# LeBron's EMOTIONAL Return Home SHAKES UP Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 29 Jan 2026, 2 h 09 min.

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LeBron's EMOTIONAL Return Home SHAKES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LeBron James returning to Cleveland to face off with the Cleveland Cavaliers and debate if the King's emotional response was a signal that this could have been his final game in the Land. They also debate if LeBron will opt for a farewell tour following this emotional moment from the Cavaliers before reacting to a scary moment for Luka Doncic as Slovenian Jesus fell awkwardly off the Cavs court, striking fear into Los Angeles Lakers fans everywhere. Next, they discuss Joel Embiid's quiet resurgence as the Philadelphia 76ers superstar looks to have gotten his groove back, sparking a debate on if the Sixers should finally be taken seriously with their Big 3 of Embiid, Tyrese Maxey and Paul George firing on all cylinders for the first time in their 76ers careers. Finally, they react to the news that Jayson Tatum may not return this season as the Boston Celtics' superstar continues to rehab from his torn achilles and break down what this means for Jaylen Brown who is in the middle of a career season serving as the Celtics' number 1 option. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants, Norris Cole, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:04 Joel Embiid Got His Groove Back 0:05:15 Doc Rivers Trolls Giannis By Complimenting Embiid 0:38:08 LeBron's Emotional Return To Cleveland 0:46:27 Cleveland Is Donovan Mitchell's City 1:04:55 Luka's Scary Injury 1:12:52 Jaylen Brown Is Still Carrying The Celtics 1:22:45 Jayson Tatum Speaks On The Pressure Of Boston 1:43:03 MVP Race Debate 1:58:59 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[2:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa.
[2:06] Speaker 1: We got a full couch today here in the arena. Swaggy,
[2:09] Speaker 1: can I be with us though? Yeah, he's in China.
[2:12] Speaker 1: China again. Get back in. Move back to China. That quick?
[2:14] Speaker 2: Back in China. Do what you got to do with me.
[2:17] Speaker 2: You got to pay bills. You got to pay the bills, man.
[2:21] Speaker 2: You got to pay the bills. Do what you got
[2:23] Speaker 2: to do. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:26] Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa.
[2:27] Speaker 3: I'm your host, Josiah Johnson. We got NBA legend, current
[2:29] Speaker 3: Art Raiders player, Gilbert Arenas here with us. Next to Gil,
[2:35] Speaker 3: we got two-time NBA champion of the world, Norris Cole,
[2:38] Speaker 3: back in the arena two days straight.
[2:39] Speaker 1: Back to back. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Your squad got
[2:43] Speaker 1: the win last night? Got the dub. Okay. Shout out
[2:45] Speaker 1: Trinity Girls Basketball. All right.
[2:47] Speaker 3: See you next to Norris representing a tough crowd and
[2:49] Speaker 3: a card-carrying country club member. We got Mr. B, Brandon
[2:51] Speaker 3: Jennings here.
[2:55] Speaker 1: Like my golf lesson. Yeah, so when the haters are...
[2:59] Speaker 1: The OJ? Uh-uh. Glove fits. I like the green one.
[3:06] Speaker 1: Green one? I got you. I need a double X, though.
[3:10] Speaker 3: On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished
[3:12] Speaker 3: gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin.
[3:20] Speaker 3: And last but certainly not least, the man they call
[3:22] Speaker 3: Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion of the world, Rashad McCants. Interesting
[3:30] Speaker 3: shirt selection today.
[3:32] Speaker 4: For your energy, big dog.
[3:38] Speaker 3: That's the energy we owe to them. We got a
[3:44] Speaker 3: lot to get into. Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today.
[3:49] Speaker 3: Joel Embiid has been playing at an MVP level as
[3:51] Speaker 3: of late. But should the Sixers still trust the process?
[3:55] Speaker 3: He's been looking good, playing any games that need responding well.
[3:59] Speaker 3: The Cavs smack the Lakers and LeBron's return to Cleveland.
[4:04] Speaker 3: Would a return home for his final NBA season be
[4:06] Speaker 3: the icing on King Jing's legendary career? And Jalen Brown
[4:11] Speaker 3: is playing at an MVP level and guiding the shorthanded
[4:13] Speaker 3: Celtics this season. Does Brown deserve more credit for leading
[4:17] Speaker 3: his team? But before we get into all that, as always,
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[4:47] Speaker 3: going to start this one out in Philly. It's been
[4:49] Speaker 3: hard for the Sixers fans to trust the process in
[4:51] Speaker 3: recent years as injuries have plagued the roster. Former MVP
[4:54] Speaker 3: Joel Embiid playing combined 58 games in the past two seasons,
[4:58] Speaker 3: but things appear headed in the right direction. Sixers were
[5:01] Speaker 3: looking to bounce back against the Giannis' Bucks on Tuesday
[5:04] Speaker 3: night after dropping three of their previous four games, including
[5:06] Speaker 3: a 37-point blowout to the Hornets in Charlotte on Monday.
[5:10] Speaker 3: And their big three gave the team reason for optimism
[5:13] Speaker 3: with one of their best collective performances of the season.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Let's take a look. That's some of the highlights, if
[5:17] Speaker 3: we may, please. So Paul George led Philly with a
[5:20] Speaker 3: team-high 32 points, including a season-high 9 threes. He's 11-21
[5:24] Speaker 3: from the field, 9 of 15 from deep. Embiid continued
[5:29] Speaker 3: his dominance as of late, putting up 29 points and
[5:32] Speaker 3: 9 boards in 29 minutes of action, while Tyrese Maxey
[5:36] Speaker 3: added 22 and 9 assists. Jared McCain was also solid
[5:40] Speaker 3: off the bench. He had 17 points, hitting 5 of
[5:44] Speaker 3: his 6 three-point attempts. So Sixers looking to bounce back
[5:48] Speaker 3: from last season. They won a total of 24 games
[5:50] Speaker 3: last season. This went over the Bucs. I get it's
[5:52] Speaker 3: the Bucs. I get Giannis in play. But they are
[5:54] Speaker 3: an NBA team and they were on the schedule. Sixers
[5:57] Speaker 3: got their 25th win of the season so far. Eclipsing
[6:03] Speaker 3: that previous total of 24 like I mentioned last season
[6:06] Speaker 3: when they dealt with injuries to George and Embiid.
[6:13] Speaker 1: He said.
[6:15] Speaker 3: Looking all right. Got some more highlights. All-star game starter
[6:26] Speaker 3: Tyrese Maxey.
[6:28] Speaker 1: All his highlights, Ben. Let me get around this curve, man.
[6:33] Speaker 1: Squad is out there doing their thing. Like I mentioned, yes,
[6:36] Speaker 1: it is. He's so tough, though.
[6:40] Speaker 3: Against the Bucs. The Bucs, as we know, are cooked.
[6:45] Speaker 3: Now 3-12 without Giannis. We're just 15-15 with Giannis.
[6:49] Speaker 1: Good old dear me. Good old dear me. But Philly
[6:57] Speaker 1: currently sixth in the East with a record of 25-21.
[7:01] Speaker 3: Tyrese Maxson playing at an All-NBA level, selected as an
[7:05] Speaker 3: All-Star game starter for the first time in his career.
[7:07] Speaker 3: Also leads the league in minutes per game and is
[7:10] Speaker 3: sixth in scoring at 29 points per game. Paul George
[7:13] Speaker 3: is up to production the past few weeks, and Embiid
[7:15] Speaker 3: has been balling without a minute's restriction. So, Gil, do
[7:18] Speaker 3: you still have faith in the Sixers' big three to
[7:21] Speaker 3: be a legit threat in the East this season?
[7:23] Speaker 1: Okay, the question you're asking, no. The way you're asking
[7:27] Speaker 1: that question, no. I do not believe in the big
[7:31] Speaker 1: three being a threat because the most important part of
[7:39] Speaker 1: the big three, the guy.
[7:42] Speaker 5: who is technically by our standards is a three-time All-NBA
[7:49] Speaker 5: first team, but he had to make the second team
[7:53] Speaker 5: because of.
[7:54] Speaker 1: The rules that they had to change. Probably one of
[8:00] Speaker 1: the most dominant figures offensively, skilled-wise, in the game today
[8:04] Speaker 1: when healthy, but the.
[8:06] Speaker 5: Fact that he can't play back-to-back games, he can't play
[8:13] Speaker 5: Even some games he had to sit like, so you
[8:15] Speaker 5: can look at that. He played on the 24th. He
[8:18] Speaker 5: skipped the 26th so he can be ready for the 27th.
[8:22] Speaker 5: You're not going to be able to be a dominant
[8:24] Speaker 5: team when the best dude can't really.
[8:28] Speaker 1: Go 100% every single night.
[8:31] Speaker 5: He's going to only be able to play anywhere from
[8:33] Speaker 5: 50 to 60-something games. So you add that as your
[8:38] Speaker 5: best player. you're not going to be able to sustain it,
[8:42] Speaker 5: to win something. If you're trying to win a championship,
[8:46] Speaker 5: you're not going to be able to win with your
[8:47] Speaker 5: best player. Because of the knee, it can't go 82 games.
[8:51] Speaker 5: It can't go 72 games. It can't go 65 games.
[8:55] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[8:56] Speaker 5: So you're not on minute restriction, but you're on game restriction.
[9:00] Speaker 3: And you think it'd be still the best player on
[9:02] Speaker 3: the Sixers?
[9:06] Speaker 1: Man is a league MVP, Josiah. League MVP. He's a
[9:10] Speaker 1: scoring champ. Yeah.
[9:11] Speaker 6: Don't worry.
[9:12] Speaker 1: He's asking the question. He is the best player on
[9:16] Speaker 1: the team, but he can't perform as the best player
[9:21] Speaker 1: every night.
[9:23] Speaker 4: You know. I don't believe in the process anymore.
[9:29] Speaker 1: The process? I don't. I don't.
[9:31] Speaker 4: I mean, it's unfortunate because it's because of injuries, not
[9:34] Speaker 4: because of talent, like Gil said. But I think it's
[9:36] Speaker 4: time to recognize the franchise as being Maxie's franchise.
[9:40] Speaker 1: Okay. So Tyrese Maxie. Okay. All-star game starter.
[9:44] Speaker 4: Embiid is the most talented player on the team, but
[9:45] Speaker 4: availability is part of your ability. And Tyrese Maxie has
[9:49] Speaker 4: been proven to be available, and he has a high
[9:51] Speaker 4: production usage rating, and he's shown that he can sustain
[9:54] Speaker 4: it now. At first, I wasn't sure if he could
[9:56] Speaker 4: sustain it, but Maxie has shown, like, I can do
[9:58] Speaker 4: this with or without them. so I think things should
[10:01] Speaker 4: go Maxie's way they should start building a franchise around
[10:05] Speaker 4: Maxie and his strengths and you know if Joel and
[10:08] Speaker 4: B fits into that that's cool but if it don't
[10:11] Speaker 4: I think you should go in the direction of Maxie.
[10:13] Speaker 4: That's why I don't think that they're a true threat
[10:15] Speaker 4: to win a championship with this collection because of the availability.
[10:18] Speaker 3: I'm not even near a championship level, but you've got
[10:20] Speaker 3: a squad six in the East right now. Playing okay
[10:22] Speaker 3: as of late, but first glimpse of really getting their
[10:24] Speaker 3: starting five all together with Oubre and obviously the rest
[10:27] Speaker 3: of that crew in addition to the big three.
[10:29] Speaker 1: This is about to be February, and this is the
[10:32] Speaker 1: first glimpse? With them all playing together. But you got Embiid.
[10:35] Speaker 1: That's not bad. Better late than never, God damn it.
[10:38] Speaker 1: It is. It's better than never. Better late than never.
[10:40] Speaker 1: They in six right now in the East, and they
[10:42] Speaker 1: playing like, I mean, listen, bro.
[10:44] Speaker 7: I'm not saying they're going to win a championship, but
[10:46] Speaker 7: they can make some noise with the way Tyrese Maxey,
[10:48] Speaker 7: that young boy's playing.
[10:50] Speaker 1: If Embiid can just be there as much as he can,
[10:53] Speaker 1: Paul George playing the way he can, they're going to
[10:54] Speaker 1: be all right. A baby can make noise, too, though.
[10:56] Speaker 1: I mean, it's a threat. A baby can make noise.
[11:01] Speaker 1: But they ain't babies. They ain't babies. It ain't no babies.
[11:04] Speaker 1: When you say threat, what do you mean by that?
[11:06] Speaker 1: Paul George ain't no babies. Tyrese Max ain't no babies.
[11:08] Speaker 5: Babies can hear to the field of the game right now.
[11:12] Speaker 1: Can they make noise? I'm not saying championships. What does
[11:15] Speaker 1: threat mean, though? I don't know what threat is. Can
[11:17] Speaker 1: they win the Eastern Conference?
[11:18] Speaker 8: No, I mean, listen, the way they're playing and that
[11:20] Speaker 8: they're healthy, I mean, it's... I mean, you're acting like
[11:23] Speaker 8: these and B is.
[11:25] Speaker 1: One of the best bigs in the league. Paul George,
[11:27] Speaker 1: when he's healthy. Talk hoop. Like, talk fucking hoop. Talk
[11:31] Speaker 1: an opinion shit. Talk hoop. Talk hoop. Who talked opinion?
[11:35] Speaker 1: Y'all giving opinions, man.
[11:37] Speaker 6: We gave facts. Who on that team? They got a
[11:39] Speaker 6: team full of niggas that can play. We said this earlier.
[11:43] Speaker 1: I went on the record two years ago saying process me.
[11:48] Speaker 1: This summer. This summer. I said, man, you know what?
[11:51] Speaker 6: They put that man on a minute's restriction and they
[11:53] Speaker 6: get him healthy at the playoffs, they'll make a run.
[11:56] Speaker 6: Paul George come back, he healthy, man, they gonna make
[11:58] Speaker 6: a run. Who they gave the team to up until
[12:04] Speaker 6: that point where both of these dudes can get healthy?
[12:07] Speaker 1: Tyrese Max. Tyrese Max. What he been doing? Playing like
[12:09] Speaker 1: a cook. Holding that shit down. He been cooking.
[12:11] Speaker 6: Holding that MVP shit. Vijay come in, unpredictable. Come in,
[12:17] Speaker 6: he be a very valuable piece to what they doing.
[12:20] Speaker 1: Holding it down. McCain, he was down last year. Come back.
[12:25] Speaker 1: Holding it down.
[12:26] Speaker 6: What they've done is they've identified roles. Nick Nurse has
[12:30] Speaker 6: figured it out as far as what he needs to
[12:32] Speaker 6: get from Joel Embiid on a nightly basis.
[12:36] Speaker 1: You talking about turning the corner in February? I said it.
[12:39] Speaker 6: This is a team that can get their shit together
[12:42] Speaker 6: second half of the season. I said that when OKC
[12:44] Speaker 6: was doing all the shit that they was doing. playing
[12:47] Speaker 6: all good, all early. Wait till these teams that ain't
[12:49] Speaker 6: figured it out yet figure it out. It's going to
[12:51] Speaker 6: look a lot different for the East and the West.
[12:54] Speaker 6: And that's what's happening with the East right now. They
[12:56] Speaker 6: look like a, not only the Six, but are they
[12:59] Speaker 6: better than the Boston Celtics right now?
[13:01] Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't know? We don't know? I
[13:05] Speaker 1: don't know. What is the record? I was about to say,
[13:06] Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, the record.
[13:07] Speaker 6: So we're going to go on the record. I ain't
[13:08] Speaker 6: asking about the record.
[13:09] Speaker 1: Okay. I said, are they a better team? I don't
[13:10] Speaker 1: really know. What's the record? Are they a better team?
[13:12] Speaker 1: Sixers 25 and 21, Celtics 29. Three games back. They're
[13:16] Speaker 1: in the hunt.
[13:17] Speaker 6: Three games back from third.
[13:19] Speaker 1: Three games back from third. This is a big hit
[13:20] Speaker 1: for me, bro.
[13:21] Speaker 4: I mean, obviously if Embiid is healthy, but, I mean,
[13:24] Speaker 4: we've been saying that for how many years straight?
[13:25] Speaker 1: We're talking hoop. We are.
[13:27] Speaker 6: We're watching them niggas hoop then. We're watching them niggas hoop.
[13:30] Speaker 6: Are they Embiid hooping?
[13:32] Speaker 1: It is. Is Embiid hooping? When he plays, he always hoops.
[13:34] Speaker 1: Is he hooping? When he plays a game. When he plays,
[13:38] Speaker 1: he's hooping, right?
[13:39] Speaker 6: You ignoring the fact that Mike come outside and plays
[13:41] Speaker 6: a game.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxey hooping?
[13:43] Speaker 5: Yes.
[13:43] Speaker 6: Every night?
[13:44] Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, him every night. Okay. Is DJ hooping? Yes.
[13:47] Speaker 1: Every night? He's cool, though. All right, these niggas is hooping.
[13:50] Speaker 6: So we got this guy coming in, MVP, hooping every
[13:54] Speaker 6: other night.
[13:55] Speaker 1: We got this nigga hooping every night. Stretch, too. Paul George.
[13:59] Speaker 1: Every other night. Is Paul George hooping? That's what they
[14:02] Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, he's solid. When they play. Don't overglaze
[14:05] Speaker 1: the situation.
[14:05] Speaker 6: All right, name me the Boston Celtics guys that are hooping.
[14:08] Speaker 1: You don't got to name it. Look how they playing.
[14:09] Speaker 6: I'm asking the question. Name me the guys that's hooping
[14:11] Speaker 6: on the Boston Celtics.
[14:12] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. One guy. That's all they need.
[14:15] Speaker 6: All right.
[14:16] Speaker 1: It's a team. So what we did, we're going to
[14:18] Speaker 1: talk hoop.
[14:18] Speaker 6: Let's talk hoop. We got four guys that can hoop.
[14:20] Speaker 1: So why are they three games behind? Boston is hooping
[14:22] Speaker 1: as a team. Boston been hooping. What you mean?
[14:25] Speaker 6: So there's three games behind because MB and Paul George
[14:28] Speaker 6: have been getting healthy while the season has been going.
[14:31] Speaker 1: Now they're healthy. They're getting hurt? They're healthy now. They're
[14:34] Speaker 1: getting their shit together. They're getting hurt every year, though.
[14:36] Speaker 1: During the season. I said this in the beginning.
[14:38] Speaker 6: If they progress and these guys get healthy, they're going
[14:42] Speaker 6: to be dangerous.
[14:43] Speaker 1: That's been the if for five years straight, but that's
[14:46] Speaker 1: been the if. What are we talking about right now?
[14:48] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I need to see it more. We're
[14:50] Speaker 1: not talking about the if right now. It's been every year.
[14:52] Speaker 1: We're talking about what we've just seen. I would like
[14:54] Speaker 1: to see it more.
[14:55] Speaker 6: And they just lost to the Hornets without Embiid, which
[14:57] Speaker 6: was a 20, 30-point deficit based on Bigfella being there.
[15:02] Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, I would like to see
[15:04] Speaker 1: them be good, but, I mean, I got to see
[15:05] Speaker 1: it more. But he missed the stretch off earlier. He
[15:06] Speaker 1: hurt a lot. Come on, man.
[15:07] Speaker 3: But can you look at the Sixers team? Do you
[15:09] Speaker 3: have faith in the Sixers squad? If that big three
[15:12] Speaker 3: can stay healthy. Obviously, Tyrese Maxey is taking over.
[15:14] Speaker 1: Like, they healthy. I wouldn't want to play them. Like, healthy?
[15:19] Speaker 1: I would not want to play them in a seven-game
[15:21] Speaker 1: playoff series. If they're healthy. That's just what it is. Like,
[15:24] Speaker 1: because there's been proven nobody in the National Basketball Association
[15:27] Speaker 1: can guard Joel Embiid. Nobody. You see how he looks
[15:30] Speaker 1: out there. He's playing on one leg now and doing
[15:34] Speaker 1: what he's doing. So, we know he's a threat always.
[15:38] Speaker 1: And if you get Paul playing that somewhat of what
[15:41] Speaker 1: we know Paul could be. And Tyrese Max is going
[15:44] Speaker 1: to do him. They not a bad team. Kelly Oubre
[15:48] Speaker 1: is competitive. I don't know what they doing with Kyle
[15:52] Speaker 1: Lowry and Eric Gordon over there. Dead ass, like what
[15:57] Speaker 1: do they, they just, yeah.
[15:59] Speaker 6: But you know when they ready, if they ready, they'll
[16:01] Speaker 6: step out there and hit some shots.
[16:03] Speaker 1: Eric always hits shots. Fuck around and get hurt. Get
[16:06] Speaker 1: hurt for sure. Fuck around with Nick Nurse. After eight points.
[16:11] Speaker 1: 39 years old over that bitch, go out there bitch
[16:12] Speaker 1: trying to guard. Like yeah. Like, no, but. No, like
[16:18] Speaker 1: they are, they ain't. Joel, like you said, he's missed shit. 15,
[16:24] Speaker 1: 16 games this year. 20. 20 games? 20? He's missed
[16:29] Speaker 1: 20 games.
[16:29] Speaker 5: 20 games out of 46.
[16:32] Speaker 1: And he's still only playing like 27 minutes a night. So,
[16:36] Speaker 1: but it's scary. It is scary if they're healthy. But
[16:40] Speaker 1: like we all saying, man, it is a big if.
[16:44] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. It is. It'd be a trend
[16:46] Speaker 1: in the right direction. You got BJ Edgecombe. You got
[16:48] Speaker 1: Quinn Grimes.
[16:48] Speaker 3: You got some guys on Jeremy Kane starting to kind
[16:50] Speaker 3: of figure stuff out now.
[16:51] Speaker 1: He's been trending in the right direction. You still have
[16:54] Speaker 1: a guy who plays on the 24th. I mean, the 22nd,
[16:57] Speaker 1: the 24th.
[17:00] Speaker 5: That means that need didn't recover the way it needed
[17:02] Speaker 5: to be to play on the 26th. So he had
[17:04] Speaker 5: to miss the 26th to play on the 27th. I
[17:07] Speaker 5: think they figured.
[17:08] Speaker 1: It out, though.
[17:09] Speaker 6: It don't mean that at all. I think they figured
[17:12] Speaker 6: it out. Before, he would have tried to play on
[17:13] Speaker 6: the 26th. He would have tried to play. And then
[17:15] Speaker 6: been out the 26th, 27th.
[17:17] Speaker 1: So I think they're figuring it out now, knowing how
[17:20] Speaker 1: it's responding to big minutes. And that's what I'm saying.
[17:22] Speaker 5: So it's like we know he probably can play– Three
[17:28] Speaker 5: and a half games in ten nights.
[17:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? Is that a winnable formula for an MVP?
[17:39] Speaker 1: In the playoffs? 25, 7, and 4 is a win
[17:42] Speaker 1: that's winnable.
[17:44] Speaker 6: They get in the playoff series. Those are his stats
[17:46] Speaker 6: right now.
[17:47] Speaker 1: They got days in between, one day, two days in between,
[17:50] Speaker 1: and they know what they can do with that knee.
[17:52] Speaker 1: I think they're using this time now to figure that
[17:56] Speaker 1: part out. As long as they finish in the top six,
[18:00] Speaker 1: they dangerous. Yeah. Say themselves again.
[18:03] Speaker 6: Didn't we talk about this when we said y'all was
[18:06] Speaker 6: saying it's cooked.
[18:07] Speaker 1: They cooked. He's not playing. I'm not talking about that.
[18:10] Speaker 6: I'm talking about when the knee was fucked up. Y'all
[18:13] Speaker 6: was just like, man, that knee's fucked up. The Sixers
[18:16] Speaker 6: are cooked. I said, if they rehab him right and
[18:20] Speaker 6: don't bring him in like trying to play him heavy
[18:24] Speaker 6: men is up front and leave him to the end
[18:27] Speaker 6: of the season.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Fuck the awards.
[18:29] Speaker 6: Fuck all that shit. Let him be healthy near the
[18:32] Speaker 6: end and let him take them over the top. 25-7-4
[18:34] Speaker 6: right now on 48% field goal percentage. On minutes restriction.
[18:41] Speaker 1: Not minutes restriction, game restriction. Let's talk about it. The
[18:45] Speaker 1: fuck is the difference? The fuck is the difference is
[18:48] Speaker 1: if we play today, we have a day off tomorrow,
[18:52] Speaker 1: and we play the next day and he can't play,
[18:54] Speaker 1: so we play Thursday.
[18:56] Speaker 5: We have a day off Friday and we play somebody Thursday.
[18:58] Speaker 1: We play somebody Saturday and he misses that game. That's
[19:01] Speaker 1: a game restriction. But he can play. He can play
[19:04] Speaker 1: on all the games.
[19:05] Speaker 6: They just rather him be fresh on the games that
[19:08] Speaker 6: they need him.
[19:09] Speaker 1: Again, so you're missing games so the knee can recover 100%
[19:15] Speaker 1: because it's not a 100% knee.
[19:17] Speaker 5: So like Jokic, right, when he's playing, or Giannis when
[19:20] Speaker 5: he's playing, they.
[19:21] Speaker 1: Get to play all the games 100%.
[19:25] Speaker 5: His knee doesn't allow that, so he has to miss
[19:28] Speaker 5: games for it to go 100 so he can be
[19:31] Speaker 5: 100 in a game. They are afraid when I play
[19:34] Speaker 5: this game today, we have a day off, and then
[19:36] Speaker 5: that next game, the knee is only 75%. I need
[19:40] Speaker 5: it at 100 because that next game we play, it
[19:43] Speaker 5: might be at 50%. So their game restrict them and say, well,
[19:48] Speaker 5: you know what? We'll play you 30, 40 minutes if
[19:50] Speaker 5: we need to, but you're going to miss tomorrow and
[19:52] Speaker 5: the next game. Then we'll play you on Sunday.
[19:55] Speaker 1: That's not a winnable. We're good with that. You know why?
[19:58] Speaker 1: I'm looking at his minutes. Has he played 30? He
[20:01] Speaker 1: played four to six in a game. It's game restriction,
[20:04] Speaker 1: not minute restriction. He played four to six in overtime games.
[20:07] Speaker 3: So let's break it down. And B, been playing at
[20:09] Speaker 3: an all-NBA level as of late.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing minutes.
[20:11] Speaker 3: Still dealing with the lingering effects of the knee surgery
[20:14] Speaker 3: and went back in April after playing only 19 games
[20:16] Speaker 3: last season.
[20:16] Speaker 1: So let's get to the numbers. The least he's played
[20:19] Speaker 1: is 25. They was getting their doors blew off by Cleveland.
[20:22] Speaker 1: So he missed the game. Complete of 45 minutes. So
[20:25] Speaker 1: processes appeared in Washington. They was beating the hell out
[20:29] Speaker 1: of the Wizards. He played 25.
[20:30] Speaker 3: So a beating period in just 13 of the Sixers'
[20:33] Speaker 3: first 30 games. This season had a stretch where he
[20:35] Speaker 3: missed nine straight games. He was averaging 27 minutes per
[20:37] Speaker 3: game during that stretch. He's played 13 of the last
[20:40] Speaker 3: 16 games. averaging 34 minutes per game. But like Sean said,
[20:43] Speaker 3: for the season, 25 points, eight rebounds, four assists in
[20:47] Speaker 3: 26 games. In his last five games, averaging 32, 10 rebounds,
[20:51] Speaker 3: five assists. Shooting 52 set from the field, playing nearly
[20:54] Speaker 3: 36 minutes per game.
[20:56] Speaker 1: He's shooting 53 this month.
[20:57] Speaker 3: And that five-game stretch includes his first triple-double. He got
[21:00] Speaker 3: an overtime win against the Rockets.
[21:02] Speaker 1: Come on, man. We don't need you to do this.
[21:04] Speaker 1: We don't need you to do this. Season-high 46 minutes.
[21:07] Speaker 1: What's up with this guy? We got this guy averaging 32. 31.
[21:12] Speaker 1: We cool. Come on, big fella. Chill. Come back when
[21:16] Speaker 1: we play a good team. Can he sustain it? That's
[21:18] Speaker 1: the big question.
[21:18] Speaker 6: He's been through the last two seasons, played 50 in
[21:21] Speaker 6: total games.
[21:21] Speaker 1: I hope he can get it out, but it is. Okay,
[21:23] Speaker 1: but the five teams. They can't compete without him. We
[21:26] Speaker 1: know that, right? Right. They can't compete without him. They
[21:29] Speaker 1: can't compete without him. That is a fact. You don't
[21:33] Speaker 1: agree with that? What's their record without him?
[21:36] Speaker 5: The last five games. That's what you said, the last
[21:40] Speaker 5: five games. Can you tell me the five games' dates?
[21:46] Speaker 5: These five games was played in what stretch of dates?
[21:49] Speaker 5: The 16th through the what? So six is 10 and
[21:53] Speaker 5: 10 without him being the season good.
[21:54] Speaker 1: Let me get to you. Yeah, I'll tell you. Three
[21:55] Speaker 1: days in between, three days in between, two days in between,
[21:58] Speaker 1: three days in between. 10 and 10? 10 and 10
[21:59] Speaker 1: without him. Shut up.
[22:01] Speaker 6: So he played on the fourth this week.
[22:06] Speaker 1: 19, 15, 20, 20 seconds.
[22:06] Speaker 6: These niggas is scrambling like a mother.
[22:10] Speaker 1: So it's not five games in eight days.
[22:13] Speaker 5: It's five games in how many days these five games
[22:17] Speaker 5: were in.
[22:18] Speaker 1: I believe 11 days ago. No. What's even more impressive, though?
[22:22] Speaker 1: Why y'all doing that, right? So to start the month,
[22:25] Speaker 1: he played 35 minutes, 33 minutes, 40 minutes, 25 minutes, 31, 36, 25, 33, 33, 46, 36, 29.
[22:26] Speaker 1: Those are his minutes played. Yes. So he played on
[22:28] Speaker 1: the 1st, the 3rd, the 5th, the 7th, the 9th,
[22:29] Speaker 1: the 12th. So he's having rest in between the games. Mm-hmm.
[22:43] Speaker 1: Whether it's playing, whether it's the schedule, whatever it is,
[22:46] Speaker 1: it's been beneficial to that league. Whatever it is, it's
[22:50] Speaker 1: been beneficial. He's had at least two days in between
[22:53] Speaker 1: each game. Seven of the last nine games.
[22:54] Speaker 3: So since January 12th, he's played seven games, Gil, between
[22:57] Speaker 3: the 12th and the 27th.
[22:59] Speaker 5: You said five, so there's been 11 games, and he
[23:01] Speaker 5: missed two games in between.
[23:03] Speaker 1: I know you stretch it out.
[23:09] Speaker 6: We're trying to say if this team could be a
[23:16] Speaker 6: championship team.
[23:17] Speaker 5: And then you throw out a status. This is what
[23:19] Speaker 5: he's done the last five games. And I'm saying, okay,
[23:22] Speaker 5: I hear that. How many days did these five games happen?
[23:27] Speaker 1: So he played five of the last seven? So he
[23:30] Speaker 1: had to miss two games in between the seven. To
[23:33] Speaker 1: make it. And I'm saying, can you do that in
[23:37] Speaker 1: the playoff?
[23:38] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[23:39] Speaker 1: And be successful. Yeah.
[23:40] Speaker 5: Because people don't realize he's been in every playoff series.
[23:46] Speaker 5: Are we forgetting this? Maxie, Paul George, and Embiid has played.
[23:51] Speaker 5: The problem is them games are back to back to back.
[23:54] Speaker 5: And that knee ain't recovering fast enough. We had knee injuries.
[24:00] Speaker 5: So I know how I feel. on a back-to-back or
[24:04] Speaker 5: one day's rest. We would love three days rest.
[24:09] Speaker 1: Right? We would love three days rest, but the knee can't.
[24:12] Speaker 1: It needs more days. So he had to miss two
[24:15] Speaker 1: days in between this. Just for the knee. It's smart,
[24:20] Speaker 1: but can they win something? But in the last 16 games,
[24:22] Speaker 1: he's played in 13 of them. Yeah, no, no.
[24:24] Speaker 6: I was about to say that. Remember when he had
[24:26] Speaker 6: the surgery? Remember when he had the surgery and he
[24:28] Speaker 6: came back and.
[24:29] Speaker 1: The Sixers were... Sixers were where?
[24:32] Speaker 6: They were like 8th, 9th, or 10th or something and
[24:35] Speaker 6: he played like 12 straight games and then he helped
[24:39] Speaker 6: them get into the playoffs.
[24:41] Speaker 1: He didn't lose in the first round, yeah. And he
[24:43] Speaker 1: actually played well. He wasn't supposed to play. He wasn't
[24:46] Speaker 1: supposed to come back. But he was the.
[24:48] Speaker 6: Game changer for them to get into the playoffs after
[24:52] Speaker 6: being just maxi, just maxi out there.
[24:55] Speaker 1: And B come back, big fella. Hey, he's giving it
[24:58] Speaker 1: all he got with the little knee. He out there,
[25:01] Speaker 1: gave it all.
[25:02] Speaker 6: Now they figured it out. Hey, listen, we're not going
[25:04] Speaker 6: to heavy load you in the beginning of the season
[25:07] Speaker 6: like that. We're going to space this shit out, and
[25:09] Speaker 6: we're going to have you at the end of the season.
[25:12] Speaker 1: Which seems to be the goal, right? When I hear threat,
[25:14] Speaker 1: I think championship. That's why I said no.
[25:15] Speaker 4: Now, if you're talking about winning a playoff series, they
[25:18] Speaker 4: might be able to win a playoff series.
[25:19] Speaker 1: Who's a threat in the East? Can they win two playoffs?
[25:21] Speaker 1: Who's a threat in the East? Who's a threat in
[25:23] Speaker 1: the East? I don't know. Did you just hear what
[25:25] Speaker 1: he said? Who's a threat in the East? He said
[25:27] Speaker 1: a man came back to help them in the playoffs.
[25:31] Speaker 1: Couldn't even play in the playoffs. I didn't know where
[25:33] Speaker 1: Giannis was.
[25:34] Speaker 5: And then he ended up playing 19 games the next year.
[25:36] Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about. He did that last playoff
[25:39] Speaker 5: breach to miss the whole next season.
[25:41] Speaker 1: Then had surgery this April. I mean, it just doesn't
[25:44] Speaker 1: make sense. You sound good. Who's that threat in the East?
[25:48] Speaker 1: Not the Sixers. To win the championship. Not the Sixers.
[25:51] Speaker 1: Who then? Not the Sixers. Detroit Knicks. I don't know
[25:54] Speaker 1: if nobody can beat nobody. I don't know. I just
[25:57] Speaker 1: said a threat. So we're going to avoid the questions?
[25:59] Speaker 1: Just let me know. Go to the finals. We're going
[26:01] Speaker 1: to talk finals? Yeah, Detroit and the Knicks. Detroit Knicks.
[26:05] Speaker 1: Detroit Knicks. Detroit Knicks. Yeah. And the Sixers are not
[26:09] Speaker 1: a threat. Okay. Let's just answer this question.
[26:14] Speaker 5: If the Knicks are fully healthy, Rashad, if Philly is
[26:20] Speaker 5: fully healthy, Philly is the best team in the East.
[26:25] Speaker 1: Okay? If Michael Jordan was playing right now, he would
[26:29] Speaker 1: be the best player in the NBA. Let me try again.
[26:35] Speaker 1: 96 Michael Jordan. If he was playing today, he would
[26:38] Speaker 1: average 40. Do you see the problem here? Yeah, you
[26:41] Speaker 1: sound crazy. That's the problem. You sound crazy. We know
[26:46] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan can't play right now. But we know that
[26:48] Speaker 1: the Sixers are a fucking threat. And the 76ers can't
[26:50] Speaker 1: be healthy. We know that. We know they can't be healthy.
[26:53] Speaker 1: The Sixers are a fucking threat. We know they can't
[26:55] Speaker 1: be healthy.
[26:56] Speaker 6: If the Boston Celtics are a threat, the Boston Celtics
[27:00] Speaker 6: are number three in the East.
[27:02] Speaker 1: So I hear you, Sean, but the fact that we
[27:06] Speaker 1: have to put an asterisk, Don't have to.
[27:08] Speaker 6: Not this year because we haven't seen no injuries yet.
[27:11] Speaker 6: We haven't seen nothing. We haven't seen any injuries that's
[27:16] Speaker 6: setting them back this year.
[27:18] Speaker 1: They have slowly been progressing.
[27:22] Speaker 6: Slowly been progressing. It can't be because everyone in the
[27:28] Speaker 6: East right now is like this. You got number three.
[27:31] Speaker 6: Boston is number three with one player.
[27:34] Speaker 1: No, they got a team. One player. And they just him, bro.
[27:38] Speaker 1: They got a team.
[27:39] Speaker 6: I'm not diminishing what they doing. Jalen Brown is the
[27:43] Speaker 6: guy holding the fort down.
[27:45] Speaker 1: Yes.
[27:46] Speaker 6: You got Philly with MB, Maxie, McCain, DJ. You got
[27:52] Speaker 6: guys that are hooping.
[27:54] Speaker 1: And they're behind. The fact is that that man can
[27:58] Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow. And that motherfucking knee be like, nah.
[28:02] Speaker 1: You've been wrong. It's been evidence, though. It ain't like
[28:04] Speaker 1: we making that up. It's been like that.
[28:06] Speaker 5: He's been wrong every time he says this. He's been wrong.
[28:10] Speaker 5: We said it in the playoffs.
[28:12] Speaker 6: I'm guaranteed if we say is it obvious, it's 70-something percent.
[28:15] Speaker 1: He just reminded us his take. Guaranteed.
[28:17] Speaker 6: 70-something percent.
[28:18] Speaker 1: I'm right. Hold on. 70-something percent.
[28:20] Speaker 5: He just reminded us his take of MB coming back
[28:23] Speaker 5: when we all said don't because it's going to hurt him.
[28:26] Speaker 1: It didn't hurt him. It helped him get to the playoffs.
[28:28] Speaker 1: It helped him get in. It don't matter, nigga. He
[28:33] Speaker 1: wanted to show his team that they could do something.
[28:35] Speaker 1: And they didn't.
[28:36] Speaker 9: They did.
[28:36] Speaker 1: They got to the playoffs. And they lost. It don't matter.
[28:39] Speaker 1: They got there. They lost. What the fuck is y'all
[28:41] Speaker 1: talking about? That wasn't the point. He got there.
[28:43] Speaker 6: He knew he wasn't going to be able to play
[28:45] Speaker 6: the whole rest. He got the surgery. He went to
[28:48] Speaker 6: the fucking Olympics, and it got worse.
[28:52] Speaker 1: Did it not? Yep. We all said don't go. We
[28:55] Speaker 1: all said don't go.
[28:56] Speaker 6: Didn't he get another surgery?
[28:58] Speaker 1: Didn't he get another surgery? Now it's recovered. Now he's recovered.
[29:03] Speaker 6: Now he's taken a precaution of how he comes back.
[29:06] Speaker 6: And now it looks like he has figured it out.
[29:09] Speaker 1: Let me tell you what he looks like now. Every
[29:10] Speaker 1: time he falls, the Anthony Davis thing. Oh, shit. Can
[29:14] Speaker 1: you give me that dope he's on I want to
[29:16] Speaker 1: be this little give me the dope he's on this
[29:18] Speaker 1: year This just seems fun over here. So I don't
[29:20] Speaker 1: think you're on dope. I think They should. They should.
[29:32] Speaker 1: Can you give me that dope he's on? I want
[29:35] Speaker 1: to be this. Give me the dope he's on. This
[29:37] Speaker 1: shit seems fun over here. So I don't think you're
[29:39] Speaker 1: on dope. I think you're on fun. No, no, no, no, no.
[29:41] Speaker 1: He's on it.
[29:41] Speaker 6: Hey, can you get me? It's called pussy and push-ups.
[29:46] Speaker 6: That's all I'm on. I don't do nothing but that.
[29:49] Speaker 6: You might not be able.
[29:50] Speaker 1: To feel what I'm on. Nigga, I don't know. Hey,
[29:52] Speaker 1: is it obvious? 78% go with pussy and push-ups. Is
[29:56] Speaker 1: it obvious that he's on? Come on, it's obvious. I
[29:59] Speaker 1: don't understand. That is We watch it. Neither here nor there.
[30:03] Speaker 1: We have the chat. We have the chat. Is it obvious? Yes. 65%
[30:08] Speaker 1: say yes. Thank you. Almost. But this was a previous visit, obviously. No,
[30:12] Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you're going to say, Bobby. It's
[30:14] Speaker 1: not true. Hey, by the time we finish this episode,
[30:15] Speaker 1: it's about 86%. Do we want Joel Embiid to be healthy? Yes, absolutely.
[30:18] Speaker 1: We want him healthy. But 75% Joel Embiid is going
[30:19] Speaker 1: to help us get to the plate. I think they're
[30:20] Speaker 1: figuring it out, but it's still dealing with The entity
[30:37] Speaker 1: that don't have ears. Right? Every dealing with a Nia
[30:41] Speaker 1: that this motherfucker don't do what he want to.
[30:43] Speaker 3: From what we saw in the past two seasons to
[30:45] Speaker 3: what we're seeing right now, is there at least a
[30:47] Speaker 3: reason for optimism? If I told you Dwayne Embiid played
[30:49] Speaker 3: 13 of the last 16 games in distress.
[30:51] Speaker 1: What happened? Okay. I get that.
[30:52] Speaker 6: That's what I said. You're such a good mind. You
[30:56] Speaker 6: deserve a raise. You deserve a raise.
[31:00] Speaker 1: That's it. Thanks.
[31:03] Speaker 3: They're trending in the right direction here. No, say what
[31:05] Speaker 3: you just said again. He played 13 of the first
[31:07] Speaker 3: 30 games of the season. 13 of the first 30?
[31:09] Speaker 3: Had a stretch where he missed nine straight, dealing with
[31:11] Speaker 3: the knee. Played 13 of the last 16 games. Where
[31:14] Speaker 3: we stand right now, at this current moment.
[31:16] Speaker 1: What is their record? It's trending in the right direction. No,
[31:19] Speaker 1: in the last 13 games. I'll give them that.
[31:21] Speaker 8: They're trending in the right direction right now.
[31:23] Speaker 1: The question was, is there a reason to show optimism? Yeah, optimism. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[31:28] Speaker 5: Since you want to throw out numbers, what is the record?
[31:33] Speaker 1: You already know that. What is the record in the
[31:35] Speaker 1: last 13 games? We've got to give them some direction.
[31:39] Speaker 1: Look at the last. It was looking like it was
[31:41] Speaker 1: never going to play again. Nine and four in the
[31:44] Speaker 1: last 13 games. Is that you're in the right direction?
[31:46] Speaker 1: That's a fucking winning percentage.
[31:48] Speaker 6: Yes Yes, yeah nine and four is winning ain't it.
[31:54] Speaker 1: Nine and four in the last 13 games just.
[31:56] Speaker 5: Go against anything because I'm not even four is a
[32:00] Speaker 5: great winning record so but he argues a team that
[32:07] Speaker 5: That was 32 and four, but he lost to a
[32:10] Speaker 5: favorite team twice.
[32:11] Speaker 1: And he says they're cooked. They're done. They're figured out.
[32:16] Speaker 1: Coming from the same man. Nine and four. Oh, my God.
[32:19] Speaker 1: Championship ready. A team. That was 20 games in front
[32:23] Speaker 1: of everybody. They lose twice to the team he likes.
[32:26] Speaker 1: They're cooked. There it was. Boom shaka laka.
[32:28] Speaker 6: What's their record now? Boom shaka laka. They're caught up
[32:32] Speaker 6: with the rest of the field. We got beat for
[32:33] Speaker 6: Canada because of him. They're the same with Detroit.
[32:37] Speaker 1: They're the same record as Detroit, right? Then what is that,
[32:39] Speaker 1: number one? Number one. Ten losses? What? Who? The OKC,
[32:44] Speaker 1: they lost 11, 10, 10 or 11 games? They are.
[32:45] Speaker 1: They said Boston would still be at four, right? No. No? No?
[32:47] Speaker 1: They're 38 and 10. They'll be at four? 38 and 10.
[32:49] Speaker 1: The Pistons are 34 and 11. OK. OK. So when
[32:51] Speaker 1: I said it, they started losing. Mm-hmm. When I said it,
[33:01] Speaker 1: they started losing. Okay, just making sure. I don't want
[33:04] Speaker 1: to get loud and shit. Started losing? You want to
[33:06] Speaker 1: start getting loud and shit? Hold on, so you're more
[33:08] Speaker 1: optimistic about the Sixers than the Thunder? No, you're not.
[33:11] Speaker 1: Was that the fucking question? Was that the fucking question? No, no,
[33:14] Speaker 1: I'm asking you.
[33:15] Speaker 6: The question was, are we optimistic about the Sixers making
[33:18] Speaker 6: the playoffs?
[33:18] Speaker 1: You don't really think that, do you?
[33:20] Speaker 6: Yes.
[33:20] Speaker 4: You're not more optimistic the Sixers are more of a
[33:23] Speaker 4: threat than the Thunders.
[33:24] Speaker 6: Bro, are you niggas that cooked that you got to
[33:26] Speaker 6: start asking random fucking questions? After not answering the fucking question,
[33:31] Speaker 6: you just avoided the question. Now you're going to come
[33:33] Speaker 6: over here and be like, are you saying, nigga, y'all
[33:35] Speaker 6: niggas are so.
[33:36] Speaker 1: I didn't bring the proper... I need that type of stuff.
[33:39] Speaker 6: You have to.
[33:40] Speaker 1: You have to... You have to....
[33:44] Speaker 6: I ain't made a Norris Cole seasoning yet. That's what
[33:47] Speaker 6: I ain't done yet.
[33:48] Speaker 1: I need to make the Norris Cole. He's new. He's new.
[33:53] Speaker 1: He's new. He's new.
[33:54] Speaker 6: I ain't even read the book.
[33:56] Speaker 1: I left the book in the corner. I didn't want
[34:00] Speaker 1: to do it.
[34:01] Speaker 6: He don't think that for real.
[34:04] Speaker 1: Are we optimistic for the Sixers or not? That's what
[34:06] Speaker 1: the question was. But I'm asking you, though.
[34:08] Speaker 6: I'm not listening to you.
[34:11] Speaker 1: They are headed in the right direction. Remember, we went first.
[34:13] Speaker 1: They are. Remember, he's the one that called and processed me.
[34:16] Speaker 1: He don't like him. He don't like Paul George.
[34:19] Speaker 5: He don't like nobody on the 76ers, but we all
[34:21] Speaker 5: went to the 76ers, so he got to go to us.
[34:24] Speaker 6: No, you all said they were cooks, too. What the
[34:26] Speaker 6: fuck are you talking about? You're just making shit up.
[34:30] Speaker 6: And I said cook, too, nigga.
[34:32] Speaker 1: We all agreed. What are you talking about?
[34:36] Speaker 6: I just said if they all get healthy, nigga, they
[34:38] Speaker 6: can make a motherfucking round.
[34:39] Speaker 1: We all agreed. That beard, boy, that beard got a nigga.
[34:43] Speaker 1: You did not say.
[34:44] Speaker 5: He started off his question with, in the middle of
[34:46] Speaker 5: your conversation, are we going to talk hoop?
[34:49] Speaker 1: Are we going to talk hoop? Do they not look good?
[34:51] Speaker 1: Do they not look good?
[34:53] Speaker 6: Talking hoop means do these guys not look like they're
[34:56] Speaker 6: good enough to contend in the East? That's talking hoop.
[35:00] Speaker 1: Y'all gonna let, you gonna let him do this. Y'all
[35:02] Speaker 1: don't let him do this. You're gonna let him pretend.
[35:04] Speaker 1: He said you're cooked with us. This is not just science.
[35:07] Speaker 1: We're gonna talk hoop. We're gonna talk hoop. He was here.
[35:10] Speaker 1: He was here. We were all here. You're not talking
[35:11] Speaker 1: about today. I'm talking About today.
[35:14] Speaker 5: We know he already said they could he's contradicted himself
[35:17] Speaker 5: today because we.
[35:19] Speaker 1: All I'm not contradicting shit.
[35:21] Speaker 6: I said they are a threat They can't fucking get
[35:24] Speaker 6: they sit together when this nigga is on the fucking
[35:27] Speaker 6: restriction that he is the way that they fucking look
[35:31] Speaker 6: The way that they look they can make a run
[35:33] Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna share what we already talked about
[35:35] Speaker 6: cuz I already talked to this nigga about this shit
[35:37] Speaker 6: about what I feel about Philly so It's going to happen.
[35:41] Speaker 6: Shasha Thomas never fucking, he never fails, bro.
[35:43] Speaker 1: Shasha Thomas has never fucking failed. Also been training in
[35:45] Speaker 1: the right direction.
[35:46] Speaker 6: They are fucking, obviously they're a threat.
[35:49] Speaker 4: So you wouldn't be surprised if the Thunder play against
[35:50] Speaker 4: the Sixers in the finals?
[35:52] Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised about
[35:54] Speaker 6: anybody making it to the finals.
[35:56] Speaker 1: Oh, nice, nice. That's a nice recovery. The Wizards. Okay, okay.
[36:01] Speaker 1: I digress. Hey, hey, hey. What's next though, Sy? What
[36:04] Speaker 1: do we got next? Did the Pacers almost make it
[36:07] Speaker 1: to the finals? Okay.
[36:09] Speaker 6: The Pacers almost made it to the final. I didn't
[36:11] Speaker 6: know we'd have this period of a conversation over the
[36:13] Speaker 6: Philadelphia 76ers. They made it? The Pacers made it to
[36:16] Speaker 6: the final? The Pacers did make it to the final.
[36:17] Speaker 6: The Pacers made it. Norris, the Pacers made.
[36:20] Speaker 1: It to the final. Were you surprised? Highly injury-aware. You
[36:22] Speaker 1: were surprised? Okay, so you can't be surprised.
[36:25] Speaker 6: So you won't be surprised if the Phillies win?
[36:27] Speaker 1: No, I haven't ever. I definitely will be surprised. Same surprise?
[36:29] Speaker 5: Remember, before today, in his mind, Phillies cooked. We said
[36:35] Speaker 5: cook today.
[36:36] Speaker 1: Cooked. Cooked. What'd you say? Cooked, right? Okay, you said
[36:40] Speaker 1: if healthy. We all said healthy. We all said healthy.
[36:43] Speaker 1: If it was a fit, we all be talking about it.
[36:45] Speaker 1: He's fighting for his life right now. He won't let
[36:47] Speaker 1: it go. He's fighting for his life. I know when
[36:49] Speaker 1: you're done.
[36:49] Speaker 6: I'm fighting for my life.
[36:51] Speaker 1: Cooked, cooked, cooked. If they're healthy. If they're healthy, right? Previously,
[37:03] Speaker 1: he's always said cook. That's why I said cook. I
[37:07] Speaker 1: wanted to see him reverse.
[37:08] Speaker 5: Because he goes last, he don't want to agree with us,
[37:11] Speaker 5: so he goes the opposite. He couldn't bring out, he
[37:15] Speaker 5: couldn't cook today because we already chose cook.
[37:19] Speaker 1: We already chose cook, now he got to eat. Eat
[37:22] Speaker 1: that processed meat, your stomach hurts. Ladies and gentlemen, if
[37:35] Speaker 1: you appreciate the discipline we have on the show, go
[37:38] Speaker 1: ahead and hit that like button.
[37:40] Speaker 6: I need everybody in the chat to hit that like
[37:43] Speaker 6: button every one time.
[37:44] Speaker 3: I'm trying to see something. I'm trying to see if
[37:47] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena is cooked or not. Hit that like button
[37:49] Speaker 3: for me. Let's see if we can get it back
[37:51] Speaker 3: in the right direction as well. But before the game
[37:53] Speaker 3: against the Bucs, MV's former head coach, Doc Rivers, had
[37:56] Speaker 3: high praise for the former MVP.
[37:59] Speaker 10: I was telling a very, very, very Hall of Fame
[38:02] Speaker 10: player that I coached that he's.
[38:05] Speaker 1: The most talented player. I was like, what? I was like,
[38:11] Speaker 1: he is.
[38:12] Speaker 10: The things that you guys see and then the things
[38:16] Speaker 10: you actually don't see in practice sometimes that he can do.
[38:18] Speaker 1: It's incredible. It really is.
[38:22] Speaker 10: Unfortunately for me, I never had him healthy once in
[38:25] Speaker 10: the playoffs. He wasn't healthy last year. He wasn't healthy
[38:29] Speaker 10: the year before. You know, that's five years straight, I think.
[38:35] Speaker 10: And if he ever gets to the playoffs healthy, especially
[38:39] Speaker 10: when they've added some big pieces here, they're going to
[38:42] Speaker 10: be a dangerous team.
[38:43] Speaker 1: But it's always going to come down to that.
[38:46] Speaker 10: Talk to women with that nothing's changed.
[38:50] Speaker 1: How you how you get that off you got that
[38:54] Speaker 1: you definitely got that thing you gonna must that motherfucker
[38:57] Speaker 1: Definitely need that clarification clarification Yeah, we need to hit
[39:01] Speaker 1: the issue need subtitles Hey Besides.
[39:14] Speaker 6: God damn, Glenn. Like, ooh, shit, juicy mouth, dude.
[39:19] Speaker 3: Doc Rivers said, Embiid, most talented player he's ever coached.
[39:22] Speaker 3: So Rivers coached several current and former Hall of Famers
[39:24] Speaker 3: during his career, which include Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, Paul Pierce,
[39:28] Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Chris Paul, Dwight Leonard, James Harden,
[39:31] Speaker 3: and currently Giannis Antetokounmpo. So what's your reaction to Dr.
[39:35] Speaker 3: Rivers saying Joel Embiid is the most talented player he's
[39:37] Speaker 3: ever coached?
[39:40] Speaker 1: I can't challenge a coach who's watching a player....
[39:44] Speaker 5: Every single day in real time, right? In practice, in
[39:47] Speaker 5: the games, preparation, right? The raw talent that we don't
[39:50] Speaker 5: see outside what the game shows. So the only person
[39:59] Speaker 5: that I can see that was super talented during his tincture, right?
[40:05] Speaker 5: You're naming James, that James wasn't James when he was there.
[40:10] Speaker 5: When it comes to just pure talent, it will probably
[40:13] Speaker 5: just be T-Mac because he did have T-Mac in that
[40:20] Speaker 5: 22 the 202-03 year when he damn near led the
[40:23] Speaker 5: league he led the league in scoring and was fourth
[40:25] Speaker 5: in MVP voting so it would just be.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Those two right that will fit this category of.
[40:31] Speaker 5: What he's talking about so if he chose Embiid I
[40:34] Speaker 5: can't I can't argue with someone who's coaching these guys
[40:37] Speaker 5: so both of them were top tier super talented guys
[40:43] Speaker 5: right he has a younger um he had a younger
[40:45] Speaker 5: t-mac right but there was t-mac.
[40:50] Speaker 1: So it's between them two so.
[40:52] Speaker 5: I'm gonna that's who he picked that's who he picked
[40:54] Speaker 5: i can't fight that.
[40:56] Speaker 3: So nor is your given dr we were saying do
[40:59] Speaker 3: i want to be the most talented player that he's
[41:01] Speaker 3: ever coached.
[41:02] Speaker 4: Yeah i mean he gets to see him behind the
[41:04] Speaker 4: scenes every day i agree um T-Mac would be my
[41:07] Speaker 4: only argument. When he got Garnett, Garnett was kind of
[41:10] Speaker 4: a little bit past his prime because Ticket was ultra-talented too.
[41:15] Speaker 4: I think it's word around the league how talented Joel
[41:17] Speaker 4: Embiid is. I've been knowing about Joel Embiid.
[41:20] Speaker 1: His ones is elite.
[41:21] Speaker 4: His skill set, post, three, mid-range. I've been knowing about
[41:26] Speaker 4: his talent. It was never about his talent. Everybody knows
[41:29] Speaker 4: he put 70 on Wimby. It's clear what his talent is.
[41:32] Speaker 4: It's always been about his health. I definitely agree he's
[41:35] Speaker 4: probably the most talented Doc ever coached.
[41:39] Speaker 3: Can you agree with Doc Rivers saying Jordan will be
[41:41] Speaker 3: the most talented player he's ever coached? He's got a
[41:45] Speaker 3: long list of players that he's coached in his career.
[41:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with the couch, but if I'm not mistaken,
[41:55] Speaker 1: didn't Grant get there the same time as T-Mac? Yeah,
[41:59] Speaker 1: but that was the foot one. He's still there, right? Briefly. Briefly.
[42:05] Speaker 1: I was thinking about that too. I agree with what
[42:09] Speaker 1: they're saying because I played against that Tracy McGrady four
[42:16] Speaker 1: times that year. He was hell. But to you guys'
[42:23] Speaker 1: point that you're making, Doc gets to see the totality
[42:27] Speaker 1: of the work and the skill set behind closed doors.
[42:31] Speaker 1: We get to see it when the lights are on. So,
[42:35] Speaker 1: but yeah, no, you can't go against what he's saying,
[42:37] Speaker 1: but not to, he has coached some talented guys. Um, yeah,
[42:44] Speaker 1: like it's a question between him and Mac, but can't,
[42:47] Speaker 1: can't argue with what his, his, his assessment is. Mr. B,
[42:53] Speaker 1: you agree with Doc Rivers?
[42:56] Speaker 7: Uh, I mean, you know, just like they say, you
[42:58] Speaker 7: can't really challenge him. I mean, that's what he sees
[43:00] Speaker 7: every day. I would like to throw Paul Pierce in there.
[43:05] Speaker 7: I just felt, you know, he got Paul when Paul
[43:09] Speaker 7: was at the top of his career, winning championships. I mean,
[43:12] Speaker 7: you know, won a championship, of course, went to the
[43:14] Speaker 7: finals two times. And Paul just elevated, you know, that's
[43:18] Speaker 7: when I got to see Paul really elevate his game to.
[43:20] Speaker 1: The next level. So I would have to put Paul
[43:22] Speaker 1: Pierce in there for me. That's a good one. Truth.
[43:25] Speaker 3: I forgot he had Paul earlier.
[43:29] Speaker 1: Talent? We're talking about talent here. Paul was a great
[43:34] Speaker 1: basketball player. Don't get me wrong. We're talking about pure
[43:36] Speaker 1: talent here. Paul is him, but it's not a question.
[43:44] Speaker 1: That was a good one. That was a good one.
[43:45] Speaker 3: Shall I interview with Doc Rivers saying that Joel Embiid,
[43:49] Speaker 3: most talented player he's ever coached?
[43:52] Speaker 1: How many MVPs did he coach? MVPs? And they won
[43:59] Speaker 1: it that year? With him or without him? Like they
[44:03] Speaker 1: won an MVP with him? Just Joel Embiid, right? Yeah.
[44:10] Speaker 1: I think while he was there. Paul Pierce with the finals. Yeah,
[44:13] Speaker 1: Paul Pierce got the finals. Final MVP. Joel. Joel. You
[44:16] Speaker 1: can't argue, man. It's Not to bring up old shit,
[44:27] Speaker 1: but Rashad, we had... No, that ain't old. It's new.
[44:31] Speaker 5: I was going to wait until everybody was done, then
[44:34] Speaker 5: I was going to ask where that dope at.
[44:36] Speaker 1: Dope man, dope man. Pussy and push-ups. Huh? Mm-hmm.
[44:42] Speaker 3: We asked the chat is it obvious Rashad is on
[44:43] Speaker 3: dope as Gil requested.
[44:45] Speaker 1: 90% is he on dope or is he dope? Is
[44:48] Speaker 1: it obvious Rashad is on dope? Is he dope?
[44:51] Speaker 3: 64% say yes 64% but 64% of the chat is
[44:54] Speaker 3: known to be.
[44:55] Speaker 6: Haters No no no If that's called an L for
[44:58] Speaker 6: me I'll take it I got an OKC record right now.
[45:06] Speaker 1: I got an OKC-type record right now. You just had
[45:08] Speaker 1: the Hornets be better than the Bucs.
[45:09] Speaker 6: I'm on an MVP-type of season type of run right now.
[45:13] Speaker 1: Or 76ers. This is generational.
[45:16] Speaker 6: I'm on a generational run right now. You have made
[45:18] Speaker 6: a lot of very accurate predictions. You can't interrupt greatness
[45:20] Speaker 6: right now. I'll let you get what?
[45:22] Speaker 1: You just had the Hornets be better than the Bucs
[45:24] Speaker 1: early in the season? I said a lot of bullshit,
[45:26] Speaker 1: a lot of delusional shit. He did say that. He
[45:29] Speaker 1: did say a lot of delusional shit. He did say that.
[45:33] Speaker 1: He did say the Bucs. He did say that. He's
[45:36] Speaker 1: an actor right now. Hornets are ahead of the Bucs
[45:38] Speaker 1: in the standings. All right. That's sad. Nigga, they still.
[45:44] Speaker 1: Nigga my ass. Nigga my ass. They are outscoring their opponents. Nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
[45:49] Speaker 1: Do you notice that, right? Have the best net rating
[45:52] Speaker 1: in the league. They are outscoring their opponents and have
[45:54] Speaker 1: a losing record. They're a shit team. I don't care
[45:57] Speaker 1: what you say about the Charlotte Hornets, bro. But I
[45:59] Speaker 1: trust in them more than the Bucs. Okay, that's not
[46:02] Speaker 1: hard to do without Giannis. Absolutely. That was the whole conversation.
[46:05] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Without Giannis, okay, cool. But
[46:07] Speaker 1: with him, we're not doing that. Best net rating in January.
[46:11] Speaker 1: Six row wins of 15 or more. Since 2001. Since 2001, 2002. 2012.
[46:14] Speaker 6: Yeah, the Heat in 2013. They ain't even winning. Got
[46:18] Speaker 6: a loser right there in the basement.
[46:26] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Lakers were
[46:30] Speaker 3: in Cleveland Wednesday night for a game against the Cavs.
[46:32] Speaker 3: LeBron returned to where his NBA career started. for what
[46:35] Speaker 3: could be the final time in his NBA career. So,
[46:40] Speaker 3: LeBron was emotional as he sat on the bench watching
[46:42] Speaker 3: the Cavs tribute video in the first quarter, showed highlights
[46:46] Speaker 3: of his legendary Game 5 performance of the Eastern Conference
[46:49] Speaker 3: Finals against the Pistons. 22-year-old James scored 48 points, cleared
[46:53] Speaker 3: 25 straight to finish the game, to give the Cavs
[46:56] Speaker 3: a double overtime win. Had the nice box of tissues,
[47:00] Speaker 3: looked like the hotel tissues. That you might get stained
[47:03] Speaker 3: at a Ritz-Carlton or comparable level hotel.
[47:05] Speaker 1: That crying shit is funny. Nah, man. Come on. Yo,
[47:10] Speaker 1: why he don't use a towel? Microfiber. Might be his skin.
[47:14] Speaker 1: Might be sensitive. I don't know. He never really used
[47:16] Speaker 1: a towel. Never have. I just wonder. I just always wonder.
[47:21] Speaker 1: Brown wiped away his skin at home. Because you know,
[47:23] Speaker 1: he ain't got anything to get lessened. Okay, they can
[47:26] Speaker 1: get a plain ones. That's fine. Try to get a
[47:29] Speaker 1: plain white one. Yeah, they got all the plain white
[47:31] Speaker 1: towels they can bring. That's all I'm saying. They're changing
[47:33] Speaker 1: for the playoffs. So it's 100.
[47:37] Speaker 3: Brown wiped away tears as he received a standing ovation
[47:41] Speaker 3: from the Cleveland Cloud. Fortunately, Brown had one of his
[47:43] Speaker 3: worst games of the season.
[47:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. 11 points on three attempts shooting emotional guilt.
[47:50] Speaker 1: First time scoring.
[47:50] Speaker 3: Under 20 points in the 13 times he's played in
[47:52] Speaker 3: Cleveland as an opposing player. Lakers suffered their worst loss
[47:55] Speaker 3: of the season, getting smacked by 30 points, outscored by
[47:58] Speaker 3: 20 in the third quarter. Some in the arena are
[48:00] Speaker 3: happy to see that happen.
[48:02] Speaker 1: In that arena? In our arena. Oh. Gills Arena. One
[48:05] Speaker 1: man in particular.
[48:06] Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about beating the Lakers. Oh, I thought
[48:07] Speaker 3: you were... No, that wasn't the story of the game, unfortunately.
[48:10] Speaker 3: This was one of 82. Brownie proved to be one
[48:13] Speaker 3: of the few bright spots for the purple and gold,
[48:15] Speaker 3: finished with eight points on three of three shooting, and
[48:17] Speaker 3: his eight minutes of action had a nice dunk. So
[48:20] Speaker 3: after the game, LeBron reflected on playing in Cleveland.
[48:23] Speaker 11: On the way here during the game, at any point
[48:25] Speaker 11: do you think, like, this could be the last game
[48:28] Speaker 11: I play here, so.
[48:29] Speaker 1: I better soak it in?
[48:35] Speaker 12: You know, I think I talked about that, just trying
[48:38] Speaker 12: to take everything in, not take the moments for granted,
[48:41] Speaker 12: because it could be, you know, I obviously haven't made
[48:43] Speaker 12: a decision on the future, but it very well could be. So,
[48:47] Speaker 12: you know, no matter if it's here or, you know,
[48:50] Speaker 12: going to Washington, playing the next game, Garden, Barclay, you know,
[48:53] Speaker 12: on this trip. So, obviously, and obviously it means a
[48:56] Speaker 12: little bit more here for me personally because I grew up,
[49:00] Speaker 12: you know, 35 minutes south of here.
[49:03] Speaker 1: So, but yeah.
[49:07] Speaker 3: Hearing LeBron's comments, seeing the emotion, it's rarely been that
[49:10] Speaker 3: emotional in the return to Cleveland. Do you think LeBron
[49:12] Speaker 3: just played his last game in Cleveland?
[49:14] Speaker 1: Did he play his last game? No, he didn't play
[49:16] Speaker 1: his last game in Cleveland. Okay. I'm curious. know.
[49:22] Speaker 4: Coming into the season, I thought he was going to
[49:23] Speaker 4: definitely play another year, but I ain't never seen him
[49:25] Speaker 4: be emotional like that.
[49:26] Speaker 1: You're very familiar with LeBron.
[49:28] Speaker 5: Well, you never seen him get praised like that in
[49:34] Speaker 5: this generation of negativities. We're talking about a guy who
[49:40] Speaker 5: has been talked about in a negative way basically since
[49:45] Speaker 5: he's came into the league. So he's really having in
[49:48] Speaker 5: real time got his flowers when he left.
[49:51] Speaker 1: When he left. Burned jerseys. They burned his jersey. He
[49:53] Speaker 1: came back. They won championships.
[49:55] Speaker 5: Yeah. Now because of the crowd says, wait, this might
[49:59] Speaker 5: be your final year. Let us show you the love
[50:02] Speaker 5: that you deserve. They gave it to him. He was
[50:05] Speaker 5: not expecting that. So he's hearing his whole body of
[50:10] Speaker 5: work being cheered for in real time, and it looked
[50:14] Speaker 5: like it caught.
[50:14] Speaker 1: His ass off guard. Because he's like, you know what
[50:17] Speaker 1: I mean? You got to think about it. Everything he's
[50:19] Speaker 1: done in this league. Yeah, but the very fact that he—
[50:21] Speaker 1: You go back to Cleveland, and they— it' s.
[50:23] Speaker 5: Not like, oh, you usually— that wasn't last year. They didn't
[50:25] Speaker 5: do that last year or the year. They did something
[50:28] Speaker 5: different here in that that showed, like, yo, everything you did.
[50:31] Speaker 4: For us, bro, we— Yeah, but normally he'd be so
[50:33] Speaker 4: locked in. It don't matter what you say or do
[50:35] Speaker 4: to him. He don't get emotional. The fact that he
[50:37] Speaker 4: was even like cognitive of that showing me like it's
[50:40] Speaker 4: getting towards.
[50:41] Speaker 1: Look at him. He is locked in at first. Normally,
[50:43] Speaker 1: you know, cheers started happening. I like, oh, shit. I
[50:45] Speaker 1: read to cry. I know that. Real tears? Real. And
[50:49] Speaker 1: that's the first time? It's different. That's the first time
[50:52] Speaker 1: I ever seen that. But that's the first time they did.
[50:54] Speaker 4: He haven't cried other than when Kobe died and when
[50:56] Speaker 4: he got the record.
[50:57] Speaker 1: He ain't cried in an NBA arena like that during
[51:00] Speaker 1: the game.
[51:00] Speaker 4: So the fact that he was even locked in and
[51:01] Speaker 4: tuned into that let me know, like, we might be
[51:04] Speaker 4: at the end now. Because I never conceptualized this is
[51:07] Speaker 4: the end until that. I was like, dang, like, this
[51:09] Speaker 4: actually might be the end.
[51:20] Speaker 1: So he wasn't praised in love before he... He's trying
[51:28] Speaker 1: to start shit. I hear you. Let him ask a question.
[51:33] Speaker 6: So before he left, it wasn't love?
[51:36] Speaker 1: Before he left, it was love. Before the decision on
[51:38] Speaker 1: going to South Beach shit. So he wasn't loved like that?
[51:45] Speaker 1: There wasn't nobody talking negative about him before he left?
[51:49] Speaker 1: In Cleveland?
[51:50] Speaker 5: No, he was beloved by the masses.
[51:54] Speaker 1: We are witnessing greatness. He was loved? He came back,
[51:58] Speaker 1: he was loved. No, I'm talking about before he left. Yeah,
[52:02] Speaker 1: he was loved. Then that's when the... Burgers, that's when
[52:07] Speaker 1: all the negative and the hate started then.
[52:09] Speaker 5: Then he came then right then he came back I'm
[52:12] Speaker 5: on Terminator mode up.
[52:13] Speaker 1: There, but you stated that Beforehand he was he came
[52:16] Speaker 1: into the league. Everybody was talking shit. He ain't outside
[52:20] Speaker 1: world Now he's he's he's at the end of his road. Uh-huh, right? Yes.
[52:25] Speaker 5: He's at the end of his road He don't see
[52:28] Speaker 5: many flowers at his destination, for the greatest, or one
[52:33] Speaker 5: of the greatest.
[52:34] Speaker 1: He don't see the flowers.
[52:35] Speaker 5: Then he goes back to the place where it started.
[52:41] Speaker 1: And the flowers are as loud as the.
[52:45] Speaker 5: Game he has given them, and he felt that in
[52:48] Speaker 5: real time. Like if you went back to Cincinnati right now,
[52:52] Speaker 5: and they came in there and said, man, King and Martin,
[52:56] Speaker 5: and they just did these videos.
[52:57] Speaker 1: You're going to break because you want to. They do
[52:59] Speaker 1: it every time I go back.
[53:00] Speaker 5: They're doing it to another level.
[53:02] Speaker 6: It broke every time I go back.
[53:04] Speaker 1: It broke him. It gave him a whole different feel.
[53:08] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Because he's not in Superman mode.
[53:15] Speaker 5: Yeah, the LeBron they seen before was I'm mentally focused.
[53:19] Speaker 1: He's in vulnerable stage right now. I'm thinking about the
[53:23] Speaker 1: end happening. I just thought the switch happened from being beloved.
[53:29] Speaker 1: I just thought the switch happened from being beloved. Everybody
[53:32] Speaker 1: has something. Everybody's praising, praising, praising. he made the decision
[53:35] Speaker 1: to leave, to go to Miami. And then that's when
[53:38] Speaker 1: all the hate and for every person that loved him,
[53:41] Speaker 1: somebody had a negative comment then. But yeah, so yeah,
[53:45] Speaker 1: but that's all I was, yeah. In 2003, what's the name?
[53:48] Speaker 1: The same ones that the media hates them now. Same ones.
[53:50] Speaker 1: Same ones. Okay, I dig. They don't change.
[53:52] Speaker 6: They're not going to change whether they like it.
[53:55] Speaker 1: Just blame it on the Jordan fans.
[53:57] Speaker 4: I'm about to say, I think Brian gets love, though.
[53:59] Speaker 4: He get hate, yeah, but he get a lot of love.
[54:01] Speaker 1: It's just now that the social media shit, everybody is...
[54:03] Speaker 1: I don't let the narrative... Sworn it up. He get
[54:06] Speaker 1: more hate than me.
[54:07] Speaker 6: You got to love him the way he want to
[54:08] Speaker 6: be loved.
[54:08] Speaker 1: You got to love him the way he want to
[54:10] Speaker 1: be loved. He get so much hate because of that decision, bruh.
[54:15] Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. It was three decisions. It was
[54:18] Speaker 1: three different decisions. No, just the first one. I'm just saying,
[54:24] Speaker 1: that first decision, him doing that, that rubbed some fans
[54:29] Speaker 1: or people around the sports world the wrong way. That's
[54:32] Speaker 1: just what it was. He left Cleveland, left a team
[54:35] Speaker 1: that he had control over and that was his team
[54:39] Speaker 1: and for him to leave, that rubbed some people the
[54:42] Speaker 1: wrong way. And that's when My opinion, that's when the
[54:44] Speaker 1: hate started. So, but. No, I get it. But, you know,
[54:46] Speaker 1: just like. But nowadays it's loud as fuck on social media. Like,
[54:49] Speaker 1: we all play. Yeah. We all are human.
[54:53] Speaker 5: And sometimes we, just like any comment, right? It can
[54:58] Speaker 5: be a hundred.
[55:00] Speaker 1: Good comments, two negative ones we focus on now. Negative, yeah. Right? So,
[55:03] Speaker 1: social media, he only sees negative. Right?
[55:06] Speaker 5: So, when you're talking about, like, this is the end
[55:10] Speaker 5: of my career, this could be the last dance.
[55:12] Speaker 1: Yeah. And this is the standing ovation they gave me. Oh, yeah.
[55:17] Speaker 1: Boo going back there, motherfucker.
[55:20] Speaker 5: I texted him and I was like, I felt like
[55:22] Speaker 5: that shit felt good.
[55:24] Speaker 1: Like, as a fan, just like, damn. Yeah, they used
[55:27] Speaker 1: to boo his ass in there. Did LeBron respond or
[55:29] Speaker 1: did he leave you on read? He left me on read.
[55:33] Speaker 1: I said it's Donovan Mitchell City now. It's Donovan Mitchell
[55:37] Speaker 1: City now, nigga. Hey, he did not respond to me,
[55:40] Speaker 1: God damn it. We will talk about that moment terribly.
[55:43] Speaker 1: He probably did. He did at one point. They used
[55:45] Speaker 1: to boo the shit out of him when he went
[55:47] Speaker 1: back to that motherfucker. Very mean spirit. In the warm-up.
[55:49] Speaker 1: So I get the emotion now to come back from that.
[55:53] Speaker 1: Getting booed every time you touch the ball going back
[55:55] Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, that would do something. I moved his billboard.
[55:58] Speaker 1: That's what I said. I went back to Washington. That's
[56:00] Speaker 1: why I got to Washington because it's John Wall Day.
[56:02] Speaker 1: They have the honor in John Wall today.
[56:04] Speaker 5: But I went back, and I was scared to go back.
[56:06] Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, last time I was there, they
[56:08] Speaker 1: booed the fuck out of me. I'm good. I'm good.
[56:10] Speaker 1: And then when I went, and then it was a
[56:12] Speaker 1: stunning ovation, all love. I damn near cried. It has
[56:14] Speaker 1: to be a horrible feeling to get booed by people. Yeah.
[56:18] Speaker 1: Because we all want to be recognized for what we did. Yeah,
[56:20] Speaker 1: that shit would suck if I went back to Jersey
[56:21] Speaker 1: the first and them niggas booed the shit out of me. Yeah,
[56:23] Speaker 1: that would suck. Yeah, that would. And I had no,
[56:26] Speaker 1: it wasn't my choice to leave. Did it hurt your feelings? What? No,
[56:29] Speaker 1: that nigga, that was who? The getting booed. That didn't happen.
[56:32] Speaker 1: That didn't happen. When I went back, my first trip,
[56:36] Speaker 1: there came more crew signs in that bitch. Like, no,
[56:39] Speaker 1: I had my own section in Jersey. Did that make
[56:41] Speaker 1: your heart flutter? Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. You know what? I
[56:45] Speaker 1: got somebody who, hey, Rashad. He's booing right now. Nah, nah.
[56:52] Speaker 1: He's booing right now. Boo! Boo! Boo!
[56:55] Speaker 6: They boo me in the airport when I touchdown.
[56:58] Speaker 1: Boo everywhere. I get booed. How did it feel last year?
[57:02] Speaker 1: What was last year? When you went back. Yeah. Went
[57:06] Speaker 1: back where? Two years ago last year, you went back
[57:09] Speaker 1: to Carolina. Yeah. To the gym? Yeah, when you went back.
[57:14] Speaker 1: I didn't see nobody when I went back. Not when
[57:16] Speaker 1: you went, but just the school. Just you being back and...
[57:20] Speaker 1: Like I said, with nobody there, I was in and out.
[57:23] Speaker 1: But how you feel? I was in and out. I
[57:25] Speaker 1: was in and out. My family still live there, so
[57:28] Speaker 1: I come to see the family. Motherfuckers say, you can't
[57:30] Speaker 1: come on campus, so I went on campus. I said, okay,
[57:32] Speaker 1: I'm here. What's up?
[57:33] Speaker 6: How y'all doing? I went to the Smith Center. I
[57:36] Speaker 6: seen Hubert and all them. Hey, what's up?
[57:38] Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah. They wouldn't let me downstairs. They said, you're
[57:42] Speaker 1: not allowed in this facility. Wow. Yeah. They took all
[57:45] Speaker 1: my shit down. You know what I'm saying? It's all good.
[57:47] Speaker 1: You know, I get booed. Bitches boo me, niggas boo me,
[57:52] Speaker 1: it's all good. They boo me as well. It's all good.
[57:57] Speaker 1: It's a different story. That feeling of when you leave
[58:01] Speaker 1: on your terms or the team gets rid of you,
[58:04] Speaker 1: that's different for the fans. I don't know if people
[58:06] Speaker 1: know that. It's a different feeling for the fans. Shout
[58:10] Speaker 1: out Bronny, too.
[58:12] Speaker 3: Bronny James, eight minutes, eight points, three for three. Back
[58:15] Speaker 3: at home. He was supposed to be playing the whole night.
[58:18] Speaker 3: He was in a little groove.
[58:22] Speaker 5: His first two points of his career was there.
[58:24] Speaker 1: His first bucket was in Cleveland. That's what I said.
[58:32] Speaker 5: If you were just a true fan of just basketball
[58:35] Speaker 5: and you're trying to write your story, it's hard to
[58:39] Speaker 5: beat this family's story Right? If you're a Cleveland fan
[58:44] Speaker 5: and you've been there since LeBron, I know you felt
[58:47] Speaker 5: some type of way watching him as a kid come
[58:52] Speaker 5: and put that jersey on and play and watch his highlights,
[58:55] Speaker 5: to him be a family man, watching his baby born,
[58:59] Speaker 5: watching the baby grow up, watching him run on the court,
[59:02] Speaker 5: do all this and do all that, to then see
[59:05] Speaker 5: him score his first bucket there, then to see him
[59:07] Speaker 5: come back and do this for you.
[59:10] Speaker 1: That, you know, as a fan, that's a very different feeling.
[59:12] Speaker 1: How was it, Shug? Did you cry?
[59:14] Speaker 6: Yes.
[59:15] Speaker 1: You did? So you cried for Brun? Twice. Emotional, huh?
[59:20] Speaker 1: Did you wipe the tears with a tissue or a towel?
[59:22] Speaker 1: I felt some type of way about it. Y'all ever
[59:25] Speaker 1: seen the Truman Show? Classic quality cinema. Good movie, man.
[59:31] Speaker 1: What it felt like, the Truman Show. It kind of do, right?
[59:35] Speaker 1: It kind of do. Watching his whole life. Right in
[59:39] Speaker 1: front of him. Hey, listen, I'm going to lie.
[59:44] Speaker 5: There's a difference between when you talk about the GOAT
[59:47] Speaker 5: debate and when you talk about how it ended. Two
[59:54] Speaker 5: of them so far, their mic dropped. I don't count
[59:58] Speaker 5: the Wizard Day. But their mic drop was on some
[1:00:02] Speaker 5: epic shit. Jordan's mic drop with the game went that epic.
[1:00:07] Speaker 5: Kobe finishing with six. Those are epic moments, man. That
[1:00:13] Speaker 5: when you started on greatness, ended on greatness.
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: That's epic. different. You're right in it. You know what
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: I mean? LeBron dropping 11 on three attempts shooting not
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: epic moment. So that would lead us to believe that
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: would lead me to believe that he's got one more.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: You know what?
[1:00:27] Speaker 6: Not his last time coming to Cleveland. I want to
[1:00:29] Speaker 6: make a bold prediction. His last year whatever team he's
[1:00:32] Speaker 6: on his last game will be in Cleveland.
[1:00:49] Speaker 5: Meaning the way that schedule, if he plays for the Lakers,
[1:00:52] Speaker 5: and next year, that last game of the season is
[1:00:57] Speaker 5: in Cleveland on a road trip, that's the end.
[1:01:00] Speaker 4: Any Western Conference team you're going to be on, if
[1:01:02] Speaker 4: you stay in the West, they're going to.
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: Make that the last game. Could his last game be
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: a home game in Cleveland? Yes. Or it can be
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: a home game. Or it can be a home game. Yes.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: Either way, it's ending in Cleveland. Next year when it
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: come out, I'm just looking all the way to the end.
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: It ain't ready yet. It ain't ready yet.
[1:01:21] Speaker 6: He told them that shit on the phone.
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: That's what they talked about. He told them that shit.
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: He told them the script. No, he told your ass
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: the script. You do have a relationship with players that
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: seem to know a lot. I'm sure that's going to happen.
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: It's just going to happen. I was going to ask
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: you about it later in the segment. Hey, Gil, you
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: better tell them niggas' eggs. Bron, obviously on an expiring
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: contract with the Lakers. Yeah, man. ARC need to go. ARC, R-C-A-R.
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: You got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah,
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: we ain't playing this shit. We got somebody we trying
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: to get, man. I got to push that.
[1:01:55] Speaker 5: We got to make that trade. We got AD coming back. Man,
[1:01:58] Speaker 5: we got Fox on the weather. We got a lot
[1:02:00] Speaker 5: of shit. You know, there's a lot of pieces. We
[1:02:02] Speaker 5: got to make it AR. Sorry to hear, man.
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: All the script, man. All the script, man. I'm trying
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: to be polite about it.
[1:02:10] Speaker 5: We got enough close enough to the West Coast now.
[1:02:13] Speaker 5: We got Fox just right here. We got AD just
[1:02:16] Speaker 5: right here. We got Zach Levine just right here. You
[1:02:19] Speaker 5: know what I mean? They all are under one roof.
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Real good. Real good.
[1:02:31] Speaker 10: Damn.
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: Okay. We just need a little help. Say all right.
[1:02:39] Speaker 1: Just come on, man. We need you, man. Do it
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: for the culture.
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: Brian also talked about potential having a farewell tour. Said
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: he hasn't had the conversation with himself or himself and
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: his family. on when he will actually retire, but said
[1:02:53] Speaker 3: he hasn't put much thought into a farewell tour. So Norris,
[1:02:54] Speaker 3: we had you on this couch previously, and you said
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: you could see it going either way with LeBron in
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: a farewell tour. He could either do it or he
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: could just ghost out the function.
[1:03:03] Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think him doing it is going to
[1:03:05] Speaker 4: get so much backlash. You know, so people are going
[1:03:10] Speaker 4: to show him his love, obviously, but then it's also
[1:03:12] Speaker 4: going to be the other side to it. But then
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: he also, it'll make you appreciate him more if he
[1:03:18] Speaker 4: don't say nothing. It'll make you tune in more because
[1:03:21] Speaker 4: you're going to always want to know, like, dang, is
[1:03:23] Speaker 4: he dipping out or is he not? So it's going
[1:03:24] Speaker 4: to force fans to go to those games and watch.
[1:03:27] Speaker 4: So I think either way, his personality don't seem like
[1:03:30] Speaker 4: the farewell tour type. But you might get talked into
[1:03:35] Speaker 4: it because, you know, you want to give the greats
[1:03:39] Speaker 4: their flowers in a special way. And I think he
[1:03:42] Speaker 4: would deserve a farewell tour if he wanted to do one.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: But if he didn't.
[1:03:45] Speaker 4: He always quote that Jay-Z line, you know, maybe they'll
[1:03:48] Speaker 4: appreciate me when I fade to black. He always say that,
[1:03:50] Speaker 4: so maybe that might be how he go out, you know.
[1:03:52] Speaker 4: He might just play his last year and be like,
[1:03:54] Speaker 4: I'm out. And if you ain't appreciate it, then you
[1:03:57] Speaker 4: ain't appreciate it. So I can see it going either way.
[1:04:02] Speaker 4: All right, well, that 98 year.
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, MJ didn't have the farewell because he didn't think that–
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: They documented everything. They did document it. They knew it
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: was the end, though.
[1:04:18] Speaker 5: But he didn't give a farewell tour because it was only,
[1:04:21] Speaker 5: I'm only retiring if Phil Jackson gets fired.
[1:04:24] Speaker 1: Well, they said they was going to come back. I
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: know he said he was going to get fired, but,
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: you know, calling a nigga bluff is one thing. Saying, yeah,
[1:04:29] Speaker 1: I'm going to fire you, you win three in a row,
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: and you still do it. That's bossy. Jerry Krause.
[1:04:34] Speaker 4: That's what he did. Not even Jerry Krause. The owner
[1:04:37] Speaker 4: had to clear that. Well, Osdorff could have overruled and said, nah,
[1:04:40] Speaker 4: I ain't doing it.
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: So the owner. And what happened? Shit. what happens to
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: the franchise they ain't been the same since.
[1:04:47] Speaker 13: Yeah alright so let's keep this thing moving still on
[1:04:53] Speaker 13: this topic but Donovan Mitchell led the Cavs with 25
[1:04:56] Speaker 13: points Jalen Tyson had 20 after the Cavs win ESPN
[1:05:00] Speaker 13: interviewed Mitchell and Tyson on the court with Tyson offering
[1:05:03] Speaker 13: these thoughts on LeBron's return to Cleveland.
[1:05:06] Speaker 5: And certainly this could be potentially LeBron's last game in
[1:05:09] Speaker 5: this building.
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: How would you characterize his impact on this city and franchise? Well,
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: you can say something, Jalen. This is Donovan Mitchell's city now.
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: This is Donovan Mitchell's city now.
[1:05:17] Speaker 9: When he comes back here, we're going to make sure
[1:05:19] Speaker 9: that everybody moves for him like they did for him.
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: So this is his stuff. This is his city. Yes, sir, Jalen. Donovan,
[1:05:24] Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on both?
[1:05:26] Speaker 14: As much as I appreciate that, you know, at the
[1:05:28] Speaker 14: end of the day, he laid the foundation, right? Like,
[1:05:30] Speaker 14: they've done a lot for the city being from here.
[1:05:33] Speaker 14: You know, obviously, you want to replicate that. You know
[1:05:35] Speaker 14: what I'm saying? So, he deserves the energy that he's
[1:05:38] Speaker 14: got here. At the end of the day, for his
[1:05:40] Speaker 14: title in 50-something.
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: Years, for us to try to do it, obviously, differently. But, like,
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're trying.
[1:05:45] Speaker 14: To find ways to go out there and bring our
[1:05:46] Speaker 14: city to another championship.
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: When you have support like that, you know what I mean,
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: for your teammates, man, it means the world.
[1:05:52] Speaker 3: Moments after that, the black SUVs pulled up to Rocket Arena,
[1:05:56] Speaker 3: and in his post-game availability, Tyson clarified his comment.
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there was.
[1:06:02] Speaker 9: No disrespect there. I didn't want to disrespect or step
[1:06:05] Speaker 9: on nobody's toes. That's one of the greatest players to
[1:06:08] Speaker 9: ever play a game. Obviously, I was a Cavs fan
[1:06:10] Speaker 9: growing up because of him, right? I didn't want to
[1:06:13] Speaker 9: take away him, but I just wanted to get Don
[1:06:15] Speaker 9: his flowers.
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: That was my biggest goal in it, and if I
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: offended anybody or anybody got mad about it, I'm sorry.
[1:06:22] Speaker 1: I take personal responsibility, but I just want to give
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: the man a chance. We want to do the same
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: thing that Brian and them did here. We want to
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: do that with him as our leader. Man, that boy,
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: that boy had a Jeff Teague moment.
[1:06:34] Speaker 6: The funny part about it, Donovan over there like, yeah.
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: That's that Jeff Teague, right? Remember Jeff Teague said something?
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: That phone started fluttering. Oh, shit. Hello? Yeah, I'll take
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: it off. I take it back. He got boomed on quick,
[1:06:49] Speaker 1: didn't he? He got boomed on. He said, I take responsibility.
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: He needed to. He was crying. I don't, listen, what
[1:06:58] Speaker 1: he said wasn't offensive, man. That's just what teammates do, right?
[1:07:01] Speaker 5: You know, because they're in there in real time. They're
[1:07:06] Speaker 5: doing exactly what we all do when whoever comes back.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: This is our city now. You old news. That's just basketball, man. So...
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: The teammate did exactly what a teammate do. He going
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: to overhype you. He going to put that batter in
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: your back. You know, Donovan didn't fall for it. It's
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: not like he's a professional. Fucking bossy, right? What the
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: score was. What he said. What he said. Jalen Tyson,
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: 23 years old. I know. I don't. It wasn't offensive.
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: It's considered normal behavior from an athlete. of a teammate.
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: We watched him get praised. Like, ah, damn, I didn't
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: know y'all got that loud. You know? And it's like, yo, hey,
[1:07:53] Speaker 1: we good. Mitchell! So, you know. Donovan Mitchell's sitting there.
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: He don't have to apologize, man. You did what you
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: needed to do as a teammate. Yeah, I'm not apologizing
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: for that. You said what? I said I'm not apologizing
[1:08:10] Speaker 1: for that. I wouldn't have apologized. Yeah, the apologizing part
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: is crazy. I was about to say, he didn't have
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: to apologize. And the way he apologized, because it's like,
[1:08:18] Speaker 1: he didn't have to apologize. I was sticking up for
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: my team, man. Like, if I offended somebody, I didn't
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: mean to offend nobody, but I'm just looking out for
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: my guy. So, Bron is nobody? No, I don't think
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: he should have said that, though. I don't think he
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: should have apologized either, though. I'm just looking out for
[1:08:32] Speaker 1: my guy.
[1:08:33] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: He said what you said. He's 23 years old. That's
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: his bet. He beat me. I'm trying to get paid. No, no,
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: I hear y'all. Like, y'all wouldn't have did it. I'm
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: pretty sure he was thinking the same thing until he
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: looked on his phone. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, that's about you
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: can be traded to Budapest. Or you better apologize. I mean, hey,
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[1:08:55] Speaker 8: No, listen, if you got that much power, that you
[1:08:57] Speaker 8: should go back to Cleveland Right. See if you ain't
[1:09:00] Speaker 8: there and you got that much power Then you should
[1:09:02] Speaker 8: go back to clean.
[1:09:03] Speaker 5: I'm just thinking like that I'm pretty sure he don't
[1:09:05] Speaker 5: know what they told me on my phone until you
[1:09:07] Speaker 5: start looking at your phone.
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: That's fine. I feel you know The way you apologize
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: that was the sugar night shit.
[1:09:13] Speaker 6: I want to come I I take full responsibility.
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: He must have really got a real message. That was
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: a real message.
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: That's what you had to say when David Stern used
[1:09:36] Speaker 4: to make you apologize.
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: Hey, man, I took responsibility for my actions. I was like, dang.
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: You was just tripping. That's all. I mean, you ain't
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: got to apologize for it. You was just tripping. That's all.
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: Him acknowledging what he said, I agree with him 100%. Yeah,
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: I'm going to address it, but the apology, no, I'm
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: just looking out for my teammate. I feel my teammate, hey,
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: he's He is hooping. Shit, he doing his thing here. Yeah,
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: but let me tell you something. Scored 70 in that uniform,
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: didn't he? Yeah, so hey. No, that's fine. Yeah, he
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: scored 70 in that uniform, so hey. I can tell you,
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: and you can ask. Young fella was hooping too. You
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: can ask. Apologies. It was far-fetched. We played in the playoffs, right?
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: And you remember Deshaun caught him overrated? Let's just say this.
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: Them fans do not appreciate that. to the point where,
[1:10:31] Speaker 1: you know how, was it the Ritz? They took them all?
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: We couldn't go in the mall. We were not allowed
[1:10:40] Speaker 1: in that mall. No service.
[1:10:44] Speaker 5: They was not serving nobody. They wasn't telling us nothing.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: Nothing. The fans, they were in the hall waiting for smoke.
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: Deshaun said he had a layover. Deshaun would have fought
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: all of them. He had a layover in Atlanta and Ohio.
[1:11:08] Speaker 5: He said, dog, he said, I've never seen people so mad.
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: Like, I'm walking in the airport, and they're like, who
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: the fuck do you think you are?
[1:11:18] Speaker 5: He's like, old lady's walking up to me. He's like, man,
[1:11:20] Speaker 5: I had to hurry up and get the hell out
[1:11:21] Speaker 5: of there. He said, from then, I never wanted no
[1:11:24] Speaker 5: layovers in Ohio. Like, it was really rough for us
[1:11:28] Speaker 5: after that.
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: First and foremost, where the fuck you going when you
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: got a layover in Ohio is what I want to know.
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: Why you have a layover in Cleveland, Dayton, or Cincinnati? Man.
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: Where the fuck are you going? Remember, he lived in Orlando,
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: so every day was layover. That's Atlanta. You going from Atlanta.
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: You stopping in Atlanta from Orlando to go where? Where
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: are you going when your layover is fucking anywhere in Ohio?
[1:11:54] Speaker 1: Especially in Cleveland. Right? Right. I've never been to Cleveland Airport.
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: I mean, who has? I lived there, and I know
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: there ain't no... I mean, I'm just saying, like, I mean... Yeah,
[1:12:04] Speaker 1: I've never been. No layover there. Couldn't tell you what
[1:12:06] Speaker 1: the inside of the Cleveland Airport looks like. I would
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: tell you... I know Chicago's, though. Couldn't tell you what
[1:12:15] Speaker 1: the inside O'Hare looks like? No. Never been inside O'Hare?
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: I don't... Maybe once. Magnificent airport. I fly to Chicago.
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: Maybe once. Two times... Max. Big three? No, damn, we did.
[1:12:30] Speaker 1: Big three was that? We did twice. So that was it.
[1:12:36] Speaker 1: Before the draft. Our pre-draft shift. That was work, but
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: I couldn't. We ain't paying attention. Not at all. Where'd
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: it go? What?
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: Someone else went down the game. Scary moment for the
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: Lakers earlier in the game involving Luka Doncic as he
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: became the latest victim of the Cavs' elevated court. Let's
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: take a look at what happened here. Lucas shooting a
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: jump shot in the first quarter when he backed off
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: the court.
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: He did it three times.
[1:13:07] Speaker 3: Landed awkwardly, fell to the ground, injuring his left ankle,
[1:13:11] Speaker 3: stayed on the ground for several moments. Luke had this
[1:13:17] Speaker 3: reaction after suffering the injury.
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: His first, his second.
[1:13:24] Speaker 6: Who the f * * * made this floor, goddammit?
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: Who the f * * * made this floor? Goddammit.
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: Jesus made the floor. I'm for a Slovenian's jeep. He
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: be complaining about it. Look at what you're the rock
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: and roll bridge. Everything.
[1:13:42] Speaker 6: I've been watching him closely the last game.
[1:13:47] Speaker 8: He complains about everything.
[1:13:51] Speaker 6: I've been watching him very closely.
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: He complains about everything. Who the F made this floor?
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: Too hot, too cold. He tried to get a motherfucker
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: kicked out the game in the stands, too.
[1:14:01] Speaker 3: Can we see the Luka clip one more time, just please,
[1:14:03] Speaker 3: for quality information?
[1:14:13] Speaker 6: Speak good English.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: Return later in the quarter.
[1:14:19] Speaker 3: I went on to face 29.6 to 65 rebounds in
[1:14:22] Speaker 3: the loss. Uh, Lucas said his first thought was about Miami.
[1:14:25] Speaker 3: He guard drew Smith who suffered a season ending torn
[1:14:28] Speaker 3: ACL back in 2023. After slipping off the court, he
[1:14:30] Speaker 3: was going to contest a shot landed awkwardly as well.
[1:14:33] Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of NBA courts are elevated to some degree,
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: a quick drop off from the Cavs court, uh, It's
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: been a concern for years. How big of an issue
[1:14:42] Speaker 3: is that Cavs elevated court?
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll try to stay within the
[1:14:50] Speaker 1: lines of the game. It's 94-50. That motherfucker is 94-50.
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: We didn't play on so many courts. All of a
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: sudden now, niggas don't know how to stay on the court.
[1:14:59] Speaker 1: All the time I was outside of that, I was
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: subbing in and subbing out. And I had a lot
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: of room right there. Right. There's a lot of room
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: out there. There's only 10 of us. There's 10 of us.
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: That's a lot of space. That motherfucker, 94 by 50.
[1:15:15] Speaker 6: We ain't never had a problem in Cleveland.
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: I assumed all the courses. I'm looking at it like,
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: that's normal.
[1:15:23] Speaker 6: Thinking that the Lakers like that say every court a
[1:15:26] Speaker 6: little bit of drop off.
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: They have hockey arena, right? They like this like that
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: motherfucking University of Minnesota. Yeah, so everything like that.
[1:15:34] Speaker 6: Well, I'm a dangerous University of Minnesota court and drop
[1:15:38] Speaker 6: on it.
[1:15:38] Speaker 1: Now you die. Chase the loose ball over that moment.
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: If you want to. Hey, crazy.
[1:15:52] Speaker 6: We playin' at that motherfuckin' nigga, I had a horrible game.
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: Man, hell nah. Gotta walk up the motherfuckin' sub end,
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: like what do, the fuckin' scores tables across the court, like, hey,
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: where I go to sub in? They're like, just get up,
[1:16:07] Speaker 1: stand up, and let him know. Let him know you
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: about to go in. They can't see you otherwise. Phoenix
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: don't have it, right? Because it's only the arenas that
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: have hockey gyms. Hockey arenas. Doesn't Phoenix have ice under it? No,
[1:16:22] Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, no, they have hockey. They have
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: a hockey team. No, they had one back then. When?
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: I ain't never. Did they? Yeah. Who? Phoenix? They don't
[1:16:32] Speaker 1: play there. They used to win. They don't play there anymore.
[1:16:36] Speaker 5: They don't play there anymore? Remember, there was the coldest arena.
[1:16:38] Speaker 5: You remember, that used to be the coldest arena.
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: Fuck they moved.
[1:16:43] Speaker 3: Yes, one of our producers moved to Utah 2020 for
[1:16:45] Speaker 3: as you know, not well versed in a lot 2024
[1:16:47] Speaker 3: but they did have previously Played in Boston Boston for
[1:16:54] Speaker 3: no scoffs Boston will cold as fuck Remember, they're not.
[1:16:57] Speaker 1: Gonna turn the heat on, you know, like most arenas
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: are turning heat on but they don't turn the heat
[1:17:01] Speaker 1: on too much.
[1:17:01] Speaker 5: Because the ice about if it's ice if it's like
[1:17:03] Speaker 5: a game after and then it starts coming up makes
[1:17:06] Speaker 5: the course.
[1:17:06] Speaker 1: Of Phoenix Coyotes from 96 to 2014, then became the
[1:17:10] Speaker 1: Arizona Coyotes 2014 to 2024. Damn, didn't know. Boston is ruthless, though.
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: There's no air conditioning, and the showers are cold.
[1:17:17] Speaker 4: I was about to say, they turn the heat off
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: for the showers, too.
[1:17:19] Speaker 1: If you beat them, the shower's cold. Oh, no, Minnesota
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: Timberwolves are like that. Really? Sacramento just didn't have heat.
[1:17:30] Speaker 8: That's one of the best arenas to play in, though.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: That Arco. I'm just talking about as far as like...
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: You mean Oracle? Oracle, yeah. The arena. No, I'm talking
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: about as far as like getting out there hooping. Where?
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: Because of the depth. It's one of the best shooting gyms. Who? SAC? Yeah, SAC.
[1:17:44] Speaker 1: Back in the day?
[1:17:44] Speaker 6: The old Arco Arena? The play-in?
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: Yes. Arco? Yeah, I used to love playing in there.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: The Mets. Yeah.
[1:17:51] Speaker 8: And because the depth behind the rim is closer, so
[1:17:54] Speaker 8: it's like a high school gym to me.
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: That shit was nasty. That motherfucking arena was fucking terrible.
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: So Cal's court not that big? Plano? Nah, not that
[1:18:01] Speaker 1: I know of. I'm just saying. Yeah, I couldn't have
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: told you that court was paid like that. We played
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: there a lot. Nasty. Each one. You played there a lot.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: You played playoff games there. You played in other. Never. Never, right?
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: I played in Eastern Conference. I never had to go
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: to no court. Who the F made this for? Were
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: the old Warriors used to play? That arena was good
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: to play in.
[1:18:26] Speaker 5: Who the fuck is running out here?
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: We didn't even have those seats. The three hops. You're
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: trying to sell some shit. Karate Kid hops. You're not
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: playing at home. They're going to move the fuck out
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: the way. Like they did. You at home, the home
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: to the conch, wherever the grabs you probably. On the road,
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: they getting the fuck out the way. Take some loose
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: ball over if you want to, you go hit these chairs.
[1:18:52] Speaker 1: What is different though? What you mean?
[1:18:55] Speaker 5: Because how would he fall out? Was that table longer
[1:19:01] Speaker 5: for advertising back when we played?
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: I was just chairs there.
[1:19:06] Speaker 5: He was in front of the behavior that they said, remember,
[1:19:09] Speaker 5: that was because they didn't sell those seats when we play.
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: What was there then?
[1:19:20] Speaker 5: Now, but we played it, but I'm just saying, what
[1:19:22] Speaker 5: would have been there if it wasn't fan seats?
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: So it went from nothing, right? It was just it
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: was never just empty. It was who? That's what it
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: is now, right? No, it's Rocket Arena. Rocket, it was
[1:19:34] Speaker 1: Quicken Loans for a while. It was Quicken Loans. I
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: was in college, it was the Q. I'm saying opening
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: in 94 and then... Quicken Loans, I remember they used
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: to put the motherfucking wings in that bucket. I'm just saying, like,
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: how does he fall out? I don't remember a space...
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: Can we see the Luka injury again? Between that and
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: the table. Yeah, okay. The Karate Kid hops. Oh, and
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: that's the Lakers. That's him. That's the guy.
[1:20:04] Speaker 6: She could have saved his ass, too. I don't want
[1:20:06] Speaker 6: to say that. She let the nigga fall. Hold on.
[1:20:09] Speaker 1: Go to my bed. Fuck my seat. Yo, go back.
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: One more time. Where's that? Lady. Think about it. Lady.
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: That seat. Lady. Lady. That's the trainer, too. That's the trainer.
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: That's where the trainers used to be, right? Look where
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: her feet is. But look where her feet is. She moved.
[1:20:34] Speaker 1: So he didn't step on her shit. But she moved
[1:20:37] Speaker 1: her shit on him. Go back, man.
[1:20:39] Speaker 6: They see it on the floor. They see it on
[1:20:41] Speaker 6: the ground. Yeah, but look where her feet is. Her feet,
[1:20:43] Speaker 6: she knows it's a drop-off. Her feet on the ground, too.
[1:20:48] Speaker 6: Her feet, so she knows it's a drop-off.
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: I've never seen that. And she moves that fuck out. Yeah,
[1:20:53] Speaker 1: she should be fired. She's a fucking trainer. Oh, nah, nah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: That's the trainer's seat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax. Don't be
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: trying to fire our medical staff. So, she what? Huh?
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: She what? She is the Lakers. And? And that is
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: a Cleveland. You almost lost your guy. You almost lost
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: your guy for the rest of the season. It should
[1:21:16] Speaker 1: have been a seat right there. Cleveland didn't give us
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: enough seats because he just went right through that space. No,
[1:21:23] Speaker 1: she's the first seat. The trainer sits in the first seat. Yeah,
[1:21:26] Speaker 1: but that's the extra space. Why she move her leg?
[1:21:28] Speaker 1: Why she move her shit? Don't step on my white shoes.
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: Because he's probably a little heavier than she is.
[1:21:33] Speaker 6: A little heavy and introspective.
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: She know how much. She the trainer, bro. For her
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: not to. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Push him up.
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: You know he coming that way. You know that you
[1:21:47] Speaker 1: ain't going to put your hands in the man's back,
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: try to stop him falling off the floor. My job
[1:21:51] Speaker 1: is to tape ankles. That's what I'm doing. He just
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: got injured. It'll be too much trouble. Take him to
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: the back. That's what I'm here for. Take him to
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: the back. Let's go to the back.
[1:22:04] Speaker 6: Let's get some more work.
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: Let's retake this motherfucker. Yeah, let me go do some
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: more work. I got a new tape job. I got
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: to go get my job. Let me try it out. Oh, shit,
[1:22:13] Speaker 1: I got to do my job. I just ordered this
[1:22:19] Speaker 1: new supply of new tape they made out there. It's
[1:22:21] Speaker 1: supposed to be a little more giving. Put a little
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: horseshoe on there. I got a back. I got a back.
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: Jordan just made this new tape we want to try
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: out on you. Let's keep this thing moving.
[1:22:36] Speaker 3: Boston Stoves is one of the most surprising teams in
[1:22:39] Speaker 3: the league this season thanks to some strong play by
[1:22:41] Speaker 3: former Finals MVP Jalen Brown. So after their win over
[1:22:44] Speaker 3: the Blazers Monday, former Celtic Drew Holiday was asked if
[1:22:46] Speaker 3: he was surprised with Boston's success this season and had
[1:22:49] Speaker 3: this response.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: Not that surprised. I mean, I knew that they'd be well.
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: They'd do well.
[1:22:58] Speaker 15: Knowing the type of determination that this coaching staff and
[1:23:01] Speaker 15: organization has, being with this team for a couple years
[1:23:04] Speaker 15: now and knowing the type of players that they are
[1:23:06] Speaker 15: and how to prepare, I figured that they'd be good.
[1:23:10] Speaker 15: And then obviously knowing Jalen, I feel like he takes
[1:23:13] Speaker 15: a lot of things personally, so he doesn't accept a lot,
[1:23:18] Speaker 15: especially when it comes to being bad.
[1:23:20] Speaker 3: So, Brown was asked about Holiday's comments on the Celtics
[1:23:23] Speaker 3: this season and had this response.
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything personally.
[1:23:29] Speaker 16: You know, I'm always looking for something, you know, but, yeah,
[1:23:35] Speaker 16: I feel like I've sacrificed over the years in order
[1:23:38] Speaker 16: for us to be a championship caliber team, and I
[1:23:40] Speaker 16: think now, I think we're getting to see that a
[1:23:44] Speaker 16: little bit, what exactly I was capable of and what
[1:23:47] Speaker 16: I was sacrificing. I think before, maybe, it wasn't so obvious.
[1:23:51] Speaker 16: I think now, I think being able to be at
[1:23:54] Speaker 16: the helm of things and us being the second seed
[1:23:58] Speaker 16: in the East versus last year, we finished second seed
[1:24:01] Speaker 16: in the East. It's almost been no drop-off with four players,
[1:24:05] Speaker 16: five players that are essentially gone.
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: I feel like that, the work.
[1:24:12] Speaker 16: from the coaching staff, the work, from our leadership has
[1:24:16] Speaker 16: been great. And, you know, I just try to make
[1:24:18] Speaker 16: myself available every single night.
[1:24:22] Speaker 3: Strong words there, Murphy. I saw you smiling while Jalen
[1:24:24] Speaker 3: Brown was saying that. Celtics currently tied with the Knicks'
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: second-best record in the East, 29-18. They are third, I think,
[1:24:30] Speaker 3: due to tiebreakers, but have the same record. Jalen Brown
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: played a 45 of the Celtics' 47 games this season.
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: Average career-high 29 points, seven rebounds, five assists. Mr. B,
[1:24:40] Speaker 3: to start with you, do you respect Jalen Brown's mentality
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: this season?
[1:24:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
[1:24:46] Speaker 7: I feel like his mentality has always been like that.
[1:24:50] Speaker 7: Now he's just got to finish the season off. He's
[1:24:53] Speaker 7: halfway there. They could probably get Jason Tatum back. So
[1:24:59] Speaker 7: we'll just see what happens then, but you know, you
[1:25:00] Speaker 7: got to finish off the season You know, he's having
[1:25:02] Speaker 7: a season like Scottie Pippen when Jordan when Jordan left.
[1:25:04] Speaker 7: Hey Scottie Pippen came in I think third and MVP
[1:25:07] Speaker 7: voting or something like that. So he did he still
[1:25:10] Speaker 7: got a lot more work to do But I like
[1:25:12] Speaker 7: this confidence and I like where they're at with him
[1:25:14] Speaker 7: being a number one guy.
[1:25:16] Speaker 3: What you like the conference of Jalen Browns and mentality
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: he has this season obviously I think the Celtics come
[1:25:20] Speaker 3: this season respected to win somewhere in the 40 to
[1:25:22] Speaker 3: 41 game range be a 500 team lost a lot
[1:25:24] Speaker 3: of key members of their championship squad, Jason Tatum, down
[1:25:28] Speaker 3: with the Achilles.
[1:25:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I mean, he's a competitor.
[1:25:32] Speaker 4: I think any good player, you know, when they have
[1:25:36] Speaker 4: an opportunity to do more, wants to show that they
[1:25:38] Speaker 4: can do more. And I think he's just showing that, hey,
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: you know, I've been playing the team role, but, you know,
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: I can also do a little bit more. So, yeah,
[1:25:46] Speaker 4: I think he's showing, you know, why some people think,
[1:25:50] Speaker 4: you know, he should probably be the number one option
[1:25:53] Speaker 4: on the team. You know, he's trying to, you know,
[1:25:54] Speaker 4: he's showing that his finals MVP and stuff, you know,
[1:25:58] Speaker 4: why people can say maybe he's the best player on
[1:26:01] Speaker 4: the team, you know?
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: So he's, he's kind of showing those.
[1:26:04] Speaker 4: People who believe that that is legit, you know, and
[1:26:07] Speaker 4: it's hard to argue with the results that he put in,
[1:26:08] Speaker 4: but like he said, he got a lot more work
[1:26:10] Speaker 4: to do, but like, I like what he's showing.
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: I like what he's showing.
[1:26:14] Speaker 3: Do you respect Jalen Brown's mentality this season taking over?
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: That's the number one option.
[1:26:19] Speaker 3: Obviously, we had discussions previously here in Gills Arena presented
[1:26:21] Speaker 3: by Underdog Woo-Woo about who was the number one option
[1:26:24] Speaker 3: on the Celtics squad.
[1:26:26] Speaker 1: After the first.
[1:26:30] Speaker 5: December, just those 10 games that he played answered everything
[1:26:39] Speaker 5: that I had to say about him. Sometimes you get
[1:26:45] Speaker 5: put in a situation to be the number one option
[1:26:48] Speaker 5: And sometimes your mouth is bigger than that responsibility, but
[1:26:51] Speaker 5: it wasn't for him.
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: He's put that team, where did they have them? 40
[1:26:56] Speaker 1: and what? 40 and what? What was this supposed to be?
[1:27:00] Speaker 1: 40 to 41 wins, I think it was. So the
[1:27:02] Speaker 1: fact that he.
[1:27:05] Speaker 5: With four players leaving, he has them in a position
[1:27:11] Speaker 5: to fight for number one in the East, definitely number
[1:27:13] Speaker 5: two to number three in the East. And he's challenged
[1:27:20] Speaker 5: the system of what sacrifice really means.
[1:27:24] Speaker 1: That is really the real narrative is number two options.
[1:27:33] Speaker 5: Have to sacrifice so much that you don't know how
[1:27:37] Speaker 5: good they are until they're put in a situation.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: So he got put in a situation. He's like, look,
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: this is what I can do.
[1:27:46] Speaker 5: So me going back, if I do go back, I'm
[1:27:50] Speaker 5: going back because this is where I fit for us
[1:27:53] Speaker 5: to win. So y'all told us to win. This is
[1:27:56] Speaker 5: how we put our team together to win. But if
[1:27:59] Speaker 5: you want me to come out here and show you
[1:28:01] Speaker 5: I'm Superman, I can show you I'm Superman. So what
[1:28:04] Speaker 5: I don't like is this. Out of everybody who questioned
[1:28:08] Speaker 5: the media, you put them at 41 and 41 or
[1:28:09] Speaker 5: 40 and 42.
[1:28:10] Speaker 1: They're not.
[1:28:15] Speaker 5: His production is MVP production. Why aren't you yelling it
[1:28:18] Speaker 5: out loud? He's overexceeding where y'all had him. You had
[1:28:24] Speaker 5: him here.
[1:28:25] Speaker 1: They're here. So why aren't you giving him the credit
[1:28:28] Speaker 1: for it? It was no different than.
[1:28:30] Speaker 5: You know, Kobe when that team was supposed to be
[1:28:33] Speaker 5: dead last in the West and they made the playoffs.
[1:28:35] Speaker 5: Why aren't you giving the credit to the person for
[1:28:38] Speaker 5: your wrong prediction? And I don't like, like, the only
[1:28:44] Speaker 5: thing that was loud this year was they wanted to
[1:28:46] Speaker 5: talk about the makeup.
[1:28:48] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The Beijing? The Beijing. The Beijing was the
[1:28:52] Speaker 1: biggest thing you.
[1:28:53] Speaker 5: Want to say about his game?
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Not that he's averaging 29, 6 and 6. That's the
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: biggest thing of his game. I mean, he was like...
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: But that's crazy. You have to be able to say
[1:29:05] Speaker 1: you was wrong. Yep.
[1:29:07] Speaker 4: But you know, he challenged the system. That's why they ain't.
[1:29:09] Speaker 1: Giving him his praise. You got to be able to
[1:29:10] Speaker 1: say you was wrong. Have they ever? No. So, shit,
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: they're not going to start now. I know what you're saying.
[1:29:16] Speaker 1: They're not going to start now. If you say you
[1:29:17] Speaker 1: couldn't do it and he doesn't, you got to say, yeah,
[1:29:19] Speaker 1: my bad. I'm locked with you now. The apology ain't
[1:29:22] Speaker 1: never loud as the accusation, bro. Like, it ain't. I
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: got my Jalen Brown. The booze don't always be louder
[1:29:29] Speaker 1: than the cheers. I got my Jalen Brown jersey. Credibility.
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: I'm team K. Yeah, I got the California one. Number zero.
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: Kyle Berkeley. Just talking about the Boston Green. Former Pac-12 man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
[1:29:41] Speaker 1: so he's not in the MVP conversation, which we think
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: he should. When the other guy that was there that's
[1:29:49] Speaker 1: played out of his mind, he was never in the
[1:29:51] Speaker 1: MVP conversation either. I think that's a bigger conversation. Why
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: aren't they? Why aren't they? Whatever they're doing, doing their...
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: Brown currently six. But that's not in the conversation. Okay,
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: you would know this better. That's not in the conversation. Is...
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: Is Boston, like, the Duke of the NBA? Yes. Yes. Like,
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: you just don't play? Yes. You know what I mean?
[1:30:17] Speaker 1: Just don't because of success, man. Yes. Because of history
[1:30:20] Speaker 1: and winning, I guess. But, yeah, I think so. I
[1:30:25] Speaker 1: think so. Whatever it is, brother. Whatever it is, it
[1:30:28] Speaker 1: just irritates me. Yeah, whatever. I think that's what it is.
[1:30:30] Speaker 1: It's just, like, grimy. Like, you never feel that griminess
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: when you go in that building. It's just like, it's
[1:30:35] Speaker 1: just different. It's like, you know. That's a great, that's
[1:30:38] Speaker 1: a great point, Gil. Like, it's just, never thought about it. Grimy. Yeah,
[1:30:43] Speaker 1: but no, for, yeah, no, Jalen Brown definitely is deserving
[1:30:46] Speaker 1: to be hired in that conversation in six. From what
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: he's doing for this team, with their guy being out.
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: But I'm just interested, like, So you said the number
[1:31:05] Speaker 1: two guy sacrifices. But I'm like, how in this NBA
[1:31:12] Speaker 1: when there's two main guys? What is he sacrificing? Because
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: normally it's everybody else get in where you fit in.
[1:31:21] Speaker 1: Them two go do them, and everybody else get in
[1:31:24] Speaker 1: where they fit in. So what has been the sacrifice?
[1:31:30] Speaker 5: The sacrifice is more of, if he's taking 20 shots,
[1:31:38] Speaker 5: I'm going to take 16. I'm going to give up
[1:31:41] Speaker 5: something to give the number three a little bit more, right?
[1:31:45] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like a pecking order.
[1:31:48] Speaker 5: You know how the game is versus you average 29,
[1:31:51] Speaker 5: I average 29, and we both shining. Like somebody is
[1:31:53] Speaker 5: taking the back seat to the play calling.
[1:31:55] Speaker 1: For sure.
[1:31:56] Speaker 5: You're going to get 20 calls. I'm going to get
[1:31:57] Speaker 5: about 15. I got to figure another way. You know,
[1:31:59] Speaker 5: so there is a back seat to it. It's just
[1:32:02] Speaker 5: a natural progression. Just like Jordan, then Scottie Pippen. Like, oh, shit,
[1:32:06] Speaker 5: we didn't know you can do this by yourself, Scottie.
[1:32:08] Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, you know what I mean? I got MJ,
[1:32:10] Speaker 5: so I'm just going to do everything MJ don't do.
[1:32:13] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's one and all. I'm
[1:32:14] Speaker 1: going to just do everything he don't do to complete
[1:32:17] Speaker 1: this team out. And that's usually what happens. And sometimes
[1:32:21] Speaker 1: because we see it for so long, we don't know
[1:32:23] Speaker 1: how good number two is sometimes. Oh, we know because
[1:32:27] Speaker 1: it don't go without the number one can't do it
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: without number two. They can't do it without each other.
[1:32:31] Speaker 1: So that's my thing. Who's we? I'm speaking of the
[1:32:36] Speaker 1: number one and number two guy. We didn't know Westbrook
[1:32:40] Speaker 1: had triple, double. I'm talking about the number one guy
[1:32:42] Speaker 1: and the number two guy. Just so happen we're talking
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: about Jalen Brown, and we all knew how good Jalen
[1:32:47] Speaker 1: Brown was. It wasn't a secret how good Jalen Brown was.
[1:32:51] Speaker 1: Before this year, we knew how good Jalen Brown was.
[1:32:54] Speaker 6: You knew he was this good, though?
[1:32:56] Speaker 1: Yes. I did. I didn't. I did. I knew before
[1:32:58] Speaker 1: this year because they— These things ain't just come out
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: the air of people questioning who team it was. It
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: just didn't start now. It just didn't start because Jason
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: Tatum's out. We just didn't start last year. It's been
[1:33:12] Speaker 1: a thing, right? Remember who started that conversation of whose
[1:33:15] Speaker 1: team it was? It's been a thing. Did that conversation
[1:33:18] Speaker 1: start at Gills Arena? I just asked a simple question.
[1:33:21] Speaker 6: Do you remember who questioned whose team it was? Based
[1:33:26] Speaker 6: on the talent level and the potential that this guy
[1:33:29] Speaker 6: could do what he's doing right now. And somebody said, hey, listen,
[1:33:32] Speaker 6: if this dude don't get his shit together, we can
[1:33:36] Speaker 6: do this with just him. We can do this with
[1:33:40] Speaker 6: just him. He good enough. But with both of them. Yeah,
[1:33:45] Speaker 6: we can win some shit. We can both of them
[1:33:47] Speaker 6: on the same accord. Yeah, but this dude is good enough.
[1:33:50] Speaker 1: So for sure. So there's both sides. He do his thing.
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: So let's fast forward when Jason Tatum does come back, right?
[1:34:02] Speaker 1: Does he continue with now? Is it the same thing?
[1:34:06] Speaker 1: So now do you defer them three, four more shots still?
[1:34:10] Speaker 1: Now we're talking about success. Yes. Right? And it always
[1:34:16] Speaker 1: presents itself. Right? When Michael Jordan came back, Scottie Pippen
[1:34:22] Speaker 1: could have said, hold on, bro. I was third in MVP.
[1:34:25] Speaker 1: Give me one more year. Or....
[1:34:28] Speaker 5: We know we win in championship if you number one.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: So I'm not even gonna challenge you, boss man. We
[1:34:33] Speaker 1: know that, right? Yes. So that's my thing. Right?
[1:34:35] Speaker 5: So, Westbrook and KD. When KD left, Westbrook said, oh,
[1:34:42] Speaker 5: this is what the number one tastes like.
[1:34:44] Speaker 1: I don't know if I can give it back. That's
[1:34:46] Speaker 1: where that bump starts. Yes. Right?
[1:34:48] Speaker 5: So there's been situations. So, This is not a Tatum issue.
[1:34:53] Speaker 5: This is a Brown issue. When Tatum comes back.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking. Is he going to be like, hey,
[1:34:59] Speaker 1: boss man, hey. Yeah. Hey, I had fun like a motherfucker, boy.
[1:35:02] Speaker 1: Y'all see what I did? Yeah. All right, we trying
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: to win championships again. Here go the keys. Call me
[1:35:08] Speaker 1: when you need me. I'm going to be here doing
[1:35:11] Speaker 1: what I do best. It's on him. Because if he
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: challenges it, then you're going to have to pick. Or
[1:35:16] Speaker 1: they walk into the car and both of them go
[1:35:18] Speaker 1: into the driver's side. Yes.
[1:35:21] Speaker 5: Usually, they both go to the driver's seat, and then
[1:35:24] Speaker 5: that's where the fall-off comes in. I hope it doesn't
[1:35:27] Speaker 5: happen for them because they have built something there together,
[1:35:31] Speaker 5: doing it together. It's just unfortunate that Jason Tatum's injury
[1:35:35] Speaker 5: happened now.
[1:35:36] Speaker 1: It will be a conversation. You know what I think?
[1:35:39] Speaker 5: Watching Jalen this year, I think this year, For him,
[1:35:47] Speaker 5: it's kind of all he really needed.
[1:35:51] Speaker 1: Y'all didn't think I can do it. Ha. I proved it. Right?
[1:35:58] Speaker 1: I don't need to prove my game to y'all no more. Gotcha.
[1:36:02] Speaker 5: Y'all challenged it. Y'all asked if I can do it.
[1:36:05] Speaker 5: Y'all counted us out.
[1:36:07] Speaker 1: We are here. I did it now. Tatum is back.
[1:36:11] Speaker 5: We're going to go back and start whooping ass together again.
[1:36:14] Speaker 5: I'm not going to let you break us up. This
[1:36:16] Speaker 5: ain't about whose team it is. Who cares?
[1:36:19] Speaker 1: It's ours. It's Boston. I'm going to go win.
[1:36:21] Speaker 5: That looks like the mind of him. I don't think
[1:36:25] Speaker 5: he's going to fall into, yeah, I like this.
[1:36:27] Speaker 1: Hey, this is my team, right? He don't come off
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: like that. I think he wants to win. I think
[1:36:32] Speaker 1: winning for Jalen Brown is the most important thing. And
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: how he approaches the game. Yeah. So... I definitely understand
[1:36:41] Speaker 1: what you're saying.
[1:36:42] Speaker 6: So I'll apologize to Jalen because I said they were
[1:36:45] Speaker 6: cooked this year. They were cooked completely with all the
[1:36:49] Speaker 6: trades and him being down men that could help him
[1:36:52] Speaker 6: get to where he needed to go. But he was
[1:36:54] Speaker 6: able to prove me wrong and take those guys that
[1:37:00] Speaker 6: were seen as underachievers, underdeveloped guys that could be role
[1:37:05] Speaker 6: players for guys that he could take to the next level,
[1:37:08] Speaker 6: got them at three. He got him playing well. Joe
[1:37:11] Speaker 6: got him playing well. His leadership is showing at a
[1:37:14] Speaker 6: maximum level now. He was able to pick up his production.
[1:37:18] Speaker 6: He's working with Jamal Lovell, a.k.a. Dashletics. Got him in
[1:37:23] Speaker 6: peak form, doing a lot of the things that has
[1:37:27] Speaker 6: been talked about over the last two or three years.
[1:37:29] Speaker 6: And I know he probably felt some type of way
[1:37:32] Speaker 6: about my comments, which were motivational at the least to
[1:37:36] Speaker 6: see if he could take it to the next level.
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: And he has.
[1:37:40] Speaker 6: And he's been definitely proven exactly what I thought he
[1:37:44] Speaker 6: could prove when I was a Boston Celtics fan and
[1:37:47] Speaker 6: we won the chip. And he was the driving force
[1:37:50] Speaker 6: to that and challenging Jason Tatum to step it up
[1:37:52] Speaker 6: or this guy's going to take it over. He's going
[1:37:54] Speaker 6: to take it over. And so now when he comes back.
[1:37:57] Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be no dangling of
[1:37:59] Speaker 6: the keys or handing over the keys. It's always been
[1:38:02] Speaker 6: this type of leadership in place. I think Jalen Brown
[1:38:04] Speaker 6: has always known where he stands, where it comes to
[1:38:07] Speaker 6: Jason and how good he is. And the type of
[1:38:09] Speaker 6: leeway you got to have and give a player like
[1:38:12] Speaker 6: him for him to be able to be as good
[1:38:14] Speaker 6: as he is. You got to be able to be like, look, bro,
[1:38:16] Speaker 6: just like D-Wade and LeBron down in Miami. D-Wade had
[1:38:20] Speaker 6: to let LeBron be LeBron in order for that to
[1:38:23] Speaker 6: really flourish. So Jalen Brown's like, look, I gotta let
[1:38:26] Speaker 6: JT be JT but when he can't do what he
[1:38:29] Speaker 6: supposed to do I'm gonna pick up the pieces I'm
[1:38:31] Speaker 6: gonna be that nigga that's gonna be like nah I
[1:38:33] Speaker 6: got it I got it from here I'm ready so
[1:38:36] Speaker 6: when that's the case and we can see it now
[1:38:39] Speaker 6: like I said when JT sitting there seeing him do
[1:38:41] Speaker 6: this stuff he's like man where am I where do
[1:38:43] Speaker 6: I fit in if we three right now with just
[1:38:49] Speaker 6: him We can definitely run it back when I come back,
[1:38:55] Speaker 6: for sure. I just need to find a piece where
[1:38:57] Speaker 6: I'm not disrupting what he's doing. He's got a flow going.
[1:39:01] Speaker 6: He's got his own shit going. If I don't disrupt
[1:39:03] Speaker 6: what he's doing, I've got a chance.
[1:39:10] Speaker 7: I really don't care. I don't care if Boston wins
[1:39:12] Speaker 7: or not. I just want Jalen Brown to do good.
[1:39:15] Speaker 7: I don't want to see Boston Celtics win at all.
[1:39:18] Speaker 7: I just like to see Jalen Brown. Yeah, I don't
[1:39:19] Speaker 7: want to see him win at all. I don't want
[1:39:22] Speaker 7: to be living in the era of watching Boston win.
[1:39:24] Speaker 7: So personally, as an L.A.
[1:39:26] Speaker 1: Fan, but, you know.
[1:39:27] Speaker 4: I think next year when the East get back healthy,
[1:39:29] Speaker 4: you're going to need JT back on the team, though.
[1:39:32] Speaker 4: Like this year, the East is wide open because every
[1:39:34] Speaker 4: injury is to a lot of different stars, a lot
[1:39:36] Speaker 4: of different teams.
[1:39:36] Speaker 1: Next year.
[1:39:37] Speaker 4: the East is probably going to be a lot better
[1:39:39] Speaker 4: after trades shake out and people get back healthy. So
[1:39:41] Speaker 4: I think the both of them are going to need
[1:39:43] Speaker 4: each other when the competition level get stiffer.
[1:39:46] Speaker 1: You know, in the Eastern Conference again. Can't win it
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: without one another. Yeah. With the same previous driver's seat
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: and situation? Doesn't matter. I mean, it's going to work
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: itself out. It's going to work itself out. Like, they
[1:39:57] Speaker 1: can't do it without one another.
[1:39:59] Speaker 6: You ain't never seen one of them cars with two drivers?
[1:40:01] Speaker 6: The student drivers, yeah. We both driving it.
[1:40:04] Speaker 1: Okay. It's like Shaq and Kobe. You got to figure
[1:40:06] Speaker 1: out which one you want to roll with. No. We
[1:40:10] Speaker 1: don't want that. We don't want that situation. No. And
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: it's not that situation. It's going to hit that situation.
[1:40:16] Speaker 8: Because number two actually became the finals MVP.
[1:40:19] Speaker 1: So the fuck I'm going to sit here and come
[1:40:21] Speaker 1: behind him.
[1:40:21] Speaker 5: You know why we didn't win four and five championships
[1:40:24] Speaker 5: in a row?
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: Because of that. Because of that. That's fine. No, that's
[1:40:27] Speaker 1: not fine. That's what we don't want. We don't want
[1:40:31] Speaker 1: them to come to that room in the middle of
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: a three-peat to then try to change roles and fight
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: over the role because that's why championship four and five
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: didn't happen when we were favorite to win four and five.
[1:40:43] Speaker 8: We're not changing roles. What I'm saying is we just
[1:40:46] Speaker 8: know what it is. We're not beefing over a role.
[1:40:49] Speaker 8: We're not beefing over a role. We're not liking your.
[1:40:52] Speaker 1: Energy, dog. I'm not trying to start anything.
[1:40:54] Speaker 8: What I'm saying is I'm not trying to start anything.
[1:40:57] Speaker 6: Hey, Brandon, just say this. What happened when we got
[1:41:00] Speaker 6: rid of the big fella? We won two more.
[1:41:03] Speaker 1: He wouldn't go out with two. One, two, one. Yeah,
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: they did. Jayden Brown can prove that he can win
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: it on his own. If he need to, he will.
[1:41:11] Speaker 6: If he don't have to, he won't have to.
[1:41:13] Speaker 1: He hasn't proved yet. If it's the Kobe Shaq dynamic,
[1:41:16] Speaker 1: I get it. We supposed to have had one that
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: we were guaranteed to win those two years.
[1:41:22] Speaker 5: We won three in a row. We was guaranteed to
[1:41:24] Speaker 5: win the next one, and there was turmoil.
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: And then we reloaded to win again that night, and
[1:41:30] Speaker 1: we lost again. It was just my show, though. It
[1:41:32] Speaker 1: was just my show now. It was my show now.
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: We just want to drive. Right, right. No, no, I
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: get it. I get it, but somebody got to be
[1:41:39] Speaker 1: number one. Because that would have been right there.
[1:41:40] Speaker 5: That would have been seven championships for Kobe.
[1:41:43] Speaker 1: But somebody got to be number one. Because if we
[1:41:45] Speaker 1: would have won those two in the trade, what would
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: have happened? And then y'all still would have.
[1:41:48] Speaker 8: Been talking about Kobe still number two, didn't win the
[1:41:50] Speaker 8: finals MVP.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: That's why he's not this guy. That's why Tracy's better
[1:41:54] Speaker 1: than him. This is why. It would have been all
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: them conversations. You got to be number one. You got
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: to be number one. You got to be the last
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: guy at the end of it doing that. I don't
[1:42:04] Speaker 1: know what y'all on. I don't know what you on.
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: I don't know what you on. You said number two
[1:42:09] Speaker 1: don't get no respect. The number two don't get no
[1:42:12] Speaker 1: respect on this couch. We said that. So Kobe can
[1:42:14] Speaker 1: get seven, and he'll be right on the sack. For sure.
[1:42:16] Speaker 6: And y'all be right here. You ain't driving the bus.
[1:42:19] Speaker 6: You ain't driving the bus.
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: Why do you want them to the beach? Ain't nobody
[1:42:22] Speaker 1: saying it. It's the fucking facts. Why do you want
[1:42:25] Speaker 1: them to be like we like what the motherfuckers didn't
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: play the games and we watched the games and.
[1:42:29] Speaker 8: We're watching the same thing. No, I'm just saying.
[1:42:32] Speaker 1: Yeah. Number one.
[1:42:33] Speaker 8: So that's coming back.
[1:42:40] Speaker 1: No, of course. No.
[1:42:41] Speaker 5: I'm going to make you hate somebody who was five
[1:42:42] Speaker 5: time first team all NBA.
[1:42:44] Speaker 1: I'm not going to hate nobody. I can say anything
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: about hate. I can say what it was. He said
[1:42:47] Speaker 1: he won a statue in Memphis. First time.
[1:42:50] Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Brown got to get a statue. So, Mr. B,
[1:42:53] Speaker 3: let's move on to that little piece of commentary. Jason
[1:42:57] Speaker 3: Tatum's status for the season remains uncertain, but it's certain
[1:42:59] Speaker 3: that he's compiled an impressive resume during his time in Boston.
[1:43:03] Speaker 3: Six All-Stars, five All-NBAs, including four first-team selections in an
[1:43:06] Speaker 3: NBA championship in 2024. Obviously, he was not the Finals MVP.
[1:43:09] Speaker 3: That was Jalen Brown. But during an interview with The Pivot,
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: Tatum talked about the pressure that comes with playing for
[1:43:14] Speaker 3: a storied franchise like the Boston Celtics.
[1:43:16] Speaker 11: You know, a lot of times, like, former players come back,
[1:43:19] Speaker 11: and whether it be... rondo kg paul or cedric maxwell
[1:43:24] Speaker 11: was like who works for the team where you know
[1:43:26] Speaker 11: they talk about the 86 Celtics like the thing they
[1:43:30] Speaker 11: all have in common is they won they won one
[1:43:33] Speaker 11: or multiple championships so as you know you striving to
[1:43:37] Speaker 11: be a great player it's like you know if i
[1:43:40] Speaker 11: the career i have right now if i had it
[1:43:42] Speaker 11: with The Grizzlies, like, I would have a statue outside
[1:43:47] Speaker 11: the arena.
[1:43:48] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:43:48] Speaker 11: But now I'm chasing people like Larry Bird, where the
[1:43:51] Speaker 11: standard is so much higher. And it's like, you don't
[1:43:54] Speaker 11: want to be the great player of the Celtics that, oh,
[1:43:58] Speaker 11: you're the one guy that didn't win. Like, Bill Russell,
[1:44:00] Speaker 11: John Havlicek, Kevin McHale, like, they all won a championship.
[1:44:09] Speaker 3: Gil, thoughts on Tatum saying he already have a statue
[1:44:12] Speaker 3: if he played with the Grinch. Can I finish the question, Gil?
[1:44:15] Speaker 3: You know I live for these moments. I practice in
[1:44:17] Speaker 3: the mirror every day before I come here. Sometimes during
[1:44:22] Speaker 3: the weekend, just do practice shows.
[1:44:26] Speaker 1: So, facts. I didn't let you do it. No, you
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: already did it. No, just for moving forward. Okay. What
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: he's speaking is it's a fact.
[1:44:34] Speaker 5: Um, If you take his resume at 27 years old,
[1:44:45] Speaker 5: he has more all-stars appearances.
[1:44:47] Speaker 1: Than every Grizzly player that played there.
[1:44:50] Speaker 5: He has more all-NBAs than every Grizzly player that ever
[1:44:55] Speaker 5: played there, right? He has a championship. He has four
[1:44:58] Speaker 5: first-team all-NBAs, right? A gold medal as well. A gold medal.
[1:45:04] Speaker 1: He's an Olympian.
[1:45:05] Speaker 5: So you're saying you take my resume, and if I
[1:45:08] Speaker 5: did that here... I'm the greatest Grizzlies player ever. Yes,
[1:45:13] Speaker 5: that is a fact with his resume, right? That goes
[1:45:16] Speaker 5: for a lot of cities and players if you take
[1:45:19] Speaker 5: the resume. But if you are a Boston Celtic or
[1:45:23] Speaker 5: if you are a Laker, You're not playing against your opponents.
[1:45:27] Speaker 5: You're playing against the Raptors. They're challenging you. When we're
[1:45:33] Speaker 5: challenging you, we're challenging you with Kobe. Who is the
[1:45:36] Speaker 5: best Laker.
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: Of all time? Those are those conversations.
[1:45:41] Speaker 5: Is LeBron Jersey going to get retired up there? Is
[1:45:45] Speaker 5: he going to have a statue in Los Angeles? These
[1:45:48] Speaker 5: are the conversations that are happening in certain cities because
[1:45:53] Speaker 5: of The success of winning. So, yeah, he is under
[1:45:56] Speaker 5: a microscope of just being a Boston Celtic in that jersey.
[1:46:01] Speaker 5: But if you remove him and put him somewhere else,
[1:46:04] Speaker 5: like he mentioned, Memphis, he is the best player that
[1:46:06] Speaker 5: ever walked through Memphis with his resume. At 27 years old. Shit,
[1:46:12] Speaker 5: at 26, he didn't even play this year. So I
[1:46:15] Speaker 5: don't see nothing wrong or anything he said that's not
[1:46:19] Speaker 5: a true statement.
[1:46:24] Speaker 1: I mean, but would you have the career if he
[1:46:26] Speaker 1: was in Memphis? No, he said his resume. No, he
[1:46:28] Speaker 1: would not. No, he would not have. No, he would
[1:46:32] Speaker 1: not have. Would you have that resume?
[1:46:34] Speaker 6: The pressure is not the same in Boston.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: That's why it's like that. Hold on. It's not the question.
[1:46:40] Speaker 1: I'm just asking a question.
[1:46:43] Speaker 6: I'm asking a question.
[1:46:45] Speaker 1: Empty numbers like we always say.
[1:46:46] Speaker 6: Everybody else.
[1:46:47] Speaker 5: You take the honest resume and you put him in
[1:46:51] Speaker 5: Los Angeles.
[1:46:51] Speaker 1: Does he have a statue? No. Okay. No. But you
[1:46:57] Speaker 1: put it in Milwaukee, it's a trophy. It's a statue.
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: It's the biggest shit that they could ever build. So
[1:47:03] Speaker 1: stop pretending that his resume in Memphis, he has more
[1:47:09] Speaker 1: all NBAs than every person who put on a Grizzlies uniform.
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. By 26. Every all-star, he has more.
[1:47:21] Speaker 5: By himself than every player that played in that uniform.
[1:47:26] Speaker 1: We're not denying that, though. We're not denying that. So
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: what he's saying, if he has it, he's saying, my
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: resume I have now, if I played there. I will
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: have a statue.
[1:47:36] Speaker 5: We're not saying, would you have a statue? I mean,
[1:47:38] Speaker 5: would you have this resume if you was there? That's
[1:47:40] Speaker 5: not the, that's not the.
[1:47:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't even, at this age, when you
[1:47:43] Speaker 4: in the prime of your career, why is that even.
[1:47:45] Speaker 1: The topic, like statue?
[1:47:46] Speaker 8: Because we're trying to change the narrative of what it's
[1:47:49] Speaker 8: looking like now. So let me make it look like,
[1:47:51] Speaker 8: if I went to Memphis, shit, we wouldn't be talking
[1:47:53] Speaker 8: about any of this. It's just the pressure of playing
[1:47:56] Speaker 8: in Boston is the pressure of playing in Boston.
[1:47:58] Speaker 1: That's why your career and that's why everything is.
[1:48:00] Speaker 8: What it is because of that up there. You're going
[1:48:02] Speaker 8: to Boston. You're not doing that. Y'all going to do
[1:48:04] Speaker 8: whatever y'all want in Boston. There's no pressure. I mean,
[1:48:06] Speaker 8: there's no pressure in Memphis. All you got to do
[1:48:08] Speaker 8: is go out there and get numbers.
[1:48:09] Speaker 1: Now, a statue. God damn.
[1:48:11] Speaker 6: That means Vince Carter.
[1:48:12] Speaker 1: Should get a statue in Toronto.
[1:48:14] Speaker 6: That means a lot of motherfuckers need to just get
[1:48:16] Speaker 6: a statue.
[1:48:16] Speaker 1: We're just bringing up statues. Like, God. up statues.
[1:48:20] Speaker 5: You're saying if you put Vince Carter's resume in.
[1:48:23] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:48:25] Speaker 8: Vince Carter's resume in Toronto alone, he should have a
[1:48:27] Speaker 8: statue in Toronto.
[1:48:28] Speaker 1: He did bring bottle service.
[1:48:29] Speaker 8: Because first of all, if Vince Carter never does the
[1:48:31] Speaker 8: dunk contest, I don't know shit about Toronto. I've never
[1:48:34] Speaker 8: heard about the Raptors or anything until that. But what
[1:48:36] Speaker 8: he's done, like we just talked about D-Rose the other day,
[1:48:39] Speaker 8: what he meant to the city. Vince Carter is the
[1:48:42] Speaker 8: same thing to me up in Toronto. Without Eric Canada,
[1:48:45] Speaker 8: all that stuff he was doing, man, we would.
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: Not know nothing about Toronto. Let's just stick to the topic.
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: This is the topic. We're talking about everybody wants a statue.
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: Everybody wants to have a statue.
[1:48:53] Speaker 6: Everybody that's top 15 in the NBA with a resume,
[1:48:56] Speaker 6: if they go to Memphis, they should have a statue. Yes.
[1:49:00] Speaker 1: So is that a lie? No, I mean, that's... I
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: don't like... Okay, that's all he said. What's the point
[1:49:07] Speaker 1: of it?
[1:49:08] Speaker 6: What's the point of you saying that when there's 14 other.
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: Guys that can say the same thing about their careers?
[1:49:15] Speaker 1: They can literally say, man, if I went to Memphis.
[1:49:18] Speaker 6: Too, I would have a statue. Joel Embiid, I would
[1:49:20] Speaker 6: have a statue. Joker, I would have a statue. What's
[1:49:23] Speaker 6: the point of saying it? Because the talking of who's
[1:49:26] Speaker 6: number one over there. So let me go over here
[1:49:28] Speaker 6: and make it.
[1:49:29] Speaker 1: But playing for a franchise like the Celtics, like the Lakers, right?
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: It is more pressure playing in Boston. That's a fact.
[1:49:34] Speaker 1: We can't say that's a fact.
[1:49:35] Speaker 5: For me, having five first teams in Boston is big.
[1:49:38] Speaker 1: It is. I'm asking why. It's not big.
[1:49:41] Speaker 6: It's not having five in Memphis.
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: It's not big.
[1:49:46] Speaker 8: Having five in Boston is big because of the pressure,
[1:49:49] Speaker 8: like you said. But having that in Memphis is not.
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: He has that. Nobody's going to even know that he
[1:49:53] Speaker 1: did that in Memphis. Bro, what he's saying is.
[1:49:56] Speaker 5: Okay, him and Jalen Brown are thinking the same. They're
[1:50:00] Speaker 5: saying this. Our resume is not valued like everybody else's.
[1:50:08] Speaker 5: Our resume, because of... The 100 people that's in these Raptors,
[1:50:14] Speaker 5: you don't give us our flowers like everybody else.
[1:50:19] Speaker 1: Right? So when you think about.
[1:50:21] Speaker 5: Jalen Brown now, I'm averaging 29 this and this. But
[1:50:25] Speaker 5: because I play for Boston, you don't give me that.
[1:50:28] Speaker 5: Because you think of all Boston players.
[1:50:31] Speaker 1: If I played in Memphis with my 29, 6, and 5,
[1:50:34] Speaker 1: I'll be an MVP candidate. That's how Jalen in the West.
[1:50:38] Speaker 1: In the West? That's how they're thinking over there.
[1:50:40] Speaker 8: I get how they're thinking. In the West, with the Clippers,
[1:50:43] Speaker 8: Golden State, and Houston. You think they're winning a championship
[1:50:46] Speaker 8: with them?
[1:50:47] Speaker 1: Because that's what he said. If you take my resume
[1:50:49] Speaker 1: and my team to Memphis. No, he's not saying that. Oh,
[1:50:52] Speaker 1: my God. We're talking about flowers, right?
[1:50:55] Speaker 6: He's talking about flowers. He wants roses. We're giving him sunflowers.
[1:51:01] Speaker 6: That's the difference. I just want to know why did
[1:51:06] Speaker 6: he make him say that because I've.
[1:51:08] Speaker 4: Never heard players this young talk about statues right now.
[1:51:12] Speaker 1: That's part of his resume.
[1:51:14] Speaker 5: He's talking about the conversation is about all the success
[1:51:20] Speaker 5: you guys are having. You're having You don't get the
[1:51:24] Speaker 5: recognition that you deserve.
[1:51:26] Speaker 1: So the conversation... He got the award. Talk to him.
[1:51:29] Speaker 1: He's getting the award. Relax, bro. He's getting the award.
[1:51:32] Speaker 1: What kind of recognition? How much recognition do you fucking need?
[1:51:35] Speaker 1: Can I finish my conversation? What the fuck, bro?
[1:51:36] Speaker 5: Whatever your hate is for him, then do that action.
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:51:39] Speaker 5: The conversation is this. So he's saying, we, USA, we
[1:51:43] Speaker 5: go to USA basketball. So this is part of the conversation.
[1:51:46] Speaker 5: We go to USA basketball. USA basketball.
[1:51:49] Speaker 1: For sure.
[1:51:51] Speaker 5: I am first team all NBA, meaning there's four foreigners
[1:51:57] Speaker 5: and then me as the only American on the first team.
[1:52:02] Speaker 5: When we go to USA basketball, I know one person
[1:52:06] Speaker 5: that should be starting, the.
[1:52:07] Speaker 1: Number one three man in the NBA. So when I
[1:52:11] Speaker 1: go there to represent, I get benched. That's the conversation.
[1:52:17] Speaker 5: He's saying that everything he's doing, where's the love? He said,
[1:52:21] Speaker 5: because I'm judged by them up there, not my peers.
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: Same thing Jalen Brown is thinking.
[1:52:27] Speaker 1: Hey, where's my MVP talk?
[1:52:31] Speaker 5: How is people in small cities getting better MVP talk?
[1:52:35] Speaker 1: I'm averaging the same numbers. My team is this. Where's
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: my MVP talk? But if I'm in a small city.
[1:52:41] Speaker 5: I'm going to get that MVP talk because they don't have.
[1:52:43] Speaker 1: No history there.
[1:52:45] Speaker 5: So it's louder there when I'm being judged here. I'm
[1:52:49] Speaker 5: being judged by.
[1:52:51] Speaker 1: This, not my number. So that was the conversation I
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: was talking about.
[1:52:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get that, and all that's true, but
[1:52:56] Speaker 4: the statue talk, though, it seemed like he was reaching
[1:52:58] Speaker 4: for something. Because when have you heard of a guy
[1:53:01] Speaker 4: in the prime of his career be worrying about, if
[1:53:03] Speaker 4: I'm somewhere else, I'm going to get a.
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: Statue right now? I mean, what is that? It was
[1:53:08] Speaker 1: talking about. Did we hear the conversation? Did we hear
[1:53:10] Speaker 1: the questions? Yeah, I did. I wasn't hurt. I just didn't.
[1:53:14] Speaker 1: It was just a conversation. It's like being a pretty girl.
[1:53:17] Speaker 5: It's a pretty girl in Los Angeles.
[1:53:21] Speaker 1: There's a thousand of them. There's a thousand of them.
[1:53:24] Speaker 1: There's a thousand of them. What if I was a
[1:53:26] Speaker 1: pretty girl in Ohio? I'm going to stick out. That's
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: what he's saying.
[1:53:31] Speaker 5: You can't tell how beautiful I am because I'm sitting
[1:53:34] Speaker 5: in Los Angeles, New York.
[1:53:36] Speaker 6: We don't care. That's How beautiful you is. You're going
[1:53:41] Speaker 6: to do the same job as the ugly bitch.
[1:53:44] Speaker 1: You're going to do the same fucking job. Get the
[1:53:46] Speaker 1: fuck out. As soon as you're done, get the fuck out.
[1:53:49] Speaker 1: That's all that matters. It don't matter if you're bad
[1:53:52] Speaker 1: or not. It's just ass for business, goddamn. That's what
[1:53:56] Speaker 1: I'm saying. Jalen Brown is doing the same thing. Jalen
[1:54:00] Speaker 1: Brown is having a bad time. The funny part is,
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: everybody's trying to break these two up. They're both mentally
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: thinking the same. We're putting the work in. I'm not
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: going to break them up. We're putting the work in,
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: and these motherfuckers are trying to break us up. We're
[1:54:14] Speaker 1: putting the work in, and no one is giving us
[1:54:16] Speaker 1: our flowers. And that's why I said, out of everything
[1:54:19] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown has done this year to prove everybody's wrong,
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: the only real media giving him is the hair marks.
[1:54:27] Speaker 1: Not the 50s and the 50s. Not that. That's crazy.
[1:54:32] Speaker 1: Stop it. What kind of flowers? What are you talking about?
[1:54:35] Speaker 1: He's talking mad shit. Let me ask you a question.
[1:54:36] Speaker 1: He's doing his thing. Since I.
[1:54:38] Speaker 5: So do you think the 29, his performance, you think
[1:54:42] Speaker 5: he's getting the right amount of love?
[1:54:45] Speaker 1: I don't think so.
[1:54:46] Speaker 6: Do you think it's... Brandon, when we was giving him love,
[1:54:50] Speaker 6: it wasn't enough. When we was giving the underdog love.
[1:54:53] Speaker 1: It wasn't enough. They should be keeping on. The square media.
[1:54:57] Speaker 4: The same way they talk about Joker and SGA and
[1:55:00] Speaker 4: Ant and Wimby.
[1:55:00] Speaker 1: They should be talking to him like that.
[1:55:02] Speaker 8: No, he's only pushing himself.
[1:55:03] Speaker 1: He's on Twitch telling the world I'm the top player.
[1:55:05] Speaker 1: He has to do it. That's awesome. He's not getting
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: it from that's because we went against the machine though. Yep. Okay.
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: That's why he went against the machine. Don't your play
[1:55:17] Speaker 1: speak for itself? No, no, for sure. But if you
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: do go against the machine, like you said, you are
[1:55:21] Speaker 1: going to get penalized. We saw it with Kyrie. We
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: saw it with a lot of people. You playing and
[1:55:25] Speaker 1: you hooping. Same with USAB. Did J.D. Brown deserve the MVP?
[1:55:31] Speaker 1: The finals MVP? Yeah, I do. I think so. Yeah.
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: Did his play show that? I mean, he played both sides. Yeah.
[1:55:39] Speaker 6: Place for him right now. He's an MVP candidate this year?
[1:55:43] Speaker 1: I think he's top five. No, he's in six. Six? Okay.
[1:55:46] Speaker 1: Six is not in the conversation. Six is not in
[1:55:49] Speaker 1: the conversation. Okay, so he's not in the conversation. Not
[1:55:51] Speaker 1: in the conversation. Should he be in the conversation? Should he? Yes. Okay, yes.
[1:55:55] Speaker 1: Should he? Yes. Number six right now is not being
[1:55:58] Speaker 1: in the conversation. I'll read you the list. You tell
[1:55:59] Speaker 1: me who you bump out.
[1:56:02] Speaker 3: SGA, Joker, Luka, Wimby, Tyrese Maxx are top five in
[1:56:06] Speaker 3: the latest MVP ladder.
[1:56:07] Speaker 1: What is Wimby and Max? Is that who? Wimby and Max. Yeah, yeah.
[1:56:12] Speaker 1: Wimby and Max. Why isn't Cade Cunningham number three? Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Wait, wait.
[1:56:16] Speaker 1: Cade not in it? Cade not in it? Why he
[1:56:18] Speaker 1: is not number three? I have no idea. I have
[1:56:21] Speaker 1: no idea why he's not top three. SGA Jokic. That's.
[1:56:26] Speaker 1: Given Luca give you been wimpy. No Tyrese maxi.
[1:56:31] Speaker 3: No, no, then six to ten is Jalen Brown Kay Cunningham.
[1:56:34] Speaker 1: Yeah funny It.
[1:56:36] Speaker 5: Should be Cade and Jalen in the top five.
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. That's for sure Like when be like, yeah, listen,
[1:56:42] Speaker 1: we listen we see what when be it. We're gonna
[1:56:44] Speaker 1: be great get it, but not right now, you know
[1:56:46] Speaker 1: top five All right.
[1:56:48] Speaker 6: Conversation right now top five not right now When he's
[1:56:51] Speaker 6: not talking about 11.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no But it's not loud enough. Another all-star,
[1:56:56] Speaker 1: all-NBA player. Not loud enough. The other two don't have
[1:57:01] Speaker 1: none of that. That has nothing to do with me playing, bro. No.
[1:57:04] Speaker 6: I know what they're fucking up inside me. Yeah, but
[1:57:06] Speaker 6: they're not playing. He's not an MVP conversation. Yeah, he's
[1:57:08] Speaker 6: not playing better. One minute's restriction. He's not playing better
[1:57:12] Speaker 6: than Caden Brown.
[1:57:13] Speaker 1: He's not playing better than either one of them guys.
[1:57:16] Speaker 1: I disagree. Not from start to finish. Wait, you disagree?
[1:57:19] Speaker 1: You're playing better than Jalen Brown? Wendy?
[1:57:22] Speaker 6: Yes.
[1:57:22] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. He's playing better than Cade Cunningham? On minutes restriction?
[1:57:26] Speaker 6: Yes.
[1:57:26] Speaker 1: I didn't ask.
[1:57:27] Speaker 6: You whether it was a minute restriction or not.
[1:57:29] Speaker 1: Yes. I said yes. I said yes. I said yes. Yes.
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: We've been playing better. Jalen Brown. Yes. No way. And
[1:57:37] Speaker 1: Cade Cunningham. Yes, we don't wait to disagree. No way. Okay.
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see him. I didn't see him
[1:57:47] Speaker 1: pop another pill, but I could see earlier in the year,
[1:57:50] Speaker 1: but not.
[1:57:50] Speaker 6: Now like number.
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: I don't say why is who Joker still in the
[1:58:03] Speaker 1: Because he's having the triple-double. He's hurt. He's having the triple-double.
[1:58:07] Speaker 8: The last time we saw him, that motherfucker said, said
[1:58:10] Speaker 8: it again.
[1:58:11] Speaker 1: He's averaging a triple-double.
[1:58:12] Speaker 6: It has when is the last time he played he
[1:58:14] Speaker 6: still have last time he played.
[1:58:15] Speaker 1: He had a triple-double.
[1:58:16] Speaker 6: Yeah today still we're carrying that on right?
[1:58:19] Speaker 1: That's still that's that's that's what we know, right? Yeah,
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: that's what the men's restriction don't count though. What are
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: you talking about? So when we've been on minute restriction,
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: Don't count. Neither does Joker being his numbers are still
[1:58:31] Speaker 1: what they are. His women's numbers not better than his?
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: on minutes restrictions. It's still not better than here. I
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: don't give a fuck if you play 48 minutes. Play
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: 12 minutes. I don't give a fuck. Don't give a fuck.
[1:58:43] Speaker 1: The man still has to triple dope. Does his team
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: success matter? He's not playing better than Kane.
[1:58:48] Speaker 6: I'm asking.
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: I'm not contradicting. It doesn't matter. Does team success matter? Yes,
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: but it's going to contradict what you're trying to say.
[1:58:58] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make a point.
[1:58:59] Speaker 6: I just asked the question. I hear what you're saying,
[1:59:02] Speaker 6: but I'm not trying to say anything. I just asked
[1:59:03] Speaker 6: the question.
[1:59:04] Speaker 5: If you're talking about minute restrictions, and then you say
[1:59:09] Speaker 5: they're a record, if he's on minute restriction and their
[1:59:12] Speaker 5: record's good, that means.
[1:59:13] Speaker 1: They're a good team. Without him. Without him. And where
[1:59:16] Speaker 1: would they be if he wasn't on minute restriction? We
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: don't know. We do know. We know. We do know.
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: They'll be number one. Okay. We do know. We do.
[1:59:24] Speaker 1: They're number two. We don't. They're number two.
[1:59:27] Speaker 6: We're number two in the West.
[1:59:30] Speaker 1: They're five games back.
[1:59:32] Speaker 6: They're number two in the West.
[1:59:33] Speaker 1: On minutes restrictions. 24 and 12.
[1:59:36] Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
[1:59:38] Speaker 1: Still wouldn't be number one. Y'all think it's funny. Y'all
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: think it's funny. They're 22 and 11 with them. Without Wimby,
[1:59:44] Speaker 1: they are 10 and 4. You're funny.
[1:59:45] Speaker 6: 10 and 4 without him.
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: You're funny. So they might actually be 10 and 4
[1:59:57] Speaker 1: without him. Detroit's a lottery team without Cade. Detroit's a
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: lottery team without Cade. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, hell yeah.
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: So he needs to be in the MVP. And I
[2:00:04] Speaker 1: don't know what Boston looks like. We take Cade out.
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: Detroit is playing for the lottery. We know what that
[2:00:10] Speaker 1: looks like. They might get the number one pick. We
[2:00:11] Speaker 1: know what that looks like. Same thing with Brown. You
[2:00:14] Speaker 1: take Brown out right now. If Jalen don't play, what's
[2:00:16] Speaker 1: McCall I heard? Boston for the lottery too. This is
[2:00:18] Speaker 1: 5 and 1 without Cade Cunningham this year. Okay. Come again?
[2:00:22] Speaker 1: Pistons are 5-1 without Cade Cunningham. Say that again? Pistons
[2:00:26] Speaker 1: are 5-1 without Cade Cunningham. Five like five like five
[2:00:31] Speaker 1: wins everyone five games and lost one time You don't
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: have to wait for that seat.
[2:00:37] Speaker 6: I gotta hear I gotta hear it out loud. Yeah,
[2:00:40] Speaker 6: so he can deflate his chest I'm trying out to
[2:00:42] Speaker 6: get the dog reverse.
[2:00:44] Speaker 1: Oh, I've been one without you How many ten and
[2:00:48] Speaker 1: four in the show they beat the Bulls the Sixers
[2:00:52] Speaker 1: the Pacers are the Bulls put this boat they be
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: who I The Bulls. They beat the Bulls twice. Sixers, Pacers, Clippers,
[2:01:01] Speaker 1: and Pelicans. Come on, man. Come on. Hold on. I'm
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: not going to lie. If it wasn't hurt, they picked
[2:01:13] Speaker 1: those games for Kade to sit out. Come on now.
[2:01:15] Speaker 1: Have some context. Make it make sense.
[2:01:17] Speaker 6: For your argument, Dan. Y'all make it make sense for
[2:01:19] Speaker 6: your argument. The argument is that Wimby is not an
[2:01:21] Speaker 6: MVP company.
[2:01:22] Speaker 1: But he is. But he is! But he is! But
[2:01:31] Speaker 1: he is!
[2:01:31] Speaker 6: But he is! But technically, what do you mean? He is,
[2:01:36] Speaker 6: but he's not playing.
[2:01:38] Speaker 1: But technically. If the shit come out again, the ladders,
[2:01:41] Speaker 1: I bet it's shit. It'll come out again tomorrow, updates
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: every week. But technically. I can guarantee you this. If
[2:01:49] Speaker 1: you let the public vote. If you let the public vote.
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: Should Cade be in the top five? We're going to
[2:02:00] Speaker 1: say yes. The public's going to say yes because we
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: can see what he has done.
[2:02:05] Speaker 5: So the fact that he is seven is real disrespectful
[2:02:08] Speaker 5: to everything he's done done.
[2:02:11] Speaker 1: With a team that we all did not have number one.
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: No other team. No other team.
[2:02:16] Speaker 4: Nobody had Liam score in the top and not be
[2:02:19] Speaker 4: top five MVP.
[2:02:19] Speaker 1: When did that ever happen? Nobody would have picked the
[2:02:21] Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons to be number one to come. Fuck no.
[2:02:23] Speaker 1: At fucking January 30th. Nobody would have picked them number
[2:02:27] Speaker 1: one after the first game. This is like his D-Rosier. Yes,
[2:02:30] Speaker 1: that's exactly what this is like. You know what I'm saying?
[2:02:32] Speaker 1: But nobody's like. Yeah, you're right. This is that. This
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: is exactly that. I don't understand that. I don't understand it.
[2:02:42] Speaker 1: Even what Maxie's doing, we get. There's no disrespect to Maxie.
[2:02:45] Speaker 1: There's no disrespect to Maxie. They're winning. They're in the
[2:02:49] Speaker 1: same conference. They're in the East with you.
[2:02:54] Speaker 5: And you got other Hall of Famers on your team
[2:02:58] Speaker 5: that just being there changes the game for you. There's
[2:03:02] Speaker 5: nobody here with him that's going to be that type
[2:03:05] Speaker 5: of caliber of talent.
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: And you're number one. That's the difference.
[2:03:10] Speaker 5: We just talked about NBA five games. That's part of
[2:03:12] Speaker 5: helping them get here. He don't have that.
[2:03:15] Speaker 1: Coming off the bench or nothing.
[2:03:16] Speaker 6: When y'all was number one, was Jake hit top.
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: Five in MVP voting? Yeah. He should have won it.
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: Kay Cunningham's numbers are 25, nine assists, five boards. That's
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: how I look at it. What? 25 points, 10 assists,
[2:03:28] Speaker 1: five boards. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. On a number one team.
[2:03:37] Speaker 1: On 45%. On a number one team. On a number
[2:03:39] Speaker 1: one team. With no number two player.
[2:03:42] Speaker 6: So, Wimby's numbers are 25, 11, forces shooting 50%.
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: And who's the number one option? They're number two in
[2:03:50] Speaker 1: the West. Number two versus number one. so what are.
[2:03:54] Speaker 6: You saying with lower expectations so what are you Wimby's
[2:03:57] Speaker 6: not moving.
[2:03:58] Speaker 1: So is one better than two how about.
[2:04:00] Speaker 6: Maxie is that a team record you're talking about is
[2:04:03] Speaker 6: that team record you're talking about you brought it up
[2:04:05] Speaker 6: you said a two did I say did team record
[2:04:07] Speaker 6: count so does team record count I don't you said
[2:04:10] Speaker 6: did you say no or yes I don't think so
[2:04:12] Speaker 6: you don't think so so why would you bring it
[2:04:13] Speaker 6: up you brought it up You just said, you just
[2:04:16] Speaker 6: said 12 wins. So I'm going off what you said. No,
[2:04:18] Speaker 6: I just brought up the stats. You said 12. You
[2:04:21] Speaker 6: said they're second in the way.
[2:04:23] Speaker 1: With the stats. Similar stats. Similar stats, right? I don't
[2:04:26] Speaker 1: like K-9.
[2:04:27] Speaker 6: But he don't have better stats than Wimby. He don't
[2:04:30] Speaker 6: have better stats than Wimby.
[2:04:32] Speaker 1: They're number one in the East. You know not to
[2:04:33] Speaker 1: just go by stats. They're number one in the East.
[2:04:35] Speaker 1: You know context. What would you like to go by? Both.
[2:04:38] Speaker 1: You want to go by both sides of the floor? No,
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: go by what's the expectation of Detroit?
[2:04:42] Speaker 6: Do you want to go by both sides of the board?
[2:04:45] Speaker 1: I want to go by what is Detroit? Where did
[2:04:46] Speaker 1: you have Detroit coming to this year?
[2:04:48] Speaker 6: We're talking about team success right now. No, we're talking
[2:04:51] Speaker 6: about the players who are MVPs? Are we talking about
[2:04:53] Speaker 6: the teams that are wanting to.
[2:04:54] Speaker 1: We're talking about where... Okay, hold on. So, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Cool. So,
[2:04:58] Speaker 1: did you think... So, we're not talking... You don't want
[2:05:01] Speaker 1: to answer the question? Coming into the season, would you
[2:05:03] Speaker 1: have predicted that Kane would have this kind of a season?
[2:05:05] Speaker 1: Nobody did. No. Coming into the season, would you have
[2:05:08] Speaker 1: predicted that Wim would have this kind of a season? Yes.
[2:05:11] Speaker 1: Thank you. Everybody knows. Coming to the season. Way to agree.
[2:05:14] Speaker 1: Coming to the season. I was the only one that
[2:05:18] Speaker 1: said it wouldn't be worth it. Let me ask you this.
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: So cool. So that question is yes.
[2:05:22] Speaker 6: Who is your team? Who is your team this year?
[2:05:24] Speaker 6: So you're in agreement. You're in agreement. Who is your
[2:05:27] Speaker 6: team this year, Rashad? Let me ask you.
[2:05:31] Speaker 1: Who is your team this year, Rashad? You know who
[2:05:33] Speaker 1: my team is. Who is that? Spurs? You know who
[2:05:35] Speaker 1: my team is. So basically, we know one thing.
[2:05:41] Speaker 5: He's going to pick who he think is the number
[2:05:43] Speaker 5: one team. So pick Boston one championship. Then he picked
[2:05:47] Speaker 5: Knicks last year, right? Then he picked preseason who?
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: Spurs. So what the Spurs is doing, he already knew.
[2:05:56] Speaker 1: Where did he have Detroit? Bottom feeder. Bottom feeding team.
[2:06:00] Speaker 1: I did not. They're number one. I did not. And
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: you're not going to give it up to the guy
[2:06:03] Speaker 1: who hasn't yet? I did not have Detroit bottom feeding team.
[2:06:06] Speaker 1: Did you have them first? No, I didn't pick them.
[2:06:09] Speaker 6: You didn't pick them at all? Because they were number
[2:06:12] Speaker 6: two last year. Number two and number three last year?
[2:06:15] Speaker 6: They were up and coming, number two, number three? I
[2:06:18] Speaker 6: think they were six. They were six. They played three.
[2:06:24] Speaker 1: No, they played, no, they were six and they played three. Regardless,
[2:06:27] Speaker 1: Davey had them. Davey had them going. From where they
[2:06:30] Speaker 1: were in the previous season, they changed up to six.
[2:06:33] Speaker 1: I didn't have them.
[2:06:35] Speaker 4: So when Derrick Rose won MVP the year he won MVP,
[2:06:37] Speaker 4: did you think he should have won MVP?
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, no, no. He was a LeBron fan then.
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: I was thinking about some other shit then. I was overseas.
[2:06:43] Speaker 6: No, no.
[2:06:44] Speaker 1: He was a LeBron fan then. I wasn't thinking about
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: Derrick Rose back then.
[2:06:46] Speaker 4: Because the logic you're using now, it won't match up
[2:06:48] Speaker 4: if that's the case.
[2:06:49] Speaker 6: Yeah, because I see you had to search into your
[2:06:51] Speaker 6: little prolodex. You had to go back to Derrick Rose.
[2:06:53] Speaker 6: I don't know why, but I don't know what that means.
[2:06:56] Speaker 6: He was a LeBron James fan then, so he was
[2:06:59] Speaker 6: Team LeBron. So it was LeBron's jam. He didn't give
[2:07:03] Speaker 6: a shit.
[2:07:03] Speaker 1: He was mad. I mean, I believe LeBron should have
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: won it that year too, but... Way to go back
[2:07:07] Speaker 1: in time, though. I'm just saying, though. Way to move
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: your shit. Way to move your shit. Hey, Norris, you
[2:07:15] Speaker 1: got to come stronger than this, man. You got to
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: come stronger than this.
[2:07:18] Speaker 6: You know you're going against somebody different, man. You got
[2:07:21] Speaker 6: to come stronger than that. Bro, what the fuck they
[2:07:23] Speaker 6: got to do? Good place for us to wrap up
[2:07:25] Speaker 6: the show today.
[2:07:26] Speaker 1: Because they was number one in the East. Because they
[2:07:29] Speaker 1: was number one in the East. And K is number
[2:07:31] Speaker 1: one in the East.
[2:07:31] Speaker 6: Winby is Winby. Winby ain't moving. Okay, we keep Winby.
[2:07:35] Speaker 6: How about Max? Max is staying there too. Everybody stay
[2:07:38] Speaker 6: where the fuck they at.
[2:07:39] Speaker 1: Nope. No way. That's why it's called the MVP race.
[2:07:42] Speaker 1: That's why they got everybody in there. So that's why
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: Joker's still in it? Yep, I guess so. All right, cool.
[2:07:47] Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody on this couch. Another successful week of spirited debate, discourse,
[2:07:53] Speaker 3: all things basketball, pop culture.
[2:07:55] Speaker 1: Give me that text message, man. I want that dope dealer, man.
[2:07:57] Speaker 1: I told you what the dope dealer was. I just
[2:08:01] Speaker 1: want to be on some shit these days. I told
[2:08:02] Speaker 1: you what it was. Monday, I'm going to come in
[2:08:04] Speaker 1: here Tuesday, and I'm just going to act a fool.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: The two-piece. That ain't going to get you no wins.
[2:08:10] Speaker 1: You're still going to be 78%. I don't need no wins.
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: I just got to go to the chat.
[2:08:15] Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat.
[2:08:18] Speaker 3: Appreciate our entire crew. This has been another episode of
[2:08:21] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:08:23] Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.

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