# Maarten Paes: Ajax Goalkeeper on Investing While You’re Playing & Representing Indonesia (Ep137)

An episode of [Business of Sport](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1690597762), 15 Sep 2026, 1 h 03 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/1090bf2d4/podcast/play/125768900/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-15%2F431939712-44100-2-7562ef0d6da22.mp3

Maarten Paes plays for Ajax and the Indonesian national team as a goalkeeper, at least that is what most of the bios will say. What they won’t tell you is that alongside his career as a professional footballer, he is also building a career in business and investment, and the approach he has taken to making himself more than his performance on the pitch is a story we had to cover on the show. There is a shifting attitude in dressing rooms that, in Maarten’s own words, is moving away from the macho discussions on who has the best car or most expensive watch to what they’re up to away from the game. We have discussed it at length on previous shows with the likes of Petr Cech, Pat Cummins, Matt Smith, Bryan Habana, but everyone’s approach is different. Maarten’s football career alongside this ambition is equally interesting; he spent four years in the MLS with Dallas and has qualified to play for the Indonesian National Team through his grandmother. Put it all together and we have another great example of a top sportsperson with a bucket load more to offer. We’re delighted to welcome Maarten to the Business of Sport. Maarten's Favourite Books: Ryan Holiday - Ego is the Enemy Ryan Holiday - Obstacle is the Way Chris Bosh - Letters to a Young Athlete Robin Sharma - the Wealth Money can't buy Atomic Habits - James Clear A huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: Airwallex The intelligent financial platform for global businesses https://www.airwallex.com/uk/ Gemini We empower the most confident sports organisations on Earth https://geminisports.ai/ If you’re interested in partnering with the show, please reach out to us at bos@20vc.com

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