# The Los Angeles Lakers' ROCK BOTTOM Blows Up Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 5 Dec 2024, 2 h 31 min.

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The Los Angeles Lakers' ROCK BOTTOM Blows Up Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Los Angeles Lakers embarrassing loss to the Miami Heat last night and break down who deserves the blame for the Lake Show's struggles this season between LeBron James, Anthony Davis, JJ Redick and the Lakers' Front Office. Next, they break down the Minnesota Timberwolves hot streak as of late after ripping off back to back blowout wins over the Lakers & Clippers and debate if Anthony Edwards provided enough spark to carry this team deep into the NBA Playoffs. Then, they react to Payton Pritchard clapping back at Gil's comments on the Celtics & their 6th Man of the Year Candidate and debate if Pritchard's stellar season is going under the radar due to the Celtics loaded roster before giving their take on James Harden refusing to sit out back to back games as he strives to continue his resurgent season. Finally, Gil & The Crew react to another injury to Kevin Durant and debate if the snake bitten Big 3 of the Phoenix Suns will ever be able to contend in the West. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Get Your Ugly Sweaters HERE!! - https://gilsarenamerch.com/collections/holiday-sweaters Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Watch Warriors vs Timberwolves With The Gil's Arena Crew This Sunday on PlaybackTV! https://playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:55 Mad Max Wants Smoke Over $10k 0:15:47 Payton Pritchard FIRES BACK At Gil 0:35:55 Pritchard's Stellar Season Is Going Under The Radar 0:40:23 T-Wolves Back To Back Blowouts 0:43:00 James Harden Is Re-Writing His Legacy 1:07:46 How Load Management Is Screwing Players 1:12:51 The Lakers Hit Rock Bottom 1:20:54 Shop Gil's Arena Merch NOW!! 1:49:06 Gil & Nick Battle over Young Kobe vs MJ 1:53:00 Devin Booker's Underrated Legacy 2:02:48 Another Injury For KD 2:09:11 Jalen Johnson's Ceiling 2:15:54 MostlyFans 2:22:47 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gilberto's Arena presented by Underdog. I see
[0:14] Speaker 1: you brought out the poncho. We did a playback watch
[0:17] Speaker 1: party a few weeks ago. You seen somebody rocking the
[0:20] Speaker 1: Knicks poncho. You said you got to go ahead and
[0:22] Speaker 1: get the authentic with the hoodie.
[0:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[0:24] Speaker 1: It's all good. Still showing support to this side.
[0:27] Speaker 3: Unwavering. Never. We never lose.
[0:31] Speaker 1: We never lose. We never lose, baby.
[0:34] Speaker 2: That's going to get us back to where we need
[0:42] Speaker 2: to be.
[0:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's wild. They lost by 41 yesterday.
[0:47] Speaker 2: Who lost by 41?
[0:48] Speaker 3: Who did?
[0:49] Speaker 2: Lakers.
[0:49] Speaker 1: For you to come in here with that on?
[0:51] Speaker 3: Yes.
[0:51] Speaker 2: Lakers played?
[0:52] Speaker 3: Lost by 40. You ain't black no more.
[0:54] Speaker 2: For you to come in here with that on after that?
[0:57] Speaker 1: The Lakers had a game?
[0:58] Speaker 2: Yeah. Damn.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:00] Speaker 2: 41. Let me check the scoreboard.
[1:02] Speaker 3: What is positivity?
[1:03] Speaker 1: LeBron James had 29.
[1:05] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:06] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:07] Speaker 3: He won.
[1:09] Speaker 1: No, that doesn't say LeBron James.
[1:12] Speaker 3: Technically.
[1:12] Speaker 2: No.
[1:13] Speaker 1: I read well.
[1:14] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[1:15] Speaker 2: Like, back in the 80s? I read well. No, we're
[1:17] Speaker 2: talking about 2024. December 4th. Back in the 80s, this red....
[1:24] Speaker 3: The same letters. It was like.
[1:26] Speaker 2: Magic Kareem, right? And then it was Shaq and Kobe.
[1:30] Speaker 2: And then for 20 years, it was just Kobe. And then,
[1:33] Speaker 2: you know, LeBron came, and then it basically says LeBron.
[1:35] Speaker 3: It's like the logo for LeBron James. LeBron Jack.
[1:38] Speaker 4: I dig the logic, but, I mean, the fact that
[1:42] Speaker 4: they lost by a King's ransom yesterday.
[1:45] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[1:45] Speaker 2: Unfortunately scored. Ooh, they got their ass whooped, boy. Both
[1:48] Speaker 2: of these L.A. teams lost by a combined, like, 2,000
[1:51] Speaker 2: points yesterday.
[1:52] Speaker 3: Man, them others.
[1:53] Speaker 1: That's why I got on this Dodgers blue, okay? Our
[1:56] Speaker 1: World Series champion. We stay positive on this side.
[1:59] Speaker 3: You have to. After that.
[2:01] Speaker 1: But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always,
[2:03] Speaker 1: we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us, rocking
[2:05] Speaker 1: that Lakers poncho.
[2:06] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[2:08] Speaker 1: We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young,
[2:11] Speaker 1: back in the building.
[2:12] Speaker 2: Nick, you know it's too hot in here.
[2:15] Speaker 1: For that jacket. We're going to see how long you
[2:16] Speaker 1: keep it on for.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Damn. You know what?
[2:19] Speaker 1: 15 minutes.
[2:20] Speaker 3: I'm sure wearing my number one dad shirt.
[2:23] Speaker 1: Harley Davidson.
[2:23] Speaker 3: Because I do feel like that after whooping your ass
[2:26] Speaker 3: on man in front of my kids. In front of
[2:28] Speaker 3: my kids, I whooped your ass.
[2:29] Speaker 2: I know that's a lie because you sent your kids
[2:30] Speaker 2: to sleep.
[2:32] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[2:33] Speaker 2: I did some good dad shit.
[2:34] Speaker 3: Put them to bed, whooped your ass right after.
[2:36] Speaker 1: You know? And we got former number one pick, Kenya Martin,
[2:42] Speaker 1: back in.
[2:42] Speaker 3: The building with.
[2:48] Speaker 2: Us.
[2:48] Speaker 3: What's happening?
[2:50] Speaker 4: I'm just going to tuck my mic in. Y'all know
[2:52] Speaker 4: I got something to say, too. Like I always do.
[2:56] Speaker 4: That's very clever, right?
[2:58] Speaker 2: And creative. So y'all can be that fucking creative, right?
[3:02] Speaker 2: With that, who I deal for with the plain goddamn
[3:06] Speaker 2: gray sweater? Oh, with the Christmas? Like, the Christmas one.
[3:10] Speaker 2: I told y'all.
[3:10] Speaker 1: I was like, that don't look like it.
[3:12] Speaker 2: I know I said I didn't care, but God damn. Like,
[3:15] Speaker 2: y'all can be that creative with everything else we do
[3:17] Speaker 2: around this motherfucker. And we come down to that shit.
[3:20] Speaker 2: I'm looking at that like.
[3:21] Speaker 4: Look at that shit. Ain't nobody going to buy that shit.
[3:25] Speaker 3: No, it seems true.
[3:27] Speaker 2: You're right.
[3:27] Speaker 1: You have a legitimate complaint.
[3:29] Speaker 6: Right.
[3:29] Speaker 1: Because Paolo Redhead.
[3:32] Speaker 2: We know who picked the sweaters out, right? We know
[3:34] Speaker 2: who picked the sweaters out. And then that becomes a
[3:36] Speaker 2: problem because we see how they decorate. Yeah. That's what I'm...
[3:39] Speaker 2: They decorate with.
[3:41] Speaker 3: For.
[3:41] Speaker 2: Every holiday we didn't have on set for the last
[3:44] Speaker 2: three seasons, it's been immaculate.
[3:45] Speaker 1: Immaculate.
[3:46] Speaker 2: Everything else is immaculate around this motherfucker.
[3:49] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[3:49] Speaker 2: Right? The black Santa.
[3:50] Speaker 1: We got the black Santa. We got the black Santa around.
[3:52] Speaker 2: This bitch and all that, right?
[3:55] Speaker 3: So... Ho, ho, ho.
[3:57] Speaker 4: I looked at that shit. They sent that shit today.
[3:59] Speaker 4: I wanted to say something in the chat. I'm like,
[4:00] Speaker 4: I'm going to wait until I get on. I'm... Like,
[4:03] Speaker 4: who out there, like, that shit plain as a... That
[4:06] Speaker 4: don't say nothing, Kenyon. It's just a gray with a
[4:08] Speaker 4: Christmas tree.
[4:09] Speaker 1: A gray with a fucking Christmas tree on it.
[4:11] Speaker 2: I'm the biggest Grinch in this bitch.
[4:16] Speaker 1: They had no thought.
[4:17] Speaker 2: None whatsoever, right? It's just like the fucking sign over here.
[4:22] Speaker 2: They got the fake dog on the motherfucking front of me.
[4:26] Speaker 2: They did put freedom in front of me. Yeah, they
[4:27] Speaker 2: absolutely put the fucking fake stuffed animal name on the
[4:30] Speaker 2: motherfucking thing in front of me. And it's fucking plain-ass gray.
[4:33] Speaker 2: Somebody buying that shit.
[4:35] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
[4:36] Speaker 2: That's some good ass.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Wasn't it gray?
[4:37] Speaker 2: They just changed the color. Yeah, that shit.
[4:39] Speaker 3: Wasn't it gray?
[4:40] Speaker 2: Yes.
[4:41] Speaker 3: Well, they upgraded it.
[4:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[4:43] Speaker 3: They got upgraded. They was like, you know what? Yeah,
[4:45] Speaker 3: you right.
[4:45] Speaker 2: They didn't even ask for my favorite color. Like, when
[4:47] Speaker 2: he's making one of my favorite colors, let's pick some shit.
[4:51] Speaker 3: This is the funny part.
[4:53] Speaker 2: After the complaint, they was like, yeah, gray was bad.
[4:56] Speaker 3: Let's just change it to red.
[4:57] Speaker 1: They didn't even read. Yo shit was red.
[5:02] Speaker 3: That ain't red.
[5:03] Speaker 2: That's some TikTok type shit.
[5:06] Speaker 3: That's a real shit. Go Cavs.
[5:10] Speaker 2: Look like Texas Orange to me.
[5:13] Speaker 1: We will get that rectified next holiday season and when
[5:16] Speaker 1: we drop our Kwanzaa line.
[5:19] Speaker 2: That should have been Josiah's for sure. At the risk
[5:23] Speaker 2: of getting my ass kicked, can you? Every talent did
[5:25] Speaker 2: have creative input on their sweaters.
[5:28] Speaker 1: But damn.
[5:30] Speaker 3: I know I said I didn't care. Like, I don't care.
[5:34] Speaker 2: Just make some shit. Just hear me out. What about
[5:38] Speaker 2: this says Kenyon?
[5:39] Speaker 3: That says a lot. Just humor me.
[5:42] Speaker 2: Like, if somebody has a real legitimate, like, logical fucking answer,
[5:47] Speaker 2: I'm all in.
[5:48] Speaker 3: When you think about it, I said logical.
[5:51] Speaker 1: I didn't ask you.
[5:51] Speaker 3: When you brother knowledge, if you put anything, you don't
[5:54] Speaker 3: fight it. You're exempt from answering this. So if you
[5:57] Speaker 3: don't put anything, you would have fought it. Anybody but
[5:59] Speaker 3: Nick can answer this question. No, you're very knowledgeable.
[6:02] Speaker 2: So if they don't put anything, you would have been like, Brother,
[6:06] Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't be putting Deebo signs on here.
[6:08] Speaker 3: It don't have to be Deebo.
[6:09] Speaker 2: Resourcing bullying, and I'm not a bully, brother. I'm fine
[6:12] Speaker 2: with that. You'd have been all kind of... No.
[6:14] Speaker 1: There was some thought into it. And that's your Lexi.
[6:17] Speaker 3: That's your Lexi. That's your Lexi.
[6:19] Speaker 2: Nope. No, let's go down the line, though, right? I
[6:24] Speaker 2: wasn't here with y'all. Let's go down the line.
[6:25] Speaker 3: Whoever picked yours, pick Lexi's, too.
[6:27] Speaker 2: I love Lexi.
[6:28] Speaker 1: She's a girl.
[6:29] Speaker 3: Boom.
[6:30] Speaker 1: All they added was more.
[6:32] Speaker 2: Snow and snowflakes.
[6:35] Speaker 3: They try to make it into a heart. They try
[6:37] Speaker 3: to make the.
[6:37] Speaker 2: They try to make it into a heart.
[6:40] Speaker 1: It's like they ran out of time with Kenyon. It's like,
[6:42] Speaker 1: all right, Lexi. Kenyon just erased all the extra shit.
[6:45] Speaker 3: Here you go.
[6:47] Speaker 2: Boom! Huh?
[6:54] Speaker 1: Lexi's will have Ryan's back.
[6:56] Speaker 3: They making up shit.
[6:57] Speaker 2: Hey, I can tell y'all now. Y'all can take mine
[6:59] Speaker 2: off the website. Don't sell that bullshit.
[7:02] Speaker 3: Kanye just asked for his sweater.
[7:03] Speaker 2: Take that shit down. Turn it up and buy it.
[7:06] Speaker 2: I hope y'all didn't print them motherfuckers yet because that
[7:08] Speaker 2: was a waste of money.
[7:10] Speaker 1: So you can go to gillsarenamerch.com. Before they pull the sweater,
[7:14] Speaker 1: you will have a collectible vintage Kenya Martin Christmas sweater.
[7:17] Speaker 2: That probably won't have his autograph on it because he
[7:19] Speaker 2: ain't signing that shit.
[7:20] Speaker 4: I won't acknowledge it. You buy it, ask me to
[7:24] Speaker 4: sign it. You might get cussed out.
[7:25] Speaker 1: Great fucking possibilities. For all the fans out there, we
[7:29] Speaker 1: still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version,
[7:31] Speaker 1: vertical mobile version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.
[7:34] Speaker 1: Just make sure you watch.
[7:37] Speaker 2: Hey, the way it should go, if you buy one
[7:41] Speaker 2: of theirs, they'll give you.
[7:41] Speaker 3: That motherfucker for free. That's the way it should go.
[7:44] Speaker 3: This is all they did with Kenyon.
[7:45] Speaker 2: Right here. That's all the fuck they did right here.
[7:52] Speaker 2: And put some presents around that motherfucker. This is what
[7:57] Speaker 2: they did. You're absolutely correct.
[8:00] Speaker 3: This is exactly what they did.
[8:03] Speaker 1: You buy one of theirs, you get mine for free.
[8:05] Speaker 2: You buy one of theirs, they're going to throw mine in.
[8:10] Speaker 2: Use it as a dog blanket or something. Put that
[8:16] Speaker 2: shit on freedom since he more important around this motherfucker.
[8:20] Speaker 2: Put that shit on freedom.
[8:22] Speaker 1: If you'd like to get a collectible vintage.
[8:25] Speaker 1: Already vintage. Already vintage Kenyan sweater. Go to gillsaredamerch.com. But
[8:29] Speaker 1: as a reminder, we got two viewing options for you.
[8:31] Speaker 1: Our traditional version, vertical mobile version. Just make sure you
[8:35] Speaker 1: watch the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[8:38] Speaker 1: So the Lakers suffered another setback in South Beach, getting
[8:42] Speaker 1: smacked by the Heat. But who really deserves the blame
[8:46] Speaker 1: for the team struggles?
[8:47] Speaker 3: It ain't Darvin' fault.
[8:49] Speaker 1: Like, no.
[8:52] Speaker 3: No, it makes you now want to think about.
[8:55] Speaker 1: All right, man. They just had them just.
[8:59] Speaker 2: What?
[8:59] Speaker 1: All right, so Kenyans, they was like.
[9:01] Speaker 3: See that real quick?
[9:02] Speaker 2: Oh, this fits.
[9:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that shit.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Hmm.
[9:07] Speaker 1: Oh, that look cool.
[9:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. That happened. These things.
[9:10] Speaker 1: You might want to get mine. Yeah, this says Kenyon, right?
[9:14] Speaker 3: Let me put this. Come on, man.
[9:16] Speaker 1: Like, real shit, bro. Let's be honest.
[9:19] Speaker 3: That's a classic right there.
[9:21] Speaker 1: Like, you couldn't have made it.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Classic, yeah.
[9:23] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday in the arena.
[9:27] Speaker 1: They done already clipped this one. We're already off the rails.
[9:31] Speaker 1: Somebody's going to be in their feelings come next week.
[9:32] Speaker 3: But nonetheless.
[9:34] Speaker 1: But who really deserves the blame for the Lakers' team struggles?
[9:36] Speaker 1: Can't blame Darvin. He's not there no more. Can't blame JJ.
[9:39] Speaker 3: He knew.
[9:41] Speaker 1: Can't blame LeBron.
[9:42] Speaker 3: He's the GOAT.
[9:42] Speaker 2: He old. He old.
[9:45] Speaker 3: I don't know. We're going to find out.
[9:47] Speaker 1: The Wolves have won three straight games since Ant-Man called
[9:50] Speaker 1: out the team last week. Is Minnesota's new look squad
[9:53] Speaker 1: finally ready to find their identity? And it previously said
[9:56] Speaker 1: they're soft as hell. We'll see if that's changed recently.
[10:00] Speaker 1: And KD suffered another injury setback this week. How concerned
[10:03] Speaker 1: should the Suns be with the health of their aging superstar? Damn, KD,
[10:07] Speaker 1: we hope you get back out soon. Could be a week,
[10:09] Speaker 1: could be two weeks. We just don't know. Before we
[10:11] Speaker 1: get into all that, as always, the show is brought
[10:13] Speaker 1: to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app.
[10:14] Speaker 1: Use promo code GILL. Get $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus
[10:17] Speaker 1: a special pick-em. As for tonight, GILL has some picks
[10:19] Speaker 1: up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's
[10:22] Speaker 1: take a look. It's a mix of Thursday night football
[10:25] Speaker 1: and NBA action.
[10:27] Speaker 3: It was back-to-back.
[10:28] Speaker 2: Come on, y'all.
[10:30] Speaker 1: So, GILL, you like the running back tandem of Sonic
[10:32] Speaker 1: and Knuckles to go higher on their rushing yards projections
[10:35] Speaker 1: versus the Packers. That's Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery.
[10:37] Speaker 3: It's a good pick.
[10:38] Speaker 1: For you non-knowledgeable NFL fans. They run the shit out
[10:40] Speaker 1: the ball. Michael Porter Jr., higher, 5.5 rebounds. The Nuggets
[10:44] Speaker 1: are at the Cavs. Are you like P.J.
[10:46] Speaker 2: Washington, higher, 19.5 points, rebounds, and assists.
[10:49] Speaker 1: At the Wizards? Yes, the Wizards are the proverbial punching
[10:51] Speaker 1: bag of the league. Everybody gets their numbers against them.
[10:54] Speaker 3: But it might be a blowout, though. But he's going
[10:55] Speaker 3: to play.
[10:56] Speaker 2: I know he's going to play. But combined, though, that's easy.
[10:59] Speaker 1: And Sabonis, Demonta Sabonis, higher, 14.5 points. Ooh, that feels
[11:04] Speaker 1: like a trap. That feels like a trap, don't it?
[11:06] Speaker 1: That's too good to be true, underdog. Which y'all know?
[11:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, they know.
[11:09] Speaker 1: No, I picked those. No, I'm just saying, what does
[11:11] Speaker 1: underdog know? 14 and a half for him?
[11:13] Speaker 2: 14.5.
[11:13] Speaker 1: For him? It just feels... That's sick. You got something
[11:17] Speaker 1: up your sleeve, underdog. How does everybody feel about Gil's
[11:20] Speaker 1: picks tonight, though?
[11:21] Speaker 3: I like... Yeah, I like this.
[11:23] Speaker 2: Everything good?
[11:24] Speaker 4: The one that scared me is the Michael Porter Jr.
[11:26] Speaker 1: Rebound.
[11:27] Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
[11:28] Speaker 1: That scares me.
[11:30] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Everything else, I love everything else.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, that scares me.
[11:38] Speaker 3: Gil, in the poncho, in Sanders, we'll see if that
[11:40] Speaker 3: is good luck.
[11:40] Speaker 4: Yo, because them two running backs, they lying to get
[11:43] Speaker 4: that on one carry.
[11:44] Speaker 1: Like the way they go, right? They lying to get
[11:47] Speaker 1: that on, like, one, two carries.
[11:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know them because that's all Brennan be trying
[11:51] Speaker 2: to use. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Oh, no, they running, no.
[11:54] Speaker 2: If you got a nice running game in football. Yeah,
[11:56] Speaker 2: he tries to run it.
[11:57] Speaker 4: Now, running games are hard to stop on football games, bro. Like,
[12:00] Speaker 4: you got a nice winning game in them games. Oh, yeah,
[12:02] Speaker 4: but that's good picks, though.
[12:03] Speaker 1: So, Gil, in some surprising news, we asked the chat
[12:06] Speaker 1: if they're riding or fading with your picks tonight.
[12:09] Speaker 2: Ooh.
[12:10] Speaker 3: Currently 50-50.
[12:11] Speaker 1: Currently 50-50.
[12:12] Speaker 2: What?
[12:13] Speaker 1: Now it's 49-51 riding.
[12:14] Speaker 3: They're riding?
[12:16] Speaker 2: No, 49% are riding. 51% are not rolling with your picks.
[12:19] Speaker 3: That's good.
[12:19] Speaker 1: But that is an improvement.
[12:20] Speaker 2: That's good.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Mental progress.
[12:22] Speaker 2: Got out of them 70s down to the 60s now.
[12:24] Speaker 1: If you like these picks and want to ride with them,
[12:27] Speaker 1: there's a link in the chat. You go straight to
[12:28] Speaker 1: the app to create. your own entries. As always, we
[12:31] Speaker 1: do Mostly Fans at the end of every program, for
[12:33] Speaker 1: the most part. If you drop a good question in
[12:35] Speaker 1: the chat with the underdog username, we use it.
[12:36] Speaker 2: On this program.
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[12:48] Speaker 1: So we got to talk about situation going on amongst
[12:51] Speaker 1: a couple of retired players. The NBA is a fraternity.
[12:53] Speaker 1: but is not always fraternal. So during summer league, we
[12:57] Speaker 1: had 13-year NBA vet Mad Max Vernon Maxwell on the show.
[13:01] Speaker 1: And he's not afraid to speak his mind, as you
[13:02] Speaker 1: guys know. Very, very frequent MF for you. Got our
[13:07] Speaker 1: episode age-restricted, but Mad Max, we appreciate you because we
[13:10] Speaker 1: know you were really.
[13:11] Speaker 3: About that life.
[13:12] Speaker 1: But apparently another former NBA player borrowed some money from
[13:15] Speaker 1: Mad Max, and he wants his bread back. So let's
[13:18] Speaker 1: take a look at the clip he put out recently.
[13:21] Speaker 3: One thing I want to say.
[13:23] Speaker 5: I want all my NBA brothers, all my NBA brothers,
[13:29] Speaker 5: I want y'all to know one thing about this one
[13:32] Speaker 5: n * * * a that's in our fraternity.
[13:36] Speaker 2: This n * * * a, he a.
[13:38] Speaker 5: Sucker-ass n * * * a.
[13:40] Speaker 2: He ain't s * * *. If this n * * * a.
[13:43] Speaker 5: Call you and ask you for any type of money.
[13:47] Speaker 2: This s * * * is lying.
[13:49] Speaker 5: He's talking about, oh, my s * * * needs
[13:53] Speaker 5: your help, man. You know, I'm going through this divorce
[13:58] Speaker 5: and all this other dumb s * * *. Yeah,
[14:00] Speaker 5: the n * * * a' s name is Vincent.
[14:02] Speaker 2: Ask you.
[14:04] Speaker 5: Do not give that s * * * a f * * *
[14:06] Speaker 5: ing dime. That s * * * is broke. He's
[14:10] Speaker 5: talking about he just got out of divorce. And do
[14:14] Speaker 5: not f * * * with this broke s * * *.
[14:17] Speaker 5: Just owe me $ 10, 000, and I want my money from you.
[14:21] Speaker 1: Yes.
[14:22] Speaker 3: You're broke.
[14:25] Speaker 2: So.
[14:25] Speaker 3: Yo. This guy Logan owes me. Oh, he went, it
[14:28] Speaker 3: was more.
[14:29] Speaker 2: This guy Logan owes me $ 50, 000.
[14:30] Speaker 3: If I don't get it soon, I'm talking. I'm talking.
[14:37] Speaker 2: I'm telling.
[14:40] Speaker 1: Red said he smoked a fool.
[14:42] Speaker 3: You seen Bobby? You seen that motherfucking Bobby? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[14:48] Speaker 1: Who else owe me some money? Hell no, but here
[14:50] Speaker 1: you go.
[14:50] Speaker 3: Shit.
[14:51] Speaker 1: You owe me some money too, motherfucker? I don't know,
[14:53] Speaker 1: but here you go. Did Mad Max go too far
[14:55] Speaker 1: in public calling out Vincent Askew for his 10 racks,
[14:59] Speaker 1: or is it the principalities of the man?
[15:04] Speaker 3: You want his money?
[15:05] Speaker 2: It's... Don't know how long it's been. With Max, it.
[15:09] Speaker 1: Probably felt like it's been.
[15:11] Speaker 2: A couple years or a year now.
[15:13] Speaker 1: Been two weeks.
[15:13] Speaker 3: Changed. Probably seen him buying some Jordans on vacation a
[15:17] Speaker 3: little bit. A woman. Yeah.
[15:21] Speaker 2: He seen him out and about right now. Yeah.
[15:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:28] Speaker 3: Screen calling.
[15:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably going to block the man already. Oh, man.
[15:33] Speaker 2: But then he went on to say you can keep it.
[15:36] Speaker 2: The rest of the interview, the rest of the story,
[15:38] Speaker 2: he went over and told him, you can keep the money,
[15:40] Speaker 2: but then the next breath, man, give me my motherfucking money.
[15:47] Speaker 2: He told him he could keep it. Yeah, yeah. Talked
[15:50] Speaker 2: for like 10 seconds and then right back to it, man,
[15:53] Speaker 2: run me my money, man.
[15:55] Speaker 1: Listen. I want to spend Mad Max money.
[15:58] Speaker 3: Yo.
[15:58] Speaker 2: The fact that.
[16:00] Speaker 3: Hey, man.
[16:00] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
[16:05] Speaker 1: What you gonna do? You don't play with a dude
[16:07] Speaker 1: named Vernon's money. That's what I've learned.
[16:10] Speaker 3: I thought it was more. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. Hey,
[16:12] Speaker 3: Tim Benz.
[16:14] Speaker 2: At this point, it's probably principal because he's like, oh,
[16:17] Speaker 2: you need the money?
[16:18] Speaker 3: All right, bet.
[16:18] Speaker 2: Send it to him. And he's like, all right.
[16:20] Speaker 3: Probably tell him I'll give it back to you like
[16:22] Speaker 3: it's two.
[16:22] Speaker 4: So he can't put no time on it. He can't
[16:24] Speaker 4: put no time on it. Bro, I'll give it back
[16:25] Speaker 4: to you when I can.
[16:26] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Then it's... Still struggling a little bit. Still struggling
[16:32] Speaker 2: a little bit. Right?
[16:33] Speaker 3: Probably told them the whole, man, my woman had left me, man.
[16:36] Speaker 3: She took everything.
[16:37] Speaker 1: They didn't froze the account. They didn't did this, right?
[16:40] Speaker 3: Took everything.
[16:42] Speaker 1: That's why you need to not accept incoming calls like Gil.
[16:45] Speaker 1: Hard man to track down. Gil, you had the vision
[16:47] Speaker 1: very early on. But how often do current or former
[16:49] Speaker 1: players have financial disputes like this? I mean, we've heard stories,
[16:53] Speaker 1: you know, about the team playing. That'd be the weird
[16:57] Speaker 1: one right there.
[16:58] Speaker 2: The fights on the team playing while being active, while
[17:02] Speaker 2: making money. Like, we both get paid on the 1st
[17:06] Speaker 2: and the 14th, right? You just went to Louis Vuitton.
[17:10] Speaker 2: I see the new bag. It just came out. I
[17:12] Speaker 2: just ordered mine. You got yours early, so you must
[17:14] Speaker 2: have hit it before me, and you owe me $ 3, 000? Yeah,
[17:17] Speaker 2: it's principle.
[17:20] Speaker 3: It be principle.
[17:21] Speaker 2: That's usually what it is. It has nothing to do
[17:22] Speaker 2: with the amount.
[17:23] Speaker 1: It's the principle of it. Yeah, that's why we put in, like,
[17:27] Speaker 1: you had to pay your debt before the next flight, right?
[17:30] Speaker 4: Before we got on the plane or when we get
[17:32] Speaker 4: on the plane, before we play any cards... You got
[17:34] Speaker 4: to pay debts, dog.
[17:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
[17:37] Speaker 4: Because you just going to try to play the debt
[17:39] Speaker 4: off where they ain't going to pay it.
[17:42] Speaker 1: Nick, you said you learned a valuable lesson about cars
[17:44] Speaker 1: on planes. Would you care to share that lesson?
[17:46] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. It's a big story. Everybody know
[17:48] Speaker 3: about this. I just don't want to talk about it. Yeah,
[17:50] Speaker 3: that's crazy, man, right? A vet went crazy one day.
[17:54] Speaker 3: Lost his goddamn mind on $ 1, 500. Think it was a
[17:59] Speaker 3: $ 100 million man. Said, if you don't give me $ 1, 500...
[18:03] Speaker 3: It's the principalities Are their teammates, you know not to
[18:10] Speaker 3: loan money to unreliable how tough is.
[18:12] Speaker 1: That conversation I.
[18:28] Speaker 2: It is. When you're close to somebody.
[18:31] Speaker 1: You don't loan former players money. That's what you don't do.
[18:38] Speaker 3: If you don't have a foreign income.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because you see the player every day. The player,
[18:44] Speaker 2: I see you.
[18:46] Speaker 4: Because if not, you're going to break your car windows
[18:47] Speaker 4: or something. You're going to spend the money one way
[18:50] Speaker 4: or another. Or, if it's too much or if it's
[18:55] Speaker 4: too bad, the team will step in. Listen, big one,
[18:58] Speaker 4: they'll take it out to check. Yeah, yeah, give me, hey,
[19:01] Speaker 4: I need this per diem, I need all that.
[19:03] Speaker 2: All that. You can go straight to the team and
[19:05] Speaker 2: be like, yo. Oh, if it's too much, if it's
[19:06] Speaker 2: too bad, we still don't understand. Because especially if it's conflict, right?
[19:09] Speaker 2: If it's conflict within the locker room and on the
[19:11] Speaker 2: plane and all that.
[19:13] Speaker 1: Nah, you know, some of them, we've.
[19:14] Speaker 2: Heard about some of them.
[19:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, take me a hundred thousand.
[19:17] Speaker 2: Per diem in front of everybody. Yeah, them kind. Oh, yeah.
[19:21] Speaker 3: Woo.
[19:22] Speaker 2: We over here arguing about some damn hunt.
[19:26] Speaker 3: I had to give a teammate.
[19:29] Speaker 1: A check for $ 30.
[19:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[19:34] Speaker 4: I already had to go tell him, listen, dude, we
[19:38] Speaker 4: know you wealthy. Go cash the check, dog. Deposit the cash.
[19:43] Speaker 4: Do something with it because you fucking my personal account
[19:46] Speaker 4: over there.
[19:46] Speaker 2: Are they sitting on it?
[19:47] Speaker 1: Sitting on the check.
[19:48] Speaker 2: I'm scared. Like, dude, cash it.
[19:50] Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. You know what?
[19:52] Speaker 2: Give me the check back. I'll go to the bank
[19:53] Speaker 2: and I'll, you know what? I'll come back with the cash.
[19:56] Speaker 2: Here you go.
[19:57] Speaker 1: So without naming names because we like to protect the
[19:59] Speaker 1: innocent on the show as much as we can, what's
[20:01] Speaker 1: the deepest you've seen somebody have to owe somebody else?
[20:04] Speaker 3: Deepest debt you've seen? Well, for me, I've seen not
[20:08] Speaker 3: that much. It was probably like 25, 30. But the
[20:13] Speaker 3: situation was funny because it was Metta World Peace.
[20:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was probably with the Lakers.
[20:16] Speaker 3: It was Metta World Peace. Yeah.
[20:18] Speaker 1: He owed her?
[20:19] Speaker 3: He owed. Oh, okay. But the dude kept playing with him. Like,
[20:23] Speaker 3: you better give me my money. Like, Metta was in
[20:25] Speaker 3: Metta World Peace. It was a couple more jokes, he
[20:29] Speaker 3: turned into Ron Artes real fast. Me and Lou was
[20:33] Speaker 3: looking like, oh, shit, let me move. He said, all right, man,
[20:36] Speaker 3: I told you I'm going to give you your motherfucking money.
[20:38] Speaker 2: I said, hold on. I done been in this situation before.
[20:44] Speaker 1: Everybody done.
[20:47] Speaker 3: He probably got his with him.
[20:49] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[20:50] Speaker 2: Like, he was laughing, like, oh, you know, Metta could
[20:52] Speaker 2: Metta be trying to be peaceful.
[20:53] Speaker 3: He was, like, better on the team. He was on, like,
[20:56] Speaker 3: a one-year deal. It was, like, training camp. He was
[20:59] Speaker 3: still trying to, like, get his contract. So he was
[21:01] Speaker 3: being nice to everybody. This nigga just kept messing with Metta.
[21:06] Speaker 1: But once he got the contract, he turned back to Artest.
[21:09] Speaker 3: Rip the cards up, and this guy didn't do a phase,
[21:12] Speaker 3: about to put his hand. We know Meta got that
[21:14] Speaker 3: strong grip. He grabbed me by the throat.
[21:16] Speaker 2: I said, oh, shit, man. What's the most you've seen
[21:19] Speaker 2: a player owe another player? Yeah.
[21:22] Speaker 3: I'm talking about you, man.
[21:29] Speaker 2: I was owed $ 9, 000.
[21:32] Speaker 3: Celebrating, too.
[21:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, big dog got to give me that money.
[21:36] Speaker 3: That's what happens.
[21:38] Speaker 2: And he wrote that check. Yeah, for the next game,
[21:40] Speaker 2: or the next other thing. Looked at it, it said $ 2, 000. Right?
[21:43] Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, you owe me $ 7, 000.
[21:51] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[21:51] Speaker 2: And I said, you owe me $ 7, 000 more. He was like, nah,
[21:53] Speaker 2: we even. Christian Lincoln about this. It was Jerry Stackhouse.
[22:02] Speaker 2: He lost $ 9, 000. He said he owed $ 2, 000. Take two.
[22:05] Speaker 3: You take the two.
[22:07] Speaker 2: Take two.
[22:08] Speaker 3: The last person that tried to stay in his ground
[22:11] Speaker 3: got choked out. So, Chris' lady was like, just take
[22:14] Speaker 3: the two.
[22:16] Speaker 2: Hey, AJ, appreciate you, big fella. Uh-huh. Who want to play?
[22:25] Speaker 1: I learned quick.
[22:26] Speaker 2: And then, and then, oh, no, someone still owes me money. Mm-hmm.
[22:32] Speaker 1: Would you like to get your Mad Max on right now?
[22:34] Speaker 2: Harvard Grant.
[22:36] Speaker 3: Oh, you're not getting it? Yeah. Harvard Grant, who's me?
[22:40] Speaker 3: Harvard Grant owe me some money.
[22:42] Speaker 2: Damon Jones, I still want my rent money.
[22:44] Speaker 1: Nick, you paid your debt off?
[22:46] Speaker 2: Again? Yeah. You know what I mean?
[22:50] Speaker 3: You never play with us. When I first started, you
[22:52] Speaker 3: were just taking my money. Yeah, she was. Yeah, yeah. Easy, easy.
[22:57] Speaker 3: I played with, like, Earl Boykins.
[23:00] Speaker 2: Uh, Javaris, uh, Calvin Boo. Earl gon' fold on me.
[23:03] Speaker 3: You know what?
[23:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, Calvin Boo. Like, we didn't play.
[23:05] Speaker 1: You know what?
[23:06] Speaker 3: It is people that don't pay back. I know somebody
[23:09] Speaker 3: that don't give back.
[23:10] Speaker 1: Earl fucking don't have a king.
[23:12] Speaker 2: I gave this guy my, uh.
[23:13] Speaker 3: That's what started it. I gave somebody my four-wheeler. He
[23:16] Speaker 3: was like, man, let me take it, man.
[23:17] Speaker 1: Let me use it.
[23:18] Speaker 3: I just got it for my birthday. And it was
[23:20] Speaker 3: a nice good one. You know, it was one of
[23:22] Speaker 3: these nice ones.
[23:23] Speaker 2: Four-wheeler. You remember the four-wheeler, right?
[23:25] Speaker 3: Huh? You remember that?
[23:27] Speaker 1: The four-wheeler gift?
[23:28] Speaker 2: The four-wheeler I got for my birthday. It was nice.
[23:30] Speaker 2: It was brand new.
[23:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. The Hakasaki.
[23:32] Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened to that? The one he shouldn't have
[23:35] Speaker 4: as an NBA player.
[23:35] Speaker 2: That one.
[23:36] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[23:38] Speaker 2: That too, but yeah. The one he shouldn't have as
[23:40] Speaker 2: an NBA player. It was that four-wheeler.
[23:42] Speaker 3: Right, you was playing with the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[23:43] Speaker 2: Somebody said, man, let me use it, man.
[23:45] Speaker 3: I could use it on the form or something. I said,
[23:47] Speaker 3: go ahead. Just bring it back. That was in 2000. 2012.
[23:52] Speaker 1: 2012.
[23:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something like that. So, yeah.
[23:55] Speaker 1: It is now 2024. Have you gotten the four-wheeler back?
[23:57] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
[23:58] Speaker 3: Okay, 12 years later. Well, technically, it wasn't his.
[24:03] Speaker 2: It was Iggy's.
[24:04] Speaker 3: Iggy bought it for him. That's it. Iggy bought it
[24:07] Speaker 3: for him.
[24:08] Speaker 1: I felt once they had the breakup. Took it off
[24:11] Speaker 1: his hands.
[24:12] Speaker 2: She already took everything else. She might take that.
[24:14] Speaker 1: Shit, I'm just holding this.
[24:15] Speaker 3: For you, my man.
[24:17] Speaker 2: Shit. Just going to keep it at my house. It's
[24:19] Speaker 2: like both of ours. Kane, what's the most you've seen
[24:21] Speaker 2: a player owe another player? Oh.
[24:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, right around there, like 40, 50. No, it wasn't
[24:32] Speaker 1: nothing crazy. Like, our games, man. Y'all say that's not
[24:34] Speaker 1: nothing crazy, but. No, it wasn't nothing crazy. To former
[24:37] Speaker 1: bro boys like myself. Denver team.
[24:39] Speaker 3: Denver team.
[24:39] Speaker 4: Like, no, but we hear about them games in Cleveland
[24:41] Speaker 4: and certain other places, like.
[24:43] Speaker 2: Houston has some bad games.
[24:44] Speaker 1: Like, them games was ridiculous.
[24:45] Speaker 3: The James and them.
[24:46] Speaker 2: Like, James, them late on James and them games is crazy.
[24:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, James and them be going crazy.
[24:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, like, we used to hear about the Boston team. Boston, Cleveland, like,
[24:53] Speaker 4: them games they used to have.
[24:54] Speaker 3: That's the weird one, Cleveland.
[24:56] Speaker 2: Like, them dudes play. Because we was playing the playoffs,
[24:58] Speaker 2: and then. Yeah, them dudes play.
[24:59] Speaker 1: It'd be me, Larry, Rich Paul.
[25:03] Speaker 6: Yes.
[25:04] Speaker 3: Damon Jones. Yes. Maverick.
[25:06] Speaker 2: Yes. And they playing the most I've ever seen. 500
[25:09] Speaker 2: a hand. Yeah.
[25:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. So we would get there.
[25:13] Speaker 2: It ain't LeBron sitting here with the $ 100 million shoe contract.
[25:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's everybody there. Like, hey, come on over here
[25:20] Speaker 1: and you sit down.
[25:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, so we start hands at $ 100, and by the
[25:23] Speaker 4: time we land, we might get to $ 500. Might be,
[25:26] Speaker 4: it depends on who's still in the game.
[25:28] Speaker 3: Brother, yeah.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Brother, you, hey, the longer the flight, the higher the
[25:35] Speaker 2: ante gonna get. Brother, when you see that, when you
[25:38] Speaker 2: see about 17,000 in there, what?
[25:42] Speaker 3: Hey, Queens and Jack, Queens and.
[25:44] Speaker 1: Jack together don't look good.
[25:46] Speaker 2: Don't look all that appealing.
[25:49] Speaker 3: Oh, that's the worst.
[25:51] Speaker 2: That's what started ours. Yeah.
[25:53] Speaker 1: That's what's on the line, right?
[25:54] Speaker 3: That's true.
[25:55] Speaker 1: Somebody got out with something they.
[25:57] Speaker 2: Me?
[25:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[25:58] Speaker 2: No, first Earl. Of course. Earl.
[26:00] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Because Earl was so.
[26:01] Speaker 3: Of course. I'm the dealer. Flipped over.
[26:03] Speaker 2: Boom! Right?
[26:04] Speaker 3: Earl.
[26:05] Speaker 2: Earl.
[26:06] Speaker 1: Javeb like... Woo!
[26:08] Speaker 3: That's all it takes.
[26:09] Speaker 2: You hear that?
[26:09] Speaker 3: That's all it takes.
[26:10] Speaker 2: Oh, you already know.
[26:11] Speaker 3: You calculated. Oh, he used to.
[26:12] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, he got... Three I know what I
[26:15] Speaker 2: got in my hand you got these King Queen as
[26:17] Speaker 2: he got a ski Well, he didn't flip this up
[26:19] Speaker 2: what I got this. I got his seven. I got
[26:21] Speaker 2: this 17 in my hand He posed JaVale was like
[26:28] Speaker 2: I don't need none Oh, oh So you got full
[26:33] Speaker 2: in a high or you got all five? Or he
[26:36] Speaker 2: bluffing the hell.
[26:37] Speaker 3: Out of y'all. Yeah, or he bluffing the hell out
[26:38] Speaker 3: of it. Because we used to do that, too. Me
[26:40] Speaker 3: and JaVale did that all the time. Then you got Javaris.
[26:45] Speaker 1: I need five.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Holy shit.
[26:48] Speaker 1: He booed again.
[26:50] Speaker 3: And that's when he's... Yeah, because you got out.
[26:53] Speaker 2: You got booed again, and I'm getting out. And I
[26:56] Speaker 2: look at my hand, and that's where it is. Because
[26:58] Speaker 2: we having a problem. And I'm sitting here like, I
[27:00] Speaker 2: have four Trump.
[27:03] Speaker 3: And I'm still thinking, Jack, Ten, seven, five.
[27:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got out.
[27:09] Speaker 3: I fold. Folded with that.
[27:13] Speaker 2: I fold. And got him booed. And you know how, yeah, see,
[27:20] Speaker 2: you see, we think that shit funny because the money
[27:24] Speaker 2: stay in the pot.
[27:24] Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes.
[27:26] Speaker 2: Man, yo, he would have to fight all of us.
[27:28] Speaker 3: He would have to fight all of us.
[27:33] Speaker 2: He was on our team, or he would have to
[27:35] Speaker 2: fight each one of us that was playing that was
[27:37] Speaker 2: around that table. Oh, because we would do, boy, we
[27:41] Speaker 2: would have, how I laughed the other day when we
[27:43] Speaker 2: were talking about the Lakers? Boy, I would have been
[27:46] Speaker 2: sitting there like this. Yeah.
[27:48] Speaker 1: And I would have egged it on, like, get him!
[27:52] Speaker 1: Get him!
[27:55] Speaker 3: Get him! Listen up.
[27:56] Speaker 2: He would have been in that motherfucker so mad at
[27:59] Speaker 2: me on that plane. That's how it started off, because
[28:02] Speaker 2: I'm the antagonizer.
[28:04] Speaker 3: Yes. I'm the antagonizer.
[28:05] Speaker 1: And I'm right behind you.
[28:06] Speaker 2: So he's been booed like two times in a row. Yes.
[28:09] Speaker 2: And then what ends up happening is I wasn't in.
[28:11] Speaker 1: Oh, and you got called.
[28:12] Speaker 2: So it's a three. You know how like, so we
[28:14] Speaker 2: do the thing where, I don't know if y'all play
[28:15] Speaker 2: that way. If you're not in and you want to
[28:17] Speaker 2: get in, you have to mash the pot. No, we
[28:19] Speaker 2: never played.
[28:20] Speaker 3: So it started off as.
[28:21] Speaker 2: Three, and I'm coming in, I'm sitting there talking. Oh,
[28:24] Speaker 2: that way, okay. He dealt, and then instead of going
[28:26] Speaker 2: to Earl, like I'm in, and then our rule was
[28:28] Speaker 2: you got to match the pot. So I matched the pot,
[28:31] Speaker 2: so I done doubled it off of what it was
[28:34] Speaker 2: already the booze. Okay. So now he already mad because
[28:38] Speaker 2: now an extra dude is into the game. Right.
[28:41] Speaker 1: So you know him, that's my partner. And so his
[28:45] Speaker 1: is more... So you ain't going to help me 2-2-1 this, Joy?
[28:48] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[28:49] Speaker 1: That's what it is. So you ain't going to help
[28:52] Speaker 1: me 2-2-1 this? You just going to let me lose
[28:53] Speaker 1: my money.
[28:55] Speaker 2: Like, that's usually the biggest thing is, like, when you
[28:58] Speaker 2: purposely boo somebody. Absolutely.
[29:01] Speaker 3: You took five.
[29:02] Speaker 1: Listen, you took five, bro. Keep the money up. Keep
[29:03] Speaker 1: the money up. You took five.
[29:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:08] Speaker 1: Your fault.
[29:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this is like, have no sympathy for you
[29:11] Speaker 2: in that moment. You should have got your ass out. Right?
[29:15] Speaker 2: Your money.
[29:15] Speaker 1: You should have let me lose my money. Whatever it was.
[29:17] Speaker 2: Enjoy. You added insult to injury by taking five, bruh.
[29:21] Speaker 1: You already got booed twice in a row. You can't hang.
[29:24] Speaker 1: You got to get out the game. No, listen, bruh.
[29:26] Speaker 1: Trust me.
[29:27] Speaker 2: You know, that's always the one when you, like, you
[29:30] Speaker 2: hold it. Like, I know I can't win the money,
[29:33] Speaker 2: but people don't understand. The purpose sometimes, strategy, if I
[29:37] Speaker 2: can't win it, I got to keep the money in it, right?
[29:40] Speaker 2: So if I know he's holding the king and I
[29:42] Speaker 2: can win this book, I'm going to hold my ace.
[29:45] Speaker 2: Keep throwing off and wait for him to throw that
[29:47] Speaker 2: king thing and he got a book?
[29:48] Speaker 3: Like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
[29:49] Speaker 2: I got that.
[29:50] Speaker 1: So they went head up, JaVale and him.
[29:53] Speaker 2: No, JaVale was like, okay, hold on, look. I got ace, king, queen.
[29:58] Speaker 2: He showed like, I got ace, king, queen, had another one,
[30:01] Speaker 2: and then said, if we play, I'm booing you again.
[30:04] Speaker 3: So just give me the money. And JaVale was like.
[30:08] Speaker 2: Nah, play it out. Nah, nah, miss deal, miss deal.
[30:11] Speaker 2: He showed his hand. What?
[30:16] Speaker 1: Like, it was just one of those.
[30:18] Speaker 3: No.
[30:19] Speaker 2: Because I had got out.
[30:20] Speaker 3: Because I got out. Like, I fold. And I'm like,
[30:22] Speaker 3: I fold, dog. I'm out. I got full card because
[30:24] Speaker 3: now I want to show you that I could have helped.
[30:27] Speaker 3: or tried to, oh, you. You showed him, yeah. I
[30:30] Speaker 3: showed him, yeah.
[30:31] Speaker 2: You can't show him the cards.
[30:32] Speaker 1: He was talking about.
[30:33] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would've wanted to fight you too. You
[30:35] Speaker 2: can't show him the cards.
[30:37] Speaker 1: I showed him I had. You showed him you had
[30:38] Speaker 1: four trunks.
[30:39] Speaker 2: I showed him I had four trunks.
[30:40] Speaker 3: He was like, yeah.
[30:41] Speaker 1: Oh wee.
[30:43] Speaker 3: So I'm in the back just laughing.
[30:44] Speaker 1: He get knocked out, out of hell now.
[30:46] Speaker 2: I'm in there giggling like, yeah, hey man, just take
[30:49] Speaker 2: the lawsuit. Yeah. Boo that, I would've been like, boo
[30:52] Speaker 2: that man.
[30:52] Speaker 1: That's me, boo that man.
[30:54] Speaker 4: Boo that man, please. Hey, so the thing is, so
[31:00] Speaker 4: you and him were there.
[31:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a snow day, so. I'm thinking,
[31:07] Speaker 2: so there was no way it could have been a
[31:08] Speaker 2: 2-2-1 and a boot.
[31:09] Speaker 3: Right?
[31:10] Speaker 2: No. No, so it would have been, to be honest,
[31:14] Speaker 2: it would have been another boo. Yes.
[31:17] Speaker 1: A possible two.
[31:18] Speaker 2: Yes. Because I didn't know, like, I don't think, I
[31:21] Speaker 2: couldn't have got booed because.
[31:22] Speaker 3: I would have had one Trump higher than his. Absolutely.
[31:24] Speaker 2: Even if it led with big cars, I still had. Yeah,
[31:27] Speaker 2: I still got the Ford Trump. And then they'll tell
[31:29] Speaker 2: you what you would have got back on your fifth card.
[31:30] Speaker 2: And they'll tell you if you took one. And they'll
[31:32] Speaker 2: tell you what you would have got back. No, no, no.
[31:33] Speaker 3: It was a high, it was like a high heart. Oh, yeah.
[31:35] Speaker 1: You good then.
[31:36] Speaker 3: So I wouldn't have got booed.
[31:37] Speaker 2: He would have got booed again. Yes.
[31:40] Speaker 4: But you just made it more interesting by getting out.
[31:42] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Just think about it. Yes.
[31:44] Speaker 3: It didn't have nothing to do with the card.
[31:45] Speaker 2: Not at all. Already, you came into the game, won, right?
[31:50] Speaker 2: It was three of us, motherfucker. You just came into
[31:53] Speaker 2: the game. You couldn't mind your fucking business, right?
[31:56] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[31:57] Speaker 1: You doubled the game.
[31:58] Speaker 2: It's not like you waited until it went back to $ 20, right?
[32:01] Speaker 3: It's already at $ 1, 100, which now you made it $ 2, 200.
[32:03] Speaker 1: I'm already down six racks.
[32:11] Speaker 2: Fuck that.
[32:11] Speaker 3: All ethics is out of the window.
[32:13] Speaker 1: And you, my boy?
[32:15] Speaker 3: Oh, no, no.
[32:18] Speaker 1: I hang out with you every day, too? Oh, dog.
[32:22] Speaker 2: He was laughing. It was more of that. Everybody who
[32:26] Speaker 2: did it, it had to be you. Absolutely.
[32:28] Speaker 3: That's really... If it had.
[32:30] Speaker 2: Been anybody else, he would have tore that plane up.
[32:32] Speaker 3: Yeah. On sight. It would have been anybody else getting it.
[32:36] Speaker 3: Right then and.
[32:37] Speaker 2: There, y'all would have had to land that bitch wherever
[32:39] Speaker 2: y'all was. Hey, y'all would.
[32:41] Speaker 4: Have had to land wherever y'all was because he would
[32:43] Speaker 4: have tore that goddamn plane up.
[32:45] Speaker 1: Well, let's keep this thing moving. Bro, that's funny as shit.
[32:48] Speaker 3: It was a snow day, so it went longer when
[32:49] Speaker 3: we landed. When we landed, we were stuck on that
[32:52] Speaker 3: motherfucker's head.
[32:54] Speaker 1: During our playback watch party on Monday, Gil was critical
[32:58] Speaker 1: of the Celtics' Peyton Pritchard, Number 11.
[33:00] Speaker 3: Who?
[33:01] Speaker 1: And Drew Peterson, number 13.
[33:03] Speaker 2: 13.
[33:03] Speaker 1: Here's the clip for reference.
[33:05] Speaker 2: Why they ask me about this shit?
[33:07] Speaker 1: Man, go make a layup, dawg.
[33:09] Speaker 2: I'm going to make a layup.
[33:10] Speaker 1: You don't want to shoot a layup.
[33:13] Speaker 2: Aw, you check, man.
[33:15] Speaker 1: And I see why fans don't want to watch anymore.
[33:17] Speaker 1: But I'm seeing the same shit at the youth level, too.
[33:19] Speaker 1: It's like, they don't want to shoot layups no more.
[33:21] Speaker 1: That's how I know the game sucks.
[33:22] Speaker 3: There's no way in fucking hell you can have 11
[33:25] Speaker 3: and 13 in the same game. There's no way you
[33:29] Speaker 3: can have these two guys play. Look at 13. Look
[33:32] Speaker 3: how he walked.
[33:33] Speaker 1: He walked like score, please, on.
[33:36] Speaker 2: Me so I can sit.
[33:37] Speaker 3: My daddy gave me tickets. My daddy gave me tickets
[33:40] Speaker 3: to the game, and they just let me in.
[33:42] Speaker 1: There's no way.
[33:43] Speaker 2: My daddy gave me tickets.
[33:45] Speaker 1: How many have you had at that point?
[33:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
[33:50] Speaker 1: How many have you had at that point?
[33:51] Speaker 2: Feeling good right there.
[33:52] Speaker 1: It appears that the clip got back to Peyton Pritchard.
[33:56] Speaker 1: who reposted it on his IG story with the caption,
[34:01] Speaker 1: why can't 11 and 13 be in the game at
[34:02] Speaker 1: the same time?
[34:04] Speaker 3: Just curious.
[34:06] Speaker 1: That's some USC footage. Peyton Pritchard went to Oregon. Drew
[34:10] Speaker 1: Peterson went to the other university. It was our store.
[34:14] Speaker 2: Okay.
[34:15] Speaker 1: Do you care to clarify your comments? We don't need
[34:17] Speaker 1: any more smoking. Peyton Pritchard is one of them ones
[34:20] Speaker 1: from Lake Austin.
[34:20] Speaker 3: All right, let me just ask y'all.
[34:21] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[34:22] Speaker 3: He played with us. Who was he playing with?
[34:31] Speaker 2: So if you was on the other end of that
[34:35] Speaker 2: and you got 13 and 11, both in the game,
[34:39] Speaker 2: what type.
[34:40] Speaker 1: Of offense is you running now?
[34:42] Speaker 3: He's a big point guard, though.
[34:44] Speaker 1: What you running? If he guard you, if he guard you,
[34:48] Speaker 1: if he's.
[34:49] Speaker 3: Guarding you, what time is it? What time is it?
[34:55] Speaker 3: They know what it is.
[34:57] Speaker 1: What time is it?
[34:57] Speaker 2: 1-4, right?
[34:59] Speaker 3: Watch out.
[35:01] Speaker 1: Watch out. Can't believe they put them in the game. Like,
[35:03] Speaker 1: two of them?
[35:04] Speaker 2: Right? Two? Like, Dan Dickow is a, like, 1-4 flat
[35:10] Speaker 2: against you.
[35:10] Speaker 1: Then they put Kyle Corbett in, too?
[35:13] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[35:15] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. This is about to be. They got Doliak.
[35:21] Speaker 2: and Brian Cardinal in the game at the same time.
[35:25] Speaker 2: I'm just, I don't mean to be racist, but you
[35:27] Speaker 2: can only have one at a time.
[35:29] Speaker 3: You can only have one at a time before we
[35:34] Speaker 3: decide to say, well, ain't no more offense.
[35:39] Speaker 2: We just picking on you. Coach done gave me a layup.
[35:44] Speaker 1: What have you done here? Well, the Celtics won that game, Gil.
[35:47] Speaker 2: No, I get it.
[35:48] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like... But they was winning by.
[35:50] Speaker 1: Like, you got Pritchard cool. Okay, so nothing was directed
[35:53] Speaker 1: at Peyton Pritchard.
[35:53] Speaker 2: And then you put.
[35:54] Speaker 3: They was winning by the time.
[35:57] Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we're not... These are not defensive.
[35:59] Speaker 1: Stoppers, right?
[36:00] Speaker 2: Well.
[36:01] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
[36:02] Speaker 2: Besides Pritchard, the other one just sit in the corner, right?
[36:05] Speaker 2: So he's a liability on the other end, right? So
[36:08] Speaker 2: all I'm saying is when two of them get in
[36:10] Speaker 2: the game, never seen that before, besides back in, like,
[36:13] Speaker 2: the 70s and stuff, like.
[36:15] Speaker 3: In a while, we go at that. Easy one. That's
[36:18] Speaker 3: why Chamberlain got all those stats. Oh, ain't no Negroes here.
[36:23] Speaker 3: 100 points?
[36:24] Speaker 2: I'm going to get 100 today.
[36:27] Speaker 1: Hey, man, I don't.
[36:29] Speaker 2: Know what league y'all watching this. No, it's James.
[36:33] Speaker 1: Harden doing pick and roll.
[36:34] Speaker 3: All right, one of those Euros got him.
[36:38] Speaker 1: Whoa, what kind of, hey, back up. Let's go, man.
[36:43] Speaker 1: That is normal. Let's give Peyton Pritchard some love, though,
[36:46] Speaker 1: because he's having a great season.
[36:47] Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
[36:48] Speaker 1: That's who clapped back at you.
[36:51] Speaker 3: No, he's nice.
[36:52] Speaker 2: He's the one who pays players to come out in
[36:56] Speaker 2: the summertime. He pays players in the summertime just to
[36:58] Speaker 2: play defense against them. Yeah, brings high-level guys from Europe over.
[37:01] Speaker 2: All they job is just to play defense.
[37:03] Speaker 1: They got to try to stop them.
[37:04] Speaker 3: So shout out Peyton Pritchard.
[37:06] Speaker 2: I never thought about that.
[37:07] Speaker 1: In terms of odds, Pritchard's currently the leading candidate for
[37:09] Speaker 1: six-man of the year, averaging 16 points, shooting 43% from
[37:13] Speaker 1: three-point range. Best on the Celtics. Boston cruising at 18-4
[37:16] Speaker 1: right now. Is Pritchard's big season flying under the radar
[37:19] Speaker 1: because of the Celtics' depth?
[37:20] Speaker 2: That's my motherfucking dog.
[37:22] Speaker 1: Not really.
[37:22] Speaker 2: Not if he's leading.
[37:24] Speaker 3: Not if he's up for six-man.
[37:26] Speaker 2: That's shocking. What, what?
[37:30] Speaker 3: A white man doing all that and it ain't nowhere?
[37:32] Speaker 2: And it's quiet? That's shocking. I ain't never seen that.
[37:35] Speaker 3: But it's in Boston, though, so how shocking is it?
[37:37] Speaker 3: Boston is white. Boston is a white city. But still,
[37:40] Speaker 3: white man 16? Sixth man of the year? That's a game. Yeah,
[37:43] Speaker 3: you're right.
[37:44] Speaker 2: That should be blasted. That should be blasted.
[37:45] Speaker 1: He should have a billboard.
[37:46] Speaker 2: Man. What all is, right? To replace Tatum. Man.
[37:51] Speaker 1: This is the big three. I just.
[37:54] Speaker 3: It's Friday just on Lake Boston, bro. That's crazy.
[37:57] Speaker 2: That's weird, right? That's weird for real.
[37:59] Speaker 1: He's doing his thing. Shout out P-Rabbit. He's definitely shooting it. Nah,
[38:02] Speaker 1: he gets that up.
[38:03] Speaker 3: For real?
[38:03] Speaker 1: Like nine and a half games.
[38:05] Speaker 3: Nine, yep. He gets that up.
[38:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's on pace to hit seventh most
[38:09] Speaker 1: threes in NBA history. So he's on pace to hit
[38:11] Speaker 1: 309 threes. Only Curry and Harden have more. Record for
[38:15] Speaker 1: most reporters by bench players, Wayne Ellington with 218. Oh,
[38:17] Speaker 1: he's going to destroy that. And producers want to know,
[38:20] Speaker 1: technically the last white six-man-a-year Tyler Herro. 21, 22. Yeah,
[38:25] Speaker 1: a real good corner. He has tendencies, as we all know.
[38:28] Speaker 3: Good corner. He wears do-rags.
[38:31] Speaker 2: That's the Iggy of whites right there.
[38:33] Speaker 3: You know? The Iggy of whites.
[38:36] Speaker 2: That's the hero.
[38:37] Speaker 3: That's the Iggy of whites. He got a tan, though.
[38:41] Speaker 2: For sure. He got, you know, the hero got a
[38:44] Speaker 2: little tan on him. Yeah, for sure.
[38:47] Speaker 3: 13, Peterson. Him and Jack Harlow, cool.
[38:50] Speaker 2: Jack Harlow, cool.
[38:52] Speaker 1: Him and Jack Harlow is cool. So this Sunday, December 8th,
[38:55] Speaker 1: Gil and I will be hosting a watch party for
[38:57] Speaker 1: the Wolves-Warriors game on Playback. 5.30 p.m. Pacific, 8.30 p.m.
[39:01] Speaker 2: Eastern.
[39:01] Speaker 1: If you want to join the fun, pull up to
[39:02] Speaker 1: playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas. That's playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas. If
[39:07] Speaker 1: you don't already have a Playback account, it's free and
[39:09] Speaker 1: easy to join. You already know Gil has no chill,
[39:11] Speaker 1: so it's going to be legendary. We'll also be checking
[39:13] Speaker 1: out other games on League Pass, so come hang out
[39:15] Speaker 1: with us. And if you ain't got League Pass and Playback,
[39:18] Speaker 1: it's a plug for you. Giving away 100 free League
[39:20] Speaker 1: Pass codes for all the fans that pull up in
[39:22] Speaker 1: the chat. If you watch these shows, you get free
[39:24] Speaker 1: League Pass. You get to watch for the rest of
[39:25] Speaker 1: the season. And all you got to do is pull
[39:27] Speaker 1: up for a chance to win one. And if you
[39:28] Speaker 1: don't have League Pass, you can still jump on playback
[39:31] Speaker 1: and you can get a free seven-day trial to check
[39:33] Speaker 1: it out, see how you're feeling about it. So head
[39:34] Speaker 1: over to playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas this Sunday, 5.30 p.m. Pacific,
[39:39] Speaker 1: 8.30 p.m. Eastern, and watch that Wolves-Warriors game with us.
[39:42] Speaker 1: So speaking of the Wolves.
[39:43] Speaker 3: Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was whispering.
[39:47] Speaker 1: But see, you have the mics when you whisper. When
[39:50] Speaker 1: you whisper, you whisper it into the entire chat.
[39:52] Speaker 2: My bad.
[39:53] Speaker 1: And they can hear everything that's going on. Speaking of
[39:59] Speaker 1: the Wolves, yeah, if y'all want to do the text
[40:00] Speaker 1: thing or write notes, put them in a bottle. But
[40:04] Speaker 1: after beating the Lakers by 29 points at home on Monday,
[40:08] Speaker 1: in the interest of fairness, we got to talk about
[40:09] Speaker 1: the Wolves pulling up to the Intuit Dome and handing
[40:12] Speaker 1: the Clippers a 28-point ass-whooping last night. So very similar
[40:17] Speaker 1: to Monday's game stat-wise. Also, nobody on the Wolves squad
[40:21] Speaker 1: had huge numbers because they were all cooking and the
[40:23] Speaker 1: starters were able to rest for most of the second half.
[40:26] Speaker 1: And man, did have 16 points on five and 14 shooting.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Julius Randle led the team. with 20 points on 8
[40:31] Speaker 1: for 16 from the field. Clippers trailed by as many
[40:33] Speaker 1: as 41 points in the game, and after the game,
[40:36] Speaker 1: Ty Lue said, unlike Mike Malone, I'm flushing it, referencing
[40:40] Speaker 1: the Nuggets coach's comments after the Nuggets got smacked by
[40:43] Speaker 1: the Knicks last week. As for the Wolves, they held
[40:46] Speaker 1: the Clippers to 80 points, which ties the Lakers on
[40:49] Speaker 1: Monday for the lowest point total this season. We are
[40:51] Speaker 1: off the hook. Clippers, you are here with us, too.
[40:54] Speaker 1: You are boo-boo, too.
[40:55] Speaker 2: Because you know them Clippers was laughing. They got to
[40:58] Speaker 2: laugh for a good 24 hours before boom.
[41:02] Speaker 3: You scored 82. Nah, nah, we lost by 41.
[41:04] Speaker 2: Y'all lost by 41. No, no, no, lowest, 80. That's
[41:08] Speaker 2: the other thing going on. Right, that was the lowest win.
[41:11] Speaker 1: This season, lowest point total this season. So according to OptiStats,
[41:16] Speaker 1: the Wolves are the only team to beat the Lakers
[41:17] Speaker 1: and Clippers by 25-plus points in back-to-back games since the
[41:20] Speaker 1: Clippers moved to L.A., in the 1984-85 season.
[41:23] Speaker 3: That makes sense. What?
[41:26] Speaker 2: That makes sense.
[41:27] Speaker 3: And the loss also snapped.
[41:28] Speaker 2: Okay.
[41:29] Speaker 1: I'm sharing stats. That makes sense. And the loss snapped
[41:31] Speaker 1: the Clippers' nine-game home-winning streak into a dunk. So how
[41:36] Speaker 1: significant are the Wolves' back-to-back blowout wins over the Lakers
[41:39] Speaker 1: and Clippers? Ken, you do not care. Ten and ten.
[41:45] Speaker 3: Ten and ten.
[41:52] Speaker 2: Yes, sir. They are no longer 10-10. 11-10. My bad.
[41:57] Speaker 4: They were 10-10 prior to yesterday, 11-10. So they're one
[42:01] Speaker 4: game above 500.
[42:03] Speaker 3: So, cool. I think it means something, though. At least,
[42:08] Speaker 3: you know, you know. If you got to play the
[42:10] Speaker 3: Lakers or the Clippers in that eighth spot. Because Lakers
[42:14] Speaker 3: not going to go past that.
[42:16] Speaker 2: I mean, the fifth, sixth spot. So, you know, you may.
[42:20] Speaker 2: I guess later in the play.
[42:22] Speaker 3: So if you got to play either one of those teams, yeah.
[42:25] Speaker 2: Since they're a bottom-feeding team, you know, I guess it
[42:28] Speaker 2: is good for their morale that they beat two.
[42:30] Speaker 3: Teammates in front of them. You said they're a bottom team? Yeah.
[42:35] Speaker 2: I mean, we had two more wins before they won
[42:38] Speaker 2: last night.
[42:39] Speaker 1: A very powerful win, though.
[42:41] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[42:42] Speaker 1: So these are two powerful wins.
[42:43] Speaker 2: So they'll be like, yeah, we just beat two Jaguars.
[42:46] Speaker 1: But let's talk about another situation. So last week after
[42:49] Speaker 1: the Wolves' fourth straight loss, Ant-Man called out the team
[42:52] Speaker 1: saying they had grown apart and were acting like a
[42:54] Speaker 1: bunch of frontrunners. He included himself in that.
[42:56] Speaker 2: He also said their identity was that they were soft
[42:59] Speaker 2: as hell for not.
[43:00] Speaker 1: Being able to hold each other accountable. So since those comments,
[43:03] Speaker 1: the Wolves have won three straight games. We're right now
[43:05] Speaker 1: at 11-10. They are still 11th in the West. So
[43:09] Speaker 1: do you believe the Wolves will make a run and
[43:10] Speaker 1: end up as a top six team in the West,
[43:13] Speaker 1: build on the great season they had last year?
[43:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[43:20] Speaker 3: I believe in Julius Randle and Anthony Edwards, you know.
[43:26] Speaker 3: I feel like right now in the West, the league
[43:30] Speaker 3: is just ass right now. Cheeks? Yeah, everybody's looking terrible.
[43:36] Speaker 3: So I think.
[43:38] Speaker 3: By the end of January, I think Minnesota is going
[43:41] Speaker 3: to be where they're supposed to be in that four
[43:43] Speaker 3: or three spot. I don't think Houston is going to
[43:47] Speaker 3: be still at the top.
[43:49] Speaker 1: Currently, I believe, second in the West right now.
[43:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think somebody is going to move them out
[43:52] Speaker 3: the way. OKC is going to stay where they're at. And, yeah,
[43:57] Speaker 3: I don't know. Who else is good? Phoenix is in limbo.
[44:01] Speaker 3: Denver got one. Denver is going to move. I mean,
[44:04] Speaker 3: Denver is going to move. No, they in limbo, too.
[44:06] Speaker 3: They ain't got no bench. But Russ, the Lakers, we
[44:13] Speaker 3: stuck on getting killed.
[44:16] Speaker 1: Figuring things out.
[44:17] Speaker 3: Transitional stack. You know, the front office, the front office,
[44:22] Speaker 3: you know, see glimpse and stay focused on the glimpse
[44:25] Speaker 3: we show and don't do no moves. We're going to
[44:27] Speaker 3: be in eighth or ninth spot. Warriors, they fell back
[44:34] Speaker 3: to where they belong, so yeah.
[44:37] Speaker 1: That was one bright spot of this whole situation.
[44:41] Speaker 2: If this was last year and Anthony Edwards made those comments,
[44:46] Speaker 2: who would he have been talking about? Right?
[44:51] Speaker 3: Right.
[44:51] Speaker 1: We, we.
[44:52] Speaker 3: Right? No, no. We would be thinking town, right? We
[44:56] Speaker 3: would be thinking cat.
[44:57] Speaker 2: Now, like, I'm sitting here like, who would he be
[45:00] Speaker 2: talking about?
[45:01] Speaker 3: Julius.
[45:03] Speaker 1: You think that's who he's talking about with that?
[45:04] Speaker 3: Because Julius don't, like, when you ask him something, he
[45:07] Speaker 3: fights back with it. So I could see them getting
[45:10] Speaker 3: into it over a certain type of thing.
[45:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he was saying, but he was saying
[45:13] Speaker 1: across the board, didn't single anybody out, said the entire team,
[45:17] Speaker 1: soft as hell. Dudes weren't able to talk to each other.
[45:19] Speaker 1: They had grown apart, had a front-runner mentality.
[45:21] Speaker 2: Grown apart.
[45:21] Speaker 1: When things were up, everything's all good. When things down,
[45:24] Speaker 1: he also referenced the crowd booing him.
[45:27] Speaker 4: So could y'all talk to each other before? How was
[45:30] Speaker 4: the conversations within.
[45:32] Speaker 2: The locker room before? Could you criticize your teammate and
[45:35] Speaker 2: critique him without him being upset before? Yeah. Right?
[45:38] Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.
[45:40] Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. So now that Julie is there,
[45:45] Speaker 3: but now they want it out.
[45:46] Speaker 2: So if they could do that before, was Cat the
[45:48] Speaker 2: vocal point? Was he the vocal leader? Was he the
[45:51] Speaker 2: one that was keeping everything together?
[45:52] Speaker 1: We have some instances this season of Randall and Gobert
[45:54] Speaker 1: kind of going at it during the game with each other. Yeah,
[45:56] Speaker 1: they're two emotional players on the same team.
[45:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:01] Speaker 3: But that drive, you need that right there. What Julius
[46:04] Speaker 3: Randle did, Towns not doing. He's shooting the three. Who's
[46:07] Speaker 3: shooting the three? Towns.
[46:10] Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
[46:11] Speaker 3: You need that drive that Julius did and dunked it
[46:14] Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah, you need that. You can't settle.
[46:17] Speaker 3: Towns was settled for five threes against Dallas.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Ah.
[46:21] Speaker 3: Mm-mm.
[46:23] Speaker 2: Probably makes sense. Like, during that time, that's when, like,
[46:26] Speaker 2: Rudy Goldberg was getting the three seconds and Matty wasn't
[46:29] Speaker 2: getting the ball. Yeah.
[46:31] Speaker 1: That type of stuff going on. So they had lost
[46:32] Speaker 1: four straight games after that fourth loss against the Kings
[46:35] Speaker 1: and made these comments. Made sure to include themselves. Yeah,
[46:37] Speaker 1: because they lost to the Kings.
[46:38] Speaker 3: Yeah. Which?
[46:40] Speaker 2: That would make us have a, yeah, that would make
[46:42] Speaker 2: me say we solved two.
[46:43] Speaker 1: They were 8-10 at that point.
[46:46] Speaker 2: Nah, the Kings, they got all that talent. They're not good, man.
[46:48] Speaker 3: Yeah. The Kings is good as hell. You can't be
[46:51] Speaker 3: soft against the Kings. The Bonas be punking everybody, though.
[46:53] Speaker 2: But that's just, I'm talking about overall, they lost to
[46:55] Speaker 2: the Kings, and the Kings and I wasn't.
[46:56] Speaker 3: At the time.
[46:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, the Kings currently 12th in the West. Yeah, they struggling,
[46:59] Speaker 1: so you losing them, you trying to get back on track.
[47:02] Speaker 2: The home crowd booing you. Yeah, that's the thing. When
[47:06] Speaker 2: your home crowd boo you, that hits you.
[47:07] Speaker 3: That's when it look bad, yeah.
[47:09] Speaker 1: How does that feel as a player when you're trying
[47:10] Speaker 1: to give your all or maybe not give your all
[47:12] Speaker 1: out there in your home fans?
[47:14] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[47:15] Speaker 1: Home fans never booed you? No, you was at the Knicks.
[47:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[47:18] Speaker 3: But that was their.
[47:20] Speaker 2: They just did that.
[47:22] Speaker 4: The second year I was there, we was winning the
[47:24] Speaker 4: first year, so we made the playoff. We made it
[47:26] Speaker 4: to the second round my first year, so there was
[47:27] Speaker 4: no need to boo. The second year, we had a
[47:29] Speaker 4: lot of injuries, so it wasn't... Like, God's willing wasn't
[47:33] Speaker 4: available that second year. I'm saying my second year there, so.
[47:37] Speaker 4: I don't remember them booing me because we still went
[47:38] Speaker 4: out and competed and all that shit.
[47:39] Speaker 3: That's all they care about is competition.
[47:41] Speaker 2: If you look like you go hard, they.
[47:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And we still competed.
[47:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been.
[47:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't never.
[47:46] Speaker 3: Been booed at home.
[47:47] Speaker 2: I've never been booed as a team. Like, we stinking,
[47:52] Speaker 2: and then they boo everybody. Nah, I was just a part.
[47:54] Speaker 2: They just booed one person. Yeah.
[47:56] Speaker 3: They booed.
[47:57] Speaker 1: You.
[47:58] Speaker 2: I don't want to.
[47:58] Speaker 3: I don't want to.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Nigga, boo.
[47:59] Speaker 3: You got boo.
[48:00] Speaker 2: We give you the ball.
[48:01] Speaker 1: You get the ball.
[48:03] Speaker 3: Boo.
[48:03] Speaker 2: Stop. Stop. No, I'm just saying.
[48:05] Speaker 1: In the beef. Boo.
[48:07] Speaker 3: I'm talking about that. Because you know it's always, it
[48:11] Speaker 3: just starts off with one person.
[48:13] Speaker 2: I'm talking about my friend.
[48:14] Speaker 6: Boo.
[48:15] Speaker 2: Damn.
[48:16] Speaker 1: Start it early.
[48:17] Speaker 2: I'm talking about my friend.
[48:20] Speaker 3: Unnecessary.
[48:20] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[48:21] Speaker 2: That's it.
[48:22] Speaker 1: But I obviously said you feel like the Knicks kind
[48:24] Speaker 1: of already won the trade. You stamped that, the Cat
[48:27] Speaker 1: Julius Randle trade. But do you feel like the Timberwolves
[48:29] Speaker 1: will be able to figure this thing out? Get back
[48:32] Speaker 1: into that top six in the Western Conference?
[48:37] Speaker 2: You don't think so? Look at everybody.
[48:40] Speaker 1: Because the star player.
[48:41] Speaker 2: Is not, he's not in his element of prime yet, where... Where, like,
[48:47] Speaker 2: you know what I mean? He's not at that Kevin,
[48:49] Speaker 2: you know, KG to Duncan. He's, you know, like, he's
[48:54] Speaker 2: not at that level of, like, he's still like a young,
[48:59] Speaker 2: he's still a young up-and-coming talent to the point where
[49:01] Speaker 2: he don't have, like, there's going to be guys listening.
[49:04] Speaker 3: To him like.
[49:05] Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Should they put the
[49:08] Speaker 2: ball in his hand?
[49:10] Speaker 3: How they doing it?
[49:11] Speaker 4: Like, not how, make him the point. Might as well.
[49:16] Speaker 4: Take Mike Conley out of the situation. I'm asking with
[49:19] Speaker 4: that in hand, because how many points he averaging this year?
[49:23] Speaker 3: Let me pull that up for you.
[49:24] Speaker 2: He was averaging like 26, I think. Nah, he's low.
[49:27] Speaker 3: He's lower than that. He's dropped a little bit.
[49:29] Speaker 2: He's lower than that.
[49:30] Speaker 1: He's lower than that right now. I don't know how
[49:32] Speaker 1: much lower.
[49:33] Speaker 2: So I'm just thinking, right, for what these other guys... 26, 6,
[49:37] Speaker 2: and 4 assists so far this season.
[49:40] Speaker 1: Shooting 44% from the field.
[49:41] Speaker 3: But it was 29. 42% from the.
[49:42] Speaker 2: Field, yeah. He had a couple, obviously, unfortunate situations. How
[49:46] Speaker 2: they play offense, it makes sense. Right. Because it's not
[49:48] Speaker 2: like you're involving Michael Conley. It's not like Michael Conley
[49:52] Speaker 2: is pointing at you. Yeah, he becomes a spotter.
[49:54] Speaker 3: He's Derrick Fisher.
[49:55] Speaker 2: He's Derrick Fisher. That's like the old Lakers style.
[49:58] Speaker 4: But you don't have a dominant post player for that
[50:00] Speaker 4: to be effective. So Derrick Fisher was excellent because we
[50:05] Speaker 4: had the double-team check.
[50:06] Speaker 2: Yeah. So that made Derrick Fisher just sit out there
[50:12] Speaker 2: and do what he do best, right? So if you're going.
[50:15] Speaker 3: To have a... No, I'm just going to do it
[50:18] Speaker 3: because I did it.
[50:19] Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying, if you're just going to have
[50:21] Speaker 2: Mike Conley as a shooter, basically it's like, who's the
[50:24] Speaker 2: better shooter, you or DiVincenzo? Yeah.
[50:28] Speaker 3: They don't want to play him like that. But bigger, though.
[50:30] Speaker 2: Now, you put the ball into Anthony Edwards. Anthony's the point.
[50:33] Speaker 2: He's the point, and you play... They play Alexander. David
[50:36] Speaker 2: Chinzo guards the point.
[50:37] Speaker 3: David Chinzo don't even play, bro. They play Alexander.
[50:40] Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, man, the way the game is now
[50:42] Speaker 4: and how Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum are. You need
[50:49] Speaker 4: another guy. I think him and Daniels can be your
[50:51] Speaker 4: one and two and you add another guy. You can
[50:53] Speaker 4: go real big. You can go real big. That's what
[50:54] Speaker 4: I'm saying. I think you can... It could be done.
[50:57] Speaker 2: What?
[50:57] Speaker 1: Because both of them defend. Both of them defend.
[50:59] Speaker 3: Nas can play three, right?
[51:00] Speaker 1: He could if you.
[51:01] Speaker 2: So you can put Ant-Man, Daniels, Nas, Julius. You can
[51:05] Speaker 2: have a really big lineup.
[51:07] Speaker 3: So you take Daniels out?
[51:09] Speaker 1: No, Daniels at the two. He defends.
[51:10] Speaker 2: Oh, so Daniels Central. No, what I'm saying is there's
[51:13] Speaker 2: like through the game, you can try.
[51:15] Speaker 1: I'm starting Julius Randle at the three.
[51:17] Speaker 4: And I'm playing Nas, Reed at the four, and Gobert
[51:21] Speaker 4: at the five.
[51:21] Speaker 2: Okay. And Daniels and Ant-Man. Still bringing different teams off
[51:27] Speaker 2: the bench. Now think about teams. They're going to have
[51:29] Speaker 2: to try to adjust to them. I'm watching Orlando. Orlando
[51:34] Speaker 2: big as hell. Orlando big as hell. Orlando's big as fuck.
[51:38] Speaker 2: Watching them play your family yesterday, though. Orlando big as...
[51:42] Speaker 2: And they missing... They still big.
[51:45] Speaker 1: The dude they bought and started for him. He's 16, 6'11.
[51:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[51:48] Speaker 2: I'm watching KS and they're like, God damn, who... Fran Wagner, 6'10, 230,
[51:56] Speaker 2: playing the 2-3.
[51:57] Speaker 1: Yo, speaking of, he's really good.
[52:00] Speaker 3: We tried to talk about him yesterday.
[52:01] Speaker 1: He's really good. Tried to give him some love, didn't you?
[52:04] Speaker 2: Wagner. Oh, yeah, hell yeah.
[52:06] Speaker 3: He made a couple.
[52:07] Speaker 2: No, he went to the basket and trapped yesterday, tried
[52:08] Speaker 2: to dunk that bitch backwards.
[52:09] Speaker 3: Man.
[52:10] Speaker 1: Representing the fatherland.
[52:11] Speaker 2: I saw this dude different.
[52:14] Speaker 3: Orlando, all right.
[52:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, but no. Gil said he's not quite yet to
[52:18] Speaker 1: lean in on watching the Magic yet.
[52:20] Speaker 2: I can't watch the Magic.
[52:21] Speaker 3: I'm watching Philly play.
[52:22] Speaker 2: I can't. And I'm watching them tomorrow, too. They want
[52:26] Speaker 2: to play the Magic again tomorrow. So you're going to
[52:29] Speaker 2: be 12-3rd. So when the Magic players get... Goddamn, he
[52:33] Speaker 2: kind of good. But then you wait until you got
[52:36] Speaker 2: 30 to play Boxing 1 on him. I'm like, yeah, the.
[52:41] Speaker 1: Food almost done.
[52:41] Speaker 3: Food almost done.
[52:44] Speaker 2: He damn near done grilling already. But no, I think
[52:49] Speaker 2: they should put Ant at the point.
[52:50] Speaker 3: For the ball.
[52:50] Speaker 2: Actually, he was the guy before Ben Sherrill got there, right? Wagner.
[52:54] Speaker 3: No, no, no, he came after, I think. Did he? No,
[52:57] Speaker 3: let me double check.
[52:58] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[52:58] Speaker 3: Or they came at the same time, something like that.
[53:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, he just got his bag this year.
[53:01] Speaker 2: I remember one, there was already some guy that they
[53:03] Speaker 2: were pumping up a lot over there.
[53:06] Speaker 1: No, that was, I think they're both, no, Franz has
[53:08] Speaker 1: been there a season before. Yeah, the season before.
[53:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but.
[53:12] Speaker 1: Paolo's in his third.
[53:12] Speaker 2: So, to play Ant at the point, gives them a
[53:16] Speaker 2: different look. You go big, line up, you make teams
[53:20] Speaker 2: adjust to you.
[53:21] Speaker 3: Because Randall can bring it up too sometimes.
[53:23] Speaker 2: And he can guard. The way the game is now,
[53:25] Speaker 2: he can guard the three.
[53:26] Speaker 3: He can guard the three.
[53:27] Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they're taking people off the dribble.
[53:28] Speaker 2: Then you make people have to guard.
[53:30] Speaker 4: Then you make them have to guard Nas Reed, McDaniels,
[53:33] Speaker 4: and Anthony Edwards on the floor at the same time.
[53:36] Speaker 3: How long do you leave that lineup in, though, for
[53:38] Speaker 3: the first quarter?
[53:41] Speaker 2: A lineup like that, you probably... You don't want him
[53:44] Speaker 2: to be on the ball. No, what I'm saying is
[53:46] Speaker 2: you should probably put that lineup in middle of the.
[53:52] Speaker 1: Fourth?
[53:52] Speaker 2: Like at the nine-minute mark of the second quarter. Because,
[53:56] Speaker 2: you know, once you do a trade, once you bring
[53:58] Speaker 2: back in... Because who comes off the bench?
[54:00] Speaker 3: DiVincenzo.
[54:01] Speaker 2: DiVincenzo.
[54:02] Speaker 1: And Nikhil Alexander-Walker.
[54:04] Speaker 2: Alexander-Walker. So when you're subbing your... Like you bring in
[54:08] Speaker 2: Ant-Man for.
[54:09] Speaker 3: A different show. So you sub in Nas for Point Guard.
[54:11] Speaker 2: Because Nas will already be in. He come in for
[54:14] Speaker 2: like three. You bring Mike Conley in. You bring Mike
[54:16] Speaker 2: Conley in.
[54:17] Speaker 4: You put him in for Nas or Rudy. So it's... Right,
[54:23] Speaker 4: so there's ways.
[54:23] Speaker 3: To measure the lineup. You don't want ant on.
[54:26] Speaker 2: The ball the whole time. No, you put like a
[54:29] Speaker 2: four-minute stretch and see how it looks. Yeah, you can
[54:31] Speaker 2: start off.
[54:32] Speaker 1: But you make the teams defend you different.
[54:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[54:35] Speaker 1: With that lineup, I think.
[54:36] Speaker 3: For sure. That'll be dope.
[54:38] Speaker 1: It's a big-ass lineup. Timberwolves' number one team in the
[54:40] Speaker 1: league defensively last season. I believe they're currently sixth this season.
[54:43] Speaker 3: Still good.
[54:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:44] Speaker 4: They got three really, really good defenders on the floor
[54:48] Speaker 4: at the start of the night.
[54:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:49] Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, McDaniels, and then you got.
[54:51] Speaker 2: He got to drive more, too, though.
[54:54] Speaker 3: Ant-Man. He got to mix it up. He got to
[54:56] Speaker 3: get back to it.
[54:57] Speaker 2: Yesterday, I think he had his... His higher was 3.5
[55:02] Speaker 2: on a three. And I'm like....
[55:07] Speaker 1: Nah, man. He going to get it.
[55:09] Speaker 2: Made four. But he has 16 points.
[55:11] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[55:13] Speaker 1: He got to drive. A lot of threes, a lot
[55:15] Speaker 1: of settling from that squad.
[55:16] Speaker 3: He got to drive.
[55:18] Speaker 2: He's selling too much.
[55:19] Speaker 3: So you think they'll figure it out? I don't know
[55:21] Speaker 3: if they will.
[55:22] Speaker 4: Because then you start to think about the year Sacramento
[55:25] Speaker 4: finished third, right?
[55:28] Speaker 2: Was it a fluke? And it's coming to, it's rounded up.
[55:33] Speaker 2: Probably they ain't doing shit.
[55:34] Speaker 3: It's a fluke, right?
[55:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these teams is not like real.
[55:36] Speaker 2: These young teams ain't being consistent from year to year.
[55:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not.
[55:40] Speaker 2: And I think this is one of these situations maybe.
[55:43] Speaker 1: Especially with Sack getting DeMar DeRozan this year, I think
[55:45] Speaker 1: there was expectation to return.
[55:46] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[55:47] Speaker 1: Return to that.
[55:47] Speaker 2: You expect to be better. Bring Malik Monk back, right?
[55:51] Speaker 2: So you expect to be better this year. No. Damn, man.
[55:55] Speaker 3: They're not good. I can put some shots on it.
[55:59] Speaker 3: Have you watched them play? Yeah, but it's hard to
[56:02] Speaker 3: figure out with DeMar.
[56:03] Speaker 4: 20 games in, so this is.
[56:06] Speaker 3: The sample size. DeMar and Julius is two tough people
[56:09] Speaker 3: to figure out on a team.
[56:11] Speaker 4: After 25 games, you know what you are.
[56:14] Speaker 3: So you're saying the Lakers is ass?
[56:16] Speaker 2: No, they're just coming back to reality is what I'm saying.
[56:21] Speaker 2: They got off to a hot start. I was honest
[56:24] Speaker 2: with the situation where I thought they would finish.
[56:26] Speaker 3: I didn't.
[56:27] Speaker 2: I said they would be fighting to get in once again, right?
[56:31] Speaker 2: They'll end up probably seven or eight.
[56:33] Speaker 3: That's just what it is.
[56:37] Speaker 2: So that's my thing. Show me different. Since they were
[56:42] Speaker 2: the third seed, what have Sacramento done? Minnesota last year.
[56:52] Speaker 2: Was it a fluke? You made a trade for what?
[56:55] Speaker 2: You had a good team. You finished top two, three
[56:57] Speaker 2: in the West.
[56:58] Speaker 3: You didn't give it a chance.
[56:59] Speaker 4: You didn't give it a chance. Come back and see
[57:00] Speaker 4: if we can do it again, right? So now you
[57:02] Speaker 4: didn't mess with the chemistry of this. Now the boy
[57:04] Speaker 4: talking about we solved. Now these things going on. Now
[57:07] Speaker 4: you have a 20, 25-game sample size now on what
[57:11] Speaker 4: we are.
[57:14] Speaker 1: You won three straight.
[57:14] Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
[57:15] Speaker 4: Guaranteed it's going to go back to what they were, right?
[57:20] Speaker 4: Because this sample size.
[57:22] Speaker 2: You can't.
[57:23] Speaker 3: I just don't know.
[57:24] Speaker 2: I don't see them running off guys.
[57:25] Speaker 3: I don't see it.
[57:26] Speaker 2: See, this is the thing.
[57:27] Speaker 4: I don't see them running off multiple, multiple games right now.
[57:31] Speaker 4: So I'll give you their next five games.
[57:33] Speaker 3: I'll give it at least a 40.
[57:35] Speaker 1: They played the Warriors twice on Friday and Sunday.
[57:38] Speaker 3: Then obviously.
[57:39] Speaker 2: Two tough games. And Steph hurt, right?
[57:41] Speaker 1: And they got Lakers and Spurs.
[57:43] Speaker 2: Tough games.
[57:43] Speaker 3: Like, you know.
[57:44] Speaker 2: What I'm saying? Next four games, I believe he's sitting
[57:47] Speaker 2: out tonight. No, but what I'm saying is, like, when
[57:49] Speaker 2: they're losing, he's calling them out, right? He's calling them
[57:53] Speaker 2: front runners. Yeah. Which lets you know, when shit goes bad,
[57:58] Speaker 2: they go sour. Mentally.
[58:00] Speaker 1: Start pointing fingers.
[58:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. When we're winning, we're over here like clap, clap, clap.
[58:05] Speaker 2: When we're losing, we're trying to figure out whose fault
[58:07] Speaker 2: it is.
[58:08] Speaker 3: Instead of just, this is basketball.
[58:10] Speaker 2: We're going to win four, five in a row.
[58:12] Speaker 3: We're going to lose four, five.
[58:13] Speaker 2: In a row.
[58:14] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[58:14] Speaker 2: He ain't the Kevin. He ain't the KJ.
[58:15] Speaker 3: When you're about 29, 30, when you're going through these situations.
[58:27] Speaker 2: The older veteran guy, the star player, brings everybody together.
[58:32] Speaker 2: So there's none of this in the media.
[58:34] Speaker 1: I got to be better.
[58:36] Speaker 2: I got to do this.
[58:38] Speaker 1: I got to find a way.
[58:39] Speaker 3: You need to can. But that's why they can't come
[58:41] Speaker 3: back from it.
[58:42] Speaker 2: You're not going to call me soft. You're not going
[58:47] Speaker 2: to call me soft and then don't think that's going
[58:49] Speaker 2: to be lingering in my mind.
[58:50] Speaker 3: You know, other teams got vets, too. And the way
[58:52] Speaker 3: the lead is.
[58:53] Speaker 2: You don't say Mike Conley's not a vet on that squad?
[58:55] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he talked to him.
[58:58] Speaker 1: But that's what Andy said.
[58:59] Speaker 2: Me and Mike were talking.
[59:00] Speaker 1: Me and Mike were talking.
[59:03] Speaker 2: Like Tyrone Liu, right? They take an ass whooping, he
[59:06] Speaker 2: say what?
[59:07] Speaker 1: I'm flushing it.
[59:08] Speaker 3: We flushing it.
[59:09] Speaker 1: There's no blue. This is part of the game. We're
[59:11] Speaker 1: going to get blown out.
[59:12] Speaker 2: This is the NBA. We're playing against other stars. We're
[59:15] Speaker 2: going to get blown out sometimes. I'm not going to
[59:17] Speaker 2: sit here and point fingers because we lost by a lot.
[59:23] Speaker 3: What's the top five teams in the West?
[59:25] Speaker 1: What's the top five teams in the West currently? We
[59:28] Speaker 1: have Thunder, Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, Suns.
[59:32] Speaker 3: What team do you think?
[59:33] Speaker 2: Warriors are also 12-8-2, so they would be.
[59:36] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Come on, man. I don't see.
[59:40] Speaker 3: They better than Houston to me.
[59:41] Speaker 1: Nope, because those boys ain't calling each other.
[59:44] Speaker 3: Where's the riff? Where's the riff?
[59:46] Speaker 2: Have you heard anything? Houston didn't break nothing up. Houston
[59:51] Speaker 2: didn't subtract something that was working for them last year.
[59:54] Speaker 3: Talent-wise?
[59:55] Speaker 2: The way the Rockets ended last season?
[59:58] Speaker 3: Right?
[59:58] Speaker 2: They were playing well at the end of last season.
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: They didn't change anything.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: Gil already owed me money. He said the Warriors was
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: going to be better than the Cavs.
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: So they didn't change nothing.
[1:00:07] Speaker 3: Remember that?
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: Cavs and Warriors.
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: So now you.
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: Want to make a bet? I'll say the Wolves go.
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: So they finish higher than Houston? Yeah. How much do
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: you want to bet? Damn shots. How much do you
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: want to bet? Higher or lower?
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: They can get aggressive.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: No. Motherfucker gonna talk to me like that?
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: You gonna let him do that shit?
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: No, I just want to know. Guarantee they finish, the
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: Rockets finish higher than the Wolves.
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: Bet. Oh, you already wrong about motherfucking the cornerback for
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: the Steelers.
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: What's the nigga name?
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: Russell Wilson.
[1:00:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, you owe me shit for that.
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: What'd I owe you for that?
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: Some shots. That's bet 500.
[1:00:46] Speaker 4: I didn't think he was gonna come back in.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: I thought they was gonna lay it on the other.
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say 1,000, Nick.
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: 500.
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: $ 1, 000.
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: You going to put that kind of faith in the Wolves?
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: Gentleman Shay.
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: I don't want your wife to come look for me. Right.
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, are you buying the T-Wolves?
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: I'll do $ 100. Are you buying the T-Wolves?
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: No, let's do the N-Word. The N-Word. The N-Word. The
[1:01:14] Speaker 3: N-Word fund.
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: I just never, just when you start calling players, when
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: you just start like.
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: So we pay each other N-word fund?
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:01:21] Speaker 3: When you start poking around.
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: Because he's going to start going crazy. That's fine, let it,
[1:01:25] Speaker 2: that's fine, let it. When you start poking around at
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: the team.
[1:01:28] Speaker 4: I ain't going to have to pay, he's going to
[1:01:29] Speaker 4: have to pay mine, so I might as well just
[1:01:30] Speaker 4: start letting it fly.
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: Every episode, I might just do about six of them episodes.
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: In three shots, in three shots.
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, are you buying the T-Wolves comeback? 55%
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: said no, they do not believe in the Timberwolves right now.
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: I do not know why.
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: But let's talk about the Clippers. You said, don't believe? Yeah,
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: they said 55%.
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: And that's all?
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: 55% is it? Okay, it is the chat. You know
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: I can be wishy-washy.
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: I don't, man. I'm just like, when you're just around
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: the league, when teams are sliding, you don't really rift.
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: When you hear the rift, you be like, ah, it's
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: more underlining than anything. All it takes is a couple
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: more pushes. It don't matter. Season over with.
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: We heard the riff, though, and they proceeded to win
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: three straight games.
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: You better than me, but if y'all not getting along, right?
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: It's a bigger issue.
[1:02:15] Speaker 3: It's a season.
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: We're going to win two, we're going to drop two,
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: we're going to this, this, this. What happens if they
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: lose to them Wizards? What you think the locker room
[1:02:22] Speaker 2: looks like? They ain't going to lose to the Wizards.
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: That's what breaks them up. When you lose to a
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: team you don't suppose to, since we're frontrunners... We only
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: like each other when we winning.
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: And when we lose, I'm blaming somebody.
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: So soon as we lose to teams we don't suppose to,
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: it's your fault.
[1:02:39] Speaker 1: It's your fault. It's your fault.
[1:02:40] Speaker 3: I ain't getting the ball.
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: I ain't doing this.
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: No matter. I could complain all day if my talent
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: is better than y'all's. I'm going to win no matter what.
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: Man, listen.
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: This right here.
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: Uh-oh. Draymond socked Jordan Poole and won a championship. Oh,
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: my God.
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: Three seconds.
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: Should have passed me the ball. Should have passed me
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: the ball. You don't want me to.
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: No, they didn't. They did win the championship.
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: The year that he knocked them out?
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, after.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: No, they didn't.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: I think the knockout was... 2020? Was after.
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: After.
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: The championship. And bags started getting distributed to the likes
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: of Wiggins and Jordan Poole.
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Come on, man. That duck in, you don't
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: pass me. I'm willing to get a three seconds.
[1:03:27] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: I'm willing to get a three seconds because you don't
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: want to give me the ball.
[1:03:30] Speaker 3: I played on the Wizards with you. Karan, Antoine. Come on, man. Yeah,
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: we was balling. Yeah, it was the first year. And
[1:03:41] Speaker 3: y'all was all fighting for stats and shit to make
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: the all-star game.
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: I was hurt. We talking about the next year. 10
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: games in the 500, that one.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: 10 games in.
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: The, the same talent, 10 games.
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: In the 500, motherfucker.
[1:03:53] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: Once you unhappy, once, like, I ducked in hard, I
[1:03:59] Speaker 2: just helped block, I ducked in hard, you sitting there,
[1:04:01] Speaker 2: and then I'm willing to sit here and get a
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: three-second call before you shoot the ball. That beat, that's internal.
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: It don't matter.
[1:04:09] Speaker 3: That talent don't matter no more. Yes, it does. It's
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: in everybody else's ass.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: That's internal.
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: It's like saying the Bucks not going to win.
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: You tell me to come set a pick and I'll
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: be like, nah, I'm good.
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: That's that shit. Even the Bucks fighting each other, they
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: ain't going to win neither. They ain't going to make
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: the playoffs neither. Just because they fucked up too. They
[1:04:26] Speaker 3: fighting internal.
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: Who fighting internal? With the coach and shit. And nobody
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: said they was off? That's not anything we're talking about.
[1:04:33] Speaker 1: But let's talk about the Clippers.
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: Clearly, Tyloo. Now let's stop fighting. They best player averaging
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: 32 and 12. Thank you.
[1:04:40] Speaker 3: Tell them why they're going to make it.
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: They best player averaging 30. Hey, say whatever you want to.
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: Thank you. That's why they're going to make it.
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: He got one.
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: So clearly Ty Lue leaving that blowout loss to the
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: Wolves in the rearview mirror. But let's talk about some
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: interesting comments he made recently about James Harden. So Ty
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: Lue said, even when we want to sit him down,
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: when we have four games or five nights, he doesn't
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: want to do it. So Harden struggled last night on
[1:05:05] Speaker 1: the second night of a back-to-back. He had five points,
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: three rounds, three assists, 25 minutes of action. But this
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: season he's played in every Clippers back-to-back. He's averaging 18 points,
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: 10 assists, eight rebounds in the second night of those back-to-backs.
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Clippers are three and three in those games. Is James
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: Harden rewriting his legacy? with this resurgent season with the
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: Clippers and having to basically carry and shoulder the brunt
[1:05:24] Speaker 1: of this with Kawhi still not able to play?
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: No, I mean, he's showing you who he's been this
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: whole time. Yeah. Right? He's been showing you he's a
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: basketball player that want to go out there and play basketball.
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: The narratives that, you know, non-basketball players write on these
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: guys is what's the problem. Yeah, for sure.
[1:05:48] Speaker 3: The narrative.
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: And James is a hooper, man.
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: Anybody that's like a superstar and still plays in the
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: Drew every year. Every year.
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: It's a hooper.
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: That is a criteria.
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see it. You don't see it. Man,
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: you see a lady every time, like on time.
[1:06:01] Speaker 3: You see a lady all the time, man. She's going
[1:06:03] Speaker 3: up on time.
[1:06:04] Speaker 2: Wow.
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: That is a central part of the process. But it's
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: just the big companies that say what they want going
[1:06:11] Speaker 3: to push these stories about.
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: Them, man.
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: You know, he do go out, but he do his thing, too, though.
[1:06:16] Speaker 1: You respect Harden for having that mentality, though?
[1:06:18] Speaker 3: I'm playing, man. Yeah, back home, you know, mom probably
[1:06:22] Speaker 3: getting on his ass, like, boy, leave them hoes alone,
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: get to that gym, you know. He's doing his thing.
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: Can we think about Harden playing on a back-to-back, especially
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: in light of the situation going on with the Clippers?
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: You said he averaged an 18, 10, and 8?
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: Yeah. Damn. Damn. 18-10-8 in the second night of back-to-backs.
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: Clippers are 3-3 in those games.
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: That's good, though.
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: Which I think is good, right? But you said, is
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: he rewriting his sort of thing? So what you said,
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: is he rewriting his legacy?
[1:06:58] Speaker 2: Or is he shifting the narrative around his legacy?
[1:07:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, like they said, we all know James like the hoop.
[1:07:06] Speaker 4: It ain't never been a secret whether he... Yeah, so
[1:07:09] Speaker 4: he's a hooper, man.
[1:07:10] Speaker 3: Like, he.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: One of them guys, no matter his age, no matter
[1:07:14] Speaker 1: if he can, he's going to go out and compete, man.
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: So that's just what it is.
[1:07:19] Speaker 4: And he understands that the team needs him right now.
[1:07:23] Speaker 4: They can't afford to sit out back-to-backs, right? They're 3-3.
[1:07:27] Speaker 4: Just imagine if he didn't play in those games. And
[1:07:29] Speaker 4: if he wasn't averaging 18, 10, and 8 in those games,
[1:07:33] Speaker 4: they might be 0-6 in those games, right?
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: I guess the big question, do you feel like Harden's
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: work ethic is underappreciated? because it hasn't led to a
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: title in his career. But he made the playoffs every season.
[1:07:44] Speaker 4: Because the negativity about him going out and partying and
[1:07:47] Speaker 4: all that, it overshadows that.
[1:07:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:07:49] Speaker 4: People don't think about what he did the previous hours
[1:07:55] Speaker 4: before he went out, right?
[1:07:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: Or, yeah.
[1:07:58] Speaker 1: Two hours before he... There's a whole day.
[1:08:02] Speaker 4: That this man has to work on his craft and
[1:08:05] Speaker 4: perfect his craft before.
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: Any club ever opens.
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: Right? Right. Before any club ever opens, he has, there's
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: a 18, 16 hour window before anything. So he has
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: time to work on his craft a lot. And the
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: funny part is, this is what, he scored 60. Then
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: while everyone left, he stayed in the gym two hours
[1:08:29] Speaker 2: working out. We got the video of it, him working
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: out and other players started working out too.
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: But then you want to say he had the club.
[1:08:36] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right after the game and the workout. Yeah.
[1:08:40] Speaker 3: What?
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: Like, no, not, not, oh, my.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: God, he worked out after he scored 60 to get
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: it in because he's going to go to the club, right?
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: He's like, okay, I worked out. I'm going to get
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: another workout. Then I'm going to enjoy myself, and then
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: I'll see if I can practice. Because the other 99.9%
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: get they 60, get they dinner, go to the club,
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: see you the next day. He's adding the extra, he's
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: adding the workout in. No, don't rip the, yeah, don't
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: rip the floor up. Let me go ahead, I got
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: a workout. And then.
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, so people, like I said, negativity.
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: You see what you want.
[1:09:16] Speaker 4: Sales, man, and people will, more focused on the negativity
[1:09:19] Speaker 4: of it than the actual, like I said, the time
[1:09:22] Speaker 4: that he's putting in, man. You don't get that good
[1:09:24] Speaker 4: and be able to do the things that he has
[1:09:26] Speaker 4: done in the NBA without working on your game.
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: Without putting the time.
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: In, right? People mad.
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: They wanted him to beat the Warriors and shit like that.
[1:09:35] Speaker 3: So that ain't going to happen, man. Speaking of.
[1:09:38] Speaker 2: No, no.
[1:09:39] Speaker 3: He put us out the Julie Championship.
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: That's not the biggest story here.
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: And of course.
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: No one is going to address it. But can media,
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: can y'all.
[1:09:53] Speaker 3: Say sorry to these players? Yeah.
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: For the narrative you pushed about them wanting to load manage. Yeah.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: And for the league.
[1:10:04] Speaker 2: To put a 65 game, I fucking told y'all it
[1:10:07] Speaker 2: was a conflict of interest. You put a 65 game
[1:10:11] Speaker 2: rule in because the players wanted to load manage. Everything
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: we've heard since then has been the team wanting to
[1:10:22] Speaker 2: sit a player. They're saying we've been wanting to sit him.
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: He refuses.
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: I told you, you're.
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: Now giving me a 65 rule and you're trying to
[1:10:35] Speaker 2: convince me to sit, which if you're convincing me to sit,
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: To get under this thing so I don't win the war,
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: so I don't get the super max, it benefits you.
[1:10:47] Speaker 2: So you use the push it, the players. But y'all
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: are telling these players to sit. Oh, it's better for
[1:10:54] Speaker 2: your career. Look, this is what the numbers say if
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: you sit and boom, boom, boom. A player's going to
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: be like, shit, cool. All right, fuck it.
[1:11:01] Speaker 3: All right?
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: Now, you know, the injury says, you know, four to
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: six weeks. You know, now that motherfucker's 12 to 16.
[1:11:07] Speaker 2: Because it's in my best interest. I saved money by
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: having you play 64 games.
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: And that's what happened. And now it's showing its head.
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: You over here coming to the media and it has
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: nothing to do with Ty Lue.
[1:11:22] Speaker 3: It's not about Ty Lue.
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: You're coming in and saying we're trying to get him
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: to sit.
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: And he refused. That's a different narrative.
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: They was pushing.
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: You pushed that motherfucker. Now apologize when they say, no,
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: we want to play. They telling us we need to play.
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: They sitting there and said, ah, don't look like you're
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: going to go hard today.
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: And Gil, you've been saying this, and that's been the narrative.
[1:11:45] Speaker 1: All these players are lazy. They want to take games off.
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: They don't want to do it. Certain situations, you talk
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: about Kawhi, that did lead to a championship with the Raptors,
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: not playing those back-to-backs, but that's a different situation dealing
[1:11:55] Speaker 1: with injury and managing injuries, but... For a guy like
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: Harden to be like, I don't care if it's four
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: games or five nights. I want to be out there
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: trying to help my team.
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: If you know star players, you're talking about guys who
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: are extreme.
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: It's competition.
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: I can be lingering. This is who I'm competing with
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: for all-star in voting.
[1:12:16] Speaker 1: And he out there, he had 35.
[1:12:17] Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I'm good today. No, dog, that's
[1:12:21] Speaker 3: not how that works. That's just not how it works.
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: You think Hallenberg, if he didn't think about the Supermatch,
[1:12:28] Speaker 2: you didn't think he would come back?
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: And then we saw that last season with the Hallenberg.
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: You didn't think Donovan Mitchell, if you look at exactly
[1:12:35] Speaker 2: how many games he missed, when he decided to come back,
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: it had all to do with the 65. He's sitting
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: there like, come on, I can go out there. He's
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: messing up his career because of the rule that they
[1:12:48] Speaker 2: put in because you told him to sit. It's all money-based.
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: You figured out a system, you figured out a loophole
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: that you can stop players from getting Supermax to benefit you,
[1:13:05] Speaker 2: and you have full control of it.
[1:13:09] Speaker 3: So you're going to get Supermax as you get the awards?
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: Because you only get the awards if you play 65 games.
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: I was thinking just about all NBA.
[1:13:21] Speaker 2: That's it. Because it's all NBA and all NBA is
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: off of 65 games. You twist your ankle and you
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: might start playing. It's your contract year.
[1:13:32] Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That doctor report going to be a little... No, no, no.
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: We good. We good. We holding on without you.
[1:13:41] Speaker 3: Man, labels is hard to shake anyway, too. So once
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: they label you, it's.
[1:13:46] Speaker 1: And then on the Kawhi side, Kawhi already ineligible for
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: any postseason awards this season. Missed 24 games. Kawhi hasn't
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: played a game this season, but did get his bread
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: this past January signing that three-year extension.
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: I forgot about Kawhi.
[1:13:57] Speaker 1: So is it a way to essentially strong-arm superstar, star-level
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: players into, hey, take less than the Supermax now, or
[1:14:05] Speaker 1: are we.
[1:14:05] Speaker 2: Going to get you done?
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: Got to get quarters on him.
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: No, it's just once you put a rule in on, like,
[1:14:15] Speaker 2: we know you're telling the players they can sit up.
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: Trust me, a player who's injured a little bit, a
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: little tired, right? You know, I'm averaging about 39, right?
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: You know, if I have one bad game, it's going
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: to go to 38, right?
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: If I'm playing the Wizards, I'm playing. Yep.
[1:14:33] Speaker 2: Right? Who's the number one team in defense?
[1:14:36] Speaker 1: If I'm playing Detroit Pistons.
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: You tell me you can sit these games, I'll sit
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: against them. See, that's going to be a struggle 28
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: right there. Wizards and Jazz, the worst teams in the
[1:14:49] Speaker 2: league defensively as of right now. Thunder Rockets, Magic, and Grizzlies,
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: top four teams defensively. So if you're telling me, hey,
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: pick which game you're going to sit, like I got
[1:14:59] Speaker 2: to pick? Or are you telling me, oh, you're going
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: to play against the Wizards, you're going to sit against
[1:15:04] Speaker 2: the Grizzlies?
[1:15:04] Speaker 3: Of course.
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: If you're telling me, play against the Grizzlies, sit against Wizards, no.
[1:15:10] Speaker 3: What's the average.
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: I'm not sitting against the Wizards.
[1:15:12] Speaker 3: What's the average amount of games that players normally play?
[1:15:14] Speaker 3: I normally play about 60 to 65. What's the average? When?
[1:15:19] Speaker 3: Each year.
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: Depends on who it is.
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: It's like most of the... Most of the.
[1:15:28] Speaker 2: Mid-level guys, most of your like, most of like your fourth, fifth,
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: sixth player, they playing like, what damn near, 78 maybe?
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: Maybe.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, they playing, yeah. Star players, I mean, star players today.
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: 75 to 82 games. 82, yeah.
[1:15:42] Speaker 2: The star players today, they got them around 68.
[1:15:45] Speaker 3: To about 61.
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought it was. 61 to 60.
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: 61 to 60.
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: Man, that's horrible if.
[1:15:55] Speaker 2: You're thinking about Supermax like, ah, yeah. Uh-huh, you twist
[1:15:58] Speaker 2: the angle, goddammit.
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, you twist one more angle, goddammit.
[1:16:01] Speaker 3: You get a groin pull, goddammit. Woo!
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: So the average All-Star in 2003 played 79.2 games per season.
[1:16:03] Speaker 3: 20 years later.
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: So in 2003, the average All-Star played 79 games a season.
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: In 2023, the average All-Star plays in 64.
[1:16:15] Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: So your average All-Star don't make, think about that, your
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: average All-Star don't make, don't qualify for Superman.
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: Which seems convenient for that.
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Why did they put that number?
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: If the average is 64.4, they did their math. That's
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're going through 65.
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: That's why I asked that.
[1:16:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, they did the numbers, man. They did the numbers.
[1:16:36] Speaker 3: That's why I asked that.
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, they're mathematicians over there.
[1:16:38] Speaker 1: Like, you're not going to tell me Luka.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: That's exactly why I asked that. Like, when you look
[1:16:43] Speaker 2: at players, like, you look at Luka's, like, they've been
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: load managing this man since he came in the league. Right?
[1:16:50] Speaker 2: You're talking about they've already shaved off 170 games from him,
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: which means he has two extra years on his career.
[1:17:04] Speaker 2: He's done missed about 160, 170 games. That's two fucking
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: years that's on the back end of his career. This
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: is a business now. I don't know about a little bit, though.
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: Huh? Not two years.
[1:17:18] Speaker 2: Yeah. He kind of... What I'm saying is, if everybody
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: plays 79 games.
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: Once he gets about 30-something.
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: That's two seasons right now. He ain't done playing. No,
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, if everybody plays 79 games, right,
[1:17:30] Speaker 2: the average playing 79 games, if I'm taking off If
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: I'm taking off for your career, I done took off
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: 160-something games for your career. I get that in the
[1:17:39] Speaker 2: back end. That's less wear and tear. So instead of
[1:17:43] Speaker 2: you retiring that damn 34 and you sitting here like this,
[1:17:47] Speaker 2: by the time your career over, you ain't doing this
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: about 38.
[1:17:51] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, is Harden's legacy underappreciated? Good job, chat. 72%
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: said yes, 28% said no. So let's talk about the
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: varsity team in Los Angeles. You thought the Clippers' blowout
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: was bad. Unfortunately, the Lakers got beaten even worse last night.
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: I blame Pat Riley for taking LeBron's cookies. I know
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: you want to talk later today, Kenny. I see you
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: were in a good mood walking in here. So I
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: guess I have to read the stats for the game.
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: Let's start with the good. LeBron had 29 points, 12
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: for 18 shooting to go along with eight assists in
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: 29 minutes. I would like to stop now, but I'm
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: actually obligated to keep going. No other Lakers scored more
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: than 14 points. AD scored a season-low eight points on
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: three for 14 shooting in 31 minutes of action. On
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: the he side, Tyler Hero had 31 points to lead
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: all scores, including... Nine threes in the game.
[1:18:43] Speaker 3: Great corner right there.
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: Here's one of them, Bill. And the Heat won by
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: a score of 134 to 99.
[1:18:50] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: That's what we need.
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: 134. It's a hero, something like a hero. 134 to 93,
[1:18:53] Speaker 3: 41-point margin of defeat. I want to say that's like
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: the 11th worst in Lakers franchise history.
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: Just times in that game, they looked like they did
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: not give a fuck, Gil. No, I'm sitting here looking
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: like the only person that looked like he was playing was...
[1:19:14] Speaker 2: Any hero? No, what was the name right here? Gabe Vincent. Huh?
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: Shamar Moore.
[1:19:20] Speaker 2: Yeah. Run this video again.
[1:19:22] Speaker 3: Look at.
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: Do we have to, Gil?
[1:19:25] Speaker 3: I ain't never heard somebody say them words, man.
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: Okay, then watch it. Watch it. Now, look at the defense.
[1:19:31] Speaker 3: Right, look. They don't know.
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: Okay, does it look.
[1:19:33] Speaker 3: I'm good.
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:19:35] Speaker 3: There we go.
[1:19:35] Speaker 2: Nobody played. Hell, look at that. Okay.
[1:19:38] Speaker 3: Where do you see Gabe Vincent at?
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: Okay, come to the lane. Watch it.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: I'll show you.
[1:19:44] Speaker 3: Look at that line.
[1:19:45] Speaker 2: Look at it. Switch it.
[1:19:46] Speaker 3: I'm going to die.
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: Mm.
[1:19:50] Speaker 1: Watch this.
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: Look, fast break.
[1:19:52] Speaker 3: Look at that. Yeah. Look fast. Trying to take a charge.
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: At the three-point line. Okay, come on. Look.
[1:20:00] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: Look at this.
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:20:03] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: Not even hard effort.
[1:20:07] Speaker 3: Look at this. Who got him?
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: Watch.
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: You're going to see Gabe. He's going to be the
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: only one.
[1:20:12] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: Now, here come Gabe.
[1:20:15] Speaker 3: Hold on, hey.
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: Look at this. Get through that.
[1:20:19] Speaker 3: Look at that.
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: We got to run it back again, though. Hey, hold on.
[1:20:21] Speaker 2: That's the hardest defense you see the whole time. Run
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: it back all the way. Start it all the way over.
[1:20:26] Speaker 3: The whole video, right? Don't go under.
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: And watch LeBron.
[1:20:28] Speaker 3: Hold on. Watch LeBron's reaction on every bat.
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: Watch LeBron, please. Every shot, just watch him, right?
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: That's LeBron for him, too.
[1:20:36] Speaker 1: No, just watch him winning the game. Just watch his
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: reaction on all of them. This shit is going to
[1:20:40] Speaker 1: be so funny. Should have traded all of you.
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: Yep, basically.
[1:20:47] Speaker 3: Who's in the game?
[1:20:48] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[1:20:49] Speaker 2: Hold on. Here we go.
[1:20:51] Speaker 1: It's finna get worse.
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: Look. Look.
[1:20:52] Speaker 3: Look.
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: Look. Hold on.
[1:20:54] Speaker 3: That's one.
[1:20:55] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: Here come another one.
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: Watch.
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: Watch.
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: Look.
[1:20:59] Speaker 3: Look at it.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: Look at it.
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: Look at it. Look at it.
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: Look at it.
[1:21:03] Speaker 2: He ain't moved yet.
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: Look at it. Watch it. Here come another one. Watch it.
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: Another reaction.
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[1:21:12] Speaker 3: One more time, Brian.
[1:21:15] Speaker 2: It seems like you're taking a little too much pleasure.
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: Doing it.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: Disappointed like a motherfucker, man. And some elder abuse.
[1:21:25] Speaker 4: No, because he had 29. He had to try on
[1:21:27] Speaker 4: the other end, right? And they had to score. Every
[1:21:31] Speaker 4: one that went in, he just got even more deflated.
[1:21:33] Speaker 4: That's how that bitch went in. Damn. Shit.
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: Out there playing with his homies.
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: Playing by himself.
[1:21:43] Speaker 3: When you playing with your trash homies, you by yourself.
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: 24-0.
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: That's the second half. That's the second half. That's when
[1:21:49] Speaker 1: he kicked in, right?
[1:21:50] Speaker 2: Yep.
[1:21:51] Speaker 1: So after the game, Lakers legend James Worthy reacted like
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: all Lakers fans did with extreme disappointment.
[1:21:58] Speaker 7: This trend is not cool. And it's just not cool.
[1:22:03] Speaker 7: I mean, they need to get on the bus tonight.
[1:22:06] Speaker 7: and get some White Castle burgers and drive to Atlanta.
[1:22:12] Speaker 3: And they need to think.
[1:22:13] Speaker 7: About who they are and what they need to do
[1:22:18] Speaker 7: because what they're doing right now ain't even close to
[1:22:21] Speaker 7: Laker basketball.
[1:22:22] Speaker 3: Not even close.
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: James Worthy saying they need to get on the bus,
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: get some White Castle, drive to Atlanta. Driving distance from
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: Miami to Atlanta, about ten and a half hours. Not
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: sure if that is the.
[1:22:34] Speaker 3: They got White Castle in Miami? I don't know, but
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: I know that... They got it.
[1:22:39] Speaker 2: Along the way. They got some White in Miami, but
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: it ain't Castle. They got to be careful on how
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: fast they pick that up because.
[1:22:47] Speaker 3: You on the bus. That's going to run right through you.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: They got some snow in Atlanta. It ain't necessarily White
[1:22:54] Speaker 1: Castle out there in Miami.
[1:22:56] Speaker 3: Shit, that butt's up. Here's what J.J.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: Redick had to say after the blowout loss last night.
[1:23:03] Speaker 8: It's easy to not want the ownership, particularly when it's embarrassing.
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed. We're all embarrassed.
[1:23:15] Speaker 8: That's not a game that I thought we had the
[1:23:26] Speaker 8: right fight, the right professionalism.
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: Man, y'all was in Miami, bro.
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: Miami wins the game. Not sure what was.
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: Lost in translation.
[1:23:37] Speaker 8: There has to be some ownership on the court, and
[1:23:39] Speaker 8: I'll take all the ownership in the world.
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: This is my team, and I lead it, and I'm embarrassed. So,
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: Lakers outscored by 70 points over their last two games.
[1:23:50] Speaker 1: That's their worst point differential over any two-game stretch in
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: the history of the franchise. Even the Robert Sacre, Ryan
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: Kelly Lakers never experienced such a back-to-back humbling.
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, we cooked that game.
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: Who deserves the blame for the Lakers' struggles? Points that
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: were pointed to coaching, Darvham, I think, got a brunt
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: of it.
[1:24:09] Speaker 3: Vogel did.
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[1:24:13] Speaker 3: When? Hold on.
[1:24:15] Speaker 2: When? Y'all got to start putting time dates on it.
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: Show me articles.
[1:24:19] Speaker 3: About what?
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: Because I see it, 12 and 13. Show me when
[1:24:24] Speaker 2: we was talking shit about ham and them this early.
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: That shit didn't kick in until January. I remember because
[1:24:32] Speaker 2: I was part of it.
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: January, when we went 3 and 15.
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: What's going on, ham?
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: We baked the ham. No, we were celebrating.
[1:24:40] Speaker 3: No, that was in the ham.
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: There were reports, though, that there was some... Tension and
[1:24:46] Speaker 1: fraction in the organization.
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: In December.
[1:24:48] Speaker 1: Players not dabbing in the locker room.
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: In November.
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: Writing on the board, not enough information. In November? Yes. November?
[1:24:54] Speaker 2: No, we wanted to cut. When he started starting, like,
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: fucking Cam and all them.
[1:24:59] Speaker 3: That was after the game.
[1:25:00] Speaker 2: That was after.
[1:25:02] Speaker 1: Got the nickname Pockets, I believe.
[1:25:03] Speaker 2: You just making this shit up now. So who did
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: they play the game before that?
[1:25:07] Speaker 1: So who did they lose? The Timberwolves was. So the
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: game before that.
[1:25:10] Speaker 2: So they wasn't on the back-to-back.
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: There was a day in between, but can I just mention...
[1:25:15] Speaker 1: They had a day in between, right? Miami, a fun city,
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: a lot to explore.
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[1:25:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a day in between. Couple of them dudes, probably, yeah.
[1:25:23] Speaker 3: More than likely.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: When did they get there? Wednesday?
[1:25:25] Speaker 1: They played the Timberwolves on Monday and then.
[1:25:29] Speaker 3: When did we get there?
[1:25:30] Speaker 2: We got... We left there Friday. So that means we
[1:25:34] Speaker 2: got there Saturday morning. We played Monday. We played at Minnesota.
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: We played at Minnesota. We left Minnesota.
[1:25:41] Speaker 3: We got the fuck out of Minnesota. They went to Miami.
[1:25:43] Speaker 3: I'm saying went to Miami.
[1:25:45] Speaker 1: They went to Miami. Turned up Monday night. Potentially turned
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: up Tuesday night. But they went to Miami.
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: Before you go to Miami, you're like, I can't wait
[1:25:53] Speaker 3: to get to Miami.
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: They got their doors blew off because they was ready
[1:25:57] Speaker 2: to go to Miami. Then got to Miami and enjoyed
[1:26:00] Speaker 2: Miami and got their.
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: The rest of the doors blew off.
[1:26:04] Speaker 3: Boom! Right?
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: We know. See, we know that. See, y'all talking about
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: y'all lost by 70.
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: We telling you what it look like.
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: Soon as we seen the schedule, we playing Timberwolves like, hey,
[1:26:17] Speaker 2: so look, what time the club close?
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: Hey, what time we land in Miami?
[1:26:20] Speaker 3: What time? Reppin' folk.
[1:26:22] Speaker 9: What?
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: Hey, tell them how the bottle's ready, everything.
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: Straight from the airport.
[1:26:28] Speaker 2: Straight from the airport. Leave the luggage.
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: Sir, you're leaving the game in the woods dressed in
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: your Miami fit.
[1:26:34] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:26:34] Speaker 3: Okay. We're going to have my coat on.
[1:26:38] Speaker 2: We're going to be like, we know y'all going.
[1:26:40] Speaker 3: We're in Minnesota.
[1:26:41] Speaker 1: It's cold right now, right?
[1:26:42] Speaker 2: It's cold in Minnesota, right?
[1:26:43] Speaker 3: You know what we look like walking in the gym.
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: You know what we look like walking in the gym.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: All they chains on. Dudes ready. Hey, there's dudes that
[1:26:52] Speaker 2: don't never dress up, right? Dudes that don't wear team
[1:26:55] Speaker 2: sweats to the game and shit. Listen, them the dudes,
[1:26:58] Speaker 2: you like, oh, yeah. Oh, you got something coming tonight.
[1:27:00] Speaker 1: You got something coming tonight.
[1:27:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. So we just going to Miami, man. So this
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: is the thing, right? You got your guys that know
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: how to do it, right? Know how to go out
[1:27:11] Speaker 2: and still show up and do their job, right? Because
[1:27:14] Speaker 2: we didn't do it in mass. Listen, know when to eat,
[1:27:17] Speaker 2: get that nap in. So we didn't master the game
[1:27:19] Speaker 2: day ritual of partying and playing and doing our job, right?
[1:27:24] Speaker 4: Some dudes ain't mastered it yet. Them dudes, they don't
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: know when to go to bed.
[1:27:29] Speaker 2: They stand up way past the time they normally stay up, right?
[1:27:34] Speaker 4: Them dudes normally in the bed by 11. They go
[1:27:36] Speaker 4: to bed, they went to bed at 4.30.
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: 4.30, yeah.
[1:27:40] Speaker 3: She probably just.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: They all throwing.
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: Off, right?
[1:27:42] Speaker 1: From there straight to goddamn shoot around.
[1:27:44] Speaker 2: They all throwing off. Just sitting there just... They normally
[1:27:47] Speaker 2: have breakfast, dude. They ain't had time to eat. After
[1:27:50] Speaker 2: the shoot around, you trying to take your nap. You
[1:27:52] Speaker 2: done overslept. You supposed to be on the first bus.
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: Now you're on the second bus.
[1:27:56] Speaker 3: Right? So it's dog. It's a thing, man.
[1:28:01] Speaker 1: Miami undefeated, bro. But you have all Tuesday to recover.
[1:28:04] Speaker 1: Are those guys you think going.
[1:28:05] Speaker 3: Out Tuesday night as well? No, that's not how it works.
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: Because Tuesday is still, like, we just got here. We
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: didn't recover? Because we didn't enjoy the whole night. We
[1:28:17] Speaker 2: got to the spot late, right? We rushed, listen, we
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: rushed and drunk them two bottles. Right?
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: You still got something, though. Not Tuesday.
[1:28:27] Speaker 3: You still got something, though.
[1:28:29] Speaker 2: Tuesday night, Tuesday night, hey, we got seven bottles on
[1:28:33] Speaker 2: the table instead of two.
[1:28:34] Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Tuesday night.
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: We didn't, it's like, fuck the game.
[1:28:39] Speaker 3: You got to see me longer than I was. We
[1:28:42] Speaker 3: slept all two.
[1:28:42] Speaker 2: We got a whole nother outfit. We slept all two.
[1:28:45] Speaker 2: We still drunk because we got, you know, we hit
[1:28:47] Speaker 2: them back quick, so it hit us late. So we
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: went to, so we sleep. Tuesday until about 5.
[1:28:56] Speaker 1: We waking up around 5.
[1:28:57] Speaker 3: All right, good.
[1:28:58] Speaker 2: All right, shit was rough last night.
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: What we doing?
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: Where y'all at? All right, we're going to go to
[1:29:02] Speaker 2: Prime 112. Right, we're going to go to Prime 112
[1:29:05] Speaker 2: about 8. Pre-game.
[1:29:06] Speaker 3: We might go to Willie's first. Pre-game.
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we're going to go there. Then I got
[1:29:11] Speaker 2: us a table. And then you're doing it all again.
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: Then we're going to dinner to pre-game.
[1:29:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: Dinner is pre-game.
[1:29:16] Speaker 2: We're not staying until 4? But we might leave out
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: about 15. We went harder, though.
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: But we definitely went harder than we did them two hours.
[1:29:23] Speaker 1: So the Monday night, Tuesday a.m. was basically the shoot-around,
[1:29:27] Speaker 1: and then that Tuesday night is the after game.
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: Don't dare talk about shoot-around at 10.
[1:29:32] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Coaches be cool.
[1:29:34] Speaker 2: Coaches be cool.
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: Sam Van Gundy, shoot-around.
[1:29:39] Speaker 3: Nah, I ain't had that. Bro, we sit here like, what?
[1:29:43] Speaker 2: But you see, you're talking about red eyes. What?
[1:29:46] Speaker 3: What?
[1:29:46] Speaker 2: Just sitting there, just smelling like, hey, dudes, it smelled
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: just like the bar in that bitch. Right?
[1:29:53] Speaker 3: I'm going to.
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: Just stay up.
[1:29:54] Speaker 2: That's what you do.
[1:29:55] Speaker 3: I'm going to just stay up.
[1:29:56] Speaker 2: Fuck it.
[1:29:57] Speaker 3: Ain't no point.
[1:29:58] Speaker 2: It smelled like the floor behind the bar in that bitch.
[1:30:02] Speaker 2: Dudes in there trying to sweat that shit out. Man,
[1:30:05] Speaker 2: you got a dude walking through, dude disappear for a
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: couple minutes, where you can have somebody go in the
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: back and.
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: Let it fly, and then threw up in.
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: The back, come back, you got a Gatorade, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: Long night, huh?
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the coaches even know. They be like, long night, huh?
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, the chair's like, so y'all
[1:30:22] Speaker 2: ain't professionals?
[1:30:24] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: No.
[1:30:25] Speaker 3: It's Miami.
[1:30:26] Speaker 1: We trying to tell you how that looks.
[1:30:29] Speaker 2: Very professional. Very professional.
[1:30:31] Speaker 3: Go look at the games we played.
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:30:33] Speaker 3: That's how it's done.
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: That's how you get barbecued as a team, right? Some
[1:30:37] Speaker 2: of them don't know how to get home and do
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: all that stuff. If A.I. went dead, we know he's
[1:30:43] Speaker 2: going to sleep all day, 55. That's not his problem.
[1:30:47] Speaker 1: Lou Will might be done.
[1:30:50] Speaker 3: He hung out with A.I., but his ass had to
[1:30:55] Speaker 3: be the shoot-around at 10, so he don't get the A.I.
[1:30:58] Speaker 2: Sleep. Yeah. For sure.
[1:31:00] Speaker 3: I know that.
[1:31:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a B.A.
[1:31:02] Speaker 3: I know that feeling.
[1:31:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't trust. Where did you have that feeling at?
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: A couple of places. We coming in at 6 a.m.? Yeah,
[1:31:10] Speaker 2: I'm not going to shoot around.
[1:31:11] Speaker 1: Was there somebody you were hanging out with that you
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: shouldn't have been hanging out with?
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: Me?
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: See you at the game?
[1:31:16] Speaker 3: I'm not going to shoot around.
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: I'll see you at the game. I don't got to
[1:31:19] Speaker 2: go to shoot around. He got to go to shoot around.
[1:31:21] Speaker 3: You're 12? Yeah.
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: Not going to shoot around, bro.
[1:31:24] Speaker 3: How does that conversation happen?
[1:31:26] Speaker 2: I'm not going to shoot around.
[1:31:27] Speaker 1: Are you telling the coach? No, the trainer.
[1:31:30] Speaker 3: Fuck the coach. They don't run shit.
[1:31:32] Speaker 1: Can you say he's not coming?
[1:31:33] Speaker 2: Fuck the coach.
[1:31:34] Speaker 3: He's not going to be here.
[1:31:35] Speaker 2: And you call the trainer. They call you.
[1:31:36] Speaker 3: Man, listen.
[1:31:37] Speaker 2: I ain't going to make it today, dog. What time
[1:31:39] Speaker 2: is the second bus? What time is the second bus? Man,
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: what time is the second bus? Who getting on the first? Man,
[1:31:49] Speaker 2: I'm maximizing that day. I'm maximizing sleep and eating opportunities. Listen, man, hey.
[1:31:57] Speaker 2: The only thing that saves L.A. is because they close
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: at 2. Or L.A. would be.
[1:32:02] Speaker 3: Or L.A. would be.
[1:32:03] Speaker 1: They turn the lights on at 1.45.
[1:32:05] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:32:06] Speaker 3: Are you, like, the only.
[1:32:07] Speaker 2: Team that, like... It just all depends on players.
[1:32:11] Speaker 3: It's your personnel on your team.
[1:32:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:32:12] Speaker 3: Right? That Miami affects you. And it all depends.
[1:32:16] Speaker 2: Like, some coaches, like, they look at their schedule.
[1:32:19] Speaker 1: First thing they look at is Miami.
[1:32:21] Speaker 3: Like, how many days... Oh, how many days we getting
[1:32:22] Speaker 3: this bitch? R.L.A.
[1:32:23] Speaker 2: R.L.A., yeah.
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: And then some... So this is the way they'll do it, right?
[1:32:27] Speaker 3: Some.
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: magically it'll be mechanical issues on the plane when we
[1:32:31] Speaker 2: getting ready to leave.
[1:32:33] Speaker 1: To go to Miami.
[1:32:34] Speaker 2: Or L.A. Or L.A.
[1:32:36] Speaker 1: Or New York.
[1:32:37] Speaker 2: So New York, Miami, L.A., Toronto. Unless you have a
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: whole bunch of Atlanta boys. Unless you got a bunch
[1:32:44] Speaker 2: of Atlanta boys on your team. Or, listen, you might
[1:32:47] Speaker 2: get in a fight going through customs. Listen, dog, we
[1:32:50] Speaker 2: trying to get through customs.
[1:32:52] Speaker 3: As fast as possible.
[1:32:56] Speaker 2: Ooh.
[1:32:57] Speaker 1: Hey, Toronto is the weird one because.
[1:33:00] Speaker 2: What happens is because we're a team, there's always one
[1:33:04] Speaker 2: motherfucker on the team that holds up everybody because he
[1:33:08] Speaker 2: got some issues that nobody know about. He got some
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: legal issues that they didn't put him in the private room.
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: And we got to sit on the bus and wait
[1:33:15] Speaker 2: on you. And don't let it be the main guy,
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: because he already done said, don't leave me. Yeah, you
[1:33:21] Speaker 2: can't leave him.
[1:33:22] Speaker 3: It's a whole issue.
[1:33:24] Speaker 1: Oh, you know you leave him.
[1:33:25] Speaker 3: He ain't playing. It's a whole issue. It's a whole issue, right?
[1:33:29] Speaker 2: So, no, but they, so they try to, so, and
[1:33:31] Speaker 2: then we'll yell right up there, hey, especially when we're
[1:33:33] Speaker 2: on the plane, y'all trying to hold the bus, and
[1:33:34] Speaker 2: they got to load the bus.
[1:33:35] Speaker 1: Man, you ain't stopping nothing.
[1:33:37] Speaker 2: Yep. Oh, they still going at you.
[1:33:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
[1:33:41] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:33:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, right up to you. Hey, man, might as well
[1:33:45] Speaker 2: get this bird in the air, dog.
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: That's the funniest thing, yeah.
[1:33:49] Speaker 3: Certain City, same team.
[1:33:50] Speaker 2: What's the funniest? All three different teams.
[1:33:53] Speaker 3: Same shit, right?
[1:33:54] Speaker 1: We ain't even going to the hotel.
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: All right, man.
[1:33:57] Speaker 4: I don't know how their team was. Listen, we ain't
[1:33:59] Speaker 4: even going to the hotel, bro. We got the cars
[1:34:02] Speaker 4: on the tarmac.
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: Where?
[1:34:04] Speaker 3: Toronto?
[1:34:05] Speaker 2: Denver. Sure. Our team in Denver? We got the cars on...
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: We land at LAX? At Signature, we got the car
[1:34:11] Speaker 2: on the tarmac. Miami, we got the car on the tarmac, dog.
[1:34:14] Speaker 3: I don't see how you can do that.
[1:34:15] Speaker 2: We all.
[1:34:16] Speaker 4: Listen, and this is how crazy we are. We all
[1:34:19] Speaker 4: go into the same place. It's six cars outside.
[1:34:24] Speaker 2: It's six SUVs sitting right outside, and we all going
[1:34:29] Speaker 2: to the same place.
[1:34:31] Speaker 3: They want to make their own personal calls to their work. Hey, baby,
[1:34:33] Speaker 3: I'll be on the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:34:37] Speaker 6: Right?
[1:34:38] Speaker 1: It's like, it's crazy.
[1:34:39] Speaker 4: Like, and I'm telling y'all, certain dudes that ain't used,
[1:34:41] Speaker 4: so we had a teammate that wasn't used to going out.
[1:34:45] Speaker 2: That's where it messed up.
[1:34:46] Speaker 3: Went out with us. That's where it messed up.
[1:34:47] Speaker 2: And had a horrible game.
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: That's where it messed up.
[1:34:50] Speaker 2: Had a horrible game.
[1:34:50] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: No, you're not allowed no more. Not allowed no more.
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: You're messing up for us.
[1:34:54] Speaker 3: That's where it messed up at because people can't take it.
[1:34:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, dudes, they don't know how. They don't know how. We've,
[1:34:58] Speaker 1: certain dudes mastered.
[1:35:00] Speaker 2: It, right?
[1:35:00] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:35:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's get back to our... So, let's go to
[1:35:04] Speaker 2: the next subject. I done gave our excuse for our Lakers. Now,
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: move on.
[1:35:10] Speaker 3: Move on.
[1:35:10] Speaker 2: I done, the chat already know. Y'all going to play
[1:35:13] Speaker 2: Atlanta next?
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: We playing Atlanta next?
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: What? Same thing.
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: Magic City, here we come. 0-3, goddammit, on this road. Boy,
[1:35:24] Speaker 1: they might hit all of them. Nah, nah, nah.
[1:35:26] Speaker 3: We could beat Atlanta even going out.
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: That's what we say. Atlanta won five straight games.
[1:35:34] Speaker 3: That's what we say. That's why we go out. We
[1:35:37] Speaker 3: can beat Atlanta.
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: Get out of that motherfucker.
[1:35:40] Speaker 3: Miami with LeBron D.
[1:35:43] Speaker 2: Wade. Two Trae Youngs on this bitch. I'm giving you
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: the excuse for Atlanta. God damn it, Magic City, here
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: we come. So they both LeBron gonna have dirty the
[1:35:57] Speaker 2: rest of us over 45 we was with That's too
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: straight strip club city.
[1:36:04] Speaker 3: Miami got the cold one then Atlanta all that's.
[1:36:07] Speaker 2: Over Y'all wonder why the Clippers couldn't win in a bubble.
[1:36:11] Speaker 2: The reason is they functioned Yes as a strip club
[1:36:16] Speaker 2: city like so they like Miami and Atlanta, New York,
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: that trip right there, them boys all got 30.
[1:36:23] Speaker 3: They all balling.
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: That 2020 Clipper team.
[1:36:30] Speaker 3: Oh, with Paul George.
[1:36:31] Speaker 2: Paul George, Lou. Oh, yeah, that team right there, they
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: functioning rock stars.
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: What fucked them up, mental problems is they can't go nowhere.
[1:36:40] Speaker 3: The work can't come.
[1:36:41] Speaker 1: They can't go to the strip club. They got to
[1:36:43] Speaker 1: sit there and be professionals.
[1:36:45] Speaker 2: And they're like, this shit real. I need a bottle
[1:36:48] Speaker 2: of lap dance for me to go out there and
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: go dirty. I got motherfuckers calling me.
[1:36:51] Speaker 1: You all right?
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, man. What you doing?
[1:36:54] Speaker 3: I said, Standing on this balcony thinking about fucking jumping,
[1:36:58] Speaker 3: thinking about life.
[1:37:00] Speaker 2: This what y'all do? Shit, I can't. You heard him?
[1:37:03] Speaker 2: I can't take this bubble shit, man. What's wrong? FaceTime
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: me when you get to the spot, dog. You can
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: say it like this.
[1:37:10] Speaker 3: Man, you got to come up with a plan to
[1:37:13] Speaker 3: get up out this. They're trying to break out of jail.
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: They're trying to break out of jail, man.
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: What?
[1:37:18] Speaker 3: I got the plane here.
[1:37:19] Speaker 2: Man, they told us that we was going to shovel
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: out this. I ain't getting no plane with you, Ray.
[1:37:26] Speaker 2: They called pilots, Ray.
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: Man, they seen loose too. What the hell are you doing?
[1:37:31] Speaker 1: Where the hell do you think you going?
[1:37:35] Speaker 2: Imagine wanting to drive. You ain't got no license.
[1:37:38] Speaker 3: Hey, man.
[1:37:38] Speaker 1: Just imagine having.
[1:37:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, your Denver team, that year. That year, dog, with me, Melo, Chuck, J.R.,
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: that team. That team, damn.
[1:37:51] Speaker 3: In the bubble.
[1:37:52] Speaker 2: Have you guys ever considered a good Bible study, perhaps?
[1:37:54] Speaker 2: Instead of going to the club. Think about our Wizard team.
[1:37:57] Speaker 2: We had Bible studies. Think about our Wizard team.
[1:37:59] Speaker 1: We had Bible studies.
[1:38:01] Speaker 2: Deshawn.
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: Deshawn. Andre Blott.
[1:38:05] Speaker 3: The Rock Boys.
[1:38:05] Speaker 2: Them dudes. If we was sitting in the bubble, oh,
[1:38:08] Speaker 2: my God.
[1:38:08] Speaker 3: Y'all was the Rock Boys.
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. Bruhs. Oh, that's what they were.
[1:38:12] Speaker 3: Somebody had to... They had to have their shit locked. Oh,
[1:38:16] Speaker 3: I forgot.
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: Our shit was so bad, they had to automatically call
[1:38:20] Speaker 2: the hotel, lock the minibars. Yes. Minibars locked.
[1:38:24] Speaker 3: Take the motherfucker out.
[1:38:26] Speaker 1: Take him out the room.
[1:38:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: Yes. And then this room is not locked. to order him.
[1:38:30] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:38:31] Speaker 4: I've had a couple teammates that was on those restrictions.
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: A minibar restriction.
[1:38:35] Speaker 3: Take the minibar.
[1:38:36] Speaker 2: Everybody else got a minibar in their room except you.
[1:38:38] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: You know what he going to do?
[1:38:40] Speaker 3: Hey, man, you got a minibar?
[1:38:41] Speaker 1: Absolutely. You got your minibar.
[1:38:43] Speaker 2: We so horrible.
[1:38:44] Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: Come on over.
[1:38:46] Speaker 2: What? Let's hold this teammate. Come on, man. You can
[1:38:52] Speaker 2: have mine, man. God awful. Don't give two shits.
[1:38:55] Speaker 1: We know it's going to fuck you up tomorrow. We
[1:38:58] Speaker 1: don't care.
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: Teammate, get on.
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: Listen, this is a true story. I don't want to
[1:39:02] Speaker 4: call no names. Teammate, get on. No, you ain't supposed
[1:39:04] Speaker 4: to be. Get on the plane, though. You know, we
[1:39:05] Speaker 4: got the little just clinking.
[1:39:07] Speaker 3: Clink, clink.
[1:39:08] Speaker 2: Just carry on.
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: Just clinking.
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: Like, dude.
[1:39:11] Speaker 2: He's sitting back there with all the lures. He didn't
[1:39:13] Speaker 2: empty the... Empty, just.
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: Few teammates, many bars.
[1:39:16] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:39:16] Speaker 2: Because he couldn't have here. He didn't went to like
[1:39:18] Speaker 2: three or four teammates and emptied, got the lure joints.
[1:39:21] Speaker 2: He just clinking on the plane. Go back.
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: We heard of minutes restrictions, but many bar restrictions.
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: You go to the rookie service. You go to the
[1:39:29] Speaker 2: room service. Listen, they had your name tapped, your alias tapped,
[1:39:33] Speaker 2: your room number tapped. So you couldn't even order.
[1:39:37] Speaker 3: Yes. Like, it was that bad for some players.
[1:39:40] Speaker 2: Like, that's what I said. So the first thing they'll
[1:39:42] Speaker 2: do is go to the younger player.
[1:39:43] Speaker 3: Yep, go to my room. Go to the younger player.
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, young fella, let me get you.
[1:39:47] Speaker 3: Here's the 100.
[1:39:47] Speaker 2: Yep. Give him the per diem envelope or something. It's
[1:39:55] Speaker 2: a one-day road trip. It's $ 72.
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: It's $ 72 per diem.
[1:39:59] Speaker 2: You're happy over there. You can have my ticket every trip. Yeah.
[1:40:07] Speaker 2: Come on, clean this shit out.
[1:40:09] Speaker 1: So, Gil, the chat is saying that you went on
[1:40:11] Speaker 1: this long-term, very beautiful content, very great to hear, but
[1:40:14] Speaker 1: you're deflecting. from the real issue at hand on a.
[1:40:17] Speaker 3: Loss to injury.
[1:40:17] Speaker 6: Duh!
[1:40:17] Speaker 2: Duh! That's, yeah, you're supposed to move on. That's what
[1:40:20] Speaker 2: I said. We don't even need to talk about this
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: when they lose to the Hawks. I already talked about
[1:40:25] Speaker 2: what's going to happen.
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: You got to talk about this. You got to talk
[1:40:28] Speaker 3: about this.
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: Lakers 12-10.
[1:40:29] Speaker 2: Why do we need to have an interview?
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: Because this is, this is, they old now. Lakers 12-10
[1:40:33] Speaker 1: through 22 games. They were 13-9 last season. We asked
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: the chat, who deserves the blame for the Lakers' struggles?
[1:40:38] Speaker 3: 46% said the front office. Here we go.
[1:40:43] Speaker 1: 29%, though, said LeBron.
[1:40:44] Speaker 2: Who the fuck put LeBron name in there?
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. I had nothing to do with the... Y'all
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: know I didn't do shit with that poll, Bron. If
[1:40:50] Speaker 1: you're watching this, I had nothing to.
[1:40:51] Speaker 2: Do with the poll. Why you didn't ask me?
[1:40:52] Speaker 3: It's supposed to be the front office, JJ. So JJ's... Ham,
[1:40:55] Speaker 3: because it used to be his team.
[1:40:56] Speaker 1: JJ's third at 12%.
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: Ham, because it used to be his team.
[1:40:59] Speaker 3: And then you throw in Little D-Love.
[1:41:05] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:41:05] Speaker 6: Now do it with those four. Let's see who we
[1:41:08] Speaker 6: come up with. We will update the chat. God damn it.
[1:41:10] Speaker 6: Little D-Lo, please. As Nick has requested, not D-Lo, Little D.
[1:41:17] Speaker 6: But in all sincerity, Gil, there's been.
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: Talk, this roster now, seventh place, seventh place.
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say while we was bullshitting.
[1:41:27] Speaker 2: Front office, absolutely bull.
[1:41:29] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, front office.
[1:41:29] Speaker 1: What office?
[1:41:31] Speaker 2: Changes was made, what additions was made to help, right? No, no.
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: So this is the problem, right? Lonely Bronny and Doctor
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: Connected Bronny, two great additions.
[1:41:38] Speaker 2: And that's why it's going to be the same thing again, man. 7th,
[1:41:42] Speaker 2: 8th seed, and fucking around, have to play the Denver
[1:41:45] Speaker 2: Nuggets in the first round, and... Fuck, like, it was
[1:41:50] Speaker 2: just such an important summer.
[1:41:51] Speaker 3: It was.
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it was such an
[1:41:54] Speaker 2: important summer.
[1:41:55] Speaker 3: The last two summers, though.
[1:41:56] Speaker 2: But this one, I mean, what I'm saying, it was
[1:41:59] Speaker 2: so many, it was so many, just, it reminded me, like,
[1:42:03] Speaker 2: that Amari, Chris Bosh, LeBron, D-Wade, everybody was... Like, you
[1:42:12] Speaker 2: mean you sitting there, like, with the pickings, right? Like,
[1:42:14] Speaker 2: you can see all the fish jumping and shit, and
[1:42:17] Speaker 2: you got the good bait, throw that motherfucker up there,
[1:42:20] Speaker 2: sit there the whole time.
[1:42:22] Speaker 3: Ain't pull shit.
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: That's a horrible feeling.
[1:42:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:42:27] Speaker 2: Like, they should give us discounts on the tickets.
[1:42:31] Speaker 3: No discounts.
[1:42:32] Speaker 1: They ain't doing that now.
[1:42:33] Speaker 3: As a Laker fan, I think the gym get fooled by, like,
[1:42:36] Speaker 3: our playoff runs.
[1:42:37] Speaker 2: That's why.
[1:42:39] Speaker 3: But we have Western Conference Finals. Western Conference Finals. First
[1:42:43] Speaker 3: round knockout.
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals. When?
[1:42:46] Speaker 3: When we lost to Denver. That's when we should have
[1:42:48] Speaker 3: got rid of the people. What happened?
[1:42:53] Speaker 2: Unfortunate.
[1:42:54] Speaker 3: No, I don't remember.
[1:42:55] Speaker 1: What happened?
[1:42:55] Speaker 2: We lost to Denver.
[1:42:57] Speaker 1: Four closed games. Had the potential to win all of them.
[1:42:59] Speaker 3: Did not.
[1:43:00] Speaker 1: How many did you say?
[1:43:01] Speaker 3: Four closed games.
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: Oh.
[1:43:05] Speaker 3: The hardest minimum? We lost by a minimum of, like,
[1:43:07] Speaker 3: 3.5 points.
[1:43:08] Speaker 2: Like, what I'm saying is, all the money we had
[1:43:10] Speaker 2: this summer, we didn't get nobody.
[1:43:12] Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying that.
[1:43:14] Speaker 2: He played four games. He said, he played four games.
[1:43:16] Speaker 2: The boy said, we lost by three points in four games.
[1:43:18] Speaker 1: Like, damn.
[1:43:19] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like.
[1:43:21] Speaker 1: It was around that.
[1:43:23] Speaker 2: But think about.
[1:43:24] Speaker 3: It, kid.
[1:43:25] Speaker 2: We got all the money. We got all the money
[1:43:28] Speaker 2: to make moves, and we don't spend none of it.
[1:43:31] Speaker 3: And you don't trade when your players.
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: Lakers tax, as you know, when we try to get players,
[1:43:34] Speaker 1: they tax us.
[1:43:36] Speaker 3: You don't trade when you got value. That's what I'm
[1:43:38] Speaker 3: talking about.
[1:43:39] Speaker 2: No, we could have signed like....
[1:43:42] Speaker 3: Free agents.
[1:43:42] Speaker 2: All those free agents. If you trying to win, unfortunately,
[1:43:48] Speaker 2: you got to overpay. We couldn't get Buddy Hill. Think
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: about everybody, everybody else got. That's what I'm saying. You
[1:43:54] Speaker 2: got to get the guys like that. You got to
[1:43:56] Speaker 2: go into that luxury thing, dog, unfortunately. I just want
[1:44:00] Speaker 2: to know, I want to see the list they had
[1:44:02] Speaker 2: when free agency hit.
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: I want to see the list because.
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: At some point you had to cross off some and
[1:44:09] Speaker 2: then boom, we're going to go after him. Did that
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: bitch only get three names? Like, DeMar, Levine, Paul George?
[1:44:19] Speaker 1: Was that it?
[1:44:20] Speaker 3: Sign, sign, sign. We done.
[1:44:21] Speaker 2: Goddamn.
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: Maybe next year. Recent news, Brandon Ingram has switched his
[1:44:25] Speaker 1: representation over to Clutchport, which seems to be beneficial. Would
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: you like to see Brandon Ingram on this Lakers squad?
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: We got two first-round picks. We have some assets that
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: we could dispose of. We got Shamar Moore.
[1:44:40] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:44:41] Speaker 3: But I'm saying, we could have got Buddy Hill.
[1:44:44] Speaker 2: So you think Pelicans is, they already see what's going
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: on with Zion. They're going to get rid of the
[1:44:51] Speaker 2: only person they got right now. And he's, what, about 26?
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: After they already got Swindle for Hayden.
[1:44:55] Speaker 3: But they was trying to trade him already. They already
[1:44:57] Speaker 3: treated him bad.
[1:44:58] Speaker 2: They treated him bad. Yeah, because I thought, I thought.
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: Walk that shit back to him. That's on fire. They
[1:45:03] Speaker 2: treated him bad. So you can't do that.
[1:45:04] Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, Zion finished. He did this.
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: And he ain't even like, hey, man, that shit I
[1:45:09] Speaker 2: was talking about earlier, man.
[1:45:10] Speaker 3: Huh? I would never cheat on you.
[1:45:13] Speaker 2: I was being emotional. So we got an updated poll.
[1:45:16] Speaker 2: Did I say B.I.? No, no, no, no, no. I
[1:45:19] Speaker 2: was talking about T.I. Didn't like the last song he wrote.
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: That was it. I didn't say I didn't like you.
[1:45:24] Speaker 2: I was talking about somebody else.
[1:45:26] Speaker 1: We updated the poll. We said who deserves the blame
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: for the Lakers' struggles. 45% said the front office. 32%
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: said Little D-Lo. 13% said J.J. Redick. 9% only said
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: Darvin Hamm, though. Darvin, free and clear now. Back in
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. Hands out of his pocket.
[1:45:45] Speaker 3: The funny part is, all the dickheads who voted for
[1:45:47] Speaker 3: Hamm knowing he ain't.
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: Coaching no more.
[1:45:49] Speaker 3: This is really him.
[1:45:51] Speaker 2: They ain't shit.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: Lingering, but let's keep this thing moving. For those of
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: you who are looking for sweaters, this holiday season, Gil's
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: Arena has you covered. We already talked about this earlier.
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: Buy one, get one free.
[1:46:06] Speaker 1: Take a look at our collection.
[1:46:08] Speaker 3: Show the people that wasn't here earlier.
[1:46:10] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at our collection. We have gifts
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: right here. Oh, they got the Maybach on there.
[1:46:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit nice.
[1:46:15] Speaker 1: Cemetery letters.
[1:46:16] Speaker 3: That shit nice.
[1:46:17] Speaker 1: Cemetery letters.
[1:46:19] Speaker 2: Look at Lex, y'all. Lex's rhinestones will be added to Lex.
[1:46:22] Speaker 1: Look at Lex.
[1:46:23] Speaker 3: We have Kenyans.
[1:46:23] Speaker 2: Look at this shit. Rust-colored. Look at this floor mat.
[1:46:27] Speaker 2: We got swaggies. Most hate it.
[1:46:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, put swaggies.
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: And we have Brandis, the tough crowd with the dog.
[1:46:33] Speaker 3: I like Brandon's. Hey, we'll go back to Nick's. Is
[1:46:35] Speaker 3: that the Trojan? Yeah, USC colors.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: No, that look like the Trojan helmet.
[1:46:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: It is?
[1:46:40] Speaker 3: They did USC's off of USC.
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: Why not?
[1:46:43] Speaker 3: Oh, they put, uh, yeah.
[1:46:44] Speaker 1: They got championship trophies on that bitch?
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:46:46] Speaker 3: Multiple trophies. Got a couple of them.
[1:46:48] Speaker 5: Damn.
[1:46:49] Speaker 3: Got a couple of them.
[1:46:51] Speaker 1: The people's champion. Look at this shit here.
[1:46:53] Speaker 3: I am legend.
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: Drew League champion.
[1:46:55] Speaker 3: Look at this.
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: Unthoughtful shit here. Target shit it is. Hey, would you
[1:46:59] Speaker 1: like rhinestones on it at least? Would that persuade you to?
[1:47:02] Speaker 3: Put something on that motherfucker.
[1:47:04] Speaker 2: Can y'all go back to the original?
[1:47:06] Speaker 1: Look at that shit. Can you go back to the original?
[1:47:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, the gray one. Where's that gray one at?
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: Go back to Kenya's first one.
[1:47:13] Speaker 2: The gray one.
[1:47:14] Speaker 1: Where's the gray one? We have disavowed all knowledge of
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: that sweater, Kenya. Out of respect for you and the
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: Martin family. That shit was funny, bro. It was back
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: to back. Yo, but just be honest, though, right? You
[1:47:26] Speaker 1: could ask anybody, right?
[1:47:28] Speaker 2: You could have did a poll on the street and
[1:47:32] Speaker 2: asked if they know of me, right? Some people say yes,
[1:47:36] Speaker 2: some people say no.
[1:47:37] Speaker 3: That's a key issue. What would you say if you
[1:47:40] Speaker 3: know the percentage of people that voted yes that they
[1:47:43] Speaker 3: know me? What would you come up with I guarantee
[1:47:48] Speaker 3: it wouldn't be a fucking Christmas tree.
[1:47:52] Speaker 2: Could have had a yellow boy like this.
[1:47:55] Speaker 3: Could have been anything. Could have been some fucking socks.
[1:48:00] Speaker 3: Two socks.
[1:48:01] Speaker 2: A beach cruiser.
[1:48:02] Speaker 1: Beach cruiser.
[1:48:03] Speaker 3: You could have had me choking somebody up. A fucking
[1:48:09] Speaker 3: Christmas tree.
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just saying, though.
[1:48:12] Speaker 3: You got to put brother knowledge on here.
[1:48:14] Speaker 2: They might surprise you. But look at it. But people,
[1:48:17] Speaker 2: hold on. That ain't the kicker. Everybody else got a
[1:48:19] Speaker 2: design on the back of it.
[1:48:20] Speaker 3: Of their shit, too. At the top of the collar.
[1:48:24] Speaker 2: No way. Turn that shit around.
[1:48:26] Speaker 3: What I got on my mind? Blank.
[1:48:29] Speaker 2: Turn it around. Everybody else got a design on the top.
[1:48:33] Speaker 3: Of their shit.
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: So whoever sells the most sweaters among the cast gets
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: 5,000 underdog votes. And you get mine for free. You
[1:48:39] Speaker 1: buy one, you get one free. So the stakes are
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: high for the cast. I had to remove myself from
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: the competition.
[1:48:44] Speaker 3: You would have won. You would have beat mine.
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: And, you know, I have gotten word that your sweaters
[1:48:48] Speaker 1: are selling, though.
[1:48:50] Speaker 3: Not a chance.
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: The chat has rallied around you guys.
[1:48:53] Speaker 2: You sold more than one sweater. They are selling. Steve
[1:48:59] Speaker 2: said you sold more than one. Okay, two.
[1:49:02] Speaker 3: You sold sweaters.
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: For people to wipe their feet on.
[1:49:08] Speaker 2: These are now, hey.
[1:49:11] Speaker 1: His wife in there like this.
[1:49:12] Speaker 2: That motherfucker going to be mad when we get in
[1:49:14] Speaker 2: the car and give me two of these. See? See?
[1:49:17] Speaker 1: These are now available.
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: She in the back.
[1:49:20] Speaker 3: I know, she in the back.
[1:49:21] Speaker 2: And King like this, who the fuck just bought two
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: sweaters with my credit card? I have to support you, baby.
[1:49:26] Speaker 1: I have to support you, baby.
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: These Christmas sweaters. She assholes.
[1:49:33] Speaker 1: She was just right by one of them.
[1:49:35] Speaker 2: And I just tell you, you buy two of their ass,
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: you get.
[1:49:38] Speaker 3: Two of mine free.
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, she's an asshole just like me. That's most sweaters.
[1:49:42] Speaker 3: Trust me.
[1:49:43] Speaker 2: She would do some shit like that.
[1:49:44] Speaker 1: We got to all rock the Kenya sweaters now.
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: I'm just going to try.
[1:49:49] Speaker 1: Nick has a KM sweater now as well.
[1:49:51] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: We're swooping everybody.
[1:49:53] Speaker 3: We got the KMs.
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: Just give us one of those.
[1:49:55] Speaker 1: Give us one of those. Take the back of it.
[1:49:58] Speaker 1: These sweaters are now available on gillsarenamerch.com.
[1:50:02] Speaker 3: So get yours ASAP.
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: So let's shift this over. We want to acknowledge a
[1:50:06] Speaker 1: milestone that occurred earlier this week. So with his first
[1:50:11] Speaker 1: bucket of the game against the Spurs on Tuesday, Devin
[1:50:14] Speaker 1: Booker reached a 15,000-point mark for his career. Do we
[1:50:19] Speaker 1: have that video? We're grabbing it. We got the tweet.
[1:50:23] Speaker 1: So Devin Booker hit the 15,000 point in my first career.
[1:50:25] Speaker 1: I feel like Book's been in the league forever, but
[1:50:27] Speaker 1: remember he's just 28 years old. His teammate Kevin Durant,
[1:50:31] Speaker 1: who was the eighth all-time in scoring in league history,
[1:50:34] Speaker 1: praised Book on Twitter. He said, 15K at 28? My
[1:50:39] Speaker 1: dog checking boxes. Congrats, Devin Booker. More on the way.
[1:50:42] Speaker 1: So the Phoenix Suns added this stat that you guys
[1:50:45] Speaker 1: might find of particular interest. Book becomes the ninth youngest
[1:50:49] Speaker 1: player in NBA history.
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: That's what I was Googling.
[1:50:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, ninth youngest player in NBA history to score 15,000
[1:50:55] Speaker 1: career points. LeBron obviously first. Fouled by KD, Kobe, Will Chamberlain,
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Carmelo Anthony.
[1:51:01] Speaker 2: Now that's impressive. That's impressive for real. No, no, no, no, no.
[1:51:07] Speaker 2: The Michael Jordan one is impressive. Michael Jordan.
[1:51:10] Speaker 1: Because he had to go to college for an experience.
[1:51:12] Speaker 2: Because he came in at the age of 22, turned 23... Okay.
[1:51:18] Speaker 3: And didn't miss the year. I think Giannis is more
[1:51:22] Speaker 3: impressive than that. Because he's Greek? Because he ain't played
[1:51:25] Speaker 3: basketball until he was 18, and he came in at
[1:51:28] Speaker 3: 19 and got.
[1:51:29] Speaker 1: 19, that's four years.
[1:51:30] Speaker 2: I think Giannis started playing when he was 14, 15
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: years old. Yeah.
[1:51:32] Speaker 1: Greco-Nigerian. But for reference, seven of the top ten scorers
[1:51:37] Speaker 1: of all time. Other two players being Giannis, obviously a
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer, and T-Mac, Hall of Famer Cruz, slowed.
[1:51:42] Speaker 3: Down by injuries.
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: No, go back up. What's the list again? Hmm? Can
[1:51:46] Speaker 2: we play, run that list back one more time? Mello
[1:51:48] Speaker 2: went to college. One year.
[1:51:50] Speaker 3: Will Chamberlain went to college.
[1:51:52] Speaker 2: Two years. Kevin Durant went to college.
[1:51:54] Speaker 3: Will might have went.
[1:51:55] Speaker 4: So let's really talk about it, right? The fact that
[1:51:57] Speaker 4: Wilt did, listen, the fact that Wilt didn't.
[1:51:59] Speaker 1: Shoot threes and Giannis didn't shoot threes.
[1:52:01] Speaker 3: Dang, that's what I'm saying, yeah. Jordan didn't shoot threes either.
[1:52:05] Speaker 3: Didn't shoot, but he capable.
[1:52:06] Speaker 2: But he could. Jordan is the oldest one here, though,
[1:52:09] Speaker 2: and he missed the year. That's all I'm saying. Yes. Like,
[1:52:11] Speaker 2: so basically he... came in three, four years later than
[1:52:15] Speaker 2: most of these guys, missed a whole year, damn near,
[1:52:20] Speaker 2: that's how many points this motherfucker was putting up. Kobe
[1:52:22] Speaker 2: missed a year, too, though. Huh?
[1:52:24] Speaker 3: Kobe missed a year, too. Who? Kobe.
[1:52:26] Speaker 2: He got hurt. Yeah.
[1:52:30] Speaker 1: Before he was 28.
[1:52:31] Speaker 2: He could have got hurt four years and still been.
[1:52:35] Speaker 3: But Kobe came in not starring. That's more impressive than that.
[1:52:38] Speaker 3: You come in and play in 10 minutes.
[1:52:40] Speaker 1: Will, three years of college, didn't play with the Globetrotters before.
[1:52:43] Speaker 2: Oh, so you sold that?
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: Played with the Globetrotters for a year or two, so.
[1:52:46] Speaker 3: Well, you can't say it can't be that impressive if
[1:52:49] Speaker 3: you're coming in and shoot every shot you want.
[1:52:52] Speaker 2: Who? Jordan.
[1:52:53] Speaker 3: That's not impressive. He coming in and shoot anything he want.
[1:52:57] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is impressive.
[1:52:59] Speaker 2: Anything. When Kobe was 22, 23, he had three rings already.
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: That's Jordan's rookie season. Oh, man.
[1:53:08] Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
[1:53:09] Speaker 2: Stop.
[1:53:09] Speaker 9: Huh?
[1:53:10] Speaker 3: Shit.
[1:53:12] Speaker 1: What the.
[1:53:13] Speaker 3: When did Kobe win the championship?
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: At 22, right?
[1:53:16] Speaker 3: No, that's his third championship. No, he didn't win his
[1:53:19] Speaker 3: first year. He airballed free throws. He came in at 18. 18,
[1:53:24] Speaker 3: turned 19. Goddamn. He airballed free throws that first year.
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: Was ball-headed.
[1:53:32] Speaker 3: Then, the third year, he got his afro. That's when
[1:53:35] Speaker 3: he started balling.
[1:53:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:53:37] Speaker 3: And he's all of 21.
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: It was 22. They didn't win that year, though.
[1:53:43] Speaker 3: Okay, fuck off.
[1:53:43] Speaker 1: His rookie year was 18, right? Unless I'm smoking.
[1:53:45] Speaker 2: That's when he was an all-star. 21, 22, and 23. Nigga,
[1:53:49] Speaker 2: you see the trophy? I can't see.
[1:53:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you can't.
[1:53:54] Speaker 3: Put your glasses on. Your sister said they had three
[1:53:55] Speaker 3: rings already.
[1:53:56] Speaker 2: Okay, but he didn't start, though.
[1:53:58] Speaker 3: Jordan started.
[1:53:58] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, by the time Kobe had... So
[1:54:01] Speaker 2: that means he's better. I'm not saying better. I'm saying
[1:54:04] Speaker 2: what's more impressive.
[1:54:04] Speaker 3: It's more impressive.
[1:54:05] Speaker 2: That when Jordan came in, this is.
[1:54:07] Speaker 1: Are you over there mixing the medication?
[1:54:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's... No, it's more impressive. How is
[1:54:11] Speaker 3: it not?
[1:54:14] Speaker 2: By the time Jordan came in the NBA, Kobe already
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: has three rings at that same age, which means if
[1:54:21] Speaker 2: you calculate all the points Kobe would have by that age,
[1:54:25] Speaker 2: you're talking about damn near already 9,000 points.
[1:54:29] Speaker 3: No, because he didn't start.
[1:54:31] Speaker 1: But it don't matter.
[1:54:32] Speaker 2: By the time when Kobe was in the NBA, when
[1:54:36] Speaker 2: you do the math, Michael Jordan was still in high school.
[1:54:39] Speaker 1: Then he went three years.
[1:54:40] Speaker 3: So if Kobe scored 539 points as an 18-year-old.
[1:54:48] Speaker 2: There's three more years that he's have over Michael Jordan.
[1:54:51] Speaker 3: But it would have been more. It wouldn't have been
[1:54:53] Speaker 3: a conversation if he came in with Jordan.
[1:54:56] Speaker 2: So by the time Jordan got in the league, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: Kobe has 8,000 points. So that's how much he had
[1:55:05] Speaker 2: to score to be in the youngest.
[1:55:08] Speaker 3: It wouldn't even have been a conversation, I'm saying. What?
[1:55:11] Speaker 3: If he was capable to come in and shoot every
[1:55:14] Speaker 3: shot he wanted like Jordan.
[1:55:15] Speaker 2: But if he comes in at 23 like Jordan, that's
[1:55:18] Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
[1:55:20] Speaker 3: They both was great at 22. That's when they started balling.
[1:55:23] Speaker 3: So if he came in at 22 and was able
[1:55:25] Speaker 3: to shoot... Okay, what's more impressive? What's more impressive?
[1:55:27] Speaker 2: Okay. So Kobe started balling at 22? He had three
[1:55:31] Speaker 2: rings by 24. He had three rings.
[1:55:34] Speaker 3: It was exciting, like fun, but he wasn't bald.
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: He had three rings at that age already. That's what
[1:55:40] Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. He already had three of them bitches.
[1:55:44] Speaker 2: How he had three rings at 22? 30, 23.
[1:55:45] Speaker 3: They won, motherfucker.
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: Oh, they didn't win his first two years. He came
[1:55:50] Speaker 2: in at 18. That's 18, 19. What are you talking?
[1:55:53] Speaker 2: Look at the age when he's won the ring. Do
[1:55:55] Speaker 2: you see the age?
[1:55:57] Speaker 3: 21, 22, 23.
[1:55:57] Speaker 2: This is three.
[1:55:59] Speaker 3: Years before 19. That's three years, three and nine is
[1:56:03] Speaker 3: fucking 12, right? So 19 and three is 22.
[1:56:06] Speaker 2: He won at motherfucking 23. That's what I'm saying.
[1:56:09] Speaker 1: That third one.
[1:56:10] Speaker 2: That first one. The first one is 21. 21.
[1:56:13] Speaker 3: Nigga, three seasons before the first championship. 18, 19, 20. 21, 22, 23. 19, 20, 22. What,
[1:56:24] Speaker 3: you can't read? It shows you right there.
[1:56:28] Speaker 2: Three seasons. I'm going off a season. It shows you
[1:56:31] Speaker 2: the age.
[1:56:31] Speaker 3: I'm going off a season.
[1:56:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, so by... So Kobe was.
[1:56:35] Speaker 3: I come in at 18, turn to 19. I played three.
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: Seasons before I win a championship.
[1:56:40] Speaker 3: So Kobe.
[1:56:40] Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about?
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: So Kobe, in his sixth season, was only 23.
[1:56:44] Speaker 3: All right, now he's talking crazy. All right, I don't know, man.
[1:56:47] Speaker 3: If I play six years and I'm fucking only 23
[1:56:50] Speaker 3: at 19... What?
[1:56:53] Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. He got drafted at 17.
[1:56:55] Speaker 3: He got drafted at 18.
[1:56:57] Speaker 2: 17.
[1:56:57] Speaker 1: Turned 18 August before his birthday.
[1:57:01] Speaker 3: The funny part is right here.
[1:57:03] Speaker 1: It says the age right here. The age is right.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: It says championship 21, 22, 23.
[1:57:09] Speaker 2: That's three rings at that age.
[1:57:11] Speaker 3: It says it right there.
[1:57:12] Speaker 2: Do you....
[1:57:18] Speaker 3: Here, flip this motherfucker. Let me flip.
[1:57:20] Speaker 2: Do I got to flip it back?
[1:57:23] Speaker 3: He played three seasons before he won. That's what I'm saying.
[1:57:26] Speaker 2: But by the time Jordan got in the NBA, this
[1:57:29] Speaker 2: was Kobe's legacy. So he already had 7,000, 8,000 points.
[1:57:35] Speaker 2: He already got a playoff record.
[1:57:37] Speaker 3: I thought he was 18 turning 19. Played three seasons.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: That's 22.
[1:57:41] Speaker 2: 17, 13.
[1:57:41] Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Cool. 18, 19. Played three seasons.
[1:57:43] Speaker 2: That's 22. But what I'm saying is... He has, this
[1:57:49] Speaker 2: kid already has 7,000, 7,000, 8,000 points. He already has
[1:57:54] Speaker 2: about 4,000 playoff points, three championships, five All-NBAs.
[1:57:58] Speaker 3: That's more impressive.
[1:57:59] Speaker 2: And this guy ends up being part of the youngest.
[1:58:03] Speaker 3: He did it before he was 22.
[1:58:05] Speaker 2: Did what?
[1:58:06] Speaker 3: He said he won three championships. What are you arguing?
[1:58:10] Speaker 2: I'm saying it's impressive how an older guy got on
[1:58:13] Speaker 2: this list. Gil. That's all I'm saying.
[1:58:15] Speaker 3: Gil.
[1:58:16] Speaker 2: I'm arguing. He over there mixing that medication with that Hennessy, bro.
[1:58:19] Speaker 2: You over there talking.
[1:58:20] Speaker 3: He's sleeping. If you play three seasons at 19.
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: He talking in his sleep right now.
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: That's what I was arguing.
[1:58:26] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:58:27] Speaker 2: You argue stuff that has nothing to do with the topic.
[1:58:29] Speaker 3: I'm saying Michael.
[1:58:30] Speaker 2: Jordan coming in at 22, 23, being on the list
[1:58:35] Speaker 2: that has.
[1:58:35] Speaker 3: A whole bunch of young dudes. Man, I don't know.
[1:58:37] Speaker 2: Like, they're starting their calculator already early. By the time
[1:58:41] Speaker 2: Jordan gets in, like, Devin Booker already had 70. Jordan's
[1:58:44] Speaker 2: still in college at this time. So they are expected
[1:58:48] Speaker 2: to be on this list. Someone who played three years
[1:58:53] Speaker 2: in college being on the ninth youngest? That's weird.
[1:58:57] Speaker 3: It's impressive. Yeah, okay. Bob Cousy is impressive. So Jordan
[1:59:03] Speaker 3: was 21.
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: 21, turning 22.
[1:59:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, turned 22 in February of that season. Thank you.
[1:59:08] Speaker 3: But anyway.
[1:59:09] Speaker 2: This is why he on this list, you see that?
[1:59:11] Speaker 2: You see them numbers, bitch? You see them numbers. All
[1:59:15] Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's impressive. No, it's not. 28, 37, 35, 33, 33, 32.
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: That's impressive. That's impressive.
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: It's not.
[1:59:24] Speaker 3: You're a man already.
[1:59:24] Speaker 2: In the 80s. You're a man. You better score. I'm
[1:59:27] Speaker 2: a man, but I get in the youngest.
[1:59:29] Speaker 1: Let's shift this back to Devin Booker, who was.
[1:59:32] Speaker 3: The point of this conversation. He's the ninth youngest?
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: Ninth youngest player to score 15,000 points in NBA history.
[1:59:39] Speaker 3: No, I mean in order.
[1:59:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, night down.
[1:59:42] Speaker 1: So LeBron was first, KD second, Kobe third, Will fourth,
[1:59:46] Speaker 1: MJ fifth, Carmelo sixth, Giannis seventh, T-Mac eighth, Devin Booker
[1:59:51] Speaker 1: in that ninth spot. How do you see Booker's career
[1:59:53] Speaker 1: playing out?
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: I think with him, he just got to try to
[1:59:59] Speaker 2: figure out how to get a chip. Right? I mean, yeah.
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: I mean, shit, he's only 28.
[2:00:07] Speaker 1: Which is crazy, because as we pointed out, it feels
[2:00:09] Speaker 1: like he has been in the league a long time.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: Fuck.
[2:00:12] Speaker 3: Bam, he's been in the league a long time. 72?
[2:00:16] Speaker 2: Right, it was 72?
[2:00:17] Speaker 3: That's three games right there.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: What, he had 70 against the Celtics.
[2:00:22] Speaker 2: That's a good three games right there.
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: In order for him to do what you just said, Gil, damn.
[2:00:35] Speaker 4: You got to be on the team, like, I ain't
[2:00:38] Speaker 4: saying he can't with KD. I think he can.
[2:00:42] Speaker 2: Get to KD?
[2:00:43] Speaker 4: No, I'm saying they need to play like the Warriors played.
[2:00:48] Speaker 4: Because he's that kind of a player where he's efficient now, right? So, yeah,
[2:00:56] Speaker 4: I think he needs to move. They don't need to
[2:01:00] Speaker 4: play ISO ball, bro, at this point. Because I think
[2:01:04] Speaker 4: it goes against what they do best right now.
[2:01:07] Speaker 3: And that ain't really his strong point.
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: You think they can be like the.
[2:01:10] Speaker 4: You can go get somebody like Sabonis, man.
[2:01:12] Speaker 2: Either Golden State or Boston. Play like Boston. You think
[2:01:25] Speaker 2: they can be more efficient than.
[2:01:27] Speaker 1: I think Golden State.
[2:01:29] Speaker 2: They need to average more assists. They need to move
[2:01:33] Speaker 2: the ball more. The dudes are efficient. They got the
[2:01:37] Speaker 2: coach for the defensive shit. They got the mind for
[2:01:39] Speaker 2: the defensive part of it. They ain't got the players.
[2:01:41] Speaker 3: You think Nurkic fit with them?
[2:01:43] Speaker 2: No.
[2:01:43] Speaker 3: That's what I'm about to say. I don't know.
[2:01:46] Speaker 2: They need somebody tougher. They need somebody that can run
[2:01:48] Speaker 2: the offense through.
[2:01:49] Speaker 3: All right?
[2:01:50] Speaker 4: They need a Sabonis like how Draymond did. For them,
[2:01:54] Speaker 4: they need somebody they can run the offense through.
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: All right?
[2:01:59] Speaker 4: And he's more capable of Draymond of scoring. He's better
[2:02:02] Speaker 4: offensive than Draymond, I think.
[2:02:04] Speaker 3: And there ain't really that many players like that.
[2:02:06] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[2:02:07] Speaker 4: But somebody like him, even go get you a Ben Simmons.
[2:02:12] Speaker 1: Which we pointed out before.
[2:02:14] Speaker 4: I think you go get somebody like Ben Simmons and
[2:02:16] Speaker 4: you let him orchestrate, you put him in the positions
[2:02:18] Speaker 4: to be the facilitator. Because he don't want to shoot.
[2:02:21] Speaker 4: He don't want to shoot. So, shit, you don't want
[2:02:22] Speaker 4: to shoot. Cool, we got that.
[2:02:24] Speaker 2: So, I think somebody like him will fit that situation.
[2:02:26] Speaker 2: Just for the defensive presence. Defensive presence. He's gone multiple positions.
[2:02:30] Speaker 2: You're able to switch. He's a pass first and willing passer.
[2:02:35] Speaker 2: You got KD, who is one of the most efficient
[2:02:38] Speaker 2: scorers we've ever seen. Devin Booker's turning into that.
[2:02:41] Speaker 1: You still have.
[2:02:43] Speaker 2: Grayson Allen, you got guys who've made shots, right?
[2:02:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're healthy, though, too.
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: So then you have, like, you have the pieces, you
[2:02:50] Speaker 2: just don't have... And I like Jones, Jones.
[2:02:51] Speaker 4: On an iso shoot, you exert more energy playing iso
[2:02:54] Speaker 4: basketball than movement, right?
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: Especially at that age. Seven screens coming down, catching and shooting.
[2:02:59] Speaker 1: One dribble play.
[2:03:00] Speaker 4: But then when we need Bucket in the fourth quarter,
[2:03:02] Speaker 4: then we go to what we need.
[2:03:05] Speaker 3: And to me, I don't think Booker, that's, like, really
[2:03:07] Speaker 3: his strong strength to go iso all the time. He
[2:03:11] Speaker 3: could come off the screen. Catch and shoot.
[2:03:13] Speaker 2: Because he's a shooter.
[2:03:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, he can catch and shoot.
[2:03:15] Speaker 2: He's a shooter that knows how to score.
[2:03:16] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:03:17] Speaker 4: So is Devin Booker a scorer or is he a
[2:03:21] Speaker 4: shooter that knows how to score?
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: He's a shooter that knows how to score, right?
[2:03:25] Speaker 3: And that's why I think he always going to score, though.
[2:03:29] Speaker 3: So he's like Gil.
[2:03:30] Speaker 2: He's like Gil. If you have to get rid of
[2:03:32] Speaker 2: a nerd, who do you go for that completes the team?
[2:03:38] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like.
[2:03:39] Speaker 1: Like who's out there, like?
[2:03:43] Speaker 2: For them? Yeah, like, who would you make a trade
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: for that doesn't seem.
[2:03:49] Speaker 2: It doesn't seem big, but it's perfect for them to take? Like,
[2:03:54] Speaker 2: Drew Holiday over there.
[2:03:56] Speaker 3: Change. It changed their team for the better. Like... Huh? Bam? Bam?
[2:04:04] Speaker 1: Ooh, yeah, no, yes.
[2:04:06] Speaker 2: Firepower, though.
[2:04:07] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. I like Bam in that situation.
[2:04:11] Speaker 3: Of course.
[2:04:12] Speaker 2: Because Bam a willing passer, right?
[2:04:14] Speaker 4: You can put him in the same situation, I think,
[2:04:16] Speaker 4: as like I was saying with Ben Simmons, but he's defensive-minded.
[2:04:19] Speaker 3: Wishful thinking.
[2:04:20] Speaker 1: He passed first.
[2:04:21] Speaker 2: He's a pass first guy because he don't want to score.
[2:04:24] Speaker 3: That's wishful thinking, though.
[2:04:25] Speaker 1: It is, but he said who would fit.
[2:04:27] Speaker 2: Hey, what's funny, what's crazy is Ben Simmons is up
[2:04:30] Speaker 2: this year, right?
[2:04:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:04:31] Speaker 2: If they made a trade for Nurkic and someone, for Bam,
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: and then pick up Ben Simmons and a free agent,
[2:04:39] Speaker 2: now your goddamn point guard.
[2:04:40] Speaker 3: Is seven foot. Miami going to get rid of Bam?
[2:04:43] Speaker 2: No.
[2:04:44] Speaker 1: Ben Simmons' idea for that situation, though. Seems more realistic.
[2:04:48] Speaker 4: It was more real because, like, you got a guy
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: that is not looking.
[2:04:52] Speaker 3: Because Nurk want to score.
[2:04:54] Speaker 2: So, like, when you give it down to him, he's
[2:04:58] Speaker 2: not looking for anybody else.
[2:04:59] Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I got the ball. Let me go.
[2:05:01] Speaker 2: You run the same shit that you run when they
[2:05:03] Speaker 2: throw that bitch into Draymond in the post. He start
[2:05:06] Speaker 2: backing down.
[2:05:07] Speaker 3: You know what's coming. Mm-hmm.
[2:05:10] Speaker 1: They run the.
[2:05:11] Speaker 4: So just imagine you run the split with KD and Book.
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: Bradley Beal, you got a decision to make, and you're
[2:05:18] Speaker 4: going to mess it up. Six out of ten times,
[2:05:22] Speaker 4: they're going to botch it.
[2:05:22] Speaker 3: Was Aiden on the team with KD, or no? Who?
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: Aiden.
[2:05:26] Speaker 3: I mean, the big man. Was he a better fit
[2:05:29] Speaker 3: than Norwich?
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: He would have been if he wanted to play.
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: Like I said, they big man, like, they need someone
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: that's willing to, like, it's the bridge guy. They don't
[2:05:40] Speaker 2: have a bridge guy who's bridging the game for them. Right?
[2:05:44] Speaker 2: So it's more like you do that. Like, they need
[2:05:46] Speaker 2: a bridge.
[2:05:47] Speaker 3: Too much taking turns.
[2:05:49] Speaker 2: You go, I go. You go, I go. Like, Boston
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: has two. They got Drew Holiday and White.
[2:05:56] Speaker 3: That's hard to find, bro. Like, we could just find that, though.
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about the KD front.
[2:06:06] Speaker 1: He's been battling injury this season, so news out of Phoenix,
[2:06:09] Speaker 1: KD will be re-evaluated in one week as he's now
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: dealing with a left ankle sprain to suffer that injury
[2:06:12] Speaker 1: against the Spurs. Earlier this week, Suns are 11-2 in
[2:06:17] Speaker 1: games Durant starts this year compared to 1-6 without him.
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: So what's your confidence level in the Suns' chances to
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: contend in the West, especially with KD kind of dealing
[2:06:26] Speaker 1: with these injury issues this season?
[2:06:29] Speaker 2: 11-2 when he's there. 11-2 when he's there. As long
[2:06:34] Speaker 2: as he's healthy, they are contending. I don't know, man.
[2:06:41] Speaker 2: We're talking about an ankle sprain. We're not talking about
[2:06:43] Speaker 2: knee surgery. It's an ankle sprain.
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: I mean, he coming back. They had a calf issue,
[2:06:47] Speaker 1: I believe, earlier in the season.
[2:06:49] Speaker 3: But that's just like the Clippers. Every year, somebody's hurt.
[2:06:54] Speaker 2: No. Yeah. These is knick-knacks. Like, these are knick-knack injuries. Like,
[2:06:59] Speaker 2: these are, like, irritating ones. Get it out the way now. Yeah.
[2:07:02] Speaker 1: Get the shit out the way now.
[2:07:05] Speaker 3: How many times they played together all as a union
[2:07:07] Speaker 3: last year?
[2:07:08] Speaker 2: March and April.
[2:07:10] Speaker 3: It was like 20 games, 30.
[2:07:10] Speaker 2: It was something like that. It was a small sample size.
[2:07:13] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[2:07:13] Speaker 4: So, but no, if you don't have something like this,
[2:07:16] Speaker 4: get it out the way now.
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: But played together in the playoffs, ended up getting.
[2:07:19] Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm saying.
[2:07:20] Speaker 2: It's these little ticky-tack injuries that they're getting that's just
[2:07:24] Speaker 2: lingering for no reason. Like the same thing with Steph
[2:07:27] Speaker 2: was saying, like, I got to take care and make
[2:07:29] Speaker 2: sure this is not lingering because if it lingers, then
[2:07:31] Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep coming back.
[2:07:33] Speaker 1: I think 10-9 is both knees. Steph, I believe, will
[2:07:36] Speaker 1: be out for the Warriors next game, but... They're starting
[2:07:38] Speaker 1: to get older.
[2:07:39] Speaker 2: They're older.
[2:07:40] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[2:07:40] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They're starting to get old. Because KD,
[2:07:42] Speaker 1: when he's on the court.
[2:07:44] Speaker 3: You seen what KD was doing to, um, Wimby? Put
[2:07:49] Speaker 3: him in a blender that first quarter. Then tried to
[2:07:51] Speaker 3: do the same move as Angle gave out. That shit
[2:07:53] Speaker 3: was over, man. They can't do that shit all game.
[2:07:57] Speaker 2: I know.
[2:07:58] Speaker 3: You play in the dog leagues.
[2:08:00] Speaker 2: Spurts.
[2:08:02] Speaker 3: You can do it in spurts.
[2:08:03] Speaker 2: You play in spurts, my.
[2:08:06] Speaker 3: Man.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: This is one of the teams we talked about earlier
[2:08:08] Speaker 1: in the season. You guys wouldn't be surprised either way.
[2:08:10] Speaker 1: The top three team in the West wouldn't be surprised.
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: What was the record you said?
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: 11-2 game. Kevin Durant starts 1-6.
[2:08:16] Speaker 3: When he what?
[2:08:19] Speaker 1: When Kevin Durant starts, the Suns are 11-2.
[2:08:21] Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. That's all we need to know. If you
[2:08:26] Speaker 2: just said like six and five, then okay, we concerned.
[2:08:30] Speaker 3: So you're basically saying if he starts, they won. They're Gucci.
[2:08:38] Speaker 2: They won.
[2:08:38] Speaker 1: They'd be top.
[2:08:41] Speaker 2: So the only reason where they are is because he's
[2:08:43] Speaker 2: been hurt.
[2:08:44] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:08:45] Speaker 2: So if he's in, they won. Because I'm pretty sure
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: if Shea Hurt his ankle and missed seven games. I'm
[2:08:51] Speaker 2: pretty sure they won't be won. How's it looking? Okay, cool.
[2:08:55] Speaker 3: Crying tears of a clown, man. That ain't shit, okay?
[2:08:58] Speaker 3: God damn, stop. It's the same shit as the Clippers.
[2:09:03] Speaker 3: God damn. If they was good, healthy, they'd win. It's
[2:09:07] Speaker 3: the same shit.
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: Nah, I have no idea. Yes, it is. Shit.
[2:09:10] Speaker 3: When they was healthy, they was whooping the Lakers' ass.
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: Just stop.
[2:09:13] Speaker 3: Let's keep it real. Let's keep it real. If it
[2:09:16] Speaker 3: wasn't for the bubble, we wouldn't have that damn championship.
[2:09:19] Speaker 1: The hardest championship in NBA history, though. No home court advantage.
[2:09:25] Speaker 2: No work, no strip clubs, as you guys pointed out
[2:09:27] Speaker 2: earlier in the show.
[2:09:29] Speaker 3: Christmas games, Tuesdays, season opener. Let's just keep it real, man. Goddamn.
[2:09:36] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's... First off, we asked the chat,
[2:09:41] Speaker 1: do you think the Suns can compete in the West? 65%
[2:09:43] Speaker 1: say yes.
[2:09:43] Speaker 2: That's just.
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: From what they were on paper, getting Beal, which you're hopeful,
[2:09:48] Speaker 1: obviously a lot of injuries last season, seemed to be
[2:09:51] Speaker 1: a trend heading into this season, especially with KD, who's
[2:09:54] Speaker 1: arguably the most important player on that roster, based on
[2:09:57] Speaker 1: what that record looks like.
[2:10:01] Speaker 3: Can dudes just get healthy, man?
[2:10:03] Speaker 1: Would they need more training camp? Yeah, I'll try to
[2:10:05] Speaker 1: go get Ben Simmons if I'm them, as a free agent.
[2:10:10] Speaker 1: Because he's up this summer, right?
[2:10:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. He's free.
[2:10:16] Speaker 3: Let's do Hawks.
[2:10:17] Speaker 1: I think I'd be happy.
[2:10:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:10:19] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving real quick.
[2:10:23] Speaker 1: Go back to the Eastern Conference. As you guys pointed out, Lakers'
[2:10:25] Speaker 1: next game against the Atlanta Hawks. Hawks starting to draw
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: some attention after picking up some notable wins recently. Hawks
[2:10:33] Speaker 1: have won five straight games, including back-to-back wins over the
[2:10:36] Speaker 1: Cavs last week and a win over the Streaking Bucks
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: last night. What happened now, Gil?
[2:10:42] Speaker 2: Huh? Hmm. You play the Hawks?
[2:10:44] Speaker 1: We do play the Hawks.
[2:10:45] Speaker 2: No, because he made a statement, because I remember I
[2:10:47] Speaker 2: was a Laker fan. He made a statement that the
[2:10:50] Speaker 2: Clippers was.
[2:10:51] Speaker 3: Whooping our ass.
[2:10:53] Speaker 1: Can you make a similar statement?
[2:10:56] Speaker 2: In 2020. You said in 2020. Yeah, that year. I
[2:10:58] Speaker 2: said as of late, though.
[2:11:01] Speaker 1: No, no.
[2:11:02] Speaker 3: He said 2020.
[2:11:03] Speaker 2: If the Clippers, if there was no COVID, we wouldn't
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: have won the Bucs.
[2:11:07] Speaker 1: Look at all the games. Who was the number one
[2:11:10] Speaker 1: team in the league?
[2:11:12] Speaker 2: So we see who beat the Bucs and the Clippers.
[2:11:15] Speaker 3: So Clippers won the first matchup. The Lakers, I was
[2:11:18] Speaker 3: actually in the team.
[2:11:19] Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
[2:11:20] Speaker 1: Just making sure. We were winning that regardless. No home fans?
[2:11:23] Speaker 3: It was 2-2.
[2:11:24] Speaker 1: I had a hell of a team. Hardest championship in
[2:11:26] Speaker 1: NBA history? The bubble team was a hell of a team.
[2:11:28] Speaker 2: Ours, right?
[2:11:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:11:29] Speaker 1: A stream full of video board fans?
[2:11:31] Speaker 3: Clippers was it? It was 2-2.
[2:11:33] Speaker 1: Somebody was whooping our ass.
[2:11:35] Speaker 3: We were unconcerned.
[2:11:37] Speaker 2: Unconcerned.
[2:11:38] Speaker 3: But I was happy we didn't play.
[2:11:39] Speaker 2: Unconcerned. Didn't we go on like a big-ass win streak
[2:11:42] Speaker 2: or something?
[2:11:43] Speaker 1: I was happy we played Demmer.
[2:11:44] Speaker 3: I was happy we played Demmer instead of Clippers, like
[2:11:46] Speaker 3: everybody else. Unfazed.
[2:11:48] Speaker 2: Like everybody else.
[2:11:49] Speaker 3: I know y'all was happy we played Demmer instead of
[2:11:51] Speaker 3: the Clippers. Not worried.
[2:11:54] Speaker 2: I was happy.
[2:11:55] Speaker 3: No. Dameron put them out to play all, and then
[2:11:58] Speaker 3: we played Dameron and we whooped their ass.
[2:12:00] Speaker 2: Why would we be happy about a team that didn't
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: even want to be there?
[2:12:05] Speaker 1: Who was the Clippers coach then, Gil? Who was the
[2:12:08] Speaker 1: Clippers coach in the bubble?
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: I think he was at the, I remember he was
[2:12:11] Speaker 2: playing golf on game seven, and they said if we lose,
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: because he was so happy when he was Like, they
[2:12:19] Speaker 2: getting ready for game seven.
[2:12:20] Speaker 3: He talking about his golf score, because it was probably.
[2:12:22] Speaker 1: The best golf he had since then.
[2:12:24] Speaker 2: And they basically said, if we don't win, your ass
[2:12:27] Speaker 2: is fired with all this energy you got going on.
[2:12:29] Speaker 3: Clippers was up 3-1.
[2:12:30] Speaker 2: 3-1?
[2:12:30] Speaker 3: Yes, they were. That's what I'm saying. They checked that off.
[2:12:34] Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Lakers did not figure it out.
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: Next thing I heard, I heard he was calling Philadelphia.
[2:12:39] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[2:12:40] Speaker 2: Hey, man, I heard I'm about to get fired. You
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: got some room over there for me? Sold!
[2:12:44] Speaker 3: Woo!
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: Let's shift over back to you.
[2:12:46] Speaker 2: Hi, y'all.
[2:12:46] Speaker 3: That was a good year.
[2:12:47] Speaker 1: We had a good year. Hawks have won five straight games,
[2:12:50] Speaker 1: including back-to-back wins over the Cavs last week and a
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: win over the Streaking Bucks last night, who may or
[2:12:55] Speaker 1: may not have had energy issues in that game. So
[2:12:59] Speaker 1: Trey Young has 17 points and seven dives in 35 minutes,
[2:13:01] Speaker 1: but he was six for 19 from the field. struggling
[2:13:04] Speaker 1: from three, missing all nine of his three-point attempts. Fourth-year
[2:13:08] Speaker 1: emerging pro Jalen Johnson led the Hawks with 23 points
[2:13:10] Speaker 1: on 10-for-19 shooting to go along with 13 rebounds and
[2:13:12] Speaker 1: five assists while playing 40 minutes in the game. On
[2:13:15] Speaker 1: the Bucs' side, Giannis dropped 31 points and Dame had 25.
[2:13:19] Speaker 1: Both shot eight for 14 from the field, but no
[2:13:20] Speaker 1: other Bucs players scored more than 11 points. So with
[2:13:24] Speaker 1: the win, the Hawks moved into sixth in the Eastern Conference,
[2:13:29] Speaker 1: now 12-11. have recorded wins over the Bucks, the Cavs twice,
[2:13:33] Speaker 1: the Celtics, and the Knicks this season. But the Hawks
[2:13:36] Speaker 1: are also the only team that the Wizards have beaten.
[2:13:40] Speaker 1: Beating them twice early in the season. The Hawks were
[2:13:43] Speaker 1: dealing with some injury issues in that game, but still
[2:13:45] Speaker 1: the Wizards. It's an exciting squad, though. Let's just be real.
[2:13:50] Speaker 1: Based on expectations coming into the year, a lot of
[2:13:53] Speaker 1: talk about trainees to move on and rebuilding, to see
[2:13:56] Speaker 1: them sixth now. But let's talk about Jalen Johnson a
[2:14:00] Speaker 1: little bit. 22 years old, showing great potential in his
[2:14:02] Speaker 1: fourth year. Average of 20 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists
[2:14:06] Speaker 1: on 51-36, 76 shooting splits. What's the ceiling for Jalen
[2:14:10] Speaker 1: Johnson in Adam Silver's NBA?
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: I like him. He was dunking.
[2:14:17] Speaker 3: He was doing some Josh Mills shit.
[2:14:21] Speaker 1: Only 22 years old.
[2:14:22] Speaker 3: He was flying, bro. And the energy is right. Big upside, like, what, 60? Eight, six, nine,
[2:14:30] Speaker 3: something like that.
[2:14:32] Speaker 1: Gil, you are currently FaceTiming somebody.
[2:14:34] Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
[2:14:37] Speaker 1: Gil has retrieved the phone. Using FaceTime audio. Gil, he's
[2:14:44] Speaker 1: going to duck you. He's not picking up. He's going
[2:14:48] Speaker 1: to duck you.
[2:14:51] Speaker 3: He's in Miami.
[2:14:54] Speaker 1: Do you want to let the show know who you
[2:14:55] Speaker 1: were calling?
[2:14:56] Speaker 2: Yes.
[2:14:58] Speaker 1: Gil trying to retrieve a special guest for our program currently.
[2:15:02] Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, this show is live. Anything can happen
[2:15:05] Speaker 3: at any moment.
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: Hey, how was that energy? Did they have energy yesterday?
[2:15:14] Speaker 2: Did the Bucks have energy yesterday?
[2:15:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, we just lost.
[2:15:20] Speaker 2: Oh.
[2:15:21] Speaker 9: Huh?
[2:15:21] Speaker 3: We just missed shots.
[2:15:22] Speaker 2: I was just making sure the energy level was still
[2:15:24] Speaker 2: high when they took a ass whip. All right, just
[2:15:29] Speaker 2: making sure. Yeah, yeah, we good. Don't worry about us.
[2:15:31] Speaker 3: You said 17-3. Don't worry about us.
[2:15:32] Speaker 1: All right, you already took a loss, so that's a problem.
[2:15:35] Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
[2:15:35] Speaker 3: All right, don't worry about it.
[2:15:36] Speaker 2: All right. Don't worry about it. Okay. All right, goodbye.
[2:15:39] Speaker 3: All right, goodbye.
[2:15:40] Speaker 1: Gil, FaceTime Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, not on the show today.
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: Just wanted to make sure.
[2:15:44] Speaker 3: That ass whooping.
[2:15:47] Speaker 2: That ass whooping. The energy was still high on that
[2:15:49] Speaker 2: ass whooping.
[2:15:49] Speaker 1: Brandon said the energy was still high. They just missed
[2:15:51] Speaker 1: some shots. It happens, but talking about the Hawks, Jalen Johnson.
[2:15:57] Speaker 1: Can you like Jalen Johnson-Sidley in the league? He's showing progression.
[2:16:00] Speaker 1: He's in year four, showing growth.
[2:16:04] Speaker 2: Fortunate for him, he's with a pass-first point guard, a
[2:16:07] Speaker 2: guy that's willing to pass it. So, yeah, when you're
[2:16:11] Speaker 2: in that kind of situation and you got a guy
[2:16:13] Speaker 2: willing to get off the ball and you've worked your
[2:16:17] Speaker 2: tail off to get, yeah, no. So he's showing a
[2:16:20] Speaker 2: lot of growth. His confidence is high, so that goes
[2:16:25] Speaker 2: a long way. Yeah, no, I'm saying the trajectory is there. Yeah.
[2:16:29] Speaker 2: Big payday coming for the kid. For real.
[2:16:31] Speaker 3: How tall is he? My bad.
[2:16:32] Speaker 2: 6'8. Where did he rank last year in most improved?
[2:16:37] Speaker 1: Because he had a huge jump from.
[2:16:38] Speaker 3: Yeah, he averaged 5 to, was it 16? Right, so
[2:16:40] Speaker 3: he was like down there plus.
[2:16:42] Speaker 2: For real. Was that 11, 14, 15?
[2:16:43] Speaker 3: He was a plus 16.
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: Let me spool it up.
[2:16:45] Speaker 2: Do you know? You ask, you shall receive. He played
[2:16:59] Speaker 2: 65 games. He didn't play 65. And I played, yeah,
[2:17:01] Speaker 2: I was going to say.
[2:17:02] Speaker 3: He wasn't on the list.
[2:17:04] Speaker 2: Fast week.
[2:17:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play 65 games.
[2:17:06] Speaker 2: But, I mean, no, no. He's making big jumps, man.
[2:17:08] Speaker 2: You can tell he's putting in that work, you know,
[2:17:10] Speaker 2: real work, because it's really showing on the court.
[2:17:13] Speaker 1: And we talked about Trey a little last week. Trey
[2:17:15] Speaker 1: and that went over the Cavs career high, 22 assists
[2:17:19] Speaker 1: most this season. Shooting's been a little streaky. But just
[2:17:22] Speaker 1: in terms of his playmaking ability, does Trey deserve more
[2:17:24] Speaker 1: love for what he brings as a playmaker?
[2:17:27] Speaker 2: 22 assists against the Cavs. I don't know what it is,
[2:17:30] Speaker 2: but I think people don't realize how good that kid
[2:17:34] Speaker 2: can pass the ball.
[2:17:35] Speaker 3: Like, he's a willing passer.
[2:17:37] Speaker 2: Like, he's... I think everyone was so stuck on the
[2:17:40] Speaker 2: Steph part of it, because he can shoot. I don't
[2:17:42] Speaker 2: think anybody, they underestimated that he is a pass-first guard
[2:17:48] Speaker 2: that just has a.
[2:17:49] Speaker 3: Flame on him. Yeah, he's really good. Like, huh?
[2:17:51] Speaker 1: He's really good.
[2:17:54] Speaker 2: Like, he's, like, you know how we see Hallenburton? Like,
[2:17:57] Speaker 2: he's as unselfish. He just shoots it better. Like, he just.
[2:18:01] Speaker 1: He's going back to... He's been playing his way. He's
[2:18:03] Speaker 1: just really, really going back to how he played at Oklahoma.
[2:18:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:18:08] Speaker 1: He's going back to that, like.
[2:18:10] Speaker 3: And they got a good athletic team, too. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah.
[2:18:15] Speaker 1: See, the Hawks, one of those teams, you know, a
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: lot of people were down on them in previous years,
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: but with this squad, these young players coming through, even
[2:18:22] Speaker 1: Reese O'Shea is the number one pick, kind of finding
[2:18:24] Speaker 1: his footing and figuring it out. And they playing in
[2:18:26] Speaker 1: a bad Eastern Conference. They play in the East, so.
[2:18:28] Speaker 1: It's old shit, listen.
[2:18:30] Speaker 2: Anybody can finish third in the East.
[2:18:31] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[2:18:32] Speaker 3: 500. Hey, 500.
[2:18:33] Speaker 2: Okay. Get home court advantage. You fourth seeded 500. 41
[2:18:39] Speaker 2: and 41.
[2:18:39] Speaker 1: Home court.
[2:18:41] Speaker 2: Shit, I'm going to be the whole season this year.
[2:18:47] Speaker 1: Y'all think the Hawks are going to make some noise
[2:18:49] Speaker 1: in the East?
[2:18:52] Speaker 2: Why you got to throw extra on it, man? They
[2:18:55] Speaker 2: playing well right now. At this point, we just don't
[2:18:59] Speaker 2: let them play well right now. At this point, we
[2:19:01] Speaker 2: can just do this and just be like, all right.
[2:19:05] Speaker 2: Anyone can play well. Because at this point, everybody is
[2:19:08] Speaker 2: playing so bad across the board in the East that
[2:19:12] Speaker 2: it's just matchups now. It's whoever matchups with who is
[2:19:16] Speaker 2: basically in the Eastern Conference Finals.
[2:19:18] Speaker 3: It ain't going to have nothing to do with who
[2:19:19] Speaker 3: we think is.
[2:19:20] Speaker 2: Going to be there. Right now, it's two teams dominant.
[2:19:23] Speaker 3: Everybody else is suspects. But this team got a chance
[2:19:26] Speaker 3: because they're athletic and they run. They're young and they run, like,
[2:19:30] Speaker 3: Full spread. Oh, that shit.
[2:19:33] Speaker 1: And they 500.
[2:19:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:19:34] Speaker 3: They 500.
[2:19:35] Speaker 2: Everybody 500.
[2:19:36] Speaker 1: One day, 12 and 11.
[2:19:37] Speaker 3: Everybody 500.
[2:19:39] Speaker 2: Shit.
[2:19:40] Speaker 3: Everybody.
[2:19:41] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But in the Eastern Conference.
[2:19:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
[2:19:45] Speaker 1: Much more favorable schedule. First time. All right, well, let's
[2:19:49] Speaker 1: move on to Mostly Fans.
[2:19:50] Speaker 2: Damn.
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[2:20:02] Speaker 1: If you're riding with him, join in on the fun
[2:20:04] Speaker 1: and the action. Gil, really appreciate the poncho. Showing up
[2:20:07] Speaker 1: with the Lakers poncho.
[2:20:08] Speaker 3: I went on a lower.
[2:20:09] Speaker 1: Despite everything going on.
[2:20:10] Speaker 3: Unwavering. You did what? I went on a lower for Porter.
[2:20:13] Speaker 3: A copy just, you know, I added George, but I
[2:20:17] Speaker 3: just took the lower. You just made a slight adjustment.
[2:20:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, a little adjustment.
[2:20:20] Speaker 3: So, we're going to do a special.
[2:20:22] Speaker 2: Hey, y'all.
[2:20:33] Speaker 1: Very special Mostly fans here. We have Nick's biggest fan
[2:20:38] Speaker 1: who's made it all the way past security gate.
[2:20:40] Speaker 3: My only fan.
[2:20:41] Speaker 1: Here right now in the audience to ask some live questions.
[2:20:44] Speaker 1: We're going to toss it over to you.
[2:20:45] Speaker 2: Go ahead.
[2:20:45] Speaker 1: What's your first question?
[2:20:47] Speaker 3: All right.
[2:20:47] Speaker 9: So, Nick, obviously you're one of the fashion icons and
[2:20:51] Speaker 9: major influences in the NBA. You famously played in Yeezys
[2:20:54] Speaker 9: in an actual NBA game. And this is a question
[2:20:57] Speaker 9: for everyone. What are your favorite shoes to hoop in?
[2:21:01] Speaker 3: Favorite shoes to hoop in?
[2:21:02] Speaker 2: Nick, we'll start with you since you're the biggest fan
[2:21:03] Speaker 2: in the building.
[2:21:04] Speaker 1: He gave you tons of confidence.
[2:21:05] Speaker 3: I am the shoe king. Yeah, I am the king.
[2:21:09] Speaker 3: You know, kicks on the court champ, all that. You know,
[2:21:11] Speaker 3: I did that. I started this whole thing. I would
[2:21:14] Speaker 3: say probably the Kobe.
[2:21:23] Speaker 2: 7s, I think.
[2:21:24] Speaker 3: The Kobe 7s or 6s.
[2:21:25] Speaker 2: Low tops. Yeah, I like those.
[2:21:29] Speaker 3: Before they got, you know, before they became what they
[2:21:33] Speaker 3: are now, but when people wasn't really after them like.
[2:21:36] Speaker 2: That, that was like my favorite shoe.
[2:21:37] Speaker 3: The ID, I used the ID on Nike ID. That's
[2:21:42] Speaker 3: the wizard colors and all that.
[2:21:43] Speaker 2: Wait, was that his shoe, the Nike ID? Yeah. You
[2:21:47] Speaker 2: got the change? Yep.
[2:21:48] Speaker 3: You could change all that. Remember there was one year
[2:21:50] Speaker 3: that was, it was his shoe?
[2:21:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. Where Nike ID had it and you can just,
[2:21:54] Speaker 2: everybody can make their own colorway. Yeah. I was like, oh,
[2:21:56] Speaker 2: that was clever.
[2:21:56] Speaker 1: That's what I used to do.
[2:21:58] Speaker 3: On his?
[2:21:59] Speaker 4: On Nike, when I just send them all my color
[2:22:02] Speaker 4: waves that I wanted. They just make them.
[2:22:05] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right? But they didn't want to give me a
[2:22:08] Speaker 2: signature shoe, so I just made all my color waves.
[2:22:11] Speaker 3: They just made every.
[2:22:12] Speaker 2: Just anybody's shoe? No, just, yeah. Whatever I was wearing
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: at the time and whatever color wave I wanted. I
[2:22:18] Speaker 2: just sent all them deers in Denver. Yeah.
[2:22:20] Speaker 4: My foot game was mean. Every stop, basically, but yeah.
[2:22:26] Speaker 4: Speaking of shoes, yeah, so my favorite shoe, I'm going
[2:22:31] Speaker 4: to go with.
[2:22:34] Speaker 1: The first phone posit.
[2:22:37] Speaker 3: I was going to say phones, too.
[2:22:40] Speaker 2: The zipper. Yeah, them joints was like plant-less. They get
[2:22:44] Speaker 2: off the floor in them things. I'm like, yeah.
[2:22:49] Speaker 4: Crazy thing about them, I ran through a couple pair
[2:22:51] Speaker 4: of them in a game, and I popped the zipper, like,
[2:22:53] Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff.
[2:22:54] Speaker 2: Right? Yeah.
[2:22:55] Speaker 1: And you guys wear new shoes fresh out the box?
[2:22:57] Speaker 2: I did.
[2:22:57] Speaker 1: You break them in?
[2:22:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
[2:22:58] Speaker 2: I did. You like doing that? Yeah.
[2:23:00] Speaker 1: I wore a new pair of shoes every game.
[2:23:01] Speaker 2: Every game.
[2:23:02] Speaker 1: New shoes, new socks every game. You do that in college?
[2:23:05] Speaker 3: Unless I had like a good game. I'm just saying.
[2:23:07] Speaker 2: No, no, no. In college I didn't, but I wore them.
[2:23:09] Speaker 2: So how long did it take you to a job?
[2:23:10] Speaker 2: I've always been curious about that.
[2:23:12] Speaker 3: In college?
[2:23:12] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[2:23:13] Speaker 1: But no, to the league, wearing a new pair of
[2:23:15] Speaker 1: shoes every game.
[2:23:15] Speaker 3: In college, it's hard to wear new shoes every game.
[2:23:17] Speaker 1: And they didn't break them in or anything for you
[2:23:18] Speaker 1: before you got them?
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: No.
[2:23:19] Speaker 1: Fresh out the box?
[2:23:20] Speaker 2: Just take my orthotics out. put my orthotics in a
[2:23:24] Speaker 2: new pair. Yeah, well, ours is orthotics. So the shoe itself.
[2:23:28] Speaker 3: I had my own bag.
[2:23:30] Speaker 4: I'm supposed to say the equipment, because I can only
[2:23:32] Speaker 4: reference Denver because I was there for the longest. But, like,
[2:23:37] Speaker 4: I had my own, like, bag of my shoes. I
[2:23:40] Speaker 4: used to travel, like, Mello had his bag, I had
[2:23:42] Speaker 4: my bag. Just in front of my locker, there's five
[2:23:45] Speaker 4: pairs of shoes before every game, so I just pick
[2:23:47] Speaker 4: whichever color wave I want. So whatever the hairband we
[2:23:50] Speaker 4: was wearing and and all that shit, like we just
[2:23:52] Speaker 4: matched arm sleeve, headband up, and I'd pick whatever color
[2:23:54] Speaker 4: wave shoe I was gonna wear.
[2:23:55] Speaker 2: And then what would you do after those shoes?
[2:23:57] Speaker 1: Get them away.
[2:23:58] Speaker 3: Get them away every.
[2:23:58] Speaker 1: Time after you went home?
[2:23:59] Speaker 3: I gave mine away.
[2:24:01] Speaker 1: To most home games? Okay.
[2:24:03] Speaker 4: I give them away at home games. I tell the
[2:24:05] Speaker 4: ball boy whether it's a blowout, whether we getting blown
[2:24:08] Speaker 4: out or we blowing somebody out of the game, whatever,
[2:24:10] Speaker 4: I tell the ball boy, go get the bag from
[2:24:12] Speaker 4: the back, and I give the shoes away to fans.
[2:24:14] Speaker 1: Man of the people.
[2:24:15] Speaker 3: What'd you do? I gave like the... I got a question.
[2:24:20] Speaker 2: When you was with the Mavs, how was you wearing
[2:24:23] Speaker 2: what you was wearing when you was with Orlando?
[2:24:25] Speaker 3: Oh, because I had lost my contract. Okay.
[2:24:27] Speaker 2: So, because I lost my contract, all the shoes I've
[2:24:30] Speaker 2: ever collected. Yes.
[2:24:31] Speaker 3: Like, since growing up, you know.
[2:24:33] Speaker 2: Somebody posted something recently, and it was like, I'm like,
[2:24:35] Speaker 2: this boy was playing in every Jordan, Nike, this.
[2:24:41] Speaker 4: Everything you had in your collection, you was just hooping in. Yeah,
[2:24:43] Speaker 4: just because, you know, once you signed with Adidas, I
[2:24:45] Speaker 4: couldn't wear these.
[2:24:46] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[2:24:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, because you stole a whole lot of them.
[2:24:48] Speaker 6: But....
[2:24:50] Speaker 1: You left them for Nick, did you? You left all
[2:24:52] Speaker 1: your shoes?
[2:24:53] Speaker 2: I left them for you.
[2:24:54] Speaker 3: I left them for you.
[2:24:56] Speaker 2: So basically, all the stuff I had, I just, like,
[2:25:00] Speaker 2: I just wear these.
[2:25:01] Speaker 4: And what was a real comfortable shoe I hooped in
[2:25:03] Speaker 4: when I was with the Knicks, that Jordan 9 that
[2:25:05] Speaker 4: they made in the Knick color?
[2:25:07] Speaker 3: Profiles was mine. I'm tripping.
[2:25:08] Speaker 2: Profiles. Pro model. Pro model was mine. The pro model.
[2:25:14] Speaker 3: I love Adidas pro model. Every size 14 they had,
[2:25:19] Speaker 3: I bought, right?
[2:25:21] Speaker 2: To the point, like, Nike wouldn't send them to me, right?
[2:25:23] Speaker 2: So I searched every pair of them out, and I
[2:25:26] Speaker 2: bought all of them, right? Throughout the city, right? I
[2:25:29] Speaker 2: got a few pair of them, right? But I bought
[2:25:32] Speaker 2: every pair that I could find, right? To the point,
[2:25:34] Speaker 2: my Nike rep put me to the side like, Leo,
[2:25:37] Speaker 2: they on my ass, man.
[2:25:38] Speaker 1: Can you please stop playing at them?
[2:25:41] Speaker 6: Right?
[2:25:41] Speaker 2: Because Melo was a Jordan guy.
[2:25:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[2:25:43] Speaker 4: And I'm playing them nines every game. And they like, yo,
[2:25:46] Speaker 4: can you please? I'm like, these motherfuckers are comfortable. Send
[2:25:48] Speaker 4: me something else.
[2:25:49] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:25:50] Speaker 1: But I was, yeah, them Jordans was comfortable. Your favorite
[2:25:52] Speaker 1: shoe to play?
[2:25:53] Speaker 3: Ooh.
[2:25:54] Speaker 2: Besides my own signature shoes?
[2:25:56] Speaker 1: So before I got my signature.
[2:25:57] Speaker 2: Shoes, uh....
[2:26:02] Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's?
[2:26:06] Speaker 2: I think it was either the Bo Jackson's.
[2:26:08] Speaker 1: Playing cross trainers.
[2:26:10] Speaker 2: Or the Air Max 95's.
[2:26:12] Speaker 1: Playing cross trainers.
[2:26:13] Speaker 2: You were ahead of your time.
[2:26:15] Speaker 3: He'll play it in some Dolce's.
[2:26:17] Speaker 1: Had to run fast. He'll play it in some Dolce's.
[2:26:22] Speaker 2: Stole my shoes, yeah.
[2:26:23] Speaker 3: Them was yours?
[2:26:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
[2:26:25] Speaker 1: You playing seven butt naked dripping wet?
[2:26:27] Speaker 2: I ain't even going to lie. You know, you're just
[2:26:29] Speaker 2: sitting there just chilling. I hate this motherfucker. You wore
[2:26:31] Speaker 2: him to the game?
[2:26:31] Speaker 3: I already got my workout. No, I got my workout in.
[2:26:33] Speaker 2: I'm just saying he wore him to the game. Yeah.
[2:26:36] Speaker 2: He came in the game. Because we got the roll uniform.
[2:26:39] Speaker 2: He came in the game.
[2:26:40] Speaker 3: And I'm like, ain't him nice? And then, you.
[2:26:42] Speaker 2: Know, you take him off. And then you can like,
[2:26:44] Speaker 2: you can.
[2:26:46] Speaker 3: Does that match our jerseys? So he walked out.
[2:26:49] Speaker 2: And I went and matched it up.
[2:26:52] Speaker 3: Oh, hell yeah.
[2:26:53] Speaker 1: Put him back.
[2:26:54] Speaker 2: I don't know how he did it, though.
[2:26:55] Speaker 1: Put him back.
[2:26:56] Speaker 2: We got dressed, had my regular shoes on that I
[2:26:58] Speaker 2: was going to wear.
[2:27:00] Speaker 3: One, two, three.
[2:27:01] Speaker 2: Went out there, did the little warm-up and stuff. Went back,
[2:27:04] Speaker 2: got to go to the bathroom, put his shit on.
[2:27:06] Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
[2:27:08] Speaker 2: Let's go.
[2:27:08] Speaker 3: I don't know how he did that, because I don't really,
[2:27:11] Speaker 3: I don't never hoop him with no soles in my shit.
[2:27:14] Speaker 2: I put my soles in.
[2:27:15] Speaker 6: Wow.
[2:27:17] Speaker 2: Yes, that's another thing about this food.
[2:27:20] Speaker 3: I take my soles out, yeah.
[2:27:21] Speaker 2: He takes his insoles out of his shoes and plays basketball.
[2:27:24] Speaker 2: Because he was poor.
[2:27:27] Speaker 1: What does being poor have to do with taking the
[2:27:28] Speaker 1: insoles out? But he had money.
[2:27:29] Speaker 2: Now the shoes fit now. Before, when the shoes were
[2:27:33] Speaker 2: too small, yes, you take.
[2:27:34] Speaker 1: The insole out.
[2:27:35] Speaker 2: He didn't have to do that as a professional athlete.
[2:27:38] Speaker 3: They sitting in his size.
[2:27:40] Speaker 1: It was already brainwashed.
[2:27:42] Speaker 2: He had to wear the same shoes his whole life.
[2:27:44] Speaker 1: His foot grow. His foot grow.
[2:27:47] Speaker 3: Everybody else didn't.
[2:27:48] Speaker 2: So every time he got to hand me down, he
[2:27:50] Speaker 2: had to.
[2:27:50] Speaker 1: Take the sole out. No, it ain't that. Put your
[2:27:52] Speaker 1: shoes in.
[2:27:53] Speaker 2: All he do. Nah, they used to talk about.
[2:27:54] Speaker 3: People with big feet back in the day.
[2:27:56] Speaker 1: Nah, he got comfortable with it.
[2:27:58] Speaker 3: Because I wanted to fit in and shit. All right.
[2:28:01] Speaker 2: What size?
[2:28:01] Speaker 3: What size you wear? My daddy was a truck driver.
[2:28:03] Speaker 3: What size shoes?
[2:28:04] Speaker 2: And they whoop your daddy ass.
[2:28:05] Speaker 3: What size are your shoes? Uh, 13.
[2:28:10] Speaker 2: What size T-shoe?
[2:28:12] Speaker 3: My shoe is really a 14.
[2:28:13] Speaker 1: What size T-shoe?
[2:28:14] Speaker 3: My shoe is a size 14.
[2:28:14] Speaker 2: What size is T? Your son? His son?
[2:28:15] Speaker 3: No, he's 14.
[2:28:16] Speaker 2: His son? No, his brother. Oh.
[2:28:17] Speaker 1: He's 14 and his brother 13.
[2:28:18] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so he get the 13s, take the soul out,
[2:28:20] Speaker 3: so he.
[2:28:29] Speaker 3: It's all right.
[2:28:29] Speaker 1: Hand me down ass, boy.
[2:28:31] Speaker 2: You hand me down ass. That's what he was used to, man. No, no, no.
[2:28:33] Speaker 1: I had money all the time. I had money all
[2:28:37] Speaker 1: my life. He got money. He got money to buy lotion.
[2:28:40] Speaker 3: I was balling, man.
[2:28:41] Speaker 2: Ask anybody in the hood.
[2:28:42] Speaker 3: Ask anybody.
[2:28:43] Speaker 1: He had no lotion when he grew up, man.
[2:28:45] Speaker 2: Get your ass out the house.
[2:28:47] Speaker 3: I had someone.
[2:28:48] Speaker 1: Let's go to our second question, bro.
[2:28:50] Speaker 3: Back in my day, there was someone.
[2:28:53] Speaker 2: Baby Powder Young is what they called you.
[2:28:55] Speaker 3: They did, because I was one of the coldest players.
[2:28:59] Speaker 2: On my block.
[2:28:59] Speaker 9: All right, so my second question, like many people in
[2:29:01] Speaker 9: this room, I am a Laker fan. Am I overreacting
[2:29:05] Speaker 9: to say that after last night, we are not making
[2:29:08] Speaker 9: it past the first round?
[2:29:09] Speaker 1: No, not at all. But the reality is, you know,
[2:29:12] Speaker 1: it's quite possible. I'll answer that one. No, I'll jump in.
[2:29:16] Speaker 1: Not overreacting. Very difficult to watch. It's hard turning the
[2:29:20] Speaker 1: TV on and seeing that level of play from a
[2:29:23] Speaker 1: team that has championship aspirations. But we will figure it out.
[2:29:27] Speaker 1: We agree with you.
[2:29:30] Speaker 2: It's about the journey. As long as we don't play Denver,
[2:29:37] Speaker 2: we thinking championship.
[2:29:38] Speaker 1: We match up with Denver. That ain't gonna be number one.
[2:29:41] Speaker 2: Huh?
[2:29:42] Speaker 3: That ain't gonna be number one.
[2:29:44] Speaker 1: But as the fourth seed in the West, you know,
[2:29:46] Speaker 1: we'll see who gets that five seed, who will have
[2:29:48] Speaker 1: the home court advantage over. So y'all gonna stay four?
[2:29:50] Speaker 2: Nah, hell nah. We're not gonna be four or nothing.
[2:29:53] Speaker 2: It's a possibility.
[2:29:54] Speaker 1: We have until February. We just want to play Houston.
[2:29:57] Speaker 2: JJ Redick, Negro, Tennessee, hopefully by Black History Month. We
[2:30:00] Speaker 2: shouldn't have won that game last year that gave us
[2:30:03] Speaker 2: the guarantees.
[2:30:03] Speaker 1: I told you that. Fared much better against the Thunder. Hey, man,
[2:30:09] Speaker 1: you said you're the biggest fan?
[2:30:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:30:12] Speaker 3: How many doors down do you live from him?
[2:30:14] Speaker 2: We know you as a neighbor.
[2:30:17] Speaker 9: I live in Winnetka, so I'm the other side of Fenton.
[2:30:20] Speaker 3: The hood, Gil. Yeah. You live rough.
[2:30:23] Speaker 2: I live in Winnetka. They only got two targets over there.
[2:30:26] Speaker 2: I called the nigga who I'm allowed to look at.
[2:30:27] Speaker 1: Whole Foods ain't over there, Gil. Shit, biggest fan.
[2:30:32] Speaker 3: They just come out.
[2:30:34] Speaker 1: Biggest fan. You ain't got a fan?
[2:30:36] Speaker 3: It ain't a fan. It's family, you know. That's family, man.
[2:30:41] Speaker 2: He had the autographed jersey.
[2:30:42] Speaker 3: I know that's Nick Jr. 's jersey, bro.
[2:30:44] Speaker 2: I seen the stains on him, man. Kool-Aid stains, man,
[2:30:48] Speaker 2: all on the goddamn shirt. That's him. I can't wait.
[2:30:51] Speaker 3: I can't wait.
[2:30:54] Speaker 1: Sophisticus likely to ensue after this program. We appreciate you
[2:30:58] Speaker 1: pulling up, asking those mostly fans questions. Appreciate everybody on
[2:31:00] Speaker 1: this couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat. As always, another
[2:31:03] Speaker 1: productive week here in Gilberto's arena presented by Underdog Fans.
[2:31:08] Speaker 2: They said Nick wasn't broke. I don't know.
[2:31:11] Speaker 3: It's your parents.
[2:31:11] Speaker 2: I have, I have. We will see y'all next week.
[2:31:16] Speaker 2: I have both my parents. Yeah, both. I was a
[2:31:18] Speaker 2: good guy.
[2:31:18] Speaker 3: I wasn't serious.

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