# Finding Joy

An episode of [Record Live Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1697799491), 13 Jun 2024, 36 min.

Audio: https://media.transistor.fm/a58014d2/59d815f0.mp3

What is joy? How do we have more of it in our lives and can we experience it even when times are hard? Join us as we unpack these questions with counsellor, speaker, author, and musician, Dr Jennifer Jill Schwirzer.

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