# Gil's Arena TROLLS The Celtics For Choking Game 1

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 6 May 2025, 2 h 39 min.

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Gil's Arena Reacts To A THRILLING Night of NBA Playoff Basketball as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to the arena and break down an incredible night of upsets in the 2nd Round of the NBA Playoffs. They start things off with the reigning champs as the Boston Celtics choked away a 20 point 2nd half lead to fall to the New York Knicks in overtime and discuss if this win for New York showed more about the Celtics or their feisty opponent. They also break down how the Celtics' affinity for shooting 3 pointers at a high clip came back to bite them on an off night for Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown and debate if Jalen Brunson is the perfect leader for this Knicks squad. They predict if this Game 1 upset will carry the Knicks throughout the series before turning their attention to the West, where Nikola Jokic shined and set up Aaron Gordon for another game winning shot to carry the Denver Nuggets over the OKC Thunder in Game One. The Gil's Arena Crew debates what has gotten into Gordon after hitting multiple game winners this season and highlight how Nikola Jokic's insane stat line and ability to coach the team after the firing of Mike Malone is proving he's the NBA's Best Player. Finally, they give Gregg Popovich his flowers after the legendary head coach announced his retirement this season and discuss his incredible impact on the game of basketball, before giving their series predictions for the matchup between the Golden State Warriors & Minnesota Timberwolves. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Nick Young, Jordan Crawford & Brandon Jennings Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/ARENA to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:01:52 – Show Start 0:08:11 – Gilbert Arenas Previews His Netflix Doc 0:13:39 – MET Gala Fit Reactions 0:17:47 – Knicks Thrilling Overtime Win 0:31:54 – Jalen Brunson Is The Perfect Knick 0:41:44 – Naming The Best Corner Guy 0:52:12 – Trolling The Celtics For Their Bad Game 1:14:43 – Jokic Showed SGA He's The Real MVP 1:37:31 – Breaking Down The Game Winning Play 1:49:32 – Will The Thunder Bounce Back In Game 2? 1:52:38 – Rashad Celebrates Lakers In 5 1:58:06 – Jordan Crawford's Time Playing With Steph 2:03:22 – How Is Swaggy P As A Head Coach 2:08:58 – Kenny Atkinson Coach Of The Year 2:17:03 – Should The Cavs Be Worried About Their Injuries? 2:23:46 – Timberwolves - Warriors Predictions 2:29:33 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[1:52] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa!
[1:58] Speaker 2: Glorious Tuesday here in the arena. Playoff basketball underway. Home
[2:02] Speaker 2: teams yet to win a playoff game in the second round.
[2:05] Speaker 2: How everybody feeling today? Okay, not everybody at once.
[2:09] Speaker 1: Good, good, good. Not a full couch here today. It's
[2:13] Speaker 1: over early. I didn't go to sleep until late.
[2:20] Speaker 2: I had to watch The Doc. Up late. Netflix, The Doc, Untold,
[2:26] Speaker 2: Shooting Guards.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. I stayed up late and watched it last night.
[2:30] Speaker 1: Even though I had it. I mean, I had it
[2:32] Speaker 1: for two weeks in the email, but I don't check emails.
[2:37] Speaker 2: You do not check emails, cannot take incoming calls. A
[2:41] Speaker 2: lot of things going on, but this is Gil's Arena
[2:44] Speaker 2: presented by Underdog. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert
[2:47] Speaker 2: Arenas here with us. On this side of the couch,
[2:53] Speaker 2: we've got NBA champion of the world and big three
[2:56] Speaker 2: champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young here.
[2:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, put them up. That man.
[3:03] Speaker 2: And on this side of the couch, we got the
[3:04] Speaker 2: man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants, back.
[3:09] Speaker 1: In the building, NCAA champion of the world.
[3:13] Speaker 2: And representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B,
[3:17] Speaker 2: Brandon Jennings here with us. And we got a special
[3:22] Speaker 2: guest making his first appearance in the arena. First round
[3:25] Speaker 2: pick in the 2010 draft out of Xavier. Went on
[3:28] Speaker 2: to play six seasons in the league for five different teams,
[3:30] Speaker 2: including the Wizards, Celtics, and Warriors. Also went on to
[3:33] Speaker 2: have a successful career internationally. I think I had, what,
[3:36] Speaker 2: 43 a game out in China doing your thing? And
[3:39] Speaker 2: under the guidance and championship experience of head coach Swaggy P,
[3:45] Speaker 2: you won a chip in 2023 with the enemy squad
[3:47] Speaker 2: in the big three.
[3:48] Speaker 1: Jordan Crawford, welcome to Gil's Arena. Appreciate it, appreciate it. Boy,
[3:55] Speaker 1: I didn't want to say something already. Come on, man. Yeah, motherfucker.
[4:01] Speaker 1: I put this together. No, you didn't put the team together.
[4:05] Speaker 1: You didn't put the team together. You didn't. Get it
[4:08] Speaker 1: off me. I made it happen. No, you didn't make
[4:10] Speaker 1: it happen. I got him because you wasn't playing. You
[4:14] Speaker 1: got me because I was your friend. Yes, I was
[4:16] Speaker 1: your friend. I was like, oh, I can guard. I
[4:17] Speaker 1: can put the ball in the basket. And my mom
[4:20] Speaker 1: wasn't right for that. Yeah, I know. You know what
[4:22] Speaker 1: we have to get? Getting credit for the championship on
[4:24] Speaker 1: a guy. That's crazy. I appreciate both of y'all. I
[4:28] Speaker 1: like Denver. I like Denver. You're Adamant? You're Tyrone Lou, huh? Okay.
[4:39] Speaker 3: Nah, thanks for having me, though. It's a pleasure to
[4:41] Speaker 3: be out here. Y'all the hottest doing it. I appreciate it.
[4:45] Speaker 1: No doubt. Well, thank you for coming through.
[4:46] Speaker 2: We got a lot of things to get into, but
[4:48] Speaker 2: for all the fans out there, We still got two
[4:50] Speaker 2: viewing options for our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick
[4:53] Speaker 2: whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you
[4:55] Speaker 2: support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[4:58] Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson in the Knicks overcame a 20-point deficit to
[5:01] Speaker 2: steal game one and home court advantage from the Celtics.
[5:04] Speaker 2: Will Boston's thirst for shooting threes keep costing them wins
[5:07] Speaker 2: in this series? NBA playoff record, 45 missed threes. Playoff record,
[5:11] Speaker 2: 63 in the game. Did not win the game, though.
[5:14] Speaker 2: Took the L. Jokic and the Nuggets took round one
[5:19] Speaker 2: from SGA in the Thunder thanks to another big bucket
[5:21] Speaker 2: from Aaron Gordon. Did OKC make the right decision fouling
[5:25] Speaker 2: up three late in the game?
[5:27] Speaker 1: We will discuss.
[5:28] Speaker 2: And Kenny Atkinson was named head coach of the year
[5:30] Speaker 2: after leading the Cavs to the best record in the
[5:32] Speaker 2: East in his first season in Cleveland. But did Atkinson
[5:35] Speaker 2: have the most impressive coaching experience? performance this season. Before
[5:39] Speaker 2: we get into all that, as always, this show is
[5:40] Speaker 2: brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app,
[5:42] Speaker 2: use promo code GIL, get up to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash,
[5:44] Speaker 2: plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, Mr. B has
[5:48] Speaker 2: some picks up on his partner pack on the Underdog app.
[5:50] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at Mr. B's picks for this evening.
[5:53] Speaker 2: You got Tyrese Halliburton, higher, 28.5 points in assists. Pascal Siakam, higher,
[6:00] Speaker 2: 19.5 points. Ant-Man, lower, 40.5 points in rebounds and assists.
[6:06] Speaker 2: Warriors-Wolves game one tonight. Steph Curry, higher, 10.5 rebounds and assists.
[6:10] Speaker 2: And Julius Randle, higher, 6.5 rebounds in that game tonight.
[6:14] Speaker 2: If you roll with Mr. B's partner pack, you can
[6:16] Speaker 2: win nearly 18 times your bread. How's everybody else on
[6:19] Speaker 2: the couch feeling about Mr.
[6:20] Speaker 1: B's picks tonight? It's a lot of money you can win.
[6:23] Speaker 1: I like them. We rolling? Mm.
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[6:34] Speaker 1: Mm. Mm-mm. Rebounds and assists? Siakam probably the only one. No,
[6:39] Speaker 1: Siakam getting 20.
[6:42] Speaker 3: No, I'm saying he's the only one going to get it.
[6:46] Speaker 1: Randall will get seven boards. And then Tyrese, he's going
[6:49] Speaker 1: to get it. He's going to get 17. 17 to 12,
[6:51] Speaker 1: you think? Or what? 18 and 11? 19 and 10?
[6:53] Speaker 4: 15? 16?
[6:53] Speaker 1: 20 and 9? Nah, nah, nah. Because Cleveland shutting that
[6:55] Speaker 1: shit down. Who guarding them?
[7:05] Speaker 6: All of them. They got 12 motherfuckers. Bro, send that
[7:10] Speaker 6: pic with Jared Allen every time.
[7:13] Speaker 1: Shit.
[7:14] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat if they are riding or
[7:16] Speaker 2: fading with your pics tonight, Mr. B. 44% of the
[7:19] Speaker 2: chat riding. 56% of the chat not riding with these pics.
[7:23] Speaker 3: But for the 44% who are. Yo, I've been drafting.
[7:26] Speaker 3: I've been winning on the draft, though. That's what I've
[7:29] Speaker 3: been at. Y'all got me motivated to start doing this draft.
[7:31] Speaker 3: You're getting third, right?
[7:32] Speaker 1: Yep. 22,000 people. That's where I'd be winning on that draft.
[7:40] Speaker 1: That draft, put $ 30 in, win $ 10, 000. I'm going to
[7:41] Speaker 1: stay where I'm at. I'm going to stay winning where
[7:45] Speaker 1: I'm at. Stay with the pickups. You coming third, you
[7:48] Speaker 1: win still? Hell yeah.
[7:49] Speaker 4: I mean, you win all the way through. I mean,
[7:51] Speaker 4: $ 10 or something, $ 20.
[7:53] Speaker 1: But you win, though. You're going to win something. Okay.
[7:56] Speaker 2: So if you like Mr. B's picks, go ahead and
[7:59] Speaker 2: ride with him. If you don't have the Underdog app,
[8:00] Speaker 2: go ahead and download it now. Use promo code GIL
[8:02] Speaker 2: to get up to $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a
[8:04] Speaker 2: special pick-em. And if you can't watch the show live
[8:06] Speaker 2: with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify,
[8:08] Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. We'll get to playoff basketball
[8:11] Speaker 2: in just a moment. But today, Netflix released Untold Shooting Guards,
[8:16] Speaker 2: the story of how a wager between Wizards teammates Gilbert
[8:18] Speaker 2: Arenas and Javaris Crinton went too far. So here is
[8:22] Speaker 2: the trailer for the film. That was the trailer. from
[8:26] Speaker 2: Untold Shooting Guards, now streaming on Netflix. So, Gil, what
[8:29] Speaker 2: was it like to put yourself back in that situation
[8:32] Speaker 2: for this documentary?
[8:32] Speaker 1: It's like I never left. Stop. Stop. Stop. No. I'm serious, man.
[8:43] Speaker 1: That's why I got in trouble, right? No, it was...
[8:49] Speaker 1: It was good, man.
[8:49] Speaker 6: Like.
[8:52] Speaker 1: I did it. I did the doc, you know, because
[8:55] Speaker 1: of Javaris. Right.
[8:57] Speaker 4: You know, this is one of them things that, you know,
[9:00] Speaker 4: you know, I could have told a story a long
[9:02] Speaker 4: time ago and had it be a one sided story.
[9:05] Speaker 4: But I just didn't think that was fair to someone
[9:08] Speaker 4: else who was part of this. So, you know, I
[9:10] Speaker 4: was waiting to, you know, he got out and then
[9:13] Speaker 4: we can tell our story together because it's so many
[9:16] Speaker 4: moving parts. But Me telling a story, you know, with
[9:23] Speaker 4: last year versus when I first retired, very different outlook.
[9:28] Speaker 1: Right? You know, when I.
[9:31] Speaker 4: Was in a real dark place and, you know, thinking,
[9:34] Speaker 4: you know, the world was against me, it could have
[9:36] Speaker 4: went down a real bad rabbit hole. You know, so,
[9:39] Speaker 4: you know, but, you know, I liked it. I stayed
[9:42] Speaker 4: up to 12, you.
[9:42] Speaker 1: Know, to watch it. Oh, man. Hey, man.
[9:48] Speaker 4: I see you in your hat.
[9:52] Speaker 1: What year was this? You had your ghetto break? What
[9:54] Speaker 1: was that? I was going through a deep heart. Oh,
[9:56] Speaker 1: I was going to say, don't you ever. Don't you
[9:58] Speaker 1: ever get on the dock looking like that. I was
[10:00] Speaker 1: fucked up, too. I was just out to leave. I
[10:02] Speaker 1: was fucked up, too. I could have did a documentary, too.
[10:06] Speaker 3: That's the only reason why I never got to play
[10:08] Speaker 3: in that motherfucker. When I went to the Wizards, that
[10:11] Speaker 3: shit was mayhem because.
[10:13] Speaker 1: Of all that shit. Oh, you was right out there? Oh, yeah.
[10:17] Speaker 1: That shit was... No, it was good, though. I saw it.
[10:19] Speaker 1: That's dope. Man, brother, I'm sorry, man. No, I'm sorry.
[10:22] Speaker 1: You drafted me in the big group. You know, dark people.
[10:25] Speaker 1: Dark people. Hey, hey, hey. Being dark at that time, boy,
[10:30] Speaker 1: there ain't one of us. For sure. I was the
[10:34] Speaker 1: casualty on last year. Yeah, you were. For real. I
[10:37] Speaker 1: walked into the Wizards' locker room. This nigga was acting
[10:40] Speaker 1: hurt and shit. I said, where up? Where I'm at?
[10:42] Speaker 1: Where I'm at, man? Pretending to be hurt. He was like,
[10:47] Speaker 1: my knee. Him and Dre Blanchard. I was like, oh, shit.
[10:51] Speaker 1: I had my stats. He's done.
[10:55] Speaker 7: They was trying to fuck with me at the time.
[10:59] Speaker 7: They traded, brought him in. They were trying to push
[11:01] Speaker 7: me to the back. I was like, I ain't going
[11:03] Speaker 7: to mess up my 18. Hey, hey.
[11:08] Speaker 1: He's a smart man. I wish I knew that type
[11:10] Speaker 1: of shit. What's up? What's up?
[11:13] Speaker 2: So I was going to ask you this, but I
[11:14] Speaker 2: already know the answer. But how much have you changed
[11:16] Speaker 2: since the gun incident in the Wizards locker room?
[11:21] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[11:21] Speaker 4: I ain't played Car Assist. I've not played no Car Assist.
[11:25] Speaker 4: You do have Battle Mode. Hopefully Battle Mode does not
[11:28] Speaker 4: get you.
[11:28] Speaker 1: No, I mean, it was never really about Car Assist.
[11:31] Speaker 4: No, it was never really about, you know, have you
[11:34] Speaker 4: seen it? It wasn't about actually gambling. It was more about,
[11:38] Speaker 4: you know, just, you know, respecting teammates when you're angry,
[11:42] Speaker 4: you know, so.
[11:43] Speaker 1: And also weapons. Your collection. You see that? Hey, man,
[11:49] Speaker 1: you see that? That tiger. Tiger strike, boy! Boy, couldn't
[11:54] Speaker 1: find that nowhere, man. I was mad when he took
[11:56] Speaker 1: that one.
[11:56] Speaker 2: The Wizards probably better off not letting you travel to
[11:59] Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns games.
[12:00] Speaker 1: I remember some of them. It was the Gold Desert.
[12:02] Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Gold Desert, he's a little, you know,
[12:05] Speaker 4: Smith & Wesson 500.
[12:06] Speaker 1: You can't shoot that. That shit was like, it was 1975.
[12:09] Speaker 1: How old was you? No cameras, what? Oh, he was
[12:12] Speaker 1: a kid? Oh, yeah. You see, hit the game winner,
[12:19] Speaker 1: you know, three on three, hoop it up. I was
[12:22] Speaker 1: here early. Three on three, hoop it up.
[12:25] Speaker 2: But for everybody out there, make sure you check out
[12:27] Speaker 2: Untold Shooting Guards, now streaming on Netflix. So let's keep
[12:31] Speaker 2: this moving. Yesterday was the Met Gala in New York City.
[12:35] Speaker 2: So this year's dress code was tailored for you, was
[12:39] Speaker 2: basically paying homage to Taylor in black style, exploring the
[12:43] Speaker 2: history of black dandyism, whatever that means.
[12:46] Speaker 1: Have no clue. But it starts to interfere, as it
[12:50] Speaker 1: always is.
[12:50] Speaker 2: So let's take a look at some of the fits
[12:52] Speaker 2: and see what our resident fashion designer, Mr. B, has
[12:54] Speaker 2: to say about them. First up, we have director and
[12:57] Speaker 2: Knicks superfan, Spike Lee, along with his wife, Tanya Lewis Lee,
[13:03] Speaker 2: in their fits. He got the Knicks cap on.
[13:06] Speaker 1: It's normal. Doing what he do. We also have a representative.
[13:10] Speaker 1: You said that's normal?
[13:11] Speaker 6: I mean, that's pretty normal for what they want. It's
[13:13] Speaker 6: supposed to be a little more crazy.
[13:15] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[13:15] Speaker 1: He's supposed to be going crazy for his fit, man.
[13:17] Speaker 3: You got to be a better designer, extraordinary expert, bro.
[13:21] Speaker 1: Come on, break it down. What is he wearing? A
[13:24] Speaker 1: black shirt. Come on, man. What is he wearing, my nigga?
[13:28] Speaker 1: What is she wearing? What are we doing? We're supposed
[13:30] Speaker 1: to be listening to the Grammy red carpet right now. Dandy?
[13:34] Speaker 1: What is dandy? Like the Jigaboo outfits. I don't think
[13:38] Speaker 1: it's the Jigaboo outfits. Like Dick Tracy?
[13:42] Speaker 4: It's a style and attitude characterized by exaggerated attention to
[13:45] Speaker 4: personal appearance and manner, often associated with a fine taste
[13:49] Speaker 4: and a sense of self-expression.
[13:51] Speaker 2: Again, do you not know what any of that shit means?
[13:53] Speaker 2: But those words look good. The word, whatever the fuck
[13:57] Speaker 2: you want. Where would you dig?
[13:59] Speaker 1: Express yourself. So next up, we have WNBA All-Star Angel Reese. Oh, yeah,
[14:08] Speaker 1: I like that. I ain't doing her thing. Okay. I
[14:10] Speaker 1: like that all black. You rocking with the fitness? Yeah,
[14:12] Speaker 1: I like the hair and everything.
[14:13] Speaker 2: Okay, so next up, we have artist and visionary Andre 3000.
[14:18] Speaker 1: Is that Prada? Piano on his back. Let's go. I mean.
[14:26] Speaker 1: That's a photoshop, man. Stop. No, that's real. That's a real? No,
[14:30] Speaker 1: that's real. Came with a piano. You wore that big-ass piano. No,
[14:32] Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is that a trash bag? They didn't
[14:34] Speaker 1: let him. I was wondering the same thing. Yeah, in
[14:36] Speaker 1: a trash bag. They didn't let him. Black trash bag. Yeah,
[14:38] Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, I get all that. You can't get
[14:41] Speaker 1: in the door with that.
[14:43] Speaker 9: You gotta go in like this. You gotta go in
[14:46] Speaker 9: like this. You gotta roll it in. No way. You
[14:51] Speaker 9: can't walk in with that. Now that's very Andre. What's
[14:53] Speaker 9: in that bag, bro? There's no sandwiches sitting there, man.
[14:54] Speaker 9: What's in the bag? That's a trash bag, though.
[14:56] Speaker 1: That looks like a fucking....
[15:06] Speaker 2: Upcoming album, seven piano sketches coming from Andre 3000. Like
[15:09] Speaker 2: a parachute, man. Then we have producer, artist, Louis Vuitton
[15:13] Speaker 2: creative director, Pharrell.
[15:15] Speaker 1: The pearl. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, he
[15:21] Speaker 1: and the Louis V. Yeah, I'm rolling. He got pearl.
[15:26] Speaker 1: That's a pearl jacket. That's all pearl.
[15:28] Speaker 2: And lastly, we have rapper, actor, fashion icon, A $ AP Rocky.
[15:32] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at A $ AP Rocky's fit. He
[15:34] Speaker 1: killed it. If we can, please, Mr. Paolo. He said
[15:38] Speaker 1: he's getting it right. Yo, Louis Vuitton has been going
[15:43] Speaker 1: crazy lately.
[15:45] Speaker 2: That's A $ AP Rocky's fit at the Met Gala, which
[15:48] Speaker 2: none of us were invited to.
[15:49] Speaker 1: That's definitely something I would wear. Is that a gun? Yes. Yes. Ha!
[15:53] Speaker 1: On the umbrella. Yeah, because he just got off. That's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[16:00] Speaker 3: See, he do the shit I do.
[16:02] Speaker 1: That's 50 games of suspension. Watch out. 50 games incoming.
[16:05] Speaker 1: Don't get your ass in trouble. Showing his partner. Yeah, brother.
[16:09] Speaker 2: And quick, if we could put a camera on Gil. Gil,
[16:11] Speaker 2: your fashion choice today, you got the Hardens and the
[16:14] Speaker 2: Hardball jersey.
[16:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. G-Baby? G-Baby. You got the G-Baby? G-Baby. You got
[16:19] Speaker 1: the G-Baby. You don't have people doing A's and Bernies
[16:21] Speaker 1: like that. G-Baby. That's a piece of legend, G-Baby. Yeah.
[16:25] Speaker 2: So, yeah, like I said, we were not invited to
[16:27] Speaker 2: the Met Gala yet again. Mr. B, hopefully one day
[16:29] Speaker 2: you'll get the invite for us. Go out there and represent.
[16:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:33] Speaker 2: Gilles Reina presented my underdog, woop woop. So, first and
[16:35] Speaker 2: last people we showed here are from New York. So,
[16:38] Speaker 2: let's discuss New York's basketball team if we can. If
[16:42] Speaker 2: you watched the show yesterday, you heard both Swaggy P
[16:44] Speaker 2: and Mr. B say the Knicks don't have a chance
[16:47] Speaker 2: against the Celtics in the Eastern Semis. You guys just
[16:49] Speaker 2: say that. We can play the tape if you'd like.
[16:51] Speaker 2: Or you could just own up for it.
[16:54] Speaker 1: Play it in your mind.
[16:55] Speaker 2: Everybody go back and watch yesterday's show after this show.
[16:58] Speaker 2: Leave it up for the entire time. Also said Jalen
[17:01] Speaker 2: Brunson has not been the best guard in the 2025
[17:04] Speaker 2: playoffs thus far. That was a criteria. Best guard. You
[17:08] Speaker 2: guys did not agree. Would those words ring true in
[17:10] Speaker 2: game one? Let's take a look at the highlights. So
[17:14] Speaker 2: Celtics went 4-0 against the Knicks in the regular season.
[17:17] Speaker 2: So surely they were going to cruise here or so
[17:19] Speaker 2: they thought. Jason Tatum came out hot, scoring 14 points
[17:22] Speaker 2: in the first quarter on 4-for-8 shooting. For the rest
[17:24] Speaker 2: of the game, though, Tatum scored 9 more points.
[17:27] Speaker 1: On 3-for-15 shooting.
[17:28] Speaker 2: He ended the night with 23 and 16 rebounds. He
[17:31] Speaker 2: was 4 of 15 from 3. Jalen Brown had 23.7
[17:34] Speaker 2: rebounds and 5 assists, struggling from 3-point range as well,
[17:38] Speaker 2: like many of the Celtics did last night, going 1-for-10
[17:41] Speaker 2: on the night. Derek White had 19 points and 11 rebounds,
[17:43] Speaker 2: and Drew Holiday added 16 and 6 rebounds of his own.
[17:46] Speaker 2: Kristaps Porzingis, also known as Tingus Pingus, left in the
[17:50] Speaker 2: middle of the game with an illness, did not return.
[17:52] Speaker 2: Celtics looked good early, leading by 16 points at halftime.
[17:56] Speaker 2: At half, Celtics were shooting five for 23 from three-point range, 22%,
[18:00] Speaker 2: but it was not a huge concern since they were
[18:02] Speaker 2: up big at that time. Boston's lead got as high
[18:05] Speaker 2: as 20 points in the middle of the third quarter.
[18:07] Speaker 2: Swaggy P put the broom emojis in the girls' arena
[18:09] Speaker 2: group chat at that point, but the Knicks had other ideas.
[18:13] Speaker 2: New York, Serge cut the lead to nine points by
[18:15] Speaker 2: the end of the third quarter. OG Ananobi had 29
[18:17] Speaker 2: for the game. including 20 in the third and fourth
[18:20] Speaker 2: quarters combined. Jalen Brunson had 29 as well, including 20
[18:23] Speaker 2: in the third.
[18:24] Speaker 1: And fourth quarters combined.
[18:26] Speaker 2: Cat was in foul trouble for most of the night,
[18:27] Speaker 2: but still managed to get a double-double with 14 points
[18:29] Speaker 2: and 13 rebounds. Josh Hart, 14 and 11 rebounds. So
[18:32] Speaker 2: Brunson scored eight straight points late in the fourth quarter
[18:35] Speaker 2: to give the Knicks a 97-91 lead. Celtics went on
[18:38] Speaker 2: a 7-0 run to take the lead back at 98-97.
[18:42] Speaker 2: Brunson found Anobi in the corner for a three to
[18:44] Speaker 2: give the Knicks a two-point lead, but Drew Holliday tied
[18:46] Speaker 2: the game with a driving layup. Tatum pulled up for
[18:49] Speaker 2: three in a tie and missed, giving the Knicks a
[18:52] Speaker 2: chance to steal it later in the game.
[18:55] Speaker 1: They did not.
[18:56] Speaker 2: Brunson had a great look on a floater but missed
[18:58] Speaker 2: the game. Winner sent the game to overtime. In the
[18:59] Speaker 2: OT period, Knicks outscored the Celtics 8-5. Mikael Bridges, two
[19:03] Speaker 2: critical steals and a corner three that swung the momentum
[19:06] Speaker 2: in the Knicks' way during that OT. Bridges played 51 minutes.
[19:11] Speaker 2: Ended with 8.7 assists, 6 rebounds, and 3 steals. So,
[19:16] Speaker 2: missed threes were the story of this one for the Celtics. Celtics,
[19:21] Speaker 2: 15 for 60 from the three-point line. 25% set an
[19:24] Speaker 2: NBA record with 63 point attempts. Set an NBA playoff
[19:27] Speaker 2: record with 45 missed threes. No, no, you didn't write
[19:32] Speaker 2: what I said when you put the broom. What did
[19:34] Speaker 2: you say when Swaggy put the broom?
[19:36] Speaker 4: I said, if the Knicks shot free throws better, Knicks
[19:41] Speaker 4: can win this game. Boston's having that horrible three-point game,
[19:46] Speaker 4: that 10-for-40 stat.
[19:48] Speaker 2: That's what I wrote. You did reply with that. We
[19:51] Speaker 2: do have the timestamps on it for any who doubt.
[19:53] Speaker 2: You had to make sure the people knew you put... No,
[19:56] Speaker 2: because I heard... He said yours.
[19:58] Speaker 1: He put the broom. No, because... You.
[20:01] Speaker 7: Didn't have to jump in on my situation. See, that's...
[20:04] Speaker 7: I just wanted to make sure... You did put brooms
[20:05] Speaker 7: in the group chat.
[20:06] Speaker 1: You put brooms in the group chat. Still brooms. Gentleman's sweet.
[20:08] Speaker 1: Like I said, Celtics playoff record, 45 missed threes in
[20:11] Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, talk about it.
[20:12] Speaker 2: Was game one more about the Knicks' comeback or the
[20:15] Speaker 2: Celtics choking and living and dying by the three?
[20:18] Speaker 7: It ain't Celtics choking, you know.
[20:23] Speaker 1: Just a little rusty, that's all. Just getting the rust out.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Getting the rust out. Yeah.
[20:28] Speaker 3: Jason Taylor be throwing Hail Mary threes up. That's my
[20:32] Speaker 3: only thing. I still think they a championship team, but.
[20:36] Speaker 3: He got to stop going to the Hail Mary. Four
[20:39] Speaker 3: for 15 from three in the game for Tatum. A
[20:42] Speaker 3: lot of those questionable.
[20:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Especially late in the game.
[20:47] Speaker 6: I mean, I like the Knicks fight, but I still
[20:50] Speaker 6: see the Knicks winning the series, though. Yeah, they miss
[20:55] Speaker 6: a lot of threes, but they won't shoot like that
[20:57] Speaker 6: again next game.
[21:00] Speaker 1: Mr.
[21:00] Speaker 2: Cemetery, Larry, former Celtics fan. Current Knicks fan, the battle
[21:05] Speaker 2: of your two teams. Do you feel like you made
[21:10] Speaker 2: the right decision? After the Celtics won the championship last summer,
[21:14] Speaker 2: you said, see y'all later, I'm going over, taking my
[21:16] Speaker 2: talents to the Big Apple, New York Knickerbockers.
[21:19] Speaker 1: They get the win in game one.
[21:21] Speaker 2: Was this win about the Knicks and their big comeback
[21:24] Speaker 2: or the Celtics choking?
[21:25] Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Larry.
[21:27] Speaker 3: By the way, I make predictions and they come to fruition.
[21:34] Speaker 3: That's just how it go around here. I mean, you
[21:36] Speaker 3: got to get used to it. When I tell y'all
[21:39] Speaker 3: some shit, y'all fucking listen. And give me credit when
[21:42] Speaker 3: I'm fucking right. Thank you, Brendan, yesterday. You held it down.
[21:48] Speaker 3: You said Rashad said that buddy would do what he did.
[21:54] Speaker 3: Buddy did what he did. The Knicks is doing what
[21:58] Speaker 3: they doing. Like I said, let's go. Live by the three,
[22:04] Speaker 3: die by the three. They're going to keep doing the
[22:08] Speaker 3: same shit till they make them.
[22:10] Speaker 1: And that same thing happened to me at 24 the
[22:13] Speaker 1: other day.
[22:13] Speaker 7: I was up 10 to three, underestimating them.
[22:18] Speaker 1: I ended up losing the game to 13. Kept shooting threes.
[22:21] Speaker 1: It's bullshit.
[22:22] Speaker 7: So it happens. You get comfortable. You're up 20. You
[22:28] Speaker 7: start throwing up shit. And then next thing you know.
[22:32] Speaker 1: You lose. They stole one. So that was a decision
[22:36] Speaker 1: you made. Well, you know. To be on the losing
[22:40] Speaker 1: end of the game. Nah, it just happens, nigga. Fucking around.
[22:44] Speaker 1: They stole one.
[22:44] Speaker 7: And then that's like the basketball guys messing with like,
[22:48] Speaker 7: just because you did this, I'm going to let this happen,
[22:51] Speaker 7: you know.
[22:51] Speaker 1: Guess what happens when you fuck around? It's all right.
[22:55] Speaker 10: You know what happens next. You fucking find out, nigga.
[22:59] Speaker 10: It's called fuck around and find out.
[23:02] Speaker 7: They didn't even come back when Bronson was in the game, too.
[23:04] Speaker 7: You know, Bronson came in when they was probably down six,
[23:10] Speaker 7: you know, kind of saved the day a little bit.
[23:14] Speaker 7: But the only thing I'm kind of mad about is
[23:17] Speaker 7: Jason Tatum taking that three for game. I feel when
[23:19] Speaker 7: you got Cat on you and JT, I think you
[23:23] Speaker 7: should be able to take him to the hole, get
[23:27] Speaker 7: a better shot. But those are the type of things
[23:28] Speaker 7: that's going to make Jason Tatum be like LeBron, one
[23:33] Speaker 7: of them most haters, because them type of shots he
[23:35] Speaker 7: shot for games.
[23:36] Speaker 1: What was Jalen Brown from the field?
[23:39] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown was 7 for 20 in the game, 1
[23:43] Speaker 4: for 10 from 3.
[23:44] Speaker 1: They both was trash. So there ain't nobody else to
[23:48] Speaker 1: take that last shot, really. Both the J's.
[23:50] Speaker 2: 46 points, but they were 14 of 43 from the field.
[23:55] Speaker 1: Three for 15. Five for 20. That's a lot of
[23:57] Speaker 1: quick shots, too. Yeah, bad shots. White shot, a lot
[24:00] Speaker 1: of quick shots. Tatum, four for 15 from three. Four
[24:03] Speaker 1: for 15. Jalen Brown, one for 10 from three. They're combined. Yeah, no,
[24:06] Speaker 1: they shot themselves out the game.
[24:08] Speaker 10: And that was to tie it up? Or was that shot,
[24:11] Speaker 10: the three-pointer.
[24:12] Speaker 1: Was to win? The game, yeah. It was tied up?
[24:14] Speaker 1: It was tied up. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. But
[24:17] Speaker 1: I get what he's saying when he has a complaint
[24:19] Speaker 1: about that.
[24:20] Speaker 3: Because that's a bailout. That's bail him out. That's what
[24:23] Speaker 3: we preach. You hear that, Coach. Don't bail him out.
[24:27] Speaker 3: Don't bail him out with a jumper, bro. It's a
[24:29] Speaker 3: tie game. They got to give you a foul or
[24:31] Speaker 3: you're going to get a clean shot. Don't bail him out.
[24:35] Speaker 2: So we watched this game on playback last night before
[24:37] Speaker 2: we watched Thunder Nuggets, which we'll talk about a little
[24:39] Speaker 2: bit later in the show. McGill, Celtics, 63-point attempts, NBA record,
[24:44] Speaker 2: 105 points.
[24:47] Speaker 1: In this game.
[24:56] Speaker 4: I mean, didn't we have a big discussion about this?
[24:58] Speaker 4: We have talked about it. I said this was going
[25:00] Speaker 4: to happen. They have these 10 for 60 type games,
[25:05] Speaker 4: and they don't shoot enough twos to offset it. You know,
[25:09] Speaker 4: you shoot 180 points worth of threes, and you.
[25:13] Speaker 1: Score 105, 100, 110.
[25:13] Speaker 4: You're not going to win a game if somebody's just
[25:19] Speaker 4: going for twos.
[25:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. There goes this game. They're going to have another one.
[25:23] Speaker 1: That's the motto.
[25:25] Speaker 4: Out of a seven-game series, you're going to have two
[25:27] Speaker 4: games like this. You're going to have a game and
[25:28] Speaker 4: a half where you're lights out.
[25:31] Speaker 1: You're going to win.
[25:32] Speaker 4: And then you're going to have a normal game where
[25:34] Speaker 4: you're probably like 38% from the three. And now you're
[25:38] Speaker 4: playing against a guy, which is Brunson. I said Giannis.
[25:42] Speaker 4: You have a guy who's not going to chuck a
[25:43] Speaker 4: bunch of threes. You're going to have a guy who
[25:45] Speaker 4: does come in there and try to get his mid-range
[25:47] Speaker 4: shots on. They don't shoot enough twos. When you're having
[25:52] Speaker 4: bad three-point, like you shot 63s. 63s, 37 twos. That's crazy.
[25:58] Speaker 4: The Knicks, 37 threes, 52s, but they were 17 for
[26:03] Speaker 4: 37 from the three-point line, 46% in the game compared
[26:06] Speaker 4: to the Celtics, 25%. And this is the one you
[26:10] Speaker 4: can't trick off, right, if you're the Knicks when they
[26:12] Speaker 4: have this poor shooting night.
[26:13] Speaker 1: And look, they were up 20. They were feeling themselves. Bro,
[26:16] Speaker 1: you got to look at the reality of the situation.
[26:19] Speaker 3: If they played the game they played all season and
[26:21] Speaker 3: they fucking missed all them threes, that ain't got nothing
[26:23] Speaker 3: to do with how the fuck we play.
[26:26] Speaker 10: We did everything we were supposed to do to win
[26:27] Speaker 10: the game. And they got to figure out how to
[26:31] Speaker 10: stop us. Because we know them at their best, they
[26:35] Speaker 10: can just make a bunch of threes. But we know
[26:36] Speaker 10: if we get into their shot-making ability, their wide-open comfortability.
[26:43] Speaker 1: They're going to miss shots. We just need to convert.
[26:45] Speaker 3: And I think that Everybody underestimated the Knicks, and I
[26:48] Speaker 3: kept saying, Knicks, Nuggets, Knicks, Wolves.
[26:51] Speaker 1: So the game plan is to hope they miss shots? No.
[26:54] Speaker 1: It's live by the three, die by the three. A
[26:57] Speaker 1: lot of those open looks, too. Right here?
[26:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of open looks. I thought they were breaking,
[27:03] Speaker 2: but got to capitalize on those misses, get this win.
[27:06] Speaker 1: Percentages. It's a game of percentages. You're going one-on-one.
[27:10] Speaker 3: You got to be able to create a shot other
[27:12] Speaker 3: than the three, too. That'd be my thing with Jason Taylor.
[27:15] Speaker 3: It'd just be like, you'd be doing moves just to
[27:18] Speaker 3: get a contested three instead of really getting somewhere. So
[27:23] Speaker 3: that'd be my thing. But they team, so they got
[27:26] Speaker 3: so many players. I still think they the best team.
[27:29] Speaker 3: But that right there yesterday, that annoyed me.
[27:32] Speaker 1: I ain't like that. Yeah, we talked about it in
[27:34] Speaker 1: the Magic series, too.
[27:35] Speaker 2: Obviously, the Magic weren't as successful in stopping the Celtics,
[27:37] Speaker 2: but they came up with a game plan to try
[27:38] Speaker 2: and limit their three-point attempt. So the Celtics have shown
[27:41] Speaker 2: that they can play and win different ways, but obviously
[27:44] Speaker 2: set the record for most three-pointers made in a season.
[27:47] Speaker 1: They weren't going to really switch up who they are. No,
[27:51] Speaker 1: you can't.
[27:51] Speaker 6: You had success doing it, so why would you? We
[27:54] Speaker 6: had one bad game where we gave up because we
[27:56] Speaker 6: shot ourselves out. All right, well, let's come back tomorrow
[27:59] Speaker 6: and do it again. It's not going to be the
[28:02] Speaker 6: same results. We talk adjustments in real time. We talk coaching, strategies, right, offense.
[28:08] Speaker 6: We praise offense so much. Joe Mizzou is just letting
[28:11] Speaker 6: them dudes just run around and shoot threes, and they have.
[28:14] Speaker 6: We liked it because they go in, and we're like, yo,
[28:17] Speaker 6: Boston's good. when they're making threes. When they're missing threes,
[28:22] Speaker 6: they look bad. They look like they don't have no offense,
[28:25] Speaker 6: no leader, no nothing.
[28:27] Speaker 3: But when you've been handed down somebody else's creation, it
[28:31] Speaker 3: stops it.
[28:31] Speaker 10: It's a limitation of that. So you can only work
[28:34] Speaker 10: with what you got. You got to figure it out
[28:36] Speaker 10: from there.
[28:36] Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to figure it out if
[28:38] Speaker 3: you got to make adjustments.
[28:39] Speaker 11: But that got them a championship, though. Talent got them
[28:42] Speaker 11: a championship. But what adjustments they need to make, though?
[28:46] Speaker 11: I mean, it's working. We just had a bad game.
[28:49] Speaker 11: It's probably harder than the first one.
[28:51] Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[28:52] Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me you missed a playoff high,
[28:56] Speaker 3: historic high, 45, and you're telling me you don't need
[28:59] Speaker 3: to make an adjustment?
[29:02] Speaker 1: I'm going to go shoot some twos, okay. I'm asking
[29:04] Speaker 1: the question.
[29:05] Speaker 3: If you just broke the historic record, all-time playoff missed threes,
[29:09] Speaker 3: you don't need to make an adjustment?
[29:10] Speaker 1: You want to go break that record?
[29:12] Speaker 2: But, Sean, do you look at it like that, or
[29:13] Speaker 2: do you say, if we make two more threes, we
[29:16] Speaker 2: win this game by three points?
[29:17] Speaker 1: We shot ourselves out. Say it again, if you make
[29:19] Speaker 1: two more threes. We shot ourselves out. We got comfortable.
[29:22] Speaker 1: They got comfortable. Like Swaggy said, they got comfortable. That's
[29:24] Speaker 1: like saying if we made three more twos. Yeah, that's fair.
[29:28] Speaker 1: I mean, I do agree. Jason Tatum does need to
[29:29] Speaker 1: go to the rim and do that.
[29:31] Speaker 2: We're a team that shot 37% for the season. We
[29:33] Speaker 2: shoot 25 in this game.
[29:35] Speaker 3: Gil said this. They make they free throws.
[29:39] Speaker 1: We ain't even. really having a conversation. That's fair.
[29:42] Speaker 2: Nick, 17 for 31 from the free throw line. Pay
[29:44] Speaker 2: attention to the metrics.
[29:47] Speaker 3: We ain't having no conversation about what the fuck y'all
[29:49] Speaker 3: talking about because that's right there.
[29:52] Speaker 1: They make free throws. Boom. One game? How many losses
[29:56] Speaker 1: they had this year? Don't we always talk about one
[29:58] Speaker 1: game after the first game? 21. They were 61-21 regular season.
[30:03] Speaker 1: And they cruised through the whole season. Yeah.
[30:04] Speaker 3: Y'all ain't having no debate, man. Y'all just saying one
[30:09] Speaker 3: thing and shaking your head. I mean, it's not a debate.
[30:11] Speaker 3: I mean, that's just how we feel. I got a
[30:13] Speaker 3: debate for you. They need everybody. They need everybody. He
[30:18] Speaker 3: just left the game with an illness.
[30:20] Speaker 1: Diarrhea. Like I said, thought the game was over. Diarrhea.
[30:23] Speaker 1: Thought the game was over. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. That's when they
[30:27] Speaker 1: was up 20, right? Game ain't ever over. Let me
[30:31] Speaker 1: take my shoes off.
[30:32] Speaker 2: Game ain't never over. We fighting for something. So we
[30:35] Speaker 2: asked the chat, what was the main story in game one?
[30:37] Speaker 2: We gave them Knicks comeback or Celtics choke job. 53%
[30:40] Speaker 2: said the Knicks comeback. So speaking of the Knicks, Knicks
[30:42] Speaker 2: captain Jalen Brunson was asked about putting the team on
[30:44] Speaker 2: his back after the game and was quick to dismiss
[30:47] Speaker 2: that idea.
[30:48] Speaker 1: Exactly. It's not about.
[30:49] Speaker 12: putting the team in my back. It's just, I have
[30:53] Speaker 12: confidence in them. They have confidence in me. And we're
[30:55] Speaker 12: going to go out there. We're going to compete. We're
[30:57] Speaker 12: going to find the best way to attack each possession.
[31:00] Speaker 12: And so, yeah, it may look like I get the credit,
[31:04] Speaker 12: but it's a credit to them. It's not just me.
[31:08] Speaker 2: So you look at Brunson, obviously undersized guard, but what
[31:11] Speaker 2: makes Brunson the ideal leader for this Knicks squad?
[31:16] Speaker 1: Tough. Mentally tough.
[31:19] Speaker 4: Like, it's, I mean, he's one of those, I mean,
[31:24] Speaker 4: it's like he was born in New York. I don't know,
[31:26] Speaker 4: you know, if he's from New York, if he was
[31:28] Speaker 4: born in New York, but he has that New York
[31:30] Speaker 4: spirit where, you know, mentally you can't break him, physically
[31:34] Speaker 4: you can't break him, you can't bully him.
[31:36] Speaker 1: And, you know, he's a hooper's hooper, right? No matter
[31:40] Speaker 1: what the.
[31:40] Speaker 4: Score is, he's out there going hard. And he has
[31:45] Speaker 4: a knack for putting that ball in the basket.
[31:47] Speaker 1: So, I mean.
[31:49] Speaker 3: He's really looking for something, too. He's really looking for something.
[31:53] Speaker 3: Pops on the coaching staff, that help.
[31:55] Speaker 1: It doesn't.
[31:56] Speaker 3: Even at that. It does give him even more confidence.
[32:00] Speaker 3: That makes you really look up. Pops on the staff.
[32:02] Speaker 1: I'm the worst one you want to play with, right?
[32:05] Speaker 1: Daddy the coach, like, ah, damn. That help a little bit.
[32:08] Speaker 1: So Brunson from New Jersey. Oh, man. Much tougher. Much tougher? No,
[32:14] Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm from Jersey as well. Okay. Underappreciated state.
[32:18] Speaker 1: The guard state. Is Brunson making the case for.
[32:24] Speaker 4: Is Brunson going to be the face of the league?
[32:29] Speaker 1: No. If he wins in New York. There's only one
[32:30] Speaker 1: face of the league. I'm just saying could.
[32:32] Speaker 7: I don't believe because of size, but could he be?
[32:37] Speaker 1: No. Did you have your kids ask for a Brunson
[32:43] Speaker 1: jersey or shoes? Okay. Okay.
[32:45] Speaker 4: Yep, I'm going to tell the truth. My kids have
[32:47] Speaker 4: asked for a Bronson. If you watch playback, you see...
[32:50] Speaker 4: Your basketball play.
[32:52] Speaker 1: Don't have nothing to do with you to face. Is Bronson.
[32:55] Speaker 4: That's not the best player in the league in the
[32:58] Speaker 4: face of the league is two different people.
[33:00] Speaker 7: Could Bronson ever trump Luka?
[33:04] Speaker 1: Huh?
[33:04] Speaker 7: Can Bronson ever trump Luka like they used to try
[33:06] Speaker 7: to say James Harden and KD or James Harden and Russ?
[33:12] Speaker 1: If Bronson win it? If Bronson win it, can he
[33:14] Speaker 1: trump Luka? As a what? As a super talent? As
[33:21] Speaker 1: a guard. I mean, his position. You think he better now? No,
[33:26] Speaker 1: why better now? No, I'm just saying if he win,
[33:30] Speaker 1: if he win. In New York, that's... He got things
[33:33] Speaker 1: that Luka need, though. He do got things that Luka need.
[33:35] Speaker 1: I think the question is, could he be MVP? Can
[33:39] Speaker 1: he be MVP? Yeah. I don't know. That'd be hard.
[33:44] Speaker 3: I just need to know. That's my back of the question.
[33:46] Speaker 3: Go into why he's not better. Tell me why he's
[33:48] Speaker 3: not better.
[33:51] Speaker 1: I'm asking, too.
[33:52] Speaker 3: I mean, if you tell me to go in the
[33:54] Speaker 3: alley and pick somebody I go in the alley with,
[33:56] Speaker 3: I'm picking Brunson.
[33:57] Speaker 1: For sure. Over Luka. Yeah, for sure. But Luka can
[34:01] Speaker 1: get it, like... I don't know.
[34:04] Speaker 4: I'm going to chill.
[34:06] Speaker 1: Come on. Luka can get it. He's not here to chill. No,
[34:09] Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, it was a winner, Jordan. No,
[34:11] Speaker 1: for sure.
[34:11] Speaker 3: It's a really– that's the thing you see about Luka.
[34:14] Speaker 3: Luka kind of– he worry about other shit too much.
[34:16] Speaker 3: When Bronson just– every play is he locked in. So
[34:20] Speaker 3: that's going to end up– you're going to end up
[34:21] Speaker 3: winning like that.
[34:22] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You're going to end up winning like that.
[34:25] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[34:25] Speaker 3: I think if Luka get that, though, it ain't no
[34:28] Speaker 3: stopping Luka. He kind of– argue and do other shit
[34:31] Speaker 3: too much, but.
[34:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, to the rest. You got to get to the
[34:33] Speaker 1: finals first. We got there. You know what? We got there.
[34:37] Speaker 3: But sometimes you don't need to describe who the best.
[34:40] Speaker 3: You don't need to reach certain things. Like, you don't
[34:43] Speaker 3: need to... Like, Iverson, he ain't never win a chip,
[34:46] Speaker 3: but him winning that game one, he solidified himself.
[34:49] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I feel.
[34:52] Speaker 3: You kind of got to see what people's situation is
[34:55] Speaker 3: and then judge them off.
[34:56] Speaker 1: Each situation is different.
[34:58] Speaker 10: I do a different type of scouting report with niggas, right?
[35:01] Speaker 10: So my scouting report with Jalen Brunson is experience, pedigree,
[35:08] Speaker 10: great parenting. He is Jesus Shuttlesworth and his daddy is
[35:14] Speaker 10: Jake Shuttlesworth without the penitentiary.
[35:16] Speaker 1: Minus the prison experience. You know what I'm saying? Talking
[35:18] Speaker 1: about the push, the grit. The help.
[35:21] Speaker 10: When you got experience from AAU winning, go to college
[35:24] Speaker 10: and you win. go to motherfucking NBA, you got a
[35:28] Speaker 10: chance to win too. So you're showing pedigree throughout your
[35:32] Speaker 10: whole career that this is not a fluke.
[35:35] Speaker 1: This ain't no coincidence what I'm doing here.
[35:37] Speaker 10: And immediately answered the question as if I've been preparing
[35:40] Speaker 10: this way my whole life.
[35:42] Speaker 1: Media training and everything. It's not about me. We all
[35:45] Speaker 1: trust each other. That's basketball. High level podcaster as well.
[35:48] Speaker 1: Shout out to the roommate show. I love what he bringing.
[35:50] Speaker 1: New York needed it.
[35:52] Speaker 3: Finally, a real leader. That's the NBA. They need a
[35:56] Speaker 3: lot of leaders. They need a lot of leaders that
[35:59] Speaker 3: also can play. They need that for sure.
[36:03] Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brunson's Nova Nick teammate. Despite an off-shooting night,
[36:06] Speaker 2: Mikael Bridges came up big for the Knicks in overtime.
[36:09] Speaker 2: Two big steals, hit in the clutch corner three, played
[36:13] Speaker 2: 51 minutes in this game. There's been a lot of
[36:16] Speaker 2: criticism about the compensation it took to bring Bridges in
[36:18] Speaker 2: with the Knicks sending five first-round picks to the Nets
[36:22] Speaker 2: to acquire him. Has Bridges proven to be worth the
[36:24] Speaker 2: haul he was traded for?
[36:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
[36:31] Speaker 7: Ain't missed a game? Ain't missed a game, man. He
[36:36] Speaker 7: was making a lot of big plays. You know, he
[36:38] Speaker 7: had that Draymond-type game, like took over the game without
[36:42] Speaker 7: scoring type shit to me.
[36:44] Speaker 1: He was.
[36:46] Speaker 7: Getting loose balls. Him and Josh Hart, I want to say.
[36:50] Speaker 7: They had big rebounds when you needed it. Putbacks, got steals.
[36:56] Speaker 1: Yeah. And defense. Bridges. Yeah. He's available. Yeah. Like, somebody reliable.
[37:03] Speaker 1: You got somebody every night. Reliable every night. He had
[37:07] Speaker 1: that big steal. Didn't he have that big steal last night? Yeah.
[37:10] Speaker 1: Two big steals. Two big steals.
[37:11] Speaker 10: Starting to play defense. Championship time.
[37:15] Speaker 3: His celebration get on my nerves. I hate this celebration.
[37:20] Speaker 1: No, not Jalen Brunson. Not Jalen Brunson. McHale. Ah, what
[37:25] Speaker 1: would McHale be doing? He'd be doing a little head shit. Good.
[37:32] Speaker 1: Do you feel a Brit has been proven to be
[37:35] Speaker 1: worth the haul he was traded for? I was looking
[37:37] Speaker 1: at what he actually got traded for. How many first
[37:40] Speaker 1: round picks? Five. They haven't been.
[37:43] Speaker 4: They haven't came up yet, right?
[37:46] Speaker 1: Let me double check for you. Five first rounds. Five
[37:49] Speaker 1: of them?
[37:51] Speaker 7: Damn, that's a lot. I don't know about that. That's
[37:54] Speaker 7: some KD type move, man.
[37:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:58] Speaker 2: Unprotected first round pick of 2025. Unprotected first in 27, 29, 2031.
[38:01] Speaker 2: Unprotected for who?
[38:04] Speaker 1: What? For what team? The Knicks. The Knicks traded five
[38:08] Speaker 1: first round picks. Five.
[38:10] Speaker 4: Unprotected first in 25, 27, 29, 2031. Unprotected picks for
[38:16] Speaker 4: up in 2028. I'll wait to... Ask me this in 2031.
[38:19] Speaker 4: Then a top....
[38:22] Speaker 1: But two picks this year.
[38:23] Speaker 2: So top four protected, a 2025 first-round pick via the
[38:26] Speaker 2: Bucs as well. So they get the Knicks pick and
[38:27] Speaker 2: the Bucs pick this year. And then picks in 27, 29, 31,
[38:32] Speaker 2: and a pick swap in 28.
[38:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, let me know when it's over. Because they might
[38:35] Speaker 4: fuck around and get some legendary shit in there. And
[38:37] Speaker 4: then we're going to be like, yeah, nah, it wasn't
[38:39] Speaker 4: worth it.
[38:41] Speaker 1: But as it stands right now, it's not looking as.
[38:45] Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's bad, but... I mean, obviously, yeah.
[38:48] Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you got one that's playing and
[38:51] Speaker 4: the other one that's, you know, future. So you can't,
[38:54] Speaker 4: you know, just, you can't really see what, you know,
[38:57] Speaker 4: they traded for. So, you know, those are the things
[38:59] Speaker 4: that you got to wait later on and see if
[39:01] Speaker 4: it was worth it. But right now, yes, because he's playing.
[39:03] Speaker 4: He's putting up numbers. He's doing what it takes to win.
[39:07] Speaker 1: So, Mr.
[39:08] Speaker 2: Ben Swaggy, you both are very confident the Celtics will
[39:10] Speaker 2: make easy work out of the Knicks in Game 1
[39:13] Speaker 2: and in this series. So on behalf of Knicks fans everywhere,
[39:16] Speaker 2: mainly our resident Knicks fan, Steve.
[39:18] Speaker 1: He called me.
[39:19] Speaker 2: He said, would you guys like to apologize to Knicks
[39:22] Speaker 2: fans and change your series prediction?
[39:26] Speaker 1: We'll wait. No.
[39:28] Speaker 2: No, I mean, no, I'm not changing. but I am
[39:31] Speaker 2: going to give it up to Brunson, though. Knicks fans
[39:32] Speaker 2: have cautioned that this is your last opportunity. To change
[39:35] Speaker 2: your pick. If not, you got to stay on that
[39:37] Speaker 2: side for the duration of the series.
[39:38] Speaker 6: No, I know I said Tyrese Hollenberg was the best guard,
[39:40] Speaker 6: but I'm going to go back and say Jalen Bronson
[39:42] Speaker 6: is the best guard right now.
[39:43] Speaker 1: I'm sure Nick's going to appreciate it. After I see
[39:45] Speaker 1: what happened tonight. Every night is going to change. It's
[39:46] Speaker 1: going to flip-flop. Yeah, it just depends on what happens.
[39:49] Speaker 1: We got it.
[39:50] Speaker 7: I like to say Bridges did all right, you know.
[39:54] Speaker 7: Got to give it up for my corners. He's not
[39:58] Speaker 7: a corner.
[39:59] Speaker 1: Good corner. Great corner. Defense and hit threes in that corner. Absolutely. Absolutely.
[40:04] Speaker 1: You can't change what a corner nigga is. Yeah, you can't.
[40:07] Speaker 1: He's not Bronson. Bronson is the star. Elite corner? Elite corner, yeah. Available?
[40:14] Speaker 1: Available corner. I didn't know Bronson played 53 minutes. He
[40:17] Speaker 1: done changed it. It ain't no corner nigga. Look, he
[40:20] Speaker 1: said it ain't. Remember Quentin Ross? No. The Clippers started
[40:22] Speaker 1: two guards. Corner niggas don't get no love. Corner nigga
[40:37] Speaker 1: from the core. Sheffalosa. Corner niggas a nigga. No, he
[40:39] Speaker 1: play a lot of minutes. Sheffalosa played a lot of minutes.
[40:42] Speaker 1: Where was he at? Where was? No, no, no, no, no.
[40:46] Speaker 1: That's not a corner nigga. What's a corner nigga? A
[40:48] Speaker 1: corner nigga sits in the corner. What's his job? Go
[40:51] Speaker 1: to the corner, bro.
[40:52] Speaker 3: And you barely get to do that, though. A corner
[40:54] Speaker 3: nigga barely get to do corner nigga shit. No, that's
[40:56] Speaker 3: not a corner nigga.
[40:58] Speaker 1: Thank you. I was like, you done made a six-man
[41:01] Speaker 1: in the corner. You done made a six-man in the corner.
[41:04] Speaker 1: How you going to tell me where the corner is?
[41:06] Speaker 13: When Brunson at the top of the key, where.
[41:08] Speaker 1: Is everybody else? The niggas you talking about ain't allowed
[41:10] Speaker 1: on the corner. Them ain't the niggas allowed on the corner.
[41:12] Speaker 3: They got to have a certain amount to get on
[41:14] Speaker 3: the corner. 15 minutes or more is you now on
[41:19] Speaker 3: the corner.
[41:19] Speaker 1: That's the corner. A corner call catch? That's a corner.
[41:22] Speaker 1: A corner is a corner. That's not the story, fool.
[41:24] Speaker 1: That's a corner, man. A corner nigga that got to
[41:26] Speaker 1: get his ass in the corner. Sam, come in four minutes,
[41:28] Speaker 1: sit in the corner. You got the top of the key.
[41:29] Speaker 1: You got 35 minutes. You get to do whatever you want. Yeah,
[41:33] Speaker 1: I'm 35.
[41:33] Speaker 3: If you playing over 30, that's what I'm talking about.
[41:35] Speaker 3: It don't matter. You're in the corner, bro. You're not
[41:38] Speaker 3: out of 36 minutes.
[41:40] Speaker 1: Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Corner.
[41:43] Speaker 3: Corner.
[41:43] Speaker 1: Corner. Corner. Corner. You ain't get KCP shit up. You
[42:00] Speaker 1: ain't get to do it. KCP is the same. You, J.R. Smith,
[42:02] Speaker 1: it's KCP now. No, y'all not. If Nick don't got
[42:05] Speaker 1: a play running for him, he's in the corner. Thank you.
[42:07] Speaker 1: If the coach ain't saying zip, Nick, zip her up.
[42:10] Speaker 1: Zip her up. If it ain't playing for us, thank you.
[42:13] Speaker 1: How you going to tell us? Because if we not
[42:16] Speaker 1: get the play, where we at? Where are we at
[42:18] Speaker 1: if we're not getting a play? No, tell me. Don't
[42:22] Speaker 1: do that. Tell me where we at. Where are we
[42:25] Speaker 1: at if the play is not for us and we're
[42:26] Speaker 1: in the game? We're just trying to stay in as
[42:29] Speaker 1: long as we can. We're waiting for the swing-swing, right? Swing-swing.
[42:34] Speaker 1: We're in the corner, V. V, are we not in
[42:35] Speaker 1: the corner? I'm the ultimate corner nigga.
[42:39] Speaker 7: When is my time to shine when Kobe was out?
[42:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was good.
[42:43] Speaker 8: When he came back, get your ass in that corner.
[42:48] Speaker 1: When Kobe is gone, the corner nigga is still the
[42:50] Speaker 1: corner nigga.
[42:51] Speaker 4: The corner nigga is still the corner nigga.
[42:56] Speaker 13: It's only stars and corners. There's nothing else. You can't
[42:58] Speaker 13: put nothing else in the store. I can tell the
[43:04] Speaker 13: nigga to get to the corner. Anybody that get home,
[43:07] Speaker 13: go to the corner.
[43:07] Speaker 1: You got to tell him the truth, nigga.
[43:09] Speaker 3: You got to tell him the truth, nigga.
[43:11] Speaker 8: In the league quarter, he don't tell you what box
[43:13] Speaker 8: it is.
[43:13] Speaker 3: The league quarter niggas get to stay in the house.
[43:16] Speaker 1: The corner quarter niggas. If I'm a slave, if I'm
[43:18] Speaker 1: in the house, The corner nigga, like he said, he
[43:21] Speaker 1: got to actually sub in for Kobe.
[43:23] Speaker 3: That's the nigga in the trap that get to actually
[43:26] Speaker 3: take the calls tonight.
[43:27] Speaker 1: I get to... A hybrid corner. He got a town.
[43:30] Speaker 1: I get to step in. I'm running the show tonight.
[43:33] Speaker 1: It come through me. You do not... No, he's back tomorrow.
[43:37] Speaker 1: When he get back tomorrow, y'all do that.
[43:39] Speaker 4: As I said, they turned the corner nigga into a star.
[43:41] Speaker 1: No, you don't even know what a corner nigga is.
[43:42] Speaker 1: You can't be a star. You became a corner instead
[43:45] Speaker 1: of an avatar. If Kobe leaves. You couldn't take me
[43:48] Speaker 1: in the corner.
[43:48] Speaker 8: If Kobe's out and you're getting the ball, you're not
[43:52] Speaker 8: a corner dude.
[43:53] Speaker 1: A corner dude is a corner dude. Not at the moment.
[43:55] Speaker 1: No matter who's on the floor. It's in the corner then. Whatever.
[43:59] Speaker 1: If somebody else could tell you to go to the corner.
[44:01] Speaker 1: That's the star player. Thank you. So what I'm saying,
[44:04] Speaker 1: stars and corners. Yep. If a star player says you
[44:07] Speaker 1: get your ass in the corner, nigga, don't ask no questions.
[44:09] Speaker 1: Don't ask no questions. If Giannis has the ball and
[44:11] Speaker 1: Dane get in the corner. Dane ain't make no corner, nigga.
[44:14] Speaker 1: Dane ain't make no corner. Nah, everybody else got to
[44:16] Speaker 1: get in the corner, though. No, you just have to
[44:18] Speaker 1: start playing. Is he a temporary corner? Get your ass
[44:23] Speaker 1: in the corner, my nigga. Whoever else out there, Dot Rivers.
[44:26] Speaker 1: Get your ass in the corner, Dot.
[44:28] Speaker 8: They done turned everybody in the corner.
[44:31] Speaker 1: Get your ass in the corner, too, nigga. They become corners.
[44:35] Speaker 1: Everybody in the corner. Mellow was a corner nigga at
[44:40] Speaker 1: the time. Mellow who? Carmelo Anthony? Pax.
[44:41] Speaker 6: He found out exactly what a corner nigga feel like.
[44:45] Speaker 8: He knew exactly what a corner nigga feel like.
[44:48] Speaker 3: But he was really getting hit like a corner nigga.
[44:51] Speaker 1: For sure. But that's what I'm saying. No matter who
[44:53] Speaker 1: was in the game, he was going to get the place.
[44:55] Speaker 1: Who will? Jamal Crawford was never a corner nigga. Never.
[44:57] Speaker 1: They were elite corner niggas. They was never corner niggas. No.
[45:01] Speaker 1: They the Mount Westmore's. Did they sub in the game
[45:04] Speaker 1: where the Stars wasn't in the game? They subbed in
[45:05] Speaker 1: and got the ball right away. Did they sub in
[45:08] Speaker 1: when the Stars weren't in the game? Right. Yeah. That
[45:11] Speaker 1: means that just like Nick, when Kobe out, it's my show.
[45:15] Speaker 1: You're in the corner. That ain't a corner.
[45:17] Speaker 3: That's a fucking six-man or a second option. Hey, Jordan,
[45:20] Speaker 3: when the Stars subbed in, what happened?
[45:23] Speaker 1: Was it steal your show? Go back to the corner,
[45:26] Speaker 1: my nigga. Vanish to the corner. Back to the corner
[45:28] Speaker 1: you go.
[45:29] Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with that corner.
[45:34] Speaker 1: When you on the plane, you get treated like a
[45:36] Speaker 1: corner nigga. When you in the locker room, you get
[45:38] Speaker 1: treated like a corner nigga. Corner niggas always corner niggas.
[45:42] Speaker 1: Ain't no nothing. I'm gonna give a fuck who's on
[45:45] Speaker 1: the court.
[45:46] Speaker 8: Your ass is staying on the bench, and they're gonna
[45:48] Speaker 8: put your ass through three minutes.
[45:50] Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, son.
[45:51] Speaker 7: You're not gonna tell me what I felt in that corner.
[45:53] Speaker 1: He felt it one time and said, fuck the NBA.
[45:55] Speaker 3: All corner niggas know what it feel like.
[45:57] Speaker 1: All corner niggas know. You know what it feel like?
[45:59] Speaker 1: Every corner nigga know. I had felt the Memphis. I
[46:01] Speaker 1: had felt the Memphis, Gil, being a corner nigga. You
[46:04] Speaker 1: hated it, right? How many minutes did I play? Did
[46:06] Speaker 1: you hate it? How many minutes did I play? 13. Huh,
[46:09] Speaker 1: I wish. I wish I played 13 minutes.
[46:13] Speaker 8: Shit, I would have been part of the rotation for
[46:16] Speaker 8: fucking 13 minutes.
[46:16] Speaker 2: What are you talking about? So a question for you, Jordan.
[46:20] Speaker 2: How does one get treated like a corner on the plane?
[46:23] Speaker 1: You feel it. Everywhere. You got to wait to get on.
[46:25] Speaker 1: You got to wait to get your food. All that shit.
[46:28] Speaker 3: Corner niggas is corner niggas. You get treated. Are you
[46:31] Speaker 3: getting the same meal as the stars or are you
[46:32] Speaker 3: getting the result?
[46:33] Speaker 1: Everything run out. Then you get the second shit.
[46:36] Speaker 3: And you're looking around and everybody eating but you. We
[46:39] Speaker 3: ain't got that.
[46:39] Speaker 1: We ran out of that. You got to sit with
[46:41] Speaker 1: the video guys. You don't get to take them. Nah, nah, nah.
[46:44] Speaker 1: Corner niggas. Nah, nah. Come in early. Bring your ass
[46:48] Speaker 1: in early. Earlier.
[46:49] Speaker 3: Gotta play three on three versus the coaches. Extra cardio.
[46:52] Speaker 3: Three on three first. You don't get the dinner text.
[46:55] Speaker 3: You don't get none of the text messages. No dinner text.
[46:58] Speaker 1: No dinner. The work look at you crazy. Work looking
[47:01] Speaker 1: at you crazy like, damn. It's levels, man. They feel cold.
[47:07] Speaker 1: They don't level. But they jump down. They jump down. Yeah,
[47:10] Speaker 1: they jump down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel it
[47:14] Speaker 1: with the work.
[47:14] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[47:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel it where it is. They try to
[47:16] Speaker 1: judge you. Damn, pre-judged? Yeah, they'd be like, how many
[47:19] Speaker 1: minutes you play tonight?
[47:20] Speaker 8: So, what is Cartier Martin? Why you not sweating?
[47:24] Speaker 3: Why you not sweating tonight?
[47:28] Speaker 1: Didn't you play? Huh? So, you on the same level
[47:32] Speaker 1: as him? Wait, who? Yes, there's corners on different levels.
[47:35] Speaker 1: A player when everybody was gone. There's different levels. Cartier Martin. Cartier.
[47:41] Speaker 4: Cartier.
[47:41] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he's a corner. Oh, yeah, he's a corner. Man,
[47:45] Speaker 1: and he can hoop. Yeah, corner. No starters. Everybody gone.
[47:48] Speaker 1: You still getting four minutes. Nah, he can hoop. Well,
[47:51] Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, he hooped in the corner. Five minutes.
[47:55] Speaker 1: It's a corner. It's levels to the corner, man. No,
[47:57] Speaker 1: not it's levels to the corner. It is. I always
[47:59] Speaker 1: say that. I'm on a Mount Rushmore. You know, I'm
[48:02] Speaker 1: on a president. I'm like, you know.
[48:05] Speaker 3: You got fame from being a corner. There's other corner
[48:07] Speaker 3: niggas that entice him in his corner. So do you
[48:10] Speaker 3: feel like you're a.
[48:11] Speaker 1: You know, I'm on the board, you know. I know
[48:14] Speaker 1: what it feels like. You giving six men quarters? Jason
[48:20] Speaker 1: Terry's a corner. What is he doing? He get to play.
[48:23] Speaker 1: I know.
[48:23] Speaker 3: We ain't talking about what he get to do. We
[48:26] Speaker 3: talking about where the fuck does he go when the
[48:28] Speaker 3: nigga Dirk got the ball.
[48:30] Speaker 13: Where the fuck do you go?
[48:33] Speaker 1: Dirk got the ball. Get to your fucking spot.
[48:37] Speaker 8: You better not say I'm right over there.
[48:41] Speaker 1: Don't go. Sit over here. We high five. We say yes, sir.
[48:45] Speaker 8: You don't fucking agree with me over there. Where else
[48:47] Speaker 8: you going? Like, if we're going to talk about how
[48:49] Speaker 8: you played in your system.
[48:51] Speaker 3: You're sitting in the corner.
[48:54] Speaker 1: Right? You're talking about, like, Derrick Fisher? Ginobili. Ginobili.
[48:58] Speaker 3: When I got the ball, Tim Duncan, where are you
[49:01] Speaker 3: supposed to be?
[49:02] Speaker 1: You don't get no play for you. You're supposed to
[49:08] Speaker 1: be open. Just swing, swing, and if it gets to you,
[49:10] Speaker 1: have an open shot. You got to do both. You
[49:12] Speaker 1: got to be.
[49:12] Speaker 7: There's stars, corners, and liquor stores. The liquor stores is like...
[49:14] Speaker 7: Which one is the liquor stores? The Patrick Beverly's and stuff.
[49:17] Speaker 7: They get sent to you. They get dirty, yeah.
[49:19] Speaker 1: They rob you.
[49:19] Speaker 4: They go in the robber's car.
[49:21] Speaker 1: They go in the robber's car. So basically... I never know, man. Ah,
[49:24] Speaker 1: go get it. So if Kobe is the star, where's
[49:28] Speaker 1: the console? Big's not really involved. That's... That's what they... Okay, okay. Murder, War, Peace. Murder, War, Peace.
[49:36] Speaker 1: Another world peace became when he was on the Lakers. Yes,
[49:39] Speaker 1: one game one for sure. Yeah, we'll see.
[49:41] Speaker 3: They become over Steve Lim liquor store niggas get too
[49:43] Speaker 3: many minutes. Yeah, look, they have a function. They have
[49:48] Speaker 3: a function. Yeah, they don't any corner. They don't stand
[49:52] Speaker 3: on any corner. Don't be out there like random out
[49:56] Speaker 3: here to get some liquor, bro. Y'all niggas just out
[49:59] Speaker 3: here standing around, waiting for some shit to happen.
[50:03] Speaker 1: I got Shane Bassett. Those are guys who got a corner, dude.
[50:08] Speaker 1: They ain't got no play ready for you, my child.
[50:11] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck who you got on you.
[50:13] Speaker 1: Look at those. Look at those got that shit. Look
[50:14] Speaker 1: at those got that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dry. It's dry. Like,
[50:16] Speaker 1: before Rudy Goldberg got the ball, he would be considered
[50:19] Speaker 1: a corner. I don't give a fuck who you got.
[50:27] Speaker 1: They got the dry shit on their mouth.
[50:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, they be hustling too hard.
[50:34] Speaker 1: They be breathing out their mouth.
[50:36] Speaker 3: They be breathing out their nose, nigga.
[50:40] Speaker 1: That stops all that, nigga.
[50:44] Speaker 2: These are the type of basketball discussions you can come
[50:46] Speaker 2: to expect on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. But let's
[50:50] Speaker 2: shift it over to the Celtics. So as for the
[50:53] Speaker 2: Celtics side of things, playoff record 45 mysteries, like I
[50:56] Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. 63-point attempts were also a playoff record. Here's
[50:59] Speaker 2: Joe Mazzulla when asked about the Celtics' shot selection in
[51:02] Speaker 2: the second half when 34 of the Celtics' 41 shot
[51:05] Speaker 2: attempts were threes.
[51:07] Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think for the most part, obviously,
[51:10] Speaker 14: over the course of the game, you always can find,
[51:11] Speaker 14: you know, five, ten shots that you want to be
[51:13] Speaker 14: better at. But, you know, I thought throughout the night,
[51:16] Speaker 14: for the most part, we fought for good looks, you know,
[51:19] Speaker 14: throughout the game. But, yeah, I mean, you can find
[51:20] Speaker 14: five to ten that you can be better at.
[51:23] Speaker 1: It's hard to look Joe Mazzulla in his eyes, I'm
[51:24] Speaker 1: going to be honest.
[51:26] Speaker 2: But do you agree with Joe Mazzulla saying the Celtics
[51:28] Speaker 2: fought for good looks against the Knicks?
[51:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? Like, damn, nigga.
[51:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with what he said about the 10 shots. Like, yeah,
[51:37] Speaker 6: you look back, maybe 10 threes we shouldn't have took.
[51:39] Speaker 1: For sure. Five or whatever that changed the game. So
[51:42] Speaker 1: that's it right there.
[51:43] Speaker 2: But do you feel like they fought for good looks
[51:44] Speaker 2: or was it too much settling for threes in this game?
[51:46] Speaker 1: At a certain point.
[51:47] Speaker 7: I mean, I didn't like a lot of white shots yesterday,
[51:50] Speaker 7: Derek White shots. He shot a lot of quick threes.
[51:55] Speaker 1: Like, I would love to have that feeling of not
[51:59] Speaker 1: worrying about nothing. When you catch it, just shoot that motherfucker.
[52:01] Speaker 1: But I feel like he rushed a lot of those
[52:03] Speaker 1: a little bit.
[52:04] Speaker 10: The confidence he's been giving them. He got that 40 ball.
[52:07] Speaker 10: He's been consistent with shooting that three. Now, like I said,
[52:10] Speaker 10: they're not running plays. That's why he's free to shoot
[52:13] Speaker 10: that shit when he feels it.
[52:15] Speaker 3: That's a question I have with my brothers. How good
[52:18] Speaker 3: is Derek White? You tell us how good you think
[52:20] Speaker 3: he is.
[52:21] Speaker 1: I think he has the perfect role. he got the
[52:25] Speaker 1: perfect role to get him he.
[52:27] Speaker 3: Get to do whatever but he's still like four or
[52:28] Speaker 3: five but he get to do whatever and he got
[52:32] Speaker 3: a gold medal good enough to do whatever and I'm
[52:36] Speaker 3: against the Derek White debate my brothers think he's great.
[52:41] Speaker 4: Of course you got talent they think he's great but
[52:48] Speaker 4: yeah Derek White you like him for his role right.
[52:52] Speaker 1: Yeah solid corner He's a corner guy? He's a superstar
[52:57] Speaker 1: low key. That ain't awful. You gotta be honest, man.
[53:02] Speaker 1: You gotta be honest.
[53:03] Speaker 3: If he ain't your homie, you gotta be honest. That's
[53:07] Speaker 3: what the NBA do. The NBA made him sweet just
[53:12] Speaker 3: like Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks sweet. The NBA made him sweet.
[53:16] Speaker 3: That's my thing. And we don't know it until we
[53:18] Speaker 3: say it. Motherfuckers don't see it until you listen to
[53:21] Speaker 3: somebody say, hey man, he's sweet.
[53:22] Speaker 1: Don't y'all see it? Y'all don't see that? It ain't
[53:27] Speaker 1: like that.
[53:28] Speaker 3: The Thompson twins will push up over your ass and
[53:30] Speaker 3: make you switch up your game and you thought you
[53:32] Speaker 3: was nice and you got to bring your shit out now.
[53:35] Speaker 1: I like that type of defense. Bring that shit out
[53:38] Speaker 1: you was working on in that cone.
[53:41] Speaker 3: I want to see that cone shit you was doing
[53:43] Speaker 3: on Instagram, bro.
[53:44] Speaker 1: Show us that pregame shit you be doing. Yeah. Give
[53:47] Speaker 1: me that. I don't know.
[53:49] Speaker 7: I got to give it to Derek White.
[53:51] Speaker 1: For that, I mean.
[53:53] Speaker 4: For that system and how they play, I mean, he
[53:55] Speaker 4: carved out a perfect role.
[53:57] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I mean, you're talking about someone
[54:00] Speaker 1: who has... He has the.
[54:03] Speaker 4: Same job as everybody else. He can take whatever shot
[54:07] Speaker 4: he wants. He gets to go out there and play free.
[54:10] Speaker 4: And for being the fourth, sometimes fifth option, I mean,
[54:15] Speaker 4: if Porzingis is playing, he's literally the fifth option, right?
[54:18] Speaker 4: So the fact that the fifth option on that team
[54:20] Speaker 4: can basically... If he decide he want to shoot 40
[54:23] Speaker 4: points worth of shots, nobody's going to look at him.
[54:26] Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hell of a role. That's a
[54:28] Speaker 1: hell of a role. Because you can.
[54:29] Speaker 4: Just take 40 shots, and no matter how you shot
[54:31] Speaker 4: the ball, no one's going to be judging you.
[54:34] Speaker 8: They got two other motherfuckers they got to worry about.
[54:37] Speaker 8: Before we get to, hey, man, hey, Darryl, you shot
[54:40] Speaker 8: bad today. Nobody gets to that point. Nobody's going to
[54:44] Speaker 8: look at your output and say, hey, man.
[54:46] Speaker 1: You lost us the game. Derek White, 6 for 18
[54:49] Speaker 1: in the game, 5 for 16, 3. And he ain't
[54:52] Speaker 1: do no podium. He went home. He shot the first
[54:54] Speaker 1: four shots. That's all. You want those three? 7 for 20.
[54:56] Speaker 1: 7 for 20 for Jalen Brown. 7 for 23 for
[54:58] Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. Derek White, six for 18.
[55:07] Speaker 3: So they all shot almost 20 shots apiece.
[55:10] Speaker 1: That nigga went home. All three of them. That's a
[55:13] Speaker 1: lot of possessions, dog. How many threes all together? 63.
[55:15] Speaker 1: Between the three. Nine for 31. Ten for 41. Ten
[55:17] Speaker 1: for 41 from three combined. Derek White, five for 16
[55:20] Speaker 1: from three. So he still hit five threes.
[55:34] Speaker 10: Tatum still hit four threes. Think about hitting four threes
[55:38] Speaker 10: and five threes in a game. If you're even five
[55:40] Speaker 10: for ten or four for eight.
[55:42] Speaker 1: That's 16 of them. Five for 16.
[55:44] Speaker 3: But we're talking about just the makes. Let's just talk
[55:46] Speaker 3: about just the makes. You hit four threes.
[55:48] Speaker 1: That's a lot. Hitting five threes in a game is
[55:51] Speaker 1: a lot. Then you go and you say you shot
[55:54] Speaker 1: 18 of them? Five for 16. At number six? At
[55:58] Speaker 1: number five? You in trouble, bro. I'm like, god damn.
[56:00] Speaker 1: 16 threes for Jackson. I'm trying to go to the hole.
[56:02] Speaker 1: You got to keep shooting it. Fuck it. That's good.
[56:14] Speaker 1: And then Jalen Brown. I mean, yeah. Think about that.
[56:18] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. He's going to go five. He's going to
[56:21] Speaker 1: go seven. He had 16 threes.
[56:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, we was taking fortune as a team. Five for
[56:27] Speaker 2: 16 from three. I think one for two from two.
[56:30] Speaker 1: He only shot two. 50% from two. Derrick White. That's
[56:33] Speaker 1: your fifth option.
[56:34] Speaker 3: He shot 16 threes. The 16 threes is cool. Y'all
[56:38] Speaker 3: not looking at the cold part. He didn't do no
[56:44] Speaker 3: interview after.
[56:46] Speaker 1: He got away with it. He got away with robbery.
[56:49] Speaker 8: The media wrote Jason Taylor failed.
[56:51] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[56:53] Speaker 8: And you got a fucker in there who's shooting the
[56:55] Speaker 8: same amount of shots playing bad.
[56:57] Speaker 1: Just took his shower, got his kids and girlfriend, walked
[57:01] Speaker 1: on home.
[57:01] Speaker 8: Looking at the news like, damn, that nigga played horrible.
[57:05] Speaker 1: That's my beef. That's cold. That's my beef. I would
[57:08] Speaker 1: love that. Buddy Hill just had to deal with the
[57:11] Speaker 1: same shit too. Shit.
[57:13] Speaker 4: Getting introduced to Steph Kirk, his teammate. Like, nobody cares
[57:17] Speaker 4: what White or Holliday do. No, that's what I said.
[57:20] Speaker 4: They confident.
[57:21] Speaker 8: No matter what they do, it falls on Jason Tatum
[57:24] Speaker 8: and Brown.
[57:25] Speaker 6: But they're the stars, though. They confidence got to be
[57:28] Speaker 6: crazy high. Like, you walk in every night just, yo,
[57:31] Speaker 6: I can get 20 of them up.
[57:32] Speaker 3: Man, Garrett White literally smoked cigarettes right after the game.
[57:38] Speaker 1: Nah, he here, y'all. He here, y'all. He would have
[57:42] Speaker 1: never cut his hair if he didn't hit him. He's
[57:44] Speaker 1: like this.
[57:45] Speaker 3: Wait till the next game, though.
[57:50] Speaker 1: Wait till the next game. Y'all thought that was some shit.
[57:53] Speaker 1: I missed them. I was missing. Wait till I start
[57:55] Speaker 1: hitting this shit. Gil has left the arena in disgust.
[57:59] Speaker 1: Derek White, 16-3.
[58:00] Speaker 2: But Jason Tatum was asked if the physicality of the
[58:03] Speaker 2: game caused him to avoid driving at times during the game.
[58:06] Speaker 1: Here's what he said. I'm used to playoffs, like, you know,
[58:11] Speaker 1: we probably should just play without the refs. Like, we,
[58:14] Speaker 1: it's how physical it is.
[58:15] Speaker 7: So, you know, that don't really cross my mind at all.
[58:21] Speaker 2: Celtics never trailed in a series en route to their
[58:24] Speaker 2: title last season. Jalen Brown was asked to reflect on
[58:27] Speaker 2: that and on how the series changed after the way
[58:29] Speaker 2: they lost game one.
[58:31] Speaker 15: Obviously, we had a historic night of, like, missed three-pointers,
[58:37] Speaker 15: et cetera. We'll take a look and kind of see
[58:38] Speaker 15: what the energy was But in reality, you almost got
[58:43] Speaker 15: to have a short-term memory, throw it away, get ready
[58:45] Speaker 15: for game two. We don't have time to let stuff
[58:48] Speaker 15: carry over. So, you know, we make adjustments when we
[58:51] Speaker 15: come ready to play on our home floor.
[58:55] Speaker 1: So do you believe the momentum of this game will
[58:57] Speaker 1: carry over to game two? Yeah, what does he mean
[59:03] Speaker 1: by we shouldn't just play with refs? He was getting fouled, bro. Huh?
[59:07] Speaker 1: He was getting fouled. When was he getting fouled? He
[59:09] Speaker 1: shot 15 threes. Still went to the hole a couple times.
[59:13] Speaker 1: Not enough to get no fouls. Wait, hold on.
[59:15] Speaker 6: So that's why you don't go to the basket for
[59:17] Speaker 6: that last one? Because don't you want to get fouled
[59:21] Speaker 6: and go to the free throw?
[59:22] Speaker 1: Seven free throw attempts in the game. You're afraid they're
[59:25] Speaker 1: not going to call it. It's a turnover. Tatum also
[59:28] Speaker 1: had five turnovers in this game. He's afraid of turning
[59:31] Speaker 1: the ball over. Better to shoot a three. Nah. Sibyl
[59:35] Speaker 1: yourself out. You learn, though.
[59:38] Speaker 7: Y'all act like Jason Tatum is 35 years old or something.
[59:44] Speaker 1: What, 27, 26? Guess where he play at. It don't matter.
[59:47] Speaker 1: He won a championship. It don't matter. one game, bro.
[59:53] Speaker 7: He didn't average 30-something this whole season. People was quiet,
[59:56] Speaker 7: but the first time he had a bad game, everybody, oh,
[1:00:00] Speaker 7: you don't want to go to the hole. I'll talk
[1:00:02] Speaker 7: to him. I'll talk about him. They just whipped Orlando ass.
[1:00:05] Speaker 7: He was averaging 35.
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: 37, 38. Guess what they did? They won. They won, right?
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: Then this happened. Then they won, right?
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: What are you just saying? You keep saying you just
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: saying it. I don't hear no.
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: Praise for Jason Tatum. Why? He just lost the game.
[1:00:22] Speaker 7: Don't wait for him to fail to say some shit.
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: That's the only thing I don't like about it.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: Well, that's the only time we get to say shit.
[1:00:27] Speaker 7: It's quiet when it's 4-1 this week. The next Apollo ass,
[1:00:33] Speaker 7: he busting their ass, but it's quiet.
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: New York come to town. You lose, and then we
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: say shit. Right. So guess what you got to do?
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: You got to not lose. It sounds like Bron hate, huh? Yeah,
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: it sounds like Bron.
[1:00:49] Speaker 4: Well, Gil did point out that with the Bron no
[1:00:52] Speaker 4: longer in the playoffs, they need to shift the hate
[1:00:54] Speaker 4: somewhere else.
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: Don't go there, man. It seems like it's moving over
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: to being the home two there.
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: Don't bring that shadow over there to Jason Tatum like that, man.
[1:01:02] Speaker 1: He didn't ask for that. People thrive off negativity. Mm-hmm.
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: You ain't got to ask for it. They're going to
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: give it to him.
[1:01:10] Speaker 4: You did issue him a challenge earlier in the season. Yeah.
[1:01:16] Speaker 4: I mean, Nick is right. I mean, shit, he averaged
[1:01:18] Speaker 4: 30 in the first round.
[1:01:20] Speaker 6: You know, but he is the easiest person to pick on,
[1:01:22] Speaker 6: the easiest superstar to pick on.
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: So they're always going to do that no matter if
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: they have a good game or a bad game.
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: I think with Tatum, they kind of gave him praise
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: since he's been in the league. So now people are
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: looking to hate on him because he's been getting praised
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: so early.
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: So they'd be looking to hate on him. But it
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: is a little, you got to get to the cup.
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: That's it. That's all we ask.
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: He seemed to send a message in that first round
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: series that, you know, with the bone bruising his wrist,
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: still averaging 30 a game, three straight games over 35.
[1:01:47] Speaker 3: It's weird what people call hate when I guess we
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: all got to praise you good or bad.
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: There's no criticism. No criticism, right?
[1:01:57] Speaker 10: If you have a bad game, we can't say nothing
[1:02:00] Speaker 10: because we're hating. If you have a good game, we.
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: Don't say nothing. Oh, we don't want to give them credit. No,
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: that's what hating is.
[1:02:10] Speaker 4: If they play bad and you bash them and then
[1:02:13] Speaker 4: they play good and you pretend it didn't happen. That's
[1:02:17] Speaker 4: what hating is. That's actually how it works. Like, if
[1:02:21] Speaker 4: they play good and you say something good about it,
[1:02:24] Speaker 4: and then if they play bad and you say something
[1:02:25] Speaker 4: bad about it, then you're a neutral party.
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: I thought, so, you play good. That's how it works.
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: You play good and you don't say nothing. Yeah, I
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: ain't see that, right?
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: Don't say nothing. You play bad, I say something. Play good,
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: I don't say shit. Play bad, I got something to say.
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: That's hatin'..
[1:02:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, why don't you just play good all
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: the time? I mean, that's impossible, right? So then it's
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: impossible for me not to hate on you. That's what
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: makes hating so easy.
[1:03:02] Speaker 3: My body is flawless, my niggas. It's real simple fucking math.
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: What options do we fucking have? Don't say nothing when
[1:03:11] Speaker 3: a nigga play good.
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody perfect. No, but Jason Tatum is
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: playing good, though. So it's like, He just played bad
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: last night.
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: We criticizing him right now.
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: Y'all talking about it's just one game. When he just
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: had a great series. Yeah, but I don't see nobody
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: say anything good about Jason. You ain't reading in the
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: right places. I don't see anybody say anything. I'm reading.
[1:03:34] Speaker 3: The people in Boston love him. They talk good about
[1:03:37] Speaker 3: him every day. Go to the Boston threads. I go
[1:03:39] Speaker 3: to everybody.
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: Yeah. Not a desirable location. What we talking about, man?
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: So sad. We'll skip over it. Shout out to Boston.
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: All right. I'll take that one too. All right, you're
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: going to get it to me. I'll take it anyway.
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: God damn it. I said it in my head. Kylo
[1:03:57] Speaker 1: has refrained from giving. Hold on. Kylo, not on time.
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: Can we do it one more time, please? Oh, good, man.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: Get the timing correct. There's a lot going on in
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: the arena right now. Two on one. Two in the
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: body bag. Wait, hold on. Two in the body bag.
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: Two in the body bag. Wait, hold on. Hold on.
[1:04:14] Speaker 6: So if somebody has a bad game, you say something bad,
[1:04:17] Speaker 6: but if they have a good game, you won't say anything.
[1:04:19] Speaker 7: He said just play good all the time.
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: I don't have to say nothing. That's the solution. Isn't
[1:04:24] Speaker 1: that the solution? Who in the NBA has ever played
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: good all the time? Come on, Joe. Stop laughing. It
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: ain't funny. If you play good all the time, nobody
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: can say nothing bad about you. But who's done that?
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: Who hasn't had anything bad to say about you? Don't
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: ask that question. Which star hasn't been criticized? What the
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: fuck are we talking about then?
[1:04:44] Speaker 7: I'm saying why we don't get on their praise too
[1:04:47] Speaker 7: when they don't even play good?
[1:04:48] Speaker 4: We do.
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: But if they play good all the time and you
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: don't give them praise, isn't that hating in itself as well?
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: Isn't that just as bad?
[1:04:54] Speaker 10: I was just a fan of these niggas. I was
[1:04:56] Speaker 10: just praising them because they just won. So you're not
[1:04:57] Speaker 10: talking to me.
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: I'm just asking you a question. Okay, I'm just making sure.
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: You were a Celtics fan. So I'm not a part
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: of the hate.
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: Made the decision to go to the... I'm not a
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: part of that. But I see the white on the walls.
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: When you lose, you play bad, nigga. You want to
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: be the face of the NBA?
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: Come on, stop. Stop.
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: Penalty of leadership. So when he plays good, he don't
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: expect nothing. Isn't it an expectation for me to be great?
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: I'm not patting myself on the back when I work
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: hard to do this shit. This ain't nothing new when
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: I make these shots. I make them every fucking day.
[1:05:33] Speaker 3: I shoot it every fucking day. I should make it.
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: I hold myself accountable.
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: I do have something to say, but I don't know.
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: Well, this is Gil Serena presenting my $ 100.
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: You do cut the check, so please. Take it, man.
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: What was that? Here we go. Don't look at me.
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: Because y'all both was anti-Tatum, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. I was pro-J. Pro-J.
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown.
[1:06:12] Speaker 4: Now, okay, so now I got to ask you, have
[1:06:15] Speaker 4: you ever criticized Jalen Brown for playing not good?
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, losing his left hand. When? You know he didn't
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: play not good yesterday. When he wasn't using his left hand.
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: He didn't. He was talking about Tatum the whole time.
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: I'm just asking, anybody in the chat, have he ever
[1:06:33] Speaker 4: said anything, criticized Jalen Brown?
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: I never criticized Jason Tatum either. So what are we
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: talking about? All right, what's up, Joe? Come on, man.
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: We stuck in midair.
[1:06:49] Speaker 4: There we go. Doing my thing. You guys have your moment. No,
[1:06:53] Speaker 4: I was just wondering. I was just wondering. Because if
[1:06:56] Speaker 4: he doesn't know the difference, how Tatum, because he don't
[1:07:00] Speaker 4: like Tatum for some reason, when Tatum plays good, he
[1:07:02] Speaker 4: don't do nothing. Anybody plays bad, he says something. When
[1:07:06] Speaker 4: Jason Tatum, when Brown plays good, he praises him. When
[1:07:09] Speaker 4: he plays bad, he doesn't see nothing.
[1:07:11] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:07:12] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, now that's how it's criticizing versus just
[1:07:15] Speaker 4: hating something.
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: That's the definition of it.
[1:07:18] Speaker 4: When you got to go out your way to pretend
[1:07:19] Speaker 4: you didn't see it or go out your way to
[1:07:21] Speaker 4: point out little things that make it seem like the
[1:07:24] Speaker 4: player's playing bad worse than they do. That's what the
[1:07:27] Speaker 4: definition of being hated or hating someone.
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what you do. I'm just saying
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: just for.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: But does that come into territory for Tatum, being the
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: face of the Celtics, but Chelsea face of the league,
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: being the number one option, as we've had arguments about
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: here on this couch?
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: I mean, as a basketball player, man, I think we
[1:07:44] Speaker 4: want to be judged for what we're doing. We don't
[1:07:46] Speaker 4: care about you criticizing our game. But if I'm playing good,
[1:07:50] Speaker 4: don't pretend you didn't see it, and then you're waiting
[1:07:53] Speaker 4: for me to play bad.
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: That's some bullshit. I can't respect what you're saying.
[1:07:57] Speaker 4: I got 20 straight games of 40 and you ain't
[1:08:00] Speaker 4: say shit.
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: Motherfucker have 10 points.
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: This is why he can't be the face of the league.
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: Motherfucker only had 10 points. They lost by 40.
[1:08:07] Speaker 8: Nah, nah. God damn. You can't do that, dog. Here's
[1:08:12] Speaker 8: a perfect example. Here's a perfect example of what I'm
[1:08:16] Speaker 8: talking about. Floyd Mayweather.
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:08:22] Speaker 3: You want me to go ahead and do the research
[1:08:24] Speaker 3: for that?
[1:08:25] Speaker 10: Every fucking match, everybody wanted him to lose. Guess what
[1:08:30] Speaker 10: he never fucking did? It's hard to criticize Floyd Mayweather.
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: He doesn't play a team sport. It doesn't matter.
[1:08:37] Speaker 10: He never gave his critics an opportunity.
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: He never gave his critics an opportunity. I think things,
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: especially in basketball, things is already... They put the story
[1:08:51] Speaker 3: on one thing already. They already put... Jason Taylor better
[1:08:55] Speaker 3: than Jalen Brown. So then, you know what I'm saying?
[1:08:58] Speaker 3: you the expectations is different so it's like why y'all
[1:09:04] Speaker 3: not just telling what's going on like Jalen Brown may.
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: Be just as good as Jason Taylor.
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: They never really said that so that always made the
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: hooper the eye that's watching it mad because it's like
[1:09:14] Speaker 3: hold up they both really doing the same thing out
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: here And I think that's where the criticizing comes from,
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: from Jason Tatum, because it's like, y'all crowned him as
[1:09:23] Speaker 3: soon as he got in the league. Now, he done
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: did everything that made him a superstar still.
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:09:29] Speaker 3: Even winning this chip, how he had the, you know,
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: that's what was part of the USA hate. It was
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: because they started hating on him a little bit.
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: And that's just where it's making Jason Tatum kind of
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: fight through the storyline of what they created for him early.
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: You know, and then Jalen Brown, on the other hand,
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: it's like you see how good he is, but he
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: never getting the love.
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: So then you just want, so when he, even.
[1:09:52] Speaker 3: The way he got the MVP, you could tell they
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: was trying to get that shit to Jason Tatum still.
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He had to, you know,
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: it had to go his way so much.
[1:10:00] Speaker 3: So I think that's what be making, you know, the
[1:10:03] Speaker 3: criticism on Jason Tatum come so hard because it's like
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: he never got it from the start.
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: And there's so many people that had to fight for
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: something and didn't earn it. You know what I'm saying?
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: So it'd be that. Talk your shit.
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be that a little bit, but at the
[1:10:15] Speaker 3: same time, Jason Tatum is doing everything for him to
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: be who he is.
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: I don't want that to be misconstrued.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: Wait, he didn't have to fight?
[1:10:24] Speaker 7: Wait, wait, so how he did everything he's supposed to do,
[1:10:28] Speaker 7: but not get the praise for it?
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: No, he said he got praise. He do get his praise.
[1:10:33] Speaker 3: He just get it before he do the shit a
[1:10:35] Speaker 3: little bit, and then other people got to do shit
[1:10:38] Speaker 3: and then get their praise.
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: He didn't get criticism early.
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't get criticism early. Now he's getting it
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: and it's uncomfortable. Because I never got it. Well, I mean,
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: it wasn't his team though early.
[1:10:48] Speaker 1: It don't matter. You're going to get criticized.
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: Anytime you run up the ranks of being a superstar,
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: criticism is waiting.
[1:10:54] Speaker 2: But didn't they have it when they were telling him
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: to break the team up and this team can't get
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: it done and they.
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: Keep making all these problems. But when he came, he
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: wasn't the guy. He had to live in it. They
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: were still young then. We still ain't criticized them yet. Hayward, right?
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: He still hadn't even started. It was Kyrie. Didn't he?
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: Kyrie Hayward. Was he in the Isaiah?
[1:11:12] Speaker 3: You was knowing that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum was
[1:11:15] Speaker 3: the future, though.
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:11:17] Speaker 16: You was knowing they were the future. That year, yeah,
[1:11:19] Speaker 16: but I didn't really. I still feel like they had
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[1:13:03] Speaker 2: Let's keep this thing moving to the Western Conference.
[1:13:06] Speaker 1: You walking the house like, the same damn shoes, man.
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: All right, damn. All right. What it is? I ain't
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: doing it. Put it real sparse. Let's keep it moving.
[1:13:16] Speaker 4: Let me take this ass, Brandon.
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: Before we move on to the next conversation, producers wanted
[1:13:21] Speaker 2: to let you know, Shad, that we asked the chat,
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: is it obvious? We put that poll up four minutes ago. 71%
[1:13:26] Speaker 2: of the chat said yes. But let's keep it moving.
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: Switch over to the Western Conference. Top two MVP candidates,
[1:13:33] Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic, Shea Gildas, Alexander. Is it obvious?
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: Let it go. Bro, he was just flowing. Why you
[1:13:39] Speaker 1: want to interrupt the flow? 71% said yes. I got
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: to see these.
[1:13:44] Speaker 2: Feel free to take out your phone, take out a computer,
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: go to YouTube, the Gildas Arena page. You can participate
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: in a poll. I'm like, I'm going on over there.
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying. Tell us what you just did.
[1:13:57] Speaker 1: Good bars. Right, you took all the good bars. You
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: did take all the good bars. Let's switch over our
[1:14:01] Speaker 1: focus to the Western Conference.
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: Top two MVP candidates, Nicole Yoko, Shea Gildas, Alexander, led
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: their teams into a playoff battle because OKC swept the
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: Grizzlies and the Nuggets went to seven games with the Clippers.
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: There was a huge rest differential entering this game. Thunder
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: were on eight days of rest while the Nuggets were
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: on just one day of rest after blowing out the
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: Clippers in game seven on their home floor this past Saturday.
[1:14:21] Speaker 2: Let's see how big of a difference it will make
[1:14:23] Speaker 2: in this game. Paulo, run those highlights, please, if you
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: don't mind. OKC was 35-6 at home during the regular season,
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: also won their first two home playoff games to make
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: it 37-6 overall entering game one. But the Nuggets were
[1:14:34] Speaker 2: responsible for one of those losses when the teams met
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: for back-to-back games in OKC back in early March. Thunder
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: led for the majority of the game. There are only
[1:14:41] Speaker 2: two lead changes all night. SGA, 33 points, 10 rebounds,
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: and 8 assists in just one turnover in 40 minutes.
[1:14:47] Speaker 2: Alex Caruso brought his championship experience to the Thunder. Bright
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: spot off the bench, dropping 20 points on 7 for
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: 12 shooting. Also had 6 assists and 5 steals. Chad
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: Holmgren scored 12 points on 5 for 11 shooting, and
[1:14:59] Speaker 2: Jalen Williams had 16 points on 5 for 20 shooting.
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: The Joker... was dominant in this game yet again. 42 points,
[1:15:06] Speaker 2: 22 rebounds, 6 assists. Only three other players have posted
[1:15:09] Speaker 2: a 40-25 playoff game.
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: Giannis, Shaq, and Wilt, who did it twice.
[1:15:14] Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon had 22 points and 14 rebounds, including the
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: biggest shot of the game, which we'll get to shortly,
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: while Jamal Murray added 21 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists.
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook did his thing off the bench, scoring 18
[1:15:25] Speaker 2: points on 7-for-13 shooting. Played the entire fourth quarter. mostly
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: in favor of Michael Porter Jr., who only had two
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: points on one of eight shooting. With over six and
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: a half minutes to go, Thunder led by 13 points.
[1:15:38] Speaker 2: The Nuggets chipped away at that lead, with Jokic putting
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: up 18 points in the fourth quarter.
[1:15:42] Speaker 1: Chet Holmgren. Let's watch this first, though.
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: Here's the three. Right in Harkinstein's grill. Cut the lead
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: to one. We were watching this game on playback. SGA
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: right here made the decision to get the dunk with
[1:15:56] Speaker 2: 11 seconds remaining. And with Jokic out of the game,
[1:15:59] Speaker 2: the Thunder elected to foul up three. Aaron Gordon made
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: those free throws, and Chet Holmgren had a chance to
[1:16:06] Speaker 2: extend the lead back to three. Missed those two free throws.
[1:16:08] Speaker 2: Got the rebound, kicked it to Westbrook, but found Aaron Gordon.
[1:16:11] Speaker 2: Hit the three, and Chet Holmgren's grilled to add insult
[1:16:15] Speaker 2: to injury. OKC didn't have any timeouts left. They had
[1:16:18] Speaker 2: tricked off one earlier in the quarter by challenging the
[1:16:20] Speaker 2: SGA foul on Jokic that even Shea told head coach
[1:16:23] Speaker 2: Mark Dagnall not to challenge. So full court desperation heat
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: from Jalen Williams didn't go. Aaron Gordon, second game winner
[1:16:29] Speaker 2: of the playoffs after hitting the first game-winning buzzer-beating dunk
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: in the NBA playoff history in game four of the
[1:16:35] Speaker 2: first round against the Clippers. When you look at Aaron Gordon,
[1:16:39] Speaker 2: I think Joker after the game said he was one
[1:16:41] Speaker 2: of his best teammates, if not the best teammate he's
[1:16:43] Speaker 2: ever had in his career. Aaron Gordon has been very,
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: very vital for the Nuggets in this postseason run. We
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: talked about the game winner over the Clippers with the dunk,
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: hitting this big three. Still game one on the Thunder's
[1:16:54] Speaker 2: home court. What has gotten into Aaron Gordon lately?
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: His confidence is high.
[1:16:59] Speaker 6: I think after that game winner that he had with
[1:17:01] Speaker 6: the Clippers, you know, you need one of those games
[1:17:05] Speaker 6: in the playoffs, and I think that's just been helping
[1:17:06] Speaker 6: his confidence. He played big last night, hitting big shots, rebounding, everything.
[1:17:13] Speaker 6: But like I said, his confidence is just high, really
[1:17:15] Speaker 6: high right now. So I'm happy for him. They asked
[1:17:18] Speaker 6: him after the game about that shot. They said, you
[1:17:20] Speaker 6: know what's going on?
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: He said, I knew it wasn't a miss when it
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: left his hands, hit it in Chad Holmgren's griddle. After
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: Chet missed the two free throws, could have extended the
[1:17:28] Speaker 2: lead back to three. And we talked about Thunder made
[1:17:30] Speaker 2: the decision to foul up three in that situation. Did
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: it a couple times. Ended up costing them. But let's
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: shift over to Nikola Jokic. Likely not to win the MVP.
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: Didn't you just ask a question?
[1:17:42] Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want to answer again? No. Go ahead. No, go. Go.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: You got a G, baby. No, no. Go, go. What
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: do you think about what's going on with Aaron Gordon lately? Nothing. Nothing?
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: I don't know. He hooping.
[1:17:56] Speaker 7: He always been playing well. No, I didn't know. No,
[1:18:02] Speaker 7: he always been like, he's like the perfect fit. He's
[1:18:06] Speaker 7: been playing like the perfect role player for that team
[1:18:09] Speaker 7: for him.
[1:18:10] Speaker 1: The others. He's a tough matchup sometimes. He's aggressive. Got
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: some moves with him every once in a while. I
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: feel like this coach is giving him more confidence a
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: little bit too.
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: David Adelman. Yoke is the coach. He be coaching the
[1:18:29] Speaker 3: hell out them boys.
[1:18:31] Speaker 2: Been spotted several times since the coaching change, running the huddles.
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: Man. What do you think about Aaron Gordon, what he's
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: been doing lately? That uppercut is what got him doing better. See,
[1:18:42] Speaker 1: that's the only reason you wanted to do this.
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: The fact that the motherfucker who uppercutted his ass, that's
[1:18:46] Speaker 4: what got into him.
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: Two families look like, uh-huh. That's right. Get my back right.
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: Before that black guy, trash. Trash. After that black guy, superstar.
[1:18:58] Speaker 1: Who uppercut him, my boy? We don't know yet. We
[1:19:01] Speaker 1: don't know. But whoever it is, it's an MVP. Could
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: have been one of the Jokers, brother. They got luck
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: on their side, too. I don't know. That's crazy.
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: But do you call it luck, though? Down 13, midway
[1:19:12] Speaker 2: through the fourth. Championship experience, but it's a little bit
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: of luck, too.
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: One day. One interview, close. Next interview, close. You need luck?
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: Every championship run, you need a little bit of luck.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: It's always going to happen. A little bit of luck.
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: A little bit of luck is in every championship run.
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: He was there. He was a champion.
[1:19:32] Speaker 10: We talking about basketball. We talking about, man, one stop
[1:19:35] Speaker 10: at a time, bro. Get a fucking stop. Let's run
[1:19:38] Speaker 10: our offense. Let's get another fucking stop. Hey, we 4-0.
[1:19:43] Speaker 10: You feel the heat? You feel it, right?
[1:19:45] Speaker 1: They sweating. Let's get one more. Time out.
[1:19:50] Speaker 10: Y'all ain't see how easy that was. We did that
[1:19:53] Speaker 10: in a minute. Let's do another. Let's do it again.
[1:19:56] Speaker 10: How much was we down?
[1:19:57] Speaker 1: 13? 13 in the fourth. 13.
[1:20:00] Speaker 2: We do that twice. We down one. Similar experience in
[1:20:05] Speaker 2: the first round too. Came back from multiple.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: Stop. Get a stop. It's basketball, bro. It's play ball.
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: It's hoop, man. Get a stop, girl. Lock up. We
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: got one stop. We used to do the drill. Three
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: stops with one point. Yeah. Three stars, one point. Come on, man.
[1:20:22] Speaker 3: I ain't like how OKC played that. Especially that fouling.
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: They fouled.
[1:20:28] Speaker 3: After Shea got that dunk, they fouled somebody so quick.
[1:20:32] Speaker 3: That was crazy. I ain't get that one. I ain't
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: get that one. We'll talk a little bit more in
[1:20:38] Speaker 3: depth about that shortly. But questionable decisions. That challenge came
[1:20:42] Speaker 3: back to bite them. Even SGA telling Dagnon, no. Which
[1:20:45] Speaker 3: you rarely see nowadays.
[1:20:48] Speaker 1: Players.
[1:20:49] Speaker 2: Unwilling to admit that they were in the wrong. But
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: it ended up costing them. It wasn't even necessarily the fouling, too,
[1:20:55] Speaker 2: that was the issue. Obviously, Chet Holmgren makes those free throws.
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: It's a different ball game. He makes two big free throws.
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: Let's talk about Jokic real quick before we move on
[1:21:01] Speaker 2: to the Thunder side of things. Historic line. Join Giannis, Shaq,
[1:21:06] Speaker 2: and Wood as the only players ever to post a 40, 20,
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: and 5 stat line in a playoff game. Talk about
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: the MVP race. Obviously, down to two between Jokic and SGA.
[1:21:15] Speaker 2: SGA looking like he's going to win the MVP. Does
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: the historic line from Jokic prove that he deserved to
[1:21:22] Speaker 2: be the MVP this season?
[1:21:25] Speaker 1: You said it's looking like he's going to win it? SGA,
[1:21:27] Speaker 1: that's what. I don't know. The media fighting this. I
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: think Jokic might win this. Both are already in, been tabulated.
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: Just waiting for the announcement. I hate they do this
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: so long. SGA got this one fucked out of here.
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: I hope he do. No, he do. I hope. Both
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: have been in. Swag them niggas 4-0. Send them home.
[1:21:44] Speaker 1: Show you who the captain is. You're saying that's what
[1:21:47] Speaker 1: the Nuggets need to do to the Thunder? Oh, swack them.
[1:21:51] Speaker 1: Send them on packing.
[1:21:53] Speaker 3: I don't like how anybody can shoot for LKC. But, yeah,
[1:21:56] Speaker 3: I think Jokic is, I think Jokic, he making his case.
[1:22:02] Speaker 3: He making his case. Yeah, I wanted SGA to win
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: it all year. You know what I'm saying? But I
[1:22:10] Speaker 3: think Jokic is for sure. Just the way he's coaching
[1:22:12] Speaker 3: his team and the way he cares a little more.
[1:22:14] Speaker 3: I like any player that cares right now. Anybody that
[1:22:17] Speaker 3: cares a little bit, I'm on your side.
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: So speaking of that, there's often jokes flying online about
[1:22:22] Speaker 2: Jokic not caring, only wanting to tend to his horses
[1:22:25] Speaker 2: back home in Serbia. But look at this clip from
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: last night. Showed you some of the fire intensity he has.
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: Leave the huddle. Be a player coach. They watch what
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: they want to watch. I don't like that idea, dog.
[1:22:43] Speaker 1: That shit is... What you mean? All day. All day.
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: I pointed it out when we was playing. When we
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: was watching the game and I was like, look at
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: Jokic right now. Wanted to quit. He's walking, yelling at
[1:23:03] Speaker 1: the bitch.
[1:23:03] Speaker 8: I'm like, man, if anybody else would have done this shit, bro.
[1:23:06] Speaker 1: That's how it go, though. They talk about Luca. I'm like,
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: look at this man. They on a fast break. Like,
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, the whole.
[1:23:16] Speaker 4: Game until they started coming back now.
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: Now you got the energy. Somebody from America doing that shit.
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching.
[1:23:24] Speaker 8: I was like, yo, this man has the worst body
[1:23:26] Speaker 8: language ever.
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. This shit is horrible. Every play, this
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: man was like. For sure. Yep, every single time. For sure.
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: But there's one.
[1:23:36] Speaker 4: Thing that when we was watching the game, I said, man,
[1:23:40] Speaker 4: it looks like.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: Denver's not playing very well.
[1:23:46] Speaker 4: It looks like OKC is balling, but they only down 10.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:23:52] Speaker 4: I'm saying this just looks like a real big comeback.
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: Like it just, it.
[1:23:56] Speaker 8: Doesn't look like, the score doesn't look how it's playing.
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: And Denver didn't play very well. Right?
[1:24:05] Speaker 4: They didn't shoot the ball very well. They had more
[1:24:09] Speaker 4: free throws, had more offensive rebounds, had more rebounds. They
[1:24:13] Speaker 4: out-rebounded a team that had two seven-footers, which is weird.
[1:24:17] Speaker 4: And it just seems like, well, if y'all couldn't blow
[1:24:21] Speaker 4: them out while they had this performance, you had way
[1:24:26] Speaker 4: more assists than them. It was just an ugly game
[1:24:29] Speaker 4: for Denver, and they pulled it out.
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: That's the thing about basketball, though, and how it is today.
[1:24:34] Speaker 1: It is that, like, OKC, it's sometimes when the corner
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: nigga just ain't supposed to shoot.
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You just ain't supposed to shoot,
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: and everybody OKC can shoot. And that be hurting sometimes.
[1:24:45] Speaker 3: It's got to be like Boston.
[1:24:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.
[1:24:48] Speaker 3: It just look right like, hell yeah, we want you
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: to shoot it. You know, we don't care if you
[1:24:52] Speaker 3: make it or not. The fact that you get to shoot,
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: let us know later in the game. We're going to
[1:24:56] Speaker 3: be straight. And that's where it evens out, because it's like, man,
[1:25:00] Speaker 3: everybody ain't supposed to be shooting, man.
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: Well, if you can shoot or not, you just ain't
[1:25:07] Speaker 1: supposed to.
[1:25:08] Speaker 10: Jalen Williams remind me of Brandon Bowman. A lot of similarities, 6'8,
[1:25:17] Speaker 10: shoot the mid-range, tough defender.
[1:25:22] Speaker 1: He young, though. Jalen Williams can get that second gear, man.
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: Can get him a chance. I just think the Nuggets
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: experience is going to... It's going to kill him in
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: the end.
[1:25:34] Speaker 3: It's going to kill him in the end. SGA can't
[1:25:37] Speaker 3: do it by itself.
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: He don't know how to win yet.
[1:25:40] Speaker 7: I think the Nuggets shot how they're supposed to shoot, though.
[1:25:42] Speaker 7: They ain't really a three-point shooting team like that to me.
[1:25:47] Speaker 7: And also, all these teams have been blowing everybody out.
[1:25:55] Speaker 7: I don't think they was ready for these comebacks. Like
[1:25:58] Speaker 7: OKC blew out fucking Memphis. They probably thought the same
[1:26:04] Speaker 7: thing was going to happen once you get a big lead.
[1:26:08] Speaker 7: It was going to chill, but no, you're playing against
[1:26:10] Speaker 7: a totally different team now. I think both teams got
[1:26:14] Speaker 7: a rule to awaken it from Boston to OKC.
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: It's the matchup, too. We're not going to forget about Cleveland.
[1:26:21] Speaker 1: But Boston played bad. But they were still up. But
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: I'm saying they played bad. OKC didn't play bad. Denver
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: was playing bad. Thunder, least blown leads in the NBA
[1:26:31] Speaker 1: this season. That's what I'm saying. Don't forget about Cleveland. Oh,
[1:26:35] Speaker 1: and Cleveland. All of them. Wake up. Top seeds. All
[1:26:38] Speaker 1: the teams that thought it was sweet. Yeah.
[1:26:41] Speaker 3: But it's certain teams like the Knicks, the Nuggets, they
[1:26:44] Speaker 3: know who they going to.
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That be important in that fourth.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: When you don't know who you going to and everybody
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: don't have anything, go sit in the corner. Them go-to
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: guys scare you. Oh, shit.
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: You talked about Yogesh's body language, but we saw that clip,
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: him fired up. We've seen clips since Mike Malone got booted.
[1:27:04] Speaker 4: I'm laughing how the switch up is so real, dawg.
[1:27:07] Speaker 1: When I said Dylan had one star, the other motherfuckers
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: is too young. You can go on. It's crazy now.
[1:27:23] Speaker 1: They still in it now. No, I'm just saying that,
[1:27:26] Speaker 1: you know. Wait, you said they can still win it?
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: They got one player that's proven. Everybody else is kind
[1:27:32] Speaker 4: of young. But the way they lost.
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: We got Hartstein, we got Caruso. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Caruso, oh,
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: my God. 20 picks in the game. Don't disrespect Caruso.
[1:27:43] Speaker 1: 20 off the bench. Five steals. If Caruso is you.
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: If that's what you're relying on, that he has to
[1:27:51] Speaker 4: be your second best player.
[1:27:53] Speaker 7: I rely on Caruso over Brown, whatever the motherfucking name,
[1:27:58] Speaker 7: on Denver.
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: Christian Brown? Christian Brown. Caruso don't play on Denver. Christian
[1:28:03] Speaker 1: Brown do? No, I mean, he don't play. What does
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: that got to do? They not relying on Christian Brown. No,
[1:28:09] Speaker 1: they don't. Last night they did. For three, that's who.
[1:28:12] Speaker 1: He had a double-double. He had a double-double. He's not
[1:28:16] Speaker 1: a double-double guy. Clippers and Game 7. We're not talking
[1:28:19] Speaker 1: about Christian Brown.
[1:28:19] Speaker 4: We're talking about who is OKC's second option.
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: The same thing I said. Who is it? Is he
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: good enough to help carry the load? Who is Denver's
[1:28:32] Speaker 1: second option? Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray? And then you got
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon.
[1:28:38] Speaker 4: But if you take out Aaron Gordon, we have Murray.
[1:28:39] Speaker 4: who is a proven second option. He used to be
[1:28:42] Speaker 4: a first option until.
[1:28:42] Speaker 1: He got hurt.
[1:28:43] Speaker 4: So you have those two that if Jokic goes down,
[1:28:46] Speaker 4: we know who's good enough to carry. And I said, OK,
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: so you don't have that. Their second best player is
[1:28:52] Speaker 4: a very young kid.
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: And we talked about that with SGA's pops as well,
[1:28:55] Speaker 2: and he acknowledged that Jalen Williams is young, coming into
[1:28:58] Speaker 2: his own, but... Man, he's still, you know, quite enough
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: playoff experience just yet.
[1:29:02] Speaker 4: When you look at the group, it's a veteran team,
[1:29:07] Speaker 4: but their second and third main piece is still just
[1:29:11] Speaker 4: very young right now.
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: And I... You can see it, like Jalen and Chet, right?
[1:29:18] Speaker 1: They're young.
[1:29:18] Speaker 4: They're going to do some young... They're going to do
[1:29:20] Speaker 4: some young people shit. They play as a group. Yeah,
[1:29:23] Speaker 4: they play as a group. But when I need you
[1:29:26] Speaker 4: to do it, that young shit come out. And I'm like, well, Denver, them.
[1:29:32] Speaker 1: Vets, they're not going to take no bullshit. They're not
[1:29:35] Speaker 1: going to take no bullshit shots.
[1:29:37] Speaker 4: Even with Christian Brown, he's still hesitant on some of
[1:29:40] Speaker 4: the shit he do.
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: He's like, ah. Even when he got that rebound. He
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: was going to get ready to go and he was like,
[1:29:48] Speaker 1: let me go ahead and give it up, brother. And
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: I know when Russ got it, he was like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit, Russ.
[1:29:56] Speaker 1: Russ doing his shit, bro. Yeah, I was a little nervous.
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: He made that fast. I said, oh, all right.
[1:30:04] Speaker 2: And quick before we continue, everybody who's watching the stream,
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: if you're having audio issues, refresh very quickly. Get right
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: back to the show. But let's keep it going. But yeah,
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: you talk about that last play.
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: Young and all. Can we talk about the last play?
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: Young and all. They still lost off what the coach
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: told them to do, though. Nah, that's irrelevant. And we're
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: going to talk about that in a second. Nah, that's irrelevant.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: Because you got to make them free throws. He makes
[1:30:30] Speaker 1: the free throws. It's a different ball.
[1:30:31] Speaker 2: But there were some coaching miscues from Dagnall in that game.
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: And he said fouling on threes is a philosophy they have.
[1:30:37] Speaker 2: But you had Jokic on the bench. SGA got that dunk.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: They thought they were going to foul in that situation
[1:30:41] Speaker 2: and be able to get Joker back in. Foul right away.
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: That leads to these opportunities. Obviously, hindsight 2020. But on
[1:30:47] Speaker 2: the OKC side, Shea remains confident that his team will
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: bounce back after letting the lead slip away in game one.
[1:30:55] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: It should be good. It should be fun. There you go.
[1:30:59] Speaker 5: We're going to find out what we're made of, what
[1:31:02] Speaker 5: we're really made of.
[1:31:03] Speaker 1: I love it.
[1:31:04] Speaker 5: And we can expect it to be smooth sailing this
[1:31:06] Speaker 5: whole journey. No journey in life is, and we know that.
[1:31:09] Speaker 5: And today is a bump in the road, unexpected. No
[1:31:13] Speaker 5: one expects to lose, especially that way. But it's the
[1:31:16] Speaker 5: game of life. So it's about how you respond to
[1:31:19] Speaker 5: getting knocked down, and that's what we got to do
[1:31:21] Speaker 5: next game.
[1:31:27] Speaker 4: Listen, I was watching the motherfucker at 5 or 20,
[1:31:30] Speaker 4: looking at his Gatorade recently.
[1:31:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so this Gatorade. Thirst quencher. Thirst quencher? Yeah.
[1:31:37] Speaker 1: Shea was hot, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jalen Williams, 5
[1:31:42] Speaker 1: or 20 in the game. All-star edition. Because they needed
[1:31:46] Speaker 1: that game. Horrible out-of-bounds play.
[1:31:48] Speaker 4: It's horrible out-of-bounds play.
[1:31:51] Speaker 1: Right? You know, you....
[1:31:53] Speaker 4: Shea just got a backdoor. Obviously, it was going to
[1:31:55] Speaker 4: take away. You're supposed to get the ball again. The
[1:31:59] Speaker 4: person who's taking the ball out-of-bounds, you're supposed to give
[1:32:01] Speaker 4: him the ball again.
[1:32:03] Speaker 1: Give it to somebody young. And.
[1:32:06] Speaker 1: Some young shit, but you're supposed to give it to
[1:32:08] Speaker 1: your best player, the best player who just....
[1:32:11] Speaker 4: You know, so you got a guy up there who
[1:32:13] Speaker 4: ain't been in them situations before, and you miss both
[1:32:15] Speaker 4: free throws.
[1:32:16] Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fouling too early, too. They was fouling too early, too. Okay, see.
[1:32:23] Speaker 7: They fouled a man, like, soon when he touched the ball,
[1:32:26] Speaker 7: they just touched him.
[1:32:27] Speaker 1: He couldn't even... You're supposed to let some clock run
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: out before you foul, right?
[1:32:31] Speaker 7: If you're going to do that, at least let him
[1:32:32] Speaker 7: dribble up the court. That got to take a couple
[1:32:36] Speaker 7: seconds off. I don't like fouling you.
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: I don't either. I would have just let him.
[1:32:39] Speaker 4: I don't like fouling. I do not like fouling up three.
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: It is designed for an L.
[1:32:46] Speaker 1: Giving points away don't make sense. Yeah.
[1:32:49] Speaker 4: Because now if they make their two free throws, they're
[1:32:51] Speaker 4: going to foul you.
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: Now you got to make it. Now you got to
[1:32:54] Speaker 1: make it. Put the pressure back on you.
[1:32:56] Speaker 8: Because if he misses it, they got to foul game over.
[1:32:59] Speaker 8: If he makes it. I got the last shot.
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: I don't lose.
[1:33:04] Speaker 8: So it's the situation like I've always asked.
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: That was dumb yesterday.
[1:33:11] Speaker 2: Paolo, can you cue up that last play from the
[1:33:13] Speaker 2: highlight when you get a second? The rest of Aaron
[1:33:17] Speaker 2: Gordon game winner from the highlight. We'll give Paolo a
[1:33:21] Speaker 2: second to get that going. Hardest working man behind the scenes.
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: We can talk about what OKC didn't do all day.
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: I'd rather talk about what Russell Westbrook did do.
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: In the final play. Our advanced technology.
[1:33:40] Speaker 3: Which was the one thing that I think separates Russ
[1:33:43] Speaker 3: from everybody else.
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: Even when he plays reckless at times. Right here, right here.
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: The next one. Yeah, you can start it from right
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: here if you don't mind.
[1:33:52] Speaker 3: All right, so what I remember about basketball, pitch your
[1:33:58] Speaker 3: head right here.
[1:33:59] Speaker 1: Stop it.
[1:34:01] Speaker 3: All right, right here, what I was taught about basketball,
[1:34:04] Speaker 3: whether it's point guard or shooting guard, get the ball,
[1:34:10] Speaker 3: cross the midline. Cross the midline is going towards the
[1:34:14] Speaker 3: middle of the floor, which collapses the whole defense for
[1:34:18] Speaker 3: an open shot. Russell Westbrook is the standard point guard
[1:34:21] Speaker 3: who understands that. And the moment he caught it, he
[1:34:25] Speaker 3: looked up and he seen that the only thing he
[1:34:27] Speaker 3: could do was to attack.
[1:34:29] Speaker 1: And he seemed what he seemed. He was a wide
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: open man.
[1:34:32] Speaker 3: And that's Aaron Gore having the intelligence to run the
[1:34:35] Speaker 3: floor space out.
[1:34:38] Speaker 1: Check, got to make a decision. Late. Bottoms. That's all Russ.
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: That's all basketball savvy. Push the break.
[1:34:46] Speaker 3: Because if Russ keeps the ball in his right hand
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: and he tries to go baseline, it's a dead play.
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us thought that was
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: going to be Russ. You know, Russ... Only knows one speed.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: Clock left.
[1:34:58] Speaker 10: I think in that moment, he stopped thinking about himself,
[1:35:00] Speaker 10: and he was like, I need to make a.
[1:35:02] Speaker 3: Play for somebody. And we in transition, three, four seconds left.
[1:35:08] Speaker 3: I think he made the perfect play, the perfect basketball
[1:35:11] Speaker 3: play for the win, and it was in real time.
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: And I applaud. I want to applaud. Look how hard
[1:35:19] Speaker 1: Joker running for that. I mean, they didn't need a three, though,
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: but I get it.
[1:35:23] Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's still five seconds left
[1:35:26] Speaker 7: when he got it.
[1:35:27] Speaker 1: I mean, they down one, so you don't need a three,
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: but I mean, I take it. It's a comfortable shot.
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: Running into it. We worked on that right there. I mean,
[1:35:38] Speaker 1: I ain't going front. I mean, I ain't going front.
[1:35:40] Speaker 1: You could get him off a little bit. Touch half court,
[1:35:45] Speaker 1: come back. That's the drill we do. Touch half court,
[1:35:48] Speaker 1: run back. All right. No, I mean, no, it's a
[1:35:52] Speaker 1: good shot.
[1:35:53] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Russ could still could have went down
[1:35:55] Speaker 3: the middle some more and get him to... No more
[1:35:57] Speaker 3: dribble with Russ. Turned over. Off his foot. Yeah, you
[1:36:00] Speaker 3: already know. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: We've seen both sides. If he missed that, me saying
[1:36:06] Speaker 1: we didn't need a three. If he misses that, that
[1:36:08] Speaker 1: was a horrible play. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He
[1:36:12] Speaker 1: didn't need a three.
[1:36:13] Speaker 16: But you don't need a three, though.
[1:36:15] Speaker 1: If he misses that... But you don't need a three.
[1:36:18] Speaker 1: Who was the worst shooter on the court? Right. That's
[1:36:21] Speaker 1: that position to shoot. Right here. So, I mean, as
[1:36:24] Speaker 1: a defensive team, you're living with that. You're living with who? Russ?
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: No, you're living with Aaron Gordon.
[1:36:33] Speaker 1: You're living with Aaron Gordon shooting a three.
[1:36:36] Speaker 4: And that's why Chet was basically stopping Russ from getting
[1:36:39] Speaker 4: in the basket.
[1:36:40] Speaker 1: And they didn't get a three, so he could have
[1:36:42] Speaker 1: went white. The Nuggets happy they're getting a catch, even
[1:36:45] Speaker 1: if it's... Yeah, no, no. I mean, both sides is happy. Yeah. Yeah,
[1:36:48] Speaker 1: for sure. Right, you're like, okay, that ain't Jokic, that
[1:36:50] Speaker 1: ain't Murray. Okay, we cool. Both sides can't be happy.
[1:36:53] Speaker 1: One side won, one side lost. I'm just talking about
[1:36:56] Speaker 1: at this moment. We stopping right now. Game. Not talking
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: about the game. Game. I'm Aaron Gordon. That's game. Because
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: guess what I just did? I had a game winner before.
[1:37:05] Speaker 1: A dunk.
[1:37:06] Speaker 3: I hit a three to time. I think I put
[1:37:08] Speaker 3: us in position before that with a three. A game
[1:37:12] Speaker 3: before that, I hit a three to put us in position.
[1:37:14] Speaker 3: Everybody knows I can hit this shot. What you talking about?
[1:37:18] Speaker 3: We in position for a reason. Dunked on Chad earlier
[1:37:20] Speaker 3: in this game.
[1:37:21] Speaker 1: A lot.
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's talk thundersided things. So, OKC head
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: coach Mark Dagnall. took the blame for the Thunder fouling
[1:37:30] Speaker 2: up three and deciding to go back and forth with
[1:37:32] Speaker 2: free throws, which ultimately hurt them.
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
[1:37:35] Speaker 17: The fouling up three, that's on me. You know, I
[1:37:38] Speaker 17: think given the foul and getting the foul executed is critical.
[1:37:43] Speaker 17: So if, you know, there's something to be learned from that,
[1:37:46] Speaker 17: it's probably given it too early on my part.
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: But that's not on the players. They're executing what I'm
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: telling them to do.
[1:37:52] Speaker 2: He said that that is the Thunder philosophy. They always
[1:37:54] Speaker 2: foul up three at that point. Jokic out of the game.
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: He had five fouls.
[1:38:00] Speaker 1: S.J.
[1:38:00] Speaker 4: Gets that dunk. They foul right away. I've always asked
[1:38:04] Speaker 4: the coach, why do y'all do that? And I've never
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: heard one smart, responsible answer. It's like that's what they
[1:38:11] Speaker 4: were taught. That's what they teach. I've never understood it.
[1:38:16] Speaker 4: Because if they do miss, game over. If they make it,
[1:38:18] Speaker 4: it's just high game, bro.
[1:38:20] Speaker 7: It is the right time to do it, I feel like.
[1:38:23] Speaker 1: Under three or two. You're giving them two points.
[1:38:27] Speaker 7: But if I'm up three and it's like two or
[1:38:29] Speaker 7: three seconds, left, I could see it then.
[1:38:31] Speaker 2: But not 13 seconds. It was like 10 seconds left.
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: Like I said, Jokic on the bench at that point.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: They were trying to sub him back in. Thought they
[1:38:38] Speaker 2: were going to play the foul game. SGA gets that dunk.
[1:38:41] Speaker 2: Remember I said that? I was like, I mean, they score.
[1:38:43] Speaker 4: When they're going to hit these two free throws, foul you,
[1:38:45] Speaker 4: there's still about nine seconds left.
[1:38:47] Speaker 8: I can still score again and then fouling like there's
[1:38:51] Speaker 8: too much, too many possessions.
[1:38:53] Speaker 2: The other part of that conversation, SGA 90% free throw shooter,
[1:38:56] Speaker 2: should he have took that dunk there? I'm saying get
[1:38:58] Speaker 2: the two points, right, always?
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: When?
[1:39:00] Speaker 2: When you got a dunk? Or are you trying to
[1:39:02] Speaker 2: burn a little more? Oh, get the no, get your
[1:39:03] Speaker 2: two points. You got to get your fucking points. They
[1:39:06] Speaker 2: were talking about on Inside the NBA, I think the.
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: No, no, no. They're game winners. Don't even worry about that.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: Everybody on Inside NBA didn't know. But I'm thinking the
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: same thing.
[1:39:13] Speaker 4: Ain't no, none of them got the ball talking about, like,
[1:39:15] Speaker 4: so this ain't even in conversation.
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: And I was rolling with it because it put me
[1:39:18] Speaker 1: over on my pick of my underdog. I needed 32.5.
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: It's not our favorite, the 33. I'll say dunk it.
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: The problem is, it's.
[1:39:26] Speaker 4: As a coach, you ran a play that got a
[1:39:31] Speaker 4: wide open layup. And then you double back on the
[1:39:35] Speaker 4: same play. like they're that stupid. Run another play, something
[1:39:40] Speaker 4: different to make sure your guy gets the ball. To
[1:39:47] Speaker 4: make sure your guy, the guy, the MVP or the
[1:39:51] Speaker 4: runner-up gets the ball. If this was Denver, there's only
[1:39:56] Speaker 4: two people that was going to get the ball in
[1:39:58] Speaker 4: that situation, Murray or Jokic. Murray first, Jokic second. If
[1:40:03] Speaker 4: I can't get them the ball, fuck it, time out.
[1:40:06] Speaker 3: Anytime you try to be smarter than the game, that
[1:40:08] Speaker 3: shit always gonna show. Coaches, they be trying to do
[1:40:11] Speaker 3: some shit like that.
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: Like, come on, bro. How you gonna get some niggas
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: to point? What are we doing?
[1:40:17] Speaker 3: We stay on the sideline. At the end of the day,
[1:40:20] Speaker 3: you still on the sideline. You ain't doing the hooping shit.
[1:40:22] Speaker 3: So why are you giving niggas points?
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: For real. Giving niggas points. Dang, man. Them niggas don't
[1:40:28] Speaker 1: want to be at that free throw line. Yeah, bro.
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: We saw it last night. For real. That ball feel
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: like a brick. Mm-hmm. That ball get heavy. All seven foot.
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: That ball get heavy, man. Tapped on the chest at
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: the free throw line. That shit got so heavy, Christian
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: Brown didn't even want the rebound. But how did that feel, though?
[1:40:43] Speaker 1: You saw what happened in that minute, right? Christian Brown.
[1:40:45] Speaker 1: All the way. Yeah, they was like, man, fuck that.
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm good. You saw Westbrook peel out.
[1:40:53] Speaker 2: On the second miss free throw, leaving Brown to get it.
[1:40:55] Speaker 1: Brown was like, man, fuck this. I don't want to
[1:40:57] Speaker 1: turn this shit over. Yeah, Christian Brown came like this.
[1:41:00] Speaker 1: They were both just looking at it. You don't want
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: to be at that line, free throw one. That's why
[1:41:02] Speaker 1: Russ knew. He said, I'm passing this one, not today.
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: They're not getting me today. Survey, Russ. Russ, when you
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: survey good things happen. Somebody was like, don't foul me
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: at the free throw. I don't want that. I don't
[1:41:13] Speaker 1: want that. Well, Russ, yeah, that was a great play.
[1:41:16] Speaker 1: That was a great play. You would have made that pass? Yeah,
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: hopefully I would have. Shit, that was a great play.
[1:41:22] Speaker 1: I'd hit that motherfucker in the right and bop, right
[1:41:25] Speaker 1: back left, and bop. I told you. Yee! I told you. Yee!
[1:41:31] Speaker 1: I told you. You down one. You down one. Down one,
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: they got the best shot. Oh, no, I'm getting booed. Oh,
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: I'm getting booed at the end of the game. If
[1:41:40] Speaker 1: I'm going to get booed, I'm getting booed on my
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: own accord. I'm not getting booed trying to make a
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: good play. No!
[1:41:46] Speaker 3: That was a nigga that said, you had a franchise.
[1:41:49] Speaker 3: I never had a franchise, so I was like, hold up.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: And I know you're not passing to a motherfucker lower
[1:41:53] Speaker 1: than you. Get off me. No, man. That was a
[1:41:58] Speaker 1: good play for Russ. I mean, that was a good
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: play for him. That was a great play for Russ. Yeah,
[1:42:01] Speaker 1: for sure. Because he's going to make that play every
[1:42:03] Speaker 1: single time. Come on now. Huh? We just seen Russ
[1:42:06] Speaker 1: jump in there and throw it off a nigga. The
[1:42:08] Speaker 1: nigga checking him.
[1:42:09] Speaker 3: We didn't see Russ do that, so we got to
[1:42:13] Speaker 3: praise Russ.
[1:42:15] Speaker 1: Not for sure. You got to. I was like, yo,
[1:42:18] Speaker 1: you don't call no time. I just go. Russ got
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: it like, wait, wait. Okay. All right. I think they
[1:42:25] Speaker 1: might have been out of time. I was at that point, though.
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: He's coming into himself, though. He's saying, like, I get
[1:42:30] Speaker 3: on the court just to mess shit up.
[1:42:31] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[1:42:32] Speaker 1: He know himself, now. Yeah. An old team, too?
[1:42:35] Speaker 2: That's the Westbrook experience. You got to take the good
[1:42:37] Speaker 2: with the bad. Made shots, missed shots, steals, turnovers. You
[1:42:40] Speaker 2: never know what.
[1:42:41] Speaker 1: You're going to get.
[1:42:42] Speaker 3: He really playing his best basketball we've even seen.
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: This is great basketball from Russ. Yeah.
[1:42:48] Speaker 3: MVP season was great, but he was still out.
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: Of his mind. Game be out of his mind. When
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: you see him control like this, you got to fuck
[1:42:58] Speaker 1: him up. How is we not rooting for him?
[1:43:00] Speaker 10: How is we not rooting for Russ to win a
[1:43:02] Speaker 10: chip and solidify himself in history?
[1:43:04] Speaker 2: Basically, after that situation that happened with the Clippers last season.
[1:43:09] Speaker 1: He's solidified. He's fighting for it. He's fighting. He won it.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: He can feel that shit close. It's close.
[1:43:14] Speaker 10: It ain't about Russ. It's about fucking. And he with Joker.
[1:43:19] Speaker 10: He with somebody he can get it with.
[1:43:20] Speaker 2: Back in OKC, you know what?
[1:43:23] Speaker 1: It's because of how he... He won another championship. They
[1:43:25] Speaker 1: don't say Joker the best player to ever play. It's
[1:43:27] Speaker 1: because of how he plays. It's how Russ plays. Everything
[1:43:31] Speaker 1: is so boom. Yeah. Right? Like, his steals, his rebounds,
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: and nigga, Mr. Layup. Like, everything is so explosive. When
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: he does bad, it looks bad.
[1:43:42] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: Mr. Layup been fouling a nigga at the three-point line. Like,
[1:43:44] Speaker 1: you just.
[1:43:45] Speaker 4: It just comes in waves, and it's like, you just gotta...
[1:43:49] Speaker 4: You just got to take it. It's like, you know,
[1:43:50] Speaker 4: it's like you got to have it.
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:43:52] Speaker 3: How many times, I know you done played with a
[1:43:55] Speaker 3: lot of coaches before y'all went pro. It wouldn't have
[1:43:58] Speaker 3: been too many coaches that would have let y'all do
[1:43:59] Speaker 3: that rush shit and still made it to the next level.
[1:44:03] Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, it
[1:44:05] Speaker 1: would have been.
[1:44:06] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? They would have been like, no,
[1:44:07] Speaker 3: this nigga out here is mine. Get him, you know
[1:44:10] Speaker 3: what I'm saying? He too wild.
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: He too wild. Russ was flying, though. I feel you.
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: He would fly headfirst into some shit, though. Nah, not
[1:44:19] Speaker 1: Young Russ. Young Russ? Young Russ? Young Russ is the
[1:44:21] Speaker 1: finals now. Come on, man. Young Russ is a lot.
[1:44:26] Speaker 1: Young Russ different hoops with the middy. Young Russ is
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: a cold nigga, man.
[1:44:31] Speaker 3: We never found out why KD left, but I think
[1:44:33] Speaker 3: it got something to do with that crazy shit.
[1:44:36] Speaker 1: No, no. If KD was in that corner, that motherfucker
[1:44:40] Speaker 1: would have went right. Oh, shit. I don't get it.
[1:44:42] Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He ain't the only MVP.
[1:44:47] Speaker 1: No fact. That's crazy. That's crazy. He would have went left.
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: Come on man the freeze out okay D so quickly
[1:44:55] Speaker 2: before we move on.
[1:44:56] Speaker 4: He just tries to play too perfect sometimes who I
[1:44:59] Speaker 4: think a lot of his mistakes comes from he's trying
[1:45:01] Speaker 4: to play too perfect.
[1:45:02] Speaker 1: Russ don't know the word perfect he don't give a
[1:45:04] Speaker 1: fuck about perfect.
[1:45:05] Speaker 4: Like sometimes he be making moves and I'm like nah
[1:45:07] Speaker 4: that's the.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: One you take and he's They be thinking. Just be
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: thinking too much. Yeah, just be thinking too much sometimes.
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: It's the critics, man. It's the critics. He's good when
[1:45:17] Speaker 1: he's not thinking.
[1:45:18] Speaker 3: You ask Russ, he say, man, it's a part of
[1:45:20] Speaker 3: the game, making mistakes when you play hard.
[1:45:22] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:45:23] Speaker 3: You're going to make more mistakes when you play that hard.
[1:45:26] Speaker 1: If you would have.
[1:45:27] Speaker 3: Got eight, seven turnovers a game for your whole 10,
[1:45:30] Speaker 3: 12-year career.
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: That's not the stat. Don't throw that stat. That ain't
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: the stat? What is it? Eight, seven turnovers a game
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: for Russ is insane, bro. What is it? Don't say
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: that's going to be true. I don't know the stats.
[1:45:40] Speaker 10: I'm just saying that sounds crazy for Russ as a
[1:45:44] Speaker 10: point guard, and you know that's insane.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying. Russ Brooke, four turnovers
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: per game. Four turnovers. He averaged them by what? Nine, 10, 12.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: He averaged four. Eight and four. That was a great year.
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: He's two and one. I wanted him to win the MVP.
[1:46:00] Speaker 1: For four years. He's two and one. He's two and one.
[1:46:02] Speaker 3: But, Russ, when you play that reckless, right, but you
[1:46:05] Speaker 3: know how to play, the coach is going to love
[1:46:07] Speaker 3: it because you're playing with purpose.
[1:46:08] Speaker 1: It's purposeful. Well, I love Russell. Let me just say that.
[1:46:15] Speaker 1: Some people, he said, didn't like him. I love that thing.
[1:46:18] Speaker 1: The only way to disarm.
[1:46:19] Speaker 3: Russ is to wear some shit he don't like.
[1:46:23] Speaker 1: I like him. He's just not on that level. Everybody
[1:46:26] Speaker 1: needs that same string, though. You know what I'm saying? B.
[1:46:29] Speaker 1: Jenner's at the point when if you would have been
[1:46:31] Speaker 1: doing that shit, you would have been out there a
[1:46:33] Speaker 1: long time ago. I'm just saying. Trying to create something.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: Going to get turnovers now. If you're out there. Everybody
[1:46:40] Speaker 1: that's creating. They get turnovers and shit, too.
[1:46:44] Speaker 10: But you got to do it your way. That's what
[1:46:46] Speaker 10: he do. He said, I'm going to do it my way.
[1:46:50] Speaker 10: It's going to be Russell Westbrook in the history books.
[1:46:52] Speaker 10: You're going to be like.
[1:46:53] Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you got to have
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: that fuck it.
[1:46:55] Speaker 4: That's the only way to survive. That fuck it. You
[1:46:59] Speaker 4: know why a lot of coaches actually like him? Because
[1:47:03] Speaker 4: he plays so hard.
[1:47:05] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:47:06] Speaker 4: So when you're talking about practice, when you're talking about preparation,
[1:47:08] Speaker 4: when you're talking about the game, and you're telling the
[1:47:12] Speaker 4: coach to judge who he wants on the court, Russell
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: Westbrook is going to always stand out to them.
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: Because he does one thing that you're begging your team
[1:47:23] Speaker 1: to do. Go hard. Give me effort.
[1:47:27] Speaker 8: That old saying, just go out there and play hard.
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: And then you're like, wait, hold on, you got to
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: play smart too. But with him, just go out there
[1:47:33] Speaker 1: and play hard. You know what I mean?
[1:47:35] Speaker 4: And And I think that's where he lies with coaches. Like,
[1:47:40] Speaker 4: the coaches, like, I want him on my team, right?
[1:47:43] Speaker 4: Because if he can get just one or two other
[1:47:47] Speaker 4: players to go as hard as him, we're good. You know,
[1:47:50] Speaker 4: it's just the media just has this thing because they
[1:47:52] Speaker 4: look at a whole bunch of empty shit that has
[1:47:55] Speaker 4: nothing to do with the game itself. You know, you
[1:47:58] Speaker 4: bash a dude for getting rebounds. That's effort, motherfucker. You
[1:48:02] Speaker 4: mad at him for just effort?
[1:48:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. Crazy.
[1:48:10] Speaker 2: So, Thunder won average margin of victory this year nearly
[1:48:14] Speaker 2: 13 points per game. You think they bounce back in
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: game two?
[1:48:28] Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, yeah. For sure. They better.
[1:48:32] Speaker 7: Am I the only person that thinks OKC is going
[1:48:36] Speaker 7: to win it?
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: Go win the series. That's why I make sure when
[1:48:40] Speaker 1: you said win. I'm the only person? I think so.
[1:48:42] Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think so. I think they
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: can win it, but I ain't as confident as they record.
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: You're not the only person, man. Oh. I don't think so. Sean,
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: what do you got in the back? Yeah, they not
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: winning it. This series, no. You don't think so? No. Oh, no. Nah,
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: too much. Right now. Just off of just last night's game, like,
[1:49:02] Speaker 1: you played well. Y'all played well. They played bad. They won.
[1:49:06] Speaker 3: Oh.
[1:49:09] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: And that's the only thing I'm questioning, that they played well.
[1:49:15] Speaker 4: They played well to win by 20, and they lost it.
[1:49:18] Speaker 4: So if Denver plays well, too, like, what do we...
[1:49:21] Speaker 4: So how much pressure is on them going into this game, too, though?
[1:49:24] Speaker 4: Because you go down 0-2, now you got to go
[1:49:26] Speaker 4: to Denver for two games.
[1:49:27] Speaker 1: Dave. Denver just came from a seven-game series. That's what
[1:49:32] Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, it was against them. They was tired.
[1:49:35] Speaker 1: They was... I don't know. I mean, I got to
[1:49:38] Speaker 1: see how game two is played. I mean, I think
[1:49:40] Speaker 1: OKC had too much rest, too, though. They was waiting around.
[1:49:42] Speaker 1: They didn't play bad, though. It's not like... I know, but,
[1:49:44] Speaker 1: you know, it's just that, like, even with the Cavs...
[1:49:46] Speaker 1: They did play a little bad. Remember the Cavs? Like,
[1:49:48] Speaker 1: they played, like... They had some... They both shot 42%.
[1:49:53] Speaker 1: Both shots, 42%. Nah, man.
[1:49:55] Speaker 4: Jalen Williams was 5 for 20.
[1:49:58] Speaker 1: They both shot 42%. That's 42%? 5 for 20? That's
[1:50:02] Speaker 1: one player. I think he's talking teams. Never mind. Never mind. No,
[1:50:05] Speaker 1: but they played good. That's not playing good. We just
[1:50:07] Speaker 1: killed Wilford Carter for that. What? Boston for shooting those
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: type of shots. No, I said the team.
[1:50:14] Speaker 4: They both shot 42% from the field. Then OKC shot
[1:50:19] Speaker 4: better from the three. Denver shot better from the free
[1:50:22] Speaker 4: throw line. Sean, are you feeling a nugget sweep? Lakers
[1:50:28] Speaker 4: in five.
[1:50:30] Speaker 2: We're not talking about teams that are not in the
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: postseason currently.
[1:50:35] Speaker 1: Lakers in five. We got a game tonight? Remember how
[1:50:39] Speaker 1: we got him tonight again? No, no. We got the sweet, right?
[1:50:41] Speaker 1: Remember the sweet? Remember the sweet? Nobody said anything about it.
[1:50:45] Speaker 1: We got a sweet. Remember I had my own and
[1:50:47] Speaker 1: y'all had y'all own. Played a night. Lakers in five, right?
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: Lakers played a night? I don't know, but it's been
[1:50:53] Speaker 1: other good games. Yeah, why you got that? Oh, nah,
[1:50:56] Speaker 1: ain't no better game than Lakers in five. Worry about
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: the Cavs? Shit, Cavs? Ain't no better game than Lakers
[1:51:02] Speaker 1: in five. It's Laker Day, and we talking Lakers today?
[1:51:04] Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. Oh, no, hold on. We're supposed to talk
[1:51:08] Speaker 1: about the Lakers. How long have you been in that bag? Huh?
[1:51:11] Speaker 1: Why are you worried about the jersey? What's today? Stop!
[1:51:14] Speaker 1: It's Thursday! It is safety mile. You miss me? You
[1:51:26] Speaker 1: didn't say you miss me, Nick. Damn. Homie? Yeah. Yeah.
[1:51:34] Speaker 1: Lakers in five. Like I said, I've got OKC.
[1:51:37] Speaker 3: Put on some music so we can do a little
[1:51:39] Speaker 3: jive to it.
[1:51:40] Speaker 1: I'll put my belt on. I've got OKC.
[1:51:41] Speaker 10: I'm going to put my belt on. Lakers in five.
[1:51:45] Speaker 10: We ain't doing Lakers in five no more. We had
[1:51:47] Speaker 10: tacos yesterday. OK, you're over it.
[1:51:50] Speaker 3: I mean, shit, Buck's at home.
[1:51:53] Speaker 1: Lakers at home. Lakers is clowning me, but now it's
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: like the clown is here. Yeah, bro, I'm here. No,
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: Lakers in five. Luka. Remember y'all with Luka, Luka, Luka?
[1:52:08] Speaker 1: Did this nigga just get out of jail? Like, his last...
[1:52:14] Speaker 1: Lose a cup. Lose a cup.
[1:52:16] Speaker 5: 2027.
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: That nigga must have did a weekend. The nigga just
[1:52:20] Speaker 1: got out laughing at that shit. We in the second round. Hey,
[1:52:25] Speaker 1: that's what happened when they put me in jail. They
[1:52:29] Speaker 1: kept me off. I got to get my shit off.
[1:52:31] Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm going to go back to jail. Shit,
[1:52:34] Speaker 1: let me get back in this shit.
[1:52:36] Speaker 3: Shit, I don't know when.
[1:52:40] Speaker 1: I wake up and it ain't my turn today. Shit,
[1:52:42] Speaker 1: because I love it. to come in on a Monday
[1:52:45] Speaker 1: when you motherfuckers was talking that bullshit. There was no
[1:52:47] Speaker 1: Laker conversation on Monday. Yeah, I know it ain't no
[1:52:50] Speaker 1: Laker conversation. We know.
[1:52:51] Speaker 3: I'm trying to help you talk about the Lakers today.
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: Not interested. We're talking about teams currently in the playoffs.
[1:52:58] Speaker 1: I told y'all his chat GBT was fucked up. You
[1:53:00] Speaker 1: gotta hit the update button. Update. Just update your software.
[1:53:07] Speaker 1: Talk to Alexa. 2026. They got a new thing, Gemini
[1:53:10] Speaker 1: or some shit I heard. Talk to Gemini. What's that one?
[1:53:15] Speaker 1: You know, that's a classic one.
[1:53:16] Speaker 4: Ooh.
[1:53:17] Speaker 1: You know, that's a classic. He got the most LeBron
[1:53:18] Speaker 1: jerseys on the couch. Because I thought he was going
[1:53:20] Speaker 1: to win a chip this year. Oh, OK. I'm sorry.
[1:53:23] Speaker 1: I thought he was going all the way. I invested
[1:53:26] Speaker 1: in this shit. Now I got to pack this shit
[1:53:28] Speaker 1: up and go to Cancun.
[1:53:30] Speaker 2: Keep it for the state right there in the back.
[1:53:31] Speaker 2: Keep it for next year. You're about seven days too late.
[1:53:35] Speaker 2: It'll be pertinent in 2026. That nigga said Lakers. I'm
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: sure the.
[1:53:38] Speaker 3: Fans will appreciate Lakers and Fox.
[1:53:43] Speaker 1: Damn. Lakers and Fox. That joke been killed all week. Damn.
[1:53:48] Speaker 1: But guess who's laughing now? Nobody. Me. Oh, this nigga.
[1:53:56] Speaker 3: That lame ass shit. Yeah, I could laugh at my
[1:54:00] Speaker 3: own jokes too, nigga. Fuck is y'all niggas talking about?
[1:54:05] Speaker 3: Lakers in five, like I said.
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: We're talking about current playoff teams.
[1:54:08] Speaker 3: They don't like that shit, huh?
[1:54:13] Speaker 1: Come on, man. Pick the energy up. Y'all niggas had
[1:54:16] Speaker 1: good Laker energy. Now y'all watching from afar. Bucks and Lakers.
[1:54:22] Speaker 1: You laugh like that again. Bucks and Lakers. Now y'all
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: got shit to say about the winning team. You laugh
[1:54:26] Speaker 1: like that again.
[1:54:27] Speaker 3: Y'all niggas is back to the weird old time, man.
[1:54:30] Speaker 1: Let the winning team talk, man. That's it. Let the
[1:54:33] Speaker 1: winning team talk. That's it.
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: Now pick two teams so you can enter the conversation.
[1:54:37] Speaker 4: Winning team is Cleveland. Can we talk about Cleveland? That's
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: the winning team.
[1:54:39] Speaker 1: That's what that is. Come on over here. I thought
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: we were talking basketball. He said we talking Cleveland. Don't
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: you deserve a seat? Yeah, Cleveland. I'm just saying. You
[1:54:47] Speaker 1: picked Cleveland, didn't you? Ain't nobody else over here picked Cleveland.
[1:54:52] Speaker 3: It's just the hate we was talking about. You got
[1:54:56] Speaker 3: to bring it better than that, Nick. No, we was
[1:54:58] Speaker 3: just talking about it.
[1:55:00] Speaker 7: Out of nowhere, why do you want to talk about
[1:55:02] Speaker 7: LeBron and the Lakers a week later?
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: I wasn't here when y'all was. That's your problem. I
[1:55:07] Speaker 1: had my clown outfit.
[1:55:09] Speaker 3: You wear a clown outfit. I guess I'll just pass
[1:55:12] Speaker 3: the party next time. I wasn't scheduled. I was taking
[1:55:14] Speaker 3: off the schedule. I'm just going to show up then.
[1:55:17] Speaker 3: I'm just saying I had mine last week. I had
[1:55:19] Speaker 3: the clown outfit last week. Seemed like you got yours
[1:55:21] Speaker 3: on this week with that LeBron shirt. That motherfucker out
[1:55:24] Speaker 3: of here. Oh, so he is the clown. He's out
[1:55:28] Speaker 3: of here, baby.
[1:55:29] Speaker 1: I'm out of here, buddy. Verify that quick. I'm out
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: of here. He's talking to you. You to LeBron.
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: I'm out of here. You get clutched here. Don't do that.
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: Stay on this side. I'm a Knicks fan, brother. Big
[1:55:45] Speaker 2: Knicks interview.
[1:55:46] Speaker 1: Brunson. Brunson. Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see?
[1:55:52] Speaker 4: Bruh, see?
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: Bruh, see?
[1:55:53] Speaker 3: Bruh, see?
[1:55:53] Speaker 1: Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see?
[1:56:01] Speaker 3: Bruh, see?
[1:56:01] Speaker 1: Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see? Bruh, see.
[1:56:18] Speaker 3: And we ain't playing it because last week. Kenyon's supposed
[1:56:20] Speaker 3: to be here with me. We're supposed to be doing
[1:56:22] Speaker 3: this together. Talking about last week?
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: Oh, all right. We have shifted our focus to current playoffs.
[1:56:30] Speaker 1: You know what dance that is.
[1:56:31] Speaker 8: Hey, man, y'all remember when John Moran was throwing the grenades?
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: But let's keep this moving. So, Jordan, we have you
[1:56:40] Speaker 2: on this couch. We got Warriors-Wolves meeting in the Western Semi.
[1:56:45] Speaker 2: You spent a season with the Warriors. The year before
[1:56:49] Speaker 2: they won a championship, got to play with Young Steph, Clay, Draymond.
[1:56:53] Speaker 2: What do you remember from your time with Golden State?
[1:56:55] Speaker 2: What was it like playing with that Young Splash Brothers
[1:56:56] Speaker 2: crew and Draymond?
[1:56:58] Speaker 1: Man, I remember Mark Jackson hating on the Knicks. That
[1:57:02] Speaker 1: is a fine memory to have. No, no, for sure.
[1:57:05] Speaker 3: But, I mean, you could tell that they was, when
[1:57:07] Speaker 3: I got traded there, it was me, Marshawn Brooks, Andre Godala, Steph, Clay,
[1:57:14] Speaker 3: Andrew Bogut, David Lee.
[1:57:16] Speaker 1: So you could just tell that they was on to something.
[1:57:19] Speaker 3: And Draymond was, Jermaine O'Neal, Draymond was in his second
[1:57:22] Speaker 3: year already leading and talking too much. So you could
[1:57:26] Speaker 3: just tell that they was on their way. And I
[1:57:29] Speaker 3: think Mark Jackson did a good job of motivating Steph
[1:57:33] Speaker 3: in a way. You know, because I remember Steph used
[1:57:36] Speaker 3: to not want to do one-on-one battles.
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: With Chris Paul.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: And Mark Jackson used to make them like, hey, the
[1:57:43] Speaker 3: only way we're going to beat them is if you
[1:57:44] Speaker 3: go at him. And that was, you know, that was
[1:57:47] Speaker 3: all Steph needed, for real, was that little battery in
[1:57:50] Speaker 3: his back. But you could tell they was going to
[1:57:53] Speaker 3: do all this a little bit. I mean, you didn't
[1:57:55] Speaker 3: know he was going to change the game like that.
[1:57:58] Speaker 3: But it's great to see. So even in that season there,
[1:58:01] Speaker 3: you knew the Warriors had a chance to be special?
[1:58:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. They had to play me a little more.
[1:58:05] Speaker 1: We could have won it that year. You know what
[1:58:07] Speaker 1: I'm saying? All right. But, no, you could tell that
[1:58:11] Speaker 1: it was going to be special.
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: I mean, the vibe around there, just being in the
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: Bay and the way Mark Jackson was pushing Clay and Steph,
[1:58:18] Speaker 3: you could tell that it was a little different from
[1:58:20] Speaker 3: the rest of the NBA, just the juice around there.
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: How was Mark Jackson as a coach?
[1:58:26] Speaker 3: I mean, he ain't played me, so I feel, you know,
[1:58:30] Speaker 3: everybody feel like he should be back in the NBA.
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, you got the same draw I got.
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You ain't get back in there,
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: I ain't get back in there. So that's how I
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: feel about Mike Jackson. You think your style was just
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: too early?
[1:58:42] Speaker 3: I think my personality was too much, too, because I
[1:58:47] Speaker 3: care too much about just Wanting to play.
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: Nobody can see that.
[1:58:51] Speaker 3: We can't see that from what we see, so talk
[1:58:54] Speaker 3: about that. Like, what was it about your personality that
[1:58:56] Speaker 3: made it?
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: My competitiveness.
[1:58:58] Speaker 3: I mean, like, when I was in D.C., if I
[1:59:01] Speaker 3: would have just shut it up and just been a
[1:59:03] Speaker 3: shitty-ass team and accepted it, I would have got my money.
[1:59:06] Speaker 3: But the fact that I wanted to, like, try to
[1:59:08] Speaker 3: prove something, you know, it kind of, it wasn't with
[1:59:12] Speaker 3: the program. Yeah, it's against it. Yeah, it didn't, you know,
[1:59:15] Speaker 3: it didn't make sense to them, so. That was like,
[1:59:19] Speaker 3: of course my style, the, you know, I was, I
[1:59:21] Speaker 3: felt I was a point guard and I used my
[1:59:23] Speaker 3: scoring to open up things. And I feel like that's how,
[1:59:27] Speaker 3: you know, all the six, four, six, five point guards
[1:59:29] Speaker 3: who get the ball.
[1:59:29] Speaker 1: I feel like that's, it's they time now. So I
[1:59:31] Speaker 1: do feel like.
[1:59:32] Speaker 3: I'm ahead a little bit, but I mean, even like you,
[1:59:35] Speaker 3: Steven Francis, Steve franchise, Gilbert, I mean, Baron Davis, like
[1:59:40] Speaker 3: if they would have been, if y'all had been playing now,
[1:59:42] Speaker 3: I feel like that's the same thing at the point.
[1:59:44] Speaker 3: Like it had been ugly, you know? Just the freedom
[1:59:47] Speaker 3: of what you get to play with. Yeah, definitely. Definitely,
[1:59:52] Speaker 3: it was like a little more personal. Because Instagram and
[1:59:55] Speaker 3: social media had just came out, too. It was a
[1:59:57] Speaker 3: better time. Yeah, I was doing funny stuff. Yeah, I
[2:00:00] Speaker 3: was already on that. But they didn't like that.
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: Early. Yeah, just kind of. Too early. They didn't like
[2:00:06] Speaker 1: that shit. A little bit.
[2:00:08] Speaker 2: So after your NBA career, you had a successful international career,
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: like I mentioned, averaging 43 points per game in the
[2:00:14] Speaker 2: Chinese Basketball Association.
[2:00:15] Speaker 1: Go ahead, Swank. What you think of all this one-on-one stuff? Like,
[2:00:18] Speaker 1: why nobody ain't called you out?
[2:00:21] Speaker 3: Nah, they calling me. I just need to get, you know,
[2:00:23] Speaker 3: I just need to get paid what I weigh.
[2:00:25] Speaker 7: You feel me? Like, if I'm going to do a one-on-one... Versus, like,
[2:00:29] Speaker 7: you think you could play Stevenson.
[2:00:31] Speaker 1: With me, man?
[2:00:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I could play anybody, honestly. I just
[2:00:34] Speaker 3: need to get paid for it. I ain't never really,
[2:00:36] Speaker 3: you know, I ain't get my second check in the league. So, yeah, so,
[2:00:42] Speaker 3: I ain't just going for the 10K or the I
[2:00:44] Speaker 3: need the whole thing.
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: But I love to go jump.
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: I love that, just like the big three, anything that's
[2:00:52] Speaker 3: basketball in the United States, I feel like it's a
[2:00:54] Speaker 3: time for it to pop off. That's why I'm even relevant,
[2:00:58] Speaker 3: because I went and did the crew league, the TBT,
[2:01:01] Speaker 3: the big three. I done did shit that necessarily an
[2:01:07] Speaker 3: NBA player wouldn't do, but it didn't kept me relevant.
[2:01:10] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Facts.
[2:01:13] Speaker 3: I love to jump in and you just gotta, it
[2:01:15] Speaker 3: was hard for me keeping my name even relevant. So,
[2:01:17] Speaker 3: you know, for me to jump in and you gonna
[2:01:19] Speaker 3: have to give me some bread.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: Well, you back here on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: We'll keep your name relevant. Appreciate that. So, yeah, successful
[2:01:26] Speaker 2: international career. Also played in the Big Three on the
[2:01:29] Speaker 2: enemy squad. Coached by our very own Swaggy.
[2:01:32] Speaker 1: Yep. Yes. Still got to be still good. He took
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: over for Gil. It was L.A. Ride.
[2:01:36] Speaker 5: L.A.
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: Ride.
[2:01:37] Speaker 5: L.A.
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: Ride. Okay. But Swaggy Pete took over for Gil. He
[2:01:41] Speaker 1: changed it. Guided your team to a championship. L.A. team. L.A. team.
[2:01:45] Speaker 1: I didn't want the... The enemies had too much Gibralt Arena.
[2:01:49] Speaker 1: Is there a new enemy? Oh, okay. Is there a
[2:01:50] Speaker 1: new enemies? Ain't no more enemies.
[2:01:52] Speaker 7: You the enemy, motherfucker.
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: You the enemy. Ain't no more enemies. What's y'all colors?
[2:02:01] Speaker 7: Black and red.
[2:02:05] Speaker 1: Ain't no more enemies. Jordan, what's Waggy P like as
[2:02:08] Speaker 1: a head coach? Oh, man. First, we're going to see
[2:02:11] Speaker 1: if he show up. Then if he show up, he
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: be coaching.
[2:02:16] Speaker 3: He be coaching. He keep us all in line. He
[2:02:19] Speaker 3: say the shit to me that no other players going
[2:02:22] Speaker 3: to say. He keep me in check.
[2:02:24] Speaker 2: What kind of things does he say to you?
[2:02:28] Speaker 3: He say, hey man, you can't be scaring the players
[2:02:30] Speaker 3: like that, man.
[2:02:31] Speaker 1: He say shit like.
[2:02:32] Speaker 7: Because they young and they sensitives.
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: And I go a little too far, so. Yeah, a
[2:02:38] Speaker 1: little too hard. He a good player's coach. I'd rather
[2:02:40] Speaker 1: play for him than any coach in the big three.
[2:02:42] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Okay. Even any other coach
[2:02:45] Speaker 1: on this team. Okay, swag. Hey, my dog. That's why
[2:02:47] Speaker 1: you getting the big money, man. Gil, you were also
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: a coach.
[2:02:50] Speaker 4: We're not even talking about the money. Gil, also a
[2:02:54] Speaker 4: coach in the big three. You started it, though. You
[2:02:58] Speaker 4: started it, though, Gil. Let me get some doubt. I
[2:03:00] Speaker 4: appreciate it. Nah, y'all don't know. You rebound for me, too.
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: You lucky. I ain't never said I wasn't faithful. No,
[2:03:11] Speaker 1: you lucky. I remember a time. I remember a time
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: when we was going through the draft process.
[2:03:19] Speaker 4: And you didn't want not nail one of the niggas
[2:03:21] Speaker 4: that you got.
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: I didn't know. You didn't want one eye. I got
[2:03:25] Speaker 1: a nigga with one eye on my teeth. You didn't
[2:03:27] Speaker 1: want him. You didn't want nobody. I didn't know what
[2:03:30] Speaker 1: the what? Never mind. Never mind. I heard what he said.
[2:03:33] Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. The
[2:03:35] Speaker 1: second year.
[2:03:37] Speaker 8: Though, like the first year, the second year when I
[2:03:40] Speaker 8: was like, yo.
[2:03:41] Speaker 1: You're going to be like kind of the coach. He's like, oh, man,
[2:03:44] Speaker 1: I still want to play, man, so don't have this, brother.
[2:03:46] Speaker 1: Don't have Robert on there. I ain't never said no
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: shit like that. You a lying ass, boy. You a
[2:03:52] Speaker 1: lying ass. I ain't never said that. When I got there,
[2:03:55] Speaker 1: I had to say that. The team you wanted? Nigga,
[2:03:59] Speaker 1: I didn't know he was playing. I know you didn't
[2:04:01] Speaker 1: know he was playing. I know you didn't know he
[2:04:03] Speaker 1: was playing. I know you didn't know he was playing.
[2:04:04] Speaker 1: Until he played with me. Because you wasn't the coach, bitch. Hey, man,
[2:04:08] Speaker 1: draft my boy.
[2:04:09] Speaker 4: How many people you wanted me to draft off that
[2:04:12] Speaker 4: sorry ass most wanted team?
[2:04:14] Speaker 1: I don't know. We still got Elijah. It worked out. No,
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: we have Elijah. It worked out. And then who else?
[2:04:18] Speaker 1: Who else? You picked Isaiah, man. No, no, no, no.
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: Isaiah turned out cool. I'm talking about my team. I'm
[2:04:23] Speaker 1: talking about my team that won the championship. The left-hand guard.
[2:04:28] Speaker 1: I'm talking about the team that won the championship for me. No,
[2:04:30] Speaker 1: the left hand. Say his name.
[2:04:31] Speaker 3: Say his name.
[2:04:32] Speaker 1: Left hand. Left hand. Most wanted, left hand. Zach, what? No, left-handed. Yeah.
[2:04:38] Speaker 1: He's left-handed. He can shoot the three. We had him.
[2:04:41] Speaker 8: We had him, and you wanted to make him a main. Oh,
[2:04:44] Speaker 8: I forgot.
[2:04:45] Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh. I don't know his name. I don't know.
[2:04:48] Speaker 1: Let me get a shout out to him. Sex, sex. Sex, sex, sex, sex.
[2:04:52] Speaker 1: That's what we wanted. That's what we wanted. That's what
[2:04:55] Speaker 1: we wanted.
[2:04:55] Speaker 3: And I'm like, hell no.
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he wanted. I didn't know. I didn't
[2:05:02] Speaker 1: know he was playing. I thought he was in China
[2:05:03] Speaker 1: or some shit. It worked out. We didn't get into
[2:05:05] Speaker 1: that story another day, man. No, no, I thought he
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: was in China. I swear. And once he came on
[2:05:10] Speaker 1: our team that day, that one time, that's when I
[2:05:12] Speaker 1: was like, oh, man. We ain't doing that. We ain't
[2:05:14] Speaker 1: doing that. Brother, this is the second year. They trying
[2:05:16] Speaker 1: to split us up. I know.
[2:05:17] Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the first year, I just did
[2:05:19] Speaker 3: some replacement guys.
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: That's what I thought you was saying. Yeah, the replacement.
[2:05:22] Speaker 1: I was a replacement ass man. And then that second year,
[2:05:23] Speaker 1: going into the draft, I got to say, I got
[2:05:25] Speaker 1: to make him a captain. Man, where the balls at?
[2:05:28] Speaker 1: I didn't say no back. It was the third year.
[2:05:30] Speaker 3: He wanted to get rid of it, bro. I was
[2:05:32] Speaker 3: plotting on the big three, though. I was looking at,
[2:05:34] Speaker 3: you know, Trilogy when Rashad and them won.
[2:05:36] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Get some love to Rashad
[2:05:38] Speaker 1: and the Trilogies.
[2:05:39] Speaker 3: Then Joe Johnson, he put a stamp on it.
[2:05:43] Speaker 1: No, it made it legitimate, though. They were talking about it.
[2:05:46] Speaker 1: I seen that. We made it live, though. They don't
[2:05:48] Speaker 1: want to play us. I was there that first year
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: with Joe Johnson. We can do what?
[2:05:52] Speaker 8: We can do a side 303.
[2:05:54] Speaker 1: Joe Johnson stamped that shit. We can do another three-on-three
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: against them if they want to play.
[2:05:59] Speaker 3: You know, but we made it kind of cool. Made
[2:06:02] Speaker 3: the young people like it a little bit. So I'm
[2:06:04] Speaker 3: appreciative of the position. You going to play again? Yeah,
[2:06:08] Speaker 3: excited to. Who y'all got now? It's me, Dwight, Elijah.
[2:06:13] Speaker 3: Hopefully we pick two more good guys.
[2:06:16] Speaker 1: It's y'all three? Yeah. That's five, baby. You all? You playing?
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: You in the pool? You're about to make a return?
[2:06:27] Speaker 1: You ain't fucking around. You ain't trying to play.
[2:06:32] Speaker 3: You're America's most wanted right now. They put some money
[2:06:34] Speaker 3: on your head, man.
[2:06:37] Speaker 1: There's a huge risk to collect it.
[2:06:40] Speaker 2: Respect. You have former Hoopers. You have battle rappers. You
[2:06:44] Speaker 2: have a lot of different stuff going on.
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: They all tried. They all have failed. Dominating Twitter battle
[2:06:49] Speaker 1: rap bitch. Who's next? Who's next? Who's next? Ray Felton.
[2:06:55] Speaker 1: That's why they said Ray Felton playing. I thought about
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: picking him too. Nah, I ain't a fan. I ain't
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: a fan. I thought about doing it just because.
[2:07:09] Speaker 2: Both of them were We wasn't friends when we won
[2:07:12] Speaker 2: the first time.
[2:07:13] Speaker 1: Shit, we're just going to win again. Nigga, pass me
[2:07:15] Speaker 1: the ball. I'm going to score. Move out the way.
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: Do what you did back then. Pass and move. History
[2:07:33] Speaker 1: repeating itself.
[2:07:34] Speaker 2: Swaggy bringing his championship experience to head coaching. Speaking of
[2:07:38] Speaker 2: head coaches, Cavs head coach Kenny Atkinson was named coach
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: of the year. Let's take a look.
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: What's his name?
[2:07:47] Speaker 5: Who?
[2:07:47] Speaker 1: The North Carolina dude. There's a lot of y'all. I
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: forgot his name. We all forgot his name. Let's keep
[2:08:00] Speaker 1: this moving.
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: Cavs head coach Kenny Atkinson was named coach of the year.
[2:08:05] Speaker 2: Let's take a look if we can, Paolo, with that
[2:08:08] Speaker 2: particular clip at our disposal. He received 59 out of
[2:08:11] Speaker 2: a possible 100 first place votes beating out J.B. Bickerstaff
[2:08:16] Speaker 2: of the Pistons and Imei Idoka of the Rockets. Atkinson
[2:08:19] Speaker 2: led the Cavs to 64 wins in the number one
[2:08:21] Speaker 2: seed in the Eastern Conference. A very remarkable jump for
[2:08:26] Speaker 2: the Cavs going from fourth to first. But you also
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: had Bickerstaff, Pistons, historic year. I think tripled their win
[2:08:32] Speaker 2: total from the previous year. Ema Adoka leading the Rockets
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: to the two seed in the Western Conference, which you
[2:08:36] Speaker 2: guys have all said is the varsity conference in the NBA.
[2:08:39] Speaker 2: So do you agree with Kenny Atkinson winning coach of
[2:08:41] Speaker 2: the year over J.B. Bickerstaff and Ema Adoka?
[2:08:45] Speaker 1: What was... Detroit last year in the standings? Detroit was...
[2:08:49] Speaker 1: They didn't even make it. 10th? No, they were, I think,
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: 14th or 15th. Whoa.
[2:08:55] Speaker 2: Last, 14 to 68 last year. 15th in the East.
[2:08:58] Speaker 2: Doka should have won that. Jumped up to 6th in
[2:09:00] Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference.
[2:09:01] Speaker 4: In Doka, whatever. 14 wins last season. 44 wins this season.
[2:09:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, but they went on that crazy, like, winning streak, though.
[2:09:09] Speaker 1: They went on a crazy winning streak, though. You wasn't
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, and you jumped to the, what,
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: third seed? Rockets were 11th last year, 41-41. They're second? Oh, yes. Damn, see,
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: he could have got it too.
[2:09:22] Speaker 4: Jumped up to second in the Western Conference with a
[2:09:24] Speaker 4: record of 52-30, plus 11 improvement.
[2:09:27] Speaker 1: That's crazy, and especially after what happened in the situation.
[2:09:32] Speaker 1: Caliber 48-34 last year, 64-18. I think.
[2:09:37] Speaker 6: 64 and 18 is crazy. It's crazy. That's crazy. We
[2:09:43] Speaker 6: won 30 more games? This has won 30 more games.
[2:09:47] Speaker 6: I believe the Rockets won 11 more games.
[2:09:49] Speaker 1: Cavs, they won... Let me do the math again. Fucking up. Damn.
[2:09:57] Speaker 1: 16 more games.
[2:09:58] Speaker 3: Not a lot of credit being given to a man
[2:10:00] Speaker 3: who has two teams in the playoffs.
[2:10:03] Speaker 1: And....
[2:10:05] Speaker 3: Forged relationships with both sides, one quicker than the other, Detroit, Cleveland.
[2:10:12] Speaker 10: And you look at E-May, he go down to Houston.
[2:10:17] Speaker 10: It's a shit show.
[2:10:20] Speaker 1: For real. Shit show.
[2:10:21] Speaker 3: But he put his imprint as a player on that team,
[2:10:25] Speaker 3: which is also why he needs some offensive assistant coaches
[2:10:30] Speaker 3: to offset what he's so good at, which is the
[2:10:32] Speaker 3: identity of their team, is how he played. Defensive mindset,
[2:10:35] Speaker 3: play hustle, strategy, Popovich, all that.
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: But he needs an offensive side.
[2:10:41] Speaker 10: He's going to get Jalen Green more shots. He's going
[2:10:44] Speaker 10: to get Easton more shots, Jabari Smith more shots, get
[2:10:47] Speaker 10: those guys involved. But I think between him and JB,
[2:10:52] Speaker 10: they've done more than the finale. It should be a
[2:10:54] Speaker 10: co-coach of the year between them two.
[2:10:56] Speaker 1: Have they ever been a co-coach of the year? Can
[2:11:00] Speaker 1: they do that? I'll disagree with that. I'm rolling. Kenny
[2:11:03] Speaker 1: did a great job, though. He put them in position. Yeah.
[2:11:06] Speaker 1: But it ain't his team. It ain't his team? It
[2:11:09] Speaker 1: ain't his team. You think he curved it? Yeah. Plus
[2:11:17] Speaker 1: 16 win improvement. Number one team in the Eastern Conference.
[2:11:20] Speaker 1: 3-12 game winning streaks. Started out 15-0. Started out 15-0. No,
[2:11:25] Speaker 1: that's crazy.
[2:11:31] Speaker 4: You could have gave it to anyone.
[2:11:35] Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have complained.
[2:11:37] Speaker 4: But, I mean, Cavs, I mean, no one believed that
[2:11:40] Speaker 4: they were going to keep the number one seed the
[2:11:43] Speaker 4: whole year.
[2:11:45] Speaker 1: Like, when they was on winning streaks, no one gave
[2:11:47] Speaker 1: a fuck. Right?
[2:11:49] Speaker 4: So, you know, the fact that they did win 68 games.
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: You know, that's, you know, Rockets 44. I mean, you
[2:11:59] Speaker 1: know what I mean?
[2:12:00] Speaker 4: It's 44-48 is not really, you know, so, I mean,
[2:12:06] Speaker 4: you know, the right person got it. I mean, it's
[2:12:07] Speaker 4: not like it was a landslide. It was only 59
[2:12:10] Speaker 4: out of 100, you know.
[2:12:13] Speaker 1: It was tough. But y'all are good with that.
[2:12:17] Speaker 7: If this was like 2005, they would have had a
[2:12:19] Speaker 7: clean sweep. They would have had an MVP, too.
[2:12:23] Speaker 1: MVP? If it was 2005, why you say that? It's
[2:12:26] Speaker 1: like the Suns. They would have had a defensive player
[2:12:29] Speaker 1: of the year, coach of the year, and MVP. Donovan
[2:12:33] Speaker 1: Mitchell would have been MVP? Yeah. I don't know. Nah.
[2:12:40] Speaker 1: You want to give it to him or Shea? I
[2:12:43] Speaker 1: think Shea would have been MVP then for sure. Nah,
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: is that exactly what he's saying? Because they came out
[2:12:47] Speaker 1: of nowhere to be the number one seed. Who? Shea,
[2:12:49] Speaker 1: number one. Kobe's numbers was crazy. Yeah, but Kobe wasn't
[2:12:51] Speaker 1: number one though. Shea was number one. So is Donovan. Yeah,
[2:13:01] Speaker 1: so is... Right, but so is Shea in them. Shea's
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: averaging over 30.
[2:13:03] Speaker 10: They got coach of the year, defensive player of the year,
[2:13:06] Speaker 10: and they star player has regulated his game so the
[2:13:09] Speaker 10: team can be number one.
[2:13:11] Speaker 1: That's Steve Nash. That was the Steve Nash. One was
[2:13:14] Speaker 1: number one and Steve number one. That was my Steve Nash.
[2:13:17] Speaker 1: But is Donovan Mitchell playing like an MVP?
[2:13:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:13:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, why wouldn't he be? Why wouldn't he be? Oh,
[2:13:22] Speaker 1: you want him to be flashy and shit? No, I'm
[2:13:23] Speaker 1: just saying, is he playing like an MVP? Like, is
[2:13:25] Speaker 1: he playing like... The best player on the... You said
[2:13:28] Speaker 1: he could not be the best player on the winning team.
[2:13:31] Speaker 1: On the championship team. That's what you said. Is it
[2:13:33] Speaker 1: not a championship team? We'll see. No. I'm asking you
[2:13:37] Speaker 1: right now. 68 wins is not a championship team? Yeah,
[2:13:41] Speaker 1: they had a good season. But we're about to see
[2:13:43] Speaker 1: now in the playoffs if they're a championship team. I mean,
[2:13:46] Speaker 1: the only reason they didn't win.
[2:13:47] Speaker 6: I mean, didn't you just say if you make it
[2:13:48] Speaker 6: to the championship and don't win, it's not a championship team?
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: Last year, was the Boston Celtics a championship team last year? Yes,
[2:13:55] Speaker 1: they won, right? No, before they won, going to be,
[2:13:58] Speaker 1: going up, will we consider them to be a championship team?
[2:14:01] Speaker 6: You told me if a team gets to the championship
[2:14:03] Speaker 6: and they don't win it, that's not a successful season
[2:14:05] Speaker 6: or a championship team.
[2:14:06] Speaker 1: Did you not say that? Correct. Okay. So we don't
[2:14:09] Speaker 1: know until they get there. Do they look like a
[2:14:12] Speaker 1: championship team? No, not right now. Cleveland Cavaliers do not
[2:14:16] Speaker 1: look like a championship team. No, they just lost.
[2:14:21] Speaker 6: So until they win it, until they get to the
[2:14:23] Speaker 6: finals and win it, then we'll see.
[2:14:25] Speaker 4: When Steve Nash won his MVP, the team won 29
[2:14:28] Speaker 4: games the year before, and they just added him, and
[2:14:32] Speaker 4: he won 62.
[2:14:34] Speaker 1: But it wouldn't matter. That was the big jump from
[2:14:38] Speaker 1: that team. What was Cleveland's spot last year? Fourth, I think, right?
[2:14:42] Speaker 1: So you're jumping from four to one.
[2:14:43] Speaker 4: No, no, but fourth, and it was fourth because Donovan
[2:14:46] Speaker 4: Mitchell was hurt majority of the year.
[2:14:48] Speaker 1: But still, you're fourth.
[2:14:49] Speaker 4: Because remember, he didn't get to make the NBA team
[2:14:52] Speaker 4: because he didn't play. So he missed a lot of games,
[2:14:54] Speaker 4: and they still made fourth.
[2:14:56] Speaker 1: But you're fourth.
[2:14:58] Speaker 7: And the team that you beat out won the championship,
[2:15:01] Speaker 7: and you jumped them. So that would give him the edge.
[2:15:06] Speaker 7: There's Garland over there, too, now.
[2:15:07] Speaker 1: 29-62. Jared Garland. He's good. He's an all-star. He's a
[2:15:14] Speaker 1: big part of that success. That's why I said they
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: don't look like a championship team right now. They ain't got...
[2:15:18] Speaker 1: There's Garland.
[2:15:20] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, is Kenny Atkinson the right
[2:15:22] Speaker 2: pick for coach of the year? 44% said yes. 35%
[2:15:25] Speaker 2: thought J.B. Bickerstaff should have got it. 20% thought Ema
[2:15:28] Speaker 2: Edoka should have got it. So let's take a look
[2:15:30] Speaker 2: at the brackets to see where the Cavs stand in
[2:15:32] Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference right now.
[2:15:37] Speaker 1: Ain't gonna need Garland.
[2:15:38] Speaker 2: Took that game one loss to the Pacers. Darius Garland
[2:15:41] Speaker 2: missed the Cavs' last three playoff games with a sprained
[2:15:43] Speaker 2: left big toe. Listed as questionable for game two against
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: the Pacers. Evan Mobley, DeAndre Hunter will also be listed
[2:15:50] Speaker 2: as questionable with ankle and thumb injuries respectively. Kenny Atkinson
[2:15:53] Speaker 2: initially said that they were doubtful, but it's shifted. So questionable.
[2:15:59] Speaker 2: Y'all got that bracket for the West? We do have
[2:16:02] Speaker 2: that bracket available for the Western Conference.
[2:16:04] Speaker 1: Oh, God, that looks so nice. The mini Lakers, baby.
[2:16:07] Speaker 1: We playing Golden State tonight. Let's go. Go, Ant-Man. Ant-Man.
[2:16:16] Speaker 1: I got Ant-Man. Ant-Man tonight? Yeah. It's in Minnesota too, right? Yeah.
[2:16:20] Speaker 1: It's in Minnesota.
[2:16:22] Speaker 4: That's the face right there. What's up with, I mean,
[2:16:26] Speaker 4: what's the name, coming back, Garland?
[2:16:30] Speaker 1: He's questionable for the night. There was talk that that
[2:16:32] Speaker 1: toe was messed up. Oh, it is?
[2:16:34] Speaker 2: That's what reports have been, but there are also reports
[2:16:36] Speaker 2: saying he would try to make a return game, too.
[2:16:38] Speaker 1: What is it? Sprain? Sprain left.
[2:16:40] Speaker 4: Oh, you got to put that plate in and shit.
[2:16:43] Speaker 4: Does that plate help? It stops you from bending it.
[2:16:46] Speaker 4: But is that.
[2:16:47] Speaker 1: Yes. It should, yeah. The plate don't really do shit.
[2:16:51] Speaker 1: It stops you from moving, but... Is it worth playing
[2:16:54] Speaker 1: with the plate in your shoe that don't let your
[2:16:56] Speaker 1: foot bend? Yeah. Or take a cortisone. Oh, yeah, because
[2:16:59] Speaker 1: you're going to need something for it.
[2:17:00] Speaker 4: You're going to take a cortisone, but you lose your mobility.
[2:17:04] Speaker 1: So you ain't going to feel shit. He played, too. Oh, yeah,
[2:17:09] Speaker 1: he needed it. Yeah, yeah. That's so important. Yeah, yeah.
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: You know that shit, Black. That's the old dark Black.
[2:17:24] Speaker 2: So how worried should the Cavs be about the injuries
[2:17:26] Speaker 2: to Garland, Mobley, and Hunter, especially considering.
[2:17:28] Speaker 1: That they lost game one? Oh, Mobley too? Yeah.
[2:17:32] Speaker 4: Mobley and Hunter got injured on back-to-back possession in the
[2:17:34] Speaker 4: fourth quarter of the game one loss.
[2:17:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, they need them.
[2:17:38] Speaker 3: I mean, Indiana got a little swagger with them too
[2:17:42] Speaker 3: right now. That's going to be hard to just fight off.
[2:17:46] Speaker 1: Tyrese, he using that.
[2:17:50] Speaker 3: Overrated shit to turn him up a little bit. It's
[2:17:53] Speaker 3: going to be hard to beat them. I think they're
[2:17:55] Speaker 3: going to whoop their ass.
[2:17:55] Speaker 1: It's going to be hard.
[2:17:57] Speaker 7: I think Cleveland will just focus on Boston and the
[2:18:02] Speaker 7: underestimate of what we'll see today.
[2:18:04] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:18:06] Speaker 6: You can't underestimate a team that went to the East
[2:18:08] Speaker 6: Conference Finals last year.
[2:18:09] Speaker 1: Well, it's Indiana. It's the guys that.
[2:18:11] Speaker 7: Cleveland kind of.
[2:18:13] Speaker 3: They relying on some guys that I just don't know about.
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I like Donovan. But then
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: with you, I forgot my guy. Jerome. Yeah. Hunter. He
[2:18:24] Speaker 1: got a little too. Ty Jerome. I like him. But
[2:18:28] Speaker 1: you can't rely on him yet. You know. You got to.
[2:18:30] Speaker 1: You need him, though. You need him. They're like, Derek White. Like,
[2:18:34] Speaker 1: wait a minute, bro. Right? Wait a minute. Relax, man. But.
[2:18:39] Speaker 1: It's over for him. No, Garland, you need him.
[2:18:41] Speaker 4: It's over.
[2:18:42] Speaker 1: I know you do, but. You need him. Gentlemen, sweet.
[2:18:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they don't get so they don't get
[2:18:48] Speaker 3: them boys back in two games.
[2:18:49] Speaker 1: It's a gentleman.
[2:18:51] Speaker 3: I would love to play against Hunter and Mobley hurt.
[2:18:57] Speaker 1: Yep. Like if they don't play tonight or they do tonight,
[2:19:01] Speaker 1: they go down to always nasty. It's over there. Good luck.
[2:19:04] Speaker 1: This is a healthy person. If it was a healthy Cavs,
[2:19:07] Speaker 1: they can't afford nobody. We're not talking about but they're
[2:19:09] Speaker 1: not actually healthy. Not healthy. Yeah, it was healthy.
[2:19:12] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. Mitchell Biden. No, no. No, it's Mitchell out there
[2:19:16] Speaker 1: trying to take that one on that. He got it.
[2:19:19] Speaker 1: He got it. Personal, though. Yeah, but he played different
[2:19:22] Speaker 1: when it's another point guard. That's like. You try to
[2:19:25] Speaker 1: rely on the rest of your teammates. This is not.
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: This is not it. But he shot like 30.
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: You need your point guard to do that. You rely
[2:19:32] Speaker 4: on you and your point guard rely on everybody else.
[2:19:34] Speaker 4: If you're trying to say, all right, I'm going to
[2:19:36] Speaker 4: take away my score to then give them the ball,
[2:19:39] Speaker 4: that becomes a problem. If he has 10 assists, 15 shots,
[2:19:44] Speaker 4: they're not winning.
[2:19:46] Speaker 1: I know.
[2:19:46] Speaker 10: But they have to be hitting for them to win.
[2:19:49] Speaker 10: That's kind of what he did all year. Sacrifice all year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:19:52] Speaker 10: But that's what I was saying about him, him doing
[2:19:55] Speaker 10: that all year. puts him in a very bad spot
[2:19:58] Speaker 10: now because they're looking at you like, now take all
[2:20:01] Speaker 10: the shots. And you're still trying to play team ball
[2:20:03] Speaker 10: because it's already imprinted in your mind. So I look
[2:20:08] Speaker 10: at it now like they don't got a chance because
[2:20:11] Speaker 10: we can key in on the things y'all lack. And
[2:20:14] Speaker 10: I always said to the homie, y'all need all the
[2:20:17] Speaker 10: players healthy.
[2:20:18] Speaker 3: Y'all need Hunter at 100%. You need Todd Jerome hitting
[2:20:21] Speaker 3: at all cylinders. You need Okoro coming in there playing
[2:20:24] Speaker 3: fast points. If anybody have an off game, it's off.
[2:20:28] Speaker 1: It's off. Shrew's got to hit.
[2:20:29] Speaker 3: Everybody's got to be hitting on all cylinders.
[2:20:31] Speaker 1: I mean, it seems crazy as shit. As long as
[2:20:34] Speaker 1: you have... No.
[2:20:36] Speaker 4: But I'm saying, as long as you have Mobley, healthy,
[2:20:39] Speaker 4: you good.
[2:20:40] Speaker 1: But if him and Garland's out... Nah. And Hunter. And Hunter.
[2:20:46] Speaker 1: Hunter is a big piece for them, though.
[2:20:48] Speaker 7: Steph has some PE teachers out there with him playing
[2:20:51] Speaker 7: by himself against Houston that one game.
[2:20:53] Speaker 1: PE teachers? They do. Rolf. Yeah, but Steph are different.
[2:20:59] Speaker 1: Steph effect is a thing a little bit. It's a
[2:21:03] Speaker 1: thing a little bit.
[2:21:04] Speaker 3: But that's why they always struggling because they do be
[2:21:06] Speaker 3: playing with a whole bunch of, like, who is this?
[2:21:09] Speaker 1: Got a whole bunch of caddies with him. It's too many.
[2:21:13] Speaker 7: They still pull back. It was a game three, something
[2:21:17] Speaker 7: like that.
[2:21:18] Speaker 1: Got his golf buddy with him.
[2:21:19] Speaker 3: But even if there was somebody that you recognize, they
[2:21:21] Speaker 3: still going to be running around like the rest of
[2:21:23] Speaker 3: the motherfuckers out there looking the same way. Now, Steph
[2:21:26] Speaker 3: got to go one more. Steph don't go one-on-one enough
[2:21:29] Speaker 3: no more. You see what happened with him in time?
[2:21:32] Speaker 3: I feel it. He got to run.
[2:21:34] Speaker 1: He be doing so much. That's why they got rid
[2:21:36] Speaker 1: of Jordan Poole, though. But that's why they got Buddy Hill, though. Listen,
[2:21:43] Speaker 1: Buddy Hill ain't seen a shot he ain't like. I
[2:21:46] Speaker 1: like it.
[2:21:46] Speaker 3: Y'all ain't see the reason why he had that game, though, right?
[2:21:51] Speaker 3: You got to get a nigga off you one time.
[2:21:52] Speaker 3: You got to just let him know about it.
[2:21:54] Speaker 1: He did. He did against, what's his name, at the
[2:21:57] Speaker 1: top of the key? That was a big. No, no,
[2:22:00] Speaker 1: he had green at the top of the key. Boom, boom, boom.
[2:22:02] Speaker 1: Step back. Bye-bye.
[2:22:04] Speaker 8: It's that alien that be guarding him. You got to
[2:22:07] Speaker 8: keep him off. You got to set a whole bunch
[2:22:10] Speaker 8: of backpacks. Set them picks in the backcourt.
[2:22:12] Speaker 1: Fuck that. Just get them off me, God damn.
[2:22:16] Speaker 4: All right, well, let's shift over. He's going to run
[2:22:17] Speaker 4: out of energy. It's like at halftime, he's subbing the
[2:22:19] Speaker 4: other twin.
[2:22:21] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:22:22] Speaker 2: They don't play in the same time. They don't play
[2:22:23] Speaker 2: in the same time. So, Ant-Man, Timberwolves, Hope, Chef, Curry,
[2:22:28] Speaker 2: and the Warriors in game one of the Western Conference semis.
[2:22:30] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the West Brackets again to
[2:22:32] Speaker 2: see where things stand. I'm sure I know this will
[2:22:34] Speaker 2: make you very happy. But six versus seven matchup in Minnesota. So,
[2:22:40] Speaker 2: Nuggets lead the Thunder 1-0. Timberwolves kick off action tonight.
[2:22:44] Speaker 2: Who are you taking in the Wolves-Warriors and in how
[2:22:46] Speaker 2: many games?
[2:22:47] Speaker 1: Lakers in five.
[2:22:49] Speaker 4: Lakers are not currently in the playoffs. What's the name
[2:22:51] Speaker 4: of the Minnesota? The Minneapolis Lakers.
[2:22:54] Speaker 1: Okay. Where their birthplace. Come on, man. Let's get it right.
[2:22:59] Speaker 1: Lakers in five. Come on, guys. Play along. I am
[2:23:02] Speaker 1: a basketball historian. Lakers in five. I know what I'm doing, man.
[2:23:06] Speaker 1: Come on, Ant-Man. They didn't have the Minneapolis Lakers. I'm
[2:23:13] Speaker 1: going to go Warriors 6 or 7. You're going to
[2:23:16] Speaker 1: go Warriors? I got the MPL. I can't bet. I
[2:23:18] Speaker 1: don't want to go against the Warriors. I can't bet
[2:23:20] Speaker 1: against that, man. But I would like to see.
[2:23:24] Speaker 7: I feel like Ant-Man is on the, like, he want
[2:23:26] Speaker 7: to go at all, like, the kings. Like, cut their
[2:23:31] Speaker 7: heads off. LeBron, KD. And that's like some little brother shit. Like,
[2:23:36] Speaker 7: you can't wait to be able to beat your big
[2:23:38] Speaker 7: brother type shit. So I feel like he motivated for that.
[2:23:41] Speaker 7: And I want to see how you play against Jimmy Butler.
[2:23:44] Speaker 7: Because Jimmy Butler made a nigga green go for it.
[2:23:48] Speaker 1: I'm going Wolves in seven.
[2:23:56] Speaker 3: I'm going Ant-Man. Even though I like the Warriors team.
[2:23:59] Speaker 3: It's an even series. I got to go with the
[2:24:03] Speaker 3: energy that Ant bring, man.
[2:24:04] Speaker 1: That aura. I think that trumps all. I think it
[2:24:08] Speaker 1: trumps all. Yeah, it does for me. That's why I
[2:24:11] Speaker 1: was mad they played the Lakers, man. Gilbert Arena. I
[2:24:14] Speaker 1: did not want to see. I'm going for Ant-Man, Curry,
[2:24:19] Speaker 1: and June Butler. Right? Mm-hmm.
[2:24:25] Speaker 4: I'm going to see how Rudy did against Draymond.
[2:24:29] Speaker 2: Protect your neck, Rudy. I'm rooting for those three. It's
[2:24:34] Speaker 2: not great blue.
[2:24:34] Speaker 1: You said it was crazy.
[2:24:37] Speaker 2: You know, nigga Chucky, you gotta see him again. He's
[2:24:39] Speaker 2: gonna be some lingering PTSD.
[2:24:41] Speaker 1: I see it. You know what I mean? Like, Rudy
[2:24:42] Speaker 1: gonna have to come out, like, dunking that motherfucker in
[2:24:44] Speaker 1: the first plate. I don't see it. Because if you.
[2:24:47] Speaker 4: Just let him, over time, just keep knacking at you, yeah,
[2:24:51] Speaker 4: he going to fuck you up. Like, you got a first-play, like,
[2:24:53] Speaker 4: goaltending shit, throw it back at his face or something.
[2:24:56] Speaker 1: I don't see Draymond letting Rudy score. And that's the problem.
[2:25:00] Speaker 1: You got to. I don't.
[2:25:02] Speaker 8: Because Draymond, there's this much away from getting kicked out
[2:25:05] Speaker 8: the series, so you might as well just sacrifice yourself.
[2:25:08] Speaker 1: They can't win without Draymond. So, Rudy, listen.
[2:25:11] Speaker 4: You better just, hey, I'll go in there and start
[2:25:13] Speaker 4: doing little shit like this.
[2:25:14] Speaker 1: Let him do all this extra shit. He'll lose it.
[2:25:16] Speaker 1: Kick us both out. That's a fact. That's a fact, dog.
[2:25:21] Speaker 1: That's a fact. Now, listen. That's a great plan.
[2:25:24] Speaker 10: Ed Edwards has had a talk with Rudy, and he said, listen,
[2:25:28] Speaker 10: we're not ever going to have that problem again because
[2:25:31] Speaker 10: you made me look soft, and I ain't having that shit.
[2:25:35] Speaker 10: So when these niggas come in here and they think
[2:25:37] Speaker 10: they own that shit, I'm going, hey, McDaniels, come here. Jew,
[2:25:41] Speaker 10: come here, man. We ain't had you last time. That
[2:25:44] Speaker 10: nigga try that shit again, man. We all standing up.
[2:25:46] Speaker 1: What's up? Ain't no more leaving Rudy on no island.
[2:25:49] Speaker 3: We got to show them the energy that we not
[2:25:51] Speaker 3: having that no more because that's what beat us.
[2:25:53] Speaker 1: For sure.
[2:25:54] Speaker 3: I'm not having that. I think on that energy because
[2:25:57] Speaker 3: that's true leadership. Like, nah, listen, him taking a shot
[2:26:01] Speaker 3: at Rudy is taking a shot at me. And listen, Rudy,
[2:26:04] Speaker 3: I need.
[2:26:04] Speaker 1: You to fight back, nigga.
[2:26:06] Speaker 2: I think Draymond has two more techs to play with
[2:26:09] Speaker 2: at his disposal. One more flavor foul before he can
[2:26:11] Speaker 2: get suspended.
[2:26:12] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. One is coming for sure in this series. Oh,
[2:26:14] Speaker 1: my God, I'm going into the game. That's all I'm
[2:26:16] Speaker 1: thinking about. Did you save it or do you still
[2:26:18] Speaker 1: have a little bit? No, you get it. You're trying
[2:26:19] Speaker 1: to get it out the way now. You're trying to
[2:26:20] Speaker 1: get it out the way right now.
[2:26:22] Speaker 4: If I'm Rudy, amen, say whatever the fuck you want
[2:26:24] Speaker 4: to him. He going to lose it at some point.
[2:26:27] Speaker 4: I'm big and I'm banking on the over on the loss.
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: I'm Rudy.
[2:26:29] Speaker 3: I ain't got no control Look at his hits it
[2:26:31] Speaker 3: be the random issue ever.
[2:26:32] Speaker 1: It's not my random I'm coming. You don't see it
[2:26:34] Speaker 1: coming and they do that say on purpose.
[2:26:45] Speaker 8: I'm gonna swipe at the ball The one on Terry
[2:26:49] Speaker 8: Eason was on purpose that way flip.
[2:26:51] Speaker 1: You didn't even roll that hard Come on, dog. And
[2:27:03] Speaker 1: then he drop kicked him for real.
[2:27:06] Speaker 3: After he done doing his crazy shit, how he try
[2:27:09] Speaker 3: to look so composed.
[2:27:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did that. I'm back. Like, I got
[2:27:14] Speaker 1: my shit off. Yeah, I did that. Yeah, I did that.
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: Draymond also has his young boy, Frank Jackson Davis, past fans.
[2:27:23] Speaker 1: Add that one to the highlight. Somebody got a button
[2:27:26] Speaker 1: over there. He definitely talking to us. And then he's
[2:27:28] Speaker 1: going to get on the podcast and talk about that.
[2:27:30] Speaker 1: Turn it off. Yeah. Turn it on. Turn it off.
[2:27:34] Speaker 1: He has other teammates that can take some of the
[2:27:35] Speaker 1: Texan flagrants. Nah. It's all him. He was boxing.
[2:27:40] Speaker 7: Though.
[2:27:40] Speaker 1: I forgot.
[2:27:42] Speaker 7: He was boxing. That's why he didn't go to none
[2:27:45] Speaker 7: of the games. He said he was looking for you.
[2:27:47] Speaker 1: I was in Paris. He was looking for you. I
[2:27:49] Speaker 1: was in Paris. He didn't start boxing until... I don't know.
[2:27:56] Speaker 1: He don't like a lot of people. Most of us
[2:27:57] Speaker 1: on this couch are bloggers.
[2:27:58] Speaker 4: The only person he shit like is Draymond Green.
[2:28:01] Speaker 1: He love me. That's the motherfucker who choked him. Me
[2:28:03] Speaker 1: and Rudy are homies. Yes. Oui, oui, French. I saw
[2:28:08] Speaker 1: it with French kissing on French Francis. Y'all better pay
[2:28:12] Speaker 1: attention to the French fries. Let's move on to Mostly Fam.
[2:28:15] Speaker 1: French kisses, French fries.
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[2:28:35] Speaker 2: Who are the best forwards of all times when it
[2:28:37] Speaker 2: comes to ball handling skills? Best forwards of all times
[2:28:40] Speaker 2: when it comes to ball handling.
[2:28:41] Speaker 1: Forwards. That includes like small forwards. It just says forwards
[2:28:46] Speaker 1: so you can Small power.
[2:28:49] Speaker 4: Is it a nigga that's really a three-man that's playing forward?
[2:28:53] Speaker 2: Small forward. Or real power. Oh, small forward counts too?
[2:28:57] Speaker 2: It says forward. It's not a distinction between small or power.
[2:29:00] Speaker 1: Okay, so. Let me just go power forward. They said
[2:29:05] Speaker 1: with a handle? Within small forward, I got. So you
[2:29:08] Speaker 1: got Trace McGreedy. Oh, shit. Trace McGreedy is a small.
[2:29:12] Speaker 1: I thought I said I'm going to go power forward.
[2:29:14] Speaker 1: I'm going to go KG. Tim Duncan in there. Yeah.
[2:29:21] Speaker 1: Duncan in there. Hello. Hello. Yeah, probably Lamar. Yeah. Magic Johnson, right? Oh. Technically.
[2:29:33] Speaker 1: I mean. No, but that's small. He was small forward.
[2:29:37] Speaker 1: But I mean. What, 6'9, 6'10? I don't know. He played.
[2:29:42] Speaker 1: Grant Hill. Grant Hill? He was a shooting guard, point guard. Forward.
[2:29:48] Speaker 1: Play point guard.
[2:29:52] Speaker 3: That's a basketball question right there.
[2:29:55] Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Small forward. Julius Randle. Power forward.
[2:29:57] Speaker 1: Power forward. Power forward. Shit, Mike Beasley? You got Lamar
[2:30:13] Speaker 1: who's a little power forward. Mike Beasley. The chat is
[2:30:17] Speaker 1: saying Paul George. That's a small forward. That's a forward. Yeah,
[2:30:21] Speaker 1: Paul George. I thought we all said power forward. I'm
[2:30:23] Speaker 1: going to do power forward, yeah. You can't change the
[2:30:25] Speaker 1: mostly fans' questions. They just said forward. I can put
[2:30:27] Speaker 1: myself in a small forward. They just said forward. Oh, no,
[2:30:28] Speaker 1: but I thought he was like, we just going to
[2:30:30] Speaker 1: do power forward because anybody can be a small forward.
[2:30:31] Speaker 1: I can put myself as a small forward. Yeah, that's
[2:30:33] Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What about KD? I ain't seen nobody
[2:30:36] Speaker 1: take it from KD. Probably Paul.
[2:30:41] Speaker 4: I mean, if Small Force is allowed, then you got
[2:30:43] Speaker 4: to say Paul George. He's the only one that got
[2:30:49] Speaker 4: that thing on him.
[2:30:51] Speaker 1: Melo had that thing on him. Melo had that clip
[2:30:53] Speaker 1: on him. Oh, he was not. No, he was not.
[2:30:55] Speaker 1: When he was bored. When he was bored. When he
[2:30:59] Speaker 1: was bored.
[2:31:09] Speaker 4: Nobody handles? Paul Jordan's the one that has handles. You
[2:31:13] Speaker 4: try to jam him, he knows how to get out
[2:31:15] Speaker 4: of it.
[2:31:15] Speaker 10: He handled it more. He handled the ball more. Melo
[2:31:20] Speaker 10: didn't have to do it, but Melo had wiggle, boy.
[2:31:24] Speaker 10: At that size.
[2:31:25] Speaker 1: I'm going myself. You said yourself? I'm going myself. Small forward.
[2:31:32] Speaker 1: I could dribble out of any situation. I feel like
[2:31:34] Speaker 1: creating some shit. Get it off. Get it off. Get
[2:31:38] Speaker 1: it off. Get it off. Are you crazy? Get it off.
[2:31:41] Speaker 4: Shit. There's a difference between ball handling and having handles.
[2:31:48] Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who have handles, can't ball handle. Like,
[2:31:52] Speaker 4: if you pick them up full court, they're going to struggle. Like,
[2:31:55] Speaker 4: Luka struggles if you pick his ass up full court,
[2:31:58] Speaker 4: but he got enough handles in a half court. There's
[2:32:00] Speaker 4: a lot of people that's like that. Like saying, you
[2:32:02] Speaker 4: can't dribble.
[2:32:03] Speaker 1: Say, Chris Webber? As a power forward? Ooh, Chris Webber.
[2:32:09] Speaker 4: But I'll take Lamar Odom over him, though.
[2:32:14] Speaker 1: Lamar was a point guard.
[2:32:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, Lamar Odom, yeah. He was in one trick. He
[2:32:20] Speaker 4: was a point guard. Shout out to Lamar Odom. I
[2:32:23] Speaker 4: like C-Web. I do like C-Web. I do like C-Web.
[2:32:27] Speaker 4: And he was a great passer.
[2:32:29] Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. It's somebody else.
[2:32:31] Speaker 1: Passing? That's high level, and it's not T-Mac. And it's
[2:32:37] Speaker 1: going to hurt, too. Fuck. Let's see what happens. I'm
[2:32:41] Speaker 1: thinking small forward.
[2:32:43] Speaker 6: I was going to say Joe Johnson, but he's a
[2:32:46] Speaker 6: small forward.
[2:32:49] Speaker 1: Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson.
[2:32:52] Speaker 3: But that's the difference between the ball. But that's like
[2:32:55] Speaker 3: ball handling. Yeah, he ain't got a handle. So Kawhi
[2:32:59] Speaker 3: Leonard is the same thing. Yes, he got ball handling.
[2:33:02] Speaker 3: Paul George got the handle.
[2:33:04] Speaker 1: Penny Hardaway? Paul had hands. That's a point guard. Oh, UCLA.
[2:33:09] Speaker 3: He's on that bitch. He's on that bitch. He's on
[2:33:12] Speaker 3: that bitch ISO. He's on that bitch ISO. PG got
[2:33:15] Speaker 3: that bitch on a string string, boy.
[2:33:16] Speaker 1: I was about to say Mashburn, but he had moves.
[2:33:21] Speaker 1: He didn't have, like, he had moves. Yeah, he's an
[2:33:22] Speaker 1: isolation nigga. Yeah, he had moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:33:25] Speaker 3: That's what Jalen Greene need, because he got handles.
[2:33:27] Speaker 1: He need moves. He need to know what to go to.
[2:33:29] Speaker 1: That's it. He don't have no go-to. He need to
[2:33:31] Speaker 1: know what to go to. Goddamn. Who they working with?
[2:33:34] Speaker 1: That's what they just doing, cone shit, man. They ain't
[2:33:37] Speaker 1: doing no... Cones and trash, man. Man, you got to
[2:33:39] Speaker 1: get to your spot, bro. Where is your spots at?
[2:33:43] Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson, all you motherfuckers out there, like, you can't
[2:33:46] Speaker 3: stop me from getting there ever.
[2:33:49] Speaker 1: Even if I turn my back. Do we have Wimby
[2:33:52] Speaker 1: on the power forward? What about Turkoglu? I think he ascended. Okay.
[2:33:55] Speaker 1: He ascended. That nigga was running the war. He can
[2:33:58] Speaker 1: handle it. Wimby. At least I'm a Lamar. Shout out Wimby.
[2:34:03] Speaker 1: Good place for us to stop today. Giannis? What? Giannis?
[2:34:07] Speaker 1: Not handles. Giannis is not about to cross nobody. What
[2:34:12] Speaker 1: about Turkoglu? He ain't dribbling, just dribbling. He was running
[2:34:16] Speaker 1: the one.
[2:34:17] Speaker 4: But he was like Luka, give it to him in
[2:34:18] Speaker 4: a half court and then go from there. What are
[2:34:20] Speaker 4: you talking about? If you put a full court press.
[2:34:24] Speaker 1: On Lamar, Odom, he can get through it. Okay. Throw
[2:34:28] Speaker 1: the bitch between your legs. You ain't... Damn, I'm missing somebody. Oh,
[2:34:35] Speaker 1: my God. That's going to hurt. That's going to hurt.
[2:34:37] Speaker 1: Not Tim Thomas either. A lot of them didn't get
[2:34:42] Speaker 1: the show they handled. That's what I be saying. They
[2:34:44] Speaker 1: had handles, but they never had to use them shits.
[2:34:48] Speaker 1: Antoine Walker. Antoine had a shimmy shimmy. It's half-court shimmy shaking.
[2:34:53] Speaker 1: And that Mike Beasley was a good one, too.
[2:34:55] Speaker 3: And he never had to use his handle. He got
[2:34:57] Speaker 3: crazy handles. I'm going to go Beasley. Michael Beasley can
[2:35:01] Speaker 3: get to it. I'll go KD, but I'll go Beasley.
[2:35:05] Speaker 1: Ain't handles have been a new move? Going into a move.
[2:35:09] Speaker 1: If you say somebody got handles, you're usually thinking they
[2:35:11] Speaker 1: can do moves. Yeah. But it is like what he
[2:35:14] Speaker 1: was saying. There's a difference between them. So does Steph
[2:35:16] Speaker 1: got handles or do he got ball handles?
[2:35:18] Speaker 3: He got both. He just don't use his shit enough.
[2:35:21] Speaker 3: Where did he get handles from? Where did he get
[2:35:24] Speaker 3: handles from? He said he worked his ass off his
[2:35:27] Speaker 3: freshman year. You don't work on handles. You work on
[2:35:30] Speaker 3: ball handling. Where you get the handles from? I know,
[2:35:35] Speaker 3: but then you just start doing stuff.
[2:35:36] Speaker 6: It just becomes natural.
[2:35:40] Speaker 10: Playing on the street, playing in the hood. Your swag
[2:35:45] Speaker 10: comes from your handles. All that shit comes from playing
[2:35:47] Speaker 10: with names you ain't never played with before. But when
[2:35:49] Speaker 10: you in here just doing this.
[2:35:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. That's CP, though. CP got ball handles,
[2:35:56] Speaker 1: but CP never had handles. When he was young, he had...
[2:36:00] Speaker 1: I think Steph got both. Steph got both. He was
[2:36:05] Speaker 1: this big. Tube socks. Little nigga. Running around. Hit that
[2:36:10] Speaker 1: growth spurt 6'1. Nigga CP was a whole different dude.
[2:36:13] Speaker 3: When he was going against Tony Parker early, when he
[2:36:16] Speaker 3: was with New Orleans, I mean, he was handles, wasn't he?
[2:36:20] Speaker 3: Steve Nash handles or ball handling?
[2:36:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[2:36:29] Speaker 10: Ball handler is in the handles. Jamal Crawford, ball handler
[2:36:32] Speaker 10: on handles. All right, my niggas, we know the difference.
[2:36:36] Speaker 1: But Steve Nash is like both, though.
[2:36:38] Speaker 3: Is it, or is it the most advanced ball handling
[2:36:41] Speaker 3: that we've seen?
[2:36:43] Speaker 1: That's advanced ball handling. It is finest.
[2:36:47] Speaker 10: Steve Nash handles, I mean, Steve Francis handles a motherfucking.
[2:36:51] Speaker 1: All right. That ain't ball handling. I hear you. That
[2:36:55] Speaker 1: ain't ball handling. That'll come here. That'll come here. What?
[2:37:00] Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. Ball handling? All these niggas not ball handling.
[2:37:06] Speaker 1: Because they ain't really got handles. Garland got handles. Some
[2:37:10] Speaker 1: people can't get past people. Yeah, you got to be
[2:37:12] Speaker 1: able to get past people. With the moves. The moves
[2:37:14] Speaker 1: you make. Boom, boom. What was that move we just seen?
[2:37:16] Speaker 1: Who hit the nigga with that? Oh, SGA. No, that
[2:37:20] Speaker 1: was Murray. Murray hit him with it. He got some handles.
[2:37:24] Speaker 1: He got a little bit. They're right here. They're right here.
[2:37:27] Speaker 1: Come here. Ain't nothing over there. Ain't nothing over there.
[2:37:30] Speaker 2: On that note, good place to wrap up the show
[2:37:32] Speaker 2: for today. Jordan Crawford, we appreciate you pulling up to
[2:37:34] Speaker 2: Guild Arena.
[2:37:35] Speaker 1: Thank you. Look forward to.
[2:37:37] Speaker 2: Seeing you in the big three with head coach Swaggy
[2:37:40] Speaker 2: P in the championship experience. Appreciate everybody in the chat
[2:37:44] Speaker 2: for pulling up the show today. Appreciate everybody on this
[2:37:45] Speaker 2: couch as always.
[2:37:47] Speaker 1: Assistant coach? Draft me. You ain't serious. You wasn't serious
[2:37:53] Speaker 1: when I drafted you. Are you serious? Right? Did we
[2:37:58] Speaker 1: put him in the game? He wasn't even at the game.
[2:38:01] Speaker 1: Your first game, I was like, brother, you.
[2:38:03] Speaker 4: Ain't coming out of this game.
[2:38:05] Speaker 1: Shit, I know you tied to the motherfucker.
[2:38:08] Speaker 2: Everybody, make sure you check out Untold Shooting Guards on Netflix.
[2:38:11] Speaker 2: It's streaming right now. We'll be on playback tonight watching
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[2:38:20] Speaker 1: What, what, We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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