# The Warriors' VINTAGE Win IGNITES Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 16 Apr 2026, 2 h 07 min.

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The Golden State Warriors' VINTAGE Win IGNITES Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Steph Curry & Draymond Green turning back the clock to pull off an improbable comeback win over the Los Angeles Clippers in the opening round of the NBA Play In Tournament and break down how the Warriors were able to feel like champions again with Chef Curry cooking and Draymond Green putting Kawhi Leonard in the torture chamber. They also discuss what's next for Kawhi & The Clippers as the Klaw has not been able to make it out of the 1st Round of the NBA Playoffs over the past 5 seasons and give their savage reactions to Chris Paul celebrating the Clippers downfall after his unceremonious dismissal from the team. Next, they react to Tyrese Maxey & Andre Drummond holding it down for the Philadelphia 76ers as they powered their team over the Orlando Magic without their MVP Joel Embiid on the court and debate if this team will be able to hold their own against the Boston Celtics in the next round of the NBA Playoffs. They then react to the NBA ruling in favor of Luka Doncic & Cade Cunningham in their appeals against the league's 65 game minimum rule and debate if the league's leniency will shift any opinions on the controversial rule before reacting to LaMelo Ball being fined for tripping Bam Adebayo in the Hornet's play in game victory, sparking a debate on if the hostile play deserved a bigger punishment. Finally, they react to Brandon Jenning's viral tweet trying to start the conversation on Devin Booker after another disappointing season for the Phoenix Suns and debate if Heat Culture is cooked if the team is unable to land a superstar this offseason, before previewing the final round of the Play-In tournament which tips off tomorrow. PLEASE give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Compete Against The Gil's Arena Crew in Underdog's NBA Playoff Bracket Battle - https://play.underdogfantasy.com/bp-z... Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Compete Against the Gil's Arena Crew in Underdog's NBA Playoff Bracket Challenge - https://play.underdogfantasy.com/bp-z... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:56 Steph & Draymond Turn Back The Clock 0:08:39 Steph Keeps The Warriors Season Alive 0:31:47 Draymond Shuts Down Kawhi 0:42:49 Chris Paul Celebrates The Clippers Demise 1:08:48 Paolo Banchero Was EXPOSED By The 76ers 1:13:54 76ers - Celtics Preview 1:33:43 NBA Waives 65 Game Minimum For Luka & Cade 1:36:15 Play-In Games Preview 2:03:50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: That's why I like it.
[0:02] Speaker 2: I like it. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:08] Speaker 3: Another Thursday here in the arena. Some exciting play in action. Now,
[0:12] Speaker 3: I just want to point out, before the playing started Tuesday,
[0:15] Speaker 3: you guys were not rolling on this couch.
[0:19] Speaker 2: That's saying you guys. Adam Silver gave us some good games.
[0:23] Speaker 1: You know, I still don't like the 10 being in,
[0:26] Speaker 1: even though it was some good games, it was some
[0:27] Speaker 1: really good games.
[0:28] Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. It did what it was supposed to, right?
[0:33] Speaker 1: Even though I can not like the play in 10
[0:36] Speaker 1: being in, but cool. They gave the fans and the
[0:39] Speaker 1: NBA something to.
[0:41] Speaker 2: Adam Silver said, you still gonna watch the... Absolutely. It's
[0:43] Speaker 2: like watching bum fights. Very entertaining. It's entertaining. Very entertaining. Yes, absolutely.
[0:49] Speaker 4: They ain't professionals, but they gonna get down. You gonna
[0:52] Speaker 4: be like, oh, this is good.
[0:55] Speaker 2: I didn't do this.
[0:56] Speaker 5: You remember that back in the day?
[0:58] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Yes. I used to watch Kimbo Slott.
[1:00] Speaker 2: Kimbo Slott. Knocked out crackheads in my spare time. It
[1:04] Speaker 2: was an enjoyable experience. I was hanging.
[1:08] Speaker 4: Usually the best games of anything is the bottoms.
[1:12] Speaker 2: Two bad teams playing one another. It's going to be
[1:16] Speaker 2: good basketball. It's going to be some good basketball.
[1:20] Speaker 3: We got two games to discuss today, but as always,
[1:22] Speaker 3: this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo. I'm
[1:25] Speaker 3: merely a host, Josiah Johnson, and we got NBA legend
[1:28] Speaker 3: and Arc Raiders most wanted Gilbert Arenas back here with us.
[1:34] Speaker 2: What's up? What's up?
[1:36] Speaker 4: No, no, no, because he was saying it yesterday and
[1:39] Speaker 4: nobody answered. So I'm like, I've been asking for it.
[1:41] Speaker 4: They got to ask it for him. I mean, nobody
[1:43] Speaker 4: was answering. He was just by himself there.
[1:47] Speaker 2: I got it. You know what I mean? Skip was like... Skip,
[1:54] Speaker 2: Negro thing. He's 10 minutes, 20 minutes late for that shit. Okay, okay, okay.
[2:05] Speaker 2: Then pay my phone bill. Good things take time. You
[2:08] Speaker 2: got so many toys at home. I was feeling bad.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I'm like, somebody got to say it back. Y'all never
[2:15] Speaker 2: watched the movie? See you next week. We got NBA
[2:19] Speaker 2: champion of the world, Cleveland High School, greatest player.
[2:23] Speaker 3: Of all time, Waggy P, Nick Young, back in the arena.
[2:30] Speaker 2: No drawstring on the shorts. Yeah. Two eggs.
[2:34] Speaker 3: On this side of the couch, we got a distinguished
[2:36] Speaker 3: gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin, back.
[2:39] Speaker 2: Here with us. Hey.
[2:41] Speaker 1: Hey, Nick, you look homeless yesterday, just so you know.
[2:44] Speaker 1: You look like somebody found that shit in the bag. Like,
[2:47] Speaker 1: at the motherfucker, hey, digging through the joint outside the Ralphs.
[2:51] Speaker 2: They digging through the clothes thing. Like, oh, shit, this
[2:53] Speaker 2: is nice. That's it. It's a good fit. Last but
[2:58] Speaker 2: not least. The drop-off, the clothes drop-off.
[3:02] Speaker 3: Representing Tough Crowd and a card-carrying country club member, we
[3:06] Speaker 3: got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Back here with.
[3:12] Speaker 2: You ain't did that in a long time. Tough Crowd University.
[3:15] Speaker 2: Just scream. You ain't crashed out in a minute.
[3:18] Speaker 6: Somebody's legacy is online Friday.
[3:21] Speaker 2: Is he light-skinned?
[3:23] Speaker 5: Of course.
[3:25] Speaker 2: Does he live in the Southwest? We will discuss. We
[3:30] Speaker 2: got a lot to get into. Wait. Talking about Buckham. Huh?
[3:34] Speaker 5: Huh?
[3:34] Speaker 2: Buckham. Oh, no. What now, Gil? What I do now?
[3:38] Speaker 2: You know what? I was... Y'all was... Like, I was
[3:42] Speaker 2: dodging smoke yesterday. Oh, God. I... Didn't I pick Charlotte? Yeah,
[3:48] Speaker 2: all y'all did. Okay, I was just... But I'm not
[3:50] Speaker 2: ducking when I picked the same team. I was the
[3:53] Speaker 2: only one that picked. The other one, yeah. Miami. Miami was...
[3:57] Speaker 2: But we all picked the Suns. Well, he picked Portland. Yeah.
[4:01] Speaker 4: But, oh well.
[4:02] Speaker 2: Oh, the Suns won? On Amazon Prime? Oh, the Suns.
[4:06] Speaker 2: It was the second game we picked.
[4:08] Speaker 1: Oh.
[4:09] Speaker 2: Anywho, we got a lot to discuss. Here's what's cracking
[4:13] Speaker 2: in Gil's arena today. I'm going forward. Yeah, you picked
[4:17] Speaker 2: two yesterday, too.
[4:19] Speaker 5: I picked Orlando and I picked fucking Clippers yesterday.
[4:25] Speaker 2: Officer, you went against the boys? I didn't know Steph
[4:29] Speaker 2: was playing like that. Philly over.
[4:32] Speaker 5: I thought they was tanking for like a.
[4:34] Speaker 2: No, you thought Philly was... You thought Atlanta was going
[4:37] Speaker 2: to be Philly? Yes. Yes. Orlando was supposed to be
[4:40] Speaker 2: a top four team. They weren't going to beat them
[4:42] Speaker 2: at home. But think about it. Coming in, where Orlando
[4:44] Speaker 2: was supposed to be at? Top five. Yeah, they should
[4:46] Speaker 2: have won. I know for sure. But where are they
[4:48] Speaker 2: at now, Swaggy? Where are they at now?
[4:50] Speaker 1: I knew they wasn't going to win.
[4:51] Speaker 2: They got Bane. Players don't like that. I knew they
[4:55] Speaker 2: wasn't going to win that game. Low-budget Derrick White. The
[4:57] Speaker 2: star player in Jamal Mosley. The low-budget Derrick White. Ball head.
[5:00] Speaker 2: That's his name. Jalen Suggs. People like Derrick White. Low-budget
[5:04] Speaker 2: Derrick White. Can I?
[5:06] Speaker 3: We got a lot to discuss. Here's what's cracking at
[5:08] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena today. Warriors overcame a 13-point fourth quarter deficit
[5:12] Speaker 3: to end the Clippers season. What does this win really
[5:16] Speaker 3: mean for the Dubs? Steve Kerr seems to think it
[5:18] Speaker 3: meant a lot. Maybe the greatest 37-win team in NBA history.
[5:22] Speaker 3: The NBA ruled in favor of Luka and Cade being
[5:25] Speaker 3: eligible for postseason awards. Despite both coming short of the
[5:30] Speaker 3: 65-game minimum, did the league get it right?
[5:32] Speaker 2: Yes.
[5:33] Speaker 3: You may not be able to see the smoke, ladies
[5:34] Speaker 3: and gentlemen, but We're on the watch now. You may
[5:38] Speaker 3: see the smoke. I think we all agree that they did.
[5:41] Speaker 3: And the Sixers snatch the 7th seed with a win
[5:43] Speaker 3: over the Magic without Joel Embiid. Does Philly have any
[5:47] Speaker 3: shot against Boston without their former MVP? But before we
[5:51] Speaker 3: get into all that, this episode is brought to.
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[6:35] Speaker 3: you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube,
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[6:39] Speaker 3: get your podcasts. So night two of the plan featured
[6:43] Speaker 3: Steph Curry and the Warriors pulling up to Los Angeles
[6:46] Speaker 3: to take on Kawhi and the Clippers with the winner
[6:48] Speaker 3: advancing for a chance to face Phoenix. For the eighth
[6:51] Speaker 3: seed and the loser getting a one-way ticket to Cancun,
[6:54] Speaker 3: Clippers became the first team in league history to start
[6:56] Speaker 3: 6-21 and finish the season-winning record, while the Warriors ended
[7:00] Speaker 3: their matchup having lost seven of their last eight games,
[7:03] Speaker 3: with Steph Curry playing four of the last five regular
[7:05] Speaker 3: season games after missing 27 straight, dealing with runner's knee.
[7:09] Speaker 3: Before the game, Steve Kerr said his squad didn't have
[7:12] Speaker 3: momentum on their side, but they had experience, and that
[7:15] Speaker 3: experience came through when they needed it most. Clippers were
[7:17] Speaker 3: in control for most of the game as the Warriors
[7:19] Speaker 3: trail by as much as 13 points in the fourth quarter.
[7:22] Speaker 3: We pick up the action in the final frame.
[7:25] Speaker 1: And what was one of an amazing comeback.
[7:29] Speaker 3: So Guy Santos and Steph Curry hit back-to-back threes to
[7:33] Speaker 3: cut the deficit to seven. Then Christoph Porzingis followed that
[7:38] Speaker 3: up with six straight points to close the gap to
[7:40] Speaker 3: three points. The unicorn lane jump a little bit over
[7:45] Speaker 3: eight minutes remaining.
[7:46] Speaker 2: Later in the quarter.
[7:47] Speaker 3: Darius Garland knocked down a three to put the Clippers
[7:50] Speaker 3: back up by nine, but then Al Horford went nuclear,
[7:54] Speaker 3: going four for four from long range.
[7:56] Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter. Timely shots like this.
[8:00] Speaker 3: Horford's last three in this series, giving the Dubs their
[8:05] Speaker 3: first lead since the second quarter.
[8:08] Speaker 2: I know Black. I know Black.
[8:10] Speaker 3: So Brooke Lopez hit a pair of free throws to
[8:14] Speaker 3: tie the game back up, and then Wardell Stephen Curry
[8:17] Speaker 3: Knocked down a huge three with under a minute remaining
[8:20] Speaker 3: to put the Warriors up three. Draymond Green stole the
[8:22] Speaker 3: inbound pass, tipped it to Brandon Budzinski who got fouled
[8:26] Speaker 3: and got the goaltend. And then Kawhi trying to keep
[8:31] Speaker 3: the Clippers in the game. Draymond comes up with the
[8:34] Speaker 3: big steal. Steph got fouled. And one of two free
[8:41] Speaker 3: throws to help seal the win for the Golden State Warriors.
[8:47] Speaker 3: After scoring just eight points in the first half, Steph
[8:49] Speaker 3: finished with 35 points in the game, going seven for
[8:51] Speaker 3: 12 from three. Santos and Kristaps Porzingis both had 20.
[8:55] Speaker 3: Pods had 17 and seven boards. Draymond Green delivered a
[8:59] Speaker 3: vintage defensive performance, finishing with 7.6 rebounds, nine assists, and
[9:02] Speaker 3: four steals, locking up Kawhi in the fourth quarter. Warriors
[9:06] Speaker 3: went 15 for 20 in the fourth, including eight threes,
[9:09] Speaker 3: and got their first win at Intuit Dome. Dubs will
[9:12] Speaker 3: now face the Suns Friday in Phoenix. or a chance
[9:15] Speaker 3: at the A.C. So after the game, Steve Kerr had
[9:18] Speaker 3: this to say about his team and their chef.
[9:21] Speaker 7: With all the wins we've ever had here, a lot
[9:24] Speaker 7: of them with a lot more at stake, this is
[9:27] Speaker 7: right up there.
[9:29] Speaker 2: Just because of where.
[9:31] Speaker 8: We are and our age and the decline of our
[9:36] Speaker 8: performance this year, the injuries, it was just a display of,
[9:41] Speaker 8: just a beautiful display of competitive will and this is
[9:46] Speaker 8: why Steph came back so everybody out there who thought
[9:50] Speaker 8: Steph should have taken the rest.
[9:51] Speaker 2: Of the year off.
[9:54] Speaker 7: This is what he does this is who he is
[9:58] Speaker 7: if he can compete he's going to compete and it was.
[10:00] Speaker 2: Just incredible to watch. For one night, you know, we're us.
[10:08] Speaker 7: We're champions again, you know, and I know that may
[10:10] Speaker 7: sound crazy to everybody out there.
[10:12] Speaker 2: It's a play-in game. I don't care. It's just absolutely
[10:15] Speaker 2: beautiful to watch. Back down memory lane.
[10:19] Speaker 1: Gil, biggest takeaways from the Warriors win over the Clippers?
[10:24] Speaker 2: They pushing it. They pushing it. They pushing it. I
[10:32] Speaker 2: get it. I understand that you want to go out
[10:35] Speaker 2: there and don't look like you're tanking. I get it.
[10:40] Speaker 4: But reality is reality. You don't have Jimmy Butler. the
[10:52] Speaker 4: chances of you beating OKC and winning a championship is zero.
[11:00] Speaker 4: Slim to none. So you're pushing it. I mean, you
[11:04] Speaker 4: got one more game. You got one more game to.
[11:09] Speaker 2: Get the lottery. Right? Ninth spot, the chance of getting
[11:16] Speaker 2: number one. Mm.
[11:18] Speaker 4: The eighth spot, the best you can get is 15.
[11:23] Speaker 2: Right? In the loaded draft. So I'm just talking on
[11:28] Speaker 2: the business side of it. Right?
[11:30] Speaker 4: Where you are, where reality is.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Right?
[11:35] Speaker 2: I said this about Dallas. People thought I was stupid.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Right?
[11:38] Speaker 2: Why are you jeopardizing.
[11:41] Speaker 4: Bringing Anthony Davis back and he's going to win games
[11:46] Speaker 4: and you guys– make the playoffs and lose this horrible
[11:52] Speaker 4: season you had. And they didn't make it, got the
[11:57] Speaker 4: number one pick. So let's not pretend that that's not
[12:02] Speaker 4: a real thing. So, you know, Clippers, unfortunately, right, all
[12:10] Speaker 4: the bad they did this year is going to be
[12:13] Speaker 4: rewarded to someone else. So it goes to say it
[12:17] Speaker 4: goes to it gets rewarded to a whole nother franchise. So, listen,
[12:22] Speaker 4: watching these games is amazing. Watching guys compete is amazing. But,
[12:26] Speaker 4: you know, I know deep down inside what business of
[12:29] Speaker 4: basketball is. And it shows this ugly tale every single time.
[12:35] Speaker 4: So Steph and the boys competing was just amazing to see.
[12:40] Speaker 2: But, you know.
[12:42] Speaker 4: So sometimes when you win, you really lose. Yeah, you
[12:45] Speaker 4: need your legacy to carry on. And the only way
[12:47] Speaker 4: it's going to carry on is tomorrow.
[12:52] Speaker 2: What is it today?
[12:54] Speaker 1: Tomorrow?
[12:54] Speaker 2: Ain't no games today? Friday. Friday, no. Tomorrow, man. No
[12:58] Speaker 2: games today? No. No? Friday. Tuesday, Wednesday, and then they
[13:03] Speaker 2: both play Friday. Oh, they cheating. It was a good game, though.
[13:06] Speaker 2: I mean, I thought once it got to 13, it was,
[13:08] Speaker 2: you know, or 30. You know, but... You know, Clippers
[13:11] Speaker 2: look like they had the same thing in mind, but opposite.
[13:18] Speaker 2: Same thing in mind, but opposite. Same thing in mind. Like, oh, shit,
[13:22] Speaker 2: we don't get that pick. God damn it. Can we
[13:25] Speaker 2: get the two minutes back? Swag, let's move on. Your
[13:30] Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from the Warriors win.
[13:33] Speaker 5: Man, greatness. Steph, Draymond, championship DNA. see Draymond does what
[13:44] Speaker 5: it takes he don't score but his impact on winning
[13:48] Speaker 5: is crazy what he did to Kawhi in that fourth
[13:52] Speaker 5: quarter damn near the whole game like for somebody to
[13:57] Speaker 5: sacrifice scoring and everything their game plan is we gonna
[14:02] Speaker 5: let this guy be the star Steph be the star
[14:05] Speaker 5: and I do everything else and Steph going out there
[14:08] Speaker 5: delivering showing why he's if not the number one best
[14:12] Speaker 5: point guard, number two in some people's eyes. And you
[14:17] Speaker 5: can't count them out. I think with that team there,
[14:21] Speaker 5: if Jimmy was here, they'd be tough. They'd be tough
[14:24] Speaker 5: to beat just because they got championship experience all around
[14:29] Speaker 5: from Horford to Przingis, Steph, the coach, and they know
[14:35] Speaker 5: what it takes. And they know when they're never out
[14:37] Speaker 5: the game. Like you got Tyronn Lue doing this.
[14:41] Speaker 2: I had a.
[14:42] Speaker 5: Dream speech to his team. We just got to win this.
[14:46] Speaker 5: But you got Lopez out there in the pick and
[14:49] Speaker 5: roll with Steph Curry. You're not going to win like that.
[14:52] Speaker 2: The white man.
[14:53] Speaker 5: Did kill Martin Luther King. Steph was the half white man.
[14:58] Speaker 5: That shit got to stop. That's what I'm saying. Cool.
[15:07] Speaker 2: You was on the road. I was. You was on
[15:10] Speaker 2: the road. I did.
[15:11] Speaker 1: And you just veered left.
[15:12] Speaker 2: You just couldn't help yourself. You was cooking.
[15:14] Speaker 1: But it was.
[15:15] Speaker 2: You brought up the thing that we didn't think about.
[15:17] Speaker 2: I had a dream speech all year. You just got
[15:19] Speaker 2: to win 30. 35 and 20. Go 35 and 20.
[15:20] Speaker 2: Giving hope. Then this, the white man. They went 36-20.
[15:26] Speaker 2: The half-white man took them out. He just couldn't help himself, Gil.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Ty Lue said, I have a dream that we can
[15:32] Speaker 3: go 35-20 and finish the season 500. The team went 36.
[15:36] Speaker 2: See?
[15:36] Speaker 5: And they got their ass. They fell apart towards the end.
[15:41] Speaker 5: I thought they would have had that seventh spot on lock.
[15:45] Speaker 5: I thought they would have been playing the Spurs and
[15:48] Speaker 5: it could have been a good game.
[15:50] Speaker 2: They out the tournament this They are.
[15:53] Speaker 5: After all that, Kawhi playing the best he ever played
[15:59] Speaker 5: as a Clipper to me.
[16:01] Speaker 2: He out the tournament. He ain't in the playoffs. It's crazy.
[16:03] Speaker 5: He was playing hot potato. Garland didn't know what to
[16:07] Speaker 5: do at the end. Matherin throwing the ball around. Kawhi
[16:12] Speaker 5: getting stuck and just passing that shit.
[16:15] Speaker 2: It was like, somebody take over, please. And nobody took over.
[16:19] Speaker 2: They was putting two on his ass. Putting two on Kawhi,
[16:22] Speaker 2: maybe he'll get off there. It was like, it's your turn, try. Guarding,
[16:25] Speaker 2: dribbling an hour. Your turn, try. I was wondering why
[16:29] Speaker 2: he ain't coaching, man.
[16:33] Speaker 3: Kawhi, two points in the fourth quarter, but let's shift
[16:34] Speaker 3: it this side of the cup. What are your biggest
[16:40] Speaker 3: takeaways from the Warriors' thrilling play-in victory over the Los
[16:47] Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers?
[16:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you can't, yeah, look, to Steve Kerr's point, right,
[16:54] Speaker 1: if Steph can go out there and be half of himself,
[16:57] Speaker 1: he's a problem, right? Yeah, and if he gets it going,
[17:02] Speaker 1: good luck, right? So, yeah, no, man, they believe, and
[17:07] Speaker 1: to Nick's point, which I didn't think about, that Porzingis
[17:11] Speaker 1: and Al Horford, they do have rings, you know what
[17:14] Speaker 1: I'm saying? So, they've been there, they've been on the
[17:16] Speaker 1: biggest stage, they've played on the biggest stage before, so
[17:19] Speaker 1: you add You got four champions on the floor at once.
[17:23] Speaker 1: They understand how to play basketball. It goes a long
[17:26] Speaker 1: way in big time situations, pressure situations. That's what their
[17:32] Speaker 1: play-in game was. Don't know what's going to happen in
[17:35] Speaker 1: the next one, but that was the one. The most
[17:39] Speaker 1: important one was that one. They showed up and Draymond
[17:45] Speaker 1: does what Draymond does. When games are on the line,
[17:46] Speaker 1: when it's time to win, man, he affects winning. To
[17:49] Speaker 1: Nick's point, he affects winning. Taking the challenge to a
[17:55] Speaker 1: lot of young guys out there. He was hampered a
[17:58] Speaker 1: little bit late.
[17:59] Speaker 2: Didn't matter. It's situation over injury, right?
[18:05] Speaker 1: Whatever the ailment was at the time, the situation is
[18:08] Speaker 1: bigger than that. I can deal with it after the game.
[18:11] Speaker 1: So that's the heart of a champion. They're playing for
[18:14] Speaker 1: a chance to get the A.C., Ken. Yeah, that's what
[18:17] Speaker 1: I'm saying. They are, but to Gil's point, to what detriment, right?
[18:23] Speaker 1: To what detriment? Are we really, just to say we
[18:27] Speaker 1: got in the playoffs again, is that worth your future?
[18:31] Speaker 1: Because that's what this next game is, right? You're playing
[18:35] Speaker 1: to try to find help for Steph.
[18:37] Speaker 2: So, let's see how it goes.
[18:42] Speaker 1: But no, they did what they had to do. Showed
[18:45] Speaker 1: up and for the Clippers, what's next, right? Don't get
[18:50] Speaker 1: your lottery pick. Damn. Yeah, you made changes this year
[18:56] Speaker 1: for the, it was supposed to have been for now.
[18:59] Speaker 1: I don't know what's next, but what's next for T.
[19:05] Speaker 1: Lou in this situation, right? Did he coach his last
[19:09] Speaker 1: job at the Clippers? So it was a lot to
[19:10] Speaker 1: take away from the game, but Shout out to the
[19:13] Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors for showing up when they needed to
[19:16] Speaker 1: and moving on, man.
[19:17] Speaker 3: So we got another day to fight. So we'll see.
[19:20] Speaker 3: Let's shift over to you, Mr. B. Watching that game,
[19:24] Speaker 3: obviously you've been a big supporter of 30 for a
[19:28] Speaker 3: very long time. But seeing what Steph and the Warriors
[19:30] Speaker 3: were able to do, coming to the end to a dump,
[19:31] Speaker 3: getting their first win in Steve Ballmer's building.
[19:36] Speaker 1: I mean, it just amazes me.
[19:37] Speaker 6: Me and Ken was talking about how, like, they still
[19:39] Speaker 6: just let Steph Curry just get the ball. I do
[19:43] Speaker 6: have one leg last night. Santos, Al Horford, Przingis. I mean,
[19:50] Speaker 6: I think it was just a great all-around game for them.
[19:54] Speaker 6: I know we were talking about them getting to the
[19:56] Speaker 6: playoffs and having that draft pick, but I think it's
[20:00] Speaker 6: hard for them to turn off that switch when you've
[20:02] Speaker 6: been a champion for so long. I understand that, yes,
[20:05] Speaker 6: you do want a draft pick in this, but I mean...
[20:08] Speaker 6: You know, you still got, like you said, championship experience.
[20:11] Speaker 6: You got guys who've been there before. I'm not saying
[20:12] Speaker 6: they're going to be OKC, but it's just still, you know,
[20:17] Speaker 6: you got Steph Curry, you got these.
[20:18] Speaker 1: NBA champions, and you guys are back in the lottery.
[20:20] Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if that's going to sit
[20:21] Speaker 6: well with them as an organization when you can actually
[20:24] Speaker 6: go get somebody in the offseason.
[20:27] Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler still in his, what, last year.
[20:31] Speaker 6: You know, I mean, somebody would have to go, but,
[20:33] Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't see them just giving up.
[20:36] Speaker 1: Because that's just not who their DNA is.
[20:38] Speaker 6: And I just think that would just, I don't know,
[20:41] Speaker 6: I think it would just tear the organization down a
[20:43] Speaker 6: little bit. Like, you know, we're champions, so, like, we
[20:46] Speaker 6: stand on winning. Regardless of, you know, they're not scared
[20:48] Speaker 6: of OKC. I mean, you know, you still got Steph Curry.
[20:50] Speaker 6: I'm not saying you're going to, you know, win the series,
[20:52] Speaker 6: but you can win a game or two. But it's still,
[20:54] Speaker 6: you still got other guys who haven't had that experience.
[20:58] Speaker 6: That's part of the future. So, I don't know.
[21:02] Speaker 1: You know, I'm rolling with them trying to win.
[21:05] Speaker 2: They could get like a LeBron in the offseason.
[21:08] Speaker 3: So we've been talking about the Warriors are trying to
[21:09] Speaker 3: make a big move in the offseason, obviously. We know
[21:12] Speaker 3: Giannis is unhappy in Milwaukee. I think they were one
[21:14] Speaker 3: of the teams that tried to acquire him. So to
[21:16] Speaker 3: go back to your point, a lottery pick would be mighty,
[21:20] Speaker 3: mighty interesting.
[21:21] Speaker 2: In this draft, though?
[21:21] Speaker 5: 15 is a good pick too, shit.
[21:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. So it's 10. Yeah. 10 a lot better.
[21:31] Speaker 4: Or like Dallas, number one.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Dallas had less of a percent of chance to get
[21:36] Speaker 1: the fucking first pick.
[21:38] Speaker 4: The worst pick, if you're out of the lottery, if
[21:42] Speaker 4: they lose, the worst pick they get is 14. Meaning,
[21:48] Speaker 4: anything in from first to 10, they're going to have
[21:52] Speaker 4: an actual nice player they can use.
[21:56] Speaker 2: Acuff, Wheeler, right? Boozer, right? And Jimmy Butler comes back.
[22:01] Speaker 4: The best pick they can get if they win, the
[22:03] Speaker 4: best they can get will be 15.
[22:05] Speaker 6: Steve Kerr don't even like playing young guys.
[22:09] Speaker 2: So why even go back to the draft when you
[22:11] Speaker 2: don't even.
[22:12] Speaker 3: Because you can take that young guy and you can.
[22:14] Speaker 4: Package him up.
[22:17] Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, but what I'm saying is you had Kaminga,
[22:20] Speaker 9: we just seen how that went.
[22:21] Speaker 2: So like making a trade... if you're, if you're, uh,
[22:25] Speaker 2: let's say Bucks, right? You're going to have a top
[22:27] Speaker 2: pick too, right?
[22:29] Speaker 4: So let's say Golden State loses and Bucks get two,
[22:35] Speaker 4: Golden State gets three, right? And you end up getting AJ.
[22:41] Speaker 2: And Caleb, right?
[22:43] Speaker 4: So you got a three and a five. You don't
[22:45] Speaker 4: think bucks want to deal with you now hell yeah
[22:49] Speaker 4: because now now i can get your pick now i
[22:52] Speaker 4: got a four and a five future this is my
[22:56] Speaker 4: future now or three and a five right so the
[23:01] Speaker 4: draft picks are if you're trying to make a trade
[23:04] Speaker 4: they are very important but i'm saying you you've already
[23:09] Speaker 4: did the work right so going and proving yourself your
[23:13] Speaker 4: champions and stuff like this i get the ego part
[23:15] Speaker 4: but The business is the business, and Steph is getting older, right?
[23:19] Speaker 4: You got the kid from Illinois, right? You get a 5'6.
[23:23] Speaker 4: You can pick him. Let Curry mentor him for a
[23:27] Speaker 4: couple years. Maybe they might be great at the 1-2.
[23:30] Speaker 4: Same type of guy. Maybe he and A-Cup. They won't know.
[23:34] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is there's so much talent that's walking
[23:37] Speaker 4: through from 1 to 14 that you want a lottery pick.
[23:42] Speaker 4: You do want a lottery pick in this. 15-15, that's
[23:46] Speaker 4: the best you can get. But you can get the
[23:48] Speaker 4: kid from USC at 15. That's the best you can get.
[23:51] Speaker 2: You can get the kid from USC. That is the
[23:53] Speaker 2: best pick. That is like nine. That's what I'm saying.
[23:58] Speaker 4: Nine is the number one pick for the lottery.
[24:02] Speaker 2: I mean for out of the lottery. You know what
[24:04] Speaker 2: I mean? That's the number one pick. That's the best
[24:06] Speaker 2: you can get out of the Western Am. This draft
[24:09] Speaker 2: is loaded. This is a loaded draft, though. That's what
[24:13] Speaker 2: I'm saying.
[24:14] Speaker 4: It's so loaded that I have to just have bad
[24:16] Speaker 4: luck to get to 14.
[24:17] Speaker 2: That's like Kobe coming in at 16. That's what I'm saying.
[24:21] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Kobe coming in at 16.
[24:23] Speaker 9: I just don't think it's in the Warriors' DNA.
[24:25] Speaker 1: It's Luke.
[24:27] Speaker 3: But sometimes when you lose, you really win, Mr. B,
[24:30] Speaker 3: if you're looking for long-term success. Because if you get
[24:32] Speaker 3: that AFC, you're going to get your ass busted by
[24:34] Speaker 3: the Thunder anyway.
[24:35] Speaker 2: Think about that. I'm just saying. Like, I get B's point. Like,
[24:40] Speaker 2: it's hard. They can't turn it over. They're going to
[24:42] Speaker 2: go out and compete.
[24:43] Speaker 1: Like, just tanking. They're going to go out. Steph and Draymond,
[24:46] Speaker 1: they're going to go out and play, right?
[24:48] Speaker 2: They're going to compete.
[24:49] Speaker 1: All right.
[24:49] Speaker 2: That's just what it is. Everybody's hurt but Steph. It
[24:51] Speaker 2: ain't just Steph.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, you're just going to have to.
[24:53] Speaker 2: Phoenix is going to have to beat them. Yeah. That's all.
[24:55] Speaker 4: What is Phoenix thinking, too? This is about to beat.
[24:58] Speaker 4: This might be like 95-90-105. Like, one of those games
[25:03] Speaker 4: where both trying to do the same thing.
[25:05] Speaker 2: Both want a lottery pick. I need a big, too.
[25:08] Speaker 4: Both won a lottery pick. So, you know what I mean? Like,
[25:12] Speaker 4: you don't think Phoenix is thinking the same thing? Like,
[25:14] Speaker 4: we got these pieces, we got this piece. Shit, we
[25:16] Speaker 4: get one of these bigs, we can get a top five,
[25:18] Speaker 4: we can get a big, like, everyone, they're all thinking
[25:20] Speaker 4: the same thing.
[25:22] Speaker 5: Man, if they get a lottery, they might as well
[25:26] Speaker 5: trade book or shit.
[25:28] Speaker 1: I mean, who's the point guard over there?
[25:31] Speaker 2: Who's the point guard over there? Jimmy Butler in their pick? No,
[25:33] Speaker 2: who's the point guard in Phoenix right now?
[25:35] Speaker 1: Uh, Jalen Green.
[25:39] Speaker 4: Now, how many top five point guards is in this
[25:43] Speaker 4: draft that they could possibly use?
[25:46] Speaker 2: A-Cup.
[25:48] Speaker 5: Illinois kid.
[25:50] Speaker 4: You got McHale Brown. It's one of them where upper
[25:54] Speaker 4: management and the players are going to be on two
[25:56] Speaker 4: different spectrums.
[25:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't tell them not to go out.
[26:03] Speaker 4: Well, you can.
[26:04] Speaker 2: You can. I know one team that looked like they
[26:08] Speaker 2: did it. Where's that team located, Gil? Not Orlando. The
[26:17] Speaker 2: other one.
[26:17] Speaker 4: The one with all the shine. Yeah, it did look
[26:19] Speaker 4: like You look like you buddy come back in your
[26:33] Speaker 4: ass in the back get your asses I was thinking
[26:34] Speaker 4: it's like season-online you don't.
[26:36] Speaker 1: Even try to come back and play right yeah, I
[26:37] Speaker 1: thought it but hey I.
[26:46] Speaker 2: We watched him get fouled.
[26:50] Speaker 4: We watched him get his ass clotheslined this morning.
[26:56] Speaker 2: We seen him get clotheslined, body slid.
[26:59] Speaker 5: That hurt. This leg was in the air.
[27:04] Speaker 4: You know who that coach.
[27:06] Speaker 2: Is, brother? It's the Godfather over there. For sure.
[27:10] Speaker 5: What happened to Norman Powell?
[27:13] Speaker 2: He and the team that scored came off the bench. Uh-huh.
[27:17] Speaker 2: Came off the bench, right? My all-star.
[27:20] Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened? Nobody's paying attention.
[27:23] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Nobody's paying attention to the reality
[27:26] Speaker 2: that's out there. I was saying the same thing. My
[27:31] Speaker 2: best player, best scorer, all-star come off the bench.
[27:34] Speaker 4: Mr.
[27:34] Speaker 2: 83 hit his booty Go in the back. Now he
[27:41] Speaker 2: can't walk no more. He walked to the.
[27:43] Speaker 1: He walked there. We saw him walk.
[27:46] Speaker 2: He's going to walk over.
[27:47] Speaker 1: He's going to limp back.
[27:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. We get it. Okay. Now y'all get a
[27:52] Speaker 2: lottery pick. Smart move.
[27:55] Speaker 1: Because they know they can't get players to come.
[27:58] Speaker 2: And I can tell you this. What is Miami? A
[28:02] Speaker 2: big city. Right?
[28:04] Speaker 4: So you're talking about... You're talking about I'm just going
[28:10] Speaker 4: to put it. They will get a top three pick.
[28:17] Speaker 2: Gil Stradamus. They will get a top three pick. I
[28:22] Speaker 2: hate that you think. You just think you know everything.
[28:26] Speaker 5: I hate you think you know everything.
[28:28] Speaker 2: You pointed out. Why would the best player come off
[28:29] Speaker 2: the bench? I was thinking that, though. Okay, all right.
[28:32] Speaker 1: Now, for real, I was like.
[28:34] Speaker 2: How about this?
[28:34] Speaker 1: If Steph come off the bench the next game, what
[28:36] Speaker 1: you going to be thinking? I thought he was hurt.
[28:38] Speaker 1: I thought he was hurt.
[28:39] Speaker 2: No, I really thought he was hurt. Then he subbed in.
[28:41] Speaker 2: I said, oh, shit.
[28:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he wasn't playing. No, I thought he
[28:44] Speaker 1: was hurt.
[28:44] Speaker 2: It wasn't playing.
[28:46] Speaker 1: Come on, get kicked out early.
[28:49] Speaker 2: Where does Boozer live? Phoenix, right? Uh-uh. Miami. He do
[28:55] Speaker 2: live in Miami. Okay, where them Boozer boys live? He
[28:57] Speaker 2: do live in Miami.
[28:58] Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah. Y'all better stop playing with the business of basketball.
[29:04] Speaker 2: But you messing it up, though. No, we ain't. We
[29:07] Speaker 2: got to keep these numbers running. 84, 86% increase in viewership.
[29:12] Speaker 5: It's hard to keep the nine. What are they going
[29:14] Speaker 5: to do? The ball just bounce right here.
[29:16] Speaker 2: 1.4% chance.
[29:16] Speaker 1: What do you know?
[29:17] Speaker 2: Come on. We're not implying anything though. Adam Silver. So 1.4% chance.
[29:34] Speaker 2: What do you know?
[29:34] Speaker 3: Come on, man. We're not implying anything, though, Adam Silver.
[29:40] Speaker 3: Please keep going. But let's talk a little bit about Steph,
[29:42] Speaker 3: a little bit more. It's a tough year for Steph.
[29:45] Speaker 3: Sat out from February to early April while dealing with
[29:47] Speaker 3: runner's knee. Played just 43 games this season. Became a
[29:51] Speaker 3: big in this one to keep the Warriors season alive.
[29:53] Speaker 3: 35 points in 36 minutes of action. There were initial
[29:57] Speaker 3: reports Steve Kerr planned to have him on a minutes restriction.
[29:59] Speaker 3: 36 minutes was the most he's played since Christmas week.
[30:04] Speaker 3: And he did it rocking a pair of Kobe 4s.
[30:05] Speaker 3: Extremely impressive. I know we don't believe in statement games,
[30:09] Speaker 3: but this is Adam Silver's playing, Gil. What statement did
[30:12] Speaker 3: Steph Curry make with his dominant performance?
[30:15] Speaker 4: Listen, Steph is on the same thought processes.
[30:20] Speaker 2: LeBron James.
[30:23] Speaker 4: You know, they're both.
[30:24] Speaker 2: Fighting for the top spot in their positions.
[30:32] Speaker 4: When you're fighting for something, you really want the consensus
[30:36] Speaker 4: to say you are the best ever. These guys don't
[30:41] Speaker 4: want to leave no doubt.
[30:44] Speaker 2: Steph is in the same situation.
[30:46] Speaker 4: Where you got people who are Magic Johnson fans that's like, no,
[30:50] Speaker 4: Magic's still number one. You got the youth that's saying
[30:52] Speaker 4: Kirby's number one. Steph is going to come out every
[30:56] Speaker 4: single night. from when he came into the league to now,
[31:00] Speaker 4: every game he can play and do what he do,
[31:02] Speaker 4: he's going to do it. He needs to finish leaving
[31:04] Speaker 4: his legacy, right? You're already here at two fighting for one.
[31:11] Speaker 2: I'm not stopping now. I'm going to keep going. And,
[31:13] Speaker 2: you know, so.
[31:16] Speaker 4: He's going to, you know, the older he gets, the
[31:18] Speaker 4: more in shape he's going to have to be just
[31:20] Speaker 4: to keep doing what he, you know, he's previously been doing.
[31:23] Speaker 2: So, you know, Steph is going to always go out
[31:26] Speaker 2: there and be brilliant.
[31:28] Speaker 3: So, Mr. B, when you see what Steph did out there,
[31:31] Speaker 3: 35 points, 36 minutes, had said initially he thought he
[31:34] Speaker 3: was going to be out a couple days with the
[31:35] Speaker 3: knee issue, ended up missing 27 games. Like I said,
[31:38] Speaker 3: came back and played four of the last five. But
[31:40] Speaker 3: the Warriors entered this matchup losing seven of their last
[31:42] Speaker 3: eight games.
[31:44] Speaker 2: 37 wins.
[31:45] Speaker 3: Not a ton to play for, but Steph came into
[31:47] Speaker 3: a dome, put on a show.
[31:50] Speaker 6: No, I mean, just to Gil's point, I mean, they're
[31:52] Speaker 6: fighting for something. So that's why I see them making
[31:54] Speaker 6: the playoffs. That's why I see– Steph wanting to have
[31:57] Speaker 6: that matchup. I mean, the other person that he's being
[32:01] Speaker 6: compared to, LeBron James, he's in.
[32:02] Speaker 1: The playoffs this year.
[32:03] Speaker 6: So to be at home and not even being able
[32:06] Speaker 6: to still be able to play and have those big moments,
[32:08] Speaker 6: those big games, and just let the dice roll how
[32:11] Speaker 6: it goes, you know, that's part of why I think
[32:15] Speaker 6: the Warriors are trying to get to the playoffs and everything. Because,
[32:18] Speaker 6: like you said, they're fighting. They're fighting for their legacy.
[32:20] Speaker 6: They're fighting for, you know, for people to know that,
[32:23] Speaker 6: you know, they are the greatest.
[32:24] Speaker 2: So.
[32:26] Speaker 6: You know, the dude was out there on one leg, man,
[32:28] Speaker 6: like hamstring. So, you know, you see it. It's right
[32:31] Speaker 6: there in your face.
[32:34] Speaker 3: When you see Steph out there, 38 years old, light-skinned
[32:38] Speaker 3: and excellent, 35 points, and the Clippers down.
[32:45] Speaker 1: I just, man, testament to hard work, believing in his craft,
[32:51] Speaker 1: and not deviating from– from the process, right? Yeah, no,
[32:59] Speaker 1: he is, if you love basketball, you love to watch
[33:04] Speaker 1: Steph compete, right? Because he is going to do that,
[33:07] Speaker 1: to Gil's point. He is going to go out and compete.
[33:13] Speaker 1: And it's been a pleasure to watch night in, night
[33:16] Speaker 1: out when he takes the floor because it's that. It's
[33:19] Speaker 1: the shooting, but it's his competitive nature that drives that
[33:23] Speaker 1: machine You know, Draymond is who he is for them,
[33:27] Speaker 1: but Steph's competitive nature is what drives, has what's been
[33:32] Speaker 1: driving that for so long. Yeah, I'm not surprised. And, yeah, hey,
[33:41] Speaker 1: they mess around and get eight. Their confidence is going
[33:44] Speaker 1: to increase. They're not going to beat San Antonio, but
[33:47] Speaker 1: they're going to make it as difficult as possible with
[33:50] Speaker 1: coaching and game plan and different things like that. Oh,
[33:55] Speaker 1: they're going to get the seven. No, they can't get
[33:57] Speaker 1: the seven, my bad.
[33:58] Speaker 2: Okay, sir.
[33:59] Speaker 3: I thought they could get the second. They can definitely
[34:00] Speaker 3: get swept by the Thunder. Yeah, they definitely get swept
[34:02] Speaker 3: by the Thunder. They play at a high level. Yeah,
[34:04] Speaker 3: it's a different style of play. I thought they could
[34:06] Speaker 3: get the second.
[34:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad. All this play-in shit, my bad. Yeah, definitely.
[34:10] Speaker 2: I think they can honestly steal one on the Thunder.
[34:13] Speaker 2: It's a different animal. It's a different animal.
[34:15] Speaker 5: I'm going to throw all the little motherfuckers.
[34:18] Speaker 2: I thought they could steal all that play-in shit. My bad.
[34:22] Speaker 2: It is confusing. Yeah, it is. My bad.
[34:24] Speaker 1: They're going to run.
[34:24] Speaker 2: I can feel them getting the game against the Spurs. Yeah,
[34:27] Speaker 2: my bad.
[34:27] Speaker 5: They could get a game against the Spurs a couple games.
[34:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, they could. My bad. OKC, they don't get swept.
[34:35] Speaker 2: They're going to compete, though, right?
[34:37] Speaker 1: If they're playing against OKC, they're going to be on
[34:39] Speaker 1: that stage again.
[34:40] Speaker 2: They're going to compete. Are you going to have games? Yeah,
[34:45] Speaker 2: but they got bodies they can throw at him, man. Yeah,
[34:48] Speaker 2: too many.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a lot of wings they can throw
[34:51] Speaker 1: at him. We're going to try to wear him down. Oh,
[34:53] Speaker 1: God damn, G. Yeah, that's a tall task, but no, man,
[34:57] Speaker 1: it's good to see him going out and competing the
[35:00] Speaker 1: way he does.
[35:01] Speaker 2: And we'll get to see it one more time.
[35:03] Speaker 3: Swag, when you look at your staff, your former NBA
[35:07] Speaker 3: championship teammate, a man responsible for getting you the championship experience.
[35:12] Speaker 2: You mean I got him one championship? Did you? Yeah.
[35:15] Speaker 2: You do say role players get you one of your games?
[35:17] Speaker 2: I won a couple games for him. He was tripping.
[35:19] Speaker 2: I was like, I got you. Yeah.
[35:22] Speaker 1: But.
[35:25] Speaker 5: But nah it's good like we all knew it was
[35:28] Speaker 5: coming I thought night night was coming once they came
[35:30] Speaker 5: back we knew Steph was gonna do one of those
[35:34] Speaker 5: you know that three and do this running down the
[35:37] Speaker 5: court like once the and that's what we love like
[35:41] Speaker 5: Steph could change your mind real fast and make you
[35:45] Speaker 5: enjoy the game and make you see him as you
[35:49] Speaker 5: know one of the greatest instantly as you just watch
[35:51] Speaker 5: him and it gives it gives It gives me hope.
[35:55] Speaker 5: You know, he's 38 out there hooping. You know, I'll
[35:59] Speaker 5: go to the park and be like, man, I could
[36:00] Speaker 5: do this too. You know, when I see my old
[36:02] Speaker 5: guys out there, I'm like, you know what? I could
[36:05] Speaker 5: probably do this too.
[36:06] Speaker 2: You feel me?
[36:07] Speaker 5: My knees starting to work and shit. I'm like, man,
[36:11] Speaker 5: I could shit go out there and get a 10 day.
[36:13] Speaker 2: How old are you? 40. You could go out there
[36:18] Speaker 2: swagging and get a 10 day? I could.
[36:19] Speaker 5: You know, if I really train like a professional again,
[36:24] Speaker 5: I think I could be like Steph Curry. And that's
[36:26] Speaker 5: what the kids see. He gives everybody hope out there.
[36:29] Speaker 5: And that's all you ask for. He's like the savior
[36:34] Speaker 5: of the NBA.
[36:35] Speaker 2: He brings hope.
[36:38] Speaker 5: Like, you should have a picture of Steph Curry and
[36:40] Speaker 5: Hope on it, like, on it from President.
[36:43] Speaker 1: He give regular civilians hope.
[36:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, like, all these kids think they can shoot threes
[36:47] Speaker 5: and shit like Steph.
[36:48] Speaker 2: Like, give everybody hope when you see that. For those
[36:52] Speaker 2: that have been in high school gyms, they think they can.
[36:54] Speaker 2: They like Steph Curry. They think they can do it.
[36:57] Speaker 2: It's the same thing in Miami. The difference is Steph
[37:00] Speaker 2: shots go in. What's his name? The white boy, what's
[37:04] Speaker 2: his name from Miami? Tyler Herro?
[37:06] Speaker 5: He had the fast break layup and ran to the three.
[37:08] Speaker 2: Herro? Yeah, that's the shit Steph think make you do.
[37:12] Speaker 5: He got fouled, but he had that wide open layup
[37:17] Speaker 5: and said, fuck that, and ran to the corner three
[37:19] Speaker 5: and said, nigga, I'm Steph.
[37:22] Speaker 2: Tyler Herro said, nigga, I'm Steph, as he- Yeah.
[37:25] Speaker 5: He's just not half black. He like all white, so
[37:28] Speaker 5: he's not all the way Steph.
[37:29] Speaker 2: From Milwaukee, though. Mm-hmm. Who's from Milwaukee? Herro.
[37:33] Speaker 1: Tyler Herro, great city.
[37:36] Speaker 2: No way. Swear to God, yeah. What the? Grew up
[37:39] Speaker 2: near your family that you have yet. He could be
[37:41] Speaker 2: my cousin.
[37:42] Speaker 5: No wonder he's cool. I've seen him at the family reunion.
[37:47] Speaker 2: Well, let's... See, this is why people fail in life. What?
[37:51] Speaker 2: They give hope. You fail off hope.
[37:54] Speaker 4: And I see why a lot of companies make a
[37:57] Speaker 4: lot of money. That's why NBA is big business.
[37:59] Speaker 2: Hope. That's why Las Vegas exists. You said you're.
[38:02] Speaker 5: 40... And I feel like I could beat Steph.
[38:05] Speaker 2: I feel like. Yeah. I feel like.
[38:09] Speaker 5: I'm like the YouTube 101 Hooper. All I need is
[38:11] Speaker 5: an opportunity.
[38:12] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Because, no, no, no. You feel like it, right?
[38:18] Speaker 2: It gives you hope, right? That is so far away
[38:23] Speaker 2: from the reality of what Steph is. You fat, out
[38:27] Speaker 2: of shape. I'm not fat. I'm not fat.
[38:29] Speaker 1: You can't say that.
[38:29] Speaker 2: You're sad, flubbery, out of shape. Your knees hurt. We've
[38:34] Speaker 2: seen you at the Creator League outside. We've seen you
[38:37] Speaker 2: last year. What was that game?
[38:39] Speaker 4: We've seen you.
[38:40] Speaker 2: Last year outside. I got a train. I'm a train.
[38:45] Speaker 2: That's the difference between hope and reality. I'm a train.
[38:47] Speaker 2: Hope looks at it and says... I think I can
[38:50] Speaker 2: do that.
[38:51] Speaker 5: I could.
[38:51] Speaker 4: Reality is you're training, you're getting in shape, and when
[38:55] Speaker 4: you see it, yeah, I can do.
[38:57] Speaker 2: That because I'm ready.
[38:59] Speaker 4: You as close to that, Steph, as me.
[39:03] Speaker 2: And I haven't touched a goddamn ass in six months. No,
[39:05] Speaker 2: I'm farther than you. I'm farther than you.
[39:06] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[39:07] Speaker 2: We both not there. I'm in the middle. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[39:10] Speaker 5: You where it started. We both in the same project, brother.
[39:14] Speaker 5: I ain't going to let you shoot my dream.
[39:15] Speaker 2: I have a screen door. You have a wood door.
[39:17] Speaker 2: I ain't going to let you shoot my dream. Right?
[39:18] Speaker 1: We both got a door. You're going to mess up
[39:19] Speaker 1: my dream.
[39:20] Speaker 2: I got a dream. They just can't see through yours.
[39:22] Speaker 2: That's it. I had a dream. I had a dream.
[39:24] Speaker 2: I had a dream.
[39:25] Speaker 4: Out of that dream goes.
[39:26] Speaker 2: Los. Okay? No. All right. That was close. I hope
[39:32] Speaker 2: I could. Hey, Ken, I could go do it. Where's
[39:38] Speaker 2: that fight with Blueface? I ain't doing that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[39:44] Speaker 2: You rewatched it, huh? You rewatched it. I come here
[39:48] Speaker 2: like this. You could beat him. I could, but.
[39:55] Speaker 1: Let's talk quickly about Draymond.
[39:59] Speaker 2: My kids go to school. They was talking about it, too.
[40:02] Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure.
[40:03] Speaker 1: Kids was like, hey, we're in a fight.
[40:06] Speaker 2: I said, damn, y'all know about it, too? My son
[40:09] Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to go here no more if
[40:10] Speaker 2: I get.
[40:10] Speaker 1: My ass kicked.
[40:12] Speaker 2: He going to get into a fight at school. Man,
[40:14] Speaker 2: your daddy got his ass. I said, nah, I ain't
[40:16] Speaker 2: going to do this to my kids. Do you like
[40:18] Speaker 2: it like Blueface did to your daddy? I ain't going
[40:21] Speaker 2: to fuck with my kids like that. Smart man. That's money,
[40:27] Speaker 2: you know, that's good money right there. It's good money,
[40:30] Speaker 2: I said, but.
[40:32] Speaker 1: Then you can't talk shit to your kids no more.
[40:33] Speaker 2: Then you can't threaten them no more. All right.
[40:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't say that to Blueface.
[40:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to turn on the TV.
[40:41] Speaker 2: Come in, that shit going to be on YouTube. That's it.
[40:45] Speaker 2: They're going to wake up in the morning. Buzz down.
[40:49] Speaker 3: Talk about Draymond on the defensive side really quick. Draymond
[40:52] Speaker 3: Green delivered a vintage defensive performance, shutting down Kawhi in
[40:56] Speaker 3: the biggest game of the season. The claw was held
[40:57] Speaker 3: at 21 points for five turnovers. He had just seven
[41:00] Speaker 3: points in the second half, two in the fourth quarter.
[41:03] Speaker 3: After the game, Kawhi had high praise for Draymond, saying
[41:06] Speaker 3: Dray was a Hall of Fame defender and also saying
[41:09] Speaker 3: it was hard to even get shots up. So, Kenyon,
[41:11] Speaker 3: when you look at what Draymond was able to do
[41:12] Speaker 3: in that game defensively for the Warriors... Locking up Kawhi
[41:17] Speaker 3: in crunch time. How impressive was that in the Warriors win?
[41:21] Speaker 1: He took on a challenge, right? He's had a lot
[41:24] Speaker 1: of battles against him. He's played a lot of basketball
[41:27] Speaker 1: against him, so he knows his tendencies for one. Anticipation,
[41:33] Speaker 1: knowing what his go-to moves are and beating him to
[41:35] Speaker 1: the spot, like on the crossover. Knowing what he was
[41:39] Speaker 1: about to do and beating him to the spot. Doing
[41:41] Speaker 1: your homework, but playing against him before.
[41:44] Speaker 2: Helps.
[41:47] Speaker 1: Just taking the challenge, man. We all know Draymond is
[41:49] Speaker 1: going to compete. We know he's going to go out
[41:52] Speaker 1: and compete at the highest level. Especially on that side
[41:57] Speaker 1: of the ball. That's where he lays his hat on.
[42:02] Speaker 1: He did in the fourth quarter. Throughout the game and
[42:06] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, they were doing a good job at
[42:08] Speaker 1: putting two on Kawhi as well. Draymond taking the challenge individually.
[42:14] Speaker 1: not to let their best player beat them, right? In
[42:18] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter game on the line. So, yeah, that's
[42:22] Speaker 1: what defensive guys do. Accept the challenge. Sometimes it goes
[42:29] Speaker 1: in your favor because guys are really, really good in
[42:31] Speaker 1: this league offensively.
[42:34] Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't.
[42:35] Speaker 1: Last night it went in his favor, right, that he
[42:37] Speaker 1: was able to get stops at key times on the
[42:41] Speaker 1: inbound play, making it difficult. for Kawhi to get a catch.
[42:45] Speaker 2: Late in the game.
[42:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, just doing your work early, man. And like
[42:48] Speaker 1: I said, playing against guys multiple times and you're a
[42:53] Speaker 1: defensive guy, you learn guys' tendencies, right? You learn what
[42:58] Speaker 1: their go-to moves when things get tough. All good scorers
[43:02] Speaker 1: have them, right? All good scorers have their go-to moves.
[43:08] Speaker 1: And it's learning those. And I think Draymond did an
[43:11] Speaker 1: excellent job at beating Kawhi to the spots and making
[43:14] Speaker 1: his shots. Challenging, contesting shots is underrated, I believe. Challenging
[43:20] Speaker 1: shots consistently is a hard thing. I think Kawhi did
[43:25] Speaker 1: an excellent job. I mean, Draymond did an excellent job
[43:27] Speaker 1: of that on Kawhi. Yeah, no, it's just showing up
[43:31] Speaker 1: when your team needs you. And I think Draymond did
[43:34] Speaker 1: that last night, and he's going to continue to do that.
[43:36] Speaker 2: When you're looking with Draymond, Big steals. Crunch time. Ripping Kawhi.
[43:46] Speaker 2: It is the.
[43:47] Speaker 4: It's like the same player build.
[43:55] Speaker 2: Draymond Green has all the attributes to contain Kawhi. Right?
[44:02] Speaker 2: Lateral quickness. Can jump. Long arms also. So what Kawhi.
[44:10] Speaker 4: Usually does with everyone else, get that one dribble hit,
[44:13] Speaker 4: then because his arm's long, fingers long, he can still
[44:17] Speaker 4: normally shoot that over most any guard or wing that's
[44:21] Speaker 4: guarding him. But Draymond at four with long arms too,
[44:25] Speaker 4: quicker than him. He's going to beat him to the
[44:27] Speaker 4: spot and make him shoot more fadeaways than he wants to.
[44:29] Speaker 4: So when I looked at some of the stats from
[44:32] Speaker 4: the past, it looks just like this. where you're going
[44:36] Speaker 4: to force Kawhi to pass the ball. You're not going
[44:38] Speaker 4: to take a lot of shots. The shots you're going
[44:41] Speaker 4: to take, you're going to be contested because I can
[44:44] Speaker 4: contest them.
[44:45] Speaker 2: I'm quicker, faster, stronger than you. Some of those builds
[44:50] Speaker 2: do neutralize you.
[44:52] Speaker 4: There's always a guy that just has your number. It
[44:56] Speaker 4: seems like when it comes to Kawhi, him getting poked.
[45:00] Speaker 4: We've never seen Kawhi just get ripped like that, but
[45:03] Speaker 4: Draymond got the same. You got that same arm length.
[45:06] Speaker 4: So you try to do that little small crossover. I
[45:09] Speaker 4: can get that. Let me take that with you.
[45:14] Speaker 2: I used to cook them, though. Huh? You used to
[45:16] Speaker 2: cook the orders.
[45:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, but, you know, it's, well, I don't know. But
[45:21] Speaker 1: you got to look at when Draymond is guarding. Yeah,
[45:23] Speaker 1: when Draymond's guarding.
[45:24] Speaker 5: Spurs was about to put them out the playoffs until
[45:27] Speaker 5: he got hurt, man.
[45:29] Speaker 2: I'm back then.
[45:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But if you look at it,
[45:34] Speaker 1: it's just how I look at my matchup against Zach Randolph.
[45:41] Speaker 1: My matchup against Al Jefferson. My matchup against LaMarcus Aldridge.
[45:47] Speaker 1: My matchup against Kate. There's nothing like great players. They
[45:53] Speaker 1: giving people hell out there. Two guys, LaMarcus Argers and
[45:58] Speaker 1: motherfucking Al Jefferson told me, listen, man, I be busting
[46:01] Speaker 1: these niggas in this league ass, dog.
[46:04] Speaker 2: I ain't never got the best of you. And you
[46:08] Speaker 2: never will. Right?
[46:10] Speaker 1: No, because it's just what I do defensively, it matches
[46:14] Speaker 1: what they do offensively, right? So I'm not going for
[46:18] Speaker 1: pump fakes. I'm not going to let you, LaMarcus Argers,
[46:20] Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to
[46:21] Speaker 1: swim me? I'm not going to put my arm on
[46:22] Speaker 1: you so you can swim me, get me to get
[46:24] Speaker 1: to your running hook. I know you're trying to go
[46:27] Speaker 1: right shoulder in the post. I'm going to make you
[46:28] Speaker 1: go left shoulder. So I'm going to make you do things.
[46:30] Speaker 1: You're going to score, but I'm going to make you
[46:31] Speaker 1: do things like Al Jefferson. I'm not going for that.
[46:34] Speaker 2: Right? I'm not going for that. Right?
[46:37] Speaker 1: You're going to make a contested shot. You might score
[46:39] Speaker 1: that jump hook, but you're going to get it. I'm
[46:41] Speaker 1: not going for certain things that everybody else goes for.
[46:43] Speaker 2: Right?
[46:44] Speaker 1: Draymond is that way.
[46:45] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[46:46] Speaker 1: I'm not, he's not going.
[46:47] Speaker 2: For your go-to move.
[46:48] Speaker 1: You're going to have to do something different, right?
[46:51] Speaker 5: He's thinking like, shit, I got to do all kinds
[46:53] Speaker 5: of shit.
[46:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, you see him out there and I'm like, whoa.
[46:55] Speaker 2: Because I'm like, why are you bringing the ball up
[46:56] Speaker 2: the court?
[46:57] Speaker 1: All right, I'm thinking right now, getting the ball right
[46:59] Speaker 1: here in the wing.
[46:59] Speaker 2: And trying to one-step. Yeah, no, that don't work.
[47:01] Speaker 1: I got to do something. That don't work.
[47:03] Speaker 2: I'm going to get to this shit. Yeah, I'm saying, yeah.
[47:06] Speaker 1: Because he's trying to make, if Draymond is going to
[47:08] Speaker 1: guard me, he's going to have to pick me up
[47:10] Speaker 1: full court. He's going to have to do butt. It'll
[47:13] Speaker 1: make you exert some more energy out here. You got
[47:15] Speaker 1: to do something different.
[47:17] Speaker 2: I guess he thought he was fast. Yeah.
[47:20] Speaker 1: But to Gil's point, man, like Draymond knows, like he's
[47:22] Speaker 1: just as quick laterally.
[47:24] Speaker 2: He uses his hands well.
[47:26] Speaker 1: And once you use all your extremities against these really
[47:28] Speaker 1: good scorers and you learn how to play defense, it
[47:31] Speaker 1: goes in your favor, right? Like you're using everything at
[47:35] Speaker 1: your disposal that you have defensively, man. And the best
[47:39] Speaker 1: thing Draymond has is this, right?
[47:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. But is that another thing?
[47:43] Speaker 5: Like, you going into the game knowing I don't have
[47:45] Speaker 5: to do nothing else but.
[47:46] Speaker 2: Try to shut this dude down.
[47:48] Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps. Yeah, does that help, too? Like, I
[47:51] Speaker 5: ain't got to worry about scoring. I'm about to just...
[47:53] Speaker 5: I mean, not for him.
[47:54] Speaker 2: I mean.
[47:55] Speaker 1: What was the stats last night? 7, 8, 9. 7,
[47:57] Speaker 1: 9 rebounds. 7, yeah.
[47:59] Speaker 2: So that's a lot. You ain't got to get 20.
[48:01] Speaker 2: I'm about to impact the game.
[48:03] Speaker 1: But that 7, 8, 9 is... It impacts me.
[48:05] Speaker 2: 7.6, 9 rebounds.
[48:06] Speaker 5: For sure came back because Kawhi could have scored.
[48:13] Speaker 1: But I don't want to diminish what Draymond did. They
[48:16] Speaker 1: also went 15 for 21 from the field. They were
[48:18] Speaker 1: 15 for 20 in the fourth quarter. So let's not
[48:20] Speaker 1: act like they were bad. They were great offensively. The
[48:23] Speaker 1: Warriors were great offensively. They missed fucking five shots in
[48:25] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.
[48:27] Speaker 2: Draymond got long arms to act. His hands are always acting.
[48:30] Speaker 4: To get out of Draymond's... Like his defense, you have
[48:37] Speaker 4: to be faster than him, right?
[48:40] Speaker 2: Got to come a little bit long. Taller, more athletic.
[48:44] Speaker 1: Like them guys give him problems.
[48:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
[48:47] Speaker 4: Right, the guys that– the guys like– that's what I
[48:49] Speaker 4: said with Kawhi.
[48:50] Speaker 2: That's the wrong guy.
[48:51] Speaker 4: Like you're a small four shooting guard, but that's the
[48:54] Speaker 4: wrong person on you because you can't go try to
[48:57] Speaker 4: hit him and do all that. He's going to– absorb
[49:00] Speaker 4: all of that. Like me, I hated that stocky small, right?
[49:06] Speaker 4: I hated the stock, you know what I mean? That
[49:08] Speaker 4: stocky small. That move laterally.
[49:11] Speaker 2: I hate it all.
[49:14] Speaker 1: Will Bynum and shit.
[49:15] Speaker 2: I hate it, Marcus. Like, dog, don't guard me, bro. Yeah, yeah.
[49:19] Speaker 2: I hate that shit.
[49:20] Speaker 1: Like, what's so funny.
[49:21] Speaker 9: Is, I used to hate going against Will Bynum.
[49:23] Speaker 4: In the beginning of the game, like, because you know
[49:25] Speaker 4: he didn't start. So I'm sitting here like, yeah, I
[49:27] Speaker 4: got to hurry up and get my, like, 15 before
[49:29] Speaker 4: he can do it.
[49:29] Speaker 2: What?
[49:31] Speaker 4: Because you can sell me out when he come in
[49:33] Speaker 4: trying to bring the, because he ain't going to let
[49:35] Speaker 4: me bring the ball up.
[49:35] Speaker 2: He's not. Right, he ain't.
[49:37] Speaker 4: So now I can't just go full speed on nobody.
[49:40] Speaker 4: And then Jason, and then Jason Kidd. Like, I just
[49:43] Speaker 4: dreaded those games.
[49:44] Speaker 2: Like, oh, man. That's when you got to come off
[49:46] Speaker 2: the screen, down.
[49:48] Speaker 1: Now, didn't I do a pick?
[49:49] Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I'm like, we're just going to pick
[49:50] Speaker 2: the shit out of him.
[49:51] Speaker 5: But that's what Kawhi should have did, too. Try to
[49:54] Speaker 5: get Draymond off of him.
[49:56] Speaker 2: Like, I hated it.
[49:58] Speaker 4: Like, if I had Jason Kidd, then I didn't want
[50:02] Speaker 4: to do pick and roll because I got King and
[50:03] Speaker 4: then Jason Kidd switching off.
[50:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[50:06] Speaker 4: Now, I love playing against Chauncey then.
[50:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not the same. Y'all
[50:13] Speaker 2: got a.
[50:13] Speaker 4: Good defense as a team. But I'm not playing in
[50:17] Speaker 4: y'all's favor. I'm not going to be on the wing
[50:20] Speaker 4: trying to go one-on-one against Chauncey. Chauncey right here, you
[50:23] Speaker 4: got Ben Wallace. Hell, I'm going from the middle right here. Twan,
[50:29] Speaker 4: go ahead and make Ben Wallace get there. I'd rather
[50:31] Speaker 4: have Rip and Twan.
[50:33] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So that's how I'm attacking them. Right.
[50:36] Speaker 4: So I so because if I try to do a
[50:38] Speaker 4: pick and roll, Ben Wallace is pushing me to the
[50:40] Speaker 4: half court.
[50:41] Speaker 2: So I didn't like doing pick and roll when he's
[50:43] Speaker 2: in the game.
[50:44] Speaker 4: Right.
[50:44] Speaker 2: So, you know, you know what neutralizes you as a player.
[50:47] Speaker 2: Do what McDyess said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That
[50:50] Speaker 2: should even bring Rasheed out here. Cool. He going to
[50:53] Speaker 2: try to outsmart me. Is that coaching, too? What?
[50:56] Speaker 5: Like what Steph did with Lopez at the end. Like,
[50:58] Speaker 5: you know who to put in the pick and roll.
[51:00] Speaker 2: No, that's smart. That's smart. Well, same thing. Like, Kawhi,
[51:03] Speaker 2: but I don't think Kawhi would be a smart coach.
[51:05] Speaker 2: Dumb on T.
[51:06] Speaker 1: Lou and smart on Steph Curry.
[51:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[51:08] Speaker 1: You know he going to attack this stack. Yeah, I
[51:09] Speaker 1: don't even know why he out there. Yes, I'm going
[51:11] Speaker 1: to attack.
[51:11] Speaker 2: This stack, Kawhi. I don't know why I do that
[51:13] Speaker 2: on the other end with, like, Al Horford. Al Horford
[51:16] Speaker 2: got four threes in the fourth quarter. Nigga. The last one,
[51:18] Speaker 2: you ain't nowhere near it. That's what I'm saying. Like,
[51:21] Speaker 2: what the fuck is he out there for? But you
[51:23] Speaker 2: can do that with Al Horford on the other end.
[51:24] Speaker 2: But that's you as a player.
[51:26] Speaker 4: But that's the difference between, there's a chess move, right?
[51:30] Speaker 4: Steph probably did a pick and roll, and they switched it.
[51:33] Speaker 2: All right, I'm passing it. I'm going to save this
[51:36] Speaker 2: one for the end. Yeah. Right?
[51:39] Speaker 5: I'm going to say, I got the pick and roll.
[51:42] Speaker 2: They switching it. All right, cool.
[51:44] Speaker 4: I'm going to save it for the end. So what
[51:46] Speaker 4: ends up happening is, boom, I get that pick and roll.
[51:48] Speaker 4: Now they're not, because if I don't hit him, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[51:51] Speaker 2: Now next time they might call that trap.
[51:53] Speaker 1: But they were still trying to trap him. He just
[51:55] Speaker 1: attacked him.
[51:56] Speaker 2: Like, they weren't switching it. He was just, yeah, he's
[51:58] Speaker 2: just going around. Like, Brook Lopez is that. If I'm Lopez,
[52:00] Speaker 2: I'm doing exactly what the old people do. Under. Over. No.
[52:07] Speaker 2: Not at that point. Over.
[52:09] Speaker 1: Put him down.
[52:10] Speaker 2: At that point. At that point. Trap. You just stay
[52:13] Speaker 2: high and let him go to the hole. Your statue. Yeah.
[52:16] Speaker 2: I just. Let him go. You send him to the hole.
[52:20] Speaker 2: Hopefully somebody helps. Who? Lopez?
[52:23] Speaker 1: You're talking about that three that he took, right?
[52:25] Speaker 2: That's why I'm staying high. He can't even shoot the
[52:27] Speaker 2: three up.
[52:28] Speaker 9: Everybody know he about to shoot the three up.
[52:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody know he going to shoot the three up.
[52:31] Speaker 2: The whole world know Steph about to shoot the three up.
[52:33] Speaker 2: Foot speed matters. But you stay there already, though.
[52:36] Speaker 1: Two, it don't matter what.
[52:37] Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking about.
[52:40] Speaker 1: Because I was like, I.
[52:41] Speaker 4: Mean, Brooke would have had to have been on the
[52:43] Speaker 4: ball like this already.
[52:44] Speaker 5: When you need a two to win, what you do?
[52:47] Speaker 5: Guard the whole three-point line. Foot speed. He attacked him
[52:51] Speaker 5: for a reason.
[52:52] Speaker 1: But he attacked him for a reason.
[52:55] Speaker 2: That's what. Foot speed. I know I can get around him.
[52:59] Speaker 2: But Lopez got to know that, though. He knew that
[53:01] Speaker 2: he was up. No, no, no.
[53:05] Speaker 1: No, Steph went like this. And he, the last.
[53:09] Speaker 2: Last or what? Let's keep going. Keep going. Anytime we have. Lopez.
[53:14] Speaker 2: High-speed internet here.
[53:15] Speaker 5: He did a step back on Lopez.
[53:17] Speaker 1: Like, Lopez should know what's coming at this point.
[53:19] Speaker 2: Go back. That was it. Go back. Go back. Go back.
[53:23] Speaker 1: Like, Lopez should know.
[53:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, this is coming. Everybody know. I'm going to be
[53:28] Speaker 2: high already. Go back. Go back. Go back. Go back.
[53:31] Speaker 1: Go back. He think he high. He think he high.
[53:35] Speaker 2: I'm already right here. He think he high. He think
[53:38] Speaker 2: he high. Listen, hey. You're switching it. No, this is
[53:43] Speaker 2: brilliant basketball by Steph.
[53:45] Speaker 1: That is brilliant basketball by Steph. Stay up. Stay up.
[53:49] Speaker 2: Hold on. Rewind it back. Rewind it back. This is
[53:54] Speaker 2: what makes Steph great. Yes. Right?
[53:57] Speaker 1: Watch this shit.
[53:58] Speaker 2: No, before that pass, go back a little bit. Right?
[54:03] Speaker 4: He has to play Steph for the first drive.
[54:07] Speaker 1: The only reason Steph threw it backwards is because he's
[54:11] Speaker 1: stopping it.
[54:12] Speaker 2: Now I'm going to throw it back and come back.
[54:14] Speaker 1: No, so look. Either way it goes. If he kept going,
[54:17] Speaker 1: he was beat.
[54:17] Speaker 2: Listen, either way it's going.
[54:19] Speaker 1: Either way Steph was going right now, Brooke Lopez is beat.
[54:24] Speaker 5: I'm going to try to.
[54:26] Speaker 2: Drain my head. He is beat. So all he's reading is,
[54:29] Speaker 2: where's Lopez?
[54:30] Speaker 1: He's like, Lopez is going to stop me.
[54:32] Speaker 4: I'm going to throw it back.
[54:32] Speaker 2: And his big-ass momentum, like, oh, shit. Look, so Lopez, look, stay. Lopez, stay.
[54:38] Speaker 1: No, hey, no, get up.
[54:39] Speaker 2: Like, speed. Get high.
[54:44] Speaker 1: I hear y'all.
[54:45] Speaker 4: Look, he pushed off.
[54:47] Speaker 1: Okay, hold up. Hold the fuck on.
[54:49] Speaker 2: I hear y'all.
[54:50] Speaker 1: Yes, foot speed matters.
[54:53] Speaker 5: I'm letting Draymond do this shit and go to the home.
[54:55] Speaker 2: That's how high I am.
[54:56] Speaker 1: Cool, but let me ask you a question.
[54:58] Speaker 2: I'm going to let Draymond score. I'm going to make
[54:59] Speaker 2: him score. Back a little bit. Back a little bit.
[55:01] Speaker 2: Right there. Stop. You make how many players in this
[55:06] Speaker 2: NBA is making that shot? At this moment in time.
[55:11] Speaker 2: Not a lot. Not a lot.
[55:15] Speaker 5: Now, go.
[55:15] Speaker 2: Look at the space.
[55:16] Speaker 1: There's not a lot of people who shot at that fast.
[55:19] Speaker 2: Every star player. No, not every star player. No, no, no.
[55:21] Speaker 2: Not every star player.
[55:22] Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is everybody in the building know
[55:26] Speaker 6: who about to shoot the three.
[55:27] Speaker 2: He knew he was about to shoot the three.
[55:29] Speaker 1: Brooke Lopez, you don't like, bro, get up.
[55:31] Speaker 2: Like, what are we doing?
[55:32] Speaker 1: Separation he got?
[55:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:33] Speaker 1: Brook Lopez thought he was up. I'm telling you.
[55:36] Speaker 2: Go ask him.
[55:38] Speaker 1: He will tell you.
[55:40] Speaker 2: I was up on the screen. No, he played it
[55:41] Speaker 2: for the drive.
[55:43] Speaker 1: He played it for the drive. He stepped back. He
[55:47] Speaker 1: could have went by him when he got a layup.
[55:49] Speaker 1: He definitely got anything he wanted in that moment. That
[55:52] Speaker 1: three kills a whole spirit. A tough shot?
[55:55] Speaker 2: Oh, man. No, no, no.
[55:57] Speaker 9: I do like the first play, though, the comeback, the boom.
[55:59] Speaker 9: He already knew he was there, and that happened so fast.
[56:01] Speaker 1: That's what fucked him up.
[56:02] Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
[56:03] Speaker 1: Because the boom, and then they got it.
[56:05] Speaker 2: Back, right?
[56:05] Speaker 1: He was like, oh, shit. I was beat this way,
[56:09] Speaker 1: and he threw that bitch back, and Brooke Lopez said, oh, shit.
[56:14] Speaker 2: The guard himself has not watched Steph enough. There's telltale signs.
[56:22] Speaker 4: Steph tells you there's a play he shows, there's a
[56:26] Speaker 4: move he does that tells you he's coming back to
[56:28] Speaker 4: the ball.
[56:28] Speaker 2: And it is the behind the back pass. Right? Because
[56:32] Speaker 2: it's all one motion. I'm coming here.
[56:34] Speaker 4: If I'm going to go back that way, I'm passing
[56:35] Speaker 4: it here so I don't have to back up, stop,
[56:37] Speaker 4: and do this.
[56:38] Speaker 2: So it's just one motion.
[56:39] Speaker 1: Stop. Come back.
[56:41] Speaker 4: So if you a guard and you know this and
[56:44] Speaker 4: you know he passes it, you're not going to try
[56:47] Speaker 4: to beat him anymore.
[56:50] Speaker 2: Right? You're not going to try.
[56:51] Speaker 4: Like, if you look at it, he overruns Steph.
[56:56] Speaker 1: That's what ends up happening.
[56:57] Speaker 5: Human nature being used against you at its finest.
[57:02] Speaker 2: You're right.
[57:02] Speaker 9: I mean, to me, I'm letting Steph turn the court
[57:04] Speaker 9: making gold.
[57:05] Speaker 6: I know Steph wants this three, but I don't know.
[57:08] Speaker 2: The play was set up. Steph, whatever it was. Who
[57:12] Speaker 2: else going to score right there? Jump, Steph.
[57:14] Speaker 1: Not with Brooke Lopez. You can't.
[57:16] Speaker 2: But jump. I'm just saying. It's easy to say. Okay.
[57:20] Speaker 1: Nick.
[57:20] Speaker 4: Jump.
[57:21] Speaker 2: No, no.
[57:21] Speaker 1: Nick.
[57:21] Speaker 2: Let Draymond score. Listen to what you're saying.
[57:23] Speaker 1: I'm making sure. Not with Brooke Lopez.
[57:26] Speaker 2: But I'm going to make it look like we want
[57:27] Speaker 2: Draymond to score. No, Mike.
[57:29] Speaker 1: Don't find anybody.
[57:29] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Thank you. Thank you. Like jumping.
[57:33] Speaker 2: Like you right there. I'm like this. Steph got the ball.
[57:36] Speaker 2: I'm right here.
[57:37] Speaker 1: I'm like this.
[57:38] Speaker 2: Okay.
[57:38] Speaker 1: With John Collins, yes. He was playing, but not with
[57:42] Speaker 1: Brook Lopez.
[57:42] Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going, keep going. Let me ask you, right?
[57:44] Speaker 2: Let me ask you. He ain't bringing it up. Rewind it.
[57:47] Speaker 1: Go back, go back.
[57:48] Speaker 2: He ain't bringing it up. Rewind it. Jump it. All
[57:50] Speaker 2: the way. I'm like, force him to me. Go back
[57:53] Speaker 2: to this one.
[57:53] Speaker 1: You're going to see the first.
[57:54] Speaker 2: Done. The problem is you're going to jump it now.
[57:57] Speaker 1: That's why I'm jumping. I want to jump it right now.
[57:59] Speaker 5: But I'm telling Don to stay this way, and I'm jumping.
[58:02] Speaker 5: We chopping them right here and making them pass.
[58:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. You still don't see what he did.
[58:06] Speaker 1: He is going to attack this. Yo, if Brooke Lopez
[58:09] Speaker 1: jump out there, I'm telling you right now, he is
[58:11] Speaker 1: going to attack him. He is not.
[58:13] Speaker 2: I'm telling you what.
[58:14] Speaker 1: He's going to do. I want the second jump.
[58:17] Speaker 2: I'm saying that.
[58:18] Speaker 1: On the first play, right?
[58:20] Speaker 2: You don't know there's a second one.
[58:21] Speaker 4: So you're playing the first one. So I'm going to
[58:25] Speaker 4: tell you what he's going to do. He's going to
[58:27] Speaker 4: come off. You're going to jump it, right?
[58:30] Speaker 2: Tell me. Come on. Me and Brandon. Where are you going?
[58:34] Speaker 2: I'm like this. Sit on my way.
[58:36] Speaker 1: I'm like this. I'm already going this way. I'm leaving.
[58:39] Speaker 2: I'm going this pick right here. So the pick is here.
[58:42] Speaker 2: I'm already going here. So you're already on that side.
[58:44] Speaker 2: So jump me.
[58:45] Speaker 1: Jump me.
[58:45] Speaker 2: Go on the side. Jump me.
[58:47] Speaker 1: Jump me. You're going to jump me.
[58:49] Speaker 2: I'm going to pass it like this. Okay. Right? Uh-huh.
[58:51] Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
[58:54] Speaker 4: Oh, no.
[58:54] Speaker 1: No, we're going to let him make a play. Make something.
[58:57] Speaker 1: Go ahead.
[58:58] Speaker 10: Do something.
[58:59] Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dre.
[59:00] Speaker 3: I know.
[59:01] Speaker 2: Do something. I'm going to be looking at you in
[59:02] Speaker 2: your eye like, hey, go night-night. But you got to remember,
[59:06] Speaker 2: I can beat you anyway.
[59:07] Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do because I'm going to pass
[59:09] Speaker 4: it if you fail.
[59:10] Speaker 2: I'm gonna go here this is a pig I shot
[59:11] Speaker 2: this by myself I.
[59:28] Speaker 1: That's all that's going to happen. Because he removed himself.
[59:31] Speaker 4: So all I'm going to do is pass it.
[59:34] Speaker 2: He's going to set this.
[59:35] Speaker 4: I'm going to pass it to Draymond. Draymond is going
[59:39] Speaker 4: to just do a handoff.
[59:40] Speaker 1: I'm going to move here.
[59:42] Speaker 2: Did I come up like this, though? Your ass ain't
[59:44] Speaker 2: that fat! That's what I'm saying. But look, watch, watch, watch. Go,
[59:48] Speaker 2: play it, play it, play it.
[59:49] Speaker 4: You're missing the first part of it, though.
[59:51] Speaker 1: That's the part I'm making.
[59:52] Speaker 2: Stop it, stop it. I'm going to come up right now. Look, look,
[59:56] Speaker 2: look at Brooke. Look at the guard. Look at the guard.
[59:59] Speaker 2: You're done. See, he overplays it.
[1:00:01] Speaker 4: See, the guard overplays it.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: So we're talking hoop, right?
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're talking basketball.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: What screen in the last 10 years has Brooke Lopez
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: been up on?
[1:00:09] Speaker 2: None. I asked you that one. That's a better question. Oh, yeah.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: That's a better question.
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Bucs, for the championship. Yeah, the run
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: for the championship. The run for the championship. He wasn't
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: up on the screen. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: Go watch it. He's incapable.
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: Go watch it. Go watch it. Go watch it. The
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: run with the Bucs.
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: He was a statue then. He's a statue now. With
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: the Nets? Statue then, statue now. No, he was up.
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: It's one minute left. 17, 117. But I can tell you. No,
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: I get it. Wait, come. Let me see you come down.
[1:00:36] Speaker 4: Let me see you come down.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: Come down. Go over. Rewind it. Rewind it.
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: They had no time out.
[1:00:42] Speaker 4: No, no.
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: Rewind it. So there's.
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: Go back to the.
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: So they run this play. So there's eight seconds left.
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: I can tell you right now.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:00:51] Speaker 4: A great defensive player in the back end. would have
[1:00:56] Speaker 4: already pre-switched that.
[1:00:58] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: Why could it?
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: Why Gordon Horford?
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: Well, we would have put Brooklyn in the corner. He
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: would have been in the corner.
[1:01:05] Speaker 4: No, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, this
[1:01:08] Speaker 4: is what Draymond would have did.
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: Right? That time's winding down.
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: You can see Steph doing this. Draymond would have ran
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: up there. Get back.
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Why?
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: No facts.
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: They don't have that up there. Facts. Thank you.
[1:01:21] Speaker 4: You think you were just going to ISO big man?
[1:01:25] Speaker 4: That defender back there, you know how that big man
[1:01:29] Speaker 4: get the running up in there?
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: You can see some teams do it. That big man
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: get the running.
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: Get back. I'll run up there with him. You get
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: to the corner guy. Who was supposed to do it then?
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: We do that at 24. Go out with her. I
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: do that at 24. I'm like, hey, you get him.
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: You get him. I got you.
[1:01:43] Speaker 5: Like, he got him with.
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: That little push-off.
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: That was supposed to be Kawhi.
[1:01:46] Speaker 4: Kawhi put Brooke Lopez in the corner with Al Horford.
[1:01:49] Speaker 4: And you can switch out on Curry if you need to.
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: Like, he let him get him off with that little push-off.
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: It was that little push-off. We know this is coming.
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, god damn.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: We know it's coming.
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: Hey, everyone knows it's coming, right?
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: Yep. And I've always asked this one question. Okay.
[1:02:07] Speaker 4: On each team, there's one person for sure that works
[1:02:12] Speaker 4: on game overs.
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: The MJs, right? The Kobe's, right?
[1:02:18] Speaker 4: There's only a few humans on a team that's working
[1:02:22] Speaker 4: on that.
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: In-the-game shots.
[1:02:25] Speaker 4: I can tell you this, Draymond don't spend time.
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: Talking about three, two.
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: He ain't doing that. So I'm always surprised.
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: Hey, under a.
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: Minute, he not shooting that.
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: Under a minute, Draymond is not shooting that ball, man.
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: He would have thrown that bitch to the basket and
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: kicked that mother. I'm telling you.
[1:02:45] Speaker 4: So I always ask the question is, how do you
[1:02:48] Speaker 4: as a defense Keep letting the only person on the
[1:02:54] Speaker 4: court take those shots.
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Listen, I hope that you do
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: the game 2-3-2-1. I want to see it. I want
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: to see it. 3-2-1. You just... Stay on this.
[1:03:11] Speaker 4: Your second, third option is going to be the game-winner guy.
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: I'm not going to let the dude who practiced game-winners
[1:03:18] Speaker 4: for a living.
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: I just put a double every time. I don't care.
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: We're going to face God with two. So against him,
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: you got to go against conventional players. basketball thought process, right?
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: You can't think inside the box when it comes to
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: Steph Curry. We were in practice one day when I
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: was with the Bucks and J.K.
[1:03:39] Speaker 2: Did this.
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: We was practicing defensive out-of-bounds play in the game shit.
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: And he put Giannis and John Henson on the fucking
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: ball out-of-bounds. Guarding the ball out-of-bounds. Where are you passing
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: the ball to? It's shit like that, right? You come out,
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: you didn't drew something up. and we put two on.
[1:04:01] Speaker 2: The out of bounds person.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: Seven, this fucking long ass shit, where you throwing the
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: ball to? Outside the box thinking, man. That's what you
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: have to do with Steph. People nervous taking that bitch out.
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: I don't want to mess up.
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: I hate that shit. Why you got me taking this
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: ball out?
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: Taking out the ball.
[1:04:21] Speaker 2: I hate that. You got to think outside the box, dog.
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: I'll be like, dude, we got timeouts. Make sure. We
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: got timeouts. This situation, nigga.
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: Hey, triangle and two. And both of them on him.
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: I'm putting both. We're going to play a zone on
[1:04:33] Speaker 1: the backside. I'm going to face guard him with two
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: people under a minute. I'm too terrified. We didn't see
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: him do it too many times.
[1:04:41] Speaker 4: Like the game of basketball under five minutes is where
[1:04:46] Speaker 4: the stars are born.
[1:04:49] Speaker 2: If I'm playing OKC, I know who's going to take
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: all the shots the last five minutes.
[1:04:56] Speaker 4: His team nor him is thinking that.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: You need five assists. This ain't Chris Paul. Right? This
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: ain't Rondo.
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: He's a scorer.
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: So the last.
[1:05:07] Speaker 4: Five minutes, make him pass. Make the guys who. He
[1:05:12] Speaker 4: averaged six over the year. Hey, let's see what he
[1:05:14] Speaker 4: can do.
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:05:16] Speaker 4: I just be thinking of like, y'all are still playing
[1:05:20] Speaker 4: the best players straight up.
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: One-on-one basketball. Crazy. With the game on the line. With
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: the game on the line. Never. And they've proven to
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: you time.
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: You got a large sample size to go with. They're
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: winning this match no matter who you put on them one-on-one.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: They are going to.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: Abuse that person. It's been proved throughout history. It ain't
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: just started, Gil. It ain't just started. It ain't just started.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: This shit, one-on-one with Larry Bird, one-on-one with Isaiah Thomas,
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: one-on-one with this.
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: You name it throughout history. No.
[1:05:56] Speaker 4: If I'm guarding Brunson, you're not taking no shots in
[1:06:02] Speaker 4: the last two minutes, bro.
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: Okay? You can have 10 assists. Cool.
[1:06:06] Speaker 4: Getting a shot up, the last person I want to
[1:06:10] Speaker 4: get a shot up will be you. You're not going
[1:06:12] Speaker 4: to sit there and manipulate, make my defender look all stupid.
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: As a kid when you miss you all as a
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: foul Redo like you redo the shooter. That's all they
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: were back.
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: Oh, did you be doing this thing?
[1:06:43] Speaker 3: All right, so one last thing we got to touch,
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: and then we will move on to the Magic Sixers game.
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: So Chris Paul had an unceremonious exit from the Clippers
[1:06:52] Speaker 3: in his final NBA season. CP3 showed there was no
[1:06:55] Speaker 3: love lost between him and his former team. After the game,
[1:06:59] Speaker 3: he posted the following story on his Instagram. Let's take
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: a look, if we can, please. For those who are unaware,
[1:07:05] Speaker 3: he was implying that he went to his biggest hater's
[1:07:08] Speaker 3: funeral just to make sure they were dead.
[1:07:11] Speaker 2: What?
[1:07:16] Speaker 5: Look, I ain't going to lie. He did get the
[1:07:18] Speaker 5: last laugh. He should have tapped him on the shoulder.
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: The last laugh ain't even. The last laugh ain't even. Hey,
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: you thought you was going to make the playoffs. He
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: definitely got to get his tap back. For sure, he
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: got to get his tap back. He don't got it yet. Huh?
[1:07:36] Speaker 4: That last laugh is going to come on. When the
[1:07:38] Speaker 4: ping pong ball started to hit.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: Oh, and OKC get fired.
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: Because he know that all that losing y'all asses did.
[1:07:44] Speaker 4: And them motherfuckers, they clip her second pick in the
[1:07:47] Speaker 4: NBA draft. If I'm Chris Ball, posting it.
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: Again. Oh, that hurt. They had to win.
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: A fashion boy number two, and you just sitting there like.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: So that's why they was fighting like that.
[1:08:07] Speaker 5: That's why I had a dream speech all year.
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: One day, we will get out of this playing. Yeah,
[1:08:14] Speaker 2: that shit bad.
[1:08:15] Speaker 4: So what's the lowest they can get at 15?
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: Four, no, because it's top 14, right, is the lottery.
[1:08:21] Speaker 5: So they get, do they have a first round pick?
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: I think it's 13 is the top lottery. No, top 14, yeah.
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: Top 13 is lottery and 14 is right, yeah, the
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: 14th pick.
[1:08:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the five teams from each conference that didn't
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: make the plan and then those four playing teams that didn't.
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's 13 picks. Yeah.
[1:08:39] Speaker 3: 14 in the lottery, but they can. So they can
[1:08:42] Speaker 3: get which pick? Shit, depending on how the ping pong
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: ball goes.
[1:08:45] Speaker 2: They got two first round picks? No, the one they
[1:08:47] Speaker 2: get to keep. Who? Clippers. I don't think they were
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: going to keep the pick either way, if I'm not tripping.
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: I think they traded their first round. This is the
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: Paul George trade. This is the last kind of remnants
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: of that Paul George trade. There's still a couple. The
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: Thunder flipped some of those picks. Some of those picks
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: are still lingering and have been flipped. Basically, it was
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: just making sure they didn't get even stronger in the
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: Western Conference.
[1:09:09] Speaker 5: Is there a way that all of them could play
[1:09:13] Speaker 5: on one team before they go?
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: Like Kawhi, Steph, KD's little... Listen. That would be crazy.
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: That would be hard. For real. Like Steph, Kawhi, LeBron, KD. No, like...
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: Were they going.
[1:09:27] Speaker 1: To the Vegas team? Were they going to.
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: The Vegas team?
[1:09:31] Speaker 5: How many years did KD get on his deal? In Houston,
[1:09:34] Speaker 5: he signed a new one? I think one or two.
[1:09:38] Speaker 9: That would be crazy.
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: Like, you throw Kawhi in here? A billionaire. KD has
[1:09:45] Speaker 2: another year player option next summer. Go get your Michael
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: Jordan on.
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: I play for the team I own.
[1:09:50] Speaker 2: That would be crazy. LeBron could do it this year
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: with Steph if he wanted. Just for the sake of
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: just the conversation, the basketball, the ball, you know what
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: I mean? That's all it is. People are like, oh,
[1:10:04] Speaker 2: not 88. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about.
[1:10:07] Speaker 2: We need that. Michael Jackson and Prince should have had
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: an album together, a song together. Y'all miss that. And basketball.
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: If they can play together.
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: Put all the old heads together.
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: They got the money. Them three put their money together.
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: Go buy the Las Vegas team and motherfucking go play.
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: Put all the old heads together and John Morant. One
[1:10:30] Speaker 3: YN with all the old heads.
[1:10:32] Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: But you need that. You need the YN to keep
[1:10:36] Speaker 3: them young and fresh.
[1:10:38] Speaker 2: And energetic. Try to go out there. 82-0 season. 82-0.
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: You think they can win it? They can win it.
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: That would have to be right now. No, no, no.
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: They can win it.
[1:10:49] Speaker 4: It all depends on whatever they bring. The rest of
[1:10:54] Speaker 4: the players they have with it.
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: No. Because they're going to have to play every other game.
[1:10:57] Speaker 1: You think Steph LeBron as a KD can win it
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: right now?
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: Sure. On what team? You just putting anybody? But the
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: thing I.
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: Did you just put anybody? Like just a bunch of randoms?
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: And Kawhi?
[1:11:09] Speaker 5: I said Steph, then Kawhi at the two.
[1:11:11] Speaker 2: You got KD or LeBron. How many games are they
[1:11:13] Speaker 2: all playing? LeBron at the four. They might play 20
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: games together. Yeah, they're going to play every other game.
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: That's the craziest.
[1:11:19] Speaker 1: They're going to have a baseball schedule. They're going to
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: play every pitcher's schedule. They're going to play every five days.
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: I was about to say, a.
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: Lot of niggas out. They're going to be.
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: A starting pitcher.
[1:11:29] Speaker 2: They play every five days.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: That would be crazy, though.
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: That would be crazy.
[1:11:33] Speaker 6: That jersey would be the highest selling jersey.
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: I'd buy every one of them.
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: It'd be the highest selling jersey ever.
[1:11:40] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's move on to the other playing
[1:11:42] Speaker 3: game last night. The Magic and Sixers met in Philly
[1:11:45] Speaker 3: in the 7A play-in with the winner moving on to
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: face the second seeded Celtics, Philly without former MVP Joel
[1:11:51] Speaker 3: Embiid still recovering from an emergency appendectomy he underwent. While
[1:11:55] Speaker 3: the Magic were trying to get back on the right
[1:11:57] Speaker 3: track after tricking off their final game of the regular
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: season against the Celtics reserves, which cost them home court
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: advantage in this game. So we pick up the action
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: in the second half of this one. Game got a
[1:12:10] Speaker 3: little chippy midway through the third quarter. Vijay Edgecombe got
[1:12:13] Speaker 3: a bucket over Jalen Suggs, put the Sixers up 11.
[1:12:17] Speaker 3: and proceeded to get in Sugg's face. Both teams had
[1:12:19] Speaker 3: to be separated after the play with Edgecombe getting a
[1:12:22] Speaker 3: taunting foul.
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: Desmond Vane. Yeah, man. Vane was playing well.
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: He can play, man. I liked him in Memphis.
[1:12:32] Speaker 3: So Tyrese Maxey held it down for Philly. He had
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: 31 points and six assists in 42 minutes. Edgecombe 19
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: and 11 rebounds. Desmond Bay.
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: He defend. I like him. 34 points. Bruh. I like him.
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: For the Magic team.
[1:12:45] Speaker 4: He talking about a player who don't need no pick?
[1:12:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. Look how fast they move.
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: Paolo Bancaro and Franz Wagner both struggled in this one.
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: Bancaro finished with 18 points. 7 of 22 shooting. Game
[1:12:57] Speaker 3: by 6 turnovers. Wagner had 12 points in 29 minutes.
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: The Magic kept things interesting in the fourth quarter cutting.
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: The deficit was as low as 3 points. But Maxie
[1:13:07] Speaker 3: scored 11 in the final frame.
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: He's still holding his own. He's still holding his own.
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: Andre Drummond filled the void for Embiid. Had a double-double.
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: 14 and 10 hit that.
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: He made two threes last night.
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: Hit that final three to put the nail in the coffin.
[1:13:23] Speaker 2: That's what hard, listen.
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: I know I talk shit about it, like he had
[1:13:26] Speaker 1: to shoot threes and all that, but that's what hard
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: work is, man. Right, he used to be the foul guy. No,
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: he couldn't shoot free throws. Like, he on that all-time
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: worst free throw shooter list. For him out there, motherfuckers
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: shooting three. Shout out to Andre Drummond, man, putting that
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: time in, man.
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: Shout out to Andre Drummond. So, your biggest takeaways from
[1:13:46] Speaker 3: the Sixers play-in win over the Orlando Magic.
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: I don't know a game y'all was watching, man. I
[1:14:08] Speaker 2: don't know a game y'all.
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: Was watching, man.
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: I'll try to see what type of commercial they was
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: going to have at this. This one just came out.
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: It's like free. With this game? Yeah, it was. Like,
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: who y'all think was going to be? You didn't think
[1:14:21] Speaker 2: Orlando had a chance? No. No. They had like a … Yeah.
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: I didn't pick yesterday.
[1:14:27] Speaker 4: They haven't had a chance since that Cleveland.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Series two years ago. They had a Colin Clance commercial, too. Yeah,
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: I know. I seen it. Nothing wrong with getting your
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: calling clear.
[1:14:36] Speaker 9: You thought Orlando had a chance with Paulo?
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: He picked Orlando.
[1:14:41] Speaker 5: I'm so disappointed in Pablo and Wagner. They took a
[1:14:45] Speaker 5: step back from me this year.
[1:14:46] Speaker 6: Yeah, you know he's one of the worst shooters in
[1:14:48] Speaker 6: the NBA outside the paint.
[1:14:50] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: Paulo.
[1:14:52] Speaker 2: No, man.
[1:14:53] Speaker 5: He was on his projector to be like one of
[1:14:55] Speaker 5: these K's and Ant-Man's. He took a step back this
[1:15:00] Speaker 5: year to me. Just because you get picked number.
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: One, don't But he's been averaging 20 each year. I
[1:15:04] Speaker 2: understand that.
[1:15:05] Speaker 9: And he's one of the worst shooters in the NBA
[1:15:07] Speaker 9: outside the paint.
[1:15:09] Speaker 2: He's solid. Orlando to the playoffs two years in a row.
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: I got a better question for you, Nick. Is he
[1:15:14] Speaker 1: a number one, though? Like, solid NBA player. Is he
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: a number one?
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:15:18] Speaker 5: Yeah?
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: I think so.
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:15:21] Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I don't. But I
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: think they struggle with.
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: He a better number one than Jalen Brown? Him and
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: Wilson ain't the same player, though. I think they struggle
[1:15:30] Speaker 1: with that. They're the same player.
[1:15:30] Speaker 5: That's why they got to make their mind up. Is
[1:15:32] Speaker 5: it Wagner or is it Powell?
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: They're the same guy. So that's what I mean. They
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: find who's number one, but they're not. I don't think
[1:15:38] Speaker 2: neither one of them are number one. They're not. I
[1:15:42] Speaker 2: think they really good. It's a.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: If either one of them had a Tyrese Maxey or
[1:15:48] Speaker 1: somebody else on there, listen.
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: There you go. Or a young dog, a John Morant. Yeah,
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: for sure.
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: Give me a John Morant with one of them or
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: a Tyrese Maxey or Jalen Brunson or one of them.
[1:16:01] Speaker 5: I would draft Pablo if I.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're going to draft him.
[1:16:06] Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
[1:16:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, because the skills. Yeah, I was about to say. 16,
[1:16:09] Speaker 2: do what he do.
[1:16:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think like right now what they
[1:16:14] Speaker 1: are now. I don't think he's a number. Listen, you
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: can do whatever you want to it. Because you can
[1:16:19] Speaker 1: put him at the three to four. He's a matchup problem.
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: But you need somebody else. Him and them do the
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: same thing. They're the same person. You didn't think they
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: was going to be better than this?
[1:16:30] Speaker 5: Did you think Pablo was going to take that step
[1:16:32] Speaker 5: this year?
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: I thought so. I thought he was.
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: It was last year.
[1:16:35] Speaker 2: The Magic had been hustling backwards on Swaggy. But this year, no.
[1:16:38] Speaker 2: That step was last year. They finished fifth, 24, took
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: the cap to seven. That step would have been last year.
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: If you look at his, okay, so if you look
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: at him from his rookie season.
[1:16:46] Speaker 4: Right, he came out like a Tim Duncan came out, right?
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: You're like, okay, we got something here. What year is
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: this for? This is fourth. Okay. Right?
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: You haven't seen the big jump, like that year three
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: to four.
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Right?
[1:17:03] Speaker 4: So when you sit there and it's like, okay, this
[1:17:05] Speaker 4: year you kind of took a step back from last year.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: What is it, right?
[1:17:10] Speaker 4: Your jumper hasn't gotten better, but you're still trying to,
[1:17:13] Speaker 4: you know, get to that right year. Like, You're gonna drive,
[1:17:16] Speaker 4: you're gonna put the ball on the ground.
[1:17:17] Speaker 2: You're not as fast as we would hope. So you
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: need a guard.
[1:17:24] Speaker 4: You need someone who can really get their own thing.
[1:17:27] Speaker 4: Like Desmond's gonna do his thing, but.
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: He's not the guard that's gonna put pressure to relieve you.
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: Like Tim.
[1:17:36] Speaker 4: Tim Duncan's going to be great, but you do need
[1:17:39] Speaker 4: a Ginobili and a Tony Parker because if they cheat
[1:17:43] Speaker 4: too much guarding you, they're going to take advantage of it.
[1:17:46] Speaker 4: So you sit there and you try to overhelp. Tony's
[1:17:48] Speaker 4: coming through with the spin. Ginobili's splitting. So it made
[1:17:51] Speaker 4: everyone still play honest. No one has to play honest
[1:17:55] Speaker 4: with everybody else because if you're the go-to guy, you're
[1:17:59] Speaker 4: very limited at the things you do. So you need
[1:18:02] Speaker 4: someone to really help your game evolve to that next
[1:18:06] Speaker 4: step if you can't.
[1:18:07] Speaker 2: Do it yourself. And this NBA is a lot of what, Nick?
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: Pick and roll. Pick and roll, yeah, for sure, for sure.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: You're putting the ball in his hand trying to create mismatches.
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: There's no mismatch that you're creating with him with the
[1:18:18] Speaker 1: ball in his hand, right? So you run a pick
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: and roll with him and Wendell Carter, him and Vaughn's wife.
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: We're just switching it, right? You're not creating any mismatches
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: or getting... You're just not. Desmond Bain is his spot-up shooter, right?
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: You're putting the ball in his hands to do what? Yeah,
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: and that's what he did in Memphis, right? You had Jai,
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: you had Jaron Jackson, and now you got him, right?
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: I think the same dynamic is needed. You just replace
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson with Paulo. Now you need a guard. that
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: can go do his thing with him, right? You put
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: him with a Devon book or somebody that can go
[1:18:55] Speaker 1: get one tip different player because the ball is in
[1:18:58] Speaker 1: different places now and now he's not the number one.
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: I'm just.
[1:19:04] Speaker 4: Like them two? I can't get rid of my two
[1:19:09] Speaker 4: bigs because I can play. They can do whatever. They
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: can play two, three, four. I don't know if Kobe
[1:19:18] Speaker 4: White is a free agent. I'm going after that.
[1:19:20] Speaker 2: It'll be available.
[1:19:23] Speaker 4: If I can't get a big, the best guard I
[1:19:25] Speaker 4: can possibly.
[1:19:26] Speaker 1: Get in Chicago is Kobe White. Him, Darius Garland, one
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: of them dudes, man. Wait, you said you're not trading
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: none of your bigs? So, Paul on them, you keep?
[1:19:39] Speaker 2: Paul on Wagner, I'm keeping. I got to. I'm keeping because.
[1:19:42] Speaker 4: If I can get a guard that can do his thing,
[1:19:45] Speaker 4: I got the best.
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: I got a Jalen Brown. I got an option two.
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: I got an option two.
[1:19:50] Speaker 4: That's going to give me 20-something, and he can move
[1:19:53] Speaker 4: like an option one. So right now, Apollo's option one
[1:19:57] Speaker 4: in his game, averaging 26. Hell yeah, I take it
[1:19:59] Speaker 4: every time. But I'm not going to get rid of
[1:20:01] Speaker 4: one of them to do what? If you had to.
[1:20:03] Speaker 2: Get rid of one of them, who would you get
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: rid of? France. Because I feel.
[1:20:08] Speaker 5: Like they're young and they fight for that number one.
[1:20:11] Speaker 5: Because some days it'll be like Wagner the 1A.
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: I think I can get something for Wagner. I think
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: I can move a few pieces. For sure. If I'm picking, right? Yeah,
[1:20:21] Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I'm keeping Fowler.
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: If Ron's hurt this year, do they have a lot
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: of repickings?
[1:20:27] Speaker 3: There's some janky shit. I'm looking right now. I think
[1:20:29] Speaker 3: they own their pick, but it's something.
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: They both 24.
[1:20:32] Speaker 4: This is just Boston all over.
[1:20:34] Speaker 1: No, don't do that. That's what I'm saying.
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: Everybody's not. No, they are, though.
[1:20:38] Speaker 4: No, what I mean by it is I have two
[1:20:41] Speaker 4: positions that can play, alter each other.
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: They play well together. That part of it. They're both
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: about 23 to 24. I'm not trading him. But are
[1:20:49] Speaker 2: they going to? I'm not.
[1:20:51] Speaker 9: Okay, but the thing is, who's number one? Are they
[1:20:53] Speaker 9: going to?
[1:20:53] Speaker 4: Both of y'all ain't number one.
[1:20:56] Speaker 2: Neither one of them is. But that's what I feel like.
[1:20:58] Speaker 2: I'm going to go five.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: Is that why it's a problem?
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: Yes. That's what I feel like.
[1:21:01] Speaker 9: Okay, so how do we fix the problem?
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: We need another guy. I don't need a number one.
[1:21:07] Speaker 2: We need a guy. I need a guy at the
[1:21:09] Speaker 2: end of the game. Yeah, we need a guy.
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:21:11] Speaker 2: People didn't realize.
[1:21:12] Speaker 9: But you don't think they want to be the guy
[1:21:14] Speaker 9: at the end of the season?
[1:21:15] Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy. I know what
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: you want to be.
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: What you want to be is one thing, and what's
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: best for us is something totally different, right?
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: Trust me.
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: Something totally different, what we're trying to do around here.
[1:21:27] Speaker 5: Orlando coming in this season, they was top five.
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett, right? Okay. People didn't realize at the end
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: of the game, he was a great passer, right? He
[1:21:42] Speaker 2: passed the ball. He was too unselfish when it mattered.
[1:21:47] Speaker 4: What made him great and when he moved forward is
[1:21:51] Speaker 4: bringing an old ass Sam Cassell.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: Who takes shots at the end of the game.
[1:21:59] Speaker 4: So an old Sam Cassell gets to average 20 being
[1:22:04] Speaker 4: with him.
[1:22:06] Speaker 1: Gets to take all.
[1:22:06] Speaker 4: The shots at the end of the game, which then
[1:22:09] Speaker 4: relieved KG. Because KG, you're going to double at the
[1:22:12] Speaker 4: end of the game. And he's going to make that pass.
[1:22:14] Speaker 4: Now you can't double because Sam Cassell is going to
[1:22:16] Speaker 4: hit those shots. And he's going to take those shots.
[1:22:19] Speaker 4: So if you look at Sam Cassell, his only all-star,
[1:22:23] Speaker 4: averaging 20, is with KG because Sam Cassell got to
[1:22:28] Speaker 4: be the number one option at the end of the game.
[1:22:31] Speaker 4: And then that's when it took that leap. Same thing
[1:22:34] Speaker 4: that needs to happen here. You don't necessarily need a
[1:22:37] Speaker 4: number one guy. You just need a guy who moves
[1:22:40] Speaker 4: like a number one in these last few minutes.
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a Kobe White. That's a Garland. Yeah, that's them, right? Okay, okay.
[1:22:48] Speaker 2: Second team All-NBA. That means second team All-NBA. Are they
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: looking for a new coach?
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: Give me a motherfucking Derek White. Hey, you can go
[1:22:55] Speaker 1: give me a Derek White and he'll run the show.
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Somebody like that. You got 2.0
[1:22:59] Speaker 2: Derek White. They looking for a new coach.
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: Are they looking for a new coach? Who?
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: Orlando.
[1:23:03] Speaker 9: So there's some reports of turmoil with the Magic team.
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: And a star player, so I don't, I mean, if
[1:23:13] Speaker 2: you look at that roster. There's only one star player.
[1:23:15] Speaker 3: There's not very many of those there, but.
[1:23:18] Speaker 4: Who?
[1:23:19] Speaker 3: With Jamal Moseley, that's just a report. And according to reports,
[1:23:22] Speaker 3: no matter what happens.
[1:23:23] Speaker 2: He's fired. Jamal Moseley is going to be out the door.
[1:23:27] Speaker 2: I cannot confirm nor deny that as a report.
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: But again, it's not him.
[1:23:31] Speaker 4: I mean, unless they don't, unless those players don't want him,
[1:23:33] Speaker 4: it's not him. You got to, as a general manager,
[1:23:37] Speaker 4: you got to know what you have. Mm-hmm. So you
[1:23:40] Speaker 4: know what to go get. There's only a few real
[1:23:44] Speaker 4: basketball minds that know what they're picking.
[1:23:47] Speaker 2: They know what they're looking at. Right? You know what
[1:23:50] Speaker 2: you're doing.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: Shout out John Hammond.
[1:23:53] Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get it right. I think you could
[1:23:55] Speaker 2: trade Wagner and get like... They got some good young
[1:23:58] Speaker 2: pieces though. They got Suggs, Anthony Black. I mean, they've
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: got some guys that.
[1:24:02] Speaker 5: Would you be able to trade like Wagner and Derek
[1:24:06] Speaker 5: White 2.0 and probably somebody else for....
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: John Morant, like you couldn't do that? I could. Do
[1:24:15] Speaker 2: you want to do that?
[1:24:17] Speaker 4: Or I can see where Kobe White is in the
[1:24:20] Speaker 4: free agency market, and I can just sign him as
[1:24:22] Speaker 4: a free agent and keep my four and five because
[1:24:25] Speaker 4: they're only 23 and 24, so I can.
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: See what they're going to look like at 27. I'm
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: all in on Kobe.
[1:24:28] Speaker 4: Listen, he will be like, they will be like, yo.
[1:24:37] Speaker 4: Is he an all-star? That's that move. He's no different.
[1:24:41] Speaker 2: Than Powell going to Miami, right?
[1:24:44] Speaker 4: Where you're like, yo. He could be an all-star right
[1:24:48] Speaker 4: here because he's going to have everything he needs. And
[1:24:51] Speaker 4: then he gets the floor. We can see your tendencies
[1:24:53] Speaker 4: at the end of the game.
[1:24:55] Speaker 2: You are a gamer.
[1:24:56] Speaker 4: You are a bucket hitter.
[1:24:58] Speaker 2: With these two, you get to do that again. I
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: need a point guard.
[1:25:03] Speaker 4: Nah, you need a point guard. A regular-ass point guard.
[1:25:07] Speaker 4: You don't need a Kobe White. Yeah, the ball's going
[1:25:10] Speaker 4: to be in that man's hand.
[1:25:11] Speaker 5: No.
[1:25:12] Speaker 2: You need a Derrick Fisher.
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: They got one over there.
[1:25:15] Speaker 2: I need a younger Derrick Fisher.
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: They got a lefty over there.
[1:25:22] Speaker 2: Connie was a.
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: True point guard that has to just shoot corner threes.
[1:25:26] Speaker 4: That's why that man get double teamed. Have you ever
[1:25:30] Speaker 4: noticed the shooting guards from the eras? Jordan, who was
[1:25:34] Speaker 4: this point guard?
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: But it's a different time. Just sit your ass in
[1:25:37] Speaker 2: that corner and hit a shot. It's different times.
[1:25:39] Speaker 4: Kobe, who is all Kobe's point guards, sit your ass
[1:25:42] Speaker 4: in that corner. Same thing with LeBron James's. Kobe also
[1:25:47] Speaker 4: had a 16-point guard. But I want the ball in
[1:25:50] Speaker 4: my best player's hand. So the ball is going to
[1:25:53] Speaker 4: be in the Jordan, as a majority of the time.
[1:25:55] Speaker 4: So I don't need a guy out there playing Chris Paul.
[1:25:57] Speaker 4: Sit your ass in that corner. When Steve Nash got there,
[1:26:00] Speaker 4: when Steve Nash got there, and Kobe got to.
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: Sit around and he's sitting there like, It's a different time.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: What offense you running?
[1:26:07] Speaker 5: It's a different time.
[1:26:09] Speaker 2: It's a different time. It was? It's a different time now.
[1:26:14] Speaker 5: Star power in this era, I feel like. I need
[1:26:16] Speaker 5: my best player to have the ball. Minnesota needs to
[1:26:18] Speaker 5: go get Fox.
[1:26:19] Speaker 2: No, no, no. I need the ball in my best player.
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: Go get Fox. I need the ball in my best
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: player's hands. Yes. Yeah. That's always been this game. I'm
[1:26:28] Speaker 2: going to get it.
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: I need somebody that knows where the ball needs to
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: go when the ball needs to go there. Right? I
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: need somebody that knows time, score, situation, and make a
[1:26:41] Speaker 1: corner three.
[1:26:42] Speaker 2: You got Bones Highland? Bones Highland want to score too. Amen.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Swing it.
[1:26:48] Speaker 5: They going to be second round exit, first round exit
[1:26:55] Speaker 5: until they get another star out there in Minnesota. In
[1:27:00] Speaker 5: this era, there's a lot of star power in this era.
[1:27:03] Speaker 2: They have a weird team. That's what I'm saying. There's
[1:27:06] Speaker 2: a lot of star power in this era.
[1:27:07] Speaker 4: Minnesota got a weird team because they have good-ass pieces
[1:27:14] Speaker 4: that have.
[1:27:18] Speaker 1: Accolades.
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: I know what I'm going to get. I'm going to
[1:27:21] Speaker 4: get a top two defensive player in Rudy. Don't know
[1:27:25] Speaker 4: what it's going to be, but I know he's going
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: to be ranked. One, two, or three, right? I know
[1:27:29] Speaker 4: I'm going to get that. I'm going to get Ant-Man.
[1:27:30] Speaker 4: Ant-Man's going to do it. Julius Randle, he's going to
[1:27:33] Speaker 4: give me 20. Then I got defensive players, that little hybrid.
[1:27:36] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[1:27:37] Speaker 4: But I'm not getting it done.
[1:27:39] Speaker 2: You need a bucket.
[1:27:40] Speaker 4: It's because you need to either go defense or got
[1:27:44] Speaker 4: to go offense, right? You're sitting in this middle ground.
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: So either you got to get rid of Julius and
[1:27:50] Speaker 4: get someone who can play Not a better side of basketball,
[1:27:57] Speaker 4: but needs to put more production inside the game, right?
[1:28:00] Speaker 4: Your 20 points is usually 20 points. And it's going
[1:28:03] Speaker 4: to be a one-on-one 20 points. It's going to be
[1:28:06] Speaker 4: a 1990s 20 points. It ain't going to.
[1:28:09] Speaker 2: Be an offense. It's going to be like, all right,
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: instead of swinging and swinging it. The ball stopper.
[1:28:13] Speaker 1: The swing and swing. He's a good ball stopper.
[1:28:16] Speaker 2: He's a good ball stopper. I love what that's saying.
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: But I don't need it on.
[1:28:19] Speaker 2: He like a Kobe White. That relieves pressure.
[1:28:23] Speaker 4: No, it's the same thing. It don't matter who I got.
[1:28:25] Speaker 4: If it gets to Julius, it's going to stop. It
[1:28:28] Speaker 4: don't matter where.
[1:28:29] Speaker 1: Because he got to massage that thing in order to
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: get his shit off. He got to massage it.
[1:28:33] Speaker 2: He got to massage it. Ain't that the main thing?
[1:28:36] Speaker 2: Hold on now. They double team now. And then you
[1:28:41] Speaker 2: throw it to Julius. But he can't really, he can score,
[1:28:45] Speaker 2: but he's not a carrier to the team.
[1:28:48] Speaker 4: You doubled him. I pass it to Julius. The three
[1:28:51] Speaker 4: is open.
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: What did Melo become because they said it was a problem?
[1:28:56] Speaker 1: Catch and shoot guy, right? He had to become a
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: catch and shoot guy in order to stick around. Because
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: it was the same. I gotta, listen, in order for
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: me to be Melo, I gotta be able to jab, step,
[1:29:08] Speaker 1: and motherfucking, I gotta, same thing with Julius Randle. I
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: gotta be able to put this body on your body,
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: and I gotta be able, you know what I'm saying? Like,
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: I gotta be able to get to this motherfucking left. Like, really, like,
[1:29:19] Speaker 1: elite at it. Melo was elite at it when he
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: was doing it, of course. Julius Randle's a really good,
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: But I do what he do, but.
[1:29:26] Speaker 2: It's take his time. I got it. Hey, I got you.
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: Back to back Western Conference finals. No, I get it.
[1:29:32] Speaker 2: But our two and a thing.
[1:29:33] Speaker 4: But the reason they don't get over the top is
[1:29:34] Speaker 4: because there's just plays in games. If you just look
[1:29:38] Speaker 4: at series, there's plays in games that are made that.
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: Takes you over the top.
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: That extra swing, like, you know what I mean? Like Steph, right?
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: Got that switch before, didn't do nothing with it.
[1:29:51] Speaker 4: Then boom, like, there's plays that need to be made
[1:29:54] Speaker 4: that's unselfish. And it's not made.
[1:30:01] Speaker 2: When you need them to be made.
[1:30:03] Speaker 4: Sometimes to get your 20... you got to give up the.
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: Ball a couple more times. I swing it.
[1:30:10] Speaker 4: There's this swing and I see a guy over there.
[1:30:13] Speaker 4: They came hard here. Let me throw it there. Let
[1:30:16] Speaker 4: him shoot the ball. So next time it happens, this
[1:30:18] Speaker 4: guy stunts to go run there.
[1:30:19] Speaker 2: Now I get to shoot this.
[1:30:21] Speaker 4: You have to give up five points to get ten.
[1:30:23] Speaker 4: Play the game within the game. Like Draymond Green can
[1:30:32] Speaker 4: get any three he wants at any time because he's
[1:30:35] Speaker 4: been past the ball so much in this game. He
[1:30:40] Speaker 4: can take 10 wide open threes. He can make eight
[1:30:43] Speaker 4: in a row. They still going to.
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: Give him the next two. Backpack shot.
[1:30:47] Speaker 1: They still going to give him the next two.
[1:30:48] Speaker 2: You know why?
[1:30:50] Speaker 1: Because they know he.
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: Going to do this.
[1:30:54] Speaker 1: Dribble handoff.
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: They know he's going to do it. He's programmed to
[1:30:58] Speaker 2: do that. He's crazy. He's programmed. It's just what it is, man.
[1:31:01] Speaker 2: You need glue guys. You need glue guys. They don't
[1:31:05] Speaker 2: have a glue guy on the team. He sacrificed everything.
[1:31:09] Speaker 3: I love that a conversation about the Magic Sixers playing
[1:31:12] Speaker 3: game shifted to a Timberwolves conversation.
[1:31:13] Speaker 2: I understand.
[1:31:14] Speaker 1: Don't go back to Philly.
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: Don't go back to talking about Philly. Philly? Your home's
[1:31:23] Speaker 2: to Bel Air. We have left field. Your home's to
[1:31:26] Speaker 2: Bel Air. To play who? Without Joel?
[1:31:30] Speaker 5: All they got to do is trade Joel.
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: Without Joel? That lineup is nice.
[1:31:33] Speaker 5: So you're talking about they got a chance right now,
[1:31:36] Speaker 5: but you want them to trade him.
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: First of all. But don't they have history of beef, though,
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: Boston and field?
[1:31:42] Speaker 1: No, that's not a history of beef. Joel plays in
[1:31:44] Speaker 1: those games.
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is history. No, it's not.
[1:31:47] Speaker 3: It's history.
[1:31:48] Speaker 1: No, it's not history. If getting your ass whooped every
[1:31:51] Speaker 1: time I see you is history.
[1:31:53] Speaker 2: But did it go seven? I don't give a fuck
[1:31:54] Speaker 2: what it went. Have they beat him yet? No. That
[1:31:58] Speaker 2: was when he was healthy.
[1:31:59] Speaker 1: In order for it to be a rivalry, the other
[1:32:01] Speaker 1: team got to win some.
[1:32:02] Speaker 2: They matched up good. No, they don't.
[1:32:04] Speaker 1: They ain't matched up.
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: Paul George, Jason Tatum, similar. You got a bunch of
[1:32:10] Speaker 2: long people. They had Jimmy Butler. They had Jimmy Butler.
[1:32:13] Speaker 2: They had Ben Simmons.
[1:32:14] Speaker 1: They done had everybody trying to run up in Boston.
[1:32:16] Speaker 2: Got their head beat in every single time. Get on back.
[1:32:21] Speaker 4: That's why the meeting process is still processing.
[1:32:24] Speaker 2: That lineup matches up. You don't do Jimmy Butler. Ben Simmons.
[1:32:31] Speaker 2: The defense of Ben Simmons. The real Ben Simmons.
[1:32:33] Speaker 1: The first team all defense Ben Simmons.
[1:32:36] Speaker 2: They done had all that going into Boston. Ben Simmons
[1:32:38] Speaker 2: don't score though. Ben? Ben? But you got a janky leg, Tatum.
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: What you mean?
[1:32:45] Speaker 2: Tatum's big.
[1:32:46] Speaker 4: Philly got a guy with penicillitis, gingivitis, monocitis.
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: He got all the cytuses.
[1:32:53] Speaker 5: It's time to get ready.
[1:32:55] Speaker 2: He got all the cytuses. He going to divide it. Well,
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: let's leave Philly and we'll head over to Ballet. You
[1:33:03] Speaker 2: know what's so funny? You know what's so funny?
[1:33:07] Speaker 4: I understand what Philly's going through. Because as much as
[1:33:13] Speaker 4: I would want to trade them, I don't think I can.
[1:33:17] Speaker 4: I don't think I would be able to be on
[1:33:19] Speaker 4: the phone and then have a conversation of trading them.
[1:33:23] Speaker 2: You're like, if you're going.
[1:33:25] Speaker 4: To go down, you're going to go down the hill.
[1:33:29] Speaker 4: I ain't going to let you leave and go have
[1:33:31] Speaker 4: a better life. No, you're going to take my cheating ways.
[1:33:36] Speaker 4: You're not going to go with another man.
[1:33:38] Speaker 2: He's going to treat you good. Sit your ass down.
[1:33:39] Speaker 1: Hey, baby, I'm sorry.
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: I'll do everything you need me to do. You don't
[1:33:43] Speaker 2: want to be there no more.
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to ride this one out, brother.
[1:33:49] Speaker 5: You're going to ride this one out, brother.
[1:33:52] Speaker 2: I know this shit rough. Hey, put your seatbelt on, goddammit. Shit,
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: we've been riding with you.
[1:33:56] Speaker 1: You've been driving.
[1:33:57] Speaker 2: Move over, goddammit. Put your seatbelt on.
[1:34:01] Speaker 1: Get comfortable. This is going to be a fast, rough ride,
[1:34:04] Speaker 1: young fella. I've been training everybody for you. Max is
[1:34:06] Speaker 1: driving this bitch now. It's going to be a fast,
[1:34:08] Speaker 1: rough ride, dammit. It's going to be fast.
[1:34:10] Speaker 2: It's going to be fast. They're going to be moving.
[1:34:12] Speaker 3: Let's keep this thing moving. We got some breaking news.
[1:34:16] Speaker 3: Coming from Shams. So the NBA, NBPA have ruled in
[1:34:20] Speaker 3: favor of Luka Doncic and Cade Cunningham on their Extraordinary
[1:34:24] Speaker 3: Circumstances Challenge for the 65-game award rule, making both eligible
[1:34:31] Speaker 3: for all 2025-2026 season honors, including MVP and all NBA teams.
[1:34:37] Speaker 3: Luka appeared in 64 games, won his second scoring title
[1:34:40] Speaker 3: average in 34 points, 8 assists, 8 rebounds, Slovenian Jesus
[1:34:45] Speaker 3: missed two games back in December to travel to his
[1:34:47] Speaker 3: homeland for the birth of his daughter and missed the
[1:34:50] Speaker 3: final five games of the regular season with a hamstring
[1:34:52] Speaker 3: injury he suffered against the Thunder. Cade appeared in 64 games,
[1:34:56] Speaker 3: averaged 24 points, 10 assists, and six rebounds, helping Detroit
[1:34:59] Speaker 3: take the top spot in the East and reach 60
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: wins for the first time since 2006. Cunningham missed 11
[1:35:04] Speaker 3: games after suffering a collapsed lung early in the game
[1:35:07] Speaker 3: against the Wizards on March 17th, but returned faster than
[1:35:10] Speaker 3: expected for the Pistons' final three games. of the regular season.
[1:35:13] Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards played a 61 game this season. Also filed
[1:35:17] Speaker 3: a challenge. His case was advanced to an independent arbitrator.
[1:35:21] Speaker 2: That's crazy. Denied. I hate the black man. So he's
[1:35:24] Speaker 2: not eligible for a war. I hate the black man.
[1:35:27] Speaker 2: I hate the black man. He had a dream too.
[1:35:30] Speaker 2: He filed it wrong.
[1:35:32] Speaker 1: He had a dream.
[1:35:32] Speaker 2: No. If he would have had 64 games, he would
[1:35:34] Speaker 2: have had a better chance. He had 61.
[1:35:35] Speaker 10: He got his runner's knee. Runners Knee. What the fuck
[1:35:45] Speaker 10: is Runners Knee, man?
[1:35:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that? Jumpers Knee, they probably just changed it.
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: Did they change the name of it?
[1:35:51] Speaker 1: That's what it has to be. I think they gotta be.
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: How many games he got?
[1:35:57] Speaker 4: 61?
[1:35:57] Speaker 5: But one of them games he played like 15 minutes,
[1:36:00] Speaker 5: so they didn't count it.
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: You get two 15 to 20 minute games.
[1:36:03] Speaker 5: Just He's got two of those.
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: This shit is too confusing.
[1:36:09] Speaker 3: Wimby played 64, but he played the NBA Cup Championship.
[1:36:12] Speaker 3: Those stats and that game don't count for the regular season,
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: but the game count.
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: Listen, I'm sure they'll figure it out by next year.
[1:36:17] Speaker 2: They're going to have to.
[1:36:18] Speaker 1: They'll figure it out by next year.
[1:36:20] Speaker 3: But Gil, what's your reaction to the league ruling in
[1:36:22] Speaker 3: favor of Luka and Cade Cunningham allowing them both to
[1:36:25] Speaker 3: be eligible for all NBA teams this season?
[1:36:28] Speaker 2: I love it. I love the idea of flexibility, right?
[1:36:33] Speaker 2: You're putting something on to the players. And the idea of.
[1:36:41] Speaker 4: You have first-team all-NBA players in these performances, and they
[1:36:47] Speaker 4: miss this, and the person that's going to replace them
[1:36:51] Speaker 4: is not in the same category. That is a hard
[1:36:55] Speaker 4: pill to swallow for an athlete.
[1:36:58] Speaker 2: I missed it by one game.
[1:37:00] Speaker 4: I'm leading the league in scoring. Now number two gets
[1:37:03] Speaker 4: to be number one. Because he played one more game.
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: It's just one of those things where.
[1:37:09] Speaker 4: That 65 and that 64, it can be just.
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: Black and white.
[1:37:15] Speaker 4: So I'm glad they used the gray area here and
[1:37:18] Speaker 4: found a way to make it right so everything kind
[1:37:22] Speaker 4: of falls in line. Because you've got to remember, with
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: so many people out, these are first-teamers. We're not talking
[1:37:29] Speaker 4: about the third team.
[1:37:30] Speaker 2: We're talking about the first team.
[1:37:32] Speaker 4: That means people are getting awards that they didn't earn.
[1:37:36] Speaker 2: They really didn't earn.
[1:37:38] Speaker 4: I can get it over you and I just have
[1:37:40] Speaker 4: one game, but your stats are just dominating mine. We
[1:37:45] Speaker 4: were on the same planet and I just didn't like
[1:37:48] Speaker 4: the idea. I appreciate that they made an adjustment. Because
[1:37:58] Speaker 4: to me, like, when I first heard about it, and,
[1:38:01] Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I jump into owner's standpoint.
[1:38:05] Speaker 4: Do I like it or not? How does this benefit me?
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: How can I rip off Mo Black?
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: I want to, you know what I mean? Well, you
[1:38:10] Speaker 2: like it when it benefits you. No, like, I'm just
[1:38:12] Speaker 2: trying to.
[1:38:12] Speaker 4: Figure out, like, so that's how I think, like, okay,
[1:38:15] Speaker 4: how can this benefit me? Because, obviously, that's what I
[1:38:18] Speaker 4: want as an owner, right? And it's little things like this.
[1:38:22] Speaker 4: I'm going to sit you out a little bit longer, If.
[1:38:26] Speaker 2: I don't want you to get this super max, I got.
[1:38:28] Speaker 4: To do things behind the scene to make sure you
[1:38:30] Speaker 4: don't get it. That will be my stance. But not
[1:38:34] Speaker 4: in this case, though. Not with them. You want to
[1:38:36] Speaker 4: sign them for whatever.
[1:38:37] Speaker 5: No, no, no.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: I'm not saying. I'm not saying.
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: Them two are exempt.
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: Them two are exempt. That's what I'm talking about, though.
[1:38:44] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:38:44] Speaker 2: Because now you're talking about someone like Durin. That was
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: my point.
[1:38:48] Speaker 3: So this move actually helps the Pistons. Cade already got
[1:38:50] Speaker 3: his bread. He's going to make the All-NBA team. Durin
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: was kind of one of those fringe guys. potentially be
[1:38:55] Speaker 3: able to make a third team with those two now
[1:38:57] Speaker 3: making it seems like he has a potential to get
[1:38:59] Speaker 3: pushed out but yeah but that's.
[1:39:00] Speaker 4: The thing he could he could possibly get pushed out
[1:39:03] Speaker 4: first now you're gonna have the same thing with with
[1:39:05] Speaker 4: uh memphis had you got jaron jack i mean uh
[1:39:08] Speaker 4: you got you got during making the team now he
[1:39:10] Speaker 4: unlocks supermax but now is he a supermax.
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: Player still gonna get 220 to But I don't but
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: the problem first team I don't that's the thing I
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: don't want.
[1:39:19] Speaker 4: You argue for 350 and you pushing that number and
[1:39:21] Speaker 4: I'm sitting here trying to make a decision now Ant-Man
[1:39:23] Speaker 4: should have made it to his third leading scorer in
[1:39:26] Speaker 4: the NBA 61 games 61 games.
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: But there's no insinuating circumstances that he had to deal with.
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: Right? Trust me. Go look.
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: No, no, no. Go look how many games. Are there
[1:39:51] Speaker 1: some games before he had runner's knee, right? Are there
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: some games before he had runner's knee that he set out?
[1:39:57] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: Are there some games? I haven't looked. But I'm not
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: talking about that. I'm talking about this year right here, Nick.
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: This season right here. Are there some games that he
[1:40:09] Speaker 1: could have played that he didn't play. If there are,
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: you have to, so that's my thing with it, right?
[1:40:18] Speaker 1: So we talked about this before, right? If you're available
[1:40:20] Speaker 1: to play, play. Because at any given time, something can happen.
[1:40:26] Speaker 1: Kay Cunningham, collapse your lung.
[1:40:27] Speaker 2: Like, punch your lung.
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: Like, you don't think some shit like that gonna happen. Like,
[1:40:31] Speaker 1: you fall on somebody, fall on you, punch. So you
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: gotta play every game that's available, in my opinion.
[1:40:36] Speaker 3: So let me just read, so Shams released a statement
[1:40:39] Speaker 3: from Anthony Edwards. Business manager, I said, Anthony and I
[1:40:43] Speaker 3: appreciate the PA appealing his case. For me personally, I'm
[1:40:46] Speaker 3: a bit confused at the clemency for Cade, whom it's
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: time for something that happened on the court, and not Ant,
[1:40:51] Speaker 3: whom it's time for an infection. But ultimately, you already
[1:40:53] Speaker 3: know Ant isn't tripping over it at all. He had
[1:40:57] Speaker 3: an infection? Which games was that?
[1:41:01] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying if he had some of those games, cool.
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: I would have been like, man, you see my baby mama.
[1:41:06] Speaker 2: Goddamn.
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: This is a headache right here.
[1:41:09] Speaker 2: Every time I score a goddamn bucket, she want to talk.
[1:41:11] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:41:13] Speaker 1: You got to do something for me.
[1:41:16] Speaker 9: I'm definitely using that.
[1:41:18] Speaker 2: I'm not tripping at all. In the past, I look
[1:41:20] Speaker 2: at it like this. I look at it like this,
[1:41:22] Speaker 2: and It will suck to do it, but it has
[1:41:29] Speaker 2: to be considered. Yeah. Today's rules or the rules that.
[1:41:36] Speaker 4: Are, that's evolved, the record books have to be evolved to.
[1:41:42] Speaker 2: Meaning, if you look at someone like Isaiah Thomas, right, he.
[1:41:49] Speaker 4: Don't have a bunch of all NBAs because they only
[1:41:52] Speaker 4: had two then.
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:41:57] Speaker 2: So should they go back and take those votes and
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: extend it to three teams?
[1:42:01] Speaker 4: I would have to because history is on it.
[1:42:06] Speaker 2: Because now, remember, all NBA is all NBA.
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: So now you got a player here, he can have 14,
[1:42:13] Speaker 4: 13 all NBAs. As a guard, they're going to push
[1:42:16] Speaker 4: him in front of Isaiah Thomas, which they will be
[1:42:19] Speaker 4: zero in Isaiah Thomas' time. Just like first teams, right,
[1:42:23] Speaker 4: where you have, I think, Shaquille O'Neal.
[1:42:27] Speaker 2: Was he was runner-up to.
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: MVP but made second-team All-NBA because obviously the person in
[1:42:36] Speaker 4: front of him is a center, too. Because they changed
[1:42:39] Speaker 4: it now because of the Joel Embiid, but that happened
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: all in the 90s. The best players was big, so
[1:42:45] Speaker 4: you got top three MVP, one is in the third team.
[1:42:49] Speaker 3: You may have benefited because you played a weaker position
[1:42:52] Speaker 3: in the league.
[1:42:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like I don't want to– it's hard
[1:42:56] Speaker 4: taking something away from somebody who wasn't there, but it's like, man,
[1:43:00] Speaker 4: it's just history is not what it really is.
[1:43:05] Speaker 3: Because now you can put two centers. But has it
[1:43:07] Speaker 3: ever been then is the ultimate question, right? We sit
[1:43:10] Speaker 3: here and debate all these accolades.
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: I wouldn't ever change that because– I would have never
[1:43:14] Speaker 4: changed that because– Because the big men who fought and
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: the big men who, the big men who were elite
[1:43:22] Speaker 4: fighting for MVPs, you're talking about David Robinson, Hakeem, Shaquille
[1:43:27] Speaker 4: O'Neal when they were battling, Patrick Ewing when they were battling,
[1:43:31] Speaker 4: Alonzo Mourning when they were battling. Remember, some of these
[1:43:34] Speaker 4: guys were top 10 players in the league, didn't make
[1:43:37] Speaker 4: the team because four centers, three centers was in front
[1:43:40] Speaker 4: of them.
[1:43:41] Speaker 2: Now, those guys are second teams.
[1:43:46] Speaker 4: So a lot of those guys didn't get all MBAs
[1:43:49] Speaker 4: and won't have it on their resume because of the
[1:43:53] Speaker 4: rules that were then, but these guys get it now.
[1:43:55] Speaker 4: And it just, it kind of, it kind of helps
[1:43:59] Speaker 4: arguments when we're talking about these things, just like bill
[1:44:02] Speaker 4: Russell and the finals MVPs.
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: We don't know how many he would actually want if
[1:44:08] Speaker 2: it existed in or blocks.
[1:44:11] Speaker 4: Cause I can tell you from history, The block champ
[1:44:14] Speaker 4: or the quadruple double champ is Bill Russell.
[1:44:17] Speaker 2: I mean, not Bill Russell, but Will Chamberlain.
[1:44:21] Speaker 4: He will be technically the real one because he.
[1:44:23] Speaker 2: Was averaging, what, 14 blocks a game. That shit crazy.
[1:44:30] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:44:32] Speaker 4: Come on.
[1:44:34] Speaker 2: Because certain things wasn't in then. 44, 30, and 20.
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: So we talked about the 65 game thing a lot,
[1:44:40] Speaker 3: but you look at, I think Ant-Man played close to
[1:44:42] Speaker 3: like 300 more minutes in the regular season than somebody
[1:44:44] Speaker 3: like Wimby. Should it be minutes including that? Then you
[1:44:47] Speaker 3: got Bruce Brown, right, played all 82 games, but not eligible.
[1:44:50] Speaker 2: So what this allows them to do now? You can
[1:44:53] Speaker 2: keep your 65, right?
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: If they're going to keep the 65, they have to
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: keep the 65. But that fine print up underneath the sub,
[1:45:01] Speaker 1: they have to re-evaluate that, right?
[1:45:05] Speaker 2: For different things now, right? Minutes played. Certain things, right?
[1:45:09] Speaker 1: If you're out there averaging 42 minutes a night and
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: you play.
[1:45:12] Speaker 2: 61 games, then.
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: Then that's a different conversation, right? So now the bottom.
[1:45:22] Speaker 4: Lines are 300 minutes more than Wimby.
[1:45:25] Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm saying. That's crazy. Like if you're
[1:45:27] Speaker 2: a player, you're arguing. I understand that.
[1:45:29] Speaker 4: I'll fight for Anthony Edwards in that regard right now.
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: His 61 games, he played 300 more minutes than the
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: guy that played 61.
[1:45:40] Speaker 2: I'm with you.
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: You're going to argue. I'm going to fight for him
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: in that regard with that.
[1:45:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was 1866 and 2137. Yeah. Right.
[1:45:49] Speaker 3: They played the lowest playing 35 minutes a game. We'd
[1:45:51] Speaker 3: be playing like 29.
[1:45:52] Speaker 2: So I take that in.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: So now you have to take that into consideration with
[1:45:56] Speaker 1: the arbitration thing.
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: Every eight games I'm playing it. Yeah. So what should
[1:46:00] Speaker 2: they be?
[1:46:01] Speaker 1: All first team then.
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: I know. Now that they're... You got Jokic, Wimby, SGA. No, no, no. Jokic, Wimby, SGA.
[1:46:08] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown? No Jalen Brown? Okay. You got Jokic, Wimby...
[1:46:12] Speaker 2: Five people. Jokic, Wimby, SGA. It seems like the locks. Joker, K, Jalen... Okay,
[1:46:18] Speaker 2: hold on. Hold on. There's only one position that.
[1:46:22] Speaker 2: Two people can fit. Luka is one. It's one of them.
[1:46:26] Speaker 2: You crazy as hell.
[1:46:27] Speaker 1: The lead in scoring in the NBA in top one.
[1:46:32] Speaker 2: Wimby one. But Jalen Brown did more impressive. Okay.
[1:46:36] Speaker 4: You led the league averaging 33 is more impressive than me? Okay. No,
[1:46:40] Speaker 4: what you did before Tatum came was impressive. Shane Nicola.
[1:46:45] Speaker 4: Luca and Wimby Wimby a lot in K.
[1:46:47] Speaker 2: I'm going the.
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: Kate the Kate Brown in the chair gonna fight.
[1:46:52] Speaker 2: No, they're gonna say the Brown interchange.
[1:46:54] Speaker 5: You're gonna go with you're gonna go with Kate the
[1:46:56] Speaker 5: first because Nike everything they've done Yeah.
[1:46:58] Speaker 11: From where they came to what they've done this whole season.
[1:47:08] Speaker 11: And they're first in the conference. And they're first in
[1:47:10] Speaker 11: the conference.
[1:47:11] Speaker 2: Let's take Nike guy's signature shoe. Lucas is second team
[1:47:14] Speaker 2: to me.
[1:47:15] Speaker 4: I know he's second team to you, but I'm just
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: letting you know what is going to happen.
[1:47:18] Speaker 5: Jalen Brown, what Jalen Brown did is more impressive to me,
[1:47:20] Speaker 5: I think. I would put Jalen Brown first team with Luka.
[1:47:25] Speaker 5: I think you said that last time. I'm not fighting
[1:47:27] Speaker 5: with Jalen Brown being in.
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown or K.
[1:47:31] Speaker 2: I'm like, great.
[1:47:33] Speaker 1: Either one, first team, everybody's like, great. I know I'm like, great.
[1:47:38] Speaker 2: But which one, if it got to be, if they
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: both kind of get in the club. Who will be
[1:47:41] Speaker 2: second team? You're the bouncer at the club. They both
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: pull up. Who can make first team? Who's second team?
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: I mean, you got to go Taylor Brown.
[1:47:49] Speaker 2: Taylor Brown? They finished first in the conference. So you
[1:47:52] Speaker 2: said they finished first, but I can tell you Celtics
[1:47:54] Speaker 2: finished second without... Tatum, like, they both have an argument.
[1:47:58] Speaker 2: Did they finish second without Tatum? Yeah. For the bulk
[1:48:00] Speaker 2: of the season.
[1:48:01] Speaker 4: Or did Tatum come back and help them clinch second?
[1:48:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. You got to remember. He still had
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: 40 points in the game. What I'm saying is you're not.
[1:48:08] Speaker 1: When Cade was down, the Pistons were like 8-4 or
[1:48:11] Speaker 1: whatever it was, so they held on to I'm just saying.
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: They still held on to it. I don't care either way,
[1:48:17] Speaker 2: but I'm just saying.
[1:48:18] Speaker 4: Tatum coming back, giving a little energy and helping didn't
[1:48:23] Speaker 4: help Jalen Brown's argument to win something. Because now you
[1:48:27] Speaker 4: got another player that's impacting winning and it's just not.
[1:48:31] Speaker 2: Solely on you anymore. Right?
[1:48:33] Speaker 4: And that just, that would.
[1:48:35] Speaker 2: Change a voter's mind. Mm-hmm. Right? K didn't get nothing new.
[1:48:40] Speaker 2: He didn't get nothing new. Right? Shea didn't get nothing new.
[1:48:44] Speaker 2: They lost a player. You got back a player. Right?
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: So, like, let's say 20 games ago, no, no, no, OKC,
[1:48:57] Speaker 4: Jalen Williams comes back and he's putting in that work and.
[1:49:01] Speaker 2: They're helping him win. It'll win against Shea a little bit.
[1:49:05] Speaker 4: No.
[1:49:05] Speaker 2: It does. It does.
[1:49:08] Speaker 4: It does because you're counting before the wins counted to
[1:49:11] Speaker 4: you by yourself.
[1:49:11] Speaker 5: You can't say that one way and then when it
[1:49:14] Speaker 5: goes to Murray and Joker, when Joker's out now, Murray's
[1:49:17] Speaker 5: an all-NBA player now because.
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: He's kept the flow of winning. Yeah. He never still
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: won when Joker was out. So when Joker comes back,
[1:49:26] Speaker 2: so Murray don't be the same guy? Murray don't be
[1:49:28] Speaker 2: the same guy?
[1:49:30] Speaker 1: Was he first or just all NBA?
[1:49:31] Speaker 5: Oh, he's going to be all NBA. He was all-star
[1:49:33] Speaker 5: this year. So he don't be that. Even though Joker
[1:49:36] Speaker 5: come back, they still stay the same. Now think of
[1:49:38] Speaker 5: it in reality. Was he that when Joker was there?
[1:49:43] Speaker 2: Still the same. No, was he there?
[1:49:45] Speaker 4: But he wasn't considered that guy.
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: When Joker left.
[1:49:50] Speaker 4: He takes on the load, and he's showing that he's
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: this type of player.
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: He got the attribute. The team still wins.
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: Yes, he's winning, and he's by himself looking great. It's
[1:50:00] Speaker 4: the same thing with Jalen Brown, but reversed. He's looking great,
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: and then the player comes back.
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: So, like, what's the name? It didn't help.
[1:50:13] Speaker 4: It didn't help his case.
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: Just like.
[1:50:18] Speaker 4: When Murray was there with him and he was doing
[1:50:20] Speaker 4: the same thing, no one looked at him.
[1:50:22] Speaker 3: So Pistons were 13-5 without Cade this season. Celtics were
[1:50:25] Speaker 3: 9-2 without Jalen Brown this season. So I'm just like,
[1:50:27] Speaker 3: it seems like it's a wash.
[1:50:29] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:50:29] Speaker 2: No. It's not. Because 9-2, who looked better when Cade
[1:50:34] Speaker 2: was out?
[1:50:35] Speaker 3: But Jalen Brown played the bulk of the season without
[1:50:37] Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, right?
[1:50:38] Speaker 2: And still had the Celtics.
[1:50:41] Speaker 5: His numbers are still in jobs.
[1:50:43] Speaker 4: I'm in the conversation because of what I'm doing. Jason
[1:50:47] Speaker 4: Tatum got here. I'm in the conversation because I'm holding
[1:50:49] Speaker 4: the fort down.
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: Right? I'm by myself. That means I'm getting everything by myself.
[1:50:56] Speaker 4: Now when we're talking about three, four, and I'm in
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: that conversation, top five, and then....
[1:51:03] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum comes back, and he's putting in his work.
[1:51:06] Speaker 2: You got to remember, when Jason Tatum came back, who
[1:51:08] Speaker 2: was the star? Who was people talking about? Jason Tatum.
[1:51:11] Speaker 4: So the sun is being taken away from me. I'm
[1:51:14] Speaker 4: not getting watered as much as I was.
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: But we're number two.
[1:51:17] Speaker 4: While everybody is still getting the same amount of water.
[1:51:21] Speaker 2: Wimby's getting more water. Shea's getting more water. Jokic is
[1:51:24] Speaker 2: getting his water. My water is being dimmed because Tatum
[1:51:28] Speaker 2: came back. No.
[1:51:29] Speaker 5: They're still the same spot, and I've still got.
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: The same numbers. Numbers are consistent.
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, nothing changed.
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: If you're number two, my number's still the same.
[1:51:37] Speaker 4: Your numbers are still the same.
[1:51:40] Speaker 2: 20 games shouldn't.
[1:51:40] Speaker 5: Deter where niggas thought I was going to be in
[1:51:42] Speaker 5: the lottery.
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: Now I'm number two. Your numbers are still the same.
[1:51:45] Speaker 5: If you say number two, like, that's... Again. What affects that?
[1:51:49] Speaker 5: How did that affect 20 games when I... In the
[1:51:52] Speaker 5: 60 games, is the 65 games the limit?
[1:51:55] Speaker 2: Yeah. In that amount of games, I was number two.
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:51:58] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yes.
[1:52:00] Speaker 5: He comes back, I'm still number two and my number's
[1:52:02] Speaker 5: still the same.
[1:52:03] Speaker 2: The drop-off didn't.
[1:52:04] Speaker 5: Come like when Joker came and Murray dropped off and
[1:52:07] Speaker 5: Joker went back to number one. No, Brown stayed at
[1:52:10] Speaker 5: number one, Tatum trying to find his way. You act
[1:52:13] Speaker 5: like he came back as Joker and still averaged a triple-double.
[1:52:16] Speaker 5: He was out there trying to find his way.
[1:52:17] Speaker 2: Who? Jason Tatum. Joker came back.
[1:52:21] Speaker 5: And, oh, I'm still Joker, I'm the triple-double king.
[1:52:23] Speaker 4: But he was already in front. See, you're missing the point.
[1:52:28] Speaker 4: This is not about Jokic. When Jokic was there, there's
[1:52:32] Speaker 4: no Murray. No one's talking about Murray. Murray made his
[1:52:35] Speaker 4: name when Joker's out. So Murray looked good. Now think
[1:52:39] Speaker 4: about Brown.
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: Brown looks good. Yeah, it's like Murray.
[1:52:45] Speaker 4: Now, does Murray look good when Joker's back?
[1:52:48] Speaker 5: He's doing the same thing.
[1:52:50] Speaker 2: He's doing the same thing. I'm going to ask you
[1:52:52] Speaker 2: a question.
[1:52:54] Speaker 4: Murray's doing the same thing, but are people talking about
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: Murray now?
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: He might be 13, yes. He might be. He might.
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: He's an author. He should make a change.
[1:53:06] Speaker 4: It changed back because we're talking about Jokic as the MVP,
[1:53:10] Speaker 4: just like Tatum, right?
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: Tatum comes back.
[1:53:14] Speaker 4: The media is talking about Tatum. And Tatum is this,
[1:53:18] Speaker 4: and Tatum's coming back, and this and this. So you're
[1:53:22] Speaker 4: not giving the sunshine to Brown like you were before.
[1:53:26] Speaker 5: When Tatum come back, it made them talk about them
[1:53:29] Speaker 5: in a contender way, like they're going to make the finals.
[1:53:31] Speaker 5: They ain't talking about, oh, they're talking about Jalen Brown,
[1:53:34] Speaker 5: still Jalen Brown.
[1:53:34] Speaker 2: Just say that. There are contenders. He comes back. There
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: are contenders.
[1:53:39] Speaker 5: Like, Joker come back, there are contenders. I don't get
[1:53:42] Speaker 5: how one could make somebody else win. fall and the
[1:53:45] Speaker 5: other one raise somebody else up.
[1:53:47] Speaker 3: But they were still in the contender talk even without
[1:53:49] Speaker 3: Jason's head.
[1:53:50] Speaker 2: No, in terms of the East. You got a top
[1:53:52] Speaker 2: two team in the East. How about this? Where's Brown
[1:53:54] Speaker 2: at now in the MVP voting?
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: He fell out of the top five.
[1:54:00] Speaker 2: He's been doing the same thing. Right? He's been balling.
[1:54:03] Speaker 2: They've been winning. But where is he at?
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: I think, let me see, there was only the... Maybe four.
[1:54:08] Speaker 1: They don't have to be updated during the postseason. He
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: was still top five. Wait, he's four?
[1:54:14] Speaker 5: As of March 27th, let me double check. MVP and
[1:54:19] Speaker 5: be the face of the NBA. Jalen Brown, just the
[1:54:23] Speaker 5: controversy he stays in.
[1:54:25] Speaker 4: Just where was he before Tatum came and where is
[1:54:29] Speaker 4: he at?
[1:54:29] Speaker 2: Because it's five. He's staying in the five range.
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: He was still in the up to the last one
[1:54:37] Speaker 3: that they released.
[1:54:38] Speaker 2: What was the last one?
[1:54:39] Speaker 1: So the last one had Wimby in one, SGA two,
[1:54:41] Speaker 1: Yolkish three, Luka four.
[1:54:43] Speaker 2: What was it? That's the one you mentioned. Luka three,
[1:54:46] Speaker 2: Luka four? It was Luka four, Jalen Brown five. Wimby
[1:54:49] Speaker 2: jumped out of nowhere, though.
[1:54:51] Speaker 5: Wimby wasn't in the discussion in the beginning. He jumped
[1:54:54] Speaker 5: out of nowhere, though. That's what I'm saying. Of course
[1:54:56] Speaker 5: somebody else is going to go back. Because this guy
[1:54:58] Speaker 5: jumped into the conversation.
[1:54:59] Speaker 2: Wimby's been four or five the whole time. No, Wimby
[1:55:02] Speaker 2: ain't never. I'm just saying, guys.
[1:55:03] Speaker 5: Hold on.
[1:55:07] Speaker 4: No, he's... I'm just saying it's just.
[1:55:08] Speaker 2: It's just we've been in the top five.
[1:55:09] Speaker 4: Somebody, when someone comes back, if it's the best player
[1:55:13] Speaker 4: or another star, it just dims your light just a
[1:55:15] Speaker 4: little bit.
[1:55:16] Speaker 9: It's just going to suck because he has been playing like.
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean? He's been playing first
[1:55:20] Speaker 4: team all NBA. That's not the question. The question is,
[1:55:23] Speaker 4: was he all NBA? He was playing first.
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: Team all NBA. Yeah, yeah. He was, yeah.
[1:55:28] Speaker 1: It's just those other two guys.
[1:55:29] Speaker 4: But they look at it and they're like, those last 10,
[1:55:32] Speaker 4: 15 games, everybody's like, oh, well, you know, they get
[1:55:34] Speaker 4: to make their excuses.
[1:55:35] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Tate, I'm helping you a little bit. Finished
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: off right, you know. That's what. Since March 18th. It's
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: a voter. I mean, Tate has had some games. Since
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: March 18th. It's a voter. So what do voters do?
[1:55:45] Speaker 2: I think April 3rd might have been the last one.
[1:55:47] Speaker 2: Since March 18th. I mean, we're not 14. 32, 30, 29, 31, 29, 43, 26, 26, 35.
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: And did you hear about it? Man, that's nothing changed.
[1:55:58] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:55:59] Speaker 1: Listen to what I'm saying. Yes, we heard about it.
[1:56:02] Speaker 2: We like Boston and Scary.
[1:56:03] Speaker 4: Or did you hear about Tatum and his performance?
[1:56:07] Speaker 5: No, we heard about Boston still supposed to be in
[1:56:09] Speaker 5: the finals.
[1:56:10] Speaker 2: Who did you hear about?
[1:56:11] Speaker 4: You just read those numbers. But when we're hearing the
[1:56:15] Speaker 4: media stuff, they're giving you the update. Not on who's
[1:56:18] Speaker 4: been balling the whole time. You're giving the update on
[1:56:21] Speaker 4: Tatum's performance. It's taken away Jalen Steen. Just like Jokic
[1:56:28] Speaker 4: comes back and they're talking about 65 games and triple doubles.
[1:56:31] Speaker 4: It just took away what Murray's doing. And that's all
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: I'm saying. So when you're voting for something, I forget
[1:56:39] Speaker 4: you easily. Because another name came.
[1:56:42] Speaker 2: Murray's about to be 13 for the first time. We'll see.
[1:56:46] Speaker 2: Who's the second team? Kawhi? Kawhi. Probably conversation. Jalen or
[1:56:51] Speaker 2: what's his name? Oh, Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Brunson. Brunson, that's three.
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: I mean, probably Jalen Brown.
[1:56:57] Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard going to make an All-NBA.
[1:57:00] Speaker 5: Kawhi, Donovan, Brunson, that's three. Jalen Brown or Luka.
[1:57:04] Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant.
[1:57:06] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant.
[1:57:08] Speaker 2: So three should be what? Ant-Man should be in three
[1:57:12] Speaker 2: at least. No, he can't. He can't. He can't qualify, bro.
[1:57:15] Speaker 2: He can't qualify. He can't redo it. He doesn't qualify.
[1:57:17] Speaker 2: He doesn't qualify. He can't redo it. I'm about to
[1:57:18] Speaker 2: keep sending in action. Fuck, I'm playing. How many more
[1:57:23] Speaker 2: game minutes?
[1:57:23] Speaker 1: I'm going to keep redoing it. I'm going to redo it.
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: Jamal Murray's All-NBA, man. He has to.
[1:57:27] Speaker 2: So, Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray's the third team All-NBA. Yeah, Jalen, Durin.
[1:57:32] Speaker 2: Third team. Yeah. So all these people move in now. Oh, shit.
[1:57:36] Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxey. You got Jalen Johnson.
[1:57:39] Speaker 1: I forgot.
[1:57:40] Speaker 2: So now you move in Booker and fucking... So now Demi.
[1:57:44] Speaker 2: Demi from Portland. I'm taking Durant over Jalen Johnson right now.
[1:57:48] Speaker 2: Demi going to make it now? Who? Yo, that third team.
[1:57:59] Speaker 2: He's not making the All-NBA team. Think about it.
[1:58:02] Speaker 1: Demi Alvarez is not making the All-NBA team. I got
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: Tyrus Maxey making the second team.
[1:58:06] Speaker 2: He's not making an All-NBA team this year.
[1:58:07] Speaker 5: The second team is Maxey, Brunson, Donovan.
[1:58:11] Speaker 1: One of Cade or.
[1:58:13] Speaker 2: Cade. And K.Y. That's five. They're going to make the
[1:58:16] Speaker 2: second team. So the next is, you said.
[1:58:19] Speaker 1: Denny Alvarez now. Let's go with the guarantees. The guarantee
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: will be the top 80... Kevin Durant. He's making second
[1:58:27] Speaker 1: team or third team.
[1:58:28] Speaker 2: Kawhi.
[1:58:29] Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard.
[1:58:30] Speaker 2: Kawhi.
[1:58:30] Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson.
[1:58:32] Speaker 2: Third?
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: I'm just saying second or third team.
[1:58:35] Speaker 2: Either one.
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the best of the rest that
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: didn't make first team, right?
[1:58:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. How about that? Jamal Murray.
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxson.
[1:58:43] Speaker 2: Jamal Murray. KD.
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. Jalen Brown or Cade.
[1:58:47] Speaker 2: That third team is going to be nasty. Booker. Devin Booker.
[1:58:50] Speaker 2: Booker got to make it now. See? No, not make
[1:58:53] Speaker 2: it now. Devin Booker. He wouldn't have made it.
[1:58:57] Speaker 5: Shit.
[1:58:57] Speaker 2: Oh, no, the vote is already in.
[1:58:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:58:59] Speaker 5: So then we got to make it, too.
[1:59:01] Speaker 1: James Harden. Donovan Mitchell. I don't know if Booker is eligible.
[1:59:05] Speaker 1: He booked 64 games. 64 games?
[1:59:08] Speaker 2: So if he's not eligible, then just think about it, right?
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: Then you got Durin. I ain't counting him yet. James
[1:59:17] Speaker 2: not eligible, though. James Harden? Yeah, ineligible. Booker, D. Booker,
[1:59:20] Speaker 2: I'm going to play 64.
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: Okay, well, them two, that's two more spots. So that
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: increases your guy chance, Nick. That's what I said. You
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: got to make it. Without them two guys.
[1:59:30] Speaker 2: That's crazy, bro. That's going to be crazy. That's going
[1:59:34] Speaker 2: to be nasty work, bro. That helps all of them.
[1:59:37] Speaker 5: That's going to be nasty work, bro.
[1:59:39] Speaker 2: Murray.
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: I think Jamal Murray is a lock no matter what.
[1:59:43] Speaker 1: I think Jamal Murray is a lock for third team All-NBA.
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: But it does help that Anthony Edwards is out.
[1:59:51] Speaker 2: Booker's out. Absolutely. That helps his case.
[1:59:54] Speaker 1: Because they will be on second team no matter what.
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: A lot of people's cases are those other two.
[2:00:00] Speaker 5: It would have been some other.
[2:00:04] Speaker 9: If Luka and K was out, it would have been.
[2:00:06] Speaker 4: The vote was done a week before the season's over with.
[2:00:09] Speaker 3: I don't know because we had to wait for Luka.
[2:00:10] Speaker 2: They got the two they put in and they're just
[2:00:12] Speaker 2: going to remove those two. But the vote was already in.
[2:00:18] Speaker 2: I think it has to be after the regular season
[2:00:20] Speaker 2: ends unless I'm true.
[2:00:22] Speaker 4: After it would be– isn't it like a week so
[2:00:24] Speaker 4: they wouldn't– so the last game can't– I thought.
[2:00:27] Speaker 2: It was like before the last game.
[2:00:27] Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson from– He got a shot.
[2:00:30] Speaker 2: So last game. Here's a shot.
[2:00:32] Speaker 4: Here's a shot.
[2:00:33] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That third team is going to
[2:00:35] Speaker 2: be crazy. Actually, I know. They probably get the balance
[2:00:36] Speaker 2: in the middle. I had to pick.
[2:00:38] Speaker 1: Jalen Duren or Jalen Johnson for third team. I'm going
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: Jalen Duren because what he impacted when Cade was out.
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: He is, and I'm going to give him that nod
[2:00:49] Speaker 1: over Jalen Johnson.
[2:00:50] Speaker 2: I mean, for that. Do you put Towns in him? No.
[2:00:54] Speaker 2: He play a 75 game? I don't.
[2:00:57] Speaker 1: He could.
[2:00:57] Speaker 2: I mean, he could. I ain't going to lie. He could.
[2:01:00] Speaker 1: He's a regular. I can tell you this.
[2:01:02] Speaker 2: It's a possibility. I can tell you this. Yeah, it's
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: a regular. That's a great possibility.
[2:01:05] Speaker 1: I can tell you this.
[2:01:06] Speaker 2: It's a great possibility. As an owner, if I'm Portland ….
[2:01:14] Speaker 1: It looks good if it's two Knicks in it.
[2:01:17] Speaker 2: Nah, I like dude.
[2:01:18] Speaker 1: It look good if it's two Knicks.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: I like dude from Portland. I know, I like him.
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: I like him too. I like him too.
[2:01:24] Speaker 4: I just don't like him for $ 300. I like him
[2:01:27] Speaker 4: for $ 240. That's what I'm saying.
[2:01:31] Speaker 2: Really think about it. I get it. I want you.
[2:01:36] Speaker 2: But I don't know if I want you for $ 350.
[2:01:38] Speaker 2: I love you at $ 250. Boy, you look great at $ 250.
[2:01:41] Speaker 5: Not at $ 350.
[2:01:46] Speaker 3: Well, the All-NBA teams will be released in the near future,
[2:01:49] Speaker 3: and we will have a lot more to debate and discuss.
[2:01:50] Speaker 3: We have one last thing we need to get to
[2:01:52] Speaker 3: before we wrap it up for the day. So the
[2:01:53] Speaker 3: final round of the playing tournament Friday. Throughout the playoffs,
[2:01:57] Speaker 3: we will be making team picks using underdogs prediction markets,
[2:02:00] Speaker 3: which you can do as well. We'll keep a leaderboard
[2:02:02] Speaker 3: of the couch's picks throughout the entire playoffs. So let's
[2:02:04] Speaker 3: take a look at the updated standings after night two.
[2:02:06] Speaker 3: Good basketball conversation today, fellas.
[2:02:16] Speaker 5: Y'all pick somebody yesterday.
[2:02:20] Speaker 2: I know you wanted somebody.
[2:02:21] Speaker 5: When you pick the Clippers in your mind No, you
[2:02:23] Speaker 5: pick the Clippers.
[2:02:23] Speaker 2: You pick the Clippers.
[2:02:24] Speaker 5: No, we didn't even get a chance to but nobody
[2:02:26] Speaker 5: thought Oakland was gonna I mean the bay the Warriors
[2:02:29] Speaker 5: gonna win.
[2:02:29] Speaker 6: What he gave us a chance to ask me my Yeah,
[2:02:31] Speaker 6: I'm about to say they're nasty.
[2:02:32] Speaker 2: I would have sent one in. Realistically.
[2:02:34] Speaker 1: I'm about to say.
[2:02:35] Speaker 2: I would have sent one in. Sixers, Warriors.
[2:02:37] Speaker 1: I would have picked Philly.
[2:02:40] Speaker 2: Somebody asked me yesterday. I said Orlando ain't got a chance.
[2:02:46] Speaker 6: I'm about to say I would have been three and
[2:02:47] Speaker 6: one because I would have picked the Warriors for sure.
[2:02:49] Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't have. That's a hell of a question.
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: I'm definitely going with the wind.
[2:02:52] Speaker 2: I'm definitely going with the wind. We are. We are.
[2:02:54] Speaker 2: You better repeat.
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: I would have.
[2:02:56] Speaker 5: You see all that step cushion I got in my house?
[2:02:58] Speaker 2: You wasn't going to see that. You didn't even think
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: you were playing.
[2:03:00] Speaker 4: I would have went on my theory and I would
[2:03:02] Speaker 4: have went. So I'll be two and two. But lucky
[2:03:05] Speaker 4: for me, lucky for me, they didn't do it. So
[2:03:07] Speaker 4: I get to get an extra win.
[2:03:08] Speaker 2: So you want mine? I'm going with the Suns. And
[2:03:11] Speaker 2: who's next? Let me do my job to wrap up
[2:03:15] Speaker 2: the week. I know who won the lottery pick. I
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: know who won the lottery pick.
[2:03:19] Speaker 3: Low managing for most of the episode. In the East,
[2:03:22] Speaker 3: we got the Hornets. I'll make the trip to Orlando
[2:03:24] Speaker 3: after the Magic's loss to the Sixers. Winner of this
[2:03:27] Speaker 3: game will go on to face Detroit Pistons in the
[2:03:29] Speaker 3: first round. The Hornets with a 61% chance to win.
[2:03:32] Speaker 3: The Magic are 39% underdog prediction.
[2:03:35] Speaker 2: I'm going Charlotte. I'm going Charlotte. Hell yeah. I'm going Orlando. 0-5. 0-5. 0-5. Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, Orlando. Charlotte.
[2:03:44] Speaker 2: I want Charlotte to win, so I'm going Orlando. I
[2:03:47] Speaker 2: want to stay 0-6.
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: Put him in the bathroom.
[2:03:50] Speaker 2: I want Melo to be in the playoffs, so I'm
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: going Orlando.
[2:03:53] Speaker 1: Hey, man, I'm telling you.
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: I've been wrong all this time. If you miss every
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: single pick, you also get a prize. My dog.
[2:04:05] Speaker 1: We have another roach that we will happily propose to.
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: This is the roach seat. We killed the roach that
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: was here earlier in the week, but his.
[2:04:12] Speaker 3: Cousin is still lingering somewhere on the set.
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: See if you can find it.
[2:04:19] Speaker 3: We got Charlotte. Next, we have Warrior Sundress. Steph and
[2:04:23] Speaker 3: the Warriors got the win over the Clippers. Will now
[2:04:25] Speaker 3: travel to Phoenix to take on the Suns for a
[2:04:26] Speaker 3: chance to get swept by.
[2:04:30] Speaker 2: Bye, the Thunder. Bay Area! The Suns are the favorite
[2:04:33] Speaker 2: in this matchup. 59% chance to win. Warriors at 42%.
[2:04:35] Speaker 4: It's Michael Dunleavy, baby. It's Michael Dunleavy, baby. I knows
[2:04:41] Speaker 4: my Dunleavy.
[2:04:42] Speaker 1: I knows my Dukes.
[2:04:43] Speaker 2: Those ride the wheel. Those ride the wheel. I got
[2:04:46] Speaker 2: the bay. Mm-hmm. Let somebody fall on their ass.
[2:04:49] Speaker 1: I'm going to pick the... I'm going to go with the.
[2:04:51] Speaker 2: Oh, man. No, go with your.
[2:04:53] Speaker 1: Go with.
[2:04:54] Speaker 2: Your Golden State, man. You did all that preaching earlier today.
[2:04:57] Speaker 2: I ain't talking about... I would have peaked the wood.
[2:05:00] Speaker 9: I definitely against the Clippers.
[2:05:01] Speaker 2: I'm going to go.
[2:05:03] Speaker 1: With the Suns because Devin Booker's legacy on the line
[2:05:05] Speaker 1: right here.
[2:05:06] Speaker 3: Devin Booker's legacy on the line, Mr. B. We'll discuss
[2:05:09] Speaker 3: that next week.
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: I know you're lying.
[2:05:11] Speaker 1: You smart, though.
[2:05:12] Speaker 2: You smart. You smart.
[2:05:13] Speaker 3: Devin Booker will be in his fifth elimination game, although
[2:05:15] Speaker 3: this one will not technically count because it.
[2:05:17] Speaker 2: Is the play. I'm going Bay Area. I'm going Phoenix. Cool.
[2:05:23] Speaker 2: Bay Area.
[2:05:24] Speaker 1: I like what I saw the other day out of
[2:05:25] Speaker 1: Jalen Green, man.
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
[2:05:28] Speaker 1: Shot selection was, I like what I saw.
[2:05:31] Speaker 2: Out of Jalen Green.
[2:05:32] Speaker 5: And they got two up over there.
[2:05:34] Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, because Jim's going to have his
[2:05:37] Speaker 2: hands full. Stealth pass.
[2:05:39] Speaker 1: You could throw more.
[2:05:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, you could throw more.
[2:05:41] Speaker 1: And Dylan Brooks out there. I'm going Phoenix. I'm going Phoenix, Charlotte. Charlotte, Phoenix.
[2:05:47] Speaker 2: I'm going to say this.
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: Hey, anybody who puts their money in Orlando, there's something
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: wrong with y'all, okay? Because I can tell you this.
[2:05:54] Speaker 4: If you come out publicly and tell me no matter
[2:05:58] Speaker 4: what I do, I'm fired. You mean no matter what
[2:06:05] Speaker 4: I do? Sit your ass down.
[2:06:07] Speaker 2: Who that nigga at the end of the bit?
[2:06:09] Speaker 1: You the starter now. Hey, do you. Do you play.
[2:06:12] Speaker 2: Do you. Shoot all the shots. You ain't got a
[2:06:14] Speaker 2: pass on no one. Starting five, sit down. The rest
[2:06:17] Speaker 2: of y'all come on in. Nah, they ain't want the
[2:06:20] Speaker 2: Hornets to make it. They would like the Hornets to
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: make it. They ain't going to pre-fire me and Dick.
[2:06:25] Speaker 2: I'm about to go out there and go.
[2:06:26] Speaker 9: I'm not going to go for a Hornets, Detroit first round.
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: I want to see that.
[2:06:30] Speaker 9: I definitely want to see that.
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: Hornets, Detroit first round. I want to see that.
[2:06:34] Speaker 2: Yes. That's why you're picking them. The first three minutes. What?
[2:06:38] Speaker 1: I want to see that.
[2:06:39] Speaker 2: That's going to be exciting. We will find out on
[2:06:42] Speaker 2: Friday with the final round of the play-in. That's going
[2:06:44] Speaker 2: to be a good bump.
[2:06:46] Speaker 3: We'll be back here on Tuesday to discuss all of
[2:06:48] Speaker 3: it and the start of the NBA playoffs. Appreciate you
[2:06:51] Speaker 3: to everybody in the chat as always. Shout out to
[2:06:52] Speaker 3: everybody on this couch as well. This has been... Hold on.
[2:06:57] Speaker 2: Get on the phone. Let's go.
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: This has been another episode of Gil's.
[2:07:07] Speaker 2: Arena presented by Underdog. We'll see y'all next week.

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