# Gil's Arena Reacts To The De'Aaron Fox Trade Rumors

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 28 Jan 2025, 2 h 41 min.

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Gil's Arena Breaks Down A WILD Night In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to a jam packed night in Adam Silver's NBA, kicking things off by reacting to a vintage Klay Thompson performance where the former Splash Brother found the greatness within himself and showed he can still get buckets with the Dallas Mavericks. They then react to the best game of the night where the Houston Rockets took down the Boston Celtics and both teams showed they may be heading in opposite directions as we get closer to the NBA Playoffs. Next, they react to the tough news of LaMelo Ball's injury in the middle of his breakout season and debate if Jordan Poole should be the one to take his place in the All Star Game before breaking down the struggles of Poole's former team the Golden State Warriors as Steph Curry & Co. fall to 10-20 in their last 30 games. They break down how the Dubs have to decide quickly if they want to bolster their roster with a potential Jimmy Butler trade before finally reacting to another whack lineup for the 2025 NBA All Star Game. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/ARENA and get on your way to being your best self. If you need to hire for your business and want an easier way to find qualified candidates, head to https://ZipRecruiter.com/GIL to try for FREE. SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2min Counter 0:00:00 Intro 0:02:00 Josiah Congratulates Gil & Alijah 0:07:58 Klay's Vintage Bucket Getting 0:09:55 Kenyon COOKS On College vs The G-League 0:26:44 Anthony Davis DOMINATES The Hornets 0:53:14 Breaking News - De'Aaron Fox Trade Rumors 1:16:39 Rockets & Amen Thompson Beat Celtics 1:28:35 Amen Thompson Is A Future Star 1:45:01 Do The Celtics Need To Panic?? 1:55:19 Eastern Conference Predictions 2:01:07 Does The Media Watch Games? 2:07:46 Is Jordan Poole An All Star? 2:09:50 Kyrie Irving Is Unc 2:22:57 Kenyon Finally Listened To Kendrick 2:28:41 MostlyFans 2:33:55 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, boy!
[0:07] Speaker 2: Another productive day in the arena. Good to see you
[0:09] Speaker 2: gentlemen up in here. I see everybody got their... I mean,
[0:12] Speaker 2: you got the Gil's Arena merch flourishing. I mean, you
[0:17] Speaker 2: almost said everybody. I'm like, it's just two. That's what
[0:20] Speaker 2: you got. The Jackie.
[0:22] Speaker 3: Yep.
[0:23] Speaker 2: The I Hate Sneakers. Shout out to I Hate Sneakers
[0:24] Speaker 2: that came through last week. Blessed us with some merchandise
[0:27] Speaker 2: of goods.
[0:28] Speaker 3: See?
[0:29] Speaker 1: Jackie shirt flourishing. Yeah, man, congratulations.
[0:34] Speaker 3: You and your family, man. I love you. Appreciate it,
[0:36] Speaker 3: appreciate it. I saw y'all yesterday, man. That's an amazing thing, man.
[0:41] Speaker 1: That's awesome, dog.
[0:42] Speaker 2: But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:44] Speaker 1: As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[0:45] Speaker 3: What up, what up? What up? That's it. That's the one.
[0:52] Speaker 3: That's the one that got your ass. That's the one
[0:55] Speaker 3: that got me banging.
[0:56] Speaker 1: That's the one that got you.
[0:58] Speaker 2: Seated next to Gil, representing the Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B,
[1:03] Speaker 2: Brandon Jennings is in the house.
[1:07] Speaker 3: And we got former.
[1:08] Speaker 1: Number one pick, the bully from Oak Cliff, Texas, Canyon Martin.
[1:13] Speaker 1: When you come from the bully, get bullied.
[1:16] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[1:17] Speaker 1: That's your underdog name, Oak Cliff Bully. I'm talking about?
[1:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:20] Speaker 1: Getting new pickles, flourishing.
[1:22] Speaker 2: And for all the fans out there, we still got
[1:24] Speaker 2: two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, a vertical
[1:26] Speaker 2: mobile version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just
[1:28] Speaker 2: make sure you watch the show. But here's what's cracking
[1:31] Speaker 2: in the arena today. Anthony Davis had his fifth career
[1:34] Speaker 2: 40-20 game to give the Lakers their fourth straight win.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Can the Lakers rely on this version of A.D. for
[1:40] Speaker 2: the rest of the season? We need it, please. You
[1:43] Speaker 2: can have the keys. You can be number one, two, three, four,
[1:46] Speaker 2: and five. You keep playing like this, A.D. With a
[1:49] Speaker 2: 10-20 record in their last 30 games, the Dubs are
[1:51] Speaker 2: looking more like the Ls. What do the Warriors need
[1:54] Speaker 2: to do to do right by Steph?
[1:56] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[1:58] Speaker 2: And the Celtics are 5-5 in their last 10 games.
[2:00] Speaker 2: How concerned should the defending champs be with their recent struggles?
[2:03] Speaker 2: But before we get into all that, as always, the
[2:05] Speaker 2: show is brought to you by Underdog. The best app
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[2:25] Speaker 1: So as for tonight, Brandon has some picks up in
[2:27] Speaker 1: his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look.
[2:30] Speaker 1: This could be your six for six. What are we
[2:32] Speaker 1: doing tonight?
[2:32] Speaker 3: Currently.
[2:33] Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you added one more to it. Let's go.
[2:34] Speaker 1: You're trying to get that four, Pete. We ain't gonna
[2:37] Speaker 1: play tonight.
[2:37] Speaker 3: We got hit in the shit last night.
[2:40] Speaker 1: This shit might be shut.
[2:42] Speaker 2: You got Jalen Green higher, 2.5 assists. If he can see,
[2:45] Speaker 2: he can pass.
[2:46] Speaker 1: He can see, he can pass. So if he don't play,
[2:49] Speaker 1: it just can't happen. I just want you to know, yeah,
[2:52] Speaker 1: he got hit in the shit last night.
[2:53] Speaker 2: You got Anthony Davis higher, 24.5 points. Lakers at Sixers.
[2:58] Speaker 1: Phil ain't got nobody to guard him over there, unfortunately.
[3:01] Speaker 1: So here's a little tidbit for you.
[3:04] Speaker 2: AD has averaged exactly 24.5 points per game versus Sixers
[3:08] Speaker 2: in his career.
[3:10] Speaker 1: I'm going to get 25 tonight. 25. It is the six.
[3:13] Speaker 1: You got Steph Curry. Higher, 6.5 assists. Warriors are at
[3:17] Speaker 1: the Jazz. Yeah, they be doubling Steph a lot.
[3:19] Speaker 3: They need one.
[3:19] Speaker 1: So it's like, so I think his assists will go up.
[3:22] Speaker 1: You got Dame Lillard. Higher, 2.5. Three-pointers made. At Portland.
[3:26] Speaker 1: Going back to his stomping grounds.
[3:28] Speaker 3: In Portland. Come on, witch. Yeah, familiarity.
[3:31] Speaker 1: At Portland, too, tonight? Man, you know he's going to
[3:33] Speaker 1: be shooting that thing.
[3:34] Speaker 3: What?
[3:34] Speaker 1: You're going to get that shit in the first quarter.
[3:36] Speaker 2: You take this partner pack, you get 5.74 times your
[3:38] Speaker 2: bread if it hits. I got faith in you, Mr. B,
[3:41] Speaker 2: but let's see what the chat thinks. So we asked
[3:44] Speaker 2: the chat if they're riding or fading. 67% of the
[3:49] Speaker 2: chat has faith in Mr. B and his partner pack tonight.
[3:52] Speaker 2: We appreciate the chat. We are getting more aligned as
[3:55] Speaker 2: a family, our crew here, and you watching wherever you're
[3:57] Speaker 2: watching at. Appreciate the support. If you like these picks,
[4:00] Speaker 2: head on to the Underdog app. And if you don't
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[4:04] Speaker 2: $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. We've also
[4:07] Speaker 2: started tracking our picks since everybody got in on the
[4:10] Speaker 2: partner packs.
[4:10] Speaker 1: Well, almost everybody. Let's take a look. Almost everybody. Gil,
[4:15] Speaker 1: 31 for 39 in picks.
[4:17] Speaker 3: 80%.
[4:18] Speaker 1: 2.6 times your breadwinner.
[4:22] Speaker 3: This ain't it, man.
[4:23] Speaker 1: Can you still hold firm at 80%?
[4:24] Speaker 3: 6 to 8.
[4:24] Speaker 1: There ain't enough picks, though.
[4:27] Speaker 3: I went 15 and 2. Went 4 and 0 yesterday.
[4:31] Speaker 3: You're still part of your 31 to 39. Nah. 6
[4:32] Speaker 3: to 8, hold on. That's 3 for 4, that's... Only because,
[4:38] Speaker 3: so I guess I did one on Sunday.
[4:40] Speaker 1: I did one on Sunday.
[4:42] Speaker 3: It went three and one, but they didn't add it
[4:45] Speaker 3: because they didn't get to add it to the site.
[4:46] Speaker 3: And I'm like, that shit count.
[4:48] Speaker 1: That went three and one.
[4:49] Speaker 3: When is Nick going to make some picks?
[4:51] Speaker 1: Swaggy still holding out. Bashaw, six for seven, 86%.
[4:53] Speaker 2: He's won 6.2 times his bread.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Brandon still hard and firm, six for seven.
[4:58] Speaker 2: I'm going to get to seven for seven tonight. 100%,
[5:02] Speaker 2: 7.7 times your bread. And as you pointed out, Swaggy,
[5:04] Speaker 2: donuts across the board. Still holding out.
[5:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, did Jalen Hurts. But they count yours, like, individually, though.
[5:13] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[5:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, the picks. So the picks are individual. Yeah, the
[5:16] Speaker 3: individual picks.
[5:17] Speaker 2: But you're 100%, so you've hit on both of your
[5:19] Speaker 2: partner pack.
[5:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, you've hit 12 and over.
[5:21] Speaker 2: Partner pack is maneuver. As always, we do Mostly Fans
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[5:41] Speaker 2: a lot to get into, but first, before we start,
[5:43] Speaker 2: I just want to take a moment. So Gil, I've
[5:45] Speaker 2: been working with you now close to four years.
[5:47] Speaker 3: Damn.
[5:48] Speaker 2: From No Chill all the way to... Yeah, nah, about,
[5:51] Speaker 2: you know, I think October, whatever it is. But from
[5:53] Speaker 2: No Chill all the way to the beginning of Gil's Arena,
[5:55] Speaker 2: we've had a lot of tremendous moments here on this program,
[5:58] Speaker 2: on this couch, abroad, at Summer League. But I just
[6:00] Speaker 2: want to take a moment. I think yesterday, for me,
[6:02] Speaker 2: probably my favorite moment since working with you, being on
[6:05] Speaker 2: this couch, to see Elijah get announced as 2025 McDonald's All-American.
[6:10] Speaker 1: Just the emotion, the excitement. Remember him when he.
[6:12] Speaker 2: Was 13, 14 years old when I first met you,
[6:14] Speaker 2: just kind of rolling through the house, big lanky ass,
[6:17] Speaker 2: just roaming around, to now rolling out full McDonald's fit.
[6:20] Speaker 2: But to see the look on your face, look on
[6:22] Speaker 2: everybody else's on the face's couch, and just the family
[6:25] Speaker 2: aspect component of it. I remember season one, Halloween, we
[6:29] Speaker 2: all had to come dressed up. You found out KJ
[6:32] Speaker 2: got traded, obviously very emotional at that point, still pulled up,
[6:34] Speaker 2: wore his Halloween costume.
[6:36] Speaker 1: Just to show your love.
[6:38] Speaker 2: But, you know, I just think about the things and
[6:39] Speaker 2: the importance of family. So for me seeing that moment,
[6:43] Speaker 2: probably my favorite moment, you know, working with you being
[6:45] Speaker 2: a part of this whole thing. And I think obviously
[6:46] Speaker 2: cool for the chat and the audience and everybody to
[6:48] Speaker 2: be able to share it with Elijah and to see
[6:50] Speaker 2: him cheesing over there.
[6:52] Speaker 3: Big smile. Big smile.
[6:55] Speaker 2: To know you set out to go to accomplish it.
[6:56] Speaker 2: And that brings me to another announcement. So if you
[6:59] Speaker 2: saw the news today, The entire cast is re-upped here
[7:02] Speaker 2: on Gil's Arena.
[7:03] Speaker 1: Shout out to Bread Wife. We're going to be keeping
[7:06] Speaker 1: it going.
[7:06] Speaker 2: Shout out to Jeremy Levine and everybody over at Underdog
[7:08] Speaker 2: for believing in the vision. Shout out to all the
[7:10] Speaker 2: fans who support the show to keep this thing moving, man.
[7:13] Speaker 3: We really, really appreciate y'all.
[7:15] Speaker 1: Y'all can't quit us now.
[7:17] Speaker 2: We got a lot left to do, but have some
[7:20] Speaker 2: great moments to come.
[7:24] Speaker 1: That wasn't in the script.
[7:24] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if they cancel us.
[7:26] Speaker 1: It don't matter. It don't matter.
[7:28] Speaker 4: We're still going to push live.
[7:33] Speaker 1: Underdog, I'd like to let you know that they are
[7:35] Speaker 1: still waiting for their contract to be re-upped as well.
[7:38] Speaker 1: We're going to still push live.
[7:41] Speaker 2: We're going to go live no matter what. You're going
[7:43] Speaker 2: to see us whether you want to or not.
[7:45] Speaker 3: Rain, sleet, hail, or snow.
[7:47] Speaker 2: If you know one thing, you're going to be live
[7:49] Speaker 2: at somewhere at some point in the day, every single
[7:51] Speaker 2: day of the week. But let's get into it. So
[7:55] Speaker 2: we got one of the more fun moments from last
[7:57] Speaker 2: night's action. Klay Thompson showed the basketball world he can
[8:00] Speaker 2: still get the microwave going on occasion. Now, granted, it
[8:03] Speaker 2: was against the Wizards, but it still counts. Let's see
[8:07] Speaker 2: the highlights. Klay doing his thing. He came out the
[8:10] Speaker 2: gate on fire, hitting seven threes in the first quarter
[8:14] Speaker 2: in a win over.
[8:15] Speaker 1: The Wizards last night. Hey, man.
[8:17] Speaker 3: Hey. That's a.
[8:20] Speaker 1: That's how you get your shit right. All it takes
[8:22] Speaker 1: is two, three of them in a playoff series to
[8:23] Speaker 1: get you.
[8:25] Speaker 3: To the finals.
[8:26] Speaker 1: Look, good to see Clay still got it.
[8:28] Speaker 2: So he outscored the Wizards 21-16 by himself in that
[8:32] Speaker 2: time frame, tying the second most threes he's ever made
[8:35] Speaker 2: in a quarter in his career.
[8:37] Speaker 1: So at this point, y'all don't want to put two
[8:40] Speaker 1: on him. It's the Wizards case. I get it, but
[8:43] Speaker 1: at this, like, I understand who it is. But at
[8:46] Speaker 1: some point, you got to pay him some attention. I
[8:49] Speaker 1: ain't saying you want to just flat out change it,
[8:52] Speaker 1: but at some point, you just want to pay small
[8:54] Speaker 1: attention to him. Somebody on the floor. Coach staff might
[8:58] Speaker 1: not tell you to do it, but somebody on the floor, like, listen, man,
[9:00] Speaker 1: I got it. I'm going to face guard it. Listen, hey,
[9:02] Speaker 1: y'all guard it. Hey, I'm going to face guard it. Hey,
[9:05] Speaker 1: whatever we got to do, I'm going to run through
[9:07] Speaker 1: a screen.
[9:07] Speaker 3: Listen, whatever....
[9:10] Speaker 1: Something.
[9:11] Speaker 3: Try. Try. Can you face guard now with the way
[9:17] Speaker 3: the game is played?
[9:19] Speaker 1: Man, I played boxing ones out here.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Oh, they have? In the league.
[9:23] Speaker 1: I just thought about it, yeah. I seen it.
[9:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm watching.
[9:26] Speaker 1: They playing boxing?
[9:27] Speaker 3: Yes. They playing high school basketball.
[9:29] Speaker 1: Boxing one. I mean, that's how they playing. So he
[9:32] Speaker 1: got it going like that. Boxing one to his ass.
[9:36] Speaker 1: Who else out there winning? Please replay this.
[9:39] Speaker 3: Let's see it again.
[9:40] Speaker 1: Let's see it again.
[9:41] Speaker 3: One time, Paolo, please. Shout out to, listen. Kyrie. Kyrie
[9:45] Speaker 3: out there. Kyrie out there. Right here.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Still no looking. Kyrie out there. Kyrie still out there.
[9:53] Speaker 1: Look how they're going, Kyrie.
[9:54] Speaker 3: Look. Hold on.
[9:55] Speaker 1: Go back.
[9:55] Speaker 2: Go back.
[9:56] Speaker 3: Go back. Go back.
[9:56] Speaker 1: Go back.
[9:57] Speaker 3: Go back.
[9:57] Speaker 1: Go back. Let's start it over. Let's just start this
[9:59] Speaker 1: shit over. Back it to the left. See, this is
[10:02] Speaker 1: the problem, right? Kyrie ain't nowhere in the play, right?
[10:06] Speaker 3: Zero.
[10:06] Speaker 1: Who you guarding, right?
[10:09] Speaker 3: Right now. What is... Go back. Go back.
[10:12] Speaker 1: What the fuck is Jordan Poole doing? And the guy
[10:13] Speaker 1: that Jordan... Who the big that's guarding Spencer Dinwiddie right now?
[10:16] Speaker 3: Who is this guy?
[10:17] Speaker 1: That's a good question, K.
[10:20] Speaker 3: Okay, cool. All right, go.
[10:21] Speaker 1: As you know, it is the Wizards. Yeah, I'm about
[10:23] Speaker 1: to say it's the Wizards. Clayton shoot the shit out
[10:24] Speaker 1: the ball. We do not care.
[10:26] Speaker 3: No, I don't give a fuck.
[10:26] Speaker 1: Clayton shoot the shit out the ball.
[10:27] Speaker 3: We all know that. Good defense. No.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Was that Jordan Poole trying to guard? Terrible. Good defense.
[10:33] Speaker 1: Was that Poole trying to guard?
[10:33] Speaker 3: Not really. Yeah, that's Jordan Poole. Now, hold on. Back, back.
[10:38] Speaker 1: See, this is, fuck all this, man. I guess they thought.
[10:42] Speaker 1: This boy threw this ball. Look where Spencer Dinwiddie threw
[10:45] Speaker 1: this ball from. Yeah, you're supposed to double that. Look
[10:50] Speaker 1: where this boy threw this ball from, man. Yeah, you're
[10:53] Speaker 1: supposed to double that.
[10:55] Speaker 3: He already got it going. You got 15.
[10:56] Speaker 1: He already got it going. He out of the play
[11:01] Speaker 1: in everything.
[11:02] Speaker 3: Bring the camera.
[11:03] Speaker 1: Spencer Dinwiddie.
[11:04] Speaker 3: Impromptu.
[11:04] Speaker 1: Pass the ball from damn near half court. Why this
[11:10] Speaker 1: man ain't drop down? Not the next shot. Look, we
[11:16] Speaker 1: are a live show, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, we are
[11:18] Speaker 1: fucking live. We do what we do. Shout out to Clay.
[11:22] Speaker 1: I ain't even talking about it. I ain't taking nothing
[11:24] Speaker 1: from Clay. What are you doing? Why are you waiting
[11:27] Speaker 1: like that? Now, where is Clay now? What are you doing?
[11:29] Speaker 3: He got it going already.
[11:33] Speaker 1: Why is there a closeout? He got it going already.
[11:37] Speaker 3: Jump him!
[11:41] Speaker 1: Jump him defensively.
[11:43] Speaker 3: Jump him!
[11:44] Speaker 1: Because Jordan Poole is on the court. You already know.
[11:46] Speaker 3: He got it going.
[11:49] Speaker 1: Let's pay him some attention. Okay, Clay, keep shooting that
[11:54] Speaker 1: goddamn face off.
[11:55] Speaker 2: As I point out, those seven threes in a quarter
[11:58] Speaker 2: is tied for the second most threes he's ever made
[12:00] Speaker 2: in a quarter in his career. Of course, Clay once
[12:02] Speaker 2: made nine threes in a 37-point quarter.
[12:05] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[12:05] Speaker 1: Both NBA records.
[12:07] Speaker 2: But after this came, Clay had this to say about
[12:10] Speaker 2: busting the wizard's ass. He said, when you do something
[12:13] Speaker 2: like that, it reminds you that there's greatness still within.
[12:16] Speaker 2: So when you do something like that, it reminds you
[12:18] Speaker 2: that there's greatness still within.
[12:20] Speaker 3: That's the last thing to go.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the Warriors did not appreciate that greatness. Well, he
[12:24] Speaker 1: got the best tool in sports you can have.
[12:30] Speaker 3: You shoot.
[12:31] Speaker 1: That's the last thing to go.
[12:33] Speaker 3: And that's why it's so weird that he's been struggling.
[12:37] Speaker 3: That's why it's like, this is all mental. But whatever...
[12:39] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's more mental than anything
[12:42] Speaker 3: because you're talking about a guy who probably put up
[12:44] Speaker 3: 500,000 shots a day.
[12:45] Speaker 1: The only people that didn't know.
[12:46] Speaker 3: This shit is here.
[12:48] Speaker 1: The only people that didn't know this shit was going
[12:49] Speaker 1: to come out of this was the fucking Warriors. I
[12:53] Speaker 1: think that's what it was. Yeah, the mentally... I think
[12:55] Speaker 1: it's just mentally... He was checked out in Golden State.
[12:57] Speaker 3: He was checked out.
[12:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, once you're checked out, it's... They've been
[13:01] Speaker 1: fucking with him for a year now. He's been fucking
[13:04] Speaker 1: with me for a year. My mental's not right around here.
[13:07] Speaker 1: I'm putting so much pressure on every shot, mechanics, whatever
[13:11] Speaker 1: it is, right?
[13:11] Speaker 3: With him. Come on, man.
[13:13] Speaker 1: They still don't have Luka yet.
[13:14] Speaker 3: Shoot the shit out that ball. I mean, history has
[13:17] Speaker 3: shown when a player is trying to play for his contract,
[13:23] Speaker 3: it don't look very well. Right?
[13:26] Speaker 1: Especially if it's... For some. Yeah, you know what I mean?
[13:29] Speaker 3: Like... For some others. Your first contract, yeah, motherfuckers out there. But, like,
[13:33] Speaker 3: you know, like, something that's going to finish your legacy. Yeah.
[13:36] Speaker 3: We've seen how this look. We've seen how Jimmy Butler look.
[13:39] Speaker 3: We can see when the motherfuckers out here stressing. Yeah.
[13:42] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[13:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:45] Speaker 2: So, Klay shooting 39% from three this season, 41.2% career shooter.
[13:51] Speaker 2: Perhaps the most interesting stat from that game, seven threes
[13:54] Speaker 2: in the first quarter, 21 points. Finish the game with
[13:57] Speaker 2: 23 points.
[13:58] Speaker 1: Of course.
[13:58] Speaker 3: Okay.
[13:59] Speaker 1: I mean, they did something different. They did something different.
[14:02] Speaker 1: They started guarding him different. I'm trying to go for 84. Yeah,
[14:04] Speaker 1: they snagged him. Oh, yeah, so. They started guarding him different.
[14:08] Speaker 1: I guarantee you go show the rest of that game.
[14:11] Speaker 1: It was what I was saying just now. The coach
[14:13] Speaker 1: was like, hey, listen, who over there coaching? It was like, hey, man,
[14:16] Speaker 1: he got it going. Let's pay him some more attention here. Like,
[14:20] Speaker 1: he shouldn't for the end of the quarter for that
[14:23] Speaker 1: to kick in as players.
[14:24] Speaker 3: It was funny. When the playoffs come, all he need
[14:27] Speaker 3: is a couple quarters like that through a series. Yeah.
[14:32] Speaker 1: That just changes everything.
[14:33] Speaker 3: Like, it just... Because, I mean, with Clay, you already
[14:37] Speaker 3: know if he hits his first shot, this could be
[14:42] Speaker 3: one of these... It can be a heater, right? It's like,
[14:45] Speaker 3: once he hits his first one, it's either fire mode
[14:49] Speaker 3: or fire. But even the....
[14:54] Speaker 1: The fear that he is on that floor is enough,
[15:00] Speaker 1: because you have to defend it different when he's out there.
[15:03] Speaker 1: You have to defend the Mavericks different when you have
[15:06] Speaker 1: Luka out there and Kyrie and Klay. You have to
[15:09] Speaker 1: defend them different. I don't care what, like, you have to.
[15:13] Speaker 1: Because at any given moment, he can get it going,
[15:17] Speaker 1: as he's proven. He can get that shit going in
[15:20] Speaker 1: the quarter. We already know what the mother's too capable
[15:22] Speaker 1: of doing, right? But if he get it going. It's
[15:26] Speaker 1: a different. It's scary.
[15:29] Speaker 3: It is very different because unlike the other ones, This
[15:35] Speaker 3: one you can't actually really game plan for unless you
[15:40] Speaker 3: go to halftime and try to change it. There's no
[15:42] Speaker 3: loading up on Clay.
[15:44] Speaker 1: He's coming off screens.
[15:45] Speaker 3: If you're an inch behind him, he's shooting that shit.
[15:47] Speaker 1: So it's not like there's dribble.
[15:49] Speaker 3: We're going to trap him. And when he's making it,
[15:53] Speaker 3: they're seeking him, and that becomes the problem.
[15:55] Speaker 1: So when he's on fire.
[15:57] Speaker 3: He actually is the... the most dangerous player on the court.
[16:00] Speaker 1: Now you really out there playing one-on-one basketball because you
[16:03] Speaker 1: can't help. No, they're going to be dangerous in the playoffs.
[16:05] Speaker 3: Now, he is the most, like, whenever somebody's on fire
[16:08] Speaker 3: or you're losing, you worry about him.
[16:10] Speaker 1: With Luka, he's going to give you a chance. He's
[16:13] Speaker 1: going to sit here and bop with you. His time
[16:14] Speaker 1: is elapsing with the mother guy. Not with him.
[16:17] Speaker 3: Not with him.
[16:18] Speaker 1: He scored 11.
[16:19] Speaker 3: Dribbles, man. With Curry and Kevin Durant.
[16:25] Speaker 1: Like, that should have told us everything. Anything we needed
[16:28] Speaker 1: to know. The third option, 60? Goddamn. With 11 dribbles.
[16:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[16:35] Speaker 1: So, Clay, fifth all-time.
[16:36] Speaker 3: That's the most impressive shit ever.
[16:38] Speaker 1: Fifth all-time three-pointers made.
[16:40] Speaker 3: Scoring 60 points with Kevin Durant and Curry on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. Like,
[16:48] Speaker 3: they're actually in the game. That's not heard of. That's
[16:52] Speaker 3: how good they were.
[16:53] Speaker 1: That's how good they were.
[16:53] Speaker 3: That's not heard of, right?
[16:55] Speaker 2: So, like I said, Clay, fifth all-time career three-pointers made,
[16:59] Speaker 2: but missed 137 games during that stretch due to injury.
[17:03] Speaker 1: So, odds are it'll be a little bit higher.
[17:05] Speaker 2: Can you talk about the fear you have to have
[17:07] Speaker 2: when a guy like Clay is on the court as
[17:09] Speaker 2: a defender? But where is Clay on your list of
[17:11] Speaker 2: the top shooters ever?
[17:13] Speaker 1: Oh, he's one of the.
[17:15] Speaker 3: Top five. Top five.
[17:16] Speaker 1: One of the greatest shooters ever. Yeah. Like, it doesn't.
[17:21] Speaker 1: The mechanics don't change. The results are high. He is
[17:29] Speaker 1: one of few people that I could say to me, well,
[17:33] Speaker 1: I watch a lot of basketball, like, seen a lot
[17:35] Speaker 1: of shooters, a lot of people that couldn't shoot, could shoot,
[17:38] Speaker 1: became shooters. He's one of few people that every time
[17:42] Speaker 1: he shoot it, it looks like it's good. Like, some
[17:46] Speaker 1: people are like, that's a terrible fucking shot. Him, it
[17:49] Speaker 1: can be a bad shot, but it's on line because
[17:50] Speaker 1: his mechanics don't ever change. He's going to get scored
[17:53] Speaker 1: every single time. So he's one of them few people. Him, Allen, Houston.
[17:57] Speaker 1: There's certain people that when they shoot, he's like, oh,
[17:59] Speaker 1: that's Bucket.
[18:00] Speaker 3: Right?
[18:01] Speaker 1: Might be short, might be long, but it's on line
[18:03] Speaker 1: every time. And, yeah, so he is top five, one
[18:06] Speaker 1: of the greatest shooters to ever play this game.
[18:08] Speaker 2: Obviously, Clay in this time of the war is overshadowed
[18:10] Speaker 2: by Steph and everything he's been doing, but better shooting form,
[18:13] Speaker 2: in your opinion. Would you give Clay the nod over
[18:14] Speaker 2: Steph just in terms of what the form looks like?
[18:17] Speaker 3: If you're teaching a form, it's easier to teach, I mean,
[18:21] Speaker 3: it's harder to teach clays because that's perfection every single time.
[18:25] Speaker 3: But mechanically, it's easier to try to follow his mechanics
[18:30] Speaker 3: than it is Steph's.
[18:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Because this is like, everything is square. It's
[18:36] Speaker 1: straight up every time. It's not going to deviate. He
[18:39] Speaker 1: might be top three.
[18:41] Speaker 4: Just because of his, like, he ain't going to stop shooting. Like,
[18:46] Speaker 4: that's the thing. Like, that's the scary thing about him.
[18:49] Speaker 1: Leticism leaves first.
[18:51] Speaker 4: Like, if he's in a shooting competition, like, it's going
[18:55] Speaker 4: to be hard not to be like, put your money
[18:57] Speaker 4: on Klay.
[18:58] Speaker 2: So who would you put in front of Klay?
[19:04] Speaker 1: As a shooter? The greatest pure shooters.
[19:07] Speaker 3: For me, I'm going to have, you know, you got
[19:10] Speaker 3: to have Bird, Reggie. Because even though, like, when it
[19:18] Speaker 3: comes to shooting and being great at it, there has
[19:21] Speaker 3: to be situations like game winners and stuff. And I
[19:25] Speaker 3: don't know how many times he got to really just
[19:30] Speaker 3: finish games and hit game winners like a Reggie Miller.
[19:33] Speaker 1: And a Bird.
[19:35] Speaker 3: Yeah. So I will have them in front of him
[19:38] Speaker 3: and probably keep him at.
[19:39] Speaker 1: Four or five. I'm looking at the latest shooting for him.
[19:43] Speaker 4: Wait, Clayton hit no game winners in his career?
[19:46] Speaker 3: No, I mean, I just.
[19:47] Speaker 1: He has, but.
[19:48] Speaker 3: No, but just off the top. You remember, because he's a...
[19:50] Speaker 3: He's a second option.
[19:52] Speaker 1: He's a third option, right? It's not his fault.
[19:55] Speaker 3: It's just I got to.
[19:56] Speaker 1: The opportunity hasn't been there.
[19:57] Speaker 3: For him, too. That's the only reason. It's not because
[20:00] Speaker 3: I'm not... He's not capable. It's just I got to
[20:03] Speaker 3: give the guys who's... I got to, you know, you
[20:04] Speaker 3: got to... When you think of, like, Reggie, you have
[20:06] Speaker 3: the moment... instilled in your brain of what he did
[20:10] Speaker 3: to New York, right? You have those moments of greatness
[20:13] Speaker 3: at the end, you know, nine points in a couple seconds, like,
[20:17] Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
[20:17] Speaker 1: Or eight points in a couple seconds.
[20:18] Speaker 3: Like, you know, those moments, I don't have it, Clay.
[20:21] Speaker 3: I got the 60 points and 11 dribbles, but when
[20:24] Speaker 3: it came to the end of the game, unfortunately, because
[20:26] Speaker 3: where he was on a rotation... So you're just talking
[20:29] Speaker 3: about just shooting the ball.
[20:30] Speaker 1: But just shooting the ball flat out? Yeah, just shooting
[20:33] Speaker 1: the ball. Just flat out shooting that bitch? Because I'm
[20:35] Speaker 1: sure if he had that opportunity, like... I'm sure. That's
[20:38] Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but I can't just give it to him. See,
[20:39] Speaker 1: when somebody come to mind, like, when he's just flat-out shooting, like,
[20:42] Speaker 1: nothing else, motherfucker like Steve Novak.
[20:47] Speaker 3: Bruh. Hey, man. Dog. Hey, man. Talking about a release. Yeah. Fast. Efficient. Yeah. 6'9, 6'10.
[20:59] Speaker 1: If Steve Novak could guard anyone... Anyone here that been
[21:03] Speaker 1: on the court. Huh? Oh, he can play today, though. Yes, Lord,
[21:07] Speaker 1: he could.
[21:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
[21:09] Speaker 1: Steve Novak would make a whole lot of money in
[21:12] Speaker 1: today's NBA. How good was Kyle Corver? Shoot it. He
[21:18] Speaker 1: didn't get that bitch off fast. Jason Capono. Steve Novak, dog.
[21:23] Speaker 1: Taller than both of them.
[21:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to think about, like, Capono.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Capono got equipped.
[21:28] Speaker 3: Steve Nash. I mean, Steve Nash is a fucking shooter.
[21:31] Speaker 3: But they don't call him Game 6 Clay for nothing. Nope.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm just thinking of just flat-out shooting that ball.
[21:37] Speaker 1: For Sean Leonard.
[21:40] Speaker 3: Absolute. Mark Price. Is that Denver?
[21:43] Speaker 1: He was with me in Denver. He was there before you, right?
[21:45] Speaker 1: He was when I got there. No, Vo Leonard.
[21:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot the shit out that ball. So, Volina had
[21:51] Speaker 1: one of them quarters. How many Volina have in the quarter? 29, 27, 29, 30,
[21:54] Speaker 1: something like that? What's funny is... 31 in the quarter?
[21:58] Speaker 3: Because we play with these guys, we know who shoots
[22:01] Speaker 3: that shit. Yeah. They just didn't get the opportunities to
[22:04] Speaker 3: be out there just gunning. Yeah, for sure.
[22:06] Speaker 1: We had like 30... Let me see. It's up there.
[22:11] Speaker 1: And Andre Miller... Early Ray Allen? And Andre Miller should
[22:16] Speaker 1: have shooting games against Volina. Like Ray Allen.
[22:19] Speaker 3: I know he was.
[22:20] Speaker 1: Early Ray. Right, period. The only thing with Ray.
[22:25] Speaker 3: Is I even asked someone who's part of the shooting,
[22:28] Speaker 3: was part of Boston, they said because how he lifts
[22:33] Speaker 3: when he did like 100 shot challenges. Yeah. he'll have
[22:36] Speaker 3: like 86. And die out. And then 60-something. Yeah, die out. Yeah,
[22:41] Speaker 3: because he jumps so much, he fatigues himself.
[22:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a real jump shooter. Yeah, he was
[22:47] Speaker 1: a real, like, Courtney Alexander.
[22:48] Speaker 3: Yes. That motherfucker. Every time, like, dude, you good.
[22:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeez, let it go.
[22:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, them calves be getting a soaring and stuff, so
[22:55] Speaker 3: it was, like, if he's one of those guys that's like,
[22:58] Speaker 3: you do a tournament, and you got to keep shooting
[23:03] Speaker 3: a couple times that day. Yeah.
[23:06] Speaker 1: And Ray could shoot it, but that's, like, Ray was
[23:11] Speaker 1: a complete basketball player.
[23:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, he was athletic.
[23:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, athletic as shit.
[23:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a lot.
[23:19] Speaker 1: So the fact that he's on that three-point list is amazing.
[23:22] Speaker 1: He can shoot it, but he did so much more.
[23:26] Speaker 1: What about Dame Lillard?
[23:27] Speaker 3: Dame? Yeah. He shoot the shit out of it. It's effortless.
[23:31] Speaker 3: You know what's the point? Yeah, Dame.
[23:33] Speaker 1: He's up there in the top.
[23:34] Speaker 3: Huh? But it's effortless.
[23:36] Speaker 1: He don't use no effort to shoot it.
[23:39] Speaker 3: He don't jump.
[23:40] Speaker 1: He ain't shooting that much. That's what I'm saying. In
[23:42] Speaker 1: a shooting competition, he'll be up there.
[23:44] Speaker 3: Dirt.
[23:44] Speaker 1: I mean, you got to.
[23:46] Speaker 3: But I mean, just when you just think about it,
[23:49] Speaker 3: he's top five. McMood.
[23:50] Speaker 1: No, for sure. Shout out to McMood.
[23:55] Speaker 3: Shout out to McMood.
[23:56] Speaker 2: So to answer your question for Sean Leonard, once he
[23:58] Speaker 2: had 22 points in the quarter in 1995.
[24:00] Speaker 3: Denver game.
[24:01] Speaker 1: Denver.
[24:02] Speaker 3: Hold on. They're pulling it up.
[24:06] Speaker 1: I wouldn't know about fucking him scoring that many in 1995.
[24:08] Speaker 1: I was in high school.
[24:12] Speaker 3: Fuck.
[24:12] Speaker 1: Okay, you are an astute basketball historian.
[24:16] Speaker 3: I am, but I wouldn't. Would not fucking. Nah, y'all
[24:20] Speaker 3: got to tuck y'all chains in for that. Nah, I'm
[24:22] Speaker 3: just kidding. Mine's always tucked in. You didn't even know
[24:25] Speaker 3: I had a chain, okay?
[24:27] Speaker 1: He said, I'm going to tuck.
[24:28] Speaker 3: My eye in here. Tuck my eye in here. I
[24:31] Speaker 3: put it out with Kenyon Lee. Guys that can shoot
[24:34] Speaker 3: come through this thing, man. Kenyon, when you leave, we'll
[24:36] Speaker 3: be talking again. But let's keep this thing moving. Hold on.
[24:39] Speaker 1: I got a question. Y'all had a conversation yesterday.
[24:42] Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
[24:42] Speaker 1: We talked about it before. Me, you, Shaw, all of
[24:45] Speaker 1: us talked about the getting drafted thing, staying in school
[24:49] Speaker 1: versus not staying in school. I was watching y'all yesterday.
[24:52] Speaker 1: So does staying in school help you get better and
[24:55] Speaker 1: you chimed in? You ain't never been to school, so
[24:58] Speaker 1: you can't talk on it. Mm-hmm. So what pick was you? 31.
[25:04] Speaker 1: So how many years did you go?
[25:06] Speaker 3: Two.
[25:08] Speaker 1: So if you were to win one more, when they
[25:10] Speaker 1: was drafting us back then, if you were to win
[25:11] Speaker 1: one more year, right? Mm-hmm. Would you have the ball
[25:14] Speaker 1: in your hand a little more? No, because our point
[25:18] Speaker 1: guard was, he was all American McDonald's.
[25:20] Speaker 3: Who was that? Jason Gardner. So you would have to
[25:23] Speaker 3: play the two? Mm-hmm.
[25:25] Speaker 1: Y'all came in the same year, right? Yeah, we can't
[25:27] Speaker 1: miss him.
[25:27] Speaker 3: Oh, so, okay.
[25:28] Speaker 1: Cool, that's even better. Even better for my argument. So
[25:30] Speaker 1: you would have played the two? Mm-hmm. So you got
[25:33] Speaker 1: drafted 31? Mm-hmm. Do you think if you would have
[25:37] Speaker 1: stayed another year, it would help to draft Stock? Probably
[25:45] Speaker 1: the Stock, but the game, no.
[25:47] Speaker 3: Not the game. I didn't ask you that. The Stock?
[25:50] Speaker 1: So you would have won first round? Lottery, maybe? If
[25:53] Speaker 1: I wasn't acting ass, I would.
[25:55] Speaker 3: Have won first round.
[25:55] Speaker 1: Without no answers, I'm talking about your basketball game.
[25:58] Speaker 3: No, if I wouldn't have acted ass in pre-draft, I
[26:01] Speaker 3: would have won lottery.
[26:03] Speaker 1: That's why I came out. I was just being me.
[26:06] Speaker 1: But another year under your belt with what you knew already.
[26:09] Speaker 1: You had two years under your belt. You come in.
[26:17] Speaker 1: Your third year, you're... You feelin' yourself. You've gotten better,
[26:21] Speaker 1: you've helped your stock, you've come in your third year,
[26:23] Speaker 1: so you gon' average more, you gon' get more shots,
[26:27] Speaker 1: your coach believe in you more, you gon' get more minutes,
[26:29] Speaker 1: all these things, right? But you've gotten better. They believe
[26:32] Speaker 1: in you more. Now it's time for you to get drafted.
[26:36] Speaker 1: Now you got another year. This is the progression we've
[26:39] Speaker 1: seen freshman year, sophomore year, and junior year, right? That's
[26:45] Speaker 1: three years of you being Right? Whether it's two-point jump,
[26:52] Speaker 1: 17-point jump, whatever it is.
[26:53] Speaker 3: You get better.
[26:56] Speaker 1: So how can you be on the other side of
[26:58] Speaker 1: that now, though? Like, your development would have mattered if
[27:01] Speaker 1: you stayed in school. Because what happens is.
[27:09] Speaker 3: When I get drafted, everything is still, no matter what,
[27:13] Speaker 3: still faster, still stronger. And I still had to transition.
[27:17] Speaker 1: From being a two to being a point. All those
[27:20] Speaker 1: things still exist.
[27:20] Speaker 3: Yes.
[27:21] Speaker 1: But you are more prepared for it. Because you got another...
[27:26] Speaker 1: I got another. You've grown, but you're not saying that
[27:31] Speaker 1: you are ready for it.
[27:33] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. But you are more.
[27:35] Speaker 1: Prepared than you were as a sophomore when you got
[27:39] Speaker 1: drafted 31. Mm-hmm. that extra year of growth development prepared
[27:46] Speaker 1: you more. In their eyes, in the people that's picking
[27:50] Speaker 1: your eyes, you are more prepared. Not to say that
[27:53] Speaker 1: you're ready. Me, four years. Came out of high school
[27:58] Speaker 1: the same year as Kobe. Same year, 1996. Steven Jackson,
[28:02] Speaker 1: all of 1996 high school class. My freshman year, I.
[28:10] Speaker 1: Here, my sophomore year, my junior year, them dudes going
[28:18] Speaker 1: into their fourth year, right? I came in as the what?
[28:23] Speaker 1: Number one pick. My growth while they were, it was
[28:27] Speaker 1: the same. So my rookie year, I was prepared, I
[28:31] Speaker 1: was ready. In their eyes, the people that was picking eyes.
[28:35] Speaker 1: Darius Miles, same draft, right? Conversations of maybe him, but.
[28:47] Speaker 1: And that's where it comes in at. As long as
[28:51] Speaker 1: there's a but there, right? I'm coming off of broken leg,
[29:00] Speaker 1: torn ligaments in my ankle. They'd rather take this chance...
[29:06] Speaker 1: rather than draft this guy because I'm more prepared, I'm ready.
[29:11] Speaker 1: I ain't saying they ain't saying I'm ready, but I'm
[29:13] Speaker 1: more prepared for the moment than he is. His upside was,
[29:17] Speaker 1: in their mind at the time, drafting a 17, 18-year-old
[29:19] Speaker 1: kid like you're saying, right? You take the younger guy,
[29:22] Speaker 1: but the younger guy can't help. You give us three
[29:27] Speaker 1: years with him. But what if I take you and
[29:30] Speaker 1: put you in a draft... No matter where you get drafted.
[29:33] Speaker 3: At what age?
[29:34] Speaker 1: As a sophomore.
[29:34] Speaker 3: As a sophomore? Yeah. And now, instead of sophomore in college, junior, senior,
[29:39] Speaker 3: what is your development being in the NBA, lifting NBA weights,
[29:44] Speaker 3: playing against NBA practices? What did you turn out?
[29:47] Speaker 1: But the patients are not there.
[29:49] Speaker 3: Back then it was.
[29:50] Speaker 1: The patients are not. No, I'm just saying. They gave
[29:52] Speaker 1: me two years.
[29:53] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, as a player.
[29:54] Speaker 1: Those two years from my sophomore year to my senior year.
[29:57] Speaker 1: If I were to put my name in, As a sophomore, offensively,
[30:04] Speaker 1: I couldn't do nothing with the ball. So their patience
[30:10] Speaker 1: as a pro is less than patience as Bob Huggins
[30:14] Speaker 1: as a college coach.
[30:15] Speaker 3: No, no, I get that.
[30:16] Speaker 1: Telling me you need to work on this, right? And
[30:19] Speaker 1: there's a step to it. Okay, you need to work
[30:21] Speaker 1: on this next. You need to work on this. There's
[30:24] Speaker 1: no expectations from Bob Huggins.
[30:28] Speaker 3: Right?
[30:29] Speaker 1: Because I'm still doing the defense and rebounding. So that's
[30:34] Speaker 1: enough for me to keep my scholarship and for him
[30:36] Speaker 1: to keep his job because we're winning. If I'm a
[30:39] Speaker 1: pro those two years, there are expectations there for me
[30:45] Speaker 1: to get better. And if I don't, I'm not in
[30:50] Speaker 1: the league anymore.
[30:51] Speaker 3: No, but what I'm saying is there's none because you're younger.
[30:53] Speaker 3: So I'm saying if I just give you three years,
[30:55] Speaker 3: I say these are empty years for you.
[30:58] Speaker 1: College or three years in the pros? Those three years.
[31:01] Speaker 3: As a basketball player, which one you think will be
[31:06] Speaker 3: better by 22?
[31:09] Speaker 1: The one who's been.
[31:10] Speaker 3: Practicing and playing in the NBA for three years working
[31:13] Speaker 3: against NBA talent or the college kid? When y'all match
[31:19] Speaker 3: up against each other, who's the more meaner? Think about
[31:23] Speaker 3: what you lived out of sophomore year versus what you're doing.
[31:25] Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who the player is.
[31:27] Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about him.
[31:28] Speaker 1: I'm talking about we started at the same point, right?
[31:31] Speaker 1: So we started at the same point. The kid that's
[31:33] Speaker 1: in college, I'm able to work.
[31:35] Speaker 3: On my game, right?
[31:37] Speaker 1: But I'm learning the fundamentals of how to stop you. Right?
[31:45] Speaker 1: They're not teaching you defense, individual defense, them three years
[31:50] Speaker 1: as you approach. They're not doing it because they don't
[31:52] Speaker 1: have time to. So I have an advantage. When I
[31:58] Speaker 1: came in, I had an advantage over Strohmeyer-Swift. I had
[32:03] Speaker 1: an advantage over Darius Miles. I had an advantage over
[32:07] Speaker 1: those guys. The advantage was the defense and the progression
[32:14] Speaker 1: that I had for number four years, me learning these things.
[32:19] Speaker 1: I was the defensive player of the year in the
[32:21] Speaker 1: conference before I was player of the year in the conference.
[32:24] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[32:26] Speaker 1: I became player of the year in the conference because
[32:28] Speaker 1: I started scoring the basketball. I would start at the
[32:34] Speaker 1: same point, the same development. The college kid is going
[32:38] Speaker 1: to learn more and be more prepared. For college basketball? No, no,
[32:41] Speaker 1: for basketball. Over anything? That time. No, just in that
[32:48] Speaker 1: period now.
[32:49] Speaker 4: If a kid go out of high school, go to Europe.
[32:52] Speaker 4: If a kid go to Europe, he's going to be
[32:54] Speaker 4: way more prepared. No, he's not.
[32:56] Speaker 1: Yes, he is.
[32:57] Speaker 4: That's why I went top ten.
[33:00] Speaker 3: Because I was prepared. I was prepared. I was prepared.
[33:05] Speaker 4: Brandon, I'm not going to let you sit and tell me.
[33:09] Speaker 1: You went overseas and didn't fucking play.
[33:12] Speaker 3: And I came back prepared. That's why I went top 10.
[33:15] Speaker 3: Because I came back prepared.
[33:16] Speaker 4: If I went to college, I probably don't go top 10.
[33:19] Speaker 1: Brandon, that work was done before you went overseas. Your
[33:22] Speaker 1: name and your game was established before you went overseas.
[33:25] Speaker 1: You wouldn't have the opportunity to go overseas if your
[33:27] Speaker 1: name and game wasn't already established, Brandon. Trust me.
[33:31] Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, no matter what age you
[33:34] Speaker 3: come into the NBA, if you come in at 22
[33:35] Speaker 3: or you come in at 18, both of you guys
[33:38] Speaker 3: are learning what the.
[33:40] Speaker 1: NBA is for the first time. We're talking about basketball.
[33:42] Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying is you're learning what the NBA
[33:44] Speaker 3: is for the first time.
[33:45] Speaker 1: And what is the NBA, though? One-on-one, speed, athleticism. We're
[33:49] Speaker 1: talking about basketball.
[33:51] Speaker 3: Different concepts. But you're learning whatever language you're learning, you're
[33:55] Speaker 3: learning at the same time. So whatever you're learning in
[33:58] Speaker 3: your first year at 22, I'm learning at 18, 19.
[34:01] Speaker 3: So by the time I turn 22, think about where
[34:05] Speaker 3: I am compared to where you were at 22. That's
[34:08] Speaker 3: how they judge it. So we both have three years.
[34:11] Speaker 1: When I came in at 22? Mm-hmm. I was offensively ready,
[34:15] Speaker 1: defensively ready, strong. By year four, I was an all-star, right?
[34:21] Speaker 1: Should have been one in year three. And we're talking honesty, right?
[34:27] Speaker 1: Some people fit that. By year three, they're an all-star.
[34:31] Speaker 1: By year four, they're definitely. Some people fit that. But
[34:35] Speaker 1: there's more that's not because they're not prepared. There's more
[34:39] Speaker 1: guys that don't make it that didn't go to college
[34:44] Speaker 1: than guys that do. Because you have to do more
[34:50] Speaker 1: with the complete game of basketball, and then we can
[34:53] Speaker 1: move on from it. But we think about Zach Eady.
[34:58] Speaker 1: We talk about Zach Eady, right? If Zach Eady went
[35:02] Speaker 1: to school, right, the same amount of time, if he
[35:06] Speaker 1: was dominant the way he was and he played a
[35:08] Speaker 1: different position, He's not the number one option on his
[35:15] Speaker 1: team now. He's not the number two option on his
[35:17] Speaker 1: team now. He's not the number three option on his
[35:20] Speaker 1: team now. He's not the number four option on his
[35:22] Speaker 1: team now. If he was a different position, that changes
[35:29] Speaker 1: with the domination that he had in college. You look
[35:33] Speaker 1: at Jalen Brunson.
[35:36] Speaker 3: Dominant.
[35:38] Speaker 1: He didn't get that. He had that when he went
[35:41] Speaker 1: to Dallas. Where did he get that from?
[35:48] Speaker 3: College?
[35:48] Speaker 1: High school?
[35:49] Speaker 3: His dad? College.
[35:51] Speaker 1: He had a good college coach. He won at learning
[35:56] Speaker 1: how to... What do we say about the Villanova guy?
[35:58] Speaker 3: What do we say about the Villanova guy? What you're
[36:02] Speaker 3: saying is that's now a rarity where the older guy
[36:06] Speaker 3: actually pans out. It does. You're right.
[36:08] Speaker 1: You're the last senior to go number one. And if
[36:11] Speaker 1: Zack Eady played a different... A lot of people thought
[36:13] Speaker 1: Zack Eady wouldn't get drafted. First round, late, second round,
[36:19] Speaker 1: not nine. No, no one thought nine.
[36:22] Speaker 3: No one thought Zack Eady would get picked ninth.
[36:26] Speaker 1: But the people in Memphis thought something different. If Zack
[36:32] Speaker 1: Eady played a different position... where he had the ball
[36:36] Speaker 1: in his hand and he wasn't reliant on Ja Morant, Bane,
[36:41] Speaker 1: the other guys to have to get him the ball,
[36:44] Speaker 1: or if the game was played like the... If they
[36:48] Speaker 1: featured Zack Eadie, he'll average a double... If he got
[36:51] Speaker 1: the minutes some other guys get and they featured him,
[36:54] Speaker 1: he would average a double-double because he knows how to
[36:56] Speaker 1: score on the block and can't nobody stop him. He
[36:58] Speaker 1: makes free throws. He makes free throws in minutes.
[37:01] Speaker 3: And... It's bad.
[37:03] Speaker 1: He's 7'4, Gil. I get it. He shoots the ball well.
[37:08] Speaker 1: He makes free throws. And he knows how to score.
[37:12] Speaker 1: If you feature him on the block, there's no one
[37:15] Speaker 1: that's stopping him in the NBA. The same thing we
[37:18] Speaker 1: said about Joel Embiid. He's unstoppable. Zach Eady is unstoppable
[37:23] Speaker 1: if you give him the opportunity to be unstoppable. Because
[37:29] Speaker 1: no one knows, in this NBA that we speak of,
[37:33] Speaker 1: no one knows how to play post-defense. Yeah, everybody's shooting threes.
[37:39] Speaker 3: So if you give him.
[37:40] Speaker 1: The ball and opportunity, if, Zachary, you get 15 shots
[37:44] Speaker 1: a night, you get 30 minutes a night, 15 to
[37:49] Speaker 1: 20 shots a night, guaranteed, he is the dominant player
[37:54] Speaker 1: that you are looking for because he's older. He would
[37:57] Speaker 1: be that. He's not getting the opportunity to show that.
[38:02] Speaker 1: In college, they gave him the opportunity to be two-time
[38:08] Speaker 1: Wooden Award winner. They gave him the opportunity to do that.
[38:12] Speaker 1: He is prepared to play. Now, just like the guy
[38:15] Speaker 1: in Washington, he's younger.
[38:17] Speaker 3: Yes, good.
[38:17] Speaker 1: The guy in Atlanta, good. All those guys, yes. All
[38:21] Speaker 1: the guys that y'all talked about yesterday, the guy that.
[38:23] Speaker 3: Got drafted, yes.
[38:27] Speaker 1: But given the opportunity to do what he did in college,
[38:31] Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind because he understands how
[38:33] Speaker 1: to play the game on both ends of the floor.
[38:38] Speaker 1: Because he's been this size. They've had to coach that up.
[38:42] Speaker 1: They've had to coach him to the best of their
[38:43] Speaker 1: ability because he has deficiency because he's so big, right?
[38:46] Speaker 1: He understands his size. He understands space. Wimby understands the
[38:49] Speaker 1: same thing. They've been this size. They know how to play.
[38:52] Speaker 1: If he get the same opportunity, the same look, and
[38:54] Speaker 1: the same love that people show Wimby, it just looks
[38:57] Speaker 1: different because he's not shooting threes. And to say that
[39:02] Speaker 1: this other guy do this better because he's younger, you
[39:06] Speaker 1: go to college to get better. You need to learn
[39:09] Speaker 1: how to play basketball. So are you saying that guys
[39:11] Speaker 1: need to go to college? Some guys absolutely, Gil.
[39:15] Speaker 3: Brandon, yes.
[39:17] Speaker 1: Because a lot of these guys have deficiencies and they're
[39:20] Speaker 1: not going to become good pros. Paul George probably could
[39:23] Speaker 1: play defense at a high level before he got to college,
[39:26] Speaker 1: but he perfected that shit in college. koala ended the
[39:29] Speaker 1: same thing they long arms could move their feet but
[39:32] Speaker 1: they learned angles and how to cut a motherfucker off
[39:35] Speaker 1: and do these things in college because they they had
[39:39] Speaker 1: a coach teaching oh they got great attributes look at
[39:42] Speaker 1: his fucking arms he's moving his feet oh shit wait
[39:44] Speaker 1: till i get him I can teach him this. So
[39:48] Speaker 1: you think Cooper Flagg is learning a lot in college
[39:49] Speaker 1: right now? Yes. That's going to help him. He could
[39:54] Speaker 1: already score. Listen, he was already athletic when he got there.
[39:57] Speaker 1: Could already score the basketball.
[39:58] Speaker 3: Right.
[40:00] Speaker 1: So what is he doing that's different from heights? If
[40:03] Speaker 1: he went longer, he'll learn more. He's not going to
[40:05] Speaker 1: be there long. You can only learn a certain amount
[40:07] Speaker 1: in a minute time.
[40:09] Speaker 3: But how many players is he playing? Like, okay, when
[40:12] Speaker 3: you think about college, it is like, When you're talking
[40:16] Speaker 3: about one-on-one, what other high-level player has Cooper Flagg had
[40:20] Speaker 3: to play against? Because 30 nights or 82 nights, he's
[40:23] Speaker 3: going against defensively and offensively. There's nothing that's going to
[40:27] Speaker 3: prepare him for that because he's never going to see
[40:29] Speaker 3: that guy. He won't be prepared.
[40:30] Speaker 1: So what is... And then, like, the kids.
[40:32] Speaker 3: So what is it?
[40:33] Speaker 1: So you didn't go to college. So you went to college,
[40:35] Speaker 1: you went to college, right? You went to college to
[40:38] Speaker 1: play basketball, right? I'm saying to play basketball. Technically, I
[40:42] Speaker 1: was there. But you did drills and shit, though, right?
[40:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:45] Speaker 1: You did drills, you did drills. I did drills, you
[40:47] Speaker 1: did drills. We did drills overseas. But not to... No, Brandon,
[40:52] Speaker 1: this is a... College coaching is not overseas. So stop
[40:56] Speaker 1: fucking putting yourself in this. It's better. Stop putting yourself
[40:59] Speaker 1: in this. It gets you prepared. I'm just letting you know.
[41:00] Speaker 1: You didn't do it, Brandon.
[41:02] Speaker 4: Right, because college wasn't going to get me ready for
[41:05] Speaker 4: the NBA, so I'm speaking on.
[41:06] Speaker 3: That's you, so put... And a lot of other kids.
[41:09] Speaker 1: Speak on what you know. Why are we talking about college?
[41:11] Speaker 1: Speak on... Because I went to school four years and
[41:12] Speaker 1: I was the number one pick because of what the
[41:13] Speaker 1: fuck we're talking about here. It's what I want to
[41:15] Speaker 1: talk about. It ain't what you want to talk about, nigga.
[41:18] Speaker 1: Quit putting your fucking self in the conversation.
[41:20] Speaker 3: All right.
[41:20] Speaker 1: Because they ain't got shit to do with you.
[41:21] Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, college ain't preparing nobody.
[41:24] Speaker 1: College ain't preparing nobody.
[41:25] Speaker 3: You didn't go because you don't fucking know.
[41:27] Speaker 1: College ain't preparing.
[41:28] Speaker 4: That kid that's going to BYU, he don't have to
[41:30] Speaker 4: go to BYU.
[41:31] Speaker 3: Did you do defensive drills? Yeah.
[41:33] Speaker 1: When you was at UCLA, did y'all do defensive drills? Yes,
[41:35] Speaker 1: we did. When you was at college, Sebastian, did y'all
[41:37] Speaker 1: do defensive drills?
[41:38] Speaker 3: Hell yeah. I was at Cincinnati.
[41:39] Speaker 1: I did defensive drills.
[41:40] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[41:41] Speaker 1: Will it teach him how to guard fucking Kevin Durant?
[41:45] Speaker 1: Absolutely fucking not. Mm-hmm. Will it teach him certain angles
[41:49] Speaker 1: with certain people, how to move his feet? He did
[41:51] Speaker 1: closeouts every day. He doing this drill, that drill. In
[41:55] Speaker 1: that regard, yes. If he has deficiencies defensively, this will
[42:02] Speaker 1: help him somewhat.
[42:04] Speaker 3: Ain't saying he going to come in that motherfucking beat
[42:06] Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard.
[42:07] Speaker 1: No. But it will help him to a certain degree.
[42:09] Speaker 3: DeMar Johnson could have went to the NBA fresh out
[42:13] Speaker 3: of high school.
[42:14] Speaker 1: Where did he go to school? Mm-hmm. To the University
[42:17] Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Why? They said this man needed to get stronger.
[42:20] Speaker 1: He was the sixth pick in the draft.
[42:22] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[42:23] Speaker 1: It's proof to going... Reasons for people to do different shit.
[42:27] Speaker 1: They said DeMar Johnson could've went to the NBA after
[42:29] Speaker 1: his junior year in high school. I was in his class.
[42:33] Speaker 1: He went to school for a fucking reason. Because everybody
[42:37] Speaker 1: is different. The history is going against your argument, though.
[42:41] Speaker 1: The research has been shown, though.
[42:44] Speaker 3: I hear you. Remember, I'm in the class of all
[42:46] Speaker 3: high school kids. So the Zack Eady thing is what
[42:49] Speaker 3: I specifically want to get on because that, right? It's
[42:54] Speaker 3: going against everything that I'm sitting here saying, but you
[42:58] Speaker 3: can't get away from the fundamentals of teaching people how
[43:00] Speaker 3: to play basketball.
[43:01] Speaker 1: Okay, so I asked Dwight. It was Dwight Howard and Okafor, right?
[43:06] Speaker 3: Okafor was a seasoned college player. So I asked Otis,
[43:10] Speaker 3: why did you go with Dwight? He said, he.
[43:14] Speaker 1: Talked about age.
[43:16] Speaker 3: He said, by the time Dwight is Okafor age, Dwight
[43:21] Speaker 3: would be a superstar. Yes. So I have a... Four
[43:24] Speaker 3: years from now, this kid will be a superstar. He
[43:28] Speaker 3: could be good, but he's not going to be a
[43:31] Speaker 3: superstar because he's not at the age now. So if
[43:34] Speaker 3: I'm going to take a 22-year-old, am I going to
[43:37] Speaker 3: take the 22-year-old who's coming into the draft or the
[43:39] Speaker 3: 22-year-old who's going to be a superstar in four years? Yes.
[43:43] Speaker 1: And that's what he went with.
[43:44] Speaker 3: Absolutely. Over for one rookie of the year. Two years later,
[43:47] Speaker 3: one was an all-star by the age of 20.
[43:49] Speaker 1: But that particular... But right that year.
[43:54] Speaker 3: Okafor was better.
[43:55] Speaker 1: He was better. He was ready to play. He was
[43:57] Speaker 1: more prepared.
[43:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's the number one pick. I don't need
[44:00] Speaker 3: someone prepared to my team. Yes.
[44:03] Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes. But more prepared then, if you were to
[44:07] Speaker 1: ask a different GM, like I said, if somebody else
[44:12] Speaker 1: would have had to pick, they would have picked Okafor.
[44:15] Speaker 1: But if somebody else would have had to pick, it
[44:19] Speaker 1: just so happened that Otis had to pick. But hear
[44:21] Speaker 1: what I'm.
[44:21] Speaker 3: Saying on how the thought is.
[44:25] Speaker 1: He's 22.
[44:26] Speaker 3: Yes. This is how prepared he is at 22. Yes.
[44:30] Speaker 3: All right? Yes.
[44:31] Speaker 1: This is 18.
[44:31] Speaker 3: Yes. I have four years before I have to match
[44:36] Speaker 3: him to where he is right now. Yes. So in
[44:40] Speaker 3: four years, can I get him better than what Okafor
[44:43] Speaker 3: is as a rookie? If the answer is yes, you
[44:46] Speaker 3: have to go with the 18-year-old.
[44:48] Speaker 1: Yes.
[44:48] Speaker 3: So you're just saying four years from now, I'm going
[44:50] Speaker 3: to see if I made a great decision. So I
[44:52] Speaker 3: have four free years on it. I'm with you. And
[44:54] Speaker 3: that's just how they go. I'm with you.
[44:56] Speaker 1: Yes. I'm saying yes.
[44:59] Speaker 3: When you're talking about being good, if you're older, you're
[45:02] Speaker 3: talking about being Tim Duncan.
[45:04] Speaker 1: So what did they do to Tim?
[45:07] Speaker 3: You have to be great early.
[45:09] Speaker 1: Great early, but what did they do for Tim Duncan?
[45:14] Speaker 1: He was the number one pick. Option. Right? David Robinson
[45:19] Speaker 1: wasn't the number one option. Tim Duncan was the number
[45:22] Speaker 1: one option.
[45:22] Speaker 3: Right? Right.
[45:23] Speaker 1: If Zach, I'm sorry, Zach, he's ready to play right
[45:25] Speaker 1: now as a rookie. If he was the number one
[45:27] Speaker 1: option in Memphis, it'd look different because he's more prepared
[45:30] Speaker 1: this year. He would be the rookie of the year like, like, um,
[45:34] Speaker 1: Okafor was the rookie of the year, right? He would
[45:36] Speaker 1: be the rookie of the year because... He knows how
[45:40] Speaker 1: to play right now. It could look different in four years.
[45:43] Speaker 1: Absolutely what I'm saying, yes. But more prepared because he
[45:47] Speaker 1: went to school and he learned how to play basketball.
[45:51] Speaker 1: They are very skilled. They learn the skill set, what
[45:55] Speaker 1: they have when they come from France. They have that.
[45:57] Speaker 1: They're tall, athletic, skilled. But they have a deficiency to
[46:02] Speaker 1: a certain degree. Guys that learn how to play, they
[46:08] Speaker 1: don't have that. You know what I'm saying? So what
[46:10] Speaker 1: you're saying, absolutely. In four years, Soren could be an all-star.
[46:14] Speaker 1: Zack Eady could just still be averaging fucking 11.
[46:17] Speaker 3: Fine.
[46:18] Speaker 1: But he's more prepared today because he did what he
[46:21] Speaker 1: did in college and he learned how to play with
[46:24] Speaker 1: that size. They featured him. So everything you're saying, yes.
[46:28] Speaker 1: But to go to school, you're going to get better.
[46:32] Speaker 1: And if you're doing that, that means that you're teachable,
[46:35] Speaker 1: you're coachable, your aptitude for the game is high. So
[46:39] Speaker 1: all those things is helping you. Being a pro, yes,
[46:44] Speaker 1: you learn how to be a pro in real time.
[46:47] Speaker 1: There's no better teacher than that. Yes, absolutely, because I
[46:50] Speaker 1: did it. There's no better teacher for being a pro.
[46:54] Speaker 1: But to learn how to play basketball is what we're
[46:56] Speaker 1: talking about. To be a pro and learn how to
[46:59] Speaker 1: play basketball. You're learning how to play basketball by college
[47:03] Speaker 1: coaches because their job is affected by teaching you because
[47:07] Speaker 1: they want you to stick around for another year. You
[47:09] Speaker 1: got better, so it's going to help my job. Them
[47:12] Speaker 1: pros don't have that. You will be more prepared, absolutely,
[47:18] Speaker 1: but you might not have a fucking job to do
[47:19] Speaker 1: it in in three years, is what I'm saying, because
[47:22] Speaker 1: you have deficiencies. That's real. All right, well. That's all.
[47:28] Speaker 1: We've been talking about this shit, and I heard y'all yesterday.
[47:31] Speaker 3: And I'm like... You were the last draft.
[47:33] Speaker 1: Senior, yes.
[47:34] Speaker 3: You were the last draft, because I think what ended
[47:37] Speaker 3: up happening after your draft, the study of the Kobe's
[47:44] Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett and the Tracy McGrady was coming in. 0-1-0-2,
[47:52] Speaker 3: Kobe was successful, Garnett was successful. Jermaine O'Neal was going
[47:57] Speaker 3: into his own, and T-Mac was still in. So when
[48:01] Speaker 3: my draft was coming, they just went a whole, whole motherfucker,
[48:06] Speaker 3: let's go young. I mean, um... It was theirs, mine. Yours, yeah,
[48:12] Speaker 3: yours was still kind of like, it was still, you
[48:14] Speaker 3: had one.
[48:14] Speaker 1: Or two young guys in the top, um... It was
[48:17] Speaker 1: only one high school kid. And then it was still, like, young,
[48:20] Speaker 1: but mine, we had.
[48:21] Speaker 3: Um.
[48:25] Speaker 1: You had.
[48:29] Speaker 3: Tyson, Eddie Curry. Oh, Eddie Curry. Oh, yeah.
[48:32] Speaker 1: Jason Richards was two years, but we had Jop Deop.
[48:35] Speaker 3: Yep.
[48:36] Speaker 1: And we had a young kid from Griffin.
[48:38] Speaker 3: Griffin. Right, so our whole class, like, our whole class,
[48:41] Speaker 3: it was all, oh, no, yeah, the first point guard went,
[48:45] Speaker 3: damn near 20-something. So it was just all young bigs
[48:48] Speaker 3: coming out.
[48:49] Speaker 1: And you're the first four.
[48:49] Speaker 3: Picks, all high school guys. Yes.
[48:51] Speaker 1: I remember that draft.
[48:52] Speaker 3: It went back to back. Yeah, it was just, it
[48:54] Speaker 3: was just clean up. That's where Jop Deop came in at.
[48:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
[48:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was, it was a young person draft and,
[49:00] Speaker 3: you know, sitting there asking the questions and why they
[49:03] Speaker 3: doing this, why they doing that and then trying to
[49:05] Speaker 3: understand what people are seeing. Like, I don't see it.
[49:11] Speaker 3: And it was like, it was, it was like three
[49:15] Speaker 3: years from now, four years from now is when we're
[49:17] Speaker 3: gonna judge them. It's like they have a free four
[49:20] Speaker 3: periods to try to figure it out. And I'm like....
[49:24] Speaker 1: Oh, that... Man, that's crazy.
[49:27] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I dig it. Because before them, obviously,
[49:31] Speaker 3: you look back in history, obviously, the older you were,
[49:34] Speaker 3: you were bad. Like, the senior and the junior, you know. Yeah,
[49:36] Speaker 3: and there was more... And trust me, there was more....
[49:41] Speaker 1: Unsuccessful stories of guys trying it than there are more
[49:44] Speaker 1: success stories. The younger guys. Was Corleone Young in your
[49:49] Speaker 1: draft or that was before all that?
[49:50] Speaker 3: It was after.
[49:52] Speaker 1: No, before. Corleone Young, was he?
[49:54] Speaker 3: Shit.
[49:55] Speaker 1: It was that.
[49:55] Speaker 3: 99 draft? Yeah, that was that. 98, 99?
[49:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah. It was some big misses in that. 1998.
[50:04] Speaker 3: 1998.
[50:04] Speaker 1: Then that one kid that put his name in, the
[50:08] Speaker 1: big white kid.
[50:09] Speaker 3: Oh, no. Robert Swift, the big redhead kid. He came
[50:12] Speaker 3: in after, yeah. Fucking mistake. That was the white number.
[50:14] Speaker 4: The white number, they had, like, everybody left the McDonald's.
[50:17] Speaker 1: Fucking kid, that was a goddamn mistake. Remember, that's when J.R.
[50:19] Speaker 3: Smith and all them came out.
[50:20] Speaker 1: Who let that boy put his name in the draft, man?
[50:22] Speaker 1: And then when J.R. Smith and all them came out,
[50:24] Speaker 1: after that McDonald's thing.
[50:25] Speaker 3: J.R. Smith, yeah.
[50:26] Speaker 1: Sebastian, that's when it just went crazy. And then it
[50:28] Speaker 1: was like.
[50:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, they changed the rule right after that. They was like,
[50:33] Speaker 4: we went to NBA camp. They was like, yeah, y'all
[50:35] Speaker 4: got to wait a year.
[50:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, because the fucking Robert Smith Swift shit. Yeah, he
[50:40] Speaker 1: was in that. He was like, all right, now who
[50:42] Speaker 1: let him in? It was that McDonald's game.
[50:45] Speaker 3: See, that's the problem, right? The McDonald's game.
[50:48] Speaker 1: The fucking McDonald's game that everybody thinks they do.
[50:50] Speaker 3: The McDonald's game is an all-star game. You can't count
[50:54] Speaker 3: that as actual.
[50:55] Speaker 1: When you got motherfucking 1,400 people in your town and
[50:59] Speaker 1: you average your motherfucking 62 in high school, yeah, you're
[51:02] Speaker 1: going to be at McDonald's.
[51:03] Speaker 4: And Sonny over there kissing everybody on the cheek.
[51:06] Speaker 3: Like, you're going lottery.
[51:07] Speaker 1: You're like, shit. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
[51:11] Speaker 2: Got to talk about an important topic in the basketball world.
[51:15] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, who absolutely dominated the Hornets last night. Let's
[51:20] Speaker 2: take a look at some highlights. AD had 42.
[51:23] Speaker 1: Points and 23 rebounds in.
[51:25] Speaker 2: The game, including 21 and 11 in the first quarter
[51:28] Speaker 2: alone against the contender adjacent, Charlotte Hornets. He was 17
[51:36] Speaker 2: for 28 from the field in 37 minutes, 8 of
[51:40] Speaker 2: 10 from the free throw line. So LeBron had 22 points,
[51:42] Speaker 2: 8 assists, 7 rebounds.
[51:43] Speaker 3: In the game.
[51:44] Speaker 1: In which the Lakers never trailed.
[51:46] Speaker 2: And the best third option in the NBA currently, Austin Reeves,
[51:49] Speaker 2: has 17 points as well. You may also know him
[51:51] Speaker 2: as Lemon Daddy if you live in Los Angeles and
[51:53] Speaker 2: you've seen the billboard.
[51:54] Speaker 1: This is him at the final.
[51:55] Speaker 3: So, Charlotte lost a mellow ball to an ankle injury
[51:57] Speaker 3: in the second quarter, which didn't help, of course.
[51:59] Speaker 1: We'll have more on that later. But back to AD.
[52:02] Speaker 2: Fifth career, 40-20 game, most of any player since 2000.
[52:07] Speaker 1: Shout-out to Black and Mild, baby! Shout-out to Black and Mild, baby! Yeah!
[52:13] Speaker 1: Where the bud at? Put that in your pipe and
[52:15] Speaker 1: smoke it.
[52:16] Speaker 3: Yep.
[52:18] Speaker 2: Shout out to Black and Miles, also known as Dorian Finney-Smith,
[52:20] Speaker 2: also known as Dodo.
[52:23] Speaker 1: That's my guy.
[52:24] Speaker 3: That's my new guy right there.
[52:26] Speaker 1: So, Brandon, you are still on the outside looking in
[52:28] Speaker 1: of the Lakers bandwagon.
[52:29] Speaker 3: We have room for you still. We have your spot reserved.
[52:32] Speaker 3: First class.
[52:33] Speaker 2: All the amenities you could possibly want. Can the Lakers
[52:35] Speaker 2: rely on this version of AD for the rest of
[52:38] Speaker 2: the season?
[52:38] Speaker 4: As long as they stay at the five. Yeah, I mean, no,
[52:42] Speaker 4: for real. Like, we was just talking about it yesterday.
[52:44] Speaker 4: When he play at the five, he's dominant. Can't nobody
[52:46] Speaker 4: guard him. And it's not like he playing against top
[52:50] Speaker 4: bigs every night. So him at the five looking like this,
[52:53] Speaker 4: and he just looked more aggressive. Like, so maybe whatever
[52:58] Speaker 4: talk he had.
[52:59] Speaker 3: You know, I just want to ask him the question
[53:03] Speaker 3: about why does he want to be at the four?
[53:06] Speaker 3: Does he want to be at the four for defense? Um, like,
[53:13] Speaker 3: because we see what you're doing against these fives, right? Like,
[53:16] Speaker 3: you just, you murdering them for the last three years, right?
[53:20] Speaker 3: So I'm trying to figure out, defensively, is it better
[53:24] Speaker 3: for you?
[53:25] Speaker 1: Or offensively, is it better for you? Because you're the
[53:27] Speaker 1: biggest four. I don't think he want to wrestle. Even
[53:30] Speaker 1: though it ain't a lot going on at the five position.
[53:33] Speaker 1: I was going to say, he ain't wrestling. But to
[53:34] Speaker 1: have to box the motherfucker out and all that shit,
[53:36] Speaker 1: every position, I don't think he's trying to do that. Right?
[53:39] Speaker 3: Right?
[53:39] Speaker 1: Okay. Like, who's the higher? I mean, he is injury-prone. Yeah,
[53:43] Speaker 1: most of the five, I don't think he's trying to
[53:44] Speaker 1: do that part.
[53:45] Speaker 3: What fives do we have? We have Jokic, Embiid. But
[53:49] Speaker 3: everybody else is... Bam?
[53:51] Speaker 1: Is Bam a four or five?
[53:53] Speaker 3: He gonna bully through Bam. He's bigger than Bam. Yeah,
[53:56] Speaker 3: he gonna bully through Bam. Then you got Wimby now.
[54:00] Speaker 1: I just think it's the.
[54:01] Speaker 3: Or Zingas.
[54:02] Speaker 1: It's the guys that's not named them. Because I'm like
[54:05] Speaker 1: the four. Like, you got Giannis, you got that damn....
[54:09] Speaker 3: KD.
[54:09] Speaker 1: Townes, KD. You got some people at four.
[54:12] Speaker 3: You got Benchero. You got all of them. I don't
[54:15] Speaker 3: want to guard them, motherfuckers.
[54:16] Speaker 1: Mobley, I don't want to guard them. You got what's-his-name
[54:19] Speaker 1: in Minnesota?
[54:21] Speaker 3: Randolph? Randolph? I don't. Them motherfuckers in Houston, they got
[54:27] Speaker 3: a motherfucking guard playing the four.
[54:29] Speaker 1: I don't want a guard in this shit.
[54:33] Speaker 3: Like, I'm trying to figure out what is the benefit.
[54:35] Speaker 1: Of trying to go to the four. Because who at
[54:38] Speaker 1: the four in Boston?
[54:39] Speaker 3: Huh?
[54:40] Speaker 1: Who's at the four in Boston?
[54:41] Speaker 3: Is it Tatum? Tatum? Yeah.
[54:43] Speaker 1: What you want to do? Tatum at the four? You
[54:44] Speaker 1: don't want that.
[54:45] Speaker 3: Like, I see offensively, yeah, you get to bully through
[54:48] Speaker 3: some of these guys, but defensively, you out there on
[54:51] Speaker 3: the wing, goddammit. Mm.
[54:55] Speaker 1: But you think the Lakers can rely on A.D. to
[54:58] Speaker 1: beat this guy if he stays at the five position?
[55:00] Speaker 4: I mean, no, from the numbers and everything, it looks
[55:02] Speaker 4: like it's working.
[55:04] Speaker 1: Wait, is Bron at the four? Yeah, Bron plays the four.
[55:08] Speaker 1: So is that why, then? Because he wants it more...
[55:11] Speaker 1: You got to put him at the three. Is Bron to.
[55:16] Speaker 1: He can guard Bron, too. It was a conversation, really.
[55:19] Speaker 1: Bron said when he's at the four and A.D. 's
[55:20] Speaker 1: at the five, we are... So it's... Maybe they just
[55:25] Speaker 1: need to get... By size, yeah, LeBron is the four
[55:27] Speaker 1: if you want him by height, but.
[55:29] Speaker 3: How tall is Rui? About the same height as LeBron.
[55:34] Speaker 3: And Austin Reeves? 6'7. Connect?
[55:40] Speaker 1: 6'6.
[55:40] Speaker 3: 10.
[55:40] Speaker 1: He that tall?
[55:42] Speaker 3: Connect's like 6'6, 6'7.
[55:42] Speaker 1: Connect's taller than that, ain't he?
[55:44] Speaker 3: Connect's 6'6. 6'6. Oh, he's 6'8. Yeah, Rui's 6'8.
[55:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, they play basketball in shoes, so... Yeah, so I'm
[55:52] Speaker 1: trying to figure out what... Do we include the shoes
[55:55] Speaker 1: when we say the height? You play basketball in shoes?
[55:57] Speaker 1: The only people who use their shoes is guards.
[56:01] Speaker 3: Okay. Right? Motherfucker be.
[56:02] Speaker 1: If it say 6'2, he's 6'2 with his shoes on.
[56:06] Speaker 3: Okay. Right? You know what I mean? Like, you gonna
[56:08] Speaker 3: put your shoes on because you want every inch. The normal,
[56:12] Speaker 3: when they say your.
[56:13] Speaker 1: Height, that's without your shoes.
[56:15] Speaker 3: That's barefoot, right? And those stats is only used.
[56:19] Speaker 1: When they get you at, what's the name camp?
[56:23] Speaker 3: Media Day? No, not Media Day. Combine. So somebody like
[56:27] Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, Braun, Melo, Jason Taylor, all these young guys
[56:32] Speaker 3: who came in at 18 that's still growing, you don't
[56:35] Speaker 3: have an update from them. So if LeBron is 6'8,
[56:40] Speaker 3: they're not going to update you, right? They're not going
[56:42] Speaker 3: to update Kevin Durant. It don't benefit them. So you're
[56:46] Speaker 3: just going to get out there and see for yourself
[56:49] Speaker 3: that these motherfuckers are bigger than that height.
[56:51] Speaker 1: But why does it not benefit?
[56:52] Speaker 2: If I'm a guy and I've grown, if I'm like
[56:53] Speaker 2: a KG and I've grown from 6'10, 6'11, to 7'1.
[56:56] Speaker 3: Because KG, like, why does he care?
[56:57] Speaker 1: How does it benefit him? You show your ass and
[57:00] Speaker 1: put me at the center because I'm 7'1? Like, fuck that.
[57:03] Speaker 3: I'm 6'10, and I'm going to play to 4'. Right?
[57:07] Speaker 1: Or Hakeem, who's like 6'8, 6'9, and they say 7'5. Like,
[57:11] Speaker 1: you'd be surprised.
[57:12] Speaker 3: You'd get on that court and be like, yo, motherfucker,
[57:13] Speaker 3: how tall are you? No, for real. Like, no, seriously.
[57:16] Speaker 1: I've seen some guys.
[57:17] Speaker 4: I don't know if they keep growing as they keep
[57:18] Speaker 4: whatever's in the medicine.
[57:19] Speaker 3: We've been playing against LeBron in the playoffs, right? Antoine
[57:23] Speaker 3: is 6'9. LeBron got him in the post. LeBron is
[57:28] Speaker 3: towering a dude. And I said, hey, did he grow?
[57:35] Speaker 3: And I'm like, yo, LeBron looks like he's taller.
[57:38] Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know. And then, you know,
[57:40] Speaker 1: Jared's 6'11.
[57:41] Speaker 3: That motherfucker said, not I. And we had to put
[57:43] Speaker 3: Jared on the whole time so he wouldn't post up
[57:45] Speaker 3: no more.
[57:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, and to that motherfucker, that, this shit.
[57:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all.
[57:50] Speaker 1: Y'all like this, and motherfucking Twan sitting there, motherfucking looking.
[57:55] Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there like, man. Twan, no action with that.
[57:58] Speaker 1: He want nothing to do with it.
[57:59] Speaker 3: That's why you think.
[58:00] Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is the four.
[58:01] Speaker 3: Like, he ain't 6'8.
[58:02] Speaker 1: Not at all.
[58:03] Speaker 3: He's like 6'10. Yeah. But, you know, but also Nike
[58:08] Speaker 3: shoe contracts, right? Like, y'all don't buy big man shoes, right? Like,
[58:13] Speaker 3: y'all don't... Anybody that's over six... Giannis is probably the
[58:15] Speaker 3: only person that sells being over six. I used to
[58:19] Speaker 3: buy the KGs back in the day. I rocked the KD.
[58:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say KD.
[58:22] Speaker 3: KD.
[58:23] Speaker 1: How tall is Kevin Durant?
[58:25] Speaker 3: 6'9. Oh, 6'9.
[58:27] Speaker 1: How tall they got to listen? But he's a guard, though.
[58:31] Speaker 3: He's a guard. 6'9.
[58:31] Speaker 1: Because he wore 18s. They got his ass at 6'9, right? Yeah,
[58:34] Speaker 1: he's a guard, though.
[58:35] Speaker 3: He's a guard.
[58:36] Speaker 1: He doesn't cap.
[58:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, so they was like, I guess the study back then, like,
[58:39] Speaker 3: nobody sold shoes over 6'9, so everybody was capped off
[58:43] Speaker 3: at 6'9.
[58:44] Speaker 1: Real was after Patrick Ewing. That was a Nike thing.
[58:46] Speaker 3: Despite your... I heard that, too.
[58:48] Speaker 1: You heard it, right?
[58:49] Speaker 3: I heard that.
[58:50] Speaker 1: Real was rocked to hit kids. That's why, yeah, no
[58:52] Speaker 1: bigs have signature shoes, man.
[58:56] Speaker 2: We was rocking the Twizzles and all that good. The
[58:58] Speaker 2: Shaq Reeboks. The Sean Kills. Like Luka 6'7. Yeah, he was.
[59:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sean Kills.
[59:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, Luka was 6'7.
[59:03] Speaker 1: At one point in life.
[59:04] Speaker 3: Hey, they were rocking Luka. Kamikazes. Have you seen Luka
[59:07] Speaker 3: up close? I have not. Luka?
[59:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, Luka, yeah.
[59:10] Speaker 3: He all over, what, 6'10? Yep. He looks it on
[59:13] Speaker 3: the floor.
[59:14] Speaker 1: Man, that's what I'm saying. People be like, he's 6'7. Like, man,
[59:16] Speaker 1: stop that Google shit, man.
[59:17] Speaker 3: Like, you don't... Like, there's a reason they can't block
[59:20] Speaker 3: that motherfucker shot.
[59:21] Speaker 1: Like, do you know what 6'7'' look like? Clay is 6'7.
[59:24] Speaker 1: Kyrie's with him. Kyrie was taller than me. Yeah. I
[59:28] Speaker 1: don't know what's in the medicine.
[59:29] Speaker 3: They be growing.
[59:30] Speaker 1: Who the fuck is that? That's like 6'3.
[59:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[59:34] Speaker 1: Like, he's just small frame 6'3. But they just, like,
[59:36] Speaker 1: up here. They don't look like, what's his name?
[59:41] Speaker 3: But Luka, like, y'all think his step back and the reason, like,
[59:44] Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert at 7' can't get to it, because.
[59:46] Speaker 1: He's just this big.
[59:48] Speaker 3: Like, these guys are not small guys. The guys you
[59:50] Speaker 3: see that's bullying everybody, they're bigger than everybody. Like, you
[59:55] Speaker 3: stop looking at that, though. He's 6'5, he's 6'6. All right.
[59:59] Speaker 1: You know who a lot taller than I thought when
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: I first saw him? I'm like, God, Devin Booker's taller
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: than I thought. And I used to wonder, like, yo,
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: how he getting that shot off on everybody, man? Yeah,
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: and that was the problem. When I saw him, he
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: like 6'6, 6'7. I'm like, damn, that's why he getting
[1:00:14] Speaker 1: that shot off on everybody. Big-ass guard, man.
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: Like, I'm looking, yeah.
[1:00:21] Speaker 4: So what do y'all think about that now? Like, when
[1:00:23] Speaker 4: y'all see these guards, like, you know, like, 6'7, 6'8.
[1:00:25] Speaker 3: It seems like it makes.
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: If they was, like, planning y'all, like, y'all was planning
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: that air.
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: You know what it is?
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: Or this air.
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: I guess because the heights look so normal. It looks
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: normal because of 6'3, 6'4, 6'4. I think it just
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: makes the normal basketball player think he can make it
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: until they see these motherfuckers is not actually that hype.
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, the first guard, I'm saying when DeMar Johnson came
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: to Cincinnati, dude, the first guard, my freshman year, we
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: had Damon Flynn. Damon Flynn was 6'5, point guard, right?
[1:00:58] Speaker 3: I'm lefty. I'm like, point guard? Then DJ came.
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: Look at me, damn eye to eye, 6'9, 6'10, like,
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: don't do me, shooting that motherfucker with range. I was like, oh,
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: this is where this shit going, right? And then Matt, Trace,
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: was a year before, like, so we started, you started,
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shit, this is the big card.
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: Right now they got, like, Elijah about 6'5, 6'6, he's
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: taller than Nick. Yes. He is a... Like, my son's
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: taller than Nick. Nick is listed 6'7. I'm like, I'd
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: rather you just keep saying you're 6'5, and then you
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: get there, you motherfucker, all the 6'8. When they measure you,
[1:01:41] Speaker 3: that just.
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm 6'1.
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: So I remember when coming to the league, Steve Nash
[1:01:44] Speaker 4: was like my height. Now it's like, ain't no point
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: guards that size. Like, all the point guards, 6'3, 6'4. Like,
[1:01:50] Speaker 4: it's not even... I think I went to the.
[1:01:52] Speaker 3: Like, when I came in, you know how you're sizing
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: yourself up? And I'm sitting there like, shooting guard, I'm
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: small as hell. The point guards, like, Oh, they're still little.
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: So being a 6'4 point guy, that was an advantage
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: for me. Yeah. You, BD, J-Kid. And BD's short. But
[1:02:11] Speaker 3: he was just, he was just tough.
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, he played, he's strong as fuck.
[1:02:15] Speaker 3: Who else? Tino.
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: I'm just a big guard. Like, y'all post-up guards who
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: y'all didn't mind posting up. Shit, Chauncey used to post up. Chauncey, yeah,
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: fucking posting up. Oh, he getting you on that block.
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: He posting hella.
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: Come here.
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he posting you up.
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: Come here.
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: Even somebody like Brunson, right?
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: Come here.
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: I ain't gonna run around with you.
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: No, not at all. Brunson? Is he taller than you? Probably. Yeah, like,
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: how he plays, like, his height says 6'1, so that
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: means he's about, what, 6'3? Yeah. 6'3, with his shoes on. So, yeah,
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: he ain't... Jalen Brunson, you think he's that tall? I
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: thought he was 6'1. Is that 6'2? Yeah, I'm like...
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: But it's with his shoes on, so he's probably all
[1:02:54] Speaker 3: the 6'3. What is that he's 6'3, 6'4? I got
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: to see Jay LeBron because he looks short.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: You know what it is? He looks short. I want
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: to see Ja.
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: Because it is.
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: I want to see Ja.
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: It'd be this. It'd be this right here. They'd be
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: stubby and like Rondo look a little taller because he
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: got long arms.
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: And the shoulders. And the shoulders.
[1:03:18] Speaker 3: Wide shoulders, long arms make you look a little taller.
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: Rondo like 6'5 out there.
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, he do look like 6'5.
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: Until he dunked, he'd be like, yeah, he little. Until
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: he get that hand. Until he do all that, though.
[1:03:31] Speaker 2: All right, so let's get back quickly to Lakers discussion.
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: We had a spirited debate yesterday in the arena about
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: whether or not AD was the number one option on
[1:03:39] Speaker 2: this Lakers squad.
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: That was a debate?
[1:03:41] Speaker 3: Well, a discussion, debate, a talk.
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: We all agreed.
[1:03:45] Speaker 3: He's the number one.
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: So, Gil, how comfortable are you with AD as the
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: number one option?
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: You know what?
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: I think we just give AD a hard time. I
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: just think we just do it just to do it,
[1:03:59] Speaker 3: you know, because it's like real dominant or you're injured, right?
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: It's not many games where we're.
[1:04:09] Speaker 3: Like, oh, he was assed tonight, right? It's just like
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: little shit that AD does that we realize, oh, see,
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: here we go. You know, he fall, ankle injury. Now
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: he holding it up. Now you got to carry the motherfucker,
[1:04:21] Speaker 3: stop the game for 30 minutes, get the ambulance, right?
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: You got to move the crowd, walk them through there.
[1:04:26] Speaker 3: He's smiling, doing this. They come out five minutes later.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, come right back in the game. They be the
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: little antics. Poked in the eye, fucking nipple twisted.
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with this game.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: It's nothing.
[1:04:38] Speaker 4: And it just makes it worse because he played for
[1:04:40] Speaker 4: the Lakers, so we don't have patience.
[1:04:41] Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with his actual game. Like,
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: his game, he's been dominated. It's just that little shit. Yeah,
[1:04:48] Speaker 3: because as soon as he do something, I'm like, oh, shit. Like,
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: every single.
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: I'm around watching him like, all right, here we go again.
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: So what is it going to be next?
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: Goddamn.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: But when he's out there, you can't deny what he's doing,
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: what he has done since New Orleans to now.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: I think the issue with him, especially with Lakers fans
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: that fourth quarter, there's a tendency... That's recently. That's only recently.
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: But it's been a consistent thing.
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: That's coaching.
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: Because Braun has been so dominant, y'all ain't paid. If
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: that was the thing, y'all didn't have time to pay
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: attention to it. But almost like you want to see
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: AD be like, yo, give.
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: Me the rock. But he was in no position to before.
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: But that's called coach awareness. You have to understand if
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: somebody's checking out or floating... And you got to try
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: to nip it in the bud, right? If you know
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: AD only does this in the fourth quarter, just like anybody, right?
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: Usually I sub you out the start of the fourth.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: You, Bron, sub out.
[1:05:46] Speaker 3: Maybe I might have to start my fourth quarter different. AD,
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: you start, right? I'm going to play you the first
[1:05:52] Speaker 3: three minutes. I need you to get off, right? So
[1:05:55] Speaker 3: first five plays come to you. Maybe you hit two
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: of them. Sub out. At least he's going to hit
[1:05:59] Speaker 3: some buckets. and then when we bring him back in,
[1:06:01] Speaker 3: he's active, versus just letting him float around, he's coming in,
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: trying to fill his way in, and then game over,
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: and he's like, damn, he took two shots. Two tips? Damn.
[1:06:10] Speaker 3: That's what we've been doing.
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: So we all sitting on the bench before the fourth
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: quarter start, who got the pad, what he's supposed to do.
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: Yep. Right?
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: This is what we said last, like, what, playoffs, when
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: he only took them two shots, we said, you got
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: to get, to your point, got to get him involved, right?
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: So it's coaching, like you said. Draw up the first
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: two players of the court any fucking way. Leave them
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: out there. Draw up three, whatever you need to be, but, hey,
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: we're gonna play through AD the first three possessions of
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: the quarter. Whatever y'all call, he need to touch it.
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: You ain't gotta call shit, but, hey, whatever you call,
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: he need to touch it. Just make sure you got...
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: You don't.
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: Have to touch that bitch, you know what I mean? Right.
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: Unless it's a fast break.
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: That's it. If it's a set, out of bounds.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: Whatever the play is, to get Anthony Davis the ball,
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: that's what needs to be called the first, but.
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: You know that it's... And, but then, too, it's.
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: Coaching and it's personality, too, because you.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: What, demand? I guarantee you, motherfucking Zach Randolph, when he
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: was playing.
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: Yep, yep. You know what that McClint did.
[1:07:24] Speaker 3: And then on defense, when you cut through, he passed
[1:07:26] Speaker 3: the motherfucking ball next time down. Yeah. But he ain't
[1:07:28] Speaker 3: never been that.
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: I got your help.
[1:07:30] Speaker 4: But he ain't never been that. Yeah, that part, right?
[1:07:35] Speaker 4: But you got to... No, I hear you.
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: In order to become something, you got to change something, right?
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: Do you think he can do it now in his career?
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: The dude on his way out, man....
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: There's no pushback. Like, he's on his way out. There's
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: no pushback. Like, LeBron is limited. They don't borrow time
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: with LeBron James. He got about five years left. Okay,
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: whatever it is.
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: Four years borrowed.
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Borrowed time is crazy. You don't borrow
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: time with dude. Man, he's 40.
[1:08:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: Whatever you're doing, just keep doing it. At any given day, whatever,
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: he can wake up tomorrow and say, I'm good. Shit, man,
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: I ain't had my fill, y'all. He ain't gonna do it,
[1:08:18] Speaker 1: but he could, because it's... Now, where do you go?
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: Now, you.
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: So, yeah. Bruh, yes.
[1:08:26] Speaker 3: It is.
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: Flip the switch. Shoot your way out of it. Shoot
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: your way the mother... Hey, man, we need you to...
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: We got a couple other guys we need, but let
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: it be that. You two agree. Let us come on
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: this couch and be like, God damn, man, he's.
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: Aggressive as a mother. He's saving 35.
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, these motherfuckers, hey, double, triple T out there,
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: he getting it. Let us have that to say now, right?
[1:08:59] Speaker 3: Like, hold on.
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Nobody's complaining about nobody being aggressive ever
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: in the NBA.
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: And this is the problem with player development. You have
[1:09:09] Speaker 3: too many coaches on the sideline. Everyone has their own personal, right, coach. Now,
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out if you're 80s guy, what
[1:09:26] Speaker 3: the fuck are you saying to him? Because I'm watching him, right?
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: I'm taking my notes. And I'm going to let him know.
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, we got... Across the board, motherfucker.
[1:09:40] Speaker 3: Zero, zero, zero. God damn it. Hey, I need two
[1:09:42] Speaker 3: more rebounds. I need five this. Like, I'm going to
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: be coaching him throughout the game so he's always mentally active.
[1:09:51] Speaker 3: The first time out, hey, hey, hey. Shit, you got
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: one rebound, zero shot attempt, zero points.
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: No blocks, man. Come on.
[1:09:59] Speaker 3: Hey, you need to get me. I need six, three,
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: and two. All right, come on, man. Let's go.
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what the score is. I
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: need to keep him activated, right?
[1:10:09] Speaker 3: If every coach do their part to keep every... Because
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: just like anything, we get lost in the sauce sometimes. School,
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: you motherfucking teachers talking, and your ass wandering the fuck
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: off somewhere over there thinking about some shit.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: I can't wait to reset.
[1:10:25] Speaker 3: That happens in NBA, too, where we're just running through
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: the motherfucking motions. So if you're a coach... And these
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: are your guys. Keep them going. Talk to them. Right, B.I.A.?
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: This shit look like a motherfucking football field. Motherfucker, you
[1:10:40] Speaker 3: got four niggas that just ah, ah, ah.
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: Like college.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: They're doing college? Four, three, two, you know what I mean? Like,
[1:10:47] Speaker 3: you know when a motherfucker got 45 and he need
[1:10:50] Speaker 3: to get to 50. Who's going to do it?
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are like, I mean, who
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: are the guys? Who are the coaches back there? Bro,
[1:10:57] Speaker 1: they got a basketball team. They got enough people on
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: the staff and stuff, man, but players gotta sit on
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: the back row. Guys, players have to sit four benches,
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: four chairs behind the bench. And what are they doing?
[1:11:10] Speaker 3: Nothing.
[1:11:11] Speaker 4: So how many coaches is more than what we had?
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: 12 coaches. 12 coaches.
[1:11:16] Speaker 3: They didn't have a coach for every player.
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: We didn't have that many.
[1:11:19] Speaker 3: Hell no.
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: They got a coach for every player now.
[1:11:21] Speaker 3: Three in the division, coaches, this.
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: So you got your player development guys.
[1:11:25] Speaker 3: The normal ones.
[1:11:26] Speaker 1: You got them, however many of them is them. You
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: got three, four, five of them because they playing five
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: on five.
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: Five on five.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We always have those. So you
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: got four or five of them. Then you got your skill.
[1:11:36] Speaker 1: You got the shooting coach. You got a couple shooting
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: coaches because you got a couple of them. You got
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: your skill guy. You got your Rico Hines. You got
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: the skill guy.
[1:11:43] Speaker 3: Shout out Rico.
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: You got your fields on staff.
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: Yep. He got a guy that works because he can't
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: work out of everybody. Yep.
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: And then what's the three? The guy in the front.
[1:11:54] Speaker 1: That's the assistant coach.
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: What's his name?
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't the top assistant. Then the second assistant.
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: Then you got them. Then you got the head coach.
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: There's like 12 to 14 people. A lot of fucking coaches.
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: It wasn't that many, bro.
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: I don't know. I was talking to Wes on cell.
[1:12:11] Speaker 3: And he said, man, the only problem about being a
[1:12:13] Speaker 3: coach now is your coaching job is... very different than
[1:12:21] Speaker 3: it was before he said now after every practice i
[1:12:25] Speaker 3: gotta have a five to ten minute meeting with every
[1:12:28] Speaker 3: developmental coach that tell me how they player is developing.
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: He said so i'm sitting here.
[1:12:35] Speaker 3: What in a meeting you how's brandon jennings doing okay
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: okay how many shots did he get up how was
[1:12:40] Speaker 3: mccann's doing okay okay how is kenyon doing.
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: He got to go through every fucking player guy.
[1:12:47] Speaker 3: So he's sitting there spending an extra two hours talking
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: about what everybody did today. And he said, I just
[1:12:54] Speaker 3: want to coach the game. So to do this, to.
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: Go back and tell Josiah the head coach... Yeah, Brandon
[1:13:04] Speaker 1: shot 1,500 shots. He was shot 72% from this spot, 41%
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: from three from the corner. He missed Thursday, Friday. Yeah.
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: Wild times. For you to go in that motherfucking steel,
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: get the same amount of minutes that you was or
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: you was not going to get.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: Let's keep this thing moving because we got some breaking
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[1:14:38] Speaker 1: get to some breaking news.
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: Just came down the wire, courtesy of Shams from ESPN.
[1:14:44] Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler what?
[1:14:45] Speaker 3: Nope. Nope.
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: The Sacramento Kings are expected to open up talks to
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: potentially deal all-star De'Aaron Fox ahead of the February 6th
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: trade deadline.
[1:14:55] Speaker 3: That's fucking real news. What you mean? That's some good news.
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox. Under Armour athlete, legend.
[1:15:01] Speaker 3: Get him from Sacramento so he can.
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: There'll be plenty of suitors, but it's believed that Fox
[1:15:04] Speaker 2: has a target destination in mind ahead of the 2026
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: free agency. So he's averaging 25 points, six assists, five
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: rebounds in 43 games this season. Was an All-Star, third-team
[1:15:14] Speaker 2: All-NBA selection Clutch Player of the Year 2023. So has
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: one year remaining on his deal. Earlier this season said
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: he was going to wait to see what the Kings
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: did in terms of signing his extension. But I know
[1:15:25] Speaker 2: one thing, if I'm the Kings, I would love a
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: package of Rui.
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: Max Christie... Christian Wood, a first-round pick. Gabe Vincent. Ooh!
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: News is he got fucking traded. This is not fucking news. Like,
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: no shit he going to get. So we didn't know
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: that they was out here shopping, the motherfuckers? We did
[1:15:46] Speaker 1: not know that. That's the fuck we did. You don't
[1:15:48] Speaker 1: have to tell me publicly that the Sacramento Kings could
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: possibly be trading him, Sabonis, fucking Monk. All the motherfuckers
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: can go right now. They ain't winning. Right now, they
[1:15:58] Speaker 1: winning with Doug, but trust me. Have been performing very
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: well with Doug, Chris, and Caden, as you know. Right now,
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: but they've been... Trust me, man.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: Sacramento has seven Chili's in the metropolitan Sacramento area.
[1:16:07] Speaker 1: This is what tanking finna look like. You think tank
[1:16:11] Speaker 1: right now after all the recent... If they talking about
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: trading him, yes. Yo, he can go to.
[1:16:14] Speaker 3: Right? Yo, he can.
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: Yo, he'll be a good piece of it. See, this
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: is not new. News is that Darren Fox got traded.
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: That's breaking news. That's reason to break up the fucking show.
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: They're seeing if you... First of all, let me do
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: my host thing. I've been working real hard. Breaking up
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: the show to tell me some shit that might happen.
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: He wants to go to a big city.
[1:16:32] Speaker 3: Talking about some real cool, important shit.
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: You go talking about the Lakers and Anthony, which I
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: don't like talking about the Lakers. I was trying to
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: move off the Lakers for you, Kenyon. Talk about some
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: real shit that happened.
[1:16:43] Speaker 3: The Lakers, that's some real shit.
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, we was talking about them. We should have kept
[1:16:46] Speaker 1: talking about them, breaking up the fucking show somewhere. Some
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: potentially shit.
[1:16:49] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: Potentially shit.
[1:16:51] Speaker 3: Did I just hear you say that we should have
[1:16:52] Speaker 3: kept talking about the Lakers?
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: Yes, over some potential shit? Absolutely. God is good.
[1:16:56] Speaker 3: God is good all the time. He could potentially be
[1:16:58] Speaker 3: going to a big market like Lakers.
[1:17:00] Speaker 1: Potentially good. Talk about what? No, report to me that
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: they traded him. So the news.
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: Before the season was he wasn't going to sign his extension.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: You know, wanted to see what the Kings were going
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: to be able to do.
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: That's cap. Started out struggling. I'm saying he hasn't signed
[1:17:14] Speaker 3: the extension.
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: Yet, though.
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: They ain't awful. What extension?
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: They ain't awful. He can't sign it. There ain't nothing else. Guarantee,
[1:17:21] Speaker 1: they come to that motherfucker with 240. He ain't... He
[1:17:25] Speaker 1: fucking signing it. So, I don't hear that shit, man. No,
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: he got.
[1:17:30] Speaker 3: That was the thing that all Sacramento got mad at
[1:17:35] Speaker 3: me for saying, and he chimed in, right?
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, he did chime in, Gil, as I recall.
[1:17:41] Speaker 3: I said, it is not in their best interest, goddammit,
[1:17:43] Speaker 3: that you signed that super, super max. Right? You can
[1:17:46] Speaker 3: sign right now the 240, but you don't want to
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: sign that because if you sign it, then have All-NBA,
[1:17:53] Speaker 3: you missed out on $ 100 million.
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: So you want to wait. How does that work with
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: that 2023 All-NBA? Like, does that impact his ability to
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: get the NBA?
[1:18:02] Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, so he needs the All-NBA this year. And
[1:18:06] Speaker 3: my whole thing was, I'll pay a motherfucking million, I'll
[1:18:09] Speaker 3: pay a couple million dollars for him not to make it.
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: If I'm going to save that 50, I'll give away 20.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: I'll give away, what? So, remember, I said it back then,
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: so it's like.
[1:18:18] Speaker 2: Kings fans did get mad at you, said Brandon can't
[1:18:20] Speaker 2: pull up to Sacramento.
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: He don't want to. Said Kenya can't pull up. You
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: weren't even on the show that day. You said nothing.
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: He just got thrown in. Said I'm not welcome either.
[1:18:27] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, it's just... This is part of
[1:18:30] Speaker 3: the business of basketball. I wasn't even here that day.
[1:18:33] Speaker 3: This is the business of basketball that nobody pays attention to.
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: I'm a Chili's fan and have ample Chili's options, okay?
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: For those who like Americana, deep discounts on their food options.
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: Kings currently 24-22 in the NBA.
[1:18:49] Speaker 3: Underachieving.
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: 10th in the West right now.
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: Underachieving.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: But have shown new life under interim head coach Doug Christie.
[1:18:56] Speaker 1: They have underachieved so far this season with the talent
[1:19:00] Speaker 1: that they have.
[1:19:01] Speaker 3: Where would D.
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: Fox go?
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: Do you believe that D. Aaron Fox could benefit from
[1:19:04] Speaker 2: a change of scenery? Let's just talk about it from
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: the D. Aaron Fox angle first.
[1:19:08] Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Listen.
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: He's only going to go to....
[1:19:13] Speaker 3: He's getting the benefits of... And he's been in the
[1:19:16] Speaker 3: league long enough to know, man, I'm getting fucked over here. Right?
[1:19:20] Speaker 3: It is messing with my endorsements, my money, my shoe sales.
[1:19:23] Speaker 3: So when he say he has a destination, we all know, okay,
[1:19:29] Speaker 3: you're trying to go to San Francisco. Okay, cool. You're
[1:19:32] Speaker 3: trying to go to L.A., New York. Somewhere in New York.
[1:19:36] Speaker 3: You're trying to get to a big market so you
[1:19:38] Speaker 3: can capitalize on your game because how you play the
[1:19:41] Speaker 3: game is not being recognized. And figure if you're in
[1:19:44] Speaker 3: a bigger market, you will look better. Globally.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: Hey, man, Sabonis.
[1:19:49] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:19:50] Speaker 1: Package them. Hey, man, Sabonis. I mean, you can ask,
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: was it Ernie Bickerstaff?
[1:19:56] Speaker 3: Ernie Bickerstaff.
[1:19:57] Speaker 1: They're not going nowhere together.
[1:20:00] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: They're not going nowhere together, but they both... Bernie is
[1:20:03] Speaker 1: the fuck. They can do... They could leverage their future
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: with them. They could get a lot of draft picks,
[1:20:09] Speaker 1: assets and stuff right now. They could do that for
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: each one of them guys right now. And throw in
[1:20:15] Speaker 1: Malik Monk. So here's the thing, he's got one year
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: left on his deal. He should be able to get
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: out too, but that's what DeMar fucked up.
[1:20:21] Speaker 2: Got one year left on his deal. We'll make $ 37
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: million next year.
[1:20:24] Speaker 1: Opt out.
[1:20:25] Speaker 3: But I'm just.
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: Opt out. No, no opt out.
[1:20:28] Speaker 3: Oh, so he already.
[1:20:30] Speaker 1: He's already, yes.
[1:20:31] Speaker 3: Oh, fuck.
[1:20:33] Speaker 1: So that's my point.
[1:20:34] Speaker 3: So is it an extension this year?
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: He's extension eligible, I believe. I think he got assigned
[1:20:38] Speaker 2: an extension last summer, if I'm not mistaken. He was
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: eligible to do so. His side was reporting that they
[1:20:44] Speaker 2: were holding off on wanting to see the moves the
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: Kings made. I don't know what the Kings said. Like, oh, shit,
[1:20:48] Speaker 2: we holding off too. How old is he?
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox. 26? He is. 6, 7? 27 years old.
[1:20:53] Speaker 1: Just turned 27 in December.
[1:20:55] Speaker 3: Yeah. He want that super max. He want what his
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: game say.
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: Because he's been deserving of, his game and numbers have
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: said he's deserving of at least 13.
[1:21:09] Speaker 3: So 25-6-5 this season.
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: Problem being it's in Sacramento. That 25-6-5 looks a lot better.
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: If it's in L.A., if it's in New York. New
[1:21:20] Speaker 2: York and Boston.
[1:21:22] Speaker 3: Even Miami.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: Because you're on national television. You're on national television. Playing
[1:21:26] Speaker 1: at four. People seeing you. Yeah, people seeing you playing
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: on the East Coast, right?
[1:21:33] Speaker 3: Not on Tubi.
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: They seeing you scoring 60. Them things new. Them bunions.
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: You're catching a cramp.
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: You got a cramp in yourself.
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: I know.
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: It's that Syrah. That De'Aaron Fox. He's scoring 60. Now
[1:21:44] Speaker 1: them people. Some Syrah. Yeah.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: So.
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: Sean's report said that... Damn, hey, man.
[1:21:50] Speaker 3: Hey, man, y'all got to check that Ciroc bottle, man.
[1:21:52] Speaker 3: God damn, this motherfucker paralyzing me.
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: This is crazy.
[1:21:56] Speaker 3: This is the first... Nah.
[1:21:57] Speaker 1: You still drinking Ciroc? Nah, it was in there, man.
[1:22:01] Speaker 3: I'm like, God damn, give me two shots of Ciroc.
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: Your motherfucking leg going numb.
[1:22:07] Speaker 3: Is this how it starts?
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: Y'all think I'm playing. Oh, Lord have mercy.
[1:22:14] Speaker 3: You got to tranquilize it. I see. I see. I
[1:22:17] Speaker 3: see why motherfuckers is out there going crazy.
[1:22:20] Speaker 1: At the parties, man. Gil drinking the baby oil flavor.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: Yo, shit. My shit just started freezing up.
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: Take that. Take that, Gil. Take that. Take that. I'm sorry, man.
[1:22:34] Speaker 3: I just... Yeah, I'ma just keep that one off, man. Hey, man.
[1:22:39] Speaker 1: Told you about drinking that's a rock. He ain't even
[1:22:41] Speaker 1: know it.
[1:22:44] Speaker 3: I'm over here just like, was shit going up?
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: But back to De'Aaron Fox quick before we move on.
[1:22:52] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: Sean said he has a target destination in mind. Where
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: do you think De'Aaron Fox wants to continue his basketball
[1:22:58] Speaker 2: career for Trey Ward to happen?
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: Said he has a target destination.
[1:23:01] Speaker 3: You already know where he want to go.
[1:23:03] Speaker 4: Top three spots? You gotta be San Francisco, LA, or
[1:23:07] Speaker 4: New York.
[1:23:08] Speaker 3: Miami.
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: So going to the Warriors to join staff. Miami. You
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: think Miami is his?
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: Miami.
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: Preferred destination in Kenya. Why do you think Miami, after
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: all the discussions we've had.
[1:23:17] Speaker 3: About heat culture?
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: It ain't got nothing to do with him. Prison with
[1:23:20] Speaker 1: an ocean view is something.
[1:23:21] Speaker 3: It ain't got nothing to do with him.
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: They'll send the Jimmy to Sacramento?
[1:23:24] Speaker 3: I would. Oh, yeah.
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: I'd send his ass right to Sacramento. I'd send his
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: ass to Sacramento. Right to Sac-a-fuckin'... Right tomorrow.
[1:23:33] Speaker 3: But if you're the Kings, why would you do that,
[1:23:35] Speaker 3: knowing Jimmy has a player option?
[1:23:36] Speaker 1: The guy won't out. The other guy won't out.
[1:23:38] Speaker 3: But you're coming out of money.
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: Oh, well.
[1:23:40] Speaker 2: But you got Gary Fox under contract next season, so
[1:23:43] Speaker 2: you can wait till next trade deadline.
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: Listen, that'll be a trade for your ass. But that's... Hey, man,
[1:23:48] Speaker 1: it's a bonus. Package some shit up. You can get
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: off Duncan Robinson contract. You can get off Tyler Hero.
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: You can get off... You keep Bam for us, a
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: bonus five, Darren Fox at the one, you get rid
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: of Jimmy.
[1:24:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of money, but yeah.
[1:24:04] Speaker 1: Kings go back to where they was at. Yeah, they
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: go back to who you are. But y'all been in
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: the basement.
[1:24:12] Speaker 3: Go back to dollar beer night, goddamn it. Get everybody
[1:24:14] Speaker 3: in the arena. You know how to do it. Y'all
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: do a good job.
[1:24:16] Speaker 1: That one year when y'all was in third seed, somebody
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: opened the motherfucking shutter door, you picked.
[1:24:20] Speaker 3: Your head out. Fresh air.
[1:24:23] Speaker 1: Somebody close that bitch with your nose in it.
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: Talk about the Arco arena. The Arco, yeah. The Arco.
[1:24:29] Speaker 3: Let me just throw a team out.
[1:24:30] Speaker 1: New Arena, nice, too. Yeah.
[1:24:31] Speaker 3: The old ones.
[1:24:32] Speaker 1: Oh, Arco was a fucking shithole. That shit was right
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: here on you, though. It was loud in that motherfucker.
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: Cowbells and shit. That was like a high school gym, though.
[1:24:40] Speaker 4: Because the fans was like right there, so they didn't
[1:24:41] Speaker 4: have that deep.
[1:24:42] Speaker 1: We was a rival. Right up on you in that motherfucker.
[1:24:45] Speaker 1: We was trash, but it was crazy. Y'all like Golden 1, though.
[1:24:47] Speaker 1: The Golden 1 joint, nice.
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: Brandon, you said San Francisco potentially linking up with Steph Curry.
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: Under Armour brand athlete. Could be.
[1:24:55] Speaker 3: What do you think would be a good fit?
[1:24:57] Speaker 1: One and two.
[1:24:58] Speaker 3: It's a small ass backcourt.
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: Preferred trade destination. My thought is whoever got bread. That's
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: a petite backcourt is what we would call that.
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: How he plays. Miami would be a good stop for him. L.A.
[1:25:16] Speaker 3: I'd trade him for Todd Hero.
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: If they dumb enough to do that, I'll do it.
[1:25:21] Speaker 1: Something else, though.
[1:25:23] Speaker 3: No, no, no. This will be a three.
[1:25:24] Speaker 1: This is gonna have to be multiple team packages and
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: draft picks and all kind of shit finna be exchanged
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: for this and for that to go down.
[1:25:32] Speaker 3: Gil, we had a playback watch party last night.
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: Jeff T.
[1:25:34] Speaker 2: Club 520, B-Han, everybody pulled up. We were watching the Celtics.
[1:25:38] Speaker 3: Damn, my invite?
[1:25:39] Speaker 1: Well, fuck you, too. This was Gil's sanction. I had
[1:25:43] Speaker 1: Little League practice. I had to scurry on over. Well, Gil, well,
[1:25:46] Speaker 1: fuck you. We were getting our... I found that at 430.
[1:25:51] Speaker 2: We were getting our Juan Soto crack at Kenya, as
[1:25:53] Speaker 2: you know. Getting that Juan Soto crack, and I know Black,
[1:25:55] Speaker 2: trying to get my kids right.
[1:25:56] Speaker 3: I know.
[1:25:57] Speaker 1: Oh, we on Monday.
[1:25:59] Speaker 3: What?
[1:26:00] Speaker 1: No, we going to get... Let me talk to him.
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: We will get him back. Please talk to him. He
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: told his mom, we had trials the other day. They
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: had makeup trials. He said, baseball?
[1:26:08] Speaker 3: No, we'll get it back.
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: No, I don't want to play that no more. We
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: got roadblocks. What it was, was they was interrupting that
[1:26:14] Speaker 1: baby Saturday, dog.
[1:26:15] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: Early-ass game?
[1:26:17] Speaker 3: I get it, Cash.
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: 8 o'clock game on the site?
[1:26:21] Speaker 3: I'm like, nah.
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: We asked the chat.
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: 70% of the chat thinks the Kings should trade De'Aaron Fox.
[1:26:27] Speaker 2: But like I said, we were watching that playback watch party, Celtics-Rockets.
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: So let's talk about that, and then we'll see if
[1:26:33] Speaker 2: De'Aaron Fox can move to H-Town.
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: That'd be interesting.
[1:26:36] Speaker 2: So Houston Rockets faced the defending champion Celtics last night.
[1:26:42] Speaker 2: They went into Boston and took over their trap accordingly.
[1:26:45] Speaker 2: Shout-out to the legend Paul Wall, fan of the show,
[1:26:48] Speaker 2: man of customized grills. This one was a back-and-forth affair
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: all night. Dylan Brooks tied a Rockets franchise record with
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: 10 threes, which is also a career high. He finished
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: the game with 36 points, one shy of tying his
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: career high. Eamon Thompson scored a career.
[1:27:01] Speaker 1: High 33 points.
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: In the game.
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: He was doing his thing, getting to work. Oh, look
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: at Dylan Brooks cooking.
[1:27:10] Speaker 3: Shout-out to the Canadiens.
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: Oh, they wanted nothing to do with this man right here. Yo,
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: Steven Adams is a very large human being. Yeah, he's
[1:27:20] Speaker 1: a big gentleman.
[1:27:24] Speaker 3: Oh, you see it.
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: He was out there absolutely cooking. All the way up.
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: Dillon Brooks hit this big three.
[1:27:31] Speaker 3: I like that.
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: Two minutes to go in the fourth. But game on
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: the line.
[1:27:34] Speaker 3: Tied at 112. The Celtics' number one option got cooked.
[1:27:38] Speaker 3: Thompson hit a.
[1:27:40] Speaker 2: Jumper DeGroote, less than one second on the clock to
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: give the Rockets the win.
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: Jabari Smith should be worried. And we were talking about
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: that on the playback last night. Jabari Smith Jr. should
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: be worried.
[1:27:50] Speaker 2: It was a big win for Houston, who got it
[1:27:52] Speaker 2: done without their top two stars having great nights. Jalen
[1:27:55] Speaker 2: Green only scored 12 points. Operation Goon had 11 points.
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown led the Celtics 28 points, and Tatum had
[1:28:01] Speaker 2: 19.7 rebounds, 6 assists. Celtics are now 8-6 in the
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: month of January. We'll talk about them in a second,
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: but back to Houston over their last three games. Rockets
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: have two wins over the Cavs and a win over
[1:28:12] Speaker 2: the Celtics to their credit. And at 31 and 14
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: on the season, they're currently holding down the second spot
[1:28:18] Speaker 2: in the West. Is it time to start taking the
[1:28:20] Speaker 2: Houston Rockets seriously as a contender?
[1:28:26] Speaker 1: I'm going to give it one more year. See, you
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: threw that word in there at the end and you
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: fucked it up.
[1:28:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, like, so, yeah.
[1:28:34] Speaker 1: Let me contend, is it time to start taking the
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: Rockets seriously? They still stuck down the stretch.
[1:28:39] Speaker 3: So, yeah.
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: Taking them seriously? Taking them seriously, yes. Regular season team, yes.
[1:28:44] Speaker 1: Start taking them serious, yes. They have a, yes. Good coach, good, yes. Yes.
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: We need to... They didn't make the playoffs last year.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Shout out to the fine boys. They had a great
[1:28:55] Speaker 1: run towards the end of the season. They didn't make
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm just saying, KD. I said they didn't
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: make the playoffs.
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: They built some momentum though at the end of the season.
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: At the end, they made some momentum, didn't get them in.
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: We know where momentum works at. I'm saying, but this year,
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: they're showing growth, right? They're showing growth.
[1:29:10] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:29:12] Speaker 1: They make it get in, win the first round.
[1:29:14] Speaker 3: Series this year.
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: Or a couple games. No, to put that word in
[1:29:20] Speaker 1: there that he used, you got to win a fucking
[1:29:22] Speaker 1: series this year.
[1:29:25] Speaker 3: You got to win a series this year to go
[1:29:26] Speaker 3: with B-Set for next year. Right?
[1:29:28] Speaker 1: You got to win a series and it has to
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: be dominant this year. Or just win it for two.
[1:29:35] Speaker 2: Producers, not coming from me, producers would like to point
[1:29:38] Speaker 2: out that the Dallas Mavericks made the NBA Finals last
[1:29:41] Speaker 2: year after not making the playoffs the year before.
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: But they have Luka Karim.
[1:29:45] Speaker 3: There's a difference between them, Dallas, and there's between Dallas
[1:29:52] Speaker 3: and Houston. Dallas team, their best players is veterans still.
[1:30:00] Speaker 3: You have a veteran guard that know how to play basketball.
[1:30:05] Speaker 3: Playoff basketball, winning basketball. And you have Luka, who is
[1:30:09] Speaker 3: a very different player. Houston is young, right?
[1:30:15] Speaker 1: You got to treat them like OKC, right?
[1:30:18] Speaker 3: OKC is still not championship ready, right? They're still trying
[1:30:24] Speaker 3: to fine-tune some of those other players. You got Shea,
[1:30:28] Speaker 3: who can hold his own in a playoff, but everybody
[1:30:30] Speaker 3: else is still trying to figure out how to be great. Houston,
[1:30:36] Speaker 3: there's not going to be any consistency. They play against
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: Dallas in the first round, they lost.
[1:30:41] Speaker 1: They play against Denver, they lost, right?
[1:30:43] Speaker 3: There's nobody at that bottom end that they're going to
[1:30:47] Speaker 3: be able to play a half-court game and actually dominate them.
[1:30:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, so question for the couch. Because they're two-star players.
[1:30:56] Speaker 3: It's 22, and they don't really, they haven't got that.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, they ain't there yet. But they're really good, and
[1:31:04] Speaker 1: they have a really good coach. They defend, they scrap,
[1:31:09] Speaker 1: which goes a long way. And in a playoff series,
[1:31:12] Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, they get in, they win a
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: playoff series because they know how to scrap.
[1:31:17] Speaker 3: Maybe.
[1:31:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, we can start talking about it next year, but
[1:31:20] Speaker 1: I don't think they match up with certain guys in
[1:31:23] Speaker 1: the playoffs this year they're going to lose.
[1:31:25] Speaker 4: I think you said about bringing, I think you were
[1:31:26] Speaker 4: saying earlier this year, you said if Houston got, who
[1:31:29] Speaker 4: you said, if Houston got a vet, you were saying
[1:31:31] Speaker 4: somebody would be good over there.
[1:31:33] Speaker 1: I think that's why they went in. Was it Jimmy?
[1:31:35] Speaker 1: I think you said Jimmy.
[1:31:36] Speaker 4: I think you said if Houston got somebody like a vet,
[1:31:39] Speaker 4: they'd be able to go around.
[1:31:40] Speaker 2: That brings me to my next question. You guys said
[1:31:42] Speaker 2: the Rockets are a year away. We got the trade
[1:31:44] Speaker 2: deadline quickly approaching Thursday, February 6th. Could they fast track
[1:31:49] Speaker 2: that growth? We talked about the emergency of M.N.
[1:31:53] Speaker 3: Thompson. Amen, amen, amen. Okay, but even with that, see,
[1:31:58] Speaker 3: it reminds me of Phoenix Suns. It's still gimmicky. It's
[1:32:01] Speaker 3: gimmicky win-regular-season-games type of lineups, right, where you have a
[1:32:08] Speaker 3: 6'7 guy who's just a freak himself, you know, playing
[1:32:12] Speaker 3: at the four, right? You know, and then you got,
[1:32:15] Speaker 3: you know, Sangoon at the five. You're just not really.
[1:32:20] Speaker 1: It's easy to win games.
[1:32:22] Speaker 3: Right now, but when you play in the playoff playoff.
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to survive. They have
[1:32:28] Speaker 1: several draft picks at their disposal.
[1:32:29] Speaker 3: They still have a few picks left? They have several
[1:32:32] Speaker 3: draft picks at their disposal. Draft capital, yes.
[1:32:35] Speaker 1: With no contingencies to it?
[1:32:38] Speaker 3: That would be the caveat.
[1:32:40] Speaker 1: So it's a.
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: Little confusing, but I think OKC has the rights to
[1:32:46] Speaker 2: swap with Houston with the 2025 pick if that happens.
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: It depends on how bad they want to win. You see,
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: I think he gets... The OPC don't need you. If
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: they draft a motherfucker in the top, if they fuck
[1:32:54] Speaker 1: around and get a tie, they just doing shit to
[1:32:57] Speaker 1: do it if they get, like... Yeah, so they can swap.
[1:32:59] Speaker 1: Chill out. They have a first-round pick. Like, do some
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: real work. They got two first-round picks this year. Excuse me.
[1:33:04] Speaker 3: Like, what the heck?
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: The biggest toe future bag.
[1:33:06] Speaker 3: Do some real work, man. Goddamn. Two first-round picks.
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: Don't sit down. First-round pick of 2020. Or two, excuse me.
[1:33:13] Speaker 3: First-round pick of 2027. Also, a pick swap. This ain't
[1:33:16] Speaker 3: got nothing to do with, like... I'm trying. They have
[1:33:21] Speaker 3: better pieces than OKC got. They got picks. Houston got players.
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: And Houston has picks too, Gil. They don't have to
[1:33:30] Speaker 1: get rid of that.
[1:33:31] Speaker 3: They got players that these are high caliber players. They're
[1:33:35] Speaker 3: so loaded. with a bunch of talented kids that's already,
[1:33:44] Speaker 3: like you got Whitmore, you got a bunch of people
[1:33:47] Speaker 3: on your team where people be like.
[1:33:48] Speaker 1: And the one you just drafted. And the one you
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: just drafted. Reed Shepard? Reed Shepard, yeah. With him included,
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: we're talking about value that you can.
[1:33:57] Speaker 3: You have real value where some people, you're sitting at
[1:34:01] Speaker 3: your lineup like, yo, this is a loaded fucking squad.
[1:34:04] Speaker 3: No matter who sits, I have somebody who can come
[1:34:07] Speaker 3: in and steal.
[1:34:08] Speaker 1: Like if Jalen Green goes down, I got Whitmore.
[1:34:13] Speaker 3: He could put up fucking 20.
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: So he'd just stay where you're at then?
[1:34:15] Speaker 3: No.
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: No, no. Like, if you have, let's say, Shepard. Jabari Smith. See, Jabari,
[1:34:25] Speaker 1: I don't know if I let him go. Because the
[1:34:28] Speaker 1: thing is, you got Tyree Easton. I got Easton. But
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: Jabari going to cost more. Eventually, Jabari going to cost
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: more than Tyree Easton.
[1:34:36] Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying.
[1:34:37] Speaker 1: So I keep Tyree Easton and I trade. I get
[1:34:39] Speaker 1: off Jabari because he's the second pick in the draft.
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: Third pick in the draft, right?
[1:34:43] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: He's going to cost more.
[1:34:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, this is.
[1:34:47] Speaker 1: You got Reed Shepard, top five pick. Jalen Green, top
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: five pick. Jabari Smith Jr., top five pick.
[1:34:54] Speaker 3: You got.
[1:34:55] Speaker 2: So let me just read this to y'all. If I
[1:34:58] Speaker 2: can make this make sense. Lottery pick.
[1:35:00] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: Sangoon, first round pick. You got.
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: So it's... You got... Pieces who you're not using and
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: you still... So they got two first round picks in
[1:35:09] Speaker 1: this draft. Who's that?
[1:35:11] Speaker 3: Houston.
[1:35:12] Speaker 1: Houston, okay.
[1:35:12] Speaker 2: Two first-round picks in this draft. 2027, I believe they
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: have three first-round picks. 2028, they have a first-round pick. 2029,
[1:35:19] Speaker 2: they got a first... Or two first-round picks. Yeah. 2030,
[1:35:23] Speaker 2: they got a first-round pick. 2031... Yeah, that's.
[1:35:26] Speaker 3: Doable, man.
[1:35:27] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[1:35:29] Speaker 3: They can go.
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: But their picks is cool.
[1:35:32] Speaker 3: They... they don't have to be dumb enough to get
[1:35:34] Speaker 3: rid of them. What I'm saying is they have gold
[1:35:37] Speaker 3: right now.
[1:35:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, they got gold, but... Like, you're talking about.
[1:35:40] Speaker 2: You can put those players that that's your gold and
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: still have this draft.
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: But with them picks, it makes it platinum.
[1:35:44] Speaker 3: No, but what I'm saying is I don't... But I
[1:35:46] Speaker 3: don't need to. I can use those picks later. I
[1:35:48] Speaker 3: don't need to... I don't need to enhance it with picks.
[1:35:50] Speaker 3: I literally have 22-year-olds... 23-year-olds who can play.
[1:35:55] Speaker 1: And I'm dangling the potential of you getting a 19-year-old
[1:35:59] Speaker 1: with them 22-year-olds with this pick. So what you're saying, yes.
[1:36:03] Speaker 3: Let's say Easton and Whitmore.
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: What does that get you in open market? Whitmore and Jabari.
[1:36:10] Speaker 3: What does that get you in the open market? I
[1:36:12] Speaker 3: got you a nice forward, and I got you a
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: great guard who can put buckets in. What you going
[1:36:17] Speaker 3: to give me? And a pick, though. And you want
[1:36:18] Speaker 3: a pick? I can throw in a pick, a little
[1:36:20] Speaker 3: cherry on top.
[1:36:21] Speaker 1: Careful, though. You know what I mean? I mean, you
[1:36:24] Speaker 1: got a lot of talent.
[1:36:25] Speaker 3: Give me Bam. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:36:27] Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do that.
[1:36:28] Speaker 1: Leave Bam where he at.
[1:36:29] Speaker 3: Leave Bam where he at.
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: I don't need Jimmy.
[1:36:30] Speaker 3: I got him. I got enough motherfucking wings that can
[1:36:33] Speaker 3: go get it.
[1:36:34] Speaker 1: But do you get rid of some of them?
[1:36:35] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:36:36] Speaker 1: You got too many. But Pat gonna want some of
[1:36:38] Speaker 1: them picks back. So I think it works, bruh.
[1:36:40] Speaker 3: But I don't want to think what I'm saying is
[1:36:42] Speaker 3: the one person that don't need Jimmy will be Houston.
[1:36:45] Speaker 3: I have this 6'7.
[1:36:45] Speaker 1: But they don't do what he do, though.
[1:36:48] Speaker 3: I got a busload of these niggas right here.
[1:36:50] Speaker 1: But they don't do what he do, though.
[1:36:51] Speaker 3: I know, but they do need a vet. You give
[1:36:53] Speaker 3: me Sabonin or you give me one of them Wagner
[1:36:55] Speaker 3: Frogners over in Orlando? Hey, Orlando, y'all having a problem
[1:36:59] Speaker 3: with Frogner and Pajero?
[1:37:00] Speaker 1: Which one do you want to get rid of?
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: They're not breaking that up.
[1:37:03] Speaker 1: I know, but which one?
[1:37:04] Speaker 3: They look like they have the followers over there. But
[1:37:06] Speaker 3: right now.
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: You want to get a vet?
[1:37:09] Speaker 3: If I'm Miami, I'm doing it.
[1:37:11] Speaker 1: If I'm Perry Island, I'm doing it. I mean, Houston
[1:37:14] Speaker 1: has a lot of talent.
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: And picks.
[1:37:16] Speaker 1: Right now, do you want to win? I think they're
[1:37:18] Speaker 1: trying to win now.
[1:37:19] Speaker 3: Because I'm winning now, but the position that I need
[1:37:22] Speaker 3: right now, right now, I need a power forward.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: If I can get a veteran power forward.
[1:37:30] Speaker 3: I'm good because with the young guard, with Amon and
[1:37:35] Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks and all that, whoever I sub, I can
[1:37:39] Speaker 3: sub in either. I don't want to put my 6'7 guard.
[1:37:42] Speaker 1: At the power forward. I don't want to put him
[1:37:45] Speaker 1: at the power forward.
[1:37:46] Speaker 3: I don't.
[1:37:47] Speaker 1: You can put Dylan.
[1:37:48] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: You don't want to. I can throw Dylan Brooks in there.
[1:37:51] Speaker 3: No, no, fuck.
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: Leave him where he at. Leave him right in Houston.
[1:37:53] Speaker 1: Him and Jimmy together out there, motherfucker.
[1:37:56] Speaker 3: Oh, on the wings?
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: You can hide Jalen. Fred at the point, winning experience.
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: I'm doing that, dog. I'm doing that, bro. They're too small.
[1:38:09] Speaker 1: I'm doing that. They play fast. I'm doing that. I'm
[1:38:12] Speaker 1: doing that if I'm Miami. It just reminds me, like,
[1:38:14] Speaker 1: I don't... I'm doing that. Their whole team is 6'7.
[1:38:17] Speaker 1: Couple picks, couple players they got. So you got players
[1:38:20] Speaker 1: that you can build with now.
[1:38:21] Speaker 3: Unless you're getting rid of Fred and then put Jenna
[1:38:23] Speaker 3: Green at the point, Jimmy at the two.
[1:38:26] Speaker 1: No, Jenna can't play the point. I think Fred got
[1:38:28] Speaker 1: to go. No, Fred stay where he at.
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: You need Fred.
[1:38:31] Speaker 1: Would you make a play for Jaren Fox? You need
[1:38:33] Speaker 1: Fred to calm that shit down.
[1:38:35] Speaker 3: Fred still makes big shots. But you got Jimmy. I
[1:38:38] Speaker 3: put Jimmy at the point. I got to make it up.
[1:38:41] Speaker 3: Don't put Jimmy decision-making in there. Fred got a championship.
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: Fred knows what it is to win when it's on
[1:38:48] Speaker 1: the line, so I'ma go with Fred.
[1:38:50] Speaker 3: As my point.
[1:38:53] Speaker 1: But, dude, that's enticing, because they got them picks. Jeff
[1:38:58] Speaker 1: Green's still over there? You got them picks, man. Like,
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: you're 6'7 across the board. He still be playing? With
[1:39:04] Speaker 1: a big man who's not playing. You got Steven Adams
[1:39:06] Speaker 1: still over there. Oh, yeah, they do got some vets.
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: Dude.
[1:39:11] Speaker 1: Boston. Hey, that might be it. Yo, Hughes can do that.
[1:39:15] Speaker 1: And what we just said went, yeah, they definitely win
[1:39:18] Speaker 1: the first round. They get Jimmy Butler. I mean, you're
[1:39:21] Speaker 1: talking about. Hey, they definitely win the first round series.
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: They get Jimmy Butler. Too small. I forgot, Steven.
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: But they can make multiple. The point is they can
[1:39:28] Speaker 2: make multiple moves. They don't have to make one. They're
[1:39:30] Speaker 2: going to scrap, Gil.
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: They're going to play in a way with Emmy, with
[1:39:33] Speaker 1: the fucking Udoka over there, coaching them up.
[1:39:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm rolling.
[1:39:36] Speaker 1: They went into Boston and they got that. I'm rolling
[1:39:38] Speaker 1: with that. I'm rolling with Houston and Miami making that deal.
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: Because you can throw Reese.
[1:39:43] Speaker 3: I got to treat them like Denver, right, where my
[1:39:46] Speaker 3: center is not athletic at all. So if my center's
[1:39:51] Speaker 3: not athletic, I really do need two or one more
[1:39:55] Speaker 3: athletic big back there that can clean up, you know, something,
[1:39:59] Speaker 3: just be there. Thompson, he's doing a good job, but
[1:40:04] Speaker 3: this is regular season. He's not going to be able
[1:40:06] Speaker 3: to pull that shit in the playoffs. Right? So either
[1:40:09] Speaker 3: I'm going to say I'm riding with him because the
[1:40:12] Speaker 3: motherfucker's just special.
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:40:14] Speaker 3: And now it's like, because the position for me is
[1:40:17] Speaker 3: between him and Dylan Brooks. That moving forward. It's between
[1:40:21] Speaker 3: them two.
[1:40:21] Speaker 1: But hear me out, though. In a playoff series, right?
[1:40:24] Speaker 1: So we're talking about long-term, talking about playoff series. Okay,
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: he's giving you what he's giving you now. He's young, right?
[1:40:30] Speaker 3: He's playing well now.
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: If he's giving you some of that, if he's giving
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: you one or two games in the playoffs, great.
[1:40:36] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: But you got two guys that you don't have to
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: play him. Jeff Green's still serviceable. Man. I ain't saying
[1:40:45] Speaker 1: a lot. Key word, that phrase. Serviceable. Knows what it takes.
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: Throw him out there a few minutes at a time.
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: If that's the case. If young fella ain't grown within
[1:40:57] Speaker 1: you need his growth to depend on him in the
[1:40:59] Speaker 1: playoff series, right? I'm rolling with Dylan Brooks and Jimmy
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: Butler and guarding any of these soft-ass fours that just
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: want to shoot jump shots in the NBA. Give me
[1:41:14] Speaker 1: them two all day. Because I know the fight that
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: you're going to get with them, it ain't going to
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: be easy. I don't give a fuck the size of
[1:41:21] Speaker 1: the motherfucker that they got to guard. They both going
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: to scrap when that shit on the line. That I
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: do know. They can say whatever they want to about
[1:41:29] Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks. When that shit getting nut-cut in time, he
[1:41:33] Speaker 1: going to scrap. He going to lace the motherfuckers up
[1:41:35] Speaker 1: and get to it. But what do you have when
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: they get in foul trouble? You still got Jeff Green,
[1:41:39] Speaker 1: Steve Niles. You still got stuff, but you're not just,
[1:41:43] Speaker 1: you're putting this shit together. You still got enough pieces
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: over there. You still got Tyree Eason. You still got
[1:41:49] Speaker 1: Jay Sean Tate. You still got motherfuckers over there, man, that,
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: trust me, You want to make it a two-point game?
[1:42:01] Speaker 1: They don't shoot. They shoot threes, but they ain't just
[1:42:04] Speaker 1: firing that bitch at will.
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the game. Talking about one other
[1:42:09] Speaker 2: player they got over there. Rockets are no stranger to
[1:42:11] Speaker 2: hitting on draft picks lately. Here's a fourth overall pick
[1:42:14] Speaker 2: in the 2023 draft. Eamon Thompson fits the billing as well.
[1:42:18] Speaker 2: Here's what he said after hitting the game winner last night.
[1:42:21] Speaker 3: How would you describe the feeling as that shot left
[1:42:23] Speaker 3: your hands and you knew you guys had it?
[1:42:25] Speaker 1: That felt great. I knew this was going to happen.
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: I knew this was going to happen.
[1:42:30] Speaker 1: That's my first game winning. I feel like Kobe.
[1:42:36] Speaker 3: He's tall, man.
[1:42:38] Speaker 2: So Rockets 4 is coming off his first career 30-point game,
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: averaging 14.8 rebounds while shooting 56% from the field. So
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: since being named at the starter in January, he's averaging
[1:42:48] Speaker 2: 19 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists. Do the Rockets have
[1:42:53] Speaker 2: a future star in Amon Thompson? This is the conversation
[1:42:55] Speaker 2: we had last night on our playback watch party. Everybody
[1:42:58] Speaker 2: not going to be here, like Magic said.
[1:43:02] Speaker 1: Future star, I don't know, but his future is bright.
[1:43:08] Speaker 3: And... He just... He's like a jimpy.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: Like watching him play last night.
[1:43:15] Speaker 3: He just don't have a jumper that's going to keep everybody...
[1:43:19] Speaker 3: That's cool. He knows how to play basketball. Slash, cut, rebound,
[1:43:23] Speaker 3: offensive rebound. Neither does Giannis.
[1:43:25] Speaker 1: Can't fuck about that jump shot shit yet, man. Like,
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: to me, that's okay. 13 for 19 from the field, bro.
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: He understand what I need to do to be effective.
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: I'ma get by this orange thing with this glass thing
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: that's around it.
[1:43:39] Speaker 3: I'ma get by that.
[1:43:40] Speaker 1: I'ma get close to that as I possibly can, because
[1:43:41] Speaker 1: my percentages are fucking high.
[1:43:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm looking at him, I'm trying to develop it.
[1:43:48] Speaker 1: He's my future three.
[1:43:51] Speaker 3: Okay. Or, like.
[1:43:54] Speaker 1: I'm with you.
[1:43:55] Speaker 3: Can Jalen, like, in today's game... Can you not put
[1:43:58] Speaker 3: Jalen Green at the point? And, I mean, you're just
[1:44:02] Speaker 3: bringing the ball up, and then from there you're just
[1:44:03] Speaker 3: creating offense. Right? If I can do that, then I
[1:44:06] Speaker 3: can push everybody down, put Thompson at the two, Dylan
[1:44:09] Speaker 3: Brooks at the three, have Smith at the four, and
[1:44:13] Speaker 3: Sangoon at the five. I got a big lineup that's
[1:44:16] Speaker 3: very versatile, right, that's going to run up and down.
[1:44:19] Speaker 1: Then I can still play half-court basketball. Does he pass enough, though,
[1:44:23] Speaker 1: at the one? Trapper's asked enough.
[1:44:27] Speaker 3: He'll pass.
[1:44:31] Speaker 1: Blitz's ass, he's off of it. But I mean, in today,
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: when you think about the concept, like... Jesus Christ.
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: And then you got Dylan Brooks.
[1:44:39] Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to think, because he's a.
[1:44:41] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:44:42] Speaker 1: Because he needs.
[1:44:45] Speaker 3: The ball, right?
[1:44:45] Speaker 1: Because the jaw can play the... Point, yeah.
[1:44:49] Speaker 3: And if he come downhill, he got a head of steam,
[1:44:51] Speaker 3: they fuck around. Oh, God. Oh, God damn. Yeah.
[1:44:53] Speaker 1: Because look out. But that would be... He get to two,
[1:44:57] Speaker 1: like Jai, yeah, he.
[1:44:59] Speaker 3: That would be my move, where I'm sitting there looking
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: at this group and I'm like, the best lineup that
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: I can have that would be dominant offensively and defensively,
[1:45:09] Speaker 3: if I have Jalen Green at the point... Him at
[1:45:12] Speaker 3: the point. And then I have Thompson or Dylan Brooks
[1:45:15] Speaker 3: at the 2-3, it don't matter how they play the game.
[1:45:18] Speaker 3: And then I have Jabari at the 4-3. In Sangoon
[1:45:22] Speaker 3: at the five, I have a solid, solid, really athletic team.
[1:45:27] Speaker 3: There's no lineup that I actually worry about. There's not
[1:45:32] Speaker 3: going to be one person besides Luka that fucks up
[1:45:36] Speaker 3: my lineup. But I can put Dylan Brooks on Luka
[1:45:40] Speaker 3: or Youngfella, and I'm sitting there like... I like that, too.
[1:45:46] Speaker 3: I like putting the ball in Jalen's hand. And then
[1:45:48] Speaker 3: when I go small, boom.
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: I also like bringing Jimmy Butler into this current situation
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: that we have and getting off a few of these
[1:45:55] Speaker 1: young guys. If we're trying to win right now, within
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: the next few, I'm doing this, man. Will you get
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: rid of Easton? I'm doing this. I'm keeping Tyree.
[1:46:04] Speaker 3: I'm keeping him.
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: Keeping who?
[1:46:06] Speaker 3: Tyree Easton. Because I ain't got to pay him eventually.
[1:46:10] Speaker 3: So you'll get rid of Jabari? I'm getting rid of Jabari, unfortunately.
[1:46:14] Speaker 1: Jabari can play, man.
[1:46:15] Speaker 3: I know. That's why I want to keep him. But
[1:46:18] Speaker 3: his trade, but this... Money-wise.
[1:46:21] Speaker 1: Money-wise. Because you're going to have to use the second, third.
[1:46:24] Speaker 1: You got to pay him.
[1:46:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, money-wise.
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: I got to go, too.
[1:46:26] Speaker 3: No.
[1:46:27] Speaker 1: No.
[1:46:27] Speaker 3: If I can keep, though, like, I got Whitmore. See,
[1:46:30] Speaker 3: I got Whitmore, and I got Young... See, Whitmore is... Shepard.
[1:46:35] Speaker 1: Whitmore might play, might not play. He ain't one of them.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: Jason Tate might play, might not play. Yeah. They ain't
[1:46:39] Speaker 1: one of them situations, right?
[1:46:41] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:46:42] Speaker 1: Unfortunately. But that's the situation they're in.
[1:46:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, Whitmore... Tate in the last year, his deal, too. So, therefore, it's...
[1:46:50] Speaker 3: Whitmore and Shepard, that is my... I'm trying to... Y'all
[1:46:54] Speaker 3: need some firepower, right? I got these two young guys.
[1:46:58] Speaker 3: They ready to go. They eager to play. And Shepard is.
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: No, that's Pat Riley's type of guy.
[1:47:03] Speaker 3: And a pick. And a pick.
[1:47:04] Speaker 2: But you have Fred Van Fleet. I know you guys
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: are saying to keep him. What do you mean by that?
[1:47:08] Speaker 2: But he's on a team option. This summer.
[1:47:11] Speaker 3: So, yeah.
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: So, you got $ 45 million, but team option.
[1:47:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's, see.
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: Because you can go that for Jimmy pretty much. See,
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: that point guard position, to be honest.
[1:47:24] Speaker 3: That's crazy.
[1:47:25] Speaker 1: The point guard position right now, that's. Pat ain't going
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: to do that.
[1:47:28] Speaker 3: Pat won't pick.
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: That's the least of my worries. But I don't want
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: to pick. Yeah, but I can throw him in there.
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: He's going to win at least three firsts because he's
[1:47:33] Speaker 1: going to, because Jimmy the head. Because of the headache
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: that this motherfucker didn't put me through, y'all gonna have
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: to compensate me. I need a couple of them first-round picks.
[1:47:42] Speaker 1: You gonna try to go get that Dwyane Wade or not?
[1:47:44] Speaker 2: The point being, the money matches, but now you don't
[1:47:47] Speaker 2: have to worry about breaking bread with him next year,
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: so now you still get to get that Jimmy bread
[1:47:50] Speaker 2: off your books either way.
[1:47:51] Speaker 3: Houston and OKC, they in some... They really have to be, like,
[1:47:56] Speaker 3: they got to be sitting there really thinking.
[1:47:58] Speaker 1: You got to be careful.
[1:47:59] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because right now. And not
[1:48:01] Speaker 3: fuck up what we have. We got a whole bunch
[1:48:03] Speaker 3: of good shit right here. We got to figure out
[1:48:05] Speaker 3: how to make it a meal.
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. And that would be the other thing.
[1:48:08] Speaker 1: Because OKC needs to figure out how to shit. Because
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: you can trade the wrong piece and be fucked.
[1:48:12] Speaker 3: And I can tell you, that wrong piece is Thompson-Ratner.
[1:48:14] Speaker 3: You can't replace that.
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: And if you're Houston watching the situation in Miami, are
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: you looking and saying, I want to bring that.
[1:48:22] Speaker 3: You're not sitting here.
[1:48:23] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, do I want to bring Jimmy into
[1:48:26] Speaker 2: this organization seeing what's going on out over there?
[1:48:28] Speaker 1: Because you're going to get a different Jimmy.
[1:48:30] Speaker 3: Yeah. You're not seeking... Jimmy's going to play for sure.
[1:48:33] Speaker 3: You're hearing what's going on out there.
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: Okay. So this is... When you... From what I've heard,
[1:48:44] Speaker 1: and I think I know of Emi Udoka, him and
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: Jimmy would never have an issue.
[1:48:51] Speaker 3: No.
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: Because how Jimmy plays the game of basketball is what
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: that embodies.
[1:49:00] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:49:02] Speaker 1: Play the right way, go out, do your job, compete,
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: game on the line, make a San Antonio upbringing, background,
[1:49:08] Speaker 1: all that. That's the. The way to play basketball. And
[1:49:11] Speaker 1: he made from the stories we heard, not afraid to
[1:49:13] Speaker 1: squabble enough. If things come to that. We can throw
[1:49:16] Speaker 1: hands if you want. And he's a truth teller amongst men.
[1:49:21] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:49:21] Speaker 1: And what I got, he's a truth teller amongst men.
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: What you need in that environment with a guy like
[1:49:25] Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler.
[1:49:27] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:49:28] Speaker 1: He's not going to let Jimmy dog it. He's going
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: to call Jimmy ass out in the film. He's going
[1:49:32] Speaker 1: to ask Jimmy, what the fuck you doing? Why you
[1:49:34] Speaker 1: didn't get back? Why you didn't do the... He's going
[1:49:36] Speaker 1: to bring it to the attention of the said.
[1:49:40] Speaker 3: Corporate.
[1:49:41] Speaker 1: That's what I see. So you'll get a better version
[1:49:45] Speaker 1: of Jimmy because who's coaching him right now. But I
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: like it. Who says it's going to happen? But Houston, yeah, it's– but, yeah,
[1:49:57] Speaker 1: all those things with Fred being a team option and
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts. He's a– If I
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: can keep him, I can keep him.
[1:50:05] Speaker 3: But if somebody has more value than I have, like
[1:50:08] Speaker 3: somebody with a solid goddamn guard that can really control.
[1:50:11] Speaker 1: The game, cool. He helps us out.
[1:50:15] Speaker 3: But if you're going to give me something that I
[1:50:17] Speaker 3: really need... But this reminds me of, and I don't
[1:50:21] Speaker 3: think teams... Think about who... We know what Celtics looked
[1:50:25] Speaker 3: like last year, right? We know the core. Some of
[1:50:29] Speaker 3: you guys are Boston Celtics... Three years ago. And just
[1:50:36] Speaker 3: time needs to go by. Right? Think about all the
[1:50:42] Speaker 3: people who said they should have broke this team up
[1:50:45] Speaker 3: a long time ago, not knowing that they're too young
[1:50:49] Speaker 3: right now to experience what you want. So maybe some
[1:50:54] Speaker 3: of you guys, which was Houston, which is OKC, you
[1:50:58] Speaker 3: guys are Boston three years ago, and you guys just
[1:51:01] Speaker 3: need to go through some hardships for the armor to
[1:51:04] Speaker 3: kick on before these guys are ready to win championships.
[1:51:08] Speaker 2: But this is what I'll say about FVV. I love
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: for FVV, but $ 45 million team option next year.
[1:51:14] Speaker 3: They're not picking that up. That's on.
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: So if you know.
[1:51:17] Speaker 2: I'ma just be on there. But if you know you're
[1:51:19] Speaker 2: not picking that up... Can you dangle that out as
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: a trade piece?
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: No.
[1:51:24] Speaker 3: To get a move.
[1:51:25] Speaker 4: Because that Boston team, they lived through a lot.
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, they lived through a lot.
[1:51:30] Speaker 3: But I can use that now.
[1:51:31] Speaker 1: Because any team you trade them to.
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: No, no, no. What I'm saying is.
[1:51:34] Speaker 1: I'm saying come off of that.
[1:51:35] Speaker 3: Technically.
[1:51:36] Speaker 1: It's coming off my book.
[1:51:37] Speaker 3: Technically, I can use Fred, Shepard, Whitmore, two picks to
[1:51:46] Speaker 3: give me Jimmy. You don't even need all that.
[1:51:48] Speaker 1: I know, but I can use it, but.
[1:51:51] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[1:51:51] Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to drop Fred. He's going to whatever.
[1:51:54] Speaker 2: If you offer that, you're getting Jimmy plus something else.
[1:51:58] Speaker 2: You got to look at that heat roster, see what
[1:51:59] Speaker 2: you want, because you don't need all that.
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: Jaime is? No, they're not getting rid of him. They're
[1:52:04] Speaker 1: not getting rid of Jaime. But the FEV and the
[1:52:07] Speaker 1: money matches up. Is he part of the future? The
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: bread matches up. He's part of the future. Shout out.
[1:52:15] Speaker 3: Jaime Jaquez, the pride of Camarillo. Yeah, he's part of it.
[1:52:17] Speaker 1: I mean, they don't... It's like, who the fuck they
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: got over? That's the thing. That's the thing. Hey, man,
[1:52:22] Speaker 1: y'all better start.
[1:52:23] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey.
[1:52:29] Speaker 1: What you finna say, fool?
[1:52:30] Speaker 3: Billups. Chauncey. He got Grant over there. Mm. Grant. That motherfucker, that,
[1:52:40] Speaker 3: he can... He can change a lot.
[1:52:42] Speaker 1: Of people's... Lineups. That's the third team. Right?
[1:52:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can change a lot of people's lineups. A
[1:52:51] Speaker 3: lot of people need a player like that, and you
[1:52:53] Speaker 3: can really... And you need some more, you know.
[1:52:56] Speaker 1: Picks.
[1:52:57] Speaker 3: You need some picks and some shit that you can
[1:52:58] Speaker 3: mix around in there and try to figure out a lineup,
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: because right now it ain't working the way you're working,
[1:53:04] Speaker 3: and they're young and athletic, but they just ain't meshing.
[1:53:07] Speaker 3: And go ahead and make a couple tweaks to that lineup,
[1:53:09] Speaker 3: and you'll be fine. All right, so we asked to chat,
[1:53:11] Speaker 3: is Amon Thompson a future all-star player? 84% said yes.
[1:53:15] Speaker 1: They rolling.
[1:53:16] Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Celtics a little bit. Just 5-5
[1:53:18] Speaker 2: in their last 10 games. Now just a one-game lead
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: over the Knicks for second seed in the Eastern Conference.
[1:53:25] Speaker 2: Should the Celtics be looking over their shoulder at the
[1:53:27] Speaker 2: Knicks in the East?
[1:53:31] Speaker 1: Steve, put that shit in there.
[1:53:33] Speaker 3: Steve, put that. Okay, I did write that question. Steve,
[1:53:36] Speaker 3: I'm going to protect you.
[1:53:40] Speaker 1: We are a family. The reason I.
[1:53:42] Speaker 4: Ask is Does it matter if the Knicks or the
[1:53:46] Speaker 4: Cavs or anybody else have a home court advantage over
[1:53:49] Speaker 4: the Celtics in the Eastern Conference playoffs?
[1:53:50] Speaker 3: No. See? Good.
[1:53:51] Speaker 1: But you didn't have to elaborate. See, we are family.
[1:53:53] Speaker 1: I was about to protect it.
[1:53:54] Speaker 3: I'm just saying when just Knicks came out of nowhere,
[1:53:56] Speaker 3: I'm like, that's out.
[1:53:57] Speaker 1: That's a Steve question right there. Yeah, you know my
[1:54:00] Speaker 1: feelings for New York.
[1:54:01] Speaker 3: That's a New York Knick. Die hard.
[1:54:04] Speaker 1: Knicks playing well now, though.
[1:54:05] Speaker 3: I like the Knicks, man. They all right. I know black.
[1:54:09] Speaker 4: I mean, but home court advantage? If they finish two?
[1:54:15] Speaker 3: Denver's not like, listen, Denver's not worrying about home court advantage.
[1:54:19] Speaker 3: They better. They better, because if they see these Lakers
[1:54:22] Speaker 3: in front, that's a different team. We got AD now.
[1:54:25] Speaker 3: Let's not start that.
[1:54:27] Speaker 1: Can we not do that shit, Josiah?
[1:54:28] Speaker 3: Are we allowed to talk? There's certain teams that need
[1:54:32] Speaker 3: home court, and then there's certain teams that not.
[1:54:34] Speaker 1: Denver don't need home court advantage. Cleveland does. Cleveland does.
[1:54:40] Speaker 1: In Boston. Boston don't.
[1:54:41] Speaker 3: They've shown that they can win in any arena. They've,
[1:54:44] Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those teams that, like, they
[1:54:48] Speaker 3: probably just coasting.
[1:54:49] Speaker 1: This shit get boring.
[1:54:50] Speaker 3: And then after All-Star break, they could be on a 10-game,
[1:54:55] Speaker 3: 15-game winning streak getting ready for the playoffs. It's all fucked.
[1:54:57] Speaker 2: But do we, because I know we keep saying that,
[1:55:00] Speaker 2: and I don't have doubt in this Celtics squad, but
[1:55:03] Speaker 2: watching them play.
[1:55:05] Speaker 1: They shoot a lot of threes.
[1:55:05] Speaker 3: Shoot too many.
[1:55:07] Speaker 1: It looked the same way it did last year. This
[1:55:08] Speaker 1: don't look like... Chucking a bunch of shit up there.
[1:55:10] Speaker 1: But they were running shit last year. Yeah, but it's
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: looking different. Yeah, they were thirsty to get that champion.
[1:55:14] Speaker 2: Exactly, but the hangover that... Tatum playing the Olympics. He's
[1:55:17] Speaker 2: played a lot of basketball.
[1:55:18] Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
[1:55:18] Speaker 1: He ain't playing the Olympics.
[1:55:19] Speaker 3: He ain't playing the Olympics. He was there, though. He
[1:55:20] Speaker 3: had a freestyle. He had to go. He had to go.
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: He was there drinking the water, waiting in the towel.
[1:55:24] Speaker 1: He wasn't good enough to play, as they say. He
[1:55:26] Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to play. But had to do all
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: the practices.
[1:55:28] Speaker 3: He was in it all the time.
[1:55:29] Speaker 1: Had to eat all the baguettes.
[1:55:31] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:55:31] Speaker 1: Baguettes.
[1:55:33] Speaker 2: But it's a lot of basketball... And not ask him
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: to come back and do the same thing. Not for
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: Jalen Bryant.
[1:55:38] Speaker 3: Nobody's worrying about him.
[1:55:39] Speaker 1: Not for Jalen Bryant. I want y'all to mark this clip.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Not for Porzingis. Not for Pritchard.
[1:55:46] Speaker 3: Not for... You know what I'm saying? Derrick White was there.
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: He played a little bit. Drew was a good bit.
[1:55:51] Speaker 3: There's a... I mean, the only flaw with them is...
[1:55:55] Speaker 3: The only flaw with them is they're driving.
[1:55:57] Speaker 1: They're driving.
[1:55:59] Speaker 3: They're driving a kick, not driving a score.
[1:56:03] Speaker 1: There'll be wide open layups, and then they're.
[1:56:05] Speaker 3: Trying to throw it here, and then they're going to
[1:56:07] Speaker 3: try to kick back to the three.
[1:56:08] Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you know you're wide open under.
[1:56:10] Speaker 3: The basket, right? Just pass it, just stay right there.
[1:56:13] Speaker 1: But they want to kick back to the three.
[1:56:14] Speaker 3: And I'm like, y'all making the game very, very hard. Like,
[1:56:20] Speaker 3: there's a lot of guards, and I'm going to just
[1:56:23] Speaker 3: throw it out there. When y'all are doing pick and roll,
[1:56:27] Speaker 3: some of you guys, your first couple times... Just go
[1:56:31] Speaker 3: at the big. Just come off, in and out that motherfucker,
[1:56:37] Speaker 3: and jump. There's really, the way you guys jump, there's
[1:56:41] Speaker 3: not shit going on down there.
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: These bigs aren't taking charges, right?
[1:56:46] Speaker 3: They're not blocking your shot running backwards on their heels.
[1:56:50] Speaker 3: There's not a lot of bigs out there. They got
[1:56:52] Speaker 3: 45-inch verticals, the Kins, the Javels, the... Them Clipper boys
[1:57:00] Speaker 3: that are sitting there doing this, the Andre, there's not
[1:57:03] Speaker 3: a lot of them in the league right now where
[1:57:05] Speaker 3: when you jump, they jumping with you, right? These motherfuckers
[1:57:09] Speaker 3: sitting there, you got the Yoki shit, he's sitting there
[1:57:11] Speaker 3: doing one of these half the time. Like, you come
[1:57:13] Speaker 3: off the pick and roll, that guard get hung up,
[1:57:16] Speaker 3: run at that motherfucker sitting there doing this. This is
[1:57:20] Speaker 3: what he's doing. He's not ready for you to go
[1:57:22] Speaker 3: by him. But when you come in there, sitting there
[1:57:24] Speaker 3: doing this, slowing your momentum down, you're feeding right into them.
[1:57:28] Speaker 1: Come off one, two times. Come off straight. Go and jump.
[1:57:32] Speaker 3: Watch what happens. Now when you come off the next time,
[1:57:35] Speaker 3: what you think they at?
[1:57:36] Speaker 1: They under the rim. They're not sitting at the free.
[1:57:38] Speaker 3: Throw line no more.
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: They're like, oh, shit. He done fucked me up.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: Let me sit under the basket.
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: Now you get to come up.
[1:57:42] Speaker 3: Do your little pull-ups. come up, he give you a
[1:57:44] Speaker 3: little hezy, he gonna do one of these, go by,
[1:57:47] Speaker 3: dunk him, laugh at him and shit. Like, you gotta
[1:57:49] Speaker 3: be able to play a different game. You sitting here
[1:57:52] Speaker 3: coming off doing a shimmy shade, snaking it a whole
[1:57:55] Speaker 3: bunch of times. You playing Chris Paul.
[1:57:57] Speaker 1: You playing Chris Paul. Chris Paul gotta play that way.
[1:58:00] Speaker 3: He got, you don't see De'Aaron Fox doing that shit?
[1:58:07] Speaker 1: Like, God damn. Going point A to B, God damn it.
[1:58:10] Speaker 3: Think about what, think about what early Westbrook, where was
[1:58:13] Speaker 3: motherfuckers sitting at?
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: They all, hey, hey, hey, help, help, help. All right.
[1:58:18] Speaker 3: Put a wall up. Like, he was forced to shoot
[1:58:21] Speaker 3: a free throw jumper.
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: Knocking that bitch down.
[1:58:24] Speaker 3: Right? Because everybody's, they're running like, soon as he came
[1:58:27] Speaker 3: off or coming down on the fast break, they just
[1:58:29] Speaker 3: sit under the basket waiting for him. That's, you need
[1:58:32] Speaker 3: to show that you're gonna just take off.
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit terrifying for them bitch. They scared, yeah.
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: They don't want you to go by them. You do
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: it first time. They just come off hard. Wow.
[1:58:43] Speaker 3: Lay up. Yeah.
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: No, I know.
[1:58:47] Speaker 3: I know. I'm just sitting there like... Turn that corner.
[1:58:50] Speaker 3: Turn that corner on East.
[1:58:52] Speaker 2: So we talk about Celtics 5-5 in their last 10 games.
[1:58:55] Speaker 3: Talk about the Cavs as well. Lost five of their
[1:58:58] Speaker 3: last nine games.
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:59:00] Speaker 2: The Cleveland Cavaliers Guild, the number one team at Adam
[1:59:03] Speaker 2: Silver's Eastern Conference, featuring number one option Donovan Mitchell.
[1:59:06] Speaker 1: Cavs in trouble. So how do we think that the
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: East shakes out? One, two, three.
[1:59:11] Speaker 2: So the Cavs currently have a five-and-a-half game lead over
[1:59:14] Speaker 2: the Celtics. Knicks have six and a half games behind. Bucs,
[1:59:19] Speaker 2: ten games behind. But Brandon Bucs been playing solid. Took
[1:59:22] Speaker 2: it out of the Clippers. Now, we're finding with a
[1:59:24] Speaker 2: win over the Jets.
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: Are we at four? You're currently at four, 26 and 18. Yeah,
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: we good right there. We're going to stay right there.
[1:59:32] Speaker 2: Pacers lurking behind you guys in the fifth spot. So,
[1:59:34] Speaker 2: you think it shakes out the same way. Cavs one,
[1:59:36] Speaker 2: Celtics two. Knicks three. Can the Knicks get on a roll, Steve? Man,
[1:59:41] Speaker 2: they're going to get on a roll to three.
[1:59:42] Speaker 3: Obviously. Obviously. They'll be the second seed. Okay.
[1:59:44] Speaker 1: So what's the Bucs? So the Bucs are how many games?
[1:59:47] Speaker 1: Fourth right now. So what is the records?
[1:59:50] Speaker 2: So the Bucs are. No, the Cavs are. Cavs are 37-9,
[1:59:53] Speaker 2: first in the Eastern Conference. Celtics 32-15, second in the East,
[1:59:58] Speaker 2: five and a half games behind the Cavs right now.
[2:00:00] Speaker 2: Knicks 31-16, six and a half game behind the Cavs,
[2:00:04] Speaker 2: one game behind the Celtics for the second spot. Bucs 26-18,
[2:00:06] Speaker 2: 10 games behind the Cavs. Three and a half games
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: behind the Knicks, four and a half games behind the Celtics.
[2:00:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Milwaukee can get to.
[2:00:16] Speaker 3: Absolutely. Milwaukee can get to third for the most part.
[2:00:21] Speaker 3: They can get to third. New York is not going
[2:00:25] Speaker 3: to get to second, right? I mean, Boston is the second. Right?
[2:00:30] Speaker 1: And they're not Boston's talent.
[2:00:32] Speaker 3: So, Boston is going to come out of the second
[2:00:35] Speaker 3: round trying to.
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: If they do.
[2:00:36] Speaker 3: Huh? If they do. If they do.
[2:00:37] Speaker 1: But for the most part... They come out after the break.
[2:00:40] Speaker 3: Yeah. I hear you. Yes.
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: After the break, they gone.
[2:00:41] Speaker 2: Do you think the Cavs will keep that same momentum
[2:00:43] Speaker 2: after the All-Star break?
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: Five-game lead.
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: They got something to play for.
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: They got something to play.
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: Like, to them, being number one is a thing for them.
[2:00:52] Speaker 1: They really believe that they are that.
[2:00:55] Speaker 3: So, it's going to be hard to really.
[2:00:56] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
[2:00:57] Speaker 3: It's going to be hard to knock them young boys.
[2:00:59] Speaker 1: They feeling it. Okay.
[2:01:03] Speaker 3: Shit.
[2:01:04] Speaker 1: The Knicks might fold, though.
[2:01:05] Speaker 4: Their next couple of games before off are pretty tough.
[2:01:08] Speaker 1: They got some tough games.
[2:01:09] Speaker 3: 2-3-4 is going to be interesting.
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: If Boston come out in the second half and wake up,
[2:01:14] Speaker 1: there'll be two.
[2:01:15] Speaker 3: There'll be two.
[2:01:16] Speaker 1: If they wake up in the second half, there'll be two.
[2:01:19] Speaker 3: 3-4? 3-4.
[2:01:19] Speaker 1: That's what I said.
[2:01:20] Speaker 3: 3-4. That can be intangible. Let's toss up.
[2:01:23] Speaker 1: Depending on who we get in this trade. No, no,
[2:01:25] Speaker 1: I'm going to.
[2:01:25] Speaker 3: Tell you right now. Thank you, Brandon. At the end,
[2:01:27] Speaker 3: it's going to.
[2:01:28] Speaker 1: Do just like it did before.
[2:01:29] Speaker 3: Don't do nothing.
[2:01:30] Speaker 1: You're going to get Bill.
[2:01:31] Speaker 3: Don't do nothing.
[2:01:33] Speaker 1: Leave him where he at. Zach Levine. I'll take him.
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: Leave Bradley Bill where he at. New York and Milwaukee.
[2:01:41] Speaker 1: It fucks up y'all chemistry. The only team y'all looking
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: at is going to be Miami. That's it.
[2:01:49] Speaker 3: The how I'm playing the end of the season is
[2:01:51] Speaker 3: how Miami's playing because I'm trying to match up with them.
[2:01:56] Speaker 3: As long as they're in the playoffs, I'm trying to
[2:01:58] Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to be it's going to be
[2:02:00] Speaker 3: a four five matchup is going to be a three
[2:02:02] Speaker 3: six matchup. But it's going to be one of those
[2:02:04] Speaker 3: matchups if I'm Knicks or Milwaukee. Because I know one
[2:02:08] Speaker 3: thing for sure, Jimmy ain't going to be there. And
[2:02:11] Speaker 3: if Jimmy ain't going to be there, fuck that team.
[2:02:13] Speaker 3: That team ain't even good enough to win a playoff series.
[2:02:17] Speaker 3: So that is exactly what I'm trying to do.
[2:02:20] Speaker 2: Do we anticipate the Heat staying in that sixth spot, though,
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: without Jimmy being there?
[2:02:24] Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck.
[2:02:27] Speaker 1: So everybody, whoever the Heat line up, that's the first
[2:02:30] Speaker 1: round matchup. Zach Levine compliments Dame Lillard. He's a spot,
[2:02:35] Speaker 1: he's a standstill shooter, can still athlete, athlete, make shots.
[2:02:41] Speaker 3: I've been hearing Zach's name a lot. Yeah, Zach is
[2:02:43] Speaker 3: one of those guys who don't need the ball to score.
[2:02:45] Speaker 1: What's the difference in Dame and Bradley Beal? Both ball dominant. Besides,
[2:02:52] Speaker 1: they're both, right? They both need the ball in here
[2:02:54] Speaker 1: to score. Zach don't. Zach don't.
[2:03:00] Speaker 3: That's why the Lakers, you don't need the ball. You
[2:03:03] Speaker 3: can play point guard all you want, goddammit. And if
[2:03:05] Speaker 3: you really want, you can put that bitch and you
[2:03:07] Speaker 3: can put the ball in his hand. He can definitely
[2:03:08] Speaker 3: play that position.
[2:03:10] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, should the Celtics be worried?
[2:03:12] Speaker 3: 99% said no.
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: 51% said no. 49% said yes.
[2:03:19] Speaker 3: What? What? I forgot. I forgot.
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: It's close to 50%.
[2:03:22] Speaker 3: I forgot.
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: What was the question? Should the Celtics be worried about
[2:03:28] Speaker 1: this season?
[2:03:29] Speaker 3: Worried about what? Yeah, I remember this is the chat.
[2:03:32] Speaker 3: Worried about what? That voted Lakers was a C-plus, and
[2:03:39] Speaker 3: then voted Rashad was right. Yeah.
[2:03:44] Speaker 1: I thought you asked me, is that obvious?
[2:03:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, but. But that was. Yeah, but. Yeah, so, yeah.
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: Rashad, if you're in the chat, fight back. But shout
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[2:04:31] Speaker 2: smartest way to hire. All right, so we're going to
[2:04:33] Speaker 2: go around. We're going to go around with some of
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: the best quotes recently with a game of facts or cap.
[2:04:41] Speaker 2: I'll give you guys a quote. You simply tell me
[2:04:43] Speaker 2: whether it's facts or cap. We haven't played this game
[2:04:45] Speaker 2: in a while, but it's a Gills Arena classic.
[2:04:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:04:48] Speaker 2: So first we're going to start Damian Lillard face off
[2:04:51] Speaker 2: against James Harden in the Clippers and witnessed a vintage
[2:04:54] Speaker 2: Harden's performance. Harden had 40 points, nine assists in the game.
[2:04:58] Speaker 2: When asked about why Harden doesn't get the respect he deserves,
[2:05:01] Speaker 2: here's what Dame said. He said, you got a group
[2:05:04] Speaker 2: of guys in the league right now that are on
[2:05:07] Speaker 2: that list of 75 greatest players. And I think in
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: the era that we in right now, you got people
[2:05:13] Speaker 2: on the internet and people in the media and people
[2:05:15] Speaker 2: on TV that they don't watch games. They just throw
[2:05:18] Speaker 2: out stuff and they talk bad about players and they
[2:05:20] Speaker 2: make it appear as if guys can't get it done anymore.
[2:05:25] Speaker 3: Saw Dame's quote.
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: So Dame says people in media and on TV don't
[2:05:30] Speaker 2: watch games.
[2:05:31] Speaker 3: Facts or cap? Facts. Facts.
[2:05:34] Speaker 1: Same shit we said.
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. We are not technically media. We are in that
[2:05:38] Speaker 3: gray area.
[2:05:39] Speaker 1: No, we've been said. We're ex-players.
[2:05:41] Speaker 3: We've been said.
[2:05:42] Speaker 1: That's very different. People don't watch games. They look at stats.
[2:05:45] Speaker 1: That's in highlights. Highlights and fucking make opinions off of it.
[2:05:48] Speaker 3: So, facts.
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: We do not do that. No, we watch basketball. Except
[2:05:54] Speaker 1: for the game. We watch the game. Yeah, we watch basketball.
[2:05:56] Speaker 3: I can see it, motherfucker. You got doubled?
[2:05:58] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:05:58] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[2:05:59] Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Not only do you watch basketball, you
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: understand basketball.
[2:06:03] Speaker 3: Very well.
[2:06:04] Speaker 2: I used to watch a ton of Doogie Howser as
[2:06:06] Speaker 2: a kid. That did not make me a doctor.
[2:06:10] Speaker 3: He played Doogie Howser. It didn't make him a doctor.
[2:06:12] Speaker 1: Not at all, yeah.
[2:06:13] Speaker 3: Shit, you know what I mean?
[2:06:15] Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely. That did not make me a doctor.
[2:06:18] Speaker 3: Reading that script, he really knows some shit. Get the
[2:06:22] Speaker 3: fuck out of here.
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: It did not make me a doctor. I've watched a
[2:06:25] Speaker 1: lot of lawyer shows. I've watched a lot of criminal shit.
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: Rizoli and I have a lot of law and order.
[2:06:30] Speaker 3: A whole lot of law and order.
[2:06:31] Speaker 1: Think you know the law, right?
[2:06:32] Speaker 3: Pull it over, saying this shit to the police. Man,
[2:06:36] Speaker 3: get your dumb ass out the car.
[2:06:37] Speaker 1: I'm in season 18. Give me your license and registration.
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: Say no goddamn TV.
[2:06:42] Speaker 3: 29 seasons. It was a 29, 30 season of law
[2:06:45] Speaker 3: and order. Black people been watching that shit and getting
[2:06:47] Speaker 3: their head cracked. Officer, I know my rights.
[2:06:52] Speaker 1: Okay. What's your dumb ass idea? I don't talk to police.
[2:06:55] Speaker 3: Okay. You got the right to shut the fuck up.
[2:06:58] Speaker 3: I see what he was doing. Yeah, all right.
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:07:00] Speaker 3: He say two words. Hey, no, no. They're that serious.
[2:07:04] Speaker 3: I thought about that shit. There was a post online.
[2:07:08] Speaker 3: where Ice-T was getting, he got a ticket. I think
[2:07:12] Speaker 3: he was getting his car towed. I'm going to the DMV.
[2:07:15] Speaker 3: I got an appointment. Yeah, that Laura Noda shit don't work,
[2:07:17] Speaker 3: don't do it, huh? Uh-huh. That's script and that's real.
[2:07:23] Speaker 3: That motherfucker said.
[2:07:24] Speaker 1: No, we towing this shit, Mr. T.
[2:07:26] Speaker 3: Or Icy.
[2:07:27] Speaker 1: Or who else?
[2:07:28] Speaker 3: DMX. Remember when DMX was chasing the.
[2:07:29] Speaker 1: Dude with the thing on top?
[2:07:32] Speaker 4: Like, bro, the movie don't work.
[2:07:35] Speaker 1: Great movie, though.
[2:07:37] Speaker 2: So when it comes to Dame Lillard saying people in
[2:07:39] Speaker 2: the media and on TV don't watch games.
[2:07:42] Speaker 3: Facts. All right. Let's keep it moving.
[2:07:45] Speaker 2: So after struggling in his first season in Washington, Wizards
[2:07:47] Speaker 2: guard Jordan Poole, having a career year, averaged 21 points,
[2:07:51] Speaker 2: five assists per game, Both career highs, also shooting a
[2:07:54] Speaker 2: career best 40% from three-point range, albeit for the Wizards,
[2:07:58] Speaker 2: who have the league's worst record at six in the league.
[2:08:00] Speaker 1: 6-39.
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: So according to Mark Medina of Sportskeeda, here's what Poole
[2:08:04] Speaker 2: recently said about his case for the All-Star game.
[2:08:07] Speaker 3: Man.
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: He said, I think I'm... K.N., okay, we are... This
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: is what he said. This show is brought to you
[2:08:15] Speaker 1: by Underdog. Okay, I'm listening. Jordan Poole said it! He's
[2:08:22] Speaker 1: an NBA player for the Washington Wizards. I think I'm
[2:08:24] Speaker 1: definitely an all-star. I play at an all-star level. A
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: lot of it can be political and situational, but performance-wise,
[2:08:31] Speaker 1: I think that I'm an all-star.
[2:08:35] Speaker 2: I was reading a quote. This is not deaf comedy, Jim.
[2:08:38] Speaker 2: There was nothing intended to be funny about that. Jordan
[2:08:45] Speaker 2: Poole thinks he should be an all-star. Facts or captain?
[2:08:48] Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here, man.
[2:08:50] Speaker 3: Cap. No, it should be a.
[2:08:51] Speaker 1: Kenyon has responded, get the fuck out of here. We
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: need to change the.
[2:08:53] Speaker 3: Name of this motherfucker, man.
[2:08:56] Speaker 1: Some shit like that, man. Get the fuck out of here, boy.
[2:08:59] Speaker 3: Cap. Man, if you.
[2:09:02] Speaker 1: Don't stop at your side, man, y'all could come up
[2:09:04] Speaker 1: with a better quote. Somebody that says some bullshit. This
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: is bullshit.
[2:09:09] Speaker 3: This is facts or cap.
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: Some actual shit that could possibly happen. This is facts
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: or cap, Kenyon.
[2:09:13] Speaker 3: Okay?
[2:09:13] Speaker 1: Okay. That is the... No, that is not. That's beyond cap.
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: A game loved by thousands. No, that is beyond cap. Yeah,
[2:09:23] Speaker 1: that quote is cap.
[2:09:23] Speaker 3: That is cap. That's beyond cap.
[2:09:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you think that he can.
[2:09:26] Speaker 3: Be an all-star?
[2:09:27] Speaker 1: Who? Jordan Poole. Fuck no.
[2:09:30] Speaker 3: No? At no point?
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: Fuck no. You see how he played the game? You
[2:09:35] Speaker 1: see how that motherfucker played the game of basketball? Mm-hmm.
[2:09:41] Speaker 3: Man, not a goddamn chance, man.
[2:09:43] Speaker 1: Can he hope to be an All-Star? He had his
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: best chance to make an All-Star team when he was
[2:09:46] Speaker 1: coming off the goddamn bench in Golden State.
[2:09:49] Speaker 3: Fair. Fair.
[2:09:50] Speaker 1: That shit has fucking sailed. He can't hope to be
[2:09:53] Speaker 1: an All-Star? No, listen. Yo, you can hope. You can
[2:09:58] Speaker 1: hope all you want. That's called betting, ladies and gentlemen.
[2:10:01] Speaker 1: That don't mean that.
[2:10:02] Speaker 3: Huh?
[2:10:04] Speaker 1: Just hope that we talking about with him?
[2:10:06] Speaker 3: Hump's point. Oh, wow. On the track.
[2:10:11] Speaker 1: On the track. Fucking Hunts Point. What's the shit down
[2:10:15] Speaker 1: in Figueroa downtown? Fucking Hunts. That's where that hope work.
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: This hope we talking about. With him making all, sure
[2:10:24] Speaker 1: going to track. Yeah. 20 for head, 50 for boom boom.
[2:10:28] Speaker 3: Well, well.
[2:10:30] Speaker 2: Not familiar with those price points, Kenyans. You know, I
[2:10:31] Speaker 2: read the Bible every day. But I will take your
[2:10:34] Speaker 2: word for it. Sure, inflation has got a hold of it.
[2:10:38] Speaker 2: Price of eggs keeps increasing.
[2:10:39] Speaker 3: I'm sure.
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: Boom, boom.
[2:10:40] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[2:10:41] Speaker 1: Everything else is going up as well. I'm going to
[2:10:42] Speaker 1: be nice a little bit.
[2:10:44] Speaker 3: Fuck that.
[2:10:45] Speaker 1: I mean, be truthful. Be truthful.
[2:10:49] Speaker 3: Don't be nice. Be truthful.
[2:10:51] Speaker 1: We're asking for your honesty here. Okay, so....
[2:10:56] Speaker 3: Is he going to be... Is he an all-star?
[2:10:57] Speaker 1: No. Has he been playing like an all-star?
[2:11:00] Speaker 3: No. Okay.
[2:11:03] Speaker 1: And here's why.
[2:11:04] Speaker 3: What? To be an all-star, you have to be consistent
[2:11:15] Speaker 3: for long periods of time. Right now, he's having great performances, mediocre.
[2:11:23] Speaker 3: Great performances, mediocre. Below mediocre. What ends up happening with
[2:11:27] Speaker 3: him right now is I think it's going to take
[2:11:30] Speaker 3: him one more year. He's had 23 games of 20-plus,
[2:11:32] Speaker 3: but he's had 15 games....
[2:11:39] Speaker 1: Of below 20. That's not an all-star. Yeah, no, for sure.
[2:11:43] Speaker 3: Teacher, teacher. That's not an all-star player right now, right?
[2:11:46] Speaker 3: You're talking about, like, when you're talking about that next level,
[2:11:48] Speaker 3: 38 games, 30, shit, it's not even 38 games. Yeah,
[2:11:52] Speaker 3: 38 games you done played, right? No, you missed seven.
[2:11:56] Speaker 3: So out of the 30, 30-something games, you got 15
[2:12:01] Speaker 3: games where you scored under 20 points. You're a hit
[2:12:07] Speaker 3: or miss right now. You got to make that. Ooh, ooh.
[2:12:12] Speaker 1: Teacher, she asked an easy question.
[2:12:14] Speaker 3: Ooh, ooh, ooh. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Easy question.
[2:12:17] Speaker 1: Teacher, teacher.
[2:12:20] Speaker 3: I got a question.
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: Y'all basketball savants and this motherfucker, right? How many people,
[2:12:28] Speaker 1: how many years have the NBA been around?
[2:12:30] Speaker 3: Long time.
[2:12:31] Speaker 1: Okay, long fucking time, right? 75. 75. How many All-Stars
[2:12:35] Speaker 1: made it when they team had fucking single-digit wins when
[2:12:39] Speaker 1: the motherfucking people picked them? But for him to even,
[2:12:43] Speaker 1: for one, whoever asked this fucking question is a dickhead
[2:12:46] Speaker 1: for one. He a dickhead for two for answering it.
[2:12:51] Speaker 1: He should have been honest, like, man, we got six.
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: The fucking answer should have been when.
[2:12:58] Speaker 1: You got six wins, right? You asked me about All-Star...
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: individual achievement, this motherfucker's ass should have been, man, we
[2:13:08] Speaker 1: got six wins, dog. It shouldn't have been nothing more,
[2:13:12] Speaker 1: nothing less.
[2:13:13] Speaker 3: But even if you're averaging 30 on a bad team,
[2:13:16] Speaker 3: you're playing like an all-star.
[2:13:17] Speaker 1: But I'm not. 21 and 5 is... No, but what
[2:13:21] Speaker 1: I'm saying is like.
[2:13:21] Speaker 3: But I'm not.
[2:13:22] Speaker 1: Even if you're averaging 30, you're not.
[2:13:23] Speaker 3: You're playing like an all-star. No, you're not. You are.
[2:13:25] Speaker 1: You got six wins. But that's team shit.
[2:13:27] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
[2:13:28] Speaker 1: What is that? You're not playing... You just chucked. You're averaging...
[2:13:32] Speaker 1: Them fucking points don't count.
[2:13:35] Speaker 3: What? Why? If I'm being double-teamed, you're darting me? You're
[2:13:37] Speaker 3: darting me. Them points don't... You got six fucking wins.
[2:13:41] Speaker 1: My team sucks. You suck with them.
[2:13:44] Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying this, how he's playing, him personally.
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: Okay, somebody picked you out the bag first out of
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: the suckers.
[2:13:53] Speaker 3: You suck.
[2:13:55] Speaker 1: With them. You in the bag with them, dawg. Them
[2:14:00] Speaker 1: points don't fucking count. How they don't count? Because for one,
[2:14:03] Speaker 1: he's only averaging 21.
[2:14:04] Speaker 3: If he wasn't... I know, but I'm just saying.
[2:14:07] Speaker 1: If he was averaging, they'll have more.
[2:14:08] Speaker 3: His answer should still be... You averaging 30. They ask
[2:14:14] Speaker 3: you about all-star.
[2:14:15] Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'm an all-star. In a normal situation, yeah,
[2:14:19] Speaker 1: but dog, we got six wins.
[2:14:20] Speaker 3: If I had six wins, I'm still an all-star. These
[2:14:23] Speaker 3: motherfuckers out here doubling me, tripling me, and I'm getting buckets.
[2:14:27] Speaker 3: I'm getting to the yams.
[2:14:27] Speaker 1: Nobody doubled or tripled a team when you were six wins.
[2:14:31] Speaker 1: That's why I averaged 30, because they down. So they're full. No,
[2:14:34] Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is.
[2:14:35] Speaker 3: And on a bad team, somebody got to shoot it.
[2:14:41] Speaker 3: And I'm shooting it.
[2:14:42] Speaker 1: And he only, in this situation, he's only averaging 21
[2:14:44] Speaker 1: in this situation. So, therefore. I'm just going to throw
[2:14:48] Speaker 1: it out there.
[2:14:48] Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball on a bad team as well.
[2:14:50] Speaker 1: He got voted in. 12 wins. They got six more
[2:14:54] Speaker 1: wins than them sorry motherfuckers. Twice as many wins. He
[2:14:58] Speaker 1: getting 30. He averaging 30 a night. He is the
[2:15:00] Speaker 1: brother of a famous rapper. Yeah, they suck too, though.
[2:15:02] Speaker 1: He's averaging 30 and the fans recognized it. No, I'm
[2:15:05] Speaker 1: just saying, and guess what the NBA said?
[2:15:08] Speaker 3: No, but if someone... Hear me out.
[2:15:11] Speaker 1: If someone asked him... Nah, fuck all that, man. No,
[2:15:14] Speaker 1: but if someone had asked.
[2:15:15] Speaker 3: Him, are you playing like an all-star?
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: I said normally, in a normal situation, yes. Listen, in
[2:15:21] Speaker 1: a normal situation, yeah, dawg, we got six wins, man.
[2:15:25] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying aesthetically, even if he had 50-something wins,
[2:15:32] Speaker 3: he personally right now is not playing like an all-star.
[2:15:36] Speaker 3: So therefore.
[2:15:36] Speaker 1: Your game is not dialed in where you're having.
[2:15:38] Speaker 3: The 22, 25. Like OKC, right? We can guarantee... that
[2:15:51] Speaker 3: motherfucker over there is going to have 30 to 34.
[2:15:55] Speaker 3: We can guarantee it. We can pencil it in.
[2:15:58] Speaker 1: If he has 28, we'll be like, damn, he had
[2:16:01] Speaker 1: a bad night.
[2:16:01] Speaker 3: Off night. Right? He had an off night at 28
[2:16:04] Speaker 3: because he's so consistent at doing this. Right? Right now,
[2:16:10] Speaker 3: you can have 40. The next night, if a motherfucker
[2:16:14] Speaker 3: say he might have 15, we got to look at
[2:16:16] Speaker 3: his line.
[2:16:16] Speaker 1: 15, 28.
[2:16:20] Speaker 3: I can't take the higher on the 15. You might
[2:16:23] Speaker 3: fuck around, have 9 or 11. That's where your game
[2:16:27] Speaker 3: is right now. It's not saying you're doing anything bad
[2:16:30] Speaker 3: just right now. You haven't mentally figured out the game.
[2:16:34] Speaker 3: You're a game to be consistent. Knowing when you can
[2:16:37] Speaker 3: fuck around and do that extra shit because you're on fire.
[2:16:40] Speaker 3: When you're not playing very well, you got to know
[2:16:43] Speaker 3: how to score.
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: And he don't know how to score when he's not
[2:16:47] Speaker 1: hitting these shots.
[2:16:48] Speaker 3: These, the bullshit, right? Like with James Harden. Look at
[2:16:53] Speaker 3: James Harden in Houston. When this motherfucker was doing this
[2:16:58] Speaker 3: right here. And this is, that's what I'm saying. To
[2:17:05] Speaker 3: give him some type of, like.
[2:17:07] Speaker 1: I enjoy when you read these Harden numbers, Gil.
[2:17:09] Speaker 3: The hope. A little bit. When... 36, 31, 29, 25, 28, 19, 25, 40, 22, 27, 34, 43, 32, 40, 54, 25, 23, 30, 29, 15, 35, 29, 50, 32, 47, 35, 35, 39, 41, 45.
[2:17:15] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:17:15] Speaker 3: I got a question. But you see, there's only been.
[2:17:18] Speaker 1: Two bad games.
[2:17:18] Speaker 3: Now, all that other stuff, there were some bad games
[2:17:21] Speaker 3: in there, but he made it up.
[2:17:43] Speaker 1: Free throw line.
[2:17:46] Speaker 3: Like, he figured out.
[2:17:48] Speaker 1: How to still put the ball in the basket. You
[2:17:50] Speaker 1: know what was at the end of all them things
[2:17:51] Speaker 1: that you were saying with the Houston Rockets then? They
[2:17:55] Speaker 1: had a motherfucking W at the end of them motherfuckers.
[2:17:58] Speaker 1: Not something more. It was more, I guarantee. It was
[2:18:02] Speaker 1: more than six.
[2:18:03] Speaker 3: More than six.
[2:18:04] Speaker 1: Could have been seven. But don't you think there was some.
[2:18:10] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying with the... When you're talking about
[2:18:14] Speaker 3: the difference between an all-star... and a regular-ass player that's like, damn, he's,
[2:18:20] Speaker 3: what's going on? It's those 15, like, think about, I
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: named 15 and 38. I just named out 38 games,
[2:18:27] Speaker 3: and James Harden only had two under 20.
[2:18:29] Speaker 1: Those are the... If James Harden made that statement with
[2:18:32] Speaker 1: those numbers that you just said, my train of thought
[2:18:36] Speaker 1: and my words coming out of my mouth are different.
[2:18:39] Speaker 3: Yeah. But.
[2:18:40] Speaker 4: Because he has the capability of being.
[2:18:44] Speaker 1: So far, no. No?
[2:18:46] Speaker 3: No.
[2:18:47] Speaker 1: Jordan Poole.
[2:18:47] Speaker 3: He has the creativity to be an all-star.
[2:18:50] Speaker 1: He has the creativity to be one.
[2:18:52] Speaker 3: He plays so... He has, like....
[2:18:57] Speaker 1: For one, you got to get voted in for one. No,
[2:18:59] Speaker 1: I'm not even voted in. For two, coaches have to
[2:19:03] Speaker 1: agree to put you in that motherfucker.
[2:19:05] Speaker 3: No, I'm talking even if your team turns around and
[2:19:07] Speaker 3: you're winning games, the game has to be stable.
[2:19:11] Speaker 1: And they got to pick you still. His game is
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: not stable right now. And they still have to pick him.
[2:19:15] Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I'm not saying... I'm just saying if there's one... Like,
[2:19:18] Speaker 3: his game has to be stable.
[2:19:19] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you.
[2:19:20] Speaker 3: You're 23 and 15. That's not All-Star.
[2:19:24] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. Yes, but they still have to
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: pick it. They still gotta like you.
[2:19:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be 48 and 3. Like, your bad
[2:19:33] Speaker 3: games gotta be rarity.
[2:19:36] Speaker 2: So, when it comes to Jordan Poole being an All-Star...
[2:19:39] Speaker 2: Stop the cap. We also asked the chat, is Jordan
[2:19:42] Speaker 2: Poole an All-Star? 11% said facts. 34% said cap, and 55% said.
[2:19:50] Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here, boy. That was the
[2:19:52] Speaker 1: other option we had.
[2:19:54] Speaker 3: Like Shea right now. Shea's played how many games of this?
[2:19:58] Speaker 3: Shea's played 44 games. He's only had one game under
[2:20:02] Speaker 3: 20 points. That That's all NBA.
[2:20:08] Speaker 1: You give me that, you give me that, Joe Poole,
[2:20:10] Speaker 1: I'll shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? But,
[2:20:12] Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Just so when people... Just motivation.
[2:20:14] Speaker 1: We motivate here on Gilderland. We do motivate.
[2:20:16] Speaker 3: They must figure out why they don't, why they don't
[2:20:19] Speaker 3: get certain things. You gotta, you can't think about your highs.
[2:20:23] Speaker 3: You gotta think about how low do you get. You
[2:20:25] Speaker 3: can't spike up and down. You gotta be consistent across
[2:20:28] Speaker 3: the board. So let's move on to our last topic.
[2:20:31] Speaker 3: You made the all-star team average of 15. Yeah? Yeah.
[2:20:34] Speaker 1: Yeah? It was 17 to 14.
[2:20:36] Speaker 3: There's a lot of W's, right?
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: There's a lot of W's. But the thing is, I
[2:20:42] Speaker 1: made the motherfucker.
[2:20:44] Speaker 3: Yes. So, Kyrie Irving in his 14th NBA season.
[2:20:49] Speaker 1: He talking like he was an all-star, actually. So let's
[2:20:51] Speaker 1: shift it over to Kyrie.
[2:20:52] Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving in his 14th NBA season, but his experience
[2:20:55] Speaker 2: has people thinking he's older than he really is.
[2:20:58] Speaker 1: He's just 32 years old right now.
[2:20:59] Speaker 2: So back in November, when he was on a stream
[2:21:01] Speaker 2: with Kai Sennett, saying that he kept calling Kyrie Unk,
[2:21:04] Speaker 2: which Kyrie didn't like. Apparently his Mavs teammates have picked
[2:21:08] Speaker 2: it up as well, calling Kyrie by Unk. Kyrie recently said,
[2:21:12] Speaker 2: being called Unk at 32 is crazy. So Kyrie says
[2:21:16] Speaker 2: being called Unk at 32 is crazy.
[2:21:19] Speaker 1: Facts or cats? That's facts, bro.
[2:21:21] Speaker 3: He's still young, bro.
[2:21:21] Speaker 1: Not in the black community. Unk at 32 is nuts.
[2:21:24] Speaker 3: At 32?
[2:21:24] Speaker 1: That's still young. I mean, still, I'm 35. Calling me
[2:21:28] Speaker 1: Unk is crazy. Come on, I ain't the Unk. Well,
[2:21:31] Speaker 1: I'm older than you, Brandon, so.
[2:21:32] Speaker 3: Unc is 40. Unc is 40.
[2:21:35] Speaker 4: You got to get.
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: Some gray hair. Not to young people. Yeah, it's the age.
[2:21:41] Speaker 3: Like 32, what is that?
[2:21:43] Speaker 1: What is right before unc?
[2:21:45] Speaker 3: Big bro? Big bro. Yeah, you're a big bro. The
[2:21:48] Speaker 3: big bro uncover. What's up, big bro? 30 is like
[2:21:50] Speaker 3: big bro. 30 is like, yeah, 30 to like 29
[2:21:52] Speaker 3: to 30, 38?
[2:21:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got OG, it's 40. I get
[2:22:01] Speaker 1: the damn OG. Yeah, so wait.
[2:22:03] Speaker 3: Oh, no.
[2:22:03] Speaker 1: It's 49 or.
[2:22:05] Speaker 3: 40, OG. You get the damn, no.
[2:22:06] Speaker 1: You don't get OG. Damn, OG.
[2:22:08] Speaker 3: He's not OG yet. He's big bro. He's big bro. Yeah.
[2:22:12] Speaker 3: We're OG.
[2:22:13] Speaker 1: Big bro, unk, OG.
[2:22:14] Speaker 3: Unk. Huh?
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: Or is it unk, OG? It's OG, it's unk. No,
[2:22:18] Speaker 1: it's unk, then OG. OG is before unk.
[2:22:20] Speaker 3: No, because uncle Shay Shay never. Yeah, you OG.
[2:22:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you OG. I'm big bro. I think OG
[2:22:27] Speaker 1: is older than unk. That's OG.
[2:22:29] Speaker 3: I don't know if that's OG.
[2:22:31] Speaker 1: Over 45?
[2:22:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's OG.
[2:22:32] Speaker 1: I think that's... And then 50s be like, damn, OG?
[2:22:35] Speaker 3: Damn, I think that's.
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: OG before Unc. Unc is like Snoop.
[2:22:39] Speaker 3: Think about it, Snoop is... Unc is in the 50s.
[2:22:41] Speaker 3: Unc is Snoop now. Unc is Shannon, Snoop.
[2:22:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're OG. Absolutely, we're OG. Snoop's not OG, Snoop
[2:22:46] Speaker 1: is Unc. Yeah, Unc OG.
[2:22:48] Speaker 3: Uncle Snoop.
[2:22:49] Speaker 1: But Kyrie also played the character.
[2:22:51] Speaker 3: Snoop Unc OG. Uncle Drew.
[2:22:52] Speaker 1: When you get old, nigga. When did that one come in?
[2:22:56] Speaker 3: Unc is 30.
[2:22:57] Speaker 1: I mean, to younger people, we are old. I'm just
[2:23:00] Speaker 1: being real. Kids I coach. Nah, Colin Kyrie.
[2:23:03] Speaker 3: Colin Kyrie.
[2:23:05] Speaker 1: Unc at 32 is nuts. Call him sir. Oh, Jeff
[2:23:09] Speaker 1: Teague said it, right?
[2:23:10] Speaker 3: Mr. Mr.
[2:23:11] Speaker 1: No, it was Lou.
[2:23:13] Speaker 3: I get Mr. now. Told a story. Mr.
[2:23:16] Speaker 1: Williams. I feel like Mr. is above OG.
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: Mr. Mr.
[2:23:21] Speaker 1: That's for old heads. What's up, mister?
[2:23:24] Speaker 3: Sir.
[2:23:25] Speaker 1: But sir is, like, for me, like, I got sir,
[2:23:28] Speaker 1: and when older, like, sir and ma'am just comes out.
[2:23:31] Speaker 1: For me, it could be down south. Yeah. You can
[2:23:34] Speaker 1: be younger than me.
[2:23:36] Speaker 3: And just.
[2:23:38] Speaker 1: It's gonna actually naturally come out for me. Like, if
[2:23:41] Speaker 1: it's a female, you ask me something, yes, ma'am, no, sir.
[2:23:44] Speaker 3: Okay, somebody wrote it.
[2:23:46] Speaker 1: So, cousin, nephew is up to 25. Big bro up
[2:23:50] Speaker 1: to 40.
[2:23:52] Speaker 3: Unk up to 59 and then OG 60.
[2:23:54] Speaker 1: See, OG is older.
[2:23:56] Speaker 3: Old heads.
[2:23:57] Speaker 1: So I'm big bro.
[2:23:58] Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
[2:23:59] Speaker 1: You're in big bro era?
[2:24:01] Speaker 3: And we're in big bro era, so yeah. I mean,
[2:24:03] Speaker 3: that's what I said.
[2:24:04] Speaker 1: He's still in big bro era.
[2:24:05] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he's not Unk yet? No, he's
[2:24:08] Speaker 3: big bro.
[2:24:09] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[2:24:11] Speaker 3: Listen, he got called big bro. He got called Unk
[2:24:14] Speaker 3: from Kai. Imagine trying to holler at a girl and
[2:24:17] Speaker 3: she call you uncle. You'd be like, oh. Oh, yeah.
[2:24:22] Speaker 1: I was just about.
[2:24:23] Speaker 3: To hit your cash app.
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: Oh, damn.
[2:24:27] Speaker 2: I remember we were in summer league. I think our
[2:24:29] Speaker 2: first season. Uncle's still going to do it.
[2:24:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just don't want to be called uncle.
[2:24:34] Speaker 3: I'm trying to holler.
[2:24:36] Speaker 1: Fuck.
[2:24:36] Speaker 3: We were at summer league a couple years ago.
[2:24:39] Speaker 1: Win Lobby.
[2:24:41] Speaker 2: I see Jason Tatum surrounded by about 30, 40 young heads,
[2:24:44] Speaker 2: and they all calling him big bro. And I'm like,
[2:24:46] Speaker 2: ain't Tatum like 24 years old right now?
[2:24:48] Speaker 1: But that's what the state of the league was.
[2:24:50] Speaker 3: What we doing tonight, big bro?
[2:24:52] Speaker 1: He's still youngin'. I thought Jason Tatum was 27. So
[2:24:56] Speaker 1: Melo told me, Melo said, I'm going to be 30.
[2:24:58] Speaker 1: You still going to be calling me youngin'. I said,
[2:25:00] Speaker 1: you my youngin', right? When I got to Denver, you
[2:25:02] Speaker 1: were 19, bruh. Like, you gon' always be my youngin' forever. Yeah,
[2:25:08] Speaker 1: that's forever.
[2:25:09] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:25:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cold. I don't call him nothing. That's cold.
[2:25:12] Speaker 1: What's good, youngin'? Like, you gon' always be that to me. Because,
[2:25:16] Speaker 1: like I said, you were a kid when I got there.
[2:25:18] Speaker 1: Everybody got their, like, two or three youngins.
[2:25:20] Speaker 4: Like, they remember, like, they always, hey, man, that's my youngin' forever.
[2:25:22] Speaker 3: It don't matter. Yeah.
[2:25:24] Speaker 1: Senior citizens at home.
[2:25:25] Speaker 3: Nick's still my rook. Fuck, what'd he say? Yes.
[2:25:28] Speaker 1: You can tell.
[2:25:30] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[2:25:30] Speaker 1: You can tell, though. You can tell.
[2:25:33] Speaker 3: You can tell. I ain't heard a cut. Hey, I
[2:25:35] Speaker 3: hear Andre Blunt.
[2:25:36] Speaker 1: What up, Rook?
[2:25:36] Speaker 3: How you doing out there, man? No, no, G.
[2:25:42] Speaker 2: You learn something new every day on Gil's Arena presented
[2:25:44] Speaker 2: by Underdog. So when it comes to Kyrie saying calling
[2:25:47] Speaker 2: someone unk at 32 is crazy.
[2:25:50] Speaker 3: Facts.
[2:25:51] Speaker 2: We asked the chat. Kyrie is unk. 58% said facts. 42%
[2:25:55] Speaker 2: said cats. We got a lot of young heads in
[2:25:58] Speaker 2: the chat. We appreciate y'all.
[2:25:59] Speaker 3: You should have broken down Big Bro, Unc. Young OG.
[2:26:06] Speaker 1: Young OG.
[2:26:07] Speaker 3: Young OG.
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: What's up, Young OG? That's just a dude that's like.
[2:26:10] Speaker 3: anywhere from 35 to about 45 that just, he look
[2:26:15] Speaker 3: like he been there before.
[2:26:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim Jones.
[2:26:17] Speaker 3: Jim Jones and Fab, yeah.
[2:26:19] Speaker 1: Fab, Fab name and shit, young OG.
[2:26:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean? Fab, young OG. Like
[2:26:23] Speaker 3: the way Kendrick rap, he get OG, hey OG. He's
[2:26:26] Speaker 3: on OG now? He could be, he could be considered
[2:26:28] Speaker 3: young OG.
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: And the album is. Yeah, he could be considered young OG.
[2:26:32] Speaker 3: Wait.
[2:26:33] Speaker 1: Time out before we move on.
[2:26:34] Speaker 3: Young OG.
[2:26:35] Speaker 1: We got breaking news here in the arena. You listen
[2:26:41] Speaker 1: to that new Kendrick? No, I just listen to it.
[2:26:43] Speaker 1: I've critiqued it. You didn't play that motherfucker. You didn't
[2:26:46] Speaker 1: play that bitch.
[2:26:47] Speaker 3: I haven't got past her.
[2:26:49] Speaker 1: When I want to listen to something, I'm like three, four, five,
[2:26:54] Speaker 1: six days straight of listening to nothing else. I won't deviate.
[2:26:59] Speaker 1: I will listen to the same Oh, repeat, repeat. Welcome home.
[2:27:05] Speaker 1: Because I'm a lyrical guy, I need to hear what
[2:27:07] Speaker 1: you're saying. So I got to be in the car
[2:27:11] Speaker 1: at a certain volume, and I'm getting that. You've got
[2:27:14] Speaker 1: to be charged. Them acoustics from that Mercedes is, you know,
[2:27:19] Speaker 1: got that good sound system, right?
[2:27:24] Speaker 3: But yeah, absolutely.
[2:27:25] Speaker 1: Man, welcome back.
[2:27:27] Speaker 3: I'm with it. You like it? No, I ain't never
[2:27:30] Speaker 3: said he couldn't. I'm still stuck on the only three songs.
[2:27:33] Speaker 3: You ain't got past that?
[2:27:35] Speaker 1: No, I haven't got past that. The last album, Mr. Morales.
[2:27:37] Speaker 3: I'm with that. The Super Bowl podcast, Mr.
[2:27:39] Speaker 1: Morales.
[2:27:40] Speaker 3: You need to hear. I'm on Squabble Up, TV Off, Peek-A-Boo.
[2:27:45] Speaker 3: Those are the only three songs I heard on the album.
[2:27:48] Speaker 3: It's going to take another six, I'm still, listen, I'm
[2:27:50] Speaker 3: going to tell you. You have your playlist. Every morning,
[2:27:52] Speaker 3: four o'clock, I start off.
[2:27:58] Speaker 1: Like that.
[2:27:59] Speaker 3: Yeah. Euphoria, first-person shooter mode. Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
[2:28:06] Speaker 3: That's what I most listen to. You listen to three people.
[2:28:09] Speaker 3: I go to first-person shooter mode. I start off as
[2:28:12] Speaker 3: soon as I get in the car. Like that, push-ups, euphoria,
[2:28:16] Speaker 3: family matters, not like us, squabble up, TV off, peek-a-boo,
[2:28:20] Speaker 3: don't kill my vibe, fucking problem, poetic justice, collard greens.
[2:28:29] Speaker 3: Spin About You, Rich Flex, On B.S., Way Too Wavy,
[2:28:37] Speaker 3: Broke Boys.
[2:28:38] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:28:39] Speaker 3: And trust me, I'm going to get all of those
[2:28:42] Speaker 3: songs in before I get back home.
[2:28:45] Speaker 1: I respect it. You skipping through them?
[2:28:48] Speaker 3: Huh? You skipping through them? Hell yeah.
[2:28:51] Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
[2:28:52] Speaker 4: Because he is not letting that shit rock.
[2:28:54] Speaker 3: Not at all.
[2:28:54] Speaker 1: He ain't one of them.
[2:28:55] Speaker 4: He's not just doing that and turning away.
[2:28:58] Speaker 1: So I'm listening to Kendrick all the way through for
[2:29:01] Speaker 1: sure now. Well, just as of late. Big X the plug. Yeah,
[2:29:10] Speaker 1: I'm only a two, three person. Yeah, Big X the plug.
[2:29:13] Speaker 1: I ain't fine. You got to give Big X, you
[2:29:15] Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Big X from Dallas, man.
[2:29:17] Speaker 3: He going to have to get in the beef.
[2:29:19] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:29:21] Speaker 3: Get on Gil's radar. And Paul Wall got a new
[2:29:24] Speaker 3: album out, man. Shout out to the People's Chair, Paul Wall.
[2:29:27] Speaker 1: Paul Wall got a new album out. Paul Wall can rap, dog.
[2:29:32] Speaker 1: The People's Chair.
[2:29:33] Speaker 3: I like beefs. No, no, what I mean is I
[2:29:37] Speaker 3: like when Jaru and 50 was going at it, or
[2:29:40] Speaker 3: Jaru and.
[2:29:43] Speaker 1: Rick Ross. That's my playlist.
[2:29:45] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:29:45] Speaker 1: I do the beef playlist, right? So you want to see.
[2:29:49] Speaker 3: Like, Jay, like, it'd be like, so I'll just take
[2:29:51] Speaker 3: two people, like, when Kanye and, you know, 50 was going, like,
[2:29:55] Speaker 3: they did a little fake beef. I'm just going through
[2:29:57] Speaker 3: and just back and forth, back and forth.
[2:29:59] Speaker 1: Like, that's how, that's the type of music.
[2:30:01] Speaker 3: Who's the best beef playlist wise?
[2:30:04] Speaker 1: It gotta be them.
[2:30:04] Speaker 3: Who got the best beef playlist wise? It would have
[2:30:07] Speaker 3: been 50 Kanye, um, Because, you know, all the songs
[2:30:13] Speaker 3: that they... I get the ride. Even though they don't
[2:30:16] Speaker 3: have beef songs, just that music.
[2:30:18] Speaker 1: I know what you're saying.
[2:30:20] Speaker 3: Because I pretend I'm both up and I'm trying to
[2:30:23] Speaker 3: figure out who won. Like, it's some weird shit that
[2:30:28] Speaker 3: just gets me through the day. That shit started when
[2:30:31] Speaker 3: I first retired.
[2:30:32] Speaker 1: That's where it came from.
[2:30:33] Speaker 3: And when I retired and I got to drive from
[2:30:34] Speaker 3: here all the way downtown, downtown back, that's a two-hour ride.
[2:30:39] Speaker 1: So, you know what I mean?
[2:30:40] Speaker 4: So I'm making some The best beef got to be
[2:30:43] Speaker 4: the bad boys in death row.
[2:30:45] Speaker 1: If we're going music for music.
[2:30:48] Speaker 3: It's not necessarily beef. It's just if they send somebody
[2:30:51] Speaker 3: to church, I just... I'll do DMX at 50 Cent. Huh? Yeah.
[2:30:56] Speaker 3: But I just think the music.
[2:30:57] Speaker 1: They couldn't. They didn't know what we were doing over here. Music-wise?
[2:31:02] Speaker 1: I was heavy in that East Coast beef, man.
[2:31:04] Speaker 3: Oh, you was?
[2:31:04] Speaker 1: Man, listen, dawg. When Kiss and them was going.
[2:31:09] Speaker 3: With 50... Listen, dawg. That was a good old day.
[2:31:12] Speaker 1: Smack DVD.
[2:31:13] Speaker 3: Dog, hey, man.
[2:31:14] Speaker 1: Going up to the radio. Dog, killing it. So, Kenya.
[2:31:18] Speaker 1: What's up? The chat.
[2:31:20] Speaker 2: Proud to hear that you've listened to GNX by Kendrick Lamar.
[2:31:23] Speaker 2: Have ordained you as an official Los Angelino. We have
[2:31:25] Speaker 2: your blue bandana coming. Fresh pair of chucks. All right, cuz.
[2:31:30] Speaker 3: Hey, look.
[2:31:31] Speaker 1: Hey, but the real shit is I have one pair
[2:31:35] Speaker 1: of chucks in my collection. Low tops.
[2:31:37] Speaker 3: What color are they?
[2:31:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:31:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:31:40] Speaker 1: What color?
[2:31:41] Speaker 3: Crip blue.
[2:31:42] Speaker 1: Crip blue. Navy blue.
[2:31:44] Speaker 3: Crip blue.
[2:31:45] Speaker 1: No, they definitely blue. I got one pair. Yeah, I
[2:31:48] Speaker 1: got a pair of Chucks in my collection.
[2:31:50] Speaker 3: One pair. Yes.
[2:31:51] Speaker 1: And with that, we will move on to Mostly Fans. Damn,
[2:31:55] Speaker 1: it's too tan. Presented by Underdog.
[2:31:57] Speaker 2: Download the Underdog at this promo code, Gil. Get up
[2:32:00] Speaker 2: to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. So
[2:32:03] Speaker 2: we announced earlier that the whole cast is signed extensions
[2:32:06] Speaker 2: with Underdog. Gil's Arena will keep coming to you, but
[2:32:09] Speaker 2: They also said in the article that we're coming for
[2:32:11] Speaker 2: the Square Media, but we're in our own lane. We're
[2:32:14] Speaker 2: not worried about y'all. Y'all can't do what we do.
[2:32:15] Speaker 2: I know we see y'all trying. Shout out to all
[2:32:18] Speaker 2: the fans that have supported us in this journey. If
[2:32:22] Speaker 2: you want to see dinosaurs, go to Jurassic Park.
[2:32:25] Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it moving. Or turn on cable TV.
[2:32:30] Speaker 1: Sit there and watch commercials. No, I'm just being honest.
[2:32:34] Speaker 3: They say TV ratings is down because I guess they
[2:32:36] Speaker 3: haven't figured out where it moved. Ditch it up.
[2:32:40] Speaker 1: Over here.
[2:32:40] Speaker 3: These motherfuckers. I'm going to just be honest.
[2:32:44] Speaker 1: Just the concept of views, y'all. Views is down.
[2:32:48] Speaker 3: Just like Toys R Us thought people was, they wasn't
[2:32:51] Speaker 3: buying toys. Let them know, Gil. We're at 40% of
[2:32:53] Speaker 3: the toys. They wasn't walking into Toys R.
[2:32:55] Speaker 1: Us no more.
[2:32:56] Speaker 3: They was buying them shits online.
[2:32:58] Speaker 1: We're at 40% of the toys at.
[2:33:00] Speaker 3: On Amazon. Same thing with views. Nobody might be watching cable,
[2:33:05] Speaker 3: but goddammit, they consuming it somewhere else. Keep up.
[2:33:09] Speaker 1: Walked into your trap. I'm just angry. Because we over here.
[2:33:14] Speaker 3: We don't play with toys no more.
[2:33:15] Speaker 1: We watch other kids play with toys.
[2:33:18] Speaker 3: But somebody's playing with toys, I can tell you that.
[2:33:20] Speaker 2: So, question today from underdog user Underdog Nomad. If you
[2:33:25] Speaker 2: could make a dream finals matchup we never got to see,
[2:33:29] Speaker 2: what would it be? If you could make a dream
[2:33:30] Speaker 2: finals matchup we never got to see, what would it be?
[2:33:33] Speaker 3: Say it again.
[2:33:34] Speaker 2: If you could make a dream finals matchup that we
[2:33:36] Speaker 2: never got to see, what would it be?
[2:33:39] Speaker 3: Dream.
[2:33:40] Speaker 1: Oh, ooh, okay.
[2:33:41] Speaker 2: Dream finals matchup. So I can just pick any matchups?
[2:33:43] Speaker 2: A dream finals matchup we never got to see.
[2:33:46] Speaker 1: What would it be? Do they have to be playing
[2:33:51] Speaker 1: in the same era? Gil, this is your show. You
[2:33:54] Speaker 1: cut the checks.
[2:33:55] Speaker 3: I don't say that.
[2:33:56] Speaker 1: I don't say that. You said same era?
[2:33:58] Speaker 3: I can't dream for you. At 2014 Cavs. That would
[2:34:01] Speaker 3: have been a good-ass matchup. But they got to be
[2:34:03] Speaker 3: in the.
[2:34:04] Speaker 1: Same time frame. 14 Cavs or 15?
[2:34:09] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[2:34:10] Speaker 1: No, Miami.
[2:34:11] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[2:34:11] Speaker 1: The Heat.
[2:34:12] Speaker 3: The Heat-Miami versus that Laker back-to-back. The two motherfuckers go
[2:34:15] Speaker 3: at it.
[2:34:16] Speaker 1: But, okay. I'll play by the rules.
[2:34:19] Speaker 3: It is your dream.
[2:34:20] Speaker 1: You cut the check.
[2:34:22] Speaker 3: I'll say... Players-teams? Players-or-teams? Josiah.
[2:34:30] Speaker 1: Players-or-teams? Or is it just.
[2:34:32] Speaker 3: Teams. Teams?
[2:34:35] Speaker 2: If you could make a Dream Finals matchup we never
[2:34:37] Speaker 2: got to see, what would it be?
[2:34:39] Speaker 1: You guys can do what you want. Okay, I'm just asking.
[2:34:41] Speaker 1: It don't matter what yours. But, so let's just stick with,
[2:34:46] Speaker 1: I would love to have seen Colby and Braun playing
[2:34:48] Speaker 1: the finals together.
[2:34:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:34:49] Speaker 1: Colby and Braun? Yeah.
[2:34:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:34:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:34:56] Speaker 3: That was realistically possible in 09. Unfortunately, Cavs lost in
[2:34:59] Speaker 3: the conference finals. Yeah.
[2:35:02] Speaker 1: By a rigged system. And then when, you know, Yeah.
[2:35:12] Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, back in some early 2000s. Or
[2:35:17] Speaker 1: Mike not retiring, them meeting, matching up with Houston, you know,
[2:35:20] Speaker 1: Akeem them. For the four?
[2:35:25] Speaker 3: Because....
[2:35:27] Speaker 1: Like, 94, they was coming off three-peat, the mic not
[2:35:31] Speaker 1: stepping away.
[2:35:32] Speaker 3: We talked to Vernon Maxwell. He said the Rocks would
[2:35:34] Speaker 3: have no issue. That's what he said. I would have
[2:35:37] Speaker 3: said the same shit, too. Okay.
[2:35:38] Speaker 1: But realistically, the motherfucker just won. Y'all said he won
[2:35:40] Speaker 1: his money for Vincent Askew. Y'all had the same team.
[2:35:44] Speaker 1: Akeem was in Houston and saved them three years before that,
[2:35:47] Speaker 1: God damn it. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.
[2:35:50] Speaker 1: I heard the words that came out of Vernon's mouth, yes,
[2:35:53] Speaker 1: but realistically, y'all had y'all opportunity. That motherfucker just won
[2:35:56] Speaker 1: three straight.
[2:35:59] Speaker 3: I would like to see the Bulls' first championship against
[2:36:04] Speaker 3: the Detroit Piston.
[2:36:10] Speaker 1: The team that won the championship.
[2:36:13] Speaker 3: I want to see... Because it's easy to... Like, the
[2:36:18] Speaker 3: window was missed, right? Where the team that was beating
[2:36:22] Speaker 3: on you, that had you going in the weight room...
[2:36:27] Speaker 3: by the time you got to show your muscles, they
[2:36:30] Speaker 3: wasn't them anymore. Expansion draft, I believe. He kind of
[2:36:32] Speaker 3: fucked up the lineup, so I would have loved to
[2:36:34] Speaker 3: see when y'all got strong and say, yo, we ready
[2:36:37] Speaker 3: to fight, to see if y'all was actually ready to fight.
[2:36:41] Speaker 3: They were done. I think we've seen some of the best,
[2:36:49] Speaker 3: besides Kobe and Braun, two titans playing. Magic and Bird,
[2:36:55] Speaker 3: that was perfect for the 80s, because they were both,
[2:36:59] Speaker 3: they were all great at the same time, battling. Um...
[2:37:04] Speaker 3: For the most part, most of ours was Western Conference
[2:37:07] Speaker 3: Finals games, right, and Eastern Conference Finals games, where the
[2:37:11] Speaker 3: real titans was really playing against each other. Um.
[2:37:17] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:37:18] Speaker 3: Right? I mean, unless we see a Philadelphia versus Denver
[2:37:25] Speaker 3: in the finals, I mean, people will get excited about
[2:37:28] Speaker 3: that because you got two MVPs at the same position going.
[2:37:34] Speaker 1: But... Skechers versus 361.
[2:37:36] Speaker 3: It's rare where you get greatness at the same... in
[2:37:45] Speaker 3: the same position that can control a game and you
[2:37:47] Speaker 3: got to stop each other. That's that's rare. Usually it's
[2:37:49] Speaker 3: like a big and a small, like, you know what
[2:37:51] Speaker 3: I mean? So, as I said, the 80s, Bird versus Magic,
[2:37:54] Speaker 3: that was perfect, right? It probably don't, it probably don't
[2:37:59] Speaker 3: get no better than something like that.
[2:38:01] Speaker 4: How do you feel about KD saying that the 2017
[2:38:03] Speaker 4: was the best finals ever?
[2:38:05] Speaker 1: Like, at the highest competition?
[2:38:07] Speaker 3: No, because when he joined them, it was a mismatch, right?
[2:38:12] Speaker 3: He offset the greatness in the matchup, right? It was like,
[2:38:19] Speaker 3: It was Braun versus the three of them, right, at
[2:38:22] Speaker 3: the time. It was like this little back and forth.
[2:38:27] Speaker 1: When Katie joined, yeah, we, I mean, no one was.
[2:38:32] Speaker 3: It tilted the scale. Yeah, no, it just... I didn't
[2:38:35] Speaker 3: know we was bringing rockets. Like, I know you have
[2:38:39] Speaker 3: a rocket over here, but.
[2:38:40] Speaker 1: I didn't know y'all was bringing your own.
[2:38:43] Speaker 3: It was one of those things, so... I wish they
[2:38:47] Speaker 3: would have got, I mean, if they would have got,
[2:38:49] Speaker 3: how old was D-Wade when, ah, yeah.
[2:38:56] Speaker 1: They just miss it. Yeah, I just, they did with
[2:38:57] Speaker 1: the Kobe, like that.
[2:38:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, Kobe Braun.
[2:38:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe Braun.
[2:39:00] Speaker 2: All right, well, on that note, appreciate all y'all. Another
[2:39:04] Speaker 2: productive show here in the arena. Thanks, everybody, for pulling up.
[2:39:07] Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody in the chat.
[2:39:09] Speaker 3: Huh?
[2:39:10] Speaker 1: Football.
[2:39:11] Speaker 3: Football.
[2:39:12] Speaker 1: Because we're in the fucking, come on.
[2:39:14] Speaker 3: Who? Who? What two teams that would have been a
[2:39:22] Speaker 3: great Super Bowl that didn't meet up in history? I
[2:39:26] Speaker 3: don't know.
[2:39:32] Speaker 1: That's for Kenyon Martin.
[2:39:38] Speaker 3: Fair. Ooh.
[2:39:40] Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Kenyon. Okay.
[2:39:43] Speaker 3: I wish.
[2:39:45] Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was in the NFC, or Tom Brady was
[2:39:47] Speaker 1: in the NFC. During there, because I think Peyton would
[2:39:57] Speaker 1: have had more than one, had he been on the
[2:39:59] Speaker 1: other side. They just had, Peyton was in the AFC
[2:40:02] Speaker 1: all them years. So Tom got seven. Peyton, so- Peyton
[2:40:07] Speaker 1: did get a second one. He did, but- I'm not
[2:40:10] Speaker 1: gonna say Peyton. He's still in the AFC. Packers versus
[2:40:16] Speaker 1: Patriots with Ben. He said Aaron Rodgers, Patriots.
[2:40:20] Speaker 2: And before we go, Gil, I saw that Elijah was
[2:40:22] Speaker 2: at the USC-UCLA game last night with Swaggy P.
[2:40:25] Speaker 3: Wait, what?
[2:40:26] Speaker 1: Got to see them get their asses busted.
[2:40:28] Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, because he was on his recruit trip.
[2:40:32] Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there, when the fuck do y'all recruit
[2:40:34] Speaker 3: trip during the weekend?
[2:40:35] Speaker 1: On a Monday.
[2:40:38] Speaker 3: Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, this shit was on a fucking Sunday, Monday. Like, okay,
[2:40:42] Speaker 3: all right.
[2:40:42] Speaker 2: But got to see SC get their asses smacked by
[2:40:44] Speaker 2: UCLA GoPro. And shout out Mick Cronin and the rest
[2:40:45] Speaker 2: of the crew. Shout out to everybody on this couch.
[2:40:48] Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody in the chat for pulling up,
[2:40:49] Speaker 2: supporting this show. This has been another episode of Gale's
[2:40:52] Speaker 2: Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:40:53] Speaker 1: We will see y'all tomorrow.
[2:40:56] Speaker 3: He said, all right, that's it.

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