speaker 1: that is what I heard has sold out. That's an
[4:27] Speaker 1: incredible feat for a new artist, Like that's huge. Yeah,
[4:31] Speaker 1: does that make you nervous at all or are you
[4:33] Speaker 1: excited to?
[4:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, well so I actually I did my US tour
[4:38] Speaker 2: but which was sold out, so that already happened. But
[4:41] Speaker 2: I have a US tour this summer with simple Plan
[4:44] Speaker 2: opening for them, which was another one of my idols
[4:46] Speaker 2: growing up, so it's just so exciting. But for my
[4:49] Speaker 2: own show, like, yeah, I had so much anxiety, honestly
[4:52] Speaker 2: because I have been an opener so many times and
[4:55] Speaker 2: I wasn't sure, like can I sell tickets to my
[4:57] Speaker 2: own show because you never really know, like you don't
[4:59] Speaker 2: know if you like passive listeners or their fans of you,
[5:02] Speaker 2: but you know they'll go to see you open for someone,
[5:05] Speaker 2: but they don't necessarily want to go to your own show.
[5:07] Speaker 2: So yeah, I was a little stressed out putting that
[5:09] Speaker 2: up for sale. But it all sold out and it
[5:12] Speaker 2: went amazing, and it was honestly even more rewarding obviously
[5:17] Speaker 2: than opening because it was like my own show. All
[5:19] Speaker 2: of the whole room was filled with my fans. You know,
[5:22] Speaker 2: everyone is screaming my lyrics, So it was quite the experience.
[5:26] Speaker 1: I bet congratulations on that.
[5:28] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[5:29] Speaker 1: Do you have a go to song or artist that
[5:31] Speaker 1: always lifts your spirits when you need it or when
[5:34] Speaker 1: you're having a bad day.
[5:36] Speaker 2: Honestly, I kind of go back to that Green Day
[5:38] Speaker 2: record that was my first CD. I don't know if
[5:41] Speaker 2: it's because like it's nostalgic, as when I listened to it,
[5:45] Speaker 2: I kind of like feel like a little kid that
[5:47] Speaker 2: had no worries because I was like a seven year
[5:49] Speaker 2: old and it kind of reminds me of that. Maybe,
[5:53] Speaker 2: but that is definitely something like normally, if I'm ever
[5:57] Speaker 2: upset or stressed, I kind of just like press plan
[5:59] Speaker 2: American Idiot and listen to it front to back. Also
[6:03] Speaker 2: really random, the song Grace Kelly by Mika always gets
[6:07] Speaker 2: me going. I know that's such a random answer whenever
[6:10] Speaker 2: people ask me that, but there's just something about that
[6:12] Speaker 2: song I really like.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Well, speaking of something about that song, you have a
[6:16] Speaker 1: new EP out called Possibilities.
[6:19] Speaker 2: That was the deluxe version of my album that got
[6:22] Speaker 2: released called Falling for Robots and Wishing I Was One,
[6:25] Speaker 2: but Possibility was the single.
[6:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, great artwork on that, by the way, not just
[6:29] Speaker 1: so much the video, the artwork on the album, which
[6:32] Speaker 1: which like these are just small details that get so
[6:34] Speaker 1: lost nowadays that are coming back and I'm I'm so
[6:37] Speaker 1: grateful to you for doing that. Can you tell us
[6:40] Speaker 1: a little about the song.
[6:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, So the song is basically about the possibility of
[6:46] Speaker 2: someone hurting you because you know, you're kind of scarred
[6:50] Speaker 2: from before and you've found someone that you're into or
[6:56] Speaker 2: in love with or whatever and it's going great, but
[6:58] Speaker 2: there's just like this little voice of the back of
[7:00] Speaker 2: your head that's like, well, you know, they could hurt you.
[7:03] Speaker 2: They it could end up terrible, and it kind of
[7:06] Speaker 2: starts to almost taint and ruin like something that's good.
[7:10] Speaker 2: And it's kind of like about that battle within yourself
[7:12] Speaker 2: to you know, you should just be able to relax
[7:16] Speaker 2: and be like I'm happy now, everything's fine, but like
[7:19] Speaker 2: sometimes I know I have this a lot, like there's
[7:21] Speaker 2: just this boys in the back of my head being like, well,
[7:23] Speaker 2: it could go wrong any second now, And so it's
[7:26] Speaker 2: kind of about that. It's about like I'm in a
[7:29] Speaker 2: happy relationship now, and something about that is really scary
[7:34] Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, any second he has the power
[7:37] Speaker 2: to just like hurt me, and something about that is
[7:41] Speaker 2: really terrifying.
[7:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, I when you mentioned that, I think anyone can
[7:46] Speaker 1: go back in their life and think about moments like that,
[7:49] Speaker 1: and you know it is scary. It's scary to take
[7:52] Speaker 1: a risk on someone else. Yes, And you just explain
[7:57] Speaker 1: that so beautifully in your songwriting. How do you coach
[8:00] Speaker 1: writing or performing music either or when maybe you might
[8:05] Speaker 1: be experiencing something like that emotional or a mental health challenge.
[8:10] Speaker 2: Honestly, I try to just be like as authentic as
[8:12] Speaker 2: possible and just kind of go for it where like
[8:15] Speaker 2: and not hide anything and kind of just like put
[8:18] Speaker 2: myself fully out there. I find that to be like
[8:21] Speaker 2: the most therapeutic for me, and like it ends up
[8:26] Speaker 2: I'm gonna say ironically, but I guess it's not ironic,
[8:28] Speaker 2: but like it ends up being the most therapeutic for
[8:30] Speaker 2: my audience too. When I do that, and when I
[8:33] Speaker 2: like just you know, write exactly what I'm feeling and
[8:36] Speaker 2: not try to sugarcoat it or you know, water it
[8:38] Speaker 2: down or anything, I feel like that's when people relate
[8:42] Speaker 2: the most weirdly. I mean not weirdly. I guess that
[8:45] Speaker 2: makes sense, But in my head I would be like, oh,
[8:47] Speaker 2: maybe this is too much whatever, maybe I shouldn't say this,
[8:50] Speaker 2: But I feel like anytime I just end up going
[8:52] Speaker 2: for it. It just kind of works.
[8:55] Speaker 1: Oh, you go for it. I think that's what really
[8:57] Speaker 1: gets people is that you're you're so list thank you
[9:01] Speaker 1: not only just in your writing, but in your performance
[9:04] Speaker 1: of the song. You're telling us exactly how we're feeling.
[9:09] Speaker 1: Did you know that, That's what I mean? When was
[9:12] Speaker 1: the first time you've sort of realized that your music
[9:13] Speaker 1: really touched on that nerve and people.
[9:16] Speaker 2: I guess I didn't. I didn't realize that honestly until
[9:20] Speaker 2: I started performing the songs and meeting the fans after.
[9:23] Speaker 2: So like I only had my first tour in twenty
[9:26] Speaker 2: twenty one, so just like a few years ago now,
[9:29] Speaker 2: and then I would meet people after at the merch
[9:31] Speaker 2: booth and they would say like, oh, like this really
[9:34] Speaker 2: I feel like you wrote this about me, or like
[9:36] Speaker 2: this really touched me. And then I guess I kind
[9:39] Speaker 2: of realized, like, whoa, I guess I'm affecting people. And
[9:43] Speaker 2: it was a little bit surprising to me because I
[9:45] Speaker 2: just never like experienced that or knew that that was
[9:48] Speaker 2: possible in that way. And it's funny because I used
[9:53] Speaker 2: to try to write songs like I used to make
[9:55] Speaker 2: a conscious effort back in the day, like I need
[9:58] Speaker 2: to make this relatable and like what people would understand.
[10:01] Speaker 2: And I feel like I did try to like dumb
[10:02] Speaker 2: it down or water it down, and I wasn't going
[10:04] Speaker 2: into such specifics with my older music. And then when
[10:07] Speaker 2: I you know, hawkgirls in Hell for example, what you mentioned,
[10:10] Speaker 2: I'm so specific talking about such a specific person and
[10:14] Speaker 2: such a specific instance. And I feel like that was
[10:16] Speaker 2: the first song that everyone was like, you wrote this
[10:19] Speaker 2: about my ex, like this, how how are you in
[10:23] Speaker 2: my brain? And I'm like, wow, that was like the
[10:24] Speaker 2: most specific first verse ever, and for some reason it
[10:28] Speaker 2: really hit people. So now I'm just like, Okay, I
[10:31] Speaker 2: guess we all kind of lived a shared experience or
[10:35] Speaker 2: something about being specific to me just hits people. I
[10:39] Speaker 2: guess like they could see it for themselves, which is
[10:42] Speaker 2: really cool.
[10:43] Speaker 1: So that's I think called being completely authentic, like thank you.
[10:48] Speaker 1: There's no you know, fake stuff for you know, like
[10:51] Speaker 1: you said, watering it down to it must have been
[10:55] Speaker 1: a shocking moment for you to realize that though, that
[10:57] Speaker 1: you could be that raw and real and not worry
[11:00] Speaker 1: about the consequences and feel that back at you. But
[11:03] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old, and that song took me back
[11:07] Speaker 1: to when I was, you know, in high school and
[11:10] Speaker 1: you know, this guy was being a total jerk, and
[11:13] Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what to do about it,
[11:15] Speaker 1: and you know, I can only imagine the experiences that
[11:18] Speaker 1: you had, but it definitely spoke to me years later.
[11:21] Speaker 1: So there's your.
[11:22] Speaker 2: Audience right there. Well, I love that. I love to
[11:24] Speaker 2: hear that. Hate to hear about that guy, but love
[11:26] Speaker 2: to hear it that you.
[11:27] Speaker 1: I know, who cares whatever happened to him? What was?
[11:32] Speaker 1: What would you says a pivotal moment in your life
[11:35] Speaker 1: that you know shaped who you are as an artist?
[11:38] Speaker 1: Age can you pinpoint any one moment?
[11:41] Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like this first headline tour that I
[11:44] Speaker 2: just did, so it started in October of twenty twenty four,
[11:48] Speaker 2: so just like six months ago. I guess that was
[11:51] Speaker 2: the first time that I kind of really like, I've
[11:54] Speaker 2: I've performed sets before like thirty forty minutes, but that
[11:57] Speaker 2: was the first time that I really, I think, like
[11:59] Speaker 2: brought my album to life and like made a show
[12:02] Speaker 2: of all my music and you know it kind of
[12:05] Speaker 2: like had a story all to it. And that was
[12:08] Speaker 2: the first time that I like looked out into the
[12:09] Speaker 2: audience of full filled with people that were there to
[12:12] Speaker 2: just see me and that were connecting with my music,
[12:16] Speaker 2: and I was kind of like looking out and I
[12:19] Speaker 2: remember like the first night, I was really fucking nervous,
[12:23] Speaker 2: so I was like, oh my god, Like I get
[12:26] Speaker 2: really bad imposter syndrome. I'm always like, oh, well, this
[12:29] Speaker 2: isn't This isn't a real concert because I'm performing, So
[12:32] Speaker 2: there's no way, Like this isn't the kind of concert
[12:34] Speaker 2: that I would go to because I'm performing, so it's
[12:37] Speaker 2: like a fake concert. It's like not as professional. I
[12:40] Speaker 2: always think that in my head for some reason. But
[12:43] Speaker 2: I was kind of just like, Nope, this is a concert,
[12:46] Speaker 2: and I was. I would every night before I went
[12:48] Speaker 2: on stage. I started the first night because it made
[12:50] Speaker 2: me feel better. But I would just picture like young me,
[12:53] Speaker 2: like dancing in the basement or singing performing to my
[12:56] Speaker 2: parents the Green Day record and just her freaking out
[13:00] Speaker 2: and being like, oh my god, like are we doing this?
[13:02] Speaker 2: Are we about to get on stage in front of
[13:03] Speaker 2: all those people? And I'm like, yeah, you got this girl.
[13:06] Speaker 2: And then I would go on stage and it would
[13:08] Speaker 2: just really help me with the nerves and stuff, just
[13:12] Speaker 2: be like I got this. I got this, But that
[13:14] Speaker 2: was a really pivotal moment. I think that I realized, like,
[13:17] Speaker 2: oh look, I actually this is a real concert and
[13:19] Speaker 2: I'm a real artist and I can't have imbuster syndrome.
[13:23] Speaker 2: So I would say that that whole tour would be
[13:27] Speaker 2: the moment. Yeah, especially that first show in October.
[13:31] Speaker 1: Do you think music has healing powers?
[13:35] Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, Like, no doubt. I mean I
[13:38] Speaker 2: hear it from everyone, And even if I didn't hear
[13:41] Speaker 2: it from people about my music, I know, like I
[13:43] Speaker 2: have personally been there with other people's music. So like,
[13:47] Speaker 2: it's so interesting doing this and being on this side
[13:51] Speaker 2: of things because I feel like for so long, like
[13:53] Speaker 2: growing up, I was on the other side, and I
[13:55] Speaker 2: was a fan and I was going to concerts and
[13:56] Speaker 2: I was like getting saved by other people's music. So
[13:59] Speaker 2: that's why really like HiT's even harder to think that
[14:04] Speaker 2: I could possibly be that person for other people, because
[14:08] Speaker 2: like I know how it feels to be on the
[14:09] Speaker 2: other side, and I'm like, holy shit, And that's where
[14:13] Speaker 2: the impostor syndrome really comes from, because it's crazy to think,
[14:18] Speaker 2: like it almost sounds like cocky to say, or like
[14:21] Speaker 2: weird to say, like, yeah, I'm affecting people, Like, that's
[14:24] Speaker 2: a weird sentence to say for me, because I feel
[14:26] Speaker 2: like I've been on the other side.
[14:28] Speaker 1: So no, the impostor thing I can relate to. I
[14:32] Speaker 1: had a job once in television years ago, VH one,
[14:36] Speaker 1: and I was so scared I almost called them to
[14:39] Speaker 1: tell them I didn't want to come in because I
[14:40] Speaker 1: felt like I was an impostor. I told my whole family,
[14:43] Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just reading a script here, i don't
[14:45] Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. No, it happens to a
[14:48] Speaker 1: lot of people, and you're not. That's not an unusual thing.
[14:52] Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you're past that now, because wow,
[14:55] Speaker 1: you are not an impostor. What inspires you to keep
[14:59] Speaker 1: creating even even on the hard days, like when it's
[15:01] Speaker 1: really hard to even be inspired.
[15:04] Speaker 2: I would say, just well, there's a few things. One
[15:08] Speaker 2: kind of knowing that there there's other people wanting me
[15:13] Speaker 2: to create and waiting for me to create, which is
[15:16] Speaker 2: a little bit like pressure. I feel like sometimes I
[15:19] Speaker 2: feel like, oh, like, what would happen if I just
[15:21] Speaker 2: like quit music today? There would be a lot of
[15:22] Speaker 2: people that would be sad or like expecting things for me,
[15:26] Speaker 2: but then that's also not healthy because I need to
[15:29] Speaker 2: do things also for me. But what inspires me to
[15:33] Speaker 2: keep going, I guess and creating on days that I
[15:35] Speaker 2: don't want to create, is that, like I feel like
[15:38] Speaker 2: creating is the only thing that kind of makes me
[15:41] Speaker 2: feel better. So when I am in those slums of
[15:44] Speaker 2: like not wanting to work, or feeling uninspired and just
[15:48] Speaker 2: like feeling mentally not there or like down or whatever,
[15:53] Speaker 2: I know that writing it out is honestly going to
[15:56] Speaker 2: make me feel better. So just creating in general ends
[15:59] Speaker 2: up doing the trick always for me. I just like
[16:02] Speaker 2: am that kind of person, I guess, So that would
[16:05] Speaker 2: probably be the main thing.
[16:07] Speaker 1: And what messages do you hope listeners take away from
[16:10] Speaker 1: your music, you know, especially those who might be facing
[16:12] Speaker 1: their own challenges. What would you like them to know?
[16:15] Speaker 2: I hope they know that it's just like they're not
[16:18] Speaker 2: alone in any of this. We're all kind of going
[16:20] Speaker 2: through it in our different ways. And you know, my
[16:22] Speaker 2: whole album that I put out last year, it's called
[16:26] Speaker 2: Falling for Robots and Wishing I was one, And it's
[16:28] Speaker 2: about like either having experiences with people who don't seem
[16:32] Speaker 2: to have a heart, or wishing that you kind of
[16:34] Speaker 2: didn't have such a big heart yourself, because sometimes it's
[16:37] Speaker 2: really hard to feel things so hard, and it's like
[16:40] Speaker 2: I wish I was just a little bit more numb
[16:42] Speaker 2: so I could just like go through life and I
[16:43] Speaker 2: could be a robot. But I feel like the whole
[16:47] Speaker 2: theme of the album and something a message that I
[16:49] Speaker 2: really want to push through is that like it's okay
[16:52] Speaker 2: to feel things. It's okay to not be perfect and
[16:56] Speaker 2: to just have all these emotions or be sensitive because
[17:00] Speaker 2: that is what makes us human and it's normal and
[17:04] Speaker 2: that's just life. So I hope that they listen to
[17:08] Speaker 2: the songs and realize that they're not a robot. They
[17:11] Speaker 2: are a human and we're not perfect and we feel
[17:14] Speaker 2: things and that's okay.
[17:16] Speaker 1: Well, that's a beautiful thing to end this podcast with today.
[17:20] Speaker 1: It is truly an honor to be able to talk
[17:22] Speaker 1: to you, and I'm gosh so excited to watch your
[17:25] Speaker 1: star continue to rise, although I do I'm not sure
[17:27] Speaker 1: that there's much room to go up any higher, I hope, so,
[17:31] Speaker 1: but keep that energy that you have and don't lose it,
[17:34] Speaker 1: because it's always hard when you feel like you have
[17:36] Speaker 1: to reinvent yourself, but when you're truly authentic like you,
[17:39] Speaker 1: you're never going to have a problem with that. Best
[17:42] Speaker 1: of luck to you, Lo Lo. Thanks for coming on music,
[17:45] Speaker 1: save me and keep in touch for sure.
[17:47] Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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