# Michael Malone FIRED By The Nuggets STUNS Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 8 Apr 2025, 2 h 45 min.

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Michael Malone FIRED By The Nuggets STUNS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the shocking news that the Denver Nuggets Fired Mike Malone and break down what this means for Nikola Jokic & The team moving forward. The Los Angeles Clippers Are The NBA Playoffs' BIGGEST Sleepers according to Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew examine an underrated season for Kawhi Leonard, James Harden & The Los Angeles Clippers and break down how this healthy Clippers squad can make some unexpected noise in the NBA Playoffs. They then react to Victor Wembanyama being spotted with Hakeem Olajuwon at last night's NCAA National Championship game reigniting a hostile debate from last season over whether or not the San Antonio Spurs' superstar should be training with the NBA Legend and learning his old moves. They also discuss what Wemby needs to work on this offseason to push the Spurs into being legit contenders before reacting to the championship game between Houston & Florida where Walter Clayton Jr may have played himself into a lottery pick. Next, they react to Draymond Green's comments surrounding Steph Curry not getting a fair whistle on the Draymond Green Show and debate if they agree or disagree with Steve Kerr calling Nikola Jokic the best center he's ever seen in the history of the NBA. Finally, they give their thoughts on Tracy McGrady's take that LeBron James would get waxed in an NBA 1 on 1 tournament and give Dwight Howard his much deserved flowers following his NBA Hall of Fame announcement. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com & use Promo code ARENA USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Vote Here For The Webby Awards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/creators/individual-creator/sports Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 - 2 Min Timer 0:01:59 - Show Start 0:04:08 - Gil Enters The Arena Smoking On The Malone Pack 0:16:09 - Michael Malone FIRED 1:05:20 - Wemby SHOULD Train With Hakeem Olajuwon 1:33:05 - Auburn's Lineup Is Older Than The NBA 1:49:57 - Steph Gets An Unfair Whistle 2:13:27 - The Clippers' Are The NBA's SNEAKIEST Playoff Team 2:19:27 - Gilbert Arenas HATES The Play-In Tournament 2:39:46 - MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa!
[0:06] Speaker 1: Great to be on this couch with some employed gentlemen.
[0:13] Speaker 2: Oh, y'all, that don't mean anything. Another one bites the dust. Listen,
[0:15] Speaker 2: Mike Malone ain't got nothing. One bucket for the Nuggets.
[0:17] Speaker 2: Y'all still in trouble. Y'all, all that cheering, yeah.
[0:20] Speaker 1: He saw what was coming. He saw what was coming.
[0:23] Speaker 3: Sound good. Tapped out.
[0:24] Speaker 1: He's still a motherfucker.
[0:25] Speaker 3: Who's your daddy?
[0:26] Speaker 1: Number 15 still play there. For now, can you?
[0:31] Speaker 3: We got horses in L.A. too.
[0:32] Speaker 1: We got horses in L.A. too.
[0:33] Speaker 2: Look what I just said. You just got to bring
[0:35] Speaker 2: them up, huh?
[0:38] Speaker 1: Clippers and Lakers. But this is Gil's Arena. Where is
[0:45] Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas at? Has anybody seen Gilbert?
[0:49] Speaker 3: No?
[0:51] Speaker 1: Nobody know where Gil at? The show has started. We
[0:54] Speaker 1: at his house. All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, we're
[1:00] Speaker 1: going to rock out. On this side of the couch,
[1:04] Speaker 1: we got the man known as Cemetery Larry. Rashad McCann
[1:07] Speaker 1: is back here with us. NCAA champion of the world.
[1:11] Speaker 1: Similar to the Florida Gators, who got their third natty. Rashad,
[1:15] Speaker 1: you changed your pick yesterday. Did I? You did change
[1:18] Speaker 1: your pick.
[1:19] Speaker 3: Did I? You had Houston in your bracket. Did I?
[1:21] Speaker 3: You thought Florida was going to take it. Thank you
[1:25] Speaker 3: again for just knowing the name. I acknowledge.
[1:27] Speaker 1: The proper name. I acknowledge. Gotta show love. Shout out
[1:30] Speaker 1: to those Gators.
[1:34] Speaker 3: Why you flip-flopping? That's why. That's why. Typical. Typical.
[1:39] Speaker 2: Sean McCann's fashion. Like, filled out his bracket. Had Houston
[1:44] Speaker 2: winning on his bracket. And said the other team was
[1:48] Speaker 2: going to win.
[1:49] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. I keep hearing footsteps, baby. Gilbert Arena says enter
[2:00] Speaker 3: the arena. Yeah. LeBron, LeBron, LeBron James. Oh, yeah. Gilbert
[2:09] Speaker 3: has entered the arena. There's all the sad faces around here.
[2:12] Speaker 3: Gilbert has entered the arena. Thank you, Coach Plump. Yeah, underdog. Hey,
[2:20] Speaker 3: y'all must have knew already off the jump.
[2:23] Speaker 1: Got the suitcase. What's in the box?
[2:27] Speaker 3: Uh-oh. Oh! Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Already got the Lakers
[2:32] Speaker 3: on it. Already got the Lakers on it. Yeah. Uh-oh.
[2:38] Speaker 3: Can I get some glasses? Can I get some glasses?
[2:41] Speaker 3: I just need two. It just needs two. Just two. Oh, hey,
[2:45] Speaker 3: ain't going to be no fun drinking over here. You
[2:48] Speaker 3: know what? There's only going to be one. No salty
[2:53] Speaker 3: drinkers in the arena. Popping bottles. Who's your daddy? Hey, man.
[3:02] Speaker 3: We got Luca. We got Luca. Danny. I can't help it.
[3:10] Speaker 1: We're at the parade. We just had a parade.
[3:13] Speaker 3: I'll invite you, man. You can ride on my boat.
[3:15] Speaker 3: I'm going to have the boat in the back. On
[3:19] Speaker 3: the freeway. Boat. We're going to boat, water, jacuzzi, everything.
[3:23] Speaker 1: Will somebody retire?
[3:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, they retired a coach.
[3:26] Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, the guys still play there.
[3:35] Speaker 3: What guys?
[3:36] Speaker 1: The ones that matter. You mean your kids? Yeah, he's
[3:43] Speaker 1: just gonna- Aw, nah, I mean, he lost his road dog.
[3:46] Speaker 3: Hey, now, when all else fail, hey, when all else fail,
[3:48] Speaker 3: he gonna turn five.
[3:50] Speaker 1: Shit, listen.
[3:50] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Sean?
[3:52] Speaker 1: Hey, you ain't got a coach turn five. He gonna
[3:55] Speaker 1: turn on the five. You know what I'm saying? Let's
[3:58] Speaker 1: stop at Stapleson. We got a 15 jersey ready for you. Boy,
[4:02] Speaker 1: you sweating.
[4:03] Speaker 3: Huh?
[4:04] Speaker 1: You sweating.
[4:05] Speaker 3: What? You can't keep up the life forever. No, I'm
[4:07] Speaker 3: running up and down the street. You didn't see all
[4:11] Speaker 3: them white people running around, jumping outside?
[4:15] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
[4:16] Speaker 3: Why are we having a show today?
[4:20] Speaker 1: Where's the balloon?
[4:21] Speaker 3: I know it's, we just, come on, balloons.
[4:24] Speaker 1: Can we get those million balloons back in here? We
[4:26] Speaker 1: have the balloons.
[4:30] Speaker 3: I'm prepared. I'm prepared.
[4:33] Speaker 1: I got the trophy every day. Damn.
[4:37] Speaker 3: If you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready,
[4:39] Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen.
[4:40] Speaker 1: Hey, what's the chat talking about? Are they happy or not?
[4:44] Speaker 1: Talking about unemployed coaches and the teams they used to coach.
[4:46] Speaker 3: Hey, you know the storyline like father and son, first champs?
[4:51] Speaker 1: LeBron James and Bronny, you're funny. He brought it up, Kane.
[4:55] Speaker 1: He brought it up. What'd I say?
[4:56] Speaker 3: He brought it up.
[4:57] Speaker 1: He wouldn't even hear.
[5:00] Speaker 3: What'd I say? Hey, the king, that's how you do it?
[5:01] Speaker 1: Bring what up?
[5:04] Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about the Lakers? Oh, okay. All right.
[5:07] Speaker 3: We can't bring up talking about the Lakers?
[5:09] Speaker 1: Hey, he's trying to smoke the cigar for real. He's
[5:11] Speaker 1: trying to smoke.
[5:12] Speaker 3: It like a black and brown. Hey, he's going to
[5:15] Speaker 3: have a rough hour in this. It's going to be nasty, too.
[5:19] Speaker 1: His head ain't going to cut. That's the new Kelsey Plums, man.
[5:23] Speaker 3: You know, she's with the Sparks now, so it's all
[5:25] Speaker 3: purple and gold. Kelsey Plums cigars. It's the Kelsey Plums
[5:29] Speaker 3: right here. Uh-oh. And I got it when she was
[5:31] Speaker 3: on Vegas, so you see how this shit is aligning?
[5:34] Speaker 3: Stars are aligned.
[5:35] Speaker 1: First cigar I ever smoked right here.
[5:37] Speaker 3: Fuck.
[5:41] Speaker 1: I mean, y'all can carry on, man. We'll see if
[5:42] Speaker 1: we make it through the show, but this is.
[5:44] Speaker 4: Hey, are we going to talk about the Lakers first,
[5:46] Speaker 4: or what are we going to do? I didn't even
[5:48] Speaker 4: see the run down. Everything just got erased once I
[5:50] Speaker 4: heard those news.
[5:51] Speaker 1: Gil, they want to know if you're smoking the Michael
[5:53] Speaker 1: Malone pack.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Hey, can somebody roll up something for me real quick? Uh-oh.
[6:00] Speaker 3: The second time in his life. Hey, hey, hey, Calvin Booth,
[6:05] Speaker 3: I know you got care, too, but look, we don't
[6:08] Speaker 3: give a fuck.
[6:10] Speaker 1: We don't give a, get on out of there, man.
[6:12] Speaker 3: Hey, before you go, you should trade your kids right
[6:14] Speaker 3: on to us.
[6:16] Speaker 1: Oh, he gone already.
[6:17] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[6:18] Speaker 1: He got to make no more decisions. He got him
[6:20] Speaker 1: and his pink slip together. Pack your shit. Me come
[6:24] Speaker 1: last and longer. Who would have guessed? But this is
[6:26] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we got the
[6:28] Speaker 1: legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. And we're going to
[6:33] Speaker 1: just start from the top. The man known as Cemetery Larry,
[6:35] Speaker 1: NCAA champion Rashad McCants. See if we bring him back
[6:43] Speaker 1: to the Lakers side. On this side of the couch,
[6:45] Speaker 1: we've got the distinguished gentleman representing Oak Cliff, former number
[6:48] Speaker 1: one pick, Kenyon Martin. But Ken, here's the problem. You
[6:56] Speaker 1: mad we always talk about the Lakers.
[6:57] Speaker 3: I'm not mad.
[6:58] Speaker 1: Like I ain't put the call in to Palenka. You
[6:59] Speaker 1: know who we need.
[7:00] Speaker 3: I'm definitely not mad. You know who we need. We
[7:04] Speaker 3: got Bronny, we need KJ. Hey, can you say this
[7:07] Speaker 3: for after? Yeah, you can do it.
[7:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's going to be a long one.
[7:12] Speaker 3: When is the championship?
[7:13] Speaker 1: Like, that's in what? Middle of June. If not earlier,
[7:17] Speaker 1: depending on how we feel. The pride of L.A., our
[7:21] Speaker 1: favorite Slovenian, Luka Doncic. See, I didn't have a certain
[7:23] Speaker 1: name on here.
[7:25] Speaker 3: Just because you're fucking with me today, I got time, shit.
[7:31] Speaker 1: So as you already know, we got a lot to discuss.
[7:34] Speaker 1: One thing we need to address, Swaggy P, not in
[7:36] Speaker 1: the arena today. We'll be back tomorrow. But if you're
[7:39] Speaker 1: in L.A. and you want to see him before that,
[7:41] Speaker 1: head over to Westwood. We got our billboard right near
[7:43] Speaker 1: UCLA's campus. You can see him decked out in UCLA
[7:46] Speaker 1: gear as a punishment for the Instagram bet. that he lost,
[7:49] Speaker 1: and you can expect a public apology from Swaggy tomorrow
[7:52] Speaker 1: when he's back in the arena for not believing in
[7:55] Speaker 1: these Bruins. Swaggy, we appreciate you. Four's up, sir. Our
[7:58] Speaker 1: newest and truest Bruin, Swaggy P. Nick Young. But for
[8:02] Speaker 1: all the fans out there, we still got two viewing
[8:03] Speaker 1: options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick
[8:06] Speaker 1: whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you
[8:08] Speaker 1: support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard has been balling since the All-Star break and
[8:14] Speaker 1: was just named Player of the Week How scary is
[8:17] Speaker 1: a healthy Clippers squad in the playoffs? A lot of
[8:20] Speaker 1: teams seem like they don't want to play the Clips
[8:22] Speaker 1: if they have full strength. I know one team that does, though.
[8:25] Speaker 1: Steph Curry, considered by many to be the greatest point
[8:28] Speaker 1: guard in NBA history. But does Chef Curry deserve a
[8:31] Speaker 1: better whistle? Jimmy Butler has some thoughts. Draymond Greed has
[8:34] Speaker 1: some thoughts on the latest episode of his show. And
[8:36] Speaker 1: Steph Cooks, whether or not he goes to the free
[8:39] Speaker 1: throw line. And the biggest news of the day. The
[8:42] Speaker 1: Nuggets shocked the basketball world by firing both head coach
[8:45] Speaker 1: Michael Malone And GM Calvin Booth just two years after
[8:49] Speaker 1: winning a title and with less than a week remaining
[8:52] Speaker 1: in the regular season. Where do the Nuggets go from here?
[8:55] Speaker 1: Most importantly, where does their MVP candidate Nikola Jokic go?
[9:00] Speaker 1: If you don't stay in Denver. But before we get
[9:02] Speaker 1: into all that, as always, support the show. Download the
[9:05] Speaker 1: Underdog app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $ 1, 000
[9:06] Speaker 1: of bonus cash plus a special pick-em. And, okay, this
[9:12] Speaker 1: is in the script, so we got to talk Lakers.
[9:13] Speaker 1: Luka Doncic is playing tonight. Underdog dropping a Luka discount
[9:17] Speaker 1: every game he plays for the remainder of the regular season.
[9:20] Speaker 1: That's right, we're dropping specials for every Luka game, including
[9:23] Speaker 1: tonight's game against the Thunder, the rubber match. Special continues
[9:26] Speaker 1: to hit 19 wins out of 23 games he's played
[9:29] Speaker 1: with the special. So take advantage of that. Just use
[9:31] Speaker 1: the QR code on screen or the link in the
[9:33] Speaker 1: chat to claim your offer for tonight's game.
[9:38] Speaker 3: You missed a spot, you missed a spot. All right,
[9:40] Speaker 3: all right, cool.
[9:41] Speaker 1: As for tonight, Kenyon has some picks up in his
[9:43] Speaker 1: partner pack on the Underdog app.
[9:45] Speaker 3: Let's take a look.
[9:46] Speaker 1: Hope we didn't take no dip in Nuggets.
[9:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenyon's pick. Nugget free.
[9:50] Speaker 1: Smart man.
[9:51] Speaker 3: Nugget free.
[9:51] Speaker 1: You got Mark Williams, higher 7.5 rebounds. Darius Garland, higher
[9:55] Speaker 1: 19.5 points. Zach Ali, at least I say, higher, 11.5 points.
[10:01] Speaker 1: And Onyeka Okonkwo higher, 10.5 rebounds. If you roll with
[10:04] Speaker 1: Kenya's partner pack, you can win 6.71 times your bread.
[10:09] Speaker 3: How you feeling about your picks tonight, Kenya? Yeah, I
[10:11] Speaker 3: did what Gil did. I went on there and see
[10:13] Speaker 3: what else they had. Some main ones. Adjusted a few
[10:17] Speaker 3: of them.
[10:17] Speaker 1: I'm about to take those right now. I adjusted a
[10:21] Speaker 1: few of them, so yeah. How do you think Kenyon's
[10:25] Speaker 1: partner packed? Look, you've been on a heater lately, taking
[10:27] Speaker 1: a lot of underdogs money, giving it to the people
[10:29] Speaker 1: for those who have decided to roll with your opinions
[10:32] Speaker 1: in regards to pick-ups.
[10:35] Speaker 3: I'd like to share.
[10:36] Speaker 1: I don't like Deshaun Shea. He's iffy.
[10:42] Speaker 3: 12 points? Mm-hmm. That's the only problem we have. He
[10:46] Speaker 3: could get it, but it's a risk. But it's a
[10:48] Speaker 3: good investment though, six times the money. If he play
[10:52] Speaker 3: a lot, he just risky. He went out, I'd go
[10:56] Speaker 3: away from him.
[10:58] Speaker 1: I just think this is the last week of the
[10:59] Speaker 1: season here, rookie.
[11:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll let him rock. They should, they should on that. Yeah,
[11:03] Speaker 3: that's a good one though, because he'll put up more shots.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Late in the season.
[11:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:09] Speaker 1: So three of his last five games, he had the 36-piece,
[11:11] Speaker 1: but then he had two nine-point games.
[11:13] Speaker 3: But his last two games, he's had 12 and 16
[11:14] Speaker 3: against the Knicks and Jazz. Yeah. Playing the Magic tonight,
[11:20] Speaker 3: he might be able to do his thing. So we
[11:21] Speaker 3: asked the chat if they're riding or fading with your
[11:24] Speaker 3: picks tonight. Over 1,300 voters, 58% said they're riding. They're
[11:28] Speaker 3: rolling with you, Kenya. They believe in you.
[11:31] Speaker 1: I know there's no Lakers on the pick-em, but neither
[11:34] Speaker 1: here nor there.
[11:34] Speaker 3: Never.
[11:35] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what you know. And speaking
[11:40] Speaker 1: of winning bread and taking underdogs money, Gil, your pack
[11:44] Speaker 1: hit yesterday on the underdog app as well. Let's take
[11:47] Speaker 1: a look.
[11:48] Speaker 3: Man, I'm like 91% at this point, man. You know,
[11:51] Speaker 3: you had the 3.17 multiplier.
[11:53] Speaker 1: Don't do too much, man. So for all y'all, if
[11:56] Speaker 1: y'all are tailing Gil's picks, don't forget to tail Gil's
[12:00] Speaker 1: Arena's packs and share your winning entries with us on Twitter,
[12:03] Speaker 1: at Gil's Arena Show. We will post some of those,
[12:05] Speaker 1: show y'all some love. Tag us with your underdog username
[12:08] Speaker 1: for a chance to win bonus underdog credit and get
[12:10] Speaker 1: featured on the show. I also had a pack that
[12:13] Speaker 1: hit last night during the Natty game. I do the
[12:14] Speaker 1: live pick-ems, though. First half, a little slow. Knew that
[12:17] Speaker 1: they would bounce back. Appreciate you, Walter Clayton Jr., Jawan Roberts. No,
[12:21] Speaker 1: it didn't go the way you wanted it to go,
[12:22] Speaker 1: but thank you for getting those four rebounds for me.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sharp. No, it didn't go the way you wanted
[12:25] Speaker 1: it to go. Thank you for getting those 8.5 points
[12:28] Speaker 1: rebounds and assists for me in the second half. It
[12:30] Speaker 1: helped me get some bread as well. But, again, continue
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[13:06] Speaker 1: Gil said if he wins, we all get raises and promotions.
[13:11] Speaker 1: Is he having a second right now?
[13:13] Speaker 4: Who beating you? Another Laker fan. About to be a
[13:18] Speaker 4: Laker sweep. You're always talking about the Lakers, Gil. We
[13:21] Speaker 4: weren't even thinking about the Lakers.
[13:24] Speaker 3: You all right? Of Los Angeles. You all right?
[13:26] Speaker 1: I'm trying not to be. I'm trying to be J.R.
[13:31] Speaker 3: Swift in a minute. This shirt and jacket coming off
[13:35] Speaker 3: at some point, sir. You feel me?
[13:38] Speaker 4: I'm celebrating for 2020. Yeah, I'm doing my 2020 right now.
[13:42] Speaker 4: It ain't 2025 in the summer.
[13:44] Speaker 3: You don't celebrate like you celebrate right now.
[13:46] Speaker 1: You must be stressed. Oh, never.
[13:49] Speaker 3: Do I look stressed?
[13:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:50] Speaker 3: No, man.
[13:51] Speaker 1: Did you see what happened?
[13:53] Speaker 3: Who finds a white man early in the morning?
[13:56] Speaker 1: Nah, nah, that's some black.
[13:58] Speaker 3: Shit right there.
[13:59] Speaker 1: He didn't find no white man. They find the nigga first. No.
[14:03] Speaker 3: Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. He ain't got
[14:08] Speaker 3: no nigga in him. Because you brought him in. Go
[14:13] Speaker 3: with him. Calvin White.
[14:16] Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Let's get to it. It's some
[14:18] Speaker 1: absolutely stunning news. The Denver Nuggets have cleaned house firing
[14:22] Speaker 1: head coach Michael Malone and general manager Calvin Booth.
[14:25] Speaker 3: Let's take a look.
[14:27] Speaker 1: They got a video of it?
[14:28] Speaker 3: So Shams was first with the report. They don't. We
[14:33] Speaker 3: need the... Close caption surveillance video. Nuggets to miss. Malone
[14:41] Speaker 3: in a meeting today. We can read it.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Malone is the winningest coach in franchise history since being
[14:46] Speaker 1: hired in 2015. Led the Nuggets in the 2023 NBA championship.
[14:51] Speaker 1: As mentioned, GM Calvin Booth also fired as well. That's
[14:54] Speaker 1: your boy. You can't, you know. You never want to
[14:56] Speaker 1: see a black man lose his job so close to Easter. Nah, nah,
[15:00] Speaker 1: I don't.
[15:00] Speaker 4: But, you know, he was in the way. He's been
[15:03] Speaker 4: in the way for the last couple years, so, you know,
[15:06] Speaker 4: move the fuck on.
[15:07] Speaker 1: So, per ESPN Research, this is the latest coaching change
[15:09] Speaker 1: in NBA history tying Hubie Brown in 1980-81. Can we
[15:14] Speaker 1: get some napkins, please, in the arena?
[15:15] Speaker 3: Nah, nah, nah, nah. You got that move? Click on.
[15:18] Speaker 3: I'm sorry, baby.
[15:20] Speaker 1: So, lead assistant coach David Adelman takes over as interim
[15:22] Speaker 1: head coach. He is the son of legendary head coach
[15:24] Speaker 1: Rick Adelman. Malone was signed through the 26-27 season and
[15:29] Speaker 1: his nearly 10 seasons in Denver compiled a record of
[15:31] Speaker 1: 471 And 327 in the regular season, 44 and 36
[15:35] Speaker 1: in the postseason. As mentioned, winning a chip in 2023,
[15:38] Speaker 1: reaching the playoffs in each of the last six seasons
[15:42] Speaker 1: would have been seven if he still had a job,
[15:44] Speaker 1: which he does not. What the hell is going on
[15:46] Speaker 1: in Denver right now? We got to start with you, Kenyon.
[15:48] Speaker 1: Former Nugget. Favorite son of Denver and Colorado. Distinguished gentleman. Yeah, nah.
[15:57] Speaker 1: What's going on? Surprise. just what I'm gathering, this was
[16:08] Speaker 1: a thing for a while, some.
[16:10] Speaker 2: Tensions in the building within ownership and by certain aspects.
[16:16] Speaker 2: So I didn't, no one thought it was going to
[16:19] Speaker 2: be right now. Well, somebody. At least see how the
[16:24] Speaker 2: playoffs go, then make the decision, right? But it's, Just
[16:33] Speaker 2: unexpected from the basketball community. Someone who just won a
[16:39] Speaker 2: championship like we stated two years ago. The guys believed
[16:47] Speaker 2: in it, it seemed.
[16:49] Speaker 3: They played out. They always responded to his way of coaching.
[16:54] Speaker 1: Lost four straight.
[16:55] Speaker 3: As of late, like you stated yesterday, they lost four straight.
[16:57] Speaker 1: No, Jamal Murray been out the last five games, though,
[16:59] Speaker 1: with the hamstring. Yeah, so that's a.
[17:02] Speaker 2: That's a factor, but I guess they didn't, they didn't
[17:05] Speaker 2: weigh that into this decision. So I guess whatever the
[17:08] Speaker 2: circumstances was between ownership and him and management was, it
[17:14] Speaker 2: was deeper than rap, right?
[17:17] Speaker 1: As they say, so.
[17:20] Speaker 3: Who's your daddy?
[17:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Josh Crunkin making these decisions. So hopefully this,
[17:25] Speaker 1: this is one he could. What's his name?
[17:28] Speaker 3: Josh.
[17:29] Speaker 1: Josh Kroenke. Kroenke. Stan is the owner. Stan's son. Stan. Kroenke.
[17:34] Speaker 1: Stan Kroenke. He owns the Rams as well. Yeah. I
[17:37] Speaker 1: love that man there.
[17:38] Speaker 3: Hey, can you send him a fruit basket?
[17:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[17:42] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena.
[17:43] Speaker 1: Fruit basket. Put some mangoes in there, please. Good job. Pomegranates. Elaborate,
[17:47] Speaker 1: exotic fruits.
[17:48] Speaker 3: You know what?
[17:48] Speaker 1: Send both. Both of them. Send one to Nico. Son
[17:52] Speaker 1: and father.
[17:53] Speaker 3: Send one to Nico, too. Another one.
[17:56] Speaker 1: Sean, what do you think about the Nuggets?
[17:57] Speaker 3: He's a Rams?
[17:58] Speaker 1: He owns a Rams?
[17:59] Speaker 3: A lot of bread, Gil. He must have seen that
[18:02] Speaker 3: I was ordering a lot of shit. A lot of
[18:03] Speaker 3: Rams shit. That's what he's saying? Yeah, he must have
[18:06] Speaker 3: been like, damn, my Rams shit is going up in
[18:09] Speaker 3: the price. How you feel, Sean? What are we talking about?
[18:18] Speaker 1: How LeBron going to get his fifth championship?
[18:20] Speaker 3: We were talking about the Denver Nuggets firing head coach
[18:23] Speaker 3: Michael Malone after nearly 10 seasons with the team, winning
[18:27] Speaker 3: his coach since 2015 when he took over in Denver
[18:29] Speaker 3: across the NBA.
[18:30] Speaker 1: Also fired GM Calvin Booth.
[18:32] Speaker 3: Is he the last coach that had it this long,
[18:35] Speaker 3: like the longest tenure?
[18:37] Speaker 1: Let me pull it up. What tenure? Steve Kerr.
[18:41] Speaker 3: Him and Steve?
[18:42] Speaker 1: Been around the longest. Well, it's both.
[18:45] Speaker 3: It's both. Doc? Technically. Technically. Not with the same team.
[18:58] Speaker 1: I believe there's a lot of teams that need to
[19:01] Speaker 1: make decisions. Oh, absolutely.
[19:04] Speaker 3: That Denver just made, and I think that that should
[19:07] Speaker 3: come at the detriment of knowing you're going to have
[19:10] Speaker 3: to turn your whole organization upside down. And I think
[19:14] Speaker 3: that's what they just did with Denver, seeing that the
[19:16] Speaker 3: vision that Calvin Booth had They got a championship out
[19:20] Speaker 3: of it. But Mike being there 10 years, getting one championship.
[19:25] Speaker 3: The last two years, the engine ain't been revving like
[19:28] Speaker 3: it's supposed to.
[19:29] Speaker 1: It's been going down. It hasn't been going up.
[19:31] Speaker 3: Calvin didn't make any beneficial moves for the team to
[19:34] Speaker 3: look better and even perform better in the playoffs. So,
[19:38] Speaker 3: you know, it's time to make a move. But I
[19:39] Speaker 3: see Portland. Portland on the clock. Clean house. Clippers on
[19:44] Speaker 3: the clock. Clean house. Chicago Bulls on the clock. Clean house.
[19:48] Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers on the clock. Clean house. Minnesota Timberwolves on
[19:52] Speaker 3: the clock. Clean house. Golden State Warriors on the fucking clock.
[19:57] Speaker 3: If you don't get Steve Kerr out of there. Clean house.
[20:02] Speaker 3: Miami Heat.
[20:03] Speaker 1: It ain't hot no more.
[20:05] Speaker 3: Clean house. It ain't hot no more. Clean house. Dallas Mavericks.
[20:11] Speaker 3: You're kidding around. Hey, you're tired of growing up. Got
[20:14] Speaker 3: to get the fuck out of here. The Pelicans.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Or the Pelicans.
[20:19] Speaker 3: Shit. Willie Green. It ain't never green down there. Ain't
[20:23] Speaker 3: no grass. You got to go. And the Lakers. J.J.
[20:27] Speaker 1: Ritter. Just because I don't fucking like y'all. The hottest man. JJ,
[20:33] Speaker 1: in coaches of the year. You don't got OKC on there?
[20:35] Speaker 3: Nope. Mark Dagnall? Nope.
[20:37] Speaker 1: You just got coach of the year?
[20:38] Speaker 3: I don't care. They in the way. Are you not
[20:42] Speaker 3: getting the memo around here? Have you not got the
[20:45] Speaker 3: memo yet? Wake up. We don't need any help.
[20:47] Speaker 1: Open your eyes.
[20:47] Speaker 3: Be woke. Use the black side of you. We got
[20:50] Speaker 3: our favorite Slovenian.
[20:51] Speaker 1: Woke.
[20:51] Speaker 3: Wake up. In the middle of the season, we got Luka. Unfortunate. Right?
[20:57] Speaker 1: Use the black side.
[20:58] Speaker 3: We're supposed to be brothers. I know, I'm just saying,
[20:59] Speaker 3: in tennis up, man. We're supposed to be brothers. We
[21:02] Speaker 3: got Luka. We don't know how that happened.
[21:04] Speaker 4: The only team that been in our motherfucking way, they
[21:06] Speaker 4: just fired their coach and the GM.
[21:09] Speaker 3: Burping babies.
[21:11] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
[21:11] Speaker 1: His daycare's still open, goddammit.
[21:13] Speaker 3: All right.
[21:13] Speaker 1: They need some more diapers.
[21:15] Speaker 3: Hey, that motherfucker still open and business is popping. They
[21:20] Speaker 3: need some more diapers. Business is booming at Nicola's.
[21:25] Speaker 1: So entering this season here with the longest tenure coaches
[21:27] Speaker 1: in the league, Greg Popovich obviously has some health issues.
[21:30] Speaker 1: Future remains uncertain. Eric Spolstra, second longest tenure. Steve Kerr.
[21:35] Speaker 1: And then fourth and fifth, Michael Malone, who was just
[21:37] Speaker 1: booted today. Taylor Jenkins was in fifth. for longest senior
[21:41] Speaker 1: head coaches. As well, did not finish the season with
[21:44] Speaker 1: their team. Memphis coach. All I knew was Ja. It's
[21:50] Speaker 1: a 22. It's hard out here for NBA coaches.
[21:52] Speaker 3: So here's part of the statement.
[21:53] Speaker 1: From Josh Kroenke. vice chairman of Kroenke Sports and Entertainment,
[22:05] Speaker 1: on the firing of Malone. He said, it's with no
[22:07] Speaker 1: pleasure that we announce that we have relieved Michael Malone
[22:10] Speaker 1: of his head coaching duties effectively, immediately. David Adelman will
[22:15] Speaker 1: assume our head coaching role for the remainder of the
[22:17] Speaker 1: 24-25 season. This decision was not made lightly and was
[22:20] Speaker 1: evaluated very carefully, and we do it only with the
[22:23] Speaker 1: intention of giving our group the best chance at competing
[22:26] Speaker 1: for the 2025 NBA championship and delivering another title to
[22:29] Speaker 1: Denver and our fans everywhere.
[22:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:37] Speaker 1: That man's smart.
[22:38] Speaker 3: I like him. I like him.
[22:40] Speaker 1: Man, that's the smartest white man I know. Cronky and
[22:42] Speaker 1: Hooper played in Mizzou. That's 24 hours, man. Because he
[22:47] Speaker 1: knows what I know. What's that? Lakers win.
[22:51] Speaker 3: Dodgers win. Rams win. You see how that work, right?
[22:58] Speaker 3: When you buy Laker gear, it comes with Rams gear.
[23:01] Speaker 1: That mean they fucking suck.
[23:03] Speaker 3: Huh?
[23:03] Speaker 1: That mean they suck.
[23:04] Speaker 3: Who? Who?
[23:05] Speaker 1: If they give you the shit for free.
[23:07] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. Yeah, they're throwing it in there
[23:09] Speaker 3: for free. That means the team sucks. They know you're
[23:12] Speaker 3: not going to wear it.
[23:14] Speaker 1: Didn't we just get somebody on the Rams? Yo, I'm
[23:17] Speaker 1: a Raiders fan. We got Geno Smith and Pete Carroll.
[23:22] Speaker 3: Okay, but anyway. Not going to be confused with Apollo,
[23:24] Speaker 3: Pete Carroll. We just got a receiver hot off the market, right?
[23:29] Speaker 3: No one cares.
[23:30] Speaker 1: We're not worried about you. No one cares. Y'all lost
[23:33] Speaker 1: Cooper Cunningham.
[23:33] Speaker 3: You don't even know his name. You don't even know
[23:35] Speaker 3: his name. Adams. Devontae Adams, wide receiver. Devontae.
[23:48] Speaker 4: I know you don't have this problem, but look. You
[23:50] Speaker 4: know what this feels like? Because I've never won a championship.
[23:54] Speaker 4: You got this, right?
[23:55] Speaker 1: It's like.
[23:57] Speaker 3: when you find out you don't have to pay child
[23:59] Speaker 3: support no more. That rush you get just like... It's
[24:02] Speaker 3: adrenaline rush.
[24:03] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[24:04] Speaker 3: How would you describe that?
[24:07] Speaker 4: Pocket star speaking back to you and shit. Just your
[24:11] Speaker 4: pocket star, your.
[24:12] Speaker 3: Bank account looking a little fuller and shit. Knowing it
[24:14] Speaker 3: ain't going nowhere. Man. I don't know why I'm so happy,
[24:22] Speaker 3: but I'm happy. Hey, do y'all want to just go
[24:25] Speaker 3: eat lunch? Like, why are we at work, man? Man,
[24:30] Speaker 3: fuck this job, dog. That's the channel. I'm just serious, man.
[24:34] Speaker 1: Hey, man, cut this shit off, man.
[24:35] Speaker 3: Let's go. No boo lunch, man, on me. What?
[24:41] Speaker 1: I got a couple.
[24:44] Speaker 3: White girls for you, man. 300 on the top, man.
[24:45] Speaker 3: Stop the cop.
[24:46] Speaker 1: 100 on the top.
[24:47] Speaker 3: Stop the cop. Not the 150. No, 300. 300.
[24:53] Speaker 1: Good ones. No.
[24:55] Speaker 3: But in all.
[24:57] Speaker 1: Sincerity, we heard Josh Cronk. No, I was serious.
[25:00] Speaker 3: Okay. Why are we at work?
[25:02] Speaker 1: Oh, I need my check, Gil.
[25:03] Speaker 3: Okay.
[25:04] Speaker 1: All right, man. Frankly, tough economic times. I'm trying to
[25:07] Speaker 1: buy some eggs after the show. I need all of
[25:11] Speaker 1: my money.
[25:12] Speaker 3: Eggs is pricey.
[25:13] Speaker 1: But we heard what Josh Kroenke said about the decision
[25:17] Speaker 1: to fire Michael Malone.
[25:18] Speaker 3: This damn boy is crazy, man. So we'll go over
[25:21] Speaker 3: to you, Kenya.
[25:21] Speaker 1: Do you believe this move improves the Nuggets' chances to
[25:24] Speaker 1: win the 2025 title, as Kroenke said?
[25:29] Speaker 3: It's hard for me to believe when the guy that
[25:30] Speaker 3: you fired got a championship. Like, if he didn't have one.
[25:35] Speaker 2: I would probably say, okay, cool, I can ride. I
[25:38] Speaker 2: hear you, Josh, but... The fact that the guy got
[25:42] Speaker 2: one and it was like, very recently, right?
[25:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard for me to believe, but hey, they money,
[25:55] Speaker 3: they team.
[25:56] Speaker 1: Do what the fuck they wanna do.
[26:01] Speaker 3: Hope it work out for them.
[26:04] Speaker 1: So how do you believe that this move helped?
[26:05] Speaker 3: Hey, y'all want hookah? I just bought six new hookahs, man.
[26:08] Speaker 3: I think it's T hookah. Buy 77. It's tea hookah.
[26:12] Speaker 3: So you're not smoking hookah, you're smoking tea.
[26:14] Speaker 1: Smoking tea?
[26:15] Speaker 3: Yeah. Word?
[26:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, I got sticks up. That's the new shit?
[26:18] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. I tried. All right.
[26:20] Speaker 1: You know how to do it?
[26:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, hookah for everybody, man. Gil is bringing- Luka-Luka, man. Luka-Luka, man.
[26:28] Speaker 3: Gil is blasting the arena. Luka-Luka. Hey, Sean, I'm sorry, man.
[26:33] Speaker 3: Who else needs to get fired for us to get
[26:37] Speaker 3: a raise? Yeah, OKC, man, go ahead and fire that motherfucker. Hey,
[26:41] Speaker 3: Sam Preston, fire y'all goddamn head coach. We might get
[26:44] Speaker 3: a raise around this bitch.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Thunder just lost by 26 to the Lakers. I would
[26:48] Speaker 1: say Dagnall's job in jeopardy. Don't know if he's the
[26:50] Speaker 1: man to lead that squad into the playoffs. Yeah, we
[26:53] Speaker 1: need to fire him so we can get a raise.
[26:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, yeah.
[26:56] Speaker 1: He made a dunker.
[26:57] Speaker 3: I don't know. Man.
[26:58] Speaker 1: This is crazy.
[27:01] Speaker 3: Well, let's move over to this side of the couch.
[27:02] Speaker 1: Sean, do you believe this move improves the Nuggets' chances
[27:04] Speaker 1: to win the 2025 title? Did you come up with
[27:10] Speaker 1: that question? This is a question. He said it in
[27:12] Speaker 1: his statement. We fired him because we think it improves
[27:14] Speaker 1: our chances of winning a title. From Josh Cronky's mouth himself.
[27:19] Speaker 3: That means that they got some internal shit that they answering.
[27:23] Speaker 3: Questions that are looming about whether or not he can
[27:26] Speaker 3: take this team to the next level. Currently, I think
[27:29] Speaker 3: that has been addressed. And I think they were colluding
[27:34] Speaker 3: between him and Calvin Booth, and they just found out
[27:37] Speaker 3: about the coup. Both of y'all can go and then
[27:41] Speaker 3: figure it out. If they start playing better after this,
[27:43] Speaker 3: you're just going to know what it was. Yeah.
[27:49] Speaker 2: So for, I've been thinking about like just the, the
[27:53] Speaker 2: draft picks that they've had, like they've only like, like
[27:56] Speaker 2: Christian Brown kid, the only one that's really, I'm saying
[27:59] Speaker 2: Peyton Wilder, yeah, but you really took a risk on him.
[28:05] Speaker 2: Because he really didn't play in college. One year at UCLA,
[28:09] Speaker 2: didn't play much. Didn't really play much.
[28:10] Speaker 3: Had a solid tournament, ended up getting selected with the 36th.
[28:13] Speaker 3: And then that's that, like we like really young.
[28:15] Speaker 1: Guys shit from Calvin Booth, right? Yeah, like that's like, so....
[28:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, like Zeke Najee, y'all been like holding on to this.
[28:25] Speaker 3: It's shit around there that you, at the end of
[28:29] Speaker 3: that bench, you like, what the fuck have y'all been
[28:31] Speaker 3: doing around here? So I get that part of it.
[28:34] Speaker 3: I've always thought that, but I thought Michael Malone did
[28:36] Speaker 3: an excellent job with the hand that he had been
[28:40] Speaker 3: dealt for as the roster at maximizing that talent because
[28:44] Speaker 3: you had this equalizer in Nikola that made everybody around
[28:47] Speaker 3: him better. He had a lot of deficiencies. Now, I
[28:54] Speaker 3: guess that roster is not what they've been.
[28:57] Speaker 1: The roster's been pretty consistent, minus losing to KCP. I'm
[29:01] Speaker 1: just saying, like, with that core. Yeah, but it's just like,
[29:03] Speaker 1: what else have you added? Like, Jamal Murray's out. Then
[29:06] Speaker 1: it's like, what else have you added? So, I just didn't,
[29:13] Speaker 1: I don't understand it right now. I understand if they
[29:16] Speaker 1: have a first-round exit. I get that, right? Then you're like, okay,
[29:21] Speaker 1: now what do we need to do to readjust these things?
[29:24] Speaker 3: Hey, Liam, how you doing?
[29:25] Speaker 1: This goddamn boy.
[29:26] Speaker 3: Doing well, man. Thank you for meeting with me yesterday.
[29:29] Speaker 3: I had a great conversation. I hope you felt the
[29:31] Speaker 3: same way. I feel good.
[29:33] Speaker 1: Hey, we're live right now.
[29:35] Speaker 4: I'm just wondering, hey, can we get a Lakers suite
[29:38] Speaker 4: through the playoffs soon?
[29:41] Speaker 1: Yes, Gil!
[29:43] Speaker 3: Yes! You're on the spot. You're on the air. You're
[29:45] Speaker 3: on air, too.
[29:47] Speaker 1: Don't play with us.
[29:47] Speaker 3: We're trying to get a Lakers suite. Hey, man, that's
[29:51] Speaker 3: some guys. You have to feel special because he actually
[29:54] Speaker 3: called you.
[29:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we just need the Laker suite. You know,
[29:57] Speaker 1: it can fit about 20, 27, 28 of us. Well,
[29:59] Speaker 1: does everybody want to go? Yeah, we'll figure that out.
[30:02] Speaker 1: Does everybody want to go?
[30:04] Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man. Hey, Crystal, can you send him
[30:07] Speaker 3: a fruit basket? Send Liam a fruit basket.
[30:10] Speaker 1: Everybody get fruit baskets.
[30:11] Speaker 3: Exotic fruit.
[30:11] Speaker 1: Everybody get fruit baskets.
[30:13] Speaker 3: Everybody's getting fruit baskets today here on Gills Arena presented
[30:16] Speaker 3: by $ 100. Everybody gets fruit baskets. That's the money man
[30:19] Speaker 3: right there.
[30:20] Speaker 1: I don't roll with the Lakers though. They're going.
[30:23] Speaker 6: They're going to be in the building. They're going to
[30:26] Speaker 6: root for the other team. They're going to have to
[30:29] Speaker 6: see this. But you look at the West standings right now.
[30:32] Speaker 6: Nuggets in fourth place. You got four teams behind them
[30:36] Speaker 6: that are all 46 and 32. They're trying to make
[30:39] Speaker 6: a playoff push.
[30:41] Speaker 1: Three games left in their season. They fire Michael Malone,
[30:46] Speaker 1: the man who led them to a championship in 2023.
[30:48] Speaker 3: Am I tripping?
[30:50] Speaker 2: This shit don't make no sense. It doesn't, but I
[30:52] Speaker 2: guess it makes sense to them. That's all it needs
[30:54] Speaker 2: to make sense to. They did it. Like I said,
[30:55] Speaker 2: they teamed their money.
[31:00] Speaker 1: Smart man right there. Fuck, we ask them questions.
[31:02] Speaker 3: Because none of us, nobody has the answer, so it's
[31:09] Speaker 3: a lot of what-ifs right now.
[31:11] Speaker 2: It's a lot of speculation and what-ifs, and Like I said,
[31:14] Speaker 2: it's whatever the conversations that they've been having with Adelman,
[31:23] Speaker 2: let them to believe that he can do the job.
[31:32] Speaker 1: So, Shod, you read off a list of coaches that
[31:34] Speaker 1: you think can move around. So, since 2019.
[31:36] Speaker 3: I ain't going to let you pack my man Big
[31:38] Speaker 3: Shot up, though.
[31:39] Speaker 1: He got to go, man. Now, they showed growth this year.
[31:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, they did. It showed growth. It did. It did.
[31:46] Speaker 3: It did.
[31:48] Speaker 1: I'll give him another one. It's unfortunate, man. So since 2019,
[31:52] Speaker 1: here's how NBA championship head coaches are fair. So Nick Nurse,
[31:55] Speaker 1: no longer with the Raptors, obviously with the Sixers. Frank
[31:57] Speaker 1: Vogel won in 2020 with the Lakers. Does not have
[32:00] Speaker 1: a job with the Lakers anymore. Mike Boothoser, 2021 with
[32:02] Speaker 1: the Bucs. No longer with the Bucs, coaching with the
[32:05] Speaker 1: Suns right now. Steve Kerr, 2022, still has a job.
[32:08] Speaker 1: Michael Malone, 2023. Got the boot. Obviously Joe Mazzulla won
[32:11] Speaker 1: last year. Safer now. You better off not winning.
[32:19] Speaker 2: You better off, listen, there's two things you better off
[32:22] Speaker 2: not doing in this NBA. Being the Lakers head coach,
[32:25] Speaker 2: because you only got the job for two years.
[32:27] Speaker 3: Right? Win or lose. Win or lose. With two years and, well,
[32:34] Speaker 3: three things. Coach of the year and winning the NBA championships.
[32:39] Speaker 2: It seems that those hold no, so you better off
[32:43] Speaker 2: Just playing the game and tanking and losing and being
[32:47] Speaker 2: mediocre and get to keep the job.
[32:50] Speaker 1: That's crazy. When you think about it.
[32:53] Speaker 3: Right. You win.
[32:55] Speaker 1: Give them the hope to win and you get to stay,
[32:57] Speaker 1: but actually do it. You win and then.
[33:00] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[33:01] Speaker 1: Your window is. You stay high up there, but you
[33:03] Speaker 1: don't win no more.
[33:03] Speaker 3: You get fired. But if you just stay. You just stay.
[33:06] Speaker 1: Progressing.
[33:07] Speaker 2: Should we on the doorstep? Should we right there? Should
[33:10] Speaker 2: we competing for one?
[33:12] Speaker 3: Unfortunately.
[33:13] Speaker 1: That's crazy.
[33:15] Speaker 3: There's only one show that's lasted the past 25 years.
[33:18] Speaker 3: I think that's The Simpsons. Right? All the other shows,
[33:23] Speaker 3: they got shelf life. All the other shows get like five,
[33:28] Speaker 3: six seasons. And we tired of this shit. Law and order.
[33:33] Speaker 3: You got law and order. You know what I'm saying?
[33:36] Speaker 3: You got certain shit that's like, okay, we get it.
[33:39] Speaker 3: You got a formula for this shit, right?
[33:42] Speaker 1: Everybody else, like, you trying.
[33:44] Speaker 3: Empire. That's Portland and Chauncey and them, that's Empire.
[33:48] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[33:51] Speaker 3: At some point, you got to.
[33:52] Speaker 1: You saying black don't lie. I'm just saying, at some point,
[33:55] Speaker 1: it's B.E.T. I should have known when they started saying Mike.
[33:58] Speaker 1: Not Michael.
[34:00] Speaker 3: Michael.
[34:01] Speaker 1: As soon as they hit his name, Mike got fired.
[34:04] Speaker 1: That's crazy. And if they can.
[34:07] Speaker 3: Get rid of him in 10 years, everybody else, man, listen.
[34:11] Speaker 3: Especially you not winning? What do you mean? Why would
[34:14] Speaker 3: we keep you around?
[34:15] Speaker 1: Well, they ain't winning. They just won a championship.
[34:17] Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about home. I'm talking about everybody
[34:19] Speaker 3: else that think that they cool. Yeah, we ain't safe. Man,
[34:24] Speaker 3: even Spoh, it's like Spoh.
[34:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[34:26] Speaker 3: What are we doing? If they just got rid of Mike.
[34:29] Speaker 1: I agree with a few of the names on your list.
[34:30] Speaker 1: I think it's time for them to, I think Miami
[34:32] Speaker 1: need a different situation.
[34:34] Speaker 3: Damn. Indiana. Both of them.
[34:38] Speaker 1: They tied together. Project Pat. Just like Denver.
[34:41] Speaker 3: I'll be telling Mickey, hey man, just give me a chance.
[34:43] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[34:44] Speaker 2: Just like Denver because I ain't got to do it
[34:45] Speaker 2: my way yet if I'm Spoke. I ain't got to
[34:48] Speaker 2: do it my way yet. You're talking about without Pat?
[34:50] Speaker 2: Without Pat. So I get that. Like, I can dig that.
[34:54] Speaker 2: He's still in his extension, though. He just signed.
[34:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just... So he cool, but I'm just like, still,
[35:00] Speaker 3: clean house.
[35:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I fire myself and go upstairs.
[35:02] Speaker 3: Hey, man, you let him go.
[35:03] Speaker 1: I just go upstairs and then... Yeah, yeah. Just like
[35:06] Speaker 1: what's-her-name did, Brad Stevens. Mm-hmm. Say what now?
[35:12] Speaker 3: Y'all want to do another one? Oh, no, no, no.
[35:14] Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, you want this job?
[35:16] Speaker 3: All right.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Conventional thought being that you don't fire a coach this
[35:21] Speaker 1: late in the season when you're playoff bound because it
[35:22] Speaker 1: may disrupt team chemistry. Two teams did it.
[35:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if this is actually the best time
[35:27] Speaker 3: to do it? What if this is actually the best
[35:29] Speaker 3: time to do it? Why wait for a playoff run
[35:31] Speaker 3: if you're not going to chip anyway?
[35:34] Speaker 1: You still got to pan.
[35:36] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:38] Speaker 2: They've been hearing the same voice all year. I really
[35:40] Speaker 2: don't understand. For other teams, yeah, if you don't have
[35:44] Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic on your team.
[35:47] Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, okay, we in the play-in game, right?
[35:58] Speaker 1: We in 10th.
[35:59] Speaker 3: We in 9th, 10th again.
[36:02] Speaker 1: Some shit like that, then, okay. Currently 4th in the
[36:05] Speaker 1: West right now. They got three games remaining.
[36:08] Speaker 2: Like, let's be honest, with the health of Jamar Murray, man,
[36:11] Speaker 2: they a problem for anybody to play.
[36:15] Speaker 1: So, on any given night. Yeah. Well, like we mentioned,
[36:18] Speaker 1: Jamal Murray missed the last five games before he got fired.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Michael Malone said he would probably be back around playoff time.
[36:23] Speaker 2: It was day-to-day. Yeah, but you know, they're probably holding
[36:26] Speaker 2: him out. They're trying to still float. Trying to hold
[36:28] Speaker 2: him out so he come back healthy. They don't want
[36:31] Speaker 2: him to look like he did last year in the playoff,
[36:33] Speaker 2: dragging their leg around.
[36:34] Speaker 3: Right?
[36:36] Speaker 1: So... Yeah, it's nasty work, man.
[36:42] Speaker 2: Like to fire him with three games left into the
[36:45] Speaker 2: season and you.
[36:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have a chance to make the playoffs, yeah,
[36:50] Speaker 2: that's one thing, but you in it.
[36:53] Speaker 1: Like, you are in it.
[36:55] Speaker 2: The worst you can do is lose these three and
[36:58] Speaker 2: be seven, like some shit like that, so it's... Yeah.
[37:02] Speaker 1: What's the worst that can happen, though?
[37:04] Speaker 3: Huh?
[37:04] Speaker 1: What's the worst that can happen? Win a championship.
[37:08] Speaker 3: The worst that can happen, win a championship. The worst
[37:09] Speaker 3: that can happen, win a championship. Thinking about who they hire. So,
[37:14] Speaker 3: David Adelman, Rick Adelman's son, is taking over as interim
[37:16] Speaker 3: head coach. He was assistant. Okay. Wait, wait. That's privileged.
[37:20] Speaker 1: What is that called? That's what we... Nepotism.
[37:23] Speaker 3: Isn't that nepotism?
[37:24] Speaker 1: No, he's been there. Oh.
[37:28] Speaker 3: Nothing changes for them. Nothing changes. They keep going. It's
[37:31] Speaker 3: just Mike probably had the energy. They want to get
[37:34] Speaker 3: rid of that energy. It's just like the Missoula situation.
[37:38] Speaker 3: He made it in Boston. You know, Joe was there
[37:41] Speaker 3: the whole time. He seen what was going down, sat
[37:44] Speaker 3: back and watched the shit go down.
[37:45] Speaker 1: I dig it.
[37:46] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So, I don't think Nikola
[37:48] Speaker 3: gonna have anything different happen.
[37:51] Speaker 1: For sure. The hookah has entered the arena. Damn good,
[37:57] Speaker 1: that's an elaborate hookah. You weren't gonna make it smoking
[37:59] Speaker 1: that cigar, I can tell you that shit.
[38:00] Speaker 3: You got a digital hookah? What is that?
[38:02] Speaker 1: It's that tea hookah. She said it's heating up.
[38:05] Speaker 3: Huh?
[38:06] Speaker 4: You never had a job at the hookah place? You
[38:07] Speaker 4: supposed to do it for us. You don't bring us
[38:09] Speaker 4: cold hookah. You supposed to already done... Bring a high rock. Don't, Chris,
[38:13] Speaker 4: a Gil on one today. Already questioning my blackness.
[38:16] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey! My man said he want one, too.
[38:18] Speaker 3: There's a white one up there. Oh. Hey, we got you.
[38:24] Speaker 3: Gil hitting the hookah. We got another white one, too. Hey,
[38:27] Speaker 3: there's four more boxes. Look for the white one.
[38:29] Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, people getting fired today.
[38:31] Speaker 3: Don't be one of them. He on one today.
[38:34] Speaker 1: Don't be.
[38:35] Speaker 3: You giving off... Bad boy executive vibes right now. You
[38:42] Speaker 3: giving off. You giving off. You giving off. Go get
[38:45] Speaker 3: the baby org vibes, man. What is you on right now, man?
[38:50] Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now, when we win
[38:52] Speaker 3: that championship, I guarantee you I'm going to Costco. There's
[38:56] Speaker 3: about to be a baby org party around that motherfucker.
[39:01] Speaker 3: We're going to have your grandma's couches around here.
[39:03] Speaker 4: It's going to be all goddamn plastic around here, just
[39:06] Speaker 4: slipping and sliding.
[39:08] Speaker 1: You shouldn't come to work that day. Ladies and gentlemen,
[39:14] Speaker 1: an inspired day here in Gilda.
[39:15] Speaker 3: Hey, y'all got some of them, like, the celebration pops.
[39:17] Speaker 1: What is wrong with you guys? Are y'all not happy?
[39:21] Speaker 3: Why am I the only one happy? Like, you know,
[39:24] Speaker 3: when we boom, like the pow. Hey, come on, y'all.
[39:29] Speaker 3: We got our balloon. I don't think y'all know, like,
[39:33] Speaker 3: what happened. Are y'all not knowing what happened? What happened, Gil? Huh?
[39:37] Speaker 3: What happened? The coach.
[39:39] Speaker 1: He was fired?
[39:40] Speaker 3: The man who brought life in the team. The man
[39:44] Speaker 3: who stuck up for the team. The cocky motherfucker that
[39:47] Speaker 3: used to talk shit. Gone. Who's your daddy?
[39:51] Speaker 1: This is a fake chain I have. Westbrook from L.A.
[39:55] Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook.
[39:55] Speaker 3: Now the L.A. man running the show. Yeah, he ain't
[40:00] Speaker 3: listening to us.
[40:00] Speaker 1: This is because I can tell you, that's the show.
[40:02] Speaker 1: Pop that. Yeah, pop that. Come on, Carolyn.
[40:05] Speaker 3: Pop it. Come on, pop it. Goddamn, pop it. Get
[40:08] Speaker 3: another one.
[40:10] Speaker 1: You're aiming it right at me, though. You got to
[40:12] Speaker 1: get another one.
[40:12] Speaker 3: You're aiming it right at me.
[40:14] Speaker 1: You see what happens? We put you on the clock.
[40:16] Speaker 3: Goddamn.
[40:21] Speaker 1: There, fucking up in the back, my airpods. Damn, airpod
[40:26] Speaker 1: in the couch. Yo got the hookah.
[40:34] Speaker 4: That's how Luka feels, man. When he's at David Buffer.
[40:40] Speaker 4: That's how he was in Dallas, man.
[40:43] Speaker 1: At the hookah lounge.
[40:48] Speaker 3: Gil hitting the hooker.
[40:50] Speaker 1: Woo!
[40:53] Speaker 3: You got to give a warning. You got to warn her.
[40:55] Speaker 3: You've seen her. You've seen her twist it. Warn her brother.
[40:58] Speaker 3: Warn her brother.
[41:01] Speaker 1: Oh, man. That was a good celebration, man. That shit
[41:03] Speaker 1: was loud. Can we get a moment of silence for
[41:05] Speaker 1: Michael Malone, please?
[41:07] Speaker 3: How do I? You think you can do this to me?
[41:12] Speaker 1: I hope he took his playbook.
[41:15] Speaker 3: Left it at the facility.
[41:18] Speaker 1: What else you think they gonna run?
[41:19] Speaker 3: I don't know, man, but look.
[41:21] Speaker 2: No, they won a championship running this shit. What you
[41:23] Speaker 2: think they finna run? I just have a quick doubt.
[41:30] Speaker 2: Ask them what you think they about to run.
[41:31] Speaker 3: Like, I heard us.
[41:33] Speaker 1: Hey, number 15 and number 27.
[41:37] Speaker 3: No, I get them two, but I think they gonna boycott.
[41:42] Speaker 1: Should they just cancel the season?
[41:44] Speaker 3: Why not? This is reminding me of COVID. This reminds
[41:51] Speaker 3: me of COVID. Clippers balling before COVID.
[41:56] Speaker 1: Donald Trump shut this shit down.
[41:57] Speaker 4: Because you know he a Laker fan. He shut this
[42:00] Speaker 4: shit down. And then Lakers, we was the only one practicing.
[42:05] Speaker 4: Everybody else was relaxing. We was practicing for real. When
[42:09] Speaker 4: they said we ain't supposed to be in the gym,
[42:10] Speaker 4: we was in the gym. Not maintaining six feet distance?
[42:12] Speaker 1: Uh-uh, no.
[42:13] Speaker 4: We didn't give a fuck about none of that. And
[42:16] Speaker 4: then we came back healthy, won the chip. This is
[42:19] Speaker 4: what's going on right now. Last time Donald Trump was
[42:24] Speaker 4: in office.
[42:24] Speaker 1: We won, right?
[42:29] Speaker 3: Accurate. It's in the cards.
[42:34] Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Kendrick Lamar.
[42:38] Speaker 3: Alba.
[42:38] Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right? Los Angeles, native. Dodgers won, right? Ready
[42:46] Speaker 1: for you to make Grand Slam game one.
[42:48] Speaker 3: Ovechkin.
[42:51] Speaker 1: Just broke the record.
[42:52] Speaker 3: Gold's record. I don't know what that has to do
[42:54] Speaker 3: with anything.
[42:56] Speaker 4: Shout out Ovi. No, because I was in D.C. You know,
[42:59] Speaker 4: you got to just parallel. Just put it all together.
[43:05] Speaker 4: Rams is right down the street. I mean, everything's lining up, man.
[43:16] Speaker 3: All I'm saying is, man, the gods is on our
[43:20] Speaker 3: sides right now.
[43:21] Speaker 1: Which gods? The basketball gods, just them L.A. gods. Ladies
[43:34] Speaker 1: and gentlemen, that is our show for the day.
[43:35] Speaker 3: Thank you so much for pulling up. I've been trying
[43:37] Speaker 3: to tell you, man.
[43:38] Speaker 1: We are going to the L.A.
[43:39] Speaker 7: No, boo.
[43:40] Speaker 1: No, yeah, we can go. You want to go to
[43:42] Speaker 1: that strip club? What strip club do you go to
[43:43] Speaker 1: during the day? I go to church.
[43:45] Speaker 3: He goes to church during the day. My wife go
[43:50] Speaker 3: to church.
[43:52] Speaker 1: You don't know what kind of strippers at church.
[43:57] Speaker 3: Hope. Wait, what? Hope works evenings. They sin at night
[44:02] Speaker 3: and then ask forgiveness during the day? No, they don't
[44:05] Speaker 3: ask for forgiveness during the day, Gilbert. They still sinning.
[44:10] Speaker 3: They still.
[44:12] Speaker 3: Look at this, you see this shit ain't playing.
[44:14] Speaker 1: Who, Laker popcorn?
[44:17] Speaker 3: Look at this. We've been ready for this, man. You
[44:22] Speaker 3: can eat some. I think he on the bench, yeah. Canyon,
[44:27] Speaker 3: that's my good computer. That's my good computer, Canyon. I
[44:33] Speaker 3: don't know if you know nothing about me. I'ma still
[44:36] Speaker 3: eat it. It don't taste good.
[44:40] Speaker 1: That's that purple popcorn. God is gracious. He made me
[44:44] Speaker 1: do it. Look. Made me do that, so. No, I mean,
[44:47] Speaker 1: he's still. I'm telling you, I'm not shaking. I mean,
[44:50] Speaker 1: better to fire Michael Malone now to avoid the inevitable?
[44:54] Speaker 1: When I heard the music, I said, do it, do it,
[44:56] Speaker 1: do it.
[44:56] Speaker 3: That music do get you impressed. Yeah, baby, it was like, yeah,
[45:00] Speaker 3: if you don't do it, I'm going to beat your ass.
[45:03] Speaker 3: I was like, ah. I was like, ah, do it,
[45:05] Speaker 3: do it, nigga, do it. Do it, too, nigga, do it, too.
[45:08] Speaker 3: I didn't mean to. That's not how I function.
[45:14] Speaker 1: I'm non-violent. I'm non-violent. Stanley left his window open. It's decoration.
[45:21] Speaker 3: Are you 100% confident? He wanted the scene to be
[45:23] Speaker 3: gold and purple. Huh?
[45:26] Speaker 1: Are you 100% confident in the Lakers winning the chip?
[45:28] Speaker 1: So you got the trophy already. Oh, you see the
[45:30] Speaker 1: trophy here?
[45:31] Speaker 3: Hold up.
[45:31] Speaker 1: What's that?
[45:31] Speaker 3: 7-11. 7-11. That's all nigga rolling. As soon as we
[45:34] Speaker 3: got Luka, my whole world became Laker.
[45:42] Speaker 1: As soon as that white man came over here. I
[45:46] Speaker 1: don't want that.
[45:46] Speaker 3: Our favorite Caucasians.
[45:48] Speaker 1: I'm not celebrating that man losing his job.
[45:51] Speaker 3: No? We're not worried about that. We're not celebrating that.
[45:56] Speaker 3: That's the least we can celebrate. That's exactly what we're celebrating.
[46:00] Speaker 1: Celebrating the white man losing his job.
[46:02] Speaker 3: That's exactly what he's celebrating.
[46:04] Speaker 1: We got one back. I would fight against that. I
[46:07] Speaker 1: would fight against that. Don't want any more popcorn making
[46:14] Speaker 1: its way onto the floor. But back to the Nuggets discussion.
[46:22] Speaker 1: So we talked about Michael Malone getting fired, GM Calvin
[46:24] Speaker 1: Booth getting fired. So as for Calvin Booth's firing, Chris
[46:26] Speaker 1: Haynes reports that the Nuggets and him couldn't reach an
[46:29] Speaker 1: extension agreement before the season.
[46:31] Speaker 3: He was on an expiring contract. They treated Calvin like
[46:35] Speaker 3: a player. And there's also a report from Kevin O'Connor
[46:41] Speaker 3: that both Malone And Booth never liked each other, rarely spoke.
[46:45] Speaker 1: Malone and Calvin Booth? They didn't fuck with each other,
[46:47] Speaker 1: never spoke, talked behind each other's backs. With the team
[46:50] Speaker 1: struggling on the courts, Nuggets ownership decided both of y'all's.
[46:54] Speaker 1: Both of y'all's.
[46:55] Speaker 3: Wow. Told you it was a coup.
[46:59] Speaker 1: Man, I would have signed that contract. Can y'all work
[47:02] Speaker 1: together moving forward?
[47:03] Speaker 3: Probably not. All right, both of y'all go.
[47:05] Speaker 1: That's great. Calvin giving him a bunch of shit he
[47:08] Speaker 1: didn't need and didn't want.
[47:09] Speaker 3: Yeah. What? On purpose.
[47:12] Speaker 1: He didn't fire fast enough.
[47:13] Speaker 3: You want me to draft? Who you want to draft?
[47:15] Speaker 1: I'll take Peyton Watson, motherfucker. Absolutely.
[47:18] Speaker 3: Well, technically, Peyton Watson was top two in the country.
[47:22] Speaker 1: Right? Top two what?
[47:23] Speaker 3: Play in the country. Coming out of high school? He
[47:26] Speaker 3: did cook Chet Holmgren.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Back in high school.
[47:27] Speaker 3: Where he from? Long Beach.
[47:29] Speaker 1: Oh, he from California?
[47:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[47:30] Speaker 1: Went to UCLA, played one season.
[47:31] Speaker 3: But you remember, you know UCLA coaches don't play freshmen.
[47:34] Speaker 3: They do not play freshmen. Had to in the tournament.
[47:37] Speaker 3: Peyton came through.
[47:38] Speaker 1: Better start back. But let's talk about the firing. Obviously,
[47:43] Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic putting together MVP season, trying to win his
[47:46] Speaker 1: fourth MVP in his career. Do you think Joker was
[47:48] Speaker 1: consulted about any of these decisions?
[47:52] Speaker 2: I don't know if he was consulted, but he's going
[47:57] Speaker 2: to go with it. He's not going to make us
[47:59] Speaker 2: think about it. He's going to go with the decision.
[48:00] Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing. Heard they ran it by him.
[48:05] Speaker 2: Wasn't like they asked him, should we or shouldn't we?
[48:08] Speaker 2: this is what we're about to do. And how do
[48:11] Speaker 2: you feel about it? And the Serbian said he cool
[48:15] Speaker 2: with it.
[48:16] Speaker 3: Yeah. Cause I'm still finna go out and average his
[48:20] Speaker 3: triple doubles. We going to play basketball.
[48:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:23] Speaker 3: We going to hoop. That's what he's going to do. Yeah.
[48:25] Speaker 3: You got to know who the person is, the personality. So.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Because other star players around the league when moves like
[48:37] Speaker 1: this happen, uh, They get dubbed a coach killer or
[48:40] Speaker 1: get blamed for that move. Because of personality. Okay. And
[48:47] Speaker 1: maybe previous stops or multiple head coaches. He's only had one, so.
[48:58] Speaker 3: GM Jokic.
[49:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[49:00] Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
[49:02] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, do you think Jokic was
[49:04] Speaker 1: involved in this decision? 60% said no.
[49:07] Speaker 2: I ain't worried about all this. It's my day job. Man,
[49:10] Speaker 2: I come to pass the ball to them and put
[49:12] Speaker 2: the ball in the basket, man. That's what I come
[49:15] Speaker 2: to hear. I'm not involved with all that stuff, man.
[49:19] Speaker 1: But you came to me. We talked about this Nuggets
[49:22] Speaker 1: squad winning championship 2023, have kept most of their core,
[49:25] Speaker 1: kind of a similar roster out of Westbrook, out of
[49:27] Speaker 1: some additional pieces, lost KCP, but have the Nuggets done
[49:31] Speaker 1: enough to surround Joker with a championship level roster? In
[49:36] Speaker 1: my opinion, no.
[49:43] Speaker 2: You got your core I think you need to continue
[49:45] Speaker 2: to try to get better whether it's lack of opportunity
[49:54] Speaker 2: from the draft picks that they've picked and free agents
[49:58] Speaker 2: that they've signed I don't know if it's that and
[50:02] Speaker 2: you get comfortable with playing your guys so those guys
[50:04] Speaker 2: get lost in the fray.
[50:08] Speaker 1: But And a guy like Russ helps. But what else
[50:15] Speaker 1: have you done? Extended Jamal Murray, extended MPJ. You guys there.
[50:21] Speaker 3: Cool.
[50:22] Speaker 1: We won with those guys. So, of course, that's low-hanging fruit.
[50:25] Speaker 1: That's easy to do.
[50:27] Speaker 3: Right?
[50:28] Speaker 2: So we won with these guys. So we know what
[50:29] Speaker 2: they bring to the table. Are you out evaluating the
[50:33] Speaker 2: proper talent to help the shooters we need to put
[50:36] Speaker 2: in place to help another team? DeAndre Jordan is a
[50:40] Speaker 2: solid backup, but do we have a younger big just
[50:44] Speaker 2: in case this guy needs a break? It's just certain
[50:47] Speaker 2: things that I've seen over time that they haven't implemented.
[50:52] Speaker 1: And when Jamal.
[50:55] Speaker 2: Murray is out or if he needs a break, who
[50:57] Speaker 2: is your actual number? Who else can go get a
[51:00] Speaker 2: bucket for you? You haven't addressed that issue. So it's
[51:05] Speaker 2: some things they haven't done in the front office, but yeah,
[51:08] Speaker 2: to your point. questioned, then no, I don't think they've
[51:11] Speaker 2: done enough. We talked about that in the summer, summer league.
[51:15] Speaker 2: I think Michael Porter Jr.
[51:16] Speaker 1: some other guy that said this could very well be
[51:17] Speaker 1: their last dance if they weren't able to get it
[51:19] Speaker 1: done this year.
[51:20] Speaker 3: Well, writing on the wall. Chips are already falling. Dominoes
[51:23] Speaker 3: are already falling. Michael Malone out. Calvin Booth out. Man,
[51:26] Speaker 3: this is the best $ 80 I've ever spent, man.
[51:31] Speaker 1: Send me a fruit basket.
[51:32] Speaker 3: Oh, damn, you got him the good one.
[51:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to get this man.
[51:36] Speaker 1: To Josh and Stan Kroenke, a relationship, you're colleagues. I
[51:39] Speaker 1: respect that. Yeah, you got to respect that. Kroenke Sports Entertainment. Gil,
[51:42] Speaker 1: ordering fruit baskets.
[51:44] Speaker 3: Thought I was playing. No, I didn't. I don't ever
[51:47] Speaker 3: doubt you, Gil. What address are you? Do you know
[51:49] Speaker 3: the address? 1000 Chopper Circle. Yeah. Yeah, God damn it.
[52:00] Speaker 3: That is the fucking address, just for y'all that know.
[52:04] Speaker 3: I was an employee that my way. I went to that.
[52:06] Speaker 2: Motherfucker for seven years. So trust me, that is the
[52:10] Speaker 2: motherfucking address.
[52:11] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[52:12] Speaker 1: You're sending fruit baskets to stay in their jobs, Cronkite.
[52:15] Speaker 3: Yes.
[52:15] Speaker 1: To the Nuggets facility. Oh, shit.
[52:21] Speaker 3: I'm happy, man.
[52:22] Speaker 2: Lisa Johnson probably is going to handle this, so shout
[52:24] Speaker 2: out to Lisa.
[52:25] Speaker 3: She's been there forever, man. She's a wonderful person, man.
[52:28] Speaker 1: Purple and gold fruits. Put it in his mind now.
[52:33] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[52:34] Speaker 1: This fool.
[52:35] Speaker 3: Why everybody so sad on the couch?
[52:37] Speaker 1: This boy is stupid.
[52:42] Speaker 3: So, we talked recently about Grizzlies firing Taylor Jenkins. You
[52:46] Speaker 3: think it's a good move? Hold on.
[52:47] Speaker 2: People think this boy just be capping and talking shit.
[52:52] Speaker 1: I want them to realize this is like.
[52:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, you a special being, dog. I'm just happy to
[52:58] Speaker 1: hear that. You are a special being, man. He's already
[53:03] Speaker 1: sending fruit baskets to the Nuggets.
[53:04] Speaker 2: The world needs more people like this dude, man. I'm
[53:06] Speaker 2: telling y'all, boy, it'll be a lot better place, man.
[53:09] Speaker 1: And you overnight won the dollars, too.
[53:11] Speaker 3: Hey, man, you don't need to win to get one, man.
[53:14] Speaker 1: You probably already sent one. Oh, man. You probably sent
[53:18] Speaker 1: him more than motherfucking fruit baskets. But we talked about
[53:22] Speaker 1: Taylor Jenkins getting fired by the Grizzlies. You think the
[53:24] Speaker 1: Grizzlies go ahead and try to snatch up Michael Malone
[53:27] Speaker 1: right now? Ain't no telling.
[53:31] Speaker 3: He won't be unemployed for long, though. I think we
[53:33] Speaker 3: all know that. They might keep what they have. You
[53:35] Speaker 3: never know with these assistants, man, what they bring to
[53:38] Speaker 3: the table and what it's going to look like. Steve
[53:42] Speaker 3: Nash is up next.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Mind the GamePod co-host. You think he's going to get
[53:48] Speaker 1: another job? That's going to be the pipeline. You got
[53:51] Speaker 1: to be the co-host on Mind the Game to get
[53:53] Speaker 1: a job in the league.
[53:55] Speaker 3: It's an interview process. What's his name? Adam Silver? Is
[53:59] Speaker 3: his name right? Yeah. He's the NBA commissioner.
[54:01] Speaker 1: Set that up. How did the first situation work out?
[54:05] Speaker 3: Very well.
[54:06] Speaker 1: With the Lakers.
[54:07] Speaker 3: Huh? With the Lakers.
[54:09] Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about for him.
[54:10] Speaker 3: Steve?
[54:11] Speaker 1: I don't know. Next up.
[54:17] Speaker 3: That was prior to co-hosting Mind the Game podcast, though. Mm-hmm.
[54:20] Speaker 2: First situation didn't work out. So I don't think he
[54:23] Speaker 2: has the personality to be a head coach.
[54:25] Speaker 1: Who? Steve Nash. Two-time MVP. Give a fuck. Didn't earn him.
[54:33] Speaker 1: Played well. Wasn't his.
[54:34] Speaker 3: When you're on a job interview.
[54:36] Speaker 2: Motherfucker averaged 35 points out in this bitch. You better
[54:39] Speaker 2: stop it. Fuck, this is, yeah, you better, yeah. But yeah,
[54:44] Speaker 2: look up, motherfucker. You hear me over there, you son
[54:47] Speaker 2: of a bitch.
[54:48] Speaker 3: Like, these coaches are getting fired right now. What do
[54:50] Speaker 3: you do?
[54:51] Speaker 1: My average is 35, you know, man.
[54:55] Speaker 3: You going on unemployment?
[54:56] Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just saying, what do you, like, as
[55:00] Speaker 4: the owner, what's the name, like, you firing them right now,
[55:02] Speaker 4: what do you, you really believe that your assistant coach
[55:06] Speaker 4: is going to do a better job than the head coach?
[55:08] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[55:09] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, Adam has been there since 2017, so. He
[55:14] Speaker 1: has a rapport. He has a rapport with them. But
[55:16] Speaker 1: if you're firing Malone to bring in a guy who's
[55:19] Speaker 1: been there with him. You bring in a motherfucker. But
[55:21] Speaker 1: you never know, like, so just, you know, so. Frame vote.
[55:26] Speaker 2: No, no, so when I started hearing it, right, so
[55:27] Speaker 2: you know the offense that Sacramento ran under his pops.
[55:32] Speaker 2: It looks similar to what they're running in Denver, so
[55:34] Speaker 2: I'm thinking that this could very well much be his offense.
[55:37] Speaker 3: Yes.
[55:38] Speaker 1: And it's no, right? Yeah.
[55:42] Speaker 2: It's popped, had Chris Webb at the elbow, Vladi at
[55:45] Speaker 2: the elbow. They ran a lot of split action, a
[55:47] Speaker 2: lot of, so it could have been that, right? So
[55:51] Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I don't know for facts, but I'm, now
[55:55] Speaker 2: that it happened, my, you know, your basketball brain started
[55:59] Speaker 2: to try to put pieces together on why and fit
[56:03] Speaker 2: and things.
[56:04] Speaker 1: And so I'm, Yeah, that'd be, yeah, damn.
[56:11] Speaker 4: See, now that makes, I mean, that actually makes sense
[56:13] Speaker 4: because that means Calvin Booth and, because Calvin Booth was
[56:17] Speaker 4: in the same offense, right?
[56:19] Speaker 3: And probably coach didn't like that offense in a sense.
[56:25] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[56:26] Speaker 4: I don't mean that Calvin Booth came through the same offense,
[56:28] Speaker 4: so they understand the same thing.
[56:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know, man, but it's, it's alarming,
[56:35] Speaker 1: but I don't, Hey, man, we've been on them for
[56:40] Speaker 1: 35 minutes. Yeah, I don't know. Now y'all don't want
[56:43] Speaker 1: to talk about the nuggets.
[56:44] Speaker 3: Now y'all don't want to talk about the nuggets. I
[56:45] Speaker 3: don't know what it looks like. They done. They goose.
[56:48] Speaker 1: Now y'all want to talk about the nuggets.
[56:50] Speaker 3: They cooked.
[56:52] Speaker 1: Are they cooked?
[56:53] Speaker 3: Cooked.
[56:54] Speaker 1: Well done.
[56:55] Speaker 3: Huh? You know, the chat is intrigued by this conversation. Barbecued.
[57:01] Speaker 3: Tee out the hookah. Championship trophy watching. Nosey barbecue. I'm
[57:05] Speaker 3: barbecuing and watching the fight. Meaning this shit burned.
[57:09] Speaker 1: Cooked.
[57:10] Speaker 3: He's out of there. Where's the Laker talk?
[57:14] Speaker 1: Like, I need to.
[57:15] Speaker 3: Does anybody?
[57:16] Speaker 4: Can y'all ask the underdog, like, what is, what just
[57:18] Speaker 4: the probability of Lakers winning now?
[57:20] Speaker 1: I know it had to jump.
[57:22] Speaker 3: It had to.
[57:25] Speaker 1: Like, I'm just being honest. It had to jump up
[57:28] Speaker 1: a little bit. I actually went down. Cap. So, you
[57:34] Speaker 1: don't want to talk Nuggets anymore. Let's talk Clippers. Clippers
[57:36] Speaker 1: currently the fifth seed. Nuggets are the fourth seed. Who
[57:39] Speaker 1: wins in that series if they play right now? It's
[57:47] Speaker 1: a 4-5 matchup. 4-5. Man, I'm... Evita Zubac has been
[57:53] Speaker 1: playing well this year. Yeah. I would hate that for him. Hey,
[58:02] Speaker 1: that's a confidence killer.
[58:04] Speaker 3: What?
[58:08] Speaker 2: Hey, you had the best season of your career and
[58:10] Speaker 2: your reward is Nicola Jokic in the first round.
[58:16] Speaker 1: Shit me. I'd take that challenge.
[58:23] Speaker 3: Huh? Oh, okay. Yeah, I would, too.
[58:25] Speaker 1: Shasher diamonds.
[58:26] Speaker 3: They all got no choice. I would take that challenge
[58:29] Speaker 3: if I was him because you see that if that's
[58:32] Speaker 3: the matchup, my other guys got to figure out how
[58:35] Speaker 3: to offset.
[58:36] Speaker 1: Joker, James, and Kawhi.
[58:38] Speaker 3: Good luck. I'm going to pick up the points in assists,
[58:42] Speaker 3: pick up the points in defense in the three-point shooting,
[58:44] Speaker 3: and we got Norm Powell coming off the bench, and
[58:47] Speaker 3: we can take them down. We can take them down easy.
[58:51] Speaker 3: But we just need Zubac just to be in the way. Yeah,
[58:54] Speaker 3: Joker gonna get his. We already know that. But we
[58:57] Speaker 3: talking about neutralizing the other guys. The Clippers probably the
[59:00] Speaker 3: most dangerous for the Denver Nuggets. Because Zubac is the
[59:04] Speaker 3: only big body that actually knows how.
[59:06] Speaker 1: To guard him.
[59:07] Speaker 3: Can't really stop him, but actually he's big enough to
[59:10] Speaker 3: just be in the way. A.K.A.
[59:12] Speaker 1: Zubach.
[59:13] Speaker 3: Ben Simmons. He can move on the outside. They can
[59:17] Speaker 3: switch that. Yeah, that's... So we asked the chat who
[59:21] Speaker 3: wins the seven-game series.
[59:22] Speaker 1: It's a dangerous matchup.
[59:24] Speaker 3: When he's out of the game, what happens?
[59:27] Speaker 2: Kawhi is... They don't have nobody to guard Kawhi. Like,
[59:31] Speaker 2: that's the thing. With Joker out of the game, what
[59:34] Speaker 2: are you doing? They don't have nobody to guard Kawhi.
[59:36] Speaker 2: Let's say, like, if Joker's put– if you put Ben
[59:38] Speaker 2: Simmons in.
[59:39] Speaker 3: Yeah. Jokic have to guard Ben Simmons at the point
[59:44] Speaker 3: guard position.
[59:45] Speaker 1: But then he gets to relax on others.
[59:46] Speaker 3: So the thing is, it's give and take. If we
[59:50] Speaker 3: guard him on the pick and roll, right, if it's–
[59:53] Speaker 3: you're saying Ben and Joker. Oh, no, you're saying Ben and–
[59:59] Speaker 3: Zubac is guarding Murray and Joker? No, I'm just saying
[1:00:04] Speaker 3: when Zubac goes in and then Ben Simmons is at
[1:00:07] Speaker 3: the point.
[1:00:08] Speaker 4: You put Ben at the five and now Ben is
[1:00:11] Speaker 4: the point.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: So my question is that switch.
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: Are they going to switch that pick and roll regardless?
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: So we're not just going to guard Joker in the post,
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: head up with Ben Simmons.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: If they do put Ben, he don't really have to
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: guard Ben. Now he's roaming and.
[1:00:28] Speaker 4: But it's hard when your big man is sitting in
[1:00:31] Speaker 4: the lane when Ben Simmons has the ball.
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: But he ain't going to shoot it, so who gives
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: a fuck?
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: But when you say when he has the ball, are
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: you saying he should be a screener? Like you bring
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: the ball up, pass, and screen while he's sitting in
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: the lane. You can do a lot of damage. But
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: if he's sitting in the lane when he has the ball,
[1:00:48] Speaker 3: the damage is not going to be done because he
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: can sit back. No, no, no.
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: Let him sit back. Dribble handoff.
[1:00:52] Speaker 3: Dribble handoff to Kawhi Leonard, James Harden.
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: Make Joker come out.
[1:00:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's going to have that.
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: Well, they'll have special assignment. He's not going to sit
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: back and play.
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: He can't. Not with James Harden.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, because the dribble handoff is all that shit. He's
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: not going to do that. But that's.
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: If they don't put the ball in his hand and
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: he got him out there just screaming and then he
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: could play off and be in the way and shit
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: like that.
[1:01:17] Speaker 3: And then the pick and roll. That pick and slot
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: pop right there. Making a play for everybody else. You
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: got to float that bitch. You got to shoot it.
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: That could be a good series. It would be. So
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: right now we asked the chat who wins in a
[1:01:29] Speaker 3: seven game series. 53% of the chat picked the Los
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers to win.
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: That's a good bump.
[1:01:34] Speaker 3: All right. Well, let's Keep this thing moving. With healthy
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: Jamal Murray, I think, yeah. It'll be a great series.
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: It'll be a great.
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: With a healthy Jamal Murray because James wouldn't, James, it'll
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: offset what James had doing.
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: A little bit.
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: And then it would be Michael Porter, Kawhi, and Michael
[1:01:49] Speaker 3: would have to play an excellent series.
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon would have to guard him. That's, he the
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: X Factor. Him and Peyton Watson have to guard Kawhi.
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: Norm Powell, though, off the bench.
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the, Christian Brown, he'll get hit. You know,
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: I'm probably going to get him fits. Yes.
[1:02:08] Speaker 3: And I think you got Nunn still over there.
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: You're going to get him.
[1:02:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, he's. Defense.
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: And they've got Wesson in the shooter, right?
[1:02:16] Speaker 3: Shaman?
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: No, Boggy. Boggy.
[1:02:19] Speaker 3: Boggy. Boggy.
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: Boggy.
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, so I forgot. Nasty over there. And they seem
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: like they're clicking right now.
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: That's a tough series. That's a tough series for anybody. Yeah,
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: they got a lot of scores. They're clicking right now.
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: It's like, oh, shit. But they have to get it done.
[1:02:35] Speaker 3: They have to do something. They got to get second
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: round better. They can't afford not to do nothing after that.
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: They have to.
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: Because they held Kawhi out and they did all this
[1:02:46] Speaker 2: for this, right?
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: Got rid of PG, didn't pay him. You know what
[1:02:50] Speaker 1: I'm saying?
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: But you've been not– he wasn't healthy last year in
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: last year's playoffs. So it was this buildup, not playing
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: in the Olympics, sitting out the first half of the season,
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: many restrictions. Like this is the times.
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: We're expecting for them to at least get out the
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: first round and make some type of noise.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Clippers a little bit
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: later in the show, but let's keep this thing moving.
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: Got to talk a little college hoops and NBA-related topics.
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: Florida Gators defeated the Houston Cougars to win the natty
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: last night in San Antonio. One notable Spurs player who
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: was spotted there hanging out with a legend of the
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: game was Spurs center Victor Wimbiyama. You see him seated
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: next to Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon. Ample leg room.
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: Shout out, Wimby. Hakeem's a Houston alum who also won
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: two titles, two finals MVPs for the Rockets after being
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: drafted first overall in 1984 ahead of Michael Jordan. So
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: we know Wimby's missing the entire second half of this
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: regular season as he recovers from a blood clot in
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: his right shoulder. Spurs remain optimistic about his chances to
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: make a full recovery ahead of next season. So we
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: all know Hakeem trains players in the offseason for a
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: small fee of $ 50, 000.
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: Yeah! Yeah.
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: Y'all damn stupid. Yeah.
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: Here's Hooka Luka. I'm interested to try this. Can you
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: also receive this? It ain't brand new. We ain't even
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: out the box. I'm interested to try. You say this
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: is tea. Smoking tea. Yeah.
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: But like I mentioned, Wimby sitting with Akeem at the
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: Natty game last night. Akeem trains players in the offseason
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: for the small fee of $ 50, 000.
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: $ 50, 000.
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: Again, you've had some thoughts on Hakeem training players previously.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: Should Wimby work out with Hakeem in the offseason?
[1:04:40] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: You believe that Victor Wimby Yama should work out with
[1:04:43] Speaker 1: Hakeem Olajuwon?
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: That's surprising. No, no, because Wimby actually has footwork.
[1:04:49] Speaker 4: He already has the footwork to work out with Hakeem.
[1:04:53] Speaker 4: This is the real problem. Hakeem learned his footwork from soccer. Right,
[1:05:00] Speaker 4: so what comes to him naturally, he gained it when
[1:05:04] Speaker 4: he was a little kid. Right, so when he's teaching
[1:05:06] Speaker 4: these really high athletes, he don't remember the basics that,
[1:05:12] Speaker 4: like so if you're Hakeem, what you want to do
[1:05:14] Speaker 4: is for all these high jumping motherfuckers who don't have footwork,
[1:05:17] Speaker 4: teach them the footwork first before you're trying to give
[1:05:19] Speaker 4: them these moves.
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: Winby has the footwork. So everything you're teaching him, he will.
[1:05:24] Speaker 4: Understand how to not make it a travel and actually
[1:05:27] Speaker 4: learn how to do it in the game.
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: Right? So that's the thing.
[1:05:30] Speaker 4: It's like Melo doing it, fine. Kobe doing it, fine.
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: You're trying to teach LeBron James, Amari Stoudemire, all these
[1:05:38] Speaker 3: really high-jumping dudes who don't have the basic footwork and
[1:05:41] Speaker 3: they just use athleticism, it will hurt them in this
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: workout because they're not going to know the understanding of,
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: I got to drop the ball first before I take
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: the step. So I'm doing the same thing you're doing,
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: but I'm doing two steps. I'm doing a hop step, right?
[1:05:53] Speaker 4: So it's usually the fundamentals, and he's not teaching the
[1:05:55] Speaker 4: fundamentals to these pros that need the fundamentals first. So
[1:05:59] Speaker 4: I wouldn't have him work out with, you know, the Giannis,
[1:06:04] Speaker 4: but I have him work out with him. He can
[1:06:06] Speaker 4: work out with him, Lucas, Shea, Jokic, those guys that
[1:06:11] Speaker 4: work well with his footwork already.
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: My pause is with today's game, right? And the evolution
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: of the Euro step, the same hand, same.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: Leg, all that shit, right? He's doing all that already.
[1:06:43] Speaker 3: So what....
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: What more can, because like you said, he has the footwork.
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: If he's doing all those things already, that is today's game.
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: He already is doing an up and under. You can already,
[1:06:59] Speaker 2: because he doesn't, he don't need to do a fucking
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: dream shake. He can just turn and shoot. Who's blocking it?
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: He can just turn and shoot over anybody.
[1:07:09] Speaker 3: Right? I don't have to trick you. Right? Yep.
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: Boom, boom, simple, motherfucking left shoulder jump hook. Who's, like,
[1:07:18] Speaker 2: so my thing, yeah, if it's a more, like you said,
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: a less athletic guy, like you said, but he's still,
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: for 7'5, he's still athletic. 7'4, 7' whatever, he's still
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: athletic for his size.
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: A less Alpine Sangoon?
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: Good footwork already, but he can benefit from working with Dream, right?
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: Just a few more tricks, shit like that. Because Dream
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: wasn't that athletic.
[1:07:48] Speaker 3: He was faster than a lot of the bigs he
[1:07:54] Speaker 3: was playing against.
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: Because a lot of them dudes were fucking land level.
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: A lot of them dudes were stiffs. So he had
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: to use his size and quickness. Like me playing against
[1:08:02] Speaker 2: a lot of fours and fives. I'm quicker than y'all,
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: so I'm going to face you up. I'm not certain guys,
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: I'm going to boom, boom if I need to to
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: get to this, but I'm quick in the house, I'm
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: going to face you up. And I see that in Wimby.
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: He's going to face a lot of guys up because
[1:08:14] Speaker 2: he has proper footwork.
[1:08:17] Speaker 3: Sean, you think Wimby would benefit from working out with
[1:08:20] Speaker 3: Hakeem Olajuwon?
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: Hmm.
[1:08:31] Speaker 3: Really? He's an alien. Um. I think the benefit of
[1:08:39] Speaker 3: mentorship is one thing more than showing him moves and
[1:08:44] Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. Just teaching him about what
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: to expect from the game, how to read defenses. Probably
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: help him a little bit on the defensive end. I
[1:08:55] Speaker 3: think that was dreams more of a forte than anything
[1:08:59] Speaker 3: was his defense.
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: And how he timed.
[1:09:03] Speaker 3: Blocks and running the floor and sealing and setting up
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: your fadeaway, certain things like that. I think the footwork
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: and all that, I think people go down there and
[1:09:13] Speaker 3: they expect to get what you're seeing from the person
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: that you want to learn from, but it all starts
[1:09:20] Speaker 3: with the foundation. Like it was saying before, when you
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: get down there, you got to have some type of
[1:09:24] Speaker 3: agility of knowing how to make these moves. Amar was
[1:09:29] Speaker 3: one of those guys who didn't have that footwork. And
[1:09:31] Speaker 3: when he got a little bit of it, you could
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: see it. He was like, oh shit, now he's getting
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: to his shit off the spin or he's doing a jab.
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: So I think Wimby, once he needs that, he goes
[1:09:40] Speaker 3: to it. I don't think he need it right now.
[1:09:42] Speaker 3: I think he's going to kill right now with what
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: he has. Then when he gets down and he starts
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: to see that he needs to put more into his game,
[1:09:50] Speaker 3: then you go do that. I hear you, but you
[1:09:55] Speaker 3: can't learn shit.
[1:09:57] Speaker 2: You ain't got to go outside your building if you
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: need mentorship and learn how to get it done and
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: be certain things.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: The motherfucker who got five.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: You got it right there.
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: Got five of them motherfuckers, and he was excellent on
[1:10:09] Speaker 3: the defensive end as well. So another question for you guys.
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: Wimby averaged 24-11 rebounds, four blocks this season. Damn.
[1:10:17] Speaker 1: Was shooting close to 19 field goal attempts, but close
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: to nine three-point attempts per game.
[1:10:21] Speaker 3: Talk about legendary big men.
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: Obviously, Kareem with the skyhook, probably one of the most
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: unstoppable moves in NBA history. Would Wimby benefit from learning
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: the skyhook, or does he even need it, considering how
[1:10:31] Speaker 1: much more he has in his game with the long-range shooting?
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: That's a tough move to learn and to perfect. Perfect.
[1:10:39] Speaker 3: Did he have the sky hook in college and high school?
[1:10:42] Speaker 1: I think he started working on it in college, not
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: as much, but once he got to the league.
[1:10:47] Speaker 3: I think more of a, I go to more of
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: a jump hook, a traditional jump hook. Yeah, I think
[1:10:50] Speaker 3: the jump hook is with that length. Because that wingspan, like.
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: Why? Because face up, turn, face, jab, shot.
[1:10:58] Speaker 3: All of it.
[1:10:59] Speaker 2: But if you need it, so this is the thing.
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: All that shit is great, but when you need a bucket, right?
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: Turn, face, jab, jumper. No, but that ain't... I'm 7'4.
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: That's a cop-out. That's a cop-out.
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: I'm a great shooter. So it's boom, block, and motherfucking
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: jump hook over.
[1:11:16] Speaker 3: That left shoulder. That's a foul. And that's a double
[1:11:20] Speaker 3: team because you know we're coming on the bounce. So
[1:11:22] Speaker 3: I catch, face, read the double team. Catch, face, read
[1:11:26] Speaker 3: the double. If you niggas don't come, hand down, man down.
[1:11:30] Speaker 3: Hand down, man down.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: More diverse offensive arsenal than Kareem.
[1:11:33] Speaker 3: 100%. But when you can shoot the ball. When you're limited, yeah,
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: you need that.
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: He's not limited, but I would think more of a
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: jump hook than a sky hook.
[1:11:42] Speaker 3: 100%. It's like you said, that sky hook, I mean,
[1:11:44] Speaker 3: we really haven't seen it since.
[1:11:46] Speaker 1: That's a hard shot to master.
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: Because I'm pretty sure they didn't try to teach it
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: to some guys, and it's, that motherfucker, you going up there,
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: just hitting the backboard every time. Back of the rim
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: every time.
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: Right? Right.
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: In the back of the rim and the backboard before,
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: you can really think you practicing that shit right and
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: it's just you, that's a hell of a thing to
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: try to, like the bank shot, right?
[1:12:09] Speaker 3: You gotta....
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:12:15] Speaker 3: Any other gentleman in the facility that.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: I think he'd be benefit from that shit more than anything.
[1:12:20] Speaker 3: See, I don't trust the oldies when they be talking
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: about what was good. So I'm trying to figure out
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: what was actually his shooting percentage on the skyhook itself.
[1:12:32] Speaker 1: On Kareem's?
[1:12:34] Speaker 3: You go back and watch old games. Yeah, that's cool.
[1:12:36] Speaker 3: I want to see what his percentage was on just
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: the skyhook itself.
[1:12:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think he'll benefit from facing up. Like
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: you said, facing up and shooting that bitch off the glass.
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: Like, that's.
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: That shot for him. All day long. That's money. Ain't
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: nobody doing nothing with that. As soon as he came,
[1:12:51] Speaker 3: like Z-Bo used to do. Z-Bo used to catch, face, jab.
[1:12:54] Speaker 3: You ain't doing nothing.
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: Shoot it.
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: Ain't nobody getting to it. So you push up on me.
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: I'm still thin. You got to either foul me or
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: let me go. And that's one dribble dunk from where
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: I'm at. So he has an arsenal of a one.
[1:13:06] Speaker 1: Two, three.
[1:13:07] Speaker 3: And the thing is, he's so light in his ass.
[1:13:10] Speaker 3: he gonna get pushed off his.
[1:13:11] Speaker 2: Spot a lot. He gonna get pushed off his spot
[1:13:15] Speaker 2: a lot. Him trying to post you up. Him just
[1:13:18] Speaker 2: trying to get position. If you wanna turn or draw anything,
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: he gonna get pushed off his spot. To your point,
[1:13:24] Speaker 2: he's always gonna face up.
[1:13:26] Speaker 3: Yep. Right? Because he's not going to be in block
[1:13:28] Speaker 3: position to even do that. He can be able to
[1:13:31] Speaker 3: get to it, take one dribble, open you up, then
[1:13:33] Speaker 3: go back to it. Yeah, that. He's going to have
[1:13:35] Speaker 3: to do that. Like, Doom face you up. Like, he's
[1:13:37] Speaker 3: going to go by you to get you to retreat
[1:13:39] Speaker 3: a little bit. That's like five dribbles. Yeah, then it's...
[1:13:41] Speaker 3: But it's... Right, that's all I'm saying. But it's... Like
[1:13:44] Speaker 3: we talked about... You got to play that game. And
[1:13:45] Speaker 3: he can do crab dribbles. You get a couple crab dribbles. Yeah,
[1:13:48] Speaker 3: when you light... Ain't no crab dribble for him. Not
[1:13:50] Speaker 3: for him at all. Seven, five, shit. Like, I mean.
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: Like.
[1:13:55] Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Joel Embiid probably do it the best,
[1:13:58] Speaker 3: but I don't even understand why people still post up.
[1:14:03] Speaker 3: In a sense of you trying to back somebody down
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: to the basket when if you're skilled enough, why won't
[1:14:08] Speaker 3: you post up?
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: I mean, face up. Because defensively, if you have your
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: back to me, I get to... Touch you. They not
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: playing defense like that no more, Gil.
[1:14:17] Speaker 3: Oh, just whatever?
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, they ain't doing that, Gil. But when I face you,
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: you can't, you're not allowed to.
[1:14:21] Speaker 3: Put your hands on me.
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: These motherfuckers playing post-defense like, with they fucking chest.
[1:14:26] Speaker 1: So you can literally, if you were good enough. Oh,
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: that's the bullshit.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Dog, they, listen, dog.
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: You can literally, ah, ah, ah. Joker is having a
[1:14:35] Speaker 3: field day on them shoulders. Man, he getting everything.
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: Why do you think there's always two feet in the paint?
[1:14:43] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: Them motherfuckers playing post-D with they chest and no resistance.
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: If you had this, somebody was actually playing defense like this.
[1:14:50] Speaker 3: It's still allowed. And they just not doing it. It's
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: still allowed.
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: I asked.
[1:14:55] Speaker 3: Nobody's getting away from me. I'm putting a stack up
[1:14:58] Speaker 3: like this. It's still allowed.
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: It is still allowed. Nobody should be moving if you
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: can do this.
[1:15:04] Speaker 3: Dude. Literally. Literally.
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: So then why aren't they doing it? Listen, we was
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: in STK.
[1:15:10] Speaker 2: I stood Walker Castle up in STK and showed them, listen,
[1:15:13] Speaker 2: you need to play, grab motherfucker's side.
[1:15:16] Speaker 3: And hold his ass on the other side.
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: I'm showing them this shit in the middle of STK.
[1:15:20] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. You could be better, man. Right?
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: More important than that steak, I would be like.
[1:15:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. In the middle of it. In the middle of it.
[1:15:28] Speaker 3: Put the steak down. I'm listening to Pat Bell the
[1:15:30] Speaker 3: other day. He talking about he used to grab people's side.
[1:15:32] Speaker 3: I used to do the same thing in the post, dog. Like,
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: I got my hand on your baby, whatever the size.
[1:15:39] Speaker 3: So this is free game, Biggs.
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: Whoever playing post, I'm finna give you some shit that,
[1:15:43] Speaker 2: please use it. Whoever playing post D, it ain't just Biggs.
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: Stop playing post D with your chest. You're at a disadvantage.
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: You are entitled to that space as the offensive player.
[1:15:55] Speaker 2: You don't have to give ground. You just can't fucking
[1:15:58] Speaker 2: lunge him off his spot. You don't have to move
[1:16:00] Speaker 2: if he's trying to back you down.
[1:16:03] Speaker 3: Hold your ground.
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: He try to fucking fall, it's a charge.
[1:16:08] Speaker 2: Like, use what you have. You got both of these motherfuckers.
[1:16:11] Speaker 2: You just can't have two hands in his back.
[1:16:13] Speaker 3: That's a foul.
[1:16:15] Speaker 2: This is a foul. Bent, whatever hand you want to use,
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: here and here is legal. You want to switch it,
[1:16:23] Speaker 2: it's legal. If he on the right box, Don't have
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: this on the baseline side.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: He going to fucking spin off of you.
[1:16:32] Speaker 3: You ain't got no. You ain't got no balance. You're
[1:16:34] Speaker 3: going to fall forward. Yep. And that's the reason for
[1:16:37] Speaker 3: doing it.
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: If you're guarding Alphine Sangoon, he's doing it every time.
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: He's trying to feel that way.
[1:16:42] Speaker 3: He's spinning. Yep. Bump you, bump you, spin. Bump you, spin.
[1:16:47] Speaker 3: He feel you before the dribble. He's going to spin.
[1:16:50] Speaker 3: You got this on the baseline side. He kicking y'all
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: ass doing it night in, night out. And you can
[1:16:57] Speaker 3: block him when he's turning, you can lock him with
[1:16:59] Speaker 3: your arm.
[1:17:00] Speaker 2: I'm holding you here, the baseline side. You go to move,
[1:17:04] Speaker 2: I feel you twitch. I can feel your movements. Stop playing,
[1:17:10] Speaker 2: you fucking... That's why your motherfucker getting hook dunked on.
[1:17:15] Speaker 3: Boom, you in the paint. That's why Nikola averaging fucking 30.
[1:17:19] Speaker 1: You're playing post-D with your chest.
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: No resistance. No resistance whatsoever.
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: Okay, when did you regret pulling the chair on dudes?
[1:17:26] Speaker 1: How did you time that out, and when did you
[1:17:28] Speaker 1: know when to do that?
[1:17:28] Speaker 3: Could people, as y'all think of me on this couch?
[1:17:32] Speaker 3: As a distinguished gentleman?
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: Just aggressive at all fucking times, and I'm just finna
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: be wrestling with you out this bitch, and I'm smarter
[1:17:39] Speaker 2: than you.
[1:17:41] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell the catcher of the show today, dude,
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: I might come out the first half, dog, and I'm
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: fighting the hell out of you. all your possessions, and
[1:17:51] Speaker 2: the first time you touch that bitch in the third quarter,
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: I'm moving. I'ma fight you, fight you, and people think
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: you pull a chair, you need to literally pull a chair,
[1:18:02] Speaker 2: people get fired, they pull their waist. No, just be
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: aggressive with him.
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: Pride kick in, ego kick in. I'm stronger than you,
[1:18:12] Speaker 3: you wanna prove you stronger than me, I'm gonna let you.
[1:18:16] Speaker 3: I'ma let you prove you stronger than me, yeah. But
[1:18:19] Speaker 3: I'm smarter than you, so cool. You can be stronger
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: than me all you want. But watch you fall and
[1:18:24] Speaker 3: laugh at you, right?
[1:18:27] Speaker 2: While you trying to catch and dribble that bitch while
[1:18:29] Speaker 2: you stumbling and pass the motherfucker.
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: Out, all that, yeah.
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'm gonna pull the chair guy, right? Cause
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: you gotta make guys think, man. When they got the ball,
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: you gotta make them think. I'm not just gonna let
[1:18:39] Speaker 2: you face me up.
[1:18:41] Speaker 3: Jab, jab, without me reaching at the ball, trying to
[1:18:44] Speaker 3: knock it out your hand, you back me down, I'm
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: reaching at the ball, I'm playing post-D here.
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: I'm reaching here. I'm reaching there. You face me up. No,
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: you're not finished.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: Listen, you're going to have to be excellent in your
[1:18:54] Speaker 2: craft with that ball around me. Just what it is, man.
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: My bad. No, no, no.
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: What you're saying is there shouldn't be anybody that should
[1:19:05] Speaker 4: spin baseline on you.
[1:19:07] Speaker 3: If you look at....
[1:19:09] Speaker 4: Ref positions, your right hand on that side, I can
[1:19:15] Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck I want to do. I can
[1:19:18] Speaker 4: fucking dig my hand in this motherfucker's hip, grip it,
[1:19:22] Speaker 4: because the ref is there, there at the half court,
[1:19:28] Speaker 4: and the ref that's on the baseline, he can see
[1:19:31] Speaker 4: my back. So if I'm gripping here, he's behind me.
[1:19:35] Speaker 4: So if you're on the baseline, I can really fuck
[1:19:38] Speaker 4: this motherfucker. I can just grab and hold right here
[1:19:41] Speaker 4: so he can't spin because the referee is not on
[1:19:45] Speaker 4: this side of me. He's on the opposite side, so
[1:19:48] Speaker 4: he's back behind. So I can really play without him
[1:19:52] Speaker 4: spinning on me.
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: And now I'm forcing you to go middle. Yeah, I'm
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: forcing you to go middle. Now I win.
[1:19:57] Speaker 3: Yep. Right block.
[1:19:59] Speaker 1: I'm playing left hand, right elbow.
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm forcing him to think that he can
[1:20:05] Speaker 3: use this elbow lock to go baseline. And I move
[1:20:07] Speaker 3: and I slide. And I know I got help. The baseline,
[1:20:10] Speaker 3: baseline side. So he has to hammer pass if he
[1:20:14] Speaker 3: goes baseline. But most of the time, I feel like
[1:20:16] Speaker 3: if I did opposite, he has more of an advantage
[1:20:19] Speaker 3: of going middle than anything. That's where you're... No, I
[1:20:23] Speaker 3: don't want to go middle. That's where your help is. No,
[1:20:26] Speaker 3: I don't want... Because then help comes and he kicks
[1:20:28] Speaker 3: it to the three-point shooter. He goes middle. So baseline...
[1:20:32] Speaker 3: is the best form of rotation because now I got
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: my crack down. If Kenyon's on my backside and he
[1:20:39] Speaker 3: got me on the right block, Kenyon is either going
[1:20:41] Speaker 3: to be left block help or he's going to be
[1:20:44] Speaker 3: left elbow help. Whichever he's at, I'm forcing baseline because
[1:20:48] Speaker 3: we got one form of defense, which is this little
[1:20:51] Speaker 3: layup on the right side of the rim. So he
[1:20:53] Speaker 3: has to pass to the corner. If he go middle,
[1:20:56] Speaker 3: He can kick to the wing, he can kick, it's open.
[1:20:59] Speaker 4: Anybody who played me like this on that right side,
[1:21:02] Speaker 4: I'm up and underin' on this arm right here. On
[1:21:04] Speaker 4: this one right here. See, my thing, I want you
[1:21:07] Speaker 4: to go middle. That's the only way you can go, right?
[1:21:10] Speaker 4: For me, you gotta go middle. I wanna strip you.
[1:21:13] Speaker 3: So you're holding me from goin' baseline, you're grippin'. So
[1:21:16] Speaker 3: you feel me there, right?
[1:21:18] Speaker 1: You feel me there, and.
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: I'm holding, so you get ready to make your move,
[1:21:21] Speaker 3: I let go, you get ready to go again, I
[1:21:22] Speaker 3: grab you again, right? So now I force you to go, motherfucker.
[1:21:26] Speaker 3: I'm stripping.
[1:21:27] Speaker 1: His only form of defense is to hit you with
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: the elbow.
[1:21:30] Speaker 3: When?
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: When he goes middle on the right block. No, he
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: has his open hand.
[1:21:33] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. No, he said he has a baseline.
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: No, he has a baseline.
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: So he's gripping baseline hip. And then he has this one.
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: It depends on who it is. But as soon as
[1:21:41] Speaker 3: you get ready to go, I release it.
[1:21:42] Speaker 1: I'm stripping, dog.
[1:21:43] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. If Nicola got you on the
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: right block, you got your offhand. If he's on the
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: right block, he's on the right block. My left hand's
[1:21:54] Speaker 3: on the baseline.
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: No, right block.
[1:21:59] Speaker 2: Which way are we facing? Is he going middle for
[1:22:02] Speaker 2: a left-hand jump hook?
[1:22:03] Speaker 3: No, right hand.
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: Right hand jump hook? I got my right hand on
[1:22:06] Speaker 1: the baseline.
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: On the baseline. So you're doing this? I'm playing with it.
[1:22:09] Speaker 3: It depends on what it is. I'm going to fight
[1:22:10] Speaker 3: him initially. My right hand is here. So that's what
[1:22:12] Speaker 3: I'm saying. So when he catch it, are you here?
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: On the catch?
[1:22:15] Speaker 1: It depends. No, on the catch?
[1:22:17] Speaker 3: No.
[1:22:18] Speaker 2: If he starts trying to back me down, maybe. That's
[1:22:20] Speaker 2: what I'm saying. If he tried to back you down.
[1:22:22] Speaker 2: I'm not playing you the same way with possession. So
[1:22:24] Speaker 2: with dispossession, I got here. When you got the ball.
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: And you're here.
[1:22:26] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is if he starts dribbling to
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: back you down.
[1:22:29] Speaker 3: I let go. So you opening up.
[1:22:30] Speaker 2: No, I'm not letting go. I'm not going here. Listen,
[1:22:34] Speaker 2: I'm touching you, dog. Listen, you start backing down.
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: I'm boom, boom.
[1:22:38] Speaker 1: I'm reaching for the ball.
[1:22:39] Speaker 3: So I'm here.
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: You ain't. I'm stealing the ball.
[1:22:42] Speaker 3: So you're not playing this defense, though. And once you
[1:22:47] Speaker 3: start dribbling. It's a live action. So you're saying before
[1:22:51] Speaker 3: the dribble, upon the catch, you're here. Yeah, absolutely. So
[1:22:55] Speaker 3: my only move is to either turn on you, dribble.
[1:23:00] Speaker 3: He wants me to go middle. So when I turn middle,
[1:23:04] Speaker 3: you hands off and you try to beat me. Are
[1:23:06] Speaker 3: you trying to strip?
[1:23:07] Speaker 1: I'm stripping.
[1:23:08] Speaker 3: Okay, so you're coming down with the left hand. I'm
[1:23:10] Speaker 3: stripping and contesting. So yeah, because you got your right hand.
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: I'm stripping and contesting.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: All in one possession.
[1:23:17] Speaker 3: Okay, so you coming down left. All of it. Left
[1:23:18] Speaker 3: hand still here, so you still in front.
[1:23:20] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:23:21] Speaker 2: So by this time, you didn't listen. You fucking mentally exhausted. Well,
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: now I want to see what you want to do.
[1:23:27] Speaker 2: I want to see what you're going to do first.
[1:23:29] Speaker 2: I would love to play.
[1:23:31] Speaker 3: You're going to literally, if you're forcing me to go middle,
[1:23:34] Speaker 3: I'm going to see what you're going to let me do. Yeah.
[1:23:35] Speaker 3: So if you let me do this and then you hit,
[1:23:38] Speaker 3: now I know you're a reacher. Oh, he likes to
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: reach now. Now I got to protect this bitch and
[1:23:42] Speaker 3: just go to my shit. So now if I just
[1:23:44] Speaker 3: turn and face... That's your best bet. That's the only
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: bet because now I know how you waiting for me
[1:23:49] Speaker 3: to put that. So you can.
[1:23:51] Speaker 2: So the advantage I had was a lot of bigs,
[1:23:57] Speaker 2: you're not going by me.
[1:23:58] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:23:59] Speaker 2: So that was my advantage, right? So I could play
[1:24:03] Speaker 2: you however. I had a foot speed advantage. A lot
[1:24:06] Speaker 2: of people I had a foot speed advantage against that
[1:24:08] Speaker 2: I played against, especially bigs. I could do what I
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: wanted to and I could still catch a move.
[1:24:13] Speaker 6: Right?
[1:24:14] Speaker 1: Some guys.
[1:24:14] Speaker 3: And get to the top. Right?
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: So now you got all these things to worry about.
[1:24:18] Speaker 2: Just say like when I played KG. Everybody excellent, right?
[1:24:22] Speaker 3: Boom, boom, boom. He want to go here.
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: Right hand. He want to go right shoulder.
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: Boom, boom.
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: He want to go there. He know with me. He
[1:24:30] Speaker 2: already shoot it high. He got to start his turn
[1:24:34] Speaker 2: over here. Because if you wait.
[1:24:38] Speaker 3: You turn with that ball to get to your shot
[1:24:40] Speaker 3: right here, I'm getting it.
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: I'm going to get your arm in your hand.
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: I'm going to get some part of what you're trying
[1:24:48] Speaker 2: to do in your shot. So with him, he got
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: all ready to be in his shit because he already
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: shoot it high.
[1:24:53] Speaker 3: He ain't got no up and under from that.
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: He don't. He's going to go to it. He's always going.
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: He's going to fake it and come back and left
[1:24:59] Speaker 1: shoulder jump hook.
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: Once he know I'm there, once he see me, because
[1:25:04] Speaker 2: as soon as you go, my hand is already there.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: Boom, boom, he going, and he coming back here, right?
[1:25:11] Speaker 1: I can time it.
[1:25:12] Speaker 2: He taller than me, but I can time that because
[1:25:14] Speaker 2: I know I've made you go this way now.
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:25:17] Speaker 3: And now it's anticipating him to read at that point
[1:25:20] Speaker 3: for his woo-woo. You know what I'm saying? With Z-Bo, right? Z-Bo, yeah.
[1:25:24] Speaker 2: So with Z-Bo, this is, Z-Bo gave a lot of
[1:25:29] Speaker 2: people fits in his league. They let him do what he,
[1:25:33] Speaker 2: I gave Z-Bo one way to go. You got to
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: go right, dog. With me, you got to go right. Him,
[1:25:42] Speaker 2: you're too good.
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: I'm not going to.
[1:25:43] Speaker 3: You have to go this way. And he's going to
[1:25:45] Speaker 3: get to that level. And he's going to try. By
[1:25:47] Speaker 3: any means necessary. So now what you're going to have
[1:25:50] Speaker 3: to do with me, right? I'm making him face me
[1:25:53] Speaker 3: up to shoot. That's what changed his whole game, too.
[1:25:56] Speaker 1: I'm making him do that.
[1:25:57] Speaker 2: If he makes that on me, I'm contesting it because you.
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: Excellent on that block, Hall of Fame career, all that,
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: but he wasn't stronger than me, more athletic than me,
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: and he wasn't going to bully me. Now you got
[1:26:12] Speaker 2: to do something that I want you to do. You
[1:26:14] Speaker 2: might make that motherfucker. You might get to your every
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: now and again because you're really good, but more than likely,
[1:26:20] Speaker 2: I'm making you put that ball in your right hand
[1:26:22] Speaker 2: if I'm guarding him. Al Jefferson told me, listen, Man,
[1:26:26] Speaker 2: I'd be busting these dudes ass in this league, dog.
[1:26:29] Speaker 2: I never got the best of you. And I said,
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: you never will.
[1:26:31] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:26:32] Speaker 3: Because you go all right. You cannot go left.
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: You cannot go left. Before the game, we're doing the scouting.
[1:26:39] Speaker 2: I'm like, man, Al ain't got no fucking left blinker
[1:26:40] Speaker 2: in his car.
[1:26:41] Speaker 3: At all. He don't even look left. He don't even
[1:26:44] Speaker 3: look left. Both of his eyes work right.
[1:26:47] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? But he ain't.
[1:26:49] Speaker 3: He ain't. We used to say all right now. And
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: I ain't never went for this shit. Right.
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: I ain't never went for it.
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't never went for it. Hey, deadly. Deadly.
[1:26:59] Speaker 3: I'm watching him on film leading up to the game.
[1:27:02] Speaker 3: He bugged everybody for it. Everybody.
[1:27:04] Speaker 2: And I'm never going for it. Lamarcus Argers told me
[1:27:06] Speaker 2: the same shit. Listen, man, I'm giving these dudes no L.A.
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: I'm not going for it. You are really good.
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:27:12] Speaker 2: I'm studying you, dude. I'm studying your tendencies, your move,
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: what you want to go right, short out. You're going
[1:27:17] Speaker 2: to have to choose this level.
[1:27:18] Speaker 3: I know you can make it. But this left shoulder
[1:27:21] Speaker 3: jump hook, you're going to have to perfect this bitch
[1:27:22] Speaker 3: against me, dog, because I know your money is going here. Yep.
[1:27:26] Speaker 3: All day. All day. So this is the things that
[1:27:29] Speaker 3: when I talk this defense shit and I talk things
[1:27:31] Speaker 3: people off guard had to do and study and all that,
[1:27:34] Speaker 3: I really did this, man.
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: Like, had to study.
[1:27:38] Speaker 3: Then not only that, in one game, I got to
[1:27:40] Speaker 3: go guard Antoine Jameson and I got to go fucking
[1:27:41] Speaker 3: chase this motherfucker around on the perimeter, right? Switch. Got
[1:27:45] Speaker 3: a switch at the pick and roll. I'm calling a switch.
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: I got him. I got him.
[1:27:50] Speaker 3: I got it. It's me. Now I got what he
[1:27:52] Speaker 3: want to do, right? He want to run at me,
[1:27:55] Speaker 3: he going to make me back up, and he want
[1:27:56] Speaker 3: to shoot at me, right? He going to want to
[1:27:57] Speaker 3: shoot it. Stay close to him. I'm going to stay
[1:27:59] Speaker 3: far from him. Stay close to him. I'm going to
[1:28:01] Speaker 3: crowd the shit out of him, right? Send him to Gamby. Hey, Marcus.
[1:28:04] Speaker 3: Here he comes. We got him. First, he got to
[1:28:07] Speaker 3: get it over with me. We got him.
[1:28:09] Speaker 2: Because if I'm going to contest it, too, and the
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: MC back there, then Nene taking charges, Eddie taking charges.
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: So it's like, hey.
[1:28:15] Speaker 3: All you got to do is stay down. Stay down
[1:28:17] Speaker 3: on the pump fake. He can try to get you
[1:28:19] Speaker 3: in there. You're going to get the foul. He's going
[1:28:21] Speaker 3: to try to bait you. Just stay. Don't foul it.
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: There's also, but no, this is, but, yeah. It's how
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: it go. Game is the game. Let's keep this thing moving.
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[1:31:02] Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit more NCAA tournament. Come
[1:31:05] Speaker 1: and gone for this year, but one of the final
[1:31:06] Speaker 1: four teams used experience to get them there. Here's a
[1:31:09] Speaker 1: crazy stat from Whistle Sports. So Auburn's basketball lineup is
[1:31:16] Speaker 1: older than five NBA teams, Wizards, Jazz, Raptors, Blazers, and Hawks.
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: In fact, at an average age of 23.2 years old,
[1:31:25] Speaker 1: Auburn starting five is only one year younger than the
[1:31:28] Speaker 1: average age of the Thunder starting five, which is 24.4
[1:31:31] Speaker 1: years old, number.
[1:31:33] Speaker 3: One team in the NBA.
[1:31:34] Speaker 1: So Auburn started five players ranging from age 22 to 25.
[1:31:38] Speaker 1: The success of the Tigers this season and during the
[1:31:41] Speaker 1: NCAA tournament has not translated to draft projections, though, as
[1:31:45] Speaker 1: only one starter is projected as a late first-round pick
[1:31:48] Speaker 1: in senior big man Jani Broome. He was SEC Player
[1:31:51] Speaker 1: of the Year. And yesterday, Charles Barkley, who's also an
[1:31:53] Speaker 1: Auburn alum, called Broome the greatest player in the school's history.
[1:31:58] Speaker 1: The only other potential late first-rounder is six-man, 19-year-old freshman guard,
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: Tahai Pettiford, who declared for the draft but did not
[1:32:05] Speaker 1: sign with an agent to maintain his college eligibility. Shaw,
[1:32:08] Speaker 1: we saw you covering the tournament the entire time with
[1:32:12] Speaker 1: the legend Jim Hill, CBS Sports LA, Morongo. Y'all were at, what,
[1:32:17] Speaker 1: Cosm last night? Y'all was all over the place doing
[1:32:20] Speaker 1: your thing How come Auburn's final four run isn't leading
[1:32:23] Speaker 1: to higher draft projections amongst their starting five crew? I
[1:32:26] Speaker 1: don't know, man.
[1:32:27] Speaker 3: I'm not here to talk about the runner-ups or the
[1:32:31] Speaker 3: second-place team or Chuck's favorite team. The team I wanted
[1:32:37] Speaker 3: to win won.
[1:32:38] Speaker 1: That's all. I don't know.
[1:32:40] Speaker 3: Who? Go back to school, man. They can't.
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: I mean, they've lost at daytime.
[1:32:46] Speaker 3: Van Wilder. Fuck.
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: It's that new age NBA shit, man. Yeah, it is.
[1:32:53] Speaker 3: Draft them young and dudes.
[1:32:56] Speaker 2: Don't know how to play basketball. I'm a firm believer
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: in you guys. It's just me.
[1:33:02] Speaker 3: I'm biased.
[1:33:06] Speaker 2: At least two, three. You learn how to play basketball, man.
[1:33:09] Speaker 2: You learn to work on your deficiencies. Some are a
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: Exceptions to these rules and yeah, you got certain guys,
[1:33:23] Speaker 2: but the masses and teams would teams would benefit from
[1:33:34] Speaker 2: not having six 19 year old 20 year olds on
[1:33:38] Speaker 2: your roster at once.
[1:33:42] Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
[1:33:43] Speaker 3: And they all know each other. They all refuse to
[1:33:46] Speaker 3: be students of the game. Like a guy like Walter Clayton,
[1:33:51] Speaker 3: he knows what it feels like to be double teamed
[1:33:54] Speaker 3: in a high-pressure moment where the whole team's whole focus
[1:33:58] Speaker 3: is to take the ball out your hands. So he's
[1:34:01] Speaker 3: going to be prepared regardless. Regardless when he gets to
[1:34:05] Speaker 3: the league, he's going to be prepared.
[1:34:08] Speaker 1: Gil, see you on the couch right now doing your J.R.
[1:34:10] Speaker 1: Smith as promised. What happened? The hookah, the Kelsey Plum cigars. champagne,
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: fruit baskets sent to the Nuggets facility. Amen.
[1:34:23] Speaker 3: For standing Josh Cronky.
[1:34:24] Speaker 1: Get low-key tatted up.
[1:34:26] Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm lost.
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Talking about how Auburn's crew, 23.2-year-old,
[1:34:33] Speaker 1: average age of their starting five. Oh, the G League team.
[1:34:37] Speaker 1: It's not translating to higher draft projections considering their tournament run.
[1:34:41] Speaker 1: Shot said he didn't care about losers. He wanted to
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: talk about it. You know, they got paid more than
[1:34:44] Speaker 1: the G League team, though.
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: Their salary cap was $ 8 million. They paid $ 8 million
[1:34:54] Speaker 3: for that team. Harbor, and not to win it. $ 500, 000
[1:34:58] Speaker 3: for a dude who ain't played many minutes after the
[1:35:02] Speaker 3: fourth game. If they paying that kind of money for
[1:35:06] Speaker 3: old heads, hey, man, stay in school, dog.
[1:35:09] Speaker 1: They are. Stay in school, man.
[1:35:12] Speaker 4: 24, 25, that's an easy lick right now because them
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: coaches ain't– Most of them coaches ain't looking for youngins
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: right now, right?
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: Unless you a five, five star. Other than that, they'd
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: rather pay.
[1:35:23] Speaker 3: A 25, 26 year old, you know, a million dollars
[1:35:26] Speaker 3: because he's steady.
[1:35:27] Speaker 1: So if you old, you got eligibility, take your ass
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: back to college.
[1:35:30] Speaker 2: Because my job as a college coach is predicated on
[1:35:33] Speaker 2: wins and losses, right? I can't depend on a bunch
[1:35:37] Speaker 2: of freshmen year in and year out. I'm going to
[1:35:40] Speaker 2: lose my job if I have to depend on freshmen
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: year in and year out. If I don't, if I'm
[1:35:45] Speaker 2: not at Kentucky, Or Duke. I'm going to lose my job.
[1:35:51] Speaker 2: So I need guys who I can depend on, who
[1:35:55] Speaker 2: are going to do exactly what I ask of them.
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: That's just what, yeah, upperclassmen, man. It ain't a new formula.
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: It's been the formula for college basketball. Certain schools and
[1:36:12] Speaker 2: certain players are exceptions to these things, but for the
[1:36:15] Speaker 2: most part, Guys, they coaches playing upperclassmen, man. You got
[1:36:20] Speaker 2: to really stand out as a freshman to play. People
[1:36:22] Speaker 2: wonder why Mick Cronin not playing freshman at UCLA. Wins
[1:36:27] Speaker 2: and losses. Wins and losses matter. If I'm playing a
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: bunch of freshmen every year, I'm going to have 19
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: wins and 17 losses.
[1:36:39] Speaker 3: God damn it.
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: I need that motherfucker to be 27 and 5. For
[1:36:44] Speaker 2: what we do in the tournament, we make the tournament,
[1:36:46] Speaker 2: lose in the first round, I keep my job. Make
[1:36:49] Speaker 2: the tournament, lose in the second round, I keep my job.
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: It's the not making the tournament is the issue with colleges.
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: You got to have guys you can depend on. Rick
[1:37:01] Speaker 2: Pitino didn't come back to coach a bunch of fucking freshmen.
[1:37:06] Speaker 2: Lose ain't coaching.
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: Trust me.
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: Kevin Sampson wouldn't be still coaching Houston if he had
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: to coach a bunch of freshmen.
[1:37:16] Speaker 1: And we saw Duke take that young throw. You can
[1:37:17] Speaker 1: sprinkle him in there. You can sprinkle him in there.
[1:37:19] Speaker 3: Amen.
[1:37:19] Speaker 1: And saw Duke take that young throw. Yeah, crude in
[1:37:21] Speaker 1: the final four. I'm like Nick Young, man.
[1:37:23] Speaker 3: This conversation ain't about Luka, man.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: So, look. Holler at me when we start talking about Luka.
[1:37:31] Speaker 3: I'm out.
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: Gil dragging his mic. His mic is... He drunk. Gil inebriated.
[1:37:43] Speaker 1: Has taken a seat on his plush.
[1:37:45] Speaker 3: Just tell me when the Luka, when the Laker-Luka start talking, okay?
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: No Laker-Luka on the agenda for the show today. They
[1:37:55] Speaker 1: do play tonight. So he's asleep.
[1:37:56] Speaker 3: You make time for Luka. He's asleep.
[1:37:59] Speaker 1: Our next topic, Luka Doncic.
[1:38:01] Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding.
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: When we talked about that Auburn crew, Broome, only player
[1:38:06] Speaker 1: amongst that that's projected to be a high draft projection
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: besides the sixth man. But then you talk about Walter
[1:38:10] Speaker 1: Clayton Jr., what he did in the tournament this year.
[1:38:12] Speaker 1: Impressive run, named most outstanding player. unhelping lead Florida to
[1:38:16] Speaker 1: the natty. First player since Larry Bird in 1979 to
[1:38:19] Speaker 1: drop 30 or more in consecutive Elite Eight and Final
[1:38:21] Speaker 1: Four games. Cooled off in the natty game a little bit.
[1:38:24] Speaker 1: He was scoreless the first 25 minutes. Delivered in the
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: second half, 11 points, five rebounds, seven assists.
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: Clayton Jr.
[1:38:31] Speaker 1: Currently projected as a late first-round pick. He was second
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: round only a few weeks ago, but it's kind of jumped.
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: But do you think he played his way into a
[1:38:38] Speaker 1: better draft position? Absolutely.
[1:38:41] Speaker 3: What he was able to do yesterday, watching in real time, was–
[1:38:46] Speaker 3: Like as a scorer, you start to get denied the
[1:38:48] Speaker 3: ball and certain things like that. You take yourself out
[1:38:52] Speaker 3: of the equation and you become a decoy because you
[1:38:54] Speaker 3: got to figure out what the scheme is. And I
[1:38:56] Speaker 3: think the first half, he was trying to figure out
[1:38:59] Speaker 3: how to be effective inside whatever scheme they were using.
[1:39:02] Speaker 3: And so second half, he came out. I think the
[1:39:04] Speaker 3: coach adjustment was you're going to have to be the facilitator.
[1:39:06] Speaker 3: It's going to open you up. So he started making
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: a couple passes, couple assists, and opened up his game
[1:39:12] Speaker 3: so he can get some big buckets. I think with him,
[1:39:14] Speaker 3: he made a great defensive play down the stretch that
[1:39:17] Speaker 3: really sealed the deal because if dude was really paying attention,
[1:39:22] Speaker 3: it's a pump fake, one dribble pull-up. But he was late.
[1:39:27] Speaker 3: Walter Clayton was late on the closeout, so he was
[1:39:29] Speaker 3: able to actually get there to get a clean defensive stop.
[1:39:33] Speaker 3: So I liked everything he brought to the table, but
[1:39:36] Speaker 3: it was the other guys for me. It was Will
[1:39:38] Speaker 3: Richard and Elijah Martin. Those two guys stepped up for sure.
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: Came through. And obviously, I'm sure Houston's game plan. You know,
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: Houston's a strong defensive team. We're going to try and
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: shut the water off. Did an effective job of that.
[1:39:50] Speaker 1: It was a low-scoring game, though, in the first half. Well,
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: you got to have a counter.
[1:39:53] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: And I think Calvin Sampson, you know, is the... Same score.
[1:39:57] Speaker 3: He's the Doc Rivers of college. Calvin Sampson is definitely
[1:40:03] Speaker 3: the Doc Rivers of college. He don't know how to
[1:40:05] Speaker 3: make adjustments. And... You got to have one or two
[1:40:09] Speaker 3: dynamic players that can make plays down the stretch.
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:40:13] Speaker 3: I think Friar is good enough to try, but outside
[1:40:17] Speaker 3: of him, they didn't really have a guy.
[1:40:19] Speaker 1: What did you think about the last play? Pump fake,
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: one dribble, man.
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: No, I'm saying just the whole fucking play. It was
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: a good play. It was? Yeah, because it was a
[1:40:31] Speaker 3: clean shot. Even for the shot, he caught it, and
[1:40:34] Speaker 3: it was a bunch of time. Yeah, way too long.
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He did the same thing earlier
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: in the game, though, had a three, and the dude
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: closed out on him. Yeah.
[1:40:41] Speaker 3: Did the same. Weird. But that play, it looked like
[1:40:45] Speaker 3: it worked. It would have blocked that shit. But he
[1:40:47] Speaker 3: was so late on the closeout. It was like, dude
[1:40:49] Speaker 3: didn't even, he didn't look behind him or nothing. I
[1:40:51] Speaker 3: hated the play from the beginning. I didn't know what
[1:40:54] Speaker 3: they was going to go to. I hated the player.
[1:40:55] Speaker 3: I'm thinking, man, who's my best player?
[1:40:57] Speaker 1: And give it to him.
[1:40:58] Speaker 2: Give him the ball to get the fuck out the way.
[1:41:00] Speaker 2: We finna go down here. We gonna shoot it early
[1:41:02] Speaker 2: just in case he miss it. We give ourselves another chance.
[1:41:05] Speaker 2: I fucking hated that shit from the beginning. Like, why
[1:41:08] Speaker 2: y'all doing all that action on the weak side? Like,
[1:41:11] Speaker 2: you're not giving yourself the chance to do anything else.
[1:41:13] Speaker 3: Right. That part. That part.
[1:41:15] Speaker 1: Second chance.
[1:41:16] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And for him not to get a shot at it. Right?
[1:41:22] Speaker 2: You can do the same thing, right? And now you
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: got a foul, right? So, the same play can happen
[1:41:26] Speaker 2: if you go earlier.
[1:41:27] Speaker 3: Yes. You can do the same thing. Now you got
[1:41:29] Speaker 3: a chance to foul and get the ball back. Ain't
[1:41:32] Speaker 3: got a chance to get him. Yeah. Right.
[1:41:33] Speaker 1: You got to steal.
[1:41:35] Speaker 3: Anything can happen, man, in that moment. I mean, because
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: you got to foul. Did he, did the coach fuck up?
[1:41:40] Speaker 3: Did he nut up? Yeah, I think it was the
[1:41:42] Speaker 3: wrong play. I just, it was the wrong play, I think.
[1:41:45] Speaker 3: You go to the rim?
[1:41:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[1:41:47] Speaker 3: Right away. Right away. You go to the rim. Yes, man.
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: I thought about Gil in this moment. It was downhill
[1:41:54] Speaker 2: and go, man. Get a foul, get something. You're going
[1:41:56] Speaker 2: to get the shot at the rim or something's going
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: to happen quickly.
[1:41:58] Speaker 3: Make sure we get a shot.
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: We got to go fast.
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: We cannot not get a shot.
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: No, that's the worst case scenario.
[1:42:04] Speaker 3: We cannot not get a shot.
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: I'm just shaking my head watching this shit. I'm like,
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: are you fucking... At the end of the game? My
[1:42:10] Speaker 2: whole thought, I'm like, are you fucking shitting me?
[1:42:12] Speaker 1: You don't get a shot up? You don't get a
[1:42:15] Speaker 1: shot up?
[1:42:18] Speaker 2: You see it all the time in the NBA with
[1:42:19] Speaker 2: certain situations, but You see it regular season, but when
[1:42:23] Speaker 2: the game is on the line and you got elder
[1:42:25] Speaker 2: statesmen in college and you don't get a shot up.
[1:42:28] Speaker 2: I just got done talking all that shit yesterday in
[1:42:30] Speaker 2: here about upperclassmen. They dependable and this and saying the
[1:42:35] Speaker 2: same shit again.
[1:42:36] Speaker 1: And they come out this month and don't even get
[1:42:38] Speaker 1: a shot up. Kelvin Sims said the same thing. I
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: see his reaction live in the game, post-game comments. To
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: walk out of that play not even... Throw something at
[1:42:46] Speaker 1: the basket.
[1:42:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, run somebody over, chalk. Yo, you got to do
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: something other than turn that bitch over with.
[1:42:53] Speaker 3: No time to go. But look, like he said, Calvin
[1:42:55] Speaker 3: put him in a position for a catch and shoot.
[1:42:57] Speaker 3: That wasn't a catch and drive. That wasn't the motive.
[1:43:00] Speaker 3: The motive was we're going to get the point guard.
[1:43:01] Speaker 3: We're going to come up. Y'all going to set a
[1:43:03] Speaker 3: double for him to come into the elevator shoot. And
[1:43:06] Speaker 3: you're going to be... So now what are we going
[1:43:09] Speaker 3: to do if they switch out? They switch out on that.
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: And now what, Calvin? Yeah. We got two seconds on the,
[1:43:16] Speaker 3: what now? We're still down one. Overcoaching, man, at times.
[1:43:20] Speaker 3: Too smart.
[1:43:22] Speaker 2: You're too smart at times. He's Doc Rivers, man. You're
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: too smart at times, dog. Get a ball to your
[1:43:27] Speaker 2: best player and get the fuck out the way. It's
[1:43:28] Speaker 2: that simple at times.
[1:43:29] Speaker 3: Yep. Right?
[1:43:31] Speaker 2: It is real simple. Should have never cut me. We
[1:43:34] Speaker 2: needed a bucket in Denver. Hey, man, get a ball
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: to 15 and get the fuck out the way.
[1:43:41] Speaker 3: Ooh. Try you and Kelvin Sampson to have some. No, no, no.
[1:43:45] Speaker 3: He disrespected you along your journey? No, no, no. You
[1:43:48] Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
[1:43:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. 19 and under, she cut me from the 19
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: and under.
[1:43:52] Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
[1:43:53] Speaker 1: See? There it is.
[1:43:55] Speaker 3: But now. Questionable decision maker. But now you don't know
[1:43:58] Speaker 3: another nigga like me. Nobody say that. Nobody say it
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: like that. You know what I'm saying?
[1:44:06] Speaker 1: Before we move on, can we get Gil to IV, please?
[1:44:11] Speaker 3: Gilbert Arenas. Still in the arena.
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: Hey, that's what happened for when you drink warm champagne
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: and smoke cigar and hookah and you don't do neither regularly. Hittin'
[1:44:23] Speaker 2: cigar and the tea hookah. When you don't do either
[1:44:26] Speaker 2: regularly and I told you that cigar was going, hey,
[1:44:30] Speaker 2: on top of that hookah, hey, that warm ass champagne.
[1:44:34] Speaker 3: Hey, he's acting. That's a cocktail for sweet. He ain't
[1:44:36] Speaker 3: never acted like this. Every since he got married, he's
[1:44:39] Speaker 3: been acting weird. Brand new. He's trying to get drunk
[1:44:42] Speaker 3: a lot more. Probably getting high on the road.
[1:44:47] Speaker 1: Probably in the bathroom getting high. Getting high.
[1:44:49] Speaker 3: Before he go, hey, man, I'll be in in a second.
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: You smoke crack, don't you?
[1:44:53] Speaker 3: You smoke crack, don't you? Boy. You want to jump?
[1:44:57] Speaker 3: I know you want to jump. Go ahead.
[1:44:59] Speaker 1: Do it expeditiously.
[1:45:01] Speaker 3: Gil, you want to talk, Luca? Gil is not.
[1:45:06] Speaker 1: You're not responding.
[1:45:07] Speaker 3: We're going to talk about a player. We're going to
[1:45:10] Speaker 3: talk about a player in the same conference as Luka.
[1:45:13] Speaker 1: We're getting closer. We're getting warmer. And then we're going
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: to move to the same city. I thought this was
[1:45:21] Speaker 1: a celebration about Luka, man.
[1:45:22] Speaker 3: He's talking about his own ass in college. He's talking
[1:45:24] Speaker 3: about his head. He's talking about his head. He's talking
[1:45:28] Speaker 3: about his head. He's talking about his head. He's talking
[1:45:32] Speaker 3: about his head.
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: He is of a similar age, 26 years old. We're
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: going to talk about a team the Lakers will have
[1:45:47] Speaker 1: no problem disposing of in the playoffs. So there is
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: a correlation there.
[1:45:54] Speaker 3: Hey, man, don't smoke the hookah and the cigar. Kelsey
[1:45:58] Speaker 3: Plum Cigar.
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: And the champagne. And I think somebody threw some shots
[1:46:01] Speaker 1: up in there. Kelsey Plum says she will come to
[1:46:04] Speaker 1: the arena once Brandon stops ducking her pay, pulls up
[1:46:06] Speaker 1: to open run. So, we'll talk a little.
[1:46:10] Speaker 3: It's that J.R. Henney.
[1:46:12] Speaker 1: Is there a Henney in it for J.R. Smith? Please
[1:46:13] Speaker 1: do not give. Give me the Henney.
[1:46:15] Speaker 3: Do not give.
[1:46:16] Speaker 1: It's 125 Pacific.
[1:46:17] Speaker 2: So, me and Swiss had this conversation the other day, right? So,
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: when they said the thing about Adrian Broner taking the
[1:46:23] Speaker 2: money from the NBA players shoot dice.
[1:46:26] Speaker 1: They use J.R. pitch.
[1:46:27] Speaker 3: He was in a picture with J.R. was like, I
[1:46:30] Speaker 3: don't even shoot dice. I hit him like damn switch.
[1:46:34] Speaker 3: He said, I don't even shoot dice. Right. And he said,
[1:46:36] Speaker 3: he don't even drink Hennessy.
[1:46:38] Speaker 1: That's the thing.
[1:46:38] Speaker 3: They call him the Henny guy. He's a Henny guy
[1:46:40] Speaker 3: and don't even drink Hennessy. He like, so. Oh, no,
[1:46:43] Speaker 3: the Henny guy don't drink Henny.
[1:46:46] Speaker 1: He don't drink Henny. I learned that in my film,
[1:46:47] Speaker 1: Memes and Nightmares, currently streaming on Hulu. He want Henny.
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: He want some Henny.
[1:46:54] Speaker 3: It ain't 126 yet.
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: Give him some Hennessy. That's enough.
[1:46:57] Speaker 3: For the chat, for the chat, Laker Nation, we celebrating early. Mike, Michael. Calvin.
[1:47:07] Speaker 3: Shout out to Andrew. Andrew in the chat said, agent,
[1:47:10] Speaker 3: zero tolerance. Booyah. This is a shot for Laker Nation
[1:47:15] Speaker 3: winning the chip.
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: We did win a 2020 chip. 2025 on the way.
[1:47:20] Speaker 3: Two parades.
[1:47:21] Speaker 2: He took that like a champ. He liked that. He
[1:47:24] Speaker 2: ain't no face or nothing. They've been acting different. They
[1:47:29] Speaker 2: make our best friends. They Hennessy boys.
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: So let's talk. It's not a little good, but it's close.
[1:47:34] Speaker 3: It's close.
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: A player who's just beneath him in terms of talent.
[1:47:38] Speaker 3: LeBron.
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: Below that, but still talented. They had a similar game recently.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: Austin Reeves?
[1:47:48] Speaker 3: No. Rui. No, we're not.
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: We are going to go up north a little bit
[1:47:53] Speaker 1: to the Bay. So after Steph Curry had a rough
[1:47:55] Speaker 1: game against the Houston Rockets, Jeremiah Green and Baron Davis
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: went on their podcast, had an interesting conversation. about the
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: way Steph is officiated, then brought it back to a
[1:48:04] Speaker 1: larger point about selling calls. Let's take a listen.
[1:48:08] Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler mentioned Steph Curry. I've never seen an individual
[1:48:12] Speaker 7: get filed more than he gets filed. And one thing
[1:48:14] Speaker 7: I found interesting was most of it is off the ball.
[1:48:18] Speaker 5: They first step just as much off the ball, if
[1:48:20] Speaker 5: not more, than they do on him. He's always being
[1:48:23] Speaker 5: grabbed and held off the ball because you don't want
[1:48:26] Speaker 5: to get a step behind.
[1:48:27] Speaker 1: So everybody just grab and hold him.
[1:48:28] Speaker 5: You know, as soon as he take off, if you're
[1:48:31] Speaker 5: a half a step off his body, it creates a
[1:48:33] Speaker 5: domino effect because all he need is a half an
[1:48:36] Speaker 5: inch to get the shot off, and it's a great look.
[1:48:38] Speaker 7: Yeah, my goal for Steph in the playoffs, It's 10
[1:48:41] Speaker 7: free throws a game.
[1:48:42] Speaker 1: He should get 10 free throws a game.
[1:48:44] Speaker 3: He earned them, that's for sure.
[1:48:46] Speaker 7: When I watch the game, he get bumped, held, grabbed,
[1:48:49] Speaker 7: pushed off his mark more than any shooter that I've
[1:48:51] Speaker 7: ever seen.
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: He don't talk to the referees.
[1:48:54] Speaker 3: He gets penalized for that.
[1:48:55] Speaker 5: I also think he gets penalized because he's not a flopper.
[1:48:58] Speaker 3: And so it's almost as if, oh, he not getting fouled.
[1:49:02] Speaker 5: Or it don't matter because he ain't showing that he
[1:49:04] Speaker 5: getting fouled.
[1:49:05] Speaker 1: I think in this league, we reward flopping.
[1:49:08] Speaker 5: We put a flopping rule in that you never see
[1:49:11] Speaker 5: get caught, but we reward flopping and flailing, and Steph
[1:49:15] Speaker 5: does neither. It doesn't really hurt him because he still
[1:49:18] Speaker 5: do what he do, but it hurts him as far
[1:49:20] Speaker 5: as getting the call and getting to the free throw
[1:49:22] Speaker 5: line because he don't flop and he don't sell the call.
[1:49:26] Speaker 1: So to add some context to Draymond's point about flopping,
[1:49:28] Speaker 1: only six players have been fined for flopping this season.
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: The fines are $ 2, 000 a pop. So is flopping rewarded
[1:49:35] Speaker 1: in the NBA? That's this season that we're speaking of.
[1:49:39] Speaker 1: To only, how many? Six players.
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: Because they don't, it ain't a fucking thing, man. Way
[1:49:44] Speaker 2: more dudes should be fined for flopping. I watch a
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: lot of fucking basketball. It happens all the time, right?
[1:49:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, six a game, at least.
[1:49:51] Speaker 1: I have a question.
[1:49:51] Speaker 2: How many times have Luka and LeBron been fucking fined
[1:49:55] Speaker 2: for flopping?
[1:49:56] Speaker 3: Both. No, I'm just saying, because they do it a lot.
[1:49:59] Speaker 3: Ethical players.
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: No, they can be that as well, but they still flop. Man,
[1:50:03] Speaker 1: NBA ain't taking LeBron money.
[1:50:04] Speaker 3: They're not.
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: So, my thing is, it's a thing. Steph probably plays
[1:50:12] Speaker 2: through it, he probably doesn't complain about it. Cool and
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: all that, but. You do all that movement, you gonna
[1:50:21] Speaker 2: get held. You gonna get grabbed, like that's.
[1:50:25] Speaker 3: I was about to add, I'm just gonna say, I
[1:50:28] Speaker 3: got a question to ask you.
[1:50:29] Speaker 1: What's the defense for a nigga that can literally.
[1:50:31] Speaker 3: Run around the big man How do I?
[1:50:36] Speaker 1: Do I follow him?
[1:50:37] Speaker 3: I'm going to grab you, hold you, bump you, trip you. Big,
[1:50:39] Speaker 3: I need you to hit him. Oh, listen, he lucky
[1:50:41] Speaker 3: it ain't our days. He just running.
[1:50:43] Speaker 2: He lucky it ain't the old chucking day where we
[1:50:45] Speaker 2: can really chuck you.
[1:50:46] Speaker 3: Sam, man, how are you supposed to guard that? Can we?
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: Please stop eating popcorn off the floor. Can you please
[1:50:52] Speaker 1: give Gil some popcorn, please?
[1:50:53] Speaker 3: In a cup? So we don't have to eat it
[1:50:54] Speaker 3: off the floor like freedom. No, nobody sit there. That's
[1:50:58] Speaker 3: not sanitary, Gil. But, yeah, that's the only way you
[1:51:03] Speaker 3: can guard it.
[1:51:04] Speaker 1: He's great.
[1:51:05] Speaker 3: But look, how do we guard Reggie? How do we
[1:51:09] Speaker 3: guard Allen Houston? How do we guard Richard Hamilton? Hold.
[1:51:13] Speaker 3: We had to hold. We had to be physical. And
[1:51:16] Speaker 3: he had to figure out the way to get us
[1:51:18] Speaker 3: off him to get a clean look.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: He better start flopping.
[1:51:23] Speaker 3: Fall down. Scream.
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: That's what they used to do.
[1:51:26] Speaker 3: Now everybody's saying, oh, he's foul. You got to foul
[1:51:30] Speaker 3: Steph to stop him when y'all can set legal screens
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: to get him open. Yeah. You can set illegal screens
[1:51:37] Speaker 3: to get them open. We can't fail to stop them
[1:51:39] Speaker 3: from getting.
[1:51:41] Speaker 2: See, Draymond and BD, I hear you. He's benefiting from
[1:51:45] Speaker 2: this day and age trust, freedom of movement. The league
[1:51:50] Speaker 2: benefits Steph Curry.
[1:51:51] Speaker 3: Because there's no defense to stop him from just running around.
[1:51:54] Speaker 3: Before they put freedom of movement in. Mm-hmm. Good luck.
[1:51:59] Speaker 3: He thought twice about going down there. You would have
[1:52:02] Speaker 3: been absolutely coming off his pin down.
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: That's the grind.
[1:52:04] Speaker 3: I'm not going down there with him.
[1:52:06] Speaker 1: Try to come off this double.
[1:52:07] Speaker 3: No. I'm going the other way.
[1:52:09] Speaker 1: You're going to have to go out the other side.
[1:52:10] Speaker 3: Every time. I'm going this way. Yeah. Least resistant. Man.
[1:52:14] Speaker 3: Taking the path of least resistance. He's going to hit me. Coach,
[1:52:17] Speaker 3: I know he's going to hit me. As a matter
[1:52:18] Speaker 3: of fact, draw it up. Not Kenyon's side. Whoever guys
[1:52:21] Speaker 3: Kenyon's guarding, you're on this side because he's not going
[1:52:23] Speaker 3: to hit me.
[1:52:24] Speaker 2: Because more than likely, I'm going to try to switch
[1:52:26] Speaker 2: it out. And you run up, I'm definitely going to
[1:52:29] Speaker 2: bump you. So could he shoot more free throws?
[1:52:34] Speaker 3: Probably. But that's the only way you can guard him.
[1:52:40] Speaker 3: You have to grab, you.
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: Have to hold.
[1:52:41] Speaker 3: Make him a driver. You have to make him a driver.
[1:52:44] Speaker 3: Crowd his face, make him a driver.
[1:52:46] Speaker 1: I think before the ball, I guess I read something about.
[1:52:48] Speaker 1: Do your work early is what they say, right? I
[1:52:50] Speaker 1: read something about fouls.
[1:52:51] Speaker 4: They said if they actually called every foul that is
[1:52:54] Speaker 4: actually in an NBA game, they would never finish the game.
[1:52:57] Speaker 3: All the players would be fouled out. Yeah. So they
[1:52:59] Speaker 3: said they don't call at least 75% to 50-something percent
[1:53:02] Speaker 3: of the actual fouls just so there can be a game.
[1:53:05] Speaker 2: Because by rule, if you're going by the rule book,
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: technically what a foul is... you're never going to get
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: the ball up the floor, technically, against certain teams. Because
[1:53:19] Speaker 2: every touch, every push, every touch is a foul. When
[1:53:23] Speaker 2: a guy has an active dribble, I put my hands
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: on you when you're facing.
[1:53:28] Speaker 3: It's a foul.
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: Today in day and age, freedom of movement. I try
[1:53:33] Speaker 1: to move, you stop.
[1:53:34] Speaker 3: Foul.
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: I try to go post up, you bump.
[1:53:37] Speaker 3: Foul.
[1:53:37] Speaker 1: I got the ball in the post, you reach it.
[1:53:39] Speaker 3: Foul. Everything is a foul. It's the only.
[1:53:42] Speaker 1: Way to play the game.
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: So those that complain about it, deal with it. It's
[1:53:49] Speaker 3: just a part of it. They can't, like, give a point.
[1:53:52] Speaker 3: They can't call it all. And this is why foul
[1:53:55] Speaker 3: baiting is... shouldn't be frowned upon.
[1:54:02] Speaker 4: If you know that the refs are going to the
[1:54:04] Speaker 4: game not trying to call all the fouls, and they're
[1:54:08] Speaker 4: only trying to call at least 25%, if you're a
[1:54:11] Speaker 4: guy who's so aggressive... Right? You have to make it
[1:54:15] Speaker 4: seem like you're getting hit. Because you know normally the
[1:54:19] Speaker 4: ref is not going to call it because he don't
[1:54:20] Speaker 4: want to call it. So if Yacht is going to
[1:54:23] Speaker 4: have his fucking 40 free throws. Because every time he drives,
[1:54:25] Speaker 4: it's a foul. Jokic, every time he drives, it's a foul.
[1:54:30] Speaker 4: There's no one stopping him. He's getting hit every single time.
[1:54:33] Speaker 4: You can see the motherfucker.
[1:54:34] Speaker 1: He start off white, he finishes red, right?
[1:54:37] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, he really finishes red.
[1:54:41] Speaker 3: You got the scars over here.
[1:54:43] Speaker 4: So if we went by the rule and the technicality
[1:54:47] Speaker 4: of the game.
[1:54:51] Speaker 1: They were going to foul out everyone.
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: I watched Shaq. We fouled the motherfucker every time. He
[1:54:56] Speaker 4: only took 10 free throws. We fouled him 60 free
[1:54:58] Speaker 4: throws worth. But, you know, I was there with Dwight Howard.
[1:55:02] Speaker 4: I seen this motherfucker getting punched, pushed, knee in his
[1:55:06] Speaker 4: ass like you.
[1:55:08] Speaker 3: No, no pause.
[1:55:09] Speaker 1: You seen all that?
[1:55:10] Speaker 3: No pause on it? Yes.
[1:55:11] Speaker 1: Or full pause?
[1:55:13] Speaker 3: Either way. You said no.
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: Either way.
[1:55:15] Speaker 3: You said no pause? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Knee kick. Yeah.
[1:55:18] Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm drunk.
[1:55:20] Speaker 1: He's drunk. That's fine.
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: I was trying to say pause. I was trying to
[1:55:24] Speaker 3: say pause when I said no pause. No pause, man. Yeah,
[1:55:27] Speaker 3: it's gay. I was trying to say no pause, man.
[1:55:31] Speaker 3: No pause. Let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving.
[1:55:33] Speaker 3: No pause.
[1:55:33] Speaker 1: Knee in the ass. I meant it.
[1:55:34] Speaker 3: I meant it. Yeah, I meant that shit. No pause.
[1:55:39] Speaker 3: With a grunt. What the fuck?
[1:55:41] Speaker 1: No pause.
[1:55:42] Speaker 3: What the fuck?
[1:55:43] Speaker 4: But I watched him get fouled like crazy, and the
[1:55:45] Speaker 4: ref was like, I'm not calling all these fouls, man. So,
[1:55:48] Speaker 4: you know, so the guys who get hit a lot,
[1:55:50] Speaker 4: they're not. Like, so Steph, like, let's be honest. If
[1:55:53] Speaker 4: you're guarding him, you're fouling him off the ball. The
[1:55:57] Speaker 4: ref is not going to call it because if they did, man,
[1:55:59] Speaker 4: there would be no basketball game.
[1:56:01] Speaker 1: This is the softest era that we've had in basketball.
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: The softest era?
[1:56:06] Speaker 3: We played 21, right? You got to call your own fouls.
[1:56:11] Speaker 3: You know that one dude that's in the gym calling
[1:56:12] Speaker 3: every single fucking foul. We can't even fucking get up
[1:56:15] Speaker 3: and down the court because he want to call a ball. Right?
[1:56:18] Speaker 3: Everybody in the gym know, and we don't play like this,
[1:56:21] Speaker 3: whose man is this? Whose man? Who brought him? Who
[1:56:25] Speaker 3: invited him? Who brought him? He's fucking the game up.
[1:56:28] Speaker 3: Because we don't play like this. We trying to get
[1:56:30] Speaker 3: a run. It's called bump. We trying to bump. So
[1:56:33] Speaker 3: we all know when you call your foul because it's obvious.
[1:56:36] Speaker 3: Obvious foul. Got him up. Ah, you got a foul
[1:56:38] Speaker 3: on me. Boom.
[1:56:38] Speaker 1: Check up.
[1:56:39] Speaker 3: Ball up top. Everything else, man, we learn how to
[1:56:42] Speaker 3: not call fouls. We know it. We gotta play hard. Man,
[1:56:44] Speaker 3: that ain't a foul. You gotta foul me hard.
[1:56:47] Speaker 1: All right, I'm.
[1:56:47] Speaker 2: Gonna say Magic Johnson. Old Magic Johnson ass nigga. You
[1:56:50] Speaker 2: gotta make plan up at UCLA, motherfucker.
[1:56:53] Speaker 3: Magic, the only exception. The only motherfucker never lose a
[1:56:55] Speaker 3: game at UCLA. Ball. Hey. Ball. Always.
[1:56:59] Speaker 1: Listen.
[1:56:59] Speaker 3: Every drop, foul. It's where you're from, man.
[1:57:01] Speaker 1: I seen him get ripped clean. Some random dude just
[1:57:04] Speaker 1: ripped him clean.
[1:57:05] Speaker 3: Nah, ball. Nobody, right?
[1:57:06] Speaker 1: He ain't gonna let it.
[1:57:07] Speaker 3: He just got him. Everybody just like, ooh. When you
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: know you're getting fouled, you know you're getting fouled. We
[1:57:14] Speaker 3: know you can complain when it's obvious, when it's like,
[1:57:16] Speaker 3: God damn, ref, what's up? What are we doing? I
[1:57:19] Speaker 3: ain't asking for no fouls, but shit, give me the
[1:57:21] Speaker 3: ones that I need. I'm going to play through everything else.
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
[1:57:27] Speaker 4: If they're going into the game knowing that they're only
[1:57:29] Speaker 4: going to really call 25% of the fouls, you have
[1:57:32] Speaker 4: to make the fouls.
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: Seem like you're really getting hit.
[1:57:35] Speaker 3: But even the 25, it should be lower than that
[1:57:38] Speaker 3: because you're saying like, If we're not calling 75%, 80%
[1:57:41] Speaker 3: of the calls just because we'll slow the game down
[1:57:45] Speaker 3: and there's that many fouls, let's just call the obvious ones.
[1:57:49] Speaker 3: Let's just call the obvious travels, the obvious fouls, the
[1:57:53] Speaker 3: hard fouls. Everything else is play hard, bro. All that
[1:57:56] Speaker 3: bumping like we used to do with Ray Allen. We
[1:58:00] Speaker 3: didn't have to bump Ray Allen, man. He's running around.
[1:58:02] Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. So if I'm getting bumped,
[1:58:04] Speaker 3: that's why I'm going to oversell him.
[1:58:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to.
[1:58:07] Speaker 3: He needs to.
[1:58:07] Speaker 1: But I'm saying, so now you're talking about a Ray Allen.
[1:58:09] Speaker 3: The clay. a Steph, a Trae.
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: Young, Brunson, those small guys.
[1:58:14] Speaker 3: I got to perfect what Steph should be doing. But
[1:58:16] Speaker 3: if you oversell, hauling the fuck out. If you're overselling
[1:58:19] Speaker 3: and it don't work, it's a busted play. They're going
[1:58:23] Speaker 3: to start. No, no. Let's say. But now you're acting. No,
[1:58:26] Speaker 3: but I'm saying, let's say you guarded me a whole game.
[1:58:30] Speaker 4: And I done faked it 20 motherfucking times, and they
[1:58:34] Speaker 4: only called it three times. That's motherfucking three fouls on you.
[1:58:38] Speaker 4: That's important to the game. Because now you ain't guarding
[1:58:41] Speaker 4: me good.
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: It's how you got those three fouls.
[1:58:44] Speaker 3: It's almost like you and the ref were colluding on
[1:58:47] Speaker 3: something I have no knowledge of. It's like, oh, I
[1:58:52] Speaker 3: have to guard it like this, and you're knowing you're
[1:58:54] Speaker 3: going to call it. And he knowing you're going to
[1:58:57] Speaker 3: call it. I don't know what you're going to do
[1:59:00] Speaker 3: because I'm trying to guard it the best way I can.
[1:59:02] Speaker 3: You're manipulating what it looks like. It's not even a foul.
[1:59:06] Speaker 3: You're making it look like a foul.
[1:59:08] Speaker 1: That advantage goes.
[1:59:09] Speaker 3: To the offense. No, no, no.
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: But think about it.
[1:59:10] Speaker 3: Offensive advantage.
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: No, but technically 17%.
[1:59:12] Speaker 3: I mean, 17 possessions, they didn't call it.
[1:59:19] Speaker 4: But I don't have to worry about 17 possessions because
[1:59:21] Speaker 4: you only have six fouls.
[1:59:22] Speaker 3: But that's a lot of possessions. Yes, that's a lot
[1:59:24] Speaker 3: of possessions.
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: I fucked off.
[1:59:26] Speaker 3: Yes. But all I need is you to get two
[1:59:28] Speaker 3: fouls in the first quarter, and I ain't got to
[1:59:30] Speaker 3: see your ass until halftime. But I'm saying if those
[1:59:32] Speaker 3: 17 fuck-off possessions.
[1:59:35] Speaker 3: Could have been real possession that you actually got buckets
[1:59:38] Speaker 3: on based on not trying to fake to get the
[1:59:41] Speaker 3: foul and just going to get your shit. But it's
[1:59:43] Speaker 3: more important, but, okay, as an offensive player, right, let's
[1:59:46] Speaker 3: say I'm guarding.
[1:59:48] Speaker 1: You guys are guarding me, right?
[1:59:50] Speaker 4: If you guys are the best defenders on the team,
[1:59:52] Speaker 4: I don't want you in the last five minutes.
[1:59:54] Speaker 3: Of course.
[1:59:54] Speaker 4: Because that means you motherfuckers is dictating the results, right?
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: So.
[2:00:00] Speaker 4: The first three quarters, I'm trying to figure out how
[2:00:03] Speaker 4: to manipulate the referees.
[2:00:05] Speaker 3: On you two motherfuckers that's fouling. But you don't have
[2:00:07] Speaker 3: to manipulate. So you're guarding me.
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: You're over.
[2:00:08] Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing this. He comes off and
[2:00:09] Speaker 3: he hard shows. I'm going to pretend. I need to
[2:00:12] Speaker 3: get you guys in trouble. It's not manipulation, though, because
[2:00:15] Speaker 3: you're already good enough. For me, it's manipulating. You're already
[2:00:17] Speaker 3: good enough to get in front of Kenyon in the
[2:00:18] Speaker 3: pick and roll and to stop. He had to either
[2:00:23] Speaker 3: run you over. That's not a bait foul to me.
[2:00:26] Speaker 3: But I don't want regular offense at this point. I
[2:00:30] Speaker 3: want fouls on him. So your fouls are going to
[2:00:32] Speaker 3: come within the offense? No, no, no. Pick and roll.
[2:00:35] Speaker 3: What you going to do in the pick and roll
[2:00:36] Speaker 3: to get him in foul trouble? I'm going to come
[2:00:38] Speaker 3: off hard. He hopefully hard shows and I get hit.
[2:00:40] Speaker 4: All right, he switches. Then I'm going to try to
[2:00:43] Speaker 4: sit here. As soon as he do one of these,
[2:00:45] Speaker 4: I'm going to sit there and do this shit all
[2:00:46] Speaker 4: the time.
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? He's switching off on you
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: at the top of the key now. Pick and roll.
[2:00:50] Speaker 3: Is it one, four, flat? What is it?
[2:00:52] Speaker 1: He's just trying to get a foul. I'm trying to
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: get fouls.
[2:00:54] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? What kind of foul are
[2:00:56] Speaker 3: you going to get on him? Like Lou Will.
[2:00:57] Speaker 1: Don't worry about scoring.
[2:00:58] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I'm not actually worried about scoring.
[2:01:01] Speaker 4: Let's say we're on a fast break, and I have
[2:01:03] Speaker 4: a fast break, and he's trailing me. I'm purposely, like
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: if I know he got two fouls on the first,
[2:01:08] Speaker 4: I'm purposely going.
[2:01:08] Speaker 3: To slow down and get the hit. Of course. When
[2:01:10] Speaker 3: I can just go up and dunk it, I want
[2:01:12] Speaker 3: him to get a start. I don't want him in
[2:01:13] Speaker 3: the 4-4. What I'm asking you is you got him
[2:01:15] Speaker 3: at the top of the key, one-on-one. He got two fouls.
[2:01:18] Speaker 3: How are you going to get this foul on him?
[2:01:21] Speaker 3: I want him to close the distance. So right, so
[2:01:23] Speaker 3: I'ma just, I'ma just, you know what I'm saying? I'm
[2:01:25] Speaker 3: just idling first, so like I know he's gonna try
[2:01:28] Speaker 3: to give me distance, I don't wanna shoot a jump shot.
[2:01:30] Speaker 3: So I'm not, I don't wanna back him up. So
[2:01:32] Speaker 3: I'm not gonna load up to run it up.
[2:01:34] Speaker 1: But what does he know?
[2:01:35] Speaker 3: What does he know?
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: Not the foul.
[2:01:36] Speaker 3: Not the foul.
[2:01:37] Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try to get close, I'ma just go
[2:01:40] Speaker 4: in and then try to get as close as possible, right?
[2:01:43] Speaker 4: So when I start driving and he do one of these,
[2:01:45] Speaker 4: I can do one of those. So that's why I said,
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: I purposely fucked the score. I want the third foul,
[2:01:51] Speaker 4: just like Shaquille O'Neal. He's under the basket.
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: I have this layup. No, I'm jumping right into him.
[2:01:56] Speaker 4: Remember back then, if you was in that, in that,
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: the what's the name circle? and you didn't get out,
[2:02:03] Speaker 4: any contact was a foul.
[2:02:05] Speaker 3: So I went headhunting. If Shaq or anybody raised y'all
[2:02:08] Speaker 3: didn't get outside, fuck this lab right here. I'm jumping
[2:02:10] Speaker 3: this side. There's no protection for the defense. You have
[2:02:15] Speaker 3: all the advantage and all the protection. Me, you going
[2:02:19] Speaker 3: at me with the plan to bait a foul, I
[2:02:22] Speaker 3: have no insurance.
[2:02:23] Speaker 1: None.
[2:02:24] Speaker 3: None. I can't even say, hey, ref, I got my
[2:02:27] Speaker 3: hands straight up. No, he's trying to get you to
[2:02:30] Speaker 3: foul because you have two. that's the whole advantage of debate.
[2:02:34] Speaker 3: I get that. But that's what I'm saying is the problem.
[2:02:38] Speaker 3: It's the problem when it ain't a foul. It ain't
[2:02:42] Speaker 3: a foul. That's the problem when it's not a foul
[2:02:45] Speaker 3: and you're trying to get me to foul you so
[2:02:47] Speaker 3: hard that it now looks like a foul. But, I mean.
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: But that's part of the game, right?
[2:02:54] Speaker 3: It can't be. It's never been like that. We're spending
[2:02:57] Speaker 3: a whole possession on you trying to get me to
[2:02:59] Speaker 3: foul you.
[2:03:01] Speaker 4: Now tell me, it's some bullshit, but it's just smart-ass basketball.
[2:03:06] Speaker 4: There's only a few people who IQ is running this,
[2:03:09] Speaker 4: what's her name? You're talking about a Chris Paul. You're
[2:03:11] Speaker 4: talking about a J-Kid. You're talking about, I'm pretty sure
[2:03:14] Speaker 4: Luka will see this shit. Let's say you got five
[2:03:18] Speaker 4: fouls and your ass was running down the court and
[2:03:22] Speaker 4: you fail, right?
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: You just fail, this motherfucker just fail.
[2:03:27] Speaker 3: Them three motherfuckers is running over you. Run, trip, and
[2:03:30] Speaker 3: fall over you. Them three motherfuckers is going to run.
[2:03:33] Speaker 3: That's crazy. They over here calling the play. They see
[2:03:36] Speaker 3: you fail and you got 5,000. You're the best defender
[2:03:39] Speaker 3: or the best player. They're going to sit there and say,
[2:03:41] Speaker 3: fuck all that. They're going to run right to you,
[2:03:43] Speaker 3: trip over you.
[2:03:44] Speaker 1: Six fouls. Turnover.
[2:03:45] Speaker 3: Foul. Turnover, foul, whatever it is. It's a foul. In theory,
[2:03:51] Speaker 3: for that moment, what we know, yes, but I'm saying,
[2:03:54] Speaker 3: for what we've seen with Baton, that should not be
[2:03:57] Speaker 3: a fucking foul. That should be whatever it is. If
[2:04:00] Speaker 3: he keeps the ball and he falls.
[2:04:01] Speaker 2: I don't think you motherfucking running full speed and I'm
[2:04:03] Speaker 2: running behind and you stop in front of me, I
[2:04:05] Speaker 2: don't think that should be a foul.
[2:04:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the exact shit. They don't know what the
[2:04:09] Speaker 3: foul means. That's the exact shit. Yeah, you dribbling that
[2:04:11] Speaker 3: motherfucker down the floor and I'm running and trying to,
[2:04:14] Speaker 3: you can stop. And I get him up like, come on, man.
[2:04:18] Speaker 3: And in theory, it's a fucking charge. Because the rule is,
[2:04:23] Speaker 3: you have to be in defensive position. If you're on
[2:04:24] Speaker 3: the fucking floor, you ain't in no defensive position. So
[2:04:27] Speaker 3: a smart guy would just run over you. And that's
[2:04:30] Speaker 3: just like for shot blockers. Shot blockers love to block shots.
[2:04:33] Speaker 3: We don't like to fucking see them motherfuckers take charges.
[2:04:37] Speaker 3: You're like, man, get your punk ass up and stop
[2:04:39] Speaker 3: taking charges and meet me at the rim. What are
[2:04:41] Speaker 3: we doing? We're trying to dunk on it. What's up?
[2:04:43] Speaker 3: So it's the same with baiting fouls. It's like, bro,
[2:04:45] Speaker 3: let me guard you. Bro, let me guard you, bro.
[2:04:49] Speaker 3: I just want to guard you, bro. You ain't got
[2:04:50] Speaker 3: to do all that. Fuck, bro, let me guard you.
[2:04:54] Speaker 3: If I can't guard you, then I'm going to give
[2:04:56] Speaker 3: you the credit. If you flop, you better hope I
[2:04:59] Speaker 3: got one already. Oh, yeah, that sound going to be
[2:05:02] Speaker 3: a hard foul. You better hope I got one or
[2:05:04] Speaker 3: two already. You better hope you flop. I'm getting on
[2:05:09] Speaker 3: my nerves, man. Because if you flop and I ain't
[2:05:12] Speaker 3: got none, or I only got one, Oh, you guarantee
[2:05:18] Speaker 3: that next one?
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to look right at the ref.
[2:05:23] Speaker 3: Now, that's a five. And go to the bench. I'm
[2:05:26] Speaker 3: going to raise my– no, no, no. It'll be in
[2:05:28] Speaker 3: the right time, though. It's going to be at the
[2:05:30] Speaker 3: right time. Hey, now that's a five. Right there.
[2:05:33] Speaker 4: Like, what's so funny is even when we played them,
[2:05:35] Speaker 4: I already knew I'm going to shoot– I don't want
[2:05:39] Speaker 4: to be the first person to try to make a layup.
[2:05:41] Speaker 3: Right, because they sent in the middle. No, he go
[2:05:42] Speaker 3: to them first. Gets in there coming, that motherfucker. He
[2:05:46] Speaker 3: gonna try to grab it, throw that motherfucker in the
[2:05:47] Speaker 3: fourth fucking row.
[2:05:49] Speaker 4: Everybody gonna be like, oh! Like, oh, now you done
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: scared the whole team. Now everybody want to shoot motherfucking
[2:05:54] Speaker 4: jump shots, right? Shaquille O'Neal, you be the first one
[2:05:57] Speaker 4: to drive. He gonna do the same shit. He gonna come.
[2:06:00] Speaker 4: He ain't trying to block the shot. He gonna throw
[2:06:02] Speaker 4: that motherfucking heavy ass hip.
[2:06:04] Speaker 3: Boom! Floor, bam.
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: Everybody was like, ooh, shit. Jump shot, Citric.
[2:06:09] Speaker 3: What? Right?
[2:06:10] Speaker 4: So it's all part of the game, and everybody's learning
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: in real time, and if you don't know everybody's mannerisms,
[2:06:18] Speaker 4: you can be scared off the motherfucking court. You going in,
[2:06:20] Speaker 4: you ah, ah, ah, and throw one of these up,
[2:06:22] Speaker 4: and the motherfucker, ah! Niggas are going to be like,
[2:06:25] Speaker 4: you're going to be sitting there driving like, where the
[2:06:27] Speaker 4: fuck is Kenyon at?
[2:06:28] Speaker 3: What you just said about the Shaq shit, right? The
[2:06:30] Speaker 3: Shaq hip. That was the defense's protection. That was the
[2:06:34] Speaker 3: only protection. When you went in there and Shaq hit
[2:06:37] Speaker 3: you with that, it's like, do I want another one
[2:06:39] Speaker 3: of those? That's Can I handle another one at all?
[2:06:42] Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you from somebody that attacked the rim, no. No.
[2:06:46] Speaker 4: And that's why I be like, yo, when you talk
[2:06:48] Speaker 4: about people's defense, guard's defense, y'all have to realize who's
[2:06:52] Speaker 4: behind them sometimes. Like, you know, like, Derrick, yeah, you
[2:06:55] Speaker 4: had good defense.
[2:06:57] Speaker 3: But.
[2:06:59] Speaker 4: I didn't drive 90% of the time because that motherfucker
[2:07:01] Speaker 4: only had one foul or two fouls down there.
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: Like, so, I don't want that shit.
[2:07:06] Speaker 3: I don't have the type of body that wants to
[2:07:08] Speaker 3: feel what the floor feels like. Consistently. Like, you know
[2:07:12] Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, he's trying to prove a point.
[2:07:14] Speaker 4: The point for Shaq sometime was, I don't want you
[2:07:17] Speaker 4: guys to come in here.
[2:07:18] Speaker 1: So, I'm going to hit.
[2:07:19] Speaker 3: You so hard that you shoot jump shots. That was
[2:07:23] Speaker 3: his defense. Right?
[2:07:24] Speaker 4: So, some people... Same thing with you. There's some people
[2:07:28] Speaker 4: that's sitting there trying to fuck shit up.
[2:07:31] Speaker 1: Send a message.
[2:07:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sending a message. I don't want that message. Like,
[2:07:34] Speaker 3: I'm only going to drop.
[2:07:35] Speaker 1: It's the mental side. He's sending a mental game to you.
[2:07:37] Speaker 4: Like, if you look at how I played when I
[2:07:39] Speaker 4: hit the 60 against Kobe, right? Look who his back
[2:07:42] Speaker 4: line was. Oh, I'm coming up 27 free throws. These
[2:07:46] Speaker 4: motherfuckers ain't trying to foul nobody. They sitting there doing
[2:07:49] Speaker 4: this and doing that.
[2:07:50] Speaker 1: Shaq.
[2:07:51] Speaker 3: Pull-ups, jumpers, like, I'm not going down there with that
[2:07:54] Speaker 3: big motherfucker, man. He's clotheslining.
[2:07:57] Speaker 1: He's doing all that shit.
[2:07:58] Speaker 3: Even on your M1. Yeah, it's hard. If it's an M1,
[2:08:01] Speaker 3: you're going to feel that, man. Are you like Shaq
[2:08:03] Speaker 3: getting to the fourth quarter with three fouls, man?
[2:08:05] Speaker 1: Good motherfucking luck, man.
[2:08:06] Speaker 3: Good luck.
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: Good luck. Nobody want to feel that shit, man. They're
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: that serious. Trust me. Man, listen.
[2:08:12] Speaker 3: We don't got none of that in the league right now.
[2:08:13] Speaker 3: He turned that motherfucker's gift into you, man. At all.
[2:08:17] Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan probably.
[2:08:18] Speaker 2: You wide or you motherfucking trying to go dumb. I'm
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: taking off with two.
[2:08:21] Speaker 3: Yep.
[2:08:23] Speaker 1: He motherfucking turn.
[2:08:24] Speaker 3: Boom. Boom. Like, people think, like, you ain't dunk on Shaq? No.
[2:08:28] Speaker 3: Did you see what the fuck he does when you
[2:08:30] Speaker 3: try to dunk on him?
[2:08:32] Speaker 1: Bah!
[2:08:32] Speaker 3: Like, ah. What? So we asked the chat, does Steph
[2:08:36] Speaker 3: get an unfair whistle? 50-50 split.
[2:08:41] Speaker 1: I like that. Hey, we just talked him all the
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: way down to 50, goddamn.
[2:08:45] Speaker 3: Because that shit is about 70, that shit is 70, 30.
[2:08:49] Speaker 4: To be honest, if Curry played to the whistle, oh,
[2:08:55] Speaker 4: this motherfucker has so many fouls.
[2:08:56] Speaker 1: Because he's so little.
[2:08:58] Speaker 3: He's so little, every time you touch him, he can.
[2:09:01] Speaker 1: Flop it if you want to. He'll get the many
[2:09:03] Speaker 1: eye calls.
[2:09:04] Speaker 2: If he did what Trae Young does, Trae Young knows
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: how to.
[2:09:09] Speaker 1: He going to fall out. Right?
[2:09:11] Speaker 2: You bump Trey Young coming off the floor, he going
[2:09:14] Speaker 2: to motherfucking hop.
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: He ain't going to turn that bitch.
[2:09:16] Speaker 3: He want you to blow the whistle. And if you don't,
[2:09:18] Speaker 3: he going to keep going. But he trying to get.
[2:09:20] Speaker 1: You to blow the whistle.
[2:09:22] Speaker 3: Right? It's so. I'm big on making guys look like
[2:09:26] Speaker 3: they're playing selfish, though. Like, guys like Trey, and if
[2:09:30] Speaker 3: Steph hadn't built the legacy, he would be one of
[2:09:33] Speaker 3: those guys that's taking them long-ass three-pointers that, like, originally
[2:09:38] Speaker 3: is a bad shot. Like, we're trying to run the offense,
[2:09:41] Speaker 3: and you just come out to pick and roll, and
[2:09:42] Speaker 3: you just 40-footer randomly, and it don't go in? As
[2:09:48] Speaker 3: a team, we're looking at you like, bro, what is
[2:09:50] Speaker 3: you doing? Right? So Trey Young, if we play him
[2:09:53] Speaker 3: a certain way in the pick and roll where he
[2:09:55] Speaker 3: always got to make the pocket pass, he can't come
[2:09:58] Speaker 3: off and manipulate all this foul and shit, and the
[2:10:01] Speaker 3: only shot you got is that deep three or that floater.
[2:10:04] Speaker 3: That's all your game regulated to if we guard you
[2:10:07] Speaker 3: the right way. Steph Curry, I'm not going to say
[2:10:09] Speaker 3: that's going to be his game because he does have
[2:10:11] Speaker 3: layup package.
[2:10:12] Speaker 1: He does have floaters and mid-ranges.
[2:10:14] Speaker 3: But the game looks different when you start being penalized
[2:10:17] Speaker 3: for taking bad shots. And it's like, yeah, you can
[2:10:20] Speaker 3: shoot 42%, 41% from 40. But when that shit don't
[2:10:25] Speaker 3: go in and it leads to other fast break points,
[2:10:28] Speaker 3: transition points on the other side, and you're not guarding
[2:10:31] Speaker 3: and being an all-team defense on the other end, Now
[2:10:34] Speaker 3: we're at a discrepancy. That's always been my thing with
[2:10:37] Speaker 3: Steph and Trey and Luka. Give me something on the
[2:10:40] Speaker 3: other end, bro, so we can say you a solid
[2:10:42] Speaker 3: fucking player.
[2:10:43] Speaker 1: Oh, that's real. For certain situations, I hear you.
[2:10:51] Speaker 2: They are at a physical disadvantage at times.
[2:10:57] Speaker 1: Most times.
[2:10:58] Speaker 3: Go ahead and say the words. Steph and Trey and
[2:11:02] Speaker 3: certain guys, they are there. physical disadvantage at times. Not
[2:11:07] Speaker 3: all the time.
[2:11:09] Speaker 1: I could have been a singer. I see why he
[2:11:15] Speaker 1: had that baby oil. Hey, let's keep it moving before
[2:11:19] Speaker 1: this conversation takes a turn. So moving along, one team
[2:11:27] Speaker 1: in the West appears to be healthy just at the
[2:11:29] Speaker 1: right time. Kawhi Leonard was named Western Conference Player of
[2:11:33] Speaker 1: the Week.
[2:11:33] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Kawhi Leonard was named Western Conference
[2:11:37] Speaker 3: Player of the Week. Let's take a look at what
[2:11:38] Speaker 3: Kawhi's done. We like Kawhi here in the arena. I
[2:11:40] Speaker 3: know you don't play on the right team. I got
[2:11:42] Speaker 3: a Kawhi jersey. Thank you. Show some respect to the Kawhi.
[2:11:45] Speaker 1: Kawhi averaged 25.6 rebounds and two steals per game en
[2:11:49] Speaker 1: route to winning the award Western Conference Player of the Week.
[2:11:53] Speaker 1: Did he go 3-0?
[2:11:55] Speaker 3: What did they do? I don't mean to be the hater.
[2:11:58] Speaker 3: I do have a Kawhi Leonard jersey. I bought one
[2:12:02] Speaker 3: just in case. I had to switch sides.
[2:12:06] Speaker 1: Did they go 3-0? He looked for you, Gil. Always
[2:12:09] Speaker 1: asking his fucking question.
[2:12:10] Speaker 3: When did we start talking about Clippers? That's crazy, Joe.
[2:12:16] Speaker 3: They did go.
[2:12:16] Speaker 1: We have 2-0.
[2:12:17] Speaker 3: 4-0.
[2:12:17] Speaker 1: Other team in Los Angeles. He deserves it.
[2:12:21] Speaker 3: This has been a consistent run for Kawhi.
[2:12:23] Speaker 1: Since March 1st, Kawhi has averaged a 25.7 rebounds, two steals,
[2:12:27] Speaker 1: with 53-42, 83 shooting splits. Clippers currently 46-32, good for
[2:12:32] Speaker 1: fifth in the West, in a very fluid bracket right now.
[2:12:34] Speaker 1: As we know, it's going to come down to Sunday,
[2:12:37] Speaker 1: the last game of the NBA regular season.
[2:12:39] Speaker 3: Oh, my shit.
[2:12:40] Speaker 1: So he's back to being Kawhi. He's back to being Kawhi.
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: He's back to being the person that we know of.
[2:12:46] Speaker 2: That's what you just said. All that shit you just.
[2:12:50] Speaker 3: Read, he's back to being a person. That's all you
[2:12:52] Speaker 3: had to say.
[2:12:52] Speaker 1: Kawhi back. Kawhi's back.
[2:12:54] Speaker 3: You did all that reading, you just said Kawhi back.
[2:12:56] Speaker 3: We're like, okay, we got it. Reading is fundamental. It is.
[2:12:59] Speaker 1: How dangerous are the Clippers in the playoffs with a
[2:13:02] Speaker 1: healthy Kawhi Leonard? That's always the question mark when you
[2:13:04] Speaker 1: talk about Kawhi in the past few years. The Kawhi
[2:13:07] Speaker 1: PG era marred by injuries. Kawhi injured last postseason. But
[2:13:12] Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, play at this level. How
[2:13:15] Speaker 1: dangerous is that Clippers squad?
[2:13:20] Speaker 3: We said before, we were saying the 4-5 matchup if
[2:13:23] Speaker 3: they have to play Denver. We believe in them.
[2:13:26] Speaker 2: They have two guys that's proven. Two-time finals MVP in Kawhi.
[2:13:37] Speaker 2: This is the time of year that he shows up.
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: James is trying to prove something. Trying to win something.
[2:13:43] Speaker 2: I think T. Lewis trying to do the same as
[2:13:45] Speaker 2: a head coach. Norm Powell and a piece of Zubac
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: is playing, having the best year of their career. So
[2:13:56] Speaker 2: it's shaping up for them to make some noise, but yeah.
[2:14:02] Speaker 1: We'll see. Then it's fifth? Yeah.
[2:14:05] Speaker 3: Fifth.
[2:14:06] Speaker 1: Right matchup.
[2:14:07] Speaker 3: But you got four teams tied at 46 and 32. Yeah,
[2:14:09] Speaker 3: so it just.
[2:14:10] Speaker 2: Depends on who they play in the first round, how
[2:14:12] Speaker 2: it's going to look, but They are, they still have
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: all those pieces that I just mentioned. So, yeah, you
[2:14:19] Speaker 2: just want to give yourself a chance. And with the
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: time that Kawhi missed early on in the season for
[2:14:24] Speaker 2: you to still be where you are, says a lot
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: about the surrounding cast.
[2:14:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:14:29] Speaker 1: And the coaching job that T. Lou and them did.
[2:14:31] Speaker 3: So, that's what's up. Kawhi's injury first reported.
[2:14:34] Speaker 1: We thought they might be cooked, but James Harden, that crew,
[2:14:36] Speaker 1: Zuboff's playing at a Mackey level, Norm Powell, who's missed
[2:14:40] Speaker 1: some games, but, you know.
[2:14:43] Speaker 3: I've seen something by Nick Wright, and it's starting to
[2:14:45] Speaker 3: look like that in the West Coast. When he said
[2:14:47] Speaker 3: something about when he originally did the play-in game, you
[2:14:50] Speaker 3: should be at least four games.
[2:14:53] Speaker 4: Within the team, right? So from ninth to eighth, you
[2:14:56] Speaker 4: should be within striking distance, right? Memphis is eight games
[2:15:04] Speaker 4: out of the losing side.
[2:15:06] Speaker 1: They got 32 losses. SAC has 40 losses.
[2:15:11] Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but why the fuck am I playing them
[2:15:15] Speaker 4: in the play-in game?
[2:15:16] Speaker 1: Like, why?
[2:15:17] Speaker 2: Why are they even in the conversation? Why is any
[2:15:20] Speaker 2: team in 10th in the conversation? I've been saying, why
[2:15:23] Speaker 2: is any team in 10th in the conversation?
[2:15:26] Speaker 1: 10th, shit, I mean 11 games. I mean 11 games
[2:15:28] Speaker 1: in front of 10th. Like, why am I.
[2:15:32] Speaker 3: What the fuck does this.
[2:15:33] Speaker 1: This is stupid.
[2:15:34] Speaker 3: I've been saying this shit, bro.
[2:15:35] Speaker 4: That doesn't even make... This doesn't even make sense. Like,
[2:15:37] Speaker 4: there should be a guideline where if this is a close.
[2:15:41] Speaker 3: Like, you're talking about from fifth spot... From fifth to eighth.
[2:15:47] Speaker 3: All tied. They're all tied. Right?
[2:15:50] Speaker 4: So you're telling me fifth to 10th You're talking about
[2:15:54] Speaker 4: 11 games spread and we can play for our spot?
[2:15:57] Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. That's the dumbest shit ever.
[2:16:00] Speaker 3: You know why? Because you're expected to win that game.
[2:16:05] Speaker 3: It's one game. But why we playing it?
[2:16:06] Speaker 1: Because. The fucking, the 10th, you had all season, dog.
[2:16:09] Speaker 3: We understand.
[2:16:10] Speaker 1: You had all season.
[2:16:11] Speaker 3: You had 82 games. This is like that mystery box.
[2:16:14] Speaker 3: This is the mystery box, right? So those teams at
[2:16:17] Speaker 3: the bottom of the Eastern Conference or Western Conference, y'all,
[2:16:20] Speaker 3: you feel like you wrapped this spot up. You deserve it, right?
[2:16:23] Speaker 3: You deserve what? The 10th spot? No, the 8th. Yes.
[2:16:26] Speaker 3: You feel like you deserve it. So they're saying, they're saying,
[2:16:28] Speaker 3: Instead of you feeling so deserving of this spot, even
[2:16:31] Speaker 3: a team that's undeserving has a chance to take this
[2:16:33] Speaker 3: spot if you don't come in and do what you're
[2:16:35] Speaker 3: supposed to do.
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: See, that don't make no sense. Let's look at the 4-8.
[2:16:38] Speaker 3: The only way that 9 should be in the play, right?
[2:16:41] Speaker 3: If 8 and 9, y'all have the exact same record
[2:16:45] Speaker 3: after 82 games... Eight and nine.
[2:16:48] Speaker 2: If you're eight and that team, y'all got the same
[2:16:51] Speaker 2: record that that team that's in nine. You're in nine,
[2:16:53] Speaker 2: got the same record. That's the only way there should
[2:16:56] Speaker 2: be a play-in game. The only fucking way.
[2:16:59] Speaker 3: Just like college, man. That's 67 team shit. Just saying.
[2:17:01] Speaker 3: That shit's stupid as fuck. There's still teams that's trying
[2:17:04] Speaker 3: to get in. Just to have an opportunity to be
[2:17:07] Speaker 3: a Cinderella. To lose in the first round. Yeah, to
[2:17:10] Speaker 3: lose in the first round. Or to get to the
[2:17:12] Speaker 3: fucking final. You're not. You're not anymore. Miami Heat. Not
[2:17:15] Speaker 3: no more. Miami Heat. But they was in it. Miami Heat.
[2:17:18] Speaker 1: But why do we have the 82.
[2:17:19] Speaker 3: Games for then?
[2:17:20] Speaker 1: What is the point of the 82 games?
[2:17:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:17:22] Speaker 1: If somebody who can.
[2:17:23] Speaker 3: Be literally horrible all year long and then say, you
[2:17:27] Speaker 3: know what, y'all? We just got to be good. One game.
[2:17:31] Speaker 3: It's like double elimination in pool play. You lost twice
[2:17:34] Speaker 3: and still can get third place. No, like you lost twice.
[2:17:38] Speaker 4: The NCAA has it right, right? They got the 64 teams.
[2:17:43] Speaker 4: And then whatever this NIT shit is, do that.
[2:17:45] Speaker 1: Do that with the NBA.
[2:17:46] Speaker 3: 9 through 16, y'all play some bottom bull shit. Play
[2:17:50] Speaker 3: some bottom bullshit basketball. It used to be 64 teams.
[2:17:54] Speaker 2: Now you got fucking 68 teams, and you got two
[2:17:57] Speaker 2: other off-brand games. They playing for 63 and 64. Like,
[2:18:01] Speaker 2: that shit's stupid as fuck. But what happens, though? You
[2:18:04] Speaker 2: filter out the whole bracket every year. The teams that's
[2:18:08] Speaker 2: supposed to be there... In the Elite Eight?
[2:18:11] Speaker 3: They are there. The first season, third, second season. So
[2:18:15] Speaker 3: it's just to filter out the entertainment part. It's like,
[2:18:18] Speaker 3: how are we going to get entertained? The eighth pot
[2:18:21] Speaker 3: was supposed to play the seventh, but they lost to
[2:18:22] Speaker 3: the tenth. So the tenth just came in. They had
[2:18:25] Speaker 3: a big game. Such and such killed them for 57.
[2:18:28] Speaker 3: They won and put them niggas out. So that's what
[2:18:30] Speaker 3: I'm saying. You're erasing 82 games for one game.
[2:18:33] Speaker 1: What is the point then? One game.
[2:18:36] Speaker 3: You might as well just say, fuck the season, and
[2:18:38] Speaker 3: then just do bracket play during the playoffs. Yeah. You
[2:18:41] Speaker 3: don't put yourself in a position to be eighth so
[2:18:44] Speaker 3: that you lose. Somebody got to be eighth. Don't put
[2:18:48] Speaker 3: yourself in a position. You win them games you were
[2:18:50] Speaker 3: supposed to win. So, Sean, if I got 50 wins
[2:18:53] Speaker 3: and I'm eighth. And you got 40. Are you one
[2:18:55] Speaker 3: game back? Are you one game back from seven? I
[2:18:57] Speaker 3: got 50 games and I'm eighth, right? I got 50
[2:18:59] Speaker 3: wins and I'm eighth. What you mean? Like, I've won
[2:19:07] Speaker 3: more than... So I'm supposed to have a... You're supposed
[2:19:10] Speaker 3: to win this next game.
[2:19:11] Speaker 2: But why do I have to play in that game
[2:19:12] Speaker 2: when this team got fucking 35 wins?
[2:19:14] Speaker 3: It's the next game. It's like a wild card in football.
[2:19:18] Speaker 3: Just like in football, the wild card. Before we get
[2:19:22] Speaker 3: to the actual playoffs, y'all got to beat them to
[2:19:25] Speaker 3: get in. No, it's not.
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: It's like having a game before the wild card game.
[2:19:30] Speaker 3: That too. No. Why not? No. So you can try.
[2:19:33] Speaker 3: You have a chance to be in the wild card.
[2:19:35] Speaker 1: You suck. And that's the point.
[2:19:37] Speaker 3: We suck. Yes. We have a chance to be in
[2:19:40] Speaker 3: the wild card. No, no, no.
[2:19:42] Speaker 1: You had a chance.
[2:19:43] Speaker 3: You blew it. Every year, we have a team that
[2:19:45] Speaker 3: don't play. Look, we don't have a team that don't
[2:19:47] Speaker 3: play well. And no mulligans in this shit. You know
[2:19:49] Speaker 3: what team that usually is? The Cleveland Browns. They fucking trash.
[2:19:53] Speaker 3: Year in, year out. But you give them a fucking
[2:19:56] Speaker 3: shot to beat a team that every year they're close
[2:19:59] Speaker 3: to beating.
[2:20:00] Speaker 1: Like, man, we almost beat them motherfuckers every year.
[2:20:03] Speaker 3: If you give them a chance in the playoffs to
[2:20:05] Speaker 3: beat them, they'll beat them. You the main one always
[2:20:07] Speaker 3: sitting on this motherfucker talking about winning matters, winning matters.
[2:20:10] Speaker 3: I say we are. I'm the one that say we
[2:20:11] Speaker 3: always got a 10. Winning, winning, winning.
[2:20:12] Speaker 1: I'm going to always win. We got a 10. No,
[2:20:14] Speaker 1: your chance.
[2:20:15] Speaker 6: We got it.
[2:20:15] Speaker 1: I've always said.
[2:20:17] Speaker 3: Your chance was the 82 game. We got a 10.
[2:20:19] Speaker 1: Your chance, Rashad, was the 82 game.
[2:20:21] Speaker 3: But the 82 is not up. Yes, it is. No. Yes.
[2:20:24] Speaker 3: We got one. No. That's 83.
[2:20:26] Speaker 7: That's 83.
[2:20:28] Speaker 3: No. It doesn't say. That's why they put it in.
[2:20:31] Speaker 3: When this shit first started, right, it wasn't we're going
[2:20:34] Speaker 3: to give you 82 and we're Maybe. An opportunity.
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: Opportunity was you blew it, motherfucker. We didn't blow it.
[2:20:42] Speaker 1: We're going to give them hope.
[2:20:43] Speaker 3: Hope.
[2:20:44] Speaker 2: Listen, hope went to work on, motherfucker, Easter Sunday and
[2:20:48] Speaker 2: wasn't nobody in there.
[2:20:50] Speaker 3: Except for John Canyon. Somebody was in there. Jesus was there.
[2:20:52] Speaker 1: When I'm saying this. Somebody always in there.
[2:20:55] Speaker 3: Look at this. It's just like when I went to, listen,
[2:20:57] Speaker 3: that day I tried to go to Crazy Girls and
[2:20:59] Speaker 3: that bitch wasn't open yet. Motherfucker, 8, 39 o'clock at night,
[2:21:02] Speaker 3: ain't no....
[2:21:05] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody in there, motherfucker.
[2:21:06] Speaker 3: I was in there. I told them to close the door. No,
[2:21:08] Speaker 3: you wasn't there. Close the motherfucker. Lock it. Lock it.
[2:21:12] Speaker 3: Don't let nobody in the front door. No, that shit weak.
[2:21:15] Speaker 3: That's losing mentality shit, dog.
[2:21:16] Speaker 1: That shit weak.
[2:21:17] Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man. Give them an opportunity. Like this.
[2:21:20] Speaker 3: The East, Milwaukee and Detroit, 44 wins, 43 wins. They
[2:21:22] Speaker 3: are locked. 44 and 43. The West, eighth spot is
[2:21:25] Speaker 3: 46 wins.
[2:21:36] Speaker 4: You got 46 wins, and you still playing for a
[2:21:38] Speaker 4: playoff chance.
[2:21:40] Speaker 3: That's why they're the varsity. No, but look. You talking
[2:21:42] Speaker 3: about Miami. Let's talk about Miami. Miami got 36. No,
[2:21:46] Speaker 3: let's talk Miami and Dallas right now. Miami-Dallas is 10.
[2:21:50] Speaker 3: They both had 10, and they both— 38. But for
[2:21:54] Speaker 3: them two teams who've been to the playoffs, who has
[2:21:58] Speaker 3: playoff contention abilities— has the right to come in and
[2:22:02] Speaker 3: try to play for this eighth spot? No. I got
[2:22:05] Speaker 3: eight more wins than you. Because we can beat y'all. Why,
[2:22:09] Speaker 3: you had 82 games to prove that. That's the right.
[2:22:11] Speaker 3: The fact that we can beat y'all. What gives you
[2:22:13] Speaker 3: the right, though? The fact that we can beat y'all. No,
[2:22:16] Speaker 3: you had 82 games to prove that. We got one more.
[2:22:20] Speaker 3: You know what's so funny? Memphis and eighth spot. What
[2:22:22] Speaker 3: if Memphis and eighth spot says, hey, man, look, we
[2:22:25] Speaker 3: got 46 wins. Houston has 52. We're closer to Houston
[2:22:34] Speaker 3: at second than Tim's.
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: Spot is to us.
[2:22:38] Speaker 3: So look, so let me fight for second spot then.
[2:22:41] Speaker 3: These motherfuckers and Tim can fight for my spot. Let
[2:22:45] Speaker 3: me fight for two. There are eight games behind me.
[2:22:49] Speaker 3: I'm only six games behind them. Let me fight for that.
[2:22:54] Speaker 3: When the playoffs start, does the regular season matter? No.
[2:22:57] Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say it starts... These 10 teams.
[2:23:02] Speaker 3: The teams that are in for the wild card play-in.
[2:23:07] Speaker 3: The bullshit games. Boom. From this point forward... We have
[2:23:13] Speaker 3: to play.
[2:23:13] Speaker 1: But why is there 10 teams?
[2:23:15] Speaker 3: Why not? Because my team has been bullshitting all year.
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: We haven't bullshitted all year.
[2:23:21] Speaker 1: But you've got a losing record.
[2:23:23] Speaker 3: We haven't bullshitted. Just like Detroit last year, they lost
[2:23:26] Speaker 3: a lot of close games. Close only counts in horseshoes
[2:23:29] Speaker 3: and hand grenades. It do count when they're now five.
[2:23:31] Speaker 1: They're now five.
[2:23:32] Speaker 3: Horseshoes and hand grenades. When we played good last year,
[2:23:35] Speaker 3: we had a lot of close games that we lost.
[2:23:38] Speaker 3: We was at 10. Now we're at five? Because those
[2:23:42] Speaker 3: games we took advantage of, we learned from. Yeah, you learned.
[2:23:45] Speaker 3: So if you put them last year in 10 and
[2:23:47] Speaker 3: they can play for the play-in, they can win that game.
[2:23:50] Speaker 3: But you can't put them last year. But that's what
[2:23:52] Speaker 3: they're doing. They learned from being in 10th. I'm telling you.
[2:23:55] Speaker 3: They learned from being in 10th last year. Now they're
[2:23:57] Speaker 3: in 5th. That's the point. That's the way it go.
[2:24:00] Speaker 3: You ain't motherfucking 10th. You go back to the drawing
[2:24:03] Speaker 3: board and goddamn it, get better. You don't want to
[2:24:05] Speaker 3: be 10, right? You don't want to be 10, right? 10,
[2:24:08] Speaker 3: you suck. So you work to get to 6 and 7. 10,
[2:24:10] Speaker 3: you fucking suck. Yeah, I can play to get to
[2:24:12] Speaker 3: the plate. You can't even get to 7 anymore. Oh,
[2:24:15] Speaker 3: but if I play and I get better and I'm
[2:24:17] Speaker 3: playing at 7, I don't have to play.
[2:24:19] Speaker 1: So should it just be top 7, top 7?
[2:24:21] Speaker 3: No, it should be like before, top 8. No. If
[2:24:24] Speaker 3: the game's so boring now, you scramble. Scramble these motherfuckers
[2:24:28] Speaker 3: and make it. You ain't got, ain't nothing guaranteed. This
[2:24:30] Speaker 3: 10 team come here and beat you this one game
[2:24:32] Speaker 3: and have your ass in here like, what the fuck
[2:24:34] Speaker 3: just happened? Like, that's what I'm saying.
[2:24:35] Speaker 4: Like, if you're eight games behind me and you're allowed
[2:24:39] Speaker 4: to fight for my spot, why am I not allowed
[2:24:43] Speaker 4: to fight for a spot that's six games in.
[2:24:45] Speaker 1: Front of me? That I feel I can get. I
[2:24:46] Speaker 1: can feel I can get.
[2:24:47] Speaker 3: It's a one game. One game. One game. I just
[2:24:49] Speaker 3: got to play Houston one game. Hey, let the Jazz
[2:24:52] Speaker 3: go play Oklahoma City. The eight games y'all got to
[2:24:54] Speaker 3: get ahead of us were games where guys set load
[2:24:57] Speaker 3: management and all the little.
[2:24:59] Speaker 1: Do those games count?
[2:25:01] Speaker 3: Yes. Of course they count.
[2:25:02] Speaker 4: So if I'm saying if I'm only six games behind
[2:25:05] Speaker 4: Houston and I'm Memphis, I would rather say, you know what?
[2:25:08] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hold on.
[2:25:09] Speaker 3: Let me fight for that spot. But you're not better
[2:25:11] Speaker 3: than me. You're not better than me. You just have
[2:25:15] Speaker 3: more wins based on circumstance. We know we can beat you.
[2:25:18] Speaker 3: You can say our record is the thing that reflects
[2:25:24] Speaker 3: us not having a reason to play for the play-in.
[2:25:28] Speaker 3: If the play-in, if I know that the games that
[2:25:31] Speaker 3: y'all want to get ahead of us were bullshit games,
[2:25:34] Speaker 3: we know we can beat y'all.
[2:25:35] Speaker 1: And I know I can beat Houston.
[2:25:38] Speaker 3: If I'm Memphis, I don't. That's the point, to put
[2:25:39] Speaker 3: everybody in the opportunity to win in the playoffs.
[2:25:42] Speaker 1: That's what the schedule is for.
[2:25:43] Speaker 3: Everybody. That's why the play-in is there. That's why the
[2:25:46] Speaker 3: play-in is there. But what I'm saying is why. What
[2:25:48] Speaker 3: is the 82-game schedule for then? What is the playoff
[2:25:51] Speaker 3: schedule for? What is the 82-game schedule for then? It's
[2:25:54] Speaker 3: the regular season. What is it for? To play back.
[2:25:56] Speaker 1: To dictate what? To playoffs.
[2:25:58] Speaker 3: 82 games. Ten spots. No.
[2:26:05] Speaker 1: Eight spots.
[2:26:06] Speaker 3: Ain't no eight spots no more.
[2:26:08] Speaker 1: So stop saying it.
[2:26:09] Speaker 3: Stop saying it. It's for playing with ten spots and
[2:26:14] Speaker 3: a motherfucker got to play and prove to himself that
[2:26:17] Speaker 3: you deserve this spot.
[2:26:18] Speaker 1: And you ain't gonna change the rules. So goddamn it adapted.
[2:26:22] Speaker 1: to it.
[2:26:23] Speaker 3: Your motherfuckers gonna lose in the first round. Don't play us.
[2:26:26] Speaker 1: Take ass to the.
[2:26:29] Speaker 3: Goddamn drawing board and draw the play up the right way. Hey,
[2:26:32] Speaker 3: in the words of motherfucking Ace Ventura, the pet detective, la-hoo-zer-er. Now,
[2:26:39] Speaker 3: if you lose to us, who's a loser?
[2:26:42] Speaker 1: No, but that's what I'm saying.
[2:26:44] Speaker 3: Now, take your ass home, loser. It's only if nobody
[2:26:46] Speaker 3: loses to no 10th. It's only if nobody loses to
[2:26:50] Speaker 3: no 10th. Don't be scared. What you scared of? What
[2:26:53] Speaker 3: you complaining about if you ain't scared? You going to
[2:26:55] Speaker 3: beat us? It ain't happening yet. It ain't happening yet.
[2:26:58] Speaker 3: But you can get lucky one game. And they don't
[2:27:00] Speaker 3: hear that shit.
[2:27:01] Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, if I'm 11 games in
[2:27:03] Speaker 4: front of you, and you're allowed to fight for my spot,
[2:27:07] Speaker 4: I literally should be able to fight for any spot
[2:27:11] Speaker 4: in front of me that's in the same realm.
[2:27:14] Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. You're adding two teams to the playoff.
[2:27:20] Speaker 3: But you're 11 games from behind seven spots. You want
[2:27:23] Speaker 3: to play more games in the playoff.
[2:27:26] Speaker 4: But you're 11 games away from me, but I'm only
[2:27:29] Speaker 4: two games away from second, but I'm in seventh. Why
[2:27:31] Speaker 4: can't I fight for second? Two games is separating us.
[2:27:35] Speaker 4: Eleven games is separating us. But you can fight for
[2:27:39] Speaker 4: my spot and have hope.
[2:27:40] Speaker 1: Why can't I fight hope?
[2:27:41] Speaker 3: Look, the last three games of the season, are we
[2:27:44] Speaker 3: not fighting for what positions? Yes, we are. Right. And
[2:27:46] Speaker 3: when that time is up, everybody should be over. There's
[2:27:50] Speaker 3: not eight anymore.
[2:27:52] Speaker 1: Well, like I said.
[2:27:53] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
[2:27:54] Speaker 1: There's actually eight.
[2:27:55] Speaker 3: Because eight. Playing for a play-in spot.
[2:27:58] Speaker 2: Eight solidify themselves. Rashad, when you make the statement, I'm
[2:28:01] Speaker 2: hearing you. But when you're saying it. make sure you
[2:28:05] Speaker 2: put them last two teams or fucking bullshit, horseshit NBA teams.
[2:28:10] Speaker 1: We talk about the West, but you look at on
[2:28:11] Speaker 1: the East side.
[2:28:12] Speaker 3: I said it only happens in the West. Because Phoenix
[2:28:16] Speaker 3: is one of those teams. My point is you got
[2:28:18] Speaker 3: the Magic in seventh right now, 38 and 40. You
[2:28:19] Speaker 3: got the Hawks in eighth at 37 and 41. You
[2:28:20] Speaker 3: got the Bulls in ninth at 36 and 42, and
[2:28:22] Speaker 3: you got the Heat in 10th right now. 36-43. Yes, sir.
[2:28:28] Speaker 1: So why do they need to go to the playoffs
[2:28:31] Speaker 1: then if they're trash?
[2:28:32] Speaker 3: No, no, no. And we got Western. We got Western.
[2:28:34] Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is somebody got to make it
[2:28:36] Speaker 1: in East.
[2:28:36] Speaker 3: When you think about the playoffs. Why not just make
[2:28:38] Speaker 3: it top 16 then? I agree with you.
[2:28:40] Speaker 4: No, when you think about the play-in, the East Coast,
[2:28:43] Speaker 4: it always makes sense for the East because it's only
[2:28:44] Speaker 4: one or two games from 8th to 10th.
[2:28:47] Speaker 3: Right? So you have 8th at 37th, 9th at 36th,
[2:28:49] Speaker 3: 10th at 36th. 7th at 38.
[2:28:54] Speaker 4: So they're a game away from beating each other. So
[2:28:57] Speaker 4: them four motherfuckers should be playing for something.
[2:28:59] Speaker 3: Right? Cool. But when 8th.
[2:29:02] Speaker 4: Spot has 46 wins and then 10th spot has 38
[2:29:07] Speaker 4: wins in the West, you're not in the same realm.
[2:29:11] Speaker 3: Why are we even playing against each other? Because we've
[2:29:14] Speaker 3: been kicking y'all ass all year.
[2:29:16] Speaker 4: We're not the same.
[2:29:18] Speaker 3: These are one or two games. It doesn't have anything
[2:29:20] Speaker 3: to do with it being the same. It doesn't have
[2:29:22] Speaker 3: to be the same. It's the fact that whether we
[2:29:25] Speaker 3: have 11 games above or below you, you got to
[2:29:28] Speaker 3: play us to get in. Well, that's because they put
[2:29:30] Speaker 3: it in, but you don't believe that shit. I do.
[2:29:32] Speaker 1: No, you don't.
[2:29:33] Speaker 3: You get an opportunity. You didn't believe that shit before?
[2:29:35] Speaker 3: If you can beat us, beat us. You didn't believe
[2:29:37] Speaker 3: that shit before they put it in? It's the same
[2:29:39] Speaker 3: thing with the wild card. If the wild card team
[2:29:42] Speaker 3: that comes in to get the wild card bid against
[2:29:44] Speaker 3: a good.
[2:29:45] Speaker 1: Team, you got to beat that team.
[2:29:47] Speaker 3: All right, let's change the money. Let's change the money.
[2:29:50] Speaker 3: Let's say you have a million dollars. We're playing big
[2:29:53] Speaker 3: bank take little bank. You got a million. I got $ 500, 000. Literally, right?
[2:29:59] Speaker 4: You got the big bank. I got the little bank.
[2:30:02] Speaker 4: I get to motherfucking roll one dice.
[2:30:06] Speaker 1: To win your money. Are you really even?
[2:30:09] Speaker 3: It is the same. It's not a 50-50 scenario for
[2:30:12] Speaker 3: a team that is good enough to go on.
[2:30:15] Speaker 1: To go on where?
[2:30:15] Speaker 3: To go on to the playoffs. To play extra games.
[2:30:19] Speaker 1: How are you good enough? What do you mean? How
[2:30:21] Speaker 1: are you good enough?
[2:30:22] Speaker 3: You said that because of the record.
[2:30:24] Speaker 1: The record has shown you lost.
[2:30:25] Speaker 3: Your bank account shows you have more money. But we
[2:30:29] Speaker 3: get to roll one dice to see who wins your money.
[2:30:32] Speaker 3: That's not a good scenario because that's a 50. 50
[2:30:37] Speaker 3: 50 is not that's luck you're rolling for luck bro
[2:30:49] Speaker 3: we're not rolling for luck if i'm better than you
[2:30:51] Speaker 3: as a team if you we're 11 games higher than
[2:30:54] Speaker 3: me we're 11 games higher than you yeah right i
[2:30:57] Speaker 3: have to prove why huh why do i have to
[2:31:00] Speaker 3: prove why because we got this why do you have
[2:31:02] Speaker 3: to prove that because you have the spot Rashad, you
[2:31:05] Speaker 3: have the eighth spot or the ninth spot. Now you
[2:31:07] Speaker 3: have to prove against the 10. So I'm proving my
[2:31:11] Speaker 3: $ 500, 000 is more than your $ 1 million.
[2:31:13] Speaker 1: It's 50, it's 50. So starting in the bubble, I
[2:31:16] Speaker 1: think that was just for 8-9, and then I believe
[2:31:17] Speaker 1: after that, 21. I have a question for you, Rashad.
[2:31:21] Speaker 3: Before that season, before that season, before the 2020 season.
[2:31:28] Speaker 1: It was 8-9 in the bubble. They played for the
[2:31:30] Speaker 1: eighth spot.
[2:31:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:31:31] Speaker 1: So five years ago, right?
[2:31:34] Speaker 3: Did you think that? I didn't know nothing about it.
[2:31:36] Speaker 3: I wouldn't have.
[2:31:36] Speaker 1: I didn't ask you that. I wouldn't have thought about it.
[2:31:39] Speaker 2: So you was cool with it only being 18?
[2:31:41] Speaker 3: Nobody would. Was you cool with it only being 18?
[2:31:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[2:31:45] Speaker 3: It was never introduced before it was introduced. So everybody
[2:31:50] Speaker 3: could literally sit around. Did you think before they changed
[2:31:53] Speaker 3: the rule that 10 should have a chance?
[2:31:55] Speaker 1: Nobody thought it.
[2:31:57] Speaker 3: Because why?
[2:31:59] Speaker 1: Because it wasn't realistic. Because of what?
[2:32:02] Speaker 3: I don't fucking know. I didn't come up with it.
[2:32:03] Speaker 1: Because of their fucking record.
[2:32:05] Speaker 3: They came up with it for a reason.
[2:32:07] Speaker 2: Before, eight and nine could be tied. And they went
[2:32:10] Speaker 2: with head-to-head matchups, conference record.
[2:32:14] Speaker 3: We need more games, Daniel. Division record. We need more
[2:32:16] Speaker 3: games so we can make more money. That's what it's about, ultimately,
[2:32:20] Speaker 3: for a bunch of badass fucking teams.
[2:32:22] Speaker 4: Listen, I'm going, the season before that, the West Coast, right?
[2:32:26] Speaker 4: The AFC, the Clippers.
[2:32:28] Speaker 3: Fuckers.
[2:32:28] Speaker 4: They were nine games away from first place.
[2:32:33] Speaker 3: A spot. Tim's spot, who gets to fight for their position,
[2:32:37] Speaker 3: was 20 games away from first. They were 11 games behind,
[2:32:43] Speaker 3: but they get to play for someone's spot. Losers.
[2:32:47] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, like.
[2:32:49] Speaker 3: We know who the winner is, but I'm allowed to gamble. Like,
[2:32:52] Speaker 3: I'm allowed to gamble with your money. Like, obviously, I'm
[2:32:54] Speaker 3: going to do it.
[2:32:55] Speaker 1: I get to gamble with your shit.
[2:32:57] Speaker 3: I just won a championship. I just won a championship
[2:33:00] Speaker 3: last year.
[2:33:01] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:33:03] Speaker 3: Why do you guys get a chance at my shot?
[2:33:05] Speaker 3: Why do you guys get a chance at my title?
[2:33:08] Speaker 1: Which teams? Any of you motherfuckers lost.
[2:33:11] Speaker 3: All of them? All y'all lost, right? Why you get
[2:33:13] Speaker 3: a second shot at my title? Huh?
[2:33:15] Speaker 1: Who get a second shot at it? You don't get
[2:33:16] Speaker 1: to play another fucking series. So we get to play
[2:33:18] Speaker 1: another season.
[2:33:19] Speaker 3: You don't get to play another series. This is another season.
[2:33:20] Speaker 3: So you're asking, no. I'm the champ. Your statement says that.
[2:33:23] Speaker 1: Why do you guys get to keep trying to beat, like.
[2:33:26] Speaker 2: Your statement, because the champions is a different champion every year.
[2:33:28] Speaker 2: That's just stupid what you're saying.
[2:33:30] Speaker 3: Exactly. So if OKC didn't go from 11 to 1,
[2:33:33] Speaker 3: if the Houston Rockets didn't go from. Where were the
[2:33:36] Speaker 3: Houston Rockets at two years ago? So they did not
[2:33:39] Speaker 3: make the playoffs. They was 13th. Now they two. They're two.
[2:33:45] Speaker 1: Now they two.
[2:33:46] Speaker 3: Two.
[2:33:46] Speaker 1: They turned it around.
[2:33:48] Speaker 3: Yes. Right. So if they had a chance to play
[2:33:50] Speaker 3: in the play-in game in between that. In between that two.
[2:33:54] Speaker 3: In between.
[2:33:54] Speaker 1: They didn't.
[2:33:55] Speaker 3: And they can beat somebody. They get in the playoffs.
[2:33:57] Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with anything. It has everything
[2:33:59] Speaker 3: to do. That's the reason it's there. It's there to
[2:34:02] Speaker 3: activate the team that think they supposed to be there.
[2:34:05] Speaker 1: You bought up a team that's 13. You got to
[2:34:06] Speaker 1: play for that. You bought up a team that's, you
[2:34:08] Speaker 1: said it was in 13th place.
[2:34:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:34:10] Speaker 1: What are you talking the fuck about here?
[2:34:12] Speaker 3: It was a joke. They're at 13th. It was a joke.
[2:34:14] Speaker 1: It's an unrealistic statement.
[2:34:16] Speaker 3: It's not an unrealistic statement. It's a joke.
[2:34:18] Speaker 1: Yes, it is at 13th, so they ain't got a
[2:34:19] Speaker 1: chance to do shit.
[2:34:19] Speaker 3: Of course it's unrealistic. They ain't got a.
[2:34:21] Speaker 2: Chance to do shit but go pick the guy that
[2:34:23] Speaker 2: they picked.
[2:34:23] Speaker 1: In the fucking lottery at 13th.
[2:34:26] Speaker 3: So, dog, listen.
[2:34:30] Speaker 4: The 2014-15 Mavs won 50 games.
[2:34:33] Speaker 1: They will be playing in the play-in game. The stupid.
[2:34:36] Speaker 1: Against a team that won 39. The stupid. It's fucking stupid.
[2:34:43] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, should the NBA have the
[2:34:46] Speaker 1: play-in tournament? 57% of the chat said no. What's so
[2:34:51] Speaker 1: funny is.
[2:34:52] Speaker 3: Is it obvious? Can you would like to know, is
[2:34:56] Speaker 3: it obvious? Is it obvious?
[2:35:01] Speaker 4: Damn, in the West, the seventh seed had a 50.
[2:35:05] Speaker 1: Can we ask the chat if it's obvious? No, please.
[2:35:07] Speaker 1: The third team in the East had 15.
[2:35:09] Speaker 2: We got shit to do.
[2:35:12] Speaker 1: It's fucking 2-15. We love being here. We are a
[2:35:14] Speaker 1: family here at Gills Arena presented by Underdog. It's only
[2:35:18] Speaker 1: the East.
[2:35:18] Speaker 4: What's so funny is the West Coast, it's a big
[2:35:21] Speaker 4: separation in the West. It's the East Coast that's the problem.
[2:35:23] Speaker 1: They fucking suck.
[2:35:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the East that's the problem.
[2:35:26] Speaker 1: The East does?
[2:35:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, the East does. To the number one seed.
[2:35:28] Speaker 1: Fucking badass, fucking badass.
[2:35:30] Speaker 3: In the West? Yes. Anywhere. Anywhere. I'm number one seed.
[2:35:33] Speaker 3: I'm playing the number eight seed. Am I playing the
[2:35:35] Speaker 3: suck team? Yes. All right. What the fuck is the
[2:35:38] Speaker 3: point of what we're talking about?
[2:35:39] Speaker 1: You're going to play the suck team anyway.
[2:35:40] Speaker 4: So what if I'm allowed to play for- What the fuck?
[2:35:42] Speaker 4: What if I'm the eighth seed, but I'm allowed to
[2:35:43] Speaker 4: play for your spot because I'm.
[2:35:45] Speaker 1: Only six games away from it?
[2:35:46] Speaker 3: It's weird. And I beat you.
[2:35:48] Speaker 1: You can play for the seven-game series.
[2:35:50] Speaker 3: What is weird is promoting losing basketball is fucking weird.
[2:35:54] Speaker 4: If I'm in the eighth seed and I'm allowed now
[2:35:58] Speaker 4: to play you for your number one seed, that's OKC's
[2:36:01] Speaker 4: been number one the whole season.
[2:36:03] Speaker 3: And the eighth seed is allowed to play one game
[2:36:06] Speaker 3: against them to try to beat them.
[2:36:09] Speaker 1: Let's say Shea takes the fucking day off.
[2:36:10] Speaker 3: And they get smacked. They deserve to be the AFC now?
[2:36:14] Speaker 1: Why did he take the day off?
[2:36:15] Speaker 3: Or out of the playoffs? I don't know. Motherfucker might
[2:36:16] Speaker 3: have hurt his ankle. That was his fault. That's a
[2:36:18] Speaker 3: bad decision. It's a dumb thing. It's a dumb decision.
[2:36:22] Speaker 3: Don't take a day off. You got a motherfucker coming
[2:36:26] Speaker 3: here and beat you. You can go home. Why the
[2:36:27] Speaker 3: fuck would you take a day off?
[2:36:29] Speaker 1: Because it's something I don't take serious.
[2:36:31] Speaker 3: Right. So you take number one. The number one seed
[2:36:34] Speaker 3: going to take the number eight seed serious, right? When
[2:36:37] Speaker 3: we start, you take us serious because we're number eight. Now,
[2:36:40] Speaker 3: what I'm saying is all the dumb, sorry-ass bum teams
[2:36:43] Speaker 3: are fighting for eight. So whoever ends up eight is
[2:36:46] Speaker 3: going to be sorry anyway is what he's saying. They
[2:36:48] Speaker 3: just suck anyway. So who the fuck is the problem.
[2:36:51] Speaker 3: Let's figure out who.
[2:36:52] Speaker 1: Sucked the most.
[2:36:55] Speaker 3: We had 82 games to figure that out. We had
[2:36:57] Speaker 3: 82 games to figure it out. Think about it.
[2:37:00] Speaker 4: How many teams, how many bad teams, 8, 7, 6,
[2:37:04] Speaker 4: have won the first game?
[2:37:06] Speaker 3: Now imagine if that was actually the elimination game.
[2:37:10] Speaker 1: History changes. It would be unfortunate. So we asked the chat,
[2:37:13] Speaker 1: is it obvious?
[2:37:15] Speaker 3: No, it's missing, man.
[2:37:17] Speaker 4: Philadelphia 76ers. Didn't they win that game one against the Lakers?
[2:37:20] Speaker 4: They lost 4-1.
[2:37:21] Speaker 3: Didn't they win the first game? They did. Game over.
[2:37:26] Speaker 1: Can't do it.
[2:37:27] Speaker 3: There's a reason there's a series now because the best team.
[2:37:30] Speaker 4: Supposed to survive. It's easy to beat one team in
[2:37:33] Speaker 4: one win. So the fact that 9 and 10 is
[2:37:35] Speaker 4: playing 7 and 8 just.
[2:37:36] Speaker 1: Makes no sense. You got 37 fucking wins. 37 wins.
[2:37:39] Speaker 1: We asked the chat, is it obvious?
[2:37:40] Speaker 3: 37 fucking wins.
[2:37:42] Speaker 1: 80% said it is. So let's move on to mostly fans.
[2:37:45] Speaker 3: We don't even know what it means.
[2:37:47] Speaker 1: I have no idea. You never know what's obvious.
[2:37:50] Speaker 3: You never know. It is obvious. Because the creator created it,
[2:37:54] Speaker 3: so it is whatever I say it is. Is it
[2:38:00] Speaker 3: fucking obvious? Liam and Berm said.
[2:38:06] Speaker 1: Two white men, wow. Get the fuck out of here.
[2:38:07] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[2:38:08] Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. We ain't doing this shit.
[2:38:10] Speaker 3: We got ten tickets, so that means 80 of y'all
[2:38:12] Speaker 3: fuck off. Ten? Ten.
[2:38:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. That ain't enough.
[2:38:16] Speaker 3: No, it's enough. That ain't enough. Only real true.
[2:38:19] Speaker 1: It's only two of us, really.
[2:38:20] Speaker 3: I thought it was underdog. Yeah, so we got 10
[2:38:23] Speaker 3: tickets to all the Laker games.
[2:38:25] Speaker 1: Wait, all of them? I didn't know that. I didn't
[2:38:27] Speaker 1: hear that part of it. That's a little bit different.
[2:38:29] Speaker 1: You got to relax. A singular game.
[2:38:34] Speaker 3: I scout mine.
[2:38:35] Speaker 1: Can you?
[2:38:36] Speaker 3: Please, though.
[2:38:37] Speaker 1: Did I say that out loud?
[2:38:38] Speaker 3: Oh, man.
[2:38:39] Speaker 1: Actually, we don't need that energy in the suite.
[2:38:41] Speaker 3: I'm sorry, chat.
[2:38:42] Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the game on Move Around TV. Shit,
[2:38:45] Speaker 1: fuck it. So we got one question from Underdog User
[2:38:49] Speaker 1: Soul Fresh. P-H-R-E-S-H. Soul Fresh. Why don't we see more
[2:38:56] Speaker 1: offensive innovation from coaches? Copycat League.
[2:39:00] Speaker 3: It is a Copycat League.
[2:39:02] Speaker 1: Simple. Simple. So if they see something that works. Hey,
[2:39:08] Speaker 1: shoot a bunch of threes. Shoot a bunch of threes, shit,
[2:39:10] Speaker 1: they shooting a bunch. It worked for that team. Like,
[2:39:14] Speaker 1: we ain't got the same players.
[2:39:17] Speaker 3: Like, we don't, like, IQ different, talent level different, skill,
[2:39:22] Speaker 3: it's just, we don't, like, all, it's a copycat league, man.
[2:39:29] Speaker 2: Just, fuck, simple. Playing goddamn simple, right? Somebody drafted a
[2:39:35] Speaker 2: big to try to stop Shaq, and motherfucker, like, Everybody
[2:39:39] Speaker 2: drive big. Steph starts shooting that bitch. It's just copycat league, man.
[2:39:45] Speaker 1: They literally made it analytics off of.
[2:39:54] Speaker 3: Curry, Klay, and KD.
[2:40:01] Speaker 1: Because they shot 25 to 33s.
[2:40:05] Speaker 3: These are two or three of the best shooters in
[2:40:09] Speaker 3: the NBA. Two of them is calling history.
[2:40:14] Speaker 4: I mean, there's 5,000 players that ever played. These are
[2:40:19] Speaker 4: two of them can argue top two, top three. KD
[2:40:24] Speaker 4: can argue top ten. And you decided, you think them
[2:40:27] Speaker 4: sorry motherfuckers on your team that's taking five threes a game,
[2:40:32] Speaker 4: five threes in practice, think they can just shoot 14
[2:40:35] Speaker 4: threes a game?
[2:40:36] Speaker 1: And you're about to have.
[2:40:37] Speaker 3: Success with that? That is, that is the, that's like.
[2:40:43] Speaker 4: That's like doing an algorithm of mid-range off of Michael
[2:40:45] Speaker 4: Jordan and Kobe. Like, yeah, you see Michael Jordan's doing
[2:40:48] Speaker 4: from the mid-range and Kobe doing from the mid-range.
[2:40:51] Speaker 3: What about you do it?
[2:40:54] Speaker 4: Bitch, y'all about to go 32% from the goddamn field.
[2:40:57] Speaker 1: This is the dumbest shit ever.
[2:40:58] Speaker 3: But they see.
[2:41:00] Speaker 4: Somebody else have success, they want to jump on the bandwagon.
[2:41:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, they just change, like, it's the same plays. They
[2:41:06] Speaker 2: just change the name of the motherfuckers.
[2:41:10] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:41:12] Speaker 2: Instead of a 77 double drag, they might 66 or
[2:41:16] Speaker 2: some shit like this.
[2:41:17] Speaker 1: 25 double drag.
[2:41:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:41:18] Speaker 1: Because you're number 25. So, yeah, whatever, it just.
[2:41:23] Speaker 1: Same shit, man.
[2:41:23] Speaker 2: They want to run the pinch post. Instead of calling
[2:41:26] Speaker 2: it sack, they call it jersey.
[2:41:30] Speaker 1: Whatever. It's the same thing, man.
[2:41:32] Speaker 3: KYP.
[2:41:33] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:41:35] Speaker 3: KYP, know your personnel. Coach your team, man. Coach your team.
[2:41:40] Speaker 3: You walk in there every single day. You know who
[2:41:43] Speaker 3: can and who cannot do what. You watch them practice
[2:41:47] Speaker 3: every single day. You know the position that you should
[2:41:50] Speaker 3: know the position that you should put your team in
[2:41:52] Speaker 3: to be successful.
[2:41:53] Speaker 1: You should know those things.
[2:41:55] Speaker 3: Imagine AI team that went to the finals and they
[2:41:58] Speaker 3: got to shoot 43's a game.
[2:42:05] Speaker 1: On that note, a productive day here.
[2:42:07] Speaker 3: AI going to be so fucking pissed off. Aaron McKee
[2:42:11] Speaker 3: out there. Eric Snow out there. Chucking the motherfucking three.
[2:42:14] Speaker 3: You have a message for the people before we depart?
[2:42:16] Speaker 1: Well, just want to talk about that coaching shit.
[2:42:18] Speaker 3: Luca?
[2:42:19] Speaker 1: I thought he said Luca.
[2:42:24] Speaker 3: Coaches coaches are afraid of the innovation because they don't
[2:42:29] Speaker 3: have no imagination like we talk about the game and
[2:42:33] Speaker 3: you talk about getting people open you talk about studying
[2:42:35] Speaker 3: the game you talk about drawing a play.
[2:42:37] Speaker 1: Up from scratch.
[2:42:40] Speaker 3: Execution preparation attention to detail all these small things like
[2:42:45] Speaker 3: i like to talk hoop so becoming a coach or
[2:42:49] Speaker 3: being a consultant or advisor for young players or teach
[2:42:54] Speaker 3: them how to play the game the right way is
[2:42:56] Speaker 3: important um so coaches need to definitely open up their
[2:43:01] Speaker 3: eyes and be more imagine imaginative with exploring different things
[2:43:08] Speaker 3: offensively to get guys open and stop just being a
[2:43:11] Speaker 3: copycat league thinking everybody should just shoot threes experiment try
[2:43:16] Speaker 3: to get this new shit going if you're gonna change
[2:43:18] Speaker 3: the fucking game change the fucking game please Because this
[2:43:21] Speaker 3: shit right now, we in a void, and we need
[2:43:24] Speaker 3: to do something.
[2:43:26] Speaker 1: On that note, appreciate everybody in the chat for rocking
[2:43:28] Speaker 1: with us. Gil, appreciate you for sobering up for the
[2:43:31] Speaker 1: end of the show. It was a very productive day.
[2:43:32] Speaker 1: I'm not sober. Not even close.
[2:43:35] Speaker 3: Well, hey.
[2:43:36] Speaker 1: I'm going to just be honest with you. The shot
[2:43:37] Speaker 1: took him over the top.
[2:43:38] Speaker 4: I'm going to just be honest with you, fam. For
[2:43:40] Speaker 4: us who's going to be winning the championship, you are
[2:43:41] Speaker 4: disloyal today.
[2:43:42] Speaker 3: 2-2-2. You know it's Luka Day, man. Can I still
[2:43:46] Speaker 3: get my ticket?
[2:43:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to give you the ticket. It's Luka
[2:43:48] Speaker 1: Day tomorrow.
[2:43:49] Speaker 3: He's going back to Dallas. We're saving that energy, Gil.
[2:43:54] Speaker 3: Saving the energy for it. Oh, I'm glad I'm not
[2:43:56] Speaker 3: here tomorrow. We are bringing you to the show. We
[2:43:59] Speaker 3: are sending a card to you, how you can bring
[2:44:01] Speaker 3: Jack in. I'm celebrating the rest of the year, man.
[2:44:05] Speaker 1: God is good. We appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate
[2:44:08] Speaker 1: all y'all in the chat. NBA season?
[2:44:09] Speaker 3: Huh?
[2:44:10] Speaker 1: NBA season?
[2:44:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, celebrate. We won.
[2:44:13] Speaker 1: Y'all won. Shout out to Underdog for the Lakers. That
[2:44:15] Speaker 1: includes the finals. Thank you very much. Ten tickets every day.
[2:44:18] Speaker 1: How do you think Donahue will come back and coach?
[2:44:20] Speaker 3: Donahue.
[2:44:21] Speaker 1: We can put a call out there. We do have technology.
[2:44:24] Speaker 1: We're off what? The series.
[2:44:26] Speaker 3: What's up, Mom?
[2:44:28] Speaker 1: Hi, Aria. Raylan.
[2:44:32] Speaker 3: Ray, Ray.
[2:44:34] Speaker 1: You know they're Laker fans, right?
[2:44:36] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. They will be. This has been another episode of
[2:44:39] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow.

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