# Cooper Flagg LOCKED UP Rookie of the Year

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 8 Apr 2026, 2 h 09 min.

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Giannis Antetokounmpo & The Milwaukee Buck's MESSY Divorce SETS OFF Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Giannis sparking an investigation into the Milwaukee Bucks franchise after publically slamming the team for not playing him despite being healthy and debate if this messy situation means the end of the Greek Freak era for the Bucks. Next, they break down the Houston Rockets hot streak as Kevin Durant & The Kets have ripped off 7 wins in a row to vault themselves up the Western Conference standings heading into the NBA Playoffs and debate if the Rockets are finally clicking at the right time. They also react to Kevin Durant making Dillon Brooks look silly after the NBA villain poked the bear once again before reacting to Cooper Flagg ending the debate for the NBA's rookie of the year as the Dallas Mavericks' young superstar made history with back to back 40 point games including a 50 burger to spring himself over Kon Knueppel as the league's best rookie. PLEASE give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! VOTE THE ARENA FOR BEST SPORTS PODCAST - https://shortyawards.com/vote/ Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, & Skip Bayless Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:46 Rockets Win 7 Straight 0:05:47 KD Makes Dillon Brooks Look Silly 0:35:02 Giannis & The Bucks' Messy Divorce 1:05:25 Cooper Flagg Steals The Rookie Of The Year 1:52:25 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop.
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[0:13] Speaker 1: We got a legendary couch here. We're going to say
[0:15] Speaker 1: how everybody feeling. Good. Good.
[0:18] Speaker 2: That's free.
[0:19] Speaker 1: I was about to say, Gil is elated today. I
[0:22] Speaker 1: can tell you that.
[0:24] Speaker 3: He kick back and he like. I might just start
[0:29] Speaker 3: one just because.
[0:30] Speaker 1: Right? I'm still waiting on them to tell me who
[0:34] Speaker 1: they is.
[0:34] Speaker 4: No, that's true.
[0:35] Speaker 5: I saw that. Good to be on this side of
[0:37] Speaker 5: the couch because I got the enforcer next to me
[0:40] Speaker 5: to protect me from you.
[0:41] Speaker 4: Me?
[0:41] Speaker 6: No, no, no.
[0:42] Speaker 4: He ain't here.
[0:43] Speaker 1: We're arguing. We're going to argue about something today. I'm not.
[0:46] Speaker 2: We're going to argue about something.
[0:48] Speaker 1: We got something to argue about. Something. But this is
[0:52] Speaker 1: Gills Arena presented by Underdog. I'm your host, Josiah Johnson.
[0:56] Speaker 1: We got NBA legend, ARC Raiders, most wanted, Gilbert Arenas
[0:59] Speaker 1: back here with us.
[1:00] Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
[1:01] Speaker 1: What's the bounty?
[1:02] Speaker 2: Is that too many?
[1:03] Speaker 1: Nah, they stopped at five.
[1:05] Speaker 4: Can they collect? They can't afford it.
[1:10] Speaker 1: On this side of the couch, representing Tough Crowd, card-carrying
[1:12] Speaker 1: country club member, we got former Milwaukee Buck, Mr. B,
[1:15] Speaker 1: Brandon Janney. Talk to your crew over there. They are
[1:19] Speaker 1: a little chaotic right now. They're very messy. Man, season over. Okay.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Might just be beginning. That shit over. On that side
[1:27] Speaker 1: of town. Man, listen, boy, that implode. starting Doc. Titan submarine.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Hate to do it to him, but... He want to
[1:37] Speaker 1: spend more time with his grandkids. They going to be
[1:40] Speaker 1: paying three head coaches. That's a damn shame. On this
[1:43] Speaker 1: side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from
[1:45] Speaker 1: Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin. Last but
[1:52] Speaker 1: not least, one of the biggest legends in the sports
[1:54] Speaker 1: media game, Skip Bayless. Back in Gills Arena. Good foot, too.
[2:03] Speaker 1: Good foot on over here.
[2:06] Speaker 5: What size shoe you wear?
[2:09] Speaker 2: 11.
[2:09] Speaker 5: 11 from heaven.
[2:14] Speaker 1: You are safe in this room. We are a big foot.
[2:17] Speaker 1: But we got a lot to discuss.
[2:20] Speaker 2: 14 and up, baby.
[2:21] Speaker 1: The best ones was being 11 and a half or
[2:23] Speaker 1: 12 and a.
[2:24] Speaker 4: Half back in the day.
[2:24] Speaker 1: I'm a 12 and a half. That's what I did.
[2:28] Speaker 1: That would be the last size they have at Foot Locker.
[2:31] Speaker 1: That's when y'all come to learn.
[2:31] Speaker 4: No, those are the only ones they had left. No, no,
[2:34] Speaker 4: those are the only ones they had left was the half,
[2:35] Speaker 4: the 12 and a half.
[2:38] Speaker 1: And then they cut that out.
[2:40] Speaker 7: Okay.
[2:40] Speaker 1: We got a lot to discuss. Yeah, the half sizes
[2:43] Speaker 1: are ideal. 13 and a half. We got a lot
[2:48] Speaker 1: to discuss. Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today. The
[2:52] Speaker 1: Rockets have won seven straight games. We're on the verge
[2:54] Speaker 1: of taking over the fourth seed, potentially the third seed
[2:57] Speaker 1: if the Nuggets trick it off. But is Houston for
[2:59] Speaker 1: real or Fugazi? The NBA is investigating the Bucs for
[3:04] Speaker 1: keeping Giannis sidelined despite him saying he's ready to play.
[3:07] Speaker 1: We break down the messy situation going down in Milwaukee.
[3:11] Speaker 1: And Cooper Flagg came through with an historic scoring weekend.
[3:14] Speaker 1: The flag lock up the rookie of the year. Before
[3:17] Speaker 1: we get into all that, as always, this show is
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[3:57] Speaker 1: your podcasts. So Rockets and Suns met Tuesday for the
[4:01] Speaker 1: final time in the regular season. It was KD's first
[4:03] Speaker 1: time back playing in Phoenix since the Blockbuster trade last
[4:07] Speaker 1: summer that sent him to the Rockets. Jalen Green's first
[4:09] Speaker 1: time playing against his former team. Things got chippy in
[4:12] Speaker 1: this one. Both teams fighting for playoff position in the
[4:15] Speaker 1: final week of the season. Let's take a look at
[4:17] Speaker 1: the highlights if we can, please. My good man, Ian.
[4:21] Speaker 1: Suns came out on fire in the first quarter. They
[4:25] Speaker 1: put up 37 points, including a 24-0 run led by
[4:28] Speaker 1: as much as 21 points in the quarter. 16 after
[4:35] Speaker 1: the first frame, though. The Rockets started to mount a comeback.
[4:38] Speaker 1: Rockets bounced back in the second quarter, cutting the deficit
[4:41] Speaker 1: to three by halftime. KD and Dylan Brooks had some
[4:46] Speaker 1: shenanigans going on. We will discuss that more in depth
[4:48] Speaker 1: in just a little bit. Houston had seven players score
[4:52] Speaker 1: in double figures in the game. Eamon Thompson stuffed the
[4:54] Speaker 1: stat sheet. 22 points, 11 rebounds, 8 assists, and 3 steals.
[4:58] Speaker 1: Taking his matchup with Jalen Green personally, KD finished with
[5:01] Speaker 1: 24 points on 8 of 20 shooting. He was 5
[5:03] Speaker 1: for 9 from 3. And like I mentioned, him and
[5:06] Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks got into it, but he was unfazed by that.
[5:09] Speaker 1: Jabari Smith had 20, and Alperin Changun had 12 points,
[5:12] Speaker 1: 14 boards.
[5:12] Speaker 4: Fuck, man.
[5:14] Speaker 1: In six assists, Devin Booker led the Suns with 31
[5:16] Speaker 1: points while Jalen Green added 15 on 5 of 14 shooting.
[5:21] Speaker 1: Brooks Trash Talk didn't work in this one. He finished
[5:24] Speaker 1: with 10 points on 3 of 12 shooting. He was
[5:25] Speaker 1: one for seven from three.
[5:28] Speaker 6: You see it.
[5:29] Speaker 1: So Houston outscored Phoenix 65 to 48 in the second
[5:33] Speaker 1: half as the Suns cooled off in the final three
[5:35] Speaker 1: quarters after their hot start. So with the loss, the
[5:38] Speaker 1: Suns are now locked in the play-in. Currently seventh at
[5:42] Speaker 1: the Clippers. keep doing what they're doing, they could potentially
[5:44] Speaker 1: push them down to the A spot. While the Rockets
[5:47] Speaker 1: have won seven straight games, now tied with the Lakers
[5:50] Speaker 1: for the fourth spot in the West with three games remaining.
[5:53] Speaker 5: L.A.
[5:53] Speaker 1: Still holds a tiebreaker, but based on how things are
[5:55] Speaker 1: looking out there, they're not going to have enough wins
[5:59] Speaker 1: to get it done. But Gil, we'll start with you.
[6:00] Speaker 1: What are your biggest takeaways from the Rockets' win over
[6:03] Speaker 1: the Suns?
[6:07] Speaker 4: You know, when the season first started, we thought with
[6:13] Speaker 4: adding KD and what they did last year, that this
[6:15] Speaker 4: team would be competing at one or two, right? And
[6:20] Speaker 4: it seemed like that they really did need a point guard.
[6:26] Speaker 1: They're a point guard.
[6:28] Speaker 4: That can shoot the ball and get everybody in position.
[6:32] Speaker 4: Where they struggle at is they're very athletic. They get
[6:35] Speaker 4: out in the open. They're very good in the open.
[6:38] Speaker 4: When you put them in half court and make the
[6:42] Speaker 4: other guys... make decisions, that's where it gets a little murky,
[6:46] Speaker 4: and when you're talking about playing playoff basketball, you have
[6:52] Speaker 4: to be dialed in, and yes, they won seven games straight,
[6:57] Speaker 4: but are they dialed in to winning series and series
[7:02] Speaker 4: to go to that ship and compete for a championship?
[7:05] Speaker 4: I don't know, because it seems like if you can
[7:09] Speaker 4: contain KD and make KD take under 20 shots, and
[7:16] Speaker 4: it's just Sangoon playing one-on-one and everybody else shooting from
[7:19] Speaker 4: the outside, even though they got them 6'10, and they're
[7:21] Speaker 4: not attacking that basket, they will struggle, right? So, you know,
[7:27] Speaker 4: they're a good team. They're a dangerous team, but will
[7:30] Speaker 4: they find the rhythm that they need to push in
[7:35] Speaker 4: the playoffs when they're going against the OKC, when they're
[7:38] Speaker 4: going against Denver Nuggets? when they're going against even the Spurs, right?
[7:48] Speaker 4: You know, those teams will have the advantage over them,
[7:54] Speaker 4: so they're going to have to play great basketball and
[7:57] Speaker 4: be careful of what they're doing.
[8:00] Speaker 1: You look at that seven-game win streak, not necessarily against
[8:02] Speaker 1: the best that the NBA has to offer, a lot
[8:05] Speaker 1: of fluff in there, but Mr. B, you look at
[8:06] Speaker 1: this Rockets team, are they clicking at the right time or?
[8:10] Speaker 6: I mean, they're winning the games they're supposed to win,
[8:12] Speaker 6: but I think they're cooked. I mean, I've seen it.
[8:16] Speaker 6: I think they've been overrated the whole year. I said
[8:19] Speaker 6: it before. Last year, I felt like they were better.
[8:22] Speaker 6: They just gave up on their two. They gave up
[8:24] Speaker 6: on Jalen, and they gave up on Dylan Brooks, who
[8:27] Speaker 6: are having good years over there this year with the Suns.
[8:32] Speaker 6: But they struggled on the half court. They turned the
[8:34] Speaker 6: ball over. They started off. They were down 26-5. I mean, yeah,
[8:39] Speaker 6: they went on a seven-game win streak, but they played
[8:42] Speaker 6: against teams like Utah, Milwaukee, Grizzlies, the Bucs.
[8:48] Speaker 1: I don't know if they played them, but you just
[8:50] Speaker 1: told them. Yeah, they did.
[8:51] Speaker 6: But, I mean, the only real win I'll give them
[8:53] Speaker 6: is that Knicks one. So, for me, it's just, yeah,
[8:57] Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if they match up with the Lakers,
[8:59] Speaker 6: they better hope.
[9:00] Speaker 1: Luka and A.R.
[9:01] Speaker 6: Aren't playing because I don't see them getting past the
[9:04] Speaker 6: Lakers because they turn over the ball too much in
[9:06] Speaker 6: half court.
[9:07] Speaker 1: So, I don't know.
[9:08] Speaker 6: We'll see what happens.
[9:09] Speaker 1: It feels good to hear you say that.
[9:12] Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
[9:13] Speaker 1: I don't think you've seen the Lakers in half credit.
[9:16] Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's better than that. I'll take my chance
[9:20] Speaker 6: over that.
[9:20] Speaker 1: All right, let's shift over to this side of the couch. Kenyon,
[9:23] Speaker 1: you've seen this Rocket squad. We've been watching them all year.
[9:26] Speaker 1: They're struggling in clutch, struggling without having a true point guard.
[9:30] Speaker 1: Reed Shepard has kind of tried to fill that void.
[9:31] Speaker 1: I think he started the last four or five games.
[9:34] Speaker 1: Been playing solid, but Yeah, this Rockets team is for
[9:38] Speaker 1: real or Fugazi?
[9:43] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[9:46] Speaker 1: One day they look like they can compete, and the
[9:48] Speaker 1: next day they look like they don't know how to
[9:51] Speaker 1: play basketball at times without KD being out there. You
[9:54] Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
[9:58] Speaker 3: I think they've played a long season and for the
[10:00] Speaker 3: jury to still be out is not a good thing.
[10:05] Speaker 3: The fact that to Gil's point, they don't make shots.
[10:10] Speaker 3: Reese Shepard can make shots, but he's not the point
[10:12] Speaker 3: guard that you need to get people involved. He's looking
[10:16] Speaker 3: for his shot first. Sort of a liability on defense,
[10:21] Speaker 3: but try to neutralize that by making shots. Yeah, their
[10:29] Speaker 3: success is definitely reliant on KD having KD Knights 27
[10:37] Speaker 3: to 35 and Sangoon putting numbers on the board. If
[10:42] Speaker 3: they're doing that, they're tough to beat. With Thompson going
[10:45] Speaker 3: downhill and Jabari making jump shots, if they're doing that,
[10:49] Speaker 3: they're tough to beat. But that's where it gets tricky
[10:55] Speaker 3: after that. You got solid players, but in this league,
[10:59] Speaker 3: you have to be able to make shots.
[11:00] Speaker 6: We know that.
[11:01] Speaker 3: And they don't have shot makers coming off the bench
[11:04] Speaker 3: in case guys start a lineup and not.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Getting it done.
[11:09] Speaker 3: Whoever they match up with in the first round is
[11:12] Speaker 3: going to be a Difficult time because of game planning,
[11:15] Speaker 3: but they will make them shoot. They will make the
[11:18] Speaker 3: ball find certain guys.
[11:22] Speaker 2: Are they capable? Yeah, are they capable in the series?
[11:24] Speaker 3: I think it just depends on who they match up
[11:25] Speaker 3: with depends on if KD is Game planning with him
[11:30] Speaker 3: right depends on how they go. So I think Gil
[11:33] Speaker 3: said something that was Key if they keep him 15
[11:37] Speaker 3: to 20 shots. I by doubling him and making him
[11:41] Speaker 3: uncomfortable and making him a passer, it's going to be tough.
[11:46] Speaker 3: So it's going to be tough, but.
[11:50] Speaker 2: Don't know.
[11:51] Speaker 1: Really don't know. Listen, some days it looks more promising.
[11:54] Speaker 1: Other days, I really like it. Well, last one, but
[11:58] Speaker 1: a little shift over to Skip. Skip, when you look
[12:01] Speaker 1: at this Rocket squad, do you feel like the Rockets
[12:03] Speaker 1: for real or the Rockets fugazi?
[12:07] Speaker 5: This Rocket squad is real enough that if it winds
[12:11] Speaker 5: up in a 4-5 with the Lakers, even if the
[12:14] Speaker 5: Lakers have Luka and have AR and have LeBron, who
[12:18] Speaker 5: was out with a foot injury, I think he just said,
[12:22] Speaker 5: I can't do this. But if the Lakers are whole,
[12:29] Speaker 5: that's true. If the Lakers are whole, the Rockets will
[12:33] Speaker 5: still beat the Lakers because the Rockets have found themselves
[12:37] Speaker 5: their best version of themselves lately. And I root for them,
[12:44] Speaker 5: not because of Kevin Durant, but because of that coach.
[12:47] Speaker 5: I just love this coach. Ime is my kind of
[12:50] Speaker 5: coach because he's your kind of guy. And this team
[12:53] Speaker 5: has some of you in it because what it does
[12:56] Speaker 5: do better than anybody in this league is it will
[13:00] Speaker 5: just kick your ass on the backboards every single night,
[13:04] Speaker 5: especially the offensive glass. They destroyed Phoenix on the glass
[13:09] Speaker 5: last night. It was 55-34.
[13:13] Speaker 2: Rebounds.
[13:14] Speaker 5: And offensive rebounds were 24-10. So they are just crashing
[13:19] Speaker 5: the glass. And allow me to say amen to Amin
[13:24] Speaker 5: Thompson because he has grown up before your very eyes.
[13:28] Speaker 5: He is a problem for everybody on both ends of
[13:31] Speaker 5: the floor. On just sheer energy on defense and crashing glass.
[13:36] Speaker 5: and driving on the offensive end. And the other weird
[13:41] Speaker 5: thing about them, as Gil pointed out, obviously they've been
[13:45] Speaker 5: adrift without their leader and their point guard the whole year,
[13:48] Speaker 5: but the last seven games, I'm seeing the center become
[13:53] Speaker 5: their joker of a point guard. And what did Kevin
[13:56] Speaker 5: say in his stand-up interview on court right after the
[13:59] Speaker 5: game last night in Phoenix? He said, we just fed
[14:04] Speaker 5: off Alpey in the fourth quarter. And I'm like, You did?
[14:07] Speaker 5: And I'm looking, and Shingun is now the point center
[14:12] Speaker 5: of this team. So the offense is going through Shingun,
[14:16] Speaker 5: and he's leading them in assists. He's six a game.
[14:20] Speaker 5: I know it's not 10 a game, but he is
[14:22] Speaker 5: leading this team in assists, and they've found their best
[14:26] Speaker 5: version of themselves with him initiating every offensive possession. The
[14:32] Speaker 5: ball goes to him first, and he kicks it, or
[14:34] Speaker 5: he drives it and kicks it, And that's the best
[14:39] Speaker 5: they can be. So do I think they could beat
[14:42] Speaker 5: the Lakers in a 4-5? I definitely do. Can they
[14:45] Speaker 5: beat the Thunder in the semifinals of the Western Conference?
[14:48] Speaker 5: They obviously have zero chance with Kevin going home to
[14:52] Speaker 5: Oklahoma City.
[14:53] Speaker 4: No chance.
[14:54] Speaker 5: Hmm.
[14:56] Speaker 1: Y'all agree? Zero percent chance? What, to beat OKC if
[14:59] Speaker 1: they match up?
[15:01] Speaker 6: I think they have a chance to beat the Lakers, though.
[15:03] Speaker 6: I mean, no, the Lakers have a chance to beat Houston.
[15:06] Speaker 1: With Luka.
[15:08] Speaker 2: They got to be healthy.
[15:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, I'm saying if they're healthy. If they're healthy.
[15:12] Speaker 1: But if not, then, you know. And Houston would need
[15:15] Speaker 1: a lot of help from the Nuggets. They could potentially
[15:17] Speaker 1: jump even to that third spot. I think they'd have
[15:18] Speaker 1: to win all three games and the Nuggets have to
[15:20] Speaker 1: go like one and two.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Who has to win?
[15:22] Speaker 1: The Rockets would have to win out and the Nuggets
[15:24] Speaker 1: have to go one and two. Nuggets do have games
[15:25] Speaker 1: against the Spurs and Thunder.
[15:29] Speaker 4: You know this is the playoffs. So, matchups is the
[15:32] Speaker 4: most important part. There's no way Houston... We'll try to
[15:36] Speaker 4: jump to three. If they have the Lakers, that hurts.
[15:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, 4-5.
[15:43] Speaker 1: 4-5.
[15:44] Speaker 2: You also have the Timberwolves. I'm definitely trying to.
[15:46] Speaker 4: This is a damaged team where two stars is gone.
[15:49] Speaker 6: I'm not trying to see Jokic.
[15:50] Speaker 1: And one is 40.
[15:52] Speaker 4: And the rest of the bench is a G League team.
[15:54] Speaker 6: I understand.
[15:55] Speaker 4: I am not trying to jump to three. I'm going
[15:57] Speaker 4: to say exactly four or five.
[15:59] Speaker 1: To them? To the Wolves dealing with it. Four or five.
[16:02] Speaker 6: Unless them stems come back. Unless them stems on the.
[16:04] Speaker 1: Gs come back.
[16:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, you still got the rest of the, like, Timberwolves
[16:09] Speaker 4: bench squad is better than our whole team.
[16:12] Speaker 1: They got guys who can put the ball in the basket.
[16:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, they got a legitimate six.
[16:17] Speaker 4: Our best player right now that I trust is Luke Kennard.
[16:23] Speaker 3: I'm not even going to lie. Well, outside of LeBron. Yeah,
[16:27] Speaker 3: I mean, outside of LeBron. Because he's going to play. Now,
[16:31] Speaker 3: I figure he'll do it. He's healthy.
[16:32] Speaker 1: He just set out because there was no need for.
[16:35] Speaker 2: Him to play.
[16:36] Speaker 3: Go out and get embarrassed like that? Y'all already got
[16:40] Speaker 3: me the worst loss of my career on the record.
[16:43] Speaker 1: We not finna do this shit twice.
[16:45] Speaker 6: I'm not finna go out there.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[16:46] Speaker 6: You ain't finna have me out.
[16:47] Speaker 1: Not finna do this shit twice in two weeks. Put
[16:48] Speaker 1: me out there.
[16:49] Speaker 2: Not finna do this. Twice in a week, actually.
[16:51] Speaker 1: Twice in less than a week.
[16:52] Speaker 2: We not finna do this.
[16:54] Speaker 6: On Taco Tuesday.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Come on, man. We ain't finna do that. We ain't
[16:57] Speaker 1: finna do that, dog.
[16:58] Speaker 3: Go drink me some Lobos and have me some tacos, man.
[17:02] Speaker 6: Go play some in my golf simulator.
[17:04] Speaker 4: Even though Kevin Durant averages about 20 shots a game,
[17:07] Speaker 4: the difference is he doesn't have two studs that he
[17:11] Speaker 4: used to have with him.
[17:12] Speaker 1: Where.
[17:13] Speaker 4: You didn't have to double, KD. You couldn't double KD.
[17:16] Speaker 2: You couldn't.
[17:17] Speaker 4: You couldn't, right? Russell James, right, you're talking about. Kyrie James.
[17:22] Speaker 4: Kyrie James. You couldn't get Booker. You couldn't do anything
[17:26] Speaker 4: with him.
[17:27] Speaker 1: Now you have a handicap, and the handicap is the shooting.
[17:30] Speaker 2: Yes, because they have to play the money.
[17:32] Speaker 4: Like even Sangoon, you're not Jokic because you can't shoot
[17:37] Speaker 4: from the outside. We know where you want to go.
[17:40] Speaker 4: You want to do, you want to get in and
[17:41] Speaker 4: try to get, you're going to pump fake.
[17:43] Speaker 6: Don't jump.
[17:44] Speaker 4: Nobody needs to jump. No one needs to go for
[17:46] Speaker 4: the pump fake. You're going to pump fake to try
[17:48] Speaker 4: to go and do all your things to get in. Like,
[17:51] Speaker 4: so you are limited. So when Sangoon's the point guard,
[17:56] Speaker 4: treat him how you would have treated Russell Westbrook, Rondo,
[17:59] Speaker 4: Ben Simmons. If you're going to beat us, you shoot
[18:03] Speaker 4: 10 threes. If you make three, I'll think about guarding you.
[18:07] Speaker 4: If you're not going 50%, I'm not, I'm not going
[18:09] Speaker 4: in there.
[18:10] Speaker 1: Just do you.
[18:11] Speaker 4: And we're just going to sit back. We're not going
[18:13] Speaker 4: to let you do no back. Shoot the three. We
[18:16] Speaker 4: just shoot the three.
[18:19] Speaker 1: Do it.
[18:20] Speaker 4: That's not his game yet. That's the problem with Jokic
[18:23] Speaker 4: and Embiid. That's their beauty. Where they can shoot that
[18:28] Speaker 4: shot at a very high clip. So you are forced
[18:30] Speaker 4: as the big man to go there where they get
[18:33] Speaker 4: the drive and then use that.
[18:34] Speaker 1: Advantage against them.
[18:35] Speaker 4: So that's where he's going to have to improve to
[18:38] Speaker 4: really be an all-around threat.
[18:41] Speaker 1: So what version of Kevin Durant do you guys think
[18:43] Speaker 1: that the Rockets need in the postseason for them to
[18:46] Speaker 1: be successful?
[18:47] Speaker 6: Not him.
[18:48] Speaker 1: It's not really him. It ain't him, man. His 25,
[18:51] Speaker 1: his 27 is what it is.
[18:52] Speaker 8: Because they're going to double him.
[18:55] Speaker 1: His 27 is what it is, man. So what do
[18:58] Speaker 1: you need to get to?
[18:59] Speaker 2: 35?
[18:59] Speaker 6: I mean, maybe.
[19:00] Speaker 2: No, it ain't on him.
[19:02] Speaker 1: But he's playing with a 54-90 right now.
[19:03] Speaker 6: So his 27 is enough.
[19:08] Speaker 2: They just got other people.
[19:10] Speaker 6: I mean, we're going to need some 30s, though.
[19:12] Speaker 2: Of course, he's going to give you that.
[19:13] Speaker 1: He's going to give you that. Anything from 27 to 35,
[19:18] Speaker 1: it's amen.
[19:21] Speaker 4: Amen is going to have to dominate.
[19:24] Speaker 1: It's amen that's going to have to, like, you're.
[19:26] Speaker 4: Going to have to lock down and you're going to
[19:30] Speaker 4: have to be very productive on the offensive end. Or
[19:33] Speaker 4: Jabari Smith, right? One of you two are going to
[19:36] Speaker 4: have to really be Great.
[19:39] Speaker 3: I think it's made for Thompson to, Ava and Thompson
[19:42] Speaker 3: to dominate because of how he, just.
[19:44] Speaker 1: Downhill, man.
[19:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, if he gets downhill.
[19:46] Speaker 3: You're downhill, man, and you're attacking guys, man, game after game.
[19:50] Speaker 3: after game, possession after possession.
[19:54] Speaker 2: No, that's... They get tired.
[19:55] Speaker 1: They don't want that. Like, if you had a jump shot, bro.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want that.
[19:58] Speaker 1: Like, think about if he had a jump shot. Yeah,
[20:00] Speaker 1: they don't want to have to guard that, man.
[20:02] Speaker 6: Do you run it back with this team if they
[20:04] Speaker 6: can't get out the second round?
[20:06] Speaker 1: I'm saying Fred, not Fred not being to hurt them, dog. What?
[20:09] Speaker 2: Like, Fred not being there hurt them. But that's the point, too.
[20:13] Speaker 1: Do you give KD some grace with this squad not
[20:15] Speaker 1: going to finish with a better record than they did
[20:17] Speaker 1: last season or not going to finish with a higher
[20:19] Speaker 1: seating than they did last season but didn't have their
[20:21] Speaker 1: point guard all year long but obviously had time to
[20:23] Speaker 1: address that and had some roster issues that kind of
[20:26] Speaker 1: limited their ability to bring another point guard onto the roster.
[20:29] Speaker 2: That's when you got to be creative, man. You got
[20:30] Speaker 2: to do your job. As a GM, as a president,
[20:33] Speaker 2: y'all have to come to the collective mind.
[20:35] Speaker 6: I mean, they had chances to go get another point guard.
[20:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, but they couldn't do it until after December 15th. Cool, cool.
[20:41] Speaker 1: They were holding the fort down. They would have to
[20:43] Speaker 1: make some trades, and I think they just decided to
[20:45] Speaker 1: roll with it. Yeah, they was holding the fort down
[20:46] Speaker 1: until December 15th. Then you should have had a plan
[20:50] Speaker 1: when December 15th hit.
[20:53] Speaker 6: To get something.
[20:54] Speaker 2: We got to get something, right? This is our date.
[20:58] Speaker 3: We know we can't move before that, but we need
[20:59] Speaker 3: a plan in place so when December 15th happened, we
[21:03] Speaker 3: make this move because we see what this could possibly.
[21:07] Speaker 1: Be, right?
[21:08] Speaker 3: First game of the season showed us, right? We was
[21:10] Speaker 3: already talking about how it looked, them not having a
[21:13] Speaker 3: point guard. The very first game of the season, how
[21:15] Speaker 3: it looked.
[21:16] Speaker 1: Double OT. Yeah, double. And it looked like, yeah, you
[21:19] Speaker 1: need somebody to get them guys involved, right? You had
[21:23] Speaker 1: ample time to address that, and you didn't. That falls
[21:26] Speaker 1: on front office.
[21:27] Speaker 3: The guys going out and playing, they're going to try
[21:29] Speaker 3: to do all they can to circumvent not having that.
[21:34] Speaker 3: But still, those guys need to, like, you need somebody
[21:41] Speaker 3: out there like Fred that's been there, that's won, and
[21:44] Speaker 3: they had ample opportunity to go get something. Listen, man,
[21:48] Speaker 3: you could have went and got Kyle Lowry from Philly.
[21:52] Speaker 3: And he could have.
[21:53] Speaker 1: Somebody. Somebody, right? Able-bodied.
[21:58] Speaker 2: He over there just sitting.
[21:59] Speaker 3: He don't need big minutes. He don't need big minutes.
[22:03] Speaker 3: You just need somebody out there when shit get tough.
[22:06] Speaker 3: He know where the ball need to go.
[22:08] Speaker 1: That's all.
[22:09] Speaker 3: I ain't saying you playing 35 a night. But it's
[22:12] Speaker 3: just a name. Somebody that knows how to play the
[22:16] Speaker 3: position that you can depend on.
[22:18] Speaker 2: That's all.
[22:21] Speaker 1: When you look at this current iteration of the Rockets.
[22:23] Speaker 2: Mike Conley, I ought to do what I did to
[22:24] Speaker 2: go get Mike Conley from him.
[22:26] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[22:26] Speaker 2: I ought to do something.
[22:27] Speaker 5: I tweeted the other night during the Final Four Championship game.
[22:32] Speaker 5: If the Rockets had that Elliott Cadeau, who was the
[22:35] Speaker 5: most outstanding player, obviously from Michigan, if they had him
[22:39] Speaker 5: right now, they'd be a tough out. They just don't
[22:44] Speaker 5: have that tough little man to run the show. But
[22:49] Speaker 5: Let me say this about Kevin Durant. I saw some
[22:53] Speaker 5: slippage last year in Phoenix. I saw some aging taking
[22:56] Speaker 5: over and he and I went back and forth on
[22:59] Speaker 5: social media a couple times about that. And I must
[23:02] Speaker 5: say he took it back up a level. He looks
[23:06] Speaker 5: like Kevin Durant to me right now. And I know
[23:08] Speaker 5: he gets in some binds when they don't have somebody
[23:12] Speaker 5: to get him his shots. And some teams can take
[23:15] Speaker 5: him completely out of being able to create a shot.
[23:18] Speaker 5: But Man, last night as he returned to Phoenix with
[23:24] Speaker 5: a chip on his shoulder and a grudge in his heart,
[23:27] Speaker 5: once he got on track, I don't know if you're
[23:29] Speaker 5: going to talk about Dylan Brooks in a second, but
[23:31] Speaker 5: once he got on track, he looked like Kevin bleeping
[23:34] Speaker 5: Durant to me. He's playing at an extremely high level,
[23:38] Speaker 5: and he will have to for them to make any
[23:41] Speaker 5: noise in the next two weeks.
[23:46] Speaker 1: I think we've said it before.
[23:47] Speaker 2: Katie doing his part.
[23:49] Speaker 1: He always can't do that.
[23:50] Speaker 4: And any project he does, I'm.
[23:53] Speaker 1: Not saying everywhere he's going, he get an A.
[23:56] Speaker 3: Everywhere he's going, he get an A. We've been saying
[23:59] Speaker 3: he is probably the only plug-and-play player in the National
[24:05] Speaker 3: Basketball Association that's seen in a long time. There's been
[24:09] Speaker 3: a lot of great players that play in this league.
[24:11] Speaker 3: but systems have been built around them, and they have to,
[24:15] Speaker 3: wherever they go, that system has to change for that person.
[24:18] Speaker 4: That's a good point.
[24:19] Speaker 3: Not for Kevin Durant. Everybody else can still beat them
[24:22] Speaker 3: because of his efficiency.
[24:24] Speaker 1: Right.
[24:24] Speaker 2: 50-90, 50-40-90.
[24:29] Speaker 1: Flirting with it right now, 51% from the field.
[24:33] Speaker 2: Like, that's, come on, man. At this age, still doing
[24:36] Speaker 2: it like that?
[24:37] Speaker 3: Like, it's injuries behind him.
[24:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, 52% from the field, 41% from three, 88% from
[24:44] Speaker 1: the free throw line. Uh-oh.
[24:45] Speaker 6: 26%.
[24:46] Speaker 1: That don't work.
[24:48] Speaker 6: Get to that free throw line.
[24:49] Speaker 2: Can't miss, though. Can't miss.
[24:51] Speaker 1: I know.
[24:51] Speaker 6: He missed those. He missed those.
[24:53] Speaker 1: Can't miss, bro.
[24:54] Speaker 3: You got to run some 15, 20 straight real quick.
[24:59] Speaker 4: They're going to need Shepard to actually hit shots. Because
[25:03] Speaker 4: when you're talking about just the playoffs themselves, we know, okay,
[25:09] Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, okay. He's his own scouting report, right? So
[25:14] Speaker 4: it's like, all right, if we're going to take him out,
[25:15] Speaker 4: what are they going to do?
[25:16] Speaker 1: All right, Sangoon.
[25:20] Speaker 4: If we take him out, who's third? Who's going to
[25:22] Speaker 4: win it for him, right? And I think no one's
[25:25] Speaker 4: going to guard Shepard like that. Unless he's making shots.
[25:29] Speaker 4: Unless he's making shots. And the only way I'm going
[25:32] Speaker 4: to help off of and keep my eyes off of
[25:34] Speaker 4: Kevin Durant or Sangoon is if my man is hitting shots. Yep.
[25:39] Speaker 4: So if he comes out, game one is going to
[25:41] Speaker 4: try to take them to– if Shepard comes.
[25:44] Speaker 1: Out hitting shots off the rip, that changes the series.
[25:49] Speaker 5: But they thought he was a point guard, and he's
[25:51] Speaker 5: just not.
[25:52] Speaker 4: All he is is a shooter. He's a six man.
[25:59] Speaker 1: He is.
[25:59] Speaker 4: He's a guy that can– like a Ben Gordy. So
[26:03] Speaker 4: you got to play him like that. When he's coming in,
[26:05] Speaker 4: you're the microwave guy. We got to come bring you
[26:08] Speaker 4: off screens, let you be that run-around guy. You sitting
[26:11] Speaker 4: there doing pick and rolls, I got to put you,
[26:13] Speaker 4: let you come off screens. Nobody's chasing nobody off screens
[26:15] Speaker 4: these days. They can't even keep up with Kevin Durant.
[26:18] Speaker 4: I mean, Kevin, I mean, Curry, right?
[26:21] Speaker 1: Like, as soon as Curry passes the ball, he understands
[26:24] Speaker 1: what defense does. Go. Takes off. Right?
[26:29] Speaker 4: So, you know, with guarding him and you just sitting
[26:32] Speaker 4: there running off all these down picks and splits and stuff,
[26:35] Speaker 4: that could be your job. You would get so much.
[26:38] Speaker 4: Easy buckets. Just moving without the ball.
[26:41] Speaker 2: They got a willing passer, too, in Sangoon.
[26:44] Speaker 3: Is 20-9 enough for them to, from Sangoon?
[26:49] Speaker 1: 20-9? 20-9?
[26:50] Speaker 6: I was just about to ask you that.
[26:52] Speaker 5: 20-9?
[26:52] Speaker 6: Do you think Sangoon's having a down year.
[26:54] Speaker 2: Than last year?
[26:56] Speaker 1: I feel like the ball.
[26:57] Speaker 6: Was in his hands more last year than last year.
[26:59] Speaker 6: when they needed, like, clutch plays and stuff. Like, even
[27:03] Speaker 6: when they was playing against the Warriors, like, in that
[27:06] Speaker 6: playoff series, I just felt like it was different last year. Like,
[27:09] Speaker 6: this year is more like he's– I mean, he's averaging
[27:11] Speaker 6: more points. He's averaging 20. Last year he averaged 19.
[27:13] Speaker 6: But I just felt like he was a plus. He
[27:15] Speaker 6: was a plus, like, five, and now he's a plus two.
[27:18] Speaker 4: You know, we got a– we got Kevin in the room.
[27:22] Speaker 2: But we were expecting.
[27:23] Speaker 4: We thought we were going to get more.
[27:26] Speaker 2: We sat on the couch like that.
[27:28] Speaker 6: We thought that this was.
[27:29] Speaker 1: They were going to play through him throughout the season.
[27:32] Speaker 1: Rebounds are down, but. Yeah, it's hard to score.
[27:35] Speaker 2: He went up a point.
[27:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, a point.
[27:37] Speaker 6: But then the year before that, he was averaging 21.
[27:39] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[27:40] Speaker 1: But it's hard to be a go-to guy if you
[27:42] Speaker 1: can't shoot the ball.
[27:45] Speaker 2: That's hard.
[27:46] Speaker 1: Like, I mean, how many times you're.
[27:47] Speaker 4: Going to fall for the same pump fake before they realize.
[27:51] Speaker 5: You're talking about shooting threes?
[27:52] Speaker 4: Period.
[27:53] Speaker 5: No, he can shoot.
[27:55] Speaker 4: But he catches the ball. Damn near the hash.
[27:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. He wants to catch it at the hash, then go.
[28:00] Speaker 4: So it's like, it's not like you're catching it at
[28:02] Speaker 4: the free throw line, then going here. You're catching it
[28:04] Speaker 4: at the hash, and you're going to dribble. Then you're
[28:06] Speaker 4: going to play sloppy man basketball, put your body on him.
[28:08] Speaker 1: Spin, spin, and do a flail.
[28:10] Speaker 4: Then you want to flail and do all that stuff.
[28:12] Speaker 1: Just back up.
[28:14] Speaker 5: He plays little to me. They list him at 6'11.
[28:16] Speaker 5: He looks like he's 6'9. He plays... like little big.
[28:20] Speaker 4: Under the basket. It's that under the basket. It's that Z-Bowl,
[28:23] Speaker 4: that Z-Bowl style.
[28:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
[28:25] Speaker 4: There is like a counter, like a counter puncher, right?
[28:28] Speaker 4: I'm going to go spin. You're going to, I'm going
[28:30] Speaker 4: to feel you here. I'm going to feel you this way.
[28:31] Speaker 4: I'm going to try to cut you off. I'm going to, like,
[28:33] Speaker 4: it's that. Yeah, I'm trying to use whatever it is
[28:35] Speaker 4: you're presenting.
[28:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:36] Speaker 4: So you can play like him, Jokic, no matter how
[28:39] Speaker 4: rough you play with them, they're countering all of it
[28:42] Speaker 4: with the spins and bumps and this and that.
[28:44] Speaker 6: And like, it's. I think KD took a lot away
[28:47] Speaker 6: from his aggressiveness.
[28:49] Speaker 1: No, he's aggressive.
[28:50] Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm telling you, like, it looked like he
[28:53] Speaker 6: was ready to take that next. And then he just,
[28:57] Speaker 6: I mean, and it's, yes, Kevin Durant. So, of course,
[29:00] Speaker 6: you're going to defer. But without a point guard, too,
[29:04] Speaker 6: I'm thinking, okay.
[29:06] Speaker 1: He's taking the same amount of shots, though.
[29:08] Speaker 4: But you know what?
[29:09] Speaker 6: More.
[29:09] Speaker 1: I think career high. How many free throws is he taking?
[29:13] Speaker 1: He is shooting Gil... About five free throws a game.
[29:16] Speaker 6: Okay, that's not enough. That's not enough for somebody 6%.
[29:19] Speaker 1: That's not enough for somebody 6%.
[29:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When you're talking about taking
[29:23] Speaker 4: the next step, right, that means you are going into
[29:26] Speaker 4: the summer looking at a flaw and making that a strength, right?
[29:32] Speaker 4: When Dwayne Wade took the next step, what did he
[29:34] Speaker 4: come back with? The bank shot, right? He came back
[29:37] Speaker 4: that year with his bank. Then the very next year,
[29:40] Speaker 4: he came back with a pump fake, right? So that
[29:42] Speaker 4: means he still has all the drives and the splits
[29:46] Speaker 4: that he had. Then he added a bank shot. Then
[29:48] Speaker 4: he added a pump fake to the bank shot, right?
[29:51] Speaker 4: That's how you elevate your game. So if we're talking
[29:54] Speaker 4: about taking the next step, the next step is Making
[29:58] Speaker 4: sure you can hit the long ball a little bit.
[30:00] Speaker 4: Making sure you can make free throws. Making sure you're
[30:03] Speaker 4: getting fouled because the difference between 20 and 25 is
[30:07] Speaker 4: free throws.
[30:08] Speaker 1: Right?
[30:09] Speaker 4: I don't have to shoot no more extra shots on
[30:12] Speaker 4: my field goal just free throws.
[30:14] Speaker 1: Right? We get in the penalty. Come on down here.
[30:17] Speaker 1: Got you.
[30:18] Speaker 4: Two free throws.
[30:18] Speaker 1: Right?
[30:19] Speaker 4: It's that game that you upgrade. So the fact that
[30:23] Speaker 4: he's a guy who does all this bumping and stuff,
[30:25] Speaker 4: he's only shooting five free throws.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Trey Young shoots more than that.
[30:28] Speaker 4: Brunson shoots more than that. You know what I mean? So, understand,
[30:32] Speaker 4: you're the big man who's driving all the time and
[30:33] Speaker 4: you can only get fouled.
[30:35] Speaker 9: Right.
[30:36] Speaker 5: Would you take him over DeAndre Ayton right now?
[30:38] Speaker 1: Who?
[30:38] Speaker 6: Over who?
[30:39] Speaker 1: Shit, yeah.
[30:40] Speaker 5: Over your guy, Ayton. Would you take Shingun over Ayton?
[30:43] Speaker 1: Yes. Hell yeah.
[30:44] Speaker 5: Like, hell yeah.
[30:47] Speaker 4: That's like a Ferrari and a Honda.
[30:49] Speaker 1: Let's get out of here.
[30:52] Speaker 4: Damn.
[30:52] Speaker 2: I didn't even need my question.
[30:54] Speaker 1: It's a Honda at best. J.J. Reddick said... It's your
[30:59] Speaker 1: first car. I ain't been to a Honda.
[31:04] Speaker 6: His comparison.
[31:05] Speaker 1: How much.
[31:06] Speaker 6: Is the comparison?
[31:06] Speaker 1: Where's Clint Capella?
[31:07] Speaker 4: Where's his comparison at?
[31:10] Speaker 2: Get me Clint.
[31:11] Speaker 1: That ain't a new Kia. You still got the plug-in lighter.
[31:21] Speaker 2: I'm saying for the car charger, you got the plug,
[31:23] Speaker 2: the lighter. Yeah, you got that one. Yeah, that's what
[31:25] Speaker 2: that boy is. I miss those guys.
[31:28] Speaker 1: I haven't seen one of those. Back down memory lane.
[31:35] Speaker 1: We got to go back to a moment in the
[31:36] Speaker 1: game that Had the internet buzzing, so let's take a look.
[31:41] Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, things were chippy all game, including the
[31:43] Speaker 1: second quarter when Kevin Durant and Dylan Brooks were jawing
[31:46] Speaker 1: at each other. So after Brooks fouled, KD got up.
[31:49] Speaker 1: They started talking. Reckless. Amidst the trash talk, KD appeared
[31:53] Speaker 1: to tell Brooks, my worst season is better than your best.
[31:55] Speaker 1: Right there. Then on the very next play, that's mean-spirited.
[32:02] Speaker 1: KD said Brooks stumbling, hit a jumper over Mark Williams.
[32:07] Speaker 1: Hey now. Oh shit. My work season is better than
[32:13] Speaker 1: your best. Get your bum ass up. I'm sure he did.
[32:19] Speaker 1: They kept talking as he went back down the court.
[32:21] Speaker 1: So Durant was asked about that moment in Brooks' continued
[32:24] Speaker 1: attempts to try and poke bears and had this response.
[32:27] Speaker 1: Not at all.
[32:28] Speaker 4: I'm not giving him that.
[32:29] Speaker 2: He don't get that type of credit with me.
[32:30] Speaker 10: Maybe some other guys that may turn up because he
[32:34] Speaker 10: talked to him, but he's not that important.
[32:36] Speaker 2: Or special to me to get me going, you know
[32:38] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? I wake up going, getting ready to play,
[32:41] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying?
[32:41] Speaker 10: But I respect Dylan. I respect what he brings to
[32:43] Speaker 10: the game. Like I said earlier, I think that gets
[32:47] Speaker 10: him going more than me, you know what I'm saying?
[32:50] Speaker 10: I just happened to get that ball right afterwards and
[32:52] Speaker 10: make a good move, but it wasn't in spite of Dylan.
[32:55] Speaker 2: I wanted to show him up.
[32:57] Speaker 10: He's not that much of a concern to me, but
[32:59] Speaker 10: I respect how he approaches the.
[33:00] Speaker 1: Game and what he does.
[33:02] Speaker 10: That's valuable to him, and that brings him you know,
[33:04] Speaker 10: makes him a better player.
[33:05] Speaker 2: But me, it has nothing to do with my game.
[33:10] Speaker 4: That was worse than my worst year is your best year.
[33:13] Speaker 1: That was worse.
[33:14] Speaker 6: That was some good trash talk.
[33:16] Speaker 1: Huh?
[33:16] Speaker 6: Some good trash talk.
[33:17] Speaker 1: At the end?
[33:18] Speaker 6: Everything.
[33:19] Speaker 4: No, not at the end.
[33:20] Speaker 1: That hurts.
[33:21] Speaker 6: Some good trash talk.
[33:22] Speaker 4: You talking to me gets you hyped. They don't do
[33:24] Speaker 4: nothing to me.
[33:24] Speaker 1: I don't know you. It's some good trash talk. I
[33:29] Speaker 1: like it. I like it.
[33:31] Speaker 6: It's the perfect time. Playoffs is right around the corner.
[33:33] Speaker 6: Let's go.
[33:35] Speaker 1: Because that is the actual truth.
[33:38] Speaker 4: He's getting himself hyped to stop you. Like, yeah, yeah,
[33:41] Speaker 4: this is what we're doing. And it fuels that type
[33:45] Speaker 4: of guy. So for him to say it in reality, yeah,
[33:48] Speaker 4: that gets him going. That don't do nothing to me.
[33:50] Speaker 1: He just.
[33:50] Speaker 2: Just a guy.
[33:51] Speaker 1: Just a guy. Just a guy.
[33:52] Speaker 4: Just a guy on the team.
[33:54] Speaker 1: Skip, I saw you laughing during KD's commentary. Yeah.
[33:59] Speaker 5: Look, that was a classic case of why Dylan Brooks
[34:05] Speaker 5: is more trouble than he's worth. That there was why
[34:09] Speaker 5: he's no longer in Memphis and no longer in Houston
[34:12] Speaker 5: and probably next year he'll be somewhere else. So think
[34:16] Speaker 5: about this. Dylan Brooks' team, the home team, had just
[34:22] Speaker 5: gone on a 24-0 run. They were up 26-5 because
[34:28] Speaker 5: Kevin Durant was trying too hard. He was pressing because
[34:32] Speaker 5: he said earlier this year, for the first time in
[34:34] Speaker 5: his career, he got, to use his words, kicked out
[34:38] Speaker 5: by a team. He It stuck with him, and it
[34:46] Speaker 5: stuck in his craw, and it hurt him, and he
[34:49] Speaker 5: wanted to show them. He wanted to punish the home
[34:52] Speaker 5: crowd last night in his first game back in Phoenix,
[34:58] Speaker 5: and he starts one for six. So you've got him
[35:00] Speaker 5: right where you want him until Dylan Brooks starts poking
[35:05] Speaker 5: the bear. Well, that's the one bear you just can't poke.
[35:08] Speaker 5: Just let him stew, let him fret, let him keep
[35:12] Speaker 5: trying too hard, let him press on his jumper. and
[35:15] Speaker 5: go one for 12. Just leave him alone. And the
[35:19] Speaker 5: game flipped on what you just saw. And he pushed
[35:26] Speaker 5: the wrong button in the wrong guy at the wrong time.
[35:30] Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the game just flips on
[35:32] Speaker 5: his head, on its head. It just goes crazy from
[35:34] Speaker 5: that point on. And Kevin just took it out and
[35:38] Speaker 5: took it out and took it out on Dylan Brooks.
[35:40] Speaker 5: And I love him just dismissing him like, I don't
[35:43] Speaker 5: even care who he is. Like he's talking about him
[35:45] Speaker 5: like he doesn't really know who he is. That's fine.
[35:48] Speaker 5: And that's what I think of Dylan Brooks is he's
[35:52] Speaker 5: a pretty good player, but he's only a pretty good
[35:54] Speaker 5: player who's always having to instigate as part of his repertoire,
[35:59] Speaker 5: but you have to read the room and pick your spots.
[36:02] Speaker 5: And he picked the wrong spot because I thought Phoenix
[36:05] Speaker 5: had him right where, I thought Phoenix was going to
[36:07] Speaker 5: win the basketball game and From that point on, they
[36:11] Speaker 5: lost in the fourth quarter 38-21 because Kevin Durant was
[36:16] Speaker 5: by far the best player on the floor because he's him.
[36:20] Speaker 5: He's it. He's he. And he was so infuriated that
[36:26] Speaker 5: that guy would dare to try to get in my head,
[36:30] Speaker 5: get under my skin just because I got off to
[36:32] Speaker 5: a bad start. And that was the end of that
[36:35] Speaker 5: game at that flashpoint moment. So congratulations, Dylan. You lost
[36:40] Speaker 5: the game for your team at home.
[36:43] Speaker 1: So you're talking about Dylan the villain, though. I understand
[36:46] Speaker 1: what you're saying, but in Memphis, successful. Obviously, scapegoated him
[36:51] Speaker 1: after that series. Got smacked by the Lakers, which is
[36:54] Speaker 1: going to happen anyway.
[36:54] Speaker 5: He even pushed LeBron's button at all the wrong times.
[36:59] Speaker 1: But goes to the Rockets, a part of that turnaround
[37:00] Speaker 1: over there with Ema Adoka, helps build the culture over there.
[37:03] Speaker 1: Goes to the Sun Squad, having a career year right now,
[37:05] Speaker 1: putting up 20 points per game. But it seems like
[37:07] Speaker 1: you've got to take the good with the bad with
[37:09] Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks. Because nobody would expect the Suns to be
[37:12] Speaker 1: seventh right now.
[37:13] Speaker 5: No, but that was a classic case of why you
[37:17] Speaker 5: can't trust him when you need him the most. Because
[37:20] Speaker 5: he doesn't know when to turn off Dylan the villain.
[37:22] Speaker 5: That's what happened last night. You've got to turn it off.
[37:25] Speaker 5: You've got to pick your spot. Pick the wrong spot.
[37:27] Speaker 5: That's just me. Is that all you've got to stay
[37:30] Speaker 5: in the league is being Dylan the villain?
[37:33] Speaker 2: Okay. That would be really good. You can continue to
[37:39] Speaker 2: be that. You just got to be really good.
[37:40] Speaker 3: What, the trash talker? No, just the villain part. Just
[37:43] Speaker 3: the antagonist part, right? You got to go out and
[37:49] Speaker 3: you got to do what Dennis Rodman was doing.
[37:51] Speaker 2: Shit like that, right?
[37:52] Speaker 3: You got to be out there putting up.
[37:55] Speaker 6: He's averaging 20. Okay.
[37:56] Speaker 1: He's playing well.
[37:58] Speaker 2: I ain't saying he's not. He's playing well, but you
[38:00] Speaker 2: got to.
[38:02] Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just saying, this is his best year.
[38:04] Speaker 1: It is.
[38:05] Speaker 6: I mean, I know this– I love it.
[38:07] Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, and Memphis– There was a
[38:09] Speaker 1: point we were talking about him in the All-Star discussion.
[38:11] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you know, earlier this season. I feel
[38:13] Speaker 6: Memphis went down when they let him go. I mean,
[38:15] Speaker 6: that's just me personally. I mean, I just think they
[38:17] Speaker 6: lost that firepower. I feel like that's just where it
[38:20] Speaker 6: started going downhill for them. I think they needed that
[38:22] Speaker 6: with Ja and that.
[38:24] Speaker 3: Everybody needs that.
[38:26] Speaker 6: But to skip a point, yes, he does a little
[38:28] Speaker 6: bit too much. But, I mean– I mean, like we said,
[38:31] Speaker 6: we didn't know the Phoenix was going to be here
[38:32] Speaker 6: at seventh. I mean, dude's averaging 20. Dude went from
[38:35] Speaker 6: last year to having his best year this year. You know,
[38:38] Speaker 6: he's feeling himself. He gets criticized a lot for a
[38:40] Speaker 6: lot of things. But he still goes out there and
[38:42] Speaker 6: does his thing. So it's kind of, you know, you
[38:45] Speaker 6: do got to be careful who you are poking. I mean,
[38:47] Speaker 6: Kevin Durant, like if I'm meeting up with Kevin Durant
[38:50] Speaker 6: in the playoffs, I'm not, you know, got to calm
[38:52] Speaker 6: it down just a little bit.
[38:53] Speaker 1: But.
[38:54] Speaker 2: But he's not.
[38:55] Speaker 6: I can't. It's just hard because he's cooking, too, though.
[38:59] Speaker 6: At the same time. He's 20.
[39:01] Speaker 4: But he's not.
[39:02] Speaker 6: He's cooking, but he's not.
[39:04] Speaker 2: He's playing well. For Dylan Brooks, he's cooking.
[39:06] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[39:06] Speaker 6: For him, for what he's cooking.
[39:08] Speaker 4: He's cooking for Dylan Brooks.
[39:10] Speaker 2: He's having a career year, right? He's having a career year, right?
[39:12] Speaker 4: Yes.
[39:15] Speaker 2: For a defender, right?
[39:18] Speaker 3: Just take last night with the Kevin Durant thing, right?
[39:22] Speaker 3: you already have this thing with you, right? You're known
[39:26] Speaker 3: for fucking with people. KD get off to a slow start.
[39:31] Speaker 3: We think it's because of us, right?
[39:34] Speaker 1: Right?
[39:35] Speaker 3: We think, hey, we think it's like, shit, I'm locking
[39:38] Speaker 3: KD's shit down right now, right?
[39:40] Speaker 1: Shit, I got that shit. You ain't getting that off
[39:41] Speaker 1: right now.
[39:41] Speaker 2: You walk up to him, say something, shit, got that
[39:44] Speaker 2: shit right now.
[39:44] Speaker 1: No.
[39:45] Speaker 4: No.
[39:48] Speaker 3: Like, with people like that, there's no defense that you can,
[39:53] Speaker 3: just missing, right? So, we get this inflated thing with us,
[39:58] Speaker 3: and we already shit-talking, and we already built on this,
[40:03] Speaker 3: and it just brings it out even more, and we
[40:06] Speaker 3: don't know where to put it at times, right? We
[40:09] Speaker 3: just don't know where to, right? I'm out there fucking
[40:13] Speaker 3: with Kobe for what?
[40:15] Speaker 1: Right? For what? You did that? Yeah.
[40:18] Speaker 2: Like, because I.
[40:19] Speaker 3: The only thing I got to come back with, he said,
[40:21] Speaker 3: you know what I'm about out here.
[40:22] Speaker 2: The only thing I can come back with is, and you.
[40:25] Speaker 1: Know what I'm about out here.
[40:26] Speaker 4: Right?
[40:27] Speaker 1: You keep scoring, we're going to fight.
[40:28] Speaker 4: You keep scoring.
[40:29] Speaker 5: Right?
[40:32] Speaker 3: That's all I had, right? You're out there going through it, right?
[40:35] Speaker 3: But it's that, right? You fuck with the wrong people.
[40:38] Speaker 3: That's just who we are at times, right? We think
[40:41] Speaker 3: we didn't got a couple stops and we think we
[40:43] Speaker 3: playing better defense than we are at times.
[40:44] Speaker 2: We could be playing great defense.
[40:46] Speaker 3: Either they scoring or they making it or you can
[40:48] Speaker 3: play the best defense in the world and they miss.
[40:51] Speaker 3: And they make it. So it's not us. But we don't,
[40:54] Speaker 3: like I said, he don't know where to put it
[40:56] Speaker 3: at times, right?
[40:58] Speaker 4: And I think that's the difference is he doesn't realize
[41:05] Speaker 4: he has a double-edged sword with him now, being in Phoenix. See,
[41:10] Speaker 4: you used to get hype stopping players, right? You're only
[41:15] Speaker 4: targeting superstars, right? It's like you are going out for
[41:20] Speaker 4: the big whale. Everybody over here fishing.
[41:21] Speaker 1: You're like LeBron, KD, Curry.
[41:25] Speaker 4: Yeah, if I can get somebody to win me, I'm
[41:27] Speaker 4: going to get somebody to win me. I want that shade.
[41:30] Speaker 4: I'm not wasting my talent over here. I want the
[41:33] Speaker 4: big stuff. Now the difference is you have something to lose. See,
[41:40] Speaker 4: they're going to keep shooting.
[41:42] Speaker 1: They don't care about you.
[41:45] Speaker 4: So, what happens when you miss shots too?
[41:49] Speaker 1: See, before, because you didn't.
[41:50] Speaker 4: See, Dennis Rodman, he don't care about missing. That is
[41:54] Speaker 4: not part of his, like, I just get to defend,
[41:57] Speaker 4: smack you on the ass, wrestle you, tackle you. I
[41:59] Speaker 4: don't have to worry about offense. Well, Dylan averages 20 now.
[42:03] Speaker 4: You go over three, over four, you don't even want
[42:06] Speaker 4: to talk trash no more because now you got to
[42:08] Speaker 4: focus again. You got to get back. Like, you done
[42:11] Speaker 4: talked yourself out of your own game.
[42:13] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[42:14] Speaker 4: To the point it's like, yo, how about this? Do
[42:16] Speaker 4: what we do as offensive players. Just wait till you
[42:19] Speaker 4: hit a bucket and start talking trash.
[42:20] Speaker 1: You can't guard me.
[42:22] Speaker 4: Like, you need to change the narrative for yourself and
[42:25] Speaker 4: be more of an offensive-minded thinker because trying to stop
[42:29] Speaker 4: someone who's going to shoot all the time and you
[42:31] Speaker 4: trying to keep up your 20-point average, you can dial
[42:35] Speaker 4: yourself down on accident.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Like, where did he go last night? Three for 12.
[42:41] Speaker 1: He's one for seven for the three. Yeah, you do it.
[42:44] Speaker 1: You talk to yourself.
[42:48] Speaker 6: Should he go talk to, like, Ron Artes? Somebody like that?
[42:51] Speaker 2: Say it again?
[42:52] Speaker 6: Like, Ron Artes. I mean, I'm looking at Ron Artes' stats.
[42:56] Speaker 6: I mean, he was averaging 20, 18, but he was
[42:58] Speaker 6: still a... He was wild and getting guys. But he
[43:01] Speaker 6: still had a... But I'm saying, like, from the aspect
[43:04] Speaker 6: of understanding when to be that and.
[43:07] Speaker 1: Nah, okay.
[43:08] Speaker 4: Ron Artes was.
[43:09] Speaker 6: He.
[43:10] Speaker 4: He was different because he didn't really talk.
[43:13] Speaker 2: You didn't talk.
[43:14] Speaker 4: He didn't talk. No, talk, but he was still known
[43:16] Speaker 4: as a... You don't see none of his emotions, so
[43:21] Speaker 4: you don't know what's going on over there. You just
[43:23] Speaker 4: feel it. Feel the heart, his elbows.
[43:26] Speaker 6: You don't know if.
[43:26] Speaker 4: He's frustrated or not. It's more of a Gary Payton. Remember,
[43:31] Speaker 4: Gary Payton came in as only a defender. That's where
[43:35] Speaker 4: he started. Then he got his offense together, but he.
[43:39] Speaker 1: Was a guy.
[43:40] Speaker 4: who talked trash the whole game and still had to
[43:45] Speaker 4: put points on. You're talking about I got to guard Jordan,
[43:49] Speaker 4: stop Jordan, and put points in because I'm one of
[43:52] Speaker 4: the scorers on this team. So those are the type
[43:55] Speaker 4: of guys he has to talk to and ask questions.
[43:58] Speaker 4: Once you get to this level, how do you keep
[44:01] Speaker 4: your offense into it?
[44:03] Speaker 3: You got to be able to do it, man.
[44:07] Speaker 1: I like that.
[44:08] Speaker 3: Like, you got to be able to talk and play, right?
[44:11] Speaker 3: You can't, like, that's the beauty about it, right? You
[44:14] Speaker 3: got to be able to do it. Like, KD, like,
[44:16] Speaker 3: he can do it. It don't, like, don't bother him, right? Whoever, like,
[44:20] Speaker 3: when he was out there talking, the Denver game, was
[44:22] Speaker 3: it Bruce Brown?
[44:23] Speaker 1: Yep.
[44:24] Speaker 3: It doesn't phase him, right? Because we out here to hoop.
[44:28] Speaker 3: I'm going to talk shit and bust your ass simultaneously.
[44:33] Speaker 3: That has to be your mentality, right? You can't let
[44:35] Speaker 3: your psyche it. get the best of you when you're
[44:38] Speaker 3: not contributing and helping your team. GP did it well,
[44:43] Speaker 3: other guys, Michael Jordan did it well, Kobe did it well.
[44:45] Speaker 3: You say something to him, you know what it was, right?
[44:47] Speaker 3: I'm going to bust your ass. while talking shit to you.
[44:51] Speaker 1: And I'm going to stop you. And I'm going to
[44:54] Speaker 1: come guard you.
[44:56] Speaker 3: And I'm going to come guard you. It ain't like
[44:58] Speaker 3: we're going to be on opposite sides of the court. No,
[45:01] Speaker 3: I'm going to come stand next to you. You're going
[45:04] Speaker 3: to guard me and I'm damn sure going to make
[45:06] Speaker 3: sure I'm going to guard you.
[45:08] Speaker 1: It wasn't a matchup to start the game, but you started.
[45:10] Speaker 3: Running your mouth. Now I want this action. Now I'm
[45:13] Speaker 3: going to turn your water off.
[45:16] Speaker 5: So Gil, remember the playoff series a few years back, Lakers-Memphis.
[45:21] Speaker 5: When Ja was at his superstar best, I thought Memphis
[45:24] Speaker 5: was a little better than your Lakers. And what did
[45:27] Speaker 5: Dylan the villain do? He started going after LeBron to
[45:31] Speaker 5: the point he was even going after him in the
[45:34] Speaker 5: Lakers huddle before tip-off. He's going over there and antagonizing,
[45:39] Speaker 5: and to the media, he's calling him an old man.
[45:42] Speaker 5: Remember this? You just can't. There's a line you can't cross.
[45:48] Speaker 5: even though LeBron might be a little more susceptible to
[45:51] Speaker 5: that than KD is, but if you cross that line,
[45:55] Speaker 5: the best LeBron I've ever seen is angry LeBron, and
[45:58] Speaker 5: it doesn't happen very often, but when somebody courtside gets
[46:03] Speaker 5: under his skin, says something, we've seen it happen in
[46:06] Speaker 5: LeBron's past, where somebody heckled him, got under his skin,
[46:10] Speaker 5: and he just goes crazy. I wish we'd see more
[46:13] Speaker 5: of of that guy when he just plays flat-out angry.
[46:17] Speaker 5: And Dylan, the villain, sent LeBron over the angry edge.
[46:21] Speaker 5: And it was spectacular to watch. And after that series,
[46:26] Speaker 5: the Memphis GM made it clear publicly, I have seen
[46:29] Speaker 5: enough of Dylan Brooks. That they basically scapegoated him for
[46:34] Speaker 5: the whole series because he deserved it.
[46:37] Speaker 2: But do you need.
[46:42] Speaker 3: When the rest of your team is quote-unquote finesse players,
[46:48] Speaker 3: do you need a Dylan Brooks?
[46:50] Speaker 6: But is he physical?
[46:52] Speaker 5: Is he you?
[46:53] Speaker 1: In this NBA, yes. In the way the game is
[46:59] Speaker 1: played now, I would say yes.
[47:03] Speaker 2: In order to be successful.
[47:06] Speaker 2: You need a few assholes over there.
[47:08] Speaker 5: Okay, he is that. He's a designated asshole.
[47:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody that's not going to deviate from it.
[47:14] Speaker 1: Oh, I got that. But I think if.
[47:18] Speaker 5: But is he a bad MF? No. Is he somebody
[47:22] Speaker 5: you're afraid of physically?
[47:24] Speaker 1: No, no, no, not that.
[47:26] Speaker 6: He's somebody that's annoying.
[47:27] Speaker 1: He's annoying. He's annoying.
[47:29] Speaker 6: He's just like, here we go.
[47:31] Speaker 3: I think you need somebody when shit gets going. If
[47:34] Speaker 3: the game is going a certain way... In order to
[47:37] Speaker 3: get us going, we need somebody to come in there
[47:39] Speaker 3: and mix it up and for us to have to
[47:41] Speaker 3: rally together and all that.
[47:42] Speaker 1: We need that at times. There's a time and place
[47:45] Speaker 1: for it. Of course, we don't need it.
[47:48] Speaker 5: But Dennis Rodman, I covered Dennis Rodman in Chicago. He
[47:53] Speaker 5: was as fierce a below-the-rim rebounder as ever stepped on
[47:58] Speaker 5: an NBA floor. So he's backing it up. He's a
[48:02] Speaker 5: bad MF. You can't deal with him. They couldn't keep
[48:06] Speaker 5: him off the glass. And he was very physical and
[48:12] Speaker 5: scary physical. And I don't see that from Dylan Brooks.
[48:17] Speaker 5: He's a good defender. Is he a great defender?
[48:20] Speaker 1: No.
[48:20] Speaker 5: Is he an overpowering physical defender?
[48:26] Speaker 1: No.
[48:26] Speaker 6: Has Dylan Brooks played with any superstars yet? Like Dennis Robbins?
[48:29] Speaker 1: Jaw.
[48:31] Speaker 5: Jaw at his best.
[48:32] Speaker 1: No?
[48:33] Speaker 6: So if Dylan Brooks played with LeBron.
[48:35] Speaker 4: No, I mean like you're talking about a young guy
[48:38] Speaker 4: trying to figure out what he is.
[48:41] Speaker 1: Right?
[48:41] Speaker 4: So the only superstar he really played with that been
[48:43] Speaker 4: to the level would have been Derrick Rose when Derrick
[48:46] Speaker 4: Rose got there. I don't know. I think Derrick left
[48:48] Speaker 4: or he left when Derrick Rose was there. But that
[48:50] Speaker 4: would have been the only superstar.
[48:53] Speaker 1: Right.
[48:53] Speaker 6: But don't you think his control would be different if
[48:55] Speaker 6: he played with a guy like KD, if he played
[48:57] Speaker 6: with a guy like Steph Curry, if he played with
[48:59] Speaker 6: a guy like LeBron, like.
[49:00] Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman, right?
[49:01] Speaker 6: I'm playing with Michael Jordan. So I know my level of, like,
[49:05] Speaker 6: you know.
[49:05] Speaker 1: He's playing with Booker. Huh? He's playing with Booker.
[49:08] Speaker 6: Booker's on the same level as, like, Michael, I mean,
[49:12] Speaker 6: as LeBron James.
[49:13] Speaker 4: I mean, there's only, like, four of them that's, you know.
[49:15] Speaker 2: I don't think he.
[49:16] Speaker 6: I know, but what I'm saying, like, what I'm saying,
[49:18] Speaker 6: Dennis Rodman, he played with the bad boys, with Isaiah Thomas. Like,
[49:21] Speaker 6: he's playing with these superstar guys to where he has
[49:24] Speaker 6: to have a level headed. Like, you're not going to be... Like,
[49:27] Speaker 6: you're not going to come in here and just act
[49:28] Speaker 6: like you.
[49:29] Speaker 1: But he did.
[49:30] Speaker 4: Who?
[49:30] Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman did whatever he wanted to do. He didn't
[49:32] Speaker 1: do that with the Bulls. Yes, he did.
[49:33] Speaker 2: He went to Vegas on the line.
[49:34] Speaker 1: He went to Vegas on the line.
[49:36] Speaker 6: Right, that's fine. But at the end of the day,
[49:38] Speaker 6: you still know what time it is, though.
[49:41] Speaker 1: No.
[49:41] Speaker 6: At the end of the day.
[49:41] Speaker 1: No, no, no. Okay, so why did he come back
[49:43] Speaker 1: and win?
[49:44] Speaker 4: The thing with Dennis Rodman is, I am your Michael Jordan.
[49:47] Speaker 4: You're gifted at putting that ball in the basket and defense.
[49:51] Speaker 1: Okay.
[49:52] Speaker 4: I'm great also. at rebounding and stopping people also. So
[49:59] Speaker 4: we're both the elites at what we do.
[50:03] Speaker 1: Right?
[50:04] Speaker 4: I don't say nothing to you. You're not going to
[50:06] Speaker 4: say nothing to me because when I get out there, yeah,
[50:08] Speaker 4: I partied all night. I just got in. But I'm
[50:11] Speaker 4: going to have 18 rebounds. I'm going to stop my man.
[50:13] Speaker 4: I'm going to do that. So you don't need to
[50:15] Speaker 4: tell Dennis Rodman nothing because Dennis Rodman is going to
[50:18] Speaker 4: show up with what he does. Dylan Brooks is not
[50:21] Speaker 4: that type of guy. defensive player.
[50:24] Speaker 1: Because he doesn't have.
[50:25] Speaker 4: Like, if Wendy was talking trash, he can back it up.
[50:27] Speaker 6: Because he's not playing with those type of players. So
[50:30] Speaker 6: the level of what it... Like, I'm playing with the Bulls, bro.
[50:34] Speaker 1: I'm on.
[50:35] Speaker 6: Like, this is the top of the top of the level.
[50:37] Speaker 6: I'm playing with Detroit Pistons. This is the top of
[50:39] Speaker 6: the top of the level. Of course, I'm going to
[50:41] Speaker 6: do my thing, but I'm definitely going to come here
[50:43] Speaker 6: and do my job because of who I'm playing with.
[50:45] Speaker 6: I'm playing with Michael Jordan. So, of course, I'm not
[50:47] Speaker 6: going to overdo it. Yes, I am great, but I
[50:49] Speaker 6: also know, listen, I better do this. Dylan Brooks don't
[50:52] Speaker 6: have that because he's not playing with a superstar like that.
[50:55] Speaker 6: He's not playing with a LeBron James and a Luka.
[50:57] Speaker 6: If he was on the Lakers right now, Dylan Brooks ain't.
[50:59] Speaker 1: Doing all that.
[51:00] Speaker 2: Yes, he is.
[51:00] Speaker 4: No, he's not.
[51:01] Speaker 6: No, he's not.
[51:02] Speaker 1: No, he's not.
[51:02] Speaker 4: He's not, but he's not.
[51:04] Speaker 1: No, he's not. You're playing with a superstar.
[51:06] Speaker 6: It's too much on the line. Dennis Rodman is a superstar.
[51:09] Speaker 6: But it's a lot on the line, though, too.
[51:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[51:11] Speaker 6: See, if he's playing with the Lakers, it's a lot
[51:13] Speaker 6: on the line.
[51:15] Speaker 4: I don't think you know Dennis Rodman.
[51:16] Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
[51:17] Speaker 4: He partied every night. It's still a lot on the line.
[51:19] Speaker 1: He came from the club to the game. It's a
[51:21] Speaker 1: lot on the line. A lot on the line.
[51:23] Speaker 4: I'm coming from the club to the game. I didn't
[51:25] Speaker 4: care what Michael Jordan was saying. I didn't care what
[51:28] Speaker 4: Phil Jackson was saying.
[51:28] Speaker 1: But that was his routine.
[51:29] Speaker 4: I'm coming from the club to the game because I
[51:35] Speaker 4: do what I do. I'm a defensive. I won defense
[51:39] Speaker 4: player of the year. coming off the bench. I'm one
[51:42] Speaker 4: of only two people in the history that was a
[51:46] Speaker 4: bench player that when I got in, I shut shit down, right?
[51:50] Speaker 4: So that's what he was, right? The headache part, they're like, okay,
[51:54] Speaker 4: he's a headache.
[51:57] Speaker 1: We'll take it.
[51:57] Speaker 2: We'll take it.
[51:58] Speaker 4: We'll take our chances with it because no matter what
[52:00] Speaker 4: he does, we know what he's going to bring.
[52:03] Speaker 2: Dylan's not that guy.
[52:05] Speaker 1: He's made a.
[52:06] Speaker 4: Name for just targeting these guys, right? That's where we
[52:09] Speaker 4: know him from. We don't know him from the production
[52:12] Speaker 4: of Shutting Shit Down, right?
[52:14] Speaker 1: That's Draymond Green.
[52:15] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That's that type of guy.
[52:17] Speaker 4: Trash talk and do whatever he wanted to because he
[52:19] Speaker 4: has the awards that's going to come with it. But
[52:26] Speaker 4: did he learn anything, though?
[52:27] Speaker 1: Who? Draymond. He got kicked out of a fucking finals game.
[52:32] Speaker 1: He got suspended for a finals game.
[52:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, but we got four.
[52:35] Speaker 6: But we got four, though.
[52:35] Speaker 1: He got four.
[52:36] Speaker 3: But the point I'm making is, guys like, they need that.
[52:47] Speaker 3: If Dylan Brooks wasn't that, he wouldn't be in the NBA.
[52:51] Speaker 3: If Draymond wasn't that, he wouldn't be in the NBA
[52:54] Speaker 3: because they're good basketball players, but there are other people
[52:58] Speaker 3: that could fill that role as well.
[53:02] Speaker 2: They have to be that.
[53:06] Speaker 3: You said if Dylan Brooks played for the Lakers, would
[53:10] Speaker 3: he be doing all that? I said yes because if
[53:14] Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is not doing that, Dylan Brooks is not
[53:17] Speaker 3: in the NBA.
[53:18] Speaker 6: No, I'm talking about all the other stuff that Skip
[53:19] Speaker 6: is saying, like all the time and place. It's like, yo,
[53:23] Speaker 6: LeBron is out there. Hey, man, you know what time
[53:24] Speaker 6: it is. Hey, we ain't doing that. Knock that shit out.
[53:27] Speaker 6: It's going to hit different.
[53:29] Speaker 2: So you don't think Steph and Katie said that shit
[53:32] Speaker 2: to Draymond?
[53:33] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[53:33] Speaker 5: And what happened?
[53:34] Speaker 6: And they won two rings. But they won two rings.
[53:37] Speaker 2: And he got kicked. So, if he don't get suspended
[53:40] Speaker 2: for game five.
[53:41] Speaker 1: That was before. You're talking about before KDK. So, here
[53:43] Speaker 1: you go.
[53:44] Speaker 6: It is different, though.
[53:47] Speaker 1: But you sound like a hater, Joe.
[53:50] Speaker 4: With LeBron or a superstar, technically, Dylan Brooks takes the
[53:54] Speaker 4: pressure off of them.
[53:56] Speaker 5: Right?
[53:57] Speaker 4: Because he's going to guard the best player. He's going
[53:58] Speaker 4: to do all that. So, it kind of takes the
[54:00] Speaker 4: pressure off of them in that sense. But One thing
[54:03] Speaker 4: that these super defenders, especially at the guard position. Super defenders.
[54:10] Speaker 4: Super defenders. The trash-talking defenders, right? It's the trash-talking ones.
[54:15] Speaker 4: One thing that they haven't calculated, and they will never calculate,
[54:21] Speaker 4: there's nothing you're going to say that's going to get
[54:25] Speaker 4: under a superstar's skin. Remember, a superstar... has been a
[54:31] Speaker 4: superstar since he was little. He done heard everything under
[54:36] Speaker 4: the sun from his own teammates wanting him to pass
[54:38] Speaker 4: the ball, from overrated all through high school, from collar.
[54:42] Speaker 4: He's done heard it all from every arena he's done
[54:45] Speaker 4: went through. Trash talking is what he knows. He's the
[54:48] Speaker 4: only one that's coming to an arena where the whole
[54:51] Speaker 4: crowd is booing him, and he's out there busting ass.
[54:53] Speaker 4: So trash talking him makes him go harder. So you
[54:57] Speaker 4: come in the game, and he's just chilling, passing the
[54:59] Speaker 4: ball around. We're just over here in Memphis, and now
[55:02] Speaker 4: you want to get it cracking.
[55:04] Speaker 1: You know what? I needed this. I was going to
[55:07] Speaker 1: take the day off.
[55:08] Speaker 2: Let's go.
[55:10] Speaker 6: Let's go.
[55:10] Speaker 4: And that's what ends up happening. Like, we've mentally, like,
[55:14] Speaker 4: we already know. All right, I'm playing against KD. LeBron
[55:17] Speaker 4: and KD, we know y'all going to show up. Curry,
[55:19] Speaker 4: whoever his match is, going to show up. It beating
[55:22] Speaker 4: when we go play Utah, Memphis, Blazers, right?
[55:29] Speaker 1: Those things. Wizards, right?
[55:31] Speaker 4: Right. It's like, oh, man, all right, we just. And
[55:34] Speaker 4: somebody start getting the yapping. Somebody get the yapping, start
[55:38] Speaker 4: talking trash, and that's how you get them numbers put
[55:40] Speaker 4: on you.
[55:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, that happened.
[55:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, we was playing the Bobcats, the Knicks. What's the boy, Henderson?
[55:50] Speaker 3: Played for the Bobcats, got the run in his mouth.
[55:53] Speaker 2: Mellow. Yeah, buddy.
[55:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey. Hey, Jack. I was over there like, dude.
[56:00] Speaker 1: I was over there like.
[56:01] Speaker 2: Man, dude, shut up. Hey, man.
[56:05] Speaker 1: Leave him alone now, man.
[56:07] Speaker 6: He was trying to help.
[56:08] Speaker 1: He got a green light. Now that was ultra green.
[56:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. Go ahead, bro.
[56:15] Speaker 6: No, the only reason why I said that is because
[56:16] Speaker 6: Ron Artes, when he went to the Lakers, they won
[56:18] Speaker 6: a championship. And him and Kobe had this little fuse
[56:21] Speaker 6: every time they played. So, Ron Artes and Kobe, right? So,
[56:24] Speaker 6: I just feel like if Dylan Brooks is on the
[56:26] Speaker 6: same team with LeBron or with the KD or with
[56:30] Speaker 6: the Steph or whatever. Like, it's different. Like, because I'm
[56:33] Speaker 6: trying to win now, right? So I just feel like
[56:35] Speaker 6: if that, I've seen it before. I'm just saying, I've
[56:37] Speaker 6: seen Ron and Kobe bump heads in Houston and about
[56:40] Speaker 6: to fight. And then when they get on the same team, oh, it's.
[56:42] Speaker 2: Time to go win.
[56:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Kobe because he's a psychopath.
[56:44] Speaker 3: And he was the same place where he came down.
[56:46] Speaker 1: LeBron James is a psychopath. He elbowed James in his shit,
[56:50] Speaker 1: didn't he? He had a Laker jersey on, didn't he?
[56:53] Speaker 1: Elbowed James in the back of his shit.
[56:54] Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
[56:55] Speaker 2: For no reason.
[56:56] Speaker 6: No, I know, but what I'm saying. There's no turning
[56:59] Speaker 6: it off is what I'm saying. No, no, I didn't
[57:01] Speaker 6: say he turned it off. They respect the guy. They
[57:03] Speaker 6: still want it, though. They respect the guy.
[57:05] Speaker 1: Who?
[57:05] Speaker 2: But the guy has nothing.
[57:07] Speaker 1: To do with it.
[57:07] Speaker 4: No, no, what I'm saying is like, Kobe is a
[57:10] Speaker 4: different person, right? He's the guy that when he comes
[57:16] Speaker 4: into a room, if you're scared, he don't respect you.
[57:21] Speaker 1: Right? Right.
[57:23] Speaker 4: So if you ever look at the players he brung
[57:27] Speaker 4: and he went out and got, have you noticed the
[57:29] Speaker 4: same people who challenged him took the challenge, right? Him
[57:33] Speaker 4: and Ron Artest, let me get him. Matt Barnes with
[57:35] Speaker 4: all that.
[57:36] Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[57:37] Speaker 4: He wants the guy that he knows well, you're going to.
[57:40] Speaker 1: Come at me? Okay.
[57:41] Speaker 4: Well, then I need to have you on my team.
[57:44] Speaker 1: Right?
[57:44] Speaker 4: You know what the worst, I remember someone saying this.
[57:48] Speaker 4: Someone was saying something about a player, right? And, you know,
[57:52] Speaker 4: like in the locker room, like if you back down
[57:54] Speaker 4: to me in practice, right? If we're going at, I'm
[57:57] Speaker 4: talking trash and you back out of that, that trash talking,
[58:03] Speaker 4: you're not, what are you going to do when AI
[58:05] Speaker 4: and Cole.
[58:05] Speaker 1: Was going to do?
[58:06] Speaker 4: I'm not even, that's what you're going to do. Oh,
[58:07] Speaker 4: you are no good to us. Just that simple. Me
[58:11] Speaker 4: and you talking trash. I'm trying to see where you
[58:12] Speaker 4: at mentally. And then you check out and you can't perform. Bro,
[58:16] Speaker 4: what do you, like, are you not even going to
[58:19] Speaker 4: compete when Colton start talking to you? And that's how
[58:23] Speaker 4: we judge talent. We judge who's in that foxhole with us.
[58:26] Speaker 1: Right?
[58:26] Speaker 4: So with Dylan Brooks, Cole would love Dylan Brooks going
[58:30] Speaker 4: out there, going after only the big fish. Like, hey,
[58:34] Speaker 4: I don't care if they're scoring 30 on you. You're
[58:38] Speaker 4: taking that challenge every single time. That's what he would
[58:41] Speaker 4: respect of it. And then he'll start teaching little techniques
[58:45] Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
[58:46] Speaker 1: But that's him.
[58:47] Speaker 4: Everybody else is like, bro, you're.
[58:48] Speaker 1: Nothing, bro.
[58:48] Speaker 5: So to your point about Jordan and Rodman, only one
[58:53] Speaker 5: time when I was there did Jordan ever call out
[58:56] Speaker 5: Rodman publicly for his behavior. And he might have done
[59:01] Speaker 5: it privately, and we didn't know about it. And I
[59:04] Speaker 5: don't think he mattered, minded the Madonna stuff off the floor,
[59:08] Speaker 5: staying on all night. But one night before a home
[59:12] Speaker 5: playoff game, first-round playoff game against nobody, against New Jersey,
[59:17] Speaker 5: Rodman showed up about 20 minutes before tip-off, and Jordan
[59:21] Speaker 5: would not live with that. You just don't do that
[59:25] Speaker 5: in the Chicago traffic, as you guys probably know. And remember,
[59:28] Speaker 5: it's awful before those games.
[59:29] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[59:30] Speaker 5: You just have to figure out how to get downtown
[59:33] Speaker 5: two hours before the game, three hours before the game.
[59:36] Speaker 5: And Jordan started his remarks to the media that night with,
[59:40] Speaker 5: we don't need any more of this shit from Dennis Rodman.
[59:43] Speaker 5: That's a quote that started unprovoked. He just volunteered that
[59:49] Speaker 5: to the media that night. That was the only time
[59:51] Speaker 5: I ever saw him call out Dennis Rodman. But that
[59:53] Speaker 5: was about showing up on time. You can do whatever
[59:56] Speaker 5: you want. You can stay out all night. You can
[59:58] Speaker 5: come straight from the club. but you better come two
[1:00:01] Speaker 5: hours before the game, three hours before the game. So
[1:00:04] Speaker 5: Jordan's just all about the discipline of showing up, of
[1:00:13] Speaker 5: being prepared to play the basketball game that night at
[1:00:16] Speaker 5: the highest level.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: So that was it.
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: You know the way the San Antonio organization has been
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: noted for being, right?
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:00:24] Speaker 3: Under pop and all that. They went and signed Dennis.
[1:00:27] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:00:29] Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But look at the
[1:00:32] Speaker 6: situations that Dennis is in. He's in winning situations where
[1:00:36] Speaker 6: a lot of it is on the table.
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: He is a winner. Yes, no, but for sure. But
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: I think Dylan Brooks plays as a winner, too.
[1:00:41] Speaker 4: I'm not saying.
[1:00:42] Speaker 6: Like, in Memphis, they were getting to the playoffs.
[1:00:43] Speaker 4: I'm not.
[1:00:44] Speaker 6: Like, I don't think he doesn't play to win, but
[1:00:46] Speaker 6: he hasn't been in an environment to where he is
[1:00:49] Speaker 6: on that level and where it matters the most. Like,
[1:00:52] Speaker 6: he went to Memphis where they're trying to... Like, you know,
[1:00:54] Speaker 6: they're trying to win.
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're young.
[1:00:55] Speaker 6: They're... They're coming up. They're young. But, like, give them
[1:00:58] Speaker 6: an opportunity to go play for a team that's in
[1:01:00] Speaker 6: Boston or something.
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: Like, have them be around that type of atmosphere.
[1:01:03] Speaker 6: We'll see. Because if he's a psycho, psychos know how to,
[1:01:08] Speaker 6: when it's time to win, I'm a psycho, but I
[1:01:10] Speaker 6: also know I ain't that damn, I ain't that bigger
[1:01:12] Speaker 6: than the program now.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: Come on.
[1:01:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, like, when you're talking about with a superstar and
[1:01:18] Speaker 4: if you aren't, like, if they're the offensive side and
[1:01:21] Speaker 4: you're not the defensive side of that and you're just
[1:01:24] Speaker 4: a mediocre defensive player, That's just talking trash. No, I'm good.
[1:01:30] Speaker 2: But he's not.
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: I'm good. He's not mediocre right now. No, what I'm saying. No, no, not.
[1:01:35] Speaker 4: I'm talking about defensively. Right now, he's turning into a
[1:01:37] Speaker 4: two-way player. That's why I'm saying you don't need the
[1:01:40] Speaker 4: gimmick of the defense anymore because you can.
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: Hype yourself off of buckets.
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: Right? Okay.
[1:01:45] Speaker 9: Right.
[1:01:46] Speaker 4: Before, he was hyping it off of defense. And then now,
[1:01:50] Speaker 4: you know, I mean defense would I don't have no
[1:01:51] Speaker 4: fourth option. I don't have no production.
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: John Aaron Bain him. He was the fourth option. So
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: I should I got to get it where I can.
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: That's that like.
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: No matter how many shots Draymond missed from the three.
[1:02:04] Speaker 4: He's still locking down down there because the his his
[1:02:07] Speaker 4: shooting is just like I'm open. I'm open. There's nothing
[1:02:12] Speaker 4: you're going to say that bothers my trip when you're
[1:02:14] Speaker 4: averaging 20 points a game.
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: It's different. 20 points again, that's a bigger contract. Now
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: I care about the shots that I'm shooting.
[1:02:23] Speaker 4: So now if I'm missing and you start talking trash,
[1:02:27] Speaker 4: I'm now.
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: The one running.
[1:02:31] Speaker 6: You think he'd be looked at different if he was
[1:02:32] Speaker 6: in Miami? With the way they run their stuff?
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: No, listen.
[1:02:38] Speaker 4: You remember I said it earlier, man. I said, you
[1:02:40] Speaker 4: know what?
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: He trained too hard this summer.
[1:02:45] Speaker 4: On skill development, Right, you can see he put in
[1:02:50] Speaker 4: a lot of work to be this productive, to still
[1:02:54] Speaker 4: only be known as Dylan the villain.
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: You have outgrown.
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: No one would know he's averaging 20.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: No one would know he's averaging 20.
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: The antics and everything, it outweighs.
[1:03:07] Speaker 4: It's still Dylan, it's Dylan, Dylan, even though he's averaging
[1:03:09] Speaker 4: 20 points a game. He needs to stand on these buckets.
[1:03:13] Speaker 4: So Brooks the bucket instead of Dylan.
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that.
[1:03:16] Speaker 4: Or just Dylan Brooks. Or just Dylan Brooks. I'm a
[1:03:19] Speaker 4: bucket getter now. I'll be saying I'm a bucket getter now.
[1:03:21] Speaker 4: Defensive players got to stop me. I can only stop
[1:03:25] Speaker 4: myself at this point. I would start doing stuff like that.
[1:03:28] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? The defensive side, you've outgrown
[1:03:32] Speaker 4: the Dylan the Villain.
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: All right. Let's keep this thing moving. Got some more
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: things to discuss. So let's head over to Milwaukee with
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: the Giannis and Bucs saga taking yet another turn as
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: tensions continue. So this past weekend, NBA announced they were
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: investigating the Bucs for potential violations of the player participation
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: policy for their handling of Giannis' knee injury. Giannis has
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: been sidelined since March 15th after hyperextending his knee in
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: the game against the Pacers. Now missed 12 straight games
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: with what the team is describing as a bone bruise.
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: Before the Bucs game against the Celtics this past Friday,
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: Giannis was very candid about being healthy enough to play
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: and the Bucs sitting him against his wishes.
[1:04:12] Speaker 9: I'm available to play today, right now.
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: I'm available.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: Do I look like I'm not available?
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: You tell me. You guys be around me. Do I
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: look like I'm hurting? Good.
[1:04:23] Speaker 9: So, I don't see myself in the first 12.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: I don't see.
[1:04:27] Speaker 9: I don't see myself.
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: In the starting lineup.
[1:04:29] Speaker 4: That's pretty much it.
[1:04:34] Speaker 9: I don't know what game is being played right here.
[1:04:36] Speaker 6: I just don't want to be a part of it.
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: Especially, like, look.
[1:04:42] Speaker 11: I'm, like, I understand.
[1:04:45] Speaker 1: I'm a vet.
[1:04:46] Speaker 9: I've been here 15 years. You know, and the team
[1:04:49] Speaker 9: gets eliminated in the playoffs. be smart, take care of
[1:04:52] Speaker 9: your body, you know, be in and out, be in
[1:04:56] Speaker 9: minute restriction, just be, you know, careful. Pray for the
[1:04:59] Speaker 9: next season, pray for the next generation, for the young players,
[1:05:02] Speaker 9: in case you need to go out there.
[1:05:03] Speaker 6: I get that.
[1:05:05] Speaker 9: But that wasn't the time that this took place. That's
[1:05:07] Speaker 9: what bothers me. It's something like you wave the white flag.
[1:05:11] Speaker 9: And I don't do that.
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: I am sorry.
[1:05:14] Speaker 9: I don't.
[1:05:15] Speaker 11: I'm not saying I will never, I never will.
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: You know who you are dealing with.
[1:05:19] Speaker 9: So for.
[1:05:20] Speaker 11: For somebody to come and tell me to not play
[1:05:22] Speaker 11: or to not compete, it's like there's love in my face.
[1:05:26] Speaker 11: So I don't know where the relationship goes from there.
[1:05:28] Speaker 11: We've got to go in couples therapy.
[1:05:31] Speaker 9: Go, consultation, couples therapy, sit down, you know, tell the side,
[1:05:37] Speaker 9: I'm telling my side.
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: Let me be, find a solution. Right? That's the work.
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: Find a solution together.
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: Just in couples therapy with him in the books, Giannis
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: went on to say, I've never seen A case of
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: my caliber player saying it publicly. I want to F
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: him play. You know what I'm saying. I don't think
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: I've seen this. So if there needs to be an investigation, great.
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: There should be.
[1:05:57] Speaker 6: I don't know.
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: There should be until we figure something out. Giannis was
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: ruled out for the Bucks game against the Nets Tuesday.
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: In an interview with The Athletic's Eric Name, Bucks GM
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: John Horse said the following. He's not clear to play
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: yet in the game, and we're going to continue to
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: evaluate it. I don't know what the outcome in that
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: world will be, but the only lens has been to
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: make our best professional judgment for him And for us,
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with draft picks, nothing
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: to do with tanking, everything to do with the health
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: of the player. So the Bucs have told investigators that
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: Giannis declined the opportunity to play three-on-three scrimmages as a
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: part of his return protocol from his knee injury. Giannis
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: has told the NBA that he's healthy enough to return
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: to action. Regardless, obviously, Mr. B, one of the motivating
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: factors is Giannis' desire to play with his brothers, Alex
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: and Thanasis. who made history as the first trio of
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: brothers to be on the same active NBA roster. I
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: think Alex got his first points recently. You were out
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: heavy in Milwaukee. I was out there a couple weeks ago.
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: Looked at Giannis working out before the game against the Clippers.
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: Looked like he was able, willing, ready to play in
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: that particular game. But, Mr. B, what's your reaction to
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: the messy situation going on with Giannis and the Bucs
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: right now?
[1:07:04] Speaker 6: I mean, well, both don't want to look like the
[1:07:07] Speaker 6: bad guy, but... No, they both look like the bad
[1:07:10] Speaker 6: guys right now. I mean, because they both can't figure
[1:07:12] Speaker 6: it out. I mean, he's healthy. I mean, he looked
[1:07:17] Speaker 6: healthy to me when I was out there and he
[1:07:19] Speaker 6: was working out to me. But they got a game
[1:07:22] Speaker 6: maybe Friday or something. You know, if I'm honest, I
[1:07:26] Speaker 6: would want to play with my brothers. I'm sure that
[1:07:27] Speaker 6: would be the last time they'll probably, you know, last
[1:07:30] Speaker 6: home game together. But it's just, you know, it's an
[1:07:34] Speaker 6: unfortunate situation because, you know, this should have been done
[1:07:38] Speaker 6: behind closed doors. Um, I don't think both, I think
[1:07:41] Speaker 6: both sides, I mean, I think the fans and everybody,
[1:07:43] Speaker 6: they understand, you know, what it is. I mean, this
[1:07:46] Speaker 6: is a guy who brought a championship, you know, to
[1:07:48] Speaker 6: the city in 50 years. So, you know, he's done
[1:07:50] Speaker 6: his job. Uh, John horse, you know, John Hammond, you know,
[1:07:54] Speaker 6: who drafted him, he drafted me also. Um, you know,
[1:07:57] Speaker 6: he knew what he was doing and, you know, Giannis,
[1:07:59] Speaker 6: Giannis checked off everything that you can, that you can
[1:08:02] Speaker 6: think of that as, as a Milwaukee bug player. So, um,
[1:08:06] Speaker 6: hopefully they figure it out. Um, You know, if Giannis
[1:08:09] Speaker 6: wants to play and this is somebody that you want
[1:08:11] Speaker 6: to come back, I would let him play. But it's
[1:08:14] Speaker 6: definitely going to have to be some changes being made
[1:08:17] Speaker 6: from top to bottom. But that's just between the monkey
[1:08:20] Speaker 6: bucks in this situation. But it is ugly and it's
[1:08:24] Speaker 6: unfortunate right now.
[1:08:25] Speaker 4: It's between who?
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: Him?
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: No, he's at it publicly.
[1:08:29] Speaker 6: It's us. It's everybody.
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: Couples therapy.
[1:08:32] Speaker 1: He put everybody. I mean, yeah, now it's publicly. But, yeah,
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
[1:08:39] Speaker 6: It's unfortunate.
[1:08:43] Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: Why do you love it, Gil?
[1:08:47] Speaker 4: Because it proves over and over that load management was
[1:08:55] Speaker 4: never part of a player's DNA. It has always been
[1:08:59] Speaker 4: the upper. management and they've been getting called out over
[1:09:03] Speaker 4: and over but nobody tends to listen. And what Giannis
[1:09:09] Speaker 4: said is he's the only superstar to publicly come out
[1:09:13] Speaker 4: and say something, you know, because he has the advantage
[1:09:16] Speaker 4: right now because, you know, right? So, Listen, it's business.
[1:09:23] Speaker 4: We're looking for people. I don't care what they say.
[1:09:26] Speaker 4: The rules change next year. Everything still is applied this year.
[1:09:29] Speaker 4: We tank this year. We get one of these.
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: Nice little phenoms that's coming in. What's the name?
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: We're good. We have something moving forward. So I'm not
[1:09:39] Speaker 4: going to mess that up. Letting you come in here
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: and play, put us in the play-in game. We win
[1:09:43] Speaker 4: the play-in game. Now we're in the playoffs. Now we're
[1:09:46] Speaker 4: the eighth seed. And now we got the 16th pick
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: with the sorry-ass team. No, that's not what we're going
[1:09:51] Speaker 4: to do.
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: You're going to sit over there.
[1:09:53] Speaker 4: You're going to let the masses and what's the other one? Alex.
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: Alex.
[1:09:58] Speaker 4: Oh, he got a regular name. Alex.
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: He must be the oldest one.
[1:10:02] Speaker 6: No, he's the youngest.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: He's the youngest. Yeah, he's the youngest. Oh, it's the Nassus, Giannis.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: They're Americanized.
[1:10:07] Speaker 4: We got Americanized, Alex. All right, so I know you
[1:10:11] Speaker 4: want to play with them.
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: Cool, right? I'm Alexandros. Okay, there we go. There we go.
[1:10:16] Speaker 1: There we go, Greco. But obviously, this is about the future.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: You're this far into where you guys are. You might
[1:10:27] Speaker 1: as well just continue to sink in. There's no point
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: of we already halfway. You know, the boat is already
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: halfway to the bottom. There ain't no point of trying
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: to patch it up now.
[1:10:36] Speaker 4: Now, if you want to play there because you want
[1:10:38] Speaker 4: to play with your brother, cool.
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: Come on, let's go. All three of y'all start. Run
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: up and down. Sup? Get them out. This Friday. Get
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: them out. This Friday.
[1:10:49] Speaker 6: Yeah, we can do it this Friday. I'm taking them out.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: I'm going to play them for one. I'm going to
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: piss them off.
[1:10:53] Speaker 4: Play them one minute. Sup?
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: Mr.
[1:10:55] Speaker 4: Stats up since you want to be out there so much.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: You want to.
[1:11:01] Speaker 4: Run out there with your mouth. I'm going to say, oh,
[1:11:02] Speaker 4: it still look bruised. It still look bruised, bone bruised. Because,
[1:11:06] Speaker 4: you know, it's a bone bruise. That means you can
[1:11:08] Speaker 4: only see if it's healed through MRI. You can't tell
[1:11:12] Speaker 4: me it's fixed.
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: MRI said it's still there.
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: You took my point. He can say how he feel
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: all he want.
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:11:23] Speaker 3: That MRI is saying something different. You see this spot
[1:11:26] Speaker 3: right here? In the MRI, you see.
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: This spot right here?
[1:11:28] Speaker 6: That spot that they put there.
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: That spot say you ain't healthy. That spot. Hey, trust me.
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: Bone group, dog.
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: He can say he feel good all he want.
[1:11:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? Yeah. The MRI telling them people, if it's
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: saying he healthy or it ain't healthy, They going with
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: the medical thing, right? That's why they use the key
[1:11:45] Speaker 1: word in that. He is not cleared. He's not cleared.
[1:11:48] Speaker 1: He didn't want to play three on three. He didn't
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: want to play. So he is not cleared. Come run
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: these three.
[1:11:53] Speaker 3: So we can continue down this path, right? They have
[1:11:58] Speaker 3: 31 wins on the season. It's no guarantee of a
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: top 10 pick, right?
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: They get the lesser of theirs in the Pelicans picks
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: or Pelicans picks. We traded that pick to the Hawks
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: for Derrick Queen, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, that was
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: a good pick. So they get the lowest between who? Potentially.
[1:12:16] Speaker 1: The lowest between that. So that should be top three,
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: top five. They should be top ten. Maybe. Yeah, I'm
[1:12:21] Speaker 1: just saying. Maybe.
[1:12:23] Speaker 4: Listen, if you in the top ten this year, you
[1:12:25] Speaker 4: should get someone good.
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't be thinking that the same shit
[1:12:28] Speaker 3: going to happen to the Mavericks last year. You got
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: a one, half a percent chance, and you get the
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: number one pick.
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: You can't.
[1:12:34] Speaker 1: Rely on that. Right? But small market team, it may
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: get a little.
[1:12:38] Speaker 2: Pelicans get the number one pick. They keep it, right?
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: I think it goes to the Hawks.
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: It goes to the Hawks?
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. So either way it goes. And then the Bucs
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: would keep their pick. Now, if the Bucs get the
[1:12:47] Speaker 1: number one pick, it goes to the Hawks.
[1:12:49] Speaker 4: So whoever gets the number one pick between the Bucs
[1:12:52] Speaker 4: and the New Orleans, it goes to the Hawks?
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: Whoever gets the higher pick, that goes to the Hawks.
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: And then the Bucs would get the less favorable pick.
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: So to B's point, right? Everybody look bad in this situation.
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: There's no win in this situation right now. Right?
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: Because there's no guarantees. It's not like the NFL. You
[1:13:08] Speaker 3: know what you're going to pick. You finish certain records.
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: You got 12, 8, 6 wins. You're going to pick 5.
[1:13:17] Speaker 3: You got 4 wins. You're going to pick 2.
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: It ain't like that.
[1:13:20] Speaker 2: Proper tanking. Yeah. You can do that in the NFL.
[1:13:23] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: This is not that. So, it's a nasty game. It's
[1:13:29] Speaker 3: a nasty divorce going on, right? People slinging mud now, right? Giannis,
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: he feel he needs to defend himself. The Bucks feel
[1:13:37] Speaker 3: they need to defend themselves. So I see a nasty
[1:13:41] Speaker 3: ending coming this summer, right? And that's them parting ways.
[1:13:46] Speaker 3: There's no coming back from it.
[1:13:48] Speaker 6: But if it's nasty, it's between them, not the fans.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: I don't think the fans.
[1:13:52] Speaker 6: I think the fans are happy just whatever happens just happens.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: Because the fans.
[1:13:57] Speaker 6: Listen, the fans already love Giannis for what he done.
[1:14:01] Speaker 6: So it's not that. So they just want him to
[1:14:02] Speaker 6: be happy and you know, whatever it is. I don't
[1:14:05] Speaker 6: think the fans would be like, oh, man, like he traded. No, no, no.
[1:14:08] Speaker 1: The fans ain't going to be tripping. I believe that.
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, they're not going to
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: be tripping.
[1:14:12] Speaker 6: They're not going to turn on Giannis.
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: It's like my situation when I left the Nets.
[1:14:15] Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not.
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: It ain't him. Yeah, it ain't you. Well, we want him.
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: He want his money, but he want to play. It
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: ain't him.
[1:14:22] Speaker 6: So if anything get nasty, it's just going to be between.
[1:14:24] Speaker 3: The fans are collateral damage in this now. The Bucs
[1:14:27] Speaker 3: fans are collateral damage in this situation. It's very unfortunate. But, yeah,
[1:14:33] Speaker 3: the writing's on the wall, man. It's time for him
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: to move around. It's time for him to find his
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: peace again and go out and do what he loves doing,
[1:14:42] Speaker 3: and it's competing at a high level.
[1:14:44] Speaker 1: And you know he's going to do that. So, yeah,
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: let's just get it done, man. Let's shift over to you, Skip.
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: This Giannis situation has been going on for a while now.
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: Shams dropped an article yesterday detailing a lot of stuff
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: that we already knew, but essentially that Giannis and his
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: crew behind the scenes have been saying, look, it's time
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: to move on. Get me out of here. I'll never
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: publicly request a trade or try to embarrass a franchise,
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: but get me out of here, New York. Knicks were
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: reportedly his favorite or his preferred destination, the only spot
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: he was going to. So when you see this situation
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: going on with Giannis and the Bucs, now he's made
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: comments all season, even last summer. Maybe I'll stay. Maybe
[1:15:20] Speaker 1: I'll go. Maybe I can go to Denver. Maybe I
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: can go here. But what do you make of this
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: messy situation with Giannis?
[1:15:25] Speaker 5: I read every word of Shum's piece. It was well done.
[1:15:28] Speaker 5: Learned a lot. I'm sure Brandon already knows all of
[1:15:31] Speaker 5: the above. or below, it's all via below, right? This
[1:15:37] Speaker 5: is just what's hard for me to believe, that the
[1:15:40] Speaker 5: Milwaukee Bucks in five years have gone from NBA champions
[1:15:46] Speaker 5: to maybe the biggest mess I can remember in the
[1:15:51] Speaker 5: history of the NBA, because it's not a funny mess,
[1:15:54] Speaker 5: it's a sorry, nasty mess, as you just said. It's ugly,
[1:15:59] Speaker 5: personal mess, and it's hard to believe it got to
[1:16:02] Speaker 5: this point, although I'm not trying to put you on
[1:16:05] Speaker 5: the hot seat here, but when Jimmy Haslam gets involved
[1:16:09] Speaker 5: with a team, as he has been with the Cleveland
[1:16:11] Speaker 5: Browns and the National Football League, it turns toward clown
[1:16:16] Speaker 5: show to me, and he's heavily involved in this one.
[1:16:19] Speaker 5: So to your point, Joe, about the offseason, he made
[1:16:25] Speaker 5: it clear, I want to go to the Knicks. And
[1:16:28] Speaker 5: they said, well, give us one more shot. We're going
[1:16:30] Speaker 5: to send Dame back to Portland and we're going to
[1:16:34] Speaker 5: go get Miles Turner. And they did.
[1:16:36] Speaker 1: OK.
[1:16:37] Speaker 5: And Giannis says, OK, I'll try it. And they immediately
[1:16:40] Speaker 5: fall to nine and 13 right out of the gate.
[1:16:43] Speaker 5: And he's like, that's it. And his agent goes to him.
[1:16:46] Speaker 5: His agent also named Alex from Greece. Alex.
[1:16:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:16:50] Speaker 5: And and they just say, OK, that's enough. Nine and 13.
[1:16:55] Speaker 5: Get us get us out.
[1:16:56] Speaker 1: We want out.
[1:16:57] Speaker 5: And the trade deadline gets closer and closer. And everybody
[1:17:00] Speaker 5: obviously wants Giannis. And the Heat make their best offer.
[1:17:04] Speaker 5: And the Timberwolves and the Golden State Warriors. Everybody is clamoring.
[1:17:09] Speaker 5: I think everybody in the league made an offer for
[1:17:11] Speaker 5: Giannis at the trade deadline. And your GM Horst, according
[1:17:17] Speaker 5: to everybody around the league through Shams, he wouldn't return
[1:17:22] Speaker 5: phone calls.
[1:17:22] Speaker 1: It's like.
[1:17:23] Speaker 5: the owners are saying, oh, screw him. You know, just
[1:17:26] Speaker 5: make him wait. Make him sweat because we'll just hang
[1:17:29] Speaker 5: on to his ass for the rest of the year.
[1:17:31] Speaker 5: That's how it came across to me. That we're just
[1:17:33] Speaker 5: going to hold, we'll just make him sweat for the last,
[1:17:37] Speaker 5: whatever it is, three months of the season. And they're
[1:17:40] Speaker 5: mathematically eliminated on March 28th and And now, remember, Giannis
[1:17:46] Speaker 5: has been hurt five times this year. And I think
[1:17:49] Speaker 5: they're like legit injuries until now. I'm not sure about
[1:17:52] Speaker 5: this one. But the previous four, he was hurt. I'm
[1:17:56] Speaker 5: pretty sure because it was his choice to say, I'm hurt,
[1:17:58] Speaker 5: I can't go. And with him on the floor this year,
[1:18:02] Speaker 5: they're 17 and 19. So they're two games under. 500
[1:18:06] Speaker 5: with Giannis playing basketball for them. So everything is wrong
[1:18:10] Speaker 5: about this. And to Brandon's initial point, It's like everybody's
[1:18:15] Speaker 5: the bad guy. It's hard to say, it's his fault. No,
[1:18:19] Speaker 5: it's all their fault because it got personal. And it
[1:18:24] Speaker 5: got so messy personal that now we get to what's happening.
[1:18:30] Speaker 5: And to your point, he does want to play to
[1:18:33] Speaker 5: play with his brothers. I get that. And yet, There
[1:18:38] Speaker 5: are two other things operating here. He's got a Nike
[1:18:40] Speaker 5: deal that pays him off if he plays 41 plus.
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: Games, and he ain't gonna get there. He did not
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: get there.
[1:18:47] Speaker 5: Okay, so that's a big chunk of money. that he's
[1:18:50] Speaker 5: not happy about losing. And then finally, it appears to
[1:18:54] Speaker 5: me it got so personal, he actually wants to play
[1:18:57] Speaker 5: to try to win games to damage their ping pong
[1:18:59] Speaker 5: ball chances. Like he wants to play to screw them.
[1:19:03] Speaker 5: I'm going to win games and screw these people because
[1:19:07] Speaker 5: they wouldn't let me leave twice in the offseason at
[1:19:10] Speaker 5: the trade deadline. And it's just, it's hard to believe.
[1:19:13] Speaker 5: And it feels like Giannis has lost heart. Doc's on
[1:19:17] Speaker 5: his way out. And I love Doc. But man, this
[1:19:20] Speaker 5: team has completely quit Just quit, quit, quit on everybody.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: Call them to check his resume. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: But from the beginning, right? When they fired Boone Hoser, right?
[1:19:32] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: We all was like, what y'all do that for?
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: Right? Yep.
[1:19:38] Speaker 2: Like, what y'all do that for?
[1:19:39] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:19:40] Speaker 2: And it's been downhill since.
[1:19:41] Speaker 4: It has.
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: It has been a shit show since they fired Mike Boone.
[1:19:45] Speaker 5: They've lost in the first round three straight years of
[1:19:47] Speaker 5: the playoffs. Three straight first round exits, just for the record.
[1:19:50] Speaker 5: I mean, that's how bad it is.
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: He has a lot to do with that.
[1:19:52] Speaker 2: He hasn't been hurt.
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: There's been a lot of changes. Coaches, owners, Peter's gone.
[1:19:56] Speaker 6: It's a lot of stuff.
[1:19:57] Speaker 2: The only thing that.
[1:19:58] Speaker 6: Worries me is with the Bucs, they're superstars that don't
[1:20:00] Speaker 6: come back. I just wonder what what really goes on
[1:20:12] Speaker 6: with the, you know, the big dogs, the Ray Allens,
[1:20:14] Speaker 6: the Kareems, the, the, the big O's. And it's just like,
[1:20:18] Speaker 6: you know, like there's, there are core superstars, the guys who,
[1:20:21] Speaker 6: who helped the city, like who, who it is, you know,
[1:20:24] Speaker 6: they don't come back. And it's just kind of like,
[1:20:26] Speaker 6: you know, it's kind of like, you know, like I don't,
[1:20:28] Speaker 6: I don't want to see this same situation happen with Giannis,
[1:20:30] Speaker 6: the guy who, you know what I'm saying?
[1:20:33] Speaker 1: 50 years without a championship.
[1:20:34] Speaker 6: And now, you know, he's looking at, oh, I don't
[1:20:36] Speaker 6: ever want to come back.
[1:20:37] Speaker 1: To the city.
[1:20:37] Speaker 6: It's like, man, you built this. Like, this is you. Like,
[1:20:40] Speaker 6: this whole new arena and everything. And it's just, you know,
[1:20:43] Speaker 6: that's where it's looking like.
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:20:44] Speaker 2: It's how you treat it while you're there.
[1:20:46] Speaker 6: You know, and it's just like, damn, like, you know,
[1:20:48] Speaker 6: I just hope they can figure it out, you know,
[1:20:50] Speaker 6: in a way because, I mean, this guy has a
[1:20:53] Speaker 6: store right across the street from the damn arena. Anytime you, like,
[1:20:56] Speaker 6: go into a very big store, like, you know, it's
[1:20:58] Speaker 6: just like, you know.
[1:20:59] Speaker 4: You said one thing that they said, Skip said it.
[1:21:01] Speaker 4: You said, uh, They're sweating him out. What do you think?
[1:21:09] Speaker 4: You're sweating out who?
[1:21:11] Speaker 2: That's what they think.
[1:21:12] Speaker 4: Every team wants him.
[1:21:14] Speaker 2: There's no sweat.
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: On him. The problem becomes you guys because I don't
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: think you're understanding how chess plays. You're going to get
[1:21:27] Speaker 4: your best options now before tread.
[1:21:32] Speaker 6: Everyone's dumb. Agreed.
[1:21:34] Speaker 4: Everyone's trying to win.
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: I'm going to give you here, here, here. You three go.
[1:21:39] Speaker 4: They don't know what they're giving up. They're not thinking.
[1:21:42] Speaker 4: They're giving you the best options. So you say, we
[1:21:46] Speaker 4: don't want none of those. We're going to wait until
[1:21:48] Speaker 4: the summer. Now you have to be a genius in
[1:21:51] Speaker 4: negotiation because I have all the summer. I get to
[1:21:55] Speaker 4: sit back, relax. I get to really look. I get
[1:21:57] Speaker 4: to really look at what you're putting. I get to
[1:22:00] Speaker 4: look and see what I want now. Now I almost
[1:22:04] Speaker 4: gave you these two pieces. Now we're going to take
[1:22:06] Speaker 4: that off the table. Because now you have to get
[1:22:10] Speaker 4: rid of them. Now we're going to play, all of
[1:22:12] Speaker 4: us are going to play the waiting game on you.
[1:22:14] Speaker 4: You was playing it on Giannis. We're going to play
[1:22:16] Speaker 4: it on you because we don't have to give you nothing.
[1:22:19] Speaker 5: Okay, but they didn't want Giannis to go somewhere this
[1:22:22] Speaker 5: June and win a championship despite them, right? I'm sorry, what.
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: The hell did I got to do with y'all? If
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: he goes and wins a championship... But he's that good.
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
[1:22:33] Speaker 4: How does that help you? You still got to think
[1:22:35] Speaker 4: about you. It's your team moving forward. It's my organization.
[1:22:39] Speaker 4: I don't care if you go win a championship. Did
[1:22:42] Speaker 4: I get back pieces for me to build my team?
[1:22:45] Speaker 4: Because obviously if you're that good, you won one here.
[1:22:49] Speaker 4: So if you go team up with another superstar, I'm
[1:22:52] Speaker 4: pretty sure you're going to win another championship. So how
[1:22:55] Speaker 4: does that? affect me and my... It's an ego play.
[1:22:59] Speaker 5: Personal.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: It's like the.
[1:23:00] Speaker 3: PG thing with Oklahoma City going to the Clippers with
[1:23:03] Speaker 3: Shea and all.
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: It's like that, right?
[1:23:05] Speaker 6: It's... Yeah, but why does it get to that? Like,
[1:23:10] Speaker 6: why does it have to even get to that?
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: Ego.
[1:23:12] Speaker 6: I mean, I know, but why we just can't be like, yo, listen, man,
[1:23:16] Speaker 6: you did what you did for here. Yo, I thank everybody.
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: Boom, boom, boom.
[1:23:18] Speaker 6: Let's just go our way. Like, because at the end
[1:23:20] Speaker 6: of the day, they all won.
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: Like, both won.
[1:23:23] Speaker 6: They got the championship for the.
[1:23:25] Speaker 1: City, right?
[1:23:25] Speaker 3: It ain't the same owners or the same people that
[1:23:28] Speaker 3: drafted it.
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: It's not the same people.
[1:23:31] Speaker 4: They're not invested in it.
[1:23:32] Speaker 2: So they're not invested at all.
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: They didn't build that championship. They don't care.
[1:23:36] Speaker 6: Yeah, but why would I invest in something and not be...
[1:23:40] Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? This is what I'm investing.
[1:23:41] Speaker 6: I'm investing to the whole history.
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: Everything.
[1:23:43] Speaker 6: From the jump. It's a toy for them. I know,
[1:23:47] Speaker 6: but if I'm buying a team, if I'm buying a team,
[1:23:49] Speaker 6: I want the whole history.
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: But you're not buying history unless you're buying the Lakers,
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Yankees, the Red Sox, or the Patriots.
[1:23:57] Speaker 4: Every NBA team is history.
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: You're not buying history unless you're buying that.
[1:24:01] Speaker 2: They got two championships in their existence, right?
[1:24:03] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:24:04] Speaker 2: You're not buying that. It's a shiny new toy.
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: You got a brand new Bugatti, right?
[1:24:09] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:24:10] Speaker 3: And I'm a street racer. I'm not a collector. I'm
[1:24:13] Speaker 3: a motherfucking drag. I'm fast and furious out this bitch.
[1:24:16] Speaker 3: This is what they doing now. This is play shit
[1:24:19] Speaker 3: for them. This ain't... If the people that drafted Giannis
[1:24:23] Speaker 3: and had the team that owned the team when Giannis was... Now,
[1:24:27] Speaker 3: this shit would be handled way different. Those people will
[1:24:32] Speaker 3: respect his wishes. Listen, you know what, man? You've done
[1:24:34] Speaker 3: so much for us, man. You brought us a championship,
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: did this. We're going to make sure you go land
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: on your feet here. It ain't that, unfortunately. For the
[1:24:43] Speaker 3: people of Milwaukee and for the fans, it ain't that, unfortunately.
[1:24:46] Speaker 1: Let me play devil's advocate here just because it seems
[1:24:48] Speaker 1: like everything is put on the bucks, but Giannis had
[1:24:51] Speaker 1: to have some understanding and knowledge of the moves that
[1:24:53] Speaker 1: were being made. He was cool with Budenhoser getting booted.
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: Listen.
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: He won a day. Listen, if.
[1:25:01] Speaker 4: You have a job, right? Your job is your job, right?
[1:25:04] Speaker 4: You're supposed to.
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: Be scout and talent. I have an opinion.
[1:25:10] Speaker 4: We played basketball in the summer together. We work well together.
[1:25:14] Speaker 4: I would like him on a team, right? You're supposed
[1:25:17] Speaker 4: to still do your research on if we actually fit
[1:25:20] Speaker 4: in the NBA game with the NBA coaches' plays. Because
[1:25:23] Speaker 4: the plays we did at the LA Fitness all summer,
[1:25:27] Speaker 4: that ain't part of our playbook.
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: But I do like them. We cool, right? That's my opinion.
[1:25:32] Speaker 4: Now you have to do your job. To see if
[1:25:36] Speaker 4: it all matches up. So you telling me come get
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: Dame and all that, we don't know. You know what
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: I mean? We don't know what it's going to look
[1:25:46] Speaker 4: like until you put it on the court.
[1:25:47] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:25:48] Speaker 4: That's how that works.
[1:25:50] Speaker 6: But Boone still got a top 75 dude to.
[1:25:52] Speaker 4: Come, though. But just like Dallas and Luka, right? It
[1:26:00] Speaker 4: was easy for that owner to get rid of him.
[1:26:03] Speaker 4: I don't know him. I have no relationship with him.
[1:26:08] Speaker 4: We never had lunch or dinner or none of this.
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: All I know is he's the hot shot. He's talking
[1:26:14] Speaker 4: back to me.
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: I don't like him.
[1:26:16] Speaker 4: Get him out of here.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: All I hear is don't play defense.
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: He's fat. He's this. He's that.
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: He's an asshole.
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: But you know who his guy is? Cooper Flagg.
[1:26:26] Speaker 4: I drafted him.
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: That's my guy. Right? So that's how that works.
[1:26:31] Speaker 4: When you come into something, you're bringing your own people in.
[1:26:34] Speaker 4: You don't give a fuck about the other people. I
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: don't have no history with them. Right? So you're like, okay, yeah,
[1:26:40] Speaker 4: y'all built a little shit here.
[1:26:41] Speaker 1: Cool.
[1:26:41] Speaker 4: Let me get rid of them. Let me put my
[1:26:43] Speaker 4: two cents on it, and we're going to see what
[1:26:45] Speaker 4: I can do.
[1:26:45] Speaker 3: You're like, you can go to new teams, and they
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: can vouch for certain coaches. Hey, man, this guy has
[1:26:49] Speaker 3: a life where he's here.
[1:26:51] Speaker 4: Hey.
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: He's not my guy.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: He's not my guy. He's not my guy, right?
[1:26:56] Speaker 3: Just like kids coming in to transfer a porter and
[1:26:59] Speaker 3: all that.
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: Hey, I ain't recruit you.
[1:27:01] Speaker 3: I ain't recruit you, so you feel free to follow him.
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: Follow your coach.
[1:27:08] Speaker 3: I didn't recruit you, so it's unfortunate. I'm going to
[1:27:12] Speaker 3: go get my guy. I'm going to go get my guy.
[1:27:13] Speaker 1: I'm going to go get my guy. Deion with his
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: son and the quarterback, right?
[1:27:18] Speaker 4: Oh.
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: They had a quarterback in Colorado when Deion took the job.
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: You know what he told him?
[1:27:23] Speaker 3: Hey, I'm bringing my Louie with me.
[1:27:27] Speaker 1: You got Louie. Right? I got Louie luggage. I'm bringing
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: my Louie with me.
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: Yep.
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: And that Louie wore number two when he played quarterback. So, hey,
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: you're nice. You've been here. Hit that portal.
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: I'm going to need you to get in that P, baby.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: Quickly.
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: Right now.
[1:27:42] Speaker 1: Yeah. You ain't did it yet. Them spots is getting
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: filled up. I bet you don't. No, it's that, man.
[1:27:48] Speaker 2: It's unfortunate. But we are here.
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: So let's talk about now the future with the future
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: host for both sides. Obviously, like I said, Giannis' comments
[1:27:55] Speaker 1: have been very pointed at the Bucs for the bulk
[1:27:57] Speaker 1: of this season. Say it. Say it. What?
[1:28:00] Speaker 2: Say it.
[1:28:01] Speaker 1: No.
[1:28:01] Speaker 6: Say it.
[1:28:03] Speaker 4: No.
[1:28:03] Speaker 1: Lakers? No.
[1:28:04] Speaker 2: Say it.
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: Say it. Lakers?
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: Say it. Speak it.
[1:28:09] Speaker 4: Talk it.
[1:28:10] Speaker 1: Where he going? Right? Well, that's not the conversation we
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: need to have.
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: Sacramento.
[1:28:16] Speaker 1: It's Chauvin. So Sean's article, Bucks had the opportunity to
[1:28:20] Speaker 1: move Giannis for the deadline. Seriously considered to trade with
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: the Heat, which would have centered on Tyler Hero, I
[1:28:26] Speaker 1: believe is from Milwaukee, Khalil Ware, other players, multiple draft picks,
[1:28:29] Speaker 1: pick swaps. Seems like a very good offer. Owners should
[1:28:32] Speaker 1: believe the best move would be to hold on to
[1:28:34] Speaker 1: Giannis to receive better offers in the summer. Gil, like
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: you pointed out, not making that move with the deadline.
[1:28:39] Speaker 1: They want to hold on. He's eligible for an extension
[1:28:41] Speaker 1: in October, which will give a lot more insight into
[1:28:44] Speaker 1: what he wants to do.
[1:28:46] Speaker 4: But there's only a few teams that will have super
[1:28:51] Speaker 4: max money.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Do you know any of those teams off the top
[1:28:55] Speaker 1: of your head? One is the Lakers.
[1:28:57] Speaker 4: Oh.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: The Lakers, okay.
[1:28:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, we got Supermax money because one, LeBron Supermax is
[1:29:02] Speaker 4: coming off, and Luka never signed a Supermax to replace LeBron.
[1:29:05] Speaker 3: And if you got to pick between Giannis and AR,
[1:29:07] Speaker 3: I think you pick Giannis.
[1:29:09] Speaker 4: You very well may be able to have both. I'm
[1:29:11] Speaker 4: going to pick Giannis. He's going to be in the Supermax,
[1:29:13] Speaker 4: and then, hey, LeBron, if you want to come back.
[1:29:16] Speaker 5: So AR is gone. AR is gone. Is LeBron gone?
[1:29:21] Speaker 2: So, so.
[1:29:22] Speaker 4: I think Brown took the page. No, so this is
[1:29:23] Speaker 4: how it works. So, it's like, kind of like, think
[1:29:26] Speaker 4: about like Golden State, right? When Curry signed.
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: That $ 64 million deal, right?
[1:29:32] Speaker 4: Then you had, which is your best player, but because
[1:29:35] Speaker 4: of his ankles, they got him to sign this deal before,
[1:29:39] Speaker 4: I think he signed it in October, before that season
[1:29:42] Speaker 4: started with the healthy ankle.
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: Before for 44 something, right?
[1:29:44] Speaker 4: So, he signed that deal. Then Steph becomes Steph and
[1:29:48] Speaker 4: Golden State becomes Golden State. KD's up. they have no
[1:29:52] Speaker 4: max player under contract. So they're the only ones that
[1:29:56] Speaker 4: can actually go out there and give him that money, right,
[1:29:59] Speaker 4: without doing anything to their team. So here you have
[1:30:02] Speaker 4: $ 50 million a year coming off with LeBron, right?
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: Six. Huh? 56. 56.
[1:30:09] Speaker 4: Then with Luka, Luka getting traded, not hitting super max,
[1:30:14] Speaker 4: he don't replace LeBron with the 50, right? So he
[1:30:18] Speaker 4: falls under, like, option two. So he's like Jalen Brown.
[1:30:22] Speaker 4: With no Tatum money, right? So now we have... Brown
[1:30:25] Speaker 4: signed Supermax already.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: Huh? Brown and Tatum both are Supermax. That's something tripping, right? No,
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: he's like.
[1:30:29] Speaker 4: Brown is like a little bit under.
[1:30:31] Speaker 2: I thought they signed for $ 300. I thought they went
[1:30:33] Speaker 2: back to back. Back to back. Brown signed his first.
[1:30:36] Speaker 2: It was $ 300.
[1:30:36] Speaker 1: $ 300.
[1:30:36] Speaker 4: And then Tatum did what?
[1:30:39] Speaker 1: Supermax. But it was the next year, so the bread
[1:30:40] Speaker 1: went on.
[1:30:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you look at AR, you're like, oh, wait,
[1:30:45] Speaker 4: hold on. I got AR money and LeBron's money free.
[1:30:49] Speaker 4: I can give LeBron's money.
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:30:51] Speaker 4: To Giannis. Then I can say, hey, Bron, look, we
[1:30:55] Speaker 4: got Giannis and Luka.
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: We want you as the third option.
[1:30:58] Speaker 4: You want to take this AR $ 20, $ 30 million a year?
[1:31:02] Speaker 1: And I can then now have all three of them.
[1:31:04] Speaker 4: With the same money.
[1:31:05] Speaker 1: If Bron comes off the books, I think AR has
[1:31:07] Speaker 1: like a $ 27, $ 28 million cap hold on them right now.
[1:31:10] Speaker 1: So you take those two numbers out. So that's $ 78
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: million a year. But what do you trade through the
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: bucks to get, Giannis? I got Bronny Jr.
[1:31:17] Speaker 4: He's going to get the jerseys in there. One thing,
[1:31:23] Speaker 4: we don't really have no real good assets unless they
[1:31:26] Speaker 4: want to take Rui.
[1:31:29] Speaker 2: You got a few pieces.
[1:31:32] Speaker 3: It all depends on what they're doing. It depends on
[1:31:35] Speaker 3: what the Milwaukee Bucks are trying to do.
[1:31:38] Speaker 4: What are you trying to do?
[1:31:40] Speaker 1: Giannis can force the Bucks' hand on me.
[1:31:42] Speaker 2: I'm opting out next year.
[1:31:46] Speaker 1: You keep me on this team, I'm not gonna sign
[1:31:48] Speaker 1: an extension with any other team you trade me to.
[1:31:50] Speaker 1: But now? You know what I would do if I'm
[1:31:53] Speaker 1: the owner? Do it.
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: Call it bluff.
[1:31:57] Speaker 1: Do it. Like, I never understand signing trades.
[1:32:01] Speaker 4: I've never understood.
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: Like, as the player, yeah, sign and trade me.
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: Like, give me your max money and trade me to
[1:32:08] Speaker 4: the destination I want.
[1:32:10] Speaker 1: That's us.
[1:32:11] Speaker 4: As the organization... You really believe that I get six-year, 127-year,
[1:32:19] Speaker 4: and I'm going to go five-year, 95-year? You really think
[1:32:23] Speaker 4: I'm that dumb?
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
[1:32:28] Speaker 6: I will let you walk.
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: Go out there and sign.
[1:32:30] Speaker 4: It, big man. If you want to go there, it's
[1:32:35] Speaker 4: going to cost you $ 30, $ 40 million. And owners never
[1:32:41] Speaker 4: did that. Owners always did the sign and trade because
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: they want pieces back. And it's like, when LeBron and
[1:32:49] Speaker 4: Bosh did their deal, I would have said, all right,
[1:32:51] Speaker 4: both of y'all go. Let me see it. Let me
[1:32:53] Speaker 4: see y'all both take $ 85 million each.
[1:32:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not doing that.
[1:32:58] Speaker 4: I'm not going to sign you to my max to
[1:33:01] Speaker 4: then trade you to get some pieces back.
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: But is that bad business for an organization then? Because
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: now other people are looking at that. It's like, why
[1:33:07] Speaker 1: do I want to come play here and get did like?
[1:33:09] Speaker 2: You're like, well, you left.
[1:33:10] Speaker 1: All right. You left. You opted out. You opted out.
[1:33:15] Speaker 1: You was free to go do whatever you wanted to do.
[1:33:18] Speaker 4: So it's part of the game, but you're giving the
[1:33:21] Speaker 4: player everything he wants if you're going to sign and
[1:33:23] Speaker 4: trade him because you're scared to just lose him for nothing.
[1:33:27] Speaker 6: Skip, what do you think?
[1:33:27] Speaker 5: Okay, so you can afford to pay Giannis, but you
[1:33:32] Speaker 5: can't pay for Giannis because you don't have enough to
[1:33:34] Speaker 5: pay for him as in assets, as in draft picks
[1:33:40] Speaker 5: that would be the kind that Milwaukee would say yes to.
[1:33:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, we the opposite of Draymond Green in that skit.
[1:33:48] Speaker 4: We got $ 100 million cash. We don't need the assets.
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: We got it liquid.
[1:33:52] Speaker 4: Oh, y'all didn't see it?
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: I did watch AD's show. Who has $ 100 million liquid?
[1:33:57] Speaker 1: We do.
[1:33:57] Speaker 4: Because we can pay him cash.
[1:33:58] Speaker 1: We don't got no assets to give him.
[1:34:00] Speaker 4: Right? It's one of those things where it's like if
[1:34:06] Speaker 4: we got to trade pieces, And you really like you
[1:34:10] Speaker 4: can pick.
[1:34:12] Speaker 1: You can pick.
[1:34:13] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just going to tell you, it's not
[1:34:15] Speaker 4: what you want over here.
[1:34:16] Speaker 1: I don't know if I got anything that excites you
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: over here.
[1:34:19] Speaker 6: You got to bring in another team.
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: You got to bring in another team.
[1:34:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, unless we bring in, you know, a team and,
[1:34:24] Speaker 4: you know, it's.
[1:34:25] Speaker 6: Because Milwaukee not finished. Yeah, because this damn show. But
[1:34:27] Speaker 6: Milwaukee ain't just getting. Like anything, like they're going to
[1:34:30] Speaker 6: get something back. But the problem is there's only a
[1:34:32] Speaker 6: few teams. You think so? They don't know what they're doing.
[1:34:35] Speaker 6: I mean, okay, so what you said.
[1:34:36] Speaker 2: If they knew what they're doing, they wouldn't have this
[1:34:38] Speaker 2: situation this way.
[1:34:39] Speaker 6: So you said there's three teams, right? I mean, there's
[1:34:41] Speaker 6: only a couple teams that got the Supermax.
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: Lakers, who else?
[1:34:44] Speaker 2: Knicks?
[1:34:45] Speaker 1: No. Who? Oh, no, no, no. Yes. Brooklyn.
[1:34:48] Speaker 4: No, no, because Brunson gave them a friendly deal.
[1:34:52] Speaker 1: Philly, too.
[1:34:53] Speaker 4: You can come off the couch. Philly took a lot
[1:34:56] Speaker 4: of what MB's new contract.
[1:34:59] Speaker 2: What, the 180?
[1:35:00] Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't sign the supermax. Yeah, he signed under
[1:35:03] Speaker 4: that supermax.
[1:35:04] Speaker 2: But it was an extension on that.
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: Yeah. Was it?
[1:35:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, he signed for 180. It was three for 180,
[1:35:10] Speaker 2: so he took it.
[1:35:11] Speaker 1: So let me look briefly, just a brief survey.
[1:35:14] Speaker 2: It was three for 180.
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: So Clippers would have the bread. Okay. Brooklyn. Washington.
[1:35:21] Speaker 4: I think Hawks potentially.
[1:35:24] Speaker 1: Bulls. Bulls? You said Bulls? Yeah, Nets. Potentially Grizzlies, Jazz, Bulls, Pistons.
[1:35:34] Speaker 4: He's going right down the street.
[1:35:37] Speaker 1: Chicago?
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: He's going right down the street. What I do know
[1:35:40] Speaker 4: about Giannis, and he sees it, he's very in tune
[1:35:46] Speaker 4: with how everything works. Nike contract, Disney. He knows him,
[1:35:52] Speaker 4: his brand, in a big market is booming business. He
[1:35:57] Speaker 4: knows that shoe contract.
[1:35:59] Speaker 1: Chicago, for sure, with them colors.
[1:36:01] Speaker 4: He's going to want to land in L.A., New York,
[1:36:04] Speaker 4: or Chicago for sure.
[1:36:07] Speaker 2: Not Brooklyn?
[1:36:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, Brooklyn.
[1:36:11] Speaker 6: But Chicago with those colors, though?
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: I dig it.
[1:36:14] Speaker 5: Are you sure you would get MVP Giannis at age
[1:36:18] Speaker 5: 31 after 13 NBA years and three or four other
[1:36:23] Speaker 5: pro years before that? You sure you're going to get him?
[1:36:26] Speaker 5: He hadn't won an MVP since 2020, so it's been
[1:36:29] Speaker 5: six years. You sure you're going to get the finals
[1:36:32] Speaker 5: MVP in 21? Will he be that guy for you immediately?
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: Yes, I believe so.
[1:36:38] Speaker 2: Motivation.
[1:36:39] Speaker 5: 14th NBA season.
[1:36:40] Speaker 6: Motivation.
[1:36:43] Speaker 2: He cut from a different cloth. But I also say this.
[1:36:47] Speaker 3: We said on this couch, he has to change the
[1:36:51] Speaker 3: way he plays or he's going to continually get hurt.
[1:36:56] Speaker 1: True.
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: He will continuously.
[1:36:58] Speaker 3: Have the bump knees, the roll ankles. That will continue
[1:37:03] Speaker 3: to happen if he doesn't change how he plays to
[1:37:07] Speaker 3: a half-court, more controlled environment.
[1:37:12] Speaker 6: That's why we're saying he's got to change his game.
[1:37:15] Speaker 6: If you get that jump shot or whatever, it's just
[1:37:18] Speaker 6: something easier. You ain't got to.
[1:37:19] Speaker 1: Do all that.
[1:37:21] Speaker 3: All right, post up, put him on the blog, man.
[1:37:23] Speaker 3: He's too gifted, man, too strong, too athletic.
[1:37:27] Speaker 4: I don't know what MVP or finals MVP, what he
[1:37:33] Speaker 4: was doing. But these last six years for him to
[1:37:35] Speaker 4: lose it, we know who he's losing it to. We
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: know what they're doing. But, yeah, I don't mind taking
[1:37:41] Speaker 4: this 30 and 11 every year he bringing.
[1:37:44] Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I'll take that. If he brings
[1:37:46] Speaker 1: 60 from the field.
[1:37:48] Speaker 6: If he brings.
[1:37:49] Speaker 4: This, I'm going to be happy with it.
[1:37:52] Speaker 1: It don't have to be MVP. But if it's not
[1:37:55] Speaker 1: 30 and 11.
[1:37:57] Speaker 6: Do you think he'll have less injuries if he plays
[1:37:58] Speaker 6: with another superstar? It doesn't have to do as much
[1:38:01] Speaker 6: as he has to do now. So maybe he won't
[1:38:03] Speaker 6: have to change as much. Just having somebody else like,
[1:38:07] Speaker 6: you know.
[1:38:08] Speaker 2: He won't have a choice, I don't think.
[1:38:09] Speaker 4: It depends on who he's with.
[1:38:10] Speaker 2: It depends on how the other person plays.
[1:38:13] Speaker 6: With the Lakers.
[1:38:14] Speaker 1: With Luka.
[1:38:16] Speaker 4: With Luka?
[1:38:17] Speaker 6: Does he have to change his game?
[1:38:18] Speaker 1: With Luka, he... No.
[1:38:21] Speaker 4: He don't have to change his game, but he might
[1:38:23] Speaker 4: benefit from having Luka on his team. Because Luka gets
[1:38:27] Speaker 4: hit and gets fouled. and that will save him from
[1:38:32] Speaker 4: getting hit and fouled.
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: Right? People don't understand that is a very important thing. Right?
[1:38:39] Speaker 4: Like, let's say I have somebody like Brunson, right? For
[1:38:43] Speaker 4: Brunson to really be dangerous, that penalty has to take effect, too.
[1:38:48] Speaker 4: But I don't want him to get hit seven times
[1:38:51] Speaker 4: to then get to the penalty. So I would need
[1:38:53] Speaker 4: someone to take off the hits night after night after night.
[1:38:56] Speaker 4: So I need another crash dummy that can take, you're
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: going to take it like having a Corey Maggette on your.
[1:39:01] Speaker 1: Team, right? Oh my God. Right?
[1:39:02] Speaker 6: Oh my, you're going to leave?
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: What's his number?
[1:39:04] Speaker 4: What's his number? Ellen Brand is sitting there like, yeah,
[1:39:07] Speaker 4: all right, yeah, go ahead, get them hits. Now give
[1:39:09] Speaker 4: me the ball. Now you have to play me straight
[1:39:12] Speaker 4: up or I'm going to shoot free throws, right? And
[1:39:14] Speaker 4: I don't think people really calculate that. Mm-hmm. into someone's game.
[1:39:19] Speaker 4: And if Giannis can get with someone else who's going
[1:39:22] Speaker 4: to take hits away from him, he's.
[1:39:25] Speaker 1: Going to last longer.
[1:39:27] Speaker 4: Because now I can sit here and do all this.
[1:39:30] Speaker 4: You foul me, I get.
[1:39:30] Speaker 1: To walk to the free throw.
[1:39:34] Speaker 2: Line.
[1:39:34] Speaker 4: That's why LeBron James gets to sit at the three-point
[1:39:36] Speaker 4: line and he don't have to do no heavy lifting.
[1:39:39] Speaker 4: And then once they get in the penalty, that's when
[1:39:41] Speaker 4: he becomes a train. I'm just going to come in.
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: I'm going to do all that.
[1:39:49] Speaker 6: So if he goes to Chicago, I'm going to go.
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to do all that.
[1:39:54] Speaker 6: Same boat.
[1:39:54] Speaker 2: He'll have to average 33 next year.
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:39:59] Speaker 2: He'll be back in the MVP conversation.
[1:40:00] Speaker 1: He'll go there because he'll have to average 33 and 14.
[1:40:03] Speaker 4: What about the Knicks? Knicks for Cat, I mean, it
[1:40:05] Speaker 4: depends on if they keep for Cat. You got to
[1:40:08] Speaker 4: go somewhere they got pieces in place, man. If he's
[1:40:10] Speaker 4: trying to.
[1:40:10] Speaker 3: Compete and win and be able to do less, He
[1:40:15] Speaker 3: needs shooters and better pieces around him, right? And where
[1:40:20] Speaker 3: that will be, we don't know because I think things
[1:40:22] Speaker 3: are going to change this summer with all the movement
[1:40:24] Speaker 3: and all the tanking and the draft picks and people
[1:40:27] Speaker 3: trying to go get top fives because they think they're
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: going to be able to get A.J. You don't know
[1:40:35] Speaker 3: right now on what it's going to look like for A.J.
[1:40:38] Speaker 6: So this summer is all about Giannis? You know, every
[1:40:43] Speaker 6: summer is somebody, right? Every summer, it's that where they're going.
[1:40:46] Speaker 6: Is it Giannis this summer?
[1:40:48] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Especially now. What's funny
[1:40:52] Speaker 4: is July 1st, everything's going to be frozen for a
[1:40:55] Speaker 4: little bit.
[1:40:55] Speaker 1: Everybody's going to be waiting to see.
[1:40:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, I need my cap space. I need to adjust
[1:41:00] Speaker 4: because I need to make some moves.
[1:41:01] Speaker 6: All right, Giannis.
[1:41:05] Speaker 4: Whoever's going to trade for Giannis, if you don't have
[1:41:07] Speaker 4: the pieces, there's only one There's only one team that
[1:41:12] Speaker 4: has a bunch of potential players that are usable, that
[1:41:19] Speaker 4: are agile. That is Houston. Houston has a jam log
[1:41:23] Speaker 4: in the same type of position. which is 3-4-5, 2-3-1,
[1:41:28] Speaker 4: whatever this 6-9 to 6-11 is of these athletes that
[1:41:32] Speaker 4: I got.
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: Go ahead, what you thinking? Go ahead, what you thinking?
[1:41:37] Speaker 4: Let me hear it.
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: No, nothing.
[1:41:39] Speaker 4: So when I'm making, if I'm the Lakers and I'm
[1:41:41] Speaker 4: trying to make a trade, I want to add Houston
[1:41:44] Speaker 4: into it where I can use some of that talent
[1:41:48] Speaker 4: mix it in, and say, here you go, because they
[1:41:51] Speaker 4: have a bunch of 6'11.
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: 6'10, type of guys that.
[1:41:55] Speaker 4: Are wing players that I'm going to need to run
[1:41:57] Speaker 4: up and down.
[1:41:58] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:41:59] Speaker 4: I need to draft my guard. I need to drive, like,
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: I need to, whatever these guards, the DPs, the A-Cuffs,
[1:42:07] Speaker 4: and McHale, I'm trying to get one of them. If
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: I can get one of them as my guard, and
[1:42:12] Speaker 4: then I can get Jabari Smith or whatever that's jumping
[1:42:16] Speaker 4: out the gym a little bit, cool.
[1:42:18] Speaker 6: I'm good.
[1:42:18] Speaker 4: I'm good on that. So that's the only way. Like,
[1:42:21] Speaker 4: there's only a few teams that are, they got a
[1:42:24] Speaker 4: lot of, they got a lot of, they've been having
[1:42:25] Speaker 4: a lot of raw pieces for a day, and they're
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: like six years now trying to figure out, you know,
[1:42:30] Speaker 4: what they got over there.
[1:42:33] Speaker 3: They're keeping some jumpers, I can tell you that. They're
[1:42:35] Speaker 3: getting after them. Would you trade Al P for Giannis
[1:42:39] Speaker 3: if you used him? Would you throw Al P in there?
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: Yes, unfortunately.
[1:42:45] Speaker 2: I would as well. I wouldn't defend.
[1:42:50] Speaker 4: And one of my kids. Which one you want?
[1:42:53] Speaker 2: Thompson and Al P?
[1:42:55] Speaker 6: Hmm.
[1:42:59] Speaker 4: Whew. The reason I will lean with yes because I
[1:43:05] Speaker 4: will be scared to have Giannis and Amen on the
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: court at the same time. I better have nothing but
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: shooters at that point. So if they ask for him,
[1:43:14] Speaker 4: it'll probably take me 48 hours to think about it,
[1:43:17] Speaker 4: but I will probably lean yes, not wanting to do it,
[1:43:21] Speaker 4: but I'm going to take the chance to have KD
[1:43:22] Speaker 4: and Giannis. And you can get a guard. And then
[1:43:25] Speaker 4: I can go find someone. I wouldn't be happy with
[1:43:28] Speaker 4: getting rid of Amen because It's just something he brings
[1:43:32] Speaker 4: that just, it's just different. Like, we've seen a play
[1:43:36] Speaker 4: where he dove to the basket, then at the free
[1:43:40] Speaker 4: throw line, he just jumped off the wrong leg and just, like,
[1:43:44] Speaker 4: you can't mimic that. Like, I can sit with him
[1:43:47] Speaker 4: all summer, give him a jump shot. I can't get.
[1:43:51] Speaker 1: Someone who can fly just off any leg. Yeah.
[1:43:58] Speaker 4: And if I'm coaching this summer, if I'm in the
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: coach this summer, it's like, hey, listen, what I need
[1:44:03] Speaker 4: you to do is this summer, we're going to go
[1:44:08] Speaker 4: 300 makes a day, twice a day, first 30, 40
[1:44:11] Speaker 4: days into this offseason. One thing I need you to
[1:44:15] Speaker 4: do to take the next level to superstardom is I
[1:44:20] Speaker 4: need you to have a jump shot. Because if you
[1:44:23] Speaker 4: have a jump shot and they have to guard you
[1:44:25] Speaker 4: out here, there's no one that's going to stop you there.
[1:44:28] Speaker 4: But if half the defense is already sitting at the
[1:44:31] Speaker 4: free throw line and you're still jumping over them, wait
[1:44:33] Speaker 4: until they have to guard you at the.
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: Three-point line or half court.
[1:44:37] Speaker 4: So I would spend all summer trying to get 70,000
[1:44:39] Speaker 4: to 100,000 shots in that arm. Yeah, I don't care
[1:44:44] Speaker 4: about no arms tendonitis, none of that. You're going to
[1:44:47] Speaker 4: get a jump shot, goddammit.
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, don't touch the rim, brother.
[1:44:50] Speaker 1: You're going to get a jump shot. That's the one
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: thing you're going to get.
[1:44:52] Speaker 3: Hey, before my senior year at Cincinnati, bro, like, hey,
[1:44:55] Speaker 3: I don't think I dunked a basketball one time.
[1:44:58] Speaker 6: That's what you do.
[1:44:58] Speaker 1: You're going to be on the rim all season. Hey,
[1:45:01] Speaker 1: I didn't touch the rim, right? What I need to
[1:45:04] Speaker 1: do that for, I do that well, right? But I
[1:45:06] Speaker 1: need to work on this. So, young fella, hey, lock
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: in that gym, brother. Lock in.
[1:45:13] Speaker 4: I've seen Jason Richardson go from a guy, everybody's sitting
[1:45:17] Speaker 4: in the lane, he's about to tomahawk, double dunk on us,
[1:45:21] Speaker 4: and then he sat on the shooting machine all summer
[1:45:24] Speaker 4: long to then become a three-point threat.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: Now you've got to guard him out here. Now he's
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: back doing double pumping on you.
[1:45:31] Speaker 5: Man, after 13 years, you think all of a sudden
[1:45:34] Speaker 5: you just... flip the switch and you got a jump shot.
[1:45:37] Speaker 4: Who, Rihanna? I'm talking about Thompson.
[1:45:39] Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, Rondo, J-Kid.
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: No, later.
[1:45:44] Speaker 2: It was long.
[1:45:46] Speaker 4: J-Kid was over a long, it took a long time.
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: It was a lot of reps, bro.
[1:45:52] Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, for the finals, I mean, it
[1:45:55] Speaker 6: was not getting, I'm just saying, so.
[1:45:58] Speaker 4: But it wasn't like a, it's like, you got to
[1:46:00] Speaker 4: do that. You're so, listen, you look at his stats.
[1:46:05] Speaker 4: I've been top three. It's more ego than anything. I've
[1:46:09] Speaker 4: been top three the last seven years. I'm one of
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: the best players in the world doing this. The best
[1:46:17] Speaker 4: players get better this way.
[1:46:19] Speaker 2: 31, 30.
[1:46:20] Speaker 4: But me sitting in the gym just shooting random jump
[1:46:22] Speaker 4: shots like, you know what I mean?
[1:46:25] Speaker 1: Dialing it in like that, you have.
[1:46:27] Speaker 4: To do that early in your career.
[1:46:28] Speaker 6: So you don't think you can do it now?
[1:46:31] Speaker 1: He can.
[1:46:32] Speaker 2: He needs to.
[1:46:33] Speaker 1: He needs to the last long. He needs to.
[1:46:36] Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: That's the part of getting better.
[1:46:39] Speaker 6: Everybody, I feel like if you're great, even the great ones,
[1:46:42] Speaker 6: Kobe Bryant, they still got LeBron.
[1:46:44] Speaker 1: They still got Michael Jordan.
[1:46:46] Speaker 6: They still got better. You still took it to the
[1:46:49] Speaker 6: next level. As much as your ego is what it is,
[1:46:52] Speaker 6: you still was like, I got to get better. Mike
[1:46:55] Speaker 6: came back. Everybody.
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: Just say if it's not the jump shot though, right?
[1:46:59] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: A post game.
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: Right? Free throws?
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: Free throws in a post game, right?
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: That changes.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: That changes. If it's not the jump shot, get on
[1:47:07] Speaker 2: that block, man.
[1:47:08] Speaker 1: I'm going to keep saying it until he fucking does it, right?
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: Because I believe that he could be dominant on that block.
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: You don't get your ass on that block and don't
[1:47:23] Speaker 1: deviate from it, man. These guys, they don't know how
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: to play post defense these days. He will get every
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: shot he wants in the half court if he just–
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: Two moves. Catch it.
[1:47:38] Speaker 4: Turn.
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: Sweep through. Dunk. I mean– Turn. Sweep through. Then cut
[1:47:43] Speaker 1: it off. Spin. Dunk.
[1:47:44] Speaker 2: Then come back, you can half spin, jump hook.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: Hey, half spin, boom, boom, half spin, jump hook.
[1:47:49] Speaker 6: You don't want to go to like the Lakers, right,
[1:47:51] Speaker 6: and play with Luka, and now you're the number two option.
[1:47:57] Speaker 1: But your number two option still might be 31-12.
[1:47:59] Speaker 4: He rolled it in the last three.
[1:48:03] Speaker 6: Yeah, but you just said, like, ego, right? I've been
[1:48:06] Speaker 6: the MVP. I've been the MVP twice. I've been finals MVP.
[1:48:09] Speaker 6: And it's like, okay, well, yeah, that was then. But, okay,
[1:48:12] Speaker 6: if your ego is still, I don't want to get better.
[1:48:14] Speaker 6: I don't want to work on this.
[1:48:15] Speaker 1: Then you're going to come to this team and be
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: the second option.
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: And then how is that?
[1:48:20] Speaker 6: Ego going to hit that?
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: But you're second.
[1:48:22] Speaker 1: I mean, but I've been number one doing this my
[1:48:24] Speaker 1: whole time.
[1:48:25] Speaker 6: Like, you don't want to be number one.
[1:48:26] Speaker 3: You think it's going to be a one and a two?
[1:48:28] Speaker 3: If that happens, you think it's going to be one-two?
[1:48:32] Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be 1-2. Luka just
[1:48:33] Speaker 3: got the ball. I don't think it's 1-2 in that situation.
[1:48:35] Speaker 6: In that finals?
[1:48:36] Speaker 2: I think it's 1-A and 1-B.
[1:48:37] Speaker 6: I mean, in that finals, I mean, in that finals,
[1:48:39] Speaker 6: it's going to count.
[1:48:40] Speaker 1: 1-A and 1-B.
[1:48:41] Speaker 6: No, it's going to be the Kobe Bryant and Shaq situation.
[1:48:43] Speaker 2: 1-A, 1-B.
[1:48:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:48:46] Speaker 6: So who's willing? I mean, we already know.
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: You can have 45 one night and I can have 38.
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: Or the night, you can have 35 and I can
[1:48:55] Speaker 1: have 32. It doesn't.
[1:48:57] Speaker 4: Luka's going to win the MVP. The reason Luka's going
[1:49:00] Speaker 4: to win the MVP is because What Giannis don't do
[1:49:03] Speaker 4: that Luka does very well is he's the one that's
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: going to be passing the ball. So you might have 40...
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: That's 12, 14 assists, giving it to you. Plus, I'm
[1:49:13] Speaker 4: going to have my 37 points anyway. And I'm going
[1:49:15] Speaker 4: to have, like, eight, nine rebounds.
[1:49:16] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:49:16] Speaker 4: So that's how it's going to look. B, him doing
[1:49:18] Speaker 4: the pick and roll?
[1:49:19] Speaker 6: No, no, I'm rolling.
[1:49:21] Speaker 1: I'm rolling.
[1:49:21] Speaker 6: I'm just saying, at the end of your career, you
[1:49:23] Speaker 6: know how we always talk about, you know how we
[1:49:25] Speaker 6: brung up the Kobe in his first couple years? He
[1:49:27] Speaker 6: was number two, and then, you know.
[1:49:29] Speaker 4: But that's because that's the beginning of it. But they've
[1:49:33] Speaker 4: already had their career first. I remember Kobe was getting stunted.
[1:49:37] Speaker 4: He was getting stunted and.
[1:49:38] Speaker 1: He was like, no, y'all, hold on, no, no, no.
[1:49:40] Speaker 6: I'm dangerous.
[1:49:42] Speaker 4: What are y'all talking about Scottie Pippen? Scottie Pippen ain't
[1:49:44] Speaker 4: averaging 28. You know what I mean? And that's what
[1:49:46] Speaker 4: it was. You know what I mean? Because remember, when
[1:49:49] Speaker 4: they started using that, who he was playing in the playoffs?
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen. Oh, they look like they playing.
[1:49:55] Speaker 4: And that's what they were doing then. So he had
[1:49:58] Speaker 4: to branch off just like Kyrie had to branch off.
[1:50:01] Speaker 4: Giannis is like, I did it by myself. Right? Now
[1:50:04] Speaker 4: I want to win three, four more. How are we
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: going to do this?
[1:50:07] Speaker 3: And I think him and Luke in that pick and
[1:50:08] Speaker 3: roll is dangerous. He'll lob, threat, steal. He'll do all
[1:50:12] Speaker 3: the stuff that DeAndre won't do. Roll all the way
[1:50:15] Speaker 3: to the rim. Like, stand in the goddamn pocket. Like,
[1:50:19] Speaker 3: throw it to me now, damn it. I wish I
[1:50:22] Speaker 3: had a dunker when I play, boy. He probably wouldn't
[1:50:26] Speaker 3: have got the ball because I didn't know how to
[1:50:28] Speaker 3: throw lobs. But the fact that he's doing that and
[1:50:30] Speaker 3: the defense is adjusting.
[1:50:33] Speaker 1: Mo shooting for me. All right. Let's keep this thing
[1:50:35] Speaker 1: moving to our final topic of the day. Oh, shit.
[1:50:38] Speaker 1: Talk about the younger generation. So entering Friday, Concanipple was
[1:50:42] Speaker 1: the betting favorite to win rookie of the year over
[1:50:44] Speaker 1: his former college teammate and roommate Cooper Flagg. But Flagg
[1:50:47] Speaker 1: came through with a historic weekend to flip the odds
[1:50:49] Speaker 1: back in his favor. Let's take a look at some
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: of the highlights if we can, please. So it started
[1:50:53] Speaker 1: Friday night. Flagg put up a career-high 51 points on
[1:50:57] Speaker 1: the Magic, becoming the first teenager in NBA history to
[1:51:01] Speaker 1: drop a 50-piece and just the ninth rookie ever to
[1:51:04] Speaker 1: accomplish the feat. Also the first since our very own Mr. B,
[1:51:09] Speaker 1: who had 55 and three quarters against the Warriors back
[1:51:12] Speaker 1: in 2009. He also passed you as the youngest player
[1:51:14] Speaker 1: in NBA history to drop a 50. You only played
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: two quarters? Yeah. He played four quarters, but I don't
[1:51:18] Speaker 1: think he scored in the first quarter if I'm not mistaken. Oh,
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: so you got shut out in the first quarter?
[1:51:21] Speaker 2: No, it's just, you know.
[1:51:22] Speaker 1: I went 0 for 5 in the first quarter, dog,
[1:51:24] Speaker 1: and I scored 55.
[1:51:24] Speaker 6: Jesus.
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: Getting his rhythm.
[1:51:26] Speaker 6: So you scored.
[1:51:27] Speaker 4: 55 in the game at three quarters? Second through fourth quarter.
[1:51:30] Speaker 1: No, three quarters means you only played three quarters. Okay. Technically, yeah.
[1:51:34] Speaker 1: Scott Scal says, get your game.
[1:51:36] Speaker 8: He was just out there the first. He was just
[1:51:38] Speaker 8: out there. Just running around. Just throwing us 55. 51
[1:51:40] Speaker 8: against the Magic. He was 19 for 30 from the field.
[1:51:44] Speaker 8: Six for nine from... three in the game.
[1:51:46] Speaker 1: Followed that up with 45 points, nine assists, and eight
[1:51:48] Speaker 1: rebounds on 14 to 27 shooting against the Los Angeles Lakers.
[1:51:53] Speaker 1: Flagg and Braun became the first team and player over
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: 40 years old to both score 20 or more points
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: in a game, with both players doing that in the
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: first half. Flagg is the first rookie since Allen Iverson
[1:52:04] Speaker 1: with 40 plus points in back-to-back games. So his 96
[1:52:08] Speaker 1: points in a two-game span is the second most by
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: a rookie in league history. Behind Wilt, he has four
[1:52:13] Speaker 1: 40-point games this season. No rookie had had a 40-point
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: game until Jeremiah Fears did that with his 40-piece, I think,
[1:52:20] Speaker 1: Tuesday night. So after the win over the Lakers, Flagg
[1:52:24] Speaker 1: was asked what statement he made over the weekend in
[1:52:26] Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year race.
[1:52:28] Speaker 7: I think it's definitely some sort of statement, but it
[1:52:31] Speaker 7: just goes back to what I said. I'm confident in myself,
[1:52:34] Speaker 7: and I know what I'm capable of, and I'll just
[1:52:37] Speaker 7: let the rest of the stuff figure itself out.
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: The main event, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. So Flagg followed
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: up his big scoring weekend with 25 points, nine rebounds,
[1:52:47] Speaker 1: and a loss to the Clippers Tuesday. Now let's take
[1:52:49] Speaker 1: a look at the updated Rookie of the Year prediction
[1:52:52] Speaker 1: odds over on Underdog, if we can, please. Flagg, I
[1:52:57] Speaker 1: believe 71%. You see how it was trending previously. And
[1:53:01] Speaker 1: it will drop down to 33%.
[1:53:02] Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
[1:53:02] Speaker 1: This dude.
[1:53:05] Speaker 2: Leading the league threes made, man. This shit, like, this is.
[1:53:09] Speaker 1: It's.
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: A tough race.
[1:53:13] Speaker 1: Um... The human race.
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: I think it should be one. I'd go back to this.
[1:53:18] Speaker 1: It's a business.
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: Go one each conference, man. Just go one each conference, man.
[1:53:24] Speaker 1: Skip, we'll start with you. I see you wearing the
[1:53:27] Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys hat. This is a Dallas-related topic. Did Cooper
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: Flagg lock up the rookie of the year this weekend?
[1:53:35] Speaker 5: Yeah, he did for the wrong reasons. And I still
[1:53:38] Speaker 5: think Conn Knipple should be the rookie of the year. Look,
[1:53:43] Speaker 5: is Cooper Flagg a better player than Conn Knipple will
[1:53:46] Speaker 5: ever be?
[1:53:47] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:53:48] Speaker 5: But who had the more valuable rookie year, to your
[1:53:52] Speaker 5: point I think you were about to make? Conn Knipple did.
[1:53:57] Speaker 5: Leading the league in threes made. 43% from three. And
[1:54:02] Speaker 5: he's not the best player on Charlotte's team, but he's
[1:54:05] Speaker 5: the catalyst because he's doing things nobody thought he could
[1:54:09] Speaker 5: do this quickly. He's the fourth overall pick, and I
[1:54:12] Speaker 5: just shrugged when they picked him, like, come on, seriously?
[1:54:15] Speaker 5: But I've been watching this team because I have to
[1:54:19] Speaker 5: watch this team because since late January, they've been the
[1:54:24] Speaker 5: second hottest team in basketball and the biggest surprise in
[1:54:28] Speaker 5: the NBA since January. They have caught real live fire,
[1:54:33] Speaker 5: albeit in the Eastern Conference. And Khan's averaging 19 a game.
[1:54:40] Speaker 5: Cooper is 21. So it's 21 to 19. But speaking
[1:54:44] Speaker 5: of three-point shooting, Cooper Flagg is dead last in the
[1:54:48] Speaker 5: NBA in three-point shooting. So I got to factor that in.
[1:54:52] Speaker 5: But beyond that, I got to factor in that when
[1:54:56] Speaker 5: he exploded against your Lakers last, what was it, Sunday,
[1:55:01] Speaker 5: that was the first game they had won in 15
[1:55:05] Speaker 5: games at home. They had lost 14 straight at home.
[1:55:08] Speaker 5: And now Dallas has lost 28 of its last 34 games,
[1:55:12] Speaker 5: 28 of its last 34. So one team is crazy
[1:55:15] Speaker 5: hot and one team is just playing it out with
[1:55:20] Speaker 5: Najee Marshall as their second best scorer. And all I
[1:55:24] Speaker 5: know is Con Canipa was the favorite Until three games ago.
[1:55:29] Speaker 5: And three games ago, Cooper Flagg was averaging 15 shots
[1:55:32] Speaker 5: a game. In the last three, he has taken 30 shots,
[1:55:38] Speaker 5: 27 shots, and 25 shots. So all of a sudden,
[1:55:41] Speaker 5: with nothing to play for except garbage time points, he
[1:55:45] Speaker 5: is just garbaged out. And he's really good. But we
[1:55:50] Speaker 5: knew he was really good. At least I think I
[1:55:52] Speaker 5: knew he was really good.
[1:55:53] Speaker 6: He just is.
[1:55:54] Speaker 5: He can do all that. And he exploded. for all
[1:55:58] Speaker 5: these points late and stole MVP. And I'm sure he's
[1:56:02] Speaker 5: gonna win it now because the public loves to see
[1:56:06] Speaker 5: 51s and 45s and 30s and wow, oh, okay. But
[1:56:11] Speaker 5: Conn Knipple has shown you, he's a basketball player who
[1:56:16] Speaker 5: does a lot of little big things for Charlotte. And
[1:56:21] Speaker 5: he's not just a catch and shoot three point shooter.
[1:56:24] Speaker 5: He can create his own shot. and he can make
[1:56:28] Speaker 5: mid-range jump shots. He's really good, and he helped solidify
[1:56:32] Speaker 5: and make a team that obviously is focused around Lomelo
[1:56:36] Speaker 5: and Brandon Miller and Bridges. They're really good, and they're
[1:56:41] Speaker 5: going to get a whole lot better fast, and they're
[1:56:45] Speaker 5: going to be a problem for somebody in the postseason,
[1:56:48] Speaker 5: in large part because Con Canipa is playing way beyond
[1:56:51] Speaker 5: his years as a rookie. So in impact, he deserves
[1:56:56] Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year. And Cooper Flagg has been really good,
[1:57:02] Speaker 5: but only great late when it didn't really matter.
[1:57:08] Speaker 1: Shintaro, do you agree, disagree? Okay.
[1:57:14] Speaker 4: Stats is one thing, and then reality is the other.
[1:57:19] Speaker 4: One is a third, fourth option on his team, right?
[1:57:22] Speaker 1: Fourth?
[1:57:24] Speaker 4: Which means no one's paying attention to you, no one's
[1:57:27] Speaker 4: guarding you, right? So your shots are very high volume shots.
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: So you should shoot 40 something percent.
[1:57:37] Speaker 1: Can you play that video again? This is the difference between.
[1:57:42] Speaker 6: Number two and number one.
[1:57:45] Speaker 4: Number one, the reason his shooting is gonna be off
[1:57:49] Speaker 4: because He has to– this is what he has to do.
[1:57:53] Speaker 4: He is the lamello ball on the team. He has
[1:57:55] Speaker 4: to create everything. He has to drive. He has to
[1:57:58] Speaker 4: create the offense. He is being guarded. When you're going
[1:58:01] Speaker 4: against Dallas, you're trying to guard this.
[1:58:04] Speaker 5: Okay, but everybody beats that.
[1:58:06] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[1:58:07] Speaker 1: I can beat it now because they're still young, but.
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: These are the plays I have to make. If you
[1:58:14] Speaker 4: just set Cooper Flagg in the corner to shoot jumpers,
[1:58:18] Speaker 4: he's going to be a great three-point shooter. But he
[1:58:20] Speaker 4: has to do step back, step back, coming off the
[1:58:22] Speaker 4: pick and roll while somebody's guarding him.
[1:58:25] Speaker 1: That's the difference between his shooting percentage.
[1:58:28] Speaker 4: In caniples right miss a lot of so yeah but
[1:58:32] Speaker 4: he is the number one he's bringing this is what
[1:58:34] Speaker 4: he is doing this is his game right versus option
[1:58:38] Speaker 4: four right he's going to have three or four people
[1:58:41] Speaker 4: loading up on him and he has to make moves
[1:58:43] Speaker 4: like that so when you're talking about impact his impact
[1:58:48] Speaker 4: is is a lot different because he's the star player
[1:58:52] Speaker 4: that someone's trying to guard um When it comes to
[1:58:56] Speaker 4: just the business of basketball, it doesn't look like the
[1:59:01] Speaker 4: future is headed in the right way if you give
[1:59:04] Speaker 4: it to a fourth option player.
[1:59:06] Speaker 5: That's true. Clearly, Cooper is just better.
[1:59:09] Speaker 1: He's better.
[1:59:10] Speaker 5: But he hasn't had a better year. He hasn't had
[1:59:13] Speaker 5: more value than Con Canipolis had for the team.
[1:59:17] Speaker 4: But the value is coming from who rolled was harder.
[1:59:25] Speaker 4: That is, like, the road is, these roads are very different.
[1:59:30] Speaker 4: One is smooth sailing. Just, hey, just hit the open
[1:59:32] Speaker 4: shots when you're, you know what, you don't have to
[1:59:34] Speaker 4: worry about the double team. We got that under control.
[1:59:37] Speaker 4: When the other one is being doubled and triple teamed,
[1:59:39] Speaker 4: because he is only the best player on the team.
[1:59:41] Speaker 4: So the roads are very different, right? They're playing a
[1:59:45] Speaker 4: very different battle of games, right? If you're saying is, is.
[1:59:51] Speaker 4: Canimple important to that team?
[1:59:53] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[1:59:55] Speaker 4: If this is what you're doing as a fourth option,
[1:59:57] Speaker 4: hell yes. Now, if Canimple had his own team, will
[2:00:02] Speaker 4: he be great? I think so. I've seen him in college.
[2:00:06] Speaker 4: To be honest, I went to the Arizona. I thought
[2:00:09] Speaker 4: he was more aggressive than Cooper Flagg was. It took
[2:00:13] Speaker 4: me a while to really see what Cooper actually did.
[2:00:17] Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, he plays hard. Is he
[2:00:20] Speaker 4: just a catch and shoot? What does he do? Knipple
[2:00:23] Speaker 4: always got it. He started doing his own thing. So
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: I know he has it in him, but he didn't
[2:00:28] Speaker 4: have to display it this year. So I'm going to
[2:00:32] Speaker 4: always go with the guy who rode was a little harder,
[2:00:35] Speaker 4: and by far.
[2:00:37] Speaker 5: Okay, but just three games ago, Khan was the favorite
[2:00:42] Speaker 5: until Cooper took 30 shots a game for three straight games.
[2:00:45] Speaker 5: That's what happened.
[2:00:47] Speaker 4: Yeah, just like, you know, Wimby was the favorite. You know,
[2:00:50] Speaker 4: I'm just throwing shit out here. Tom was the betting
[2:00:53] Speaker 4: odd favorite.
[2:00:54] Speaker 1: Begging for the money is really not the rookie ladder.
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just throwing it out here to make y'all
[2:00:59] Speaker 4: jump at it.
[2:01:00] Speaker 1: I know who I'm giving my trophy to. I'm sorry.
[2:01:03] Speaker 1: I know who the trophy's going to. You know what
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: I mean?
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: It's just one of those things where it just, as
[2:01:11] Speaker 4: a product, it looks a lot better.
[2:01:14] Speaker 1: If Cooper flagged. It does.
[2:01:16] Speaker 6: I agree.
[2:01:17] Speaker 4: Versus someone who's not the star of the team right now.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:01:21] Speaker 6: No, for sure. I mean, for me, man, I want
[2:01:23] Speaker 6: to shout out, first of all, you know, Cooper Flagg
[2:01:26] Speaker 6: breaking the record, you know, youngest ever. I've always been
[2:01:29] Speaker 6: a fan of him since he was at Curry Camp
[2:01:32] Speaker 6: in high school, but also just him coming into the league,
[2:01:35] Speaker 6: being able to play for a point guard like Jason Kidd, right?
[2:01:39] Speaker 6: You're playing for a top five point guard who has
[2:01:42] Speaker 6: the craziest mind, insane mind of basketball IQ I've ever seen.
[2:01:46] Speaker 6: ever been around and the fact that your first year
[2:01:49] Speaker 6: is with him and you can have the freedom to
[2:01:51] Speaker 6: be able to make mistakes and do whatever you want.
[2:01:55] Speaker 6: I'm just happy for him. I mean, I got my
[2:01:58] Speaker 6: new balances on. These are new balances.
[2:02:00] Speaker 1: Did you rock your new balances today for Cooper Flagg?
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
[2:02:03] Speaker 6: I knew we were going to talk about the Cooper
[2:02:04] Speaker 6: Flagg and I wanted to give him a shout out
[2:02:06] Speaker 6: for breaking the record.
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: So no animosity for him bumping you out as the
[2:02:10] Speaker 1: youngest player to drop?
[2:02:11] Speaker 6: No, not at all.
[2:02:12] Speaker 4: You're second youngest.
[2:02:13] Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm the second, but he also, but also
[2:02:16] Speaker 6: who he's around, though, too. Like, Jason Kidd. Like, Jason
[2:02:18] Speaker 6: Kidd knows everything that's going around. Like, he knows who
[2:02:21] Speaker 6: he has. Like, he put him at the one position.
[2:02:23] Speaker 6: At first, it was, you know, it was hard for him.
[2:02:26] Speaker 6: It was a little adversity, but it's going to help
[2:02:28] Speaker 6: him down the line. I mean, you saw what happened
[2:02:30] Speaker 6: with Giannis. Like, with him, now he's taking the ball.
[2:02:32] Speaker 6: And all it's going to do is help this kid.
[2:02:34] Speaker 6: This kid is going to be on the Olympic team
[2:02:36] Speaker 6: in 2028, I feel. In Los Angeles. Yeah, in Los Angeles.
[2:02:41] Speaker 6: I just feel like just off this, 50-point game and
[2:02:44] Speaker 6: what he's going to be able to keep doing, he's
[2:02:45] Speaker 6: definitely going to be on the team. And the sky's
[2:02:47] Speaker 6: just the limit for him.
[2:02:48] Speaker 1: Wait a minute. What was the record? Brandon James is
[2:02:52] Speaker 1: the youngest player in the NBA history to drop 50
[2:02:54] Speaker 1: points in a game.
[2:02:55] Speaker 4: But he didn't drop it.
[2:02:56] Speaker 6: He dropped 55.
[2:02:56] Speaker 1: 50-plus points. See, you watered down. No, no, you're good.
[2:03:03] Speaker 1: Don't water down the five points, man. You got to
[2:03:06] Speaker 1: do that.
[2:03:07] Speaker 4: It was the youngest to have 55 points.
[2:03:10] Speaker 8: So, Mr. B, you are still the youngest player in
[2:03:12] Speaker 8: the industry to drop 55-plus points. He's the youngest to
[2:03:16] Speaker 8: drop 50. Different award. I like it.
[2:03:18] Speaker 1: They created an award.
[2:03:21] Speaker 4: Hey, Chad, please stop saying this is like Melo.
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: Stop.
[2:03:27] Speaker 4: Melo was the star of his team. He was the
[2:03:29] Speaker 4: number one option of his team.
[2:03:31] Speaker 1: All right. Melo had them in the playoffs. La Melo.
[2:03:37] Speaker 4: And the others have the men to play on. You
[2:03:40] Speaker 4: see how you say they are playing very well.
[2:03:42] Speaker 2: They're playing to play in.
[2:03:44] Speaker 4: Huh?
[2:03:44] Speaker 1: Nice play right now.
[2:03:45] Speaker 4: But I'm not going to.
[2:03:46] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. They're riding fish grease and they're
[2:03:49] Speaker 1: still in the goddamn playing game, man.
[2:03:51] Speaker 4: But, like, I don't want you to compare these.
[2:03:53] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[2:03:54] Speaker 1: I don't like people comparing.
[2:03:55] Speaker 4: Like, Melo was the main guy on the team being
[2:03:58] Speaker 4: doubled and tripled.
[2:03:59] Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony was the main guy.
[2:04:01] Speaker 4: This is not the main guy. He is the fourth
[2:04:04] Speaker 4: option on the team. Yes. He's doing his part.
[2:04:07] Speaker 1: Yes. To help them win games. He is open.
[2:04:11] Speaker 4: He's not the reason that they're winning games.
[2:04:14] Speaker 3: He is open as much as he is because he
[2:04:17] Speaker 3: is taking the fourth most.
[2:04:19] Speaker 2: Shots on the team.
[2:04:20] Speaker 1: He's Rui for the Lakers. So. He's Rui. Hit your shots.
[2:04:25] Speaker 4: Thank you. Appreciate you. Not the reason we're going to win.
[2:04:29] Speaker 1: But.
[2:04:31] Speaker 2: Still in the plan, though, King. You're still in the plan.
[2:04:33] Speaker 1: As you've pointed out. Yeah. I told you what spot
[2:04:36] Speaker 1: to get. You want me to give him credit and
[2:04:37] Speaker 1: get the guaranteed six. Six. Still got to play in.
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: Got a chance to get in there. I want them
[2:04:44] Speaker 1: to get to eight. I want them to get to eight.
[2:04:46] Speaker 1: I do.
[2:04:47] Speaker 3: I want them to finish eight so they can play
[2:04:49] Speaker 3: Detroit in the first round.
[2:04:50] Speaker 1: I want to see that shit. There's a potential. I
[2:04:53] Speaker 1: want to see them play in the first round.
[2:04:55] Speaker 4: I'm saying, but right now.
[2:04:57] Speaker 1: That might be the only exciting first round. I want
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: them to play.
[2:05:00] Speaker 8: Because I don't have a lot of first round.
[2:05:02] Speaker 1: I don't want that style. I do. But they have
[2:05:06] Speaker 1: the potential to jump up as high as six, seven.
[2:05:10] Speaker 1: Let them.
[2:05:10] Speaker 6: Listen, Charlotte don't want to see Boston.
[2:05:14] Speaker 3: I hope they get as high as well as they've
[2:05:19] Speaker 3: been playing, as well as the Charlotte Hornets have been playing.
[2:05:23] Speaker 3: I want them to get as high as they possibly can.
[2:05:26] Speaker 3: If that's getting to five, six, five, whatever it is,
[2:05:28] Speaker 3: get there. But as of right now, as I've been stating,
[2:05:32] Speaker 3: It's still in the play-in game, and I would love
[2:05:34] Speaker 3: for them to get to eight, right? If they get
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: to eight and they play Detroit because of what happened,
[2:05:37] Speaker 3: stay at eight.
[2:05:38] Speaker 1: Don't go to seven.
[2:05:38] Speaker 6: I want seven. No, you do not want Boston. I
[2:05:41] Speaker 6: just seen Boston play live in Milwaukee.
[2:05:44] Speaker 9: No.
[2:05:44] Speaker 1: No.
[2:05:45] Speaker 4: They're going to lose first round, right?
[2:05:48] Speaker 2: Either way it goes.
[2:05:49] Speaker 4: Which one is a more exciting look?
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: Detroit.
[2:05:52] Speaker 1: Them versus Boston.
[2:05:54] Speaker 4: That's going to be damn near 200 points.
[2:05:56] Speaker 1: No, Detroit. No, no, no. That might be 185 to 140.
[2:05:58] Speaker 4: Because it's just a bunch of three.
[2:06:00] Speaker 1: You just want to see this shit. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.
[2:06:03] Speaker 1: I want to see that. I want to see that. No, no, no.
[2:06:05] Speaker 1: Squabble up. It's going to be a blowout.
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: These two, like these two, they shoot 53s and this
[2:06:11] Speaker 4: team plays fast. This is what the NBA, when you
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: shoot 53s, this score is what we're supposed to see.
[2:06:18] Speaker 6: Boston play defense.
[2:06:19] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:06:19] Speaker 6: I've seen them a lot.
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: When it's Boston, you're going to go up and down.
[2:06:21] Speaker 1: You're going to chuck threes. They're going to play style
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: off the backboard.
[2:06:24] Speaker 2: Cool.
[2:06:24] Speaker 4: That grind it out is going to take away from
[2:06:27] Speaker 4: the show stopping we're trying to see.
[2:06:30] Speaker 1: All right, he's going to take away from the show.
[2:06:31] Speaker 1: I want to see.
[2:06:31] Speaker 4: If I want to see a team lose, lose throwing
[2:06:34] Speaker 4: the ball off the backboard, shooting from half court, pointing,
[2:06:37] Speaker 4: doing all that.
[2:06:37] Speaker 2: I want them to get to eight, man.
[2:06:38] Speaker 4: You know, shoot an arrow, shoot a couple people in
[2:06:40] Speaker 4: the stands.
[2:06:43] Speaker 1: And on that note. You know, but, you know, a
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: nice little fight. You know what I mean? Fist to cup.
[2:06:48] Speaker 4: As long as Cade comes back. If Cade comes back.
[2:06:50] Speaker 1: Cade coming back tonight, dude.
[2:06:51] Speaker 4: Tonight.
[2:06:52] Speaker 1: From the collapsed lung. Sweet.
[2:06:54] Speaker 2: All right, well, there we go.
[2:06:55] Speaker 6: Does he get the 65th?
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: I believe if he plays the next two games, he'll
[2:06:58] Speaker 1: beat 64, but there may be some wiggle room or
[2:07:00] Speaker 1: some negotiations that go on behind the scenes.
[2:07:03] Speaker 2: Let's see.
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: The light-skinned community will unite. We will unite. Is it
[2:07:07] Speaker 1: to give leeway or hoard?
[2:07:09] Speaker 4: 65!
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: Some exemption. 65!
[2:07:11] Speaker 3: If it's 64, dog, you can't do that, dog.
[2:07:15] Speaker 2: You can't do that to him.
[2:07:18] Speaker 4: No, no, the bad part is if it's 64 and
[2:07:23] Speaker 4: the person that gets picked over him is 65.
[2:07:25] Speaker 1: Right? It's 65 whose stats is just like, what? They
[2:07:29] Speaker 1: just try to do anything. Like, imagine averaging 33, 33, 9,
[2:07:32] Speaker 1: and 8.
[2:07:32] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:07:32] Speaker 1: And you got 64.
[2:07:32] Speaker 6: And then the person they put in is 21, 4.
[2:07:34] Speaker 1: And 3.
[2:07:34] Speaker 6: You'd be like, yeah.
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: The fuck out of here. Three games left. K very
[2:07:47] Speaker 1: well may hit the 64 game threshold. I think it
[2:07:49] Speaker 1: would only still be 63 because he only played like
[2:07:51] Speaker 1: five minutes in the game. He collapsed the lung, but
[2:07:53] Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. I let the league and
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: the squares figure it out. But that's an injury. Yeah.
[2:07:59] Speaker 1: That's how it go. I don't make the rules. But
[2:08:00] Speaker 1: appreciate everybody in the chat. As always, appreciate everybody on
[2:08:03] Speaker 1: this couch. Kip, thank you for pulling up. You good today?
[2:08:06] Speaker 6: You had a good time today?
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: You had a good day?
[2:08:08] Speaker 2: All right, you there?
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: You good? I mean, we had, you know, you good?
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: All right, okay.
[2:08:14] Speaker 1: All right, you're good. Just make it short.
[2:08:17] Speaker 4: I like the haircut.
[2:08:18] Speaker 1: Show the crowd. JC was a little offended you put
[2:08:21] Speaker 1: the hat on. No, no, they got to show them
[2:08:22] Speaker 1: the little duck tail. Oh, you brought it back? Duck tail.
[2:08:26] Speaker 6: Kenyon said I should have went all the way. If
[2:08:29] Speaker 6: I wanted to really show the South some love, I.
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: Should have went all the way. 80s cootie cat head.
[2:08:33] Speaker 1: 80s cootie cat head. This has been another episode of
[2:08:35] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow.

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