# James Harden's RESURGENT Season SHOCKS Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 2 Dec 2024, 2 h 28 min.

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James Harden's RESURGENT Season SHOCKS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & the Gil's Arena Crew return to Gil's Arena with an action-packed post-Thanksgiving show. They kick things off by reacting to the Lakers failure to defend their NBA Cup after being eliminated from the NBA In Season Tournament and analyze the first 20 games for the Lakers this season, debating how confident we should be in the Lakers' championship hopes this season and if LeBron James needs to deferring to Anthony Davis at the end of games in his 22nd NBA Season. Next, they react to Los Angeles Clippers continuing their impressive run without Kawhi Leonard by winning 7 of their last 9 games on the back of a vintage James Harden season, sparking a debate on who has been the more influential hooper to the game of basketball, the beard or Steph Curry. Next, they give a classic Gil's Arena Reaction to the Washington Wizards' WINLESS November and debate if we will see the worst season in NBA history this year before breaking down the Boston Celtics' blown loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers where the reigning champs proved they may not be as good as people think. Finally, they whip around the NBA with a special Hibachi Time and react to big performances around the league from superstars like Victor Wembanyama, Donovan Mitchell and Alpren Sengun. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Try VIIA! https://viia.co/gil and use code GIL! Watch Lakers vs Timberwolves With The Gil's Arena Crew! https://playback.tv/gilbertarenas Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:59 Kenyon's Reaction To GNX 0:04:56 College Football Fights On Rivalry Week 0:14:08 Most Disrespectful Thing A Rival Did To You 0:20:17 Gil's Arena ROASTS The Utah Jazz Coach 0:24:56 Is The Jazz's Tank for Cooper Flagg Obvious? 0:36:20 Lakers ELIMINATED From The NBA Cup 0:38:59 Grading LeBron's 22nd Season 0:49:30 James Harden Is CARRYING The Clippers 1:13:00 Are The Clippers Contenders With Kawhi? 1:21:10 Who Is More Influential..Steph or Harden? 1:31:04 Wizards' No-Win November 1:51:36 Cavs Get Revenge on the Celtics 2:04:14 Can Anyone Beat A Healthy Celtics Team? 2:12:45 MostlyFans 2:20:28 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:10] Speaker 2: Back after a holiday break, everybody had a good Thanksgiving?
[0:13] Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
[0:14] Speaker 2: I was here getting it in.
[0:17] Speaker 1: Oh, that is how it gets.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Are you ready? That's okay.
[0:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
[0:20] Speaker 1: All right, I'll see how y'all do.
[0:24] Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Shot has to go retrieve. Hold on. The
[0:29] Speaker 2: most important piece of equipment. It's an important day today.
[0:31] Speaker 1: It's an important day today. Every day. It's an important
[0:34] Speaker 1: day today.
[0:35] Speaker 2: Seeing KJ was cooking this weekend.
[0:37] Speaker 1: Yes, he was.
[0:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:40] Speaker 4: He had a good game, man. Got some burn, man.
[0:42] Speaker 4: Got some meaningful minutes. So, no, he made the best
[0:45] Speaker 4: of it. They got that dub, most importantly. Over the Pistons.
[0:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to talk about the elephant in the room, though, Gil. Woo!
[0:58] Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I understand.
[1:06] Speaker 2: You crazy. We got to talk about Giants jersey in L.A.
[1:10] Speaker 2: What's going on? Giants jersey in L.A. What you doing?
[1:15] Speaker 1: It's not. Let's say Barry.
[1:18] Speaker 3: This is Barry Bond.
[1:19] Speaker 2: Oh, all right, all right, all right.
[1:21] Speaker 1: All right, all right.
[1:22] Speaker 2: That's Barry. Okay, okay, okay.
[1:23] Speaker 1: That says Barry.
[1:24] Speaker 2: This is official.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Let's just say Barry, you hear Bonds
[1:27] Speaker 1: in the back. Yeah, that's my team. Just making sure.
[1:30] Speaker 1: He's a giant.
[1:31] Speaker 2: This is Barry Bond. That ain't a giant jersey. It's
[1:34] Speaker 2: a Barry Bond jersey.
[1:35] Speaker 1: It's a Barry Bond jersey, man. Okay, you good.
[1:37] Speaker 2: You good.
[1:38] Speaker 1: You good. Classic, too. That's a classic. Like the Chicago
[1:41] Speaker 1: Bulls jersey. Ain't Chicago Bulls. That's just Jordan's jersey, man.
[1:45] Speaker 2: Layer 24. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[1:50] Speaker 2: As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[1:55] Speaker 2: We got the man they call Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants.
[1:59] Speaker 1: Back on the couch. There it is.
[2:01] Speaker 2: There it is. And on this side, we got the
[2:04] Speaker 2: legend Canyon Martin back here with us.
[2:10] Speaker 1: We got you a sound effect, Canyon!
[2:12] Speaker 3: What the fuck is that?
[2:13] Speaker 1: You gotta play it again. You gotta play it again.
[2:15] Speaker 1: You gotta play it again. What's up, Greg?
[2:18] Speaker 2: What's up, Danny?
[2:19] Speaker 1: What's up, Stanley? Stanley. Granddaddy. What's up?
[2:21] Speaker 2: Okay, before we start the show, we have to know,
[2:24] Speaker 2: did you listen.
[2:25] Speaker 1: To Kendrick yet? I've been song by song. Yes, God
[2:29] Speaker 1: is good.
[2:47] Speaker 2: God is good.
[2:48] Speaker 1: You know he old. I got two of them out
[2:51] Speaker 1: of there. You got two? I got two of them
[2:53] Speaker 1: out of there.
[2:55] Speaker 2: Add it to the playlist?
[2:56] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:56] Speaker 3: I put it right in the playlist.
[2:58] Speaker 2: It shouldn't take you out of this room.
[3:00] Speaker 3: I was still stuck on the.
[3:02] Speaker 1: There's a lot.
[3:03] Speaker 2: Of stuff to talk about.
[3:04] Speaker 1: I was still stuck in the euphoria, dog.
[3:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
[3:08] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man. I'm still enjoying this.
[3:11] Speaker 2: I'm still enjoying the battle, man.
[3:13] Speaker 1: Like, it just happened. There's a lot in there. There's
[3:16] Speaker 1: a lot going on.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Reliving it every single day?
[3:19] Speaker 4: Yeah, but since you wasn't here, I just told her, like,
[3:22] Speaker 4: I don't... Like, I don't wear the shoes the same
[3:25] Speaker 4: day I buy them.
[3:26] Speaker 3: Like, I sit on stuff.
[3:28] Speaker 1: I don't like to.
[3:29] Speaker 2: This is exciting.
[3:30] Speaker 1: I got to throw them shits on in the store.
[3:31] Speaker 1: I'm walking with them shits out. I'm walking out of
[3:34] Speaker 1: the store with these.
[3:35] Speaker 2: Put your old ones back in the box. Hell yeah.
[3:37] Speaker 2: They got to see me walk out with these.
[3:39] Speaker 3: Must be a Carolina thing.
[3:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah. Let me get these shits dirty before
[3:43] Speaker 1: I get to the car.
[3:47] Speaker 3: To me, I said, I'm just, I'm.
[3:51] Speaker 4: Just not a, like, I ain't saying that people, everybody
[3:54] Speaker 4: are hype, but I'm just not. Like, you're just not
[3:56] Speaker 4: going to get it because everybody doing it, I'm just
[3:58] Speaker 4: not going to rush to go do it.
[4:00] Speaker 3: That's how you get shot.
[4:02] Speaker 1: Right?
[4:03] Speaker 2: Fair.
[4:04] Speaker 1: What's that noise? Pow!
[4:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, gunfire.
[4:06] Speaker 2: That noise.
[4:08] Speaker 1: What's that noise?
[4:09] Speaker 2: Y'all go investigate first. Yeah, like, y'all run.
[4:12] Speaker 1: I ain't going to run.
[4:13] Speaker 2: I'm going to look first. Like, yeah, that's just, yeah,
[4:16] Speaker 2: that's me. I just, I'm going to observe first and
[4:20] Speaker 2: then I'm going to. What have you observed? Y'all run
[4:24] Speaker 2: that way, I'm going to run that way. What have
[4:26] Speaker 2: you seen so far?
[4:29] Speaker 1: Not as far as the music, observing the chaos around
[4:33] Speaker 1: the music. It's too much. Too much. Around this CD? Yeah,
[4:38] Speaker 1: it's too much. The chaos around the CD. What was
[4:42] Speaker 1: wrong with the city? It's a lot of breakdowns.
[4:44] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of breakdowns, subliminals. Everywhere you look,
[4:49] Speaker 4: everybody from when the snippets was just, the first day
[4:54] Speaker 4: it was out. Yeah. Before I even knew the album
[5:01] Speaker 4: was out, people had already broke songs down, a million
[5:05] Speaker 4: of the songs already.
[5:07] Speaker 3: How?
[5:08] Speaker 2: When did y'all take the time? It just dropped. On Friday, y'all,
[5:13] Speaker 2: Friday evening, y'all done already deciphered what he mean, what
[5:16] Speaker 2: he talking about. Like, how y'all got that kind of
[5:19] Speaker 2: time already?
[5:20] Speaker 5: Do you think, like, a rapper, like, leaks a little
[5:23] Speaker 5: bit of deciphering to help?
[5:24] Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, okay.
[5:25] Speaker 2: It's a treasure map.
[5:27] Speaker 1: This is what Kendrick, Kendrick is the ultimate scavenger hunt, like, coordinator.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Let me put this in here in all of these tracks.
[5:36] Speaker 1: He did four tracks before he dropped the album. And
[5:40] Speaker 1: each one of them tracks are breadcrumbs. The Squabble Up song,
[5:44] Speaker 1: Brock Lee. He put that snippet out during the beef.
[5:48] Speaker 2: On the Not Like Us music video, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.
[5:50] Speaker 2: He snippeted it.
[5:51] Speaker 1: So now y'all think about this album is nothing but
[5:55] Speaker 1: a small version of a deluxe that he's about to
[5:58] Speaker 1: drop again. He's just giving people what they want because
[6:00] Speaker 1: they've been asking, where KJ at? Where the album at?
[6:02] Speaker 2: I know he got something. Shit, wait till what's next. Uh-oh. Well,
[6:06] Speaker 2: we will. I can wait.
[6:11] Speaker 1: I'm just listening to Squabble Up.
[6:13] Speaker 2: TV Off.
[6:18] Speaker 5: I'll find a third song in about a month.
[6:21] Speaker 1: Reincarnate it, man. Reincarnate it, man. I'm like beats.
[6:26] Speaker 2: The beat catch me first. I don't want to hear
[6:29] Speaker 2: your lyrics. Give me the beats first. I'm a lyrical guy.
[6:33] Speaker 2: You're from that side. I'm a lyrical guy.
[6:36] Speaker 4: That's why it got to be a certain volume for
[6:38] Speaker 4: me to So I've been in the car with the
[6:40] Speaker 4: kids a lot over the, so I just, I can't
[6:42] Speaker 4: listen to it.
[6:43] Speaker 2: Right. Okay.
[6:44] Speaker 1: Right.
[6:44] Speaker 3: I'm in the car by myself.
[6:45] Speaker 4: I'm listening to it a certain volume and I like
[6:47] Speaker 4: to listen, like to repeat the song and listen to
[6:50] Speaker 4: it again. Or I got my headphones on and you
[6:52] Speaker 4: got to be playing at a certain volume.
[6:54] Speaker 1: So.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. You're going to like it.
[6:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:56] Speaker 2: I think you're going to like it.
[6:56] Speaker 4: I've been, I've been dabbling, but it's like I just said,
[6:59] Speaker 4: I just ain't in no hurry to rush through it.
[7:01] Speaker 2: And. Okay, well, we will get.
[7:04] Speaker 4: All the rest of them, he's put out good music,
[7:07] Speaker 4: so I'm not doubting that this is one of them
[7:09] Speaker 4: from him.
[7:11] Speaker 1: You're right.
[7:11] Speaker 2: We will get in-progress reports as you keep listening to more. No,
[7:16] Speaker 2: you will not.
[7:17] Speaker 1: But we got a lot to discuss. We're not talking
[7:19] Speaker 1: about this again with me.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Okay, well, damn. I'm not discussing this album with you
[7:26] Speaker 2: in words. I'm going to tuck my mic in.
[7:29] Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this again When he leave,
[7:33] Speaker 1: I be talking again.
[7:34] Speaker 2: See?
[7:34] Speaker 1: Just like that.
[7:36] Speaker 2: But we got a lot to get into. Here's what's
[7:38] Speaker 2: cracking in the arena today. James Harden has been holding
[7:41] Speaker 2: it down without Kawhi this season, but has the Beard
[7:44] Speaker 2: style of play been more influential than Steph Curry's for
[7:47] Speaker 2: young hoopers? The Wizards suffered through a no-win November after
[7:51] Speaker 2: losing all 14 of their games. Are they on the
[7:54] Speaker 2: clock to break the Pistons' record losing streak from last season?
[7:58] Speaker 2: That's They looking sad out there. Damn.
[8:00] Speaker 1: Who is that?
[8:03] Speaker 2: And the Cavs got revenge on the Celtics Sunday, but
[8:05] Speaker 2: does anybody want smoke with the Celtics starting five when healthy?
[8:09] Speaker 2: But before we get into all that, as always, this
[8:11] Speaker 2: show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and
[8:12] Speaker 2: download the app. Use promo code GILL. Get up to
[8:14] Speaker 2: $ 1, 000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. As for tonight,
[8:18] Speaker 2: GILL has some picks up in his partner pack on
[8:20] Speaker 2: the Underdog app. Let's take a look. Okay, GILL, you
[8:23] Speaker 2: got provocative with this one. Mix of NFL and NBA
[8:27] Speaker 2: on this pick-em injury. Pick'em entry, you got Courtland Sutton,
[8:31] Speaker 2: higher 49.5 receiving yards. Uh-huh. Okay. Jason Tatum, lower 2.5
[8:36] Speaker 2: first quarter rebounds. They're playing the Heat. Oh, no. Jalen Johnson,
[8:40] Speaker 2: lower 11.5 rebounds. They're playing the Pelicans. Zachary Sachet, higher
[8:46] Speaker 2: 14.5 points, rebounds, and assists. And Bo Nix, higher 219.5
[8:52] Speaker 2: passing yards. So, got to know what's the reasoning behind
[8:56] Speaker 2: the Tatum Lower 2.5 first quarter rebound.
[9:00] Speaker 5: Against Miami Heat, they're going to keep them around the
[9:03] Speaker 5: three-point line. They don't really shoot as many threes. And
[9:07] Speaker 5: getting three rebounds in the quarter with Porzingis out there, too.
[9:11] Speaker 2: And they shoot a lot of jumpers. A lot of jumpers.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Those easy three rebounds.
[9:17] Speaker 1: Who, Tatum? Yeah. Tatum's shooting a lot of threes. Oh,
[9:20] Speaker 1: they're both teams. This is a shooting game. Ain't no
[9:23] Speaker 1: drivers out there.
[9:24] Speaker 2: And three rebounds in the first quarter.
[9:27] Speaker 1: Ten shots in the first three minutes. Somebody got to
[9:30] Speaker 1: get them boards. He averaging, what, ten? Yeah.
[9:36] Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with my under on that one.
[9:41] Speaker 2: You're going to have to.
[9:43] Speaker 1: He got no choice.
[9:44] Speaker 2: What was the thought process with the football and basketball, Nick?
[9:49] Speaker 2: I thought you only watched the Rams. Yeah.
[9:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.
[9:53] Speaker 3: White man named Bo.
[9:54] Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair, that's fair.
[9:59] Speaker 2: Without no history?
[10:00] Speaker 1: Of him. Bo.
[10:04] Speaker 5: He's Caucasian, dog, with the name Bo. As soon as
[10:11] Speaker 5: I see this, Bo.
[10:13] Speaker 2: Shit, let me go ahead and take Bo.
[10:16] Speaker 3: For the high end, because he's still white.
[10:18] Speaker 1: Does that mean Bo can go? Bo can go. Bo
[10:21] Speaker 1: knows how to pass that ball.
[10:24] Speaker 3: They let you pick Bo?
[10:25] Speaker 1: They let him pick Bo.
[10:26] Speaker 2: They let him pick Bo.
[10:27] Speaker 3: Hey, Norm don't let you? That's why I'm looking.
[10:30] Speaker 2: I'm like, Bo?
[10:30] Speaker 1: 219, 2?
[10:31] Speaker 4: You normally can't pick the quarterback and the receiver on
[10:34] Speaker 4: the same team.
[10:36] Speaker 1: Jeff? Yeah.
[10:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[10:37] Speaker 1: Sometimes.
[10:38] Speaker 2: Because it's usually, yeah, usually.
[10:39] Speaker 1: Oh, no, I see that.
[10:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like Bo passing it to the black man. Cool. Yeah.
[10:45] Speaker 2: One got to run.
[10:46] Speaker 3: One got to pass.
[10:47] Speaker 4: Because I stayed trying to pick Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelsey.
[10:50] Speaker 1: All day long. Let me get this.
[10:52] Speaker 2: I stayed trying to pick Mark Andrews and Lamar Jackson.
[10:56] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[10:57] Speaker 5: What you got to do is you got to pull
[10:58] Speaker 5: them out of the pack. So I pulled Bo out
[11:00] Speaker 5: of the pack.
[11:01] Speaker 1: Right?
[11:01] Speaker 3: And then you added one.
[11:02] Speaker 1: And then I went regular. Oh.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Okay.
[11:06] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, are you riding or fading
[11:08] Speaker 2: with Gil's picks? 75% said yes. 69% said they are
[11:12] Speaker 2: not rolling with your picks.
[11:13] Speaker 1: How did you do.
[11:13] Speaker 2: It too early? How many people did that? 733.
[11:16] Speaker 1: You collected the data too early.
[11:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you got to let it kick in about 2,000, 3,000.
[11:24] Speaker 1: 746. Like, 2,000, 3,000.
[11:25] Speaker 2: We still counting votes from California. So they didn't even
[11:27] Speaker 2: get my explanation yet before, you know what I mean?
[11:29] Speaker 1: Thanks. Bo knows. I don't know, man.
[11:32] Speaker 2: But if you like these picks and want to ride
[11:34] Speaker 2: with them, there's a link in the chat that'll take
[11:35] Speaker 2: you straight to the app to create your entry. And
[11:39] Speaker 2: as always, we do mostly fans at the end of
[11:40] Speaker 2: every show. If you drop a good question in the
[11:42] Speaker 2: chat with your underdog username, we use it on this program,
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[11:50] Speaker 1: Okay, we got Black Santa's here.
[11:52] Speaker 2: Black Santa.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Light-skinned Santa.
[11:54] Speaker 2: Light-skinned Santa.
[11:55] Speaker 3: Light-skinned Santa over there.
[11:56] Speaker 1: It counts.
[11:58] Speaker 2: It counts. And as always, we do this show live
[11:59] Speaker 2: on YouTube, but we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify,
[12:02] Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. So we got a lot
[12:03] Speaker 2: of basketball to discuss, but we're going to start the
[12:05] Speaker 2: show off with some college football. and an interesting trend
[12:08] Speaker 2: that we saw this weekend. There were several rivalry games
[12:10] Speaker 2: with conference championship and college football playoff implications, and things
[12:14] Speaker 2: got testy across the country. So we're going to start
[12:18] Speaker 2: the Michigan-Ohio State game. Michigan walked into Ohio State's trap,
[12:22] Speaker 2: won their fourth straight game against the Buckeyes. After the game,
[12:24] Speaker 2: there was an all-out brawl after Michigan players planted multiple
[12:27] Speaker 2: flags at midfield to celebrate the upset. It was getting turnt.
[12:32] Speaker 2: Police pulled out the pepper spray, hitting player coaches and
[12:35] Speaker 2: media near the melee. Both Michigan and Ohio State were
[12:38] Speaker 2: fined 100 racks by the Big Ten for the incident.
[12:41] Speaker 2: It also went down to North Cagalacky after NC State
[12:44] Speaker 2: defeated North Carolina. They in your town. They in your trap.
[12:50] Speaker 2: And Florida and Florida State got into a brawl as
[12:51] Speaker 2: well after the Gators planted their flag on Bobby Bowden Field.
[12:59] Speaker 2: Going down, very, very disrespectful, but I got to ask
[13:02] Speaker 2: the couch, you letting your rival plant their flag on
[13:04] Speaker 2: your home field after beating you?
[13:07] Speaker 1: Is this the tradition?
[13:09] Speaker 2: I mean, you win the game.
[13:11] Speaker 1: You win the game, you stamp your flag. If that's
[13:13] Speaker 1: how it goes, that's how it goes. Everybody tripping. They tripping.
[13:16] Speaker 2: If that's not how it goes, I get it. But
[13:17] Speaker 2: if that's how it goes, if y'all beat.
[13:20] Speaker 1: Us and y'all plant y'all flag and we cool, cool.
[13:22] Speaker 2: But if everybody acting up. Michigan done it before. No issue.
[13:27] Speaker 2: They were posing, taking cheesing up, taking flicks. But a
[13:31] Speaker 2: lot of people just said it's showing more fight after
[13:33] Speaker 2: the game than they did during the game.
[13:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
[13:36] Speaker 4: If y'all showed that, if Michigan showed that kind of fight,
[13:39] Speaker 4: I mean, Ohio State, if Ohio State showed that kind
[13:41] Speaker 4: of fight during the game as the number two team
[13:44] Speaker 4: in the country, if you would have had that kind
[13:47] Speaker 4: of fight during them 60 minutes, y'all would have been
[13:50] Speaker 4: having to do that. So, same thing with Carolina, same
[13:53] Speaker 4: thing with, you're at home, you're supposed to take care
[13:55] Speaker 4: of home. So they came in there and put foot
[13:57] Speaker 4: to ass.
[13:58] Speaker 1: Thanks.
[13:59] Speaker 2: And as Chattis pointed out, Baker Mayfield back in the day,
[14:01] Speaker 2: he was going hard with it. That's why they hate,
[14:05] Speaker 2: you know, Trey Young.
[14:06] Speaker 1: When you can't beat me when I need to be beat,
[14:09] Speaker 1: and then I throw it in your face, you can't
[14:11] Speaker 1: be getting mad, beat us.
[14:13] Speaker 2: Like, you just lost, right?
[14:15] Speaker 1: Shouldn't your ass.
[14:16] Speaker 5: Be going back to the locker room or something to
[14:19] Speaker 5: fuck your ass watching us celebrate for? Like, that's weird. Like,
[14:23] Speaker 5: what they doing? What they doing?
[14:26] Speaker 1: Oh, hey, hey, everybody get the flag, y'all. Everybody put
[14:28] Speaker 1: the flag up. Come on, come on.
[14:30] Speaker 2: We'll get y'all sorry asses back to the locker room.
[14:33] Speaker 5: Y'all got a speech to talk about how we just.
[14:37] Speaker 3: Tricked off our season.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Like, come on. All season.
[14:39] Speaker 2: How we just tricked it off. Well, you still didn't
[14:42] Speaker 2: get in, but still, though, you want to better yourself.
[14:44] Speaker 2: So now you got a harder game. Yep. Right?
[14:47] Speaker 4: Playoffs, stand-ups, and now you got a harder game first.
[14:49] Speaker 4: Because you're going to drop.
[14:52] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[14:52] Speaker 2: Going to drop.
[14:52] Speaker 1: Right? You're going to drop. So....
[14:56] Speaker 2: Take your L, man. Take your L.
[14:59] Speaker 5: It just makes no sense. The winning team is celebrating.
[15:02] Speaker 5: That's what they do. They're going to try to pull
[15:05] Speaker 5: the shit down. They're going to run on the field.
[15:07] Speaker 5: They're going to mess with you. That's what they do.
[15:11] Speaker 5: That's at home. If they upset you at home, what's
[15:13] Speaker 5: going to happen? All the fans, you already know this.
[15:16] Speaker 2: So what is the point of even getting upset? It's
[15:20] Speaker 2: a flag.
[15:21] Speaker 5: In the middle of paint and grass that has nothing
[15:26] Speaker 5: to do with you. It was there before you got there.
[15:28] Speaker 5: God damn it, it's going to be there after. So
[15:30] Speaker 5: you're going to risk your scholarship? You're going to risk
[15:34] Speaker 5: your scholarship on some shit that got nothing to do
[15:36] Speaker 5: with you?
[15:37] Speaker 1: Pride.
[15:39] Speaker 5: Your pride tells you that I need to fight you
[15:42] Speaker 5: because you wanted to put something in some grass that
[15:45] Speaker 5: has nothing to do with me.
[15:46] Speaker 2: Ride as the devil.
[15:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have.
[15:49] Speaker 2: Hey, man. By the time practice come tomorrow, whatever hole
[15:52] Speaker 2: that was, somebody going to fix it.
[15:53] Speaker 3: Ain't got shit to do with me.
[15:54] Speaker 1: Facts. Whoever started the fight, man, they asked me to
[15:58] Speaker 1: be grounded or something. They good, man.
[16:01] Speaker 4: They team got, yeah, $ 100, 000 for the schools.
[16:04] Speaker 3: Slap it.
[16:05] Speaker 2: Oh, that was the fine? $ 100, 000 for the Michigan, Ohio State.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Each school was fined $ 100, 000 for their role. in the melee.
[16:11] Speaker 2: The other thing, too, police out there pepper spraying.
[16:13] Speaker 3: Pepper spraying.
[16:13] Speaker 5: I'm not getting pepper sprayed. That's what I'm saying. It
[16:16] Speaker 5: just makes no sense.
[16:18] Speaker 2: Let it go.
[16:18] Speaker 1: No, the players feel good because they didn't get fined.
[16:20] Speaker 2: Ain't nothing coming out of my pocket. You ain't paying me.
[16:24] Speaker 1: I ain't got to pay you.
[16:25] Speaker 2: We're going to catch them. We're going to hit them
[16:27] Speaker 2: in our pockets. Got pepper sprayed. Coaches and parents and
[16:32] Speaker 2: whoever's out there. Yeah, whoever. If you was in the
[16:34] Speaker 2: line of fire, you was getting cut.
[16:35] Speaker 3: It's blowing in the air out.
[16:36] Speaker 1: There, dog. Yeah, yeah.
[16:38] Speaker 2: I bet not. I bet not see no. It bet
[16:39] Speaker 2: not be no coaches out there trying to throw blows.
[16:41] Speaker 5: Like, no.
[16:42] Speaker 3: They was throwing you.
[16:43] Speaker 1: Inside the house. Are you supposed to throw blows? This
[16:45] Speaker 1: is your scouting report, coach.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Get up there and help him.
[16:51] Speaker 1: Hold that flag up.
[16:52] Speaker 2: I just got knotted on my head because it's your
[16:54] Speaker 2: scouting report. Let's go.
[16:55] Speaker 3: 10 points at home?
[16:56] Speaker 1: Only 10? Yeah, it was 13-10.
[17:00] Speaker 2: Finals, 13-10.
[17:00] Speaker 3: That's Big Ten, though.
[17:02] Speaker 2: Big Ten football.
[17:02] Speaker 4: But still, though, you at the crib as the number
[17:04] Speaker 4: two team in the country.
[17:05] Speaker 2: You got to throw out.
[17:06] Speaker 4: You got to come. Man, because Michigan been struggling this year.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Michigan ain't.
[17:11] Speaker 3: No quarterback.
[17:13] Speaker 2: Right?
[17:14] Speaker 1: No quarterback.
[17:15] Speaker 3: They just run.
[17:16] Speaker 1: Right.
[17:17] Speaker 2: Who?
[17:17] Speaker 1: Michigan. Edwards ain't panning out to be who he's supposed
[17:19] Speaker 1: to be, so it's tough.
[17:22] Speaker 2: How? How?
[17:22] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[17:23] Speaker 2: You got eight and nine in the box every time.
[17:26] Speaker 1: Every time. Throw it, please.
[17:28] Speaker 4: We're going to play these guys man to man. Beat
[17:30] Speaker 4: us one on one because we know he can't get
[17:32] Speaker 4: it there.
[17:33] Speaker 1: Period.
[17:34] Speaker 5: Right?
[17:37] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, are you a fan of
[17:39] Speaker 2: rivals planting flags after a big win? 78% say yes. Look,
[17:43] Speaker 2: if we walk in your trap, take over your trap,
[17:45] Speaker 2: we do it, we want in your trap.
[17:46] Speaker 1: It's our trap now. It is our trap now.
[17:48] Speaker 2: You got a whole game to fight. Play it this way.
[17:49] Speaker 2: Fight for it to not happen.
[17:51] Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
[17:52] Speaker 2: The worst is when it's turf, though, and you can't
[17:54] Speaker 2: plant it in. You just got to... You don't want
[17:56] Speaker 2: to do it, just turf.
[17:57] Speaker 1: Turf your shit up. Yeah, lay on the ground. Do
[18:01] Speaker 1: a snow angel. Do something. Do a little happy dance
[18:05] Speaker 1: in the middle of the goddamn logo.
[18:06] Speaker 3: What I give for it?
[18:07] Speaker 2: So bring me to my next question. What's the most
[18:09] Speaker 2: disrespectful thing an opposing team or player did to you
[18:12] Speaker 2: in the game? If you could think back, it could
[18:14] Speaker 2: be at any point in your no disrespect shot ever.
[18:17] Speaker 2: They were humble.
[18:19] Speaker 1: I just never give them an opportunity to be disrespectful.
[18:22] Speaker 2: Try not to give them an opportunity.
[18:26] Speaker 5: I guess the most disrespectful thing for basketball... is when
[18:30] Speaker 5: you're getting your ass whooped so bad, they put that
[18:32] Speaker 5: dude in.
[18:32] Speaker 2: They put that one dude in the game that wasn't
[18:36] Speaker 2: supposed to be in the game.
[18:37] Speaker 1: He's never played in the game. Give him the ball.
[18:39] Speaker 5: And then he gets the ball and score.
[18:42] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[18:43] Speaker 1: On you. On you. And you looking around. Right here.
[18:49] Speaker 5: They all there celebrating like he won a championship.
[18:52] Speaker 2: He got two points for the season.
[18:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the most disrespectful right there.
[18:56] Speaker 1: You want to....
[18:59] Speaker 2: Having been in that position, those two points mean a lot.
[19:00] Speaker 2: I know.
[19:01] Speaker 1: I know.
[19:02] Speaker 2: Your family watching, the work watching.
[19:03] Speaker 1: Well, worse than that is if the coach, if the
[19:05] Speaker 1: guy checks in the game and you're guarding him and
[19:07] Speaker 1: the coach says, all right, run it. Run it for him. What? Yeah,
[19:13] Speaker 1: run it.
[19:13] Speaker 2: Run it.
[19:14] Speaker 1: Run it for him.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Get it, shoot it, score it.
[19:18] Speaker 1: Run it again.
[19:18] Speaker 2: And then they say run it again.
[19:20] Speaker 5: And the NBA is the NBA player so you cool.
[19:23] Speaker 2: That high school joint.
[19:25] Speaker 1: That high school joint.
[19:26] Speaker 3: He's really bad.
[19:27] Speaker 1: He's really bad. Like if you don't take the ball
[19:29] Speaker 1: from him.
[19:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, nah. It gets bad to the point where probably
[19:33] Speaker 2: special ed. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
[19:34] Speaker 1: He been the ball boy for all four years.
[19:37] Speaker 2: He calls him the player.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Senior night. Yeah, they didn't put his ass in. And
[19:42] Speaker 1: that motherfucker caught fire. Got the shorts on backwards. He
[19:46] Speaker 1: ain't even got the shorts on the right way. Oh, shit! No,
[19:50] Speaker 1: that's nuts.
[19:51] Speaker 2: That's nuts.
[19:52] Speaker 1: The crowd going nuts. Hey, everybody on the floor. That's
[19:54] Speaker 1: the one. The referee done took a break in the bathroom.
[19:57] Speaker 1: That's the one you don't want right there. Like, we
[19:59] Speaker 1: were ready to go.
[20:00] Speaker 5: The whole crowd screaming his name to get the ball.
[20:03] Speaker 1: Everybody looking. They saying triple quadruple squeeze. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Damn! Josiah! Josiah!
[20:12] Speaker 2: Sean, we're supposed to be on the same team.
[20:14] Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody else to say the same.
[20:18] Speaker 2: You could have said it.
[20:19] Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody else to say the same. You
[20:21] Speaker 1: could have said it. I'm trying to include you here.
[20:23] Speaker 2: No, I don't want your inclusion. It's supposed to be
[20:27] Speaker 2: holiday season.
[20:29] Speaker 1: My bad. My bad.
[20:30] Speaker 2: My bad. My bad. My bad. I see what's going on.
[20:32] Speaker 4: I just saw this clip recently. It might have been
[20:36] Speaker 4: a high school game or a small college game. I
[20:38] Speaker 4: think it was a high school game. The kid missed
[20:40] Speaker 4: the free throw. And everybody said, oh shit, sorry ass bitch.
[20:46] Speaker 1: Right? Listen, yo, dawg. Hey, listen, man.
[20:52] Speaker 2: I died laughing.
[20:54] Speaker 1: Died laughing.
[20:56] Speaker 2: I'm like, could you imagine being at the kid, the
[20:58] Speaker 2: parent of that kid at the game, dog?
[21:00] Speaker 1: You miss a free throw and they said it?
[21:03] Speaker 2: Sorry, guys. Oh, shit. Sorry. Hey, some of them high
[21:06] Speaker 2: school crowds be ruining it.
[21:08] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Oh, we was going to roll? Oh, yeah.
[21:11] Speaker 1: They was to be on the list, dog. Yeah, they, yeah.
[21:17] Speaker 2: Yes.
[21:18] Speaker 1: It's hilarious because they creative with it.
[21:21] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
[21:21] Speaker 3: Oh, they creative.
[21:22] Speaker 2: For sure.
[21:22] Speaker 3: Oh, they very creative.
[21:23] Speaker 1: Like, how you get all 50 of them to say
[21:26] Speaker 1: it at the same time?
[21:26] Speaker 2: Did y'all just say it? It'd usually be like the
[21:28] Speaker 2: football team.
[21:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[21:31] Speaker 2: They was deep with it. That shit was so funny
[21:33] Speaker 2: to me, man.
[21:34] Speaker 1: Mm-mm-mm. For sure.
[21:35] Speaker 2: Well, let's keep this thing moving. I got to talk
[21:37] Speaker 2: some basketball now. So after winning the hardest NBA Cup
[21:40] Speaker 2: championship in league history last season, the Lakers are trying
[21:44] Speaker 2: to defend their title. Things were looking good with the
[21:46] Speaker 2: 2-0 start in group play, but they took a turn
[21:49] Speaker 2: for the worst. Last two group play games with Lakers
[21:51] Speaker 2: getting smacked by the Suns in a 27-point blowout road
[21:54] Speaker 2: loss Tuesday, followed by a loss to the top seeded
[21:57] Speaker 2: Thunder at home on Friday, which effectively eliminated them from
[22:01] Speaker 2: advancing to the knockout round. Unfortunately, they will not get
[22:03] Speaker 2: to defend that NBA Cup title.
[22:06] Speaker 1: I know, Gil.
[22:07] Speaker 3: Who set our schedule?
[22:09] Speaker 5: Adam Silver. It's a tough time. Utah first and get
[22:16] Speaker 5: the easy wins.
[22:17] Speaker 2: So, Lakers got a win at the Spurs in between
[22:20] Speaker 2: those losses, and we're in Utah Sunday looking to get
[22:22] Speaker 2: back on the right track. So after four straight games
[22:25] Speaker 2: scoring under 20 points with the purple and gold going
[22:28] Speaker 2: 1-3 in those games, LeBron got his groove back, finishing
[22:30] Speaker 2: with 27 points, 14 dimes, and five rebounds going 12-28
[22:34] Speaker 2: from the field. But Brown was 0-9 for three in
[22:37] Speaker 2: the game and is 0-15 from deep in his last
[22:39] Speaker 2: three games since tying Kyle Corbett for seventh most made
[22:43] Speaker 2: threes in league history. So AD led the Lakers with
[22:46] Speaker 2: 33 points along with 11 rebounds and two steals. He
[22:49] Speaker 2: was 13-25 from the field, 2-4 from three. Laurie Markkinen
[22:53] Speaker 2: led the Jazz with 22.7 boards. John Collins had 21
[22:58] Speaker 2: and 9. And Colin Sexton finished with 15 and 4.
[23:03] Speaker 2: So this thing was back and forth.
[23:06] Speaker 1: Oh, no.
[23:07] Speaker 2: It was back and forth. But Rashad, winners prevail. Easy.
[23:12] Speaker 2: Ron a little, you know, a little shaky in the
[23:14] Speaker 2: fourth quarter. We'll just say that.
[23:16] Speaker 1: Don't bet.
[23:17] Speaker 2: But came through and it mattered. We ain't doing that
[23:19] Speaker 2: these days.
[23:20] Speaker 3: Relax.
[23:20] Speaker 2: But. Got to talk about one of the biggest moments
[23:29] Speaker 2: in the game, though. So let's get that clip ready
[23:33] Speaker 2: of the last play.
[23:36] Speaker 1: Boop.
[23:38] Speaker 2: So late in the game, Jazz had a chance to
[23:41] Speaker 2: win the game in the final moments. As Collin Sexton
[23:44] Speaker 2: tried to put the team on his back, but Will
[23:46] Speaker 2: Hardy decided to call a timeout right before what could
[23:48] Speaker 2: have been a Sexton game winner. Pau, do we got
[23:51] Speaker 2: that clip? Yeah, let's take a look right here. So
[23:59] Speaker 2: you hear the whistle right there. You see Will Hardy
[24:01] Speaker 2: sprinting past midcourt. It ended up being like 2.5 on
[24:07] Speaker 2: the clock. Let's see it one more time. He should
[24:11] Speaker 2: be fired. Let's see it one more time.
[24:13] Speaker 1: You'll be fired right here. You ain't called it already.
[24:16] Speaker 1: What the fuck are you calling timeout for?
[24:19] Speaker 2: What are you calling timeout for?
[24:21] Speaker 1: You got to advance, right? You can advance it if
[24:23] Speaker 1: you was to call it. If he wanted to call it,
[24:26] Speaker 1: he could have advanced it.
[24:26] Speaker 2: You want to play against a set defense with five
[24:28] Speaker 2: seconds on the clock, six seconds on the clock?
[24:30] Speaker 3: I don't think so.
[24:31] Speaker 2: Let's watch it one more time.
[24:32] Speaker 3: What you looking for, Gilbert?
[24:34] Speaker 1: Gilbert.
[24:36] Speaker 2: Gilbert.
[24:36] Speaker 1: Time, six. Now calls it. With two points. Like, yo, bro, what?
[24:44] Speaker 2: So, for what it's worth, AD appeared to stop once
[24:48] Speaker 2: he heard the whistle and said he would have blocked
[24:50] Speaker 2: Sexton's potential game winner anyway. Probably. The Jazz did have
[24:53] Speaker 2: another chance, but the Lakers came up with a huge
[24:55] Speaker 2: defensive stop to get the win. After the game, both
[24:57] Speaker 2: Will Harden and Colin Sexton offered their thoughts on the timeout.
[25:01] Speaker 6: Obviously, the timeout, you know, we like to let people
[25:05] Speaker 6: go in that situation. When Collin started, he did a
[25:10] Speaker 6: retreat dribble backwards, started calling timeout. It's obviously loud. The
[25:16] Speaker 6: hope would have been to have a few more seconds
[25:18] Speaker 6: than 2.1, but yeah, it's tough.
[25:25] Speaker 1: It could have went either way.
[25:27] Speaker 7: At the end of the day, Coach felt like I
[25:29] Speaker 7: was stuck a little bit, and he called it.
[25:30] Speaker 1: But it's just one of those, if it goes in, good.
[25:35] Speaker 7: But if it doesn't, then I should have called the timeout.
[25:37] Speaker 7: So I don't blame him at all for calling it.
[25:40] Speaker 7: Just at the end, they switched it up, especially we
[25:42] Speaker 7: weren't able to get a shot off at the end.
[25:44] Speaker 1: So that's the toughest part.
[25:46] Speaker 2: So Kyle Sexton said he doesn't blame Will Hardy for
[25:48] Speaker 2: calling the timeout, but do y'all blame Will Hardy for
[25:50] Speaker 2: calling that timeout? Yes.
[25:52] Speaker 1: He with us.
[25:52] Speaker 2: Will Hardy. Will Hardy.
[25:55] Speaker 1: Assistant coach for the San Antonio Spurs since 2016. We
[26:02] Speaker 1: talk about certain players leaving organizations and have learned something
[26:06] Speaker 1: from the players before them. Will should have learned something
[26:09] Speaker 1: from Pop. He was with Boston the last year. 21, 22,
[26:14] Speaker 1: should have learned something from who was there then.
[26:16] Speaker 3: Hey, I'm sure he's supposed to learn something from a
[26:18] Speaker 3: bad coach.
[26:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them.
[26:21] Speaker 1: Learn something, learn to do right, learn to do wrong, right?
[26:24] Speaker 1: You with Pop for five years, you supposed to know
[26:27] Speaker 1: time and score.
[26:29] Speaker 2: That's a bad decision.
[26:31] Speaker 1: So bad to the point where you let the Lakers
[26:34] Speaker 1: beat you. You got to take the Lakers down any
[26:35] Speaker 1: time you got them.
[26:37] Speaker 2: Any time you got them. You can't give them, mm-mm.
[26:41] Speaker 4: You don't want to play against that defense with two
[26:43] Speaker 4: seconds to go, man.
[26:45] Speaker 3: That's a bad timeout. With six seconds.
[26:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's questionable too.
[26:53] Speaker 2: You get something off. You get something off, but two?
[26:57] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[27:00] Speaker 4: It could have went in. AD said he could have blocked.
[27:02] Speaker 4: He could have went in. Could have got a shot off.
[27:04] Speaker 4: Could have shot a pull. You don't know, but that's
[27:07] Speaker 4: a bad timeout. To play against a set defense.
[27:12] Speaker 2: Yeah. He said he saw a second retreat dribble. Yeah.
[27:15] Speaker 4: So you got to trust your guy in that moment.
[27:17] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[27:17] Speaker 2: Right?
[27:20] Speaker 4: He retreated for a reason, he saw something. Now, like,
[27:26] Speaker 4: his initial action when he turned the corner in Hannon,
[27:29] Speaker 4: I needed a little more space, I got time.
[27:31] Speaker 1: Do you think Will felt like he had something better?
[27:35] Speaker 3: Obviously, he called a timeout.
[27:37] Speaker 1: So he didn't trust his, he not trusting his guy.
[27:40] Speaker 1: I live and die with you doing this in this moment.
[27:44] Speaker 1: I'm going to call a timeout, figure it out. He
[27:46] Speaker 1: did not have something better. They didn't get a shot off, so.
[27:49] Speaker 1: Let me see that one more time. One more for you.
[27:58] Speaker 2: Go all the way back to when they first got
[28:00] Speaker 2: the ball, please. Yeah.
[28:01] Speaker 3: Go all the way back to when they first got
[28:02] Speaker 3: the ball.
[28:02] Speaker 4: I want to see how much time is actually on
[28:04] Speaker 4: the clock when they first got the ball.
[28:05] Speaker 1: I think eight seconds. Oh, yes, eight seconds. You got
[28:10] Speaker 1: to call a timeout. 8.2. Yeah, you got to call
[28:12] Speaker 1: a timeout right away.
[28:13] Speaker 2: Call it right there?
[28:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, right away.
[28:14] Speaker 2: And he advanced the ball. If you're going to call it.
[28:16] Speaker 2: You got to call it right now. It's eight seconds.
[28:18] Speaker 2: Time out, advance the ball. See, we can't see when
[28:21] Speaker 2: he was calling it, but go? We can't, but.
[28:23] Speaker 3: He's.
[28:23] Speaker 1: Calling it right at 2.3, I think, at 2.3 seconds. Go, go, go, go, go.
[28:28] Speaker 1: He said he was screaming for... He's watching now. It's
[28:30] Speaker 1: five seconds, he's still watching. There's a retreat dribble right here. Retreat.
[28:34] Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. Okay.
[28:36] Speaker 1: Right now, he calls it. He was yelling it right there.
[28:38] Speaker 2: He said he was screaming at the refs weren't looking
[28:40] Speaker 2: at him. That's why he's bringing it all the way
[28:41] Speaker 2: to half court. So it's 2.8.
[28:43] Speaker 1: Hands up right there.
[28:44] Speaker 2: Okay.
[28:45] Speaker 1: 1.7?
[28:45] Speaker 5: I mean, just that angle right there, yeah, he's going
[28:50] Speaker 5: to get blocked. He could get blocked, but he could
[28:55] Speaker 5: do whatever he wants.
[28:56] Speaker 3: Okay, the problem.
[28:57] Speaker 4: He's going to shoot a high float, it's going to
[28:59] Speaker 4: be a goaltend or a block or a bucket. All
[29:01] Speaker 4: this says is, one, he probably didn't trust his player enough.
[29:10] Speaker 5: To get off a good shot. Um, as a guard,
[29:13] Speaker 5: he has the perfect eye on him. Somebody he can
[29:15] Speaker 5: beat to the basket.
[29:16] Speaker 1: Yes. So, you have to give him what you.
[29:19] Speaker 5: Don't have no time, but once the switch happened, there's
[29:23] Speaker 5: no more timeout.
[29:24] Speaker 3: You gotta play it.
[29:25] Speaker 2: If I was gonna call a timeout, I would've called
[29:27] Speaker 2: it when he passed half court and there's two guards
[29:29] Speaker 2: right there.
[29:30] Speaker 1: He don't have an advantage.
[29:31] Speaker 5: But once he started moving and he got the big
[29:33] Speaker 5: on him, there's no more timeout.
[29:36] Speaker 3: I need to let him do what he's going to do.
[29:38] Speaker 3: So let me ask you this.
[29:41] Speaker 4: So would you have called this, if he had called
[29:44] Speaker 4: a timeout in the backcourt, right? They probably couldn't advance
[29:48] Speaker 4: because of where he called it. But they got the
[29:50] Speaker 4: ball there because he took a dribble already.
[29:52] Speaker 8: Right?
[29:52] Speaker 2: If I can't do, if I can't.
[29:54] Speaker 4: Let him get a head start. You can call a timeout, right?
[29:56] Speaker 4: Give it to him and let him get a head
[29:57] Speaker 4: start and go down here.
[29:58] Speaker 3: That's what I.
[29:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, nah.
[30:00] Speaker 5: If I'm going to get the ball exactly right there,
[30:03] Speaker 5: then I'd rather him just go like that because the
[30:05] Speaker 5: defense is not set. Like once, like once the timeout comes,
[30:09] Speaker 5: all the bigs going to be in the back, all
[30:11] Speaker 5: of them.
[30:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you. I'm just trying to think of if, why, if.
[30:14] Speaker 4: if he would have called a timeout and they would
[30:16] Speaker 4: have had the ball. As a coach, I mean, it's
[30:18] Speaker 4: easy for us to say as a coach, is he
[30:21] Speaker 4: a left-handed? Does he drive left-handed? You're not thinking about
[30:25] Speaker 4: all that.
[30:25] Speaker 5: But as I said, is his side moving left? Like,
[30:27] Speaker 5: if this is Donovan Mitchell, I don't even think about
[30:30] Speaker 5: calling a timeout because that's the way he wants to
[30:32] Speaker 5: go left so he can do all the step backs
[30:34] Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
[30:35] Speaker 2: So I don't make that call.
[30:36] Speaker 1: Well, I was about to go there, not because of
[30:38] Speaker 1: left or right, but because who do I want the
[30:41] Speaker 1: ball from?
[30:42] Speaker 4: Who don't want to have the ball? Who you want
[30:44] Speaker 4: the ball? He got the ball in his hand. That's
[30:46] Speaker 4: who you want to.
[30:47] Speaker 2: Have the ball. No, no, no. That's the thing.
[30:50] Speaker 1: Is that the case? Who's supposed to have the ball?
[30:55] Speaker 1: Who do you think he wants to have the ball?
[30:57] Speaker 1: Who did he draw the player? So who did he
[30:58] Speaker 1: draw the player for?
[31:01] Speaker 2: So think about it.
[31:04] Speaker 3: You call the.
[31:06] Speaker 1: Play back for the same guy? No, that's crazy. Yeah. Crazy.
[31:11] Speaker 1: I'm thinking you call a timeout because you want your
[31:13] Speaker 1: star player to have the ball and shoot the ball,
[31:15] Speaker 1: and the reason why he didn't have it is because
[31:17] Speaker 1: he didn't get the rebound.
[31:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, see, one point, like, there's, like, Because it's all
[31:22] Speaker 2: happening so fast, once you let him get past half court,
[31:26] Speaker 2: you should just, you got to abort. Because what happens is.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Because that's what he thinks. That's what Kyle Jackson thinks.
[31:31] Speaker 5: Yeah, because one point six, even if it's two seconds, right,
[31:35] Speaker 5: whatever play you draw up, he don't have momentum in it.
[31:38] Speaker 1: Right?
[31:38] Speaker 5: So that means you old school. So you're going to
[31:41] Speaker 5: have something where he comes up the lane. Then he
[31:44] Speaker 5: has to try to turn his body back around to
[31:47] Speaker 5: then angle back.
[31:48] Speaker 1: To the shot.
[31:49] Speaker 3: The day he was going to take right here.
[31:50] Speaker 5: Yeah, to do the same shit. So, yeah, it's a
[31:54] Speaker 5: bad timeout. If you don't trust him because he was
[32:00] Speaker 5: having a bad game, I always like the player to
[32:04] Speaker 5: just go. unless I have a great out-of-bounds play, right?
[32:09] Speaker 5: I got somebody who got 46-inch verticals.
[32:11] Speaker 2: I can just throw this shit by the rim.
[32:12] Speaker 5: And he's going to do one of those. Yeah, other
[32:14] Speaker 5: than that, you know, like if you got Dwight Howard
[32:16] Speaker 5: or some shit, you throw that bitch out-of-bounds.
[32:19] Speaker 3: Right to him, sneakily, right? Other than that, then, just
[32:22] Speaker 3: let the.
[32:22] Speaker 2: We got the percentages, though.
[32:23] Speaker 1: Like, when you talk about last second, you talk about,
[32:27] Speaker 1: all right, who do you get a ball to? You
[32:29] Speaker 1: got Collin Sexton moving the way he moving. Like you said,
[32:31] Speaker 1: the momentum, like, you don't... call a timeout and go
[32:36] Speaker 1: up against a set offense. I mean, a set defense.
[32:38] Speaker 1: When you let the defense make a mistake in that position. Like,
[32:41] Speaker 1: I think, like you were saying, Colin coming down, he's
[32:44] Speaker 1: trying to figure out where they're going to make a
[32:46] Speaker 1: mistake because I got five seconds to get this. I'm
[32:49] Speaker 1: not thinking. He's not thinking a timeout's going to be called.
[32:52] Speaker 2: No.
[32:53] Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I got a chance. I got a
[32:55] Speaker 1: chance to make something happen right now. Let me get
[32:58] Speaker 1: to the rim. He ain't even thinking to bail them
[33:00] Speaker 1: out to shoot a jumper.
[33:02] Speaker 2: Nah, he's attacking the rim.
[33:04] Speaker 1: So, I mean, I like his mentality. It's just the coach,
[33:07] Speaker 1: I don't think the coach wanted him to take that shot.
[33:09] Speaker 3: He could have jumped in the AD and got a five.
[33:11] Speaker 2: He could have jumped into Rui. He could have stopped.
[33:16] Speaker 2: Game over.
[33:17] Speaker 4: Get it on the glass real quick. Goal 10.
[33:20] Speaker 1: Even if he got it off the glass.
[33:22] Speaker 2: Whoever 24 is. Kelsler. Yeah, right behind Kelsler. If AD jumps,
[33:28] Speaker 2: that's a quick tip back. And 23 going. But he's
[33:32] Speaker 2: not an experienced coach where they've probably been in these
[33:34] Speaker 2: situations a lot.
[33:35] Speaker 5: I mean, how many situations has he been in it where.
[33:38] Speaker 3: He's just like, oh, do y'all?
[33:39] Speaker 2: As a head coach or assistant? Head coach.
[33:41] Speaker 3: I got you.
[33:42] Speaker 1: That assistant shit don't work. But you see it. But
[33:45] Speaker 1: you see it, though. So, yeah, but.
[33:50] Speaker 5: Oh! You ain't making no decisions, man. You just sitting
[33:55] Speaker 5: there taking all the glory. That's the problem with the
[33:58] Speaker 5: assistant coaches. You getting glory off the head, coach, and
[34:01] Speaker 5: you get put into the fire, and you don't have no.
[34:03] Speaker 1: Experience your damn self.
[34:04] Speaker 2: But let's talk about the other side of this. Jazz
[34:06] Speaker 2: have the fourth worst record in the league right now,
[34:09] Speaker 2: but are the Jazz making their Cooper flag chase a
[34:12] Speaker 2: little too obvious? Uh, whoa. You see... When you say, like,
[34:23] Speaker 2: when you say, like, making it obvious, like, they have
[34:25] Speaker 2: a choice.
[34:27] Speaker 3: They have a choice. That's like saying, oh, yeah, the Wizards, right?
[34:32] Speaker 3: The Wizards, they ain't tanking. No, they suck.
[34:34] Speaker 2: Right, that's just.
[34:36] Speaker 3: This team.
[34:36] Speaker 1: Sucks, that's all.
[34:37] Speaker 2: They make sense.
[34:38] Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do.
[34:39] Speaker 5: They can go out there and play hard 48 minutes,
[34:41] Speaker 5: and this might still be the result.
[34:43] Speaker 2: It's just one of those teams right now. So they
[34:45] Speaker 2: ain't got to worry about tanking.
[34:45] Speaker 3: No, they ain't got to tank. They just got to
[34:47] Speaker 3: play basketball.
[34:48] Speaker 1: So... Why do Utah suck so bad? Why? Outside of
[34:56] Speaker 1: the fact that it's Utah. Is it obvious? Outside of that.
[35:02] Speaker 1: Outside of that. Like, why can't they get no talent
[35:07] Speaker 1: down there?
[35:08] Speaker 2: Why can't they? So I'm giving you a reason not
[35:12] Speaker 2: to use that?
[35:13] Speaker 1: Don't use that. Outside that it's Utah?
[35:16] Speaker 2: Uh... John Collins, marketing, Clarkson. They all got traded there.
[35:24] Speaker 2: There are reports that the Jazz are looking to move
[35:26] Speaker 2: Sexton and Jordan Clarkson. We're going to get rid of
[35:29] Speaker 2: the blacks.
[35:32] Speaker 1: That's all three. They only got three. They got three now.
[35:37] Speaker 1: They on the chopping block already.
[35:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, these niggas.
[35:42] Speaker 1: That's the problem.
[35:44] Speaker 2: We see what the problem is. Oh, Lord. They thinking
[35:48] Speaker 2: about their future.
[35:49] Speaker 5: Shit.
[35:50] Speaker 1: We thinking about ours. Jim and Fredette, we should have
[35:52] Speaker 1: got them. Wrong one. Unserious program. I need a moment.
[35:59] Speaker 2: I need a moment to get this.
[36:01] Speaker 1: It's Utah, dog. Salt Lake City area is my city.
[36:04] Speaker 4: But it's just you're not getting no free agents, man.
[36:07] Speaker 4: It's just one of them cities. Nobody's going to sign
[36:09] Speaker 4: that out. Yeah, I mean, what's.
[36:11] Speaker 1: The biggest fear? Nobody has time. Nobody has time. Since
[36:14] Speaker 1: Carlos Boozer.
[36:15] Speaker 2: Since Boozer.
[36:16] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No one has time.
[36:17] Speaker 2: Everyone else has been traded or drafted. And I can
[36:20] Speaker 2: guarantee you, nobody got traded. Oh, shit.
[36:23] Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
[36:23] Speaker 2: Damn.
[36:24] Speaker 3: So why do you think dudes like.
[36:27] Speaker 4: Carl played there as long as he did. John Stockton
[36:30] Speaker 4: played there as long as he... Dude, they couldn't go
[36:32] Speaker 4: out and solicit nobody in free agency to be.
[36:35] Speaker 2: Like, you know what?
[36:36] Speaker 1: Come fuck with me. Come fuck with us in Utah. Yeah.
[36:40] Speaker 5: Huh?
[36:41] Speaker 2: They got musty air. What?
[36:43] Speaker 1: Musty air to burn your lungs. Where y'all at? Salt Lake.
[36:48] Speaker 2: That's not a good recruiting trip. All right, but let's
[36:51] Speaker 2: shift it over to the Lakers. So Lakers are 8-1
[36:54] Speaker 2: versus teams below.
[36:55] Speaker 1: 500 this season.
[36:56] Speaker 2: Four and seven against teams at or above 500. Wait,
[36:58] Speaker 2: say that again? Eight and one versus teams below 500
[37:01] Speaker 2: this season.
[37:02] Speaker 3: Who said that?
[37:03] Speaker 2: That's the stat.
[37:06] Speaker 3: What you mean, who said that?
[37:08] Speaker 2: You know what he doing right now.
[37:09] Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[37:10] Speaker 3: You know what he doing right now.
[37:11] Speaker 2: What you mean, who said it? Like, how is that? Like,
[37:14] Speaker 2: when are they calculating this? Right now, at this very moment.
[37:17] Speaker 3: No, no, that doesn't work. That's just like when Bucs.
[37:20] Speaker 2: At this point in the season.
[37:20] Speaker 5: When you say Bucs, and I did the breakdown and
[37:22] Speaker 5: said they haven't beat a team over 500... And then
[37:25] Speaker 5: it was like, no.
[37:25] Speaker 1: They beat all these teams. Not when they beat them.
[37:28] Speaker 3: But you did it in a certain span.
[37:30] Speaker 5: No, I did it when they played them.
[37:31] Speaker 3: We're talking about right now.
[37:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, see, but that's what I'm saying.
[37:33] Speaker 2: We are.
[37:34] Speaker 3: Y'all record is.
[37:35] Speaker 2: As of right now.
[37:36] Speaker 1: As of right now... Y'all record is.
[37:37] Speaker 2: This very moment, Lakers are 8-1 versus teams below 500
[37:40] Speaker 2: this season.
[37:41] Speaker 5: So they're... But were they 500 when we played them, though?
[37:45] Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
[37:45] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[37:47] Speaker 5: Were they below 500 when we beat their ass? They
[37:50] Speaker 5: could have been 500 when we played them. Don't be
[37:53] Speaker 5: trying to play we beating up on bad teams.
[37:54] Speaker 2: What difference does it make?
[37:56] Speaker 1: It makes a big difference. Because your ass.
[37:58] Speaker 5: Starts 2-0 and I beat you and then you go
[38:00] Speaker 5: on a four-game skit.
[38:02] Speaker 1: That ain't got shit to do with me. Josiah? You
[38:04] Speaker 1: was 100% when I.
[38:05] Speaker 3: Beat your ass.
[38:05] Speaker 4: Can you please look up y'all wins and losses, please?
[38:09] Speaker 1: Yeah!
[38:10] Speaker 3: I asked Josiah to do it.
[38:12] Speaker 1: I want to spend Red's money. I want to spend
[38:15] Speaker 1: Red's money.
[38:17] Speaker 2: Could you cue the music for me, please? All right,
[38:21] Speaker 2: so Lakers wins this season. Timberwolves in the season opener.
[38:26] Speaker 2: Smacked him. You might recall, Ronnie locked up Ant-Man for
[38:29] Speaker 2: one possession.
[38:30] Speaker 1: Locked his ass up.
[38:31] Speaker 3: They've been below five.
[38:32] Speaker 2: Then beat the Suns, then beat the Kings.
[38:34] Speaker 1: Suns, yeah.
[38:36] Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait.
[38:36] Speaker 1: Oh, that's preseason.
[38:37] Speaker 2: Yeah. Suns and Kings, then they beat the Raptors. You
[38:40] Speaker 2: don't even preseason shit, Josiah? No.
[38:43] Speaker 1: Regular season.
[38:43] Speaker 3: When did the regular season start?
[38:45] Speaker 2: Tuesday, October 22nd, Gil. Okay, 22nd.
[38:47] Speaker 1: Okay.
[38:48] Speaker 5: So we beat the Wolves. That's a good win. Wolves
[38:50] Speaker 5: beat the Suns, the dominant Suns.
[38:52] Speaker 4: So when y'all beat the Wolves, what was their record?
[38:55] Speaker 1: 0-0.
[38:55] Speaker 3: Okay.
[38:56] Speaker 1: So that counts. That counts, yeah. And then the Suns, 1-1.
[38:59] Speaker 1: They 50%.
[38:59] Speaker 3: Dominant Suns team.
[39:01] Speaker 2: Kings.
[39:04] Speaker 2: Sent the Kings into a losing streak. Okay, they was 0-2.
[39:07] Speaker 1: Whatever.
[39:07] Speaker 3: So they're on this side.
[39:09] Speaker 4: Beat the Raptors. They're on this side. Hold on, what
[39:11] Speaker 4: was their record? What was their record, though? They're on
[39:13] Speaker 4: the losing side.
[39:14] Speaker 2: Man, it was 1-5. Beat a gritty Sixers squad.
[39:17] Speaker 1: Gritty.
[39:18] Speaker 3: They're on this side.
[39:19] Speaker 1: For sure. Beat the Raptors again.
[39:21] Speaker 3: They're on this side.
[39:22] Speaker 1: Grizzlies. They're on this side. Grizzlies was 7-5.
[39:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. You see where I'm getting at, though? Perfect.
[39:30] Speaker 3: Though.
[39:30] Speaker 2: Spurs. 3-4. Pelicans have beaten the Jazz twice and beaten
[39:33] Speaker 2: the Spurs twice. Oh, shit.
[39:35] Speaker 1: So just.
[39:36] Speaker 2: Spurs have a winning record game.
[39:37] Speaker 4: But they didn't when y'all played them. So he want
[39:41] Speaker 4: to go when y'all played them. Spurs was 10-9.
[39:43] Speaker 3: When y'all played them?
[39:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[39:45] Speaker 3: Which time? We played them twice, right? The last one
[39:49] Speaker 3: was the first one.
[39:50] Speaker 2: They was.
[39:52] Speaker 3: We played them twice? We didn't play them twice.
[39:55] Speaker 2: I played them twice, Gil.
[39:59] Speaker 1: Y'all holding on.
[40:00] Speaker 2: Y'all holding on for dear life. Beat them November 15th.
[40:04] Speaker 3: They were six and seven. They on this side.
[40:07] Speaker 2: And then beat them November 27th. So we don't know
[40:09] Speaker 2: what our record is.
[40:12] Speaker 1: We don't know what it is.
[40:13] Speaker 2: That's neither here nor there.
[40:14] Speaker 1: Yes, we do. He just tried to.
[40:18] Speaker 2: Make a scene on below. You know what I mean?
[40:20] Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like the way you
[40:21] Speaker 2: worded it. Y'all picking on bottom team teams like you
[40:24] Speaker 2: always say other teams do. Tough, gritty NBA squad.
[40:28] Speaker 4: Top 30 NBA team like Josiah like to say.
[40:30] Speaker 1: Top 30. Top 30.
[40:31] Speaker 2: They are in the hunt. It's okay. So, Gil, how
[40:35] Speaker 2: much confidence do you have in this Lakers squad after
[40:37] Speaker 2: their first 20 games? We're a quarter of the way
[40:39] Speaker 2: through the season.
[40:39] Speaker 1: We're 12-8, Rob.
[40:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah?
[40:41] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. 12-8? Yeah.
[40:49] Speaker 2: Shot, I see you holding the bat, shaking your hand
[40:50] Speaker 2: in disgust.
[40:51] Speaker 5: Tony, we in a good place? We about, what, 10, 9, 8?
[40:53] Speaker 5: Six seed, you know. Well, one game away from being fifth.
[40:57] Speaker 5: Right at a good spot. Three games out of first place.
[40:59] Speaker 1: Sixth seed.
[41:00] Speaker 2: Seems like the same score I was in the last
[41:02] Speaker 2: three years.
[41:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, we in.
[41:03] Speaker 2: No, we are in the play.
[41:04] Speaker 1: Absolutely not. We are in the playoffs.
[41:06] Speaker 3: Hell no.
[41:07] Speaker 1: Well, I know Darvin over there. Last three years.
[41:11] Speaker 4: They've been 8, 9, 10 the last three years.
[41:14] Speaker 1: We were holding down the six box. They finished 7th. Yeah,
[41:17] Speaker 1: we finished 7th. Yeah, we finished 7th.
[41:19] Speaker 4: They'd be like down there, and then they end up
[41:21] Speaker 4: finishing 7th, and yeah.
[41:24] Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about against trash teams. Well, damn, the whole
[41:26] Speaker 2: league is trash other than like four or five games.
[41:28] Speaker 2: The whole league is trash now?
[41:30] Speaker 3: No, they wasn't trash when we played them.
[41:32] Speaker 2: All of a sudden. We sent them to the trash can.
[41:34] Speaker 2: We're going to get to the clip. What? The NBA Cup? Yeah,
[41:40] Speaker 2: we're going to get to that clip. NBA Cup?
[41:42] Speaker 1: It's not important.
[41:44] Speaker 2: NBA Cup. It's not a big deal. Last year we
[41:46] Speaker 2: won the NBA Cup and took a dive. The inaugural
[41:49] Speaker 2: NBA Cup was important, right?
[41:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[41:53] Speaker 3: I think it's good for y'all.
[41:54] Speaker 2: I like it too.
[41:55] Speaker 1: I really think it's good for y'all.
[41:57] Speaker 4: Who the fuck we need to be in Vegas for?
[41:58] Speaker 4: Not to be putting emphasis on this shit right now.
[42:00] Speaker 2: The inaugural NBA Cup was very important for the league. Lakers...
[42:04] Speaker 2: Won that convincingly.
[42:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I think it's good.
[42:06] Speaker 1: It's not important anymore.
[42:08] Speaker 5: Huh?
[42:09] Speaker 2: It lost value.
[42:09] Speaker 5: Nah.
[42:10] Speaker 3: Y'all get back to these regulars?
[42:11] Speaker 1: No.
[42:13] Speaker 2: Vegas and December?
[42:13] Speaker 1: Kobe would've never, right?
[42:16] Speaker 2: We gonna use y'all shit.
[42:17] Speaker 1: Kobe would've never.
[42:18] Speaker 2: Never lost. Huh?
[42:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, no. Never what? Never would've lost.
[42:23] Speaker 2: Lost what?
[42:24] Speaker 1: The end-season tournament.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Who wants to play in those ugly courts anyway, Sean?
[42:28] Speaker 2: That's me. We would've never lost. Kobe would've never... Are
[42:33] Speaker 2: you serious? Yeah. About, uh, it doesn't, it doesn't, it
[42:37] Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
[42:37] Speaker 1: It's not as important.
[42:38] Speaker 2: You know what Kobe's teams look like the last four
[42:40] Speaker 2: years of his career? You know what LeBron's teams look like?
[42:41] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know he didn't make. You know
[42:43] Speaker 1: what he look like right now? You know what I'm saying?
[42:44] Speaker 1: He didn't make the playoffs.
[42:45] Speaker 2: I don't, are y'all forgetting that he was in the
[42:48] Speaker 2: league the last four years? They didn't make the playoffs.
[42:51] Speaker 2: Y'all just pretend that that didn't happen. Are we acting?
[42:54] Speaker 5: Like, yeah, he would never lose. Yeah, because they never
[42:56] Speaker 5: got there. They never got to the playoffs again, bro.
[43:01] Speaker 1: You remember when we.
[43:02] Speaker 2: Watched them play 60?
[43:03] Speaker 5: That was the last game. That was regular season. There
[43:06] Speaker 5: was not seven more games after that. That's all I'm saying.
[43:10] Speaker 5: We're going to activate this? No, I'm just saying, I
[43:12] Speaker 5: don't know why we keep doing this.
[43:14] Speaker 1: Oh, because we thought you was a Kobe fan, but
[43:16] Speaker 1: now we realize that you're not. No, it's just realistic.
[43:19] Speaker 1: We've realized.
[43:19] Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to be delusional.
[43:20] Speaker 2: We have realized that.
[43:22] Speaker 1: Kobe has been gone. Somebody has switched ships.
[43:26] Speaker 2: No, I'm just not going to be... I'm not delusional.
[43:29] Speaker 1: So, you were delusional when he was here and you
[43:31] Speaker 1: were saying he was the best. Now you're not delusional
[43:34] Speaker 1: and you're saying something different.
[43:36] Speaker 4: Well, both things can exist at the same time.
[43:40] Speaker 2: Which is what?
[43:41] Speaker 1: That they.
[43:42] Speaker 2: is a bad motherfucker, was a bad motherfucker, and forever
[43:45] Speaker 2: going to be a bad motherfucker.
[43:47] Speaker 1: I promote that 100%.
[43:48] Speaker 2: And that they didn't get in the playoffs last week.
[43:52] Speaker 2: He's acting like they ain't been in the playoffs since 2012.
[43:55] Speaker 1: What was the reason? When did he retire? What was
[43:58] Speaker 1: the reason?
[43:59] Speaker 2: 2016.
[43:59] Speaker 3: Bad team.
[44:00] Speaker 1: Or Achilles?
[44:02] Speaker 3: Just bad team.
[44:02] Speaker 2: Bad team? Achilles. Surrounding cast. Achilles don't have me. He
[44:09] Speaker 2: goes on to record 40,000.
[44:13] Speaker 1: Points.
[44:14] Speaker 2: Okay. It goes on to do that. But we don't know.
[44:17] Speaker 2: All we can just say is that.
[44:20] Speaker 1: When we use words.
[44:21] Speaker 5: That says this wouldn't have never happened under him, you
[44:25] Speaker 5: know his.
[44:26] Speaker 1: Career is over, Rick. So we can remember when Shaq left.
[44:29] Speaker 1: We remember those teams. But all we see is what's
[44:31] Speaker 1: happening right now under somebody else. But you don't want
[44:34] Speaker 1: to say that. You want to go back and say, Kobe,
[44:37] Speaker 1: but we talking about this dude right now. But no,
[44:38] Speaker 1: but you mentioned. We're talking about somebody saying, no, it's
[44:42] Speaker 1: not important. No, but you're saying that. The NBA Cup is.
[44:45] Speaker 5: No, you said it wouldn't have happened under they he
[44:48] Speaker 5: would have never lost.
[44:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, cuz we don't know it's a hypothetical So we're
[44:51] Speaker 1: not gonna go into hypotheticals. Remember you don't like that
[44:55] Speaker 1: But you do we're gonna talk about reality. I said,
[44:56] Speaker 1: we're not gonna go into it. No, no, but you're
[44:59] Speaker 1: I brought it up Yeah, so you don't want to
[45:01] Speaker 1: bring it up. Okay, so we're gonna go back to
[45:03] Speaker 1: reality Yeah, back to reality all got y'all ass whooped.
[45:07] Speaker 1: That's reality. Okay, sit your ass down and watch the
[45:11] Speaker 1: rest of the games and Comfortably. Thank you. So what's
[45:15] Speaker 1: reality now? Y'all want to get to the next question?
[45:18] Speaker 2: Is the NBA Cup important to you now that the
[45:19] Speaker 2: Lakers are coming?
[45:21] Speaker 1: What's important now that the Lakers are coming? It's so
[45:22] Speaker 1: important who holds up that championship. It's not the Lakers.
[45:26] Speaker 3: I think it's good for y'all, though.
[45:30] Speaker 2: You think it's good to not have to go to
[45:31] Speaker 2: Vegas in December?
[45:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, just concentrate on.
[45:35] Speaker 4: Because y'all did after y'all won it last year.
[45:38] Speaker 3: Y'all fell off a cliff.
[45:39] Speaker 1: Was it two?
[45:40] Speaker 2: We went two, like, 13?
[45:43] Speaker 3: Bad, bruh.
[45:44] Speaker 2: Unfortunate event.
[45:45] Speaker 4: So, therefore, I think just y'all in 12 and 8
[45:49] Speaker 4: right now, let December, y'all can.
[45:53] Speaker 2: Somebody's like, why aren't y'all talking about Darvin? I mean, JJ,
[45:56] Speaker 2: the way you did Darvin.
[45:57] Speaker 5: I was like, we didn't talk about Darvin bad until after...
[46:02] Speaker 5: We won the chip, got our hopes up, and then
[46:04] Speaker 5: it wasn't.
[46:05] Speaker 2: Two for 13.
[46:05] Speaker 1: That was it.
[46:06] Speaker 3: The doors fell off.
[46:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, the doors, yeah. That wasn't Darwin, though. That was
[46:10] Speaker 1: everybody drunk off the championship brew.
[46:13] Speaker 2: Darwin.
[46:13] Speaker 1: Y'all all drunk like y'all.
[46:14] Speaker 2: Won a real championship.
[46:16] Speaker 3: Darwin was like, hey, let's get back to business.
[46:17] Speaker 2: It was real.
[46:19] Speaker 1: Let's get back to business.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Very real champ. There was a trophy, Rashad. There was
[46:22] Speaker 2: a present. Trophy's had real champagne. There was a real fall-off, too.
[46:25] Speaker 2: There was a real fall-off. Yeah, yeah.
[46:27] Speaker 1: Usually when you.
[46:28] Speaker 3: Win championships, you don't got to come back to work.
[46:30] Speaker 1: Right. Kind of fucked us up a little bit. That's
[46:34] Speaker 1: what it was.
[46:35] Speaker 2: They was drunk.
[46:35] Speaker 1: They was drunk. It literally took a month off, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[46:39] Speaker 1: That's that championship celebration, the whole month. I ain't doing shit.
[46:43] Speaker 1: Harder than like a motherfucker, right? Imagine J.R.
[46:46] Speaker 2: Smith winning the championship in mid-season.
[46:48] Speaker 1: They'd be like, yo, J.R., we got a game in
[46:50] Speaker 1: two days. Wait, what? I still got my shirt off.
[46:54] Speaker 2: I ain't put my shirt off for.
[46:57] Speaker 1: Another 30 days.
[46:59] Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Bron. So Bron's appeared
[47:01] Speaker 2: in all 20 games this season. He's averaging 23 points,
[47:03] Speaker 2: 9 assists, 8 rebounds on 49, 36, 76 shooting splits
[47:08] Speaker 2: while playing 35 minutes per game, which is second most
[47:11] Speaker 2: on the team behind AD. So how would you grade
[47:13] Speaker 2: your 22, LeBron, so far this season? Like I mentioned before,
[47:16] Speaker 2: he was coming off that stretch of sub-20-point games. The
[47:19] Speaker 2: Lakers were 1-3 at that point. Has said that he
[47:22] Speaker 2: wants to try to play all 82 games this season.
[47:26] Speaker 2: Gil has released the smoke. Shot is given to LeBron.
[47:33] Speaker 2: What I can only deem as a sarcastic. No, why
[47:35] Speaker 2: would you do that? Because it looked like your face.
[47:36] Speaker 1: You're setting it up.
[47:37] Speaker 2: And you tried to clown me earlier, so I'm just
[47:39] Speaker 2: telling you, we're not here.
[47:41] Speaker 1: We're not here no more.
[47:42] Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. But it's looked, shake your time,
[47:45] Speaker 2: like watching that jazz game. Like I mentioned, I think
[47:48] Speaker 2: Bron was 0 for 9 from 3. Even me at
[47:50] Speaker 2: points was like, yo, get off the rock. Like, I'm
[47:53] Speaker 2: just saying, let's. AD had, what, 31, 33 at that point.
[47:58] Speaker 2: Only scored two points in the fourth quarter.
[48:00] Speaker 1: We've seen this before. We've seen this before. We're going
[48:04] Speaker 1: to talk about that in a second. We've seen this before.
[48:07] Speaker 4: We got to stop this trend, Anthony Davis, dog.
[48:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:10] Speaker 4: We got to stop this trend, bro. We have to. Like,
[48:13] Speaker 4: we're going to talk to you directly. You got to
[48:14] Speaker 4: stop this trend, AD, dog. You're too good. You're too good, bro.
[48:18] Speaker 2: Nah, man.
[48:18] Speaker 3: Like, you're too important.
[48:19] Speaker 2: 31 in the first three quarters.
[48:22] Speaker 1: Yes.
[48:23] Speaker 2: Two points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's unacceptable.
[48:25] Speaker 1: Two shot attempts.
[48:25] Speaker 4: I don't know if it's coaching, if it's you, if
[48:28] Speaker 4: it's team. Whoever it is, bro, you the man on
[48:32] Speaker 4: the team, dog. The dude 40. The dude 40, man.
[48:37] Speaker 4: You can't have two points in the fourth quarter, man.
[48:42] Speaker 2: Nah.
[48:43] Speaker 3: Like, this has been a theme.
[48:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:46] Speaker 4: An ongoing theme. You can't do that, dog. How many
[48:52] Speaker 4: shots did he get?
[48:52] Speaker 3: This is when you need to be a stat chaser.
[48:55] Speaker 2: Like, I got 31. I need 40. 45. I need 40.
[48:57] Speaker 2: And then when I get to 40, I need 45.
[49:01] Speaker 1: Go get it.
[49:02] Speaker 2: Go get it.
[49:02] Speaker 5: When I get to 40, I get to 50.
[49:04] Speaker 1: Like, that doesn't kick in.
[49:06] Speaker 5: There's no way I'm going to have 31 in three quarters,
[49:10] Speaker 5: and then I only take two shots in the fourth
[49:12] Speaker 5: unless I'm just sitting on the bench.
[49:13] Speaker 1: Right.
[49:13] Speaker 2: I'm going for the 4-0. I think he played seven
[49:16] Speaker 2: or eight minutes in that fourth quarter.
[49:17] Speaker 1: That's the momentum. That's the momentum as a scorer. Like,
[49:19] Speaker 1: you don't just stop at three quarters and be like, yeah,
[49:21] Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, that's it.
[49:24] Speaker 2: That's it right there.
[49:25] Speaker 1: How many minutes did he play?
[49:30] Speaker 2: How many minutes did he play in the fourth quarter?
[49:32] Speaker 2: About seven minutes, I think.
[49:33] Speaker 1: Two shots in seven minutes. Is that a him thing?
[49:37] Speaker 4: So it's both things.
[49:39] Speaker 2: It's whoever played things.
[49:42] Speaker 1: Whoever coached things, whoever played things. Yes, yes. To be honest. Yes. Right?
[49:48] Speaker 1: You're supposed to.
[49:48] Speaker 3: Be your best player.
[49:51] Speaker 2: But it's happening under every coach.
[49:52] Speaker 1: Yes. That's what I'm saying.
[49:54] Speaker 3: That's what I was saying about Darwin.
[49:56] Speaker 4: So therefore, that says everybody's included, right?
[49:58] Speaker 1: Yes, it is. It's... Talk about it, man. You got
[50:04] Speaker 1: to talk about it.
[50:04] Speaker 4: I'm going to start with the people that's calling the plays, right?
[50:08] Speaker 2: Who's that? The.
[50:09] Speaker 3: Absolutely, head coaches. Right now it's J.J.
[50:11] Speaker 2: Ragan.
[50:12] Speaker 5: Before it was Darv, before it was Vogel.
[50:16] Speaker 2: So it's been a, right? But right now it's J.J.
[50:21] Speaker 4: You are new coach, first year situation, trying to establish
[50:27] Speaker 4: yourself as a good coach in this league, right?
[50:32] Speaker 1: And at one of.
[50:33] Speaker 4: The most, if not the most, most high-profile job in
[50:39] Speaker 4: the game. You got a 40-year-old guy that'll be 40
[50:44] Speaker 4: this month.
[50:45] Speaker 2: Very soon.
[50:46] Speaker 3: Which is a great day, by the way.
[50:53] Speaker 4: Anthony Davis has been doing what he's supposed to so
[50:58] Speaker 4: far this season. Stepping up to the plate, as we
[51:01] Speaker 4: can see, averaging 30 and 11.
[51:04] Speaker 3: Which is crazy.
[51:05] Speaker 1: Great number. Very good number. For him, crazy.
[51:08] Speaker 4: So, J.J., this is your opportunity to really put this
[51:14] Speaker 4: team in his lap.
[51:16] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[51:16] Speaker 4: For him to take over because the guy's 40. This
[51:19] Speaker 4: is your opportunity right here. You can't allow that for
[51:23] Speaker 4: this man to take two shots in the fourth quarter.
[51:26] Speaker 4: You did TV last year some of these games in
[51:28] Speaker 4: the playoffs where he only took two shots.
[51:31] Speaker 3: And you talked about this on the air.
[51:32] Speaker 1: Get him.
[51:33] Speaker 4: So how can you be in this current situation and
[51:36] Speaker 4: not adjust and adapt to it?
[51:39] Speaker 3: And hold on.
[51:41] Speaker 2: Time out. Hold on.
[51:42] Speaker 3: We're going to call.
[51:42] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[51:43] Speaker 2: Throw him the ball.
[51:44] Speaker 1: Right now.
[51:47] Speaker 3: Throw him the ball.
[51:48] Speaker 4: Hey, we running turn five, turn four, drop this, swing this,
[51:54] Speaker 4: drop whatever to get number three to basketball, man. This
[51:59] Speaker 4: is what J.J. Reddick should be saying during the timeout.
[52:01] Speaker 1: Right?
[52:02] Speaker 2: Right.
[52:05] Speaker 4: IQ, Bron, you on the floor with him. You on
[52:10] Speaker 4: the floor with him. You got to go to him.
[52:13] Speaker 4: This is, man, big fella ain't got no shot in
[52:15] Speaker 4: a minute. He's supposed to be this cerebral guy, right? Remember,
[52:22] Speaker 4: play by play, he can run it back to you. Time, score, situation,
[52:25] Speaker 4: who didn't shoot it, who packed. This is your opportunity
[52:28] Speaker 4: right now to know that the big fella ain't got
[52:29] Speaker 4: no shots. Anthony Davis, you got to speak up.
[52:35] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey. Hey, yo. Hey, man, during the timeout. Hey,
[52:40] Speaker 1: sure would be nice to touch that motherfucker. Man, bring
[52:43] Speaker 1: it this way.
[52:44] Speaker 2: Right? Hey, hey.
[52:45] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[52:46] Speaker 3: Walk by JJ.
[52:47] Speaker 1: Hey, when they in they little, be the last one
[52:49] Speaker 1: to the bench.
[52:50] Speaker 4: Walk by him. Hey, I ain't touching in a minute.
[52:53] Speaker 4: You ain't got to put no names on it. Just
[52:54] Speaker 4: say it in the.
[52:55] Speaker 2: Coaches' heart. Walk by. Keep going. Do you need to
[52:57] Speaker 2: put names on it, though?
[52:58] Speaker 1: No, you don't.
[52:58] Speaker 3: You just say it to the group of coaches.
[53:01] Speaker 2: Or.
[53:02] Speaker 4: How about one of them 17 assistant coaches you got
[53:04] Speaker 4: that you paying over there? Hey, you know, J.J., stats sheet,
[53:10] Speaker 4: they jotting the possessions.
[53:12] Speaker 1: They watching it.
[53:13] Speaker 2: So let me give you an interesting fact that I found.
[53:16] Speaker 2: In the Lakers' last five games, AD scored a total
[53:19] Speaker 2: of six points in the fourth quarter in 29 minutes
[53:22] Speaker 2: of action. That includes some blowouts, but 29 minutes worth
[53:26] Speaker 2: of fourth-quarter basketball, six points, seven total shots, maybe three
[53:30] Speaker 2: for seven.
[53:31] Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing else.
[53:34] Speaker 1: To say.
[53:34] Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing else to say.
[53:36] Speaker 2: I'm looking at he came in in the 7-22 mark.
[53:41] Speaker 3: Everybody was hitting shots.
[53:46] Speaker 5: Once LeBron missed his first shot, once LeBron missed his
[53:51] Speaker 5: first shot, or Rui took a shot and LeBron missed,
[53:54] Speaker 5: that's when.
[53:55] Speaker 2: I would ask him for the ball.
[53:56] Speaker 1: So the real, real.
[53:57] Speaker 5: Opportunity would have been around the four-minute mark where... You miss,
[54:02] Speaker 5: you miss, come on. Because when he comes in the game,
[54:04] Speaker 5: LeBron's on fire. But around the four-minute mark is when
[54:09] Speaker 5: LeBron missed and then Rui took a three.
[54:13] Speaker 2: That's when our next possession said, yo, come on down here.
[54:18] Speaker 1: See, I don't know.
[54:19] Speaker 5: See, the problem is, somebody like Anthony Davis, I don't
[54:24] Speaker 5: know if I'm sitting him.
[54:26] Speaker 2: All the way to the seven-minute mark.
[54:28] Speaker 3: No, you can't.
[54:29] Speaker 1: That's horrible.
[54:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:31] Speaker 5: Like, I'm not sitting him. If LeBron's out, he's playing. Like,
[54:40] Speaker 5: I'd rather him start off the quarter and we're just
[54:43] Speaker 5: feeding him.
[54:44] Speaker 2: Especially if you got the hot hand like that. Like
[54:46] Speaker 2: I said, 31 in the first three quarters. Like, you're
[54:49] Speaker 2: sitting five minutes. He's cold. The game is going. It's
[54:53] Speaker 2: easy for him to be like, for the blend in.
[54:55] Speaker 2: You playing 36 and a half a night? Yeah, close
[54:58] Speaker 2: to 36. 36 a night?
[55:00] Speaker 1: It's easy for him to blend in. Like, I.
[55:05] Speaker 2: Don't, we up. Like, it's easy to convince yourself, right?
[55:09] Speaker 1: Like, we're up.
[55:10] Speaker 3: Everybody's doing good. I just came in.
[55:12] Speaker 2: Let me go up and down a little bit and
[55:14] Speaker 2: just be there. And yet, 16, I believe, in that
[55:18] Speaker 2: third quarter, once they played the whole third.
[55:20] Speaker 1: Why'd he come out?
[55:21] Speaker 2: Yes.
[55:21] Speaker 4: Start the fourth quarter. You got 16 in the third.
[55:25] Speaker 2: Play the first three quarters.
[55:27] Speaker 3: Just keep feeding them.
[55:28] Speaker 4: Put him back in the seven-minute mark. And then put
[55:30] Speaker 4: him back in the seven-minute mark. You still put him
[55:31] Speaker 4: back in the seven-minute mark. Let him play three minutes,
[55:33] Speaker 4: two minutes, two and a half minutes.
[55:34] Speaker 1: Take him out.
[55:35] Speaker 3: Put him back in the seven-minute mark.
[55:39] Speaker 1: You got it going. Y'all see the writing on the wall?
[55:45] Speaker 1: This LeBron last year, man, so all that... Cop. This
[55:49] Speaker 1: is last year.
[55:49] Speaker 2: No.
[55:50] Speaker 1: All that shit y'all saying, man, it feel good to
[55:54] Speaker 1: the average fan and want to see that type of
[55:56] Speaker 1: shit happen, but until LeBron actually step out of the way,
[56:00] Speaker 1: you're not going to see none of that.
[56:03] Speaker 5: Well, then he shouldn't be... Then he can't say he's a.
[56:08] Speaker 2: Star player. He can't say you're a star player if...
[56:14] Speaker 2: It ain't even got nothing to do with LeBron. You're
[56:15] Speaker 2: letting Rui, you're letting Gabe, Vincent, you can't bully them?
[56:18] Speaker 2: I mean, hey.
[56:20] Speaker 1: You can't bully them? Hey, bring that shit over. You
[56:22] Speaker 1: can't do that? Kevin Love couldn't do it. Chris Bosh
[56:24] Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Now you got 18. You couldn't bully
[56:28] Speaker 1: the people that don't like.
[56:30] Speaker 2: You living in the shadow.
[56:31] Speaker 1: So we can take two threes.
[56:34] Speaker 4: So it was never going to be their team, Chris
[56:36] Speaker 4: Bosh or Kevin Love. It was never going to be
[56:38] Speaker 4: their team.
[56:38] Speaker 1: Because he's on the team.
[56:39] Speaker 4: But you had Kyrie when Kevin Love was there in Cleveland, right?
[56:43] Speaker 4: Then you had Dwayne Wade there. So it was never
[56:46] Speaker 4: going to be. for them to be in a situation
[56:48] Speaker 4: to be Anthony Davis.
[56:50] Speaker 1: Because LeBron is there.
[56:52] Speaker 4: But they was never going to be in a situation. Look,
[56:53] Speaker 4: there's another guy there already. There's another guy there. Kyrie
[56:57] Speaker 4: was there. So for me right now, LeBron.
[57:01] Speaker 3: There's no reason he shouldn't be.
[57:02] Speaker 1: If we don't give him his flowers, it's like we're
[57:04] Speaker 1: not giving him enough flowers for him to just kind
[57:06] Speaker 1: of like want to walk away. We got to bring
[57:11] Speaker 1: more flowers because it's like, to me, it's hindering the game.
[57:16] Speaker 1: The stats, the praise, like, we get it. And I'm
[57:23] Speaker 1: going to give you flowers because you've done so much
[57:26] Speaker 1: for the game. You can't take away the energy he's
[57:28] Speaker 1: put in, the hard work he's put in, the blood, sweat,
[57:30] Speaker 1: and tears. You can't defy the gravity that he's passed
[57:34] Speaker 1: all these greats and he's done all this stuff for
[57:37] Speaker 1: the game. You cannot ignore that stuff. But what we're
[57:41] Speaker 1: seeing now is a diminishing of the game because a
[57:44] Speaker 1: great player will not step aside so other players can
[57:48] Speaker 1: be great.
[57:49] Speaker 3: That's not how it works.
[57:50] Speaker 2: That's not how it works.
[57:51] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's not how it works. You're telling me.
[57:54] Speaker 1: That's how it's working right now. No, you're telling me.
[57:56] Speaker 1: A 40-year-old's taking 28 shots on my team. and I
[58:01] Speaker 1: only got to shoot the ball two times in the fourth,
[58:03] Speaker 1: and you're telling.
[58:04] Speaker 2: Me that's not the way it goes?
[58:06] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you want me to take the range,
[58:09] Speaker 1: and you're taking 28 shots at 40, and I'm taking
[58:12] Speaker 1: two in the fourth, I don't want to hear nothing
[58:13] Speaker 1: else come out of nobody's mouth except for move the
[58:16] Speaker 1: fuck around.
[58:19] Speaker 2: But 28 and 25... Yeah, he took 25 shots. He
[58:25] Speaker 2: took 25 shots. I'm supposed to take 35. You should.
[58:27] Speaker 1: Why am I not?
[58:28] Speaker 2: Why did you take 25? Because you took them.
[58:31] Speaker 1: You took 25.
[58:32] Speaker 3: Six-game stretch.
[58:33] Speaker 1: Yes.
[58:34] Speaker 2: Five games.
[58:34] Speaker 3: Five games.
[58:35] Speaker 2: Six points in 29 minutes.
[58:37] Speaker 3: Six points.
[58:37] Speaker 2: Seven field goals.
[58:38] Speaker 1: Two of them was last night.
[58:41] Speaker 4: And you said a couple of them was blowouts, but
[58:43] Speaker 4: they were getting blown out? So they got blown out
[58:45] Speaker 4: by the sun.
[58:46] Speaker 2: 29 minutes of work to play for six points.
[58:49] Speaker 1: They beat the Spurs by 18. Still close.
[58:51] Speaker 3: Can we just accept? One and one.
[58:53] Speaker 4: It was a blowout that he said that they were down,
[58:56] Speaker 4: and it was a blowout when they were up. So
[58:59] Speaker 4: he played the fourth quarter of all them fucking games.
[59:01] Speaker 2: Played fourth quarter of all those games. Had a couple
[59:03] Speaker 2: of zero-point fourth quarters in that five-game mix as well.
[59:06] Speaker 2: Sometimes we just got to say that some people just
[59:08] Speaker 2: don't want to be the bad guy.
[59:10] Speaker 3: What's the bad guy?
[59:12] Speaker 2: The bad guy. The bad guy.
[59:14] Speaker 5: Like, maybe he don't want to be responsible for... losing games.
[59:20] Speaker 5: Maybe he can't take the pressure of dropping this game.
[59:24] Speaker 1: Like, I'd rather let the 40-year-old do it because I
[59:27] Speaker 1: don't want the responsibility.
[59:28] Speaker 2: If we lose, Laker Nation's going to be on me.
[59:31] Speaker 2: You don't have a choice.
[59:32] Speaker 1: I do. No, you don't.
[59:33] Speaker 2: I let him do it. You don't.
[59:34] Speaker 1: Let him do it.
[59:34] Speaker 2: No.
[59:36] Speaker 1: When he leaves, you don't have a choice?
[59:38] Speaker 3: No, but he's still here, though. But he's still here.
[59:41] Speaker 2: Why would you not practice now?
[59:42] Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to.
[59:44] Speaker 2: Because you're not going to be ready when he leaves, then.
[59:46] Speaker 1: You don't want to practice now, and you're not ready now.
[59:48] Speaker 1: How are you going to be ready when he leaves?
[59:49] Speaker 2: Maybe it's just you don't want it.
[59:51] Speaker 4: It ain't in him. Maybe he's forever. You're telling me.
[59:56] Speaker 4: Maybe he's forever Robin. You're telling me I can take
[59:59] Speaker 4: 25 shots. I can't believe y'all are.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: Attributing this to AD not wanting to take shots in
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: comparison to if y'all don't.
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: Get this dude off the court so I can shoot
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: the ball.
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: No, being the guy.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: I am the guy.
[1:00:13] Speaker 3: No, you a guy.
[1:00:14] Speaker 1: I am the guy.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: I am the guy. He refuses to get out the way.
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: Why does it have to do with him?
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: Because he's 40.
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: He has no input.
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: Like, he was 40 when I had the first 25 shots,
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: which means I took 23 shots in three quarters.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: He was 40 then, and I got my shots then.
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: The Austin Reeves start.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: Huh? The Austin Reeves start.
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: Did Austin Reeves start in the game? No, I don't
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: think so. No, he didn't. He aged during the game.
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent, Dog Connect. Was it a game? No Reeves,
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: no D-Lo. No Reeves, no D-Lo. Lil' D-Lo. No Reeves,
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: no D-Lo, LeBron, Rui, and AD. When? Shoot.
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: Bronny was not available with the left field injury as well.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me AD got to ask
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: for permission?
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: That's the problem. He got to ask for permission for
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: the 40-year-old dude to give me the ball in the
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: fourth quarter? Why is LeBron not the point guard that
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: you say he is to say give him the ball
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: every time? It don't got to come from the coach
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: no more. I'm LeBron. I run the show here.
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: If this my ship, AD got to touch the ball
[1:01:25] Speaker 2: eight times in the fourth every fourth. So, JJ, you're
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: going to have to take the blame for this. So
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: LeBron took, since AD wasn't in the game, LeBron took one.
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: Two, three, four shots. To start the fourth. He took
[1:01:56] Speaker 3: four shots before AD got in.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: So that means AD was shooting more shots than LeBron James. Hmm.
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: 28.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: 13 for 28. Mm-hmm.
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, four of those, 88 in the game. In the fourth. Yeah.
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: 40 years old. So this ain't got.
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: So, no, no, no.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: LeBron did have 14 assists in the game.
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: Now we got to figure out.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: To start the game off... Okay, so, let's see. Rui
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: took him a three, right? The neck got him a shot. Okay,
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: Rui took him another three. Okay, this... Okay, he took this.
[1:02:32] Speaker 2: So LeBron didn't get a shot to the first three
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: minutes of the game in the fourth.
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: Max, he chucked him a three up there.
[1:02:39] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: Let me see.
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: Oh, LeBron got him a little three on up in there. But,
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: I mean, everybody's shooting.
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: That's the problem. Everybody's shooting.
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: Everybody's shooting in the fourth? Yeah. Except for AD. Except
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: for AD.
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: So how does that make sense? We got to ask.
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: We got to ask.
[1:02:58] Speaker 3: Hey, fellas.
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: Hey.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: Hey, Rui.
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: See him?
[1:03:02] Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter, why you don't like passing 80
[1:03:04] Speaker 5: the ball? When we swing it to you, why you
[1:03:06] Speaker 5: want to shoot and not give it 80?
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean? That's the thing. I
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: think LeBron said it. Hey, motherfucker. I'm open.
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: Swing, swing.
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: I think LeBron said it, right?
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: Or if you asked me where that shit, he'd be like,
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: I looked at me when looking at me.
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: LeBron said it, right? Swing, swing.
[1:03:24] Speaker 5: AD might have to say the same shit.
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: Swing, swing.
[1:03:27] Speaker 5: When LeBron give it to you, that don't mean shoot
[1:03:29] Speaker 5: it one moment.
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: I'm open.
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, we know you're trying to get LeBron to assist.
[1:03:33] Speaker 5: I mean, you're supposed to be a star in this league.
[1:03:37] Speaker 5: And you're telling me you can't demand the ball. Like, okay,
[1:03:40] Speaker 5: you can't demand it from LeBron, but the other players
[1:03:42] Speaker 5: get the ball, too, because they taking shots. So you
[1:03:45] Speaker 5: saying when Chrissy get out there, you can't say, bitch,
[1:03:47] Speaker 5: give me the ball, huh?
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: Rui, you got Gabe Vincent, you can't say, hey, pick
[1:03:51] Speaker 2: and roll. Pick and roll, little motherfucker, let's go.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Like, you, come on. Y'all out there just.
[1:03:58] Speaker 2: Pick and pop and if you don't throw this bitch back.
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: Oh, he mean.
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: Oh, he's so mean to me. He talk so mean.
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: You know the sensitive-ass NBA now? AD, he's such a
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: mean leader. He yells and curses at me and tells
[1:04:14] Speaker 1: me to pass it to him.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: It's a punk-ass league.
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: So AD can't even say shit to the dudes that
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: he want to say it to because of... He going
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: to run the rob and be like, hey, man, you're
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: bullying me, man.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Yeah, what are you
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: going to do? You think Gabe Vincent is going to
[1:04:30] Speaker 2: run the rob?
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: We see him running that.
[1:04:33] Speaker 5: He can't run to his Instagram account and we going
[1:04:36] Speaker 5: to listen to him.
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: They ran to the lawyers.
[1:04:37] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: That's Drake.
[1:04:40] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: This is Gabe. This is Gabe. Gabe. Listen. He running
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: to somebody. If he don't show up the next game,
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: trust me, he won't even get fined. You only play
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: six guys.
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: You need him. No, we don't.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: Yes, you do.
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: No, we don't. You do. Who you going to play
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: in front of him?
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: Tell him.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: Who else you got? Huh? Who else you got? I'll wait.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: Okay, he did good last night. Okay, he did good.
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: Who is this?
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: So AD is second overall this season in most fourth
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: quarter field goal attempts for the Lakers.
[1:05:11] Speaker 1: Who the fuck is Armel? Huh?
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: Yes, that should be. What?
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: You said he's second?
[1:05:20] Speaker 4: I said LeBron first, AD second, Austin Reed first.
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: He should be first. He should be first.
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: But he's not.
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: That's my point.
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: Move aside.
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: You have no reason to still be here. What are
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: the numbers?
[1:05:32] Speaker 5: What is the shooting between the first three quarters? I
[1:05:35] Speaker 5: guarantee you 80's blowing him out if he's only taking
[1:05:38] Speaker 5: one or two shots in the fourth quarter. So if
[1:05:41] Speaker 5: you put it in the first three quarters when they
[1:05:44] Speaker 5: both are playing... What is their shots up? Like, that's
[1:05:48] Speaker 5: how you got to do it.
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: We were getting that information. Because we know one is
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: disappearing in the fourth.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: Then we ask the question, AD, do you want to
[1:05:53] Speaker 1: take more shots in the fourth?
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: That's the question.
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: Because you can't say AD disappears and AD says, hey, man,
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: the ball just never find me.
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: It never find you?
[1:06:03] Speaker 5: I mean, Haslam took more shots than he did, and
[1:06:05] Speaker 5: he's like the fifth option in the fourth quarter on
[1:06:08] Speaker 5: the team.
[1:06:08] Speaker 2: So fourth quarter field goal attempts, LeBron 97. A.D.
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: 60. What?
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: Austin Reeves 54.
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: Wait, wait. Say that again? Yeah. Ron has played two
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: more games. No, no, no. Fuck that. Fuck that.
[1:06:23] Speaker 3: Second and third place.
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: A.D. 60.
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: Austin Reeves third place 54.
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: A.D.
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: Leading the team in field goal time tonight.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: Bitch, I got a billboard. Several billboards throughout the greater
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: Los Angeles area.
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: They call me the Caucasian. They call me the Caucasian Jordan.
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: Six less shots?
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: In A.D.? Yeah. Six less? Because if you take away
[1:06:52] Speaker 1: the 30 more that's in front of me, He's nowhere
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: near me.
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: Two more games, though.
[1:06:57] Speaker 5: If you take away the 30 from him, Austin ain't
[1:07:01] Speaker 5: passing the ball to him.
[1:07:02] Speaker 1: They have to trickle it down. Not a chance.
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: No.
[1:07:05] Speaker 1: D-Lo, all them other guys are taking shots.
[1:07:09] Speaker 4: One thing I'm going to tell you, one thing for sure,
[1:07:10] Speaker 4: two things for certain. If LeBron went out to Austin Reeves,
[1:07:12] Speaker 4: he'd take more shots than LeBron.
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: So LeBron played all 20 games. AD and Reeves both
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: played 18 games this season. But like I said, AD
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: leading the team in field goal attempts per game in 19.
[1:07:24] Speaker 2: LeBron second at 17, also reoccurring. The first three quarters,
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: they featuring him. In the fourth quarter, everybody like, my turn.
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: And he's a big, he can shoot free throws. He can, like,
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: it just. Sometimes.
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: Like, it's one of the. Except when the game on
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: the line. It's just one of the things, man.
[1:07:38] Speaker 5: Like, you have to be mindful as a coach to
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: understand that.
[1:07:42] Speaker 3: Like, that's what I said.
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: If I'm coaching and I know he disappears in the fourth,
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: I'm going to start him off the fourth. Like LeBron sitting.
[1:07:50] Speaker 2: Anybody that's aggressive, sit your ass down. Yeah.
[1:07:52] Speaker 7: Right?
[1:07:52] Speaker 5: We're going to just run the ball to him. Because
[1:07:55] Speaker 5: if he's getting fouled by the time.
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: LeBron gets in, no heavy lifting.
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:08:00] Speaker 2: There's no heavy lifting.
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: I'm going to, while he's in, like, treat this motherfucker
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: like Shaq and Kobe.
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: Right? Kobe's sitting Shaq. We just going to feed you
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: the fucking ball. By the time Kobe get in, we
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: damn near in the penalty.
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: Hot rod going to do hot rod stuff.
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. I think
[1:08:15] Speaker 2: we've done enough discussion on America's team. A.
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: Not enough?
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: I said LeBron James is A. That was the original question.
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: He gets an A +. Plus. Thank you, Gil.
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: 22.
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: A plus plus.
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: Plus plus.
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: Okay. Average of 23.9 and 8 rebounds per game. Thank you.
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: But let's keep it moving. The Lakers are on the
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: road tonight taking on Ant-Man and the Wolves, and we're
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: hosting a live watch party on playback for the game.
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[1:08:49] Speaker 2: You already know Gil has no chill, so it's going
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: to be legendary. Maybe Sean will make a a cameo
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: tonight as well to come support his secretly favorite player.
[1:08:57] Speaker 2: You know, he's busy.
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: Support his team.
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: You can haywire. We need balance. Got my jersey all
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[1:09:05] Speaker 1: You get Haywatch.
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: You get Haywatch.
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[1:09:40] Speaker 1: Ain't gonna laugh your foot off.
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
[1:09:45] Speaker 6: Oh!
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: Whoa!
[1:09:45] Speaker 5: I said, I want a LaMelo jersey busted-ass Kwame Brown jersey.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: I feel sorry. Somebody's gonna shoot it. Oh, shoot the
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: first one! No, shoot the first one! That's a problem!
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: Could you train me in ball if I come to L.A.?
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: Celebrity trainers training everybody but basketball players. I don't give
[1:10:04] Speaker 2: a f * * * if Travis Barton can shoot.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: But if he's a basketball player, yes, sir.
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: You know, you guys had that 54 slander fest last week.
[1:10:12] Speaker 2: My dad told me to tell all y'all, fuck y'all.
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: 54 is a good number. Yeah, that wasn't me. Shout
[1:10:20] Speaker 1: out Rodney Rogers as well.
[1:10:22] Speaker 2: There's been some good 54.
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: Rodney Rogers. You got to have a certain huffness to have.
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: It feels heavy. Debo was nice. It looks heavy.
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: And I got more. I got more car and brown jerseys.
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: I know you do, Gims. I got the Philly one.
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: You got to hold, you got to replace all the jerseys.
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: So head over to playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas tonight at
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: 5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern for our live watch party.
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: It's going to be a great time. All right, well,
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: let's talk about the other team in Los Angeles. Clippers
[1:10:51] Speaker 2: been holding it down while they wait for Kawhi Leonard
[1:10:54] Speaker 2: to make his season debut, thanks in large part to
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: some vintage bucket getting by James Harden. So, after dropping
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: 43 on the Wizards Dome last week, the Beard did
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: some cooking against a real team, giving the Nuggets 39
[1:11:05] Speaker 2: nine rebounds and 11 dimes, going 10 for 26 from
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: the field, six for 15 from deep, and 13 for 13.
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: From the line.
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: In his last three games, Harden has averaged 34 points,
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: 10 assists, and six rebounds. So Norm Powell also did
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: his thing, came up with 28 points. He was five
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: for eight from deep. And Amir Coffey and Terrence Mann
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: combined for 28 points off the bench. On the Nuggets side,
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: Joker messed around and dropped another triple-double. He had 28 points,
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: 14 rebounds, 11 dimes. It was his 138th career triple-double
[1:11:31] Speaker 2: tying him with Magic Johnson. Jamal Murray and MPJ both
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: had 18, and seven Nuggets scored in double figures. So
[1:11:39] Speaker 2: late in the game, the Nuggets cut the Clippers' lead
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: to two in the final moments, but Harden sealed the
[1:11:43] Speaker 2: win by hitting two free throws with eight seconds remaining.
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: But let's Enjoy these moments. Into a dome, proving to
[1:11:51] Speaker 2: be a very good home atmosphere still.
[1:11:55] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: Reincarnated.
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: He even did the.
[1:12:02] Speaker 1: He's stirring the pot, stirring the pot.
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: So are you surprised to see the Clippers playing this
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: well without Kawhi? They won seven of their last nine games,
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: currently seventh in the West, but only three games behind
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: OKC for the top spot. So older James Harden.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: With the mentality of the younger James Harden, as far
[1:12:20] Speaker 1: as leadership and trying to facilitate, get the younger guys involved.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: I think it's a good time for him right now.
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: It's a lot of things that I think he likes
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: to prove in his leadership role as he's older, that
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do as much. We can still
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: kind of get it done. I picked him 2.5 threes
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: over higher, and I knew he was going to go.
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: It was like an insult. James can't get three threes. Like, yeah,
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: I can get that. So I like the way James
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: is playing. I like the way the Clippers are playing.
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: It's not going to last as long as we think
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: it's going to last, but just the energy to see
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: that they out there.
[1:12:59] Speaker 2: Fighting without Kawhi. Yeah.
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: It just shows a lot of resilience.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: Like I said, 13-9, seventh in the West right now.
[1:13:07] Speaker 2: Very surprising. At one point earlier in the season, we
[1:13:09] Speaker 2: were talking about maybe the Thunder snatching.
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: That top four protected pick from him, but... Good to
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: see him bouncing back. Can you read your thoughts on
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: the Clippers so far while they wait for Kawhi to
[1:13:21] Speaker 2: make his return?
[1:13:23] Speaker 4: I like the way they're playing. I said it earlier
[1:13:27] Speaker 4: in the show earlier this year. The addition has nothing
[1:13:31] Speaker 4: to do with players, but the addition of Jeff Van
[1:13:35] Speaker 4: Gundy to that staff and emphasis on defense, the way
[1:13:38] Speaker 4: they're playing defensively, I think is the key. We knew
[1:13:43] Speaker 4: James was capable of having big scoring outputs, not surprised
[1:13:49] Speaker 4: in that. But we thought, like, Gil said he could
[1:13:53] Speaker 4: average 30.
[1:13:54] Speaker 3: I said averaging.
[1:13:57] Speaker 4: Low 20s and high assists is a good formula, but
[1:14:01] Speaker 4: he's going to need some of these outputs throughout the
[1:14:03] Speaker 4: season without Kawhi.
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: So 22-9, seven rebounds so far this season, playing 34
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: minutes a game.
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:14:11] Speaker 4: I mean, they're holding it down until Kawhi gets back
[1:14:14] Speaker 4: because we don't know when that's going to be. To
[1:14:17] Speaker 4: be above 500 right now, hey, you're.
[1:14:22] Speaker 3: Not going to ask for it at this point, right?
[1:14:25] Speaker 4: In a tough, tough Western Conference, so yeah.
[1:14:34] Speaker 2: You think James will win a championship?
[1:14:37] Speaker 1: No.
[1:14:37] Speaker 2: Okay. Is this a championship for him?
[1:14:43] Speaker 5: Paul George leaves, Russ leaves, Kawhi's out, and he gets
[1:14:47] Speaker 5: this team.
[1:14:50] Speaker 2: To the playoffs. Made the playoffs in every season in
[1:14:52] Speaker 2: his career.
[1:14:53] Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, when we look at his career,
[1:14:58] Speaker 5: and when someone says, this person's a winner, this person's
[1:15:03] Speaker 5: a loser, to look at this roster, and he's managing.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: these guys. He has these guys playing basketball that we've
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: never seen.
[1:15:12] Speaker 5: We've never seen Zubac playing like this. We've never seen
[1:15:14] Speaker 5: Powell playing like this. So to have them looking the
[1:15:18] Speaker 5: way they look.
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: Is this like one of those things that say you
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: got to put some respect on his name? Because he
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: could easily just say, man, fuck this. Let me go
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: out there and just chuck this shit. And no one
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: would even bat an eye. Right? So the fact that
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: he's averaging nine, ten assists, passing these guys the ball,
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: making them feel.
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:15:37] Speaker 4: Well, this is his opportunity to be a leader, right?
[1:15:45] Speaker 4: Which people, he's been a hell of a basketball player,
[1:15:49] Speaker 4: and his numbers have been what they was, and people
[1:15:52] Speaker 4: have always questioned that part of it, right? So for
[1:15:57] Speaker 4: him to be in that role now while Kawhi is out,
[1:16:00] Speaker 4: PG is gone, it's a different, he's older now, so
[1:16:03] Speaker 4: he's looking to do different things and and to rely
[1:16:06] Speaker 4: on his guys a little more at times. So I think,
[1:16:08] Speaker 4: to your point, yes, and just to add on what
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: Rashard was saying, I think that leadership part is something
[1:16:16] Speaker 4: that he's trying to prove to people that he can be. So, yeah,
[1:16:22] Speaker 4: if he gets to the playoffs, and we don't know
[1:16:24] Speaker 4: how long Kawhi is going to be out if he's
[1:16:26] Speaker 4: going to play this year.
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: Can you bring him back? You need him. For what?
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: The All-NBA?
[1:16:34] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:16:37] Speaker 4: Talent, caliber, player, solid. If you get in the playoffs, right?
[1:16:42] Speaker 4: I don't think you bring him back just specifically for
[1:16:44] Speaker 4: the playoffs. No, that's a mistake.
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: But if the team was nasty right now, let's say
[1:16:49] Speaker 2: they didn't have a good start. Come March, right?
[1:16:52] Speaker 4: Just say if he's out through December, starting the new year,
[1:16:57] Speaker 4: we see what the record is starting the.
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: New year, right?
[1:17:02] Speaker 4: You give it January... Because he's got a lot of
[1:17:05] Speaker 4: games in January. Every team plays at least 17 games
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: in January. I see where we are after January. Then
[1:17:14] Speaker 4: if it's looking bleak.
[1:17:15] Speaker 2: Then no. You know what I'm saying is... I'm saying
[1:17:19] Speaker 2: that you don't bring him back. Let's say he comes back,
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: plays in January, and he's showing signs.
[1:17:24] Speaker 3: February, March.
[1:17:25] Speaker 2: Do you trade him?
[1:17:28] Speaker 1: Is he tradable?
[1:17:29] Speaker 3: He's not tradable. If he's showing any type of... I
[1:17:33] Speaker 3: don't think nobody's taking that chance.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: You know that you talk about goods and services. You're like,
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: I'm not buying that if it don't look like it.
[1:17:40] Speaker 2: Remember, there's always a dummy that's willing to buy something.
[1:17:44] Speaker 1: You can always trick a motherfucker to buy something, right?
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: Put some lipstick on, some lipstick on. Still a pig.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: Still a pig. It's a pig. Look through these little goggles. Ray.
[1:17:56] Speaker 9: Oh, that's a nice-ass lady right there.
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: Speaking of Kawhi, on Friday, Ty Lue said he's back
[1:18:02] Speaker 2: on the court doing workouts, and during a recent episode
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: of his show, Pat Bev revealed a convo he had
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: with the Claw recently.
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: I talked to Kawhi on the phone yesterday. He's hitting
[1:18:12] Speaker 1: him up like a fucking machine.
[1:18:13] Speaker 2: Claw.
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: That's why I got him in my phone.
[1:18:15] Speaker 2: Claw. The league stinks right now. Views are low.
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: I agree.
[1:18:22] Speaker 2: They are waiting on the clock.
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: I say, tell my boy Jerm, I say, lock the
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: fuck in.
[1:18:26] Speaker 3: He say, I'm going to get right. I'm on the way.
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: Silent assassin.
[1:18:31] Speaker 2: So good to your point. But how dangerous is this
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: Clipper squad with the healthy Kawhi and Harden or somewhat
[1:18:35] Speaker 2: healthy Kawhi and Harden playing at this level?
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: Does anybody buy Clipper vision?
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: Did you say dangerous? Huh? I was trying to get the,
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: he asked you a question. How dangerous?
[1:18:48] Speaker 3: I was trying to get the exact question that he asked.
[1:18:49] Speaker 2: A little dangerous, a lot dangerous, no danger?
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: It's a scale.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: A scale of danger.
[1:18:53] Speaker 4: No, you was asking Gil. I just wanted to hear.
[1:18:55] Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure I had the, no,
[1:18:56] Speaker 4: you said Gil. To start, but it was a question
[1:18:59] Speaker 4: for the count. So let Gil answer it. I just
[1:19:00] Speaker 4: wanted to make sure I heard the question correctly before
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: I answered it.
[1:19:03] Speaker 3: A level of danger.
[1:19:04] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: A level. It could be zero.
[1:19:06] Speaker 5: I mean, Kawhi coming back, yeah, it heightens the team
[1:19:09] Speaker 5: because now you got two star players out there, one
[1:19:12] Speaker 5: all-NBA player. So, yeah, I mean, they become better than
[1:19:16] Speaker 5: they are now in theory, but hypothetically.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: What's?
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: Shit, I mean, how many games are we going to
[1:19:31] Speaker 3: get you for, big fella?
[1:19:32] Speaker 1: You know?
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: The views is down, yeah.
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: They've been down for a minute on you.
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been... You asked how many people have Clipper vision?
[1:19:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, he said the view's down.
[1:19:42] Speaker 3: I mean, no one watches Clipper games.
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: I think he's talking about across the league.
[1:19:46] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure when you are playing, nobody tunes
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: in to the Clipper games. It's just FYI.
[1:19:54] Speaker 3: Just FYI. But if he comes back, cool.
[1:19:59] Speaker 2: If not, It comes to the point where they're at
[1:20:06] Speaker 2: a real standstill.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: And the standstill is this.
[1:20:11] Speaker 2: Moving to your new direction that's rebuilding. Are you going
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: to rebuild with both your superstars and you got to
[1:20:18] Speaker 2: figure out to get rid of them?
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: Or you have Harden.
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: Playing his last days and making these guys better for
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: his exit, or do you want Kawhi coming back playing
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: his last days? Like, who's going to put you in
[1:20:33] Speaker 2: a better situation to move forward with? That's really how
[1:20:38] Speaker 2: you look at it.
[1:20:38] Speaker 5: Like, if you can get something right now for Kawhi,
[1:20:42] Speaker 5: he was all NBA last year, so somebody's going to bite.
[1:20:46] Speaker 5: You're going to get big biters at Kawhi to bring
[1:20:50] Speaker 5: back some new pieces that you can bring in and say,
[1:20:52] Speaker 5: all right, this is my rollout plan.
[1:20:54] Speaker 2: Right? Versus, you know, James Harden. Because... Kawhi under contract
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: this evening and the next two years after that. He
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: signed that three-year, $ 150 million deal last year. You can
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: trick Utah to get rid of marketing. You can trick
[1:21:07] Speaker 2: a motherfucker, trust me. You can trick Detroit out of
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: some shit. Mm.
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: It seems to me that the Lakers and the Clippers
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: are the same team. Whoa, relax, bro. Relax, man. You
[1:21:21] Speaker 1: know why?
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: Don't even put that in the scene. Okay, you think
[1:21:24] Speaker 2: both of them are headed?
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: James Harden is Anthony Davis. Whoa, broski. Whoa. James Harden
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: is the star on his team. He's without his other star, right?
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: He's smoking. It's the opposite. The role players for the Clippers, right,
[1:21:43] Speaker 1: are holding the team together. The role players. James Harden
[1:21:49] Speaker 1: is being the facilitator. Older in age, similar to AD.
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: AD could be in the same position to do what
[1:21:57] Speaker 1: James is doing. Becoming the leader of the team in
[1:22:01] Speaker 1: which he was brought in to be the leader of. Kawhi, yeah,
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: you got here before I got here, but you can't
[1:22:06] Speaker 1: stay healthy. So let me do it. Let me do
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: it with less. Let me do it with less. Let's
[1:22:12] Speaker 1: show you how we can do it with less. Let
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: me be the focal point. If you're unreliable and you
[1:22:18] Speaker 1: can't get it done and they trade you and they
[1:22:19] Speaker 1: give us even more reliable pieces, I think we can
[1:22:22] Speaker 1: get somewhere. But if we can't get nowhere with you
[1:22:24] Speaker 1: being unreliable, what the fuck are we doing? It's the
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: same thing with the Lakers.
[1:22:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got it mixed up, though. Regardless. LeBron,
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: who's reliable. But LeBron's not the young guy. He's not
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: the young guy.
[1:22:36] Speaker 3: That should be the point.
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: The young, proven guy.
[1:22:39] Speaker 5: That the four-year-old has to be the most reliable player
[1:22:42] Speaker 5: on the court.
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: That's the bad part. Yeah, it's bad because the NBA's trash.
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: You got a 40-year-old holding a teen together and don't
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: want to hand it off to.
[1:22:50] Speaker 2: The younger guy. No, he can't. It's like he can't.
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: So Kawhi, you can't take Kawhi. Like if I say, yeah,
[1:22:55] Speaker 1: take the wheel.
[1:22:56] Speaker 3: And like we've been driving.
[1:22:57] Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, King, take over.
[1:22:59] Speaker 2: Right? Oh, shit.
[1:23:00] Speaker 1: See? He's been watching. Like, crash.
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: Crash.
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: That's what happens.
[1:23:05] Speaker 2: And that's why he don't want to give it. That's
[1:23:08] Speaker 2: the reason I can't give it to him.
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: Because he's sleep. Like, yo, King, take it. Yeah, huh?
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: What happened? I'm trying to give you the wheel. I'm tired.
[1:23:17] Speaker 1: I want to give you the wheel so you can
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: drive forward.
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: And you sitting on the phone, you've been smoking and drinking.
[1:23:23] Speaker 5: Like, LeBron's like, yeah, I don't know if I want
[1:23:25] Speaker 5: to give you the wheel to this car.
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: But like James, Kawhi didn't have a choice to give
[1:23:33] Speaker 1: him the keys at this point. Kawhi has to give
[1:23:35] Speaker 1: James the keys. So there ain't been a place like
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: that for the Lakers where I got to give you
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: the keys.
[1:23:41] Speaker 2: Here you go.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: James is in a better position to show his leadership.
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: And that's why I'm.
[1:23:46] Speaker 1: Only giving that reference because it's like they're both high,
[1:23:49] Speaker 1: high level players. One is given the opportunity right now
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: to show his leadership after his talent has faded a
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: little bit. The other is sitting behind somebody else who's
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: way older than him. So he's waiting for opportunity to
[1:24:00] Speaker 1: do what James is doing to show I can be
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: the leader of the Lakers. And James is trying to,
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: I can be the leader of the Clippers. I think
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: it's both the same kind of message.
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: That's the problem, man.
[1:24:14] Speaker 5: How long does someone sit aside while you're not being aggressive?
[1:24:18] Speaker 2: Like, how many minutes?
[1:24:20] Speaker 1: How many minutes can you sit there and....
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: Before it kicks in, like, oh, shit, we got to stop.
[1:24:30] Speaker 2: We still got to try to win this game, y'all.
[1:24:32] Speaker 1: Everybody go back active.
[1:24:34] Speaker 5: Like, how long do you.
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: How long are... Like, he came in the game....
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: Oh, you're not warm yet.
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: Got it, got it. What's the difference, though? The difference
[1:24:46] Speaker 1: is James Harden is the point guard. He can facilitate
[1:24:49] Speaker 1: who gets the ball. AD not bringing that bitch up.
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: He can't be like, hey, man, the point guard do that.
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: That's why James is good at this position, and Kawhi
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do what James is doing because
[1:25:01] Speaker 1: he ain't a point guard. He's a guy who gets
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: the ball, puts it in the basket. James makes everyone
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: feel like they have an opportunity to be a part
[1:25:09] Speaker 1: of the game.
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: Man, I understand what you're saying, but I've never, I've
[1:25:14] Speaker 2: never in my life, this must be hard to do.
[1:25:19] Speaker 9: Yo!
[1:25:22] Speaker 2: Bring that bitch over here. Rudy does it.
[1:25:26] Speaker 1: Bring that bitch over here. What'd they do to Rudy?
[1:25:30] Speaker 1: Rudy Goldberg. Hey! That's Rudy Goldberg.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: We don't speak English.
[1:25:40] Speaker 1: It literally happens. But that makes sense. We don't speak
[1:25:44] Speaker 1: that language. He gets the ball more. He's more aggressive
[1:25:48] Speaker 1: than AD in the fourth quarter.
[1:25:49] Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that.
[1:25:51] Speaker 1: That's your man. It's the Lakers. No, what I'm saying...
[1:25:54] Speaker 1: You got to talk to him. You talk to them.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: Be honest. He calling your phone after this. When we
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: watch the game, who.
[1:25:59] Speaker 5: Looks more like they want the ball in the fourth quarter?
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: Okay, that's different. Okay, that's all I'm saying. He don't
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: ever get the ball, though. But he never get... But
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: who looks like... He wanted, yeah. It comes to a
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: point where I'm like... Throw it to him. Just throw
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: it to him.
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: Throw it to him one time. Like, I'm starting to
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: feel bad for the goddamn Rudy over there.
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: Like, come on, man.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: Y'all just.
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: He just walk away. Like, he's knocking in every time. Hey! Like,
[1:26:23] Speaker 1: come on, man.
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: He turn around like, man, I'm going to.
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: Give you the ball.
[1:26:25] Speaker 2: Like, I'm starting to feel bad. Like, man, just throw
[1:26:27] Speaker 2: that motherfucker the ball, man. He getting open, man. That
[1:26:29] Speaker 2: is damn shame down there. But... That's what we want
[1:26:32] Speaker 2: to see from AD.
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: Like, come on, man. Like, at least want it. Well,
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: think about James. Let me ignore you for it and
[1:26:38] Speaker 1: look bad on you. James played lethargic with the other
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: two players. That was there until they started to just,
[1:26:44] Speaker 1: once they're gone, James is starting to play like, he's like, bro,
[1:26:47] Speaker 1: I can do this. This is the best part of
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: my game. I couldn't do that with y'all guys because
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: y'all want what I got. I got the ball.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: I'm a playmaker.
[1:26:56] Speaker 1: Let me be the playmaker.
[1:26:57] Speaker 5: So you got to ask that question, man, because, like,
[1:27:00] Speaker 5: outside of LeBron, when you talk about everybody, like, why
[1:27:04] Speaker 5: are the other players ignoring him?
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big question.
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: That's a big question. Because I'm sorry. There's no respect.
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: You got Shaq and Kobe, right?
[1:27:14] Speaker 2: There's no way, right, if Shaq's on the court, Kobe's
[1:27:17] Speaker 2: going to allow the other three to ignore him. That's
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: not going to happen, right? It's... You remember the.
[1:27:24] Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, then?
[1:27:27] Speaker 5: You got Joe Johnson on the team, and.
[1:27:29] Speaker 2: You had Jamal Crawford. Paul Millsap.
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Jamal going to be able to hate, man.
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: Listen.
[1:27:36] Speaker 5: Bring that shit to me. And then you got Joe
[1:27:38] Speaker 5: whispering to you, hey, man, look, I don't give a
[1:27:39] Speaker 5: fuck what you do. Last five minutes, bring that shit
[1:27:42] Speaker 5: to me. Like, so you got Teague out there.
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: Like, uh. Who do I give it to? It's my time.
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: Let me shoot. Uh, start your ball. Like, you got to. Joe,
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: fuck it.
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: Right, because you already know, both going to whisper who
[1:27:57] Speaker 2: getting that ball.
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: And that's really how it is. So it's like, come on, man, like.
[1:28:04] Speaker 5: You got to want it for you first before I
[1:28:06] Speaker 5: can want it for you.
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: I mean, you know.
[1:28:09] Speaker 5: Because I see somebody who don't get the ball still
[1:28:13] Speaker 5: call for it. Every game. You know Rudy has going
[1:28:16] Speaker 5: to be out there every game. Jumping his happy ass
[1:28:19] Speaker 5: in the lane every game. Going to cause the three seconds.
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:28:22] Speaker 1: Give it to me. Give it to me. Three seconds.
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: And then look at you like, should have passed me
[1:28:28] Speaker 1: the ball.
[1:28:29] Speaker 2: I throw it in here. It becomes a point like,
[1:28:33] Speaker 2: I mean, shit, he is defensive player.
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: Whose turnover is that when you do that? Whoever got
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: the ball. No, it can't be.
[1:28:40] Speaker 3: Whose turnover is that?
[1:28:41] Speaker 1: Teams? Three second.
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: Ooh. Is that to do with the ball? It can't be.
[1:28:46] Speaker 2: It goes as a team turnover?
[1:28:49] Speaker 3: Might be a team turnover. Is that a team turnover?
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: So, we will look that up. But you talked about
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: Harden's influence and impact and maybe not getting the respect
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: and love he deserves. So, Nesgaard, Cam Thomas, only 23
[1:29:00] Speaker 2: years old, already a certified bucket getter. Thomas made an
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: appearance on the Draymond Green show with Baron Davis recently
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: and had this to say when asked whose game had
[1:29:08] Speaker 2: more influence on his generation between Harden and Steph.
[1:29:11] Speaker 8: I think we really gravitated towards James because James was
[1:29:14] Speaker 8: doing the ISOs and breaking people down one-on-one, scoring the
[1:29:17] Speaker 8: 40s and 50s. I think Steph really changed the way
[1:29:20] Speaker 8: teams wanted to play the game of basketball, shooting the threes,
[1:29:24] Speaker 8: the pace y'all play at, just moving around without the ball.
[1:29:28] Speaker 8: I think Steph really changed the way the teams around
[1:29:30] Speaker 8: the league tried to play. James really changed the individual
[1:29:34] Speaker 8: play of, you know, players, like the isos, really me,
[1:29:37] Speaker 8: just the isos, the handles, step backs, shooting tough shots,
[1:29:41] Speaker 8: you know, just the foul drawing, just all that stuff.
[1:29:44] Speaker 8: I think James really changed the individual skill of how
[1:29:47] Speaker 8: players wanted to play the game.
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: So Gil, I see you. First, we'll get to that discretion.
[1:29:51] Speaker 2: Then second, your baby photo is on the ornament.
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: Where y'all get the baby photos from, man? Did you
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: see this? Oh, I didn't notice that, man.
[1:30:01] Speaker 2: Baby photos on the morning.
[1:30:02] Speaker 5: Ain't got no baby photos of my son.
[1:30:03] Speaker 2: Look out.
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: Oh, happy as shit. That is not me.
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: That is not me. That is not me.
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: Oh, happy. Look at him. That is not me.
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: That's a bad-ass little kid right there.
[1:30:15] Speaker 1: Who be? I ain't see you. I ain't see your face.
[1:30:19] Speaker 2: You already know you got my son.
[1:30:20] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Demon kid. You already know you got
[1:30:21] Speaker 1: a demon.
[1:30:22] Speaker 2: It's an omen.
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: Pushing people down steps.
[1:30:25] Speaker 2: Well, let's get back to that Cam Thomas clip. What's
[1:30:28] Speaker 2: your reaction to Cam Thomas saying Harden had more influence
[1:30:30] Speaker 2: on players while Steph had more influence on teams? He
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: was talking about his generation, looking at the two players.
[1:30:38] Speaker 2: He more emulated Harden's style because of ISOs. Oh, okay.
[1:30:44] Speaker 2: I hear what he's saying. We focus on us and not.
[1:30:47] Speaker 1: Or me. Focus on me and not us.
[1:30:50] Speaker 2: Fuck the big three.
[1:30:51] Speaker 3: Like, when he said it, you're like, wait, what?
[1:30:52] Speaker 5: Because, you know, you have every kid growing up, like, AAU,
[1:30:57] Speaker 5: everyone's chucking three, right? You have that going on, but
[1:31:02] Speaker 5: when you look at everybody has.
[1:31:04] Speaker 2: The bag, it's not Kirby's bag. It is a version
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: of James Harden's bag, right? The zero step.
[1:31:12] Speaker 5: All that stuff that was created, the zero step, the
[1:31:14] Speaker 5: two steps, the double step back.
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: All that really came from.
[1:31:20] Speaker 2: It really did come from James. When you see it translating, I.
[1:31:25] Speaker 5: Guess people feel they can pick that up versus being stiff.
[1:31:30] Speaker 2: Because that's harder. Because to be stiff, you had to
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: start that shit at an early age.
[1:31:37] Speaker 3: You can't just.
[1:31:39] Speaker 5: be at 16 years old saying, I'm going to be
[1:31:42] Speaker 5: like Steph Curry.
[1:31:43] Speaker 2: Sorry.
[1:31:44] Speaker 5: You're six to seven years too late of that. You
[1:31:47] Speaker 5: need to start those training sessions and working on your
[1:31:52] Speaker 5: shot at about eight, nine, ten for you to be
[1:31:55] Speaker 5: a daily shooter like that.
[1:31:56] Speaker 3: Let's talk about the reality, though.
[1:31:58] Speaker 1: Huh? About seven. About seven, yeah. I'm just like, I'm
[1:32:01] Speaker 1: about to be seven.
[1:32:02] Speaker 5: Hey, Cash was in the wind. I'd see him took
[1:32:06] Speaker 5: a jump shot, wind damn it, blew him off a.
[1:32:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, my sister out there shooting on Thanksgiving.
[1:32:11] Speaker 1: Shooting on Thanksgiving. Wind blowing.
[1:32:13] Speaker 5: He don't want out there shooting. Yeah, wind blowing, though. Like,
[1:32:16] Speaker 5: it's blowing out there.
[1:32:18] Speaker 3: He's shooting.
[1:32:18] Speaker 5: He out there in the terrains. The basket right there,
[1:32:21] Speaker 5: he like.
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: Is that okay?
[1:32:25] Speaker 2: Trajectory.
[1:32:26] Speaker 1: The reality for me is, like, Steph Curry showed you
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: that it's a lot more energy exerting to play the
[1:32:34] Speaker 1: way that I play in comparison to getting your one-on-one
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: move off Shooting the three like Steph being able to
[1:32:41] Speaker 1: move without the ball the way that he does is
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: there's a lot of energy and a guy like him
[1:32:49] Speaker 1: Like imagine him playing like Steph right now he was
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: out there in Brooklyn running around coming off back doors
[1:32:56] Speaker 1: and all that like his points per game would go
[1:32:57] Speaker 1: crazy because he has more to his game than just
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: a Me versus me step back That's where our game
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: has evolved to where a guy like Cam can get
[1:33:07] Speaker 1: on here and talk about how his individual game is
[1:33:10] Speaker 1: better than the team game.
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: We've gotten away from team. I think Cam Moore, just
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: from an offensive standpoint. Yeah, he's saying that Steph Curry,
[1:33:20] Speaker 2: the way Steph Curry played, made teams change and want
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: to be like that.
[1:33:26] Speaker 1: Versus like all the kids that shoot from half court.
[1:33:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a cap. But that's why they shoot
[1:33:31] Speaker 2: so many threes, because it goes the same. It's the
[1:33:33] Speaker 2: biggest cap ever.
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: It's just because he has a preference of liking James
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: Harden compared to Steph. Everyone likes to bring their preferences
[1:33:39] Speaker 1: in and create a divide with what everyone else likes
[1:33:43] Speaker 1: in their own opinions. You like Steph, it's because Steph
[1:33:46] Speaker 1: shoots a bunch of threes and he wins championships. You
[1:33:50] Speaker 1: like James because he scores 60 and 15 and he's
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: going to give you what you want, seven, eight threes.
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: It's a preference. It's a preference. But what leads to
[1:33:58] Speaker 1: championships and what doesn't? That's the difference to me.
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: I think Steph has had more effect on the game
[1:34:07] Speaker 4: individually and team.
[1:34:10] Speaker 2: For players a copy? Yeah.
[1:34:12] Speaker 1: Yeah. Facts.
[1:34:14] Speaker 4: The overall game. Not just the NBA game. The overall
[1:34:18] Speaker 4: game of basketball.
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: Steph.
[1:34:20] Speaker 3: Not just the NBA game.
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about that younger generation of hoopers.
[1:34:23] Speaker 4: Younger, just the overall game of basketball. Steph Curry has
[1:34:26] Speaker 4: had an individual impact on the way teams play and
[1:34:32] Speaker 4: individuals play.
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: Facts. Straight facts. It's hard.
[1:34:39] Speaker 4: Because everybody don't have that scoring ability like James.
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: Right, to hit those moves.
[1:34:45] Speaker 5: See, I think just the moves itself, when you're looking at, like, trainers, right?
[1:34:51] Speaker 3: And trainers are teaching moves.
[1:34:53] Speaker 5: They're teaching everything James Harden brought to the game.
[1:34:56] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:34:57] Speaker 2: Right? So when we're talking about packages, they're bringing the package.
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: I think what ends up happening is.
[1:35:05] Speaker 5: We want to say Curry– because of all the threes
[1:35:09] Speaker 5: that came in, but I think reality kicked in with him.
[1:35:13] Speaker 5: And I think when people, like, let's be like Curry,
[1:35:17] Speaker 5: they realize they can't.
[1:35:19] Speaker 3: I don't think they realize.
[1:35:19] Speaker 2: I can't.
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: They haven't. They can't realize. I can shoot a three
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: and they can potentially go in and I can say, Curry!
[1:35:25] Speaker 2: But see, that's not Curry. It's not, but it's like Curry.
[1:35:27] Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. Because.
[1:35:30] Speaker 5: you want me to be like Curry and then I
[1:35:31] Speaker 5: got to watch Curry and then I got to do
[1:35:33] Speaker 5: everything Curry do. I don't like that because I don't
[1:35:37] Speaker 5: want to be.
[1:35:38] Speaker 2: In shape like that.
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: That's what I was just saying.
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: It ain't that part of his game. Exactly. That is
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: the influence.
[1:35:47] Speaker 1: No, they just want the three.
[1:35:49] Speaker 4: And that's the biggest influence over.
[1:35:52] Speaker 2: But see, that's what I'm saying.
[1:35:53] Speaker 5: It's hard because They're not shooting the Curry through, they're
[1:35:56] Speaker 5: shooting the step back James.
[1:35:57] Speaker 1: But wait, the James package.
[1:35:58] Speaker 3: Because he's shooting, remember, he's doing the same thing.
[1:36:00] Speaker 1: The James package you're talking about, as a hooper, you
[1:36:03] Speaker 1: can't go out there and start from the beginner session
[1:36:06] Speaker 1: and go right into a James Harden package. James Harden's
[1:36:09] Speaker 1: package is elite. It's for elite players only. You got
[1:36:13] Speaker 1: to be elite to know how to pull it off,
[1:36:15] Speaker 1: get it off, and pop.
[1:36:16] Speaker 5: But when you're looking at trainers, when you're going to
[1:36:18] Speaker 5: all these trainers and all these kids in the NBA,
[1:36:21] Speaker 5: what are the trainers teaching them? They're not teaching them movement,
[1:36:24] Speaker 5: running around, come off, do the screen. They're not teaching
[1:36:27] Speaker 5: them that. They're teaching them, everybody from, I got 12 players,
[1:36:31] Speaker 5: everybody get to be James Harden today.
[1:36:32] Speaker 4: But you got, so you got a kid in high school.
[1:36:37] Speaker 4: What's happening during them games?
[1:36:39] Speaker 2: Triple teaming? Triple teaming? No, no, no, no.
[1:36:41] Speaker 3: How is everybody playing?
[1:36:43] Speaker 2: There's a lot of threes. They want to shoot threes.
[1:36:45] Speaker 1: There's a lot of.
[1:36:46] Speaker 4: The game you didn't come to the other day, I
[1:36:49] Speaker 4: went and watched Wesley play.
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: I was doing a playback. He was doing a playback.
[1:36:52] Speaker 1: Watch party.
[1:36:53] Speaker 2: He was doing a watch party. We were working. I
[1:36:55] Speaker 2: went to the game.
[1:36:58] Speaker 4: The team that they were playing in North Hollywood, there's
[1:37:01] Speaker 4: a kid that shot them up.
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: He was.
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: Listen. He was letting it go.
[1:37:04] Speaker 1: Bottom. Bottom.
[1:37:06] Speaker 2: But it's, I'm like, why is he, as soon as
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: he got, I'm like, as soon as he got ready,
[1:37:10] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you know me. I'm like, hell no.
[1:37:14] Speaker 1: Swashup draws.
[1:37:16] Speaker 4: Every time he catch, no matter where he was catching
[1:37:18] Speaker 4: it from, he cocking that thing. He shoot like Maricola
[1:37:21] Speaker 4: from the one to shoot at. He cocking it and
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: knocking that bitch down, though. And I'm like, and everybody
[1:37:26] Speaker 4: on the team, though, they just searching that line. It's like, everybody,
[1:37:32] Speaker 4: and everybody on the team, Nobody was taller than 6'1.
[1:37:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. You see, I don't look at Steph.
[1:37:39] Speaker 5: See, I think when I look at Steph, I don't
[1:37:42] Speaker 5: see just threes.
[1:37:44] Speaker 2: Me neither. Right? Like, if you're just going to shoot
[1:37:47] Speaker 2: a three, you're more Clay Thompson than you are. Because
[1:37:49] Speaker 2: he broke the record, right? Because people don't see the
[1:37:53] Speaker 2: way he finishes around the rim. They don't see his game.
[1:37:56] Speaker 2: Because in the game, you just shot nine for 17.
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: You shot nine for 17 and eight.
[1:38:05] Speaker 2: A 16 was.
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: You shot 16 threes.
[1:38:08] Speaker 5: But when we watch Steph, we know it ain't... Like,
[1:38:12] Speaker 5: everybody's more Klay Thompson than they are Steph Curry.
[1:38:15] Speaker 3: You're just catch-shoot threes, you.
[1:38:17] Speaker 1: Come off shoots.
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: You're not moving around, you're not setting screens, you're not.
[1:38:20] Speaker 1: Back-flowing, passing, cutting. You're not....
[1:38:24] Speaker 3: So I look at it like that.
[1:38:26] Speaker 4: Yes, Absolutely. But I'm talking about the masses. You have
[1:38:31] Speaker 4: a basketball hockey, you watch the game at a different level, right?
[1:38:34] Speaker 4: You watch the totality of it.
[1:38:35] Speaker 1: You know.
[1:38:36] Speaker 4: what Steph does to get open. You relax, I'm going
[1:38:38] Speaker 4: back door. You do this, I'ma screen slip. Screen come
[1:38:41] Speaker 4: off this, I'ma screen slip it this time. I'ma screen
[1:38:44] Speaker 4: come off this time, I'ma screen come off this time,
[1:38:46] Speaker 4: I'ma screen slip it, I'ma go act like I'ma set it,
[1:38:48] Speaker 4: then I'm, he do all of that. They don't see
[1:38:51] Speaker 4: none of that shit. They just see when he come
[1:38:53] Speaker 4: off that motherfucker, drop a hand off Draymond, drop that.
[1:38:55] Speaker 2: Bitch off, and he let that bitch fly. That's all
[1:38:56] Speaker 2: they see. They don't see what he did to get to.
[1:38:59] Speaker 2: They're both in the same generation. Right.
[1:39:02] Speaker 5: Like when James Harden was shooting, when he was averaging.
[1:39:05] Speaker 1: 34, coming and chucking threes. Yes.
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: They both got an argument for it.
[1:39:10] Speaker 2: Absolutely, they do.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:39:11] Speaker 3: They both got an argument for it. So I think
[1:39:12] Speaker 3: it's a mix of both.
[1:39:13] Speaker 4: It's the boom, boom, boom to James, joint to get
[1:39:16] Speaker 4: to the three. But it's Steph, everybody's seen what Steph
[1:39:19] Speaker 4: did at Davidson from their own and what he did
[1:39:24] Speaker 4: to be successful in college, how he shot the ball then.
[1:39:27] Speaker 4: And then you look at a guy like Trey Young
[1:39:29] Speaker 4: came along, and then it's, So it's stacked, right? It's
[1:39:34] Speaker 4: a small guard that can put that bitch in a
[1:39:36] Speaker 4: basket at an alarming rate and it's a lot of
[1:39:39] Speaker 4: threes with it. Damn the fact that he got.
[1:39:42] Speaker 3: That bitch on the screen and you can't.
[1:39:44] Speaker 5: Take the ball from him. They not taking the part.
[1:39:46] Speaker 5: They not taking the part. that makes Steph shot.
[1:39:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:39:51] Speaker 5: Like, what makes him get this off is everything else.
[1:39:55] Speaker 3: Because they can't.
[1:39:56] Speaker 2: The dribbling.
[1:39:57] Speaker 5: Like, his dribbling is fucking immaculate.
[1:40:01] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:40:01] Speaker 5: Like, how he's making people fumble over shit so he
[1:40:04] Speaker 5: can get the shot off.
[1:40:06] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:40:07] Speaker 5: His endurance, another reason to get the shot off.
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: You're just going from three to three.
[1:40:13] Speaker 3: That's not Steph Curry.
[1:40:16] Speaker 2: Would you want to be.
[1:40:18] Speaker 1: A guy that's an isolation one-on-one guy or a guy
[1:40:22] Speaker 1: who is embedded inside of.
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: The team format? Which one would I rather be?
[1:40:26] Speaker 1: That's the question right now that we're dealing with in
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: the NBA.
[1:40:31] Speaker 2: Are you an individual star.
[1:40:33] Speaker 1: That has a package? What package does that have? Because
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: think about this. Steph Curry doesn't go get his shot
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: off against that point guard that's in front of him.
[1:40:42] Speaker 2: Switch, big, bop, bop, bop, get my shit off.
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: Every time that happens, you see, Steph don't want that
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: one-on-one matchup with that point guard because it's harder for
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: him to get his.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Shit off on him. Because it's a matchup.
[1:40:55] Speaker 3: I beg to differ.
[1:40:55] Speaker 1: Now, when you cross-match, just like with James, James is
[1:40:59] Speaker 1: better one-on-one with a guy his size because that's what
[1:41:02] Speaker 1: he do. And if you switch me on a big,
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: it's even worse. Everyone looking at this package like, I
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: need that in my game if I'm going to be good.
[1:41:10] Speaker 1: I need, that's a new package.
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: 2K.
[1:41:13] Speaker 1: Unlock that level. Oh, I got the James Harden now? oh,
[1:41:16] Speaker 1: I'm about to kill him. But you don't got the Steph,
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: so you don't even know what to do, and we
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: stop that. We load up on this, what does James do?
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: We've seen what James does when you load up on that.
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: I think, like you guys said, both are elite. The
[1:41:30] Speaker 2: problem we see a lot of the younger generation, right,
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: they don't understand Steph's off-ball movement and how he gets
[1:41:35] Speaker 2: those threes. Same thing with James. They don't understand how
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: much work you have to put in to be able
[1:41:38] Speaker 2: to have that bag. Now, the thing with someone like Curry,
[1:41:43] Speaker 2: when you say, I'd rather be I'd rather have Curry's package.
[1:41:49] Speaker 2: The one thing that you need with Curry's package is
[1:41:53] Speaker 2: smart players around you. Yeah. Also, to understand movement, to
[1:41:57] Speaker 2: understand like.
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: because if you got a bunch of selfish dudes that's
[1:42:01] Speaker 1: one on one yeah can't see me when I'm like
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: ah man like you sit here and pass it and
[1:42:05] Speaker 1: then you back door to pop and this man went
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: this way and I'm like shit jumper you done fucked
[1:42:11] Speaker 1: that all up all of it I'm finna I'm finna
[1:42:12] Speaker 1: you have a whole bunch of pools on your team
[1:42:14] Speaker 1: I'm finna.
[1:42:14] Speaker 4: Break it down even more simple than this if your
[1:42:18] Speaker 4: depth perception don't let you throw this motherfucking pillow for
[1:42:21] Speaker 4: me to you shot I throw this bitch over his
[1:42:25] Speaker 4: head every time yeah yeah terrible That's what makes this
[1:42:30] Speaker 4: man elite.
[1:42:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: His depth perception. Everybody don't have that. Select few have that.
[1:42:40] Speaker 4: So it's all of those things and that and the conditioning,
[1:42:46] Speaker 4: the work. Man, it's so layered to be what Steph is.
[1:42:51] Speaker 4: And people are just taking a small part of it
[1:42:55] Speaker 4: and then ran with it.
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: And everybody don't have a fraction of that one thing.
[1:43:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:43:03] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:43:03] Speaker 3: Damn the other stuff that's on the list.
[1:43:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:43:05] Speaker 2: They don't have a fraction of the shooting part of it.
[1:43:08] Speaker 2: The shooting.
[1:43:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:43:10] Speaker 4: So you doing things and trying to perfect something that
[1:43:16] Speaker 4: this man has is multi-layered.
[1:43:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:43:20] Speaker 3: It ain't just.
[1:43:23] Speaker 3: It's... Yeah.
[1:43:25] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, who's more influential? 78% says Steph. 22%
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[1:45:03] Speaker 1: What?
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: You're going to nod or whatever you made.
[1:45:06] Speaker 3: What was that percentage on James Harden?
[1:45:08] Speaker 2: 78 to 22.
[1:45:13] Speaker 1: Damn, boy.
[1:45:19] Speaker 2: I don't know. It has to be closer than that.
[1:45:21] Speaker 5: Because you got to remember, also, all the rule changes
[1:45:26] Speaker 5: that happened in the NBA in the last five, six years.
[1:45:29] Speaker 3: Has been because of him. Every rule that has came
[1:45:33] Speaker 3: into the NBA... That's just the NBA.
[1:45:35] Speaker 5: The step, all that, like, foul baiting and all that
[1:45:40] Speaker 5: pump fake.
[1:45:42] Speaker 2: It's to get rid of.
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: It's to stop him.
[1:45:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: You were talking about 450 players.
[1:45:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: Steph Curry shooting threes in the playoffs. He's winning championships
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: shooting threes.
[1:45:55] Speaker 2: No, I get that, but what I'm talking about, he's.
[1:45:59] Speaker 5: Bent the rules so much that the league had to
[1:46:02] Speaker 5: change all.
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: Of it to the point that they had to make
[1:46:05] Speaker 2: an emphasis in high school. Say, wait, hold on, there's
[1:46:08] Speaker 2: no gather step here. They had to redo all the
[1:46:11] Speaker 2: rules and say, because all these kids are doing the
[1:46:13] Speaker 2: gather step in high school.
[1:46:15] Speaker 5: High school had to come out and say, there's no gap.
[1:46:19] Speaker 2: Because our rules never change. High school rules, all they say,
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: our rules have never changed. Our rules ain't changed. I know,
[1:46:24] Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying.
[1:46:25] Speaker 5: But it trickled all the way down because all the
[1:46:28] Speaker 5: stuff everybody's doing, they say, wait, hold on.
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: That's in the NBA. This shit don't work in college
[1:46:33] Speaker 2: and overseas.
[1:46:33] Speaker 5: There had to be these portals to show this is.
[1:46:37] Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
[1:46:38] Speaker 1: The James Harden move, the step back, if it's considered
[1:46:43] Speaker 1: a travel, How many kids are going to do it
[1:46:46] Speaker 1: and get called for a travel before they stop doing
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: it and just shoot a three like Steph?
[1:46:50] Speaker 2: How many has? How many would?
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: I don't know. If I'm coming down and I try
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: to do the James Harden and the ref say, boop,
[1:46:57] Speaker 1: high school ref, boop, travel. How many times I'm going
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: to get called for travel before I just be like,
[1:47:03] Speaker 1: I should just do the Steph? Two, three games? Just
[1:47:06] Speaker 1: do the Steph.
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: Rashad, the most important thing in that is high school refs, so.
[1:47:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to call him traveling to Spain.
[1:47:12] Speaker 2: They look crazy, right?
[1:47:13] Speaker 1: If it don't look natural, we're going to call him.
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:47:17] Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
[1:47:18] Speaker 5: I'm thinking about, like, man, they changed rules of foul-baiting,
[1:47:21] Speaker 5: all of that stuff.
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: He's an elite. He's an elite. He changed it. But
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: that's only in the NBA, though.
[1:47:25] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:47:25] Speaker 3: That's only in the NBA.
[1:47:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:47:28] Speaker 4: If we were talking about the league itself and you
[1:47:32] Speaker 4: equate that, then, yeah, I give you that.
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: NBA.
[1:47:35] Speaker 2: The NBA influence. The NBA influence.
[1:47:37] Speaker 3: The younger generation owned. The overall game.
[1:47:41] Speaker 2: Steph Curry, by the way.
[1:47:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, the other rules haven't changed because of James this.
[1:47:45] Speaker 1: It ain't changed.
[1:47:46] Speaker 4: They ain't figured that part of the game out yet.
[1:47:49] Speaker 4: Because these high school referees, you watch this shit, they bad.
[1:47:52] Speaker 5: You just realize how much shit he brung into the game.
[1:47:56] Speaker 3: Are you right?
[1:47:57] Speaker 2: When you really sit there and just back up and say, man,
[1:48:02] Speaker 2: that type of utero was him. That drop step, boom, boom, boom.
[1:48:08] Speaker 5: You start realizing he brung about six to seven things
[1:48:14] Speaker 5: that he perfected into the game that made the rest
[1:48:18] Speaker 5: of the Like, players won.
[1:48:20] Speaker 1: To do. I seen Ticket do this from the big man.
[1:48:26] Speaker 2: From the big man.
[1:48:27] Speaker 3: That was Tim Duncan.
[1:48:28] Speaker 4: Man, that's a Chauncey Billups.
[1:48:31] Speaker 1: He taught me, because I used to be in the
[1:48:35] Speaker 1: post a lot. He's like, when you in the post,
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: Chauncey definitely done it so many times in Detroit. But
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: it's debating them to reach. Bring it out. Boom, boom, boom.
[1:48:45] Speaker 2: And Ticket was like, hey, you get stuck down there,
[1:48:47] Speaker 2: just bring that bitch out. Go up.
[1:48:50] Speaker 1: See James do it. with the Euro, it made it
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: way different. Because D-Wade stole it from Ginobili, and then
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: he made it feel different. And James is like, shit,
[1:49:00] Speaker 1: I'm left-handed. Just like Ginobili. You can't never get to this.
[1:49:03] Speaker 2: They all stole it from Elgin Baylor.
[1:49:04] Speaker 5: I don't know how they stole it from him, because
[1:49:07] Speaker 5: I've seen Dominique Wilkins do it, and they call it travel.
[1:49:10] Speaker 1: The Elgin step.
[1:49:11] Speaker 3: I was like, he was just boom, boom.
[1:49:13] Speaker 1: Like, that's damn. Sheesh.
[1:49:16] Speaker 2: Elgin Baylor was getting that off in the 50s and 60s.
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: The one-two?
[1:49:19] Speaker 1: Like, he just, Dominique just went, uh, uh. You used
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: to jump off too, motherfucker, that.
[1:49:27] Speaker 3: All that single foot shit.
[1:49:28] Speaker 1: Go back to two.
[1:49:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, go back to two.
[1:49:30] Speaker 1: So I look normal to me.
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: All right, we got to talk about an unfortunate situation
[1:49:33] Speaker 2: going on in the league right now. Last season, Wizards
[1:49:36] Speaker 2: forward Kyle Kuzma had jokes for the Pistons during their
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: record-setting 28-game losing streak. In the midst of that streak,
[1:49:42] Speaker 2: Kuz tweeted the following. He said, at this point, it's like,
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: don't be that team. You know, got some laughs. But
[1:49:51] Speaker 2: we'll see 41 million impressions on that tweet. But after
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: a win over Washington last month, The Pistons got their
[1:49:57] Speaker 2: get back. They posted this tweet saying, don't say it,
[1:50:01] Speaker 2: don't say it, don't say it, size. At this point,
[1:50:04] Speaker 2: it's like, don't be that team. And now the Wizards
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: find themselves in the midst of a 14-game losing streak
[1:50:10] Speaker 2: that saw them suffer through a no-win November. We have
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: the graphic to prove it. That's right. The Wizards lost
[1:50:18] Speaker 2: all 14 of their games. Currently a league worse, 2-16
[1:50:22] Speaker 2: this season. Hey, be good or be good at it.
[1:50:28] Speaker 1: And that's not good.
[1:50:29] Speaker 2: That's some real man shit right there. That's a lot
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: of L. It take a real man to lose for it?
[1:50:33] Speaker 5: Yeah, man, they really, like, when we say no nut November,
[1:50:37] Speaker 5: they really took it to the extreme. Like, we've never
[1:50:41] Speaker 5: seen it in a professional setting before where you ain't
[1:50:44] Speaker 5: busting for shit.
[1:50:46] Speaker 1: There you go, right there.
[1:50:48] Speaker 3: They ain't just losing. They ain't just losing.
[1:50:50] Speaker 2: They lost.
[1:50:51] Speaker 3: They getting their ass kicked.
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: They ain't... Okay, so like I said, Wizards lost all
[1:50:58] Speaker 2: 14 of their games. The closest game was nine. So
[1:51:01] Speaker 2: here's a look at their next 15 games this season.
[1:51:04] Speaker 2: As a reminder, the Pistons have that 25th.
[1:51:05] Speaker 1: Wait, hold on.
[1:51:07] Speaker 2: When Detroit lost, it was like, it was winnable games.
[1:51:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost a whole bunch of winnable games.
[1:51:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, this is true. Let's take a look at their
[1:51:17] Speaker 2: next 15 games. Like I said, Pistons 28 straight losses
[1:51:21] Speaker 2: in the season. So hard to see many wins in
[1:51:25] Speaker 2: their future, but they do have two games against both
[1:51:27] Speaker 2: the Hornets and Pelicans with the Sixers game on January
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: 8th potentially serving as the Newky Bowl.
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: Oh, that's late.
[1:51:34] Speaker 2: Where they can set a new record for most consecutive
[1:51:36] Speaker 2: losses in a single season. They might lose all of them.
[1:51:38] Speaker 2: Are the Wizards in jeopardy of breaking the pistol?
[1:51:41] Speaker 3: They can lose all of them games up until they
[1:51:42] Speaker 3: play New Orleans.
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: They can beat them twice. And then they go to
[1:51:46] Speaker 1: New Orleans. They're going to lose at New Orleans. They
[1:51:47] Speaker 1: might be healthy by then.
[1:51:48] Speaker 3: They're going to lose at New Orleans.
[1:51:50] Speaker 2: There's only one team I see in the AD possibly
[1:51:52] Speaker 2: can beat.
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: December 21. Doc and his bitch like, yeah, man. Shit,
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: it's vacation time.
[1:52:05] Speaker 2: You know, the Bucs have turned a corner.
[1:52:07] Speaker 1: I've been very successful.
[1:52:09] Speaker 4: They turned it just like that. So they got their
[1:52:11] Speaker 4: December schedule already. They ain't got no cup games. That's funny.
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: They had their shit made already. Like, realistically... They can
[1:52:20] Speaker 1: lose all them games.
[1:52:21] Speaker 2: They.
[1:52:25] Speaker 1: They can definitely... Yeah.
[1:52:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:52:32] Speaker 1: Unless you get like.
[1:52:32] Speaker 3: They got Charlotte at home. Unless like... LaMelo don't play.
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: They got Charlotte... Yeah, that's right. LaMelo don't play. You
[1:52:39] Speaker 1: fuck around.
[1:52:41] Speaker 3: Memphis, Ja don't play.
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: Maybe.
[1:52:43] Speaker 4: They got Charlotte twice in there, so that's a... See,
[1:52:47] Speaker 4: the problem is they don't... Are they the only team
[1:52:50] Speaker 4: that don't have.
[1:52:50] Speaker 3: One of the only teams that don't.
[1:52:52] Speaker 2: Have an actual star player?
[1:52:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:52:57] Speaker 5: Wizards is probably the only team that don't have, like,
[1:52:59] Speaker 5: a legit, like, you're the next upcoming or you're the
[1:53:03] Speaker 5: star player.
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: They got.
[1:53:04] Speaker 4: That's why they got the number one pick. Or number
[1:53:08] Speaker 4: two pick last year. My bad, number two pick, rather.
[1:53:12] Speaker 2: No.
[1:53:13] Speaker 3: No, like, You should even, I mean. If you had
[1:53:16] Speaker 3: a star, you wouldn't.
[1:53:16] Speaker 2: Is marketing, like, marketing, like, Jordan Poole averaged a 21
[1:53:19] Speaker 2: this year. No. So you wouldn't need the number one.
[1:53:21] Speaker 1: 21 points, good.
[1:53:23] Speaker 2: Where is marketing compared to Poole in marketing? I mean, like,
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.
[1:53:28] Speaker 3: Marketing's been awesome.
[1:53:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like, you don't, like, it's one of the
[1:53:34] Speaker 2: only teams that don't have that dude.
[1:53:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:53:40] Speaker 3: Okay, yes.
[1:53:41] Speaker 1: Yeah. No. Portland, yeah. Same.
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: He's like Jordan Poole.
[1:53:46] Speaker 2: Okay, so Portland, yeah, yeah.
[1:53:47] Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
[1:53:48] Speaker 1: No, no, Portland.
[1:53:49] Speaker 2: Deadass.
[1:53:49] Speaker 3: It's the same. Hell of a talent, but. Just but.
[1:53:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:53:57] Speaker 3: He's a hell of a talent. That's rare in the NBA, right?
[1:54:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:54:04] Speaker 4: Well, some guys just be stuck. A whole lot of points.
[1:54:08] Speaker 4: But they'd be in the bottom.
[1:54:11] Speaker 5: And the basketball gods might send their ass to worse
[1:54:14] Speaker 5: than Detroit.
[1:54:16] Speaker 3: Just to make it look.
[1:54:19] Speaker 1: Because, you know, that's what happens. Bad.
[1:54:23] Speaker 2: When tweets don't age well. How many have they lost
[1:54:25] Speaker 2: so far? They are 2-16 this season. They're only wins
[1:54:27] Speaker 2: against the Atlanta Hawks. How'd he beat them?
[1:54:30] Speaker 3: They beat the Hawks twice.
[1:54:32] Speaker 2: Beat the Hawks twice, back-to-back game.
[1:54:33] Speaker 4: The only team to beat the Cavs twice and lose
[1:54:35] Speaker 4: to the.
[1:54:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hawks are the only team that beat the
[1:54:38] Speaker 2: Cavs twice in back-to-back games. They also lost to the
[1:54:40] Speaker 2: Wizards early in the season in back-to-back games.
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: Kuzma and Jordan Poole are both champions, huh?
[1:54:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know that there's a difference. Don't be
[1:54:53] Speaker 2: hitting me with the butt. Don't do that. No, I'm
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: just saying, like, you know, being a champion as the
[1:54:58] Speaker 2: fourth option is not really... Just to translate to you
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: being a champion, champion.
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: Really? What is a champion, champion?
[1:55:07] Speaker 2: You can get your own team and then bring in
[1:55:09] Speaker 2: that championship mindset, right? Like, I mean, you didn't go
[1:55:13] Speaker 2: to sleep early. Let's just be honest, right? It's not
[1:55:16] Speaker 2: like Jordan Poole was going to sleep looking at the goddamn, like, yeah,
[1:55:19] Speaker 2: I need to stop him, I need to do this.
[1:55:21] Speaker 1: Like, he slept normal, right?
[1:55:23] Speaker 2: He played video games all night, came in, you know,
[1:55:26] Speaker 2: Steph doing Steph, Draymond doing Draymond, Klay and them, and
[1:55:29] Speaker 2: then he come in, hit his little 15, playing regular basketball.
[1:55:32] Speaker 2: Come on, we know.
[1:55:35] Speaker 3: We know there was no sacrificing.
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: We saw it. We watched it. When he got to Washington.
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: Who the GM?
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: Washington.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: Who the GM in Washington? Whoa, don't do that. Do that.
[1:55:45] Speaker 3: We working on something down there.
[1:55:47] Speaker 1: It's progression.
[1:55:49] Speaker 2: Guess what? Don't fuck up his bags.
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: No.
[1:55:52] Speaker 3: Trust y'all process?
[1:55:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, just trust the process, whoever it is.
[1:55:55] Speaker 3: New process?
[1:55:56] Speaker 1: Someone new.
[1:55:59] Speaker 2: Bad for business.
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate.
[1:56:06] Speaker 5: They just don't have the dude that they can really.
[1:56:11] Speaker 2: Say you are a guy. They do.
[1:56:13] Speaker 5: Right now, y'all just all losing, waiting for the guy
[1:56:17] Speaker 5: to come.
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: Like, that's it.
[1:56:20] Speaker 1: Is Cam Thomas the guy for Brooklyn right now?
[1:56:24] Speaker 2: He's playing very well.
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: All right, if Cam Thomas is the guy for Brooklyn,
[1:56:27] Speaker 1: they can find out whether Jordan Pooley or Kuzma is
[1:56:30] Speaker 1: the guy for them. Stop making excuses and blaming the players.
[1:56:35] Speaker 1: And you can just put somebody in a leadership position
[1:56:37] Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, you're our guy. We're going with you.
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: You're going to be our guy until we find a
[1:56:41] Speaker 1: new guy.
[1:56:42] Speaker 5: Yeah, but who's capable of being that consistent to be.
[1:56:46] Speaker 2: Saying, you that guy?
[1:56:47] Speaker 1: Neither. Cam Thomas, not that consistent for you to do that,
[1:56:50] Speaker 1: but they gave it to him because he can go
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: get it.
[1:56:52] Speaker 2: No, I can tell you one thing. No one gave
[1:56:55] Speaker 2: Cam nothing.
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: What you mean? No, no, no.
[1:56:58] Speaker 2: No, every time he came in the game, we know
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: Cam was there. You know what I'm saying? He got
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: the green light now. No, no, he had.
[1:57:03] Speaker 1: I don't know what light he had, but it was
[1:57:05] Speaker 1: green every.
[1:57:06] Speaker 3: Time he touched it.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: Regardless. Yeah, it's just. George Boo got the same light.
[1:57:10] Speaker 1: They the same guy.
[1:57:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's a difference.
[1:57:13] Speaker 5: There's a difference between you being a green guy player, right,
[1:57:18] Speaker 5: and I'm just not giving you minutes versus putting a
[1:57:21] Speaker 5: guy out there and saying, you got the green light.
[1:57:24] Speaker 5: Just because they gave you the green light don't mean
[1:57:26] Speaker 5: you know how to use the green light.
[1:57:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
[1:57:28] Speaker 1: I averaged 20 on a championship team with a green light. Yeah, yeah.
[1:57:34] Speaker 5: We gave you the green light here, and you averaged
[1:57:36] Speaker 5: all of 17.
[1:57:37] Speaker 2: That's because you got me over here with the Purple
[1:57:40] Speaker 2: Ranger and the Green Ranger, and we ain't even the
[1:57:44] Speaker 2: Power Rangers. No, because.
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: Powerpuff Girls. Whoever the 21 this season just.
[1:57:47] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I get that.
[1:57:48] Speaker 2: Got me out here with the Powerpuff Girls. No, but that's... See,
[1:57:50] Speaker 2: that's the thing.
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: A great show. It's like.
[1:57:53] Speaker 5: We see you had the green light over there averaging
[1:57:55] Speaker 5: 20 with Steph, and we're like, oh, if we remove
[1:57:57] Speaker 5: Steph and them, you're going to average like 30 or 40.
[1:58:00] Speaker 1: And then we bring you over here, and you're averaging 21.
[1:58:02] Speaker 1: But y'all didn't bring me over here.
[1:58:04] Speaker 2: They shipped me over here.
[1:58:06] Speaker 1: I did not want to be here. I did not ask.
[1:58:08] Speaker 2: You were sitting.
[1:58:09] Speaker 1: There like this. Woo! We need that guy. And then
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: we got it.
[1:58:13] Speaker 2: We did have Poole's former teammate, Andre Iguodala, here on
[1:58:16] Speaker 2: this couch.
[1:58:17] Speaker 1: And we were talking about that.
[1:58:18] Speaker 2: And there was thoughts coming into that first year with
[1:58:20] Speaker 2: the Wiz, he could average 25, 30 a game. It
[1:58:23] Speaker 2: was this, right? We know when Snoop smokes on set,
[1:58:29] Speaker 2: when you watching it, we.
[1:58:30] Speaker 3: Can tell that's high grade, right?
[1:58:33] Speaker 2: Woo, that look like some high grade right there.
[1:58:36] Speaker 5: Imagine getting the bag of what Snoop, and then you
[1:58:38] Speaker 5: get it in Ohio.
[1:58:40] Speaker 2: And then you hit it in this mid, right? That's
[1:58:43] Speaker 2: what happened with Jordan. That was all Blue Dream right there,
[1:58:49] Speaker 2: all out dope.
[1:58:51] Speaker 1: It's all out, though. It looked like it was the end, though.
[1:58:54] Speaker 2: We still smoking.
[1:58:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's smoking. Yeah, it's smoking. If you put it
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: in a grape switcher.
[1:58:58] Speaker 2: If you put it in a grape switcher.
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: It can still be fire. It's dank as dank. It's
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: still be sick. Dank as dank when you put it
[1:59:05] Speaker 1: in a grape switcher. It's still reggie.
[1:59:07] Speaker 2: Are we still high? Still reggie. We still high with
[1:59:10] Speaker 2: a headache.
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: High with a headache.
[1:59:12] Speaker 2: Like, damn. Roll up again.
[1:59:15] Speaker 1: That's all we got. We're going to smoke it until
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: it's all gone. That's what we're going to do.
[1:59:20] Speaker 2: Look.
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: You hit it hard enough. Where the roach is at?
[1:59:26] Speaker 1: I paid $ 3, 600 for this. I'm waking up in the
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: morning and I'm smoking this roach, too. Where my coffee at?
[1:59:32] Speaker 1: I paid $ 3, 600 for this one. Damn. This is bang.
[1:59:37] Speaker 1: I got it. I bet you're going to smoke it.
[1:59:40] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. You're going to smoke it.
[1:59:41] Speaker 2: You paid for this pack.
[1:59:42] Speaker 1: I'll be sitting like this. Trick me again. Trick me again.
[1:59:46] Speaker 2: Oh, sir.
[1:59:46] Speaker 1: Guess what I do. You're going to see it like this. Uh-uh.
[1:59:52] Speaker 3: Gotta come get this. Oh, I sent you what?
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: No! Aw, damn it, you got the wrong bag. You
[1:59:58] Speaker 1: got the wrong bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, uh...
[2:00:02] Speaker 1: Send that back in. Oh, man, I don't know how
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: to shit.
[2:00:04] Speaker 2: Damn. You know what?
[2:00:06] Speaker 3: On your next payment... I'm going to go ahead and
[2:00:10] Speaker 3: W up, my man.
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: My bad.
[2:00:11] Speaker 1: Still smoking, man. Wizards got to get a different pack.
[2:00:14] Speaker 1: That's all. Just a new pack. They got to call in, man.
[2:00:18] Speaker 1: What you say, man? What you send us, man?
[2:00:20] Speaker 2: Hey, man, I got you the special.
[2:00:23] Speaker 1: AK-47 special. Hey, man, what did you send us? I
[2:00:24] Speaker 1: thought you said this is Reggie Bush. This is just Reggie. Oh,
[2:00:28] Speaker 1: my bad. I just heard the first part of it. Yes. Sold.
[2:00:33] Speaker 2: Reggie?
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: You want the Reggie Soul? Reggie. Not Reggie from the clumps.
[2:00:39] Speaker 1: It's Michael Jordan. I don't need the.
[2:00:42] Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle Reggie from another professor.
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan. My bad. My bad.
[2:00:47] Speaker 2: I didn't know you meant Jeffrey Jordan.
[2:00:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the B. That's going to cost you a
[2:00:53] Speaker 1: little bit more.
[2:00:53] Speaker 3: Well, goddammit, I didn't know Reggie B.
[2:00:56] Speaker 1: Cost me 36. We asked the chat. Reggie Miller, man.
[2:01:01] Speaker 1: Reggie Miller.
[2:01:02] Speaker 2: We asked the chat, will the Wizards lose 29 in
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: a row? 53% say yes.
[2:01:07] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:01:07] Speaker 2: That's a lot. 15 straight. 15 more lost, that's a lot.
[2:01:10] Speaker 2: They got to mess around and get one.
[2:01:12] Speaker 3: Shit, we thought that with Detroit.
[2:01:13] Speaker 2: We did.
[2:01:14] Speaker 1: They was in a close game. They was in a
[2:01:15] Speaker 1: close game.
[2:01:16] Speaker 2: We closest game is nine points. Like, when they lost,
[2:01:19] Speaker 2: you was sitting there like, damn. Yeah, once, and they
[2:01:21] Speaker 2: go again. You know, you had the tripping over at
[2:01:26] Speaker 2: New York, that shit.
[2:01:27] Speaker 5: Like, that could have went, like, a whole lot of
[2:01:30] Speaker 5: bad shit had happened there.
[2:01:31] Speaker 2: For Detroit to go down like this.
[2:01:33] Speaker 3: They just losing.
[2:01:34] Speaker 2: Wizards just losing. Yeah, they just losing for sure. They
[2:01:36] Speaker 2: need age of zero.
[2:01:37] Speaker 3: They ain't going out there with hope.
[2:01:39] Speaker 5: There's no speech that's happened before the game that's this
[2:01:41] Speaker 5: in the life.
[2:01:42] Speaker 1: Hope got the day off. We can get this, coach.
[2:01:44] Speaker 4: In the one game that they lost by nine, they
[2:01:46] Speaker 4: gave up 130.
[2:01:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, 130 to 139.
[2:01:47] Speaker 1: 139 to 130. That's crazy. It ain't like that shit
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: was even. So you gave up hooping out there.
[2:01:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: It was hooping. We all hooping too, but we just shit.
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: Let's just keep it close. Pool, your turn.
[2:02:01] Speaker 2: Your turn. Pool party. Three. Three.
[2:02:05] Speaker 1: Three.
[2:02:07] Speaker 2: All right. Well, let's talk about a good basketball team.
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: So interestingly, like we mentioned, Wizards only two wins this
[2:02:12] Speaker 2: season came against the Hawks. Same Hawks squad that handed
[2:02:15] Speaker 2: the Cavs back-to-back losses last week. Shout out Trey Young
[2:02:18] Speaker 2: had 22 assists in one of those wins for the Hawks.
[2:02:20] Speaker 2: But let's talk a little bit about the Cavs after
[2:02:22] Speaker 2: starting the season with a franchise record 15 straight wins. Well,
[2:02:25] Speaker 2: you said 22 assists? 22 assists.
[2:02:26] Speaker 9: What the fuck would people be thinking about passing her
[2:02:29] Speaker 9: that much?
[2:02:31] Speaker 5: How you trust a motherfucker that I like the.
[2:02:35] Speaker 9: Way he play you don't trust you don't trust him
[2:02:38] Speaker 9: like everybody like for you to have 22 everybody gotta
[2:02:43] Speaker 9: like everybody gotta be happy that day like yeah.
[2:02:45] Speaker 4: It's my birthday bro over it well yeah what 23, 22, 21,
[2:02:49] Speaker 4: and 22 so he had 20 and 20 so yeah
[2:02:51] Speaker 4: he had 20.
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: And 20 yeah he had what we call a Barbara
[2:02:54] Speaker 2: Walters yeah.
[2:02:56] Speaker 1: But that boy that boy Jalen Johnson though yeah Different.
[2:03:03] Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson is different. The kid for Atlanta.
[2:03:06] Speaker 3: Go ahead, my bad.
[2:03:07] Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. I appreciate y'all. That's what
[2:03:09] Speaker 2: makes the show great. So after starting the season with
[2:03:11] Speaker 2: a franchise record 15 straight wins, the Cavs saw that
[2:03:14] Speaker 2: streak snapped by the Celtics in an NBA Cup game
[2:03:16] Speaker 2: back on November 19th in Boston. Celtics pulled up to
[2:03:19] Speaker 2: Cleveland Sunday for the rematch, but without Jalen Brown and
[2:03:22] Speaker 2: Derek White, who were both out for the game. But
[2:03:24] Speaker 2: the Celtics still put up a fight. But Donovan Mitchell
[2:03:28] Speaker 2: led the Cavs with 35 points. including 20 in the
[2:03:31] Speaker 2: fourth quarter to help the Cavs overcome a 12-point deficit
[2:03:34] Speaker 2: in the period. He was a perfect 6-for-6 in the quarter,
[2:03:36] Speaker 2: including 4-for-4 from deep. Mitchell has gone over 30 points
[2:03:41] Speaker 2: five times in the last nine games. Darius Garland added
[2:03:44] Speaker 2: 22 points, five boards, and eight dimes. He was 4-for-6
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: from deep, 8-for-8 from the line. And Georges Niang and
[2:03:49] Speaker 2: Karis LeVert both chipped in 13 points each off the bench.
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum led the Celtics with 33 points and eight boards.
[2:03:54] Speaker 2: He was 12-for-27, 4-for-9 from deep. Borzingas played a season-high
[2:03:59] Speaker 2: 32 minutes, had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 steals, and
[2:04:02] Speaker 2: Peyton Pritchard came off the bench and finished with 24
[2:04:05] Speaker 2: points and 7 boards. Celtics were 17 for 49 from
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: 3 as a team. The Cavs were 17 for 36
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: from behind the arc. The Cavs win, snaps their 2-game
[2:04:14] Speaker 2: losing streak, and the Celtics' 7-game winning streak.
[2:04:17] Speaker 1: Do not have Brandon here today.
[2:04:19] Speaker 2: Would have loved to get his opinion on it, but
[2:04:20] Speaker 2: we do have you, gentlemen. Does Donovan Mitchell deserve more
[2:04:22] Speaker 2: credit for the Cavs' hot start? We talked about They're
[2:04:27] Speaker 2: maybe not playing the quality of teams they need to play,
[2:04:29] Speaker 2: but they've now done it against the Celtics. What's the
[2:04:32] Speaker 2: thing about the quality of teams that they haven't played?
[2:04:35] Speaker 2: I recall during that win streak, you were not as
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: supportive as you should have been with that 15-0 start.
[2:04:42] Speaker 3: Franchise record.
[2:04:42] Speaker 2: Franchise record.
[2:04:44] Speaker 5: No, I said that was hard. But no, I mean, listen,
[2:04:49] Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out who to compare them to.
[2:04:54] Speaker 1: You trying to discredit them? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[2:04:57] Speaker 5: I'm trying to, like, you know, like, when you look
[2:04:58] Speaker 5: at them, you're like, man, they're a good team, right?
[2:05:03] Speaker 2: They just, they play well together, right? Like, everything moves, like, well.
[2:05:11] Speaker 2: Even though, like, beginning of the season, we thought this
[2:05:13] Speaker 2: was going to be some clash because of the two guards, but...
[2:05:16] Speaker 2: That's what we had heard last year with reports that,
[2:05:18] Speaker 2: you know... It was one of the other types of situations.
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: Like Detroit Pistons, the 0-4?
[2:05:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
[2:05:22] Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
[2:05:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like. Yes.
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Yeah. So we're on the same. Yes. It
[2:05:28] Speaker 2: reminds me of that team. So this Cavs squad reminds
[2:05:30] Speaker 2: you of the 0-4 Pistons squad.
[2:05:32] Speaker 5: Not the dominant defense, but how they play together.
[2:05:35] Speaker 1: Play together.
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: They play together very well.
[2:05:37] Speaker 4: They were together last year. Their core was together last year.
[2:05:40] Speaker 4: They didn't break it up. They stuck with what they had.
[2:05:45] Speaker 4: was a four seed last year, so they were gonna
[2:05:47] Speaker 4: play well coming, we were expecting them to play well
[2:05:49] Speaker 4: coming into this year. That was some injury issues last year, but. Yeah,
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: so you can bring everybody back healthy. We have a chemistry, we,
[2:05:58] Speaker 4: I don't know what, yeah, they used to play in
[2:06:00] Speaker 4: a different system, I think, because they had to change coaches,
[2:06:03] Speaker 4: but just the idea of us being together still is
[2:06:09] Speaker 4: recipe for regular season success, right?
[2:06:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:06:13] Speaker 4: We see how it translates in the series. It should
[2:06:16] Speaker 4: translate in the series to.
[2:06:17] Speaker 2: Get out of the.
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: I'm saying they made it to the second round last year,
[2:06:20] Speaker 4: so they have to do at least that.
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: And you think Eastern Conference Finals realistic for this one?
[2:06:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, home court first round.
[2:06:28] Speaker 4: Again, getting out of the second round because you have
[2:06:31] Speaker 4: home court.
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: Still, so....
[2:06:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, they can.
[2:06:35] Speaker 5: I mean, if luck is on their side, they can
[2:06:38] Speaker 5: find themselves in the Eastern Conference Finals.
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: Sure.
[2:06:42] Speaker 2: Like.
[2:06:43] Speaker 3: Matchups.
[2:06:44] Speaker 2: That's all it is. Fighting for that championship.
[2:06:48] Speaker 1: I like the Detroit Pistons comparison. It's just without the three.
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: Without the Tayshaun Prince. I think they got the two.
[2:06:59] Speaker 1: They got Chauncey and Riff. And they got the two bigs.
[2:07:01] Speaker 1: It's by committee.
[2:07:04] Speaker 2: Okoro and Niang.
[2:07:05] Speaker 9: Niang.
[2:07:06] Speaker 3: And you got the Wade.
[2:07:07] Speaker 2: Isaac.
[2:07:08] Speaker 1: Like, there are three.
[2:07:09] Speaker 2: That's why I said it's by committee. Yeah.
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: As far as defense, like.
[2:07:12] Speaker 3: Okoro can defend.
[2:07:13] Speaker 1: Jared Allen.
[2:07:14] Speaker 2: Remember, Tayshaun was 6'9.
[2:07:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, so Okoro can defend.
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: Niang can make shots.
[2:07:18] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Not on the defensive end, just like... Overall. Like,
[2:07:21] Speaker 2: how to play.
[2:07:22] Speaker 1: If you put them out there, if you can combine them... Yeah,
[2:07:25] Speaker 1: you combine them. They'll make a.
[2:07:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
[2:07:28] Speaker 1: Tayshaun Prince. Yeah.
[2:07:29] Speaker 2: Because Wade is about that size.
[2:07:30] Speaker 1: Right. Gotcha, yeah. Because Vert... I wasn't even adding him.
[2:07:35] Speaker 3: So you can add him in, you can score.
[2:07:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:07:38] Speaker 1: If he get it going. And Wade and George.
[2:07:41] Speaker 2: And Wade and Okoro.
[2:07:42] Speaker 3: And they all bring something to the table, right?
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: I like that.
[2:07:45] Speaker 2: They all, that's what I said.
[2:07:46] Speaker 5: It's like when you look, like when you sit back
[2:07:47] Speaker 5: and look at them, you're just like, yo, they all,
[2:07:51] Speaker 5: they playing some good-ass basketball. Like it just, like, Mitchell
[2:07:57] Speaker 5: was standing out, but when you look at the game,
[2:08:00] Speaker 5: everybody's doing their part.
[2:08:02] Speaker 2: Like everybody, like they're bigs.
[2:08:06] Speaker 3: They're being them.
[2:08:06] Speaker 1: They're being bigs, like old school bigs.
[2:08:09] Speaker 2: Like you see the duck in. They threw it to him.
[2:08:11] Speaker 1: They just didn't duck in. They threw it to him.
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: They threw it to him. And who was on them?
[2:08:15] Speaker 2: Hauser.
[2:08:16] Speaker 1: Hauser against Allen. But think about what we're saying, though.
[2:08:19] Speaker 1: We're looking at the game of the Cleveland Cavaliers, which
[2:08:23] Speaker 1: they don't have an outstanding talent on the roster. You
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: look at all the other rosters that are similar. Only
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: thing that's different is they're playing good basketball. They're playing together.
[2:08:33] Speaker 1: They have accountability. They're cracking down. They're boxing out. They're
[2:08:37] Speaker 1: closing out. They're a solid team. Think about if the
[2:08:40] Speaker 1: Knicks played that way. Think about certain teams like the
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: Orlando Magic. They played that way. Certain teams have got
[2:08:47] Speaker 1: solid talent. As you play the right way, you're going
[2:08:50] Speaker 1: to get some wins. OKC, solid talent.
[2:08:52] Speaker 2: They're playing the right way.
[2:08:54] Speaker 3: And you've got to close them.
[2:08:54] Speaker 1: And you've got to close them. Harkestan is showing himself
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: to be one of those Jared Allen, Mobley type of guys,
[2:09:00] Speaker 1: going there getting rebounds, do what you.
[2:09:01] Speaker 2: Need to do, play with size.
[2:09:03] Speaker 1: And you've got to close them. All them situations that
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: you named, you've got to close them. So three good
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: teams to look at in the future.
[2:09:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, them young teams are playing very well.
[2:09:12] Speaker 5: Hopefully they're so young, hopefully they don't break them up
[2:09:14] Speaker 5: thinking they need something new.
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: I don't think they will. OKC, Orlando, and Cleveland.
[2:09:18] Speaker 3: I think they.
[2:09:19] Speaker 4: Because these dudes, man, they winning, and I think it's... Like,
[2:09:22] Speaker 4: Garland's a free.
[2:09:23] Speaker 2: He's a free agent, right?
[2:09:24] Speaker 3: No, let me double check.
[2:09:26] Speaker 2: I thought he re-signed.
[2:09:27] Speaker 3: Oh, he re-signed?
[2:09:28] Speaker 2: Let me see. Yeah, he's under contract through 2028. Donovan
[2:09:31] Speaker 2: Mitchell's got a player option.
[2:09:32] Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell's got a player option in 2027.
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: Jared Allen signed in 2029.
[2:09:34] Speaker 1: He just signed every mobile....
[2:09:39] Speaker 2: Oh, so they good.
[2:09:40] Speaker 1: Moby through 2029, yeah.
[2:09:41] Speaker 5: So the only thing that's going to fuck them up
[2:09:43] Speaker 5: is the role players, like Jared Allen, all of them.
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: But Jared Allen's there through 2020. I'm saying they've got four. Oh,
[2:09:49] Speaker 2: they're good. So Garland, so they've got... Are you backing LaVert?
[2:09:54] Speaker 1: Let's see where his, where does LaVert's come from.
[2:09:55] Speaker 4: And you get a young, do you get a... LaVert,
[2:09:57] Speaker 4: be a free agent after this. First round pick, older.
[2:10:00] Speaker 4: I'll go get an upperclassman.
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: Yep. Right?
[2:10:02] Speaker 1: Sure.
[2:10:02] Speaker 4: Somebody that know how to play already, that's established in college.
[2:10:06] Speaker 4: I will pick my first round pick on that.
[2:10:09] Speaker 2: Yep.
[2:10:09] Speaker 3: Somebody just plug right in.
[2:10:11] Speaker 1: Plug right in.
[2:10:12] Speaker 4: Because you might lose somebody in free agent. So it's...
[2:10:16] Speaker 4: What's so funny? This is an offense.
[2:10:20] Speaker 2: Zach Eady. Oh, 100%. 100%. Instead of Jared?
[2:10:24] Speaker 3: They don't play fast.
[2:10:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't play fast like that, but like.
[2:10:29] Speaker 1: Duck ends.
[2:10:30] Speaker 3: Duck ends and going to the post.
[2:10:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doghouse. Jared down there all the time. Oh,
[2:10:36] Speaker 2: let's talk a little Celtics side. So, like I mentioned,
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: Celtics were without Jalen Brown, who some people on this
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: couch consider to be their number one option, and Derek White,
[2:10:47] Speaker 2: but led by as much as 14 in the second half,
[2:10:49] Speaker 2: 12 in that fourth quarter before Donovan Mitchell's fourth quarter explosion.
[2:10:53] Speaker 2: Does anyone in the league have a five-man unit that
[2:10:55] Speaker 2: can match up with the Porzingis, Tatum, Brown, White, Holiday
[2:10:59] Speaker 2: starting five?
[2:11:02] Speaker 1: Healthy. Healthy.
[2:11:05] Speaker 2: One through five?
[2:11:09] Speaker 5: I mean, they have a real big three that is
[2:11:13] Speaker 5: a big three. Like, together they're a big three because
[2:11:16] Speaker 5: Porzingis averaged 20 last year, right? Yeah, so they got
[2:11:19] Speaker 5: a big three all averaging 20, and then your two
[2:11:22] Speaker 5: role players are playing.
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: All NBA defense? Yeah, so.
[2:11:28] Speaker 1: Both of them. So what the hell?
[2:11:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the best starting five.
[2:11:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the best starting five. Who's the closest? Like,
[2:11:37] Speaker 2: they don't even have a win.
[2:11:38] Speaker 1: Like, think about it. Who's their weak link?
[2:11:41] Speaker 5: The weak link is all defensive player?
[2:11:43] Speaker 1: What would the Sixers lineups be?
[2:11:45] Speaker 2: Was that Embiid? Embiid, Maxey, PG.
[2:11:49] Speaker 1: Who would 3-4? Don't know. Let's just say.
[2:11:53] Speaker 2: It ain't no.
[2:11:54] Speaker 1: Let's say Drummond is in there.
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: No. No. Drummond in there, 4-5. No, because you're talking
[2:12:00] Speaker 2: about the weakest link. White was a defense player. What
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: did he do?
[2:12:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, so their weakest player is all defense.
[2:12:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, man. There's no close. And Pritchard is a
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: monster off the field. He's a monster, too.
[2:12:19] Speaker 3: There's no close, not with a starting five.
[2:12:23] Speaker 1: And Horford.
[2:12:23] Speaker 2: That's impact.
[2:12:24] Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about impact. Like, the two weak
[2:12:27] Speaker 5: ones are impacting.
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: Somebody messing with them. Yeah.
[2:12:29] Speaker 3: It's not a close second, either.
[2:12:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said. It's not a close second.
[2:12:32] Speaker 2: Not a close second around the league. All right. Mm.
[2:12:35] Speaker 1: Starting five, no.
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: Mm.
[2:12:39] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:12:40] Speaker 5: This reminds me of goddamn Detroit Pistons, too. Where you have, like, literally,
[2:12:45] Speaker 5: you got five guys that the weakest one is Tayshaun,
[2:12:48] Speaker 5: and we know what he was on defense.
[2:12:50] Speaker 1: But then you had Antonio McDyess off the bench. You had.
[2:12:54] Speaker 5: Because the two Wallace boys, they were dominant bigs at
[2:12:57] Speaker 5: what they did.
[2:12:58] Speaker 1: They had a bunch of motherfuckers on that team.
[2:13:01] Speaker 2: And it's rare when you got a starting five. Chad
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: is saying Mavs, Suns, Healthy Thunder. Mavs, starting five? No. Mavs, Suns,
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: Healthy Thunder match up. So they're the weakest starting five.
[2:13:13] Speaker 2: Some of those.
[2:13:14] Speaker 1: Knicks out there don't match up with Prazingis.
[2:13:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:13:18] Speaker 3: You're talking about the worst player.
[2:13:19] Speaker 5: Like, when we talk about the worst player, like, you're
[2:13:21] Speaker 5: talking about Derrick White.
[2:13:23] Speaker 2: Derrick White is the worst player. Some in the chat
[2:13:25] Speaker 2: seem to think the Knicks also have a chance with Derrick.
[2:13:28] Speaker 2: Derrick White versus... I get it.
[2:13:30] Speaker 3: Derrick White, all NBA defense.
[2:13:33] Speaker 2: Versus Josh Hart.
[2:13:34] Speaker 3: Versus Josh Hart. Mitchell Robinson.
[2:13:36] Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson.
[2:13:37] Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson.
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: Kat, Kat, Prazingis.
[2:13:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:13:42] Speaker 5: Your second-best player or first-best player is knocking out their third.
[2:13:44] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you haven't mentioned Jalen Brown or Jason
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: Taylor at all. At all. You're a second-best player.
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: This is their third, like, 20 and 10.
[2:13:54] Speaker 1: Like, talent? Jesus Christ. Like, they got too much talent
[2:13:58] Speaker 1: over there. Too much.
[2:13:59] Speaker 2: And they play together. That's the crazy part. They know
[2:14:02] Speaker 2: how to play together.
[2:14:02] Speaker 5: Like, they were Detroit Pistons.
[2:14:08] Speaker 2: Who else had a team like this? Because when Boston.
[2:14:12] Speaker 1: The Laker team? No. The Laker team?
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: No, not even Boston. Lakers 0-4.
[2:14:17] Speaker 1: 0-4 Lakers.
[2:14:18] Speaker 2: Sacramento. Sacramento.
[2:14:19] Speaker 1: They had a very solid team. Peja.
[2:14:22] Speaker 3: Peja.
[2:14:23] Speaker 2: Doug.
[2:14:24] Speaker 1: But Vlade was the weakest.
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: He was the oldest. Doug Christie was the weakest. Both
[2:14:30] Speaker 2: of them. I'm just thinking of teams that. Yeah, Vlade
[2:14:33] Speaker 2: was probably, but Vlade was bad, bad. It was just
[2:14:37] Speaker 2: because he was old.
[2:14:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was older.
[2:14:39] Speaker 2: But no, no, no.
[2:14:40] Speaker 1: Brad Miller stepped in on that team. It was Brad, Chris, Peja. No,
[2:14:44] Speaker 1: Brad started that year. Brad was playing.
[2:14:49] Speaker 2: But Brad wasn't Brad.
[2:14:50] Speaker 1: After Vlade, that year, they lost to the Lakers.
[2:14:53] Speaker 2: He came in, they picked up the slack with Brad.
[2:14:55] Speaker 5: Like, who matches that, that they're dominant all at the
[2:14:58] Speaker 5: same time?
[2:15:01] Speaker 1: It's tough, bro.
[2:15:03] Speaker 2: Unfortunate. Because when you go... When you go Warriors? When
[2:15:06] Speaker 2: you go Warriors, but they're five, man. Bogut? No, not
[2:15:11] Speaker 2: that year. With the KD staff? With the KD staff.
[2:15:14] Speaker 2: Who was the five?
[2:15:17] Speaker 1: Spates.
[2:15:18] Speaker 2: Spates? No. No.
[2:15:20] Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you about the closing line. Who was that?
[2:15:24] Speaker 1: Who was the five?
[2:15:24] Speaker 3: That let's just know right there.
[2:15:27] Speaker 2: Azili? That's Azili? No. Was it Looney?
[2:15:30] Speaker 3: Looney, right?
[2:15:31] Speaker 2: Looney, yeah. UCLA Bruin, Milwaukee legend.
[2:15:36] Speaker 1: See, that's the problem.
[2:15:37] Speaker 2: Like, their five is an all-defense first team.
[2:15:39] Speaker 3: Second team, like, yikes.
[2:15:43] Speaker 2: It's unfortunate.
[2:15:44] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: Wish we could have that. Let's be nice.
[2:15:48] Speaker 3: Let's be nice.
[2:15:48] Speaker 2: You got to win it now.
[2:15:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. You got to win it now.
[2:15:52] Speaker 2: You can't fall short. Still, Lakers are six, but... Could
[2:15:57] Speaker 2: be six games, could be six years.
[2:15:59] Speaker 1: You never know. But let's move on to most of them.
[2:16:02] Speaker 2: Oh, McGee. Oh, JaVale, too.
[2:16:05] Speaker 1: Was on what?
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[2:16:11] Speaker 1: I'm like, nah. Oh, which one? What, Spurs?
[2:16:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:16:16] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[2:16:16] Speaker 2: They four-man always was whoever usually was a four to five.
[2:16:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Bonner, Splitter. Whatever one. Diao. Boris. So our first
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: question from, ooh. Yeah, I'm thinking that. Suns.
[2:16:32] Speaker 2: Amari. Amari them. With Boris. Tim Thomas, Amari.
[2:16:36] Speaker 1: Tim.
[2:16:37] Speaker 2: Amari was a five, right? Tim was a four. Jason, uh.
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: Richardson was the three. Joe Johnson was the two. It
[2:16:47] Speaker 1: depends on what year. The 05 year. Tim came on
[2:16:50] Speaker 1: in year.
[2:16:51] Speaker 2: They're talking about that year Boogie got hurt that year.
[2:16:53] Speaker 2: Boogie who? Cousin with that Warrior starting five. Oh, Boogie
[2:16:56] Speaker 2: was there. But he was there.
[2:16:57] Speaker 1: But it was JaVale.
[2:16:58] Speaker 2: No, no, who? No.
[2:17:00] Speaker 1: Phoenix.
[2:17:02] Speaker 3: Was it Matrix the four?
[2:17:04] Speaker 2: Yes.
[2:17:04] Speaker 3: Was it Matrix the four?
[2:17:05] Speaker 2: Tim Thomas coming off the bench.
[2:17:06] Speaker 1: Maury, Matrix.
[2:17:08] Speaker 2: We got Steve Nash. Richardson and Joe Johnson. Q. Q.
[2:17:12] Speaker 2: Rich and Joe Johnson.
[2:17:15] Speaker 1: First year?
[2:17:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:17:16] Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, Matrix, Omari, Q-Rich, Nash.
[2:17:19] Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. Ooh.
[2:17:21] Speaker 1: Nasty.
[2:17:22] Speaker 2: I like that.
[2:17:24] Speaker 1: I like that with Matrix. All-star, two big all-stars.
[2:17:28] Speaker 2: So your weakest link is Q-Rich?
[2:17:31] Speaker 1: Q-Rich.
[2:17:32] Speaker 2: It was perfect for that. Yeah. Joe Johnson is a
[2:17:37] Speaker 2: wild card.
[2:17:37] Speaker 1: Old school Clippers.
[2:17:39] Speaker 2: But they was all young, so that don't even matter. Yeah,
[2:17:44] Speaker 2: he would have been a weak sleep.
[2:17:48] Speaker 1: Sure.
[2:17:49] Speaker 2: First question is from underdog user JMFdub. He said, if
[2:17:53] Speaker 2: you could score 60 against any team, who would it be?
[2:17:56] Speaker 2: We already know you did that against the Lakers, so
[2:17:58] Speaker 2: it has to be another team for you. But if
[2:18:00] Speaker 2: you could score 60 against any team, who would it be?
[2:18:06] Speaker 2: And who would it be on? I'm going to add
[2:18:07] Speaker 2: a little layer to it. Right now, the Bucs. Motherfucking Bucs.
[2:18:19] Speaker 2: In Milwaukee, God damn it.
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: That's an evil laugh, yo.
[2:18:27] Speaker 2: That's an evil laugh.
[2:18:31] Speaker 1: Very evil.
[2:18:33] Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all know. Y'all got to go
[2:18:35] Speaker 5: back and watch. I even, during the.
[2:18:37] Speaker 3: Game, I even flicked Doc off. Like, I was that hot.
[2:18:41] Speaker 5: But it was a game where me and Paul Pierce
[2:18:43] Speaker 5: was going at it, and I hit a shot and
[2:18:46] Speaker 5: gave him both birds.
[2:18:48] Speaker 2: That's how hot.
[2:18:49] Speaker 3: It's been brewing for a long time.
[2:18:51] Speaker 2: Can you and Doc, more likely you and Doc, relationship
[2:18:55] Speaker 2: repair or you and Kwame?
[2:18:57] Speaker 3: It was just, what's that again?
[2:18:59] Speaker 2: More likely a relationship repair, you and Doc or you
[2:19:01] Speaker 2: and Kwame? Kwame, that was easier.
[2:19:04] Speaker 1: You're our buddies?
[2:19:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was easier. So you're not mending it with Doc?
[2:19:10] Speaker 2: You got to forgive, Gil. No, no, no, no, because
[2:19:12] Speaker 2: that was an emotion then, right? It kind of helped me, like,
[2:19:18] Speaker 2: so I had to use certain faces, and his was
[2:19:21] Speaker 2: one of the faces. Oh, the water boy.
[2:19:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[2:19:25] Speaker 2: He was there.
[2:19:28] Speaker 1: It really, really sucks.
[2:19:30] Speaker 2: Fucking water boy. You never know where this show is
[2:19:36] Speaker 2: going to go. Shot, if you score six against any team,
[2:19:38] Speaker 2: It could be current, past.
[2:19:40] Speaker 1: Oh, man, that's easy. Watch the Wizards. Gilbert Arenas.
[2:19:47] Speaker 2: What?
[2:19:47] Speaker 1: Gas Chamber City. All night long. 60-60. LeBron? No. Fuck LeBron. Shit.
[2:19:56] Speaker 1: It's age of zero.
[2:19:57] Speaker 2: Shit.
[2:19:58] Speaker 1: It's 60.
[2:20:00] Speaker 2: I want to see the look on his face. He
[2:20:02] Speaker 2: won't play tomorrow. I thought you were going to be
[2:20:05] Speaker 2: malicious and say you want to score 60 on Bronny. No.
[2:20:08] Speaker 2: You can't guess my moves. Unpredictable. That would be all.
[2:20:13] Speaker 1: Everybody would be watching that game. I beat Gilbert in
[2:20:16] Speaker 1: the shootout. I beat Gilbert in the shootout so bad
[2:20:17] Speaker 1: he ain't bringing it up no more. There has been
[2:20:20] Speaker 1: no more talk about Gilbert's shootout. He ain't bringing it
[2:20:24] Speaker 1: up no more. Let me get my 60 and I'll
[2:20:26] Speaker 1: go ahead and get in my own coffin and go
[2:20:28] Speaker 1: ahead and buy my business. Upper room.
[2:20:30] Speaker 2: The upper room. KD, if you scored 60 against any team,
[2:20:35] Speaker 2: who would it be?
[2:20:37] Speaker 3: Pick one.
[2:20:38] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:20:38] Speaker 2: 60 is 60.
[2:20:38] Speaker 3: Nah, there's a 60.
[2:20:39] Speaker 1: There's a 60. Don't let him off. Don't let him off.
[2:20:42] Speaker 2: There's a white man coaching.
[2:20:46] Speaker 1: There's somebody who wants a 60.
[2:20:47] Speaker 5: It might not be a team, but I know who
[2:20:49] Speaker 5: got to be coaching another team.
[2:20:50] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You go to him. You can put it
[2:20:55] Speaker 1: out there. That's like your petty brain work. Absolutely. Yeah,
[2:20:58] Speaker 1: both of y'all.
[2:20:58] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[2:20:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the big fun.
[2:21:01] Speaker 2: And the horse that he rode in on.
[2:21:02] Speaker 1: I'm with you. He rode in on it.
[2:21:05] Speaker 2: I'm with you.
[2:21:05] Speaker 1: He rode in on it.
[2:21:06] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[2:21:07] Speaker 2: 60 on your ass. For sure.
[2:21:08] Speaker 1: Why he on the horse?
[2:21:09] Speaker 2: Every play.
[2:21:10] Speaker 1: Every play. Every play.
[2:21:12] Speaker 4: Yeah, it was two game-winning plays when I was with
[2:21:15] Speaker 4: the Clippers. As soon as I left there and we
[2:21:17] Speaker 4: went back to Denver, I got a tip in on
[2:21:20] Speaker 4: one end and a game-winning block on the other end.
[2:21:22] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[2:21:22] Speaker 3: So it's, that's the.
[2:21:24] Speaker 1: Equivalent of scoring 60. Right? Yo, ass up out of here. Yeah.
[2:21:29] Speaker 1: Sit out of here.
[2:21:29] Speaker 3: It was a tip.
[2:21:30] Speaker 4: Like, I ain't no tip dunk. It was just a
[2:21:31] Speaker 4: tip in. Like, the game, they were trying to block
[2:21:33] Speaker 4: me out.
[2:21:34] Speaker 2: Give me that.
[2:21:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all the young boys.
[2:21:36] Speaker 1: Pull aside, though.
[2:21:38] Speaker 2: I don't know if I did if I did.
[2:21:40] Speaker 3: Should have.
[2:21:42] Speaker 1: Oh! Yeah, then a block on the other end for game.
[2:21:46] Speaker 1: You know it's good because he's like, yeah, yeah. Now
[2:21:52] Speaker 1: that you say it.
[2:21:53] Speaker 2: Now that you brought it up.
[2:21:56] Speaker 1: I'd love to have 60 on that same game. Yeah,
[2:21:59] Speaker 1: but I didn't say anything.
[2:22:00] Speaker 4: I kicked his ass in the playoffs before when he
[2:22:02] Speaker 4: was with Milwaukee, so yeah, put them out the playoffs
[2:22:04] Speaker 4: when I was with the Nets.
[2:22:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's the.
[2:22:07] Speaker 4: He was talking shit in the paper after the end.
[2:22:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it was.
[2:22:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, so you right. Okay.
[2:22:13] Speaker 1: All right, respect. Makes sense.
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: Makes sense. So that's our show for today, but I
[2:22:17] Speaker 2: got a quick announcement. We are extending our sweater design
[2:22:19] Speaker 2: contest a little longer. You've got until midnight ET tonight.
[2:22:23] Speaker 2: That is midnight ET tonight, December 2nd, to send them
[2:22:26] Speaker 2: to mosiefansguild at gmail.com, and we'll announce a winner in
[2:22:29] Speaker 2: the near future. We're going to have those Christmas sweaters
[2:22:31] Speaker 2: up on the site very soon as well. We've been.
[2:22:35] Speaker 1: We've been fucking it up with the gaming. Gotta let
[2:22:38] Speaker 1: them know that they don't get in on this gaming shit.
[2:22:40] Speaker 1: It's gonna be a wrap for them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:22:43] Speaker 1: This Madden standings that I have in Madden right now.
[2:22:47] Speaker 2: It's pretty strong.
[2:22:48] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:22:48] Speaker 1: Pretty strong.
[2:22:49] Speaker 2: We got gaming on the horizon.
[2:22:50] Speaker 4: So I asked for a game. You said your systems
[2:22:52] Speaker 4: was down.
[2:22:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
[2:22:53] Speaker 1: My systems was down. My systems was down.
[2:22:57] Speaker 2: I had won too many games. It was like, you
[2:22:59] Speaker 2: need to cool the game off.
[2:23:00] Speaker 1: It said, cool it off. Cooled off.
[2:23:04] Speaker 4: So listen, chat. I still ain't... Listen, I've played two games.
[2:23:07] Speaker 4: All the games they play, won't nobody play.
[2:23:11] Speaker 1: Tell them what game it is.
[2:23:13] Speaker 4: I often play Man 2. Won't nobody play college.
[2:23:16] Speaker 1: I play whatever, except for that. I just don't... Ain't nobody...
[2:23:19] Speaker 1: My game's that. My game's that. College game's that.
[2:23:22] Speaker 3: They running from this smoke.
[2:23:24] Speaker 1: Call of Duty, Mortal Kombat, Undisputed, 2K.
[2:23:28] Speaker 5: So, like, right now, we're all trying to perfect our games?
[2:23:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to get good.
[2:23:32] Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get really good. Don't nobody want to
[2:23:35] Speaker 1: play me in mine. No, we're going to wait. See,
[2:23:37] Speaker 1: you're the oldest.
[2:23:38] Speaker 2: You already got, you're already up here.
[2:23:40] Speaker 1: You're in hierarchy.
[2:23:41] Speaker 3: I got plays I just can't show.
[2:23:44] Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. You're practicing your plays on them.
[2:23:47] Speaker 1: He ain't used to it yet, homie.
[2:23:49] Speaker 2: You see he get maestro, maestro, where you at?
[2:23:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, all day. I got to work out shit. Ain't
[2:23:55] Speaker 1: nobody said Kenyon yet. Ain't nobody said Kenyon. You don't lie?
[2:23:59] Speaker 1: You don't lie. Ain't nobody ask me yet. I got
[2:24:01] Speaker 1: to work out. I got to say, BJ, where your
[2:24:03] Speaker 1: ass at? Who want the ass whooped? Who want the
[2:24:07] Speaker 1: ass whooped?
[2:24:09] Speaker 2: I had to tell Gil, listen, Gil, people with their family, dog.
[2:24:12] Speaker 2: Straight up. Day before Thanksgiving, who want their ass whooped?
[2:24:18] Speaker 2: Don't nobody respond. Oh, y'all scared now?
[2:24:21] Speaker 1: I said, no, Gil, they with their family.
[2:24:23] Speaker 2: He said, oh, y'all don't want to get your ass
[2:24:24] Speaker 2: whooped in front of them?
[2:24:25] Speaker 1: In front of them? You can't win.
[2:24:30] Speaker 2: I tried at Disney with his people, and this dude
[2:24:33] Speaker 2: just talked to me.
[2:24:34] Speaker 1: You said Disneyland? I went. That's where all the work at, man.
[2:24:37] Speaker 1: You want to do work with a controller, man. You
[2:24:39] Speaker 1: get a lot of good work. No.
[2:24:42] Speaker 2: Work pushing a controller.
[2:24:43] Speaker 4: Listen, man, ain't nobody said, Ken, you want a game yet.
[2:24:47] Speaker 1: They're afraid of you. I'm going to say it today, though.
[2:24:49] Speaker 1: Don't even worry.
[2:24:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm just trying to. Because I realize my
[2:24:53] Speaker 2: plays work. Real good, if you don't know my play.
[2:24:58] Speaker 2: I can get all them shits off.
[2:24:59] Speaker 1: Once you start to.
[2:25:00] Speaker 3: Realize I only got four.
[2:25:03] Speaker 2: Adjusting it. The thing with Nick, he's stupid, so they're
[2:25:08] Speaker 2: all new faux plays every time he sees them.
[2:25:12] Speaker 1: You did it again? I did it 17 straight times.
[2:25:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, for some of them, you beat him 72-0. 72-0.
[2:25:19] Speaker 2: And you're supposed to quit after 21.
[2:25:21] Speaker 1: And he quit. That's why I asked.
[2:25:25] Speaker 2: I'm like, what?
[2:25:26] Speaker 1: And he, no, he quit still.
[2:25:27] Speaker 2: See, that's why I asked. Y'all don't just go to,
[2:25:29] Speaker 2: if it's 21-0. I still have three more minutes to play. So, yeah,
[2:25:33] Speaker 2: it's 65.
[2:25:33] Speaker 1: No way you get to 70, bro.
[2:25:35] Speaker 3: No way you get to 70.
[2:25:36] Speaker 1: 70 to zero?
[2:25:37] Speaker 2: That's four games.
[2:25:39] Speaker 1: Because it became the one thing. No, I got to score. Like,
[2:25:42] Speaker 1: I got to score. You got to score.
[2:25:45] Speaker 4: No, we're not going to keep playing. Oh, y'all haven't
[2:25:47] Speaker 4: played Nick yet?
[2:25:48] Speaker 1: I have. I'm 3-0.
[2:25:49] Speaker 2: He gets one play.
[2:25:52] Speaker 1: 12 yards. Hell yeah, you can't stop me. And then
[2:25:57] Speaker 1: he's going to try to throw the same play. Intercept. Intercept.
[2:26:01] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro.
[2:26:02] Speaker 2: You can't do that again.
[2:26:03] Speaker 9: Again.
[2:26:04] Speaker 1: Why? Throw the same play. You know exactly who he's
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: going to. Thank you. Let's bet money next time, man. Hey, Nick,
[2:26:11] Speaker 1: let's bet some money next time. That's where y'all at
[2:26:13] Speaker 1: in the chat now.
[2:26:14] Speaker 3: I heard somebody say let's bet.
[2:26:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's bet some money now, bro. Let's do the
[2:26:18] Speaker 1: higher lowers.
[2:26:19] Speaker 2: Higher lowers. This is big W, bro.
[2:26:21] Speaker 1: You said do the brackets, though.
[2:26:23] Speaker 2: That was a... Nice little idea.
[2:26:24] Speaker 1: Nick, lower.
[2:26:24] Speaker 2: 5 points. Doesn't seem like one of you will win.
[2:26:27] Speaker 2: Take that lower. Hey, take the higher lower. The funny part,
[2:26:30] Speaker 2: it was 50-0 first. Then the next day was 72-0.
[2:26:34] Speaker 2: Got too much time. But we will have the gaming
[2:26:37] Speaker 2: practice soon. Appreciate all y'all. Appreciate our crew for these
[2:26:41] Speaker 2: lovely holiday decorations. Beginning to look a lot like Kwanzaa
[2:26:45] Speaker 2: out here. Uh-oh.
[2:26:47] Speaker 1: I don't... Yeah.
[2:26:49] Speaker 2: You got to find your sound.
[2:26:50] Speaker 1: That's all.
[2:26:51] Speaker 3: Just find your sound.
[2:26:52] Speaker 1: Wait, let's see.
[2:26:52] Speaker 2: Let's check. Still not. You got to find it. You
[2:26:55] Speaker 2: got to find it. Still haven't located it. I've been
[2:26:58] Speaker 2: hitting the.
[2:26:58] Speaker 1: Curls and everything. You got to find some seasoning. You
[2:27:00] Speaker 1: got to find seasoning for the food. You got to
[2:27:03] Speaker 1: find the sound. You got to find the sound.
[2:27:05] Speaker 2: But this has been another episode. Wait, before we wrap
[2:27:08] Speaker 2: it up, make sure you pull up to our Playback
[2:27:10] Speaker 2: Watch Party tonight. Playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas will be on
[2:27:13] Speaker 2: at 5 o'clock to watch the Lakers beat the Wolves
[2:27:16] Speaker 2: in convincing fashion, reemerge as a top five team in
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: the Western Conference. So pull up and join us tonight.
[2:27:21] Speaker 2: This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:27:24] Speaker 1: We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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