# Nico Harrison FIRED By The Mavs ERUPTS Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 12 Nov 2025, 2 h 15 min.

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Nico Harrison FIRED By The Mavericks ERUPTS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Dallas Mavericks decision to fire their Nico Harrison 9 months after his shocking decision to send Luka Doncic to the Los Angeles Lakers and debate if it was the right move to let Nico take the fall for the ugly state of the franchise. They also discuss what this means for the future of the Mavericks as they build around Cooper Flagg and Kyrie Irving before reacting to Flagg's career high 26 points against the Milwaukee Bucks Monday Night. Next they react to 2 players lighting up the NBA this season as Cade Cunningham is taking the leap to NBA Superstar by leading the Detroit Pistons to the top spot in the Eastern Conference and Nikola Jokic is still playing like the best player in the world as the dominant Denver Nugget is on his way to another historic season & MVP Campaign. Finally, they react to the final format for the USA vs The World NBA All Star Game and give their take on how the international spin on the mid season classic will change All Star Weekend, before reacting to the international superstar Victor Wembanyama continue his breakout season as De'Aaron Fox has added another element to Wemby's game. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Connect with a provider at ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and receive $15 off your first order. SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:50 Mavericks Fire Nico Harrison 0:09:18 Should The Mavs Blow It Up? 0:36:56 Cooper Flagg's Best Game Of The Season 0:42:47 Bradley Beal OUT For The Season 0:51:37 Cade Cunningham Is A Superstar 0:59:22 Nikola Jokic Is Still The Best Player In The World 1:20:04 NBA Announces USA vs World All Star Game 1:34:28 DeAndre Hunter SNAPS Josh Giddey's Ankles 2:06:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. How everybody
[0:06] Speaker 1: feeling today? Good.
[0:08] Speaker 2: I want to see you read that teleprompter right now.
[0:11] Speaker 1: I want to see me try to read that too
[0:13] Speaker 1: right now. That's why I have a unique set of
[0:15] Speaker 1: skills that keeps me prepared for all conditions. Some important
[0:23] Speaker 1: news to address. Last week, Swaggy, Homeland, have you returned
[0:26] Speaker 1: to the family?
[0:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. Yeah, I've been home
[0:30] Speaker 3: for like two days. I'm good now, man.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Swaggy's back. Swaggy is back in business.
[0:38] Speaker 2: Is that a second pair?
[0:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, the brown ones.
[0:41] Speaker 2: So you had the brown ones, and then you bought
[0:43] Speaker 2: those two?
[0:45] Speaker 3: They sent them to me.
[0:46] Speaker 1: No.
[0:47] Speaker 4: I'm something special.
[0:49] Speaker 2: That's Louis Vuitton?
[0:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's Vuitton.
[0:52] Speaker 3: Vuitton, okay, okay. I thought it was Louie. I was like, dang.
[1:02] Speaker 1: It's hard.
[1:02] Speaker 3: You got to find shit. Luigi. You got to find shit.
[1:05] Speaker 1: Downtown.
[1:05] Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
[1:06] Speaker 1: It looked like that. Brian and James.
[1:08] Speaker 3: Huh? Brian and James. That's hard.
[1:10] Speaker 1: You see that?
[1:11] Speaker 4: Only me and Brian and LeBron got this.
[1:14] Speaker 3: You see it?
[1:14] Speaker 1: It's both of them on here.
[1:16] Speaker 3: It's their moment. One of three.
[1:17] Speaker 1: One of three what? The shirt?
[1:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, one of three.
[1:22] Speaker 1: Wait, what? One of three. Me, Bronny, and Bron. Bronny
[1:25] Speaker 1: and Bron got it. Only ones with that shirt.
[1:28] Speaker 3: And little Nick. It's like a junior, junior.
[1:30] Speaker 1: Okay, okay. And little Nick, I want you. I'm pretty
[1:32] Speaker 1: sure it came with the shoes. Buy two, get three
[1:36] Speaker 1: shirts for free. Anywho, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[1:42] Speaker 1: I'm your host, Josiah Johnson. And as always, we got
[1:45] Speaker 1: the NBA and NBA 2K legend, Gilbert Arenas, here with us. 2K?
[1:52] Speaker 3: With the Skyler Diggins throwback, I like it.
[1:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:56] Speaker 1: You're the only person I know that wears autographed jerseys.
[1:59] Speaker 3: That's crazy.
[2:00] Speaker 2: In their regular wardrobe. Because it makes them better than
[2:03] Speaker 2: the regular ones.
[2:05] Speaker 1: Because even if it's like Swingman, Swingman is better than
[2:09] Speaker 1: Authentic if they got the autograph on it. That's fair.
[2:12] Speaker 1: She wore that? Huh?
[2:14] Speaker 3: She wore that? You can fit? That wear the same size?
[2:18] Speaker 2: Anywho.
[2:19] Speaker 1: Let's see the next deal. We got NBA champion of
[2:21] Speaker 1: the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young. And on this side
[2:28] Speaker 1: of the couch, dressed to impress the distinguished gentleman from
[2:31] Speaker 1: Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin, back here
[2:34] Speaker 1: with us.
[2:39] Speaker 2: I'm really feeling the coordination.
[2:40] Speaker 1: I know.
[2:40] Speaker 3: You got to coordinate.
[2:45] Speaker 1: Last but not least, representing Tough Crowd and a card-carrying
[2:49] Speaker 1: country club member, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings here.
[2:55] Speaker 2: Are you trying to tell us something?
[2:57] Speaker 3: What?
[2:58] Speaker 2: Are you like a coach or are you trying to
[3:00] Speaker 2: be part of the coaching staff?
[3:01] Speaker 3: No, I'm a country club member. This is a golf attire.
[3:04] Speaker 1: But it is Bucs related. You don't want to live
[3:07] Speaker 1: in Milwaukee.
[3:08] Speaker 2: Huh?
[3:09] Speaker 3: I got my golf shirt on there.
[3:11] Speaker 2: You got a golf shirt on a golf shirt.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's cold. What's wrong with you today?
[3:15] Speaker 1: You're the only one. No, I'm just wondering. I'm like, man,
[3:18] Speaker 1: he's been real, like, coaches. Like, he's going on the
[3:22] Speaker 1: sideline or something for the Bucs or something. It's hard
[3:24] Speaker 1: out here. Some people are employed. Some people are not.
[3:27] Speaker 2: I need that.
[3:27] Speaker 3: All right. Yeah. What's wrong with you today? No, I
[3:32] Speaker 3: need that. That shit look fire.
[3:34] Speaker 1: Oh, the beanie? The beanie.
[3:35] Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were talking about the shirt.
[3:39] Speaker 1: Oh, man. The Bucs don't want the Bucs shirt. No,
[3:44] Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't
[3:47] Speaker 1: do that. The Bucs start here. Just got started. Don't
[3:49] Speaker 1: do that. The Bucs start here.
[3:50] Speaker 3: No, there's like few items that players don't wear out
[3:54] Speaker 3: in public.
[3:55] Speaker 1: What? The fuck is wrong? It already started. It already started.
[4:03] Speaker 1: Why didn't you start spinning like that? I'm just saying.
[4:06] Speaker 2: What that got to do with you, though? It got
[4:08] Speaker 2: to do with you.
[4:10] Speaker 1: I ain't never seen him do that.
[4:12] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[4:13] Speaker 5: There's just certain teams that you don't wear as a player.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Alan Butler just don't. He know, though.
[4:19] Speaker 3: That's why he started laughing.
[4:21] Speaker 1: It is some teams that you just don't want to wear.
[4:23] Speaker 1: You don't want to wear your team gear.
[4:25] Speaker 2: But I love wearing them, man. Stop it.
[4:27] Speaker 1: Shout out to Milwaukee Bucks and City of Milwaukee.
[4:30] Speaker 6: So, no, when we were playing, right, if we came
[4:32] Speaker 6: downstairs to go to dinner and you had on team gear,
[4:34] Speaker 6: you can't go with me.
[4:36] Speaker 1: No, no.
[4:36] Speaker 2: Shit like that.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Like, gear period.
[4:38] Speaker 2: Period. During the summer, you wearing gear out.
[4:40] Speaker 1: There's just some gear.
[4:41] Speaker 3: There's some franchises.
[4:44] Speaker 2: You should not be caught in.
[4:45] Speaker 1: What is it? That's one of them. Wizards is one
[4:47] Speaker 1: of them. No wizard slander.
[4:49] Speaker 3: Wizards is one of them, for sure.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Wizards is another one. No, Wizards was not one of them.
[4:52] Speaker 3: Stop it. Wizards is one of them jerseys you do
[4:55] Speaker 3: not wear. Just because you don't like the Wizards.
[4:56] Speaker 1: The Pelicans, Wizards.
[4:57] Speaker 3: That wasn't even a team back then.
[4:59] Speaker 1: The Hornets.
[5:00] Speaker 2: Hornets, for sure.
[5:02] Speaker 1: The Hornets. Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Hey, the Hornets started to drag
[5:06] Speaker 1: itself back into this. No, no, no, no. People wore
[5:07] Speaker 1: KG jerseys back in the day.
[5:09] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[5:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.
[5:10] Speaker 2: Not Utah? You were his jersey.
[5:12] Speaker 1: No, Utah.
[5:13] Speaker 7: As a player.
[5:13] Speaker 1: As a player. Only Utah people wore Utah jerseys.
[5:16] Speaker 3: You did not wear Utah jerseys. The Tip of the
[5:18] Speaker 3: World logo was hard back in the day.
[5:19] Speaker 2: To wear where?
[5:21] Speaker 3: That logo was tough.
[5:22] Speaker 4: That logo was tough.
[5:23] Speaker 3: But Wizards, for sure. That Buck shit.
[5:27] Speaker 1: No. Utah.
[5:31] Speaker 3: Only people in Utah going to wear it.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Didn't wear it.
[5:34] Speaker 3: Miami was popping. Yeah. Know that, Mike?
[5:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can wear the Miami.
[5:38] Speaker 3: Chicago. Chicago boys, you can wear that.
[5:40] Speaker 2: Chicago, Miami, any of them colors.
[5:41] Speaker 1: Lakers.
[5:42] Speaker 2: It's the colors. It's the colors, man.
[5:44] Speaker 1: Like, the Hornets kind of look cool.
[5:46] Speaker 3: Like, San Antonio's another team you're not wearing. San Antonio's
[5:48] Speaker 3: another team you're not wearing.
[5:49] Speaker 1: The original.
[5:50] Speaker 3: San Antonio.
[5:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the start of San Antonio. People getting
[5:54] Speaker 2: murked for.
[5:55] Speaker 3: Cavs? Only people in the class are wearing that?
[5:57] Speaker 1: Nobody's wearing that. You're not getting caught no Cavs gear. Hey, Shing,
[6:01] Speaker 1: I wore the Cavs shirt you got everybody for the holidays, dog.
[6:03] Speaker 1: It's important. It's back when the Cavs were here. He's
[6:05] Speaker 1: the only one that wore that motherfucker, too. Well, we
[6:08] Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss.
[6:09] Speaker 3: No, I tried to wear it, but they end up
[6:11] Speaker 3: losing in the first round.
[6:12] Speaker 8: I don't know how I keep finding that shit somewhere.
[6:15] Speaker 8: That shirt he got, just finding it at random places.
[6:17] Speaker 1: It just keep popping up? Saying, Swaggy, wear me. Swaggy,
[6:21] Speaker 1: put me on, dog. Did what I did.
[6:23] Speaker 6: Let Jack and Bo play tug-of-war with that bitch.
[6:26] Speaker 1: Well, we got a lot to get into. Here's what's
[6:29] Speaker 1: cracking in Gil's arena today. The Mavs finally fired Nico
[6:34] Speaker 1: Harrison just nine months after the Luka trade. Where does
[6:38] Speaker 1: Dallas go from here? The NBA revealed their plans for
[6:41] Speaker 1: the USA versus the World 2026 All-Star Game. Will the
[6:45] Speaker 1: new format make fans want to watch the game again?
[6:48] Speaker 1: And Nicole Jokic is averaging a triple-double again this season.
[6:52] Speaker 1: Is the three-time MVP the most efficient hooper in modern
[6:55] Speaker 1: NBA history? But before we get into all that, as always,
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[7:29] Speaker 1: in the league this week. A little more than nine
[7:31] Speaker 1: months after arguably the worst trade in sports history, the
[7:35] Speaker 1: Mavs finally obliged fans' Fire Nico chants by actually firing Nico.
[7:39] Speaker 1: The dismissal came during a meeting with Governor Patrick Dumont
[7:42] Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, just hours after the Mavs blew a double-digit
[7:45] Speaker 1: fourth-quarter lead and a home loss to the Bucks Monday night,
[7:48] Speaker 1: where the fire-Neko chance broke out yet again, including in
[7:51] Speaker 1: the final moments of the game with P.J. Washington at
[7:53] Speaker 1: the line with a chance to send it to overtime.
[7:55] Speaker 1: Dumont announced the news with an open letter to Mavs fans,
[7:58] Speaker 1: which read, in part, No one associated with the Mavericks
[8:02] Speaker 1: organization is happy with the start of what we all
[8:05] Speaker 1: believe would be a promising season. You have high expectations
[8:07] Speaker 1: for the Mavericks, and I share them with you. When
[8:09] Speaker 1: the results don't meet expectations, it's my responsibility to act.
[8:13] Speaker 1: I've made the decision to part ways with general manager
[8:15] Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, in the game? Though the majority of the
[8:20] Speaker 1: 25-26 season remains to be played, and I know our
[8:22] Speaker 1: players are deeply committed to a winning culture, this decision
[8:25] Speaker 1: was critical to moving our franchise forward in a positive direction.
[8:28] Speaker 1: I understand the profound impact these difficult last several months
[8:31] Speaker 1: have had. Please know that I'm fully committed to the
[8:33] Speaker 1: success of the Mavericks. Thank you for your support. Thank
[8:36] Speaker 1: you for holding us accountable. And thank you for your
[8:38] Speaker 1: passion and for your patience. Our goal is to return
[8:41] Speaker 1: winning basketball to Dallas and win championships. Plural. So after
[8:47] Speaker 1: the announcement, Harrison wasted no time updating his Instagram bio.
[8:51] Speaker 1: Let's take a look. Previously, it said GM of the
[8:55] Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. Nico was a hooper back in his day, too,
[8:57] Speaker 1: for those who didn't know. Switched it to girl dad, unemployed.
[9:02] Speaker 4: Girl dad, though.
[9:04] Speaker 1: He's trying to really tug at the heartstrings.
[9:05] Speaker 3: He's smart.
[9:06] Speaker 1: Since taking over as a Mav GM in June of 2021,
[9:08] Speaker 1: Harrison's tenure has been filled with highs and lows. Highs
[9:12] Speaker 1: of the Mavs reaching the conference finals in 2022 and
[9:14] Speaker 1: the NBA finals in 2024. for the first time since 2011,
[9:17] Speaker 1: and the low of trading Luka to the Lakers for
[9:20] Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and one first-round pick. We appreciate you, Nick.
[9:25] Speaker 1: So since the Luka trade, the Mavs are 16-28, with
[9:27] Speaker 1: a 3-8 start this season, the second-worst record in the West. Meanwhile,
[9:31] Speaker 1: the man Harrison and the Mavs claimed was a fat,
[9:33] Speaker 1: no-defense playing, Luka-smoking alcoholic is averaging 37-9-9 for the Lakers.
[9:39] Speaker 1: Michael Finley and Matt Riccardi will serve as the Mavs'
[9:41] Speaker 1: corner room GMs moving forward. So we want to open
[9:44] Speaker 1: it up to the couch. Did the Mavs Make the
[9:46] Speaker 1: right move, firing Nico Harrison. Kenny, let's start with you,
[9:49] Speaker 1: representing from Oak Cliff. Strong Dallas ties.
[9:55] Speaker 6: It was inevitable. to start the season off the way
[10:01] Speaker 6: they have. Anthony Davis going, having surgery, not looking the
[10:05] Speaker 6: way he thought he was going to look. From day
[10:10] Speaker 6: one last year, he got hurt the first game he
[10:12] Speaker 6: played last year. So this is the new owner comes
[10:20] Speaker 6: out and says they made a mistake.
[10:22] Speaker 1: Right?
[10:24] Speaker 2: With the trade. It was a mistake.
[10:26] Speaker 1: He did say that.
[10:28] Speaker 6: But ultimately, it was your decision. That man brought it
[10:32] Speaker 6: to you and you had the right to say no.
[10:34] Speaker 6: You had the opportunity to tell him to get the
[10:35] Speaker 6: fuck out your office. Like, talking nonsense. Like, you should
[10:40] Speaker 6: have fired Nico then. When he come to you asking
[10:42] Speaker 6: you to trade your franchise 26-year-old, one of the best
[10:46] Speaker 6: players in NBA, you should have fired him then for
[10:49] Speaker 6: even having the thought to bringing that to you.
[10:53] Speaker 2: Like, this is what I'm thinking. Are you out of
[10:56] Speaker 2: your mind? Are you high? You know what? Bring the
[10:59] Speaker 2: piss man here. You need to be tested. Give him
[11:02] Speaker 2: a cup.
[11:02] Speaker 9: Right?
[11:02] Speaker 1: Give him a cup right now.
[11:04] Speaker 6: And you go trade for a guy in Anthony Davis
[11:06] Speaker 6: who technically he's had one healthy season since they won
[11:09] Speaker 6: it in the bubble. Played 77 games, 78 games. One
[11:17] Speaker 6: healthy season since 2020. And that's the guy who the
[11:19] Speaker 6: owner okayed to bring in, like, during his trade. So,
[11:23] Speaker 6: just a little odd, but I think you can't have
[11:25] Speaker 6: home games, every game, that going on.
[11:30] Speaker 2: And fire Niko Chance. So, it was inevitable, in my opinion.
[11:33] Speaker 1: So, AD played 62 games in that 2020 championship season.
[11:37] Speaker 2: Followed that up with 36 games to follow.
[11:39] Speaker 1: You said in 2020? Yeah.
[11:41] Speaker 3: So, was that all the games?
[11:43] Speaker 1: No.
[11:44] Speaker 2: How many games was that in 2020? 72, I believe.
[11:45] Speaker 1: 72? You sure?
[11:48] Speaker 3: I think it was 72.
[11:50] Speaker 1: In 2020? During COVID? There was a break, then they
[11:51] Speaker 1: came back.
[11:52] Speaker 2: And they only missed 10 games?
[11:54] Speaker 1: No, maybe.
[11:54] Speaker 2: Maybe a little more. I said that the 72 was
[11:56] Speaker 2: the next year.
[11:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:58] Speaker 1: That's why I looked at your strength. Okay. I appreciate it.
[12:00] Speaker 1: Holding me accountable. Like Patrick Dumont is holding himself accountable. Yeah,
[12:03] Speaker 1: but like I said, he ain't been healthy. For you
[12:05] Speaker 1: to trade for him, he hasn't been healthy. And it's
[12:09] Speaker 1: rearing his ugly head again in this situation. Yeah, it
[12:15] Speaker 1: was inevitable.
[12:18] Speaker 7: I think for me, Nico the whole time was just
[12:20] Speaker 7: a scapegoat for this whole situation. I don't think Luca
[12:24] Speaker 7: and the owner ever really got along because I think
[12:28] Speaker 7: Luca's a Cuban guy. So, you know, all the fall
[12:32] Speaker 7: goes on Nico. And, you know, at the end of
[12:35] Speaker 7: the day, you know, the owner does make the decision.
[12:37] Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, he was okay
[12:39] Speaker 7: with it. But I think that relationship with Luca and
[12:41] Speaker 7: the owner, you know, they just threw Nico in that situation.
[12:45] Speaker 3: So, you know, he was the scapegoat for that situation.
[12:47] Speaker 1: And there were 71 games in that bubble season. The shutdown, obviously,
[12:51] Speaker 1: late March. They came back and finished. How many did
[12:53] Speaker 1: he play that year? 62 of the 71. Then followed
[12:56] Speaker 1: that up by 72. No, he played 72 next year. Yeah,
[12:59] Speaker 1: he played, I believe, 36 of those. then 40, then 56,
[13:05] Speaker 1: and then 76 in the 24th season.
[13:06] Speaker 2: He's only had one healthy season.
[13:09] Speaker 4: They won a championship.
[13:10] Speaker 2: 51 games last year.
[13:11] Speaker 6: To my point, he's only had one healthy season since
[13:14] Speaker 6: they won it in the bubble.
[13:16] Speaker 2: Since they won it in the bubble.
[13:17] Speaker 1: So now it's the bubble year? Yeah.
[13:18] Speaker 3: He won.
[13:20] Speaker 2: But he ain't been healthy since. Who said anything about?
[13:22] Speaker 1: Nobody. My point is he ain't been healthy since. We're
[13:24] Speaker 1: talking about, you know, he said a certain amount of
[13:28] Speaker 1: games in the bubble. I was like, I don't remember.
[13:30] Speaker 1: 62 of the 71 games that season, and then it's played,
[13:31] Speaker 1: I think, 76 in the 24th.
[13:33] Speaker 3: You trade a young megastar, though. Like, even on Anthony Davis'
[13:37] Speaker 3: best day.
[13:38] Speaker 7: Like, he's one of the best centers when he is healthy,
[13:40] Speaker 7: but even on his best day, he's not better than Uka.
[13:43] Speaker 6: No, on his best day when he was with New
[13:45] Speaker 6: Orleans at 27, 26, 27, and 13, 14, four and
[13:46] Speaker 6: a half blocks. Like, that Anthony Davis?
[13:52] Speaker 3: Still not bad. Even with the Lakers. He's giving you more.
[13:55] Speaker 3: Even with the Lakers. He's giving you all of this.
[13:57] Speaker 1: But I think the point is, it's not the same person.
[14:00] Speaker 1: You trade Luka, generational talent, 25, I believe, at the time,
[14:03] Speaker 1: five-time first-team All-NBA selections for Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and
[14:08] Speaker 1: one singular first-round pick. I think Mavs fans obviously felt
[14:11] Speaker 1: betrayed with the Luka trade, but also the return. Probably
[14:13] Speaker 1: pissed him off even more.
[14:14] Speaker 2: I think it was Cooper Flagler got him fired.
[14:16] Speaker 3: No, 3-8 got him fired. Cooper Flagler got him fired.
[14:19] Speaker 1: No, 3-8.
[14:19] Speaker 2: No, 3-8. 3-8 got him fired. Because when he got drafted,
[14:22] Speaker 2: it was no fire Nico for a minute.
[14:24] Speaker 3: If they 10-1 right now, 9-2, if they 10-1, 9-2,
[14:25] Speaker 3: Nico still has his job. That's what I'm saying.
[14:39] Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg still averaged 15-7. 3-8. He's a rookie.
[14:44] Speaker 8: Everybody was happy with Dallas. They're going to be one
[14:46] Speaker 8: of the biggest teams in the league. They got Cooper Flagg.
[14:50] Speaker 8: And they started 3-8. And they started 3-8. Because they
[14:53] Speaker 8: started 3-8.
[14:54] Speaker 1: Started 3-8. Struck it at home to start the season.
[14:56] Speaker 1: Had a long stretch of holding. I think five straight
[14:58] Speaker 1: home games to open the season.
[15:00] Speaker 2: Kyrie being out.
[15:01] Speaker 6: Anthony Davis not being where he needs to be. Having
[15:04] Speaker 6: a rookie who you depend on who don't understand the
[15:06] Speaker 6: NBA game yet. You don't really have a true point
[15:09] Speaker 6: guard out there. It's a lot of things that led
[15:12] Speaker 6: to three and eight. And the main reason is Luka
[15:16] Speaker 6: not being there.
[15:17] Speaker 2: So, listen.
[15:19] Speaker 6: And it don't help he started the season the way
[15:20] Speaker 6: he started on it.
[15:21] Speaker 1: So, Gil, did the Mavs make the right move firing
[15:24] Speaker 1: Nico Harrison at this point in the season?
[15:27] Speaker 2: Did the right move to fire him?
[15:29] Speaker 1: Yes. Because, one, you have....
[15:34] Speaker 2: You have Cooper Flagg there who is going to be
[15:36] Speaker 2: your future.
[15:37] Speaker 3: And the fact that the fans are refusing to let
[15:41] Speaker 3: it go and they're just going to keep being annoying
[15:44] Speaker 3: about it, then, yes, you're going to have to remove.
[15:49] Speaker 1: It so they can shut the fuck up at this point.
[15:51] Speaker 2: Because, you know, it.
[15:52] Speaker 1: Really is annoying.
[15:53] Speaker 3: If you're Cooper Flagg, he's shooting free throws. You're not
[15:57] Speaker 3: doing this shit when the other team is doing it,
[16:00] Speaker 3: shooting free throws. You're doing it when your own team
[16:01] Speaker 3: is doing it. So that makes you delusional anyway, right?
[16:04] Speaker 3: So at that point, you've got to get rid of. Now,
[16:08] Speaker 3: the problem with this excuse is who gives a shit
[16:14] Speaker 3: if it's a mistake? It was a mistake as soon
[16:18] Speaker 3: as you inked it. We all said it was a mistake.
[16:21] Speaker 3: We all was, when the world stopped, you made a mistake.
[16:26] Speaker 3: That's when you know you made, when the world, whoa,
[16:30] Speaker 3: the fuck, is.
[16:31] Speaker 1: This an earthquake?
[16:32] Speaker 2: That's when you made the mistake.
[16:35] Speaker 1: But where was the, it was that energy where.
[16:37] Speaker 3: You said, if you look at the great Jordan Bird,
[16:40] Speaker 3: Kobe Shaq, and I knew you fucked up when you
[16:43] Speaker 3: said that name. They worked really hard every day with
[16:46] Speaker 3: the singular focus to win. And if you don't have that,
[16:51] Speaker 3: it doesn't work. And if you don't have that, you
[16:53] Speaker 3: shouldn't be a part of the Dallas Maverick. That's who
[16:57] Speaker 3: we want. That was your fucking statement. That was Patrick
[17:00] Speaker 3: Dumont's statement. Yeah, you made all these statements to justify
[17:04] Speaker 3: the trade. It wasn't Nico. We didn't hear shit from Nico.
[17:09] Speaker 3: They had to beg that motherfucker to do a goddamn interview.
[17:12] Speaker 3: He was hiding. You came out and put all this
[17:16] Speaker 3: extra on that man's name. Calling the man fat. Even
[17:20] Speaker 3: though How he started, great. Got hurt for a long
[17:24] Speaker 3: period of time.
[17:25] Speaker 1: Came back out of shape.
[17:27] Speaker 3: Y'all was six and two during his play. And the
[17:31] Speaker 3: impulse of this trade is where you are now.
[17:35] Speaker 1: Impulsiveness.
[17:38] Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy who at 22 got you
[17:40] Speaker 3: to Western Conference Finals.
[17:43] Speaker 2: Then got to the finals at 25.
[17:44] Speaker 3: That's the guy you say don't know nothing about winning? Right.
[17:50] Speaker 1: Right. Right.
[17:51] Speaker 3: So, I mean, I really, like you're talking about age.
[17:56] Speaker 3: What he's doing was very different.
[17:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[17:59] Speaker 3: At his age right now, he has more first teams
[18:02] Speaker 3: than Steph Curry. At his age, already has more than Steph.
[18:07] Speaker 3: His career. Mm-hmm.
[18:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Right?
[18:10] Speaker 3: He was moving different.
[18:12] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[18:13] Speaker 1: Out the gates.
[18:14] Speaker 2: If he was healthy last year, that would have.
[18:16] Speaker 3: Been first team.
[18:17] Speaker 1: This year, as long as he's playing, first team. That's
[18:20] Speaker 1: looking like the NBA.
[18:22] Speaker 3: As long as he's playing, he's a first team. Him
[18:26] Speaker 3: by himself. Defense or not. Who gives a shit what
[18:31] Speaker 3: you're talking about? He changes the game. You build the
[18:36] Speaker 3: team around him. If he don't play defense, goddammit, there's
[18:39] Speaker 3: four other spots that do. You said curry didn't play
[18:42] Speaker 3: no defense.
[18:43] Speaker 1: They found people to do it and found a way
[18:45] Speaker 1: to win. Oh, you know, he's a liability.
[18:47] Speaker 2: How did that shit work?
[18:49] Speaker 1: Who was the liability? I was guarding them.
[18:54] Speaker 3: Because they played this they played Charlotte last, you know,
[18:57] Speaker 3: Charlotte watching the game.
[18:59] Speaker 2: They have a defensive player on them.
[19:03] Speaker 3: Look ahead.
[19:03] Speaker 1: What 38?
[19:03] Speaker 2: The guy he was going to have what for five.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:09] Speaker 3: Didn't look like he had to waste no energy in
[19:12] Speaker 3: that game. He just got to play one-sided. So when
[19:15] Speaker 3: you think about the game like that, you're not thinking
[19:19] Speaker 3: like a real athlete.
[19:20] Speaker 1: To stop a tiger, you need a tiger.
[19:23] Speaker 3: That tiger has to give him.
[19:24] Speaker 1: That fight, right?
[19:25] Speaker 3: So if you have a guy that does not score,
[19:29] Speaker 3: I'm not doing nothing. I'm just sitting here resting.
[19:33] Speaker 1: They kept putting the white boy in the pick and roll.
[19:35] Speaker 1: Charlotte game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Austin Reed and Luka, Austin
[19:39] Speaker 1: Reed and Luka, wherever the white boy was going.
[19:40] Speaker 1: You put in two guys who don't play no defense
[19:42] Speaker 2: But if you put a defense.
[19:42] Speaker 1: trust me they gonna tire themselves out run.
[19:43] Speaker 3: You have to put somebody in to go at him.
[19:44] Speaker 4: Around trying to score So I don't I don't want
[19:45] Speaker 4: to hear about.
[19:46] Speaker 3: Anything they got going on man. Y'all made a mistake
[19:46] Speaker 1: You have to put somebody in.
[19:47] Speaker 3: That's going to go at him.
[19:47] Speaker 3: Y'all deal with it now.
[20:04] Speaker 4: But for me, it's just coming down, though.
[20:07] Speaker 8: In the beginning, they wasn't saying chain and fire Lucas.
[20:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. From day one. From day one?
[20:14] Speaker 3: But that's the start of this season.
[20:16] Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Every game. It's been every game, bro. I
[20:19] Speaker 1: think it didn't start until the second game, if I'm
[20:21] Speaker 1: not mistaken. But at medieval times, local restaurants.
[20:24] Speaker 2: Was going to start.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Funerals. You lost the first home game. Boom, up on fire. Yeah, yeah.
[20:30] Speaker 3: I mean, but what do you expect? You're back. Your
[20:33] Speaker 3: leading score is them to your rookie, averaging 15. Well,
[20:37] Speaker 3: how many games do you think you're going to win?
[20:38] Speaker 3: Once Anthony Davis went down, there was no expectation of
[20:42] Speaker 3: y'all winning, unless y'all are that delusional. What's wrong with AD?
[20:46] Speaker 2: You have Kyrie gone.
[20:50] Speaker 1: AD's out.
[20:51] Speaker 2: Who else you think is about to just take the
[20:53] Speaker 2: team on their back?
[20:56] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So there was no expectation.
[20:58] Speaker 3: So it's easy to fire him now.
[21:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, better get, yeah.
[21:01] Speaker 1: So with the Mavs.
[21:02] Speaker 2: It's a distraction.
[21:03] Speaker 7: Right, so with the Mavs, do they, so to get
[21:06] Speaker 7: another mega star, superstar like Luka, they'll probably have to
[21:08] Speaker 7: go through the draft?
[21:09] Speaker 3: Because do you think any other player will come there? Yeah, no,
[21:11] Speaker 3: Dallas or Husker? Yeah, that's for sure.
[21:13] Speaker 2: After that?
[21:14] Speaker 6: Because it wasn't him. Like, he didn't, Luka didn't do it.
[21:17] Speaker 6: The person that did it, gone. Now the owner is
[21:19] Speaker 6: taking ownership.
[21:20] Speaker 2: I don't know if they have that relationship.
[21:23] Speaker 3: Cuban has certain relationship with certain.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Team where they had those pipelines. I don't know if
[21:28] Speaker 1: he's going.
[21:29] Speaker 3: To have it.
[21:29] Speaker 1: Good point.
[21:30] Speaker 3: Great point.
[21:31] Speaker 7: So I know you want to put, you know, Nico
[21:33] Speaker 7: in the middle of this, but it's like it backfires
[21:35] Speaker 7: you as an organization because now it's like, you know,
[21:37] Speaker 7: you probably have to wait to get a megastar, superstar
[21:40] Speaker 7: through the draft.
[21:41] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[21:43] Speaker 3: All right. Their pipeline, I know they had a pipeline
[21:49] Speaker 3: with us, Wizards. So when they were trading, they did
[21:53] Speaker 3: a lot of work between the two teams. And it
[21:56] Speaker 3: seems like they do have a pipeline between Lakers, LA.
[22:01] Speaker 3: So they have that pipeline where when you think about
[22:03] Speaker 3: some of their trades, think about where these guys are
[22:05] Speaker 3: coming from. So most likely there's teams that team up
[22:10] Speaker 3: and I'm going to trade with you.
[22:11] Speaker 2: You got something I need, I got something you need.
[22:12] Speaker 2: So when it comes to.
[22:16] Speaker 3: Superstars, I mean, there's not a lot of superstars for
[22:19] Speaker 3: you to be trying to trade for.
[22:20] Speaker 2: There's stars, but superstars, you got a name.
[22:23] Speaker 3: You don't need no other superstar. You need to just
[22:25] Speaker 3: build the team around him. But you had a megastar, though.
[22:28] Speaker 3: You had a megastar.
[22:29] Speaker 1: Cooper Flack can be a megastar.
[22:31] Speaker 2: Cooper Flack can be a megastar.
[22:32] Speaker 1: Okay, good. Put New Balance on his back.
[22:35] Speaker 7: But my thing with Luka, Luka came in and he
[22:37] Speaker 7: was already showing that he's going to be a megastar.
[22:39] Speaker 1: Like, that's what I'm saying. Was Luka already a megastar
[22:41] Speaker 1: at that point of the trade?
[22:43] Speaker 3: Internationally? No. Yeah. Luka? I mean, Luka had just came from– No, no, no.
[22:50] Speaker 1: No, no. He was big. Who, Luka? He was the
[22:51] Speaker 1: youngest player to play against a pro team. He played
[22:54] Speaker 1: against the Boston Celtics. What, at 13? Yes, yes.
[22:57] Speaker 3: It was like a shack.
[22:58] Speaker 1: One EuroLeague MVP was 17, 18 years old, but I
[23:00] Speaker 1: would say he was a megastar when that trade went down.
[23:03] Speaker 2: You get bigger.
[23:04] Speaker 3: But I'm not going to feel sorry for Dallas because
[23:07] Speaker 3: if you're a businessman, which they are, Only the fans
[23:14] Speaker 3: care that you got rid of Luka. You don't care
[23:17] Speaker 3: that you got rid of Luka because before that trade,
[23:21] Speaker 3: when you bought that franchise for 3.5.
[23:24] Speaker 2: You traded Luka.
[23:26] Speaker 3: That franchise now is worth $ 5 billion.
[23:28] Speaker 2: So if you sold today, you made money.
[23:33] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:34] Speaker 3: So you really don't give a shit that you got
[23:37] Speaker 3: rid of him. You just want to appease your fans
[23:39] Speaker 3: so they can still support the team. But business-wise, that
[23:42] Speaker 3: Luka trade helped all 30 owners. Lakers got their $ 10 billion. Clippers,
[23:50] Speaker 3: they bumped up to about $ 8 billion. New York is
[23:53] Speaker 3: going to be at 11 or 12 or 10. They're there,
[23:56] Speaker 3: and everybody else scales up. Ain't more than LA? Huh?
[23:59] Speaker 2: It's them two.
[24:01] Speaker 3: So basically, since LA is 10, New.
[24:04] Speaker 2: York can go out there and say, hey, we worth 12.
[24:06] Speaker 3: And the Lakers can come back, hey, we worth 13.
[24:10] Speaker 3: But everybody else just gets to move on up.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Hey. Thank you. Thank you, big dogs.
[24:15] Speaker 8: So what does the Lakers never really win? So what
[24:17] Speaker 8: does no team never win? Is it a mistake because
[24:20] Speaker 8: they just look better? Like, don't you gotta win a
[24:22] Speaker 8: championship to be considered the team to be a mistake?
[24:26] Speaker 1: It's selling for $ 10. 1 billion. I'm talking about a world trade.
[24:30] Speaker 1: You won. We won, but if we don't win, like,
[24:34] Speaker 1: it's all.
[24:34] Speaker 2: Let me try this again.
[24:36] Speaker 1: Let me just.
[24:38] Speaker 8: I know the stats and shit look good, but don't
[24:40] Speaker 8: you gotta win? Like, when AD came in from New Orleans,
[24:43] Speaker 8: he won. That's a win for us.
[24:44] Speaker 2: He won because of him.
[24:47] Speaker 3: Shit, AD was the best big.
[24:48] Speaker 1: Let me ask you something.
[24:50] Speaker 2: He played great. Let's be honest. Shut up, boy.
[24:55] Speaker 3: He wasn't the best big in the league then?
[24:57] Speaker 2: Probably not, no.
[24:59] Speaker 3: When AD won a championship.
[25:00] Speaker 2: He wasn't the best big in the league. Who was
[25:01] Speaker 2: better than him?
[25:03] Speaker 3: At that time, 2020? That's what I'm saying.
[25:05] Speaker 8: AD was the best big in the league.
[25:07] Speaker 1: The best power forward? No, no, no, no.
[25:09] Speaker 2: It would have been Giannis at that time. Giannis already had.
[25:13] Speaker 1: Two MVPs, right? Yeah.
[25:15] Speaker 3: At MVP or, yeah, he had one MVP at least. Remember,
[25:19] Speaker 3: he was giving AD buckets. Like, he was killing AD.
[25:21] Speaker 1: Because they won it the next year.
[25:24] Speaker 3: AD was the best big in the league.
[25:26] Speaker 1: But, I mean, if you're calling him a four, then
[25:28] Speaker 1: it would be in B, probably? He was in front
[25:30] Speaker 1: of Jokic at that point.
[25:31] Speaker 3: 2020 Jokic said, all right, that's what we're doing around here?
[25:40] Speaker 3: All right. I got something for y'all. Watch this.
[25:45] Speaker 6: I'm not taking anything off his plate, but I wouldn't
[25:47] Speaker 6: call it at the time. He wasn't the best big
[25:49] Speaker 6: in the league.
[25:50] Speaker 3: But if you said who won, if I got to
[25:53] Speaker 3: sell my team.
[25:54] Speaker 2: For $ 10 billion, for a guy who's just.
[25:56] Speaker 1: Been here 30-something games, yeah, I won. Of course, these
[26:04] Speaker 1: don't matter.
[26:05] Speaker 3: But that's a business. I mean, that's what I'm saying.
[26:10] Speaker 1: If Dallas sold today, they won.
[26:13] Speaker 8: Because you normally trade for somebody that, you know, you
[26:16] Speaker 8: think you're going to win a championship for.
[26:19] Speaker 6: Put pieces around him. He took Dallas to the championship.
[26:22] Speaker 6: There's a great possibility that he can win here. You
[26:24] Speaker 6: put the right pieces around him, yes. Kane, that's the
[26:26] Speaker 6: nicest thing you said about the election. No, I'm saying
[26:27] Speaker 6: because I look at the talent. I'm honest about what
[26:30] Speaker 6: I see. Now, Luka put bodies in the seats, man.
[26:33] Speaker 6: He's a showman. He's a showman. And this is where
[26:39] Speaker 6: you brought another showman into Los Angeles. That's what people
[26:44] Speaker 6: want to come see. Numbers and hot seats. And that's
[26:47] Speaker 6: what it is.
[26:49] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, did the Mavs make the
[26:51] Speaker 1: right decision on firing Nico Harrison? 75% of the chat
[26:54] Speaker 1: said firing Nico was a good move. 25 from Dallas.
[26:57] Speaker 2: Last name Harrison.
[27:01] Speaker 1: So, Nico Harrison received the bulk of the blame for
[27:03] Speaker 1: the Luka trade, but according to reports, Mavs ownership and
[27:06] Speaker 1: head coach Jason Kidd were aligned with the move, with
[27:09] Speaker 1: Dumont approving the deal. He had final say. Obviously, he
[27:13] Speaker 1: was a new booty, but he did have Mark Cuban
[27:14] Speaker 1: there to run it by. They were trying to flex
[27:16] Speaker 1: on him. Mark Cuban?
[27:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[27:17] Speaker 1: He said no?
[27:19] Speaker 3: No?
[27:20] Speaker 1: So, Dumont was sitting courtside at the Bucs game Monday,
[27:23] Speaker 1: his first time at a game since their season opener
[27:25] Speaker 1: on October 22nd. was seen interacting with a Mavs fan
[27:29] Speaker 1: in a Luka Lakers jersey for several minutes. So according
[27:32] Speaker 1: to reports, the fan's family is a season ticket holder
[27:35] Speaker 1: with seats a few rows behind Dumont. Fan wanted to
[27:37] Speaker 1: apologize to Dumont for shouting expletives and giving him the
[27:40] Speaker 1: finger during the season opener. During the exchange, Dumont admitted
[27:44] Speaker 1: trading Luka was a mistake and took accountability. Then he
[27:47] Speaker 1: fired Nico Harrison the next morning. We talked about this
[27:50] Speaker 1: a little bit, but how much blame does Nico Harrison
[27:52] Speaker 1: actually deserve for the Luka trade and the current state
[27:55] Speaker 1: of the Mavs?
[27:56] Speaker 3: Like I said before, he's a scapegoat. So they needed
[27:59] Speaker 3: somebody to blame.
[27:59] Speaker 1: Man, the Lakers going to pick him up or what?
[28:01] Speaker 1: Of course.
[28:02] Speaker 3: About to save. He got to.
[28:04] Speaker 2: He cool.
[28:06] Speaker 1: Nico. Nico. There's only one CD that's mad.
[28:11] Speaker 3: He definitely going to.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Get another job.
[28:13] Speaker 3: I mean, he might not get another job. Not a
[28:15] Speaker 3: GM job.
[28:16] Speaker 1: Okay.
[28:17] Speaker 3: As a GM, as a GM, remember the, like, that's
[28:21] Speaker 3: why I don't listen to them people right there. You
[28:23] Speaker 3: just gave that man an extension. You was just celebrating him.
[28:28] Speaker 1: Oh, my God, this is the smartest man I know.
[28:31] Speaker 2: Until he wasn't. They wasn't.
[28:33] Speaker 1: Now.
[28:34] Speaker 2: It wasn't them.
[28:36] Speaker 1: No, no, but, no, no, no.
[28:37] Speaker 2: It was the previous regime.
[28:39] Speaker 3: No, I thought the new owner gave him the extension. Yeah.
[28:42] Speaker 1: Let me see.
[28:43] Speaker 3: I think the new owner gave him the extension, right?
[28:45] Speaker 3: But then the new owner and Luca don't get along? Oh, man, listen.
[28:49] Speaker 2: Usually a new nigga don't get them all.
[28:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, so signed a multi-year contract extension in June 2024. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah.
[28:55] Speaker 2: This is man. That was right before the trade.
[28:57] Speaker 1: I just got here and I'm on the ship.
[28:58] Speaker 2: Right after the sale, right?
[28:59] Speaker 3: Right?
[29:01] Speaker 2: So right after the sale, they thought they was on
[29:02] Speaker 2: to something.
[29:02] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[29:03] Speaker 2: Like I said, they should have.
[29:04] Speaker 1: Didn't make the finals first time.
[29:05] Speaker 2: You know what?
[29:05] Speaker 6: They should have came in that motherfucker and be like,
[29:07] Speaker 6: I'm saying, man, when he came in there with the trade.
[29:09] Speaker 3: What?
[29:10] Speaker 2: When he brought the trade into him, he should have
[29:12] Speaker 2: let me. But that's what I'm saying. There had to
[29:13] Speaker 2: be something. That's what I'm saying.
[29:15] Speaker 3: You got to think about it.
[29:16] Speaker 1: No, no. You got to think about it, though.
[29:19] Speaker 3: There's a season that started, and then he's missing some games.
[29:23] Speaker 3: You know when a nigga misses some games, we act
[29:25] Speaker 3: different when we hurt.
[29:28] Speaker 2: And then he comes.
[29:29] Speaker 3: Back, 6-2, then you get rid of them. Not 0
[29:32] Speaker 3: and 8. Six and two, then you get rid of them, right?
[29:39] Speaker 3: So there had to be the conversations between them.
[29:43] Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's on one. He's this and that and that.
[29:47] Speaker 3: So they were all in agreeing of getting rid of
[29:50] Speaker 3: the guy who just got them to the finals, right?
[29:53] Speaker 3: Because if you think about, and I know a lot
[29:55] Speaker 3: of media don't know this, If you think about the
[29:58] Speaker 3: players they tried to trade them for, it makes sense.
[30:02] Speaker 3: They went to Minnesota. We want Anthony Edwards. You want
[30:07] Speaker 3: to make this trade? They said no.
[30:09] Speaker 1: What is he? Two-way player.
[30:10] Speaker 2: He plays offense and he plays defense. After that, hey, Spurs,
[30:16] Speaker 2: want to get rid of Winby?
[30:18] Speaker 1: No. What is he?
[30:20] Speaker 3: Defensive two-way player. Hey, Lakers, hey, man, y'all got 20 hours.
[30:26] Speaker 3: I'm trying to trade Luka.
[30:28] Speaker 1: What's up? Wait, what?
[30:29] Speaker 2: You're trying to trade Luka.
[30:31] Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on.
[30:31] Speaker 2: We got something for you. And that's how that worked out.
[30:34] Speaker 2: We have a two-way play. So they were trying to,
[30:36] Speaker 2: in their mind, get defense.
[30:38] Speaker 3: And I think what ends up happening is if you
[30:40] Speaker 3: stop the trade and you say, all right, we have Kyrie.
[30:45] Speaker 1: Healthy.
[30:47] Speaker 2: We have Anthony Davis healthy.
[30:49] Speaker 3: Right? We got P.J. Tucker who plays defense. We have Clay,
[30:53] Speaker 3: plays defense, plays offense. Right? Gafford and them. We got
[30:58] Speaker 3: our point guard who... We got our big man.
[31:01] Speaker 1: Like, we... Yo, we got a team.
[31:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he didn't have a triple-double, but on...
[31:08] Speaker 3: We are a solid-ass team, and we can possibly get
[31:12] Speaker 3: there and win it with this team. Like, if we're
[31:15] Speaker 3: thinking about it, like, if we take what they thought.
[31:17] Speaker 1: They would have, right.
[31:19] Speaker 3: and put them and replace them into that finals against Boston,
[31:23] Speaker 3: what does that series look like? So they're probably sitting
[31:26] Speaker 3: there thinking with that. Now what ends up happening is
[31:29] Speaker 3: Kyrie goes down. Right?
[31:32] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis goes down.
[31:34] Speaker 3: Now it's boo now because we will still have Luka.
[31:38] Speaker 1: He's playing.
[31:39] Speaker 2: You know, but you remember I said it from the beginning.
[31:43] Speaker 3: Dallas is never going to recover because of his age.
[31:46] Speaker 2: His age.
[31:48] Speaker 3: Has about eight to 12 more years, you have to
[31:52] Speaker 3: watch this man turn into what it looks like he
[31:58] Speaker 3: was already going to turn into. MVP, finals MVP, a champion.
[32:03] Speaker 3: You have to watch that in real time.
[32:06] Speaker 2: Every loss you have for it.
[32:08] Speaker 4: How does Cooper Flagg turn into that, too, though?
[32:11] Speaker 2: To them?
[32:11] Speaker 7: It's going to take time, though. It's going to take time.
[32:14] Speaker 7: It's going to take time. But Luka came in, though.
[32:17] Speaker 3: But even with Cooper Flagg, I mean, by the time
[32:19] Speaker 3: Cooper Flagg gets to the point where he is winning
[32:22] Speaker 3: for them, you get to watch a man average 37-11
[32:27] Speaker 3: right now, today, next year, the following year. You just
[32:32] Speaker 3: got to sit there with your 77s on like, hmm.
[32:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.
[32:38] Speaker 3: So it was that finals?
[32:40] Speaker 8: Man, the way Luka looked and got mad and was
[32:43] Speaker 8: looking on defense, how everybody was talking about him in
[32:46] Speaker 8: the media, that was.
[32:47] Speaker 7: No, I don't think so. I think it was just
[32:49] Speaker 7: the ownership. I don't think him and the owner get along.
[32:51] Speaker 3: And I think him and the owner never talked and
[32:54] Speaker 3: And Cuban, that's Luka's guy.
[32:56] Speaker 8: Luka being on that stage, everybody watching, it did look
[32:59] Speaker 8: kind of crazy.
[33:00] Speaker 1: Reports said Luka and Niko didn't see eye to eye either.
[33:02] Speaker 1: Niko wasn't really messing with Luka like that.
[33:04] Speaker 3: Probably.
[33:05] Speaker 7: I mean, but that's what everything in business is. When
[33:07] Speaker 7: a new ownership come in, they want to change things.
[33:09] Speaker 2: You said it looked crazy in the finals?
[33:10] Speaker 1: It looked crazy.
[33:11] Speaker 7: Didn't he have his 30, 40, 32, 8 and 8?
[33:17] Speaker 3: I look crazy.
[33:18] Speaker 2: Everything looks crazy.
[33:19] Speaker 7: I mean, but nobody had one of those. Did you
[33:21] Speaker 7: guys have Dallas winning?
[33:23] Speaker 1: That shit, too.
[33:24] Speaker 2: It always looks crazy.
[33:26] Speaker 1: Did anybody have Dallas winning?
[33:28] Speaker 3: Hell no.
[33:30] Speaker 4: But with the team he just said in the finals,
[33:33] Speaker 4: that team.
[33:34] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Defensively, they look a lot better, right?
[33:38] Speaker 3: Now you're talking about controlling the paint, right? Now you
[33:41] Speaker 3: have Anthony Davis. Now, you got to think about it.
[33:44] Speaker 3: Anthony Davis has to guard who? Or no, Tatum has
[33:47] Speaker 3: to guard Anthony Davis in the post. Or Horford. Huh? No,
[33:51] Speaker 3: Horford got to guard the five. Gafford and them running
[33:54] Speaker 3: up and down. So, you know what I mean? So,
[33:56] Speaker 3: they're probably looking at stuff like that, which is not
[33:59] Speaker 3: the right way to look at it.
[34:00] Speaker 6: I'm glad you said it. You know what I mean?
[34:03] Speaker 6: I was waiting on you because I was about to
[34:04] Speaker 6: say the wrong way to.
[34:05] Speaker 2: Be looking at it.
[34:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was definitely. It's over for them, man.
[34:10] Speaker 1: They had a good year. They had a good what?
[34:14] Speaker 1: They had a good year, man. You know, the Western
[34:17] Speaker 1: Conference Finals is in the air.
[34:18] Speaker 2: Then, you know, right now, what you going to do?
[34:20] Speaker 2: You going to look at Andy Davis and say, yo,
[34:22] Speaker 2: how many games we got out of you?
[34:23] Speaker 1: Nine?
[34:24] Speaker 3: We're ready to trade you. For sure.
[34:27] Speaker 1: Let's get into that. So after the Luka trade, Nico
[34:29] Speaker 1: Harrison said time will tell that he made the right move.
[34:32] Speaker 1: He won't be there to see if his prediction come true.
[34:34] Speaker 1: But the Mavs have yet to be at full strength
[34:36] Speaker 1: since dealing with Luka in February. Like we mentioned, Kyrie's
[34:39] Speaker 1: been out since March with the ACL injury.
[34:41] Speaker 2: A.D.
[34:41] Speaker 1: Has played in 14 of a possible 44 games. Currently
[34:44] Speaker 1: dealing with a calf strain. This season, the sideline for
[34:47] Speaker 1: the last six games after reportedly showing up to training
[34:50] Speaker 1: camp 15 pounds heavier than he did last season. Derrick
[34:53] Speaker 1: Lodley's only played in three games. Klay Thompson been moved
[34:56] Speaker 1: to the bench while averaging a career-low seven points per game.
[34:59] Speaker 1: Now there are reports that the Mavs are looking to
[35:00] Speaker 1: trade both Klay and A.D., So should the Mavs still
[35:04] Speaker 1: have faith in this roster until Kyrie's return, or is
[35:06] Speaker 1: it time to blow it up?
[35:10] Speaker 3: You just said that they are trading him.
[35:13] Speaker 1: According to reports, they're exploring. Hey, everybody. So that means
[35:17] Speaker 1: it's happening. I mean, it has not happened. That's just
[35:20] Speaker 1: they're looking into it.
[35:21] Speaker 3: Okay, so what you're thinking is if they just sit
[35:25] Speaker 3: and wait until next year.
[35:26] Speaker 1: To see what we have, I mean, according to Jackson Kidd, Kyrie,
[35:33] Speaker 1: on schedule. I'll say hold up, man.
[35:35] Speaker 2: I mean, I know people hate when I do this.
[35:37] Speaker 1: Hold up, man.
[35:38] Speaker 3: People hate when I do this.
[35:40] Speaker 1: What?
[35:40] Speaker 3: Here we go. What you about to say, man? You
[35:43] Speaker 3: have one dude who got the Matilda body, you know,
[35:49] Speaker 3: came in. Now, obviously, that calf strain, you know, he
[35:53] Speaker 3: got the Matilda body right now. He's injury prone for
[35:58] Speaker 3: whatever odd reasons. You have Kyrie out. With them two
[36:03] Speaker 3: being out for at least another month or two, and
[36:05] Speaker 3: with Anthony Davis, we already know that calf turns into Achilles.
[36:10] Speaker 3: So you better watch out. You gotta watch out for
[36:12] Speaker 3: the rest of your career. I mean, you know, if
[36:15] Speaker 3: you want to have a longer career. So, I'm shutting
[36:22] Speaker 3: it down.
[36:24] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, sit. Kyrie, get healthy.
[36:30] Speaker 3: Sit.
[36:31] Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg, whoever, do your thing.
[36:33] Speaker 3: If I can trade, but if I don't want to
[36:35] Speaker 3: trade and wait for next year, I want my team
[36:37] Speaker 3: healthy for next year. Cooper Flagg, do you. Go out
[36:41] Speaker 3: there and try to just turn your motor in. I
[36:44] Speaker 3: want you to be the point guard, two, three, four, five.
[36:47] Speaker 3: I want you to just try to figure out what
[36:51] Speaker 3: you can add. And then going into next year, we have...
[36:55] Speaker 3: our pieces, if we can trade, Clay, get something better, like,
[36:59] Speaker 3: then you can do that. If I really believe in
[37:01] Speaker 3: this franchise, I mean, in this team, if they're all healthy.
[37:05] Speaker 3: Because if they're all healthy, I mean, it is going
[37:07] Speaker 3: to be a very different team. I mean, your 3-4-5 is.
[37:12] Speaker 1: Big as fuck. That's a big if.
[37:14] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[37:16] Speaker 3: If they come in and everybody, and they said everybody,
[37:18] Speaker 3: you got Cooper Flagg at 6'11, as your three.
[37:24] Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, four.
[37:26] Speaker 2: Gafford at the five or Lively at the five. That's
[37:28] Speaker 2: a big-ass unit. That's a big-ass unit. You know what
[37:32] Speaker 2: I mean, right?
[37:33] Speaker 3: And then you got at the two, you're going to
[37:36] Speaker 3: have P.J. Washington.
[37:38] Speaker 1: Come off the bench.
[37:40] Speaker 2: Then they got to find a two.
[37:42] Speaker 8: He can't guard the two.
[37:46] Speaker 2: He can't guard the two?
[37:47] Speaker 1: I don't think so.
[37:48] Speaker 3: But do you have two with them three seven-footers back there?
[37:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta run around, chase the motherfuckers.
[37:54] Speaker 3: I know when you was in Denver, the two couldn't
[37:56] Speaker 3: guard me, but I know one place I wasn't going.
[38:02] Speaker 3: If I got by you, Marcus Canby's right there. If
[38:04] Speaker 3: I got by Marcus, you was right there. What season
[38:09] Speaker 3: is it?
[38:09] Speaker 8: I think we said the same shit last season on
[38:12] Speaker 8: this couch.
[38:13] Speaker 4: About the same team.
[38:16] Speaker 8: That look good, gonna have a big lineup. Then we
[38:19] Speaker 8: tell them, Let's trade everybody, man. Let's trade A.D.
[38:22] Speaker 1: Ass.
[38:23] Speaker 3: It's time. We can't keep doing this. We're talking about.
[38:26] Speaker 1: The hypotheticals that this roster was healthy. P.J.
[38:29] Speaker 3: Washington, they healthy with Kyrie.
[38:32] Speaker 2: I said I'm sitting them so they can be healthy.
[38:34] Speaker 3: They gonna be good, man.
[38:36] Speaker 1: I said I'm sitting them.
[38:40] Speaker 2: I said I'm sitting them so they can be healthy
[38:42] Speaker 2: for next year.
[38:43] Speaker 3: I wouldn't even waste my time even trying to bring
[38:45] Speaker 3: Anthony Davis back.
[38:46] Speaker 1: A.D.
[38:47] Speaker 3: In another year. Older. Kyrie, another year older. Klay, another
[38:52] Speaker 3: year older.
[38:52] Speaker 1: They gave up on Klay. They gave up on him.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Their office is not made for Klay.
[38:57] Speaker 7: I mean, there's some pieces over there in Sacramento that
[38:59] Speaker 7: they're trying to get rid of, too.
[39:01] Speaker 3: Man. It's a lot of movement. They need to blow that.
[39:04] Speaker 3: Or have Megan perform at half. I'm saying it's a
[39:05] Speaker 3: lot of pieces out there to be made. Megan, get
[39:08] Speaker 3: out there and perform.
[39:09] Speaker 2: At this point, man, it's like, hey, Clay, man.
[39:10] Speaker 3: Hey, Clay, can you get.
[39:13] Speaker 1: Her to do WAP real quick?
[39:14] Speaker 3: Can you give me a couple minutes?
[39:17] Speaker 1: Shit, just do a WAP, man.
[39:19] Speaker 2: That defends a lot.
[39:20] Speaker 1: Clay did have 28 against the Bucks.
[39:23] Speaker 3: With Clay, man, you got to get him part of
[39:25] Speaker 3: the office, man. If he ain't part of the office, man.
[39:27] Speaker 3: He's just out there.
[39:28] Speaker 2: No, he's just out there just.
[39:30] Speaker 4: He'll be a good fit on.
[39:33] Speaker 3: Championship team.
[39:34] Speaker 1: He'll be a good one in L.A.
[39:35] Speaker 3: He should have kicked out.
[39:37] Speaker 1: Should have kicked out four for 80.
[39:38] Speaker 3: Oh! You coming back?
[39:44] Speaker 1: I wanted to.
[39:46] Speaker 2: Clay need to go to Denver.
[39:48] Speaker 1: Hey, Dallas. I like Denver. Hey, Dallas.
[39:51] Speaker 3: You need Rui in the cover pieces?
[39:55] Speaker 7: Trying to get rid of AD.
[39:57] Speaker 1: We'll take him back.
[39:59] Speaker 2: We'll take him back.
[40:00] Speaker 1: Now we got Luka and AD.
[40:03] Speaker 3: Hey, if that happened, that'd be the fucking trick bag
[40:07] Speaker 3: out of his world. They're trying to trade AD, and
[40:10] Speaker 3: we fuck around. Y'all got a first-round pick. We give
[40:12] Speaker 3: them first-round picks. We give them Rui. We give them this, this, this,
[40:17] Speaker 3: and they get. No.
[40:19] Speaker 1: Y'all can connect. Straight up. We give you everybody. We
[40:23] Speaker 1: just want Luka. We just want Luka still.
[40:25] Speaker 3: As long as we keep him. As long as y'all
[40:27] Speaker 3: got Luka. Can they do that right now? They can
[40:30] Speaker 3: do that right now.
[40:33] Speaker 1: Let's talk a little Cooper.
[40:34] Speaker 3: Has anybody did that? Got traded. Nobody got traded and
[40:38] Speaker 3: then actually ended. I know someone had to do it
[40:41] Speaker 3: for them to put a rule in that they got
[40:44] Speaker 3: traded and then end up somehow.
[40:46] Speaker 2: Got to wait a certain amount of months.
[40:48] Speaker 1: Okay. All right, well, Nico Harrison getting booted overshadowed what
[40:53] Speaker 1: was Cooper Flagg's best game so far in his rookie season.
[40:57] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the highlights if we can, please.
[41:00] Speaker 1: So I know we've talked a lot about Flagg on
[41:02] Speaker 1: this couch only 18 years old, but Flagg gave Mavs
[41:04] Speaker 1: fans reason for optimism. dropping a career-high 26 points on
[41:07] Speaker 1: nine of 15 shooting, along with nine rebounds and four assists.
[41:12] Speaker 1: Flagg also scored six of those points in clutch time,
[41:15] Speaker 1: including a driving layup over Giannis with 27 seconds remaining
[41:18] Speaker 1: to give Dallas a one-point lead. He's starting to look
[41:21] Speaker 1: more comfortable out here. And he is the future of
[41:24] Speaker 1: the franchise, as we've already discussed. Like I said, the
[41:30] Speaker 1: Mavs looked good in this game for the most part,
[41:31] Speaker 1: had a double-digit lead early in the fourth quarter before
[41:34] Speaker 1: tricking that off. Then Giannis had 15 of his 30
[41:36] Speaker 1: points in that fourth quarter. Ooh, spin. Give me that. Hey. Hey. Yeah.
[41:43] Speaker 3: Get over here.
[41:45] Speaker 1: Oh.
[41:45] Speaker 3: They've been going at it.
[41:47] Speaker 1: Hey.
[41:48] Speaker 3: You see it. Give me that.
[41:51] Speaker 1: Spin.
[41:51] Speaker 3: Oh, no.
[41:52] Speaker 1: You're too little.
[41:54] Speaker 3: Ryan, I like Ryan for a while, though.
[41:56] Speaker 2: Got it.
[41:56] Speaker 1: Twin, twin. Okay. New balance.
[41:59] Speaker 3: Oh, is that Giannis?
[42:00] Speaker 1: Hey.
[42:01] Speaker 4: Is that you, Giannis?
[42:02] Speaker 1: Chest to chest with Giannis.
[42:04] Speaker 2: He should have did the little, too small. That would
[42:06] Speaker 2: have been great.
[42:08] Speaker 1: No.
[42:08] Speaker 2: You got to play that man again.
[42:10] Speaker 1: Don't do it already.
[42:12] Speaker 3: Hey.
[42:12] Speaker 2: You only live once.
[42:14] Speaker 1: That shit work for some.
[42:15] Speaker 3: Hey, listen.
[42:16] Speaker 2: I'm getting my shit out.
[42:17] Speaker 1: Hey, have 70 next time you see him.
[42:18] Speaker 3: Like, hey.
[42:24] Speaker 1: So I don't remember. I got it. I got it.
[42:26] Speaker 1: I'll work on the 70 later. Flag is now averaging
[42:27] Speaker 1: 15.7 rebounds, three assists, 42, 26, 89 shooting splits. Gil
[42:28] Speaker 1: is flag proving he can be a star in this league.
[42:30] Speaker 3: Did you not see what we just watched? Hey, you see,
[42:53] Speaker 3: he's going at a defensive player.
[42:57] Speaker 1: Like, Giannis is a high-level defensive player.
[43:00] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So he's out there showing
[43:03] Speaker 3: that he has.
[43:04] Speaker 2: A little bit of everything.
[43:06] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[43:08] Speaker 3: No matter where you put him, put the ball in
[43:10] Speaker 3: his hand, he can make things happen. So, I mean,
[43:13] Speaker 3: he's looking like he's about to. It's 15 today in
[43:17] Speaker 3: the beginning of the season is the hardest because you
[43:19] Speaker 3: don't know nothing.
[43:20] Speaker 1: First 10 games.
[43:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, 10 games now. Another 10 games, he's going to
[43:24] Speaker 2: look different.
[43:25] Speaker 1: Another 10.
[43:25] Speaker 6: Yeah, so you got to look at him in them increments, man.
[43:29] Speaker 6: And 10-10. Yeah, let's look at his growth, how he's
[43:32] Speaker 6: approaching the game. He looks more comfortable in that game.
[43:37] Speaker 6: Finding out his spots, finding out defensive tendencies, what God's
[43:40] Speaker 6: trying to make him do.
[43:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[43:44] Speaker 6: Paying attention to how teams are playing him, right? So
[43:48] Speaker 6: I think he's calculating that data. This is how they're
[43:52] Speaker 6: trying to play me. This is where I can get
[43:53] Speaker 6: to my spots. This is what I need to do
[43:54] Speaker 6: to be successful. And more games go by. Yeah, and J.
[44:00] Speaker 6: Kidd is going to put him in a successful situation.
[44:02] Speaker 1: So flag 11 games in his career so far, three
[44:06] Speaker 1: 20-point games, scored in double figures in 10 of those
[44:08] Speaker 1: 11 games. I know there were some opinions about him
[44:12] Speaker 1: in recent weeks. Only 18 years old.
[44:16] Speaker 2: After one game.
[44:16] Speaker 1: Can't make excuses.
[44:18] Speaker 3: I think what he's doing right now is going to
[44:20] Speaker 3: help him.
[44:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been aggressive, man.
[44:22] Speaker 3: In his NBA career. Aggressive.
[44:23] Speaker 2: That's what we look for.
[44:24] Speaker 1: Aggression. I think the first game.
[44:27] Speaker 3: Like moves. Like you mean when it comes to moves, right?
[44:31] Speaker 3: We watch your movement. We watch what shots you're getting into.
[44:36] Speaker 3: Making them comes with experience and over time. So I
[44:39] Speaker 3: just watched, all right, he got there. Okay, that looked
[44:42] Speaker 3: easy for him. Okay, you hit him with the spin,
[44:44] Speaker 3: step back. Okay, clear shot. You making it, that's when
[44:47] Speaker 3: you start getting your reps in of, you know, so
[44:51] Speaker 3: like his movement, how he gets open, the shots he's
[44:54] Speaker 3: taking is elite shots for his size and how he's
[44:57] Speaker 3: playing this game. So once he starts mastering this, I mean,
[45:01] Speaker 3: he's going to be trouble.
[45:02] Speaker 4: Yeah, I like how he take advantage too, a little guard.
[45:04] Speaker 8: When he had a little guard, he didn't settle for
[45:06] Speaker 8: the three, took Ryan a little ass down there.
[45:08] Speaker 1: He's going to be all right.
[45:10] Speaker 8: I think the first game just messed people's heads up,
[45:13] Speaker 8: first impressions.
[45:14] Speaker 2: You did a double-double?
[45:15] Speaker 4: But I know you're going to say it's a double-double.
[45:18] Speaker 2: No, I'm saying it was a double-double.
[45:20] Speaker 3: Well, it looked bad then. It was a bad double.
[45:22] Speaker 2: I didn't know a double-double looked bad.
[45:24] Speaker 1: Bad double-double.
[45:25] Speaker 2: I would love a bad double-double.
[45:26] Speaker 3: You do.
[45:26] Speaker 1: I would. I know.
[45:28] Speaker 8: But just for me, compared to the way the other
[45:30] Speaker 8: rookies started, that kind of messed them up. But he's
[45:33] Speaker 8: in balling. He's in balling, man. It's going to be
[45:36] Speaker 8: ups and downs. Is there a thing as a bad 50?
[45:39] Speaker 3: Yeah. Is it a bad 50? You said it. Cam Thomas.
[45:43] Speaker 1: K just, no.
[45:44] Speaker 3: I mean, K, 45 with 46 with 45 shots.
[45:46] Speaker 1: She's terrible.
[45:47] Speaker 2: She was fine.
[45:48] Speaker 3: She was terrible.
[45:50] Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible, but it's terrible, but it's not.
[45:53] Speaker 1: It's not.
[45:54] Speaker 2: Because, I mean, you know, like my point, my point.
[45:56] Speaker 2: It's still going up.
[45:57] Speaker 1: It's still going up. The percentage might go down. But
[46:01] Speaker 1: the percentage will go up.
[46:02] Speaker 2: Definitely went down.
[46:03] Speaker 1: The percentage, yes, the percentage might go down. But 50
[46:06] Speaker 1: is 50.
[46:06] Speaker 3: 50 is 50. No, I think.
[46:09] Speaker 7: No, but I think the position Cooper flagged him right now,
[46:12] Speaker 7: running the one at early in his career, I think
[46:15] Speaker 7: it's going to help him.
[46:16] Speaker 1: Later on in his career. He's averaging 15 to 7.
[46:19] Speaker 7: I think, you know, if he keeps going at this rate,
[46:21] Speaker 7: you know, you can see him between 23, 25 points
[46:23] Speaker 7: a game, 12, 14 rebounds.
[46:26] Speaker 3: Easy, easy. Just by the way it's going and why
[46:28] Speaker 3: he's playing.
[46:29] Speaker 7: I love the fact that when Giannis came down and dunked,
[46:31] Speaker 7: he came down and hit Giannis in the chest and
[46:33] Speaker 7: got a big bucket, so.
[46:34] Speaker 3: He's having flashes and he's going to keep having flashes.
[46:36] Speaker 6: So yeah, man, as long as you like my first game,
[46:39] Speaker 6: I came out there, motherfucker, four for 16. Like next game,
[46:43] Speaker 6: I only got six shots, then 14 shots, 17 shots,
[46:45] Speaker 6: 15 shots, 17 shots.
[46:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, kicked in.
[46:57] Speaker 3: Regression, that's, you know, I think some people, like when
[47:01] Speaker 3: you're trying to get your confidence at that next level.
[47:04] Speaker 4: You took 17 shots before?
[47:09] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but.
[47:10] Speaker 2: Like, Nick, don't... You really got me fucked up. You
[47:14] Speaker 2: got him fucked up.
[47:16] Speaker 1: There you go.
[47:17] Speaker 3: I don't like this soft-ass soup.
[47:19] Speaker 1: No, let's talk here. Let's talk here. Get this shit out, man.
[47:22] Speaker 2: That's who it is.
[47:23] Speaker 7: Nice.
[47:24] Speaker 1: You got me fucked up. Yeah, thank you.
[47:27] Speaker 3: God damn.
[47:28] Speaker 6: Like, you met me when I was coming off the bench. Like,
[47:30] Speaker 6: when I came to y'all... I need some keen energy. Like,
[47:33] Speaker 6: when you first saw me, that was... To micro fracture
[47:37] Speaker 6: surgery the patella surgery later like all that shit was later, bro.
[47:44] Speaker 3: Clothesline niggas for no reason I did a childhood video
[47:47] Speaker 3: he watched I was no I was no running plays
[47:50] Speaker 3: for like don't make no forget. I was him dog.
[47:52] Speaker 3: I Y'all talk about Cooper Fly. I was the number
[48:02] Speaker 3: one pick. Don't get it twisted, nigga. Like, unanimous college
[48:06] Speaker 3: player of the year, number one pick coming off an injury.
[48:08] Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted, nigga. Back then, it was different.
[48:11] Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck? Back then, it was big.
[48:13] Speaker 1: Big man. Yeah. Still him.
[48:15] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying. Him.
[48:16] Speaker 8: 17 shots for a big power forward back then.
[48:19] Speaker 1: Yes.
[48:20] Speaker 6: Went three for 23 in the finals game, nigga. You
[48:24] Speaker 6: got 20 shots in the finals game? I don't think so.
[48:26] Speaker 3: That's why y'all lost. You shot it 23 times.
[48:28] Speaker 1: No wonder.
[48:30] Speaker 3: I was like, 23 times.
[48:31] Speaker 4: I was just fucking with you.
[48:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
[48:33] Speaker 2: So who else getting 20 shots on the team besides
[48:36] Speaker 2: the man? I'm just asking.
[48:39] Speaker 3: But three for 20. Three for 23.
[48:41] Speaker 2: Nigga, I kept shooting.
[48:42] Speaker 1: Nigga, yeah. Trying to win. Nigga kept shooting.
[48:45] Speaker 3: At some point, he's like, hey, man. See, and that's
[48:48] Speaker 3: the problem I have, right? When you're talking about gaining
[48:53] Speaker 3: confidence at this level. The one thing you don't want
[48:58] Speaker 3: to do is beat yourself. And beating yourself is you
[49:02] Speaker 3: miss a few shots. Then you start thinking about the
[49:05] Speaker 3: percentage where people start thinking, then now you come docile.
[49:08] Speaker 3: Now you don't want to be aggressive. Now you're not
[49:10] Speaker 3: taking over. Now you're questioning yourself. And that's what ends
[49:13] Speaker 3: up happening.
[49:14] Speaker 1: For sure. Those elites, elites, three for 16, three.
[49:19] Speaker 3: For 17, five for 20, like 32. You know, I
[49:23] Speaker 3: took 42 shots to score 42. Like, I'm not letting
[49:26] Speaker 3: you stop me. I'm going to keep going because at
[49:29] Speaker 3: some point I miss five in a row, I'm going
[49:30] Speaker 3: to make five in a row. I was 0 for
[49:32] Speaker 3: 10 in the first half, 10 for 10 in the
[49:34] Speaker 3: second half. You shot 42 times?
[49:37] Speaker 2: I didn't need to shoot 42 times.
[49:39] Speaker 1: If I got to shoot 42 times, brother... All right, well,
[49:43] Speaker 1: let's keep this thing moving. We have some breaking news.
[49:46] Speaker 2: Oh, you seen it, too?
[49:47] Speaker 1: Breaking news. Unfortunate news.
[49:51] Speaker 3: Nick Young has the Jalen Brown.
[49:54] Speaker 2: Beijing in this here.
[49:55] Speaker 1: Oh shit. He's lost this shit. That is that was
[49:58] Speaker 1: not the breaking news. I was referring to but oh
[50:01] Speaker 1: Upon further investigation.
[50:04] Speaker 3: Oh That's not the breaking news it does look nice though, I.
[50:12] Speaker 1: Can't tell now I'm very smooth lineup In all sincerity,
[50:17] Speaker 1: we do have some breaking news from Shams unfortunate news.
[50:20] Speaker 1: So Clippers guard Bradley bill is has a fracture in
[50:23] Speaker 1: his hip to undergo season-ending surgery. So Bill signed a two-year,
[50:27] Speaker 1: $ 11 million deal with the Clippers this summer after his
[50:29] Speaker 1: buyout from the Suns, which includes a player option this summer.
[50:32] Speaker 1: So far this season, struggling a little bit, averaging eight points,
[50:34] Speaker 1: two assists. Just one rebound, appearing in six games. Clippers
[50:39] Speaker 1: currently seven and three, lost five straight games. Kawhi Leonard
[50:42] Speaker 1: also missed the last five games with a right ankle sprain,
[50:45] Speaker 1: but you hear that news, obviously just came down a
[50:47] Speaker 1: few minutes ago from Shams.
[50:49] Speaker 3: Oh, and Dodd, man. Dodd. Fracturing your hip? How'd that happen?
[50:56] Speaker 3: When did it happen?
[50:56] Speaker 1: During the game? Sure reason.
[50:58] Speaker 3: Practice?
[50:59] Speaker 1: No. It don't practice. Get out the bed? It don't practice.
[51:02] Speaker 1: Probably fail.
[51:03] Speaker 3: That's a skinny man's injury. That's something Wimby would probably have.
[51:07] Speaker 3: Chasing his.
[51:08] Speaker 1: I mean, knock on wood, hopefully he does not.
[51:11] Speaker 8: Going to the ATM. He tripped at the curve going
[51:14] Speaker 8: to the ATM.
[51:15] Speaker 3: I knew it.
[51:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
[51:16] Speaker 1: I know. Because he ain't did shit. I know, like,
[51:19] Speaker 1: he's been injured for, what, four years now, man. Like,
[51:22] Speaker 1: that juju's bad right now.
[51:24] Speaker 3: So, man, you just got to take time to yourself, heal, man,
[51:28] Speaker 3: get away from the game a little bit. I mean,
[51:30] Speaker 3: you're out.
[51:30] Speaker 1: He's been away from the game.
[51:31] Speaker 2: Go be happy. So, get your mood back. Because right now, obviously,
[51:36] Speaker 2: you know.
[51:36] Speaker 1: This ain't going to help that kid.
[51:38] Speaker 3: Let's retire. Getting hurt.
[51:39] Speaker 2: Ain't going to help that.
[51:40] Speaker 1: So, unclear how, you know, you know how it is.
[51:42] Speaker 1: When you fucked up and you got negative energy on you, man,
[51:46] Speaker 1: shit just happens.
[51:48] Speaker 2: You're in, you're out.
[51:49] Speaker 1: You're in, you're out. It just happens. You're in, you're out.
[51:51] Speaker 1: I dig it. You start cleaning shit, clean your house
[51:54] Speaker 1: up a little bit.
[51:55] Speaker 6: But if everything is in order for him in that regard.
[51:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, he got a maid.
[51:59] Speaker 1: In that regard.
[52:00] Speaker 4: He probably tripped on the stairs.
[52:02] Speaker 1: So unclear how he suffered the injury. But according to
[52:05] Speaker 1: his agent, Mark Bartelstein. Something. So according to agent Mark Bartelstein,
[52:08] Speaker 1: he said, we met with numerous doctors and specialists around
[52:10] Speaker 1: the country. in collaboration with the entire Clippers medical staff
[52:13] Speaker 1: over the last few days, came to the decision unanimously
[52:16] Speaker 1: that the surgery will allow Brad to have a full
[52:18] Speaker 1: and complete recovery.
[52:20] Speaker 3: Speed recovery.
[52:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
[52:28] Speaker 3: I mean, that's how my end of career started looking.
[52:34] Speaker 3: Where you just get injured, train, come back, get injured, train,
[52:39] Speaker 3: come back, get injured.
[52:41] Speaker 1: Now you got a.
[52:41] Speaker 3: Healthy seed getting traded. Bone spurs, got to get those out, right?
[52:45] Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, and then when I thought I
[52:47] Speaker 3: was ready to play again, go to China, cool growing.
[52:52] Speaker 3: Come back, rehab, ready to go. Getting ready to try out.
[52:57] Speaker 3: You ain't never rehabbed. Go to Drew League.
[53:00] Speaker 1: Go to Drew League, torn meniscus.
[53:02] Speaker 3: Brandon did this to you at the Drew League, that's why.
[53:04] Speaker 3: Torn my meniscus, just. Had a night, but I was
[53:07] Speaker 3: killing it. I had 28 quick, like, oh, I'm ready.
[53:10] Speaker 1: We had fun.
[53:10] Speaker 2: And then two days later, knee swelled up.
[53:13] Speaker 1: Done. So Bill hasn't hit the 60-game mark since the
[53:16] Speaker 1: 2020-21 season, which was the last time he was an
[53:18] Speaker 1: All-Star as well. I'm letting you know, Gil. Letting the
[53:22] Speaker 1: fans know. We're watching the show, but.
[53:23] Speaker 3: And wherever that body is, man, go ahead and just,
[53:26] Speaker 3: you know.
[53:26] Speaker 2: Put it in the grave and just bury the hatchet and,
[53:30] Speaker 2: you know.
[53:31] Speaker 3: Damn. I'm just saying, like, whatever, like, if you got
[53:34] Speaker 3: any enemies out there, man, hey, hey, I apologize to them.
[53:37] Speaker 2: You got to get your.
[53:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get your... You got to get your...
[53:40] Speaker 3: Clean your pipes, man, sometimes.
[53:42] Speaker 1: They get exempt. Like, he ain't played today. They get, like,
[53:44] Speaker 1: some type of exemption. Yeah, we'll probably get some bread
[53:46] Speaker 1: back for that.
[53:47] Speaker 3: Not even that.
[53:47] Speaker 2: It's just being able to add a player to the roster.
[53:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, like an inter-player exemption or just have a player exemption, yeah.
[53:52] Speaker 3: Got to do the work outside of basketball.
[53:55] Speaker 2: He's making the Kings ransom.
[53:56] Speaker 3: This has really never been.
[53:58] Speaker 1: We got that bread and butter for the buyout, but
[54:00] Speaker 1: two-year 11 mil from the other.
[54:02] Speaker 3: What's the most games he played? I think when he
[54:04] Speaker 3: was in the Wizards jersey.
[54:04] Speaker 2: He was hurt with the Wizards.
[54:06] Speaker 1: So he had a couple of, let me see. I
[54:07] Speaker 1: think the most games. He played 82 games in 2017, 18, 18, 19.
[54:09] Speaker 1: He played 82, 82.
[54:09] Speaker 3: That's what got him that pay.
[54:11] Speaker 1: 82, 82, then average, then 57 and 20.
[54:12] Speaker 2: That was the COVID year. And then played 60.
[54:26] Speaker 1: 77, 82, 82.
[54:26] Speaker 3: Then the COVID year, 57.
[54:29] Speaker 1: So since the 21 season.
[54:30] Speaker 3: It's been 40 games, 50 games, 53, 53. And now
[54:32] Speaker 3: six games this season with the fracturing.
[54:34] Speaker 2: And the sad part is, with.
[54:35] Speaker 1: All of this, those bad years, average 23, 23, 18,
[54:36] Speaker 1: and 17. And being injured. Right?
[54:56] Speaker 3: When you talk about like this, he ain't been here,
[55:00] Speaker 3: he's washed.
[55:01] Speaker 2: Those years is 23, 23, 18, and 17.
[55:02] Speaker 1: Cleanse.
[55:02] Speaker 2: Get baptized.
[55:03] Speaker 1: Get in the water.
[55:11] Speaker 3: You know, revert to Islam. I don't know what you do.
[55:14] Speaker 3: Do something different at this point. Just do something different.
[55:21] Speaker 2: If you're dating white, go black.
[55:22] Speaker 3: If you're dating black, go white. If you're dating both
[55:25] Speaker 3: of them, go foreign.
[55:27] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Just do something. Just do something different.
[55:31] Speaker 1: He's mentally not in basketball right now. How much he
[55:33] Speaker 1: average this year? About eight points per game. In six games.
[55:44] Speaker 3: Man. Stop making us. Ain't no excuses. So legally buried 2020,
[55:51] Speaker 3: had the ceremony 2020. No, what Gil's saying is some
[55:52] Speaker 3: real shit.
[55:53] Speaker 1: You better start doing outside work, outside of hoop.
[55:55] Speaker 3: You got to get away.
[55:58] Speaker 2: Right now, I'm just saying, listen, you hurt.
[56:01] Speaker 3: Before you get your surgery, or you can get it
[56:03] Speaker 3: right now, wait two weeks, you, your wife, your kids,
[56:08] Speaker 3: go somewhere. Get away from the game, man. Write down
[56:12] Speaker 3: your goals. Review your life. Look at the things you've
[56:15] Speaker 3: accomplished in this. Look at your family. Start like, this
[56:19] Speaker 3: is what I have, right? Once you start understanding what
[56:21] Speaker 3: you have, you know where you're going. You know, sometimes
[56:24] Speaker 3: we're just moving so much in real time that we
[56:27] Speaker 3: don't really appreciate what we have, what we've done to
[56:32] Speaker 3: know where we're going. Yeah, you got to appreciate it.
[56:36] Speaker 1: No, seriously.
[56:36] Speaker 8: You got away last year. The year before that, you
[56:38] Speaker 8: got away. Keep getting away and stay.
[56:43] Speaker 1: Away.
[56:43] Speaker 3: Unnecessary.
[56:44] Speaker 1: But wishing Bradley Bill a speedy recovery and all the best.
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[57:27] Speaker 1: let's move on to some more positive situations. We'll start
[57:31] Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. Pistons are less than two years
[57:35] Speaker 1: removed from setting the NBA single-season record with 28 straight losses.
[57:40] Speaker 1: But Cade Cunningham has the Motor City moving in the
[57:42] Speaker 1: right direction. Cunningham was recently named Eastern Conference Player of
[57:45] Speaker 1: the Week, second time winning the award. Follow that up
[57:48] Speaker 1: by joining some elite company in the Pistons' overtime win
[57:51] Speaker 1: against the Wizards Monday night. Let's look at the highlights, please.
[57:54] Speaker 1: So Cunningham came through with his 12th career triple-double, stuffing
[57:58] Speaker 1: the stat sheet with 46 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assists,
[58:01] Speaker 1: five steals, and two blocks. But he was 14 of
[58:05] Speaker 1: 45 from the field. Detroit was on the second night
[58:08] Speaker 1: of a back-to-back, missing three starters and a few more
[58:11] Speaker 1: key rotation players in the game, which explains all those
[58:14] Speaker 1: extra shots he had to take, putting the team on
[58:15] Speaker 1: his back. 31 missed shots, passes Kobe's previous modern NBA
[58:20] Speaker 1: record of 30. He said in a game back in 2002,
[58:23] Speaker 1: We also got to shout out CJ McCollum. We have
[58:24] Speaker 1: 42 points in the game for the Wizards. With the win,
[58:27] Speaker 1: the Pistons improved to 9-2 this season and are atop
[58:30] Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference past November 1st for the first time
[58:33] Speaker 1: since 2007. Let's look at what this man is doing
[58:38] Speaker 1: out here. Changing the culture in Detroit. Shout out to
[58:41] Speaker 1: JB Bickerstaff as well. That's the team. Made some noise
[58:46] Speaker 1: last season. We have some big things, big expectations, obviously,
[58:50] Speaker 1: in a weaker Eastern Conference this season. But Kay Cunningham
[58:54] Speaker 1: is doing his thing, man. Can I ask you a question? No.
[58:59] Speaker 1: I ask the questions on this couch. What's your question?
[59:02] Speaker 1: I was wondering, why did you have to say his stat?
[59:07] Speaker 1: Because he took 45 shots. Who took some?
[59:10] Speaker 3: Okay.
[59:11] Speaker 2: I don't get what was the point of that. How
[59:13] Speaker 2: many points did he have?
[59:14] Speaker 1: He had 46.
[59:15] Speaker 3: Why can't you just leave with that? What does the
[59:18] Speaker 3: 45 shots have to do?
[59:19] Speaker 1: Did he win?
[59:20] Speaker 2: That was a lot of shots.
[59:21] Speaker 1: He won, right? I also gave the context that they
[59:23] Speaker 1: were missing a bunch of players. You don't need that negative.
[59:25] Speaker 1: That's not a negative to me. They on a seven-game
[59:30] Speaker 1: winning streak. Taking 45 shots is a beautiful thing.
[59:33] Speaker 3: Sometimes if he got to take 50 shots to get
[59:36] Speaker 3: the win, he got to do it. They won, which
[59:40] Speaker 3: means it's irrelevant on what the percentage was. Because they
[59:46] Speaker 3: 7-0 in their last seven games.
[59:49] Speaker 2: So you see how I made that?
[59:50] Speaker 3: They 7-0 in their last seven games.
[59:53] Speaker 1: I felt like I was very positive. He got like six,
[59:55] Speaker 1: seven triple-doubles. I was very positive in communicating that information.
[59:59] Speaker 1: He had 46! Very positive in communicating that information.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: He had 46! That's not, you know what I mean?
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: Second night of a back-to-back, down three starter, down key
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: rotational player.
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: It's amazing to even take.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: To take 45 shots, though, is a beautiful thing. That's
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: not a bad thing. In this economy.
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:00:13] Speaker 3: 45 shots is not a bad thing for... I mean,
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: they struggled.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: I mean, no.
[1:00:18] Speaker 3: Look at this team. But they'd be like, yo, you
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: got 45 shots.
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: How much is that?
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: You'd be like, 46.
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: What does everybody do? That's what I thought. Just chuck it, huh?
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Had to put the team on
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: his back, ladies and gentlemen. Like, you take 45 shots. No, he. No,
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: don't look like that. He took enough shots to have
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: 120 points, man. And he don't do that.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: He don't look selfish. He do not look selfish. But
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: I like the fact that we know that he can.
[1:00:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. For them, because they struggle offensively, so. Yeah.
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: What? Let me. Let's talk about the positive. Like you mentioned, 9-2,
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: first in the Eastern Conference. So after the Pistons win
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: over the Sixers Sunday, Cunningham was asked why he never
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: lost faith in the franchise and had this to say.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: More than anything, my faith in myself.
[1:01:02] Speaker 9: Knowing that I was going to be successful in the NBA,
[1:01:05] Speaker 9: knowing that I was going to do everything it took
[1:01:07] Speaker 9: to be successful. And I got lucky and fell into
[1:01:11] Speaker 9: a franchise in the city that has the same mentality
[1:01:14] Speaker 9: that I felt like it took for me to take
[1:01:16] Speaker 9: the next step. So it's been a hell of a ride, man.
[1:01:20] Speaker 9: It's been a lot of ups and downs. It's still early, though.
[1:01:23] Speaker 9: So I'm not above myself because we're 8-2. I think
[1:01:27] Speaker 9: this is something that we all wanted, but we weren't.
[1:01:31] Speaker 9: something bigger than this. We just want to keep our
[1:01:33] Speaker 9: heads down and keep working.
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: Through the Pistons' first 11 games, Cade averaged 28 points,
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: 10 assists, 5 rebounds, 37 minutes per game, tied for
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: the third most in the NBA minutes per game, made
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: his first all-star all-NBA team last season. Cade Cunningham solidifying
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: himself as a superstar in this league. Rising. Star. Rising.
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: At the moment.
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: Star, for sure.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: The trajectory, though. Star, for sure. And now you're being negative.
[1:02:01] Speaker 6: Making the All-NBA team last year, our first All-Star, he's
[1:02:04] Speaker 6: trending up. But to say superstar already is elite category
[1:02:11] Speaker 6: in this NBA, but he's rising and he's making a
[1:02:14] Speaker 6: name for himself to be in that category.
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:02:17] Speaker 6: Continuing this trajectory of growth.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: Within this game.
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
[1:02:24] Speaker 1: NBA's tailor-made for him, his size, his position. Yeah, yeah.
[1:02:27] Speaker 6: He's a cheat code. Yeah, he is athletic. He does
[1:02:31] Speaker 6: all the things that Luka can do with athleticism.
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:02:35] Speaker 6: So he out there windmilling that thing in the game.
[1:02:39] Speaker 6: So he's doing things at that position. And, yeah, he
[1:02:43] Speaker 6: playing in the city that's going to ride with him,
[1:02:45] Speaker 6: ride for him.
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: Yeah. Detroit basketball, baby. Detroit basketball. The way he plays,
[1:02:54] Speaker 1: if they keep tweaking.
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: The roster for his talent, that is the type of
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: team that two years from now, they're going to be like, yo,
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: they're kind of favorite. They might come out of the East.
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:03:09] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:03:09] Speaker 6: Yeah, because the defense they play. This start right here
[1:03:12] Speaker 6: can help them. The East is down this year. No,
[1:03:14] Speaker 6: but the East is down this year.
[1:03:15] Speaker 2: Oh, you mean get there this year. You know what
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: I'm saying?
[1:03:17] Speaker 6: The East is down. I ain't saying winning, but the
[1:03:18] Speaker 6: East is down this year. Get off to a hot start, 9-2.
[1:03:23] Speaker 6: You take this shit into December, you still single-digit losses.
[1:03:30] Speaker 6: Heading into the new year, hey, man, that's a scary
[1:03:33] Speaker 6: young team because they don't know no better. And they
[1:03:35] Speaker 6: got a coach over there that's put a battery in
[1:03:38] Speaker 6: their back. And he not accept anything less than play hard, defend,
[1:03:43] Speaker 6: and fuck your opponent.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: Yep. And....
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: No, dare that.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: Like, dare that.
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: Like, that's the way they playing. That's the way they
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: approaching it.
[1:03:51] Speaker 6: And between him, Durant at the five, listen, they got
[1:03:54] Speaker 6: a great chemistry, and he is fucking playing great right now.
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: And you bring Stewart off the bench.
[1:03:59] Speaker 2: I think they got a good mix, man, of.
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like Detroit. You know what's so funny?
[1:04:06] Speaker 3: We've seen it in real time. We've seen it with
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: Monte Williams, right? They lost how many in a row?
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: 28 straight games. They lost 28 straight games. But how
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: they lost.
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: A lot of close games. You know what I mean?
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: They lost a whole lot of close games, whistles, bad passes.
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: So it wasn't like they was getting blown out. It
[1:04:26] Speaker 3: was like, damn, you're half of these is wins. Once
[1:04:28] Speaker 3: they start getting older, we're like, they're going to win.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: Some of these.
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: No, no, you know the difference? the coach now, he
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: used four-letter words.
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:04:37] Speaker 6: I told y'all this.
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: Like love? That could be one of them.
[1:04:43] Speaker 1: After the game.
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: Poop?
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: But he used four-letter words.
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: Monty didn't. Right?
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: And like I said at the time, you got a
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: bunch of YNs over there.
[1:04:54] Speaker 6: That four letter words are some of the only thing
[1:04:58] Speaker 6: they understand, man. Like, you gotta cuss them out. I'm
[1:05:03] Speaker 6: not asking you, no. Them, you gotta talk crazy to.
[1:05:06] Speaker 6: That's the only thing gonna register to them. The way
[1:05:09] Speaker 6: he is, and they understand.
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: That, right?
[1:05:11] Speaker 6: We can't do that shit we was doing, like, no.
[1:05:14] Speaker 6: We lose one in a row, we lose two in
[1:05:16] Speaker 6: a row, he come in and he gonna lose his shit.
[1:05:19] Speaker 6: He keeping it honest with us. Letting us play freely,
[1:05:23] Speaker 6: but he's holding us accountable. And like I said, some
[1:05:27] Speaker 6: four-letter words within them timeouts and the messages and locker
[1:05:31] Speaker 6: room talks, trust me.
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: As players, were those four-letter words important for you guys
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: to help? Not poopy head. Not poop. I mean, it
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: is a four-letter word, but the F word.
[1:05:39] Speaker 3: Hey, poopy head, you need to get on the floor
[1:05:41] Speaker 3: and die.
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: Monte Williams might have said fudge. Yes. Mother fudge.
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: Darn it. Man, that type, no, listen, no. Darn it
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: for a little, no, I'm just kidding.
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: Can you imagine your coach getting mad at you and cussing?
[1:05:53] Speaker 1: Darn it, darn it.
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: How can you listen? Dead ass though, right?
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: Freaking guy.
[1:05:57] Speaker 6: We look at, in the NBA, right? Most of us
[1:06:00] Speaker 6: went to college and some of us played for guys.
[1:06:02] Speaker 6: But I'm pretty sure high school coach was saying, listen,
[1:06:05] Speaker 6: the college, I tell people all the time, man, the
[1:06:07] Speaker 6: man I played for, we was everything except a nigga
[1:06:10] Speaker 6: and a child of God, dog.
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: Everything in between.
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: So he never called you either of those two? No.
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: Child of God or a nigga.
[1:06:18] Speaker 6: So everything in between was fair game with this man.
[1:06:23] Speaker 6: So then you get to the league and I.
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: Wish I'd like... No.
[1:06:28] Speaker 6: You can't... We lose and we down. Possessions ain't going
[1:06:31] Speaker 6: our way. Our coach looking at us the way our
[1:06:33] Speaker 6: body language is. We not playing hard. We not doing it.
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: We not rebounding the ball right there. You didn't box out.
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: Man was open. You... Shot the bit, like, no, address it.
[1:06:43] Speaker 6: But you can't go in there, please, y'all, pass, please, no,
[1:06:47] Speaker 6: please don't work in the NBA. Please don't work in
[1:06:51] Speaker 6: professional sports. If you want to be successful, please don't work.
[1:06:57] Speaker 6: Thank you, yeah, please don't work.
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: About time.
[1:07:01] Speaker 6: Those, like, sarcasm, asshole, four-letter words, working, winning, and being
[1:07:07] Speaker 6: competitive in sports. Certain guys don't make it in that position, man. Like,
[1:07:14] Speaker 6: going there, you let one slip, and you're in the
[1:07:16] Speaker 6: back praying. Like, no, listen, get the dude out of here.
[1:07:19] Speaker 6: Get the dude out of here.
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: Like, you didn't say, damn, now you think you got
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: to go pray. Like, no, that's not going to happen.
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: Listen, no.
[1:07:26] Speaker 6: But I have nothing against religion, nothing against– I used
[1:07:30] Speaker 6: to wonder how dudes used to go to chapel before
[1:07:33] Speaker 6: the game. I've always wondered that, man.
[1:07:36] Speaker 3: You know, isn't that?
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: Do you think I went to chapel before the game, Nick?
[1:07:41] Speaker 3: Man, no wonder.
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: Exactly. I went to chapel before the game.
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: I'm thinking about something totally different, man. I'm saying some
[1:07:48] Speaker 3: dudes did. I just, I said I didn't understand how
[1:07:51] Speaker 3: I could be in that mind state and then flip
[1:07:55] Speaker 3: it to go out. Because you know the way I
[1:07:58] Speaker 3: played or how I am. And I black out when
[1:08:00] Speaker 3: I'm on the floor. So it's... It's good for some dudes.
[1:08:03] Speaker 6: I'm not saying, yeah, but for me, I'm just, we're
[1:08:06] Speaker 6: in the weight room lifting and y'all over there, John 316, so.
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, in the weight room? I'm saying some
[1:08:15] Speaker 3: dudes play, some dudes have chapel in the weight room.
[1:08:19] Speaker 6: Oh shit, they didn't have a separate thing, right? Locker room. Right,
[1:08:24] Speaker 6: they'd be in the weight room having chapel and you
[1:08:25] Speaker 6: over there trying to, N * * * a.
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: Turned up, bub.
[1:08:28] Speaker 3: Damn, I can't, yeah.
[1:08:29] Speaker 6: Because Lord knows what I'm listening to in my headphones
[1:08:32] Speaker 6: while they got Chapel going on.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: It's like... Nah, it feel like he's right.
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. That's when y'all came in
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: the NBA.
[1:08:43] Speaker 3: They had a different room.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Before it was like they'd try like a weight room
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: or something like that.
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: Everybody wasn't lifting. Certain dudes lifted, everybody didn't. But you're
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: going there.
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: So then, you know, like weight rooms was open before
[1:08:54] Speaker 3: the game. And then now you got somebody in there.
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: Listening to this shit.
[1:08:57] Speaker 3: Now he mad.
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: Or they come in there and be like, hey, we
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: got chapel in. we got chapel in.
[1:09:01] Speaker 3: I'm like, nah.
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: I just, like, I get it. We have Bible study
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: after every episode of Gil's Arena. Never see any of
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: y'all there. Never see any of you at our Bible study.
[1:09:13] Speaker 3: I came on a veteran team, so obviously they used
[1:09:16] Speaker 3: to do that. And then my second year when I
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: was playing, Are you coming to chapel? I'm listening to Tupac.
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: Ambitions of a rider. That's why I have to go
[1:09:25] Speaker 1: to chapel. Ambitions of a rider. That's why I.
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: Have to go to chapel because of you. I'm skipping
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: over the prayer thing.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: I'm trying to get ready. You know, you're sitting.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: There all eyes on me like, yeah.
[1:09:42] Speaker 6: Once I turned my back and once the game was
[1:09:45] Speaker 6: getting close, I would turn my chair around and I'm
[1:09:48] Speaker 6: facing the locker. I'm facing the locker. I don't... What
[1:09:55] Speaker 6: else is going on didn't matter at that point. I'm so...
[1:09:58] Speaker 6: I didn't psych myself up so much. Mm-hmm. Ain't no
[1:10:04] Speaker 6: time to pray.
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: It's not.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: But you got to be ready for the Raptors.
[1:10:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, but back to Kate. Make sure you follow what's said.
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: Oh, my bad. No, no, no.
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: This is why we love this show, because we can
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: go on tangents and come right back to where we started.
[1:10:15] Speaker 7: I just think the way he's been playing, I think
[1:10:17] Speaker 7: he is the future point guard for the USA team
[1:10:20] Speaker 7: in 2028.
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:10:21] Speaker 7: I think the pace he keeps going, just his style
[1:10:25] Speaker 7: of play.
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: I mean, he's averaging, what'd you say, like 27?
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: 28, yep.
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: Right now.
[1:10:29] Speaker 7: And he has to take a lot of load on
[1:10:30] Speaker 7: the team because offensively they they struggle a little bit defensively.
[1:10:34] Speaker 7: I mean, they remind me of Houston Rockets last year,
[1:10:36] Speaker 7: but just with the number one option this year to
[1:10:38] Speaker 7: me defensively and everything.
[1:10:40] Speaker 1: So I'm excited for Detroit. I was a little worried
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: in the beginning.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: They started off a little sluggish, but it was able
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: to turn the table. And I don't mind the 46
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: shots from Cade.
[1:10:50] Speaker 2: Not at all.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: I just had to point it out. I read stats.
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: I mentioned important pertinent numbers that are topical, timely.
[1:10:54] Speaker 3: And storyline.
[1:10:55] Speaker 4: He don't do this all the time.
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: He had to put the team on his back. Second
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: night of a back-to-back. Six players.
[1:11:03] Speaker 2: He had 11 assists in this effort as well.
[1:11:05] Speaker 6: Guys that shoot that much and have that many points,
[1:11:08] Speaker 6: they don't have that kind of assist number. So he's
[1:11:13] Speaker 6: going to average 10, 11 assists with his 27. He's
[1:11:16] Speaker 6: going to second team all NBA.
[1:11:19] Speaker 1: So you also mentioned Jalen Dern. So we got to
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: give some love to the fourth-year big man. Who? Jalen Dern.
[1:11:23] Speaker 2: In the midst of a career year, Dern putting up
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: a career high, 19 points, 12 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, and
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: 1.1 steals per game.
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: Cunningham and Durant each have seven double-doubles this season, which
[1:11:36] Speaker 1: is the most by any duo in the league right now.
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: Both tied for third most in the league. Pistons have
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: the fourth best defensive league, sixth best net rating so
[1:11:44] Speaker 1: far this season. Y'all have faith in this Pistons squad.
[1:11:48] Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the Bulls recently. They've kind
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: of suffered some losses, but this is now first. They
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: built different.
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: They don't know no better.
[1:11:54] Speaker 1: They've been losing.
[1:11:55] Speaker 3: We saw it last year.
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: Listen, they lost 28 games.
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: A lot of them dudes.
[1:11:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost 28 games.
[1:11:59] Speaker 2: A lot of them dudes was there for that. All
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: of them.
[1:12:01] Speaker 6: Damn, all them dudes was there for that. The only one,
[1:12:04] Speaker 6: Timmy gone. But for the most part, a lot of
[1:12:10] Speaker 6: them dudes, they suffered those losses. So they've been through
[1:12:13] Speaker 6: the fire already, right? Yeah, they... Hey, they gonna be...
[1:12:22] Speaker 6: They gonna be.
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: Everything come back to the cap.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: When is Tobias up?
[1:12:27] Speaker 3: Because that's a lot of money that's coming off that
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: cap that They can go. They add someone that they
[1:12:35] Speaker 3: can use.
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: At that position? Three?
[1:12:38] Speaker 2: Three.
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: The final year of his deal, making $ 26 million this year.
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: This year? Yep.
[1:12:43] Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: Final year of his deal.
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: Pistons only have, I think, what, $ 105 million committed? Yeah.
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: Next year in salaries. Yeah, they can go get somebody.
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: The Pistons are good.
[1:12:51] Speaker 3: So with them, it's basically....
[1:12:54] Speaker 2: No impulsive decisions. No, wait.
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: Look at what you have.
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: Look at what... How far you make it.
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: Is necessary for your team's success. Mm-hmm.
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:13:03] Speaker 3: Don't do the James Harden and you get a baka
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: and then you realize, oh, shit, we don't... Don't do that.
[1:13:09] Speaker 2: You see what the core is first.
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: Then you put pieces around them.
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: So Jalen Dern, I think Ivy are eligible for extensions.
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: They've been hard. They played Detroit basketball. They played Detroit basketball.
[1:13:23] Speaker 1: They do. It's rugged.
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: It's hard, man. It's real rugged and tough.
[1:13:27] Speaker 1: It's like no more going into Detroit.
[1:13:29] Speaker 8: Last year with the playoffs against New York, you see
[1:13:31] Speaker 8: how hard they played.
[1:13:32] Speaker 6: They gave Detroit a run. They gave Knicks a run
[1:13:35] Speaker 6: for their goddamn money. Just a piece or two away, bro.
[1:13:39] Speaker 6: That confidence coming into this season, man. Shout out to
[1:13:42] Speaker 6: one of our favorite cities, Detroit. Nothing but love for
[1:13:45] Speaker 6: the city of Detroit. Don't start it again, all right?
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: We're good.
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: One of our.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: We have a list. They would be in there somewhere.
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: I mean, they'd be in a list of cities. I mean,
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Top 28 NBA city. Sounds better. Sounds better.
[1:14:03] Speaker 3: It's not the worst. I'm not trying to.
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: Look.
[1:14:07] Speaker 3: I'm talking about just like I've never went out. I
[1:14:11] Speaker 3: don't I've never went out.
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: You don't want to go out there. What?
[1:14:13] Speaker 3: Detroit?
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: Detroit cracking. Beautiful.
[1:14:15] Speaker 2: I'm guessing when we got there in town.
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: I've never went out there.
[1:14:17] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: Memphis, Minnesota, Milwaukee.
[1:14:20] Speaker 2: I went to some places when I was playing. I
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: had no business being in Detroit.
[1:14:23] Speaker 7: Because we stayed in Arbyn Hills, right? You guys stayed
[1:14:25] Speaker 7: back there, right?
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: Yeah. So it was.
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Birmingham.
[1:14:30] Speaker 3: Yeah. Birmingham was nice.
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: Birmingham was nice.
[1:14:32] Speaker 1: I know.
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: But Detroit.
[1:14:33] Speaker 1: Detroit.
[1:14:34] Speaker 3: You went out?
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: Yes, in Birmingham, yes. There was a lot of bars
[1:14:37] Speaker 1: and shit around. Yeah, Churchill's.
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: They got a cigar lounge.
[1:14:41] Speaker 1: Jay Alexander's restaurant. They got a bunch of shit. The
[1:14:44] Speaker 1: Ball Somerset Mall. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: I got out of venture.
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You was in New Jersey, so anything outside
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: of New Jersey looked great. No, I wasn't in New Jersey.
[1:14:54] Speaker 3: You was in Milwaukee. Anything outside of Milwaukee was goddamn lucky. No,
[1:14:58] Speaker 3: Boston was nice, though. What were we were we talking
[1:15:01] Speaker 3: about around? I was going to be You guys say
[1:15:02] Speaker 3: that the nice area is I didn't come down I know.
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: That yeah, I know but I'm just saying where you
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: were at.
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: I didn't know Toronto was popping. Yeah, I'm not crazy
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: We're just one way in and one way out of Detroit.
[1:15:10] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I don't wanna feel in them spots. Yeah Yeah.
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: All right, well, beans and.
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: Cornbread up in Detroit. What's nice, though?
[1:15:31] Speaker 6: Like, the mall was cool, nice restaurants over there.
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: They had an Ocean Prime over there, a J.L.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: Alexander there. That's what it was.
[1:15:40] Speaker 3: I told you to come to KOD.
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: It was this time of year where it get dark early,
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: get them up, and you.
[1:15:44] Speaker 6: Get there, and as soon as you get in the room,
[1:15:46] Speaker 6: it's dark.
[1:15:46] Speaker 1: You're like.
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: Fuck, it's late as shit already. You look up, it's 6.30.
[1:15:49] Speaker 3: I tried to invite you to the strip club, bro,
[1:15:50] Speaker 3: in Detroit.
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: Oh, I did.
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: I did.
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: I did. You tried to invite me to the strip club.
[1:15:54] Speaker 3: I did. Me and Sheed in here, you're good.
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: Support the local community.
[1:15:57] Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
[1:15:59] Speaker 5: KOD.
[1:16:00] Speaker 7: One of them strip clubs out there, she'd have that
[1:16:03] Speaker 7: big-ass LeVore 3X.
[1:16:05] Speaker 3: Milwaukee, Memphis. I never left that hotel.
[1:16:09] Speaker 6: I was in some undesirable places there, too. Memphis, New Orleans, Detroit. Yeah,
[1:16:14] Speaker 6: I found all the holes in the wall. Just don't
[1:16:17] Speaker 6: wear Cartier frames in Detroit. They're going to take them.
[1:16:19] Speaker 6: They're going to take them. Give me all of them.
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: They were permanently borrowed, but let's shift this thing over
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: to the Western Conference.
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, you wear plain shit.
[1:16:26] Speaker 6: You don't wear nothing out when you go to them places. Nigga,
[1:16:29] Speaker 6: you want to fly? Nigga, you got all the jewelry
[1:16:31] Speaker 6: in the world. Nigga, leave that shit in the room
[1:16:33] Speaker 6: when you go to them places. Team logo.
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: No, nowhere. I said it earlier, right?
[1:16:40] Speaker 6: No, you weren't allowed to go nowhere with me, man.
[1:16:43] Speaker 6: If you wore team gear outside of team functions.
[1:16:46] Speaker 4: If you stopped me in Detroit and said, man, you
[1:16:48] Speaker 4: can't come to me with that shit.
[1:16:49] Speaker 3: If it's not a team function.
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: I'm like, for real?
[1:16:51] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:16:52] Speaker 4: I can't come?
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: No.
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: All right, man.
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: If it's not a sanctioned team function.
[1:16:57] Speaker 6: All right, listen. Sanctioned team functions. Team gear all day.
[1:17:02] Speaker 6: We get to the city and we come down. You
[1:17:03] Speaker 6: ain't got no coat and you come down and your team. No,
[1:17:06] Speaker 6: you can't go with me, dog. We already walking in.
[1:17:09] Speaker 6: We bigger than everybody in the place as is.
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: Hey, man.
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: They need to know, man.
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: Everybody walking in.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: It be 6'5, 6'6, 6'7, 7'2.
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: He might ain't got no clothes. He got to stay
[1:17:18] Speaker 3: that fit for tomorrow.
[1:17:19] Speaker 1: Room service. Yeah. You won't go with me. You can
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: be in the same restaurant, but you ain't sitting at
[1:17:25] Speaker 1: my table, Team Gerald.
[1:17:26] Speaker 4: Detroit, I'd be happy, man. He ain't say I couldn't come, y'all.
[1:17:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:17:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, you got on 10 gear.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: Go back to my room. And back then you had
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: to catch a cab, man. Oh, yeah, it was a cab.
[1:17:40] Speaker 6: So when you come downstairs, the thing is, he would
[1:17:42] Speaker 6: have never made it because he always late. You know,
[1:17:46] Speaker 6: I wasn't waiting on it. See, the thing, it ain't
[1:17:48] Speaker 6: just started. I ain't waiting on motherfuckers. We say we're
[1:17:51] Speaker 6: leaving the hotel at what time dinner? We say 6.30.
[1:17:53] Speaker 6: We're leaving at 6. I'm fucking leaving at 6. Come
[1:17:58] Speaker 6: down at motherfucking 6.05. Like, yeah, you know what? Okay, well,
[1:18:02] Speaker 6: you're in the restaurant already, dog. I can attest to that.
[1:18:07] Speaker 3: Okay, we'll dip on you.
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: I will leave you. Absolutely. But let's shift over to
[1:18:12] Speaker 1: the Western Conference. After becoming the first senator to average
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: a triple-double and finish his second MVP voting, Nikola Jokic
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: picking up right where he left off this season. Jokers
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: messed around and dropped a triple-double in six of the Nuggets'
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: first nine games this season.
[1:18:28] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, he has.
[1:18:30] Speaker 1: He didn't have a triple-double in the Nuggets' win against
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: the Kings Tuesday night, but did have 35 points, 15 boards,
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: and 7 dimes while shooting an impressive 16 for 19
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: from the field. Yeah, he's out here doing his thing. Oh, Lord.
[1:18:49] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Easy killer.
[1:18:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:18:53] Speaker 3: Who was that?
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: This was a good game. Shout out to NBC Coast
[1:18:56] Speaker 1: to Coast. Game started at 8 p.m. Pacific time, 11 p.m.
[1:19:00] Speaker 3: Eastern.
[1:19:01] Speaker 2: Bad defense.
[1:19:02] Speaker 3: That was great.
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: But it was worth it. Kings.
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: Kings suck.
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: But they were competitive most of the game.
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: Fuck that.
[1:19:09] Speaker 6: I picked them sorry son of a bitch to make
[1:19:10] Speaker 6: the playoffs and all that shit.
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: They're so disappointed, man. They are disappointed. Let's talk about Nicole.
[1:19:14] Speaker 2: Never mind.
[1:19:15] Speaker 3: What time was that?
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: 8 p.m. Pacific.
[1:19:18] Speaker 3: 8 p.m. 8 p.m. Pacific, our time. 11 o'clock.
[1:19:21] Speaker 1: They could have put that bitch on that 10. Nobody
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: was watching them two teams. I've watched the entire game.
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: It was an exciting game. Nobody watched it. You sound
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: like the last game of Christmas. I'm glad that I
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: didn't play Kings.
[1:19:33] Speaker 2: Why would they put that game?
[1:19:34] Speaker 1: It's always the Suns and the Nuggets or something.
[1:19:37] Speaker 3: People are drunk.
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: Kings are competitive for most of the game. Four and
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: a third kids been on that. Shout-out Russell Westbrook, Nick
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: Clifford out here doing his thing.
[1:19:45] Speaker 3: He has to run your rookie.
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: Nick Clifford, a fan of Bill Green.
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: Present him under our woo-woo. Russell Westbrook playing against his
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: old team, man. That was the selling point. The team
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: that told him to not take his player option.
[1:19:57] Speaker 2: That's wild, too.
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: He obliged.
[1:19:59] Speaker 2: That was the selling point.
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: But back to Joker. After Denver's win over the Pacers
[1:20:03] Speaker 1: Saturday in which Jokers dropped 32-14-14 while shooting 71% from
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: the field, Nuggets head coach David Ottoman had high praise
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: for the three-time MVP.
[1:20:13] Speaker 3: He's the most efficient basketball player I've ever seen.
[1:20:15] Speaker 10: And I know there's guys way back in the past
[1:20:17] Speaker 10: I didn't get to see play. But for me in
[1:20:20] Speaker 10: this modern generation of basketball, please show me who else
[1:20:24] Speaker 10: is out there that plays like this at this efficient
[1:20:27] Speaker 10: level offensively.
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: It's a joy to watch.
[1:20:30] Speaker 10: And, by the way, I did all that in 31 minutes.
[1:20:33] Speaker 10: So the guy is, I'll keep saying it, just enjoy
[1:20:36] Speaker 10: this while you get to have it.
[1:20:39] Speaker 3: Some coaches, that fam guy. That's fair.
[1:20:42] Speaker 2: He doesn't like to open his mouth.
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: He's been around the game for a while. Yeah, he's
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: been around for a long time. So far this season,
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: Joker averaging 26.13 rebounds, league-high 11.4 assists on 67-36-85 shooting splits.
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: He has a true shooting percentage of 74.8, and his
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: combined points and points from assists is 54 per game,
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: which is nearly half of the Nuggets' 124 points per
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: game this season. So is Adam Trippin or Spittin saying
[1:21:10] Speaker 1: Jokic is the most efficient basketball player he's ever seen?
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: Because he, Trippin, Spittin.
[1:21:17] Speaker 2: Not Trippin at all. No Trippin. Walking straight.
[1:21:21] Speaker 6: So his dad coached Sacramento, if I'm not mistaken. And
[1:21:24] Speaker 6: the Blazers back in the day. And the Blazers, right.
[1:21:27] Speaker 6: So he's seen a lot of basketball. Been around the
[1:21:29] Speaker 6: game for a long time. Dad coached Chris Webber.
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: Oh, that's Adam?
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:21:38] Speaker 1: Oh.
[1:21:38] Speaker 6: So Chris Webber is the modern-day Nikola Jokic. And he
[1:21:45] Speaker 6: had Vlade Divac on that team as well, who was
[1:21:47] Speaker 6: a hell of a passer. So for him to have
[1:21:51] Speaker 6: that kind of praise for Nikola when he's seen those
[1:21:53] Speaker 6: two guys up close at their– Chris Webber was at
[1:21:56] Speaker 6: his peak.
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: Speaks volumes, man.
[1:22:00] Speaker 6: We all think– well, I thought Nikola should have won
[1:22:06] Speaker 6: MVP last year as well.
[1:22:07] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:22:08] Speaker 6: The year before, I think that's when they messed it up.
[1:22:10] Speaker 6: But I thought he should have been MVP last year.
[1:22:13] Speaker 6: And for him to piggyback on that triple-double and having
[1:22:16] Speaker 6: a better season this year so far. Lining up for
[1:22:23] Speaker 6: another MVP season. Scoring down, but the assists are up.
[1:22:27] Speaker 1: The efficiency is at record levels based on volume.
[1:22:30] Speaker 2: And it's contagious, man. They're averaging 30.5 assists as a team.
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: It's contagious.
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: So.
[1:22:38] Speaker 2: To have your best player, a willing passer, man. And
[1:22:42] Speaker 2: I love watching him play, so.
[1:22:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, I mean, he's just incredible.
[1:22:47] Speaker 7: Every year, like Kenya said, he just keeps getting better
[1:22:49] Speaker 7: and better. I mean, to me, you know, long as
[1:22:53] Speaker 7: he's out there, you know, they was able to add
[1:22:54] Speaker 7: some more big bodies to coming off the bench this year.
[1:22:57] Speaker 3: Last year, they took OKC to seven.
[1:22:59] Speaker 7: So, you know, if Jokic keeps playing like this, I mean,
[1:23:02] Speaker 7: anybody in the West, I mean, you know, is a
[1:23:05] Speaker 7: big threat.
[1:23:05] Speaker 1: It would be Denver to me. Yeah.
[1:23:08] Speaker 7: Because, I mean, it's just incredible, man, just the fact
[1:23:11] Speaker 7: that he can– the things that he can do on
[1:23:13] Speaker 7: the court, pass the ball, dribble, make defenses.
[1:23:16] Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen a big like this ever.
[1:23:17] Speaker 3: So, to me, he's the greatest big ever in this generation.
[1:23:21] Speaker 6: And you speak of big lineups, right? I just thought
[1:23:24] Speaker 6: about it when you were talking about the depth and.
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: Size, right?
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:23:28] Speaker 6: You can play Nicola at the four and put Valantrunis
[1:23:31] Speaker 6: at the five and play Aaron Gordon at the three
[1:23:33] Speaker 6: and Perry Washington at the two. and put Jamal Murray
[1:23:37] Speaker 6: at the point, and good luck. But, yeah, you can
[1:23:40] Speaker 6: play him and Valatunas together, which is crazy.
[1:23:46] Speaker 7: And they're under the radar, too. That's the thing about Denver. Like,
[1:23:48] Speaker 7: they're going to stay right there in that three, like three-two,
[1:23:52] Speaker 7: like whatever. But, I mean, to me, the biggest threat
[1:23:57] Speaker 7: is Denver and Lakers right now.
[1:24:00] Speaker 4: It's going to be the same. They do the same
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: thing every year.
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: Who? Denver.
[1:24:05] Speaker 3: It's going to be the same thing over and over.
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: The same thing every year?
[1:24:09] Speaker 3: Same thing.
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: Joker's going to look like Joker all year.
[1:24:12] Speaker 8: They're going to stay from three, two to four from
[1:24:16] Speaker 8: the same results.
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: What's going to be the same result? Took the Thunder
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: to seven games. They got a championship. They tough to play.
[1:24:25] Speaker 6: They act like they get to the first round and
[1:24:27] Speaker 6: lose every year like Minnesota used to.
[1:24:29] Speaker 2: No, they got a championship. They do have a championship.
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: You know that, right?
[1:24:35] Speaker 6: It ain't no get to do the same thing over
[1:24:38] Speaker 6: and over. They have success. People thought Oklahoma City was
[1:24:43] Speaker 6: head and shoulders better than them last year. They took
[1:24:45] Speaker 6: them boys to seven. That they did. That was lost.
[1:24:51] Speaker 6: People thought Oklahoma City was going to walk through them.
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: Nah, everybody.
[1:24:55] Speaker 8: The masses thought Oklahoma City was way better.
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: I thought OKC was too young last year. I didn't
[1:25:02] Speaker 1: think they was going to win, so I thought they.
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: Were definitely going to get them. Most, y'all get you, but.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: Masses, but they held.
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, no, the masses won. 22, 23.
[1:25:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, they just, yeah, you act like they.
[1:25:15] Speaker 1: Two years ago, Nick, like this.
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: It was three last year, three the year before that.
[1:25:22] Speaker 1: One, three.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, they, yeah, they, They consistent. No, no, there was
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: three last year, champions here.
[1:25:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: No. I think they finished tied for third, but there
[1:25:32] Speaker 1: was a tiebreaker. Lakers got the overall receipt.
[1:25:34] Speaker 6: But they're a tough out.
[1:25:36] Speaker 3: I remember that one.
[1:25:37] Speaker 6: Good luck playing them in the playoffs because the game
[1:25:40] Speaker 6: is a half-court game, and they have top three half-court basketball.
[1:25:46] Speaker 3: Players we've seen. They got three guys averaging 22 right now.
[1:25:50] Speaker 1: Like I said, Nuggets currently 8-2. Tied with the Spurs
[1:25:53] Speaker 1: for the second best record in the West.
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: What's the next topic?
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: What's the name of the guy that got his bounce back, too?
[1:25:56] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:25:58] Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon got his bounce back. You don't like your own?
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: With 360 live.
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: Picking up what you said. Cam Johnson and them off
[1:26:04] Speaker 3: the bat. Yeah.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway.
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Jr. You're not a fan of the Denver Nuggets?
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: Cam Johnson.
[1:26:09] Speaker 2: Three spread the floor.
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: A fine basketball team in Adam Silver's Western Conference?
[1:26:14] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: Are we just going to be honest? Are y'all going
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: to keep spewing this bullshit?
[1:26:20] Speaker 3: He's averaging what?
[1:26:20] Speaker 4: 26.
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: 13 and 11. 67, 36, 85. And what's their record?
[1:26:22] Speaker 2: 8 and 2.
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: All right. Who's in front of them? OKC. What's their record?
[1:26:26] Speaker 1: 10 and 1. Right behind them. Soon to be 11
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: and 2.
[1:26:42] Speaker 3: And they have not been in no motherfucking body's top
[1:26:44] Speaker 3: anything of topics.
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: Okay?
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: No one cares.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Like, I'm just going to be honest. Are we going
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: to just stop? They're not flying under the radar.
[1:26:53] Speaker 2: They are under the radar.
[1:26:54] Speaker 1: No one cares. No one cares what they're doing.
[1:26:59] Speaker 3: Has it not shown that you got two MVPs, candidates,
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: doing what they do every year. No one cares, all right?
[1:27:08] Speaker 3: Alston Reed scores 25. That's better than Jokic's triple-double. Who
[1:27:13] Speaker 3: gets the headlines then?
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: Whose headlines is.
[1:27:18] Speaker 5: Austin Reeves has been in the news more than both
[1:27:23] Speaker 5: of them combined because of the market.
[1:27:30] Speaker 2: We all talk about winning is amazing.
[1:27:31] Speaker 3: We want to talk about it, but it's never news
[1:27:34] Speaker 3: because the market is so small.
[1:27:37] Speaker 1: You said a whole bunch of players I didn't even know.
[1:27:40] Speaker 3: I was like, damn, he must watch the goddamn team.
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: I heard Valanchunas, Cam Johnson, Tim Hardaway Jr., Bruce Brown.
[1:27:49] Speaker 1: I know they got a whole bunch of people. Peyton Watson?
[1:27:51] Speaker 4: Who was that, the two?
[1:27:53] Speaker 2: He said somebody had the two.
[1:27:53] Speaker 1: I was like, ooh.
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: I saw who that was starting. They're going to put
[1:27:55] Speaker 2: Peyton Watson up.
[1:27:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And I'm just sitting here like, damn, they
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: got a nice-ass team and nobody. Keep flying under the radar.
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: We care here at Gills Arena about under the radar.
[1:28:04] Speaker 3: Win motherfucking 65 games and cool. Flying under the radar, MVP,
[1:28:10] Speaker 3: win 60, 65 games. That's what I'm saying. Flying under
[1:28:13] Speaker 3: the radar, cool. Think about Cade, right? Think about Giannis, right?
[1:28:19] Speaker 3: It's the winners and the people that are doing the
[1:28:25] Speaker 3: damage are in small cities, which makes it look like
[1:28:31] Speaker 3: Nobody watches the NBA because nobody's watching those teams.
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: Yo, a lot of people are watching the NBA. Viewership
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: is up, sir. Yeah, because all Reed's doing well. Jake LaRocca.
[1:28:52] Speaker 1: The American whites are excited.
[1:28:56] Speaker 3: The two MVPs are doing the same.
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: Thing they did last year. Even better.
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: And their team is doing better. And no one is nothing.
[1:29:06] Speaker 1: Perhaps they need a Lemon Daddy billboard throughout Los Angeles.
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: Flying on the radar, kicking ass, and taking names.
[1:29:13] Speaker 3: Imagine if it was in just a big city, dog.
[1:29:17] Speaker 1: We said that with Russ. If Russ was in L.A.
[1:29:20] Speaker 3: When he was averaging him triple doubles, God damn. You
[1:29:23] Speaker 3: know what I mean? If Jokic was in L.A. for
[1:29:27] Speaker 3: either team and he was averaging a triple double, man,
[1:29:33] Speaker 3: we'll be... Sometimes it's good to be under the radar.
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: As the chat has pointed out, NBA viewership went up
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: as soon as Gil's Arena came back. Draw the correlation,
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: if you will, just pointing it out. These numbers skyrocketed
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: once we came back on the airwaves.
[1:29:49] Speaker 3: Trouble-double.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: Nobody's here. We care.
[1:29:52] Speaker 1: That's why we're talking about it here. We're trying to
[1:29:53] Speaker 1: give something. Because I'm only going to watch it when
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: they play the Lakers. I'm going to just be real.
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: And OKC versus the Lakers tonight?
[1:29:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:30:00] Speaker 3: That's the first time I'm going to watch it. Oh, man,
[1:30:02] Speaker 3: this OKC is looking good.
[1:30:03] Speaker 1: No, you watch OKC first game.
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: They played Houston first game.
[1:30:08] Speaker 3: They played Houston first game. They weren't the best games.
[1:30:11] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I did.
[1:30:12] Speaker 3: I did. Because of KD. Tonight's going to be over, though.
[1:30:15] Speaker 1: But it had nothing to do with them being defeated.
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: KD in town.
[1:30:20] Speaker 3: All right, well.
[1:30:23] Speaker 8: They've been playing Golden State like two times already, right?
[1:30:27] Speaker 2: Oh, Denver had it?
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:30:28] Speaker 3: Didn't even know. That sucks, though. When you sit there
[1:30:36] Speaker 3: and think about it, you be like, damn. I'll pay
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: you in Denver right now. Y'all used to have better
[1:30:42] Speaker 3: viewership back in Denver back then. His years have been different.
[1:30:46] Speaker 3: They had way more better viewership. Oh yeah, they was
[1:30:49] Speaker 3: on ESPN.
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: They on ESPN too? They on ESPN. They be on there.
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: Just 845, 850.
[1:30:58] Speaker 3: 12 o'clock Eastern. Let's talk about some.
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[1:32:29] Speaker 1: there's been a lot of discussion about the NBA All-Star Game,
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[1:32:54] Speaker 1: Allegedly. I'm just saying that. Anywho, the NBA released their
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: plan for the 2026 All-Star Game, which will feature a
[1:33:06] Speaker 1: USA versus the world format. Here are the specifics for
[1:33:10] Speaker 1: the game. Mr. B, I hear you clapping. In approval,
[1:33:13] Speaker 1: there will be a three-team round-robin format with four 12-minute games.
[1:33:16] Speaker 1: The three teams will play each other once in the
[1:33:18] Speaker 1: round-robin mini tournament with the top two teams advancing to
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: the championship game. There will be two USA teams and
[1:33:24] Speaker 1: one world team with at least eight players per team
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: with 12 players from each conference selected without regard to position.
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: If NBA All-Star voting doesn't result in the selection of
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: 16 US players and eight international players, which can include
[1:33:38] Speaker 1: American players with ties to other countries if necessary, then
[1:33:41] Speaker 1: Adam Silver will pick additional All-Stars to join either group
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: to reach that minimum. In that case, at least one
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: team would have more than eight players. In the round-robin tournament,
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: Team A will play Team B in Game 1. The
[1:33:54] Speaker 1: winning team from Game 1 will take on Team C
[1:33:56] Speaker 1: in Game 2, followed by the losing team of Game
[1:33:58] Speaker 1: 1 meeting Team C in Game 3. I know that
[1:34:01] Speaker 1: was a lot to digest.
[1:34:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: I mean, could just throw on the East versus West jersey.
[1:34:06] Speaker 1: I was four until I heard all that.
[1:34:07] Speaker 3: So they're going to have a regular vote.
[1:34:11] Speaker 1: Regular vote. Hopefully we get 12 from each conference, regardless
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: of position. So let's say they only get six technically
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: international players. They'll add two more. Cap, for example, you
[1:34:21] Speaker 1: get the Dominican Republic. So would they take....
[1:34:25] Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, the island of Caucasus.
[1:34:27] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is would they take players from somebody
[1:34:31] Speaker 3: like Embiid or somebody like that that has.
[1:34:34] Speaker 1: You Cameroonian for this particular event.
[1:34:37] Speaker 2: So if Cap makes it, But they don't have enough
[1:34:40] Speaker 2: over there. They're going to move them over here?
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: They can move them over to that side.
[1:34:43] Speaker 3: That's not international. Okay. Now I'm getting it. Yeah.
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: Why is that not international? It's not, yeah. I'm more
[1:34:50] Speaker 1: of a visual.
[1:34:51] Speaker 7: Because the first five players for the international.
[1:34:54] Speaker 1: Austin Reeves plays for Germany. Austin Reeves plays for Germany?
[1:34:58] Speaker 1: He could play for Germany. He is from the fatherland.
[1:35:02] Speaker 1: So when he makes it, they may just shift him
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: over to the international team.
[1:35:05] Speaker 3: Oh. Okay, what is the purpose of this?
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: Because what I mean is.
[1:35:13] Speaker 3: If you have to then take Americans and then use
[1:35:17] Speaker 3: where their parents is from to add it to the
[1:35:20] Speaker 3: Euro side, this is not Euro versus. That's not what
[1:35:25] Speaker 3: this is, right? Anyway, if the Euro team don't make
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: it to the finals, you look stupid.
[1:35:36] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:35:36] Speaker 3: So now because what ends up happening, the Euro team
[1:35:40] Speaker 3: don't make it. Then you have the same old American
[1:35:42] Speaker 3: versus American anyway. So now you you literally have to
[1:35:46] Speaker 3: rig it. The only way you can do that is
[1:35:49] Speaker 3: warm ups. You let the what the Euro play the
[1:35:53] Speaker 3: weakest group to see if they can win. So you
[1:35:55] Speaker 3: basically have the Euro play back to back because you
[1:35:57] Speaker 3: don't want them to sit. for, you don't want them
[1:36:01] Speaker 3: to sit, now they're coming out cold because most of
[1:36:04] Speaker 3: them are slow. So you want them to play and play.
[1:36:08] Speaker 3: So you're going to have, most likely, them playing back-to-back
[1:36:12] Speaker 3: versus starting, then sitting, or wait, or sitting.
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: So it's one of those things.
[1:36:17] Speaker 3: Or, if you're smart, you could have them wait the
[1:36:20] Speaker 3: first game, then play back-to-back, hopefully, that team. Have them
[1:36:22] Speaker 3: group C and go against two or three. Have them
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: play against whoever looks tired first. Oh, man, they should
[1:36:32] Speaker 3: just have two teams, man. All these three teams.
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: But they won't be team two.
[1:36:37] Speaker 3: The best 12 U.S., the best.
[1:36:41] Speaker 7: I know, but I'm just saying, like, at this, I mean,
[1:36:43] Speaker 7: there's no reason to have two different USA teams. Like, just, yo,
[1:36:46] Speaker 7: the best players, just the best players that y'all.
[1:36:48] Speaker 3: Can find for the U.S. Y'all argued me this down.
[1:36:52] Speaker 3: I said, you're looking at five. Everyone's looking at only five.
[1:36:58] Speaker 3: And three of them are bigs. After that, bigs. So
[1:37:03] Speaker 3: they already have to change the format for them to
[1:37:07] Speaker 3: be on the team.
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: And say positionless.
[1:37:09] Speaker 3: So now you're going to have three centers because usually
[1:37:11] Speaker 3: an all-star game only has two. So then you're literally
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: trying to figure out these pieces. And then there's guys
[1:37:19] Speaker 3: on the team that don't even start in the NBA
[1:37:23] Speaker 3: that they will get pulled into the all-star game. And
[1:37:25] Speaker 3: if you're a real all-star, you're sitting there like, Come on, man.
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: This is some bull.
[1:37:29] Speaker 3: So you're trying to figure out how to make it work.
[1:37:32] Speaker 3: And most likely, they're not going to put Bogdan and
[1:37:34] Speaker 3: Bogdan in a game. They're just going to put Carl Anthony.
[1:37:38] Speaker 3: If you're an all-star, we're going to move you to
[1:37:39] Speaker 3: the side.
[1:37:42] Speaker 2: Who else?
[1:37:43] Speaker 1: I mean, well, the first five MVP ladder, though, and
[1:37:46] Speaker 1: it had five international players on it. So you got
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: those first five right there. Five international. Just on the
[1:37:52] Speaker 1: top five.
[1:37:53] Speaker 2: How many bigs?
[1:37:54] Speaker 3: So you had Luka, SGA, Giannis.
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: Jokic. You're the fifth one.
[1:38:00] Speaker 7: Yeah, so three big ones.
[1:38:03] Speaker 2: It's a bonus.
[1:38:04] Speaker 1: It's all bigs.
[1:38:05] Speaker 3: We went through this a long time ago. So now
[1:38:07] Speaker 3: trying to find 12. You're trying to find seven more.
[1:38:12] Speaker 1: It's rough.
[1:38:13] Speaker 3: So you can do it that way.
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: So they're trying to move it to eight.
[1:38:17] Speaker 3: So then they got to pull three.
[1:38:18] Speaker 2: So you have five.
[1:38:19] Speaker 1: My bad. So you got SGA, Giannis, Jokic, Wimby, Luka.
[1:38:24] Speaker 1: You got Alper and Shanguna playing very well. Another five.
[1:38:27] Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert.
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: Another five. Markman.
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: Huh? Another five.
[1:38:30] Speaker 1: Laurie Markman.
[1:38:31] Speaker 3: Nick Blakner. I mean, you look at that. Your team
[1:38:33] Speaker 3: is tall. So, now you just say, okay, let's move
[1:38:35] Speaker 3: it to eight. And then they're just going to try to...
[1:38:39] Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, Germanic.
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Now you're pulling people that's not Austin.
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: I think they just have regular Austin. Or just cancel it.
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: It's another gimmick, man. Look at this.
[1:38:48] Speaker 3: I'm tired of this shit. Look at these.
[1:38:51] Speaker 2: Look at this.
[1:38:51] Speaker 3: Man. I'll just cancel it.
[1:38:52] Speaker 1: Just do a horse game, a scale challenge, and I
[1:38:54] Speaker 1: don't know.
[1:38:55] Speaker 3: I said this. If you want people to care, if
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: you want people to care, take it away from them.
[1:39:04] Speaker 3: But the problem is the stars don't care about the game.
[1:39:08] Speaker 3: They just want the selection. I just want this thing.
[1:39:13] Speaker 3: I'm an all-star.
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:39:14] Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck about the game. I don't
[1:39:16] Speaker 3: care about the game. So it's, you know, you're fighting
[1:39:21] Speaker 3: an uphill battle, but... Yeah, because it's mid-season, right? I
[1:39:24] Speaker 3: don't mean to cut you off. It's mid-season. And.
[1:39:30] Speaker 2: Who cares halfway through the season?
[1:39:33] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:39:34] Speaker 6: It's what you've done halfway through the season and it's always...
[1:39:37] Speaker 6: It's the same guys sprinkling in an added two, three,
[1:39:41] Speaker 6: four new all-stars. Some guys get hurt, some guys don't qualify. So, yeah,
[1:39:52] Speaker 6: it's pointless to do this shit, man.
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: Like, it's... Do you think the NBA Cup is pointless too, then? Yeah.
[1:40:01] Speaker 6: So let's do it at the end, just like the
[1:40:04] Speaker 6: Pro Bowl, right? If you made the Pro Bowl selection,
[1:40:07] Speaker 6: it's at the end of the season. They got a
[1:40:09] Speaker 6: fucking all-star game then.
[1:40:10] Speaker 1: I'm just laughing if they did that halfway through the
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: NFL season.
[1:40:12] Speaker 6: Just imagine you got a Pro Bowl game fucking halfway
[1:40:15] Speaker 6: through the season. Motherfuckers be like, huh? I'm not trying
[1:40:18] Speaker 6: to plan that shit to get hurt.
[1:40:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, my quarterback out there just got hit.
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: Nah.
[1:40:22] Speaker 1: Just imagine, right? No.
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: Had the shit at the end of the season, man.
[1:40:27] Speaker 6: Certain guys, the way they do it, the guys that's
[1:40:30] Speaker 6: in the playoffs, making the deep end run in the playoffs,
[1:40:33] Speaker 6: you pick a replacement. Have an all-star game at the
[1:40:35] Speaker 6: end of the season. Do it that way. Guys will
[1:40:38] Speaker 6: be more reluctant to play in it.
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: The season's over.
[1:40:40] Speaker 6: You put it in the spectacle. Have the shit during
[1:40:41] Speaker 6: the NBA Finals. It's a bigger stage. You bring everybody together.
[1:40:46] Speaker 6: But having this shit in mid-season, man, it's pointless at
[1:40:49] Speaker 6: this point, man. Like, because it's... But doesn't that create
[1:40:52] Speaker 6: another problem?
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: Why is it pointless now and it wasn't pointless like
[1:40:55] Speaker 1: back then?
[1:40:56] Speaker 2: Because TV.
[1:40:57] Speaker 3: We didn't have streaming services. So TV, you didn't see
[1:41:00] Speaker 3: certain things.
[1:41:01] Speaker 2: So like, let's say.
[1:41:03] Speaker 3: Let's say, guys, the world didn't get to see certain matchups, right? So, like,
[1:41:09] Speaker 3: back in the 80s, right? Okay.
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:41:11] Speaker 3: If you're Chicago, like, this is your first time getting
[1:41:15] Speaker 3: to see Michael Jordan. Now the world gets to see
[1:41:17] Speaker 3: who you are. So you're going out there playing hard
[1:41:19] Speaker 3: against MJ. Now MJ says, oh, this is what you're doing?
[1:41:23] Speaker 1: I bet.
[1:41:23] Speaker 3: So that was it. Now everybody gets to be on TV.
[1:41:27] Speaker 3: And once everybody gets to see, we all got TV games.
[1:41:30] Speaker 3: We all on the platform. We're all getting popping.
[1:41:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:41:32] Speaker 8: I remember those all-star games.
[1:41:35] Speaker 3: The jerseys used to be lit. I mean, I've been
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: in the locker room.
[1:41:38] Speaker 2: We all start off the same way, right?
[1:41:41] Speaker 3: You're going there. All right, we're going to play. Everybody
[1:41:43] Speaker 3: playing hard? Everybody playing?
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: All right, bet. All right, bet. Let's go.
[1:41:46] Speaker 2: All right, we're going to.
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: Win this this year. One person.
[1:41:49] Speaker 3: It takes one person to chuck a shot, not get
[1:41:54] Speaker 3: back on defense, do something dumb, and then everybody's like,
[1:41:57] Speaker 3: I'm good.
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: I'm good.
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: The first one that shoots one of those half-court threes,
[1:42:04] Speaker 3: all that playing hard is out the window.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: Nope.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: Different than the park, right? Somebody called a bad foul, right?
[1:42:11] Speaker 2: Oh, this is what we're doing here? All right, then
[1:42:13] Speaker 2: the game is junked up.
[1:42:14] Speaker 8: To me, it used to feel like a cool pickup game.
[1:42:20] Speaker 3: Like after Drew Lee was playing. That's the way it
[1:42:22] Speaker 3: used to be in.
[1:42:23] Speaker 1: Guys to be serious in the fourth quarter. Like, the game.
[1:42:25] Speaker 6: Guys, when it came out, the understanding was we're going
[1:42:29] Speaker 6: to come out here, have fun the first three quarters,
[1:42:32] Speaker 6: put on a show for the fans, try to win
[1:42:34] Speaker 6: it in the fourth. That's the way it used to be.
[1:42:38] Speaker 6: I don't know where it went away from that at
[1:42:40] Speaker 6: some point. I don't know what year it was, but
[1:42:42] Speaker 6: it went away from that. And like Gil's point, right?
[1:42:47] Speaker 6: Guys want the selection. Guys could care less about the
[1:42:51] Speaker 6: game itself. So therefore, if.
[1:42:55] Speaker 6: You got 15 all NBA spots, right? Some of those
[1:43:01] Speaker 6: guys will be playing deep in the playoffs.
[1:43:03] Speaker 3: Not all of them.
[1:43:07] Speaker 6: Had a shit in the first round, second, whatever it is,
[1:43:09] Speaker 6: wherever you're at. I think half the first round, the
[1:43:10] Speaker 6: guys are just done getting done playing.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: You wait too much.
[1:43:14] Speaker 2: Because you can't wait till the finals.
[1:43:15] Speaker 3: It's too old, guys.
[1:43:16] Speaker 6: So the first round of the playoffs... This is the
[1:43:20] Speaker 6: all-star shit. You make it a whole thing.
[1:43:22] Speaker 3: That would be dope, though, still.
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: Something of that nature.
[1:43:26] Speaker 1: No, but the problem, see.
[1:43:28] Speaker 2: Something of that nature. I don't know what it is,
[1:43:30] Speaker 2: but it's all the same thing, right?
[1:43:33] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: If you're talking about, all right, let's look at the teams.
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: You got Denver, right?
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: You got Jokic.
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: You got Shea. You probably have Jalen Williams, right? You
[1:43:44] Speaker 2: have Luka, let's say LeBron.
[1:43:46] Speaker 1: Then you have KD.
[1:43:47] Speaker 3: If they're at the top team, and you're talking about
[1:43:50] Speaker 3: first round, they're not playing.
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way it all is.
[1:43:53] Speaker 3: Now you got a whole bunch of, like, fillers. Do
[1:43:57] Speaker 3: they get the all-star nods, too, or are they just fill-ins?
[1:44:00] Speaker 6: Whoever, so the way the NFL is, whoever's, like, in
[1:44:04] Speaker 6: the second spot, if he's healthy. Like, just say, like, if, say,
[1:44:07] Speaker 6: when Tom Brady was making it, you knew more than
[1:44:10] Speaker 6: likely he was going to be in the Super Bowl.
[1:44:12] Speaker 1: Whoever, he made it. He's the first team. So he
[1:44:15] Speaker 1: gets the stamp? He gets the stamp.
[1:44:17] Speaker 6: But whoever the second guy is gets– he's still– then
[1:44:21] Speaker 6: you might– if there's three quarterbacks, you take Tom off,
[1:44:24] Speaker 6: then whoever didn't make it, he becomes the second.
[1:44:27] Speaker 2: Peyton Manning moved first, and then whoever was at third.
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: In theory, those two Super Bowl teams would have the
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: most potential Pro Bowlers. Yeah.
[1:44:36] Speaker 2: There's still enough quality talent around the league.
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: But obviously that didn't work because now they took away
[1:44:40] Speaker 3: their shit because people wasn't playing hard.
[1:44:42] Speaker 6: Because dudes didn't want to get hurt. Now they made
[1:44:43] Speaker 6: it into flag football. They made it into some different shit.
[1:44:46] Speaker 2: No, they did because guys wouldn't want to get hurt.
[1:44:47] Speaker 3: For sure.
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: They didn't get into crime.
[1:44:48] Speaker 6: So guys got their motherfucker. They made it into a
[1:44:52] Speaker 6: show for the fans.
[1:44:54] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: To your point.
[1:44:56] Speaker 6: Make it into a show for the fans. Have some
[1:44:58] Speaker 6: competition things.
[1:44:59] Speaker 3: Have some guys.
[1:45:00] Speaker 1: Speaking of that, we had whores, whores, trick shots, all
[1:45:03] Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
[1:45:04] Speaker 3: Make it into something because people will.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: Then how's that?
[1:45:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that thing, man.
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: We had Tracy McGrady on this couch a couple months ago,
[1:45:13] Speaker 1: and he basically alluded to the fact that he had
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: a conversation with NBC, and they had talked about potentially
[1:45:17] Speaker 1: bringing a one-on-one game to All-Star Saturday night.
[1:45:21] Speaker 2: Do it at the end of the season.
[1:45:23] Speaker 1: One-on-one tournament.
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: Do it at the end of the season.
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: I think All-Star, like you said, should just be skill stuff.
[1:45:27] Speaker 1: Like fun stuff.
[1:45:27] Speaker 6: Because it's supposed to be fan interaction, right? And you
[1:45:31] Speaker 6: are losing the fans because of this game. You need
[1:45:36] Speaker 6: to do a better job of surrounding things around the
[1:45:39] Speaker 6: skill set of guys and fun activities, performances, like those things.
[1:45:46] Speaker 6: Have a bunch of the young guys come in and
[1:45:48] Speaker 6: motherfucking dog pony show shit, right?
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:45:52] Speaker 6: That's what you do to young guys, right? Appearances and
[1:45:54] Speaker 6: all that. When a guy's young, you go, hey, young fella.
[1:45:57] Speaker 2: You want the 2,500?
[1:45:57] Speaker 6: Go do this appearance for me. Hey, young fella, they
[1:46:02] Speaker 6: eager to do that because they've been in the league
[1:46:03] Speaker 6: a while. You give the guys their nod, their stamp,
[1:46:06] Speaker 6: you're all-star, cool. But people come to see NBA players.
[1:46:10] Speaker 6: You walk around the convention center where they have the
[1:46:13] Speaker 6: NBA jam.
[1:46:14] Speaker 2: Sessions, all that.
[1:46:15] Speaker 6: Them fans are there just to see players, no matter
[1:46:18] Speaker 6: who the fuck the player is. They happy to see
[1:46:20] Speaker 6: NBA players. They happy to stop guys, take pictures. They
[1:46:23] Speaker 6: happy to, those type of events. You do that shit,
[1:46:26] Speaker 6: you bring the fans back involved. Bring the all-stars there.
[1:46:29] Speaker 6: Let them sign autographs. It's the interaction that the fans want.
[1:46:34] Speaker 6: They don't give a fuck about the game.
[1:46:36] Speaker 3: I think this has all really been an illusion of.
[1:46:43] Speaker 2: Players playing hard.
[1:46:46] Speaker 3: I don't think it's really been a real thing because
[1:46:49] Speaker 3: it's always been we're going to have fun in the
[1:46:53] Speaker 3: first three, and if the game is close, we're going
[1:46:54] Speaker 3: to play hard.
[1:46:56] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:46:57] Speaker 3: And I'm looking at a game that had– because I
[1:47:01] Speaker 3: wanted to see, like, if there was a time where
[1:47:03] Speaker 3: there was just these blowouts or these big blowouts where
[1:47:08] Speaker 3: they were scoring too much and it looked bad. And
[1:47:10] Speaker 3: then I have– there's a game right here that has–
[1:47:15] Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, Isaiah Thomas, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Patrick Ewing,
[1:47:22] Speaker 3: Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars.
[1:47:26] Speaker 2: Those are defensive juggernauts.
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: They lost by 40 at the All-Star game.
[1:47:32] Speaker 2: Right, so I'm sitting here at 153 to 114. So
[1:47:33] Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, so it's like.
[1:47:38] Speaker 3: I think we just have this weird idea because now
[1:47:41] Speaker 3: our league from reporting is more of a negative thing
[1:47:45] Speaker 3: than back then.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: It's more of a negative.
[1:47:50] Speaker 3: Feel where we're pointing out everything that's negative instead of
[1:47:53] Speaker 3: just pushing, you know, the greatness of the game. So
[1:47:57] Speaker 3: it looks like that era played balls to the walls
[1:48:01] Speaker 3: when the most blowouts happened in the 80s and the 90s.
[1:48:04] Speaker 3: Because negativity sells, right?
[1:48:08] Speaker 6: And there's so many platforms now. So many people have
[1:48:12] Speaker 6: an opinion now where then you knew where to go
[1:48:15] Speaker 6: get the NBA content from. And like, to your point,
[1:48:19] Speaker 6: there wasn't bashing going on you had to be doing
[1:48:22] Speaker 6: something terribly wrong for it to be negative publicity for
[1:48:26] Speaker 6: your team or your organization and player yeah it's just
[1:48:30] Speaker 6: yeah people that's it's low hanging fruit at this point
[1:48:38] Speaker 6: to point out negative things with teams and people. Because
[1:48:42] Speaker 6: it's click bait. For people to go, oh shit, he
[1:48:44] Speaker 6: said this about the Lakers. Let me go, he said
[1:48:47] Speaker 6: this about the All-Star game. He's pointed out, they scored
[1:48:51] Speaker 6: this many points in the first half. It ain't been
[1:48:53] Speaker 6: this many points scored in the first half of an
[1:48:54] Speaker 6: All-Star game since. Now somebody else is going to do
[1:48:57] Speaker 6: a research. They didn't have no assists in this quarter.
[1:49:01] Speaker 6: So it's like, Everything is a domino effect and low
[1:49:04] Speaker 6: hanging fruit at this point for the negative shit to
[1:49:06] Speaker 6: be click bait and everybody is, that's what people want to, unfortunately.
[1:49:11] Speaker 8: Is Adam Silver making it worse by, Feeding into it,
[1:49:14] Speaker 8: keep doing this.
[1:49:15] Speaker 1: It keeps people talking bad about it.
[1:49:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, because the noise is so loud.
[1:49:20] Speaker 6: He tried that shit last year where people automatically said, oh,
[1:49:24] Speaker 6: that's a fail.
[1:49:25] Speaker 2: So now people waiting on an All-Star game this year.
[1:49:28] Speaker 3: That's a fail.
[1:49:29] Speaker 6: So just go back to the East-West format, man. Let
[1:49:33] Speaker 6: it be the best 16, whatever, 24 guys, man. Some
[1:49:37] Speaker 6: guys are going to get hurt. Some guys are going
[1:49:38] Speaker 6: to get replacement All-Stars. East versus West. Go back to
[1:49:43] Speaker 6: wearing your motherfucking home uniform, roll uniform, wherever the game is.
[1:49:46] Speaker 6: If it's the West, it's here this year. The West
[1:49:50] Speaker 6: teams are home. and let them wear their fucking home
[1:49:54] Speaker 6: uniforms and just go back. I'm going to keep that
[1:49:56] Speaker 6: cheap shit. I want the all-star jersey to say all-star jersey.
[1:50:00] Speaker 3: But it's still going to say it on the back. Huh?
[1:50:03] Speaker 1: That one.
[1:50:03] Speaker 3: No, no, you put my team logo in the back.
[1:50:05] Speaker 3: I don't want my team shit and.
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: Some shit I done did. I did this.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: I did this. I did this.
[1:50:12] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[1:50:13] Speaker 1: He's all-star, man. You keep that wizard shit over at
[1:50:16] Speaker 1: the Wizards. That was definitely you.
[1:50:20] Speaker 3: I got an East All-Star. You got an East All-Star.
[1:50:23] Speaker 3: Imagine that bitch just said Nets. The way they treated me,
[1:50:26] Speaker 3: fucking Nets. They didn't pay me my money, fucking Nets.
[1:50:30] Speaker 3: But when I was an All-Star, it kind of was.
[1:50:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, I dig it.
[1:50:34] Speaker 3: The real... On a serious note, the real All-Star, the
[1:50:38] Speaker 3: real problem with the All-Star is this.
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: Referee in. That is the real problem. It's the referee
[1:50:47] Speaker 2: in any all-star game.
[1:50:49] Speaker 3: Imagine you're a Luka, Shea, Jokic, and you're reffing the
[1:50:57] Speaker 3: game as a fun thing.
[1:51:01] Speaker 1: Soon as they get hit a few times, they checked out.
[1:51:05] Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, I'm good. I'm not going to sit
[1:51:08] Speaker 3: here and play a regular basketball game if you're not
[1:51:11] Speaker 3: calling a regular basketball game.
[1:51:13] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:51:13] Speaker 3: Think about when Kevin Durant went up and he got
[1:51:16] Speaker 3: smacked and he just went the other way. Do you
[1:51:18] Speaker 3: see the next possessions? All right, let me just go
[1:51:21] Speaker 3: ahead and sit out here and shoot these jump shots.
[1:51:22] Speaker 3: I don't want to get hurt now. Because now you're
[1:51:24] Speaker 3: allowing them to just play as physical as possible.
[1:51:29] Speaker 2: So then it becomes, I'm just going to shoot jump shots.
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit there and get hurt.
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: I don't want to drive.
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: There's going to be a whole bunch of sidesteps so
[1:51:35] Speaker 1: y'all can't hit me.
[1:51:36] Speaker 3: So the fact that you only have 10, 12, 20
[1:51:39] Speaker 3: free throws in a game where it's the best players, right?
[1:51:45] Speaker 3: You're taking away their aggression because you don't want to
[1:51:48] Speaker 3: call nothing because you think it's appealing to let a.
[1:51:51] Speaker 2: Motherfucker get hacked. So now I don't want to play.
[1:51:57] Speaker 3: I got a season in the city. Yeah, I can
[1:51:59] Speaker 3: see that.
[1:52:00] Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been told let the game free flow. Let
[1:52:02] Speaker 6: the game free flow. They don't want a lot of whistles.
[1:52:04] Speaker 6: Let the guys play.
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:52:06] Speaker 2: If it's obvious, then you call it.
[1:52:08] Speaker 1: Like, it has to be really obvious for you to
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: call it. Yeah.
[1:52:11] Speaker 6: If it's effective, yeah. But other than that, they want
[1:52:13] Speaker 6: the game like this. And they want it so good.
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: Dre, my love, all-star game. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
[1:52:18] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: Kicking clotheslines.
[1:52:20] Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
[1:52:21] Speaker 1: Go the other way.
[1:52:23] Speaker 8: What's the difference between an All-Star game and these highlights
[1:52:26] Speaker 8: that be putting up on Instagram from UCLA and stuff?
[1:52:30] Speaker 3: Can't they play that? Can you play like that in
[1:52:32] Speaker 3: the All-Star game? UCLA, you call foul. You call your
[1:52:34] Speaker 3: own foul.
[1:52:35] Speaker 2: Foul!
[1:52:36] Speaker 3: Let them call their own foul. Foul!
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:52:40] Speaker 2: It's the fouls.
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: It's the fouls.
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: Let the defense call fouls.
[1:52:43] Speaker 3: Real run.
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: It's the fouls that turns you off.
[1:52:45] Speaker 3: You ever got hit? You ever got hit? You got
[1:52:48] Speaker 3: hit in an All-Star game, right?
[1:52:53] Speaker 1: That shit hurt.
[1:52:55] Speaker 3: How many times did you win?
[1:52:56] Speaker 1: Three. This shit hurt.
[1:52:57] Speaker 8: You ever got hit in a championship game?
[1:53:00] Speaker 1: No. Uh-oh.
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: That shit worse.
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: No, no.
[1:53:03] Speaker 8: It's like you just got hit all season at the
[1:53:05] Speaker 8: last couple games.
[1:53:07] Speaker 1: You just keep getting hit.
[1:53:08] Speaker 3: It's like a build-up. No, you said it.
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: How playoff changes, right?
[1:53:14] Speaker 3: The calls between regular season and playoff, we be like, what?
[1:53:18] Speaker 3: Come on. God, that is different. 12 fouls. The All-Star
[1:53:22] Speaker 3: game is worse.
[1:53:25] Speaker 8: But I'm saying, as players, you know levels of playing. Like,
[1:53:32] Speaker 8: you know to go 70 or 80. But they do
[1:53:35] Speaker 8: be doing that bullshit.
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: What happens to you when you start getting fouled a lot?
[1:53:41] Speaker 2: Do you even think about driving? No, you just shoot
[1:53:43] Speaker 2: jump shots now.
[1:53:44] Speaker 1: And that's what the game is turning to.
[1:53:46] Speaker 3: I don't want to get hit.
[1:53:46] Speaker 2: I'm going to shoot a bunch of jumpers.
[1:53:48] Speaker 7: I think they should just wrap All-Star Weekend up, though.
[1:53:51] Speaker 7: Turn it into a big-ass basketball convention.
[1:53:53] Speaker 1: Have a barbecue. Yeah, like complex, you.
[1:53:56] Speaker 2: Know, like.
[1:53:57] Speaker 3: Jason.
[1:53:57] Speaker 8: Williams going through the hole doing that shit. That's where
[1:54:00] Speaker 8: you turn that stuff on.
[1:54:02] Speaker 6: Making it into a whole thing at the convention. They
[1:54:05] Speaker 6: having this shit at the jam session anyway, man.
[1:54:07] Speaker 1: Hey, man, look. Zoom. Zoom that bitch. Zoom everybody in there.
[1:54:13] Speaker 3: Everybody at home, y'all Zoom them. Take it away.
[1:54:16] Speaker 1: Just do one-on-one.
[1:54:17] Speaker 2: Just do one-on-one.
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: One-on-one. Now, don't even do that. You don't even got
[1:54:21] Speaker 1: to do that. Just do some skill shit and have
[1:54:22] Speaker 1: a bunch of, like, a big-ass convention, a basketball convention.
[1:54:26] Speaker 3: It don't need to be no.
[1:54:27] Speaker 2: Let me tell you, you know why? Because if I know,
[1:54:30] Speaker 2: if I can, like... Not be there?
[1:54:33] Speaker 6: No, you have to be there. Like I said, half
[1:54:36] Speaker 6: the guys come, right? Damn the game, right? Damn the game, right?
[1:54:40] Speaker 1: Okay, we take the game out?
[1:54:42] Speaker 6: It's for all-star weekend, man. Like I said, it's for
[1:54:46] Speaker 6: fan interaction. This is supposed to be for a fandom
[1:54:49] Speaker 6: of guys, teams, organizations. It's supposed to be that. Let's
[1:54:53] Speaker 6: use it for that. To B's point. Have it, like
[1:54:57] Speaker 6: I said, they just want to meet the players. Autographed
[1:55:02] Speaker 6: pitchers opportunity. That's all the fans want, man. That game
[1:55:07] Speaker 6: is overpriced. It's celebrity driven. Have a fucking, it's a
[1:55:15] Speaker 6: big ass party with basketball in the middle of it.
[1:55:18] Speaker 3: It's a fashion show. So have the same thing. Have
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: big-ass parties. Braun got a party this year.
[1:55:26] Speaker 1: He got a party. This company, you're looking to sponsor
[1:55:29] Speaker 1: this party.
[1:55:29] Speaker 6: You're looking to sponsor this party. You're looking to do this.
[1:55:31] Speaker 6: Your clothing line there. Everybody got adventures, right? Yeah, everybody
[1:55:37] Speaker 6: got some outside the game now, right? Yeah, bring it
[1:55:39] Speaker 6: all together. Bring big-ass.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Take it with whatever you want to call it. Bring
[1:55:44] Speaker 1: this shit together basically. Yeah, let people have it that way.
[1:55:48] Speaker 1: Let people run on the court.
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: Let people run on the mic.
[1:55:51] Speaker 7: Because back in the day, we used to have where
[1:55:53] Speaker 7: you say Jamfest where guys used to come in and
[1:55:55] Speaker 7: be at a section of one court right here.
[1:55:57] Speaker 3: Now the guy way over there.
[1:55:58] Speaker 7: It's like I'm just a bunch of shit going to
[1:56:00] Speaker 7: you have like guys coming through doing talks.
[1:56:02] Speaker 3: It's like yes.
[1:56:03] Speaker 1: So it remains to be seen, because that's all it
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: is anyway.
[1:56:06] Speaker 6: KJ had a thing with Spalding last year. KJ won
[1:56:08] Speaker 6: the All-Star. That thing with Spalding. I just thought about it.
[1:56:12] Speaker 6: Let people stand up.
[1:56:15] Speaker 1: People who's watching the game don't like the game.
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: Because they complain about it.
[1:56:20] Speaker 3: The people who go there are paying $ 10, 000 to have fun.
[1:56:27] Speaker 3: All the complaints is coming from the people sitting at
[1:56:29] Speaker 3: home watching. Take it away from their motherfucking ass. If
[1:56:34] Speaker 3: you want this experience.
[1:56:36] Speaker 1: You got to come here. Have it at a stadium.
[1:56:38] Speaker 1: And make that happen. I'm with that. Take it there.
[1:56:41] Speaker 1: And stream it. No, no, take it to SoFi.
[1:56:42] Speaker 3: No, I'm not streaming shit.
[1:56:44] Speaker 1: Fuck you.
[1:56:45] Speaker 3: You want to complain?
[1:56:46] Speaker 1: You can't watch it. I will have it here at SoFi, and.
[1:56:52] Speaker 3: I guarantee you those seats. Because we've never complained about
[1:56:58] Speaker 3: it not being sold out.
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:57:00] Speaker 3: Same people coming every year, buying the same tickets, and
[1:57:03] Speaker 3: they keep buying. Like, Jay-Z, they're going to be there.
[1:57:06] Speaker 3: They're spending their $ 30, 000, $ 40, 000 every year. Obviously, they're having
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: a good-ass time. It's the fans watching complaining.
[1:57:17] Speaker 1: Take it away.
[1:57:19] Speaker 2: You don't need to put it on TV. Treat it
[1:57:21] Speaker 2: like a comedy show.
[1:57:23] Speaker 3: No phone.
[1:57:24] Speaker 2: Historically, right, from Thursday to.
[1:57:30] Speaker 6: Sunday right before the All-Star game. That is the fun
[1:57:34] Speaker 6: of All-Star week. Most people, most people don't even, they
[1:57:39] Speaker 6: ain't staying Sunday. They ain't fucking leaving.
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: You're right. We did.
[1:57:42] Speaker 6: Most of the fun, and if you're not playing that game,
[1:57:44] Speaker 6: you ain't got no obligations on Sunday late. You're waking up,
[1:57:48] Speaker 6: you're checking the fuck out, and you're leaving. That's just
[1:57:50] Speaker 6: the way it is. From Thursday, Saturday is the fun
[1:57:56] Speaker 6: of All-Star weekend. That's the fans, that's parties, that's footlock events,
[1:58:02] Speaker 6: that's this event, that's when you have an opportunity for
[1:58:05] Speaker 6: tough crowd. Everybody has an opportunity doing from Thursday to
[1:58:10] Speaker 6: Sunday before the game. That's when people go. Use it
[1:58:15] Speaker 6: for that. Get rid of the game itself, man. Like,
[1:58:19] Speaker 6: it's just pointless at this moment. Because you're going to gimmick.
[1:58:22] Speaker 6: You gimmicked last year.
[1:58:23] Speaker 2: People complained.
[1:58:24] Speaker 1: You gimmicked this year. What's going to happen? Because it's
[1:58:27] Speaker 1: going to be a failure once again. And what are
[1:58:30] Speaker 1: you going to turn back to next? Nothing.
[1:58:32] Speaker 3: You're running out of gimmicks.
[1:58:33] Speaker 1: You're running out of gimmicks.
[1:58:35] Speaker 4: Let people stand up and drink and watch.
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: Again. Like around. It's not the atmosphere.
[1:58:43] Speaker 3: It's not the atmosphere. It's you foul me, dog. I'm
[1:58:47] Speaker 3: not going hard no more. So call it. How about
[1:58:51] Speaker 3: this gimmick? Call the game. Like you do any regular game.
[1:58:59] Speaker 3: If Luka can get his in-game fouls in an all-star game,
[1:59:04] Speaker 3: Luka will play like Luka. Think about the people who
[1:59:07] Speaker 3: don't play hard.
[1:59:10] Speaker 2: Jokic never plays hard there.
[1:59:12] Speaker 3: He is the most foul day in the year, and
[1:59:14] Speaker 3: he don't get those calls, right?
[1:59:16] Speaker 2: You're talking about Luka.
[1:59:17] Speaker 1: If you have these guys are getting the calls how.
[1:59:20] Speaker 3: They play the game, they're going to play that game hard.
[1:59:23] Speaker 3: But if I know, if Luka knows he's not going
[1:59:25] Speaker 3: to get his calls, he's not going hard. That's why
[1:59:28] Speaker 3: he's never went hard.
[1:59:28] Speaker 6: It's a beast point he just made, right? You keep
[1:59:31] Speaker 6: the celebrity game. You keep that.
[1:59:34] Speaker 1: You keep the rookie. That's a popular game now. Celebrity
[1:59:39] Speaker 1: game now is popular, right?
[1:59:41] Speaker 3: It's content.
[1:59:43] Speaker 2: You need that.
[1:59:43] Speaker 1: I see four celebrities right here. You keep the rookies.
[1:59:47] Speaker 1: You keep the rookies.
[1:59:49] Speaker 6: Rookie sophomore shit, they go because there's up-and-coming challenge. You
[1:59:53] Speaker 6: keep that shit. Skills challenge, dunk contest, three-point. You keep
[1:59:57] Speaker 6: all of that shit because that's Saturday night fun. You
[2:00:00] Speaker 6: make that into a party as it is still. You
[2:00:04] Speaker 6: keep a celebrity game, keep all of those events. People
[2:00:06] Speaker 6: could give fucks about Sunday, man. They just come in
[2:00:08] Speaker 6: that bitch to put on their fashion shit, to come
[2:00:10] Speaker 6: spend the $ 30, 000, $ 40, 000.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: And to sit courtside for two and a half hours and....
[2:00:17] Speaker 3: Should Sunday be brunches and parties? Yes, that's what it is.
[2:00:20] Speaker 3: Like a brunch.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: That's what it is. Like Sunday, just be a brunch.
[2:00:24] Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing.
[2:00:24] Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a brunch spot on Sunday. I'm
[2:00:26] Speaker 2: about to say, everybody just go to KD Brunch.
[2:00:29] Speaker 1: They can get skipped. The Rock Nation joint on Sunday.
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: There's so many opportunities.
[2:00:35] Speaker 3: The only problem with it all is always the money
[2:00:38] Speaker 3: that's made from the game. The advertisers, that's what the
[2:00:42] Speaker 3: NBA is not going to get rid of because a
[2:00:43] Speaker 3: lot of people are paying for those ads. And that's
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: why I'm saying your gimmick, the gimmick doesn't need to
[2:00:50] Speaker 3: be gimmick if you just call it like a... You
[2:00:52] Speaker 3: think these motherfuckers here is averaging 39, 11, and 7 wants.
[2:00:58] Speaker 1: To be hit hard. at this game.
[2:01:03] Speaker 3: You think you'll get your average a triple-double wants to
[2:01:06] Speaker 3: just be grabbed on and why you think certain players
[2:01:10] Speaker 3: think about what I'm saying. Your three MVP type of
[2:01:13] Speaker 3: guys don't go hard in this because it's not a
[2:01:17] Speaker 3: disadvantage of the game itself.
[2:01:20] Speaker 1: So just call it regular. If you call it regular
[2:01:24] Speaker 1: the first one to go in and he get hit
[2:01:26] Speaker 1: and you call a foul.
[2:01:28] Speaker 2: Everybody, oh, they calling it a day.
[2:01:30] Speaker 3: The next one going to try it.
[2:01:31] Speaker 1: You calling it a day.
[2:01:32] Speaker 2: Now you got regular basketball. So I think Giannis... Oh,
[2:01:34] Speaker 2: they on fire.
[2:01:36] Speaker 6: So I think certain... I think certain guys can set
[2:01:39] Speaker 6: the tone, right?
[2:01:40] Speaker 1: Giannis does it every year. He just move out of
[2:01:42] Speaker 1: the way.
[2:01:42] Speaker 2: Move out of the way.
[2:01:44] Speaker 1: Step Curry, lay on the floor. Like, that's what's happening, right?
[2:01:47] Speaker 1: Because you know what he's going to do.
[2:01:48] Speaker 3: So.
[2:01:49] Speaker 1: Just call it.
[2:01:49] Speaker 6: And I think Shay on the other side, if he
[2:01:51] Speaker 6: took it serious from the beginning, he could set the
[2:01:52] Speaker 6: tone as well because how he plays.
[2:01:54] Speaker 3: It's just all.
[2:01:55] Speaker 2: They got to call the fouls.
[2:01:55] Speaker 3: It's all. If I pump fake you and you. If
[2:01:57] Speaker 3: I pump fake you, get you off and I go.
[2:01:59] Speaker 3: And then they just let the ball go.
[2:02:00] Speaker 1: Out of bounds.
[2:02:00] Speaker 3: Just do running clocking if you're going to call fouls.
[2:02:02] Speaker 3: That wouldn't be dope if they let you call in
[2:02:03] Speaker 3: on fouls.
[2:02:04] Speaker 1: No.
[2:02:04] Speaker 2: Let the defense call fouls.
[2:02:05] Speaker 1: Just don't. Stop calling. Running clock.
[2:02:08] Speaker 2: It's an effective strategy.
[2:02:10] Speaker 3: What is it?
[2:02:10] Speaker 2: Letting the defense call fouls.
[2:02:11] Speaker 1: Letting the defense call their fouls.
[2:02:13] Speaker 2: Like, what are you getting?
[2:02:15] Speaker 1: Not calling fouls. Yeah, just make me tougher.
[2:02:17] Speaker 3: Can you make me a real notice?
[2:02:20] Speaker 1: They doing everything but call the bitch regular man.
[2:02:23] Speaker 3: One foul make you want me to.
[2:02:25] Speaker 1: You want me to go hard calling regular? I don't
[2:02:29] Speaker 1: want to do a crossover and I get clothesline.
[2:02:31] Speaker 3: Check it out.
[2:02:32] Speaker 8: When have you got clothesline?
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: I want to know about it. And nobody's ever been
[2:02:40] Speaker 1: serious since.
[2:02:41] Speaker 3: But nobody want to say it when he got his
[2:02:43] Speaker 3: nose broken. Everybody was like, oh shit.
[2:02:45] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[2:02:47] Speaker 3: I ain't blaming Kobe. Kobe went right back at him.
[2:02:49] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, when he.
[2:02:50] Speaker 2: Got his nose broke, it ain't been serious.
[2:02:52] Speaker 3: I ain't blaming Kobe. What are you.
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: Are you listening to the words that's coming out of
[2:02:56] Speaker 1: my mouth?
[2:02:57] Speaker 3: He went back hard at him.
[2:02:59] Speaker 1: You said they get back... Once I watched... How about this?
[2:03:04] Speaker 2: I tried again.
[2:03:05] Speaker 3: Once as a player, watched Kobe get his nose broke,
[2:03:09] Speaker 3: I didn't want to go hard no more.
[2:03:11] Speaker 1: How about that? Does that make better sense?
[2:03:13] Speaker 4: That's because you saw.
[2:03:15] Speaker 1: Soft, soft, soft, soft, soft.
[2:03:17] Speaker 3: Everybody watch this man get his nose broke. Everybody watch
[2:03:22] Speaker 3: the man get his nose broke for going hard. Him
[2:03:25] Speaker 3: and Dwyane Wade going hard. He got his nose broke
[2:03:28] Speaker 3: and everybody's like, ooh, I don't want that.
[2:03:29] Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good.
[2:03:30] Speaker 2: We're just going to shoot some jumpers.
[2:03:32] Speaker 4: I'm scared.
[2:03:33] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:03:33] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:03:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, because Kobe.
[2:03:37] Speaker 3: Going to play. Nigga, I ain't got Kobe. I'm going
[2:03:39] Speaker 3: to miss three, four weeks. That's what everybody's saying. I
[2:03:41] Speaker 3: don't got that kind of blood. I'm not the mamba.
[2:03:43] Speaker 3: I don't just play through injuries like that.
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: So they started.
[2:03:47] Speaker 3: Not playing hard.
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: We'll see how this All-Star game turns out. We'll also
[2:03:51] Speaker 1: have a 5 p.m. Eastern start due to the Winter Olympics.
[2:03:54] Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there. But we got one last thing.
[2:03:56] Speaker 1: Where's it at this year? The Winter Olympics. I don't know, Gil.
[2:03:59] Speaker 1: Not into it, though.
[2:04:01] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, why would you even? Uh-oh.
[2:04:03] Speaker 1: NBC has the game. NBC has the Olympics back. The
[2:04:06] Speaker 1: game is a game. So one last thing quickly before
[2:04:09] Speaker 1: we head out for today. So Spurs handed the Bulls
[2:04:11] Speaker 1: their first loss of the season Monday. Josh Giddey, their
[2:04:14] Speaker 1: first home loss of the season Monday. Josh Giddey was
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: sidelined for the game while dealing with a sprained right ankle.
[2:04:19] Speaker 1: The sprain coming as a result of arguably the best
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: play of the season thus far. Let's take a look
[2:04:24] Speaker 1: if we can, please. So we got some Cavs in
[2:04:26] Speaker 1: here for you, Shook. So during the third quarter, the
[2:04:28] Speaker 1: Bulls lost to the Cavs Saturday in Cleveland. DeAndre Hunter
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: caught the Gidler flipping, ankle break and crossover that sent
[2:04:34] Speaker 1: Gidler falling to the ground. Hunter finished the play with
[2:04:36] Speaker 1: a two-handed dunk on Patrick Williams. He was limping after
[2:04:40] Speaker 1: the play but remained in the game. He wasn't limping
[2:04:42] Speaker 1: but remained in the game. Let's watch again. Oh! He
[2:04:44] Speaker 1: tweaked that?
[2:04:45] Speaker 3: No, you don't get hurt after that.
[2:04:47] Speaker 1: So Giddey offered an explanation. He said, as he made
[2:04:50] Speaker 1: the crossover, I was on my tippy toes and tried
[2:04:52] Speaker 1: to change direction, and my ankle kind of just rolled
[2:04:54] Speaker 1: a little bit. But, yeah, it's not a good highlight
[2:04:56] Speaker 1: reel to be on. Good move by him.
[2:05:01] Speaker 3: Is that a good move? It's a good move by DeAndre.
[2:05:03] Speaker 3: That was a good move, yeah. This is what, you remember,
[2:05:06] Speaker 3: you two young, we know. Oh, ankle breakers, you know
[2:05:10] Speaker 3: what I mean? Ankle breaker highlights, they used to make,
[2:05:12] Speaker 3: the NBA used to make these ankle breakers. And that,
[2:05:15] Speaker 3: they used to be ankle breakers. He did that to us.
[2:05:18] Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway was on there a lot.
[2:05:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim, yeah, Tim.
[2:05:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim.
[2:05:22] Speaker 2: Wop, wop, you.
[2:05:24] Speaker 1: Anderson. Anderson. Kenny Anderson.
[2:05:27] Speaker 3: You can't be hurt out there.
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know what you're saying. You got
[2:05:33] Speaker 1: trip ground. You got to follow him.
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: That's a four.
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: That's a four.
[2:05:37] Speaker 1: I got a two for one. For what?
[2:05:41] Speaker 3: Crossed you and dunked on your team, man. And dunked
[2:05:44] Speaker 3: on your team, man. And then you get helped off
[2:05:47] Speaker 3: the floor. You didn't act hurt.
[2:05:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like, what's the name that got dunked on?
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: John Collins got dunked on last year and got the concussion.
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: All right, yo, you can't leave the game, dog.
[2:05:55] Speaker 3: I'm not living out of here after that shit. Anthony
[2:05:57] Speaker 3: Edwards dunked on John Collins? Yeah.
[2:05:59] Speaker 1: Man. Oh, yeah.
[2:06:01] Speaker 2: I'm going to go out the game with a concussion.
[2:06:03] Speaker 3: That was bad. I'm not living out of here like that, dog.
[2:06:06] Speaker 2: Can't leave the game, man.
[2:06:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't leave the game like that.
[2:06:09] Speaker 1: He got helped off. Like, you ain't even going your
[2:06:12] Speaker 1: own power. Came back in the game. No, no, no, no.
[2:06:15] Speaker 1: Show that Australian resilience.
[2:06:17] Speaker 2: He better. He had to. Put it like this.
[2:06:21] Speaker 3: When it comes to a highlight, the atmosphere, this is
[2:06:26] Speaker 3: like some high school shit that we see on YouTube, right?
[2:06:31] Speaker 3: Where every time you watch it, you catch something different. Right?
[2:06:35] Speaker 1: You watch it.
[2:06:36] Speaker 3: You got old Wilson throwing his shit like, yeah!
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: It's over. It was over. Can we watch it again, please?
[2:06:44] Speaker 1: It's over.
[2:06:45] Speaker 3: Watch, you just got everybody doing something different. But when
[2:06:49] Speaker 3: I was on.
[2:06:50] Speaker 1: Hold on. Yo, what I want to see is, like,
[2:06:51] Speaker 1: is I got a question. Have y'all seen any reaction
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: from the Bulls, bitch?
[2:07:02] Speaker 6: Is there a camera when he did this to his...
[2:07:06] Speaker 6: And what did his teammates.
[2:07:10] Speaker 2: Any of his teammates do this?
[2:07:15] Speaker 1: You just sitting there watching just all of it and
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: it's just... Because you was on the team when... My
[2:07:20] Speaker 1: buddy touched Earth twice.
[2:07:22] Speaker 4: Oh, the Macarena?
[2:07:23] Speaker 1: Yes, the Macarena. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
[2:07:28] Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel touched Earth twice on a date bench. The Macarena.
[2:07:31] Speaker 2: That nigga was like, that was scary.
[2:07:33] Speaker 3: He touched Earth.
[2:07:34] Speaker 1: I was like, oh. And the Macarena came as a
[2:07:37] Speaker 1: result of that.
[2:07:39] Speaker 2: That was the dance they did every time he turned
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: his head.
[2:07:42] Speaker 3: They were like, hey.
[2:07:46] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[2:07:47] Speaker 3: Yo.
[2:07:48] Speaker 2: So we try to be I've seen some bad ones.
[2:07:51] Speaker 2: And then that was bad. That was bad because you
[2:07:54] Speaker 2: got stopped.
[2:07:55] Speaker 3: Yeah. Usually you get your hurt angle. Somebody just rhyming down.
[2:07:57] Speaker 3: You try to play it off. The game had to
[2:07:59] Speaker 3: stop because he's down.
[2:08:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:08:01] Speaker 3: And he got a lip off the hip.
[2:08:03] Speaker 2: Look at him.
[2:08:05] Speaker 1: Look at him. Here he goes. Here he goes.
[2:08:07] Speaker 6: Look at him. Nobody got hurt. And I don't know
[2:08:09] Speaker 6: if this is right NBA. I don't know if this
[2:08:11] Speaker 6: is the NBA.
[2:08:11] Speaker 1: Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy.
[2:08:13] Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you right now. You come in
[2:08:16] Speaker 6: that locker room after the fact.
[2:08:19] Speaker 2: Hey, young fella, you all right? Hey, one of us
[2:08:22] Speaker 2: bet to be like.
[2:08:24] Speaker 3: Hey, young fella, you all right?
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: Why? He couldn't be a wizard.
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: I can tell you that.
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: He couldn't have been a nugget, neither.
[2:08:32] Speaker 2: It's over for him. What?
[2:08:34] Speaker 1: What? Man, can you imagine Chuckie Atkinson, that motherfucker boy?
[2:08:40] Speaker 1: Chuckie was on that team.
[2:08:41] Speaker 6: Could you imagine Chuckie Atkins and you didn't, man, so
[2:08:45] Speaker 6: Chuckie was when he touched earth?
[2:08:47] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: Say less.
[2:08:48] Speaker 3: Chuckie, you got Chuckie, you got Brendan Haywood, and you
[2:08:53] Speaker 3: got Jared, you got them three.
[2:08:55] Speaker 1: You think, like, that's what I'm saying.
[2:08:57] Speaker 2: Every time he come across, he start talking.
[2:09:02] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:09:05] Speaker 3: There was nothing he could do. All year?
[2:09:06] Speaker 2: There was nothing he could do.
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: It was done. They didn't care. Like, you couldn't argue
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: with him? Yeah. Like, imagine as you in the game.
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: Come on, man. You got to get around that pick
[2:09:16] Speaker 1: and roll. I got you. As soon as you serve.
[2:09:21] Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, man.
[2:09:22] Speaker 2: That man touched both hands.
[2:09:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:09:26] Speaker 2: But, yeah, that's up there. That's up there. That's up
[2:09:29] Speaker 2: there because he got hurt.
[2:09:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:09:31] Speaker 2: And your teammate got flushed on. And he got dunked on. Yeah,
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: you got two.
[2:09:35] Speaker 3: I can tell you this.
[2:09:36] Speaker 2: You got dunked on and nobody cares.
[2:09:38] Speaker 1: At all. No.
[2:09:40] Speaker 3: You got posters and no justices.
[2:09:42] Speaker 1: That was the least important part of that. Absolutely.
[2:09:47] Speaker 3: You got a foul.
[2:09:48] Speaker 2: He dropped your teammate.
[2:09:50] Speaker 6: Listen, he dropped your teammate to go to the basket.
[2:09:53] Speaker 6: He needs to be looking up at the motherfucking rim like,
[2:09:55] Speaker 6: God damn, that was a nice move.
[2:09:58] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:09:58] Speaker 1: Hey, that's all he would have been saying. He would
[2:10:00] Speaker 1: have limped to the free.
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: Throw line like, damn, I got to make two? Okay,
[2:10:04] Speaker 2: what's worse? If you, that person, being giddy Or being
[2:10:12] Speaker 2: a young fella.
[2:10:13] Speaker 1: Fucked up the ages.
[2:10:15] Speaker 3: Or being Brent who got dunked on and his body
[2:10:19] Speaker 3: hit the floor.
[2:10:20] Speaker 2: The lob by DeAndre Jordan.
[2:10:21] Speaker 1: Brandon Knight. Which one?
[2:10:23] Speaker 3: He was done after.
[2:10:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, which one?
[2:10:26] Speaker 3: You don't want to be that one.
[2:10:28] Speaker 1: That Jason Terry one was bad, too, in Boston. Jason
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: Terry on the run? Brandon Knight, y'all. Brandon Knight was tough.
[2:10:33] Speaker 2: That was a dead body. Yeah, that was tough. That
[2:10:35] Speaker 2: was a, like.
[2:10:36] Speaker 3: That's when memes just started, too.
[2:10:38] Speaker 2: They should have put an outline on the court.
[2:10:40] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: And had to be here permanently.
[2:10:42] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:10:42] Speaker 2: Here lies this man's soul.
[2:10:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be a dead body.
[2:10:46] Speaker 1: Here lies this man's soul.
[2:10:48] Speaker 3: Why are you down there? Listen, man.
[2:10:52] Speaker 2: It looked like he dunked him in the ball.
[2:10:54] Speaker 1: No, no, no. It looked like he threw him in
[2:10:56] Speaker 1: first and then the ball behind it.
[2:10:58] Speaker 3: Listen, man. That was violent.
[2:11:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, he hit that floor.
[2:11:03] Speaker 3: He had no reason to be jumping either.
[2:11:05] Speaker 2: It looked like he bounced.
[2:11:05] Speaker 1: He hit that motherfucking.
[2:11:08] Speaker 6: You know the impact you had to have, dude, for
[2:11:10] Speaker 6: you not to bounce off the ground?
[2:11:15] Speaker 3: Hey, man.
[2:11:17] Speaker 1: On that note, good place for us to wrap up.
[2:11:19] Speaker 6: And it goes back to my saying, listen, man, stop
[2:11:22] Speaker 6: minding people's business, man. All the time. Listen, you get caught,
[2:11:27] Speaker 6: you minding people's business around that rim, and you ain't got...
[2:11:30] Speaker 6: Those are the results.
[2:11:31] Speaker 2: And why you dunking him?
[2:11:32] Speaker 6: Minding my business, man. Mind your business. Stay out your business.
[2:11:36] Speaker 6: Stay out my business, dawg. Jason Terry, Brandon Knight, all them. Hey,
[2:11:41] Speaker 6: stay out of grown folks' business, man.
[2:11:44] Speaker 2: Do what you get paid for. Your job ain't to
[2:11:46] Speaker 2: try to block shots.
[2:11:47] Speaker 3: You want to take no charge.
[2:11:48] Speaker 1: You want none of this, but you can be a
[2:11:50] Speaker 1: charge agent, man.
[2:11:51] Speaker 3: Like I tell people this. New NBA, I'm going to
[2:12:01] Speaker 3: tell you, if you see Anthony Edwards go drive to
[2:12:03] Speaker 3: the basket, he do this shit, he get the two,
[2:12:05] Speaker 3: and he get this bitch here, there's been enough people
[2:12:08] Speaker 3: over his first six years, when he get that bitch here,
[2:12:11] Speaker 3: move the.
[2:12:12] Speaker 6: Fuck out the way. Because you're going on the fucking poster.
[2:12:15] Speaker 6: You're going on the highlights tonight.
[2:12:17] Speaker 2: Two feet here, move.
[2:12:21] Speaker 4: Sometimes you be stuck in those situations.
[2:12:22] Speaker 2: No, you don't. You don't watch basketball then.
[2:12:24] Speaker 1: You see that man coming. I'm telling you right now. Man.
[2:12:27] Speaker 3: I block shots. I foul people. Vince used to come
[2:12:30] Speaker 3: to the basket. Guess what my dumb ass used to do?
[2:12:34] Speaker 2: It wasn't dumb.
[2:12:34] Speaker 1: Certain motherfuckers come. It wasn't dumb. It wasn't dumb.
[2:12:37] Speaker 2: Hey, you got it.
[2:12:38] Speaker 6: Kobe drives to that motherfucking basket when he was that young. Listen,
[2:12:41] Speaker 6: if I can't get you on the ground, I'm moving
[2:12:43] Speaker 6: the fuck out the way, bruh. You're not feeling, I'm
[2:12:47] Speaker 6: not going to be on there. God damn, K. Like,
[2:12:49] Speaker 6: you see teammates looking at me in the locker room
[2:12:53] Speaker 6: scared to say something because you know how I'm going
[2:12:55] Speaker 6: to react.
[2:12:56] Speaker 1: Like, no.
[2:12:58] Speaker 6: Like, I'm getting the fuck out of the way. If
[2:13:00] Speaker 6: I can't slap you across your arm, hit the ball
[2:13:03] Speaker 6: out your hand, I'm swiping from over here.
[2:13:05] Speaker 4: But those is live, though. You sometimes jump to try
[2:13:08] Speaker 4: to jump it.
[2:13:09] Speaker 3: No. And I jump.
[2:13:10] Speaker 1: A tip jam is different. A tip jam is different.
[2:13:12] Speaker 3: I jump high than both of them dudes, Nick. Nick,
[2:13:16] Speaker 3: I jump high than both of them dudes. Brandon Knight,
[2:13:19] Speaker 3: Jason Terry, I jump high than all of them.
[2:13:21] Speaker 1: I don't know why.
[2:13:21] Speaker 3: I'm getting the fuck.
[2:13:22] Speaker 1: Out of them. Wait. That ball in there, I see
[2:13:25] Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan.
[2:13:26] Speaker 3: I'm moving.
[2:13:28] Speaker 2: That's just what the fuck it was, bro.
[2:13:29] Speaker 1: It's not safe.
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: It's not safe under there. It's not safe. Some stage advice?
[2:13:33] Speaker 6: This is something from somebody when I listen to this.
[2:13:36] Speaker 6: I used to wonder when some dudes, they seem to listen.
[2:13:38] Speaker 3: Like a bad number.
[2:13:39] Speaker 1: I'm laughing at you. Why would you stand under there?
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: Trying to take a goddamn charge.
[2:13:45] Speaker 3: Trying to look good on film.
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: Carlos Boozer's coming down on the fast break, and I
[2:13:52] Speaker 1: tried to take a charge.
[2:13:54] Speaker 2: That's fake hustle, bro. That was your last one.
[2:13:57] Speaker 3: Boo! That was your last one. Boo! And one!
[2:13:59] Speaker 2: Wait, don't do this.
[2:14:03] Speaker 1: And they be huffing them. Like, I was mad as shit. Like, wait. Like,
[2:14:07] Speaker 1: you know, you sit there and take it, but I'm inside.
[2:14:10] Speaker 1: And he leave with it. Boom, boom, boom. We fall.
[2:14:12] Speaker 1: And then right. Boom. I mean, hold the fuck on.
[2:14:16] Speaker 2: You should laugh at him, too.
[2:14:18] Speaker 1: What the fuck is wrong with you?
[2:14:19] Speaker 3: Not a play stop, not a talking, not a get
[2:14:23] Speaker 3: to the free throw.
[2:14:24] Speaker 1: Line, shit like that.
[2:14:25] Speaker 4: I'm here to make it, you dumbass.
[2:14:26] Speaker 2: See, dude, I wasn't taking over.
[2:14:27] Speaker 4: On that team, I done did that a couple times.
[2:14:29] Speaker 1: I don't think I took one real charge in the NBA.
[2:14:32] Speaker 3: I have.
[2:14:33] Speaker 1: A real one?
[2:14:34] Speaker 2: No, not a chance.
[2:14:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that.
[2:14:36] Speaker 2: And to see you coming to me.
[2:14:37] Speaker 3: A charge.
[2:14:37] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:14:38] Speaker 2: No, they get you dunked on.
[2:14:39] Speaker 3: I was trying to look good on tape. See that effort?
[2:14:42] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Good place for us to wrap up on
[2:14:44] Speaker 1: this lovely Wednesday. We appreciate all y'all in the chat
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: for pulling up, supporting the show. I appreciate everybody on
[2:14:52] Speaker 1: this couch. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena
[2:14:55] Speaker 1: presented by Underdog. We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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