# The BIG Trades Of The NBA Offseason SHAKE UP Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 24 Jun 2025, 2 h 32 min.

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Gil's Arena Reacts To The 1st BIG MOVE Of The NBA Offseason as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Boston Celtics tearing down their championship core and sending Jrue Holiday to the Portland Trailblazers in exchange for Anfernee Simons and 2nd Round Picks. They break down what this trade means for Boston as they know have to navigate next season without 2 key pieces on their roster in Holiday & Jayson Tatum and debate if the C's are still a threat in the NBA's Eastern Conference. They also break down Jrue's role on a young Portland Trailblazers squad and discuss if he's enough to turn the team into a contender this season. Next, they welcome Super Bowl Champion and host of FS1's Speak Keyshawn Johnson into the Arena where he gives his take on the breaking news that this will be Aaron Rodgers' final NFL season as the vet prepares to quarterback the Pittsburgh Steelers this season and gives an inside look at his legendary NFL Draft Party in 1996. He also takes us through Paul Pierce walking to 20 miles to work following the Boston Celtics' loss in the NBA Playoffs before breaking down his thoughts on the sale of the Los Angeles Lakers and what that means for Luka Doncic & LeBron James heading into next year. They then react to the OKC Thunder's championship parade and discuss how the small market finals overcame the narrative as Game 7 produced the most watched NBA Finals Game in 6 years. Next they react to Tyrese Haliburton's emotional reaction to his season ending Achilles tear and debate what's next for the Indiana Pacers before giving a post-mortem for the Phoenix Suns following the Kevin Durant trade and discussing the next move for Devin Booker in Phoenix. Finally, Gil reacts to Eddie Johnson & Draymond Green coming at him for his take on ring culture on First Take and offers a hostile response to both legendary hoopers. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings, Swaggy P & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA. Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord 0:00:00 2 Min Timer 0:01:56 Show Start 0:05:40 Keyshawn Johnson's New LA Legends Podcast 0:12:35 Keyshawn's Star Studded Draft Party 0:20:15 How Keyshawn Celebrated The Super Bowl 0:25:56 Aaron Rodgers Teases Retirement 0:28:49 Keyshawn On Paul Pierce Walking to Work 0:32:20 Keyshawn Previews Next Season For The Lakers 0:50:37 Gil Brings OKC's Parade Into The Arena 1:15:00 Jordan Poole Traded To New Orleans 1:24:28 The Small Market Finals DESTROYS TV Ratings 1:35:31 Haliburton's Emotional Response To His Injury 1:46:59 Why Players Keep Tearing Their Achilles 2:06:55 Should Hali Regret Playing In Game 6 & 7? 2:17:09 Reacting To The Jrue Holiday Trade 2:23:51 Rashad Calls Out Gil's Kobe Hate 2:26:57 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa!
[0:07] Speaker 3: As you can see, we got the decorations here. We
[0:09] Speaker 3: got our own Thunders Championship Parade. Gil nowhere to be
[0:12] Speaker 3: found in his own house. Still looking for Gil. Got
[0:17] Speaker 3: a little too turnt up celebrating the championship of his
[0:21] Speaker 3: new favorite team.
[0:21] Speaker 4: Million dollar question. I just asked right before you sat down. So,
[0:25] Speaker 4: we all want to know.
[0:26] Speaker 1: We figured out. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:29] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.
[0:30] Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa.
[0:31] Speaker 3: Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B,
[0:33] Speaker 3: Brandon Jennings in the building. On this side of the couch,
[0:38] Speaker 3: we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number
[0:41] Speaker 3: one pick, Kenyon Martin, back on the couch with us.
[0:47] Speaker 3: And making his return to the arena, the man they
[0:49] Speaker 3: call Money Making Sonny, NCAA Champion of the World, Rashad McCants.
[0:54] Speaker 5: You got the bag.
[0:57] Speaker 3: We're going to find out what's in the bag very,
[0:59] Speaker 3: very soon. And we got a special guest making his
[1:02] Speaker 3: first appearance in the arena. He was the number one
[1:04] Speaker 3: pick in the 1996 NFL draft by the New York Jets,
[1:07] Speaker 3: played 11 seasons in the NFL, where he made three
[1:10] Speaker 3: Pro Bowls, won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay
[1:13] Speaker 3: Bucks in the 2002 NFL season, had a very long
[1:16] Speaker 3: prestigious media career after retiring from football.
[1:19] Speaker 1: You can now catch him.
[1:21] Speaker 3: Co-hosting Speak on FS1 weekdays at 5 p.m. Eastern from
[1:26] Speaker 3: Dorsey High School to USC and everywhere else. This man
[1:29] Speaker 3: truly puts on for the city of Los Angeles.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Keyshawn Johnson.
[1:32] Speaker 1: Welcome to Guild Arena.
[1:37] Speaker 5: It should be fun. Okay.
[1:39] Speaker 1: Shout out, Dorsey. Yeah.
[1:40] Speaker 5: DDP.
[1:42] Speaker 2: For life.
[1:43] Speaker 1: My whole family went to Crenshaw. It's all good, though.
[1:45] Speaker 6: We had a running clock against them.
[1:47] Speaker 1: Well, football. Basketball a little different.
[1:50] Speaker 5: Yeah, hoops was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:52] Speaker 1: We beat them once, but the hoops was different. Shout out,
[1:54] Speaker 1: Coach West. Let's get this game over with, huh?
[1:56] Speaker 5: And the rest of the crew.
[1:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, football, let's get it over with. No halftime.
[2:01] Speaker 7: No, yeah, we're running the clock.
[2:05] Speaker 6: Second half, refs come in and say, I think we're
[2:07] Speaker 6: going to run the clock the second half.
[2:09] Speaker 1: Get it over with.
[2:11] Speaker 3: For all the fans out there, we've still got two
[2:12] Speaker 3: viewing options for you, our traditional version, mobile, vertical version.
[2:15] Speaker 3: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[2:16] Speaker 3: you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Halle had a strong message in his first public comment
[2:23] Speaker 1: since suffering a torn Achilles. Will the Pacers do right
[2:26] Speaker 1: by Halle in the aftermath of his injury? We hope so.
[2:30] Speaker 3: Luka, reportedly on a strict diet and training regimen in
[2:34] Speaker 3: preparation for his first full season with the Lakers. How
[2:36] Speaker 3: realistic are the Purple and Gold's championship aspirations in 2026?
[2:40] Speaker 3: Said that man's eating good out of Slovenia, not eating
[2:42] Speaker 3: no American food. We got to look ahead to 2026.
[2:46] Speaker 3: We got a Lakers fan in the building. We got
[2:48] Speaker 3: to pay him his respect.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Fuck, the season just ended. We got company here. We
[2:54] Speaker 1: got company.
[2:55] Speaker 5: Give it a break.
[2:57] Speaker 1: He a Lakers fan.
[2:58] Speaker 5: He represents for LA.
[3:00] Speaker 1: The Lakers are in Los Angeles.
[3:02] Speaker 5: Let them dudes have their parade.
[3:03] Speaker 2: It's over now.
[3:04] Speaker 5: It's over.
[3:05] Speaker 1: It's over. and in a mood to reduce their luxury
[3:11] Speaker 1: tax bill, the Celtics ship Drew Holiday back to the
[3:14] Speaker 1: Blazers for Ann Simonson. Did Boston fleece Portland in the deal?
[3:20] Speaker 3: But before we get into all that, as always, the
[3:21] Speaker 3: show is brought to you by Underdog. If you want
[3:23] Speaker 3: to get your bread up, go ahead and download the
[3:24] Speaker 3: Underdog app, use promo code GIL, get up to $ 1, 000
[3:26] Speaker 3: in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em, and if you
[3:28] Speaker 3: can't watch the show live, we have audio versions available
[3:31] Speaker 3: on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So, Keyshawn,
[3:34] Speaker 3: appreciate you being in the building, taking time out of
[3:37] Speaker 3: your schedule. So first and foremost, for y'all, man. OK,
[3:41] Speaker 3: so I know you've been working on a special project
[3:42] Speaker 3: this summer, which also includes our very own Mr. B.
[3:45] Speaker 1: So we definitely want to hear more about that. So
[3:47] Speaker 1: what you got cooking up this summer?
[3:48] Speaker 6: So, you know, I got a podcast as well through
[3:51] Speaker 6: FS1 and Fox on the digital side. And because football
[3:56] Speaker 6: season is pretty much over with, I mean, it was
[3:58] Speaker 6: over with and doesn't start, obviously, till September. So we
[4:02] Speaker 6: came up with an idea. My producer came up with
[4:05] Speaker 6: an idea and she said, you know, we should do
[4:07] Speaker 6: something real different than all the other podcasts that's out there.
[4:11] Speaker 6: Because you from L.A., you know, the streets of L.A.,
[4:15] Speaker 6: you know, athletes, entertainers, you pretty much know every damn
[4:18] Speaker 6: body in L.A. And so we put this together with
[4:22] Speaker 6: the L.A.
[4:22] Speaker 5: Legends.
[4:23] Speaker 6: So anybody and everybody that I've come into contact with
[4:25] Speaker 6: throughout my life that has moved on to bigger and
[4:28] Speaker 6: better things in the L.A. area, we call it L.A.
[4:31] Speaker 1: Legends.
[4:32] Speaker 6: So as you say, Mr. B is in an episode.
[4:35] Speaker 1: OK.
[4:36] Speaker 5: L.A.
[4:36] Speaker 1: Legend.
[4:37] Speaker 5: Yeah. L.A.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Legend.
[4:38] Speaker 6: Obviously, as Paul Pierce and Baron Davis, Deshaun Jackson and
[4:41] Speaker 6: Cheryl Miller and. NWA the whole entire group of NWA
[4:48] Speaker 6: Ice Cube all of them and then some more people
[4:52] Speaker 6: along that's going to come along the way Candice Parker's
[4:55] Speaker 6: in it gosh I know I'm missing some people but
[4:58] Speaker 6: that's what it's about and It's about 10 different episodes
[5:02] Speaker 6: that we're going to drop on the 30th. The first
[5:05] Speaker 6: episode drops on the 30th. And I believe that episode
[5:09] Speaker 6: is going to be Paul Pierce, Baron, Deshaun, and myself.
[5:14] Speaker 6: And then from there, I don't know what the second
[5:15] Speaker 6: and the third are going to roll it out. But
[5:17] Speaker 6: it's really just about the careers and where everybody's at
[5:21] Speaker 6: in their careers and what they did on the court,
[5:23] Speaker 6: on the field, off the court, off the field, that
[5:26] Speaker 6: sort of family life. Just really chopping it up. Something
[5:29] Speaker 6: way different Then what we see normally in the in
[5:32] Speaker 6: the podcast space where it's just really one on one,
[5:35] Speaker 6: mano a mano conversations and stuff like that. We just
[5:38] Speaker 6: taking it around the city. And then another one where
[5:41] Speaker 6: it was me, Trevor Reza and Denny Green joined us
[5:48] Speaker 6: at the Maximum State Prison. So I went up to
[5:51] Speaker 6: Lancaster State Prison and was on the grounds with the.
[5:56] Speaker 6: Triple life's, you know, having conversations with them about the
[5:59] Speaker 6: do's and the don'ts and the what ifs, so to speak.
[6:02] Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy, man.
[6:04] Speaker 6: I'm walking through. I'll just give you a little snippet
[6:06] Speaker 6: of it. I'm walking through after, you know, we go
[6:08] Speaker 6: through and we're going through the little hallway in the chapel.
[6:11] Speaker 6: And I see a dude, but I didn't really recognize him. No,
[6:15] Speaker 6: but I, you know, he kept saying my name, but
[6:17] Speaker 6: I didn't recognize him at all. He had a full
[6:19] Speaker 6: gray beard on and everything. And it's a glass wall.
[6:22] Speaker 6: And as I got down the hallway, the door was open.
[6:25] Speaker 6: So I stuck my head in the door and he
[6:27] Speaker 6: was in there playing the instruments. And he was like, Mike, Mike.
[6:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike.
[6:34] Speaker 5: Yeah. OK.
[6:36] Speaker 6: And he said, your flower, dude.
[6:38] Speaker 2: And I looked closer.
[6:41] Speaker 6: He said, yeah, Mike, I'm your florist, man. I used to.
[6:45] Speaker 6: I said, oh, shit. Man, I broke down in tears
[6:48] Speaker 6: and everything because he's an older dude. I hadn't seen him. Man,
[6:52] Speaker 6: I hadn't seen him since my restaurant, since I got
[6:54] Speaker 6: rid of my restaurant because he covered my restaurant, my house,
[6:57] Speaker 6: my office spaces.
[6:59] Speaker 1: He did all that for me.
[7:00] Speaker 6: You know, you lose sight of somebody. They go away.
[7:03] Speaker 1: He doesn't went to jail.
[7:04] Speaker 5: You know, he got life.
[7:05] Speaker 2: So now I'm walking around.
[7:08] Speaker 6: From there, I thought I chopped it up with him
[7:10] Speaker 6: and everything. And now we on the yard.
[7:12] Speaker 2: But I don't see about four or five people that
[7:15] Speaker 2: I know.
[7:16] Speaker 6: Everybody in there got life that I know that I
[7:18] Speaker 6: went to Dorsey with.
[7:19] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[7:21] Speaker 6: And I grew up in the streets with even from
[7:23] Speaker 6: my childhood days, as I like to call it, my
[7:25] Speaker 6: little crimey. One of my little crimeys, he got double life.
[7:28] Speaker 1: No, he got triple life, actually, because they they.
[7:31] Speaker 6: He, him and a couple of his crimeys, don't ask
[7:34] Speaker 6: me why they tried to rob a furniture store, but
[7:36] Speaker 6: they tried to rob a furniture store and they knocked down,
[7:40] Speaker 6: the dude knocked down his two partners that was with him.
[7:43] Speaker 6: So he knocked down the dude. And so he got
[7:45] Speaker 6: charged for all three. So it was just those, you know,
[7:48] Speaker 6: it was crazy. It was, it was, man, it was,
[7:51] Speaker 6: and they all young dudes too, you know, young. Yeah,
[7:54] Speaker 6: it was young. And so, you know, it's just about
[7:56] Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. Just trying to give back to
[7:58] Speaker 6: the community in which I was brought up in.
[8:00] Speaker 5: Okay.
[8:01] Speaker 1: Now, will we look forward? Oh, no, it's going to
[8:04] Speaker 1: be fun, though.
[8:05] Speaker 6: It's going to be exciting.
[8:06] Speaker 1: You had a good time on there, Mr. B?
[8:07] Speaker 5: I had a great time. I had a great surprise, too. Uh-oh.
[8:10] Speaker 7: We're going to be on the lookout for that. You
[8:12] Speaker 7: said it's dropping on the 30th? Yeah, the 30th is
[8:14] Speaker 7: the first episode. I had to get him because, you know,
[8:19] Speaker 7: he left hand the whole thing.
[8:20] Speaker 1: You know, he had it.
[8:22] Speaker 6: From way back when.
[8:23] Speaker 3: I'm going to say best point guard to come out
[8:25] Speaker 3: of Los Angeles. I think Baron Davis might disagree, but
[8:27] Speaker 3: I'll leave that up to them to.
[8:28] Speaker 5: Get those discussions going.
[8:29] Speaker 6: See, you know what's so funny about Baron Davis? And
[8:32] Speaker 6: I talked to BD. I've been knowing BD since BD
[8:34] Speaker 6: was a little chubby. And I went to watch him
[8:37] Speaker 6: play in the Martin Luther King tournament at Pauley Pavilion.
[8:41] Speaker 6: And I'm sitting courtside. And he's playing, and the college
[8:46] Speaker 6: twins was playing the whole deal. So I'm with my
[8:49] Speaker 6: sports agent that was an NBA agent and an NFL agent.
[8:51] Speaker 6: And Barron at this time, man, Barron might have been 5'11, whatever. 5'11,
[8:56] Speaker 6: looked like he was 250 pounds or something.
[8:59] Speaker 5: And my agent, no, I told me. My agent kept
[9:02] Speaker 5: telling me he was stocky.
[9:03] Speaker 6: My agent kept saying, he's going to be the number
[9:05] Speaker 6: one pick, Keyshawn.
[9:06] Speaker 2: I said, ain't no fucking way.
[9:09] Speaker 6: And my agent knew, I mean, he represented basketball players
[9:11] Speaker 6: and stuff. He kept saying, man, the dude, that's why
[9:13] Speaker 6: I'm here. You know, you're going to be the number
[9:15] Speaker 6: one pick. But Barron was only a junior at the time.
[9:18] Speaker 5: I was like, ain't no way in the world.
[9:19] Speaker 6: A dude barely 5'7, you know. That just goes to
[9:25] Speaker 6: show you how much basketball I do. You know, but
[9:28] Speaker 6: it was crazy watching him play in high school and
[9:30] Speaker 6: then obviously throughout his pro career.
[9:32] Speaker 3: Went on to UCLA, the best university in Los Angeles,
[9:35] Speaker 3: before going to the league.
[9:36] Speaker 6: No, we're not going to do that.
[9:37] Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding. You know, we're not going to
[9:39] Speaker 1: do that. This is not what we're going to do.
[9:41] Speaker 1: Just making sure you're paying attention. No, we're not going
[9:42] Speaker 1: to do that. Just making sure you're paying attention.
[9:44] Speaker 6: You know, more UCLA people work for USC people than
[9:47] Speaker 6: the state of California.
[9:47] Speaker 5: Did you know that?
[9:48] Speaker 1: Google it.
[9:49] Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't believe it. No, thank you.
[9:53] Speaker 1: But it's still a great university.
[9:55] Speaker 6: My niece graduated from there, so it's still a great university.
[9:57] Speaker 1: No more public school in the world.
[9:58] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[10:01] Speaker 1: Let's shift it over. One more thing. One more fact.
[10:05] Speaker 6: You know, one more fact. You know, in that area,
[10:08] Speaker 6: it's more crime at UCLA than it is at USC.
[10:11] Speaker 6: USC is in South Los Angeles.
[10:13] Speaker 5: That's crazy.
[10:14] Speaker 1: They get God in Westwood. Nobody know that, dude. You
[10:17] Speaker 1: wouldn't think that either. Just because it's down the street.
[10:20] Speaker 1: They just think, oh, crime over at USC.
[10:24] Speaker 2: Look at all those people.
[10:26] Speaker 1: People over there ain't got no money. They go over
[10:27] Speaker 1: there and get the money.
[10:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going over there. And outside the boiling crab.
[10:31] Speaker 3: I already know how it goes down. So let's shift
[10:35] Speaker 3: over to basketball. So over the next couple of days,
[10:37] Speaker 3: some young men will realize their dreams of being drafted
[10:39] Speaker 3: to the NBA. Obviously, you were the number one draft pick.
[10:42] Speaker 1: In 1996.
[10:42] Speaker 3: I want to take it back, ask you about your
[10:44] Speaker 3: draft party. We got some photos to show you at
[10:47] Speaker 3: that draft party. I heard it was very legendary. Here's
[10:51] Speaker 3: some shots of your draft party. Star-studded affair. You had
[10:54] Speaker 3: people like Primetime, Deion Sanders, all sorts of celebrities.
[10:56] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[10:57] Speaker 1: That pulled up that night.
[10:58] Speaker 5: Coolio.
[10:59] Speaker 2: Jimmy.
[10:59] Speaker 1: Jim Hill, the staple of Los Angeles sports scene. Never aged.
[11:03] Speaker 5: Staple.
[11:03] Speaker 6: Still look the same.
[11:04] Speaker 1: Still look the same. Still look the same.
[11:08] Speaker 5: Jim.
[11:09] Speaker 1: Jim Hill.
[11:10] Speaker 5: Jim. Listen, I didn't spoke my piece. Jim.
[11:13] Speaker 1: No, we hear you. We hear you, Jim. We hear you, Jim.
[11:18] Speaker 5: We hear you, Jim. I get it.
[11:20] Speaker 1: It's time to listen.
[11:21] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:22] Speaker 1: I get it.
[11:22] Speaker 6: So I've been knowing Jim.
[11:24] Speaker 5: I get it.
[11:24] Speaker 1: I've been knowing Jim since high school.
[11:26] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[11:26] Speaker 6: He covered me in high school, believe it or not.
[11:28] Speaker 5: Like, I get it. Yeah, real one.
[11:29] Speaker 6: I'm sort of on the Kenya Mark tip when it
[11:33] Speaker 6: comes to that.
[11:34] Speaker 1: I get it, Jim. But you got to just, you know.
[11:36] Speaker 5: It's Jim, though. I dig it, but. But, yeah, I
[11:39] Speaker 5: was with him.
[11:40] Speaker 2: You on regular, brother.
[11:42] Speaker 1: I was with him last.
[11:43] Speaker 5: We cool with Marv Albert. We ain't cool with Jim.
[11:46] Speaker 7: We rock with Jim here. We rock with that helmet.
[11:48] Speaker 7: We rock with that helmet unit. You know, I call
[11:50] Speaker 7: it spade to spade, bro.
[11:52] Speaker 1: The original Steve Harvey.
[11:53] Speaker 8: Jim.
[11:54] Speaker 1: Do what suits for you.
[11:55] Speaker 5: Oh, he is.
[11:56] Speaker 1: The original Steve Harvey. But you're right, though.
[11:58] Speaker 6: Somebody got to really pull him aside.
[12:01] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[12:03] Speaker 1: So let's shift it back. Like Jim Brown.
[12:05] Speaker 5: Like, bro, it ain't that dark no more.
[12:10] Speaker 4: It can't be. You said me. There's no way it's
[12:15] Speaker 4: that dark. I'm talking about him, Jim Brown, the dude
[12:19] Speaker 4: in the NFL, all of them. It ain't that dark no.
[12:21] Speaker 5: More, bro.
[12:21] Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. Shout out to Jim here, but
[12:22] Speaker 1: let's go back to your draft party. What do you remember?
[12:33] Speaker 5: We here.
[12:33] Speaker 1: What do you remember about your legendary draft party?
[12:36] Speaker 7: Me and him in the same shit.
[12:39] Speaker 5: Y'all crazy, man. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
[12:44] Speaker 1: The party?
[12:46] Speaker 2: Man, it was.
[12:48] Speaker 1: Where was it at first and foremost? It was House
[12:50] Speaker 1: of Blues on Sunset. Yeah, the good old days.
[12:53] Speaker 6: It was House of Blues on Sunset.
[12:55] Speaker 1: Um.
[12:56] Speaker 6: Man, it was crazy.
[12:57] Speaker 1: It just was crazy. We was putting it together.
[12:59] Speaker 6: We had started putting it together like, man, I feel
[13:03] Speaker 6: like in February, like we started putting it together.
[13:07] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because I knew I was
[13:09] Speaker 1: going to go one.
[13:11] Speaker 5: 1,000%.
[13:11] Speaker 6: There's nobody better than me, man. It ain't even close.
[13:16] Speaker 6: People don't have better NFL careers than me based on
[13:19] Speaker 6: the situation, but as far as college goes, it wasn't
[13:21] Speaker 6: even close.
[13:22] Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
[13:23] Speaker 1: That's just.
[13:24] Speaker 6: The only reason why people have better NFL careers is
[13:26] Speaker 6: because they had quarterbacks. You know, I played 11 seasons.
[13:29] Speaker 6: I had 17 different quarterbacks in 11 seasons.
[13:32] Speaker 5: You know?
[13:33] Speaker 1: You know I'm with him.
[13:34] Speaker 6: So, you know how it go. The party was like,
[13:39] Speaker 6: we started putting this shit together and at this time,
[13:45] Speaker 6: you know, like Def Roe was like popping with everybody
[13:47] Speaker 6: and Pac and Suge and everybody and Hammer was with
[13:51] Speaker 6: them now and obviously Snoop. And Coolio was coming off
[13:55] Speaker 6: a Grammy. He was just, he had just, I feel
[13:59] Speaker 6: like it was like Paradise was his Grammy or whatever
[14:02] Speaker 6: in that movie. He had just, the Grammys was like
[14:06] Speaker 6: a month before maybe or something like that. And so
[14:09] Speaker 6: we was like, who are we going to book? What
[14:11] Speaker 6: are we going to get? All this sort of stuff.
[14:13] Speaker 6: So we wind up just picking LA folk, right? And saying,
[14:18] Speaker 6: this is what we're going to do.
[14:18] Speaker 5: What are we going to have?
[14:19] Speaker 6: We're going to have a house of blues. Standing room only.
[14:23] Speaker 6: I mean, it was so many. It was just every
[14:27] Speaker 6: fucking body. If you was somebody in the industry and
[14:32] Speaker 6: you wasn't there, then you wasn't nobody. Especially if you
[14:35] Speaker 6: was black. You know what I'm saying?
[14:37] Speaker 1: And it was like females just everywhere.
[14:41] Speaker 2: Shit was crazy.
[14:42] Speaker 1: That's all I can say.
[14:42] Speaker 2: It was crazy.
[14:44] Speaker 6: So then, I'm downstairs. I don't know what I was
[14:48] Speaker 6: mingling with everybody.
[14:49] Speaker 1: So.
[14:51] Speaker 1: I didn't even invite Dion.
[14:53] Speaker 5: I didn't even know Dion. Okay. At all. Probably didn't
[14:57] Speaker 5: need one. No, I didn't.
[14:59] Speaker 1: As he showed, he didn't need no interstate.
[15:00] Speaker 2: No, I didn't need him.
[15:01] Speaker 6: So they come and tap me and say, man, Dion, Prime,
[15:05] Speaker 6: Dion wanted to holler at you.
[15:07] Speaker 1: I'm like, Dion, who?
[15:08] Speaker 5: Like, Dion Sanders, man.
[15:10] Speaker 6: You know, Prime time.
[15:10] Speaker 2: I said, where he at?
[15:12] Speaker 6: I thought he was on the phone or something. He
[15:14] Speaker 6: was like, no, he in the foundation room. So I'm like, okay, cool.
[15:18] Speaker 6: So I mingled a little bit more. They come back,
[15:19] Speaker 6: get me. I go upstairs. This nigga wrote a foundation rule.
[15:25] Speaker 6: He got all burgundy or maroon or whatever it was.
[15:29] Speaker 6: He got more jewels on than my man. He just draped, right?
[15:34] Speaker 1: So I walk in.
[15:35] Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, shit. Yeehaw.
[15:38] Speaker 6: I'm like tripping because I'm like, I didn't invite him.
[15:41] Speaker 6: And I know my assistants and nobody else invited him
[15:43] Speaker 6: because we didn't know him. And he just wanted to
[15:46] Speaker 6: come and be a part of the celebration. So remember,
[15:50] Speaker 6: it was baseball season, too. So he flew. I don't
[15:55] Speaker 6: know if he was the Yankees or maybe Atlanta somewhere.
[15:58] Speaker 2: He flew in and it just popped up. I'm like, damn,
[16:03] Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, OK.
[16:04] Speaker 5: I'm him.
[16:04] Speaker 6: OK, so I just sit up, talk to him, chop
[16:08] Speaker 6: it up with him.
[16:09] Speaker 5: And he.
[16:11] Speaker 6: He just wanted to give me some words of advice
[16:13] Speaker 6: to the league and watch out for the pitfalls. You know,
[16:16] Speaker 6: he just wanted to be a big brother. And we
[16:18] Speaker 6: formed a relationship basically from that point on. Much respect.
[16:22] Speaker 6: We done played against each other just the whole deal.
[16:25] Speaker 6: And then, you know, the performances was great. Typical death row.
[16:31] Speaker 6: They show up late. They supposed to be on time.
[16:34] Speaker 1: But, you know. Suge was there, I imagine.
[16:35] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[16:36] Speaker 5: Yeah, Suge was there.
[16:36] Speaker 1: Pop was there.
[16:37] Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, all them dudes was there. All of them
[16:44] Speaker 5: was there.
[16:45] Speaker 1: Man, you know what? I got a picture of it
[16:48] Speaker 1: in my phone.
[16:51] Speaker 6: They came and it was just everybody there, but then outside,
[16:55] Speaker 6: if you know LA and you know Sunset and La Cienega,
[16:59] Speaker 6: so go east of La Cienega to basically Crescent Heights. Fairfax.
[17:06] Speaker 1: You know they block that whole street off?
[17:08] Speaker 6: Sunset was blocked because there was another 2,000 people on
[17:11] Speaker 6: the outside estimated trying to get into the party.
[17:14] Speaker 1: It was crazy, though.
[17:16] Speaker 5: It was some wild.
[17:18] Speaker 6: So after the party, in Keyshawn fashion, I got the
[17:23] Speaker 6: hotel across the street, so I done got the whole flow.
[17:25] Speaker 6: This is cracking, though.
[17:26] Speaker 1: You know, the whole flow is at the top.
[17:28] Speaker 6: You know, you can just boop, boop, rule, rule.
[17:30] Speaker 1: So it's going.
[17:31] Speaker 2: Down like a real concert.
[17:33] Speaker 6: I'm on the absolute. I remember it like it was yesterday.
[17:35] Speaker 6: I done drank a whole bottle. I had a midterm
[17:38] Speaker 6: the next day. I go and take the midterm the
[17:42] Speaker 6: next day at USC. See, that's what we do as Trojans.
[17:44] Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? So I went the next day,
[17:48] Speaker 6: even though I got no sleep, took my midterm and
[17:51] Speaker 6: everything and had fun, you know, until it was time
[17:54] Speaker 6: for minicamp after I got off the chitlins.
[17:56] Speaker 1: I wasn't worth shit in the minicamp, though. I wasn't
[17:58] Speaker 1: no good.
[17:59] Speaker 6: It was a chitlin circuit for me for a few days.
[18:01] Speaker 1: That's understandable. You got to turn up and celebrate. You
[18:03] Speaker 1: only get that experience one time.
[18:04] Speaker 5: But it was a.
[18:06] Speaker 6: It was a real experience, though. We had fun.
[18:09] Speaker 3: So we also talked about you being a Super Bowl
[18:11] Speaker 3: champion with the Bucks back in the day, as we
[18:13] Speaker 3: have the arena decorated, Thunder celebrating, winning the first title
[18:17] Speaker 3: in their franchise history. They had their parade today. You
[18:19] Speaker 3: can see a lot of those dudes cannot handle their
[18:21] Speaker 3: liquor too well. But how did you celebrate winning the
[18:24] Speaker 3: Super Bowl?
[18:25] Speaker 6: So after the Super Bowl, I had a party at
[18:28] Speaker 6: the W Hotel in San Diego. And then after the party,
[18:34] Speaker 6: I helicoptered from San Diego to to L.A., and I
[18:40] Speaker 6: actually missed the post-celebration. I went to the ticker tape,
[18:45] Speaker 6: but everybody flew in, and everybody was waiting at the stadium,
[18:49] Speaker 6: you know, whatever. It was 60,000 people at the stadium,
[18:51] Speaker 6: but I stayed back because I went on Jay Leno
[18:55] Speaker 6: the next day, and then I flew back to Tampa,
[18:59] Speaker 6: but I celebrated, man, probably for a whole week, you know,
[19:03] Speaker 6: just getting it in.
[19:05] Speaker 5: Yeah. As you should. For the whole week, though.
[19:08] Speaker 2: But the party at the W was crazy, too.
[19:11] Speaker 5: You know?
[19:12] Speaker 1: That's when the W was cracking.
[19:13] Speaker 6: Yeah, it was San Diego W. It was bananas and
[19:16] Speaker 6: the alcohol was flowing and you was just being grown.
[19:19] Speaker 6: You had just won the Super Bowl. I had no voice.
[19:23] Speaker 5: You know?
[19:24] Speaker 6: All my partners and everybody came up to go to
[19:27] Speaker 6: the Super Bowl from L.A. Because I had to get
[19:31] Speaker 6: like 100 and something tickets. You know, I was getting
[19:34] Speaker 6: tickets from everybody, man. Practice squad dudes. I was paying
[19:37] Speaker 6: them on the plane flying in. You know, it was
[19:40] Speaker 6: like a whole thing. Everybody was hustling the ticket game.
[19:43] Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I got cash.
[19:44] Speaker 6: What I did when we went to Philadelphia is I
[19:48] Speaker 6: figured we was going to beat Philly the second time around.
[19:51] Speaker 6: So I got a shitload of money, cash. And I
[19:54] Speaker 6: knew that if I'm on the plane, you know, I'm
[19:57] Speaker 6: a street fuel. So I kind of know I would
[19:58] Speaker 6: get there before somebody else get to him.
[20:01] Speaker 2: So I got the money. Right there. And I'm talking
[20:03] Speaker 2: to them.
[20:04] Speaker 6: Get your four tickets now because you physically had tickets
[20:07] Speaker 6: in your hand opposed to like now everything is on
[20:09] Speaker 6: apps and all that.
[20:10] Speaker 5: For sure.
[20:10] Speaker 6: So I got the money. I'm paying dudes on the
[20:13] Speaker 6: plane as we fly. And I'm just giving it to him. Like,
[20:15] Speaker 6: make sure I get your tickets.
[20:16] Speaker 5: Make sure.
[20:17] Speaker 6: So I had to collect. Like I said, 100 or
[20:19] Speaker 6: something tickets. I had to make sure my family was good,
[20:21] Speaker 6: but I also had to make sure all the homies
[20:22] Speaker 6: was good and just people that went on the journey
[20:25] Speaker 6: with me.
[20:26] Speaker 1: It was a fun journey, though.
[20:28] Speaker 6: That's two things that people can't ever take away from you,
[20:30] Speaker 6: that degree from USC and that Super Bowl ring.
[20:32] Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. Knowing you as a prodigy,
[20:39] Speaker 5: number one pick, fulfilling that prophecy of being a Super
[20:43] Speaker 5: Bowl champion, how important was it for you to win
[20:47] Speaker 5: that championship?
[20:48] Speaker 6: Man, it was so important, you know, because as I
[20:52] Speaker 6: played sports in college and in high school, I won
[20:56] Speaker 6: at every single level. And I didn't want to be
[20:59] Speaker 6: a professional and be a part of a team and
[21:04] Speaker 6: not just a role player, but be a part of
[21:05] Speaker 6: a team and not win a championship. You know, I
[21:08] Speaker 6: didn't want people to be like, oh, he played, he
[21:10] Speaker 6: was doing good. Man, he never won a Super Bowl.
[21:12] Speaker 6: I didn't want that.
[21:13] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[21:13] Speaker 6: Once I won a Super Bowl, I felt like I'm
[21:17] Speaker 6: good now.
[21:18] Speaker 1: You know, and I did it.
[21:19] Speaker 6: I think I was six, four. I think I was
[21:23] Speaker 6: my sixth or seventh season. So at that point, I
[21:25] Speaker 6: had already started thinking about shutting it down. Anyway, I've
[21:27] Speaker 6: got what I came for. I got the bag, you know, twice.
[21:32] Speaker 1: Well, actually, three times.
[21:33] Speaker 6: But the second time, the first time was the big bag.
[21:36] Speaker 6: But then the second time was a bigger bag. The
[21:38] Speaker 6: third time was whatever. You know, at that point, when
[21:40] Speaker 6: I got to the third time, it was time to close.
[21:42] Speaker 1: The doors anyway.
[21:43] Speaker 5: So can't nobody say Keyshawn Johnson didn't come and be
[21:46] Speaker 5: all that we thought he would be.
[21:49] Speaker 2: You know, some people can say that.
[21:50] Speaker 5: How?
[21:51] Speaker 1: Because that's the way the world works. But they're probably broke.
[21:53] Speaker 1: But I really don't give a fuck what they say.
[21:55] Speaker 1: You was the number one pick.
[21:56] Speaker 2: But I don't care about that. No, I'm saying I
[21:58] Speaker 2: don't care about what people say. I could care less
[22:00] Speaker 2: about it.
[22:00] Speaker 6: But I know how people in the world of sports,
[22:05] Speaker 6: how they treat us when they think. Something different. That's
[22:10] Speaker 6: how it but I don't.
[22:11] Speaker 1: Care expectation is expectation, right?
[22:14] Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly It's like there is no disappointment with when
[22:19] Speaker 5: you look at your shit you looking back and you
[22:21] Speaker 5: say man I actually I touch ground.
[22:24] Speaker 6: You know, what's so funny though?
[22:25] Speaker 1: It's crazy.
[22:26] Speaker 6: You even mentioned you and brought this up So I
[22:27] Speaker 6: was working out the day I wasn't working out or
[22:29] Speaker 6: tready I usually talk to my partner who you know,
[22:32] Speaker 6: we usually because he he oh he he's in another state.
[22:37] Speaker 6: And so he gets up a little early. I go
[22:39] Speaker 6: at seven and he gets in the gym probably around
[22:41] Speaker 6: eight o'clock. So it, and we on the treadmill, we
[22:44] Speaker 6: on the trick. Cause I do about two hours of
[22:46] Speaker 6: the tready right now. You know, and we own that
[22:49] Speaker 6: motherfucker walking and talking. And he don't understand why I
[22:51] Speaker 6: don't push my narrative like everybody else. I said, man,
[22:54] Speaker 6: I don't need to do that. You know, he's like, man,
[22:56] Speaker 6: but you need to. You need to let these motherfuckers know.
[22:59] Speaker 6: I said, no, I'm good. I'm satisfied. But like you said, though,
[23:04] Speaker 6: number one pick, Super Bowl champion, got the bag, was
[23:07] Speaker 6: the highest paid position at the time.
[23:09] Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I just never, you know,
[23:12] Speaker 2: my whole goal, my whole goal, though.
[23:14] Speaker 6: Was a graduate from college. I didn't leave as a
[23:17] Speaker 6: junior even though I thought about it.
[23:19] Speaker 1: I took a chance.
[23:21] Speaker 6: I came back. I was the number one overall pick.
[23:23] Speaker 6: But my whole goal... Was it be able to help
[23:26] Speaker 6: my family? That's all I cared about was getting the
[23:28] Speaker 6: money to help my family. I didn't care about nothing else.
[23:32] Speaker 6: The Super Bowl was just a it was like icing
[23:34] Speaker 6: on the cake for me. The real shit was getting
[23:37] Speaker 6: the money. Get my mom out the little 700 square
[23:40] Speaker 6: foot apartment. You know, I'm saying with six kids stacked
[23:43] Speaker 6: up on top of each other fighting for space. That
[23:46] Speaker 6: was my goal. So once I accomplished that, the rest
[23:49] Speaker 6: of it was like whatever. At that point, I was like, chill.
[23:54] Speaker 6: Don't talk about all that.
[23:55] Speaker 3: So we got some breaking news out of the NFL
[23:57] Speaker 3: today we want to talk to you about. So Aaron
[23:58] Speaker 3: Rodgers said in an interview on the Pat McAfee show
[24:01] Speaker 3: today that he's pretty sure this upcoming season with the
[24:04] Speaker 3: Steelers will be his final year in the NFL. So
[24:07] Speaker 3: first I want to ask you, do you really believe
[24:08] Speaker 3: this will be Aaron Rodgers' final year? And if it is,
[24:10] Speaker 3: what has he meant to the NFL during his time
[24:12] Speaker 3: in the league?
[24:13] Speaker 6: Well, it's two things with the final year, right? I
[24:16] Speaker 6: believe if he go to AFC Championship game, they're going
[24:18] Speaker 6: to bring him back. They're going to have to bring
[24:20] Speaker 6: him back.
[24:20] Speaker 1: It's going to make sense.
[24:21] Speaker 6: That means he really knocked off a lot of that
[24:24] Speaker 6: rust over the last couple years. But anything short of
[24:27] Speaker 6: AFC Championship game, it's probably going to be his final year.
[24:30] Speaker 6: You know, just making the playoffs ain't good. And they
[24:32] Speaker 6: make the playoffs with me and you playing quarterback.
[24:34] Speaker 1: Right now.
[24:35] Speaker 5: That's what Mike Tomlin, every year.
[24:36] Speaker 2: He's winning records.
[24:41] Speaker 6: The whole thing is to go get Aaron Rodgers to
[24:43] Speaker 6: push you over the top. But if he doesn't do that,
[24:45] Speaker 6: why would you bring him back? And then in terms
[24:47] Speaker 6: of what he's meant to the league, I mean, he
[24:50] Speaker 6: could have gone down as the greatest quarterback. And I
[24:57] Speaker 6: understand Tom Brady got seven and ten and all that
[25:00] Speaker 6: rings and played in ten of them. But had Aaron
[25:02] Speaker 6: Rodgers got like three, four, that conversation would be oh, man,
[25:08] Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is really the greatest quarterback because of his
[25:11] Speaker 6: arm talent, right? He's got such amazing arm talent that
[25:14] Speaker 6: even though he only won one, the dude's arm talent
[25:19] Speaker 6: was ridiculous at the time. Now, all of a sudden,
[25:21] Speaker 6: he's like a shell of himself to a degree. It'll
[25:26] Speaker 6: be interesting to see how people view him. I mean,
[25:28] Speaker 6: he obviously first battled Hall of Famer. He's going to
[25:30] Speaker 6: walk in whenever he's eligible to do that, but there's
[25:33] Speaker 6: going to be people that's like, You know, because he
[25:35] Speaker 6: got some weird, he like a weird shit at times.
[25:37] Speaker 6: He reacted like a weirdo.
[25:39] Speaker 1: Darkness retreats and all types of stuff.
[25:42] Speaker 6: Yeah, he be on some weird shit.
[25:43] Speaker 5: He do.
[25:44] Speaker 6: He be on some weird shit. And so they going
[25:46] Speaker 6: to treat him a certain way.
[25:49] Speaker 1: You think he still got something left in the tank?
[25:50] Speaker 1: I do.
[25:50] Speaker 5: He got one more run left in him? No, I do, man.
[25:53] Speaker 6: And everybody who plays sports can tell you, surroundings and
[25:56] Speaker 6: situations and circumstances can help you. When you're in a
[25:59] Speaker 6: wrong situation, in a wrong surroundings, it can mess you up. See,
[26:04] Speaker 6: they allowed him in New York to dictate his own avenue.
[26:08] Speaker 6: They're not doing that in Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin ain't going
[26:10] Speaker 6: to let him walk in there and change the culture
[26:13] Speaker 6: of what that locker room is. The last two years,
[26:15] Speaker 6: he essentially built the Jets. He hired the offensive coordinator.
[26:19] Speaker 6: He fired the offensive coordinator. He threw the receiver under
[26:22] Speaker 6: the bus and ran him over twice. You see what
[26:25] Speaker 6: I'm saying? He was just acting weird the last three,
[26:29] Speaker 6: four years of his career.
[26:30] Speaker 5: Why?
[26:31] Speaker 6: I don't know, but If he could just listen to
[26:33] Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin now, he might have an opportunity.
[26:38] Speaker 1: They just might have an opportunity because they're going to
[26:39] Speaker 1: have a hell of a defense.
[26:40] Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
[26:41] Speaker 6: And they're going to run the football. As long as
[26:42] Speaker 6: he don't dink and dunk and screw it up, they
[26:45] Speaker 6: should be okay.
[26:45] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's shift over to the basketball side.
[26:49] Speaker 3: So your co-host on Speak, Paul Pierce, said he would
[26:52] Speaker 3: walk 20 miles to work if the Celtics lost game
[26:55] Speaker 3: two of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks.
[26:57] Speaker 1: This was back in May.
[26:58] Speaker 3: Celtics did, in fact, lose that game, blowing a 20-point
[27:01] Speaker 3: lead in the process. Paul had a bunch of great
[27:03] Speaker 3: stories documenting his walk from here in the Valley to
[27:06] Speaker 3: your studios in West L.A.
[27:07] Speaker 1: So, like, a good teammate. You pulled up on him
[27:09] Speaker 1: during the walk to show some support.
[27:11] Speaker 5: Look who I ran into, my boy Keith. He out
[27:14] Speaker 5: here going walking. Look who I found. He ran up
[27:17] Speaker 5: on me. He saw me walking. Here you go right here.
[27:20] Speaker 5: Got me some water. Man, I appreciate y'all, man. I
[27:22] Speaker 5: appreciate you, my dog. I'll see you at the studio
[27:25] Speaker 5: in a minute, though, man. I got to go.
[27:27] Speaker 1: Man, let me get this.
[27:28] Speaker 5: I got about five more miles to go, dog.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Look at this dude, man.
[27:33] Speaker 5: All right, I'm out. My man ran up on me.
[27:38] Speaker 5: I got five more to go. Good luck for the water, dog. Damn.
[27:49] Speaker 5: PP crazy as hell.
[27:51] Speaker 3: So, True grew up in Englewood. People from Englewood know
[27:53] Speaker 3: him for being a little fugazi for capping. That's just
[27:55] Speaker 3: the truth.
[27:57] Speaker 1: Did Paul really walk the full 20 miles to work?
[27:59] Speaker 6: Man, I caught him on the back end, and I
[28:02] Speaker 6: caught him on the front end at 5 a.m.
[28:03] Speaker 5: In the morning.
[28:06] Speaker 6: I'm trying to see, how did I see him when
[28:08] Speaker 6: he started? I feel like my son showed me on
[28:11] Speaker 6: his way to school. He showed me. So, I caught
[28:14] Speaker 6: him on the back end, though. So, I said, when
[28:17] Speaker 6: I'm going, I had to get.
[28:18] Speaker 5: And.
[28:20] Speaker 6: I was getting a haircut. He walked past. He had
[28:23] Speaker 6: walked past the barbershop.
[28:25] Speaker 1: Oh, you just saw him walk on his throat.
[28:26] Speaker 6: And then I finished getting hit up. And then once
[28:30] Speaker 6: he got into the Bel Air area, I called him
[28:33] Speaker 6: again because I think I was talking to the producers
[28:36] Speaker 6: and they was like, he over near Bel Air. And
[28:39] Speaker 6: so I called him and he was telling me where
[28:40] Speaker 6: it was. So I drove over there, stopped at the
[28:42] Speaker 6: gas station, bought him a bottle of Fiji and watched
[28:45] Speaker 6: him walk.
[28:47] Speaker 5: Now, all I can tell you is.
[28:49] Speaker 1: Quality water.
[28:51] Speaker 6: I can tell you the motherfucker was walking. That's all
[28:53] Speaker 6: I can tell you. And he was walking in Beverly
[28:56] Speaker 6: Hills area too. Westwood, Beverly Hills. Because people, like other
[29:00] Speaker 6: people saw him. Like people driving down the street was
[29:02] Speaker 6: filming him and shit. So, now whether he walked two
[29:05] Speaker 6: miles or 18 miles, he was walking.
[29:08] Speaker 1: Okay.
[29:09] Speaker 6: But that's his fault. He should have never bet on
[29:11] Speaker 6: the Celtics in the first place. I tried to warn him.
[29:14] Speaker 6: I tried to get him out of that. See, because...
[29:17] Speaker 6: I had enough intel and knowledge when I made the
[29:21] Speaker 6: bet for myself. Because I had made the bet back
[29:24] Speaker 6: in January. Maybe it was early February. And I said
[29:30] Speaker 6: on the show, I said I'll walk from the house
[29:32] Speaker 6: to the studio in my boxers and flip-flops if Aaron
[29:35] Speaker 6: Rodgers is the starting quarterback of the New York Jets
[29:38] Speaker 6: on opening day in September. but I ain't no damn
[29:40] Speaker 6: fool I knew he wasn't gonna be the starting quarterback
[29:43] Speaker 6: see what I'm saying I knew I ain't no winner
[29:46] Speaker 6: world my best friend one of my best friends is
[29:48] Speaker 6: a head coach and I he think like I think
[29:50] Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying?
[29:51] Speaker 2: I didn't need to call A.G.
[29:53] Speaker 6: And say, A.G., you going to keep him? Because I
[29:54] Speaker 6: already knew he wasn't going to keep him. Because he
[29:55] Speaker 6: think like I think. Why would I want this dude
[29:57] Speaker 6: in my locker room? And I'm a new coach.
[29:59] Speaker 5: I ain't.
[29:59] Speaker 6: No, uh-uh. So I knew he was going to be
[30:01] Speaker 6: gone ASAP. So when I said it, Paul doubled down
[30:05] Speaker 6: on it later on to a basketball season.
[30:07] Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that probably wasn't the right move. Not
[30:10] Speaker 1: with them Knicks and Celtics, nah.
[30:12] Speaker 3: Inglewood. Inglewood P. Okay, so let's move on to your
[30:16] Speaker 3: favorite subject. Favorite subject of the show as well.
[30:19] Speaker 1: The Lakers. So we know you're a really big Lakers fan.
[30:22] Speaker 3: Don't do that. Kenyon, I have intel as well. Why
[30:24] Speaker 3: you be hating on the Lakers, man? I have intel
[30:26] Speaker 3: as well. We're getting KJ.
[30:27] Speaker 5: I've been here 45.
[30:28] Speaker 2: Minutes and you ain't had nothing to say nice.
[30:31] Speaker 1: We're getting KJ. Don't worry. Yo, it is fucking every day.
[30:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[30:36] Speaker 6: That's what it's going to be.
[30:37] Speaker 5: No, bro. Every day.
[30:38] Speaker 1: Did we talk about the Lakers yesterday? No, no. Now
[30:40] Speaker 1: the season is over. I only wanted five years.
[30:43] Speaker 5: My thing is, so.
[30:45] Speaker 1: See, me growing up a Cowboys fan, so I get it, right?
[30:48] Speaker 6: No, it's different.
[30:49] Speaker 1: I get it. No, we just won three, four years ago.
[30:52] Speaker 2: I get it.
[30:52] Speaker 1: Y'all have, but it's just whatever.
[30:54] Speaker 2: Five seasons?
[30:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, we won five seasons. Yeah, five seasons ago. I
[30:57] Speaker 1: get it. They ain't won in 30 years.
[30:59] Speaker 5: They have not.
[31:00] Speaker 4: And listen, I'm with it, absolutely, but it's just the
[31:03] Speaker 4: same shit like, dude.
[31:05] Speaker 5: No, it ain't.
[31:06] Speaker 1: There's so many other shit we can talk about. There is, but...
[31:09] Speaker 1: We are in Los Angeles. What you going to talk about?
[31:10] Speaker 1: We got a Los Angeles representative.
[31:12] Speaker 2: What are we going to talk about? The Chicago Bulls?
[31:14] Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns.
[31:15] Speaker 5: What are we going to.
[31:16] Speaker 6: Talk about the Phoenix Suns? What are we going to
[31:17] Speaker 6: talk about them? They had three all-stars and couldn't make
[31:20] Speaker 6: the playoffs.
[31:20] Speaker 1: It should be on the back end of the show,
[31:21] Speaker 1: not at the top. Wemby.
[31:22] Speaker 5: Wemby, the Spurs.
[31:23] Speaker 1: What are we going to say?
[31:24] Speaker 5: Rockets.
[31:26] Speaker 1: We talked about the Rockies yesterday. Look, check this out, though.
[31:29] Speaker 7: We can talk about how this is nicely decorated before
[31:33] Speaker 7: we talk about the Lakers.
[31:34] Speaker 2: Y'all really think.
[31:36] Speaker 1: I have some notes.
[31:37] Speaker 6: The global sports world really want to talk about Wimby
[31:39] Speaker 6: and the damn San Antonio Spurs over the Los Angeles Lakers?
[31:44] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[31:45] Speaker 1: You know.
[31:46] Speaker 7: Y'all about to talk about the Clippers.
[31:49] Speaker 5: Yep.
[31:49] Speaker 1: No, them too.
[31:51] Speaker 6: No, we don't talk about the Clippers here.
[31:52] Speaker 1: So let's talk a little Lakers.
[31:54] Speaker 3: Team recently sold for $ 10 billion to Mark Walter, who
[31:57] Speaker 3: also owns the Dodgers, the world champion Dodgers. They defeated
[32:00] Speaker 3: the Yankees in the World Series, for those who may
[32:01] Speaker 3: have forgotten. Are you worried at all about how the
[32:04] Speaker 3: sale of the team will impact the Lakers' encore product?
[32:06] Speaker 1: Are you excited about this move?
[32:09] Speaker 6: No, I think from everything Mark has done with the
[32:12] Speaker 6: Dodgers and other sports organizations that he's involved in, he
[32:17] Speaker 6: spends the money. I don't think he's getting caught up
[32:21] Speaker 6: in the luxury tax and all the different stuff. Like,
[32:24] Speaker 6: he goes and spends the money. I mean, clearly you
[32:26] Speaker 6: can see it based on the Dodgers roster and all that.
[32:29] Speaker 6: And I think it's been said before that the Lakers,
[32:35] Speaker 6: they really don't want to spend that money.
[32:37] Speaker 1: You know, Dr.
[32:38] Speaker 6: Buss spent the money, but the family don't want to
[32:41] Speaker 6: spend the money now. So I think he'll... And he'll
[32:44] Speaker 6: spend the money to get the players that he needs
[32:46] Speaker 6: to get and change things a little bit different.
[32:49] Speaker 1: Where, you know, LeBron is on the back end.
[32:51] Speaker 6: Well, he is on the back end, but he's probably
[32:53] Speaker 6: his last hoorah as a Laker probably going to be
[32:56] Speaker 6: this year. And so you.
[32:58] Speaker 1: Now get that $ 57.
[33:00] Speaker 6: Million back in your cap relief when he's gone, you know,
[33:03] Speaker 6: and you not only get the cap relief, that stranglehold
[33:07] Speaker 6: that he had on the organization, that now opens us gone.
[33:09] Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's gone. It's gone.
[33:12] Speaker 2: Stranglehold gone.
[33:13] Speaker 6: If he gone, the stranglehold gone.
[33:15] Speaker 1: It's a nice strangle, though.
[33:16] Speaker 5: How?
[33:17] Speaker 1: They're still letting him breathe.
[33:19] Speaker 6: Eh, but you can't, it's just, he too, no, he cool.
[33:24] Speaker 5: Who? LeBron, he cool.
[33:26] Speaker 1: I fuck with LeBron, he cool.
[33:28] Speaker 5: Like air conditioning cool?
[33:29] Speaker 6: No, when I'm saying cool, I mean like as a player,
[33:32] Speaker 6: he cool in his age, like he's straight, no problems
[33:35] Speaker 6: at all. But we ain't going nowhere. So now we
[33:38] Speaker 6: got to... And so we let him get the rocket
[33:41] Speaker 6: chair treatment this year.
[33:42] Speaker 1: You sure you want to talk about this?
[33:44] Speaker 10: Why?
[33:44] Speaker 1: I'm just asking.
[33:45] Speaker 6: No, I don't have no problem with it.
[33:47] Speaker 1: Go ahead, continue.
[33:48] Speaker 2: I don't have no problem with it. Some of y'all
[33:50] Speaker 2: be having problems with it. I ain't got no problem
[33:51] Speaker 2: with it.
[33:53] Speaker 1: Continue, go ahead, continue.
[33:54] Speaker 6: But we can get the rocket chair treatment this year.
[33:57] Speaker 1: You know?
[33:58] Speaker 6: And then go on and do whatever you're going to
[33:59] Speaker 6: do and that's what it's going to be.
[34:01] Speaker 5: So you kind of feel like I feel.
[34:02] Speaker 2: Like.
[34:04] Speaker 5: What you mean?
[34:05] Speaker 1: Time to move on from this. Second team all-NBA selection.
[34:08] Speaker 2: That's all cool.
[34:10] Speaker 6: But if you want the team to be Lucas, it
[34:14] Speaker 6: ain't going to be Lucas as long as the king
[34:15] Speaker 6: is there.
[34:16] Speaker 5: That's just reality.
[34:17] Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying?
[34:18] Speaker 1: It could be like both of theirs. No, it ain't
[34:20] Speaker 1: going to never do that. Like Red's beach cruiser.
[34:22] Speaker 6: No, it ain't going to be that way. Think about it.
[34:26] Speaker 6: When I was playing receiver, you ain't throwing the ball
[34:29] Speaker 6: to nobody else. That's just reality.
[34:32] Speaker 5: Because it's the reality of it. I'm open.
[34:34] Speaker 2: Until I'm gone.
[34:35] Speaker 1: I'm open.
[34:35] Speaker 5: I'm open when I ain't open.
[34:37] Speaker 2: When I'm gone, you can get a ball from somebody else.
[34:39] Speaker 6: There's no other option.
[34:40] Speaker 1: Okay.
[34:41] Speaker 6: That's the same thing with LeBron. LeBron doesn't know. Think
[34:43] Speaker 6: about it. It's 21 years of playing back. He don't
[34:45] Speaker 6: know no other way. You know, everybody keeps saying, well,
[34:47] Speaker 6: he can take a step back and he can, you know, maybe.
[34:50] Speaker 2: He ain't going to go stand in no corner.
[34:53] Speaker 5: He can't.
[34:53] Speaker 1: It's impossible.
[34:54] Speaker 5: It's impossible.
[34:55] Speaker 6: It's just.
[34:56] Speaker 2: That's like asking Jordan to just.
[34:58] Speaker 1: Kobe, man, just take a backseat to.
[35:01] Speaker 5: No!
[35:01] Speaker 6: Ain't gonna happen. So in order for us to get
[35:04] Speaker 6: to where we're trying to go, we, you know, farewell tour.
[35:08] Speaker 5: That's okay, though.
[35:09] Speaker 1: I'm fucking done everything, man.
[35:11] Speaker 2: 40-something years old and championship. I ain't got nothing to prove.
[35:15] Speaker 3: So LeBron got the farewell tour, but now Luka, the
[35:17] Speaker 3: face of the Lakers franchise, so been looking slim. Been
[35:20] Speaker 3: looking slim in pictures over the summer, according to a
[35:21] Speaker 3: report from Dan Wojcicki of The Athletic. Slovenian Jesus has
[35:25] Speaker 3: been back in his homeland this summer. Strict diet, training regimen.
[35:28] Speaker 3: repairs to represent his country in Eurobasket.
[35:30] Speaker 1: Later this summer.
[35:31] Speaker 3: But how do you expect Luka to respond to the Lakers'
[35:34] Speaker 3: first-round playoff exit this season?
[35:36] Speaker 1: He's responding.
[35:37] Speaker 6: He's over there training and looking slim, Jim, and he's responding. Man,
[35:43] Speaker 6: everybody complains about his defense, right? defense in my eyes
[35:48] Speaker 6: from everything that I've learned about basketball as a fake
[35:51] Speaker 6: basketball player in my day.
[35:53] Speaker 1: You never hooped it on? Yeah, I said a fake
[35:55] Speaker 1: basketball player. That was fake.
[35:56] Speaker 2: I wasn't Kenyon Martin.
[35:57] Speaker 1: I wasn't doing, I wasn't Brandon in them. I wasn't
[35:59] Speaker 1: doing it.
[35:59] Speaker 2: Like that, but I can play.
[36:01] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[36:02] Speaker 6: It's all effort on the defensive side. And if you
[36:04] Speaker 6: ain't giving that effort, just give me some try hard.
[36:07] Speaker 6: Like when he first got to the Lakers for the
[36:08] Speaker 6: first two weeks, I thought he was going to be
[36:12] Speaker 6: a changed man. Play both ends of the floor. But
[36:15] Speaker 6: that ended real quick. Real fast. The hustle just slowed down. So,
[36:21] Speaker 6: you know, you got to build around him, but you
[36:23] Speaker 6: can't build around him until LeBron is gone.
[36:25] Speaker 3: Because it's LeBron's team. Do you think Luka will be
[36:28] Speaker 3: in the MVP discussion next season? John Collins, KJ Martin.
[36:36] Speaker 3: Not as long as LeBron is on the team. He's
[36:38] Speaker 3: going to be in the discussion, but he ain't going
[36:40] Speaker 3: to be in the discussion. We're going to start off
[36:43] Speaker 3: with him in the discussion.
[36:44] Speaker 5: Right.
[36:45] Speaker 6: But by the time the shit hit the fan and
[36:47] Speaker 6: it really go down, he going to be out of
[36:49] Speaker 6: it because LeBron is still on the team.
[36:51] Speaker 1: But can Ebony and Ivory work together in perfect harmony?
[36:53] Speaker 1: Not to win no championship. Not in this situation.
[36:55] Speaker 5: No, no.
[36:57] Speaker 6: You got the same. They basically to a degree, the
[37:01] Speaker 6: same guy to a degree at this age that LeBron is.
[37:08] Speaker 5: So should Luka be playing this summer?
[37:10] Speaker 1: You think? Should he be playing Eurobasket with Slovenia? I
[37:13] Speaker 1: don't think so. You don't think he should? I don't
[37:15] Speaker 1: think so.
[37:16] Speaker 4: What does he have to prove? I get that's his country,
[37:22] Speaker 4: that's his home. I'm not taking anything away from that,
[37:25] Speaker 4: first and foremost. I understand what that means to them.
[37:28] Speaker 4: I understand that. But for his NBA life and NBA career.
[37:36] Speaker 4: Been having little injuries and certain things. And like, I'm
[37:38] Speaker 4: just like, get ready for the season. Like, that's my thing. Like,
[37:41] Speaker 4: I understand it, but you get paid to play here.
[37:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:45] Speaker 7: Right.
[37:45] Speaker 4: You get, you get paid a King's ransom to play
[37:48] Speaker 4: here and you haven't been healthy over the last few years.
[37:50] Speaker 4: Let's concentrate on that aspect of it. Do what you
[37:53] Speaker 4: got to do. You die at your waist, all that train,
[37:55] Speaker 4: how you're training, but let's take some of these summers off.
[37:59] Speaker 11: Right.
[37:59] Speaker 1: Because you're, you're, you're wearing a tent leading up to
[38:02] Speaker 1: this and, So.
[38:03] Speaker 3: There was reports he took like a month off just
[38:05] Speaker 3: to concentrate on his body, wasn't doing any arm work.
[38:07] Speaker 4: But then if he's playing all his basketball, right, and
[38:09] Speaker 4: before the season, he's going to have to take some
[38:11] Speaker 4: time off, right?
[38:12] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[38:12] Speaker 4: Then if he takes half as much time off, then
[38:14] Speaker 4: all the work that he's done to work on his
[38:16] Speaker 4: body and all that, so it's.
[38:20] Speaker 5: That, right?
[38:21] Speaker 1: Sonny, I see you shaking your head. Same thing like Embiid. Yes,
[38:24] Speaker 1: same thing like Joel.
[38:25] Speaker 5: Luka Doncic came in the game playing basketball every day.
[38:28] Speaker 5: That's why he looked the way he looked when he
[38:29] Speaker 5: came in. He was playing all the time. When he
[38:32] Speaker 5: got comfortable is when he got here long enough to
[38:34] Speaker 5: know that I ain't really got to play all the
[38:36] Speaker 5: time because I'm killing them how I am.
[38:38] Speaker 1: He got comfortable.
[38:39] Speaker 5: He got complacent. He stopped doing what he used to do.
[38:42] Speaker 5: This gave him a new backpack to go back home
[38:46] Speaker 5: and know that they don't think I can get back
[38:47] Speaker 5: to where I used to be.
[38:49] Speaker 1: That's going to play. I got to get back into
[38:52] Speaker 1: playing shape.
[38:52] Speaker 5: If I play, play, play, play, play, going into the
[38:55] Speaker 5: season is going to be a cakewalk because I've been playing. Now,
[38:58] Speaker 5: risking injury, yeah, I get all of that, but that's
[39:00] Speaker 5: the whole thing that makes you tough when you do play.
[39:03] Speaker 1: That's what made us resilient. That's what made us durable
[39:05] Speaker 1: is we played all the time.
[39:07] Speaker 5: Yeah, we get the ice. Yeah, we get to take
[39:09] Speaker 5: a little weak rest, but look, it's back at it.
[39:11] Speaker 5: Ain't no taking no time off. That's when your muscles
[39:13] Speaker 5: get weak. That's when it's harder to get back. I
[39:16] Speaker 5: ain't got to get ready. I'm always ready. I ain't
[39:23] Speaker 5: got to get ready. We're always ready. Not everybody's body
[39:25] Speaker 5: is built like that. That's a certain mentality. So so
[39:28] Speaker 5: the mentality goes when you prepare your body and you
[39:32] Speaker 5: play all the time everybody body ain't built the same
[39:34] Speaker 5: you lift all the time everybody gets strong everybody body
[39:38] Speaker 5: stays strong you take it two three days off two
[39:41] Speaker 5: weeks off i hear you you gotta start back over
[39:43] Speaker 5: i hear you It's a cycle you don't need to do.
[39:45] Speaker 1: It's a mental thing.
[39:47] Speaker 5: I mean, he can still be in the gym playing.
[39:48] Speaker 5: He just don't need to be playing like.
[39:50] Speaker 1: He.
[39:50] Speaker 5: Don't need to be playing competitive. He can still work
[39:53] Speaker 5: out every day.
[39:54] Speaker 1: He can still do what you're doing, but it's just that, right?
[39:56] Speaker 1: Whatever he was doing for the last four years changed
[39:59] Speaker 1: that shit.
[40:00] Speaker 4: At a certain point in your career, certain things need
[40:02] Speaker 4: to be prioritized.
[40:03] Speaker 6: They didn't want to talk about the Lakers.
[40:05] Speaker 5: They dove right in.
[40:05] Speaker 6: You see that?
[40:06] Speaker 1: That's generally how things go here in the arena.
[40:08] Speaker 5: No, no, no.
[40:09] Speaker 1: If we're going to conversate, we're going to conversate. I'm
[40:11] Speaker 1: not going to not talk about it.
[40:13] Speaker 4: I'm not going to not engage because we're talking. They
[40:17] Speaker 4: know how I feel already, so it ain't no... The
[40:19] Speaker 4: fans know.
[40:21] Speaker 5: They call me a hater. You're a hater.
[40:23] Speaker 2: I'm a realist.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Right?
[40:28] Speaker 5: No, he probably.
[40:29] Speaker 4: When they start winning and doing something, listen, when they
[40:31] Speaker 4: start winning and doing something, I'll talk more positive.
[40:34] Speaker 1: I hear you.
[40:34] Speaker 4: Until y'all... Listen, and one thing for sure, he know,
[40:38] Speaker 4: y'all better avoid motherfucking number 15 in Denver, Colorado, because
[40:41] Speaker 4: y'all can't do nothing with him, so.
[40:43] Speaker 1: That's all I've been saying. That's all I've been saying
[40:45] Speaker 1: as of late.
[40:46] Speaker 5: He just go... He open a daycare. He just stat line.
[40:48] Speaker 1: He open a daycare right down on Chick Heron Way.
[40:51] Speaker 2: He gonna fill up the stat line.
[40:53] Speaker 5: Ain't no question about it.
[40:54] Speaker 1: Down on Chick Hearn.
[40:55] Speaker 5: That's all he is.
[40:56] Speaker 6: Walking bucket and rebound. I don't even know how they
[40:58] Speaker 6: let him. He can't jump over a book.
[41:00] Speaker 4: He can't jump over a Saturday's newspaper, but he burping
[41:03] Speaker 4: babies out this bitch.
[41:04] Speaker 1: Not for long. But Luca, he is the thing that
[41:09] Speaker 1: y'all need to build around. I agree. Moving forward.
[41:12] Speaker 4: I just think certain things at a certain point in
[41:14] Speaker 4: your career... when certain things have been going on the
[41:17] Speaker 4: last few years, need to be prioritized. Like I said
[41:19] Speaker 4: about Joel Embiid, I'm going to say the same thing
[41:20] Speaker 4: about Luke. Some of these guys, I just think you
[41:23] Speaker 4: need to prioritize your NBA career.
[41:26] Speaker 1: And get all the way right, and then let's.
[41:30] Speaker 6: So you think if you're playing too much hoops, because.
[41:34] Speaker 1: Or not playing enough. I don't think Joel plays enough.
[41:37] Speaker 5: Because growing up, growing up.
[41:39] Speaker 6: All I used to see was everybody getting run in
[41:42] Speaker 6: the summertime all day long.
[41:43] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[41:44] Speaker 1: Is that any different?
[41:45] Speaker 5: Is that any different? He's saying like playing for your country.
[41:48] Speaker 1: But how is that any different?
[41:51] Speaker 4: It's a big difference, man, because it means you're playing
[41:55] Speaker 4: harder for your country than you actually are playing for
[41:58] Speaker 4: the NBA team. He is playing hard and gives more
[42:02] Speaker 4: care about that situation because it means something more to him.
[42:06] Speaker 1: It means something.
[42:07] Speaker 5: That's the biggest incentive right now is.
[42:09] Speaker 1: That means something to him. Y'all say I can't play defense.
[42:13] Speaker 1: That's home run. That can't play defense.
[42:15] Speaker 5: No, he can't play defense. So how am I going
[42:17] Speaker 5: to get better playing defense? You can go up to
[42:19] Speaker 5: UCLA and play against the pros.
[42:20] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, though. That's still the same thing, though.
[42:22] Speaker 1: But I still have to play. Yeah, I'm with him.
[42:25] Speaker 2: He's still playing.
[42:27] Speaker 1: All we're saying is you got to play more. You're
[42:29] Speaker 1: working on stuff up there.
[42:30] Speaker 5: You can't work on defense without running.
[42:32] Speaker 4: You're working on stuff up there. You're not going up
[42:34] Speaker 4: there taking it serious. You want to, like, you're working on, like,
[42:39] Speaker 4: you work out in the morning, you do your workout
[42:41] Speaker 4: at 9, whatever your workout time is, you leave wherever
[42:44] Speaker 4: you work out, go there, get loose again, and you
[42:46] Speaker 4: go in there and working on your shit in there.
[42:48] Speaker 4: That ain't him playing for his home country.
[42:51] Speaker 1: But he can't work on it at home?
[42:52] Speaker 5: That's what he's doing over there, yes. That's exactly what
[42:55] Speaker 5: he's doing over there.
[42:56] Speaker 4: When they start the Europe, whatever he's playing this summer,
[42:58] Speaker 4: he's going to play harder.
[43:00] Speaker 1: It means something.
[43:00] Speaker 5: That's good.
[43:01] Speaker 7: Yeah, because he has to keep dominating over there. The
[43:03] Speaker 7: younger version of Luka, I'm with y'all, yes.
[43:07] Speaker 4: But the last few years, he's dealt with injuries and
[43:09] Speaker 4: certain things in his NBA career.
[43:11] Speaker 6: All of those.
[43:12] Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying.
[43:13] Speaker 4: Listen, at certain times of your career, let's prioritize your
[43:18] Speaker 4: career is what I'm saying. I'm not, listen, yes, need
[43:21] Speaker 4: to play all these things.
[43:22] Speaker 5: Absolutely. I hear y'all.
[43:23] Speaker 4: But when you, this is your job that you, let's
[43:30] Speaker 4: prioritize that.
[43:31] Speaker 5: That's the reason he got hurt. Working out, your diet,
[43:34] Speaker 5: all that. Yes, that's part of it.
[43:35] Speaker 1: I get it. Playing for your country is important. I
[43:38] Speaker 1: understand that.
[43:39] Speaker 4: But when that starts, he's going to rev it up.
[43:42] Speaker 5: Right?
[43:44] Speaker 1: But let's... And they practice it two times a day. Yeah,
[43:47] Speaker 1: so it's a lot. I don't understand. So you have
[43:50] Speaker 1: no time to even work on.
[43:51] Speaker 5: Your body like he said.
[43:52] Speaker 1: You work.
[43:53] Speaker 2: Listen.
[43:53] Speaker 5: The reason he was hurt is because he got away
[43:55] Speaker 5: from the regiment. He's getting back into the Olympics.
[44:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, but they got bounced.
[44:06] Speaker 5: Didn't they have to qualify to play in the Olympics?
[44:08] Speaker 1: What are you saying?
[44:09] Speaker 7: They did not qualify for the Olympics.
[44:12] Speaker 2: They didn't qualify.
[44:13] Speaker 1: He got fat.
[44:14] Speaker 5: They didn't qualify for the Olympics.
[44:16] Speaker 7: These are obvious things. These are things that happen. The
[44:19] Speaker 7: Luka that came in, that was skinny Luka. I like
[44:21] Speaker 7: the fact that he's playing because I feel like losing weight.
[44:31] Speaker 6: It's going to help his back because his back problems
[44:33] Speaker 6: because he was overweight. That's what I think. I ain't
[44:35] Speaker 6: no doctor, but just naturally, that's what I think. When
[44:38] Speaker 6: player athletes are heavier than what they should be, they
[44:41] Speaker 6: get back issues and hammy issues. And those were his problems.
[44:45] Speaker 6: Now he's slimmed down, so maybe that helps him where
[44:47] Speaker 6: he won't have those issues when he comes back to
[44:49] Speaker 6: us in October.
[44:50] Speaker 5: So the calf strain, shoulder, the calf.
[44:52] Speaker 6: If he stays slim, Jim, he probably won't have that issue.
[44:59] Speaker 4: So you don't want to know what probably works? Probably
[45:03] Speaker 4: works with hope. And hope, chance, and potential.
[45:06] Speaker 3: But Keyshawn, we know you got to run. We really
[45:08] Speaker 3: appreciate you pulling up to the arena. We're going to
[45:10] Speaker 3: be on the lookout. No, I ain't been to strip club, man.
[45:12] Speaker 1: I don't do that. Chance, potential, probably, all of them.
[45:16] Speaker 4: That's where all of them work.
[45:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, they got a chance.
[45:18] Speaker 1: It is a probably. And they got potential.
[45:20] Speaker 5: And they got hope.
[45:20] Speaker 1: And they got hope.
[45:21] Speaker 7: So get your dollar bills ready. And me and going
[45:25] Speaker 7: there with holes. But Keyshawn, you know you got to remember,
[45:28] Speaker 7: what's the name of your podcast dropping on the 30th?
[45:31] Speaker 2: All Facts, No Breaks.
[45:33] Speaker 1: Okay, All Facts, No Breaks coming on the 30th. Every
[45:36] Speaker 1: single Monday, it'll drop throughout the summer.
[45:40] Speaker 3: Well, we got Keyshawn Johnson. We appreciate you pulling up
[45:42] Speaker 3: at Gil's Arena. Dorsey High School, also known as Dorky
[45:49] Speaker 3: in some circles. I would never say it. Nah, man,
[45:51] Speaker 3: don't get beat up. I would never say it.
[45:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we don't play that about the D-House.
[45:56] Speaker 5: Don't get beat up.
[45:57] Speaker 1: The D-House is like a straight cry. That's them right there. Oh,
[46:02] Speaker 1: that's Slim shit. He looking like Luca. Damn, that's that
[46:05] Speaker 1: Luca shit.
[46:05] Speaker 6: Pac over there before they took him out.
[46:08] Speaker 5: I know. Beautiful. Wow.
[46:10] Speaker 1: It's crazy. All right. Y'all be good, man.
[46:13] Speaker 6: Thanks.
[46:13] Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Legendary. All right, baby. Keyshawn Johnson made his
[46:18] Speaker 1: first appearance in the arena.
[46:19] Speaker 5: Hopefully. Not his last.
[46:22] Speaker 3: We had a spirited Luka discussion. Apparently, we didn't want
[46:24] Speaker 3: to talk Lakers. Then we talked Lakers to Fishman.
[46:26] Speaker 1: We're going to talk them. I mean, you know, we can.
[46:28] Speaker 1: We talk Luka action.
[46:29] Speaker 5: I'm working the phones.
[46:30] Speaker 3: We talk Luka action. I know Rob Palenka's cousin. I said,
[46:33] Speaker 3: make the move, Rob. We need Canyon on the Lakers side.
[46:35] Speaker 3: So you know what it's going to take? We need
[46:36] Speaker 3: Canyon on the Lakers side.
[46:37] Speaker 5: We know what it's going to take.
[46:39] Speaker 1: We know what it's going to take. But let's keep
[46:41] Speaker 1: things moving.
[46:41] Speaker 3: So with the NBA season over, we're trying something a
[46:44] Speaker 3: little different with our partner packs on the Underdog app.
[46:47] Speaker 3: Instead of one partner pack from an individual each day,
[46:49] Speaker 3: the crew will each submit one pick they like for
[46:51] Speaker 3: that night, and we'll make that partner pack for the day.
[46:54] Speaker 3: So Gilbrand and Nick Kane and Rashad are sending one
[46:56] Speaker 3: pick each per day.
[46:57] Speaker 1: So here are the rules of the competition.
[46:59] Speaker 3: If talent doesn't submit a pick, they lose the pick
[47:01] Speaker 3: for that day and take a loss. These must be
[47:03] Speaker 3: original picks from the underdog app. So no buying points
[47:05] Speaker 3: up or down. We're trying to keep it authentic and
[47:07] Speaker 3: legit for y'all. We'll tally up the individual picks. A
[47:10] Speaker 3: guy with the highest percentage of accurate picks will receive
[47:11] Speaker 3: a large sum of underdog bread before we take our
[47:14] Speaker 3: summer hiatus in a few weeks.
[47:16] Speaker 1: We'll move to underdog. So let's take a look at
[47:18] Speaker 1: today's partner pack.
[47:20] Speaker 4: Jordan Poole traded to the Pelicans for CJ McCollum.
[47:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, we did.
[47:24] Speaker 3: We did get some breaking news too. Jordan Poole has
[47:25] Speaker 3: been traded. But let's take a look at the partner pack.
[47:28] Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that in a little bit.
[47:29] Speaker 3: Let's look at the partner pack on the underdog app.
[47:31] Speaker 3: So we got Corey Seager, higher 1.5 hits, runs, and
[47:34] Speaker 3: RBIs combined. That's coming from Kenya. Shohei Otani, higher. 5 runs.
[47:38] Speaker 3: That is a gill pick. Brittany Griner, higher 5.5 rebounds.
[47:42] Speaker 3: That's coming from Swaggy P. Angel Reese, lower 11.5 rebounds.
[47:47] Speaker 3: That's coming from Money Making Sonny. And Skyler Diggins, higher
[47:51] Speaker 3: 17.5 points. That's coming from our very own Mr. B.
[47:56] Speaker 3: If you use a partner pack, it has been boosted.
[47:58] Speaker 3: You can win 15 times. Your bread, we got a
[48:01] Speaker 3: good mix. MLB, WNBA. Never wrong to roll with Shohei.
[48:08] Speaker 3: Scottie Diggs got a big one tonight. Against Tomb Raider.
[48:13] Speaker 1: We asked the chat.
[48:14] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[48:16] Speaker 3: Once again, chat, not riding with you guys. 48% of
[48:19] Speaker 3: the chat, 47 now, is riding with the Pigs.
[48:22] Speaker 1: Wait, back up to 48.
[48:22] Speaker 5: 52% fading.
[48:22] Speaker 1: Let's stop it now for it. Before it goes down.
[48:29] Speaker 7: But if you like that partner pack, go ahead and
[48:31] Speaker 7: use it on the Underdog app. If you don't have Underdog,
[48:32] Speaker 7: download the Underdog app. Use promo code GIL to get
[48:34] Speaker 7: up to.
[48:34] Speaker 3: $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So let's
[48:38] Speaker 3: move on to the world champions of the world, the
[48:41] Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Thunder. Ladies and gentlemen, you see the arena decorated,
[48:44] Speaker 3: looking beautiful, looking fantastic. So we have reports that Gilbert
[48:48] Speaker 3: has decided to come to his show.
[48:50] Speaker 1: The arena is thriving. Let us welcome in the fans
[48:52] Speaker 1: of the Oklahoma Thunder. The city thought it was the
[48:55] Speaker 1: world champions.
[48:56] Speaker 2: Of the world.
[48:58] Speaker 5: Getting lit.
[49:00] Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
[49:03] Speaker 5: Uh-oh, come down.
[49:04] Speaker 2: How y'all doing? Where the music at?
[49:08] Speaker 5: Hey, yo. Hey, yo.
[49:12] Speaker 1: Hey.
[49:12] Speaker 5: Damn, all that.
[49:13] Speaker 7: Hey, I know you spread that champagne on these motherfucking cars.
[49:17] Speaker 1: It's going to be a fucking problem.
[49:19] Speaker 2: Hey, hey. a fucking problem. Hey, hey.
[49:22] Speaker 5: Hey, I don't give a fuck.
[49:24] Speaker 2: We ain't wasting no liquor on.
[49:27] Speaker 5: You, nigga. We ain't wasting no liquor, boy. Oh, nigga.
[49:33] Speaker 1: I was stuck, nigga.
[49:35] Speaker 5: Let's go, Pepe.
[49:38] Speaker 12: Gilbert Arenas and Swaggy P.
[49:51] Speaker 7: Gilbert Arenas and Swaggy P have returned to the arena
[49:56] Speaker 7: in an ode to OKC, one of their former legends,
[49:58] Speaker 7: drinking James Harden Prosecco.
[50:01] Speaker 2: The Harden, baby.
[50:02] Speaker 3: You got the James Harden Prosecco, former Thunder. Swaggy, you
[50:07] Speaker 3: have the blob dog. Do not want to know what
[50:08] Speaker 3: you're going to do with that dog before or after
[50:09] Speaker 3: the show. It's a party. Do not want to know.
[50:12] Speaker 3: I don't need no glasses. Looking like Andy.
[50:15] Speaker 1: The sun will come out.
[50:15] Speaker 5: They drank some kiss last night.
[50:18] Speaker 1: I didn't need no glasses. Yeah, we left the parade
[50:22] Speaker 1: to come here. How does it feel to be a champion, dude?
[50:25] Speaker 5: Hey, man, listen.
[50:26] Speaker 1: It's going crazy out there. You seen it?
[50:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, you seen it? I was watching.
[50:30] Speaker 1: Applebee's was lit. The skillet was good.
[50:35] Speaker 5: Swaggy. A lot of white women out there. I see
[50:37] Speaker 5: you brewing one back.
[50:38] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[50:39] Speaker 5: Brewing one back. I'm saying right here.
[50:44] Speaker 1: Did not know any of us.
[50:44] Speaker 5: I knew you were like this. I knew you were
[50:47] Speaker 5: like this. Can you tap that white woman? It used
[50:50] Speaker 5: to be yours.
[50:53] Speaker 3: It was not designated as special work, so free for whoever.
[50:58] Speaker 3: The James Harden Prosecco in the arena. Swaggy Gill. We
[51:01] Speaker 3: got the Thunder. World Champions of the World had their
[51:03] Speaker 3: championship parade today. So let's talk about a little bit.
[51:07] Speaker 3: Like I said, Thunder was celebrating out in OKC. First
[51:10] Speaker 3: ever title in franchise history, which includes the second youngest
[51:14] Speaker 3: team ever to win a chip, showing their low liquor tolerance.
[51:17] Speaker 7: That has transferred over here to the arena. We got
[51:19] Speaker 7: a hot drink. We'll take a breathalyzer. We the first group.
[51:24] Speaker 7: We know how to pop them bottles.
[51:26] Speaker 3: You didn't need the tutorial from Alex Caruso. So OKC
[51:29] Speaker 3: has been celebrating ever since they won the title. So
[51:32] Speaker 3: here's Finals MVP SGA speaking to Robin Roberts on Good
[51:35] Speaker 3: Morning America the morning after winning his first ever championship.
[51:39] Speaker 5: Jay Gilgis Alexander, give it up all for SGA. Getting
[51:44] Speaker 5: up and joining us this morning. Oh my God.
[51:46] Speaker 6: How does NBA champions have a good ring to you, SGA?
[51:53] Speaker 9: Yeah, it's everything I imagined it to be. The opportunity
[51:58] Speaker 9: has been amazing, and I'm just, I'm happy and I'm
[52:01] Speaker 9: blessed to.
[52:02] Speaker 5: Be a part of it.
[52:03] Speaker 2: Okay, have you been to sleep, Shay?
[52:04] Speaker 5: Have you been, because he's a little asleep. Did you
[52:07] Speaker 5: get any rest since last night?
[52:11] Speaker 9: I got some rest, not as much as I'd like,
[52:13] Speaker 9: but hey, you only live once.
[52:15] Speaker 5: That's right, and you are living your best life right now.
[52:19] Speaker 1: YOLO, as the young kid said.
[52:21] Speaker 3: You guys respect SGA for going on Good Morning America
[52:24] Speaker 3: on Little to No Sleep after winning his first ship,
[52:25] Speaker 3: had his media obligation.
[52:28] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No, you can go.
[52:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. Nah, that's big. It should have been.
[52:31] Speaker 5: It should have been still a party. You should be
[52:33] Speaker 5: looking just like that. That's how you should be looking.
[52:35] Speaker 7: Party should have been in the background still, shit. That's
[52:39] Speaker 7: how it should be looking.
[52:42] Speaker 5: Shades on. Yeah, this should have been what is absolute.
[52:45] Speaker 1: That's what, 6 a.m.? Yeah, he probably didn't go to
[52:47] Speaker 1: sleep yet.
[52:47] Speaker 5: He probably was still partying.
[52:49] Speaker 1: Oh, we got an interview right now. It's everywhere.
[52:51] Speaker 5: Look at it. Man.
[52:51] Speaker 8: Man.
[52:56] Speaker 5: You feel that shit in your pores. It's everywhere. I know.
[52:59] Speaker 4: I can feel it. He got on sweatshirt and boxers.
[53:04] Speaker 4: Trying not to.
[53:05] Speaker 5: You there for a couple hours, too.
[53:08] Speaker 1: Where?
[53:08] Speaker 10: After the championship. You got to take the championship pictures.
[53:11] Speaker 10: Everybody just drinking, drinking.
[53:13] Speaker 1: Oh, they weren't. They wasn't. They weren't drinking? No. A
[53:17] Speaker 1: lot of leftover bottles in the locker room.
[53:21] Speaker 5: And so much champagne, that shit just all over you.
[53:24] Speaker 5: They didn't do none of that. It's going to get
[53:26] Speaker 5: in your body still. Oh, just for being on your skin? Yeah,
[53:30] Speaker 5: it's everywhere, like everywhere you turn. Oh, no, it was
[53:32] Speaker 5: a blessing I didn't win it. Listen, good Lord.
[53:37] Speaker 7: I would have been on somebody's journey somewhere.
[53:41] Speaker 5: Reviving. The good thing.
[53:44] Speaker 1: I can't get my picture, man. I'm surprised ain't nobody.
[53:48] Speaker 1: It's not like they'll tell us anywhere.
[53:51] Speaker 7: There had to be some people in the 80s and
[53:54] Speaker 7: the 90s that passed out from drinking.
[53:55] Speaker 5: I was at DG's and Deshaun.
[53:58] Speaker 7: Dallas won it.
[54:00] Speaker 5: When Deshaun walked.
[54:01] Speaker 4: In that motherfucking DG's in Dallas after they won it. Listen,
[54:07] Speaker 4: he looked up, wanted to speak to me, and I
[54:10] Speaker 4: was hitting that.
[54:12] Speaker 1: Motherfucker like this.
[54:15] Speaker 5: Everybody was mad.
[54:16] Speaker 2: Yes, at one of the houses.
[54:19] Speaker 5: Listen, and that's the way you should be. My bad.
[54:22] Speaker 4: You know, strip club got that certain ambiance. It was
[54:25] Speaker 4: a little dark in that motherfucker.
[54:26] Speaker 7: He got comfortable using that motherfucker.
[54:29] Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the way I would have been.
[54:31] Speaker 1: So there's cake for the underside of the couch. I
[54:34] Speaker 1: probably would have been in my uniform.
[54:35] Speaker 5: Huh?
[54:35] Speaker 1: Like three days later.
[54:36] Speaker 5: Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[54:37] Speaker 4: Like three days later, I still would have had my
[54:39] Speaker 4: uniform on.
[54:39] Speaker 5: First of all, the work would have been with me. Oh, listen, bro.
[54:44] Speaker 5: Talk for me, baby.
[54:47] Speaker 1: Tell him what I'm thinking. Tell him what I'm thinking.
[54:51] Speaker 5: Hey man, this man was there. That's what I'm saying.
[54:55] Speaker 5: I'm going to wake up in the morning.
[55:00] Speaker 4: He was in the parking lot a couple times. Went
[55:02] Speaker 4: in there and had to pay the bill for him.
[55:04] Speaker 4: This shit was amazing. Came up a little lighter. It
[55:07] Speaker 4: was amazing to see.
[55:08] Speaker 5: Yeah, they said.
[55:09] Speaker 4: That he partied that way after they won. I was like, yeah,
[55:11] Speaker 4: that's the way the shirt do.
[55:12] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
[55:12] Speaker 1: Did he have his How My Dirt Taste? Did he
[55:14] Speaker 1: have that shirt on?
[55:15] Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.
[55:17] Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
[55:17] Speaker 1: How My Dirt Taste. I remember. It was a LeBron.
[55:20] Speaker 1: How My Dirt Taste.
[55:20] Speaker 5: How My Dirt Taste.
[55:21] Speaker 8: Wow.
[55:21] Speaker 1: He was listening, bro. Remember, there was three Wizards on
[55:24] Speaker 1: that team.
[55:24] Speaker 5: Oh, man.
[55:25] Speaker 1: And Brendan Haywood and Karan.
[55:26] Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
[55:27] Speaker 3: How did it feel for you to see those three
[55:29] Speaker 3: wizards go on to get championship experience?
[55:31] Speaker 1: It was amazing.
[55:32] Speaker 7: It was like revenge. Did you feel like... No, I
[55:35] Speaker 7: was salty. They won, but they beat LeBron. And that
[55:38] Speaker 7: was like the whole mission at that point. Did you
[55:40] Speaker 7: talk to them in the afternoon?
[55:41] Speaker 5: Hell yeah. Let's go. Gosh, man.
[55:44] Speaker 1: So you felt like you won a chip too.
[55:46] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[55:47] Speaker 1: It was like how that dirt tastes. How that dirt tastes.
[55:50] Speaker 1: Like dirt. I'm jerking the whiskey.
[55:52] Speaker 5: Out of the match. That shit is like winning. Is
[55:54] Speaker 5: that what that is?
[55:55] Speaker 7: That's the winning?
[55:56] Speaker 5: That's the winning.
[55:57] Speaker 2: It's a little something.
[56:12] Speaker 1: You dropping in there? They wouldn't know nothing about that
[56:14] Speaker 1: over there.
[56:15] Speaker 5: Tell me about it. Sprinkle it a little bit.
[56:19] Speaker 1: Local Little League champion. Local Little League champion. It was
[56:25] Speaker 1: champions on the couch. Legally safe. Legally safe.
[56:33] Speaker 5: Oh, man.
[56:33] Speaker 7: That cake is fire, bro.
[56:37] Speaker 5: I had to put it down because I'm like, shit. Mr.
[56:40] Speaker 1: B had to put the cake down because it was
[56:42] Speaker 1: too much winning in the cake.
[56:43] Speaker 5: I'm like, man, this is the best cake they ever had.
[56:48] Speaker 1: So, brings me to my next question.
[56:51] Speaker 5: All the birthday cakes they be giving us in this.
[56:56] Speaker 3: So if you don't know, every time it's somebody's birthday
[56:58] Speaker 3: in the arena, they get a cake. Apparently this cake
[57:00] Speaker 3: much better than the cake that the rank and file
[57:02] Speaker 3: Gills Arena crew host gets.
[57:05] Speaker 1: For their services. But we saw how it turned up
[57:08] Speaker 1: as Jay was on his Good Morning America interview. We
[57:10] Speaker 1: saw how it turned up the Thunder War at the
[57:11] Speaker 1: championship parade. But what's the most partying you've done after
[57:14] Speaker 1: a win?
[57:17] Speaker 8: Um.
[57:18] Speaker 5: Mine is on the low level.
[57:20] Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know. No way. A million dollar party?
[57:22] Speaker 5: No, no, no. I didn't have fun. I didn't have
[57:25] Speaker 5: fun then. He said after a win.
[57:27] Speaker 1: After a win.
[57:28] Speaker 7: So we clinched a playoff. So we're in Jersey. So
[57:33] Speaker 7: we're playing Jersey and Knicks. So we clinched the playoffs.
[57:36] Speaker 7: And then after we clinched the playoffs, so this 0-4-0-5,
[57:41] Speaker 7: we decided to go out in New York. And then
[57:45] Speaker 7: never listened to an Indiana drinker. Um, Jerry Jeffries decided
[57:50] Speaker 7: he wanted to do a game called, uh, must take
[57:53] Speaker 7: every shot. They'll fill the table up. And then does
[57:56] Speaker 7: that sound like the point? It was basically 21 shots
[58:00] Speaker 7: of everything. That's some white boy fraternity.
[58:02] Speaker 1: Yeah. So you basically, whoever can get to the most,
[58:05] Speaker 1: whoever can take.
[58:05] Speaker 7: The most shots. So it started off like a long Island,
[58:08] Speaker 7: iced tea, lemon drops, grandma, yay. Patron Julio.
[58:13] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[58:14] Speaker 1: So, so I'm in there, you know, trying to hurry
[58:16] Speaker 1: up and get to the 10th.
[58:20] Speaker 7: Let's just say I was praying to Jesus that I
[58:23] Speaker 7: would never vow to.
[58:24] Speaker 5: Drink no more. I fell out the car. Yeah, I
[58:26] Speaker 5: was done. I threw up everywhere. Yeah, but I ain't
[58:29] Speaker 5: going to lie. It was fun. It was fun. Made
[58:32] Speaker 5: the playoffs for the first time.
[58:35] Speaker 1: Let's keep it on. It was on a low level.
[58:36] Speaker 1: Thunderside at the couch. Swaggy, what's the most partying you've
[58:39] Speaker 1: done after a win?
[58:41] Speaker 5: For sure after the championship.
[58:43] Speaker 1: When you brought your championship experience? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[58:46] Speaker 5: You know, it's because it was everywhere. I can say
[58:49] Speaker 5: my rookie year. I know. Every game.
[58:51] Speaker 6: First time near.
[58:52] Speaker 5: First time near. Every game. Well, yeah.
[58:55] Speaker 1: Every win was celebrating.
[58:57] Speaker 5: I had a good life.
[58:58] Speaker 1: I had a good life.
[58:59] Speaker 5: I had a good life.
[59:02] Speaker 10: But I just remember since I was, it was my
[59:06] Speaker 10: first time.
[59:06] Speaker 5: I was new to the team. They made me take shots.
[59:10] Speaker 10: For the same amount as how much we beat them by.
[59:14] Speaker 10: And I couldn't make it to that number. And I
[59:17] Speaker 10: just don't remember. Do you remember what the number was?
[59:19] Speaker 10: I think it was like 11, how much we beat
[59:22] Speaker 10: Cleveland by in that last game.
[59:23] Speaker 1: Oh, um, And I just couldn't get there, bro.
[59:28] Speaker 10: I remember that. Woke up thinking, how'd I get here?
[59:30] Speaker 10: How'd I get to my bed? At least you made
[59:33] Speaker 10: it to the bed. At least I made it home.
[59:35] Speaker 5: Hey, you did. No, that's a good one. But the
[59:39] Speaker 5: best one was... The 10-shot rule where you can't go out. Oh, yeah.
[59:42] Speaker 5: Rookie year in Chicago.
[59:44] Speaker 7: Yeah, no, not that one. You left and you grabbed
[59:47] Speaker 7: a whole new girl. That's a good win.
[59:49] Speaker 5: That's a good win. That's a good win.
[59:50] Speaker 1: That's a great win.
[59:51] Speaker 5: She thought she won. She thought she did.
[59:53] Speaker 1: But she replaced her that quick.
[59:54] Speaker 5: Huh.
[59:55] Speaker 1: I learned from the best, baby. Found some new work.
[59:57] Speaker 5: Always replace them.
[59:59] Speaker 7: Mr. B, most part of you have done it. I
[1:00:00] Speaker 7: don't think they're replaceable until you replace them.
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: Oh, jeez.
[1:00:04] Speaker 5: Oh, jeez.
[1:00:07] Speaker 10: He's still drinking.
[1:00:12] Speaker 5: He's still drinking.
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[1:00:16] Speaker 5: I would have to say.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: He's still reaching his quota of the hardened Prosecco.
[1:00:20] Speaker 13: I would have to say after a win in Toronto,
[1:00:22] Speaker 13: when I was drinking him, Club Paradise.
[1:00:25] Speaker 5: Oh, man.
[1:00:25] Speaker 13: Next thing you know, I just ended up back at
[1:00:28] Speaker 13: the airport.
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: Didn't even know how he got there. Good night, though.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: Ended up at the airport.
[1:00:33] Speaker 5: He looked like a wild nigga.
[1:00:34] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:00:34] Speaker 5: You had some.
[1:00:38] Speaker 10: Brandon got on the mic and started kissing everybody in
[1:00:41] Speaker 10: the club.
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: I said, man, let's get out of here. That was
[1:00:45] Speaker 1: at the date party, huh? That was during the date.
[1:00:47] Speaker 5: I got everybody. I'm buying more bottles than y'all.
[1:00:51] Speaker 10: I don't want to say the name you said he
[1:00:53] Speaker 10: was buying more bottles than he was an L.A.
[1:00:55] Speaker 5: Rapper he said he had more everything than him L.A.
[1:01:00] Speaker 5: rapper felt disrespected that was cold.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: Let's jump to this side of the couch what's the
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: most partying.
[1:01:07] Speaker 5: You've done after a win after a win that was a.
[1:01:09] Speaker 4: Win specifically after a win how about just in general Oh,
[1:01:19] Speaker 4: I had a lot of it. Yeah, I tell us.
[1:01:20] Speaker 5: Fucking shit.
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: I had a lot of it.
[1:01:23] Speaker 5: Because you was in New York, so tell us. Yeah.
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: Oh, no, the best part was my 30th birthday party.
[1:01:29] Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you were about to say AI. Oh, no, no, no.
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: Mine was my 30th. I flew everybody from Denver to Miami.
[1:01:37] Speaker 5: For New Year's.
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: What airline or was it PJ?
[1:01:40] Speaker 5: PJ.
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you're on the 34th. No, I'm always curious.
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, PJ's on, you know, so, yeah, for my 34th,
[1:01:44] Speaker 4: we flew teammates and everybody flew to Denver, PJ to Miami, partied.
[1:01:50] Speaker 5: For New Year's.
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: Your game was on the 2nd or the 3rd?
[1:01:54] Speaker 5: One, yeah, yeah, one of them. Yes, yes, yes.
[1:01:57] Speaker 1: 2nd or the 3rd, yeah, absolutely.
[1:01:59] Speaker 4: Might have been the 3rd. Yeah, so, yeah, it was... Yeah,
[1:02:03] Speaker 4: free liquor for everybody. Like, you go to the bar
[1:02:05] Speaker 4: and order a drink, they was giving you bottles.
[1:02:07] Speaker 5: They wasn't just... Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.
[1:02:09] Speaker 4: You drunk, whatever you went to the bar and ordered,
[1:02:12] Speaker 4: we gave you a bottle of it.
[1:02:13] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, that's big money. Yeah, that's big money right there.
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: That seems... Yeah. Oh, yeah, we had, listen, black.
[1:02:18] Speaker 4: Swans and shit and tortoises walking around and belly dancers.
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: There's a fucking tortoise walking around. Oh, yeah, it was, yeah,
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: it was one of them. Very slow. Yeah, like your
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: Million Dollar Party, but it was just in the middle
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: of the season.
[1:02:31] Speaker 5: I never had no tortoises.
[1:02:35] Speaker 4: Just in the middle of the season. So we played,
[1:02:40] Speaker 4: got on the plane, and left. So yeah.
[1:02:44] Speaker 5: Tortoise?
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, all kind of shit in there, motherfucker.
[1:02:48] Speaker 5: A tortoise, if you will.
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, not no turtle.
[1:02:50] Speaker 5: Tortoise. Tortoise.
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: A tortoise. I want a tortoise. Yeah, it was shit
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: swimming in the pool, all kind of shit, bruh. Let's
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: move over. Like your million dollar, but I didn't spend
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: a million though.
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: Money making Sonny, what's the most partying that you've done
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: after a win?
[1:03:14] Speaker 5: College. Just beat UConn. They was number one in the country.
[1:03:21] Speaker 5: They went on to win the championship that year. But
[1:03:24] Speaker 5: I had the game winner. Man, I got so crazy drunk.
[1:03:32] Speaker 5: So many white girls. And all I remember is getting
[1:03:39] Speaker 5: out of the car, hitting one of the railings from like,
[1:03:43] Speaker 5: you know, when you're parking railings, you're trying to get
[1:03:46] Speaker 5: out of the event type shit. It was outside of
[1:03:48] Speaker 5: our dorm. Boom, I hit that shit. I knew I
[1:03:52] Speaker 5: was drunk at that moment, like.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Snapped out of it?
[1:03:54] Speaker 5: Nah.
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: Snapped into it. Snapped right back. Snapped further into it. Yeah,
[1:03:57] Speaker 1: further into it. Okay. So the next day, we supposed
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: to have practice.
[1:04:01] Speaker 5: I'm thinking the end, that was the end of, like,
[1:04:03] Speaker 5: my career was, like, that was culmination for me.
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: I blacked out.
[1:04:07] Speaker 5: Like, I was literally celebrating, like, we beat UConn. Ain't
[1:04:10] Speaker 5: nothing more in the country. And you had practice the
[1:04:12] Speaker 5: next day?
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: Next day, bro.
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:04:15] Speaker 5: That's cold. Oh, my Lord, bro. I had to go until,
[1:04:18] Speaker 5: because I told the trainer, like, yo, I cannot go today.
[1:04:21] Speaker 5: There's no way. He's like, yo. You're going to have
[1:04:24] Speaker 5: to tell coach.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: But you're telling the trainer to tell coach.
[1:04:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling the trainer I just can't go.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: But you can't go, you can't go, right? Like I'm
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: sick or whatever.
[1:04:33] Speaker 5: He's like, nah, you're going to have to go because
[1:04:35] Speaker 5: I know I can smell it on you and all
[1:04:37] Speaker 5: that shit. And I'm like, man, I got to go
[1:04:40] Speaker 5: tell coach. But I'm feeling like everybody know. Like we
[1:04:45] Speaker 5: just killed, you know what I'm saying? But we do
[1:04:47] Speaker 5: have practice tomorrow.
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: So that shit was kind of nasty though.
[1:04:51] Speaker 5: So I had to. I had to run. You made
[1:04:53] Speaker 5: me run. You made me run. It didn't make me
[1:04:56] Speaker 5: run that practice, but the rest of the, like, at
[1:04:58] Speaker 5: the end of practices, I had to run and shit.
[1:05:00] Speaker 4: Yo, so, you know, it was one of them clinching situations, too, though.
[1:05:04] Speaker 4: We clinched in Jersey. Actually, we clinched and we had, like,
[1:05:08] Speaker 4: a few days in between the game. We went to
[1:05:10] Speaker 4: Miami as a team, like, we, with the Nets. So,
[1:05:13] Speaker 4: we had, like, a few days in between, like, one
[1:05:15] Speaker 4: of them.
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:05:17] Speaker 5: So, we spent, like, three days in Miami. Niggas be like, yo,
[1:05:21] Speaker 5: why y'all here?
[1:05:21] Speaker 4: We was in Miami for like three days, bruh. And
[1:05:24] Speaker 4: I had to tell one of my teammates, hey man, listen,
[1:05:28] Speaker 4: when I, hey, The sun is up.
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: Like, huh?
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: I said, yo, we got to get out of here.
[1:05:34] Speaker 5: Like, no, give me five more minutes.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: It's one of them five more minutes. Five more minutes.
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: I'm still working on this. Yeah, I'm still. Like, no,
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: it's time to go. Check out time. Listen, the sun
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: is outside. Tupac.
[1:05:45] Speaker 5: That's how wild shit gets. I'm going to hit you after.
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: I hear my phone hit the ground.
[1:05:49] Speaker 5: Hit you when I get off.
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: Don't pay it no mind. I get to where we going. Fuck,
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: it's my phone at. You think back, like. I did
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: hear you hit the ground. I did hear you hit
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: the ground.
[1:06:02] Speaker 7: And somebody tell, hey, Jesus Christ, grown men throwing themselves
[1:06:07] Speaker 7: birthday parties.
[1:06:09] Speaker 5: Huh?
[1:06:10] Speaker 7: You ever had your girlfriend or your friend throw you
[1:06:13] Speaker 7: a birthday party?
[1:06:15] Speaker 5: Didn't end up so well, huh? If you want your
[1:06:17] Speaker 5: birthday to go right, you make sure you go to
[1:06:20] Speaker 5: a party.
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: We millionaires.
[1:06:22] Speaker 5: We're going to have our friends throw in the backyard
[1:06:24] Speaker 5: party for it.
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: Hot dogs and balloons.
[1:06:27] Speaker 5: Come on, man. Why do they need to be hot dogs?
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: Hot dogs. But yes. Fire wings. Kool-Aid.
[1:06:31] Speaker 7: Who can throw a better party than the person with.
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: All the money?
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: We couldn't get the ribs. We wanted to get.
[1:06:46] Speaker 7: The hot dogs and burgers, man.
[1:06:50] Speaker 5: No ribs. Yeah.
[1:06:52] Speaker 4: So the part that you had for your, like, you
[1:06:54] Speaker 4: threw your, like, you couldn't have that kind of extravagant
[1:06:57] Speaker 4: if you left for somebody else, could you?
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: No.
[1:07:00] Speaker 1: Exactly. It's your money anyway. Hebrew.
[1:07:07] Speaker 5: What you gonna do? Let me get your credit card.
[1:07:10] Speaker 5: I bought you this. They don't know how to pay.
[1:07:16] Speaker 5: They don't know how to pay.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: So they don't do normal people shit, Gil?
[1:07:21] Speaker 7: No, and they don't understand. We give them Birkin bags.
[1:07:24] Speaker 7: They give us sweaters. Just think about it. We go
[1:07:29] Speaker 7: out there and spend $ 4, 800, 000.
[1:07:30] Speaker 5: Do you ever see us post any shit that's valuable?
[1:07:35] Speaker 5: So I have... If we do, it's ours.
[1:07:38] Speaker 4: Hold on, for this same birthday party that we're speaking of, right,
[1:07:40] Speaker 4: the mind I was talking about, my 30th, like, I
[1:07:43] Speaker 4: bought myself a car for my 30th birthday, right?
[1:07:45] Speaker 1: Rolls Royce. No, a Maybach, right?
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: They put the bitch on a plane.
[1:07:51] Speaker 4: And flew it to Miami for me, so it was
[1:07:53] Speaker 4: at my party. My cake was designed like the Maybach.
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: Like, so who's gonna... Let's, like, let's... No, you wanted
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: the Maybach cake. No, there was the thing like I
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: had ordered and the people that were throwing the party
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: for me.
[1:08:08] Speaker 5: I thought I was.
[1:08:10] Speaker 1: No, you did yours.
[1:08:10] Speaker 5: Nah, you killed yours.
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: Did you like the Maybach?
[1:08:13] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:08:13] Speaker 6: Not had him.
[1:08:14] Speaker 5: Fly to me.
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: You bought two of them though.
[1:08:17] Speaker 5: Yes, you bought two of them. Just to prove a point. Yes. Motherfucker. No,
[1:08:20] Speaker 5: he flew.
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: That means they put it in a cargo. They put
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: it in a cargo.
[1:08:23] Speaker 5: And anybody had a new car, you bought two of them.
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: If they was talking.
[1:08:27] Speaker 5: He bought two of them cars.
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: Just to show up.
[1:08:29] Speaker 5: Only because he was talking.
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: Talking shit, man. But no, he was just.
[1:08:31] Speaker 5: See, I'm with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:08:34] Speaker 4: See, I wouldn't say that. Yeah, see, I wouldn't say that.
[1:08:37] Speaker 4: So everybody show up with a new BMW.
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: I got this 745, 745, 760.
[1:08:41] Speaker 6: Like, yeah.
[1:08:42] Speaker 7: 760.
[1:08:42] Speaker 5: Like, yeah. Oh, y'all, that shit dope. That shit fire, man.
[1:08:46] Speaker 5: Let me see the inside of it. That shit nice.
[1:08:54] Speaker 5: That's what I said, man.
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: Listen, the locker room is an eagle tree, dog.
[1:08:57] Speaker 5: So, wait up. niggas up, man. Y'all been lining niggas up.
[1:09:03] Speaker 5: That's insane. So y'all in here looking at my shit like, Nah,
[1:09:12] Speaker 5: you been in the locker room. Hey, what's in there?
[1:09:14] Speaker 5: Open it up. I had the e-mail. I'm talking about
[1:09:16] Speaker 5: the show.
[1:09:16] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
[1:09:17] Speaker 5: You got some weekend. Man, I better not see you
[1:09:19] Speaker 5: pull up in my shit and it look better than
[1:09:21] Speaker 5: my shit, man. No, you know what it do.
[1:09:23] Speaker 1: You know what it do.
[1:09:24] Speaker 5: Fuck me up, y'all. Pull up in my shit better
[1:09:26] Speaker 5: than my shit. And I'm like, just because you got
[1:09:28] Speaker 5: a bigger contract than me.
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: That's some fucked up.
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: Shit, man. We got the idea.
[1:09:34] Speaker 5: I got the original idea. This big ball in that arm. Yeah,
[1:09:38] Speaker 5: he got a 600, right?
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: I pull up in that motherfucking 65. Story of my life.
[1:09:43] Speaker 5: No, no.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Story of my fucking life, man.
[1:09:45] Speaker 7: I pull up in that box and that motherfucking nigga's like, oh,
[1:09:47] Speaker 7: that's what we doing.
[1:09:48] Speaker 5: I ain't never made enough money, man.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: I learned it from nigga. Listen, I thought I was
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: doing something.
[1:09:53] Speaker 5: J.K.
[1:09:53] Speaker 4: Pulled up in that motherfucking Aston Martin Vanquish.
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: I was like.
[1:10:00] Speaker 7: Oh, this 600 beers don't mean nothing. This is a
[1:10:03] Speaker 7: five-course meal.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: Five.
[1:10:05] Speaker 5: Five-course. We don't do three.
[1:10:09] Speaker 7: This is five. Somebody did it to me. I got
[1:10:13] Speaker 7: that 600, right?
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: Off the lot. The kid pull up. I'm like... Appointment only, nigga.
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: You sit on that motherfucker like this.
[1:10:22] Speaker 5: I'm like, ooh.
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: I thank my motherfucker. He show up with that motherfucker,
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: that big ass. I'm like, yeah, okay. All right, Jay.
[1:10:31] Speaker 7: There's a rookie contract and there's a $ 100 million contract.
[1:10:35] Speaker 5: I get it.
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: All I got was a Ciroc bottle. That was important
[1:10:42] Speaker 1: to know.
[1:10:42] Speaker 5: Back then, it was that coconut too, so I didn't
[1:10:45] Speaker 5: have to do nothing.
[1:10:46] Speaker 7: I didn't have to do nothing but drink it by myself,
[1:10:48] Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying?
[1:10:50] Speaker 5: Back then, it was Walking Dead. It was a Ciroc
[1:10:53] Speaker 5: with the Walking Dead. You know what I'm saying? I'm
[1:10:56] Speaker 5: chilling with the work, and we just working, man. Happy birthday.
[1:11:01] Speaker 5: You think you're doing something, but when your teammate pay
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: your tab, you're like, oh. Listen, yo, that's like, oh.
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we don't go nowhere with y'all. Yeah,
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: that's why. We stay in the room.
[1:11:12] Speaker 5: For a long time. Stay in the room.
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: Not going. So where y'all going?
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: I'm going over there.
[1:11:18] Speaker 5: When I found out I was paying for everything for
[1:11:21] Speaker 5: my birthday, I said, I'm not having no more birthdays. Period.
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: No money.
[1:11:26] Speaker 5: Ain't no reason. I can celebrate my Ciroc with my
[1:11:28] Speaker 5: work on my own. I'm not going to pay for
[1:11:30] Speaker 5: you to get your work on. And then niggas don't
[1:11:33] Speaker 5: even say thank you or nothing. They can pay for
[1:11:36] Speaker 5: whole outfits and everything, nigga. Nothing.
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: Bottle picks.
[1:11:40] Speaker 5: Shit. Extra beverage.
[1:11:42] Speaker 3: Drinking way more of the bottle than they would normally
[1:11:45] Speaker 3: put in.
[1:11:45] Speaker 1: It don't even matter. You know how niggas go. But
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we all had an experience.
[1:11:49] Speaker 5: What happened? Somebody showed up with some Ciroc now. Oh,
[1:11:55] Speaker 5: y'all was Ciroc boys.
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: That was y'all. Y'all were the Ciroc. Y'all were some
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: of the original Ciroc boys.
[1:12:01] Speaker 5: I was a white couch. It was incredible. It was incredible.
[1:12:03] Speaker 7: When you was on your way out, I missed them
[1:12:06] Speaker 7: white couch.
[1:12:06] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: Them Ciroc boys. The Incredible Hulk. Why did we drink those?
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: I'm curious. What's that? The Incredible Hulk. Because hypnotic was
[1:12:20] Speaker 1: just what they did. But it was green and murky.
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: It didn't look like a desirable beverage. No, thank you.
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: Shout out to the portrayal. Oh, I'm a Wizard fan
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: this year going into this. Jordan Poole traded to the Wizards.
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: Jordan Poole just got traded.
[1:12:34] Speaker 5: DJ McCollum. I'm not like Jordan Poole. No, no, no.
[1:12:36] Speaker 5: You're not like Jordan Poole? Let me clear. Wow.
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:12:39] Speaker 5: I'm not. Just so you guys know.
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: See, niggas is disrespectful.
[1:12:42] Speaker 5: No, no. I needed an East Coast team.
[1:12:45] Speaker 7: And the only team that was fair enough was the Wizards.
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to be a Wizard
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: fan this year.
[1:12:52] Speaker 5: And then they just traded Jordan Poole. So I was like, OK, cool. So.
[1:12:57] Speaker 3: As Gil mentioned, some breaking news here in the arena.
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: A trade to report.
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: So according to Sham Sharania, the New York Pelicans are
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: trading C.J. McCollum, Kelly Olenek, and a future second-round pick
[1:13:10] Speaker 3: to the Washington Wizards for Jordan Poole, Sadiq Bae, and
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: the number 40 pick in this year's draft.
[1:13:16] Speaker 1: Sources tell ESPN. Wait, wait, wait.
[1:13:20] Speaker 5: Sadiq Bae, C.J. McCollum, oh.
[1:13:23] Speaker 1: No, you got Jordan. So Jordan Poole, Sadiq Bain, the
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: 40th pick going to the Pelicans. And we got Zion.
[1:13:28] Speaker 6: Who'd we get?
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: You got C.J. McCollum and Kelly Olenek in a future
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: second round pick.
[1:13:32] Speaker 5: Kelly Olenek.
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: So C.J. McCollum, Kelly Olenek.
[1:13:36] Speaker 5: They gonna wave to C.J. They gonna get him off
[1:13:38] Speaker 5: the books.
[1:13:39] Speaker 1: So we gave them a young Jordan Poole.
[1:13:41] Speaker 5: Champion.
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: A champion level. And we didn't get back Zion. Zion
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: Williamson was not a part of the deal.
[1:13:47] Speaker 7: Are they not paying attention to the trades that's been
[1:13:49] Speaker 7: going on and shit that was getting?
[1:13:51] Speaker 5: You can ask for.
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: More these days.
[1:13:53] Speaker 4: New Orleans is trying to get better, not Washington. That's
[1:13:59] Speaker 4: all that means. McCollum on an expiring contract. They need
[1:14:04] Speaker 4: somebody to spray us the floor, go get a bucket.
[1:14:06] Speaker 4: They need a young bucket getter. Well, shit, that's... What's
[1:14:11] Speaker 4: the name outright?
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: Wizards are now expected to approach $ 100 million in projected
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: cap space in 2026. They're going to stay there too.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody to buy. Ain't nobody to buy.
[1:14:28] Speaker 5: It's a good place to play though.
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: It is. There's nobody to buy. Bank account looking nice.
[1:14:33] Speaker 5: I got money over here.
[1:14:36] Speaker 7: I got money over here.
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: Who wants some?
[1:14:40] Speaker 5: Yeah. Who wants some?
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: We're trying to be overpaid.
[1:14:46] Speaker 5: So does this make Zion more or less likely to
[1:14:49] Speaker 5: want to stay, guys?
[1:14:50] Speaker 6: What do you think?
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: Two sick niggas in the same seat.
[1:14:53] Speaker 4: It's out of his control. Unless he publicly come out
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: and say he want out. I'm saying, but it's... Does
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: Jordan Poole don't move.
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: The needle? For nothing? That's not respectful, Steve.
[1:15:11] Speaker 4: He don't move the needle for some shot attempts right now.
[1:15:14] Speaker 4: He did win when he played a certain role in
[1:15:16] Speaker 4: Golden State, but that's not going to be his role
[1:15:18] Speaker 4: here with the Pelicans. He was very successful in the
[1:15:23] Speaker 4: role that he played with the Golden State Warriors, absolutely.
[1:15:25] Speaker 5: Sure.
[1:15:26] Speaker 4: But that role that he was put into in Washington,
[1:15:31] Speaker 4: it was a struggle. Hopefully, he's learned something from that
[1:15:33] Speaker 4: and playing with a better player in Zion. And hopefully,
[1:15:37] Speaker 4: they put some other pieces around him if they are
[1:15:39] Speaker 4: trying to compete.
[1:15:40] Speaker 5: We'll see. But I don't know. Zion's only going to
[1:15:43] Speaker 5: play 20 games.
[1:15:44] Speaker 7: No, he played a lot last year. Do you want
[1:15:47] Speaker 7: Jordan Poole's style with Zion and Ingram?
[1:15:52] Speaker 5: He need it.
[1:15:53] Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, Toronto. They've been trying to get a little mature. Well,
[1:15:59] Speaker 7: definitely step back. We know where Try works at.
[1:16:03] Speaker 5: Try? With Hope.
[1:16:05] Speaker 7: Where would Zion go, though?
[1:16:09] Speaker 1: Wherever they trace that to. Memphis?
[1:16:12] Speaker 5: They need to just click up here with Josh.
[1:16:14] Speaker 10: With Josh.
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: A very safe city.
[1:16:18] Speaker 5: Memphis. For real, man.
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: I'm not taking the bait. So how do y'all feel
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: about the trade? Y'all like it? Oh, man, I love it.
[1:16:27] Speaker 5: I'm a pool fan.
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: Sean, why do you like the trade?
[1:16:30] Speaker 5: It's a fresh start for Jordan Poole. Man. I think
[1:16:33] Speaker 5: it's good for him to try to embrace a new culture,
[1:16:37] Speaker 5: regardless of what's going on. Fresh start.
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, playing with DeJounte Murray will be coming back from
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: every other season.
[1:16:42] Speaker 5: Right, and I think, you know, regardless of what people
[1:16:44] Speaker 5: think his style of play is, he is a proven champion.
[1:16:48] Speaker 5: At one point. Hmm?
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: Towards his heel, right?
[1:16:50] Speaker 5: Average in 20s.
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: My bad.
[1:16:54] Speaker 5: That's it.
[1:16:55] Speaker 10: And, man, they need some new energy over there for real.
[1:16:59] Speaker 10: And just to get away from that wizard, I think
[1:17:03] Speaker 10: it's good for him.
[1:17:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, but so fresh start, like embrace what?
[1:17:08] Speaker 5: Pelicans. What about it? It's his new team.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: But what you want him to embrace is what I'm missing.
[1:17:17] Speaker 5: A fresh start. He gets to be around me.
[1:17:19] Speaker 6: You just had one.
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: Nah. See what he did with it.
[1:17:22] Speaker 3: Like we talked about, DeJounte, they sell back in January,
[1:17:24] Speaker 3: so likely won't be back.
[1:17:27] Speaker 7: When is he coming back? He got traded because he
[1:17:31] Speaker 7: got socked out. That's a different feeling.
[1:17:34] Speaker 3: I just wanted to know when he was coming back.
[1:17:35] Speaker 3: But at least he got his bread after. But still,
[1:17:37] Speaker 3: that's what... Was the.
[1:17:38] Speaker 5: Sock worth the bread? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: No.
[1:17:41] Speaker 5: Like you got... It wasn't worth leaving. Jordan Poole deserves
[1:17:45] Speaker 5: a fresh start.
[1:17:46] Speaker 8: Why?
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: Why does he deserve a fresh start?
[1:17:48] Speaker 5: Because he was thrown into the trash in Washington. He
[1:17:53] Speaker 5: was thrown into the trash that was in Washington.
[1:17:57] Speaker 1: He did not ask for that. He was pushed out.
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: You were him.
[1:18:02] Speaker 5: All right, we chose him. You got to go. This
[1:18:05] Speaker 5: is where we're sending you. Okay, cool. I got to
[1:18:08] Speaker 5: be here till I don't got to be here. Now,
[1:18:10] Speaker 5: when I'm not here, I might not even ask to
[1:18:12] Speaker 5: go here to New Orleans.
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: But guess what? It's a new fucking start. I get
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: to start fresh.
[1:18:18] Speaker 5: And meet some new guys i remember when he got
[1:18:20] Speaker 5: when he got the washington he had the little mustache
[1:18:27] Speaker 5: and even though it was a new star formed then
[1:18:29] Speaker 5: it's like i do not want to be here after
[1:18:33] Speaker 5: coming from where i just came from y'all trying to
[1:18:35] Speaker 5: give me no change yeah so now and it's still
[1:18:38] Speaker 5: going there it's like you're still kind of putting them
[1:18:40] Speaker 5: behind the eight ball but at least He with another
[1:18:43] Speaker 5: guy who's a star. He's like, yo, if me and
[1:18:46] Speaker 5: him get to wiggle around and then DeJounte come in here.
[1:18:49] Speaker 5: he wiggle around we make some moves and get some
[1:18:52] Speaker 5: other motherfuckers who can wiggle around we could turn into
[1:18:55] Speaker 5: a OKC or Houston. We got some pieces with them
[1:19:01] Speaker 5: two headhunters. Make some moves.
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: I think they made the move for what's made.
[1:19:07] Speaker 5: They made the move, CJ, just to make sure that
[1:19:10] Speaker 5: they can move Zion. If they want to move Zion,
[1:19:12] Speaker 5: they move CJ to let him know you're on an
[1:19:14] Speaker 5: island now.
[1:19:15] Speaker 1: So DeJounte being there ain't enough.
[1:19:19] Speaker 10: Jordan Poole, first year pick. You know what that pick
[1:19:22] Speaker 10: look like. It look like you.
[1:19:25] Speaker 5: He just got to do something, man.
[1:19:27] Speaker 7: Because he got to either dunk on somebody, punch somebody himself,
[1:19:31] Speaker 7: choke a nigga out.
[1:19:32] Speaker 1: I thought it was all about opportunity, though.
[1:19:34] Speaker 7: When we say his name, all we just remember is
[1:19:36] Speaker 7: he getting knocked out.
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: I thought it was all about opportunity.
[1:19:41] Speaker 5: We just had this whole conversation based on players having
[1:19:44] Speaker 5: opportunities to win. And everybody's saying, if I had the
[1:19:49] Speaker 5: opportunity to win, we would do this, we would do that.
[1:19:52] Speaker 5: Jordan Poole is playing with the Wizards.
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: It's not that opportunity. Coming from the Warriors. They sent
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: people there to die.
[1:19:59] Speaker 5: So when you the Warriors and you won, you won
[1:20:02] Speaker 5: with the Warriors. So you send me somewhere where I
[1:20:06] Speaker 5: can't win. And then you tell me I'm not doing enough.
[1:20:09] Speaker 1: No, we're not saying you're not doing enough. We're watching
[1:20:11] Speaker 1: you play.
[1:20:12] Speaker 5: I played the same way I played when I won. No.
[1:20:15] Speaker 10: No.
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: Played the same way I played.
[1:20:17] Speaker 6: When I won.
[1:20:18] Speaker 5: I'm just playing with a different team, man.
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: Everything look crazy.
[1:20:20] Speaker 5: Am I playing with a different team? You played the
[1:20:22] Speaker 5: same way? Wild? No, no, no, no. The way he
[1:20:28] Speaker 5: played in the Golden State was a little bit more.
[1:20:30] Speaker 5: Like Steph Curry. He played like Steph Curry. A little
[1:20:32] Speaker 5: more in control.
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: No. He played like Steph Curry.
[1:20:34] Speaker 7: It looked like he was in control because everybody else
[1:20:38] Speaker 7: knew what they was doing. Everybody else was smart. So
[1:20:41] Speaker 7: what he was doing didn't affect them because they knew. Sorry,
[1:20:44] Speaker 7: he's about to take this wild shit.
[1:20:46] Speaker 5: We're going to cut.
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: We're going to rebound. We're going to do it.
[1:20:48] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:20:48] Speaker 5: He averaged 20, though.
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:20:49] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: Over there in the wizard.
[1:20:52] Speaker 5: Over there in the wizard. They don't have that style.
[1:20:54] Speaker 7: So him playing his Golden State style over there, they're
[1:20:57] Speaker 7: not ready for that shit.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: They don't know what the fuck is going on.
[1:21:01] Speaker 5: Who averaged 20? I mean, I don't think he was
[1:21:02] Speaker 5: ready for the situation either. I mean, honestly.
[1:21:04] Speaker 4: When he first went out there, we had it. We
[1:21:07] Speaker 4: thought he would average 30. No, but the game that
[1:21:10] Speaker 4: he played, he did that.
[1:21:12] Speaker 7: Was it with New Year's Eve? The nigga was over
[1:21:15] Speaker 7: there like that and he motherfucking did that.
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: He had to step back, turn side, one leg, three shit,
[1:21:21] Speaker 4: and that teammate just did it.
[1:21:25] Speaker 1: That was it. And that was the rest of his career.
[1:21:28] Speaker 5: There.
[1:21:28] Speaker 7: Because he didn't function after that no more.
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's shit like that, bro.
[1:21:34] Speaker 5: That was the moment.
[1:21:35] Speaker 7: Because he had like 40-something. And his teammate did this
[1:21:40] Speaker 7: and did one of those.
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: And that was all over SportsCenter. And if you look
[1:21:43] Speaker 1: at his numbers after that.
[1:21:46] Speaker 8: Then he tried to be like a point guard and
[1:21:52] Speaker 8: I kind of fucked him up for a while They
[1:21:53] Speaker 8: start bringing them on and off the bench that that
[1:21:55] Speaker 8: was the moment Another 40 shots as they fucked him
[1:22:01] Speaker 8: or that's gonna break you so we asked the chat
[1:22:04] Speaker 8: who won the trade start 73% of the chat thinks
[1:22:07] Speaker 8: right now that the Pelicans won the trade by getting
[1:22:10] Speaker 8: Jordan pools and services.
[1:22:12] Speaker 1: So we will continue to monitor the situation.
[1:22:14] Speaker 3: So we got Oklahoma City Thunder champions on the couch
[1:22:18] Speaker 3: celebrating your championship.
[1:22:20] Speaker 1: Another reason for celebration.
[1:22:22] Speaker 3: There was a lot of discussion about how much interest
[1:22:24] Speaker 3: the general public would have in an NBA finals between
[1:22:26] Speaker 3: two small market teams. I thought it was going to
[1:22:29] Speaker 3: be an exceptional finals. It turned out to be. The
[1:22:31] Speaker 3: game seven ratings are in, so we'll let you be
[1:22:33] Speaker 3: the judge. So we have those numbers right now. So
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: game seven between The Thunder and Pacers was the most
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: watched NBA Finals game in six years. Average audience of
[1:22:45] Speaker 3: 16.35 million viewers. Peak audience of 19.28 million viewers. That
[1:22:52] Speaker 3: information according to ESPN PR. So with that knowledge, were
[1:22:56] Speaker 3: concerns about the small market NBA Finals overblown?
[1:23:04] Speaker 5: Game 7. Game 7.
[1:23:06] Speaker 7: Give us a number. Give us a number from 1
[1:23:10] Speaker 7: through 6. It was the worst number since 1988. But
[1:23:14] Speaker 7: this was Game 7, so everybody's got to watch to
[1:23:16] Speaker 7: see who wins. You can't get rid of the 1
[1:23:19] Speaker 7: through 6 because I guarantee you can add the 7
[1:23:23] Speaker 7: in there and it's still the worst number across the
[1:23:26] Speaker 7: board to 1988.
[1:23:28] Speaker 5: Exhausting, man.
[1:23:30] Speaker 1: You're exhausted right now. Was it the most? In six years.
[1:23:37] Speaker 5: Game seven?
[1:23:39] Speaker 4: Most watched NBA finals games. Most watched finals games, not
[1:23:42] Speaker 4: just game seven.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: Finals. But it's only game seven. It's still a finals.
[1:23:46] Speaker 5: Game, period.
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: It's a finals game. It's still a finals game.
[1:23:50] Speaker 4: Whether it wants to be the first game or the
[1:23:53] Speaker 4: seventh game, it's still a finals game.
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: In six years. Game one.
[1:23:57] Speaker 5: In six years. There's a lot of finals games. Is
[1:24:01] Speaker 5: it only game seven in six years?
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: The last game seven, 2016.
[1:24:05] Speaker 5: 2016, that's like a decade.
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: All right, cool.
[1:24:08] Speaker 4: Let's let these people enjoy it, man.
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: We have three of these people enjoying it. Let the
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: real fans enjoy it.
[1:24:15] Speaker 5: It's just a full circle moment. It's just a full
[1:24:19] Speaker 5: circle moment.
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: That's all.
[1:24:20] Speaker 5: Let's let the people that endured this team. Full circle
[1:24:24] Speaker 5: game all summer long. It's full circle, man. We're going
[1:24:28] Speaker 5: to watch because it's good basketball. Seven games, full circle.
[1:24:33] Speaker 5: Seven games. All right, whatever it is.
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: First, second.
[1:24:36] Speaker 5: Who's going to not watch the game?
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: What was game one?
[1:24:38] Speaker 5: It's good.
[1:24:39] Speaker 1: We're going seven. Who said Pacers in seven?
[1:24:43] Speaker 5: Who said Pacers in seven? You said Pacers in seven.
[1:24:47] Speaker 5: I said Pacers in seven.
[1:24:49] Speaker 1: I said, okay.
[1:24:50] Speaker 5: I said, okay. Pacers in seven.
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: I said, okay. Because I knew in seven. You know
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: what's going to happen in seven?
[1:24:55] Speaker 5: We're going. Yeah, I love it.
[1:24:57] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:24:59] Speaker 3: Game 1 of the 2025 NBA Finals. 8.91 million viewers
[1:25:03] Speaker 3: on ABC. Viewership figure represents the lowest rated and least
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: watched NBA Finals opener. since the Nielsen tracking era began
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: in 1988.
[1:25:11] Speaker 5: So it hit the worst and the most. Okay, cool.
[1:25:14] Speaker 1: So how about game two? So like I said, we
[1:25:16] Speaker 1: ain't got to.
[1:25:17] Speaker 5: Go through this. What is that? What is that?
[1:25:21] Speaker 7: Real fans that watch the game, their actual fan base
[1:25:27] Speaker 7: enjoy their fucking championships.
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: We can't watch the game.
[1:25:30] Speaker 5: Let's let them know.
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: So y'all don't want facts?
[1:25:32] Speaker 5: Okay, okay. God damn. I mean, y'all jumped on shit.
[1:25:40] Speaker 5: It did come in one. It came in the worst
[1:25:42] Speaker 5: and the second worst and the third worst. Cool. Put
[1:25:44] Speaker 5: it out there.
[1:25:44] Speaker 2: Cool.
[1:25:44] Speaker 5: Let their fans enjoy the win and gain.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: Their fans got seven good games of basketball.
[1:25:58] Speaker 7: However fucking many people watched it, they watched it.
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: Let them fucking enjoy it.
[1:26:03] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: God damn.
[1:26:05] Speaker 5: Y'all jumped out the window. I said it is as great,
[1:26:08] Speaker 5: cool as one game. Ain't nobody jumping out the window
[1:26:11] Speaker 5: on shit. And then we say.
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: Go to game one, it's the worst.
[1:26:32] Speaker 5: Go to game two, the worst.
[1:26:33] Speaker 2: Go to game three, the worst. Go to game four,
[1:26:36] Speaker 2: the worst.
[1:26:36] Speaker 5: Go to game five, the worst.
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: Go to game six, the worst.
[1:26:39] Speaker 5: Who is y'all? Who is y'all?
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: If you put them all together, who is y'all?
[1:26:42] Speaker 7: If you want to argue with him, just say it's
[1:26:47] Speaker 7: the worst. I'm not arguing with him. I'm going to
[1:26:50] Speaker 7: say it. I don't give a fuck who watching. I
[1:26:52] Speaker 7: watch and enjoy all the games. I don't give a fuck.
[1:26:55] Speaker 7: The numbers don't matter to me.
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: I enjoyed all fucking seven games.
[1:27:00] Speaker 5: Every single game. Me too.
[1:27:03] Speaker 7: And their fan base did as well.
[1:27:04] Speaker 5: That's all that fucking mattered to me.
[1:27:06] Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck what these numbers come out as, dog. Like,
[1:27:10] Speaker 4: y'all want to make arguments about shit that don't need
[1:27:12] Speaker 4: to be a fucking argument or debate about.
[1:27:14] Speaker 5: Whoever watched it, watched it.
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: 16, 4, 9, 300,000, 6,000. Who gives a fuck?
[1:27:21] Speaker 7: It was good basketball with people that like fucking basketball.
[1:27:24] Speaker 7: God damn.
[1:27:26] Speaker 5: Y'all responded. We were chilling.
[1:27:27] Speaker 7: Ain't no y'all to it, nigga. Quit saying fucking y'all.
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: You were the.
[1:27:31] Speaker 5: First one that jumped out the window. I said it's
[1:27:34] Speaker 5: good basketball. We didn't say nothing.
[1:27:35] Speaker 7: Who gives a fuck? Now you want to come back
[1:27:37] Speaker 7: to it. The first game was the worst. I don't
[1:27:39] Speaker 7: give a fuck. Neither way, Gil. That's what I'm trying
[1:27:42] Speaker 7: to get you to understand. I don't give a fuck,
[1:27:44] Speaker 7: so there's no y'all to it.
[1:27:45] Speaker 5: Okay, can you rewind it again? Like, there's no y'all
[1:27:48] Speaker 5: to it, so I don't give a fuck. We didn't
[1:27:50] Speaker 5: say nothing, fuck.
[1:27:51] Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck. We can move on from
[1:27:53] Speaker 7: the topic. Their fans enjoy the games. God damn, y'all exhausted.
[1:27:58] Speaker 6: With this shit.
[1:27:58] Speaker 5: Y'all should have said that again. It's okay. He has
[1:28:01] Speaker 5: a question. He has a question. Don't bring that up.
[1:28:06] Speaker 7: Don't bring me into this shit. Don't bring me into this.
[1:28:09] Speaker 7: I'm merely hooked.
[1:28:10] Speaker 5: Can you write an argument for nothing? How are you
[1:28:12] Speaker 5: going to create an argument that somebody asked a question?
[1:28:14] Speaker 5: There's nothing to argue about. They enjoyed it. Whoever watched it,
[1:28:17] Speaker 5: watched it, is what I'm saying. I'm not going to,
[1:28:19] Speaker 5: there's no argument.
[1:28:19] Speaker 1: That's a fact.
[1:28:20] Speaker 2: Like, whoever watched it, watched it.
[1:28:22] Speaker 5: Whoever didn't watch it, didn't watch it.
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: I can give two fucks.
[1:28:26] Speaker 5: Hey, man, no, sorry, man. Listen, I'm too.
[1:28:28] Speaker 7: Drunk and trying to celebrate for this shit, okay?
[1:28:31] Speaker 5: This is OKC Championship. 16,000 people watching. Cool. There's 13,000
[1:28:34] Speaker 5: in the chat.
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: Watching me eat.
[1:28:40] Speaker 5: My cake.
[1:28:42] Speaker 1: Actually, 20.1,000.
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: 20.1.
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: Apparently, people would love to see you eat cake.
[1:28:47] Speaker 5: Hey, this is some good-ass cake, dog. No, it is.
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: ASMR.
[1:28:50] Speaker 2: Seriously.
[1:28:50] Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie.
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: That's the best cake we ever had. Eat the cake, Gil.
[1:28:52] Speaker 5: Eat the cake. Eat the cake, anime. Eat the cake, anime.
[1:28:54] Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie, this is good. You know anybody
[1:28:59] Speaker 5: named May nowadays, though?
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: Your mama named May. I knew you were going to ask. Unnecessary.
[1:29:05] Speaker 5: Your mama named May.
[1:29:06] Speaker 1: I knew it, motherfucker.
[1:29:07] Speaker 5: You asked me a question.
[1:29:09] Speaker 6: I said nowadays.
[1:29:10] Speaker 2: She's still alive.
[1:29:12] Speaker 5: I know, but she is.
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: Swag your mama's name, May? Yeah.
[1:29:15] Speaker 3: Okay, so that wasn't an actual mama joke. He was
[1:29:17] Speaker 3: actually just saying a fact on Gilderoy to pretend about it.
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: Like her first name is May, or is it something
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: in front of May?
[1:29:25] Speaker 5: No, May Ring. It's his old ass name. His old name?
[1:29:29] Speaker 5: My daddy's name's Charles, nigga. What the fuck? Charles and May.
[1:29:33] Speaker 5: The fucked up part is Charles and May.
[1:29:36] Speaker 2: Charles and May.
[1:29:36] Speaker 5: Where your family from? Mississippi. Say less. Mississippi. No, no, no. Yes, Gil.
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: It makes sense.
[1:29:41] Speaker 7: It makes sense. It makes sense. Normally, it's something May.
[1:29:45] Speaker 7: But they put it in the beginning. So normally, it's...
[1:29:53] Speaker 7: Down south in the country, that is a real fucking thing.
[1:29:56] Speaker 1: My grandma was.
[1:29:58] Speaker 2: Named Fannie Mae.
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: Your grandma was named Fannie Mae? Fannie Mae.
[1:30:00] Speaker 6: Okay.
[1:30:01] Speaker 2: Hey!
[1:30:01] Speaker 7: The problem with what I have is... Sally Mae? Friend
[1:30:05] Speaker 7: of many. The problem is this. When they were children,
[1:30:09] Speaker 7: it makes sense when you're old. When you was children,
[1:30:12] Speaker 7: how the.
[1:30:12] Speaker 1: Fuck did you walk around with the name?
[1:30:14] Speaker 5: Because there was other people that had it. Yeah. Hey, mate. Yes.
[1:30:18] Speaker 5: Come play some tetherball.
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: Just like, hey, hey.
[1:30:21] Speaker 5: Play tetherball. Hey, mate, pick your time. Hey, Willie Earl. Hey,
[1:30:26] Speaker 5: Willie Earl. Like, damn. Your mama really.
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: Willie Earl.
[1:30:30] Speaker 5: Willie Earl. Yeah, that's an oldie.
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: Oldie.
[1:30:33] Speaker 5: Old, old. It's like, how do you have that as
[1:30:36] Speaker 5: a child? Yes.
[1:30:37] Speaker 2: Bartholomew.
[1:30:38] Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of Bartholomew.
[1:30:40] Speaker 5: You ain't never heard of Bartholomew? Bartholomew.
[1:30:42] Speaker 1: I heard of Alfred. He never came out to play.
[1:30:45] Speaker 5: Bartholomew never came out to play.
[1:30:49] Speaker 1: To real. You run into somebody with a name now, you.
[1:30:52] Speaker 5: Be like, what? Your mama named you that?
[1:30:55] Speaker 1: Old ass name.
[1:30:56] Speaker 6: That's why you call him T.
[1:30:57] Speaker 5: Betty. Mildred. Mildred.
[1:30:58] Speaker 1: You better not.
[1:30:59] Speaker 5: Come over here, Mildred.
[1:31:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, Alfred. I love this show and the places that
[1:31:08] Speaker 3: we go.
[1:31:08] Speaker 1: Charles!
[1:31:09] Speaker 2: Charles!
[1:31:12] Speaker 7: Still sipping the hardened Prosecco.
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've had enough of the hardened Prosecco, perhaps? No,
[1:31:18] Speaker 1: I gotta finish the bottle.
[1:31:19] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:31:19] Speaker 1: Oh, this is the hardest thing.
[1:31:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the hardest.
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: Shout out James Harden, former Oklahoma City Thunder.
[1:31:24] Speaker 5: My finest.
[1:31:25] Speaker 1: The Prosecco will make you go. You didn't see that?
[1:31:28] Speaker 5: You didn't know that? No, this is the James.
[1:31:31] Speaker 1: Let's keep this thing moving.
[1:31:32] Speaker 5: Why you got shades on? Because he cool.
[1:31:35] Speaker 1: He does have shades on his Prosecco box. Is this
[1:31:36] Speaker 1: the Hulk? He's the Hulk.
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[1:33:28] Speaker 3: to the Pacers side of things. So after a great
[1:33:31] Speaker 3: season which saw them force a game seven in the finals,
[1:33:33] Speaker 3: Pacers saw one game short now dealing with a devastating injury.
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: To their best player.
[1:33:37] Speaker 3: So Tyrese Halliburton addresses Achilles injury in a lengthy social
[1:33:40] Speaker 3: media post last night. So I encourage people to check
[1:33:43] Speaker 3: out the whole post, but I'll read a few excerpts
[1:33:46] Speaker 3: to give you an idea of what he was trying
[1:33:48] Speaker 3: to express. So let's put them up right now. He said,
[1:33:51] Speaker 3: Don't know how to explain it other than shock. Words
[1:33:53] Speaker 3: cannot express the pain of this letdown. The frustration is unfathomable.
[1:33:57] Speaker 3: I worked my whole life to get to this moment,
[1:33:59] Speaker 3: and this is how it ends? Makes no sense. He
[1:34:02] Speaker 3: goes on to say, this shit sucks. My foot feels
[1:34:05] Speaker 3: like dead weight, fam. But what's hurting the most, I think,
[1:34:08] Speaker 3: is my mind. So moving a little ahead, Hallie said,
[1:34:11] Speaker 3: at 25, I've already learned that God never gives us
[1:34:13] Speaker 3: more than we can handle. I know I'll come out
[1:34:15] Speaker 3: of the other side of this a better man and
[1:34:17] Speaker 3: a better player. And honestly, right now, touring Achilles and all,
[1:34:19] Speaker 3: I don't regret it.
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: I'd do it again.
[1:34:22] Speaker 3: And again after that, to fight for this city and
[1:34:24] Speaker 3: my brothers for the chance to do something special. He
[1:34:26] Speaker 3: then took some inspiration from Kobe, writing, I think Kobe
[1:34:30] Speaker 3: said it best when in the same situation. There are
[1:34:33] Speaker 3: far greater issues, challenges in the world than a torn Achilles.
[1:34:36] Speaker 3: Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Find the silver lining and
[1:34:39] Speaker 3: get to work with the same belief, same drive, and
[1:34:41] Speaker 3: same conviction as ever. And that's exactly right. I will
[1:34:44] Speaker 3: do everything in my power to get back right. And
[1:34:46] Speaker 3: he ended his post with, So give me some time.
[1:34:49] Speaker 3: I'll dust myself off. Get right back to being the
[1:34:51] Speaker 3: best version of Tyrese Halliburton. So very impressive perspective from
[1:34:55] Speaker 3: a 25-year-old. But what's your reaction to Tyrese Halliburton's emotional
[1:34:59] Speaker 3: post about his Achilles tear?
[1:35:03] Speaker 5: You deserve some smoke. Yeah.
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: How do we do it?
[1:35:07] Speaker 5: Unlocked, unlocked?
[1:35:09] Speaker 1: We'll give Tyrese Halliburton some smoke. Very eloquently written.
[1:35:13] Speaker 5: You should get a statue. You should get a statue. No, man, it's...
[1:35:17] Speaker 5: First time doing it?
[1:35:19] Speaker 4: Coming out of surgery, going into surgery and coming out
[1:35:22] Speaker 4: of surgery and.
[1:35:25] Speaker 5: Reflecting, right?
[1:35:27] Speaker 4: Gathering your thoughts, gathering your emotions, gathering your desire. All
[1:35:35] Speaker 4: of it just combined in one, man. And this is
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: what you get. And it's a good thing that he's
[1:35:41] Speaker 4: able to share this with people. And this is one
[1:35:45] Speaker 4: of the... more positive things that social media has allowed
[1:35:51] Speaker 4: players to be able to interact with their fans. So, no,
[1:35:57] Speaker 4: it's good to see, man, his spirit, see where he is,
[1:36:00] Speaker 4: see where his mind is going. So, shout-out, speed of
[1:36:03] Speaker 4: recovery to Tyrese Halliburton, man.
[1:36:05] Speaker 3: Shout-out what you think about Tyrese Halliburton reflecting after surgery
[1:36:10] Speaker 3: on his injury perspective on how he'll bounce back, be
[1:36:13] Speaker 3: the best version of Tyrese Halliburton.
[1:36:15] Speaker 5: It was beautiful. I feel like he did and said
[1:36:18] Speaker 5: everything he was supposed to say to encourage everybody else
[1:36:21] Speaker 5: that's in the same position. Never lose hope. Your mentality
[1:36:26] Speaker 5: is the only thing that's going to rise you above
[1:36:27] Speaker 5: any kind of setback. And I think he's embraced that
[1:36:31] Speaker 5: right mentality to understand that you can get the city there.
[1:36:35] Speaker 1: You can keep the inspiration alive.
[1:36:36] Speaker 5: You can make sure everybody who followed you keep following
[1:36:39] Speaker 5: you because the journey ain't over. I think that's important
[1:36:43] Speaker 5: for him, his family, his fan base, everybody. to know
[1:36:47] Speaker 5: that this kid right here got more than just spirit,
[1:36:50] Speaker 5: more than just heart.
[1:36:52] Speaker 1: Like he tried to really do it.
[1:36:54] Speaker 5: And so for him to come up short because of injury,
[1:36:56] Speaker 5: I think the mentality is the only thing that's going to.
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: Leverage people still believing in him.
[1:37:02] Speaker 5: And I think everybody that's adopted the mama mentality has
[1:37:06] Speaker 5: come very close to not falling short. And those who
[1:37:12] Speaker 5: have know how to get back there because that mentality
[1:37:14] Speaker 5: can get you there.
[1:37:14] Speaker 1: So, I'm very.
[1:37:16] Speaker 5: Appreciative of him and his resilience to get through it mentally.
[1:37:20] Speaker 1: Now he's just got to do the work. So let's
[1:37:22] Speaker 1: shift over to the side of the couch. Mr. B,
[1:37:23] Speaker 1: you suffered a similar injury in your career. Yeah.
[1:37:26] Speaker 3: So you have a very deep understanding of what Tyrese
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: Halliburton is going through right now. But what do you
[1:37:30] Speaker 3: think about him reflecting on that with that lengthy post? No,
[1:37:33] Speaker 3: I'm glad his spirits is high.
[1:37:35] Speaker 13: I know when I tore my Achilles at 25, my
[1:37:37] Speaker 13: spirits wasn't like this.
[1:37:39] Speaker 5: So he definitely has a good head on his shoulders.
[1:37:43] Speaker 13: You know, I think for me, when I when I
[1:37:44] Speaker 13: got hurt, you know, I think it was more about
[1:37:46] Speaker 13: what's next for me. So, you know, like you said,
[1:37:50] Speaker 13: becoming the best version of yourself. You know, I think,
[1:37:53] Speaker 13: you know, my time when I got hurt and I
[1:37:55] Speaker 13: got a chance to understand who I really was and
[1:37:57] Speaker 13: what I really loved. So, you know, I think just
[1:38:00] Speaker 13: with this time, you know, just, you know, keep your
[1:38:03] Speaker 13: spirits high and get into things that. you know, you
[1:38:06] Speaker 13: never thought that you could get into and just like
[1:38:08] Speaker 13: myself with fashion and things like that. So just got
[1:38:10] Speaker 13: to stay positive, keep the right people around you. But
[1:38:13] Speaker 13: it's going to be a work in progress just overall,
[1:38:15] Speaker 13: just mentally. So I just wish the best for.
[1:38:21] Speaker 8: Him.
[1:38:21] Speaker 5: For sure.
[1:38:22] Speaker 10: I'm lucky for, you know, not lucky, but his game
[1:38:27] Speaker 10: really don't need that. like, to be jumping a lot,
[1:38:31] Speaker 10: you know, so for him, he's just a winner, and
[1:38:34] Speaker 10: I'm glad he's keeping that, his spirits up, the mentality of,
[1:38:39] Speaker 10: you know, Kobe is a good inspiration, for real. What
[1:38:44] Speaker 10: he did for Indiana, I ain't seen Indiana like this
[1:38:47] Speaker 10: in a while, man. This guy is It's starting to
[1:38:50] Speaker 10: be the heart and soul of Indiana. Just keep believing.
[1:38:55] Speaker 10: It's going to be days where you don't got faith
[1:38:57] Speaker 10: and you're going to be mad at the world and
[1:39:00] Speaker 10: mad at just basketball and not wanting to get up
[1:39:05] Speaker 10: and do the work. But, you know, those are going
[1:39:07] Speaker 10: to be the times that you just got to keep
[1:39:09] Speaker 10: believing and get out there and do it.
[1:39:12] Speaker 5: You know, it's better days for sure.
[1:39:15] Speaker 1: Last but not least, Gil.
[1:39:17] Speaker 7: What?
[1:39:17] Speaker 1: Number zero.
[1:39:18] Speaker 3: Just like Tyrese Halliburton. What do you think about Hallie?
[1:39:23] Speaker 3: Reflecting on his injury and finding the silver lining in
[1:39:26] Speaker 3: the bright side of what the road ahead is.
[1:39:28] Speaker 5: You know, this is what, the shock?
[1:39:33] Speaker 7: This is the shock part of the recovery where, you know,
[1:39:41] Speaker 7: it's more about you can't believe this happened at this
[1:39:45] Speaker 7: moment in time.
[1:39:47] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:39:47] Speaker 7: You know, You know, you're starting off the game on fire.
[1:39:51] Speaker 7: You know, you came out there. So, you know, you're
[1:39:54] Speaker 7: still questioning yourself. Should you have still did it? And
[1:39:58] Speaker 7: the answer is yes. You're going to always say yes.
[1:40:02] Speaker 7: Even knowing the results, you're going to say yes. So
[1:40:05] Speaker 7: this is where, you know, you're trying to just reflect
[1:40:08] Speaker 7: your thoughts because while you're sitting there and the world
[1:40:11] Speaker 7: is moving forward.
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: You know, your teammates is doing what they're doing.
[1:40:15] Speaker 5: People are calling. People are not calling.
[1:40:17] Speaker 7: You know, you're watching, you know, sports and you're looking at,
[1:40:19] Speaker 7: you know, social media. The game is moving. So all
[1:40:23] Speaker 7: you have right now is your thoughts. And just like
[1:40:27] Speaker 7: any injury, there's going to be positive days. There's going
[1:40:32] Speaker 7: to be horrible days where he feel he's not where
[1:40:37] Speaker 7: he's supposed to be.
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: But that's normal.
[1:40:40] Speaker 5: Right.
[1:40:41] Speaker 7: And, you know, just like Jason Tatum, just like Dame,
[1:40:44] Speaker 7: just like Kyrie.
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: You know, I make sure, you know, once a week,
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: once every two weeks.
[1:40:50] Speaker 5: How's your mental?
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: How you doing? You feeling good?
[1:40:52] Speaker 7: You know, because sometimes you just need that because there
[1:40:55] Speaker 7: might be a day where he's feeling real good. And
[1:40:57] Speaker 7: then next day he feels like shit, like there's no movement.
[1:41:02] Speaker 5: Right.
[1:41:02] Speaker 7: There's going to be two steps back for 10 steps back.
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: So he's going to have to understand that.
[1:41:08] Speaker 7: So there's going to be multiple times where you see
[1:41:09] Speaker 7: him tweet throughout this process, and you're going to be like, yo,
[1:41:13] Speaker 7: what's going on with him? But, you know, stay positive, right?
[1:41:17] Speaker 7: Understand that there is a bigger calling. Understand that for
[1:41:20] Speaker 7: you yourself, this is your right foot, right? You don't
[1:41:25] Speaker 7: jump off your right foot, so everything you do going
[1:41:28] Speaker 7: to the basket is not affected. This allows you to
[1:41:32] Speaker 7: open up the left side of your game. So you
[1:41:34] Speaker 7: got to look at the.
[1:41:35] Speaker 5: Positives, right?
[1:41:36] Speaker 7: Right now we know you like moving right. Now you're
[1:41:39] Speaker 7: going to have to learn to move left. Now you
[1:41:41] Speaker 7: open up two sides of your game. But your floater's
[1:41:44] Speaker 7: going to be there. Your shot's going to be there.
[1:41:46] Speaker 7: So it's not like, you know, the guys before you
[1:41:49] Speaker 7: or years before you where it was their dominant leg
[1:41:53] Speaker 7: or their jumping leg where it took away their jumping ability.
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: So you're going to be fine in that category.
[1:41:58] Speaker 7: So just like KD didn't stop him, just like Jason
[1:42:02] Speaker 7: Tatum is going to be fine when he gets back.
[1:42:04] Speaker 7: He's still going to have his jumping ability. And just
[1:42:06] Speaker 7: like yourself, you know, it's not your dominant leg where
[1:42:09] Speaker 7: the pass, you know, that's where that injury affected him.
[1:42:12] Speaker 7: Because it's more of an up and down injury versus speed.
[1:42:15] Speaker 7: So you don't stop your speed, you stop your jumping ability.
[1:42:20] Speaker 4: And the one thing he said, man, and once you,
[1:42:25] Speaker 4: like I said, it was the NBA Finals for him,
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: I could only imagine.
[1:42:29] Speaker 5: Like, I just.
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: I can only go back to when I got hurt
[1:42:32] Speaker 4: in college, right? Going back, going down, right before the
[1:42:35] Speaker 4: NCAA tournament, not getting an opportunity to play in the tournament, right?
[1:42:39] Speaker 4: And he said something in his post, and you just,
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: the constant thought that you have is, why now?
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:42:46] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:42:47] Speaker 7: It's a reoccurring... fucking, it just plays over and over.
[1:42:51] Speaker 7: And that's like, when I went down and Huggins came
[1:42:53] Speaker 7: out there, that's the first thing I said to.
[1:42:54] Speaker 5: Him, man, not now, man. Like, not now. Like, just kept,
[1:42:58] Speaker 5: I just kept, he's like, yo, Cal.
[1:43:00] Speaker 6: Man, not now, man.
[1:43:01] Speaker 5: Like, not now.
[1:43:03] Speaker 4: And then when he went down, you just, his reaction
[1:43:05] Speaker 4: was no, no, no, no, no.
[1:43:07] Speaker 1: Like, it's that, man.
[1:43:08] Speaker 4: Like, so it's going to be this reoccurring thing that
[1:43:12] Speaker 4: I think he, he started to process like, it was
[1:43:15] Speaker 4: out of like, I would do it again no matter what.
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: And it was out of, so it's, Yeah, I want
[1:43:20] Speaker 4: them to get past that part of it, right? Because
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: it is.
[1:43:24] Speaker 7: Like, why now, man? How long did it take you
[1:43:26] Speaker 7: to get out of it? A couple months. Boy, I was,
[1:43:28] Speaker 7: because I was not waiting. It's a while, bro. It
[1:43:32] Speaker 7: was a while, bro. Like, for the USC juju, like,
[1:43:36] Speaker 7: probably not to my, like, to the positive stage.
[1:43:39] Speaker 4: Probably not until fucking the ball went up my first
[1:43:41] Speaker 4: game on rookie year, bro. And then I was out
[1:43:43] Speaker 4: there playing again. And then, like, I'd make sure I was,
[1:43:46] Speaker 4: and I still wasn't probably 100%, like, but I was
[1:43:49] Speaker 4: out there playing.
[1:43:50] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:43:51] Speaker 4: And it was just it just kept replaying man like
[1:43:55] Speaker 4: why now man like like really i.
[1:43:57] Speaker 1: Didn't work i did all this fucking.
[1:43:59] Speaker 7: Work man i didn't get all this fucking like did
[1:44:04] Speaker 7: i break some mirrors around this this is part of
[1:44:07] Speaker 7: the seven year like.
[1:44:09] Speaker 5: And it's like do i have people around me fuck
[1:44:10] Speaker 5: like what the fuck lucky he's able to fit in
[1:44:13] Speaker 5: this manner and it's it's a different.
[1:44:15] Speaker 4: Time man and just for me it was Just trying
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: your best to have the right people around you and
[1:44:22] Speaker 4: try to avoid negativity at all costs. Whatever it was.
[1:44:26] Speaker 4: It's a long haul, man, but I'm saying the work
[1:44:32] Speaker 4: is still the work.
[1:44:33] Speaker 10: Do y'all believe all this is happening because they're low-top
[1:44:35] Speaker 10: shoes now?
[1:44:36] Speaker 5: All the low-tops? No. Not enough high-tops? No. The 80s
[1:44:40] Speaker 5: and the 60s and the 70s were Chuck Taylors. We
[1:44:45] Speaker 5: trained a lot. You know what I mean?
[1:44:46] Speaker 1: I bet they were checking it. Jumping 42 inches, 44 inches.
[1:44:49] Speaker 5: I forgot. I just think it's just training, man.
[1:44:52] Speaker 7: It's just training and wrestling and not understanding the mechanics.
[1:44:57] Speaker 1: You got a bunch of non-athletes teaching athletes.
[1:45:02] Speaker 7: You got guys, these trainers are, what, 5'5, 5'6, training.
[1:45:06] Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
[1:45:07] Speaker 1: But you got guys that are, you're trying to train.
[1:45:11] Speaker 7: 6'6, 6'7, dudes with 45-inch verticals jumping out the gym,
[1:45:15] Speaker 7: and you're trying to teach them how to be what?
[1:45:20] Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
[1:45:20] Speaker 7: Like when we're talking about MJ, Dominique Wilkins, we're talking
[1:45:24] Speaker 7: about Michael Thompson.
[1:45:26] Speaker 5: Like there's been, you know, there's been jumpers.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: All throughout our career in worse shoes than what we
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: have now.
[1:45:32] Speaker 7: No support. So it's not the shoes. It's not the ability.
[1:45:38] Speaker 7: It's probably training. They didn't even have.
[1:45:40] Speaker 5: Trainers in the 60s and 80s.
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:45:44] Speaker 7: They didn't have no way to let them motherfuckers drunk,
[1:45:46] Speaker 7: smoke crack, whatever they was doing, out there playing 82
[1:45:49] Speaker 7: goddamn games.
[1:45:51] Speaker 5: Boy, don't you smoke. Millions of people can't be wrong. No,
[1:45:56] Speaker 5: think about what I'm saying, though.
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: The 60s and 80s, drugs, drinking. low shoes no work.
[1:46:06] Speaker 7: Ethic no training for they shit coming from jobs jumping
[1:46:10] Speaker 7: out the gym doing whatever finger rolling from the free
[1:46:13] Speaker 7: throw line ice gerbing and shit no fucking nothing they're
[1:46:17] Speaker 7: cool but he gotta jump Dr. J all through this
[1:46:21] Speaker 7: shit right here on Chuck Taylor's none of this shit
[1:46:25] Speaker 7: going on what's changed.
[1:46:27] Speaker 5: I'll tell you tell you what's changed okay so Another
[1:46:33] Speaker 5: bad take. Speed, style of play. We used to do
[1:46:39] Speaker 5: inside out, right? Score how many points a game during
[1:46:44] Speaker 5: a certain time from 92? 2012.
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: Change of pace, change of explosiveness.
[1:46:54] Speaker 5: When you pick up the pace, we exert more energy
[1:46:59] Speaker 5: and more force with our extremities. That means body parts
[1:47:03] Speaker 5: and limbs and shit. You know what I'm saying? So
[1:47:07] Speaker 5: when we out there, we're not stretching these. We're not
[1:47:09] Speaker 5: doing all the things necessary to keep us going. But
[1:47:11] Speaker 5: what we're missing is that we're overexerting these kids at
[1:47:14] Speaker 5: a different pace that we've never seen before, which is
[1:47:17] Speaker 5: the output doesn't have enough rest.
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: For what they're putting in. So.
[1:47:23] Speaker 5: Guys are getting hurt at a frequent rate because they're
[1:47:27] Speaker 5: not resting enough for those little tweaked injuries. Wait, I
[1:47:31] Speaker 5: already know what you're doing. Giannis, literally, he was out, right?
[1:47:36] Speaker 5: But did he tear his Achilles? Right, so he took
[1:47:41] Speaker 5: enough time to get back.
[1:47:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:47:43] Speaker 5: Right? And so when he got back, I can't remember
[1:47:47] Speaker 5: if he did reoccur, but he was able to bounce
[1:47:50] Speaker 5: back without tearing his Achilles.
[1:47:52] Speaker 1: Everybody else saying they felt it.
[1:47:54] Speaker 5: Everybody else saying we're trying to push through it because
[1:47:56] Speaker 5: the schedule is more strenuous and with the output that
[1:47:59] Speaker 5: I'm expecting, I'm going to do what Kobe did. Kobe
[1:48:04] Speaker 5: was in a different type of schedule and the pace
[1:48:06] Speaker 5: picked up because the coach changed it. It's a whole
[1:48:09] Speaker 5: different style of play for him. Pace changes... Injuries change.
[1:48:15] Speaker 5: Everybody's moving and running at a different rate. Remember when
[1:48:18] Speaker 5: Hallenberg got his first injury? There's fast pace, fast pace.
[1:48:23] Speaker 5: He's trying to get back in shape to that fast pace.
[1:48:26] Speaker 5: He was never the same guy. Now he's trying to
[1:48:28] Speaker 5: get back in the form and look what happened. He's
[1:48:31] Speaker 5: picking up the pace. He's pushing the pace.
[1:48:33] Speaker 1: So then you just say that they need more rest, right?
[1:48:36] Speaker 13: So wouldn't that be smart for Luka to rest more
[1:48:38] Speaker 13: instead of playing for his national team?
[1:48:41] Speaker 5: Because those same injuries.
[1:48:42] Speaker 1: Talk about the season. Not the offseason, the season. Right,
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: so don't it start in the offseason?
[1:48:48] Speaker 5: I don't know. Don't it start in the offseason for
[1:48:50] Speaker 5: you to rest? Oh, if we have a shorter season,
[1:48:52] Speaker 5: you have more time to play and rest.
[1:48:54] Speaker 11: Shorter season? Shorter season. 70 games? No, I did the
[1:48:59] Speaker 11: math on the shorter season. So let's say they do
[1:49:02] Speaker 11: 60 games, right, like LeBron suggested.
[1:49:06] Speaker 5: 60? Yeah.
[1:49:08] Speaker 1: He's like, 60 games. I was like, if you do 60.
[1:49:12] Speaker 7: Games, the top 15 players of.
[1:49:15] Speaker 5: All time would never be changed.
[1:49:17] Speaker 8: Never.
[1:49:17] Speaker 1: Never.
[1:49:18] Speaker 7: Because one, you're missing, you will have, just to do,
[1:49:21] Speaker 7: let's say Jordan played 78 games one year, had about
[1:49:28] Speaker 7: 3,200 points. You will have to average, just to tie him,
[1:49:33] Speaker 7: in the 60 games, 42 to 44 points a game,
[1:49:38] Speaker 7: just to tie him in what he did.
[1:49:41] Speaker 10: No, because they didn't play that long, though. Like Magic played, what, nine,
[1:49:44] Speaker 10: ten years? Jordan played, what?
[1:49:47] Speaker 5: But they played 82 games. Mike played 27 years. Mike
[1:49:50] Speaker 5: didn't play 20 years. Mike played 15 years.
[1:49:53] Speaker 7: 11 of them was 80 games or more.
[1:49:57] Speaker 5: But still.
[1:49:58] Speaker 7: So you're talking about a guy who played damn near
[1:50:00] Speaker 7: every game.
[1:50:02] Speaker 5: Well, yeah. So what I'm saying is. They could play
[1:50:04] Speaker 5: more years, though. Like, Brown has played 22. But that's something.
[1:50:07] Speaker 1: They would literally have to play.
[1:50:09] Speaker 7: Just through the math, 60 games, you would have to play.
[1:50:13] Speaker 1: 32 years to catch Michael Jordan.
[1:50:16] Speaker 5: Averaging 44. Not possible.
[1:50:19] Speaker 7: Playing every single game at 39 minutes a game. Because
[1:50:24] Speaker 7: they said, let's play 60 games at 40 minutes. It's
[1:50:27] Speaker 7: not even possible. You mean they're going to never catch LeBron?
[1:50:31] Speaker 5: Or Jordan? Can't. Is that what the game has come to?
[1:50:34] Speaker 5: We just got to try to catch everybody? We can't
[1:50:37] Speaker 5: just play the game and just enjoy the game and
[1:50:39] Speaker 5: play it?
[1:50:40] Speaker 1: No, we want to. Or 70?
[1:50:40] Speaker 5: Can't be 70 games? I don't think.
[1:50:46] Speaker 1: Why they got to change it? I don't think nobody's
[1:50:48] Speaker 1: going to change it.
[1:50:49] Speaker 5: Why do they have to change it?
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: Why do they have to play less?
[1:50:52] Speaker 5: Because they can't hurt. Dudes get hurt all the time, man.
[1:50:55] Speaker 5: So rest in the offseason more. Stop playing for your life.
[1:50:58] Speaker 2: Man, man, man.
[1:50:59] Speaker 5: Look, man.
[1:51:00] Speaker 2: Bring back Star Wars and crack.
[1:51:02] Speaker 5: Okay?
[1:51:03] Speaker 1: Bring back zero.
[1:51:04] Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck what nobody say.
[1:51:06] Speaker 5: In the 90s, I don't know if we was doing cocaine.
[1:51:09] Speaker 7: We can say by the hairline that niggas was losing
[1:51:12] Speaker 7: their shit at about 20 years old.
[1:51:13] Speaker 5: Okay?
[1:51:14] Speaker 7: And they kids got full head hair so it didn't.
[1:51:20] Speaker 5: Pass on.
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: So there were extenuating factors.
[1:51:23] Speaker 5: But them niggas played 82 games. 82 every year like clockwork.
[1:51:32] Speaker 1: With none of the technology given today. Yeah, I just
[1:51:36] Speaker 1: want to know how John Stockton did it forever.
[1:51:39] Speaker 7: You know, come alone out there, motherfucker, looking like a mailman.
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: When nobody asks for less games, dog, it's unfortunate. I
[1:51:49] Speaker 4: hate to see people go down, absolutely. Unfortunately, that this
[1:51:55] Speaker 4: is a part of our game. Injuries are a part
[1:51:57] Speaker 4: of it. It fucking sucks. Like, it really does. It sucks, man.
[1:52:02] Speaker 4: But it's a part of it. Playing less games, playing
[1:52:05] Speaker 4: less men. It ain't going to change.
[1:52:07] Speaker 1: Injuries, man.
[1:52:08] Speaker 5: All right, so then the guys are going to be
[1:52:09] Speaker 5: injury prone. Well, here's the juice. There's no such thing.
[1:52:13] Speaker 5: There's no such thing as injury prone? Here's the juice.
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: So, Gil, you're suggesting.
[1:52:17] Speaker 2: Damn, Mary Bonds, Sammy Sosa.
[1:52:19] Speaker 5: Why y'all forget? Niggas, I know black, but I know black. Oh,
[1:52:23] Speaker 5: it has to be something. It has to be something.
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: Y'all have black niggas going out to go get hurt
[1:52:28] Speaker 5: and injured, dog.
[1:52:29] Speaker 1: What's the point? What's the point?
[1:52:31] Speaker 5: It's wear and tear.
[1:52:33] Speaker 7: It's wear and tear. It's the lifestyle in the seat.
[1:52:37] Speaker 7: In the summer, we do more in the summer.
[1:52:39] Speaker 2: Four or five.
[1:52:40] Speaker 5: Times a day.
[1:52:43] Speaker 4: I don't like the term because you tell me that
[1:52:44] Speaker 4: I'm injury prone when I had to get fucking microfracture
[1:52:47] Speaker 4: surgery for me going out and playing fucking basketball. No,
[1:52:49] Speaker 4: I had two of them, and I had to get
[1:52:50] Speaker 4: my fucking patella repaired. I'm not injury-prone. I missed a
[1:52:53] Speaker 4: lot of games, but I had to get surgery because
[1:52:55] Speaker 4: I fucking played basketball a certain way. Not injury-prone. I
[1:52:59] Speaker 4: fucking hate it. So, no, dudes don't do that shit.
[1:53:02] Speaker 4: Let's actually get down to the real shit of it.
[1:53:04] Speaker 1: But if you're not available.
[1:53:06] Speaker 5: No, I'm not injury-prone because I played basketball.
[1:53:09] Speaker 4: I'm playing basketball, so therefore I had to get surgery.
[1:53:12] Speaker 1: I'm not injury-prone.
[1:53:13] Speaker 5: You played basketball and got hurt. We missing the real.
[1:53:17] Speaker 5: Have you ever heard.
[1:53:18] Speaker 7: No, think about what I'm saying.
[1:53:22] Speaker 1: We play all summer, right?
[1:53:24] Speaker 7: Have you heard of a microfracture injury in the summer?
[1:53:29] Speaker 7: Have you heard of Achilles tear in the summer? Have
[1:53:32] Speaker 7: you heard of any meniscus or any ACL tears in
[1:53:36] Speaker 7: the summer?
[1:53:36] Speaker 5: You mean recently? Recently.
[1:53:39] Speaker 2: And we're playing.
[1:53:40] Speaker 5: We're doing the beach run. We're doing everything. We're not
[1:53:45] Speaker 5: even going hard.
[1:53:46] Speaker 7: We're bullshitting to the point where we could get injured more.
[1:53:49] Speaker 7: What ends up happening is the season of how we.
[1:53:54] Speaker 7: We're stronger and you jump higher in the summer, don't you?
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:53:59] Speaker 7: You jump higher in the summer doing all this extra shit.
[1:54:02] Speaker 7: In the season is where this comes in effect.
[1:54:05] Speaker 5: No. You drink more in the summer. Stop.
[1:54:07] Speaker 1: No, we don't.
[1:54:08] Speaker 5: No, we don't.
[1:54:09] Speaker 6: No, we don't.
[1:54:09] Speaker 4: Not during my time. I can speak for me.
[1:54:12] Speaker 2: In fact.
[1:54:13] Speaker 1: Because I didn't smoke during the season. Listen, I didn't
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: smoke during the season.
[1:54:17] Speaker 4: I wasn't one of them dudes that was testing them
[1:54:19] Speaker 4: people during the season. So I actually drunk more during
[1:54:21] Speaker 4: the season. Drunk more during the season.
[1:54:23] Speaker 1: You're partying. You're coming in at 3, 4, 5 a.m.
[1:54:25] Speaker 1: Telling the truth.
[1:54:26] Speaker 8: Right.
[1:54:26] Speaker 5: Every road trip. Every other road trip. Miami. Like the
[1:54:29] Speaker 5: nigga said he went to on his 30th birthday. That's
[1:54:31] Speaker 5: in the middle of the season. And you're killing it.
[1:54:33] Speaker 5: You're pouring in more in the summer. You just talked
[1:54:35] Speaker 5: about your rookie year.
[1:54:37] Speaker 7: I said, if you win in this, you got to
[1:54:39] Speaker 7: drink how many shots during the season?
[1:54:41] Speaker 5: You're not doing that in the summer like that.
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: We didn't drink like that.
[1:54:43] Speaker 5: Let's stop.
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: We had fun, but we didn't drink like that.
[1:54:45] Speaker 7: When we get drunk in the summer, when we get
[1:54:48] Speaker 7: drunk in the summer, we're not going out there playing
[1:54:50] Speaker 7: against the goddamn.
[1:54:51] Speaker 2: John Wall!
[1:54:52] Speaker 5: You got more time than you do. Work out your
[1:54:55] Speaker 5: whole time. You're not flying and all that shit.
[1:54:57] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:54:58] Speaker 5: So six shots, then I got to guard John Wall.
[1:55:00] Speaker 5: That's a different thing. No, you'll take six shots, get
[1:55:03] Speaker 5: your full rest, and then go work out.
[1:55:05] Speaker 1: We can do it in the season.
[1:55:07] Speaker 7: We're going to Miami drinking that night, then we got
[1:55:09] Speaker 7: to go play fucking Dwayne Wade and LeBron.
[1:55:11] Speaker 5: That's where these injuries are coming from. We all hooked
[1:55:13] Speaker 5: up during the season.
[1:55:14] Speaker 1: Then we got to shoot around in the morning.
[1:55:15] Speaker 5: Then we got to shoot around in the morning.
[1:55:17] Speaker 1: That ain't flushing.
[1:55:17] Speaker 10: You're not drinking like nobody drinking to get blacked out
[1:55:21] Speaker 10: during the season, bro.
[1:55:23] Speaker 5: Not everybody. No, man.
[1:55:25] Speaker 1: Some dudes. I had a couple teammates that got blacked out.
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: You was blacked out every goddamn trip.
[1:55:28] Speaker 10: No, I only blacked out when you gave me that message.
[1:55:31] Speaker 5: That's every other goddamn trip. Man, we did not. Stop, Gil.
[1:55:34] Speaker 5: You're acting like Gil. When we was in Philadelphia. We
[1:55:37] Speaker 5: was in Miami.
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: We was in Miami. We was in Miami.
[1:55:40] Speaker 5: We was in Miami. We was in Miami.
[1:55:42] Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
[1:55:42] Speaker 5: It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. We're weaker during the season.
[1:55:45] Speaker 1: Because we have a schedule.
[1:55:47] Speaker 5: A lot of circumstances.
[1:55:57] Speaker 7: Because we have a schedule that we got to play.
[1:56:00] Speaker 1: In the summer, I can get fucked up and not.
[1:56:01] Speaker 5: Play that day. I don't have to practice that day.
[1:56:04] Speaker 4: There's a lot of circumstances, man, that factors in to
[1:56:09] Speaker 4: everything that happens, man. But it's unfortunate injuries are a
[1:56:12] Speaker 4: part of sports, right? We deal with it. Some guys
[1:56:16] Speaker 4: bounce back from it. Some guys don't. But playing less games,
[1:56:22] Speaker 4: asking for 40-minute games and a 60-game schedule is not
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: going to change these things.
[1:56:27] Speaker 1: It's just not.
[1:56:29] Speaker 5: Man.
[1:56:30] Speaker 9: Right?
[1:56:31] Speaker 5: We did two-a-days. We practiced these hard.
[1:56:34] Speaker 4: We did these things, and we had Achilles injuries on
[1:56:37] Speaker 4: our teams, ACLs, MCLs, hamstrings.
[1:56:40] Speaker 1: Back, all of the shit. It happens, man. It's just
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: a part of it.
[1:56:43] Speaker 5: It's unfortunate. It can hit your body. But you can
[1:56:46] Speaker 5: take care of it.
[1:56:47] Speaker 1: Something we're doing on it, and it still can fucking happen.
[1:56:49] Speaker 5: How many Achilles injuries have you had? Eight or ten
[1:56:52] Speaker 5: this year.
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: It still can happen. Like, dudes, don't drink, don't smoke,
[1:56:55] Speaker 4: don't party, don't do all this shit. You go out there, motherfucker,
[1:56:58] Speaker 4: and you can party. It's just a part of it, dog.
[1:57:03] Speaker 4: It's just what it is.
[1:57:04] Speaker 7: So, looking at Halliburton's injury set-up. You mean to tell
[1:57:06] Speaker 7: me LeBron don't drink liquor? LeBron drinks alcohol. He just
[1:57:09] Speaker 7: takes care of his body.
[1:57:11] Speaker 1: He does it a certain way.
[1:57:13] Speaker 5: He does certain things, man.
[1:57:15] Speaker 4: It's unfortunate for the guy that has these things occur
[1:57:18] Speaker 4: to him.
[1:57:18] Speaker 5: Bring back the Roids, man.
[1:57:21] Speaker 7: The views of Gilbert Arenas aren't necessarily those of underdog fantasy.
[1:57:25] Speaker 5: Get it off of mine. Get it off of mine.
[1:57:27] Speaker 5: Get it off of mine.
[1:57:29] Speaker 1: Get it off of mine.
[1:57:32] Speaker 5: Bring back the juice. Damn. They done proven.
[1:57:37] Speaker 7: If you say all these niggas on juice and this
[1:57:39] Speaker 7: is their home run, don't you want to be that
[1:57:41] Speaker 7: way again? Don't you want these new NBA players to
[1:57:44] Speaker 7: get rid of the dreads?
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: Bring the juice. Trust me.
[1:57:47] Speaker 5: Trust me, goddammit.
[1:57:48] Speaker 2: They gonna lose it. They gonna lose the dreads.
[1:57:50] Speaker 5: Natural.
[1:57:52] Speaker 7: You gonna have 22 again with the motherfucking ball head.
[1:57:56] Speaker 1: Look at them.
[1:57:56] Speaker 5: Pictures in the 80s.
[1:58:00] Speaker 2: They got the sunroof.
[1:58:01] Speaker 7: We thought they was 35.
[1:58:02] Speaker 1: Niggas is 23.
[1:58:03] Speaker 5: 23 years old. Niggas is 23. No kids.
[1:58:06] Speaker 2: Rookies.
[1:58:07] Speaker 7: Got the sunroof already. What you think they was doing
[1:58:11] Speaker 7: out there in the streets? You ain't seen a bald
[1:58:14] Speaker 7: head since they did the drug testing in 2004. You
[1:58:20] Speaker 7: ain't seen the goddamn bald head since.
[1:58:24] Speaker 5: Bring back words.
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
[1:58:27] Speaker 5: SGA.
[1:58:27] Speaker 2: Nigga got froze and curls and shit.
[1:58:29] Speaker 5: They're like, damn, our black men out here do it good.
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: That was the worst shit ever.
[1:58:34] Speaker 5: The 90s, everybody was Montel George. You still got hair.
[1:58:36] Speaker 2: You still got hair.
[1:58:37] Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen.
[1:58:39] Speaker 5: Damn, Sean.
[1:58:44] Speaker 3: Shaw, we did not show that on camera out of
[1:58:46] Speaker 3: respect for you and the McCann's family.
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: Good, good, good.
[1:58:49] Speaker 2: Child of the 90s.
[1:58:51] Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, the views of Gilbert
[1:58:54] Speaker 7: Arenas are not those of Underdog Fantasy or the rest
[1:58:56] Speaker 7: of the Gilbert Arenas staff.
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: He's a one-man band.
[1:58:59] Speaker 5: You know what?
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: What do I need this for?
[1:59:02] Speaker 5: Shit. This look a lot better.
[1:59:08] Speaker 4: My first few years, why was I shaving my head?
[1:59:11] Speaker 5: Why?
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: Hair full of hair.
[1:59:12] Speaker 5: Why was I.
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: Like, there it is.
[1:59:15] Speaker 5: Like, my rookie, like, why? Something to do.
[1:59:18] Speaker 7: There's something to, like... You knew it was coming back.
[1:59:21] Speaker 7: It was going back three days. Like, wasn't you just bald?
[1:59:25] Speaker 7: I was crazy. Listen, dude pushed my hairline back, dog.
[1:59:27] Speaker 1: I would go home. I would get a nice line.
[1:59:30] Speaker 5: I thought it was nice.
[1:59:32] Speaker 1: And I'd go home and look at that shit. Like, oh,
[1:59:34] Speaker 1: he got me.
[1:59:35] Speaker 4: Man, I would go home and ace him right off, dog.
[1:59:38] Speaker 4: And the dude would come like... Hit the text call like, damn,
[1:59:42] Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, nigga, yeah, you fucked up.
[1:59:44] Speaker 1: You fucked up.
[1:59:44] Speaker 5: You fucked up.
[1:59:45] Speaker 1: Do better next time. Yeah, do better next time.
[1:59:47] Speaker 10: You know how crazy you got to be to have
[1:59:48] Speaker 10: a full set of hair and go bald?
[1:59:51] Speaker 5: Just to do it.
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: Just to do it. Everybody was doing it back then.
[1:59:54] Speaker 2: Jalen Rose, Jake.
[1:59:56] Speaker 7: Everybody that's on TV now.
[1:59:59] Speaker 5: Everybody that's doing TV right now, look at them.
[2:00:02] Speaker 1: Ball head when they was playing.
[2:00:04] Speaker 10: That's the fucked up part about it.
[2:00:07] Speaker 7: How you supposed to be Mike when niggas who got
[2:00:10] Speaker 7: here today, your parents, was bald back then?
[2:00:13] Speaker 5: Chewing gum. Chewing gum, being bald on purpose. It's exhausting
[2:00:19] Speaker 5: trying to chew that gum like Mike. Chewing gum. Can't
[2:00:23] Speaker 5: breathe like a motherfucker. Like, how the fuck is this
[2:00:25] Speaker 5: nigga doing this, man?
[2:00:26] Speaker 2: Walking around like this.
[2:00:27] Speaker 10: How the nigga chewing his gum is like basketball, dog.
[2:00:31] Speaker 6: Just walking around.
[2:00:32] Speaker 2: Just walking around.
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: Just imagine, we kids.
[2:00:34] Speaker 7: I'm about to try to chew gum and play basketball.
[2:00:38] Speaker 5: I'm tired as a motherfucker. How is he doing this, man?
[2:00:41] Speaker 3: The gum starts disintegrating. Starts to disintegrate, get super dry,
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: loses its luster. But we talked about this a little
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: bit yesterday.
[2:00:50] Speaker 5: Now that we think about it, watching people with hair now,
[2:00:52] Speaker 5: y'all was sick as fuck.
[2:00:55] Speaker 2: Like, then J.K.
[2:00:56] Speaker 4: Come, he really good at the game, and he just,
[2:00:58] Speaker 4: he be doing this shit. I'm like, fuck, it's acceptable, right?
[2:01:01] Speaker 4: Then Kerry come, Kerry really good. He shaving this shit off.
[2:01:04] Speaker 4: I'm like, go to other places, nigga, ball. I'm like,
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: Chris Webb, ball. Ball, like, KG kicking ass.
[2:01:10] Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, all right, baby, that is the day.
[2:01:13] Speaker 5: Be ball.
[2:01:14] Speaker 1: Be ball. Give me some of that. Give me some
[2:01:16] Speaker 1: of that. Maybe I'll become an all-star. We talked about
[2:01:20] Speaker 1: this a little bit yesterday on the show.
[2:01:22] Speaker 7: I see where it's going. It's great seeing this shit.
[2:01:25] Speaker 7: Some of that shit.
[2:01:26] Speaker 5: Y'all think over there, man. I know you got it.
[2:01:30] Speaker 5: I know you got it in there. Show it to me. Nigga,
[2:01:35] Speaker 5: I seen it.
[2:01:36] Speaker 1: Don't hide it from me, god damn it. Never call
[2:01:39] Speaker 1: my people.
[2:01:40] Speaker 5: I came in when it was just one test. That
[2:01:41] Speaker 5: shit was crazy.
[2:01:42] Speaker 6: October 1st.
[2:01:42] Speaker 5: That was it.
[2:01:42] Speaker 1: October 2nd.
[2:01:43] Speaker 5: We're doing training camp. October 1st. Everybody take it. October 2nd.
[2:01:46] Speaker 5: Hit me, doc.
[2:02:01] Speaker 10: So yeah so rookies was four times all vets was once.
[2:02:11] Speaker 7: No not our rookie year no in 2000 no in
[2:02:16] Speaker 7: 2001 time no before training camp no gill no the
[2:02:19] Speaker 7: four times until i got the vets was once Rookies
[2:02:24] Speaker 7: was four times.
[2:02:26] Speaker 1: I got drafted in 2000, trust me.
[2:02:28] Speaker 7: I came in 2001, I didn't get four tested until
[2:02:31] Speaker 7: I got to Washington.
[2:02:33] Speaker 4: It was four times random. Vets was one because they
[2:02:36] Speaker 4: would call it the dummy test. If niggas failed it,
[2:02:39] Speaker 4: you was a dummy.
[2:02:40] Speaker 5: You knew they was coming.
[2:02:42] Speaker 1: You knew they was coming at some point during training camp.
[2:02:44] Speaker 4: It was coming. During training camp. It was coming during
[2:02:47] Speaker 4: training camp. How long training camp was, they was coming
[2:02:49] Speaker 4: during training camp. Was it the first day or the
[2:02:51] Speaker 4: last day of training, they was coming. for the vets,
[2:02:55] Speaker 4: then rookies was four times. Then when they switched it
[2:02:59] Speaker 4: to everybody four times, my second year in Denver.
[2:03:03] Speaker 1: I remember it was four times. 2005, 2006.
[2:03:05] Speaker 7: I remember it four times.
[2:03:10] Speaker 1: No, that was 2005, 2006.
[2:03:11] Speaker 4: Because my second year I smoked during the season, my
[2:03:15] Speaker 4: third year I smoked during the season.
[2:03:17] Speaker 5: Because you only got tested once.
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: I got tested.
[2:03:19] Speaker 5: No, I know I did. And that's okay, Ken.
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: You didn't have to get a blood test.
[2:03:23] Speaker 5: I did.
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that.
[2:03:24] Speaker 4: And then, listen, when I didn't, I had to get
[2:03:25] Speaker 4: fucking microfracture surgery. I had to get my patella repaired.
[2:03:28] Speaker 4: Had to get another microfracture surgery.
[2:03:31] Speaker 5: So, yeah.
[2:03:32] Speaker 1: There is hope with dope.
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: Listen, in real shit, they was giving me anti, and
[2:03:35] Speaker 4: I wouldn't take the anti-inflammatories in the first year. They
[2:03:38] Speaker 4: looked at my lock at the end of the year.
[2:03:39] Speaker 4: I had a fucking pharmacy in the top of that bitch.
[2:03:43] Speaker 5: I was small. Take the inflammatory. Who bought those, bro?
[2:03:47] Speaker 5: I left them in the locker.
[2:03:48] Speaker 4: They was going the next year, wasn't it? Yeah, I
[2:03:50] Speaker 4: left all that shit there. I wasn't taking them the
[2:03:51] Speaker 4: first three years, the first few years, bro.
[2:03:53] Speaker 3: So we talked about this a little bit on the
[2:03:55] Speaker 3: show yesterday, but we had three Eastern Conference stars who
[2:03:58] Speaker 3: all were number zero, suffered season-ending torn Achilles injuries. Dame Lillard,
[2:04:05] Speaker 3: obviously Tatum, Halliburton. All started with calf strains. Gil, you
[2:04:09] Speaker 3: said you talked to Tatum, you talked to Dame. They
[2:04:10] Speaker 3: said that they were experiencing pain in their calf with
[2:04:13] Speaker 3: the strain before the Achilles.
[2:04:15] Speaker 1: So I don't put this on Hallie.
[2:04:16] Speaker 3: I know all of you said on this couch that
[2:04:17] Speaker 3: you would all, in a similar situation, play in that game,
[2:04:21] Speaker 3: play for a championship.
[2:04:22] Speaker 1: But how much of this now? Of course, man. Look.
[2:04:24] Speaker 3: But how much of this now on a team to
[2:04:25] Speaker 3: step in and say, look, man, you've got the calf strain.
[2:04:27] Speaker 3: We've seen what this leads to with stars and superstars
[2:04:30] Speaker 3: in our league. Do you think this will change how
[2:04:32] Speaker 3: teams approach players with calf strains in postseason games going forward?
[2:04:36] Speaker 7: Yes, it should for the team itself because the player themselves–
[2:04:42] Speaker 7: It's been wired since they've been little to play no
[2:04:45] Speaker 7: matter what.
[2:04:48] Speaker 1: This is the biggest stage.
[2:04:53] Speaker 7: He might not ever play that game again. That game
[2:04:58] Speaker 7: seven in the championship, when he retires, one thing he
[2:05:02] Speaker 7: will always remember is he hit them three shots, he
[2:05:06] Speaker 7: was balling.
[2:05:08] Speaker 1: That's what gets to keep him sane.
[2:05:11] Speaker 7: So when you say keep it in the player's hand,
[2:05:14] Speaker 7: the player is going to trick himself every single time.
[2:05:17] Speaker 7: Kevin Durant, no matter what you say, would you play
[2:05:20] Speaker 7: in that game in Toronto? He's going to say yes.
[2:05:26] Speaker 7: It's a championship, dog. This is not round one. This
[2:05:30] Speaker 7: is the championship. Because in our mind, if we rewind...
[2:05:37] Speaker 7: I might not do that move. See, if I don't
[2:05:39] Speaker 7: do that move, I'm not going to tear my ACL. See,
[2:05:41] Speaker 7: we're going to always trick ourselves to say there's a
[2:05:44] Speaker 7: possibility where I'm not going to do it.
[2:05:46] Speaker 5: It's always 2020.
[2:05:48] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:05:48] Speaker 7: So we're going to always take the chances. That's what
[2:05:53] Speaker 7: we've been training for since we was fucking little kids.
[2:05:56] Speaker 1: This moment.
[2:05:59] Speaker 7: So the trainers in the organization is going to have
[2:06:04] Speaker 7: to tell us we can't play.
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: The trainer.
[2:06:08] Speaker 5: Like, nigga, don't show up.
[2:06:09] Speaker 1: The trainer?
[2:06:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that. We don't listen to them.
[2:06:12] Speaker 4: No, he can't say, man, it is out of his control.
[2:06:16] Speaker 5: The coach. The coach.
[2:06:17] Speaker 7: There's going to be somebody signing a check and the
[2:06:20] Speaker 7: motherfucker can't.
[2:06:22] Speaker 1: Hey, coach, but I'm not playing you.
[2:06:23] Speaker 5: They're going to have to put the name in. Don't
[2:06:25] Speaker 5: put his name in. Hey, brother, remove it.
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: Do that. Remove his jersey. It ain't even going to
[2:06:29] Speaker 1: be in the locker.
[2:06:30] Speaker 7: Listen, that's the thing, though. It's not going to be
[2:06:33] Speaker 7: in the locker if they just want him to play, right?
[2:06:36] Speaker 7: It's going to have to be out of his control.
[2:06:37] Speaker 7: The coach is going to be like, I'm not playing him.
[2:06:40] Speaker 7: Everybody got the memo, the head coach, I am not
[2:06:43] Speaker 7: playing him.
[2:06:44] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:06:45] Speaker 4: Don't put the jersey in the locker because I'm not
[2:06:47] Speaker 4: playing him. It's that simple, right? If you leave it
[2:06:50] Speaker 4: up because we're going to, listen, we're more important than
[2:06:53] Speaker 4: the trainer. The trainer has no say-so in this.
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: If it's one game, not two, I'll play.
[2:07:00] Speaker 5: If it's one game, if he would have played a
[2:07:02] Speaker 5: six game, if he didn't play the six game.
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: He'd play the seven game.
[2:07:06] Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. If it's just one game,
[2:07:08] Speaker 5: you could play.
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: Not two.
[2:07:10] Speaker 5: You can't keep going back to back.
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: Yes, he's going.
[2:07:12] Speaker 3: But he only played 23 minutes in that game six, obviously.
[2:07:14] Speaker 3: He's going.
[2:07:17] Speaker 5: Listen. From Gordon, he had a hamstring, right? Game seven.
[2:07:24] Speaker 7: If it's just one game, I'll do it. I can't
[2:07:27] Speaker 7: do it. You can't do two. But this is the
[2:07:30] Speaker 7: most important game. Six was important. This was even more
[2:07:33] Speaker 7: important than that one, right? This was for all the marbles.
[2:07:35] Speaker 7: At that point, you're facing elimination. That's important. I say
[2:07:40] Speaker 7: that's important.
[2:07:41] Speaker 4: They got over that hurdle, but this is.
[2:07:43] Speaker 1: For all the marbles now, right?
[2:07:45] Speaker 4: So no matter what nobody say, the trainer has no
[2:07:49] Speaker 4: say so in this, man.
[2:07:51] Speaker 5: I hear y'all.
[2:07:52] Speaker 4: Y'all want the medical staff to do their job. The
[2:07:55] Speaker 4: medical staff is really irrelevant in this situation because it's
[2:07:59] Speaker 4: going to take for the head coach to say, I'm
[2:08:01] Speaker 4: not going to play him. Because we can de-bow the trainer.
[2:08:03] Speaker 4: Whatever you say, I'm going to go over your head.
[2:08:06] Speaker 5: Nigga, I feel good.
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: Do these squats.
[2:08:08] Speaker 4: I'm saying, what's your relationship with the owner when you
[2:08:11] Speaker 4: was with the Wizards?
[2:08:12] Speaker 5: A1.
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: What you would have done?
[2:08:14] Speaker 5: Call him.
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: And say what? I'm ready.
[2:08:16] Speaker 4: I'm good. Tell him I can go. He's going to
[2:08:19] Speaker 4: be like, I spoke to Gilbert. Gilbert said he's fine.
[2:08:22] Speaker 8: Yep.
[2:08:23] Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, man, when it's for this, they
[2:08:26] Speaker 4: ain't never want it. Opportunity, all that shit.
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: Is right here.
[2:08:32] Speaker 4: It's out of the medical staff's hand at this point. Player,
[2:08:36] Speaker 4: head coach, ownership.
[2:08:40] Speaker 3: So we asked the chat, we asked the chat, you
[2:08:42] Speaker 3: highly regret playing in game six and seven. 76% of
[2:08:46] Speaker 3: the chat says no, but let's keep this thing moving.
[2:08:48] Speaker 1: We got to talk about a big trade that went down.
[2:08:50] Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not going to play you. If something,
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: if they knew, right?
[2:08:55] Speaker 4: If they went to the head coach and be like,
[2:08:57] Speaker 4: the owner be like, listen, what you think? He'd be like,
[2:09:00] Speaker 4: I'm not playing him because this could happen, right? It
[2:09:03] Speaker 4: would have been Rick Carlisle.
[2:09:05] Speaker 5: Whoever sent me the message.
[2:09:07] Speaker 1: Yeah. This has got to fight me.
[2:09:09] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: Say it.
[2:09:10] Speaker 5: This has got to fight me.
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: The coach that don't play me in the game seven.
[2:09:15] Speaker 5: Yeah. He has to be fired.
[2:09:16] Speaker 1: Whoever makes the decision. He has to be fired. Whoever
[2:09:19] Speaker 1: we're fighting.
[2:09:20] Speaker 5: We good. And you got to have to, like you said,
[2:09:23] Speaker 5: hide the jersey and all that type of shit.
[2:09:24] Speaker 1: Don't put the jersey on.
[2:09:25] Speaker 5: Oh, it's going to be a whole type of shit
[2:09:26] Speaker 5: going on in the locker room. It's going to be
[2:09:28] Speaker 5: a whole energy. But I have to respect the energy.
[2:09:30] Speaker 1: Just imagine how much of a. You got to respect
[2:09:32] Speaker 1: the energy.
[2:09:33] Speaker 4: How Rick Carlisle. People been around Rick. Rick know people like.
[2:09:37] Speaker 4: Rick didn't step in.
[2:09:39] Speaker 1: Right? I said, I'm not going to play. He could have.
[2:09:43] Speaker 4: I'm saying he could have, but he didn't. But this
[2:09:45] Speaker 4: is the opportunity for everybody.
[2:09:47] Speaker 5: So, this.
[2:09:49] Speaker 1: It happens. What did he give us?
[2:09:51] Speaker 5: He gave us how much percent of Halliburton in that
[2:09:53] Speaker 5: first quarter? All of it. Them nine points? You know
[2:09:58] Speaker 5: what them nine points felt like? That felt like 40.
[2:10:01] Speaker 5: I dig it. It felt like, listen, it's going to
[2:10:03] Speaker 5: be a long night for you niggas. You better hope
[2:10:06] Speaker 5: something like this happens to me. Because I came here
[2:10:10] Speaker 5: before the game.
[2:10:11] Speaker 1: Hey, let's go, Halliburton. You know what time it is.
[2:10:14] Speaker 1: Game seven.
[2:10:15] Speaker 5: We didn't come here for nothing but leaving here with
[2:10:17] Speaker 5: the trophy. Pacers in seven. So for it to happen,
[2:10:21] Speaker 5: it's devastating because he knew where he was going. He
[2:10:25] Speaker 5: knew where he was going.
[2:10:26] Speaker 7: Now this is where low management had taken over. When
[2:10:30] Speaker 7: you sit back making these decisions and you sit here
[2:10:34] Speaker 7: and say, fuck, was it worth it? Because we miss
[2:10:41] Speaker 7: them all next year. All that revenue we're going to
[2:10:44] Speaker 7: miss next year. Was it worth it for the business?
[2:10:49] Speaker 7: And they're going to say, fuck it wasn't. Because now
[2:10:51] Speaker 7: we might lose it. We're going to lose them all
[2:10:53] Speaker 7: next year and we might lose them another one. So
[2:10:55] Speaker 7: that means jersey sales, the ticket sales and playoff. Fuck,
[2:10:59] Speaker 7: we fucked up. That's the business part of it. And
[2:11:02] Speaker 7: that's why the business has taken over and jumped into.
[2:11:08] Speaker 4: To a certain degree I agree with you but they
[2:11:11] Speaker 4: are playing in Indianapolis they are the main attraction there
[2:11:16] Speaker 4: It won't be effective.
[2:11:18] Speaker 1: During this time, during the regular season, they.
[2:11:20] Speaker 5: Don't play at the same time.
[2:11:21] Speaker 1: They don't play at the same time.
[2:11:23] Speaker 5: No, he can feed.
[2:11:24] Speaker 1: They feed off of her. I get it. I get it.
[2:11:27] Speaker 7: But they feed off of her. They're going to stay.
[2:11:29] Speaker 7: They're going to stay. They're not coming to.
[2:11:32] Speaker 4: Games next season. They were playing at the same time
[2:11:37] Speaker 4: right now. They're probably not going to make it to
[2:11:40] Speaker 4: the finals next year without Ty. We understand that. But
[2:11:43] Speaker 4: their fan base, they're going to come support. I They're
[2:11:45] Speaker 4: still going. They're still going to sell out every home game.
[2:11:49] Speaker 4: All that's just still going to exist. Whether he's not
[2:11:52] Speaker 4: playing next year, we know that. I don't think any
[2:11:55] Speaker 4: of that is going to be effective for that team.
[2:11:57] Speaker 4: Because of where it is and what, there's nothing else
[2:11:59] Speaker 4: going on during that time. Got the Colts, of course,
[2:12:02] Speaker 4: people will support them. People been going to them games forever.
[2:12:04] Speaker 10: When they're 20 and 60, they ain't going to have
[2:12:06] Speaker 10: to answer a question.
[2:12:08] Speaker 5: It ain't the Wizards. They going, though. Small cities, that's
[2:12:12] Speaker 5: all they got. They going, though, no matter what.
[2:12:14] Speaker 7: There's nothing to do on that random Wednesday, trust me.
[2:12:18] Speaker 10: Ain't no hookah lounge to go to.
[2:12:22] Speaker 1: Just like that.
[2:12:23] Speaker 5: I was at the All-Star weekend. It's always been a
[2:12:25] Speaker 5: mile ready.
[2:12:25] Speaker 1: I'm like in Golden State where.
[2:12:26] Speaker 6: We won 20 games.
[2:12:26] Speaker 1: Packed. You know, it's the Raiders fans.
[2:12:28] Speaker 5: The Blackhawks fans. Are the Indiana Pacers a good team?
[2:12:29] Speaker 1: Yes. So with Halliburton, They're good enough to be considered
[2:12:51] Speaker 1: a good team in the NBA. No, without them, they're
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: a good team. With them, they're a better team. Are
[2:12:55] Speaker 1: they considered to be a good team with them?
[2:12:58] Speaker 5: Yes. No. Y'all trying to tell me that y'all wouldn't
[2:13:07] Speaker 5: go all in with this decision to play for game seven.
[2:13:12] Speaker 1: And not have a chance. To win your first chip
[2:13:15] Speaker 1: in franchising?
[2:13:16] Speaker 11: Yeah.
[2:13:17] Speaker 1: Of course we're going. We're going to play, right? And
[2:13:20] Speaker 1: the reason we're going to play is why?
[2:13:22] Speaker 5: Game seven, right? What y'all was saying about the management,
[2:13:28] Speaker 5: y'all wouldn't risk it.
[2:13:30] Speaker 4: Who said that? It was a hypothetical. I was saying
[2:13:35] Speaker 4: for him not to play, it would have taken that.
[2:13:39] Speaker 4: it would have taken the head coach to say, I'm
[2:13:41] Speaker 4: not playing him.
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: Because the players are going to do whatever. Because the players,
[2:13:44] Speaker 1: because we're going to, whatever the medical staff say, don't.
[2:13:46] Speaker 5: I'm saying, even as the owner and all of them,
[2:13:49] Speaker 5: I'm not making a decision to play it safe with
[2:13:51] Speaker 5: that because.
[2:13:52] Speaker 1: We're right here.
[2:13:52] Speaker 5: No, they didn't.
[2:13:53] Speaker 7: I'm saying, because they didn't. I'm saying, that's what it
[2:13:55] Speaker 7: would have taken.
[2:13:56] Speaker 4: But because they didn't do it, everybody was in a
[2:13:59] Speaker 4: line that he's going to play, right? There's an opportunity
[2:14:02] Speaker 4: for our organization to win our first championship. So everybody
[2:14:04] Speaker 4: was in alignment. But for him not to play the owner,
[2:14:09] Speaker 4: it would have taken a different mindset. That's what we're saying.
[2:14:13] Speaker 4: We're all saying that 1,000, we would have played, we
[2:14:16] Speaker 4: would have put him out there if it was us.
[2:14:17] Speaker 4: But that's what it would have taken for him not
[2:14:19] Speaker 4: to play. Like for the head coach, for the head
[2:14:22] Speaker 4: coach to call the owner and be like, I understand
[2:14:25] Speaker 4: what's at stake, but I care about this more than
[2:14:27] Speaker 4: the other. I'm not playing it. And then therefore, whatever
[2:14:30] Speaker 4: comes with that decision, the coach is going to have
[2:14:33] Speaker 4: to live with it. But that's not the case. So
[2:14:35] Speaker 4: Rick didn't do it.
[2:14:35] Speaker 5: You probably would have lost him too. As the owner,
[2:14:39] Speaker 5: the player might lose the player. Man, fuck this nigga.
[2:14:43] Speaker 5: Didn't they sit him out one game in the playoffs?
[2:14:47] Speaker 5: Didn't they sit Halliburton out last series?
[2:14:51] Speaker 1: Did he get hurt? Did he say.
[2:14:52] Speaker 5: That one game? I think last year.
[2:14:54] Speaker 1: I think last year. It wasn't this series? It was
[2:14:57] Speaker 1: a hand-me-in last year, right? I think he played all
[2:14:59] Speaker 1: the games this series.
[2:15:01] Speaker 5: Yes.
[2:15:01] Speaker 1: Even with the little tweak.
[2:15:05] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[2:15:05] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. We got
[2:15:08] Speaker 3: to talk about a big trade that went down. Offseason
[2:15:10] Speaker 3: officially underway. Trades keep rolling in. Another one that just happened?
[2:15:15] Speaker 3: So yesterday, Drew Holiday was dealt from the Celtics in
[2:15:17] Speaker 3: a salary-shedding move.
[2:15:18] Speaker 5: You said big trade. God damn. Crazy. Losing it, ain't it?
[2:15:24] Speaker 5: Fucking losing it. Hey, champagne, get him a drink.
[2:15:27] Speaker 1: This man says big trade.
[2:15:30] Speaker 5: I thought I was fucking with someone.
[2:15:34] Speaker 7: Are we going to report every trade? If Al Thornton
[2:15:38] Speaker 7: gets traded, we got to report that shit? Listen, if
[2:15:42] Speaker 7: Jalen Brown gets traded, tell us about that. If White
[2:15:47] Speaker 7: gets traded, Tell us about that.
[2:15:49] Speaker 1: Who the fuck got traded?
[2:15:50] Speaker 5: Simmons? Simmons! What is the nigga's name? What is the
[2:15:54] Speaker 5: nigga's name? Simmons, right?
[2:15:56] Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
[2:16:00] Speaker 5: Nigga got traded for Harvey Grant, the nigga daddy. Damn. Hey, hey, hey.
[2:16:07] Speaker 2: Yo, daddy owe me money still.
[2:16:09] Speaker 5: To be honest, he owe me like $ 13, 000.
[2:16:11] Speaker 7: $ 14, 000 from the gambling when he was doing.
[2:16:13] Speaker 1: We was a player coach.
[2:16:14] Speaker 5: The nigga ain't good.
[2:16:15] Speaker 1: I should have pulled the gun on him.
[2:16:17] Speaker 5: I should have pulled one on him. If I ever
[2:16:23] Speaker 5: see your dad, tell him, there's going to be some numbers.
[2:16:26] Speaker 7: We're giving Drew Holiday, San Fernando Valley legend, his respect.
[2:16:30] Speaker 1: We're giving Drew Holiday, San Fernando Valley legend, his respect, Gil.
[2:16:34] Speaker 1: You're right. He is the greatest player to come out
[2:16:36] Speaker 1: of San Fernando Valley.
[2:16:38] Speaker 5: Erase everything I just said. He is one of us.
[2:16:41] Speaker 1: Now you might see his daddy. You'll see his mom
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: and his daddy on the streets.
[2:16:47] Speaker 3: So yesterday, Drew Holiday was dealt from the Celtics in
[2:16:49] Speaker 3: a salary shedding move that many suspected.
[2:16:51] Speaker 1: So here are the details.
[2:16:53] Speaker 3: Celtics traded Drew Holiday to the Portland Trail Blazers for
[2:16:55] Speaker 3: Anthony Simons, two second-round picks.
[2:16:57] Speaker 5: Oh, it's Simons.
[2:16:58] Speaker 3: Sending Drew Holiday back to the Blazers where he was
[2:17:00] Speaker 3: traded to in the Dame trade when he was with
[2:17:02] Speaker 3: the Bucs. Portland now requires Holiday to lead his young
[2:17:07] Speaker 3: development squad for Boston. They land Simons on an aspiring contract.
[2:17:11] Speaker 3: Holiday owed around $ 74 million in the next two seasons.
[2:17:14] Speaker 3: The deal saves Boston $ 40 million in luxury tax payments
[2:17:18] Speaker 3: next season, according to ESPN's Bobby Marks. Simon's just 26,
[2:17:21] Speaker 3: averaged 19 points per game for the Blazers last season.
[2:17:24] Speaker 3: Do you like this trade for the Celtics? And it
[2:17:26] Speaker 3: seems like this may be one of many for Boston.
[2:17:30] Speaker 5: Athletic wing? You can score. I mean, it makes sense.
[2:17:35] Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you're trying to field in the
[2:17:38] Speaker 7: void for Tatum.
[2:17:39] Speaker 5: We're having that.
[2:17:41] Speaker 10: But where do we play at, though? Because Brown, they
[2:17:43] Speaker 10: like the same height.
[2:17:44] Speaker 1: But that's what you need. You need him and Brown
[2:17:46] Speaker 1: to be the same. Play the 2-3. Yeah.
[2:17:50] Speaker 10: All of these six five He can't play the point
[2:17:54] Speaker 10: that's what I'm saying Are you with the shoes.
[2:17:56] Speaker 5: Off the bench because he could score but it was
[2:17:58] Speaker 5: listed at six three some about six three plays point
[2:18:00] Speaker 5: shooting guard and They're going to put him on the ball.
[2:18:10] Speaker 5: He's about 6'5.
[2:18:10] Speaker 7: So they're putting him at the shooting guard.
[2:18:12] Speaker 5: He's 6'3. No, that's off. Oh, okay. Average 19 last season.
[2:18:14] Speaker 5: Average 23 a game. He can get the puck.
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: It's up great, man. Drew is getting a little bit older.
[2:18:19] Speaker 1: And he's athletic. That's what you need. What they needed
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: from Drew, they got from Drew.
[2:18:22] Speaker 5: They got a championship. They got it. You could have
[2:18:36] Speaker 5: got something else. Like what? You could have got something else.
[2:18:40] Speaker 5: Was it 23, 24? Everybody won't drool, though.
[2:18:43] Speaker 1: 26 years old.
[2:18:43] Speaker 5: Tatum, 27.
[2:18:44] Speaker 1: Jalen, 27.
[2:18:44] Speaker 5: 28? That's a good trade. He can't stay there. He
[2:18:47] Speaker 5: can't stay there, my bad. I didn't get up all
[2:18:48] Speaker 5: that much.
[2:18:48] Speaker 6: Everything.
[2:18:49] Speaker 5: How'd they get all that much? Off. $ 40 million off
[2:18:51] Speaker 5: the luxury tax.
[2:18:51] Speaker 1: There's still $ 18 million over the second apron. which means
[2:19:07] Speaker 1: they're going to have to do some more, make some
[2:19:09] Speaker 1: more moves.
[2:19:09] Speaker 5: Porzingis is definitely next.
[2:19:10] Speaker 1: He is definitely on his way out.
[2:19:11] Speaker 5: Laker's one of the potential options for Porzingis, according to reports.
[2:19:15] Speaker 1: I'm talking Lakers. No, we're good.
[2:19:17] Speaker 7: He's from 1942. They don't know what the fuck's going
[2:19:30] Speaker 7: on with that nigga. We just talked about Jordan Poole
[2:19:33] Speaker 7: and y'all like him. He's got a mystery illness. He
[2:19:36] Speaker 7: got a mystery illness.
[2:19:37] Speaker 5: Mystery. For Boston.
[2:19:39] Speaker 1: He got his own disease.
[2:19:40] Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait. We just talked about Jordan Poole and
[2:19:42] Speaker 5: they like Simon. Yep. Poole.
[2:19:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, for Boston?
[2:19:45] Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, my.
[2:19:46] Speaker 1: The way they play.
[2:19:47] Speaker 5: Absolutely. They got to get rid of all that money.
[2:19:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:19:51] Speaker 5: Oh, my. They got to get rid of all that money.
[2:19:53] Speaker 1: Drew Holiday is older.
[2:19:55] Speaker 5: Just imagine, Nick. I had to hear y'all talk about
[2:19:57] Speaker 5: all that shit yesterday without being here. Drew Holiday?
[2:20:02] Speaker 1: I wish we could bring it back up.
[2:20:04] Speaker 5: What's that? Drew Holiday? Kobe. You're talking about Kobe. All right,
[2:20:07] Speaker 5: I'm going to leave.
[2:20:08] Speaker 1: We had a one-day moratorium.
[2:20:13] Speaker 5: It's 2 o'clock, man.
[2:20:14] Speaker 10: I ain't trying to be here until 2.15.
[2:20:17] Speaker 1: I'm drunk.
[2:20:19] Speaker 5: I'm almost finished with my bottom.
[2:20:21] Speaker 4: Speaking of how you remember talking about the Ace Bailey shit,
[2:20:22] Speaker 4: why are you talking about him dropping right?
[2:20:24] Speaker 5: You said he's 6'7, not 6'10.
[2:20:24] Speaker 1: Who, Ace Bailey?
[2:20:25] Speaker 5: All right. So we ain't going to talk about it.
[2:20:31] Speaker 5: I'm just making sure.
[2:20:32] Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it, man.
[2:20:34] Speaker 5: That's all?
[2:20:35] Speaker 1: You're here today. You are here tomorrow. He want to
[2:20:37] Speaker 1: put that mask on.
[2:20:38] Speaker 5: Go ahead and put the mask on. Tell him how
[2:20:41] Speaker 5: you feel.
[2:20:41] Speaker 7: Tell him how you feel, Larry.
[2:20:45] Speaker 5: Sunny, nigga.
[2:20:46] Speaker 1: Oh, you're sunny now.
[2:20:47] Speaker 5: Making it sunny in this motherfucker.
[2:20:49] Speaker 1: Full circle sunny.
[2:20:51] Speaker 5: Full circle sunny. You know, I ain't got time for
[2:20:55] Speaker 5: this Kobe shit. I'm taking my champagne. I'm out of here.
[2:21:01] Speaker 1: Get they ass balls, man. Go on and retrieve more cake.
[2:21:08] Speaker 6: He gonna.
[2:21:10] Speaker 4: Blow shit all over the back of the toilet. Nigga
[2:21:13] Speaker 4: drinking that Prosecco on top of that motherfucking cake.
[2:21:16] Speaker 5: Get him, boss, man.
[2:21:18] Speaker 7: He going to blow.
[2:21:20] Speaker 1: Shit all over the back of the toilet, I'm telling you.
[2:21:22] Speaker 5: We're going to be stinking. Dirty ass. Mud butt.
[2:21:27] Speaker 3: From the Drew Holiday trade to mud butt talk here
[2:21:30] Speaker 3: on Gills Arena. You got something on your mind? We
[2:21:33] Speaker 3: got a little bit of time. We also have a
[2:21:35] Speaker 3: full show tomorrow.
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: I got him. No time, bro.
[2:21:39] Speaker 5: What?
[2:21:39] Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't hear what I got
[2:21:40] Speaker 1: to say, man. I'm boss, man.
[2:21:42] Speaker 5: I got him.
[2:21:42] Speaker 1: I'm with you, boss. I'm with you, boss, man. I
[2:21:44] Speaker 1: got him.
[2:21:45] Speaker 5: I got him, boss, man.
[2:21:45] Speaker 1: You brought the hammers, so lay it down.
[2:21:47] Speaker 5: I got him, boss, man. You brought the hammers. Tell
[2:21:49] Speaker 5: him how you feel.
[2:21:50] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll say this.
[2:21:54] Speaker 5: I created this platform called Dream, right? Where you can
[2:21:58] Speaker 5: use your imagination to create scenarios that never happen, but
[2:22:03] Speaker 5: you can make them come to life. Right? So scenarios
[2:22:07] Speaker 5: like you wanting to Play with certain guys. Feel the
[2:22:11] Speaker 5: exhilaration of winning with those guys.
[2:22:14] Speaker 1: You can come to the platform. You can put it
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: in the prompt.
[2:22:19] Speaker 5: I want to see what happens when I play with Shaq.
[2:22:24] Speaker 5: And then it'll show you. Right? Because it's called recall.
[2:22:28] Speaker 5: Recalling your imaginations. But when you step out of recall,
[2:22:32] Speaker 5: it's back to reality. The reality is there's only one
[2:22:35] Speaker 5: guy who did that. So everybody else can imagine all
[2:22:39] Speaker 5: they want about what would happen if you was to
[2:22:42] Speaker 5: do this or that with this guy. We can't stop
[2:22:46] Speaker 5: your imagination. But what we can say is in reality,
[2:22:51] Speaker 5: in reality, there was only one guy who did these things.
[2:22:54] Speaker 5: And he did it by backing up all of these things.
[2:22:57] Speaker 5: So regardless of what you think, Should exist or shouldn't exist.
[2:23:00] Speaker 5: When you want to come and imagine being something you're not.
[2:23:04] Speaker 1: In the matrix. Just come in the matrix.
[2:23:05] Speaker 5: Just come over here. Put it in the prompt. We'll
[2:23:08] Speaker 5: make it a movie. We'll make it a documentary. And
[2:23:11] Speaker 5: we can live forever. A dream.
[2:23:13] Speaker 10: It's called a dream. You can be what you want
[2:23:17] Speaker 10: to be.
[2:23:18] Speaker 8: Man.
[2:23:18] Speaker 5: I can put this on and be somebody if I
[2:23:21] Speaker 5: want to. I can wear the belt. You know what
[2:23:23] Speaker 5: I'm saying? I can wear jerseys like this.
[2:23:25] Speaker 1: This is a jersey. I just want to be what
[2:23:27] Speaker 1: I want to be.
[2:23:29] Speaker 5: And I'm just saying, like, imagination is everything. Imagination is everything.
[2:23:34] Speaker 5: Don't lose that. Tell people don't lose that.
[2:23:36] Speaker 1: Don't lose your imagination.
[2:23:37] Speaker 5: Don't lose your creativity. Man, because if we all could
[2:23:39] Speaker 5: play with Shaq, we would all be three-time champs. From
[2:23:43] Speaker 5: last year. Yeah. Three-time, I need to be one.
[2:23:50] Speaker 1: Recall, XR, coming soon. Recall, recall. I just want to
[2:23:53] Speaker 1: be with that team. Dream.
[2:23:55] Speaker 5: I know they have some hoes. That team? What? Laker, Shaq,
[2:23:59] Speaker 5: and Kobe. Get in the fucking way from you, man.
[2:24:01] Speaker 5: This dude is crazy.
[2:24:02] Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying, like, that's not what y'all be
[2:24:04] Speaker 7: thinking about. Think about the dusty-ass bitches we had. Like,
[2:24:07] Speaker 7: think about if we was.
[2:24:08] Speaker 5: With, like, A.I. Huh?
[2:24:10] Speaker 1: Who?
[2:24:10] Speaker 5: What? Huh? Imagine being with Kobe, Shaq.
[2:24:14] Speaker 1: What?
[2:24:15] Speaker 5: We would have had top tier.
[2:24:16] Speaker 1: Hey, you know what I mean? I don't mean to
[2:24:19] Speaker 1: bring this up.
[2:24:20] Speaker 5: Hey, Denver. When y'all went out in Denver, like, what?
[2:24:23] Speaker 5: I'm a happily married man. Yeah, we are. But when
[2:24:26] Speaker 5: you was in Denver. I'm a happily married man. Okay, okay.
[2:24:30] Speaker 1: You smart.
[2:24:31] Speaker 5: You know, you smart, man.
[2:24:33] Speaker 1: Family man. You didn't play with nobody important, so I
[2:24:38] Speaker 1: can't even ask you.
[2:24:40] Speaker 5: Ticket was meant.
[2:24:41] Speaker 1: Was that the only thing?
[2:24:42] Speaker 5: So now I got to go to your.
[2:24:45] Speaker 7: Platform so I can imagine that I was with Shaq
[2:24:48] Speaker 7: and Cole.
[2:24:50] Speaker 1: Because I heard every.
[2:24:51] Speaker 5: Time they showed up.
[2:24:52] Speaker 1: Oh!
[2:24:53] Speaker 5: Everywhere.
[2:24:54] Speaker 7: And on that note, let us know. Because I can
[2:24:56] Speaker 7: tell you, with the Golden State.
[2:24:57] Speaker 5: Warriors, all y'all on the Golden.
[2:25:00] Speaker 7: State Warriors, y'all girlfriends should have been proud of y'all
[2:25:05] Speaker 7: because y'all ain't have shit moving. Nobody came to y'all
[2:25:09] Speaker 7: motherfucking hotel being 6 and 47.
[2:25:14] Speaker 1: I mean, y'all wives over.
[2:25:17] Speaker 5: There asking, is my man cheating? I'm telling you now.
[2:25:20] Speaker 5: Hell no.
[2:25:20] Speaker 7: Nobody was in them hotels waiting for their sorry ass.
[2:25:26] Speaker 5: Nobody was waiting for them.
[2:25:27] Speaker 2: I was confused.
[2:25:29] Speaker 5: I thought, shit, I should have been back in college.
[2:25:31] Speaker 5: It was so dry on the Warriors.
[2:25:33] Speaker 7: Me as an NBA player, I was calling back old.
[2:25:35] Speaker 5: Girls in high school that dropped me. Hey, I'm NBA now.
[2:25:41] Speaker 2: What's up?
[2:25:42] Speaker 5: Because there was nothing.
[2:25:44] Speaker 1: On that note, we have Mousy fans.
[2:25:46] Speaker 7: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo husband. Yo girl, yo boyfriend
[2:25:51] Speaker 7: was faithful.
[2:25:53] Speaker 5: Trust me. We know your mama. All the kids. Even
[2:25:56] Speaker 5: when I went to the Wizards. A gillibuster, if you will. Try. Try, dog.
[2:26:03] Speaker 1: It's Not a hoe in sight. Nobody outside? No.
[2:26:15] Speaker 5: I got none. I had not one hoe. I was
[2:26:17] Speaker 5: faithful on accident.
[2:26:19] Speaker 7: I had to go back in college, meet college girls,
[2:26:24] Speaker 7: all because nothing.
[2:26:26] Speaker 1: There was nothing.
[2:26:28] Speaker 5: I had Antoine James and all. You know the one
[2:26:30] Speaker 5: that wanted to hang out? No, that was the star, Antoine. Oh,
[2:26:33] Speaker 5: he was a star.
[2:26:34] Speaker 2: It was corporate America. Corporate America.
[2:26:37] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody.
[2:26:38] Speaker 5: What? Damn.
[2:26:40] Speaker 3: On that note, let us ask our Muggy fans for
[2:26:43] Speaker 3: a question.
[2:26:45] Speaker 5: They were too scared of him. Yeah. Scaring the work.
[2:26:50] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Goddamn.
[2:26:53] Speaker 1: So our question is from underdoguserish24.
[2:26:57] Speaker 3: Did the Suns get more for KD than the Mavs
[2:26:59] Speaker 3: got for Luka? What assets are more valuable? As a reminder,
[2:27:02] Speaker 3: Luka was traded for AD, Max, Chrissy, 2029, first round pick.
[2:27:06] Speaker 3: KD traded for Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green, the number 10 pick,
[2:27:09] Speaker 3: and five.
[2:27:11] Speaker 1: Count them five second-round picks.
[2:27:18] Speaker 5: Dallas got back AD and the number one pick. What
[2:27:22] Speaker 5: was the question again?
[2:27:24] Speaker 1: Did the Suns get more for KD than the Mavs
[2:27:26] Speaker 1: got for Luka? What assets are more valuable?
[2:27:31] Speaker 5: Ooh. You got the number one pick. Number one pick.
[2:27:34] Speaker 5: And AD. But you got AD too.
[2:27:35] Speaker 1: You got something. You got AD and the number one pick.
[2:27:38] Speaker 1: You got two number one picks. Not the number one pick. Who, Dallas?
[2:27:42] Speaker 5: Dallas got the number one pick.
[2:27:44] Speaker 1: They still have a 20-29. In the trade.
[2:27:47] Speaker 7: No, no, no.
[2:27:48] Speaker 1: No, no.
[2:27:48] Speaker 5: Yes, they did.
[2:27:51] Speaker 1: They did.
[2:27:52] Speaker 5: No matter how you want to look at it.
[2:27:55] Speaker 7: The way the record went and how they was losing
[2:27:57] Speaker 7: because Luka was gone.
[2:27:58] Speaker 5: And they got the number one pick.
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: So you got to look at it as a group.
[2:28:03] Speaker 5: Number one pick and what pick?
[2:28:04] Speaker 1: 29 first round pick. 29 first round pick. Yeah, that's
[2:28:10] Speaker 1: a good ass pick. Hey, man, whatever happened to.
[2:28:17] Speaker 5: That hooker you came in the league with? Oh, my God, man. Hey,
[2:28:22] Speaker 5: wrap this up, man. I don't want to be here
[2:28:24] Speaker 5: with him at all.
[2:28:25] Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying, whatever happened to her? I ain't
[2:28:28] Speaker 7: saying this. The girl you came in with, that Puerto Rican.
[2:28:33] Speaker 1: Oh, man.
[2:28:33] Speaker 5: The track.
[2:28:34] Speaker 1: You know what?
[2:28:34] Speaker 5: That's it.
[2:28:35] Speaker 1: What? Because I know we dropped her. She was bad
[2:28:39] Speaker 1: for the brand.
[2:28:40] Speaker 3: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, thank you to everybody
[2:28:42] Speaker 3: in the chat for coming to the show.
[2:28:44] Speaker 1: What was the question?
[2:28:45] Speaker 6: At this point.
[2:28:46] Speaker 5: She was over there trying to fight the nigga before.
[2:28:48] Speaker 1: The show's going on for real.
[2:28:49] Speaker 5: You don't remember?
[2:28:50] Speaker 3: Did the Suns get more for KD than the Mavs
[2:28:53] Speaker 3: got for Luka?
[2:28:53] Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just trying to.
[2:28:55] Speaker 1: Keep the show alive, y'all. So we can be back tomorrow.
[2:29:03] Speaker 1: You forgot.
[2:29:05] Speaker 5: I forgot.
[2:29:05] Speaker 1: Did the Suns get more for KD?
[2:29:07] Speaker 5: I think Dallas got more.
[2:29:12] Speaker 4: Than the Mavs got for Luka. I think Jalen Green,
[2:29:16] Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks. I'm going to go Phoenix.
[2:29:19] Speaker 5: Phoenix?
[2:29:20] Speaker 1: They got four, right?
[2:29:21] Speaker 5: Four and Dylan Brooks.
[2:29:22] Speaker 7: They got the number 10 pick for the second round. No,
[2:29:25] Speaker 7: 10 pick Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, fourth. Yeah, I'm going
[2:29:30] Speaker 7: to go with Phoenix. What second round picks did they get?
[2:29:32] Speaker 1: So they got one this year, and then they got
[2:29:34] Speaker 1: some future ones. But they don't know the dates on them.
[2:29:36] Speaker 5: Absolutely.
[2:29:37] Speaker 1: Because those are just hoops that really just work. They
[2:29:39] Speaker 1: about to get off Bradley Beal.
[2:29:40] Speaker 5: I know.
[2:29:41] Speaker 1: We don't know how.
[2:29:42] Speaker 5: I don't think they can. They got to buy him out. Yeah,
[2:29:45] Speaker 5: but they getting off Bradley Beal.
[2:29:46] Speaker 1: They can buy him out?
[2:29:47] Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
[2:29:47] Speaker 1: Whatever they got to do to get off of that,
[2:29:49] Speaker 1: he's done.
[2:29:49] Speaker 5: Absolutely.
[2:29:50] Speaker 1: They got to. They got to get off of that now.
[2:29:52] Speaker 5: Beal, you ain't nothing.
[2:29:53] Speaker 1: There's one more year on that deal, right, for Bradley Beal?
[2:29:56] Speaker 5: Nothing.
[2:29:57] Speaker 7: All you do is settle it. If it's two years,
[2:29:59] Speaker 7: that's one thing. If it's one more, I think it
[2:30:00] Speaker 7: might be two more years.
[2:30:01] Speaker 5: All you do is feel it.
[2:30:03] Speaker 1: Bill, yeah. It's two more years, right? The bread is flowing.
[2:30:06] Speaker 5: Hey, man.
[2:30:07] Speaker 2: Hey, chat.
[2:30:08] Speaker 5: Y'all tripping, chat.
[2:30:09] Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it's going to be a John Wall situation. They're
[2:30:12] Speaker 4: going to pay him to stay home, unfortunately.
[2:30:14] Speaker 1: Hey, the chat tripping. The chat.
[2:30:16] Speaker 5: Who? You was who?
[2:30:17] Speaker 1: Bill.
[2:30:18] Speaker 4: Bradley Bill? No disrespect for Bradley Bill, man. He's been
[2:30:21] Speaker 4: an amazing player in this NBA, but who? I have
[2:30:23] Speaker 4: so many eyes. But I'm just saying. No, this is
[2:30:25] Speaker 4: the real who.
[2:30:26] Speaker 5: Who?
[2:30:26] Speaker 1: Tomato get boxed. Over Simons?
[2:30:31] Speaker 5: No. But he's the same with him and Jalen Brown?
[2:30:35] Speaker 5: I like Simons. You can't find nowhere else for him
[2:30:39] Speaker 5: than Boston? Milwaukee?
[2:30:42] Speaker 1: I like Anthony Simons, man.
[2:30:46] Speaker 5: Perfect.
[2:30:47] Speaker 4: I like Anthony Simons. Yeah, he had good coaching the
[2:30:52] Speaker 4: last couple years.
[2:30:52] Speaker 1: I like Simons getting rid of White. No, no, no.
[2:30:59] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I like White, man. You can get more.
[2:31:04] Speaker 5: No, it has nothing to do with that. He is valuable.
[2:31:07] Speaker 5: You can get more for him.
[2:31:09] Speaker 1: For Derek White?
[2:31:10] Speaker 5: Yes, he's the most expendable, valuable piece that you can get.
[2:31:13] Speaker 5: But he is a Boston Celtics. I know. I said
[2:31:16] Speaker 5: I wanted to keep Drew so we can just use
[2:31:19] Speaker 5: him as the most valuable piece. So they get rid
[2:31:22] Speaker 5: of Drew. They're saying, look, if Drew was the point guard,
[2:31:25] Speaker 5: point guard. It was the bring it up point guard.
[2:31:28] Speaker 5: Derrick White was the, I can play point guard. Now
[2:31:31] Speaker 5: it's Derrick White, are you going to be the point guard,
[2:31:33] Speaker 5: point guard? No. Anthony Simons is. So now, what do
[2:31:36] Speaker 5: we do with you? Will we keep you where we are?
[2:31:39] Speaker 5: Just shoot? Hey man, where my bottle at? That shit gone, man.
[2:31:44] Speaker 5: They took that shit from me.
[2:31:45] Speaker 1: You have been cut off, sir.
[2:31:47] Speaker 5: Hey, man, we still talking basketball, man. I think it
[2:31:50] Speaker 5: still can be.
[2:31:51] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Come on. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
[2:31:54] Speaker 1: With the light-seeing face. It's supposed to be 11-3.
[2:31:57] Speaker 2: End of the show, man.
[2:31:58] Speaker 11: I got it.
[2:31:58] Speaker 1: With the light-seeing face. You don't have a name.
[2:32:00] Speaker 5: My girl oscillating up there, man. I got to give
[2:32:03] Speaker 5: her this championship. SGA's pop is available.
[2:32:06] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
[2:32:08] Speaker 5: I always wanted to do this with.
[2:32:09] Speaker 2: The bucket hat.
[2:32:10] Speaker 5: I wanted to fly this shit. Hold on.
[2:32:12] Speaker 1: And on that note, thank you to everybody in the chat.
[2:32:14] Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody on this couch.
[2:32:15] Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, this has.
[2:32:17] Speaker 1: Been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:32:19] Speaker 5: We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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