# Why The Knicks CAN'T Repeat, Wemby's REVENGE Tour & ANT Teaming Up With LaMelo Looks SCARY! Part 1

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 17 Sep 2026, 1 h 01 min.

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Gilbert Arenas, Evan Turner, DeMarcus Cousins, Nick Young, Brendan Haywood, and Josiah Johnson bring you the best NBA show on the planet! This episode the couch discusses if the Knicks made the right move by running it back, Jalen Brunson's legacy post ring, What it will take for Jalen Brunson to be a mega star + more! Presented by Polymarket - the world's largest prediction market. Use code ARENA when you sign up for a $50 bonus with a qualifying deposit of $10. https://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/ARENA 18+ Only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Trading is risky. 100% loss can occur. See http://polymarket.com/tos for more information. The Polymarket US App serves as an independent software provider and affiliate of Polymarket US and Polymarket Clearing, the CFTC-regulated exchange and clearing organization. Follow Gil's Arena on socials: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gilsarena0/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GilsArena0 Threads - https://www.threads.com/@gilsarena0 Twitter/X - https://x.com/GilsArenaShow Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/gilsarenashow TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gilsarena TimeStamps: 0:00 - INTRO 7:00 - KNICKS LOOKING TO REPEAT 12:00- POWER OF THE MEDIA 15:00- THE REAL UPGRADES 20:00- ELITE DEFENDERS? 23:00- MIA CAN'T CLOSE 27:00 - EARLY SEASON LEADS 28:00- CHARLOTTE EXPECTATIONS 33:00- SCHEDULE PROBLEMS 36:00- LEBRON’S EARLY SEASON PROBLEMS 37:00- BEST STARTING 5 43:00 - BRUNSON BEST PG IN THE LEAGUE 48:00- YOU GOT WHAT ON YO FACE? 51:00- THE CHAMPIONSHIP DIFFERENCE 54:00- BRUNSON IS MISSING AURA (Timestamps may vary based on ads) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:13] Speaker 1: We thought about it. We had deep distortion and discussion.
[0:16] Speaker 1: We couldn't land on anything else. We wanted to keep continuity.
[0:23] Speaker 1: Season 5. This is Gil's Arena. I'm your host, Josiah Johnson.
[0:26] Speaker 1: Here with NBA and 2K legend Gilbert Arenas.
[0:30] Speaker 2: Illuminator.
[0:32] Speaker 3: It ain't really like a legend. They calling me Boo
[0:37] Speaker 3: Boo Gil in the streets right now.
[0:40] Speaker 1: Next to Gil, and back on the couch, we got
[0:43] Speaker 1: NBA champion of the world, swaggy Pete Nick Young.
[0:46] Speaker 2: Damn.
[0:48] Speaker 3: Play my theme music. I need to change that.
[0:52] Speaker 4: What?
[0:53] Speaker 3: Nick does Dallas for the Rams.
[0:56] Speaker 4: In them streets, he is.
[0:57] Speaker 2: He does Dallas. Yeah, Nick does Dallas. Aaron Donald, Miles
[1:02] Speaker 2: Garrett got restraining orders on you. Yeah, they're afraid of you.
[1:05] Speaker 1: We're also joined by NBA champion of the world and
[1:09] Speaker 1: creator of the Tallest Tails Network on YouTube.
[1:12] Speaker 2: Give it up for Brendan Haywood.
[1:14] Speaker 5: The Wood is here.
[1:17] Speaker 3: The Wood is here. Let's go, baby.
[1:22] Speaker 1: And on this side of the couch, former college player
[1:24] Speaker 1: of the year, number two overall pick, played 10 seasons
[1:26] Speaker 1: in the league.
[1:27] Speaker 2: We got Evan Turner back here with us. Sexy shirt.
[1:32] Speaker 2: You got a sexy shirt.
[1:34] Speaker 5: C through F.
[1:35] Speaker 2: Sexy shirt, baby. Sexy love.
[1:37] Speaker 4: Y'all let him breathe.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Let him breathe.
[1:39] Speaker 4: Y'all let him breathe.
[1:41] Speaker 1: Last but not least, we got four-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA selection,
[1:44] Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins.
[1:46] Speaker 4: Back here with.
[1:51] Speaker 2: Us. DeMarcus Boogie, what do you prefer?
[1:54] Speaker 4: Man, I'm a man of many names, bro.
[1:55] Speaker 2: All right.
[1:57] Speaker 1: I don't know if I had to work my way
[1:58] Speaker 1: up to call you Boogie, but I'll earn your trust.
[2:02] Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking
[2:05] Speaker 1: in the arena today. The Knicks are running it back
[2:09] Speaker 1: this season after snapping their 53-year championship drought. Is it
[2:14] Speaker 1: enough to get them back to the finals, though? Didn't
[2:16] Speaker 1: make a lot of roster moves. Lost Mitchell Robinson. Got
[2:18] Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, though. Trying to go back-to-back. No team has
[2:21] Speaker 1: done it in the last eight seasons. Spurs are looking
[2:24] Speaker 1: to bounce back from their disappointing finals run. Does the
[2:27] Speaker 1: league run through Wimby in San Antonio this season? Some
[2:30] Speaker 1: big expectations for Wimby. Didn't take that full max. Gave
[2:35] Speaker 1: some bread back to make the team a little bit stronger.
[2:37] Speaker 1: We'll see if it pays off. And Minnesota made moves
[2:40] Speaker 1: with a blockbuster trade to land LaMelo Ball while also
[2:43] Speaker 1: grabbing Jonathan Kaminga. Are the Wolves a legit threat in
[2:47] Speaker 1: the West this season? We will discuss. But before we
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[4:43] Speaker 1: Well, now we can get into the actual show. We
[4:44] Speaker 1: got to do the preamble, Gil. Pay the bills. Keep
[4:47] Speaker 1: the lights on. Hey, D, you better be careful.
[4:48] Speaker 3: I know.
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[4:59] Speaker 4: I know.
[5:00] Speaker 3: All right.
[5:01] Speaker 2: Well, let's get into it. We're going to start in
[5:02] Speaker 2: the East.
[5:02] Speaker 1: After finishing third in the Eastern Conference last season, the
[5:05] Speaker 1: Knicks put together a historic playoff run capped off with
[5:08] Speaker 1: a gentleman's sweep of the Spurs' despite being down double
[5:11] Speaker 1: digits every single finals game, including their 29-point comeback in
[5:15] Speaker 1: Game 4 with O.J. Ananobi's tip-in seen around the basketball world.
[5:18] Speaker 1: So for the first time in 53 years, the Knicks
[5:20] Speaker 1: aren't entering a season-chasing history. They are defending it, and
[5:24] Speaker 1: they're running it back with their entire starting lineup and
[5:26] Speaker 1: bulk of their core from last season. They lost Mitchell
[5:29] Speaker 1: Robinson to the Celts in the offseason but replaced him
[5:31] Speaker 1: with Andre Drummond. There have been eight different champions in
[5:35] Speaker 1: the last eight seasons with no team that won a
[5:37] Speaker 1: chip in the previous season even returning to the finals
[5:40] Speaker 1: the following season.
[5:41] Speaker 2: So, Boogie, we're going to start with you.
[5:44] Speaker 1: Did the Knicks make the right move retaining their starting
[5:46] Speaker 1: five and core from the championship squad?
[5:48] Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[5:52] Speaker 4: They proved that they're the best team in the league.
[5:54] Speaker 4: They had a historic run. Why wouldn't you run it back?
[5:58] Speaker 4: I don't think adjustments are really necessary until they show
[6:02] Speaker 4: that they are needed. So, if I'm the Knicks, I'm
[6:04] Speaker 4: sticking with the same group. going into the year confident
[6:07] Speaker 4: in the East. They're probably the only team in the
[6:09] Speaker 4: East that didn't have some type of a big move
[6:12] Speaker 4: in the offseason, maybe outside of Atlanta, I believe. I
[6:15] Speaker 4: think they made a move as well. But they had
[6:18] Speaker 4: the team chemistry. They had the experience. They got the camaraderie.
[6:22] Speaker 4: For them, it's starting off where they left off. For
[6:25] Speaker 4: everybody else, it's figuring each other out. So I like
[6:28] Speaker 4: the position that the Knicks are in. And I had
[6:30] Speaker 4: to learn the hard way because I was one of the–
[6:32] Speaker 4: The biggest people that were against the movement in New
[6:35] Speaker 4: York last year, I didn't believe. But as of right now,
[6:38] Speaker 4: where they stand in the East, I think they're the
[6:40] Speaker 4: clear cut as far as where they stand right now. Now,
[6:44] Speaker 4: later on in the year, things can change. Teams can
[6:46] Speaker 4: get better. You know what I'm saying? But as of
[6:49] Speaker 4: right now, I think the Knicks are the favorite to
[6:51] Speaker 4: come out of the East.
[6:52] Speaker 2: However, let's switch over to you. Like I said, kept
[6:55] Speaker 2: that starting five.
[6:56] Speaker 1: Obviously, rode that to a historic championship run, 13-game winning streak.
[6:59] Speaker 1: I think won each closeout game by an average of
[7:01] Speaker 1: 30 points, highest overall. win differential in playoff history, but
[7:04] Speaker 1: did the Knicks make the right move retaining this core
[7:07] Speaker 1: roster this season?
[7:08] Speaker 4: No, I definitely think they did. One thing I wish
[7:10] Speaker 4: they would have did was keep Mitchell Robinson. I think,
[7:13] Speaker 4: you know, just in the playoffs last year, how he
[7:15] Speaker 4: showed up and, you know, showed out and, you know,
[7:18] Speaker 4: imposed his physicality, you know, and defended the paint a
[7:21] Speaker 4: little bit, kind of set the mindset and tempo for
[7:24] Speaker 4: them to be champions. I think when it comes down
[7:26] Speaker 4: to it, you allow Jalen Brinson to be great, you
[7:29] Speaker 4: allow Carl Anthony Towns to be great, and they have, like,
[7:32] Speaker 4: the surrounding factors. But I think when it came down to,
[7:35] Speaker 4: you know, that championship physicality, you can't really miss out
[7:38] Speaker 4: on that. And I feel like so even though Mitchell
[7:40] Speaker 4: Robinson was hurt a lot, he was able to figure
[7:43] Speaker 4: out where he was going to be, you know, advantageous
[7:47] Speaker 4: amongst that roster. So I think that's the only thing
[7:49] Speaker 4: you really need, that front court presence, especially when you're
[7:52] Speaker 4: trying to go up against the Wimbees and the other
[7:54] Speaker 4: great bigs that are around. Even when you look down,
[7:56] Speaker 4: when we talked about down south with the Heat, you're
[7:59] Speaker 4: going to need some big fellas in a positive front
[8:03] Speaker 4: court in order to win a championship. So that's the
[8:05] Speaker 4: only person I really wish they would have brought back.
[8:07] Speaker 4: But that top eight is still legit. They're veteran-based. And
[8:11] Speaker 4: I think they learned how to, you know, learn their role,
[8:16] Speaker 4: accept their role, and start in their role. And that's
[8:17] Speaker 4: what brought the championship.
[8:19] Speaker 3: For sure.
[8:20] Speaker 1: Let's shift over to this side. Brendan, so we've seen
[8:21] Speaker 1: a lot of teams win that chip. Think about the Celtics.
[8:25] Speaker 1: Nuggets kind of retained that core, tried to bring it back,
[8:27] Speaker 1: run it back. Thunder as well, not being able to
[8:30] Speaker 1: even get back to the finals. You look at this
[8:31] Speaker 1: Knicks squad, keeping that start at five, keeping that core intact.
[8:34] Speaker 1: Did they make the right move? I think it was
[8:36] Speaker 1: definitely the right move.
[8:37] Speaker 5: Keep the core intact, bring everybody back, see if you
[8:40] Speaker 5: can do something special again. I like what Boogie was
[8:43] Speaker 5: talking about. Listen, they're the only team in the Eastern
[8:46] Speaker 5: Conference that they've got it figured out. They know where
[8:49] Speaker 5: the ball is going to go at certain times, who's
[8:51] Speaker 5: going to get what shots, no one's going to be complaining.
[8:54] Speaker 5: The biggest thing is being a champion, though. It's not
[8:56] Speaker 5: about as much the other teams. You get in that
[8:59] Speaker 5: regular season, it's about competing against yourself mentally. Because once
[9:02] Speaker 5: you go through that grind and you get to the mountaintop,
[9:04] Speaker 5: we all want to be a champion. Then you start
[9:06] Speaker 5: taking some of these regular season games for granted. That
[9:09] Speaker 5: complacency sets in that, oh, well, we've won it before.
[9:12] Speaker 5: We can turn it on when we want to. We
[9:14] Speaker 5: see so many champions get caught up in that trap.
[9:16] Speaker 5: Remember when the Boston Celtics won the next year, they
[9:18] Speaker 5: just wasn't quite the same. A lot of times championship
[9:22] Speaker 5: teams think they can keep flipping that switch and one
[9:24] Speaker 5: day you flip that switch and the lights don't turn on,
[9:26] Speaker 5: you're in the middle of the playoffs and you got
[9:27] Speaker 5: a dogfight on your hands. So I think bringing everybody
[9:30] Speaker 5: back was the right move. The only thing they need
[9:32] Speaker 5: to fight through is that mental, just that mental, I
[9:37] Speaker 5: don't know what it is, that mental lapse you can
[9:39] Speaker 5: have sometimes when you're a champion.
[9:40] Speaker 4: You think being in that big market is kind of
[9:42] Speaker 4: like inevitable to have the perception of that mental lapse because...
[9:46] Speaker 4: There's been times this year where they were killing one
[9:49] Speaker 4: NBA Cup championship and say they have three bad games.
[9:51] Speaker 4: Now East Coast media is making it seem like the
[9:54] Speaker 4: world is over. You know i'm saying even when they
[9:56] Speaker 4: went into the games versus the hawks they were ready
[9:58] Speaker 4: to get ready to write the narrative being like they
[10:00] Speaker 4: blew it again as opposed to just being like hey
[10:03] Speaker 4: these guys have been playing some of the best basketball
[10:06] Speaker 4: in the past couple years and they went on one
[10:07] Speaker 4: of the best finals runs in the past you know
[10:10] Speaker 4: 15 20 years they had a 12.9 point differential and
[10:14] Speaker 4: they showed like the veteranship and took out a young team.
[10:18] Speaker 4: You think that's inevitable, though?
[10:20] Speaker 5: I think that New York media can actually work for
[10:23] Speaker 5: them because there's one thing. You win a championship in OKC,
[10:26] Speaker 5: you know, the media, there's only a couple of media guys.
[10:28] Speaker 5: They all real nice. They might even be flying on
[10:31] Speaker 5: your team plane. You know what I'm saying? But when
[10:33] Speaker 5: you're in New York, you hit it right on the head.
[10:35] Speaker 5: You lose three games in a row. It's what's wrong
[10:37] Speaker 5: with these guys, and now everybody's turning against you. That
[10:40] Speaker 5: New York media is a different animal. When you go
[10:42] Speaker 5: into the media scrum of New York, you see all
[10:44] Speaker 5: the bright lights and everybody there.
[10:45] Speaker 4: So I think that.
[10:47] Speaker 5: being in that market can kind of actually work in
[10:50] Speaker 5: their favor because they're going to have to still be
[10:52] Speaker 5: hungry because any little slip-off, they're looking to write that
[10:55] Speaker 5: headline in whatever the main paper is.
[10:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[11:00] Speaker 1: Knicks outscored their opponents by 15 points per game last
[11:03] Speaker 1: postseason NBA record.
[11:04] Speaker 2: Swaggy looking at this crew.
[11:06] Speaker 3: Oh, man.
[11:06] Speaker 2: Championship experience on this couch when you look at this. Yeah.
[11:10] Speaker 2: Am I the only one?
[11:11] Speaker 4: Oh, no.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Don't do that. I forgot. I'm used to being the
[11:15] Speaker 2: only champion.
[11:15] Speaker 5: Hey, brother, don't disrespect him. I'm sorry.
[11:17] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[11:17] Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
[11:18] Speaker 2: But yeah. Got me a ring, brother.
[11:19] Speaker 3: He got him a ring, brother. He did.
[11:22] Speaker 2: 2020.
[11:23] Speaker 3: 2020.
[11:24] Speaker 4: Lakers.
[11:24] Speaker 2: Yes, sir. He did. He did. He had the bullies.
[11:28] Speaker 4: I didn't have to do shit, but I got it.
[11:31] Speaker 2: I got me a ring.
[11:32] Speaker 3: I did. We in the same boat.
[11:34] Speaker 5: You said you.
[11:36] Speaker 4: Didn't do nothing?
[11:37] Speaker 2: I did a lot.
[11:38] Speaker 4: I see. I did a lot.
[11:40] Speaker 2: I was out there.
[11:41] Speaker 4: What you think about these Knicks, though?
[11:42] Speaker 2: About these Knicks?
[11:43] Speaker 6: Yeah, they need to take a page from the Warriors,
[11:45] Speaker 6: for sure. You don't change the core, but you, you know,
[11:50] Speaker 6: you bring pieces in, like, you know, when the Warriors
[11:52] Speaker 6: run swaggy and like, You got to bring people in.
[11:56] Speaker 6: The break energy, the bench, you know, I like the
[11:58] Speaker 6: fact that, you know, the bench did well. You got
[12:01] Speaker 6: Alvarado that stepped up in the playoffs.
[12:04] Speaker 2: Who?
[12:04] Speaker 3: Who? Alvarado. I got one of those. Yeah, I had one.
[12:08] Speaker 2: Of those automobiles. He had the little guard. You know,
[12:11] Speaker 2: he played.
[12:12] Speaker 6: 40-something minutes. He did good, though, but I think you
[12:15] Speaker 6: don't panic because... When did he play 40 minutes? In
[12:18] Speaker 6: the championship game.
[12:18] Speaker 3: Oh, my bad, my bad.
[12:19] Speaker 2: Okay, my bad. I keep cutting you off. I'm going
[12:20] Speaker 2: to let you cut.
[12:21] Speaker 6: Yeah, when Makai Bridges was messing up and everybody was
[12:23] Speaker 6: on his head.
[12:24] Speaker 4: Makai Bridges?
[12:25] Speaker 5: Who's Makai Bridges?
[12:26] Speaker 4: You know who I'm talking about.
[12:27] Speaker 2: You're right. You're right. As long as y'all know who
[12:28] Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
[12:29] Speaker 6: When I say the name, it might not be right,
[12:32] Speaker 6: but you know who I'm talking about.
[12:33] Speaker 3: All right?
[12:34] Speaker 2: All right.
[12:35] Speaker 6: So to start in five, you don't change that up
[12:38] Speaker 6: just because everybody else is making changes, panics.
[12:40] Speaker 4: A lot of people got new teams.
[12:43] Speaker 6: You don't know how Philly going to really be.
[12:46] Speaker 2: I think they are the favorites.
[12:48] Speaker 6: And, you know, Bronson right now, to me, is probably
[12:51] Speaker 6: one of the best players in the NBA.
[12:54] Speaker 4: For sure.
[12:54] Speaker 2: All right, good. Let's move on to you.
[12:58] Speaker 3: So nobody went back-to-back? What?
[13:00] Speaker 2: The last eight seasons?
[13:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:03] Speaker 2: Make it nine. Nine. Make it nine.
[13:07] Speaker 4: Okay, she was hurt, so you got to add.
[13:09] Speaker 3: Make it nine.
[13:09] Speaker 2: Because what I.
[13:10] Speaker 3: Do know is, When you beat someone, they load up.
[13:20] Speaker 3: So the whole theory of we want it, let's run
[13:24] Speaker 3: it back the same, pretending that we have the number
[13:28] Speaker 3: one guard, the number one shooting guard, the number one
[13:31] Speaker 3: small forward so we don't have to upgrade while everybody
[13:34] Speaker 3: else is upgrading is the reason that they don't make
[13:38] Speaker 3: it back. It's always let's run it back so we can,
[13:41] Speaker 3: you know, show that we're back to back while everyone
[13:44] Speaker 3: else loaded up for your team. So you do need
[13:47] Speaker 3: new pieces, right? A better bench, a better six man,
[13:52] Speaker 3: a better seven man. Like you do need to load
[13:55] Speaker 3: up on your team to get better pieces, not just
[13:58] Speaker 3: starting five, but the people that's going to come off
[14:01] Speaker 3: that bench. You're going to need more help because everybody
[14:05] Speaker 3: else is going to get it. San Antonio's going to
[14:07] Speaker 3: get better. The teams that you beat are going to
[14:10] Speaker 3: get better.
[14:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, OKC in its own self. Not saying San Antonio
[14:14] Speaker 4: is the team to beat, but when you look how
[14:16] Speaker 4: OKC drafted, like who we go get, we went and
[14:19] Speaker 4: got Adai Mara just to combat who? The big fella
[14:22] Speaker 4: a couple hours away. Because they figure, yo, we win this.
[14:26] Speaker 4: I like our odds when we go maybe up against
[14:28] Speaker 4: the eventual champions, but you're absolutely right. They're prepping for
[14:32] Speaker 4: whoever beat them prior and the big dog in the league,
[14:35] Speaker 4: which is Wimby.
[14:36] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[14:37] Speaker 4: So it's like, man, they not going to go get
[14:39] Speaker 4: a guy to stop cats who's reducing his scoring. They're
[14:42] Speaker 4: going to go get a dude to stop the freak.
[14:45] Speaker 5: But Josiah said bringing back the star line. You got
[14:48] Speaker 5: to bring back the star line. You got to bring
[14:50] Speaker 5: the core back. The core is what, the top eight?
[14:53] Speaker 2: Top eight.
[14:53] Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, outside they lost Mitchell Robinson,
[14:56] Speaker 5: but the financials they had.
[14:57] Speaker 2: You got Drummond. Yeah. I think that's upgrade. Say what?
[15:00] Speaker 3: I think that's upgrade.
[15:01] Speaker 4: I think that was a good move.
[15:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was upgrade.
[15:03] Speaker 2: He'll hit somebody, that's for sure. He'll rebound.
[15:05] Speaker 5: I like Mitchell slightly more because he's just so much
[15:08] Speaker 5: more active.
[15:08] Speaker 3: I get a little bit more offense and some guaranteed
[15:11] Speaker 3: free throws.
[15:13] Speaker 5: Well, I'm just saying, Mitchell Robinson brings that.
[15:15] Speaker 2: Say what?
[15:15] Speaker 4: You're saying more free throws with Drummond? Drummond shot 35%. Yeah,
[15:18] Speaker 4: he's shooting the three ball now, too. But he might
[15:22] Speaker 4: take some shots.
[15:24] Speaker 5: But I still like Drummond being, like, they couldn't lose
[15:26] Speaker 5: Mitchell Robinson. From a financial standpoint, especially with the second
[15:30] Speaker 5: apron acting like a hard cap, they knew they were
[15:32] Speaker 5: going to lose Mitchell Robinson. Yeah, they're not touching that
[15:33] Speaker 5: second apron. Yeah, but he was huge for that team.
[15:36] Speaker 5: But I do believe they made the right move. But
[15:38] Speaker 5: I think you have a great point. There's other teams
[15:41] Speaker 5: that Miami's going to be better. You know, everybody knows
[15:44] Speaker 5: Philly's going to be a better team. Everybody's gearing up
[15:46] Speaker 5: to beat the Knicks, and the Knicks just have to,
[15:49] Speaker 5: for the most part, fight themselves mentally and don't take
[15:52] Speaker 5: the regular season for granted. Because championship-level teams... You want
[15:56] Speaker 5: to make sure you're doing the right things every single
[15:58] Speaker 5: day so that when you get to the playoffs, it's like, oh, yeah,
[16:01] Speaker 5: we know what it is. You can't be taking the shortcuts.
[16:03] Speaker 5: And that's why I think a lot of these teams
[16:04] Speaker 5: are falling short, plus the injuries.
[16:05] Speaker 6: But the Knicks know what they got, though. They know
[16:08] Speaker 6: each other. They know Brunson don't get the ball. Other
[16:10] Speaker 6: teams don't got that. Other teams still trying to figure
[16:12] Speaker 6: that out.
[16:13] Speaker 4: True. You got to add that into the situation. No, no, no.
[16:15] Speaker 2: Josh Hart know what the hell he's supposed to do.
[16:18] Speaker 4: Cat know.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Give it to Brunson.
[16:20] Speaker 3: But again, now it's still Brunson versus the world.
[16:24] Speaker 4: At some point, I think it is going to come
[16:31] Speaker 4: to a point where the Knicks are going to have to,
[16:35] Speaker 4: and I believe they believe that in OG, but when
[16:37] Speaker 4: you're looking at teams like Miami, you're looking at teams
[16:39] Speaker 4: like Philly who have a plethora of go-to options, I
[16:44] Speaker 4: think it's going to eventually come down to that.
[16:46] Speaker 3: As of.
[16:49] Speaker 4: Right now with the season beginning, you could say they're
[16:51] Speaker 4: the clear-cut favorite because it's a lot of seasons For Philly,
[16:56] Speaker 4: for Miami, for Washington, for Toronto. So those guys are
[17:00] Speaker 4: figuring it out. And their advantage is already having that
[17:03] Speaker 4: chemistry right now. So that can get them a 10,
[17:06] Speaker 4: 15-game lead in the standings. But that doesn't necessarily mean
[17:12] Speaker 4: come playoffs, come finals, that they're the clear-cut best team.
[17:16] Speaker 4: But the regular season, I'm putting my money on that.
[17:19] Speaker 4: Because that's the part that matters the most, going into
[17:21] Speaker 4: the regular season. Outside of health and, you know, those things.
[17:25] Speaker 4: But chemistry early on, that's one of the biggest things,
[17:29] Speaker 4: starting the regular season. Can you say in the east,
[17:32] Speaker 4: New York is the clear favorite? Yeah. In the east?
[17:35] Speaker 5: You got Philly.
[17:36] Speaker 4: He got Philly.
[17:36] Speaker 3: You got Philly?
[17:36] Speaker 2: I think number one would be Miami. Over New York?
[17:38] Speaker 4: Miami.
[17:44] Speaker 2: And this is just regular season we're talking about. Regular season.
[17:46] Speaker 2: Over Philly too? You know he's going to play hard
[17:48] Speaker 2: the whole time. You got Clay. You have Wiggins.
[17:52] Speaker 3: You have Bam.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Right?
[17:54] Speaker 3: And then you have young Phillip.
[17:55] Speaker 4: Right?
[17:56] Speaker 3: In Miami's system, they're going to be trying to make
[17:59] Speaker 3: a statement. So they're going to be playing the game. Philly,
[18:03] Speaker 3: with all the talent, going to be taking days off.
[18:06] Speaker 3: And B, you're going to want to take days off.
[18:08] Speaker 3: So you're going to be trying to run. But that
[18:12] Speaker 3: team is literally... when you're talking about one through five,
[18:18] Speaker 3: they're loaded. Like fast break, they're fast break loaded, skill loaded, athleticism.
[18:26] Speaker 3: They don't really have a real, real true flaw besides... Injury.
[18:31] Speaker 2: Bron and shooting. Bron being old.
[18:32] Speaker 3: That's about it.
[18:33] Speaker 2: Bron being old. That's it.
[18:35] Speaker 3: Everybody else got a flame. I mean, LeBron and Jalen
[18:38] Speaker 3: Brown is probably the shakiest one. And they're still at
[18:41] Speaker 3: 35 at the three. You know what I mean? So
[18:43] Speaker 3: that is their shakiest thing.
[18:45] Speaker 2: B.J.
[18:45] Speaker 3: Maxey.
[18:45] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[18:47] Speaker 3: They signed Dean Wade. Dean Wade was just signing. Brunson,
[18:51] Speaker 3: something happens to Brunson.
[18:53] Speaker 4: They're cool, isn't it?
[18:55] Speaker 3: New York's whole identity changes overnight.
[18:58] Speaker 2: Nobody else has that problem. But how you got Miami
[19:00] Speaker 2: over that, though?
[19:02] Speaker 3: Because they're going to load manage. They're going to be
[19:06] Speaker 3: gearing up for playoffs.
[19:08] Speaker 2: So they're going to start off here. I got Philly late, too.
[19:10] Speaker 3: And then they're going to take and then that....
[19:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's March.
[19:15] Speaker 3: That March push of everybody getting their timing, and then
[19:18] Speaker 3: that's when they're going to try to. They're going to
[19:20] Speaker 3: be just how the Knicks was at the end of
[19:21] Speaker 3: the season.
[19:21] Speaker 4: Hitting at the right time. 60 games a year at
[19:25] Speaker 4: this point.
[19:25] Speaker 1: How much confidence do you have in Giannis playing a
[19:28] Speaker 1: full season?
[19:28] Speaker 3: I know.
[19:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, Giannis has been having them calf strains.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Now, let's remove Giannis. Miami was still good, right? With
[19:37] Speaker 3: just Bam. Now you have Bam.
[19:38] Speaker 2: Where they?
[19:39] Speaker 4: Where they?
[19:39] Speaker 2: Where they? Bam, Wiggins, Klay, that's decent.
[19:43] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you said in the East?
[19:45] Speaker 4: I mean, Clay up there in age, too, so he's
[19:47] Speaker 4: going to be managed.
[19:49] Speaker 3: One thing we know, we know Pat Riley's team is
[19:51] Speaker 3: going to play hard. They're going to grind it out.
[19:54] Speaker 3: They're going to be locked in defensively. They're going to
[19:56] Speaker 3: be locked in.
[19:57] Speaker 2: They're going to be really good defensively. They were 10th
[19:58] Speaker 2: in the East though last season. Endurance?
[20:00] Speaker 3: I mean, endurance?
[20:02] Speaker 5: Defensively, Miami's going to be able to lock down. Their
[20:04] Speaker 5: front line is going to be incredible. Wiggins, Bam, Giannis.
[20:08] Speaker 5: That's a lot of defense. Davion at the point also.
[20:12] Speaker 4: Lockdown.
[20:12] Speaker 2: Even more defense.
[20:13] Speaker 4: Lockdown.
[20:14] Speaker 5: The only question for Miami is, we keep talking about
[20:18] Speaker 5: the Knicks. We understand Jalen Brunson time at the end
[20:20] Speaker 5: of the game. The question for Miami, they're going to
[20:23] Speaker 5: have to figure this out. How are you going to
[20:25] Speaker 5: win the close games? Because they're going to be able
[20:27] Speaker 5: to beat the bad teams. How is Miami going to
[20:30] Speaker 5: be able to win the close games? Who is taking
[20:32] Speaker 5: those shots? Because, like, is Giannis going to be the closer?
[20:36] Speaker 5: That's a question. I'm not saying he can't be, but
[20:38] Speaker 5: that's a question. Is he the closer? Is it Bam?
[20:41] Speaker 5: I don't know. All these other teams, we have guys... Hey,
[20:44] Speaker 5: if you look at Philly, I know Maxie can close
[20:46] Speaker 5: the game out. Seen it in the playoff. Proof of concept.
[20:48] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[20:49] Speaker 5: Like, hey, if you watch Jalen Brunson, we've seen what
[20:52] Speaker 5: he's been doing in the playoffs the last couple years.
[20:54] Speaker 5: I know he can close the game out. With Miami,
[20:56] Speaker 5: it's like... I know Giannis don't really want that jumper
[21:00] Speaker 5: with the last five minutes if it's a tight game.
[21:02] Speaker 5: Might not want to go to the free throw line.
[21:04] Speaker 5: They got to figure out or bring somebody in. You know,
[21:08] Speaker 5: like we heard they were in on possibly Kyrie. That
[21:10] Speaker 5: would totally change things. But they might need to find,
[21:13] Speaker 5: go find Miami. When I look at them, they might
[21:16] Speaker 5: need to go find that closer.
[21:17] Speaker 3: Tim Thomas!
[21:19] Speaker 2: Nah. What?
[21:20] Speaker 4: I think that you're going to get De'Aaron Fox.
[21:21] Speaker 2: Go get Fox.
[21:22] Speaker 3: I said Fox. I'm talking about getting somebody you don't
[21:25] Speaker 3: have to lose nobody.
[21:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[21:27] Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to have to lose anybody.
[21:28] Speaker 3: They won't lose anybody.
[21:29] Speaker 2: Yes, they will.
[21:31] Speaker 5: Boogie, his Fox money just kicks in this year.
[21:33] Speaker 2: That's perfect.
[21:35] Speaker 5: He making 50. He making 50.
[21:37] Speaker 4: So what?
[21:37] Speaker 2: Ain't nobody got to get rid of him. I don't
[21:39] Speaker 2: got nobody worth 50 on my team.
[21:40] Speaker 5: I didn't say I don't like Fox.
[21:42] Speaker 4: They made a big start. So Giannis only got so
[21:45] Speaker 4: much of a window. So I don't think Miami's in Obviously,
[21:49] Speaker 4: it could be other options that could upgrade that lineup,
[21:52] Speaker 4: but if I'm in a win-now mode, I'm not worried
[21:56] Speaker 4: about Fox making 50. I know he's healthy, and I
[21:59] Speaker 4: know he can impact this team at a position that
[22:01] Speaker 4: we need. Also, going through regular season, with the risk
[22:05] Speaker 4: of Giannis missing games, I do have a guy that's
[22:08] Speaker 4: been in that position before to kind of carry us
[22:10] Speaker 4: through the regular season. So, I think it's a win-win
[22:12] Speaker 4: for Miami, in my opinion. I mean, he said Cam Thomas,
[22:17] Speaker 4: or even bringing– It could be serious because remember back
[22:20] Speaker 4: in the 2019-2020 season, who was one of their leading
[22:22] Speaker 4: scorers for a larger part of the season? Kendrick Nunn.
[22:27] Speaker 4: And in that system, even going back to it, who
[22:29] Speaker 4: was one of their most important offensive players? Tyler Hero.
[22:32] Speaker 4: Tyler Hero and Duncan Robinson.
[22:35] Speaker 3: You need someone that's a wild card.
[22:37] Speaker 4: And they also have offensive sets, players, and everything to
[22:40] Speaker 4: make sure it's like, yo, this is just a chess piece.
[22:42] Speaker 4: We got to make sure this guy, if he can
[22:44] Speaker 4: put up 20, we're just going to get 20 out
[22:45] Speaker 4: of him because it'll be better for everything else and
[22:48] Speaker 4: literally like the domino effect. So I feel as though
[22:50] Speaker 4: that Cam Thomas thing I wouldn't be far off because
[22:53] Speaker 4: you get so cheap.
[22:54] Speaker 3: He comes in. If he comes in and he's.
[22:57] Speaker 2: Balling, he's like, cool, cool.
[22:59] Speaker 4: If he has a bad attitude and we can't deal
[23:01] Speaker 4: with it, go to him.
[23:02] Speaker 2: Hold on a second. We're talking about winning a championship, right?
[23:05] Speaker 3: And we're talking about.
[23:13] Speaker 5: You're going up against the Knicks with Jalen Brunson as
[23:15] Speaker 5: their closer. You're talking about going up against Philly with
[23:18] Speaker 5: Tyrese Maxey as their closer. You really think Miami in
[23:21] Speaker 5: a close game wants Cam Thomas to be their closer?
[23:23] Speaker 2: No, but defensively, shit.
[23:25] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, if we're talking about finding a
[23:27] Speaker 5: closer for Miami, it's got to be somebody. It's got
[23:31] Speaker 5: to be, like, that's why I brought up the name Kyrie.
[23:33] Speaker 5: You talk about winning a championship, your closer got to
[23:35] Speaker 5: be one of them ones. It can't be a guy
[23:37] Speaker 5: that's hanging out the league right now.
[23:39] Speaker 4: That's fair.
[23:39] Speaker 3: We're just talking about scoring.
[23:40] Speaker 2: We were talking about scoring.
[23:42] Speaker 4: We were talking about insurance during the regular season.
[23:45] Speaker 5: We were just talking about keeping that floor down. But
[23:47] Speaker 5: you are absolutely right. I'm thinking big picture. I'm thinking championship.
[23:51] Speaker 4: That's why that 50 with the air don't matter either.
[23:54] Speaker 4: I like, like I said, better options. Kyrie would be
[23:59] Speaker 4: The first I hear but once you go down from
[24:02] Speaker 4: there you got to start looking at the De'Aaron Foxes
[24:04] Speaker 4: the Darius Garland's I think that'll be a good.
[24:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:06] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah shit Clippers trying to get any they
[24:10] Speaker 4: can get they need to get a perfect guy to
[24:13] Speaker 4: fill that role So and I think you got two
[24:15] Speaker 4: years left on this deal So I think it's some
[24:18] Speaker 4: options out there obviously a Kyrie with already the championship
[24:21] Speaker 4: DNA He's shown that he can do it at the
[24:23] Speaker 4: highest level. I think that'll be the perfect first option
[24:26] Speaker 4: Now we start thinking about others that possibly maybe Dallas
[24:29] Speaker 4: don't want to get off him at the moment. De'Aaron Fox, Garland,
[24:32] Speaker 4: I think those are.
[24:33] Speaker 5: Dallas start losing some games. They might be willing to
[24:36] Speaker 5: get off of them, though. That's why I keep mentioning
[24:37] Speaker 5: Kyrie's name. Absolutely. Dallas start playing that game. They get
[24:41] Speaker 5: to that February deadline, they realize.
[24:43] Speaker 4: I mean, if Toronto could use... I think it's a
[24:45] Speaker 4: few teams that Kyrie away.
[24:46] Speaker 2: A lot of teams could use Kyrie. Exactly.
[24:48] Speaker 4: Up until that point, we keep talking so much hypothetics.
[24:52] Speaker 4: What they going to hang their head on night in
[24:54] Speaker 4: and night out?
[24:54] Speaker 2: Defense. And that's it. That's all they're going to play.
[24:57] Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That's all it is. That's how
[25:00] Speaker 3: you start off the beginning of the season.
[25:02] Speaker 4: That's going to be number one?
[25:04] Speaker 2: That is a gauntlet, bro.
[25:05] Speaker 3: To start off the season, you're talking about that head
[25:09] Speaker 3: start is going to be coming out of training camp.
[25:12] Speaker 3: Defense is always intact. Offense is usually second.
[25:16] Speaker 2: You get your offense second.
[25:17] Speaker 3: Defense and conditioning, whoever conditioned their asses off in the summer,
[25:21] Speaker 3: coming into training camp, that's who gets the lead.
[25:24] Speaker 4: I agree with you when it was the old East.
[25:28] Speaker 4: This new current day East?
[25:31] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[25:32] Speaker 4: Like I said, it's a gauntlet this year. It might
[25:36] Speaker 4: be two bad teams in the East. Everybody else has
[25:39] Speaker 4: a legit chance number making the playoffs and I'll be
[25:41] Speaker 4: better than even my.
[25:42] Speaker 1: Boss about the Pacers That's what the Pacers are highly
[25:47] Speaker 1: healthy now.
[25:48] Speaker 3: Like this is a godly.
[25:50] Speaker 5: I don't sleep. I don't come on now Don't sleep
[25:53] Speaker 5: on Charlotte. Don't sleep on the Hornets.
[25:54] Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, I still.
[25:57] Speaker 5: Got to go home You're going to go home regardless.
[26:01] Speaker 3: I got a flight going back to Charlotte tonight, man.
[26:03] Speaker 4: Charlotte, I don't know yet because I don't know how
[26:05] Speaker 4: I feel about the LaMelo move. I think LaMelo made
[26:08] Speaker 4: it exciting.
[26:09] Speaker 3: And Bridges is gone.
[26:10] Speaker 2: You just lost two.
[26:11] Speaker 3: Bridges is gone. They got Naj Reed. He lost 45 points.
[26:15] Speaker 4: Charlotte got Naj Reed to replace Bridges, a motherfucker hooper.
[26:20] Speaker 4: But Kobe White running the team, I don't know yet.
[26:24] Speaker 4: You got to replace 243s and assists.
[26:26] Speaker 2: I don't know yet.
[26:27] Speaker 4: Kobe White pushing the pace. It's Brandon Miller's team now.
[26:31] Speaker 4: I know you got Conk and Nipple, Nas Reed. I
[26:33] Speaker 4: don't know what's at that set. Is it the big
[26:35] Speaker 4: African kid? We don't know what's at it. Mubabafe or
[26:38] Speaker 4: some shit? The Cal Brenner kid is still there.
[26:41] Speaker 2: Maybe.
[26:42] Speaker 3: Maybe.
[26:42] Speaker 4: I think they're at that stage Orlando was at a
[26:46] Speaker 4: couple years.
[26:48] Speaker 5: I like Charlotte. I watch them a lot. I think
[26:50] Speaker 5: Brandon Miller's going to take that step. I think Conk
[26:52] Speaker 5: and Nipple's going to take that step. They're going to
[26:54] Speaker 5: run a lot of offense through them.
[26:55] Speaker 4: You got to do broadcasting for Charlotte, huh?
[26:58] Speaker 5: No, that's not a wisdom.
[26:59] Speaker 2: Don't do me like that.
[26:59] Speaker 5: You should have said my home.
[27:00] Speaker 6: The way he was talking, the way he was talking
[27:02] Speaker 6: was like... Like, there wasn't going to be a play-in
[27:04] Speaker 6: team at best.
[27:06] Speaker 5: I think Charlotte's going to be a play-off team. I
[27:09] Speaker 5: like Kobe White.
[27:10] Speaker 4: I don't think so.
[27:11] Speaker 2: What you guys going to be like that for, man?
[27:12] Speaker 3: Don't you be cutting your eyes off.
[27:14] Speaker 2: Bro, I mean, come on, man.
[27:15] Speaker 3: Come on, he got to broadcast for this.
[27:17] Speaker 5: I don't broadcast. Yo, Curry broadcast for.
[27:20] Speaker 1: This, man.
[27:21] Speaker 4: Philly, Boston, Toronto, Cleveland.
[27:26] Speaker 2: Wizards.
[27:28] Speaker 4: No.
[27:28] Speaker 2: Wizards not there. Shit. Wizards better than Sharks.
[27:31] Speaker 3: Wizards better than Sharks.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Wizards.
[27:33] Speaker 4: Wizards.
[27:33] Speaker 3: Wizards going to make it.
[27:35] Speaker 2: Who am I missing?
[27:36] Speaker 3: Oh, the Knicks.
[27:37] Speaker 2: The Knicks.
[27:38] Speaker 3: Miami going to be.
[27:39] Speaker 2: The fifth seed. Orlando. Indiana. Indiana.
[27:44] Speaker 5: Okay.
[27:44] Speaker 2: Miami is the fifth seed.
[27:45] Speaker 5: I'm I can admit when I'm wrong.
[27:47] Speaker 2: You know what? You got me.
[27:48] Speaker 3: You got me. You got me.
[27:50] Speaker 5: I was a little too bold on my Charlotte thing. Hey,
[27:54] Speaker 5: sometimes you got to admit when you're wrong.
[27:55] Speaker 3: You got me.
[27:56] Speaker 2: They're in the right direction. I agree.
[27:58] Speaker 4: Like I said, they Orlando a couple years ago.
[28:01] Speaker 1: Well, let's shift it back to the Knicks real quick.
[28:02] Speaker 1: I just want to read you the Knicks' first six
[28:04] Speaker 1: games to start this season.
[28:06] Speaker 5: Loss.
[28:07] Speaker 1: Home versus Philly. On the road at the Celtics. Home
[28:11] Speaker 1: versus the Magic. Home versus the Pistons. Then they got
[28:14] Speaker 1: the Bulls. And then they're at Philly. And then they're
[28:17] Speaker 1: at Philly. So five of their first six games. You
[28:20] Speaker 1: got the Sixers twice. Yeah, they can go three and three.
[28:23] Speaker 4: Easy. They can start off easy.
[28:26] Speaker 2: Oh, Detroit. Hold on.
[28:27] Speaker 3: Run that back?
[28:28] Speaker 1: So, they start the season at home against the Sixers.
[28:31] Speaker 1: Then they go to the Celtics. I think they win that.
[28:33] Speaker 1: I think they win Celtics.
[28:34] Speaker 2: We're at. We're at. LeBron lose every first game. But
[28:38] Speaker 2: this is a new LeBron. It is new.
[28:40] Speaker 3: These are brand new teams, too, though. These are all
[28:44] Speaker 3: brand new teams.
[28:44] Speaker 5: Hey, man, championship band tonight, they winning that one.
[28:47] Speaker 2: Man, come on.
[28:49] Speaker 5: It's hard to win that one.
[28:55] Speaker 1: Home versus Sixers on the road versus Celtics. Home versus
[28:58] Speaker 1: the Magic. Home versus the Pistons. On the road at
[29:00] Speaker 1: the Bulls. And then on the road at the Sixers.
[29:04] Speaker 4: They might go 6-0.
[29:04] Speaker 1: 4-2.
[29:04] Speaker 4: They might go 6-0.
[29:09] Speaker 2: If they go four and two, that'd be good. That's good.
[29:13] Speaker 2: You can sit your starters for one game.
[29:17] Speaker 3: Four and two is amazing. Man, we just started. And
[29:20] Speaker 3: you got Philly out twice.
[29:21] Speaker 2: Come on, man.
[29:22] Speaker 3: That's fantastic. That's all brand new teams.
[29:25] Speaker 4: Yeah. I think five and one.
[29:29] Speaker 2: Do the math, kid.
[29:29] Speaker 5: What math you doing over there?
[29:31] Speaker 2: Do the math.
[29:32] Speaker 5: What math you doing? Whenever you look up, you're doing
[29:33] Speaker 5: that beautiful mind math.
[29:34] Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to figure out Philly... Philly. Philly got
[29:41] Speaker 3: them twice that early.
[29:43] Speaker 2: In 10 days. Yeah. 20th, October 20th. So you don't
[29:45] Speaker 2: got to worry about them no more.
[29:47] Speaker 5: You're supposed to play them four times. They got at
[29:48] Speaker 5: least like one.
[29:48] Speaker 2: That's why.
[29:49] Speaker 3: That's why Adam said, I want to know where LeBron's
[29:51] Speaker 3: going so I can finish his schedule.
[29:53] Speaker 2: Where's he going.
[29:55] Speaker 3: So I can finish his schedule?
[29:56] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Play them, them, them, get
[29:58] Speaker 2: them out of the way. Then you're going to have
[29:59] Speaker 2: like 10 straight home games.
[30:01] Speaker 4: Respect, fella.
[30:03] Speaker 5: You know, that's why he was putting that part. He
[30:06] Speaker 5: needed to make sure some of them games were not
[30:07] Speaker 5: on the same game some of the NFL days, you know.
[30:10] Speaker 3: I'm the only, I do not like when championship teams
[30:19] Speaker 3: have this hard team first game. I don't like how that–
[30:24] Speaker 3: I don't like that. It's the NBA season coming back.
[30:27] Speaker 3: Everybody happy anyway. So, Knicks, you get the bottom feeding team.
[30:32] Speaker 3: You deserve that. I want you to start off a
[30:35] Speaker 3: little 5-0. So, go ahead and get some of that shit.
[30:38] Speaker 2: Out the way. Play the Nets.
[30:39] Speaker 5: What, you think it's a college football schedule, like that
[30:41] Speaker 5: first game?
[30:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, you playing Florida A & M?
[30:44] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[30:44] Speaker 3: No. Oh, man, there's a reason you start off 12-0
[30:48] Speaker 3: and you're the number one team in the country. You
[30:50] Speaker 3: ain't played nobody yet, but you got all the confidence.
[30:53] Speaker 2: 12-0, good. That's what I'm saying.
[30:54] Speaker 3: Why are they playing a contender two times already?
[30:57] Speaker 4: Already.
[30:58] Speaker 5: Already.
[31:00] Speaker 3: Already started.
[31:01] Speaker 5: We can't start the season off bored as shit.
[31:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
[31:06] Speaker 3: Like, who was Spurs playing OKC? Now these championship-caliber teams
[31:11] Speaker 3: already taking the L.
[31:12] Speaker 2: Man, you still got time. 87 games, man.
[31:15] Speaker 4: You can't start the season off sleepy as fuck.
[31:19] Speaker 3: Alabama versus Alcorn State.
[31:20] Speaker 2: How they doing? How they doing?
[31:21] Speaker 4: The number one team play who? 16.
[31:23] Speaker 3: If I'm the next, give me 16.
[31:24] Speaker 2: Give me the 16 team.
[31:35] Speaker 5: Listen, that first game of the season, man, you in
[31:39] Speaker 5: the middle of October, all this football going on, you
[31:42] Speaker 5: got to get people excited. They're going to be sleepy
[31:44] Speaker 5: if the Knicks play in Sacramento. That's why you got
[31:47] Speaker 5: to have... That's why you got to have Knicks versus Philly.
[31:52] Speaker 5: You got to have... Oh, yeah, Braun.
[31:53] Speaker 2: Coming to town.
[31:54] Speaker 5: Let's see what this is at. We got to have
[31:56] Speaker 5: Shea versus... We got to have Shea versus Wimby. You
[32:00] Speaker 5: got to get the fan base excited.
[32:01] Speaker 1: The first game of the season, Why not do Knicks
[32:04] Speaker 1: versus Spurs like the NFL would do it?
[32:06] Speaker 2: No, no.
[32:08] Speaker 3: Listen, listen. It could be Knicks versus Knicks.
[32:11] Speaker 2: Like Luka, right? Like Luka.
[32:13] Speaker 3: Whoever the worst defense, whoever he gets his shit off on.
[32:17] Speaker 3: I want the first day him have 70. Like that 70.
[32:20] Speaker 3: I want you to start off right. I want to
[32:23] Speaker 3: start off right.
[32:25] Speaker 2: You can't schedule.
[32:26] Speaker 3: You can't schedule. I don't want to have 10 because
[32:28] Speaker 3: I'm playing OKC and they're picking me up full court.
[32:30] Speaker 3: You can't schedule.
[32:32] Speaker 5: Now I'm doing.
[32:32] Speaker 3: Ketchup the whole season. Give me 70 off the jump.
[32:37] Speaker 5: You can't schedule the Sacramento Kings for game one of
[32:40] Speaker 5: the season.
[32:40] Speaker 3: I can.
[32:41] Speaker 2: No.
[32:41] Speaker 3: Ain't nobody getting excited about that. If Knicks played the
[32:45] Speaker 3: first game. If Knicks played the first game and they
[32:48] Speaker 3: won by 40, what you think?
[32:49] Speaker 2: Oh, the Knicks is back off.
[32:51] Speaker 3: They started again.
[32:52] Speaker 2: You got it hype, baby.
[32:53] Speaker 5: You can't have the Knicks versus Brooklyn first game.
[32:55] Speaker 2: Nah, man.
[32:56] Speaker 3: You can do that.
[32:57] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[32:58] Speaker 3: It's great.
[32:59] Speaker 4: In New York, they get that slow start, and it's
[33:01] Speaker 4: a little interesting.
[33:03] Speaker 2: You can get away with it.
[33:05] Speaker 5: Like I said, Nick's playing Philly. I'm going to be
[33:08] Speaker 5: tuned in. I want to see what Ron's going to do.
[33:10] Speaker 5: I want to see if Philly's going.
[33:11] Speaker 3: To put it together. That's a Christmas game.
[33:13] Speaker 2: You can do that, too.
[33:14] Speaker 4: I'm saying that worse. You can do New York and Brooklyn.
[33:19] Speaker 4: I don't agree with you, though. We happy to see
[33:22] Speaker 4: basketball anyway. So we watch it anyway.
[33:25] Speaker 2: How many Sacramento games you watch? Not many.
[33:28] Speaker 3: I'm not watching Sacramento.
[33:29] Speaker 2: See?
[33:29] Speaker 4: So you're not watching that.
[33:31] Speaker 3: But if the nigga scores 70, we didn't watch Miami
[33:36] Speaker 3: versus Wizards.
[33:37] Speaker 2: And when we heard.
[33:38] Speaker 3: A motherfucker out there got 65 in the third, we like, what?
[33:41] Speaker 2: Click. Hey, speak for yourself. I work for the Wizards.
[33:43] Speaker 5: I was tuned in.
[33:44] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Hey, I got to protect
[33:46] Speaker 2: the check. There will be no Wizards standing on this show.
[33:49] Speaker 2: There will be none. It's crazy.
[33:51] Speaker 4: Brian don't want to show his hand or nothing. They literally, like,
[33:55] Speaker 4: I'm saying LeBron sometimes he's notorious for losing his first
[33:58] Speaker 4: game of the year, and I don't believe it's because
[34:00] Speaker 4: he's not prepared. I think sometimes it's like, bro, this
[34:02] Speaker 4: is a big game. It's chest, not checkers.
[34:04] Speaker 2: You got the hardest game. LeBron 0-4 in debuts with
[34:06] Speaker 2: the new team.
[34:06] Speaker 3: But you got the hardest game game one. Yeah. Come on,
[34:10] Speaker 3: they turned off the Boston game because Bam was popping.
[34:15] Speaker 2: He was getting to it. He had to do something
[34:17] Speaker 2: amazing for that to happen.
[34:19] Speaker 1: So let's get back to the Knicks real quick. So
[34:21] Speaker 1: with all the moves made around the league this offseason,
[34:23] Speaker 1: especially in the East, do the Knicks have the best
[34:25] Speaker 1: starting five in the league?
[34:27] Speaker 2: The best? No.
[34:30] Speaker 5: Philly has the best starting five, but I think the
[34:32] Speaker 5: Knicks are a better team. But the most talented is Philly,
[34:35] Speaker 5: for sure. Philly's the most talented team in the Eastern Conference.
[34:39] Speaker 4: They're the most talented team in the NBA.
[34:42] Speaker 5: That's starting five?
[34:44] Speaker 3: Spurs still walking.
[34:44] Speaker 5: Around in it.
[34:45] Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Don't make me look bad again.
[34:48] Speaker 2: I think it's a real conversation.
[34:56] Speaker 4: I think the Spurs are a young, up-and-coming group, even
[34:59] Speaker 4: with the run that they made. Like, we all know
[35:01] Speaker 4: they're getting better, but we talking about established, a group
[35:04] Speaker 4: of established talent. Maybe outside of V.J. Edgecombe, who could
[35:10] Speaker 4: have easily been Rookie of the Year if he was
[35:12] Speaker 4: in his own situation. Tyrese Massey, V.J. Edgecombe, Jalen Brown,
[35:17] Speaker 4: Finals MVP. LeBron James. And Joel Embiid. Each person wins.
[35:24] Speaker 6: We have three MVPs in the lineup.
[35:27] Speaker 2: But you're looking at the paper.
[35:30] Speaker 3: You said the best.
[35:31] Speaker 2: He said the best talent. Not the best.
[35:33] Speaker 1: I mean, who's going to actually be out there?
[35:36] Speaker 2: This might be one of the best starting fives ever.
[35:39] Speaker 3: Ever.
[35:40] Speaker 2: It's three MVPs, period.
[35:42] Speaker 3: One star level. I can bet that.
[35:43] Speaker 2: Go ahead. I understand where you're coming from. You're absolutely right.
[35:47] Speaker 4: It's The other day we argued so much on egos,
[35:52] Speaker 4: how we can make it work, everything like that. When
[35:54] Speaker 4: you combat it, when you go back to New York Knicks,
[35:56] Speaker 4: it's like they've already gotten through the hurdles of a
[35:59] Speaker 4: new coach, of getting a superstar who averaged 20-some points
[36:04] Speaker 4: a game since the rookie year to average sub-20 and
[36:06] Speaker 4: just rebound, set screens.
[36:08] Speaker 2: They got two elite 3 and.
[36:10] Speaker 4: D players in their lineup, along with probably one of
[36:13] Speaker 4: the best role players ever. the historic we've seen like
[36:16] Speaker 4: just knowing his role like being like yo every every
[36:19] Speaker 4: eighth game he's going to get a triple double and
[36:21] Speaker 4: then you got mr clutch one of the best performers
[36:25] Speaker 4: in recent history like you got to take that two
[36:27] Speaker 4: three elite three and d players a elite clutch player
[36:31] Speaker 4: the best role player and then one of the best
[36:33] Speaker 4: shooting bigs of all time that's also leading league in
[36:36] Speaker 4: rebounds he can defend block shots like Just proving, that's dangerous.
[36:43] Speaker 3: I think that's a different conversation. He's saying talent.
[36:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's team.
[36:48] Speaker 3: When you say it like that, team.
[36:51] Speaker 1: Do they have the best starting five?
[36:54] Speaker 4: Starting five just based on talent?
[36:56] Speaker 2: Philly.
[36:57] Speaker 4: Philly. Absolutely.
[36:58] Speaker 3: I'm not against that.
[36:59] Speaker 2: I agree with you.
[37:00] Speaker 4: I think New York is the best team starting the season.
[37:03] Speaker 4: Clear cut.
[37:04] Speaker 5: Best on paper. We've never seen this shit. Talent-wise, Philly's
[37:10] Speaker 5: got the most talent. From a team standpoint, and you're
[37:13] Speaker 5: talking about team makeup, like them 3 and D guys,
[37:16] Speaker 5: they're going to do all the dirty work and knock
[37:18] Speaker 5: down shots. Those are essential. So when you say talent-wise,
[37:21] Speaker 5: we go to Philly.
[37:22] Speaker 2: When you say.
[37:22] Speaker 5: Overall team chemistry, camaraderie, and how they're built, that's when
[37:25] Speaker 5: you go Knicks, OKC, and Spurs over Philly easily.
[37:29] Speaker 4: And when we go back to talent and we argue...
[37:31] Speaker 4: What about the old school Lakers when they.
[37:33] Speaker 3: Brought Karl Malone, Kobe, Gary Payton?
[37:36] Speaker 2: That's the one, but they were old. They were old, yeah.
[37:39] Speaker 3: Karl Malone was old. Gary Payton was old when they
[37:42] Speaker 3: came in. I was on a team.
[37:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, so Shaq and Kobe. And then who was the other?
[37:46] Speaker 4: I agree.
[37:46] Speaker 2: I'm taking Philly over there. Then Derrick Fisher.
[37:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[37:49] Speaker 2: Right?
[37:50] Speaker 3: Because Gary Payton was going back and forth.
[37:52] Speaker 4: Warriors?
[37:53] Speaker 2: Steph, KD.
[37:53] Speaker 3: Who was the five?
[37:54] Speaker 2: They still didn't have three MVPs.
[37:55] Speaker 3: Who was the five, man?
[37:56] Speaker 4: True, true, true. Yeah.
[37:57] Speaker 2: Steph, KD. It's never been three MVPs in a lot.
[38:00] Speaker 4: Let's play.
[38:02] Speaker 2: David West. Eagle Dollar.
[38:05] Speaker 3: Okay.
[38:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying.
[38:08] Speaker 3: Name a better five. Okay.
[38:11] Speaker 2: No, you can't.
[38:12] Speaker 3: Maxie. Who is he better than him?
[38:14] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown.
[38:16] Speaker 4: Steph.
[38:17] Speaker 2: Maxie and Steph. Who are you taking?
[38:18] Speaker 4: Steph.
[38:19] Speaker 2: Okay. Next.
[38:21] Speaker 3: Next is the shooting guard.
[38:22] Speaker 2: Vijay or Klay right now?
[38:24] Speaker 4: Who are you taking? Klay. Okay.
[38:27] Speaker 2: Brown or KD?
[38:28] Speaker 4: Who are you taking?
[38:28] Speaker 2: KD. KD.
[38:30] Speaker 4: Draymond and LeBron, okay.
[38:32] Speaker 2: And then the five. Who was on five? So my
[38:36] Speaker 2: four and my five. Well, Eagle Dollar.
[38:37] Speaker 3: It's Eagle Dollar.
[38:38] Speaker 2: It don't matter who it is, but.
[38:39] Speaker 3: The four-five is so far in front of the four-five.
[38:42] Speaker 3: The one, two, three.
[38:43] Speaker 2: I got 28.
[38:44] Speaker 3: I got 28 to step third. That baby didn't give
[38:46] Speaker 3: Looney a watch. Like, literally.
[38:47] Speaker 1: Wait.
[38:51] Speaker 4: I'm saying when you talk about the five and you
[38:53] Speaker 4: talk about, like, who's better.
[38:54] Speaker 2: Let me stop.
[38:56] Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's a great five.
[38:58] Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying Eagle Doll at the four. Eagle Doll, LeBron.
[39:02] Speaker 3: Okay, but when we're talking about five, you're talking about accolades.
[39:05] Speaker 5: So you're saying the Golden State, that's the best starting five?
[39:07] Speaker 2: No, no, no, because you have to put the accolades.
[39:09] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[39:10] Speaker 3: The team you was on?
[39:11] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[39:13] Speaker 2: We won. No, no, no. We get it.
[39:15] Speaker 4: We're talking about the best on paper, though. That means
[39:19] Speaker 4: y'all team was not better than our team on paper.
[39:22] Speaker 3: You got to add that. Five all-stars, Nick. I get it.
[39:26] Speaker 3: I get it. accolades. The shooting guards. Do that one.
[39:32] Speaker 2: You got Steph, Klay, KD, Draymond. Thank you.
[39:34] Speaker 3: I'm still going with Philly over us, though, to be honest.
[39:38] Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's still.
[39:49] Speaker 2: On paper. No, no, no.
[39:51] Speaker 4: Come on.
[39:52] Speaker 2: On paper.
[39:52] Speaker 5: Listen, on paper. Two MVPs versus three MVPs.
[39:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[39:57] Speaker 5: On paper, Philly's one of the more talented teams.
[39:59] Speaker 2: I mean, you versus MVP.
[40:00] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[40:01] Speaker 3: I don't have an MVP, so I can't.
[40:04] Speaker 2: He had two scoring titles. That's what I'm saying.
[40:07] Speaker 4: You have three MVPs in the starting lineup. You got
[40:10] Speaker 4: KD and Steph, bro.
[40:11] Speaker 2: Who measures up to that?
[40:13] Speaker 3: Three MVPs.
[40:14] Speaker 6: LeBron and Maxie don't measure.
[40:16] Speaker 2: Up to that. I don't give a what y'all, whatever
[40:18] Speaker 2: y'all say.
[40:18] Speaker 3: KD and Steph.
[40:19] Speaker 4: So, Embiid and Jalen Brown are just some bums. That's
[40:22] Speaker 4: what you're trying to convince me of. You're arguing KD
[40:25] Speaker 4: and Steph. You're talking about two top teams.
[40:28] Speaker 3: One is one and ever.
[40:29] Speaker 2: Best ever. And the other one is top three.
[40:31] Speaker 3: Fine, but it's still three MVPs. You got two top
[40:35] Speaker 3: tens and then you got some 600s.
[40:36] Speaker 1: No.
[40:39] Speaker 3: Where was Looney? 700, 800, 900, 1,000?
[40:40] Speaker 2: Don't do the rope.
[40:40] Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
[40:41] Speaker 2: That's my cousin. That's my cousin.
[40:43] Speaker 3: Your cousin's 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000?
[40:43] Speaker 4: Get him his watch, bro.
[40:49] Speaker 3: Damn, he didn't watch?
[40:50] Speaker 2: He didn't get that one. I would have forgot about
[40:52] Speaker 2: the nigga, too.
[40:52] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[40:52] Speaker 5: Don't do it like that, man.
[40:54] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. He played for the Lakers now.
[40:57] Speaker 2: He played for the Lakers. Looney, you can't say that.
[41:00] Speaker 1: What?
[41:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[41:01] Speaker 4: You're the only respect on my dog, Looney, man. The
[41:05] Speaker 4: black dude there.
[41:06] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[41:06] Speaker 2: The old black dude.
[41:07] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[41:08] Speaker 2: The black dude.
[41:08] Speaker 3: The big one.
[41:11] Speaker 1: The Revitalago of Lakers.
[41:13] Speaker 3: Once I went all white, you know what I mean?
[41:18] Speaker 3: It's hard to recognize.
[41:19] Speaker 2: It's hard to recognize these things.
[41:20] Speaker 1: All right. So, Swaggy, question for you. Obviously, we saw
[41:26] Speaker 1: what Jalen Brunson did in the postseason, winning the chip finals.
[41:29] Speaker 1: MVP's been speaking very highly of him. Had major love
[41:32] Speaker 1: for him when we saw him in New York. Back
[41:34] Speaker 1: in July, Fanatics Fest, you guys had a great interaction there.
[41:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
[41:38] Speaker 4: That's my dog.
[41:38] Speaker 2: Other situations going on.
[41:39] Speaker 1: But what impact does winning the chip and finals MVP
[41:41] Speaker 1: have on Jalen Brunson standing in the league?
[41:45] Speaker 2: Best points on the league.
[41:48] Speaker 4: Right now.
[41:48] Speaker 2: Nobody's done what he's done.
[41:51] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[41:52] Speaker 2: Until somebody trumps that, being, what, 5'8, he did.
[41:56] Speaker 6: He beat everybody that was against him, said shit about him.
[42:00] Speaker 2: You can't say shit about him.
[42:02] Speaker 3: 5'8, took over the league. Hold on.
[42:04] Speaker 2: 5'8, 2'4.
[42:05] Speaker 3: Took over the league, though.
[42:06] Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question.
[42:08] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[42:09] Speaker 2: 5'8, took over the league.
[42:11] Speaker 3: He ain't 5'8, man. He ain't 5'8. That's the way
[42:14] Speaker 3: y'all was saying it.
[42:15] Speaker 2: You give him hair tennis.
[42:17] Speaker 1: He's 5'7.
[42:17] Speaker 4: You make it look way better.
[42:20] Speaker 5: So you got 5'5.
[42:22] Speaker 3: 5'11.
[42:22] Speaker 5: No small golf.
[42:23] Speaker 2: Well, he did. So Jalen Brunson's better.
[42:27] Speaker 3: You got to put him up there with LeBron. No,
[42:29] Speaker 3: I put him up there. I'm not asking you.
[42:30] Speaker 5: So you got Jalen Brunson over Shea.
[42:33] Speaker 3: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
[42:35] Speaker 5: It's aggressive.
[42:35] Speaker 3: Hell, yeah. That's crazy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are we doing?
[42:39] Speaker 3: They had the same thing.
[42:40] Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
[42:41] Speaker 5: They couldn't do it against us first.
[42:43] Speaker 3: Brunson did.
[42:44] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[42:44] Speaker 2: Bro, they went game seven without Jalen Williams, though.
[42:47] Speaker 6: That doesn't matter. Who is Jalen Williams compared to everybody else?
[42:50] Speaker 4: Jalen Williams is the top 15 player in the league.
[42:53] Speaker 2: Jalen Williams is a cheese OG.
[42:55] Speaker 3: So, Brunson don't have none of that, right?
[42:57] Speaker 2: Who's top 15 on Brunson's team?
[42:59] Speaker 4: Cat.
[42:59] Speaker 3: Cat. Cat.
[43:01] Speaker 2: He's top 15? He's close.
[43:02] Speaker 4: And then he got three dudes that go there. That's
[43:04] Speaker 4: why Cat don't like you.
[43:05] Speaker 3: That's why Cat don't like you. You beat the odds, bro.
[43:09] Speaker 3: You beat the odds. You won with this, too. You
[43:12] Speaker 3: won with this. Hey, listen.
[43:14] Speaker 2: They won with what?
[43:15] Speaker 3: I think he the best.
[43:16] Speaker 2: I think he the best closer. I think he the
[43:19] Speaker 2: best closer. Think about it. Hold on, though. Who they
[43:23] Speaker 2: won with? He's licking my hand like this.
[43:25] Speaker 4: That's why I ain't like that. I think Brunson is
[43:27] Speaker 4: the best closer.
[43:29] Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
[43:30] Speaker 4: Point guard.
[43:31] Speaker 2: One of the best. Best guard in the league.
[43:33] Speaker 4: Might be the best player, low-key.
[43:34] Speaker 2: Man, that's impressive.
[43:35] Speaker 4: Just because I like Ant-Man, I don't want to put
[43:37] Speaker 4: him over Ant-Man.
[43:38] Speaker 2: Listen, I'm going to tell you this, though. Who's done
[43:41] Speaker 2: what he's done?
[43:41] Speaker 3: After Brunson won, it made me rethink how good Isaiah
[43:47] Speaker 3: Thomas was.
[43:48] Speaker 2: Little IT?
[43:48] Speaker 5: Big IT.
[43:49] Speaker 4: Which one?
[43:49] Speaker 2: Big IT? I guess it'd be bigger than the little one. Detroit.
[43:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, Detroit.
[43:53] Speaker 2: Detroit.
[43:53] Speaker 3: And the reason that is is When you're talking about
[43:56] Speaker 3: a guard being 6'2, and you are the best player
[44:01] Speaker 3: on the team, winning a championship, you're talking about, in
[44:07] Speaker 3: this history, there's only been three of you?
[44:11] Speaker 2: Brunson, Steph, and Isaiah.
[44:14] Speaker 3: We watched what Brunson did, so we know how hard
[44:19] Speaker 3: that was.
[44:20] Speaker 4: For sure.
[44:20] Speaker 3: So it made me rethink back.
[44:22] Speaker 4: Wait.
[44:25] Speaker 3: You know how, and I've seen that Detroit team. You
[44:29] Speaker 3: know how good and on point you had to be
[44:33] Speaker 3: to win back-to-back championships while it was a Lakers team,
[44:39] Speaker 3: a Boston team, and Chicago coming up.
[44:43] Speaker 2: And Michael Jordan.
[44:44] Speaker 3: All NBAs, because he didn't make them because they didn't
[44:47] Speaker 3: have third team back then. So he only got a
[44:50] Speaker 3: few because we didn't have third. It was like, yo,
[44:53] Speaker 3: he was way better than what history is saying. So
[44:57] Speaker 3: it made me put him in my five.
[45:01] Speaker 2: And that's why... Your five of what?
[45:03] Speaker 3: Top five. That's what it took? He wasn't already there? No, no.
[45:08] Speaker 2: But that's why.
[45:09] Speaker 3: Come on.
[45:10] Speaker 2: You know what?
[45:12] Speaker 3: My team starts... My five starts with Magic.
[45:15] Speaker 2: That's fine. That's the 90s. I think he was in
[45:17] Speaker 2: the 80s.
[45:18] Speaker 3: Magic, Steph, Isaiah. Simple. That's the top three.
[45:21] Speaker 5: Are you talking about your top five point guards?
[45:23] Speaker 3: All time. That's the top three?
[45:25] Speaker 5: He was already in the top five point guards. But
[45:27] Speaker 5: to your point.
[45:29] Speaker 3: Top three. Automatic.
[45:30] Speaker 5: You're saying Jalen Brown winning made you realize that we
[45:32] Speaker 5: took Isaiah for granted?
[45:33] Speaker 2: Yes.
[45:34] Speaker 4: By far.
[45:35] Speaker 2: Who did I say? Jalen Brown? My bad.
[45:36] Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson winning made you realize that... And Isaiah Thomas
[45:40] Speaker 5: feels like that.
[45:41] Speaker 2: I work with Isaiah.
[45:42] Speaker 5: He feels overlooked to a certain degree because, hey, listen,
[45:46] Speaker 5: I know Magic was playing. I know Jordan was out there. Dog,
[45:50] Speaker 5: I won two chips when those guys were out there.
[45:53] Speaker 5: And if you really go back and do the history...
[45:56] Speaker 5: Should have been three right? They had the Lakers.
[45:58] Speaker 2: On the brink.
[45:59] Speaker 5: There was a phantom foul against Kareem Abdul-Jabbar He would
[46:02] Speaker 5: have had a game that would have went down as
[46:04] Speaker 5: the greatest of all time in the finals because that
[46:06] Speaker 5: was the ankle game He came back in I forgot
[46:08] Speaker 5: the numbers were crazy to assist the steals and there
[46:11] Speaker 5: was a bogus foul called that they would have won
[46:13] Speaker 5: the championship So to your point Isaiah Thomas definitely feels
[46:17] Speaker 5: overlooked because we talked about the Lakers era, right?
[46:20] Speaker 3: Right.
[46:20] Speaker 5: We skip over the bad. We talk about the Lakers
[46:22] Speaker 5: and the Celtics. We skip over the bad boy era,
[46:25] Speaker 5: and then we go straight to the Jordan era. Like,
[46:27] Speaker 5: if you even think about it, when you go back
[46:29] Speaker 5: and watch greatest games, they don't even show you the
[46:32] Speaker 5: games when the Pistons beat the Bulls. They never show
[46:35] Speaker 5: those games.
[46:35] Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, bro.
[46:37] Speaker 3: Pop that shit for the OG, bro. Pop that shit
[46:39] Speaker 3: for the OG, bro. Think about this.
[46:45] Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas and those guys were beating the Bulls for years.
[46:48] Speaker 5: Whenever you see the old games, you only see the
[46:51] Speaker 5: game where Jordan and them put them out.
[46:52] Speaker 3: Yes.
[46:53] Speaker 2: Right here.
[46:53] Speaker 4: What, I got something on there?
[46:55] Speaker 2: There's a lot of IT.
[46:58] Speaker 3: Huh?
[46:59] Speaker 2: A lot of.
[46:59] Speaker 3: A lot of what?
[47:01] Speaker 5: A lot, sir. I might have had some spit. I
[47:04] Speaker 5: might have had some spit.
[47:05] Speaker 3: You didn't have nothing there.
[47:08] Speaker 2: He just said you were slobbing.
[47:09] Speaker 3: I might have had.
[47:09] Speaker 1: Because I was getting worked up.
[47:13] Speaker 2: You was going over the mound.
[47:16] Speaker 3: We got the point. You knocked me off my pivot.
[47:19] Speaker 5: I was rolling too.
[47:20] Speaker 4: I forgot what I was about to say. When you
[47:23] Speaker 4: go further down, pause with Jalen Brunson. Because we look
[47:28] Speaker 4: back this year, in my mind, mentally, I thought the
[47:31] Speaker 4: teams that were going to be the two best teams
[47:33] Speaker 4: were arguably OKC, even without Jalen Williams. And to beat
[47:37] Speaker 4: a Spurs team that won 62 games. They were loaded
[47:42] Speaker 4: from one through nine. They had the sixth man of
[47:44] Speaker 4: the year, defensive player of the year, arguably the MVP,
[47:47] Speaker 4: one of the best rookies, all this on a third.
[47:51] Speaker 4: And it was like, yo, they were the team to beat.
[47:54] Speaker 4: And I feel as though Jalen Brunson kind of took
[47:55] Speaker 4: a group of not the best starting five. We realized
[47:59] Speaker 4: how great they were when he carried them across. Because
[48:02] Speaker 4: no matter what, when you sit there, it's like, bro,
[48:05] Speaker 4: Wimpy and them won 60 games out of 22 games.
[48:08] Speaker 2: They were taking out OKC. They beat four out of five.
[48:11] Speaker 4: The team that should have repeated, they beat them four
[48:13] Speaker 4: out of five times when OKC took them out. And
[48:16] Speaker 4: then Jalen Brunson carried him in the game to that
[48:18] Speaker 4: type of hurdle.
[48:19] Speaker 3: What was so funny is if Spurs would have held
[48:22] Speaker 3: on to those leads. Yeah.
[48:24] Speaker 2: Nobody would have been surprised.
[48:26] Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they're not that talented. They do got
[48:31] Speaker 3: two people.
[48:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:33] Speaker 3: And then they got one in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Right?
[48:36] Speaker 3: But that fourth quarter is what was important because the
[48:41] Speaker 3: other team didn't have that.
[48:42] Speaker 2: And that 45-point close.
[48:44] Speaker 3: They didn't have the experience.
[48:45] Speaker 2: And that 45-point close. OKC had the experience.
[48:50] Speaker 3: They just had their number. Some teams got that, though.
[48:54] Speaker 3: What was the difference, though? I'll tell you the difference.
[48:56] Speaker 5: The Spurs just had their number.
[48:59] Speaker 3: It was that cat.
[49:01] Speaker 2: Cat was the difference. Nah.
[49:03] Speaker 5: You talking about the difference while OKC lost? I think
[49:07] Speaker 5: OKC would have still won that series if J-Dub and...
[49:13] Speaker 5: AJ Mitchell was hurt, too. When you really look at
[49:16] Speaker 5: what they were doing, they were shrinking the court. They
[49:18] Speaker 5: were throwing the kitchen sink at Shea. And they were like, yo,
[49:22] Speaker 5: throw it to the corner. We ain't scared of these dudes. Now,
[49:25] Speaker 5: if you got J-Dub and A.J. Mitchell, that's a different
[49:28] Speaker 5: ball game. Did y'all see what Shea was doing in
[49:29] Speaker 5: game seven?
[49:30] Speaker 4: Right.
[49:31] Speaker 5: Man, listen, I respect him even more. Even though they lost,
[49:33] Speaker 5: I was like, game seven, he was out there dolo, killing.
[49:35] Speaker 2: He was shooting everything. And he was hitting everything, too.
[49:37] Speaker 2: Did he struggle? Did he struggle during that series?
[49:41] Speaker 3: Kat was the difference.
[49:43] Speaker 4: Bridges was killing. He was the difference as well. He
[49:45] Speaker 4: wasn't missing. Bridges was on fire, what, game two through four.
[49:49] Speaker 4: He damn near played perfect on some van free. I
[49:50] Speaker 4: don't even think Kat scored in the fourth quarter of
[49:52] Speaker 4: the finals.
[49:52] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[49:53] Speaker 3: Kat, that's the thing. Kat scored in the first three quarters.
[49:56] Speaker 4: Yes, he did.
[49:58] Speaker 3: And then Brunson in the fourth. Now, why OKC didn't
[50:02] Speaker 3: win is because there was someone who got ghosted out
[50:06] Speaker 3: of the series. As soon as he's seen fringing, whoo-la-la!
[50:10] Speaker 2: First team, all NBA, third team.
[50:12] Speaker 3: I'm out of here.
[50:14] Speaker 2: First team, all defense, third type. You know what I mean?
[50:16] Speaker 3: And that's literally what happened. When you watch the game,
[50:20] Speaker 3: you're sitting here like, yo, what's going on? Did this man.
[50:25] Speaker 2: What would he say?
[50:26] Speaker 3: Whoo-la-la! Like it was like there was no way it
[50:34] Speaker 3: was no way your second option gets taken out of
[50:38] Speaker 3: the game. Like I've seen them didn't want to shoot three.
[50:41] Speaker 3: Like we we've been in games where we see our
[50:45] Speaker 3: player gets ghosted. Like he just don't have it tonight.
[50:49] Speaker 3: Someone has this number. And for some reason, check checked out.
[50:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, he only shot four shots at last, the game cycle.
[50:57] Speaker 3: And that was the difference here, that the second option
[51:00] Speaker 3: did his job when it needed.
[51:02] Speaker 4: How much was the average in that final? In the finals?
[51:05] Speaker 3: Y'all remember, they were saying Brunson was playing horrible. They
[51:08] Speaker 3: showed the shooting percentage.
[51:10] Speaker 2: He was playing horrible, bro. They had a rough series.
[51:13] Speaker 3: They had a rough series. No, I'm just saying, Brunson's
[51:16] Speaker 3: fourth quarter was 90%.
[51:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, them numbers was nasty, bro. And again, that closeout
[51:22] Speaker 2: game was 45 points, which was.
[51:24] Speaker 4: His percentage went up like the last three games of
[51:27] Speaker 4: the series, I believe.
[51:28] Speaker 3: No, his fourth quarter, like the first three quarters, the
[51:31] Speaker 3: fourth quarter, he was shooting about 77%. In the fourth quarter?
[51:34] Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter. Brunson.
[51:36] Speaker 4: Oh, no, facts.
[51:37] Speaker 2: That fourth quarter, there's like.
[51:39] Speaker 4: I'm saying the games that they lost.
[51:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[51:41] Speaker 4: Compared them to.
[51:42] Speaker 1: But Brunson, 33, five assists, four rebounds. But the shooting
[51:46] Speaker 1: percentage went up in games four, five, six. That's what
[51:48] Speaker 1: I just said. The last three games of the.
[51:50] Speaker 4: Series, the percentage just went up.
[51:53] Speaker 3: Come on, bro. Stop playing with me.
[51:56] Speaker 2: If he was a little cooler, he'd be Steph Curry
[51:58] Speaker 2: right now. Who? Brunson.
[52:00] Speaker 6: If he had like a little aura to him and
[52:03] Speaker 6: was like, I don't talk to him.
[52:04] Speaker 3: You know what it is? He's funny.
[52:05] Speaker 2: He's funny.
[52:08] Speaker 3: He got wide hips.
[52:10] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[52:11] Speaker 3: If he was, like, a little cooler, like... He not neat.
[52:14] Speaker 3: He'll be like that. His hair thin and, like... Yeah, bro.
[52:18] Speaker 2: So, let's hit Brunson real quick before we move on.
[52:21] Speaker 3: He look like his dad.
[52:23] Speaker 2: You don't have the most outgoing personality.
[52:25] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[52:25] Speaker 2: But he does, though. He do, though.
[52:27] Speaker 3: He can hoop his ass off. When you send me
[52:29] Speaker 3: interviews with Josh Hart.
[52:32] Speaker 2: They got their roommate show on Playmaker. Shout out to Playmaker.
[52:34] Speaker 4: He just.
[52:36] Speaker 5: The celebrities he hang out with.
[52:39] Speaker 3: It's just like on the court.
[52:40] Speaker 2: It's business on the court. But here's my question for you.
[52:43] Speaker 1: You've been very adamant that you don't think Jalen Brunson
[52:45] Speaker 1: will become a megastar, but he's hosting the season premiere
[52:47] Speaker 1: of Saturday Night Live.
[52:48] Speaker 3: And that's what you're supposed to do.
[52:51] Speaker 1: Is he on that path and trajectory now becoming a megastar?
[52:55] Speaker 4: Do you understand what I'm saying? It's a holiday. Even
[52:58] Speaker 4: if he was cool or not, we just made, I mean,
[53:00] Speaker 4: when Sandy was lit, we made Eli look like one
[53:03] Speaker 4: of the greatest quarterbacks ever. We played two good games
[53:06] Speaker 4: in 15.
[53:06] Speaker 3: He's like Eli. But that's, but okay, so like, when
[53:09] Speaker 3: you think about like, like, he don't need to be
[53:13] Speaker 3: like this, but you can see what moves the needle
[53:15] Speaker 3: when you're talking about being famous.
[53:17] Speaker 4: Well, Josh Hart's even famous now.
[53:19] Speaker 2: Odell Beckham, right? When he was in New York, right?
[53:22] Speaker 2: Still in New York, yeah.
[53:23] Speaker 3: Nah, I mean, when he was, he grabs the attention.
[53:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[53:27] Speaker 3: With Brunson, you being in New York, but you're, because
[53:30] Speaker 3: you're Cold Stone killer, You need to do things to
[53:34] Speaker 3: get you out there. Because your personality, you're not going
[53:37] Speaker 3: to be doing things that's going to keep you on
[53:38] Speaker 3: the radar.
[53:39] Speaker 2: So you got to go.
[53:40] Speaker 4: I think his personality worked for New York, though, honestly.
[53:42] Speaker 3: It do, but when you're talking global, when you're talking global,
[53:46] Speaker 3: there's just little things you have to do.
[53:48] Speaker 4: I don't think you need global when you're the king
[53:49] Speaker 4: of New York. He could be like Eli Manning now.
[53:52] Speaker 4: I don't think you need global. New York going to
[53:54] Speaker 4: take care of him forever.
[53:56] Speaker 2: But he wasn't on TV.
[53:57] Speaker 4: Stop that, man.
[53:57] Speaker 2: Stop that. I'm just saying.
[54:01] Speaker 4: But he's doing Saturday Night Live?
[54:04] Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live.
[54:06] Speaker 1: See?
[54:06] Speaker 3: My marketing would be, hey, we need to capitalize, you know,
[54:09] Speaker 3: get you on out there, you know.
[54:10] Speaker 2: So do you think he has the potential to become
[54:12] Speaker 2: a mega star? You know, tell him, hey, see, there's
[54:13] Speaker 2: a shoe coming.
[54:14] Speaker 5: But if you really think about it, let's look at
[54:15] Speaker 5: the top guys in the league. The guys that we
[54:18] Speaker 5: think are the next up, though none of them have
[54:19] Speaker 5: a big personality. Shea don't have a big personality. Brunson
[54:22] Speaker 5: don't have a big personality. Wimby don't have a big personality.
[54:24] Speaker 3: That's why it's Anthony's.
[54:25] Speaker 2: That's why it's Anthony's lead.
[54:26] Speaker 4: Ah.
[54:27] Speaker 1: Shit.
[54:28] Speaker 3: Hold on. Hold on.
[54:30] Speaker 1: Shit.
[54:30] Speaker 3: You saw the commercial that you dropped today?
[54:32] Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it later in the show.
[54:33] Speaker 2: Boogie. We're going to hit it. Boogie. No, I think
[54:36] Speaker 2: Ant's cold.
[54:37] Speaker 5: But you know, Ant will go a little farther than
[54:40] Speaker 5: what they want him to do for the face.
[54:42] Speaker 3: It's familiar to me.
[54:43] Speaker 5: I know it.
[54:44] Speaker 2: Okay.
[54:46] Speaker 3: Let's put it out there.
[54:48] Speaker 5: When we think of the face of the league, you know,
[54:49] Speaker 5: Ant will sometimes go a little bit farther than the
[54:51] Speaker 5: press conference.
[54:51] Speaker 2: It's familiar to me, man.
[54:52] Speaker 5: I know it's familiar to you, but... Does the face
[54:55] Speaker 5: of the league really always speak in that realm?
[54:59] Speaker 3: Yes. Can we talk about the.
[55:02] Speaker 2: Faces of the league?
[55:04] Speaker 5: Did LeBron not do it?
[55:07] Speaker 4: Magic was having interviews in the backyard talking about how
[55:10] Speaker 4: many bodies he took down.
[55:11] Speaker 2: What are we talking about?
[55:12] Speaker 3: It's just the look that a woman gives you. If
[55:15] Speaker 3: you look through history, there is two type of Face
[55:17] Speaker 3: is like, you can get away. I don't know about.
[55:22] Speaker 2: It wasn't the face. I don't want Shea to be
[55:24] Speaker 2: the face.
[55:24] Speaker 3: The face of the NBA is what the NBA is pushing.
[55:27] Speaker 2: Right? So, as of right now, who runs the league? Nike.
[55:32] Speaker 3: What did Nike just tell you?
[55:34] Speaker 4: Well, they actually did need Shea.
[55:35] Speaker 3: What did Nike just tell you who is going to
[55:38] Speaker 3: be the face they're going to put?
[55:39] Speaker 2: Wimby. Wimby.
[55:41] Speaker 3: Shea.
[55:41] Speaker 4: Shea.
[55:42] Speaker 2: They took Converse. They took Converse. They took Converse. They
[55:45] Speaker 2: do own Converse. Remember, he's Converse. Remember, he's Converse.
[55:50] Speaker 3: Oh, he is? Yes.
[55:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:52] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're right there. They said, take them off.
[55:56] Speaker 2: I mean, them sales fucked up.
[55:57] Speaker 4: Take them off, we're going to pull.
[55:59] Speaker 2: 80% down.
[56:00] Speaker 3: So they went for Kate because they're a money person.
[56:02] Speaker 2: Hold on, Shay's on Nike now?
[56:03] Speaker 1: Yes.
[56:03] Speaker 2: They upgraded him. Nike owns Converse. Nike grabbed Converse.
[56:07] Speaker 4: They just took him from Converse.
[56:09] Speaker 2: And they're going to give him all Jai's shoes. All
[56:12] Speaker 2: of them.
[56:12] Speaker 3: Oh, because Jai got the best shoes. But that's still
[56:15] Speaker 3: a dark horse right there.
[56:16] Speaker 2: Jai is the one helping Nike right now. Jai still got.
[56:18] Speaker 3: The best shoes. Jai's got the highest shit selling in Nike.
[56:21] Speaker 2: He got the best shoes.
[56:22] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[56:23] Speaker 2: That's why they sent this out to Portland. We got
[56:25] Speaker 2: the best.
[56:25] Speaker 3: Come here. That was the face that Nike was looking
[56:28] Speaker 3: for because.
[56:30] Speaker 2: He has the aura.
[56:31] Speaker 4: He's a new Iverson.
[56:32] Speaker 3: He was the aura that you just can't make. But
[56:35] Speaker 3: because he got in trouble, they're like, ah.
[56:37] Speaker 4: That man ain't even getting in trouble.
[56:38] Speaker 3: Because he's so young, he can probably have. But right now,
[56:42] Speaker 3: it looks like it's going to be.
[56:43] Speaker 4: That's getting in trouble.
[56:45] Speaker 2: Wow. That's getting in trouble. And you have Wimby.
[56:50] Speaker 3: But they know they can't move many units with Wimby
[56:53] Speaker 3: because big men don't really sell like that. But he
[56:56] Speaker 3: has the professionalism. He can talk. He has different language.
[56:59] Speaker 2: He started getting niggerish. Oh, man.
[57:03] Speaker 4: He did.
[57:03] Speaker 2: Like, during the playoffs, he started getting a little out
[57:05] Speaker 2: of bounds.
[57:06] Speaker 4: Who that?
[57:06] Speaker 3: Wendy. Wendy. Muffin. I fuck with it.
[57:09] Speaker 2: I fuck with it. I fuck with it, bro.
[57:11] Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, they don't like this over here.
[57:14] Speaker 3: I think shit's sweet in France, man. Y'all know this
[57:18] Speaker 3: shit ain't sweet in France.
[57:19] Speaker 4: I like that, too, but he wasn't with me.
[57:20] Speaker 3: Shit ain't sweet. Ooh, la, la, my ass.
[57:22] Speaker 2: I was talking crazy. I'm like, bro, like, they don't
[57:25] Speaker 2: like all that now. Like, that was crazy. Shay is
[57:29] Speaker 2: the perfect.
[57:30] Speaker 5: I didn't realize Shay had switched over to Nike. That's
[57:34] Speaker 5: going to be huge. Because we bringing up the Jaws.
[57:37] Speaker 5: Jaw hasn't had one of them seasons in years. But, man,
[57:40] Speaker 5: you go to the AAU tournaments, that's all you see. Or, like,
[57:43] Speaker 5: you think about Kyrie's shoe before he switched over to.
[57:46] Speaker 4: The new brand.
[57:47] Speaker 2: They fucked up with that? Bro, exactly, but.
[57:49] Speaker 5: Kyrie he had been hurt didn't matter you went to
[57:51] Speaker 5: everybody was which so now we gonna have a play
[57:55] Speaker 5: that's what that's obviously one of the top five and
[57:58] Speaker 5: Everybody gonna be rocking the shoe.
[58:00] Speaker 3: He got he got the mannerisms.
[58:02] Speaker 2: He talks he's married, right?
[58:04] Speaker 3: He's a family man What.
[58:08] Speaker 5: Did he do this summer you wanna you want what
[58:10] Speaker 5: did he do this song cut the brain cut the
[58:12] Speaker 5: brain I What the.
[58:13] Speaker 2: Fuck y'all talking about?
[58:14] Speaker 3: I told y'all to do it. Cut the break.
[58:16] Speaker 5: Oh, I'll do that, bro. They don't want it?
[58:21] Speaker 3: I'll take it, goddammit. I know this comes with billions of.
[58:26] Speaker 2: You might be on the show. You might be on
[58:28] Speaker 2: the show. I'm telling you right now.
[58:29] Speaker 3: I didn't realize that he.
[58:30] Speaker 5: OKC.
[58:30] Speaker 2: If y'all don't win this shit, if y'all don't win.
[58:32] Speaker 3: This shit, that boy's gone. OKC don't win and be winners.
[58:48] Speaker 3: Nike is moving that man. And I've always said this.
[58:53] Speaker 3: When you're in a small city and Nike stamps your
[58:57] Speaker 3: player as a signature guy because there's only six to
[59:00] Speaker 3: seven of them.
[59:01] Speaker 2: There's only... Does Paul George still have his?
[59:06] Speaker 3: But there's only six to seven of them. Detroit did
[59:09] Speaker 3: one last year. Boom, boom.
[59:10] Speaker 2: He's on his way up. Right? And I can tell
[59:11] Speaker 2: you this.
[59:12] Speaker 3: Every signature they've put has went to a big market
[59:16] Speaker 3: or a second-tier market.
[59:18] Speaker 2: Guaranteed. It's about money. It's bigger than me. Mm-hmm.
[59:22] Speaker 3: They're going to put their players.
[59:24] Speaker 2: So I think Shea would be the seventh now. Bronson?
[59:27] Speaker 2: This shit would sell.
[59:28] Speaker 4: Bro, but Bronson's kind of on a level with Steph.
[59:30] Speaker 2: Shout out to Steph.
[59:31] Speaker 4: But, like, sometimes the streets just don't like the dudes
[59:34] Speaker 4: that do it right. Like, you know what I mean? Like...
[59:36] Speaker 4: That's just the truth. Like, Steph should be the biggest
[59:38] Speaker 4: dude on Earth, and it's just like... He was under
[59:40] Speaker 4: Under Armour.
[59:42] Speaker 2: No, but he's Steph Curry.
[59:44] Speaker 3: Them shits was weak as fuck.
[59:46] Speaker 6: They didn't do a good job.
[59:50] Speaker 3: Like, he did good for... He did great. Like, he
[59:52] Speaker 3: had people buying that bullshit.
[59:54] Speaker 2: He was about to change, about to go to Nike.
[59:57] Speaker 2: Remember this year?
[59:59] Speaker 3: What? Please go to Nike, Steph.
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: But he had kids rocking Under Armour. Like, I'm about
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: to do it. I'm about to do it. I'm about
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: to do it. That in itself is Hall.
[1:00:08] Speaker 5: Of Fame worthy.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: Bro, the best ones is the Caitlyn Clarks, man, when
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: them bad boys drop.
[1:00:14] Speaker 4: Caitlyn's and Sabrina's. Caitlyn's colorways. They actually got some dope shit.
[1:00:18] Speaker 4: Like Sabrina's and Ja. That is AAU. Josh, so we
[1:00:27] Speaker 4: ain't fucking with the Angel Reefs, the Reeboks.
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: I fuck with the Reeboks, too.
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: I'm from that South, bro. We was rocking Reebok classics back.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: In the day. I believe that.
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