# Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Their Top 10 Hoopers Of The Decade

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 16 Jul 2025, 2 h 27 min.

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Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Their Top 10 Hoopers Of Each Decade as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew give their lists of their top 10 players from the 2000s & 2010s and spark countless hostile debates over where they rank players like Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Allen Iverson, LeBron James and so many more. After that, they react to Andy Roddick responding to Gil's comments that tennis players are no where close to the best athletes in the world with a challenge for a left handed only match and continue the debate on which sport produces the best athletes before reigniting the Kobe Bryant sidekick debate after Gil uncovered footage of Kobe Bryant acknowledging his place alongside Shaquille O'Neal. Next, they react to Richard Jefferson's take that Team USA will not win gold in the 2028 Olympics and debate who will represent the red, white and blue on home soil when LeBron James, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant all retire from the international circuit. Finally, they whip around the NBA to highlight newsworthy stories like Asian sensation Yang Hansen taking NBA Summer League by storm, Bol Bol looming as one of the final NBA Free Agents ready to make an impact on a new team and the release of the most negative fan bases in the NBA. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Nick Young & Rashad McCants Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA. Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord 0:00:00 — 2 Min Timer 0:02:06 — Show Start 0:08:27 — Bradley Beal To The Clippers 0:31:01 — Gil's Arena Top 10 Players From The 2000's 0:56:30 — Gil's Arena Top 10 Players From The 2010's 1:39:15 — Kobe Confirms He Was A Robin 1:50:29 — Tennis Legend CALLS Out The Gil's Arena Crew 2:07:01 — Richard Jefferson's TERRIBLE Team USA Take 2:25:31 — MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa! Big day here in the arena. Big day
[0:09] Speaker 2: for the Beal family as well. A lot of stuff
[0:11] Speaker 2: going on around the league. How everybody feeling today? We
[0:15] Speaker 2: got the full couch. Must be something special going on.
[0:20] Speaker 2: Two more shows left, including today, before we take our
[0:22] Speaker 2: summer hiatus. Yeah, I see you okay. Coordinating. Swaggy got
[0:28] Speaker 2: the big boots. You know. Said you're about 6'10 now?
[0:32] Speaker 2: George Sanders? Look, he wouldn't be on this couch right now. 6'10? Yeah.
[0:38] Speaker 2: With the boots.
[0:38] Speaker 3: 175 three years, huh?
[0:42] Speaker 2: Still making that up. But this is Gil's Arena presented
[0:46] Speaker 2: by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas
[0:49] Speaker 2: here with us. We got NBA champion of the world,
[0:55] Speaker 2: Swaggy P, Nick Young, back on the couch. Next to him,
[1:01] Speaker 2: representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B,
[1:03] Speaker 2: Brandon Jennings. On this side of the couch, we got
[1:08] Speaker 2: the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick,
[1:10] Speaker 2: Canyon Martin, back in the arena. And last but not least,
[1:16] Speaker 2: the man they call Money Making Sonny, NCAA Champion of
[1:19] Speaker 2: the World, Rashad McCants. Thank you, baby. Showing love to
[1:23] Speaker 2: the six, Vince Sanity, coordinating as well. Hmm? Got to coordinate.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Got to coordinate. So for all the fans out there,
[1:34] Speaker 2: we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version,
[1:36] Speaker 2: mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking
[1:41] Speaker 2: in the arena today. Since everybody loves player rankings, our
[1:46] Speaker 2: Gills Arena crew is giving us their top 10 players
[1:48] Speaker 2: from the 2000s and the 2010s. Things should get interesting
[1:51] Speaker 2: on this couch, obviously. All these lifts are going to
[1:54] Speaker 2: be different and unique, but we will discuss that. Team
[1:57] Speaker 2: USA struggled to win gold at the 2024 Olympics and
[2:00] Speaker 2: will be without some or all. What the fuck did
[2:03] Speaker 2: you just say? Did they dominate or did they struggle? Yeah,
[2:06] Speaker 2: what are you talking about? That was a domination in
[2:08] Speaker 2: your opinion? Yes. There was a little shade on that.
[2:11] Speaker 2: What the fuck were you talking about? That's crazy. Thank you.
[2:16] Speaker 2: They never got within what, six? What are you talking about?
[2:19] Speaker 2: Steph Curry was 99 them niggas. They never got close.
[2:22] Speaker 2: It was never close. We was up 10. We was
[2:25] Speaker 2: double digits. We got to six. Curry put it to nine.
[2:28] Speaker 2: They put it to six. Curry put it to nine. Curry, night-night.
[2:32] Speaker 2: That's domination. That's domination. Yes. You never go up there. Really, 20-0? Shit.
[2:38] Speaker 2: That is not domination. These fans never stood up. You crazy.
[2:41] Speaker 2: They never got close enough to just wee-wee. They was wee-wee, Gil.
[2:44] Speaker 2: That's not domination. They was wee-wee. I was with a Frenchie, right?
[2:47] Speaker 2: She never felt good. And she was looking at you different.
[2:49] Speaker 2: She got this close and then had to sit back down.
[2:52] Speaker 1: She was looking at you.
[2:52] Speaker 2: Sit back down. But she knew. She knew. She got up.
[2:55] Speaker 2: Your ass got to get out. You get up, you
[2:58] Speaker 2: get out. She sit down. But looking ahead, they will
[3:01] Speaker 2: be without some or all of the big three of LeBron, Steph,
[3:03] Speaker 2: and KD for the next go-around. So will they still
[3:05] Speaker 2: even be the favorites? for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles. Again,
[3:09] Speaker 2: one of your former teammates had a spicy take. We
[3:11] Speaker 2: will discuss. And Bradley Beal. He had a spicy take.
[3:15] Speaker 2: Finally got bought out by the Suns and has agreed
[3:17] Speaker 2: to sign a two-year deal with the Los Angeles, not Lakers,
[3:21] Speaker 2: the Clippers. Ooh, where does that place them in the West?
[3:25] Speaker 2: But before we get into all that, as always, the
[3:26] Speaker 2: show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download
[3:28] Speaker 2: the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $ 1, 000
[3:29] Speaker 2: of bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And we're back
[3:32] Speaker 2: with another crew partner pack today. So as a reminder,
[3:35] Speaker 2: each member of our Gills Arena crew has submitted a
[3:37] Speaker 2: pick-em that we're combining to create our partner pack. We'll
[3:39] Speaker 2: tally up the individual picks, and whoever has the highest
[3:42] Speaker 2: percentage of accurate picks will receive a large sum of
[3:44] Speaker 2: underdog bread before we take our break tomorrow. So Canyon
[3:48] Speaker 2: is currently in the lead, 10 out of 11 picks
[3:51] Speaker 2: correct so far. Fuck with me. Second place, 9 of 11. Canyon,
[3:57] Speaker 2: we fuck with you. We already do. I've been tailing
[4:00] Speaker 2: all your picks. Rashad has 8 of 11 correct. Brandon
[4:04] Speaker 2: and Nick currently occupying last place, both with seven of
[4:07] Speaker 2: 11 correct. That shit. Dang! Really, this is a showdown
[4:11] Speaker 2: between Dillon Kenyon right now. Oh, so my pick hit yesterday.
[4:15] Speaker 2: That's what it's looking like. My pick hit yesterday then. Okay.
[4:20] Speaker 2: But Kenyon gets it right. He locks up the number
[4:22] Speaker 2: one seat. This is between y'all two. So without further ado,
[4:25] Speaker 2: let's get to our crew partner pack for today. Brandon
[4:30] Speaker 2: has Skyler Diggins, higher 7.5 rebounds and assists. Rashad has
[4:33] Speaker 2: Sabrina Ionescu, higher 29.5 points, rebounds and assists. Swaggy P
[4:37] Speaker 2: has Paige Beckers, higher 14.5 points. And Kenyon has Asia Wilson,
[4:41] Speaker 2: higher 9.5 rebounds. So for tracking purposes, Gil picked Camila Cardoso,
[4:46] Speaker 2: higher than 4.5 first half rebounds this morning. The game
[4:50] Speaker 2: is over and she hit. Kenyon might lose this one. Oh,
[4:52] Speaker 2: that was the morning game? Yeah, but it went out.
[4:54] Speaker 2: You got to check the time schedule. So currently tied
[4:57] Speaker 2: with Kenyon. For total correct. If Aja Wilson gets higher
[5:03] Speaker 2: than 9.5, pick him, champ. They simulate their game sometimes.
[5:14] Speaker 2: If you use current crew partner fact, you can win
[5:16] Speaker 2: 10 times your bread on the underdog app. So we
[5:18] Speaker 2: tied right now? With the same amount of correct picks,
[5:21] Speaker 2: you do have one more pick left to take the win.
[5:23] Speaker 2: I need you to lose.
[5:24] Speaker 4: He's going to lose the next two. Baseball is done.
[5:28] Speaker 4: Baseball is done until what?
[5:29] Speaker 2: Tuesday? I hit yesterday. Friday? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hit already.
[5:34] Speaker 2: I hit. No, I know. I hit on that. That
[5:38] Speaker 2: was yesterday.
[5:39] Speaker 1: Shout out to the MLB.
[5:40] Speaker 2: To our game. Very entertaining. What was yesterday? Like the
[5:43] Speaker 2: hit off at the end of the game. Yeah, I
[5:44] Speaker 2: had injuries. It was mine. Angel? What? 11. We're 7-11.
[5:51] Speaker 2: You guys, you're cooked. You're both cooked. You may be
[5:54] Speaker 2: able to combine your picks together. So we asked the
[6:01] Speaker 2: chat if they're riding or fading with the crew partner
[6:02] Speaker 2: pack for today. 61% of the chat riding with our
[6:06] Speaker 2: partner pack. Shout out to the chat for being supportive.
[6:08] Speaker 2: If you like this crew partner pack, go ahead and
[6:10] Speaker 2: add it on the Underdog app. If you don't have Underdog,
[6:12] Speaker 2: download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to
[6:13] Speaker 2: $ 1, 000 in bonus cash. plus a special pick-em, and if
[6:16] Speaker 2: you can't watch the show live, it's on YouTube. Audio
[6:18] Speaker 2: version available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So,
[6:22] Speaker 2: let's get right to it. The Bradley Bill era in
[6:24] Speaker 2: Phoenix is officially over. We got the breaking news this morning,
[6:28] Speaker 2: courtesy of Shams. He dropped the report, said three-time All-Star
[6:31] Speaker 2: Bradley Bill agreed to a contract buyout with the Suns,
[6:35] Speaker 2: plans to join the Clippers on a two-year $ 11 million
[6:38] Speaker 2: deal with a player option after clearing waivers. So, according
[6:42] Speaker 2: to Shams, Bill's giving back nearly $ 14 million out of
[6:44] Speaker 2: the $ 110 million on the final two years of his
[6:47] Speaker 2: contract to complete the buyout with the Suns, who will
[6:50] Speaker 2: likely waive and stretch the remaining salary over five years.
[6:52] Speaker 2: The deal with the Clippers includes a player option for
[6:54] Speaker 2: next season, which could lead to unrestricted free agency and
[6:57] Speaker 2: another contract next offseason if things go well for Bill
[7:00] Speaker 2: with the Clippers. But before we look at the future,
[7:04] Speaker 2: let's look at the past. How would you sum up
[7:06] Speaker 2: the Bradley-Bill era in Phoenix? The questions on this guy, man. What?
[7:16] Speaker 2: It's weird. The balls of you. The nerve of you.
[7:19] Speaker 2: God damn. Lately, it's just been out of the blue.
[7:22] Speaker 2: A big-time move. No trade clause. Huge expectations for that
[7:27] Speaker 2: Suns squad. The highest payroll in NBA history did not
[7:31] Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And what was that question again? KD Guns,
[7:35] Speaker 2: how would you sum up the Bradley Bill era in Phoenix?
[7:37] Speaker 2: And then what did you just say right before that?
[7:39] Speaker 2: I gave a bunch of information to add contextualize. So
[7:43] Speaker 2: you said they had the highest payroll in NBA history.
[7:46] Speaker 2: In the history of the Adam Silver's National Basketball Association.
[7:48] Speaker 2: Equal they did make the playoffs. There were injuries involved.
[7:52] Speaker 2: There were situations. So what do you think? I'm not
[7:55] Speaker 2: allowed to think. I'm allowed to merely host. Bradley Bill
[7:57] Speaker 2: tried to act like it never happened. Yeah.
[7:59] Speaker 3: And just move on.
[8:01] Speaker 2: But he did. Are you supportive of Bill getting his bread, though?
[8:04] Speaker 2: I think close to $ 96 million. Yeah, I mean, you
[8:07] Speaker 2: have to get your bread. He gets to pick the
[8:09] Speaker 2: team he wants to go to, that team being the Clippers.
[8:13] Speaker 3: You actually got your bread.
[8:14] Speaker 2: New situation. Are you going to get that either way?
[8:19] Speaker 2: You got a man in black, that boy. Forget it.
[8:24] Speaker 2: Set it and forget it. So let's shift ahead. The
[8:27] Speaker 2: Clippers now have a projected starting lineup of Harden, Bradley, Bill,
[8:29] Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard, John Collins, Evita Zubak with a bench that
[8:33] Speaker 2: includes Brooke Lopez and Boggy Boggy. How formidable is the
[8:38] Speaker 2: Clippers starting five, including Bill? Not all at once, gentlemen. Please. Oh,
[8:48] Speaker 2: they fucking nice. They good to me. You like that
[8:51] Speaker 2: crew swaggy?
[8:52] Speaker 1: I feel like I don't want to say it's an upgrade,
[8:57] Speaker 1: but he's kind of back in the same similar situation,
[9:00] Speaker 1: you know. being the third man once Kawhi come back.
[9:05] Speaker 1: But James is more of a point guard. He's a
[9:08] Speaker 1: point guard. He's not like, I can't think of his name, man, Phoenix.
[9:15] Speaker 1: They was trying to make him a point guard, but
[9:16] Speaker 1: he just scored. Like Devin Booker. The point guard by committee.
[9:19] Speaker 1: But he just scored, so he definitely would get the ball.
[9:24] Speaker 1: I'd go in there with a chip on my shoulder.
[9:25] Speaker 1: I don't mean to interrupt you, brother, but can I
[9:29] Speaker 1: get a shot, please? It was a request of the shot.
[9:33] Speaker 1: You know, but just bring the bottle.
[9:34] Speaker 2: Why y'all not happy like I was with Dane? We're
[9:38] Speaker 2: happy that Bradley Bill gets his bread. We're just a
[9:41] Speaker 2: little disappointed.
[9:42] Speaker 5: The man's going to get his money no matter what.
[9:45] Speaker 2: Had a lot of options out there. Just bring the bottle.
[9:48] Speaker 2: Two teams in Los Angeles. Just bring the bottle. He
[9:50] Speaker 2: could have went to the Lakers. They're starting five. There
[9:53] Speaker 2: was 29 teams he could have potentially.
[9:54] Speaker 5: That one of them did that. Yeah, they're starting five.
[9:57] Speaker 5: So you say James, Bradley Beal, Kawhi, John Collins, Zubak.
[10:03] Speaker 2: God damn it. A.K.A. Zubak, man. They about to win. Well, T.
[10:06] Speaker 5: Lewis should put, I'm saying, if he's going to put
[10:07] Speaker 5: Bradley Beal in a bunch of catch-and-shoot situations where he
[10:10] Speaker 5: can be effective, I think that's, but he's got to
[10:12] Speaker 5: run plays for him, and that shit is, they're going
[10:15] Speaker 5: to be. Yo, they gonna be slow as a motherfucker, bro.
[10:18] Speaker 1: They about to win the chip. That's my team in
[10:21] Speaker 1: the West.
[10:22] Speaker 2: Who? That's my team. Well, they playing in the half court.
[10:24] Speaker 2: You see all them people you just named? And they
[10:26] Speaker 2: got to play in the half court, though. You said James, Bill, Kawhi, Collins.
[10:31] Speaker 5: That's half court. That's half court 90s basketball.
[10:35] Speaker 2: I didn't even think of that. You didn't think about it? What?
[10:38] Speaker 2: You really didn't think about it? But that's half court
[10:39] Speaker 2: 90s basketball. Oh, you didn't think about it.
[10:43] Speaker 1: Western Conference are champions of the world or bust.
[10:47] Speaker 2: All they did was got PG back. Same team. Shaw,
[10:58] Speaker 2: you're referring to Paul George now with the Sixers. Same guy.
[11:02] Speaker 2: Bradley Bill coming to the Clippers. He's not hurt, though.
[11:04] Speaker 4: I'm not talking about hurt or anything. I'm talking about
[11:06] Speaker 4: just as far as the player, the skill. Same player.
[11:10] Speaker 4: Same type of player.
[11:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. For a system that didn't work for them at all.
[11:15] Speaker 2: It would have worked.
[11:16] Speaker 4: Huh?
[11:17] Speaker 2: Would have worked. You said it would have worked? It
[11:19] Speaker 2: would have worked.
[11:20] Speaker 5: They got him playing half court, so yeah. Five years.
[11:23] Speaker 2: Five years? Not talking about. Oh, shit. You're talking about today. Yeah,
[11:26] Speaker 2: we're talking about today, the team.
[11:28] Speaker 1: Bradley Bill is not coming to the Clippers to be
[11:31] Speaker 1: Phoenix Bradley Bill.
[11:32] Speaker 2: So he going to be less than Phoenix Bradley Bill?
[11:34] Speaker 2: He better.
[11:35] Speaker 1: And no matter what, he still averaged 18. With them
[11:39] Speaker 1: two motherfuckers. BG averaged 24. The two people that don't
[11:43] Speaker 1: pass that just know how to score. Now you got
[11:47] Speaker 1: James that won a pass.
[11:49] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. He's going to be happy now. Do he want
[11:52] Speaker 2: to shoot? Shit, he want to shoot. He's dying to shoot. So,
[11:56] Speaker 2: Bill averaged 17-4 assists, three rounds last season, 53 games,
[11:59] Speaker 2: but did shoot a career-best 57% from two-pointers last season.
[12:04] Speaker 2: I see you getting inebriated early now. It's not even
[12:07] Speaker 2: new in Los Angeles. Oh, man.
[12:09] Speaker 6: There's just some times in life, man, where somebody, sometimes
[12:15] Speaker 6: people just cause you to drink, become an alcoholic, so.
[12:18] Speaker 2: Everybody, I just want y'all to know. You could be
[12:21] Speaker 2: having that walk today. If I bottom out, moving forward,
[12:27] Speaker 2: y'all know where it started. That nigga right there. There's
[12:31] Speaker 2: a lovely freeway underpass on Winneka. Bradley Bill. I was a...
[12:36] Speaker 2: You could have got him for Jake. I got that
[12:39] Speaker 2: nigga jersey sitting on the goddamn hallway. Bill, right in there. Mm-hmm.
[12:46] Speaker 2: You feel like Bradley Bill what I do by going
[12:47] Speaker 2: to the Clippers.
[12:48] Speaker 6: Don't say his name no more man Because then I
[12:51] Speaker 6: got I got a disrespect my friend. Let's go into
[12:54] Speaker 6: the enemy out of all places You're about to get
[12:57] Speaker 6: that going to the fucking flipper Clippers.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Oh, he was supposed to go to the Lakers. Yes. Mm-hmm.
[13:06] Speaker 2: He missed he didn't get the script.
[13:07] Speaker 4: I didn't get the memo either He didn't get the
[13:08] Speaker 4: script out of all.
[13:10] Speaker 6: The team that you could have went to for me
[13:13] Speaker 6: to still be a fan.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm You go and heighten the fucking side chick.
[13:20] Speaker 6: It's like this when you buy the side chick a
[13:23] Speaker 6: car because she got pregnant.
[13:26] Speaker 2: Now you're stuck with it. That's what happens.
[13:29] Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say your ass.
[13:33] Speaker 2: That's harder.
[13:34] Speaker 6: You get that off the jump, giving your ass a
[13:35] Speaker 6: little upgrade, little titties and stuff.
[13:38] Speaker 2: This one, she got pregnant and you got this.
[13:40] Speaker 5: Right now, this is that jello ball, man.
[13:45] Speaker 1: Gotta call your girl, hey, man, I gotta get married, man.
[13:48] Speaker 1: I gotta get married real fast. Knock somebody up, man.
[13:52] Speaker 2: I'm not coming home. I gotta leave ya. Baby, I'm
[13:56] Speaker 2: not coming back. On that corner. That's an honest woman, man.
[14:02] Speaker 1: And then Rihanna kicks in and you gotta leave her too.
[14:07] Speaker 2: But, yeah. Because now all the Clippers fans.
[14:13] Speaker 6: Are the worst fans in the world to me. Like,
[14:18] Speaker 6: now I got to think about getting a jersey. I
[14:20] Speaker 6: got to think about reality right now. A potential bandwagon
[14:24] Speaker 6: you would consider joining, too.
[14:26] Speaker 2: Unfortunately, man. Clippers spot does look nice on paper. It
[14:31] Speaker 2: looks nice.
[14:32] Speaker 6: We got that starting five. I already wear the James Harden's.
[14:36] Speaker 6: Already got a Harden jersey. Already got some old Clippers stuff. So,
[14:40] Speaker 6: I mean, it could be an easy transition, but I
[14:43] Speaker 6: grew up not liking them. Even though I support them.
[14:48] Speaker 6: Even though I support them.
[14:49] Speaker 2: This one's everybody's favorite.
[14:50] Speaker 6: When LA, you know, you support all your LA stuff,
[14:53] Speaker 6: but when you're a Laker fan, you just automatically inherited
[14:56] Speaker 6: hating the Clippers.
[14:57] Speaker 2: Y'all like that five? Yeah, I was easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shai,
[15:02] Speaker 2: you're not rolling with that. You like that five? You
[15:04] Speaker 2: like that five? Just replacing PG with Bill. You had
[15:06] Speaker 2: Norm Powell. You traded Norm Powell.
[15:08] Speaker 4: Bradley Bill is not a defender like PG was. He's
[15:13] Speaker 4: not a court team. He's not an ISO player like
[15:16] Speaker 4: PG was. Doing a regular season. I think, to be honest,
[15:20] Speaker 4: I just wanted him.
[15:21] Speaker 5: The best one, the only one that really runs and
[15:24] Speaker 5: runs consistently is Avisa Zuboff.
[15:26] Speaker 6: Yeah, and then they got a backup big. That's a
[15:30] Speaker 6: nasty word.
[15:31] Speaker 2: No. You got Lopez. Nasty word. That's a decent playoff team.
[15:40] Speaker 2: You got to get there. No, because they're half court.
[15:44] Speaker 2: So you don't think they. Then I got eliminated by
[15:47] Speaker 2: the Clippers.
[15:48] Speaker 7: I hear you.
[15:49] Speaker 2: But I'm saying. We haven't did anything different.
[15:53] Speaker 1: My last loss was from the Clippers.
[15:57] Speaker 2: It was you.
[15:58] Speaker 6: My last basketball game, losing against this Clippers.
[16:01] Speaker 2: Did you dap them up after the game, or did
[16:03] Speaker 2: you just walk to the locker room? We had a
[16:06] Speaker 2: good old time. That was fun. We was winning in
[16:09] Speaker 2: the hotel room. That was fun. We was winning. That
[16:12] Speaker 2: was fun. You stopped by the hotel room. No, they
[16:16] Speaker 2: stayed in the hotel room.
[16:17] Speaker 1: All he had to do was just come on up
[16:19] Speaker 1: to the penthouse suite.
[16:21] Speaker 2: He had just got there.
[16:22] Speaker 5: I was downstairs at the restaurant eating oxtails. I had
[16:25] Speaker 5: Shakira come from Orlando. She brought me some oxtails on
[16:29] Speaker 5: the plane. And you took those to the restaurant?
[16:32] Speaker 2: Absolutely. I was in the restaurant downstairs eating oxtails. I
[16:37] Speaker 2: like it. Deadass. We signed Jake from Allstate. Jake LaRovia, Gil.
[16:45] Speaker 2: For 12. For 12, the same two. They got Bradley.
[16:48] Speaker 2: For a million dollars more. Yeah, that's nasty work. They
[16:50] Speaker 2: got Bradley. Y'all got Bradley Beal and Brooke Lopez in
[16:53] Speaker 2: the offseason. That's nasty work, Clippers. What? That's nasty work.
[16:57] Speaker 2: No Lakers, no Lakers. That's nasty work. At this point
[17:00] Speaker 2: in their career? At this point in their career? Brooke
[17:04] Speaker 2: Lopez also considered the Lakers. Brooke might take them a
[17:07] Speaker 2: little further. Who? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Just because
[17:11] Speaker 2: of his presence. No.
[17:12] Speaker 4: He can shoot the long ball. That shit is bad basketball.
[17:15] Speaker 4: And they never had a big that can shoot. Him
[17:16] Speaker 4: out there shooting that motherfucker 27 dog, that shit. James Harden, look,
[17:20] Speaker 4: James Harden at the top. You need a younger big
[17:22] Speaker 4: that can do that. You need a younger big that
[17:24] Speaker 4: can do that, do the same shit.
[17:25] Speaker 2: Well, there is one currently still a free agent. I'm
[17:27] Speaker 2: just saying, bro.
[17:28] Speaker 5: The son of Manu Bo. Yeah, I just, I look
[17:30] Speaker 5: at it. Good basketball player, absolutely, but I'm just looking
[17:34] Speaker 5: at they're going to have to play in the half.
[17:36] Speaker 2: Court, bro. You're not going to have the ball all
[17:39] Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, that's my thing, man.
[17:41] Speaker 5: You're going to have to run plays for Bradley Beal.
[17:42] Speaker 5: You've got to run plays for Kawhi. You've got to
[17:44] Speaker 5: get them hot.
[17:45] Speaker 2: You've got to keep them calm and all that. The
[17:47] Speaker 2: ball ain't going to move enough.
[17:49] Speaker 5: It moved last year for Powell, right? It was aggressive
[17:52] Speaker 5: as shit. And he's playing fast. He get out and running.
[17:55] Speaker 5: He was the youngest one.
[17:56] Speaker 2: Of them all. You're talking about off the bench Powell?
[17:58] Speaker 2: James kicking that bitch up.
[17:58] Speaker 1: You're talking about starter Powell. Yeah, James kicking that bitch
[18:01] Speaker 1: up and going Powell, and he's being aggressive.
[18:02] Speaker 2: For sure.
[18:03] Speaker 3: Nah, man.
[18:04] Speaker 1: They ain't rats, but fuck you. It ain't five teams
[18:09] Speaker 1: in the West better than the Clippers right now.
[18:12] Speaker 2: Five teams? Yes. There's not five teams better than the
[18:14] Speaker 2: Clippers in the West right now. There's not? There's not.
[18:16] Speaker 2: Who said that? The Thunder better than the Clippers right now.
[18:19] Speaker 2: Who said that? The Thunder better. Are the Nuggets better? Yes.
[18:22] Speaker 2: Are the Rockets better? Yes. No. Spurs? Yes. No. Are
[18:25] Speaker 2: the Lakers better? No. No. With Skinny Luka. Mavericks. Slovenian Luka.
[18:30] Speaker 2: Skinny Luka, no Lake, no LeBron, just Luka. Summer League Bronny. Mavericks. Mavericks,
[18:35] Speaker 2: all right. Mavericks, all right. Jake Marabia came. Man, I'm
[18:39] Speaker 2: not picking the Mavericks. Who they going to say? Who
[18:42] Speaker 2: they going to say? Who they going to say?
[18:43] Speaker 1: Who they going to say?
[18:45] Speaker 2: Who they going to say? Who they going to say?
[18:49] Speaker 2: Timberwolves better than the Clippers. Timberwolves better than the Clippers.
[18:53] Speaker 2: You got five power fours as your point guard in Dallas.
[18:55] Speaker 2: Dallas better than the Clippers.
[18:57] Speaker 1: Dallas better than the Clippers.
[18:59] Speaker 2: He said it. He said it. Every team you send
[19:02] Speaker 2: to Texas is better. I'm not rolling.
[19:05] Speaker 1: I don't get how y'all like pushed The KD moved
[19:09] Speaker 1: to the Rockets, and he was on the same team
[19:12] Speaker 1: getting his ass kicked, but they had a championship contender.
[19:15] Speaker 2: Yeah. It was second team last year. And Bill comes
[19:17] Speaker 2: to a not championship contender. A not championship contender. Took
[19:21] Speaker 2: him to a game seven. A not championship contender. A
[19:23] Speaker 2: Bill away from winning. A not championship contender. Bill away
[19:27] Speaker 2: from winning the championship this year. Are you serious?
[19:29] Speaker 6: Well, he was on our team. It was a big
[19:33] Speaker 6: man away from winning. The big man didn't show up
[19:36] Speaker 6: that game.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[19:38] Speaker 2: He got the yokitis. The yokitis. That's all.
[19:44] Speaker 1: It really wasn't supposed to be a game seven. The
[19:46] Speaker 1: first game they tricked off. Then you get a magical
[19:51] Speaker 1: tip in. Like, come on, man. And I can see
[19:54] Speaker 1: him being OKC. But you're saying you get Bradley Bill
[19:56] Speaker 1: one year deal. Very low price point. Get a pissed
[20:00] Speaker 1: off Bradley Bill. Was told to play like Drew Holiday. Man,
[20:03] Speaker 1: they still going to be playing in the half court. Listen,
[20:06] Speaker 1: they can be mad. Was told to play like Drew Holiday.
[20:10] Speaker 2: We get it. Like, cool.
[20:11] Speaker 1: He was told to play like Drew Holiday.
[20:17] Speaker 5: But this is three, four years removed from that. So
[20:23] Speaker 5: this is a half court basketball team, dog. And NBA,
[20:26] Speaker 5: these boys playing fast as shit.
[20:27] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 30. 32 years old.
[20:29] Speaker 4: That's why I look weird out there with them. That's
[20:31] Speaker 4: why I say they're not changing nothing.
[20:32] Speaker 2: They're just, yeah.
[20:33] Speaker 4: They're turning into the Grizzlies back in the day.
[20:36] Speaker 2: So, realistically, looking at this roster as it stands on
[20:38] Speaker 2: paper right now, where do you rank the Clippers in
[20:40] Speaker 2: the West? Routed off a bunch of teams, but what
[20:43] Speaker 2: number do they fall in? They top three. We're fifth
[20:47] Speaker 2: last season. I give them six. With Kawhi missing a
[20:50] Speaker 2: ton of games.
[20:52] Speaker 4: With no Norm Powell, he was a big part of that.
[20:56] Speaker 2: The potential for a healthier Kawhi. Healthier. Yeah, I'm, yes,
[21:01] Speaker 2: all things. 5'6. 5'6. Hmm.
[21:06] Speaker 3: There you go.
[21:06] Speaker 2: 19.
[21:07] Speaker 3: They got bets, right?
[21:08] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, you look like you stressed out. Kawhi played
[21:15] Speaker 2: 37 games last year. Obviously, no one can hold it down.
[21:17] Speaker 2: Not the same guy, man. It looked like it this year. Shit.
[21:26] Speaker 1: It's a little somber here on the couch. Hey, nigga,
[21:29] Speaker 1: who you like, 37? I'm sorry. That shit look nice.
[21:32] Speaker 1: What we doing with LeBron? We treating him like shit.
[21:35] Speaker 1: I don't really like that right now.
[21:36] Speaker 2: You don't like it? I would agree with that, Swag.
[21:38] Speaker 2: I really ain't rolling with that.
[21:41] Speaker 6: Like.
[21:41] Speaker 1: I don't think we need nothing else. The Lakers have
[21:44] Speaker 1: got a great-ass team.
[21:46] Speaker 2: That's a great team. Great-ass team. Great-ass team. A very
[21:49] Speaker 2: good team.
[21:50] Speaker 1: If you treat our second star like he ain't shit.
[21:53] Speaker 2: Who's the second? I know we got Lucas. Who is
[21:55] Speaker 2: the second star? The guy. We got God. We got God.
[21:57] Speaker 2: We got God. But damn. You know what I mean?
[21:59] Speaker 2: Sometimes I be hoping that I got him. And I
[22:02] Speaker 2: forgot them.
[22:03] Speaker 1: Niggas, they turned on God.
[22:05] Speaker 2: You got to say it by yourself. keep them peasants
[22:09] Speaker 2: to the side. So we don't really need them. You
[22:11] Speaker 2: know what? Cool! You know, he made me feel better.
[22:16] Speaker 6: Okay, we need, that's all we needed was Luca.
[22:19] Speaker 2: Right? White Jesus.
[22:20] Speaker 1: I know God was black, but he turned him white.
[22:23] Speaker 2: White Jesus. Okay.
[22:24] Speaker 1: Slovenian Jesus looks very Slovenian. I don't know how to
[22:27] Speaker 1: do it. Americanized. We Americanized Jesus. He's not eating American
[22:30] Speaker 1: food right now. I'm eating Slovenian cuisine.
[22:33] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, yeah. Get his ass out of here. But
[22:38] Speaker 2: I did get some good news from Brian. He staying?
[22:43] Speaker 2: Going to Dallas? Space Jam 3? No. What's the news?
[22:47] Speaker 2: I'm not telling you, nigga. You don't get to check
[22:52] Speaker 2: no more, brother. You don't get to check no more.
[22:56] Speaker 2: One more day. You thought you was in.
[22:59] Speaker 1: I told you when you didn't show up to the
[23:01] Speaker 1: LeBarbie doll, you didn't get the invite.
[23:04] Speaker 2: They wasn't fucking with you, man. One more day. One
[23:07] Speaker 2: more day. I thought he farted. I thought he farted,
[23:11] Speaker 2: but the nigga cold shitted. You thought it was a bar.
[23:16] Speaker 2: You thought it was a bar. Well, that's the cold shit.
[23:19] Speaker 2: Let's just say he's.
[23:20] Speaker 6: Seen these reports and they said he was one way
[23:23] Speaker 6: from being a GOAT. I think he was one vote
[23:26] Speaker 6: away from taking over number one. So he wants that vote.
[23:31] Speaker 6: He want that vote.
[23:33] Speaker 2: Hell yeah, you want that. Well, he get that both.
[23:35] Speaker 2: Playing basketball. I worked all my life for this shit.
[23:41] Speaker 2: Motherfucker's going to do this shit to me.
[23:44] Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to do with this barbecue business, nigga.
[23:49] Speaker 2: Well, Brian still have a 310 area code on his phone. Oh,
[24:03] Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just going to wait until you
[24:04] Speaker 2: get drunk and you're going to spill the beans anyway. Yeah,
[24:06] Speaker 2: I don't know. You're about two shots away. I don't know.
[24:09] Speaker 2: You know you can't keep a secret. I don't know, man.
[24:11] Speaker 2: You're three shots away from the wall. The wall's coming.
[24:14] Speaker 2: The same. But as it's on this couch, you get
[24:17] Speaker 2: billed for that amount of bread one year, basically. He
[24:21] Speaker 2: gets the opportunity to opt out next season and become
[24:24] Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent. How did that situation went down
[24:27] Speaker 2: in Phoenix? You don't think he's going to come out
[24:30] Speaker 2: and try to prove the naysayers wrong? What do you
[24:34] Speaker 2: mean when it went down? We gave you that. Yes, Joe. Yes. Cool.
[24:39] Speaker 2: You keep saying it.
[24:40] Speaker 5: Yes, but they still going to play in the half court.
[24:44] Speaker 2: I'm giving you all that, but that's going to be
[24:45] Speaker 2: a slow ad. Listen, bro. I hear you. Yeah. Not
[24:49] Speaker 2: conducive for the current NBA pacers.
[24:51] Speaker 1: I don't think so. Shoot a bunch of threes, though.
[24:54] Speaker 1: They're going to have to. And they got Zupac.
[24:58] Speaker 2: Which is... Boggy, Boggy. No, no, I'm saying Zubac is...
[25:04] Speaker 2: They got Zubac, they do. They do got Boggy. They
[25:06] Speaker 2: got the basketball player. They do got Boggy over there. No,
[25:10] Speaker 2: they do. Solid team, but I just... Solid team, man.
[25:12] Speaker 2: They always get solid.
[25:13] Speaker 5: Solid team, good coach. All that still exists, but I'm
[25:16] Speaker 5: just looking at the way they gonna... I think they
[25:18] Speaker 5: gonna have to play.
[25:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[25:19] Speaker 4: So you saying what I've been saying is having adjusted...
[25:23] Speaker 4: from the half-court game. Yeah, they got to play fast. Yeah, man,
[25:27] Speaker 4: because James and Kawhi in the half-court, nigga, it's full motion.
[25:31] Speaker 2: I don't think T. Luke can coach young guys. Yeah, probably.
[25:35] Speaker 5: That's probably what it is. I don't think he can
[25:37] Speaker 5: coach young guys. He's too straightforward. Two of the expectations
[25:41] Speaker 5: is winning now, and I can't fucking trust you, so
[25:45] Speaker 5: give me some vets and guys I can trust, so
[25:48] Speaker 5: I get it. I get it, too. I dig it,
[25:50] Speaker 5: but it's just the way they're going to play is...
[25:54] Speaker 5: Kawhi needs his touches. Kawhi needs his touches. He needs
[25:56] Speaker 5: to get his rhythm. Bradley Beal has to get touches
[25:59] Speaker 5: to get his rhythm.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Lubach not fast. He runs. He runs. But he's not fast.
[26:05] Speaker 2: He runs consistently. Who is the contenders? OKC still the
[26:08] Speaker 2: number one contender? That would probably be it. Yeah. Denver. Yeah.
[26:14] Speaker 2: Minnesota going to get better. Minnesota better. I forgot about Minnesota.
[26:17] Speaker 2: Lakers improve. Shut up, Josiah. I'm taking the Clippers over
[26:21] Speaker 2: Minnesota right now.
[26:22] Speaker 5: Y'all see any Lucas only guy at the Andre is
[26:25] Speaker 5: it Jake LaRabia taking the Clippers over the Warriors the
[26:28] Speaker 5: Warriors going they gonna be a long as they still
[26:31] Speaker 5: long as they still got them they gonna be whatever
[26:34] Speaker 5: Jake LaRabia the first all three at least them three
[26:39] Speaker 5: just them three so Papa de Limon San Antonio will
[26:45] Speaker 5: be better you don't think Houston Centonio going to be better, bro.
[26:48] Speaker 2: Houston, we have a fucking problem down here. Yeah, man. Huh? Yeah, Houston.
[26:53] Speaker 2: Houston has a fucking problem, bro. Everybody pass.
[26:56] Speaker 4: That's almost another cheat code for KD. KD created a
[26:59] Speaker 4: whole other cheat code for us. His mind's messed up.
[27:03] Speaker 4: Superstar there now. Oh, superstar there. Going to be thinking about, damn,
[27:07] Speaker 4: can I shoot this or I pass it?
[27:08] Speaker 2: KD. It's over, man. You know how that shit be? Yeah,
[27:16] Speaker 2: get your ass in.
[27:17] Speaker 1: The corner, man.
[27:20] Speaker 2: You know not to shoot that shit. Shooting that little shit.
[27:27] Speaker 2: Not this year. Are Warriors a formidable option in the
[27:30] Speaker 2: West still? I think so.
[27:32] Speaker 8: 6-7.
[27:32] Speaker 1: 6-7.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Okay, 6-7. They got Steph, though. They got 30, Mr. B.
[27:34] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[27:41] Speaker 2: Play off Jimmy.
[27:42] Speaker 5: Bradley Beal, I mean, Jimmy Butler from the beginning of
[27:44] Speaker 5: the season, Steph Draymond, I don't know who.
[27:47] Speaker 4: Kameena is gone, ain't he?
[27:49] Speaker 2: They're still fucking with him. No, no. Restricted free agents
[27:53] Speaker 2: at this moment.
[27:54] Speaker 9: That's already just kind of, you're already going into the
[27:56] Speaker 9: season kind of.
[27:58] Speaker 2: Absolutely. I heard a report that all the reports about
[28:01] Speaker 2: the contracts they offered were not accurate. Very disrespectful. Very
[28:05] Speaker 2: disrespectful offer off the jump. According to reliable sources.
[28:09] Speaker 1: I thought they gave him 30 for three.
[28:13] Speaker 2: Damn, nasty, nasty. We can get that right now. Like Bill. Man,
[28:21] Speaker 2: one for 11? Yeah, the Clippers going to be all right.
[28:24] Speaker 2: Not a respectful offer, but we asked the chat, do
[28:27] Speaker 2: you like Bradley Bill on the Clippers? 50-50 split in
[28:32] Speaker 2: the chat. On this couch. Now we're only saying the
[28:34] Speaker 2: half-court game. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
[28:37] Speaker 5: Good skills, all that shit. They're good pros. But it's
[28:43] Speaker 5: slow as shit, man.
[28:45] Speaker 2: Slow as shit, according to Kenya Martin. We will see.
[28:48] Speaker 2: The season is a few months away. How they will
[28:51] Speaker 2: do it. Kawhi plays may put them in a better situation.
[28:54] Speaker 2: But nonetheless, let's keep it moving. So Monday, we address
[28:57] Speaker 2: Bleacher Report's top 100 NBA players of all times list.
[29:01] Speaker 2: Took some issues with some of the rankings including Kobe
[29:04] Speaker 2: being ranked 11th on that list. So since everybody likes
[29:07] Speaker 2: to make top players list nowadays, and since we are
[29:10] Speaker 2: the new media, we ask each member of our Gills
[29:12] Speaker 2: Arena crew to provide us with their top 10 players
[29:15] Speaker 2: from the 2000s and the 2010s. So for the sake
[29:18] Speaker 2: of clarity and transparency, the 2000s list is from 2000
[29:20] Speaker 2: to 2009. The 2010s list is from 2010 to 2019.
[29:27] Speaker 2: So we're going to go around the couch, look at
[29:28] Speaker 2: everybody's list, discuss a little bit, see how we feel
[29:31] Speaker 2: about it. Let's start with Mr. B. Here's your top
[29:33] Speaker 2: 10 players from the 2000s. This is Mr. B's list.
[29:40] Speaker 2: You got Tim Duncan, number one. Kobe, two. Shaq, three. Brown, four. KG, five. D-Wade, six. Dirk, seven.
[29:49] Speaker 2: Allen Iverson, eight. Jason Kidd, nine. Steve Nash, ten. Gil,
[29:52] Speaker 2: to you. Nothing. Nothing? So, Mr. B, what were the
[29:57] Speaker 2: important factors for you in ranking the players on your list?
[30:01] Speaker 9: Well, this is when I really started to understand basketball
[30:03] Speaker 9: and love it the most. So, I mean, Tim Duncan,
[30:05] Speaker 9: what he's done in that decade, back-to-back MVP, you know,
[30:09] Speaker 9: Kobe Bryant went in five, Shaq, LeBron.
[30:13] Speaker 3: You know, there was just, you know, it was just
[30:15] Speaker 3: different back then for me.
[30:16] Speaker 9: Steve Nash, seeing Steve Nash, Steve Nash made the list
[30:18] Speaker 9: because two-time MVP. Nobody was really expecting that. J-Kid went
[30:23] Speaker 9: to the finals twice, back-to-back. AI, you know, got his
[30:27] Speaker 9: team to the finals and things like that. So, some
[30:29] Speaker 9: good memories back then. watching in the early 2000s.
[30:32] Speaker 2: A lot of nostalgia. So, Mr. B, you presented the
[30:35] Speaker 2: factors and reasoning and logic behind your list. I want
[30:38] Speaker 2: everybody on the couch, how do y'all feel about Mr.
[30:39] Speaker 2: B's top 10 players of the 2000s list? Mm. Yeah.
[30:50] Speaker 2: Why Tim at one?
[30:51] Speaker 3: Why Tim at one?
[30:53] Speaker 9: Uh, back-to-back MVPs in that era. Won three in that era.
[31:00] Speaker 6: Mm.
[31:02] Speaker 3: Finals MVP.
[31:05] Speaker 2: All right, Will. You want three? Yeah, in that area.
[31:09] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Next, we'll
[31:13] Speaker 2: move on to the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff. Here's
[31:16] Speaker 2: Kenyon's top ten players from the 2000s. Kenyon, in your list,
[31:20] Speaker 2: you have Kobe, number one. There you go. Shaq, two. Duncan, three. KG, four. Dirk, five.
[31:26] Speaker 2: Allen Iverson, six. LeBron, James, seven. Steve Nash, eight. D-Wade, nine.
[31:32] Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony, rounding out the list. What was the main
[31:36] Speaker 2: criteria for you? We know that you use your own unique,
[31:38] Speaker 2: specific criteria when ranking players. What was your main criteria
[31:43] Speaker 2: you used when assembling this list?
[31:47] Speaker 5: I test for one. Competition that I for two. A
[31:52] Speaker 5: lot of these dudes I played against. Then accolades for some.
[32:00] Speaker 5: MVPs and All of those things and the effect of
[32:08] Speaker 5: what they did when they first came in. So, yeah,
[32:14] Speaker 5: just basketball. Just basketball.
[32:20] Speaker 2: How do you feel about Kenya's? I like it. You
[32:24] Speaker 2: rolling with it?
[32:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:26] Speaker 2: Carmelo. Say it again. Carmelo, I like it. Thought about it. Yeah, no, it's...
[32:36] Speaker 2: Got six years in the deck, yeah, when he did.
[32:39] Speaker 2: That's my favorite, man. I love it. All right, so
[32:43] Speaker 2: now let's move on. So I will read these lists first,
[32:45] Speaker 2: and then we will put them up on the board.
[32:47] Speaker 2: We're going to move on to Swaggy. So, Swaggy, I'm
[32:49] Speaker 2: going to read your list of the top ten players. Okay.
[32:55] Speaker 2: My list got to get read. What? Everybody's list is
[32:58] Speaker 2: getting read. You got Kobe 1. You're like the stepchild
[33:06] Speaker 2: of me, okay? Well, you don't have my love for you.
[33:09] Speaker 2: I'm going to read it first. You can read mine.
[33:11] Speaker 2: We got Kobe 1, Duncan 2, Shaq 3, Brown 4,
[33:15] Speaker 2: KG 5, AI 6, D-Wade 7, The Truth, Paul Pierce
[33:21] Speaker 2: at 8, Dirk 9, and Dwight Howard. Yeah. Um.
[33:30] Speaker 1: I used a little bit of chat GBT, you know,
[33:33] Speaker 1: just to see where I was at, you know, and
[33:36] Speaker 1: I was right on point, you know.
[33:41] Speaker 2: There you go.
[33:41] Speaker 1: I didn't really, I was like confused with should I
[33:46] Speaker 1: put Steve Nash in there just for the two MVPs,
[33:49] Speaker 1: but his numbers wasn't like, didn't stand out that much
[33:53] Speaker 1: for me, so that's why I kind of left him
[33:55] Speaker 1: out and put Paul Pierce in there because he did
[33:57] Speaker 1: win one during that era.
[33:59] Speaker 2: Okay. and just was a bucket really, you know. You
[34:04] Speaker 2: say Steve Nash numbers wasn't like that?
[34:07] Speaker 5: His MEPs. His average was double-double. Led the league five
[34:12] Speaker 5: years in the assistant role.
[34:15] Speaker 2: It was what, 15 and 10? 12. I dig it.
[34:20] Speaker 5: I consider Paul for mine as well. I put him,
[34:25] Speaker 5: but I looked at the numbers and all NBAs and
[34:27] Speaker 5: all that stuff and then It wasn't there, so yeah.
[34:32] Speaker 2: No, I dig it. I say it was out of
[34:34] Speaker 2: Paul and Nat. L.A. from love. L.A. brethren, some love.
[34:38] Speaker 1: L.A., he from L.A., and he just proved he needed
[34:42] Speaker 1: some players.
[34:43] Speaker 2: That's all he needed to win was.
[34:46] Speaker 1: And Dwight, for me, he changed the game when he
[34:48] Speaker 1: came in.
[34:48] Speaker 2: He was dominant. People were scared to go through the paint.
[34:54] Speaker 2: Went to the finals.
[34:56] Speaker 1: Off of, you know, being a live threat and blocking
[35:00] Speaker 1: shots and shit, you know.
[35:02] Speaker 3: Excuse me.
[35:06] Speaker 1: Iverson would have been higher, but he kind of got
[35:08] Speaker 1: injured towards the end of the 2000s, you know.
[35:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. Kobe is Kobe, you know. Of course. Rings, impact, 81, 64,
[35:20] Speaker 2: and three quarters. Everything, so. All right, well, let's move on.
[35:31] Speaker 2: We got Money Making Sonny. I'm going to read your
[35:35] Speaker 2: top ten players list, then we'll put it up on
[35:37] Speaker 2: the board. Why would you do that? Huh? And why
[35:39] Speaker 2: would you do that? I'm going to read it first.
[35:42] Speaker 2: Let the cops digest it. Let him read his own list.
[35:45] Speaker 2: You want to read your list? I don't. Never mind.
[35:50] Speaker 2: So you got number one, you have Kobe, but Kobe
[35:54] Speaker 2: wearing number eight. Mm-hmm. Number two, you have Kobe. Number 24, Kobe. Mm-hmm.
[36:01] Speaker 2: So two Kobe's, first and second. Third, you have Tim Duncan. Fourth, Shaq. Fifth, Iverson. Six, KG. Seven, LeBron. Eight, Melo.
[36:10] Speaker 2: Number nine, Dwight Howard. And last but not least, the
[36:13] Speaker 2: jersey that you're currently wearing in the arena, number 10,
[36:15] Speaker 2: Vince Carter, Vince Sanity, rounds out your top 10 players list.
[36:19] Speaker 2: What were the factors that impacted your decision to put
[36:21] Speaker 2: Kobe twice on your list? Kobe 8 and Kobe 24,
[36:25] Speaker 2: number one and number two. Well, I mean, he was...
[36:30] Speaker 2: Voted as a player of the decade already.
[36:33] Speaker 4: So I wanted to slice up that first five years
[36:38] Speaker 4: of 2000 and the last five years of 2000 because
[36:43] Speaker 4: I got to see both of him. So number eight
[36:46] Speaker 4: was crazy. Number 24 was a little bit less crazy,
[36:51] Speaker 4: but still crazy. Tim Duncan, of course, he did his thing.
[36:56] Speaker 4: Shaq was Shaq for those first six years. Yeah. AI
[37:03] Speaker 4: did it for 10 years. He's probably second behind Kobe
[37:07] Speaker 4: as far as doing it with consistency. KG had that
[37:12] Speaker 4: marvelous run in, I think, 04, 304.
[37:19] Speaker 2: But he was always consistent. Brian's going to be Brian. Mello.
[37:25] Speaker 4: Dwight, I feel like how Brandon said, he's It's hard
[37:29] Speaker 4: to kind of figure out how good Dwight.
[37:33] Speaker 2: Could have been.
[37:34] Speaker 4: But when he was in there for that time, he
[37:37] Speaker 4: was crazy. And Vince was my Michael Jordan before Kobe.
[37:41] Speaker 4: So this particular Vince, he was everything until Kobe got
[37:50] Speaker 4: that mentality and started killing everybody.
[37:52] Speaker 2: It was different. So got to throw Vince in there.
[37:56] Speaker 2: How about us on the couch feel about Kobe taking
[37:58] Speaker 2: the top two spots, number eight Kobe, number one, number
[38:01] Speaker 2: 24 Kobe, number two? Creative. Yeah, that's for sure. If
[38:08] Speaker 2: you was allowed to use your own criteria, you were
[38:11] Speaker 2: not swayed or influenced by anyone else?
[38:13] Speaker 4: I had to change it. I changed the list because
[38:15] Speaker 4: I had them at all 10 spots.
[38:18] Speaker 2: Was it just 824, 824 all the way down? It
[38:20] Speaker 2: was eight at first, like all eight. And then I
[38:22] Speaker 2: switched it to 24s and then I was like, nah.
[38:25] Speaker 2: They're going to be mad at that. Yeah. So, yeah,
[38:29] Speaker 2: I put him twice instead. All right, so last but
[38:32] Speaker 2: not least. Vince Carter? What team he was on? It's Orlando, too.
[38:38] Speaker 2: He was on Orlando after, right?
[38:39] Speaker 3: Nets.
[38:40] Speaker 2: Nets and then Orlando, right? Orlando was in 2000s, right?
[38:45] Speaker 2: Or no. Later. He got old fast. Yeah. He got
[38:51] Speaker 2: old fast. It was like right after 09, though. Yeah,
[38:53] Speaker 2: he got old fast. Last but not least, we have Gil. Gil,
[38:59] Speaker 2: you have your black book with your list in it,
[39:01] Speaker 2: I believe. Yeah, I got my own list. Okay, so
[39:03] Speaker 2: wave me off. I'm more dramatic. At 10. You see
[39:09] Speaker 2: the difference? At 10. Hold on. Let me see if
[39:13] Speaker 2: my mind reader. No. Not. Okay.
[39:17] Speaker 6: I got Jason Kidd. Seven-time All-Star. Five-time All-NBA player. Eight-time
[39:23] Speaker 6: All-Defensive player. Four-time assist champ. One.
[39:30] Speaker 2: ring which he was.
[39:34] Speaker 6: He was at the end of his career so what
[39:36] Speaker 6: year was that huh what year was that you're.
[39:39] Speaker 2: Right Take the ring. I'm just asking, bro. You're right.
[39:44] Speaker 2: You're right. Oh, my bad. No, no, no, no. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah,
[39:48] Speaker 2: you're right. I didn't mean to do that.
[39:51] Speaker 10: I thought you were just reading off his clothes.
[39:54] Speaker 2: Ten. I didn't mean to do that. Jay's kid. Ten.
[39:57] Speaker 2: Got him at ten. Yeah, cool. That's his list. Ten.
[40:01] Speaker 2: Number nine. My bad. Wade.
[40:03] Speaker 6: Even though he had a short list, short because he
[40:06] Speaker 6: got drafted in the middle of the season, but middle
[40:08] Speaker 6: of the decade. Five-time All-Star, four-time All-NBA player, one scoring title,
[40:14] Speaker 6: made the defensive team two times, finals and finals MVP.
[40:21] Speaker 2: At eight, dirt. Eight All-Stars, nine All-NBAs, one-time MVP. That's it.
[40:31] Speaker 2: Thank you. That's it. That's it. Seven, Steve Nash.
[40:39] Speaker 6: Six-time All-Star, six-time All-NBA, three-time assist champ, two back-to-back MVPs,
[40:47] Speaker 6: and those are getting graded on a high grade because
[40:50] Speaker 6: he went to a team that won about 19 or
[40:53] Speaker 6: 20 games, and then he boosted that bitch up to
[40:55] Speaker 6: about 62.
[40:57] Speaker 2: So he does get credit for that.
[40:58] Speaker 6: At six is another person from the 03 draft, LeBron James.
[41:03] Speaker 2: Five All-Stars, five All-NBAs. He won one MVP.
[41:07] Speaker 6: Two All-Star MVP, a scoring title, and Rookie of the
[41:11] Speaker 6: Year in a short period of time.
[41:13] Speaker 2: But that did put him sixth. Five. KG.
[41:18] Speaker 6: Ten All-Stars, eight All-NBAs, won a Defensive Player of the Year,
[41:21] Speaker 6: nine-time All-Defensive team, won him an MVP, and he got
[41:25] Speaker 6: his ass a ring.
[41:26] Speaker 2: Goddamn. The ring don't count. Yeah, it's just a secondary. No. No. Oh, wait.
[41:35] Speaker 2: You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I thought
[41:38] Speaker 2: it was that. I'm like, hey. Oh, wait. My bad, Gil.
[41:42] Speaker 1: And then the guy who changed the culture, got the
[41:47] Speaker 1: WNBA players looking just like him.
[41:49] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Ten All-Stars. Six All-NBAs. Four scoring titles, meaning
[41:57] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Four scoring titles. Two All-Star MVPs,
[42:02] Speaker 2: one MVP. Oh, shit. This boy's stupid. Got him at four. Three. Diesel. Sad.
[42:10] Speaker 6: Nine All-Stars, seven All-NBAs, made the defensive team three times,
[42:14] Speaker 6: three All-Star MVPs, got him a scoring title, got him
[42:17] Speaker 6: four rings, and three finals MVPs.
[42:23] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[42:26] Speaker 6: At number two. He should be number one. But I'm
[42:33] Speaker 6: going to put him at number two. He is the
[42:35] Speaker 6: most decorated player here. I call him Triple Ten. Ten All-Stars.
[42:45] Speaker 6: Ten All-NBAs. Ten defensive teams. That's Tim Duncan. All-Star MVP.
[42:52] Speaker 2: MVP.
[42:55] Speaker 6: Three rings, two back-to-back MVPs, and two finals MVP. He
[43:01] Speaker 6: should be number one, but I got him at two.
[43:05] Speaker 2: Now, number one, obviously, Mr. 24, Kobe Bryant. Number two,
[43:11] Speaker 2: you mean? Number one.
[43:13] Speaker 11: Number two is Duncan. No, I said he should be
[43:16] Speaker 11: number one. But that means he's number one. But I
[43:18] Speaker 11: got him number two. Now, number one. No, I said statistically.
[43:23] Speaker 2: Statistically.
[43:25] Speaker 6: Because he swept the era in every category. So, statistically,
[43:29] Speaker 6: there's nobody better in that era. There's a decade, 10 years.
[43:34] Speaker 2: You got 10 All-Stars, 10 All-NBAs. So, you say there's
[43:37] Speaker 2: nobody more decorated. Why should Tim Duncan be number one?
[43:40] Speaker 2: Because I'm going to my number one. That's why you
[43:45] Speaker 2: let go. Okay, go ahead. So, I said statistical.
[43:49] Speaker 6: So, that means now my bias kicks in and put
[43:52] Speaker 6: number 24. Now, I've seen a bunch of people in
[43:55] Speaker 6: the chat saying the jersey's fake. And that's how I
[44:00] Speaker 6: know you're not a real Kobe fan.
[44:03] Speaker 2: So fuck the fuck off.
[44:04] Speaker 1: If you are a real Kobe fan, you would have
[44:05] Speaker 1: knew this was his freshman year jersey. And then he
[44:08] Speaker 1: changed the 33 for his daddy.
[44:12] Speaker 2: So y'all need to... You're COVID fans. You're COVID Kobe fans. Relax, bro.
[44:18] Speaker 2: This is authentic, baby. Relax. Okay? All right. Now, at one,
[44:23] Speaker 2: comes Bean.
[44:26] Speaker 1: I really don't need to read this, right?
[44:30] Speaker 2: You got to let it go.
[44:31] Speaker 6: We know what this nigga did. The reason I have
[44:34] Speaker 6: him number one is because he started off the decade.
[44:43] Speaker 2: As a.
[44:46] Speaker 6: Sidekick, not my words, the words of the media. Battled
[44:52] Speaker 6: for the Batman spot. Challenged who they call the most
[44:59] Speaker 6: dominant player ever. He challenged him for the crown, won
[45:05] Speaker 6: the crown, got killed by the media that said he
[45:11] Speaker 6: wasn't a winner. He was selfish by running them out.
[45:16] Speaker 6: He can't win without Shaq. And he went on, won
[45:21] Speaker 6: a scoring title after the year that Shaq left. He
[45:27] Speaker 6: didn't average to 30-something like they said he should have
[45:30] Speaker 6: with the bad team he had. He ended up averaging
[45:33] Speaker 6: 35 the following year. Ended up making all NBA first
[45:36] Speaker 6: team on defense like they said he wouldn't have. He
[45:40] Speaker 6: got his team in the playoffs even though they had
[45:42] Speaker 6: him 13. So everything they said about him that he
[45:46] Speaker 6: was going.
[45:46] Speaker 2: To fail, he prevailed.
[45:50] Speaker 6: In that part of his era, that 04 to 07,
[45:56] Speaker 6: 08 is the reason he won decade player of the
[45:59] Speaker 6: year and the reason 95% of all players have him
[46:04] Speaker 6: number one because when you kicked him when he was down,
[46:08] Speaker 6: going through the troubles, He was supposed to fail, and
[46:11] Speaker 6: he didn't. So with his stats, adding on all the
[46:15] Speaker 6: factors that was thrown upon him, he prevailed, and that's
[46:19] Speaker 6: why I have him number one for the decade. Just
[46:24] Speaker 6: in case you do need to know what he did,
[46:25] Speaker 6: 10 All-Stars, 9 All-NBAs, 9 defensive teams, 3 All-Star MVPs,
[46:31] Speaker 6: 1 MVP, 2 scoring titles, 1 Finals MVP.
[46:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, I went through all of that, but I wouldn't
[46:38] Speaker 2: go write all that shit down like him. You know me. Yeah,
[46:43] Speaker 2: I did the same thing, but I wasn't going to
[46:45] Speaker 2: write all that shit down. I read it.
[46:50] Speaker 5: Okay, this person here had paper and messed up like
[46:54] Speaker 5: it was tearing paper up and shit.
[46:56] Speaker 1: You were tearing papers up throughout the process of your
[46:58] Speaker 1: player ranking? Yeah, because he was changing the list. I
[47:00] Speaker 1: was writing them down where they belonged and all shit.
[47:02] Speaker 1: He don't belong there. You got to start the list
[47:04] Speaker 1: over and yeah, so it was.
[47:06] Speaker 2: It was a process, but. And foreign scoring titles. I
[47:12] Speaker 2: didn't need those. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I
[47:16] Speaker 2: didn't need those. I didn't need those. So the reason, like,
[47:18] Speaker 2: so J.K. Go ahead.
[47:20] Speaker 5: So, like, J.K. wasn't on my list, right? Thought about it,
[47:25] Speaker 5: fought for it. Like, yeah, teammates, we did this, and
[47:29] Speaker 5: we had two finals. But if the championship would have been–
[47:35] Speaker 5: On that side of it, then that would have put him,
[47:39] Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying? Just like for my list,
[47:41] Speaker 5: that's all.
[47:42] Speaker 2: You know, it's.
[47:45] Speaker 6: Really impressive, to be honest, what Melo, Wade, and LeBron did,
[47:51] Speaker 6: even though they came in.
[47:52] Speaker 2: Three years into the....
[47:58] Speaker 6: No, they came in four years because it's 0-3-0-4 and
[48:01] Speaker 6: the stuff that they did in that time.
[48:03] Speaker 2: Frame because they don't supposed to make the list. Yeah,
[48:05] Speaker 2: an immediate impact. Right?
[48:06] Speaker 6: So, you know, they don't supposed to, you know, make it.
[48:09] Speaker 6: If you go back to MJ in the 80s, he's
[48:12] Speaker 6: not top three in decade player for that decade because
[48:16] Speaker 6: he comes in in, you know, 84. So that's 84, 85.
[48:20] Speaker 6: You know what I mean? So it's not like they
[48:23] Speaker 6: got to do so much in a short period of time.
[48:24] Speaker 2: I got a question. what kind of tattoo does Shaq
[48:30] Speaker 2: have on his arm Superman what does it say underneath
[48:38] Speaker 2: the Superman tattoo man of steel so are you Batman
[48:48] Speaker 2: and Superman Did Batman get that Superman tattoo? I mean,
[48:55] Speaker 2: I thought he was Superman.
[48:56] Speaker 3: Me too.
[48:58] Speaker 2: So we can't fight for the Batman spot. Yeah, but
[49:01] Speaker 2: they did. Because you're already Superman.
[49:03] Speaker 3: Ain't Superman supposed to be better than Batman?
[49:06] Speaker 2: They're teammates. I know, right?
[49:10] Speaker 6: They shouldn't have... I mean, if one is Superman, they
[49:12] Speaker 6: shouldn't have been fighting for the Batman name.
[49:14] Speaker 4: That's why the media always gets it wrong because it
[49:16] Speaker 4: seems weird if you really.
[49:18] Speaker 2: Look at it. You're like... but he said he was Superman.
[49:22] Speaker 2: The Man of Steel. He had a movie, Man of Steel. Well,
[49:25] Speaker 2: how are we following this narrative?
[49:28] Speaker 4: We're following a dumb narrative that Kobe's robbing when the
[49:33] Speaker 4: dude is not even Batman.
[49:34] Speaker 2: He's Superman. Yeah.
[49:36] Speaker 4: Literally he's literally Superman like that's the real crazy part
[49:41] Speaker 4: about the media I get it the media is doing
[49:45] Speaker 4: dumb shit like saying you're this guy and you're not
[49:49] Speaker 4: you're Superman he's Batman there ain't no Robin.
[49:54] Speaker 6: No I yeah but I get it but back then
[49:58] Speaker 6: you know I guess when Batman and Robin came out
[50:00] Speaker 6: you know the show right it was the hero and
[50:04] Speaker 6: then his great sidekick Right, so just naturally in sports,
[50:10] Speaker 6: every time they seen a great two people, two great players,
[50:14] Speaker 6: they refer to them.
[50:15] Speaker 2: As Batman and Robin. That was just the name of it.
[50:19] Speaker 6: So Kareem and Magic, Batman and Robin.
[50:21] Speaker 2: Pippen and what's the name? Batman and Robin. If Michael
[50:23] Speaker 2: Jordan would have had a Batman tattoo, it would have
[50:26] Speaker 2: made sense. I'm just, yeah. I get it.
[50:29] Speaker 4: If Michael Jordan had a Batman tattoo, we'd be like, yeah,
[50:31] Speaker 4: you Batman Scotty, you gotta be Robin. But this dude
[50:35] Speaker 4: got Superman on his arm coming in. Ain't no way
[50:39] Speaker 4: I'm playing Alfred or Robin. Media, so y'all been fucking
[50:43] Speaker 4: up this whole time. We're going to bring this shit
[50:45] Speaker 4: back up to correct it this time.
[50:47] Speaker 2: Superman is a super dog. He's Superman. And Kobe is
[50:50] Speaker 2: a super dog. Yeah. You know, he had the super dog.
[50:52] Speaker 2: He did have the little super dog. He was an assistant.
[50:55] Speaker 1: But they didn't know.
[50:55] Speaker 2: All right. Call for Kobe and Bark. Carmelone. Carmelone. That's
[51:01] Speaker 2: how y'all treat him, like a dog. He just tag along.
[51:04] Speaker 2: He's a dog. Oh, it's a dude named Andy Bailey.
[51:09] Speaker 4: Andy Bailey wrote the reason why we put Kobe at
[51:13] Speaker 4: 11 and shit.
[51:15] Speaker 2: You ain't got to backtrack, bro. It's your list. You
[51:17] Speaker 2: can do what you want. Y'all do what y'all want.
[51:19] Speaker 4: But it just don't make no sense when you got
[51:21] Speaker 4: a tattoo of Superman and we calling you Batman.
[51:25] Speaker 2: Three had Kobe, two had Tim. Yeah, I don't know. No. No,
[51:30] Speaker 2: you had Kobe. Four Kobes, one. No, one, two, three. Four. So, Mr.
[51:38] Speaker 2: B had Tim. Tim, yeah. So, rest of the couch.
[51:41] Speaker 2: I had Kobe. I said one. I said statistically, like
[51:45] Speaker 2: if we go through stats, no bias. So you really,
[51:48] Speaker 2: what do you want?
[51:48] Speaker 6: No, stats and bias. Like our, this is, these are our,
[51:52] Speaker 6: like you see right there, it says Kobe won.
[51:54] Speaker 2: So if I were to say. So I said.
[51:56] Speaker 1: I got Tim, Tim is really one, but Kobe is
[52:00] Speaker 1: my favorite, so he's.
[52:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, then he's won. Right. So whoever you put number one.
[52:05] Speaker 2: What does that mean? If I say Tim has really won.
[52:10] Speaker 6: Tim has really won. That's always my favorite. Statistically, for
[52:14] Speaker 6: the decade, he has all the awards. His awards, he's
[52:18] Speaker 6: number one. But my bias kicks in and puts him
[52:23] Speaker 6: number one. You know, it's like, that's my favorite girl.
[52:25] Speaker 6: But you marry this one.
[52:28] Speaker 2: Who's your wife? There we go.
[52:31] Speaker 1: For everybody that doesn't understand decade, decade starts because how
[52:34] Speaker 1: the NBA is.
[52:35] Speaker 2: It's 0-9.
[52:35] Speaker 6: It's 99 to 0. Oh, that's crazy. Because we saw
[52:38] Speaker 6: it can't be 2000 to 2001. So because it ends
[52:40] Speaker 6: in the next year, you go 99 to 0-0.
[52:43] Speaker 2: And then 0-8 to 0-9. Just if you're trying to
[52:56] Speaker 2: understand decades. So do you include the whole 99 year
[52:59] Speaker 2: or just that part of the season, the 99-2000 season?
[53:02] Speaker 2: So 99-2000 season. But 98-99 would not be. 98-99 is
[53:05] Speaker 2: the end of the last decade.
[53:07] Speaker 1: So Tim Duncan don't get the championship into the 2000
[53:10] Speaker 1: because he's the last winner of the 90s decade.
[53:14] Speaker 2: What if it's halfway through June, though? That's how that happens.
[53:18] Speaker 2: Just fucking do it.
[53:19] Speaker 1: I'm just fucking around.
[53:25] Speaker 2: No, I think July 1st would be the cutoff. Anything
[53:28] Speaker 2: past July 2nd. Relax, man. Before we do, I want
[53:40] Speaker 2: all you gentlemen to get your phones out. You will
[53:41] Speaker 2: read your list for the next segment. You can go
[53:44] Speaker 2: from 10 to 1. Let's do it. If you'd like
[53:46] Speaker 2: to do an explanation similar to Gil and how he
[53:49] Speaker 2: did it. Don't need to do all that. If you
[53:54] Speaker 2: don't need to do all that, you say, I don't
[53:55] Speaker 2: need to do all that. I can read the list
[53:57] Speaker 2: for you if you like. So let's move on to
[53:59] Speaker 2: the 2010s, which technically starts in 2009, that season, 2009-10 season. Okay,
[54:13] Speaker 2: we're going to start with you this time. If you
[54:14] Speaker 2: can read your list from 10 to 1, descending order,
[54:17] Speaker 2: and if you'd like to provide any context for why
[54:19] Speaker 2: you made the picks you did, feel free to have
[54:21] Speaker 2: at it.
[54:22] Speaker 5: Yeah, so I already stated I did the homework and
[54:28] Speaker 5: wrote everything down and all NBAs, all that stuff is
[54:32] Speaker 5: included and the eye test and all that shit as well. 10,
[54:37] Speaker 5: I got Anthony Davis. 9, I got Giannis. 8, Chris Paul.
[54:43] Speaker 2: Seven, Dwight. Six, James Harden. Five, Russ. Four, Kawhi. Three, KD. Two, Steph. One, LeBron.
[54:55] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty self-explanatory. Got MVPs, finals MVPs. Guys averaged
[55:02] Speaker 5: triple-doubles for season. I could have put Dwight on the
[55:05] Speaker 5: first list. Fought with it. Decided to put him on
[55:10] Speaker 5: this list where he belongs, in my opinion. Anthony Davis'
[55:14] Speaker 5: body of work, all NBAs, all defensive teams, just, yeah,
[55:21] Speaker 5: championship don't count. But what he did in New Orleans
[55:27] Speaker 5: and here's numbers. Giannis, what he did in a short
[55:31] Speaker 5: period of time, the last part of the decade. I
[55:38] Speaker 5: thought he deserved to be on it. Chris Paul is
[55:40] Speaker 5: our best point guard, pure point guard of our– of
[55:45] Speaker 5: that generation. So, yeah, could have put him on the
[55:48] Speaker 5: first one with other guys, with LeBron, Camelo, and D-Wade
[55:53] Speaker 5: and them dudes. But I think what he did in
[55:56] Speaker 5: this decade was impressive.
[55:57] Speaker 2: But, yeah, so, yeah, that's the list. It's a good list.
[56:04] Speaker 2: How does everybody else feel about Kenya's list taking us?
[56:07] Speaker 2: Look at his top 10. 2010. Do I see you smiling? Dwight.
[56:15] Speaker 2: Dwight kind of. Because I was thinking about Laker, Dwight.
[56:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I stopped that 2000.
[56:23] Speaker 2: 2012, I was like, Dwight, I ain't getting nothing more
[56:26] Speaker 2: after that. Made it to the final 2010, 9, 10 season.
[56:30] Speaker 2: So it's. 11, 12, he left. That's memory. Like I said,
[56:34] Speaker 2: I could have put him on the first list. Yeah. But.
[56:38] Speaker 5: The numbers and all that shit. I looked at Amari's
[56:41] Speaker 5: numbers and all that. This man got defensive player of
[56:43] Speaker 5: the year, three of them, all that. So it's hard
[56:46] Speaker 5: for me not to acknowledge the big, get a big,
[56:49] Speaker 5: some love.
[56:51] Speaker 2: So yeah. I was fighting with that Giannis. I was
[56:55] Speaker 2: fighting with that Giannis. I was fighting with that Giannis, boy.
[56:57] Speaker 2: I was trying. I had scratched him out.
[56:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying.
[57:01] Speaker 2: I had scratched him out. And Kane, just for the record,
[57:04] Speaker 2: Dwight made the finals 08, 09. 09. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[57:08] Speaker 2: But you are Kane, so we will pump it up.
[57:10] Speaker 2: He came in real quick at the end. It still counts.
[57:14] Speaker 2: It still counts. Came in real quick at the end. Yeah,
[57:16] Speaker 2: so he came on strong at the end. Yeah, he
[57:19] Speaker 2: got MVP at the end.
[57:22] Speaker 5: I had to put him in there, but no, it
[57:24] Speaker 5: was a few other people that I considered for both
[57:29] Speaker 5: of my lists that had.
[57:31] Speaker 2: Great careers. Just some of the numbers, all NBAs, and.
[57:37] Speaker 5: They're at their highest peak was short-lived, so I kind
[57:46] Speaker 5: of held that against them to a degree.
[57:49] Speaker 2: For sure. All right, well, now let's move on to Mr. B. Mr. B,
[57:53] Speaker 2: can you give us your top ten players list? Go
[57:55] Speaker 2: ten to one for me, if you don't mind. Ten
[57:57] Speaker 2: to one. And if you want to give some explanation
[57:59] Speaker 2: for each of the picks.
[58:00] Speaker 9: No, I'm going to just name them. Number ten, Dwight.
[58:03] Speaker 9: Number nine, Melo. Number eight, Dwayne Wade. Number seven, Chris Paul.
[58:09] Speaker 9: Number six, James Harden. Number five, Russ. Number four, Kawhi.
[58:13] Speaker 9: Number three, KD. Number two, Steph.
[58:16] Speaker 3: And number one, LeBron.
[58:17] Speaker 2: Listen with it. went into the decision-making for your rankings
[58:22] Speaker 2: on your top players list of the 2010s?
[58:24] Speaker 9: Uh, man, it was tough because it was some other,
[58:27] Speaker 9: it was, it was, it was a player that I
[58:29] Speaker 9: wanted to put in there.
[58:30] Speaker 3: I wanted to put Draymond Green in there.
[58:32] Speaker 9: Uh, I just feel like for what he's done and
[58:35] Speaker 9: being part of that dynasty, um, you know, winning defensive
[58:40] Speaker 9: player of the year, three-time all-star, I wanted to put
[58:42] Speaker 9: him in there.
[58:42] Speaker 3: That was a tough one.
[58:43] Speaker 9: Um, but no, everybody, I just feel that in that era,
[58:46] Speaker 9: you know, it was their era, you know, Russ MVP, um,
[58:51] Speaker 9: You know, Mr. Triple Double, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard got
[58:53] Speaker 9: two rings. So, yeah, I feel like that's just my list.
[58:57] Speaker 9: That's what I like.
[58:59] Speaker 2: And the chat has noticed that both you and Kenya
[59:01] Speaker 2: both did not include Kyrie in your list. Yeah, that
[59:04] Speaker 2: was a tough one. Yeah, that was a tough one, too.
[59:07] Speaker 5: Like, I scratched Giannis out and put Kyrie in there.
[59:09] Speaker 5: and then I looked at like one MVP in the
[59:13] Speaker 5: deck and so I had to that wavered it for me, right?
[59:17] Speaker 2: So that's the MVP wavered it.
[59:20] Speaker 5: But no, I scratched Giannis out and put a Kyrie
[59:23] Speaker 5: and was Then I thought about it.
[59:25] Speaker 2: I know Kyrie one of your favorite players. Absolutely.
[59:28] Speaker 5: I struggle with it, but no, he definitely not to
[59:30] Speaker 5: take nothing away from me.
[59:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. Mr. B, you also consider Kyrie on your list. Yeah.
[59:39] Speaker 2: Tough decisions have to be made. It's the top 10.
[59:40] Speaker 2: I understand. Mellow. The mellow one.
[59:43] Speaker 3: It was the mellow one for me.
[59:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, I consider Klay. I consider Kyrie. It's weird. What?
[59:50] Speaker 2: CP made it over Kyrie. Yeah. So why do you
[59:55] Speaker 2: feel like that's weird? It's just a weird feeling. I
[59:58] Speaker 2: just look up. It's just like, damn, Chris Paul? He's
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: on mine as well.
[1:00:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not being biased.
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: Champion, Kyrie.
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: I'm going by Chris Paul.
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: Champion, Kyrie. This is each of your lists. These are
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: your opinions. I'm going by Chris Paul's work. His body work. So,
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: first team. You're in, you're out. You're in, you're out. Okay.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: You're in, you're out. Okay. All right. What? First team.
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: Like I said, I could have put him on the
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: first one, but it wasn't space for him. I had J. Kidd,
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: Chris Paul. You're out. Consistency. But Dwight was only two
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: years of this whole thing. Consistency. I could have had
[1:00:32] Speaker 2: Dwight on the first list, too.
[1:00:34] Speaker 5: I struggled with which list I was going to put
[1:00:36] Speaker 5: him on.
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: That's weird. Number seven is weird? No, not at number seven.
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: Just him in the list. Kyrie not in there, and
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: he in there. But what did Kyrie and Chris Paul
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: didn't do besides win the championship? No. No, I got
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: Melo in one. Just this one. You're a bad motherfucker. Yeah,
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: but I wasn't going to have Melo in one. So
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: what's Chris Paul? I like Kyrie. Oh, you like Kyrie.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: You like Kyrie. Okay, that don't got nothing to do
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: with it. bad. I like Kyrie, too. I love Kyrie.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: One of my favorite players in the NBA. Kyrie, well-liked
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: on this. Like I said, it is weird. I can't
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: wait to see your list. I'm glad you said that.
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: Because I know him. It's a simple list. I thought
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: about Paul George for the list.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: I thought about... I considered a few people.
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: I had my green in mind. I considered Mack. I
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: considered Um, Vince, I considered all of them. No, no,
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: for the other one. For the first one. I'm just saying,
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: these dudes who, yeah, like. He makes me get picked
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: in none of them. Who that? He makes me get
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: picked in none. All NBAs and all that wasn't, it wasn't. Damn. Damn.
[1:01:44] Speaker 4: After all that, all that, all that, you can replace
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: him and you ain't nobody put him in no list.
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: If you put him in, though, you would put him
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: in plug and play, right? After all that. After all that.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: After all that. But look. Not for the decade. But look,
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: this is funny. Not for the decade. For the decade?
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: For what? Just the two years? Yeah, that's all he
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: was saying. Not for the decade. You can put anybody
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: in there at any rate. Yeah, that's what he was
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: basically saying. But Kobe ain't really that good.
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: Hey, your list is going to be funny because I
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: know one thing. You're not going to put LeBron 1
[1:02:18] Speaker 1: in this decade, and I know you're not going to
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: put Curry 1 because Curry just went over.
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: What's his name? You're not going to do that. So
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: your list is about to be funny. Go. Who's next?
[1:02:30] Speaker 6: He's laughing at Chris Paul, and I want to see
[1:02:34] Speaker 6: who has the most.
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: Who has to put one? I could put DeRozan. I
[1:02:39] Speaker 2: see your list. Why would I see your list? I
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: just know he's not going to put LeBron. He's not
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: going to put LeBron. But who?
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: Who are you going to have?
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: KD, Russ. He's going to put somebody. We're going to
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's not number one. Without further ado.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: You're probably the best. He's not going to put Curry.
[1:02:59] Speaker 6: One, not just after this fucking news.
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: If it wasn't the news, then he would have jumped LeBron.
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: He's not going to have the wrong one ever.
[1:03:05] Speaker 9: At the end, do we get to let the chat
[1:03:06] Speaker 9: pick who got the best list or whatever?
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I believe the polls only have
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: four options. There are five of you. All right, well,
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: let's see. But without further ado, let's move to money-making Sunday. Rashad,
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: your list is your list. Your opinion is valued on
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: this couch. It is your opinion and yours alone. Do
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: you want to read your top ten list from ten
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: to one? I do not want to read mine. So
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: you abstain from reading your top ten list. I will
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: read it for you if you would prefer. Go from
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: the bottom. Make it interesting. From the bottom to the top.
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: Ten to the one. Sorry, I don't want to let
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: you do your job. I will try. One and a
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: half more days. So at number ten, we have Kawhi.
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: Number nine, Mello. Number eight, Kyrie. Number seven, Westbrook.
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: Number six, LaMarcus Aldridge. Number five, Kevin Durant. Number four,
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: James Harden. Top three. And number three, Steph Curry. Number two,
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: LeBron Raymond James Sr. Okay. Number one on Shod's list,
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: top ten players from the 2010s, Kobe, 24. I don't
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: hear a round of applause or nothing. God damn.
[1:04:28] Speaker 4: It's the most anticipated and the most disappointing. Y'all niggas
[1:04:32] Speaker 4: are something else. Let's get my money back.
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: God damn. Damn. So, Sean, when you look at your list,
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: how did you come up with the rankings for your
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: top 10 list? 85, yeah. Obviously, you guys all have
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: your own unique criteria. You question. Hold on. I got
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: a question. You question us having Chris Paul on this.
[1:04:51] Speaker 2: I didn't question. See, I said it's weird. I didn't
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: ask a question. Well, it's weird that you got Lamar Clark.
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: That's good. So that's all y'all had to say about me.
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: It's good that I feel weird. But you questioned it, though.
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: I didn't. I said it's weird. But you brought us
[1:05:02] Speaker 2: a question. It is weird. It's weird. It's not a question. No,
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: it's questioned. It's weird. It's questioned. No, not at all.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: It's questioned. Not at all. Yeah. Lamar Clark is over... Yes.
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: Over who?
[1:05:13] Speaker 5: I'm just saying you said our list was weird because
[1:05:16] Speaker 5: we had Chris Paul on it.
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: No, I said it's weird because he don't like Chris Paul.
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: But he's not biased. He's being honest. That's why I
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: was weird. He's being honest.
[1:05:24] Speaker 4: Because he was being biased with his number one pick.
[1:05:27] Speaker 4: We didn't say nothing about his bias.
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: No. What are we doing? Because we had Chris Paul
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: on our list. He's doing the same shit. I'm talking
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: about his number one pick. The couch takes some issue
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: with the Marcus Aldridge seven-time All-Star five-time All-NBA selection in
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: that window. Mm-hmm. Show him his love.
[1:05:43] Speaker 4: I put him on there for a reason. It was
[1:05:46] Speaker 4: him or Amari for me. And I'm not looking at
[1:05:49] Speaker 4: the stat. I'm not the stat man, stat man. I'm
[1:05:53] Speaker 4: not doing stats. I watch this shit, man. I watch
[1:05:56] Speaker 4: the game. These guys were very instrumental from top to bottom.
[1:06:00] Speaker 4: Kobe didn't get to finish this shit. I'm not going
[1:06:02] Speaker 4: to stop him because he got hurt based on any
[1:06:05] Speaker 4: of that. And then you look, Brian killed it. Steph
[1:06:09] Speaker 4: killed it. James Harden killed it. Kevin Durant killed it.
[1:06:15] Speaker 4: I'm putting LaMarcus in front of Russ only because I
[1:06:20] Speaker 4: lost track of the count of what the numbers were.
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: That's diabolical in itself.
[1:06:26] Speaker 4: Because actually I didn't put no numbers on this thing.
[1:06:30] Speaker 4: So he put the shit in the numbers. I didn't
[1:06:32] Speaker 4: ever categorize it.
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: But that's how you sent it to me.
[1:06:34] Speaker 4: I just sent it. I didn't never put one or two.
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: And look, it's empty right here. He put Vince at 10.
[1:06:39] Speaker 4: Backtrack on what?
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: Backtrack on what? What the fuck are y'all talking about?
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: The fact that you got Lamarcus over Russ is crazy.
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: That's all I heard. It's right here, nigga. Ain't no number.
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: What you talking about? There was no numbers. There was
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: an order. He assumed that that order.
[1:07:08] Speaker 4: Do you see this empty spot? That was Vince. He
[1:07:11] Speaker 4: put my Vince at 10. I had Vince higher. So
[1:07:15] Speaker 4: he put the shit in the wrong spot.
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: So let's put your list.
[1:07:22] Speaker 4: I'm going to say what's your number since you didn't
[1:07:24] Speaker 4: want to read it.
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: Let's do your list now. But the fact that you
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: got LaMarcus over. No, no, no. Let's see your list.
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: That's the list. Yeah, that's what you're going to get.
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: We know LeBron wants to go for you. Are y'all
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: disappointed or good?
[1:07:39] Speaker 5: No, it's weird that you got LaMarcus over Russ. You
[1:07:42] Speaker 5: can have LaMarcus on there. That is weird.
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: I really would have Russ way higher, but I just didn't.
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: Like I said, I didn't think of Kyrie. I just
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: threw all the top guys.
[1:07:52] Speaker 4: I thought in the top 10 of the last 10 years,
[1:07:55] Speaker 4: I'm like, these are the guys.
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: I'm going to honor these guys. I'm not going to.
[1:08:00] Speaker 3: One, two, three of them.
[1:08:01] Speaker 2: I'm going to say these are the guys who are
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: better than these guys in this time. It's hard to
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: say for me. I'm not going to, oh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Oh, oh,
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: move him here. No, all the niggas were cold. You
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: didn't want to read it. Okay, got it. Yeah, we're
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: not going to read it. It seemed like the first
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: four looked like it was in order. And then it
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: just got weird. They're just not where you want them
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: to be, and it's going to be okay. No, no, no,
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: I'm just saying. It's just going to be okay. Is
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: six six or six ten? I don't know. Does six
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: look like a six or does it look like a ten?
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: But that's your list. So why are you not standing
[1:08:36] Speaker 2: on your list? I'm standing on the list. Okay. What
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: do we win? Nothing. All right.
[1:08:42] Speaker 6: It's an opportunity to have a great discussion and debate.
[1:08:45] Speaker 2: It's yours. It's okay. Why do I have to backtrack
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: on my list? LaMarcus is nice. He was nice as fuck.
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: He was. All great players. I didn't do the list now.
[1:08:57] Speaker 2: These lists are all based on your opinions. We're not
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: here to judge. We're here to love. Make it a thing.
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: Make it a thing. I'm going to put Batman.
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: I don't do any clipping.
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: Once the show ends, I go to Little League practice.
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: I'm going to put Batman in mine. You know what
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: I mean? Why don't you put Robin in there? Because
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: I don't know who's a Robin. You don't know who
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: Robin is no more. No, I'm saying I don't know who.
[1:09:24] Speaker 2: This is 2010 and 19. Fuck out of here with
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: that shit, man.
[1:09:27] Speaker 6: 2010 and 19, there's only a few Robins that was
[1:09:29] Speaker 6: actually Robins during this era.
[1:09:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. Who was a Robin? Name all the Robins on
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: this list. Um... Uh-oh. Curry was a Robin a couple years.
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: Everybody on that list. Robin. I mean, Russell Westbrook was
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: a Robin a couple years. Everybody on that list.
[1:09:48] Speaker 6: Kyrie was a Robin a couple years. I can't say
[1:09:51] Speaker 6: Mello was.
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, he was. I don't know. Oh, no,
[1:09:55] Speaker 2: he never was. LaMarcus Arches was a Robin. To Dane.
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: To who? To Dane. Everybody became a Robin. I don't know. No. No?
[1:10:04] Speaker 6: No.
[1:10:05] Speaker 2: I don't think so. They played together. I don't know
[1:10:06] Speaker 2: if he was a Robin.
[1:10:07] Speaker 4: Is this the media criteria for Robin or is it
[1:10:09] Speaker 4: the player? Let me get this straight because I'm going to.
[1:10:12] Speaker 6: Try to figure it out. And I think Kawhi was
[1:10:15] Speaker 6: like not even a Robin. He was just one of
[1:10:17] Speaker 6: the players. Then he turned into a Robin. Then he
[1:10:19] Speaker 6: turned into a superstar. So there's only a few guys
[1:10:22] Speaker 6: that didn't play. Like Kobe wasn't a Robin. Bron wasn't
[1:10:25] Speaker 6: a Robin. And Kevin Durant was never a Robin.
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: To Luka. This is not. Everybody becomes a robber. 2010
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: to 19. Everybody becomes a robber. 2010 to 19. I'm
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: saying everybody becomes a robber. This is 2010 to 19.
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: But I'm just saying.
[1:10:37] Speaker 6: I know what you're saying, but this is 2010 to 19.
[1:10:41] Speaker 2: That's all. I'm just looking right there, the year. So
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: Curry was a robber? Two times, two years, yeah. So
[1:10:51] Speaker 2: those championships don't really hold weight for Curry, right? I
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. We don't know anymore. What's
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: your criteria? What? What's your criteria? Kobe doesn't get credit
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: for three championships because he played Robin. What's your criteria?
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: What the fuck are we talking about? Seth Curry doesn't
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: get credit for two championships because he played fucking Robin. Yes.
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: So how is he ranked higher than Kobe? Ask the voters. Yeah,
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: that's what I thought. Yeah, I mean, yeah. You put
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: Curry third, KD fifth, though, so you didn't feel necessarily
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: that way. Nope. I can't see. There you go. You
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: felt Curry was the Batman. I felt there was Superman. Okay.
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: And Batman.
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: Who was who? Yeah, they both. KB was Superman. Okay.
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: For sure. For sure. All right, well, let's move on.
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: We got two more lists to cover. Oh, yeah. But
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[1:11:46] Speaker 2: Help us help you. It's Swaggy. We still have... Your list, sir.
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: Let me find it. Once I got my list. I
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: will stall while you find your list. If you can
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: read it from 10 to 1, and if you'd like
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: to add any context or explainers to any of your selections,
[1:11:59] Speaker 2: feel free to do so. Hey, can I just throw
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: something out there? I'm going to just be honest with you.
[1:12:07] Speaker 6: You know how we want votes? So we can start
[1:12:10] Speaker 6: voting for people's careers. I don't know if all of
[1:12:13] Speaker 6: us deserves to vote. I'm just going to throw it
[1:12:15] Speaker 6: out there.
[1:12:16] Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw it out there, man. I'm
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: just saying, I don't.
[1:12:21] Speaker 1: Know if I want a motherfucker on my career talking about.
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: Lamarcus Aldridge. This is me personally. I just look like, yeah,
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: I'm good.
[1:12:31] Speaker 10: I know this nigga's in there like.
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: Wait a minute, dawg. This one's going to kill him.
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: Very appreciative.
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: Hey, they forgot about him.
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: A good man. I'm just being honest. All that shit
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: you did to the dead kid, it was like, Lamarcus Aldridge. Man. Swag,
[1:12:53] Speaker 2: without further delay, if you'd like to read your top
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: ten list, please go. I think I'm like Jordan Farmer.
[1:12:59] Speaker 2: Saw Jordan Farmer or Summer Lee. He said, what's up
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: to Swag?
[1:13:13] Speaker 6: Can I redo my list, man?
[1:13:15] Speaker 2: I can't have him looking like this, man. Let me
[1:13:18] Speaker 2: do mine. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah. Hell no. I got,
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: I got, I got. I'm going 10 to 1. I
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: got to put.
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: 10 to 1.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: Let me. I'm just saying I got to pee. Go fast.
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: I go fast. I got to put Margot Ginobili in mine.
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: Fuck it.
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: Look at this.
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: For Lamar.
[1:13:32] Speaker 5: They got like three reads. Tony Parker, let me go
[1:13:36] Speaker 5: ahead and get this thing up here.
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: Anywho. Waggy, if you would like to read your top
[1:13:41] Speaker 2: ten list. Come on, man. As picked by yourself. I
[1:13:45] Speaker 2: got Compton at ten. DeMar. Compton? Oh, okay.
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: I got DeMar DeRozan at ten. I got Draymond at nine.
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: Klay at eight. Okay. Kawhi at seven.
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Kawhi at seven, Kyrie at six, James
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: at five, Russ at four, Steph at three, KD at two, and.
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: LeBron at one. I picked Draymond because of impact.
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: He changed the game, was part of the most dominant
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: team in this era.
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: Klay, too. Second greatest shooter we ever seen. When you
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: say change the game, like, what? Yeah, I did.
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: Change the game. Motherfuckers went small. Everybody went small.
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: To do what? I think you mean, like, as far as, like,
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: what he's done.
[1:14:44] Speaker 9: Like, him being a defender and being able to, like,
[1:14:46] Speaker 9: you know, be the anchor of a team and a
[1:14:48] Speaker 9: championship team, I think, on the run.
[1:14:49] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:14:50] Speaker 9: You know, the fact that he can come down, he
[1:14:52] Speaker 9: can make passes, he can do more than just.
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: Stand there at the... Who you talking about? He talking
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: about Draymond Green. Oh. Like, the reason why he has
[1:14:59] Speaker 2: Draymond Green. Four rings. There's a better reason than no marks.
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: So you're going to speak for him because you thought
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: about putting him on your list, too, then. Yeah, I understand.
[1:15:06] Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he was a three-time all-star. So
[1:15:08] Speaker 2: you're going to fucking speak to some of y'all? Dissension
[1:15:10] Speaker 2: on the couch right now. I mean, he was a
[1:15:13] Speaker 2: three-time all-star. He was a defenseman. Man, let's not do
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: that shit, man. Three-time all-star? Let's not do that, dog.
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: We've been so, so, so.
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: We are going to do that.
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: So we're having an honest conversation? So we're having an
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: honest conversation. He's an anchor. Yes. He's a top 75 player.
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: I mean, shit. No, he wasn't. No, he's fucking not. No,
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: he was not. I'm saying he is a top 75 player. No,
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: he's not. Dennis Rodman? Fuck no. Dennis Rodman is. Yeah,
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: he is. Dennis Rodman is. Dennis Rodman is.
[1:15:40] Speaker 6: Draymond Green not in the top 75 list as we
[1:15:41] Speaker 6: know it. One's in the top 75 ones. I'm just saying,
[1:15:45] Speaker 6: what's the difference? One's in the top 75 ones.
[1:15:47] Speaker 5: That's your little cool you want to put him on
[1:15:49] Speaker 5: your list, but that's not acting like y'all niggas, boy.
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: Like what? Like what? He was a four-time champion. He
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: did his thing.
[1:15:54] Speaker 4: So this is how we start to get out of the,
[1:15:58] Speaker 4: I hate your list, I don't like your list.
[1:16:00] Speaker 2: No, it's not his list. It's coming out slowly, though.
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: It's coming out slowly. But Lamarcus is deserving. I said
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: the fact that you had him over Russ. I picked
[1:16:07] Speaker 2: my list, but it's my list. But that man's body
[1:16:10] Speaker 2: of work is what it is. It's cool.
[1:16:12] Speaker 5: A lot of people were left out. His individual body
[1:16:15] Speaker 5: of work stands for itself. That's why I picked him.
[1:16:18] Speaker 2: So that's cool. Let's not act like Draymond was fucking
[1:16:21] Speaker 2: LaMarcus Aldridge. He was doing what? That's not act like
[1:16:24] Speaker 2: Draymond Green. He's not. He's not. He's a champ. At all.
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: That's the only thing he has on him. That's the
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: only thing he has. It's not even close. That's the
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: only thing he has on him. It's not even close.
[1:16:34] Speaker 2: That's the only thing that Draymond has on him. All right, everything.
[1:16:39] Speaker 2: That's the only thing.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: We're talking about basketball here.
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: We're talking about basketball. We're talking about basketball here. What
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: else he can do?
[1:16:49] Speaker 5: I can list 200 people that's better at basketball than
[1:16:52] Speaker 5: Draymond Green right now.
[1:16:54] Speaker 2: Name me 200. Name me 200.
[1:16:56] Speaker 5: Championships aside, we're talking about going out and playing basketball.
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: He was just there. He was just there. He don't
[1:17:04] Speaker 2: know how to win.
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: Draymond Green and Al Jefferson?
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: He just did. Is Draymond better than Al Jefferson? Answer that.
[1:17:13] Speaker 2: Is Draymond Green better than Al Jefferson? Are you talking
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: about buckets or what? Basketball. Basketball, bro. Overall, basketball. Overall. Basketball. Oh, man,
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: stop disrespecting me. Is Draymond Green better than Alton Brand?
[1:17:27] Speaker 2: Stop disrespecting that man, man. Is Draymond Green better than
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: Alton Brand? That's a good question.
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: I ain't going to disrespect him like that. I'm asking
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: a specific question. I'm not going to put down another player.
[1:17:37] Speaker 1: I like Draymond. I like Draymond.
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: Defense player of the year, yes. Yes. Okay, they can score.
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: Is he a better basketball player? I don't need him
[1:17:48] Speaker 2: to do that over here. Is he a better basketball player?
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: I need him to be a 6'6.
[1:17:51] Speaker 1: I need him to be a 6'6 center and make
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: everybody else try to go get somebody like me.
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: That's what I did. There's only one Draymond Green. Yeah,
[1:17:58] Speaker 2: there is. There's only one Draymond Green. That's all there is.
[1:18:01] Speaker 2: If they tried, and nobody came close. Is he better
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: than them guys? Is he better than Al Jefferson? 30%
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: of the championships in that decade. Cool. I'm with it.
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: I ain't taking nothing from him. He did what he did. Absolutely.
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: I'm with him.
[1:18:14] Speaker 5: I ain't never said nothing bad about Draymond Green, but
[1:18:17] Speaker 5: I just want to know, is he a better basketball
[1:18:19] Speaker 5: player than them dudes?
[1:18:20] Speaker 2: That's all.
[1:18:21] Speaker 5: Is Dennis Robinson? Is Dennis Robinson? Is he a better
[1:18:24] Speaker 5: basketball player than Draymond Green? No, Al Jefferson.
[1:18:27] Speaker 2: Then who? Al Jefferson. Is Dennis Rodman? Yes. Okay. I
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: can answer that, yes. What's so far off?
[1:18:36] Speaker 10: I want to know what's so far off besides impact
[1:18:40] Speaker 10: and being cool.
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman is better than Draymond Green? That's what I'm saying. Like, please.
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman's better than Draymond Green? Yes. Y'all crazy. Rough greens.
[1:18:51] Speaker 2: I smell the crash. Too much rough greens for your diet.
[1:18:55] Speaker 2: Too much rough greens for your diet. Too much rough greens.
[1:18:58] Speaker 2: You better go look at what that man did. You're in. Score, pass, rebrand.
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: He do it all.
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: You know, Dennis Rodman won a defensive player of the
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: year coming off the bench.
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:19:09] Speaker 5: You got to look at what this man did. He
[1:19:11] Speaker 5: came off the bench one deep. This man had 16,
[1:19:13] Speaker 5: 17 rebounds in a year. Boy, y'all better stop it.
[1:19:16] Speaker 6: 17 rebounds. But I'm just saying defensive player of the
[1:19:18] Speaker 6: year off the bench. Never happened before. You hear my grades?
[1:19:22] Speaker 2: All NBA twice. Twice. I mean. So you want to
[1:19:26] Speaker 2: look at the numbers? For a guy who was just
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: a defender. And so Dennis Rodman as well. And look
[1:19:31] Speaker 2: at what he did. Defender.
[1:19:36] Speaker 3: I'm rolling with Draymond top 10.
[1:19:38] Speaker 2: Top 10 who? Seven-time rebound champ. Had to go with Melo.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: A lot of rebounds. And why? Yeah, why? Why did
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: you pick Melo? Over Draymond then. Vibes. Huh?
[1:19:52] Speaker 3: Vibes.
[1:19:52] Speaker 2: Oh, vibes. Vibes is a criteria.
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: Mr. B, you have vibes in your crotch.
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: Hey, nah. You niggas over there, dog food.
[1:19:58] Speaker 8: Ain't no dog food.
[1:20:01] Speaker 2: Boy, don't do that. So you speak for me. That's
[1:20:03] Speaker 2: your guy, but she ain't on your list, and you that. Nah. Nah. Nah.
[1:20:18] Speaker 10: Six years in his era number fuckers we talked about.
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: The white plate Numbers. Fucking LaMarcus Harris played four. Like,
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: what are we talking about? Oh, nigga. Played the whole team.
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: I don't remember him after Portland. Who? He was at
[1:20:49] Speaker 2: San Antonio, nigga, with DeMar. You picked him with DeMar. Nigga,
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: he was playing with DeMar. Doing work with DeMar? In
[1:20:55] Speaker 2: San Antonio. Like I said. And that was when DeMar
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: got traded, right? What did you say? She's at the end.
[1:21:02] Speaker 2: That nigga's played four or five years. What did he say? Goddamn.
[1:21:05] Speaker 2: What did you say? What are y'all talking about? Fuck Dwight. Nigga,
[1:21:09] Speaker 2: I love Dwight. He's on my team. Nigga, after Kobe
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: killed the nigga, nobody knew where he was no more.
[1:21:14] Speaker 10: That was 2012, 2013. And you got the rest of
[1:21:18] Speaker 10: seven years after that. Y'all picking dumb shit.
[1:21:20] Speaker 2: Mellow got cut in 2016. Put this nigga on your
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: top 10. Goddamn, you talking about Draymond. What is y'all
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: talking about? Better basketball player. We're talking about basketball. For
[1:21:32] Speaker 2: six years. We're talking about basketball. T-Mac should be on
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: everybody's top 10. One leg mellow, no leg mellow. Why
[1:21:37] Speaker 2: is T-Mac not on nobody's top 10? Better basketball. We're
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: talking about basketball. He's better than everybody on the list. Who?
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: He's better than everybody in the top. Who? From 2000. Who?
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: To 2010. T-Mac, that's what y'all said. Why you telling
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: nobody this? Who said that? Who's y'all? Who the fuck
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: is y'all? Come on, Nick. You got to stay focused, nigga.
[1:21:59] Speaker 2: Who's y'all? Come on. He was right there agreeing with
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: this nigga. Snapping to it. He was right there. What? Agree? No,
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: he was not agreeing. That's why I don't have to
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: agree with you at all. I mean, they both arguing
[1:22:09] Speaker 2: with me. That was on what? A team activity.
[1:22:12] Speaker 5: That people around the league were saying that Matt was
[1:22:15] Speaker 5: better than Kobe?
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: Yes, that was the conversation. That was a conversation. I
[1:22:17] Speaker 2: didn't fucking say I said it, nigga. That was a
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: conversation around the league. That was a conversation. It wasn't
[1:22:22] Speaker 2: no y'all. Kenyon didn't come up with it. Thank you.
[1:22:26] Speaker 2: We didn't come up with the shit. That was a
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: conversation back then. So what? Better at basketball.
[1:22:31] Speaker 6: When he averaged 32 points a game and.
[1:22:34] Speaker 2: Kobe averaged 30, they actually did a poll. It was
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: a conversation. I actually have the poll. It was a conversation.
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: I didn't come up with the shit. But I still
[1:22:43] Speaker 1: wait on my answer. I actually have to pull.
[1:22:47] Speaker 2: I backtrack all the time, man. I'm lying. I don't think.
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: It's your list. It's your list. We ain't done. Fascinating, man.
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: We ain't done. That is our show for today, ladies
[1:22:59] Speaker 2: and gentlemen.
[1:23:01] Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding.
[1:23:02] Speaker 2: You want to read that? It was done by the GMs. Oh, man.
[1:23:06] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, though, so when we say they, it's they,
[1:23:10] Speaker 6: not us.
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: Not us. I didn't come up with this shit. I know.
[1:23:13] Speaker 1: I know.
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: It was a conversation for two, three years. That's all.
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: Short time, but it was. Short time, but it was.
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: Short lived, but it was a thing. This is the GM, right?
[1:23:22] Speaker 6: So back then, Kobe was the number one shooting guard.
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: T-Mac was the number one small forward.
[1:23:28] Speaker 6: And then for one year, one year only, they put
[1:23:31] Speaker 6: them together as shooting guards. Kobe had 52%, and Tracy
[1:23:38] Speaker 6: McGrady had 33% in the shooting guard position. And then
[1:23:41] Speaker 6: the small forward position, Tracy won one. So he came
[1:23:45] Speaker 6: in second place in shooting guards and first place in
[1:23:47] Speaker 6: small forwards. And then what ended up happening is they
[1:23:50] Speaker 6: put both of them at the 1-2 and they put
[1:23:51] Speaker 6: them at the 1-2 because the forward position had cagey.
[1:23:54] Speaker 2: Dirt, and Tim Dunn, which means two of.
[1:24:03] Speaker 6: Them had to come off the bench in the All-Star game.
[1:24:06] Speaker 6: So two of them had to come off the bench
[1:24:08] Speaker 6: in the All-Star game because T-Mac was a forward, so
[1:24:11] Speaker 6: they put him to the guard. So two of those guys,
[1:24:13] Speaker 6: these Hall of Famers, Could be starting in the All-Star game.
[1:24:16] Speaker 6: Then Steve Nash got mad. Like, wait, you can't do that.
[1:24:19] Speaker 6: He's a small four.
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: So then they bumped his ass back to small four.
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: And then KG and Duncan basically came off the bench
[1:24:29] Speaker 1: in the All-Star game.
[1:24:30] Speaker 2: That's what ended up happening back then. FYI. Did all
[1:24:33] Speaker 2: that to get to your list.
[1:24:34] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying. Just giving you history. I know
[1:24:37] Speaker 2: you wasn't in the league yet. We're just giving you history.
[1:24:39] Speaker 2: Segway swaggy.
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: That's a great segway.
[1:24:41] Speaker 2: So, last but not least, Gil, let us get your
[1:24:43] Speaker 2: list of the top ten players from the 2010s, if
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: you don't mind. This is fighting as shit. I'm scared
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: to do my list. That's your list? All right.
[1:24:54] Speaker 6: At ten, I got Baron Davis. He didn't play at all, but,
[1:25:01] Speaker 6: you know, I just want him in there because he
[1:25:02] Speaker 6: looked good. Coming from L.A., family. Shout out to B.D.
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: Boom Dizzy. Number nine, Rashad McKenzie. Number eight.
[1:25:15] Speaker 3: I can't do this.
[1:25:16] Speaker 2: All right, number ten, I got Dwayne Wade.
[1:25:19] Speaker 6: Seven All-Stars, four All-NBAs, one defensive team, won two rings.
[1:25:25] Speaker 2: Got him at ten.
[1:25:26] Speaker 6: Number nine, Anthony Davis.
[1:25:28] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis.
[1:25:30] Speaker 6: Six All-Stars, three All-NBAs, was a three-time block champ, three-time
[1:25:35] Speaker 6: All-Defensive team, and an All-Star MVP. At eight, Kobe Bean
[1:25:43] Speaker 6: Bryant got six All-Stars. Well, he got five All-Stars. Five
[1:25:48] Speaker 6: real All-Stars because they voted him in back then. He
[1:25:52] Speaker 6: only played six games. So basically, six All-Stars, four All-NBAs,
[1:25:57] Speaker 6: made the NBA defensive team three-time One ring, one finals MVP,
[1:26:02] Speaker 6: and he has an all-star MVP in the five.
[1:26:07] Speaker 2: Years he actually played in that era.
[1:26:10] Speaker 6: Seven, which I was having a hard time with because
[1:26:13] Speaker 6: this one, it's, I don't know, Kawhi Leonard. Five all-stars,
[1:26:20] Speaker 6: five all-defense, steals champ, two defensive player of the years,
[1:26:25] Speaker 6: three-time all-NBA, two finals MVP.
[1:26:29] Speaker 2: Two rings. Now, the reason he's seven.
[1:26:31] Speaker 6: Is because a year he won a defensive player of
[1:26:34] Speaker 6: the year, he wasn't even actually a top 20 player
[1:26:36] Speaker 6: in the NBA. Didn't make an All-Star, didn't make an All-NBA.
[1:26:39] Speaker 6: In the finals, MVP and champion he had that year,
[1:26:43] Speaker 6: he wasn't even top whatever, but.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: He comes in at seven. At six, Chris Paul.
[1:26:52] Speaker 6: Seven All-Stars, six All-NBAs, seven-time All-Defensive team, All-Star, MVP. four-time
[1:26:58] Speaker 6: Steel's champ, two-time All-Star assist champ.
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: State Farm comes in at six.
[1:27:07] Speaker 6: At five, Harden, one MVP, seven All-Stars, six All-NBAs, two
[1:27:16] Speaker 6: scoring titles, assist champ, six-man, and he was runner-up three
[1:27:24] Speaker 6: times to the MVP. He should have been four, but
[1:27:29] Speaker 6: for some reason, Russell Westbrook with eight All-Stars, eight All-NVPs,
[1:27:35] Speaker 6: I mean All-NBAs, one MVP, two scoring titles, two All-Star MVPs,
[1:27:41] Speaker 6: two assist champs, and the three times triple-double seasons, it
[1:27:46] Speaker 6: got it for me. At three, the game changer, light
[1:27:52] Speaker 6: and bright, Curry, two MVPs, three rings, six All-Stars, six All-NBAs,
[1:28:01] Speaker 6: and steals champ. Number two, KD. One MVP, two rings,
[1:28:11] Speaker 6: two finals MVP, four scoring titles, two All-Star MVPs. He
[1:28:17] Speaker 6: swept in All-Star votes with 10, and then that's the
[1:28:20] Speaker 6: year he broke his foot after, and then he made
[1:28:23] Speaker 6: nine All-NBA teams.
[1:28:25] Speaker 2: Almost had a perfect sweep. At number one, LeBron James.
[1:28:31] Speaker 6: He swept 10 All-Stars, 10 All-NBAs, five-time defense, went to
[1:28:37] Speaker 6: the finals eight straight times, three MVPs.
[1:28:40] Speaker 2: Three rings with three finals MVPs. And that's how my.
[1:28:45] Speaker 6: Top 10 for that decade ended. And at that 10 spot,
[1:28:51] Speaker 6: I was arguing with myself with Dwayne Wade.
[1:28:55] Speaker 2: It was Dwayne Wade, Dwight, and....
[1:29:01] Speaker 6: It was Melo and Giannis. It was like four people
[1:29:04] Speaker 6: right there at that 10 spot. Like I wanted to
[1:29:07] Speaker 6: give it to Giannis, you know, like had a short
[1:29:11] Speaker 6: period of time and you want to MVP three defensive teams,
[1:29:17] Speaker 6: three all-stars, three all-NBAs, right? So he made impact real
[1:29:21] Speaker 6: fast towards that end.
[1:29:22] Speaker 2: Did the Lakers win in 20th? Yeah, that was the
[1:29:30] Speaker 2: following year. Oh, yeah. That don't count. Yeah.
[1:29:35] Speaker 6: Like I did, I was doing a study about how
[1:29:38] Speaker 6: hard it is if you got drafted. Because it was
[1:29:41] Speaker 6: like something about Chris Paul one year. And then it
[1:29:45] Speaker 6: was like, will he ever make an all NBA decade team?
[1:29:49] Speaker 6: And that was like a thing. And I was like,
[1:29:51] Speaker 6: why would that be a thing? So I looked at
[1:29:52] Speaker 6: the all-decade, how it is, you know, from the 99, basically,
[1:29:56] Speaker 6: to the 99, and I'm like, oh, shit, you get
[1:29:59] Speaker 6: drafted in the middle of the decade, so, you know,
[1:30:02] Speaker 6: you're sitting here at 0-4-0-5, right? And then that next decade,
[1:30:09] Speaker 6: you start winning down, you can basically be a great
[1:30:12] Speaker 6: Hall of Fame player, but not be on the decade team,
[1:30:15] Speaker 6: because most people who are first-team all-decades are coming from
[1:30:17] Speaker 6: the first, the decade before, right?
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:30:21] Speaker 6: So, you know, you're talking about, like, you know, Kobe.
[1:30:24] Speaker 6: I think about Kobe. Even with LeBron, KD, they're in the, right?
[1:30:30] Speaker 6: So they're using those first three years as getting warmed up.
[1:30:34] Speaker 6: Then they're priming at the beginning of a decade. So, like,
[1:30:38] Speaker 6: the top three for this decade will be what? Jokic, Giannis, right?
[1:30:44] Speaker 6: They got drafted. No, not even Joel. They won't even
[1:30:48] Speaker 6: beat SGA.
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: Joel.
[1:30:50] Speaker 6: So now you're talking about guys who got drafted 2014-15.
[1:30:54] Speaker 2: Them years. Right? So that'd be... Yeah.
[1:30:58] Speaker 6: So it's basically like you don't want to just be
[1:31:00] Speaker 6: drafted in the middle of a decade because that's your ass.
[1:31:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. That is unfortunate for the all-decade list. Okay. How
[1:31:08] Speaker 2: does everybody feel about Gil's list? Any issue? Gil, I
[1:31:12] Speaker 2: want to know why'd you put KD over Curry in
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: your expert opinion?
[1:31:21] Speaker 6: In ten years, ten All-Stars, nine All-NBAs. The only reason
[1:31:28] Speaker 6: he didn't make it is because he broke his foot.
[1:31:31] Speaker 6: Four scoring titles. Remember, there's only ten. Four of those
[1:31:37] Speaker 6: went to him. Two All-Star MVPs.
[1:31:40] Speaker 2: All-Star MVP.
[1:31:41] Speaker 6: All-Star MVP. It was important for you. There's only ten
[1:31:43] Speaker 6: of those. You got two of them. And then four.
[1:31:47] Speaker 2: Two rings, two finals MVP, and one MVP. That's why
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: he's second, right?
[1:31:53] Speaker 6: I mean, everybody wants Curry, but, you know, he only
[1:31:58] Speaker 6: made six All-Stars, only six All-NBAs.
[1:32:02] Speaker 2: He got two MVPs. Does a unanimous MVP do anything
[1:32:05] Speaker 2: for you? Yes, MVP. But unanimous, only one in here.
[1:32:10] Speaker 2: Is it? It's an MVP. KD got hurt after that.
[1:32:13] Speaker 2: Is it not way higher than other MVPs? After what?
[1:32:16] Speaker 1: He broke his foot. No, no, he broke his foot
[1:32:20] Speaker 1: in one year, too. That's why he didn't sweep.
[1:32:25] Speaker 2: Oh, 19? I mean, 18, 19. 14, 15 was one
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: of them years. He broke his foot in the finals.
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: Finals after. That's after. No, no, no. That year. That year.
[1:32:38] Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about the whole decade of dominance. So
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: that's why he ranked second. Very spirited discussion and debate
[1:32:48] Speaker 2: about our top 10 players list from the 2000 to 2010.
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: Appreciate you gentlemen taking the time.
[1:32:53] Speaker 6: That Harden, I mean, that Harden could have, I mean, low-key,
[1:32:56] Speaker 6: that Harden.
[1:32:58] Speaker 2: That Kawhi shit.
[1:33:00] Speaker 6: When you're talking about, like, he won MVP, but three
[1:33:05] Speaker 6: years up, he was number two to runner-up.
[1:33:09] Speaker 2: He shouldn't have had three.
[1:33:10] Speaker 6: So that means four, that doesn't mean four years he is,
[1:33:14] Speaker 6: you know, top two player Considerably in the NBA.
[1:33:17] Speaker 2: In a sense. At least two. For sure, two.
[1:33:19] Speaker 6: So I looked up some of those, too. Like, if
[1:33:22] Speaker 6: you didn't win it, where did you fall at? You're
[1:33:23] Speaker 6: supposed to win, but Russ had that. That was the first. Yeah,
[1:33:26] Speaker 6: Russ won one. That was the first triple-double, yeah. Curry's
[1:33:30] Speaker 6: first one, you know, the players voted James Harden should
[1:33:33] Speaker 6: have won that one.
[1:33:35] Speaker 2: The Dame, no, Dwight didn't play that year, and they
[1:33:39] Speaker 2: still came in first. First or second? It came in
[1:33:42] Speaker 2: second in the West. 16 to, yeah. But Curry got it,
[1:33:47] Speaker 2: deserved it, back and back. I just look at the
[1:33:50] Speaker 2: body of work, what someone did in that. Appreciate you, gentlemen.
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: Let's keep this thing moving. We only got two shows
[1:34:00] Speaker 2: left until we go on summer break. All right. I
[1:34:03] Speaker 2: don't want no issues.
[1:34:04] Speaker 6: What's so funny is Curry could probably sneak into all
[1:34:07] Speaker 6: decade this year.
[1:34:08] Speaker 10: Yep.
[1:34:10] Speaker 2: He won one. Yeah, he's still in his 2045. Yeah,
[1:34:13] Speaker 2: he plays. He got a final MVP championship.
[1:34:16] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:34:17] Speaker 2: Some all-NBAs. I mean, he might be scratching for 10, 9.
[1:34:19] Speaker 6: There's going to be a lot of yearls in there.
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:34:21] Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of yearls in that
[1:34:23] Speaker 3: next one.
[1:34:24] Speaker 2: He's going to be scratching for 9 and 10. He's
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[1:35:23] Speaker 2: quick question, man. Scoop it in your coffee like some
[1:35:26] Speaker 2: people on this couch. What? The curve.
[1:35:32] Speaker 6: Do you think the voters.
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: Do you think the voters... Clip it. Regret that finals MVP?
[1:35:46] Speaker 2: I hope they should. Give it to Iggy instead of Steph?
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: They should. They gonna flip it? Iggy dominant performance in
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: the finals? No, I'm just saying, you know, like.
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: Like, it was, I know no one that, like, thinks
[1:35:59] Speaker 2: about history and care, like, you know, it's... Don't do that, Joe.
[1:36:02] Speaker 1: You're telling, what, you said they should flip it?
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, do you think they regret, like, as
[1:36:09] Speaker 2: a voter, you regret it? Yes.
[1:36:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, like, not giving it to Steph?
[1:36:12] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: I mean... Yes.
[1:36:15] Speaker 6: Like, even if you, no, okay, so let's say Kawhi, right?
[1:36:18] Speaker 6: Even with Kawhi's, when I'm looking at his, if you
[1:36:21] Speaker 6: take off the stats, if you take off the names
[1:36:23] Speaker 6: of everybody and you put all the stats.
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: You will pick six.
[1:36:27] Speaker 6: People for finals MVP before you look at his stats.
[1:36:33] Speaker 6: His stats on his team would have been third, right?
[1:36:36] Speaker 6: So I'm looking at somebody like Steph, and I'm like, damn,
[1:36:41] Speaker 6: if you don't win another championship to get a finals MVP,
[1:36:44] Speaker 6: somebody who's been there the whole time, KD goes down.
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: As the franchise finals MVP holder with two.
[1:36:58] Speaker 6: Come in as a hired gun, come in, whoop, whoop,
[1:37:01] Speaker 6: and then bounce, and then he holds that record. So
[1:37:04] Speaker 6: I was just, you know, there'd be things that, you know,
[1:37:05] Speaker 6: I'd be thinking about like the legacy of somebody.
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: You know, like that ass. Well, yo, speaking of legacy,
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: that brings us to our next subject. You've been catching
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: a lot of heat lately for your comments on how
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: Kobe was viewed as a Robin to Shaq's Batman during
[1:37:17] Speaker 2: the Lakers three-peat. You pointed out that this wasn't your opinion,
[1:37:20] Speaker 2: but the narrative from the media and others during that
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: time period, you've had to defend your Kobe-ness repeatedly. Point
[1:37:26] Speaker 2: out you've been a dire Kobe fan since being one
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: of the 1997 slam dunk contests. It wasn't after he
[1:37:31] Speaker 2: won it. It was just the third dunk. He didn't
[1:37:33] Speaker 2: win it yet. The third dunk. He hadn't won yet,
[1:37:35] Speaker 2: but at that moment. You even have a tattoo of
[1:37:38] Speaker 2: him on your leg, as you also pointed out. I
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: don't have a tattoo of him. I have a tattoo
[1:37:40] Speaker 2: of his jersey. Okay. Which would be representative of his aura. So, well,
[1:37:46] Speaker 2: in regards to the whole Robin narrative, we have some
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: video of Kobe Bryant himself talking about the situation of
[1:37:51] Speaker 2: him being labeled as a Robin early in his career. Yeah,
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: a little competitive. Just a little. But, I mean, that
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: was the narrative, though.
[1:37:59] Speaker 12: The narrative was, you know, Kobe's a sidekick, can't win
[1:38:03] Speaker 12: without Shaq.
[1:38:05] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:38:05] Speaker 12: And I didn't hear anybody, not Phil, not Shaq, come
[1:38:08] Speaker 12: out and say, well, that's not true.
[1:38:11] Speaker 2: He could. I didn't hear that. Everybody was quiet. I'm like, okay. Oh, okay.
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: This is the challenge? This is what we're talking about
[1:38:18] Speaker 2: right now? Alright.
[1:38:19] Speaker 12: And so then when I decided to go and do
[1:38:21] Speaker 12: my own thing, a lot of people in the media
[1:38:23] Speaker 12: were like, well, that's very selfish of you.
[1:38:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. As we sit here today, everybody's.
[1:38:27] Speaker 12: Using the argument against me and saying, well, you won
[1:38:29] Speaker 12: your first three with Shaq.
[1:38:31] Speaker 2: Had I not won that two without him, what would
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: you be saying now?
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: Are we on a crisis tour?
[1:38:45] Speaker 2: Are we about to lose our jobs? Like, tell me.
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: Tell me. You got to clear this shit up. I'm
[1:38:53] Speaker 2: tired of this shit, man. Yeah. Fuck. Tell the people
[1:38:59] Speaker 2: you love them, man. Let's go. Not me.
[1:39:04] Speaker 6: I'm just saying when, you know, I think I said
[1:39:06] Speaker 6: the same exact thing. Like, it seems like I copied
[1:39:09] Speaker 6: everything he said. The media did this and then y'all
[1:39:13] Speaker 6: pretended I did it. This is not for me. I mean,
[1:39:16] Speaker 6: since he said it, y'all got anything to say? He
[1:39:20] Speaker 6: said they called him a sidekick. I didn't hear him
[1:39:22] Speaker 6: say A-B or 1-D. I didn't hear him say Batman.
[1:39:26] Speaker 6: You remember, sidekick. He said no one ever called him
[1:39:31] Speaker 6: a sidekick. And I think the Can y'all play again?
[1:39:35] Speaker 6: What word did he use? What was the word that
[1:39:37] Speaker 6: he used? Did he say 1B? A little competitive.
[1:39:41] Speaker 2: Just a little.
[1:39:41] Speaker 12: I mean, that was the narrative, though. The narrative was,
[1:39:44] Speaker 12: you know, Kobe's a sidekick.
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: Can't win without you. You can pause it. What did
[1:39:52] Speaker 2: Kobe say?
[1:39:53] Speaker 6: They said it was, they called him a sidekick. They
[1:39:56] Speaker 6: called him a sidekick. The narrative was, they called him
[1:40:00] Speaker 6: a sidekick.
[1:40:00] Speaker 1: And then y'all rebuttaled and said, no one's ever called
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: him a sidekick.
[1:40:04] Speaker 2: He was next to Jordan.
[1:40:07] Speaker 1: Out yeah like fight it right yeah but they they
[1:40:10] Speaker 1: called him a sidekick.
[1:40:11] Speaker 6: And so when you know y'all jumped on me and
[1:40:14] Speaker 6: said no one's ever said that he was the next
[1:40:16] Speaker 6: coming to Jordan no one ever did that it.
[1:40:19] Speaker 7: Was it was it was it was Shaquille O'Neal let's
[1:40:24] Speaker 7: say we're sorry let's say together let's say we're sorry
[1:40:27] Speaker 7: all right let's sit up together because he needs this
[1:40:29] Speaker 7: apology he needs it Gilbert Hippolyto?
[1:40:33] Speaker 2: From the chat? It's from the chat, too. No, I
[1:40:36] Speaker 2: need the chat. Hold on. I need the chat, too. Hernandez.
[1:40:40] Speaker 2: I need the chat, too. Hippolyto. I need the chat, too.
[1:40:42] Speaker 2: I need the I'm sorry.
[1:40:44] Speaker 6: Damn, they did call him a sidekick.
[1:40:48] Speaker 2: Hold on. Good luck with getting the chat to do anything. No.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Chat is normal. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: Your turn. One at a time. Gilberto. Julio. Hey. No, no, Hernandez.
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: It's Hernandez.
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: It's Hernandez. Middle name. Gilberto Hernandez Arenas.
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry that you... You're a Kobe hater.
[1:41:18] Speaker 2: Gilbert J. Arenas. Let me get over there. Get a
[1:41:22] Speaker 2: hug from him.
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: Put Kobe down so many times.
[1:41:28] Speaker 13: Now he changed the narrative. I'm This is the narrative.
[1:41:33] Speaker 13: I'm going to fight the narrative now. I'm arguing against
[1:41:37] Speaker 13: the narrative. I put Kobe down so many times, but.
[1:41:40] Speaker 2: Now I'm fighting against the narrative. This was the narrative.
[1:41:44] Speaker 2: Just tell him I'm sorry. Do I have to? No.
[1:41:50] Speaker 2: I feel like a girl on his prom date. You
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: waiting to be asked for the prom.
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: My dad's watching this right now.
[1:41:56] Speaker 4: The last time I had to do some shit like this,
[1:41:59] Speaker 4: I was 13.
[1:42:00] Speaker 2: I was picking on the ugly girl and he made
[1:42:03] Speaker 2: me give her a hug. Did you like her though?
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: I ran from her. You had to give the ugly
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: girl a hug. And my dad. He had to whoop
[1:42:08] Speaker 2: my ass and make me hug her.
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: I was running. I refused to do this. But we're
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: going to have to apologize to Gilbert.
[1:42:18] Speaker 2: Because....
[1:42:21] Speaker 4: Sidekick, Scottie Pippen, Shaq Tattoo, Superman, Batman, you know what
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: I'm saying?
[1:42:28] Speaker 2: It's misunderstood. Energy. So he needs this. He needs it.
[1:42:34] Speaker 4: That's why I'm not going to give it to him.
[1:42:36] Speaker 4: Don't give him shit. Don't give these motherfuckers nothing. You
[1:42:40] Speaker 4: don't respect that man like that. Fuck Gilbert Hernandez. Pour
[1:42:45] Speaker 4: out the water for my mans up there.
[1:42:48] Speaker 2: We out here. When I'm gone, they be talking again.
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: Country boy is nothing, man.
[1:42:53] Speaker 6: This is how the hoes feel when you leave them
[1:42:57] Speaker 6: at the altar.
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: When you got to go back home. Maybe I eat
[1:43:00] Speaker 2: your cold bread. I thought I signed the prenup. No,
[1:43:03] Speaker 2: we'll sit you back. Hey, don't slip on that water, please.
[1:43:06] Speaker 2: I promise I ain't. It'll be all right. Your health
[1:43:09] Speaker 2: is important. You're tough, right? Tough. Kissing babies. Yeah, niggas
[1:43:13] Speaker 2: get shot every day, D. Niggas die every day. Where's
[1:43:17] Speaker 2: some more Kobe's tomorrow? Do you feel vindicated? Where's some
[1:43:19] Speaker 2: more Kobe's tomorrow? We're another Kobe jerk. They gonna know
[1:43:23] Speaker 2: you like them then. Do you feel vindicated for all
[1:43:26] Speaker 2: the slander that you got for merely conveying the areas
[1:43:28] Speaker 2: that were there to be done? I mean, I'm just...
[1:43:32] Speaker 2: I'm just.
[1:43:33] Speaker 1: I always used they and them.
[1:43:36] Speaker 2: I don't know how that turned into me. But they them.
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: Those are the particular pronouns used. We was there in
[1:43:45] Speaker 2: real time where they was doing it. Ah, damn.
[1:43:48] Speaker 5: I played against them motherfuckers, man.
[1:43:55] Speaker 2: It was hard times out there. Very hard times. So, Gil,
[1:43:59] Speaker 2: glad you had that moment. Let's keep things moving. Everybody
[1:44:01] Speaker 2: in the chat, please offer your apologies to Gil one
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: at a time. Hey, you know what's so funny about that?
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: You know what's so funny about that? The, uh, The
[1:44:12] Speaker 2: championship after the O2. And then Shaq said, Superman, you're Batman.
[1:44:23] Speaker 2: To then fight him for the Batman name. The next year.
[1:44:28] Speaker 2: Now that was... Gave him the title to then fight it.
[1:44:36] Speaker 6: And then when you couldn't keep it no more, you
[1:44:39] Speaker 6: wanted to be traded. People don't realize Shaq asked for
[1:44:45] Speaker 6: the trade to go to Miami because he didn't want
[1:44:48] Speaker 6: to publicly be number two. He ended up being fine
[1:44:52] Speaker 6: with being number two. But then they said, we need
[1:44:55] Speaker 6: you to take a pay cut like number two. And
[1:44:57] Speaker 6: then I was like, I'm not taking a pay cut also.
[1:45:00] Speaker 6: Now you're asking for too much. Now you're asking for
[1:45:01] Speaker 6: too much. So he was like, trade me. And that's
[1:45:03] Speaker 6: how that happened. Kobe, I mean, Shaq asked to be traded?
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: So basically, it was the war of it's his team.
[1:45:12] Speaker 2: And Shaq's like, nah, it ain't like that.
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: And he was like, well, it is. And then he
[1:45:16] Speaker 1: was like, well, just tell him it is his. And
[1:45:19] Speaker 1: we're going to push the offense through him.
[1:45:21] Speaker 6: And then Shaq was like, fine. And then there was the,
[1:45:27] Speaker 6: all right, we need you to take $ 10 million less.
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, hell no.
[1:45:34] Speaker 6: But it was a little thing. Like, just speaking for how... Yeah,
[1:45:38] Speaker 6: you can find it. Yes, you can find it. You
[1:45:40] Speaker 6: can find it.
[1:45:41] Speaker 2: Don't stop. He's trapping you, bro. He's already got that information.
[1:45:45] Speaker 2: He already has it ready.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: When he asks you a question, I didn't want you
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: to fall in the trap.
[1:45:49] Speaker 2: I didn't want you to fall in. Get the crisis out.
[1:45:51] Speaker 2: I didn't want you to fall into it, though. Yeah,
[1:45:54] Speaker 2: right there.
[1:45:54] Speaker 8: I got him explaining everything to me. He explained it
[1:46:06] Speaker 8: to me. He explained it to me. Just so you know,
[1:46:09] Speaker 8: he explained everything to me. He gave you permission to
[1:46:15] Speaker 8: use that?
[1:46:16] Speaker 2: What's so funny is he told me I can use it.
[1:46:18] Speaker 6: He said I can use the video and I just
[1:46:20] Speaker 6: told him I don't want to put it out.
[1:46:22] Speaker 2: I just wanted it for myself to just make sure
[1:46:24] Speaker 2: I just wasn't tripping. I just wasn't tripping. So Gil,
[1:46:28] Speaker 2: we asked the chat We said, chat, do you apologize
[1:46:31] Speaker 2: to Gil? 50% said, yes, we're sorry. 50?
[1:46:35] Speaker 1: But the other 50 said.
[1:46:36] Speaker 2: Hell no.
[1:46:36] Speaker 6: Okay, if you get to 51, I'm giving out $ 1, 000.
[1:46:40] Speaker 6: You're giving out money for apologies?
[1:46:44] Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
[1:46:48] Speaker 6: I got a, hey, somebody got a bend. He didn't
[1:46:51] Speaker 6: want a bend on the knee.
[1:46:53] Speaker 2: Then I'm going to make the chat bend on me.
[1:46:55] Speaker 2: If you want $ 1, 000 for me, get on your goddamn knees, chat.
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: You need the chat to get on their knees.
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: Get off your knees.
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: The numbers have not shifted as of yet.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: The chat said we don't need that money.
[1:47:07] Speaker 6: Wait, don't they? Some of y'all got rent. Rent coming up.
[1:47:11] Speaker 6: It's 50-50 now, dude. Valentine's.
[1:47:13] Speaker 2: Valentine's. Some coming up. Come on. Come on. Valentine's.
[1:47:18] Speaker 5: I just said you got to start the shit up.
[1:47:22] Speaker 2: There's birthdays. There's bathing suits. There's back to school coming up.
[1:47:26] Speaker 2: Some of y'all got kids. Some of y'all got child support.
[1:47:29] Speaker 2: So Gil, I have some news to announce. 51% of
[1:47:32] Speaker 2: the chat is now saying yes.
[1:47:33] Speaker 1: Hell yeah, something right there.
[1:47:35] Speaker 2: I'll give it $ 1, 000 at the end. Yeah. I knew
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: y'all believed in me.
[1:47:40] Speaker 1: It's now 52%. It's now jumped to 53%.
[1:47:44] Speaker 2: I thought you was giving that $ 1, 000 to everybody.
[1:47:46] Speaker 4: Woo.
[1:47:48] Speaker 1: $ 1, 000 to everybody.
[1:47:50] Speaker 2: Woo. Spill it. Get out of your chair, Gil, just quick. Yeah,
[1:47:53] Speaker 2: I got it for 3%. See, that's why I love that, man.
[1:47:58] Speaker 2: The fan is still working. And I ain't even had
[1:48:01] Speaker 2: to tell them. They just did it on their own.
[1:48:04] Speaker 2: I said I ain't have to tell them. They just
[1:48:05] Speaker 2: did it on their own. They just did it on
[1:48:08] Speaker 2: their own. The number has now jumped to 54% of that.
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: Good chat. Mobilize. All right, let's keep this thing moving.
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: So we talked recently about Andy Roddick. saying tennis players
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: are the best athletes in the world following the record-setting
[1:48:23] Speaker 2: French Open championship match which lasted more than five hours. Naturally,
[1:48:27] Speaker 2: some on this couch disagree with Andy's opinion. And Gil,
[1:48:29] Speaker 2: you offered this response.
[1:48:31] Speaker 6: When you say best athletes, it means you take everybody
[1:48:36] Speaker 6: out of their elements and then you put him in
[1:48:41] Speaker 6: other elements to see who can actually still compete at.
[1:48:49] Speaker 2: A decent level.
[1:48:51] Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure you can take every basketball player.
[1:48:58] Speaker 2: And they can compete.
[1:48:59] Speaker 1: Probably not with him, of course, but they can compete
[1:49:01] Speaker 1: in tennis.
[1:49:02] Speaker 2: I mean, actually, when we retire from our sport, we
[1:49:06] Speaker 2: play that. Yep. There's no way he can retire from
[1:49:10] Speaker 2: tennis and play basketball. Oh, no.
[1:49:13] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:49:13] Speaker 2: He would get cooked? I mean, he would get cooked
[1:49:16] Speaker 2: even if.
[1:49:16] Speaker 6: He was young because that sport, you have to learn
[1:49:20] Speaker 6: it from an earlier age.
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:49:23] Speaker 6: So there's nothing they have on us. We have eye,
[1:49:26] Speaker 6: hand coordination. We play against other bodies. This is like
[1:49:30] Speaker 6: shadow boxing in a sense.
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: Okay. So that was your response to Andy Roddick. Well,
[1:49:36] Speaker 2: Andy Roddick saw that clip, Gil. He did other sports.
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: During a recent episode of his Serve podcast, Roddick addressed Gil,
[1:49:42] Speaker 2: the rest of Gil's arena. Here's what he had to say.
[1:49:44] Speaker 2: I'll throw something back at them.
[1:49:47] Speaker 14: I'll throw out a challenge. I'll play them left-handed in
[1:49:50] Speaker 14: tennis and they won't get a game.
[1:49:53] Speaker 2: I like this. We're going to send this to Josiah.
[1:49:55] Speaker 14: I'll play them left-handed and they won't get a game.
[1:49:58] Speaker 2: Best case scenario, this turns into a Chuckers Club exclusive
[1:50:02] Speaker 2: of you just playing different pro athletes. at their sport. Like,
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: we could take this really far.
[1:50:07] Speaker 14: Sight unseen.
[1:50:10] Speaker 2: I'll do that.
[1:50:10] Speaker 14: I get one serve underhand right-handed and I can't use
[1:50:15] Speaker 14: any spins.
[1:50:16] Speaker 2: I just have to put it in the court and
[1:50:16] Speaker 2: then I'll play lefty. Then you'll play lefty the whole time? Yeah.
[1:50:19] Speaker 2: And then we'll win the game. I will. I'll take that.
[1:50:22] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:50:22] Speaker 4: And then you gotta come play basketball. We'll win the game. Yeah,
[1:50:25] Speaker 4: then you gotta come play. Then you gotta come play basketball.
[1:50:26] Speaker 4: I'm gonna take that serve. I'm gonna take that serve
[1:50:29] Speaker 4: and I'm, hey, I'm gonna give my point across. You
[1:50:32] Speaker 4: gotta win the game, though.
[1:50:34] Speaker 2: Do we have to win the game or do we
[1:50:35] Speaker 2: just got to return to serve? We got to win
[1:50:37] Speaker 2: the game. He said we got to return to serve.
[1:50:39] Speaker 1: He said we got to win the game and just
[1:50:41] Speaker 1: return to serve.
[1:50:41] Speaker 2: Now there's a point. Hold on. He said he'll... I
[1:50:45] Speaker 2: don't know how good that left hand is. He might
[1:50:47] Speaker 2: be tricking you.
[1:50:47] Speaker 6: No, no, no.
[1:50:48] Speaker 1: He wanted him in for this.
[1:50:49] Speaker 2: No, no, no. And the most... He wanted him in. Yeah.
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: He motherfucking going to be backhanding the shit out of you.
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: Backhanding the shit out of that motherfucker. He going to
[1:50:56] Speaker 2: be backhanding the shit out of your ass. Every single time.
[1:50:58] Speaker 2: Every single time.
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: I had it so just if he were to listen
[1:51:08] Speaker 1: to the whole thing and somebody would have sent him.
[1:51:10] Speaker 2: The whole clip I'm with I know he said he
[1:51:15] Speaker 2: respects you can he actually tucked his chain in no.
[1:51:18] Speaker 5: No no Out of respect Yeah, so my thing was
[1:51:24] Speaker 5: I The words that Gil used was I disagree with
[1:51:29] Speaker 5: because Gil said when we're done with our sport, we
[1:51:32] Speaker 5: can go over to theirs, which I don't agree with.
[1:51:36] Speaker 2: To play their sport?
[1:51:37] Speaker 5: You said when we're done, we can go dominate their sport.
[1:51:40] Speaker 6: Not play professional tennis.
[1:51:42] Speaker 2: Just play tennis. You're not professional tennis.
[1:51:47] Speaker 5: But you said dominate. Just go to the, just go
[1:51:51] Speaker 5: to the rec center and nominate somebody?
[1:51:53] Speaker 2: Who? An 85-year-old player? Nah. Nah. Hell nah. 85, them
[1:51:58] Speaker 2: old motherfuckers can play. For sure. Every time, they playing
[1:52:03] Speaker 2: that shit, handball in the gym and shit.
[1:52:05] Speaker 5: Like, I'm with, like, so we had the conversation and
[1:52:07] Speaker 5: I was asking Gil, have you ever went and saw the,
[1:52:11] Speaker 5: when he was.
[1:52:11] Speaker 2: At his height? 100 miles an hour, 110 miles an hour.
[1:52:14] Speaker 5: Like, I went to the ATP in Cincinnati when he
[1:52:17] Speaker 5: was at his height. Them dudes and And I'm watching
[1:52:19] Speaker 5: this shit, and I'm like, yo, the way they moving,
[1:52:22] Speaker 5: stopping on the dime, turning, the way that ball moving,
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: the way they controlling it, it's all kind of shit
[1:52:27] Speaker 5: that go with it. And I'm like, ain't no way. Like,
[1:52:30] Speaker 5: we got hand-eye coordination, all that shit, great. But them
[1:52:32] Speaker 5: dudes have perfected that shit. Man, hell no. At their
[1:52:37] Speaker 5: worst year, at Andy Roddick's worst year of his career.
[1:52:42] Speaker 5: At our best year of our NBA career, we couldn't
[1:52:45] Speaker 5: do nothing with that.
[1:52:46] Speaker 2: Even if he's playing left-handed? I don't even.
[1:52:48] Speaker 6: But this is not even a question of... We're not
[1:52:51] Speaker 6: saying who is the hardest sport.
[1:52:53] Speaker 2: No. Right? Can I beat you left-handed? Fuck no. That's
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: like saying, can he beat that man?
[1:53:00] Speaker 6: If I play you left-handed with one knee in my
[1:53:03] Speaker 6: ankle brace, nigga, you're.
[1:53:04] Speaker 2: Not beating me in my sport. That doesn't determine who
[1:53:08] Speaker 2: is the best athlete. So he's, like I said, he's
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: going to be biased. No, but we're talking about athletes.
[1:53:13] Speaker 2: He's not saying tennis.
[1:53:14] Speaker 1: He's saying we're not saying.
[1:53:16] Speaker 2: He's saying tennis. So what I'm saying. Athletes period.
[1:53:18] Speaker 6: Cool.
[1:53:19] Speaker 2: Now let's say you take him.
[1:53:22] Speaker 6: I take Caruso and say, we're going to take you
[1:53:25] Speaker 6: two and run a 100-yard dash.
[1:53:27] Speaker 2: That's athletic. Yes. He's not beating Caruso. How do you
[1:53:30] Speaker 2: know that? We don't know. You're right. We know. You
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: don't know that. You're right. Because you haven't seen this
[1:53:36] Speaker 2: man run. Okay, now, we have seen him run.
[1:53:38] Speaker 6: But let's just say they already did a 100-yard dash.
[1:53:41] Speaker 2: Who, him? Yeah.
[1:53:42] Speaker 6: Now, let's say they all do that. Now, let's say
[1:53:45] Speaker 6: they did a jumping. Him and Caruso, who wins that?
[1:53:48] Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay.
[1:53:49] Speaker 1: Now, let's say they had to do some type of activity.
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: Of living weights. Weight lifting, yeah. Boxing. Yeah. Wrestling. Yeah.
[1:53:59] Speaker 2: Andy Roddick has hands. Football, whatever.
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: Outside of your sport, if we take 100 tennis players
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: and 100 just basketball, football, and we did anything.
[1:54:10] Speaker 6: But ours, where do everybody ranks? Now, that determines who
[1:54:14] Speaker 6: is the best athlete. Are you taking the best athlete
[1:54:17] Speaker 6: in the sport? Yeah, we can take the best athlete
[1:54:19] Speaker 6: in every sport. So the best athlete in that sport
[1:54:22] Speaker 6: is black.
[1:54:22] Speaker 2: Quick feet. Of course. It's the same thing. The best black.
[1:54:25] Speaker 5: So the best athlete in that sport is probably black,
[1:54:27] Speaker 5: so therefore he can compete.
[1:54:29] Speaker 2: So what are you saying?
[1:54:30] Speaker 6: But in every, we said we take the top 10
[1:54:33] Speaker 6: in every sport.
[1:54:34] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:54:34] Speaker 6: And then we say we're going to do a 100-yard dash.
[1:54:38] Speaker 6: Where's the tennis runners gonna run?
[1:54:40] Speaker 2: We don't know. Football, whatever.
[1:54:42] Speaker 6: You just do all these sports and we see where
[1:54:44] Speaker 6: your body measures at.
[1:54:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Sounds like a battle mode. How about this? Like
[1:54:48] Speaker 2: I said, I told you I'm a bitch. I googled
[1:54:54] Speaker 2: top-tier tennis players in high school. Mm-hmm. The top tier. One, two, three. Actually,
[1:55:00] Speaker 2: it wasn't even high school. They were 21, 22. Mm-hmm.
[1:55:02] Speaker 2: And they were doing agility drills.
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:55:08] Speaker 6: My seven year old, I mean not my seven year old,
[1:55:11] Speaker 6: my seventh grader was jumping higher, running faster, fast twitch
[1:55:15] Speaker 6: was better. Then 21 year old pro, Tennis players.
[1:55:21] Speaker 2: They don't have to jump like that, though. I know
[1:55:23] Speaker 2: they don't jump. They don't jump. They don't run out.
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: They got fast twitch left and right. We're not talking.
[1:55:30] Speaker 6: About the skill that you're having with your eye. Tennis
[1:55:35] Speaker 6: is one of the hardest. Just like hockey is one
[1:55:37] Speaker 6: of the fucking hardest. You can't just pick that shit
[1:55:40] Speaker 6: up at 20 years old. It's a detailed sport.
[1:55:43] Speaker 5: So what tests are they doing, though, Gil, that your seven-year-old,
[1:55:46] Speaker 5: that these professional athletes have done?
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: They're doing shuttle drills. Shuttle drills.
[1:55:52] Speaker 6: They're doing the jumping verticals.
[1:55:55] Speaker 2: Jumping on boxes. They're doing all the stuff we do
[1:55:58] Speaker 2: in the summer. They're doing all the combine stuff.
[1:56:02] Speaker 6: So if you want to rank your combine against other athletes, nigga,
[1:56:06] Speaker 6: you're not even close.
[1:56:07] Speaker 2: IMG. You already know I called down there and asked them.
[1:56:09] Speaker 2: You have to because they are athletes. Tennis players are
[1:56:18] Speaker 2: real because they got Gale Monfields. They got a bunch
[1:56:21] Speaker 2: of guys, Francis. They don't have to run that fast.
[1:56:25] Speaker 2: They have to be quick left to right. Even the guy, Gale,
[1:56:31] Speaker 2: he's an athletic numbering. That's what we all look like.
[1:56:37] Speaker 2: If you were to take Andy in comparison to him,
[1:56:40] Speaker 2: you would say, we don't know what Andy can do
[1:56:42] Speaker 2: because we haven't seen him. But in the assumption... is.
[1:56:47] Speaker 4: The tennis players don't do enough athletic shit for us
[1:56:50] Speaker 4: to believe that they can beat us. They don't move
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: in a big enough space.
[1:56:56] Speaker 2: We don't know the other sports that they're playing.
[1:56:59] Speaker 6: They could have been hoopers all the way up this end.
[1:57:03] Speaker 5: Tennis was their major sport. He could have all the
[1:57:05] Speaker 5: same quick twitch shit that everybody else had. He just
[1:57:08] Speaker 5: happened to be dominant at fucking tennis and he stuck
[1:57:10] Speaker 5: with it.
[1:57:12] Speaker 2: And other people as well. And other people. I don't
[1:57:15] Speaker 2: know other people.
[1:57:17] Speaker 1: You really think can beat you in any other sport
[1:57:21] Speaker 1: is sick.
[1:57:22] Speaker 2: I'm being honest. That is sickening. I'm being honest. We
[1:57:25] Speaker 2: put us out here in junk and shit like that.
[1:57:28] Speaker 2: If then, yes. If we just said, hey, all day.
[1:57:32] Speaker 6: No, no, what I'm saying is if we just said,
[1:57:36] Speaker 6: all right, if we just tell all tennis coaches to
[1:57:40] Speaker 6: get just raw bodies, just raw bodies to sit here
[1:57:44] Speaker 6: and say, this is the body I'm going to train.
[1:57:46] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:57:47] Speaker 6: The body I want to train, like, I want to
[1:57:49] Speaker 6: make this the number one player. What body types you think?
[1:57:52] Speaker 6: Football players. 6'6, football, like your wide receivers.
[1:57:56] Speaker 5: They're going to go for 6'6, 7-foot wingspans, mobility, athlete.
[1:58:01] Speaker 2: You're going to go for that body type. Of course.
[1:58:04] Speaker 4: And that body type is a wide receiver because that's
[1:58:06] Speaker 4: what our body type is.
[1:58:07] Speaker 2: And so you're not going to go for his type.
[1:58:09] Speaker 2: I mean, that's the skill. But if you're saying I
[1:58:11] Speaker 2: get to.
[1:58:11] Speaker 1: Pick a body like, all right, I need to make
[1:58:13] Speaker 1: a player and I'm going to perfect this body type,
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: you're picking.
[1:58:17] Speaker 2: A basketball player or a football wide receiver. Okay. Because
[1:58:21] Speaker 2: of the height and explosiveness. Okay. And he could have
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: did all eight. That's what athletic is.
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: He said he played high school basketball.
[1:58:27] Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Most athletic. Andy was exceptional
[1:58:30] Speaker 2: because he came in as an athlete. That's right. He
[1:58:33] Speaker 2: would hit that bitch 120. He could move. I'm talking
[1:58:37] Speaker 2: about not him. I'm talking about as a group, as
[1:58:39] Speaker 2: a whole. Yeah. We're talking about athleticism. Just the body itself. Yeah.
[1:58:44] Speaker 2: Not them in their sport. Like, you know, I'm... Well, actually,
[1:58:48] Speaker 2: you may not remember, but you actually played against Andy
[1:58:50] Speaker 2: Roddick at the Easter Classic in Las Vegas when you
[1:58:53] Speaker 2: were pumping run. He gave you $ 30, 000. Cap! I played
[1:58:55] Speaker 2: him in basketball? No, I'm just fucking kidding. Oh, I
[1:58:58] Speaker 2: didn't see. I had to give him. I had to
[1:59:01] Speaker 2: give him. I know he was. Took him through the hole.
[1:59:03] Speaker 2: Took him through the hole. I know his body wasn't
[1:59:05] Speaker 2: big enough to take him through the hole. Hold on, y'all.
[1:59:07] Speaker 2: Hold on one second.
[1:59:08] Speaker 5: Hey, on three, everybody laughs so Nick can get his
[1:59:11] Speaker 5: Rough Greens joke out.
[1:59:12] Speaker 2: Go. Go ahead, Rough Greens.
[1:59:13] Speaker 1: Go, so you can get your Rough Greens. I like
[1:59:15] Speaker 1: your Rough Greens.
[1:59:15] Speaker 2: Because you didn't suggest twice already. Got to count it. Go.
[1:59:18] Speaker 2: So one, two, three. Go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Rough Greens. Yeah,
[1:59:24] Speaker 2: that shit got him. Like, you didn't try it twice.
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: Are you up there, green.com slash arena?
[1:59:30] Speaker 2: Like, just putting it in his coffee. Like, you didn't
[1:59:33] Speaker 2: try it twice, bro. Like, God damn, it ain't funny. Like,
[1:59:38] Speaker 2: it ain't funny, bro.
[1:59:39] Speaker 1: Like, you're trying like a motherfucker to get it off.
[1:59:43] Speaker 2: Like, God damn, you just keep trying to get it off. Like... Yeah.
[2:00:10] Speaker 5: So let's keep this moving.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: So Roddick isn't the only one who wants smoke.
[2:00:23] Speaker 2: Chris Eubanks, who's been ranked as high as 29th in
[2:00:25] Speaker 2: the world, a professional tennis player. He's a fan of
[2:00:28] Speaker 2: Gills Arena. So Chris hit me in my Twitter DMs,
[2:00:31] Speaker 2: invited all of you out.
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: To the U.S.
[2:00:32] Speaker 2: Open next month in New York City. So you can
[2:00:35] Speaker 2: see what it's really like out there. And Gil, he
[2:00:36] Speaker 2: said he also wants to see you on a tennis
[2:00:37] Speaker 2: court for some once. But let's get back to Andy
[2:00:40] Speaker 2: Roddick's challenge real quick. Would you play Andy Roddick? No.
[2:00:42] Speaker 2: If you play left hand, serve to right hand. Here
[2:00:45] Speaker 2: go the drunk walkers. Uh-oh. Gills refused to answer. No, nigga. Nah,
[2:00:51] Speaker 2: that ain't the point. Yo, yo, yo, yo. What is that?
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: You said you're going to serve that bitch.
[2:00:57] Speaker 2: Then he's going to play you.
[2:00:59] Speaker 5: I play pickleball. I know, I know. He's going to
[2:01:02] Speaker 5: hit it like this. It's that fast spin in the front.
[2:01:06] Speaker 2: Oh, he's going to flip. He said no spins, no tricks.
[2:01:09] Speaker 2: He said he won't.
[2:01:10] Speaker 1: He will hit it hard. Let me serve first.
[2:01:12] Speaker 2: How about that? Let me serve so you can hit
[2:01:14] Speaker 2: my shit.
[2:01:15] Speaker 1: If he's serving underhand, you got an advantage.
[2:01:18] Speaker 2: If he's just doing this, pop it over the phone.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: That's the start. Pop it over. I want to serve,
[2:01:23] Speaker 2: so he got to start left. I heard him. He
[2:01:26] Speaker 2: snuck it in there. I get to serve underhanded with
[2:01:29] Speaker 2: my right. No, no, no. Let me serve first. Let
[2:01:33] Speaker 2: me serve, and I'm going to beat him. Challenge accepted.
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: Challenge accepted. Look to the camera, dude. Look to the camera.
[2:01:40] Speaker 6: Why?
[2:01:41] Speaker 2: Just tell him.
[2:01:42] Speaker 1: He's going to watch.
[2:01:44] Speaker 2: He's watching. Shout out Mike Hayden. Look at the camera.
[2:01:48] Speaker 2: That shit makes it real. No, I'm going to look
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: over here. Why?
[2:01:51] Speaker 5: Why am I looking over there?
[2:01:53] Speaker 2: I'm not looking over there. No, fuck no. Why would
[2:01:56] Speaker 2: you ask me that question? Why are you like, I
[2:01:59] Speaker 2: challenge him. I challenge him. I didn't look you in
[2:02:02] Speaker 2: the camera.
[2:02:03] Speaker 6: You know, challenge accepted.
[2:02:05] Speaker 2: It. Uh-oh.
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: That was real right there. I'll say it one more
[2:02:09] Speaker 1: time for the ISO cam. Get one more time for
[2:02:10] Speaker 1: the ISO cam. Challenge accepted.
[2:02:12] Speaker 2: Hey, do I get a partner?
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: You can pick a partner on the couch. Y'all can
[2:02:16] Speaker 1: go one on two.
[2:02:17] Speaker 2: Two on one? I want two on one. I mean,
[2:02:18] Speaker 2: we might as well go ahead and see how good
[2:02:20] Speaker 2: he really is. Make it a fair face. No, no, no.
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He
[2:02:27] Speaker 2: is really, really good. He is one of my favorites.
[2:02:31] Speaker 2: I know who he is. I don't know. Let's make
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: it fair. If you got to play tennis, he got
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: to play you in basketball. So, Gil, could you beat
[2:02:49] Speaker 2: Andy Roddick in a shooting competition if you had to
[2:02:52] Speaker 2: shoot left-handed? Oh, shit. Yeah. I thought you said basketball.
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: I was like, man, they might beat me in that, too.
[2:02:58] Speaker 2: That's why I said shooting. That's why I said shooting.
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: No movement. No movement. You can pick the spot. I
[2:03:04] Speaker 2: got to move this way.
[2:03:05] Speaker 1: You can pick the spot.
[2:03:07] Speaker 2: We're going to beat him. If I beat him? If
[2:03:10] Speaker 2: he play right-handed? No, no.
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: I'm saying if it's two of y'all, both of y'all.
[2:03:14] Speaker 2: I'm going to beat him left-handed. Both of y'all. But
[2:03:16] Speaker 2: I might have hope. Take your man's witch. We know
[2:03:19] Speaker 2: where hope works. We know where hope works.
[2:03:20] Speaker 1: I know, you know. Take your man's witch.
[2:03:22] Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey. What do you always say? I got
[2:03:25] Speaker 2: a chance. I got a fucking chance. I got a
[2:03:27] Speaker 2: fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:30] Speaker 8: I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:31] Speaker 2: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:35] Speaker 2: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:37] Speaker 2: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:39] Speaker 2: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:41] Speaker 1: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:43] Speaker 1: I got a fucking chance. I got a fucking chance.
[2:03:45] Speaker 2: 66% of the chat thinks Andy Roddick will beat you
[2:03:50] Speaker 2: with his left hand. We will find out.
[2:03:52] Speaker 1: We don't duck.
[2:03:53] Speaker 2: No smoking. That's cool with me.
[2:03:55] Speaker 1: No, you just got to play.
[2:03:56] Speaker 2: You got to win a game.
[2:03:56] Speaker 1: You win one game, match over.
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: All of us? All of us. Oh, shit. He might
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: get tired. That's what I'm saying.
[2:04:02] Speaker 3: Max.
[2:04:03] Speaker 2: One Andy Roddick versus six Gilrillion. We got a 40%
[2:04:07] Speaker 2: chance to win, man. That's great. We're hitting that. Get
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: him tired. We're him now. No, man.
[2:04:12] Speaker 4: We're going to tie your heart. We're going to get
[2:04:14] Speaker 4: him right before the match. We're going to fix him.
[2:04:17] Speaker 4: We're going to fix him. Yeah, we're going to fix him.
[2:04:19] Speaker 2: Come here.
[2:04:20] Speaker 4: Let me fix you up real quick. I think that
[2:04:22] Speaker 4: arm hurts, huh?
[2:04:25] Speaker 1: Put your fucking legs in the bag. Put your goddamn
[2:04:28] Speaker 1: legs in the bag, Andy. Put your legs in the bag.
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: Come here and put your goddamn legs in this bag.
[2:04:33] Speaker 2: If I hit the ball, man.
[2:04:35] Speaker 6: Because that's all that's going to be on Instagram.
[2:04:38] Speaker 2: Cut. Cut. Cut. Move, move. Make you look good.
[2:04:44] Speaker 1: That's it.
[2:04:45] Speaker 2: Cut. Get edited together. That's like AAU. You'd be like, uh, uh, uh. Oh,
[2:04:49] Speaker 2: didn't go to the next one. Oh, got it. 24 highlights.
[2:04:52] Speaker 2: You got 24 different jerseys. It cuts out with the
[2:04:54] Speaker 2: ball in the air before it hits the basket. Next thing.
[2:04:56] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk one more thing.
[2:04:58] Speaker 2: So after getting embarrassed at the World Cup in 2023,
[2:05:00] Speaker 2: finishing in fourth place, Team USA had to assemble the
[2:05:02] Speaker 2: Avengers to get over the top and win gold at
[2:05:05] Speaker 2: the 2024 Olympics in Paris. So during a recent episode
[2:05:08] Speaker 2: of his road-tripping show with Channing Frye and Ali Clifton,
[2:05:11] Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson was asked to give a hot take, and
[2:05:13] Speaker 2: let's just say it was very spicy. The U.S. will
[2:05:17] Speaker 2: not win gold in Los Angeles, California. Boom. I'm sorry,
[2:05:22] Speaker 2: say what? Hold on now. What did you say? Okay,
[2:05:26] Speaker 2: you went from white people mild to Louisiana explosion. Richard,
[2:05:34] Speaker 2: where is your thinking from that? Please stop that. What
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: did you say? Say it again. Please stop that. I
[2:05:39] Speaker 2: said that the U.S. will not win gold in L.A.
[2:05:43] Speaker 2: in three years. Oh, God. That boy, listen. Y'all, you
[2:05:48] Speaker 2: asked for a hot take. Wait, wait, wait. First of all,
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: are you just trying to piss people off?
[2:05:52] Speaker 15: I'm not trying to piss people off. Did you see
[2:05:55] Speaker 15: it took a Herculean effort for us? It took our
[2:05:59] Speaker 15: greatest basketball players for us to beat a team that
[2:06:02] Speaker 15: had one.
[2:06:03] Speaker 2: All-star in Serbia and had... No All-Stars in France.
[2:06:09] Speaker 15: So for us to say without KD, without Steph, without LeBron,
[2:06:11] Speaker 15: without Embiid, without the Avengers, we would not have won
[2:06:17] Speaker 15: the gold medal.
[2:06:19] Speaker 2: So to RJ's point, 2018 will look much different than
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: 2024 did with the potential of LeBron, KD, and Steph
[2:06:25] Speaker 2: all not playing. 2028? In 2028. Yeah, so 2024 team
[2:06:26] Speaker 2: will look different than the 2028 team. We'll be less Avengers,
[2:06:29] Speaker 2: if you will. So is Richard Jefferson spitting or tripping,
[2:06:35] Speaker 2: same team, or say won't win gold at the 2028
[2:06:38] Speaker 2: Olympics in Los Angeles? We will be there.
[2:06:41] Speaker 6: My question is, who says for sure Steph ain't playing?
[2:06:47] Speaker 6: I said may or may not.
[2:06:48] Speaker 2: Or KD.
[2:06:48] Speaker 1: They're going to be only 39. LeBron only going to
[2:06:52] Speaker 1: be like 45.
[2:06:52] Speaker 2: One last call, man.
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: We just need a couple moments.
[2:07:05] Speaker 2: We don't need to hold the pain. One last ride.
[2:07:08] Speaker 2: One last dance. Last dance, too. That man's still playing
[2:07:11] Speaker 2: basketball all day and all this. It's very possible. That's
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: three years, man. I mean, I said this like four
[2:07:20] Speaker 2: days ago. He retired that year playing the Olympics in 2028. Yeah,
[2:07:24] Speaker 2: he took my take. He got to stay off my Twitter. Dang.
[2:07:27] Speaker 2: We all said it. We know they be doing that shit. Yeah.
[2:07:29] Speaker 2: So we were saying that that day is going to
[2:07:30] Speaker 2: be tough.
[2:07:32] Speaker 3: They don't have a chance. I don't think the U.S.
[2:07:33] Speaker 3: have a chance at all.
[2:07:35] Speaker 2: P.M.U.S.A. does not have a chance. And remember, all the
[2:07:41] Speaker 2: veterans that they have, too, are gone. Back to France?
[2:07:43] Speaker 2: I think he could probably go to Cameroon, not France.
[2:07:48] Speaker 2: All the veterans that they do have is gone, too.
[2:07:53] Speaker 2: So all their stability... Only three? The Colo... What would
[2:07:55] Speaker 2: it be? And platoon.
[2:08:03] Speaker 1: The ones that's not, they're going to be kind of old.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: They got a bunch of young ones. The two young ones.
[2:08:08] Speaker 1: The two tall motherfuckers on that team. The one who
[2:08:12] Speaker 1: got dunked on, he is French. And then you got
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: the number one and two pick from last year. And
[2:08:16] Speaker 1: you got a couple guards.
[2:08:17] Speaker 2: And you got another big win. In four years? No,
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: they got a lot. If Steph and Katie and them
[2:08:23] Speaker 2: don't play. And Aaron Fournier. Aaron Fournier is still over
[2:08:26] Speaker 2: there with them, too. Please don't go with his last name.
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: But they're young talent. Oh, man. Yeah. It is scary.
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to have a.
[2:08:36] Speaker 1: Lot of fucking seven-footers.
[2:08:37] Speaker 2: Yep. They definitely going to have size. Yep. Good luck.
[2:08:39] Speaker 2: They coming back. They want that replay. They got a
[2:08:41] Speaker 2: lot of wings. Yeah, they got a lot. They want
[2:08:43] Speaker 2: that replay. From the three, four, five. The Olympic style
[2:08:46] Speaker 2: of play. Yeah.
[2:08:47] Speaker 5: We're going to shoot it if you want to.
[2:08:51] Speaker 2: Right here. That's different, man. That ain't going to be close. Three, four, five.
[2:08:54] Speaker 2: It might be a blowout every game. And they're going
[2:08:57] Speaker 2: to be like this. We had a bunch of old
[2:08:59] Speaker 2: motherfuckers this year trying to play. Man, listen, dog. That
[2:09:04] Speaker 2: European basketball shit is... It might look like when LeBron
[2:09:07] Speaker 2: and them was young. That second dream team. The Kobe
[2:09:11] Speaker 2: and all them. The redeemed team. Not the 0-4 team.
[2:09:14] Speaker 2: We got Brunson. Nigga, we got Anthony Edwards in three years.
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: We got a 28-year-old Ant-Man.
[2:09:25] Speaker 2: 26? 27? We got a 26-year-old Ant-Man. Yeah. About to
[2:09:28] Speaker 2: find out. Yeah, we're going to find out real soon. Hey, man.
[2:09:31] Speaker 2: Fucking Canada, too. Who's our big? Wait, who's our big?
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: It's going to be tough. Who's our big? Canada is
[2:09:37] Speaker 2: going to be fucking tough. Who do we get? It's
[2:09:40] Speaker 2: always been. It's going to be Cooper Flagg, Mobley. Cooper Flagg, Mobley.
[2:09:47] Speaker 2: I'm just throwing the young beings out there, Jared Allen. Nah,
[2:09:50] Speaker 2: the young fella's over there. Who? The wear kid from Miami.
[2:09:56] Speaker 2: The little wear? Yeah, I like him. He a damn animal.
[2:10:00] Speaker 2: Then next year's draft, you're going to have- A big
[2:10:02] Speaker 2: boy from Clingham.
[2:10:03] Speaker 4: You're going to have AJ Boozer.
[2:10:07] Speaker 2: You think they're going to be ready? No, no way.
[2:10:09] Speaker 2: You think they're going to be ready by the Olympics? Listen, bro.
[2:10:13] Speaker 2: Zach Eady is in Canada? What I'm saying is, Zach
[2:10:15] Speaker 2: Eady is in Canada, bro. Yes. There's something we're missing
[2:10:16] Speaker 2: because our.
[2:10:17] Speaker 1: Team from 16, 17, 18, 19, U has been dominating.
[2:10:18] Speaker 2: They've been smacking everybody. It's a collection of them. So
[2:10:23] Speaker 2: it's like.
[2:10:39] Speaker 6: Where they're scaling at. The French team, they got their
[2:10:43] Speaker 6: ass whooped by y'all. We've been whooping. We're missing something here.
[2:10:54] Speaker 2: They get the best players. Ours is more political. They
[2:10:56] Speaker 2: hide their players too.
[2:10:58] Speaker 4: What I'm told over there is they don't really like
[2:11:00] Speaker 4: the players playing in those 18-17 U's so you can
[2:11:04] Speaker 4: see them early and try to come take them from
[2:11:07] Speaker 4: over where they try to keep them In the tuck.
[2:11:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, Canada. It's going to be some good ones. We're
[2:11:14] Speaker 5: going to have to.
[2:11:14] Speaker 2: It's going to be tough.
[2:11:16] Speaker 9: I got Wimby taking it. Coming back to L.A. taking it.
[2:11:19] Speaker 2: I see SGA. Like, defensively, I just. I thought they
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: was going to have a better showing. They didn't have these. Remember,
[2:11:29] Speaker 2: he didn't play. They didn't have no big. South Sudan.
[2:11:32] Speaker 2: South Sudan.
[2:11:32] Speaker 1: No, South Sudan going to be a hard fucking out
[2:11:36] Speaker 1: in 28.
[2:11:36] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
[2:11:37] Speaker 6: They good, bro.
[2:11:40] Speaker 2: You know the funny part about the South Sudan team? If...
[2:11:46] Speaker 2: Canada really wants to try to win. They can combine them, right?
[2:11:51] Speaker 6: They should take all those South Sudan players and put
[2:11:54] Speaker 6: them on because most of those kids... went to Canada
[2:11:58] Speaker 6: and lived in Canada when he was having trouble. So
[2:12:00] Speaker 6: most of them are Canadians. And they use them for
[2:12:04] Speaker 6: the South Sudan. Yeah, but they can play South Sudan.
[2:12:08] Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it's going to be hard out. They
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: can line their team up. Oh, shit, never mind. Hard out.
[2:12:14] Speaker 2: They can take their bigs.
[2:12:15] Speaker 5: They can take South Sudan bigs and mix them with
[2:12:18] Speaker 5: guards yeah that's what I said I.
[2:12:20] Speaker 6: Was listening oh my god who's gonna be the coach
[2:12:22] Speaker 6: South Sudan that's important who's gonna be the coach can't
[2:12:25] Speaker 6: be can't be.
[2:12:37] Speaker 2: Ain't no way. Can't be a game. Because if you're
[2:12:41] Speaker 2: trying to have a chance, you need Jason Tatum. A
[2:12:43] Speaker 2: little bit of Chiro.
[2:12:45] Speaker 5: If you want to have a chance, you need Jason Tatum.
[2:12:48] Speaker 1: We're going to need him. Guarantee Steve Kerr is Jason Tatum.
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: I'm going to apologize right now.
[2:12:56] Speaker 2: Okay, Gil. This is a big moment. I don't think
[2:12:59] Speaker 2: Ant-Man like him either. I am very sorry that I
[2:13:02] Speaker 2: disrespected your body. Um... We are going to need you. So,
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: Carl Anthony, please forgive me. I'm begging you for the USA.
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: In three years? Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know
[2:13:19] Speaker 2: you went to go play with your team, but come
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: on back, man. Come on home. We're going to need you.
[2:13:24] Speaker 2: We're going to need you. Don't listen to them. He can't.
[2:13:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to sit off FIBA. If he sits
[2:13:33] Speaker 1: off FIBA, it works. That's why I'm begging, please don't play.
[2:13:36] Speaker 1: Please don't play and be black. Be black again.
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: Be black.
[2:13:39] Speaker 6: Appreciate you. I know being in New York, what's that
[2:13:43] Speaker 6: area you wanted me to go to?
[2:13:45] Speaker 2: Dykeman.
[2:13:45] Speaker 1: Dykeman, I know they're going to put the pressure on
[2:13:47] Speaker 1: you to play, but America needs you.
[2:13:49] Speaker 2: You can be a real hero. You can be a
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: real hero here. I'm begging you. I'm sorry. Don't do it.
[2:13:54] Speaker 2: Don't fuck all that.
[2:13:55] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:13:57] Speaker 2: Go play. Go play at FIBA. So, home back cat.
[2:14:01] Speaker 1: Still three years away from the next Olympics.
[2:14:02] Speaker 2: A lot can change in that time frame, but who
[2:14:04] Speaker 2: do you feel like are the top dogs on the
[2:14:06] Speaker 2: 2028 Team USA Olympic squad? Ant-Man and Jason Tatum. Ant-Man,
[2:14:11] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, Pablo Manchero. Pablo. Pablo. Mobley. Chet. Bring a twin.
[2:14:18] Speaker 2: Them two twins, maybe. Chet. Oh, shit. Yeah. We do
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: got a Chet. We do got a Chet. Come on, man. Yeah!
[2:14:28] Speaker 2: Y'all think this is nasty. Yeah! Trouble. Kyrie. Bam, y'all. Kyrie. No, we, Jamarant, Jamarant. No, hey, hey, hey.
[2:14:37] Speaker 14: Kade.
[2:14:38] Speaker 2: Oh! Kade to be. Kade to be. Kade. Yeah, we
[2:14:42] Speaker 2: got Kade. Thompson twins.
[2:14:44] Speaker 6: Yeah, we gonna, just probably one of them. No, I
[2:14:46] Speaker 6: think they're trying to play for Jamaica.
[2:14:48] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: They don't try to play for Jamaica, but all right cool.
[2:14:52] Speaker 1: We we we can get one we can convince one
[2:14:55] Speaker 1: You know, they can't believe we can convince one a man.
[2:14:57] Speaker 2: They both go into today.
[2:14:59] Speaker 1: Both one go both Go and kill everybody every time
[2:15:05] Speaker 1: did you make a team to qualify heavy Jamaican logic
[2:15:08] Speaker 1: making the league you'll be.
[2:15:09] Speaker 2: Still It's a u.s.
[2:15:11] Speaker 3: In trouble.
[2:15:12] Speaker 5: Yeah, and then no, we gotta say got enough got
[2:15:15] Speaker 5: enough got enough got enough.
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: Oh We got enough.
[2:15:18] Speaker 2: We got enough to compete.
[2:15:20] Speaker 6: For who?
[2:15:20] Speaker 2: They got enough to compete.
[2:15:21] Speaker 4: If you think about all the international stars out of
[2:15:23] Speaker 4: that list.
[2:15:24] Speaker 5: If Steve Kerr can't be the coach, you need Jason
[2:15:26] Speaker 5: Tate on that team.
[2:15:27] Speaker 4: Take all the internationals off the list of the top 25.
[2:15:30] Speaker 4: All the international guys off. We're talking about four years
[2:15:33] Speaker 4: from now, though.
[2:15:35] Speaker 2: Not right now. Four years. Right now, take these top
[2:15:39] Speaker 2: 20 guys. I'm not worried about it. I'm just saying.
[2:15:41] Speaker 2: We're talking about projection. Three summers from now. So you
[2:15:45] Speaker 2: got all of these international players who are going to
[2:15:48] Speaker 2: be better. Like Wemby. Like Wemby, Shagoon, Joker, Luka, Shay. Bro,
[2:15:58] Speaker 2: all them dudes are going to be. Giannis? Giannis? Like
[2:16:02] Speaker 2: Giannis going into his prime. But they don't play in
[2:16:04] Speaker 2: his team. It's Giannis with the rest of his team.
[2:16:07] Speaker 2: For sure.
[2:16:08] Speaker 1: But it's a new Giannis. Giannis is his brother, his uncle,
[2:16:13] Speaker 1: his cousin. Giannis is out there by himself. They're teaching
[2:16:17] Speaker 1: their people, though.
[2:16:18] Speaker 2: That's the difference.
[2:16:19] Speaker 4: They're teaching their people what they know. So Giannis is
[2:16:22] Speaker 4: not just bullshitting with their team.
[2:16:24] Speaker 2: Chet better. Man. Paulo better. Brunson will actually play potentially.
[2:16:29] Speaker 4: The guards, you name, you get Donovan Mitchell, you can
[2:16:33] Speaker 4: get whatever it's.
[2:16:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, our guards back, I mean, our guards,
[2:16:37] Speaker 6: you're talking about, like, Dylan Harper, them, like, you got
[2:16:40] Speaker 6: to think about the group that just came in, too.
[2:16:42] Speaker 2: In four years? Yeah. In three years. The reason why
[2:16:45] Speaker 2: is the reason why. Superfly got the point guard. They
[2:16:48] Speaker 2: just won. The Olympics we just won, right? Why did
[2:16:51] Speaker 2: we win it?
[2:16:52] Speaker 3: Because of Steph Curry.
[2:16:54] Speaker 2: Experience. Experience. Experience. That's it. We know how to calm down.
[2:17:00] Speaker 4: Hey, listen, if he's going to meet And Brian or
[2:17:04] Speaker 4: KD going to be taking these shots sitting around this time.
[2:17:07] Speaker 4: Everybody else move the fuck around, pass around, cut and drive.
[2:17:10] Speaker 2: We got this. We're going to figure it out. KD,
[2:17:13] Speaker 2: I mean, Steph has like amazing games.
[2:17:15] Speaker 4: I'm saying those.
[2:17:18] Speaker 2: Three guys put it on their back.
[2:17:20] Speaker 6: But that's going to be our Booker and Anthony Edwards.
[2:17:24] Speaker 2: That's going to be our Booker, Anthony Edwards. Yeah. what
[2:17:26] Speaker 2: about the mellow.
[2:17:26] Speaker 5: Ball your guy jaylen around tatum yeah we're gonna be
[2:17:30] Speaker 5: sure we're gonna be there should be something you got
[2:17:33] Speaker 5: chet you got paulo still what he.
[2:17:35] Speaker 2: Is in comparison to the other guys on the other side.
[2:17:37] Speaker 6: They're better than them now their names spread out what's
[2:17:40] Speaker 6: so funny is but your guys are spread out these
[2:17:42] Speaker 6: guys on.
[2:17:43] Speaker 4: One team you're right but we all play a certain
[2:17:45] Speaker 4: type of basketball but y'all don't all them guys i
[2:17:47] Speaker 4: named to be on one team. Them guys going to
[2:17:51] Speaker 4: be spread out. But even the guys you talking about.
[2:17:53] Speaker 4: Going to be on one team still.
[2:17:54] Speaker 2: They.
[2:17:56] Speaker 4: Comparison to the Avengers that came in and the dudes
[2:17:58] Speaker 4: that they had to fight against that didn't have nothing.
[2:18:01] Speaker 2: They ain't going to be the same teams. We are
[2:18:04] Speaker 2: going to have more talent on our team.
[2:18:05] Speaker 5: But these are going to be the dudes that's in
[2:18:07] Speaker 5: discussion for MVPs and NBA.
[2:18:09] Speaker 2: Who? The guys that I named on our team.
[2:18:12] Speaker 1: There is one American player with tons of experience playing here.
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards and SGA and Giannis and Luka.
[2:18:19] Speaker 9: I mean, probably the discussion, but let me hear a question.
[2:18:22] Speaker 2: Paulo in three years? There's a reason Luka's playing right now.
[2:18:25] Speaker 2: His team got to qualify for him. Over Jokic and
[2:18:27] Speaker 2: Giannis and Snow? Have you noticed? They got to play.
[2:18:28] Speaker 2: The discussion is fine. I mean, they're always in the discussion, though. No.
[2:18:37] Speaker 1: They got to play because their teams can't qualify.
[2:18:41] Speaker 5: Like Giannis' team can't qualify without him. Luka's team can't
[2:18:46] Speaker 5: qualify without him. No, but so they got to play
[2:18:49] Speaker 5: to even qualify for Olympics.
[2:18:51] Speaker 2: That's how bad the rest of the group is. And
[2:18:55] Speaker 2: as a reminder, Cooper Flagg was cooking TGUSA. That's the point.
[2:18:58] Speaker 4: If I can inject myself to take my team up,
[2:19:01] Speaker 4: it's going to make y'all struggle.
[2:19:03] Speaker 2: If my team can't make it... without me, and you
[2:19:07] Speaker 2: put me on and we push y'all to the limit,
[2:19:09] Speaker 2: what is that saying about y'all? Who pushed you to
[2:19:13] Speaker 2: the limit? To what limit? The 28? The last Olympics. Okay,
[2:19:17] Speaker 2: that's the thing. We got one all-star, we push it
[2:19:19] Speaker 2: to the limit. When we come back in four years,
[2:19:22] Speaker 2: we're going to have more players. you're going to have
[2:19:24] Speaker 2: less players. No, not less players. You're going to have
[2:19:28] Speaker 2: different players.
[2:19:29] Speaker 5: You've got three Hall of Famers that took you over
[2:19:31] Speaker 5: the top. You're not going to have those guys no more.
[2:19:35] Speaker 2: That's what I said.
[2:19:36] Speaker 6: When you think about the young people that are going
[2:19:38] Speaker 6: to be on the team, our young players are still
[2:19:40] Speaker 6: in front of them. Outside, if you take Wimby, just
[2:19:44] Speaker 6: for French, if you take Wimby off, just Wimby himself...
[2:19:48] Speaker 6: They don't have anybody that's second to Wimby that's in
[2:19:51] Speaker 6: front of our American players.
[2:19:52] Speaker 2: Luka? Paulo, Chet. Luka don't play for France. Oh, you're
[2:19:56] Speaker 2: talking about France. I thought you were talking about international.
[2:20:00] Speaker 2: We're talking about countries. We know not one specific country
[2:20:04] Speaker 2: is going to do that.
[2:20:05] Speaker 6: But no, they're saying French. We're talking about French will
[2:20:08] Speaker 6: be there. We're talking about the U.S. I ain't talking
[2:20:11] Speaker 6: about that either. The French team, the guys that they're going.
[2:20:15] Speaker 2: To be using is not better than anybody that.
[2:20:19] Speaker 6: They're not Thomas Winby. And then everybody else, they're young
[2:20:23] Speaker 6: guys who's going.
[2:20:23] Speaker 2: To be on there. I thought we were talking about
[2:20:25] Speaker 2: the whole international. I thought we were talking about just France. France, Serbia.
[2:20:31] Speaker 1: We're talking about the USA versus the field. We're not
[2:20:35] Speaker 1: just talking about France. We're talking about everybody.
[2:20:39] Speaker 6: The only team that's actually dangerous that I think is dangerous,
[2:20:42] Speaker 6: but they're kind of small, that's going to be veterans
[2:20:46] Speaker 6: and good is.
[2:20:47] Speaker 2: Canada. Because they have everybody coming back. But they normally fall.
[2:20:51] Speaker 2: They got Eden, right? They got Eden. And then Zach
[2:20:53] Speaker 2: Eden came on. Zach Eden's over there. No, but that's okay.
[2:20:55] Speaker 2: So they're adding, they're going to be adding. It should
[2:20:59] Speaker 2: be like Julian, though, put him over. Other overseas guys, like,
[2:21:03] Speaker 2: you can't forget about Jeremy. But the team ain't that.
[2:21:05] Speaker 2: It's team. Waggy, waggy. There's no French person that's better
[2:21:08] Speaker 2: than Chet.
[2:21:16] Speaker 6: There's no other French player that's better than Paulo.
[2:21:19] Speaker 2: There's no French guards better than our guards.
[2:21:22] Speaker 6: There's no small force better than our small force.
[2:21:25] Speaker 2: I mean, it's a team. I mean, that's the same conversation.
[2:21:28] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. We just had that conversation last year,
[2:21:31] Speaker 2: and we've seen that none of those players lined up
[2:21:33] Speaker 2: with none of the USA players. The French team, none
[2:21:36] Speaker 2: of them. Why are they taking them to the edge?
[2:21:39] Speaker 2: We didn't take them to the edge. We didn't take
[2:21:41] Speaker 2: them to the edge. They could be free. Y'all might
[2:21:42] Speaker 2: be the edge. This is the Avengers. You talking about
[2:21:46] Speaker 2: we lined up. We, we. We lined up with them. Oh, shit.
[2:21:50] Speaker 2: They looking like we about to play against them. And
[2:21:52] Speaker 2: then you finish the game like, man, we could have
[2:21:53] Speaker 2: beat them. We could have. Could have, should have, would have.
[2:21:56] Speaker 1: I think they was crying with that silver on their throat.
[2:22:00] Speaker 2: He too.
[2:22:01] Speaker 1: Like, he was crying out there.
[2:22:03] Speaker 2: Still took the light out. Now they coming to America.
[2:22:06] Speaker 2: Our hometown. Los Angeles.
[2:22:09] Speaker 1: There is one American Hooper.
[2:22:10] Speaker 2: Gang Bang Central. There is one American Hooper. Gang Bang Central, baby.
[2:22:13] Speaker 2: Better not leave the hotel. Better not leave the hotel.
[2:22:17] Speaker 1: There is one American Hooper that you guys are all overlooking.
[2:22:19] Speaker 2: There is one.
[2:22:20] Speaker 1: American Hooper with international style experience.
[2:22:25] Speaker 2: And he's from L.A. That is LaMelo LaFrance Ball. Played
[2:22:30] Speaker 2: in Lithuania. What about him? We should be good.
[2:22:35] Speaker 1: We'll be 26 years old at that point. And we're
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: going to have them Olympic boys that kind of played
[2:22:39] Speaker 1: this year, maybe. Some of them are going to probably
[2:22:41] Speaker 1: make it be young boys. Jello can sing the national
[2:22:43] Speaker 1: anthem before the championship.
[2:22:44] Speaker 2: We should be all right. If we win bronze or
[2:22:49] Speaker 2: don't win, none of us is going to be surprised.
[2:22:53] Speaker 1: Nobody's going to be surprised, but I think I fear
[2:22:57] Speaker 1: Canada more.
[2:22:58] Speaker 6: Because if they do, if they were smart and they
[2:23:00] Speaker 6: do get the Sudan players that's from Canada and get
[2:23:04] Speaker 6: the height over there, then you got actually a balanced team.
[2:23:07] Speaker 6: Now you got your guards, your MVP. You know, Shea
[2:23:09] Speaker 6: might be a two-time, three-time MVP by then, but we
[2:23:12] Speaker 6: know he's going to be a lot better. You add
[2:23:15] Speaker 6: that with Biggs?
[2:23:18] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, will Team USA win gold
[2:23:20] Speaker 2: in 2028? 72% of the chat thinks that Team USA
[2:23:23] Speaker 2: will win gold. They say yes. Let's move on to
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[2:25:15] Speaker 2: pray on King and Lose in the night.
[2:25:17] Speaker 1: We got to pray on King and Lose in the night.
[2:25:19] Speaker 1: Make tomorrow a real championship. You're the only one who
[2:25:22] Speaker 1: will make that prayer.
[2:25:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. Hold on, hold on. So if he lose, you
[2:25:28] Speaker 2: ain't got to change. No, Gil's already won today, so
[2:25:31] Speaker 2: if King and Lose, they tie. Is it a set number?
[2:25:34] Speaker 2: How many we doing? Because we'll have two. We got
[2:25:36] Speaker 2: one more day. We got today and tomorrow. We got
[2:25:39] Speaker 2: one more day, Kill. How many losses did you have?
[2:25:41] Speaker 2: Too many. Three. Three. I'm right behind him. You're outside
[2:25:45] Speaker 2: the range. They both lose and I win. But Gil's
[2:25:47] Speaker 2: already won. Today. He's already won today. You can't catch me.
[2:25:50] Speaker 1: You can just catch King. You can't catch me. No,
[2:25:52] Speaker 1: if you lose and.
[2:25:54] Speaker 6: Lose tomorrow, that's three losses, technically.
[2:25:57] Speaker 2: You could, but you ain't going to do that.
[2:25:59] Speaker 12: But I.
[2:26:01] Speaker 2: You can just... What?
[2:26:02] Speaker 1: Lose today and lose tomorrow. Yeah, you can't win because
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: I've won already. So I can't get three losses. He's
[2:26:11] Speaker 1: ahead of you right now? Yeah, he's ahead of me,
[2:26:13] Speaker 1: but I can't get three losses.
[2:26:15] Speaker 2: They have turned the jungle. Which is our signal. I
[2:26:18] Speaker 2: technically can, because I can lose tomorrow. I got two
[2:26:20] Speaker 2: losses already. I got two losses, but if I lose tomorrow.
[2:26:23] Speaker 2: Move the furniture. Move the furniture. We can all tie.
[2:26:28] Speaker 2: Move the furniture.
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:26:33] Speaker 2: Well, we'll see y'all tomorrow.

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