# Tatum's HOSTILE Message To Steve Kerr Fires Up Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 21 Jan 2025, 2 h 34 min.

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Jayson Tatum's HOSTILE Message To Steve Kerr Fires Up Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Boston Celtics 40 point beat down on the Golden State Warriors and break down Tatum curving Steve Kerr after the game to send a message over his Team USA benching. They also discuss what another blowout loss means for the future of the Warriors season and debate what it would take to drive Steph Curry to a different team at the end of his career. Next, they react to Scottie Pippen's insane comments that he's a better team player than LeBron James and discuss the current state of the Chicago Bulls, debating if the team should trade Zach Lavine or keep him to make a push to the playoffs. Finally, The Gil's Arena Crew reacts to Kevin Durant's list of his Top 5 Pure Hoopers and names their own before previewing the NFL Playoffs with the legendary Steve Smith. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Kenyon Martin & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL To get $15 off your first order and find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Player Introductions 0:02:09 Show Start 0:03:54 Ohio State Wins National Championship 0:08:35 What City Has The Worst Drivers? 0:13:56 Tatum Sends A Hostile Message To Steve Kerr 0:20:51 Are The Warriors A Play-In Team 0:46:30 Will Steph Ever Force His Way Out? 0:56:17 Ro Sparks Ad 1:03:26 Pippen Says He's Better Than LeBron James 1:07:09 Pippen & MJ Are Finished 1:46:22 NFL Preview With NFL Legend Steve Smith 1:55:30 Martin Luther Cream 2:17:45 MostlyFans 2:22:53 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: And now, your Gills Arena starting lineups. 6'4 guard out
[0:09] Speaker 1: of Arizona, He, He, He, Bocce, Gilbert Arena.
[0:17] Speaker 2: Wow.
[0:18] Speaker 3: Sir. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
[0:30] Speaker 1: Next, we have 6'9 forward from Oak Cliff, Texas, your
[0:36] Speaker 1: favorite bully's favorite bully, Kenyon Martin!
[0:46] Speaker 2: Kenyon Martin! And six-floor guard from North Carolina, Cemetery Lake.
[0:56] Speaker 4: Rashad McCann!
[0:57] Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.
[0:58] Speaker 5: Wow.
[0:59] Speaker 6: Wow.
[1:22] Speaker 3: Who was doing that shit?
[1:27] Speaker 1: Merely a host from UCLA, Josiah Johnson.
[1:37] Speaker 2: Let's get it. Let's get it.
[1:39] Speaker 3: Gills Arena on three.
[1:44] Speaker 2: One, two, three.
[1:44] Speaker 3: Gills Arena.
[1:46] Speaker 2: You can't hear my dumb.
[1:51] Speaker 3: I ain't gonna.
[1:57] Speaker 2: Lie, I like these.
[2:01] Speaker 3: I better not see no other shows start doing this neither.
[2:04] Speaker 2: I'm kind of close to you for having all this
[2:08] Speaker 2: couch over here. It's a lot of space and opportunity, King.
[2:11] Speaker 3: A whole lot of couch over here. Welcome back to
[2:13] Speaker 3: Gills Arena presented by Underdog. So we already introduced everybody.
[2:21] Speaker 2: How we doing?
[2:22] Speaker 3: We good?
[2:22] Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Hold on.
[2:24] Speaker 3: I'm just stalling until I get my computer on.
[2:25] Speaker 5: You ain't supposed to do that before you go.
[2:28] Speaker 2: Okay. Well, shit. Work your progress. Work your progress.
[2:31] Speaker 3: Everybody had a good MLK day?
[2:35] Speaker 2: Martin Luther Kreme?
[2:36] Speaker 5: No?
[2:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't.
[2:39] Speaker 3: What did you do on that day?
[2:41] Speaker 2: Reflect. It was eventful. I watched y'all. We saw you
[2:49] Speaker 2: active in the chat.
[2:50] Speaker 7: Talk about Martin Luther King and how he really was shit.
[2:55] Speaker 3: It was all good.
[2:57] Speaker 5: It was just a week ago. It was funny. What
[3:02] Speaker 5: do you do on that day? Kids just don't have school.
[3:05] Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. You just got to watch your kids.
[3:08] Speaker 2: You know what you do on that day.
[3:10] Speaker 3: You watch some NBA, but you also watch Gills Arena
[3:12] Speaker 3: presented by Underdog. We appreciate you, everybody, who pulled up
[3:15] Speaker 3: yesterday to check out the show. We was about 18,000
[3:18] Speaker 3: deep in the chat. Very productive. But we got a
[3:22] Speaker 3: lot to get into today. So for all the fans
[3:24] Speaker 3: out there, we still got two viewing options for you.
[3:26] Speaker 3: Our traditional mobile version. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version.
[3:29] Speaker 3: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[3:32] Speaker 3: you watch the show. So here's what's cracking in the
[3:34] Speaker 3: arena today. Celtics pulled up to the Bay on MLK
[3:37] Speaker 3: Day and 40-piece the Warriors. What message did Tatum and
[3:41] Speaker 3: Brown send by Curving Cur? I know y'all seen the
[3:43] Speaker 3: video after the game. They was not giving him no
[3:46] Speaker 3: love or acknowledgement. Zach Levine has been cooking for Chicago
[3:50] Speaker 3: this season. Should the Bulls hold on to their two-time
[3:52] Speaker 3: All-Star or look to make a move before the deadline?
[3:56] Speaker 3: And KD recently revealed his list for top five pure hoopers.
[4:01] Speaker 3: But was he spitting or tripping? Before we get into
[4:03] Speaker 3: all that, as always, this show is brought to you
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[4:10] Speaker 3: As for tonight's cemetery, Larry has some picks up in
[4:12] Speaker 3: his partner pack on the Underdog app. So you got
[4:16] Speaker 3: Carl Anthony Towns, higher, 39.5 points, rebounds and assists. They
[4:20] Speaker 3: take on the Nets. Chris Butcher, higher, or lower, excuse me,.
[4:23] Speaker 3: 5 assists. Jaime Jaquez Jr., 3J, higher, 15.5 points, rebounds
[4:29] Speaker 3: and assists. And Paul George, lower, 32.5 points, rebounds and assists.
[4:35] Speaker 3: Sixers are at the Nuggets. And B will not be playing.
[4:40] Speaker 3: He's injured, though, so we can't get those smoke-ducking allegations back.
[4:44] Speaker 3: Just yet, or can we? You know, we do whatever
[4:46] Speaker 3: we want here on this show. How everybody else feel
[4:48] Speaker 3: about Rashad's pick for tonight?
[4:52] Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, you weren't searching for that assist joint.
[4:56] Speaker 2: I just want to do something different. You did?
[4:57] Speaker 3: Oh, no, we know that.
[4:58] Speaker 2: Do something different. He not going to get that.
[5:02] Speaker 3: He not going to get that.
[5:04] Speaker 2: He only played 19 minutes, and he get all rebounds.
[5:08] Speaker 2: That's it. Okay, okay.
[5:10] Speaker 3: That's a ball bounce off his elbow. Somebody catch it,
[5:12] Speaker 3: he might get it.
[5:13] Speaker 2: I get it.
[5:13] Speaker 5: I get it.
[5:13] Speaker 3: That's the risk I got to take.
[5:14] Speaker 2: Offensive rebound, kick that bitch out for a three.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Ain't none of them guaranteed. I'm learning that. I've lost
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[5:33] Speaker 3: What should I pick for tonight? 54% of the chat
[5:36] Speaker 3: said they are riding with your picks.
[5:38] Speaker 2: We was one away the last time. The chat is rolling.
[5:41] Speaker 2: Shay wanted to have four assists in the first quarter.
[5:43] Speaker 2: It was weird.
[5:44] Speaker 3: Unfortunate.
[5:44] Speaker 2: You never pass that much before.
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[6:12] Speaker 2: So going to talk a little college football.
[6:15] Speaker 3: Not only was it MLK Day last night, it was
[6:17] Speaker 3: the college football national championship game. Ohio State taking on
[6:21] Speaker 3: Notre Dame. So the Ohio State Buckeyes won the national title.
[6:25] Speaker 2: Smacked them.
[6:25] Speaker 3: We got a little close at the end. They were
[6:27] Speaker 3: up 31-7 at one point. Notre Dame came back, but
[6:29] Speaker 3: they did not have God on their side. But LeBron
[6:32] Speaker 3: James was in attendance along with a bunch of other celebrities.
[6:34] Speaker 3: The Lakers do have a game tonight against the Washington Wizards.
[6:38] Speaker 3: So with or without Bron, they should get that dub.
[6:41] Speaker 3: But after the game, scary situation. A person driving a
[6:45] Speaker 3: golf cart that had OSU head coach Ryan Day and
[6:48] Speaker 3: starting quarterback Will Howard in it took an unexpected bump.
[6:52] Speaker 3: Ryan J, you deserve it, brother. Thank you.
[6:56] Speaker 7: Thank you.
[6:57] Speaker 2: It's okay. It's okay. Look who's driving. Look who's driving.
[7:04] Speaker 7: Look who just so happened to be driving the ship.
[7:09] Speaker 2: We dodged a big bullet. Then she left.
[7:13] Speaker 3: Then she left the ship.
[7:14] Speaker 2: Left the ship? It wasn't me.
[7:17] Speaker 3: Left the scene of the accident, hit and run.
[7:20] Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
[7:21] Speaker 3: So you can see the crash right here. Everyone got
[7:23] Speaker 3: out and decided to walk after that. Everyone is, well, okay.
[7:29] Speaker 3: No bachyotomies need.
[7:31] Speaker 7: She's a she.
[7:33] Speaker 3: She's a she.
[7:33] Speaker 2: We only got.
[7:35] Speaker 3: Two genders around here.
[7:37] Speaker 2: Uh-oh. She's a she.
[7:40] Speaker 3: So are golf carts actually tough to drive? I know
[7:42] Speaker 3: you guys like to golf here and there. You ever
[7:45] Speaker 3: had a situation like that?
[7:46] Speaker 2: Mm-mm. crashing the whip.
[7:48] Speaker 3: Austin Powers style? No, I know how to drive.
[7:52] Speaker 2: I've never seen it. I just thought that was in
[7:54] Speaker 2: the movie. That's crazy. Usually it's just straight.
[7:59] Speaker 5: I don't know how you got it at that angle
[8:01] Speaker 5: in the first place, but okay.
[8:02] Speaker 3: You're probably a little nervous.
[8:03] Speaker 2: So you ain't never been in no accident when a
[8:05] Speaker 2: woman's driving? When did... A woman's driving?
[8:11] Speaker 3: Like, we wrecked trying to park. She was trying to park....
[8:17] Speaker 2: All you got to do is stop.
[8:19] Speaker 3: Got nervous.
[8:24] Speaker 2: Got nervous. Got nervous. All you got to do is stop.
[8:29] Speaker 2: Apparently a little more difficult. No word on the conditions.
[8:32] Speaker 3: I mean, I've crashed golf carts before, but that was
[8:34] Speaker 3: in college. But I'm sure intentionally, Gil, because as we know,
[8:37] Speaker 3: in college, you used to be on one.
[8:39] Speaker 5: I mean, just think about all the people that was
[8:41] Speaker 5: at Arizona, and we have golf, little golf events.
[8:44] Speaker 3: We would take somebody key, take off. I'd be sitting there,
[8:50] Speaker 3: fly off the hill because you didn't even know it
[8:52] Speaker 3: was a dip.
[8:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
[8:55] Speaker 5: That was the last time we was invited to that
[8:56] Speaker 5: golf tournament. I think that first year, my freshman year,
[9:01] Speaker 5: it was like 12 golf carts that were damaged.
[9:04] Speaker 3: All from y'all? Some was in the little pond lake. Yeah.
[9:07] Speaker 3: What do you mean, all from us?
[9:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:11] Speaker 3: Allegedly.
[9:12] Speaker 2: Allegedly. Statue of limitations, but... Those are good days, man.
[9:17] Speaker 3: Those are the good days. When you have to worry
[9:19] Speaker 3: about NIL so you can't.
[9:20] Speaker 2: Take it out of our check. Take it out to
[9:23] Speaker 2: Pell Grant.
[9:26] Speaker 5: Just a couple line drills in the morning.
[9:28] Speaker 2: 6 a.m., 6 a.m., that's it.
[9:28] Speaker 3: Shout out to FAFSA and Pell Grant.
[9:32] Speaker 2: It was a group thing. It was all of us.
[9:35] Speaker 3: Financial aid office was a lot of Hoover's best friends.
[9:38] Speaker 5: What?
[9:38] Speaker 2: Pell Grant?
[9:39] Speaker 3: Pell Grant.
[9:39] Speaker 2: Pell Grant. It was as high?
[9:44] Speaker 3: What was the high?
[9:45] Speaker 2: Well, the first check was $ 700, and the next one
[9:48] Speaker 2: was $ 1, 875. So it was $ 2, 500 a quarter. We was
[9:49] Speaker 2: on quarters. You was on quarters. I think we were
[9:51] Speaker 2: on quarters as well.
[9:52] Speaker 3: $ 2, 500.
[9:54] Speaker 2: A quarter.
[9:55] Speaker 3: It's all good.
[9:56] Speaker 2: You didn't get nothing because you couldn't. We had unlimited.
[10:02] Speaker 3: We had unlimited cat cards. What the fuck is a
[10:05] Speaker 3: cat card? We had the growing card. They put a
[10:08] Speaker 3: bunch of food and money on it. It was a
[10:09] Speaker 3: private school card. No, you probably had a North Carolina card.
[10:12] Speaker 5: Where did you go to the food lounge? You didn't
[10:15] Speaker 5: have a card that they swiped?
[10:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only car we had. We didn't have
[10:18] Speaker 3: no other privileges. Oh, yeah, that was our, yeah. Yeah,
[10:21] Speaker 3: that didn't run out. It was a student idea. Oh,
[10:23] Speaker 3: we had one a day.
[10:24] Speaker 5: Oh, no, you spend, you know, you over there regular key,
[10:26] Speaker 5: you know.
[10:27] Speaker 2: $ 20? Hey, man, give me that, give me that. Give
[10:30] Speaker 2: me $ 10.
[10:30] Speaker 3: I'll swipe it for you. Unlimited?
[10:33] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Oh, no. We missed the time for lunch.
[10:37] Speaker 2: It was it. You can't eat.
[10:39] Speaker 3: You missed $ 10? Give me $ 5. I'll swipe it for you.
[10:41] Speaker 2: Oh, this is for the regular students. We go to
[10:43] Speaker 2: the regular student time. Hey, give me that. Ha. Give
[10:46] Speaker 2: me that.
[10:46] Speaker 3: Ha. Cash transaction.
[10:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. You paying $ 20?
[10:50] Speaker 3: Give me $ 10.
[10:51] Speaker 2: I'll swipe it for you. Everybody wins, y'all. Had nots.
[10:56] Speaker 2: We had none of that. None of that. Hey, hey, hey.
[11:01] Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's real tough. But that's why I was
[11:05] Speaker 3: going to Arizona. That's why I had five TVs in
[11:08] Speaker 3: my car.
[11:09] Speaker 2: 20-inch rims. Had a full 412. Was it a 12? Yeah!
[11:18] Speaker 2: All you heard was rattle coming down the street.
[11:19] Speaker 4: 412s.
[11:21] Speaker 2: 412s. 412s. 412s. Shouting horrible in a car. All you heard.
[11:28] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Hopefully watching Ghost Dog, The Way of the Samurai.
[11:35] Speaker 3: But there's been a lot of pre-show discussion in the
[11:38] Speaker 3: green room about driving in general.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Let's bring it to the couch. Kenya, we'll start with you.
[11:41] Speaker 3: Which city has the worst drivers?
[11:42] Speaker 2: Los Angeles. L.A.? What?
[11:44] Speaker 3: Because we're not soft here at Canyon.
[11:46] Speaker 2: We drive with heart.
[11:47] Speaker 3: Man, I just got.
[11:47] Speaker 2: No, no. Saturday, my point, got fucking rear-ended in the
[11:52] Speaker 2: car by a fucking airport shuttle on Saturday. So this
[11:56] Speaker 2: past Saturday, so absolutely here. I have never been to Texas.
[12:00] Speaker 2: I've had multiple accesses.
[12:01] Speaker 3: I've been here.
[12:02] Speaker 2: None of my fault, so.
[12:03] Speaker 3: So, Kane, we have noticed your emotional duress here, your
[12:06] Speaker 3: inability to perform your job functions to the height that
[12:08] Speaker 3: they could be, so we need about a million dollars
[12:11] Speaker 3: to make that right.
[12:12] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[12:13] Speaker 3: We've seen it. We've seen the shift ever since the accident.
[12:16] Speaker 3: It ain't been right since. Yeah, I say it all
[12:20] Speaker 3: the time. So this is.
[12:22] Speaker 2: So, historically, the left lane is supposed to be what?
[12:27] Speaker 3: Turn.
[12:28] Speaker 2: On the highway.
[12:29] Speaker 3: Fast lane.
[12:30] Speaker 2: The Jeff Gordon lane. Supposed to be the fast lane, right?
[12:33] Speaker 3: Not out here.
[12:36] Speaker 2: Like, motherfuckers, trucks, 18 wheelers, box trucks, shit be in
[12:39] Speaker 2: the left lane. Like, you do that shit in Texas,
[12:42] Speaker 2: they pulling you the fuck over. They are pulling you over. Oh,
[12:46] Speaker 2: that's our HOV, right? No, but y'all don't have, no, no, no, no.
[12:49] Speaker 2: Are we talking about the far left lane? They ain't
[12:51] Speaker 2: got a HOV on the 101.
[12:53] Speaker 3: No, they do not.
[12:54] Speaker 2: So therefore, the left lane in any highway, that's not
[12:57] Speaker 2: the HOV lane, supposed to be, right? Yeah.
[13:01] Speaker 3: Not out here.
[13:03] Speaker 2: My father bein' that bitch goin' the bare.
[13:05] Speaker 3: Minimum on the highway.
[13:06] Speaker 2: I ain't sayin' you got a speed, my mother be goin'
[13:08] Speaker 2: under the speed limit and shit, in the left lane.
[13:11] Speaker 2: But they get mad at you when you flash them
[13:14] Speaker 2: a horn, like they get mad, wanna give you the finger,
[13:16] Speaker 2: now you got a mother road rage incident. Well, technically.
[13:20] Speaker 7: They just be feeding into your triggers, boy.
[13:24] Speaker 2: What the fuck? Technically, there's really no fast lane. The
[13:27] Speaker 2: left lane is supposed... No, left lane everywhere.
[13:31] Speaker 5: Sportsman like Conor, that's what we... You're supposed to do that.
[13:34] Speaker 5: But if the speed limit is 65, God damn it.
[13:37] Speaker 7: That's the whole deal. In the driver's license, it asks you.
[13:40] Speaker 7: It asks you.
[13:42] Speaker 2: It asks you in.
[13:43] Speaker 3: The driver's license.
[13:44] Speaker 2: On the right side, what is this?
[13:47] Speaker 5: Certain highways may have A sign, slower traffic, keep right.
[13:51] Speaker 2: In the right, yes. Going up the hill. Slower traffic
[13:54] Speaker 2: on the 118, the back.
[13:55] Speaker 3: Side of the 118.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Keep.
[13:56] Speaker 3: Slower traffic.
[13:57] Speaker 2: Yes, it does say that, too.
[13:58] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[13:59] Speaker 2: I get that. Maybe motherfucking 18 wheelers in the left lane. Like, no, bruh.
[14:03] Speaker 5: I get it, but let's say I'm in the slow
[14:07] Speaker 5: lane going to speed limit 65. And you want to
[14:10] Speaker 5: go in the left lane. You can't go 75.
[14:13] Speaker 2: That's a ticket. Yo, the speed limit is a suggestion.
[14:16] Speaker 2: That's a speed ticket. It's suggested speed. Speed limit is
[14:21] Speaker 2: a flow of traffic.
[14:22] Speaker 5: No, if I know if the speed limit is 65
[14:24] Speaker 5: and I'm going in the slow lane 40, I'm getting
[14:27] Speaker 5: a ticket.
[14:29] Speaker 2: So technically.
[14:31] Speaker 3: No, get the fuck over. That's what I'm saying.
[14:34] Speaker 5: Technically, there's these things that you can't go 10 miles under.
[14:39] Speaker 3: They give you a ticket for going too slow.
[14:40] Speaker 2: 10 miles over, too fast.
[14:43] Speaker 5: The police be trying to get in front of you.
[14:46] Speaker 5: There should be, like, what we're supposed to go on
[14:48] Speaker 5: the lane.
[14:48] Speaker 2: That's actually what it's supposed to be. Get the fuck over.
[14:51] Speaker 5: Like, if the speed limit is 65, that should be
[14:53] Speaker 5: the fastest.
[14:54] Speaker 2: That you can go in that lane. No. And then
[14:56] Speaker 2: five miles lower.
[14:57] Speaker 3: No. Flow of traffic.
[14:58] Speaker 2: That's what I was always talking about. Get the fuck over, Gilbert.
[15:00] Speaker 5: Yeah. But I'm in whatever lane I'm going, and I'm going.
[15:05] Speaker 5: Drive this motherfucker. I can only imagine you behind the wheel. Hey,
[15:09] Speaker 5: solid line. I'm in and out that motherfucker.
[15:11] Speaker 3: I don't care.
[15:12] Speaker 2: I know you do.
[15:14] Speaker 5: You know, the only thing that I have a problem
[15:16] Speaker 5: with on the freeway is the bikes.
[15:19] Speaker 3: Motorcycle, yeah.
[15:19] Speaker 5: They shouldn't put motorcycles in the HOV lane.
[15:22] Speaker 2: That should be over there. Yeah, I'm over there.
[15:25] Speaker 3: They be moving.
[15:26] Speaker 5: Because I like to do this right here, right? And
[15:28] Speaker 5: this is the lane they drive in. And it's like, no, yo,
[15:31] Speaker 5: you're going to get hit.
[15:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
[15:32] Speaker 9: Right?
[15:33] Speaker 5: And you be coming, and I got to swerve, especially
[15:34] Speaker 5: if you got this one. Like, you got this bike
[15:37] Speaker 5: right here, and then I got to try to move over,
[15:38] Speaker 5: and that's a wall.
[15:39] Speaker 3: Wall right there.
[15:41] Speaker 2: No, brother, I'm already in your lane. You're driving on
[15:46] Speaker 2: the line. I'm driving on the line. You're driving on
[15:48] Speaker 2: the right line. I'd rather hit a car than that wall.
[15:51] Speaker 2: I had one of my partners who used to work
[15:52] Speaker 2: for me, my assistant. He stayed on the right lines.
[15:55] Speaker 2: I used to be in the car like this, dog.
[15:57] Speaker 2: I used to be scared to the bone. Everywhere we go,
[16:01] Speaker 2: he'd stay on the right line. I used to be like, yo.
[16:05] Speaker 3: Grab the wheel.
[16:06] Speaker 2: Do it more. He'd end up back on the line.
[16:08] Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, Drew. I'm scootin' over. I ain't sittin'
[16:13] Speaker 2: by the door. I'm like, this finna be bad.
[16:15] Speaker 7: Passing through the drivers, man.
[16:18] Speaker 3: Rashad, do you agree with Kenyon that L.A. has the
[16:19] Speaker 3: worst drivers, or does another city take that time?
[16:21] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[16:22] Speaker 3: New York. Yeah?
[16:24] Speaker 2: 100%.
[16:25] Speaker 3: New York.
[16:26] Speaker 2: I like the way they drive in New York. Mm-mm.
[16:29] Speaker 3: They get to it.
[16:30] Speaker 2: Is that the city of honking? What? The light turned.
[16:33] Speaker 2: God damn it. Go! Fast. Hey.
[16:36] Speaker 7: Hey, they'll hit your car.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Keep going. You better.
[16:38] Speaker 3: Hey. They will hit your car and keep.
[16:41] Speaker 2: It's like normal shit.
[16:42] Speaker 3: Boom.
[16:43] Speaker 2: What's up, man? Hey, they get to it. You better
[16:46] Speaker 2: anticipate that light turning green. 100%. Hey, you better.
[16:50] Speaker 3: Have your foot up. Mario car.
[16:52] Speaker 2: Mario car. Hey, you better have your foot up. Buy
[16:54] Speaker 2: the gas pedal when that motherfucker turn green. Ten, three, two, one.
[17:01] Speaker 2: Because they going.
[17:01] Speaker 3: To honk your ass to death. For sure. For sure.
[17:05] Speaker 3: New York is the worst.
[17:07] Speaker 2: And that's a ticket. Excessive honking, because I got one
[17:09] Speaker 2: of those before.
[17:10] Speaker 5: I got every ticket in the world.
[17:14] Speaker 2: That no right turn shit on the light. That's the
[17:18] Speaker 2: only thing I dislike about New York. That no right
[17:20] Speaker 2: turn shit on the light. Too many pedestrians. You got
[17:24] Speaker 2: to wait for 2,000 people to cross.
[17:26] Speaker 5: Cop was in front of me in that light turn green.
[17:31] Speaker 2: With the cop in front of you?
[17:33] Speaker 3: With the cop in front of you?
[17:36] Speaker 2: Fuck you on your phone? What the fuck are you doing?
[17:40] Speaker 3: That's some funny shit.
[17:43] Speaker 2: I wouldn't lean on him, but if he took too long,
[17:44] Speaker 2: I probably would cry. Like, he's just sitting there. I
[17:47] Speaker 2: might give him a ba-bump. I gave him 30 seconds,
[17:50] Speaker 2: so I'm sitting there like... I might wait a minute.
[17:51] Speaker 2: And everybody looking like, ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump. What the fuck?
[17:54] Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with no cops. And then he gonna
[17:57] Speaker 2: hit it. He gonna roll it. Got out of the car.
[18:01] Speaker 2: Pull over. He was mad. What the fuck I'm pulling
[18:03] Speaker 2: over for? You might as well just give me the
[18:04] Speaker 2: ticket right here, dog. You already stopped. You already got
[18:06] Speaker 2: out of the car.
[18:07] Speaker 3: You already out of the car, man. Stop the truck.
[18:08] Speaker 2: The reason I'm here, you know, to be in front
[18:10] Speaker 2: of me, I can't move, so... Fuck off.
[18:13] Speaker 3: Honking at a police officer, probably not a good idea.
[18:16] Speaker 2: I would just... That shit is hilarious. That shit's hilarious, actually.
[18:20] Speaker 2: That's hilarious. But you can do that when you... Sadic.
[18:21] Speaker 7: Because he actually had a real reason to do it.
[18:23] Speaker 2: He had a real reason to do it. The fuck
[18:25] Speaker 2: is this for? Even though that was.
[18:30] Speaker 3: Lean on that motherfucker. Well, another productive day here presented
[18:37] Speaker 3: by Underdog Whoop Whoop. All right, let's get on to
[18:39] Speaker 3: some basketball topics. So Celtics beat the Warriors by 40
[18:42] Speaker 3: points on MLK Day, which we will get to in
[18:44] Speaker 3: a second. But let's talk about what happened on the
[18:46] Speaker 3: court after the game.
[18:48] Speaker 2: We have the video.
[18:49] Speaker 3: So Jason Tatum and Steph Curry are sharing a moment
[18:52] Speaker 3: with Jalen Brown standing nearby rubbing his beard. Then Steve
[18:55] Speaker 3: Kerr strolls over, lurking in the background, appearing to wait
[18:58] Speaker 3: for Tatum. While Brown glances at Kerr with little reaction,
[19:01] Speaker 3: Tatum extends the conversation with Kerr.
[19:05] Speaker 2: Swing on it. And Kerr eventually walks off.
[19:08] Speaker 3: So as you might recall, Kerr was the head coach
[19:10] Speaker 3: of Team USA and did not play Tatum in two
[19:12] Speaker 3: full games during their path to a gold medal this
[19:14] Speaker 3: past summer. You might also recall that Jalen Brown, the
[19:18] Speaker 3: 2024 Eastern Conference Finals and NBA Finals MVP, was not
[19:21] Speaker 3: one of the three Celtics players selected for the squad.
[19:24] Speaker 3: with Derek White getting picked over him as Kawhi Leonard's replacement. So,
[19:30] Speaker 3: should Jason Tatum always have smoke for Steve Kerr, and
[19:32] Speaker 3: by extension, Jalen Brown as well?
[19:34] Speaker 2: Yes. For all eternity? Yes.
[19:37] Speaker 3: In perpetuity?
[19:38] Speaker 2: Yes. Hey, guys.
[19:41] Speaker 7: I'm a big believer of forgiveness, too, with Steve Kerr.
[19:44] Speaker 7: When it's warranted.
[19:45] Speaker 3: When it's warranted.
[19:46] Speaker 2: Wait, this year? Yeah.
[19:47] Speaker 3: Oh, okay, this year. Yeah, yeah.
[19:50] Speaker 2: 2025? Yeah, no. I do not like Steve Kerr at all.
[19:53] Speaker 2: So when it's warranted, definitely forgiveness is necessary, but... In
[19:57] Speaker 2: this situation, absolutely not. You can't explain it. There's nothing
[20:00] Speaker 2: you can say to me that's going to get me
[20:02] Speaker 2: to understand why the fuck you didn't play me and
[20:03] Speaker 2: why you didn't pick my teammates.
[20:05] Speaker 3: You could see the way he was moving. There was
[20:06] Speaker 3: nothing to say.
[20:07] Speaker 7: You could have easily been up to him and been like, hey, hey.
[20:12] Speaker 2: You're uncomfortable. He was like, he didn't want none of that.
[20:14] Speaker 7: Hey, Dardo, can we see that video again, please?
[20:17] Speaker 2: Steve Kerr was uncomfortable.
[20:18] Speaker 3: I watched the video about 26 times just in preparation.
[20:20] Speaker 3: It looks like he.
[20:21] Speaker 2: Passed Daniel Brown on the back. What you want, man?
[20:23] Speaker 2: Right here, right here. Right there.
[20:25] Speaker 3: What's up, nigga?
[20:25] Speaker 2: What you want? Looked up and saw him. Looked up
[20:27] Speaker 2: and saw him. Jason Tatum looked up and saw him.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Put his head down. Put his head down closer to
[20:40] Speaker 2: make sure. But see, that was the soft shit.
[20:43] Speaker 5: Jason Tate was supposed to make him feel more uncomfortable
[20:50] Speaker 5: having the conversation with him.
[20:52] Speaker 3: Does it bring any joy to your heart that it
[20:53] Speaker 3: happened on MLK Day?
[20:55] Speaker 2: No. No, fool.
[20:58] Speaker 3: That's progress, Kenyon. Back in the day, a situation could
[21:01] Speaker 3: happen if you disrespected a.
[21:03] Speaker 2: White man like that.
[21:04] Speaker 3: What, by not speaking to him?
[21:06] Speaker 2: You better acknowledge me. Now, that was a doo-doo. Dude.
[21:10] Speaker 2: I like that. I will be here always. You almost
[21:12] Speaker 2: let us go right there.
[21:14] Speaker 3: That was the situation back then.
[21:16] Speaker 2: It was good.
[21:16] Speaker 3: I liked it. 40 picks and you're in your crib.
[21:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that was coming. Oh.
[21:24] Speaker 3: Because we said it. I was looking forward to it.
[21:26] Speaker 3: It's going to be bad.
[21:27] Speaker 2: It's both of us, too.
[21:28] Speaker 3: Yes.
[21:28] Speaker 4: Two.
[21:29] Speaker 2: It's both of us.
[21:31] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[21:31] Speaker 3: One just got bitched. The other one didn't get it.
[21:33] Speaker 2: Pick at all. So, you know, it's awesome.
[21:35] Speaker 7: What did Drew and Derek have in that game?
[21:39] Speaker 3: It was a balanced scoring attack, but they all. So,
[21:42] Speaker 3: Derek White had eight points. Drew Holiday had ten points. Yeah.
[21:46] Speaker 2: Four rebounds.
[21:47] Speaker 3: Take a break.
[21:48] Speaker 2: Watch this.
[21:48] Speaker 3: Tatum, 22, nine rebounds, seven assists. Jalen Brown.
[21:51] Speaker 2: How many minutes?
[21:52] Speaker 7: 28 minutes.
[21:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. They didn't get to play.
[21:55] Speaker 2: They got to it. They would have played 42, 43
[21:56] Speaker 2: minutes out there because they had already talked to Coach.
[21:59] Speaker 2: I listened, dog.
[22:00] Speaker 7: Why didn't they do that? They did the same shit.
[22:03] Speaker 2: Bruh. Why would we do that to them?
[22:05] Speaker 3: Hey, coach, listen, I don't give a fuck what the
[22:08] Speaker 3: score is.
[22:09] Speaker 2: We gonna kill them.
[22:10] Speaker 3: I'm not coming out of the game. Beat me in.
[22:12] Speaker 3: I'm not coming out of the game. The narrative is gonna.
[22:14] Speaker 2: Be we tried to destroy y'all.
[22:17] Speaker 5: We running up the score.
[22:20] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown would have played 40 minutes.
[22:24] Speaker 2: They would have scored 200 points. 48. The team would
[22:27] Speaker 2: have scored 200 points. So why not leave them in?
[22:29] Speaker 2: This is not one of them games, man. This ain't
[22:32] Speaker 2: one of them games where we play normal.
[22:34] Speaker 5: The statement is, just like how at the end of
[22:36] Speaker 5: the game, everybody noticed I didn't play.
[22:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:40] Speaker 2: Everybody noticed I.
[22:41] Speaker 3: Didn't come out of the game. Yeah, they would have
[22:42] Speaker 3: been like... I'm making up.
[22:43] Speaker 5: I'm just going to beat the fuck out whoever... Come on, 48.
[22:46] Speaker 5: I'm not coming out of the game.
[22:47] Speaker 3: Screaming after every fucking point.
[22:49] Speaker 2: And one!
[22:51] Speaker 3: I can play here.
[22:54] Speaker 2: Here.
[22:55] Speaker 3: I can play here.
[22:55] Speaker 2: I don't want to call it with one of my
[22:58] Speaker 2: teammates in Denver. Fat fuck didn't play him in the
[23:02] Speaker 2: fourth quarter, right?
[23:03] Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
[23:04] Speaker 2: Yes.
[23:05] Speaker 3: Fat fuck referring to the... Yes, the coach. Yeah, absolutely.
[23:07] Speaker 3: Just making sure.
[23:08] Speaker 2: The motherfucker didn't play him in the fourth, so the
[23:09] Speaker 2: next day at practice, he shot the ball. It's a 5-man, though.
[23:14] Speaker 2: Shot the ball every time. Every time you touched it, right?
[23:19] Speaker 2: I could play in the fourth. Mm-hmm. Every time. Yell
[23:22] Speaker 2: it out every time. I could play in the fourth.
[23:24] Speaker 2: I could play in the fourth. Hey. Ooh, you want
[23:25] Speaker 2: to piss him off. One, supposed to be swinging. They
[23:28] Speaker 2: calling plays out. He motherfucking breaking them. Shoot it. Shoot it.
[23:33] Speaker 3: Right? I could play in the fourth. Hey, K-Pod, ain't
[23:36] Speaker 3: that right?
[23:36] Speaker 2: Shit, we could play in the fourth. Tell him. Tell him. Shit,
[23:39] Speaker 2: we could play in the fourth. Right. You want to
[23:42] Speaker 2: talk about happy?
[23:43] Speaker 3: You know me, I'm... What a fire.
[23:46] Speaker 2: Get to it. Fuel. Yeah, I'm light, I'm fluid, I'm confident.
[23:50] Speaker 2: Tell him, tell him.
[23:50] Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[23:51] Speaker 2: I was playing the fourth too. Oh, I'm... Yo, that's
[23:56] Speaker 2: the worst.
[23:56] Speaker 5: When somebody in a doghouse and they throw your ass
[23:59] Speaker 5: in there, too.
[23:59] Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to go right with it.
[24:01] Speaker 2: Oh, nah, nigga, leave me. I know what we talked
[24:04] Speaker 2: about on the bitch. Leave me out of this. Oh, no,
[24:05] Speaker 2: my dog, mine was comfortable.
[24:08] Speaker 3: He's a road dog in here.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Hey, mine was comfortable. I had a typical dog bed in.
[24:14] Speaker 3: Mine with him.
[24:14] Speaker 2: Oh, man, doghouse, doghouse. I was comfortable in that one
[24:17] Speaker 2: with him. I was back, y'all. I was feet up
[24:20] Speaker 2: in that.
[24:20] Speaker 5: Mm-mm.
[24:21] Speaker 2: That motherfucker ain't a place to be, though. No, no.
[24:23] Speaker 3: They forget about you in a doghouse.
[24:26] Speaker 2: What? It ain't no house no more.
[24:28] Speaker 7: That's the first century, nigga. This is solitary confinement.
[24:34] Speaker 2: Can I come out and see the body?
[24:36] Speaker 5: The only way you get on this court is if
[24:37] Speaker 5: everybody get hurt.
[24:38] Speaker 2: Damn! Am I going to feed me today? That sounds good.
[24:43] Speaker 2: It was like prison COVID. The only way you get
[24:45] Speaker 2: out is if there's some... They don't even ask you
[24:47] Speaker 2: questions in there. COVID, we got to let 20 people out. Yeah.
[24:51] Speaker 2: Not you.
[24:51] Speaker 3: Not you.
[24:54] Speaker 2: You didn't get bail. Yeah, we gave you a mask, motherfucker.
[24:57] Speaker 2: You good.
[24:57] Speaker 3: And how did the portly gentleman who was the head
[24:59] Speaker 3: coach at the time respond to that situation?
[25:02] Speaker 5: Nothing.
[25:02] Speaker 3: Just say shit.
[25:03] Speaker 2: Okay. Just ate it.
[25:03] Speaker 3: And when he left, what did he do?
[25:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he wasn't going to say shit. That shit was, listen, man,
[25:08] Speaker 2: he just sat over there and ate that shit, dawg.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Because it wasn't like the motherfucker was saying it quietly.
[25:14] Speaker 3: What you going to say?
[25:16] Speaker 2: You going to kick him out of practice?
[25:17] Speaker 3: You got a whole other issue.
[25:19] Speaker 2: You got a whole.
[25:20] Speaker 3: Other problem you try to kick him out. So it's...
[25:23] Speaker 3: So we asked the chat, should Tatum always have smoke
[25:26] Speaker 3: for Kerr? 85% of the chat said yes.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Oh, that shit's 90. That shit be 100.
[25:30] Speaker 3: Some of y'all slacking in the chat.
[25:33] Speaker 2: You're not petty enough. Not at all.
[25:35] Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve getting everything. Everything coming.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to talk. I understand your ass. Yeah, Missoula,
[25:43] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown should have had a real conversation, bro,
[25:46] Speaker 2: before that game. Like, listen, man. Yeah. I agree with you.
[25:50] Speaker 2: I get it. We beat them by 40. I want
[25:51] Speaker 2: this thing to be the worst. We beat them by 70.
[25:53] Speaker 2: And I want this thing to be the worst in
[25:55] Speaker 2: NBA history. Yeah, they should have beat the hell out
[25:58] Speaker 2: of them boys. I want them to ask questions. Why
[26:00] Speaker 2: y'all kept them in the game? Making up time for them.
[26:03] Speaker 3: No, don't ask me that.
[26:04] Speaker 2: Go ask Steve Kerr why he didn't play.
[26:06] Speaker 3: Me during the Olympics. Beat him so bad.
[26:08] Speaker 2: That's the question. Why he ain't going to make no trade.
[26:10] Speaker 2: That's the million-dollar question right there. Enough of my Olympics.
[26:15] Speaker 2: And whatever answer he give, that's the reason for today.
[26:19] Speaker 3: So we have some sleuths in the chat who I
[26:21] Speaker 3: think have figured out the player you're potentially talking about.
[26:23] Speaker 3: We're not going to say names to protect the innocent,
[26:24] Speaker 3: but they quick.
[26:27] Speaker 2: They get to it.
[26:28] Speaker 3: The name is all over the chat.
[26:29] Speaker 2: They get to it. A tattooed gentleman, perhaps? Oh, absolutely.
[26:34] Speaker 3: Wrong.
[26:34] Speaker 2: Okay, see?
[26:35] Speaker 3: There we go. Chat wrong.
[26:36] Speaker 7: We had a lot of, listen, one thing for sure, too.
[26:39] Speaker 2: They had a lot of sinners. Nope. We had a
[26:40] Speaker 2: lot of bigs in Denver. A whole lot.
[26:42] Speaker 3: From the day I got there to the day I left,
[26:44] Speaker 3: we had a whole lot of fives and fours. Not
[26:47] Speaker 3: an overly tattooed gentleman, just tattoos. Perhaps foreign languages. Maybe
[26:50] Speaker 3: he don't know.
[26:51] Speaker 2: Francisco. No, I don't know. the definition of what's on
[26:56] Speaker 2: his arm.
[26:56] Speaker 3: But nonetheless, so we talked about this a little bit
[26:59] Speaker 3: during the summertime when it was going down. But how
[27:02] Speaker 3: would you have handled that Olympic benching if you were Tatum? Me? Shit.
[27:11] Speaker 7: Handle it like I've been handling it before.
[27:15] Speaker 3: Me personally, I was happy to get my number one.
[27:18] Speaker 2: In real time, you don't want to be a distraction.
[27:21] Speaker 2: So you'll eat it. Like, you ain't like, like, you
[27:23] Speaker 2: bitching and complaining. Whoever was there with him, go ask
[27:27] Speaker 2: them how he felt. Them the people you need to
[27:29] Speaker 2: go talk to that was in Paris with him. Guaranteed.
[27:34] Speaker 3: Because Steve Kerr with all kind of not pleasant names,
[27:41] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. Watching the game, rooting for Serbia. See,
[27:46] Speaker 3: told you.
[27:46] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. No, it's just. If it was,
[27:48] Speaker 2: I mean. You're going to eat it, but you don't
[27:50] Speaker 2: like it.
[27:51] Speaker 3: At his stature, I get it.
[27:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. I probably would have played it the same way. Yeah,
[27:57] Speaker 2: you would have to.
[27:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That's the only thing you can do. You
[27:59] Speaker 3: don't want to be a distraction in that moment. Because,
[28:01] Speaker 3: you know, the world's watching now.
[28:04] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[28:04] Speaker 2: And you don't want to be.
[28:05] Speaker 5: That guy that's getting this opportunity, you know, to have
[28:10] Speaker 5: USA on your shirt, right?
[28:11] Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to drag you. USA, you get dragged.
[28:15] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[28:16] Speaker 5: So there's nothing you can really do besides take it.
[28:20] Speaker 2: Because you know it's nothing that you did, right? It's
[28:24] Speaker 2: nothing that you did. It's just a pre-fixed.
[28:29] Speaker 5: Lineup that has nothing to do with practice, has nothing
[28:32] Speaker 5: to do with talent, that they just assumed that this
[28:36] Speaker 5: is going to be how we're going to win games.
[28:38] Speaker 3: Can I ask a question?
[28:40] Speaker 2: But like I said, hold on.
[28:41] Speaker 3: Yes, Treshawn.
[28:42] Speaker 2: But like we said when it happened, right? How can
[28:45] Speaker 2: you as a coach or coaching staff sit there, come
[28:52] Speaker 2: up with a game plan that doesn't include Jason Tatum
[28:59] Speaker 2: in it.
[29:00] Speaker 5: The person who led the team in scoring the last Olympics.
[29:04] Speaker 3: So, right?
[29:05] Speaker 2: That's my, like, I don't, that's baffling. That's like when
[29:09] Speaker 2: Melo was leading the team and I was like, making
[29:11] Speaker 2: a game plan up and... And it don't include Carmelo Anthony.
[29:14] Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Brandon told me that Steve Kerr was
[29:17] Speaker 7: the one that told him that Jason Tatum was soft.
[29:20] Speaker 2: He was who? That he was who?
[29:22] Speaker 6: Soft.
[29:23] Speaker 3: Soft?
[29:25] Speaker 2: I don't know what they have to do with it.
[29:26] Speaker 5: I mean, I'm pretty sure you can name at least
[29:28] Speaker 5: five soft ones on there.
[29:29] Speaker 2: What does that have to do with the price?
[29:32] Speaker 7: He's just saying that that was the reason why.
[29:33] Speaker 3: I think Tatum's second-leading scorer in that 2020 Olympics.
[29:36] Speaker 2: Who, KD was first?
[29:36] Speaker 3: KD was first, 21 points a game. But nonetheless, KD
[29:40] Speaker 3: averaged 21 points a game. Tatum averaged 15.2 points a game.
[29:42] Speaker 3: My question is... But KD was playing seven more minutes
[29:45] Speaker 3: per game.
[29:46] Speaker 7: How do you, as a player, deal with the trauma
[29:52] Speaker 7: of a situation like this?
[29:55] Speaker 3: Me, myself, have been through this multiple times. and being
[29:59] Speaker 3: benched or being kicked off a team or any of
[30:03] Speaker 3: that without no real answer, bro, that.
[30:08] Speaker 7: Leaves you down a rabbit hole you do not come
[30:10] Speaker 7: back from.
[30:11] Speaker 3: Trying to find answers of why you didn't do this,
[30:13] Speaker 3: why you didn't do that.
[30:14] Speaker 7: Think about Isaiah Thomas trying to figure out why he
[30:16] Speaker 7: didn't make the USA team all them years to find
[30:18] Speaker 7: out that it was Michael Jordan.
[30:21] Speaker 3: Traumatizing.
[30:23] Speaker 2: Traumatizing.
[30:24] Speaker 7: Wait till Jason Tatum finds out why he didn't, you
[30:27] Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, why he didn't play.
[30:29] Speaker 2: He ain't found out yet. But that's a bad name.
[30:30] Speaker 3: We probably already know.
[30:32] Speaker 2: Do we?
[30:33] Speaker 3: We probably already know.
[30:35] Speaker 7: Is it enough to have a conversation with dude? Is
[30:37] Speaker 7: it enough to have a conversation with dude?
[30:38] Speaker 2: So the thing is, there's no, whatever the reason is,
[30:43] Speaker 2: whatever the reason is, whether it has something to do
[30:45] Speaker 2: with basketball or not, right? It's not valid for what
[30:51] Speaker 2: we're here for. That's what I'm saying. There's no game plan.
[30:54] Speaker 2: You can think I'm soft. You can think I'm this.
[30:55] Speaker 2: You can think I'm that. I am still Coming off
[30:59] Speaker 2: an NBA championship, I'm still first team all NBA. I
[31:03] Speaker 2: am still one of the five best guys in the
[31:07] Speaker 2: NBA right now. By that list that just came, we
[31:10] Speaker 2: just got done, I'm top five on that list. And
[31:16] Speaker 2: you played my teammate that just got here. So there's
[31:18] Speaker 2: nothing that you can say to me.
[31:19] Speaker 3: Because he's a role player.
[31:22] Speaker 2: I can be a role player. You know what?
[31:26] Speaker 5: I can be a role player.
[31:28] Speaker 2: But, Gil, on that team, we're all role players.
[31:30] Speaker 3: Technically, yes. On that team, we're all role players. Remember,
[31:35] Speaker 3: it's fuck Steve Kerr.
[31:36] Speaker 2: Yes.
[31:37] Speaker 3: He made a mistake. My coaches made mistakes. I held
[31:44] Speaker 3: a lot of that shit against them for a long time.
[31:47] Speaker 2: It wasn't good karma for me. For Jason Tatum, yeah, man,
[31:50] Speaker 2: we can say, man, we can hold that shit against him.
[31:52] Speaker 2: But to be honest, man, for his brand and everything,
[31:55] Speaker 2: he need to see that, man, Steve Kerr made a mistake.
[31:58] Speaker 2: Don't hold the shit on your heart for something he did.
[32:01] Speaker 2: He going to lose sleep at night.
[32:03] Speaker 3: I found a way.
[32:04] Speaker 7: To kill them coaches who do shit like that is
[32:07] Speaker 7: you put it in their face and you show them
[32:09] Speaker 7: that it didn't affect you. This shit didn't affect me.
[32:11] Speaker 7: You can't kill me. You didn't make me. You can't
[32:13] Speaker 7: kill me. So I'm not even looking at you as
[32:16] Speaker 7: a threat no more.
[32:17] Speaker 2: I want to shake your hand. Nancy Lieberman.
[32:20] Speaker 7: There was a lot of people who fucked me over
[32:22] Speaker 7: that I still look at and smile and shake their hand.
[32:25] Speaker 7: Y'all would never guess these people would fuck me over.
[32:28] Speaker 7: You see them, you be like, damn, y'all cool?
[32:29] Speaker 2: Nah, we not.
[32:30] Speaker 7: But he got to be cool and become a good person.
[32:34] Speaker 2: Be a good person. You still be a good person. Yeah,
[32:36] Speaker 2: but you gotta... I'm still a good person and you
[32:38] Speaker 2: still fuck George Carl. But he didn't make no mistakes.
[32:41] Speaker 2: That's just who he was. But that's who he was.
[32:45] Speaker 2: He can still be a great person.
[32:46] Speaker 7: But that's who he was, though. That's who he was, though.
[32:49] Speaker 7: That's who he was. You know that to who he is.
[32:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[32:52] Speaker 7: Jason Tatum don't know dude like that.
[32:54] Speaker 2: Dude made a mistake.
[32:54] Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? No, he didn't make a mistake.
[32:57] Speaker 5: He wouldn't do it again. He wouldn't do it again.
[32:59] Speaker 7: He wouldn't do it again. If he wouldn't do it again,
[33:03] Speaker 7: it was a mistake. He didn't make no mistake. He
[33:05] Speaker 7: made a decision not to play that game.
[33:07] Speaker 2: That decision was a mistake.
[33:08] Speaker 3: Twice.
[33:08] Speaker 2: You made that decision twice. The first time it might
[33:12] Speaker 2: have been a mistake.
[33:13] Speaker 3: You did it again.
[33:13] Speaker 2: No, first time was an accident. Well, no. Same mistake. No, no, no.
[33:17] Speaker 2: Either way it go.
[33:18] Speaker 5: This is prep meals, man.
[33:19] Speaker 2: You double down on it. This is prep meals.
[33:21] Speaker 3: They're already coming in.
[33:23] Speaker 2: We're struggling. No.
[33:24] Speaker 3: We're struggling.
[33:25] Speaker 2: No, it's prep.
[33:25] Speaker 3: What game did he not play? The first one. The
[33:28] Speaker 3: first one.
[33:30] Speaker 2: What game did he not play?
[33:31] Speaker 3: The first one. It was the fourth game. No, it
[33:32] Speaker 3: was the very first game. First and fourth.
[33:35] Speaker 7: No, you're talking about the real, the actual real. The
[33:36] Speaker 7: real game. You're talking about before, the.
[33:39] Speaker 2: Game leading up. He was playing before that. He was playing.
[33:40] Speaker 3: He was playing.
[33:41] Speaker 2: Then we get the pairs.
[33:43] Speaker 7: So those games leading up to the first game, the
[33:46] Speaker 7: last game they played was South Sudan.
[33:47] Speaker 3: They struggled. The whole team did.
[33:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, they struggled.
[33:51] Speaker 3: So why do I get benched, though?
[33:53] Speaker 2: That was the whole thing for Steve.
[33:55] Speaker 7: I'm not taking up for Steve.
[33:56] Speaker 2: No, you just mean, no. He made a mistake. No, no.
[34:00] Speaker 2: Remember the mistake he made with Ant Edwards? What was
[34:02] Speaker 2: the mistake he made with Ant? There's no mistake. What
[34:04] Speaker 2: was the mistake? You were pre-planning it. He tried to
[34:06] Speaker 2: bring Ant off the bench. That's a decision. It was
[34:09] Speaker 2: a mistake. No, that's a decision.
[34:10] Speaker 5: Because he didn't go through with it.
[34:12] Speaker 3: He didn't go through with it.
[34:13] Speaker 5: What I'm saying is if I'm purposely doing something, that's
[34:15] Speaker 5: not a mistake.
[34:16] Speaker 2: You made a mistake, bro. A mistake is.
[34:20] Speaker 5: If I'm walking and I step on your foot, that's
[34:22] Speaker 5: a mistake.
[34:22] Speaker 7: If I look down at your shoes and this is
[34:25] Speaker 7: new shoes and I scarf it, that's a decision.
[34:27] Speaker 3: That's an accident. I accidentally stepped on it.
[34:31] Speaker 2: He's making a decision. He's looking and we're going to say,
[34:34] Speaker 2: all right, we're going to play this, this, this.
[34:35] Speaker 3: We're going to sub it.
[34:36] Speaker 2: Here, here, here. They all agreed. This is how we're
[34:39] Speaker 2: going to play. This is a mistake, Gilbert. I'm fixing this.
[34:43] Speaker 2: I'm fixing this boat. Right. But I put it on
[34:46] Speaker 2: the wrong way. That's a mistake. Yeah, that's a mistake.
[34:49] Speaker 2: That's a mistake. That's a mistake. That's not an accident, right?
[34:52] Speaker 2: I made a mistake. That's a mistake.
[34:54] Speaker 3: So I can undo this.
[34:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, so but you didn't undo that, though. You didn't
[34:58] Speaker 2: do that.
[34:59] Speaker 3: Listen.
[34:59] Speaker 2: You said, man, I'm going to finish. Go ahead and finish.
[35:02] Speaker 3: I can undo this.
[35:03] Speaker 2: Yes.
[35:04] Speaker 3: Put it back right.
[35:05] Speaker 2: Yes. And then what can we do with it?
[35:07] Speaker 3: We can use it the right way now.
[35:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[35:09] Speaker 3: What making it right is with Steve Kerr and Jason
[35:11] Speaker 3: Tatum is letting the world know. Well, guess what? No
[35:14] Speaker 3: coach can make this decision again or mistake again. Because
[35:18] Speaker 3: this guy in this situation was a moment for this guy.
[35:22] Speaker 3: He didn't get to have this moment.
[35:24] Speaker 5: Have you noticed we both said that's a mistake?
[35:26] Speaker 3: Because I made a mistake.
[35:28] Speaker 2: We're both saying.
[35:28] Speaker 3: That's a mistake.
[35:29] Speaker 2: And guess what? That motherfucking Trey ain't got feelings.
[35:34] Speaker 7: What does that have to do with being able to
[35:36] Speaker 7: change your mistake?
[35:37] Speaker 5: Because you can't undo it. Because a mistake means.
[35:40] Speaker 2: You can't undo it.
[35:40] Speaker 3: We know we can't undo it, but we can change
[35:42] Speaker 3: the future. We cannot make the same mistake.
[35:45] Speaker 2: You did it again. We cannot make the same mistake. Twice.
[35:49] Speaker 3: After this.
[35:49] Speaker 2: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
[35:52] Speaker 2: The saying is you're not supposed to make the same
[35:53] Speaker 2: mistake twice, right? But we did. But we did.
[35:55] Speaker 3: So it's not a mistake anymore.
[35:57] Speaker 2: But it is.
[35:57] Speaker 3: No. Because we won't make this mistake again. It's a decision.
[36:01] Speaker 2: It's a decision.
[36:02] Speaker 3: Both of those mistakes happened in the same occurrence, right?
[36:05] Speaker 7: It didn't happen in one four-year. It happened in the
[36:08] Speaker 7: same week. Two of the same mistakes happened in the
[36:11] Speaker 7: same week. We're not going to do that again. Matter
[36:14] Speaker 7: of fact, USA not going to allow him to make
[36:16] Speaker 7: the mistake again.
[36:18] Speaker 2: You made a big mistake. A mistake is what you said, right?
[36:21] Speaker 2: What if I know this is the screw there?
[36:24] Speaker 5: What if I know this is the screw and I
[36:27] Speaker 5: don't want to use it?
[36:28] Speaker 2: That's not a mistake. That's a decision.
[36:31] Speaker 3: Once you do make this decision, Gilbert, listen, and then
[36:34] Speaker 3: you see that it's wobbling. You see, you were stubborn
[36:37] Speaker 3: enough to say, yeah, I still want to make it work.
[36:40] Speaker 2: Look, it's still wobbling. You know what?
[36:43] Speaker 3: That's not a mistake.
[36:44] Speaker 2: A mistake is accidental.
[36:47] Speaker 5: Like you read the instructions wrong and we did it
[36:49] Speaker 5: and then you get to undo it. If I know
[36:52] Speaker 5: this is the screw there and I'm deciding not to
[36:55] Speaker 5: put that screw there, that is a decision. Oh, it's
[36:59] Speaker 5: going to work without this screw. If it wibbles and
[37:02] Speaker 5: wobbles and I fix it, I fix it. But I
[37:09] Speaker 5: decided not to put it in there. That's not a mistake.
[37:13] Speaker 5: That's an actual decision. I'm deciding not to put it there.
[37:16] Speaker 5: I think I don't need this. I think it's fine
[37:18] Speaker 5: the way it is. If it fucking falls... You think
[37:20] Speaker 5: that's how he played it? That's how he played it?
[37:22] Speaker 2: Yes. That's how he played it. Yes. He did it again.
[37:25] Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing. He didn't do it once.
[37:27] Speaker 2: They knew who was playing. They knew who they were playing.
[37:30] Speaker 2: Against Serbia both times.
[37:31] Speaker 3: DNPs against Serbia both games.
[37:34] Speaker 2: I know my time.
[37:35] Speaker 3: What did he say?
[37:36] Speaker 2: The Olympic opener in the semis.
[37:39] Speaker 3: Please, there's a quote out there.
[37:40] Speaker 2: Let's look it up. Hold on.
[37:41] Speaker 5: Ooh, I forgot it was on there. Ooh, we decided,
[37:43] Speaker 5: didn't we? We decided we were going to... You know
[37:45] Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Whatever it was, though, like... There's a quote,
[37:48] Speaker 5: because I'm pretty sure it has. Like.
[37:52] Speaker 2: I decided it was like KD.
[37:53] Speaker 5: It was like KD didn't like, what the fuck does
[37:57] Speaker 5: him and KD got to do?
[37:58] Speaker 3: He said Tatum didn't play because Durant was healthy, but
[38:00] Speaker 3: added he felt like an idiot for not playing the Boston.
[38:02] Speaker 2: Mistake, bro. Thank you very much. What did he say?
[38:06] Speaker 2: Felt like an idiot.
[38:07] Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on. That's the quote. That seals my point.
[38:09] Speaker 2: No, it don't.
[38:13] Speaker 3: Said Tatum didn't play because Durant was healthy, but he
[38:15] Speaker 3: added he felt like an idiot for not playing the
[38:17] Speaker 3: Boston Storm. After.
[38:18] Speaker 2: So what was the reason for the second time not playing?
[38:20] Speaker 5: So he said because Kevin Durant was healthy, I feel
[38:22] Speaker 5: like I didn't need him.
[38:23] Speaker 2: So I'm not playing. He didn't say that. That's what
[38:25] Speaker 2: he's saying.
[38:25] Speaker 3: That ain't what he said. That is what he's saying.
[38:27] Speaker 3: Say it again what he said. Stop it right there.
[38:30] Speaker 3: Let me pull the foreclose.
[38:32] Speaker 2: You just put words in his mouth. That's his words.
[38:35] Speaker 2: Because KD was healthy. What does that mean? Don't say
[38:39] Speaker 2: what it means. I said, what did he say?
[38:41] Speaker 3: Don't interpret what it means, Gilbert.
[38:43] Speaker 2: What does it mean? If KD is healthy, what does
[38:46] Speaker 2: that mean if I'm decided? He didn't say if.
[38:49] Speaker 3: He said KD is healthy.
[38:51] Speaker 2: What the fuck does KD have to do with him then?
[38:53] Speaker 2: KD's going to play over you, Jason Tatum. Because KD's
[38:56] Speaker 2: a better player.
[38:57] Speaker 5: Because KD is playing, I'm deciding not to play him.
[39:00] Speaker 3: And also, in regards to his rotation patterns, he said,
[39:04] Speaker 3: I felt like last night, those were the combinations that
[39:07] Speaker 3: made the most sense. So those combinations did not include
[39:09] Speaker 3: Jason Tatum.
[39:10] Speaker 2: What did he say before? Say the quote. No, no, no, no.
[39:13] Speaker 2: The combinations of what? They had their own combinations. The players.
[39:16] Speaker 5: The players' combinations that they decided that.
[39:19] Speaker 3: Was part of the rotation. He said, I feel like
[39:22] Speaker 3: an idiot.
[39:23] Speaker 2: That's after the fact. That is after. When I realized
[39:27] Speaker 2: I didn't do it, that's after. Can you keep interrupting
[39:30] Speaker 2: the quote so we can hear it? That is after.
[39:32] Speaker 2: I get it. I heard you.
[39:33] Speaker 3: But let him say it. I just want to hear
[39:34] Speaker 3: him say it.
[39:35] Speaker 2: I just want to hear him say it. That's all.
[39:36] Speaker 2: That's when he said it.
[39:37] Speaker 3: Felt like an.
[39:37] Speaker 2: Idiot for not playing.
[39:39] Speaker 3: So what do you think? Before that, Tatum didn't play
[39:42] Speaker 3: because Durant was healthy.
[39:45] Speaker 2: So, Durant is playing. This is my lineups.
[39:48] Speaker 3: So, he made a decision. After the game is over, damn.
[39:51] Speaker 2: But you felt like an idiot. What's that called?
[39:53] Speaker 3: I made a fucking decision.
[39:55] Speaker 2: No, I made a decision. Which was a mistake.
[39:58] Speaker 5: And you didn't get it. Yes, it was a mistake.
[40:00] Speaker 5: We found that out. Okay, Rashad, Rashad. Okay, I agree
[40:04] Speaker 5: with you.
[40:04] Speaker 2: Listen, okay, cool. The first time, right? The situation we speak. No, no, no,
[40:09] Speaker 2: hold on.
[40:09] Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you how he's using it.
[40:11] Speaker 2: Rashad, I agree with you, right? Hear me, I agree
[40:15] Speaker 2: with you. He made a mistake. The first time, he
[40:19] Speaker 2: made a mistake. So what about the next time you
[40:24] Speaker 2: don't play? What is that then? He soft. Who?
[40:31] Speaker 3: Who soft?
[40:34] Speaker 2: The guy you asking about. Who? Who you asking about?
[40:41] Speaker 2: You're asking about Jason Tatum, right?
[40:43] Speaker 5: Yeah, but so why don't... That was his reason. Listen,
[40:49] Speaker 5: he's using it like this. Because he didn't play this guy,
[40:53] Speaker 5: that was just a mistake, right?
[40:55] Speaker 2: Oh, I get that. So that's like, I'm deciding to
[40:58] Speaker 2: rob a bank.
[41:00] Speaker 3: I got caught.
[41:02] Speaker 2: That was a stupid mistake. That's how he's using this. No,
[41:06] Speaker 2: I'm not.
[41:06] Speaker 7: Because he played after he did play the first game, right?
[41:09] Speaker 3: He played a couple games and didn't play against Serbia
[41:11] Speaker 3: both times.
[41:12] Speaker 5: We're talking about this game. You're saying it was a mistake.
[41:14] Speaker 5: What was the mistake of it?
[41:15] Speaker 2: I'm giving you that. He said the mistake.
[41:17] Speaker 3: What was the mistake?
[41:17] Speaker 2: I felt like an idiot because I didn't play him.
[41:21] Speaker 3: That's the mistake.
[41:21] Speaker 2: He's not saying he made a mistake.
[41:22] Speaker 5: I made a mistake because I got caught robbing this bank,
[41:26] Speaker 5: but I already decided. See, if nobody would have said nothing,
[41:31] Speaker 5: there's no mistake.
[41:33] Speaker 2: See, if I don't get caught. What do you mean
[41:35] Speaker 2: if nobody says?
[41:36] Speaker 5: If nobody asks him a question, there's no mistake. If
[41:39] Speaker 5: I don't get caught robbing the bank, I don't have
[41:42] Speaker 5: regret of the mistake.
[41:43] Speaker 2: It was a great plan.
[41:45] Speaker 5: This plan we had was a great plan.
[41:48] Speaker 2: That's my decision. So is it a mistake or not? No.
[41:53] Speaker 5: No, for us, because he's a five-time whatever he is. So, yeah,
[41:57] Speaker 5: you benching him, that's a mistake in your part.
[41:59] Speaker 2: For argument's sake, I'm saying yes, he made a mistake, right?
[42:01] Speaker 2: It started off as a decision. To agree with you,
[42:05] Speaker 2: he made a mistake the first time, right? So what
[42:08] Speaker 2: is your reasoning for doubling down on that?
[42:11] Speaker 7: I don't like the way you play.
[42:14] Speaker 3: But you've been playing me, though. Yeah, I tried you out.
[42:17] Speaker 2: For three games, and I'm like, yeah, for this game,
[42:19] Speaker 2: for us to take it all the way over, we're
[42:21] Speaker 2: going to play these guys.
[42:22] Speaker 3: So the Olympic opener against Serbia, first game of group play,
[42:26] Speaker 3: semifinal against Serbia, obviously that close game we were watching
[42:29] Speaker 3: here in the arena. Did not play either of those games.
[42:33] Speaker 3: I bring a gun to the locker room. Decision. Yes, yes.
[42:38] Speaker 2: Mistake. But that was a mistake.
[42:40] Speaker 3: Mistake.
[42:42] Speaker 7: Because your decision to bring the guns was not malicious.
[42:45] Speaker 2: But it's a decision.
[42:45] Speaker 7: It was you were playing around. You went too far
[42:47] Speaker 7: like you always do.
[42:48] Speaker 2: But it's a decision. It was a mistake. Yeah, it
[42:51] Speaker 2: became a mistake.
[42:52] Speaker 3: That's what.
[42:53] Speaker 2: That's how I... I know that's how you're using it.
[42:55] Speaker 3: Damn, I just said that.
[42:56] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[42:57] Speaker 7: And how long we been talking about this? And how
[42:59] Speaker 7: long have I been saying this is a mistake? And
[43:00] Speaker 7: how long you niggas been going against me?
[43:02] Speaker 3: But you're... The whole time I've been saying the same words?
[43:06] Speaker 5: No.
[43:07] Speaker 2: Using the same terminology. No, you're not using the same...
[43:10] Speaker 2: I said, fuck Steve Kerr, but he made a mistake.
[43:13] Speaker 2: You're not using the term right. You're saying... No, you
[43:17] Speaker 2: don't want it the way I'm giving it. No, you
[43:18] Speaker 2: said he screwed it in.
[43:19] Speaker 3: I said it the way I said it.
[43:22] Speaker 2: He made a mistake by screwing it in.
[43:23] Speaker 9: No.
[43:25] Speaker 7: He made a mistake. The mistake comes after your decision.
[43:28] Speaker 7: The mistake is there regardless. It don't matter if it's
[43:30] Speaker 7: a decision or not.
[43:30] Speaker 2: Why do you think I explained it away?
[43:31] Speaker 5: Because I hear how he's using it. That's why I
[43:34] Speaker 5: explained it.
[43:34] Speaker 3: Neither here nor there, but we asked the chat, is
[43:37] Speaker 3: it obvious?
[43:37] Speaker 2: 78% said yes.
[43:40] Speaker 7: Why you ain't let them see the shirt you had on?
[43:42] Speaker 7: You're supposed to let them see the real shirt. You
[43:45] Speaker 7: ain't really marketing.
[43:47] Speaker 2: I got man boobies. I got to cover them up
[43:49] Speaker 2: with sweatshirts. We'll go make a shirt for this nigga.
[43:51] Speaker 2: I got it. I'll pull it up. There you go.
[43:54] Speaker 2: I support. He really does.
[43:57] Speaker 3: That's my guy. Shout out to the greatness shop. Always
[44:01] Speaker 3: sends the merch on time. Let's get it.
[44:03] Speaker 2: Like the old say, fool me once, shame on you.
[44:08] Speaker 2: I say this, fuck Steve Kerr. Fool me twice.
[44:11] Speaker 3: Use it as fuel. Now, we talked about, we went
[44:14] Speaker 3: back down memory lane. Let's talk about MLK Day. So,
[44:18] Speaker 3: as for the game, Celtics got back on track, beat
[44:20] Speaker 3: the short-staffed Warriors by 40 points. Steph Curry had 18 points,
[44:24] Speaker 3: but no other Warriors starter scored in double figures. Both
[44:27] Speaker 3: Kaminga and Draymond Green sidelined. 40-point blowout was the Warriors'
[44:31] Speaker 3: biggest loss since 2018. So, with more than half their
[44:34] Speaker 3: games played, Golden State is at. 500. They would not
[44:38] Speaker 3: even qualify for the playing tournament.
[44:40] Speaker 2: If it started today. They are 11th in the West.
[44:42] Speaker 3: Beautiful to see. But are the Warriors destined to be
[44:45] Speaker 3: a hot pack of mid this.
[44:49] Speaker 2: Year? 21 and 21 right now, 11th in the West.
[44:52] Speaker 3: I thought they'd been a hot pack of mid. Is
[44:53] Speaker 3: that their destiny? Will they be able to change it?
[44:55] Speaker 3: They're only stealing a couple games out. You know, the
[44:59] Speaker 3: Western Conference as it stands right now.
[45:02] Speaker 2: What do we have in the map? What, 9, 10, 11th?
[45:06] Speaker 3: So they are currently, like I said, 21 and 21.
[45:08] Speaker 3: They are two games behind the Lakers for the sixth seed.
[45:11] Speaker 3: Three games behind the Clippers.
[45:13] Speaker 2: For the fifth seed.
[45:13] Speaker 3: So they're going to finish with 9, 10, 11?
[45:15] Speaker 2: Y'all going to be in the playing game.
[45:18] Speaker 3: Who? The Warriors? Warriors and Lakers. Y'all going to be
[45:21] Speaker 3: in the playing game. Stopped it at four.
[45:24] Speaker 2: No.
[45:24] Speaker 3: Okay, we are the sixth seed in Adam Silver's Western Conference.
[45:28] Speaker 3: Right now? We're not even going to touch the play-in. Man,
[45:30] Speaker 3: we ain't worrying about the play-in, man.
[45:32] Speaker 2: We 2-0.
[45:32] Speaker 5: We looking ahead to these grids.
[45:35] Speaker 3: We 2-0. Thursday.
[45:36] Speaker 2: Then what do y'all get for y'all reward for being
[45:38] Speaker 2: 2-0 in play-in?
[45:40] Speaker 5: Same thing we would have did if there was no play-in.
[45:43] Speaker 2: Seven seed. Y'all better hope. The seven seed. Y'all better
[45:49] Speaker 2: hope that one team. Two-time play-in champion. Y'all better hope
[45:52] Speaker 2: that one team finish with a different spot. Thankfully, they
[45:55] Speaker 2: are currently. What spot they in?
[45:57] Speaker 3: They're in the fourths.
[45:58] Speaker 2: Lakers are terrible, right?
[46:01] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we gonna play Memphis. That's easy work Shit
[46:05] Speaker 5: ain't get the three who? Didn't we get three y'all six? Oh,
[46:10] Speaker 5: then we get it through we won't stop Did we go.
[46:13] Speaker 3: Through we go five they don't got case here no more.
[46:15] Speaker 2: We're not scared of that Let's get it.
[46:17] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Okay. Just say it. Oh, we're talking about
[46:20] Speaker 3: the go. Yeah.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:22] Speaker 3: Hey boogeyman Yes, no burping babies.
[46:24] Speaker 2: Yes No Lakers. Burping, baby. No Lakers discussion. And they
[46:28] Speaker 2: got Westbrook over there now, too. Ooh, we got revenge
[46:31] Speaker 2: all over. We want that energy. Nah, nah, we want
[46:33] Speaker 2: that energy over here.
[46:34] Speaker 3: No Lakers discussion today. We are talking about the Golden
[46:36] Speaker 3: State Warriors of San Francisco. Got off to a hard start.
[46:40] Speaker 2: I really thought the way they started the season, I
[46:44] Speaker 2: didn't say they was going to win the West or
[46:46] Speaker 2: they was going to do no, like, the way they
[46:48] Speaker 2: started it, they was all healthy. They came back with
[46:51] Speaker 2: a better roster than they've had as of late. I
[46:57] Speaker 2: thought they would do better than they have been because
[47:01] Speaker 2: of how they started. So, yeah, it's going to be this.
[47:04] Speaker 2: They're going to 500 basketball for the rest of the way.
[47:11] Speaker 3: Worse than that.
[47:15] Speaker 2: Unless they make a trade. Unless they do some things
[47:19] Speaker 2: before the trade deadline and get some more pieces in.
[47:21] Speaker 2: Not just one piece. Yeah. Like, you need multiple pieces.
[47:26] Speaker 3: They don't want to mortgage the current squad to mess
[47:28] Speaker 3: up their future. We've talked at length about making some moves.
[47:32] Speaker 3: They did get Schroeder, obviously, training.
[47:34] Speaker 2: My thing is, why are you not trying to win
[47:36] Speaker 2: now with Steph?
[47:37] Speaker 7: Yeah, that energy is nasty.
[47:39] Speaker 3: Right? Like, why are you not trying to win now?
[47:41] Speaker 2: It's weird.
[47:42] Speaker 7: Because then you get blew out by 40, and you
[47:45] Speaker 7: look like you need to make some moves, regardless of
[47:48] Speaker 7: what Steph Curry feels or not.
[47:50] Speaker 2: Like, what game was this for them on their road trip?
[47:52] Speaker 2: Out for the Celtics? Yeah. Let me pull it up.
[47:54] Speaker 3: No, um.
[47:57] Speaker 3: It was a home game. Oh, it was a home game.
[47:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, they got blown out of the crib.
[48:00] Speaker 3: Never mind, never mind, never mind, never mind.
[48:02] Speaker 7: Do you start looking at moving Steve Kerr? Trading me
[48:06] Speaker 7: a season. I'm just saying, man, do you start looking
[48:08] Speaker 7: at an option? Like, that's not working. That offense not working,
[48:12] Speaker 7: and they... The dude Pascal, Eric Pascal, just said, playing
[48:16] Speaker 7: with Steph is difficult because the system don't adjust to
[48:19] Speaker 7: nobody else. So if you got game in any other position,
[48:22] Speaker 7: you got to sacrifice sitting in the corner, watching him
[48:25] Speaker 7: come off screens, nobody getting the screen, none of that.
[48:28] Speaker 7: So it's like, he thinking like he's going to progress
[48:30] Speaker 7: like Kaminga was progressing.
[48:32] Speaker 3: And he's like, nah, they don't let you progress over there.
[48:34] Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that. And you know what?
[48:36] Speaker 2: Just like anything else, people figure it out. Yeah. Regular
[48:40] Speaker 2: people or?
[48:41] Speaker 3: No, no.
[48:42] Speaker 2: Like the players? No, like with teams, like you keep
[48:45] Speaker 2: running shit over time. Yeah.
[48:47] Speaker 3: People figure it out.
[48:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[48:48] Speaker 7: Right?
[48:49] Speaker 2: Yeah. People figure out how to guard it. People figure
[48:51] Speaker 2: out how to limit what y'all did great because you
[48:55] Speaker 2: don't have that other guy anymore.
[48:57] Speaker 5: Right?
[49:00] Speaker 2: So I think that's more of what it is now.
[49:02] Speaker 2: The league has figured out how to guard them because
[49:04] Speaker 2: they don't have that other guy.
[49:06] Speaker 5: Right?
[49:06] Speaker 3: They made it easier for the league. Because they don't
[49:09] Speaker 3: have the.
[49:11] Speaker 2: Right. When Klay out there, you got to guard him differently. Yeah, yeah.
[49:13] Speaker 3: Knockdown shooter.
[49:14] Speaker 2: Knockdown.
[49:15] Speaker 3: So you.
[49:16] Speaker 2: When Klay shoots, you think it's going in. Like, only
[49:19] Speaker 2: for where he's shooting from, you think it's going in
[49:21] Speaker 2: every time, so.
[49:24] Speaker 3: So Buddy Hill must not be playing very well.
[49:26] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
[49:28] Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
[49:28] Speaker 2: It does matter. It does. It makes Steph feel better. But.
[49:32] Speaker 7: He knocked Clay.
[49:33] Speaker 2: People don't fear him like they fear Clay, is what
[49:36] Speaker 2: I'm saying. He too streaky. So you got to go.
[49:38] Speaker 2: So I saw this. So I don't know who the
[49:40] Speaker 2: coach was. I saw it recently. Because when they were winning,
[49:42] Speaker 2: he was playing well. So when Buddy was with Zach,
[49:45] Speaker 2: they had a thing. They told him don't dribble. He
[49:48] Speaker 2: shot like 70% on catch and shoot. It was like
[49:52] Speaker 2: 29 on one dribble. Like if he dribbled the ball,
[49:54] Speaker 2: it went like, it was like something crazy. It got worse?
[49:57] Speaker 2: Way worse.
[49:57] Speaker 7: You said this was who?
[49:59] Speaker 2: Clay?
[49:59] Speaker 3: I forget who said it.
[50:00] Speaker 2: It was like. I remember that. It was recent, too. Yeah,
[50:04] Speaker 2: I remember that. Like, he told, like, just catch and shoot.
[50:06] Speaker 2: Because if he dribbled it, his percentage is, like, way down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[50:10] Speaker 2: Rashard Lewis was like that. So, yeah, like, I just
[50:12] Speaker 2: think he's not, like, if you look at threes made
[50:16] Speaker 2: over the last, like, five, six years, he's right up there.
[50:19] Speaker 2: But I just, the fear of Klay Thompson getting hot,
[50:26] Speaker 2: you play, you guard him different than you.
[50:28] Speaker 3: Guard Buddy Hill.
[50:31] Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, shit, he was averaging 25 in October.
[50:35] Speaker 3: I mean, 21 in October.
[50:36] Speaker 2: That was Buddy? Yeah. He played well in October. He
[50:38] Speaker 2: shot the ball well off the bench. That was when
[50:40] Speaker 2: they was winning, right? Yep.
[50:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, he came off the bench, shot the ball well.
[50:44] Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that was a problem.
[50:46] Speaker 7: So their excuse is Prozinski's down.
[50:49] Speaker 2: Who? Prozinski. Prozinski. Who was the other dude? Well, Kaminga's hurt.
[50:55] Speaker 2: That's right now, he's just... Somebody else, Draymond was down.
[50:59] Speaker 3: Draymond suffered an injury against the Wizards. He's going to
[51:02] Speaker 3: miss a week, week and a half.
[51:03] Speaker 2: The overall team that you... It's like... You don't... And
[51:14] Speaker 2: this is... where... Draymond not being a scorer hurts you. Absolutely.
[51:25] Speaker 3: Right? What's their starting lineup? It fluctuates from game to game.
[51:30] Speaker 2: They use a lot of different lineups. They use a
[51:33] Speaker 2: lot of different lineups. They use like 23, 24 different lineups.
[51:36] Speaker 3: Wiggins, Moody. Nah.
[51:39] Speaker 2: I think so. It's not consistent. It's not consistent.
[51:42] Speaker 3: Let me... It's Schroeder.
[51:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to figure that out.
[51:47] Speaker 3: Good luck trying to figure it out. GP.
[51:50] Speaker 2: Oh, T. Jackson. Okay, T. Jackson, Green.
[51:54] Speaker 3: Wiggins, Curry, and then Schroeder now. Who is green? Draymond.
[52:00] Speaker 2: Draymond. Draymond, Steph, Schroeder. Okay, now, Schroeder, right? Why not
[52:08] Speaker 2: have Buddy Hill?
[52:10] Speaker 3: Because you want Steph off the ball.
[52:15] Speaker 2: But still, you got Draymond out there, right?
[52:17] Speaker 5: So you got rid of Clay to bring in a
[52:22] Speaker 5: guy who can possibly shoot decent. to bring him off
[52:26] Speaker 5: the bench, to put a point guard in, to have.
[52:30] Speaker 2: One.
[52:30] Speaker 5: So then it's supposed to be Curry now, and Curry's
[52:35] Speaker 5: supposed to.
[52:35] Speaker 2: Be Klay now? Wiggins is supposed to be Klay. Well,
[52:38] Speaker 2: then who's going to be Wiggins?
[52:40] Speaker 3: Draymond.
[52:41] Speaker 2: Then who's going to be Draymond? The big boy, Jackson.
[52:44] Speaker 5: It's easier to keep everybody in place and say, all right,
[52:47] Speaker 5: this is what Klay did.
[52:48] Speaker 2: We bring in Wiggins. I mean, we bring in Buddy
[52:52] Speaker 2: Hill and- He.
[52:54] Speaker 5: Might not average 21, but if he averages 17, everybody
[52:57] Speaker 5: else can just still be them and do a little
[52:58] Speaker 5: bit better. But once you start replacing everybody, it becomes worse.
[53:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't had a consistent lineup to stick with
[53:06] Speaker 2: because of injuries and other things, trying different shit, brainstorming
[53:11] Speaker 2: at night, staying up fucking late, can't sleep, all that shit,
[53:14] Speaker 2: and you like, damn, what? Just keep your normal starting
[53:17] Speaker 2: five and put.
[53:18] Speaker 7: So is that normal championship starting five with Steph at
[53:21] Speaker 7: the point?
[53:22] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
[53:23] Speaker 3: So they changed all of that.
[53:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[53:24] Speaker 5: Changed all of that. Because Draymond is the point.
[53:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[53:29] Speaker 5: Right?
[53:29] Speaker 7: And bringing Schroeder in, bringing Poginski in, fucked up the
[53:32] Speaker 7: whole formula.
[53:33] Speaker 2: That they had. Poginski wouldn't be playing for me.
[53:35] Speaker 3: Right.
[53:36] Speaker 2: So Buddy Hill is supposed to be at the two.
[53:38] Speaker 2: It's supposed to be Steph, Buddy, Wiggins, Dray, and Zach.
[53:41] Speaker 2: And let Dennis Schroeder come off the bench doing Barbosa
[53:44] Speaker 2: type of stuff.
[53:45] Speaker 3: Him, Gary Payton. Gary Payton, yeah, yeah. Kaminga.
[53:48] Speaker 2: But that'd be my off-the-bench.
[53:50] Speaker 3: Kaminga would be the scorer.
[53:52] Speaker 2: Kaminga the athlete.
[53:53] Speaker 3: Looney's off the bench, too.
[53:55] Speaker 5: At this point, I would put maybe Wiggins off the
[53:58] Speaker 5: bench and put Kaminga in.
[53:59] Speaker 2: Put Kaminga in. Yeah.
[54:02] Speaker 3: So, after the game, Steph was asked about the Warriors' struggles,
[54:05] Speaker 3: particularly in that game set. A big part of our
[54:07] Speaker 3: season has been when we can't score, we lose spirit,
[54:09] Speaker 3: we lose life, we lose competitiveness. So, Warriors started season
[54:13] Speaker 3: 12 and 3. Uh, Went 9-18 in what appears to
[54:20] Speaker 3: be a trend towards another wasted season for Steph Curry.
[54:22] Speaker 3: Did not make the playoffs last year. 11-C right now.
[54:25] Speaker 2: It happens, man. It happens. It happens. No one cares.
[54:29] Speaker 3: If you Steph, I'm just.
[54:31] Speaker 2: Saying, at what point?
[54:33] Speaker 3: Didn't happen to Tim Duncan.
[54:34] Speaker 2: At what point? Didn't happen to Tim. This keeps happening.
[54:37] Speaker 2: It's happening because you made mistakes inside the circle. Side
[54:41] Speaker 2: of the circle, what y'all talked about yesterday. That punch
[54:43] Speaker 2: heard around the world. Fucked everything up. Don't worry, they'll
[54:47] Speaker 2: do it. They'll do what every other team did. Either
[54:49] Speaker 2: you're going to retire or you're going to trade your asses. Yeah,
[54:53] Speaker 2: that's it.
[54:53] Speaker 3: Somebody who's desperate for some ticket sales. Facts. Charlotte.
[54:56] Speaker 5: They did it to KG, Paul Pierce, Dwayne Wade.
[55:00] Speaker 3: Y'all want them, bro? Paul Pierce, Dwayne Wade. Y'all want them?
[55:02] Speaker 3: Here y'all go.
[55:03] Speaker 2: Shit, we don't need them no more. I'll float it.
[55:06] Speaker 3: You think that ain't funny?
[55:08] Speaker 2: Ew.
[55:09] Speaker 5: Draymond and Steph, hey, hey, y'all.
[55:11] Speaker 2: Y'all ready?
[55:11] Speaker 3: Y'all ready?
[55:12] Speaker 2: Where y'all want to go?
[55:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. We'll see y'all together. You can see
[55:15] Speaker 3: a world over there.
[55:15] Speaker 2: Shit, if you want to stay home, we'll see you
[55:17] Speaker 2: in Sacramento. Where you want to go, Dre? Go to Sacramento.
[55:19] Speaker 2: Run up there a couple times.
[55:20] Speaker 3: Draymond, you want to go to Michigan?
[55:22] Speaker 2: You want to go to L.A.? You want to go
[55:24] Speaker 2: to L.A.? You want to go to L.A.? What you want?
[55:26] Speaker 3: So do you see a world where Steph says, I'm
[55:28] Speaker 3: cool with that, Trey?
[55:29] Speaker 2: They sent Tony Parker to Charlotte.
[55:31] Speaker 7: If they go against what he's saying, I think he would.
[55:36] Speaker 7: If they decide to make a move for now, and
[55:38] Speaker 7: he's saying don't, if they do make the move for now,
[55:42] Speaker 7: I think that's him saying, all right, man, y'all can
[55:44] Speaker 7: go ahead and make a move for me too. And
[55:48] Speaker 7: I think Mike Dunleavy looking at his face last night.
[55:51] Speaker 2: I think he's got, what, two more years on the dunk?
[55:55] Speaker 5: Because, I mean, no matter what, either they're going to
[55:57] Speaker 5: trade him at some point, or he's going to play
[56:00] Speaker 5: the two years and retire.
[56:02] Speaker 2: I think he'll play the two years.
[56:03] Speaker 5: I mean, if he wants to play more, it's his
[56:05] Speaker 5: option now. And he might just sign.
[56:08] Speaker 3: So Steph signed through the 26-27 season, so two more
[56:11] Speaker 3: seasons after this one.
[56:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, he got it.
[56:14] Speaker 3: He'll be making $ 63 million that final season.
[56:17] Speaker 5: It'll be that Tony Parker move where he'll be like,
[56:19] Speaker 5: I don't like you in that jersey.
[56:21] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[56:22] Speaker 3: It's crazy.
[56:24] Speaker 5: Just because he's still got a little bit more tank,
[56:26] Speaker 5: you know, a little gas in the tank.
[56:28] Speaker 3: So we talk all the time about loyalty. Obviously, Steph,
[56:30] Speaker 3: one of the few guys played with the same team
[56:32] Speaker 3: for his entire career. You can see that shifting if
[56:35] Speaker 3: they don't make a move now. Or are they just
[56:37] Speaker 3: bullshitting right now saying, we're not going to make a move,
[56:39] Speaker 3: we're not going to mortgage the future while they're working
[56:42] Speaker 3: the phones trying to get something done?
[56:43] Speaker 5: Your player is too good still. He's too good still
[56:49] Speaker 5: to let somebody else come in and dominate. By the
[56:53] Speaker 5: time he realizes that he needs to be an option two,
[56:57] Speaker 5: it's too late.
[56:59] Speaker 2: But he needs some help, though.
[57:01] Speaker 3: Who's he going to be an option two, too, though,
[57:02] Speaker 3: with that roster? Not that roster.
[57:05] Speaker 2: I'm talking about bringing somebody in. There's no... There's probably
[57:09] Speaker 2: nobody on that. The only way... You team him up
[57:16] Speaker 2: again with KD, you team him up with Nikola, somebody
[57:19] Speaker 2: like that. Other than that, it don't... Unless you can
[57:23] Speaker 2: pull KD back. Yeah, somebody to take the pressure off
[57:25] Speaker 2: of him.
[57:26] Speaker 3: All right? Man, listen.
[57:28] Speaker 2: I'm just, I'm just, that's the only thing. Yeah, that's
[57:29] Speaker 2: the only way you need. You need one of them.
[57:31] Speaker 3: The only way it can.
[57:31] Speaker 2: You need somebody.
[57:32] Speaker 3: That ain't happening.
[57:32] Speaker 2: And that still, that still might not be enough.
[57:34] Speaker 3: Not right now? Listen, man.
[57:36] Speaker 7: One of the things that's going to solidify Steph to
[57:37] Speaker 7: be in that top four conversation is if he stayed
[57:40] Speaker 7: with the Warriors. It's a top four conversation. Even Brian
[57:44] Speaker 7: and Mike not even in them conversations. They changed teams.
[57:48] Speaker 7: Only a select few people in that lineage, people trying
[57:51] Speaker 7: not to leave their team and stay the whole way.
[57:55] Speaker 7: It's an opportunity for him, but I think, like I said,
[57:57] Speaker 7: he's showing them that if y'all don't do it like
[58:00] Speaker 7: I want y'all to do it.
[58:02] Speaker 2: It's going to be Hakeem Olajuwon and that Toronto Raptors.
[58:05] Speaker 7: And that Toronto Raptors. Nasty work, boy.
[58:09] Speaker 2: Not like that.
[58:12] Speaker 3: Don't do that.
[58:12] Speaker 2: Don't do that. Pat Ewing and that motherfucking Orlando Magic.
[58:16] Speaker 3: Orlando Pat? Why would y'all do that to Pat?
[58:20] Speaker 2: Why would y'all do that to Pat, man?
[58:21] Speaker 3: Damn.
[58:22] Speaker 5: Because what happens is, when he's up, let's say he's
[58:24] Speaker 5: up in two years and he's still averaging about 20.
[58:27] Speaker 2: Which he would.
[58:29] Speaker 5: Easy. You even blink at paying him, you're done.
[58:34] Speaker 2: They got to pay him.
[58:35] Speaker 7: 63 million is last year.
[58:38] Speaker 2: They got to start playing different, too, if they want
[58:40] Speaker 2: them to play.
[58:40] Speaker 3: I think you could probably get an extension next season, too.
[58:42] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[58:44] Speaker 2: All of that fucks them.
[58:46] Speaker 5: You extend them with no plan of whatever you're going
[58:49] Speaker 5: to do. You sign them back to the 40.
[58:52] Speaker 2: Million, 50 million, right?
[58:55] Speaker 3: You fucked.
[58:58] Speaker 2: Right?
[58:58] Speaker 5: It's one of those, you hope he retires.
[59:02] Speaker 2: Or say, let me go somewhere else. Hey, man, how's
[59:07] Speaker 2: the family? What you thinking about doing when you retire?
[59:10] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You start hitting that motherfucker like, yeah.
[59:12] Speaker 5: You know, we thinking about doing, like, a ceremony for
[59:15] Speaker 5: you when you retire?
[59:16] Speaker 2: You know? Yeah.
[59:17] Speaker 7: That's what they had to do. They had to do
[59:19] Speaker 7: that with Cole. They had to let him know, hey,
[59:20] Speaker 7: we got to get rid of you. You got to
[59:23] Speaker 7: step down, homie. You got to step down. We can't
[59:26] Speaker 7: pay you this.
[59:27] Speaker 5: Because I know if we decide not to pay you,
[59:29] Speaker 5: the fans is going to be mad for a couple years.
[59:32] Speaker 4: 100%.
[59:32] Speaker 3: So, you know, you sit here like.
[59:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, four more years. You're like, oh, come on, y'all.
[59:39] Speaker 2: Fire me now, man.
[59:40] Speaker 3: Shit. Some of us have been praying on the words down.
[59:45] Speaker 3: But not like this. Because this wasn't them situations if
[59:48] Speaker 3: it's on the table, bro.
[59:49] Speaker 2: Listen. They're going to entertain it.
[59:52] Speaker 5: He's one of those players, man, you just can't trade
[59:54] Speaker 5: without losing your fan base.
[59:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[59:56] Speaker 2: And bags. Them people ain't trying to hear that shit. No,
[59:58] Speaker 2: not right now.
[1:00:00] Speaker 7: Even though they're losing, it ain't like four seasons in
[1:00:02] Speaker 7: a row.
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: They get to still see him. It's two in a row.
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: Two pushing on three. Still see 30. They get to
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: still see him.
[1:00:08] Speaker 7: And he's still doing shit to make you want to
[1:00:10] Speaker 7: come see him.
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: He's like, oh, shit. He's doing shit. It has to
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: be a clay situation. That last game.
[1:00:15] Speaker 5: 0 for 12 or some shit like that, and you
[1:00:18] Speaker 5: can run your narrative, even though he averaged fucking 18.
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: You can run your narrative of how horrible he is
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: and washed.
[1:00:25] Speaker 5: And then you can try to offload like that.
[1:00:27] Speaker 7: Hey, Dallas, we'll give you Kaminga for Clay.
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: Back?
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: Give us a homie back.
[1:00:35] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Today's pot.
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: We made a mistake. We made a mistake.
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[1:02:56] Speaker 2: I don't know what year I found out a dude, like,
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: dudes in the league was cheating. Like, popping blues and
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: yellows and blues.
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: Like, early. I was like, yo, you dudes, like, really?
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: What?
[1:03:08] Speaker 3: When I found out, I was.
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: Yellows and blues. You wasn't doing it?
[1:03:11] Speaker 3: No, not at night, nah.
[1:03:13] Speaker 5: Oh, you was faithful.
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: No, it was.
[1:03:17] Speaker 3: You was faithful.
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: No, it was other.
[1:03:19] Speaker 3: Faithful.
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: Drink it. Drink it.
[1:03:20] Speaker 5: What?
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the drink to get it. The drink to
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: get it right. No, what is wrong with you? Yellows
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: and blues. I didn't find that out until it was
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: like 2009, 10. I found out dudes was cheating. Stacking
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: the deck.
[1:03:32] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: See, no, no, no.
[1:03:35] Speaker 5: So when you go on the road, right, it's just
[1:03:38] Speaker 5: the Hennessy. It's just the Hennessy and the new girl.
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: Patron Red Bull.
[1:03:43] Speaker 5: You're popping it when you come back home because it's
[1:03:46] Speaker 5: your wife and girlfriend. Yeah, you got to pretend that
[1:03:50] Speaker 5: you excited, right?
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: So you popping it on the plane, right? Do you
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: get home? Oh, I miss you so much. Look at it.
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: Oh, already. Already.
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: You know, you've been there. When you get home, she
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: all in a lingerie. You can't get it up. You're like, ah, man,
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: what you been doing on the road? Back to back
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: the bar to protect our interests. Hey, it's kind of
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: empty down here, baby. It's empty.
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: Why is it empty down here? We got an important conversation.
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: Walking in the house is strong.
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: Thinking about you on the bus.
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: I ain't never had that.
[1:04:24] Speaker 2: Shit, we just had seven games, ten days, caught a
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: Charlie Haas on the plane. Don't fucking touch me. Yeah, nah, yeah.
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: So that gets you in a fight right there. Don't fucking,
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: caught a Charlie Haas on the plane. Don't fucking touch me.
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: One of my vets taught me that.
[1:04:37] Speaker 5: He said, hey, man, y'all here seeing these beautiful girls, man.
[1:04:40] Speaker 5: Go back to the thing you got at home. You
[1:04:42] Speaker 5: ain't excited no more. Better go ahead and.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: Pop one of these.
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: Shout out to Rose Sparks for sponsoring the show. So
[1:04:48] Speaker 3: if you've been following Scottie Pippen on social media for
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: the last few years, you know he's been a bit
[1:04:53] Speaker 3: turnt up these days. So in a recent appearance on
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: the PBD podcast, Pippen said he was a better team
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: player than LeBron James, citing his six chips won alongside
[1:05:03] Speaker 3: Michael Jordan and the Bulls.
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: Here is the clip.
[1:05:05] Speaker 3: Would you put yourself ahead of LeBron as a team standpoint?
[1:05:09] Speaker 6: My success as a team is more successful than LeBron.
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: I got six rings. Okay.
[1:05:16] Speaker 11: So then if I talk to an NBA owner, by
[1:05:21] Speaker 11: the way, this is very helpful because for me.
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: As a fan, I've followed this.
[1:05:26] Speaker 11: So if I speak from an NBA standpoint, owner, and
[1:05:29] Speaker 11: I want to find an all-around player to be my
[1:05:33] Speaker 11: number one, You think the average owner is going to.
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: Pick you or LeBron?
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: Got it. Okay. So that... You.
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: Want individual accolades or you want championships?
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: Because I didn't chase mine.
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: Okay. So... We got to discuss it.
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: Do you agree that Scottie Pippen is a better player
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: than LeBron from a team standpoint?
[1:06:10] Speaker 5: No, that's not even how you ask the question.
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: You're changing the... Get him, get him, get him, get him.
[1:06:18] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, it's a stupid question.
[1:06:21] Speaker 8: You're asking it as who's a better... If you want
[1:06:28] Speaker 8: to know who's a better player, just say who's the
[1:06:29] Speaker 8: better player between you and Pippen.
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:06:33] Speaker 5: Who had more team success, obviously the person with six rings, right?
[1:06:37] Speaker 3: If you ask Robert Horry.
[1:06:39] Speaker 5: Who had more team success, you or Michael Jordan, he's
[1:06:44] Speaker 5: going to say him because he got seven rings. So
[1:06:47] Speaker 5: depending on how you word the fucking question, that's the
[1:06:52] Speaker 5: type of confusion you get.
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:06:58] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:06:59] Speaker 10: But then he reworded it. But then he reworded it, right?
[1:07:02] Speaker 10: The question is the question. Look how he reworded it.
[1:07:04] Speaker 10: But then he reworded it, didn't he? From a team
[1:07:07] Speaker 10: success team. Okay, team success. So all that is actually...
[1:07:10] Speaker 10: It's about the GM shit, right?
[1:07:11] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: But you see how he worded it? Yeah.
[1:07:13] Speaker 3: He's changing the wording. Yeah, he changed the words to get.
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: And that's why Scott said he didn't know who the
[1:07:18] Speaker 2: GMs would pick, like who people would pick over.
[1:07:20] Speaker 5: He said who would pick for a team as... Like,
[1:07:22] Speaker 5: once you put team in it, then it has nothing
[1:07:24] Speaker 5: to do with them. Now it's just about your accolades.
[1:07:26] Speaker 5: Who has better team success? Scotty, you got six.
[1:07:29] Speaker 7: Well, the difference, I think, in the conversation is Scotty
[1:07:32] Speaker 7: played a role in that team's success. LeBron played a
[1:07:37] Speaker 7: role in the team's success. Scotty was never number one.
[1:07:40] Speaker 7: LeBron was.
[1:07:42] Speaker 3: So he's saying LeBron didn't have as much success as
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: he had as number one.
[1:07:47] Speaker 7: He feel like he can step in at number two
[1:07:49] Speaker 7: on any situation and win. That's how Scotty's looking at it. Like,
[1:07:54] Speaker 7: I'm number two. And I've always had team success. We
[1:07:57] Speaker 7: were 6-0.
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: My main guy, I helped us win.
[1:08:04] Speaker 7: And if I'm put in that situation when anybody else
[1:08:06] Speaker 7: has a number two, I feel like.
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: I can do that too. LeBron don't.
[1:08:12] Speaker 7: But he said, he said if. And then he said
[1:08:14] Speaker 7: individual accolades. If you look at individual accolades, I'm sure
[1:08:17] Speaker 7: you're going to pick LeBron. But if you're going to
[1:08:19] Speaker 7: look for team success.
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: As a number one option, he changed it. He didn't
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: say nothing about number one. Yeah, he did. Watch it.
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: As I said, if you listen to him, he changes words. Watch.
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: Play it again. Watch this.
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: He says it.
[1:08:32] Speaker 11: Why would you put yourself ahead of LeBron as a
[1:08:35] Speaker 11: team standpoint?
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: Right there. As a team standpoint. My success as a
[1:08:38] Speaker 3: team is more successful than LeBron.
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: I got six rings.
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: Correct.
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: Correct. My success as a team. That's what I'm saying.
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: If I talk to an NBA.
[1:08:49] Speaker 11: Owner, by the way, this is very helpful because for
[1:08:53] Speaker 11: me as a fan, I've followed this. So if I
[1:08:56] Speaker 11: speak from an NBA standpoint, owner, and I want to
[1:08:58] Speaker 11: find an all-around player, to be my number one you
[1:09:02] Speaker 11: think the average owner is going to pick you or lebron.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:09:09] Speaker 7: You can't See, because Scottie's never been number one.
[1:09:12] Speaker 2: He's never been number one, so no, they wouldn't pick him.
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: He was number one when Mike left. But the thing is,
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: LeBron's success as the number one is below 500. But
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: we don't know what Scottie Pippen's number one.
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: That's why he said he don't know.
[1:09:30] Speaker 7: That's why he said, I don't know who they would
[1:09:31] Speaker 7: pick because he has to factor in the fact that
[1:09:34] Speaker 7: I ain't never been the number one.
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: He has no accolades as the number one option.
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: He's been the number one at points in his career.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: MJ left.
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: He was the number one on that board. So he
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: has no rings. He has no rings.
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: He has no nothing. No team success. He wasn't number
[1:09:52] Speaker 3: one in Portland. He wasn't number one in Houston. No,
[1:09:56] Speaker 3: not in Houston either.
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: Cheap.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: Questionable.
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know for a fact.
[1:10:04] Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying.
[1:10:06] Speaker 2: If you're saying he said for number one, right? So it's... Like,
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: I don't like the debate when they have a number
[1:10:12] Speaker 2: one option versus a number one option. He was not
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: number one important.
[1:10:14] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: That's just like Clay putting himself against a number one option.
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: He can't do that.
[1:10:21] Speaker 5: Number one option has different responsibilities.
[1:10:26] Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if you look at Scottie Pippen and
[1:10:28] Speaker 7: the reason why he's saying he don't know is because
[1:10:30] Speaker 7: he feels he does the same things that LeBron does
[1:10:34] Speaker 7: at that size.
[1:10:35] Speaker 5: No, you don't do the same thing as LeBron do.
[1:10:37] Speaker 5: You do number two stuff. You don't do what LeBron does.
[1:10:43] Speaker 5: You do number two. You are second. What's the difference
[1:10:46] Speaker 5: between the two? What's the difference between the two?
[1:10:50] Speaker 2: One gets... Both of them are point forwards. Yeah, one's
[1:10:53] Speaker 2: a point forward from option two. One's a point forward
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: from option one. Well, let's take away from the options.
[1:10:58] Speaker 3: I'm talking about as far as attributes and comparisons of player.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: Joe. They're the same type of guy.
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: No, they're the same type. There's a difference between a
[1:11:07] Speaker 5: starting point guard and a backup guard.
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: They're both point guards, but they have different roles. But
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: that's the viewpoint, perspective of Scotty Pippen talking about this, thinking, well,
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: me and LeBron, we play the same position. Whatever GM
[1:11:20] Speaker 2: pick him, they could get a good pick at me
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: second because I could do the same things he could do.
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: That's how he look.
[1:11:25] Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know what you would do, but
[1:11:27] Speaker 3: if you want to win, I won.
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: And I know he's.
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: Saying it from the standpoint of the options, but that's
[1:11:34] Speaker 3: his argument is that from his point, he's looking at
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: it like that.
[1:11:37] Speaker 5: The real question is, okay, if there's 30 teams, right,
[1:11:40] Speaker 5: and everybody got a number one pick, are you going
[1:11:42] Speaker 5: first round?
[1:11:43] Speaker 2: Right. Are you going to go, yeah. Are you going
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: to go in the first round to one? No. Who, Scottie?
[1:11:48] Speaker 3: Scottie. You don't think so?
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: No, because it's going to be all option ones first.
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: His option, no. He will be the first pick. BJ
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: picked him. BJ picked him in the draft.
[1:11:57] Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm saying, actually, Scottie, if you line.
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: Him up, Attributes. Yeah, all the stars.
[1:12:02] Speaker 3: Got it in there. Attributes.
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. Line them up.
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: Oh, he's going first round.
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: No, he won't.
[1:12:06] Speaker 3: Long arms. Athletic, guard.
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: That means 30 people get to pick. 30 people get
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: to pick one star. They got to pick a star
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: player first.
[1:12:14] Speaker 7: Out of what era are we talking about?
[1:12:15] Speaker 3: No, just line them up.
[1:12:17] Speaker 5: Just period. So you got 30. So basically, we all
[1:12:20] Speaker 5: get a pick in our round, right?
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. So all of us got to go for a player.
[1:12:24] Speaker 3: Scottie's going. Scottie is not. He's a second option. But
[1:12:27] Speaker 3: it don't.
[1:12:28] Speaker 2: Matter, though. Yeah, it does. No, it don't.
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: You said Kobe was a glorified second option?
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: But he turned into a number one option. Pippen never
[1:12:35] Speaker 2: turned into a number one option.
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: First year without MJ, he averaged 22, 9, and 6.
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: Finished third in MVP voting.
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: 22, 9, and 6, bro.
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: Third in MVP voting, fourth in MVP voting. Third in
[1:12:47] Speaker 3: MVP voting.
[1:12:48] Speaker 2: He's a glorified number one.
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: Next year was 21. First pick as a second option. 21, 8,
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: and 5. He also averaged three steals a game, led
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: the league. Averaged three steals the previous season as well.
[1:12:58] Speaker 7: Great numbers. Those were great numbers during that time.
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: Three steals?
[1:13:04] Speaker 5: Damn.
[1:13:04] Speaker 7: You had to line up who was going to get
[1:13:06] Speaker 7: picked in front of him.
[1:13:08] Speaker 3: Who's going to get picked in front of him in history?
[1:13:10] Speaker 3: I'm looking at attributes. Yes, because Brandon picked Scottie Pippen, bro.
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: Who? Brandon in our draft. You know, you did.
[1:13:17] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he picked Scottie. I thought it was Brandon.
[1:13:20] Speaker 2: He picked him.
[1:13:20] Speaker 3: You have the first pick. There's 30 teams. You have
[1:13:22] Speaker 3: the first pick. In the draft.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: So that means you got to think about every superstar first.
[1:13:28] Speaker 2: You got one player to pick. You got one star.
[1:13:31] Speaker 5: So that means all the ten fucking centers, all the shooting.
[1:13:34] Speaker 2: Guards ever, the power forward.
[1:13:36] Speaker 3: Scottie's gone.
[1:13:37] Speaker 2: Scottie's gone.
[1:13:39] Speaker 3: Wasn't Scottie the top 50? Wasn't Scottie the top 50
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: player all the time when they did the top 50?
[1:13:47] Speaker 3: Is he top 75?
[1:13:48] Speaker 2: Yes. I'm looking at, like, just him. If you line
[1:13:52] Speaker 2: him up, right, how they do, if you line him up, height,
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: arm length, skill set, dribbling, shooting, defense, Scottie's getting.
[1:14:04] Speaker 3: Picked, bro. And you're saying by attributes. You're saying by attributes.
[1:14:08] Speaker 2: Absolutely. You're not talking about accolades.
[1:14:11] Speaker 3: I'm talking about just periods.
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: Yes. Your first player is your franchise player. He might
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: be 30. Your first player is your franchise player.
[1:14:20] Speaker 3: Remember the criteria we're using.
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: The criteria is that. That one player is who you're
[1:14:25] Speaker 2: building your team around. Yes. He does everything. From an
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: attribute standpoint. Gil, he does everything. He's a better defender
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: than LeBron James. Absolutely. He does everything. So you're going
[1:14:34] Speaker 2: to draft him over LeBron?
[1:14:35] Speaker 3: Did I say that?
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: I'm just asking. I just said the motherfucker would go 30,
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: but he still could go. You missed that point. Are
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: you picking him over Kawhi Leonard? Yes.
[1:14:45] Speaker 3: As your star player? Yes.
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: Are you picking him over.
[1:14:48] Speaker 3: So I just gave you... Dwyane Wade.
[1:14:49] Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, you're picking him over KD.
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: It's a question.
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: You're picking him over Harden. It's a question.
[1:14:56] Speaker 3: Start picking him over James Harden.
[1:14:58] Speaker 2: He does more, right?
[1:14:59] Speaker 3: Remember, he's talking about attributes, not career.
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: Not highlights, not accolades. So you want to pick an attribute.
[1:15:05] Speaker 3: Scottie Pippen automatically gets picked because those niggas don't play defense.
[1:15:08] Speaker 2: So you're talking about accolades or attributes?
[1:15:10] Speaker 3: Your attributes.
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: I'm picking him over guys that you are naming. I'm
[1:15:14] Speaker 2: picking Scottie Pippen over those guys.
[1:15:16] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: No question about it. As your first pick. Absolutely. Over
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: James Harden?
[1:15:22] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: Attributes. We talking attributes.
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: Yes, my first pick of totality of his game, what
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: he does to affect win and lose.
[1:15:31] Speaker 7: Yes, Scottie Pippen, for sure.
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: Four plus minus. Long arms.
[1:15:35] Speaker 7: Plus minus all day. He going to have a plus 43.
[1:15:38] Speaker 3: Pass the ball. He going to guard the best guy
[1:15:41] Speaker 3: on the other end. And he going to never come out.
[1:15:43] Speaker 3: He ain't going to say I'm tired. He ain't going
[1:15:45] Speaker 3: to do none of that.
[1:15:45] Speaker 7: Multiple positions. How many times does Scottie Pippen get hurt? Well,
[1:15:49] Speaker 7: he durable as fuck.
[1:15:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can play him in multiple positions. Some
[1:15:52] Speaker 2: of the other guys, they can only play one position. Absolutely.
[1:15:55] Speaker 3: And he can guard multiple positions. One through four.
[1:15:58] Speaker 2: So that's my, so yes, absolutely.
[1:16:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, facts.
[1:16:01] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:16:02] Speaker 7: This is a conversation because we talked about attributes.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: I'm a big Kawhi fan of James, but Scotty, attributes
[1:16:09] Speaker 2: and what he's going to do to affect what we're
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: trying to do here, win?
[1:16:13] Speaker 3: Facts. Oh, fuck it.
[1:16:14] Speaker 2: It's a conversation.
[1:16:15] Speaker 3: They need him a question. For sure.
[1:16:16] Speaker 2: They need him a question. And he's going to buy
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: into it. He's your star player, buy into what? The team.
[1:16:23] Speaker 3: The team.
[1:16:24] Speaker 2: What do you mean?
[1:16:26] Speaker 3: What star players should do?
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: Buy into the team. Like you said, I saw a clip,
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: you said, the star player should get everybody to, if
[1:16:34] Speaker 2: you listening to the coach, everybody else will listen, right?
[1:16:39] Speaker 3: Your words.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: So if he listening and buying in, the star player,
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: everybody else will do the same, correct? Absolutely. So buying
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: in is not just you being the second, I was
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: buying in with everybody's notes. Star player.
[1:16:50] Speaker 5: The star player buying into what the coach is preaching.
[1:16:52] Speaker 5: I got to get these guys involved. He's listening. He's
[1:16:55] Speaker 5: doing everything. He's first in line drills. He's first in this.
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: He's being a leader, but he's buying into what I'm preaching,
[1:17:00] Speaker 2: the star guy.
[1:17:01] Speaker 3: Hey, Cole.
[1:17:01] Speaker 7: Scottie would do that because he wants to win. Cole,
[1:17:03] Speaker 7: we need you to reel it back, big fella. We're
[1:17:05] Speaker 7: losing big fella. We need you to reel it back, bro.
[1:17:07] Speaker 3: Come on. Come on.
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: Bring it back. We're losing big fella. Throw it into him.
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: I got you, coach. So who else you want to
[1:17:17] Speaker 2: throw out there or are we picking Scottie over? Keep going.
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: Don't do that.
[1:17:22] Speaker 3: Keep going.
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: Don't do that. Your star players, your number one figures.
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: Name some other players who.
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: In their day.
[1:17:28] Speaker 5: I asked two general managers when I heard that.
[1:17:30] Speaker 3: No, I'm asking you. You brought guys up. They said...
[1:17:33] Speaker 3: You throwing names out there.
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: He's going to go late second or third round.
[1:17:36] Speaker 3: That's them.
[1:17:37] Speaker 2: What about you, though?
[1:17:38] Speaker 5: He's a glue option player. Yeah, that is the number
[1:17:41] Speaker 5: one option. Your number one player is the guy who's
[1:17:43] Speaker 5: supposed to carry the load.
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: And them same GMs that you asked this question to...
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: Have they been fired? Had to be. Had to have been.
[1:17:53] Speaker 2: Already for sure. And name me some of the guys
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: that they've drafted.
[1:17:57] Speaker 3: You're arguing about a player who actually ain't done it.
[1:18:00] Speaker 3: That's the problem.
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: But we're talking about attributes. I'm talking about your start.
[1:18:03] Speaker 2: This is your first pick. You're moving to go, folks.
[1:18:06] Speaker 3: No.
[1:18:06] Speaker 2: No, you're changing it. You're talking about attributes. I'm talking about.
[1:18:09] Speaker 3: You were silent.
[1:18:10] Speaker 2: You had the first pick to start your franchise. My
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: number one pick. Yes. To start my franchise.
[1:18:16] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:18:17] Speaker 2: The Michael Jordan, the LeBron, the Kobe, the Shaq, the Kareem,
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: the Magic, the Duncan, the.
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: Wilt, the Tim.
[1:18:24] Speaker 5: And you're going to say, you're going to say, you
[1:18:26] Speaker 5: just said, so now you got, so who has it?
[1:18:28] Speaker 5: Is he in the top 30 of guys that you
[1:18:29] Speaker 5: can name?
[1:18:30] Speaker 3: He's top 50 all the time, girl.
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: You're a blue guy. Did you see Tangu? All those
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: guys that you just named, did I say that we
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: would pick him over them?
[1:18:37] Speaker 3: No.
[1:18:39] Speaker 2: Did I say that we would pick him over them?
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: I can keep going.
[1:18:41] Speaker 4: Keep going.
[1:18:42] Speaker 2: I can keep going. I keep going. Kevin Durant, I
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: can go with. Okay. Jokic, Luka, Shea. Over him.
[1:18:49] Speaker 3: I can go with. Shea? Over Shea, over Luka.
[1:18:52] Speaker 9: What?
[1:18:52] Speaker 3: Did you just say you want to take Shea back?
[1:18:55] Speaker 2: I can go with. Okay. Just this era. Keep going.
[1:18:59] Speaker 2: Keep going. Give me a list. Give me a list.
[1:19:01] Speaker 2: As soon as we want to waste time, I'll do it.
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: Keep going. I'll do it. I'm going to pick a
[1:19:04] Speaker 2: glorified option two. We know you're going to do it
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: because you can't do it in real time. We don't
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: need you to go fucking research the shit and then eliminate,
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: process the elimination. You don't even know if he's capable
[1:19:12] Speaker 2: of doing it. You want to line up the action.
[1:19:14] Speaker 5: No, no.
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: Right now. In real time, tell me.
[1:19:18] Speaker 3: Get off that damn phone and tell me about basketball.
[1:19:21] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Tell me about ball.
[1:19:23] Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:19:25] Speaker 5: So you don't know if none of the other guys
[1:19:27] Speaker 5: can do it neither because we.
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: Lining them up on top with attributes. Attributes. Ain't nobody,
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: everybody has a fucking clean slate. Period. You can't do that. What?
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: How do you just say, oh, you was a star.
[1:19:38] Speaker 3: Because we talking about skill level.
[1:19:41] Speaker 2: We talking about what you can do. What you can do. That's, that's, no,
[1:19:45] Speaker 2: you can't. Yes, we can.
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: Your attributes?
[1:19:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: That's what we just said. And you said yes. Okay,
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: what does the attributes mean? You're taking away the whole career. Skills. No,
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: he's taking that away.
[1:19:57] Speaker 3: No.
[1:19:58] Speaker 2: That's what an attribute is. That's what important of it is.
[1:20:00] Speaker 2: It's your attributes. Skills is dribbling, shooting, and passing, motherfucker. Okay,
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: so his dribbling, his shooting, passing, defense, rebounding. All of it. Rebounding.
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: All of it. All of that.
[1:20:11] Speaker 3: Steals.
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: Steals. Awareness. Awareness. So the thought of it.
[1:20:17] Speaker 3: Power.
[1:20:18] Speaker 2: Is your star player. Height. Height. All of it. Body weight.
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: All right, so you said you would pick Kawhi? Yes.
[1:20:26] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: Why? Because he's top 50. His hands just as bigger. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:20:31] Speaker 3: He's taller.
[1:20:32] Speaker 5: Arms just as long, just as good as the defender.
[1:20:35] Speaker 5: He's a point forward. He handles the ball way better.
[1:20:37] Speaker 2: He does just the same amount of things Kawhi Leonard.
[1:20:39] Speaker 5: Just the same. Everything has been just.
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: You can pick one or the other. I'm picking Scottie.
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: I'm picking Scottie. He's available. Scottie Pippen is a six-time champion. No,
[1:20:48] Speaker 2: you can't use that. So we're not using it, right?
[1:20:51] Speaker 2: I'm picking Scottie.
[1:20:52] Speaker 3: He just said it.
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: He just said it. I'm picking Scottie. You line him
[1:20:56] Speaker 2: and Kawhi up together, and we don't know. I'm picking
[1:20:58] Speaker 2: Scottie Pippen. Okay. Okay? Okay.
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: How about Allen Iverson? Why you going to your phone?
[1:21:04] Speaker 3: What's on the phone? Use your brain. I know you
[1:21:09] Speaker 3: don't want to use your brain.
[1:21:11] Speaker 2: I know you don't want to use your brain. I
[1:21:13] Speaker 2: want to use real hard facts.
[1:21:15] Speaker 3: I'm going to name top 75.
[1:21:17] Speaker 2: I'm going to name top 75. And we're going to
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: see who you pick. You said AI, right? You just
[1:21:22] Speaker 2: said AI. Scotty. Oh, Scotty.
[1:21:25] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:21:28] Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Okay.
[1:21:30] Speaker 3: Attributes.
[1:21:32] Speaker 2: Scotty. Scotty.
[1:21:33] Speaker 3: You're using.
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: We're going to start from the.
[1:21:36] Speaker 3: Whatever you want to start from.
[1:21:37] Speaker 2: Y'all got the timing. We got the timing. He did
[1:21:39] Speaker 2: the big swipes.
[1:21:41] Speaker 3: So is he going to go in?
[1:21:43] Speaker 5: Remember, how many teams are there?
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: Lakers, all of that.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: Lakers, all of that.
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: Remember, this is your first pick. First pick. We got
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: first to 30, what you said, right?
[1:21:53] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: Third to 30. Every team gets their first pick. One
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: through 30. Okay, let's go. Michael Jordan. No. LeBron James. No.
[1:22:02] Speaker 3: Kareem.
[1:22:02] Speaker 2: No.
[1:22:03] Speaker 3: Magic.
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: No. Wilt. No. Bill Russell. No.
[1:22:09] Speaker 3: In the era that he came about? Do he got
[1:22:11] Speaker 3: to play with Chucks and do it on his wall? Right?
[1:22:13] Speaker 3: I'm just naming them.
[1:22:14] Speaker 2: Attributes. Attributes. Yeah. Larry Bird.
[1:22:20] Speaker 5: No.
[1:22:21] Speaker 3: Tim Duncan.
[1:22:22] Speaker 2: No.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: Oscar Robertson.
[1:22:24] Speaker 2: No. Good answer.
[1:22:26] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: Shaq. No.
[1:22:28] Speaker 3: Kevin Durant.
[1:22:29] Speaker 5: No.
[1:22:30] Speaker 2: Hakeem. No. Julius Ervin. Maybe. Moses Malone. Maybe.
[1:22:39] Speaker 3: Steph Curry.
[1:22:40] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:22:41] Speaker 3: Dirk Nowinski. Yes.
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: Giannis.
[1:22:46] Speaker 3: Same, at the time, attributes.
[1:22:48] Speaker 2: Whoever said yes got to go.
[1:22:50] Speaker 3: Whoever said yes got to leave the arena.
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: Whoever said it. I'm going to let you keep going.
[1:22:55] Speaker 2: I put, listen, Giannis, Kawhi, Scottie, all of them. along
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: the same Kevin Durant, like, if we were talking acting,
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: they're along the same spectrum for me. You put Giannis
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: and Scottie at the same... Same spe... I'm talking about attributes. Attributes. See,
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: big hands, long arms.
[1:23:11] Speaker 3: Every time he say it, y'all think, y'all think, damn, Giannis,
[1:23:15] Speaker 3: because he's boring.
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. If we're picking teams, right?
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: I know you're good. And we line them up, right?
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: I'm looking at how big hands is, how long his
[1:23:23] Speaker 2: arms are. All of those things matter. That's what I'm saying.
[1:23:27] Speaker 2: Can you play Giannis at the point guard? Can you
[1:23:29] Speaker 2: play Giannis at the point guard? So, go ahead.
[1:23:31] Speaker 5: But, like, whatever their skill level is, that's what you're saying.
[1:23:35] Speaker 3: Those are attributes.
[1:23:36] Speaker 2: I don't want to do fantasy.
[1:23:38] Speaker 5: The conversation that we're having, I'm telling you the way
[1:23:41] Speaker 5: my brain is. Like, he's averaging 22. This man's averaging
[1:23:44] Speaker 5: 30 and 12. They're not on the same level. They're
[1:23:48] Speaker 5: on different teams.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: So, go ahead. You're on different teams. Yeah, you get
[1:23:52] Speaker 2: the ball every time.
[1:23:53] Speaker 3: So, let's go.
[1:23:54] Speaker 7: He gets to shoot 30 times a game.
[1:23:55] Speaker 2: So, let's go. So you're not going to count? So
[1:23:58] Speaker 2: let's go. Your attributes aren't better than mine. You get
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: to shoot more.
[1:24:01] Speaker 3: Than I do.
[1:24:01] Speaker 5: No, my attributes and whatever that is, I'm better than you.
[1:24:04] Speaker 2: No, you're not. You get to shoot more than I do.
[1:24:06] Speaker 3: Let's go. What?
[1:24:07] Speaker 7: You get to shoot more than I do.
[1:24:09] Speaker 2: You're not better than me. You get to shoot more
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: than I do. No, I'm better. No, you're not. You
[1:24:14] Speaker 2: get to shoot the ball ten times more than I do.
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: That sounds like loser shit.
[1:24:18] Speaker 3: Which means you get ten more points than I do.
[1:24:21] Speaker 3: Matter of fact, you actually played 20 more minutes than
[1:24:24] Speaker 3: I do, and you're only five points ahead of me,
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: but you're so much better than me.
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: No, nigga.
[1:24:28] Speaker 7: If I play more minutes, I'm going to average more points.
[1:24:31] Speaker 7: Would that mean that I'm better than you now?
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: If you're using if.
[1:24:37] Speaker 5: We don't know what you would do with an extra
[1:24:38] Speaker 5: five more minutes.
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: Let's go then. You said no Steph Curry.
[1:24:43] Speaker 2: How many people we got?
[1:24:43] Speaker 9: 20.
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: So there's 20 already.
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: And he's been above a few. Yeah, he's been above
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: a few.
[1:24:49] Speaker 3: I'm just naming the top 75. Y'all ain't heard no numbers.
[1:24:51] Speaker 2: We're waiting on you. There's already 20 people.
[1:24:53] Speaker 5: Damn.
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: And he's on the list already. Over at least 10
[1:25:03] Speaker 3: of them. No, that's it. Remember, we haven't heard no
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: big men yet.
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: Okay. Jerry West. Yes.
[1:25:09] Speaker 3: Elgin Baylor. Can you think about it? I'm thinking of...
[1:25:13] Speaker 3: The Elgin step. Elgin's good.
[1:25:15] Speaker 2: Really good. Euro gentrified it. No.
[1:25:19] Speaker 3: So, no. I said no. Okay, Kevin Durant.
[1:25:21] Speaker 2: I mean, Kevin Garnett. You got to start saying no
[1:25:27] Speaker 2: now because you already up there and we don't... What
[1:25:29] Speaker 2: do you mean I got to start now? You got
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: to say no. I'm not even close to 75 yet.
[1:25:34] Speaker 2: You on the fan side of it, bro. This is
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: hoot shit. I'm saying the numbers. We're looking at attributes. Nah, nah, nah.
[1:25:40] Speaker 2: It's already sold. It's crazy. Kevin Garnett. Yes. Okay.
[1:25:44] Speaker 3: Charles Barkley.
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: Yes. Car Malone. Yes. John Stockton. Yes.
[1:25:49] Speaker 3: David Robinson. No.
[1:25:51] Speaker 2: John Havichick. Yes. Isaiah Thomas.
[1:25:53] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: Yes. George Mikan. Yes. That was easy.
[1:25:57] Speaker 3: Yes. Dwayne Wade.
[1:25:59] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:26:00] Speaker 3: Allen Iverson. Yes. Oh, they got them 32 right here.
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard.
[1:26:04] Speaker 2: Yes. Bob Cousy.
[1:26:05] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Bob Pettit. Well, Kawhi is a maybe. I said they
[1:26:09] Speaker 2: all in the same. Bob and Bob, yes and yes.
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: Dominic Wilkins.
[1:26:14] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: Steve Nash. Yes. Rick Barry. Yes. Kevin McHale. Am I
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: supposed to say this now? It was just MLK Day.
[1:26:26] Speaker 2: Think about it.
[1:26:27] Speaker 4: Think about it.
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
[1:26:32] Speaker 3: Yes. Patrick Ewing? No.
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: Walt Frazier? Yes.
[1:26:36] Speaker 3: Gary Payton? Yes. Jason Kidd? No.
[1:26:44] Speaker 2: Bill Walton? No, at the time, no.
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: Bob McAdoo?
[1:26:48] Speaker 2: No. Jerry Lucas? Yes.
[1:26:52] Speaker 3: I'm not even going to say Ray Allen.
[1:26:53] Speaker 2: Weston Seltz?
[1:26:54] Speaker 5: No.
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: Nate Thurman.
[1:26:57] Speaker 3: James Harden. Yes.
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: Reggie Miller.
[1:27:00] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:27:00] Speaker 2: George Gervin. No.
[1:27:03] Speaker 3: Clyde Drexler.
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: Yes. Pete Maravich. Yes. Earl Monroe. Yes.
[1:27:10] Speaker 3: James Worthy. That's the third option.
[1:27:12] Speaker 2: He'll own the same as the mother do. When is that?
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: We're on 50. He'll own. He's in there.
[1:27:19] Speaker 3: Keep going. So, yes. Yeah, all the names.
[1:27:21] Speaker 2: It's starting to get boring now because we already know. Attribute-wise,
[1:27:24] Speaker 2: like all the names. No, no, no. Stop saying attribute.
[1:27:26] Speaker 2: We're talking about just the player themselves. Okay. Oh, so
[1:27:28] Speaker 2: we're changing it. So we just changed it?
[1:27:29] Speaker 3: No, I've never changed it.
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: You keep using attributes.
[1:27:32] Speaker 3: What is Reed? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:27:34] Speaker 2: Alvin Hayes. So we're not talking about attributes no more?
[1:27:36] Speaker 5: Alvin Hayes.
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: I thought it was, too. Did you see how your
[1:27:39] Speaker 2: boy changed it?
[1:27:40] Speaker 3: He's not talking. I'm saying the player. Nate Archibald.
[1:27:46] Speaker 2: Yes. Sam Jones. Called in real time.
[1:27:49] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: No. Dave Cowan. Called him in real time again. Paul Pierce.
[1:27:54] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:27:55] Speaker 2: Robert Parrish. Yes.
[1:27:57] Speaker 3: Not the Chief, no.
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: Paul Greer.
[1:27:59] Speaker 12: Who?
[1:28:00] Speaker 3: Yes. Lenny Wilkins.
[1:28:02] Speaker 2: Hal Greer.
[1:28:02] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:28:03] Speaker 5: Paul Greer. Dennis Rodman. Russell Westbrook.
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:28:08] Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony.
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:28:10] Speaker 3: Anthony Davis.
[1:28:12] Speaker 2: So you put him, Carmelo Anthony, you put him with
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: the other dudes. Yeah, with Kawhi and all them. With
[1:28:17] Speaker 2: Kawhi on my list. Dane Lillard.
[1:28:20] Speaker 3: No.
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: I mean, yes.
[1:28:22] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the top 75. Where is he? Where
[1:28:25] Speaker 2: is he at so far? Uh, we're winning.
[1:28:28] Speaker 3: Okay, so you went over.
[1:28:30] Speaker 5: All right, so now we have, what, Tracy McGrady.
[1:28:34] Speaker 3: Put him on the.
[1:28:35] Speaker 2: I'm picking... You put him on the list with the
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: other dudes.
[1:28:39] Speaker 3: Okay, Vince Carter.
[1:28:43] Speaker 2: Put him on the list with the other dudes. Shit,
[1:28:47] Speaker 2: we got, what? Put him on the list with the
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: other dudes. Who? Put him on the list with the Kawhis.
[1:28:51] Speaker 3: Graham? Put him on that list.
[1:28:53] Speaker 5: Shit, I can't think about the people who didn't make
[1:28:55] Speaker 5: top 75 yet.
[1:28:57] Speaker 2: Put him on that list.
[1:28:59] Speaker 3: Scottie Pippen was pretty damn good.
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: Who hasn't made the top 75?
[1:29:01] Speaker 5: Scottie Pippen was pretty damn good.
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: Oh, so you got Dwight Howard. And now we think
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: about who they are as basketball players. Now we know,
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: now we got all the names, right?
[1:29:11] Speaker 5: I mean, because we still don't have this era.
[1:29:12] Speaker 3: Okay, we still got all the names.
[1:29:13] Speaker 2: We don't got Jokic, we don't got Giannis, we don't have... Okay,
[1:29:17] Speaker 2: I'm picking them over. You're picking them over this whole era.
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: I'm picking Scottie over Jokic. Okay.
[1:29:23] Speaker 3: Giannis is on the.
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: If you want to put the new guys in it,
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: there ain't too many on the motherfucker. Mm. But we're
[1:29:30] Speaker 2: gonna throw, what, Wimby? He ain't on it.
[1:29:33] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:29:35] Speaker 2: Well, he's not on the list?
[1:29:36] Speaker 3: Why would he be?
[1:29:37] Speaker 5: Because you're, I mean, this is, you're picking, you're picking
[1:29:42] Speaker 5: a player.
[1:29:43] Speaker 3: So, Luka?
[1:29:43] Speaker 2: That motherfucker 12. Luka? He's 13. So, no Luka too?
[1:29:49] Speaker 3: No, I'm picking Scottie over him.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: Ja Morant?
[1:29:51] Speaker 3: I'm picking Scottie over him.
[1:29:52] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:29:53] Speaker 3: He's 6'2.
[1:29:54] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis? I mean, not Anthony Edwards? No, he's 6'4.
[1:29:59] Speaker 7: I'm going with the taller guy. The guy with the
[1:30:02] Speaker 7: long arms. The guy that you would pick. The guy
[1:30:04] Speaker 7: that you would pick.
[1:30:06] Speaker 3: Logically, you know he's picked. You would pick him, too.
[1:30:10] Speaker 3: Because you would want to go big, and you would
[1:30:13] Speaker 3: want to go versatile. You would want to use a
[1:30:16] Speaker 3: guy like him.
[1:30:17] Speaker 7: When LeBron's not available, a guy like Scottie Gibson is
[1:30:20] Speaker 7: the other guy that does.
[1:30:21] Speaker 2: What he does. Listen to what he just said.
[1:30:23] Speaker 3: Look what he just said.
[1:30:24] Speaker 5: When LeBron James is not available.
[1:30:26] Speaker 2: So, Gil. Scottie can't be here. He has to be
[1:30:28] Speaker 2: option one. I give him number 30. You can't put
[1:30:30] Speaker 2: him back option two. We can put him at 30.
[1:30:31] Speaker 7: We're talking about player style.
[1:30:33] Speaker 2: I'm talking about player style.
[1:30:34] Speaker 3: I'm talking about if you pick LeBron before Scottie Pippen,
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: that's the player type.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: The next type.
[1:30:42] Speaker 3: Of player that's like that.
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: You're going to go with Scottie. He's just like that.
[1:30:48] Speaker 3: You pick LeBron first.
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: No, he's not just like that.
[1:30:50] Speaker 3: Stop saying he's just like that.
[1:30:52] Speaker 5: Oh, boy. One is 30-something points a game.
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: He has a game.
[1:30:57] Speaker 5: You can't take his game away from him because he
[1:30:59] Speaker 5: has the same amount of attributes.
[1:31:02] Speaker 2: Attributes is Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has attributes.
[1:31:06] Speaker 5: You line him up, I'm picking him. You picking Ben Simmons?
[1:31:09] Speaker 2: I don't know where on the list. Scottie over Ben Simmons?
[1:31:12] Speaker 2: I don't know where Ben Simmons is at on this
[1:31:14] Speaker 2: attribute list we speaking of.
[1:31:16] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: He knows where he is. He knows where Ben Simmons is.
[1:31:21] Speaker 5: You're using the word attributes to take away.
[1:31:25] Speaker 2: Now we did attributes, right? Now we think about them,
[1:31:27] Speaker 2: what we know of them as what they did on
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: the basketball floor. That's all we can go off of, right?
[1:31:35] Speaker 2: We was going on prior to any, so we were
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: taking anything that they've done in career. We think about,
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: the list that you just went over, the way this
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: brain worked, I'm lining the guys up. We at the park.
[1:31:50] Speaker 2: I might have seen you play, might not. I'm looking
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: at what you hear, Now we go for... So we
[1:31:59] Speaker 2: got this part of it, right? Okay, so basically you're
[1:32:01] Speaker 2: saying no skill, we don't know how they play.
[1:32:04] Speaker 3: Just looking at it.
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: We might have seen them play, we might not. Listen
[1:32:06] Speaker 2: to the words I'm using, Gilbert. We might have seen
[1:32:08] Speaker 2: them play, might not have seen them play. The ones
[1:32:11] Speaker 2: that you have seen play and they attributes line up,
[1:32:14] Speaker 2: you're going to pick them first. The other guys who
[1:32:19] Speaker 2: fit that same stature of what... Giannis fits that.
[1:32:23] Speaker 3: That's the look test.
[1:32:24] Speaker 2: It's the look test. It's the look test.
[1:32:26] Speaker 5: Okay, when can we get to the game test?
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: Now add that. Now we know of this, right? Okay.
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: We know what they've done. Now you watch them play basketball.
[1:32:36] Speaker 2: That's where I'm on. Now we can watch them go.
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: How they affect what we're doing out here.
[1:32:41] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: And it ain't just all about fucking putting the ball.
[1:32:45] Speaker 3: In the basket. Ever.
[1:32:46] Speaker 5: I just named top 75.
[1:32:47] Speaker 2: It ain't just about scoring. I hear you. Dudes score,
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: dudes do other things to affect what they team do winning,
[1:32:53] Speaker 2: yes or no. One A guys, one B, two, number two,
[1:32:57] Speaker 2: number three, whatever your, however y'all want to classify the
[1:33:01] Speaker 2: dude as, whether he's a number one option, a number
[1:33:04] Speaker 2: two option, number three option, he does something that's going
[1:33:07] Speaker 2: to fucking affect what they're doing for winning and losing.
[1:33:09] Speaker 3: Yes, right?
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. That's what we're talking about here. Whether you need
[1:33:13] Speaker 2: the motherfucker to go score 35 or the motherfucker to
[1:33:17] Speaker 2: average 22, 79, whatever the fuck you need him to
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: do for what you trying to get done.
[1:33:21] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:33:22] Speaker 2: Right? For you, it's scoring.
[1:33:25] Speaker 5: No.
[1:33:27] Speaker 2: I just want to know, like... For you. So the
[1:33:29] Speaker 2: number one thing for you is not scoring? Yeah, putting
[1:33:32] Speaker 2: the ball, like, carrying the team, yeah.
[1:33:33] Speaker 3: So.
[1:33:34] Speaker 2: Carrying the team. Yes. So for you, you go with
[1:33:37] Speaker 2: those guys, right? If you're picking... You watch them play.
[1:33:41] Speaker 2: You go on with the guys that score big first. Yes,
[1:33:46] Speaker 2: because you just spoke about points per game. I'm asking.
[1:33:48] Speaker 2: If you pick and you go on with the guy
[1:33:50] Speaker 2: that's putting the ball in the basket the best first, right?
[1:33:54] Speaker 2: And we can go down that list, right? You can
[1:33:56] Speaker 2: start here. Whatever you want, you can start. Whoever averaged
[1:34:00] Speaker 2: the most, Michael Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, however you want to
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: do it, right? But eventually, that runs out. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: That fucking runs out. So now you got the guy
[1:34:12] Speaker 2: averaging 22, 9, 7, 3 steals, 2 blocks. That's affecting
[1:34:18] Speaker 2: the game in the same way that them guys that
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: you picked up here. But he just got picked at 30. Yes.
[1:34:24] Speaker 3: It's the same fucking thing.
[1:34:26] Speaker 2: Full circle point. It's the same fucking thing. Full circle point.
[1:34:29] Speaker 3: That list probably stops at 15, 20. You know what
[1:34:33] Speaker 3: I'm saying? Yeah.
[1:34:33] Speaker 7: 15, 20, all them points per game and all the
[1:34:36] Speaker 7: stats that you could throw stat man, stat man in.
[1:34:39] Speaker 7: By 21, 22, it started looking like Scottie Pippen time.
[1:34:43] Speaker 5: First of all, there was 24 people in front of him.
[1:34:45] Speaker 5: Then you put another 15 people in the same board.
[1:34:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because he can choose. So 24 and 15 is what?
[1:34:50] Speaker 3: He can make a decision on if those guys he wants.
[1:34:53] Speaker 2: That's second round. So I said he was putting at 30, right?
[1:34:56] Speaker 2: I can pick him. I can pick anybody he wants
[1:34:59] Speaker 2: at 30. So to please you, I said I'll put
[1:35:00] Speaker 2: him at 30, Gil. So you can pick 29 other guys.
[1:35:05] Speaker 2: Any guys. Any guys you fucking want. He's going 30.
[1:35:08] Speaker 3: I can put him at 30.
[1:35:12] Speaker 2: At 30 on the list. And all the other guys
[1:35:15] Speaker 2: that I said on the same playing field with him,
[1:35:18] Speaker 2: they can go after him. Because they do the fucking
[1:35:20] Speaker 2: same thing. Same fucking thing. When we're talking about affecting
[1:35:28] Speaker 2: what we're doing between that 90 to 450. Turn him on.
[1:35:38] Speaker 5: No, it's... You're trying to give someone something that they
[1:35:43] Speaker 5: didn't have. Like, if we're going to go off of
[1:35:44] Speaker 5: just the eye test of this year.
[1:35:46] Speaker 2: Yes, that's what we're going on. Just how long they
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: look and all that. So we're going to go, we're
[1:35:50] Speaker 2: going to put Bo Outlaw in there? We're going on
[1:35:52] Speaker 2: the eye test. We're going to put Bo Outlaw. So
[1:35:55] Speaker 2: we went on the look and what they've done. So
[1:35:59] Speaker 2: we went with the look first. Then we went on
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: what they did when we watched them fucking play, Gil.
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: We just did that. So you're not putting Bo Outlaw
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: on there because Bo Outlaw didn't achieve what Scottie did
[1:36:10] Speaker 2: when I looked at him fucking play basketball.
[1:36:11] Speaker 5: But he achieved as a number two option because there
[1:36:14] Speaker 5: was a.
[1:36:14] Speaker 2: Number one option.
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: Even if it was a number two option, it was
[1:36:17] Speaker 3: more than fucking Bo Outlaw. Bro, he's still a high
[1:36:21] Speaker 3: level contributor.
[1:36:22] Speaker 2: When the number one guy wasn't there, he averaged the
[1:36:25] Speaker 2: numbers that I just gave you. 22. That's not enough
[1:36:28] Speaker 2: for you.
[1:36:29] Speaker 5: I mean, you took away a guy who averaging 30-something,
[1:36:31] Speaker 5: and then you averaged.
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: Because you base it all on points. I'm just... So
[1:36:34] Speaker 2: you ain't saying nothing about rebounds. 22, nine rebounds. You
[1:36:38] Speaker 2: ain't saying.
[1:36:38] Speaker 7: Nothing about rebounds or steals or assists. It's how many
[1:36:41] Speaker 7: points you average. It's not how many other things you do.
[1:36:45] Speaker 2: To affect the game. That's how you look one track
[1:36:47] Speaker 2: of the game.
[1:36:47] Speaker 3: You don't look at anything else other than if you
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: ain't scoring 30, you ain't shit.
[1:36:52] Speaker 5: So what would your lineup look like then if Scottie
[1:36:55] Speaker 5: Pittman's your number one pick?
[1:36:56] Speaker 2: Who's your number two pick? Oh, I showed you, motherfucker.
[1:37:00] Speaker 2: The team I put together. No, he wasn't your number.
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: Because this wasn't a criteria. I'm asking you now. No,
[1:37:06] Speaker 2: I'm asking you now.
[1:37:07] Speaker 3: If Scott is your first pick.
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal.
[1:37:10] Speaker 3: He would be picked already.
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: Well, you asked me who I would pick.
[1:37:12] Speaker 3: No, I'm saying he would be picked already. You asked
[1:37:14] Speaker 3: me who I would pick.
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is he would be picked already. Give
[1:37:17] Speaker 2: me a list, Gil. Give me a list. Okay, let's
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: just do this. Make up a list.
[1:37:23] Speaker 5: Let's take away the obvious 25 that would be picked first.
[1:37:27] Speaker 2: Who would be your second pick? Pick. Jason Kidd.
[1:37:30] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:37:32] Speaker 2: Okay, so who would be your third pick?
[1:37:35] Speaker 3: Patrick fucking Ewing.
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: He would be fucking... I'm just throwing names out there.
[1:37:42] Speaker 3: He would probably be gone. Okay, probably. By the third round, yeah. Okay.
[1:37:46] Speaker 2: By the third round, you don't think he'd be.
[1:37:47] Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing would be gone in the first round. Okay.
[1:37:52] Speaker 3: Dwight Howard. Yeah.
[1:37:54] Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dwight. He be gone, too? First, second round.
[1:37:57] Speaker 3: All the fives gone earlier than 25.
[1:38:00] Speaker 2: All the fives going to be gone. All the small
[1:38:02] Speaker 2: fours going to be gone.
[1:38:03] Speaker 5: I'm not going to give Dwight Howard in the third round.
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: I go with John Stockton. You just want me to
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: start just naming guys?
[1:38:10] Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, you got to think about this
[1:38:11] Speaker 5: is the third round, so you're going to pick, what,
[1:38:14] Speaker 5: 60 to 90.
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: Okay. So we're still on the top. 90 guys that's
[1:38:20] Speaker 2: ever played the NBA game.
[1:38:22] Speaker 3: Yep, still in the cross area. You can get James Worthy. Okay,
[1:38:26] Speaker 3: give me James Worthy then. He was the number one pick.
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: in the draft, not a slouch. Absolutely, not a slouch.
[1:38:31] Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about?
[1:38:33] Speaker 3: We know what he played like.
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: But he had Kareem and motherfucking Magic on the team.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: So we don't know what he would have been. We
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: know it would have been more than one. He still
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: was the number one pick, Gil. You can't take it
[1:38:42] Speaker 2: away from him. However you want to try to move
[1:38:43] Speaker 2: the fucking goalpost, he still was the number one pick.
[1:38:45] Speaker 2: But we know what he played like. But he still
[1:38:46] Speaker 2: was the number one pick.
[1:38:47] Speaker 4: Cool.
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: But we know what it was. It still was the
[1:38:50] Speaker 2: number one pick. Both things exist. You can be the
[1:38:53] Speaker 2: number one pick.
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: Both things exist.
[1:38:54] Speaker 2: When you go to a team, they got Magic Johnson
[1:38:57] Speaker 2: already and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. There's nothing wrong with being the
[1:39:01] Speaker 2: fucking third option. At all.
[1:39:02] Speaker 7: You got them two motherfuckers over there. And still be
[1:39:05] Speaker 7: top 75. Still be who you are.
[1:39:07] Speaker 5: Nobody wants to hear a third option be a top
[1:39:11] Speaker 5: 75 player. Who's your fourth pick then in the fourth round?
[1:39:15] Speaker 2: So that's pick... I said I would pick him up.
[1:39:18] Speaker 2: Allen Iverson.
[1:39:19] Speaker 3: There you go.
[1:39:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. You think Allen Iverson would be there at pick 100?
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: If we're going by the attributes that we named, that
[1:39:29] Speaker 2: we lined them up, yes.
[1:39:30] Speaker 3: So how did it go to pick 100?
[1:39:31] Speaker 2: How did you get to pick?
[1:39:32] Speaker 3: You just put numbers.
[1:39:33] Speaker 2: Because now we're at the fourth round.
[1:39:36] Speaker 3: 30? First round.
[1:39:38] Speaker 5: 31 to 60. Yeah.
[1:39:38] Speaker 2: 31 to 60 is second round.
[1:39:40] Speaker 3: I got the same.
[1:39:40] Speaker 2: Third round, fourth round. So are we doing a snake
[1:39:42] Speaker 2: draft or are we doing the same?
[1:39:43] Speaker 7: I thought we were just picking other extra five niggas.
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: Hold on. Watch this. Watch this. Snake draft or are
[1:39:49] Speaker 2: we doing regular order? However you want to do it.
[1:39:51] Speaker 2: So if there's a snake draft, I get the 30th pick,
[1:39:53] Speaker 2: then I get the first pick.
[1:39:54] Speaker 3: 31st pick or the first pick in the second round.
[1:39:58] Speaker 2: Now everything changes.
[1:39:59] Speaker 3: It's ugly at that point. It's ugly when it goes 31.
[1:40:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's way uglier. That's uglier for you.
[1:40:05] Speaker 3: Because now he has a better chance of picking guys
[1:40:08] Speaker 3: who he really wants for his team rather than.
[1:40:10] Speaker 2: Just what's left. Now I get two really, really great
[1:40:15] Speaker 2: basketball players with those two picks. So, then I'm gonna
[1:40:20] Speaker 2: get those same two again, right? I'm gonna get back
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: to back again.
[1:40:23] Speaker 5: You're gonna get 30. You're gonna get 30 and 31.
[1:40:25] Speaker 5: Then I'm gonna get 60. And then you're gonna get.
[1:40:28] Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the last pick.
[1:40:29] Speaker 2: 60. You're gonna get 60.
[1:40:31] Speaker 3: And then, then I gotta wait. 30, 31. I get
[1:40:36] Speaker 3: one pick. Then you're going to wait.
[1:40:37] Speaker 2: You have to wait. Then I get one pick.
[1:40:38] Speaker 5: You're going to miss like 60 picks.
[1:40:40] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:40:41] Speaker 5: Then I get two picks in a row. Then you
[1:40:44] Speaker 5: get 90, 91. So I'll be fine. 30, 31, 90,
[1:40:46] Speaker 5: 91 if my snake draft math is correct.
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: I get one within that. I don't miss 40 picks. Yeah,
[1:40:51] Speaker 2: you do. You go 30 to 31, right?
[1:40:53] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
[1:40:54] Speaker 2: It was similar to how you picked. Yeah. How your
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: pick was. Yeah, when we did picks. So 30, 31,
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: then what is it? That's when we did it here.
[1:41:01] Speaker 2: 60 something? Do you?
[1:41:02] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[1:41:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get a pick then. That's what I'm saying.
[1:41:04] Speaker 5: One.
[1:41:07] Speaker 2: I'm not a snake time expert. I merely hope. I
[1:41:10] Speaker 2: don't miss 60s, 70s, 80s, and then 90s. I don't miss.
[1:41:14] Speaker 3: So you get the first pick in the second round,
[1:41:16] Speaker 3: but then you get the last pick in the third round.
[1:41:19] Speaker 2: It'll be one within like the fifth, so I don't
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: get the pick in the fifth round? No.
[1:41:23] Speaker 5: No, you get the top pick in the fifth round.
[1:41:24] Speaker 5: You get the top pick. That's what I mean. So
[1:41:26] Speaker 5: that's 30 picks.
[1:41:26] Speaker 3: Last pick in the first round, first pick in the
[1:41:28] Speaker 3: second round, last pick in the third round, first pick
[1:41:29] Speaker 3: in the fourth round.
[1:41:30] Speaker 2: Last pick in the third round. So you would miss like,
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: was it... Unless I'm smoking crack. Whatever it is. That's what, 40-something?
[1:41:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever.
[1:41:37] Speaker 2: That's cool. Hey, Scottie Pippen, man. Yeah, because I'm... Yes.
[1:41:42] Speaker 3: I want to go back to something you said, though.
[1:41:43] Speaker 3: You said Scottie Pippen over Kobe Bryant.
[1:41:45] Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. I did. On the first side, right? We
[1:41:51] Speaker 2: lined him up, right?
[1:41:52] Speaker 3: Attribute. Attribute side, yes. He's taller, longer arms, all of... Yes.
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: But then we want to... Then, to Gil's point, he
[1:42:01] Speaker 2: won't be there when I pick No Way, so.
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: We put career in there, right? We looked at the IT,
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: we know what they do. He wouldn't be there when
[1:42:09] Speaker 2: I picked No Way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
[1:42:11] Speaker 2: So attributes, this is what I'm saying. People don't say,
[1:42:13] Speaker 2: I'm saying, fucking Scott is a better basketball player than
[1:42:16] Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. No. Line them up.
[1:42:19] Speaker 3: Attributes.
[1:42:20] Speaker 2: Height, long arms.
[1:42:24] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: Scottie lines up to the guys at NBA. Here's what
[1:42:27] Speaker 2: they measure guys on now.
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: He can jump, long arms, he's tall.
[1:42:33] Speaker 2: Before we see him play basketball, he has a fucking
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: great chance.
[1:42:37] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:42:38] Speaker 2: Before we see him play.
[1:42:39] Speaker 3: Now, once we see him play, he still has an
[1:42:42] Speaker 3: even better chance.
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: He's still 31? Yes. I'm still picking him 30 just
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: to make.
[1:42:46] Speaker 3: You fucking happy. Yeah, that's not making me happy. Yeah,
[1:42:50] Speaker 3: we're talking about this conversation.
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: Me and you happy.
[1:42:52] Speaker 3: Well, us three. Because Josiah's not in it. I'm just
[1:42:55] Speaker 3: merely a host. I got you.
[1:42:56] Speaker 2: So I was going to say, Josiah's merely a host.
[1:42:59] Speaker 3: I want to feel like I'm part of the crew, too.
[1:43:02] Speaker 3: You are, but you stay out of it always. So
[1:43:04] Speaker 3: I'm not going to put you in this. Yeah.
[1:43:08] Speaker 2: I do. Like I said, I put him at 30.
[1:43:15] Speaker 2: And then we go on what we saw him do
[1:43:17] Speaker 2: for their career.
[1:43:19] Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
[1:43:22] Speaker 2: I'm going with a guy that does a lot and
[1:43:25] Speaker 2: not just one thing. So that's what we're putting teams together, right?
[1:43:32] Speaker 2: And we're trying to win. We're trying to compete. You
[1:43:36] Speaker 2: got to see your mind.
[1:43:37] Speaker 3: Is processing working?
[1:43:38] Speaker 5: No, I'm just off the people he had around.
[1:43:43] Speaker 2: Sounds like a very nice.
[1:43:47] Speaker 2: It's a big fish you just caught there.
[1:43:49] Speaker 3: It's a big fish you just caught there.
[1:43:52] Speaker 2: Scottie, Jason Kidd, John Stockton. I'm just throwing names out there, Gil.
[1:43:58] Speaker 2: I get it. You put a list together for real
[1:44:01] Speaker 2: and let me pick? Come on now, you know what
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: I do, bro. All right, well, let's keep this moving.
[1:44:07] Speaker 2: You know what I do, Gilberto.
[1:44:09] Speaker 3: Pippen also spoke on his dissolved relationship with MJ.
[1:44:13] Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
[1:44:14] Speaker 6: Great, great teammate, but we just never were a great friend.
[1:44:21] Speaker 3: Never, even when you guys played?
[1:44:22] Speaker 5: No.
[1:44:22] Speaker 3: When was the last time you and Michael spoke?
[1:44:27] Speaker 2: Right around the pandemic.
[1:44:29] Speaker 3: So it's been a minute since you- Yeah.
[1:44:31] Speaker 11: Is that the text exchange when he shot you a
[1:44:33] Speaker 11: text May of 2020 and he said, hey, Scotty, I
[1:44:36] Speaker 11: heard you're upset.
[1:44:37] Speaker 3: Let me know when you have a minute to speak.
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: Is that the last time you guys spoke?
[1:44:40] Speaker 9: Something like that. Something like that. Did you actually call him?
[1:44:42] Speaker 9: Did you guys talk or did you just text him? No,
[1:44:45] Speaker 9: I think we ended up speaking briefly. Did it end
[1:44:49] Speaker 9: up being good, the conversation?
[1:44:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess.
[1:44:56] Speaker 3: Good and final. That's what it was. Good and final.
[1:45:01] Speaker 6: Good and final. Because of you or because of him?
[1:45:06] Speaker 6: I just, yeah, yeah. I don't want to pick because
[1:45:16] Speaker 6: of who. It's just good and final.
[1:45:23] Speaker 3: Good and final. Nothing wrong with good and final. Any
[1:45:27] Speaker 3: hope of a reconciliation between MJ and Scotty? No, we'd
[1:45:30] Speaker 3: say good and final. You just said good and final.
[1:45:32] Speaker 3: Nothing's ever final.
[1:45:33] Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
[1:45:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
[1:45:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
[1:45:36] Speaker 2: When two grown men make a decision... Leave me alone. No,
[1:45:40] Speaker 2: we appreciate it. We respect one another to stay out
[1:45:43] Speaker 2: of each other. Yeah, that's all it is.
[1:45:45] Speaker 3: Leave me alone.
[1:45:46] Speaker 2: The feeling is mutual, like he said. So I said
[1:45:50] Speaker 2: it on this show before, right? People outside of the
[1:45:55] Speaker 2: NBA and outside of sports, not NBA, but sports. I'm
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: going to take team sports. Think, and with this misconception
[1:46:05] Speaker 2: that because we are teammates... that we are friends. Because
[1:46:11] Speaker 2: they see us there and we're on TV and we're
[1:46:13] Speaker 2: doing this thing together that look good. We look cohesive
[1:46:17] Speaker 2: out here. I high five you. Good job. I speak
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: highly of you in the prayer. They think we are friends.
[1:46:26] Speaker 2: When in all actuality, we sit in cubicles when we're
[1:46:32] Speaker 2: in the locker room. Yep.
[1:46:36] Speaker 5: Yep.
[1:46:37] Speaker 2: Just like you go to your desk job, your office.
[1:46:43] Speaker 2: Y'all have a staff meeting. Y'all come to y'all staff
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: meeting to brainstorm to make this company work. That's our
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: game practices. The game is to perform like what we
[1:46:56] Speaker 2: didn't talk about in the staff meeting. But we're coworkers.
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: Some guys develop friendships.
[1:47:05] Speaker 3: They do.
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: Long lasting, or when they're playing, or forever. Some do,
[1:47:11] Speaker 2: some don't, but the majority of it, during the summer,
[1:47:18] Speaker 2: when I go to Dallas after the last game, most,
[1:47:24] Speaker 2: more than likely, I wasn't seeing any of my teammates
[1:47:28] Speaker 2: until September. Unless we met, unless one of us was
[1:47:33] Speaker 2: in the same, we was in LA, Or we in Miami,
[1:47:36] Speaker 2: we playing other than that.
[1:47:39] Speaker 3: We're not hanging out. They're not coming.
[1:47:40] Speaker 2: Some guys go to birthday kids, birthday parties. They invite
[1:47:43] Speaker 2: them to weddings, bar mitzvahs, whatever they do. Right? They
[1:47:46] Speaker 2: do those things, absolutely. There's some of that going on.
[1:47:49] Speaker 2: But for the most part, when I played, guys went
[1:47:53] Speaker 2: to their hometown where they was from, spent time with
[1:47:56] Speaker 2: their family. They traveled. And when we showed up to
[1:48:00] Speaker 2: work again, that's when we got back. So for him
[1:48:03] Speaker 2: to say we were never... Friends we just he was
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: a good teammate, but we never were friends like it's
[1:48:09] Speaker 2: more of that than the other way What what from
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: my experience is that some teams are closer?
[1:48:16] Speaker 5: Yes, but is that a surprise though like just just like.
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: Knowing personalities now that i know just.
[1:48:22] Speaker 5: Like we watched their success right and it was so
[1:48:28] Speaker 5: amazing right um i'm pretty sure if we all had
[1:48:34] Speaker 5: to bet how many dinners they went to nobody would
[1:48:37] Speaker 5: have picked zero them too Yeah. Shit.
[1:48:42] Speaker 3: Not even a Popeye's?
[1:48:44] Speaker 2: Like, when he said zero, I'm like, wait, what?
[1:48:47] Speaker 5: Like, we know what zero sounds like in the NBA.
[1:48:51] Speaker 7: Like, you and those are enemies. Like, let's go get
[1:48:53] Speaker 7: dinner type shit? Like, me and, like, hey, Scottie, let's
[1:48:56] Speaker 7: go get dinner.
[1:48:57] Speaker 2: Yeah. Never. You ain't got to fuck with nobody like that. No,
[1:49:00] Speaker 2: I mean, you don't, but I'm talking about six championships
[1:49:03] Speaker 2: and all this and the flu game. Like, he just
[1:49:07] Speaker 2: outlined it. So that's the caveat where we would think
[1:49:10] Speaker 2: that it would be. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But
[1:49:12] Speaker 2: if we don't vibe, we don't vibe, right? If we
[1:49:15] Speaker 2: don't have the same interests... we don't have the same interests. Like,
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: it just, we can't force it. I know, but... But
[1:49:22] Speaker 2: it is surprising. We know the success. Okay, now what.
[1:49:27] Speaker 5: If 20 years from now, Golden State Warriors.
[1:49:33] Speaker 5: And then Clay said, yeah, I never once hung out
[1:49:36] Speaker 5: with Steph Curry. I ain't even hung out with Steph
[1:49:38] Speaker 5: like that. We never went to dinner. We never had lunch.
[1:49:40] Speaker 2: We would all be like, wait, what?
[1:49:42] Speaker 3: Splash, brother.
[1:49:43] Speaker 5: It's just something that how you guys looked on the court,
[1:49:47] Speaker 5: I mean, that's the professional.
[1:49:48] Speaker 3: Y'all made it look so.
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: Because y'all tied together, right? You could, but the winning
[1:49:55] Speaker 2: of it, you can say MJ and the Bulls, but
[1:49:56] Speaker 2: you got to MJ, Scottie, and the Bulls, right? You
[1:49:59] Speaker 2: have to go with that one. Same thing with the Warriors.
[1:50:02] Speaker 2: They were the longest staff. You would think that they
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: would have some type of rapport, some type of whatever
[1:50:09] Speaker 2: it is. But if we don't... If we're not... Not
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: a lunch? Not a dinner? I'm, hey. Man, we just won, motherfucker.
[1:50:16] Speaker 2: Let's go to the strip club. Nothing?
[1:50:18] Speaker 3: I'm crazy. Like, that's crazy.
[1:50:20] Speaker 5: Like, that's the one thing, like, I don't care about
[1:50:23] Speaker 5: good teeth.
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: I'm like, not one?
[1:50:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm, I, yeah.
[1:50:25] Speaker 2: I went to one with my enemy.
[1:50:28] Speaker 5: I didn't be sitting there like, wow, this motherfucker.
[1:50:29] Speaker 7: You know how many questions I used to get about
[1:50:31] Speaker 7: that shit with Carolina?
[1:50:32] Speaker 3: Like, yo, you don't keep up with everybody.
[1:50:34] Speaker 2: You don't keep up.
[1:50:35] Speaker 7: I never fuck with dudes. Even when I was there,
[1:50:38] Speaker 7: we won because we out here to.
[1:50:40] Speaker 2: Do a job.
[1:50:41] Speaker 7: Man, let's go out and get this shit done and
[1:50:43] Speaker 7: Y'all go y'all way, I'm going to go mine.
[1:50:45] Speaker 2: But not even.
[1:50:46] Speaker 3: All right, let's keep this thing moving.
[1:50:49] Speaker 2: Go that way. John Stockton and Karl Malone. Yeah, we
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: never hung out. We just came to practice.
[1:50:56] Speaker 3: I never seen him. I don't know what he did.
[1:50:57] Speaker 2: He did his job.
[1:50:58] Speaker 3: I did mine.
[1:51:00] Speaker 5: That's crazy. Yeah, y'all stay over there. I'm going to
[1:51:03] Speaker 5: stay over there. I mean, when I heard that was
[1:51:04] Speaker 5: the only thing, I was like, wait, what? I had
[1:51:06] Speaker 5: to rewind it.
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: Dennis said the same thing.
[1:51:09] Speaker 6: Huh?
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: Dennis said the same thing.
[1:51:10] Speaker 3: That makes sense.
[1:51:11] Speaker 2: That makes sense. Like I said, but- That makes sense.
[1:51:13] Speaker 2: Dennis said, I'm hopping on your shoulders, so why am
[1:51:15] Speaker 2: I jumping when I see y'all? Rhyme exam to my point, right? Lifestyle. Yeah.
[1:51:20] Speaker 3: Interests.
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: We ain't got the same interests. Mike ain't got the
[1:51:25] Speaker 2: same interests as Rhyme. Then Rhyme ain't got the same
[1:51:26] Speaker 2: interests as, right? So it's that.
[1:51:31] Speaker 7: I know a bunch of people, Tigger, that never went
[1:51:33] Speaker 7: to dinner with.
[1:51:33] Speaker 5: Y'all think they went- But imagine them, six championships.
[1:51:39] Speaker 2: Right, they went through the wars together. When he was
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: making the decision to come back, like, you know, sit
[1:51:45] Speaker 2: down with this dude at no point and be like, yo, man,
[1:51:47] Speaker 2: I'm really considering, like, should you meet me here for dinner?
[1:51:52] Speaker 2: He said Mike was a very difficult dude. But there
[1:51:55] Speaker 2: was no... Come on with it.
[1:51:57] Speaker 7: Like, the whole context of the interview, if you watch
[1:52:00] Speaker 7: the whole thing, he deep-dive into, like, why that was.
[1:52:03] Speaker 2: He talked about it. It makes you want to go back.
[1:52:06] Speaker 2: But you probably extended the invitation... And the man gave
[1:52:09] Speaker 2: you his ass to kiss. Oh, 100%. That's the bitterness
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: of it. I asked you to come. Teammate.
[1:52:15] Speaker 3: You Michael Jordan.
[1:52:17] Speaker 2: We are here together, but you still who you are. Hey, bro,
[1:52:19] Speaker 2: let's go get some dinner. Let's go get some dinner, bro.
[1:52:22] Speaker 2: And you gave me your ass to kiss. I got
[1:52:24] Speaker 2: to get out of here, bro.
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: So, Lamar Odom's personality, Gasol's personality was pipping.
[1:52:31] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:52:31] Speaker 2: Like, we good. We don't worry about it.
[1:52:33] Speaker 3: Like, he was the one that probably just.
[1:52:38] Speaker 2: Look the other way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:52:40] Speaker 3: That's why it's coming out now.
[1:52:41] Speaker 7: It's so harsh now because he's like, I look the
[1:52:43] Speaker 7: other way so long.
[1:52:44] Speaker 2: How do you go.
[1:52:45] Speaker 5: We see the little spats during the season.
[1:52:48] Speaker 3: You see the Kobe and Shaq. You see the... Who.
[1:52:53] Speaker 2: Else? MJ known for playing cards and staying up late, smoking,
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: doing that thing. Challenging everybody.
[1:53:00] Speaker 3: Even the Kyrie, LeBron thing.
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: You can see it when the two are at odds.
[1:53:05] Speaker 5: You never seen that, them two. So it was Scottie
[1:53:09] Speaker 5: Pippen who was like.
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: Playing his role.
[1:53:11] Speaker 3: Playing his role.
[1:53:12] Speaker 7: He was literally being number two. Like, yeah, let me
[1:53:14] Speaker 7: go protect this dude, man. Let's keep this thing moving.
[1:53:17] Speaker 7: We're going to shift it over to the NFL. We
[1:53:19] Speaker 7: got some big games coming up this weekend. So we
[1:53:21] Speaker 7: got a special guest joining us in the arena. Played
[1:53:24] Speaker 7: 16 seasons in the NFL with the Panthers and Ravens
[1:53:26] Speaker 7: where he was a five-time Pro Bowl selection at wide receiver.
[1:53:30] Speaker 7: Also co-host of the 89 show on the Underdog Podcast Network.
[1:53:34] Speaker 7: The man who once had to establish the rules and
[1:53:36] Speaker 7: regulations of the game which were 89, bottom line, Steve
[1:53:40] Speaker 7: Smith Sr.
[1:53:41] Speaker 2: Welcome to Gill's Arena.
[1:53:45] Speaker 6: What's up, bro?
[1:53:48] Speaker 3: We got smoke for you and everything over here. We
[1:53:50] Speaker 3: appreciate you pulling up, man. Thank you for taking the
[1:53:52] Speaker 3: time to hop on with us. So, Gill was the
[1:53:54] Speaker 3: only person in the underdog network to pick the commanders
[1:53:57] Speaker 3: over the Lions. Are you giving the commanders a real
[1:53:59] Speaker 3: chance against the Eagles in the NFC Championship game?
[1:54:04] Speaker 4: Well, since y'all didn't have me on damn hold for
[1:54:06] Speaker 4: the last.
[1:54:09] Speaker 12: Eight to ten minutes. I was going to congratulate him,
[1:54:13] Speaker 12: but I don't give a damn now. Good job. He
[1:54:16] Speaker 12: picked the team.
[1:54:17] Speaker 3: Yay.
[1:54:18] Speaker 4: Good job, boy.
[1:54:19] Speaker 2: I'll be for you. What's up, K-1?
[1:54:24] Speaker 4: I'm a little bitter right now, dog. Your producer had
[1:54:28] Speaker 4: me on hold.
[1:54:30] Speaker 2: I'm getting here.
[1:54:30] Speaker 4: I done rushed back, had some meetings. I'm real light-skinned
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: right now.
[1:54:35] Speaker 2: I'm real light-skinned. His name is Steve, Steve. That's Steve's shit.
[1:54:41] Speaker 2: That's Steve's shit. You know Steve's ain't never on time.
[1:54:44] Speaker 4: Y'all gonna ask me to come on and you gonna
[1:54:46] Speaker 4: put me on hold?
[1:54:47] Speaker 12: Y'all talking about two old men arguing? No, I can't
[1:54:53] Speaker 12: play basketball. Don't try to. But look, at the end
[1:54:56] Speaker 12: of the day, it didn't work out. But Pippa doing
[1:54:59] Speaker 12: this tour about how Michael didn't.
[1:55:02] Speaker 3: Did him wrong, man.
[1:55:03] Speaker 4: Get over it, bro. I mean, let it go. Let
[1:55:06] Speaker 4: it go.
[1:55:07] Speaker 5: And it's hard to when your son bangs your ex.
[1:55:10] Speaker 5: It's hard to get over it.
[1:55:12] Speaker 3: Oh, shit, that too. Goddamn, I just thought of him.
[1:55:15] Speaker 2: It's hard to get over it, senior. Come on now.
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: That's tragic.
[1:55:19] Speaker 5: Dude, I forgot all about that part of it.
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: It's hard to sleep late, lay comfortable at night knowing that, hey,
[1:55:29] Speaker 2: I'm tied to this family forever in one way, and
[1:55:32] Speaker 2: then you put this on my plate?
[1:55:35] Speaker 3: Come on, now.
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: I got to answer this shit now? Damn it. Fuck,
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: I got to answer about the goddamn daddy. Now I
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: got to talk about the son, too? Like, come on, man.
[1:55:47] Speaker 2: Both the George's in front of me.
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: That's crazy. Got to stop sometime.
[1:55:50] Speaker 2: Shit.
[1:55:51] Speaker 5: Over a five-second option.
[1:55:55] Speaker 7: Steve, I got a question for you, man. No, I'm
[1:56:02] Speaker 7: with the Eagles this year, man. I'm looking at my
[1:56:06] Speaker 7: receiver and my quarterback combo out there. My star, my
[1:56:10] Speaker 7: two stars not connected, man. I need to know from
[1:56:13] Speaker 7: a receiver standpoint, are Jalen and AJ on the same page?
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: What's going on out there?
[1:56:21] Speaker 4: I think they're on the same page.
[1:56:24] Speaker 12: It's frustrating when you don't get the ball.
[1:56:30] Speaker 4: As a receiver, right?
[1:56:32] Speaker 12: It's kind of like if, you know, basketball now, it's
[1:56:35] Speaker 12: just kind of like you're a shooter, you're wide open,
[1:56:37] Speaker 12: but they just keep, you know, they keep passing it
[1:56:39] Speaker 12: to the center down low and he's getting his points.
[1:56:43] Speaker 12: And so, you know, catching passes, the pass game is
[1:56:47] Speaker 12: a rhythm. And Jalen Hurts can be streaky at times,
[1:56:52] Speaker 12: streaky in a good way and streaky in a bad way. And,
[1:56:56] Speaker 12: you know, receivers, we know if we don't get an
[1:56:58] Speaker 12: opportunity to show the defense, the opposing team, the opposing
[1:57:02] Speaker 12: next couple of games, whether it's the Super Bowl, the
[1:57:05] Speaker 12: NFC Championship game, if we don't get to show a
[1:57:08] Speaker 12: team that they need to fear the passing game, that
[1:57:12] Speaker 12: does hurt the game plan for the offense because you're
[1:57:16] Speaker 12: not really sure what to go to. And that can
[1:57:19] Speaker 12: be problematic. That can be frustrating. And then also to
[1:57:22] Speaker 12: a wide receiver, you're sitting there on that island. You
[1:57:25] Speaker 12: start daydreaming. You start thinking. You start assuming. You start
[1:57:29] Speaker 12: obsessing about why things aren't there, why people aren't passing
[1:57:34] Speaker 12: me the ball.
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: So then you start to just build up a little
[1:57:37] Speaker 4: bit of animosity. You get mad at the coach. You
[1:57:39] Speaker 4: get mad at the offensive coordinator.
[1:57:41] Speaker 12: Then you guys know nothing perturbs a specialist more.
[1:57:48] Speaker 4: Is all the practice we do, all the meetings we have,
[1:57:51] Speaker 4: and then.
[1:57:52] Speaker 12: We get in the game, and you running the plays
[1:57:57] Speaker 12: not to me, but you have me practice.
[1:57:59] Speaker 4: And so then you just.
[1:58:00] Speaker 12: Start to get there, and you start to get hot.
[1:58:03] Speaker 4: You start steaming.
[1:58:04] Speaker 12: It's like, man, they made me run this route, they
[1:58:06] Speaker 12: made me run that route, and they're not giving.
[1:58:07] Speaker 4: Me the football. And then all of a sudden, you
[1:58:11] Speaker 4: haven't given me the football in three quarters.
[1:58:14] Speaker 12: Now all of a sudden, you want me to be
[1:58:16] Speaker 12: Moses and part the Red Sea when I haven't done
[1:58:18] Speaker 12: anything for three quarters. And all of a sudden, you
[1:58:21] Speaker 12: want me to run a go. You haven't given me
[1:58:22] Speaker 12: a hit. You want me to run a slant and go.
[1:58:24] Speaker 12: You haven't given me a slant. So that's where things
[1:58:26] Speaker 12: can get a little fuzzy and things start to get up.
[1:58:30] Speaker 4: A little unique and interesting.
[1:58:31] Speaker 7: Well, let's, let's talk about the quarterback receiver relationship. How
[1:58:39] Speaker 7: can it be perceived when your receiver is reading a
[1:58:43] Speaker 7: book on the sideline in a game because he's not
[1:58:49] Speaker 7: getting a ball? Like, how do you take that as
[1:58:52] Speaker 7: a As a not only as a teammate, but as
[1:58:54] Speaker 7: a quarterback, this, you know, is the hardest position in
[1:58:58] Speaker 7: football because you have to delegate to so many different personalities.
[1:59:02] Speaker 7: And you got your star guy reading a book on
[1:59:04] Speaker 7: the sideline.
[1:59:05] Speaker 2: Like, how do you take that?
[1:59:08] Speaker 4: So I would. keep my helmet on and listen to music.
[1:59:12] Speaker 12: Sometimes when you're not in the game or you're not
[1:59:15] Speaker 12: in that groove.
[1:59:15] Speaker 4: You got to be ready and prepared.
[1:59:17] Speaker 12: And so if you're telling me reading a book is
[1:59:19] Speaker 12: making somebody feel some type of way, at the end
[1:59:21] Speaker 12: of the day, this is a business and we're independent
[1:59:23] Speaker 12: contractors that can only work in those 32 cities. And
[1:59:28] Speaker 12: how I get prepared during a game, if it's not
[1:59:31] Speaker 12: detrimental to the team, why does it matter what I'm doing?
[1:59:36] Speaker 12: If I'm on the sideline and I'm reading a book
[1:59:38] Speaker 12: or I'm doing this, I'm not distracting.
[1:59:42] Speaker 4: I'm reading a book. He's not reading a comic book.
[1:59:45] Speaker 3: But Steve, if you playing with him and you producing
[1:59:50] Speaker 3: and he not and he reading a book, you not
[1:59:51] Speaker 3: feeling some type of way?
[1:59:54] Speaker 4: No, because I also know why he's not producing.
[1:59:56] Speaker 2: Why is he not producing?
[1:59:59] Speaker 4: He can't throw the ball to himself, can he?
[2:00:02] Speaker 2: There you go. I got a question. I was listening
[2:00:07] Speaker 2: to Keyshawn.
[2:00:08] Speaker 4: Their passing game hasn't been great anyway.
[2:00:11] Speaker 5: Right.
[2:00:11] Speaker 12: So it's not like him reading this book is doing
[2:00:16] Speaker 12: something to someone else. I mean, at the end of
[2:00:17] Speaker 12: the day, he's trying to stay within himself and not
[2:00:24] Speaker 12: go outside of himself because the fact that he's reading
[2:00:27] Speaker 12: the book is a problem.
[2:00:28] Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
[2:00:29] Speaker 12: We also, how many times have we heard fans talk
[2:00:31] Speaker 12: about he's ignorant and he can't read? So now you're
[2:00:34] Speaker 12: mad because he can't read. So you got to pick
[2:00:36] Speaker 12: and choose which one you want.
[2:00:39] Speaker 4: Do you want the angry black man or do you
[2:00:41] Speaker 4: want the black man.
[2:00:42] Speaker 12: That's sitting there trying to get his in, that's trying
[2:00:44] Speaker 12: to get himself locked in so he can do his job?
[2:00:47] Speaker 4: So you got to pick one or the other.
[2:00:49] Speaker 5: So I was listening to, was it Keyshawn Johnson? And
[2:00:53] Speaker 5: he said something about that he never played with the
[2:00:57] Speaker 5: same He never finished with the same quarterback he started with.
[2:01:04] Speaker 5: And he had, was it, 11 different quarterbacks in, what,
[2:01:07] Speaker 5: 12 years? So, how can, how do you determine who
[2:01:14] Speaker 5: is a great receiver if the guy who's throwing the
[2:01:18] Speaker 5: ball is not that good? Like, how do you determine, like,
[2:01:22] Speaker 5: in your, like, who's, like, who is a top five receiver.
[2:01:26] Speaker 3: When it all depends on Someone else.
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: That's a great question.
[2:01:33] Speaker 12: It also has to do with you go watch him
[2:01:35] Speaker 12: film and know there's sometimes you'll see a receiver get
[2:01:40] Speaker 12: open and the ball is tipped. So does that mean
[2:01:44] Speaker 12: that the receiver can't get open because he didn't catch
[2:01:46] Speaker 12: that pass?
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: No, that just means that the ball was tipped.
[2:01:49] Speaker 12: He's still like I when I played, I used to
[2:01:52] Speaker 12: say I would get frustrated if I ran a great
[2:01:55] Speaker 12: route and I didn't.
[2:01:56] Speaker 4: Get the ball. I would say they say great route.
[2:01:58] Speaker 4: I was like, no, that's not a great route.
[2:01:59] Speaker 12: I just killing grass because it's only a good route.
[2:02:04] Speaker 12: If you have the ball in your hand and the
[2:02:06] Speaker 12: dudes that the same guys that go in footlocker.
[2:02:09] Speaker 4: That's on the football field. They can get your Jays.
[2:02:11] Speaker 4: They're going to tell us the first down, right?
[2:02:13] Speaker 12: They're going to put the ball down to where you
[2:02:16] Speaker 12: have gotten tackled where you received that pass. So you
[2:02:21] Speaker 12: could be a good receiver and have a bad quarterback.
[2:02:26] Speaker 12: You also can be a hell of a quarterback. and
[2:02:30] Speaker 12: have some poor receivers as well. So it goes hand-in-hand.
[2:02:34] Speaker 12: It's not like it's just one way.
[2:02:36] Speaker 4: It goes both.
[2:02:37] Speaker 12: Now, in the case of Cincinnati Bengals or the Philadelphia Eagles, A.J.
[2:02:43] Speaker 12: Brown is a beast. The slim reaper, Devontae Smith, he's
[2:02:47] Speaker 12: a dog. Dallas got her. He can play too. But also,
[2:02:51] Speaker 12: Saquon Barkley is moving that football left and right with
[2:02:54] Speaker 12: the run game.
[2:02:55] Speaker 4: I mean, he had, what, Jalen Hurst.
[2:02:57] Speaker 2: Had 128 yards.
[2:02:59] Speaker 12: It's not he had 128 yards because the Los Angeles
[2:03:01] Speaker 12: Rams aren't very good. Their D-line was really good, so
[2:03:05] Speaker 12: they had to find other ways to get the ball
[2:03:10] Speaker 12: into the end zone, move the ball up and down
[2:03:12] Speaker 12: the field, and that's what they did. At the end
[2:03:14] Speaker 12: of the day, it's not about a sloppy win or
[2:03:18] Speaker 12: a sloppy loss.
[2:03:19] Speaker 4: It's just about the win. That's what it's really about.
[2:03:23] Speaker 12: It's hard to say that as a player because you
[2:03:27] Speaker 12: want to be part of you want to be on
[2:03:29] Speaker 12: that stat line. You want to have the 100 yards
[2:03:31] Speaker 12: because they keep playoff stats.
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: You want to have this. You want to have that.
[2:03:35] Speaker 12: It all is calculated and kept up because when you
[2:03:39] Speaker 12: come to the Hall of Fame, when you come to
[2:03:41] Speaker 12: other things, the average fan is going to Google you
[2:03:45] Speaker 12: on your stats. They're not going to talk about, well,
[2:03:51] Speaker 12: he was on the championship team.
[2:03:52] Speaker 4: I know there's some.
[2:03:53] Speaker 12: Guys I play football with on teams that They won
[2:03:56] Speaker 12: two or three different Super Bowls with two or three
[2:04:00] Speaker 12: different teams.
[2:04:01] Speaker 4: But if I look up how many catches.
[2:04:04] Speaker 12: They had or what they actually did on that team,
[2:04:08] Speaker 12: I can't take away that they're a Super Bowl champ.
[2:04:11] Speaker 4: But if you're a Super Bowl champ.
[2:04:12] Speaker 12: And you never sniff the field, then player to player,
[2:04:17] Speaker 12: that's a little bit different.
[2:04:20] Speaker 4: That's like a quality control guy on a team that.
[2:04:25] Speaker 12: Tells a 10-year vet, well, I got a Super Bowl,
[2:04:28] Speaker 12: and you look up, that dude was just Xerox.
[2:04:30] Speaker 4: Copying or faxing or copying papers.
[2:04:35] Speaker 2: Or holding a card up.
[2:04:36] Speaker 4: For something because he's a Super Bowl.
[2:04:39] Speaker 3: Where the fuck is Nick at?
[2:04:40] Speaker 2: She stopped.
[2:04:41] Speaker 3: This is Nick.
[2:04:43] Speaker 5: Man, just a Xerox copy dude at the end of
[2:04:45] Speaker 5: the bench giving water out.
[2:04:46] Speaker 2: That's what I told y'all, man.
[2:04:48] Speaker 3: So his champion's experience don't count.
[2:04:54] Speaker 4: I'm just saying when it's, it counts because you got
[2:04:57] Speaker 4: the ring.
[2:04:57] Speaker 12: I'm just saying when you're debating and talking about and
[2:05:02] Speaker 12: exchanging war wounds, you know, and I fractured my forearm
[2:05:07] Speaker 12: twice and you got a.
[2:05:09] Speaker 4: Paper cut, that's different. You know, that's significantly different.
[2:05:14] Speaker 2: It's locker room talk versus other people talk, right? What
[2:05:18] Speaker 2: players will say versus other people will say. No, so
[2:05:22] Speaker 2: first and foremost, man, I appreciate your honesty, man. What
[2:05:24] Speaker 2: you bring to the space, man, from you being on
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: NFL Network, you're always keeping it a bean with these dudes, man.
[2:05:30] Speaker 2: And a lot of dudes have gotten their feelings over
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: time because you're not going to sugarcoat it. You're going
[2:05:35] Speaker 2: to tell them what you see, right? Because you did it, right?
[2:05:38] Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. But on a more positive note,
[2:05:47] Speaker 2: I'm saying my Cincinnati Bearcat brother, I'm saying Travis Kills,
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: I'm saying we know like, I'm saying the season stat-wise
[2:05:53] Speaker 2: wasn't what we knew it to be or could be.
[2:05:58] Speaker 2: But last week had a hell of a game, right?
[2:06:01] Speaker 2: You see the same type of thing this week? You
[2:06:05] Speaker 2: think they're going to do something to double-team him?
[2:06:09] Speaker 4: They're going to do something to double-team him.
[2:06:10] Speaker 2: They have to.
[2:06:12] Speaker 4: You know, Travis is.
[2:06:15] Speaker 4: I mean, he's not as fast as he used to be.
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: You know how it is when you get out there
[2:06:18] Speaker 4: and age. But what he has, he has that savviness.
[2:06:22] Speaker 12: He understands how and what he's been practicing for a
[2:06:26] Speaker 12: very long time with Patrick Mahomes. But one of the
[2:06:29] Speaker 12: things that people don't really realize is Andy Reid. is
[2:06:34] Speaker 12: so damn smart, and he knows how to get people open,
[2:06:39] Speaker 12: and he utilizes everyone. Andy Reid has a plan. That's
[2:06:43] Speaker 12: what distinguishes Andy Reid from a lot of the other
[2:06:47] Speaker 12: people is he always has... a group.
[2:06:50] Speaker 4: Sean McVay is like that.
[2:06:52] Speaker 2: Sean Payton.
[2:06:53] Speaker 12: There's a number of guys, now Ben Johnson, where they
[2:06:57] Speaker 12: have a group of people. They say, okay, I want
[2:06:59] Speaker 12: a fast guy. I want the crafty guy. I want
[2:07:03] Speaker 12: the slot guy. I want the tall guy. I want
[2:07:05] Speaker 12: the short guy. They understand and they have specialists. And
[2:07:11] Speaker 12: they plug and play their specialists. The teams who get
[2:07:14] Speaker 12: themselves in trouble are the ones who worry about their
[2:07:17] Speaker 12: system and don't adapt their system to the players and
[2:07:22] Speaker 12: their skill level and their skill set.
[2:07:26] Speaker 4: And that's the thing that always.
[2:07:29] Speaker 12: Gets me is there's 32 teams, but not all 32
[2:07:33] Speaker 12: coaches or offensive coordinators understand how to utilize all of
[2:07:38] Speaker 12: their people.
[2:07:38] Speaker 4: And so it's just fun to watch.
[2:07:41] Speaker 12: Sometimes not every team is structured with the same intelligence
[2:07:47] Speaker 12: and wherewithal.
[2:07:49] Speaker 4: That some of the other teams are.
[2:07:51] Speaker 2: Speaking of intelligence, and we're going to let you get
[2:07:53] Speaker 2: out of it, but let me just piggyback on that.
[2:07:55] Speaker 2: Do you think the fact that once Travis Kelsey played quarterback,
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: plays a factor and he knows what the look for, like,
[2:08:04] Speaker 2: if he was playing quarterback, this is what I would
[2:08:07] Speaker 2: want my guy to do, right? This is the area
[2:08:09] Speaker 2: that I would want him to go to. Do you
[2:08:11] Speaker 2: think that plays a small factor, like, just as far
[2:08:13] Speaker 2: as the intelligence that he played quarterback at Cincinnati and
[2:08:15] Speaker 2: he was forced to change his position?
[2:08:20] Speaker 4: I would say this is Travis was on the couch.
[2:08:23] Speaker 4: I mean, no.
[2:08:24] Speaker 12: Because if it was, if it did benefit him, his
[2:08:27] Speaker 12: ass would be playing quarterback.
[2:08:28] Speaker 2: No, he had to turn up. No, I'm saying the
[2:08:30] Speaker 2: coach told him he already got his quarterback. If you
[2:08:32] Speaker 2: want to get back on his team, then you got
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: to pick a different position.
[2:08:36] Speaker 4: That's code for move on.
[2:08:38] Speaker 12: So, no, I don't think that playing quarterback, especially with
[2:08:42] Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is a different dude. Joe Burrow
[2:08:45] Speaker 12: is a different dude. Lamar Jackson.
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: Not at this level, but... Nah, man. Just period overall.
[2:08:52] Speaker 2: I got you.
[2:08:53] Speaker 4: Don't take this to the fence.
[2:08:54] Speaker 12: Who is Cincinnati playing in college football that you would
[2:08:58] Speaker 12: say that that can help translate them to the NFL?
[2:09:00] Speaker 2: Oh, you're right.
[2:09:00] Speaker 3: No, they weren't playing nobody.
[2:09:02] Speaker 2: Oh, no, no.
[2:09:02] Speaker 3: You're absolutely correct. Trust me. Hey, I spent.
[2:09:06] Speaker 2: My 22nd birthday in Boise, Idaho because they wanted to
[2:09:09] Speaker 2: go to the fucking humanitarian bowl my junior year, so
[2:09:13] Speaker 2: trust me. Motherfucker had six wins, and we had, yeah. So,
[2:09:16] Speaker 2: trust me, I get it.
[2:09:17] Speaker 4: You played a quarterback against Boise back then. That's a sign.
[2:09:22] Speaker 3: I'm with you, brother. I'm with you.
[2:09:24] Speaker 2: I'm just, so, I got.
[2:09:27] Speaker 3: You. Steve, we appreciate you taking time out of your schedule.
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: To pull up to the show.
[2:09:35] Speaker 3: Everybody, make sure y'all check out 89 on YouTube, wherever
[2:09:38] Speaker 3: you get your podcasts.
[2:09:39] Speaker 5: 89.
[2:09:39] Speaker 2: 89, bottom line. Put it in the chat.
[2:09:43] Speaker 3: Put the link in the chat.
[2:09:45] Speaker 2: We got you.
[2:09:45] Speaker 3: Thank you, man, for taking the time.
[2:09:48] Speaker 4: Are you picking the commanders this week, Gil?
[2:09:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. Commanders.
[2:09:54] Speaker 4: Good luck with that one.
[2:09:55] Speaker 5: This is the only teams I know.
[2:09:59] Speaker 3: Chiefs or Bills?
[2:10:00] Speaker 2: Huh? Chiefs or Bills?
[2:10:03] Speaker 3: I don't like none of them.
[2:10:04] Speaker 2: I had Baltimore.
[2:10:06] Speaker 3: I had L.A.
[2:10:07] Speaker 2: I had all the places I was.
[2:10:08] Speaker 3: And guess who won?
[2:10:10] Speaker 4: That's the reason.
[2:10:13] Speaker 5: It's not like I knew what I was doing.
[2:10:16] Speaker 2: I knew what I was doing.
[2:10:20] Speaker 5: I had Commanders because of D.C. Baltimore was close, so
[2:10:23] Speaker 5: I got them too. And then Rams, I'm here. I
[2:10:26] Speaker 5: knew what I was doing. Eagles and Chiefs.
[2:10:30] Speaker 2: Like I said. Steve, who you got in the Super
[2:10:32] Speaker 2: Bowl real quick before we let you go?
[2:10:36] Speaker 12: No, every time I pick, if I pick the wrong one,
[2:10:38] Speaker 12: people come at me in the mentions, so I don't care.
[2:10:41] Speaker 4: I'm not playing, so I'm happy to be there and
[2:10:43] Speaker 4: happy to watch.
[2:10:44] Speaker 3: Oh, you scared?
[2:10:45] Speaker 2: Say you're scared, man.
[2:10:46] Speaker 3: You scared?
[2:10:46] Speaker 2: Say you're scared, man.
[2:10:49] Speaker 4: I'm not scared, I'm just trying to keep myself.
[2:10:52] Speaker 2: Out of jet, you know? See, because, see, he play
[2:10:56] Speaker 2: football like I play basketball.
[2:10:58] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:10:59] Speaker 2: Like, that's, like, that's... Yeah, we think that, so.
[2:11:03] Speaker 3: No, yeah.
[2:11:04] Speaker 2: That's why I keep a lot of opinions and don't
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: say certain things. That's why I don't say certain things
[2:11:08] Speaker 2: about certain people on here, because he not gonna turn
[2:11:11] Speaker 2: the other cheek. He not a turn-the-other-cheek kind of a guy, so.
[2:11:17] Speaker 3: Next time you're in L.A., we need you to pull
[2:11:19] Speaker 3: up to the arena. But appreciate you, Steve, for taking
[2:11:22] Speaker 3: the time, my man. Thank you for coming on the show.
[2:11:24] Speaker 2: Steve Smith Sr.
[2:11:26] Speaker 3: Make sure y'all check out that 89 show on YouTube. Yeah,
[2:11:30] Speaker 3: I'm sharing it right now on the link. I think
[2:11:34] Speaker 3: it might be my favorite receiver of all time. It should.
[2:11:36] Speaker 2: He's funny as hell.
[2:11:37] Speaker 3: Get it done. Pound for pound. I used to work
[2:11:40] Speaker 3: at the NFL back in the day. I would just
[2:11:42] Speaker 3: go watch the clips of him mic'd up, all the
[2:11:44] Speaker 3: shit he would say that was embargoed, that wouldn't make
[2:11:46] Speaker 3: it to the TV screen.
[2:11:48] Speaker 7: I was going to ask him where he ranked himself
[2:11:50] Speaker 7: in the top ten.
[2:11:51] Speaker 2: We're going to get him on the couch.
[2:11:52] Speaker 5: What's so funny, the whole time, like growing up, I
[2:11:55] Speaker 5: thought it was the Steve Smith from Tide.
[2:11:58] Speaker 2: That made it to the NFL. Different Steve Smith. Went
[2:12:00] Speaker 2: to uni. That was the Charlotte one. No, that was, yeah.
[2:12:05] Speaker 2: Panthers and the Ravens. See, I'm over there cheering for him,
[2:12:08] Speaker 2: thinking it was the one from the Valley. Hey, what
[2:12:10] Speaker 2: ain't out there, boy?
[2:12:13] Speaker 3: Different things, man. I don't know the other one, then.
[2:12:17] Speaker 2: Went to SMC.
[2:12:18] Speaker 3: I think played with Chad Ochoacinco at SMC before going
[2:12:21] Speaker 3: on to Utah and then having a very, very successful
[2:12:23] Speaker 3: career in the NFL.
[2:12:25] Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Steve. We're pulling up.
[2:12:26] Speaker 3: All right, we got one more thing we got to
[2:12:28] Speaker 3: discuss before we get to Mosey fans.
[2:12:29] Speaker 5: I was a fan on accident. I was a fan
[2:12:31] Speaker 5: because I thought he was one of.
[2:12:32] Speaker 3: The Valley kids.
[2:12:33] Speaker 2: 89, bottom line.
[2:12:34] Speaker 7: That was the other Steve Smith.
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: That was another Steve Smith. And you was asked about
[2:12:38] Speaker 2: the quarterback shit, like, and all honestly. He had some
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: horse shit quarterbacks for a couple of his career, a
[2:12:44] Speaker 2: couple of them years.
[2:12:47] Speaker 3: Hey, that's why I asked him the question. That's why
[2:12:50] Speaker 3: I asked him the question.
[2:12:51] Speaker 2: Because they went, though. He went with Jake. They went
[2:12:54] Speaker 2: there with Jake. That's why I asked him the question. Like, yo,
[2:13:01] Speaker 2: it's important the quarterback be on the same page because
[2:13:03] Speaker 2: if I see you as a quarterback over there reading
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: a book, what if it's a good book? I mean
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: the book is you sorry. Yeah, but you ain't going
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: to get the ball no more. You ain't going to
[2:13:12] Speaker 2: get it. That ain't going to make me want to
[2:13:13] Speaker 2: give you the ball. You can't even throw that far anymore.
[2:13:17] Speaker 2: You ain't got no girls in that book. You ain't
[2:13:19] Speaker 2: got no girls in that book.
[2:13:20] Speaker 3: I'm good.
[2:13:20] Speaker 2: I ain't give you the ball.
[2:13:21] Speaker 3: That was a noob?
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: Oh, that was a noob.
[2:13:23] Speaker 3: You want the angry black man or the locked in
[2:13:25] Speaker 3: book reading?
[2:13:26] Speaker 2: My fuck over here like, shit, they got me running
[2:13:28] Speaker 2: 50-yard routes. He can only throw 20.
[2:13:29] Speaker 3: This is crazy.
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: That part crazy.
[2:13:32] Speaker 3: Running them routes and you three quarters running routes not
[2:13:35] Speaker 3: seeing the ball?
[2:13:36] Speaker 2: Yeah. This motherfucker crazy got me out there running the ball.
[2:13:38] Speaker 7: That's like running down the court for a whole quarter
[2:13:40] Speaker 7: not seeing the.
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: You're the number one receiver and they script the first
[2:13:44] Speaker 2: 15 plays, right?
[2:13:46] Speaker 3: They know the first 15 plays they're going to get.
[2:13:47] Speaker 7: That's like you being in and you don't get the
[2:13:50] Speaker 7: ball the first quarter. They icing you out. Nick Nim
[2:13:52] Speaker 7: was like, nah, we're not passing the Gilbert. We're not
[2:13:54] Speaker 7: passing the Gilbert. Yo, there's timeouts.
[2:13:56] Speaker 2: You got the first two plays of the game. They
[2:13:58] Speaker 2: drop the first two plays of the game, right?
[2:14:00] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:14:00] Speaker 2: They don't include you. At all. Right?
[2:14:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:14:03] Speaker 2: There's a timeout.
[2:14:05] Speaker 3: Talk about the next two plays.
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: It's dead ball, ATO. And you don't get it. You
[2:14:12] Speaker 2: don't get it. You will break the play if you
[2:14:14] Speaker 2: can get it. You'll be like, I'm gone. Opportunity to
[2:14:16] Speaker 2: present itself, you're going, but in they case, never. You
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: got to go run the rap, right? So you can't
[2:14:24] Speaker 2: not do it. Yes.
[2:14:26] Speaker 3: The Quran.
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: And you cannot, like... Do it hard. You can't do
[2:14:29] Speaker 2: it at your full speed. You gotta do it. And
[2:14:31] Speaker 2: if you're supposed to block on this play, you cannot...
[2:14:34] Speaker 2: You have to do it. You'll get your fucking teammate
[2:14:37] Speaker 2: killed if you don't.
[2:14:39] Speaker 3: So now your teammate.
[2:14:40] Speaker 2: Because it ain't about the coaches no more. This is
[2:14:43] Speaker 2: about these guys who I'm out here with.
[2:14:44] Speaker 5: So now you really got to keep going fucking hard
[2:14:47] Speaker 5: every play. You got to run this bitch around every time.
[2:14:49] Speaker 3: Every time. Like you a decoy. You could potentially be
[2:14:52] Speaker 3: a decoy every play as a star player.
[2:14:53] Speaker 2: Like you about to get this motherfucker every time.
[2:14:56] Speaker 3: They did that to Carambola.
[2:14:58] Speaker 7: They said, we ain't passing this motherfucker the ball.
[2:15:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, see? So it just.
[2:15:04] Speaker 5: For like seven minutes, he didn't even get to swing.
[2:15:07] Speaker 3: Nothing. That's A.J. Brown.
[2:15:10] Speaker 2: He over there like, man, let me read this book.
[2:15:13] Speaker 2: Ask me to.
[2:15:15] Speaker 3: Ball like I'm 21.
[2:15:16] Speaker 2: Laughing like a motherfucker.
[2:15:18] Speaker 5: They just, they, he was trying to give the offense
[2:15:21] Speaker 5: a rebound. They tipping in front of him like, this
[2:15:25] Speaker 5: team ain't shit.
[2:15:26] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep moving.
[2:15:28] Speaker 3: We got one last thing we got to talk about
[2:15:30] Speaker 3: before we get to mostly fans. Before the Clippers-Bulls game yesterday,
[2:15:34] Speaker 3: Norm Powell addressed the crowd. His attempt to pay respect
[2:15:37] Speaker 3: to MLK left many wondering, Martin Luther who? Let's take
[2:15:41] Speaker 3: a listen. Okay.
[2:15:42] Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody.
[2:15:43] Speaker 3: For coming out and celebrating the life of Martin Luther King.
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: He was a great man. No, he said C. He
[2:15:51] Speaker 2: said C. He said King. He didn't say King. There
[2:15:55] Speaker 2: was no King there. Where he from? San Diego, I believe.
[2:15:59] Speaker 3: Ooh. Martin Luther King.
[2:16:01] Speaker 2: You can't even blame it on the South accent, huh?
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: I ain't have enough time to make the T-shirt either.
[2:16:07] Speaker 3: The Martin Luther Kring?
[2:16:09] Speaker 7: Martin Luther Kring, I ain't have enough.
[2:16:17] Speaker 2: Martin had a Kring? What's wrong with this world, man?
[2:16:23] Speaker 3: Shout-out Norm Powell, though. But can we watch it one
[2:16:25] Speaker 3: more time?
[2:16:25] Speaker 5: Yes, please.
[2:16:26] Speaker 2: Because you got to be careful who you get that
[2:16:28] Speaker 2: mic to.
[2:16:28] Speaker 3: I want to thank everybody for coming out and celebrating
[2:16:30] Speaker 3: the life of Martin Luther King. He was a great man.
[2:16:33] Speaker 2: He was a great man. That's confidence. No, because you
[2:16:36] Speaker 2: don't expect him to do that.
[2:16:38] Speaker 5: There's other players on the team that you'd be like, that's.
[2:16:40] Speaker 2: Something he'd do. Yeah, he was trying to get ready
[2:16:45] Speaker 2: to go hoop. He went to UCLA and everything.
[2:16:47] Speaker 3: He didn't feel like he fucked up.
[2:16:48] Speaker 5: He didn't spend five years in high school.
[2:16:50] Speaker 3: He didn't feel like he fucked up.
[2:16:51] Speaker 5: Six years in college with the Juco College.
[2:16:53] Speaker 2: You see, he flowed right with it. He was UCLA.
[2:16:55] Speaker 2: He didn't miss a beat.
[2:16:56] Speaker 3: He said, yeah.
[2:16:57] Speaker 7: Great education, kids. Martin Luther King. Boy, he had a
[2:17:00] Speaker 7: good dream.
[2:17:01] Speaker 2: What was he thinking about? Coffee, coffee. What white girl
[2:17:05] Speaker 2: did he see walk past?
[2:17:09] Speaker 3: Ooh! Damn Martin Luther King.
[2:17:14] Speaker 2: It ain't nobody, Coretta. That ain't nobody. It ain't nobody. Lil' Cream. Lil' Cream. Lil'
[2:17:19] Speaker 2: Cream in my coffee. Lil' Cream in my coffee. That's all.
[2:17:23] Speaker 3: That shit was yesterday, though.
[2:17:26] Speaker 2: Don't shoot. Black history, man.
[2:17:29] Speaker 3: I got this.
[2:17:31] Speaker 2: White just went, ooh, Cream.
[2:17:32] Speaker 3: Martin Luther King.
[2:17:35] Speaker 2: Ah, hopefully they didn't hear that.
[2:17:36] Speaker 1: They heard it.
[2:17:37] Speaker 3: We heard it.
[2:17:38] Speaker 2: Probably not a good look. Give me some cream out there.
[2:17:40] Speaker 2: The team that celebrated.
[2:17:41] Speaker 3: Black History Month in March.
[2:17:44] Speaker 2: They're tripping, huh? So, shout out, North Power.
[2:17:48] Speaker 3: You know we love, respect you, we rock with you. Obviously,
[2:17:49] Speaker 3: we happen in life, but have you guys ever had
[2:17:51] Speaker 3: a public speaking blunder like that? Yo, just yesterday, you
[2:17:56] Speaker 3: said calorie sap. Oh, yeah. I fuck up all the time.
[2:18:02] Speaker 3: Shout out, Hussein Bolt. Yeah. I stutter, so hell yeah.
[2:18:09] Speaker 2: We did not notice.
[2:18:10] Speaker 3: Shit.
[2:18:11] Speaker 2: Even if we did, we keep it to ourselves.
[2:18:13] Speaker 3: Public?
[2:18:13] Speaker 2: Like, public? You can't tease me. You get punched in
[2:18:16] Speaker 2: the face.
[2:18:17] Speaker 3: That was a conclusion that I think a lot of
[2:18:19] Speaker 3: us here on the crew could.
[2:18:20] Speaker 2: You tease me for stuttering. That shit's still sensitive, so
[2:18:23] Speaker 2: I don't... That don't go nowhere.
[2:18:25] Speaker 3: Who you are.
[2:18:27] Speaker 2: You tease somebody else for stuttering, I take up for them.
[2:18:29] Speaker 3: Public?
[2:18:30] Speaker 2: Oh, you see somebody else? Oh, you pick on somebody
[2:18:33] Speaker 2: that stutter, I'm going to say something. Absolutely. 1,000%.
[2:18:37] Speaker 3: 1,000%.
[2:18:38] Speaker 2: Thousand percent. So you beat motherfuckers up for the Dutter
[2:18:41] Speaker 2: Man shit? Like, that was a movie. That's still.
[2:18:45] Speaker 3: We would pick on motherfuckers about the Dutter Man.
[2:18:47] Speaker 2: Eddie was.
[2:18:48] Speaker 3: That's comedy. No, the Dutter Man in New Jack City.
[2:18:50] Speaker 5: What?
[2:18:50] Speaker 3: That's comedy. No, no, the Dutter Man with the iPhone.
[2:18:57] Speaker 2: Gon' be some... which. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:19:02] Speaker 3: It's a move.
[2:19:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. But no, no, if that was a nigga
[2:19:05] Speaker 2: that stuttered, we were like, man, come on, man, get
[2:19:07] Speaker 2: the dutter man, dutter man, come on, man. He probably
[2:19:09] Speaker 2: stuttered in real life. Might have. I don't know. But, no,
[2:19:13] Speaker 2: if you to tease somebody I'm around that stutter, yeah,
[2:19:15] Speaker 2: I'm going to say something. No, messing up words and speaking. Yeah,
[2:19:19] Speaker 2: you been in front of a camera and microphone enough,
[2:19:21] Speaker 2: you gon' fuck up. What was mine yesterday? I was dyslexic.
[2:19:24] Speaker 2: I just calorie sapped. You definitely was dyslexic.
[2:19:27] Speaker 3: Calorie sapped? You said it twice, too. No, he said it, too. No,
[2:19:31] Speaker 3: he was teasing it. I thought you said it right
[2:19:33] Speaker 3: after he said it.
[2:19:34] Speaker 2: He was teasing me twice. I was watching it real time.
[2:19:37] Speaker 2: I heard it. You teased me? I thought I heard
[2:19:39] Speaker 2: Josiah say it. You dumbed down because.
[2:19:40] Speaker 3: You said it and said it right back.
[2:19:43] Speaker 2: Josiah was like, calorie sapped.
[2:19:46] Speaker 3: This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Whoop Whoop. I
[2:19:48] Speaker 3: could have been going through something medically. Your signature is
[2:19:50] Speaker 3: on the check that hits my direct deposit.
[2:19:52] Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? I could have been something medical.
[2:19:54] Speaker 5: I was just showing up in real time. You all
[2:19:56] Speaker 5: over here laughing. I'll never teach you, Gil. Because you
[2:19:58] Speaker 5: do it all the time. But when you say a
[2:20:00] Speaker 5: name in the arena, that's what the name becomes. So
[2:20:02] Speaker 5: now it is Hussein Bolt.
[2:20:03] Speaker 2: That's the new name. Yeah, right. And when I say it,
[2:20:05] Speaker 2: it's Hussein Bolt. That's the new name. We expect it, Gil.
[2:20:11] Speaker 3: Greg Williams.
[2:20:12] Speaker 2: You're going to butcher him and we're going to watch it.
[2:20:14] Speaker 2: Your name happens. We're going to laugh with you and
[2:20:19] Speaker 2: correct you. We call him Bob Vincent.
[2:20:22] Speaker 3: Do what he say.
[2:20:22] Speaker 2: Some three-letter word.
[2:20:24] Speaker 3: Sam Vincent.
[2:20:25] Speaker 2: We know what you're talking about. Sam Vincent.
[2:20:28] Speaker 3: We know what you're talking about.
[2:20:29] Speaker 5: We know exactly what you're talking about.
[2:20:39] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's move on to MostlyFans, presented by Underdog.
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[2:20:45] Speaker 3: $ 1, 000 of bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. Calorie sap.
[2:20:50] Speaker 3: I wanted them to make the t-shirts. The calorie sap t-shirt.
[2:20:53] Speaker 3: That's what it's called now.
[2:20:54] Speaker 2: They all on the way.
[2:20:55] Speaker 3: They under the calorie sap. That was a good one.
[2:20:57] Speaker 3: That was a real, you know, we all had, that
[2:20:59] Speaker 3: was a real, that was a real boy. The calorie sap.
[2:21:03] Speaker 3: Shout out to the chat, too. The thing is, when
[2:21:06] Speaker 3: you say shit like that, Gil, I look right to
[2:21:08] Speaker 3: the chat. And it's like, right away, just, it's definitely
[2:21:12] Speaker 3: a way. They're all on the same page.
[2:21:14] Speaker 2: Assholes in the chat.
[2:21:16] Speaker 3: They fit us well.
[2:21:17] Speaker 2: They fit us well, yeah. Absolutely.
[2:21:20] Speaker 7: We just need to start telling them to do shit.
[2:21:22] Speaker 3: Go get them.
[2:21:23] Speaker 5: Go get them over there. Like, they're a part of
[2:21:24] Speaker 5: the right group. I don't think they realize, like, this
[2:21:28] Speaker 5: is mild.
[2:21:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:21:31] Speaker 2: Level of asshole-ness that we could be. We step over
[2:21:38] Speaker 2: that line a little bit. Just a little bit. But
[2:21:40] Speaker 2: we can have both feet over that motherfucker consistently. Yeah.
[2:21:44] Speaker 2: Just give us some time. Yeah, just give us time.
[2:21:46] Speaker 2: Give us some time. No, we're definitely habitual line steppers. Absolutely.
[2:21:50] Speaker 3: Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. Welcome to the haters ball.
[2:21:57] Speaker 3: You gotta tell us something about them sweaters. Yeah, we
[2:22:00] Speaker 3: need to know. We getting all that situated? We're going
[2:22:02] Speaker 3: to get you all your merch, everybody who's been in
[2:22:04] Speaker 3: hot pursuit looking. You had a couple of technical difficulties,
[2:22:07] Speaker 3: a couple of delays. I have nothing to do with it.
[2:22:08] Speaker 3: I'm merely hosting. If you have any host-related questions, feel
[2:22:12] Speaker 3: free to hit me up. I'll be happy to answer
[2:22:13] Speaker 3: any of them. But we will get you all your merch.
[2:22:16] Speaker 3: And you're giving them.
[2:22:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll also receive a free item for their troubles.
[2:22:21] Speaker 3: We're sending y'all some free shit, too, because we know
[2:22:22] Speaker 3: y'all love free shit. We appreciate y'all for the delay.
[2:22:28] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[2:22:28] Speaker 5: Motherfuckers want a Christmas sweater? They getting it on Valentine's.
[2:22:31] Speaker 3: Speaking of free shit. Straight black show.
[2:22:35] Speaker 7: Speaking of free shit, I'm doing the Move Around TV,
[2:22:40] Speaker 7: introducing a new element of the extension of Gil's Arena,
[2:22:45] Speaker 7: and I want to start by giving away our own
[2:22:47] Speaker 7: little giveaway. You're going to get a free T-shirt, and
[2:22:51] Speaker 7: you'll get some free NBA tickets to a game of
[2:22:55] Speaker 7: your choice if you win the giveaway.
[2:22:57] Speaker 5: Okay.
[2:22:58] Speaker 7: Well, we'll have all the people sign up.
[2:23:00] Speaker 3: Follow me. Hit me in the DM with your underdog username.
[2:23:05] Speaker 3: You can only get in that way.
[2:23:06] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
[2:23:07] Speaker 7: Once I get everybody up until the date, March 8th.
[2:23:10] Speaker 7: I'm going to give you guys until March 8th to
[2:23:13] Speaker 7: cloud the DMs. Give me all your info. And I'm
[2:23:18] Speaker 7: going to put a little raffle together and see who
[2:23:21] Speaker 7: wins and give away these tickets to see what's going on.
[2:23:23] Speaker 2: Is it a Saturday game? No, it's a Saturday.
[2:23:26] Speaker 3: After March 8th.
[2:23:27] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:23:28] Speaker 3: All right. Shout out.
[2:23:30] Speaker 2: After March 8th.
[2:23:31] Speaker 7: Move around TV. Pick a good, nice little game wherever,
[2:23:34] Speaker 7: whoever the winner, wherever you stay.
[2:23:36] Speaker 3: Okay, so.
[2:23:37] Speaker 2: So it don't have to be just in L.A. Okay.
[2:23:40] Speaker 2: It's going to be in a bad region. Team season
[2:23:42] Speaker 2: going to be over.
[2:23:43] Speaker 3: Tickets. Them tickets do include. March Madness?
[2:23:48] Speaker 2: Yes. I would have done the Super Bowl, but. It's over.
[2:23:53] Speaker 3: Too late.
[2:23:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. Too late. Let's see.
[2:23:54] Speaker 3: March Madness.
[2:23:55] Speaker 2: Okay, March Madness.
[2:23:56] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, then. All right, well, our first question is
[2:23:58] Speaker 3: from underdog user mkades. He says, is James Harden's step
[2:24:02] Speaker 3: back the best signature move ever? Is James Harden's step
[2:24:06] Speaker 3: back the best signature move ever?
[2:24:08] Speaker 2: No. It's not a signature move. Because everybody do it.
[2:24:12] Speaker 3: It is a? Standard basketball move. People used to do it.
[2:24:16] Speaker 3: They just didn't call it a step back.
[2:24:18] Speaker 2: Signature?
[2:24:18] Speaker 3: Nah.
[2:24:19] Speaker 2: A signature? Nah.
[2:24:22] Speaker 3: A signature move. Dream shake.
[2:24:26] Speaker 5: It's not going to get no better than Michael Jordan's fadeaway.
[2:24:34] Speaker 2: The Dirk one leg.
[2:24:35] Speaker 3: One leg fadeaway? No.
[2:24:39] Speaker 2: Kevin Durant does it. But whose is better? What was
[2:24:45] Speaker 2: the question?
[2:24:47] Speaker 3: Is James Harden's step back the best signature move ever?
[2:24:50] Speaker 3: The best move ever is.
[2:24:52] Speaker 2: The sky hook. Yes. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Absolutely.
[2:24:54] Speaker 3: Absolutely. I'm with you, 1,000%.
[2:24:56] Speaker 2: I didn't know that was a thing. I just thought
[2:24:59] Speaker 2: that was his only move. No, no. I thought y'all watched...
[2:25:02] Speaker 2: I thought that's all he could do.
[2:25:04] Speaker 3: Nobody else did it.
[2:25:06] Speaker 7: I thought y'all watched basketball.
[2:25:07] Speaker 3: I just thought that was.
[2:25:08] Speaker 2: You are absolutely... Listen, I've said that shit for a while. Absolutely.
[2:25:11] Speaker 3: He didn't have no other options.
[2:25:12] Speaker 2: That's all right.
[2:25:13] Speaker 3: He couldn't go.
[2:25:14] Speaker 2: I'm just... Probably the most unstoppable move. It is. Probably.
[2:25:18] Speaker 2: It is the most... The simplest... Most unstoppable move in
[2:25:23] Speaker 2: NBA history that nobody could ever block. The man scored
[2:25:27] Speaker 2: 38,000 points, had one move. That's what I'm saying. So, yeah.
[2:25:31] Speaker 7: Absolutely.
[2:25:31] Speaker 3: And for all the hoopers out there that are trying
[2:25:33] Speaker 3: to do a skyhook.
[2:25:34] Speaker 2: A signature can go in as the only move, too.
[2:25:36] Speaker 2: Or just ain't nobody else did it. The way he
[2:25:40] Speaker 2: did it, people didn't try to implement it.
[2:25:43] Speaker 3: Ice Cube got it off during his last year pick-up
[2:25:45] Speaker 3: game where he dropped a triple-double. It didn't happen.
[2:25:48] Speaker 2: It did, but... This man scored 38,000. This man was
[2:25:51] Speaker 2: a lead NBA scorer. He had dunks, free throws, and
[2:25:55] Speaker 2: not dunks for part of his career. He had layups
[2:25:59] Speaker 2: and free throws.
[2:26:01] Speaker 7: Michael Jordan fadeaway. MCA, MJ, fadeaway, perfect. Okay, Lou Alcindor.
[2:26:08] Speaker 2: MJ, Louis Ferdinand, Alcindor. All that exists, and he still
[2:26:14] Speaker 2: had Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan had all that shit in
[2:26:18] Speaker 2: his repertoire.
[2:26:18] Speaker 3: The three-point line, all that shit, the fadeaway, all that
[2:26:22] Speaker 3: shit in his repertoire. Hey, throw that bitch down here.
[2:26:23] Speaker 3: The ring is seven foot, right?
[2:26:26] Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway crossover, one of them. The U-tap two-step?
[2:26:30] Speaker 5: It would have been Allen Iverson crossover. They ain't taking
[2:26:32] Speaker 5: that shit away from him. Because that motherfucker was lethal.
[2:26:36] Speaker 5: They took it from him.
[2:26:38] Speaker 7: Whenever Michael Jordan faded away, everybody ran down the.
[2:26:41] Speaker 2: No love for the LeFuck U3 from LeBron, no? You
[2:26:45] Speaker 2: trying to throw what? Okay.
[2:26:47] Speaker 3: Scott Hook. Okay. 38,000 points?
[2:26:54] Speaker 2: What's more unstoppable than that? A motherfucker had to play
[2:26:59] Speaker 2: forever to beat him. I mean, he wasn't just doing
[2:27:02] Speaker 2: that one move. Layups.
[2:27:04] Speaker 3: That's the only thing he had. Layups and free throws.
[2:27:06] Speaker 2: And maybe occasional 12-foot jump shot. Chad is saying the
[2:27:10] Speaker 2: dream shake. But is he?
[2:27:12] Speaker 3: Sky hook.
[2:27:13] Speaker 2: Just talking about that?
[2:27:15] Speaker 7: I would say dream shake because Mike's fadeaway came from
[2:27:17] Speaker 7: the dream.
[2:27:17] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[2:27:18] Speaker 5: The sky hook was the most unstoppable, but what is
[2:27:21] Speaker 5: the most, is this like, what's the most famous?
[2:27:24] Speaker 2: Like when you think about, like when somebody thinks signature move.
[2:27:26] Speaker 3: Best signature move ever. Best signature move. MJ fade away perfect.
[2:27:31] Speaker 2: Most effective. God damn it.
[2:27:33] Speaker 3: Best.
[2:27:37] Speaker 2: Just because they put it in the song don't mean it. No,
[2:27:40] Speaker 2: it's pretty perfect. That jump shot was pretty.
[2:27:43] Speaker 7: That fadeaway when you see Michael Jordan in 1995, 1996
[2:27:46] Speaker 7: do a fucking fadeaway on the left block.
[2:27:51] Speaker 2: 38,000.
[2:27:52] Speaker 3: Fading out of bounds in slow motion when all the
[2:27:56] Speaker 3: cameras are going like this. 38,000.
[2:28:01] Speaker 5: So, would Magic Johnson's signature move be just a no-look?
[2:28:05] Speaker 3: He-hee!
[2:28:06] Speaker 2: Would it just be considered a no-look pass for him? He-hee-hee!
[2:28:09] Speaker 2: He don't have a signature move. Yeah, that would be
[2:28:11] Speaker 2: his signature. That would be his signature, just a no-look?
[2:28:12] Speaker 2: A no-look, just... Okay, if that's what you're asking.
[2:28:15] Speaker 5: I'm just trying to think of, like, what are considered, like,
[2:28:18] Speaker 5: signature moves?
[2:28:20] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:28:20] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
[2:28:22] Speaker 2: Productive check. 38,000.
[2:28:24] Speaker 3: So, we got one more question. This is from underdog
[2:28:27] Speaker 3: user Shuman87. This is for you, Kenyon. Russell Westbrook and
[2:28:32] Speaker 3: DeMar are West Coast players, both from Southern California. Is
[2:28:36] Speaker 3: their style considered soft? Westbrook, no. We already said that.
[2:28:43] Speaker 3: We already said there.
[2:28:46] Speaker 2: Wasn't. DeMar DeRozan?
[2:28:46] Speaker 5: No.
[2:28:46] Speaker 2: They don't have the... No.
[2:28:47] Speaker 3: No.
[2:28:57] Speaker 5: They don't have the style that.
[2:28:59] Speaker 3: Yes, no.
[2:29:01] Speaker 2: We live rough over here.
[2:29:04] Speaker 5: You're talking about how James Harden plays, how Klay plays,
[2:29:07] Speaker 5: how Paul George plays. It's that style. It's a style
[2:29:12] Speaker 5: of play. It's not necessarily the person. It's how the
[2:29:15] Speaker 5: game is played.
[2:29:16] Speaker 2: What was the question? I feel like you're talking to me.
[2:29:17] Speaker 3: I am not ShoeMan87. I'm merely the conduit.
[2:29:21] Speaker 2: So the comment that I made about when I grew up,
[2:29:24] Speaker 2: West Coast guys were considered... It's off of basketball. They asked,
[2:29:28] Speaker 2: does DeMar DeRozan and Westbrook fit that? How they play.
[2:29:32] Speaker 2: How they play, do they fit it? I said no. Okay.
[2:29:36] Speaker 3: Thank you to everybody who sent questions in. I personally think...
[2:29:39] Speaker 3: DeMar DeRozan on the borderline. Russell Westbrook.
[2:29:45] Speaker 7: Is not getting the love and respect that he deserves
[2:29:50] Speaker 7: as one of the greatest players to ever fucking play
[2:29:52] Speaker 7: the game.
[2:29:54] Speaker 3: He's the toughest hard-nosed player Two ever play the game.
[2:30:00] Speaker 7: Everything he's done for the game has been overlooked. We
[2:30:03] Speaker 7: doing all this LeBron shit and we should be really
[2:30:06] Speaker 7: looking at Russ because we don't know how many years
[2:30:08] Speaker 7: he got and the way they've been playing with him.
[2:30:10] Speaker 7: And if we don't really look at this guy's totality
[2:30:13] Speaker 7: of how he play, it's going to be bad for business.
[2:30:15] Speaker 7: So I can't put Russ in that soft conversation because
[2:30:18] Speaker 7: his whole career... Ain't nothing been soft about Russell Westbrook.
[2:30:22] Speaker 2: Ain't nothing been... I didn't say he wasn't.
[2:30:24] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? If he was a representation
[2:30:25] Speaker 3: of Cali, if y'all say Russ.
[2:30:27] Speaker 2: Is this representation.
[2:30:28] Speaker 3: Russ Westside, as he's known. I'm just saying. Russ deserved.
[2:30:32] Speaker 2: I don't stand for no Russell Westbrook slander. You can't.
[2:30:37] Speaker 7: 30 and 10 and 10... What point guard ever did
[2:30:40] Speaker 7: 30 and 10 rebounds? Average 30 and 10 rebounds.
[2:30:46] Speaker 2: Never.
[2:30:47] Speaker 3: What do you mean he's not the greatest? What the
[2:30:50] Speaker 3: fuck you talking about? 30 and 10.
[2:30:53] Speaker 2: Four times.
[2:30:54] Speaker 5: I remember when the idea of a guy getting close
[2:30:59] Speaker 5: to a triple-double, and that was, like, seven and six, right?
[2:31:05] Speaker 5: And that was like, oh, my God, they could be.
[2:31:08] Speaker 2: That, right?
[2:31:09] Speaker 5: Because I was, you know, we was in a league
[2:31:12] Speaker 5: with J-Kid, and I remember, like.
[2:31:16] Speaker 2: Tim, not Tim Duncan, but KG was like a.
[2:31:18] Speaker 3: Five and five type or like eight and five.
[2:31:21] Speaker 5: Like these guys, I was going when LeBron was the
[2:31:23] Speaker 5: old man, he can, you know, 27 and eight.
[2:31:25] Speaker 2: Right.
[2:31:26] Speaker 5: And the idea you were you were the next Oscar
[2:31:30] Speaker 5: Robinson if you got close to that.
[2:31:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:31:33] Speaker 2: And then watching someone.
[2:31:36] Speaker 5: Do it and then they discredit it was actually crazy.
[2:31:44] Speaker 2: You listed a whole bunch of players.
[2:31:46] Speaker 5: You put these guys in categories to be this. And
[2:31:51] Speaker 5: then when a guy does it and does it and does.
[2:31:55] Speaker 2: It, it's like, yeah. He cheating. Yeah. He cheating. It
[2:32:00] Speaker 2: don't count. Ain't no way he doing this the right way.
[2:32:02] Speaker 3: Chasing stats.
[2:32:03] Speaker 2: Ain't no way.
[2:32:03] Speaker 5: It just became this thing that how did they put
[2:32:07] Speaker 5: this thing such on a pedestal And then someone dings it.
[2:32:11] Speaker 2: Ding, ding, ding. You're like, oh, no. It's the limit.
[2:32:13] Speaker 2: It's the limit.
[2:32:14] Speaker 3: They don't like the guy that did it. That's it.
[2:32:18] Speaker 2: They don't like the guy that did it.
[2:32:19] Speaker 7: Hey, Joe, I just want to close on this, though.
[2:32:21] Speaker 3: Look, imagine the last five years they wasn't fucking with
[2:32:24] Speaker 3: dude name and what he would have been. The last
[2:32:27] Speaker 3: five years, if they not fucking with dude name. He
[2:32:30] Speaker 3: just doing what he doing with Denver this year. See
[2:32:32] Speaker 3: what he still can do? Triple doubles.
[2:32:34] Speaker 7: With another guy in the game that does triple-doubles. We
[2:32:38] Speaker 7: both doing triple-doubles in 2025. Imagine the last five years
[2:32:42] Speaker 7: he didn't regress if he could still do it.
[2:32:45] Speaker 2: That means, what could I have.
[2:32:48] Speaker 3: Done in the last five years that have helped me
[2:32:51] Speaker 3: surpass these other little peon point guards?
[2:32:55] Speaker 2: Y'all are all peons to me.
[2:32:57] Speaker 3: Ain't none of y'all can stand in front of me
[2:32:58] Speaker 3: and be like.
[2:32:59] Speaker 2: I'm not the dog that will eat your heart out.
[2:33:01] Speaker 7: So you need to figure out where I rank amongst
[2:33:03] Speaker 7: all y'all because y'all.
[2:33:04] Speaker 2: Just cheated me five years. Five. It's over here.
[2:33:10] Speaker 3: On that note, shout out Russell Westbrook. Also UCLA Bruin,
[2:33:14] Speaker 3: just like Norm Powell. Shout out Martin Luther King, Martin
[2:33:17] Speaker 3: Luther Cream, whoever your Martin Luther is. Appreciate you, Cemetery Larry.
[2:33:22] Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Kenyon, as always. Appreciate you, Gil. Appreciate everybody
[2:33:25] Speaker 3: in the chat for rocking with us. Thank you to
[2:33:27] Speaker 3: Steve Smith Sr. Make sure you check out his 89
[2:33:29] Speaker 3: show on the Underdog Podcast Network. Like and subscribe on YouTube.
[2:33:34] Speaker 3: But that is it.
[2:33:35] Speaker 2: I did. You already did, Gil? I already did. See? Man,
[2:33:37] Speaker 2: to my word.
[2:33:38] Speaker 3: We're going to have him pull up.
[2:33:39] Speaker 2: Use my pick-ems today, too, man.
[2:33:41] Speaker 3: And make sure you rock with Rashad's partner pack on
[2:33:43] Speaker 3: the Underdog app tonight. But this has been another episode
[2:33:46] Speaker 3: of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-woo! We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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