# Zion Williamson's Season Ending Injury ROCKS Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 1 Apr 2025, 2 h 30 min.

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Zion Williamson's Season Ending Injury ROCKS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena react to the New Orleans Pelicans shutting down Zion for the remainder of the 2025 NBA Season and debate if this shocking move is a reason to be concerned over Zion's long term future or simply the Pelicans tanking for a better draft pick. Next, they react to Anthony Davis' first comments surrounding his historic trade for Luka Doncic where the Dallas Mavericks' Big Man stated he felt betrayed by LeBron James & The Los Angeles Lakers and opened up on his experience of being involved with the move that shocked the sports world. The Gil's Arena Crew then reacts to the Lakers' big win over the Houston Rockets and play a game of for real or fugazi surrounding the 2nd best team in the NBA's Western Conference, debating if the Rockets should be on upset alert heading into the NBA Playoffs. Finally, with March Madness coming to a close and the Final Four quickly approaching Gil's Arena takes a look at the college hoops scene by reacting to the shocking news that #2 WNBA prospect Olivia Miles is passing up on the WNBA draft to spend another year in college and break down the latest comparisons for Cooper Flagg where the Duke Blue Devils' superstar was called the next version of Kevin Love. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Nick Young, & Lexie Brown Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Try VIIA! https://viia.co/GIL and use code GIL! USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:02:01 Show Start 0:10:30 Zion Williamson SHUT DOWN For The Season 0:19:49 Should The Pelicans Keep Building Around Zion 0:27:40 Kenyon's Unfiltered Thoughts On The Pistons-Wolves Fight 0:52:06 NIL Has Changed March Madness 1:05:29 Olivia Miles Stays In School Over The WNBA 1:19:53 Are The Rockets Legit Contenders? 1:46:06 Mavs Fans Will Never Get Over The Luka Trade 1:53:10 Anthony Davis Comments On The Trade 2:26:04 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog World! As
[0:07] Speaker 1: you can see, couch a little light today. We had
[0:10] Speaker 1: to ship Gil off to New York. His son Elijah
[0:12] Speaker 1: playing in the McDonald's All-American game today.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Shout out Elijah.
[0:16] Speaker 1: Shout out to the entire Arena family. Was gonna do
[0:20] Speaker 1: a stupid April Fool's joke, but you know, we all
[0:22] Speaker 1: too old for that. Can you say, you don't play
[0:23] Speaker 1: with those April Fool's jokes?
[0:24] Speaker 2: I do, just don't touch me or do nothing that
[0:28] Speaker 2: I spend my money on, that's all. Real simple. I
[0:31] Speaker 2: like jokes. I like to laugh. I'm a little nervous,
[0:34] Speaker 2: to tell you the truth.
[0:36] Speaker 3: Yeah. If Gil was here, I'd be more nervous, but
[0:38] Speaker 3: now that I know he's gone, I feel a little
[0:41] Speaker 3: more safer.
[0:42] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. How about the April Fools?
[0:44] Speaker 1: Yeah. You already know you're going to have some shenanigans planned.
[0:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
[0:49] Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo.
[0:52] Speaker 1: Woo Woo! We got it. NBA champion of the world,
[0:56] Speaker 1: Swaggy P. Nick Young almost fucked up and said, Gil,
[0:59] Speaker 1: I'm so programmed to do the intro. NBA champion of
[1:02] Speaker 1: the world, Swaggy P. Your USC women's squad unfortunately took
[1:07] Speaker 1: the L, so we got some things we'll address in
[1:10] Speaker 1: the coming days. Sad day. Shout out to you, Drew.
[1:14] Speaker 1: Keep getting better, but it's all good. UCLA in the
[1:16] Speaker 1: final four, though, representing the city well.
[1:18] Speaker 2: That's not a good thing, though. It's good for some.
[1:22] Speaker 1: Go Bruins.
[1:23] Speaker 2: Shout out to the Hawkeyes family.
[1:25] Speaker 1: On this side of the couch, we got WNBA champion
[1:27] Speaker 1: of the world, Lexi Brown, back with us. And making
[1:34] Speaker 1: his return to the arena, the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff,
[1:38] Speaker 1: former number one pick, Kenyon Martin, is.
[1:40] Speaker 2: Back here with us.
[1:45] Speaker 1: So Kenyon, we did our million subscriber show yesterday. We
[1:47] Speaker 1: were very sad that you couldn't be here with us,
[1:49] Speaker 1: but we got a present for you. We got the
[1:51] Speaker 1: plaque and some flowers.
[1:56] Speaker 2: Do not touch.
[1:57] Speaker 1: I want to make sure nobody touch your flowers.
[2:01] Speaker 2: I got to take a picture for real.
[2:04] Speaker 1: We got to, you know, make sure we give your flowers,
[2:06] Speaker 1: give your lunch.
[2:06] Speaker 3: Speech, speech.
[2:07] Speaker 1: You've been an essential part.
[2:08] Speaker 2: Of this show. Oh, yeah, and I sent the video in, y'all.
[2:12] Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, you had your
[2:14] Speaker 2: shirt off and shit. I was sitting outside. I was
[2:17] Speaker 2: at the pool. I was at the beach. I know
[2:19] Speaker 2: you was comfortable. At the beach, sitting in a hammock.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Sitting in a hammock, chilling, doing your thing.
[2:23] Speaker 3: Feet up.
[2:25] Speaker 2: Like I stated in the video, we do this shit
[2:28] Speaker 2: with our feet up in a hammock, man.
[2:30] Speaker 1: But just want you to know how much we appreciate you.
[2:32] Speaker 1: That's a little flex. How much of an integral part
[2:34] Speaker 1: you've been to the success of this show. Sad you
[2:36] Speaker 1: couldn't be here yesterday with us. Know you're with the family, though,
[2:38] Speaker 1: doing your spring break thing. So good to have you
[2:40] Speaker 1: back on the couch and back in the arena. For
[2:42] Speaker 1: all the fans out there, we still got two viewing
[2:44] Speaker 1: options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick
[2:47] Speaker 1: which one you want to watch. Just make sure you
[2:49] Speaker 1: support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[2:53] Speaker 1: The Pelicans officially shut down Zion Williamson after another injury-plagued season.
[2:59] Speaker 1: But should the Pels keep building around their 24-year-old two-time All-Star?
[3:03] Speaker 2: We will discuss.
[3:04] Speaker 1: CJ McCollum also got shut down as well. Talk about
[3:07] Speaker 1: his future. Thank you.
[3:09] Speaker 2: As well.
[3:09] Speaker 1: AD made some interesting comments about getting traded for Luka.
[3:14] Speaker 1: Does the former NBA champion have good reason to feel
[3:16] Speaker 1: betrayed by his former team and running mate?
[3:20] Speaker 2: Or so they say.
[3:22] Speaker 1: And the Lakers got a big win over the Rockets
[3:24] Speaker 1: to stay in the top four in the West. How
[3:26] Speaker 1: important will the Purple and Gold's bench be to their
[3:28] Speaker 1: success for the rest of the season? It was a
[3:31] Speaker 1: nasty game, first half. Bounce back made it somewhat entertaining,
[3:34] Speaker 1: but got the dub we needed. They got one more
[3:37] Speaker 1: meeting before the end of the season. So we'll see
[3:39] Speaker 1: how it all shapes out. But before we get into
[3:41] Speaker 1: all that, as always, this show is brought to you
[3:43] Speaker 1: by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app. Use promo code GILL.
[3:45] Speaker 1: You get up to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a
[3:48] Speaker 1: special pick-em. As for tonight, Kenyon, who is now back
[3:51] Speaker 1: on the couch to celebrate, 1 million subscribers on the
[3:54] Speaker 1: Gills Arena YouTube channel with us, has some picks up
[3:56] Speaker 1: in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take
[3:58] Speaker 1: a look, if we can, please. Giannis, higher, 44.5 points, rebounds,
[4:04] Speaker 1: and assists. Bucks at home taking on the Suns. Devin Booker, higher,
[4:08] Speaker 1: 7.5 assists. Suns are going to be without KD for
[4:13] Speaker 1: the near future. We'll see if D-Book can distribute that thing.
[4:16] Speaker 2: I can see that. You got to do a lot
[4:18] Speaker 2: of playmaking. You got to do a lot of playmaking now.
[4:22] Speaker 1: You got Trae Young, higher, 9.5 assists. Hawks taking on
[4:26] Speaker 1: the Blazers at home. Onyeka Okungwu, higher, 11.5 rebounds. And
[4:29] Speaker 1: Stephon Castle, lower, 28.5 points, rebounds and assists. Spurs taking
[4:36] Speaker 1: on the Magic at home tonight. How y'all feeling about
[4:40] Speaker 1: these picks?
[4:41] Speaker 3: I can see it. You know, I can see Devin
[4:43] Speaker 3: Booker getting double teamed, having to pass the ball. Trey
[4:48] Speaker 3: playing against Portland, you know. And Castle, they're going to
[4:54] Speaker 3: get blew out, so he probably don't reach it.
[4:57] Speaker 1: He can't get buckets in the blowout?
[4:59] Speaker 3: Probably get subbed out of the game.
[5:01] Speaker 2: Third quarter, don't play the fourth, so.
[5:04] Speaker 1: Lex, how you feeling about these? Pixie Kenya's partner pack
[5:06] Speaker 1: on the underdog app tonight.
[5:07] Speaker 4: Positivity. Good energy.
[5:09] Speaker 1: Love and positivity to start this April.
[5:12] Speaker 2: Oh, you missed it.
[5:12] Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like... She cussed yesterday. Huh?
[5:14] Speaker 3: She cussed yesterday.
[5:16] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let it go. Lexi did break her
[5:19] Speaker 1: shriek of no curse word. Somebody pissed you off yesterday, Lex?
[5:21] Speaker 2: Huh? Somebody pissed you off yesterday?
[5:22] Speaker 4: No, they asked me what I would do if someone
[5:24] Speaker 4: spit on me in a game.
[5:26] Speaker 1: Oh.
[5:27] Speaker 2: Because of the fight yesterday. Wasn't no damn fight. It
[5:30] Speaker 2: wasn't a cat fight.
[5:32] Speaker 4: I thought that was a real scuffle.
[5:34] Speaker 2: It's a scuffle, thank you. Thank you, that's exactly what
[5:38] Speaker 2: it was. That's a nice word. Instead of a cat fight, scuffle.
[5:42] Speaker 3: And then it led to the Rondo and Chris Paul
[5:44] Speaker 3: that spit.
[5:45] Speaker 4: So yeah, someone spit on you, what do you do?
[5:49] Speaker 2: I had somebody say he was gonna do that, and
[5:51] Speaker 2: I said, please do it and it be justified me
[5:54] Speaker 2: ripping your tongue out your mouth out here.
[5:56] Speaker 3: See how far he go ripping you. Who hear words
[5:59] Speaker 3: like that during a fight?
[6:01] Speaker 2: I'm going to rip your tongue out, brother.
[6:02] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[6:03] Speaker 2: He told me you're going to spit on him. This
[6:04] Speaker 2: is during the game.
[6:05] Speaker 4: I'm going to rip your tongue out.
[6:08] Speaker 1: What kind of little bitch said, I'm going to spit
[6:09] Speaker 1: on you?
[6:10] Speaker 2: He was in his, so teammates was fucking with him
[6:15] Speaker 2: saying they was going to trade him for me. Right?
[6:19] Speaker 2: We need him to get over the hump, this, that,
[6:21] Speaker 2: and the third, you, this, so they fucking with him.
[6:24] Speaker 2: So he fell away during the game, busting his ass
[6:26] Speaker 2: during the game.
[6:27] Speaker 4: I know, what the hell?
[6:30] Speaker 2: This is the NBA we played in. Like, this shit
[6:34] Speaker 2: they do? All this buddy-butt?
[6:36] Speaker 1: No.
[6:37] Speaker 2: Like, we knew you were sensitive in.
[6:38] Speaker 3: The locker room. Oh. Are you serious?
[6:44] Speaker 2: Like, you get, like, are you upset now? Like, really?
[6:47] Speaker 2: We just gonna keep adding on, too. Right? Because you
[6:51] Speaker 2: ain't gonna do nothing. To nobody. So.
[6:54] Speaker 1: And this player took his frustrations out on you because
[6:56] Speaker 1: of what he made you do.
[6:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. He thought, and I was like, I will.
[7:00] Speaker 1: And did you find that out later, what was the cause?
[7:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[7:05] Speaker 1: You know why he said that, right?
[7:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:07] Speaker 1: I was like, huh?
[7:08] Speaker 2: But then, yeah, no, they was fucking with me. So, yeah,
[7:13] Speaker 2: that's right to cuss. Absolutely not.
[7:16] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading
[7:18] Speaker 1: with your picks tonight, Kenya. 63% of the chat said
[7:22] Speaker 1: that they are riding with your picks. They have offered
[7:24] Speaker 1: you their chain. Appreciate you. Digitally, remotely. If you like
[7:28] Speaker 1: Kenya's picks and want to ride with them, head to
[7:30] Speaker 1: the Underdog app. Use promo code GIL. Get us $ 1, 000
[7:33] Speaker 1: of bonus cash plus a special pick-em.
[7:35] Speaker 2: Touch off guard, Nick. He was like, man. The B word, too.
[7:40] Speaker 1: The B.
[7:41] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I'm with it. Unstable creature. Yes.
[7:46] Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it.
[7:46] Speaker 3: No.
[7:47] Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it.
[7:48] Speaker 2: Y'all dragged it.
[7:48] Speaker 4: Y'all dragged it.
[7:49] Speaker 2: Nah, I'm with you.
[7:50] Speaker 4: I ain't never gonna say it again.
[7:51] Speaker 3: You being a bad influence, I feel bad like that.
[7:54] Speaker 2: That's Gilderita rubbing off on me.
[7:55] Speaker 4: The only thing I don't curse off of this couch
[7:57] Speaker 4: is funny. But, okay.
[8:00] Speaker 2: But you're right. I know you curse.
[8:02] Speaker 3: We get it.
[8:02] Speaker 4: I'm a lady.
[8:03] Speaker 2: You're in the locker room with us, so.
[8:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:06] Speaker 1: We get it. So, if you can't.
[8:09] Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to age.
[8:10] Speaker 4: No, did you see their reaction? Like, it was crazy.
[8:13] Speaker 4: I was like, all right.
[8:14] Speaker 1: Smoke Machine was not working yesterday. Smoke would have gave
[8:16] Speaker 1: you the standing ovation. The whole arena was locked in.
[8:20] Speaker 1: But if you can't watch Gills Arena Live with us
[8:21] Speaker 1: on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify,
[8:23] Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. So let's talk a little
[8:26] Speaker 1: bit about the Pelicans. Yesterday, Pelicans announced that Zion Williamson,
[8:29] Speaker 1: CJ McCollum are out for the remaining seven games of
[8:32] Speaker 1: their season. CJ dealing with a bone bruise in his
[8:35] Speaker 1: right foot that has kept him sidelined since March 23rd.
[8:38] Speaker 1: while Zion has a bone bruise in his back and
[8:40] Speaker 1: hasn't played since March 19th.
[8:42] Speaker 2: But they making up shit. Bone bruise in your back?
[8:44] Speaker 2: God damn.
[8:45] Speaker 4: I ain't never heard of that before.
[8:47] Speaker 2: Because they can't say it's an injury he already had.
[8:49] Speaker 2: Now people are going to start to question it, right?
[8:51] Speaker 2: Can't say it's his hamstring no more because that's what
[8:53] Speaker 2: it's been.
[8:54] Speaker 1: Doctor said I need a bacchiotomy. Yeah, right?
[8:56] Speaker 2: Got a bruise in the back.
[8:58] Speaker 1: Come on, man. He has not played since March 19th,
[9:01] Speaker 1: so no reason to rush either player back because the
[9:03] Speaker 1: Pelicans have a 48% chance at a top four pick
[9:06] Speaker 1: and a 12.5% chance at the top pick in the draft,
[9:09] Speaker 1: according to Tankathon. Zion's injury history is well documented. SportsCenter
[9:14] Speaker 1: highlighted that with this stat last night. Let's take a look.
[9:18] Speaker 1: So Zion has missed 258 games in his career compared
[9:22] Speaker 1: to only 214 games that he's played.
[9:26] Speaker 2: But these games shouldn't count against him. Because we know
[9:30] Speaker 2: what it is. Yeah, for sure.
[9:31] Speaker 1: So that brings me to my question. Can you think
[9:33] Speaker 1: the Pelicans are tanking or are you concerned about Zion's leg?
[9:36] Speaker 2: No, this is not real. Yeah, it's a tank.
[9:38] Speaker 4: He's tanking.
[9:39] Speaker 2: You see what he was just playing?
[9:40] Speaker 3: This ain't real.
[9:41] Speaker 1: I think he's missed the last five games before they
[9:43] Speaker 1: shut him down. This ain't real. Okay.
[9:45] Speaker 4: Tanking.
[9:45] Speaker 2: Trust me, I've been hearing, I don't want, this shit
[9:48] Speaker 2: ain't real, dog. Yeah, it happens. Like, I've been hearing
[9:52] Speaker 2: some other shit from other teams with a few situations.
[9:55] Speaker 2: This shit ain't real.
[9:56] Speaker 1: Okay, so other teams following a similar path. Yeah. Yeah.
[10:00] Speaker 2: To make up shit now. You got to make up injuries.
[10:04] Speaker 2: Because you don't want people to really start his fucking
[10:06] Speaker 2: hamstring really shot, right? Maybe his weight. Now they got
[10:11] Speaker 2: to come up with something different. Man, we know what
[10:13] Speaker 2: this is. We know what this look. Come on, man.
[10:17] Speaker 2: That's not... Don't play... Hey, man, one thing we're not
[10:20] Speaker 2: going to let you do on this couch is play
[10:22] Speaker 2: with our intelligence. Like, we're not going out there, man.
[10:26] Speaker 1: Who we look like Boo Boo the Fool. You know
[10:27] Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? But I think, you know, the
[10:29] Speaker 1: NBA's been a little... hard on teams tanking, not really
[10:32] Speaker 1: rolling with it.
[10:33] Speaker 2: They're trying to avoid these fines.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Right?
[10:35] Speaker 2: They're trying to avoid that $ 100, 000 that Utah just got
[10:38] Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago with Keontae George's situation. They're trying
[10:41] Speaker 2: to avoid these fines.
[10:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, Thunder, I think, were under investigation recently, too, for
[10:43] Speaker 1: rest of the players. Completely different thing, though.
[10:45] Speaker 2: But still.
[10:45] Speaker 1: They still won that game, and obviously they're dominating the West.
[10:48] Speaker 2: But still, they can sit somebody out in this. But
[10:51] Speaker 2: other teams, no, come on, man. They only won 21 games?
[10:57] Speaker 2: So what you think they doing?
[10:59] Speaker 1: They were my dark horse squad based on how they
[11:00] Speaker 1: played last year, but I've lost to DeJounte Murray, suffered
[11:02] Speaker 1: a ton of injuries this season. Zion been out for
[11:05] Speaker 1: a long time.
[11:06] Speaker 4: Catch a break, that one.
[11:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, because heaven forbid you keep him going out there
[11:10] Speaker 2: and he hurt his fucking hands again for real. He teared,
[11:13] Speaker 2: and then now it's really a set. So this is.
[11:17] Speaker 3: Damn, but.
[11:18] Speaker 2: All right.
[11:19] Speaker 3: You got to keep him like where he at, though,
[11:21] Speaker 3: his body wise, though.
[11:23] Speaker 2: He's figuring it out.
[11:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Can't chat once you know they agree. They're not falling
[11:26] Speaker 1: for it either.
[11:26] Speaker 2: Appreciate you. They know what to do. And unfortunately, I
[11:29] Speaker 2: think this, I don't want to put this in atmosphere.
[11:31] Speaker 2: Willie Green's situation is up in the air at best
[11:35] Speaker 2: with what's transpired. They fired the dude that was in fourth. Yeah.
[11:44] Speaker 2: Taylor Jenkins got the book. Everybody else.
[11:47] Speaker 4: They're firing coaches.
[11:48] Speaker 2: What year is this? Is this his second? No, he's
[11:50] Speaker 2: longer than that, but everybody down there, everybody else is
[11:52] Speaker 2: on the lookout. They fired a team that coached us
[11:56] Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Man. So Willie Green, this is his
[12:00] Speaker 2: fourth season.
[12:05] Speaker 1: With the Pelicans.
[12:06] Speaker 2: How many playoffs?
[12:07] Speaker 1: Made the playoffs twice, lost in the first round both seasons.
[12:11] Speaker 2: Sorry, Willie. They got swept by the thunder. Sorry, Willie.
[12:15] Speaker 2: There's nothing he can do, though. Nothing he can do,
[12:16] Speaker 2: but sorry, Willie. Zion.
[12:19] Speaker 4: So you think he's out of there?
[12:20] Speaker 1: What?
[12:21] Speaker 2: I don't think so.
[12:22] Speaker 3: What?
[12:23] Speaker 4: They've had so much.
[12:24] Speaker 2: They lost in the first round every time they've been.
[12:27] Speaker 4: But they can't stay healthy.
[12:28] Speaker 2: They ain't, so they still not, I understand some of
[12:31] Speaker 2: your best, but the ones he got, he still got shot.
[12:33] Speaker 4: Like you're still not competitive, yeah.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, after this season. So you need a restart. Get
[12:39] Speaker 2: a fresh start next season. Zion's healthy, which we hadn't
[12:43] Speaker 2: said that in a long time.
[12:45] Speaker 1: So let him to 49 wins last year. That was
[12:48] Speaker 1: their most wins since 2018. This year, I think, you know,
[12:51] Speaker 1: getting to Jontae, there was a lot of hope and expectation, but... Yeah.
[12:56] Speaker 2: We know where hope works. Absolutely, we know where hope works.
[12:59] Speaker 3: Do it depends on what pick they get, though? What
[13:02] Speaker 3: if they get like a three?
[13:03] Speaker 2: He ain't going to be there that long, boy. You
[13:06] Speaker 2: think he's going to be there until June?
[13:09] Speaker 1: Maybe.
[13:09] Speaker 2: I don't wish nothing bad on the Blacks. I'm looking
[13:11] Speaker 2: at the situation at what it is. I'll keep it going,
[13:16] Speaker 2: but I'm just looking.
[13:17] Speaker 3: Who could they get, though?
[13:18] Speaker 2: I have no idea. In the woods. Baylor Jenkins is
[13:22] Speaker 2: currently looking for a job.
[13:24] Speaker 4: He gonna get a job quickly.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Oh, it's a wrap already.
[13:27] Speaker 4: He already got a job.
[13:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, there you are. You know where you're going.
[13:30] Speaker 2: For sure.
[13:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:30] Speaker 2: He has a job already. Absolutely got a job already.
[13:34] Speaker 2: You about to go to Phoenix?
[13:35] Speaker 4: Nah.
[13:35] Speaker 3: Never mind.
[13:36] Speaker 2: I mean, mind my business. Okay.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Utah. You could join the NBA Insider Game since Woj's departure.
[13:44] Speaker 1: We need somebody to battle Shams, but we asked to chat.
[13:47] Speaker 2: Maybe San Antonio. Ooh, I know.
[13:52] Speaker 1: Some reports that he could be the one to see
[13:55] Speaker 1: Pop as the Spurs coach.
[13:57] Speaker 3: So they're not gonna let Tim ride that off? Pause?
[14:01] Speaker 2: Let Tim take over? Tim who?
[14:04] Speaker 3: Tim Duncan.
[14:05] Speaker 2: Boy, everybody don't want to coach. He didn't want to
[14:09] Speaker 2: say nothing to his teammates when.
[14:10] Speaker 3: He was there.
[14:11] Speaker 4: You think he want to say something?
[14:11] Speaker 3: Ain't he coaching now, though, for him?
[14:13] Speaker 1: Is he?
[14:14] Speaker 2: What's he?
[14:14] Speaker 1: Consulting, bro.
[14:17] Speaker 2: He talk when he want to.
[14:18] Speaker 4: Hangs out, yeah.
[14:19] Speaker 2: Speak when he's spoken to.
[14:20] Speaker 3: Let me get out the house today.
[14:25] Speaker 2: We called to ask Tim a question. Tim ain't in
[14:27] Speaker 2: there just volunteering shit.
[14:29] Speaker 3: You know, I'm bored. He's fucking too.
[14:32] Speaker 1: We asked the chat, we said, Zion's injury is A, real,
[14:34] Speaker 1: or B, Pelicans tanking. Kenyon, 87% of the chat agrees
[14:38] Speaker 1: with you that the Pelicans are tanking right now. Do
[14:40] Speaker 1: you expect a league investigation over this or.
[14:43] Speaker 4: How many games?
[14:43] Speaker 2: As long as they're doing it right. When they got
[14:45] Speaker 2: six games left. When they got six games left? Yeah. Five,
[14:47] Speaker 2: six games? Yeah.
[14:48] Speaker 4: That's a waste of resources.
[14:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're going to matter. Right, but
[14:51] Speaker 2: my thing is you, heaven forbid, like you just let
[14:54] Speaker 2: this situation.
[14:55] Speaker 1: They got six games, seven games left.
[14:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, let this go. Let it just go and play out, man.
[15:00] Speaker 2: They done in a week. Yeah.
[15:03] Speaker 3: I've been in similar situations from the Wizards, the Lakers.
[15:06] Speaker 3: I remember when they tanked, when we was tanking it.
[15:09] Speaker 3: They set us out. When I was at the Wizards,
[15:11] Speaker 3: they set Gil and Karan and them out. And then
[15:17] Speaker 3: when you know you ain't got a chance and trying
[15:20] Speaker 3: to get a higher.
[15:21] Speaker 2: Pick, hey, man, you got to do what you got
[15:23] Speaker 2: to do.
[15:24] Speaker 1: And do you respect the organization for moving like that? Obviously,
[15:27] Speaker 1: we talk about players and all the money they're making,
[15:29] Speaker 1: big teams trying to be competitive. in this league, but
[15:32] Speaker 1: you got talent like Cooper Flagg.
[15:33] Speaker 4: You have a plan moving forward, yes. But if it's
[15:36] Speaker 4: just like random, then no.
[15:37] Speaker 2: But in their situation, I understand them protecting Zion right
[15:42] Speaker 2: now and trying to move forward with that. Him being as...
[15:46] Speaker 2: See what he can do when he healthy, man. Kid
[15:48] Speaker 2: only 24, so he still got a lot of basketball
[15:52] Speaker 2: to play if you get that side of it. You
[15:54] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? It's... He plays hard. He's explosive, man.
[15:58] Speaker 2: Injuries are going to happen. Unfortunately, his has been at
[16:01] Speaker 2: the beginning of his career. And yeah, we all miss time, man.
[16:07] Speaker 2: I didn't miss whole seasons. Microfracture surgery, came back, played
[16:11] Speaker 2: a lot of basketball after that. So did I have
[16:13] Speaker 2: to change the way I play? Yeah, but still, it happens.
[16:16] Speaker 3: With that, do you trade CJ after this season?
[16:20] Speaker 2: No, CJ not the problem.
[16:22] Speaker 3: But he's a good asset you could trade for another pick.
[16:25] Speaker 2: He's somebody that can also average 18, 19 too. Fuck me,
[16:29] Speaker 2: off the bench if I need him to or if
[16:31] Speaker 2: he's still a starter. But that's what I'm saying. Somebody
[16:33] Speaker 2: could use him. We can use him. The Pelicans can
[16:35] Speaker 2: use him.
[16:36] Speaker 1: CJ got one year left on his deal. We in
[16:38] Speaker 1: New Orleans can use him. Make it $ 31 million.
[16:40] Speaker 3: A team like, who could use him?
[16:44] Speaker 2: Orlando? He needs some shooting, but I'm with you. Right now,
[16:49] Speaker 2: he with us and until we can get somebody that
[16:52] Speaker 2: can do what he can do, we gonna hold on
[16:54] Speaker 2: to him. Cause we still got this phenom at this
[16:57] Speaker 2: 24 year old over here.
[16:59] Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about Zion. Like you said,
[17:01] Speaker 1: Zion only 24 years old in the second year of
[17:04] Speaker 1: his five year, $ 197 million extension. He signed back in
[17:07] Speaker 1: the summer of 2022, still owed over $ 126 million.
[17:09] Speaker 2: After this season.
[17:12] Speaker 1: Has weight and body fat clauses in the contract that
[17:14] Speaker 1: could potentially reduce his salary in future seasons if he
[17:17] Speaker 1: fails to maintain them. But by season's end, he will
[17:20] Speaker 1: have played in 30 of a possible 82 games this year,
[17:23] Speaker 1: averaging 25.7 rebounds, career-high 5.3 assists, 57 23-66 shooting splits.
[17:30] Speaker 1: But here's the other side of it. Zion played in
[17:34] Speaker 1: 30 or less games in four of his six seasons
[17:36] Speaker 1: in the league, including missing the entire 21-22 season. So
[17:40] Speaker 1: if you're the Pelicans' front office, would you trust Zion
[17:43] Speaker 1: enough to keep building around him? Or is it time
[17:45] Speaker 1: to start picking up that phone?
[17:46] Speaker 2: You have to.
[17:47] Speaker 4: You have to trust him.
[17:48] Speaker 2: Cause you can't get, unless you finna just throw this
[17:50] Speaker 2: shit in all together and like really start.
[17:54] Speaker 3: Over, then yeah. For me it depends on what pick
[17:59] Speaker 3: I get. If I could get another phenom.
[18:02] Speaker 2: Ain't no phenom like that.
[18:03] Speaker 3: But I can't keep trying to build around somebody that's
[18:07] Speaker 3: not there.
[18:08] Speaker 2: That's tough. I understand threes is today's game. Them 360 windmills,
[18:14] Speaker 2: that's fine, but putting people in them seats, man.
[18:18] Speaker 3: But it's only happened 20 games out the years.
[18:21] Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, New Orleans.
[18:23] Speaker 4: They're not planning to win a championship or nothing anytime soon.
[18:26] Speaker 4: They trying to make money.
[18:27] Speaker 2: At this point, they can't win.
[18:29] Speaker 3: When they brung in CJ, they was trying to help
[18:31] Speaker 3: him out.
[18:32] Speaker 1: They brought in Jorjonte Murray.
[18:34] Speaker 4: I think they wanted to be competitive, but their goal
[18:37] Speaker 4: is not championship. Because if it was, I think they
[18:40] Speaker 4: would have been got rid of Zion. They really wanted
[18:42] Speaker 4: a championship that bad.
[18:43] Speaker 1: And is it almost too late now in Zion's case,
[18:46] Speaker 1: given his injury history, for another team to say, look,
[18:48] Speaker 1: We know this is damaged goods. We're not coming off
[18:51] Speaker 1: a ton of our assets.
[18:52] Speaker 2: I don't know that, man. His numbers are crazy. So
[18:55] Speaker 2: this is my thing, what I start to question, right?
[19:00] Speaker 2: It ain't the player, right? It's the staff. It's the
[19:06] Speaker 2: medical staff. It's the strength and conditioning staff, right? Because
[19:10] Speaker 2: other places, we hear about guys like Phoenix. It's top notch.
[19:14] Speaker 2: Guy get hurt. That's why Grant Hill went there.
[19:18] Speaker 3: So.
[19:19] Speaker 2: Their medical staff in Phoenix is top notch. You go
[19:21] Speaker 2: to other places, it's top notch. New York, top notch.
[19:24] Speaker 2: Like I've experienced the Knicks shit first hand. So it's
[19:28] Speaker 2: places that their medical staff and strength and conditioning is
[19:33] Speaker 2: of importance. For the Clippers, what we, right? So I
[19:38] Speaker 2: was in a horse shit organization with Denver. Medical staff,
[19:42] Speaker 2: strength and conditioning dude was great. Steve Hess was fucking
[19:45] Speaker 2: the best in the business. But other people, his colleagues
[19:48] Speaker 2: fucking awful. No, it's facts. Dr. Trainor, all of them,
[19:55] Speaker 2: horrible facts.
[19:57] Speaker 1: Good job, Paulo.
[19:58] Speaker 2: So I've been a part of it. I've been on
[20:01] Speaker 2: the good side of it, and I've seen the worst
[20:04] Speaker 2: part of it. where they just feed you anti-inflammatories, put
[20:08] Speaker 2: an ice and stem on you, and give you a
[20:09] Speaker 2: motherfucking shot in your ass of Toradol until you go
[20:12] Speaker 2: out and try the plate.
[20:14] Speaker 3: But that, you can't stop somebody from eating 12 cheeseburgers after.
[20:18] Speaker 2: They've eaten 12. I hear you.
[20:20] Speaker 1: I don't think so. We've heard no reports on eating 12.
[20:23] Speaker 2: He go get the whole menu. Well, I ain't never
[20:25] Speaker 2: heard nothing of that, but I know that he's had
[20:27] Speaker 2: injury problems that he keeps having, right? So ultimately... The
[20:33] Speaker 2: kid plays a certain way. He's built a certain way.
[20:36] Speaker 2: He's explosive. He's all these things. So you've done nothing
[20:40] Speaker 2: that we can see to help him. Yeah. Because he's
[20:43] Speaker 2: only played for you. He played for nobody else. He's
[20:45] Speaker 2: only played for y'all. So what have y'all done to
[20:47] Speaker 2: help him? That's what I started to question.
[20:49] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[20:50] Speaker 2: So now he's still a talent. He's still 24 years old.
[20:53] Speaker 2: He's still all these things. So if I'm the owner,
[20:56] Speaker 2: I'm changing the people around him.
[20:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[21:00] Speaker 2: I'm changing the medical staff. I'm finding another main head doctor.
[21:03] Speaker 2: Somebody got to answer to why this product that we
[21:06] Speaker 2: picked number one keep having this hamstring injury. I'm going
[21:09] Speaker 2: to have to pay some money because there ain't nothing
[21:10] Speaker 2: in New Orleans. So that's all I'm saying. So it's that.
[21:15] Speaker 2: All right.
[21:18] Speaker 3: Hypothetically, say, do you give them one more year? Say
[21:21] Speaker 3: next year comes the same thing. You got to get
[21:24] Speaker 3: rid of them. All right, I hear you.
[21:26] Speaker 2: Next year comes. Just hypothetically.
[21:28] Speaker 3: Next year comes, he played 25 games, 30 games.
[21:32] Speaker 2: You can't keep.
[21:33] Speaker 1: I dig it.
[21:34] Speaker 2: I hear you. So now we start, but right now,
[21:36] Speaker 2: I'm not making that move. I think you give him
[21:38] Speaker 2: one more shot. Yeah, you give him one. So to
[21:41] Speaker 2: elaborate on my point, right, about the medical staff that
[21:44] Speaker 2: I was speaking of. So my first micro fracture surgery,
[21:48] Speaker 2: I'm dealing with the team, right? I played 56 games.
[21:53] Speaker 2: The next season, I played the first two games, and
[21:56] Speaker 2: I had to miss the whole season. fall in what
[21:58] Speaker 2: they told me to do. Microfractures on my right knee
[22:03] Speaker 2: when I had missed the whole season, the two games
[22:05] Speaker 2: that I played. I stopped listening to them and started
[22:09] Speaker 2: listening to Dr. Stedman and his PT. Right? Had I
[22:15] Speaker 2: not listened to, had I not cut the team out
[22:17] Speaker 2: of my rehab and everything, my career was over, dog.
[22:22] Speaker 2: So I had to go a different route, start listening
[22:24] Speaker 2: to somebody different. Yeah, that's true.
[22:27] Speaker 3: I feel like that happens way more than it should
[22:29] Speaker 3: in pro sports.
[22:30] Speaker 1: But even from your side, Lexi, as an athlete, what
[22:34] Speaker 1: point do you know to do that, right? You go
[22:37] Speaker 1: see somebody, you think they're an expert in their field
[22:39] Speaker 1: or they're with the team, you're going to take whatever
[22:40] Speaker 1: they say at face value. At what point is it like,
[22:42] Speaker 1: I can't really fuck with y'all no more, I got
[22:44] Speaker 1: to go see?
[22:45] Speaker 4: I think something bad has to happen again, unfortunately, or
[22:49] Speaker 4: something just has to get worse.
[22:50] Speaker 2: They didn't miss 283 games.
[22:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[22:53] Speaker 2: Got to do the Kawhi, all right?
[22:55] Speaker 4: Hit him in 283 games. They haven't changed any of
[22:58] Speaker 4: the medical staff in New Orleans?
[22:59] Speaker 2: I don't know, but shit, we got something.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, missed 258 games, played in 214 games. For the
[23:04] Speaker 1: bread that you're breaking, to have his services, like I said,
[23:07] Speaker 1: only played 30 or less games in four or six
[23:10] Speaker 1: seasons in the league, including missing an entire season dealing
[23:14] Speaker 1: with injury.
[23:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to do what's best for yourself sometimes.
[23:17] Speaker 3: Got to do the Kawhi, man. What he did with
[23:20] Speaker 3: San Antonio. Brought his own people in and... But don't
[23:24] Speaker 3: that make them, don't that, like, make them Mad at you.
[23:29] Speaker 2: They feel the weight.
[23:30] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they get annoyed.
[23:31] Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, they will. But this is about me now, though.
[23:34] Speaker 2: So now y'all have done me an injustice. Y'all ain't
[23:38] Speaker 2: protected me, so now I got to protect me. I
[23:41] Speaker 2: got to start really working on me.
[23:42] Speaker 4: All they care about is you getting back on the court.
[23:43] Speaker 3: Yeah. The end.
[23:45] Speaker 2: Everybody else got their guys. Everybody else got their people now.
[23:48] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, should the Pelicans keep building
[23:50] Speaker 1: around Zion? 60% say no. So you say from a
[23:54] Speaker 1: Pelican standpoint... Hold on to Zion. Obviously, you don't want
[23:57] Speaker 1: to move him. But from Zion's standpoint, would a change
[24:00] Speaker 1: of scenery be beneficial.
[24:01] Speaker 2: To his career?
[24:02] Speaker 1: And at what point do you give Zion, like, look, man,
[24:04] Speaker 1: there's too much culinary stuff going on. Like, it's been
[24:08] Speaker 1: a dark cloud over my career since I've been in
[24:09] Speaker 1: New Orleans.
[24:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he needs a change.
[24:12] Speaker 2: Because his choice, yeah.
[24:15] Speaker 3: You can get something good for him, for sure.
[24:19] Speaker 1: And there's teams out there I feel like will still
[24:21] Speaker 1: have faith in him enough to.
[24:22] Speaker 4: So you think he would demand a trade? He would
[24:25] Speaker 4: have to, right?
[24:26] Speaker 2: He would have to.
[24:27] Speaker 3: Come out and say, man, his work tried to get
[24:30] Speaker 3: him traded. He should have listened to it.
[24:33] Speaker 2: His work did attempt.
[24:36] Speaker 3: It's like I'm a trader. If y'all don't trade, I'm
[24:38] Speaker 3: going to release the tape.
[24:40] Speaker 2: They tried to sour his name.
[24:44] Speaker 1: Still young.
[24:45] Speaker 4: That was a crazy situation.
[24:46] Speaker 3: I ain't never heard the work do that.
[24:49] Speaker 2: I'm going to call your employer. All right. Whoa, whoa, what? Whoa,
[24:55] Speaker 2: you're going to do what?
[24:56] Speaker 1: The work did try to circumvent him going straight direct
[24:59] Speaker 1: to the front office.
[25:01] Speaker 4: That was a nasty situation.
[25:02] Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to pay for this. We're going to
[25:04] Speaker 2: take this out of his check. Hold on, man. Did
[25:08] Speaker 2: try to get his wage garnished. Man. Am I going
[25:12] Speaker 2: through the proper channels? There's ways to do it.
[25:18] Speaker 1: But you.
[25:19] Speaker 2: It's new age, man. Direct. Still up to her mission.
[25:23] Speaker 2: He slid in my DM. I'm finna slide in theirs.
[25:28] Speaker 2: What's the owner's name?
[25:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[25:31] Speaker 1: It may already be in the roller, but you never know.
[25:34] Speaker 1: But let's keep this thing moving. We knew some discipline
[25:37] Speaker 1: from the league would be coming after the fight.
[25:38] Speaker 2: Between, or you don't call it a fight. The scuffle.
[25:42] Speaker 2: A melee. It was a scuffle.
[25:43] Speaker 1: Pisticuffs, if you will, between the pits and the Timberwolves
[25:45] Speaker 1: on Sunday. Shams was first on the report with the
[25:48] Speaker 1: announcement of the punishment that's been handed down. Let's take
[25:50] Speaker 1: a look. This is how you do it with no fight. So,
[25:53] Speaker 1: shout out to Underdog NBA.
[25:54] Speaker 2: Two games?
[25:55] Speaker 1: Isaiah Stewart got two games.
[25:56] Speaker 4: He got two?
[25:57] Speaker 1: Dante DiVincenzo, Ron Holland, Nas Reed, Marcus Sasser all get
[26:01] Speaker 1: one game. Well, I mean, he injected himself into it. So, Kenyon,
[26:07] Speaker 1: you were not here yesterday. You've been on spring break
[26:09] Speaker 1: with your family, so we wanted to show you the
[26:10] Speaker 1: video so you can get really a more accurate look.
[26:13] Speaker 2: Please. So let's pull up the video for reference if
[26:16] Speaker 2: we can.
[26:18] Speaker 1: Here it is right here. Holland tried to... Slap the
[26:22] Speaker 1: ball to Nas Reed. The finger in the face, too,
[26:24] Speaker 1: I think is wood. You can't put your finger in
[26:25] Speaker 1: another man's face.
[26:26] Speaker 4: Like, what?
[26:26] Speaker 2: Who put the finger in my face? That was Nas Reed, yeah.
[26:31] Speaker 1: Cameraman in the crowd.
[26:33] Speaker 2: Rudy, get your ass out of there, man. Rudy. We
[26:37] Speaker 2: ain't seen what somebody done did to you. Why is
[26:39] Speaker 2: he grabbing that? Why is he?
[26:40] Speaker 1: But even the fan in the crowd, please stop. Please
[26:42] Speaker 1: don't hit him. Come on.
[26:44] Speaker 2: Don't touch this white meat right here.
[26:46] Speaker 1: Leave this white man alone. Man, please.
[26:52] Speaker 4: I still don't know why Isaiah got the most.
[26:55] Speaker 2: I think, I mean, it's his reputation.
[26:58] Speaker 4: We talked about it yesterday, but... Yeah, we talked about
[27:00] Speaker 4: it yesterday. But that's not fair.
[27:02] Speaker 3: Your reputation follows.
[27:04] Speaker 4: These two should have.
[27:05] Speaker 2: They should have got the most because they thought... So
[27:07] Speaker 2: this is the way.
[27:08] Speaker 1: Here's the other angle of it again. We see Isaiah
[27:10] Speaker 1: Stewart's role in it, yeah.
[27:12] Speaker 4: Okay, but why didn't any... He's doing the same thing
[27:14] Speaker 4: as everybody else.
[27:15] Speaker 1: He is.
[27:18] Speaker 2: He inserted himself in the middle.
[27:19] Speaker 4: All right, he did a little bit more. He did
[27:21] Speaker 4: a little bit more.
[27:23] Speaker 1: And you see the rest of the coaches trying to grab,
[27:25] Speaker 1: but they also know, like, hey.
[27:26] Speaker 2: I don't want to. Why do coaches get kicked out
[27:28] Speaker 2: of the game?
[27:29] Speaker 1: Because I think Apollo Prigioni and J.B. Bickerstaff were going
[27:32] Speaker 1: at each other.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Man, we just pushed them again, though.
[27:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, Davidson should get two also.
[27:37] Speaker 2: For sure.
[27:37] Speaker 4: If Isaiah gets two.
[27:39] Speaker 2: He should have got the most.
[27:40] Speaker 1: And as Isaiah Stewart let the crowd know.
[27:42] Speaker 4: Maybe that might have given him another one.
[27:43] Speaker 1: Detroit F out of here, but he just let them
[27:45] Speaker 1: know the city that he's repping. So, y'all already said
[27:50] Speaker 1: you don't think the league got the suspensions right, right?
[27:52] Speaker 1: Isaiah Stewart probably didn't deserve, or unless other people got
[27:54] Speaker 1: that equal punishment.
[27:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[27:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[27:58] Speaker 2: Dude, that's how you know it wasn't a fight.
[28:01] Speaker 3: Why?
[28:02] Speaker 2: Two games.
[28:03] Speaker 3: Oh.
[28:05] Speaker 2: Even though if this was, trust me, I hate to
[28:07] Speaker 2: keep bringing the man up, if this was David Stern's NBA,
[28:09] Speaker 2: that would have been a lot more. You went into
[28:11] Speaker 2: the stands and fans was affected.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:13] Speaker 2: So you would have paid for that one. For damn sure.
[28:17] Speaker 1: Damn. But.
[28:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Well, look at when J.R. and Melo and them,
[28:23] Speaker 2: when we was in the garden. Yeah, what they got.
[28:25] Speaker 3: 25-15.
[28:26] Speaker 2: Damn, they.
[28:29] Speaker 3: Did 25? Hold this.
[28:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[28:34] Speaker 3: Punches was thrown. That's all I'm saying.
[28:36] Speaker 2: That wasn't no fight.
[28:37] Speaker 4: Right now, like, what the hell?
[28:38] Speaker 3: Yes, 25.
[28:39] Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I got going on.
[28:41] Speaker 2: I got to spend it for a fight.
[28:43] Speaker 1: Who'd you fight, Swaggy?
[28:44] Speaker 2: I slapped the shit out of somebody.
[28:46] Speaker 3: If y'all remember, it was against Phoenix. It was the
[28:50] Speaker 3: next Nash they brung in. I forgot his name. I
[28:53] Speaker 3: can't think of his name. Smacked him?
[28:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, slapped the shit.
[28:57] Speaker 1: Out of him.
[28:57] Speaker 2: Did the... Did you hit him with the.
[29:01] Speaker 3: I hit him with the.
[29:02] Speaker 2: Hit the head house and all. Dragic? Yeah, Dragic.
[29:07] Speaker 3: I had one guy I got slapped.
[29:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:11] Speaker 3: Cause the twins was pushing me so I wasn't gonna
[29:14] Speaker 3: hit the twins cause it was two of them and
[29:16] Speaker 3: Drakus was the only one there so I just slapped
[29:18] Speaker 3: him just cause I don't wanna look like.
[29:22] Speaker 1: I was getting punked. I'm watching the play right now. Yeah,
[29:25] Speaker 1: show the clip.
[29:25] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's see it.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Who filed you?
[29:27] Speaker 1: We will hunt down this dude.
[29:28] Speaker 2: I jacked him up too. I was trying to get
[29:31] Speaker 2: to the dude that fouled me. I was picking up
[29:33] Speaker 2: off-ground by his jersey.
[29:35] Speaker 4: You got to keep on the game.
[29:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, my team didn't help me. I was by myself
[29:38] Speaker 3: getting jumped. Yeah, you're getting jumped.
[29:41] Speaker 1: Chris came in just sitting on the bench, meditating with
[29:43] Speaker 1: the towel over his shoulders.
[29:44] Speaker 2: Elo was looking at you. Oh, that's Zachary.
[29:48] Speaker 1: Excuse me.
[29:49] Speaker 2: Sorry.
[29:49] Speaker 3: SD.
[29:49] Speaker 1: SD.
[29:49] Speaker 2: Well, it was them days if you step on that floor, boy. Oh, yeah. Hey,
[29:54] Speaker 2: you crossed that line.
[29:55] Speaker 3: Suspended. Huh?
[29:57] Speaker 2: I feel bad. Oh, let it be going on. You
[29:59] Speaker 2: can just step on that. You ain't even got to
[30:02] Speaker 2: get both feet on that bitch.
[30:03] Speaker 3: That's what I said.
[30:06] Speaker 2: Call Scott damn Phoenix the playoffs here. Motherfucker went out
[30:11] Speaker 2: there to see what was going on.
[30:12] Speaker 3: That was crazy.
[30:14] Speaker 2: Two games. That's why you see the assistant coaches now.
[30:20] Speaker 2: That shit going on.
[30:21] Speaker 3: Amari didn't even do nothing.
[30:24] Speaker 2: Didn't do shit. Just stepped on the motherfucker. Yeah. Zoomed
[30:28] Speaker 2: in on his ass, whoop, crossed the line.
[30:30] Speaker 3: Was it a game seven or a six? Whatever it was,
[30:32] Speaker 3: it cost him playoffs.
[30:33] Speaker 4: Damn, the playoffs is crazy.
[30:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, no, you remember with Robin Ory, goddamn body
[30:39] Speaker 2: check Steve Nash on the sideline?
[30:41] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[30:43] Speaker 2: Took him the fuck out. Oh, yeah. That shit was...
[30:47] Speaker 2: That was crazy. Fucked him. Everybody was mad about that, though. Yeah,
[30:51] Speaker 2: they suspended them boys for just stepping on the floor.
[30:54] Speaker 4: That's petty. That's petty. Hey.
[30:58] Speaker 1: So, Kenya, as our resident fight expert, while we wait
[31:01] Speaker 1: for Swaggy's video.
[31:03] Speaker 2: To get uploaded, who was at fault.
[31:05] Speaker 1: For this fight in the first place in your opinion?
[31:09] Speaker 2: I saw a clip that it was going on back
[31:11] Speaker 2: and forth.
[31:12] Speaker 1: I think Beef got attacked right prior to that for
[31:14] Speaker 1: pushing DiVincenzo.
[31:16] Speaker 2: They were going back and forth. He got ready to shoot.
[31:18] Speaker 2: He getting ready to shoot and Dante like, fuck no. Yeah, repeatedly.
[31:22] Speaker 1: Very audibly.
[31:23] Speaker 2: He got the rebound.
[31:23] Speaker 1: He got it again. He tried to say, fuck no, again.
[31:25] Speaker 2: Like, so.
[31:28] Speaker 1: It was building up. I didn't know that. Yeah, it
[31:32] Speaker 1: was building up.
[31:33] Speaker 2: But like I said, I don't consider this a fight.
[31:36] Speaker 2: Like I said, it's more of a scuffle. Like I said,
[31:39] Speaker 2: it's WWE at its finest. So you want them to
[31:42] Speaker 2: just throw hands? If we gonna do it, let's do it, man.
[31:46] Speaker 2: What we playing for?
[31:48] Speaker 3: Damn.
[31:50] Speaker 2: You trying to drop somebody on that TV? Yes, absolutely.
[31:53] Speaker 4: When was the last time someone actually put somebody in
[31:56] Speaker 4: the game?
[31:56] Speaker 3: It was probably the Lakers-Houston when we was talking about it.
[32:01] Speaker 2: There's been a few. Since then? Yeah. There's been a couple.
[32:06] Speaker 2: All that grabbing and shit, though. That shit weird to me.
[32:14] Speaker 2: So you just want to throw hands? What are we
[32:17] Speaker 2: grabbing each other for?
[32:18] Speaker 3: They're rassling.
[32:20] Speaker 1: They're rassling.
[32:21] Speaker 2: If we gonna do that, let's just go our separate ways.
[32:25] Speaker 2: What are we grabbing another for and doing all that
[32:27] Speaker 2: shit to fall in the stands, stop the game for what?
[32:31] Speaker 2: To get suspended for two games? Come on, man. That's crazy. But.
[32:34] Speaker 3: It's like, to get suspended for one game, like.
[32:37] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Let's not even do that. Let's not
[32:39] Speaker 2: even get... What is the one game for? Like, what
[32:42] Speaker 2: is it for? You're not proving any points. Ain't nobody
[32:49] Speaker 2: scared of nobody. Nobody did shit to make anybody think
[32:52] Speaker 2: anything further than what happened.
[32:55] Speaker 3: Right?
[32:56] Speaker 2: You got two games, one game, one game. Just lost money.
[32:59] Speaker 2: That's all you fucking did.
[33:02] Speaker 4: For no reason.
[33:02] Speaker 2: For no reason. We're going to do it. Let's do it.
[33:07] Speaker 2: Or let's not do it at all. And in this case,
[33:11] Speaker 2: let's not do it at all because... Y'all just fell
[33:14] Speaker 2: over into the stands, hurt the cameraman. He probably going
[33:18] Speaker 2: to sue one of you. I'm playing dead. I need everything.
[33:24] Speaker 2: One of the fans probably had to limp out there.
[33:27] Speaker 2: All that for nothing. That's all I'm saying. Let's do
[33:30] Speaker 2: it or not do it.
[33:32] Speaker 3: But sometimes you test somebody's temperature, push them, let them
[33:35] Speaker 3: know you ain't.
[33:36] Speaker 2: And that's what leads to it, though.
[33:39] Speaker 3: You ain't going to just let somebody keep messing with
[33:41] Speaker 3: you and you just going to.
[33:41] Speaker 2: Be like, This is wrestling. This is.
[33:45] Speaker 3: But I know you to push somebody like.
[33:47] Speaker 2: How about... I have a suggestion. How about y'all play
[33:50] Speaker 2: basketball that hard? How about y'all give a fuck and
[33:53] Speaker 2: keep it 90... How about y'all compete every possession like that?
[33:56] Speaker 3: Let's try that.
[34:00] Speaker 2: But when somebody started doing it, now the motherfucker like,
[34:02] Speaker 2: he found me hard.
[34:04] Speaker 1: Like, no.
[34:05] Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.
[34:06] Speaker 3: Let's put that energy into this.
[34:08] Speaker 2: Because you ain't doing nothing to nobody. And none of
[34:11] Speaker 2: y'all can go kill nothing or watch nothing die.
[34:14] Speaker 3: So you ain't never, like, pushed somebody? You just got
[34:17] Speaker 3: straight to it? You ain't never letting nobody know? Like,
[34:19] Speaker 3: all right now, you keep touching me.
[34:22] Speaker 2: My push, I'm going to grab you by your face.
[34:24] Speaker 2: See what I mean?
[34:25] Speaker 1: Well, that, I don't feel like it's a push.
[34:28] Speaker 2: That's not a push. I'm going to mush you.
[34:30] Speaker 3: He said, rip they tongue out. I'm going to grab
[34:32] Speaker 3: you by your face. I'm going to mush you, man.
[34:35] Speaker 3: Something ain't right up there, man.
[34:36] Speaker 2: If we getting into it, dog. What am I trying
[34:39] Speaker 2: to be your friend for and nice to you for
[34:40] Speaker 2: if we getting into it? That's my thing. Like, we
[34:44] Speaker 2: getting into it. If it's to that point.
[34:46] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[34:48] Speaker 2: If we've gotten our.
[34:51] Speaker 2: Testosterone up to this level that we feel we need
[34:54] Speaker 2: to tussle. I'm not trying to think about what your
[35:00] Speaker 2: fucking friend or something nice to say or do in
[35:03] Speaker 2: this moment. Don't grab me. We finna get to it.
[35:07] Speaker 3: But that's going to lead to outside, though.
[35:09] Speaker 2: That's going to lead to... What's outside?
[35:11] Speaker 3: Because everybody can't take getting two-piece now.
[35:14] Speaker 2: Well, don't start it, then walk off.
[35:18] Speaker 3: What are we wrestling for? Two kids, somebody, they can't
[35:20] Speaker 3: get you back. They don't get you back.
[35:22] Speaker 2: What are we wrestling for? No, you had the same
[35:24] Speaker 2: opportunity I had, you had.
[35:26] Speaker 1: You just chose to keep your hands down here talking.
[35:30] Speaker 2: Talking about what you're going to do.
[35:33] Speaker 4: That's all.
[35:34] Speaker 2: Because you say the wrong thing out your mouth to
[35:36] Speaker 2: some people. I grew up watching it, man. The bitch
[35:43] Speaker 2: word where I'm from gets you punched. I've seen it
[35:49] Speaker 2: on the basketball floor. Listen, playing 25, y'all play 21,
[35:53] Speaker 2: we play 25. Playing pickup, 25, playing throw-up football. Throw-up football,
[35:57] Speaker 2: instead of 21, we go to 25.
[35:59] Speaker 1: It's hard, bro. And you go back to 19 and
[36:01] Speaker 1: all that shit. But 20, we added four more points. Why?
[36:04] Speaker 2: Why?
[36:05] Speaker 3: It has to be, I don't know, that's what we play.
[36:07] Speaker 2: It has to be better than L.A.? Yeah. I had
[36:09] Speaker 2: never been to California before at this point, Nick. So
[36:11] Speaker 2: how would I know about what y'all fucking guys doing
[36:13] Speaker 2: out here?
[36:14] Speaker 3: Who made that up? Like, what made y'all say, you
[36:16] Speaker 3: know what, we ain't going to do 21?
[36:17] Speaker 4: I grew up in it, Nick.
[36:18] Speaker 3: We're going to go to 25.
[36:18] Speaker 2: When I picked up a basketball at 10 years old,
[36:20] Speaker 2: it was playing 25. So maybe you.
[36:22] Speaker 3: Should go do a search.
[36:22] Speaker 4: I have never heard anybody play 25 before.
[36:24] Speaker 1: You grew up playing 25. When you saw somebody say,
[36:27] Speaker 1: let's play 21, did you have an idea what they
[36:28] Speaker 1: were talking about? No.
[36:29] Speaker 3: Yes, I did. Okay.
[36:30] Speaker 4: But then did you make them play the 25?
[36:32] Speaker 1: No.
[36:32] Speaker 4: That's the way they played.
[36:36] Speaker 2: Did you choke them?
[36:37] Speaker 4: Wait, but you said you had to go back to
[36:38] Speaker 4: 19 from when?
[36:39] Speaker 2: If you gain point, like you free throw, you get
[36:41] Speaker 2: five or something, you got.
[36:43] Speaker 4: 20, then you got to go back.
[36:44] Speaker 2: 24 to 19?
[36:45] Speaker 1: 19.
[36:45] Speaker 2: You go back to 16 or is it 15? I'm
[36:48] Speaker 2: not sure. But the point I'm making, like just anything
[36:52] Speaker 2: where I'm from, it leads to that, right? I ain't
[36:56] Speaker 2: saying I invented starting to fight with dudes calling dudes
[36:59] Speaker 2: out their name. It happens. Yeah, yeah. That B word
[37:02] Speaker 2: get a reaction. Yeah. But this damn, like, why are
[37:06] Speaker 2: we doing all of this? We're disrupting the game. We
[37:10] Speaker 2: ain't go. Technical files, coaches getting into it. All this
[37:14] Speaker 2: over nothing.
[37:16] Speaker 1: And we talked about this yesterday on the show, but
[37:19] Speaker 1: now with the fighting, it's a business decision right now.
[37:21] Speaker 1: If you get suspended a couple games, that could be
[37:22] Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars. Should the league put something
[37:25] Speaker 1: in place? Joe Mazzullo back in October said he'd like
[37:27] Speaker 1: to see the league bring fighting back for the entertainment
[37:30] Speaker 1: purposes of it. No.
[37:33] Speaker 2: See, they think about it. They think about the suspension.
[37:40] Speaker 2: I don't think nobody thinks.
[37:42] Speaker 3: I don't know how Gil said that. Who thinks about that?
[37:45] Speaker 2: See, me, like I said, I'd rather. I'm going to
[37:49] Speaker 2: deal with that, man. Like the one season, I lost
[37:52] Speaker 2: 370 one season.
[37:54] Speaker 1: God damn.
[37:56] Speaker 3: Cool. Cool.
[38:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[38:01] Speaker 3: $ 370, 000?
[38:01] Speaker 2: Yes.
[38:02] Speaker 1: $ 370, 000.
[38:02] Speaker 3: Yes.
[38:02] Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to tell you a true story.
[38:05] Speaker 1: I lost $ 50 at a wiener snitch when I was
[38:07] Speaker 1: 14 years old, and I still think about that.
[38:08] Speaker 4: What?
[38:09] Speaker 1: And guess what? Birthday money fell out of my pocket.
[38:12] Speaker 2: And guess what? $ 370, 000? And guess what?
[38:14] Speaker 3: $ 50.
[38:16] Speaker 4: $ 50?
[38:18] Speaker 2: At the one on La Brea, right there. It's lost
[38:19] Speaker 2: on La Brea.
[38:20] Speaker 3: I used to feel like it was a blessing finding.
[38:23] Speaker 2: Money like that. I'ma stand on, like I said, I
[38:27] Speaker 2: ain't never been locked up, ain't never been to jail,
[38:30] Speaker 2: I ain't never been in no gang, I ain't never
[38:32] Speaker 2: claimed to be tough. Like people always claim I claim
[38:34] Speaker 2: to be tough, I ain't never claimed to be tough.
[38:37] Speaker 2: But I drew a line in the sand a long
[38:39] Speaker 2: time ago, man. I stand on something. And I stand
[38:44] Speaker 2: for something. You don't stand for something, you fall for anything.
[38:48] Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it. I haven't, I'm not turning
[38:50] Speaker 2: no cheeks, I'm not doing like, no. I came into
[38:56] Speaker 2: the NBA that way and I left out that way.
[38:58] Speaker 3: Do you think because of that, like, do you think,
[39:01] Speaker 3: would you have been like Isaiah getting two games?
[39:04] Speaker 2: No, my shit was worse. I'm not wrestling, Nick.
[39:07] Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying, like, because of that, people
[39:10] Speaker 3: gave you, they gave you text more and suspended you more.
[39:13] Speaker 2: They didn't try me because they knew what, Nick, after
[39:16] Speaker 2: that season, that 370, no, I had no other fights
[39:21] Speaker 2: in the game. That's what I'm telling you.
[39:23] Speaker 4: Because everyone was scared of you?
[39:25] Speaker 2: No, they just knew what it was going to lead to.
[39:27] Speaker 2: They knew they had to fight. No, they had to fight.
[39:29] Speaker 2: I don't want you to be scared of me. Please don't.
[39:31] Speaker 1: I don't want nobody.
[39:33] Speaker 2: To be scared of me because you're scared you'll run.
[39:36] Speaker 2: I want you to stand there and take it. This
[39:37] Speaker 2: motherfucker crazy. I walk away, I walk away.
[39:40] Speaker 4: I might get into a fight this summer, man.
[39:43] Speaker 2: No, this is the one. So people, this is, this
[39:45] Speaker 2: is grown man shit.
[39:46] Speaker 4: I want to be able to contribute to this conversation.
[39:47] Speaker 3: I ain't never been to jail.
[39:49] Speaker 4: I ain't never thrown nothing.
[39:50] Speaker 2: Listen, I grew up in a certain, I grew up
[39:51] Speaker 2: in a certain environment. I want you to run.
[39:53] Speaker 3: Right?
[39:53] Speaker 2: I grew up in a certain environment.
[39:55] Speaker 1: I'm running.
[39:56] Speaker 2: I got help. I'm running away. Fighting for stuttering, fighting
[40:00] Speaker 2: for not having much, fighting for all kinds of shit
[40:03] Speaker 2: as a kid, right? Getting picked on because I stutter,
[40:06] Speaker 2: me not wanting to participate in class, kids teasing me, this, that,
[40:10] Speaker 2: going to the rec center, niggas fucking with me. After
[40:14] Speaker 2: a certain age, anything you did led to a fight. Yeah,
[40:17] Speaker 2: we had to fight, yeah. That's just what it was.
[40:19] Speaker 2: I drew a line in the sand. I took that
[40:23] Speaker 2: to college. I left with that. I took that to
[40:27] Speaker 2: the NBA, and I left with that. That's true. I'm
[40:31] Speaker 2: a 47-year-old grown-ass man. I don't bother nobody. But I
[40:35] Speaker 2: stand on something. These dudes don't know. They think about
[40:40] Speaker 2: the consequences. When I was playing, I didn't think about
[40:44] Speaker 2: the consequences when it came to it. If we gonna
[40:47] Speaker 2: do it, we not finna talk about it.
[40:49] Speaker 1: We don't grab me.
[40:50] Speaker 2: Assistant coach grabbed me one time, we got into a leg,
[40:53] Speaker 2: I damn near, listen dude, do not fucking grab me
[40:56] Speaker 2: when we get into it. Because if one of them
[40:58] Speaker 2: niggas punch me, while you grabbing me, I'm gonna beat
[41:02] Speaker 2: the shit out.
[41:02] Speaker 1: You when this is done.
[41:05] Speaker 2: You got me hit, dog.
[41:07] Speaker 3: You got me punched.
[41:09] Speaker 2: We getting into.
[41:10] Speaker 1: It and the assistant coach come up behind me and
[41:11] Speaker 1: grab me.
[41:12] Speaker 3: And you hit me, Nick?
[41:13] Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
[41:14] Speaker 3: I'm so mad.
[41:15] Speaker 2: I'm going to be livid. So this is what I, like, no,
[41:20] Speaker 2: this is, so this shit, let's not do it. Or
[41:23] Speaker 2: we going to do it.
[41:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[41:25] Speaker 2: But in these dudes' situations, like, they think about the consequences.
[41:28] Speaker 2: When I played for them 15 years, I didn't think
[41:31] Speaker 2: about the consequences during the game.
[41:34] Speaker 1: Okay, now it's a 47-year-old man that's gotten to look
[41:36] Speaker 1: back at your life. Do you wish you thought about
[41:38] Speaker 1: the concept?
[41:39] Speaker 3: No.
[41:39] Speaker 4: No regret.
[41:40] Speaker 2: No, bro.
[41:40] Speaker 1: You want to know?
[41:42] Speaker 2: Absolutely not, man. Because then it's not.
[41:47] Speaker 2: Like I said, I went into the NBA being me. So, no,
[41:53] Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been being like, I'm not going... I
[41:55] Speaker 2: understand what people are thinking. Maybe it's absolutely, but.
[42:01] Speaker 2: Never faked it. Wasn't going to fake it. going to
[42:04] Speaker 2: show up authentic and be me through every situation. Could
[42:09] Speaker 2: have played certain games within the NBA better?
[42:12] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[42:14] Speaker 2: But, Just not, it wasn't who I was, right? Yeah,
[42:18] Speaker 2: you scared a lot of people, man. Well, hey, if
[42:20] Speaker 2: they was scared, that was on them, bruh. Like I said,
[42:23] Speaker 2: and I said, if you scared, get a dog, call
[42:25] Speaker 2: the police, man. Scared of David Stern?
[42:27] Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm getting some- He was like, you know what?
[42:29] Speaker 1: I'm not getting him.
[42:30] Speaker 3: Hey, you scared?
[42:31] Speaker 2: Get a dog and call the police. That ain't my concern. No,
[42:33] Speaker 2: he can play defense. You know what? But he's too
[42:36] Speaker 2: goddamn gangster. I ain't gonna give him no rules, you know?
[42:40] Speaker 2: That's fine. I've been fucking with him.
[42:41] Speaker 3: That's because he be punking people. You got to stop
[42:43] Speaker 3: punking people. You got to stop saying shit with aggression
[42:46] Speaker 3: all the time.
[42:46] Speaker 1: I'm a man.
[42:47] Speaker 3: I'm going to fuck a nigga up now. No, I
[42:50] Speaker 3: don't bother nobody. Nigga, you see me with my kids?
[42:52] Speaker 3: The sand is drawn.
[42:53] Speaker 2: You see where I just came from, dog? I do everything. Listen, bro.
[42:56] Speaker 3: I rip his tongue out and wipe my balls up.
[42:59] Speaker 2: Give up my balls, them shits.
[43:03] Speaker 4: See, you just take it to the bar every time.
[43:05] Speaker 1: You took it to another level. But Lexi, I just
[43:08] Speaker 1: got word from our producer. They said if you get
[43:09] Speaker 1: into a situation this year in the WNBA, you have
[43:11] Speaker 1: to throw hands. Underdog will pay the fine. We just
[43:13] Speaker 1: want to see you do it.
[43:14] Speaker 4: All right, cool.
[43:16] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[43:16] Speaker 2: And Swaggy, you talked about the fight.
[43:18] Speaker 4: I'm going to do it here in LA.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Hey, we will be at the Sparks now. You already know.
[43:22] Speaker 1: Thor and Sparks is already circled on the calendar. But Swaggy,
[43:24] Speaker 1: you talked about how you got into a little fist
[43:26] Speaker 1: of cuffs with Dragic and the Suns. We have been
[43:28] Speaker 1: able to locate that video. Audience, please bear with us.
[43:30] Speaker 1: This is a super, super standard definition. It's going to
[43:33] Speaker 1: be hard to make out faces and figure out who
[43:35] Speaker 1: is what. But let's take a look at that video.
[43:37] Speaker 2: Disclaimer.
[43:38] Speaker 1: So, it was actually, I believe, Alex Lin that fouled you.
[43:40] Speaker 2: I was trying to get to him.
[43:42] Speaker 1: Alex Lin fouled you. You pushed him. Oh, there you go.
[43:44] Speaker 1: The twins right there. So, my favorite part about this,
[43:49] Speaker 1: as you said, both the twins squaring your face. You
[43:53] Speaker 1: circle around them to get to Duggan.
[43:55] Speaker 3: I was trying to get to Alex. That's why I
[43:58] Speaker 3: was locked in. And he was the last person I was, like, moved.
[44:02] Speaker 2: You saw white.
[44:04] Speaker 1: But Alex Lin, hard fact, kind of hits you in
[44:06] Speaker 1: your face. Little extra right away. The head nod, let's
[44:10] Speaker 1: him know it's real, but they're Morris twins.
[44:12] Speaker 2: Oh, nope, now. Who the fuck is number four?
[44:14] Speaker 1: Move around now.
[44:15] Speaker 4: Who?
[44:15] Speaker 2: Who is number four in your team? A duke, a dukey.
[44:18] Speaker 1: Oh, that was. Who? Ryan Kelly.
[44:19] Speaker 3: Ryan Kelly.
[44:20] Speaker 2: Mm. What?
[44:23] Speaker 1: Hey, hey guys.
[44:24] Speaker 2: Look at him. Look at him.
[44:25] Speaker 3: He didn't even try.
[44:26] Speaker 2: I didn't help you do nothing.
[44:28] Speaker 1: He didn't even.
[44:29] Speaker 3: Look at who I'm talking to.
[44:31] Speaker 1: Look at him.
[44:32] Speaker 2: Your team made some hoes.
[44:34] Speaker 4: I got mad.
[44:34] Speaker 2: I said something.
[44:35] Speaker 4: They hated you.
[44:36] Speaker 2: I would have threatened all the niggas in the locker room.
[44:39] Speaker 3: Talk it out, Bunko.
[44:40] Speaker 2: Oh, damn. Yeah, I got suspended.
[44:43] Speaker 4: How many games?
[44:44] Speaker 2: Just one game.
[44:46] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat in terms of the Pistons-Wolves
[44:49] Speaker 1: suspensions that were handed down. 54% of the chat thinks
[44:52] Speaker 1: the suspensions were fair. 46% says they were unfair. There's
[44:56] Speaker 1: a lot of fighters in this chat.
[44:57] Speaker 2: Damn, K, 370 though. 370. You want to see a fight,
[45:00] Speaker 2: go look at Rudy, no, not me. Go look at
[45:03] Speaker 2: motherfucking Rudy Tub Donovich and goddamn Kermit Washington. Now, you
[45:07] Speaker 2: want to see a fight?
[45:08] Speaker 1: Yes.
[45:08] Speaker 2: The chat. Go look up Rudy Tub Donovich and goddamn
[45:13] Speaker 2: Kermit Washington. and you want to see a goddamn punch.
[45:17] Speaker 1: I think Kermit with golden glove boxers going up.
[45:19] Speaker 2: It changed goddamn history. Kermit was, yeah, yeah.
[45:22] Speaker 1: It's tough because every time you see Rudy Chase. You
[45:24] Speaker 1: know you get punched when a punch turn you into
[45:27] Speaker 1: a coach.
[45:30] Speaker 2: I don't think Rudy T ever played again.
[45:32] Speaker 3: But that messed up Kermit, though.
[45:34] Speaker 2: Kermit, he wasn't the same. No, he definitely wasn't the same.
[45:37] Speaker 2: He wasn't the same. He definitely wasn't.
[45:39] Speaker 1: He did to that man's face?
[45:40] Speaker 2: No, they blackballed him, for sure.
[45:42] Speaker 4: For punching somebody?
[45:43] Speaker 2: For punching white men. He broke his face.
[45:45] Speaker 3: And broke his face.
[45:46] Speaker 1: Had he punched somebody else, he.
[45:48] Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't have been as bad.
[45:49] Speaker 3: Damn.
[45:50] Speaker 2: He punched a white man and fucked his whole shit up.
[45:53] Speaker 3: If you break somebody's face, you definitely getting black.
[45:56] Speaker 2: You running up on the fight? Yeah, you won.
[45:59] Speaker 4: Daya!
[46:00] Speaker 2: Hey, man.
[46:01] Speaker 1: He was jogging.
[46:04] Speaker 2: Had he been running full speed?
[46:06] Speaker 4: He ran into it.
[46:08] Speaker 2: He ran into it. He saw him coming. He had time.
[46:11] Speaker 2: He timed his ass up.
[46:13] Speaker 1: Damn.
[46:14] Speaker 2: Kermit had been lifting weights and shit. Listen, man.
[46:16] Speaker 1: It was like Debo and Red in real life.
[46:18] Speaker 3: Was he running to Kermit or he was running to
[46:21] Speaker 3: try to help?
[46:22] Speaker 2: Whatever he was doing, He felt threatened. See, this is
[46:27] Speaker 2: what I mean. Kermit felt threatened.
[46:29] Speaker 4: Oh, so you run up on the wrong person, you're
[46:30] Speaker 4: going to get punched in the face.
[46:31] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Which is not happening right now. That's the point
[46:33] Speaker 2: I'll always be making.
[46:34] Speaker 4: Which is not happening right now.
[46:35] Speaker 2: That's the point I've been making forever. I hope that
[46:38] Speaker 2: don't happen.
[46:39] Speaker 4: I don't want to see no one get punched in
[46:41] Speaker 4: the face.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Peace and positivity here in Gillsville, represented by Underdog Woo Woo. Listen, Chad,
[46:46] Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. Chad, after you watch this show,
[46:51] Speaker 1: utilize YouTube. Got multiple devices. If both of them ain't
[46:54] Speaker 1: doing this, which they should be, trust me. So, as
[47:00] Speaker 1: a reminder, Beef Stew suspended two games. Dante DiVincenzo, Ron Holland,
[47:03] Speaker 1: Nas Reed, Marcus Sassler all suspended one game for that.
[47:06] Speaker 2: Pistons, Wolves, bro.
[47:07] Speaker 3: But let's keep this... Dante should have been two, though.
[47:10] Speaker 2: Dante should have been two. Because they're the ones who
[47:13] Speaker 2: instigated it. Mm-hmm.
[47:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[47:15] Speaker 2: They should have got the most. For sure.
[47:17] Speaker 4: Or just give them all one. Like, why are you
[47:21] Speaker 4: giving him.
[47:21] Speaker 2: Because it's reputation.
[47:22] Speaker 1: I know, but why? Because he tried to check Gil.
[47:25] Speaker 2: Because he'll... Hey, it's so weird. If you keep going
[47:29] Speaker 2: to jail, they ain't gonna keep giving you the same time.
[47:31] Speaker 2: You're a repeat offender. Listen, I was a repeat offender.
[47:35] Speaker 1: Trust me.
[47:39] Speaker 2: The second was worse than that.
[47:40] Speaker 3: The third was.
[47:41] Speaker 2: Hey, the fines went up. That kicked out of the game.
[47:44] Speaker 2: He could probably fight that for sure, though.
[47:47] Speaker 1: $ 35, 000.
[47:47] Speaker 3: For clapping?
[47:48] Speaker 2: Herbal abuse of a game official. He could fight that.
[47:51] Speaker 1: I think, you know.
[47:52] Speaker 4: He should try.
[47:53] Speaker 2: He could fight that.
[47:54] Speaker 4: Just off the strength of he didn't even start the
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[49:54] Speaker 1: Let's shift over to college. You know, obviously, Swag, we
[49:56] Speaker 1: talked about unfortunate situation. We had a bet that we
[49:59] Speaker 1: made Instagram official if UCLA advanced further than USC.
[50:02] Speaker 4: Oh, that was for men and women?
[50:04] Speaker 2: No, just for women. Just for women.
[50:05] Speaker 4: Oh, just for women.
[50:05] Speaker 2: His men's team is trash. Oh, damn.
[50:08] Speaker 3: Okay.
[50:08] Speaker 1: Y'all got knocked out. Page back with UConn.
[50:10] Speaker 4: Oh, so you got to wear UCLA shit tomorrow?
[50:12] Speaker 1: So now we got to refer LA and beat UConn
[50:14] Speaker 1: in the final four. But we're going to get to
[50:16] Speaker 1: that later. But when it comes to NCAA tournament this year,
[50:19] Speaker 1: it's the women... who have the biggest star power.
[50:22] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[50:23] Speaker 1: Lexi, you already knew that.
[50:24] Speaker 3: Yep.
[50:25] Speaker 2: So, wrong one, Paolo.
[50:26] Speaker 1: Let's go back to the graphic from boardroom. We're going
[50:30] Speaker 1: to talk about Olivia Miles.
[50:31] Speaker 4: That is crazy.
[50:31] Speaker 1: In just a moment.
[50:32] Speaker 2: That's us. In just a moment.
[50:35] Speaker 3: That's crazy.
[50:37] Speaker 1: So, the boardroom IG page put up a graphic of
[50:40] Speaker 1: the most followed NCAA hoopers in the tournament.
[50:43] Speaker 3: Yes, girls.
[50:44] Speaker 1: Top four are all-women's hoopers.
[50:45] Speaker 3: Yes, girls.
[50:46] Speaker 2: Paige Beckers leads the way with 2.1 million followers. Flagey.
[50:49] Speaker 1: Who got her team eliminated by UCLA, just to point out,
[50:53] Speaker 1: just in case you guys didn't watch that game. Two
[50:54] Speaker 1: million Instagram subscribers. Haley Van Lint at 1.2. Juju Watkins.
[51:00] Speaker 3: Juju, why?
[51:01] Speaker 2: 1.1, sending our love and prayers to Juju.
[51:03] Speaker 1: Why? And likely number one overall pick, Cooper Flagg in
[51:09] Speaker 1: fifth with one million followers.
[51:12] Speaker 2: That's all you got?
[51:14] Speaker 1: So, Lexi, what does this say about the state of
[51:16] Speaker 1: men's and women's college hoops?
[51:19] Speaker 4: Um, well, I think everyone says it all the time.
[51:21] Speaker 3: There's just.
[51:23] Speaker 4: There's no storytelling, there's no storylines, and there's no relationships
[51:27] Speaker 4: built in men's college basketball anymore.
[51:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, no more, for sure.
[51:29] Speaker 4: So, I think it's just as simple as that. Also,
[51:32] Speaker 4: I think women are just... They're better at social media,
[51:35] Speaker 4: I think.
[51:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[51:36] Speaker 4: As well as taking pictures and doing stuff like that,
[51:39] Speaker 4: interacting and engagement.
[51:40] Speaker 2: There's a bunch of fucking creeps out here.
[51:43] Speaker 4: That, too.
[51:43] Speaker 2: There's a lot of thugs.
[51:44] Speaker 4: That's a conversation for another day, but, yeah.
[51:48] Speaker 1: Um.
[51:49] Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's the benefit of women staying
[51:52] Speaker 4: in college. As long as they do, they're able to
[51:53] Speaker 4: build their platforms and brands. Well, now, how they want.
[51:57] Speaker 4: It wasn't always like that. So seeing the girls in
[52:00] Speaker 4: the four of the top five is really fire. Because
[52:03] Speaker 4: I remember them coming up from high school and just
[52:05] Speaker 4: seeing them all grow and build all very differently. And
[52:09] Speaker 4: they're all very unique. I think this is fire.
[52:12] Speaker 1: To your point that women hoopers know how to use
[52:15] Speaker 1: social media better than men, after the show yesterday, you
[52:18] Speaker 1: had the phone stuck to the glass back there making videos,
[52:22] Speaker 1: doing TikToks, getting to work. I had no idea what
[52:24] Speaker 1: was going on. Sorry for making you have to do
[52:27] Speaker 1: another take.
[52:28] Speaker 4: I love the TikTok.
[52:31] Speaker 1: Even for us, we all grew up watching March Madness.
[52:34] Speaker 1: I remember how much of an impact it used to
[52:35] Speaker 1: have on my life, watching games, doing that stuff. I
[52:38] Speaker 1: used to look forward to it. I still think about
[52:40] Speaker 1: Mike Bibby and Arizona Squad beating Kentucky in the natty game,
[52:43] Speaker 1: him rocking the phone posits, but it just don't feel
[52:46] Speaker 1: like that.
[52:46] Speaker 4: Not hitting the same.
[52:48] Speaker 1: This dude was on this team last year. He's been
[52:50] Speaker 1: in three schools since whatever. I know it happens both
[52:52] Speaker 1: on the men's and women's side, but do you even
[52:55] Speaker 1: watch the tournament like that anymore on the men's side?
[52:58] Speaker 2: Not really, unless it's like....
[53:02] Speaker 3: Well, I watched Cooper Flagg, you know, just because of
[53:04] Speaker 3: the star power. But, yeah, it lost its mojo, I
[53:09] Speaker 3: feel like. There's too many one-and-dones. I don't really know
[53:14] Speaker 3: where people at. You know, one day they're playing on
[53:17] Speaker 3: this team. Next thing you know, they're playing for another team.
[53:21] Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just don't got that. You
[53:23] Speaker 3: don't hear the diaper dandy, and you know, my man
[53:27] Speaker 3: ain't out there.
[53:27] Speaker 2: It's just... Shout out Dickie Vicks.
[53:29] Speaker 4: Lost its oomph.
[53:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, it got to get back, you know.
[53:34] Speaker 3: I think probably the last time, like, I felt good
[53:38] Speaker 3: about March Madness probably was when Zion was playing.
[53:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[53:44] Speaker 1: And then, Kenyon, to your side, you see the graphic
[53:46] Speaker 1: with the, you know... the state of the Instagram following
[53:51] Speaker 1: and who are the most following NCAA hoopers. What does
[53:54] Speaker 1: that say about the state of men's and women's college basketball?
[53:57] Speaker 1: Also last year, women's tournament. Smack the men's tournament viewership.
[54:01] Speaker 2: Just focus on the growth of the women's game. There's
[54:06] Speaker 2: more little girls that look like Paige and that have
[54:11] Speaker 2: their parents and create Instagram accounts for them and they
[54:13] Speaker 2: follow them and different things like that that dream to
[54:17] Speaker 2: be them one day, you know, so. It's dope, man,
[54:20] Speaker 2: just to see where it's going, to have Juju in
[54:22] Speaker 2: there as well, giving hope to little brown girls everywhere
[54:26] Speaker 2: to strive to be something like this. It's great. Yeah, no,
[54:32] Speaker 2: just because it's, like, I've always said, like, the women
[54:35] Speaker 2: players have always been more skilled than the men players
[54:38] Speaker 2: because they have to be. And it's just now that
[54:42] Speaker 2: people are starting to pay attention to it more and
[54:44] Speaker 2: they're starting to see it. So, no, it's dope. It's
[54:47] Speaker 2: really dope, man, to see it and And to your
[54:49] Speaker 2: point about the men's side, it's the conversation I had,
[54:54] Speaker 2: somebody was like, and you don't see Cinderella teams like
[54:57] Speaker 2: this year or last year. I said, because every Cinderella school,
[55:02] Speaker 2: they big player, they best player, transferred to the team
[55:06] Speaker 2: that's in Elite Eight.
[55:07] Speaker 3: Yep.
[55:08] Speaker 2: So you're not going to see any more Cinderella schools.
[55:12] Speaker 2: Hate to bust y'all bubble with this.
[55:13] Speaker 4: Mid-majors are like Juco's.
[55:14] Speaker 2: The mid-majors are like Juco's right now. They're not making
[55:18] Speaker 2: the Elite Eight, Sweet Six. It's just not going to happen.
[55:21] Speaker 1: It feels like going to a mid-major now is punishment.
[55:23] Speaker 3: It is.
[55:24] Speaker 1: Where back in the day, hey, you might not have
[55:25] Speaker 1: got recruited by the major conferences, major schools, but you
[55:28] Speaker 1: can go to a mid-major. You kind of still have
[55:30] Speaker 1: a similar... They might have more gear or more resources
[55:33] Speaker 1: than you, but you're all on kind of a level
[55:34] Speaker 1: playing field where now coaches in that portal, they looking,
[55:38] Speaker 1: here's a check for you.
[55:39] Speaker 3: Man.
[55:39] Speaker 2: It's not even close. It's making it hard on the
[55:41] Speaker 2: freshmen and incoming freshmen, things like that, because they have
[55:44] Speaker 2: to wait. Like, it's crazy that they literally, they got
[55:47] Speaker 2: to wait unless you come in with that, the Dylan Harpers,
[55:51] Speaker 2: the Cooper Flay, unless you come in with that, you
[55:54] Speaker 2: got to, like, there's no.
[55:57] Speaker 2: There's nobody checking for you, really. Which is unfortunate for
[56:00] Speaker 2: the men's side of it, and.
[56:01] Speaker 3: Right?
[56:03] Speaker 4: Even McDonald's. Or they're gonna end up at the smaller
[56:05] Speaker 4: schools first, and then they're gonna have to.
[56:06] Speaker 2: And you got these kids that's... I'm gonna cut you
[56:08] Speaker 2: off later. Like, these guys are... 25, 26 years old. 24, 25,
[56:14] Speaker 2: 26 years old playing college basketball.
[56:17] Speaker 3: This is a dude playing.
[56:18] Speaker 1: Just as old as Luka. You can't be the same
[56:22] Speaker 1: age as Luka still in there.
[56:23] Speaker 4: Older than Zion.
[56:24] Speaker 2: I'm looking at him. I'm like, look at this grown-ass man.
[56:26] Speaker 2: Who the kid played for the other day that fell
[56:29] Speaker 2: on his arm?
[56:30] Speaker 4: The Auburn kid? How old is he?
[56:34] Speaker 2: Shit, the nigga at least 30. You look 30. You
[56:38] Speaker 2: look 30.
[56:38] Speaker 1: Tell me you came.
[56:39] Speaker 2: Out the womb, my boy.
[56:42] Speaker 3: They're old as shit.
[56:43] Speaker 4: At least 30. At least 30. And the new thing
[56:45] Speaker 4: that they're trying to do with the Juco, the eligibility,
[56:49] Speaker 4: that's going to mess everything up.
[56:51] Speaker 2: Right, you can play, go to Juco, go to college, play,
[56:57] Speaker 2: get a medical, play, get another medical problem, play two more,
[57:01] Speaker 2: and now you're 26 years old.
[57:02] Speaker 3: Man, like....
[57:05] Speaker 4: And they going to finesse it now because you make
[57:06] Speaker 4: so much money in college now. So they're just going
[57:08] Speaker 4: to try and finesse it.
[57:10] Speaker 2: It's a shit show.
[57:11] Speaker 3: The women, they got a lot of those Jimmy Fredettes
[57:16] Speaker 3: and Steph Curry stories.
[57:18] Speaker 2: Jimmy Fredette.
[57:20] Speaker 3: But when Jimmy was playing, everybody wanted to see him
[57:23] Speaker 3: and shoot all them crazy shots. I don't think on
[57:25] Speaker 3: the men's side... We ain't had one of those in
[57:28] Speaker 3: a while. Because people don't stick with, like, Lexi's point. Well,
[57:30] Speaker 3: because people are asking about, like, when.
[57:34] Speaker 4: I was in college, you got to think about the
[57:36] Speaker 4: guys that were also in college when we was there. Like,
[57:39] Speaker 4: Trae Young was in college when I was in college.
[57:41] Speaker 4: All the Duke players, the guys at UNC, when they
[57:44] Speaker 4: were really good, like, there were superstars everywhere. And it
[57:48] Speaker 4: was a bunch of them on a bunch of different teams.
[57:50] Speaker 4: Now it's like, you got one here, you got one here.
[57:52] Speaker 4: And then for one year, they all team up and
[57:54] Speaker 4: maybe get to the Final Four, and then it's over.
[57:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[57:57] Speaker 4: In the end.
[57:58] Speaker 2: And they stand for three years, two, three years then.
[58:00] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[58:01] Speaker 4: But people are like, y'all didn't get the viewership. I said,
[58:03] Speaker 4: look at who was playing on the men's side. Like,
[58:07] Speaker 4: it was like, it was just different.
[58:09] Speaker 3: And it's frowned upon, like, to stay, like, three years.
[58:14] Speaker 3: You don't really, the NBA don't really look at them
[58:16] Speaker 3: type of guys in the first round that much, you know.
[58:19] Speaker 2: Back then, you know.
[58:22] Speaker 3: Somebody that was a junior or senior could go like
[58:24] Speaker 3: top five or number one.
[58:26] Speaker 2: They ain't gonna start. They ain't got no choice to
[58:29] Speaker 2: start drafting guys 22, 23.
[58:31] Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have to.
[58:32] Speaker 2: They ain't got no choice.
[58:34] Speaker 4: It's just becoming like a trickle-down effect.
[58:36] Speaker 2: The dudes that stand in college, everybody can't keep drafting
[58:39] Speaker 2: everybody 19, bruh.
[58:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, the league is gonna look disgusting if you do that.
[58:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, you just can't.
[58:45] Speaker 4: You got a bunch of 19-year-olds.
[58:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's going on.
[58:49] Speaker 2: You might as well start letting them come out of
[58:50] Speaker 2: high school if you're gonna continue to do that.
[58:51] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[58:53] Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to talk about one thing you said.
[58:55] Speaker 1: Parents creating Instagram accounts for their kids. See this a
[58:58] Speaker 1: lot nowadays. Parents, I got to chill with talking, trying
[59:02] Speaker 1: to talk in the voice of your child.
[59:04] Speaker 2: With elaborate-ass words.
[59:05] Speaker 1: Like, we know it's you going at other kid pages,
[59:09] Speaker 1: but it's just the parent going at each other. Kids
[59:11] Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on.
[59:12] Speaker 4: That's crazy.
[59:13] Speaker 1: I mean, I see this all the time, and they
[59:14] Speaker 1: be going just hard on each other, and it's like.
[59:16] Speaker 2: Oh, I know you do, because you be coaching. Yeah,
[59:18] Speaker 2: I'm just.
[59:19] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, like, what is the state of, like, youth sports?
[59:22] Speaker 1: Like, little kids. My kids are six and eight. Talk
[59:24] Speaker 1: about being on Instagram.
[59:26] Speaker 2: Too much.
[59:26] Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. That's going to go on IG. I'm
[59:28] Speaker 1: just like, y'all got to chill out, man.
[59:30] Speaker 2: It's too real. It's more, so my kids, yes, so
[59:34] Speaker 2: my youngest two, we went over to a new program.
[59:37] Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting there, I look at shit, and
[59:39] Speaker 2: by the way, I'm just, I'm thinking to myself, like,
[59:45] Speaker 2: there's like $ 100, 000 worth of motherfucking shoes in this bitch
[59:48] Speaker 2: right now. Right? The new KDs, the new Hooks, the
[59:53] Speaker 2: new Jaws, the new this, the Jordan this, the one,
[59:56] Speaker 2: I'm like, Fuck kids don't know how to fucking dribble.
[1:00:05] Speaker 4: You got new shoes on.
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: Exclusives, though. There's two little girls walk in.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, when them come out? Some old KDs
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: with the strap on. I'm like, yeah, they walk both
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: of them. I'm like, when them come out?
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: Those are not the hooping.
[1:00:18] Speaker 3: I'm like, damn.
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: Those are coming out, motherfucker.
[1:00:21] Speaker 3: Not anymore.
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: You leave them in a box and think about wearing them.
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: You don't even wear them.
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: Shooting the layup over the basket. Yeah, it'd be crazy.
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: That motherfucker. It'd be crazy.
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: They look good.
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. My
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: daughter think I'm nuts. Trust me.
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: Mean.
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: No, hey, that ain't no, we ain't doing that, man. Like,
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: you can get some cool shoes. You want some shoes?
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: Woman hoops. We get them Sabrinas. We get them fucking shoes.
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: But we ain't finna go buy no, no, we going
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: to Dick's. On the wall.
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: Pick one. Pick one on the wall.
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Dick from the wall.
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: Nah, but dicks... Sporting good.
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, dicks sporting good.
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: They be having good shoes. I'm gonna say dicks got good...
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: They got good dicks.
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: So you like dicks?
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: Yes. Do I like dicks? Since you opened the door.
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: Since you opened the door, step in it.
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: You like dicks.
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: You're not going to get me like he got you.
[1:01:22] Speaker 4: You got killed bad. You got killed bad.
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: That was an enjoyable time. That was probably one of
[1:01:29] Speaker 1: the highlights of my time on this show. Yeah, that
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: was a really good one. But let's talk a little
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: bit more about the conversation between men's and women's college hoopers.
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: Yes, please.
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: Are fans able to invest more in women's college hoopers
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: because there's no one and done rule? Like, you know
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: you got to stay for four. Sometimes five as we'll
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: talk about in a moment, but you get somebody like
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: a Paige Beckers who now.
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: And even with her, like she missed a lot of
[1:01:49] Speaker 4: time and she was still able to keep her momentum,
[1:01:52] Speaker 4: her fan base, which is impressive. That's not easy to do,
[1:01:55] Speaker 4: especially mentally. You're trying to get back, but you're still
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: trying to build a brand at the same time. And
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: she's been able to do it.
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: Or Haley Van Lint, who started at Louisville, goes to LSU,
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: goes to TCU.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: I was finna make the point.
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: What?
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: She stayed her ass.
[1:02:08] Speaker 4: At one place.
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: Stayed her ass there. She came in with that hype, right?
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: They love me here.
[1:02:15] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: I got a following here. This man believe, we're going,
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: we're going.
[1:02:21] Speaker 4: But she had a goal in mind. She was a
[1:02:23] Speaker 4: pro when she got to the league. A lot of
[1:02:25] Speaker 4: these girls probably don't even have WNBA aspirations for real.
[1:02:29] Speaker 4: So they're going to maximize their time in college, which
[1:02:32] Speaker 4: makes me nervous because then it's going to turn into
[1:02:35] Speaker 4: what we're dealing with with the men. People just bouncing
[1:02:37] Speaker 4: around from school to school to school to school.
[1:02:40] Speaker 3: I don't know, because in women's sports, you know your stars. Like,
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: y'all stars stand out. Like, when you're the best woman.
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: Player you stand out. I feel like when like somebody
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: like y'all playing amongst like the stars stand out in
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: women's college women's sports, I feel like.
[1:02:58] Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we, I mean, we about to talk
[1:03:00] Speaker 4: about it now. Like we've never seen what just happened happen.
[1:03:04] Speaker 4: And then another girl who, who led the nation in
[1:03:08] Speaker 4: scoring at Florida state, she leaving.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[1:03:11] Speaker 4: So, like, we ain't never seen... She had one more
[1:03:13] Speaker 4: year at Florida State. She was going to go down
[1:03:14] Speaker 4: as one of the best players to play at Florida
[1:03:16] Speaker 4: State ever. And she did.
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: She still is probably going to go down, isn't she?
[1:03:19] Speaker 4: Yeah, but, like, they probably going to be like, girl, bye.
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: Well, Lexi, segue, Lexi, as you will now be known.
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: So while we're talking about the NCAA tournament, we've got
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: to talk about some shocking news that came down yesterday,
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: according to Shams. So Notre Dame's Olivia Miles.
[1:03:34] Speaker 4: I know, when did Shams start getting these women's basketball?
[1:03:35] Speaker 1: Shams got everything. He's the only plug now. He got
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: the Greek Connect. He done cut everybody else. They're pricing
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: the brick going up. But Notre Dame's Olivia Miles, projected
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: number two pick in the WNBA draft, will forego the draft,
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: enter the NCAA's transfer portal. 22-year-old top prospect makes unprecedented
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: decision to use her one year remaining of college instead
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: of the draft. So after a run of the Sweet
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: 16 and the expectation of being selected, second overall after
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: Paige Beckers, who right now is, I think, a lot
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: of people's census number one pick in the WNBA draft.
[1:04:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: Extremely unexpected turn of events for Olivia Miles. So what's
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: your take on this whole Olivia Miles situation, her deciding
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: to hit the transfer portal?
[1:04:12] Speaker 4: Someone threw her a bag. She's going to make a
[1:04:14] Speaker 4: lot of money. So why not? I would probably do
[1:04:18] Speaker 4: the same thing.
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: So if you were in her position.
[1:04:20] Speaker 4: Especially right now with our CBA negotiations, it wouldn't actually
[1:04:24] Speaker 4: make sense for her to come out.
[1:04:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:04:26] Speaker 4: Because she actually will lose money if she is getting
[1:04:30] Speaker 4: paid whatever amount she's getting paid. She comes out in
[1:04:34] Speaker 4: the draft, is stuck in the old CBA rookie deal.
[1:04:37] Speaker 4: She's losing, like she is.
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: Actually going to lose. Which is what, a four-year deal?
[1:04:40] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, so now if you wait for this next year.
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: If you wait, you're like literally going to lose money, so.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: New collective bargaining.
[1:04:45] Speaker 4: For the first time, that is actually true, that going
[1:04:48] Speaker 4: to the WU will lose money.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: Well, shit, hey, there you have it.
[1:04:52] Speaker 4: All right.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: Duh.
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: And the math, and the math wasn't mathing.
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: No.
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: And.
[1:04:57] Speaker 4: Which is, yeah, when that news came out, I was shocked,
[1:04:59] Speaker 4: but I still was like, I shouldn't have really been shocked.
[1:05:02] Speaker 4: I was shocked about her leaving Notre Dame. I wasn't
[1:05:06] Speaker 4: shocked about her staying in college.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: Probably need to fulfill them educational obligations, right? Now it's
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: just about basketball, right?
[1:05:17] Speaker 4: I wonder if she's gonna be a grad transfer too.
[1:05:20] Speaker 4: I mean, I hope she got a degree from Notre Dame.
[1:05:22] Speaker 4: It's a great school.
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: Now it's just about basketball for her. She did really
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: good over here.
[1:05:25] Speaker 4: I hope, yeah, it should be fire for her. So
[1:05:28] Speaker 4: I hope she can graduate and just go hoop.
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: For those on the women's side, Notre Dame traditionally breaks bags,
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: takes care of their players. So you said you were
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: more surprised that she's dipping from Notre Dame.
[1:05:39] Speaker 4: Yeah, rather than her staying.
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: So do you think it was just bigger bags somewhere else?
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: For sure. Which?
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: How much was she projected to be getting now? Do
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: anybody know?
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:05:50] Speaker 4: In college right now?
[1:05:52] Speaker 3: I'm saying Notre Dame's the top.
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: What was her idea?
[1:05:56] Speaker 4: That's why it's so interesting because her social media presence
[1:06:00] Speaker 4: is not like the other ones. She's an excellent player.
[1:06:05] Speaker 4: So it really just depends on your situation and who
[1:06:08] Speaker 4: you are, whether you get all these other brand deals
[1:06:11] Speaker 4: and all this other money and notoriety. So I think
[1:06:14] Speaker 4: she's trying to probably build her brand And Notre Dame's
[1:06:17] Speaker 4: like one of those you not bigger than the programs
[1:06:19] Speaker 4: type programs.
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: Do it sound crazy that like a number two pick
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: say I'm going back to school?
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: In any sport?
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: Yes, but like I just said, the timing of it
[1:06:31] Speaker 4: is crazy. So I feel like any other year, she
[1:06:34] Speaker 4: would have probably come out.
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: But now with NIL, it's not as crazy because as
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: a number two pick.
[1:06:38] Speaker 3: I'm staying.
[1:06:39] Speaker 2: I'm staying. Somebody want that. Somebody want that.
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: It's like 80 grand, 70, 80 grand a year, WNBA
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: for four years.
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: It's a lot different. You're talking NFL, NBA to WNBA money.
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: It's a lot different. And next year, she could be
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: like the main person.
[1:06:54] Speaker 3: I hate to say it, with Juju being out, you
[1:06:56] Speaker 3: don't know how long she's going to take to come back. Yeah.
[1:07:00] Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I do think maybe some of their
[1:07:03] Speaker 4: decisions were impacted by Juju getting hurt.
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: Which is wild, because you say, oh, Juju got hurt.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: I should go to the league and try to get
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: my bread. But nowadays, damn, Juju got hurt. I should
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: stay in college and go get this.
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, I could be number one.
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: I need to worry about my future.
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: Yeah. Fuck Juju.
[1:07:20] Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm so sad still. I like thinking
[1:07:22] Speaker 4: about it once a day.
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: He could have won a championship. I can't behave.
[1:07:28] Speaker 4: Y'all still can.
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: Mm, now we got our ass whooped. We gonna have
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: to run it back next year when we healthy. We'll see. Shit,
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: if I'm her, I'm not playing college basketball next year.
[1:07:38] Speaker 4: I know she won't.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to rush back.
[1:07:42] Speaker 2: I'm not trying to rush back to that. Still getting paid.
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: Still got her likeness, trust me.
[1:07:48] Speaker 4: Oh, and the likeness is now even comeback season. She
[1:07:52] Speaker 4: got a whole new likeness. Her whole likeness is shifted.
[1:07:55] Speaker 3: You know how big that'll be if she win a chip?
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: I'm rehabbing. That's the third year I'm rehabbing next year.
[1:08:02] Speaker 3: Don't listen to them, Ju. They want to see you play.
[1:08:05] Speaker 3: They want to see you play, can you move?
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: By the end, y'all money gonna.
[1:08:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, when our money goes up, yeah. She might not
[1:08:11] Speaker 4: play college again.
[1:08:13] Speaker 1: Yes, still be number one pick. We know on the
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: men's side, they got the one and done rule. On
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: the women's side, you gotta stay four years, write or
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: graduate to be.
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: Able to go. What? We want to see a chip
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: in L.A. You might. I'm thinking about our future. You're
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: very close to seeing one.
[1:08:27] Speaker 3: I don't want to see them. Two games away. I
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: don't want to see them win.
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the young lady's future, Nick.
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: That's all. This could push her.
[1:08:35] Speaker 4: Because she's not getting money from USC. She's getting money
[1:08:39] Speaker 4: from everywhere else.
[1:08:40] Speaker 2: National championship. We went to Elite Eight. Without her. Without
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: the national championship, guess what? She's still the number one pick.
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: Nah, cause we don't know how that knee look.
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why she not playing next year. We need
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: her to take her time. Set out a whole year,
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: then enter the W. Nah, don't listen to them. Yeah, listen.
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: Trust me. You could be a part of history.
[1:09:03] Speaker 3: You don't know how it feel to go to USC
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: and win.
[1:09:05] Speaker 2: That's why, like, you're going to have money forever. Boosters.
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we saw what happened with OJ, so
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be forever. Or
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: they can.
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: Do it like they did Reggie Bush.
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: Just be real.
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: He had to go get his shit back.
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: He got it back.
[1:09:23] Speaker 1: But Reggie never.
[1:09:23] Speaker 3: Gave back his Heisman. But he got his jersey.
[1:09:27] Speaker 2: Back on the thing.
[1:09:27] Speaker 1: Didn't they give him his Heisman or no?
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: I don't think they gave it to him. He got
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: it back. I thought they put him in a commercial.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: I thought he said he lost it.
[1:09:37] Speaker 4: I know, he looking at all this and like, what
[1:09:39] Speaker 4: the hell?
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[1:09:42] Speaker 3: I thought he said he lost it so he won't
[1:09:44] Speaker 3: have to.
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: Give it back to them. Of course he gonna tell
[1:09:45] Speaker 2: you that. That's what I would tell you.
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: I know, he looking at all.
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: This NIL stuff like, what the hell? Like, ruined my
[1:09:51] Speaker 4: damn career.
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: On the men's side, we got one and done. Women's side,
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: you got to stay four years before you graduate before
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: you can go to W. But we've seen the W's
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: growth and expansion now. We got three teams coming in
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: the next two years. Should the WM consider it? altering
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: their draft eligibility requirements to allow college players to enter
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: the league sooner? No.
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: Still no. Still no.
[1:10:10] Speaker 4: Go get your degree, girl.
[1:10:12] Speaker 3: I think it's good for the league when you see, like,
[1:10:15] Speaker 3: their number one picks come in. Like, you get a
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: lot of.
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: I don't think it should be three years.
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: I think it probably should be two. It's three.
[1:10:22] Speaker 4: Depending on how old you are.
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: I have a question. Do the women's side... Just say
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: if you leave early. would they pay for you to
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: come back and get your degree?
[1:10:39] Speaker 4: I think it depends on the relationship you have with
[1:10:41] Speaker 4: your school, honestly. Like my best friend, she actually had
[1:10:46] Speaker 4: transferred from North Carolina to Tennessee, graduated in her four
[1:10:51] Speaker 4: years and had one more year of eligibility, and she
[1:10:54] Speaker 4: went overseas. And then she got picked third the next year.
[1:10:57] Speaker 4: So if you want to leave, if you want to
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: graduate early and.
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: You might not be voting now. I'm saying I graduate early. Yeah,
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: come back.
[1:11:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it really will depend on your relationship.
[1:11:07] Speaker 2: If you come in as a freshman, you do your
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: three years or whatnot, you decide, okay, I'm going to
[1:11:11] Speaker 2: leave after my third year and go to the W, right?
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: Oh, I think they pay for you after you.
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: The W or college?
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: No, your college would they allow you.
[1:11:20] Speaker 4: I think it will depend on the relationship you have.
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, because most men's side, if you stayed for whatever years,
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: let's say you left early, like just... I know somebody
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: that left out their freshman year.
[1:11:32] Speaker 4: And went back and.
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: Paid for the last few years for them to get
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: his degree. Because it still goes down as a graduate
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: of the program. for graduation rates and all that. Graduation rates.
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: Does that stuff even matter anymore? It doesn't matter anymore.
[1:11:48] Speaker 1: At all.
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: Like it used to, but I'm just saying, but it's still.
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: It looks good on the brochure, right? When you send
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: the shit out in the mail and you're trying to
[1:11:58] Speaker 2: get alumni to give money. 97% of our guys graduate
[1:12:02] Speaker 2: like that. That shit looks great, right?
[1:12:04] Speaker 4: What I see... It took them.
[1:12:05] Speaker 2: 23 years to graduate, but.
[1:12:08] Speaker 4: What I can see happening is maybe girls, if our
[1:12:11] Speaker 4: salaries do go up significantly, I would see girls maybe
[1:12:13] Speaker 4: trying to do that, plan something with their school, or
[1:12:17] Speaker 4: just try and graduate in three years, because that's possible, too,
[1:12:20] Speaker 4: and they can go.
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: It's definitely possible.
[1:12:21] Speaker 4: And they can go.
[1:12:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to take online classes for USC this summer. Well,
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: somebody going to take online classes for me. That's how
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: it goes on.
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: That side of town.
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:12:31] Speaker 4: No, you're going to take them.
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to take them.
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, should the WNBA allow one
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: and done? 65% of the chat disagrees with you, Lexi.
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: They said that they should allow it. But obviously you
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: know more about the interwar.
[1:12:46] Speaker 4: No, because they just want it for one player. So
[1:12:49] Speaker 4: I get it. They want it for Juju.
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: I have a question.
[1:12:54] Speaker 4: Y'all want these women running around with no degree at
[1:12:57] Speaker 4: 19 years old in the real world?
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: No, I get you. So then that's when.
[1:13:01] Speaker 4: With non-guarantee contracts.
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: But men did it, though, right? It's the chance you take.
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: If you believe in your skill set, if you're trying
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: to be a pro, right, and you believe in your
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: skill set, then it's the chance you take. Just like
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: the men's side. Some of them kids wasn't going to
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: make it. They believed in their skill set. It was
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: a lie. But, then you gotta make, so that's why
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: a family, so that's why.
[1:13:28] Speaker 4: I'm just big on education.
[1:13:29] Speaker 2: That's why a family.
[1:13:30] Speaker 4: That's where I'm at with it.
[1:13:31] Speaker 2: I don't care about nothing else. Yeah, but a lot
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: of them, Tony, let me ask you this. Most college degrees,
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: people not working in that field no way. Yeah.
[1:13:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have it.
[1:13:43] Speaker 2: I'm working mine. I got a fucking piece of paper.
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: You want to hang it on your wall? I can
[1:13:48] Speaker 2: write some shit on it for you. What you want
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: me to write on it? I can write anything, bitch,
[1:13:52] Speaker 2: so you can stick it on your wall. But if
[1:13:54] Speaker 2: you ain't using it, it's just a waste of fucking money. Time, resources.
[1:13:59] Speaker 3: But with them, don't you feel like them being a
[1:14:01] Speaker 3: star in college is like being the one or two
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: top players in college? Like, that means something, too, though. Like,
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: that's like the same level as being in the WNBA.
[1:14:12] Speaker 3: Because you get all the focus on you. Like, if
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: Juju stays, she'll have all the focus on her. Instead
[1:14:18] Speaker 3: of going and fighting with everybody in the WNBA.
[1:14:21] Speaker 4: I mean, it would change the landscape, but you're.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: Not playing against... She's forced to go to, as opposed to,
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: I get to pick SC.
[1:14:29] Speaker 4: I get to pick, I get to bring in players
[1:14:30] Speaker 4: that I want.
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: And they're getting money.
[1:14:33] Speaker 4: I can bring in transfer players.
[1:14:35] Speaker 3: I'm on both sides.
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: I understand.
[1:14:37] Speaker 3: I heard the girl from Notre Dame coming to USC.
[1:14:42] Speaker 1: So, Swaggy, you said you're taking online classes. Producers want
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: to know, what classes are you taking?
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: Please tell.
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: Well, I was a sociology major.
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:14:54] Speaker 3: So, I changed into business because I want to expand
[1:14:59] Speaker 3: my law. I'm trying to be a lawyer, so I'm
[1:15:03] Speaker 3: going into the law now.
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: You're going to be a lawyer going into the law now?
[1:15:08] Speaker 4: What kind of lawyer?
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: Donnie Cochran? What kind of.
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: I gotta take, I don't know, there's a lot going on.
[1:15:14] Speaker 3: I'm trying to pick which, I wanna be swaggy to
[1:15:16] Speaker 3: the lawyer.
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: You better call Saul.
[1:15:22] Speaker 3: Whatever the person, whoever the person that's gonna take, I mean,
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: whatever classes I take, there's some, you know.
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: You could be the black Jacob and Ronnie, too. Think
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: about it.
[1:15:33] Speaker 4: So we still do not know what.
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: Classes you're taking? That's an L.A.
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: Joke.
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he don't know. A lot of y'all don't
[1:15:39] Speaker 2: understand it.
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: He gave you one class.
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: The question was not answered. He gave you some shit
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: that they put on his schedule as a freshman. Sociology. Oh,
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: I remember that name. That's why I was like, what's
[1:15:50] Speaker 2: your major? He don't know.
[1:15:51] Speaker 4: That was my major. That's a good major.
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: What is it?
[1:15:55] Speaker 4: I think all athletes should have studied sociology at some
[1:15:58] Speaker 4: point in their college.
[1:15:59] Speaker 3: I like that stuff, though. I was like, we big.
[1:16:03] Speaker 3: We got like an acting... We got acting classes and stuff.
[1:16:06] Speaker 3: They gave you that to help with your GPA?
[1:16:09] Speaker 2: No, but I liked it, though. You took finger painting
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: and stuff? No, I don't.
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: Think we had a finger painting course at USC.
[1:16:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, video game class, too. Yeah, acting, video game. Yeah,
[1:16:20] Speaker 2: they gave you that to help with your GPA.
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: So our showrunner, Steve, used to be a professor at USC.
[1:16:25] Speaker 1: Professor Martinez wants you to know that his sports production
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: course is no longer being offered, unfortunately, since we got
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: to a million subs.
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: You know, we were committed to Gilderita, Presenter Box. Whatever Dr.
[1:16:35] Speaker 2: Green did to USC.
[1:16:36] Speaker 4: They sure did have basketball class.
[1:16:38] Speaker 2: I had basketball 101.
[1:16:39] Speaker 3: Bowling. Bowling was a class. Bowling?
[1:16:43] Speaker 4: I took a history of hip-hop classes.
[1:16:45] Speaker 2: I did, too.
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: That was fun.
[1:16:48] Speaker 4: It was fun.
[1:16:48] Speaker 3: Actually, it was kind of hard.
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: It was.
[1:16:50] Speaker 2: It was history of music.
[1:16:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: You think it's just going to be, we're going to
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: talk about rap.
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: No.
[1:16:56] Speaker 2: No.
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: You're not.
[1:16:57] Speaker 2: History of music.
[1:16:58] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:16:59] Speaker 4: History of hip hop.
[1:17:00] Speaker 2: Who made that?
[1:17:01] Speaker 3: Dr.
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: Dre did.
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: Dr.
[1:17:03] Speaker 2: Dre got his own building up there at USC, so
[1:17:05] Speaker 2: I might do that. You might do it?
[1:17:06] Speaker 4: You might do the building?
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: The music department.
[1:17:09] Speaker 1: I might do music. Well, keeping it in L.A. So
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: we weren't going to talk about the Lakers today.
[1:17:15] Speaker 4: Sociology music.
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: We weren't going to talk about the Lakers today, but Swaggy,
[1:17:20] Speaker 1: you asked me to put it in the show.
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: Of course. So I had to do it.
[1:17:23] Speaker 3: I mean, we had to do it.
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: They say we talk about the Lakers too much in
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: the chat. Did you see them yesterday? I called them heads.
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: I already talked about them motherfuckers yesterday, man.
[1:17:30] Speaker 3: Huh?
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: Huh? Can you remember the.
[1:17:32] Speaker 2: Game last night?
[1:17:33] Speaker 4: Did we talk about the Lakers yesterday?
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: No, we didn't.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Maybe. Who knows?
[1:17:36] Speaker 4: Not really.
[1:17:37] Speaker 3: Not really.
[1:17:37] Speaker 1: A little bit. More Grizzlies.
[1:17:39] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, we talked a lot about the Grizzlies yesterday.
[1:17:41] Speaker 1: We talked it from the Grizzlies' angle. They just happened
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: to play the Lakers on Saturday.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: The fight is W.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: Then Monday, Rockets happened to play the Lakers. So, Lakers
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: hosted the Rockets in a battle between the teams with
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: the two toughest remaining schedules in all of basketball. Let's
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: see some of the highlights, if we can. It was
[1:17:58] Speaker 1: a productive evening in Los Angeles. This was a tightly
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: contested game. What the hell? With neither team leading by
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: double digits at any point. Game started slow, both teams
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: failing to score 20 points in the first quarter while
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: putting up more bricks than Freeway Rick. It was a
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: more balanced scoring game on both sides as well with
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: 20 points being the game high. Amand Thompson got there
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: for the Rockets while Luka Doncic, Gabe, Shamar Moore-Vincent, and
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: Black and Mild during Finney-Smith got there for the Lakers.
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: Finney-Smith and Vincent did so off the bench giving the
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: Lakers a much needed spark with their 12 combined threes
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: in the game on a night where LeBron scored just
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: 16 points You see Jackson Hayes dunking on the Shanguine.
[1:18:42] Speaker 1: Obviously Dylan Brooks was up to his mischief, trying to
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: poke LeBron and the rest of the Lakers. You see
[1:18:49] Speaker 1: Black and Miles right here. here.
[1:18:50] Speaker 4: Great pass.
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: Great, great game on his side.
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: Good to add.
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: Rui Hachimor, he had more action as well for the
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: Lakers as he bounces back from injury.
[1:18:59] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. No, don't do that. Yeah. That's what Miles got.
[1:19:04] Speaker 2: Smoke weak-ass tech, too.
[1:19:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an unfortunate tech.
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: I'm going to be real. He got a tech?
[1:19:08] Speaker 1: He got a tech for that. Talking to his bench,
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: that shit weak as hell. But late in the game,
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: Lakers up four. Bron came through with one of his
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: trademark block by James. Showing he still got a little
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: bit left in the tank. So the Rockets got a
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: combined 23 points out of Alperin Shangun and Jalen Green,
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: which explains why they failed to reach 100 points after
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: dropping 148 points in a 39 point win against the
[1:19:30] Speaker 1: Suns on what, was that Sunday? Their previous game.
[1:19:35] Speaker 2: You see how high Shangun goes off the ground?
[1:19:39] Speaker 1: So Jalen Green spent most of crunch time on the
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: bench playing five minutes in the fourth quarter going scoreless
[1:19:46] Speaker 1: in that period. He was four of 13 from the
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: field with nine points. Lakers and Rockets have split their
[1:19:50] Speaker 1: first two games of the season. Final meeting coming on
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: April 11th in L.A.
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: Obviously used to be a Rockets fan when KJ was there,
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: but student of the game. Did last night tell you
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: more about the Lakers or the Rockets?
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: I'm going to go more with the Rockets. No, I
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: don't care what y'all do. Just a minute. You traveled
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: past the 10.
[1:20:20] Speaker 1: You were officially at Los Angeles.
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: I go the back way. Just completely? Yeah, I go 210. Yeah,
[1:20:29] Speaker 2: I go around. Yeah, I go all the way around.
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: From here, I take the 118 to the 210. I
[1:20:32] Speaker 2: go that way. You know what I'm talking about? I
[1:20:40] Speaker 2: think Houston trying to prove something to themselves and the
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: league and not to have I think they're not their
[1:20:54] Speaker 2: best player their second best player not out there when
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: they this point of the game, at this point of
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: the season.
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: We've seen that this season with Jalen Green. He'll have
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: great games and he'll have games where I'm going to
[1:21:05] Speaker 1: say he disappears.
[1:21:06] Speaker 4: He's very up and down.
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, he is.
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: He's streaky, but he's still his presence. I'm not saying
[1:21:14] Speaker 2: he's as good as Tracy or none of them guys,
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: but he's that kind of aura when he's on the
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: floor that he draws attention. So, when he's making shots
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: or not. But I'm not his head coach, so. Oh,
[1:21:26] Speaker 2: he wasn't out there right then? What happened? He wasn't
[1:21:29] Speaker 2: out there.
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: So you want to listen to what Josiah was saying?
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: Sat most of crunch time, only played five minutes in
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, was scoreless.
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: What was he going for? What was his shooting percentage?
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: He was 4 of 13 in the game, only had
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: nine points.
[1:21:42] Speaker 2: He only just read it. He only just read the shit.
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: Like literally right before I started speaking. I don't read
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: the script. I didn't read the script either. I just
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: listened to what he was saying. I found out the
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: exact same time that Lexi did. And everybody else in
[1:21:58] Speaker 2: the goddamn studio. All I heard was Lakers. I tried
[1:22:00] Speaker 2: to do that in my husband's.
[1:22:00] Speaker 3: All I heard was Lakers, and that's what I was
[1:22:02] Speaker 3: going to talk about.
[1:22:03] Speaker 2: Complete information, right? I didn't hear Houston. I didn't hear Green.
[1:22:06] Speaker 2: I just heard Lakers. I was going to talk about
[1:22:09] Speaker 2: how good the Lakers are. Okay. Well, like I said,
[1:22:11] Speaker 2: it says more about that. Not to score 100. It's rough.
[1:22:20] Speaker 2: They can't. It's the Lakers.
[1:22:22] Speaker 3: Rough.
[1:22:23] Speaker 1: Stifling defense.
[1:22:24] Speaker 2: They scored 140-something points.
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: The night before.
[1:22:26] Speaker 3: He's not the first. See, they used to be in
[1:22:29] Speaker 3: the first Lakers. This is Luka Laker now.
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: This is the Lukas. They ain't fucking with Luka Laker.
[1:22:33] Speaker 2: LA Lukas. Y'all still don't even score a fucking hundred.
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: It don't matter. Look, you know why?
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: Because we got a goddamn... Shamar Moore comes out the door.
[1:22:42] Speaker 2: He must be in contract here. He must.
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: I think he has another year left on his deal, but... Oh, well, shoot. Shamar,
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: very streaky, but to your point about Jalen Green, so
[1:22:50] Speaker 1: according to StatMama, Green, youngest Rockets player to record 50
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: career games with 30 points, also third youngest shooter guard
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: ever to reach that.
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: So he's shown he has the potential to do it.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: But like I said, at times this season, he's been
[1:23:01] Speaker 1: on the bench when it's winning time.
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, that's the relationship that he has with,
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: I'm saying, Emmy. But I don't, I wouldn't, like I said,
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: just his presence on the floor draws attention. Yeah. So,
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: but like I said, that's the way he felt he
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: needs to coach his team when Hopefully it doesn't translate
[1:23:22] Speaker 2: into a postseason situation where you can lose somebody in
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: a playoff series. That's that defensive shit. So, but?
[1:23:31] Speaker 3: I hate them defensive coaches. I just want to play defense.
[1:23:36] Speaker 3: That's why you lose sometimes. You try to put all
[1:23:39] Speaker 3: your defenders in at the end and give it to
[1:23:42] Speaker 3: Sangoon that can't jump over shit.
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: His feet.
[1:23:46] Speaker 3: So the motherfucker's getting blocked and shit. That's what happens, man.
[1:23:53] Speaker 3: They need a star that they could go to in
[1:23:57] Speaker 3: the playoffs. I think the stars get the teams over
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: the hump sometimes. They need somebody that they can go
[1:24:03] Speaker 3: to and get a bucket. And I think they think
[1:24:05] Speaker 3: Sangoon is that guy over Green.
[1:24:09] Speaker 2: I don't think so.
[1:24:10] Speaker 3: I think you need Green out there. He would have
[1:24:14] Speaker 3: put pressure on the Lakers.
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: Would you please let this young man know what Alpreem
[1:24:19] Speaker 2: Stangoon is averaging on the season, please? I will do
[1:24:21] Speaker 2: that for you right now.
[1:24:22] Speaker 1: Swaggy, Swaggy, let me tell you that he does not care.
[1:24:25] Speaker 2: Okay, well, you should.
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: It's not working.
[1:24:29] Speaker 4: It's not working.
[1:24:30] Speaker 1: He's comparable to Jackson Hay.
[1:24:32] Speaker 2: No. So, yeah, 19 points and rebounds, five assists. Put
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: the system, please.
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: I'll give you a full body of work. 50% from
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: the field.
[1:24:42] Speaker 2: Trust me.
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: That damn adult league basketball, 40-year-old, slow shit, can't jump,
[1:24:47] Speaker 3: got to do hook shots and shit.
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: Just being a smart, slow, fat, big.
[1:24:51] Speaker 3: There's only one good one, that's Joker.
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: There's only one slow, fat.
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: Good one.
[1:24:55] Speaker 1: There's only one good one, that's Baby Joker.
[1:24:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, so that shit get blocked. This ain't going to
[1:24:59] Speaker 3: work in the playoffs. So you need somebody that that
[1:25:03] Speaker 3: could create, you gotta give him confidence.
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: You need somebody that can create, is that what you said?
[1:25:09] Speaker 2: Obviously he ain't watched him play. So why would y'all
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: be listening to anything coming out this morning? I'm gonna
[1:25:13] Speaker 2: put the ball in Green's hand before I put it
[1:25:15] Speaker 2: in his. I'll put it in.
[1:25:17] Speaker 4: Depends on the game.
[1:25:21] Speaker 3: I don't know, for me I feel like him doing
[1:25:25] Speaker 3: that slow shit with one minute left, you could key
[1:25:28] Speaker 3: in on it more than somebody like Green that could
[1:25:31] Speaker 3: scoring different areas, mid-range, three-pointer, athletic, could dribble, could handle.
[1:25:40] Speaker 3: Even with Denver, they go to Murray for game winners
[1:25:42] Speaker 3: before they go to the Jokers.
[1:25:46] Speaker 2: But I think the big guy has the ball in
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: his hands first.
[1:25:48] Speaker 3: I think when Murray pulls us out the playoffs, all
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: I see is.
[1:25:51] Speaker 2: When Murray beat us in the playoffs is Murray. And
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: the ball starts in the goal of his hands first.
[1:25:56] Speaker 2: It's a pick and roll. Starts with Nikola first.
[1:25:58] Speaker 3: To get the big, to guard Murray, and Murray take advantage.
[1:26:02] Speaker 2: So who did the big start on? It's a pick
[1:26:05] Speaker 2: and roll. That don't mean the starter, that don't mean
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Joker has the ball first. So how did the big
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: get on him? Pick and roll. Who had the ball?
[1:26:11] Speaker 3: Murray, coming off a pick and roll. If some big
[1:26:13] Speaker 3: man's standing in the screen, that's a switch. You get
[1:26:15] Speaker 3: the big on you.
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: That don't mean Joker has the ball. That ain't right
[1:26:17] Speaker 2: in the pick and roll.
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: That mean you call the big nigga up like, come on,
[1:26:20] Speaker 3: do your job.
[1:26:20] Speaker 2: No, no, not in this situation. If you had a...
[1:26:22] Speaker 2: Set the screen. No, no. You don't throw it. If
[1:26:25] Speaker 2: you had Nurkic, yeah, that's the case, yes.
[1:26:28] Speaker 3: In my playoffs, I've seen Denver versus Lakers.
[1:26:33] Speaker 2: So what was the end result? I remember Murray. I
[1:26:36] Speaker 2: don't remember Jokers. What was the end result? What was
[1:26:39] Speaker 2: the end result?
[1:26:40] Speaker 3: Letting y'all ass home. That's the old Lakers.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: You brought it up, motherfucker. That's the old Lakers.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Kane, the thing about the old days is.
[1:26:50] Speaker 2: You brought it up.
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: Even the coach tried to punk LeBron because we.
[1:26:53] Speaker 2: You brought it up. We was weak then.
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: The coach was talking shit to LeBron. Call him a B-word.
[1:26:58] Speaker 3: LeBron should have said... Out pockets. Should have, didn't. But
[1:27:02] Speaker 3: he blocked that shit and said... Like I said, you
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: all want to bring up old shit.
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: He blocked the shot.
[1:27:07] Speaker 3: Bitch.
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: I always want to bring up old shit. Talking about now.
[1:27:10] Speaker 2: Block that shit. Talking about Alpene Sangoon. That 50-year-old block
[1:27:14] Speaker 2: your shot. Talking about Alpene Sangoon. He made a good play.
[1:27:18] Speaker 2: Threw that shit to the fifth stand. The fifth stands.
[1:27:23] Speaker 2: What was the fifth? The fifth.
[1:27:25] Speaker 4: Nick, what goes on in here?
[1:27:27] Speaker 2: Nothing.
[1:27:28] Speaker 3: I know he's going to fight with me, so I
[1:27:30] Speaker 3: got to be quick on my feet. So a lot
[1:27:32] Speaker 3: of words don't come out like they should.
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: And you've seen them old school cartoons, right? motherfuckers go
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: in their business, a birdcage. The fucking birds just flying
[1:27:43] Speaker 2: around and that motherfucker chasing one another. It was more quiet.
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: When you going back on vacation? Hey, listen.
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: On the 17th.
[1:27:53] Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with this shit.
[1:27:55] Speaker 2: On the 17th, I'm going fishing. Got one coming up.
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: So, Lexi, looking at this Lakers-Rockets game last night, did
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: the Lakers win? Tell you more about the Lakers or
[1:28:06] Speaker 1: the Rockets.
[1:28:07] Speaker 3: Um....
[1:28:09] Speaker 4: For me, I was watching the Lakers because we've been
[1:28:11] Speaker 4: waiting on, like, their role players to step up, get healthy.
[1:28:15] Speaker 4: So I feel like that was a good sign for
[1:28:16] Speaker 4: them that their bench guys were scoring the ball. That
[1:28:19] Speaker 4: was something that we talked about even last season was, like,
[1:28:22] Speaker 4: you put these bench guys on the court and they're
[1:28:24] Speaker 4: just not producing anything. So them being confident, Luca giving
[1:28:28] Speaker 4: them open shots, I think that's what they were missing.
[1:28:30] Speaker 4: And then Rui coming back was great for them, so.
[1:28:34] Speaker 4: Still not a Laker fan over here.
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: Getting close, though. Never.
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: I feel like we are converting both you guys slowly
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: but surely I will.
[1:28:40] Speaker 4: Never cheer for Lakers but.
[1:28:43] Speaker 2: See Lexi see I know we were here can't wait
[1:28:45] Speaker 2: to get all the sparks right talking crazy about LA
[1:28:48] Speaker 2: man that's.
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: Cool so Dorian Finney-Smith started some games for Lakers with
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: the injury issues going on came off the bench uh
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent came off the bench, they combined for 40 points,
[1:28:56] Speaker 1: hit 12 threes in that game.
[1:28:57] Speaker 4: When you play with someone like Luke, you just got
[1:28:58] Speaker 4: to be ready to shoot the ball.
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: They let the team score?
[1:29:01] Speaker 1: Luke had 20 as well. But do you trust the
[1:29:04] Speaker 1: Lakers bench to step up like this consistently? That has
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: been an issue plaguing the team this season. We know
[1:29:10] Speaker 1: you don't like the Lakers.
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: So you relying on them to make 12 threes a game?
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: You know. They don't need to. It's just one of them.
[1:29:18] Speaker 1: Let's be honest. No.
[1:29:19] Speaker 3: So, that's all I'm saying. But I don't think they're
[1:29:22] Speaker 3: going to get 12 threes.
[1:29:23] Speaker 2: I'm also not thinking Lucas.
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: Is going to have the 20-point game and the Browns
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: are going to have 16. Yeah.
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: Reeves ain't going to have what? Yeah, 12. Papa de Limon. So,
[1:29:31] Speaker 2: to match up the questions, did the Rockets... I didn't
[1:29:33] Speaker 2: watch the game. I just saw, like, some... Yeah. Did
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: the Rockets' defense have anything to do with this?
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: I'ma be honest with you, like watching that first half,
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: it was just a lot of missed shots from both sides.
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: Open shots.
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: What open shots, guys, just missing?
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: Just bricking. Like, you know what I mean? It wasn't
[1:29:48] Speaker 1: so much a defensive effort on that side where they
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: were locking down.
[1:29:51] Speaker 2: Second half, it opened up a little bit more.
[1:29:53] Speaker 4: He was on a back-to-back?
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on a second night of back-to-back. It
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: just smacked the Suns by 39 previously.
[1:29:58] Speaker 4: These playoffs are gonna be crazy.
[1:30:02] Speaker 2: They shouldn't have been tired. Young, young legs. Young legs.
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: Young legs.
[1:30:08] Speaker 2: Brooks got kicked out in the first quarter.
[1:30:09] Speaker 3: Are y'all serious? Brooks got kicked out in the first quarter.
[1:30:12] Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on.
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: What day was it?
[1:30:13] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: So, let's put it in perspective here. Short flight. Played
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: in Phoenix. What city you coming to? It's a good time.
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: I'm in L.A. It's a good city.
[1:30:22] Speaker 3: Your land?
[1:30:23] Speaker 2: Outside. Young guys? Boys outside when the plane landed, dog.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: Diligent, right to the hotel. Yeah.
[1:30:29] Speaker 2: Bible study, ice. Yes, yeah, absolutely.
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: Lakers on the schedule.
[1:30:32] Speaker 2: Yes, that, all of that. No, I'm just kidding.
[1:30:34] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
[1:30:35] Speaker 2: Some people, yes.
[1:30:36] Speaker 4: Bible study.
[1:30:37] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:30:38] Speaker 2: A few of them, a couple of them went to
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: the hotel. But L.A.
[1:30:41] Speaker 1: 's not cracking like that anymore. On Sunday night?
[1:30:44] Speaker 2: Is it still?
[1:30:45] Speaker 1: I haven't been out in a long time.
[1:30:46] Speaker 2: I have a 24-year-old son. Monday. Hey, I have a
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: 24-year-old son.
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: So it's still going on like that?
[1:30:53] Speaker 4: L.A.
[1:30:53] Speaker 2: Is still popping if you want to be popping. Right?
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: The Lucky Straits.
[1:30:57] Speaker 1: Okay, that is a great place to go.
[1:30:59] Speaker 2: Downtown where it's a club at night.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: But you can't get the ball.
[1:31:01] Speaker 3: You still bowl, but it's a club at night.
[1:31:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the one. I've heard of that.
[1:31:07] Speaker 1: I heard of that.
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: I heard a few other places. Got Sam's. Look, that's disgusting.
[1:31:12] Speaker 3: I'm talking about on a Monday night, though. There ain't
[1:31:14] Speaker 3: shit to do like that.
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: Sam's is awful.
[1:31:17] Speaker 3: When you're young, everything is.
[1:31:19] Speaker 1: Young, old, Sam's hair. They got in Sunday, had a
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: 6 p.m.
[1:31:22] Speaker 2: Game, I believe, in Phoenix. Sunday in L.A., they going out, man.
[1:31:30] Speaker 3: Our fight?
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: Few of them dudes was... Hey, man. Yeah. It looked
[1:31:36] Speaker 2: like that. Listen, the times don't change, man. Certain cities, certain...
[1:31:42] Speaker 2: You know who going out. You know what city it is.
[1:31:45] Speaker 4: They don't need to go out.
[1:31:46] Speaker 3: They in Houston, though. They don't need.
[1:31:48] Speaker 2: To go out. That sounds good, Lexi.
[1:31:52] Speaker 4: And they just came from Phoenix.
[1:31:54] Speaker 2: I played in New York. Guess what? I played in Jersey.
[1:31:58] Speaker 2: Four years there, two years in the city. Guess what?
[1:32:01] Speaker 2: Shit don't close in New York. When we go to Miami,
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: I'm excited.
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: Change the scenery.
[1:32:07] Speaker 2: Change the scenery. I seen them girls all the time.
[1:32:12] Speaker 2: I see them every Sunday in New York. I go
[1:32:16] Speaker 2: to Miami twice. We in L.A., you know what I'm saying?
[1:32:23] Speaker 2: Might be a back-to-back. They probably came in before and
[1:32:25] Speaker 2: probably had an early game or something. Didn't get to.
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: Next time we go back.
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: What, in April? Oh, shit. Does that stay on your
[1:32:33] Speaker 1: mind if you have to go to see and you
[1:32:34] Speaker 1: don't get to turn up quite like you want to?
[1:32:36] Speaker 1: Next time I come here, I'm going to.
[1:32:37] Speaker 3: Oh, look at the schedule, man.
[1:32:39] Speaker 4: That's how we were when Vegas got their team first.
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: We was all so excited.
[1:32:43] Speaker 2: See?
[1:32:43] Speaker 4: Now we hate it.
[1:32:44] Speaker 2: Now we hate it there.
[1:32:46] Speaker 3: Damn, Vegas.
[1:32:47] Speaker 4: But first year, we were like, where we go to?
[1:32:48] Speaker 4: I was in Connecticut, so I was excited about Vegas.
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: But Houston, a great city, has a thriving night.
[1:32:53] Speaker 2: It is, but they've been on the road.
[1:32:54] Speaker 1: Houston, all right.
[1:32:55] Speaker 2: They have been.
[1:32:56] Speaker 1: They've been on the road.
[1:32:57] Speaker 2: I like Houston more than Miami, though, sometimes. They were
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: in Phoenix for like three days, though.
[1:33:01] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[1:33:01] Speaker 2: See, some of them dudes vibe ain't Phoenix. Right? Phoenix
[1:33:05] Speaker 2: nice for some of them dudes. Things ain't divide for
[1:33:08] Speaker 2: some of the team. They probably, man, they just stay.
[1:33:13] Speaker 2: When you touch down in certain cities and you, I
[1:33:17] Speaker 2: don't know how the game look like, but you just
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: tell that time.
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: Obviously, I had ample time to prepare in that Suns
[1:33:23] Speaker 1: game with the 39-point lead. Game was decided early on.
[1:33:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got this one out the way.
[1:33:30] Speaker 1: Shit, where we at?
[1:33:31] Speaker 2: Let's go.
[1:33:32] Speaker 1: Where we at?
[1:33:34] Speaker 2: Where we at? I had the phone on the bench.
[1:33:36] Speaker 2: I don't know if they do it. I used to do.
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: That situation, we got that game in Phoenix and we
[1:33:42] Speaker 2: come here, I'm not going to the hotel. Oh no,
[1:33:46] Speaker 2: we got the car at Signature. When we get off
[1:33:49] Speaker 2: the plane, I got my carry-on. The only thing I
[1:33:52] Speaker 2: got with me is my carry-on. I'm not going to
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: the hotel. That's 45 minutes that I don't have to spare.
[1:34:00] Speaker 2: But they're young, though.
[1:34:01] Speaker 3: Some of them might have to, though. That's a young team.
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: I dig it.
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: But I'm just getting to say that I used to
[1:34:05] Speaker 2: work in our team. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: pull up, and there's seven SUVs parked out there.
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: And guess what?
[1:34:14] Speaker 4: And guess what?
[1:34:17] Speaker 2: We all going to the same place. Going to end
[1:34:20] Speaker 2: up at the same spot. There's seven, eight cars out there.
[1:34:22] Speaker 2: Niggas do not ride together. Not ride.
[1:34:25] Speaker 3: Might have a rookie with you. Might have a rookie
[1:34:28] Speaker 3: with you. Might have a rookie or a young guy.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: But if it's a vet, it might be one of,
[1:34:34] Speaker 1: it depends on the group.
[1:34:35] Speaker 2: It really do. That's how I got out of it.
[1:34:37] Speaker 1: Gil would let you ride with him?
[1:34:38] Speaker 3: That's how I got out of it.
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: That's the only way I could.
[1:34:42] Speaker 3: Not get on the bus and You know, the vet said, oh,
[1:34:46] Speaker 3: he coming with me.
[1:34:47] Speaker 2: Oh, you're like, yay. He get off that bus as
[1:34:50] Speaker 2: a rookie. What?
[1:34:51] Speaker 3: What?
[1:34:52] Speaker 4: Pack me up.
[1:34:54] Speaker 1: I'm going with him.
[1:34:55] Speaker 4: I'm going with Gil.
[1:34:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, chalk it up. So let's talk a little
[1:35:00] Speaker 1: bit more Rockets. Number two seed in the West. Recently
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: had a nine-game winning streak. Have won 12 of their
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: last 14 games. But should the Rockets be on upset
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: alert as the current number two seed in the West?
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: Depends on who finishes seven.
[1:35:16] Speaker 1: So right now you're looking at, honestly.
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: The Clippers are at seven.
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: It's a tight West, so you're looking at any combination
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: of anybody from Grizzlies, Warriors, Timberwolves, Clippers.
[1:35:26] Speaker 3: Upset.
[1:35:28] Speaker 2: I don't think it's... See, this is the difference with
[1:35:30] Speaker 2: this situation here. Whoever landed at two, the team that's
[1:35:34] Speaker 2: at seven could have been at two. The team that's
[1:35:36] Speaker 2: at five could have been at two. So it don't...
[1:35:38] Speaker 2: There's only one clear-cut... team in the West that we like.
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: OKC is the better team. But everybody else has been
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: fluctuating these last couple weeks. And people are going to
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: be jockeying right now to who they want to play
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: in the first round. So they might see something. They
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: might like, shoot, we got this. We think we might
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: match up better for this. Let's see how this go
[1:35:58] Speaker 2: this weekend. And we can plan for these games coming up.
[1:36:02] Speaker 2: So they might want to play whoever at 7. might
[1:36:05] Speaker 2: want to, oh, let's go to three. We might match
[1:36:07] Speaker 2: better at six. Let's not drop to this or, you
[1:36:10] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? But could be playing that game.
[1:36:13] Speaker 1: I think the final, I mean, we're seeing on this
[1:36:15] Speaker 1: home stretch getting to the end of the season, but
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: those final couple of games, we're going to see some.
[1:36:19] Speaker 4: It's going to be crazy.
[1:36:21] Speaker 1: We see it every year, but I think this year
[1:36:22] Speaker 1: in particular, you're going to have teams deliberately losing games
[1:36:27] Speaker 1: or playing like it's game seven in the finals trying
[1:36:28] Speaker 1: to get that matchup that they want.
[1:36:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. See coaches, wrestling players, too, making up.
[1:36:34] Speaker 3: Backbone the bruise back above.
[1:36:36] Speaker 2: All that breath The matchups in that first round dog
[1:36:41] Speaker 2: can make a break you yeah, you know that they
[1:36:43] Speaker 2: can make them matchups you feel like I know what
[1:36:47] Speaker 2: we probably Against them they probably like so it's probably
[1:36:51] Speaker 2: 3-1 and like the season series, but them three them
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: I We felt we could have got them, right?
[1:36:57] Speaker 1: So, Lakers Rockets currently 1-1, but, you know, amongst other teams.
[1:37:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, like, we feel we can get them, right? Or
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: we feel we match up better with this team. Or
[1:37:05] Speaker 2: I like our chance. Even though they got us, like,
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: they got the season series against us. I like our
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: chances against them, right? We get hot, we do this, somebody,
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: we get this going, we got them. Or we can
[1:37:16] Speaker 2: give ourselves a chance in it, so it's... That's why
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: we stand by Memphis. You see how close we stand
[1:37:21] Speaker 2: to Memphis?
[1:37:21] Speaker 1: Whatever Memphis do, we do.
[1:37:23] Speaker 2: Y'all win, we got to win.
[1:37:24] Speaker 3: They fired their coach, they tripping right now.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of teams are going to
[1:37:29] Speaker 1: want to try to get Memphis, which is close now,
[1:37:32] Speaker 1: depending on how this Warriors game goes tonight. I don't
[1:37:33] Speaker 1: want to play Warriors. They could drop.
[1:37:35] Speaker 4: I don't want to play Warriors or the Clippers. I
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: don't want to play Warriors. First round.
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: We were ready for whoever's swagging. We're going to have
[1:37:41] Speaker 2: to see it.
[1:37:41] Speaker 3: We'll win, but it'd be a hard first round.
[1:37:43] Speaker 2: Y'all ain't know it. Y'all ducking smoke?
[1:37:47] Speaker 1: No duck.
[1:37:47] Speaker 3: Nah, we'd rather see them second prize.
[1:37:49] Speaker 2: Y'all ducking smoke. I thought y'all was a real team
[1:37:52] Speaker 2: since y'all got Luka and all.
[1:37:53] Speaker 1: We are the Luka.
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: It'd be a blowout.
[1:37:56] Speaker 3: But, you know, who want to see Steph lose that fast?
[1:38:00] Speaker 1: We're trying to.
[1:38:01] Speaker 2: Help the money.
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: We're trying to help the league generate revenue.
[1:38:04] Speaker 2: I see the way you went with that. I see
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: how you... As it stands right now.
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: We need to see Golden State Lakers Western Conference Finals.
[1:38:11] Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen.
[1:38:12] Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. Unlikely, but... I mean, Lakers will be there,
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: but just depending on how the Warriors do. Hey, that
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: little light-skinned boy make it to the Western Conference final.
[1:38:19] Speaker 2: Y'all better look out. So Rockets currently second. Tell you
[1:38:22] Speaker 2: that shit right now. Playoff started today.
[1:38:24] Speaker 1: Rockets will be taking on the Timberwolves in the seventh spot.
[1:38:28] Speaker 4: Oh, they can beat them.
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: I think.
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: Say it again now.
[1:38:30] Speaker 4: I think they can beat the Timberwolves.
[1:38:32] Speaker 2: Rockets are second.
[1:38:33] Speaker 1: Timberwolves currently seventh.
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: That doesn't account for playing.
[1:38:35] Speaker 3: Nah, they ain't beating the Wolves. Wolves too.
[1:38:38] Speaker 1: Y'all play, yeah, yeah.
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: You seen them play last year?
[1:38:41] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:38:41] Speaker 3: The Wolves, to me, they got a star, so they,
[1:38:43] Speaker 3: and they a star.
[1:38:44] Speaker 2: I don't believe in them. You don't believe in them? Minnesota?
[1:38:48] Speaker 3: Nah.
[1:38:48] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[1:38:50] Speaker 2: No.
[1:38:52] Speaker 3: Nah.
[1:38:52] Speaker 4: Nah.
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: Dante just went at Isaiah like the toughest.
[1:38:56] Speaker 2: Dude in the league.
[1:38:56] Speaker 3: Like, what's up?
[1:38:58] Speaker 2: What's that got to do with the seven-game playoff series?
[1:39:00] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:39:01] Speaker 2: He ain't scared, man.
[1:39:02] Speaker 3: Isaiah was so scared, nigga had to grab his nuts
[1:39:05] Speaker 3: and shit.
[1:39:05] Speaker 1: He didn't have a screen grab of what looked like
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: a junk grabbing.
[1:39:12] Speaker 3: He was like, Dante, no. Just reached out and grabbed him.
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: Grab me little Dante. We asked the chat, will the
[1:39:21] Speaker 1: Rockets make it out of the first round? Thank you.
[1:39:24] Speaker 2: I like what we got.
[1:39:25] Speaker 1: Will the Rockets make it out of the first round?
[1:39:29] Speaker 1: And before I read the poll response, whoever in the
[1:39:32] Speaker 1: chat was saying Gil got deported by ICE.
[1:39:34] Speaker 3: That's... Damn.
[1:39:35] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:39:36] Speaker 4: You're just here in Brooklyn.
[1:39:37] Speaker 3: All right?
[1:39:38] Speaker 1: They got the McDonald's All-American game tonight.
[1:39:40] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[1:39:40] Speaker 1: They were full of shit. But I didn't feel like
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: that was particularly diabolical. I just had to give you
[1:39:44] Speaker 1: some love. But will the Rockets make it out the
[1:39:46] Speaker 1: first round? 65% of the chat says no. They do
[1:39:49] Speaker 1: not have faith in the Rockets squad.
[1:39:51] Speaker 4: Chat negative today.
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: Rockets got a top four defense in the league right now.
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: That's a regular season defense. I think they did show
[1:39:55] Speaker 1: some issues last night with their half-court offense. They've been
[1:39:59] Speaker 1: able to get a bucket. Obviously, the game slows down
[1:40:01] Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That translates, man. The defense translates more
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: than the offense. Half-court defense, because in the playoffs, it's
[1:40:06] Speaker 1: a half-court game. So if you're top four, you don't
[1:40:09] Speaker 1: have to try to rev your defense up or start
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: paying attention to detail now.
[1:40:15] Speaker 2: Every possession. So with them being fourth, I mean, they
[1:40:17] Speaker 2: then had good game plans night in, night out throughout
[1:40:21] Speaker 2: the regular season. Yeah. And you have a foundation to
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: go on now when the playoffs start.
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:40:28] Speaker 2: The match-ups, the end-of-game stuff, who you going to put in.
[1:40:30] Speaker 4: That means a lot.
[1:40:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, that means a lot. So they're buying in.
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: Does that mean more than half-court offense struggles, right? Can
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: that half-court defense get you.
[1:40:38] Speaker 2: Over the top? Take out of sets, man, because you're not,
[1:40:40] Speaker 2: by this point of the season, you're not putting in
[1:40:43] Speaker 2: new plays. You're not doing what, when the playoffs start,
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: you know what team's going to run, you know when
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: they're going to, it's just, it's a matter of, if guys...
[1:40:54] Speaker 2: are really better than you offensively? Are they making shots?
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: Are you going to make it difficult? Bring the ball
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: up the floor, take them out of sets. You know
[1:41:01] Speaker 2: they're trying to run. Top blocking situations where they're trying
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: to run a pin down. You're down in situations. I
[1:41:07] Speaker 2: think you can change defenses up. easier to fuck with
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: offense in the playoffs.
[1:41:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're going in playoffs trying to change your offense.
[1:41:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to happen. So I've been guarding
[1:41:19] Speaker 2: the pick and roll this way all season. I can
[1:41:20] Speaker 2: guard it this way.
[1:41:21] Speaker 4: That's how we won in Chicago. We changed our ball
[1:41:24] Speaker 4: screen defense in the finals.
[1:41:25] Speaker 2: That's what you got to do. Yeah. I'm changing up
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: out of every time out.
[1:41:31] Speaker 3: Oh.
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: That's what I think, Lex.
[1:41:33] Speaker 4: That's crazy.
[1:41:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:41:35] Speaker 4: Every time out?
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: I ain't saying we're going to stick with it. But
[1:41:38] Speaker 2: we might go back to the same defense.
[1:41:40] Speaker 4: Possession or two.
[1:41:41] Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a different look coming
[1:41:42] Speaker 2: out of that. Two and two split. I might run
[1:41:44] Speaker 2: at you. Oh, two and two? Might double the first pick.
[1:41:46] Speaker 3: There you go, seven.
[1:41:47] Speaker 4: Especially if you have a good defensive team.
[1:41:49] Speaker 3: You can do stuff like that.
[1:41:49] Speaker 1: Rockets and Wolves this season split the series two. Two
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: have not played since February 21st.
[1:41:53] Speaker 2: What's the margin of wins?
[1:41:56] Speaker 4: Is he healthy?
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: All the games were within seven points.
[1:42:00] Speaker 4: He only got hit the other day. He's fine. And
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: Edwards is fine. I don't know.
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: He appears to be.
[1:42:06] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: Dealing with some other things on the internet. Said, check
[1:42:12] Speaker 1: the internet. Shout out, John. I just thought, you probably
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: forgot about it. Check the internet. What about it?
[1:42:18] Speaker 2: Just tell me what happened.
[1:42:20] Speaker 4: What's going on on the internet? Check the internet. You
[1:42:23] Speaker 4: already know he got anxiety about that shit.
[1:42:26] Speaker 2: Check Twitter.
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: You seen the internet?
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[1:44:00] Speaker 1: But yesterday, a clip surfaced of a Mavs fan yelling,
[1:44:03] Speaker 1: fire Nico, right in Nico Harris' face. We have that
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: along with security's reaction a few moments later. Let's take
[1:44:12] Speaker 1: a look.
[1:44:12] Speaker 3: Fire Nico!
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: Fire Nico!
[1:44:17] Speaker 1: Fire Nico!
[1:44:19] Speaker 3: People have lost their minds.
[1:44:26] Speaker 4: Who's that? That's a player?
[1:44:28] Speaker 2: That appears to be.
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: A security guard who apparently has an allegiance to Nico
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: Harrison was not feeling the.
[1:44:33] Speaker 2: Fire Nico jersey.
[1:44:34] Speaker 3: Look at the jersey, though. Fire Nico!
[1:44:37] Speaker 1: With the Luka jersey on, just to add insult. He
[1:44:41] Speaker 1: shouldn't have got all up in that fan space. But,
[1:44:44] Speaker 1: question for you guys. What will it take for Mavs
[1:44:46] Speaker 1: fans to get past their beef with Nico Harrison? Is
[1:44:50] Speaker 1: it eternal?
[1:44:50] Speaker 2: Fired. Forever.
[1:44:51] Speaker 4: He gotta go.
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:44:54] Speaker 4: I personally don't want him to get fired, obviously, but, like, that...
[1:44:58] Speaker 4: They're never going to forgive him for that, ever.
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saying it. It's like the Grinch that
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: stole Christmas, dog.
[1:45:07] Speaker 4: You're going to have to bring them someone else. They're
[1:45:10] Speaker 4: going to have to bring in Zion or something.
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: They brought Anthony Marshawn Davis.
[1:45:15] Speaker 4: Clearly they don't care.
[1:45:16] Speaker 3: Max Christie, in a first-round pick for the Lakers.
[1:45:19] Speaker 1: I've never seen fans.
[1:45:21] Speaker 4: Respond to a trade like this for this long.
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: They're going to get the Lakers' 30th pick down the road.
[1:45:28] Speaker 2: Bruh. They got to do something.
[1:45:30] Speaker 4: The fact that Nico, I can respect the fact that
[1:45:33] Speaker 4: he's still just walking around like he don't care. When
[1:45:37] Speaker 4: he was at the Laker game, right on the bench.
[1:45:39] Speaker 2: Rubbing it in their faces like, yeah, I traded that motherfucker.
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: You're walking around with the Mavs arena. Everywhere you go
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: in Dallas, nobody's rocking with you.
[1:45:47] Speaker 4: He's like enemy number one in Dallas.
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: They're not even rocking with you at medieval times.
[1:45:52] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: And he's not even... He's still.
[1:45:54] Speaker 2: Going to Medieval Times. He is definitely public enemy number
[1:45:57] Speaker 2: one in Dallas.
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: A fire Nico chain at Medieval Times is extremely debatable.
[1:46:01] Speaker 4: Who is still going to Medieval Times?
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: A great source of entertainment.
[1:46:05] Speaker 4: I used to go there all the time in Orlando.
[1:46:06] Speaker 2: When I was a kid.
[1:46:08] Speaker 1: For those who love jousting.
[1:46:09] Speaker 2: I ain't been there.
[1:46:10] Speaker 1: Archery.
[1:46:11] Speaker 2: Kids, man.
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: That's crazy.
[1:46:14] Speaker 2: Birthday parties and all that's still going on.
[1:46:16] Speaker 4: Really?
[1:46:17] Speaker 3: They got one out here?
[1:46:18] Speaker 4: Do they like upgrade the show or something?
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: They have Medieval Times in Anaheim. And like a Pirates
[1:46:22] Speaker 1: version of it right next door.
[1:46:23] Speaker 4: I wonder if the show's better than it was. It's
[1:46:26] Speaker 4: the same. The big old turkey leg thing.
[1:46:29] Speaker 2: There's only two things going to fix this. They win
[1:46:33] Speaker 2: the championship or they fire Nico. I don't even think.
[1:46:37] Speaker 4: A championship will make them happy.
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: It has to be now, though. They want their bitch
[1:46:43] Speaker 2: this year.
[1:46:43] Speaker 1: If they won a championship this year, they'll fire Nico.
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: That's the only thing that will make it right.
[1:46:49] Speaker 4: I don't... I don't know. I don't think so.
[1:46:50] Speaker 2: What if they get, like, a high draft pick?
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: It don't matter.
[1:46:53] Speaker 3: They get Cooper Flagg, you forget about Luka.
[1:46:55] Speaker 4: No, they're not.
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: Shit.
[1:46:58] Speaker 4: They thought Luka was gonna retire.
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: This boy is.
[1:47:00] Speaker 4: No, they didn't. There's no way they thought that. Let
[1:47:02] Speaker 4: me take that back.
[1:47:03] Speaker 2: Five first-team All-NBAs.
[1:47:05] Speaker 1: Bruh.
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: This boy is the future.
[1:47:07] Speaker 4: They thought that he was at least going to bring
[1:47:08] Speaker 4: them a championship.
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: Before he did.
[1:47:11] Speaker 2: Even if he didn't.
[1:47:13] Speaker 4: He got to the finals in the first six years, man.
[1:47:15] Speaker 4: He got to the finals last year, then you're going
[1:47:19] Speaker 4: to ship him away to the damn Lakers.
[1:47:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:47:23] Speaker 3: Man, they get somebody that's something you kind of forget.
[1:47:26] Speaker 3: You kind of not forget, but you put a, like, ooh.
[1:47:30] Speaker 3: I don't know. He needs some love.
[1:47:31] Speaker 4: There's going to be a dark cloud over the Mavericks forever.
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: If it makes Nico feel any better, Lakers fans give
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: him a thank you, Nico.
[1:47:37] Speaker 2: Kyrie got hurt.
[1:47:39] Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I think he got a job over
[1:47:41] Speaker 3: here if he wants.
[1:47:42] Speaker 1: We love Nico in Los Angeles.
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: For sure could get moved up in the office.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: You can't be the GM. You can't make decisions here,
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: but you can hang out.
[1:47:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hang out.
[1:47:54] Speaker 1: You can hang out.
[1:47:57] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:47:58] Speaker 2: That's the public enemy number one down there.
[1:48:02] Speaker 1: And given, obviously, the magnitude of that trade and the
[1:48:04] Speaker 1: fallout as a result of it, they got to expect
[1:48:07] Speaker 1: that these fired Niko chants are not going to make
[1:48:11] Speaker 1: the playoffs. So are you okay with Mavs security coming
[1:48:13] Speaker 1: after fans who voiced their displeasure with Niko? Like that, like,
[1:48:18] Speaker 1: all right, we hear you, bro. The first two fire
[1:48:21] Speaker 1: Niko's were fine. I think the longer one was... Why
[1:48:25] Speaker 1: you can't say that, though?
[1:48:26] Speaker 4: Well, now you're becoming like a disturbance to everybody around you.
[1:48:31] Speaker 2: You knew you were going to hear that. Why are
[1:48:32] Speaker 2: you coming out there shaking hands?
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: If you see a portly gentleman in a Luka Doncic jersey.
[1:48:38] Speaker 3: I'd be scared to shake somebody's hand from Niko.
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: I'm telling you, he don't care.
[1:48:42] Speaker 2: He don't care.
[1:48:43] Speaker 3: Smiling and shit. But the security probably got some money
[1:48:46] Speaker 3: out of it. Niko gave him a tip. That was
[1:48:48] Speaker 3: a tip.
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: A tip. Don't trade Luka.
[1:48:51] Speaker 3: I got.
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: To.
[1:48:55] Speaker 3: You ever a GM?
[1:48:57] Speaker 1: You got a generational Slovenian.
[1:48:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[1:49:00] Speaker 4: Generational.
[1:49:02] Speaker 2: We're in LA.
[1:49:03] Speaker 3: What can they do, though? Like, you got them to
[1:49:05] Speaker 3: trade somebody. I don't even feel like winning a chip.
[1:49:08] Speaker 3: But like you stated before, Joe, it's the.
[1:49:13] Speaker 2: Okay, we traded Luka, which is fucked up. We don't
[1:49:17] Speaker 2: like it. We know what we got back. and we
[1:49:24] Speaker 2: know the history of what we got back. And we
[1:49:28] Speaker 2: didn't get no picks for this shit. Like we didn't
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: get nothing, like just, so had it been one of them,
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: the Minnesota-Utah trades or some shit like that where they
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: got multiple first round for the next, for this team's
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: first round, then it's like, not.
[1:49:45] Speaker 4: It stings less.
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: It stings less, I think, than, damn, they took advantage
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: of us. Like, damn, Nico, really? And you gave up
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: your future for this motherfucker that can't stay healthy and
[1:49:58] Speaker 2: this other guy and one pick?
[1:50:02] Speaker 1: And he got hurt all the matter already?
[1:50:06] Speaker 2: You know it's bad.
[1:50:08] Speaker 4: First day of work.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: I think he's like 4-0 since he be back, but
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: you know it's bad when the trade gets announced and
[1:50:14] Speaker 1: nobody believes.
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: That this is what?
[1:50:16] Speaker 1: If it's five firsts in there or whatever, then it's like, okay,
[1:50:18] Speaker 1: that's believable.
[1:50:19] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:50:19] Speaker 1: You read it for what it.
[1:50:20] Speaker 2: Is, like, huh?
[1:50:21] Speaker 4: It's like a whole line.
[1:50:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:50:23] Speaker 1: That looks weird right now.
[1:50:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why, like, somebody has that.
[1:50:26] Speaker 1: Well, Eddie's been back in the lineup. He's been playing well.
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: Mavs. Sean's had to say, no, this is real. Like,
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: Sean's had to say, like, no, this is real. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[1:50:33] Speaker 1: Eddie might be 4-1 now.
[1:50:34] Speaker 2: This is a for real thing.
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: That was crazy. I thought it was made up.
[1:50:39] Speaker 2: So let's talk about it from the— April Fool's before
[1:50:41] Speaker 2: April Fool's.
[1:50:42] Speaker 1: Which is April Fool's today. We have not pulled any
[1:50:44] Speaker 1: chicanery on you guys watching on the show. I think
[1:50:47] Speaker 1: we're a little too old for that. We do have
[1:50:48] Speaker 1: a million subs now, so we got to move a
[1:50:49] Speaker 1: little bit differently. Right. Just how it goes here. It
[1:50:54] Speaker 1: gives a represent about underdog. Yeah, that's some foul and shit.
[1:50:57] Speaker 1: That's some foul and shit. Yeah, you know, that's the
[1:51:01] Speaker 1: thousand subs. Speaking of the trade, Anthony Davis recently spoke
[1:51:06] Speaker 1: to Mark Spears of Anscape, opened up about the trade
[1:51:09] Speaker 1: to the Mavs. Here are a few quotes from A.D.,
[1:51:13] Speaker 1: He said, I'm great. I don't feel it. But a
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: lot of people have been coming to me and telling
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: me they haven't seen me smile like this in a
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: long time. Obviously, the first maybe 48 hours, it was
[1:51:24] Speaker 1: just a shock because I wasn't expecting it. Nobody was
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: expecting it. So they say. So they say.
[1:51:31] Speaker 4: So they say.
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: But I know from my side, my team, and my family,
[1:51:36] Speaker 1: and everybody who works with me, I wasn't expecting it.
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: Even when I was getting some of the calls, about
[1:51:41] Speaker 1: the trade. I thought guys were playing. AD went on
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: to say, I know what Luka meant to the Mavs organization,
[1:51:47] Speaker 1: to the team. So it's like, what do I say
[1:51:49] Speaker 1: to these guys coming in as a new leader and
[1:51:51] Speaker 1: trying to lead these guys to do something special? And
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: for them, it's like, shit, he just went through probably
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: the biggest trade in sports history. What do we say
[1:52:00] Speaker 1: to him? I'm happy, man. Happy, I get to play.
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: But want to go back to Keith and he said,
[1:52:06] Speaker 1: nobody was expecting it.
[1:52:08] Speaker 4: So they say.
[1:52:08] Speaker 2: So they say.
[1:52:10] Speaker 4: You're not rolling.
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: I don't know who it was.
[1:52:13] Speaker 1: But should AD feel betrayed by the Lakers for getting
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: traded for Luka?
[1:52:17] Speaker 3: Hell no. He should.
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: Like, should I trade myself for Luka?
[1:52:22] Speaker 3: Come on, man. It's Luka we talking about here.
[1:52:24] Speaker 1: Only got to give up this to get Luka?
[1:52:26] Speaker 3: Right. He can't be mad at that.
[1:52:30] Speaker 1: But Lexi, in your opinion, should AD feel betrayed? Obviously
[1:52:32] Speaker 1: won a championship with the Lakers, was having a great
[1:52:34] Speaker 1: season this year.
[1:52:35] Speaker 4: Betrayed? No. But his feelings of being, like, bamboozled... caught
[1:52:41] Speaker 4: off guard are valid.
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, I see shock.
[1:52:44] Speaker 4: But betrayed, like you said, it's Luca.
[1:52:47] Speaker 2: It's Luca.
[1:52:47] Speaker 3: I feel shocked. Like, damn, that really happened?
[1:52:50] Speaker 2: Would you feel proud? Like, he really got Luca? I'm him.
[1:52:54] Speaker 4: I mean, he seems to be excited about the new opportunity.
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: And then to him talking about he hasn't smiled, I'm like,
[1:52:59] Speaker 4: were you miserable in L.A.? Were you not smiling.
[1:53:01] Speaker 1: In L.A.? Because it's a great city, in my opinion.
[1:53:03] Speaker 3: He was smiling all the time around LeBron.
[1:53:05] Speaker 2: So they say. So they say. So they say.
[1:53:11] Speaker 4: So it was interesting that he said that. People haven't
[1:53:14] Speaker 4: seen me smile like this in a long time because
[1:53:18] Speaker 4: he was telling everybody how happy he was playing in L.A.
[1:53:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, yeah, it could be, because we
[1:53:22] Speaker 3: would have never seen AD. He would have been done
[1:53:24] Speaker 3: for the season if that happened to him out here.
[1:53:27] Speaker 3: He came back when they ain't got a chance to
[1:53:30] Speaker 3: make it. Played in the G League, probably.
[1:53:35] Speaker 4: He didn't actually play a game in there, did he?
[1:53:37] Speaker 4: He didn't actually play a G.
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: League game, did he? He got assigned to the G League.
[1:53:41] Speaker 2: His name was mentioned with it, so.
[1:53:43] Speaker 1: He got an assignment, but let's shift over to this
[1:53:46] Speaker 1: side of the couch. K, should AD Phil be traded
[1:53:48] Speaker 1: by the Lakers for getting traded for Luka?
[1:53:55] Speaker 2: To a certain degree, yeah. To your point, Joe, you
[1:53:59] Speaker 2: just made, like, got a championship here.
[1:54:02] Speaker 3: I thought.
[1:54:06] Speaker 2: We were building something me and the other guy and
[1:54:10] Speaker 2: preaching that y'all want me to be number one when
[1:54:13] Speaker 2: he's done.
[1:54:13] Speaker 1: Taking the keys.
[1:54:14] Speaker 2: Taking the keys and all these feel-good words. But to
[1:54:22] Speaker 2: eventually be basically in the middle of the night. If
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: you're going to do it, like, they had a right
[1:54:34] Speaker 2: to make the trade, right? But inform the guy. That's all.
[1:54:41] Speaker 2: Still go through with it. Just don't let me hear
[1:54:45] Speaker 2: it through my agent. Like, they got a relationship, we this,
[1:54:49] Speaker 2: we that, like, nah. Like, Rob called me, bruh. Would
[1:54:52] Speaker 2: that mess up the trade?
[1:54:54] Speaker 1: No.
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: If you just call.
[1:54:55] Speaker 4: The trade already happened.
[1:54:56] Speaker 2: The trade is already going down. You already doing it,
[1:54:59] Speaker 2: and if Rob Pelinka picks up the phone and calls
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, and if Nico picks up the phone and
[1:55:05] Speaker 2: calls Luca... And let, like, it's that part of it.
[1:55:09] Speaker 4: Like, they didn't speak to either one of them.
[1:55:11] Speaker 2: It's that part of it that make them guys feel
[1:55:14] Speaker 2: these ways. When Luka pressed conference here, the way he
[1:55:17] Speaker 2: looked at, like, it's that. It's that betrayal. He's still betrayed.
[1:55:21] Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Anthony Davis.
[1:55:23] Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
[1:55:24] Speaker 2: I won the championship. Luka ain't won no championship.
[1:55:26] Speaker 3: But still, at the same time, you probably hearing this, like, oh,
[1:55:29] Speaker 3: let me make sure to get this shit over with
[1:55:31] Speaker 3: before they change their mind. I ain't thinking about calling
[1:55:33] Speaker 3: no AD. It's already going down. I hear Luka, once
[1:55:36] Speaker 3: we agreed on it, Right?
[1:55:39] Speaker 2: Once teams have agreed on it, next call. Rob called
[1:55:47] Speaker 2: fucking Anthony Davis. Nico called Luka Doncic. And listen, this
[1:55:52] Speaker 2: is what just happened. This is what's going on right now.
[1:55:56] Speaker 2: I wanted you to hear it from me.
[1:55:58] Speaker 4: A trade like this, neither one of them got spoken to.
[1:56:01] Speaker 1: And wish you nothing but the best moving forward. I
[1:56:03] Speaker 1: think within 48 hours, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
[1:56:06] Speaker 1: Rich Paul, like, the agents started to be alerted about
[1:56:09] Speaker 1: it once it got close to being finalized. And I
[1:56:11] Speaker 1: don't think you want to tell them too far in
[1:56:13] Speaker 1: advance because if it don't work, AD's pissed off for
[1:56:15] Speaker 1: the rest.
[1:56:15] Speaker 3: Of the year.
[1:56:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wait till it's going. You give them
[1:56:17] Speaker 2: the news, I say, once it's agreed on, right? Once
[1:56:20] Speaker 2: the trade is agreed on and we didn't got the
[1:56:22] Speaker 2: league involved, we didn't call the league, we didn't do it,
[1:56:24] Speaker 2: I do dealings in that regard. then the next call
[1:56:27] Speaker 2: should be them. I don't think the avoidance of the
[1:56:30] Speaker 2: player when, quote-unquote, these players have meant so much to y'all.
[1:56:37] Speaker 2: So Anthony Davis helped you win the championship. He's supposed
[1:56:39] Speaker 2: to have been this for y'all. Luka's supposed to have
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: been meant. Just a simple phone call would have, like
[1:56:47] Speaker 2: you said, lessened the sting, lessened the blow a little bit.
[1:56:50] Speaker 2: Still going to hurt. Still going to be like, damn,
[1:56:52] Speaker 2: I can't believe they.
[1:56:53] Speaker 3: But.
[1:56:54] Speaker 2: You gave me a heads up that this is what
[1:56:56] Speaker 2: was going on.
[1:56:57] Speaker 4: I can see that, but the fact that neither one
[1:56:59] Speaker 4: of them got a call is crazy.
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: They got to be set in stone first.
[1:57:03] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:57:03] Speaker 2: Let it be set in stone, then give me the call.
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: Maybe disrespect might be a better word than betrayed.
[1:57:09] Speaker 1: Disrespect, yeah.
[1:57:12] Speaker 2: I like to go for the.
[1:57:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, you're dramatic.
[1:57:14] Speaker 1: Tension grabbers.
[1:57:15] Speaker 2: I'm a dramatic human being.
[1:57:16] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, should AD feel betrayed by
[1:57:18] Speaker 1: the Lakers? 53% said yes. Well, that lets you know, though.
[1:57:20] Speaker 2: 53% said yes, 47% said no.
[1:57:23] Speaker 1: And like I'm saying, if I'm AD and I got
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: traded for Luka, and damn, you know, I'll be salty
[1:57:27] Speaker 1: if it's like, damn, y'all gave away five first picks
[1:57:29] Speaker 1: in three seconds and all this other stuff. Like, what
[1:57:31] Speaker 1: about me?
[1:57:32] Speaker 4: You ain't get traded for, like, peanuts.
[1:57:34] Speaker 2: I ain't special. Just me for Luka, basically. That shit
[1:57:36] Speaker 2: don't matter.
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: You don't care about that other?
[1:57:39] Speaker 2: Hell no. Who I got traded for? You traded me. Yeah.
[1:57:44] Speaker 2: You don't want me thinking about that part, yeah.
[1:57:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, really? No. But it's one thing if
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: I get traded for five first round picks versus I
[1:57:53] Speaker 1: get traded for five second round picks.
[1:57:54] Speaker 2: It don't matter.
[1:57:55] Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm only worth. But that could be
[1:57:59] Speaker 1: five brownies, so you never know.
[1:58:00] Speaker 2: I understand how you think.
[1:58:01] Speaker 4: There you go.
[1:58:03] Speaker 1: But now we heard AD drop a subtle so they say,
[1:58:06] Speaker 1: or not so subtle. Obviously he said it. Nobody expected it,
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: so they say. When discussing if anyone knew about the trade,
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: Mark Spears asked Eddie how his relationship with LeBron has
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: been since the trade. Here was A.D. 's response. He said,
[1:58:20] Speaker 1: ain't no change for me. It's a business. People are
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: saying that LeBron knew of the trade because of the
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: Marcus Morris quote saying that James knew. That comes out
[1:58:29] Speaker 1: LeBron is saying he don't. At this point, whether he
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: knew or not, or whoever knew, or it was quiet
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: when Shams dropped the news, it doesn't matter who knew.
[1:58:39] Speaker 2: It happened, I think.
[1:58:41] Speaker 4: What did Marcus Morris say?
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: So I think there was a point where LeBron had
[1:58:44] Speaker 1: basically asked for Marcus Morris in the trade, but LeBron
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: said he was at the crib. Oh, and the news
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: went down, and he.
[1:58:53] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:58:54] Speaker 1: It's mafia shit, you know what I mean? You know
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
[1:58:57] Speaker 4: It's a business.
[1:58:58] Speaker 1: I'm never going to give you the heads up. I'm
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: just going to invite you to a meeting at the crib.
[1:59:02] Speaker 1: Let you walk through the door and figure it out.
[1:59:03] Speaker 2: Let me read this.
[1:59:05] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. So the Morris twins said? Brian said that?
[1:59:08] Speaker 1: So a report came out that Brian had asked for
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: Marcus Morris as a part of the deal.
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: Damn, see, but Brian got to start talking to him.
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:59:18] Speaker 3: Of course Brian knew.
[1:59:22] Speaker 4: You think he knew for real?
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: Not that far ahead.
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: You do?
[1:59:25] Speaker 2: I think he knew. Hell yeah.
[1:59:27] Speaker 3: I think he knew once they was about to lock
[1:59:30] Speaker 3: it in. I don't think he knew that far ahead.
[1:59:33] Speaker 2: It ain't like you trading this boy for nothing. Like,
[1:59:37] Speaker 2: if you just trading Anthony Davis for... Yeah. Huh?
[1:59:43] Speaker 4: So, when did you think he found out? When it
[1:59:46] Speaker 4: was done already?
[1:59:47] Speaker 2: Before it was done.
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: Before it was done?
[1:59:49] Speaker 2: Absolutely. When they picked the phone up to get ready?
[1:59:52] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:59:53] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: Really and we're just but we look at obviously no
[1:59:58] Speaker 1: no blindsided by he was But you gotta.
[2:00:01] Speaker 4: Think it was done and then the first call was.
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: They call him the GM Yeah, I feel like it okay.
[2:00:07] Speaker 2: We make this move. I don't think it's okay.
[2:00:09] Speaker 4: What are we doing? It was already done, but this.
[2:00:13] Speaker 2: Is what's about the transpire.
[2:00:15] Speaker 4: How do you feel about this? That was cool.
[2:00:17] Speaker 3: All right, here you go.
[2:00:18] Speaker 2: We got it for you. This is what's about to transpire.
[2:00:22] Speaker 1: Would you ever want to play with me?
[2:00:23] Speaker 4: Would you ever want to play with Luka?
[2:00:25] Speaker 2: How about right now?
[2:00:25] Speaker 4: Oh, really?
[2:00:27] Speaker 2: Who are we getting back? Make sure Mark's Morris in it.
[2:00:32] Speaker 2: I think Markeith, right? Make sure Markeith Morris in it, right? Yeah,
[2:00:37] Speaker 2: it's probably like this.
[2:00:38] Speaker 3: We got to get somebody.
[2:00:39] Speaker 2: They probably said this. They probably said PJ Washington. He
[2:00:41] Speaker 2: was like, nah, I get it. I'm just saying, I
[2:00:43] Speaker 2: don't know. Could have been. I wasn't there. Yeah. No,
[2:00:47] Speaker 2: not P.J.
[2:00:48] Speaker 1: And Keith and Luka know they have a good relationship.
[2:00:50] Speaker 2: It's hypothetical. I wasn't there. I'm just putting words in
[2:00:53] Speaker 2: the man's mouth. I ain't saying he's there. If it
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: was Luka and P.J.
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: For ADR.
[2:00:57] Speaker 2: Oh, Niko would have been.
[2:00:59] Speaker 3: Out of there.
[2:01:00] Speaker 2: Just blow Dallas up. Yeah, I think LeBron knew, to
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: be honest.
[2:01:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:01:07] Speaker 2: I really do.
[2:01:07] Speaker 1: And that's But that's a tough spot for him to
[2:01:10] Speaker 1: be in. But again, it's Luka Doncic.
[2:01:13] Speaker 2: I think the only situation that he's been in that
[2:01:14] Speaker 2: he had no say-so and control in was that situation
[2:01:17] Speaker 2: in Miami.
[2:01:19] Speaker 1: When they took his cookies?
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: Just the whole Pat Rodgers situation. That's the only situation
[2:01:24] Speaker 2: I think since he's become him that he's known every
[2:01:29] Speaker 2: move the team was going to make. I don't know.
[2:01:32] Speaker 4: Do you think people would have been like... The.
[2:01:34] Speaker 2: Cleveland team, the team that won the championship, you don't
[2:01:37] Speaker 2: think he orchestrated that shit?
[2:01:40] Speaker 3: What if they would have told LeBron, LeBron would.
[2:01:43] Speaker 2: Have been like, hell no, don't do that. AD my homie, AD.
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: And then it came out later that he stopped it.
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: He stopped it. I don't think it happens.
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: Well, LeBron, a savvy individual.
[2:01:55] Speaker 2: He's trying to give the keys to somebody.
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[2:01:58] Speaker 4: I feel like AD didn't get to feel it, so
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: he's probably.
[2:02:00] Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you don't think I can get the keys anymore?
[2:02:03] Speaker 3: I got to.
[2:02:04] Speaker 2: Who's going to turn that down?
[2:02:05] Speaker 4: You don't want to give me the keys anymore?
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: But that's the tough part.
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: I don't want to average 27, 7, and 7. Friendships
[2:02:11] Speaker 2: from business, right? You do, yeah. I want to average, motherfucker, 22, 2,
[2:02:18] Speaker 2: and 2.
[2:02:18] Speaker 3: And that's why I feel like at the end of
[2:02:20] Speaker 3: the day, you got to understand, that's AD. I mean,
[2:02:22] Speaker 3: that's Luca. You know, he's younger. Yeah.
[2:02:25] Speaker 2: That's Luca. So that's why when they informed him, he's like, absolutely.
[2:02:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:02:32] Speaker 2: And you see, like, the progress already.
[2:02:35] Speaker 4: I mean, like, yeah, if he wasn't down for it,
[2:02:37] Speaker 4: it wouldn't have happened.
[2:02:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
[2:02:39] Speaker 4: Whether he knew before or after, they had to get it.
[2:02:43] Speaker 4: They had to run.
[2:02:44] Speaker 2: It by him. During the first initial cup of coffee,
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: he said when they presented it, no. When the shit
[2:02:50] Speaker 2: got real, when it was about to go down, they
[2:02:53] Speaker 2: called that man.
[2:02:54] Speaker 3: Nah, I think we can get Luca. What you think
[2:02:58] Speaker 3: was his first words?
[2:02:59] Speaker 2: Shit, yeah.
[2:03:01] Speaker 3: You probably said, huh?
[2:03:01] Speaker 2: Give it to everybody.
[2:03:02] Speaker 3: Huh?
[2:03:03] Speaker 2: That's all they want?
[2:03:04] Speaker 3: What?
[2:03:05] Speaker 4: That's all they want?
[2:03:06] Speaker 3: They throw in somebody else just to make it, dress
[2:03:08] Speaker 3: it up a little bit more.
[2:03:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, put some more makeup. Yeah, yeah. Put some more
[2:03:11] Speaker 2: makeup on this pig.
[2:03:16] Speaker 3: Make them feel like they're getting something.
[2:03:19] Speaker 2: This divine swan.
[2:03:20] Speaker 3: Like, y'all say shit like, I really don't want to
[2:03:23] Speaker 3: do this, but I'd throw in, you know, Christy, too,
[2:03:26] Speaker 3: if you want to.
[2:03:28] Speaker 2: I don't really want to do it. But if you insist, right?
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: You really want to.
[2:03:34] Speaker 3: Y'all can't have him.
[2:03:35] Speaker 2: What else you need?
[2:03:40] Speaker 1: I would love to see how those combos go down
[2:03:42] Speaker 1: between G's.
[2:03:42] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[2:03:43] Speaker 1: Because Nico calls Rob initially. They're just talking as friends.
[2:03:45] Speaker 1: I would have loved him to.
[2:03:46] Speaker 4: Climb the wall when this shit was popping off because what?
[2:03:49] Speaker 1: I give you Luca, you give me AD. Like, nigga,
[2:03:51] Speaker 1: are you stupid?
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: That got to have its own show.
[2:03:54] Speaker 3: For real, that got to be its own show right there.
[2:03:56] Speaker 1: Well, if you insist. We really prioritizing defense.
[2:04:01] Speaker 3: Okay. We just missing AD.
[2:04:05] Speaker 1: So we hear people, players, former and current, talk about
[2:04:08] Speaker 1: the business side, right? Dealing with the business side. You
[2:04:10] Speaker 1: guys have all dealt with the business side of the
[2:04:12] Speaker 1: league during your careers. How long did it take you
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: to come to grips with the business side of basketball?
[2:04:19] Speaker 4: After my second season.
[2:04:20] Speaker 3: Damn.
[2:04:24] Speaker 4: After my third season.
[2:04:26] Speaker 2: That's when you won it, after you won a championship?
[2:04:28] Speaker 4: That's when I got waved in the off-season.
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: Ooh.
[2:04:32] Speaker 4: But no conversation. I still don't know why they waved me. Yeah,
[2:04:36] Speaker 4: so when that happened, I was like.
[2:04:38] Speaker 2: No convo? Did you see these people after, down the road?
[2:04:42] Speaker 4: Oh, no, they'd be ducking me.
[2:04:44] Speaker 2: Duck, is it a plague?
[2:04:45] Speaker 4: Ooh. I actually had an interaction with one of the
[2:04:50] Speaker 4: people from the organization... and we were leaving shoot around
[2:04:54] Speaker 4: and we crossed paths and I walked right past her.
[2:04:58] Speaker 4: And then she was like, you're not gonna speak? And
[2:05:01] Speaker 4: I was like, did y'all speak to me? When y'all
[2:05:03] Speaker 4: cut me two years ago?
[2:05:06] Speaker 2: Did you say that? Yeah.
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: Did you add any choice language in there?
[2:05:09] Speaker 4: No, but she was just like, you know, it wasn't
[2:05:11] Speaker 4: my call and we handled that poorly. I'm like, all right, cool,
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: we cool now.
[2:05:16] Speaker 3: Some people just get hit with strays.
[2:05:17] Speaker 2: But we're not cool, though.
[2:05:19] Speaker 4: But I'm like, whatever, because she even didn't have it.
[2:05:20] Speaker 2: Because our relationship, so our relationship should have nothing to
[2:05:23] Speaker 2: do with the decision they made.
[2:05:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm like, I said, you still could have
[2:05:26] Speaker 4: hit me later.
[2:05:28] Speaker 2: After the fact, they made the decision already.
[2:05:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, like, it happened, you didn't say nothing, and I
[2:05:32] Speaker 4: was like, that was weird.
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: That's a cop-out.
[2:05:34] Speaker 4: So she's like, it was just above me.
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: I said, okay, whatever, girl.
[2:05:37] Speaker 2: That's cool.
[2:05:38] Speaker 4: But yeah, she's like, you're not going to speak? I
[2:05:40] Speaker 4: was like, no.
[2:05:42] Speaker 2: On business. But some people don't like confrontation, too. Some
[2:05:46] Speaker 2: people like to have that conversation.
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: You can't not like confrontation and then disrespect people. Like,
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: you can't do that. If you're going to be disrespectful
[2:05:53] Speaker 4: and make disrespectful choices, you've got to be ready to
[2:05:56] Speaker 4: be confronted at some point.
[2:05:58] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
[2:06:01] Speaker 4: Like, walk around like this big bully, da-da-da-da, and then
[2:06:04] Speaker 4: they don't want to have a conversation with nobody.
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:06:08] Speaker 4: But yeah, I was training. I was having the best
[2:06:10] Speaker 4: off-season training. The bubble had just finished. And I was like, okay,
[2:06:16] Speaker 4: when is training camp plans happening? And it was just crickets.
[2:06:20] Speaker 4: So they cut me like a week before training camp.
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: Oh, you text that?
[2:06:24] Speaker 4: I had to ask my agent. I said, what's going on?
[2:06:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
[2:06:28] Speaker 4: And I was like, can you find out what is happening?
[2:06:30] Speaker 4: And they were like, oh yeah, we're going to cut
[2:06:32] Speaker 4: her a week before.
[2:06:34] Speaker 1: Oh, by the way.
[2:06:35] Speaker 4: A week before we had to report to camp.
[2:06:37] Speaker 2: Oh, damn, we meant to call, y'all. Damn.
[2:06:39] Speaker 4: And it was crazy, too, because it was the first
[2:06:42] Speaker 4: season after COVID, so we had all these protocols that
[2:06:44] Speaker 4: we had to go through. And I was like, I
[2:06:47] Speaker 4: had nowhere to go to training camp at. One week before. So, yeah,
[2:06:53] Speaker 4: at that moment, I was like, oh, this.
[2:06:55] Speaker 3: Shit is crazy.
[2:06:58] Speaker 1: Will you hold on to that grudge forever, or.
[2:07:01] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:07:01] Speaker 1: Or if there's a bag involved, then would you?
[2:07:03] Speaker 2: For sure.
[2:07:03] Speaker 4: No, I would never go back there.
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: Okay. Uh-uh.
[2:07:05] Speaker 2: Damn. All right. Yeah, that shit wicked, man. Like, my
[2:07:08] Speaker 2: free agent shit went on with the Denver. Like, there's no, like... Yeah,
[2:07:12] Speaker 2: I hate that. The Nets, like, I'm... I'm coming off
[2:07:14] Speaker 2: an all-star appearance.
[2:07:15] Speaker 3: I'm top.
[2:07:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, like, career games in the bubble.
[2:07:18] Speaker 2: Everything.
[2:07:18] Speaker 3: Crazy.
[2:07:19] Speaker 2: Free agent and.
[2:07:20] Speaker 4: Broke franchise record and steals in a game.
[2:07:24] Speaker 3: Like, I was.
[2:07:25] Speaker 4: I was playing well in the bubble. So I was like,
[2:07:28] Speaker 4: what the fuck? I got a concussion. Had to leave.
[2:07:31] Speaker 4: And I didn't hear from them after that.
[2:07:33] Speaker 2: Oh, damn.
[2:07:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fucking... Yeah, they.
[2:07:36] Speaker 2: Never offered me, so.
[2:07:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about that situation a little bit. Like
[2:07:39] Speaker 1: you said, All-Star. Game was in Staples, if I'm not mistaken, right?
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: Oh, they didn't offer you? All-Star game. New Jersey? Agent.
[2:07:48] Speaker 3: Oh, was they just, like, talking? I hated that part. Like,
[2:07:51] Speaker 3: GM was talking about you, trying to put you down before.
[2:07:54] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. There was nothing they
[2:07:56] Speaker 2: could do at that point. No, they let the... city...
[2:07:59] Speaker 2: The thing is, they let me go into my fourth
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: year thinking, right? Going into my... The summer before my
[2:08:07] Speaker 2: fourth year, they offered me a contract, and I was like, ah,
[2:08:11] Speaker 2: good money, but I'll go and I'll play this one out.
[2:08:16] Speaker 2: I made the All-Star team. Mm-hmm. Now I'm a free agent,
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: and free agents just start, you know, I'm, there's a
[2:08:24] Speaker 2: whole lot of us out there, but I'm, at the time, no,
[2:08:27] Speaker 2: I was the biggest free agent. Yeah, I love you, geek.
[2:08:29] Speaker 1: I get that paper.
[2:08:30] Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, they just gave Jake here, like, the
[2:08:33] Speaker 2: year before, like, 105 or something. I'm, he all-star. I'm all-star.
[2:08:39] Speaker 2: We one and two, we thing, hey. Can't have one
[2:08:45] Speaker 2: without the other. Call it a motherfucking sprint. Like, hey,
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: this shit still work. Shit, hey.
[2:08:50] Speaker 3: Hey, man, hey.
[2:08:51] Speaker 4: They just don't want to have a conversation.
[2:08:53] Speaker 2: I got three of these, hey.
[2:08:54] Speaker 4: It's so weird.
[2:08:55] Speaker 1: I got three numbers. I got three phones at the time, shit.
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: It's like, shit.
[2:08:59] Speaker 3: At the side, Blackberry, y'all. At the side, one of
[2:09:05] Speaker 3: these bitches been ringing every day now. Flip phone with
[2:09:09] Speaker 3: the camera on it.
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: Got it all.
[2:09:10] Speaker 3: I'm about to take pictures of this.
[2:09:13] Speaker 2: One of these bitches got a ring, right? I'm sitting
[2:09:15] Speaker 2: there waiting.
[2:09:16] Speaker 3: What was it, AOL at the time?
[2:09:18] Speaker 2: Whatever it was, motherfucker didn't call. Nothing. I'm sitting there,
[2:09:23] Speaker 2: I tell my, hey, man, what's happening, Jack? Hey, man,
[2:09:26] Speaker 2: I don't... I said, you probably want to call him.
[2:09:28] Speaker 4: I didn't want your agents to be like, yeah, I
[2:09:32] Speaker 4: don't know. Do your job. Find out.
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: But for me, it wasn't... No, there was... It was
[2:09:38] Speaker 2: one of them situations. Like, this is some real arrogant shit,
[2:09:40] Speaker 2: but I shouldn't have to call him. Yeah, you shouldn't have.
[2:09:43] Speaker 3: You shouldn't have to.
[2:09:44] Speaker 2: Not at all.
[2:09:44] Speaker 1: But you should be feeling yourself after the season that
[2:09:46] Speaker 1: you just had.
[2:09:47] Speaker 2: We lost to the pisses I get, but still, I'm
[2:09:49] Speaker 2: still him at that point. All-star, yeah. It's me and J.K. Like, no,
[2:09:55] Speaker 2: I'm number one pick around this bitch. It ain't like
[2:09:57] Speaker 2: you picked me motherfucking 28. No, you picked me number one.
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: And I've... Every year, we'd in two finals appearances, all-star.
[2:10:07] Speaker 2: Number one pick. Hey, man, what y'all going to do? Nothing.
[2:10:13] Speaker 2: You must have punked the niggas.
[2:10:14] Speaker 3: No, it was a new ownership group. New ownership group.
[2:10:19] Speaker 2: It was the group that Jay-Z and them was a
[2:10:22] Speaker 2: part of. They sold it.
[2:10:24] Speaker 1: It was part of the 49%, and Bruce Radner had 51% ownership.
[2:10:26] Speaker 2: And He had to find them to say so.
[2:10:35] Speaker 4: So you never knew why.
[2:10:36] Speaker 2: The group of 49 said, yeah. Everybody that made up
[2:10:40] Speaker 2: this 49% said absolutely paying.
[2:10:45] Speaker 4: And the new people said no.
[2:10:47] Speaker 2: The guy that had 51% was like, pay who?
[2:10:53] Speaker 1: Y'all paid the other guy. I wouldn't have paid him either.
[2:10:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:10:57] Speaker 3: We're not going.
[2:10:58] Speaker 2: To pay him. So the phone never rang. So I've
[2:11:03] Speaker 2: never met him. I've seen him once since that decision
[2:11:07] Speaker 2: 20 years ago. I've seen him one time. All-Star Weekend
[2:11:13] Speaker 2: was here, and I was at a bowling event. Michael
[2:11:15] Speaker 2: Strahan had a bowling event at Lucky Strike at LA Live.
[2:11:19] Speaker 2: And one of the season ticket holders back then was
[2:11:22] Speaker 2: at the event. He's like, I got somebody I want
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: you to meet.
[2:11:25] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[2:11:28] Speaker 2: He didn't tell me who it was.
[2:11:30] Speaker 1: Did he know that?
[2:11:31] Speaker 2: I don't know if he knew, but he knew of
[2:11:33] Speaker 2: this because he was Kenyon Bruce Ratner, Bruce Ratner Kenyon.
[2:11:38] Speaker 3: He wanted you to whoop his ass right there.
[2:11:41] Speaker 2: And guess what this man's words was to me? Hope
[2:11:44] Speaker 2: there's no hard feelings.
[2:11:46] Speaker 3: Boo. Boo.
[2:11:49] Speaker 2: I hope there's no hard feelings.
[2:11:52] Speaker 3: Ew.
[2:11:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, business of sorts is nuts.
[2:11:56] Speaker 2: Younger. Nice to meet you, sir.
[2:11:59] Speaker 1: You have a good evening.
[2:11:59] Speaker 4: That was the first thing he said to you?
[2:12:01] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:12:01] Speaker 2: And I did exactly. Nice to meet you, sir. Have
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: a good evening. And I walked the fuck off. He
[2:12:07] Speaker 2: doesn't want to get socked. No, because you understood. The
[2:12:11] Speaker 2: day I signed with the Nuggets, right? The day that
[2:12:14] Speaker 2: it was announced I wasn't coming back. They lost half
[2:12:18] Speaker 2: of their season ticket holders, man.
[2:12:21] Speaker 3: It was real. Who'd they get back?
[2:12:25] Speaker 2: Nothing.
[2:12:25] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: Oh, that's when they had to do the trade. To
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: get Vince.
[2:12:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: This was a year after.
[2:12:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
[2:12:32] Speaker 2: You had to do something because them people was pissed. Yeah.
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: For sure. Two finals, all-star, number one pick, we ain't
[2:12:40] Speaker 2: been nothing forever, and now you decide, like, don't let
[2:12:43] Speaker 2: this man walk for some picks that didn't end up
[2:12:48] Speaker 2: being nothing. It was some picks. Like, just do some picks. Like,
[2:12:52] Speaker 2: sign a trade and you can lose him for nothing
[2:12:54] Speaker 2: because he's leaving. You can sign and trade him, or
[2:12:57] Speaker 2: you can get you some picks back and try to
[2:12:59] Speaker 2: save him. Was Keith Van Horn on that team? No,
[2:13:01] Speaker 2: Keith was gone already. Oh, shit. Kerry Kittles? When I left,
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: Kerry was still there, RJ and J.
[2:13:07] Speaker 3: Kidd.
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: Good luck. And they ain't did shit.
[2:13:12] Speaker 3: I used to like Kerry Kittles in college.
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: They ain't did shit since.
[2:13:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked the Kerry Kittles in college. We tried
[2:13:17] Speaker 1: to make that work out in this way. It didn't
[2:13:20] Speaker 1: feel right. The league told him he couldn't do it.
[2:13:22] Speaker 3: For real?
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: That's why he didn't do it in the league.
[2:13:25] Speaker 3: Damn.
[2:13:25] Speaker 2: He did it his rookie year, I think, and they
[2:13:27] Speaker 2: stopped it. He did it early on and they stopped it.
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: That's one of the more legendary. You always think about
[2:13:32] Speaker 2: Kerry Kittle. Man. Knew all his natives, baby.
[2:13:37] Speaker 1: So last question I got for y'all. What's it like
[2:13:39] Speaker 1: joining a new team after a trade or free agency?
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: How long did it take you to get comfortable in
[2:13:43] Speaker 1: your new environment? So Kane, All-Star, Nets will offer you
[2:13:46] Speaker 1: the bread. You end up going to the Nuggets. Are
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: you salty about that situation? And how long did it
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: take you just to kind of clear your mind and
[2:13:53] Speaker 1: look ahead to your new team?
[2:13:57] Speaker 2: Bittersweet when it first goes down. Like I said, I
[2:14:03] Speaker 2: thought I was going to be in Jersey for a while.
[2:14:06] Speaker 2: Because there had been nothing forever. And we finally relevant
[2:14:12] Speaker 2: within the game again. And I'm a big part of it.
[2:14:16] Speaker 2: So I don't think it's ever going to change. So
[2:14:18] Speaker 2: to your point, I learned about the business of basketball
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: after year four, right? That was part of the other
[2:14:24] Speaker 2: conversation we was having. So I learned about the business
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: of basketball after year four. Damn, well, that's tough. To
[2:14:30] Speaker 2: lose a new owner. And to get acclimated in a
[2:14:33] Speaker 2: new situation. I went about it, I think, in the
[2:14:42] Speaker 2: right manner. Because when I got to Denver, Mello was
[2:14:47] Speaker 2: only in his second year.
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:14:53] Speaker 2: They made the playoffs here before, but still, I was
[2:14:57] Speaker 2: max guy coming in with the name. So I could
[2:14:59] Speaker 2: have easily came in there with fucking black Tims on.
[2:15:06] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: I need 20 shots tonight. I need, like, easily. I
[2:15:13] Speaker 2: had the leverage. Yeah, he wasn't no Jason Kidd passer.
[2:15:18] Speaker 2: Say it again? He wasn't a Jason Kidd. But it
[2:15:21] Speaker 2: wasn't about that, though. It wasn't about Melo being a
[2:15:23] Speaker 2: passer or not. I could have directly affected Melo's growth. Yeah,
[2:15:30] Speaker 2: for sure. Had I went in there with my chest
[2:15:33] Speaker 2: poked out. People don't understand. I could have easily went
[2:15:39] Speaker 2: in there and demanded it. all the touches, he was
[2:15:43] Speaker 2: getting all the shots, he was getting, I could have
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: easily demanded that. Cause I had, like I said, I
[2:15:48] Speaker 2: had the leverage, but I went in there and I
[2:15:50] Speaker 2: was like, let, I took a, do you, young fella? Like,
[2:15:56] Speaker 2: I get mine, I don't care.
[2:15:59] Speaker 1: Like, do you?
[2:16:01] Speaker 2: He was showing that he was gonna be that. He
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: was showing he was gonna be that, so it would
[2:16:05] Speaker 2: have been selfish of me to, and I'm not a
[2:16:07] Speaker 2: selfish basketball player, so do you, young fella? I do everything,
[2:16:12] Speaker 2: I do what I'm, but I know what I'm gonna do.
[2:16:15] Speaker 2: So you just do continue to grow and be that.
[2:16:18] Speaker 2: And I think it benefited us as a team as so,
[2:16:22] Speaker 2: but right away though, I'm saying I got acclimated right
[2:16:25] Speaker 2: away because different thought process. D'Alexia, how about yourself?
[2:16:34] Speaker 4: I wasn't comfortable in the WNBA till my second year
[2:16:37] Speaker 4: with the Sparks. And then I was playing that way,
[2:16:42] Speaker 4: and then I got sick. So that was just, like,
[2:16:46] Speaker 4: real frustrating. But it was nice to finally feel comfortable
[2:16:52] Speaker 4: and being able to prove myself and showing people the
[2:16:55] Speaker 4: type of player that I could be in the league.
[2:16:58] Speaker 4: Now going to Seattle, like, since now I'm no longer sick,
[2:17:04] Speaker 4: I think about the game differently. I think about... my
[2:17:06] Speaker 4: profession a little bit differently and I'm like going in
[2:17:09] Speaker 4: with like a very different mindset that I have in
[2:17:11] Speaker 4: the past about it and I'm really excited and it's
[2:17:16] Speaker 4: like it's work to me now like ultimate professional I'm
[2:17:21] Speaker 4: a year eight there's going to be expectations set for
[2:17:23] Speaker 4: me and the rest of the team so I feel
[2:17:26] Speaker 4: really comfortable and then I had a really great season
[2:17:28] Speaker 4: in Nashville so But yeah, I mean, I went through
[2:17:32] Speaker 4: the first five years of my career just looking over
[2:17:34] Speaker 4: my shoulder constantly and never feeling wanted or accepted on
[2:17:38] Speaker 4: the team I was on until I really got to
[2:17:40] Speaker 4: the Sparks. So it was nice. I mean, how it
[2:17:44] Speaker 4: ended in la was like not the greatest but like
[2:17:47] Speaker 4: i'm really grateful for my time in la it was
[2:17:50] Speaker 4: like very transformational for me we.
[2:17:53] Speaker 1: Were salty as well obviously like turning up going to
[2:17:56] Speaker 1: staples center yeah supporting you still got our lexi shirts.
[2:18:00] Speaker 4: Yeah y'all just gotta pull up when we come we
[2:18:02] Speaker 4: will be in.
[2:18:02] Speaker 1: The pacific northwest climbing pledge arena beautiful city of seattle
[2:18:08] Speaker 1: What's why you're so mean?
[2:18:12] Speaker 3: It was actually good for me. I was happy, you know.
[2:18:15] Speaker 3: I was coming back home to L.A. Same day I
[2:18:21] Speaker 3: got traded, little Nick was born. So I got a
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: chance to come home and see him. That was pretty dope,
[2:18:28] Speaker 3: you know. But that's when I kind of learned the
[2:18:33] Speaker 3: business as well. players being on the Clippers, you know,
[2:18:37] Speaker 3: from Chris Paul, you know, making decisions. And yeah, that
[2:18:44] Speaker 3: organization was, it was kind of messed up. So I
[2:18:48] Speaker 3: learned a lot from being there. Just to tell you.
[2:18:52] Speaker 3: I was happy to come back home then. life happen again, so.
[2:18:58] Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, brother. People thought I was just.
[2:19:00] Speaker 2: Picking on you, man.
[2:19:02] Speaker 3: What, the Clippers?
[2:19:03] Speaker 2: No, I thought I didn't like Chris Paul.
[2:19:04] Speaker 4: Oh, Chris Paul.
[2:19:05] Speaker 3: That's just crazy.
[2:19:06] Speaker 1: What was the issue?
[2:19:07] Speaker 3: No, he's a politician.
[2:19:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:19:10] Speaker 3: For real.
[2:19:12] Speaker 2: That's why I couldn't come back. I just stated what
[2:19:15] Speaker 2: it is. He's really good at basketball, one of the
[2:19:17] Speaker 2: greatest point guards ever. He's a politician, too. Politician, too,
[2:19:21] Speaker 2: for sure. He gonna go in that mother and close
[2:19:24] Speaker 2: that door behind him and have a conversation. That's all.
[2:19:31] Speaker 2: And none of us is included in those conversations, though.
[2:19:34] Speaker 4: How many seasons were you on the Clippers?
[2:19:36] Speaker 2: Just a half a season.
[2:19:37] Speaker 3: I was doing a lockout that season, after the lockout. Yeah.
[2:19:40] Speaker 2: So it was a short season.
[2:19:42] Speaker 1: Hey.
[2:19:42] Speaker 2: We was together.
[2:19:44] Speaker 1: Short stint. Sterling, still the Sterling Clipper.
[2:19:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Short stint. That's a different. That was a
[2:19:49] Speaker 2: different time. Made the playoffs, got him out there, motherfucker.
[2:19:52] Speaker 1: Hey.
[2:19:53] Speaker 2: You heard T and them called him soft. So we
[2:19:56] Speaker 2: came in the game. Hey, listen, dawg. Why ain't that
[2:19:58] Speaker 2: next week? Hey, they want nothing to do with us. Me, you, Reg,
[2:20:02] Speaker 2: all of those are gone, right? Yeah. Yeah.
[2:20:06] Speaker 1: Next year.
[2:20:07] Speaker 4: Got y'all up out of there?
[2:20:08] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[2:20:09] Speaker 2: I was with the Knicks next year.
[2:20:11] Speaker 4: Where'd you go next?
[2:20:12] Speaker 2: Philly.
[2:20:14] Speaker 3: Mm. Fucked up from fucked up from fucked up.
[2:20:20] Speaker 4: I'm telling you, people don't understand how many players just
[2:20:24] Speaker 4: weird situation after weird situation after weird situation. That shit
[2:20:29] Speaker 4: is not easy to deal with.
[2:20:30] Speaker 2: It was Andrew Bynum's season first year.
[2:20:33] Speaker 3: He didn't play. He was walking around with that damn
[2:20:35] Speaker 3: James Brown fro. Fucking looking crazy. It was just... I
[2:20:43] Speaker 3: almost just said, fuck it, I'm done.
[2:20:47] Speaker 4: You don't take shit serious, bro.
[2:20:49] Speaker 3: Like, nothing.
[2:20:50] Speaker 2: It's so serious.
[2:20:51] Speaker 1: It's funny, but it's so serious.
[2:20:53] Speaker 3: It's funny, but it's serious.
[2:20:55] Speaker 1: Remember that Andrew Bynum look?
[2:20:57] Speaker 2: Yes.
[2:20:58] Speaker 3: Them brown clothes, fucking red loafers every day. He wore
[2:21:06] Speaker 3: them red loafers with shorts. Practice, suits, the same thing.
[2:21:11] Speaker 1: The comb front fro.
[2:21:12] Speaker 3: The comb fro.
[2:21:13] Speaker 1: It was a comb front fro. If you could visualize
[2:21:16] Speaker 1: that in your head. It wasn't going to be, it
[2:21:18] Speaker 1: was going this way.
[2:21:19] Speaker 2: Yes, it was going frontwards.
[2:21:20] Speaker 1: Helmet down.
[2:21:22] Speaker 2: It's interesting work. Yeah. It's understandable.
[2:21:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:21:25] Speaker 1: All right, let's keep this thing moving. Underdog is launching
[2:21:30] Speaker 1: a Gills Arena NBA playoff best ball tournament with a
[2:21:34] Speaker 1: $ 50, 000 prize pool. Draft the team for the entirety of
[2:21:39] Speaker 1: the playoffs. Compete against everyone on this couch and the
[2:21:42] Speaker 1: rest of y'all in the chat. First place not only
[2:21:44] Speaker 1: wins $ 5, 000, but we're also flying you out to watch
[2:21:46] Speaker 1: an episode of Gills Arena live in studio. Tournament is
[2:21:50] Speaker 1: live right now. Draft before it fills. And you may
[2:21:52] Speaker 1: even see us in the draft lobby in the near future.
[2:21:55] Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's going to be very, very soon.
[2:21:58] Speaker 1: We have a link in the chat to the NBA lobby.
[2:21:59] Speaker 1: Find the tournament there. We will be drafting our Gills
[2:22:02] Speaker 1: Arena best ball teams this Thursday. Whew. So stay tuned
[2:22:06] Speaker 1: for that. It's going to be a very productive Thursday
[2:22:07] Speaker 1: on the couch. If you've seen Gil and he's looked
[2:22:09] Speaker 1: like he hasn't been locked in on the show recently,
[2:22:11] Speaker 1: it's because he's been doing basketball teams. He's got about
[2:22:14] Speaker 1: 75 teams. Shit is like bingo. He's always getting his
[2:22:19] Speaker 1: drafts going, asking us who he should pick, not listening
[2:22:22] Speaker 1: to my questions, but nonetheless, he still cuts the checks.
[2:22:25] Speaker 1: So I love him and respect him.
[2:22:27] Speaker 2: Gil, we hope you're having.
[2:22:28] Speaker 1: Fun in New York. What?
[2:22:29] Speaker 2: How y'all brackets look? I don't know, but I'm still alive. Nasty.
[2:22:34] Speaker 2: I don't know how it look.
[2:22:35] Speaker 3: I was about to say, I wanted to see them papers.
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: Huh? Who you have winning?
[2:22:39] Speaker 2: Auburn. Good job, baby. Listen, I don't, but what else
[2:22:42] Speaker 2: has happened before now? Auburn's still alive, so. My dumb
[2:22:46] Speaker 2: ass wanted to see upsets. I picked one upset earlier.
[2:22:51] Speaker 2: I just, like I said, I thought about it. Ain't
[2:22:52] Speaker 2: nobody playing at them schools, man.
[2:22:54] Speaker 1: But you know when you're doing the bracket, it's like,
[2:22:55] Speaker 1: I can't just have all the one-seeds go through.
[2:22:57] Speaker 3: And guess what happened this year?
[2:22:59] Speaker 4: Great ones.
[2:23:00] Speaker 1: They're just not going to kill.
[2:23:01] Speaker 3: I got Houston playing Duke in the Final Four, but
[2:23:04] Speaker 3: I got Duke winning.
[2:23:05] Speaker 2: I don't know who I got on the other side.
[2:23:07] Speaker 2: I picked the one.
[2:23:09] Speaker 4: All one-seeds is crazy.
[2:23:10] Speaker 3: I don't know why.
[2:23:11] Speaker 1: It wasn't because I watched the team. I just don't
[2:23:13] Speaker 1: like the mascot. I had a bad experience there one time.
[2:23:18] Speaker 4: This upset looks fun. No, we didn't have none of
[2:23:21] Speaker 4: those this year. We had like one upset this year.
[2:23:23] Speaker 2: First round?
[2:23:25] Speaker 4: Not even first round.
[2:23:28] Speaker 2: The 5-12 upset, right? Wasn't it a 5-12 game?
[2:23:32] Speaker 1: I think there was only like two or three upsets.
[2:23:34] Speaker 1: All the Sweet 16 was all power conferences. Now all
[2:23:38] Speaker 1: the number one seeds in the 90s.
[2:23:40] Speaker 3: Boring.
[2:23:41] Speaker 2: Which is what we should want, but for some reason.
[2:23:42] Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying.
[2:23:43] Speaker 1: Very rare.
[2:23:43] Speaker 3: Cinderella.
[2:23:44] Speaker 1: I don't want to see all the best teams compete
[2:23:46] Speaker 1: against each other, but salty now.
[2:23:47] Speaker 4: Cinderella's rare.
[2:23:48] Speaker 1: UCSD didn't give me an upset like I needed.
[2:23:51] Speaker 3: What?
[2:23:52] Speaker 1: San Diego. Dog Bowl. We were just at Dog Bowl.
[2:23:54] Speaker 1: That's the same thing. That's why we was at Dog Bowl.
[2:23:58] Speaker 1: We were for San Diego. But let's move on to
[2:24:00] Speaker 1: Mostly Fans. Presented by the good folks at Underdog. Download
[2:24:04] Speaker 1: the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $ 1, 000
[2:24:06] Speaker 1: in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So we have
[2:24:10] Speaker 1: One question is from underdog user Bacon92AJ. Bacon92AJ. Very curious
[2:24:17] Speaker 1: how you came up with that underdog username. But do
[2:24:20] Speaker 1: you think the Clippers will trade Harden or Kawhi if
[2:24:23] Speaker 1: they're not successful in the playoffs?
[2:24:25] Speaker 2: No. No.
[2:24:26] Speaker 4: But what does successful in the playoffs mean?
[2:24:29] Speaker 3: Winning?
[2:24:30] Speaker 2: That's the better question for Bacon.
[2:24:32] Speaker 4: Hell no.
[2:24:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they just stay there forever.
[2:24:36] Speaker 1: They just stay.
[2:24:36] Speaker 2: Yeah. They don't never leave. So this is the thing, people.
[2:24:39] Speaker 2: I don't know if you know what's the dude named Bacon. Bacon, whatever, something, something.
[2:24:44] Speaker 2: You have to have two teams that's willing to make
[2:24:47] Speaker 2: a trade.
[2:24:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:24:48] Speaker 2: You have to have multiple people. You just can't trade
[2:24:51] Speaker 2: with yourself.
[2:24:53] Speaker 1: But Harden player option after this season. He ain't going nowhere.
[2:24:57] Speaker 1: Slated to make $ 36 million.
[2:25:00] Speaker 2: Player option?
[2:25:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a player option. He's opting into the 36.
[2:25:03] Speaker 1: For sure. After the season he's had.
[2:25:07] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:25:08] Speaker 2: Really? You don't think he can get more? If he
[2:25:12] Speaker 2: can add on to it, but it ain't going to
[2:25:14] Speaker 2: sign a two-year or three-year extension, but it won't be
[2:25:15] Speaker 2: nothing crazy.
[2:25:16] Speaker 4: Because if he goes to another team for more money,
[2:25:18] Speaker 4: he's going to have to be doing more. He's going
[2:25:20] Speaker 4: to have to produce more. I think he likes his
[2:25:23] Speaker 4: little role that he's in right now.
[2:25:25] Speaker 1: But I think James Harden is worth more than $ 36 million.
[2:25:27] Speaker 1: Maybe I'm tripping.
[2:25:28] Speaker 4: But I think he likes his little role.
[2:25:30] Speaker 1: What he's done, making the playoffs now, should be every
[2:25:33] Speaker 1: single season of his career is bounced back from kind
[2:25:35] Speaker 1: of some of those negative things. Maybe he's taking the
[2:25:39] Speaker 1: pay cut for the betterment of what we're trying to do.
[2:25:42] Speaker 2: Maybe it's that. Maybe he's really trying to go win one.
[2:25:45] Speaker 2: Maybe he's putting his team first and trying to win
[2:25:48] Speaker 2: with the Clippers. He's trying to prove that he can
[2:25:50] Speaker 2: do it here. So he's putting his team first. So
[2:25:53] Speaker 2: maybe it's that important to him now to win. 36
[2:25:57] Speaker 2: and you can add an extension on to it where it's- Yeah,
[2:26:00] Speaker 2: what's the two years? Those numbers.
[2:26:01] Speaker 1: He just signed a two year 70, right?
[2:26:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:26:03] Speaker 2: How about I do a two year 80? So he's
[2:26:05] Speaker 2: a two year 70. Then another two years if they
[2:26:07] Speaker 2: don't win. Yeah, it's cool, but- Because you.
[2:26:11] Speaker 4: Their time is ticking.
[2:26:13] Speaker 2: They got about two years.
[2:26:14] Speaker 3: They got Norm Powell playing out his.
[2:26:17] Speaker 1: So you still need to have... Norm Powell also, in
[2:26:20] Speaker 1: the final year, is due next year. So now you
[2:26:22] Speaker 1: got to have... So he's going to get his bread first.
[2:26:25] Speaker 2: You got to have money to pay Zubac Young.
[2:26:27] Speaker 4: He might leave.
[2:26:28] Speaker 2: Zubac playing out his mind.
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: Zubac under contract through 2028, so he's not going to
[2:26:33] Speaker 1: be asking for more bread for at least a couple
[2:26:35] Speaker 1: more seasons.
[2:26:35] Speaker 3: True.
[2:26:36] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what I mean?
[2:26:37] Speaker 2: True, I get you. I dig it.
[2:26:38] Speaker 1: Looking at how just the landscape, Norm Powell should be
[2:26:40] Speaker 1: able to get an extension this offseason. Harden has the
[2:26:42] Speaker 1: ability to opt out, but y'all think just take the
[2:26:44] Speaker 1: 36 and figure it out.
[2:26:46] Speaker 2: Or it'll be an extension. Another two for whatever. Two
[2:26:49] Speaker 2: for whatever. So it'll be around the same numbers, I think.
[2:26:52] Speaker 1: But if I see Jimmy get two for 110 or
[2:26:54] Speaker 1: whatever that is from the Warriors... I'm just saying, like,
[2:26:59] Speaker 1: if I'm hardening, I'm looking around.
[2:27:03] Speaker 2: He could for sure do it. He could, absolutely.
[2:27:06] Speaker 3: He got the money to do it, too, though.
[2:27:08] Speaker 4: And Steve Ballmer, you got it.
[2:27:11] Speaker 2: He keep laughing. He has the leverage to add to that, absolutely.
[2:27:15] Speaker 2: But does it, like we were saying with LeBron, right,
[2:27:20] Speaker 2: does it benefit them trying to win?
[2:27:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:27:22] Speaker 2: For him to go in there and get the maximum
[2:27:24] Speaker 2: amount of money that he could possibly get if he's
[2:27:26] Speaker 2: trying to win.
[2:27:27] Speaker 1: Harden averaging 23-9-6 in 72 games this season.
[2:27:30] Speaker 2: Been available, been playing.
[2:27:32] Speaker 3: That was a pay cut he took, right?
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't argue that. That's what he said, too, yeah. Absolutely.
[2:27:37] Speaker 2: But wanted to stay in L.A., so I was like,
[2:27:38] Speaker 2: all right, look, Artie. And then be the same situation again.
[2:27:41] Speaker 1: Because it's like, Artie did it in Philly, seeing what happened.
[2:27:44] Speaker 1: Now I came over here, I did it for you all,
[2:27:45] Speaker 1: Steve Ballmer.
[2:27:46] Speaker 2: But he wanted to be here, though.
[2:27:47] Speaker 3: He wanted to be here.
[2:27:48] Speaker 1: He wanted to be home. He wanted to be in L.A.,
[2:27:50] Speaker 1: so it's a difference. But feel like he's... I've honored
[2:27:54] Speaker 1: that contract and I've performed. He's sacrificed and he's honored it. Overperformed.
[2:27:57] Speaker 2: Even when Kawhi was hurt in the beginning.
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, we still in playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised if
[2:28:02] Speaker 1: he asked for more. I'm not saying anymore. I wouldn't
[2:28:05] Speaker 1: be surprised if he did.
[2:28:06] Speaker 2: He's staying in LA though. He's staying in LA.
[2:28:09] Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if the Clippers didn't take care of
[2:28:11] Speaker 1: him as best as they can.
[2:28:12] Speaker 2: Like, look, we got other people. As much as we can.
[2:28:15] Speaker 3: As much as we can after what Paul George looked like, right? Mm-hmm.
[2:28:22] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, he stayed and, you know.
[2:28:28] Speaker 2: I'll say, give me my 212. Look what y'all talking about.
[2:28:31] Speaker 1: He can't go in there like that. He can't go
[2:28:34] Speaker 1: in there. Well, I did the three for 153, if
[2:28:35] Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken.
[2:28:36] Speaker 2: He can't go in there doing that.
[2:28:37] Speaker 3: I want the same as Kawhi.
[2:28:39] Speaker 4: So much money.
[2:28:39] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:28:40] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[2:28:41] Speaker 1: At least give.
[2:28:42] Speaker 2: Me two for 100.
[2:28:43] Speaker 3: So who's the smart one in that situation?
[2:28:46] Speaker 2: Philly or Clippers?
[2:28:48] Speaker 4: For what situation? The Paul George one?
[2:28:50] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:28:51] Speaker 4: What, when he got traded?
[2:28:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he.
[2:28:54] Speaker 1: I mean.
[2:28:54] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[2:28:56] Speaker 2: Like, he got the 2-1, like, the Clippers. Clippers, obvious. Like, Clippers, like, goddamn,
[2:29:00] Speaker 2: we should have paid them. I don't think the.
[2:29:02] Speaker 1: Based on how this season has played out, Clippers felt like.
[2:29:04] Speaker 4: I don't think they're regretting that decision at all.
[2:29:09] Speaker 2: Hindsight.
[2:29:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
[2:29:11] Speaker 3: Always.
[2:29:15] Speaker 2: Don't miss. Hindsight, don't miss.
[2:29:18] Speaker 3: So....
[2:29:22] Speaker 1: Well, on that note, appreciate everybody. Like I said, great
[2:29:25] Speaker 1: to have you back on the couch, have you celebrate.
[2:29:27] Speaker 1: We're doing this million subs probably, you know, rest of
[2:29:30] Speaker 1: the season. Have some things in the works for you guys.
[2:29:32] Speaker 1: You know, I can get on the phone with Underdog,
[2:29:34] Speaker 1: request things, just for y'all, you know. Kendrick Sweet, just
[2:29:37] Speaker 1: basic things.
[2:29:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:29:39] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena Yacht has been thrown out.
[2:29:41] Speaker 3: If you want, I'll take a picture with you with.
[2:29:44] Speaker 2: The million-dollar subscriber.
[2:29:46] Speaker 1: With the plaid knickers?
[2:29:47] Speaker 2: With the plaid. Just so you can feel like you're
[2:29:49] Speaker 2: a part, you know? If you want to touch it.
[2:29:51] Speaker 1: April Fools! April Fools! I'm out of here!
[2:29:58] Speaker 3: I was going to take a picture with you.
[2:30:01] Speaker 1: What the fuck?
[2:30:02] Speaker 2: People are fools, motherfucker.
[2:30:05] Speaker 4: Why don't you leave it already?
[2:30:06] Speaker 1: Max, we appreciate you as well.
[2:30:07] Speaker 4: Well, apparently that is what it is.
[2:30:09] Speaker 1: Gil, have fun at the McDonald's game. We look forward
[2:30:11] Speaker 1: to watching Elijah cook tonight. This has been another episode
[2:30:15] Speaker 1: of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:30:17] Speaker 2: Well, we will see y'all tomorrow.
[2:30:19] Speaker 4: Oh, bye.

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