# Bringing My iMac to the Club w/ Benny Blanco

An episode of [Bombing with Eric Andre](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1700594299), 24 Jan 2024, 43 min.

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Eric and music producer Benny Blanco shoot the breeze about bombing in the music industry. They start talking about the early days of producing music, the MySpace days, finding your music heroes, hauling an iMac around to DJ sets, performing terribly in front of people, and trying to sneak into Hollywood parties. Plus, a story about Kanye West and other celebrities. BUY MY NEW BOOK Dumb Ideas TODAY! Rate and Review Bombing with Eric Andre here Do you like listening to Bombing and want extended conversations with more bombing stories every week? Then check out Big Money Players Diamond, a new subscription available exclusively on Apple Podcasts, where you can get exclusive material from all my interviews for the show, plus 100% ad-free episodes every week. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday and Happy Bombing with Eric Andrey May I
[0:05] Speaker 1: talk on the third person because my ego is out
[0:07] Speaker 1: of control. My podcast is called Bombing's where I talk
[0:13] Speaker 1: to friends, comedians, musicians and more creative types about being
[0:17] Speaker 1: humiliated on stage or at life, which is a very
[0:20] Speaker 1: sad thing for everyone involved. I got to talk to
[0:22] Speaker 1: talented record producer and songwriter Benny Blanco. He gives us
[0:26] Speaker 1: a glimpse of bombing in the music industry and his
[0:28] Speaker 1: personal tales of eating shit in front of an audience
[0:30] Speaker 1: and his fellow peers. As always, please subscribe to the
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[0:42] Speaker 1: Let's get into.
[0:42] Speaker 2: It, Bombing Bombing with Eric and Andre.
[0:52] Speaker 1: Soo is your biggest bomb or some bombing stories?
[0:56] Speaker 3: I have so many?
[0:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you're like autopilot.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, a few one of them. It's
[1:03] Speaker 3: like I'm like eighteen years old. We're like on I'm
[1:07] Speaker 3: we're like performing for the first time. I'm like getting
[1:09] Speaker 3: like free drink. I'm getting blacked out every time because
[1:12] Speaker 3: I never had, like I've only had like like you
[1:16] Speaker 3: drink like out of someone's like your parents like liquor cabin.
[1:20] Speaker 3: It has like a quarter of a bottle of triple
[1:22] Speaker 3: Sex from like six years ago. Yeah, it's like disgusting.
[1:25] Speaker 3: You have like you guys Split one mad Dog, except
[1:29] Speaker 3: with like eight people special. It's fucking disgusting, disgusting. So
[1:35] Speaker 3: like finally I'm like getting alcohol. I'm playing with spank
[1:40] Speaker 3: Rock Amanda Blank. I'm at this like fader thing and
[1:43] Speaker 3: it's like this is so yeah, we're like the king.
[1:46] Speaker 1: Did you ever go to college? No, not a day. No, No.
[1:50] Speaker 3: I went to an audio engineering school for like four
[1:52] Speaker 3: months but dropped out, and ever since I'm the only
[1:56] Speaker 3: one of my everyone to college except me and my family.
[1:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:00] Speaker 3: So I'm like, so I remember, I'm I'm at the
[2:02] Speaker 3: show and I'm getting like fully blacked out, like like
[2:07] Speaker 3: like so drunk, and I remember I start djank and
[2:09] Speaker 3: I was like I didn't have like I didn't have
[2:12] Speaker 3: money like that, so I literally would bring I didn't
[2:14] Speaker 3: have a laptop, so I bring an iMac.
[2:18] Speaker 1: To the club, a big purple plastic like a huge iMac.
[2:24] Speaker 3: To the club, and I would like and I was
[2:26] Speaker 3: so bad. Yeah, it was crazy, and I was so
[2:28] Speaker 3: bad at djank and basically I'm with one of my
[2:31] Speaker 3: friends and we're like so hyped and we're like dancing
[2:33] Speaker 3: and stuff and basically like I accidentally turned the bpm
[2:37] Speaker 3: so like, for people who don't know what that is, like,
[2:39] Speaker 3: I made the song incredibly fast, like like one hundred
[2:43] Speaker 3: bpm Steward, So it was like so before it was
[2:45] Speaker 3: like and then was like and I was like and
[2:49] Speaker 3: and I couldn't stop it because my friend spilled a
[2:52] Speaker 3: drink all over the keyboard, the laptop or the fucking computer,
[2:56] Speaker 3: whatever the fuck it is. The so I'm so I'm
[3:00] Speaker 3: sitting there and it's so fast and like spank rock
[3:04] Speaker 3: here's like things, and they all just went along with
[3:07] Speaker 3: it so like and they like did it and nobody
[3:11] Speaker 3: even noticed, and they were so mad.
[3:15] Speaker 1: You were rapping and.
[3:18] Speaker 3: Then and they were rapping and it was like it
[3:20] Speaker 3: was during my DJ said, they like came out and
[3:22] Speaker 3: like did a special thing. Basically that night, I get
[3:26] Speaker 3: so wasted. I get so unbelievably wasted that they kicked
[3:31] Speaker 3: me out. Okay, what home, Sweet Home, it's called in
[3:35] Speaker 3: New York, you know, it's like near Christy Street. Yeah,
[3:39] Speaker 3: we have to like go down, yeah.
[3:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. That's fine.
[3:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're I'm actually confusing two nights, this is
[3:46] Speaker 3: one one whatever. Who gives nobody it's the same somebody.
[3:53] Speaker 1: New York years ago.
[3:56] Speaker 3: It also could be the same night for this, it'll
[4:00] Speaker 3: be the same night. And I remember I I they
[4:03] Speaker 3: they actually, you know when someone's like, oh, they threw
[4:05] Speaker 3: me out of the bar, They actually picked me up
[4:08] Speaker 3: that I was so belligerent while I was ejing that
[4:11] Speaker 3: two men picked me up and they threw me into
[4:15] Speaker 3: guard And I remember at the time, I was getting
[4:17] Speaker 3: paid three hundred dollars, okay, and it's like the most
[4:21] Speaker 3: embarrassing thing. They throw me into garbage and then the
[4:23] Speaker 3: guy takes out not even like three like nights. He
[4:27] Speaker 3: crumpled three hundred dollar bills and throws them out, so
[4:31] Speaker 3: they throw them at me on the ground.
[4:33] Speaker 1: I'm black, Did you dude to deserve that?
[4:36] Speaker 3: I was probably being an idiot.
[4:37] Speaker 1: In what sense?
[4:40] Speaker 3: It was probably just so drunk, like spilling stuff, like
[4:43] Speaker 3: being an idiot. So I'm out there and I remember
[4:46] Speaker 3: like standing up and like looking at my friends and
[4:48] Speaker 3: they were out there and I was like, I hate you.
[4:51] Speaker 3: I was like, fuck you, and I like looked at
[4:53] Speaker 3: my I was like, I hate you, like and I
[4:55] Speaker 3: was just like I was just like, I gone off
[4:58] Speaker 3: the rails. I went full fully off the rails.
[5:02] Speaker 1: I was eighteen year old Penny. That was like that.
[5:09] Speaker 3: You're only yeah, but that's what you do when you're eighteen. Yeah.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have so.
[5:16] Speaker 1: Many Okay, tell me some more bombing stories.
[5:18] Speaker 3: So okay, so first, this is like the opposite of
[5:21] Speaker 3: a bomb. Okay. I'm playing poker one night and like
[5:25] Speaker 3: my friend's mom puts me on her Instagram. Okay. Then
[5:29] Speaker 3: she calls me the next day and she's like, yo,
[5:32] Speaker 3: my son's best friend. You're his biggest influence in the world.
[5:37] Speaker 3: You have to let him come like intern for you.
[5:41] Speaker 3: I was like I don't need another intern, and they
[5:43] Speaker 3: were like whease, and I was like all right, fine. So,
[5:46] Speaker 3: like I meet this kid, this kid's fifteen years old,
[5:49] Speaker 3: and he's like, I got a intern for you, and
[5:51] Speaker 3: I'm like all right, Like he was just like a
[5:53] Speaker 3: sweet kid. I was like intern for me, and I
[5:56] Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm in New York and I
[5:59] Speaker 3: was like, but I'm building a studio in La You
[6:01] Speaker 3: got to just build the studio and I'll be out
[6:03] Speaker 3: in like a few months. And then he was like
[6:06] Speaker 3: he was like all right, so did you give.
[6:08] Speaker 1: Up a budget?
[6:10] Speaker 3: We did the whole thing.
[6:11] Speaker 1: Oh okay, build it with your bare hand and your
[6:13] Speaker 1: own mind the chop.
[6:17] Speaker 3: So basically, this kid starts working for me, and then
[6:20] Speaker 3: like he eventually like is about to graduate high school
[6:24] Speaker 3: and like he's in like his last semester and I'm like, yo,
[6:26] Speaker 3: I'm going on the road with Ed Sheeran. Do you
[6:28] Speaker 3: want to come and like learn? And he's like yes.
[6:31] Speaker 3: And then like eventually I'm like he's in college and
[6:33] Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, we're going on tour with this person.
[6:36] Speaker 3: Do you want to come, like like see how it's
[6:38] Speaker 3: all done? Blah blah blah. And he's like working his
[6:40] Speaker 3: way up, never even tells me he makes music, and
[6:43] Speaker 3: then one day he like sits me down and he's
[6:45] Speaker 3: just like dude. When he's like nineteen, he's like, dude.
[6:49] Speaker 3: My therapist said, if I don't play you my music,
[6:54] Speaker 3: then like I just like eat, he won't work with
[6:56] Speaker 3: me anymore. And I was like, yeah, of course, man,
[6:59] Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, he played music. I'm like, yeah, no,
[7:06] Speaker 3: he plays me his music and it's bad. Yeah, okay,
[7:09] Speaker 3: but like I see something in the kid somehow. Fast
[7:12] Speaker 3: forward like a year or two, I sign him and
[7:15] Speaker 3: then he's the actual biggest producer in the world right now.
[7:20] Speaker 3: He literally just one Song of the Year at the Grammy's.
[7:22] Speaker 3: He's like the biggest producer in the world, and he's
[7:24] Speaker 3: he's been working with me since Blake. Yeah, Blake. Now, okay,
[7:27] Speaker 3: you want to hear a funny Blake story. That's a bomb. Okay, great,
[7:30] Speaker 3: this is a bomb of a story.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Wait, so you met Blake because your friend's mom was
[7:34] Speaker 1: just like, hey, I got to put you on my
[7:36] Speaker 1: Instagram and.
[7:36] Speaker 3: She just put me on Instagram in a poker game
[7:38] Speaker 3: and he was like, who the fuck is it?
[7:39] Speaker 1: How do you know?
[7:40] Speaker 3: Benny? Like he had no idea and it was just
[7:42] Speaker 3: like a random thing. Whoa Yeah, it was so random.
[7:46] Speaker 3: So okay, So okay, Blake, it's his first day. I'm like,
[7:50] Speaker 3: finally in LA. He's been working for me for like
[7:52] Speaker 3: eight months, hasn't done anything. He's like cleaning toilets. Everything,
[7:55] Speaker 3: his life sucks. Okay, he finally walks in. I'm in
[8:00] Speaker 3: La and I'm like, yo, we're going to a studio, Okay,
[8:05] Speaker 3: we're gonna work with the Weekend, and he was just like,
[8:07] Speaker 3: holy shit. He's like what the fuck. He's like, this
[8:10] Speaker 3: is what I've been waiting for. He's losing his mind.
[8:13] Speaker 3: So the Weekend comes in and I'm like, Blake, like
[8:16] Speaker 3: just be cool, and he's like, okay, cool. We're in
[8:19] Speaker 3: the session. Literally fifteen minutes into the session. We're in
[8:22] Speaker 3: a room like this small and we're like me in
[8:24] Speaker 3: the Weekend, are like going back and forth and we're
[8:27] Speaker 3: like singing stuff, we're playing beats, and all of a sudden,
[8:29] Speaker 3: he takes his phone out to try to take like
[8:31] Speaker 3: a sneak no and it goes like it goes, it flashes,
[8:36] Speaker 3: and he literally Blake doesn't know what to do, so
[8:39] Speaker 3: he goes like this. He goes and he throws his
[8:42] Speaker 3: phone and just like leaves the room and just like
[8:46] Speaker 3: doesn't know what to do. Like the Weekend doesn't notice,
[8:49] Speaker 3: and it's like all good, but he was so embarrassed
[8:52] Speaker 3: he left the room and did not come back for
[8:53] Speaker 3: the rest of the session. But Blake bomb.
[9:00] Speaker 2: Godre with Averic Codre.
[9:12] Speaker 3: Who's the worst, who's the one basically it's like the
[9:14] Speaker 3: first time I work with Diddy, and I'm like so excited.
[9:18] Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, this guy's like my hero.
[9:20] Speaker 3: Like it's like he's a full legend. And I get there.
[9:23] Speaker 3: He lives up to everything. He's like in the thing
[9:25] Speaker 3: he's getting like his haircut, he's directing a music video.
[9:28] Speaker 3: He's like someone's like doing stuff with his toes. Like
[9:30] Speaker 3: it's like all that stuff for Instagram and stuff is
[9:32] Speaker 3: so real. He's like he was like he was like
[9:34] Speaker 3: it was crazy. There was like somebody he had like
[9:36] Speaker 3: a bottle of champagne that he was like deciding whether
[9:39] Speaker 3: it was gonna be like the new logo, like so
[9:41] Speaker 3: many things are happening at once. And then he's like
[9:43] Speaker 3: I get in there and he's like you always like
[9:45] Speaker 3: you know, I just got back from fucking Paris, Like
[9:48] Speaker 3: I'm in France, I'm in all these different places, Like
[9:50] Speaker 3: I want to make that like fucking like disco shit,
[9:53] Speaker 3: Like the record's spinning and there's fucking cocaine and when
[9:55] Speaker 3: it comes to your turn, you just got to snort
[9:57] Speaker 3: it right up. He's like, I want to make that
[9:58] Speaker 3: good shit. And I was like, oh, oh, so like uh,
[10:01] Speaker 3: like what do you think like something like more like
[10:03] Speaker 3: daft punk or like craft work, and he's like looked
[10:06] Speaker 3: at me.
[10:06] Speaker 1: He was like they.
[10:07] Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up. And I was like, he was
[10:10] Speaker 3: like stop trying to confuse me. And I was like, oh,
[10:12] Speaker 3: I was like okay. I was like I'm sorry, and
[10:15] Speaker 3: then like and and then there was like two people.
[10:18] Speaker 3: I remember there was these people. There was like his
[10:20] Speaker 3: assistant and then someone else's assistant and they were like
[10:23] Speaker 3: and he was like, I bet you my assistants faster
[10:25] Speaker 3: than yours to like the other person. And then they
[10:27] Speaker 3: were like he was there was like and he like yeah,
[10:29] Speaker 3: and they were like both yelling for their assistant and
[10:31] Speaker 3: like did Jesus isn't actually came like later and he
[10:34] Speaker 3: was like you're fired, just like getting fired.
[10:38] Speaker 1: On this.
[10:40] Speaker 3: One time. I was like kind of used to have
[10:42] Speaker 3: this like warehouse. Okay, it's like insane warehouse. And we
[10:47] Speaker 3: like after church, his like uh Sunday services, which actually
[10:51] Speaker 3: were like incredible. They were so sick, like did you
[10:54] Speaker 3: ever go to one? No, they were they were amazing.
[10:56] Speaker 1: They were like allergic to religion.
[10:59] Speaker 3: No, it wasn't religion, it was just like sick. You
[11:00] Speaker 3: were watching like a Kanye show and it's like and
[11:03] Speaker 3: everything he did was like so amazing, Like he was
[11:05] Speaker 3: my hero growing up. So like we're like at one
[11:09] Speaker 3: of his things. I hope we don't lift this. This
[11:12] Speaker 3: one's so good. We were we were we went back
[11:15] Speaker 3: to like his like facility. We had like a factory,
[11:18] Speaker 3: and like you walked in and like we were like
[11:21] Speaker 3: with one of my friends and we were this story's crazy.
[11:26] Speaker 1: We were.
[11:27] Speaker 3: We're like, okay, so we walked into Kanye's factory and
[11:30] Speaker 3: we're like walking around and we walk into my friend's
[11:33] Speaker 3: like little studio and we're just like waiting for Kanye
[11:36] Speaker 3: to show up. And I like I walk into one
[11:39] Speaker 3: room and and it's like all of his like easy
[11:42] Speaker 3: stuff and all the samples, and it all like looks
[11:44] Speaker 3: so cool. It's all like set up in the coolest way.
[11:46] Speaker 3: There's like mood boards everywhere. I'm like this is amazing,
[11:49] Speaker 3: and I'm like touching all the fabrics. And then like
[11:52] Speaker 3: I walk into another room and it's like the coolest
[11:55] Speaker 3: room you've ever seen with just like with just like
[11:58] Speaker 3: shoes and like men and like a ab coats like
[12:01] Speaker 3: making shoes and that are like seventy and I'm like yeah.
[12:05] Speaker 3: I'm like I'm like holy shit. And then I go
[12:07] Speaker 3: into another room and there's like one of those like
[12:09] Speaker 3: big dry erase boards and this is a whole ago
[12:11] Speaker 3: and it says like how to make Kanye West a billionaire?
[12:15] Speaker 3: It was and it was like had like always like
[12:17] Speaker 3: a count information, like just everything on a thing. And
[12:19] Speaker 3: I was like, we're definitely not supposed to be in here,
[12:22] Speaker 3: and it had like like all these different ways to
[12:24] Speaker 3: make him like a billionaire, and I was like, oh shit.
[12:26] Speaker 3: So then we like walk out and we walk into
[12:28] Speaker 3: this other room and it's him and he's having like
[12:32] Speaker 3: a full meeting with like people, and he has a
[12:34] Speaker 3: screen that's bigger than this room. It's like this wrap
[12:37] Speaker 3: around screen. It's like twenty feet tall with like and
[12:40] Speaker 3: it has like a computer on it and they're like
[12:42] Speaker 3: looking at it like a website. And it has this
[12:44] Speaker 3: thing where you like press the clothes and like drag
[12:46] Speaker 3: them and then it's like a woman like in the
[12:48] Speaker 3: clothes and she's moving around and then like a man.
[12:51] Speaker 3: And I'm there with my girlfriend at the time, and
[12:54] Speaker 3: I remember I remember like Yea's in there, and we're
[12:56] Speaker 3: like it's like a few of us and we're like, oh,
[12:58] Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we didn't we didn't mean to come in,
[13:00] Speaker 3: and he's like, no, no, come in and we're like okay.
[13:02] Speaker 3: He's like and he's like my girl at the time.
[13:04] Speaker 3: He's like he's like, what do you think about these clothes?
[13:06] Speaker 3: And she's like, uh, She's like they're they're amazing, They're
[13:09] Speaker 3: so cool. And he's like, go press the button, go
[13:11] Speaker 3: like try it on. Like it like like you can
[13:13] Speaker 3: press a button and we'll make it all try on
[13:15] Speaker 3: and she was like okay, oh sick. So she like
[13:18] Speaker 3: goes up. It's the the screen is like three thirty
[13:21] Speaker 3: foot screens. It's insane, and she like goes to like
[13:26] Speaker 3: click one and you know how like if you like
[13:28] Speaker 3: swipe a mouse like down to the bottom of the screen,
[13:31] Speaker 3: like it like puts the computer in sleep mode. It
[13:34] Speaker 3: literally just goes like this goes sh and we're in
[13:37] Speaker 3: a room full of darkness with all these people and
[13:41] Speaker 3: we're like and she's like losing her mind. And then
[13:44] Speaker 3: like someone's like, hey, do you know the password, and like, uh,
[13:48] Speaker 3: Kinnie's like, oh, let me try and like types in.
[13:50] Speaker 3: It's like then it's like doesn't work, and then he
[13:53] Speaker 3: tries another one. It's like and it just like doesn't work.
[13:56] Speaker 3: And then like finally, like one of my friends just
[13:58] Speaker 3: writes like password in it. It's like no, everything shines
[14:02] Speaker 3: back up and he not hacked all and it was
[14:05] Speaker 3: like and then he like he goes like this she
[14:07] Speaker 3: like she like is still standing by the thing, and
[14:09] Speaker 3: he's like maybe maybe I'll do the next one. And
[14:12] Speaker 3: then he was just like she's had like a full
[14:14] Speaker 3: like walking.
[14:15] Speaker 1: That's like a moment.
[14:17] Speaker 3: That's like a bomb. Yeah, that's a bomb. That's a bomb.
[14:21] Speaker 2: You know.
[14:21] Speaker 3: My favorite is when when whenever like you're with someone
[14:24] Speaker 3: and like like one time I was I was with
[14:27] Speaker 3: my friend and we were like outside of a party
[14:30] Speaker 3: and we couldn't get into this party, and like do
[14:32] Speaker 3: you know how you have some of those friends that
[14:33] Speaker 3: are just like they're shameless, they'll do anything like and
[14:37] Speaker 3: we were like outside of this party, we weren't getting in.
[14:39] Speaker 3: This was like ten years ago. We're probably not gonna
[14:43] Speaker 3: be able to use his name, but we can use
[14:44] Speaker 3: this story. So he's like we're like outside of this
[14:46] Speaker 3: like New Year's party, and we're like there's no way
[14:48] Speaker 3: we're getting in. It's like watching like Brad Pitt walk
[14:51] Speaker 3: in like everyone's walking in, and then we have another
[14:54] Speaker 3: good story up a bomb. So we're watching like Brad
[14:57] Speaker 3: pit walk in and then uh, he literally sees Andy
[15:01] Speaker 3: Garcia walking by that the actor the big actor. Yeah,
[15:05] Speaker 3: you know, so we see like Andy garciam like, oh,
[15:09] Speaker 3: He's like, I'm good friends. He goes I'm friends with him,
[15:12] Speaker 3: and I go you're friends with Andy Garcia and he
[15:14] Speaker 3: goes yeah, and he goes up to him and he goes,
[15:16] Speaker 3: hey Andy, and and he goes like this. He's like
[15:18] Speaker 3: he's like remember me, and then he's like I said,
[15:21] Speaker 3: first of all, if you have to start a sentence, you're
[15:25] Speaker 3: not friends with that person. And then like and then
[15:27] Speaker 3: like he literally goes like it's like right in front
[15:30] Speaker 3: of the bouncer and he's like, remember we had like
[15:31] Speaker 3: dinner like two weeks ago. And then he's like you
[15:34] Speaker 3: remember like I was with like I was with no
[15:36] Speaker 3: One Gary. And then he was like yeah, and then
[15:39] Speaker 3: he was like could you help us get in? And
[15:42] Speaker 3: he's like he's like he's like a Mandy Garcia, what
[15:44] Speaker 3: am I gonna do? You think I'm gonna get you in?
[15:45] Speaker 3: I'll be able to get you in and then he's like,
[15:47] Speaker 3: he's like, come on, just try and then like he
[15:49] Speaker 3: just goes to the bouncer, he's like, you let these
[15:51] Speaker 3: guys in. And then guy's like, but so it wasn't
[15:56] Speaker 3: a bomb, but it was such a bomb. Yeah, it
[15:59] Speaker 3: was a.
[16:00] Speaker 1: Little bit about satisfying just much more satisfyed.
[16:06] Speaker 4: With aerdre with Aerdre, have you ever been beat up before?
[16:20] Speaker 4: You've ever been in a fight or been.
[16:21] Speaker 3: In so many? Yeah, that's not a bomb.
[16:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like about failure. It's not about bombing. It's
[16:28] Speaker 1: just about the trials and tribulation of life. What's a
[16:31] Speaker 1: what's a trying?
[16:32] Speaker 3: I think of like the biggest failure. You're trying to
[16:34] Speaker 3: black those out.
[16:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, but it makes you likable, it makes you endearing.
[16:37] Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying it makes you relatable.
[16:39] Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.
[16:40] Speaker 1: About, like when did you get beat up?
[16:42] Speaker 2: Oh?
[16:42] Speaker 3: My god? So many?
[16:43] Speaker 2: Why?
[16:44] Speaker 1: What what are you talking?
[16:45] Speaker 2: When?
[16:45] Speaker 1: Where what do.
[16:46] Speaker 3: You I used to go to freestyle battles. I would
[16:48] Speaker 3: just like win and then they just beat me up, Like.
[16:51] Speaker 1: I really like a guy like name one, like a
[16:54] Speaker 1: guy punched you in the face. Yeah.
[16:56] Speaker 3: I used to get beat up all the time. That's
[16:57] Speaker 3: not even a good bomb. Let me think as I'm good.
[17:01] Speaker 1: That's great. What are you talking about? You're sitting on gold.
[17:04] Speaker 1: You would go to freestyle rap battles and win. You're
[17:07] Speaker 1: great at freestyle rapping.
[17:08] Speaker 3: I mean I was. I don't think I'm great anymore.
[17:11] Speaker 1: Really, what would you rap a belt?
[17:13] Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. That was like thirteen, it
[17:16] Speaker 3: was thirty, it was twenty something years ago.
[17:18] Speaker 1: And then guys would beat you up when you won.
[17:21] Speaker 1: So you would go to a rap competition and be
[17:23] Speaker 1: like wrap out a rap, rap rap and then some.
[17:26] Speaker 3: I just pledged you just jump me when I left?
[17:30] Speaker 1: Really?
[17:31] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[17:31] Speaker 1: Who? I don't know the guy's name.
[17:33] Speaker 2: Why?
[17:34] Speaker 1: Why is this? Like you're like you couldn't care less?
[17:36] Speaker 1: Like this is like grocery food chopping.
[17:38] Speaker 3: This isn't good. This isn't good. This is a bad bomb.
[17:41] Speaker 1: This is what you gotta talk about failures.
[17:43] Speaker 3: No, no, I want like a good failure.
[17:45] Speaker 1: Let me think of like this is this thing?
[17:47] Speaker 3: No no, no, like like a like a big one, Oh,
[17:49] Speaker 3: like a big a better story. Yeah, let me let
[17:51] Speaker 3: me think of a big one. Okay, this is how
[17:53] Speaker 3: I got into that this is like my first thing
[17:55] Speaker 3: to get really into the music business, and it's like
[17:58] Speaker 3: a bomb. For like six months. Okay, I used to
[18:01] Speaker 3: do this thing where I would go on my Space
[18:03] Speaker 3: and I would direct message every single person in the
[18:07] Speaker 3: world like I could know and like just like be relentless.
[18:11] Speaker 3: And there was this guy. He was one of my
[18:12] Speaker 3: favorite producers. His name was Disco d Okay, and he
[18:20] Speaker 3: did like he created a type of music called ghetto tech.
[18:23] Speaker 3: It's like Detroit Yeah. So he's one of the yeah yeah,
[18:29] Speaker 3: those are all him so so basically.
[18:30] Speaker 1: It's so crazy. So like he just had like a
[18:33] Speaker 1: whole ghetto tech.
[18:34] Speaker 3: So he was like one of the creators of ghetto tech.
[18:36] Speaker 3: And then he also produced like amazing like some of
[18:38] Speaker 3: my favorite like fifty cent songs. Like he was like
[18:41] Speaker 3: he was the first person I ever met. He was
[18:43] Speaker 3: the first parton. He introduced me to spank Rock. He
[18:45] Speaker 3: was working with spank Crock, he was working with most
[18:47] Speaker 3: deaf he was working with.
[18:49] Speaker 1: He didn't know ghetto.
[18:51] Speaker 3: He was one of one of the guys.
[18:52] Speaker 1: There's like one of the Yeah.
[18:55] Speaker 3: So basically I used to d M him every day
[18:58] Speaker 3: and he would never answer, and then I all that
[19:00] Speaker 3: he had a studio time available, and I said, how
[19:06] Speaker 3: did you figure that out? I just saw he had
[19:08] Speaker 3: an ad on on his MySpace for studio time, and
[19:12] Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I want to book out the
[19:15] Speaker 3: studio for a day, and he was like, for sure,
[19:18] Speaker 3: come up here. So I came up. And when I
[19:22] Speaker 3: got to New York, I was living in Virginia at
[19:25] Speaker 3: the time. I drove up. When I got to New York,
[19:28] Speaker 3: I didn't drive. Me and my friends, which I dude,
[19:30] Speaker 3: we would do the craziest things. I didn't have anywhere
[19:32] Speaker 3: to stay, so we would go. I would go up
[19:35] Speaker 3: for meetings. These are yeah, this is the bomb shit.
[19:38] Speaker 3: I would go up for meetings every single weekend. And
[19:40] Speaker 3: I would go on a Friday and I would skip
[19:42] Speaker 3: some of school so I could get there in time
[19:44] Speaker 3: for like the last meeting. And after that, we didn't
[19:48] Speaker 3: have anywhere to stay. We didn't have any money, so
[19:50] Speaker 3: me and all my friends we would sleep in the
[19:53] Speaker 3: McDonald's in Times Square and we would take turn sleeping
[19:56] Speaker 3: and like one person would stay awake and then one
[19:58] Speaker 3: person would sleep. Yeah, And we used to just like, dude,
[20:02] Speaker 3: we used to sleep. We used to sleep in Hoboken
[20:05] Speaker 3: station because like the cops wouldn't come there, and like
[20:08] Speaker 3: we would all yeah, we'd sleep in a car and
[20:11] Speaker 3: like one person would stay awake and we would do
[20:12] Speaker 3: all the ship and it was me and like a
[20:14] Speaker 3: few of my friends. And sometimes like you'd go, I'd
[20:17] Speaker 3: go like all the way there and like the meeting,
[20:20] Speaker 3: they'd be like, ah, sorry, can't make it, like and
[20:23] Speaker 3: I'd be like, fuck, I drove all the way here.
[20:25] Speaker 3: So we'd have to like try to figure out something
[20:27] Speaker 3: we could do. But basically one of the times, I
[20:29] Speaker 3: like go in with Disco deep and I get there
[20:32] Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, I don't want studio time. I
[20:35] Speaker 3: had to get through to you. I really think I
[20:38] Speaker 3: could be like the best producer in the world. I
[20:40] Speaker 3: think like you could help me, I think. And he
[20:43] Speaker 3: was so angry. He was like, you're wasting my fucking time.
[20:46] Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, please, I'll do anything. And
[20:48] Speaker 3: he said okay. He said, I literally am leaving tomorrow.
[20:53] Speaker 3: I'm gone for two days. If you can book my
[20:55] Speaker 3: studio for the two days you have a job, you
[20:58] Speaker 3: can be my intern. And I said, yeah, of course
[21:01] Speaker 3: I can book the studio.
[21:02] Speaker 1: It was like, no idea how to do no.
[21:04] Speaker 3: Dude, it was like six hundred dollars a day, so
[21:06] Speaker 3: I and we didn't have money. I called every person
[21:09] Speaker 3: I know and I was like, please, I'll pay you back.
[21:13] Speaker 3: I'll do anything, like and I had. I got it
[21:16] Speaker 3: booked somehow. I booked the studio the whole time, and
[21:19] Speaker 3: I put it on. I put in there was like
[21:20] Speaker 3: a few extra hours and I put in two hundred
[21:22] Speaker 3: of my own dollars and I had no money. Yeah,
[21:24] Speaker 3: like and he was like, all right, you did it.
[21:27] Speaker 3: He was like, i'll see you next weekend.
[21:28] Speaker 1: How did you Who did you book? How did you get?
[21:30] Speaker 3: Just any person I knew. I knew a few people
[21:33] Speaker 3: in New York. I knew like these like bad local rappers,
[21:36] Speaker 3: and I would be like, okay, you come for two
[21:38] Speaker 3: hours and then like I'd be like, dude, I'll give
[21:40] Speaker 3: you a deal, and I'd like and I just was
[21:41] Speaker 3: like I finagled. Like it was like I made like
[21:45] Speaker 3: I got like eleven hundred dollars or something in two days,
[21:50] Speaker 3: and I like, I did it by like everyone I
[21:52] Speaker 3: knew and like a few of my friends from Virginia.
[21:54] Speaker 3: I was like, dude, please just like I'll find a
[21:57] Speaker 3: way to get you back, like and I just made
[21:59] Speaker 3: it happen.
[22:00] Speaker 1: Was he like renting? I don't really understand. It was
[22:02] Speaker 1: just like it was just like you rent studio time,
[22:04] Speaker 1: like you can out of his studio, like you can
[22:06] Speaker 1: rent a hourly.
[22:07] Speaker 3: Have you ever been to a studio?
[22:09] Speaker 1: No?
[22:09] Speaker 3: Oh, you've never been to recordings?
[22:10] Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not in music.
[22:12] Speaker 3: Oh okay, So so like so quit when a graduate
[22:15] Speaker 3: when I was twenty so basically playing classical music. So
[22:18] Speaker 3: recording students, recording studios, ye are are rented hourly or
[22:24] Speaker 3: by the day, and it's just like a rate. It's
[22:27] Speaker 3: like a fixed rate. And he had a studio and
[22:28] Speaker 3: when he wasn't using it, he would rent it out.
[22:30] Speaker 1: Oh okay.
[22:31] Speaker 3: And I rented it the whole time, and he was like, great,
[22:34] Speaker 3: come back next weekend. I was like, I have no money.
[22:36] Speaker 3: How am I going to get back? And then he
[22:38] Speaker 3: was like you can stay. He was like, every time
[22:39] Speaker 3: you're in New York, you can stay at my place.
[22:41] Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, so at least I have
[22:43] Speaker 3: a place to stay now. The time I started doing that, sixteen,
[22:47] Speaker 3: I sixteen. About I started doing it, I would travel
[22:49] Speaker 3: back and forth every weekend sixteen.
[22:52] Speaker 1: How long of a drive is four and a half hours?
[22:55] Speaker 3: He tried. I used to take the fun Wa bus
[22:57] Speaker 3: Y Yeah, yeah, dude. He used to be twenty dollars
[23:00] Speaker 3: round trip.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Dude. It was like, oh, take it at three thirty am,
[23:03] Speaker 1: and it was like it was like four bucks it
[23:05] Speaker 1: was and they had like shrimp on the bottom of it.
[23:08] Speaker 1: Broke down.
[23:09] Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, I was on one. It was insane.
[23:13] Speaker 3: It's it would like it would like sometimes it would
[23:16] Speaker 3: just smell like trash the time, and but it was
[23:19] Speaker 3: like it was like heaven to me. I loved it
[23:21] Speaker 3: and I would get back like just in time for.
[23:23] Speaker 1: You were just close enough to New York City to
[23:26] Speaker 1: like release, get to see it start entertainment.
[23:28] Speaker 3: I started.
[23:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like I was going.
[23:31] Speaker 3: In Jersey, Yeah, in New York City.
[23:33] Speaker 1: That's smart that you were like in proximity.
[23:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like it was just close enough. And
[23:38] Speaker 3: like so then when I would go, I.
[23:40] Speaker 1: Think that's half the battle, just being in the place
[23:42] Speaker 1: where it's happening, dude.
[23:43] Speaker 3: So it's so I remember one time I'm there, okay,
[23:47] Speaker 3: I'm I'm eighteen now, and he's like, yo, I got
[23:51] Speaker 3: some important sessions coming through. It was like t I
[23:55] Speaker 3: was there first, and then afterwards it was it was
[23:58] Speaker 3: it was spank Rock and he was like, I got
[24:01] Speaker 3: this guy coming in. He was like, whatever he wants.
[24:05] Speaker 3: You're his studio assistant. You're his bitch, you do whatever
[24:08] Speaker 3: he wants. I was like, okay. So, like it's in
[24:10] Speaker 3: Williamsburg the studio and it's like two thousand and six,
[24:14] Speaker 3: and he walks in and he's like, oh, I'm kind
[24:18] Speaker 3: of hungry, and he was like, can you order me
[24:20] Speaker 3: this thing? So I order him this thing from this
[24:21] Speaker 3: place called any Time. It's not even there anymore. So
[24:24] Speaker 3: like I'm in the session and I like bring him
[24:27] Speaker 3: his food and he's like, hey, what do you think
[24:30] Speaker 3: about this? And he like wraps a thing to me
[24:32] Speaker 3: it's bank Rock, and I'm like, oh man, that's so good.
[24:35] Speaker 3: And then like I'm working with him the next day.
[24:37] Speaker 3: The next day, same thing, bring him in his food
[24:39] Speaker 3: and he's like he's like hey, he's like what rhymes
[24:42] Speaker 3: with like telephone or something, And I was like, oh, maybe,
[24:46] Speaker 3: well maybe telephone. I was like teleophone. I was like
[24:50] Speaker 3: telephone a telephone. Telephone is such a hard one. So
[24:55] Speaker 3: so I like he like takes the line and then
[24:58] Speaker 3: we start like talking and like developing this like report.
[25:01] Speaker 1: But he was new too, he was he was cool.
[25:05] Speaker 3: He was like very cool, and it was like and
[25:07] Speaker 3: I didn't care. I only cared about cool shit because
[25:09] Speaker 3: I was like living in Williamsburg at the time. And
[25:11] Speaker 3: it's like, you know, this was like before Santi was
[25:14] Speaker 3: even a thing, Like we put her on her first,
[25:16] Speaker 3: like her first collaboration was with us, and I remember
[25:21] Speaker 3: like one night they were like, Yo, we're gonna go
[25:23] Speaker 3: back to the studio. I need you to prepare the studio.
[25:26] Speaker 3: So I took the train and the way that it
[25:28] Speaker 3: worked back then is like from where I lived, I
[25:31] Speaker 3: had to go all the way in the city then
[25:32] Speaker 3: all the way back to brook because I lived in
[25:34] Speaker 3: Brooklyn too, but there was no like connector because the
[25:36] Speaker 3: L train used to like not connect to anything. So
[25:39] Speaker 3: like I like went all the way in the city
[25:40] Speaker 3: all the way to his thing, and then he was like, actually,
[25:42] Speaker 3: I need you to bring this demo CD to me.
[25:45] Speaker 3: He's like I'm actually gonna be with Diddy, and I
[25:47] Speaker 3: was like fuck. So I had to go all the
[25:49] Speaker 3: way back then, all the way there, and he's like
[25:52] Speaker 3: and then he was like, we left, We're at the
[25:53] Speaker 3: next place. You got to meet this at the next place.
[25:55] Speaker 1: So I'm like, what the fuck this is?
[25:56] Speaker 3: This is this is disco d He's like, and I'm
[25:59] Speaker 3: like fuck. So I like go to the next place.
[26:02] Speaker 3: And then he's like gone from the next place and
[26:03] Speaker 3: he's like, dude, he's like meet us at the next place.
[26:05] Speaker 3: And I'm running in the rain with the CD and
[26:08] Speaker 3: I'm like and I finally get there and I'm like
[26:11] Speaker 3: and he's like, dude, we went to another place. Just
[26:13] Speaker 3: meet us back at the studio. I'm crushing. No, it's
[26:19] Speaker 3: just like I'm too and I'm like too slow because
[26:22] Speaker 3: I didn't have any money. So I was like fuck it. Yeah,
[26:24] Speaker 3: I was like I got it. I'm just going to
[26:26] Speaker 3: take a taxi for this last thing and I'll just
[26:27] Speaker 3: like eat less the next day. So I like take
[26:30] Speaker 3: the taxi. I get back, I'm like covered in rain
[26:32] Speaker 3: and it's like everyone's there. It's like most death is there.
[26:36] Speaker 3: You're locking every single person there. Everything is a race.
[26:40] Speaker 3: Everything is a race. I'm sitting there and there's like
[26:43] Speaker 3: models and artists and it's like it's crazy. It's like
[26:47] Speaker 3: this was like the first time where I like saw
[26:49] Speaker 3: like I'm like, whoa, yeah, and I'm sitting there and
[26:53] Speaker 3: I remember all the girls and everyone were just like,
[26:56] Speaker 3: oh my god, you're so wet, like like dry off
[26:59] Speaker 3: and and and spank Craft was like, oh man, it's
[27:02] Speaker 3: good to see you. Like and I'm like in heaven.
[27:05] Speaker 3: And then like the guy just humiliates me that disco deep,
[27:10] Speaker 3: just like full humiliate amiliation. First he was like, go
[27:15] Speaker 3: get us, go get us snacks. Okay, So I go downstairs,
[27:18] Speaker 3: I bring them back and it was like he was like,
[27:20] Speaker 3: that's the wrong one. And he opens up a bottle
[27:23] Speaker 3: of a bag of potato chips and pours him on
[27:27] Speaker 3: my head in front of everyone. And then like and
[27:32] Speaker 3: then I'm like and he was like and he was
[27:34] Speaker 3: like and I like finally like walk into the room
[27:38] Speaker 3: and stuff, and he's like, no, you're not allowed in
[27:41] Speaker 3: right now. He's like, you can't come in the room.
[27:42] Speaker 1: And like there's this little's kill samurai dude.
[27:47] Speaker 3: There's this little window and I just can look in
[27:49] Speaker 3: the studio and I see everyone in there like having
[27:53] Speaker 3: I'm like sitting outside. And then I remember the next
[27:55] Speaker 3: day I saw the next he was the best, but
[27:58] Speaker 3: he was, but he was he was trouble. And the
[28:00] Speaker 3: next day I came in and I remember he was like,
[28:03] Speaker 3: all right, play me your beats, because I think he
[28:05] Speaker 3: felt bad. He was like playing your beats and like
[28:08] Speaker 3: playing my beats. And he literally takes all the files
[28:13] Speaker 3: and deletes them. He at least my whole hard drive.
[28:15] Speaker 3: And he's like these suck. And he was like start again,
[28:18] Speaker 3: as a monster. And he goes start again, and then
[28:22] Speaker 3: and then another time, another time he took my hard
[28:25] Speaker 3: drive and he threw it out the window, and and
[28:28] Speaker 3: and and I was like crushed all these because Psycho,
[28:32] Speaker 3: I was crushed. And he would be like but he
[28:35] Speaker 3: would always tell me something. He'd be like, okay, this
[28:38] Speaker 3: is why I deleted all him. He was like, I
[28:39] Speaker 3: want you to watch me make a beat. And I
[28:41] Speaker 3: was like studying him because I was obsessed with this
[28:43] Speaker 3: guy was so far ahead of his time, and he
[28:45] Speaker 3: was so good at dealing with artists and so good
[28:47] Speaker 3: at it.
[28:49] Speaker 1: I learned everything.
[28:52] Speaker 3: I would never be who I am without knowing what
[28:55] Speaker 3: he did. Like really, if he was around for like
[28:58] Speaker 3: a little bit longer, he would have been like one
[29:00] Speaker 3: of the biggest producers. He was just like suicide. He
[29:03] Speaker 3: was he was he was like was too far ahead
[29:05] Speaker 3: of his time, but like and he like he like
[29:08] Speaker 3: it was it was really like karate kidship, but he
[29:10] Speaker 3: would like torture me like it was dude.
[29:13] Speaker 1: One time was he getting off on it?
[29:16] Speaker 3: I think he was just crazy. One time one time
[29:18] Speaker 3: I was literally they had like a session coming and
[29:21] Speaker 3: he wanted to have like a really big screen TV
[29:23] Speaker 3: for the session, like for the as the computer. And
[29:26] Speaker 3: I remember I was setting it up and he was
[29:28] Speaker 3: like faster and he had a bamboo stick and he
[29:31] Speaker 3: was hitting me with.
[29:35] Speaker 1: Putting it out.
[29:36] Speaker 3: I was like, you wanted bombs, here's my bombs. And
[29:41] Speaker 3: I was like and like I was just like crushed,
[29:43] Speaker 3: but like he would just give me these like nuggets
[29:45] Speaker 3: of gold like at all times, and like honestly, like
[29:49] Speaker 3: a lot of the people that I work with today
[29:52] Speaker 3: are people that I met through those times. So it's
[29:54] Speaker 3: like so it's like I don't know if this is
[29:57] Speaker 3: supposed to be one of those things, but it's like
[29:58] Speaker 3: all the ship you're taking and all this stuff you're
[30:02] Speaker 3: doing to build up your career and you think it's
[30:05] Speaker 3: not worth it, Like that stuff comes back, like I'm
[30:08] Speaker 3: working with these people. I'm working with people I literally
[30:11] Speaker 3: met seventeen years ago, seventeen eighteen years ago, and I
[30:16] Speaker 3: went through some shit, and it's like, dude, I went
[30:18] Speaker 3: through so much shit. You know how many times? Like
[30:20] Speaker 3: I didn't get credit, Like I like made a whole
[30:22] Speaker 3: song and.
[30:23] Speaker 1: Got no credit stolen from you? Oh my god, are
[30:26] Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? Dude? Horrendous dude.
[30:30] Speaker 3: One time I had a number one song stolen front
[30:33] Speaker 3: no credit, one song, no credit, and I remember I
[30:36] Speaker 3: like went in I went into the manager of that
[30:39] Speaker 3: person's thing office and I was like and I was like,
[30:43] Speaker 3: they stole my song, and he was like, no, they didn't.
[30:46] Speaker 3: And then I opened up a laptop and I played
[30:48] Speaker 3: my version with a date stamp that was like before
[30:50] Speaker 3: the one they created. And then I remember like the
[30:52] Speaker 3: manager was like hold on. He like closed the door
[30:55] Speaker 3: and he was like, well, let's just talk about this.
[30:58] Speaker 3: And then I remember I called the person who stole
[31:00] Speaker 3: it from me and I was like, hey, man, you
[31:02] Speaker 3: you stole that thing like that was mine. I did that,
[31:05] Speaker 3: like I did that, and he said what are you
[31:08] Speaker 3: gonna do about it? And then he was like he
[31:10] Speaker 3: was like he goes I'll bury you in legal fees.
[31:14] Speaker 3: He goes, you don't have any money to fight this,
[31:16] Speaker 3: he goes, just just take this one. Just just just
[31:19] Speaker 3: like gave me like a virtual pat on the back.
[31:22] Speaker 3: He was like, you just take this one. You'll get
[31:23] Speaker 3: the next one. Like, oh my god, do you know
[31:27] Speaker 3: how many do you know how many times?
[31:30] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[31:30] Speaker 3: Yeah? But like but but all of those moments like
[31:33] Speaker 3: that's why I like when I signed kids like it
[31:35] Speaker 3: makes it gives me like so much pleasure to like
[31:38] Speaker 3: to like give these guys like fair deals and like and.
[31:41] Speaker 1: Like put potato chips in their hair.
[31:44] Speaker 3: No, no, but to like watch these dudes, Like I
[31:47] Speaker 3: have so many people that I signed that I watched them, Like, dude,
[31:49] Speaker 3: I have like a.
[31:50] Speaker 1: Well you're like you're like an abused child that gets
[31:52] Speaker 1: to like raise.
[31:53] Speaker 3: And I didn't yeah, and I didn't, like I didn't
[31:57] Speaker 3: do that. I like paid it forward. And it's like
[31:59] Speaker 3: it's so cool to like see that. So it's like
[32:01] Speaker 3: all these things that you have like when you're growing up,
[32:04] Speaker 3: they make you who you.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Are, right, Okay, but it is traumatic.
[32:09] Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to you have to process that, kidding.
[32:12] Speaker 3: I have so much trauma, Like this thing could go.
[32:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[32:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, when when I was honestly like one, when when
[32:21] Speaker 3: I was like twenty something and I like start like
[32:24] Speaker 3: twenty one and I started getting like so much success
[32:26] Speaker 3: that started making money for the first time, I didn't
[32:28] Speaker 3: know what to do. I lost my mind. I lost
[32:31] Speaker 3: my crazy. I lost my mind. I like didn't leave
[32:34] Speaker 3: the house for like six months. I was like gore phobic,
[32:37] Speaker 3: Like I like, dude, I literally lost my mind and
[32:41] Speaker 3: I and I had to see. I had to see
[32:43] Speaker 3: Like I saw a therapist like three times a week,
[32:46] Speaker 3: and he like built me back and then like and
[32:48] Speaker 3: then I came back like better than.
[32:49] Speaker 1: Ever lost your mind doing drugs or lost just.
[32:52] Speaker 3: Like it was all too much. There's too much pressure,
[32:55] Speaker 3: too much driver, too much money, too much. Like I
[32:57] Speaker 3: just like didn't I didn't understand, Like I wasn't built
[33:00] Speaker 3: like that. I've never seen.
[33:01] Speaker 1: Any of this shit. Yea, I didn't know song stealing was,
[33:04] Speaker 1: so it goes right all that shit that's fucked up. Yeah,
[33:07] Speaker 1: and like because like joke thievery and comedy is so
[33:11] Speaker 1: taboo and all comics will snitch on you if you
[33:13] Speaker 1: steal a joke, Like comics are looking out for each
[33:15] Speaker 1: other with joke thievery comics are looking out for each
[33:19] Speaker 1: other with that.
[33:19] Speaker 3: You ever steal a joke?
[33:21] Speaker 1: Never, no, never, I have like one type of comedy.
[33:26] Speaker 1: My comedic creative choices are so idiosyncratic and specific. If
[33:32] Speaker 1: I even if I stole a joke, it wouldn't work.
[33:35] Speaker 1: I have like one I sing one song and I
[33:38] Speaker 1: say it, well, like there's only there's only one tempo,
[33:41] Speaker 1: one speed, one volume. You know, I only can do
[33:45] Speaker 1: one thing. So and even if like I had a
[33:48] Speaker 1: joke that was like similar to somebody else's joke and
[33:50] Speaker 1: like it was written from my it was purely written
[33:54] Speaker 1: for it never went on TV or anything. But just
[33:56] Speaker 1: somebody like suggested like oh no, Lucy kas a joking
[33:59] Speaker 1: that I never did it, yeah, and that I never
[34:02] Speaker 1: put it on Netflix. I never went on TV. Just
[34:04] Speaker 1: I like I did it at the Laughactory, and like
[34:07] Speaker 1: they would put comics on their website. Sometimes somebody who
[34:09] Speaker 1: was like in the comments was like, that reminds me
[34:11] Speaker 1: of this joke, And I was like, just the fact
[34:13] Speaker 1: that it reminds you of that joke, it's gone. It's
[34:16] Speaker 1: out of the repertoire.
[34:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's just like it's like but getting crushed
[34:21] Speaker 3: is like part of it. It's like it's all, it's
[34:24] Speaker 3: all like I don't know.
[34:25] Speaker 1: I just don't. I've known you for a while. I
[34:26] Speaker 1: didn't know any of that shit happened here. It's crazy.
[34:28] Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have so many where I'm just
[34:31] Speaker 3: like crushed.
[34:32] Speaker 1: The chips on the head is shitty.
[34:33] Speaker 3: Oh my god, I got, I got. When you're coming up,
[34:36] Speaker 3: you really get crushed.
[34:37] Speaker 2: Like.
[34:38] Speaker 1: The people that are successful are the people that just
[34:39] Speaker 1: willing to put up with all that crushing. Oh and
[34:42] Speaker 1: they don't get discouraged enough to quit.
[34:43] Speaker 2: Dude.
[34:44] Speaker 1: You just can't give up, dude, you keep going.
[34:46] Speaker 3: We would. We would stay in the studio for like
[34:50] Speaker 3: a week at a time. I would fall asleep. I
[34:52] Speaker 3: remember I was I was falling asleep at the computer
[34:56] Speaker 3: and and and like and like they were throwing at
[34:59] Speaker 3: me and they were like, you'd wake up. They're like,
[35:01] Speaker 3: we gotta keep going, and I was like, I was like,
[35:04] Speaker 3: like the dude. One time I had to go to
[35:06] Speaker 3: the hospital. I was so sick and exhausted and exhaustion
[35:11] Speaker 3: like the medical term. Again, Yeah, no, I had actual
[35:14] Speaker 3: I had like actual fatigue. And they had, dude, they
[35:18] Speaker 3: they had to like the people I was working with,
[35:20] Speaker 3: they had me on a on like a schedule and
[35:24] Speaker 3: like a thing that would ring and it would be
[35:25] Speaker 3: like you gotta go to bed now, Bennie, like to
[35:27] Speaker 3: get me like back to like life. Like dude, we
[35:30] Speaker 3: were working like I was working like like sixty hours straight.
[35:34] Speaker 3: But like that shit like makes you that ship.
[35:37] Speaker 1: Made totally totally absolutely. I was so broke when I
[35:41] Speaker 1: started doing comedy. I was homeless. I would sleep in
[35:43] Speaker 1: the park. There's a little park called Saint Barton's Park.
[35:46] Speaker 1: I would ask. I would go on stage at open mics,
[35:48] Speaker 1: do my set, try to make everybody laugh, and then
[35:51] Speaker 1: ask audience members if I could sleep over their house.
[35:54] Speaker 1: Did they say yeah? Sometimes I would. I would add
[35:56] Speaker 1: like tooth brushes all over the city. I would like
[35:58] Speaker 1: crash at different people's houses. I would sleep outside.
[36:01] Speaker 3: It's crazy.
[36:02] Speaker 1: I would eat like one dollar microwave Indian food for breakfast, lunch,
[36:05] Speaker 1: and dinner because there was the cheapest thing.
[36:08] Speaker 3: When you have the.
[36:12] Speaker 1: This is like this is like just just after.
[36:16] Speaker 3: You're just like taking it off.
[36:18] Speaker 1: I had like patchwork.
[36:22] Speaker 3: No, dude, it's like, dude, we're bombing, like like everyone's bombing.
[36:25] Speaker 1: First it doesn't end. Bombing doesn't really end constantly, it
[36:28] Speaker 1: doesn't end. Yeah, your failures will never.
[36:30] Speaker 3: End, you know how often? Like I feel like, but
[36:32] Speaker 3: nobody knows. Like everyone's just like, dude, you make like
[36:35] Speaker 3: every big song work. You know how many songs I have,
[36:37] Speaker 3: They're just like complete. And the crazy thing is I'll
[36:40] Speaker 3: be like I'll be like, this ship's gonna be the
[36:41] Speaker 3: fucking best ever, and that just like fails and I'm like,
[36:43] Speaker 3: oh well, yeah, I'm like stort again, this gonna be
[36:46] Speaker 3: the best, Like and I just like, I just like,
[36:49] Speaker 3: won't I refuse to quit? Yeah, I don't give a fuck.
[36:51] Speaker 3: I'll phil every day. I don't give two ships that
[36:54] Speaker 3: I care successful. I'm like I'm shameless than that. Like
[36:57] Speaker 3: I don't care about failure at all. Like it's like,
[37:00] Speaker 3: do you care about failure? Does it crush you?
[37:01] Speaker 1: I've had it crush me before when I go up.
[37:05] Speaker 1: I bombed on stage the other night doing stand up,
[37:07] Speaker 1: not last night but last week, and it used to
[37:10] Speaker 1: crush me. And now I just look at my jokes
[37:15] Speaker 1: like totally objectively. I'll just be like, all right, I'm
[37:18] Speaker 1: gonna do this, this, this, this, And I went up
[37:20] Speaker 1: on stage, and I had my notes with me, and
[37:22] Speaker 1: I was just like, but da da da dah. I
[37:23] Speaker 1: did one joke and went well. Then I was like, great,
[37:25] Speaker 1: that joke works. And then I was like blah blah
[37:27] Speaker 1: blah crickets and I was like that joke made work.
[37:30] Speaker 1: And then I was like, but da da da, Okay,
[37:32] Speaker 1: that joke still got some fucking gas in it. Now
[37:35] Speaker 1: it's like just objective, like I don't take it personally.
[37:37] Speaker 1: I'm just like uh huh huh. And then I'll go
[37:39] Speaker 1: back and I'll listen to the voice memo and I'll
[37:41] Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I stuttered over that word, and
[37:43] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's too harsh for the audience's ears.
[37:45] Speaker 1: I should reorder that. I just look at it completely objectively.
[37:48] Speaker 3: What if you make like a movie and it just bombed,
[37:50] Speaker 3: soul crushing, shout soul crushing.
[37:53] Speaker 1: I've only made one movie and it did well, but
[37:55] Speaker 1: it didn't make any money. So I did it? Did
[37:58] Speaker 1: it bombed and did well simultaneously?
[38:00] Speaker 3: Do you read like reviews, Like if somebody said, like
[38:02] Speaker 3: a bad review about Eric Andre show, are you crushed?
[38:05] Speaker 1: What we did for Netflix? We took all the bad
[38:07] Speaker 1: reviews and we put it as part of the marketing.
[38:09] Speaker 1: So it's like, this movie's disgusting times, this movie's fucking
[38:13] Speaker 1: written by children New York But whatever, you know what
[38:15] Speaker 1: I mean? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes I'll tell my publicists, like,
[38:20] Speaker 1: don't send me the bad reviews.
[38:21] Speaker 3: I'm not would your publicier send you the bad review
[38:24] Speaker 3: all the time? That's crazy.
[38:26] Speaker 1: He'll go, he'll go, and he has him in order.
[38:28] Speaker 1: It'll be like great, overwhelmingly great, good, medium, mixed, unfavorable, brutal.
[38:36] Speaker 1: They'll have them online and do you go. You go
[38:38] Speaker 1: right for the brute. Used to go right for the brutal.
[38:40] Speaker 1: Now I started protecting myself against that stuff early on.
[38:43] Speaker 1: It depends. It depends like when the when something first
[38:45] Speaker 1: comes out, that's when you're the most sensitive. And then
[38:48] Speaker 1: with time you can stomach the bad reviews. But sometimes
[38:51] Speaker 1: bad reviews are good for you. You want to look at,
[38:53] Speaker 1: like all the negative feedback and see where there's commonalities
[38:57] Speaker 1: and take that as a note, be like, you know what,
[39:00] Speaker 1: we shouldn't do a scene like that again. So it's
[39:03] Speaker 1: not all about it's not all about the best. The
[39:06] Speaker 1: best was The New York Times reviewer ripped us a
[39:09] Speaker 1: new asshole. That's tough because the Times you wanted times,
[39:12] Speaker 1: which good for bad trip. Then the New York Times
[39:16] Speaker 1: Sunday section came back for like whatever, the lifestyle or
[39:19] Speaker 1: whatever and gave us like the best review ever. So
[39:23] Speaker 1: it was like, oh, there's inner New York Times turmoil.
[39:25] Speaker 1: And it was like such a victory because it's like
[39:28] Speaker 1: the Sunday section they don't need to report on. It
[39:30] Speaker 1: wasn't like a movie reviewer. It was like just like
[39:33] Speaker 1: lifestyle and whatever the fuck, and he gave us a
[39:36] Speaker 1: fucking awesome review and it was such a fucking victory.
[39:39] Speaker 1: I was like, hell, yes, you want like the New
[39:42] Speaker 1: York Times. I don't even want that shit. That's a
[39:43] Speaker 1: shit your printing frame, you know.
[39:45] Speaker 3: Of course, my mom, like my mom actually thinks I
[39:49] Speaker 3: thought I was like nothing until I was like a
[39:52] Speaker 3: backup on s and now. One time, dude, one time, Oh,
[39:57] Speaker 3: actually I have a good one. One time I'm playing
[40:01] Speaker 3: a show and uh, we're on stage and it's front
[40:05] Speaker 3: of like twenty thousand people, okay, and it's with the
[40:09] Speaker 3: band and I'm they're all playing and I'm controlling all
[40:13] Speaker 3: of the music, so like so like you know, how
[40:15] Speaker 3: like people played a track and like and I am
[40:18] Speaker 3: in controlling the entire thing, and I have like a
[40:22] Speaker 3: real computer that's like it's like plugged dan and stuff,
[40:27] Speaker 3: and this guy is like playing a guitar. He's so
[40:30] Speaker 3: fucked up and he's like and he's like boo and
[40:33] Speaker 3: then knocks out my plug and the computer shuts out
[40:38] Speaker 3: and they're like just like because there's no track, and
[40:42] Speaker 3: then I'm like fuck and it's like we're completely empty.
[40:45] Speaker 3: And then I go to plug it back in and
[40:47] Speaker 3: we're we're at like a festival and it literally when
[40:50] Speaker 3: the computer turns on, it was like.
[40:55] Speaker 2: It was like.
[40:57] Speaker 3: Everyone was so sick when it happened, but it was like,
[41:05] Speaker 3: but yeah, it's like three oh three at the time,
[41:09] Speaker 3: it was at Warped tour headline, like just like fucked
[41:13] Speaker 3: we just fucked it off. Like it's just like yeah,
[41:15] Speaker 3: I'm just like, dude, we're getting like crushed every day
[41:18] Speaker 3: every day. His crush every day is just like a full,
[41:22] Speaker 3: a full like just melt down, just like I'm I'm
[41:26] Speaker 3: like melting down and having the time of my life
[41:28] Speaker 3: at all time. Like you know, when you look at
[41:31] Speaker 3: like in music, you got.
[41:33] Speaker 1: To lose, you gotta do it. You gotta try, try
[41:35] Speaker 1: and fail, don't.
[41:36] Speaker 3: Know, comedies like this, Like, but like I can, depending
[41:39] Speaker 3: on like a day, like I can like look at
[41:41] Speaker 3: myself and just be like, dude, this is the best
[41:43] Speaker 3: album like I've ever made, and then like the next day,
[41:46] Speaker 3: I can just be like this trash, like my career
[41:48] Speaker 3: is over totally, like and it's.
[41:49] Speaker 1: Just like I'll write a joke and I'll be like,
[41:51] Speaker 1: I'm a fucking genius. Yeah, I wrote the best joke
[41:53] Speaker 1: in the world, and then I will say it on
[41:56] Speaker 1: stage and it will bomb horribly. I'm like, I'm a
[41:59] Speaker 1: fucking ass. I'm a loser. This joke, Fuck this jokes.
[42:05] Speaker 1: I met up a fucking loser. Yeah.
[42:06] Speaker 3: What's your biggest bomb?
[42:07] Speaker 1: Have you said it on the pod a million times?
[42:09] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[42:10] Speaker 1: I like bombed opening up for Chris Rock. You know what,
[42:12] Speaker 1: there's so many bombs in the beginning, That's what I'm
[42:14] Speaker 1: saying that. It's like it's kind of like when you
[42:16] Speaker 1: were like, yeah, yeah, I got beat up at a
[42:18] Speaker 1: freestyle wrap. It's like, yeah, yeah, I got a bottle
[42:20] Speaker 1: thrown at me and a knife pull out him. I'm like,
[42:22] Speaker 1: it's kind of all a blur to me. It's like, yeah,
[42:25] Speaker 1: it's like another day at the office.
[42:26] Speaker 3: So you're just bombing at all times.
[42:29] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Benny Blanco, Bye.
[42:35] Speaker 2: With aer Condred.
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