# Gil's Arena Reacts To Giannis Traded To Miami

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 24 Jun 2026, 1 h 59 min.

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The Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade & NBA Draft BLOWS UP Gil's Arena as the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to a wild start of the NBA offseason as the Greek Freak's nasty divorce with the Milwaukee Bucks finally came to an end with a blockbuster trade to the Miami Heat and the next generation of NBA Superstars entered the league in one of the most loaded drafts in NBA History. They tip things off by breaking down AJ Dybantsa landing with the Washington Wizards as the #1 overall pick in the draft and discuss what the superstar from BYU brings to this Wizards squad that's looking to build around Trae Young & Anthony Davis to finally get back into the NBA Playoffs. They also discuss Darryn Peterson landing with the Utah Jazz at #2 despite his up and down college season and highlight Darius Acuff Jr as the biggest steal in the class as the projected top 5 pick slid all the way to #7 with the Sacramento Kings. They then give their biggest winners and losers of the 1st Round and debate which rookie will have the biggest impact this coming season, before moving on to the biggest news of the NBA Offseason so far as Giannis Antetokounmpo was dealt to the Miami Heat in one of the biggest blockbuster trades in NBA History. They give their reaction to the Greek Freak taking his talents to South Beach and debate if the former MVP's presence alongside Bam Adebayo and a murky bench moves the needle for a Miami Heat team desperately looking to make a deeper run in the NBA Playoffs. They also examine the Milwaukee Buck's return for their franchise superstar and debate if the team got enough assets in the mega trade before analyzing the Boston Celtics' place in the entire saga as they were rumored to put Jaylen Brown on the market to try and land Giannis, potentially destroying their relationship with their Finals MVP. Finally, they react to Austin Reaves signing a max contract to stay with the Los Angeles Lakers ahead of NBA Free Agency and debate if Luka Doncic & Lemon Daddy are the superstar duo the Lakers need to make a push for an NBA Title. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Kenyon Martin, Skip Bayless, Brandon Jennings & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code ARENA and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogsports.com/vgwg/... If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/ARENA to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. For the first time ever you can try NetSuite Next for free. Go to https://NetSuite.AI/Gil SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:57 AJ Dybantsa Goes #1 In The NBA Draft 0:09:19 Breaking Down The Wizards Roster 0:37:26 Darryn Peterson Goes #2 To The Jazz 0:49:45 Kings Get A Steal With Acuff Jr 1:17:26 Giannis Traded To The Miami Heat 1:28:04 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Hump Day
[0:08] Speaker 1: here in the arena. Glaze Wednesday. Also here in the arena.
[0:12] Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody?
[0:14] Speaker 2: What's up, baby?
[0:16] Speaker 1: Woof off my back.
[0:19] Speaker 2: It's going to.
[0:23] Speaker 1: Be a glorious day here today. This is Gil's Arena
[0:26] Speaker 1: presented by Underdog.
[0:27] Speaker 3: Woof, woof.
[0:28] Speaker 1: I'm really an award-winning host, Josiah Johnson. We're joined by
[0:30] Speaker 1: NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P.
[0:33] Speaker 2: Nigel. Yes, sir.
[0:37] Speaker 1: Representing Tough Crowd Golf and a card-carrying country club member,
[0:41] Speaker 1: we got Mr. B., Brandon, Jenny. Excellent father of that
[0:46] Speaker 1: golf event.
[0:47] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
[0:47] Speaker 1: And beautiful Delmartha. Fairmont Grand.
[0:50] Speaker 3: Grand Delmartha. I grew up. Shout out to Swiss team.
[0:54] Speaker 1: A lot of birdies, a lot of bogeys. To the
[0:56] Speaker 1: next to Mr. B, we got one of the biggest
[0:58] Speaker 1: legends of the sports media game, Skip Bayless. On this
[1:05] Speaker 1: side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from
[1:06] Speaker 1: Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin. And last
[1:13] Speaker 1: but not least, the man they call Cemetery Larry, NCAA
[1:18] Speaker 1: champion of the world, Rashad McCants.
[1:24] Speaker 3: Finish him.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Showing love to Rick Vaughn, one of my favorite pitchers.
[1:28] Speaker 3: Oh, you like it?
[1:30] Speaker 1: Before he played at Cleveland, he was in the California
[1:32] Speaker 1: Penal League.
[1:32] Speaker 3: He's the only Cleveland team I respect.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Shout out to Joe Boo as well. Pedro Serrano and
[1:41] Speaker 1: the rest of the gang. Pedro Serrano. We got a
[1:44] Speaker 1: lot to discuss. Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today.
[1:48] Speaker 1: The Wizards took A.J. DeBonsa with the number one pick
[1:51] Speaker 1: and re-upped with Trey Young on a four-year deal. Will
[1:55] Speaker 1: Washington finally end their playoff drought next season? They got
[1:59] Speaker 1: a good squad over there. We'll see what happens with AD,
[2:01] Speaker 1: but they looking pretty good heading into next season. So
[2:03] Speaker 1: this is one of the most loaded drafts in recent memory,
[2:07] Speaker 1: but which first round pick will have the biggest impact
[2:10] Speaker 1: in their rookie season? A lot of strong candidates, a
[2:13] Speaker 1: lot of people going to a lot of places where
[2:15] Speaker 1: they're going to get a lot of playing time. What happened?
[2:20] Speaker 3: Somebody's calling for Brandon. Josh Smith said you owe him
[2:29] Speaker 3: some money. Oh, yeah, let's do that.
[2:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that.
[2:34] Speaker 3: I got you. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, let's do that.
[2:38] Speaker 2: You ain't at me or.
[2:39] Speaker 3: Nothing, so hey. I've been busy. I've been busy. I've
[2:55] Speaker 3: been busy. I've been busy. Sixes and five.
[2:57] Speaker 1: Sixes, it was good.
[2:58] Speaker 3: It was good. Sixes and five.
[2:59] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
[3:01] Speaker 3: And you know what you said about Cleveland. Crazy. Spurs.
[3:05] Speaker 3: Dominic Ryan, one of the most down running. I look
[3:10] Speaker 3: at y'all, you got a Knicks jersey on. What happened?
[3:13] Speaker 3: That shit happened fast.
[3:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:15] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[3:16] Speaker 3: My boy, Jordan Clarkson. You know, when I came out there,
[3:17] Speaker 3: you know, I introduced you to him. Yeah, you know.
[3:20] Speaker 3: You know, when I came to New York, I introduced
[3:21] Speaker 3: you to him. Hey, man, we're in the middle of
[3:23] Speaker 3: the show, man. Look, I told you I was going
[3:25] Speaker 3: to let you get out of there. Everybody's ducking you.
[3:27] Speaker 3: You say, oh, you know, boy, I got you. Come
[3:31] Speaker 3: on here.
[3:31] Speaker 6: Come on here.
[3:32] Speaker 3: We can get in. He said, take me out. New York, man.
[3:38] Speaker 3: Josh Smith, man.
[3:39] Speaker 2: All right, man.
[3:40] Speaker 3: Little Steven.
[3:41] Speaker 2: Hmm.
[3:45] Speaker 3: Oh if they win I'll take them if who won
[3:46] Speaker 3: the Knicks the Knicks oh okay Josh Smith.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Make an impromptu FaceTime in the arena.
[3:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, he made me promise to hit him up, man,
[3:59] Speaker 3: and make sure he get his little noble in. I'm
[4:03] Speaker 3: waiting on him to come to L.A. He said he's
[4:05] Speaker 3: coming to BET weekend, so I guess this weekend. Oh, perfect. Perfect.
[4:09] Speaker 3: Your favorite. Perfect. My favorite. Well, I know ain't nobody
[4:13] Speaker 3: from there going to be over there, so yeah, he's.
[4:15] Speaker 5: Going to be out.
[4:15] Speaker 1: Did I hear some Baby Boy slander recently? You're not
[4:17] Speaker 1: rolling with the TV version of Baby Boy?
[4:19] Speaker 3: A BET staple?
[4:20] Speaker 2: No.
[4:21] Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't either. It takes three hours to watch
[4:23] Speaker 3: Baby Boy on BET. That's the best part. You get
[4:24] Speaker 3: three hours of Baby Boy. No, of unnecessary commercials. Unnecessary commercials.
[4:30] Speaker 3: Timely break.
[4:31] Speaker 1: It's commercials we didn't even know they had.
[4:34] Speaker 6: Watching movies on regular is whack.
[4:38] Speaker 3: Netflix. Now, here's to you, Wade. HBO. But go ahead. Continue.
[4:41] Speaker 1: My bad for interrupting. And our final topic of the day,
[4:44] Speaker 1: the Bucs. Sent Giannis to the heat in a blockbuster trade.
[4:47] Speaker 1: How much does the Greek freak move the needle for
[4:50] Speaker 1: Miami and the East? He got to play more than
[4:52] Speaker 1: 36 games. I know that. We will see if he
[4:54] Speaker 1: gets it done. They did the Nassus dirty. Let's see
[4:57] Speaker 1: if they got a spot for him. But before we
[4:58] Speaker 1: get into all that, this show is brought to you
[5:00] Speaker 1: by Underdog. Underdog's available.
[5:02] Speaker 6: One thing I know for sure. Pat ain't going for
[5:05] Speaker 6: that shit.
[5:06] Speaker 3: I'm bringing the brother.
[5:07] Speaker 6: I can guarantee you that shit.
[5:10] Speaker 3: For Giannis?
[5:11] Speaker 6: Pat ain't going for that.
[5:12] Speaker 3: That's my brother.
[5:13] Speaker 2: He live here.
[5:13] Speaker 3: Cool. He live here.
[5:15] Speaker 2: Cool.
[5:16] Speaker 6: He live in an apartment with you right across the street.
[5:18] Speaker 3: We're brothers. We're happy. Every single day. Every color. Pat,
[5:22] Speaker 3: y'all need one? Y'all need one?
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[6:17] Speaker 1: looking good.
[6:20] Speaker 2: Changed your name to Pepper Brandt. Yeah, Candyman.
[6:23] Speaker 1: Purple KD, Swag. Yeah, you're welcome.
[6:28] Speaker 2: He can't say, did I see him back there? That's
[6:30] Speaker 2: what he was talking about.
[6:31] Speaker 3: Yeah. That purple stuff.
[6:34] Speaker 4: Perfect segue. You know, he was talking about the Knicks.
[6:37] Speaker 4: Brandon got to take people to Nobles.
[6:39] Speaker 2: Got a little date.
[6:41] Speaker 3: Got a little date. A little date. A little date.
[6:45] Speaker 2: Okay.
[6:45] Speaker 3: A little date. Got the word hitting me up. Got
[6:49] Speaker 3: the word hitting me up. He ain't answering.
[6:51] Speaker 1: You need to hit me up.
[6:53] Speaker 3: I'm going to get him. We're going to trap him.
[6:55] Speaker 2: He didn't even call. That's the crazy part. He didn't
[6:57] Speaker 2: even call.
[6:57] Speaker 1: He didn't even 19 purple stuff. Shout out to Nike
[6:59] Speaker 1: Hibbit Sports.
[7:00] Speaker 3: No, shout out Josh, though. That's the homie.
[7:02] Speaker 1: Swaggy P. I need a pair of those. Hibbit Sports,
[7:06] Speaker 1: I need a pair of those. I'm pretty sure you
[7:07] Speaker 1: got them, Joe.
[7:08] Speaker 3: We'll see. I'm merely a host.
[7:10] Speaker 1: I'm not plugged. I'm pretty sure you got them. I
[7:12] Speaker 1: can make a phone call or two. We'll see. Those
[7:15] Speaker 1: are the best commercials right now. We'll see if the
[7:17] Speaker 1: shoe fairy comes through. But let's get into the NBA draft.
[7:21] Speaker 1: First round of the NBA draft went down last night
[7:23] Speaker 1: at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn as 30 young men
[7:26] Speaker 1: realized their dream of becoming an NBA player. Round two
[7:29] Speaker 1: will take place tonight. Draft began as we all expected
[7:32] Speaker 1: with the Wizards taking A.J. DeBonsa with the number one pick.
[7:36] Speaker 1: Take a listen.
[7:37] Speaker 7: With the first pick in the 2026 NBA draft, the
[7:42] Speaker 7: Washington Wizards select Anise DeBonsa Jr.
[7:45] Speaker 5: From Brigham Young University.
[7:50] Speaker 3: The debate, the conversation, it's over.
[7:55] Speaker 7: In a class that's been touted as one of the
[7:57] Speaker 7: deepest in recent memory, it is Anise A.J. DeBonsa, the
[8:02] Speaker 7: freshman out of BYU that the Washington Wizards select number
[8:06] Speaker 7: one overall.
[8:08] Speaker 1: Shout out Anise DeBonsa Jr., son of Anise DeBonsa Sr.
[8:13] Speaker 1: So DeBonsa led the nation in scoring in his lone
[8:15] Speaker 1: season at BYU, first freshman to do it since his
[8:18] Speaker 1: current Wizards teammate Trey Young DeMansa also set a freshman
[8:21] Speaker 1: record with six 35-point games. So after becoming the Wizards'
[8:25] Speaker 1: record seventh number one pick in franchise history and the
[8:28] Speaker 1: third in the modern era, joining Kwame Brown and John Wall,
[8:31] Speaker 1: DeMansa offered these thoughts.
[8:33] Speaker 8: Being the number one pick, it just meant a lot
[8:35] Speaker 8: to me. Obviously, me being number one throughout all my
[8:38] Speaker 8: high school career, I definitely wanted to be a staple,
[8:40] Speaker 8: to be number one pick in the NBA draft and
[8:42] Speaker 8: be in the same conversation with LeBron James, Cooper Fly,
[8:45] Speaker 8: and obviously guys like that.
[8:46] Speaker 3: So I think I bring versatility.
[8:48] Speaker 8: Obviously, them re-signing Trey, Having AD, I mean, I think
[8:51] Speaker 8: I could just fit in as like an off-ball guy
[8:53] Speaker 8: that can just score in different ways, score in transition,
[8:56] Speaker 8: score off the catch, score off the dribble. But also just,
[8:58] Speaker 8: I mean, they challenged me when they talked to me saying, like,
[9:00] Speaker 8: if we pick you, we want you to play defense
[9:01] Speaker 8: 94 feet and pick up.
[9:03] Speaker 3: So I definitely bring that, too.
[9:04] Speaker 8: I mean, I know I have a lot of work
[9:05] Speaker 8: to do, but obviously this night is just a celebration
[9:09] Speaker 8: of all the hard work.
[9:10] Speaker 3: That I've done in the past.
[9:10] Speaker 8: So tonight I'm going to celebrate, but, you know, I
[9:12] Speaker 8: got to get on the plane tomorrow morning, and I'll
[9:14] Speaker 8: probably work out tomorrow if I can, if they let me.
[9:19] Speaker 1: I'm sure they let you. They're going to put you
[9:20] Speaker 1: to work.
[9:21] Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to work.
[9:22] Speaker 3: They're going to work you.
[9:22] Speaker 2: Going to turn the big rocks into little rocks.
[9:24] Speaker 1: Little rocks.
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[9:49] Speaker 4: Why did they like you? Well, you know, we've seen history,
[9:53] Speaker 4: you know. The Withers finally did something right. I thought
[9:57] Speaker 4: they was going to be the Wizards and make a mistake,
[10:02] Speaker 4: but you have to go with AJ. He's got potential
[10:07] Speaker 4: to be a megastar in this league. He could change
[10:09] Speaker 4: the program, the dynamic of the whole Washington, D.C. I
[10:15] Speaker 4: think it brings fans to the arena.
[10:18] Speaker 2: It brings... You know, TV brings everything.
[10:22] Speaker 4: Because he has it. He has it. He's a star
[10:25] Speaker 4: in the making. He has the it. You see him everywhere.
[10:29] Speaker 4: People know his name. And he has the game. Game-wise, 6'8, 6'9, could.
[10:36] Speaker 2: Dribble, shoot.
[10:38] Speaker 4: It's the safe, but it is the.
[10:43] Speaker 2: Best thing the Wizards did. They're not looking to be
[10:45] Speaker 2: the AFCs no more.
[10:47] Speaker 4: They're looking to Changed the whole program around, so I'm
[10:50] Speaker 4: glad they finally did something right.
[10:54] Speaker 1: They finally did something right. Trying to get out of
[10:59] Speaker 1: that basement. Getting to rise with Mr. B. His reaction
[11:04] Speaker 1: to the Wizards, taking A.J. DeBonsa number one overall.
[11:09] Speaker 3: I think it's a great pick.
[11:10] Speaker 9: He's going into a situation where they are going to
[11:13] Speaker 9: be winning. They should be top six in the East.
[11:17] Speaker 9: with his ability to be able to create shots, also
[11:20] Speaker 9: being able to fit in there with A.D. if he's
[11:23] Speaker 9: still there, Trey Young, and Star. So defensively, they'll be
[11:27] Speaker 9: able to help. A lot of his buckets in college
[11:29] Speaker 9: was to the rim, so 40%, 60% of them he made,
[11:33] Speaker 9: led NCAA in scoring, and he has megastar potential.
[11:38] Speaker 3: He's NBA ready.
[11:40] Speaker 9: He can score from anywhere, mid-level, He shot 33% from
[11:45] Speaker 9: the three, but he has the mechanics, so I think
[11:47] Speaker 9: he will be a great shooter.
[11:49] Speaker 3: And his flaws is off-the-ball defense.
[11:52] Speaker 9: As you see, you talked about challenging defensively, but like
[11:55] Speaker 9: I said, I think with AD and Starr, it'll just
[11:59] Speaker 9: help him out a lot. But I think he's in
[12:00] Speaker 9: a great situation, and I'm very excited for them.
[12:02] Speaker 1: AJ, been out here in L.A. putting a lot of
[12:04] Speaker 1: work at the Red Bull Performance Center with my guys
[12:06] Speaker 1: at Gonzales, amongst others. So I've been working on that jumper,
[12:08] Speaker 1: working on that three ball. obviously point of emphasis as
[12:11] Speaker 1: he starts his rookie season, but let's shift over to
[12:13] Speaker 1: this side of the couch. Another former number one pick,
[12:17] Speaker 1: Kenya Martin, A.J. DeBonsa joins those prestigious, illustrious club. Number
[12:22] Speaker 1: one overall picks in the NBA draft. What do you
[12:24] Speaker 1: think A.J. DeBonsa will bring to the Wizards?
[12:27] Speaker 6: First and foremost, congratulations to the young man joining that
[12:31] Speaker 6: elite club. There's only a certain amount of us on
[12:36] Speaker 6: this planet that can say that, and he joins that,
[12:38] Speaker 6: so congratulations on that.
[12:40] Speaker 5: Banner.
[12:41] Speaker 6: No, just the guy. I think he's going to fit
[12:44] Speaker 6: in well with a guy like Trey Young. Trey is
[12:46] Speaker 6: a willing passer as well as a good scorer, but
[12:49] Speaker 6: he's a willing passer. And that's what a young guy
[12:52] Speaker 6: could benefit from coming to the league. That was aggressive
[12:55] Speaker 6: college player, right? Them coming into a situation where he
[12:59] Speaker 6: won't be handicapped or limited in his aggression, right? And
[13:06] Speaker 6: if AD is there, that's going to help him as well.
[13:09] Speaker 6: Having a guy that's won, a guy who former number
[13:12] Speaker 6: one pick as well, teach him the ropes on how
[13:16] Speaker 6: to approach it, right? I think it helps in that
[13:20] Speaker 6: manner to have someone that's experienced those things already. We'll
[13:24] Speaker 6: see how that plays out. But I think it's a
[13:26] Speaker 6: good situation, man. Trey being there, rearing up. Like Brandon said,
[13:30] Speaker 6: they still got Sar. They picked him, what, two or
[13:32] Speaker 6: a couple years ago. He's still coming into his own.
[13:35] Speaker 6: Having a young core. with some guys that knows how
[13:38] Speaker 6: to play. Um, now that's on the front office to
[13:42] Speaker 6: do their job and get that bench to where they
[13:44] Speaker 6: can compete in the East, which is wide open steel,
[13:48] Speaker 6: even though the Knicks just won it coming out of
[13:50] Speaker 6: the East. I think the East is still wide open
[13:53] Speaker 6: in every regard to be a better team, right. To
[13:55] Speaker 6: be a better team than you were and to compete,
[13:57] Speaker 6: like Brandon said, to finish in the top six, um,
[14:00] Speaker 6: with the right Ross, I don't think it'd be hard
[14:02] Speaker 6: to do in the East, but I'm excited for the
[14:04] Speaker 6: young man. Um, Scoring 25 at night in college is
[14:07] Speaker 6: not easy. That means you know how to play. Shooting 33%
[14:11] Speaker 6: from three is, that's a mere jump shot in the league, right? So,
[14:16] Speaker 6: ain't that far off. So, we'll see, man, if it translates. But, no,
[14:20] Speaker 6: I'm excited for what the Wizards are doing. I'm excited
[14:22] Speaker 6: for the young man, for his future and what he
[14:24] Speaker 6: brings to the NBA. Seems like he's a good kid,
[14:28] Speaker 6: good upbringing. He's got all the right things. So, it's
[14:33] Speaker 6: going to pan out for him.
[14:34] Speaker 2: I'm excited.
[14:35] Speaker 1: Alex Starr obviously suffered that fractured right foot during the
[14:38] Speaker 1: offseason workout but expected to make a full recovery in
[14:40] Speaker 1: time for this season and be back in the starting
[14:42] Speaker 1: lineup next season. Meshad, let's move on to you. Looking
[14:45] Speaker 1: at A.J. DeBonta, wasn't really much of a debate. Obviously him,
[14:48] Speaker 1: Darren Peterson were kind of the talk for that spot,
[14:50] Speaker 1: but it seemed like he was going to hold it
[14:52] Speaker 1: down and be number one. Ended up coming true. What
[14:54] Speaker 1: do you think he will bring to the Wizards?
[14:57] Speaker 3: Elite talent. Potential Hall of Fame talent. Sometimes when you
[15:01] Speaker 3: can see these number one picks come in, you know
[15:03] Speaker 3: what to expect right away. And I think with his
[15:06] Speaker 3: body of work, complete, played all 35 games in college,
[15:10] Speaker 3: shows his durability, shows a little bit of what his
[15:15] Speaker 3: dominance looks like when he's talking about leading the league
[15:17] Speaker 3: in scoring, leading the country in scoring, say that. And
[15:21] Speaker 3: being 6'8, very versatile, can guard one through four, fast, explosive.
[15:28] Speaker 3: You're talking about being able to have the instincts to
[15:30] Speaker 3: get the different shots, having counter moves in college to
[15:33] Speaker 3: be able to go to. picking the right school to
[15:36] Speaker 3: be able to showcase your talents. I think a lot
[15:39] Speaker 3: of kids pick the wrong school when they have the
[15:41] Speaker 3: type of talent that he has. It gets diluted and
[15:45] Speaker 3: drowned out because you have to play system basketball. I
[15:48] Speaker 3: think that was Darren Peterson's issue is that he played
[15:50] Speaker 3: more system ball and wasn't able to showcase much of
[15:55] Speaker 3: his talent. And then the injuries and all of those
[15:58] Speaker 3: things that was happening with him. But A.J. is, you know,
[16:01] Speaker 3: I think he's T-Mac on– HGH. I think that he's
[16:07] Speaker 3: one of these kids that's going to, from where he
[16:09] Speaker 3: is now, he's going to extend his abilities. You're talking
[16:13] Speaker 3: about efficiency, sharpen your tools, becoming a more effective jump shooter,
[16:19] Speaker 3: becoming a more get-to-the-basket, dunk-on guys, and he gets his
[16:22] Speaker 3: teammates involved. He has no problem deferring. The biggest game
[16:26] Speaker 3: of the season against Kansas, he had 17 points, and
[16:30] Speaker 3: he definitely deferred to one of his teammates who had
[16:32] Speaker 3: 33 points. And that's probably going to be the only
[16:36] Speaker 3: knock on him is trying to figure out if he
[16:37] Speaker 3: shows up in the biggest shining moments in the NBA.
[16:42] Speaker 3: But word on the street is that other guys reclass
[16:45] Speaker 3: to avoid him. And I think you look at the
[16:48] Speaker 3: last two seasons, you got Dylan Harper, Cooper Flagg. Now
[16:51] Speaker 3: you got Darren Peterson and A.J. DeBonsa. You got a
[16:54] Speaker 3: bunch of guys who can actually play. And it's up
[16:58] Speaker 3: in the air to see who's who's the next top
[17:00] Speaker 3: tier guy. And I think A.J. has enough talent to
[17:03] Speaker 3: surpass all of them. And it's just about now the
[17:06] Speaker 3: Washington Wizards getting their shit together and not having them
[17:09] Speaker 3: at the bottom of the barrel like Dallas had Cooper
[17:12] Speaker 3: and being able to show that he can do something
[17:15] Speaker 3: on a bigger level than just play.
[17:17] Speaker 2: At the bottom.
[17:18] Speaker 3: All right, let's shift over to this side, Skip.
[17:21] Speaker 1: Very socially active during the 2026 NBA draft. I saw
[17:25] Speaker 1: a lot of your tweets popping up on the TM.
[17:26] Speaker 1: What do you think about the Wizards taking A.J. DeBonson
[17:29] Speaker 1: number one overall?
[17:30] Speaker 3: Oh.
[17:35] Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil the AJ party that has
[17:37] Speaker 5: started here because to all your points, I think he's
[17:43] Speaker 5: really a great kid with a big personality and all
[17:47] Speaker 5: that is perfect for the Wizards in their current state
[17:52] Speaker 5: because he's going to bring people through the turnstiles who
[17:55] Speaker 5: haven't been coming. So I appreciate all that, but I
[18:02] Speaker 5: don't see Megastar And I don't see Wizards being a
[18:06] Speaker 5: playoff team. And I felt a little sorry for him
[18:12] Speaker 5: last night that he got picked by Washington. And again,
[18:18] Speaker 5: Swiggy played there. But it's just been kind of losersville
[18:22] Speaker 5: for a long time. And it has this sort of
[18:26] Speaker 5: stench around it.
[18:28] Speaker 2: And now.
[18:30] Speaker 5: Now you're betting on Anthony Davis, who's 33 years of age,
[18:33] Speaker 5: and it seems like he's 53 to me. And I've
[18:36] Speaker 5: been on his bandwagon before, and I've tried to hang
[18:38] Speaker 5: on to the back end of the bandwagon. And then
[18:41] Speaker 5: I just look before the show started, and if my
[18:43] Speaker 5: math is correct, over the last three seasons, Anthony Davis
[18:47] Speaker 5: has averaged playing 24 games out of 82 for three years,
[18:51] Speaker 5: not for two or one. It's three years of 24
[18:54] Speaker 5: games a year. It ain't right, man. And I try
[18:59] Speaker 5: to say, yeah, but because we know what he can
[19:01] Speaker 5: do when he's right, but I just don't trust him,
[19:07] Speaker 5: and I've never been a big Trey Young guy. I
[19:11] Speaker 5: grew up in Oklahoma City, and he played at Oklahoma
[19:13] Speaker 5: and led the nation scoring and assists, and yet he's
[19:18] Speaker 5: just so little. He is little and slight. He's not
[19:24] Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson. He's not. He doesn't pack a punch. He
[19:29] Speaker 5: doesn't come.
[19:30] Speaker 3: With authority, he.
[19:33] Speaker 5: Is, I think Kenyon said, he's, I'll go so far
[19:37] Speaker 5: as to say he's a great passer. Like he is
[19:40] Speaker 5: a generational passer of the basketball. But look at the
[19:45] Speaker 5: three of the last four years that he played the
[19:47] Speaker 5: full season. He led the league. in turnovers. So he
[19:52] Speaker 5: will try any pass at any moment. And it seems
[19:55] Speaker 5: like half of them get intercepted or tipped or whatever
[19:59] Speaker 5: and turn into turnovers. And Trey Young is a 35%
[20:05] Speaker 5: career three-point shooter and high volume. He's going to take
[20:10] Speaker 5: eight or nine a game. And it's inefficient basketball. It's
[20:14] Speaker 5: hard to win. It's why Atlanta said no to Trey
[20:17] Speaker 5: Young finally. They just said, that's enough of that. And
[20:20] Speaker 5: so if you're betting on AD and Trey Young and
[20:24] Speaker 5: Alex Saar, he's coming off the foot, but he's coming along.
[20:28] Speaker 5: He was 16-7 last year. Not bad, but But all
[20:33] Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's like, AJ, save us. Take us
[20:36] Speaker 5: over and lead us back to the... Not that they
[20:39] Speaker 5: ever really got to the... It's been decades and decades
[20:43] Speaker 5: since they got to the promised land. But still, I'm
[20:49] Speaker 5: just not sure. I think he's going to be a
[20:52] Speaker 5: very nice NBA player, but I worry about... if you
[20:56] Speaker 5: throw a kid with a big personality into what could
[21:01] Speaker 5: turn into a sorry situation, does it start to erode
[21:05] Speaker 5: his enthusiasm? And does he start to feel like he's
[21:09] Speaker 5: playing in Losersville again? You know, like we're going back
[21:14] Speaker 5: to that. And so, again, I don't want to poop
[21:18] Speaker 5: the party, poop on the party. But it's just like, man,
[21:22] Speaker 5: I don't know. And I was on record before the draft.
[21:26] Speaker 5: Darren Peterson, I'm sure we're going to talk about him
[21:28] Speaker 5: at length, but he's going to be a more impactful
[21:31] Speaker 5: NBA player than A.J.
[21:33] Speaker 3: And A.J.
[21:33] Speaker 5: Is going to be a nice NBA player. And I
[21:35] Speaker 5: won't be surprised if he makes some all-star teams. I
[21:38] Speaker 5: also won't be surprised if Darren Peterson leads the league
[21:41] Speaker 5: in scoring two or three times. Because offensively... Over A.J.?
[21:46] Speaker 5: Over A.J. I just... Darren Peterson is it to me.
[21:50] Speaker 3: But what's the difference between the poop party? If the
[21:54] Speaker 3: poop party is going to be because of who was
[21:56] Speaker 3: on the team, it doesn't matter who was drafted, right?
[21:58] Speaker 5: No, it doesn't matter. Unless you tell me you drafted Jordan.
[22:04] Speaker 3: So you think Darren Peterson is a better scorer than A.J.
[22:09] Speaker 5: Do I think Darren Peterson is?
[22:10] Speaker 3: Is he a better scorer?
[22:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, because he's a way better three-point shooter at this stage.
[22:15] Speaker 3: Why?
[22:16] Speaker 2: I think so right now.
[22:17] Speaker 3: Why? He led the country in scoring.
[22:19] Speaker 2: Why?
[22:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, explain. Just from a purist standpoint.
[22:24] Speaker 2: Okay.
[22:24] Speaker 3: Like, what is it that Darren Peterson does that's so
[22:28] Speaker 3: much more better than.
[22:29] Speaker 5: … Every level. And at the rim, Darren Peterson is
[22:33] Speaker 5: both hands like ambidextrous.
[22:35] Speaker 3: He doesn't post up.
[22:37] Speaker 5: But he drives it like crazy.
[22:39] Speaker 3: He doesn't handle the ball off the pick and roll
[22:42] Speaker 3: the way A.J.
[22:42] Speaker 2: Does.
[22:43] Speaker 3: Okay. He doesn't. Okay. I'm not … He shoots the
[22:47] Speaker 3: three better. It's probably the only thing. But he has
[22:50] Speaker 3: the mechanics to be a great player. Yeah, that's what
[22:52] Speaker 3: I'm saying.
[22:53] Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
[22:53] Speaker 3: Hell yeah. But he still let the NCAA in scoring.
[22:57] Speaker 3: And his mid-range is elite already, Kevin Durant type of league. Oh,
[23:01] Speaker 3: Peterson's is too. Not like that. Not like A.J. Mid-range? Yes, A.J.
[23:06] Speaker 2: Mid-range?
[23:06] Speaker 3: Has y'all seen Peterson? Does being 6'8 matter?
[23:09] Speaker 2: Has y'all seen Peterson?
[23:10] Speaker 3: Yes. Does being 6'8 matter? I'm not saying he's better.
[23:12] Speaker 3: I like A.J. I'm asking, does being 6'8 matter?
[23:17] Speaker 2: I like A.J. I'm not saying.
[23:19] Speaker 3: It matters, right?
[23:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, but we're talking about a 6'5 guard.
[23:22] Speaker 3: In comparison to a 6'8. Who would you compare Peterson to? Kobe.
[23:28] Speaker 5: I don't think he's tall enough to be Kobe.
[23:30] Speaker 3: He's not good enough to be Kobe.
[23:32] Speaker 5: He's not good enough. I agree.
[23:33] Speaker 2: That's not good enough. I'd call him a little penny.
[23:36] Speaker 2: Penny Hardaway.
[23:37] Speaker 3: Maybe.
[23:38] Speaker 2: Again, taller. That's what I think.
[23:40] Speaker 3: It's Devin Booker to me.
[23:43] Speaker 6: Okay.
[23:43] Speaker 3: All right. Devin Booker. That works.
[23:46] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[23:46] Speaker 3: Like that. And if you want to really compare, I
[23:49] Speaker 3: feel like Ben McLemore, when he was at Kansas, similar seasons.
[23:53] Speaker 3: They had the similar season where you don't know how
[23:56] Speaker 3: good they are based on the system they're in. Ben
[23:59] Speaker 3: got to the Sacramento Kings and wasn't able to really
[24:02] Speaker 3: showcase his skill.
[24:03] Speaker 5: But he was just a shooter, a standstill shooter, like
[24:07] Speaker 5: a catching shooter.
[24:07] Speaker 3: He was athletic, too. He was athletic.
[24:09] Speaker 5: Man, not like this kid.
[24:11] Speaker 3: This kid has the first step.
[24:13] Speaker 1: He does.
[24:13] Speaker 3: He does. He does. I'm about to say, yeah. He
[24:16] Speaker 3: can play.
[24:16] Speaker 2: He can play.
[24:17] Speaker 3: And he's better than Ben. I don't think he's better
[24:20] Speaker 3: than Devin Booker.
[24:22] Speaker 5: Okay, Rashad, you being a Carolina guy, what was the
[24:25] Speaker 5: joke about Jordan when he was at Carolina? Only one
[24:27] Speaker 5: man in college basketball could stop Michael Jordan. It was
[24:30] Speaker 5: your coach, Dean Smith. Coach Dean Smith, yes. And he's
[24:43] Speaker 5: a nice guy, but he's a ridiculously tough guy. And
[24:47] Speaker 5: it is his way or the highway at Kansas. He
[24:50] Speaker 5: rules with the most iron fist in college basketball, even
[24:54] Speaker 5: though he comes across like he's a really good guy.
[24:57] Speaker 5: He's the man next door. No, he's not. And he
[25:00] Speaker 5: and Darren Peterson obviously started clashing from day one. And
[25:04] Speaker 5: I don't know if there was any NIL issue going on,
[25:07] Speaker 5: but there was playing, there were system issues where he
[25:12] Speaker 5: just saying, no, you have to do it this way.
[25:14] Speaker 5: And Darren Peterson's looking around saying, no, I'm way better
[25:18] Speaker 5: than anybody else.
[25:18] Speaker 3: On this floor right now. Let me do it.
[25:21] Speaker 5: And he still averaged 20 a game, but obviously he
[25:24] Speaker 5: started missing games and missing halves of games. And then
[25:27] Speaker 5: it disappointed me and did concern me that he blamed
[25:31] Speaker 5: it on creatine, which was absurd. It was absurd. It
[25:35] Speaker 5: wasn't anything to do with creatine. And to cramp from creatine, you.
[25:40] Speaker 2: You can have bad reactions to anything, you know.
[25:42] Speaker 3: Nah, but when you want to prove a point to
[25:44] Speaker 3: your coach, it's another thing, too. Yeah.
[25:46] Speaker 6: Well, you can't cramp from creatine if you ain't got
[25:48] Speaker 6: no body fat. Yeah.
[25:49] Speaker 2: Man, I.
[25:50] Speaker 6: Trust me.
[25:50] Speaker 1: I know a lot about.
[25:51] Speaker 3: You have to be heavy on water, too. But I'm saying...
[25:54] Speaker 3: You have to drink.
[25:55] Speaker 2: A lot of water.
[25:55] Speaker 5: But if you just hydrate normally, just routinely, you won't cramp.
[25:59] Speaker 6: What 18-year-old kid is... properly hydrating, Skip?
[26:04] Speaker 5: You got me.
[26:04] Speaker 3: You would know.
[26:05] Speaker 2: I wouldn't know.
[26:05] Speaker 3: I'm saying, but what 18-year-old kid is properly hydrating?
[26:08] Speaker 5: I just don't.
[26:09] Speaker 3: Well, you at Kansas, it ain't like they ain't at
[26:12] Speaker 3: a prestigious university. Yeah, with the new trainers.
[26:17] Speaker 6: How much, okay, they had school around them people for four,
[26:20] Speaker 6: five hours a day, man. Like, kids on that game, listen,
[26:24] Speaker 6: he is spending more time in front of that game
[26:26] Speaker 6: than he is in the gym, and guarantee he ain't
[26:28] Speaker 6: fucking sitting there drinking water as he... He locked into
[26:31] Speaker 6: that goddamn screen.
[26:32] Speaker 3: After the first time, bro. After the first issue. After
[26:35] Speaker 3: the first issue, we're telling you we need more.
[26:38] Speaker 6: Don't forget, you know, I had one of them young
[26:40] Speaker 6: dudes that played game all day, worked out, basketball, come home,
[26:44] Speaker 6: and I ain't.
[26:44] Speaker 3: Seen him in motherfucking seven hours.
[26:46] Speaker 6: He ain't came out that room in seven hours.
[26:50] Speaker 3: Had to go in that bitch and check on him. Like, hey,
[26:51] Speaker 3: you all right here, bro? Who, Peter? KJ. No, I'm
[26:54] Speaker 3: just saying, though. You know what I'm saying?
[26:55] Speaker 6: As far as 18-year-olds hydrating properly is what I'm saying.
[26:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
[26:58] Speaker 6: Like, so he can't crap for kids is what I'm saying.
[27:01] Speaker 3: But look, we talking about, like, the medical staff at
[27:04] Speaker 3: Kansas after the first issue is, this is what you
[27:07] Speaker 3: need to do for us not to do this again.
[27:09] Speaker 2: Didn't he go to the hospital?
[27:10] Speaker 3: That's what they're saying. If that was the case, it's
[27:13] Speaker 3: like you've already been warned how to do it and
[27:15] Speaker 3: how to deal with it, so it shouldn't be a
[27:17] Speaker 3: reoccurring thing if you know. But if you keep feeding
[27:20] Speaker 3: your kids, you know. But if you still feed me.
[27:22] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[27:23] Speaker 3: The school is getting.
[27:24] Speaker 6: No, the way people are giving it to him, he
[27:27] Speaker 6: ain't going to buy it on his own. Ain't no
[27:29] Speaker 6: way people that's lifting will listen. We never we took
[27:31] Speaker 6: careers in three four times a week when I was
[27:33] Speaker 6: in Cincinnati We never took we took it through and
[27:36] Speaker 6: I got to the line and they gave us vitamins I.
[27:38] Speaker 3: Got to the league.
[27:39] Speaker 6: I was 230 pounds three and a half percent body fat.
[27:43] Speaker 3: Okay, so why don't you buy Chris on the cramping good?
[27:47] Speaker 3: Oh should have been somebody else on the team but.
[27:49] Speaker 6: They bought and built like him products what I'm saying
[27:51] Speaker 6: it all depends on the person named built like him
[27:54] Speaker 6: and He probably don't retain water. Like me, I don't
[27:57] Speaker 6: retain water, right? I practice, I'm going to sweat. I'm
[28:00] Speaker 6: going to lose seven, eight pounds.
[28:02] Speaker 3: In one practice.
[28:03] Speaker 6: I'm going to skip this though, man. He probably don't
[28:05] Speaker 6: retain water. I'm not saying this, but he probably don't
[28:08] Speaker 6: retain water.
[28:09] Speaker 1: You don't know.
[28:09] Speaker 3: Because I've been in a coaching situation that if this
[28:13] Speaker 3: is accurate as far as the Bill Self being in
[28:15] Speaker 3: a clashing mode with him. I've been there. But I'm
[28:18] Speaker 3: not going to the hospital, though.
[28:20] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[28:21] Speaker 3: So we don't know what happened after that. I'm going
[28:24] Speaker 3: to the hospital to prove a point to the coach. No,
[28:26] Speaker 3: but we don't know what happened. That's what I don't get. No,
[28:29] Speaker 3: he said they were clashing.
[28:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[28:31] Speaker 3: So we don't know. He said he missed games, but
[28:33] Speaker 3: he went to the hospital on a full body cramp.
[28:35] Speaker 1: The full body cramp.
[28:36] Speaker 3: I'm not about to go to that point and be like,
[28:38] Speaker 3: I don't fuck with the coach. I'm just going to
[28:39] Speaker 3: the hospital. But that's the last situation. No, let's get shots.
[28:43] Speaker 2: No, let's. See? It was her.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Have any of you had a full body cramp?
[28:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, who had a full body cramp?
[28:49] Speaker 3: No, my legs used to lock up.
[28:50] Speaker 9: I've seen people have full body cramps after, like, training
[28:52] Speaker 9: camp in the league.
[28:53] Speaker 3: Yeah. No, for real. What you talking about? What you
[28:57] Speaker 3: talking about? I've seen dudes. I didn't see dudes lock up. No,
[28:59] Speaker 3: after training camp, like, my first. So we was two
[29:02] Speaker 3: of these. They was locked. Bro, couldn't move. Yes.
[29:06] Speaker 2: That's legs.
[29:07] Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about whole body. Whole body. I've seen
[29:10] Speaker 3: it as well. That's what I'm saying.
[29:12] Speaker 2: How's that getting back at the coach?
[29:13] Speaker 3: Like. Yeah, because that's the one time, right?
[29:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not playing.
[29:19] Speaker 3: Fuck this.
[29:21] Speaker 4: That's one time, right?
[29:24] Speaker 3: He was out multiple games. You're talking about one situation.
[29:28] Speaker 3: How many games did he miss? So he missed 11
[29:30] Speaker 3: of the first 27 games. Bro, what are you talking about?
[29:32] Speaker 3: He didn't do that 11 times? He didn't go to
[29:34] Speaker 3: the hospital and coach didn't. No, bro. It's a situation
[29:38] Speaker 3: just like you look back at Ben Simmons. So he
[29:41] Speaker 3: couldn't have been hurt. He couldn't have been hurt. Definitely.
[29:43] Speaker 3: But it wasn't revealed until the season was over. and
[29:51] Speaker 3: everyone was questioning his durability. Everybody's like, yo, we're not
[29:55] Speaker 3: betting on Darren Peterson because he can't be relied upon.
[29:59] Speaker 3: And then here comes the, this is why I wasn't playing.
[30:03] Speaker 3: When we were asking the questions the whole season, bro,
[30:06] Speaker 3: what's wrong with bro? What's going on? We don't know.
[30:09] Speaker 3: They don't want to tell you. We don't know.
[30:11] Speaker 6: And I'm a firm believer it ain't none of y'all
[30:13] Speaker 6: damn business.
[30:14] Speaker 3: So why is it our business at the end? Because
[30:17] Speaker 3: it's about to affect this draft. Exactly. So if you
[30:19] Speaker 3: would address it. If you would address it during the season.
[30:23] Speaker 3: It wouldn't affect you at all. Because we would know
[30:24] Speaker 3: why you're missing names. Try to figure it out.
[30:27] Speaker 6: You miss 11 names in the first 20? Let everybody speculate.
[30:31] Speaker 1: 27?
[30:31] Speaker 3: Let everybody speculate like y'all were doing.
[30:33] Speaker 2: Right.
[30:33] Speaker 3: But that affects you. Now you're not number one. Now
[30:36] Speaker 3: you're not number one. No, he's not number one because
[30:38] Speaker 3: the other dude was better.
[30:39] Speaker 2: Oh, no.
[30:40] Speaker 3: That's not what the argument was. But he's not number
[30:42] Speaker 3: one because the other guy is just better.
[30:45] Speaker 1: Like, A.J.
[30:45] Speaker 3: DeMansa is better than him. That's just what it is.
[30:47] Speaker 6: I think so. And so, therefore, like, it just, yeah,
[30:51] Speaker 6: he did all that. Everything that he did during the
[30:54] Speaker 6: year and all that, missing 11 of the first 27 games,
[30:56] Speaker 6: still is the number two pick in the NBA draft.
[30:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[30:59] Speaker 3: So, it ain't that goddamn detrimental.
[31:01] Speaker 5: Well, the Angels didn't think it was a big deal.
[31:03] Speaker 3: Right. So it ain't a big deal. Whatever it is,
[31:06] Speaker 3: it ain't a big deal.
[31:07] Speaker 9: But if he has a problem with systems and how
[31:09] Speaker 9: systems go, it is a big deal.
[31:12] Speaker 6: He's the number two pick in the draft. They will
[31:15] Speaker 6: cater to him.
[31:16] Speaker 3: In Utah, right? And they just had the number three
[31:18] Speaker 3: pick last year. Who said they didn't want to be there?
[31:20] Speaker 3: Number five. Number five.
[31:21] Speaker 9: But what I'm saying is you're still a rookie. You're
[31:24] Speaker 9: going to somewhere where you have a system. So if
[31:26] Speaker 9: this system don't work, then what? They ain't got no
[31:28] Speaker 9: system in Utah.
[31:28] Speaker 6: They ain't got no system in Utah.
[31:31] Speaker 2: They don't.
[31:32] Speaker 1: Shout out to Brigham.
[31:33] Speaker 4: They don't have a system.
[31:35] Speaker 3: Let them grow. He shoot it every time. Keontae George
[31:39] Speaker 3: shoot it every time. Ace Bailey shoot it every time.
[31:41] Speaker 3: Lord Marketing want to shoot it every time. They don't
[31:43] Speaker 3: have a system. Kowski want to shoot it all the time.
[31:45] Speaker 6: Since the bar going to come off the bench, he
[31:46] Speaker 6: want to shoot it.
[31:47] Speaker 3: Listen, ain't no system in that motherfucker. It's whoever get it, go.
[31:49] Speaker 2: That's right.
[31:50] Speaker 3: I watched that shit for like 20 games before.
[31:52] Speaker 1: It is. Whoever get it, go. We're going to talk
[31:55] Speaker 1: Peterson just. If I was the Wizards, I would trade
[31:58] Speaker 1: AD right now, though. A.D.? You got to trade A.D.
[32:02] Speaker 3: Right now. For who?
[32:03] Speaker 4: Because it's going to be a problem during the season.
[32:06] Speaker 4: It's going to be trade talks and do the Wizards.
[32:08] Speaker 4: Ain't nobody taking that right now? He got one more year?
[32:11] Speaker 1: One year and a player.
[32:12] Speaker 3: If I'm A.D., I'm killing it right now.
[32:13] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[32:15] Speaker 1: I mean, they'd have to make a move before the
[32:17] Speaker 1: deadline to run into a situation where.
[32:19] Speaker 4: Do you want to deal with that trade rumors all
[32:21] Speaker 4: year with the Wizards?
[32:22] Speaker 3: It's the Wizards. Then what?
[32:25] Speaker 6: It ain't a possibility for this man to come out
[32:28] Speaker 6: and play well. We understand what he has been. But
[32:31] Speaker 6: he'll walk and double double two blocks a night.
[32:34] Speaker 3: But does that take away from AJ? No. After all
[32:39] Speaker 3: that being said, you still think Darren Peterson is the better?
[32:43] Speaker 5: Absolutely I do. Like times ten I do. And I
[32:48] Speaker 5: like AJ. This Darren Peterson, I watched him some in
[32:52] Speaker 5: high school and The first step is just ridiculous.
[32:56] Speaker 3: You know who the number one player in high school was, right?
[33:00] Speaker 2: A.J. A.J.
[33:01] Speaker 1: DeBonson.
[33:02] Speaker 3: I got it.
[33:03] Speaker 6: A.J.
[33:03] Speaker 3: Is the guy. And they all know it. So the
[33:07] Speaker 3: fact that Darren Peterson would say, man, I'm disappointed that
[33:10] Speaker 3: I wasn't the number one pick has nothing to do with,
[33:13] Speaker 3: like he just said, the guy that was better than him.
[33:16] Speaker 3: Got picked number one.
[33:17] Speaker 1: Well, he thinks he's.
[33:17] Speaker 3: Better than Aja. Is it better or is it better?
[33:19] Speaker 3: They've gone head to head.
[33:21] Speaker 2: Six, nine.
[33:21] Speaker 3: Well, we about to find out. Upside means everything. We
[33:24] Speaker 3: about to find out. Y'all both in the league. So,
[33:26] Speaker 3: let's talk about this Wizards squad. It depends on, like, listen, man.
[33:28] Speaker 6: We're talking about two franchises here that they went to.
[33:32] Speaker 6: One in the Washington Wizards, one in the Utah Jazz. That,
[33:35] Speaker 6: as in most recent history, haven't been anything to write
[33:39] Speaker 6: home about.
[33:40] Speaker 2: Well, that's why they, yeah.
[33:42] Speaker 6: Washington did something before trading for Trae Young to try
[33:47] Speaker 6: to change the narrative with their franchise, right? That started
[33:51] Speaker 6: with Trae Young, Sarlash, then Trae Young, and now Anthony
[33:55] Speaker 6: Davis thing. I think Anthony Anthony Davis helps. We don't
[33:58] Speaker 6: know what, we all know that, what that is. We
[34:01] Speaker 6: all know that. But when healthy, when healthy, walking double-double
[34:05] Speaker 6: two blocks a night, we know that. Yeah. Utah. We
[34:08] Speaker 6: don't know where they're heading as far as a franchise.
[34:11] Speaker 6: They're just getting high picks, accumulating talent. We don't know
[34:14] Speaker 6: where it's heading.
[34:16] Speaker 5: But there's a bunch of talent.
[34:17] Speaker 3: There's a bunch of.
[34:18] Speaker 6: Talent, yes, but does that talent gel together, play well together?
[34:22] Speaker 6: All those things, right? Absolutely a bunch of talent. We
[34:25] Speaker 6: don't know where they're at. They've been in the basement
[34:27] Speaker 6: with all that previous talent, still been in the basement.
[34:32] Speaker 6: So those kids are going to two franchises that could
[34:36] Speaker 6: either hinder their pad or, but as of late, we
[34:43] Speaker 6: all know what they have been. So let's see what
[34:45] Speaker 6: it is, right? Let's see how they're approaching their rookie year, right?
[34:50] Speaker 3: We don't know. AJ's in a better situation. I don't
[34:53] Speaker 3: get way better. Because what they just did to Ace Bailey,
[34:56] Speaker 3: they barely let Ace Bailey play all year until the end.
[34:59] Speaker 4: Are these guys somebody you're handing your team over, though?
[35:02] Speaker 4: You're handing your whole franchise over to AJ?
[35:04] Speaker 3: To AJ? You don't have to. I mean, by the
[35:07] Speaker 3: end of the year, I believe so. They got four years.
[35:11] Speaker 3: They got four years now. That's why I say get
[35:13] Speaker 3: rid of A.D.
[35:14] Speaker 6: They got a point guard.
[35:15] Speaker 3: Oh, so you're saying get rid of A.D. to allow A.J.
[35:17] Speaker 3: Brown to be more A.J.
[35:21] Speaker 5: Brown.
[35:21] Speaker 3: Instead of deferring to the two other guys. Yeah, you
[35:24] Speaker 3: can have Trey Young. So let's look at this Wizards squad.
[35:27] Speaker 1: So I can say Trey Young declined his player option,
[35:28] Speaker 1: re-upped with the Wizards on a four-year $ 212 million deal.
[35:31] Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, one year remaining on his contract, player option
[35:34] Speaker 1: in 2027, so he can become a free agent next summer.
[35:37] Speaker 1: Washington has a solid young quarterback. They've been in the
[35:38] Speaker 1: lottery heavy. So his option is right now. He's got
[35:42] Speaker 1: one year left, and then the option is next year.
[35:45] Speaker 6: So he won contract option.
[35:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, so two years on his deal. This one was
[35:51] Speaker 1: a player option for the second year. Got a solid
[35:53] Speaker 1: young quarterback. We talked about Alex Saar, along with a
[35:55] Speaker 1: handful of recent lottery and first rounders. So let's take
[35:59] Speaker 1: a look at the Wizards projected starting five for next season.
[36:02] Speaker 1: If we can, please. You got Trae Young, Keyshawn George
[36:06] Speaker 1: at the two.
[36:07] Speaker 3: A.J. DeBonse at the three. A.D.
[36:10] Speaker 1: At the four.
[36:10] Speaker 3: Alex Saar at the five. Keyshawn George is right. Yo,
[36:13] Speaker 3: he was right.
[36:15] Speaker 1: Hey, man.
[36:16] Speaker 3: Here's the reality.
[36:17] Speaker 1: Wizards have had 20 or fewer wins for three straight seasons,
[36:20] Speaker 1: missed the playoffs five straight seasons. When you look at
[36:23] Speaker 1: that starting five, just that starting five, they do have
[36:25] Speaker 1: some nice talent on the bench as well, nice young talent.
[36:27] Speaker 1: Are the Wizards a playoff team with this current roster?
[36:30] Speaker 1: With that starting five?
[36:31] Speaker 6: With the guy up top who has led that Atlanta
[36:34] Speaker 6: team and winning playoff series and games? Yeah, I believe
[36:39] Speaker 6: in Trey Young, right?
[36:40] Speaker 2: I like Trey.
[36:41] Speaker 1: I believe in Trey Young. So I'm going to say, yeah,
[36:42] Speaker 1: I think they're a playoff team. Trey has a chip
[36:44] Speaker 1: on his shoulder as well.
[36:45] Speaker 6: And we talked about you only got to get to 10,
[36:48] Speaker 6: so it ain't hard to do.
[36:49] Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough to depend on Mr.
[36:52] Speaker 2: Glass, man.
[36:53] Speaker 3: I mean, he might break a pinky, break a nail,
[36:56] Speaker 3: stomp his toe. Nigga, we out for 17, 18 games
[37:00] Speaker 3: when we need you. 40 games when we need you, man.
[37:04] Speaker 3: That's the toughest part because then you have to depend
[37:08] Speaker 3: on Sar to try to be like AD. We're talking
[37:11] Speaker 3: about just the projected roster. If AD go down at
[37:14] Speaker 3: any point, we got to fill this void. So we
[37:18] Speaker 3: can't fill the void because AD is a fucking 20-10.
[37:20] Speaker 3: He's a 20-10-2 guy.
[37:21] Speaker 6: I think they understand that as a team, and I
[37:24] Speaker 6: think they'll do something for the roster to prevent that.
[37:27] Speaker 3: They have to.
[37:27] Speaker 6: I ain't saying you got to get nobody that's going
[37:29] Speaker 6: to get a 20-10, but you got to get somebody
[37:30] Speaker 6: that's serviceable that when he's out, like Robert Williams or
[37:33] Speaker 6: somebody of that nature. that you know they're going to
[37:35] Speaker 6: give you off the bench.
[37:36] Speaker 3: But is Sar going to be able to up his
[37:39] Speaker 3: production to match that? He will. But then are you
[37:42] Speaker 3: asking for A.J. to up his production to match that?
[37:45] Speaker 3: He's going to be with you. Listen, he's going to
[37:48] Speaker 3: get buckets.
[37:49] Speaker 6: I think it's Sar that's got to do it.
[37:51] Speaker 3: He's going to average 20. But are we playing team
[37:53] Speaker 3: ball or are we saying we're going to do what
[37:55] Speaker 3: we did to Cooper Flag down in Dallas? So are
[37:57] Speaker 3: we looking to win? Because Trey Young is there. All right,
[38:00] Speaker 3: so Trey Young is there. We're not looking to maximize
[38:04] Speaker 3: our number one pick to be rookie of the year. No,
[38:06] Speaker 3: top six. That's what I'm saying.
[38:07] Speaker 2: Top six.
[38:08] Speaker 3: I think it's about one. No. That's what I'm saying.
[38:11] Speaker 3: I don't think he becomes one.
[38:12] Speaker 1: It doesn't become a kind, carnival situation, though, where you're
[38:14] Speaker 1: actually on a solid team and you're still able to
[38:16] Speaker 1: pull up numbers.
[38:17] Speaker 3: Could be. I think it could be. I like that situation.
[38:20] Speaker 3: Cooper Young, 21.
[38:22] Speaker 1: 22 a game.
[38:23] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. He's doing that in their top six years.
[38:25] Speaker 3: I think it's that. Less pressure than Cooper Flagg. Way
[38:27] Speaker 3: less pressure. I think it's that. Khalid, we'll see. But
[38:30] Speaker 3: he has more ability than I think because he can handle.
[38:33] Speaker 3: He can shoot better. He can do a lot of
[38:36] Speaker 3: things where he don't have to depend on guys sitting
[38:38] Speaker 3: out or them tanking for him to showcase. Who the
[38:42] Speaker 3: hell is the Wizards coach? Keefe. O'Keefe. He was one
[38:46] Speaker 3: of the little pastor dudes too. Brian Keefe. Brian O'Keefe. Yeah.
[38:50] Speaker 3: Brian Keefe. He used to be like an old boy
[38:52] Speaker 3: from the Magic. Yeah. They come in all a little group.
[38:57] Speaker 3: One of the pastor dudes. Like Jamal Mosley. Jamal and
[39:02] Speaker 3: the other... So they were workout guys. Yeah, they were
[39:04] Speaker 3: workout guys. Player development. Yeah. You know a little thing
[39:08] Speaker 3: or two, but I don't think he's coaching. I think
[39:11] Speaker 3: he's developing the talent. No, O'Keefe, is that the coach?
[39:16] Speaker 3: Brian Keefe. Brian Keefe?
[39:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[39:19] Speaker 3: Well, anyway, if anything, they got a scapegoat for two
[39:22] Speaker 3: years in Trey Young if they don't play well.
[39:27] Speaker 2: They're just going to blame Trey.
[39:29] Speaker 3: I think Trey Young got a lot of tip on
[39:30] Speaker 3: his shoulder, man. He ready to ball. They top six
[39:33] Speaker 3: for sure.
[39:34] Speaker 2: If it don't go.
[39:36] Speaker 3: Trey going to play well, man. I mean, you're going
[39:38] Speaker 3: to have Trey. You're going to have AJ. You're going
[39:40] Speaker 3: to have Star. You got George. He's coming into his own.
[39:44] Speaker 3: He's going to up his play. We definitely going to
[39:48] Speaker 3: blame Trey Young. That's all I'm saying. We definitely going
[39:50] Speaker 3: to blame him.
[39:52] Speaker 6: Because he's been voted as the most hated person in
[39:55] Speaker 6: the league and this, that, and the third. People underestimate
[39:58] Speaker 6: Trey Young's competitive drive, dawg. Like, because his stature and
[40:03] Speaker 6: people don't like him, they underestimate how competitive he is
[40:06] Speaker 6: because he's so small.
[40:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, he show up. He shows up, right?
[40:10] Speaker 6: Playoff, big games, playoff series.
[40:12] Speaker 3: He didn't shoot.
[40:13] Speaker 6: Dice on the garden floor for nothing.
[40:15] Speaker 3: For real.
[40:16] Speaker 6: Hit his point on the garden floor, man. Like, people
[40:19] Speaker 6: underestimate this man's competitive drive. And I think, to Brandon's point,
[40:24] Speaker 6: I think he got a chip on his shoulder.
[40:25] Speaker 3: For sure.
[40:26] Speaker 1: He has expressed that in recent interviews.
[40:28] Speaker 3: So, y'all look out, man. This man, you gave him
[40:30] Speaker 3: some talent around him. See, Pat Baird went a whole
[40:32] Speaker 3: nuclear on his ass. He had to clap back because, hey,
[40:35] Speaker 3: I'm not really like, I'm not who you think I am, homie.
[40:38] Speaker 3: Think about my help and think about everybody else's help.
[40:40] Speaker 3: And I did it without no help.
[40:42] Speaker 6: He's a double-double in his league, man. You put some
[40:44] Speaker 6: good people.
[40:45] Speaker 3: Around him, he's a double-double, man.
[40:46] Speaker 5: But Kenyon, when you talked about... The other side of
[40:50] Speaker 5: the board.
[40:51] Speaker 3: You're talking about defense and turnovers. Cool, is he a
[40:53] Speaker 3: worse defender than Steph Curry?
[40:55] Speaker 2: Luka?
[40:56] Speaker 3: Yes.
[40:56] Speaker 5: I mean, Steph's led the league in steals.
[40:58] Speaker 3: That don't mean Luka did as well. No, Steph guards.
[41:02] Speaker 3: Steph guards. Y'all quit throwing that stat out there, and
[41:05] Speaker 3: I hate it. Well, it's a defensive stat. No, it ain't.
[41:08] Speaker 3: It's a gambling stat. Just because you.
[41:10] Speaker 5: Can go gamble don't mean you're a defensive player. It's
[41:13] Speaker 5: better than nothing.
[41:14] Speaker 6: Me and him had this– We had a real live
[41:17] Speaker 6: back and forth with this.
[41:18] Speaker 3: I wanted a conversation. Because whoever's stealing the ball is
[41:22] Speaker 3: definitely a stat. It's a style of stat. It is.
[41:25] Speaker 3: It's a gamble. It's a gamble. I got it. It's
[41:27] Speaker 3: a what?
[41:27] Speaker 5: It's a Larry Bird memorial stat.
[41:29] Speaker 3: So you've been around this league for a long time, right? Yeah.
[41:31] Speaker 6: And a guy who I love wholeheartedly, and I still do.
[41:36] Speaker 6: And Allen Iverson. Was he ever known as a defender?
[41:40] Speaker 6: And how many times did he lead the league in steals?
[41:43] Speaker 5: He was good at that. Right?
[41:45] Speaker 6: So to my point, love him dearly. He ain't never
[41:50] Speaker 6: been looked at as a defender.
[41:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[41:52] Speaker 5: I'm not sure Trey is more than like 5'11.
[41:54] Speaker 3: Okay.
[41:55] Speaker 2: And he's slender.
[41:56] Speaker 3: So he.
[41:57] Speaker 5: There's no physicality to it, so it's hard for him
[42:00] Speaker 5: to stay in front of somebody.
[42:02] Speaker 6: They seek them out. Listen, Golden State, they try to
[42:05] Speaker 6: hide Steph. They try to seek him out. Whoever team
[42:08] Speaker 6: Trey on, they try to seek him out because he's small.
[42:11] Speaker 3: Kyrie.
[42:11] Speaker 1: Kyrie.
[42:12] Speaker 6: All them good guards that's really good, they get sought
[42:15] Speaker 6: out on the other end. That's just what it is.
[42:18] Speaker 6: They just so happen they're really good on the other end.
[42:20] Speaker 6: And to your point, the point that you made about
[42:23] Speaker 6: him leading the league in assists and turnovers, really good
[42:26] Speaker 6: guys who've done it before, just so you know that, right?
[42:29] Speaker 3: John Stockton. Yeah. Magic Johnson.
[42:32] Speaker 6: Magic Johnson. Those guys have done it.
[42:34] Speaker 3: So when you're a willing passer … You are going
[42:37] Speaker 3: to turn the ball over. You are.
[42:39] Speaker 6: When you're willing to put your team in situations to
[42:41] Speaker 6: be successful. I played with one in Jersey. I played
[42:45] Speaker 6: in one in Denver. Jason Kidd, Andre Miller. High assist,
[42:50] Speaker 6: going to have high turnover sometimes. But they're willing to
[42:53] Speaker 6: make the tough pass to try to make their teammate
[42:55] Speaker 6: look good.
[42:56] Speaker 2: They do.
[42:56] Speaker 6: And that's what Trey Young is. You don't average 10,
[42:59] Speaker 6: 11 assists in his league, and you're not afraid to
[43:02] Speaker 6: make the tough pass, right? You're going to throw it
[43:05] Speaker 6: out of bounds. You're going to throw it behind a guy.
[43:06] Speaker 6: You're going to, when you play with a certain flair
[43:09] Speaker 6: and a certain thing to you, it just happens, right?
[43:12] Speaker 3: So, as long as your assist.
[43:14] Speaker 6: Out, it ain't like you are, I don't mean to
[43:17] Speaker 6: throw stones at him right now, James Harden, where you
[43:19] Speaker 6: have more turnovers than field goal, maybe. It's not that
[43:22] Speaker 6: with Trae Young.
[43:24] Speaker 3: And Trae Young averaged, what, 27 and 10 at some point? 28,
[43:28] Speaker 3: something like that. Like, James has done it as well, but...
[43:31] Speaker 3: Comparing with Jalen Brunson, you compare... Trey Young and Jalen Brunson, right?
[43:36] Speaker 3: The things you're going to offset is you're going to
[43:38] Speaker 3: say Jalen Brunson won a championship, right? So before the championship,
[43:41] Speaker 3: you're going to be like, all right, where's the assist, right?
[43:46] Speaker 3: Even the point per game for Trey Young is higher
[43:49] Speaker 3: than Jalen. The assists are there. It's just I'm playing here.
[43:53] Speaker 3: You're playing there. We both don't play defense like that.
[43:56] Speaker 3: We don't steal the ball. We're liabilities.
[43:59] Speaker 5: What?
[44:00] Speaker 3: No, go ahead. You finish talking. Trey has averaged 30
[44:03] Speaker 3: and 9. He's averaged 30 and 9 in this league.
[44:07] Speaker 3: So we talk about like.
[44:08] Speaker 4: There's only a couple people that could argue with Bronson.
[44:11] Speaker 3: When? Right now? Because he just won it. I get
[44:14] Speaker 3: where you're going because he.
[44:14] Speaker 2: Just won it fresh.
[44:16] Speaker 6: But Trey Young numbers with him.
[44:18] Speaker 3: I'm just saying like... The point that he is making
[44:20] Speaker 3: is comparing the two. No, if you're comparing the two, them, right?
[44:25] Speaker 6: He's comparing them two.
[44:26] Speaker 3: Just do them. Just them. The numbers look better. The
[44:30] Speaker 3: assists are better. You're talking about just being a total
[44:32] Speaker 3: team player.
[44:34] Speaker 2: It's better.
[44:36] Speaker 5: Atlanta said no to Trey Young.
[44:38] Speaker 2: I love Trey.
[44:39] Speaker 3: He ran his course. Dallas said no to Jalen Brunson.
[44:44] Speaker 3: It's been around.
[44:45] Speaker 6: Dan tried to change his mind after he started playing.
[44:47] Speaker 2: They had Luka.
[44:50] Speaker 5: Okay, but Trey was it, and he was the only
[44:54] Speaker 5: drawing card they had.
[44:56] Speaker 3: We did our damage. We went to the Eastern Conference Finals, right?
[45:01] Speaker 6: Same thing with Giannis, right?
[45:02] Speaker 3: Atlanta. Brunson did too, right? So we both– they gave
[45:06] Speaker 3: up on me. They gave up on you. We both
[45:09] Speaker 3: showcased our talent at the high level. 30-9, like, come on, bro. Like,
[45:13] Speaker 3: as a point guard, 5'11, don't play defense.
[45:17] Speaker 2: That's crazy.
[45:18] Speaker 3: All the knock on him. All the bullshit they say
[45:19] Speaker 3: about him. 30 and 9? So what's the difference between
[45:23] Speaker 3: him and Luka? What you mean? I mean, they both
[45:26] Speaker 3: don't play deep, but they have great runs. You talking
[45:29] Speaker 3: about Trae Young and Luka? Yeah, one taller. He don't
[45:31] Speaker 3: play deep. The one can rebound better. The one is
[45:36] Speaker 3: big enough to go get rebounds. But can you win
[45:39] Speaker 3: with those two running the show?
[45:40] Speaker 2: And one gets looked at.
[45:42] Speaker 3: One gets looked at like this. That's what one gets
[45:44] Speaker 3: looked at. They both have made runs to show we
[45:46] Speaker 3: can win.
[45:47] Speaker 2: But one gets looked at better than the other.
[45:49] Speaker 3: Well, one has a teammate like Kyrie Irving. The other
[45:52] Speaker 3: one did not. The other one had Clint Capella. Like,
[45:55] Speaker 3: what are you going to do with Clint Capella in
[45:56] Speaker 3: comparison to Kyrie Irving, bro? That's a difference, right? And
[46:00] Speaker 3: even Jalen Brunson. I got Cat. I got OG. I
[46:04] Speaker 3: got Josh Hart. Like, he has intangible pieces where he
[46:08] Speaker 3: don't have to pass like that. I don't have to
[46:10] Speaker 3: get you guys involved. This guy has to get them
[46:12] Speaker 3: guys involved because they're doubling me. We got to double
[46:15] Speaker 3: him off the pick and roll because he shoots like Steph.
[46:18] Speaker 3: He can shoot it from deep. Like, we got to
[46:21] Speaker 3: throw it to Clint. Clint, you got to make a play.
[46:24] Speaker 3: Come on, bro. Now he got AD. Now he got
[46:26] Speaker 3: AJ DeVansa.
[46:28] Speaker 1: Well, we will see how it pans out for the weirds.
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[47:44] Speaker 1: more of the draft. So like I said, leading up
[47:46] Speaker 1: to the draft, number one pick appeared to be a
[47:48] Speaker 1: two-way race between A.J. DeBonsa and Darren Peterson. Wizards grabbing
[47:52] Speaker 1: DeBonsa opened the door for the Jazz to take Peterson
[47:54] Speaker 1: with the second pick. The 6'6 guard set a Kansas
[47:57] Speaker 1: freshman record by averaging 20.2 points per game last season,
[48:00] Speaker 1: but like we mentioned, missed 11 of his first 27
[48:03] Speaker 1: games due to cramping issues while also subbing himself out
[48:06] Speaker 1: of other games. Skip, like you pointed out, Peterson later
[48:09] Speaker 1: blamed creatine as the main cause of the problems during
[48:12] Speaker 1: his long college season. You said you didn't necessarily rock
[48:15] Speaker 1: with that explanation. Either way, none of these issues were
[48:18] Speaker 1: a concern for the Jazz. Now Peterson... And his brother,
[48:21] Speaker 1: Darryl Peterson III, are the first pair of brothers to
[48:24] Speaker 1: join the NBA and the NFL in the same year.
[48:27] Speaker 1: Darryl Peterson also inked a deal with Adidas, which, according
[48:30] Speaker 1: to Nick DiPaola, is in the top five for richest
[48:33] Speaker 1: rookie shoe deals in NBA history. So despite all whatever
[48:37] Speaker 1: issues there may have been at Kansas, Adidas is breaking bread.
[48:41] Speaker 1: The Jazz are breaking bread. But I can't even start
[48:44] Speaker 1: with you. Do you like Darryl Peterson's fit with the Jazz?
[48:47] Speaker 10: No.
[48:49] Speaker 6: I got to just say, I don't know where the
[48:50] Speaker 6: Jazz are headed. I mean, you got Keontae George. Yeah,
[48:53] Speaker 6: they got Keontae George.
[48:54] Speaker 3: Marking it. You got Isaiah Collier. You got... Jaron Jackson Jr.
[48:57] Speaker 3: Marking it.
[48:58] Speaker 6: Jaron Jackson Jr. Filipowski. You got Ace Bailey. You got Sensibar.
[49:04] Speaker 3: Like, you got.
[49:04] Speaker 6: You got a lot of bodies over there that.
[49:08] Speaker 3: That like to shoot the ball.
[49:09] Speaker 6: That like to shoot the ball.
[49:10] Speaker 2: So.
[49:12] Speaker 6: There's a lot of losing over there as of late. Like,
[49:15] Speaker 6: a lot of losing in Utah.
[49:17] Speaker 2: So.
[49:18] Speaker 6: I don't know where they're headed. I don't know what
[49:21] Speaker 6: they think of Darren Peterson being in Utah now hell
[49:24] Speaker 6: of a talent we know that but what it looks
[49:31] Speaker 6: like moving forward I have no idea I was I
[49:36] Speaker 6: Fortunate enough to see it up close when KJ was
[49:39] Speaker 6: there at the end of a couple years, not this
[49:41] Speaker 6: past season, but the year before at the end of
[49:42] Speaker 6: the year. A lot of the same pieces were there.
[49:45] Speaker 6: They just added Ace Bailey. Phillip Cousins was there, Lauren Markham,
[49:48] Speaker 6: where they were playing with his men, his county, George Darryl,
[49:51] Speaker 6: Isaiah Collier was there. Sensor Ball was there. Everybody I
[49:55] Speaker 6: named was there, and it's the same style of basketball
[49:57] Speaker 6: then as it was this past season.
[50:00] Speaker 5: What do you think of Will Hardy?
[50:03] Speaker 6: I like him. I like him as a coach. He's
[50:05] Speaker 6: a young guy. young mind in this league, um, been
[50:09] Speaker 6: put in a tough situation.
[50:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[50:11] Speaker 6: Um, but has years contract on them, like years or
[50:15] Speaker 6: so to maybe try to figure it out if they
[50:18] Speaker 6: decide not to move on. Um, but I think him
[50:21] Speaker 6: and an owner, they're young, they're young minded. I think
[50:23] Speaker 6: they're on the same page. Um, giving them opportunity to
[50:26] Speaker 6: build what their, whatever their vision is. I think they're
[50:30] Speaker 6: on the same page. Um, but like I said, there's
[50:33] Speaker 6: been a lot of losing in Utah as of late. Um,
[50:37] Speaker 6: Where Darren Peterson fits into that, I have no earthly idea.
[50:43] Speaker 6: But I wish him the best in his rookie year
[50:45] Speaker 6: at figuring out what his niche is and where his
[50:50] Speaker 6: role is in this NBA. I wish him nothing but
[50:54] Speaker 6: the best on trying to figure that out. Because we
[50:56] Speaker 6: don't know what the Utah Jazz are doing.
[50:59] Speaker 1: I just.
[51:01] Speaker 3: Yeah. From last year, picking Ace Bailey when it was
[51:04] Speaker 3: obvious he didn't want to be there.
[51:06] Speaker 5: But.
[51:07] Speaker 3: Where you're drafted matters. I don't care what nobody say.
[51:12] Speaker 3: Where you're drafted matters. Who your coach is matters. And where,
[51:16] Speaker 3: like you said, where the organization plans to go, what
[51:20] Speaker 3: trajectory they plan to choose, and if you are a
[51:23] Speaker 3: part of that. So if Ace Bailey got picked based
[51:27] Speaker 3: on him being the best available, didn't want to be there,
[51:31] Speaker 3: and it showed because they didn't really play him like
[51:33] Speaker 3: he was the number five pick. So then you got
[51:37] Speaker 3: Keontae George, who's been waiting for a guy like Colin
[51:40] Speaker 3: Sexton to step away so that he can take full
[51:42] Speaker 3: reins of the ship. He finally got the ship. Then
[51:46] Speaker 3: here comes Isaiah Collier, who's a better point guard per
[51:50] Speaker 3: se when it comes to passing it, but also gives
[51:53] Speaker 3: the pressure off of him so he can be like
[51:54] Speaker 3: a Kyrie Irving type of guard. He showed a lot
[51:57] Speaker 3: of promise this year. So you look at Louis Marketing.
[52:02] Speaker 3: This is a guy who never gets credit for being
[52:04] Speaker 3: who he is. He's averaging 27 a game for the
[52:07] Speaker 3: last six years or so and nine rebounds plus. We
[52:12] Speaker 3: don't even look at him as a premier top player,
[52:14] Speaker 3: but he is. He shows up every year. And so
[52:17] Speaker 3: now you look at Darren Peterson showing up. He now
[52:20] Speaker 3: has competition between him, Ace, and Keontae. Without knowing what
[52:27] Speaker 3: they're going to do with Laurie Marketing, which he's been
[52:29] Speaker 3: on trade conversations for the last two years. Who wants him?
[52:33] Speaker 3: What should we do with him? Walker Kessler's walking. So
[52:37] Speaker 3: we're like, all right, he may go to the Lakers.
[52:39] Speaker 3: They might bring somebody for the Lakers. Who knows? But
[52:42] Speaker 3: we know that them three guys, Keontae, Ace Bailey, and
[52:46] Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, they have a lot of shit to hash
[52:50] Speaker 3: out because it's going to be a big swinging contest.
[52:54] Speaker 3: Whose team is this? We need to get the ownership
[52:57] Speaker 3: down here to tell us who wants what. Because Ace,
[53:01] Speaker 3: he feel like he showed his promise during the tail
[53:03] Speaker 3: end of the season. Keontae already felt like, shit, they
[53:07] Speaker 3: need to sit me down so we can tank to
[53:09] Speaker 3: get the next guy. Because he was that good. So
[53:13] Speaker 3: at this point, it's like, like Kenyon said, we don't
[53:15] Speaker 3: know what the fuck they're going to do down there.
[53:17] Speaker 3: But we know that they got talent enough that's going
[53:19] Speaker 3: to clash with each other. And so for Darren Peterson
[53:22] Speaker 3: to go to Utah, it's sticky. Because... He may not
[53:26] Speaker 3: be the best player on that team.
[53:28] Speaker 2: He is the best player on that team.
[53:29] Speaker 3: He may not be. I think this is what you
[53:32] Speaker 3: tank for. You tank for a guy like Peterson.
[53:35] Speaker 2: And they got who they wanted. I think we're sleeping
[53:39] Speaker 2: on Utah, man.
[53:40] Speaker 4: With the team they got, they might be like the
[53:43] Speaker 4: Wizards right now of old with just being everywhere, but
[53:46] Speaker 4: they are Utah. They known for being the Solid program.
[53:52] Speaker 3: I mean, a solid, you know, everything. They got who
[53:54] Speaker 3: they wanted?
[53:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, they got who they wanted.
[53:56] Speaker 3: I thought they wanted the Utah boy.
[53:58] Speaker 2: Oh, man.
[53:59] Speaker 3: I think in five years, you're going to be looking
[54:01] Speaker 3: back and be like, did the wrong guy go number one?
[54:05] Speaker 3: Peterson is tough, bro. Peterson is... So, Peterson wasn't supposed
[54:10] Speaker 3: to go number one?
[54:12] Speaker 4: They got who they wanted right now. And they're going...
[54:16] Speaker 4: It's going to be in the West. Peterson going to
[54:19] Speaker 4: ball out, man. All you got to do, you got Larkin,
[54:22] Speaker 4: you got Peterson, you got.
[54:25] Speaker 2: George.
[54:27] Speaker 4: Do they still got Jaron Jackson Jr.
[54:29] Speaker 1: Yes.
[54:30] Speaker 3: Jaron Jackson Jr. is still there.
[54:31] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
[54:34] Speaker 3: So talk to me. No, you just realized it now.
[54:36] Speaker 2: I have a lot of people.
[54:37] Speaker 3: So why is this the purpose? They got the guy
[54:39] Speaker 3: they wanted?
[54:39] Speaker 6: Because he damn sure shoot it every time he touch it.
[54:41] Speaker 3: Every time. He's the black hole.
[54:42] Speaker 6: Jam Jackson?
[54:43] Speaker 3: Oh, he shoot that every time. No swinging it. No
[54:45] Speaker 3: throwing it out. None of that. Black hole. None of that.
[54:48] Speaker 3: You swinging him on the perimeter. You shoot him. You
[54:49] Speaker 3: throw him in the post. He shoot less. He is
[54:51] Speaker 3: definitely not.
[54:52] Speaker 6: I forgot about him.
[54:53] Speaker 3: Man, everybody forgot about that. And I think about, they
[54:56] Speaker 3: didn't even get to play with him down there like
[54:58] Speaker 3: that because when he got there, they just took him out.
[55:01] Speaker 6: Listen, for them to offer Walker Kessler that money and
[55:03] Speaker 6: him turn it down, say, I don't know about y'all.
[55:07] Speaker 2: They got George, Peterson, Jackson, Larkland.
[55:11] Speaker 3: Ace Bailey, Filipowski.
[55:14] Speaker 1: Did you say George?
[55:15] Speaker 3: Isaiah Collier. That's a good five. Isaiah Collier.
[55:21] Speaker 2: You don't think so?
[55:23] Speaker 3: Who's It's like the Blazers, Honda. Yeah, that's what I'm
[55:26] Speaker 3: about to say. Honda's going to coincide, Nick. Who's their GM?
[55:32] Speaker 2: Danny Ainge, right? Danny Ainge. And his son.
[55:35] Speaker 6: And his son.
[55:35] Speaker 2: Danny Ainge. They about to make a trade.
[55:37] Speaker 3: They have to make a trade. They about to make
[55:39] Speaker 3: a trade. Okay, so how is Danny as a GM
[55:42] Speaker 3: and as a front office guy? Sticky. Sticky as hell.
[55:46] Speaker 9: No, because Kenyon asked where is it going. Well, got
[55:48] Speaker 9: to look at who's the GM and what he's been doing,
[55:50] Speaker 9: Danny Ainge.
[55:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:52] Speaker 3: Depends on, he has a lot on his plate.
[55:53] Speaker 9: He's got a lot of young guys, and if we're
[55:54] Speaker 9: just drafting because of whatever, then it says a lot
[55:57] Speaker 9: about you.
[55:58] Speaker 3: Danny has done this before. Danny did this with Boston,
[56:01] Speaker 3: and he moved those pieces for veteran players and then
[56:05] Speaker 3: built that one little championship they got.
[56:07] Speaker 9: And then got Isaiah Thomas for Kyrie. Kyrie bounced.
[56:12] Speaker 6: Lower marketing is the key.
[56:14] Speaker 2: And pick Jason Tatum when people.
[56:16] Speaker 3: On paper, a very good-looking team. And people were saying pick.
[56:18] Speaker 3: You guys mentioned one basketball.
[56:20] Speaker 4: Markel Falk. Something like that. There's only one of those.
[56:23] Speaker 4: There's only one. But they traded to go back.
[56:26] Speaker 6: They only got one willing passer on there. That's Isaiah Conley.
[56:30] Speaker 6: They got one willing passer.
[56:31] Speaker 1: All of them.
[56:32] Speaker 5: Keontae George averaged six assists last year, and that was
[56:35] Speaker 5: impressive to me.
[56:36] Speaker 3: Very impressive.
[56:37] Speaker 2: Seriously.
[56:37] Speaker 3: As a shoot first guard.
[56:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[56:38] Speaker 5: 24 and 6 assists.
[56:40] Speaker 3: That's a lot. That's good. That's very good. Can you
[56:44] Speaker 3: learn that phrase? 24 and 6. That's a lot. Willing.
[56:47] Speaker 6: Passer.
[56:47] Speaker 2: Okay.
[56:48] Speaker 5: Right?
[56:49] Speaker 6: On the L1, I have one willing passer, and that's
[56:51] Speaker 6: Isaiah Akari.
[56:53] Speaker 3: Right?
[56:53] Speaker 2: No, six assists.
[56:54] Speaker 6: No, that ain't a Willie pass.
[56:55] Speaker 3: It is for sure. Yes, it is. Today? He'll score first.
[57:00] Speaker 3: I know, but six assists, that's a lot.
[57:01] Speaker 2: That's a lot.
[57:02] Speaker 3: That's a lot. He's a scoring guard.
[57:05] Speaker 2: He's a scoring guard.
[57:06] Speaker 3: How many, what did he get, two more assists more?
[57:08] Speaker 3: Two more assists more makes him a passing guard? No,
[57:10] Speaker 3: but y'all want to hear what I'm saying. I think
[57:12] Speaker 3: six assists is a lot. It's very good.
[57:14] Speaker 6: Y'all missing what I'm saying. I got the ball in
[57:15] Speaker 6: my hands, so I should average six assists.
[57:18] Speaker 2: Right?
[57:18] Speaker 6: If I'm looking for my shot and you trying to take,
[57:20] Speaker 6: I should.
[57:21] Speaker 3: Be able to get off on an average. How many
[57:22] Speaker 3: does Shea, Gilken, Alexander, how many does he average?
[57:25] Speaker 2: Six.
[57:26] Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson?
[57:27] Speaker 2: Six.
[57:30] Speaker 3: Six. That's still good. Five. Are they willing passers? No.
[57:34] Speaker 1: SGA six and a half.
[57:35] Speaker 3: I ain't too far off of this, Josiah. Trust me.
[57:37] Speaker 3: I'm not willing passers. They're getting stopped.
[57:40] Speaker 6: They're not willing passers.
[57:43] Speaker 3: What makes you a willing passer? Is eight assists a game?
[57:45] Speaker 3: You're a pass-first guy. Is it eight assists? So, Keontae,
[57:48] Speaker 3: 6.1 assists. I want to say SGA 6.6. Brunson, 6.8 assists. Yes,
[57:53] Speaker 3: they got the ball in their hand enough. They should
[57:55] Speaker 3: average those.
[57:55] Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. How many else does Isaiah Carrier average?
[57:59] Speaker 3: 7.2.
[58:01] Speaker 2: Okay, one more.
[58:02] Speaker 3: I'm averaging six of you. So I'm scoring and you
[58:06] Speaker 3: get no more assists. And you're playing.
[58:11] Speaker 1: The all six minutes of game for Collier. How many?
[58:13] Speaker 2: 26?
[58:13] Speaker 3: And I'm averaging more assists. Thank you. Because your job
[58:17] Speaker 3: is to come in here off the bench and pass
[58:19] Speaker 3: the ball. I know, but you're a willing passer. So
[58:22] Speaker 3: you should be averaging more than that.
[58:23] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[58:23] Speaker 3: If he averaged 36, if he averaged 10 more minutes.
[58:30] Speaker 9: Right, so he averaged 26 minutes a night.
[58:36] Speaker 3: He's a willing passer. And he averaged 7 assists. So
[58:38] Speaker 3: you should be able to get to 10. Don't even
[58:40] Speaker 3: look at the rim. I'm a willing passer. You're not
[58:42] Speaker 3: trying to score. I'm a willing passer.
[58:45] Speaker 4: You're still with these guys.
[58:47] Speaker 3: You act like you got the ball in your hand
[58:48] Speaker 3: all the time. 11 and 7.
[58:49] Speaker 5: Listen.
[58:51] Speaker 3: Yes, I'm six and six and that is yes but
[58:52] Speaker 3: those guys.
[59:00] Speaker 1: A lot, 67% of the chat says yes.
[59:02] Speaker 3: I'm saying it is. Yes, I'm agreeing with you.
[59:06] Speaker 6: Six and six and a half is yes, but those
[59:09] Speaker 6: guys are not pass for as willing to pass.
[59:14] Speaker 3: Look at who's on the team for Utah. Keontae is
[59:19] Speaker 3: passing to marketing, fucking ace bet. He's got to pass
[59:24] Speaker 3: it to niggas that can play. And what they're going
[59:26] Speaker 3: to do when they get it? They, they, they, what
[59:29] Speaker 3: you mean? Marking an average 26. Score the ball, yeah.
[59:32] Speaker 3: Not off-catching.
[59:33] Speaker 9: I know you're not a pass-first point guard, but what
[59:35] Speaker 9: I'm saying is the fact that you can still get
[59:37] Speaker 9: six and a pass-first point guard.
[59:38] Speaker 3: When you're getting seven. I'm agreeing with you. 24 points
[59:40] Speaker 3: a game is six. I'm agreeing with you. Listen, I
[59:41] Speaker 3: am agreeing.
[59:42] Speaker 1: That's all-star.
[59:43] Speaker 3: Those are all-star numbers. I'm agreeing with you. Six and
[59:46] Speaker 3: a half, six and six is a lot. Yes. I know,
[59:49] Speaker 3: but you still said that they're not willing passers. They're not. Listen,
[59:52] Speaker 3: you could score.
[59:53] Speaker 6: I'm going to give you a better analogy.
[59:55] Speaker 3: You was a scorer, right?
[59:56] Speaker 6: But you was a pass-first guy, right?
[59:58] Speaker 3: Yes. But you could score. You scored 55 points in
[1:00:01] Speaker 3: this league. Yes.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: Not easy to do.
[1:00:03] Speaker 6: But you are a willing pass-first guard.
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a pass-first guard. That could really score.
[1:00:10] Speaker 6: If you put your mind to it, Brandon, when you
[1:00:13] Speaker 6: was in this league, and you could average what them dudes,
[1:00:17] Speaker 6: you 27, 28 a night, you could. But you went
[1:00:19] Speaker 6: into that joint knowing... I'm a distributor first. You're a
[1:00:24] Speaker 6: willing passer first.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
[1:00:26] Speaker 6: Those, not those other guys.
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: But Keontae is asked to do other things and be
[1:00:32] Speaker 3: a pass first. He can score.
[1:00:35] Speaker 6: So what is LeBron James? Let me give you a
[1:00:37] Speaker 6: better analogy. The guys that average those points that average
[1:00:40] Speaker 6: six and a half, they're playmakers. Does that make, does
[1:00:43] Speaker 6: that better analogy?
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: Is Keontae a playmaker? I'm putting him in there. He's
[1:00:47] Speaker 3: a playmaker. So I'm a willing passer? A willing passer
[1:00:52] Speaker 3: for sure. No, no, just hear me out. The play
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: calls for me. I got it in my hand, right?
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Boom, boom.
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: I got an option. Hear me out. Hear me out.
[1:01:04] Speaker 3: If I got an option here, Nick, I got him.
[1:01:06] Speaker 6: So I got an option. I come off, boom, boom.
[1:01:09] Speaker 6: I break my man down. I got an option.
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: I see you. Okay. Oh, and I see the rim.
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: Which one you think they're going to do first? What
[1:01:14] Speaker 3: did you say first? What did you say first? What
[1:01:16] Speaker 3: is the first thing you said? I broke my man down.
[1:01:20] Speaker 3: As a playmaker, right? So what is the first thing
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: you're thinking about after I break my man down?
[1:01:25] Speaker 6: As a playmaker, it's a different pass first guy.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: Break my guy down. Boom, boom, boom. I see you.
[1:01:34] Speaker 3: You're open. I also have a shot. Is my shot better?
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: Wide open, wide open.
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: 100%.
[1:01:41] Speaker 3: Your shot is wide open. Wide open, wide open. Which
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: one is Keontae George doing? Oh, he's going to go score.
[1:01:49] Speaker 3: What you doing? You're going to go score that bitch too.
[1:01:52] Speaker 5: No.
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: He's going to go score that bitch too. Hold my
[1:01:55] Speaker 3: man down. I'm low game.
[1:01:57] Speaker 5: It's low game.
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: Brandon is throwing a lot. Brandon is throwing a lot.
[1:02:02] Speaker 3: Depending on what the defense do, Nick. That depends on
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: what the defense do.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: Brandon is throwing a lot.
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: You throwing that.
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: Brandon on the fastball.
[1:02:09] Speaker 3: Brandon, are you throwing it to a nigga that ain't
[1:02:11] Speaker 3: catching it?
[1:02:12] Speaker 11: Michael Redd over there. Are you throwing it to a
[1:02:13] Speaker 11: motherfucker Michael Redd? Michael Redd over there.
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:02:15] Speaker 11: Was it Michael Redd? Michael Redd. Michael Redd. Michael Redd
[1:02:19] Speaker 11: down there. Michael Redd is over there. You boom, boom, boom.
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: Yes. Michael Redd is right there. Right. Are you doing
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: that or are you passing it to Michael Redd? I'm
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: going for my floater. Brandon, are you passing that ball
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: to Michael Redd? No way.
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: No way.
[1:02:32] Speaker 12: If I'm in the lane and I'm like this because his.
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: Stop might not be. We both a floater?
[1:02:38] Speaker 6: Scott Scott's cussing you out.
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: You have to free throw line 15 feet. Hey, Brandon. Oh,
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: 15 feet. 15 feet. That's what I'm saying. Oh, no, no.
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: Okay, no.
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: No, I'm thinking if I'm in the lane. If I'm
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: in the lane. Real basketball player. You have to be flying. Boom, boom, boom.
[1:02:50] Speaker 3: You get in the free throw line.
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: You're in the lane.
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: You're going to float a fifth. And he see the
[1:02:53] Speaker 3: big down there. I'm serious. You're a little closer.
[1:02:56] Speaker 5: My man.
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: 10-7 is on the defense. That's a floater. I get you.
[1:02:59] Speaker 6: So we're talking real basketball here, right?
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: Real basketball. If I'm breaking down, I'm getting around. So
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: you're breaking down. Boom, boom. At the three-point line. You're
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: coming down. Boom.
[1:03:08] Speaker 6: You're breaking down. You got that, and it's a little further,
[1:03:11] Speaker 6: or you got Michael Redd over there.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: Michael Redd. Yeah, Michael Redd. John Sammons over there. You're throwing.
[1:03:15] Speaker 2: No. Right? No.
[1:03:17] Speaker 3: Fuck no. You're Brandon fucking Denny's, nigga. You had 55.
[1:03:22] Speaker 6: You didn't have 55.
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: What are you talking about? That floater's going down and
[1:03:28] Speaker 3: that pull-up is going down. What are you talking about?
[1:03:30] Speaker 4: That pull-up is going down and you got bunnies, Brandon.
[1:03:33] Speaker 3: You're going to dunk on that nigga if you need to.
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: See the scenario?
[1:03:36] Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about. They just got the
[1:03:38] Speaker 4: ball in their hand all the time. That's all.
[1:03:40] Speaker 6: Listen, there's a playmaking guards, which you got the ball
[1:03:43] Speaker 6: in your hand. Listen, if you dribbling the ball 200
[1:03:46] Speaker 6: plus times a game, 200 plus times a game, all
[1:03:51] Speaker 6: of these dudes that got Shea, Jalen Brunson, all the
[1:03:55] Speaker 6: dudes that dribble that way, they should average six and
[1:03:57] Speaker 6: a half or six.
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: What is Trae Young doing? What is Trae Young doing?
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: A bum bum break my man down. What is he doing?
[1:04:02] Speaker 3: Floater or is he passing it?
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: They should.
[1:04:05] Speaker 3: He's floating it because he averaged 28 a game. You
[1:04:08] Speaker 3: don't think so? Sometimes it's a floater, sometimes it's a lot.
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: 250 times a game?
[1:04:10] Speaker 12: If you're getting six and a half, that means you're
[1:04:12] Speaker 12: averaging seven to eight a night. I mean, you have
[1:04:21] Speaker 12: to get seven to eight a night.
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: A hundred percent. To get to six. To get to
[1:04:25] Speaker 3: six a game. No, there's some nights where they got two. No,
[1:04:28] Speaker 3: there is, but I'm still at the end of the year.
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: I'm still averaging eight. No, it averages out. Listen, it
[1:04:32] Speaker 3: averages out. Some nights, listen, there have been some games.
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: Some nights I got 12.
[1:04:35] Speaker 6: You took the word, some nights you got 12. Some
[1:04:38] Speaker 6: nights you got two. Willing passers know, and they ain't
[1:04:41] Speaker 6: going to never have two.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04:43] Speaker 6: That's what I'm pointing to. A willing passer ain't never
[1:04:45] Speaker 6: going to go in and assist. But a willing passer
[1:04:46] Speaker 6: might have eight turnovers, seven turnovers. They're trying to pass it.
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: And they're going to have 15 assists. Is Luka a
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: willing passer? And they're going to have 15 assists. If
[1:04:54] Speaker 3: they got eight turnovers, they got 15 assists. Because he
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: has to pass. He has to pass. I don't think
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: he's a willing passer.
[1:05:00] Speaker 6: If a guy comes out and he has 15 assists,
[1:05:03] Speaker 6: more than likely he's going to have six, seven turnovers.
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: Is LeBron James a willing passer? That's just what it is.
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: So LeBron James break a nigga down at the top
[1:05:11] Speaker 3: of the key. I'm not floating shit. I'm not throwing
[1:05:16] Speaker 3: it to the corner. I'm cocking that bitch back and
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: I'm ducking on that bitch. I don't care who they are.
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: I open first. I'm LeBron James.
[1:05:26] Speaker 6: He might break him down, fire that bitch over there.
[1:05:28] Speaker 6: He didn't move to the corner and throw that bitch
[1:05:30] Speaker 6: over to the coach.
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: But don't admit it. It depends on what the defense do.
[1:05:33] Speaker 5: LeBron, he's going to make the right play, right?
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: If he breaks his guy down.
[1:05:38] Speaker 5: But he's going to kick it to George Hill. He's
[1:05:40] Speaker 5: got a shot over Steph Curry to win the game.
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: Game one. But he didn't break the guy down before that.
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: That was just a swing swing. That was just I
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: didn't want it. That was just I didn't want it.
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: At the time.
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: All right.
[1:05:50] Speaker 5: Let me go back to you.
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:05:51] Speaker 5: So. There's all this talent you just went over in Utah,
[1:05:56] Speaker 5: and I'm with you. It all got thrown against the wall,
[1:05:59] Speaker 5: and how much of it is going to stick on
[1:06:01] Speaker 5: the wall? And it starts with this coach, Will Hardy.
[1:06:05] Speaker 5: The people I know in San Antonio, they just looked
[1:06:09] Speaker 5: up to him like he's the next God coach, like
[1:06:11] Speaker 5: he's going to be the pop. He's going to maybe
[1:06:15] Speaker 5: follow pop if it worked out right, but he's been
[1:06:18] Speaker 5: stuck in a sorry situation, and you know it well.
[1:06:22] Speaker 5: and yet I think he has star quality to him,
[1:06:26] Speaker 5: and now he's got all the pieces right in his lap.
[1:06:30] Speaker 5: So what sticks, what clicks, what gels, what ignites, because
[1:06:35] Speaker 5: what's going to happen, the first practice of training camp,
[1:06:39] Speaker 5: Darren Peterson's going to step on the floor and take
[1:06:41] Speaker 5: two dribbles, and everybody on that team is going to
[1:06:44] Speaker 5: look up and say, he's the best player on this team.
[1:06:47] Speaker 5: First camp practice, they'll know. once they see him in action.
[1:06:52] Speaker 5: And yet, I look at these pieces, and I'm seeing
[1:06:56] Speaker 5: a team that went 22-60 last year. That was the
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: worst record in the West. I'm seeing a team that's
[1:07:03] Speaker 5: going to be a play-in team this coming year. With
[1:07:06] Speaker 5: Darren Peterson as the focal point of this offense, and
[1:07:11] Speaker 5: I understand you're going to say, wait, you've got too
[1:07:14] Speaker 5: many people who want to shoot it too many times.
[1:07:17] Speaker 5: I'm looking at Laurie Markkinen, and you pointed out, he's
[1:07:21] Speaker 5: only 29 years old, and he's 7 feet 1 inches tall,
[1:07:24] Speaker 5: and he's never gotten the credit that he deserves. But
[1:07:27] Speaker 5: if you put him with enough star power, he'll start
[1:07:30] Speaker 5: to shine through, and you're going to say, wait a second,
[1:07:33] Speaker 5: they've got something going on here, because he did average
[1:07:35] Speaker 5: 27 and 7 last year. And then Keontae George is
[1:07:40] Speaker 5: becoming like what I call a near star, where he's
[1:07:43] Speaker 5: got star quality. He's not going to be an all-star,
[1:07:45] Speaker 5: but he averaged 24 and 6 last year. And you've
[1:07:49] Speaker 5: got to give him his due that he has arrived
[1:07:54] Speaker 5: in the NBA. He's a real live player. And then
[1:07:58] Speaker 5: Jaron Jackson, it was just three years ago, he was
[1:08:01] Speaker 5: the defensive player of the year in the league and
[1:08:03] Speaker 5: averaged three blocks a game. And I know what you're
[1:08:06] Speaker 5: talking about. You know, if it touches his fingertips, he's
[1:08:12] Speaker 5: going to shoot it. But maybe Will Hardy gets to
[1:08:16] Speaker 5: him and says, wait a second, we just don't need that.
[1:08:18] Speaker 5: Look what we have here. We need you to defend.
[1:08:22] Speaker 5: And I don't think they're going to let Walker Kessler walk.
[1:08:26] Speaker 3: Because he's just too good.
[1:08:27] Speaker 5: He's seven feet, two inches tall. He wasn't healthy last year,
[1:08:31] Speaker 5: but the year before, he led the league in offensive rebounds.
[1:08:35] Speaker 6: And will lead the league in blocks one day.
[1:08:36] Speaker 5: Okay, he will because he's just that. He times it.
[1:08:41] Speaker 5: He's got it all.
[1:08:42] Speaker 3: But you've got to get rid of Jackson or Larklin.
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: You've got to do something because the numbers don't matter.
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: You're stacked.
[1:08:49] Speaker 5: You've got talent.
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: Ace Bailey looking like the prime candidate right now, Swag.
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: They both played the four, Marklin and Unchained.
[1:08:56] Speaker 5: But Ace Bailey in limited minutes averaged 14.
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: 14 a game.
[1:09:00] Speaker 5: Okay, it's not bad.
[1:09:01] Speaker 3: 47 minutes.
[1:09:02] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:09:03] Speaker 3: He could play the three.
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: All right.
[1:09:04] Speaker 5: So I'm just seeing firepower here, man.
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: Firepower for sure.
[1:09:09] Speaker 5: Like ridiculous where you're saying, wait a second. That– in
[1:09:13] Speaker 5: the West, and it's the West, and it's hard, man.
[1:09:16] Speaker 5: But they could go from 22 to 60 to be
[1:09:18] Speaker 5: a play-in team. It wouldn't shock me at all. I
[1:09:21] Speaker 5: think they're going to be the surprise team in the league.
[1:09:23] Speaker 6: So you mean– so you just said that you think
[1:09:26] Speaker 6: that this would be powered by Darren Peterson, right?
[1:09:29] Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
[1:09:30] Speaker 6: So you got an average 27.
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: Got an average 24.
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: Two.
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: And you say 14. The rookie going to come in
[1:09:37] Speaker 3: and be the lead. No, we got to do the
[1:09:39] Speaker 3: rest of the math. That's all I was about to do. No, no,
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: I ain't even going that far. Jaron Jackson Jr.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Is averaging 22.
[1:09:43] Speaker 3: Ain't even going that far. Ace averaging 14. Isaiah Collier
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: is averaging 11.
[1:09:48] Speaker 6: We're talking about.
[1:09:50] Speaker 3: All these guys. Look at our man out. Right now,
[1:09:53] Speaker 3: the rookie is the odd man out. Somebody's going to
[1:09:56] Speaker 3: be the odd man out.
[1:09:57] Speaker 6: Right now, as it's stated, as the roster is right now,
[1:10:01] Speaker 6: rookie is the odd man out.
[1:10:02] Speaker 2: 100%.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: You got Jaron Jackson.
[1:10:04] Speaker 6: You got a guy that's 27 to 24 in his league.
[1:10:07] Speaker 6: Those numbers are not going to go down. You can't
[1:10:10] Speaker 6: expect them.
[1:10:10] Speaker 3: To take it back. Jaron averages 22. Jaron averages 22.
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: So you can't expect them to take it back. They
[1:10:16] Speaker 3: all be there. More than likely not.
[1:10:17] Speaker 6: But as of right now, as we sit on this couch,
[1:10:19] Speaker 6: the roster is. You have to move. You just have
[1:10:22] Speaker 6: the number two pick. You have the number five pick.
[1:10:26] Speaker 6: Lorne Morgan average 27. Keontae George average 24. And they
[1:10:28] Speaker 6: went 22 and 60.
[1:10:29] Speaker 3: So they know that. Yes.
[1:10:34] Speaker 5: Winning, as they used to say, cures cancer. Like you
[1:10:37] Speaker 5: start to win games, everybody's going to say, wait a second.
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: This works.
[1:10:40] Speaker 3: At what point during the season last year did they
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: start to tank?
[1:10:44] Speaker 6: When the ball went up game one.
[1:10:45] Speaker 3: Yes, from the start. They did not have any plans
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: on winning, so we can't say that that record reflects
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: their mentality of going out there. But why did they take, though?
[1:10:54] Speaker 3: Because they wanted this pick. They didn't want Darren Peterson, though.
[1:10:58] Speaker 3: They wanted A.J. DeBonson. They wanted to build around a
[1:11:01] Speaker 3: guy that they can move. Then you can move Ace Bailey,
[1:11:04] Speaker 3: for sure.
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: That was, you know, according to plan, the BYU, all
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: that stuff seemed a little interesting.
[1:11:09] Speaker 3: Obviously, Ryan Smith. I mean, it makes sense.
[1:11:10] Speaker 5: And he played his last year of high school.
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: He played.
[1:11:13] Speaker 3: You can't script it.
[1:11:14] Speaker 6: Though that's the thing about it right you did all.
[1:11:15] Speaker 3: That shit and another team got your guy For right now.
[1:11:20] Speaker 3: We thought we was going to get the number one
[1:11:22] Speaker 3: pick anyway.
[1:11:22] Speaker 6: Right now.
[1:11:22] Speaker 3: They won the pick in the lottery, so it was
[1:11:24] Speaker 3: like we thought we had the best chances to get that.
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: There could be a strong army happening in the near future.
[1:11:29] Speaker 3: But if you really wanted him, you had trade assets
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: to trade, too. For the number one pick. Just to
[1:11:35] Speaker 3: move up.
[1:11:35] Speaker 4: You could trade to the number two, Jared Jackson or something, Larkland.
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:11:40] Speaker 3: Not if we got AD already.
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: But you got George.
[1:11:44] Speaker 1: You got everybody.
[1:11:45] Speaker 3: We got George. We got Trae Young. We got Trae
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: Young and A.D. These are two pieces y'all are already
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: happy at. Do you think the.
[1:11:51] Speaker 6: Washington Post just picked the phone up and entertained any
[1:11:53] Speaker 6: of that shit?
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: Nope.
[1:11:54] Speaker 3: When you got A.J. DeBosso to pick it, number one.
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: Tell me what you want. I'm sending you the voicemail.
[1:11:59] Speaker 2: So they didn't entertain.
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: It, right?
[1:12:00] Speaker 5: No.
[1:12:01] Speaker 3: You stuck with Darren Peterson. That's basically what they said.
[1:12:04] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[1:12:04] Speaker 4: If you're not entertaining, nobody be bringing you. You think
[1:12:07] Speaker 4: Peterson ain't going to be, he ain't going to lead
[1:12:09] Speaker 4: that team?
[1:12:10] Speaker 3: He's the best available, but remember what I just said.
[1:12:13] Speaker 3: Where you get drafted matters, bro.
[1:12:15] Speaker 6: Nick, you got a guy that's 27 in this league
[1:12:17] Speaker 6: and 24.
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: We've seen this before, though.
[1:12:20] Speaker 3: Where we seen it from? Where? Give me an example.
[1:12:23] Speaker 3: Please give me an example.
[1:12:24] Speaker 6: When you got a guy that averaged 27 and.
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: 24, and then you bring in another.
[1:12:28] Speaker 6: Guy that averaged 22.
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: And you bring in another rookie to be over all
[1:12:32] Speaker 3: of them. Cooper Flagg.
[1:12:34] Speaker 4: Did people on this team average 27? They all went.
[1:12:37] Speaker 3: Down, man. They didn't play no minutes. And they all go.
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: We've seen it before. But that's not the same thing.
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: It is.
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: No, it's not. Because Keontae George is not hurt. He
[1:12:47] Speaker 3: didn't play one minute with Kyrie Irving.
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: It don't matter.
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: It does matter. It matters for sure, bro. It does matter.
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: If I'm drafted number two pick, that's going to be
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: my guy. You've seen LeBron. You've seen the fucking Carmelo Anthony.
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: Those guys average 20-something. They came in, move out the way.
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving being healthy in Dallas. Kyrie healthy in Dallas.
[1:13:08] Speaker 6: Who did Carmelo have to move out the way when
[1:13:09] Speaker 6: he got to Denver as a rookie?
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: Who was on Cleveland? Answer my question, Nick.
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: Who was on Cleveland?
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: Answer my question. You just said Denver. You just said Denver. No, no, no, no.
[1:13:18] Speaker 2: It happened.
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: You said Carmelo came in. Who was on Cleveland? Who
[1:13:22] Speaker 3: did Melo have to move out the way?
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: Who was on Cleveland?
[1:13:25] Speaker 3: Who did Melo? No, we'll get to Cleveland. Let's go
[1:13:27] Speaker 3: back to the first state. You get to Cleveland. We'll
[1:13:29] Speaker 3: get to that one. But who did Melo have to
[1:13:32] Speaker 3: move out the way? Ricky Davis. Ricky Davis. Who did
[1:13:33] Speaker 3: Melo have to move out the way? Larry.
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: Larry.
[1:13:35] Speaker 3: Who averaged 27 and 24 and 22 in Denver when
[1:13:37] Speaker 3: Melo got there as a rookie? Nobody.
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: Nobody.
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: All right, well. You asking my question? Where's Tony on
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: the Cleveland?
[1:13:49] Speaker 3: Spirit of discussion about Ricky Davis.
[1:13:53] Speaker 2: This is a good problem.
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: That's what you call a good problem. You figure this out.
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: You've got firepower.
[1:14:01] Speaker 5: You're going to make people sweat trying to defend you
[1:14:04] Speaker 5: because they all can hurt you.
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: But your main guy, the guy you're saying is going
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: to be the main guy, is not going to be
[1:14:10] Speaker 3: the main guy. He's going to be the guy we're
[1:14:12] Speaker 3: looking at. Hey, Rook, you don't think Jaron Jackson is
[1:14:15] Speaker 3: looking at you? Hey, look, Rook, I know you good.
[1:14:17] Speaker 3: They'll know. I know you good.
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: They'll see.
[1:14:20] Speaker 3: I played with Ja Morant, bro. You not Ja. Yes,
[1:14:25] Speaker 3: he is. It's not Ja Morant, bro. You feel like
[1:14:28] Speaker 3: Derrick Peters is not walking in there like... No, I'm
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: saying you haven't... I played with a proven guy like
[1:14:33] Speaker 3: Ja Morant. So I defer to him. You're not Ja.
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: You're not Ja.
[1:14:40] Speaker 4: You got to get in the starting lineup, though.
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: First, you got three hours. You're going to start in line.
[1:14:45] Speaker 3: Darren's going to start. Darren Peters is going to start. No,
[1:14:48] Speaker 3: I'm not.
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: Talking about Darren Peters.
[1:14:49] Speaker 3: Hell yeah, you got to prove. To Jaron Jackson. That
[1:14:52] Speaker 3: I'm going to be passing it to you like I
[1:14:54] Speaker 3: was passing it to John? Yeah. You're a rookie. You're
[1:14:58] Speaker 3: a rookie. He ain't pulled nothing either. He got one award.
[1:15:02] Speaker 3: He's defensive player of the year. Okay. What he got
[1:15:06] Speaker 3: to do? Max, Max player. I'm the second player. All
[1:15:10] Speaker 3: NBA player, Max player. Once you get drafted, nothing else
[1:15:15] Speaker 3: matters no more. That shit is over with. You got
[1:15:18] Speaker 3: to prove it. He could come in and be like... Could, but.
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's shift over to another draft pick
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: that created some buzz. Darius Acuff Jr., viewed as a
[1:15:29] Speaker 1: top-five pick, ended up sliding to the Kings at seven,
[1:15:33] Speaker 1: with some word circulating about potential work ethic and chemistry
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: issues with teammates in college. Unable to verify, though, he
[1:15:39] Speaker 1: was a bucket and a baller. Ended up working out
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: for both sides, though. Reports Acuff's camp wanted him in Sacramento.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: So Acuff averaged 24 points, three rebounds, 6.4 assists in
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: his lone season in Arkansas. set program single-season records for
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: points and assists, joins Pete Maravich as the only player
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: in SEC history to lead the conference in scoring and
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: assists in the same season. Mr. B, we'll start with
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: you with your thoughts on the Kings landing Darius Acuff Jr.
[1:16:06] Speaker 3: With the seventh pick.
[1:16:06] Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I know he was in the same conversation,
[1:16:10] Speaker 9: but the numbers were crazy between him and Pistol Pete.
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: We saw yesterday.
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: Pistol Pete had 44.
[1:16:13] Speaker 3: It was a different time, Mr. B. Yeah. But, no,
[1:16:17] Speaker 3: they got a two-point guard. There was no three-point. Yeah,
[1:16:21] Speaker 3: and no three-point line either. So, when they posted that yesterday,
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: we was like, damn.
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: Not coming up off the rock unless he had it.
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: Getting my 40 first.
[1:16:30] Speaker 3: No, but they got a point guard.
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: Shut up, Nick.
[1:16:32] Speaker 3: You know, someone they can use. He was a bit
[1:16:33] Speaker 3: out there getting pissed to people. Man, average 44.
[1:16:36] Speaker 6: Boy, you crazy.
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: Pissed to people. Homework basketball, ladies and gentlemen. You know
[1:16:41] Speaker 3: what you had to have some of the games? With
[1:16:43] Speaker 3: no three-point line. In college?
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: Damn, you dribbling with one hand, man.
[1:16:46] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: 44 is 44. Boy, you used to be saying shit
[1:16:50] Speaker 3: with now looking no highlights or nothing. He used to
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: be saying shit. Man, everybody know who Pistol Pete is.
[1:16:57] Speaker 3: In college. Go ahead, B.
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: Keep going.
[1:17:02] Speaker 3: No, but the Kings, man, they got a point guard.
[1:17:05] Speaker 9: But, you know, with the way that the Kings have
[1:17:07] Speaker 9: been doing their guards lately, like, you know, they didn't
[1:17:10] Speaker 9: value Spock.
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: They didn't value Hallie.
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: So.
[1:17:13] Speaker 9: It's a situation where you've got to be comfortable. I mean,
[1:17:16] Speaker 9: you've got to be careful going over there to Sacramento
[1:17:17] Speaker 9: because they've been dead in the water, too. You know,
[1:17:20] Speaker 9: when they say you go to Sacramento, your career is
[1:17:22] Speaker 9: damn near over. So, in this situation, I mean, they
[1:17:25] Speaker 9: are getting a guy who can, you know, put the
[1:17:28] Speaker 9: ball in the rim, remind me of Dame a little bit.
[1:17:32] Speaker 3: But he's going to be good.
[1:17:33] Speaker 9: It's just, you know, he's over there with DeMar DeRozan
[1:17:34] Speaker 9: and he's over there with Zach Levine.
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: I think the Kings are going to let DeMar walk
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: according to rumors.
[1:17:40] Speaker 9: But, you know, he'll be able to do his thing.
[1:17:42] Speaker 9: It's just You know, Sacramento, they get rid of their
[1:17:44] Speaker 9: young stars. You know, like I said, the last two
[1:17:46] Speaker 9: point guards, they're gone. You see with D-Fox playing in
[1:17:49] Speaker 9: the finals, Howie's been playing in the finals, so.
[1:17:51] Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas, too. Isaiah Thomas, also.
[1:17:54] Speaker 9: So, yeah, they kind of just, you know, this might
[1:17:56] Speaker 9: be a little stop for him, but I don't see
[1:17:58] Speaker 9: him being there too long.
[1:18:00] Speaker 6: Yeah, Sacramento Kings, the new Clippers, man. Get all these
[1:18:04] Speaker 6: draft picks, high draft picks, and don't hold on to them.
[1:18:07] Speaker 6: They end up in other places and have solid careers, so.
[1:18:11] Speaker 6: That's unfortunate for this kid. Hell of a talent. But
[1:18:15] Speaker 6: to end up in Sacramento, you said his team wanted
[1:18:19] Speaker 6: him in Sacramento. No player has said that ever.
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: Stay careful, Kenyon. Yeah, you're going to be playing bingo.
[1:18:27] Speaker 6: That's a tough spot for him, man, for a team
[1:18:29] Speaker 6: that we don't know what they're going to be. You
[1:18:33] Speaker 6: have to go out and ball, though. The beauty of
[1:18:35] Speaker 6: it is he go out and just put his– talent
[1:18:37] Speaker 6: on display, get to go out and learn on the
[1:18:40] Speaker 6: job training. There's nothing better than on the job training.
[1:18:43] Speaker 6: So he got the ball in his hand, he gonna
[1:18:44] Speaker 6: go out and be able to be him. Do what
[1:18:48] Speaker 6: he did in college. I would love that.
[1:18:50] Speaker 3: A first-rounder with freedom.
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: You can learn from him.
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: He has his own team.
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: He can learn from him. Can Russ do a one-year deal?
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: He has his own team.
[1:18:57] Speaker 3: He can learn from him.
[1:18:58] Speaker 9: I like that, but it's the franchise. It's just them.
[1:19:03] Speaker 9: It's just who they are.
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: You can change. But all these franchises, where does this
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: fuck up to? Utah?
[1:19:09] Speaker 3: No, you got to go back to Tyreek Evans, though.
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: Tyreek Evans, yeah, yeah.
[1:19:13] Speaker 3: You got D-Fox. You got Halliburton. Boogie. You got a
[1:19:16] Speaker 3: whole bunch of motherfuckers that literally you got and then
[1:19:20] Speaker 3: you let go. And if this is the turnaround stage,
[1:19:26] Speaker 3: if they're trying to turn it around, they say, we're
[1:19:27] Speaker 3: going to start with you. You're going to really have
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: to build around him because they're going to keep Zach.
[1:19:32] Speaker 3: Zach don't want to leave that money on the table. Zach,
[1:19:34] Speaker 3: one year left in this deal, though. So he going
[1:19:35] Speaker 3: to pick that back up. But what is Zach going
[1:19:37] Speaker 3: to do? You going to play number two? You got to, right?
[1:19:41] Speaker 3: So now who else we got? Keegan Murray and who else?
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: He like that.
[1:19:45] Speaker 3: And who else? Malik Monk. You know, he can still play.
[1:19:50] Speaker 3: So you got Malik and Zach, them two guards. And really,
[1:19:53] Speaker 3: Acuff ain't no real point guard. He's Allen Iverson. He's
[1:19:57] Speaker 3: Allen Iverson.
[1:19:58] Speaker 6: They picked Anthony Carter's son last year.
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, they picked AC's son last year. Devin Carter and
[1:20:05] Speaker 3: Nick Clifford. Yeah, they picked guards last year.
[1:20:08] Speaker 6: So that's what I mean. A situation like this, man,
[1:20:11] Speaker 6: you just, I understand he's the best available talent, but
[1:20:14] Speaker 6: you just picking the same kind of.
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: Kings are in an interesting spot, though.
[1:20:18] Speaker 3: Sleep at the wheel. He don't know what the fuck
[1:20:20] Speaker 3: he's doing. Sleep at the wheel.
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: Got a lot of guys on the last year of
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: their deals trying to move Sabonis.
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: He about to move him.
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: They're going to have a ton of cap space, 27, 28.
[1:20:27] Speaker 6: The fact that he came out recently, I don't know
[1:20:30] Speaker 6: if it was recently he admitted, I saw the Vladi team,
[1:20:32] Speaker 6: about the Luka shit, right?
[1:20:33] Speaker 3: I seen it. The fact that you didn't pick Luka
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: because you. Felt like De'Aaron Files was a better talent.
[1:20:39] Speaker 1: Might have been mad at his dad too.
[1:20:42] Speaker 3: Vlade Divac said he picked De'Aaron Fox over Luka because
[1:20:45] Speaker 3: he felt like De'Aaron was the better player. And Vlade
[1:20:48] Speaker 3: still got a job. That's the crazy shit. Yeah. And
[1:20:52] Speaker 3: every time Luka play against the Kings, he looking up
[1:20:55] Speaker 3: in the skybox like, motherfucker, Pichku Matika. Yeah, I didn't
[1:20:58] Speaker 3: Pichku Matika.
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: They all got traded.
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: Pichku Matika. They all got traded.
[1:21:05] Speaker 2: They all got traded.
[1:21:06] Speaker 6: But still, you could have. Could have drafted Luka.
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: Kings projected to have about $ 100 million in cap space
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: next season. After this one.
[1:21:15] Speaker 3: You mean like to give to free agents?
[1:21:16] Speaker 1: Summer of 2027.
[1:21:17] Speaker 3: They want to go to SAC?
[1:21:18] Speaker 1: Well, they're going to strong arm you. Have to put
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: a little bit more on that bag. Take you to
[1:21:23] Speaker 1: one of the seven chilis in the metropolitan.
[1:21:24] Speaker 6: And they're going to continue to have that cap space.
[1:21:28] Speaker 3: Somebody's going to want that bread. May not be who
[1:21:31] Speaker 3: you want. You got to go get that money. Cowbells.
[1:21:37] Speaker 6: They're going to be way overpaying.
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this thing. Shout out Darius Acuff.
[1:21:42] Speaker 1: Wishing you all the best as you begin your NBA journey.
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: But you don't like that?
[1:21:46] Speaker 3: You know who's going to go there? As a rookie?
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: You know who's going to go there?
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: What you thinking, Skip?
[1:21:48] Speaker 3: What you thinking about Darius, man? What you think about
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: Darius Acuff? I can see them doing that.
[1:21:54] Speaker 5: So, I'm a big fan.
[1:21:59] Speaker 3: It is Glaze Wednesday, Skip.
[1:22:01] Speaker 5: It is. But I watched him a lot last year. Unfortunately,
[1:22:05] Speaker 5: several times against my school, Vanderbilt. and he just tore
[1:22:08] Speaker 5: us apart because he is high character and just stays
[1:22:15] Speaker 5: in attack mode. He's got a great handle, and he
[1:22:20] Speaker 5: had Keontae George numbers, 24 and six assists, so it's
[1:22:24] Speaker 5: the same idea, but the six managed to lead the SEC,
[1:22:28] Speaker 5: which it's hard to believe that would lead the conference.
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: But it did.
[1:22:32] Speaker 5: But the 24 in that conference was highly impressive, and
[1:22:38] Speaker 5: I'll be watching the Kings next year just because of him.
[1:22:42] Speaker 5: And I'm not sure. I watched bits and pieces of
[1:22:44] Speaker 5: him last year, but I never watched a full game.
[1:22:46] Speaker 5: But I'll watch Darius Acuff Jr. operate, and I hope
[1:22:50] Speaker 5: they allow him to operate because he's going to be
[1:22:56] Speaker 5: the only reason to watch. And their odds right now
[1:22:59] Speaker 5: are the bottom of the barrel worst in their odds.
[1:23:04] Speaker 5: Vegas odds are the worst next year. So they have
[1:23:07] Speaker 5: the longest shot to win it all, and at least
[1:23:11] Speaker 5: they have this kid. And you mentioned the Clippers that
[1:23:15] Speaker 5: are becoming the Clippers. I couldn't believe the Clippers didn't
[1:23:17] Speaker 5: take Darius Acuff at five.
[1:23:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
[1:23:19] Speaker 5: Because they took Keaton Wagler, and I'm just not a fan.
[1:23:25] Speaker 5: Wagler came out of nowhere, and it's like he was
[1:23:28] Speaker 5: looking around saying, wait.
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: I'm doing this? Yeah.
[1:23:32] Speaker 5: Oh, now put him in your league and see what happens.
[1:23:34] Speaker 5: He's going to be like, what? What just happened? Everybody's
[1:23:38] Speaker 5: way better.
[1:23:39] Speaker 3: Oh, oh, okay. He wasn't the best guy on his
[1:23:41] Speaker 3: team to me.
[1:23:42] Speaker 2: He was not.
[1:23:42] Speaker 3: I thought a little Stojakovic.
[1:23:44] Speaker 1: Hey, Stojakovic.
[1:23:45] Speaker 3: He was. They brought him up to be a specialist,
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: but that kid can go-go. Like, I really liked him.
[1:23:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:23:54] Speaker 5: And he fell into Vlade's lap at seven, and it
[1:23:58] Speaker 5: was like a happy accident. And yet, to your point,
[1:24:02] Speaker 5: I don't know where they're going. I don't know. So
[1:24:04] Speaker 5: you're going to pay Zach. You're going to have to
[1:24:06] Speaker 5: pay him $ 49 million. And I don't know.
[1:24:08] Speaker 3: The bonus is still there. $ 49 million?
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: You try to move the bonus. You try to move Zach.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you have a ton of cap space.
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: Yeah. So the bonus is still there?
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: The bonus is still there, but they're looking to move him.
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: He's got two years left on his deal. They don't
[1:24:20] Speaker 1: value none of them people.
[1:24:22] Speaker 2: They just.
[1:24:22] Speaker 3: God. It's like a.
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: Zach Levine, play her off for 49 mil. We will
[1:24:26] Speaker 1: see what happens on that one. What they saying about Acuff?
[1:24:30] Speaker 1: He didn't work hard? I mean, some reports coming out.
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: Where do these narratives come from? They come from people
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: who don't want to. Acuff, very good team.
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: It's a narrative.
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: Got Yoda on his side. Hey, man.
[1:24:43] Speaker 3: And they stick crazy.
[1:24:45] Speaker 5: Hey, he shot 44% from three last year in the SEC.
[1:24:47] Speaker 3: It's hard, man. It's hard.
[1:24:51] Speaker 2: He's legit. He had 50.
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: He's going to make the Kings an exciting team to watch.
[1:24:59] Speaker 2: He will.
[1:25:00] Speaker 5: He just will. I wish he were like three inches taller.
[1:25:03] Speaker 5: He's about 6'3.
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: Let's keep this thing moving.
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[1:26:03] Speaker 1: I know y'all touched on it a little bit yesterday,
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: but let's dive in a little more. So after months
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: of speculation, the Bucks and Giannis saga finally came to
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: conclusion Monday with Milwaukee sending the two-time MVP's talents to
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: South Beach in a blockbuster trade with the Miami Heat.
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: So the Heat acquired Giannis and Bobby Portis from the Bucks,
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: with the Bucks getting Tyler Hero, Khalir Ware, Jaime Jaquez Jr.,
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: Kasperis Yacachunas, got that right, Three first-round picks, including the
[1:26:34] Speaker 1: number 13 pick in the draft, which they used to
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: take Tennessee freshman forward Nate Amitt, along with unprotected first-rounders
[1:26:41] Speaker 1: in 2031 and 2033, and a 2030 first-round pick swap,
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: as well as a 2033 second-round pick.
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: So before the trade.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Got announced Monday, Giannis put up this cryptic post on
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: his IG, signaling that it was about to go down.
[1:26:55] Speaker 1: He said, God, I trusted you at the beginning, and
[1:26:57] Speaker 1: I will continue to trust you throughout. Black prayer hands,
[1:27:01] Speaker 1: 100 emoji. Giannis appeared in 36 games this season. He
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: averaged 28 points, 10 rebounds, 5.4 assists per game. Leaves
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: Milwaukee as the greatest player in team history with multiple
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: franchise records, along with two MVPs, a chip, a finals MVP,
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: 10 all-star selections, nine all-NBA selections, including seven first teams,
[1:27:20] Speaker 1: defensive player of the year in five all-defensive selections.
[1:27:23] Speaker 3: Mr. B, Mr.
[1:27:25] Speaker 2: Bucks, Mr. 414.
[1:27:26] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:27:29] Speaker 1: Bittersweet day in Milwaukee. The Giannis Antetokounmpo era comes so close.
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: The Nassus still has the potential to come back to
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: the squad to keep the Antetokounmpo legacy alive and well.
[1:27:38] Speaker 1: The Antetokounmpo store next to the Trade Hotel has been
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: frequented by yours truly. Shout out to them. But what's
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: your reaction to the Bucs trading Giannis to the Heat?
[1:27:48] Speaker 3: I mean, it was bittersweet. It's a relationship that needed
[1:27:53] Speaker 3: a breakup.
[1:27:54] Speaker 9: I think if you would have kept it going and
[1:27:56] Speaker 9: lingering it, it would have ended up really bad. Giannis,
[1:28:01] Speaker 9: to me, is the staple of what a professional athlete
[1:28:04] Speaker 9: is supposed to be when it comes to, I mean,
[1:28:06] Speaker 9: especially going through the league, but also with the Bucs,
[1:28:10] Speaker 9: working hard. You know, they said he wasn't going to
[1:28:13] Speaker 9: be a MVP, he wasn't going to do this, wasn't
[1:28:15] Speaker 9: going to.
[1:28:15] Speaker 3: Be all that, and did everything. So, you know, the
[1:28:19] Speaker 3: Bucs got what they wanted.
[1:28:19] Speaker 9: You know, they drafted someone, and, you know, we're just
[1:28:22] Speaker 9: looking at the draft, but when you draft a player,
[1:28:24] Speaker 9: you know, you're hoping that you get the best and
[1:28:25] Speaker 9: you get the most out of that draft pick. And
[1:28:27] Speaker 9: they did with Giannis for 13 years. And he brought
[1:28:31] Speaker 9: excitement and he brought something to the city that they've
[1:28:34] Speaker 9: never seen in 50 years.
[1:28:36] Speaker 3: So to me, he did his job.
[1:28:38] Speaker 9: The the bucks they tried to do the best they
[1:28:40] Speaker 9: could to bring pieces to come help them like dame
[1:28:42] Speaker 9: lillard they got a top 75 and dame lillard to
[1:28:44] Speaker 9: come to the team they got drew holiday that's a
[1:28:46] Speaker 9: hall of famer uh chris middleton uh pj tucker so
[1:28:50] Speaker 9: they you know they had great run now i think
[1:28:52] Speaker 9: it's just time to it's time for a new beginning
[1:28:56] Speaker 9: Giannis is going to go off in Miami, do his thing, and,
[1:28:59] Speaker 9: you know, wish him nothing but the best.
[1:29:00] Speaker 3: That's all you can.
[1:29:01] Speaker 1: Do you have any tough crowd-themed Miami Heat gear? Yep.
[1:29:05] Speaker 3: I'm already working on it. Black and red.
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: White and red.
[1:29:07] Speaker 3: I was talking to Kenny about it yesterday.
[1:29:08] Speaker 1: Good man.
[1:29:08] Speaker 3: Got to change the colors a little bit. Change the
[1:29:10] Speaker 3: color what?
[1:29:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: All right, Skip, I'll shift over to you. Obviously, this
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: Giannis trade finally reaches conclusion. Giannis going to South Beach.
[1:29:19] Speaker 1: Pat Riley finally gets a superstar that he's been coveting
[1:29:22] Speaker 1: for many, many seasons now. What's your reaction to Giannis?
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: Getting traded to the Heat.
[1:29:27] Speaker 5: I hope it works at the highest level because I do.
[1:29:32] Speaker 5: I really like Pat. I got to know him a
[1:29:34] Speaker 5: little back in the Showtime Laker days. He's been looking,
[1:29:39] Speaker 5: as you suggest, for his next LeBron since 2014. LeBron
[1:29:44] Speaker 5: said that's enough, Pat. They began to clash. Pat's tough.
[1:29:52] Speaker 5: The idea of Giannis bringing his whole family and brothers
[1:29:55] Speaker 5: and all, Pat's not going to love that. But maybe
[1:29:59] Speaker 5: at 81, Pat's mellowed a little bit because it's been
[1:30:02] Speaker 5: a long drought for him. And maybe he makes some
[1:30:06] Speaker 5: concessions to Giannis and family. I just, I'm not sure
[1:30:11] Speaker 5: about the makeup of the team. It's like Pat finally said, okay,
[1:30:14] Speaker 5: I give up. I'm going to trade two-thirds of my
[1:30:16] Speaker 5: team to Milwaukee. And I do think you got a
[1:30:18] Speaker 5: nice haul. I do think, and I liked your two
[1:30:21] Speaker 5: picks last night. And I think you'll be better than
[1:30:24] Speaker 5: people think going forward in Milwaukee next year. But Giannis
[1:30:30] Speaker 5: and Bam, I'm not sure about the fit. And then
[1:30:35] Speaker 5: is Norman Powell coming back?
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: No. No? I don't think he'd take that.
[1:30:41] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:30:41] Speaker 5: And Andrew Wiggins, so you've got aging players everywhere. Is
[1:30:46] Speaker 5: Davian Mitchell your point guard? Are you going to go
[1:30:50] Speaker 5: get one in free agency? No. I don't know, Bobby
[1:30:53] Speaker 5: Portis can come in and do some things, maybe come
[1:30:55] Speaker 5: off the bench as your sixth man. But the odds skyrocketed.
[1:31:03] Speaker 5: So I do like that. So the odds makers are
[1:31:05] Speaker 5: saying we do like this because you've got Oklahoma City
[1:31:08] Speaker 5: and San Antonio in a league of their own in odds.
[1:31:11] Speaker 5: Then you have the Celtics and Knicks on the next
[1:31:13] Speaker 5: echelon level. And then there's the Heat, the fifth best odds.
[1:31:18] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:31:20] Speaker 5: I just don't. I'm not sure how the team comes together,
[1:31:25] Speaker 5: but Pat got his draw. He got his gate attraction.
[1:31:29] Speaker 5: He got his super-duper star. And yet, we've talked this
[1:31:34] Speaker 5: to death, it's been a while for Giannis since he,
[1:31:37] Speaker 5: as Michael Wilbon suggested, since he did anything in the postseason,
[1:31:41] Speaker 5: and you can make legit excuses for all of the above.
[1:31:46] Speaker 5: I just... For Pat Riley's sake, I'm rooting for Pat here.
[1:31:49] Speaker 5: I hope it detonates. I hope it clicks. And I'm
[1:31:54] Speaker 5: not sure that it will because I'm not sure that
[1:31:59] Speaker 5: there's enough left in the cupboard around Giannis and Bam
[1:32:04] Speaker 5: to make it go the way the oddsmakers are saying
[1:32:07] Speaker 5: it's going to go.
[1:32:11] Speaker 1: God, I see you rubbing your hands together. Seems like
[1:32:15] Speaker 1: a retort is imminent. What do you think about that situation, Giannis?
[1:32:18] Speaker 3: Two things. I got to clean it up because I
[1:32:21] Speaker 3: want it to be a real take without the cuss words.
[1:32:25] Speaker 3: I got to know what the hell happened with Giannis
[1:32:27] Speaker 3: and the Bucs first. What the hell happened? We need
[1:32:31] Speaker 3: to know and address the elephant in the room that
[1:32:33] Speaker 3: broke up that train because you get rid of Drew,
[1:32:37] Speaker 3: you get rid of Chris, you get rid of the coach,
[1:32:40] Speaker 3: you get rid of Dame, you get rid of the
[1:32:43] Speaker 3: coach again. Now you get rid of Giannis. So something's
[1:32:48] Speaker 3: happened where it wasn't a good fit for a long time.
[1:32:54] Speaker 3: They dismantled this team, brought his brothers on to appease him,
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: and now they got rid of him. That's one. I've
[1:33:01] Speaker 3: always said I didn't like that Giannis wanted to move
[1:33:04] Speaker 3: on and jump ship and get out of his own
[1:33:05] Speaker 3: throne and go somewhere else. But now he can create
[1:33:08] Speaker 3: a new throne in a new place. That's great. Because Bam,
[1:33:12] Speaker 3: I guess, doesn't seem fit to be the king of
[1:33:14] Speaker 3: Miami It's what Pat Riley sent in the message. So
[1:33:19] Speaker 3: now we look at Miami. All right. I say Miami
[1:33:23] Speaker 3: needs to do two things. They need to go get
[1:33:24] Speaker 3: Clay Thompson. They need to go get Russell Respera. Got
[1:33:28] Speaker 3: a shooter, facilitator, Davion Mitchell, pushing back to the bench.
[1:33:32] Speaker 3: And you got a guy who's known for getting his
[1:33:34] Speaker 3: teammates involved, being able to defend and do certain things
[1:33:38] Speaker 3: that the offense needs. You got Bam, road rise guy.
[1:33:44] Speaker 3: You got Giannis, road rim guy. Dunker, alley-oop guy, moves
[1:33:48] Speaker 3: into transition. Russ throws it up fast, and you got
[1:33:51] Speaker 3: Klay Thompson over there ready to shoot. I say you
[1:33:55] Speaker 3: go get Luke Kinnard, too. So you got two shooters
[1:33:59] Speaker 3: ready and willing to do what they need. Andrew Wiggins,
[1:34:03] Speaker 3: he's going to be Andrew Wiggins. We don't know which
[1:34:05] Speaker 3: one's going to show up, but at least you got
[1:34:07] Speaker 3: a guy that's going to give you 12, 14, and
[1:34:11] Speaker 3: he's going to play solid defense. He's going to run
[1:34:13] Speaker 3: the floor. He's going to be ready. Getting rid of
[1:34:16] Speaker 3: Khalil Ware was one thing that I thought was detrimental
[1:34:19] Speaker 3: because I thought he would be a new star. So
[1:34:23] Speaker 3: keeping Bam and getting rid of Tyler Hero and Jaquez,
[1:34:29] Speaker 3: they needed to do something. So them doing those three things,
[1:34:33] Speaker 3: getting rid of those three guys, meant something because I
[1:34:35] Speaker 3: don't think Sposter really liked Khalil Ware. Bam has been
[1:34:39] Speaker 3: his guy. Bam has been Pat's guy. But now that
[1:34:42] Speaker 3: you got Giannis, you're going to have to deal with
[1:34:44] Speaker 3: what Giannis was doing. Bring him to the table with
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: the Bucs. If Giannis is the problem with the Bucs
[1:34:50] Speaker 3: whole debacle, Pat's got a new monster on his hand.
[1:34:55] Speaker 3: And the last thing you want to do is clash
[1:34:58] Speaker 3: with Pat or clash with Eric's poster because Eric ain't
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: going nowhere. This ain't Doc. This ain't Adrian Griffin. Like,
[1:35:08] Speaker 3: whatever you're not pleased with, your brother's not coming down.
[1:35:11] Speaker 3: Your brother's not getting no roster spot. What you going
[1:35:14] Speaker 3: to do? Move them in, they can rebound for you,
[1:35:16] Speaker 3: but we're not appeasing you. So this all looked kind
[1:35:20] Speaker 3: of sticky to me. We're going to find out the
[1:35:23] Speaker 3: answers later like we found out with LeBron. We found
[1:35:25] Speaker 3: out the cookies after he went back to Cleveland. This
[1:35:28] Speaker 3: is what Pat did. He took the cookies. LeBron, he
[1:35:31] Speaker 3: got mad and he left. God damn, we didn't know that.
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: So we need to figure out what happened in Milwaukee
[1:35:36] Speaker 3: with Giannis not wanting to be there. And they need
[1:35:38] Speaker 3: to make some moves to appease him. as he's in Miami,
[1:35:43] Speaker 3: get him some shooters and a facilitator. And I think
[1:35:46] Speaker 3: Russ and Clay Thompson, Luke Kinnar may be it.
[1:35:51] Speaker 1: Okay, let's shift over to you, looking at Giannis in
[1:35:55] Speaker 1: that situation. Good move by the Heat.
[1:36:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent move by the Heat.
[1:36:04] Speaker 6: Like I stated, whatever team acquired Giannis' service next year
[1:36:09] Speaker 6: will benefit from it. That's how he approached the game.
[1:36:13] Speaker 6: He put bodies in seats. He's a must-see TV. It
[1:36:20] Speaker 6: just depends on what they do with the rest of
[1:36:21] Speaker 6: the roster, like we all know. I think Pat understands
[1:36:24] Speaker 6: what he has in Giannis, what he has in Bam.
[1:36:27] Speaker 6: To put the right roster around those two pieces, I
[1:36:31] Speaker 6: think Pat knows how to do that. Handicapped in a
[1:36:35] Speaker 6: way because of salary cap things and first aprons and
[1:36:40] Speaker 6: all of it's, it's a whole mess in that regard,
[1:36:43] Speaker 6: but that's why him and the people that work under
[1:36:46] Speaker 6: him get paid the big bucks, right. It's to figure
[1:36:48] Speaker 6: it out is to put a, uh, high quality product
[1:36:53] Speaker 6: on the floor. Um, it starts with Yon, it starts
[1:36:56] Speaker 6: with Bam. And I think them tweaking that roster in
[1:36:59] Speaker 6: a way to go out and compete to Rashad's point,
[1:37:02] Speaker 6: getting shooters, right. Getting facilitators, getting shooters is first and foremost. Um,
[1:37:08] Speaker 6: getting you a point guard that understands flow, understands shots
[1:37:13] Speaker 6: and who needs the ball and getting shooters on the
[1:37:17] Speaker 6: floor I think is key. But it was a power
[1:37:19] Speaker 6: move by Pat Riley, which he's known to make, getting
[1:37:24] Speaker 6: stars and superstars in his league to buy into what
[1:37:27] Speaker 6: the Heat message is and what the Heat believe in.
[1:37:30] Speaker 6: Giannis has proven over the years that he's not afraid
[1:37:34] Speaker 6: of the work. He's put the work in since day one.
[1:37:39] Speaker 6: skinny kid that came in and become two-time league MVP,
[1:37:43] Speaker 6: defensive player of the year, finals MVP, all those things,
[1:37:47] Speaker 6: doesn't come from hard work. Lack of hard work, that is.
[1:37:53] Speaker 6: So I think he fits right in to what the
[1:37:55] Speaker 6: Miami Heat culture is and just putting the right pieces
[1:37:58] Speaker 6: around him. So, yeah, I think he did a good job.
[1:38:01] Speaker 1: Swaggy, I don't know if you've connected with your Milwaukee
[1:38:04] Speaker 1: family about this situation. Still looking for you. I was
[1:38:09] Speaker 1: out there a couple months ago and said.
[1:38:12] Speaker 3: When you see Swaggy on the couch.
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: I've been ignoring him.
[1:38:17] Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep it real.
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: I ain't got it today.
[1:38:22] Speaker 3: I like the Bam and Greek Freak combination for sure.
[1:38:30] Speaker 2: Sure.
[1:38:30] Speaker 4: Bam can shoot the ball. You got a roller. You
[1:38:33] Speaker 4: got somebody. If you put them in elbow pick and roll,
[1:38:38] Speaker 4: that could be dangerous, them two playing together. But just
[1:38:43] Speaker 4: seeing Giannis in a Heat jersey, it was kind of nasty.
[1:38:46] Speaker 4: I got to see it. I got to see why
[1:38:49] Speaker 4: they didn't do the Boston trade.
[1:38:56] Speaker 2: I think.
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: Jalen Brown was a better, it would have been a
[1:39:01] Speaker 3: better trade than Hero.
[1:39:03] Speaker 4: But obviously, going to Miami, you get your own team.
[1:39:07] Speaker 4: I feel like for the Greek freak, instead of going
[1:39:10] Speaker 4: to Boston.
[1:39:10] Speaker 2: Where you're playing Robin, in a sense.
[1:39:17] Speaker 4: But now, I think bending that heat, you could, you
[1:39:20] Speaker 4: won't have that many injuries. It's always cold in Milwaukee.
[1:39:23] Speaker 4: It's cold as hell, it's nothing to do. Miami, you
[1:39:26] Speaker 4: get a little more, you know, nice weather, breeze. You
[1:39:30] Speaker 4: could take your kids out to the beach, so he
[1:39:33] Speaker 4: might be better for sure.
[1:39:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, get that good lather, baby.
[1:39:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, you get the walk on air.
[1:39:38] Speaker 6: That bitch, boy, hey, you get going early.
[1:39:40] Speaker 3: You playing Robin to Jason Tatum?
[1:39:43] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[1:39:50] Speaker 3: Come on, Swag. The only reason that he would have
[1:39:52] Speaker 3: been playing Robin and Jalen Brunson is because of the championship.
[1:39:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said.
[1:39:57] Speaker 3: The recent championship.
[1:39:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.
[1:40:01] Speaker 6: No, that's a good spot. He landed on his feet.
[1:40:02] Speaker 2: He don't want to trade.
[1:40:03] Speaker 6: This is going to benefit him.
[1:40:06] Speaker 2: Which trade was better there?
[1:40:08] Speaker 3: I think this trade was good.
[1:40:09] Speaker 2: For who? You could have got Jalen Brown.
[1:40:11] Speaker 3: I don't think Milwaukee wanted Jalen Brown. He wouldn't have stayed.
[1:40:15] Speaker 6: I don't think what the Bucs are trying to do,
[1:40:19] Speaker 6: I don't think they wanted Jalen Brown.
[1:40:20] Speaker 1: I don't think they were convinced that he would want
[1:40:21] Speaker 1: to stay in Milwaukee. You got Jalen Brown, two first-round picks,
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: I think.
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: I don't think the Bucs have done anything from Milwaukee.
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: I'm just saying what the reports were. I dig it.
[1:40:32] Speaker 6: I'm just saying with all those things said and reported.
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: I think Jalen Brown may have alluded to he wouldn't
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: have minded to be in Milwaukee and.
[1:40:41] Speaker 3: Be the guy there, but. I think he minded being
[1:40:43] Speaker 3: in trade talk period after what he did. I think
[1:40:47] Speaker 3: it was more of a surprise that you would.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: After having his favorite season of his career. To see
[1:40:55] Speaker 1: the backlash after taking the ungrateful asses to the two seed,
[1:40:59] Speaker 1: even though they did advance past the first round.
[1:41:02] Speaker 3: They're going to be a hell of a defensive team
[1:41:03] Speaker 3: just so you know. Man, them two. Them two.
[1:41:07] Speaker 2: How about that?
[1:41:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be good. Depending on who else they get, though. Yeah,
[1:41:11] Speaker 3: I'm going to say it. I mean, Wiggins is solid.
[1:41:14] Speaker 6: No Davion Mitchell. Listen, Davion Mitchell starts it all, bro.
[1:41:17] Speaker 3: He does. But if he's coming off the bench, if
[1:41:19] Speaker 3: you start him, it's different. If they don't make another move.
[1:41:21] Speaker 3: Coming off the bench, you're going to need another guy.
[1:41:22] Speaker 3: You got to be able to knock down another guy.
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: But I say, they don't make another move. He can shoot.
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: They will.
[1:41:29] Speaker 1: Skip, like you mentioned, after the trade went down, he
[1:41:31] Speaker 1: moved into the fifth best odds to win the chip
[1:41:33] Speaker 1: next season. All the team you mentioned, which they're also
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: projected to be a top three team in the East
[1:41:39] Speaker 1: next season based. on them odds. But how much does
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: Giannis really move the needle for this? He's squatting these.
[1:41:48] Speaker 5: For, for the box, you say?
[1:41:50] Speaker 1: No, for the heat.
[1:41:51] Speaker 3: Oh, for the heat?
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you agree with those, those odds assessment?
[1:41:56] Speaker 5: Not yet, but this is hard to discuss because I
[1:41:59] Speaker 5: don't know what Pat's got up his sleeve. It's, it's
[1:42:01] Speaker 5: all going to break next week. And you see what
[1:42:05] Speaker 5: he puts around.
[1:42:07] Speaker 3: I agree.
[1:42:08] Speaker 5: I love Davion Mitchell on one end of the floor,
[1:42:10] Speaker 5: but I don't know how you, if you could do like,
[1:42:14] Speaker 5: you know, hockey and play it.
[1:42:18] Speaker 6: I understand, yeah, they got their deficiencies, but as long
[1:42:21] Speaker 6: as you're willing to work on it, man, you can
[1:42:23] Speaker 6: shoot 40% from three, man. He can shoot 40% from three.
[1:42:26] Speaker 3: Damn, man. Davion Mitchell can shoot 40 wide open shots.
[1:42:29] Speaker 3: You get him.
[1:42:31] Speaker 6: He shoot 40 right now? You shootin' four a night,
[1:42:34] Speaker 6: five a night? You can't shoot 40% shooting five threes
[1:42:36] Speaker 6: a night?
[1:42:37] Speaker 5: And Bam started shooting threes. Bam started shooting threes last
[1:42:42] Speaker 5: year and took six a game. That's high shot, 32%, which.
[1:42:47] Speaker 5: Not great, but it helps.
[1:42:49] Speaker 3: 83, Skip.
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:42:50] Speaker 3: 83. Them two together is going to be– Oh, he
[1:42:54] Speaker 3: scored 83. 83. That's all you need to know.
[1:42:56] Speaker 5: Against the Wizards is all you need to know.
[1:42:58] Speaker 1: Them two.
[1:42:58] Speaker 2: I like them two. I ain't going to lie.
[1:42:59] Speaker 3: They're going to compete, man.
[1:43:01] Speaker 6: One thing we know about the Miami Heat, if nothing else,
[1:43:04] Speaker 6: whoever they have on the roster, they're going to compete, right?
[1:43:07] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:43:07] Speaker 6: And I think adding Giannis to that fray enhances that
[1:43:10] Speaker 6: competition value there, right? That competitive value there, right? Because
[1:43:15] Speaker 6: the way– just how he approaches it. and what Pat
[1:43:17] Speaker 6: and Spoha preach, and how I see their approach daily
[1:43:22] Speaker 6: down there. Like, it don't stop. During the summertime, they
[1:43:26] Speaker 6: got them guys with knee pads on working late, so
[1:43:29] Speaker 6: it don't stop.
[1:43:30] Speaker 2: Hasn't been a big combination like this?
[1:43:33] Speaker 3: So, I like it.
[1:43:33] Speaker 2: Hasn't been a big combination like this?
[1:43:35] Speaker 3: In terms of what, skill?
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:43:38] Speaker 3: Just like Tim Duncan, David Robinson type? Yeah, that's it.
[1:43:41] Speaker 2: That was an old David Robinson.
[1:43:44] Speaker 3: Zach Randolph. Zach. Marc Gasol. DeAndre Jordan. Blake. Blake and DeAndre. No,
[1:43:50] Speaker 3: because they move with that ball. That's what I'm saying. Well,
[1:43:53] Speaker 3: you're talking.
[1:43:54] Speaker 4: About as far as skill. Yeah, it's like putting– they
[1:43:59] Speaker 4: could dribble. They could move, shoot, man, shoot.
[1:44:02] Speaker 6: It's a different game.
[1:44:03] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:44:03] Speaker 6: It's a different game.
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: And be together or some shit. It's like putting them
[1:44:06] Speaker 3: two together.
[1:44:07] Speaker 6: But two dominant bigs.
[1:44:08] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:44:08] Speaker 6: It's a different skill set, but just having two dominant
[1:44:10] Speaker 6: bigs is what we're here.
[1:44:11] Speaker 3: Like they're– he's saying as far as the skills two
[1:44:16] Speaker 3: of them is like that but if it.
[1:44:18] Speaker 6: Was transferred to now it equates right just two dominant
[1:44:22] Speaker 6: bigs as well.
[1:44:23] Speaker 3: So we haven't seen anything not like this no not
[1:44:28] Speaker 3: at all not at all but I think it's gonna
[1:44:31] Speaker 3: work I like what I'm saying we gotta trust Pat
[1:44:35] Speaker 3: knows what he's doing right he's put championship teams together
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: before when he's had people to build around right You
[1:44:42] Speaker 3: got Shaq and D-Wade. That's what I was about to
[1:44:44] Speaker 3: go there.
[1:44:45] Speaker 6: You build around that.
[1:44:45] Speaker 3: You got Braun. You build around that.
[1:44:48] Speaker 6: So you go handpick pieces that fit what they're trying
[1:44:50] Speaker 6: to do. And I think them adding Bobby Portis was key.
[1:44:53] Speaker 2: It was.
[1:44:54] Speaker 6: Off the bench. You got scoring off the bench. You
[1:44:56] Speaker 6: know Bobby Portis. He knows how to play spacing with Giannis.
[1:44:59] Speaker 6: You don't, him and Bam are pretty much the same
[1:45:02] Speaker 6: kind of a, Bam is better, but Bobby Porter is
[1:45:04] Speaker 6: spread the floor.
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: You don't lose much in that regard. Put some athletes,
[1:45:08] Speaker 3: put some athletes around. You go get Chris, you go
[1:45:10] Speaker 3: get Chris Middleton. I like Chris Middleton. You put some
[1:45:13] Speaker 3: athletes and shooters around him. Familiar, familiarity, for Giannis.
[1:45:21] Speaker 9: Listen, then you got him, then you got Wiggins, and
[1:45:22] Speaker 9: then if you get Klay, now you got three guys
[1:45:24] Speaker 9: who have all been to the finals.
[1:45:26] Speaker 3: You got to get some young guys. You got to
[1:45:27] Speaker 3: get some young dogs. What you was outlining though just now,
[1:45:31] Speaker 3: the 06 team, there wasn't no young dogs on that team.
[1:45:35] Speaker 3: It was Dwight Chocolate, Gary Payton, Lonzo Mourning, James Posey,
[1:45:41] Speaker 3: Antoine Walker. D-Wade was the youngest pup on there. I
[1:45:46] Speaker 3: think maybe the real right was on that team. The
[1:45:48] Speaker 3: real right was the youngest one. He was the youngest one.
[1:45:50] Speaker 3: So you look at that team, they built that team
[1:45:53] Speaker 3: specifically to go exactly where they went. Exactly. And they
[1:45:58] Speaker 3: all knew what they needed to do. So that's why
[1:46:01] Speaker 3: our brother Chris Middleton and Russell Westbrook and Clay Thompson,
[1:46:05] Speaker 3: these are guys who know we're coming down here. to
[1:46:09] Speaker 3: do this. For sure. Let's get the week down there, bro.
[1:46:13] Speaker 2: I say that'll be for sure.
[1:46:15] Speaker 3: I'm so in awe, man.
[1:46:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, you do have some people out there I think
[1:46:20] Speaker 1: probably willing to take a discount.
[1:46:22] Speaker 6: To pay cuts to live in Miami. To play with Giannis.
[1:46:25] Speaker 3: To go out and compete. In Miami? Shit, man. It's
[1:46:30] Speaker 3: a streaming district now. Get some extra work.
[1:46:35] Speaker 2: Fuck.
[1:46:35] Speaker 1: Some Greco-themed work.
[1:46:37] Speaker 3: Man, a Latina heaven.
[1:46:39] Speaker 6: They just redid the waiting room and all that.
[1:46:41] Speaker 3: Man. They just did that.
[1:46:44] Speaker 4: You think people getting big to guard Wimby? To compete
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: with the Spurs? That's why they going big like that?
[1:46:51] Speaker 3: He's a deciding factor. I don't think it's specifically for Wimby.
[1:46:54] Speaker 6: But he's a factor in it.
[1:46:56] Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think it's specifically.
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: He's a factor. Behind closed doors, teams is like. He's
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: a factor.
[1:47:00] Speaker 6: He's a factor.
[1:47:01] Speaker 3: What, teams? Hell yeah. Moving forward. What the Spurs got
[1:47:06] Speaker 3: to back up Wimby in this draft.
[1:47:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:47:09] Speaker 3: Tarrasque Reed, and then they got the young fella who's
[1:47:11] Speaker 3: going to be out this year, but next year, he'll
[1:47:13] Speaker 3: be one of the best defensive leaders. So them two
[1:47:17] Speaker 3: being able to back up Wemby, you may be thinking
[1:47:20] Speaker 3: in the back of your mind, okay, this, but I'm still,
[1:47:23] Speaker 3: I'm Castle, Harper, you still got the front court killers. Yeah.
[1:47:27] Speaker 3: that you got to look at. But I don't know, man.
[1:47:31] Speaker 3: I wouldn't say people gear up to fucking do that
[1:47:33] Speaker 3: for Wimby.
[1:47:33] Speaker 12: Yes, they did.
[1:47:33] Speaker 3: Based on, like, they're not really. They didn't really respect him.
[1:47:38] Speaker 3: Nobody really respected him all year. Yeah, but the Thunder
[1:47:41] Speaker 3: just did it, though. They just got the 7-3. They
[1:47:42] Speaker 3: had to.
[1:47:43] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:47:43] Speaker 3: I know, but now they're getting rid of Harkestan. I know,
[1:47:45] Speaker 3: but I think they were the winners of the draft yesterday.
[1:47:47] Speaker 3: Picking up Oboe, and then they got the guard.
[1:47:50] Speaker 2: He's a nice pick and roll player, too.
[1:47:52] Speaker 3: Bro, listen, OKC got some. Listen, that big they got.
[1:47:57] Speaker 6: Yeah, you got a rookie deal versus $ 28 million.
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: Aaron Wiggins cut down.
[1:48:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to.
[1:48:02] Speaker 6: Go with the rookie deal. And Hardenstein, I like you,
[1:48:05] Speaker 6: but you can walk.
[1:48:05] Speaker 3: We got a 7-4 move.
[1:48:06] Speaker 6: No, but the rookie deal, fuck the 7-4 and all that.
[1:48:09] Speaker 6: It's the money aspect of what their problem is. It
[1:48:13] Speaker 6: ain't the talent. Like, Hardenstein is talented. He fits what
[1:48:16] Speaker 6: they do, but his money don't fit what they got.
[1:48:18] Speaker 3: To do moving forward.
[1:48:19] Speaker 5: He'll take a discount.
[1:48:21] Speaker 3: If you like it here.
[1:48:22] Speaker 6: This rookie deal moves him out the way.
[1:48:24] Speaker 3: So, Lou Dort, Wiggins.
[1:48:25] Speaker 1: If you like it here, you'll come up off a
[1:48:27] Speaker 1: little bit of that bread. If you want to be
[1:48:29] Speaker 1: a part of something special.
[1:48:30] Speaker 6: How much pay cut is that?
[1:48:32] Speaker 3: I like it.
[1:48:32] Speaker 1: The team out for $ 29 million this season. If they
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: give you a couple extra years in the... I don't know.
[1:48:37] Speaker 6: That don't work out, Josiah.
[1:48:39] Speaker 3: That don't work out. He better himself from the New
[1:48:41] Speaker 3: York situation to go to OKC. Yeah, he got paid.
[1:48:44] Speaker 3: He got paid off for that decision already. You don't
[1:48:46] Speaker 3: think he's going to try to get more money off
[1:48:48] Speaker 3: of what he just did in this series and show
[1:48:51] Speaker 3: his worth against Wimby? Hey, man, he ain't feeling hard time.
[1:48:54] Speaker 6: Listen, man, you got him on the book for $ 28 million,
[1:48:57] Speaker 6: $ 29 million, and you got a rookie deal.
[1:48:58] Speaker 3: It ain't even a question. Yeah.
[1:49:05] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:49:05] Speaker 5: Yeah, but Presti just took the wimpy antidote. He just
[1:49:09] Speaker 5: took freakish. He just took You realize that this kid
[1:49:14] Speaker 5: in his bare feet is 7'3.
[1:49:16] Speaker 2: Man.
[1:49:16] Speaker 5: And his standing reach this way, not this way, but
[1:49:19] Speaker 5: his standing reach is two inches beyond Wimby. So he
[1:49:23] Speaker 5: can look him in the eye.
[1:49:24] Speaker 6: Other guy got to deal with him.
[1:49:25] Speaker 5: You know, like Hardenstein.
[1:49:27] Speaker 3: And he can play. And he can play. He does
[1:49:29] Speaker 3: more than Hardenstein. He passes. He blocks more shots.
[1:49:32] Speaker 2: He passes.
[1:49:32] Speaker 3: And he shoots three. And he has block work. And
[1:49:34] Speaker 3: he can get on that block and get you a bucket.
[1:49:36] Speaker 3: And he shoots three. And he shoots three.
[1:49:37] Speaker 6: Hardenstein don't shoot three, so.
[1:49:38] Speaker 5: And you know what I loved about this Mara kid is–
[1:49:42] Speaker 5: His dad played pro ball in Spain, so his genes
[1:49:46] Speaker 5: are good. His mom played for the national volleyball team.
[1:49:50] Speaker 5: And then he wins Big Ten Defensive Player of the
[1:49:55] Speaker 5: Year and had his best game of the year by
[1:49:58] Speaker 5: far in the national championship game. So I'll take that
[1:50:01] Speaker 5: to the bank. And Sam Presti says, thank you, because
[1:50:04] Speaker 5: I thought Morrow would be the first of the three
[1:50:06] Speaker 5: Michigan kids to go. All the mocks had him going first.
[1:50:10] Speaker 5: And he's sitting there for Sam Presti, who says, wait
[1:50:14] Speaker 5: a second, you're going to let me have him at 12?
[1:50:17] Speaker 5: I'll thank you very much.
[1:50:18] Speaker 3: We need a euro for a euro. Because we ain't
[1:50:24] Speaker 3: got no American guys can't fuck with me right now.
[1:50:27] Speaker 3: We need a euro for a euro.
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: Robinson did.
[1:50:31] Speaker 3: Towns. Mr. Robinson.
[1:50:33] Speaker 4: Initial office yeah the best the best we're not talking
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: about best guard best guard.
[1:50:38] Speaker 3: This is my okc okc needed a euro to take
[1:50:43] Speaker 3: care of they did because they can't depend on the
[1:50:45] Speaker 3: one big guy they got best guard.
[1:50:47] Speaker 5: You can depend on him against everybody but that guy
[1:50:50] Speaker 5: but now they got.
[1:50:51] Speaker 6: Somebody getting his way they got somebody getting way.
[1:50:52] Speaker 3: You can go do your thing you can roam now
[1:50:56] Speaker 3: you can roam now we gotta understand how to be
[1:50:59] Speaker 3: Let them wings fly. Chet, go ahead and shoot them threes.
[1:51:03] Speaker 5: You don't need the Spanish guy to score on Wimby.
[1:51:05] Speaker 5: You just need him to bother Wimby's scoring.
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: Preston never got over game one of the Western Finals
[1:51:09] Speaker 3: because Wimby comes in there and goes 41 and 24
[1:51:11] Speaker 3: and Chet disappears and.
[1:51:20] Speaker 5: Presti's like, no, we got to fix this going forward
[1:51:23] Speaker 5: because this is going to be maybe six, seven, eight,
[1:51:26] Speaker 5: ten years of this.
[1:51:27] Speaker 3: Well, you can't be too ignorant to go throw Lou
[1:51:29] Speaker 3: Dorton and Caruso on for the whole game. Well, they tried.
[1:51:31] Speaker 3: Not at 41 and 24. So, I mean, hey, it's
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: not our fault.
[1:51:34] Speaker 2: Ain't like you got a brunt thing, right? Yeah. Oh, no, no.
[1:51:41] Speaker 3: Stretching?
[1:51:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:51:43] Speaker 6: Nick just be talking.
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: Nah, Bronson.
[1:51:45] Speaker 3: He thought he cooked with that.
[1:51:46] Speaker 2: I did.
[1:51:46] Speaker 3: You ain't got a Bronson. Yo, you know what was
[1:51:48] Speaker 3: weird last night?
[1:51:49] Speaker 9: I said, you know what I liked last night about
[1:51:51] Speaker 9: the draft? You notice a lot of kids yesterday had
[1:51:54] Speaker 9: both parents. up there with him. I mean, I come
[1:51:57] Speaker 9: from a single-parent mother home, but it was just good
[1:51:59] Speaker 9: just to see.
[1:51:59] Speaker 3: That was controversial at the time. A lot of people
[1:52:01] Speaker 3: supported that. A lot of people said.
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: Some people said that there's not enough dogs or hungry kids.
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: So Deion Sanders, he said it publicly. Said what?
[1:52:07] Speaker 3: He preferred certain positions.
[1:52:16] Speaker 6: Certain positions, Dion, prefer you to come from a single-parent household.
[1:52:19] Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Yeah, I do. I understand that wholeheartedly.
[1:52:23] Speaker 2: I don't understand that at all.
[1:52:24] Speaker 3: Because you grew up in Beaupont. Yeah, and I still
[1:52:26] Speaker 3: was a dog. Because you grew up in Beaupont. I
[1:52:27] Speaker 3: still was a dog. I'm still hungry. I'm still ready
[1:52:30] Speaker 3: to prove myself. He says certain positions. In football.
[1:52:34] Speaker 1: In football, he'd prefer that.
[1:52:35] Speaker 3: Because of the mentality that you bring.
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: No, but overall, though.
[1:52:39] Speaker 3: Well, he should have left his wife. He should have
[1:52:42] Speaker 3: broke up his household.
[1:52:44] Speaker 6: Certain environments with single mothers, they turn out different.
[1:52:48] Speaker 3: That's all.
[1:52:48] Speaker 2: That's all. No, facts, facts.
[1:52:50] Speaker 3: Certain people with a door, that's all. but guys but
[1:52:54] Speaker 3: guys we came up with.
[1:52:55] Speaker 6: Both parents I like that I like both parents being
[1:52:57] Speaker 6: out so it's a different structure.
[1:52:59] Speaker 9: Right I was just saying I just liked it yesterday
[1:53:02] Speaker 9: I just liked it yesterday Mike and Cole both parents
[1:53:05] Speaker 9: both have mom and dad I just thought that was
[1:53:06] Speaker 9: like you know that was different these.
[1:53:08] Speaker 3: Are the most lethal killers serial killers in the history
[1:53:11] Speaker 3: of the game ever both parents.
[1:53:13] Speaker 6: Deion got killed for his statement no Deion got ridiculed
[1:53:17] Speaker 6: for his statement he did.
[1:53:19] Speaker 3: LeBron's not a killer he grew up with one parent mhm.
[1:53:22] Speaker 6: Like I said, he got killed for the statement, but
[1:53:24] Speaker 6: I understand what he was saying. He wanted his quarterback
[1:53:28] Speaker 6: to come from a two-parent household, right?
[1:53:29] Speaker 3: That's what he said.
[1:53:31] Speaker 6: He wanted his defensive tackle to come from a single-parent mother.
[1:53:35] Speaker 3: That's just what he said. He's trying to fix it.
[1:53:38] Speaker 6: But and another thing, Brad, I'm glad you said that.
[1:53:40] Speaker 6: Me and Skip were talking before the show, and I
[1:53:41] Speaker 6: appreciate how seniors get drafted, right? Because I went four years,
[1:53:46] Speaker 6: and I needed those four years to get better to
[1:53:48] Speaker 6: develop into the kind of pro that I end up becoming, right?
[1:53:52] Speaker 6: Started out not so good as a freshman, worked my
[1:53:54] Speaker 6: ass off for four years, and it worked out. And
[1:53:56] Speaker 6: these seniors that's getting drafted, even though they transferred multiple
[1:53:59] Speaker 6: schools and this, that, and the third, but they're still seniors,
[1:54:01] Speaker 6: and they get an opportunity, right, being drafted in the
[1:54:04] Speaker 6: first round. I think they show up ready to play
[1:54:07] Speaker 6: product for any team that's trying to win. So team
[1:54:10] Speaker 6: that's trying to win, go get you a 22, 23,
[1:54:14] Speaker 6: 24-year-old guy. You can plug him in, and he's ready
[1:54:16] Speaker 6: to play right now because he's been coached hard for
[1:54:18] Speaker 6: four years, so.
[1:54:19] Speaker 3: Didn't we have this conversation? We did. We were being
[1:54:23] Speaker 3: pushed against. Yeah, because I gave a certain age, and
[1:54:26] Speaker 3: it was like that's the only thing. 18-year-olds are better.
[1:54:29] Speaker 3: The only thing that the person heard when we said 24.
[1:54:30] Speaker 5: 18.
[1:54:30] Speaker 6: I said 24, and they ran. We're talking about Zach Eadie. Yes.
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: And Zach Eadie wouldn't be. He would have been second round,
[1:54:36] Speaker 3: and you should get fired because Zach Eadie gets picked
[1:54:39] Speaker 3: in the first round and ended up going.
[1:54:41] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:54:41] Speaker 6: He was the ninth pick in the draft for a reason.
[1:54:43] Speaker 6: He was two-time college player of the year. Because you
[1:54:46] Speaker 6: know how to play basketball.
[1:54:47] Speaker 3: Tim Duncan played how many years in college? Yes. So, hey, man.
[1:54:51] Speaker 3: He did. As soon as he got picked, what happened?
[1:54:53] Speaker 3: I did four years, and I was the number one pick.
[1:54:56] Speaker 6: And it worked out. I started as three and a
[1:54:59] Speaker 6: half points as a freshman. Averaged 19 as a senior
[1:55:02] Speaker 6: and was consensus player of the year and number one
[1:55:04] Speaker 6: pick in the draft.
[1:55:05] Speaker 1: What do you think of the top part of the draft?
[1:55:07] Speaker 1: Because 11 of the first 14 picks were freshmen, I think.
[1:55:09] Speaker 1: Eight straight freshmen taken. But as you move for a
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: team that's established.
[1:55:12] Speaker 6: Like I said, if you're trying to win.
[1:55:13] Speaker 3: Down the line in the lottery. Yeah, you get the
[1:55:15] Speaker 3: more established players.
[1:55:16] Speaker 6: The only team that's up there that's picking the lottery
[1:55:18] Speaker 6: is Oklahoma City, right? And you saw the route they
[1:55:21] Speaker 6: went with number 12. They picked a guy that's established already.
[1:55:25] Speaker 1: Champion.
[1:55:25] Speaker 3: That they can plug and play.
[1:55:27] Speaker 6: So if you're trying to. compete, you go get you
[1:55:30] Speaker 6: an older guy that's ready to play. If you're building
[1:55:32] Speaker 6: your franchise, potential, you go get you a 19 and 20-year-old.
[1:55:37] Speaker 6: I'm all for that. But if you're trying to win
[1:55:39] Speaker 6: and you compete, I was in the finals in my
[1:55:42] Speaker 6: second year in the league. Guys ready to play.
[1:55:47] Speaker 5: And what'd you shoot from the free throw line your
[1:55:49] Speaker 5: freshman year at Cincinnati?
[1:55:50] Speaker 3: 35%.
[1:55:50] Speaker 1: 35%.
[1:55:50] Speaker 2: And then senior?
[1:55:50] Speaker 6: Yeah, 70, whatever it was.
[1:55:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[1:55:56] Speaker 6: Progression. It's all progression. It got better every year, right?
[1:56:00] Speaker 6: So I was just in, I know we're trying to
[1:56:02] Speaker 6: get out of here. I came out of high school
[1:56:03] Speaker 6: the same year as Kobe in 1996. Those dudes, four
[1:56:07] Speaker 6: years in the league. I did four years in college.
[1:56:10] Speaker 6: I was the number one pick, so the trajectory was
[1:56:13] Speaker 6: all the same. I met my trajectory as, but it
[1:56:16] Speaker 6: was just on a different playing field.
[1:56:19] Speaker 3: That's all. Met the 18-year-old that whooped your ass in
[1:56:22] Speaker 3: the finals. He was 18? Yeah. No, he was. No,
[1:56:26] Speaker 3: he's saying in high school, y'all was the same age.
[1:56:28] Speaker 3: And then y'all met.
[1:56:29] Speaker 6: Yeah, he had Shaquille O'Neal on his team.
[1:56:31] Speaker 2: He got more work.
[1:56:32] Speaker 3: But he had Shaquille O'Neal on his team as well.
[1:56:34] Speaker 3: For four years while you was in college. And he
[1:56:36] Speaker 3: had Shaquille O'Neal. He was.
[1:56:38] Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the same trajectory. Yeah.
[1:56:42] Speaker 3: We met, though. We were going to meet at the end.
[1:56:44] Speaker 6: A lot of dudes that went out of high school
[1:56:46] Speaker 6: before then and between them four years went to the league,
[1:56:50] Speaker 6: went to college and all that. Same amount of time.
[1:56:53] Speaker 3: Tim Toms.
[1:56:54] Speaker 6: I don't know, man. It's a whole list of guys.
[1:57:00] Speaker 6: Ended up good.
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enjoying this.
[1:57:02] Speaker 3: Enjoying the KDs. Left the show to go put them on.
[1:57:05] Speaker 2: For sure, man.
[1:57:05] Speaker 3: Candy, man.
[1:57:06] Speaker 4: I'm going to be a man today. I want to
[1:57:09] Speaker 4: apologize to McCants.
[1:57:11] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
[1:57:11] Speaker 4: I apologize. Rashad. For the sucking dick thing. Some people
[1:57:17] Speaker 4: took it the wrong way. I think everybody took it
[1:57:21] Speaker 4: the wrong way.
[1:57:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all the controversy you got, my bad.
[1:57:25] Speaker 3: It's all good, man. But you still was sucking. I
[1:57:27] Speaker 3: was just shouting out the sponsor.
[1:57:28] Speaker 4: I don't want people to interpret it the wrong way.
[1:57:31] Speaker 4: I was just shouting out the sponsor. Yeah, that was
[1:57:33] Speaker 4: just me. That was just me being me.
[1:57:35] Speaker 3: Same sponsor that sponsored the fucking golf game. Same sponsor
[1:57:38] Speaker 3: he got on his head. I was just saying shout
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: out to the sponsor, man. Now I done switched ties.
[1:57:43] Speaker 3: That's not all this. All this shit came out from nothing.
[1:57:47] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry.
[1:57:48] Speaker 3: It's all good, man. I accept it.
[1:57:50] Speaker 1: It is Glaze Wednesday. Wednesdays are for glazing here in
[1:57:53] Speaker 1: the arena.
[1:57:55] Speaker 3: Damn. You said I made a decision and all kind
[1:57:59] Speaker 3: of shit, man.
[1:58:00] Speaker 6: There's a whole bunch of shit going on.
[1:58:03] Speaker 3: You had your LeBron moment. Damn. You said you was
[1:58:06] Speaker 3: taking your talents to South Beach. Damn, I'm still under contract.
[1:58:09] Speaker 3: I ain't hit free agency yet. What you talking about, man?
[1:58:12] Speaker 3: What's going on? Free agency in the league starts next week.
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: We still working. What the fuck I do? I said,
[1:58:18] Speaker 3: what the fuck I do?
[1:58:19] Speaker 1: Free agency in the NBA starts next week. Should be very,
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: very interesting and intriguing to see where some of our
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: favorite players land up come that time. But Appreciate everybody
[1:58:29] Speaker 1: on this couch. Shout out to everybody in the chat.
[1:58:31] Speaker 1: Shout out to our amazing crew here as well. Shout
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: out to you fans out there for always pulling up.
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: This has been... Oh, yeah, we won't be back.
[1:58:38] Speaker 3: Let them know this is... No more shows this week.
[1:58:40] Speaker 3: So we're not going tomorrow? Merely a ho.
[1:58:44] Speaker 6: It's the last show for until 4C in the future.
[1:58:46] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:58:47] Speaker 3: Until next week. Monday.
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: Oh, y'all ain't got no schedule.
[1:58:50] Speaker 10: Monday, Tuesday, next week. Monday, Tuesday, next week. Kane has
[1:58:51] Speaker 10: not received a schedule. I was assuming, yeah. We were, yeah. Monday, Tuesday,
[1:58:55] Speaker 10: next week. I got to do a better job communicating.
[1:58:58] Speaker 10: Then we done. I'm about to give people false information.
[1:59:00] Speaker 3: No.
[1:59:01] Speaker 1: Wherever the universe takes us, as you know.
[1:59:03] Speaker 3: What the fuck's happening?
[1:59:04] Speaker 1: Every day is a winding road, as they say.
[1:59:06] Speaker 2: Oh, free agency. Free agency.
[1:59:08] Speaker 3: There's free agency. All around the board.
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: Will be a very exciting free agency season. This has
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[1:59:17] Speaker 3: We'll see y'all next week.

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