# Shutdown America: A CNN Town Hall with Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

An episode of [The Source with Kaitlan Collins](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1696974077), 16 Oct 2025, 1 h 25 min.

Audio: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/swap.fm/track/2nzGkisFXQswLYT5s325/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY1198154248.mp3?updated=1760585459

Two weeks into the government shutdown, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took questions from a live studio audience. Kaitlan Collins moderated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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