# Luka's The KING of LA, LeBron & the Sixers look unfair! And The Arena's Perfect Hooper Part 1 An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 16 Sep 2026, 55 min. Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/895dfae1-64b0-4981-adea-b4b300f0d0f6/8179046d-3a00-48a7-95fc-b4c700e4703e/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=d110bf8d-fc65-45fb-856f-b4b300f0d117 Gilbert Arenas, Evan Turner, Iman Shumpert, Brendan Haywood, and Josiah Johnson bring you the best NBA show on the planet! This episode Evan Turner gets introduced to the couch, Iman Shumpert gives a soft apology to Tracy McGrady, the couch goes off on Kevin Durant's opinion on MVPs versus championships, they argue over why star players receive more blame than anyone else on the season is unsuccessful, and they talk the off-season moves of the Los Angeles Lakers and give their expectations of the season Presented by Polymarket - the world's largest prediction market. Use code ARENA when you sign up for a $50 bonus with a qualifying deposit of $10. https://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/ARENA 18+ Only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Trading is risky. 100% loss can occur. See http://polymarket.com/tos for more information. The Polymarket US App serves as an independent software provider and affiliate of Polymarket US and Polymarket Clearing, the CFTC-regulated exchange and clearing organization. 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[2:24] Speaker 1: I'm your host, Josiah Johnson, and I'm here with NBA [2:28] Speaker 1: and 2K legend Gilbert Arenas. [2:31] Speaker 3: Listen, you're a 2K legend, Gil. [2:34] Speaker 2: Of the world. Can't be a champion. I can be [2:37] Speaker 2: a legend. 2K, do what you do. [2:40] Speaker 1: And joining us on the couch, we got NBA champion [2:42] Speaker 1: of the world. And when he's not here, you can [2:44] Speaker 1: catch him on his Shump Street podcast. Give it up [2:46] Speaker 1: for Iman Shumpert. [2:47] Speaker 2: Let's go, baby. [2:48] Speaker 4: We in. [2:51] Speaker 2: The building, baby. [2:53] Speaker 1: We're also joined by NBA champion of the world and [2:55] Speaker 1: purveyor of Tallest Tales. [2:58] Speaker 2: Big guy stuff. The Tallest Tales, what, YouTube network? Yeah, [3:02] Speaker 2: at Tallest Tales Network. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, indeed. All right. [3:04] Speaker 2: I had to make sure to get it right there. Hey, man, [3:06] Speaker 2: get it right. Brendan Haywood, back in the building. Let's go. [3:12] Speaker 2: He would. Yeah. [3:16] Speaker 1: And you already know we did a big last show, [3:17] Speaker 1: but we got a special guest making his first appearance [3:20] Speaker 1: in the arena as a member of our cast. [3:24] Speaker 2: Oh, y'all thought we was done. That yesterday was it? [3:26] Speaker 2: Never that. [3:27] Speaker 5: We got more legends joining the Gills Arena crew for [3:30] Speaker 5: season five. The 2010 National College Player of the Year. [3:35] Speaker 5: That means he was flying everybody. And now he's ready [3:38] Speaker 5: to cook for Gills Arena all season long. From the [3:42] Speaker 5: Ohio State University, Evan Turner. [3:56] Speaker 2: Uh-oh, you're in the building. There you go. Make sure [3:58] Speaker 2: you duck. There you go. Hey. Make sure you duck. Oh, boy. [4:02] Speaker 2: What's up, my guy? There you go. Welcome to Gills Arena. [4:05] Speaker 2: Hold on. Before you do, let's get these lights right. [4:09] Speaker 2: We want to make sure everybody can see. I didn't [4:10] Speaker 2: see yours yesterday. [4:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I had you cutting the ribbon in the dark. [4:14] Speaker 2: Cut your ribbon. Cut your ribbon, man. Take a seat. [4:19] Speaker 3: Uh-oh. [4:20] Speaker 2: Uh-oh. He never opened up a shot. There we go. [4:23] Speaker 2: There we go. [4:25] Speaker 6: My boy got to open up his own barbershop. He [4:27] Speaker 6: got to know how to cut the ribbon. You got [4:29] Speaker 6: to cut the ribbon if you're going to open up [4:30] Speaker 6: a barbershop, dog. [4:31] Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? What's up, A? Former middle school teammates here. Oh, yeah, yeah. [4:38] Speaker 2: This is the real bro. Brooks Middle School. What? Was [4:41] Speaker 2: it 17 Middle School? Oh, yeah. It was an ass-whooping [4:44] Speaker 2: waiting to happen. Oh, I didn't know that. He's a [4:45] Speaker 2: point guard. [4:45] Speaker 3: He's a shooting guard. [4:47] Speaker 2: Where is this at? [4:48] Speaker 3: Gwendolyn Brooks, Chicago. Like right outside. [4:50] Speaker 6: But we was the first Emerson got turned into Gwendolyn Brooks. [4:54] Speaker 2: All right. [4:55] Speaker 6: They had changed it to a black lady name. That's [4:57] Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. I didn't understand that when we [4:59] Speaker 6: was younger. I wanted to be Emerson. Our jersey said Emerson, but. [5:05] Speaker 2: We ended up being Grendlin Brooks. They didn't pay for [5:07] Speaker 2: new jerseys? [5:08] Speaker 6: No, we got them after a while, but my first [5:10] Speaker 6: jersey was Emerson, so I'm like, we go to Emerson, [5:13] Speaker 6: but then I found out it's a black lady name. [5:15] Speaker 2: Okay. All right, for sure. [5:18] Speaker 1: Evan, welcome to the arena. Obviously, you've been on as [5:20] Speaker 1: a guest before, but now we got you on the couch. [5:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's dope, man. I'm super excited. [5:26] Speaker 7: Glad to see the revamp, so I'm glad to be here. [5:29] Speaker 7: But looking forward to just chopping up and getting some [5:31] Speaker 7: good combos. So it's going to be lit, bro. [5:33] Speaker 3: It's going to be lit. [5:34] Speaker 2: Most definitely. [5:34] Speaker 1: So before we start the show, I just want to [5:36] Speaker 1: say thank you to all the fans who pulled up [5:38] Speaker 1: for the Season 5 premiere on Monday. It was our [5:41] Speaker 1: most viewed live show since March 2025. I'm going to [5:44] Speaker 1: let you guess. What was the most viewed show? [5:47] Speaker 2: March 2025? March 2025. What happened to that? Cap. [5:53] Speaker 4: Because I was part of March last year, and I [5:56] Speaker 4: know it wasn't popping down. [5:58] Speaker 2: No cap, good. We had our most viewed episode. [6:01] Speaker 4: Oh, the most viewed is when I bodied Cemetery Larry. [6:04] Speaker 4: When I put the grave on him, when I put [6:06] Speaker 4: the dirt on him. [6:06] Speaker 1: It was not. When I put the dirt on him. Good, [6:09] Speaker 1: we had Stephen A. Smith in the building March 2025. [6:11] Speaker 1: That was 2024. That was 2025, the year our Lord. [6:16] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. [6:17] Speaker 3: Why'd he carry the one, though? You see him carry [6:19] Speaker 3: the one? [6:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to, I'm thinking, yeah, we... [6:24] Speaker 2: It's been a long time, dude. It's been a long time. [6:26] Speaker 6: He's doing that math like Beautiful Mind, and he's just [6:29] Speaker 6: putting it all together. [6:30] Speaker 2: I buried him. [6:32] Speaker 1: That was 2025, too, right? But I appreciate you, the fans. [6:34] Speaker 1: Our most viewed live episode since March 2025. We appreciate [6:38] Speaker 1: y'all rocking with us and continue to rock with the movement. [6:41] Speaker 2: So you're basically saying all of season four. [6:45] Speaker 4: they wasn't shit. Y'all wasn't shit. It's basically what you [6:49] Speaker 4: were trying to say. First episode beat all of. [6:52] Speaker 2: It's the Godfather 3 of Gil's Arena, Gil. I'm just saying, so... [6:54] Speaker 2: The Godfather 3 of Gil's Arena. [6:56] Speaker 4: So when they said, Gil's Arena crew, Gil's Arena crew, [6:59] Speaker 4: we about to take over, that whole year, they just. [7:02] Speaker 2: Hey, Sean, why you trying to put us in there? [7:04] Speaker 3: Why is he trying to put us in there? [7:06] Speaker 2: No, we wasn't in it. I'm a pacifist. We wasn't [7:12] Speaker 2: here either. I was here, but not mentally. We was here, [7:16] Speaker 2: but we wasn't here. Even the chat was like, yeah, [7:19] Speaker 2: you know what? We ain't here either. [7:21] Speaker 1: Trash. We got a lot of things to get into. [7:25] Speaker 1: Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Lakers are [7:29] Speaker 1: officially the L.A. [7:30] Speaker 2: Lucas. you clapping for? I'm a Laker fan. [7:38] Speaker 1: The Lakers are officially LA Lakers with the departure of [7:41] Speaker 1: King James, but does Sylvainian Jesus have a championship caliber [7:44] Speaker 1: supported cast around him? And speaking of the King, LeBron [7:48] Speaker 1: took his talents to Philly for year 24 to form [7:51] Speaker 1: a big four with Tyrese Maxey and beat and Jalen [7:53] Speaker 1: Brown are the six of the team to beat in [7:55] Speaker 1: the East. And if you could build the perfect basketball player, [7:59] Speaker 1: which player would fit that mold? We got a lot [8:05] Speaker 1: to discuss today. [8:06] Speaker 2: But all right, hold up. [8:06] Speaker 1: Before we start the show, we got to talk about something, Gil. [8:09] Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. But did you know these [8:11] Speaker 1: sportsbooks is out here doing you dirty? 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[9:35] Speaker 2: I got a lot. [9:35] Speaker 6: Today you was excited about it. Yeah, I got a lot. [9:38] Speaker 6: Just a little bit. You had personality today. [9:43] Speaker 2: Pauly. Pauly. [9:44] Speaker 3: Pauly. [9:45] Speaker 2: Pauly. [9:45] Speaker 1: Just want to point out Patrick Mahomes, two past CDs yesterday. [9:48] Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Told you he was going. [9:50] Speaker 2: You got it. [9:50] Speaker 6: I was wrong. [9:50] Speaker 2: I took the under. I was wrong. I was wrong. [9:53] Speaker 2: I was wrong. I owe Nick 200, too. I owe [9:57] Speaker 2: Nick 100. How many he had? Well, he had two [9:58] Speaker 2: pass CDs, so. Oh. Yeah. He needed at least two [10:01] Speaker 2: pass CDs. He got it. [10:01] Speaker 6: That second one was kind of a fake, though, man. [10:03] Speaker 6: It was the little fake shovel to Ken Walker, but, [10:05] Speaker 6: you know, it is. [10:06] Speaker 2: What it is. Shout out to Ken Walker, too. Ken Walker. [10:08] Speaker 2: We can't argue with facts again. There we go. I [10:11] Speaker 2: ain't starting with you. Yeah, we're not doing that. We're [10:13] Speaker 2: going to start. [10:15] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena is everywhere you want to be, so shout [10:16] Speaker 1: out to everybody watching the show on Twitch. If you're [10:19] Speaker 1: watching on Twitch, make sure you follow our channel at [10:21] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena Show and appreciate y'all for all the subs. [10:25] Speaker 1: So before we get into our show today, we got [10:27] Speaker 1: to go back to yesterday and address something that went [10:29] Speaker 1: down on the show. We had a spirited discussion about [10:32] Speaker 1: T-Mac saying the MVP holds more weight than a chip [10:37] Speaker 1: on his cousin's show with Vince Carter. So what I [10:40] Speaker 1: didn't mention was that T-Mac was giving his thoughts on [10:43] Speaker 1: comments that KD had made about the subject on Fred [10:46] Speaker 1: VanVleet's unguarded podcast. [10:48] Speaker 2: Podcast. [10:48] Speaker 1: Nonetheless, T-Mac agreed with those comments, Shump. How you feel [10:52] Speaker 1: about that? [10:53] Speaker 6: I'm going to give a soft apology to T-Mac because [10:57] Speaker 6: I didn't know you got lobbed into that. I definitely [11:00] Speaker 6: didn't know he got lobbed into it. I thought he [11:02] Speaker 6: just said it, which broke my heart. But you broke [11:05] Speaker 6: my little kid heart. You know what I'm saying? That's [11:08] Speaker 6: why it was so... You remember, I played in T-Mac. [11:12] Speaker 2: He was there. I had the max. I used to [11:14] Speaker 2: write sayings on him. Anyway. [11:16] Speaker 3: The fat daddies. [11:25] Speaker 6: But KD actually said this and it's wild because KD [11:31] Speaker 6: has every trophy he got every one of them and [11:35] Speaker 6: it's like bro that still bothers me to hear that [11:40] Speaker 6: now coming from K it's like K you the reason [11:43] Speaker 6: I missed out on two rings dog. [11:47] Speaker 2: It was your fault. [11:48] Speaker 6: Why you wouldn't join some niggas that didn't need you? [11:51] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? [11:51] Speaker 6: They didn't need you. But you did that to win. [11:54] Speaker 6: So I just don't understand how winning drops. [11:59] Speaker 7: Because probably when he won that championship or whatever, and [12:02] Speaker 7: he had three of the top 20 players in the league, [12:05] Speaker 7: probably three of the top 30. So his championship didn't [12:08] Speaker 7: feel as good. Not that he walked straight to it. [12:10] Speaker 7: What'd they go, 16-1? After they won that first chip, [12:13] Speaker 7: we damn near had to give back TV money. You [12:16] Speaker 7: know what I mean? You know what I mean? Not [12:19] Speaker 7: against y'all, but I'm saying it was an unbelievable team. [12:21] Speaker 7: And pause, it was loaded. But when we sit there, [12:24] Speaker 7: I can see him saying, man, averaging 31, 8, and [12:27] Speaker 7: 5 back in the old NBA might have been tougher [12:30] Speaker 7: than playing with Steph, Klay. [12:32] Speaker 6: Oh, he was supposed to win that year. Steph sent [12:35] Speaker 6: them home. They sent you home. You was up 3-1. [12:37] Speaker 6: You was supposed to win. You dipped on your mans, [12:40] Speaker 6: went over there with– For whatever reasons you did it, [12:44] Speaker 6: it's like you went over there to win. [12:47] Speaker 2: Because winning was number one. That's what bothers me. [12:50] Speaker 6: It's like you did that and shunned Joe career as [12:54] Speaker 6: far as how people looked at KD. [12:56] Speaker 2: People only have. [12:57] Speaker 6: Negative things to say at this point in time because [12:59] Speaker 6: you joined somebody that sent you home. [13:03] Speaker 7: You also got to look at coming from the horse's [13:05] Speaker 7: mouth too because You sit there to KD, he's always [13:08] Speaker 7: been a bucket getter and a hooper. To him, not [13:10] Speaker 7: saying winning don't matter, but maybe winning never matter more [13:14] Speaker 7: than just buckets to him, and that's just him. [13:16] Speaker 2: That's probably why he can get a bucket like that. No, [13:18] Speaker 2: he can go get a bucket. [13:19] Speaker 3: No, he can get a bucket. [13:21] Speaker 2: He can get you a bucket. [13:23] Speaker 7: Your ass, he leaks and be like, hey, bro, just [13:25] Speaker 7: because he got three rings, can he go 40 points [13:28] Speaker 7: that night on 75% shooting and not break a sweat? [13:33] Speaker 7: To him, I think he's speaking from a savant type [13:35] Speaker 7: of way. And that 82 games to climb uphill, go [13:39] Speaker 7: up against a system, a league, and even the fatigue [13:41] Speaker 7: of going downhill on that journey as opposed to just [13:44] Speaker 7: doing literally three weeks worth of work. No disrespect, it [13:49] Speaker 7: was unwatchable TV. I don't believe he really even thought [13:53] Speaker 7: it was a tough battle once he signed over. [13:55] Speaker 6: But life's also about your perspectives and your point of view. [13:58] Speaker 6: And for somebody like Kevin Durant, what it sounds like, [14:01] Speaker 6: and I'm not speaking for him, I don't know him, [14:02] Speaker 6: but what it sounds like is he won that championship [14:06] Speaker 6: and he thought he was going to be fulfilled, and [14:08] Speaker 6: he got to the top, and he was like, this [14:10] Speaker 6: ain't what. [14:11] Speaker 2: I thought it was. What? [14:12] Speaker 6: That's what it sound like. That's what it sound like, Shump. Shump, [14:16] Speaker 6: I'm not telling you that's what I feel. Okay. [14:18] Speaker 2: Calm down. Tell me how you feel. Calm down. [14:20] Speaker 6: Tell me how you feel, B-Wood. Because I know you [14:22] Speaker 6: don't respect that. Well, I'm not going to say I [14:24] Speaker 6: don't respect it. You're being nice today. [14:26] Speaker 2: Because I'm like Evan. I'm politically correct. You know what [14:29] Speaker 2: I'm saying? [14:30] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, it seems like when you listen to [14:32] Speaker 6: KD talk about basketball. [14:34] Speaker 2: When he won that championship, He's appreciative. [14:37] Speaker 6: But it wasn't what he thought it was going to be. [14:40] Speaker 6: That's why Braun went back to Cleveland. Because it wasn't [14:43] Speaker 6: as sweet until you went and got it out the [14:45] Speaker 6: mud and you. [14:47] Speaker 2: Was agent number one. I'm just saying. [14:49] Speaker 6: You got to be the most wanted tag. [14:53] Speaker 2: Go get the most wanted tag. I agree with you. [14:56] Speaker 2: And stay alive. I'm just saying that's what it seems like. [14:59] Speaker 6: Braun will tell you right now that Cleveland's championship was [15:02] Speaker 6: far more sweeter than the rest of them. [15:05] Speaker 2: And that's the problem. What? That's the problem. Why? Let's [15:10] Speaker 2: do it. Why? Imagine being KD. And you didn't get [15:13] Speaker 2: to win with OKC. You have two, three, four scoring [15:16] Speaker 2: titles already. An MVP. Right? And you're a free agent. [15:21] Speaker 2: You have everything. You're already a Hall of Famer. First ballot. Yeah. [15:24] Speaker 2: During a free agency. Yeah. [15:26] Speaker 4: And people talk about championships is what you need to [15:29] Speaker 4: get over the hump. [15:30] Speaker 2: To be put with the elites. [15:32] Speaker 6: Yeah. [15:32] Speaker 4: You go win it. You was the best player on [15:35] Speaker 4: the team. You wanted finals MVP. Back-to-back years. And nobody [15:42] Speaker 4: gave you no respect. Meaning the championship don't mean shit because. [15:47] Speaker 2: I just got two. It don't mean shit. You talk [15:50] Speaker 2: shit about it. Listen though. No, think about what I'm saying. [15:52] Speaker 4: Is it the championship matters or do how I win [15:56] Speaker 4: it matters? [15:56] Speaker 6: It don't matter, Neil. Then why would I win two [16:00] Speaker 6: of them? Because you got to win them against him. [16:04] Speaker 4: Beat the light-skinned man. [16:08] Speaker 2: Beat him. [16:10] Speaker 6: Beat the light-skinned man. [16:11] Speaker 2: He's right there. He got the trophy. Go rob him. [16:15] Speaker 2: So it ain't the ring. Yes, it is. It's the story, though. Okay, [16:19] Speaker 2: now it's the story. [16:19] Speaker 4: Now you're adding shit to it. Is it the ring [16:22] Speaker 4: or is it how I got the ring? Because I [16:23] Speaker 4: didn't need to beat the light-skinned nigga because the light-skinned [16:26] Speaker 4: nigga didn't hold it. [16:27] Speaker 2: No, the king is the one who had it. Y'all [16:31] Speaker 2: had that ring. The light-skinned nigga sent him home. You [16:35] Speaker 2: sent him home. Yeah. They called me. [16:37] Speaker 4: I came as the Avenger, and I sent the King home. [16:41] Speaker 4: Two years in a row. [16:42] Speaker 2: Listen, though. The King, you was going to have to [16:44] Speaker 2: deal with next round. What I'm saying? [16:48] Speaker 6: If you want your crown, deal with the king after [16:52] Speaker 6: you deal with the light-skinned nigga. [16:53] Speaker 4: But the light-skinned nigga called me. The light-skinned nigga got. [16:55] Speaker 2: Jury, too. But he called me. He came with the [16:58] Speaker 2: jury prior. He came with a private jet to my vacation. [17:02] Speaker 3: Hey, Gil. [17:04] Speaker 6: But you got to understand, all championships aren't seen as equal. [17:07] Speaker 2: Ah, there we go. [17:08] Speaker 3: They're not. [17:09] Speaker 2: So say it again. All championships are not equal. [17:14] Speaker 4: And that's what These players are finding out in real time. [17:18] Speaker 2: Hey, listen up. [17:19] Speaker 6: The fact that KD had to go find that out [17:21] Speaker 6: is a wild concept. [17:22] Speaker 2: No, no, because Kobe had to find it out early. When? [17:26] Speaker 6: When? [17:26] Speaker 2: Who Kobe go join? We was in the NBA. [17:28] Speaker 3: Who Kobe go join? [17:29] Speaker 2: Oh, shut up, shut up, shut up. We was in [17:31] Speaker 2: the NBA when it happened. [17:33] Speaker 6: Kobe had to go find his way because he was [17:35] Speaker 6: not getting respect. [17:36] Speaker 2: Hold on, shut up. [17:37] Speaker 3: Let me land a plane first, boss. Let me land [17:40] Speaker 3: a plane. [17:41] Speaker 6: Before you got into the league, when he was winning [17:43] Speaker 6: those rings with Shaq, They were looking at Kobe like [17:46] Speaker 6: he was little buddy and Shaq. [17:48] Speaker 2: Was carrying him. We were there. Exactly. [17:50] Speaker 6: But he wanted to go out and win it on [17:52] Speaker 6: his own. The rings that he won after Shaq are [17:56] Speaker 6: validated differently as far as how we look at Kobe. [17:59] Speaker 6: You're proving my point. [18:00] Speaker 3: I'm really not. [18:01] Speaker 2: I'm really not. No, no. You're proving Katie's point. You're proving.... [18:09] Speaker 3: I said our championships weren't equal. [18:10] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. [18:12] Speaker 4: Because every championship is not equal. But the problem is [18:17] Speaker 4: that is you're not giving us the blueprint of telling [18:20] Speaker 4: us they're not equal. You're saying be a champion. You're [18:24] Speaker 4: not saying, okay, now I got to be a champion [18:26] Speaker 4: like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Jordan. I got to [18:30] Speaker 4: stay home and win it. You're not saying that. You're [18:33] Speaker 4: just saying championships. [18:34] Speaker 2: But listen up. you want to get a max deal. [18:37] Speaker 6: They told you to win it in OKC. [18:40] Speaker 2: You was MVP. [18:42] Speaker 6: All the shit that you talk about that you saying [18:44] Speaker 6: this is what felt better. [18:46] Speaker 2: It felt better because you was over there. Win it [18:49] Speaker 2: over there. Yeah, but... Shay didn't have a problem. But [18:52] Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Shay didn't have a problem. What [18:53] Speaker 2: I'm saying is you're putting rules. [18:54] Speaker 3: Shay didn't have a problem. [18:55] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. [18:56] Speaker 6: That's why we respect his ring more. [18:59] Speaker 2: That's why. Then the ring don't matter then. [19:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, the ring does matter. What the fuck you do? [19:03] Speaker 2: Ring matters. [19:05] Speaker 4: You're proving all these people's point. You're proving the point [19:09] Speaker 4: to why Kobe's five rings don't matter. So he's like, [19:12] Speaker 4: I got five. When did Kobe's five rings don't matter? [19:15] Speaker 2: Well, you only got. [19:16] Speaker 6: When does Kobe's rings not matter? This is wild behavior. [19:21] Speaker 6: I can't believe this. He wasn't in the NBA. No, [19:24] Speaker 6: I was in my seat as a fan watching it, [19:26] Speaker 6: which means I didn't. [19:27] Speaker 2: Miss a beat. [19:28] Speaker 6: Kobe got traded from Charlotte, went to L.A., and sat. [19:32] Speaker 2: There and won. [19:34] Speaker 3: Five times. [19:35] Speaker 4: Imagine being in a locker room and there's a discussion [19:39] Speaker 4: about Who was better between T-Mac and Kobe? [19:42] Speaker 6: That's a dumb conversation. Kobe got five rings. I'm letting [19:45] Speaker 6: you know, for y'all having that conversation in the. [19:47] Speaker 3: Locker room, and nobody showed up. [19:49] Speaker 2: Those were real combos that were had. While Kobe had. [19:53] Speaker 6: Three rings, while Kobe had three rings. [19:55] Speaker 2: How is that relevant? [19:56] Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that it really happened. But I'm saying, [19:59] Speaker 6: how is it? I'm saying, why was y'all having that conversation? [20:01] Speaker 6: That's a female conversation. Whoa, whoa, there ain't got to [20:03] Speaker 6: be a female conversation. The reason why guys were having [20:05] Speaker 6: that conversation was because of what he's saying. When you're [20:09] Speaker 6: there saying the same way TMAC is saying he could [20:11] Speaker 6: have won if he was there. There were people that [20:13] Speaker 6: were saying, oh, Kobe is only winning because he's under [20:16] Speaker 6: Shaq's umbrella. That's why when you ask Kobe, what did [20:20] Speaker 6: this first championship after Shaq mean? He talked about it [20:23] Speaker 6: with one more than Shaq proving that I'm not that [20:26] Speaker 6: he that that next championship stamped him. That's that's what [20:30] Speaker 6: got him out that shadow. So when you ask why [20:33] Speaker 6: were people comparing them, because at times, when you win [20:37] Speaker 6: a championship, as seen as the number two option, they [20:40] Speaker 6: think other people can sit in your seat and win [20:42] Speaker 6: just like you. That is why the T-Mac-Kobe conversation was [20:46] Speaker 6: being had, even though T-Mac didn't have the lead at [20:49] Speaker 6: that time. I've been told plenty of times, hey, you [20:53] Speaker 6: got carried in the finals. Why they didn't come trade [20:56] Speaker 6: for y'all, niggas? [20:58] Speaker 1: Yeah. [20:58] Speaker 2: Why they ain't come get y'all? I was chilling in [21:01] Speaker 2: New York. [21:01] Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold you. I was having a good time. [21:03] Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the combos happened. [21:05] Speaker 6: I was having a great time. Me and Mello was [21:07] Speaker 6: hanging out. Me and Swish was hanging out. Hey, listen. [21:10] Speaker 2: It was sweet. Now think about it. But they came, [21:13] Speaker 2: got us. Why they didn't come get y'all? We have [21:15] Speaker 2: to go to Cleveland now. That's what I'm saying, though. [21:17] Speaker 6: But I'm saying they could have went and grabbed anybody. [21:20] Speaker 6: I'm saying when people give me that excuse of, well, [21:23] Speaker 6: you got carried by LeBron. [21:25] Speaker 2: You think I. [21:25] Speaker 3: Wanted LeBron to tell you right now? [21:28] Speaker 6: Don't even trip on that. Role players are supposed to [21:31] Speaker 6: get carried by stars. [21:32] Speaker 2: That's the game. [21:34] Speaker 6: I'm saying people will throw that at you. The stars [21:37] Speaker 6: do the heavy lifting to make. [21:39] Speaker 3: Role players' job easier. [21:41] Speaker 4: But that's what Kobe was sitting with. You got to remember, [21:44] Speaker 4: this is what people now don't know that I was [21:52] Speaker 4: living in real time. It's a hometown. So I'm looking [21:56] Speaker 4: three rings. Remember, he's the next guard, shooting guard, to [22:00] Speaker 4: do triple. So everybody's talking about he is the next Jordan. [22:06] Speaker 4: They don't want to tell you what they did. [22:08] Speaker 2: Who? Jordan comes back. You think Jordan want to hear [22:11] Speaker 2: that bullshit? He's me? How is he me? He ain't [22:15] Speaker 2: in the moving option. He ain't no finals MVP. How [22:17] Speaker 2: does that count? That was the narrative. [22:19] Speaker 4: The same narrative that's fucking with LeBron's legacy is the [22:23] Speaker 4: same one who did Kobe's legacy. Not even sure why [22:28] Speaker 4: Kobe and LeBron fans are going at each other. [22:31] Speaker 2: Jordan's media is who killed off both of y'all. Killed [22:35] Speaker 2: off who? Killed off both. Your second option champion That [22:42] Speaker 2: don't count. [22:43] Speaker 4: So you really only have two gold rings and three silvers. LeBron, [22:48] Speaker 4: yours don't count because you left. You're not supposed to leave. [22:51] Speaker 2: That's not what... They started that bullshit. [22:54] Speaker 4: So that's why when we're judging people and I say, [22:58] Speaker 4: all rings don't matter, they look at me stupid, to [23:00] Speaker 4: then hear, hey. [23:02] Speaker 2: Well, you didn't win it at your hometown. You won [23:04] Speaker 2: it here, so it got a scratch on it. What [23:06] Speaker 2: I'm saying? What I'm saying, though? No, no. [23:08] Speaker 6: It's some scratches on people rings. [23:10] Speaker 2: KB! Listen up. Don't scratch my shit. Why are you [23:14] Speaker 2: scratching mine? I won. I thought winning was winning. You [23:16] Speaker 2: want to know what's wild, though? You never did that. What? [23:19] Speaker 2: went and joined buddy-buddy with niggas. You could have went [23:22] Speaker 2: and took a pay cut and joined somebody. . [23:26] Speaker 6: . [23:48] Speaker 2: No one tells. There's no rule book. There's not. There's [23:52] Speaker 2: not a rule book. [23:54] Speaker 4: So we got to find out when our legacy is [23:57] Speaker 4: getting poked at. [23:58] Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's whatever you want [24:00] Speaker 6: to be known for. If you want to be hugged [24:02] Speaker 6: by the media, you know what to do with your career. [24:06] Speaker 6: if you want to be hugged by the niggas that [24:08] Speaker 6: are back home, you. [24:09] Speaker 2: Know what to do with your career. Hey, can I [24:10] Speaker 2: pose a question, though? [24:11] Speaker 6: Like, you know if your family back home is going [24:13] Speaker 6: to respect a move or not. [24:15] Speaker 2: Hey, can I pose a question? Shump, Evan, can I [24:17] Speaker 2: pose a question, though? Talk to me. [24:18] Speaker 6: Why do we care when players leave and come together [24:22] Speaker 6: and they create their own team, but if a GM [24:24] Speaker 6: do it, it's... Because we players. No, no, no, no, no, no. [24:28] Speaker 6: I'm asking you. What I'm saying is, why do we [24:32] Speaker 6: care if... Let's just say the first time when Bron's [24:35] Speaker 6: in Cleveland... Is light supposed. [24:36] Speaker 2: To be going on? I don't know. It looks swaggy. [24:39] Speaker 6: It looks swaggy a little bit. While Bron's in Cleveland [24:43] Speaker 6: the first time, while Bron's in Cleveland the first time, [24:46] Speaker 6: they're asking him to win a championship. His second best [24:51] Speaker 6: player is Big Z and maybe Boobie Gibson. No disrespect [24:54] Speaker 6: to those guys. Mo Williams too, right? But he's being [24:58] Speaker 6: compared to the Magics, the LeBrons who had Kareem. [25:03] Speaker 2: He had. [25:06] Speaker 3: I said Magic LeBron and whoever. [25:07] Speaker 6: So when they had these other star players with them, [25:10] Speaker 6: Magic had Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, he's being compared to those guys, [25:13] Speaker 6: and you want him to win without those players. Then [25:16] Speaker 6: he goes and comes together and puts it together himself. Like, hey, yo, [25:19] Speaker 6: Chris Boss, I want you here. D-Way, you come here. [25:23] Speaker 2: Bam, bam, bam. [25:24] Speaker 6: Why is that seen as demonizing? Because you're doing it yourself. Now, [25:29] Speaker 6: if a GM would have sent him there, we would [25:31] Speaker 6: have said it's all good. But when you do it yourself... [25:33] Speaker 6: When you. [25:34] Speaker 2: Take your, because y'all going to talk trash about my legacy. [25:37] Speaker 3: You going to put dirt on. [25:38] Speaker 2: Hold on. [25:39] Speaker 6: When y'all going to talk trash about my legacy, if [25:41] Speaker 6: I don't win, when I take control and I put [25:43] Speaker 6: the pieces together and I win, why is that demonized? [25:46] Speaker 2: But when a GM does it for you, it's okay. [25:50] Speaker 6: Well, again, like he said, I don't give a fuck [25:52] Speaker 6: what GM speaks at night. [25:54] Speaker 3: Who cares? [25:55] Speaker 2: We don't care. [25:56] Speaker 6: The GMs don't get to hold the fucking MVP trophy up. [25:59] Speaker 2: They do, though. They do hold the trophy up. [26:01] Speaker 3: I think a different comparison is. [26:03] Speaker 2: Who held last year's MVP trophy? No, I'm talking about [26:06] Speaker 2: the championship trophy. What GM? They hold the championship trophy. [26:09] Speaker 2: What GM? All the GMs. They don't touch it. You [26:11] Speaker 2: see how you can't think? You can't think. [26:13] Speaker 6: We know Jalen Brunson did it. I don't know who [26:16] Speaker 6: the GM for the Knicks off the top of my head. [26:17] Speaker 6: That's what I'm telling you, though. [26:18] Speaker 3: What I'm telling you, they all hold it. You just [26:19] Speaker 3: said they don't hold the trophy. They don't hold the trophy. [26:21] Speaker 2: I'm saying they don't get the glory, gang. You know [26:23] Speaker 2: what I'm saying. [26:23] Speaker 6: I'm not saying they get the glory. I'm asking when [26:25] Speaker 6: players put themselves... You said why we don't respect it [26:28] Speaker 6: if the GM does it. [26:29] Speaker 2: Because he a GM. We don't care. But you got to. [26:32] Speaker 6: Be in position. You got to be in position to win. [26:36] Speaker 6: Somebody has to put the organization in place. Sometimes certain [26:40] Speaker 6: GMs are better than other GMs. [26:41] Speaker 2: Yes. [26:42] Speaker 6: So what LeBron was trying to win with his first [26:43] Speaker 6: time in Cleveland, it wasn't put together right. He went [26:46] Speaker 6: down to Miami, put the pieces together and won. [26:49] Speaker 2: Why is that? I'm saying when players do it, why [26:51] Speaker 2: is that seeming so negative? Why he come back? Because [26:54] Speaker 2: Pat Riley took his cookies? Thank you, Brendan. That one's true. [26:58] Speaker 2: You weren't ready for that. You weren't ready for that one. [27:01] Speaker 2: You weren't ready. [27:02] Speaker 3: You was ready to fight me until I hit. [27:04] Speaker 2: You with that one. I ain't gonna lie. That man [27:07] Speaker 2: be serious about this. [27:08] Speaker 3: He really is serious about the cookies. He's serious about [27:10] Speaker 3: the sweets. [27:11] Speaker 4: See, there's a difference between when 98 hit, everything changed. [27:14] Speaker 4: When Jordan retired, when he retired, rules came in. Rings [27:21] Speaker 4: mattered when he retired. When he was playing... Rings didn't matter. [27:26] Speaker 2: When did that conversation start? [27:28] Speaker 3: He didn't win for his first seven, eight years. [27:30] Speaker 2: And that was the knock on him. [27:32] Speaker 6: You keep going up to Isaiah Thomas, getting your ass [27:35] Speaker 6: spanked the fuck up, and sent the fuck home. [27:38] Speaker 2: That's what made Mike Mike. Real talk, he need to [27:42] Speaker 2: hug Isaiah Thomas and them niggas. I need to hug y'all. [27:44] Speaker 2: Y'all really unlock me. [27:45] Speaker 3: That ain't going to never happen. [27:47] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what drove a nigga. [27:49] Speaker 3: Who was the best player. [27:51] Speaker 4: That ever walked the planet of basketball ever? during, in 92, [27:56] Speaker 4: the summer of 92. Michael Jordan. [27:58] Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. [27:58] Speaker 4: How many rings did Michael Jordan have in 92? [28:00] Speaker 2: Two. Two. Michael Jordan. Two rings. He was the GOAT. Yeah, [28:05] Speaker 2: I was two years old. 18,000 points. Yeah. You remember, remember. [28:10] Speaker 6: Out the gate, just so y'all know, I was a champion. [28:12] Speaker 6: Out the gate, Lord. [28:13] Speaker 2: You hear me? I was born in 93 rings, right [28:15] Speaker 2: off the bat. You feel what I'm saying? Champion. So [28:18] Speaker 2: that means there is a Magic Johnson, five rings. Mm-hmm. [28:22] Speaker 2: How many MVPs? There's a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, right? There's a [28:25] Speaker 2: Bill Russell still, right? [28:27] Speaker 4: Two rings got rid of all that, which means at [28:31] Speaker 4: that moment in time, rings didn't matter. [28:33] Speaker 2: They just did the eye test. It was just the [28:35] Speaker 2: eye test. [28:36] Speaker 4: When 98 happened, when 98. [28:38] Speaker 2: Finished, boom, there it is. This is perfection. This is [28:43] Speaker 2: what it takes to be the GOAT, right? Now we [28:46] Speaker 2: have law. When he got the crown... There was none [28:50] Speaker 2: of that yet. [28:51] Speaker 7: Yeah, but they also broke it down even during a documentary. [28:54] Speaker 7: It's like, bro, I'm going to win two in a [28:55] Speaker 7: row and then win three because Larry and Magic haven't [28:59] Speaker 7: done it yet. [28:59] Speaker 3: I'm up out of here. [29:00] Speaker 2: I get it. [29:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, they eliminated. [29:02] Speaker 7: Kareem from the all-time great conversation and just literally broke [29:05] Speaker 7: it down to this is where we're going to reach. [29:08] Speaker 7: But if you go back and start looking. It's uncomfortable [29:10] Speaker 7: to talk about. It's a guard's game. Yeah, but a [29:13] Speaker 7: dude's been dominant since he was 12, 13 years old. [29:15] Speaker 7: They had to change, you know what I mean? Or even, [29:18] Speaker 7: they had to change the game for him. He couldn't [29:19] Speaker 7: dunk in college. He couldn't do anything. Led the league [29:22] Speaker 7: in points, blocks. [29:23] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm fuckwittable. It wasn't Davis Stern's league. See, [29:29] Speaker 2: people don't understand this part either. [29:30] Speaker 3: And the black Muslims at the time, too. [29:32] Speaker 4: Remember, when did Davis Stern take over? Who was his [29:36] Speaker 4: first draft pick? Who was his first superstar? [29:39] Speaker 2: Right. It's the same people we know today that got [29:42] Speaker 2: their names on the trophy. Magic, Larry, MJ. They're sealed [29:49] Speaker 2: in history. [29:52] Speaker 4: There's a superstar who left. No one questioned his rings. [29:59] Speaker 4: They didn't win it where he got drafted. But they [30:03] Speaker 4: didn't question the rings because obviously it was in the 90s. [30:05] Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal. No one's ever said no shit about Shaq leaving, [30:12] Speaker 2: coming to LA, winning his rings. [30:15] Speaker 3: But they was tweaking with the magic. [30:17] Speaker 7: But see, that's what I'm saying. He went to give [30:19] Speaker 7: him his money. He went to the finals. [30:22] Speaker 2: But you see how we have to try to. [30:25] Speaker 6: But you do understand the difference in that because... Well, [30:28] Speaker 6: who was Shaq going to in LA? [30:30] Speaker 3: When you go. [30:31] Speaker 2: He changed conferences. I'm a free... Listen to you guys. [30:36] Speaker 2: You're coming up with an excuse. [30:40] Speaker 6: Let me just say one thing. The Magic also did [30:42] Speaker 6: not want to pay him what he was worth. [30:45] Speaker 2: You hear your excuses. No. [30:48] Speaker 3: No, but it was the 90s. [30:49] Speaker 2: They didn't want to pay the man. That's the problem. No, no, no, no. [30:52] Speaker 2: It's what? Jordan was going. [30:54] Speaker 7: It was literally resetting and being like, all right, what's [30:57] Speaker 7: it going to be? Like, the Rockets won a couple. [30:59] Speaker 7: We were all still kind of like, all right, bro. [31:01] Speaker 7: MJ's gone. [31:02] Speaker 3: The landscape was being wrecked. [31:03] Speaker 2: No, no, no. MJ was here in 96. Listen. When [31:05] Speaker 2: Shaq came in. [31:06] Speaker 3: 96, Shaq left. It was damn terrible. [31:08] Speaker 6: And went to a team that wasn't boogieing. He did [31:12] Speaker 6: not join the reigning champion. There's a difference. [31:17] Speaker 2: Okay, well, LeBron James went to Miami. They wasn't boogieing. [31:21] Speaker 2: Stop it. Stop it, man. They just won a championship [31:24] Speaker 2: a few years ago. [31:25] Speaker 3: No, no, he's talking about when he first went there [31:26] Speaker 3: when D-Wade and them were there. [31:27] Speaker 2: They weren't boogieing, but it was... They weren't boogieing. D-Wade [31:30] Speaker 2: joined the finals MVP. They were not boogieing. D-Wade won [31:33] Speaker 2: the finals MVP. Huh? You say he what? No, no, no. [31:41] Speaker 6: He joined the finals MVP. It's literally the same thing [31:45] Speaker 6: KD did. You went and joined a champion already. That's [31:48] Speaker 6: why we didn't respect it. [31:50] Speaker 2: What year did he go to Miami? 2010. [31:51] Speaker 3: First year was 2010, 2011. [31:52] Speaker 2: Yep. So they lost in the first round the previous [31:58] Speaker 2: two years. First round? We're 47-35 the year prior to it. [32:00] Speaker 2: First round? [32:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, but Flash, he had a lot of injuries that year. [32:04] Speaker 2: He was on MMA. First round. Back-to-back first round losses. Back-to-back. Oh, [32:08] Speaker 2: it was back-to-back. Okay. Back-to-back. It wasn't boogieing. At all. [32:12] Speaker 2: It was not boogieing. [32:13] Speaker 3: It was not boogieing. [32:14] Speaker 2: So he went over there. But that's what I'm saying is. Listen, though. [32:19] Speaker 2: If you were playing. That's his hometown. [32:21] Speaker 4: What? [32:22] Speaker 2: And went and joined D. Wade, who already had a ring. [32:26] Speaker 2: That was crazy. [32:27] Speaker 6: Now, if he went and joined somebody else, if you [32:30] Speaker 6: go join anybody else that ain't won. [32:33] Speaker 2: Before, cool. You go join people with jury? That's weird. [32:38] Speaker 2: You can't go play with your boy? Listen up. Listen up. [32:44] Speaker 2: You got a girl. [32:45] Speaker 3: Why you still edit this out? [32:47] Speaker 2: You look like you want to come over to high school. [32:49] Speaker 2: We back at high school right now. Okay. You got [32:51] Speaker 2: a girlfriend. All right. Right? Where we going with this? [32:55] Speaker 3: You got a girlfriend, right? [32:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [32:57] Speaker 6: Okay. [32:57] Speaker 2: You're in high school. [32:59] Speaker 3: If I come in more swaggy with more wins or. [33:02] Speaker 6: Whatever and she just come over here with me, that's cool. [33:05] Speaker 3: That's what you be trying to do half the time. [33:07] Speaker 2: What? Is that cool? [33:08] Speaker 7: Wait, what? [33:08] Speaker 2: What you doing? Wait, what? Is that cool? Nah. [33:14] Speaker 3: But that's not the same thing. [33:15] Speaker 2: She a bad person. [33:16] Speaker 3: That's not the same thing. Is she a bad person? [33:18] Speaker 3: In that example, yeah. [33:19] Speaker 2: In that example. That's what Katie did! No kidding. That's [33:25] Speaker 2: what he did. You would enjoy this. I asked this [33:29] Speaker 2: last year. I said, OK. That's what he did. That's [33:32] Speaker 2: why we was mad. That's the only reason. I get it. No, [33:35] Speaker 2: y'all was mad because y'all three-peat got fucked up. You [33:37] Speaker 2: could pick a new dude. You gonna pick the rich dude? Yeah. [33:40] Speaker 3: You lost your favorite eater. [33:41] Speaker 2: That sucks. That's crazy. That's crazy. Your favorite eater. That's [33:46] Speaker 2: what they did. Kate just. That was bad. Josiah, do [33:51] Speaker 2: your job. [33:51] Speaker 6: OK. [33:51] Speaker 2: No, no. As players. [33:54] Speaker 1: Final comments and we got to move on. [33:55] Speaker 4: As players, and we work on our game, and we're [34:01] Speaker 4: told as youth it's about winning. [34:04] Speaker 2: We find out. We were told we were taught. That's [34:07] Speaker 2: what we're taught. Right. We're taught winning, winning, winning. Right. [34:09] Speaker 2: So we're going to do anything to win. Now, when [34:11] Speaker 2: we start getting to these other than politics start kicking in, then. [34:14] Speaker 4: We come and we're better. I'm better than you, but [34:16] Speaker 4: you make more money than me. You got to play [34:18] Speaker 4: like the politics kick. [34:20] Speaker 2: In the basketball. [34:21] Speaker 6: Right. [34:21] Speaker 4: So we're finding out in real time. Now, the problem [34:24] Speaker 4: is this. Curry didn't lose to you guys. [34:30] Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. [34:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. [34:32] Speaker 2: They did. They had beat us prior to that. And [34:34] Speaker 2: then y'all beat them. [34:36] Speaker 6: Yeah. [34:36] Speaker 4: They make a call to a superhero. [34:38] Speaker 2: That they just sent home. Yeah, we just sent him home. [34:41] Speaker 2: We just kicked your ass. [34:42] Speaker 4: But we know he can neutralize Bigfella over there, and [34:47] Speaker 4: we can take. [34:48] Speaker 2: Care of the rest. We call him. We calling you [34:51] Speaker 2: for help. How come he can come help you win? [34:57] Speaker 2: He don't get credit for none of it, but you do. [35:00] Speaker 3: You got a point. [35:02] Speaker 2: How does that work? That's a hell of a point. [35:04] Speaker 2: That's a hell of a point. I got your point. [35:06] Speaker 2: That's a hell of a point. Check it out. I [35:10] Speaker 2: got this car. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. You get in [35:14] Speaker 2: the motherfucker. [35:15] Speaker 4: Yeah. [35:16] Speaker 6: Because you in it, yeah, we get more girls. You [35:19] Speaker 6: get out of it, and then you say, hey, I [35:22] Speaker 6: want to drive the car. [35:23] Speaker 2: This bitch mine. This is mine. [35:26] Speaker 6: Yeah, you was lit getting in the car. Yeah, we [35:29] Speaker 6: got 20 girls, both of us in the front seat. [35:32] Speaker 6: But now you get out. I still get the 10 girls. [35:35] Speaker 2: That is sufficient. [35:36] Speaker 6: Get your own girls, bro. Get your whip. Where your [35:39] Speaker 6: whip at? Because I drive this. That's why they say, [35:42] Speaker 6: you got the keys. [35:43] Speaker 2: He got the keys, sweaty. You passenger. Handle the aux cord. [35:47] Speaker 2: But the problem is. Handle the aux. But the problem is. [35:50] Speaker 6: But you can't even get the aux because that's clay shit. [35:53] Speaker 2: And he driving the boat. But that's the problem. It's not. [35:56] Speaker 2: That's the truth. No, no, no. Because when. I'm telling you. No, no. [36:01] Speaker 2: It's bothering you. [36:02] Speaker 1: No, no, no. [36:02] Speaker 4: When you pulled up in the car, you got to remember. [36:06] Speaker 4: You wasn't driving. [36:07] Speaker 2: Who? You wasn't. You gave me the keys. Stephen Curry [36:11] Speaker 2: was driving. I know what you're saying. Stephen Curry was [36:13] Speaker 2: still driving. He let me get the keys. He did not. [36:16] Speaker 2: And I was driving it. [36:17] Speaker 4: And I drove all the way to the finals with [36:19] Speaker 4: the finals MVP. [36:21] Speaker 2: I'm bringing the girls, too. [36:23] Speaker 3: Stop pulling on pinky shit like that. [36:25] Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying? But what I'm saying is, you can't, [36:29] Speaker 2: you cannot... I ain't gonna lie, though. He cooking a [36:31] Speaker 2: little bit. You cannot give, you cannot say. [36:34] Speaker 6: I'm not taking away from who he is. [36:35] Speaker 2: I'm saying why we don't respect him. You can't say [36:38] Speaker 2: someone calls or nothing. [36:39] Speaker 4: I mean, they literally... You said why he don't get [36:41] Speaker 4: the respect, though. What I'm saying, literally, you went on vacation. [36:43] Speaker 4: You went to go find this nigga. Like, this nigga [36:45] Speaker 4: was in the Elks somewhere, chillin'. He wasn't even thinking [36:48] Speaker 4: about your chillin'. You called him. [36:49] Speaker 2: Flutist all of you. But that's what scares me. That's [36:53] Speaker 2: what scares me. [36:54] Speaker 6: He picked up the phone after getting sent to. [36:58] Speaker 2: This vacation by this nigga. [37:01] Speaker 6: He picked up the phone and said, yeah, I'll come. [37:05] Speaker 3: But that's not his. [37:06] Speaker 2: No, no, no. That is his fault. That's it. [37:09] Speaker 7: Let me just say one thing. We keep forgetting that [37:11] Speaker 7: at that time, people were battling for supremacy. So when [37:14] Speaker 7: we sit here, we're like, why can't we join? Why [37:15] Speaker 7: can't we join? Paul's like, no, y'all all battling for [37:18] Speaker 7: the top level. Because the MVP matters. [37:20] Speaker 2: And who was going to be? [37:21] Speaker 7: So when KD got hurt and Steph won them two MVPs, [37:23] Speaker 7: remember when KD was like, yo, how I lose my [37:25] Speaker 7: position as the top player in the world? I just [37:27] Speaker 7: got hurt. He understood the level of what he was [37:29] Speaker 7: going after and what was occurring. There was no point [37:32] Speaker 7: in life at anything of him leaving OKC when they [37:36] Speaker 7: just gave up a 3-1 lead and all you had [37:38] Speaker 7: to do was finish off the last two minutes of [37:40] Speaker 7: the game and finesse from there. But he said, forget it. [37:43] Speaker 7: I'm going to go over there with three of the [37:44] Speaker 7: other top 20 players in the world. and fuck up [37:47] Speaker 7: the next four or five years of basketball. [37:49] Speaker 2: But hold on. [37:50] Speaker 6: I agree with you. But I also agree. I agree [37:53] Speaker 6: with that point, but I agree with what Gil's saying. [37:55] Speaker 6: Your point is valid, but his point is valid too. [37:58] Speaker 6: We can't say that KD's two. [38:00] Speaker 2: Rings don't matter. Yes, we can. Hold on. Wait, let me. [38:02] Speaker 7: You come and brag to me and you got Steph, Clay, [38:04] Speaker 7: or whatever. I do average eight points per game. I'm like, bro, [38:08] Speaker 7: shut the hell up. [38:09] Speaker 3: I'm not trying to hear that shit. I win me [38:11] Speaker 3: and play with them. [38:11] Speaker 6: This is what Gil is saying, though. [38:15] Speaker 3: OK, that's fine. [38:15] Speaker 6: If you want to if you want to say that [38:17] Speaker 6: Katie's two rings aren't valid, then why is Steph's four valid? [38:20] Speaker 6: Is that your point? [38:22] Speaker 2: Yes. [38:23] Speaker 6: Because he's saying if you're if you're saying the two, [38:25] Speaker 6: if you're saying those two don't matter that Katie got, [38:28] Speaker 6: then that's two you needed. [38:29] Speaker 3: You got to take away. [38:30] Speaker 6: They count for everybody and they don't count for nobody. [38:33] Speaker 2: Attack Clay. Don't attack Steph. I'm not attacking nobody. [38:39] Speaker 6: I'm attacking the hypocrisy. I'm attacking the hypocrisy. Either the [38:48] Speaker 6: two rings count for KD or they don't count for nobody. [38:51] Speaker 6: We're not going to play both. [38:53] Speaker 2: I didn't say they don't count. All rings count. It's [38:57] Speaker 2: just certain rings count. We've said that from the job. [39:01] Speaker 2: He said that it pays. Either the range matters. I [39:03] Speaker 2: get what he averaged. But was he MVP? KD wasn't [39:12] Speaker 2: even supposed to be there. Period. Like, the fact that [39:15] Speaker 2: he showed up is crazy. Listen up. [39:18] Speaker 3: Listen up. [39:19] Speaker 2: But you see how it's crazy. That was wild, buddy. [39:22] Speaker 2: Do you remember what? But that's our problem, y'all. And [39:25] Speaker 2: then they're going to throw the gun and die when [39:27] Speaker 2: it's over. [39:28] Speaker 4: You see how you're giving Steph credit still? [39:31] Speaker 2: Because he won on his own, Lord. They told him [39:35] Speaker 2: he was going to be out the league for ankle problems. [39:38] Speaker 2: He had ankle problems. They told me, bro, I'll scout [39:41] Speaker 2: and report against him. They like, man, if he making, [39:43] Speaker 2: he making. If he missing, he missing. No, I get it. [39:45] Speaker 6: That's how they was talking to me about stuff. [39:48] Speaker 2: But look, that's what I'm saying. Look how we're just, [39:52] Speaker 2: we're moving it. No, for no reason. Do you remember [39:56] Speaker 2: how we went for KD? If I come to your team. [39:59] Speaker 2: Do you remember how we was going for KD, though? Yeah, before. [40:03] Speaker 2: Before he went and joined them niggas. Yeah, but he's not. No, no, no. [40:06] Speaker 4: We're treating him like he joined. [40:08] Speaker 2: Them and was like this third option or some shit. [40:11] Speaker 7: No, he should have never been an option. [40:12] Speaker 2: What was he? [40:14] Speaker 3: Why was he an option at all? [40:15] Speaker 2: He was the enemy. [40:17] Speaker 3: Why would he pick up the phone call for the Warriors? [40:18] Speaker 2: How do you become the option? Bro, that's OD. It's [40:20] Speaker 2: no different than Superman picking it up for Batman. Oh, [40:23] Speaker 2: you need me? No, they're both heroes. [40:25] Speaker 3: You need me? [40:26] Speaker 2: No, that's not right. They're both heroes. Let me know. [40:29] Speaker 8: They're fighting crime. We know who's in the movie. We [40:32] Speaker 8: know who's in the movie. We know who's unstruck. We [40:36] Speaker 8: know there's Superman over there. Somewhere lurking in the back. [40:39] Speaker 8: We know who the strongest motherfucker in the world is. [40:42] Speaker 4: But we see Batman, Superwoman running around doing their thing. [40:46] Speaker 2: We do see that. Not Superman better than Batman. And Batwoman. Hey, man, [40:50] Speaker 2: where we going? Wait, say that again? Listen up. Where [40:51] Speaker 2: we going? Not Superman better than Batman. [40:53] Speaker 3: That's the problem right here. [40:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, one's a regular ass nigga, just rich. It's that gadget. [40:57] Speaker 6: One's real, and one is made up. No, y'all like [41:00] Speaker 6: the made up story. Y'all like the media, the made [41:02] Speaker 6: up bullshit ass story. [41:04] Speaker 2: We want Batman. I want the made up character. I [41:06] Speaker 2: want Blackman. [41:06] Speaker 3: Show me the rich nigga that just decides. I'm going [41:11] Speaker 3: to whoop ass at night. [41:13] Speaker 6: I'm going to beat your ass at night with a [41:16] Speaker 6: mask on. [41:17] Speaker 2: That's a criminal. No, it's not. Nigga just come out [41:19] Speaker 2: at night? Vigilante. Vigilante. [41:22] Speaker 3: Wrap it up, Joe. [41:23] Speaker 4: Superman can do his thing all day. [41:27] Speaker 6: That's because he can burn people with his eyes. [41:30] Speaker 2: He from crypto. No, what I'm saying is when... Take control, Joe. No, no. [41:36] Speaker 2: When KD comes, right, he's still the best player on [41:39] Speaker 2: the planet. It don't matter. [41:40] Speaker 4: When LeBron teams up with Dwyane Wade, he's still the [41:43] Speaker 4: best player on the planet. [41:44] Speaker 2: We're not taking that away. No, so why is their rings... [41:47] Speaker 2: being diminished. [41:48] Speaker 6: Because there were three top 20 players there. [41:51] Speaker 2: It don't matter. I'm still number one. They just went 73-9. [41:53] Speaker 2: They went 73-9. That's where you want to go? They [41:55] Speaker 2: went 73-9 and you went right over. You went 73-9 [41:56] Speaker 2: and called me. [42:02] Speaker 9: Bro, you should have never got caught. They did call me. Yeah, [42:07] Speaker 9: they did call me. You should have even had my number. [42:09] Speaker 9: Why are you calling me? Steph should call me. Why [42:12] Speaker 9: are y'all calling me? [42:13] Speaker 2: Why are y'all even on a plane? [42:15] Speaker 4: This should just be stacked. [42:16] Speaker 2: We're in the same category. [42:19] Speaker 6: He should hit it with a call me Did you [42:21] Speaker 6: just get fired Hey, so uh, what you want? [42:39] Speaker 2: No, that's real. All right. [42:41] Speaker 1: Well, let's keep this thing moving. Speaking of Kobe, let's [42:45] Speaker 1: talk a little bit about these Lakers. Lakers are one [42:47] Speaker 1: of the most active teams in the league this offseason [42:50] Speaker 1: with LeBron's unceremonious exit after eight seasons paving the way [42:54] Speaker 1: for the Purple and Gold to build a team. They [42:56] Speaker 1: promised Luka when he agreed to a three-year extension last summer. [42:59] Speaker 1: All five of the primary starters that helped guide the– Gil, [43:02] Speaker 1: stop clapping. [43:03] Speaker 2: Damn. Shit, it's sad. Y'all act like y'all don't need [43:08] Speaker 2: us anymore. You just quit us. I'm just saying. Just [43:10] Speaker 2: quit us and turn your back on everything we did [43:12] Speaker 2: for y'all. I'm grateful. [43:14] Speaker 4: You see that man right there in 44? That was [43:16] Speaker 4: the last time we had one. [43:17] Speaker 2: That was the last time we had, and he was [43:21] Speaker 2: the logo. That makes sense. He was the logo. We're [43:24] Speaker 2: about to redo the logo. [43:26] Speaker 1: With the snap the Slovenian so all five of the [43:28] Speaker 1: primary starters to help guide the Lakers to a first-round [43:31] Speaker 1: win over the Rockets No longer with the tape LeBron [43:34] Speaker 1: gone Rui Hachi more gone Marcus smart gone wait Luke [43:37] Speaker 1: and our go. [43:38] Speaker 4: Don't do that Rui was killing no after that You [43:43] Speaker 4: don't like Marcus smart. [43:44] Speaker 3: He had a great first man. [43:45] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah smart. Oh It's crazy, y'all, though. Yo, Marcus Smart. Oh, [43:50] Speaker 2: come on. [43:51] Speaker 6: Marcus Smart got to get respect, Gil. [43:54] Speaker 3: Gil, you don't respect Marcus Smart? [43:57] Speaker 2: What's wrong with you, man? [43:58] Speaker 3: In the first round, he had 16-17 in game versus Rockets. [44:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was getting celebrated in the first round. [44:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. [44:05] Speaker 2: But Luka was supposed to be back on it. One [44:07] Speaker 2: of the greatest first rounds. I'm just saying, when I watch, [44:10] Speaker 2: it's literally love and hate. You take a charge, I [44:13] Speaker 2: love you. [44:14] Speaker 4: You think about offense, I don't like you. You're not [44:17] Speaker 4: going to make a three, then two air balls. [44:19] Speaker 7: And then, and then, so that's, that's, that's eternal. [44:26] Speaker 6: If he make one, and then shoot two air balls, he. [44:29] Speaker 2: One for three. [44:30] Speaker 3: Hey, put that on a t-shirt, yo. Life's ill. [44:33] Speaker 6: If a nigga make an all net, and then shoot [44:36] Speaker 6: two that go, and come out, it's still one for three. [44:39] Speaker 6: Just because it's uglier, It don't matter. That's like Kevin Martin. [44:44] Speaker 6: Kevin Martin used to come out here with. [44:45] Speaker 2: That hit jump shot. [44:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, this shit pissed me off. It's ugly, whatever. [44:49] Speaker 2: That bitch wet. Yeah, but this one, it's not. Anywho. [44:54] Speaker 3: He did his job, though. [44:56] Speaker 2: He did his job. I appreciate you. [44:59] Speaker 1: So LeBron gone, Rui Hachimura gone, Marcus Smart gone, Luke [45:01] Speaker 1: Kennard gone, DeAndre Ayton gone, shit, even the Buss family gone. [45:05] Speaker 1: With Jeannie's sibling and Mark Walter pulling a cool selling, [45:08] Speaker 1: a controlling stake to Josh Kushner and Bob Iger. for [45:10] Speaker 1: an estimated $ 12. 5 billion. So Lakers kept the man known [45:16] Speaker 1: as Lemon Daddy, signed an Austin Reeves to a four-year [45:18] Speaker 1: $ 180 million deal. [45:19] Speaker 2: Get your money, boy. Shout out to Austin. Oh, that's [45:21] Speaker 2: our team? Okay. [45:23] Speaker 1: They added a rim protector, a lob threat, and Walker [45:25] Speaker 1: Kessler with a four-year deal after a sign-and-trade with the Jazz. [45:28] Speaker 1: Lakeshaw also added Quentin Grimes. [45:30] Speaker 2: He's light-skinned, right? Who? He's light-skinned? [45:32] Speaker 3: Quentin Grimes? [45:33] Speaker 2: Yeah. Light-skinned enough. [45:35] Speaker 1: Quentin Grimes, Sandro Mamou, Colin Sexton, Lucas' former teammate, Jaden Hardy. [45:40] Speaker 1: NBA champion Kevon Looney, Lateef Stiebel, Zaire Williams, and grabbed [45:44] Speaker 1: Cameron Carr in a draft day trade. [45:47] Speaker 2: Carr's nice. [45:47] Speaker 3: I like Cameron Carr. [45:48] Speaker 2: He's really good. And they still got one LeBron James [45:51] Speaker 2: left on the roster. Who? LeBron James. Oh, okay. They [45:53] Speaker 2: have a LeBron James on the roster. My bad, I forgot. Okay. [45:58] Speaker 2: I don't disrespect Bronny. I don't do that. I like Bronny. [46:01] Speaker 7: After the first two, it gets treacherous. [46:04] Speaker 1: So, Gil, long time Lakers fan here. Once you start looking, [46:08] Speaker 1: you're like, God damn. You're a longtime Lakers fan. Lakers diehard, [46:14] Speaker 1: if you will. What are your expectations for the Lakers [46:17] Speaker 1: this season? [46:19] Speaker 4: I expect to get season tickets for real cheap this year. Nah, [46:22] Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. The tickets need to go down. [46:25] Speaker 4: It's like when, you know, it was like Nick Young, Socrates. [46:28] Speaker 2: That's not normally how it happens. Socrates. Yeah, the big [46:31] Speaker 2: head nigga. Robert Socrates. [46:33] Speaker 3: Why do you expect the ticket prices to go down? [46:37] Speaker 2: What? [46:38] Speaker 3: I'm saying, why does he expect the ticket prices to [46:40] Speaker 3: go down? [46:40] Speaker 2: I don't think you... I don't know. [46:42] Speaker 3: Normally when there's gentrification. [46:45] Speaker 2: The prices go up. [46:46] Speaker 4: Normally when there's gentrification, the prices go up. [46:50] Speaker 2: What you talking about? I wasn't going to go there, Brendan. [46:54] Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go there. Hey, man. This ain't [46:57] Speaker 2: real estate. It ain't enough tattoos. It ain't enough tattoos [46:59] Speaker 2: up there. We need a tattoo artist for the L.A. [47:00] Speaker 2: Lakers right now. [47:01] Speaker 6: The Lakers game against the Clippers game. [47:02] Speaker 2: We just need some tattoos. We need some tattoos. [47:04] Speaker 6: We need a Kawhi on the team. [47:05] Speaker 2: There's too many Kylons. Exciting whites. [47:21] Speaker 3: We're cool. [47:22] Speaker 2: Hold on. [47:23] Speaker 3: Y'all don't think the Lakers are going. [47:24] Speaker 2: To make the playoffs? [47:25] Speaker 3: The play-in, if they do get in the play-in. They'll [47:27] Speaker 3: make the playoffs. [47:29] Speaker 2: In the West? I rock with Luka like that. In [47:32] Speaker 2: the West, I rock with Luka like that. Absolutely. [47:35] Speaker 6: They was teetering last year. [47:38] Speaker 2: Luka's first four years. We was never teetering. Teetering? Top [47:42] Speaker 2: four teams in the West. Luka went the fuck off [47:44] Speaker 2: at the end of the season last year. Hey, now. [47:46] Speaker 2: Who went off? [47:47] Speaker 3: Who went off? He's still there, right? [47:49] Speaker 2: Huh? [47:49] Speaker 3: He's still there, right? [47:50] Speaker 2: And he's here. You forgot Lebanon James is not with him? Okay, [47:52] Speaker 2: that's fine. Listen. Lebanon James. You can call him whatever [47:56] Speaker 2: you want. The powder thrower. [47:58] Speaker 4: LeBron James did the same shit I did last year. [48:01] Speaker 2: What? We took it off. We took it off. Come on, man. [48:05] Speaker 2: Come on, man. What's that? [48:06] Speaker 4: LeBron James was the third option trying to prove a point. [48:09] Speaker 2: He was trying to prove a point. Oh, yes, he was. No, no, no. Oh, [48:12] Speaker 2: this is the offense y'all want to run? I'm going [48:14] Speaker 2: to send it to the corner. Not when it went down. [48:16] Speaker 6: When it went down, Shorty showed you, like, no, no, [48:19] Speaker 6: I can go right back to first option. [48:21] Speaker 2: Y'all want to do pick and roll all day? All right. [48:24] Speaker 7: Bro, but Luka also took those bad teams, like the [48:27] Speaker 7: Mavericks team. He took a lot of young Mavericks teams [48:30] Speaker 7: to the playoffs, and they were like, Halfway through the season, [48:32] Speaker 7: he settled at fifth, sixth seed. [48:35] Speaker 3: He's done it before. He can carry teams. [48:36] Speaker 2: It's just all about it. Overhaul the roster. [48:38] Speaker 1: We're just talking about making the playoffs. Overhaul the roster. [48:42] Speaker 2: Walker Kessler. I like Walker Kessler for them. Yeah, Luka. [48:46] Speaker 6: I'm not sure if I love the price, but for them, [48:49] Speaker 6: Luka needs a lob threat. [48:50] Speaker 2: Two firsts and two firsts. When Luka come off that [48:53] Speaker 2: pick and roll. He can show the eyes. [48:55] Speaker 3: Listen, Walker Kessler is. [48:57] Speaker 6: What's going to dictate what Luka does because he's going [48:59] Speaker 6: to use him to read the defense. He's going to [49:01] Speaker 6: come off that mid pick and roll and you're going [49:03] Speaker 6: to be in a drop because you're betting I switch. [49:05] Speaker 2: Real talk. [49:05] Speaker 6: And now he's going to read him. He's going to [49:07] Speaker 6: be looking this way, pass over there to the corner. [49:10] Speaker 6: And the next guy, hey, listen, you've been that weak [49:12] Speaker 6: side man. That weak side man going to be in [49:14] Speaker 6: hell because he don't know when he's supposed to tag, [49:16] Speaker 6: when he's supposed to. [49:16] Speaker 2: Be over there. Yeah, you got to be disciplined. Yeah. [49:18] Speaker 6: So Walker Kessler means a lot. Walker Kessler's going to [49:20] Speaker 6: walk into double figures. He going to get three, four [49:22] Speaker 6: lobs a game. [49:23] Speaker 2: For sure. [49:24] Speaker 6: And so, like, that's a good signing. He's going to [49:26] Speaker 6: give them rim protection. I didn't say it wasn't going [49:28] Speaker 6: to be a good sign. [49:28] Speaker 2: No, no, I'm just saying, like, I. [49:30] Speaker 6: I don't think the Lakers are going to win a championship. [49:33] Speaker 6: I know they're not better than the Spurs. I know [49:35] Speaker 6: they're not better than OKC. But will the Lakers make [49:37] Speaker 6: the playoffs? I believe Luka is that dynamic. He's one [49:40] Speaker 6: of the few guys that picks what night it's going [49:42] Speaker 6: to be. I can go average 40. I can go [49:45] Speaker 6: get 40 tonight, or I can get 20 assists. Very [49:48] Speaker 6: few guys can do both. Bron was one of those guys. [49:50] Speaker 2: That's why he was hurt. [49:51] Speaker 6: Last year, he got soft tissue problems because he's fucking [49:54] Speaker 6: carrying everything. So now you're telling me without the nigga that. [49:59] Speaker 2: Was helping him carry it, y'all finna. [50:01] Speaker 3: Say he just gonna walk into the playoffs? [50:03] Speaker 7: Austin Reeves is still there and he's good on the ball. [50:06] Speaker 2: Take a shit. He can just be good on the ball. [50:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, he can just be good on the ball. [50:11] Speaker 2: Just one. Just one. Just one. Did you say Lance Armstrong? [50:20] Speaker 2: I just said it. Because he said pause. I'm like, wait. [50:23] Speaker 2: He didn't say two. Oh, he must have been Lance. [50:26] Speaker 2: Because he got one. My fault, y'all. I got the joke. [50:30] Speaker 2: Unnecessary Lance Armstrong slamming here. No, because he said pause, [50:35] Speaker 2: but he only said one. [50:36] Speaker 6: That wasn't the joke. [50:37] Speaker 2: Then you said. One ball could be enough, though, good. [50:41] Speaker 2: One ball could be enough. It was enough. You got [50:45] Speaker 2: three balls like LeVar. Anyway. [50:51] Speaker 4: Luka has the same thing that Chris Paul has. They [50:58] Speaker 4: understand how to... You just need to give them enough. [51:04] Speaker 4: And with the. [51:05] Speaker 2: Perfect pieces for their game, they can make it work. [51:09] Speaker 2: That's how Chris Paul was. If you ever looked at [51:11] Speaker 2: Chris Paul's teams... He's never had championship teams. [51:15] Speaker 3: I mean, Clippers are all right, though. [51:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all right. [51:18] Speaker 3: That was all right. [51:19] Speaker 4: But for the most part, he really made those teams [51:23] Speaker 4: look better than they were. [51:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. He never had. [51:25] Speaker 4: No ISO players that can get their own bucket. He [51:27] Speaker 4: had to create everything. [51:29] Speaker 3: You sure Blake Griffin with the Clippers towards the end [51:31] Speaker 3: of the teams? [51:32] Speaker 2: Blake Griffin couldn't post up. Back to the basket. Didn't [51:36] Speaker 2: he have Eric Gordon? Wasn't Eric Gordon on that team? [51:37] Speaker 3: I'm saying, but at one point, Blake was averaging 22, 8, [51:39] Speaker 3: and 5, bro. [51:40] Speaker 2: No, no. [51:41] Speaker 3: Blake's game started changing. [51:42] Speaker 2: Was Eric Gordon on that team? But I'm just saying, [51:44] Speaker 2: it's pin roll. I still got to manipulate it. Yeah, yeah. [51:46] Speaker 1: Right? [51:47] Speaker 2: If not, you got to get the ball. You got [51:48] Speaker 2: to fangoon this bitch. You got to get it. Sit here. [51:50] Speaker 2: You got to force it. feed the injury. [51:51] Speaker 4: I know, but that's Chris Paul game. But that's what [51:54] Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I look at Luka like that too [51:57] Speaker 4: where you just give him enough pieces, lob threats, a [52:00] Speaker 4: couple shooters, somebody who can backdoor. [52:03] Speaker 2: He can pick a roll the whole game. [52:04] Speaker 7: And then he bringing 36 points with it. One thing [52:06] Speaker 7: that we forget is like Luka, he'll go off for [52:09] Speaker 7: 15 straight like two different times throughout a game. [52:12] Speaker 3: We like, bro, this boy just. [52:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. Cooking. [52:15] Speaker 3: Like, cooking, cooking. [52:16] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? He's going to count for [52:17] Speaker 2: 55 points. Lucas, 100%. [52:19] Speaker 6: Lucas' only problem is on defense. Because when it comes [52:22] Speaker 6: to isos, we know what he's going to do. When [52:24] Speaker 6: it comes to the pick and roll, when it comes [52:26] Speaker 6: to the pick and roll, we know what. [52:27] Speaker 2: He's going to do. His only problem is on defense. [52:30] Speaker 6: Offensively, he gets it done no matter what, no matter [52:33] Speaker 6: who's out there, and he's going to make everybody else [52:36] Speaker 6: better around him just because he's that guy that can [52:39] Speaker 6: find everybody. [52:40] Speaker 3: He makes that corner pass. He throws the lob. [52:42] Speaker 6: We know what Luka's going to do, and we know [52:44] Speaker 6: there's a certain amount of wins you're going to get [52:46] Speaker 6: just because you got him out there. And Austin Reeves, listen, [52:49] Speaker 6: when LeBron and Luka were playing together last year, it [52:52] Speaker 6: was a small sample, so I think maybe like 11 [52:53] Speaker 6: or 12 games, but they won like nine of them. [52:56] Speaker 2: So we understand what Austin can do. [52:58] Speaker 6: Austin can average 26, 27, maybe even 28 points per [53:01] Speaker 6: game in this league. [53:02] Speaker 3: Especially with this team. [53:03] Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if it's like, okay, Luka, you do your thing. [53:05] Speaker 6: I'm going to come in and do this right here. [53:07] Speaker 6: That's going to be good enough in the Western Conference. [53:10] Speaker 6: About 5th or 6th. I ain't saying nothing crazy. You [53:12] Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? I ain't saying nothing crazy. Yeah, [53:14] Speaker 6: I'm just saying the Lakers, they're going to make the [53:15] Speaker 6: playoffs for sure. I feel like I'm with Evo. I [53:19] Speaker 6: think it's going to be a play-in type situation. I [53:21] Speaker 6: feel like they're going to really be forcing it at [53:23] Speaker 6: the end. Remember, play in the seventh now. No, no, [53:26] Speaker 6: but what I'm saying, they should be a good-ass seat. [53:28] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it's going to be borderline. [53:31] Speaker 6: It's going to be borderline on some Luka got to [53:33] Speaker 6: pull a rabbit out of hat and he needs somebody [53:35] Speaker 6: to lose over here. Luka got to be healthy. That's [53:38] Speaker 6: what I'm saying. [53:40] Speaker 2: If there's any injuries, it's going to be trouble. But [53:42] Speaker 2: I will say this. Luka looking like he really in shape. [53:47] Speaker 2: All them little clips I see, he looking like he [53:48] Speaker 2: really in shape. [53:48] Speaker 6: He looks in shape last year. The problem ain't this. [53:51] Speaker 6: He more in shape now. [53:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. [53:53] Speaker 3: Hey, the problem ain't this. [53:54] Speaker 2: He Ozempic, Luka, now. Fine, listen. That's child support, Luka. [53:57] Speaker 3: Ozempic. That's Luka. [54:00] Speaker 2: You always take it to the extra. I'm just saying. [54:03] Speaker 2: You always go up. Because you got to think about it. [54:05] Speaker 4: No. [54:05] Speaker 2: Motherfucker, you want half? Half? It's about to be this hard. Well, [54:12] Speaker 2: look about the average foot. He got to get another [54:14] Speaker 2: half back from the Lakers. Come on, man. I'm just [54:17] Speaker 2: going to be honest with you. [54:18] Speaker 1: Let's shift it over to that Lucas subject. [54:21] Speaker 2: You got caught there? I ain't going to lie, though. [54:24] Speaker 2: You right, though. [54:24] Speaker 6: He might be on some demon shit this year. You [54:27] Speaker 6: remember how cold it was coming. [54:29] Speaker 2: Going through it. That focus is different. [54:30] Speaker 1: So, Lucas was looking like a legit MVP last season. [54:33] Speaker 1: Put together a historic march. Saw him set the points [54:36] Speaker 1: per game record for that month. But also, like you mentioned, [54:38] Speaker 1: suffered a hamstring injury. [54:39] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. [54:40] Speaker 1: Early April, missed the end of the regular season. All [54:43] Speaker 1: of the playoffs guilt was not available. LeBron James was, though. [54:46] Speaker 1: Which is crazy. If you recall. [54:48] Speaker 3: And he won a series of Mark the Smart versus [54:50] Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. [54:52] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, well, you know, he was there. He barely played. [54:55] Speaker 1: But KD was hurt that time. We still count it. [54:57] Speaker 1: We still count it. But according to reports. Yeah, you [54:59] Speaker 1: got to count it. But, you know, K was hurt, though. [55:02] Speaker 1: So according to reports. [55:02] Speaker 2: Was he? [55:03] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you lose your leading scorer. [55:05] Speaker 2: Stop. Stop. After all that. Joe, keep going, man. After [55:09] Speaker 2: all that. Joe, keep going. Stop. Against his Lakers. Now [55:13] Speaker 2: we got a question, KD. Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.