# Luka Doncic's Revenge Game BLOWS UP Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 26 Feb 2025, 2 h 34 min.

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Luka Doncic's Revenge Game BLOWS UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Luka's first game against the Dallas Mavericks as a member of the Los Angeles Lakers where the Slovenian superstar dropped a triple double and proved the LeLuka Broncic duo with LeBron James is one of the best in the NBA. They then move to recap the Memphis Grizzlies take down of the Phoenix Suns where Ja Morant proved the 2-seeded Grizzlies are legit by fending off Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & Bol Bol and showed that the Suns may really be cooked as they sit outside of the NBA playoff picture. They also react to Kevin Durant's emotional response to playing for Team USA in the Olympics, sparking an interesting debate on the unfair criticism of KD. Next, Mr B gets hostile as The Gil's Arena Crew breaks down the Milwaukee Bucks winning streak and gets real on the impact left behind by Bobby Portis' shocking suspension. Finally, with just a few months left in the NBA season Nikola Jokic is making a big push for his 4th NBA MVP Award as the Denver Nuggets all world center dropped a career high 19 assists on Monday night and proved to everyone in the NBA that he deserves the MVP over Shai Gilgeous Alexander. Please us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get $15 off your first order and find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/GIL Use Code GIL for 15% off Aura Watches at https://aura.watch/GIL USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 - 2 Min Timer 0:02:08 Show Start 0:10:20 Luka's Revenge Game 0:22:27 Kenyon Still Thinks The Mavs Won The Trade 0:33:43 How Much Pressure Is On The Mavs To Win? 0:43:10 JJ Praises LeBron's Defense 0:53:46 Is The Luka-LeBron Duo The Best In The League 1:02:31 Gil's Arena's All-NBA First Team 1:10:47 The Grizzlies Are Taking Over The West 1:36:52 Bol Bol Is The Key To Saving The Phoenix Suns 2:00:43 Kevin Durant Disrespect Turns Gil's Arena Hostile 2:29:16 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa!
[0:06] Speaker 1: Luka! Luka! Luka! Luka! I don't know why I said that, but...
[0:14] Speaker 1: That's my favorite line still, though. I'm not down with me.
[0:17] Speaker 1: It's fine, though. It's fine. I don't want to say
[0:20] Speaker 1: that on... Not on the air? Okay. How everybody feeling? Man,
[0:23] Speaker 1: I'm getting wet. Great night.
[0:25] Speaker 3: Huh?
[0:26] Speaker 1: Last night.
[0:27] Speaker 4: Yeah, great night.
[0:28] Speaker 1: The arena popped out.
[0:29] Speaker 4: Sweet was nice.
[0:30] Speaker 1: Very nice with it. Showed out. Delicious food offering. Shout
[0:33] Speaker 1: out to Underdog. Shout out Big Burn. It was fun.
[0:36] Speaker 1: It was a basketball game going on? Shout out Big Burn.
[0:42] Speaker 1: I had a blast. I looked up. I asked people,
[0:45] Speaker 1: didn't that miss the fourth quarter? Yeah, damn.
[0:47] Speaker 3: I was like, oh.
[0:48] Speaker 1: We got to go already?
[0:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[0:50] Speaker 5: It was like two minutes. I'm like, oh, shit, I'm
[0:52] Speaker 5: trying to beat this track.
[0:52] Speaker 1: I got here. Some of us stay, you know, just
[0:56] Speaker 1: to show respect. Hold on.
[1:01] Speaker 5: I was on the highway before anybody got on it.
[1:03] Speaker 5: I was flying trying to get out there, bitch.
[1:05] Speaker 1: You know, some of us show respect to Luca and
[1:08] Speaker 1: this Laker squad, but appreciate you to Underdog for getting
[1:11] Speaker 1: us a suite. Look forward to many more this season. Okay?
[1:16] Speaker 1: But we appreciate y'all. Laker suites. Laker suites is expensive. Reasonable.
[1:22] Speaker 1: Underdog got it. My favorite brand. But this is Gil's
[1:25] Speaker 1: Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. As always, we got
[1:28] Speaker 1: the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What's up with you, Gil? Oh,
[1:34] Speaker 1: we got some cookies, too. Okay. Are those good to eat?
[1:38] Speaker 1: Don't touch it. Those are for King James. Oh, my bad. LeBron,
[1:42] Speaker 1: we got your chocolate chip cookies. Okay. We're going to
[1:45] Speaker 1: write this in for Pat Riley. Uh-oh. We got LeBron cookies.
[1:50] Speaker 1: Had to take them back for Pat Riley. We got
[1:51] Speaker 1: them here. Whenever you want to come ground, LeBron, we
[1:53] Speaker 1: got your cookies here waiting for us. We got NBA
[1:57] Speaker 1: champion of the world, Swaggy Pete, Nick Young in the house.
[2:02] Speaker 1: Bringing his championship experience at multiple levels. And on this
[2:06] Speaker 1: side of the couch, we got the bully from Oak Cliff,
[2:08] Speaker 1: former number one pick, Kenyon Martin.
[2:12] Speaker 3: What's happening?
[2:13] Speaker 1: Interesting fashion choice today, Kenyon? Oh, not by choice. It's
[2:17] Speaker 1: about force. Honorable man, we did the Gills Arena All-Star Draft.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Kenya's team came in last place. Dead fucking last. Rashad won,
[2:24] Speaker 1: so he has to wear... He had to bring his
[2:26] Speaker 1: nightgown for me to wear. Rashad's jersey. Rashad here. Is
[2:29] Speaker 1: that the real one? The early 2000s. Oh, so you
[2:33] Speaker 1: know it's... Oh, yeah. Damn! Damn!
[2:37] Speaker 2: Like, that's... Yo.
[2:38] Speaker 1: Like, think about it. Like, that's Rashad's thing, though. Yo,
[2:44] Speaker 1: do the other camera angle. Look, dog, that's thick. And
[2:49] Speaker 1: I'm definitely five inches, six inches taller than him. You
[2:53] Speaker 1: got six thighs, bro. Yeah, it's early 2000s joints right here. Yeah.
[2:56] Speaker 1: That was well dialed. It wasn't touching the knees. It
[2:57] Speaker 1: wasn't in all contexts.
[2:59] Speaker 3: I have shirts at home that's much bigger than this one.
[3:03] Speaker 4: The jersey dress.
[3:04] Speaker 1: The jersey dress.
[3:06] Speaker 3: Think about the shorts for that, though.
[3:07] Speaker 5: The crazy shit is my jersey, I'm going to bring
[3:09] Speaker 5: one in. Listen, oh, my God. I know, dog.
[3:12] Speaker 1: This is a 50. My shit like a 56.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Six.
[3:15] Speaker 1: Plus six. My shorts was 54 plus four. Yeah. Well,
[3:19] Speaker 1: you know, you got to crunch it right here.
[3:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:24] Speaker 1: And last but not least, representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B,
[3:28] Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings. Brandon, do you like it?
[3:32] Speaker 5: I just saw that jacket. That jacket mean as a motherfucker.
[3:34] Speaker 1: Thank you. AI. I just saw it just now. That
[3:37] Speaker 1: motherfucker mean. You got the AI? AI wants the Tough Crowd?
[3:40] Speaker 1: Y'all need to do the... Y'all might as well just collab.
[3:42] Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. You ran
[3:45] Speaker 1: up on me on All Stars. I need that tough crowd.
[3:47] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[3:48] Speaker 3: I just dropped the hottest R & B out. R & B, okay.
[3:51] Speaker 1: Damn it. Okay. Ooh, yeah. Ooh, yeah. For all the
[3:59] Speaker 1: fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you.
[4:01] Speaker 1: Our traditional version, a mobile vertical version. Pick which one
[4:03] Speaker 1: you want to watch. Just make sure you watch the show.
[4:08] Speaker 1: I'm so uncomfortable. That shit itches. I'm just so uncomfortable.
[4:14] Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable in this motherfucker, to be honest. But I
[4:18] Speaker 1: did lose a bet. That jersey was hard. I did
[4:21] Speaker 1: lose a bet. Y'all didn't like that jersey back in
[4:23] Speaker 1: the day?
[4:24] Speaker 2: Who?
[4:24] Speaker 1: That jersey was hard back in the day. Did it
[4:27] Speaker 1: ever have... The black one was crazy.
[4:29] Speaker 3: Silver?
[4:30] Speaker 1: No. That would have been like that 2005, 2006 when
[4:31] Speaker 1: it was....
[4:40] Speaker 2: Freaky shit, they could have used the silver top or
[4:43] Speaker 2: some shit.
[4:44] Speaker 1: What was the best jersey, Orlando Magic's? The pinstripe? The pinstripe.
[4:50] Speaker 1: I think the Bulls. That Bulls black. That black with
[4:54] Speaker 1: the stripes.
[4:55] Speaker 3: The black with the stripes.
[4:56] Speaker 1: The black with the red stripe. That was different. Oh,
[5:00] Speaker 1: the Bulls.
[5:01] Speaker 2: That pinstripe was like, yeah, that's it right there.
[5:05] Speaker 1: My gray Nets jersey was mean. Yep. I agree. I agree.
[5:09] Speaker 1: That shit was hot. Fire and desire, world. You know
[5:12] Speaker 1: what else is hot? The Los Angeles Lakers. We were
[5:14] Speaker 1: going to talk about that on the show. Here's what's
[5:16] Speaker 1: cracking in the arena today. No, okay, we got to
[5:18] Speaker 1: do a tease first, but they are the first tease.
[5:21] Speaker 1: Luka delivered his first triple-double with the Lakers in his
[5:23] Speaker 1: first game against the Mavs. Is the Luka-Bronchik combo the
[5:27] Speaker 1: scariest duo in the league right now? I bet a
[5:32] Speaker 1: laughter of, Because he agreed.
[5:34] Speaker 3: That sounded like fear.
[5:37] Speaker 1: That was a scary duo laugh. The Suns are 2-9
[5:42] Speaker 1: this month. And outside of even the play-in, can Phoenix
[5:46] Speaker 1: fix their issues to salvage their season? Or are the
[5:48] Speaker 1: Suns cooked? And John Morant and the Grizzlies are holding
[5:53] Speaker 1: down the second spot in the West. But are they
[5:55] Speaker 1: for real or fugazi? But before we get into all that,
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[7:48] Speaker 1: Winners will be announced at the end of the show.
[7:49] Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of things to discuss on the
[7:51] Speaker 1: show today, but we might as well just get right
[7:53] Speaker 1: to it. Get right to it. Can I? It is
[7:56] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena. Just smoke. Okay, we're going to smoke it.
[7:59] Speaker 1: We do it. I'm going to back till y'all get done. Oh,
[8:02] Speaker 1: you going to stay for this? And we did not
[8:04] Speaker 1: see you at the end of the game, but I
[8:05] Speaker 1: thought you were going to stay for this. He over
[8:06] Speaker 1: here like Nico. Nico. Yeah, I'm going to just go
[8:08] Speaker 1: on and go to the back. Go on to the
[8:11] Speaker 1: back until he's finished. Thank you, Nico Chance. So, after
[8:14] Speaker 1: his unceremonious exit from Dallas before the trade deadline on
[8:17] Speaker 1: one of the wildest moves in league's history, with his
[8:20] Speaker 1: former team basically calling him a fat, out of shape,
[8:22] Speaker 1: no defense playing alcoholic. That's pretty much what they said.
[8:26] Speaker 1: You already know Luka had his first game against the
[8:28] Speaker 1: Mavs circled on the calendar. and the Slovenian superstar was
[8:31] Speaker 1: looking for revenge on Mavs GM Nico Harrison and the
[8:34] Speaker 1: new ownership group that shipped him to LA. And revenge
[8:38] Speaker 1: he got, oh yeah. Luka messed around and dropped his
[8:41] Speaker 1: first triple-double with the purple and gold, finishing with 19 points,
[8:45] Speaker 1: 15 rebounds, 12 assists, three steals, and two blocks. But
[8:49] Speaker 1: he was six for 17 from the field, one for
[8:51] Speaker 1: seven from deep, but that is not a big deal.
[8:53] Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of emotions going against his former team.
[8:55] Speaker 1: Luka joins LeBron and Westbrook as the only players in
[8:58] Speaker 1: NBA history to have a triple-double on all 30 teams
[9:01] Speaker 1: in the league. So throughout the game, Nick, as you mentioned,
[9:04] Speaker 1: Lakers fans serenaded Mavs GM Nico Harrison with, thank you,
[9:07] Speaker 1: Nico Chance. And we want to just thank you one
[9:09] Speaker 1: more time, Nico, for all that you've done. LeBron let
[9:13] Speaker 1: Luka do his thing for the first three quarters, but
[9:16] Speaker 1: took over in the fourth. But let's watch some Luka
[9:19] Speaker 1: real quick before we get to LeBron Tavis. Oh, there's
[9:22] Speaker 1: some LeBron, though. Wow, we saw that live. Man. Kyrie
[9:29] Speaker 1: did his thing too, though, so we're gonna give him
[9:30] Speaker 1: some love. Umamento. But LeBron let Lucas do his thing
[9:34] Speaker 1: for the first three quarters, took over in the fourth,
[9:35] Speaker 1: scoring 16 of his 27 points in the final period.
[9:38] Speaker 1: Also had 12 rebounds, three assists, the best third option
[9:40] Speaker 1: in the league. Austin Reed delivered another solid performance with
[9:43] Speaker 1: 20 points and five dimes. AD was in the building,
[9:46] Speaker 1: but did not play in the game while he recovers
[9:48] Speaker 1: from his left adductor strain, but he was honored with
[9:50] Speaker 1: the tribute video. Max Christie, I believe, had 10 points
[9:52] Speaker 1: all in the first half as well. But Kyrie was
[9:54] Speaker 1: cooking for the Mavs. 35.7 rebounds, four assists, three steals,
[9:58] Speaker 1: two blocks. Mavs made things interesting in the fourth quarter.
[10:02] Speaker 1: As Klay Thompson caught fire, scoring 11 straight, finishing with
[10:04] Speaker 1: 22 and eight boards. But the Lakers, I mean the Lucas,
[10:08] Speaker 1: would not be denied. Purple and gold got their third
[10:10] Speaker 1: straight win. Nine and two in their last 11 games
[10:13] Speaker 1: have won eight straight games against teams above 500. Lucas
[10:17] Speaker 1: giving some love to his former team. It's not their fault.
[10:21] Speaker 1: Mark Cuban also in the building. It's not his fault either. Hey, man,
[10:24] Speaker 1: see you next summer. Meet Hermano. Yeah, you know, opt out.
[10:27] Speaker 1: See you this summer, fam. Kyrie, we got a vet
[10:29] Speaker 1: minimum for you. They got a little gang handshake? We
[10:32] Speaker 1: got that vet minimum for you, Kyrie.
[10:33] Speaker 4: Come on.
[10:34] Speaker 2: Vet minimum?
[10:36] Speaker 1: We got Gabe Benson and Rui. Who we giving up for?
[10:39] Speaker 1: Who we giving up for? Yeah, that's their last year
[10:42] Speaker 1: in they deal. Shamar Moore?
[10:46] Speaker 2: Well, you know LeBron's contract is up too, right?
[10:49] Speaker 1: He can opt out, I believe. Yeah, he can opt out.
[10:52] Speaker 1: Take half, give half to Kyrie. All minimum. You know,
[10:55] Speaker 1: get rid of a few people here and there.
[10:57] Speaker 2: And then throw a little contract under the table.
[11:01] Speaker 1: We Gucci. We need Giannis too. Right? So LeBron gonna
[11:05] Speaker 1: have to take the vet minimum. Get Giannis.
[11:08] Speaker 3: LeBron take the vet minimum.
[11:09] Speaker 1: LeBron take the vet minimum. We get half. You want
[11:11] Speaker 1: a lot.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Half to Kyrie, half to Giannis. Give Giannis a couple
[11:16] Speaker 2: buildings somewhere.
[11:17] Speaker 1: Where is he from? What's his religion? I mean, that's
[11:20] Speaker 1: your religion. Greco-Nigerian. We'll give him. We're the Nigerian part
[11:22] Speaker 1: of LA. We don't have Greektown, but we'll make one. Yeah,
[11:25] Speaker 1: we can own that. We can own that. You know
[11:27] Speaker 1: what I mean? We got a great deal, y'all. You
[11:29] Speaker 1: need Pondale? We got Pondale for you. You can have Pondale, y'all.
[11:31] Speaker 1: You come. But after the game, Luka had this to
[11:34] Speaker 1: say about facing his former team for the first time.
[11:37] Speaker 1: It was just a lot of emotions, and I'm asleep.
[11:41] Speaker 1: But I can't even explain. It was a different game.
[11:47] Speaker 2: Like I said, sometimes I don't know what I was doing,
[11:50] Speaker 2: and I'm just glad it's over, honestly.
[11:54] Speaker 1: Immediately following the game, Lucas said he couldn't wait to
[11:56] Speaker 1: get home, get to sleep. You know what?
[11:58] Speaker 2: Can you please translate what he's trying to say in.
[12:04] Speaker 1: Slovenia? Slovenia.
[12:05] Speaker 2: No, superstar status.
[12:06] Speaker 3: Go.
[12:07] Speaker 1: I just busted you bitch niggas' ass for trading me. No,
[12:09] Speaker 1: I said superstar. Superstar, like professional. Kobe. That was professional. No,
[12:14] Speaker 1: that's young Ratchet.
[12:15] Speaker 2: You know, because he's the face, but because he's foreign,
[12:18] Speaker 2: they don't really speak very well. So you got to
[12:20] Speaker 2: give it to him.
[12:21] Speaker 1: My friends. All right? Take these out of my friends.
[12:27] Speaker 2: You know, you was listening to him like, yeah, we
[12:28] Speaker 2: need some work to do, Luca. You might need a
[12:32] Speaker 2: penny doll or something.
[12:33] Speaker 1: Just a little Luca doll that can speak for you. Okay,
[12:35] Speaker 1: Chris Rock. Right now, brother, you're struggling. So most of
[12:40] Speaker 1: the Gills Arena crew was at the game, living the
[12:42] Speaker 1: sweet life like Zach and Cody, and most of us
[12:44] Speaker 1: stayed for the entire game. Kenyon, you were overcome with
[12:47] Speaker 1: emotion watching this new-look Lakers squad send a statement to
[12:51] Speaker 1: the city of Dallas where you grew up, but you
[12:52] Speaker 1: left a little early. Cemetery Larry mysteriously disappeared with about
[12:56] Speaker 1: a minute to go in the game. We just looked up.
[12:58] Speaker 1: He was gone. He said what in the game? About
[13:00] Speaker 1: a minute to go. Five. No, it was about five. No,
[13:02] Speaker 1: he was gone before me. Yeah, he was gone. Five minutes.
[13:05] Speaker 1: He stayed to see if they were going to make
[13:06] Speaker 1: that run. No, he was gone. Oh, he did? He
[13:08] Speaker 1: left before me. We were talking. He was sitting behind me.
[13:11] Speaker 1: I looked back. He left before me.
[13:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:13] Speaker 1: We didn't know if he was okay or not. I
[13:14] Speaker 1: left for two minutes. Yeah, he left about two minutes.
[13:16] Speaker 1: He left for like four, five minutes. I was speed
[13:19] Speaker 1: walking out of there. But he did emerge in the
[13:21] Speaker 1: group chat this morning, so we know that he's okay. Okay.
[13:24] Speaker 1: But y'all ask you first, how did Luka look in
[13:27] Speaker 1: his first game? Amazing. Okay. No, I mean, you know,
[13:31] Speaker 1: what he brings.
[13:36] Speaker 2: That's why the trade is laughable. Like, we really excited.
[13:42] Speaker 2: And no matter what excuse you make, we don't care.
[13:44] Speaker 2: You're not saying that because there's things there's things super.
[13:50] Speaker 2: I mean, everybody has their own thing, but there's players
[13:53] Speaker 2: in the league that has this thing that you can't
[13:57] Speaker 2: quantify with regular stats. When Luca drives the defense itself
[14:05] Speaker 2: have to play perfect basketball because he's so smart, so
[14:09] Speaker 2: patient that any misstep, he's going to find a pass.
[14:16] Speaker 2: He's going to make a layup. You know, like Kobe
[14:19] Speaker 2: with his pump fake, right? When Giannis on a fast break.
[14:24] Speaker 2: There's just things you can't calculate on a stat sheet
[14:28] Speaker 2: that he brings to the game. So when you're watching
[14:31] Speaker 2: him drive the ball, every time he drove the ball,
[14:34] Speaker 2: you're like, something's going.
[14:35] Speaker 1: To happen, right?
[14:37] Speaker 2: You can't game plan for when he drives. You can't
[14:39] Speaker 2: stay home. You can't dive. You know, he'll fake like
[14:42] Speaker 2: he's taking a shot, and you all suck it, and
[14:44] Speaker 2: he'll throw that pass. There's just these things that certain
[14:47] Speaker 2: players have that you can't measure it. So when you're
[14:51] Speaker 2: watching him last night, and he's just making these passes,
[14:55] Speaker 2: and every pass looks better than the last, just reminds
[14:57] Speaker 2: you of a Magic Johnson type, a Jason Kidd type,
[15:04] Speaker 2: where when you're playing help defense, you You have to
[15:09] Speaker 2: be alert. And that's what he brings to the Lakers,
[15:12] Speaker 2: that you're not going to be able to see it
[15:13] Speaker 2: on a stat sheet.
[15:15] Speaker 1: And we thought Luka would have a dominant game, dominant
[15:19] Speaker 1: across the stat sheet, though. He did have a triple-double,
[15:21] Speaker 1: his first triple-double with the Lakers, but it was six
[15:23] Speaker 1: for 17. Created 53 points. But what I really appreciated
[15:26] Speaker 1: was the rest of the team allowing him to kind
[15:28] Speaker 1: of battle through that. Then LeBron fourth quarter said, all right,
[15:31] Speaker 1: I got you, young fella. I'll use my 40-year-old championship experience.
[15:36] Speaker 3: And I feel like it's always hard playing against your
[15:40] Speaker 3: old team after you get traded because you have so
[15:44] Speaker 3: many emotions. You want to do good. You want to
[15:46] Speaker 3: bust their ass. And you're thinking about, especially in his case,
[15:51] Speaker 3: being a superstar, getting traded, probably a little upset. So
[15:56] Speaker 3: you're battling all kinds of things off the court. So
[15:59] Speaker 3: when you're out there, your first shot might be long
[16:01] Speaker 3: or something. But I don't think you can speed Luka up.
[16:05] Speaker 3: He play at his 35 and older pace all game.
[16:07] Speaker 3: You can't speed him up.
[16:09] Speaker 1: For real. Swag, you talk about that emotions. Luka picked
[16:12] Speaker 1: up a tech first three minutes of the game, very fiery,
[16:15] Speaker 1: you know, going at the refs. That was an issue
[16:17] Speaker 1: he had in Dallas. I think Mavs fans had a
[16:19] Speaker 1: problem with, or not Mavs, but the Mavs had a
[16:21] Speaker 1: problem with. Do you foresee any of that being an
[16:24] Speaker 1: issue on this Lakers squad? Talking back to the refs.
[16:26] Speaker 1: I think we want that. I think we like that
[16:29] Speaker 1: fire here. I think JJ talked about that. But what
[16:32] Speaker 1: I was.
[16:33] Speaker 3: More impressed with, you know, how AD was in the
[16:36] Speaker 3: building and he was still saying thank you, Nico, in
[16:41] Speaker 3: front of him.
[16:41] Speaker 1: So, you know, Lakers fans be gangsters, bro. Think about it. Right?
[16:46] Speaker 1: He's sitting right there. Sitting there looking good and they're saying,
[16:49] Speaker 1: thank you. Thank you.
[16:51] Speaker 2: We gave you, we gave AD a thank you.
[16:53] Speaker 1: And then they gave Nico a thank you. Like, damn,
[16:56] Speaker 1: y'all savage. Nico Harrison did not get a tribute video. Should've.
[16:59] Speaker 1: Much to our surprise. Should've gotten one. AD had a
[17:02] Speaker 1: very nice tribute video. Obviously, did not play in that game.
[17:05] Speaker 1: Let's shift it over to this side of the couch. Mr. B,
[17:07] Speaker 1: that Laker bandwagon calling you.
[17:09] Speaker 2: L.A.
[17:10] Speaker 1: Representative, Compton Gardena. Yeah.
[17:13] Speaker 4: No, I think for Luka, though, any time you can
[17:15] Speaker 4: play against a team that traded you, you know, that's
[17:17] Speaker 4: always going to add some fire to you. I mean,
[17:20] Speaker 4: they look good, but, you know, J.J., man, they got them.
[17:24] Speaker 4: He got them playing on a different type of level
[17:25] Speaker 4: right now. Their energy, just everybody. So I'm more impressed
[17:29] Speaker 4: just with the team and how the Lakers are just
[17:31] Speaker 4: becoming that team again that L.A.
[17:33] Speaker 1: Knows. He said something nice about J.J. He did say something.
[17:36] Speaker 4: Nice about him? I apologized yesterday to J.J. because I
[17:38] Speaker 4: wasn't familiar with his, you know, I wasn't familiar with
[17:41] Speaker 4: the way he got things going. So I'm like, I'm
[17:44] Speaker 4: impressed right now. I ain't got nothing bad to say.
[17:46] Speaker 1: And then last but not least, Kenyon, no, you're not
[17:48] Speaker 1: a Lakers fan. You made that very clear. You sound
[17:50] Speaker 1: like he's singing today, boy. But what did you think
[17:52] Speaker 1: about Luka in his first game against the Mavericks?
[17:54] Speaker 4: Nine and two.
[17:55] Speaker 1: That's great. What did you think about Luka's performance in
[17:58] Speaker 1: his first game against the Dallas Mavericks, the team that
[18:00] Speaker 1: traded him? Called him fat.
[18:01] Speaker 4: Lazy.
[18:03] Speaker 1: Lazy.
[18:04] Speaker 3: What happened?
[18:05] Speaker 1: You were at the game. We were in the stadium.
[18:08] Speaker 5: Oh, I was there. I really wasn't fucking watching. He
[18:10] Speaker 5: was watching. I really wasn't watching, to be honest. You
[18:13] Speaker 5: seemed very locked in. Yeah, to the conversations that I
[18:16] Speaker 5: was having amongst staff.
[18:17] Speaker 1: You did have a whole crew.
[18:19] Speaker 5: I was having real-life conversations amongst shit that was going on,
[18:23] Speaker 5: so I really... Yeah. No, but it's... Yeah, the player
[18:30] Speaker 5: gets your old team. I'll go that route.
[18:31] Speaker 1: The player gets your old team, right?
[18:32] Speaker 5: Yeah, like the player gets your old team, the emotions
[18:35] Speaker 5: of it. In the middle of the season is crazy, right?
[18:43] Speaker 5: Me going from the Nets to the Nuggets and then
[18:45] Speaker 5: the first facing them again is... It was during the offseason,
[18:50] Speaker 5: but I couldn't imagine if it happened during the season.
[18:53] Speaker 2: You're this guy for that team and they... Yeah, I
[18:57] Speaker 2: just couldn't imagine, you know what I'm saying? But you won't...
[18:59] Speaker 2: Like Nick said, you want to play well. You want
[19:00] Speaker 2: to always have the upper hand in the situation when
[19:03] Speaker 2: you're facing the guys who got rid of you. When
[19:07] Speaker 2: you thought that situation was going to be a long-term
[19:10] Speaker 2: situation for you, for that not to be a thing
[19:13] Speaker 2: and to have to face those, the.
[19:18] Speaker 1: People that did it, right?
[19:19] Speaker 5: Nico's in the building, so it's... And you got to
[19:24] Speaker 5: give Niko credit for showing up too. Like, so some
[19:26] Speaker 5: guys would have set up in the suite, or they
[19:28] Speaker 5: would have sat.
[19:28] Speaker 1: In the back, right?
[19:30] Speaker 2: He was right in prime time, so that says a
[19:32] Speaker 2: lot about him. Like, I'm going to stand on this, right?
[19:34] Speaker 2: So that's, right?
[19:36] Speaker 1: He can stand on glass all he want. I'm with you, but.
[19:39] Speaker 5: So I was thinking about it, right? So you, if,
[19:44] Speaker 5: I hate the word, but Anthony Davis is healthy and.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a better game.
[19:50] Speaker 5: I'm thinking about long-term. I'm not even thinking about just
[19:53] Speaker 5: this one game. I'm thinking about long-term. What did you...
[19:56] Speaker 5: So you traded....
[19:59] Speaker 1: Your today and your future. But I'm talking about just... Yes, but....
[20:06] Speaker 5: You traded assists for rebounds and blocks, right? Because the points, yeah,
[20:13] Speaker 5: it isn't. But Luka creates assists for absolutely, and it's
[20:18] Speaker 5: going to be more than AD's output, yes, on the
[20:22] Speaker 5: offensive end, absolutely. But the totality of the game, I
[20:29] Speaker 5: don't think Dallas lost.
[20:31] Speaker 1: They actually did, because.
[20:32] Speaker 5: In the totality of the game, what Anthony Davis brings.
[20:35] Speaker 1: No, you didn't lose.
[20:36] Speaker 3: What Anthony Davis brings, for.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Him just to match Luka's offensive output... It's just 37.
[20:46] Speaker 1: His 37.
[20:46] Speaker 2: His defensive output has to be six blocks a game just.
[20:50] Speaker 1: To equal out that block. It's more than that. It
[20:52] Speaker 1: ain't just the blocks. I think they just made that.
[20:54] Speaker 1: Because it's deterring actual buckets.
[20:56] Speaker 5: No, Gil, but it's being able to switch pick and rolls.
[20:59] Speaker 5: It's being able to. It ain't just.
[21:01] Speaker 2: So you only looking at the statistical part of it. Like,
[21:04] Speaker 2: that's the only thing you're looking at. It's more to
[21:07] Speaker 2: the game than just stats.
[21:09] Speaker 1: Yes, but what I'm saying is you play for the
[21:12] Speaker 1: surface part of it.
[21:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, the surface part, yeah. What you're saying, yes.
[21:18] Speaker 5: But there's an underlying shit to that, too, to basketball.
[21:21] Speaker 5: That shit that people don't see that Anthony Davis brings
[21:24] Speaker 5: to the table when healthy. When he's out there, you
[21:27] Speaker 5: are a better basketball team. You are overall, no matter
[21:32] Speaker 5: what team you're on, no matter what he's on, they're
[21:35] Speaker 5: a better basketball team with Anthony Davis on the floor.
[21:40] Speaker 5: You guys got better with what Luka brings to the table, yes.
[21:44] Speaker 5: But what Dallas needed, they needed, they don't have a
[21:49] Speaker 5: big that can score. They don't have a big that
[21:51] Speaker 5: can knock down jump shots. They don't have a big that,
[21:54] Speaker 5: they had bigs that could rebound, maybe block a shot,
[21:57] Speaker 5: but they weren't versatile on the perimeter, being able to
[22:00] Speaker 5: guard different positions, having that winning experience. Gafford don't have that.
[22:05] Speaker 5: Lively don't have that. So he brings that to the table.
[22:09] Speaker 2: You're thinking his defense, what he brings defensively, switching and
[22:15] Speaker 2: all that, can take up for all of the offense
[22:18] Speaker 2: that loses.
[22:19] Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that, Gil. I'm not saying that.
[22:23] Speaker 1: Kyrie has to be Kyrie. He's going to be him.
[22:25] Speaker 1: But remember, Luka does Luka too, with Kyrie doing Kyrie.
[22:31] Speaker 1: There's nothing Anthony Davis can do To match the whole game?
[22:35] Speaker 3: He didn't have his game last night? Who's saying match?
[22:38] Speaker 3: It looked like they would have probably won if AD
[22:40] Speaker 3: was playing.
[22:40] Speaker 1: Who are the ones? Who's trying to match it? Last night.
[22:43] Speaker 1: You have to. Who's trying to match it?
[22:45] Speaker 2: It's a different style of play. It's different players. Anthony
[22:49] Speaker 2: Davis being in Dallas and being healthy is going to
[22:53] Speaker 2: help them.
[22:55] Speaker 1: You can't say that it's not. Right, no, for sure.
[22:58] Speaker 2: If you know basketball like I think you do and
[23:00] Speaker 2: you honest with yourself, you can't sit on this fucking
[23:03] Speaker 2: couch and tell me that him being healthy not going
[23:05] Speaker 2: to help that team.
[23:06] Speaker 1: It looks dangerous when he's playing. It's not.
[23:08] Speaker 2: Huh?
[23:09] Speaker 1: It's not. Because you're losing two birds with one stone.
[23:12] Speaker 2: You're losing Luka's output, yes, that we watched him give
[23:17] Speaker 2: all these people wide-open shots, not contested, butt-naked shots, right?
[23:24] Speaker 1: As Black and Miles said.
[23:25] Speaker 2: Butt-naked, wide-open shots. That's a whole different... And you still
[23:29] Speaker 2: got to make them, right? But it's still wide-open. Y'all
[23:31] Speaker 2: still got to make them, though.
[23:33] Speaker 1: He can have them make them same passes to them
[23:35] Speaker 1: son of bitches y'all got on y'all team right now. Who? Cool.
[23:38] Speaker 2: Vando, Black and Black, all them motherfuckers wide.
[23:41] Speaker 1: Open, right? Yeah. They can make them same fucking passes,
[23:45] Speaker 1: and some of them motherfuckers can't hit their ass with
[23:47] Speaker 1: both hands.
[23:48] Speaker 2: Okay, but what I'm saying is they're wide open.
[23:51] Speaker 1: Dallas... P.J.
[23:54] Speaker 2: Washington and all, they had wide open last year.
[23:57] Speaker 1: Yes.
[23:58] Speaker 2: They don't have wide open this year. That's why P.J.
[24:00] Speaker 2: Washington can go zero.
[24:02] Speaker 1: Okay.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Because the game changed for his style.
[24:05] Speaker 1: And it's going to be... So you don't think it's
[24:07] Speaker 1: going to change ADL? So you act like this. So
[24:10] Speaker 1: who's coaching his team? No one doubles AD. Right? Okay.
[24:14] Speaker 5: Who's coaching his team in Dallas? It's a motherfucker that
[24:17] Speaker 5: knows the game of basketball, right?
[24:18] Speaker 1: Very well. This is my point guard I had.
[24:21] Speaker 2: One thing for sure I know about him, he going
[24:24] Speaker 2: to put that boy on the block and he going
[24:26] Speaker 2: to throw him the ball and he ain't going to
[24:27] Speaker 2: deviate from it. So therefore, they get in the penalty.
[24:30] Speaker 2: There's a lot to this game.
[24:31] Speaker 1: You don't get in the penalty.
[24:32] Speaker 2: They will with the coach deal. Goddamn, dude. You act
[24:36] Speaker 2: like these motherfuckers not being coached well.
[24:38] Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a bad squad.
[24:40] Speaker 4: So you said AD wasn't coached well in LA to
[24:42] Speaker 4: be able to do that?
[24:43] Speaker 2: I guess you can go from one coach and you
[24:46] Speaker 2: should turn around jump shots.
[24:47] Speaker 1: Yes, he can put a battery in your back. And
[24:49] Speaker 1: then you go to another coach and.
[24:50] Speaker 2: Then you automatically become Giannis.
[24:52] Speaker 1: He can put a battery in your back.
[24:54] Speaker 2: So you don't think he can't... Listen, this is what
[24:57] Speaker 2: this man used to tell me. Hey, if I'm posting
[25:00] Speaker 2: up in a certain... Now, fuck that. Get your ass
[25:02] Speaker 2: on the block. Right?
[25:06] Speaker 1: I'm telling.
[25:07] Speaker 5: I was there when he coached Giannis.
[25:09] Speaker 1: Right?
[25:10] Speaker 5: I'm hearing the message that J. Kid is telling this boy.
[25:13] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. This is what, it's the totality of it, Gil.
[25:17] Speaker 1: It ain't just the scoring part that you want to,
[25:20] Speaker 1: the scoring and assists are that. Yes, absolutely.
[25:23] Speaker 2: The Lakers will benefit if they are making shots.
[25:26] Speaker 1: Let's see.
[25:27] Speaker 5: Y'all scored 107 points last night, which ain't fucking that remarkable.
[25:32] Speaker 1: Emotional game. Right? It don't matter.
[25:34] Speaker 3: Y'all scored 107. You don't think AD playing in his
[25:37] Speaker 3: right position ain't going to.
[25:38] Speaker 1: It ain't like y'all shooting the lights out with this
[25:40] Speaker 1: motherfucker and giving y'all a wide open shot.
[25:42] Speaker 3: AD playing in his right position ain't going to be
[25:44] Speaker 3: good for Dallas? That's like a Laker team when he
[25:46] Speaker 3: played the four and they won a championship.
[25:47] Speaker 1: You're talking about a Dallas squad that's missing.
[25:50] Speaker 4: We're talking about just for this year. Because what happens...
[25:54] Speaker 4: Because Kyrie.
[25:55] Speaker 1: Can opt out, right? He can come to the Lakers.
[25:57] Speaker 1: He ain't going nowhere.
[25:58] Speaker 4: You don't think Kyrie will leave?
[25:59] Speaker 1: No. Nah, they gonna pay him everything. He's not going anywhere.
[26:03] Speaker 5: He's in a situation where them people believe in him,
[26:05] Speaker 5: love him, treat him a certain way.
[26:07] Speaker 1: It ain't them other spots. Yeah. He look happy.
[26:10] Speaker 5: They letting that man be him. They ain't fucking with him.
[26:13] Speaker 5: They letting him play basketball uninterrupted without all the hoot.
[26:19] Speaker 1: Living in a great fucking city.
[26:21] Speaker 4: But do they get back to the finals?
[26:23] Speaker 1: You don't think they.
[26:24] Speaker 3: Get to the finals?
[26:25] Speaker 4: But do you think they get back to the finals?
[26:26] Speaker 1: Okay, who's creating the double team? I don't know. I
[26:28] Speaker 1: don't know. Who creates the double team? I don't know.
[26:31] Speaker 1: Who creates the double teams on Dallas Mavericks? Yeah, they score.
[26:34] Speaker 1: To get the open shots.
[26:36] Speaker 2: To get the wide open shots for the statues that
[26:40] Speaker 2: they have built a team around. Mm-hmm. Who's going to
[26:44] Speaker 2: get those guys open shots off of double teams? Mm-hmm.
[26:51] Speaker 5: So let me ask you a question. So that's the
[26:53] Speaker 5: only way guys can get shots is off double teams, Gil?
[26:57] Speaker 5: So you can't call plays and run action for guys
[27:00] Speaker 5: to get wide open shots? The only way that you
[27:02] Speaker 5: can get wide open shots in a basketball game is
[27:04] Speaker 5: for somebody to be double teamed?
[27:07] Speaker 1: For the team that they have. I didn't ask you that.
[27:10] Speaker 1: We're talking about that team.
[27:11] Speaker 5: So the only way that they can get shots, if someone,
[27:15] Speaker 5: if one person is double teamed, the only way that
[27:17] Speaker 5: they can get shots.
[27:19] Speaker 2: How many plays did P.J. Washington get yesterday? I didn't
[27:22] Speaker 2: watch the game, so I couldn't fucking tell.
[27:24] Speaker 1: Zero? You watched it? Zero? Zero? Couldn't fucking tell? See,
[27:28] Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
[27:28] Speaker 2: Is how many plays I'm talking about that team. The
[27:32] Speaker 2: team was built around this player being double teamed. So
[27:36] Speaker 2: answer my question. You haven't answered my question. I'm answering
[27:38] Speaker 2: your question for this. You haven't answered my question. It's
[27:40] Speaker 2: a yes or no question. The team was built around
[27:43] Speaker 2: this man being double teamed.
[27:45] Speaker 1: It's a yes or no question.
[27:46] Speaker 2: So I got players who didn't dribble the ball.
[27:47] Speaker 1: It's a yes or no question. They just sit and
[27:49] Speaker 1: shoot shots. It's a yes or no question.
[27:50] Speaker 2: Now that means this man.
[27:53] Speaker 1: When he catches the ball... Everybody got that. Everybody got that.
[27:57] Speaker 4: Was P.J.
[27:57] Speaker 5: Washington a catch-and-shoot guy before he got to Dallas?
[28:00] Speaker 1: No. No, he wasn't. Was Max.
[28:02] Speaker 5: The guy y'all just got, he's not a catch-and-shoot guy.
[28:05] Speaker 1: He's a playmaker. He puts the ball on the ground.
[28:08] Speaker 5: Najee Marshall is not a catch-and-shoot guy. He's put the
[28:10] Speaker 5: ball on... So what are you saying? So you still
[28:13] Speaker 5: ain't answering my fucking question.
[28:14] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. You won't know.
[28:16] Speaker 3: It's the only way.
[28:16] Speaker 1: No.
[28:17] Speaker 2: It's the only way. Answer the question. This don't even matter.
[28:20] Speaker 2: Answer the question. The history.
[28:22] Speaker 1: Answer the question. You still didn't answer the question.
[28:24] Speaker 2: The reason it doesn't matter is because.
[28:25] Speaker 1: You still didn't answer the question.
[28:26] Speaker 2: Right now it's just our opinions. And then there has
[28:28] Speaker 2: to be a final product. I would just wait until
[28:30] Speaker 2: the final product. He asked me to get to the finals.
[28:32] Speaker 2: I said, I don't know.
[28:33] Speaker 1: So therefore. I said no. So therefore. I said, I
[28:35] Speaker 1: don't know. So you don't know what it is. So therefore.
[28:37] Speaker 3: So I'm saying.
[28:38] Speaker 1: I'm going on record saying no. So don't go to
[28:40] Speaker 1: the finals this year. Yes. I'm right. Cool. Go to
[28:45] Speaker 1: the finals.
[28:45] Speaker 4: You said this year.
[28:46] Speaker 1: I didn't say I'm right. I didn't say they could.
[28:48] Speaker 2: I said I don't know. I don't know who's going
[28:50] Speaker 2: to the finals. Don't nobody know who's going to the
[28:52] Speaker 2: fucking finals.
[28:53] Speaker 1: We don't know.
[28:53] Speaker 3: So therefore, Gil, it's the only way in basketball to.
[28:58] Speaker 2: Get a shot for someone to be double teamed.
[29:02] Speaker 1: For guys who can't get their own shots.
[29:03] Speaker 3: I'm like, who's going to?
[29:05] Speaker 1: That's the only way.
[29:06] Speaker 4: When is he coming back?
[29:06] Speaker 1: For someone to be double-teamed. That's what I'm saying. If
[29:09] Speaker 1: you can't create your own shots, someone has to be double-teamed.
[29:11] Speaker 1: You can't dribble. To get a swing, swing, someone has
[29:14] Speaker 1: to be double-teamed. Someone has to be double-teamed.
[29:17] Speaker 2: So penetration in the lane and guys come in and
[29:22] Speaker 2: don't create.
[29:22] Speaker 1: So that's a double-team? No, that's fucking not. It's penetration.
[29:27] Speaker 1: It's penetration. So, therefore, the answer to the question is no. So, therefore,
[29:30] Speaker 1: guys can get wide-open shots other than someone being double-teamed.
[29:34] Speaker 5: So, who's driving that someone is... They have plenty of
[29:36] Speaker 5: guys to drive the ball. Kyrie Irving drives the ball.
[29:38] Speaker 1: Yes.
[29:39] Speaker 5: Therefore, someone will help and someone will get a fucking
[29:41] Speaker 5: wide open shot because they had to I literally watch PJ,
[29:46] Speaker 5: because the only person I pay attention to is the
[29:48] Speaker 5: guys who are corner guys.
[29:50] Speaker 1: Are they going to get the same look?
[29:52] Speaker 2: PJ Tucker, I mean PJ Washington, we've seen it.
[29:55] Speaker 1: One game. We've seen it. One game. We've seen him benefit. Yesterday.
[29:59] Speaker 1: All it usually takes is one.
[30:02] Speaker 2: One situation, one player, one coach going to change someone else's.
[30:05] Speaker 1: So we have corner guys like who? Who's our corner guys?
[30:10] Speaker 1: Black and Mild. Black and Mild. You saw what we
[30:13] Speaker 1: did yesterday. Rui, what's the pitch? Were you watching the
[30:17] Speaker 1: game or were you not watching? What I'm saying is,
[30:19] Speaker 1: we literally seen... We literally seen... Won't play when it matters.
[30:24] Speaker 1: We've watched Luka drive.
[30:28] Speaker 5: I'm saying none of them go play when it matters.
[30:29] Speaker 1: We've watched Luka drive.
[30:31] Speaker 5: When the game's on the line, I'm going to play.
[30:35] Speaker 2: The attention that he causes.
[30:38] Speaker 4: We saw it last night.
[30:39] Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
[30:40] Speaker 1: All that is true.
[30:41] Speaker 2: Gives the guys who are meant just to be spot-up
[30:44] Speaker 2: shooters open shots.
[30:46] Speaker 1: So you don't have to... That's what those guys are?
[30:48] Speaker 1: Vando's a spot-up shooter.
[30:50] Speaker 3: Oh, but think about it.
[30:52] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, but when it's online, none of the
[30:54] Speaker 5: motherfuckers are going to be on the field.
[30:57] Speaker 1: So, it's going to.
[30:59] Speaker 5: Be six, seven guys, seven guys are going to play
[31:01] Speaker 5: when this.
[31:01] Speaker 1: Shit gets big.
[31:02] Speaker 3: Black and Mild has been playing solid.
[31:03] Speaker 1: That's now. That's when this shit matters. Okay, when it
[31:05] Speaker 1: does matter. When it matters, when it matters, it's.
[31:08] Speaker 5: Going to be seven, maybe eight guys playing.
[31:12] Speaker 1: So we're not going to talk if the Mavs can
[31:14] Speaker 1: make the finals and all that stuff, but we did
[31:15] Speaker 1: ask the chat, are the Mavs a better team with AD? 65%
[31:18] Speaker 1: say yes. Question for you guys, the Mavs, not at
[31:21] Speaker 1: full strength right now. Derek Lively's been out for a minute.
[31:23] Speaker 1: You said 65%? 65% in the chat. Think the Mavs
[31:27] Speaker 1: are a good team? Damn, a better team. Not a
[31:29] Speaker 1: good team, just a better team. But this was a
[31:31] Speaker 1: move designed for now, right? So how much pressure is
[31:33] Speaker 1: on Nico Harrison and this Mavs organization looking at the fallout,
[31:36] Speaker 1: the pissed off Mavs fans that are out there for
[31:39] Speaker 1: this team to be successful? And you talk about Kyrie,
[31:41] Speaker 1: he does have the ability to opt out this summer.
[31:44] Speaker 1: Loves Dallas. But if things go left, there's always that
[31:47] Speaker 1: ability for him to now go test the waters. Dallas
[31:49] Speaker 1: is a great city. Los Angeles is a great city
[31:51] Speaker 1: as well.
[31:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[31:52] Speaker 1: No taxes. You get to keep Moses. You get to
[31:55] Speaker 1: keep his bread. When do AD supposed to come back?
[31:57] Speaker 4: I mean, if Dallas needed a big, this is a
[31:59] Speaker 4: good move for Dallas for the long term.
[32:01] Speaker 1: When do AD supposed to come back?
[32:04] Speaker 3: We don't know.
[32:04] Speaker 1: Because he's on the, like, we....
[32:07] Speaker 5: We all sit here hypothetically thinking, like, this man going
[32:10] Speaker 5: to be healthy, this, that, and the third. We all
[32:12] Speaker 5: know the track record. We all know what it's been.
[32:15] Speaker 1: That was big with him, though.
[32:17] Speaker 3: No, for sure.
[32:17] Speaker 1: That's a big-ass thing.
[32:18] Speaker 4: But is he healthy?
[32:20] Speaker 1: What do you feel about the— Look, I'm not saying
[32:22] Speaker 1: the Mavs are going to go fine. What do you
[32:23] Speaker 1: feel about this Mavs squad? It wasn't like they gave
[32:25] Speaker 1: up Luka. That's a humongous loss. We're not taking anything
[32:27] Speaker 1: away from that. But being able to add AD, let
[32:30] Speaker 1: Kyrie take over as the number one option. You still
[32:33] Speaker 1: got Klay. Okay.
[32:36] Speaker 2: If you watch the first game, when a trade happened,
[32:40] Speaker 2: who did I say that I'm concerned about? Kyrie, right?
[32:44] Speaker 2: I said, is Kyrie going to go into point guard mode,
[32:50] Speaker 2: stop being aggressive, and focused on Anthony Davis, which takes
[32:55] Speaker 2: away who he is. And by the time he gets off,
[32:58] Speaker 2: sometimes he's out of the game. That's what happens when
[33:01] Speaker 2: he is focusing on someone. If you watch the first game...
[33:06] Speaker 2: Kyrie didn't go off until Anthony Davis got hurt. Then
[33:10] Speaker 2: he becomes the sole purpose now. From there, he took
[33:14] Speaker 2: one shot in the first quarter. That's not Kyrie with Luka.
[33:17] Speaker 2: That's Kyrie with Anthony Davis because he feels Anthony Davis.
[33:24] Speaker 1: Is the second option. He's the first option. So that's
[33:27] Speaker 1: what I'm watching.
[33:27] Speaker 2: So Kyrie's been balling now because he's by himself so
[33:33] Speaker 2: he can do what the fuck he wants to do.
[33:34] Speaker 2: What happens when Andy Davis comes there and he has
[33:37] Speaker 2: to play.
[33:38] Speaker 1: Kyrie's not going to ball with it.
[33:40] Speaker 3: I think he's going to defer too much.
[33:42] Speaker 2: He's going to defer too much and take away what
[33:44] Speaker 2: he's great at.
[33:45] Speaker 1: But we also know AD will defer.
[33:47] Speaker 3: So we said the same thing on the topic, matter
[33:49] Speaker 3: of fact. But he's been playing great plays.
[33:52] Speaker 5: So we said the same thing that we want Kyrie
[33:54] Speaker 5: to be him.
[33:55] Speaker 1: We said the same thing.
[33:57] Speaker 5: But Gil, so the first game that they played together,
[34:00] Speaker 5: they played one game, right? You don't think No, that
[34:06] Speaker 5: was the game plan. That's the game plan. The first
[34:11] Speaker 5: game that he's there. Anthony Davis is there. You don't
[34:13] Speaker 5: think that was the game plan?
[34:14] Speaker 2: If that's the game plan, then it's a horrible game plan.
[34:16] Speaker 2: It was that game plan.
[34:17] Speaker 3: I don't know. I can only go off of that.
[34:21] Speaker 5: Anthony Davis got off early when this first game happened, right?
[34:23] Speaker 5: How many points did he have early?
[34:25] Speaker 1: 24 and a half.
[34:25] Speaker 3: 24 and a half.
[34:28] Speaker 1: So you don't think that was the game plan, Gil,
[34:30] Speaker 1: for Kyrie? They went out for that game, Gil, not overall.
[34:33] Speaker 1: And they went well. 24 for him.
[34:34] Speaker 3: I said the same thing about you.
[34:35] Speaker 1: 24 for him. What did Kyrie have? And then at halftime,
[34:38] Speaker 1: what does.
[34:48] Speaker 2: Kyrie and Luka have by the half. It's one game, Gil.
[34:52] Speaker 1: I can only go off of one game.
[34:54] Speaker 2: I can't make up what's not there.
[34:57] Speaker 1: So what are you saying? I said it before. What
[34:59] Speaker 1: do you want to be right about, Gil? I said
[35:00] Speaker 1: it before the game. Gil, what would you like to
[35:02] Speaker 1: be right about?
[35:03] Speaker 2: Did I not say it before the game?
[35:04] Speaker 1: We said the same thing.
[35:05] Speaker 2: I am watching for Kyrie and Kyrie only.
[35:08] Speaker 3: If he's going off one game, Luka was terrible his
[35:10] Speaker 3: first game.
[35:11] Speaker 1: First guy.
[35:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, so fuck it. I've watched Kyrie for a long time.
[35:16] Speaker 5: He wants to be right about something, Nick.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Please help him. I watched him in Cleveland.
[35:19] Speaker 5: Please help him be right about something right now.
[35:22] Speaker 1: As a second, third option. Because he's struggling.
[35:24] Speaker 2: I watched him go as a first option in average
[35:27] Speaker 2: 24 and struggle in that situation. Then I seen him leave,
[35:31] Speaker 2: become a second.
[35:32] Speaker 1: Third option in average 27. Okay. So I'm trying to.
[35:35] Speaker 3: Figure out which Kyrie do I get.
[35:37] Speaker 1: Do I get the 24?
[35:38] Speaker 2: Okay. as the number one option or the 27 as
[35:42] Speaker 2: the number two option. And I called it before and
[35:45] Speaker 2: it happened.
[35:46] Speaker 1: In the game. So that's all I can go off of.
[35:48] Speaker 2: I can't go hypothetical. They like to win hypothetical conversations.
[35:54] Speaker 3: That doesn't exist.
[35:58] Speaker 1: We said AD's not good at all.
[35:59] Speaker 4: So if the game plan was to get AD going early,
[36:02] Speaker 4: so is this the game plan going forward now? We
[36:06] Speaker 4: don't know. I know, so when AD come back, is
[36:09] Speaker 4: it going to be, all right, come on, let's go.
[36:11] Speaker 1: We will see. We will see. Right?
[36:16] Speaker 2: That game, first game there, let's get this. Let's show
[36:21] Speaker 2: the fans what we have. Let's feature him.
[36:24] Speaker 5: And moving forward, we don't know what it is because
[36:26] Speaker 5: the motherfucker ain't played.
[36:29] Speaker 2: So therefore, if you got an F on your report card,
[36:35] Speaker 2: I can only go off.
[36:35] Speaker 1: The fucking F.
[36:36] Speaker 2: I can't go off anything else.
[36:38] Speaker 5: So what was the F? What are you talking about?
[36:41] Speaker 5: What do you want to be right today?
[36:42] Speaker 2: Kyrie in the first quarter was an F to his
[36:45] Speaker 2: normal production.
[36:46] Speaker 5: So it couldn't have been that they were going to
[36:48] Speaker 5: throw him the ball every time?
[36:49] Speaker 1: You want me to call Jared Dudley?
[36:50] Speaker 2: I don't care what the game plan was. So why
[36:53] Speaker 2: don't you care? So we want to go on facts again, right?
[36:56] Speaker 2: So I'm going to call the assistant coach, and I'm
[36:58] Speaker 2: going to get what the game plan was, Anthony Davis'
[37:01] Speaker 2: first game. And then we'll go from there. I hope
[37:04] Speaker 2: he picks up on the first ring.
[37:05] Speaker 1: How about that? Let's go from there. If you call me,
[37:07] Speaker 1: first ring picker. Let's go from there. What was my concern?
[37:11] Speaker 1: I said the same thing you did, Gil. What was
[37:12] Speaker 1: my concern? I said the same thing you did. Kyrie's
[37:15] Speaker 1: going to be.
[37:15] Speaker 3: I said the same thing you.
[37:17] Speaker 1: Did, Gil.
[37:18] Speaker 2: If gill i said the same thing you did about
[37:21] Speaker 2: luca and kairi have a production in the first quarter
[37:24] Speaker 2: this one game of these years and then anthony davis
[37:28] Speaker 2: and kairi one game years versus one game production is years.
[37:32] Speaker 1: Versus one game i'm only going off of one game.
[37:34] Speaker 2: So you said but you just said you know i'm
[37:36] Speaker 2: you said years of production versus one game i'm saying
[37:39] Speaker 2: the production i see in the first quarter. That could
[37:43] Speaker 2: have been the game plan. I don't care what the
[37:44] Speaker 2: game plan was.
[37:46] Speaker 1: Why not?
[37:47] Speaker 2: I can only grade it. Why you don't care about
[37:49] Speaker 2: the game plan if that's the game plan? Because my
[37:51] Speaker 2: concern has nothing to do with the game plan. My
[37:52] Speaker 2: concern has to do with the person. That's why I
[37:54] Speaker 2: made the assessment. The person was a part of the
[37:56] Speaker 2: game plan.
[37:56] Speaker 1: That's why I made the assessment. So the person was
[37:59] Speaker 1: a part of the game plan. Was he not?
[38:01] Speaker 2: I made the assessment off of what? Anthony Davis having 24.
[38:04] Speaker 3: No, didn't care about Anthony Davis.
[38:06] Speaker 1: One game. We're talking about Anthony Davis here.
[38:08] Speaker 2: Kyrie's style of play.
[38:11] Speaker 1: We said the same.
[38:12] Speaker 3: Thing, Gil.
[38:12] Speaker 2: I don't care about the game plan. Listen, when the
[38:16] Speaker 2: trade went down, me and you said the exact same
[38:19] Speaker 2: thing about Kyrie Irving.
[38:21] Speaker 1: We want him to play a certain way. We said
[38:23] Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Okay. The exact same thing.
[38:27] Speaker 2: So what do you grade his first quarter prediction? I
[38:31] Speaker 2: didn't watch the fucking game. What do you grade it
[38:33] Speaker 2: compared to? I don't give it a grade. I'm not
[38:36] Speaker 2: here to grade this shit.
[38:38] Speaker 1: I'm not here to.
[38:40] Speaker 2: Fucking grade their performances, Gil, because I don't give a fuck.
[38:43] Speaker 4: He's going off one game because when it comes back,
[38:45] Speaker 4: it's going to go back to that again.
[38:46] Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about... I do know what.
[38:48] Speaker 3: I can know that the boy had 24 points in
[38:51] Speaker 3: the first half, right?
[38:53] Speaker 1: That I do know. He had 20.
[38:55] Speaker 2: My logic, being in the NBA, told me that they
[39:00] Speaker 2: threw him the ball a lot early. Mm-hmm. I didn't
[39:03] Speaker 2: have to watch the game to know that if he
[39:05] Speaker 2: had 24 points early, he was aggressive and they threw
[39:08] Speaker 2: him the fucking ball a lot.
[39:10] Speaker 1: I don't need to know what it was or who
[39:12] Speaker 1: didn't shoot the ball or what.
[39:15] Speaker 2: He had 24 early. He was aggressive. Who are you
[39:19] Speaker 2: talking about? The fucking team. Whoever threw him the goddamn ball, Gil,
[39:24] Speaker 2: whether it was Kyrie, PJ, fucking Jason Kidd, the referee
[39:29] Speaker 2: on the free throw, somebody threw him the motherfucking ball
[39:32] Speaker 2: for him to shoot it. Yes.
[39:33] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[39:35] Speaker 2: He didn't throw it to his goddamn self. He didn't
[39:38] Speaker 2: spin that bitch out like he working out and then
[39:41] Speaker 2: spin back to him and he opened up. He didn't
[39:43] Speaker 2: do none of that shit. Somebody passed him the ball,
[39:46] Speaker 2: whether it was Kyrie, whether they drew up a play
[39:48] Speaker 2: for him, whether he got an offensive rebound, the ref
[39:51] Speaker 2: passed it to him. Some way, somehow, Anthony Davis got
[39:55] Speaker 2: his hands on the fucking basketball game. The basketball that
[39:58] Speaker 2: scored 24 points.
[39:59] Speaker 1: I don't know how it got there. I didn't watch it.
[40:02] Speaker 1: I don't. Somebody threw it to him. What you're saying,
[40:06] Speaker 1: they threw it to him. Yes. Fuck, I don't know.
[40:08] Speaker 2: I'm saying I'm watching Kyrie's production.
[40:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, why Kyrie isn't being aggressive?
[40:13] Speaker 2: So I'm saying Kyrie usually produces this for this team
[40:19] Speaker 2: to be a certain way. So if they want to
[40:21] Speaker 2: feature Anthony Davis now... and Kyrie plays a docile role,
[40:27] Speaker 2: I'm saying that is not going to be a winning situation.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Kyrie needs to be a killer how he always is.
[40:35] Speaker 1: I can only go off of one thing. I can't
[40:39] Speaker 1: go off of fantasy of something that's not happening. Well,
[40:44] Speaker 1: I think we're talking too much about the losing team.
[40:47] Speaker 1: Let's talk about a winning situation.
[40:48] Speaker 2: Who?
[40:49] Speaker 1: And Rashad is in here talking about this. He's 26, bro.
[40:51] Speaker 2: And we agreed on the same fucking thing.
[40:54] Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about? Y'all are just talking, man. No,
[40:57] Speaker 1: he wasn't the killer last year. I think we spent
[40:59] Speaker 1: enough time talking about the losers of the game. Let's
[41:01] Speaker 1: focus back on the winning team. And specifically, their 40-year-old superstar.
[41:06] Speaker 1: Lakers are 15-4 in their last 19 games. Best record
[41:09] Speaker 1: in the league in that span. They got us 25
[41:10] Speaker 1: last year. What the fuck are we talking about? Again,
[41:14] Speaker 1: Lakers are 15-4 in their last 19 games, best record
[41:17] Speaker 1: in the league in that span. In the 18 games
[41:19] Speaker 1: LeBron has played in that time frame, he's averaging 27 points,
[41:22] Speaker 1: 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 54-41, 78 shooting splits. But after
[41:27] Speaker 1: the win over the Mavs, Lakers head coach J.J. Redick
[41:29] Speaker 1: had high praise for what the 40-year-old is doing on
[41:31] Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball.
[41:33] Speaker 4: This is not an exaggeration.
[41:35] Speaker 6: If you watch our basketball team every night, and you've
[41:39] Speaker 6: watched our team now for the last six weeks or so,
[41:44] Speaker 6: LeBron is playing at an all NBA defense level.
[41:48] Speaker 1: He is.
[41:50] Speaker 6: And now, you know, people may have perceptions of what
[41:55] Speaker 6: he is as a defender.
[41:57] Speaker 1: I watch it every night.
[41:59] Speaker 6: He doesn't get scored on in isolation if teams do
[42:02] Speaker 6: try to target him. He blows plays up. He's always
[42:06] Speaker 6: in the right position, shifting, recovering. I think there was
[42:12] Speaker 6: this perception of him at this age like conserving energy. No,
[42:17] Speaker 6: there's no conservation of energy on that end of the floor.
[42:21] Speaker 6: He's played a late defense now for a while.
[42:24] Speaker 1: Stop it, J.J.
[42:26] Speaker 5: Because somebody going to go get the clip of this
[42:28] Speaker 5: motherfucker not running back on defense and shit regularly now.
[42:30] Speaker 1: Let's stop it. But the best defense is a good offense, Kenyon.
[42:33] Speaker 1: I'm with you. We know.
[42:35] Speaker 5: Because there was a play last night where the motherfucker
[42:37] Speaker 5: took the shot to the ball twice, hit across half court, Gil.
[42:40] Speaker 1: Told him to stay back. We don't know if that
[42:42] Speaker 1: was in the game plan. Gil told him to stay back.
[42:44] Speaker 1: We don't know if that was the game plan, Kenyon.
[42:46] Speaker 1: That was a game plan. That was a defensive strategy.
[42:49] Speaker 1: That was a great offense. He thought about going that move,
[42:52] Speaker 1: but he took one more step. They shot it. He missed.
[42:54] Speaker 1: He took one more step.
[42:55] Speaker 3: He like, man, they got it.
[42:58] Speaker 1: JJ, continuing to glaze LeBron, as the young kids say,
[43:00] Speaker 1: but how impressive has LeBron been on both sides of
[43:02] Speaker 1: the ball this season? 40 years old, year 22. Talk
[43:05] Speaker 1: about that game last night. Had 11 points going into
[43:07] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. 16 points in the fourth, seven to nine.
[43:10] Speaker 1: But let's talk about the defensive side. There was one play,
[43:13] Speaker 1: one instance. He's smarter than everybody. That helps, bro. What play?
[43:19] Speaker 5: Like, being smarter than everybody out there. You don't... He doesn't...
[43:23] Speaker 5: He put himself in good positions to make plays defensively.
[43:27] Speaker 1: Right? When you.
[43:30] Speaker 5: So the old saying goes, smarter, not harder, right? If
[43:33] Speaker 5: I'm smarter than y'all, on that, I don't have to
[43:36] Speaker 5: work as hard.
[43:39] Speaker 1: So....
[43:42] Speaker 5: It's that simple for him, right? I'm not going to
[43:45] Speaker 5: go out there and try to guard the best guy
[43:46] Speaker 5: all the time. If I need to switch on him, yeah,
[43:49] Speaker 5: I'm going to guard him, but I'm not going to...
[43:52] Speaker 5: I'm going to be in help mode. I'm going to
[43:53] Speaker 5: be talking.
[43:54] Speaker 2: I'm going to point. I'm going to orchestrate. A lot
[43:56] Speaker 2: of that is that with him.
[43:57] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He's... Teaching.
[44:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's... You can talk your way through a
[44:02] Speaker 5: lot of defense's possessions, man. If you vocal, that go
[44:06] Speaker 5: a long way. You can be wrong spot... You talking.
[44:11] Speaker 1: It helps, so.
[44:12] Speaker 5: No, but if JJ sees it and they watch film,
[44:14] Speaker 5: and if it's that for him, that's what it is, man.
[44:18] Speaker 5: Praise LeBron for leading by example, because that's what they need.
[44:22] Speaker 5: Especially for the new guy.
[44:23] Speaker 1: Sounds like some expert analysis coming from somebody who actually
[44:26] Speaker 1: watched the game last night.
[44:27] Speaker 2: No.
[44:28] Speaker 1: In the Gills Arena suite. I thought you were about
[44:29] Speaker 1: to show a clip or something.
[44:31] Speaker 5: No, you were talking about the clip that I was
[44:32] Speaker 5: talking about.
[44:33] Speaker 2: Because what JJ's talking about, You can't watch the game
[44:37] Speaker 2: and know what he's talking about. So you're going to
[44:39] Speaker 2: just pull out a bunch of plays that shows, you know,
[44:42] Speaker 2: LeBron not going back on defense. A couple plays here
[44:50] Speaker 2: and there, but for the most part, we know that
[44:53] Speaker 2: a defensive player don't get credit for stopping a play
[44:56] Speaker 2: that's trying to happen.
[44:58] Speaker 1: Because, obviously....
[45:01] Speaker 2: The people who are voting for these awards don't know
[45:03] Speaker 2: what the office of plays is to know what this.
[45:06] Speaker 1: Player actually did, right?
[45:08] Speaker 2: So if you know I'm doing chin out fifth or
[45:10] Speaker 2: chin out reverse something and then you pre rotate over
[45:13] Speaker 2: and bust it all up now I got to go
[45:15] Speaker 2: to a second option because you done read the play.
[45:17] Speaker 1: They don't credit you for that Right?
[45:20] Speaker 2: So, you know, if the coach is saying that he
[45:22] Speaker 2: stops a lot of plays, only the team knows that
[45:25] Speaker 2: because they know the playbook that what Dallas is trying
[45:28] Speaker 2: to do or what everybody is trying to do. All
[45:30] Speaker 2: we're doing is just watching. It's, oh, he got back door,
[45:32] Speaker 2: he's not there.
[45:33] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[45:34] Speaker 3: I'll let y'all go.
[45:35] Speaker 1: In effect, so, the man is in year what? 22.
[45:40] Speaker 2: There's not one play, not one situation, not one that
[45:45] Speaker 2: he hasn't seen or been in.
[45:47] Speaker 5: It's... It was the Tom Brady thing, right? There was
[45:53] Speaker 5: no defense that you could have threw at Tom Brady
[45:55] Speaker 5: that he ain't fucking seen.
[45:57] Speaker 4: Right?
[45:57] Speaker 1: There's nothing that he ain't seen. Tom Brady considered the GOAT? Yeah, absolutely.
[46:02] Speaker 2: And, no, so therefore, no, it's, like, it just, once
[46:07] Speaker 2: this is in tune with the game and you see it, like,
[46:10] Speaker 2: the game is so slow for him. Like, the game is, like,
[46:14] Speaker 2: he's moving fast, it'll seem like, but the game is
[46:16] Speaker 2: really in slow motion for him. There's three players last
[46:22] Speaker 2: night that's playing in slow motion.
[46:25] Speaker 3: Kyrie, Luka, and LeBron. LeBron ain't doing nothing but guarding
[46:30] Speaker 3: the asses person on each team. He's a four-man guarding
[46:33] Speaker 3: the asses person on each team.
[46:35] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[46:37] Speaker 3: He's like me at the loop in my 35. So
[46:40] Speaker 3: what is your job?
[46:41] Speaker 1: Defenders get the good people, get the good people.
[46:43] Speaker 2: Okay, so playing the ass.
[46:46] Speaker 3: Good defenders get the good people, and I get the
[46:48] Speaker 3: ass first.
[46:49] Speaker 2: Okay, so when you play the ass.
[46:50] Speaker 1: I get rebounds and shoot, do what I do. So
[46:52] Speaker 1: when you play the ass. So LeBron is the four man.
[46:54] Speaker 3: Ain't no four man in the league that he got
[46:57] Speaker 3: to really worry about now but AD. AD wasn't out there,
[47:00] Speaker 3: so you have to guard him. You have to guard
[47:02] Speaker 3: fucking who else? Who was the four man for their
[47:05] Speaker 3: team last night? Najee Muhammad, what's the nigga's name?
[47:10] Speaker 1: Yes, him.
[47:10] Speaker 3: Yes, him.
[47:11] Speaker 1: He don't have to guard nobody. It's true.
[47:13] Speaker 3: It's good, though, to be at his age. He don't
[47:15] Speaker 3: need to. Okay, so.
[47:17] Speaker 1: But he don't have to guard nobody.
[47:19] Speaker 2: So, again, when you're that person guarding those non-players, what
[47:23] Speaker 2: is your actual job, Nick?
[47:26] Speaker 4: To make sure everybody.
[47:28] Speaker 3: He got to rebound. He got to guard fucking P.J.
[47:31] Speaker 1: Tucker.
[47:32] Speaker 3: So when he's guarding P.J.
[47:33] Speaker 1: Tucker, what is his actual... P.J. Tucker, P.J. Washington. And
[47:39] Speaker 1: he's guarding him. So what is his actual role?
[47:41] Speaker 3: He ain't none of these back doors and shit if
[47:43] Speaker 3: he ain't worried about somebody on the defensive end. He
[47:47] Speaker 3: shouldn't be getting back doors. All that shit shouldn't happen.
[47:50] Speaker 3: If he got to guard somebody that fucking can't sleep.
[47:52] Speaker 1: Okay, as a defensive player.
[47:55] Speaker 3: I know you want to gas him up, but shit,
[47:57] Speaker 3: he ain't guarding nobody.
[47:58] Speaker 1: Let me ask an actual somebody.
[47:59] Speaker 2: As a defensive player, if they're putting you on a
[48:03] Speaker 2: non-factor score, what is your job?
[48:06] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I'm trolling everything. Right? You're doing what? I'm
[48:09] Speaker 1: controlling everything. Controlling everything. Everything. That means you're stopping. I
[48:13] Speaker 1: think he said it. You're stopping all plays.
[48:15] Speaker 2: You're busting it up the plays because you don't have
[48:18] Speaker 2: to worry about a man. So he's the net guy.
[48:21] Speaker 2: He's the guy that they're trying to do something.
[48:24] Speaker 3: He's blocking it.
[48:25] Speaker 2: He's doing a 2.9.
[48:26] Speaker 1: He's here.
[48:27] Speaker 2: He's calling out the defense. He becomes the roamer.
[48:30] Speaker 3: So he just started doing that in these last couple
[48:32] Speaker 3: games they won?
[48:33] Speaker 1: No, he's been doing that. He's been doing that shit.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Lakers defense in his last 19 games. He's been doing
[48:38] Speaker 1: that shit. One of the best in the league. He
[48:39] Speaker 1: just started to look good now. Let's talk about the
[48:42] Speaker 1: Luka-LeBron combo. That was like a great defender, right?
[48:46] Speaker 2: When Ben Wallace had to guard the primary.
[48:50] Speaker 1: Score in the post. He was getting his ass busted
[48:53] Speaker 1: in the post. Right?
[48:54] Speaker 2: He was getting his ass busted in the post. When
[48:56] Speaker 2: they bring Rasheed Wallace over and Rasheed took the lead,
[49:02] Speaker 2: Ben Wallace became more dangerous defensively.
[49:05] Speaker 5: We swept my Nets team. We got that broom out
[49:11] Speaker 5: on said Pistons team. Without Rasheed Wallace, they get Rasheed Wallace,
[49:17] Speaker 5: they go win it. They beat us and go. so therefore,
[49:20] Speaker 5: what he's saying is actual facts.
[49:22] Speaker 4: Uh-oh.
[49:24] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[49:26] Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying is, I want him guarding Antoine Jamison.
[49:31] Speaker 3: I don't want him.
[49:32] Speaker 2: Guarding Jared Jeffries. Because if he's guarding Jared Jeffries, he's sitting.
[49:38] Speaker 1: There trying to... He's stopping everything. He's way more dangerous.
[49:42] Speaker 5: Because I'm in action all the time if I'm guarding Twan.
[49:44] Speaker 1: I can say, okay, let's do the pick and roll.
[49:46] Speaker 1: Let's fuck with him. Get me out of the play.
[49:48] Speaker 2: He's going to sit at the rim waiting.
[49:51] Speaker 1: You can't do this back door. Hey, back door. Back door.
[49:55] Speaker 1: Switch it. Like, oh, God damn.
[49:56] Speaker 5: They're getting rid of something. I just say, hey, man,
[49:59] Speaker 5: deny that. Just take the fucking player away. That's what
[50:03] Speaker 5: the people don't realize. Michael Jordan, if you listen to B.J. Armstrong,
[50:09] Speaker 5: they said Michael Jordan's problem was what? Chasing balls around. Like,
[50:13] Speaker 5: coming and following his player.
[50:15] Speaker 1: No doubt. Chasing balls around.
[50:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a ball watcher.
[50:19] Speaker 1: He was a ball watcher.
[50:22] Speaker 2: He's tracking the offense. So he was great at stealing, right?
[50:27] Speaker 1: Snapping back.
[50:28] Speaker 2: He was horrible guarding someone.
[50:30] Speaker 1: Like Reggie Miller coming off the pick and roll. That
[50:32] Speaker 1: wasn't his skill. His skill was.
[50:35] Speaker 2: Locking everything down, closing up. That's why Pippen and Rodman
[50:39] Speaker 2: went there.
[50:40] Speaker 1: Got you. Right?
[50:41] Speaker 2: So when you talk about somebody like A.I., The problem
[50:45] Speaker 2: with A.I. was, because he was little, he was a
[50:48] Speaker 2: ball watcher. So when you're throwing passes, you're worrying about
[50:52] Speaker 2: where A.I.
[50:52] Speaker 1: Was.
[50:54] Speaker 2: Right? You throw it into the post, A.I. 's coming
[50:55] Speaker 2: somewhere because he's not guarding anybody. That's gonna be scoring.
[50:59] Speaker 2: He's watching balls.
[51:00] Speaker 1: He's watching balls.
[51:01] Speaker 3: All right, so why is this... Why did he have
[51:03] Speaker 3: to say this about LeBron? Because everybody was talking about
[51:06] Speaker 3: his bad defense. Why do you have to come out
[51:08] Speaker 3: and defend LeBron?
[51:09] Speaker 1: I mean, the A.D.A. Somebody had to ask him.
[51:14] Speaker 3: Why is this question being asked? About the team defense.
[51:17] Speaker 3: That's what the media does. Somebody probably asked about the
[51:19] Speaker 3: team defense.
[51:19] Speaker 1: Top defensive teams.
[51:20] Speaker 4: Ain't they, like, top ten in defense right now, too?
[51:22] Speaker 1: I think in that 19-game span, I want to say
[51:24] Speaker 1: one of the top ten in the league. That's what
[51:26] Speaker 1: I'm saying. If not number one.
[51:27] Speaker 3: Before this, where was they at on defense? Before they
[51:30] Speaker 3: got Luka? Yeah. So he wasn't, like, the defender he
[51:35] Speaker 3: was before.
[51:36] Speaker 1: He's been in that defender for the longest. Let's shift
[51:39] Speaker 1: it over to the Luka-LeBron combo. Brandon, I want to
[51:42] Speaker 1: ask you, is the Luka-Bron chick the scariest duo in
[51:44] Speaker 1: the league right now? We haven't even seen Luka scratch
[51:47] Speaker 1: the surface of what he can do. We saw it
[51:48] Speaker 1: against the Nuggets when he burped Joker. The scariest duo?
[51:53] Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, if you go through, yeah, with LeBron's
[51:56] Speaker 4: knowledge and with Luka's game and what they both bring
[51:58] Speaker 4: to the table, yeah.
[52:00] Speaker 1: A slender-looking Luka, went to Cabo, worked out every day.
[52:03] Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely do. Because that's what you do when
[52:05] Speaker 4: you go to Cabo. You know, he got LeBron James
[52:07] Speaker 4: at 40 years old. But LeBron's still playing like, you know,
[52:12] Speaker 4: he wants to play for a long time. And I'm
[52:14] Speaker 4: just excited just to see them both, you know, play
[52:17] Speaker 4: these next two years, see what happens.
[52:22] Speaker 1: You say that.
[52:23] Speaker 2: Analytic-wise, the production that those two bring into the game, probably.
[52:33] Speaker 2: I think they, if you go off of what Luka
[52:35] Speaker 2: did last year, in the playoffs instead of not regular
[52:39] Speaker 2: season 33-99, just his playoff numbers. He brings in about, what, 50-something,
[52:46] Speaker 2: so that'll put him in. LeBron had about 99 points
[52:49] Speaker 2: created in the game. Behind that is Jokic and Murray
[52:57] Speaker 2: because both have high-level assists. So you're talking about Jokic
[53:01] Speaker 2: averaging 10 and the point guard averaging about 6'7. I mean,
[53:06] Speaker 2: that's damn near... 40-something points, 50-something points in just assists alone, so... Ooh,
[53:14] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[53:14] Speaker 5: Yeah, but Brown had three last night, so I was
[53:17] Speaker 5: going to ask that, so how is that going to work, right?
[53:19] Speaker 1: Like, because... I'm just thinking about the assist factor, right?
[53:24] Speaker 1: With what you're saying.
[53:26] Speaker 3: I guess.
[53:27] Speaker 2: I just really got to be making shots, though. Between
[53:30] Speaker 2: the two of them, just like Jokic, right? Between the two,
[53:34] Speaker 2: anywhere from... 17 to 20, from your two top players,
[53:40] Speaker 2: and they're averaging 20, you're at 90 points created by
[53:44] Speaker 2: those two.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Right? So, that's hard. Yeah, they got to make shots. Yeah. Damon, Giannis.
[53:52] Speaker 4: I was going to say Damon, Giannis, maybe.
[53:54] Speaker 1: You know, it all depends. Tatum and Brown. I say
[53:56] Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown.
[53:58] Speaker 2: No, because one, they don't get to the free throw line.
[54:00] Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson and Cat. Jalen Brunson and Cat. Oh, no. Um....
[54:08] Speaker 2: It's the assists that changes the output of something, right?
[54:14] Speaker 2: That those assists is two to three points, right? So
[54:18] Speaker 2: if someone has 10 assists, right, you're talking 20 points.
[54:22] Speaker 1: To 30 points.
[54:23] Speaker 2: On the low end. You know, to 30 on the
[54:26] Speaker 2: high end. So you're talking about having 24 points. So
[54:29] Speaker 2: if he scores 24 and he has, you know, 10 assists,
[54:32] Speaker 2: that's 48 points created by that one individual. Those are
[54:37] Speaker 2: what's not factored into some of these things. So I
[54:41] Speaker 2: would say right now they're going to be probably the
[54:47] Speaker 2: most dangerous because 100%.
[54:53] Speaker 1: You actually have to double Luka.
[54:57] Speaker 2: Right?
[54:57] Speaker 1: So the fact that you are doubling Luka, full double
[55:01] Speaker 1: on Luka, you're leaving LeBron James open.
[55:05] Speaker 4: Which we saw last night.
[55:06] Speaker 1: Which we saw last night. Why would you double that?
[55:07] Speaker 1: Because there's Luka down there.
[55:08] Speaker 2: So the fact that he gets fully doubled means you're
[55:13] Speaker 2: really playing four and five. And the starting, the last five,
[55:17] Speaker 2: I can see there's going to be a problem with
[55:19] Speaker 2: some of the teams if they're not smart enough. When
[55:22] Speaker 2: they have Reeves, LeBron, Luka, Black and Mouth, right, and Rui,
[55:31] Speaker 2: you got five shooters and everybody's over 6'8.
[55:35] Speaker 1: That's not a small team. That's, they're not a small team.
[55:40] Speaker 1: During Fitness Smith's shooting? He's a shooter. Like him out.
[55:43] Speaker 2: Like him out.
[55:44] Speaker 1: He's a shooter. What about Stephon? No, he came in. Stephon.
[55:48] Speaker 1: He was like, what are you shooting from? I'm just... But...
[55:52] Speaker 1: If they game plan, they're going to leave him open.
[55:53] Speaker 4: We got to get another year.
[55:54] Speaker 5: But if they game plan the right way, he's going
[55:56] Speaker 5: to leave him open.
[55:57] Speaker 1: He's going to have to get hot. But they've been winning.
[55:59] Speaker 1: We're shooting 41%. They are 5-1. That's what I'm saying.
[56:02] Speaker 1: They are 5-1. Okay. So he's doing his thing. Hold on.
[56:05] Speaker 2: Now think about it like just a lineup.
[56:10] Speaker 3: You got to put your point guard on, what, Austin Reeves?
[56:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. We know how aggressive he gets, right? And he's
[56:17] Speaker 1: foul baiter.
[56:18] Speaker 2: Your shooting guard on Luka, he's going straight.
[56:20] Speaker 1: To the post. Right?
[56:22] Speaker 2: Now, if you're coming off of him, you're coming off
[56:24] Speaker 2: somebody who's going to hit a jumper. That was Denver
[56:28] Speaker 2: when they won the championship. When they had the shooters, right?
[56:32] Speaker 2: Then you got your dunker in.
[56:33] Speaker 1: Right? And, you know, you got to double Jokic. Right?
[56:41] Speaker 2: So you're sitting here in this game that they're playing
[56:45] Speaker 2: and watching Dallas last night.
[56:50] Speaker 3: If I'm J.
[56:51] Speaker 2: Kidd, I don't think I'm going to try to stop
[56:55] Speaker 2: Luka from doing what Luka's going to do to us.
[56:58] Speaker 1: Right?
[56:59] Speaker 3: It's like.
[57:00] Speaker 1: You're going to double-team him. Right? I'm not double-teaming him.
[57:02] Speaker 2: Like, I know I don't want him to score the
[57:04] Speaker 2: fucking 60 that he's trying to score. But it's not
[57:08] Speaker 2: like we're guarding Allen Iverson or someone who is not
[57:13] Speaker 2: going to... give his teammates the ball, right? So the
[57:17] Speaker 2: fact that he's like, well, I'll get 20 assists.
[57:19] Speaker 1: Fuck it.
[57:20] Speaker 2: That's 60 points, right? So I will say, all right, look,
[57:25] Speaker 2: good luck. But we're going to play straight up. We're
[57:27] Speaker 2: not going to double him. If he goes out and
[57:29] Speaker 2: hit 50, that's a better chance than allowing this motherfucker
[57:32] Speaker 2: to sit here, fake it, do all this shit wide open.
[57:35] Speaker 2: Come off LeBron, fucking James, wide open. I don't... I can't...
[57:38] Speaker 2: It's hard to fight human instincts out there.
[57:40] Speaker 1: I know. I'm like.
[57:41] Speaker 2: And I'm sitting like, you know what? Let's just get
[57:43] Speaker 2: this shit over with.
[57:44] Speaker 1: Luka, do you, right?
[57:46] Speaker 2: Because it's... The more you fuck around and don't let
[57:50] Speaker 2: the guy try to be in... He's not selfish enough
[57:55] Speaker 2: to not.
[57:55] Speaker 1: Just let the game come to him.
[57:58] Speaker 4: Listen, that Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry, too, though.
[58:01] Speaker 1: They 5-1. Kyrie, healthy AD, I think, is another. Man,
[58:04] Speaker 1: it's these three combos, man.
[58:07] Speaker 2: Like, back when we played, it's Kobe, Shaq, you know
[58:09] Speaker 2: what I mean?
[58:10] Speaker 3: You, J.K.
[58:11] Speaker 2: These three fucking combo.
[58:14] Speaker 1: Pieces is... It's the three combos. Like, Draymond is a
[58:17] Speaker 1: big factor to those. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's right.
[58:20] Speaker 5: Man, them B was, like, as far as duo, you
[58:22] Speaker 5: can't leave KD and Book out this motherfucking conversation.
[58:25] Speaker 1: We're talking about duos. I know they ain't winning.
[58:28] Speaker 4: I know they ain't doing what they're supposed to as
[58:29] Speaker 4: a team.
[58:30] Speaker 1: But two really duo? Yeah, them two really good.
[58:36] Speaker 2: You just sit here when someone's like, yo, is this
[58:39] Speaker 2: the best four?
[58:40] Speaker 1: The fact that you said best.
[58:42] Speaker 2: Four from the Lakers and you're sitting here like, damn.
[58:46] Speaker 1: There's fucking four people now?
[58:48] Speaker 2: Right? That's that important because of Boston. Your fourth option
[58:54] Speaker 2: is a gold medal winner.
[58:56] Speaker 1: Right? No offense. Kind of. Because they have.
[59:01] Speaker 2: Five players, not four. Porzingis is the third. Drew Holiday
[59:08] Speaker 2: and White is four and five.
[59:10] Speaker 1: One's a defensive player. One's an all-star. One's a defensive player.
[59:14] Speaker 1: One's a... It's fuck.
[59:16] Speaker 5: If they got Jalen Brown out there joint, Drew Holiday
[59:21] Speaker 5: and Derek White out.
[59:22] Speaker 1: There, It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a shit problem.
[59:26] Speaker 1: And we may see that problem come true. And that's
[59:30] Speaker 1: why it's important.
[59:30] Speaker 2: That's why when you're constructing these teams, it's your third
[59:34] Speaker 2: and fourth, huh?
[59:35] Speaker 1: We'll worry about that in June. We'll worry about that
[59:38] Speaker 1: in June. So we asked to chat, are Luke and
[59:40] Speaker 1: LeBron the NBA's best duo? 64% said yes. Let's keep
[59:44] Speaker 1: this thing moving. Talk some more basketball. He's going to
[59:46] Speaker 1: guard you. He's going to guard you. And be in
[59:47] Speaker 1: help all day. Crazy as hell. So we'd like to
[59:51] Speaker 1: give a shout-out. Because they can't put Jalen Brown in
[59:52] Speaker 1: the post for one.
[59:53] Speaker 4: First of all, who's going to guard?
[59:58] Speaker 1: Who's going to guard? You said Jalen Brown?
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's always on the weak side. But remember,
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: you've got to flip it around, right? You've got to
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: flip it around. And you've got two guards that's 6'4,
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: going against two guys who's 6'6.
[1:00:13] Speaker 4: Listen, he's going to have another finals MVP.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: You ain't going to let LeBron go.
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[1:01:57] Speaker 1: Let us put five minutes on the clock. So as
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: we know, NBA 65 game minimum for awards has changed
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: a lot. The list of notable players ineligible for awards
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: due to games missed includes Luka, John Morant, Victor Wamba Wamba, Kawhi,
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, and Jimmy Butler. But I want to go
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: around the couch quickly. You have five minutes. Who would
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: be your All-NBA first team if the season ended today?
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: First team. First-team All-NBA at the season ended today based
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: on players who were eligible. Tate. Okay, Tate.
[1:02:29] Speaker 5: Nikola, Shea, Giannis, and Jalen Bronson.
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: Hmm. Nikola, Shea, Tatum, Giannis. Jalen Bronson. Let's move on
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: to Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Wearing the AI jacket. Very stylish.
[1:02:50] Speaker 4: I'm going to go Giannis, SGA. Jokic, Tatum, Donovan Mitchell.
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: The Cavs' number one option. Okay. Your All-NBA first team.
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: Be the one. We've seen this shift. Be the one.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: I'm with you. Absolutely. Rewarding winning. I'm with you. Okay.
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: I'm going to say Joker, Jason Tatum for sure.
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: Shout out to Jason Tatum. He made everybody's list. I
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: go Giannis and Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell as well, okay. Last
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: but not least, Mr. Gilbert Arenas. First team, I'm going
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: to go Shea, Giannis, Jokic.
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: Core three. LeBron James. Gil, you're glazing. For sure. Take
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: a cookie. Take a cookie. Fuck. The other double grip,
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: not the Zion double grip that was referenced in the
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: show yesterday. The Zion double grip. You is ball chasing.
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: You don't think LeBron potentially worthy of making an NBA
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: first thing?
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: I got one more. All right. As far as best
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: five players, it's not positionless. Positionless, as we know. I'm
[1:04:29] Speaker 1: going to go... I'm going to go Donovan Mitchell. Okay,
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: shout out Donovan Mitchell. Gave some love from the Gills
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: Arena crew.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: Tatum champion. Me personally, I'm like, okay, well, you was
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: the champs last year. Y'all sitting at third.
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: Second. No Tatum on your list, Gil. No.
[1:04:53] Speaker 3: That's correct.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: They're sitting at second. You're the champs. Tatum leading the team,
[1:04:56] Speaker 1: points rebounds, assists, steals, three-pointers made.
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: Okay, cool, but we have a team that was in
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: fifth last year.
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: Ice ended.
[1:05:02] Speaker 2: We've seen a team that was in fifth last year,
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: and this man has them at one.
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: All year long.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: I mean, when we questioned him, the first five games,
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: 10 games, 15, 20, he's done kept it up.
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: So I got a reward.
[1:05:16] Speaker 4: He's answering the call.
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: Him for doing what he's been doing.
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: So Tatum get dropped. He get left out because... You
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: said mid-season. I'm just saying.
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: Is he going to finish first team Tatum?
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: Of course. Right now, but I get a chance. Good job.
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: Good save, Gil.
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: I get a chance. Bitch, I didn't challenge your motherfucking list.
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: I'm just challenging you. I didn't challenge your list. I
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: didn't say nothing about your motherfucking list. I appreciate your list.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: Milwaukee was in what? Third last year or fourth?
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:05:47] Speaker 1: Milwaukee.
[1:05:48] Speaker 3: Cool.
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: Fifth now. Now they in what place they in? Third, fourth.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: We were talking about walking a little out. I was
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: going to put LaMelo Ball up in that bitch. I
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: was going to ask. Don't say LaMelo. That's what I
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: was like. I mean, shit, it is LaMelo. But I'm like...
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: I was going to ask if you were going to
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: put Jello Ball's brother in the middle. Let me give
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: somebody I don't watch....
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: Some credit.
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: That's what I really like. You know what?
[1:06:08] Speaker 2: Mitchell been out there, motherfucker, doing his thing quietly.
[1:06:11] Speaker 4: Paying some ass up.
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: Let me give him some credit, because if I, if,
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: fuck all that, I want to say, Shay and LaMelo
[1:06:18] Speaker 2: Ball out there, bitch, are.
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: The one two.
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: Hey, my partner told me to tell you, tell Gil,
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: That clutch sports check hanging out of his pocket is
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: about to fall out.
[1:06:28] Speaker 3: Don't drop it.
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: Listen.
[1:06:32] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: Listen, if Luka was playing- Shout out to MG, man.
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: That's a good one. You wanted to say Luka. What
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: I'm saying? I wanted to say Luka.
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: I wanted to say Austin Reed.
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: But I'm like, just- Austin Reed's bet. Not far-fetched, Gil.
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: You know, he's 22. Oh, shit.
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: He's a year 22. So I'm only giving... That's what
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm giving him credit because he's 22 doing this.
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: I'm giving Donovan Mitchell holding his team number one the
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: whole time.
[1:06:55] Speaker 3: I know, like, why he get disrespected so much?
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: Okay, if I'm just go fuck all the records. Okay,
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: fuck all the records. No, that's your team, though.
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: The Mellow Ball and Shea at the 1-2. It's your team, though.
[1:07:04] Speaker 2: I'm not questioning your team. Tatum at the 3, Giannis
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: at the 4, and Jokic at the 5.
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: It's your team. So no SGX. No, SGA and LaMelo. Okay,
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: my bad. Can he still qualify? Who? LaMelo. Right on time.
[1:07:22] Speaker 1: So since he don't qualify, Donovan Mitchell. Yellow balls, bro.
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: Back to Donovan Mitchell. So I'll remove LeBron James. What's up,
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: Brian James? You can have your check back. Have your
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: check back. Shout out to Oral Watch for sponsoring the show.
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: All right, let's keep this thing moving. I like this, though.
[1:07:43] Speaker 3: I know, right?
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: It's lightweight. Light, durable, stylish. Work out with it. Luxurious.
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: That'll work out. So, Suns and Grizzlies... Y'all stick together.
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is, he over here talking, he
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: can't even wear the watch. He can't even wear the watch, bro.
[1:08:02] Speaker 2: Is your watch even on?
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: Yes. Snap, go like this. Put it on. Do like this.
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: Put it on blast.
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: I did it.
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: Do like this.
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: Let's give your shit snaps, huh?
[1:08:13] Speaker 1: It is snaps. Yeah. All right, well, let's keep this
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: thing moving. Good, good, good.
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: Hey, I hope, I hope.
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: Hey, tell him to leave it.
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: We gonna be calling EMS. We gonna be calling EMS
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: in this motherfucker. He leave that watch now. Losing circulation. Motherfucker,
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: hand gonna be blue.
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: Motherfucker just gonna be sitting there just, Nick, catch this. So,
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: Suns and Grizzlies are headed in opposite directions with Memphis
[1:08:36] Speaker 1: holding down the second spot in the West while Phoenix
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: is just trying to stay and play in contention. We're
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: currently on the outside looking in. Teams met up in
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: Memphis Tuesday for a thriller, which ended up being the
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: highest scoring game in the league this season. Let's take
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: a look at some of the highlights, if we may. So,
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: Suns had five players score 20 or more points in
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: the game. First time Phoenix has accomplished that feat in
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: more than 30 years. Devin Booker led the Suns in
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: scoring with 28 points, 12 for 25. from the field,
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: also had 12 assists in the game. KD had 26
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: eight boards and seven dimes. Bradley Beal made his third
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: straight start, had another solid game, 24 points, 11 assists,
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: and five rebounds. Bobo had a season-high 23 points on
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: an efficient eight of 11 shooting.
[1:09:15] Speaker 4: 23.
[1:09:16] Speaker 1: Grayson Allen came off the bench, added 21 points. going
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: six for nine from deep, but it was not enough.
[1:09:23] Speaker 1: John Moran was playing with a heavy heart after finding
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: out his grandmother had passed away before the game. John
[1:09:27] Speaker 1: had 29 points, eight assists, four rebounds, and two steals,
[1:09:30] Speaker 1: but was seven for 25 from the field. He did
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: go 14 for 14 from the line, though. Before fouling
[1:09:34] Speaker 1: out in the fourth quarter, Jaron Jackson Jr. put up
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: 28 points on 11 to 13 shooting. He also had
[1:09:39] Speaker 1: five rebounds and two blocks. Desmond Bain added 25 and
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: nine assists, and Ricky Jalen Wells came through with 19
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: to five.
[1:09:45] Speaker 5: Yo, go back, like, If nobody can stop Ja from
[1:09:49] Speaker 5: doing that, why you shoot 12 threes, man? He was
[1:09:54] Speaker 5: one for 12 from three yesterday, Ja Morant. Like, nobody
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: in this league can stop you from getting to the paint. Like,
[1:10:01] Speaker 5: why are you fourth? Like, I just don't understand that.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: He shot 12. He was seven for 25. He was
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: seven for 25. He shot 12 threes. You know what
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: I'm saying? I know, but.
[1:10:11] Speaker 2: Like, 12 threes is a lot for him.
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: So, like, what.
[1:10:16] Speaker 5: They going under the screen, maybe? I didn't watch that.
[1:10:18] Speaker 5: Maybe they was going under the screen and you felt disrespected?
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: Could be. Let him shoot. Yeah, let him. He shot
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: 12 of them. He was one for 12. Let him shoot.
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: All right, motherfucker. As we saw in the highlight. Shot
[1:10:31] Speaker 1: that motherfucker. Suns are up by four. 16 seconds left
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: in the game. Jobs scored five straight points, including a
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: 17-foot floater. Send it to OT. Suns were up four
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: again with a little over a minute to go in OT.
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: Grizzlies scored seven straight points to seal the win. 151
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: to 148. God bless offense. Teams combined for 299 points.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: Let's talk a little Grizzlies. Grizzlies three and four in
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: their last seven games, but at 30 and 20 this season,
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: tied with the Nuggets for second in the West. They
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: own the tiebreaker, so they are in the second spot.
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: Finished 13th in the West last season, but made three
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: straight trips to the playoffs prior to that, but have
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: not advanced past the second round in the Ja Morant era. So,
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: got to ask the couch. Are the Grizzlies for real
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: or for good?
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[1:11:13] Speaker 4: Hell yeah. We told y'all that before the season.
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: What?
[1:11:16] Speaker 4: That Memphis was going to be for real.
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: Rizzy's awesome for real. I want his revenge here. I
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: think he's going to be a little bit earlier. I
[1:11:21] Speaker 1: wasn't rolling. I wasn't rolling.
[1:11:24] Speaker 3: I feel like Ja got to be a little more aggressive. Yeah,
[1:11:26] Speaker 3: Ja only has 21. It's quiet, though.
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: It's quiet. Yeah, it's quiet, though. It's very quiet.
[1:11:32] Speaker 4: But they winning, though. That's why it's like, okay.
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: What's the most Ja ever averaged? I want to see.
[1:11:36] Speaker 1: Pulling it up right now. I think around like 25.
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: So it's like... So most– Josh averages 27. He averaged
[1:11:46] Speaker 1: in the 21-22 season, played 57 games that season.
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: And then we're talking about, you know, the Grizzlies, which,
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: you know, just like two years– was it two years
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: ago where they were second or third?
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: Second in the world. Second, they finished second. It's this–
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: they're weird, right?
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: It's like they're very– it's a very solid basketball team.
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: They defend. They get their buckets. That motherfucking Bane.
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I've ever disrespected the... Yeah, you know.
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: What I mean?
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: That man right there, God damn it, is solid as
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: it comes. He is a guaranteed 20 plus. He's like
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: CJ McCullough. He comes to work every month.
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: Stop it. He comes to work, right?
[1:12:40] Speaker 2: And I don't think, like, when we talk about job,
[1:12:43] Speaker 2: we don't never talk about that counterpartner he has that
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: brings in a solid 20.
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: Well, they got a three-headed monster with Jared Jackson. Yeah. Well,
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: it's all right, too, though.
[1:12:53] Speaker 4: Like, leaving hurts, though.
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: They ain't got paid for a reason. And we questioned.
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He got paid for a reason. Yeah,
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: they paid him for a reason. They see him every day.
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: One thing for sure, they see him every day.
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: He just don't got the look.
[1:13:07] Speaker 1: His arms look short.
[1:13:09] Speaker 2: Don't want to take advantage of him.
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: That motherfucker. And he put it on the deck, too.
[1:13:15] Speaker 5: If you think he just finished shoot three, he'll put
[1:13:17] Speaker 5: that bitch on the deck and go by you and
[1:13:18] Speaker 5: make plays at the rim.
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: He showed that when Jock went out. He held the
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: team up. That combo, man, is being....
[1:13:26] Speaker 2: Really, you know, it's like Cleveland's combo. We're not paying
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: attention to these two, man. We always talk about Ja,
[1:13:33] Speaker 2: but we never talk about his counterpart.
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: He's good. Let's talk about Ja and Bane. So Bane
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: under contract through 2029. Ja under contract through 2028. Jaron
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: Jackson Jr. under contract through 2026. So talk about Wimby
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: going down. Jaron Jackson Jr. now one of the frontrunners
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: to win Defensive Player of the Year. If he wins
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, they want to make him
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: eligible for a Supermax, I think 345. million dollar range.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: So they had to offer him that? No, that's what
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: the most he can get. Grizzlies fans, most of them
[1:14:01] Speaker 1: are of the opinion that he's going to have to
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: come down off that bread.
[1:14:04] Speaker 2: They can't afford it. I mean, it's Memphis Grizzlies. And
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: then it becomes an untradeable piece.
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And this is what happens when.
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: You have a 65 game rule. People are going to
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: get paid super max money that is not your super
[1:14:24] Speaker 2: max talent.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: They can get max money. It ain't max. But that other,
[1:14:33] Speaker 1: that's another hundred. Right? That super is a hundred. Let's
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: say Tatum and Brown go down, right? And then Porzingis.
[1:14:44] Speaker 3: Carries the load.
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: Now he got to be paid three, six, three something.
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: Back in the day, people would have paid him. When
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: he first came to New York. You won't do that now.
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: I know.
[1:14:55] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: Not now. Not now. Force of the hand.
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:14:58] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: They're going to do exactly what I do. Hey, King,
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: you got to vote. Yeah, I got 400,000, man. You
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: go the other way with it, man. Anthony Davis or somebody.
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: You want defensive player of the year level production, but
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: just not the awards. to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
[1:15:15] Speaker 2: I want you to go keep doing what you're doing.
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: Give me two, three and one every night.
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: Do you. I'm just going to be behind the scenes going.
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: At the end of the year. But you know, I'm
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: going to go in that way.
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: They're probably going to be like, you're a hell of
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: a defender, but you know, you foul a lot.
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: You know, that's a little late.
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: We're going to have to take some off the top
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: because you just.
[1:15:32] Speaker 1: You know, you foul a lot. I already got a
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: discount with Ja, though, obviously. I want another discount. Okay.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a discount on Ja.
[1:15:38] Speaker 4: Don't do what you do, but at the end of
[1:15:40] Speaker 4: the year, you ain't getting that award.
[1:15:41] Speaker 5: Yo, yeah, because they got to get that team.
[1:15:44] Speaker 1: I hate to say it, the city of Memphis. Yeah,
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: they probably go to Nashville. Listen, you can keep it
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: in the state. I'm not saying you can move it.
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: You ain't got to move it out the state. But
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: we respect Memphis. Get on the highway, take it a
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: few hours and change. Yeah, man. Nashville, and I think
[1:15:58] Speaker 1: you'll be all right. You can't keep selling Beale Street.
[1:16:01] Speaker 1: What is that shit? And the Western. An interesting street,
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: I will say. You know, we had fun.
[1:16:07] Speaker 4: That peacock with them ducks. They still stay there.
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: You got to go to Nashville. Oh, that's the Peabody. Peabody.
[1:16:15] Speaker 5: Fuck, I was staying at the Peabody when I got
[1:16:16] Speaker 5: hurt in college.
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: Fuck, yeah. I got to stay and watch them ducks.
[1:16:20] Speaker 5: When my college career ended, we was staying at the Peabody.
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: Very nice hotel. Very nice hotel. They got a team, though. Ducks.
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: Everybody chill out.
[1:16:27] Speaker 3: Watch the ducks.
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: Memphis is going to be UMG right now. They're going
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: to be behind the scenes like a motherfucker. trying to
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: get people not to vote. Like, I don't want to
[1:16:39] Speaker 2: pay him. Like, what is he going to get if
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: he doesn't win the award? I think it would be
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: under that $ 345. I'm not sure what that exact number is.
[1:16:46] Speaker 1: Isn't it like $ 150? No, it would be $ 250. Like $ 225, right?
[1:16:49] Speaker 2: He'd get more than that. I think just a regular match, $ 225.
[1:16:54] Speaker 1: So he'll get whatever. They'll try to match whatever. What
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: is it if he don't win it? Yeah, that shit is, bro.
[1:17:01] Speaker 1: But can't they trade him? Can't they trade him? I
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: don't want to trade him. I just don't want to
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: keep him. You want to keep him for cheaper. The
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: only thing, if.
[1:17:11] Speaker 5: You trade him, it'll be like my fucking situation, where
[1:17:16] Speaker 5: the ownership don't want to trade him. There ain't no
[1:17:18] Speaker 5: players out there that you can really get back for him.
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: They're going to have to trade him for picks.
[1:17:21] Speaker 1: So it's about a $ 200 million difference. So without the
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, his max extension would be
[1:17:26] Speaker 1: worth $ 147 million. Oh, damn. $ 145 for five if he
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: gets the super max.
[1:17:35] Speaker 2: $ 147.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Now, now, now. Let's try this again. Absolutely. How much
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: you willing to pay? Absolutely.
[1:17:43] Speaker 2: If you're Memphis, how much you willing to pay for
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: these people not to vote?
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: $ 200 million. God damn.
[1:17:49] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: Now, think about it.
[1:17:51] Speaker 2: $ 200.
[1:17:55] Speaker 1: Million.
[1:17:56] Speaker 2: What can I get with an extra $ 200 million.
[1:17:58] Speaker 1: For my team?
[1:17:59] Speaker 4: Right, right, right.
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: So I'm saying... Hey, buddy. I will pay $ 50, $ 25 million... $ 45, $ 45.
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: to rig this against him. I'm sorry, sir.
[1:18:12] Speaker 2: Just telling you as something that happens without happening.
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: I want you... Of course, buddy. But I don't... 325? Nah, man,
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: I want you for the 140. We can't afford it. Shit, hey, hey, hey.
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: I'll give you 200. I'll give you 200.
[1:18:29] Speaker 2: I'll give you another 60 under the table, goddammit.
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: Can't afford it, bro.
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: If not, this motherfucker about to have a severe back
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: sprain that he don't know and can't feel, but my
[1:18:39] Speaker 2: doctors done seen it.
[1:18:40] Speaker 4: So if he do get it, so if he do
[1:18:41] Speaker 4: get the award... We only need you.
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: To play about 64 games this year.
[1:18:44] Speaker 4: Do they move jobs?
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: He don't miss games like that. No.
[1:18:49] Speaker 4: I'm just saying because, well, okay, where does your team go?
[1:18:52] Speaker 1: In a tough spot.
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: You move, listen, you sign, how about this, you sign
[1:18:57] Speaker 2: him at 340, then move the guy who puts everybody
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: in his seats, file for bankruptcy.
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: You're going to be selling your team within the next
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: couple of years.
[1:19:04] Speaker 4: I mean, but can you afford, I mean, he's about
[1:19:05] Speaker 4: to be up again.
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: If you can afford it, you can only afford it
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: because 12's there.
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: Call 12. Call 12.
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: There's going to be Superman shit everywhere.
[1:19:15] Speaker 3: Didn't Sack just trade Fox? You can get something back
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: for JJ, I think.
[1:19:21] Speaker 2: Not if he makes 340. Nobody's going to want him
[1:19:24] Speaker 2: at three.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: You trade him before that, though.
[1:19:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, like trade him like this year.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: That's the only way.
[1:19:29] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: That's the only way.
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: But the problem is you ain't going to get back
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: an AD for him. but you'll get so he up
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: next year so they would have to trade in this
[1:19:39] Speaker 2: summer but you still got 12 right they.
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: Have to trade in this summer right now so 12
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: gonna fill those seats he's under contract through next summer
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: you could probably get God damn what's the deadline next
[1:19:46] Speaker 1: year next summer or the next we're gonna go there.
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: So if he hits it this year.
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: If he gets Defensive Player of the Year this year,
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: he's eligible for a Super Bowl.
[1:19:55] Speaker 4: So no matter what he does next year, he's not
[1:19:57] Speaker 4: sending Cooper Flag there.
[1:19:59] Speaker 3: Cooper Flag can't be with Ja?
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: No way.
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: Hey, can Cooper Flag be with Ja Morant?
[1:20:05] Speaker 1: You better than the big y'all got. We don't got
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: the breath for all that. I mean, Jaren.
[1:20:11] Speaker 5: Jackson better than many big y'all guys. We don't got
[1:20:13] Speaker 5: that $ 345. We got to pay Lucas.
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: You can't pay him $ 340. Bron will have to take
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: a pay cut. For what? Think about it. Yeah, I'm
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: about to say it.
[1:20:18] Speaker 4: Bron will have to take a pay cut. Yeah, then
[1:20:19] Speaker 4: you just say Bron will take a pay cut.
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: Y'all got to get somebody to match up with Lucas.
[1:20:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: Bron on his way out. I don't want $ 340. $ 140
[1:20:24] Speaker 1: at $ 140.
[1:20:28] Speaker 5: This motherfucker's the best option in the world.
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: Y'all can afford it? For $ 340, 000? Goddamn. Y'all got two.
[1:20:34] Speaker 5: Boston got two max. So y'all in the market. Listen,
[1:20:38] Speaker 5: it's the market to pay two guys.
[1:20:40] Speaker 3: That.
[1:20:40] Speaker 2: Nah, he gonna have to take him a Brunson deal, man.
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: That's with the same team. He ain't giving y'all no discount.
[1:20:47] Speaker 1: Y'all the Los Angeles Lakers, baby.
[1:20:50] Speaker 2: It's cool to be the Lakers when y'all listen.
[1:20:53] Speaker 1: Y'all don't want to pay to get here, everybody.
[1:20:57] Speaker 3: It's the Los Angeles Lakers, baby.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: You could come out that paycheck. I'm like 340 for
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: Jim and Jack.
[1:21:07] Speaker 2: Hey, Nico.
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: You know where he's going. Can I get that Anthony
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: Davis back? Can we get AD back? Look, look, look.
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: This is going to be Rob Palenka. Listen, we can
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: fire the G we have over here now. I can
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: hire you.
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: Just trade us back AD for Rui, right?
[1:21:27] Speaker 1: Open up your Japanese market. You can't open up the
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: Japanese market.
[1:21:31] Speaker 2: You can hire anybody but Rui.
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: And you have a job here just in case they
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: fire you. Yeah, I just go up to upper management. Yes.
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: For 340, I want Anthony Davis back.
[1:21:43] Speaker 3: Who are the big men out there?
[1:21:45] Speaker 1: For 340, give me Anthony Davis, brother.
[1:21:48] Speaker 3: Is he top ten as a big?
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: Jerry Jackson Jr.? Yeah, yeah. But it's the name. Yes.
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: But that's the problem. It's production. It's production. It's the name.
[1:21:59] Speaker 1: Like I said, the only thing he's like, hey. That's
[1:22:01] Speaker 1: because it's Memphis. If he was in L.A., block and
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: shit like that.
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: If I'm paying him $ 340, 000, I'm getting $ 340, 000.
[1:22:07] Speaker 1: He got to play. All 82 games.
[1:22:10] Speaker 3: He damn near do though.
[1:22:13] Speaker 1: He play all game.
[1:22:14] Speaker 4: He ain't going off the top two in fouls since
[1:22:16] Speaker 4: he's been in the league.
[1:22:17] Speaker 1: But he play all game. He's playing, but he's available.
[1:22:20] Speaker 1: He's going to play in all of them, but....
[1:22:24] Speaker 3: He ain't gonna be there he did foul out in
[1:22:27] Speaker 3: the game he did foul out today.
[1:22:29] Speaker 2: With Zion right like Zion can play 30 games and
[1:22:34] Speaker 2: then his jersey sales can make up the other games
[1:22:37] Speaker 2: he playing JJJ he gotta play all 82 ain't nobody.
[1:22:41] Speaker 1: Buying the goddamn jersey.
[1:22:43] Speaker 3: Is that a good trade for Zion who if you Memphis.
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: Memphis, yeah.
[1:22:50] Speaker 5: Jaren Jackson fucking around making fun of him when he's
[1:22:52] Speaker 5: all NBA team.
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: It's not like they want, they don't want to trade him.
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: They just can't afford it.
[1:22:58] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't want to trade him.
[1:23:01] Speaker 3: But it's hard to stop him from making it.
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: I trade a motherfucker, and then he don't make it.
[1:23:06] Speaker 1: Now I'm mad.
[1:23:07] Speaker 3: God damn.
[1:23:07] Speaker 1: So back to the Grizzlies. They're going to do it
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: to him again. We asked the chat. I will be offering.
[1:23:13] Speaker 1: Do you think he's third team all NBA?
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson Jr. Or Mr.
[1:23:16] Speaker 4: Bonas.
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: He gonna make it. So either way it go, either
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: way it go, listen. Either way it go. Hey, bring
[1:23:25] Speaker 1: me my money.
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: He can make that, he can make that in the
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: All-Star game as long as he.
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: Don't win that award.
[1:23:30] Speaker 5: But don't, but how much is it? If he makes
[1:23:32] Speaker 5: the All-NBA, I think. All-NBA, it unlocks it too.
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:23:36] Speaker 1: One of them three teams and the award. Oh, yeah. Oh,
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: y'all You better get those broken. God damn it right now. Hey, yo, God.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just be honest Sometimes you just gotta throw
[1:23:52] Speaker 2: your pride away. I'll be at his motherfucking to AJ JJ. Hey, listen,
[1:23:56] Speaker 2: brother I'm white.
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: I'm sorry You better throw some Trimadol in his grave.
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: I'm white.
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: I'm white. What am I about to say? He's going
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: to be grand rising king and you got a queen.
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: Grand rising your queen and your little.
[1:24:11] Speaker 3: Kings and princesses and prince.
[1:24:12] Speaker 1: Hey, I got 200.
[1:24:13] Speaker 3: I know I'm white, but.
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: I'm going to be grand rising all.
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: Through that motherfucker until he's signed.
[1:24:21] Speaker 2: I am not letting him get to the end of
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: this motherfucking season.
[1:24:25] Speaker 1: I am offering him right now. Right today. Fuck the
[1:24:29] Speaker 1: rest of this season.
[1:24:31] Speaker 3: Did they have to sign him in the summer?
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: This summer?
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: I can do it right now. What I'm saying is
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: I don't want the rest of this season.
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: Fuck the rest of this season.
[1:24:41] Speaker 2: Because it's a three option window.
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: He's not going to sign. All-star can fuck me.
[1:24:47] Speaker 4: All-Indian can fuck me.
[1:24:49] Speaker 1: Defensive player of the year. I don't even know who's third.
[1:24:51] Speaker 3: He already know he up.
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, he already know he up.
[1:24:54] Speaker 2: I don't know who's third, right? Which means there was
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: only a clear one-two.
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: You know what I'm feeling? That means third is probably
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: far as fuck. So I know we're where we are.
[1:25:04] Speaker 2: He's going to make this team.
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: I got to offer him this money now. But you
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: know he's coming.
[1:25:09] Speaker 4: I got a defensive player coming.
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: All NBA, one of the two.
[1:25:15] Speaker 3: He getting one of them.
[1:25:16] Speaker 1: If they finish second in the West, with Ja missing
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: the time that he's missed and him, oh, you can
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: count it, Ja. Ja not eligible. Run it. You can
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: count it.
[1:25:27] Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something that nobody is going
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: to ever say. Ja. Bane, I need you to do
[1:25:41] Speaker 2: me a solid. I think y'all need to come up
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: with a little injury, right? I think the rest of
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: this season need to be tanked. I do not want
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: to win for him to get any awards.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: You can't fall off that far. I got to fall.
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: I have to fall. But they ain't got no chance.
[1:26:01] Speaker 4: I mean, do they have a chance of winning it?
[1:26:04] Speaker 3: I don't think you hear what I'm saying.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
[1:26:06] Speaker 1: It can happen.
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: There's $ 200 million for snakes. The rest of this season
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: don't even matter no more.
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: It don't even matter at this point. If I could
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: say $ 200 million. It don't even matter. Dude, you need
[1:26:23] Speaker 1: that playoff money. No, that playoff money ain't big enough.
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: You see our building?
[1:26:28] Speaker 3: You see our building.
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: You see Bill Street.
[1:26:31] Speaker 2: If I sign up for 340, God damn it, I
[1:26:33] Speaker 2: got to win a championship every.
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: Year and get so much back.
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: You damn near need to.
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:26:39] Speaker 1: They're not going to. So, God damn it.
[1:26:41] Speaker 2: Hey, boys. I got a couple of Lambos outside waiting
[1:26:43] Speaker 2: for you two motherfuckers.
[1:26:44] Speaker 1: Enjoy. God damn it. A Lambo, huh?
[1:26:47] Speaker 2: I got Lambert. Whatever the fuck you two need, I
[1:26:52] Speaker 2: don't want.
[1:26:52] Speaker 4: To finish the rest of the season off. Vacation then.
[1:26:55] Speaker 4: Send me on vacation.
[1:26:56] Speaker 1: I got to see you. All expense trip, you and
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: your family.
[1:26:59] Speaker 5: And if I'm Jay and Jack and I'm going to
[1:27:01] Speaker 5: them same two, like, hey, I need y'all to just
[1:27:03] Speaker 5: keep ole-ing to the basket.
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: So I can get this 345. Keep sending them down here.
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: I got you. Right?
[1:27:11] Speaker 2: Hey, as you said, Jay and Jack, look, listen, I
[1:27:13] Speaker 2: know these motherfuckers are going to try.
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: Listen, I give you $ 25 million extra.
[1:27:20] Speaker 1: You motherfuckers play, get beat, let me.
[1:27:22] Speaker 3: Do my thing.
[1:27:23] Speaker 1: Let me do my thing.
[1:27:26] Speaker 2: These are waters where the game itself does not actually matter.
[1:27:33] Speaker 3: Somebody's going to plant something.
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: This is all business.
[1:27:37] Speaker 2: Like Marcus Campbell told me, I got to get these rebounds, bro,
[1:27:40] Speaker 2: to get my A's.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: Stay the fuck out the way, dawg. He got threatening guards. Hey, man,
[1:27:46] Speaker 1: you coming to get rebound, Marcus. Campbell's threatening you. Hey, listen.
[1:27:50] Speaker 2: Who, without anybody looking, if he's up for, he's number
[1:27:57] Speaker 2: one for defense, who's behind him?
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: Mobley.
[1:28:00] Speaker 3: It was Mobley.
[1:28:02] Speaker 4: He said, come on, man.
[1:28:03] Speaker 1: Now, now, now watch this. Wamba Wamba, as he's known.
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: In the next few weeks....
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: Who do you think we're going to hear about as
[1:28:12] Speaker 2: playing amazing defense?
[1:28:13] Speaker 3: Evan Mobley. Evan Mobley.
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: No, somebody just did. No, no, no.
[1:28:15] Speaker 5: They played each other. So there was a post that
[1:28:18] Speaker 5: I just saw where the head-to-head matchup and he was
[1:28:21] Speaker 5: guarding him. So they said Evan Mobley outplayed Jaron Jackson
[1:28:26] Speaker 5: in the game.
[1:28:28] Speaker 1: He had more blocks. They just played each other Sunday.
[1:28:32] Speaker 2: Somebody already put the narrative out there, so you are
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: absolutely correct.
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, that Mobley.
[1:28:36] Speaker 4: Kid down in Cleveland is about to switch.
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: That in Cleveland, go ahead, perk. You remember that thing
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: you did with Jokic and Embiid? Yeah, I need you
[1:28:47] Speaker 1: to go ahead and pull that for me again. Watch,
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: they're going to start using Mobley. They're going to push
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: him to the point where... I mean, they are number one.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: They are the number one team. I mean, they are
[1:28:55] Speaker 1: number two, so... Dog, watch.
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: Y'all, man, listen, man, I don't know what world we in.
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: Hey, read that. What'd it say? Could save.
[1:29:08] Speaker 2: Hey, look what it says, nigga. Look at the title
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: of it. The title of it is fucking reckless. The
[1:29:17] Speaker 2: title of this. is the, and it's, they need to
[1:29:21] Speaker 2: add another motherfucker.
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: Look at the, let's get it in focus. Up, up, up, up, up, up,
[1:29:28] Speaker 1: right there.
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: Oh.
[1:29:32] Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
[1:29:35] Speaker 2: The fact that is a narrative that he could save
[1:29:39] Speaker 2: it means they're going to push like the owners, owners are,
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: The owners aren't collected.
[1:29:48] Speaker 1: But what if he make the third team, though?
[1:29:50] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's the same one from defense,
[1:29:53] Speaker 3: all defensive.
[1:29:53] Speaker 1: Player of the year. But what if he make a
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: third team? I know. It's hard to stop. Jaron Jackson Jr.
[1:30:00] Speaker 1: shot one for six with guarder by Mobley. Blocking one shot,
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: grabbing three. Mobley shot two for four with guarder by
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson Jr. Blocking three shots, grabbing 13 rebounds. The
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: very next day, Edmund Mobley moved ahead of Jaron Jackson
[1:30:13] Speaker 1: in defensive play right in your eye.
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: There you go. And the offensive part don't even matter,
[1:30:18] Speaker 2: but they're using offensive.
[1:30:19] Speaker 3: Like, you stopped him. The fuck does that got.
[1:30:21] Speaker 1: To do with me playing defense?
[1:30:23] Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Rudy Goldberg will be coming out two
[1:30:26] Speaker 2: days ago.
[1:30:26] Speaker 4: They're about to save money. This was two days ago.
[1:30:28] Speaker 4: This is crazy.
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: But he can make a third team, though.
[1:30:33] Speaker 2: You're not thinking about there's the NBA, then after the
[1:30:38] Speaker 2: NBA is.
[1:30:39] Speaker 1: the owners, as a collective group. I know he's talking, man.
[1:30:43] Speaker 1: I'm talking.
[1:30:43] Speaker 2: Hey, man, I need y'all to do me some solace.
[1:30:46] Speaker 2: That's what happens behind the scenes, man.
[1:30:48] Speaker 1: I love that. We know that.
[1:30:49] Speaker 3: Because they ain't got the money, but what would be
[1:30:52] Speaker 3: the other way to stop them?
[1:30:53] Speaker 1: Like, you stop them that way. Voters don't vote for them.
[1:30:57] Speaker 1: So you don't vote for them? Our record goal, our record,
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: we just fall the fuck off.
[1:31:02] Speaker 3: But that ain't going to happen, so. Yeah, that's what
[1:31:04] Speaker 3: I'm saying. What if they stay in second or top three?
[1:31:07] Speaker 3: They got a really good coach.
[1:31:08] Speaker 1: They stay in three. One, two, three. Does he make it?
[1:31:12] Speaker 1: He still make it. What about the Cavs?
[1:31:14] Speaker 4: But what if the Cavs stay number one?
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: Even the coach.
[1:31:18] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[1:31:18] Speaker 1: Even the coach.
[1:31:19] Speaker 3: Hey, man, you want your job, right? That's like Mobley staying.
[1:31:23] Speaker 3: But that's like Mitchell or Garland not playing all year.
[1:31:26] Speaker 1: Did you and Jake make the All-Star game?
[1:31:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:31:28] Speaker 1: Yes. I picked him on my team. He did, yeah.
[1:31:31] Speaker 1: That's what I just said. So speaking of the Grizzlies,
[1:31:33] Speaker 1: we asked the chat if the Grizzlies are for real
[1:31:36] Speaker 1: or Fugazi. 57% say Fugazi. Let's keep this thing moving.
[1:31:41] Speaker 1: You know we got a no touching policy here in
[1:31:43] Speaker 1: the arena. Thank you. There you go. Them Phoenix Suns.
[1:31:52] Speaker 1: I'm now officially disappointed. We were actually going to... That's
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[1:34:03] Speaker 2: Huh?
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[1:34:09] Speaker 3: That was that when you gave me a hug.
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[1:34:13] Speaker 2: That was not my cell phone.
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: Man, oh, my God. I knew that was that. That
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: was not the cell phone.
[1:34:19] Speaker 4: I can tell you that for sure.
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: Oh, man, that's crazy. You thought that was a 16 match?
[1:34:24] Speaker 2: No.
[1:34:24] Speaker 3: That was a 16.
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: That was real smart. My dog.
[1:34:29] Speaker 3: My dog. Hold it down.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: Everybody in the chat who tried to press me yesterday
[1:34:33] Speaker 1: for the Zion double grip. Not the Zion double grip.
[1:34:37] Speaker 1: With the real smart, you got a double grip. Way
[1:34:39] Speaker 1: more out of pocket.
[1:34:40] Speaker 2: This ain't no single grip action right here.
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: That boy gives you the power.
[1:34:44] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:34:44] Speaker 1: Well.
[1:34:45] Speaker 2: Yo.
[1:34:47] Speaker 1: Speaking of bricked up, the Suns have lost six of
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: their last seven games and are two and nine in
[1:34:52] Speaker 1: Black History Month. Currently 11th in the West, two and
[1:34:54] Speaker 1: a half games behind the Kings for the final playing spot.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: Phoenix has the highest payroll in the league at this
[1:35:00] Speaker 1: very moment. You talked about it, but how disappointing have
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: the Suns been this season and can they still salvage
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: their season?
[1:35:09] Speaker 3: What I'm disappointed in is this.
[1:35:13] Speaker 2: You have, I mean, finally you're playing them and you're
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: starting him now, which you might get fired just for that.
[1:35:21] Speaker 2: A guy that you haven't played no minutes all season,
[1:35:26] Speaker 2: you decide to try him out, he balls, then you've
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: been starting him, and he's been killing. That right there
[1:35:33] Speaker 2: lets you, what the fuck were you paying attention to
[1:35:35] Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, right? So the fact that
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: you have on your roster Kevin Durant, who is all-purpose player.
[1:35:48] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:35:50] Speaker 2: You have a Beal, scorer, passer, defender. You have a Booker,
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: elite fucking scorer, can shoot. You have three marksmen on
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: your team. Now you have Bobo, who is a all-purpose player.
[1:36:07] Speaker 3: He can play whatever.
[1:36:09] Speaker 2: You got four players on your.
[1:36:12] Speaker 1: Team that can....
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: That can.
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: make the.
[1:36:16] Speaker 2: Defense play to the half court, and you have Grayson
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: Allen that is a spot-up shooter, and you're having trouble here?
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: You can't be doubled. You can't be doubled.
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: Like, no one can guard this team. So what offense
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: are you using to make it easy on the defense?
[1:36:45] Speaker 2: This is going to be... Sons, I won't trade anybody.
[1:36:51] Speaker 2: Do not trade your roster.
[1:36:54] Speaker 1: There is talk about.
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: Do not trade your fucking roster. You might want to
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: do what Cleveland did and what Detroit did. There might
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: be just a repurpose in the person who's.
[1:37:05] Speaker 1: Making these plays.
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: And you might see a difference in the outcome.
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: The problem right now is... what offense this group is running.
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: You're running an isolation offense with a group who needs
[1:37:25] Speaker 2: to be put in motion. Drive, kick, drive, slash, backdoor, lob, high, low.
[1:37:31] Speaker 2: You have a team that has five fucking marksmen on
[1:37:36] Speaker 2: your team. And you have isolation players, three of them.
[1:37:42] Speaker 2: Then you have a fucking bobo now. We don't know
[1:37:45] Speaker 2: what the fuck that is. Do you put all that
[1:37:47] Speaker 2: on the court?
[1:37:47] Speaker 1: I put it all on the court. On the coach?
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: Do you put all that?
[1:37:50] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: What type of coach would you bring in? I don't know, man.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[1:37:56] Speaker 1: Um... Somebody... This is a field.
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: I give one of these New York minds a chance.
[1:38:01] Speaker 1: Yes. This is a.
[1:38:02] Speaker 3: This is a.
[1:38:03] Speaker 2: You know what's so funny? This is a Jason kid lineup.
[1:38:07] Speaker 1: This is a... Man.
[1:38:10] Speaker 2: This is a Chauncey Billup type team. This is one
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: of those guys that.
[1:38:19] Speaker 1: This is Missoula.
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: This is fucking... This is a player. This is a
[1:38:24] Speaker 2: player coach. This is a player coach. It has to
[1:38:28] Speaker 2: be a smart mind coach. that can put an offense in,
[1:38:32] Speaker 2: like a Steve Kerr, that can put an offense in.
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: That's basically a fuck you. You have a team that...
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: The whole damn team can score fucking 30 every night.
[1:38:42] Speaker 5: Yeah, because look how that Cleveland playing now under Kenny Atkinson, right?
[1:38:45] Speaker 5: That ball, they look just like motherfucking Golden State. That
[1:38:48] Speaker 5: motherfucking ball moving, it's popping. They defending. You don't know
[1:38:53] Speaker 5: who to... And they got two bigs that Golden State
[1:38:56] Speaker 5: didn't have. But they got people that could do that,
[1:38:58] Speaker 5: that could create better. Put a different guy in that
[1:39:01] Speaker 5: position to where.
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
[1:39:04] Speaker 5: I don't... He has championship experience as a coach, but
[1:39:09] Speaker 5: it's a different style of team, right?
[1:39:10] Speaker 3: I don't think they're tough enough.
[1:39:15] Speaker 4: I mean, on paper, their team is crazy.
[1:39:22] Speaker 1: Are they the most.
[1:39:27] Speaker 1: See? We have connections here on this show, ladies and gentlemen. Because,
[1:39:30] Speaker 1: you know, he got... Yes. Man....
[1:39:36] Speaker 5: Out the blue one day, he just said, shall I
[1:39:38] Speaker 5: watch the show? And spot on, right? Spot the fuck on.
[1:39:46] Speaker 5: We're not gonna say who, but... Yeah, no, we don't reveal.
[1:39:48] Speaker 5: We're not one of them people, I'm not, because this
[1:39:50] Speaker 5: is inside information that we... When we say we have
[1:39:53] Speaker 5: information on stuff, we don't be like BS. This is
[1:39:56] Speaker 5: people in position to make decisions with teams and.
[1:40:01] Speaker 2: And I'm not treating nobody on that team.
[1:40:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's... This is Boston.
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: I got five.
[1:40:10] Speaker 2: Three-point shooters with three players that is actually unguardable.
[1:40:15] Speaker 4: They do got a team, though.
[1:40:16] Speaker 1: Huh? They do got a team. They just need a different...
[1:40:19] Speaker 1: They need to run different offense. I'm rolling. I'm rolling.
[1:40:22] Speaker 3: They need an offense.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: I'm rolling. I like that. A team is good. Highest
[1:40:26] Speaker 1: payroll in the league, though, right now. I understand. There's
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: been talks about potentially KD. That team is never going
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: to win. KD moving this summer. There was talks about
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: KD moving at the trade deadline. Reports he was going
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: to go to the Warriors. Get rid of everybody while
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: you can.
[1:40:39] Speaker 4: You mean by the summer?
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, because if this shit keep happening... But before the
[1:40:43] Speaker 1: season started, and I'll bring this up again, we said
[1:40:45] Speaker 1: we wouldn't be surprised if the Suns were one of
[1:40:47] Speaker 1: the top teams in the league or if the Suns
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: were somewhere down. I don't want to say 11th, but...
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: Why are we not surprised by that?
[1:40:53] Speaker 2: Because with Bobo, you just unlocked a creature.
[1:40:56] Speaker 1: Oh, man.
[1:40:58] Speaker 3: But what about the injuries they had, too? Our whole
[1:41:02] Speaker 3: future relies on Bobo.
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: A lot of people's futures rely on Bobo.
[1:41:05] Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: What the fuck is we talking about? Some are hoping
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: the prophecy gets fulfilled. Yeah, KD and Book, but my
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: whole future relies on Bobo.
[1:41:13] Speaker 2: That was no different than playing you and Kobe. Y'all
[1:41:16] Speaker 2: both were wanting to do the same thing, right?
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: Sit there.
[1:41:20] Speaker 2: Isolate, play isolation basketball. That's a clash. That's what they're having.
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: They're clashing because they want to play isolation basketball. So
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: why I'm sitting here playing isolation basketball, what is the
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: other ones doing just sitting there? There needs to be
[1:41:34] Speaker 2: an offense when this is playing iso.
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: They're moving.
[1:41:38] Speaker 2: They're backdooring.
[1:41:39] Speaker 1: They're cutting. They're getting easy plays. So they're just moving
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: for no reason. It ain't like the motherfucker going to pass.
[1:41:44] Speaker 4: How's their defense move?
[1:41:45] Speaker 1: They don't play no defense. They don't play no defense.
[1:41:48] Speaker 3: Bobo's not playing defense.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: Now let's go back to the Lakers, right? When they
[1:41:53] Speaker 1: go back to the Lakers. When Luka's moving, what.
[1:41:56] Speaker 4: Was Rui doing?
[1:41:57] Speaker 1: What was Vando doing?
[1:42:04] Speaker 2: Right? He's jumping right under the basket, right under the basket.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: They're not doing that.
[1:42:09] Speaker 3: Who's on that team going to beat Luka, though? Nobody
[1:42:11] Speaker 3: on that team does what Luka does. Yeah, do they
[1:42:12] Speaker 3: have anybody on the team? They don't need anybody to
[1:42:14] Speaker 3: beat Luka. They need a Draymond Green.
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: I said that, but... They need somebody. They need fucking
[1:42:21] Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. I said that, yeah. They need to put
[1:42:24] Speaker 1: Ben Simmons at the elbow.
[1:42:25] Speaker 5: They need to let them move around, scream for one another, backdoor,
[1:42:29] Speaker 5: because he's not looking to shoot it. So therefore, you
[1:42:34] Speaker 5: put somebody like that in that situation, I think it works.
[1:42:38] Speaker 5: I forgot Ben Simmons on the clip. That's what I'm saying.
[1:42:41] Speaker 5: But somebody like that in that situation where they moving,
[1:42:44] Speaker 5: KD's screening for Book, one go back door, one pop.
[1:42:48] Speaker 2: It's that shit, right? That shit tough to guard.
[1:42:50] Speaker 1: I know. And they efficient, right? Book was 11. Book missed, what,
[1:42:54] Speaker 1: eight shots yesterday? Right? He was like 12 for 20,
[1:42:55] Speaker 1: I think he was, something like that.
[1:42:56] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: KD missed, what, eight shots? So.
[1:43:06] Speaker 5: Bradley Beal was 11 for two nights. So, Beal been
[1:43:08] Speaker 5: balling his last three starts. So, you put them in
[1:43:11] Speaker 5: that position to just catch and shoot where they moving
[1:43:13] Speaker 5: and backdoor layups and shit like that.
[1:43:15] Speaker 2: I think it works for them. That's what I said.
[1:43:18] Speaker 2: They need to be somewhere that it's working. Those guys
[1:43:20] Speaker 2: are not standing.
[1:43:21] Speaker 1: You got... Like, even with the Lakers.
[1:43:23] Speaker 2: The difference between the Lakers last year and.
[1:43:25] Speaker 3: This year, right, is... How much do they.
[1:43:28] Speaker 2: Move without the ball with J.J. versus what they were
[1:43:32] Speaker 2: doing before? Before it was LeBron James, I'm gonna drive,
[1:43:34] Speaker 2: you're gonna sit there, and I'm gonna do this. Now
[1:43:36] Speaker 2: they got this, we're gonna pass it to you, we're
[1:43:38] Speaker 2: gonna screen, you're gonna roll off, we might get you
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: for the lob.
[1:43:40] Speaker 1: It's different. The difference is Luke.
[1:43:43] Speaker 5: So imagine, Nick, they run a split action. Before Luke,
[1:43:45] Speaker 5: they run a split action, right? To get to the
[1:43:46] Speaker 5: ISO shit that they want to get to, right?
[1:43:48] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:43:48] Speaker 5: I'm saying the Warriors, that's right. You run a split action.
[1:43:51] Speaker 5: Book go back door with KD this, that, and the third.
[1:43:53] Speaker 5: Now he peeling posts. Now he got his ISO, right?
[1:43:55] Speaker 5: So you still can do the same thing that you're doing,
[1:43:58] Speaker 5: but it's just a different way to get to it.
[1:44:00] Speaker 5: You can still be who you are, But it's just
[1:44:03] Speaker 5: different ways to get to the shit now. Instead of just,
[1:44:06] Speaker 5: we're going to come down. Here you go.
[1:44:09] Speaker 2: Go score. Oh, shit, he missed it. Like the triangle.
[1:44:15] Speaker 2: Do people know what the triangle offense was? It was
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: not meant for Michael Jordan nor Kobe Bryant. Their offense
[1:44:24] Speaker 2: wasn't made for them. The offense was made for the
[1:44:27] Speaker 2: defense that was trying to guard these two. You motherfuckers
[1:44:32] Speaker 2: is about to move around because he's cutting.
[1:44:34] Speaker 1: He's going back door. He's doing it. Hey, you're doing it.
[1:44:37] Speaker 2: And then the ISO is going right there. So you
[1:44:39] Speaker 2: done did this, stop this, this.
[1:44:42] Speaker 1: Boom. Now he gets to go. Versus giving him the ball.
[1:44:45] Speaker 1: Now all 10 defensive players is looking at him.
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: It was created for the defense.
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: What year is this for Phoenix? That's football. All of
[1:44:53] Speaker 1: them have been together. Is this the third year or
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: second year? How long has Ben Bobo been playing? How
[1:44:59] Speaker 1: long has Bobo been in the league? No, no, I've
[1:45:01] Speaker 1: been playing. Five games? Yeah. Five games.
[1:45:07] Speaker 3: There have been five games. If Bobo just trade me.
[1:45:10] Speaker 3: If I'm KD, just trade me. If I got to
[1:45:12] Speaker 3: rely on him, just trade me.
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. If y'all talking like.
[1:45:16] Speaker 3: This nigga going to come and be Superman. Nigga said Bobo, man.
[1:45:20] Speaker 1: Fuck out of here. You just expect him to be Bobo.
[1:45:22] Speaker 1: God damn. KD, please leave.
[1:45:24] Speaker 3: This nigga said your season relies on Bobo.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: Fuck that. So Bobo played 65 games for the Suns.
[1:45:31] Speaker 3: He's not guard playing no defense. Nobody's playing no defense.
[1:45:34] Speaker 3: He ain't going to pass the ball. He's going to
[1:45:36] Speaker 3: shoot just like the rest of the motherfuckers. Everybody out
[1:45:38] Speaker 3: there doing that fucking 24-hour fitness one-on-one moves.
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: Shit. Stop. It's over. Let's move on?
[1:45:45] Speaker 3: Move on.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: Sound like you smoke blacks. Let's move on. Y'all sound
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: like y'all smoke crack.
[1:45:50] Speaker 3: Y'all saying Bobo motherfuckers and shit.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: I'm good with you right now. I got it right here.
[1:45:56] Speaker 1: Now you ain't beating me, Giff. Uh, so Bobo.
[1:46:00] Speaker 2: So 12, 19 and 7, 18 and 14, uh, 15,
[1:46:04] Speaker 2: and last night, 23.
[1:46:07] Speaker 1: I done unlocked a new player. Let me try that again.
[1:46:13] Speaker 1: A player that was on the bench, uh, DNP, DNP, DNP, DNP,
[1:46:18] Speaker 1: you know, this mother DNP, DNP. And I just unlocked
[1:46:22] Speaker 1: the guy every time I gave him 24 minutes. With
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: or without Bobo? 24 minutes.
[1:46:27] Speaker 2: I just unlocked the guy that I did.
[1:46:29] Speaker 3: What is the record with Bobo?
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: Let me try it again. Then I'll answer your question.
[1:46:33] Speaker 2: I'm going to answer it.
[1:46:35] Speaker 1: So, 12?
[1:46:35] Speaker 2: He's at 19 and 9 since he's been starting. Which
[1:46:39] Speaker 2: means this man that I didn't even pay attention to
[1:46:44] Speaker 2: has started averaging 19-9.
[1:46:47] Speaker 1: My record doesn't matter because I didn't even know.
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: I didn't know I had him. This offense was created
[1:46:53] Speaker 2: for them. And he just came in the game, and
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: he's averaging 19-9. I need to now incorporate him because
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: I unlocked something new.
[1:47:04] Speaker 3: I unlocked the same shit with two and a half blocks.
[1:47:09] Speaker 1: Thank you. And he lost five games with them. I
[1:47:13] Speaker 1: don't even know. I just found out who he is.
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: It's like with Even Given Sunday, right? Quarterback, the team
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: was made for this. Cap Rooney.
[1:47:24] Speaker 2: Cap Rooney is made for this.
[1:47:25] Speaker 1: Then Willie Beeman came in. Willie Beeman. I'll leave the girl.
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: He's something that I didn't know about.
[1:47:34] Speaker 2: Everything has to change now because of his talent.
[1:47:37] Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
[1:47:39] Speaker 4: So, yeah.
[1:47:41] Speaker 1: That's how it works.
[1:47:43] Speaker 2: Like, this is something that I didn't even know I had.
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: I got to figure out how to fucking use it now.
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: That's why I said, this summer.
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: I'm not making a move. You're making a move. Are
[1:47:54] Speaker 1: you making a move? I don't want to draft. But
[1:47:56] Speaker 1: that move. No, what I'm saying is that move. I
[1:47:58] Speaker 1: don't need to draft nobody. I probably don't even need
[1:48:00] Speaker 1: to go for a big free agent. I just unlocked
[1:48:03] Speaker 1: a big free agent. Hence why I said last year
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: I would have offered him. If he came to me
[1:48:08] Speaker 1: and said 10 million because I'm going to play you. Look,
[1:48:11] Speaker 1: what you are 19 and 9. Now this motherfucker is
[1:48:13] Speaker 1: going to.
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: Cost you more money.
[1:48:15] Speaker 1: He's going to be a free agent? He's going to
[1:48:16] Speaker 1: cost you more money now.
[1:48:17] Speaker 3: That's the fact bill get me out of here yes
[1:48:20] Speaker 3: please you waving to me.
[1:48:22] Speaker 4: Yeah even if you get it even if you get
[1:48:24] Speaker 4: a new.
[1:48:24] Speaker 3: Coach it's just another name i want to shoot just
[1:48:27] Speaker 3: get me out you don't know i want to shoot
[1:48:30] Speaker 3: he has the ability to.
[1:48:31] Speaker 4: Shoot that's a lot of they got a lot of
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: talent though they got a.
[1:48:33] Speaker 1: Lot of time bro Why are you going to retire, Nick?
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: Why are you going to retire, Nick?
[1:48:38] Speaker 3: It's just another nigga that's pushed me to the back.
[1:48:40] Speaker 3: Just keep pushing me farther back. Talking about Bo now. Okay,
[1:48:43] Speaker 3: I'm Bill, but Bo here.
[1:48:45] Speaker 1: 19-9 and three starts. He pushed me to the back.
[1:48:47] Speaker 1: 19-9 and three starts. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: three blocks. Smart coach, man. You need a smart coach
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: who understands... You.
[1:48:53] Speaker 2: Need a smart coach that understands how to.
[1:48:55] Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what he goes from.
[1:48:59] Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. If he goes to 14 and
[1:49:01] Speaker 2: Bobo's averaging 14, between these two players before, I was
[1:49:05] Speaker 2: only averaging 18.
[1:49:06] Speaker 1: Now I'm averaging 14 and 14. Nigga, that's 28 points.
[1:49:10] Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about? And they still
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: lose it.
[1:49:12] Speaker 3: And no matter what are you saying... I'm not worried about.
[1:49:15] Speaker 1: That's why I want to get out of there from Bill.
[1:49:17] Speaker 1: I want to leave.
[1:49:18] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you talking about. I'm
[1:49:20] Speaker 2: starting a guy. I'm starting a guy.
[1:49:22] Speaker 1: He's 19 and 9.
[1:49:24] Speaker 2: Bill, if you want to leave, I got somebody who
[1:49:27] Speaker 2: has just one more point and motherfucking six more rebounds.
[1:49:30] Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Please. Have faith in him.
[1:49:33] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat.
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: The chat has been on. You sound like the same
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: people who were saying, you need to trade motherfucking Jalen
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: Brown and Tatum. The motherfuckers proved you wrong because.
[1:49:42] Speaker 3: A new coach came in and changed it. I ain't
[1:49:45] Speaker 3: never said that. I'm talking about Bill and Bobo.
[1:49:49] Speaker 1: Get me the fuck out of here.
[1:49:51] Speaker 3: Bobo.
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: Shout out to Bobo. Bobo who?
[1:49:53] Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you.
[1:49:54] Speaker 4: Shout out, Bobo.
[1:49:55] Speaker 2: There needs to be some questions, but I'm not going
[1:49:57] Speaker 2: to be thinking.
[1:49:59] Speaker 1: I got it. 19-9 on starting is embarrassing to my
[1:50:02] Speaker 1: franchise as a coach.
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: You put a guy in who you haven't been playing
[1:50:08] Speaker 2: all last year, all season, and then you put him in,
[1:50:12] Speaker 2: he started averaging 19-9. I mean, he's been playing better
[1:50:16] Speaker 2: than the center you had before. This ball you talk about.
[1:50:20] Speaker 2: The center you had before. What did I say last year?
[1:50:24] Speaker 2: I watched it.
[1:50:25] Speaker 1: He said, get Bobo around, and people found you. They
[1:50:27] Speaker 1: found you. Y'all remember. Hey, listen.
[1:50:29] Speaker 2: I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: to think ahead and say, you know what?
[1:50:33] Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and give you a three-year,
[1:50:34] Speaker 1: 10 million.
[1:50:36] Speaker 3: You're young.
[1:50:37] Speaker 1: Your attributes is crazy. Don't know where to play you.
[1:50:40] Speaker 2: Don't know how, but I know, motherfucker, if I put
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: you out there, you're going to do something. That's worth three-year, 10.
[1:50:44] Speaker 2: More than anybody's going to pay you.
[1:50:46] Speaker 1: What's up?
[1:50:48] Speaker 2: Because what happens is, this summer, he's, if he has
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: a good age, decent ageing. He's in the $ 20 million range.
[1:50:57] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: I'm like, KD, Bill, Bobo. Two and a half.
[1:51:02] Speaker 4: I'm rolling.
[1:51:04] Speaker 3: As a starter, 19 and nine.
[1:51:05] Speaker 1: They ain't got them between some games.
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: He's paid.
[1:51:10] Speaker 2: You keep talking about this shit, Nick. I said what
[1:51:13] Speaker 2: I'm going to do for next year. I just unlocked somebody.
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Are you listening with your
[1:51:18] Speaker 2: motherfucking ears?
[1:51:19] Speaker 3: Goddamn, why you got to keep their ass? Damn, you talking.
[1:51:24] Speaker 1: About Bobo leaving fucking the same.
[1:51:25] Speaker 3: Record as Portland. Who the fuck Portland got?
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: Nobody. All right.
[1:51:29] Speaker 3: Goddamn.
[1:51:30] Speaker 1: And Simon. Nobody. Shout out. But we asked the champ.
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, I said pay him three or
[1:51:38] Speaker 2: ten right last year, remember? Yeah.
[1:51:40] Speaker 1: So give him some bread. And I said, because if
[1:51:42] Speaker 1: he starts playing, it's going to cost you.
[1:51:44] Speaker 4: With 27 games left, averaging 19 to 9.
[1:51:46] Speaker 2: No, hey, listen, as a starter, 19 to 9.
[1:51:50] Speaker 1: As an agent, you're good. Suns are only two games
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: ahead of the Blazers.
[1:51:55] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is you're good as an agent.
[1:51:58] Speaker 2: You have done enough. I can sell you this summer.
[1:52:02] Speaker 1: You can sell them.
[1:52:03] Speaker 2: And it's going to cost you like I said it was.
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: I don't mean this points. Just sell them. Yeah. So
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: we asked the chat, can the Suns turn it around
[1:52:12] Speaker 1: this season? No. 78% said no. No, they can't. But
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about KD. No, they can't.
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: That's why I said I'm disappointed. They can't. It's over.
[1:52:21] Speaker 1: It's over? Yeah.
[1:52:24] Speaker 4: It's, I mean, but if that's the game plan and
[1:52:26] Speaker 4: they opening up and they can get a new coach.
[1:52:28] Speaker 3: I mean.
[1:52:29] Speaker 1: You can't. Let Bobo be your star.
[1:52:33] Speaker 2: Listen, as a team, just think how bad it looks, right?
[1:52:38] Speaker 2: You've been, you done had this piece on this bench
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: for how many years now?
[1:52:43] Speaker 4: Almost two, three.
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: Almost two, three, right? Two years.
[1:52:46] Speaker 2: You've been watching him in practice and all that stuff.
[1:52:48] Speaker 1: You ain't gave him no time. And then the time
[1:52:50] Speaker 1: you did give him, He showed out. Every single time
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: you gave him 20-plus minutes, he looked like he should
[1:52:57] Speaker 1: be playing minutes.
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: And then this season comes, you're struggling and all that,
[1:53:01] Speaker 2: and then, like, all right, Bobo, go play. And that
[1:53:04] Speaker 2: same piece has been averaging 19-9. Let's talk about....
[1:53:09] Speaker 1: You question....
[1:53:13] Speaker 2: The coach now. Like, y'all don't have practice. He hasn't
[1:53:17] Speaker 2: been showing these signs. What's been going on?
[1:53:19] Speaker 1: See, this....
[1:53:21] Speaker 5: It shouldn't have took for Bobo to start playing and
[1:53:25] Speaker 5: playing well for them to question what the fuck he
[1:53:28] Speaker 5: been doing as a coach.
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: You got three stupid... It shouldn't have took for this
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: to happen, for that to be in question.
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: So are we talking about Bobo or Phoenix?
[1:53:38] Speaker 5: I'm talking about Phoenix. I'm talking about ownership, management. Yeah,
[1:53:41] Speaker 5: we're having a different conversation. I'm talking about management and
[1:53:44] Speaker 5: ownership questioning the job because the three guys that you
[1:53:49] Speaker 5: have off.
[1:53:50] Speaker 1: Top, Mm-hmm.
[1:53:52] Speaker 5: That's been a problem. If one is out, we still
[1:53:54] Speaker 5: got two. That's what I'm saying. So it shouldn't been
[1:53:57] Speaker 5: what it has been.
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: Should not be this bad.
[1:53:58] Speaker 3: At all.
[1:53:59] Speaker 1: Right? Shouldn't been that. Last year, this year, got fucking swept. Like,
[1:54:03] Speaker 1: that shit, like, isn't bad.
[1:54:04] Speaker 5: So we got to reevaluate this thing. Now that this
[1:54:10] Speaker 5: kid is playing well, it just adds another element to
[1:54:15] Speaker 5: this disappointment that's already been going on under this head coach.
[1:54:19] Speaker 1: Right? You have to. With that kind of talent, you shouldn't. Yeah.
[1:54:26] Speaker 2: It's a disappointment, to say the least, unfortunately.
[1:54:33] Speaker 1: That's why I said. So what did I say? I
[1:54:35] Speaker 1: won't trade anybody.
[1:54:36] Speaker 2: I'm going to fire the coach, get somebody in.
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: I said this wasn't going to work day one.
[1:54:41] Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in.
[1:54:42] Speaker 4: I said it wasn't going to work day one.
[1:54:44] Speaker 5: I'm a firm believer in, and I said it time
[1:54:46] Speaker 5: and time again, I believe this wholeheartedly. Had we had
[1:54:49] Speaker 5: a different coach in Denver, we'd win a championship, dog.
[1:54:53] Speaker 1: I'm not going to beat Kobe.
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:54:57] Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep going.
[1:54:57] Speaker 5: We threw the ball away twice on out-of-bounds play because
[1:55:00] Speaker 5: we didn't have no out-of-bounds. We were trying to zip
[1:55:02] Speaker 5: a mellow up. Trust me, we, dog. So, trust me, bro, like, no,
[1:55:07] Speaker 5: we honestly thought we had a better team than them.
[1:55:09] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:55:10] Speaker 3: Kobe was that, but... Nah. But they did beat them,
[1:55:15] Speaker 3: but still, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:55:16] Speaker 5: We had a different coach with a different approach that
[1:55:20] Speaker 5: coached the totality of the game and not just one
[1:55:24] Speaker 5: side of the ball. So we had one of our
[1:55:27] Speaker 5: point guards that was a long way calling my offensive coordinator, which.
[1:55:32] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:55:33] Speaker 5: Knows that side of the ball well, absolutely. I've never
[1:55:35] Speaker 5: taken that from it. But when they get high stakes
[1:55:40] Speaker 5: in certain end-of-game situations, times, scores, situations, y'all have practiced
[1:55:45] Speaker 5: these things, y'all have done these things.
[1:55:46] Speaker 1: We never did.
[1:55:48] Speaker 5: So when the game is online, of course, we've vets,
[1:55:50] Speaker 5: we've been in situations, but when a team takes something away,
[1:55:53] Speaker 5: when you haven't diagrammed a different strategy in this situation
[1:55:57] Speaker 5: to help this talent that you have, We're not saying
[1:56:01] Speaker 5: we need you to go out and play for us.
[1:56:02] Speaker 1: It's on us to go out and play. Yeah, absolutely.
[1:56:05] Speaker 2: But at times, put us in situations to be successful.
[1:56:10] Speaker 1: And we didn't have that.
[1:56:12] Speaker 2: And that same person made me, I may look good.
[1:56:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:56:16] Speaker 2: Because you didn't have to worry about creating that individual bucket.
[1:56:22] Speaker 1: Just give me the ball and I'll.
[1:56:23] Speaker 3: Do it for you.
[1:56:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:56:24] Speaker 2: So I know what you're talking about. The things that
[1:56:28] Speaker 2: you will struggle with I made him look good because
[1:56:30] Speaker 2: he didn't have to worry about calling that play or
[1:56:32] Speaker 2: trying to design what happens down this with six seconds left.
[1:56:37] Speaker 2: Just give him the ball, go one for a flat.
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, cool. You know what I mean?
[1:56:42] Speaker 1: Shit like that, bro. We talk sons.
[1:56:46] Speaker 2: It's another level of talk.
[1:56:48] Speaker 1: Wake up from your slumber. God damn.
[1:56:51] Speaker 2: George, you don't even know what conversation we're actually having.
[1:56:54] Speaker 1: You just interrupted. You don't even know what we're talking about.
[1:56:56] Speaker 1: You live on the corner. You mad.
[1:56:57] Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, you want
[1:57:01] Speaker 3: to be right.
[1:57:02] Speaker 1: I don't know. We're having a different conversation. It's not
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: that you're right or wrong. You're not even having the
[1:57:09] Speaker 1: same conversation as us.
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: You can't tell me they was going to beat the Lakers.
[1:57:12] Speaker 1: We're not even talking about that.
[1:57:15] Speaker 3: That's what I was talking about him with.
[1:57:16] Speaker 2: We're not talking about that.
[1:57:18] Speaker 3: You can't switch what I was talking about him with.
[1:57:20] Speaker 1: He wasn't talking about that. Hey, George, you're a Cleveland fan, right?
[1:57:24] Speaker 1: All right, here we go. You're right, Gil.
[1:57:27] Speaker 2: Is your offense different than last year? Okay, that's the
[1:57:30] Speaker 2: difference between this and last year.
[1:57:33] Speaker 1: A new coach, right? A new coach playing in a
[1:57:35] Speaker 1: different offense.
[1:57:36] Speaker 4: You're number one.
[1:57:37] Speaker 1: Detroit, right?
[1:57:39] Speaker 2: Your offense last year and how you played last year
[1:57:42] Speaker 2: is very different. Wasn't successful.
[1:57:47] Speaker 1: You changed the coach. He put something in different. And
[1:57:52] Speaker 1: the results is different. And guess what offense he's running?
[1:57:55] Speaker 1: The offense that Cleveland ran last year.
[1:57:56] Speaker 4: What?
[1:57:59] Speaker 3: Nice personnel.
[1:58:03] Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is, I'm watching something and I'm saying,
[1:58:08] Speaker 2: you don't need new players.
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: No, sir. You did a new coach that revamped this.
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
[1:58:14] Speaker 2: And have these boys moving without the ball backdooring.
[1:58:18] Speaker 1: You guys are going to be more successful. All right, well,
[1:58:20] Speaker 1: let's talk about one of those players, Kevin Durant. KD
[1:58:24] Speaker 1: being very vocal about the perceived NBA viewership issues and
[1:58:26] Speaker 1: fans complaining about the current product. and the subject of
[1:58:29] Speaker 1: criticism throughout the latter stages of his career for leveraging
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: his power to play where he wants. But one thing
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: that can't be denied is just how much the future
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: Hall of Famer loves the game. Last week, Netflix debuted
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: Court of Gold, a docuseries that followed Team USA, France, Serbia,
[1:58:43] Speaker 1: and the Canadian basketball squads in their quest for gold
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: at the 2024 Paris Olympics. KD was emotional when talking
[1:58:48] Speaker 1: about playing in the Olympics and just how much the
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: game of basketball means to him. I can tell how
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: much it means to you, man.
[1:58:55] Speaker 4: No, for sure.
[1:58:55] Speaker 8: For sure, because it's like.
[1:59:00] Speaker 8: I come from neighborhoods where people don't even talk to
[1:59:02] Speaker 8: each other. Like, so much hate in the world, too. Like,
[1:59:11] Speaker 8: when you finally, when people get to start laughing and
[1:59:15] Speaker 8: joking for a game of ball, like, it's cool to me. So, like,
[1:59:18] Speaker 8: it get me emotional, dog. Like, oh, my bad. Because
[1:59:24] Speaker 8: it's crazy to see. Because, like, It's crazy to see
[1:59:29] Speaker 8: somebody say they traveled so long to come see their
[1:59:32] Speaker 8: favorite player play in the Olympics. They spend that money,
[1:59:34] Speaker 8: they bring their whole family.
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: It's just dope to me.
[1:59:43] Speaker 8: The game just saved my life. It brought me and
[1:59:47] Speaker 8: my family out of a lot of bullshit, so I'm
[1:59:49] Speaker 8: just grateful for it.
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: For real. So we've seen the clip. Shout out Quarter
[1:59:56] Speaker 1: Gold on Netflix. Thank you, Gil. Beautiful moment. Wanted to
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: try to unite the couch before we wrap up this
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: show today. So earlier this week, we had Boogie Cousins
[2:00:06] Speaker 1: on the show. We talked about player legacies, how many
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: don't have control over them. KD is an exception as
[2:00:10] Speaker 1: he's leveraged his power to leave OKC to win two chips,
[2:00:13] Speaker 1: two finals MVPs with the Warriors, for a dip into
[2:00:15] Speaker 1: Brooklyn to join forces with Kyrie, then getting traded to
[2:00:17] Speaker 1: the Suns to team up with Devin Booker. Is the
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: criticism KD gets unfair considering how much love he has
[2:00:23] Speaker 1: for the game of basketball? I should... That's it right there.
[2:00:32] Speaker 3: I think people expect him more. Like, they want him
[2:00:36] Speaker 3: to win more because his talent is so good. Like,
[2:00:38] Speaker 3: you expect him to win everywhere he go, pretty much.
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: Like a LeBron.
[2:00:42] Speaker 3: No, it's only like him and LeBron, a couple players
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: like that.
[2:00:46] Speaker 1: Like, when you go.
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: When they go to a team, you expect them to
[2:00:51] Speaker 3: go further than what 27 wins.
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: That they got.
[2:00:55] Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. But Bobo saving it. That man,
[2:01:00] Speaker 3: that cry, legacy.
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: Not where I would expect the combo to go.
[2:01:09] Speaker 4: You know, for me, like when I look at that, man,
[2:01:11] Speaker 4: you know, I just look about how beautiful life is
[2:01:14] Speaker 4: and how good God is. You know, to be able
[2:01:17] Speaker 4: to play the game, you know, where he comes from,
[2:01:20] Speaker 4: you know, him honoring his craft and working hard every day. So,
[2:01:23] Speaker 4: you know, just to be able to, like we said,
[2:01:25] Speaker 4: come out of the neighborhoods and, you know, his family
[2:01:27] Speaker 4: never had anything You know, it just shows how much
[2:01:29] Speaker 4: he really just loved the game. So how can you
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: even hate him? Like, he just literally just loves basketball. Like,
[2:01:34] Speaker 4: it don't, like, nothing else matters. He could just be
[2:01:36] Speaker 4: in the gym and just shoot all day. That's all
[2:01:38] Speaker 4: he gonna do. So, you know, like, when you love
[2:01:42] Speaker 4: something and you're very passionate about it, you're gonna get
[2:01:44] Speaker 4: hate because you're doing something other people can't do.
[2:01:46] Speaker 1: So for me, KD got a lot of flack for
[2:01:48] Speaker 1: burner accounts. Now we see why he has one. But
[2:01:51] Speaker 1: that's my point. Man just wanted to talk basketball without
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: people being like, ooh, it's KD. Look what KD said.
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: He just wanted to have conversations with people. We kind
[2:01:58] Speaker 1: of clowned him initially for that, but when you take
[2:02:00] Speaker 1: a step back and look at him, this is a
[2:02:01] Speaker 1: dude who literally loves the game. He's been very vocal
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: with tweets recently about all the criticism the game has gotten.
[2:02:06] Speaker 2: He grew up in an era, same era we grew
[2:02:10] Speaker 2: up in, that when they showed you an NBA player,
[2:02:17] Speaker 2: they showed you his greatness, right? They showed you what
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: he meant to the game, what he brought to the game.
[2:02:26] Speaker 1: We grew up.
[2:02:28] Speaker 2: In an era where they only highlighted your excellence.
[2:02:37] Speaker 3: He is playing in.
[2:02:38] Speaker 1: An era where it's all personal hate. No factual anything.
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: It's all about, he grew up, it's all about winning
[2:02:50] Speaker 2: and going out there doing your best.
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: And that's what he's been trying to do. That's what
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: all these kids have been trying to do. And they're criticized.
[2:02:59] Speaker 1: Their legacies is torn.
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: Apart by people who don't put in the same time,
[2:03:06] Speaker 2: who do not look at the game the same way.
[2:03:11] Speaker 1: And that's not what they grew up on. You know,
[2:03:15] Speaker 1: when you talk about.
[2:03:16] Speaker 2: Magic Bird, Charles Barkley, Dunk, all these people, it was
[2:03:20] Speaker 2: all their greatness.
[2:03:22] Speaker 1: We didn't know nothing about them. We didn't care. We
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: don't know about their wives. We don't know who their
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: kids were. Now that's all this era is about.
[2:03:31] Speaker 2: You averaging 28, 7, and 7, your legacy ain't shit.
[2:03:37] Speaker 2: It's empty points.
[2:03:38] Speaker 1: Who are you? This and that. What?
[2:03:41] Speaker 2: What? So, yes, it makes him tear up because he
[2:03:47] Speaker 2: knows how much he's put into this game. This is
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: why someone like Kyrie is coming and staging the motherfucking building.
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: He don't want y'all energy into this purity of something.
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: You guys always bring up the Michael Jordan and the Kobe.
[2:04:04] Speaker 2: It's the purity of what they're putting in. They done
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: pushed this to the Devin Bookers, the LeBrons, and all
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: these guys, and they're trying to carry on something that
[2:04:15] Speaker 2: they were taught, but the people who's judging it They've
[2:04:21] Speaker 2: learned from reality TV. And that's what the emotions is for.
[2:04:30] Speaker 2: It's the human element of this, right? Everything and.
[2:04:37] Speaker 5: It's overcome, childhoods, whatever, growing up, making it out of that, Texas,
[2:04:44] Speaker 5: becoming this, seeing it almost, taking away injuries. Like, it's
[2:04:49] Speaker 5: a lot, man, that go into that. For you to
[2:04:53] Speaker 5: sit there and reflect in the moment from a question
[2:04:56] Speaker 5: that's asked. Simple question. Simple question that's asked. And sometimes
[2:05:02] Speaker 5: that's all it takes for you to have that reflection
[2:05:06] Speaker 5: on what all you have accomplished, how hard you worked
[2:05:12] Speaker 5: in this, like in that simple time frame. And He's
[2:05:18] Speaker 5: passionate about it, man. So shout out to KD, man.
[2:05:21] Speaker 1: It's the work. It's the appreciation. Like you said, people
[2:05:28] Speaker 1: come and bring their family. Because I always say, man,
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: for people to come see you and respect what you do,
[2:05:34] Speaker 1: the love that they show you, it's unmatched for people
[2:05:40] Speaker 1: to respect what you do. My kids always ask me, Dad,
[2:05:43] Speaker 1: why do so many people say hi?
[2:05:46] Speaker 5: I mean, I did something right. I can only look
[2:05:48] Speaker 5: at it as the idea of something right with my time.
[2:05:51] Speaker 5: I wasn't multi-year all-star, wasn't this, wasn't that, like these guys,
[2:05:55] Speaker 5: but to feel appreciated from what you did, you can't
[2:05:59] Speaker 5: put a value to that and know all the things
[2:06:03] Speaker 5: that he's had to overcome as of late. The injuries,
[2:06:06] Speaker 5: that shit takes a toll on you. To do it again,
[2:06:10] Speaker 5: then to come back again, that shit, and to still
[2:06:13] Speaker 5: be doing it at a high level, you got to
[2:06:16] Speaker 5: respect it.
[2:06:18] Speaker 3: Can't hate become, like, because people want you to win
[2:06:21] Speaker 3: and they get mad that you're not doing that?
[2:06:24] Speaker 2: No.
[2:06:24] Speaker 3: Like, can't somebody be mad, like, damn, this guy should
[2:06:26] Speaker 3: be winning the game?
[2:06:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:06:28] Speaker 3: And you can't be mad at the person because he's
[2:06:30] Speaker 3: not doing what you think he can do? If you
[2:06:32] Speaker 3: ain't never been in that situation. I'm just saying, like,
[2:06:35] Speaker 3: if I really love a KD, if I'm a fan
[2:06:39] Speaker 3: of the game and I really like KD, is that
[2:06:42] Speaker 3: considered hate if I believe that he could win and
[2:06:45] Speaker 3: get shit done?
[2:06:46] Speaker 1: But he's not doing it. And I'm like, what the
[2:06:48] Speaker 1: fuck did you do?
[2:06:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fan.
[2:06:49] Speaker 1: That's called a fan.
[2:06:50] Speaker 3: But ain't that, don't that make people great? Ain't that
[2:06:53] Speaker 3: what the greatness you were talking about? But he's not
[2:06:55] Speaker 3: being judged.
[2:06:55] Speaker 2: But he's not being judged by his fans. The media
[2:06:59] Speaker 2: is not his fans.
[2:07:01] Speaker 3: You see the difference?
[2:07:02] Speaker 2: So a fan is, you.
[2:07:03] Speaker 1: Played bad today. Ah, boo. Tomorrow, I cheer you. As
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: a player, you understand that.
[2:07:11] Speaker 3: Now, if I'm going out there playing.
[2:07:14] Speaker 2: Or I play bad and you boo me, then I
[2:07:17] Speaker 2: come play great, and you don't give me the.
[2:07:19] Speaker 1: Cheer, and you only.
[2:07:23] Speaker 2: Give me the boos, you don't give me the cheers,
[2:07:26] Speaker 2: that becomes the personal problem with the players themselves.
[2:07:30] Speaker 3: I don't know how you... I'm just talking about in general.
[2:07:33] Speaker 3: I didn't know it was based just on media. I'm
[2:07:35] Speaker 3: talking about in general, like, Fans, too. Fans get mad
[2:07:39] Speaker 3: when they.
[2:07:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that.
[2:07:41] Speaker 5: That's their favorite team or their favorite player.
[2:07:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That shouldn't be considered hate
[2:07:46] Speaker 3: to me, though.
[2:07:46] Speaker 2: But those are not the games we judge. The fans
[2:07:50] Speaker 2: is going to give him the gratification. The gratification of
[2:07:52] Speaker 2: why you have a burner phone It doesn't come from fans.
[2:07:58] Speaker 2: Those are not fans. It's the hatred of it, right, where.
[2:08:02] Speaker 3: We're in an era where.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: I don't like you.
[2:08:08] Speaker 2: Because your legacy is fucking with somebody else's legacy.
[2:08:11] Speaker 3: That I love.
[2:08:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Right? Yeah. There's no, it's not... No reason
[2:08:16] Speaker 1: to say that. Right, that's why I be.
[2:08:18] Speaker 4: Goddammit, you over here tapping into my favorite player.
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: I be like, wait a minute, I like, I like
[2:08:23] Speaker 2: all of them.
[2:08:24] Speaker 1: Like, there's no.
[2:08:25] Speaker 2: I like them all, like, where I rank them at.
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:08:28] Speaker 2: Like, this is when you know someone, this is the problem.
[2:08:32] Speaker 2: When they say, all right, who's the GOAT? And you're
[2:08:33] Speaker 2: gonna be like, all right, Jordan's the GOAT. All right,
[2:08:36] Speaker 2: who's number two? Kobe's number two. Who's number three? LeBron's
[2:08:40] Speaker 2: number three. The reason he's number three is because he
[2:08:42] Speaker 2: only won four or five. Like, wait, why are you
[2:08:44] Speaker 2: doing that? Why is there a negative notion on why
[2:08:48] Speaker 2: he's three? There was no negative notion on why he's two.
[2:08:52] Speaker 2: There's not going to be a negative notion on why
[2:08:53] Speaker 2: the person's number four. But you're throwing in a negative
[2:08:57] Speaker 2: conversation talking.
[2:08:59] Speaker 1: About some legacy.
[2:09:01] Speaker 2: Why?
[2:09:01] Speaker 3: Because he could be number one if he put some
[2:09:04] Speaker 3: one on.
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: I can't be number one. That's what I'm saying.
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: But number two could be number one if he won something,
[2:09:11] Speaker 2: but you didn't do that to him. Number four could
[2:09:14] Speaker 2: be number one if he won.
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: All his championships. You don't do that to them. No.
[2:09:21] Speaker 4: You don't think people say things about Kobe?
[2:09:23] Speaker 1: Yeah. No. They don't bring up the man years. They
[2:09:27] Speaker 1: don't bring up nothing.
[2:09:28] Speaker 4: Y'all just said Kobe was a sidekick.
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: Hold on. Let's try this again. When someone's talking about
[2:09:33] Speaker 1: a top ten... Top ten list.
[2:09:37] Speaker 2: And when you go about a top ten list and
[2:09:39] Speaker 2: they explain to you their top ten list, there's only
[2:09:43] Speaker 2: going to be one player on the top ten list
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: that has a negative mark on them. When you talk
[2:09:49] Speaker 2: about Duncan, you're like, yeah, Duncan is number eight. He
[2:09:51] Speaker 2: got five rings. He got two finals MVP. He did this, this, this, this.
[2:09:56] Speaker 1: Ten. Shaq. Shaq got.
[2:09:59] Speaker 2: five rings and four rings, you got this, this, this.
[2:10:03] Speaker 2: That's all you're doing, right? There's no negative on why
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: you're putting him here. Only LeBron is.
[2:10:08] Speaker 1: Gonna get that. You're gonna say LeBron's.
[2:10:10] Speaker 2: Number three because he didn't win this, he didn't win that,
[2:10:14] Speaker 2: he didn't win this.
[2:10:15] Speaker 1: That's because he's a threat to one. Okay. Then what
[2:10:19] Speaker 1: happened to two? Kobe's a threat to one, too. They
[2:10:23] Speaker 1: say the same thing about Kobe. Kobe do say things
[2:10:25] Speaker 1: about Kobe. First of all, when you say... Hold on.
[2:10:29] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[2:10:31] Speaker 1: If Jordan's number one and Kobe.
[2:10:33] Speaker 2: When they say Kobe, they be like, he has five rings.
[2:10:35] Speaker 2: He's the second coming to Jordan.
[2:10:38] Speaker 1: He did this, this, this. That's it.
[2:10:39] Speaker 3: But when he was playing, that was his argument. He
[2:10:42] Speaker 3: don't got six rings. He did not say that was
[2:10:44] Speaker 3: his argument.
[2:10:44] Speaker 2: But no one says he don't have six rings. He
[2:10:46] Speaker 2: don't have ten finals.
[2:10:47] Speaker 3: When he was playing, yeah, they said that. You just
[2:10:49] Speaker 3: say he's number two.
[2:10:50] Speaker 2: He was the second best thing to Michael Jordan.
[2:10:52] Speaker 1: No, I don't say that. That's how you say it.
[2:10:54] Speaker 2: You don't use no negative on him. You just say
[2:10:57] Speaker 2: he's the second to Michael Jordan. He has a better
[2:11:00] Speaker 2: skill set than Michael Jordan.
[2:11:01] Speaker 1: And that's it. When he was playing, they was. That's
[2:11:03] Speaker 1: all they say right now. It's always been the rings.
[2:11:07] Speaker 2: You... It don't matter, but you don't say he don't
[2:11:10] Speaker 2: have six.
[2:11:10] Speaker 1: You just say he has five. He has an MVP.
[2:11:13] Speaker 1: You just, you say all great things. They don't compare
[2:11:17] Speaker 1: his rings. They don't compare his rings. They don't compare
[2:11:19] Speaker 1: his rings to Bill Russell. You just say it. Bill Russell,
[2:11:23] Speaker 1: he has this, this, this, this. You move on. It's
[2:11:25] Speaker 1: about rings.
[2:11:26] Speaker 3: But that's the biggest argument they say about Michael Jordan
[2:11:29] Speaker 3: and Kobe and LeBron. They don't have the same ring
[2:11:31] Speaker 3: as Jordan. That's why they can't be.
[2:11:33] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if you ask somebody, I want
[2:11:35] Speaker 2: you to go and ask somebody their top ten, right? Say,
[2:11:39] Speaker 2: give me your top ten and explain why they're in
[2:11:42] Speaker 2: these numbers.
[2:11:43] Speaker 4: Some people don't have Kobe in their top ten.
[2:11:47] Speaker 1: It don't matter who they have. Watch what happens.
[2:11:50] Speaker 5: Why are you talking to them, Dan?
[2:11:53] Speaker 4: Some people don't.
[2:11:54] Speaker 1: Okay, but watch what happens.
[2:11:57] Speaker 2: Even if they don't have Kobe in there, it don't matter.
[2:11:59] Speaker 2: Watch when they get to one, three, four, five, six.
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: When you hear what they're saying about every single one,
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: they're going to tell you when they get to LeBron James,
[2:12:13] Speaker 2: Instead of saying LeBron has, he leads the NBA in
[2:12:17] Speaker 2: most points scored, he has four rings, he has four MVPs,
[2:12:21] Speaker 2: this is why he's, they're.
[2:12:22] Speaker 1: Not gonna do that.
[2:12:24] Speaker 2: They're gonna say, this is why he's number three.
[2:12:28] Speaker 1: He went to the finals ten times, but only won four.
[2:12:31] Speaker 2: He switched teams to Miami. That is going to be
[2:12:35] Speaker 2: the resume.
[2:12:36] Speaker 1: It's like they're trying.
[2:12:37] Speaker 2: To express to you why he's not number one or whatever.
[2:12:40] Speaker 2: Versus if you get to Magic Johnson, what do you
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: think they're going to say about Magic Johnson?
[2:12:44] Speaker 4: Okay, but what's the standards of these guys that are
[2:12:46] Speaker 4: number one? They all stick with one team. You're doing it.
[2:12:50] Speaker 4: But this is the way this is. These are the standards.
[2:12:54] Speaker 1: You're doing it.
[2:12:55] Speaker 4: But these are the standards.
[2:12:56] Speaker 1: You're doing it exactly what I'm saying. Those are the standards.
[2:12:59] Speaker 1: There's only one number one. You put him there.
[2:13:01] Speaker 4: Those are the standards that they have, that they have
[2:13:03] Speaker 4: for it.
[2:13:04] Speaker 1: He just explained to me why he got number one.
[2:13:07] Speaker 1: Kareem changed teams.
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: Again, listen, you just did exactly what I'm saying.
[2:13:13] Speaker 4: Kareem ain't one to me.
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: I say it was one, but you're gonna say one, right?
[2:13:18] Speaker 2: Yeah six rings this that that boom number one boom
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: Number two, you're gonna say whoever that is wherever you
[2:13:25] Speaker 2: have LeBron You're gonna say out.
[2:13:27] Speaker 1: Your mouth.
[2:13:31] Speaker 2: You got him wherever you have him it don't matter
[2:13:34] Speaker 2: you're gonna compare him to to number one. So that
[2:13:38] Speaker 2: means you're gonna say everything that's wrong with him on
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: why he's not number one.
[2:13:44] Speaker 4: Why?
[2:13:45] Speaker 2: You didn't do that for two. You didn't do that
[2:13:47] Speaker 2: for three. You didn't do that for five, six, seven, eight.
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: You just read out why they're in that position and
[2:13:54] Speaker 2: you move on. Why can't you just say, At number three,
[2:13:59] Speaker 2: LeBron James. He led the NBA in most points. He
[2:14:02] Speaker 2: played 22 years. He has 21 All-Stars. He did this, that,
[2:14:06] Speaker 2: and that. Cool.
[2:14:07] Speaker 1: Number four is Magic Johnson. He has three MVPs, the
[2:14:10] Speaker 1: youngest MVP, blah, blah, blah. Number five. No one does that.
[2:14:15] Speaker 1: There's going to be one person.
[2:14:17] Speaker 4: They're going to throw in the joke with Magic, though.
[2:14:18] Speaker 4: They're going to throw in some shade with Magic. For sure,
[2:14:21] Speaker 4: they're going.
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: To throw in some shade with Magic. They only do
[2:14:23] Speaker 2: it to LeBron. James, you talk about his negative thoughts
[2:14:29] Speaker 2: in his resume, for I have no.
[2:14:31] Speaker 1: Watch.
[2:14:32] Speaker 2: Ask somebody about the top ten.
[2:14:33] Speaker 1: Watch what they do with... Just say I said it.
[2:14:35] Speaker 1: Watch what they do with LeBron.
[2:14:36] Speaker 2: They're going to give you all pros on Jordan, all
[2:14:39] Speaker 2: pros on number two.
[2:14:40] Speaker 1: You're going to have negatives, then pros, pros, pros, pros, pros. Watch.
[2:14:45] Speaker 3: That's how it works.
[2:14:46] Speaker 1: I don't know why they do that.
[2:14:47] Speaker 3: But they do that to Kobe, too, though. They do
[2:14:50] Speaker 3: that to anybody they feel is a threat to Michael Jordan.
[2:14:53] Speaker 4: They said Kobe Bryant was a side to Shaq, right?
[2:14:56] Speaker 1: He's a fake Jordan.
[2:14:58] Speaker 4: And then you said Kobe Bryant was never the best
[2:15:00] Speaker 4: player in the NBA.
[2:15:01] Speaker 3: No, but they said he's a fake Jordan. That's why
[2:15:03] Speaker 3: he's not number one. He wanted to be like him.
[2:15:05] Speaker 3: He ain't got six rings.
[2:15:06] Speaker 1: You hear that all the time. Ask someone.
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: I'm telling you, go home and say, yo, give me
[2:15:10] Speaker 2: your top ten and then explain why.
[2:15:12] Speaker 1: I'm just saying go do it. I heard it already.
[2:15:15] Speaker 1: Everybody's saying that. Go do it. Do it. Why Kobe
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: not number one? He wants to be like Jordan. That's
[2:15:18] Speaker 1: what everybody's saying. I want you to text him. I
[2:15:20] Speaker 1: don't want to hear why he's too much like Mike.
[2:15:22] Speaker 4: Every Mike fan say, he ain't too much like Mike.
[2:15:24] Speaker 2: I don't want to hear why he's number one. Just say,
[2:15:27] Speaker 2: wherever you have him, just explain.
[2:15:29] Speaker 1: So, Cemetery Larry in the Gills Arena group chat right now.
[2:15:34] Speaker 1: I respect Shaw, so I'm going to read what he
[2:15:35] Speaker 1: had to say. He said, these niggas got to bring
[2:15:37] Speaker 1: up Kobe because he great. You said to Gil, you're lying.
[2:15:40] Speaker 1: You said Kobe is disqualified because of Shaq. Disqualified for what?
[2:15:44] Speaker 1: You said his three rings don't count. For what? Gil
[2:15:47] Speaker 1: a liar, then he did a SpongeBob meme with him
[2:15:49] Speaker 1: glazing his... For what position? Glazing.
[2:15:53] Speaker 2: This is comparing somebody to somebody else when you're saying
[2:15:57] Speaker 2: top ten. Like, listen to what I'm saying. When you
[2:16:00] Speaker 2: explain your top ten, right?
[2:16:04] Speaker 1: And I'll be an example. One, Michael Jordan. He's number one,
[2:16:08] Speaker 1: because I got beat up. All right? I got beat
[2:16:12] Speaker 1: up for all his shoes and his greatness. One.
[2:16:14] Speaker 2: Two, LeBron James, 47,000 points. Number three, childhood hero. He's
[2:16:19] Speaker 2: my childhood hero. He's the American kid who went from greatness, fell,
[2:16:23] Speaker 2: came back to greatness. Number four, Magic Johnson. He was
[2:16:26] Speaker 2: the magic man. Came out the ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
[2:16:29] Speaker 2: Number five, Shaquille O'Neal. As a young kid, breaking back boards,
[2:16:33] Speaker 2: doing all this. You see how I did that?
[2:16:36] Speaker 4: Right, but they also have flaws. They also have flaws.
[2:16:39] Speaker 2: But why am I telling you someone's flaws?
[2:16:41] Speaker 4: Because that's the reason why they're not number one.
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: Because you're not number one. So I need to know
[2:16:47] Speaker 1: why he's not number one.
[2:16:48] Speaker 4: Because I want to know why he's not number one.
[2:16:50] Speaker 4: If he's that great, why are you number three?
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: Why are you number four? Why are you number two?
[2:16:55] Speaker 1: Tell me why.
[2:16:55] Speaker 4: It's only one number one. If you ain't number one,
[2:16:58] Speaker 4: then why are you number two? Why are you number three?
[2:17:00] Speaker 1: Why are you number four? Why are you number five?
[2:17:01] Speaker 1: Now you see why the problem is this.
[2:17:05] Speaker 2: Why do you have to be something wrong with you
[2:17:09] Speaker 2: for you to be.
[2:17:09] Speaker 4: Because you're not number one, so something went wrong. Something
[2:17:12] Speaker 4: went wrong. Nobody's congratulating on who's... Nobody cares who's number
[2:17:18] Speaker 4: two or who's number three.
[2:17:19] Speaker 2: It's all about who's number one. It's always been about that.
[2:17:21] Speaker 2: All right, who's the top ten in football? Because I
[2:17:25] Speaker 2: guarantee you when they go through the list, there's never
[2:17:27] Speaker 2: gonna be a negative on why who's not number one.
[2:17:31] Speaker 4: It gotta be. It gotta be a reason why you're
[2:17:34] Speaker 4: not number one.
[2:17:35] Speaker 1: It has to be. No, that's not how they do it.
[2:17:38] Speaker 1: Only basketball does that.
[2:17:40] Speaker 2: No, it's not only basketball. It's only LeBron James. Is
[2:17:44] Speaker 2: John Brady number one in football? Many would say that.
[2:17:48] Speaker 1: All right, how about this? Before LeBron James came in. Stop.
[2:17:51] Speaker 3: I can't say it's only LeBron James. Okay, go ahead.
[2:17:54] Speaker 3: Before LeBron James.
[2:17:55] Speaker 1: Now I'm scared. So, cool. Let's say just the year 2000. Oh,
[2:17:59] Speaker 1: my God. The year 2000. A great year. The top
[2:18:03] Speaker 1: ten was what? Jordan, Kareem, what?
[2:18:10] Speaker 2: Bill Russell, Larry Magic, and all that. Larry Bird, Magic, yeah.
[2:18:15] Speaker 2: Why Kareem wasn't two? I mean, why wasn't Kareem number one?
[2:18:20] Speaker 1: Because people are haters, Gil, as you know.
[2:18:21] Speaker 4: Because he was just doing this.
[2:18:25] Speaker 3: Why?
[2:18:26] Speaker 1: A very different question.
[2:18:27] Speaker 3: No big is a number one.
[2:18:30] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So why wasn't he number one?
[2:18:37] Speaker 4: It had to be some type of floss.
[2:18:38] Speaker 1: You see how you don't have... A great actor is what...
[2:18:41] Speaker 1: They don't put bigs.
[2:18:43] Speaker 4: Great actor, for sure.
[2:18:45] Speaker 1: You know you're proving.
[2:18:47] Speaker 2: You can't come up with anything because there was never
[2:18:49] Speaker 2: a narrative like that.
[2:18:50] Speaker 1: But whoever had them won.
[2:18:51] Speaker 3: You can't say it was only for LeBron because you
[2:18:53] Speaker 3: heard the same thing, the same shit about Kobe.
[2:18:56] Speaker 1: I said number two.
[2:18:57] Speaker 2: I just said number two, right? Kareem was number two
[2:19:00] Speaker 2: by 2000. You didn't have nothing negative to actually say
[2:19:03] Speaker 2: because there was no negative on why he wasn't number one.
[2:19:06] Speaker 2: He's two. Number three. Whoever was number three, he just said...
[2:19:10] Speaker 2: Who didn't.
[2:19:11] Speaker 4: Have anything negative to say about Kareem?
[2:19:14] Speaker 1: Let's go look at the article.
[2:19:14] Speaker 3: Nobody feels like that's a threat to Michael Jordan. Nobody
[2:19:17] Speaker 3: feels like he's a threat to Michael Jordan. If somebody
[2:19:20] Speaker 3: come and threat Jordan, that's when it becomes that. Why
[2:19:23] Speaker 3: he's not number one. You act like it only happened
[2:19:25] Speaker 3: to LeBron. It happened to Kobe Bryant, too. Let's keep
[2:19:27] Speaker 3: it real.
[2:19:28] Speaker 1: Stop.
[2:19:29] Speaker 3: I know you fucking love LeBron, but don't disrespect. Niggas
[2:19:32] Speaker 3: wasn't saying, oh, he can't be number one. He want
[2:19:34] Speaker 3: to be like Jordan.
[2:19:35] Speaker 1: You can't.
[2:19:36] Speaker 3: Stop this shit, man, for real. Let's stop being, let's stop.
[2:19:38] Speaker 3: For real, let's stop.
[2:19:40] Speaker 4: People love, people was dogging Kobe, dog.
[2:19:42] Speaker 1: I want a fact here. I love his opinion. I
[2:19:45] Speaker 1: love the energy.
[2:19:46] Speaker 2: Can you tell me, on record, this is called record,
[2:19:51] Speaker 2: on record, when did Kobe, by the consensus masses, ever
[2:19:59] Speaker 2: was a top five player?
[2:20:02] Speaker 1: Now he's speaking crazy.
[2:20:03] Speaker 3: All right.
[2:20:04] Speaker 2: Because, you know, so in all voting, all voting that's
[2:20:08] Speaker 2: ever been done by the masses, can you please, not
[2:20:13] Speaker 2: our emotional problem, can you tell me when did he ever,
[2:20:18] Speaker 2: his name ever hit or break top five?
[2:20:22] Speaker 1: What year was it, please?
[2:20:24] Speaker 4: I want to say when he died.
[2:20:26] Speaker 1: Hmm? You're looking right now. So this is a factual thing,
[2:20:31] Speaker 1: not our opinion.
[2:20:32] Speaker 4: I know for sure he wasn't top five for a minute.
[2:20:34] Speaker 4: That's a fact. He wasn't in people's top five.
[2:20:36] Speaker 7: In 2020, ESPN put out the top 75 all-time on
[2:20:41] Speaker 7: their list.
[2:20:43] Speaker 1: They had Kobe Bryant number nine. Number nine. Okay. So
[2:20:46] Speaker 1: that was the 2020.
[2:20:47] Speaker 4: We going off of ESPN.
[2:20:50] Speaker 2: I'm not talking about us.
[2:20:53] Speaker 1: I don't want our opinion in it, sir. All right.
[2:20:59] Speaker 1: So if we're going off of ESPN list. That's our
[2:21:01] Speaker 1: new segment.
[2:21:02] Speaker 2: If we're going off of ESPN list, right?
[2:21:07] Speaker 1: If Kobe, by their list, has never.
[2:21:10] Speaker 2: been number two to question number one, they wouldn't have
[2:21:14] Speaker 2: never had the negative narrative on it. Like he said,
[2:21:18] Speaker 2: that's challenging Jordan. Right? So for the most part.
[2:21:22] Speaker 1: 2024, Hoops Hype did a list. They had Kobe number
[2:21:25] Speaker 1: eight all the time. Number eight all the time. Okay.
[2:21:28] Speaker 2: So when Jordan went to number one in 89, 90, 91,
[2:21:32] Speaker 2: no one bashed Kareem for jumping to number two.
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: They just talked about it. Number three, four, five, six, seven.
[2:21:40] Speaker 2: Right? What I'm saying is, if LeBron, by the consensus,
[2:21:46] Speaker 2: has been the only one to challenge Jordan's legacy, then
[2:21:50] Speaker 2: what he is saying is the reason why. If everyone
[2:21:56] Speaker 2: thinks he could be number one, when you say he's
[2:21:59] Speaker 2: number two, you're trying to explain why he's.
[2:22:05] Speaker 1: Not number one.
[2:22:06] Speaker 2: So that means you gotta bash him to make sure
[2:22:10] Speaker 2: he's number two. Instead of just saying, Jordan's number one,
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: he's number two.
[2:22:16] Speaker 3: If he wins, we can't bash him.
[2:22:18] Speaker 7: 2024 Sporting News had Kobe Bryant number 10.
[2:22:21] Speaker 1: If he wins, it'd be nothing to bash. Again. 2024
[2:22:24] Speaker 1: Sporting News did a list.
[2:22:25] Speaker 7: If I could just get this out, Nick. 2024 Sporting
[2:22:29] Speaker 7: News did a list. They had Kobe Bryant 10. 2023
[2:22:32] Speaker 7: Complex did a list. They had Kobe at number five.
[2:22:35] Speaker 1: Damn complex.
[2:22:36] Speaker 3: Why didn't I expect that?
[2:22:39] Speaker 2: So, but that's just, it don't matter what your opinion is,
[2:22:41] Speaker 2: but just, this is a fact.
[2:22:42] Speaker 1: Just read the list, man.
[2:22:43] Speaker 3: Read from 2010. Okay, 2010.
[2:22:46] Speaker 2: Show him where he is in 2010.
[2:22:49] Speaker 3: All I'm just saying, win. Win six rings. It won't
[2:22:51] Speaker 3: be nothing to bash. Why?
[2:22:55] Speaker 4: I think anybody who's not number one, you'll get it.
[2:22:57] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is.
[2:22:59] Speaker 4: There's a negative.
[2:23:00] Speaker 1: Okay, let's try... Let's try.
[2:23:05] Speaker 2: Gold medal, right? The gold medal race, right? Noel Lyles
[2:23:08] Speaker 2: came in first, right?
[2:23:09] Speaker 1: Yep.
[2:23:11] Speaker 2: Someone came in second, right? Did anyone bash him for
[2:23:15] Speaker 2: getting silver? Did anyone talk about why he came in second?
[2:23:19] Speaker 2: Or did they just congratulate him for coming in second place?
[2:23:22] Speaker 4: You don't even know who came in second.
[2:23:24] Speaker 1: Of course.
[2:23:24] Speaker 4: That's not why we're watching the race, though.
[2:23:26] Speaker 1: You want the world to.
[2:23:27] Speaker 2: No, you're not listening, brother. You keep thinking this is a...
[2:23:30] Speaker 2: I'm saying when I ask you for your top five...
[2:23:34] Speaker 2: You know what?
[2:23:34] Speaker 1: Fuck that.
[2:23:35] Speaker 3: Can you tell me your top five favorite cars?
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: I don't got none.
[2:23:39] Speaker 3: Okay, what do you like?
[2:23:41] Speaker 1: I ride bikes. What do you like? What do you like?
[2:23:43] Speaker 4: I got Range Rover, Benz.
[2:23:46] Speaker 1: Why do you like the Range Rover? Because I'm trucking today.
[2:23:49] Speaker 1: Why do you like the Benz?
[2:23:50] Speaker 4: Because it's like, it's just, I just like the Benz.
[2:23:54] Speaker 3: Okay, what's number three?
[2:23:55] Speaker 4: I like the, well, Porsche's one because two-door.
[2:23:58] Speaker 2: Porsche is one?
[2:23:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[2:24:00] Speaker 4: Porsche is one because the two-door and the race car.
[2:24:02] Speaker 1: Okay, number two?
[2:24:03] Speaker 4: The two is the Range Rover because the family. Hold on, man.
[2:24:05] Speaker 1: We're talking here.
[2:24:06] Speaker 2: Number three.
[2:24:06] Speaker 4: And then the Benz is, you know, when I just
[2:24:08] Speaker 4: want my everyday. And then if I had to go
[2:24:12] Speaker 4: an old-school car like a lowrider, and then a 5.0
[2:24:16] Speaker 4: like Ford.
[2:24:17] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:24:18] Speaker 4: Off the shelf.
[2:24:19] Speaker 1: Okay. Can you tell me your top five players?
[2:24:22] Speaker 4: My top five players ever.
[2:24:23] Speaker 2: And then explain.
[2:24:25] Speaker 4: My top five players ever. Steph Curry, winner, greatest shooter ever.
[2:24:31] Speaker 4: I'm going to go Kobe, winner. I'm going to go
[2:24:34] Speaker 4: LeBron James, winner. I'm going to go Tim Duncan, winner.
[2:24:38] Speaker 4: I'm going to go Shaq, winner.
[2:24:42] Speaker 1: But that's me, yes. But you see it. The cars,
[2:24:46] Speaker 1: all positive, right? This is your list. The NBA, you
[2:24:51] Speaker 1: thought about it.
[2:24:53] Speaker 2: You said it, right? You didn't bash anything about.
[2:24:57] Speaker 1: Why they're not.
[2:24:58] Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to explain to this dude
[2:25:00] Speaker 2: over here.
[2:25:00] Speaker 4: For sure. But when we're having a debate about it,
[2:25:04] Speaker 4: everybody's going to talk about why he's not number one, though.
[2:25:06] Speaker 1: So, yes, to you, of course.
[2:25:09] Speaker 4: Of course I'm not going to say anything bad. But
[2:25:10] Speaker 4: if somebody say, yo, well, this is why he's two. Okay, well, yeah,
[2:25:14] Speaker 4: this is why he's two, three, four, five. There's a
[2:25:17] Speaker 4: reason why he's not number one. But they only do it.
[2:25:20] Speaker 2: If you let somebody tell you their top 10 and why,
[2:25:23] Speaker 2: they're going to give you one, right?
[2:25:27] Speaker 1: Let's say Kobe's two. They're going to give you Kobe.
[2:25:28] Speaker 1: If LeBron is three on their list, they're going to
[2:25:30] Speaker 1: tell you not why he's three.
[2:25:33] Speaker 2: They're going to tell you why he's.
[2:25:35] Speaker 1: Not number one. Why?
[2:25:37] Speaker 2: Just tell me why he's three. Then go on to four.
[2:25:40] Speaker 2: No one can do that for some reason. They gotta
[2:25:43] Speaker 2: tell you why he's not number one. Who gives a
[2:25:46] Speaker 2: fuck why he's not number one? You have him at three?
[2:25:49] Speaker 2: Just explain why he's at three and move.
[2:25:50] Speaker 1: The fuck on.
[2:25:51] Speaker 2: You gotta go down why he's not number one. Who
[2:25:54] Speaker 2: gives a fuck why he's not number one? Because you're
[2:25:56] Speaker 2: not telling me why he's not number two? You're just bashing, right?
[2:26:00] Speaker 2: You're just bashing him at three. Like, why are you
[2:26:03] Speaker 2: bashing a nigga at three?
[2:26:04] Speaker 1: Fuck the fuck does that mean?
[2:26:05] Speaker 4: But we're bashing the nigga at two.
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: No, you're not. We're bashing Kobe at two. We are
[2:26:09] Speaker 1: bashing him. Then you act like Jordan, bro. You think
[2:26:12] Speaker 1: you Jordan. You're the only fan. You're the only fan. Dude, dude, dude.
[2:26:16] Speaker 1: Only fans.
[2:26:17] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[2:26:17] Speaker 1: This is the only fan. Come on. He's the only fan.
[2:26:21] Speaker 1: Come on, only fan.
[2:26:22] Speaker 3: The only fan.
[2:26:23] Speaker 1: That just sounds crazy.
[2:26:26] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:26:26] Speaker 1: It sounds crazy when, because that's the truth of what
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: people do. People bash Kobe, too. No, they don't.
[2:26:30] Speaker 4: You can't be number one because you act like Mike.
[2:26:32] Speaker 1: No, you're not. You're bashing the nigga at number three.
[2:26:36] Speaker 2: They bash the nigga at number, wherever you have LeBron,
[2:26:39] Speaker 2: you bash him forward because you're trying to explain why
[2:26:42] Speaker 2: he's not number one for some reason.
[2:26:43] Speaker 4: Well, I mean, LeBron James is considered one of the
[2:26:46] Speaker 4: greatest players ever. If you're considered one of the greatest players.
[2:26:48] Speaker 1: Ever, you're going... Mike, come on, man. So why is
[2:26:50] Speaker 1: Kareem third? I didn't watch Kareem.
[2:26:55] Speaker 4: I asked somebody back then why they had him as three.
[2:26:58] Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't born. When you talk about
[2:27:02] Speaker 1: Kareem or Duncan or something, you just talk the positive, man.
[2:27:05] Speaker 1: You don't say negative. Speaking of asking questions, let's move
[2:27:09] Speaker 1: on to Mostly Fans.
[2:27:10] Speaker 3: Presented by Underdog.
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[2:27:19] Speaker 1: subscriber giveaway. God bless the chat. We appreciate you pulling
[2:27:23] Speaker 1: up every single day. Great to be back in the
[2:27:24] Speaker 1: arena this week after our extended All-Star break. Shout out
[2:27:27] Speaker 1: to Kenyon Wern, Cemetery Larry, Timberwolf Jersey. Shout out Cemetery
[2:27:32] Speaker 1: Larry in the chat watching the show. We'll be back
[2:27:34] Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow, Gil. I'm sure he will have
[2:27:36] Speaker 1: some things to address with you. And shout out to
[2:27:38] Speaker 1: our crew for making sure the... has his chocolate chip
[2:27:41] Speaker 1: cookies in the arena. See, we done said LeBron's name
[2:27:45] Speaker 1: a thousand times. Pat Riley can't take these cookies, LeBron.
[2:27:49] Speaker 1: Next time, get soft batch. If he came over, he'd
[2:27:52] Speaker 1: be like, damn, LeBron, is nothing good enough? So we
[2:27:56] Speaker 1: got a multi-fans question from underdog user Zadarian.
[2:28:00] Speaker 2: What was your turn-up song or turn-up album that would
[2:28:03] Speaker 2: get you hype before a big game?
[2:28:06] Speaker 1: So what was your turn-up song or turn-up album that
[2:28:08] Speaker 1: would get you hype before a big game?
[2:28:13] Speaker 4: I'm going to go Jay-Z, Diamonds Is Forever.
[2:28:15] Speaker 5: Yes, that's a very excellent album. That's what you listen
[2:28:20] Speaker 5: to all by yourself.
[2:28:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, Diamonds Are Forever, yeah. They used to play that
[2:28:24] Speaker 4: in the stadiums.
[2:28:25] Speaker 1: That's a nice song. Diamonds Are Forever. I'm with you.
[2:28:28] Speaker 1: That's what got you hyped for the game?
[2:28:30] Speaker 4: Got me going. Got me in my mood, yeah.
[2:28:32] Speaker 1: I was a Jay-Z fan. Are you sitting on Brandon's selection?
[2:28:37] Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just saying. I mean, you know, just
[2:28:42] Speaker 4: the whole album. Yeah, but I'm starting it from there, though.
[2:28:44] Speaker 1: Okay, so the whole album, but he's starting with that song.
[2:28:46] Speaker 1: I dig it. I'm with you.
[2:28:48] Speaker 4: I used to hear that in the stadiums.
[2:28:49] Speaker 1: I'm with you. No, the whole album rocking. I'm with you.
[2:28:52] Speaker 1: I listen, yeah.
[2:28:53] Speaker 2: The rock.
[2:28:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Just the album itself. Flesh of my flesh, blood
[2:29:00] Speaker 1: of my blood.
[2:29:01] Speaker 4: Motivational album.
[2:29:05] Speaker 2: Huh?
[2:29:05] Speaker 1: Very motivational. Hell yeah.
[2:29:10] Speaker 2: I was a can't see me Tupac in Ambitious as
[2:29:12] Speaker 2: a Rider.
[2:29:17] Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, Kobe.
[2:29:18] Speaker 3: 2-4 on my shirt.
[2:29:22] Speaker 1: I'll be doing work.
[2:29:22] Speaker 3: What year did that come out?
[2:29:23] Speaker 1: What? Last year?
[2:29:26] Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just, I don't know. Wait, no,
[2:29:29] Speaker 2: that's not, what song did you say?
[2:29:31] Speaker 1: Lil Wayne and Kobe. Liar.
[2:29:34] Speaker 2: You forgot I'm in the locker room with you. I'm
[2:29:36] Speaker 2: in the locker room with you.
[2:29:38] Speaker 3: But when it came on, that was one of my songs.
[2:29:41] Speaker 1: Song released in 2009. What is this song? Thank you.
[2:29:44] Speaker 1: Chicken noodle soup. Chicken noodle soup. With a soda on
[2:29:47] Speaker 1: the side.
[2:29:47] Speaker 3: Chicken noodle soup.
[2:29:48] Speaker 1: With a soda on the side. Chicken noodle soup. With
[2:29:52] Speaker 1: a soda. Oh, chicken noodle soup ass. R-O-C, yeah. Nah,
[2:29:55] Speaker 1: that's my nigga LeBron.
[2:29:58] Speaker 4: It would represent us. Throw them diamonds up.
[2:30:01] Speaker 1: All right, well.
[2:30:02] Speaker 2: No, what's so funny is, in the locker room, dawg,
[2:30:04] Speaker 2: if you listen, everybody.
[2:30:06] Speaker 1: Had on some weird... Yeah.
[2:30:07] Speaker 2: Everybody always had on some different shit.
[2:30:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, some different... Like, it'd be weird, like, this is
[2:30:12] Speaker 1: what you get hyped to? That's my nigga LeBron. So
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[2:31:01] Speaker 1: With a soda on the side. I had to find
[2:31:03] Speaker 1: a double soda. I can think of. But he knew
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[2:31:08] Speaker 2: Karan used to do the dance.
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[2:31:56] Speaker 1: so we can get our bread right. Most underrated beat, like,
[2:32:05] Speaker 1: song that, like, when.
[2:32:06] Speaker 2: You think about it, you're gonna be like, yeah, that
[2:32:08] Speaker 2: shit knocked when it hit.
[2:32:09] Speaker 1: They know. Like, right? Like, you'd be like, what? That
[2:32:16] Speaker 1: shit was cracking. Shorty Low. Shorty Low. Yeah, that was
[2:32:20] Speaker 1: one of those.
[2:32:21] Speaker 2: That was one of those songs, like.
[2:32:24] Speaker 1: That shit was.
[2:32:24] Speaker 2: That's the shit right there on a game.
[2:32:26] Speaker 1: People be like, yeah. Well, shout out. That was.
[2:32:30] Speaker 3: Shout out everybody in the chat.
[2:32:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, they play the right song in the warm-up line.
[2:32:32] Speaker 3: I might tell you a ram-o.
[2:32:34] Speaker 2: Woo!
[2:32:34] Speaker 1: I might tell you a ram-o. Hey, hey. Play that
[2:32:37] Speaker 1: little John.
[2:32:38] Speaker 4: He saw it, boys.
[2:32:39] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[2:32:40] Speaker 1: B-I-B-I.
[2:32:40] Speaker 2: Mother could be in the live line all regular and shit.
[2:32:43] Speaker 1: And a search song, come on. Boy, I got four
[2:32:46] Speaker 1: extra inches on the bounce. Yeah!
[2:32:48] Speaker 4: So is the way how that's right.
[2:32:49] Speaker 1: That rope bounce. You! That's you in high school. It is.
[2:32:52] Speaker 1: That rope. That rope bounce. Shout out to Rose Park.
[2:32:56] Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody on this couch. You know, sincerity.
[2:32:58] Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody in the chat. We appreciate you
[2:33:00] Speaker 1: pulling up, supporting the show every day. We're getting so
[2:33:01] Speaker 1: much closer to a million. Gil says he's going to
[2:33:03] Speaker 1: have a party at the crib. Maybe we'll invite some
[2:33:05] Speaker 1: of y'all, put y'all name on the security list. I
[2:33:07] Speaker 1: just got a new grill, too. Uh-oh. Boy, about to
[2:33:09] Speaker 1: fire that thing up. Throw a little something on the grill. Man,
[2:33:12] Speaker 1: I'm like... But this.
[2:33:14] Speaker 3: Stop looking at me.
[2:33:17] Speaker 1: You already know what it's going to be. You already know.
[2:33:20] Speaker 1: I will watch remotely on Zoom. But this has been
[2:33:23] Speaker 1: another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will
[2:33:27] Speaker 1: see y'all tomorrow.

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