# Bronny James' Best Game Ever BLOWS UP Gil's Arena!!

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 9 Dec 2024, 2 h 31 min.

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Gil's Arena Recaps A WILD Weekend Of NBA Hoops as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to Gil's Arena and break down all the action from an action packed weekend in Adam Silver's association. They kick things off with the Philadelphia 76ers as Joel Embiid, Paul George and Tyrese Maxey finally took the floor together for the first time this season, giving fans some optimism that their Big 3 can turn the season around. Next, they react to Ja Morant's short lived ban on dunking as Ja dunked all over the Boston Celtics, earning the Memphis Grizzlies a huge win and placing the team just 2 games behind the top spot in the Western Conference, sparking a Gil's Arena debate on if The Grizz are for real or fugazi. The Gil's Arena Crew then turns their attention to the NBA MVP Race where Nikola Jokic is playing perhaps the best hoops of his career but the Denver Nuggets can't find a way to turn their star player's production into wins, concerning Gil on the future of this Nuggets team. Finally, Gil and The Crew turn their attention to 2 of the games' biggest stars in LeBron James & Steph Curry whose Los Angeles Lakers & Golden State Warriors are barely keeping their heads above water, setting up a potential dream trade scenario that could send LeBron and Bronny to the Bay Arena. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings, Ty Young & Sheryl Swoopes Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Get Your Ugly Sweaters HERE!! - https://gilsarenamerch.com/collections/holiday-sweaters Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 76ers Big 3 Finally Plays Together 0:08:25 Ja Morant & The Grizzlies Are Surprise Contenders 0:24:45 Jokic's Historic Season 0:37:53 Who Is The Nuggets' Leader? 0:54:27 Lakers Trick Off Another One vs The Hawks 1:14:52 Lakers Win Without LeBron 1:20:03 Bronny's Career Game 1:36:09 Kobe vs Jordan at Age 24 1:59:48 WNBA Expansion Draft 2:05:58 The Biggest Improvement To Angel Reese's Game 2:18:11 MostlyFans 2:23:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa!
[0:07] Speaker 1: Gloryous Monday here in the arena. Come on, Gil.
[0:11] Speaker 3: Cowboy?
[0:11] Speaker 1: You a Cowboys fan now?
[0:13] Speaker 4: No.
[0:13] Speaker 2: Troy Aikman?
[0:15] Speaker 5: That's what I thought.
[0:17] Speaker 1: Okay.
[0:17] Speaker 3: No, just call.
[0:17] Speaker 2: Go, bro.
[0:18] Speaker 1: Go, bro.
[0:18] Speaker 3: It's fine.
[0:19] Speaker 4: It's fine. I wonder why it cost $ 300.
[0:21] Speaker 1: You got your quarterback dirty again. White man back there, huh?
[0:24] Speaker 2: There's a white man back there. 300.
[0:27] Speaker 1: We already started. One move, hit it off. We already started.
[0:30] Speaker 4: It's too early.
[0:31] Speaker 1: It is too early for all this.
[0:33] Speaker 4: I looked at him like, ah, this must be fake.
[0:34] Speaker 1: It's too early.
[0:36] Speaker 6: It is too early for all this, but this is
[0:37] Speaker 6: Gil's Arena presenting my underdog. As always, we got the
[0:39] Speaker 6: legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[0:40] Speaker 4: What's up?
[0:44] Speaker 6: We got the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants.
[0:47] Speaker 2: Back in the house.
[0:51] Speaker 6: We got four-time WNBA champion of the world, Cheryl Swoops.
[0:56] Speaker 2: Cheryl, we got the most important thing.
[0:59] Speaker 4: Got your face, the glamour shot.
[1:01] Speaker 1: We got you.
[1:03] Speaker 5: There's a story behind me I'll share later. But I
[1:06] Speaker 5: just want her to sit here for a minute.
[1:09] Speaker 1: The things that make y'all happy.
[1:12] Speaker 2: The things that make y'all happy. I wish I knew
[1:16] Speaker 2: more about things like this.
[1:18] Speaker 5: There's a lot more. We haven't gotten there yet.
[1:21] Speaker 2: We never knew. Oh, no.
[1:22] Speaker 1: They knew.
[1:23] Speaker 2: They knew.
[1:27] Speaker 4: At the back of another person's head. Thank you.
[1:35] Speaker 1: We got this whoops photo. We finally do right by you.
[1:38] Speaker 1: We get it together. And we got a special guest.
[1:41] Speaker 1: I know now.
[1:42] Speaker 7: I know now.
[1:42] Speaker 4: Oh, there you go.
[1:44] Speaker 1: We got a special guest.
[1:45] Speaker 2: They got the old one.
[1:47] Speaker 1: Oh, that's the old one.
[1:48] Speaker 2: That's your old one.
[1:49] Speaker 1: They got the old soups.
[1:50] Speaker 4: They used black this time.
[1:52] Speaker 7: Before it was just white.
[1:52] Speaker 2: It was just black.
[1:53] Speaker 1: Damn. You know, I'm crazy.
[1:57] Speaker 4: That's you today.
[1:58] Speaker 2: That's you today.
[1:59] Speaker 5: That used to be me.
[2:02] Speaker 6: We got a special guest making her first appearance in
[2:04] Speaker 6: the arena. She was the eighth pick by the Atlanta
[2:06] Speaker 6: Dream in the 2008 draft. Went on to play 12
[2:08] Speaker 6: seasons in the W with the Dream Sky and Aces.
[2:11] Speaker 6: She was an assistant coach with the Chicago Sky last season.
[2:14] Speaker 6: and was recently inducted into the League Fits Hall of
[2:16] Speaker 6: Fame for her superior drip game.
[2:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:18] Speaker 1: And she got her own clothing brand, TY1 Gear. Let's go.
[2:21] Speaker 1: You're going to see some of it right now. Ty Young, welcome.
[2:25] Speaker 2: To Gil's Arena.
[2:26] Speaker 4: Welcome.
[2:27] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[2:27] Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling. I had to make sure to
[2:29] Speaker 1: get everything in there.
[2:30] Speaker 7: Listen, I appreciate being here.
[2:32] Speaker 1: We're happy to have you on the couch. Look at y'all.
[2:35] Speaker 4: Okay, we got... Okay.
[2:39] Speaker 5: Yeah, a little different.
[2:40] Speaker 1: It's going to be a little spicy here today.
[2:42] Speaker 2: She's all out of whack.
[2:43] Speaker 4: She's like, I am.
[2:44] Speaker 5: I'm so lost and confused.
[2:46] Speaker 1: We had to upgrade. She wants my seat so bad.
[2:48] Speaker 4: No.
[2:49] Speaker 2: She wants my seat so bad.
[2:51] Speaker 7: That's my spot. That's usually my spot.
[2:53] Speaker 4: You know, you can't switch it up on the math, please, boy.
[2:55] Speaker 2: They be routine. They feel the same way. She walked
[2:59] Speaker 2: in and was like, wait a minute.
[3:00] Speaker 4: What's going on?
[3:01] Speaker 2: What's going on?
[3:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, she almost said nigga. She almost said nigga, boy.
[3:04] Speaker 2: She almost said nigga.
[3:07] Speaker 4: One of you niggas done switched my shit.
[3:13] Speaker 2: I almost did.
[3:14] Speaker 1: I really did.
[3:15] Speaker 4: I walked in and thought I was cut.
[3:19] Speaker 1: We upgraded you.
[3:20] Speaker 5: On this side? It's an upgrade?
[3:22] Speaker 7: It's the right side.
[3:23] Speaker 1: That's where you win. You win over there.
[3:27] Speaker 2: You win over there. Over here, it's complicated over here.
[3:32] Speaker 5: It's interesting that the two of you are over there.
[3:34] Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it plays out today.
[3:36] Speaker 5: I kind of like it.
[3:38] Speaker 6: But for all the fans out there, we still have
[3:40] Speaker 6: two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, vertical moment version.
[3:43] Speaker 6: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[3:45] Speaker 6: you watch the show. But here's what's cracking in the
[3:47] Speaker 6: arena today. Sixers Big Three got the win in their
[3:51] Speaker 6: first full game together. What's the Sixers ceiling if Embiid, Maxie,
[3:54] Speaker 6: and PG can stay healthy? They're training in the right direction,
[3:58] Speaker 6: won four of their last five games. John Morant showed
[4:00] Speaker 6: his no more dunking claim was capped in a big
[4:03] Speaker 6: win at Boston.
[4:04] Speaker 1: But are the Grizzlies for real or Fugazi?
[4:08] Speaker 6: And Jokic made history this weekend as he increased his
[4:10] Speaker 6: lead in the MVP race. But how concerned should the
[4:13] Speaker 6: Nuggets be with their team struggles this season despite his dominance?
[4:17] Speaker 6: But before we get into all that, as always, this
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[4:40] Speaker 6: versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So,
[4:44] Speaker 6: been a lot of hooping going on since the last
[4:45] Speaker 6: time we were on the couch.
[4:47] Speaker 1: What's up, y'all?
[4:48] Speaker 4: I know.
[4:48] Speaker 1: We're not in a rush.
[4:49] Speaker 4: No.
[4:50] Speaker 2: We're not in a rush.
[4:51] Speaker 1: Micro-machine man. Micro-machine man.
[4:52] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, he was doing the largest impression.
[4:56] Speaker 2: I'm like, slow it down.
[4:57] Speaker 4: Breathe. Breathe. For a second.
[5:00] Speaker 2: For me. Breathe for me. I'm trying to catch it.
[5:03] Speaker 4: I'm trying to catch it.
[5:04] Speaker 2: This is my.
[5:05] Speaker 1: Moment to shine before I have y'all talk.
[5:07] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[5:08] Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
[5:09] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[5:10] Speaker 4: I'm trying to. Is he speaking Spanish? Like, you was
[5:12] Speaker 4: here before.
[5:12] Speaker 1: Like, you was here before.
[5:14] Speaker 2: Like, you was here before. You work with Telemundo now.
[5:16] Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
[5:17] Speaker 2: You was on the telephone, though.
[5:21] Speaker 4: Go back a couple more years.
[5:24] Speaker 2: A couple more than that?
[5:25] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
[5:25] Speaker 5: You really didn't take that.
[5:26] Speaker 4: You look like you was a great salesman.
[5:28] Speaker 1: Oh, you a salesman?
[5:30] Speaker 4: Just a little lighter than it is. A couple more years?
[5:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little lighter than it is.
[5:33] Speaker 4: Just selling niggas.
[5:35] Speaker 2: Sold. Wow. To the white man in.
[5:44] Speaker 4: The back.
[5:44] Speaker 1: To the white man in the back.
[5:48] Speaker 2: You'd have been reincarnated.
[5:52] Speaker 6: Welcome back, Josiah. It is Monday, ladies and gentlemen, here
[5:55] Speaker 6: in the arena. All right, this is.
[5:57] Speaker 4: How we show up.
[5:57] Speaker 2: He set that one up.
[5:58] Speaker 1: I know, it's your first time, but this is.
[6:00] Speaker 2: How it goes from here. Like, we just see it like, hmm.
[6:04] Speaker 4: It's long-winded.
[6:06] Speaker 1: I've heard this before.
[6:07] Speaker 2: Uh....
[6:10] Speaker 1: One day, y'all will appreciate it. One day.
[6:13] Speaker 2: A lot of hooping going on.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Since the last time we were on the couch. I'm
[6:16] Speaker 1: going to try.
[6:17] Speaker 6: We got to show some love to a few guys
[6:19] Speaker 6: that balled out with hibachi time. We started hibachi time
[6:22] Speaker 6: early today. There was a lot of bucket getting going on.
[6:27] Speaker 6: Let's start with the Sixers. Joel and Bean returned to
[6:30] Speaker 6: the Sixers lineup after missing the last seven games dealing
[6:33] Speaker 6: with knee swelling. And in their first full game together,
[6:35] Speaker 6: the Sixers' big three gave Philly fans a reason for optimism.
[6:40] Speaker 1: So Embiid started the.
[6:41] Speaker 6: Game 0 for 7 for getting his first bucket early
[6:45] Speaker 6: in the second quarter. Proceeded to lead the Sixers with
[6:48] Speaker 6: 31 points while shooting 13 for 28 from the field,
[6:50] Speaker 6: along with 12 rebounds, four dimes, and two blocks. Tyrese
[6:53] Speaker 6: Maxey did his thing as well, getting his first career triple-double,
[6:57] Speaker 6: 25 points, 11 rebounds, and 14 assists. Washington Cook in
[7:01] Speaker 6: the zero.
[7:02] Speaker 2: Always love.
[7:03] Speaker 6: So Paul George added 12 points and seven rebounds. He
[7:05] Speaker 6: was 6 for 13 from the field. And as I mentioned,
[7:08] Speaker 6: the Sixers' big three. Got their first win together, but
[7:11] Speaker 6: let's watch a little bit of Embiid cooking.
[7:14] Speaker 1: Looked good.
[7:14] Speaker 6: That was his first game action since November 20th, and
[7:17] Speaker 6: that was also the last time that the Sixers' big
[7:19] Speaker 6: three played together, although PG left that game with a
[7:22] Speaker 6: hyperextended knee.
[7:24] Speaker 1: But Embiid out there getting it.
[7:26] Speaker 6: Embiid said it was good to be back on the floor.
[7:29] Speaker 6: He's been extremely depressed with his inability to be on
[7:33] Speaker 6: the court with his team this season.
[7:34] Speaker 4: Oh, what you got? Amber, what you got going down?
[7:38] Speaker 4: Drug deal.
[7:39] Speaker 2: Uh-oh. Moving.
[7:41] Speaker 1: Moving in the back.
[7:42] Speaker 2: Monet. Monet over there. The pickup.
[7:48] Speaker 4: Where's the drive?
[7:49] Speaker 6: We here.
[7:50] Speaker 2: We heard next to each other.
[7:52] Speaker 4: The whole time.
[7:53] Speaker 1: Like, I just finished watching BMF.
[7:54] Speaker 4: Like, that's crazy.
[7:56] Speaker 2: That's the same little ting, ting, ting, ting. I'm sorry.
[7:58] Speaker 7: Like, I'm sitting here watching.
[8:00] Speaker 1: I just heard it. Drug deal. But you said it's
[8:03] Speaker 1: those cows.
[8:03] Speaker 4: Drug deal.
[8:04] Speaker 2: I know that sound.
[8:05] Speaker 5: Franklin got a fire.
[8:05] Speaker 1: Are you the plug?
[8:06] Speaker 2: Are you the plug? We'll talk after.
[8:19] Speaker 4: All right.
[8:19] Speaker 1: I need a discount.
[8:20] Speaker 3: I need two on the line.
[8:21] Speaker 1: I need a house discount. You can get a couple.
[8:24] Speaker 6: But back to that 6-2, like I said, Big 3.
[8:26] Speaker 6: Second game playing together. First game, they lost to the Grizzlies.
[8:29] Speaker 6: PG got hurt in that game. Second game on the road,
[8:31] Speaker 6: Chicago against the Bulls.
[8:33] Speaker 1: Got the dub.
[8:34] Speaker 6: How did the 6-3 look in their first full game together?
[8:43] Speaker 1: No love for the 6-3.
[8:45] Speaker 3: They beat the Bulls by eight.
[8:46] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying.
[8:48] Speaker 2: A win is a win. Drummond was out there too, right?
[8:51] Speaker 2: So it was full strength for the first time. They
[8:54] Speaker 2: were out there getting it. I mean, if PG going
[8:56] Speaker 2: to play like Tobias Harris, they going to be the
[8:59] Speaker 2: same team they've been. Is that not an accurate statement?
[9:04] Speaker 2: You're going to give me 12 points for every round,
[9:06] Speaker 2: five assists. You're doing what Tobias was doing.
[9:10] Speaker 5: But they should get that dub.
[9:12] Speaker 1: They should. They should have gotten a lot of wins
[9:14] Speaker 1: this season. They have not.
[9:16] Speaker 5: Did you say this was Embiid's first game back?
[9:18] Speaker 1: So he missed seven games with Nice Willing.
[9:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:21] Speaker 3: This is all three together.
[9:22] Speaker 6: But all three together playing for the second time this season,
[9:25] Speaker 6: their first full game together.
[9:28] Speaker 1: Maxie with a triple-double. 30-12.
[9:33] Speaker 2: I mean... Then the rest of y'all moving around out there,
[9:38] Speaker 2: trying to get what you can get.
[9:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Drummond only played seven minutes in the game.
[9:42] Speaker 1: He had four points, but.
[9:44] Speaker 2: What did PG do?
[9:45] Speaker 6: PG, 12 points, 6 for 13 from the field, 0
[9:49] Speaker 6: for 5 from 3, though, in the game. Did have
[9:51] Speaker 6: 7 rebounds and 2 steals, though. Obviously not 7.
[9:54] Speaker 1: Looking like Bradley Beal out there. Trying to figure it out.
[10:01] Speaker 1: But no love for the Sixers getting you know Roman.
[10:06] Speaker 5: It's nice to get a win.
[10:07] Speaker 1: But you got to dominate the teams.
[10:09] Speaker 4: You got to dominate.
[10:10] Speaker 1: You got to send a message.
[10:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:11] Speaker 1: That was supposed to be a send a message game
[10:13] Speaker 1: to the East. Like alright we're back.
[10:15] Speaker 3: Here we are.
[10:15] Speaker 2: 30 point blowout. Next game, we'll show you what you got.
[10:20] Speaker 8: Okay.
[10:21] Speaker 6: Well, the Sixers have won four of their last five games,
[10:24] Speaker 6: but they're 7-15 on the season currently, 12th in the East.
[10:27] Speaker 6: They only have one back-to-back, though, in their next nine games,
[10:30] Speaker 6: have a favorable schedule in that window, but they do
[10:32] Speaker 6: play the Celtics and the Cavs in that window, but
[10:34] Speaker 6: they got games against the Hornets, some other teams that
[10:37] Speaker 6: are currently struggling. What's your expectation for the Sixers if
[10:39] Speaker 6: their big three can stay healthy this season or healthy
[10:42] Speaker 6: enough to actually put a good sample size together?
[10:52] Speaker 1: All right, girl.
[10:54] Speaker 5: Just silence.
[10:57] Speaker 3: Y'all got something?
[10:59] Speaker 2: I got nothing. I got nothing. I got nothing. I
[11:01] Speaker 2: got nothing.
[11:02] Speaker 4: I got nothing. I got nothing.
[11:04] Speaker 2: I got nothing. I got nothing.
[11:05] Speaker 4: I got nothing.
[11:06] Speaker 1: I got nothing.
[11:07] Speaker 2: I got nothing. I got nothing. I don't know what's on.
[11:14] Speaker 4: We done heard it all before.
[11:15] Speaker 1: We done heard it all before. Yeah. Yeah.
[11:19] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[11:19] Speaker 2: I remember that.
[11:20] Speaker 4: Oh, this is it.
[11:21] Speaker 1: It's done.
[11:21] Speaker 4: They done. I don't think they've seen it.
[11:23] Speaker 1: That's it.
[11:24] Speaker 3: They're done.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Very done. 22 games in the season, you're telling me
[11:27] Speaker 1: the Sixers are done. One for their last five. Just
[11:30] Speaker 1: like the Bucs.
[11:31] Speaker 4: Just like we said with the Bucs.
[11:32] Speaker 5: No, you think they're done?
[11:33] Speaker 4: They're in the Eastern Conference. We call it cooked. I'm
[11:37] Speaker 4: watching him be and how he's moving. And....
[11:43] Speaker 3: Reality is here. His knee is done.
[11:46] Speaker 4: Right? This is it. This is that athlete who most
[11:52] Speaker 4: likely the cartilage is gone from his knee.
[11:54] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[11:55] Speaker 4: And he's out there with no break pad.
[11:58] Speaker 3: There's only so.
[11:59] Speaker 4: Much time before you can, before you're going to go
[12:02] Speaker 4: back because it's irritated. So you being who you were
[12:06] Speaker 4: to really do something, it's not going to happen.
[12:10] Speaker 5: So then why is he playing?
[12:12] Speaker 1: Because he loves basketball. He's at the Chris Webber stage
[12:17] Speaker 1: with Philly.
[12:19] Speaker 2: He's at the stage where he can still contribute, give
[12:22] Speaker 2: you 30 and 12 with cartilage in the knee. It's
[12:25] Speaker 2: that young B.
[12:26] Speaker 4: Roy, young Brandon Roy, coming in already got the cartilage
[12:31] Speaker 4: is gone, right? So he's going to show signs of greatness.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Right.
[12:35] Speaker 4: But the fact that you don't have it anymore going
[12:38] Speaker 4: up and down every day, you're not going to play
[12:39] Speaker 4: 82 games. You're probably not going to play 60 games anymore. Right.
[12:43] Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where you are very limited.
[12:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:47] Speaker 5: So it's a matter of time before he's out another
[12:49] Speaker 5: four or five.
[12:51] Speaker 4: Six games.
[12:52] Speaker 1: You got to use him like a designated hitter.
[12:56] Speaker 5: How do you do that in basketball?
[12:58] Speaker 1: In basketball, he's only going to play 50, 60 games, right? Yeah.
[13:02] Speaker 1: You make those 50, 60 games count when you play?
[13:04] Speaker 6: Only play four of the Sixers' first 22 games this season.
[13:08] Speaker 2: So would you play him early or would you contain
[13:11] Speaker 2: him early, prepare him early?
[13:13] Speaker 6: Well, he's been contained, you know what I'm saying? He's
[13:16] Speaker 6: only played four of those 22 games.
[13:17] Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying if you've got a fresh year of
[13:19] Speaker 2: a healthy Embiid, you're going to play him 50 or
[13:23] Speaker 2: 55 games knowing that going in. What 55 games are
[13:28] Speaker 2: you going to play? That's the point. That's how you
[13:31] Speaker 2: use him as far as a designated hitter. Designated hitter
[13:33] Speaker 2: don't play defense. Come in and he.
[13:35] Speaker 1: Hit the ball. That's it.
[13:37] Speaker 2: Well, what?
[13:38] Speaker 1: He's a designated hooper. Designated hooper.
[13:41] Speaker 2: Come in and hooper the big game.
[13:43] Speaker 5: I don't know. What's the goal for the team?
[13:47] Speaker 6: They had championship aspirations coming into the season.
[13:50] Speaker 1: Had being the key word in that sense. I don't think, obviously,
[13:53] Speaker 1: they're not ready to throw in the towel. I feel
[13:55] Speaker 1: like a lot of us in the media feel like
[13:57] Speaker 1: it ain't looking good right now. But this is the squad, though.
[14:01] Speaker 6: If they can lock in and play some games together,
[14:03] Speaker 6: and it don't got to be much, 30, 40, maybe.
[14:08] Speaker 6: It's the Eastern Conference. How old does LeBron look when
[14:14] Speaker 6: he out there?
[14:17] Speaker 1: About 35.
[14:18] Speaker 2: 35.
[14:18] Speaker 4: No, no, no, man.
[14:19] Speaker 1: You younger than that, you think, though.
[14:21] Speaker 4: No, I mean.
[14:21] Speaker 6: He looked 39, but he played like he.
[14:23] Speaker 4: Embiid's body is older than LeBron's. By probably a decade.
[14:31] Speaker 5: Wow.
[14:32] Speaker 3: You can see it.
[14:33] Speaker 4: Like, you can... Like, you... How do we look that
[14:37] Speaker 4: first time we come back? When we come back, we
[14:39] Speaker 4: done been sitting for... We done been sitting for about two,
[14:42] Speaker 4: three weeks. When we come back, that first... We look
[14:46] Speaker 4: like we really ready. Like, yeah. It's the aftermath.
[14:50] Speaker 2: Like, oh, shit.
[14:51] Speaker 4: I don't think I was ready for that. He looked
[14:54] Speaker 4: like the second day.
[14:55] Speaker 2: Like, oh, shit.
[14:56] Speaker 7: He's feeling everything.
[14:58] Speaker 4: He's feeling it when he go out there. There's just
[14:59] Speaker 4: nothing he can do. That cartilage is gone. You might
[15:04] Speaker 4: as well just get up off of it.
[15:05] Speaker 2: I mean.
[15:07] Speaker 4: Now, you got a Lambo, right? You know it's crashed.
[15:10] Speaker 5: You can't be like, I don't know.
[15:12] Speaker 2: Ain't no way. Ain't no way. Ain't no way.
[15:15] Speaker 1: You know. You never know.
[15:18] Speaker 6: A little bit of optimism on a Monday.
[15:20] Speaker 2: Here in the arena. I mean, you know.
[15:22] Speaker 7: You might go get that little, you know, injection on
[15:25] Speaker 7: his knee.
[15:26] Speaker 1: That's what he look like he doing out there.
[15:29] Speaker 5: But even in doing that, that's only going to last
[15:32] Speaker 5: for so long.
[15:34] Speaker 2: Your career only lasts but so long.
[15:39] Speaker 5: You think your career is over?
[15:40] Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, if this is countdown to the
[15:44] Speaker 2: end of your career, make the best of it. Yeah.
[15:50] Speaker 4: Why not?
[15:51] Speaker 1: Why chip away at it.
[15:53] Speaker 2: And compartmentalize all the little things you can do and
[15:56] Speaker 2: do it all now? Shit, like you said, you can
[15:57] Speaker 2: get the shot and it made me feel good for
[15:59] Speaker 2: 60 games. Fuck it.
[16:01] Speaker 1: Do the shot. Get it done.
[16:02] Speaker 7: And what you saving it for?
[16:03] Speaker 2: Is that on the line where you really can't use
[16:07] Speaker 2: it and you got to be relegated to 12 a game? Seven,
[16:11] Speaker 2: 12 or seven because you only your last leg and
[16:13] Speaker 2: you can barely move it. If I can move this
[16:15] Speaker 2: bitch now, let me go ahead and rack up these points,
[16:17] Speaker 2: get in this rack of books.
[16:19] Speaker 1: Get a championship at least. At least try.
[16:22] Speaker 2: He didn't look that bad to me. 30 and 12,
[16:24] Speaker 2: he looked like he was in shape.
[16:28] Speaker 1: He looked solid.
[16:29] Speaker 2: He didn't look like.
[16:29] Speaker 4: He looked solid.
[16:30] Speaker 2: But I know what you're saying, like, down the line,
[16:34] Speaker 2: it affects you, and you don't got shit in there
[16:37] Speaker 2: clicking in there anyway, so I feel it.
[16:39] Speaker 1: I see. He look good, though.
[16:41] Speaker 4: He look good the way he looked out there now.
[16:43] Speaker 4: Right now, it's probably just more pain and swelling. A
[16:46] Speaker 4: whole bunch of injecting out the fluid. trying to keep
[16:50] Speaker 4: the pain down, so you got to take pain pills,
[16:55] Speaker 4: cortisone shots, reginocon.
[16:58] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[16:58] Speaker 4: You're sitting there, that's all he's going to be sitting
[17:00] Speaker 4: there pumping his body up.
[17:02] Speaker 6: Six only have, what, three games in the next 12 days,
[17:05] Speaker 6: 11 days, so they don't play again until Friday against
[17:08] Speaker 6: the Pacers, who have also been struggling this season. Then
[17:10] Speaker 6: they got two games against the Hornets Monday, the following week.
[17:13] Speaker 3: Friday, Monday.
[17:15] Speaker 1: Friday, and then Friday that week again. Friday, Monday, Friday? Yeah.
[17:18] Speaker 1: And see the tournament, NBA Cup, Gil.
[17:20] Speaker 2: Oh, if it's old school, he doing the same shit
[17:23] Speaker 2: everybody was doing throughout the whole course of the NBA,
[17:26] Speaker 2: draining their knee, trying to play on a bad knee,
[17:28] Speaker 2: a bad wheel, whatever it is. He just, hey, it's
[17:32] Speaker 2: the first time we seen it in a while. Some
[17:34] Speaker 2: guys do it, some guys don't.
[17:38] Speaker 6: But still, some level of optimism. I think a couple
[17:40] Speaker 6: weeks ago, we were like, ooh, throwing the towel, and
[17:42] Speaker 6: B should probably just.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Move around for the rest of the season.
[17:48] Speaker 3: What changed?
[17:48] Speaker 5: Hey, my third got 30.
[17:50] Speaker 2: I mean, last time he came out, he had 30.
[17:52] Speaker 1: Shit changed. No, he had 12.
[17:54] Speaker 2: He had 12 when he came out.
[17:58] Speaker 6: So he started this game 0 for 7, finished the
[18:00] Speaker 6: game 13 for 21 from the field, 13 for 28 overall,
[18:03] Speaker 6: but looking a.
[18:04] Speaker 1: Little shaky, a little janky initially.
[18:06] Speaker 7: He had to get warmed up.
[18:07] Speaker 1: But from that second quarter on.
[18:09] Speaker 3: He had to kick in.
[18:10] Speaker 2: He had to kick in. There it go.
[18:15] Speaker 4: There it go.
[18:15] Speaker 2: Click, click, click.
[18:16] Speaker 7: Like old school, huh?
[18:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, old school.
[18:21] Speaker 6: Click, click, click. Oh, there it go. But we'll see.
[18:25] Speaker 6: I'm not quite as down on the Sixers as I was.
[18:27] Speaker 6: They done.
[18:29] Speaker 3: They done.
[18:30] Speaker 1: It's the Easter conference.
[18:32] Speaker 4: Ten teams get in.
[18:34] Speaker 1: They gonna be all right.
[18:35] Speaker 3: All it is, I mean.
[18:37] Speaker 4: If you know there's a hole in the cup, like,
[18:41] Speaker 4: get a new cup.
[18:42] Speaker 1: What the fuck?
[18:45] Speaker 4: Get a new cup, pour the rest of that shit
[18:47] Speaker 4: in there, and you savor it. You over here trying
[18:49] Speaker 4: to figure out how.
[18:49] Speaker 2: To put Band-Aids on it.
[18:50] Speaker 4: Don't keep putting Band-Aids on it.
[18:53] Speaker 2: No.
[18:53] Speaker 4: Go get a new cup, pour the rest of the
[18:54] Speaker 4: juice you got left in that cup.
[18:56] Speaker 2: What you saying is.
[18:59] Speaker 1: Start a new process?
[19:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to trade them. I'm going to trade
[19:04] Speaker 4: them to get back Like, I need to get back
[19:10] Speaker 4: something now. Like, Philly, you have two good guards that
[19:13] Speaker 4: you can start building your team around. Yeah, so if
[19:16] Speaker 4: you can get rid of Embiid for something good, right?
[19:22] Speaker 4: Future something. Like, I mean, you know, see if Houston
[19:26] Speaker 4: want to do some things with them young boys over there.
[19:28] Speaker 4: See if Magic want to do some things. Shit, see
[19:31] Speaker 4: if OKC want to do some things, right?
[19:34] Speaker 1: Like, you.
[19:35] Speaker 4: We're good enough, like, you go to OKC, and you
[19:39] Speaker 4: get rid of the right pieces and some draft picks,
[19:41] Speaker 4: he can play fucking 25 right games, and he can
[19:45] Speaker 4: possibly win the championship.
[19:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, she does dance. Who's untouchable in the NBA right now?
[19:50] Speaker 3: Untouchable? Luka, Jokic, Wimby, SGA, Ja.
[20:07] Speaker 1: They brusting untouchable?
[20:08] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[20:09] Speaker 2: Ant-Man.
[20:11] Speaker 4: Ant-Man. Ant-Man. Probably a little mellow ball, but those are
[20:16] Speaker 4: going towards the end. You throw the right shit at
[20:19] Speaker 4: one of those teams, they're fucking around gold. But just untouchable,
[20:22] Speaker 4: that they're not even talking.
[20:24] Speaker 3: Just those four, probably.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Everybody else can be traded. Steph?
[20:30] Speaker 4: What? No.
[20:32] Speaker 3: Steph, right now?
[20:33] Speaker 9: What?
[20:34] Speaker 1: Tatum?
[20:34] Speaker 4: No. Steph, right now? Trade it.
[20:37] Speaker 1: Wardell, Steph? Trade it.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[20:39] Speaker 10: Right now you don't think he's untouchable if somebody throw
[20:44] Speaker 10: the right stuff for what's the right if somebody say
[20:46] Speaker 10: yo i'll give you yannis or if i give you.
[20:50] Speaker 4: Um who would i trace that for let's say if
[20:56] Speaker 4: they if if denver says i'll give you yoki jen
[21:00] Speaker 4: uh murray.
[21:01] Speaker 3: Would you do it if you go to state Yeah.
[21:04] Speaker 2: Okay.
[21:05] Speaker 4: You're supposed to say no. Yeah, but I was.
[21:10] Speaker 7: But that's what I'm saying.
[21:11] Speaker 5: But that's not going to happen.
[21:12] Speaker 4: That's not going to happen, though. Other people are not
[21:15] Speaker 4: going to.
[21:16] Speaker 5: Well, to put it that way, I was like, damn.
[21:17] Speaker 5: I had to think about it.
[21:19] Speaker 4: But, yeah. Yeah.
[21:21] Speaker 5: But that's never going to happen.
[21:23] Speaker 4: As I said, you know, like, teams that's ready to just, like,
[21:26] Speaker 4: you can throw something at Sacramento right now. Like, teams
[21:31] Speaker 4: that just got a bunch of pieces that they don't
[21:32] Speaker 4: know what to do with. If you're feeling you can throw,
[21:35] Speaker 4: he gonna take you over the top.
[21:37] Speaker 1: So you're saying it's time to stop trusting the process.
[21:41] Speaker 4: If you are being real with yourself, you know what
[21:44] Speaker 4: it is, if you know his knee is gone, there's
[21:48] Speaker 4: nothing you can do about it. You can't, there's no
[21:51] Speaker 4: amount of time that he can sit that when he
[21:54] Speaker 4: comes back, Five games later, it's not going to be
[21:57] Speaker 4: irritated again.
[21:58] Speaker 6: Yeah, and Embiid said it wasn't like a new injury.
[22:00] Speaker 6: It was just really just a swelling. Just irritating.
[22:02] Speaker 4: That's what I said. It reminds me of the Brendan Roy, right?
[22:05] Speaker 4: He goes out there, he gives you, you know, his
[22:07] Speaker 4: 48 minutes real hard, and then, you know, from there,
[22:11] Speaker 4: it's just going to be sore for a couple days.
[22:13] Speaker 4: And he's back, and then it's sore, then it's back. Eventually,
[22:15] Speaker 4: just mentally, you can't take it.
[22:19] Speaker 1: Well, we will see how things progress.
[22:21] Speaker 6: We asked the chat, should the Sixers trade Joel Embiid? 73%
[22:25] Speaker 6: said yes.
[22:26] Speaker 3: Wow.
[22:27] Speaker 2: Ooh.
[22:29] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[22:29] Speaker 6: Okay, looks like they agree with you, Gil. All right, well, let's...
[22:32] Speaker 6: GM Gil. Let's keep this moving. GM Gilly, let's keep
[22:36] Speaker 6: this moving.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Come on, it's the Lakers.
[22:40] Speaker 6: We got enough injury issues over to be good. We
[22:43] Speaker 6: don't need the janky knees. But after the Grizzlies lost
[22:46] Speaker 6: to the Mavs last week, Ja Morant said his dunking
[22:49] Speaker 6: days might be coming to an end. Thankfully, that vow
[22:52] Speaker 6: didn't make it through the weekend as Ja couldn't pass
[22:54] Speaker 6: up the opportunity to add another victim to his poster collection.
[22:59] Speaker 6: Midway through the third quarter, Ja drove baseline hip-horzingus with
[23:03] Speaker 6: the double-clutch reverse dunk.
[23:06] Speaker 1: That is up there as one of the best. poster
[23:08] Speaker 1: of his career.
[23:08] Speaker 2: Let's take a couple more looks at it. That's crazy.
[23:13] Speaker 2: Obviously Porzingis.
[23:16] Speaker 1: High level rear protector. That's what's crazy about it.
[23:20] Speaker 2: He did it from the same baseline that Vince did.
[23:24] Speaker 1: Very Vince-esque with the dunk.
[23:26] Speaker 6: So in addition to the Porzingis poster, Ja finished with
[23:28] Speaker 6: a season-high 32 points, along with nine dimes and nine
[23:31] Speaker 6: rebounds as the Grizzlies got the win in Marcus Smart's
[23:33] Speaker 6: first game back in Boston. Win also snapped the Grizzlies'
[23:36] Speaker 6: 10-game losing streak to the Celtics. and was Boston's third
[23:39] Speaker 6: home loss this season. So after the game, Ja had
[23:42] Speaker 6: this to say about backtracking on his no dunking statement.
[23:45] Speaker 2: You dunked tonight.
[23:46] Speaker 1: Can you explain yourself?
[23:48] Speaker 2: I felt like if I did, poor Zing was going
[23:50] Speaker 2: to block it. So I really wanted to go to
[23:54] Speaker 2: the reverse, but, you know, hey, another one.
[23:57] Speaker 1: Another one.
[23:58] Speaker 6: So you're happy to see Ja pump fake everybody by
[24:01] Speaker 6: dunking after saying he wasn't going to do it anymore.
[24:04] Speaker 1: It's enjoyable. This is what he brings to the game.
[24:06] Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, just like any super athlete, man, there's
[24:14] Speaker 4: just certain things you just can't take out your game. Yeah,
[24:18] Speaker 4: even when Vince tried it. The moments are going to come,
[24:23] Speaker 4: and you're going to take them every single time.
[24:25] Speaker 3: There was no way.
[24:26] Speaker 4: That was nasty.
[24:29] Speaker 6: I don't think he intended to do that. Obviously, when
[24:32] Speaker 6: he drove baseline, the situation called for it. And that's
[24:35] Speaker 6: just one of those things where if I got to
[24:37] Speaker 6: dunk it, I got to dunk it. Our lover Porzingis
[24:41] Speaker 6: is dumb. Shaw, you happy to see Jai? We talked
[24:46] Speaker 6: about it. Jai without Dunkin', I don't know.
[24:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't make any sense. Like Pookie without crack.
[24:51] Speaker 2: I don't think his spirit would allow it. His spirit
[24:53] Speaker 2: wouldn't allow it.
[24:55] Speaker 1: There's no way... They go together. Yeah.
[24:57] Speaker 2: There's no way he's going to be able to, like,
[25:00] Speaker 2: contain that. It's like an allergic reaction. It's like a sneeze.
[25:06] Speaker 2: Can't control it.
[25:07] Speaker 4: Once....
[25:09] Speaker 2: Ooh, you got to get that shit up out of there.
[25:12] Speaker 4: Get up out of there.
[25:13] Speaker 2: Bless you.
[25:15] Speaker 1: He blessed him, didn't he? And that's what happened.
[25:18] Speaker 4: He did.
[25:19] Speaker 1: That's what happened. He can't control that shit. No matter
[25:22] Speaker 1: how much he try. So Grizzlies are 9-1 their last
[25:26] Speaker 1: 10 games.
[25:27] Speaker 3: I'm jealous.
[25:28] Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
[25:29] Speaker 5: Why?
[25:31] Speaker 4: Because.
[25:35] Speaker 4: When you jump that high, that shit you probably get
[25:38] Speaker 4: to think of when you up there.
[25:42] Speaker 1: Like, you see dunks like that, him, Vince, right?
[25:45] Speaker 4: And you just be like, what's going through y'all brains?
[25:50] Speaker 5: He made that look really easy.
[25:52] Speaker 7: Too easy.
[25:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[25:54] Speaker 4: To, what? What do you think?
[25:56] Speaker 2: You drove baseline, you.
[25:57] Speaker 4: Sitting there trying to figure out how to get the bump,
[25:59] Speaker 4: get the lay. You up there sitting there with the
[26:02] Speaker 4: double pump. Come on.
[26:05] Speaker 1: You went way down.
[26:06] Speaker 7: Way down. I was going to reverse, but.
[26:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going, yeah.
[26:10] Speaker 1: I was going, what?
[26:11] Speaker 7: Like, this is what you was thinking about?
[26:13] Speaker 4: I was thinking about just, you know, hitting him with
[26:14] Speaker 4: the hang time and then realized his hand went there,
[26:17] Speaker 4: had to go in.
[26:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:18] Speaker 4: And then this man went here, so I'm like, fuck it,
[26:19] Speaker 4: let me just go up back in. I was like, what?
[26:21] Speaker 4: He was going to block my shot.
[26:23] Speaker 7: All while I'm in there.
[26:24] Speaker 4: All while I'm in there. You did all that, I'm
[26:25] Speaker 4: back on defense, goddammit, because I had to lay in
[26:27] Speaker 4: there and fuck. You up there calculating extra shit, that's it.
[26:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah.
[26:33] Speaker 3: They've always been jealous of dunkers, man.
[26:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, buddy.
[26:37] Speaker 5: No, you didn't dunk.
[26:38] Speaker 4: Damn! Yeah.
[26:40] Speaker 7: But he didn't done like that.
[26:41] Speaker 4: Yeah. Come in, try to sneak somebody.
[26:44] Speaker 2: Ah!
[26:46] Speaker 4: Not just coming in the lane doing all kind of
[26:49] Speaker 4: extra shit.
[26:49] Speaker 2: Like, oh, psych.
[26:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's different.
[26:53] Speaker 4: Psych?
[26:53] Speaker 2: Yes.
[26:54] Speaker 9: Like, no.
[26:54] Speaker 7: He did that.
[26:56] Speaker 4: Them different.
[26:56] Speaker 1: Them different. I'm trying to get my two points.
[26:59] Speaker 2: That's what we all, everybody wished to get that kind
[27:01] Speaker 2: of hops. Like, man, if I had them kind of hops.
[27:03] Speaker 4: They got Vince Carter sitting at YC down there.
[27:06] Speaker 2: Boom.
[27:07] Speaker 4: Lean on you.
[27:07] Speaker 1: Take a picture.
[27:09] Speaker 2: Take a picture.
[27:10] Speaker 4: Did you see Ashlyn Watkins' dumpster yesterday?
[27:14] Speaker 5: Yeah. That was kind of nice.
[27:16] Speaker 2: It was.
[27:16] Speaker 5: That was kind of nice.
[27:17] Speaker 1: What y'all share with the girl?
[27:19] Speaker 5: No, I asked her if she saw the girl from
[27:21] Speaker 5: South Carolina. It was actually really nice. And Sedona Prince
[27:26] Speaker 5: tried to block it. Did you see it?
[27:29] Speaker 4: Yeah. Came in the lane?
[27:31] Speaker 5: It was nice.
[27:35] Speaker 4: And someone tried to block it?
[27:36] Speaker 5: She was chasing her down, and she jumped. And Ashlyn just, like,
[27:41] Speaker 5: threw it down.
[27:42] Speaker 3: Probably hit all shoulder, didn't she?
[27:43] Speaker 5: Threw it down.
[27:49] Speaker 4: I can't.
[27:50] Speaker 7: I can't with him.
[27:52] Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself, y'all.
[27:56] Speaker 6: If you feel the urge, just, girl, walk on the
[27:58] Speaker 6: ground and choke him out.
[27:59] Speaker 5: You can, because I can.
[28:01] Speaker 4: She probably jumped, hit the shoulder and everything. Anything goes
[28:03] Speaker 4: in the arena.
[28:05] Speaker 5: You didn't respond to my message either.
[28:06] Speaker 3: You didn't text me.
[28:08] Speaker 5: I commented on a post. You were at your daughter's game.
[28:12] Speaker 1: Gilding harder.
[28:13] Speaker 5: And I said, did they make their layups?
[28:18] Speaker 4: And he ignored it.
[28:19] Speaker 5: Can you comment?
[28:20] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
[28:23] Speaker 2: Oh, this, oh.
[28:24] Speaker 4: It was.
[28:24] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[28:26] Speaker 4: I can answer that now.
[28:27] Speaker 1: No, hell no.
[28:27] Speaker 4: 47 missed layups, boy. It was not. It was not.
[28:33] Speaker 5: It's not that.
[28:35] Speaker 1: They be missing them layups.
[28:36] Speaker 9: What?
[28:36] Speaker 2: They be janking them layups. One thing they gonna do
[28:39] Speaker 2: is if one thing they gonna do, they gonna smoke
[28:41] Speaker 2: a layup. Why?
[28:41] Speaker 4: But only girls miss layups.
[28:42] Speaker 2: Nah, nah.
[28:43] Speaker 1: Man, at this rate.
[28:44] Speaker 2: Guys miss layups all the time.
[28:46] Speaker 4: At this rate, though? At this rate?
[28:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. It's smoking.
[28:48] Speaker 4: Y'all boys miss layups all the time.
[28:49] Speaker 1: In the backyard, smoking layups.
[28:51] Speaker 2: Yep.
[28:52] Speaker 7: I just went to a boys' game, and they was like.
[28:54] Speaker 4: They miss layups all the time. In comparison.
[28:56] Speaker 2: They're missing lays, right? Comparison, yeah.
[29:00] Speaker 4: Get again.
[29:01] Speaker 7: What is that?
[29:02] Speaker 2: Throw it. What is that?
[29:04] Speaker 4: Throw it.
[29:04] Speaker 2: You be sitting there like, why'd you shoot that? Throw it.
[29:08] Speaker 4: Throw it. That's all they're hearing.
[29:09] Speaker 7: Throw it.
[29:10] Speaker 4: Listen, no.
[29:11] Speaker 5: All the time.
[29:12] Speaker 1: No.
[29:12] Speaker 4: I seen... Not one.
[29:15] Speaker 2: Time, but at least four.
[29:17] Speaker 4: The ball bounced. The rim's here.
[29:19] Speaker 3: The ball bounced. Got the ball like this. And then
[29:22] Speaker 3: just threw it behind. Like, wait, no.
[29:24] Speaker 1: You can't.
[29:26] Speaker 7: No.
[29:26] Speaker 4: You can't do that.
[29:28] Speaker 2: Like, you literally can't do a reverse layup.
[29:30] Speaker 4: Not a reverse layup.
[29:31] Speaker 1: Just to say, watch me.
[29:32] Speaker 2: Watch me. Watch me. I can do it. I can
[29:35] Speaker 2: do anything.
[29:36] Speaker 1: Watch me.
[29:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder why the score is 17-12 in the fourth.
[29:40] Speaker 3: Quarter.
[29:42] Speaker 5: Gil, don't act like boys don't miss layups, though.
[29:45] Speaker 1: No, they do. Yeah. I know.
[29:48] Speaker 5: So don't do that.
[29:50] Speaker 1: The couch is divided right now. We need to unify. No,
[29:53] Speaker 1: I'm just ad-libbing. I'm just ad-libbing.
[29:55] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[29:56] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[29:56] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing.
[29:56] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[29:57] Speaker 1: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[29:58] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[30:00] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:01] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:01] Speaker 1: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:02] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[30:03] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[30:04] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:04] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:05] Speaker 1: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:05] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:06] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:07] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:07] Speaker 2: I'm ad-libbing.
[30:07] Speaker 4: I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing. I'm ad-libbing.
[30:10] Speaker 1: I'm ad- for the top spot.
[30:20] Speaker 4: I didn't realize that. Second in the West.
[30:22] Speaker 1: Are the Grizzlies for real or Fugazi?
[30:27] Speaker 5: Are they second in the West?
[30:29] Speaker 3: Right now.
[30:32] Speaker 4: See, one game, you in seventh. Right?
[30:35] Speaker 3: Right, it's just one of those.
[30:37] Speaker 4: Facts.
[30:39] Speaker 1: They're comfortable spots, yeah, but.
[30:42] Speaker 4: Everyone's solid. I mean, it's a solid team.
[30:44] Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a championship team.
[30:46] Speaker 6: I don't even say championship team, but this looks like... Like,
[30:49] Speaker 6: when you say Fugazi, what do you mean? Do we
[30:51] Speaker 6: feel like that second place in the West will last?
[30:54] Speaker 1: No. Like, years pass, or are they more in line? Like,
[31:01] Speaker 1: got Ja healthy.
[31:01] Speaker 3: What is it, about a four? Like, a legit four
[31:03] Speaker 3: or five?
[31:04] Speaker 1: In the West?
[31:06] Speaker 5: The Grizzlies?
[31:08] Speaker 1: They're not going past three.
[31:10] Speaker 4: Mm.
[31:12] Speaker 3: You think they're going to finish what?
[31:14] Speaker 2: Four.
[31:14] Speaker 1: Four or something? You think Grizzlies top four team in
[31:18] Speaker 1: the West? Yeah, they won't go past three, though. Is
[31:20] Speaker 1: that a team that could be sneaky, though, in this postseason?
[31:22] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[31:23] Speaker 1: It may not even sneak.
[31:24] Speaker 2: They started to learn how to use Zach Eady with
[31:26] Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson.
[31:26] Speaker 1: So Eady, I think, hurt right now.
[31:28] Speaker 3: Man, Eady ain't played since October, man.
[31:30] Speaker 1: He been hurt.
[31:32] Speaker 3: If that's what you want to call it.
[31:33] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[31:35] Speaker 3: He just ain't been there, man.
[31:36] Speaker 5: What's his injury?
[31:37] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[31:38] Speaker 1: I ain't looked into it. You don't know? I know
[31:41] Speaker 1: Jen Jackson's been playing good, though.
[31:44] Speaker 4: Gigi hasn't came back yet, either.
[31:45] Speaker 5: I like this team.
[31:46] Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
[31:47] Speaker 7: I like this team.
[31:48] Speaker 4: If they all come back in there.
[31:49] Speaker 1: So, Edie got an ankle injury for two months?
[31:54] Speaker 7: Got a high spring.
[31:56] Speaker 5: A real high spring.
[31:57] Speaker 4: You're a big boy.
[31:58] Speaker 6: You know, big man foot injury.
[32:01] Speaker 5: A real high spring.
[32:03] Speaker 4: Serious?
[32:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. So, his return just put on hold.
[32:07] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's possible to.
[32:08] Speaker 5: Have an ankle injury... and be out for two months.
[32:12] Speaker 6: But week to week. But obviously, you know, in the
[32:15] Speaker 6: time he did play.
[32:16] Speaker 4: In today's NBA?
[32:21] Speaker 3: I've never... You've never heard of it?
[32:23] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[32:23] Speaker 2: Who?
[32:25] Speaker 1: It's different degrees of ankle injuries. First, second, and third
[32:30] Speaker 1: degree ankles.
[32:30] Speaker 3: Which one's the worst?
[32:31] Speaker 1: Third.
[32:33] Speaker 3: And how long have you been out for that one?
[32:35] Speaker 2: Months.
[32:37] Speaker 5: It is possible.
[32:38] Speaker 3: Is that like when ligaments or something?
[32:40] Speaker 2: Well, you just kind of like, you don't tear them,
[32:42] Speaker 2: but you strain them. Shit turn purple and black and
[32:45] Speaker 2: all that. Okay.
[32:48] Speaker 3: So they don't inject nothing for that?
[32:50] Speaker 7: No.
[32:51] Speaker 1: It hasn't played since November 17th. No, no.
[32:54] Speaker 4: That's why it's like two weeks.
[32:56] Speaker 1: It's like they just let you sit out for two weeks.
[32:59] Speaker 6: Week to week, but try to test it out. I
[33:01] Speaker 6: believe last week wasn't feeling like so.
[33:03] Speaker 4: I know back when I started, they had a little
[33:06] Speaker 4: thing called DMSO You hurt your ankle. They rub that
[33:11] Speaker 4: little stuff. What was it called?
[33:12] Speaker 2: DMSO.
[33:14] Speaker 4: It should have been part of your... DMSO. Uh-huh. So
[33:17] Speaker 4: it was like a carrier for injuries. So like, you know,
[33:25] Speaker 4: if it was illegal stuff you wanted to use, like,
[33:28] Speaker 4: you know, drugs or anything, and you don't want to
[33:31] Speaker 4: use needles, you just put it inside of the DMSO
[33:34] Speaker 4: and put it on your skin and it carries it through.
[33:38] Speaker 3: It's a carrier. So it's a carrier.
[33:39] Speaker 2: So what happens is.
[33:40] Speaker 5: I don't remember that.
[33:41] Speaker 4: Like, you put whatever the medicine is inside of it
[33:44] Speaker 4: and then put your ankle on, just wrap it.
[33:46] Speaker 5: We couldn't afford that in the WNBA.
[33:47] Speaker 7: That's why overseas they had that spray.
[33:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[33:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[33:51] Speaker 7: The ice cold spray.
[33:52] Speaker 1: The spray.
[33:52] Speaker 5: We had the spray.
[33:53] Speaker 1: What does that actually do?
[33:55] Speaker 2: I see it in soccer.
[33:56] Speaker 4: They just be hitting it with the.
[33:57] Speaker 1: Rope and the next thing you know.
[33:59] Speaker 4: I think DMSO is banned in the U.S.
[34:01] Speaker 6: Now.
[34:01] Speaker 7: Yeah, because I'm like, no, mine still hurt.
[34:03] Speaker 5: We couldn't afford that in the W.
[34:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's banned now.
[34:06] Speaker 1: They banned it.
[34:07] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[34:07] Speaker 5: Girl overseas, any injury, they pull out that spray.
[34:10] Speaker 2: Yes. They use it for horses.
[34:12] Speaker 3: When they want to put steroids in horses.
[34:14] Speaker 5: The DMSO?
[34:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's a carrier. So whatever you want to use,
[34:17] Speaker 4: you use it.
[34:18] Speaker 5: I really didn't know that. Oh, wow.
[34:21] Speaker 3: You know, you hurt your ankle, you back the mobs.
[34:23] Speaker 6: Damn.
[34:23] Speaker 4: There was a reason they played 82 games back then.
[34:27] Speaker 7: There was a reason they banned it.
[34:29] Speaker 2: There was a reason. Okay. Twisted their ankle, they.
[34:32] Speaker 4: Tomorrow, this and that.
[34:33] Speaker 5: Just walk around with it, okay?
[34:35] Speaker 2: Dunk contest.
[34:36] Speaker 4: Wait a minute. I just seen you yesterday.
[34:40] Speaker 3: Let me break that shit.
[34:41] Speaker 4: Wow.
[34:42] Speaker 5: I didn't know that. Right?
[34:45] Speaker 4: You never?
[34:46] Speaker 7: Yeah. But that's why it's banned, too.
[34:47] Speaker 4: For sure.
[34:48] Speaker 6: It's banned.
[34:48] Speaker 4: It works.
[34:49] Speaker 2: The shit works. So, you never heard of it? Oh, yeah.
[34:53] Speaker 4: You came now, yeah. Because by the time I got
[34:55] Speaker 4: to Washington, yeah, it wasn't used anymore. When I was
[34:58] Speaker 4: in Golden State my first year, I played 82 games.
[35:03] Speaker 4: It was my only 82-game season.
[35:09] Speaker 5: Okay, put that on me.
[35:10] Speaker 1: You can put the patch anywhere, huh?
[35:15] Speaker 4: No.
[35:16] Speaker 1: Almost anywhere, Sean.
[35:17] Speaker 4: Almost anywhere.
[35:20] Speaker 6: So we asked the chat, are the Grizzlies legit contenders
[35:22] Speaker 6: in the West? 52% said no, but 48 people, 48%
[35:25] Speaker 6: think they may have a shot.
[35:27] Speaker 2: What? Hmm?
[35:29] Speaker 5: That's about what and what.
[35:30] Speaker 1: What and what.
[35:31] Speaker 5: What and what.
[35:32] Speaker 6: But currently second in the West, 17-8. Not super surprising,
[35:36] Speaker 6: but good to see Ja back out there. Missed a
[35:37] Speaker 6: little bit of time earlier in the season, but doing
[35:40] Speaker 6: his thing, getting him back on the right track. Well,
[35:43] Speaker 6: let's stay in the Western Conference. Joker's currently leading the
[35:46] Speaker 6: MVP race as he aims to win the award for
[35:48] Speaker 6: the fourth time in his career. In his last two
[35:51] Speaker 6: games to push his lead even further. So Joker made
[35:54] Speaker 6: history against the Wizards Saturday night, dropping a career-high 56
[35:57] Speaker 6: points along with 16 rebounds and eight assists, becoming the
[36:01] Speaker 6: first player in league history with 55-plus points, 15-plus rebounds,
[36:05] Speaker 6: five-plus assists, and three-plus made threes in a single game.
[36:08] Speaker 1: But unfortunately, his.
[36:11] Speaker 6: Historic performance was overshadowed by the Wizards snapping their 16-game
[36:15] Speaker 6: losing streak and getting a win.
[36:17] Speaker 1: Over this Nugget squad.
[36:19] Speaker 6: Either way, 56 is 56.
[36:23] Speaker 1: Jokic didn't lose. They did.
[36:27] Speaker 2: But it got real nasty.
[36:30] Speaker 1: If you score 56, that's y'all for it.
[36:34] Speaker 2: Y'all lost.
[36:35] Speaker 1: I did what I needed to do. Yeah, Drupal was
[36:39] Speaker 1: also killing in the game as well. That's too easy.
[36:42] Speaker 11: How can you guard him?
[36:45] Speaker 4: Got a man up.
[36:46] Speaker 5: Well, they can.
[36:48] Speaker 1: Got a man up. Push him off the goddamn... There's
[36:50] Speaker 1: really no stopping that.
[36:51] Speaker 4: 56?
[36:53] Speaker 6: But after losing to the Wizards, Jokic was very candid
[36:57] Speaker 6: on what he needs to see from his squad in
[36:58] Speaker 6: the next few games.
[37:01] Speaker 2: Reaction, you know, reaction.
[37:04] Speaker 11: In my country, where I'm coming from, after this kind
[37:06] Speaker 11: of strategy, you're going to get a paycheck that is
[37:08] Speaker 11: a little.
[37:08] Speaker 2: Bit less than usual. So maybe that's what we need
[37:12] Speaker 2: to do, you know, maybe a little motivation.
[37:15] Speaker 11: And one thing was the name of the great quote,
[37:19] Speaker 11: like being benched, you know, being on the bench, I
[37:22] Speaker 11: think that's a really good motivation too, you know.
[37:25] Speaker 6: He said the team needs some motivation. In his country,
[37:28] Speaker 6: you know, if they were playing the way that they
[37:30] Speaker 6: were playing, their paychecks would be a little bit lighter.
[37:32] Speaker 4: You know, get all your bread.
[37:35] Speaker 7: Oh, we do that overseas.
[37:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
[37:37] Speaker 4: If you're not playing up to par.
[37:39] Speaker 7: Any excuse to not pay your money.
[37:41] Speaker 6: That check is not getting paid in full, and y'all
[37:44] Speaker 6: got to figure it out.
[37:45] Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
[37:45] Speaker 6: So, sent a subtle message to his squad, but Joker
[37:49] Speaker 6: continued his dominance on the second night of a back-to-back
[37:51] Speaker 6: Sunday in Atlanta.
[37:54] Speaker 1: Jokic had 48 points, 14 rebounds, 8.
[37:58] Speaker 6: Dimes and 3 steals, 17 for 29 from the field,
[38:01] Speaker 6: 3 for 6 from 3. So MPJ added 26 and
[38:04] Speaker 6: 7 rebounds, going 12 for 17 from the field.
[38:07] Speaker 1: Jamal Murray, oh, you seen it.
[38:09] Speaker 7: No, he didn't.
[38:11] Speaker 1: Lakers fans know that well.
[38:13] Speaker 6: Jamal Murray has 17, 8 rebounds, 4 assists. Westbrook finished
[38:18] Speaker 6: with 9 points and 11 assists.
[38:19] Speaker 2: In the 30-point blowout, Get him right the ball right
[38:25] Speaker 2: here where.
[38:25] Speaker 1: He didn't.
[38:28] Speaker 2: Need to get it.
[38:29] Speaker 1: Give it to me.
[38:33] Speaker 6: Like I said, 30-point win in Atlanta doing what the
[38:36] Speaker 6: Lakers were unable to do in the ATL. So in
[38:40] Speaker 6: his last two games, Jokic is averaging 52 points, 15 rebounds,
[38:43] Speaker 6: 8 assists per game. First player in history with 100-plus points,
[38:47] Speaker 6: 30-plus rebounds, and 15-plus assists in any two-day span. So,
[38:53] Speaker 6: Jokic averaging career highs in points, assists, field goal attempts,
[38:56] Speaker 6: three-point percentage in minutes per game this season, but the
[38:59] Speaker 6: Nuggets are holding down the seventh spot in.
[39:00] Speaker 1: The West with a 12-10 record.
[39:02] Speaker 6: So, how impressive has Joker been this season, and how
[39:05] Speaker 6: concerned should the Nuggets be that Joker has to play
[39:07] Speaker 6: at this level just for them to be competitive?
[39:11] Speaker 7: Are you looking something up?
[39:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you say?
[39:14] Speaker 7: The stats.
[39:16] Speaker 1: Everything I said was accurate.
[39:17] Speaker 4: No, the stats.
[39:18] Speaker 7: Yeah, he looking at the stats.
[39:19] Speaker 4: What did you say?
[39:20] Speaker 2: He did what?
[39:22] Speaker 6: First play in NBA history with 100-plus points, 30-plus rebounds,
[39:24] Speaker 6: and 15-plus assists in any two-day span.
[39:28] Speaker 7: Check your stats, Gil.
[39:29] Speaker 6: Wow.
[39:30] Speaker 5: That's impressive.
[39:31] Speaker 4: Because I'm going straight to Wilt.
[39:33] Speaker 1: Okay.
[39:34] Speaker 4: I'm going straight to Wilt. So I already know it's
[39:38] Speaker 4: the assists, but we want to see how many assists
[39:40] Speaker 4: make him by himself.
[39:41] Speaker 3: Do you know that?
[39:42] Speaker 6: I do not know that, Gil. I'm merely a host,
[39:45] Speaker 6: simple man. A vessel, a vehicle for everything. Okay, so
[39:48] Speaker 6: Wilt got.
[39:50] Speaker 4: There's 105 points, and this is 57 rebounds, two assists.
[39:59] Speaker 1: Two-day span, though, so I have to be a bet.
[40:00] Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the 19th and the 20th.
[40:02] Speaker 1: Okay.
[40:03] Speaker 4: And the 21st, if you want to add, you know, 48, 57, 50. Damn,
[40:06] Speaker 4: they played three games in a row. So you got 48, 57, 53,
[40:10] Speaker 4: and then rebounds, 25, 32, 35.
[40:22] Speaker 7: That's crazy.
[40:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, this is, they played the 19th, the 20th, and
[40:26] Speaker 3: the 21st.
[40:26] Speaker 7: Okay.
[40:30] Speaker 6: That was getting after it, so verified, you respect it,
[40:33] Speaker 6: but back to the question.
[40:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to see how many assists push
[40:36] Speaker 4: them over, because I know it's going to be the
[40:38] Speaker 4: assist part.
[40:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
[40:40] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[40:41] Speaker 4: So if he had, you know, if the record was
[40:43] Speaker 4: 13 and he got 15, he.
[40:44] Speaker 1: Gets to be by himself. History is history.
[40:48] Speaker 3: I love when they do that.
[40:50] Speaker 4: When you go under it, they use that person and
[40:53] Speaker 4: they dumb down the stat.
[40:54] Speaker 3: When you beat it, they make you by yourself.
[40:58] Speaker 6: The game is the game, as they say. But how
[41:01] Speaker 6: impressive has Joker been this season? But how concerned should
[41:04] Speaker 6: the Nuggets be that he has to play at this level?
[41:05] Speaker 6: Like I said, career highs in minutes per game, field
[41:08] Speaker 6: goal attempts, shooting like four more shots per game than
[41:12] Speaker 6: he has at any point in his career. The squad
[41:15] Speaker 6: only 12 and 10, currently seventh in the West.
[41:19] Speaker 1: Ty, what you think?
[41:25] Speaker 7: I mean, he's dominating, but it's also like you would
[41:29] Speaker 7: want other players to step up, but the main thing
[41:31] Speaker 7: is they just get him the ball.
[41:33] Speaker 4: I agree.
[41:36] Speaker 7: That's tough.
[41:37] Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was thinking as far as like
[41:39] Speaker 2: Joker upping his play because he knows he has to
[41:42] Speaker 2: up his play with the league upping his talent. I
[41:46] Speaker 2: just think these other guys need to up their play.
[41:48] Speaker 2: Jamal Murray hasn't come to play.
[41:50] Speaker 1: And P.J.
[41:51] Speaker 2: Still haven't shown that he's worth his contract. We're looking
[41:54] Speaker 2: for guys to step up to do what he's doing,
[41:58] Speaker 2: step up reproduction.
[41:59] Speaker 5: And if they don't, how long can he play like that?
[42:03] Speaker 1: He can play like that forever.
[42:04] Speaker 2: It's just now it's going to look individual compared to team.
[42:08] Speaker 2: It looked like team before because Gil said Jamal Murray
[42:11] Speaker 2: was the closer for the team. So now the closer
[42:14] Speaker 2: not performing like the closer, it just looked like he
[42:16] Speaker 2: just stat padding. Now it looks that way because winning is.
[42:21] Speaker 1: Not a contributor to it.
[42:24] Speaker 6: Super efficient, though, like, with them on the court versus
[42:27] Speaker 6: with him off the court, it goes from, like, top team.
[42:31] Speaker 1: In the league to literally... So what's the difference.
[42:33] Speaker 4: Between any year Michael Jordan had that, you know, he
[42:37] Speaker 4: was performing very well, but the team was bad, or
[42:39] Speaker 4: the year when Kobe averaged 35 and.
[42:42] Speaker 3: His team was bad? Like, why does he get.
[42:46] Speaker 4: Why does he get MVP royalty when those guys.
[42:50] Speaker 6: Yeah, what's... I mean, it's crazy he's having a historic
[42:52] Speaker 6: year and on pace to become the first big man
[42:54] Speaker 6: to average a triple-double in the modern era, not including
[42:57] Speaker 6: what Will did because some of those stats weren't counted
[42:59] Speaker 6: back then. But the team not, you know, top seven
[43:03] Speaker 6: in the West right now.
[43:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When Jordan had a historic
[43:06] Speaker 4: year when he had 37 points a game, you know,
[43:09] Speaker 4: you're not close to winning the MVP. Same thing when
[43:11] Speaker 4: Kobe came back and did.
[43:13] Speaker 2: It, right?
[43:13] Speaker 4: It's... Everyone on a bad team can put up real
[43:20] Speaker 4: good numbers, but before in the last, like, shit, about
[43:25] Speaker 4: 30-some years, you didn't reward individual play. That individual play
[43:33] Speaker 4: had to work inside of a team function. It had to... Best.
[43:40] Speaker 1: Player on the best team. Relate to winning.
[43:41] Speaker 4: It has to equal winning. Like, what we've seen... We
[43:46] Speaker 4: see every year there's always some player that is on
[43:49] Speaker 4: a bad team that's putting up, what do they call them,
[43:52] Speaker 4: empty stats.
[43:53] Speaker 1: Empty stats.
[43:53] Speaker 4: They don't want to call this empty stats when they're losing?
[43:57] Speaker 1: You calling it empty stats?
[43:58] Speaker 4: Me?
[43:59] Speaker 2: Personally?
[43:59] Speaker 4: Fuck no.
[44:00] Speaker 1: Okay, just making sure.
[44:01] Speaker 4: I don't know. The reason I wouldn't call it is
[44:03] Speaker 4: because it's just me out here. Y'all can't just guard me.
[44:09] Speaker 4: I think what he's doing is harder, but I thought
[44:11] Speaker 4: that for everyone. It's one person that you got to
[44:14] Speaker 4: stop and you five can't.
[44:17] Speaker 9: Right?
[44:18] Speaker 4: So it's not empty stats because obviously if I'm the
[44:21] Speaker 4: only person you got to stop on the team and
[44:23] Speaker 4: you can't, that's the real... But they never rewarded that.
[44:28] Speaker 2: It can't be empty stats if he's up in his production.
[44:32] Speaker 2: Because the team was winning with lower production. Right?
[44:37] Speaker 9: So.
[44:38] Speaker 2: If you've experienced winning and you can go up in production,
[44:42] Speaker 2: now you have to adjust.
[44:43] Speaker 1: The team has to adjust to that.
[44:45] Speaker 2: They can't just come in, the same players that was
[44:47] Speaker 2: adjusting to you with lower points.
[44:50] Speaker 1: They're used to that.
[44:51] Speaker 2: Now you going up, they're like, oh, do I get
[44:53] Speaker 2: less shots? What, he's getting four more shots per game?
[44:55] Speaker 2: Close to 22 shots per game. So if you're shooting
[44:58] Speaker 2: four more, that means somebody's shooting four less. Somebody's shooting
[45:01] Speaker 2: two less. Somebody's not getting, you know. So now is
[45:04] Speaker 2: he asking you to be more aggressive or he's just
[45:06] Speaker 2: showing you shit?
[45:06] Speaker 1: I'm going to get mine.
[45:08] Speaker 2: See, that's... But that's not... He don't care about getting mine.
[45:12] Speaker 2: He cares about winning. So if it's not reflecting winning,
[45:16] Speaker 2: it does look kind of crazy.
[45:18] Speaker 1: And for what he just said, you know. Yeah.
[45:20] Speaker 4: Hey, man.
[45:21] Speaker 2: Hey, you got to take some money if you don't
[45:23] Speaker 2: really want to be here, man. And I think it
[45:25] Speaker 2: was at Jamal because that's how he been playing. Like,
[45:27] Speaker 2: he don't want to be out there.
[45:28] Speaker 1: I mean, we look at this Nugget squad. Won the
[45:30] Speaker 1: chip 2023. Yeah.
[45:32] Speaker 6: Returned four of their five starters this year. Obviously lost
[45:34] Speaker 6: KCP to the Magic.
[45:37] Speaker 1: But....
[45:39] Speaker 4: It just makes no sense when we've looked at teams
[45:41] Speaker 4: that show dominance and they brung back the five and
[45:46] Speaker 4: they brung back the five. Where's the dominance with the group?
[45:52] Speaker 4: Where's the consistency in dominating? You guys won a championship.
[45:56] Speaker 4: You're supposed to come back and dominate. This year you lost.
[46:01] Speaker 4: This year you're supposed to come back and dominate. You
[46:02] Speaker 4: have the same five or same four.
[46:06] Speaker 1: Four of the same five.
[46:09] Speaker 3: What's the problem? Like, what is the problem?
[46:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[46:13] Speaker 4: I think they're burnt out.
[46:15] Speaker 3: Is it the change in titles?
[46:17] Speaker 1: They're burnt out.
[46:19] Speaker 5: From what?
[46:19] Speaker 2: From playing together. They're burnt out. They've been with it five,
[46:24] Speaker 2: six years together. It's been a couple minutes. But obviously,
[46:29] Speaker 2: to retain that line. They're burnt out from winning? Jamal
[46:32] Speaker 2: looked burnt out. He's burnt out from not winning. They're
[46:37] Speaker 2: not winning.
[46:37] Speaker 4: They won.
[46:37] Speaker 1: Jamal's been struggling.
[46:39] Speaker 6: I mean, look at the Olympics, what he did with
[46:41] Speaker 6: Team Canada.
[46:43] Speaker 3: You can't use that as struggling.
[46:45] Speaker 1: But it was nasty.
[46:46] Speaker 6: Normally he has slow starts to begin the season, but.
[46:49] Speaker 4: You can't use it.
[46:49] Speaker 2: It goes from the Timberwolves. That wasn't his team. It
[46:51] Speaker 2: was the Timberwolves series where they locked his ass up,
[46:55] Speaker 2: and he never, ever, he never got right after that.
[46:58] Speaker 6: He was dealing with the calf issue, I believe, during
[47:00] Speaker 6: the postseason last year.
[47:01] Speaker 2: He tried to come back, and they blistered that he
[47:02] Speaker 2: ain't been the same since. He ain't been the same since.
[47:05] Speaker 2: Confidence gone, everything.
[47:07] Speaker 4: It is different.
[47:09] Speaker 9: Right?
[47:09] Speaker 4: I've never.
[47:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different.
[47:11] Speaker 4: I've never seen a team... Like, the Chicago's team, the L.A. team.
[47:17] Speaker 3: Tired of winning together.
[47:19] Speaker 5: Like, how do you get tired of winning together?
[47:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[47:23] Speaker 5: Like, you won a championship.
[47:25] Speaker 3: Golden States.
[47:26] Speaker 4: Shit, even Boston.
[47:28] Speaker 1: Right?
[47:28] Speaker 4: Even when we think about Bucs.
[47:32] Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, they fall apart in the playoffs because Giannis
[47:36] Speaker 4: gets hurt, but for the most part, they dominate during
[47:38] Speaker 4: regular season.
[47:39] Speaker 1: What dynasty lasts forever? What dynasty lasts forever?
[47:43] Speaker 4: Well, they don't.
[47:45] Speaker 5: Last forever, but you can last for a while.
[47:49] Speaker 4: They didn't get to be a dynasty because they done
[47:50] Speaker 4: fucked up the last two years.
[47:52] Speaker 2: Exactly. Which is why the energy's where it's at. Hey, man,
[47:56] Speaker 2: what we doing?
[47:59] Speaker 4: So you think.
[48:00] Speaker 5: They need to just.
[48:00] Speaker 2: Break the team up? It's a couple of dudes over there.
[48:02] Speaker 2: I'm tired of Denver, man. I'm trying to go somewhere else.
[48:05] Speaker 1: I mean, it's very telling. You lose to that wizard
[48:06] Speaker 1: squad who literally everybody was running through.
[48:08] Speaker 2: Hey, you look over there like, man, I'm tired of him.
[48:12] Speaker 2: I'm tired of him never cracking down. I'm tired of
[48:14] Speaker 2: the coach never saying this and nothing to him. It's
[48:16] Speaker 2: a lot of I'm tired out there.
[48:17] Speaker 4: I'm tired out there.
[48:18] Speaker 1: Let it be true with players.
[48:24] Speaker 2: And they don't ever say nothing, but the energy never lie.
[48:27] Speaker 2: The body language out there, you walking up and down
[48:28] Speaker 2: the court like this.
[48:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Again?
[48:31] Speaker 4: Man, you again?
[48:32] Speaker 2: What's wrong with the day?
[48:33] Speaker 1: Man, whatever, man.
[48:35] Speaker 3: All right, so, them dudes.
[48:37] Speaker 4: You know, like, when five of y'all mess with the
[48:39] Speaker 4: same girl?
[48:40] Speaker 1: Yep.
[48:41] Speaker 2: He wanted to lay up. I didn't want to lay up.
[48:44] Speaker 4: That's him.
[48:44] Speaker 2: That's him.
[48:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:45] Speaker 2: And he get mad because he heard all the stories
[48:48] Speaker 2: of all of us here. And she finally told him, yeah,
[48:52] Speaker 2: him too.
[48:53] Speaker 4: Everybody went to DC, smashed and left.
[48:56] Speaker 5: Oh my god.
[48:56] Speaker 1: They went in there.
[48:58] Speaker 4: You said.
[48:59] Speaker 1: We in love. You in the same line.
[49:01] Speaker 2: I'm going to kiss the late flight.
[49:02] Speaker 4: We in love, y'all.
[49:03] Speaker 2: This is my girlfriend.
[49:04] Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, all right. Wow.
[49:08] Speaker 2: OK.
[49:10] Speaker 6: Speaking of team chemistry issues, let's take a look at
[49:12] Speaker 6: a video from the Nuggets game.
[49:13] Speaker 1: Thursday against the Cavs.
[49:16] Speaker 6: You'll see that Aaron Gordon tries to rally the team.
[49:20] Speaker 10: Here.
[49:21] Speaker 1: After a foul, Aaron Gordon trying to bring the team together.
[49:25] Speaker 4: We see it.
[49:25] Speaker 2: Come here, come here, come here.
[49:27] Speaker 1: Come here, let's talk about it.
[49:28] Speaker 4: Who he talking to?
[49:29] Speaker 1: Let's huddle. Come here, come here, come here. Let's huddle.
[49:31] Speaker 1: Christian Brown.
[49:32] Speaker 2: Who is he calling?
[49:34] Speaker 1: The youngsters came through.
[49:35] Speaker 2: All of them right there except for Jamal Murray he
[49:37] Speaker 2: was talking to.
[49:37] Speaker 1: And MPJ, meanwhile, Joker on the bench.
[49:40] Speaker 2: He's like, man, you're going to make me call assassins.
[49:45] Speaker 2: I know.
[49:46] Speaker 5: I know. It did look like that.
[49:47] Speaker 3: I think him is American. He's fucking American.
[49:51] Speaker 1: North American.
[49:52] Speaker 2: Lazy American.
[49:53] Speaker 3: He's lazy fucking American.
[49:55] Speaker 4: Lazy American.
[49:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[49:56] Speaker 3: North American.
[49:57] Speaker 5: That's what it looked like.
[49:58] Speaker 4: Come to my country for a goddamn good weekend. Get
[50:01] Speaker 4: beat up.
[50:02] Speaker 1: So this is hard work.
[50:03] Speaker 4: That's what it looked like.
[50:04] Speaker 6: We're talking about 2023 team locked in. 2024, I think
[50:07] Speaker 6: their starting five unit was one of the best in
[50:08] Speaker 6: the league based on record. You lose KCP, it's.
[50:11] Speaker 4: A loss, but.
[50:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a loss. But it ain't like.
[50:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep saying it out loud like that was
[50:16] Speaker 2: supposed to be something.
[50:18] Speaker 1: affect the team. That's my point.
[50:20] Speaker 4: It's like when Brandon be like, yeah, Chris Littleton.
[50:22] Speaker 2: Chris Littleton, yeah, yeah.
[50:23] Speaker 12: I get it, but I got Michael Jordan and Pippen.
[50:27] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[50:29] Speaker 1: Out loud.
[50:29] Speaker 2: Horace Greenleaf, okay. Luke Longley, he's coming back.
[50:34] Speaker 1: Oh, no.
[50:37] Speaker 2: Randy Brown.
[50:38] Speaker 4: We down 0-6 because Bill Whittington is out there.
[50:41] Speaker 2: Bill Cartwright ain't playing.
[50:44] Speaker 4: Steve Curry. He about to check in.
[50:46] Speaker 1: I got it. That's how I beat him.
[50:51] Speaker 4: That's what it be sounding like. Like, wait a minute.
[50:55] Speaker 5: That was bad, though.
[50:57] Speaker 1: Is that a big.
[50:58] Speaker 6: You know, it's one little small sampling of.
[51:01] Speaker 4: No, but it is.
[51:01] Speaker 1: They were losing in that game and just.
[51:03] Speaker 5: It's almost like everybody was like.
[51:05] Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, I think.
[51:05] Speaker 6: Air-balled a three on the previous possession, so I don't
[51:07] Speaker 6: know if they were just off him in that moment.
[51:10] Speaker 2: Right?
[51:11] Speaker 5: But, yeah.
[51:12] Speaker 2: It's embarrassing when you're out there, though. Like, you're trying to.
[51:15] Speaker 7: And then that one guy is like.
[51:19] Speaker 2: Because on the court, you can hear everything.
[51:21] Speaker 1: We hear the fans.
[51:24] Speaker 2: So you hear, hey, yo, yo, yo.
[51:26] Speaker 4: He keep going that way, he don't turn around.
[51:28] Speaker 2: That's disrespectful. Let me holler at you at this time
[51:33] Speaker 2: out real quick.
[51:34] Speaker 5: And then you see Joker's body language on the bench.
[51:37] Speaker 1: Because he know what he's trying to do.
[51:39] Speaker 5: Or, like, he looks like he tired.
[51:41] Speaker 2: What I'm just saying, I'm tired of y'all.
[51:45] Speaker 1: I need a new batch. Give me a new cup.
[51:47] Speaker 2: Give me a new cup.
[51:49] Speaker 1: I need a new cup.
[51:50] Speaker 2: Let me pour this water in this cup. This one
[51:52] Speaker 2: is leaking out. This one is leaking. They got some
[51:54] Speaker 2: holes in this cup.
[51:56] Speaker 4: This is when we ask the question, since, you know,
[51:59] Speaker 4: media likes to talk about who's leaders.
[52:03] Speaker 3: Who's the leader of the Denver Nuggets?
[52:06] Speaker 1: It ain't Gordon.
[52:10] Speaker 2: For sure it's not Gordon.
[52:11] Speaker 4: We know who ain't the leader.
[52:13] Speaker 5: It don't look like anybody.
[52:15] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because the leader on the bench, the leader on
[52:17] Speaker 2: the bench, if he was on the bench, he's like, man,
[52:19] Speaker 2: I don't want to say nothing to y'all either. Yeah.
[52:21] Speaker 4: You can't be a leader and win a championship and then.
[52:26] Speaker 3: Not be a leader now.
[52:27] Speaker 7: When you're not winning.
[52:28] Speaker 4: Where you either was a leader then and you were
[52:31] Speaker 4: a leader now or you was just never the leader.
[52:34] Speaker 4: You was just a great player and y'all was playing.
[52:37] Speaker 4: And you never really had that vocal guy.
[52:39] Speaker 6: So you're talking about vocal leader as opposed to I
[52:41] Speaker 6: can be the leader on the court and go.
[52:43] Speaker 1: Get you this 56 and 50.
[52:43] Speaker 4: No, no, no, don't try that because when Kevin Durant
[52:46] Speaker 4: don't speak and he goes out there and get buckets,
[52:48] Speaker 4: he's not a leader. Right? So we want you to identify.
[52:51] Speaker 1: Who the leader is.
[52:52] Speaker 2: But wait, what if there is a leader, though, but
[52:55] Speaker 2: they don't like the leader no more? Then who is
[52:58] Speaker 2: the leader? Like you said, it's a vacant leader. Let's
[53:01] Speaker 2: say there was a leader when they was winning.
[53:03] Speaker 4: And that same leader don't want to be the leader
[53:06] Speaker 4: no more. Who was that leader?
[53:08] Speaker 1: That's the question.
[53:10] Speaker 2: Who was the leader when they were winning? Elkidge.
[53:13] Speaker 6: And I think that's part of the reason for them
[53:15] Speaker 6: bringing in Westbrook and then Joker being so excited to
[53:17] Speaker 6: play with Westbrook because we know.
[53:18] Speaker 2: Somebody can take the leadership role.
[53:20] Speaker 6: He has those leadership qualities, and it's not about him,
[53:22] Speaker 6: but it's about maximizing the team so guys can do
[53:26] Speaker 6: what they're capable of. We heard about it in D.C.
[53:29] Speaker 6: with Bradley Bill and that crew. We heard Ty Luce.
[53:31] Speaker 6: It was the first time the Clippers had a.
[53:33] Speaker 2: Leader in the quiet PG era. Calvin Booth, man, who
[53:38] Speaker 2: the leader is, bro.
[53:39] Speaker 1: Figure that out.
[53:41] Speaker 3: Didn't they say Jeff Green.
[53:43] Speaker 1: Was the leader? I thought it was DeAndre.
[53:45] Speaker 4: No, I remember it was Jeff Green.
[53:46] Speaker 1: But he been gone.
[53:47] Speaker 4: I know. Since when?
[53:49] Speaker 1: Two and a half to the championship? Yeah.
[53:53] Speaker 4: The guy who spoke, made sure everybody was doing what
[53:55] Speaker 4: they were supposed to do. Speaking for Jokic, right? It's,
[53:59] Speaker 4: you know, it's no different than the Curry, right, situation.
[54:04] Speaker 4: Your best player is your best player. you know, it's
[54:06] Speaker 4: not always your best player. It has the Michael Jordan
[54:10] Speaker 4: vocals or the Kobe vocals that can speak and tell
[54:14] Speaker 4: everybody what to do. Sometimes they're just, they're quiet, right?
[54:18] Speaker 4: So you need someone who can speak what he's thinking, right?
[54:21] Speaker 4: And that's Draymond Green to Curry.
[54:25] Speaker 3: You know, who else?
[54:26] Speaker 4: That's, I mean, Giannis is doing what he's doing now, but,
[54:31] Speaker 4: you know, for the most part, you know, most of
[54:33] Speaker 4: those guys are just quiet. They just want to go
[54:34] Speaker 4: in there and get the job done. So, you know,
[54:37] Speaker 4: Jeff Green leaves, you know, it's been vacant. Right?
[54:42] Speaker 3: So, you know, you got a team without a leader.
[54:44] Speaker 4: So when shit is going down like this and somebody's
[54:46] Speaker 4: trying to route another, everybody's like, we don't want to
[54:48] Speaker 4: hear that shit, man. You fucking up just like, you
[54:50] Speaker 4: just airballed, God damn it.
[54:51] Speaker 2: Joker's the leader. Joker's definitely, Joker's the leader that has
[54:54] Speaker 2: to lead by example.
[54:56] Speaker 1: He's the Tim Duncan.
[54:57] Speaker 2: He's the guy that's not going to say nothing, but
[54:59] Speaker 2: he does the work on it.
[55:01] Speaker 1: You see it. I'm out here.
[55:02] Speaker 2: I'm doing my thing. I play hard every night. I
[55:05] Speaker 2: show up every night. The other guys got to follow. Like,
[55:09] Speaker 2: you talk about it. Does it make you a good
[55:12] Speaker 2: leader if the other, a bad leader because the other
[55:15] Speaker 2: guys don't want to follow you? Or do it make
[55:17] Speaker 2: them lazy? Because you doing things they don't want to do.
[55:23] Speaker 3: I mean, in reality, no one does. Nothing the leader does.
[55:29] Speaker 1: But play hard if they play hard.
[55:31] Speaker 2: If you go out there and you see him doing
[55:32] Speaker 2: all the things like passing, cutting, and always... tagging and
[55:37] Speaker 2: touching and talking on defense, that's your best player out
[55:40] Speaker 2: there showing you what you should be out there doing too, right?
[55:43] Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you to go play hard.
[55:45] Speaker 2: That's not what leaders do. They don't go out here
[55:47] Speaker 2: and tell you to do shit. I'm going out here.
[55:49] Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best. You do your best.
[55:50] Speaker 5: But leaders also don't do what Jokic just did on
[55:52] Speaker 5: the bench.
[55:54] Speaker 1: Complain about it?
[55:55] Speaker 5: Well, he didn't say a word. It was his whole
[55:58] Speaker 5: body language.
[55:59] Speaker 4: Like, fuck.
[56:00] Speaker 1: They lost that game.
[56:02] Speaker 2: So? So what do you do in that? What kind
[56:05] Speaker 2: of energy do you show?
[56:06] Speaker 5: If you're going to be that leader, you got to
[56:09] Speaker 5: lead through losses and everything else.
[56:11] Speaker 4: 100%.
[56:11] Speaker 2: So what kind of response do you want to have
[56:15] Speaker 2: in that moment? Where the team is breaking up and
[56:18] Speaker 2: you see the dismantling of your two.
[56:20] Speaker 1: Second best players.
[56:22] Speaker 2: Just riffed in front of everybody, what's your response supposed
[56:25] Speaker 2: to be?
[56:25] Speaker 4: You're supposed to bring them in. You're supposed to do
[56:28] Speaker 4: what you need. Not that.
[56:29] Speaker 5: Not that. It should have been more of a, guys.
[56:32] Speaker 7: Come on, let's go.
[56:33] Speaker 2: So if you're in that moment and this is a
[56:35] Speaker 2: reoccurring thing, you've already done that. Come on, guys, come on, guys.
[56:39] Speaker 1: You see it again. How many times am I going
[56:42] Speaker 1: to come on, guys?
[56:42] Speaker 7: Well, do you think he's really doing that?
[56:44] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[56:45] Speaker 2: I think that was the tipping point. I think that
[56:47] Speaker 2: was the, here we go with this shit again.
[56:50] Speaker 7: But he's not going to do that.
[56:52] Speaker 1: So they lost to the Cavs Thursday.
[56:54] Speaker 6: When that situation happened with Aaron Gordon and him not
[56:56] Speaker 6: huddling up, proceeded Saturday.
[56:59] Speaker 1: To go to the Wizards.
[57:01] Speaker 2: That's an ongoing, something's in, it's an elephant in the
[57:05] Speaker 2: room they're not addressing.
[57:06] Speaker 3: They don't have a bridger.
[57:07] Speaker 4: Like I remember when they did an interview, they lost.
[57:12] Speaker 4: And then the reporters asked, man, did you talk to the,
[57:14] Speaker 4: what did you tell the team?
[57:16] Speaker 3: And they was like, huh? It's like, what did you
[57:17] Speaker 3: tell the team? I told the team nothing.
[57:19] Speaker 5: Nothing, yeah.
[57:21] Speaker 3: You know, because that's not what he do.
[57:24] Speaker 7: Right.
[57:25] Speaker 5: Like, maybe we're assuming or, like, you're assuming that he
[57:29] Speaker 5: is that leader.
[57:29] Speaker 1: We put expectations in the best place. No, I'm not
[57:32] Speaker 1: saying he's saying anything.
[57:34] Speaker 2: I'm saying that the energy of the team is that
[57:37] Speaker 2: they don't really fuck with each other and they're not
[57:40] Speaker 2: responding to no leadership. Even if you say Westbrook replaces
[57:44] Speaker 2: Jeff Green as the leader, he goes out there and
[57:46] Speaker 2: he's trying to rally everybody up. He runs into the
[57:49] Speaker 2: same thing he ran into with the fucking Lakers. What
[57:52] Speaker 2: was that energy like when Westbrook was trying.
[57:55] Speaker 1: To lead but the leader didn't want him to lead?
[57:57] Speaker 4: Because the leader's trying to be led by another leader?
[57:59] Speaker 3: That ain't working.
[58:00] Speaker 2: It ain't working. That's what I'm saying. So Westbrook got
[58:03] Speaker 2: to stand down. Now there's just a vacant slot where
[58:07] Speaker 2: if I wanted to be the leader, I got to
[58:09] Speaker 2: be more of a leader than Joker if he's allowing
[58:12] Speaker 2: me to. And no one's willing to take that chance.
[58:16] Speaker 2: Because he got to approve of you being the leader now.
[58:18] Speaker 2: He's the best player.
[58:18] Speaker 4: He just plays, man. He's just like, you know, we've
[58:21] Speaker 4: been in the league. You know, you've been on teams, right?
[58:24] Speaker 4: Some just... Some players just aren't meant to lead.
[58:29] Speaker 3: They're just meant to do.
[58:30] Speaker 5: They just want to hoop. Like, I don't know if...
[58:33] Speaker 5: I don't know if Jokic is that type of a leader.
[58:37] Speaker 1: He doesn't have a choice. He does have a choice.
[58:40] Speaker 4: He doesn't have... He's not Giannis. Just like Embiid, right?
[58:44] Speaker 4: You would think the way Embiid... The way Embiid expresses
[58:47] Speaker 4: himself to the media, you would think he was the leader.
[58:51] Speaker 4: When we're sitting here, Max, you got to like, come on, man.
[58:54] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? It's just one of those things.
[58:58] Speaker 2: Yes.
[58:59] Speaker 3: No, that's so true.
[59:00] Speaker 4: He's the leader.
[59:01] Speaker 2: Who?
[59:02] Speaker 4: No, he's not.
[59:03] Speaker 2: Every star, every best player is the leader by default.
[59:06] Speaker 1: No, no.
[59:07] Speaker 2: They choose to exhibit those qualities.
[59:09] Speaker 7: That's right.
[59:10] Speaker 2: Problem. Whether or not. They force them to be the leader.
[59:13] Speaker 2: But listen, by default, they are. Whether you force them
[59:16] Speaker 2: to or not. Whether they say yes or they say no.
[59:19] Speaker 2: When you say no, you still the leader, bro. You
[59:21] Speaker 2: just now a bad leader because you don't want to
[59:23] Speaker 2: be the leader.
[59:25] Speaker 4: No.
[59:25] Speaker 2: You're the best player.
[59:27] Speaker 4: No, that's not true.
[59:27] Speaker 5: The best player is not necessarily the leader.
[59:29] Speaker 2: We go as you go.
[59:31] Speaker 4: No, you can't.
[59:31] Speaker 2: We go as you go.
[59:32] Speaker 7: And that's what people feel.
[59:34] Speaker 5: You can't.
[59:35] Speaker 7: That's what people feel when you're trying to force the
[59:36] Speaker 7: best player to be a leader.
[59:37] Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're forcing anybody to do anything.
[59:40] Speaker 7: But it happens, though.
[59:41] Speaker 2: You're the best player. If you don't want the leadership,
[59:47] Speaker 2: you relinquish that to someone else. If there's no one
[59:50] Speaker 2: else to relinquish that to, you are the leader by default,
[59:52] Speaker 2: regardless if you like it or not. Period.
[59:54] Speaker 1: Period.
[59:55] Speaker 2: You're the best player in the workplace or wherever you are.
[59:57] Speaker 2: You do the best, and you've got to take the
[59:59] Speaker 2: best player.
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: You're the best player. You're crowned the best.
[1:00:03] Speaker 5: But I also think there are different types of leaders.
[1:00:06] Speaker 4: I agree.
[1:00:06] Speaker 5: You have the great example of Golden State. Like, to me,
[1:00:09] Speaker 5: Steph Curry isn't that vocal, like, I'm going to get
[1:00:12] Speaker 5: in your shit type of leader. That's what Draymond does.
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: That is Draymond's job.
[1:00:17] Speaker 5: Steph is leading just by the way he plays the game.
[1:00:20] Speaker 5: But when stuff needs to be said, like a moment
[1:00:23] Speaker 5: like that that just happened to me, that's Draymond. And
[1:00:27] Speaker 5: Draymond's not the best player on the team.
[1:00:28] Speaker 4: He's a talker.
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: Those are different labels we give people. Talker.
[1:00:32] Speaker 5: I think he's a leader.
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: The director, the talker, and then there's the main guy.
[1:00:38] Speaker 5: So who's the director?
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: Who was the director? If it wasn't Draymond, it had
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: to be Clay. What?
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: No, the director.
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: You talking about on that team?
[1:00:46] Speaker 4: I'm asking.
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: On the Warriors team?
[1:00:47] Speaker 5: On Golden State. You said a director, a talker, and.
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: And then the main guy. Steph was the main guy.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: Draymond was the talker.
[1:00:54] Speaker 5: And the director.
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: What does the director do?
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: Iggy, I'll probably... Yeah, Iggy.
[1:00:57] Speaker 4: Iggy.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: The main vet guy that's kind of in the back
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: making sure.
[1:01:02] Speaker 5: What does the director do?
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: He's the main guy in the back making sure everybody's
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: connected and the team chemistry is on tap.
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: Draymond's the talker.
[1:01:11] Speaker 5: Who did you say that was for Golden State?
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: Iggy Iguodala.
[1:01:15] Speaker 4: This reminds me of, you know, when women be like,
[1:01:17] Speaker 4: I want, uh... I want a leader. No, no, you
[1:01:22] Speaker 4: know how they say, I want a leader, I want
[1:01:23] Speaker 4: an alpha male? And then when you ask them to
[1:01:25] Speaker 4: describe the alpha male that they have here, that's not.
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: An alpha male, that's more of a manager.
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: When they.
[1:01:34] Speaker 5: I don't know, because I don't know why they're describing
[1:01:37] Speaker 5: it to you.
[1:01:37] Speaker 4: When you listen to who they're explaining, that is not
[1:01:41] Speaker 4: an alpha male. That is a manager. That's a guy
[1:01:45] Speaker 4: who manages feelings, time. You need to know where we're going.
[1:01:50] Speaker 4: We're going to go here at this time.
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: He's a beta.
[1:01:53] Speaker 4: The alpha male has no rules. He doesn't have logic, right?
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: He says, I'm going to get to the mountain. You're
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: going to ask him how. He's like, I'm going to
[1:02:02] Speaker 4: get there. No doubt. I'm getting there. I don't know
[1:02:04] Speaker 4: how the fuck I'm going to get there. I'm just
[1:02:05] Speaker 4: going to get there. You're going to come with me
[1:02:06] Speaker 4: or you're not. But either way, I'm going. He's not
[1:02:10] Speaker 4: going to.
[1:02:10] Speaker 2: Sit there and go out to do this. Yeah, make
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: you feel good.
[1:02:15] Speaker 4: So what's happening is the The alpha male needs someone
[1:02:20] Speaker 4: to speak... For him. For him.
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:02:24] Speaker 3: And that's the same thing here.
[1:02:26] Speaker 4: Sometimes the alpha male has the presence to speak, which
[1:02:30] Speaker 4: makes the ideal person that you want.
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: You want your.
[1:02:35] Speaker 4: superstar to be able to speak to his team, do
[1:02:39] Speaker 4: the interviews. This is the Michael Jordan.
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan.
[1:02:41] Speaker 4: We all want that fucking guy, right? Sometimes it don't
[1:02:44] Speaker 4: come like that. So you might need to piece some
[1:02:46] Speaker 4: shit together, right? You got your best player, probably don't
[1:02:49] Speaker 4: look good, right? So you need somebody.
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody standing out there.
[1:02:53] Speaker 4: He wasn't pretty.
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: He wasn't pretty.
[1:02:56] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man.
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: Just an example.
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: You have Penny Hardaway, right?
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: He has the superstar.
[1:03:03] Speaker 4: play look.
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: But he don't have the personality.
[1:03:07] Speaker 4: So we have to create one for him.
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: The Penny doll.
[1:03:10] Speaker 4: Little Penny. So you have to be smart enough to
[1:03:14] Speaker 4: know what you have. Yeah.
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:03:17] Speaker 4: You know, like, same thing with Penny. He probably wasn't
[1:03:20] Speaker 4: a vocal guy. He wasn't some vocal leader, so you
[1:03:23] Speaker 4: need someone who can really, like, translate what he's thinking.
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:03:27] Speaker 4: Because that guy, the only time they really outburst is
[1:03:31] Speaker 4: when shit done hit the fan. And they really fed up. Like,
[1:03:34] Speaker 4: when you see Steph, when shit really hit the fan.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: You can see his frustration.
[1:03:37] Speaker 4: Yes. Right? Like, when he cried. Right? He's frustrated at, dog,
[1:03:42] Speaker 4: why you keep fucking fouling out? Now, you my number
[1:03:45] Speaker 4: one soldier. You supposed to be mentally stable for the
[1:03:49] Speaker 4: rest of them. And, you know, that's what ends up happening.
[1:03:52] Speaker 5: And for me.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:03:53] Speaker 6: And you talk about bringing in a guy like Westbrook
[1:03:55] Speaker 6: who has those leadership qualities, but this team has been
[1:03:57] Speaker 6: together for a long time.
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at Westbrook.
[1:04:00] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, is he able to come in and
[1:04:02] Speaker 6: even do that? Because it's like, bro, you're new here.
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: Move around.
[1:04:05] Speaker 4: Because you got somebody who's pushing on somebody else's territory. Yeah.
[1:04:09] Speaker 4: Even though Jokic needs him. Jokic said he wanted Westbrook.
[1:04:13] Speaker 4: It's everybody else that's like... Yeah, get out of this.
[1:04:15] Speaker 4: Stay out of this.
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: I think it's a three-headed monster. It's them three knuckleheads
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: going against each other and someone's being more stubborn than
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: the other.
[1:04:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like, Russ, you're a newbie.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: Relax real quick. We're going to figure this out. Who's
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: going to tap out?
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: We've been doing this.
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: Mr. Westbrook.
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: Like, somebody asked me, was I a leader?
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: No.
[1:04:33] Speaker 4: I was just the best player in the team. I
[1:04:35] Speaker 4: was the face, the guy who knew how to talk, played, leading.
[1:04:38] Speaker 5: It's possible.
[1:04:39] Speaker 4: No, I was rogue. You know what I mean? Like,
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: Antoine Jameson was the leader. Karan, you know, Larry Hughes.
[1:04:48] Speaker 4: So when Larry Hughes said something, that's who I listened. Like,
[1:04:53] Speaker 4: you know, when I'm sitting there doing my thing, anybody
[1:04:55] Speaker 4: else can tell me, pass the ball. Nobody's paying attention
[1:04:57] Speaker 4: to nothing y'all say. Get off the glass. Larry be like, yo, hey,
[1:05:01] Speaker 4: come on, man.
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: Pass it.
[1:05:02] Speaker 4: All right.
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: My fault.
[1:05:04] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[1:05:05] Speaker 3: Because I know he ain't going to say nothing.
[1:05:07] Speaker 5: Unless it's, Like, yo, you're messing up the fight.
[1:05:10] Speaker 4: Team chemistry. You know what I mean?
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: It's one of those.
[1:05:13] Speaker 4: So that's who I looked up to when it came
[1:05:16] Speaker 4: to leadership.
[1:05:17] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, who was the Nuggets leader?
[1:05:19] Speaker 6: 61% said Jokic. 18% said it's vacant right now.
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: There's no leader.
[1:05:25] Speaker 6: 6% said Jamal Murray.
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: And 14% said other. Without specifying who that other is.
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: I think it used to be... I think it used
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: to be probably... It feels like.
[1:05:40] Speaker 4: Jamal was a leader before Jokic came into his own.
[1:05:44] Speaker 7: Well, even the fans confused on who the leader is.
[1:05:47] Speaker 7: You know what's funny?
[1:05:49] Speaker 4: This doesn't remind me of it, but this is when...
[1:05:52] Speaker 4: If everybody remembers the... Like the Lakers, right? Where you
[1:05:58] Speaker 4: had Shaquille O'Neal as the alpha male. And then another
[1:06:03] Speaker 4: alpha male was put on the team. but they didn't
[1:06:06] Speaker 4: know it was an alpha male that was gonna challenge
[1:06:10] Speaker 4: the original alpha male, right? And when you look at
[1:06:14] Speaker 4: the three championships, when I said he was a sidekick,
[1:06:18] Speaker 4: that was the case, right? He's listening to a guy
[1:06:21] Speaker 4: and he's realizing, yeah, this ain't, he don't have the
[1:06:26] Speaker 4: qualities of what a leader's supposed to be. He don't
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: have the hard work.
[1:06:29] Speaker 3: He don't have this, this, this, play too much. You
[1:06:32] Speaker 3: know what I mean?
[1:06:32] Speaker 4: So, That's when Kobe, 2002, 2003, decided, like, I'm going
[1:06:38] Speaker 4: to take on that role. Yeah.
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:06:40] Speaker 4: And there's only a few teams that shit like that happened.
[1:06:44] Speaker 4: It was OKC with Kevin Durant and Westbrook. When Kevin
[1:06:48] Speaker 4: Durant went down and Westbrook, like, put the team on
[1:06:52] Speaker 4: his shoulders. And when Kevin came to back, he was like, yeah,
[1:06:54] Speaker 4: I'm the leader now. You're the best player, but I'm
[1:06:55] Speaker 4: the leader. So, you know, we're going to go how
[1:06:58] Speaker 4: I say we're going to go. We're going to give
[1:06:59] Speaker 4: you the ball. You're going to do your thing. But
[1:07:01] Speaker 4: when it comes to doing all this shit, Watch out. Yeah.
[1:07:05] Speaker 5: So to your point, you're director, talker, and leader.
[1:07:09] Speaker 7: Best player.
[1:07:11] Speaker 5: So when LeBron went to Miami, who was what? Bosh, D-Wade, LeBron?
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: Initially, D-Wade was the leader, main player, focus. The talker
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: would have been, at that moment, LeBron.
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: And I think... What about.
[1:07:30] Speaker 5: So what do you consider Haslam?
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: Haslam would have been the director. Enforcer director.
[1:07:37] Speaker 5: And Chris Bosh?
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: She was the wing guy. He was Alfred.
[1:07:41] Speaker 7: He was Alfred.
[1:07:42] Speaker 2: He was Alfred.
[1:07:43] Speaker 4: Get my utility belt!
[1:07:45] Speaker 1: What y'all need?
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: What y'all need?
[1:07:47] Speaker 4: Robin.
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: Batman and Robin. What y'all need? I'll pick y'all over there.
[1:07:55] Speaker 4: It's funny because that's really how we see it. It's...
[1:07:59] Speaker 4: People really get mad when you just.
[1:08:01] Speaker 2: Point it out like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: They get upset and it's always on me.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: Where's my backpack?
[1:08:06] Speaker 4: Here you go, boss. Here you go, boss.
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: It's thick.
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: Tighten up the utility belt.
[1:08:12] Speaker 4: Y'all are crazy.
[1:08:15] Speaker 2: The batarang is coming right back to you.
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: It's funny when you start putting players like that, like,
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: who was who?
[1:08:22] Speaker 5: Yeah, like, yeah.
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: That's how you occupy multiple roles, too, right?
[1:08:26] Speaker 4: It don't have to be three. No, for sure.
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: For sure, depending on the quality. Like KG.
[1:08:30] Speaker 4: KG in Boston.
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: He probably did the directing and the talking. Because Paul
[1:08:36] Speaker 2: will probably not relegate the best player to KG, even
[1:08:40] Speaker 2: though I might consider KG the best player on that team.
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: But Paul, it's his team. They come into his team.
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: It's my team. So it's Paul, KG, and you don't
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: go Ray Allen. Who you go at that? You go
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: Sam Cassell was on that team.
[1:08:57] Speaker 4: See, I think what happened when they got there, I think...
[1:08:59] Speaker 4: I just think it's interesting. I think Cage... It was
[1:09:05] Speaker 4: Paul's team, but it was more like.
[1:09:09] Speaker 4: We're going to go with your identity.
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: Oh, it was Rondo was there, too.
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: But he wasn't.
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: Remember, they was like, no, no, no.
[1:09:16] Speaker 3: They wouldn't let him do shit.
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: That wasn't Rondo yet.
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: Cheryl, you were saying you're a comment squad.
[1:09:21] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: Oh, now you're trying to figure out who was who?
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: No.
[1:09:25] Speaker 5: Well, I just, and she said it. I just think
[1:09:28] Speaker 5: it was different back then.
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: But you said all three of you occupied leadership roles.
[1:09:31] Speaker 7: Yeah, at different times.
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: But did y'all ever butt heads?
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: Probably.
[1:09:35] Speaker 7: Yeah, they did.
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:09:37] Speaker 7: But they still respected each other and got the job done.
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: Where it's different now.
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: How long did y'all play together?
[1:09:44] Speaker 5: Ooh.
[1:09:46] Speaker 4: Um.
[1:09:47] Speaker 5: 97 to... I mean, the first four, another probably seven, six,
[1:09:53] Speaker 5: seven years.
[1:09:53] Speaker 4: Okay, how many MVPs.
[1:09:54] Speaker 2: With all three of us.
[1:09:55] Speaker 4: How many MVPs did you.
[1:09:56] Speaker 3: Win in that?
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: Three.
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: Okay, how many did.
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: Cynthia.
[1:10:01] Speaker 4: Cynthia.
[1:10:02] Speaker 5: Coop won.
[1:10:04] Speaker 5: Who, I think? I think.
[1:10:07] Speaker 4: So y'all had that Jalen Brown, Tatum type of deal where, like,
[1:10:15] Speaker 4: it's sitting there, like, depending on who's having a hot month,
[1:10:18] Speaker 4: who's having a hot year, it can go either way.
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: They was the Miami Heat.
[1:10:23] Speaker 4: They was Miami Heat. Yeah, y'all probably was the Miami Heat.
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: And Tina was third for sure, no matter.
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: No matter what.
[1:10:29] Speaker 4: No matter what.
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: No matter what you say.
[1:10:31] Speaker 7: Tina, you one of the picks.
[1:10:31] Speaker 6: Like....
[1:10:34] Speaker 5: Like, there were certain players or a certain player that
[1:10:41] Speaker 5: I was more comfortable with coming to me being like,
[1:10:45] Speaker 5: get your shit together, basically.
[1:10:47] Speaker 10: Right?
[1:10:47] Speaker 5: And so I listened to that player. Now, I take
[1:10:50] Speaker 5: that back because Kiel Peratt would have been that player. Like,
[1:10:53] Speaker 5: Kim was that point guard that she, when she would
[1:10:56] Speaker 5: get in my shit, Coop's shit.
[1:10:57] Speaker 4: She would check all y'all.
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:10:59] Speaker 5: And we were like, okay. And she wasn't the best player.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:11:02] Speaker 5: But we were like, if Kim spoke, we were all like, okay.
[1:11:05] Speaker 4: So Katie, Curry, when they got together, right, y'all sitting there,
[1:11:10] Speaker 4: and then someone has to make sure.
[1:11:12] Speaker 3: You two motherfuckers is on point.
[1:11:15] Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on here?
[1:11:18] Speaker 5: Well, see, here's what I think is interesting, though, with
[1:11:21] Speaker 5: our team, right? Because when the league started, initially everybody
[1:11:25] Speaker 5: was like, oh, this is Cheryl's team because I got
[1:11:28] Speaker 5: appointed to the Comets. But that first season, I didn't
[1:11:30] Speaker 5: play because I was pregnant. So then it was Tina
[1:11:34] Speaker 5: and it was Coop. And so I felt like coming
[1:11:36] Speaker 5: back that second season, like I had, in a way,
[1:11:40] Speaker 5: I had to earn something. My respect. I had to
[1:11:43] Speaker 5: earn my I'm here because I want to win. And
[1:11:47] Speaker 5: we just won that first championship without me playing. You
[1:11:51] Speaker 5: know what I mean? So I had to gain their respect.
[1:11:55] Speaker 5: So it wasn't like I came in like this is
[1:11:58] Speaker 5: my shit. This is my team because I was like, oh, no,
[1:12:00] Speaker 5: they did the shit without me.
[1:12:03] Speaker 1: You wanted the second year.
[1:12:05] Speaker 4: She got appointed a team, and she wanted to go
[1:12:07] Speaker 4: out there and celebrate.
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: Huh? Huh?
[1:12:10] Speaker 4: Immediately.
[1:12:11] Speaker 1: Immediately.
[1:12:12] Speaker 4: The lead just started.
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: Immediately. Yo, your team.
[1:12:16] Speaker 5: Hey, wait.
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: No time.
[1:12:18] Speaker 4: Party time.
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: No time.
[1:12:21] Speaker 4: I'll be out nine months.
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: I'll be out nine months. I'll hit y'all later.
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: Thank you for that check. Thank you for that check.
[1:12:27] Speaker 7: I'm going to get my ring check for y'all.
[1:12:29] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: But she on the side.
[1:12:32] Speaker 7: Good job, girl.
[1:12:33] Speaker 5: I was there, too.
[1:12:33] Speaker 4: I was cheering, too.
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: Hey. Y'all are wild. All right, well, let's keep.
[1:12:42] Speaker 4: This thing moving.
[1:12:43] Speaker 5: That's the left side of the table.
[1:12:45] Speaker 6: We got to talk about the most important team in
[1:12:47] Speaker 6: the NBA.
[1:12:48] Speaker 4: Oh, gosh.
[1:12:49] Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Lakers of Los Angeles. So, girls, you
[1:12:52] Speaker 6: predicted on our show last week. I mean, we beat
[1:12:54] Speaker 6: the Blazers.
[1:12:54] Speaker 7: Let's not.
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: We don't need no class.
[1:12:57] Speaker 4: Blazers is a good-ass win.
[1:12:59] Speaker 12: A gritty Blazers. They're an up-and-coming team. You know, you
[1:13:01] Speaker 12: got to change it. Up-and-coming team. They're rugged and rough.
[1:13:05] Speaker 12: They're about 10 years away. You can't pick and choose
[1:13:07] Speaker 12: when we give you credit now. Take all the credit
[1:13:11] Speaker 12: we give you now.
[1:13:11] Speaker 2: There's only a little bit left.
[1:13:13] Speaker 6: As you predicted on our show last week, Lakers entered
[1:13:15] Speaker 6: their road trip with back-to-back losses in South Beach and Atlanta,
[1:13:19] Speaker 6: two cities known for their nightlife, amongst other things. Well,
[1:13:23] Speaker 6: let's take a look at that Hawks game first because
[1:13:25] Speaker 6: they squandered an opportunity to get a dub. LeBron had
[1:13:28] Speaker 6: another triple-double in the overtime.
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: Loss of the Hawks. 39 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists,
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: two steals, and three blocks while also becoming the first
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: player in NBA history to equip the 41,000-point mark.
[1:13:45] Speaker 6: It was a little shaky at first, but LeBron got
[1:13:49] Speaker 6: his stroke back.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: Hit some threes. Obviously he had that.
[1:13:52] Speaker 6: Slump for a cool minute where he couldn't knock one down,
[1:13:55] Speaker 6: but got back in the mix.
[1:13:57] Speaker 4: Oh my God. So LeBron and AD combined for 77
[1:14:00] Speaker 4: points in the game.
[1:14:01] Speaker 10: AD had 38.
[1:14:01] Speaker 6: First Laker duo to both have a 35-point double-double since
[1:14:04] Speaker 6: Shaq and Kobe. in 2000, but Trae Young had 31
[1:14:15] Speaker 6: points and 20 assists. It was his second game with
[1:14:16] Speaker 6: 20-plus assists this season. He also gave the Lakers some vintage.
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: Ice, Trae.
[1:14:21] Speaker 3: Then he got to give it back to them.
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: Then he got it back.
[1:14:23] Speaker 6: You know, there was still about four seconds on the
[1:14:25] Speaker 6: clock when he took that shot.
[1:14:27] Speaker 1: Two-point game.
[1:14:30] Speaker 6: But like I said, Trae hit the game-winning three in
[1:14:32] Speaker 6: overtime to give the Hawks their sixth straight win. The
[1:14:34] Speaker 6: Lakers ended their four-game road trip with a record of
[1:14:37] Speaker 6: one and three, three straight losses.
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: To the wolves.
[1:14:40] Speaker 3: What is your question? You guys just want to get
[1:14:44] Speaker 3: to it.
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: I have a question. Of course you do. I have
[1:14:47] Speaker 2: a question. So I'm going to ask your question. Was
[1:14:52] Speaker 2: it just LeBron out there? Like, we just seen just
[1:14:55] Speaker 2: all clips.
[1:14:56] Speaker 1: Of LeBron.
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: No, no, we got an AD clip.
[1:14:59] Speaker 2: I'm so confused. We put an AD clip up there.
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: Nobody else scored?
[1:15:03] Speaker 4: The very first clip. We put an AD clip. What
[1:15:05] Speaker 4: are you talking about? We showed him some love.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: One clip.
[1:15:07] Speaker 4: I'm sorry he didn't decide he wanted to make a
[1:15:09] Speaker 4: little left-hand layup dunk, whatever the fuck.
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: You on the fast break.
[1:15:12] Speaker 4: You supposed to monkey dunk that motherfucker. Boom!
[1:15:16] Speaker 5: I'm here.
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: That's the only question I had. I just wanted to
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: make sure.
[1:15:19] Speaker 4: What happened to that part of the game? When did
[1:15:22] Speaker 4: going on a fast break, doing little soft shit, like,
[1:15:27] Speaker 4: this is when, like, there's moments in the game where
[1:15:29] Speaker 4: you get to turn the crowd, right?
[1:15:32] Speaker 1: Like, think about it.
[1:15:32] Speaker 4: That's Atlanta, right? Those male layups. What if you got
[1:15:35] Speaker 4: on a fast break and you damn near tried to
[1:15:37] Speaker 4: break the rim or something? The crowd be like, oh, shit.
[1:15:41] Speaker 4: Those are those moments.
[1:15:42] Speaker 2: It's for the trading cards, too. If the trading cards
[1:15:45] Speaker 2: was important, you would do... More dunks, but it's not.
[1:15:47] Speaker 4: Michael Jordan on the fat.
[1:15:48] Speaker 1: What?
[1:15:49] Speaker 4: Like, go back and watch what people did. That was
[1:15:52] Speaker 4: Dominique Wilkins. That motherfucker about a windmill something. It would
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: have been a windmill from the left side, the middle,
[1:15:58] Speaker 4: or the right side.
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: It was going to be a windmill.
[1:16:00] Speaker 2: But you're putting a picture on the wall, though. Remember,
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: you used to take the picture out the magazine. They're
[1:16:05] Speaker 2: taking the picture of you dunking on the fat. KG
[1:16:07] Speaker 2: said the first thing, he's like, dunk everything on the
[1:16:10] Speaker 2: fast break. Everything. Don't do nothing, because that's where you
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: get your trading cards. Your posters, they said, you have
[1:16:16] Speaker 2: to do that. And I started looking at dunks in
[1:16:20] Speaker 2: the box score and the end of the season stats.
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: Dunks was a thing. You could be a rookie, and
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: I think I was second in dunks. Because it just,
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: like you said, fanfare. The fans want to see dunks.
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: If you ain't one of the dudes that's dunking when
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: the fans come, you just, ah.
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: They're like, no, he's trash.
[1:16:36] Speaker 4: Where's the showmanship?
[1:16:37] Speaker 2: That was weak.
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: That was weak as hell. The showmanship was weak. That's
[1:16:40] Speaker 1: what he did.
[1:16:40] Speaker 4: I was like, what is that? What? You're supposed to
[1:16:46] Speaker 4: just bounce or do something.
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: You're seven foot already.
[1:16:49] Speaker 4: I mean, he is.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: But no, I'm saying you could do something.
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: He is baby legs.
[1:16:53] Speaker 2: He can fuck around my phone. I think that's why
[1:16:54] Speaker 2: he did. Do one of these. Like, go in there
[1:16:57] Speaker 2: and do one of these or some shit.
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: Like, do something.
[1:16:59] Speaker 2: Maybe that's why.
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: Smile.
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: Smile when you're done.
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: Like I said, the mailman.
[1:17:05] Speaker 4: Those, that's the moments. Those are the moments. The mailman
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: on the fast break, he did this.
[1:17:10] Speaker 1: That was a weak-ass dunk, but it was a weak dunk.
[1:17:12] Speaker 4: Back then, no. Back then, no.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: Back then, you were like, yeah, the mailman.
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: Hey, that was like the end zone. Like the end
[1:17:18] Speaker 2: zone celebration. That was our end zone celebration. Dunk on
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: the fast break.
[1:17:22] Speaker 4: Boom.
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: And then celebrate.
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: Run back on.
[1:17:24] Speaker 6: We don't see none of that no more. So, like
[1:17:26] Speaker 6: I said, Lakers, four-game road trip. They were 1-3 in
[1:17:28] Speaker 6: that road trip. Three straight losses. Came back home.
[1:17:31] Speaker 4: You see how I distracted him from what he was
[1:17:32] Speaker 4: trying to do?
[1:17:34] Speaker 1: Don't worry.
[1:17:34] Speaker 6: I'm going to let Sean have his moment in a second.
[1:17:37] Speaker 4: I'm going to let you take your victory lap.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: He's about to be reminded. I'm going to let you take.
[1:17:42] Speaker 4: Your victory lap.
[1:17:43] Speaker 2: I'm very adamant about my mission.
[1:17:45] Speaker 1: My mission is very important.
[1:17:47] Speaker 2: Nobody can stop the mission.
[1:17:49] Speaker 6: So LeBron was out Sunday against the Blazers, missing his
[1:17:53] Speaker 6: first game this season and ending his quest to play
[1:17:55] Speaker 6: all 82 in year 22. But Purple and Gold had
[1:17:59] Speaker 6: no problem with Portland. Gil said an up-and-coming Portland Blazers
[1:18:03] Speaker 6: spot about 10 years away from making a plan. Getting
[1:18:08] Speaker 6: the win to snap their three-game losing streak. So AD
[1:18:10] Speaker 6: led the Lakers with 30 points and 11 rebounds in
[1:18:12] Speaker 6: 32 minutes of action. 10 for 21 from the field,
[1:18:14] Speaker 6: 9 for 9 from the line. D'Lo was cooking off
[1:18:18] Speaker 6: the bench with 28 points and a season-high 14 assists
[1:18:22] Speaker 6: along with five rebounds. And with Shohei Ohtani and his
[1:18:26] Speaker 6: boo in the stands watching, Rui Hachimura represented for Japan
[1:18:29] Speaker 6: with 23 points, five rebounds, and four steals. Every time
[1:18:33] Speaker 6: on the Spectrum feed, every time Rui scored, they.
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: Would cut to Shohei.
[1:18:36] Speaker 6: Like, damn, that's the only Japanese person at the game?
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: I know Ohtani was like, he black, though. He ain't
[1:18:49] Speaker 4: full Japanese.
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: He blackanese.
[1:18:52] Speaker 4: He blackanese. He blackanese.
[1:18:54] Speaker 7: He probably with us, too.
[1:18:57] Speaker 6: But let's talk about the bigger issue ahead.
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: Wait, does Rui speak Japanese? I think so.
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: Yeah. Full Japanese?
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he barely speak English?
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:19:09] Speaker 4: Oh.
[1:19:10] Speaker 5: I've never really listened to him.
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not listening to him.
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
[1:19:17] Speaker 1: So, sadly.
[1:19:18] Speaker 12: I didn't know they went to him after games.
[1:19:22] Speaker 7: How dare they?
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: Bruce Lee Rui.
[1:19:28] Speaker 4: I'm just saying. What he did, that's not the first
[1:19:33] Speaker 4: person I'm going to.
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: Well, LeBron, I'm going to the long line.
[1:19:37] Speaker 4: Come on, Rui.
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: Who the fuck is like, hey, Rui, what you think?
[1:19:40] Speaker 2: First, first, first.
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: You can see him at any time. By interviewing Manny Pacquiao.
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: This is one of them M & Ms.
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: Oh my God, that's stupid.
[1:19:50] Speaker 4: Boy, if you don't leave me alone.
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: I'm about to go in the sauna.
[1:20:03] Speaker 4: I don't even work here. No, Cheryl, you know, you
[1:20:06] Speaker 4: started it first. We was listening to your kids. You
[1:20:10] Speaker 4: was like, what is he saying?
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it be. That's exactly what we talking about.
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: He blacking me, but sadly, Lakers up 3-7 in their
[1:20:17] Speaker 2: last 10 games.
[1:20:17] Speaker 7: 13-11 this season, currently eighth in the West.
[1:20:28] Speaker 6: Sean, I'm going to ask you, because I know you
[1:20:30] Speaker 6: have a narrative agenda that you would like to get out,
[1:20:32] Speaker 6: and it is Monday. What difference do you see in
[1:20:35] Speaker 6: how the Lakers play with LeBron versus without LeBron?
[1:20:40] Speaker 4: Wow.
[1:20:41] Speaker 1: I missed the narrative. Can I get a shot?
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: You're going to throw the pitch. You're going to throw
[1:20:50] Speaker 2: the motherfucker to me.
[1:20:53] Speaker 4: All right.
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: What it look like with the Lakers out there? They're
[1:20:55] Speaker 2: not the Lakers anymore. They're not the Lakers anymore. Nope.
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: They're not the Lakers anymore. But I ain't going to
[1:21:01] Speaker 2: do no hating. I'm just going to say they need
[1:21:02] Speaker 2: to go back to the drawing board. They need to
[1:21:05] Speaker 2: call Darvin Ham back. They need to apologize. Say we miscalculated.
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: We miscalculated. They need to put them two assets on
[1:21:17] Speaker 2: the chopping block.
[1:21:18] Speaker 1: Put them up for sale. You said they need to
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: put those two assets on the chopping block.
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: Put them up for sale.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: What two assets?
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: You know which two.
[1:21:26] Speaker 1: The two best players on the team?
[1:21:27] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Assets. Assets, yeah.
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: The two valuable pieces on the Lakers.
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: Put them up for sale.
[1:21:34] Speaker 3: What do we need to apologize for Ham for?
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: Because you pushed him out. Like it was his fault
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: and it wasn't.
[1:21:39] Speaker 3: But we pushed him out at the end of the season.
[1:21:41] Speaker 5: But it still wasn't his fault.
[1:21:43] Speaker 4: No, no, what I'm saying is.
[1:21:45] Speaker 1: And he had just took you to the Eastern Conference final.
[1:21:47] Speaker 4: The narrative is bad. Like at this moment in time
[1:21:50] Speaker 4: last year, nobody was talking bad about Ham. Because this
[1:21:54] Speaker 4: is when we were winning.
[1:21:55] Speaker 5: True.
[1:21:55] Speaker 6: We were en route to the first NBA Cup.
[1:21:58] Speaker 3: There was no hand bashing.
[1:22:00] Speaker 4: After this game, when we started celebrating and we went
[1:22:04] Speaker 4: damn near 3-15, that's when we, you know.
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: Is that his fault?
[1:22:09] Speaker 5: Is that Darvin's fault?
[1:22:10] Speaker 2: No.
[1:22:12] Speaker 1: No.
[1:22:13] Speaker 2: Everyone knows it's not his fault. I think it is.
[1:22:17] Speaker 2: How many players get at least five years or more
[1:22:20] Speaker 2: to reach the championship and prove that they've been worth
[1:22:24] Speaker 2: the investment?
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: How many in history? Not many, right?
[1:22:27] Speaker 9: What?
[1:22:29] Speaker 2: Get an opportunity to play four or five years on
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: the same team to keep chasing that ring.
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: Not many, right? LeBron and AD have. But they have
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: also won the championship.
[1:22:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, they won it, right?
[1:22:39] Speaker 1: 2020, hardest championship in NBA history. Right, hardest championship, right?
[1:22:43] Speaker 1: No crowd.
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: And ever since then.
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: No work. Ever since then.
[1:22:46] Speaker 3: What would happen?
[1:22:46] Speaker 2: They haven't gotten a taste of that championship champagne. Why?
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: Because y'all stuck in the glory days. That shit ain't
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: happening no more. You need to move the masses. The
[1:22:59] Speaker 2: trade gets to rebuild again.
[1:23:01] Speaker 5: Just a tad.
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: Because the Lakers don't look like they trying to win.
[1:23:05] Speaker 6: Do you agree or disagree? What's your artist saying?
[1:23:08] Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't hear shit he was saying.
[1:23:10] Speaker 5: He really, he tuned him out.
[1:23:14] Speaker 4: All I heard was trade.
[1:23:16] Speaker 12: When I heard trade, just shut the fuck off.
[1:23:23] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
[1:23:27] Speaker 5: He tuned him out.
[1:23:28] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: So he didn't hear Trey.
[1:23:31] Speaker 4: He heard loser.
[1:23:33] Speaker 7: I'm going to lose.
[1:23:36] Speaker 2: We're going to lose.
[1:23:37] Speaker 4: We're going to lose and we're going to lose the vote.
[1:23:40] Speaker 2: Fuck the Trey.
[1:23:40] Speaker 4: We're going to lose. We'd rather lose than trade him.
[1:23:43] Speaker 4: I'm like a wizard fan in 01020203 season when they
[1:23:47] Speaker 4: had Michael Jordan. I'm really not here for nothing else
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: just to watch Michael Jordan.
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:23:54] Speaker 4: Win, lose, I bought the ticket to see that man
[1:23:59] Speaker 4: right there.
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: The bald-headed nigga with the 23 on.
[1:24:01] Speaker 4: The outcome of the game is irrelevant to me.
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: Look.
[1:24:06] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: Like, I got three.
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: Kobe's last year, Kobe's last year, you came to see Mamba.
[1:24:17] Speaker 4: You're not coming to see anything else. So, as a
[1:24:20] Speaker 4: Laker fan.
[1:24:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, we have hopes, but reality is reality. We're going
[1:24:26] Speaker 4: to lie to ourselves, but we're buying tickets just to see.
[1:24:30] Speaker 4: This might be LeBron James last year. We might have
[1:24:33] Speaker 4: one more year. At this point, we don't know, but
[1:24:35] Speaker 4: we're going to come just in case.
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: So the last three years, y'all been doing that exact
[1:24:39] Speaker 1: same thing?
[1:24:40] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[1:24:40] Speaker 3: Last year, we thought we was good. We thought we
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: was good last year.
[1:24:43] Speaker 5: You did?
[1:24:45] Speaker 1: Two years ago, went to a.
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: Western Commons final.
[1:24:47] Speaker 4: Yeah, we thought we was good.
[1:24:48] Speaker 1: Great Western Commons final.
[1:24:49] Speaker 5: Y'all thought y'all might actually win a championship last year?
[1:24:52] Speaker 7: Facts.
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: Without changing your roster at all?
[1:24:55] Speaker 4: Low key, low key.
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: You didn't think that.
[1:24:57] Speaker 4: We really think we can win this year, but we're
[1:24:59] Speaker 4: not telling nobody. We not really sitting out loud.
[1:25:02] Speaker 5: That's real low-key.
[1:25:03] Speaker 7: That's real low-key.
[1:25:05] Speaker 12: Like, trust me, like, we getting the playoffs, winning that
[1:25:07] Speaker 12: first series.
[1:25:09] Speaker 4: God damn it, it's over. It's called a rope-a-dope. It's
[1:25:13] Speaker 4: called a rope-a-dope. We sitting there playing coy.
[1:25:16] Speaker 2: I did the rope-a-dope last year. They did the rope-a-dope.
[1:25:20] Speaker 2: It was the dope-a-dope.
[1:25:21] Speaker 4: It was a dog-on-dope.
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: We miscalculated our seating.
[1:25:25] Speaker 5: I want to go back to what you said about DeHaan.
[1:25:29] Speaker 5: So D-Ham couldn't do what J.J.
[1:25:31] Speaker 4: 's doing?
[1:25:32] Speaker 3: Oh, no, he couldn't.
[1:25:33] Speaker 4: No, listen.
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: They just didn't like him.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: We got rid of him.
[1:25:38] Speaker 4: It wasn't his fault, right? He was just a black
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: man looking black during the time. During the time where
[1:25:45] Speaker 4: we had to point the finger at someone, it was
[1:25:47] Speaker 4: either him or LeBron, and we're not doing that. That's
[1:25:52] Speaker 4: the key.
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: I have a question.
[1:25:53] Speaker 4: That's the key, right?
[1:25:55] Speaker 5: No doubt.
[1:25:56] Speaker 2: Let me ask y'all if this is insulting or not.
[1:25:58] Speaker 2: I'm Darvin Ham. I'm coaching the Lakers. Player might have
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: a problem with my coaching style.
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:26:07] Speaker 3: A player or the player?
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: A player.
[1:26:10] Speaker 5: Any player.
[1:26:10] Speaker 2: A player has a problem.
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: A player has a.
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: Because there's a difference. I know.
[1:26:15] Speaker 4: You're going to put it together.
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: You're going to put it together. Or there's one player.
[1:26:19] Speaker 2: A player has a problem with my coaching style. A
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: player then goes and starts a podcast with another... ambitious
[1:26:28] Speaker 2: coach during the season.
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: Content, y'all. Content is king.
[1:26:33] Speaker 2: A player at the end of the season has nothing
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: really crazy to say about said coach. Said coach get fired.
[1:26:41] Speaker 2: Podcast host gets the job.
[1:26:44] Speaker 1: More than a podcast host. 15 years.
[1:26:46] Speaker 4: How do you feel about your.
[1:26:49] Speaker 2: Your player going to start a podcast with the guy
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: who's going to replace you.
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: Quality podcast.
[1:26:53] Speaker 4: I vow say that someone is not as smart as
[1:26:57] Speaker 4: they should be.
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: They should have seen the writing on the wall.
[1:27:00] Speaker 4: Because if I see a player go start a podcast
[1:27:03] Speaker 4: with V, I need flowers.
[1:27:08] Speaker 1: Hey, honey, how you doing?
[1:27:11] Speaker 4: Everything look good. We best friends. When I go to dinner,
[1:27:13] Speaker 4: I'm going to try to make myself look good again.
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:27:16] Speaker 4: There's another interest that done kicked in.
[1:27:18] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: I need to show up like the man I used
[1:27:22] Speaker 4: to be. You know when your girls start changing their heads,
[1:27:25] Speaker 4: start looking good for no damn reason? I started taking
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: selfies and shit.
[1:27:29] Speaker 5: Make you recognize them.
[1:27:30] Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, there's another nigga here.
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:27:33] Speaker 4: You got to really step up.
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: And that's what it is. If you know there was.
[1:27:40] Speaker 4: Some friends.
[1:27:40] Speaker 5: Four or five.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: You should have been smart enough to really.
[1:27:45] Speaker 2: The question is, why do I have to see.
[1:27:47] Speaker 5: Maybe he was like, I don't give a shit.
[1:27:48] Speaker 2: Why do I have to see my A player do
[1:27:51] Speaker 2: this to me in national form?
[1:27:53] Speaker 1: Why is this?
[1:27:54] Speaker 4: Why are you doing this to me? Quality content, though, Sean.
[1:27:57] Speaker 6: Mind the Game podcast did very good numbers.
[1:27:59] Speaker 2: Now I'm on the bench on somebody else's bench. I
[1:28:01] Speaker 2: should be a premier coach in this league. I came
[1:28:04] Speaker 2: in this league and got this team to an Eastern
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: Conference Finals in my first year.
[1:28:07] Speaker 4: Game within the game. We all know that.
[1:28:11] Speaker 1: So what he got to do? Kiss more ass?
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: Sit on the couch again? He was doing that.
[1:28:19] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, man.
[1:28:20] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[1:28:22] Speaker 2: That means he was sabotaged. That sounds like he was sabotaged.
[1:28:26] Speaker 5: He was sabotaged.
[1:28:27] Speaker 2: It sounds like a sabotage job. Cheryl, tell me something.
[1:28:31] Speaker 2: If I'm not piecing it together, it sounds like I'm
[1:28:33] Speaker 2: a detective working right now. Damn.
[1:28:36] Speaker 5: I love you.
[1:28:37] Speaker 3: Hey, man, look.
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: Hey, listen.
[1:28:40] Speaker 5: It just.
[1:28:41] Speaker 4: Glenn keeps getting the job because what? He knows how
[1:28:45] Speaker 4: to kiss the right ass. Damn, you got to learn.
[1:28:48] Speaker 4: It's just a fact, right? When your contract is coming up, Hey,
[1:28:53] Speaker 4: how you doing, sir? Hey, good. Your wife looks stunning.
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: Stop it.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: Your wife looks stunning.
[1:28:59] Speaker 4: Stop it.
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: You know, you start flirting with your wife.
[1:29:01] Speaker 4: You're doing damn well.
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: No.
[1:29:04] Speaker 4: But she's going to be like, oh, my God, he's
[1:29:05] Speaker 4: so handsome. His contract is up. I want to keep
[1:29:08] Speaker 4: him for more years. You got to do that.
[1:29:11] Speaker 5: Well, maybe D-Ham was like, I'm not that dude.
[1:29:14] Speaker 4: Like, I'm not going to do that.
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just riding these cruisers, popping wheelies.
[1:29:17] Speaker 4: I'm not that dude. Fly it, go somewhere else.
[1:29:20] Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean.
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: I don't know what that I'm.
[1:29:22] Speaker 2: Not that dude means. That shit is huge.
[1:29:25] Speaker 1: The person that didn't get no blame was Jenny Bust, though.
[1:29:28] Speaker 3: The fuck you going to blame me for?
[1:29:29] Speaker 4: I'm the boss.
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[1:29:30] Speaker 4: What you blaming me for?
[1:29:33] Speaker 2: The boss had, you remember the meeting they had on
[1:29:36] Speaker 2: the sideline with her and her sister was on them shoulders. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:29:40] Speaker 2: So what's the plan? Hey, you got to get Darwin
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: the fuck up out of here.
[1:29:44] Speaker 4: We got you. And I want Bronnie too. All right.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: And 50 million a year. All reasonable requests.
[1:29:53] Speaker 4: When you have the juice, you have the juice.
[1:29:57] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:29:58] Speaker 4: I'm sorry. No, it's true. When you have the juice,
[1:30:01] Speaker 4: you have the juice.
[1:30:01] Speaker 7: You better keep squeezing until you can't.
[1:30:03] Speaker 4: It's true.
[1:30:05] Speaker 1: Squeeze it.
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: Know how to squeeze that. What's left in there? What's
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: left in there, though? Right now, you're squeezing out. What's
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: in there?
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: A little juice.
[1:30:15] Speaker 4: A little juice. It's still a little juice.
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: It might not be 100%. You were searching for that
[1:30:20] Speaker 1: little juice. I had to order it down a little bit.
[1:30:24] Speaker 4: It's a little juice.
[1:30:25] Speaker 2: He's trying to found it.
[1:30:26] Speaker 1: You found a little juice.
[1:30:27] Speaker 4: You got a little juice left. Squeeze that motherfucker to
[1:30:31] Speaker 4: your kid.
[1:30:31] Speaker 1: Sitting there like. He's sitting there.
[1:30:33] Speaker 4: LeBron like this.
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: LeMond.
[1:30:35] Speaker 7: Come on.
[1:30:36] Speaker 2: That ain't enough.
[1:30:40] Speaker 4: That ain't enough. You got some more. I know you
[1:30:43] Speaker 4: got some more in there. You got some more. Give
[1:30:45] Speaker 4: me a little bit more. Come on. That's too much.
[1:30:50] Speaker 4: Give me some of that back.
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: That's too much.
[1:30:55] Speaker 6: In all sincerity, how much of this is on JJ,
[1:30:58] Speaker 6: how much is on LeBron, and how much of this
[1:31:00] Speaker 6: is on the front office ownership with this roster construction?
[1:31:03] Speaker 1: Rolling out this same crew again.
[1:31:05] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:31:06] Speaker 6: We've said we need to make moves, but you also
[1:31:08] Speaker 6: got to be real. They're not at full strength. Not
[1:31:10] Speaker 6: sure how much of a difference players that are missing
[1:31:12] Speaker 6: would make.
[1:31:13] Speaker 5: What are those players?
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: Christian Wood and Vanderbilt.
[1:31:18] Speaker 2: And Vanderbilt.
[1:31:20] Speaker 4: We doing what everybody else do. When your two stars
[1:31:23] Speaker 4: can't do it, we just going to blame a guy
[1:31:25] Speaker 4: who averaged two.
[1:31:27] Speaker 2: Our defense would be a lot better if he was
[1:31:29] Speaker 2: out there. If he was out there.
[1:31:31] Speaker 5: This is a guy that averages two.
[1:31:34] Speaker 1: Defense is suffering. Yeah, it's insufferable.
[1:31:38] Speaker 4: Whose fault is it? Listen.
[1:31:42] Speaker 1: Is it time for a trade, Gil?
[1:31:44] Speaker 4: Was it Darvin Ham's fault the second year? No. His
[1:31:50] Speaker 4: only problem was mismanaging Russ. I think that was the
[1:31:54] Speaker 4: bad problem. But I don't think it was necessarily his fault.
[1:31:58] Speaker 4: I think he just came into a situation that already stemmed, right?
[1:32:03] Speaker 4: Was it Fogle? Fogle got Russ first, right? Frank got
[1:32:08] Speaker 4: Russ first, right?
[1:32:10] Speaker 1: Frank Fogle.
[1:32:10] Speaker 2: Frank had Mello and it was him.
[1:32:13] Speaker 4: It was when LeBron got hurt and AD got hurt
[1:32:17] Speaker 4: and he was the only player playing. And somehow we
[1:32:19] Speaker 4: decided to blame Russell because these two dudes don't want
[1:32:24] Speaker 4: to play and they can't play. So he took the
[1:32:26] Speaker 4: backlash because nobody wanted to, because they won a championship.
[1:32:29] Speaker 4: So they off limits. So, Russ, you miss a triple-double,
[1:32:33] Speaker 4: where the triple-double at? Like, that's how we looked at Russ.
[1:32:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:32:36] Speaker 4: So, when Ham came in, it was like, it's Russ fault.
[1:32:39] Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, Russ fault.
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: Uh, come off the bench.
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: He's like, to who? Uh.
[1:32:46] Speaker 1: Gotta pick somebody.
[1:32:48] Speaker 2: Papadelemon.
[1:32:49] Speaker 4: They're going to put White in, right?
[1:32:51] Speaker 1: White makes it right.
[1:32:52] Speaker 4: It was one of those things. So, I think he
[1:32:54] Speaker 4: just mismanaged that situation wrong. And then from there, we
[1:33:00] Speaker 4: just all looked at him as the bad guy because
[1:33:03] Speaker 4: we don't want to put a finger at, you know, LeBron,
[1:33:07] Speaker 4: even though we had four coaches in about six years.
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, facts.
[1:33:11] Speaker 3: Well, we got one ring, so it don't even matter.
[1:33:13] Speaker 4: It's their fault.
[1:33:15] Speaker 1: Facts.
[1:33:15] Speaker 2: It's always their fault. It's always their fault. You know what, Palenka,
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: can we eat him?
[1:33:21] Speaker 4: But see, that's Kobe's guy, so it's like, eh, he's
[1:33:23] Speaker 4: still got Kobe's name.
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: So, you know.
[1:33:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know. I hear you.
[1:33:28] Speaker 2: Magic, though, you know, bring magic in.
[1:33:29] Speaker 4: I'm not going to be here. It's hard to bring magic.
[1:33:31] Speaker 4: He was smart.
[1:33:32] Speaker 1: He's smart.
[1:33:33] Speaker 4: He's smart. He dipped out like, this shit ain't fun, y'all.
[1:33:35] Speaker 4: Hold up.
[1:33:36] Speaker 2: Hand to hand. Hand to hand. Tell me how. Tell
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: me how. Boy, you was this close to being blamed, boy.
[1:33:44] Speaker 4: We almost got you, Magic. You smart.
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: You smart.
[1:33:47] Speaker 4: You smart.
[1:33:49] Speaker 6: So we know where the Lakers are currently, but let's
[1:33:51] Speaker 6: talk a little bit about the future. So, Bronny, back
[1:33:54] Speaker 6: in action. The future of the Lakers. LeBron Raymond James Jr.
[1:33:57] Speaker 6: LeBron was back in action in the G League this
[1:33:59] Speaker 6: weekend after missing some time with a left heel injury.
[1:34:02] Speaker 6: Shook off the rest by having his best game as
[1:34:04] Speaker 6: a pro against the Clippers. G League squad, we got
[1:34:07] Speaker 6: some highlights. LeBron was aggressive on the offensive side of
[1:34:10] Speaker 6: the ball.
[1:34:11] Speaker 7: I was actually at that game.
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: We already know you were stalking your social, so we know.
[1:34:16] Speaker 4: You was at the game?
[1:34:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, we already know you was up there.
[1:34:18] Speaker 6: LeBron was aggressive on the offensive side of the ball,
[1:34:21] Speaker 6: finishing with 16 points. 6-15 from the field, but he
[1:34:24] Speaker 6: had four boards. Two assists in 21 minutes of action.
[1:34:27] Speaker 2: Against the Clippers, so. Good to see it happen, but. Oh,
[1:34:30] Speaker 2: let's just watch.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: I'll just look at the mannerisms. 55th pick, going out
[1:34:33] Speaker 1: there performing.
[1:34:34] Speaker 4: In Adam Silver's developmental league.
[1:34:36] Speaker 3: Most important, South Bay.
[1:34:36] Speaker 8: Lakers got the dub. Ain't no sinners out there. Not
[1:34:52] Speaker 8: on a fast break, my boy.
[1:34:54] Speaker 4: Not on a fast break.
[1:34:55] Speaker 6: So, Ty, you were at the South Bay Lakers game
[1:34:57] Speaker 6: this weekend. How did Bronny look to you out there?
[1:35:03] Speaker 7: He still got some work to do.
[1:35:07] Speaker 3: Like, is it still raw?
[1:35:08] Speaker 4: Like, when you're watching him, like, what are you looking for?
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: Are you looking at, like, right now he should be good? Like,
[1:35:17] Speaker 4: what do you think he will look like in two
[1:35:19] Speaker 4: years from now? Do you think he'd be like, okay,
[1:35:23] Speaker 4: you're going to be functional. You're going to be an
[1:35:25] Speaker 4: NBA player in two years.
[1:35:28] Speaker 7: Watching him, it's like he needs that hunger to want
[1:35:34] Speaker 7: to put in that work to be better.
[1:35:36] Speaker 4: So it's still a privilege? Yeah.
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:35:44] Speaker 4: Yeah. See, and everybody thought I was silly when I
[1:35:46] Speaker 4: said he should work with Quincy. And, you know, and
[1:35:52] Speaker 4: it was like, why not D'Lo, an NBA player? Because
[1:35:55] Speaker 4: D'Lo's been an NBA player. He ain't, he ain't, he.
[1:36:00] Speaker 3: Ain't hungry to get somewhere.
[1:36:02] Speaker 4: Right? Quincy is like, you're talking about a guy who
[1:36:06] Speaker 4: gave his, he gave his resume, like he was going
[1:36:08] Speaker 4: to workouts giving his resume out. that's a whole different
[1:36:12] Speaker 4: type of war.
[1:36:13] Speaker 6: Quincy got his first bucket in his career against the Blazers,
[1:36:16] Speaker 6: hit a three in that game.
[1:36:17] Speaker 4: He's sitting there like, hey, my name is Quincy, here's
[1:36:20] Speaker 4: my resume, this is what I did in college and
[1:36:21] Speaker 4: high school and stuff. That's a whole different type of mentality.
[1:36:25] Speaker 4: That means his back is against the wall. You want
[1:36:28] Speaker 4: to work out with that every day. When you look
[1:36:32] Speaker 4: at a guy who's sitting there He don't want to
[1:36:34] Speaker 4: lose in the line drill. He's showing up early. He's
[1:36:37] Speaker 4: showing up late. He's better than you right now, and
[1:36:40] Speaker 4: he's hungrier. You want to run in the field with
[1:36:45] Speaker 4: that guy. Everybody else in the NBA, they've already been there.
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: D-Lo's chilling.
[1:36:52] Speaker 4: Those guys are NBA players walking in 30 minutes before
[1:36:56] Speaker 4: the game. That's not the guy. You want the guy
[1:36:59] Speaker 4: who at any day could be cut.
[1:37:03] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:37:03] Speaker 4: Those are the guys you want to be around with
[1:37:06] Speaker 4: your motor. Somebody needs to teach you how to use
[1:37:08] Speaker 4: the motor. And the guys in here, you wasn't going
[1:37:12] Speaker 4: to learn shit hanging with me. I'm going to teach
[1:37:15] Speaker 4: you how to party. I'm not going to teach you
[1:37:19] Speaker 4: how to... Like, you're fighting for your life to get
[1:37:22] Speaker 4: to the NBA. Yeah. And that's who you want to
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: be around 24-7. They don't got time for fuckery.
[1:37:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, but to your point.
[1:37:28] Speaker 4: Sorry.
[1:37:29] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:37:30] Speaker 5: When you... Like, I haven't watched him play in person.
[1:37:34] Speaker 5: But when you watch him play and you sang what
[1:37:37] Speaker 5: you said about privilege, you wonder if he'll ever get there.
[1:37:42] Speaker 5: Because does he think, because of who he is and
[1:37:46] Speaker 5: who his dad is, that he's always going to have
[1:37:51] Speaker 5: a place in the G League or the NBA?
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: I don't.
[1:37:56] Speaker 7: And it's not. just saying, I'm not saying that he's privileged.
[1:37:59] Speaker 7: I'm saying, like, when I'm watching him, like, I watch everything.
[1:38:02] Speaker 7: I watch how you react when you miss a shot.
[1:38:04] Speaker 7: I watch how you attack. I watch how you are
[1:38:06] Speaker 7: when you come out the game, when you go in
[1:38:08] Speaker 7: the game. Like, I watch all of that. You know
[1:38:09] Speaker 7: what I'm saying? So, when I'm seeing it, it's like,
[1:38:13] Speaker 7: to see that hunger when you make a turnover. Are
[1:38:15] Speaker 7: you sprinting back? Are you just like, you know? So,
[1:38:19] Speaker 7: those are things I watch when I watch players in general,
[1:38:21] Speaker 7: not just Bronny. But, he has the athleticism, he has
[1:38:25] Speaker 7: the ability, but it's like, I'm seeing, are you really
[1:38:28] Speaker 7: putting in that work to be better? Like, you was
[1:38:31] Speaker 7: up top, and then you got moved down to the
[1:38:33] Speaker 7: G League, so do you have that hunger to go back?
[1:38:35] Speaker 2: You know?
[1:38:37] Speaker 1: Where do you get that from? What? The hunger.
[1:38:41] Speaker 2: Within.
[1:38:41] Speaker 1: When you talk about the steps of the process.
[1:38:43] Speaker 4: From an amateur.
[1:38:44] Speaker 7: It's within. You have to want it.
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: From an amateur to a pro.
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: At what level do you start learning about wanting it?
[1:38:52] Speaker 2: Wanting it?
[1:38:54] Speaker 1: College.
[1:38:56] Speaker 4: Or younger. Younger, yeah.
[1:38:58] Speaker 2: College.
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: It all depends.
[1:38:59] Speaker 2: College is a step you can't skip.
[1:39:02] Speaker 1: That's where the grind is. That's where you learn yourself.
[1:39:06] Speaker 7: I started in high school. Probably before high school. Middle
[1:39:09] Speaker 7: school to high school.
[1:39:10] Speaker 2: The basics, the fundamentals of the game where you understand
[1:39:13] Speaker 2: where your place is in the game is in college,
[1:39:16] Speaker 2: where you actually can decide whether you're going to dominate
[1:39:18] Speaker 2: or not. You can't go back on the high school.
[1:39:21] Speaker 7: But the hunger isn't about dominating.
[1:39:23] Speaker 2: But when you get to college, when you go to
[1:39:25] Speaker 2: McDonald's All-American and you go into all these little senior joints,
[1:39:29] Speaker 2: when you step on campus that first year, it's not
[1:39:32] Speaker 2: high school no more. It's different.
[1:39:34] Speaker 1: It's another level up.
[1:39:36] Speaker 2: And so when you're out there, you're playing another level up,
[1:39:38] Speaker 2: but you're not dominating. You're just a... Person in the pack.
[1:39:43] Speaker 2: You going to be content with being a person in
[1:39:44] Speaker 2: the pack or you going to find a way to
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: be the leader of the pack? This is when I
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: was in college. I don't know how it is now,
[1:39:49] Speaker 2: but that's how I'm not in here to be with y'all.
[1:39:52] Speaker 2: I'm here to be up here. So I've always said
[1:39:56] Speaker 2: for Bronnie, I've always said for Bronnie. If you have
[1:39:59] Speaker 2: that in high school and you can't convert it, go
[1:40:01] Speaker 2: to college where you can dominate. Go to college where
[1:40:04] Speaker 2: you find yourself. Now all we're hearing is he going
[1:40:07] Speaker 2: down to learn from Quincy. If I'm Quincy, why am
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: I teaching somebody to replace me?
[1:40:14] Speaker 4: I'm teaching you how to replace me and you skip
[1:40:17] Speaker 4: steps that I've spent four years in them steps.
[1:40:20] Speaker 2: Four years in these steps and you mean to tell
[1:40:23] Speaker 2: me I got to come and help somebody who skipped
[1:40:25] Speaker 2: them steps?
[1:40:26] Speaker 4: Then that means you ain't who you are then. Because
[1:40:30] Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck who you think you are.
[1:40:32] Speaker 4: You're not replacing me. No doubt. The reason you can't
[1:40:35] Speaker 4: replace me is because you're mimicking, you're trying to get
[1:40:38] Speaker 4: what I have today. I've been hungry from day one.
[1:40:43] Speaker 4: I've been hungry from high school. I've been hungry from,
[1:40:45] Speaker 4: you know, college, middle school.
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: I've been hungry my whole life.
[1:40:50] Speaker 4: So you can't gain this type of hunger today.
[1:40:54] Speaker 3: Just working out with me.
[1:40:55] Speaker 2: Bro, me and you are going for the same spot.
[1:40:58] Speaker 4: Cool.
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: You're not going to beat me on it. You didn't
[1:41:00] Speaker 2: get here because of how I got here.
[1:41:03] Speaker 4: You got here.
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: Because your pops did.
[1:41:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can't beat me.
[1:41:05] Speaker 2: So now we're lined up. Yes. We're lined up.
[1:41:08] Speaker 4: You have an advantage. What's your advantage?
[1:41:11] Speaker 2: You already signed and you have favor from your pops.
[1:41:14] Speaker 2: So why am I... I now have to take what
[1:41:17] Speaker 2: I know from college and give it to you because
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: you didn't want to go to college. That's crazy.
[1:41:24] Speaker 3: College has nothing to do with anything.
[1:41:25] Speaker 2: You just said the dude that spent four years, you
[1:41:27] Speaker 2: want him to learn from him. You want him to
[1:41:29] Speaker 2: learn from the guys that know about the grind, that
[1:41:31] Speaker 2: know about this. He learned that from college. He learned
[1:41:34] Speaker 2: the grind from college. He learned the grind from four
[1:41:37] Speaker 2: years of college, bro, and you know it.
[1:41:39] Speaker 3: I didn't learn grind from college.
[1:41:43] Speaker 2: You definitely learned grind from college. You was the man
[1:41:46] Speaker 2: in high school.
[1:41:47] Speaker 4: No, I got cut my freshman year in high school
[1:41:49] Speaker 4: while I was on JV, played 14 minutes for the
[1:41:52] Speaker 4: whole season. He said I wouldn't be an NBA... He
[1:41:55] Speaker 4: said I wouldn't be a varsity player. That right there
[1:41:57] Speaker 4: hurt me so bad that... I needed to prove him wrong.
[1:42:01] Speaker 1: Okay, MJ.
[1:42:01] Speaker 2: You was averaging 40 and 50.
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: I was on... No, that was after the fact. I
[1:42:06] Speaker 4: went to Birmingham High School. I was on JV. I
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: was a bench player, and I went up to the
[1:42:13] Speaker 4: coach average. I just had my best game of the season,
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: 10 points.
[1:42:17] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:42:17] Speaker 4: Ten points, last game, like, hey. Well, Rashad, why are
[1:42:20] Speaker 4: you shaking your head?
[1:42:21] Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm excited. You're not talking about the grind
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: of college.
[1:42:24] Speaker 4: That is a grind, but that.
[1:42:25] Speaker 2: The college grind, not the high school grind. No, but
[1:42:27] Speaker 2: you got to understand.
[1:42:28] Speaker 7: But are you saying, like, the grind makes you hungry?
[1:42:30] Speaker 2: I'm saying the grind prepares you to deal with the pros.
[1:42:33] Speaker 4: No.
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: When you ain't got to go down to the G
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: League and have to prove.
[1:42:37] Speaker 1: That you can play.
[1:42:38] Speaker 3: But that's not the.
[1:42:40] Speaker 4: It's something that happens in your life that brings that grind.
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: What?
[1:42:43] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:42:44] Speaker 2: What?
[1:42:45] Speaker 4: I was just a basketball player, just happy to be
[1:42:47] Speaker 4: out there, motherfucker. And this white man told me, you
[1:42:50] Speaker 4: will never make this varsity team.
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: And I'm like.
[1:42:52] Speaker 2: You done told four different stories now. about what's happened
[1:42:56] Speaker 2: when you were younger, bro. First you played football, then
[1:43:00] Speaker 2: your dad picked you up and told you, man, you've
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: been told so many, I don't even know where to
[1:43:04] Speaker 2: start now.
[1:43:05] Speaker 4: Everybody knows the story of my freshman year going to
[1:43:07] Speaker 4: Birmingham and I wasn't.
[1:43:08] Speaker 1: A good player.
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: Well, we're talking about your last year. We're talking about
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: your last year. But I'm not a good player. I'm
[1:43:14] Speaker 4: a JV player, and I scored 10 points thinking that
[1:43:17] Speaker 4: was something. And this man told me, yo, you're not
[1:43:19] Speaker 4: a NBA player. I mean, you're not a varsity player.
[1:43:22] Speaker 4: You're never going to be a varsity player. And that
[1:43:24] Speaker 4: right there. Changed my whole life. Like, I need to
[1:43:27] Speaker 4: prove you wrong. So I didn't even sleep that summer.
[1:43:30] Speaker 4: Got so good, I transferred, went to Grant, and became
[1:43:34] Speaker 4: a varsity player.
[1:43:35] Speaker 2: Bro, when you got to Arizona, you said you had
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: the red shirt of Arizona.
[1:43:38] Speaker 4: They told me I was in a red shirt.
[1:43:39] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: Boom.
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: And then what happened when they told you that?
[1:43:42] Speaker 4: But I wasn't even on the road to get to
[1:43:44] Speaker 4: Arizona if it wasn't for the dude at Birmingham.
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: Cool.
[1:43:47] Speaker 2: But when you got there, you didn't red shirt because what?
[1:43:51] Speaker 3: Because my grind.
[1:43:53] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[1:43:53] Speaker 4: But where did I get the grind? I got the
[1:43:55] Speaker 4: grind already.
[1:43:55] Speaker 2: You had to show them your grind in college.
[1:43:57] Speaker 4: No, I already had the grind from that freshman year,
[1:44:00] Speaker 4: my sophomore year.
[1:44:00] Speaker 2: They didn't know that at college you had that. You
[1:44:02] Speaker 2: showed the college people your grind. And then when you
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: was grinding in college, it helped you get to the pros.
[1:44:08] Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is I'm already that dude with
[1:44:12] Speaker 4: the grind. I'm already, that man made me the killer
[1:44:15] Speaker 4: I was.
[1:44:16] Speaker 2: Okay, so Ronnie not that guy. He didn't start out
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: like that guy. He didn't have the grind.
[1:44:20] Speaker 4: But when you say you asked somebody about me in
[1:44:22] Speaker 4: high school, they will say, that man was a killer.
[1:44:25] Speaker 4: I already knew, like, oh, my God, this is what
[1:44:27] Speaker 4: people think of me. I'm destroying everybody. There was no score.
[1:44:32] Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck what the score is. He
[1:44:35] Speaker 4: wasn't going to take me off. If we up 50,
[1:44:37] Speaker 4: I'm trying to score 60. That concept, I was on
[1:44:41] Speaker 4: the bench, and I knew what it was. So when
[1:44:43] Speaker 4: I got to college, what happened is they just inherited
[1:44:47] Speaker 4: what I already was.
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: So why didn't that translate the same way for Bronny?
[1:44:51] Speaker 4: Because he didn't have it.
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: He's a McDonald's All-American. He dominated in high school.
[1:44:55] Speaker 4: But he didn't. That's a lie.
[1:44:57] Speaker 2: But he didn't.
[1:44:57] Speaker 4: Because he didn't have, what he didn't have, he didn't.
[1:45:00] Speaker 3: Have the door slammed in his face yet.
[1:45:05] Speaker 1: The grind?
[1:45:06] Speaker 3: The door slammed in his face.
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: You mean the grind? Yes. When you get to college?
[1:45:10] Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with college.
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: When you get to college.
[1:45:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because it has everything. Because everybody who went
[1:45:16] Speaker 2: through the grind, I know your coach fucked with you
[1:45:18] Speaker 2: in college. The girls fucked with you in college. The
[1:45:21] Speaker 2: professor fucked with you in college. You got to figure
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: out how to mitigate all three of those. You got
[1:45:25] Speaker 2: a mom you can't go visit. She might be sick.
[1:45:28] Speaker 2: It's a bunch of shit. You got the grind and
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: you're on your own.
[1:45:31] Speaker 4: You on your own. You get to do that.
[1:45:34] Speaker 7: I had to grind in high school.
[1:45:37] Speaker 4: Where did Kobe get his grind from? He didn't go
[1:45:38] Speaker 4: to college. I grinded in high school, too. I went
[1:45:41] Speaker 4: to boarding school when I was 15 years old because
[1:45:44] Speaker 4: they didn't take the route I took.
[1:45:46] Speaker 2: But when I went to college, it helped me for
[1:45:47] Speaker 2: the three years to figure out who I was and
[1:45:49] Speaker 2: what the grind really was.
[1:45:50] Speaker 5: Everybody's journey is different.
[1:45:52] Speaker 2: 100%. Hundred percent. So what we're talking about, are we
[1:45:55] Speaker 2: talking about what, a hypothetical now? Are we saying everybody
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: has a opinion now?
[1:45:58] Speaker 4: No, what I'm saying is right now he's been privileged, right?
[1:46:01] Speaker 2: I've been saying that from the start.
[1:46:03] Speaker 4: The only way he's going to learn how to get
[1:46:08] Speaker 4: something is to go against a guy who has it.
[1:46:12] Speaker 4: How do you learn how to be a tiger unless
[1:46:15] Speaker 4: you go in a cage with one? They'll show you
[1:46:18] Speaker 4: how to be one. Right now, when you look at
[1:46:20] Speaker 4: all the people he's around, the only person that has,
[1:46:24] Speaker 4: I want to be there, is Quincy. D-Lo's there.
[1:46:29] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:46:29] Speaker 4: Konek is there.
[1:46:31] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:46:32] Speaker 4: Lemon Daddy, he's there. Like, they come in the locker room,
[1:46:35] Speaker 4: they sitting just like this. The only person that's sitting
[1:46:37] Speaker 4: there with the jittery bugs is probably fucking Quincy sitting
[1:46:40] Speaker 4: there like, yo, I need to get into it. That's
[1:46:42] Speaker 4: who he needs to hang around with. I don't give
[1:46:44] Speaker 4: a fuck if he's a G League player. He has
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: something Bronny needs, and what he has is determination to
[1:46:51] Speaker 4: get somewhere. He's outside of the club right now, and
[1:46:55] Speaker 4: he wants to be inside of the club.
[1:46:56] Speaker 2: So you're telling me he has something Bronny doesn't have.
[1:46:59] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:47:00] Speaker 2: And he's in front of Bronny. I mean, Bronny's in
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: front of him.
[1:47:02] Speaker 3: No, he's in front. Talent-wise, he's in front of Bronny.
[1:47:05] Speaker 1: Of course, because he has four years of college.
[1:47:07] Speaker 4: It don't matter how many years of college you have. Talent-wise,
[1:47:12] Speaker 4: he has more than them.
[1:47:12] Speaker 2: Don Connect and Quincy both look like polished college players. Both.
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: Polished.
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: In college, four to five years. Polished.
[1:47:19] Speaker 2: Bronny looks like he's still playing high school. That was
[1:47:23] Speaker 2: my whole thing. Go to college, dominate, learn the college game,
[1:47:27] Speaker 2: and come out as a polished college player. What's wrong
[1:47:29] Speaker 2: with that?
[1:47:29] Speaker 6: I went to college for one year, but I've had
[1:47:31] Speaker 6: the cardiac arrest situation, so I didn't play until, I think, December.
[1:47:34] Speaker 2: I don't see what's so crazy about that.
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: It's not hating.
[1:47:37] Speaker 4: It's because he's not in college.
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: I know.
[1:47:39] Speaker 4: He left, so it don't matter. Who cares? You can
[1:47:42] Speaker 4: still learn how to grind.
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: How?
[1:47:45] Speaker 4: There's a G-League. All grinders down there. Find one.
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: You don't even go with us on the road. That's
[1:47:52] Speaker 2: the grind.
[1:47:52] Speaker 4: I don't need to be with you on the road. Yeah,
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: that's the grind. Who do you think I learned how
[1:47:56] Speaker 4: to grind for when I got to the NBA? Bench player.
[1:48:00] Speaker 4: Mark Jackson.
[1:48:02] Speaker 2: You're not grinding with us on the road, yo.
[1:48:04] Speaker 5: My thing is.
[1:48:05] Speaker 2: Mark Jackson. You're not grinding with us on the road.
[1:48:07] Speaker 2: He ain't playing.
[1:48:08] Speaker 4: I learned how to grind and be an NBA player
[1:48:11] Speaker 4: from Mark Jackson.
[1:48:12] Speaker 1: Sure.
[1:48:12] Speaker 2: Why not?
[1:48:13] Speaker 9: What?
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: Okay, because we can hear you.
[1:48:15] Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:48:16] Speaker 5: My question is, to your point, why why didn't LeBron
[1:48:24] Speaker 5: tell him to stay in school another year.
[1:48:27] Speaker 2: Answer that I'm not LeBron James oh my god you're
[1:48:31] Speaker 2: not the script writer you're the script writer why did
[1:48:34] Speaker 2: he tell him tell him Hollywood is a good movie
[1:48:38] Speaker 2: to sell.
[1:48:39] Speaker 1: Space Jam 2, excellent film. High quality cinema, but.
[1:48:45] Speaker 4: Why did he stay?
[1:48:46] Speaker 2: Why did LeBron... She said, why did LeBron not tell him.
[1:48:50] Speaker 4: To stay in college?
[1:48:50] Speaker 5: You know what? You're not ready yet. Go one more
[1:48:54] Speaker 5: year in college and.
[1:48:56] Speaker 3: I mean, it's been pointing.
[1:48:58] Speaker 4: What happened.
[1:48:59] Speaker 3: To him early in his college career?
[1:49:01] Speaker 6: So, the summer before his freshman year, had a cardiac arrest,
[1:49:04] Speaker 6: near-death experience. Had to sit out for a little bit,
[1:49:07] Speaker 6: but came back.
[1:49:08] Speaker 1: Played 27 games.
[1:49:09] Speaker 5: I know, I remember that happening.
[1:49:11] Speaker 4: What happens, we hear stories all day. We've had relatives
[1:49:16] Speaker 4: and family when they almost died, life changes for them, right? Decisions,
[1:49:21] Speaker 4: their outlook on life is very different, right? So if
[1:49:26] Speaker 4: your son says, hey, I don't know what's going to happen,
[1:49:29] Speaker 4: but I just want my name called in NBA, are
[1:49:33] Speaker 4: you going to question that as a parent or.
[1:49:35] Speaker 3: Are you going to make it happen?
[1:49:37] Speaker 4: We can sit here and beat around the bush, but
[1:49:39] Speaker 4: I know my son tells me, hey, Dad, you know,
[1:49:42] Speaker 4: I almost didn't make it.
[1:49:43] Speaker 3: I need you to do something.
[1:49:46] Speaker 7: You're going to do something?
[1:49:46] Speaker 4: I'm going to do something. I don't give a fuck
[1:49:48] Speaker 4: if you're ready or not. You tell him my son
[1:49:50] Speaker 4: got a goddamn Cybertruck out there. That motherfucker ain't got
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: a license for shit. He don't have a license. He
[1:49:57] Speaker 4: don't have, he don't, he ain't take the test. He
[1:50:00] Speaker 4: ain't drove the motherfucker yet. He just looks at it
[1:50:03] Speaker 4: knowing he got it. He said this is what he want,
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: you got it. You figure the rest of the shit out.
[1:50:08] Speaker 6: Where the keys at, girl? I will test drive it
[1:50:11] Speaker 6: for him.
[1:50:11] Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that as parents, we can say, yo,
[1:50:15] Speaker 4: I can either say, nah, wait till you get your
[1:50:17] Speaker 4: license and do all that. But for what?
[1:50:19] Speaker 7: But even if, like, if he don't have to stay
[1:50:21] Speaker 7: in college, why make him stay?
[1:50:22] Speaker 4: Why me? If someone dumb enough to draft you like me,
[1:50:30] Speaker 4: the milk is spilled.
[1:50:32] Speaker 2: He's drafted.
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: The only reality here is he got drafted by the
[1:50:42] Speaker 4: Lakers at 55. That's reality. The narrative is what everybody
[1:50:49] Speaker 4: else say.
[1:50:51] Speaker 3: He shouldn't be here. He should have stayed in.
[1:50:52] Speaker 4: College because that's not the truth. Like, you don't like
[1:50:55] Speaker 4: the reality, so you want to create the narrative. The
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: narrative and the reality is he's drafted. He got three years,
[1:51:02] Speaker 4: four years guaranteed. That's his reality.
[1:51:05] Speaker 5: It doesn't matter to me when we're there.
[1:51:07] Speaker 4: You don't like it, then you can create whatever you want,
[1:51:09] Speaker 4: but that's not real.
[1:51:10] Speaker 7: I ain't putting food on my table.
[1:51:13] Speaker 5: It doesn't really matter to me or not. It was
[1:51:17] Speaker 5: more of a question, but what happens if... Do you
[1:51:22] Speaker 5: think Bronny thinks he's better than what he is right now?
[1:51:27] Speaker 3: Does any player ever do?
[1:51:30] Speaker 4: No, what I'm saying is.
[1:51:30] Speaker 5: Do you think Bronny's like, I'm better than the G League?
[1:51:34] Speaker 3: No, you know, every player knows where they really are.
[1:51:38] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:51:39] Speaker 4: You know, just like a number one kid. He knows
[1:51:43] Speaker 4: when he goes up against somebody else. He knows that
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: dude's whooped my ass. You know that.
[1:51:47] Speaker 5: Do you think Brian thinks he's better than the G League?
[1:51:54] Speaker 4: No.
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: Right now, 19 years old, though, so.
[1:51:55] Speaker 4: He knows exactly.
[1:51:56] Speaker 3: 20.
[1:51:57] Speaker 4: He knows exactly where he is, and right now, he's
[1:52:00] Speaker 4: just trying to figure out how to get better. Like.
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: That's my problem. My problem is being okay with that.
[1:52:06] Speaker 3: Trying to get better?
[1:52:07] Speaker 2: Being okay with skipping the steps, and now you have
[1:52:09] Speaker 2: to deal with what the reality is of somebody else's.
[1:52:12] Speaker 1: Vision for you.
[1:52:13] Speaker 3: My vision's for myself.
[1:52:15] Speaker 2: Nah, the vision wasn't for yourself.
[1:52:17] Speaker 4: I don't understand, like, why doesn't he have the same
[1:52:20] Speaker 4: grace to be able to get better? Why does he
[1:52:25] Speaker 4: have to be great right now?
[1:52:26] Speaker 3: Who was great right now?
[1:52:29] Speaker 4: Who was better their rookie year than they was their
[1:52:31] Speaker 4: entire year? Never seen that before. Like, even if you
[1:52:34] Speaker 4: are Michael Jordan, you averaged 24 or 8 your rookie year.
[1:52:38] Speaker 4: That wasn't your best. You got better. Kobe averaged 7
[1:52:43] Speaker 4: coming off the bench. They booed him. Oh, shit, this
[1:52:48] Speaker 4: is the horrible, most horrible person.
[1:52:49] Speaker 2: Name him Kobe and Jordan when we talking about Ronnie, bro.
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe became Kobe.
[1:52:56] Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about Kobe's first couple games. They booed
[1:52:59] Speaker 4: that man. They booed him. You wasn't a Kobe fan.
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: Joe Jelly Bean did not come down and say, hey, man,
[1:53:06] Speaker 2: drive my son, B, and.
[1:53:07] Speaker 6: I'm going to play another 10 years for y'all.
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[1:53:13] Speaker 4: Is that how he felt?
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: Oh, God.
[1:53:16] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:53:16] Speaker 2: Oh, sir. I'm giving a 10 for y'all. Y'all jabbed
[1:53:19] Speaker 2: my boy.
[1:53:19] Speaker 4: You wasn't a fan when Kobe scored zero. First game, 1, 5, 10, 2, 2, 6, 4, 3, 11.
[1:53:24] Speaker 4: You wasn't a fan then.
[1:53:30] Speaker 2: How do you know?
[1:53:31] Speaker 4: Because you wasn't. Because the media, they're booing him. He's
[1:53:34] Speaker 4: not ready. He should have went to college. They were
[1:53:37] Speaker 4: saying all that. What does that have to do with Bronny?
[1:53:38] Speaker 4: In the very next year, he get a little better.
[1:53:40] Speaker 4: What does that have to do with Bronny? In the
[1:53:41] Speaker 4: very next year, oh shit, we need to trade Eddie Jones.
[1:53:44] Speaker 2: What does that have to do with Bronny?
[1:53:46] Speaker 4: You're not even giving him a chance to go out
[1:53:48] Speaker 4: there and shoot.
[1:53:49] Speaker 2: To beat Kobe Bryant?
[1:53:50] Speaker 4: Let him shoot four air balls. To beat Kobe Bryant?
[1:53:52] Speaker 4: It don't matter who he's going to be. You're not
[1:53:54] Speaker 4: giving him a chance. You're not giving him a chance
[1:53:56] Speaker 4: that everyone's got.
[1:53:58] Speaker 2: There's a rookie season.
[1:53:59] Speaker 4: There's a few fucking games. There's a sophomore season. There's
[1:54:02] Speaker 4: a junior season. You move like that.
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: Say it again.
[1:54:07] Speaker 4: Say it again.
[1:54:08] Speaker 2: What is it?
[1:54:08] Speaker 4: Say it again.
[1:54:09] Speaker 2: How many? What did he just say? What did he say?
[1:54:11] Speaker 2: It's a what season? Did you say sophomore?
[1:54:13] Speaker 4: Sophomore to your second year, junior to your third year.
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:54:15] Speaker 2: It sounded like he was explaining college.
[1:54:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be.
[1:54:18] Speaker 4: This would be a sophomore year.
[1:54:20] Speaker 2: It sounded like he was talking about college.
[1:54:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be a sophomore year, sophomore year.
[1:54:25] Speaker 7: You saying that he missed college, he's saying that he's
[1:54:27] Speaker 7: in the league now, so.
[1:54:28] Speaker 2: And he's treating the league as college. He's treating the
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: league as college. And it's not... That's not how the
[1:54:34] Speaker 2: league works. That's not.
[1:54:36] Speaker 4: It doesn't.
[1:54:37] Speaker 7: But he's got time to get better.
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: He's got plenty of time. It's like they're refusing to
[1:54:42] Speaker 4: do time.
[1:54:43] Speaker 2: No, we're not. Like, time. What he's saying is just
[1:54:45] Speaker 2: it hasn't worked in favor of the actual guy.
[1:54:48] Speaker 4: Like, it hasn't worked. Says who? You're not even giving
[1:54:51] Speaker 4: it time. You're like, this nigga got to be going
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: out there giving 25 a game.
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: You say the same thing. You say the same thing
[1:54:57] Speaker 2: with Zack Eady and all of them. Because he's 23.
[1:55:00] Speaker 2: So what? Give him some time.
[1:55:03] Speaker 4: By the time he gets time, he's retired.
[1:55:05] Speaker 2: You only work with that with the young guys? You
[1:55:07] Speaker 2: don't want to give the old guys some time, too?
[1:55:10] Speaker 2: Give him some time.
[1:55:11] Speaker 4: He's 22.
[1:55:12] Speaker 2: Give him some time.
[1:55:13] Speaker 4: He's 23. You don't say that.
[1:55:14] Speaker 2: You don't say that. Everybody's young.
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: No.
[1:55:19] Speaker 3: Everybody's not young. That's not reality. Everybody's not young.
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: If you're a rookie, you're young.
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: He is a real rookie, right?
[1:55:28] Speaker 4: He is a real NBA rookie with his age. Bronny
[1:55:32] Speaker 4: is a sophomore in college. He's just an NBA. So
[1:55:36] Speaker 4: he's not going to be graded as an NBA rookie
[1:55:40] Speaker 4: until he's really an NBA rookie. That's how it works. Okay.
[1:55:51] Speaker 3: I'm... Wasn't this you?
[1:55:55] Speaker 4: Hold on. Josiah, what are you doing?
[1:55:59] Speaker 1: No, this was.
[1:56:00] Speaker 2: Take off the pieces and transition right there.
[1:56:02] Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
[1:56:03] Speaker 2: I left a significant gap for you to take that and.
[1:56:07] Speaker 3: No, because I think this was.
[1:56:07] Speaker 1: I thought you were building... Wasn't it Shad?
[1:56:10] Speaker 3: Right, Shad sent us a post.
[1:56:13] Speaker 2: Mm-mm.
[1:56:13] Speaker 3: Right, he sent us a post. It was when he was.
[1:56:16] Speaker 5: He know what it is, too.
[1:56:17] Speaker 2: Shad, why you covering your face?
[1:56:18] Speaker 4: When he was comparing Jordan and Kobe, but they do
[1:56:22] Speaker 4: what I do. By the age 24. Not by years
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: they were in the league. By the age of 24
[1:56:29] Speaker 4: to say, who was better at 24 years old?
[1:56:34] Speaker 2: Yep.
[1:56:34] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:56:35] Speaker 3: He sent that because it favors Kobe.
[1:56:37] Speaker 4: Because it favors Kobe because Kobe is six years in
[1:56:42] Speaker 4: the NBA at this age.
[1:56:43] Speaker 2: That's not even why I sent it.
[1:56:45] Speaker 4: Why'd you send it?
[1:56:45] Speaker 2: I sent it because Kobe's actually being compared to Michael
[1:56:48] Speaker 2: Jordan at 24.
[1:56:51] Speaker 4: No, he wasn't comparing. He was saying who's better.
[1:56:55] Speaker 2: That's a comparison.
[1:56:56] Speaker 3: No, that's not a comparison.
[1:56:57] Speaker 1: Okay, what do you call that? Who's better? Yeah, what
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: do you call that? Who's better?
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: You don't call that a comparison? No. That's not called
[1:57:04] Speaker 2: a comparison.
[1:57:05] Speaker 1: No.
[1:57:07] Speaker 2: Who's better is not called a comparison. Who's better is
[1:57:12] Speaker 2: not a comparison.
[1:57:13] Speaker 1: So Drake and Kendrick is compared to each other?
[1:57:16] Speaker 2: You have to fucking compare them next to each other, Gilbert,
[1:57:20] Speaker 2: when you want to consider who's better.
[1:57:21] Speaker 1: Call him Gilbert.
[1:57:23] Speaker 2: That's called a comparison.
[1:57:25] Speaker 4: Let's go. What the hell? Do I have to pick
[1:57:28] Speaker 4: up the pieces? You don't need to compare to someone
[1:57:31] Speaker 4: to each other.
[1:57:31] Speaker 3: Who's better? Who's better at this age?
[1:57:33] Speaker 4: That's what you're doing.
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: You're comparing them.
[1:57:35] Speaker 4: At this age.
[1:57:35] Speaker 1: Gilbert, you're saying who's better.
[1:57:37] Speaker 4: So who was better at that age?
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: You want me to compare them? No, no, no.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: Who was better?
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: You want me to compare them?
[1:57:43] Speaker 2: No, it's not compare them. You compare the age. You
[1:57:45] Speaker 2: want me to compare the age. Okay, I'm going to
[1:57:48] Speaker 2: compare the age.
[1:57:50] Speaker 4: That's stupid.
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: Like Kobe at 24. Kobe at 24.
[1:57:55] Speaker 4: Was better than Jordan at 24.
[1:57:57] Speaker 1: Plays like Michael Jordan.
[1:58:00] Speaker 3: At 24?
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:58:01] Speaker 3: So Kobe at 24 played like Michael Jordan at 24?
[1:58:03] Speaker 1: Which is why they were comparing him at 24.
[1:58:08] Speaker 3: Michael Jordan at 24.
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: And Kobe Bryant at 24 was not even the same
[1:58:13] Speaker 4: human being. Right, you know with Michael Jordan, it's the
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: Michael Jordan with the hair.
[1:58:21] Speaker 2: Right? That one.
[1:58:22] Speaker 4: It was the hair Michael Jordan, the one who was
[1:58:24] Speaker 4: doing all that. That was nothing that looked like Kobe Bryant.
[1:58:28] Speaker 4: They're not even in the same conversation of comparisons. That
[1:58:33] Speaker 4: was a whole different human being. Kobe was compared to
[1:58:37] Speaker 4: the 95 to 8 Michael Jordan, the one playing back
[1:58:42] Speaker 4: to the basket, the old motherfucker doing the fadeaway with
[1:58:44] Speaker 4: the tongue out.
[1:58:45] Speaker 3: That's who Kobe was compared to.
[1:58:47] Speaker 4: He was not compared to The black cat. Don't look
[1:58:51] Speaker 4: in his eyes.
[1:58:52] Speaker 2: That dude.
[1:58:53] Speaker 3: He was not compared to that dude.
[1:58:56] Speaker 4: So they were just comparing the age. And then, you know,
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: just for shits and giggles, I threw in LeBron, who was,
[1:59:02] Speaker 4: out of all three of them, who was better at
[1:59:05] Speaker 4: the age of 24.
[1:59:05] Speaker 3: Who was?
[1:59:10] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:59:16] Speaker 6: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Wait, hold
[1:59:19] Speaker 6: on before we do. By the age of 24, only two... Okay,
[1:59:21] Speaker 6: it's still working. Only two of them got MVPs.
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
[1:59:26] Speaker 3: One had three.
[1:59:28] Speaker 4: Or two.
[1:59:29] Speaker 2: The whole thing was at the age of 24, Kobe
[1:59:32] Speaker 2: Bryant was being compared to Michael Jordan.
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: That was the whole thing. He just went on that
[1:59:36] Speaker 1: whole thing.
[1:59:38] Speaker 2: At the age of 24, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
[1:59:41] Speaker 2: was a conversation.
[1:59:43] Speaker 3: That's all I mean. That's not how you do conversations.
[1:59:48] Speaker 2: In the link that I sent, there was the conversation
[1:59:51] Speaker 2: actually attached to the link where they were talking about,
[1:59:55] Speaker 2: they asked two people, are we seeing Kobe Bryant look
[1:59:58] Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan?
[1:59:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:00:04] Speaker 2: For context, for context.
[2:00:06] Speaker 4: Think about if Kobe's 24, when did this article, when
[2:00:11] Speaker 4: is this conversation?
[2:00:12] Speaker 1: 2002. No, was it 2005? 2002. 2002.
[2:00:17] Speaker 4: So that means Michael Jordan's been, you know, he's not, oh,
[2:00:20] Speaker 4: he's with the Wizards now.
[2:00:21] Speaker 1: He's on his way.
[2:00:21] Speaker 4: Right, so that means whatever career he has is done.
[2:00:25] Speaker 4: So they're comparing, that's why they're not comparing him to
[2:00:28] Speaker 4: his career.
[2:00:29] Speaker 3: They're comparing to age. Who is better at the same age?
[2:00:34] Speaker 4: That's by the same age.
[2:00:37] Speaker 5: And that's based off of their stats?
[2:00:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, stats, accomplishments, like what Michael Jordan did
[2:00:43] Speaker 4: from 21 to 24. So what was it based off of?
[2:00:48] Speaker 2: Your airness, your highness, your swag, your grace, your style. What?
[2:00:56] Speaker 1: Everything.
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: Your shot making. Your Kobe motherfucking Brian.
[2:01:00] Speaker 4: That's why.
[2:01:01] Speaker 2: What do you mean what else? It's Kobe. I'm Kobe.
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: I look like Mike when I play. That's what it is.
[2:01:06] Speaker 2: It ain't got nothing to do with no stat, no
[2:01:08] Speaker 2: free throw, no free pointer. I look like Michael Jordan
[2:01:12] Speaker 2: when I play.
[2:01:12] Speaker 4: Then show me one.
[2:01:16] Speaker 1: Everything.
[2:01:17] Speaker 2: Mentality.
[2:01:18] Speaker 1: Everything.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: I'm him too.
[2:01:21] Speaker 4: Then I want you to go and find me. Kobe,
[2:01:27] Speaker 4: that means Kobe from 18 to 24. You show me.
[2:01:32] Speaker 4: a two-minute highlight reel of him looking like Michael Jordan.
[2:01:38] Speaker 1: From 21 to 24.
[2:01:39] Speaker 3: Give me.
[2:01:44] Speaker 4: Two good minutes.
[2:01:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this.
[2:01:47] Speaker 2: That's it.
[2:01:48] Speaker 4: That's not the fadeaway Michael Jordan. That's the one doing
[2:01:51] Speaker 4: all this and doing all... That's that Michael Jordan. Show
[2:01:54] Speaker 4: me Kobe Bryant looking like him.
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: And while you do that, we're going to move on.
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: This is not the fadeaway Mike. This is not that
[2:02:03] Speaker 4: Michael Jordan. This is the Michael Jordan. This is the logo.
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: You know the guy on the logo?
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:02:10] Speaker 4: You know the Michael Jordan. Who got Michael Jordan shoes on?
[2:02:13] Speaker 4: Anybody got a Michael Jordan?
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: I'm a broke boy.
[2:02:15] Speaker 4: Give me that. Give me that shoe.
[2:02:16] Speaker 1: Give me that shoe.
[2:02:17] Speaker 4: Give me that shoe right there.
[2:02:18] Speaker 2: Don't give Gil your.
[2:02:19] Speaker 4: Shoes, dude. We talking about. This nigga right here, that's six, right?
[2:02:25] Speaker 2: We want this one.
[2:02:26] Speaker 1: This Michael Jordan.
[2:02:28] Speaker 4: Not the fadeaway. His signature move is the fadeaway. His
[2:02:31] Speaker 4: logo is this. That's two different dudes, right? The signature
[2:02:37] Speaker 4: is what? The logo is this. That means to get
[2:02:44] Speaker 4: one of these, you have to be a whole.
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: Different human being. To get one of what? This. Logo?
[2:02:50] Speaker 4: No, no, no. This logo.
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: Oh.
[2:02:52] Speaker 4: The logo that's different from your signature.
[2:02:55] Speaker 2: I know Kobe got a logo, too. What's his logo?
[2:02:58] Speaker 1: It looks like a big caution sign.
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: It looks like a big watch where you step in sign.
[2:03:03] Speaker 4: All right, just understand, those are two different human beings,
[2:03:07] Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure... 24-year-old Kobe did not look like
[2:03:11] Speaker 4: 24-year-old Michael Jordan.
[2:03:13] Speaker 1: I can tell you that.
[2:03:15] Speaker 4: Because the Kobe they compared him to, that was Michael
[2:03:18] Speaker 4: Jordan at 36.
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: 35, 36.
[2:03:19] Speaker 4: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. WNBA. You know,
[2:03:27] Speaker 4: because one was started off as a Bugatti. The other
[2:03:31] Speaker 4: was like a good S600. You know what I mean?
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: Just very tuned up.
[2:03:34] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[2:03:35] Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure at them same, them same, and when
[2:03:37] Speaker 4: we moved off the lot, one's a Bugatti, one's an S600.
[2:03:43] Speaker 1: Both very fine quality.
[2:03:44] Speaker 4: One's a Bentley.
[2:03:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll drive one.
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: One's an S300, right?
[2:03:51] Speaker 4: It looks like a Bentley to a Bentley.
[2:03:55] Speaker 6: WNBA held its first expansion draft since 2008 this weekend
[2:03:59] Speaker 6: as the Golden State Valkyries assembled their roster for the
[2:04:01] Speaker 6: upcoming season.
[2:04:01] Speaker 4: It looks like a Phantom until the Phantom shows up.
[2:04:04] Speaker 6: As the Golden State Valkyries assembled their roster for the
[2:04:06] Speaker 6: upcoming season under new head coach, UCLA legend, Natalie Nicosi.
[2:04:10] Speaker 6: So every team around the league. can protect their top
[2:04:12] Speaker 6: six players, leaving the remaining six eligible to get selected.
[2:04:15] Speaker 6: But the league didn't reveal the protected players list before
[2:04:18] Speaker 6: the draft to the disappointment of many. It created a
[2:04:20] Speaker 6: lot more chaos to know who teams prioritized, who they didn't.
[2:04:23] Speaker 6: Needless to say, we do have the Golden State Valkyries draft.
[2:04:28] Speaker 6: So the picks were announced in three groups in alphabetical
[2:04:31] Speaker 6: order by team. A lot of quality players on there.
[2:04:35] Speaker 6: Other youths like Brewer, Monique Billings, shout out. Kayla Thornton
[2:04:40] Speaker 6: from the world champion New York Liberty getting over their way.
[2:04:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.
[2:04:44] Speaker 3: So, this is their team.
[2:04:47] Speaker 6: Timmy Fagbenle from the Fever.
[2:04:53] Speaker 4: What is their draft picks?
[2:04:57] Speaker 5: The first pick is at five.
[2:04:58] Speaker 3: First pick is at five.
[2:04:59] Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I don't know when they pick after that.
[2:05:02] Speaker 6: Yeah, so they got one spot open still. They did
[2:05:04] Speaker 6: not opt to select a player from the Seattle Storm.
[2:05:08] Speaker 6: I think Monique Bills was unrestricted free agent. That was
[2:05:11] Speaker 6: the one unrestricted free agent that they were able to take.
[2:05:14] Speaker 6: So of the 11 players selected, seven are international players.
[2:05:17] Speaker 6: And like I said, the Valkyries opted not to pick
[2:05:19] Speaker 6: a player from the Seattle Storm. Cade Martin also coming
[2:05:23] Speaker 6: with Natalie from the Aces.
[2:05:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:05:26] Speaker 4: Wait, they got to pick a player from every team?
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:05:31] Speaker 2: Why?
[2:05:32] Speaker 7: That's how the expansion draft works?
[2:05:33] Speaker 1: Expansion draft.
[2:05:34] Speaker 4: I thought you just put the motherfuckers in the bowl
[2:05:37] Speaker 4: and I get to pick who I want.
[2:05:38] Speaker 7: You get to pick who they can't, like, restrict.
[2:05:40] Speaker 5: But only one player per team.
[2:05:43] Speaker 1: So you can protect.
[2:05:45] Speaker 6: You pick six players you want to protect.
[2:05:46] Speaker 4: Then the rest of them go in. The rest of
[2:05:47] Speaker 4: them are eligible to be selected. Yeah, so if I
[2:05:49] Speaker 4: want two players from the same team.
[2:05:51] Speaker 5: I like that better, but that's not.
[2:05:53] Speaker 1: I'm just going to take six from your squad?
[2:05:56] Speaker 5: I like that better. Because to me... you then have
[2:06:00] Speaker 5: a better roster.
[2:06:01] Speaker 7: Yeah, I played on the 08 expansion team. I was
[2:06:04] Speaker 7: drafted to Atlanta. We won four games that year.
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:06:07] Speaker 5: Who won the championship? You shouldn't be able to do
[2:06:09] Speaker 5: it that way.
[2:06:11] Speaker 4: Liberty. Liberty. So that means Liberty's bench is all here.
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: There might be two players that's better than... Yeah, but
[2:06:20] Speaker 4: they're not.
[2:06:20] Speaker 7: Going to let you take their whole bench.
[2:06:21] Speaker 4: But you can only protect six.
[2:06:23] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:06:24] Speaker 4: You can only protect six. And everybody else going there.
[2:06:26] Speaker 1: And you can pick one from that additional.
[2:06:28] Speaker 4: No, I don't want one. Maybe I might want two.
[2:06:31] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[2:06:33] Speaker 5: If you do it the way you're saying, I agree
[2:06:36] Speaker 5: you have a better team. A more competitive team. But, nah,
[2:06:42] Speaker 5: they ain't doing that.
[2:06:43] Speaker 4: I got to pick somebody from every team.
[2:06:45] Speaker 6: As you both look at this roster with your extensive
[2:06:48] Speaker 6: WNBA knowledge, it's not going to be a good team.
[2:06:51] Speaker 1: It's just another team to beat on.
[2:06:52] Speaker 2: Ty, you said.
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: Four wins your first game.
[2:06:56] Speaker 7: 2008, we won four games in Atlanta.
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: First season with the Atlanta Dream in the league.
[2:07:02] Speaker 2: How many years have they had a win, 500-plus win season? Atlanta?
[2:07:07] Speaker 3: How long did it take you to turn around?
[2:07:08] Speaker 1: To turn it around.
[2:07:10] Speaker 7: They turned it around in 2009, but I was traded
[2:07:12] Speaker 7: to Chicago. So I wasn't there.
[2:07:14] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: But... Were you happy to get moved to Chicago?
[2:07:21] Speaker 7: I didn't want to be traded initially, no.
[2:07:25] Speaker 6: So they were 4-30 that first year, were 18-16 the
[2:07:28] Speaker 6: next year.
[2:07:28] Speaker 5: Damn, 4-30.
[2:07:31] Speaker 1: Made the playoffs, proceeded to make the playoffs the next.
[2:07:34] Speaker 7: But then, too, being a part of that team and
[2:07:36] Speaker 7: you have players... Now, you know... The players feel like
[2:07:39] Speaker 7: they got to prove themselves. So now it's hard to
[2:07:42] Speaker 7: get a cohesive team because everyone is trying to be
[2:07:44] Speaker 7: that person.
[2:07:45] Speaker 2: Yes.
[2:07:45] Speaker 7: And that's what we dealt with in 2008.
[2:07:48] Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be the star of the team.
[2:07:50] Speaker 1: Because it's wide open.
[2:07:51] Speaker 5: And you really got a bunch of role players. That's
[2:07:54] Speaker 5: what you have.
[2:07:55] Speaker 1: And you're coming in as a rookie with that squad, right?
[2:07:58] Speaker 5: You got a lot of role players on this team.
[2:08:02] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:08:02] Speaker 7: Nobody's going to give up there.
[2:08:04] Speaker 2: They've been waiting to get that spot.
[2:08:08] Speaker 5: To me, when I look at this roster, I think
[2:08:10] Speaker 5: Kayla Thornton's a great pickup for them, right? Who played
[2:08:13] Speaker 5: for the Liberty. I like Moe Billings. She plays hard.
[2:08:16] Speaker 5: She rebounds.
[2:08:18] Speaker 4: Um.
[2:08:19] Speaker 5: And I like Timmy Fagbenle. I was kind of surprised
[2:08:22] Speaker 5: Indiana didn't protect her.
[2:08:23] Speaker 7: Yeah, she was balling for Indiana.
[2:08:26] Speaker 1: One of Kaylin Clark's favorite players to dime up.
[2:08:29] Speaker 7: And she played defense.
[2:08:30] Speaker 5: What are you looking at, Gil?
[2:08:33] Speaker 3: That team is in.
[2:08:34] Speaker 4: San Francisco, right?
[2:08:35] Speaker 12: Uh-huh.
[2:08:37] Speaker 3: The Golden State. That's a big market, right?
[2:08:41] Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
[2:08:41] Speaker 1: Pretty big.
[2:08:45] Speaker 4: You couldn't figure out how to rig the draft to
[2:08:49] Speaker 4: give them the number one pick.
[2:08:52] Speaker 5: Just doesn't work that way with expansion.
[2:08:54] Speaker 6: It's the same in the league, too.
[2:08:56] Speaker 5: It just doesn't.
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: The expansion never gets the.
[2:08:58] Speaker 4: Number one pick. I read how I want to read.
[2:09:02] Speaker 2: Mix these little balls in.
[2:09:07] Speaker 1: Is that the face you're going to make? Don't make
[2:09:09] Speaker 1: that face.
[2:09:10] Speaker 2: That motherfucker can say whatever it want. Go to St.
[2:09:15] Speaker 4: Valkyrie. Got the number one pick.
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: Motherfuckers be like, does he have a store of money?
[2:09:21] Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up.
[2:09:23] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:09:23] Speaker 4: Because, I mean, you're trying to, you're trying to, you're trying.
[2:09:27] Speaker 3: To open up your viewership.
[2:09:29] Speaker 4: Yeah. So, in hindsight, you will want to have the
[2:09:34] Speaker 4: number one pick Buckner be there.
[2:09:37] Speaker 3: Page Beckwith. Staff, or Beckwith staff.
[2:09:39] Speaker 4: You have staff, you have, like, you, that's, you want
[2:09:42] Speaker 4: that there in that market to establish a name for,
[2:09:46] Speaker 4: For the team. This is not a market. You're not
[2:09:49] Speaker 4: in a market where you have a bunch of role play.
[2:09:52] Speaker 4: You can draft a face. Yeah, no doubt. And that
[2:09:55] Speaker 4: would have been the face of the team.
[2:09:56] Speaker 5: Because Paige Beckers would have been a great get for them.
[2:09:59] Speaker 1: Valkyrie's the fifth pick in the draft.
[2:10:01] Speaker 6: Obviously Dallas Williams got the number one pick, looking like
[2:10:03] Speaker 6: Paige gone.
[2:10:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, like how does that help the league, her going there?
[2:10:11] Speaker 3: That team's already good, right?
[2:10:12] Speaker 1: Is that just the price you pay, though, with the expansion, right?
[2:10:15] Speaker 5: They could use her.
[2:10:17] Speaker 3: But they can use her, but they already have a star.
[2:10:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
[2:10:20] Speaker 4: They already have a star. Like, this is a team
[2:10:22] Speaker 4: that's going to, like, you need a star. You need
[2:10:25] Speaker 4: a star in every big market.
[2:10:26] Speaker 5: Yeah, because when I look at this roster, to your point,
[2:10:28] Speaker 5: I'm like, who is the star on this team?
[2:10:31] Speaker 1: There ain't no star. It's a beat-up team.
[2:10:34] Speaker 5: But I will say this. Kate Martin, like, they're going
[2:10:39] Speaker 5: to love her. The fans are going to love Kate Martin.
[2:10:42] Speaker 1: They're, what, fourth in jersey sales this season?
[2:10:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:10:44] Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken.
[2:10:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:10:45] Speaker 7: She's not going to start either, though.
[2:10:47] Speaker 5: No, she's not.
[2:10:48] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[2:10:48] Speaker 5: She's not. They don't have a start.
[2:10:49] Speaker 4: He said she's not going to start.
[2:10:51] Speaker 2: No, I said she's not.
[2:10:52] Speaker 4: Going to start.
[2:10:53] Speaker 5: But from a fan-based perspective and, you know.
[2:10:57] Speaker 1: People are going to be like, oh, we love Kate Martin.
[2:10:59] Speaker 6: Is that just the expectation, though, with an expansion team?
[2:11:01] Speaker 6: We saw the same thing in the league. Those teams
[2:11:03] Speaker 6: didn't come in with the expectation of being dominant. It
[2:11:06] Speaker 6: took a couple seasons. Usually give it, you know, a two-
[2:11:08] Speaker 6: to three-season window. And like you mentioned with the Atlanta Dream,
[2:11:10] Speaker 6: 4-30 that first year end up next season, 18-16 in
[2:11:15] Speaker 6: the playoffs. So is it kind of like, yo, we're
[2:11:18] Speaker 6: going to take the L for a very brief period
[2:11:21] Speaker 6: of time while we allow this team to figure it out?
[2:11:24] Speaker 6: And then ideally, Gil, like you're saying, playing in a
[2:11:26] Speaker 6: big market like the Bay Area.
[2:11:30] Speaker 2: Wow.
[2:11:30] Speaker 4: I don't know why people think things are straight up. Yeah,
[2:11:33] Speaker 4: y'all moving wrong. Y'all out there really picking ping pong balls?
[2:11:37] Speaker 2: Really? Are there tradable pieces up there that you can
[2:11:42] Speaker 2: go get a quality store?
[2:11:43] Speaker 5: And they can do that.
[2:11:44] Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking. Tell it again.
[2:11:48] Speaker 2: Is it enough up there that you can say we
[2:11:50] Speaker 2: can go get someone to be the face?
[2:11:51] Speaker 4: No. Brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother.
[2:11:53] Speaker 3: Everybody just got rid of these motherfuckers.
[2:11:55] Speaker 4: Nobody want to trade for them. They're not going to
[2:11:57] Speaker 4: give up these cars.
[2:11:59] Speaker 1: This is the.
[2:11:59] Speaker 5: You probably would have to put like three players together.
[2:12:03] Speaker 2: Kayla, Kate, and Mo.
[2:12:07] Speaker 1: Huh?
[2:12:10] Speaker 7: But you.
[2:12:10] Speaker 1: For something.
[2:12:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you're going to get one player maybe.
[2:12:13] Speaker 2: Maybe. Let's say for that fifth pick, right? If Dallas
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: gets one, we try to get Enrique. And we give up.
[2:12:22] Speaker 7: Dallas not giving up Enrique.
[2:12:24] Speaker 1: They're going to get their number one pick, right?
[2:12:26] Speaker 5: Yeah, but they ain't giving up Enrique.
[2:12:27] Speaker 1: You want them together?
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: Paige and Enrique?
[2:12:29] Speaker 4: Oh, hell yes.
[2:12:31] Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
[2:12:32] Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
[2:12:34] Speaker 4: You don't need that right now. That's what I'm saying.
[2:12:37] Speaker 7: You don't need that right now.
[2:12:39] Speaker 2: To help the league, you put them on separate teams.
[2:12:42] Speaker 4: You don't need that. You do not need that type
[2:12:45] Speaker 4: of dominance.
[2:12:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, you can put them on separate teams, but you
[2:12:47] Speaker 5: could do that with a whole lot of players.
[2:12:48] Speaker 4: You already have.
[2:12:50] Speaker 5: Here's why Dallas needs Paige. Dallas doesn't have a point guard.
[2:12:53] Speaker 7: Cool.
[2:12:54] Speaker 2: But there's still a strong team with a superstar.
[2:12:57] Speaker 4: That is great. Listen, that is great. But I need
[2:13:03] Speaker 4: to establish this new market. I need something. I need
[2:13:07] Speaker 4: to establish this new market. I don't need.
[2:13:09] Speaker 5: When I saw the players that they selected from each team,
[2:13:15] Speaker 5: I was kind of like, who?
[2:13:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:13:19] Speaker 4: What? And that's what I'm trying to do. I was
[2:13:21] Speaker 4: looking at the same thing.
[2:13:22] Speaker 5: No, because there were other players that I was like,
[2:13:25] Speaker 5: they're going to take her and her and her. And
[2:13:27] Speaker 5: then I saw some. I was just like.
[2:13:28] Speaker 4: And that's what I said. You're going to package them
[2:13:30] Speaker 4: together for me to say, you want who?
[2:13:32] Speaker 2: Man, give me a replay. Give me a replay. Is
[2:13:35] Speaker 2: it Howard? What is it, Natasha?
[2:13:37] Speaker 5: She wants to play.
[2:13:38] Speaker 1: Natasha Howard, is that her name?
[2:13:41] Speaker 2: But when I look at shooters.
[2:13:43] Speaker 5: Natasha Howard?
[2:13:44] Speaker 1: She with Dallas, right? Dallas, Natasha. Natasha and Rike for
[2:13:48] Speaker 1: the fifth pick.
[2:13:50] Speaker 4: Hell no.
[2:13:51] Speaker 3: So you get the.
[2:13:53] Speaker 2: One and the fifth pick? You're getting Paige and you're
[2:13:56] Speaker 2: getting something else.
[2:13:57] Speaker 7: And she is unrestricted.
[2:14:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Natasha's a free agent.
[2:14:02] Speaker 4: Remember, they don't value draft picks like that.
[2:14:05] Speaker 2: If you got the fifth pick and it's the first,
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: you can get two good picks.
[2:14:08] Speaker 5: Well, if it's, like, the top five.
[2:14:10] Speaker 2: Top five.
[2:14:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a free agent.
[2:14:12] Speaker 4: Like, who's the top five? Who's top five?
[2:14:14] Speaker 6: She shared a farewell post after the season finale, so
[2:14:16] Speaker 6: I think.
[2:14:17] Speaker 4: I know, she did, right? She's like, I'm out. Thank you, Dallas.
[2:14:19] Speaker 5: It's been real. She already wants out of Dallas. Um,
[2:14:24] Speaker 5: I don't know. Number one, Paige, for sure.
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: Like, oh, wait, wait.
[2:14:28] Speaker 4: Who wants out?
[2:14:29] Speaker 2: Natasha Howard.
[2:14:30] Speaker 1: She's already a free agent.
[2:14:32] Speaker 3: Natasha Howard.
[2:14:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Big girl.
[2:14:34] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[2:14:36] Speaker 1: They give up some fifth.
[2:14:38] Speaker 3: No, they need to go.
[2:14:39] Speaker 1: I mean, it's Steph.
[2:14:40] Speaker 4: It's Steph. They need to go. You know what I'm saying?
[2:14:42] Speaker 4: They already have.
[2:14:43] Speaker 5: I don't know Odyssey status, but I was like, Odyssey
[2:14:46] Speaker 5: would be great for this team.
[2:14:47] Speaker 7: I don't know why she can't stick. I don't either.
[2:14:51] Speaker 5: She's a hell of a player. I don't know. It's
[2:14:53] Speaker 5: going to be interesting.
[2:14:55] Speaker 1: I'm not too optimistic about that.
[2:14:57] Speaker 4: They're doing backward bending. I know right now.
[2:15:01] Speaker 1: You see how quick she said no?
[2:15:02] Speaker 2: I'm like, what?
[2:15:03] Speaker 4: I'm calling the fever. Like, do you really like Kayla
[2:15:05] Speaker 4: like that?
[2:15:06] Speaker 7: I'm like, do you?
[2:15:07] Speaker 4: Like, really? Like that? Like that? Like that?
[2:15:10] Speaker 1: Like that?
[2:15:13] Speaker 4: We can give you some equity in our team. Whatever
[2:15:19] Speaker 4: you need to do to convince everybody why you're trading
[2:15:21] Speaker 4: her here. We got Steph. We got her.
[2:15:24] Speaker 2: I can put that on the billboard.
[2:15:25] Speaker 1: We got the female Steph.
[2:15:26] Speaker 7: Great marketing for me.
[2:15:28] Speaker 2: What?
[2:15:34] Speaker 4: Steve.
[2:15:34] Speaker 2: And have her and Steph in a picture together.
[2:15:37] Speaker 4: I don't even need their approval. Fuck with Golden State.
[2:15:41] Speaker 2: Man, we about to go do a photo shoot together.
[2:15:44] Speaker 1: Splash.
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: In the lake. We have her right here.
[2:15:47] Speaker 5: Carla Lake.
[2:15:47] Speaker 2: That's great. That would be nuts.
[2:15:49] Speaker 5: She didn't show up for Dallas. She's overseas still.
[2:15:51] Speaker 1: No, she didn't.
[2:15:53] Speaker 4: Yeah. Splashers.
[2:15:55] Speaker 1: Splashers.
[2:15:56] Speaker 5: Just looking at that roster, it's going to Like, I
[2:15:59] Speaker 5: think they'll compete, but it's going to be a long season.
[2:16:02] Speaker 4: It's like blowout vibes.
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: It'll be a long season.
[2:16:04] Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be a long season.
[2:16:07] Speaker 1: Well, Ty, we got you here.
[2:16:08] Speaker 6: You spent last season as assistant coach with the Chicago Sky. Obviously,
[2:16:11] Speaker 6: we know Angel Reese was an all-star in her rookie
[2:16:12] Speaker 6: year in the W. I said league record for rebounds
[2:16:15] Speaker 6: per game. I think second most rebounds ever. And I
[2:16:18] Speaker 6: had the rookie record for double-doubles as well. Sky finished
[2:16:21] Speaker 6: ninth in the league, missed the playoffs for the first
[2:16:22] Speaker 6: time since 2018, but you got to watch Angel's development
[2:16:25] Speaker 6: in her rookie season. What's the biggest thing Angel Reese
[2:16:28] Speaker 6: needs to work on to get ready for her second
[2:16:29] Speaker 6: year in the W?
[2:16:32] Speaker 5: Her footwork.
[2:16:35] Speaker 7: Angel is a dog, and she wants to be better,
[2:16:37] Speaker 7: and she puts work in. But having a player development
[2:16:44] Speaker 7: coach that will actually work with her with her footwork
[2:16:47] Speaker 7: and her finishes around the rim.
[2:16:51] Speaker 1: What do you think about Cardoza? Camila?
[2:16:57] Speaker 7: She just got to want it, you know? Like, she's
[2:17:01] Speaker 7: a very unselfish post player.
[2:17:03] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:17:03] Speaker 4: Pass first.
[2:17:04] Speaker 7: And she needs to be more selfish.
[2:17:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:17:07] Speaker 7: Get stronger. But she's a big presence. Get stronger and
[2:17:12] Speaker 7: work on being unselfish, finishing, going up, not looking to
[2:17:16] Speaker 7: pass it out.
[2:17:17] Speaker 3: That's that South Carolina.
[2:17:19] Speaker 2: Yeah. Why is everybody so surprised?
[2:17:22] Speaker 5: She's also, she's a rookie.
[2:17:24] Speaker 10: Yeah.
[2:17:24] Speaker 7: You know, like.
[2:17:25] Speaker 2: Nah.
[2:17:26] Speaker 4: No, no. South Carolina.
[2:17:28] Speaker 5: What about it?
[2:17:29] Speaker 4: You go to a school where everyone's five stars and
[2:17:33] Speaker 4: your job is we all share this pizza. So her
[2:17:38] Speaker 4: four years is basically we're winning chips and it's unselfish.
[2:17:41] Speaker 3: We're making plays.
[2:17:43] Speaker 4: It was there was never no you go you go
[2:17:45] Speaker 4: beat it's like no i'm gonna look for the night
[2:17:47] Speaker 4: yeah you know so it was she never had she
[2:17:50] Speaker 4: was never surrounded with players that told her like yokich.
[2:17:54] Speaker 7: Yeah depend on yeah it's definitely a different mentality.
[2:17:58] Speaker 4: Team or studied to the point where her greatness came
[2:18:03] Speaker 4: from team success and you know trying to convince her
[2:18:06] Speaker 4: It's okay to be selfish. That has to be told
[2:18:10] Speaker 4: to her every game. I need you to shoot.
[2:18:12] Speaker 7: Because my rookie and my coach told me, yeah, you
[2:18:14] Speaker 7: can use your teammates. You can pass a little more
[2:18:16] Speaker 7: because in college, I'm dominating.
[2:18:18] Speaker 9: You can use your.
[2:18:18] Speaker 4: Teammates a little more.
[2:18:20] Speaker 7: I see them out there.
[2:18:22] Speaker 5: When I say she's a rookie, I'm saying, yeah, she's big,
[2:18:26] Speaker 5: big body. She can dominate, but she also needs time
[2:18:29] Speaker 5: to develop. Like we're saying, give Bronny time to develop.
[2:18:33] Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's the question they ask.
[2:18:34] Speaker 4: She needs.
[2:18:35] Speaker 5: Yeah, she definitely needs time to develop. But I think
[2:18:38] Speaker 5: Camilla could be... Her and Angel together could be a
[2:18:41] Speaker 5: hell of a.
[2:18:42] Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely.
[2:18:43] Speaker 1: I mean, that's just.
[2:18:44] Speaker 7: And there's moments of that, too.
[2:18:46] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:18:46] Speaker 2: What about Kennedy? How much of an integral season was
[2:18:50] Speaker 2: this for her?
[2:18:52] Speaker 1: Kennedy's a hooper. Yeah, breaking down. Showing everybody that she's
[2:18:55] Speaker 1: a hooper.
[2:18:56] Speaker 7: I mean, she's been a hooper. It's more so about
[2:18:57] Speaker 7: Kennedy controlling, you know, her attitude.
[2:19:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:19:01] Speaker 7: She's a hooper. You can't guard her. We play teams
[2:19:04] Speaker 7: and they got four or five people.
[2:19:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:19:06] Speaker 7: How can we stop Kennedy?
[2:19:08] Speaker 1: Yes. We got to see that in Vegas.
[2:19:11] Speaker 2: So you think the attitude is holding her back? As
[2:19:13] Speaker 2: far as a hoop wise, though, like out there controlling
[2:19:17] Speaker 2: the game. I've seen her control the game a couple
[2:19:19] Speaker 2: of different times. It's like, yo, crazy. Like she should
[2:19:23] Speaker 2: be the one that. Kelsey and all of them are
[2:19:26] Speaker 2: afraid of shaking in their boots.
[2:19:29] Speaker 7: I'm telling you, there's four or five people trying to
[2:19:31] Speaker 7: stop her.
[2:19:32] Speaker 5: He's one of the best guards in the league.
[2:19:33] Speaker 4: You think it's just this year because of Kayla and Clark,
[2:19:36] Speaker 4: everybody gets to see her for who she is? her talent,
[2:19:40] Speaker 4: it just seems like nobody knew who she was before, like, worldwide.
[2:19:43] Speaker 4: Do you think that once the Caitlyn thing happened and
[2:19:46] Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, yeah, she's trash, she's just a dirty player,
[2:19:49] Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, no, she's a hooper-hooper. She got that
[2:19:52] Speaker 4: thing on her. And then it, like, puts her in
[2:19:55] Speaker 4: a different light. Like, okay, we respect you. You're actually nice.
[2:19:59] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah, because you didn't see that when she did
[2:20:02] Speaker 2: the hit. It was like you just seen her playing defense.
[2:20:05] Speaker 2: You just thought Draymond Green. Yeah, he was like, yeah,
[2:20:07] Speaker 2: she's just in there fouling. Damn.
[2:20:09] Speaker 4: Just hurting people. And then you're like, no, no, no,
[2:20:11] Speaker 4: we're going to watch this show. And then she's like 25, 30.
[2:20:13] Speaker 7: See, they didn't show the clip when Kennedy got hit first.
[2:20:16] Speaker 7: They just showed her reaction.
[2:20:18] Speaker 1: They just showed the reaction and what led to that.
[2:20:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
[2:20:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, we seen her in Vegas, though.
[2:20:23] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, she's the star.
[2:20:24] Speaker 2: Live and in person.
[2:20:25] Speaker 4: Woo-woo.
[2:20:26] Speaker 7: Woo-woo.
[2:20:29] Speaker 5: Kennedy is... to me, one of the top three guards
[2:20:32] Speaker 5: in this league.
[2:20:33] Speaker 7: Absolutely.
[2:20:35] Speaker 1: Easily. Her and Kelsey got that wiggle, got that.
[2:20:38] Speaker 7: Mitchell?
[2:20:38] Speaker 4: A problem.
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[2:20:40] Speaker 2: Got that cappy poindexter.
[2:20:42] Speaker 4: Mitchell is Mitchell from Fever, right?
[2:20:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:20:44] Speaker 4: Number zero? Yeah, zero. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:20:46] Speaker 2: She got that thing on her. She got that thing
[2:20:48] Speaker 2: on her.
[2:20:48] Speaker 6: Problem.
[2:20:48] Speaker 1: Problem. Yeah. All right, for sure.
[2:20:52] Speaker 6: But let's move on to Mostly Fans. presented by our
[2:20:55] Speaker 6: friends at Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL,
[2:20:57] Speaker 6: you get to $ 1, 000.
[2:20:57] Speaker 1: In bonus cash.
[2:20:59] Speaker 2: How much y'all?
[2:20:59] Speaker 6: Plus a special pick-em. About $ 3, 000, Gil. We multiplied just
[2:21:03] Speaker 6: because we felt like doing it.
[2:21:04] Speaker 4: $ 700, yeah.
[2:21:05] Speaker 5: And we're not.
[2:21:07] Speaker 4: Done yet.
[2:21:07] Speaker 1: Was it worth it, Gil? Did we learn anything?
[2:21:09] Speaker 5: And we're not done yet.
[2:21:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:21:11] Speaker 5: I think y'all should have to pay a couple because.
[2:21:14] Speaker 2: I paid.
[2:21:15] Speaker 1: No, I paid.
[2:21:15] Speaker 4: I paid. I paid. Mine is eight and four.
[2:21:18] Speaker 5: No, but today, though, you provoked it.
[2:21:20] Speaker 1: And, Chad, I still.
[2:21:20] Speaker 4: You provoked it.
[2:21:21] Speaker 2: I always put my disclaimers up. Right before, I tried
[2:21:25] Speaker 2: to say, Negro.
[2:21:26] Speaker 6: Chad, I still owe you $ 600. I will get that
[2:21:29] Speaker 6: to you once I get my next check.
[2:21:31] Speaker 5: Oh, I think I owe $ 100.
[2:21:32] Speaker 4: I think I owe $ 100. And you owe two?
[2:21:35] Speaker 5: I owe $ 100.
[2:21:36] Speaker 1: I said it in French.
[2:21:38] Speaker 7: And they caught it still.
[2:21:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick down.
[2:21:40] Speaker 5: I ain't got a check yet, so I can't pay y'all.
[2:21:45] Speaker 4: Go ahead.
[2:21:45] Speaker 1: Sure, but guess what? Guess what you do got?
[2:21:46] Speaker 4: Guess what you do got?
[2:21:48] Speaker 7: You don't need a check.
[2:21:49] Speaker 4: His baby steps over here.
[2:21:52] Speaker 2: Slow down.
[2:21:53] Speaker 7: Take your time.
[2:21:54] Speaker 2: You know how much we spent on that? His baby
[2:21:57] Speaker 2: steps over here.
[2:21:58] Speaker 1: And the stars don't wear.
[2:22:00] Speaker 2: And we got you smiling.
[2:22:03] Speaker 4: We got you.
[2:22:04] Speaker 7: I'm not just saying got that.
[2:22:06] Speaker 4: Smile about you. We don't got your Christmas sweater yet.
[2:22:08] Speaker 5: I'm on the opposite side of the couch.
[2:22:10] Speaker 4: Did they show her? Did they show her? Mm-hmm.
[2:22:14] Speaker 1: What?
[2:22:14] Speaker 4: Nothing.
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: Nothing. Nothing.
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[2:22:17] Speaker 2: What happened?
[2:22:20] Speaker 7: They ready for your sweater.
[2:22:22] Speaker 4: I'm going to just be honest with you.
[2:22:23] Speaker 2: You got Christmas sweaters and they ain't had one for you.
[2:22:25] Speaker 2: Somebody ain't had no Christmas sweater.
[2:22:28] Speaker 1: Somebody, for God's sake.
[2:22:30] Speaker 4: Produce over here like.
[2:22:31] Speaker 5: I'm not even going to look at it.
[2:22:32] Speaker 7: First they move you from the left side. I'm not
[2:22:34] Speaker 7: even going to look at it.
[2:22:35] Speaker 2: They ain't even got the sweater. This is a nicer area.
[2:22:37] Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't even part of the same family.
[2:22:39] Speaker 2: They already was like, we already did a little king
[2:22:40] Speaker 2: in this sweater. We already, hey, man, king is already bad.
[2:22:42] Speaker 7: I'm already on the same flight with me.
[2:22:44] Speaker 5: You already said I got cut.
[2:22:45] Speaker 1: So you ain't seen your sweater or nothing?
[2:22:47] Speaker 9: Nope.
[2:22:47] Speaker 4: Ooh, ooh.
[2:22:49] Speaker 6: So your sweater going to be the great king in
[2:22:50] Speaker 6: your sweater?
[2:22:52] Speaker 5: No sweater.
[2:22:53] Speaker 1: Trade me, trade me.
[2:22:54] Speaker 2: With two trees on it. It's a default.
[2:22:56] Speaker 1: That's a default.
[2:22:57] Speaker 4: That's a cheat. Two trees.
[2:22:58] Speaker 1: King, I'm like, oh, you give her two trees?
[2:22:59] Speaker 2: You gave me one tree?
[2:23:01] Speaker 5: Damn, see.
[2:23:02] Speaker 1: All right, let's move on.
[2:23:04] Speaker 5: Let's see now I know why he put me here
[2:23:09] Speaker 5: so my back will be turned and I couldn't look
[2:23:12] Speaker 5: at it so we.
[2:23:13] Speaker 6: Got one question today it's a video question from underdog
[2:23:17] Speaker 6: user big tone never wrong.
[2:23:20] Speaker 1: Hmm What up, Gills Arena?
[2:23:22] Speaker 9: Question I got for y'all today is, between Trey Young,
[2:23:25] Speaker 9: Zach Levine, and Jimmy Butler, which one of those three
[2:23:28] Speaker 9: players y'all think will get traded first? And the second
[2:23:30] Speaker 9: half of that question, what team right now can use
[2:23:33] Speaker 9: one of those players to put them over the hump?
[2:23:35] Speaker 1: Love the show.
[2:23:36] Speaker 4: Peace.
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: He watching the show on the ceiling? Jimmy Butler, Zach Levine,
[2:23:40] Speaker 1: and Trae Young.
[2:23:40] Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler, Zach Levine, and Trae Young.
[2:23:42] Speaker 4: What you doing when you watching the show.
[2:23:44] Speaker 1: Big time?
[2:23:45] Speaker 6: You got to be looking at the ceiling. I respect it, though.
[2:23:49] Speaker 6: Do what you got to do. So between Trae Levine,
[2:23:51] Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler, who will be traded first, and who could
[2:23:54] Speaker 6: use them to get over the hump?
[2:23:59] Speaker 4: I'll go with Zach Levine.
[2:24:03] Speaker 1: Where's he going, Gil?
[2:24:11] Speaker 3: Only because they've been trying to trade him.
[2:24:14] Speaker 2: They have.
[2:24:14] Speaker 1: It's been openly put out there. Give us Lonzo, too.
[2:24:17] Speaker 1: Fuck it.
[2:24:18] Speaker 4: It looks like Trey Young and the way the team
[2:24:21] Speaker 4: is moving, it seems like they're content. So if they're
[2:24:25] Speaker 4: going to make a trade, it'll probably be in the summer.
[2:24:28] Speaker 4: With Jimmy, he's only getting traded if they get back
[2:24:32] Speaker 4: a type of player that is used to Pat Riley
[2:24:36] Speaker 4: is used to.
[2:24:37] Speaker 5: But didn't Embiid want Jimmy Butler?
[2:24:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, but Pat Riley wanted Embiid and Maxie and Paul George.
[2:24:46] Speaker 6: The thing about Jimmy, though, Jimmy under-contracted this season but
[2:24:50] Speaker 6: has a player option this summer. So if a move
[2:24:53] Speaker 6: were to be made, it would likely have to be
[2:24:55] Speaker 6: done before the deadline.
[2:24:57] Speaker 1: If not, he can just dip.
[2:24:59] Speaker 2: This summer?
[2:25:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, he can just dip this summer if he wants to.
[2:25:02] Speaker 5: I actually like Zach to the Lakers.
[2:25:04] Speaker 1: Nah. Let me just get with this man. Sean, you
[2:25:06] Speaker 1: like that.
[2:25:06] Speaker 2: That ain't talking about nothing for real. He ain't talking
[2:25:08] Speaker 2: about nothing for real.
[2:25:09] Speaker 4: I do.
[2:25:09] Speaker 8: I like it.
[2:25:09] Speaker 5: I ain't saying it's going to happen.
[2:25:11] Speaker 4: How about they trade LeBron?
[2:25:12] Speaker 3: Get LeBron out of here and bring in Zach Levine.
[2:25:14] Speaker 1: That's not an equal trade.
[2:25:16] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, would you come back home?
[2:25:19] Speaker 1: I better. Would you come back home?
[2:25:20] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, would you come back home? We need
[2:25:21] Speaker 2: more than that.
[2:25:22] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, would you come back home, though? No,
[2:25:23] Speaker 1: I wouldn't come back home.
[2:25:24] Speaker 4: You ain't going to come back home?
[2:25:25] Speaker 2: No. Nothing? You ain't going to come back home?
[2:25:28] Speaker 4: Bron gone. Come back home.
[2:25:30] Speaker 2: Bron's just there.
[2:25:30] Speaker 4: That's the slogan.
[2:25:31] Speaker 2: Bron gone.
[2:25:32] Speaker 4: Come back home.
[2:25:33] Speaker 2: Bron's just there.
[2:25:34] Speaker 4: That's what we're going to say to all the old
[2:25:36] Speaker 4: Kobe fans. Bron gone. Come back home. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
[2:25:42] Speaker 2: He over there looking like, yeah.
[2:25:44] Speaker 1: I think Zach Levine... To the Warriors.
[2:25:49] Speaker 2: See, that's unnecessary. That's even worth it. That's even worth it.
[2:25:52] Speaker 2: I think Jimmy Butler to the Bucs. And I think
[2:25:59] Speaker 2: Trey Young to the Nuggets. For Jamal Murray, straight up.
[2:26:06] Speaker 1: You would do that? Absolutely, in a heartbeat.
[2:26:09] Speaker 3: If you're Trey and.
[2:26:10] Speaker 1: Joker both on the court together. That's a.
[2:26:14] Speaker 2: These are the only things that make sense with the
[2:26:16] Speaker 2: teams that are available. You ain't got to move around
[2:26:19] Speaker 2: too many crazy pieces. Middleton got to go. Jimmy Butler
[2:26:24] Speaker 2: for Middleton, straight up. You got Zach Levine, need to
[2:26:27] Speaker 2: go somewhere. Fast-paced team like the Warriors. He's a three-point shooter.
[2:26:31] Speaker 2: He can shoot.
[2:26:32] Speaker 1: He can dunk. He can run.
[2:26:33] Speaker 2: You ain't got to worry about Kaminga getting in the
[2:26:35] Speaker 2: way because he played it too.
[2:26:37] Speaker 1: They don't even make the same money. Kaminga might have
[2:26:40] Speaker 1: to be out the way.
[2:26:42] Speaker 4: Trae Young can't get beat.
[2:26:43] Speaker 5: That's a good one, though.
[2:26:44] Speaker 1: For who? Who did I say?
[2:26:47] Speaker 2: Murray.
[2:26:47] Speaker 1: Murray? You have to sweeten the pot.
[2:26:49] Speaker 3: You have to sweeten the pot.
[2:26:49] Speaker 2: What, we had to add somebody?
[2:26:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to add like Joker or something, so
[2:26:52] Speaker 4: that didn't work.
[2:26:53] Speaker 5: I just thought of Joker.
[2:26:56] Speaker 4: If I was the GM, I'd be talking to people
[2:26:58] Speaker 4: like this. You start looking at that like.
[2:27:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that money line up?
[2:27:02] Speaker 2: We'd be all day about line up.
[2:27:05] Speaker 4: I do like that. Back to the Warriors.
[2:27:09] Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler to Milwaukee head up is nice.
[2:27:12] Speaker 5: That's what I mean to either of those teams.
[2:27:17] Speaker 3: Do me a favor.
[2:27:18] Speaker 1: That's a three-headed monster. Jimmy Butler, Dame Lillard.
[2:27:21] Speaker 4: What the Lakers need?
[2:27:23] Speaker 2: The Exorcists. We need some palo santo.
[2:27:28] Speaker 1: We need some palo santo and some sage.
[2:27:31] Speaker 2: We need some palo santo. We need some palo santo
[2:27:36] Speaker 2: and some sage. We need some patchouli. I don't know
[2:27:43] Speaker 2: what the patchouli is. I don't know what the patchouli is.
[2:27:45] Speaker 2: And on that note... Oh, my God.
[2:27:48] Speaker 3: Oh, I got to give my mom money.
[2:27:50] Speaker 2: Before you do, girl, we.
[2:27:51] Speaker 1: Want to thank Ty for pulling up.
[2:27:52] Speaker 4: Yeah!
[2:27:54] Speaker 7: Thank y'all.
[2:27:55] Speaker 1: Not to poor every young church, I say you come
[2:27:57] Speaker 1: in here really silent.
[2:27:59] Speaker 4: Cheryl, as always.
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: Where the plugs at?
[2:28:01] Speaker 4: Make sure you plug, man. We got to get the.
[2:28:03] Speaker 2: Plugs out there.
[2:28:04] Speaker 6: We'll have the Cheryl photo available on gillsarenamerch.com in the
[2:28:07] Speaker 6: near future.
[2:28:08] Speaker 1: T-shirts, ready.
[2:28:08] Speaker 5: And my Christmas sweater?
[2:28:10] Speaker 1: We'll get that sweater right.
[2:28:12] Speaker 4: You just lied to her.
[2:28:13] Speaker 2: I don't even want to know. We can give you one.
[2:28:17] Speaker 2: You know what?
[2:28:17] Speaker 4: You can give one to Kenyon. I don't even want
[2:28:19] Speaker 4: to know. You and Kenyon can split the sweater.
[2:28:20] Speaker 5: I don't even want to know.
[2:28:21] Speaker 6: Yeah, you have bread to give out. The chat is
[2:28:24] Speaker 6: uber thirsty. Everybody's putting their cash out.
[2:28:26] Speaker 7: They are. All right.
[2:28:29] Speaker 4: The Phantom 32. Dino Beats.
[2:28:32] Speaker 7: Okay.
[2:28:35] Speaker 3: All right, $ 350 for you.
[2:28:35] Speaker 4: Dino Beats.
[2:28:36] Speaker 2: Dino Beats.
[2:28:37] Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.
[2:28:38] Speaker 6: The Phantom 32. I'm picking the other third of us.
[2:28:40] Speaker 6: T-H-E Phantom 32.
[2:28:41] Speaker 7: How many are we picking?
[2:28:42] Speaker 4: Just one? Dino Beats for $ 350.
[2:28:44] Speaker 5: One for $ 350.
[2:28:45] Speaker 1: Look how thirsty they get right now.
[2:28:48] Speaker 2: Let's go.
[2:28:48] Speaker 4: You look so sexy.
[2:28:49] Speaker 1: You!
[2:28:50] Speaker 5: You're going to get squashed. Every home game. I don't
[2:28:53] Speaker 5: know what that means. Let's do.
[2:28:59] Speaker 5: Oh, no, I remember you. You was talking shit to me,
[2:29:01] Speaker 5: so I'm.
[2:29:02] Speaker 1: Going to pick you. Good job.
[2:29:03] Speaker 2: Good memory.
[2:29:04] Speaker 1: You lost 350 being a hater, chat. You lost 350
[2:29:07] Speaker 1: being a hater.
[2:29:07] Speaker 4: You know, a whole bunch of you were like, no,
[2:29:10] Speaker 4: get back the phone, Gil. We've been talking shit all day.
[2:29:13] Speaker 4: I'm reading the comments.
[2:29:14] Speaker 5: I know, you're like, no, no, no, no.
[2:29:15] Speaker 4: The North remembers. Let's go.
[2:29:19] Speaker 5: I don't like your name.
[2:29:20] Speaker 1: Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. I
[2:29:25] Speaker 1: don't like your name.
[2:29:27] Speaker 4: Woo, woo.
[2:29:29] Speaker 1: It's a hard dating market out here.
[2:29:31] Speaker 2: I don't like your name.
[2:29:33] Speaker 1: Are you a Gilbert? Bartholomew. Who named you?
[2:29:36] Speaker 4: How am I supposed to say that? Gilbert?
[2:29:38] Speaker 5: I know you picked a dude. I'm trying to find
[2:29:40] Speaker 5: a female. Y'all can hear me.
[2:29:44] Speaker 2: I got six figures.
[2:29:46] Speaker 4: I got a full pack.
[2:29:47] Speaker 5: Let's go with.
[2:29:52] Speaker 5: Oh, somebody's name is.
[2:29:54] Speaker 2: What? If you don't.
[2:29:56] Speaker 4: Pick no goddamn money, I'm going to be like, God
[2:29:59] Speaker 4: damn it.
[2:29:59] Speaker 2: We don't even want the money no more.
[2:30:01] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[2:30:01] Speaker 5: Somebody's name is The Noose. You're definitely not getting picked.
[2:30:05] Speaker 4: Oh, my. Probably not. Okay, let's go with.
[2:30:10] Speaker 5: like Marcus. Marcus Taylor. Buckets 1994. And what did he say?
[2:30:12] Speaker 5: Buckets 1994.
[2:30:12] Speaker 4: That's a good name.
[2:30:13] Speaker 2: Buckets 1994.
[2:30:13] Speaker 3: Buckets 1994.
[2:30:14] Speaker 1: Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994.
[2:30:15] Speaker 4: Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994.
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[2:30:24] Speaker 4: Buckets 1994.
[2:30:24] Speaker 1: Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994.
[2:30:25] Speaker 2: Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994. Buckets 1994.
[2:30:26] Speaker 10: Buckets 1994.
[2:30:26] Speaker 2: Buckets I got you a jersey. What did he say?
[2:30:30] Speaker 4: He didn't say nothing.
[2:30:31] Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing. Bookmark that one.
[2:30:33] Speaker 2: Let's bookmark that one.
[2:30:34] Speaker 4: Hey, boo, can't wait till you get home.
[2:30:37] Speaker 2: Double tap. Double tap.
[2:30:40] Speaker 1: And on that note, this has been another episode of
[2:30:43] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:30:44] Speaker 2: We will see you all tomorrow.

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