# Steph Curry SAVING The Warriors FIRES UP Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 13 Nov 2025, 2 h 08 min.

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Steph Curry's Vintage Masterpiece FIRES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Aren Crew react to Steph Curry dropping a classic 40 piece to carry the Golden State Warriors over the San Antonio Spurs and debate if the Warriors' old heads are legit contenders to bring the dynasty back to the bay area. Next, they break down Victor Wembanyama getting his groove back as the San Antonio Spurs superstar has benefitted greatly from the return of De'Aaron Fox before reacting to the OKC Thunder's takedown of the Los Angeles Lakers, sparking a debate on if this Thunder team can be one of the greatest teams of all time as Shai Gilgeous Alexander pushes for his 2nd consecutive NBA MVP Award. Finally, they react to Luka Doncic's comments on the firing of Nico Harrison as Slovenian Jesus finally has closure on the upside down chapter of his before breaking down the NBA MVP odds this season, sparking a debate on if race for the best player in the league proves international hoopers are taking over the NBA. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Kenyon Martin & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog today. Go to https://RuffGreens.com and use promo code “Arena” Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Buy Cooking With Larry Shirts HERE - https://wearhouse5ive.com/#1004ad8e5e... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 Steph Curry's Masterpiece Saves The Warriors 0:06:55 Wemby Gets His Groove Back 0:50:03 Shai & The Thunder Destroy The Lakers 1:07:25 Luka Reacts To The Firing Of Nico Harrison 1:43:07 International Players Are TAKING OVER The NBA 1:49:15 MostlyFans 2:06:18 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog.
[0:03] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa! Glorious Thursday here in the arena. Got a
[0:08] Speaker 2: full couch. I like that nigga, bro.
[0:12] Speaker 1: Already started. What's up, Gil? See you rocking your Wizards gear.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Y'all together. Yeah. I thought you said we couldn't wear
[0:21] Speaker 2: certain shit, like certain teams. Yeah, that's a team. I
[0:25] Speaker 2: know you said one of them, but... Chill the fire.
[0:28] Speaker 2: But you can't go the whole, like, the shoes, the
[0:31] Speaker 2: wizard shoes. Look like an American flag. Man. Look like
[0:35] Speaker 2: you ready there. So is. Proud to be an American.
[0:41] Speaker 2: All right. You can't wear that teal blue out there.
[0:45] Speaker 2: But this, you're good. This is a good color. That's
[0:47] Speaker 2: when they were good?
[0:49] Speaker 3: Huh? That's when they were good? No, they wasn't good. Yeah,
[0:52] Speaker 3: because you were. No, they wasn't good in this color. Oh,
[0:55] Speaker 3: you did that for Kwame. I'm making his colorway look good.
[0:59] Speaker 3: The team, when they wore this, wasn't good. We was
[1:02] Speaker 3: good when we was teal or that black and gold.
[1:05] Speaker 2: So you should have worn that one. Yeah.
[1:07] Speaker 4: See, because I was wearing the Bucs stuff when they
[1:09] Speaker 4: were good. They were winning, champions. Like that Bucs logo, champion.
[1:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, but that, yeah.
[1:13] Speaker 3: That?
[1:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that just... Listen, I don't know what the
[1:19] Speaker 2: Wizards did to you, brother.
[1:21] Speaker 3: You know what they did to you. No, I don't
[1:22] Speaker 3: know what they did to you, brother. Because all this
[1:25] Speaker 3: wizard hate out here, man. It's crazy with you.
[1:27] Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about that.
[1:29] Speaker 3: You had 18? You averaged 18, man. You should be
[1:31] Speaker 3: mad at your agent, not the Wizards.
[1:34] Speaker 2: They let you do you.
[1:36] Speaker 3: Your agent keeps you in the back inside to follow.
[1:40] Speaker 2: That's him. That wasn't the Wizards. That was Denver. Denver
[1:46] Speaker 2: did that.
[1:46] Speaker 1: Follow was on the Denver team with him. I wanted
[1:48] Speaker 1: to be like Aaron to follow. Did he start for y'all?
[1:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. Damn. Let me get it.
[1:54] Speaker 3: George used to fuck with him, though.
[1:56] Speaker 2: But he was consistent, right?
[1:57] Speaker 3: What?
[1:57] Speaker 2: I follow?
[1:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, because he didn't drink.
[1:59] Speaker 2: He didn't drink and do what? He didn't party. He
[2:01] Speaker 2: was good old.
[2:01] Speaker 3: He went out with us one time, and we told
[2:03] Speaker 3: him we couldn't do it no more.
[2:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was good. He was. He said we
[2:06] Speaker 2: told him we couldn't do it no more. Had a
[2:08] Speaker 2: bad game. So he was. Stay back, young fella. Can't
[2:12] Speaker 2: handle this life. Go to chapel. For real.
[2:15] Speaker 1: He was a professional.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Yeah. OK. So he got paid for being a professional.
[2:20] Speaker 2: That is numbers. But this is Gil's Arena presented by
[2:24] Speaker 2: Hunter Dogg. Whoop, whoop.
[2:26] Speaker 5: I'm your host, Josiah Johnson. As always, we got the NBA.
[2:28] Speaker 5: So he ain't got no Hennessy problem, right?
[2:30] Speaker 2: No, no. He ain't have his little flack on.
[2:32] Speaker 3: No.
[2:32] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:34] Speaker 1: As always, we got the NBA and NBA 2K legend,
[2:36] Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas.
[2:39] Speaker 2: He wasn't coming to the game like this, huh?
[2:41] Speaker 3: I'm not saying that was you, but I'm not sure.
[2:44] Speaker 5: Next to Gil, we got NBA champion of the world,
[2:47] Speaker 5: Swaggy P, Nick Young. Bringing his championship experience to the arena.
[2:53] Speaker 5: Next to Swaggy, representing Tough Crowd, card-carrying Country Club member, Mr. B.
[2:59] Speaker 5: Brandon Jennings, Compton Country Club in the building.
[3:01] Speaker 1: They got Country Club in Compton? Yep.
[3:06] Speaker 2: Okay. Shout out to Compton.
[3:09] Speaker 5: And on this side of the couch, we got the
[3:10] Speaker 5: distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin,
[3:14] Speaker 5: back here with us. And last but not least, the
[3:22] Speaker 5: man they call Corporate Cemetery Larry, NCAA Champion of the
[3:26] Speaker 5: World Rashad McCants.
[3:29] Speaker 2: Suited and booted. Got the crown. Back ready to go.
[3:34] Speaker 2: Missed you. No, y'all don't. Don't fucking miss me.
[3:39] Speaker 1: You niggas don't cheer for me like I'm a part
[3:42] Speaker 1: of the team no more, goddammit.
[3:44] Speaker 2: It's going to be okay. We're going to cook anyway, goddammit.
[3:47] Speaker 2: Let's get to cooking.
[3:48] Speaker 5: So we got a lot to discuss, but here's what's
[3:50] Speaker 5: cracking in Gil's arena today. The Thunder are off to
[3:53] Speaker 5: the best start in franchise history and Jalen Williams ain't
[3:56] Speaker 5: even played a game yet. Does OKC have a legit
[4:00] Speaker 5: shot at the single season wins record? Chef Curry cooked
[4:04] Speaker 5: up another vintage performance to help the Warriors snap their
[4:06] Speaker 5: six game road losing streak. What message are the Dubs
[4:10] Speaker 5: old heads sending to the YNs? And there were a
[4:13] Speaker 5: record 135 international players on NBA rosters to start this season.
[4:17] Speaker 5: Will this be the first time we see an all foreign,
[4:20] Speaker 5: all NBA first team squad But before we get into
[4:22] Speaker 5: all that, as always, this show is brought to you
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[4:50] Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcast from. So we're going to
[4:53] Speaker 5: start this show in the West, where Golden State is
[4:55] Speaker 5: looking to avoid going into crisis mode early in the season.
[4:59] Speaker 5: Warriors got smacked by the Thunder in OKC Tuesday night
[5:02] Speaker 5: to fall to 6-6 in what was their sixth straight
[5:04] Speaker 5: road loss. After that game, Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler
[5:08] Speaker 5: had some pointed comments about some of the issues the
[5:10] Speaker 5: team is facing.
[5:11] Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
[5:13] Speaker 1: I think everyone has a personal agenda in this league.
[5:41] Speaker 6: But you have to make those personal agenda work in
[5:44] Speaker 6: the team confines. And if it doesn't work, then you
[5:48] Speaker 6: kind of got to get rid of your agenda. Or
[5:56] Speaker 6: eventually the agenda is the cause of someone getting.
[5:59] Speaker 2: Rid of you.
[6:01] Speaker 5: So according to reports, Green and Butler's comments may have
[6:03] Speaker 5: been directed at both Jonathan Kaminga and Brandon Pajemski. Warriors
[6:07] Speaker 5: responded by moving Kaminga to the bench for the game
[6:09] Speaker 5: against the Spurs Wednesday night. I know it's hard out here, Swaggy,
[6:12] Speaker 5: with your former team where you won your championship. So
[6:15] Speaker 5: after starting him for the first 12 games this season,
[6:17] Speaker 5: they opted to go with rookie Will Richard and Moses
[6:20] Speaker 5: Moody in the small ball lineup with Draymond Green at center.
[6:23] Speaker 2: They got back on.
[6:24] Speaker 5: The right track, though, thanks to a vintage Steph Curry
[6:26] Speaker 5: performance in his second game back after missing the previous
[6:29] Speaker 5: three with an illness. Let's take a look at the
[6:31] Speaker 5: highlights if we can, please. So Chef Curry cooked the
[6:35] Speaker 5: Spurs to the tune of 46 points, five rebounds, and
[6:37] Speaker 5: five assists, 12-25 from the field, 15-16 from the line,
[6:42] Speaker 5: scored 29 of those 46 points in the second half.
[6:45] Speaker 5: Steph's 73rd career 40-point game, 12th since turning 35, which
[6:50] Speaker 5: is tied with MJ for the second most all-time. Jimmy
[6:52] Speaker 5: Butler added 28 points on 7-12 shooting, along with eight
[6:56] Speaker 5: assists and six rebounds, and Moody had 19. Kaminga did
[6:59] Speaker 5: not score in his 12 minutes off the bench. and
[7:02] Speaker 5: Will Richard had three points in 22 minutes as the starter.
[7:06] Speaker 5: So Wimby and Stephon Castle both messed around and dropped
[7:08] Speaker 5: triple doubles in the game. The Alien had 31 points,
[7:10] Speaker 5: 15 boards, and 10 assists, but also had eight turnovers,
[7:14] Speaker 5: while Castle had 23, 10, and 10. They both needed
[7:17] Speaker 5: the final moments of the game to accomplish defeat, with
[7:19] Speaker 5: Castle grabbing his 10th rebound with five seconds remaining, Wimby
[7:22] Speaker 5: getting his 10th assist on a full-court heave in the
[7:25] Speaker 5: final play of the game. Wimby and Castle, fifth due
[7:29] Speaker 5: on NBA history with 20-point triple doubles in the same game.
[7:32] Speaker 2: First duo to do so in a loss.
[7:34] Speaker 5: So Warriors were down by as much as 16 in
[7:35] Speaker 5: the first half, but Curry put the team on its
[7:38] Speaker 5: back in the second half. Dubs outscored the Spurs by
[7:40] Speaker 5: 12 in the final two quarters. Warriors gave the Spurs
[7:45] Speaker 5: their first home loss of the season, as we can
[7:50] Speaker 5: see right here. And here's Wimby getting his triple-double with
[7:54] Speaker 5: the assist to Castle. 0.2 seconds remaining on the clock.
[7:57] Speaker 5: Game already decided at that point.
[8:01] Speaker 2: Got it, coach. We did it.
[8:05] Speaker 5: Warriors gave the Spurs their first home loss of the
[8:06] Speaker 5: season while snapping their six-game road losing streak. But let's
[8:10] Speaker 5: take a look at Steph and what he was able
[8:13] Speaker 5: to do in that game. So you look at most
[8:15] Speaker 5: 40-point games on 70% true shooting percentage in NBA history.
[8:18] Speaker 5: Steph has 67 of those games, most in NBA history,
[8:23] Speaker 5: getting buckets. So after the game, Steph had this to
[8:26] Speaker 5: say about the current state of the Warriors.
[8:28] Speaker 7: We're not going to sit in a situation and just
[8:32] Speaker 7: think that things are going to change on their own
[8:33] Speaker 7: like whether that's um you know lineup changes whether that's
[8:38] Speaker 7: how we're approaching the game whether it's energy whatever it
[8:41] Speaker 7: is um and we've.
[8:44] Speaker 2: Been around the block long enough and we have.
[8:46] Speaker 7: Enough experience to know we can address stuff and not
[8:49] Speaker 7: make it personal it's everybody taking accountability and ownership And
[8:55] Speaker 7: keeping it real, we'll probably have to do it three,
[8:57] Speaker 7: four more times down the rest of the season. This
[8:58] Speaker 7: is the way basketball is at this level. We need
[9:00] Speaker 7: to have expectations.
[9:02] Speaker 2: On a scale of, like, one to ten, how do
[9:04] Speaker 2: you name an ultimate crisis?
[9:06] Speaker 3: Four.
[9:06] Speaker 2: Four? Okay. I was wondering how low. It might be
[9:10] Speaker 2: a little higher than I thought we were going to go.
[9:12] Speaker 3: Was it four?
[9:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. It sounded four. Scale of one to ten in
[9:18] Speaker 2: terms of crisis, the deficit of four. Mm-hmm.
[9:21] Speaker 5: But Mr. B, how important was Steph having a vintage
[9:23] Speaker 5: performance like this to get the Warriors back on track?
[9:27] Speaker 2: I mean, not just for him, just for the Warriors,
[9:29] Speaker 2: just in general. They've been struggling.
[9:32] Speaker 4: I don't know what Steve Kerr's on, you know, playing
[9:34] Speaker 4: with the lineup, playing with Kaminga and things like that. But,
[9:37] Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Steph got to go for 46
[9:39] Speaker 4: every night, things like that. It's going to be a
[9:41] Speaker 4: long year for them. You know, Jimmy Butler is their
[9:45] Speaker 4: number two. He's averaging 19, should be averaging more. I
[9:48] Speaker 4: think that could take some weight off Steph's plate. And
[9:51] Speaker 4: then the other guys, they got to show up and start,
[9:53] Speaker 4: you know, balling. But they got to figure out what
[9:55] Speaker 4: they're going to do with Kaminga and Steve Kerr because
[9:57] Speaker 4: it's just all over the place.
[10:00] Speaker 5: Let's shift to this side of the couch. Corporate Cemetery, Larry,
[10:04] Speaker 5: you said previously Kaminga needs to get out of that
[10:07] Speaker 5: burning building. Obviously, Warriors made the playoffs last season. They
[10:09] Speaker 5: gave them the extension after a heated summer negotiations. But
[10:13] Speaker 5: what does it mean for Steph Kerr to have a
[10:16] Speaker 5: vintage performance like this to help the Warriors get back
[10:18] Speaker 5: on the right track?
[10:20] Speaker 1: It means that they're probably as cooked as I thought
[10:23] Speaker 1: they were. Steph haven't really had a game like this
[10:27] Speaker 1: in a while. He's been shooting bad from the field,
[10:30] Speaker 1: trying to figure out identity for the team. Probably the
[10:34] Speaker 1: two guys that's actually out there really playing is Kaminga
[10:36] Speaker 1: and Poginski, playing hard, trying to make things happen. And
[10:40] Speaker 1: I think for them to put everything on Kaminga is
[10:44] Speaker 1: just crazy. It's a crazy scapegoat. It's a crazy scapegoat because...
[10:50] Speaker 1: He didn't ask for none of this. He just want
[10:52] Speaker 1: to hoop. And you got guys presumably pointing the finger
[10:58] Speaker 1: at somebody who just want to go out there and
[11:00] Speaker 1: prove himself. And it's just nasty work. You know, Jimmy,
[11:06] Speaker 1: before this season, talked about all the noise, all the
[11:15] Speaker 1: chaos paid off in a major way. I'm lucky to
[11:18] Speaker 1: be part of a phenomenal organization. Everywhere starts off great,
[11:23] Speaker 1: but then, you know, someone has to be the bad guy,
[11:27] Speaker 1: and it gets to be me. I'm always the one
[11:30] Speaker 1: doing something unbearable all of a sudden, but that's okay.
[11:35] Speaker 1: I get to play in a wonderful league with some
[11:38] Speaker 1: amazing teammates, but being here, they've only got one goal,
[11:44] Speaker 1: to keep hanging those things on the wall.
[11:46] Speaker 2: Ain't no hidden agendas. He did say that.
[11:51] Speaker 1: It sounds like he's hiding some shit right now. Sounds
[11:55] Speaker 1: like he got there and all of a sudden everybody's
[11:58] Speaker 1: having this, what are we doing? We ain't playing defense.
[12:01] Speaker 1: I don't want to hear none of that shit. Because
[12:04] Speaker 1: you left from being a star player to go to
[12:06] Speaker 1: play Robin. Now shit is all flustered and fucked up
[12:10] Speaker 1: and this nigga got to go score 46 to go
[12:12] Speaker 1: prove that the team can win.
[12:14] Speaker 2: That's weak. Hmm.
[12:17] Speaker 1: I don't need everybody to figure out who's going to
[12:18] Speaker 1: take the blame, man. Be accountable. The leaders are the leaders.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga and Brzezinski are not the leaders. Why the
[12:26] Speaker 1: hell are y'all pointing fingers at them? If that's what
[12:29] Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't know if that's what they're doing,
[12:30] Speaker 1: but it just looked nasty.
[12:32] Speaker 5: So Steph may not necessarily be the vocal leader of
[12:34] Speaker 5: this Warriors squad, but he is the top dog. McKenna Steph,
[12:37] Speaker 5: 11 points in that 24-point loss to the Thunder on Tuesday.
[12:40] Speaker 5: Comes back Wednesday, 46-piece. Here's all the noise. Here's Dre
[12:44] Speaker 5: and Jimmy saying what they have to say. But makes
[12:47] Speaker 5: that statement with the 46 piece to give the Spurs
[12:49] Speaker 5: the first home loss of the season. What did a
[12:51] Speaker 5: vintage performance like that from Steph mean for this Warriors
[12:54] Speaker 5: squad based on what they're dealing with right now?
[12:58] Speaker 3: What are they dealing with? Besides not being good enough.
[13:03] Speaker 3: And besides Steve Kerr and the organization playing with this
[13:07] Speaker 3: boy Jonathan Kamiga's career. What are they dealing with? This
[13:11] Speaker 3: is the team they wanted. This is what they needed.
[13:13] Speaker 3: signed up for it, they had an off season to
[13:15] Speaker 3: go get, they went and got an old ass Al Horford.
[13:21] Speaker 3: Play the people who want to go out there and
[13:22] Speaker 3: who's trying to prove themselves. Like you said, I don't
[13:25] Speaker 3: get it. Why bring the kid back to do this
[13:27] Speaker 3: to him again? This is.
[13:30] Speaker 3: Like, where is the Players Association at?
[13:34] Speaker 2: Like, dead ass, man. Like, where they at? Do we
[13:37] Speaker 2: have one? Like, where they at? They playing.
[13:41] Speaker 3: See, that's the crazy thing. And that's the crazy work.
[13:44] Speaker 3: You shouldn't be an active player at the head of
[13:46] Speaker 3: the Players Association. Like, no, you need, like, but, yeah, like,
[13:50] Speaker 3: where they at in this situation? Like, why ain't nobody
[13:52] Speaker 3: saying nothing? Why ain't nobody, like, that's nasty work, and
[13:55] Speaker 3: they keep allowing to do this to this kid, man. Like, that's, and, but,
[14:02] Speaker 3: To everybody's point, if Steph has to play like this
[14:06] Speaker 3: for them to.
[14:06] Speaker 2: Get wins.
[14:09] Speaker 3: Night in and night out in this league, good luck.
[14:10] Speaker 2: It's going to be a long season. Right? Long season.
[14:15] Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's unsettling what they're doing to this kid, man.
[14:21] Speaker 3: All he wanted to do was play basketball and, like
[14:23] Speaker 3: Rashad said, prove himself. Like, that's what you're in this
[14:27] Speaker 3: league for, to prove yourself to him. We need points.
[14:31] Speaker 3: We having a problem scoring. I'm aggressive. Where is that
[14:36] Speaker 3: supposed to meet? That's where the rubber meets the road, right?
[14:40] Speaker 3: You need points. Got an aggressive ball player. Let's help him.
[14:45] Speaker 3: And another note, like, Jimmy, you can't be criticizing people
[14:49] Speaker 3: and talking shit to people with your fucking do-rag on
[14:51] Speaker 3: looking like that, looking like somebody's fucking auntie on the
[14:53] Speaker 3: porch smoking fucking cigarettes and drinking malt liquor.
[14:57] Speaker 2: Precious? Is that what you mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
[15:03] Speaker 3: Dude, I'm not taking you serious if I'm them. If
[15:06] Speaker 3: I'm Jonathan Kamiga, no, I'm not taking you.
[15:07] Speaker 1: If you are directing that at me, if I'm Jonathan Kamiga,
[15:10] Speaker 1: I'm not taking you serious.
[15:14] Speaker 2: Like, how can I take you, look over there, and
[15:16] Speaker 2: you trying to be serious? Like, dude, really?
[15:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I went to this restaurant in Dallas, right? Dude,
[15:23] Speaker 3: I had a hat. I'm going in, the dude at
[15:26] Speaker 3: the door told me I couldn't wear my baseball cap.
[15:28] Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool. I ain't got no problem.
[15:30] Speaker 2: That's the rules in the restaurant. Cool. This, that, and
[15:32] Speaker 2: the third.
[15:32] Speaker 3: I go in, sit at the bar. I asked who
[15:35] Speaker 3: the manager was. Like, the people coming in, they like, hey,
[15:37] Speaker 3: King's Mart, man, good to see you. You home for
[15:39] Speaker 3: the week?
[15:40] Speaker 2: Like, yeah. I'm like, yo, who in charge?
[15:42] Speaker 3: He come over there. I'm like, hey, man, thanks for
[15:44] Speaker 3: having me in your staff. I'm like, so there's no
[15:48] Speaker 3: hats in the restaurant?
[15:48] Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, cool. I'm like, well.
[15:51] Speaker 3: The dude at the door in the do-rag can't be
[15:54] Speaker 3: the one to tell me I can't fucking wear my hat.
[15:58] Speaker 3: Not like, it's the wrong message. Like, Jimmy, you can't
[16:01] Speaker 3: have it. I'm not, just not gonna take you serious, bro.
[16:05] Speaker 3: From him.
[16:07] Speaker 2: Like, just, the dude with the do-rag.
[16:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, the dude at the door in the do-rag and
[16:12] Speaker 3: all he could do was laugh, right? He like, yeah,
[16:14] Speaker 3: you know what, you got a point.
[16:16] Speaker 2: Right.
[16:16] Speaker 5: Let's just start guilt. Steph coming through 46 piece, get
[16:20] Speaker 5: the win.
[16:22] Speaker 2: Stop saying vintage. It's regular? Yeah, that's what he does. Okay. Yeah,
[16:28] Speaker 2: vintage means we ain't seen us in a while, and
[16:32] Speaker 2: he brings out one of those type of games. That's vintage.
[16:36] Speaker 3: If he did this game one, two, he had 42
[16:39] Speaker 3: and better shooting percentage game two. So this is not
[16:42] Speaker 3: a vintage. This is just I just got back off
[16:46] Speaker 3: of injury. I had 11 points the first game, and
[16:49] Speaker 3: then boom, what's happening?
[16:51] Speaker 2: I'm back.
[16:51] Speaker 3: Right, so you're talking about a team who they're 6-6.
[16:55] Speaker 2: Steph Curry. 7-6, right. 7-6.
[16:57] Speaker 3: Curry's missed a couple games, right? They took some L's.
[17:02] Speaker 3: They start off the season 4-2. Everybody's talking. So it's
[17:05] Speaker 3: just one of those things, right? You're trying to pretend
[17:08] Speaker 3: that they're that good when Steph is not playing or
[17:13] Speaker 3: Steph is not balling, right?
[17:15] Speaker 2: And that's the problem.
[17:17] Speaker 3: When y'all started the season 4-2, yeah, this is what
[17:20] Speaker 3: we're talking about. and then Seth missed a couple games,
[17:23] Speaker 3: y'all started losing, then now it's seven and six, and
[17:27] Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, we need to make some changes around here.
[17:29] Speaker 2: For who? You subbed in somebody. How he do? What,
[17:32] Speaker 2: he have a hole two? He had a hole two.
[17:35] Speaker 2: Three points in the game. Oh, he had a hole three.
[17:37] Speaker 2: Moses Moody, though, did have a 15 in the game.
[17:39] Speaker 3: So he had three, and then the guy you subbed
[17:41] Speaker 3: had zero. So between the two of them, one and
[17:45] Speaker 3: a half. So your decision, so one average is what, 15? Yeah.
[17:50] Speaker 2: Whatever he averaged, this is what they was averaging playing
[17:53] Speaker 2: in a position.
[17:54] Speaker 1: Richard averaging 10.
[17:56] Speaker 2: So 25 from these two. Start a bench. Switch it up.
[18:02] Speaker 1: 3-0.
[18:02] Speaker 2: My man. Great coach. I know you got the win,
[18:07] Speaker 2: but that sounds great.
[18:07] Speaker 3: I had a question before you started. So who has
[18:10] Speaker 3: the most 40-point games under 70% true shooting percentage? Like,
[18:15] Speaker 3: I fucking hate that, listen, that fucking true shooting. Like,
[18:18] Speaker 3: who has the most 40-point games? At high efficiency, though, K.
[18:22] Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does it mean? What does
[18:24] Speaker 2: the percentage have? What type of percentage? So give me
[18:27] Speaker 2: who has the most.
[18:28] Speaker 4: You should have said at the age over 30.
[18:31] Speaker 1: No, no, what I'm saying is do you have to...
[18:34] Speaker 1: 12th 40-point game, 35-year-old, that's second most all-time. So what's
[18:36] Speaker 1: true versus regular? I think 43 at 30-year-old, which is
[18:39] Speaker 1: second to MJ.
[18:40] Speaker 3: What is the percentage that you have to make averaging
[18:43] Speaker 3: the score of 40?
[18:44] Speaker 2: Does it have to be 60% of your shots, 55%
[18:46] Speaker 2: of your shots? Well, Gil, the score of 40 can
[18:48] Speaker 2: be any percentage of your shots.
[18:49] Speaker 3: So why does the true percentage matter then?
[18:51] Speaker 2: Because he's showing that he can do it at a
[18:52] Speaker 2: very efficient rate.
[18:55] Speaker 3: So what is that rate for it to be 40?
[19:01] Speaker 3: Because we know it's not 40. What is the percentage?
[19:05] Speaker 3: You have to be shooting at a certain percentage.
[19:08] Speaker 2: There's benchmarks.
[19:10] Speaker 3: What is the percentage of the benchmark for it to
[19:12] Speaker 3: be in this category?
[19:15] Speaker 2: There has to be a benchmark. 70%. So in that game,
[19:18] Speaker 2: you had to shoot. He didn't shoot 70%. True shooting.
[19:21] Speaker 2: True shooting. The square mathematical shit. It's true shooting.
[19:25] Speaker 3: So what is that?
[19:26] Speaker 2: It's true shooting.
[19:26] Speaker 1: So what is true shooting? It's adding up all your...
[19:28] Speaker 1: So what is it? Your field goals, your three-pointers, your
[19:30] Speaker 1: free-throw percentage.
[19:32] Speaker 2: Yep. Get it off, Joe. Get it off, Joe.
[19:34] Speaker 1: I don't... Get it off, Joe.
[19:36] Speaker 2: I came up with the stat. It's impressive. Tell him, Joe. Okay.
[19:41] Speaker 2: Say it again.
[19:43] Speaker 1: We just talked on the.
[19:43] Speaker 2: Show yesterday about Joker.
[19:45] Speaker 1: Doing what he's doing.
[19:46] Speaker 2: What is this? What is this? What was that word
[19:51] Speaker 2: we used last week? I don't know. Go ahead. I'll
[19:58] Speaker 2: let you cook. I just want to know.
[20:01] Speaker 5: It's basketball statistics that measure a player's shooting or scoring
[20:04] Speaker 5: efficiency by incorporating field goals, three-pointers, and free throws into
[20:07] Speaker 5: a single metric.
[20:08] Speaker 2: In one game. In the game itself. It could be
[20:11] Speaker 2: in a game, a season. Okay, so you combine them.
[20:16] Speaker 3: So basically you combine the field goal percentage plus the
[20:20] Speaker 3: free throw percentage plus the three-point percentage, and then you
[20:22] Speaker 3: get the 70 because he missed one free throw. I
[20:26] Speaker 3: think it was like five for 16 from three, though.
[20:28] Speaker 3: Five for 16.
[20:29] Speaker 2: 13 for 25. 16 of his 25 shots were threes.
[20:30] Speaker 1: So the thing is, Consider if you shoot over 60%,
[20:41] Speaker 1: true shooting is elite.
[20:42] Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
[20:45] Speaker 1: But if you shoot 40%, you shoot.
[20:49] Speaker 3: 40% from the field, but you make all your free throws,
[20:52] Speaker 3: it gets you back up.
[20:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh-oh. Okay.
[21:01] Speaker 3: So if I'm horrible at this point, shooting when a
[21:06] Speaker 3: nigga playing defense on me, And then I make all
[21:09] Speaker 3: my free throws where there's no defense.
[21:12] Speaker 2: It heightens my true shoot position. Like I'm out there
[21:17] Speaker 2: motherfucking killing. Yeah.
[21:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Kane Cunningham just had how many missed shots?
[21:24] Speaker 3: 45.
[21:25] Speaker 2: 31 missed shots. Did we talk about the missed shots
[21:27] Speaker 2: or the 46? Yeah, I talked about the missed shots. Right.
[21:29] Speaker 1: So if he hits 17 for 17 from the free
[21:32] Speaker 1: throw line.
[21:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:33] Speaker 1: His true percentage goes up. Erases whatever shot y'all thought
[21:38] Speaker 1: he missed.
[21:39] Speaker 2: The 31 misses. Right. If he wins the game 46
[21:42] Speaker 2: and he missed it. I mean, what?
[21:44] Speaker 1: But to your point, if I'm able to get to
[21:46] Speaker 1: the free throw line, that means I exploited the defense
[21:48] Speaker 1: to create more scoring opportunities.
[21:49] Speaker 2: The nigga shot the ball 31. You left free. I
[21:52] Speaker 2: don't know about what I'm saying.
[21:53] Speaker 1: You're saying this is you're using this as a metric to.
[21:58] Speaker 2: Determine how great someone is. ability is to score. No,
[22:02] Speaker 2: just a benchmark.
[22:03] Speaker 3: But the fact that there's a part on it where
[22:06] Speaker 3: there's no defense at all.
[22:08] Speaker 2: I can shoot technicals.
[22:09] Speaker 3: There's no pressure on this shot, and it's still added.
[22:13] Speaker 3: And it counts.
[22:14] Speaker 2: It counts. Like, it's crazy. But then that stat for
[22:16] Speaker 2: Steph is not impressive.
[22:17] Speaker 5: But generally, to get to the free throw line, besides text,
[22:21] Speaker 5: what are you doing to get to the free throw line?
[22:22] Speaker 3: But I'm shooting this shot with no defense, and it's
[22:25] Speaker 3: called true shooting percentage.
[22:27] Speaker 2: Right. But Free throws count as points, right? Regardless of
[22:31] Speaker 2: who's shooting. Regardless, right? You got to make them.
[22:34] Speaker 1: How do you get to the free throw line? You
[22:35] Speaker 1: got to make the free throws. You know better. You
[22:37] Speaker 1: know best at that. I'm 0 for 5 from the
[22:41] Speaker 1: three-point line. 0 for 5.
[22:43] Speaker 2: From the field goal.
[22:44] Speaker 3: I haven't made no motherfucking shot in the game that
[22:49] Speaker 3: has to do with shooting.
[22:51] Speaker 2: Go to the free throw line. I'm 20 for 20.
[22:54] Speaker 3: And I'm the best shooter out here. You see how
[22:58] Speaker 3: that looks weird? You see how that looks weird? 0
[23:02] Speaker 3: for field, 0 for 3, 100% for the free throw line.
[23:05] Speaker 1: Like, what's up? 20 for 20 for the free throw line.
[23:09] Speaker 1: That's impressive. That's impressive.
[23:11] Speaker 2: 17, 8. I'm just talking about just.
[23:13] Speaker 5: To play devil advocate here. So Gil, say you 0
[23:15] Speaker 5: for 5 from the field. You 0 for 5 from 3.
[23:18] Speaker 5: You go 20 for 20 from the free throw line.
[23:19] Speaker 1: If somebody asks you how much you had in the game,
[23:21] Speaker 1: what are you going to say?
[23:22] Speaker 2: 20 points. Okay. You're going to be like, I was
[23:25] Speaker 2: over five, though.
[23:26] Speaker 3: No, nigga, I had 20. But my true shooting percentage is.
[23:31] Speaker 1: You're not going to lead with that. We all know
[23:33] Speaker 1: you're not going to say my true percentage was... No, no,
[23:35] Speaker 1: you do.
[23:35] Speaker 2: You're going to say I had 20.
[23:36] Speaker 1: There ain't nobody going to ask you because there ain't
[23:38] Speaker 1: nobody going to lead the conversation with, yo, what was
[23:40] Speaker 1: your true shooting percentage last night? There ain't nobody going
[23:42] Speaker 1: to lead the conversation with that shit, so it's.
[23:43] Speaker 2: Like, hey... But that's a stat to make sense. That's
[23:46] Speaker 2: a stat to make sense for good. How many you
[23:49] Speaker 2: had last night?
[23:51] Speaker 1: All they gonna ask you is how many you had
[23:52] Speaker 1: last night.
[23:53] Speaker 8: Making 20 straight free throws.
[23:55] Speaker 2: Is impressive, bro.
[23:57] Speaker 5: In case the clutch checks dry up, I'm trying to
[23:59] Speaker 5: get the unanimous check as well, sir.
[24:01] Speaker 2: Can I give praise and stuff? In the game? Yes.
[24:05] Speaker 2: You know who owns the free throw percentage? The free throw, like,
[24:09] Speaker 2: Guinness Books of Records? Who? Probably an old nigga that just...
[24:12] Speaker 2: I almost had it.
[24:14] Speaker 3: Some old man that's 77 years, 80 years old, that
[24:18] Speaker 3: sit there and shoot like this, owns a goddamn record
[24:20] Speaker 3: for it.
[24:21] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. You put some defense out there and
[24:23] Speaker 1: they can't score on you.
[24:24] Speaker 2: What's the most you made in a row? Free throws.
[24:29] Speaker 2: I think Steph has the highest career free throw percentage. No,
[24:31] Speaker 2: I'm just talking about Guinness Book of Records. There's probably
[24:34] Speaker 2: an old man out there with a straight.
[24:37] Speaker 3: To your point, I was a real basketball player. Right,
[24:39] Speaker 3: so I don't know how many free throws I took.
[24:41] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[24:42] Speaker 2: Well, I thought you used a free throw. No, no, no.
[24:45] Speaker 3: I have this 29 in the game. The one thing
[24:48] Speaker 3: I didn't pay attention to is how many free throws
[24:49] Speaker 3: I made in a row.
[24:50] Speaker 2: Right? How many buckets I got in a row. How
[24:53] Speaker 2: many threes I made in a row. How many crossovers.
[24:56] Speaker 2: Game winners. No, no, no. It was just part of
[24:59] Speaker 2: the real basketball. But to your point, I did see
[25:01] Speaker 2: Anthony Miracolo. How many you got? What was everybody else?
[25:03] Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you know. Yeah.
[25:06] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, you know, because you didn't average 29,
[25:08] Speaker 3: so you kept up with shit like that.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Okay. I'm just making sure.
[25:13] Speaker 5: To your point about free throws, I saw Anthony Miracola
[25:15] Speaker 5: come to the first ever Gills Arena shootout and make
[25:17] Speaker 5: more threes than yourself.
[25:21] Speaker 2: That's not hard, though. That's not hard, though. Shoot that
[25:24] Speaker 2: nigga Joe. That's not hard. I did too. I did too.
[25:29] Speaker 1: The Gilbrick t-shirts.
[25:31] Speaker 2: He beat the whole couch, right? Yeah, we all did. Next, next, next.
[25:33] Speaker 2: You just proved the point. Chill out. We all got clapped.
[25:36] Speaker 1: Shoot percentage when somebody's not guarding you.
[25:39] Speaker 2: And since you asked to get us.
[25:41] Speaker 3: A record for consecutive made free throws at 2,750.
[25:52] Speaker 5: Over 12 hours by podiatrist Tom Amberry in 1993.
[25:56] Speaker 2: So a guy in 1993 made $ 2, 000. He was 71
[26:00] Speaker 2: years old when he did it.
[26:00] Speaker 3: His true shooting percentage. I know that because I was
[26:02] Speaker 3: a kid when I seen it. So that's why I know.
[26:05] Speaker 3: But that true shooting percentage. His true shooting percentage. He
[26:07] Speaker 3: can miss the.
[26:08] Speaker 2: Next shots the rest of his life. And he has
[26:10] Speaker 2: the highest true shooting percentage that ever lived. You guys
[26:16] Speaker 2: avoiding some analytics. I fucking hate it.
[26:20] Speaker 3: Because it makes someone sound smarter than they are because
[26:23] Speaker 3: they didn't play the game. They didn't play the game
[26:26] Speaker 3: of basketball so they used these little things to try
[26:29] Speaker 3: to make it sound like they could.
[26:30] Speaker 1: When you add up the shooting percentages, it's not like,
[26:35] Speaker 1: it's not Einstein shit. Add the shit up and say
[26:38] Speaker 1: this is the percentage based on all three together. You
[26:42] Speaker 1: separate them. Hey, Mark Price, Steph Curry, such and such,
[26:46] Speaker 1: free throws.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Yes.
[26:47] Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Steph Curry, three-pointers, Shaq, Dwight, field goal,
[26:53] Speaker 1: those all separate.
[26:54] Speaker 2: Add them together, them niggas is not in the top.
[26:56] Speaker 2: Not at all. But Steph Curry is. Yeah. Because he
[27:01] Speaker 2: shoots great. What is he? What is it? 50, 40, 90? 50-40.
[27:06] Speaker 2: KD would be in there. 50-40-90. True shooting?
[27:12] Speaker 1: That's what the metric is. It's just creating another category.
[27:15] Speaker 2: Malcolm Brogdon. Yeah, for guys that can shoot high percentages.
[27:18] Speaker 2: But then you talk about scoring 40.
[27:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're scoring 40. That's different. He averaged 13. I know,
[27:26] Speaker 1: but he went to the All-Star game. I don't give
[27:29] Speaker 1: a fuck. We already had this conversation on this couch.
[27:31] Speaker 1: We're not going to revisit this shit. Because the true shooting,
[27:34] Speaker 1: he was shooting. No, his team was winning. And I
[27:36] Speaker 1: was incorrect. The actual record is 5,221 shots. By that
[27:39] Speaker 1: same dude? No, by a dude named Ted St.
[27:41] Speaker 2: Martin.
[27:42] Speaker 1: I have no.
[27:42] Speaker 2: Idea who he is. I like that name.
[27:44] Speaker 1: But let's get back to the Warriors.
[27:47] Speaker 5: Let's shift back to the Warriors and the current situation
[27:49] Speaker 5: going on right now with Golden State. So Warriors' old
[27:52] Speaker 5: guard had some strong Warriors after their blowout loss to
[27:54] Speaker 5: the Thunder. We played the clip. of Jimmy and Draymond
[27:57] Speaker 5: calling out members of the squad, which many think to
[27:58] Speaker 5: be Kaminga and Potts. After the Thunder loss, Draymond also
[28:02] Speaker 5: talked about the biggest difference from the Warriors at the
[28:04] Speaker 5: end of last season, when they went 23-8 after the
[28:07] Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler trade. And now, and he said, I think
[28:10] Speaker 5: everybody was committed to winning and doing that any way possible.
[28:13] Speaker 5: And right now, it doesn't feel that way. I heard
[28:16] Speaker 5: nothing to do with Kaminga then. Okay, but according to reports,
[28:19] Speaker 5: let me get going.
[28:20] Speaker 2: Let me cut.
[28:20] Speaker 5: According to reports, Pod saying he wanted to be better
[28:23] Speaker 5: than Steph and carry the torch in the future had
[28:26] Speaker 5: some players on the team rolling their eyes. And like
[28:28] Speaker 5: I mentioned, Steve Kerr said Kaminga was going to be
[28:30] Speaker 5: a starter this season. Kaminga started the first 12 games.
[28:33] Speaker 5: Now back in the doghouse against the Spurs.
[28:35] Speaker 3: You didn't say how long. You didn't say how long.
[28:38] Speaker 3: You said he was going to be a starter. You
[28:39] Speaker 3: didn't say how long.
[28:40] Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, who said they were going to take the
[28:42] Speaker 2: torch from Steph? Well, Paz has been saying some stuff
[28:45] Speaker 2: coming into the season. Who?
[28:46] Speaker 5: You know, young fella. Brandon Pajewski said, I want to
[28:49] Speaker 5: be better than Steph Curry. They asked him what his
[28:50] Speaker 5: goals were. I think that's a fair goal to have,
[28:52] Speaker 5: not to say I'm going to be.
[28:53] Speaker 2: I want to be. I want to carry that torch.
[28:56] Speaker 2: Because Curry loves him.
[28:57] Speaker 3: It's shocking.
[28:59] Speaker 8: My thing is, like, the star players, from Jimmy to Draymond,
[29:07] Speaker 8: just sending shots at young fella, you know, because they
[29:11] Speaker 8: get the respect already, and they– Nobody gonna hold them
[29:14] Speaker 8: accountable and they could just throw shots at the guys
[29:18] Speaker 8: that ain't got the respect yet. They get played with,
[29:22] Speaker 8: playing time. It's easy escape though. Where Jimmy should be
[29:27] Speaker 8: a 1A right now.
[29:29] Speaker 1: He should be averaging 25 or doing whatever it takes
[29:33] Speaker 1: to win, but it's games where he has 12, 10,
[29:37] Speaker 1: don't look interested.
[29:39] Speaker 2: Fucking Draymond sometimes.
[29:41] Speaker 1: I ask my dog, don't get five rebounds in a game, man,
[29:44] Speaker 1: he the center. You putting everything on, right now, a
[29:51] Speaker 1: corner dude right now.
[29:54] Speaker 2: Is that not true? Don't put it on the... That's just,
[29:58] Speaker 2: you know, we all been through that.
[29:59] Speaker 1: It's like when I was playing, we was like down
[30:03] Speaker 1: 10 already.
[30:04] Speaker 2: They subbed me in the game.
[30:05] Speaker 8: We go down 20, but I get blamed for it
[30:09] Speaker 8: by somebody. I don't play three or four games in
[30:12] Speaker 8: a row because I got yelled at.
[30:13] Speaker 2: In front of anybody. Is that somebody in the room
[30:16] Speaker 2: right now? Yeah. Okay.
[30:18] Speaker 1: I did feel bad for it, but I didn't. It
[30:21] Speaker 1: was the Celtics, and they just had the big three.
[30:24] Speaker 2: Brand new. They already getting their ass whooped. Getting spanked. Spanked.
[30:29] Speaker 2: Looking bad. They settle us in. They go down a
[30:31] Speaker 2: little bit more.
[30:33] Speaker 3: It's our fault. I'm going to take accountability. I'm going
[30:41] Speaker 3: to say, yeah, yeah, my bad, y'all. Get these little
[30:44] Speaker 3: niggas up. You did say a couple days after.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple days after. Because I feel bad because
[30:48] Speaker 2: y'all never got in the game no more for the
[30:50] Speaker 2: next three games.
[30:51] Speaker 1: Is Draymond Green the Hall of Famer?
[30:55] Speaker 2: Yeah. First ballot. First ballot. First ballot.
[30:59] Speaker 1: Do we have expectations for his performances?
[31:01] Speaker 3: No.
[31:02] Speaker 2: No. No. No. Okay.
[31:04] Speaker 1: So it's okay for him to play 30 minutes, get
[31:07] Speaker 1: eight points, five rebounds, five assists.
[31:09] Speaker 2: One for 10. Okay.
[31:10] Speaker 3: One for 10 from the field, 0 for 7 from three.
[31:13] Speaker 1: Then it's okay. And then it's okay for him to
[31:16] Speaker 1: blame other guys. for not showing up. Not a high
[31:19] Speaker 1: true shooting percentage.
[31:20] Speaker 2: Well, Draymond does show up. I mean, he plays. So
[31:22] Speaker 2: he does show up.
[31:23] Speaker 3: He had 8-5-5 and fouled out.
[31:25] Speaker 1: 8-5-5 is enough for us to win every night. I
[31:29] Speaker 1: don't know if it's enough to win, but I know
[31:31] Speaker 1: he's so tough.
[31:31] Speaker 2: I'm asking questions, bro. I'm not giving you the answer.
[31:34] Speaker 2: We're saying yes. Yeah, yeah.
[31:37] Speaker 1: So I don't think those other guys feel the same way.
[31:40] Speaker 3: Oh, not Kaminga and Pajewski?
[31:41] Speaker 2: I don't think they feel the same way.
[31:42] Speaker 1: I think you can point the finger at me and
[31:44] Speaker 1: have one double-digit game under your belt and one double-digit
[31:48] Speaker 1: rebound under your belt in 12 games. And you're the center.
[31:53] Speaker 1: So what is it that you're pointing the finger at
[31:55] Speaker 1: me for? Because we all play hard. We all play hard.
[32:00] Speaker 1: You got one game 17, one game 10 rebound, everything
[32:04] Speaker 1: else is under, you're underperforming.
[32:07] Speaker 2: As a Hall of Famer. Six, five, and four with
[32:10] Speaker 2: four turnovers in that game. I mean, if I'm Kaminga,
[32:13] Speaker 2: then say something.
[32:13] Speaker 3: How can he?
[32:15] Speaker 2: I mean, he's in the doghouse already. Right, right, right.
[32:19] Speaker 4: So since I'm in the doghouse, y'all don't want me here,
[32:21] Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and say how I feel then.
[32:22] Speaker 3: They're going to send him to the kennel, bro. They're
[32:24] Speaker 3: going to send him to the fucking gas station. I'm
[32:25] Speaker 3: in the doghouse regardless. I never even did anything. I
[32:28] Speaker 3: never did nothing anyway. It's not his personality.
[32:31] Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, I never did anything anyway. You
[32:33] Speaker 2: put me in the doghouse, I ain't doing nothing, and
[32:34] Speaker 2: now you talk about me? Yeah, well, fuck you. I'm
[32:37] Speaker 2: going to say what I got to say. Whatever it is,
[32:38] Speaker 2: don't play me. Whatever, you don't like me anyway. Y'all
[32:41] Speaker 2: assuming that it's about Kaminga. Yeah, I don't know. I'm
[32:46] Speaker 2: just saying that that's what it is.
[32:47] Speaker 1: What he's saying is, what he's saying is, what he's
[32:50] Speaker 1: saying is, just the performance, he's looking at what Draymond average,
[32:54] Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing where I'm playing right now. That's
[32:56] Speaker 1: like getting blown by, you getting blown by in the
[32:58] Speaker 1: game and you come to the bench and be like.
[32:59] Speaker 2: Y'all help. Nigga, stay in front of your fucking man, bro.
[33:04] Speaker 2: He blowing by your ass every time you come to
[33:06] Speaker 2: the bench. I'm like, help me. Nigga, shut up. No,
[33:09] Speaker 2: I'm talking about we need to play some defense.
[33:11] Speaker 1: We need to play some defense. We need to play
[33:14] Speaker 1: some defense. It's that one that'll blow my mind. We
[33:17] Speaker 1: need to play some defense. So this is Draymond's fault?
[33:21] Speaker 2: No, I'm not. No, no.
[33:23] Speaker 3: If he's the one coming pointing fingers, he's saying all that.
[33:26] Speaker 1: So his question was, what are the expectations?
[33:29] Speaker 4: I know, but he said Draymond's going to be talking
[33:32] Speaker 4: about Kaminga. So are you saying because of Draymond's performance,
[33:36] Speaker 4: that's why they were there?
[33:37] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Partially? Partially? If you're the leader of
[33:41] Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer, what is you? Thursday? What option
[33:45] Speaker 2: are you? He ain't never been an offensive option.
[33:47] Speaker 3: All right, so sit his ass on the bench and
[33:49] Speaker 3: let somebody else come do something else. But who though?
[33:53] Speaker 3: Quit post. Let somebody else.
[33:56] Speaker 2: I think the mistake was Al Horford.
[33:59] Speaker 1: You got rid of Klay Thompson for a Virginia. And
[34:01] Speaker 1: then now you got Fizinski on the bench. What does
[34:04] Speaker 1: Dean Kerr do? Dean Kerr loved Fizinski for a minute.
[34:08] Speaker 3: So now you got Youngfellow over to Quimpo. Now you
[34:10] Speaker 3: got to play Kaminga, right? So now you don't have
[34:12] Speaker 3: that out for Al Horford. I just think bringing Al
[34:15] Speaker 3: Horford in was.
[34:18] Speaker 3: But to what his point is, right? What I think he's...
[34:24] Speaker 3: Is if I'm Kaminga, right? I went through all that
[34:27] Speaker 3: shit last year. The year before that, All this shit
[34:30] Speaker 3: over the summer, not getting signed, don't know what's going
[34:33] Speaker 3: to happen, right? Getting bent, start, getting bent, all this
[34:37] Speaker 3: rollercoaster of emotions and shit with dealing with Steve Kerr, right?
[34:41] Speaker 2: And I'm looking at my skill set.
[34:44] Speaker 3: And I think I'm fucking, like, I know what Draymond
[34:46] Speaker 3: does for our team, but I'm looking at what I do, like.
[34:50] Speaker 2: Shit, I can do that.
[34:52] Speaker 1: Like, you give me that opportunity that they give him
[34:54] Speaker 1: without fucking me.
[34:55] Speaker 2: He's thinking that, you know what I'm saying? It's hard
[34:58] Speaker 2: not to.
[35:00] Speaker 1: When you're looking at the stat sheet, this motherfucker got like, oh, man, really?
[35:06] Speaker 1: And he's thinking, oh, this motherfucker don't want to play?
[35:09] Speaker 1: But he can't come out and say that.
[35:12] Speaker 2: I know we want him to.
[35:13] Speaker 3: That's y'all problem right there.
[35:16] Speaker 2: That's y'all problem.
[35:18] Speaker 3: I just seen the interview of my coach and Etan
[35:23] Speaker 3: Thomas complaining about.
[35:29] Speaker 3: The general manager telling me that.
[35:34] Speaker 2: Gilbert needs to focus on offense. He doesn't need to
[35:40] Speaker 2: use his energy on defense. That's what you guys are for.
[35:43] Speaker 2: And they got mad at that. Right?
[35:45] Speaker 3: My general manager was Ernie Grunfeld.
[35:49] Speaker 2: So the question is this. I'm going to chime in
[35:52] Speaker 2: as soon as you get done. I have a job
[35:54] Speaker 2: to do, right? I get paid for this job, right?
[35:58] Speaker 2: I do this job very well. Okay. You got a
[36:04] Speaker 2: job to do, right? Okay.
[36:06] Speaker 1: Are you doing your job?
[36:07] Speaker 2: Well. Huh? Well.
[36:09] Speaker 1: You doing your job well?
[36:10] Speaker 2: Well. Okay.
[36:11] Speaker 3: Because when I'm talking to you, I'm looking at you
[36:15] Speaker 3: ain't doing your job.
[36:16] Speaker 2: And what is that? Huh? What is it?
[36:18] Speaker 1: On the shots that I'm getting. On the shots that
[36:21] Speaker 1: I'm getting. 15, 6, don't turn the ball over. All
[36:24] Speaker 1: the things that I'm doing well, I'm doing. But that's
[36:26] Speaker 1: your job. Your job is to goddamn and do this.
[36:28] Speaker 1: You ain't doing this. What are you talking about? I'm
[36:30] Speaker 1: talking about my five.
[36:31] Speaker 3: 5-5, I'm doing that. My six fouls, I'm doing that.
[36:36] Speaker 3: Clothesline to somebody, I'm doing that.
[36:38] Speaker 1: But the other guy averaging 15. The guy they fucking
[36:41] Speaker 1: with averaging 15. I don't know if I think it's him.
[36:43] Speaker 2: For some reason, I don't think Pazinski is....
[36:51] Speaker 3: Is doing what they thought he was doing.
[36:54] Speaker 2: Of course not. We all think that. Like, 11, 11
[36:57] Speaker 2: and 9.
[36:57] Speaker 3: I traded Klay Thompson for this is the problem.
[37:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, we all think that. You know what I mean?
[37:02] Speaker 2: So it seems like.
[37:02] Speaker 3: That's more of my issue. I think the issue is, right?
[37:06] Speaker 3: Kaminga is just one of those guys they get to
[37:08] Speaker 3: blame easier.
[37:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they go smaller. Because he did it before. Like, oh, who? Oh, hey.
[37:13] Speaker 2: Because they did Pazinzi earlier.
[37:15] Speaker 1: They switched him out.
[37:16] Speaker 2: Like, oh, he didn't get the fuck on out. But.
[37:19] Speaker 3: So you said the GM came and said that shit, right?
[37:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[37:23] Speaker 3: I played with a prolific scorer as well.
[37:25] Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
[37:26] Speaker 3: And I wish a motherfucker would have came in here
[37:29] Speaker 3: and said, let that man just focus on offense.
[37:33] Speaker 2: Played with two of them, actually. We ain't a team. Hey, listen.
[37:36] Speaker 1: That is a part of the team, though. Listen, played
[37:39] Speaker 1: with two of them at one, on one team together.
[37:41] Speaker 2: Uh-huh. We can do that now.
[37:44] Speaker 3: And I wish a motherfucker would have ever came in
[37:46] Speaker 3: and talked about, listen, let them focus on offense and
[37:48] Speaker 3: y'all got.
[37:49] Speaker 2: Y'all carry, y'all carry they weight. Carry they bag.
[37:52] Speaker 1: Carry they bag.
[37:52] Speaker 2: Nigga, boy. It's a team. Cool. You need a guy
[37:55] Speaker 2: that go.
[37:56] Speaker 3: If you don't get your ass down that key to
[37:59] Speaker 3: stop these motherfuckers, I'll let them go so you can
[38:02] Speaker 3: get your blocks.
[38:03] Speaker 2: I think that was that. I think that was that.
[38:05] Speaker 1: We all said, the thing is, we don't need to
[38:08] Speaker 1: hear that. We all know we're getting all the shots as.
[38:10] Speaker 2: Is, right? We know where the ball going.
[38:12] Speaker 1: We know, listen, we looked, listen, we in game 47.
[38:17] Speaker 1: We didn't look down every single game that was played.
[38:20] Speaker 1: You took the most shots. We know that already. I
[38:24] Speaker 1: knew that on the team. We knew Melo was going
[38:26] Speaker 1: to take the most shots. It wasn't a fucking question.
[38:29] Speaker 1: But for you to come in there and be like, yo,
[38:31] Speaker 1: let 15 focus on offense only. Man, if you, but, y'all, boy, listen.
[38:36] Speaker 1: It would've took all them niggas to hold me back
[38:38] Speaker 1: in that motherfucker gym would've came in and said some
[38:39] Speaker 1: shit like that.
[38:40] Speaker 2: Now, think about that. Right. If he say that to
[38:43] Speaker 2: the coach. Yeah.
[38:45] Speaker 3: When they're talking about getting better at defense as a team.
[38:48] Speaker 3: And he says, let him focus on score. What you
[38:50] Speaker 3: think he was telling me? Hey, you had two fouls.
[38:55] Speaker 3: They had to serve you out. Hey, try not to
[38:59] Speaker 3: get in foul trouble, so you got to stay in.
[39:01] Speaker 2: See, that's a different conversation. You know what I mean?
[39:03] Speaker 2: What conversation do you think I'm having at the Boston? No,
[39:05] Speaker 2: that's a different conversation. That's not talking. What I'm saying is.
[39:08] Speaker 2: They had the conversation with me. Like, listen, can't pick
[39:11] Speaker 2: up too early, right? Listen, so. Yeah. I get that. Listen,
[39:15] Speaker 2: try to stay out of fire.
[39:16] Speaker 1: That's a different conversation than saying, let this motherfucker focus
[39:21] Speaker 1: on offense.
[39:23] Speaker 2: And y'all carry his bag. You only can think about offense.
[39:26] Speaker 2: You're an offensive bag. You have to carry his weight.
[39:29] Speaker 2: You don't play defense. No, I play defense. But he
[39:32] Speaker 2: realized I was a better scorer. That wouldn't have worked
[39:34] Speaker 2: on him because we already know who's taking all the shots.
[39:36] Speaker 2: It's not a question. For sure.
[39:38] Speaker 1: Y'all mad at me because I was.
[39:39] Speaker 2: When you look at the roster. So this is what.
[39:43] Speaker 1: I told people from day one, right?
[39:45] Speaker 2: When I got to Denver.
[39:47] Speaker 3: I could have easily came to that motherfucker day one
[39:49] Speaker 3: and demanded, listen, I need 20 shots a night. Day one,
[39:55] Speaker 3: I could have demanded, listen, I need 20 a night.
[39:58] Speaker 3: And what that would have did to Youngfella.
[40:03] Speaker 2: He was old. He was there before. No, he was
[40:06] Speaker 2: in his second year.
[40:10] Speaker 1: Right?
[40:11] Speaker 3: I could have came in and demanded, listen, I need 25,
[40:13] Speaker 3: 25 a night.
[40:13] Speaker 2: Touches.
[40:18] Speaker 1: Then what? But then what does that do to him?
[40:23] Speaker 2: They would have looked at your ass and said, all right, man.
[40:26] Speaker 3: No.
[40:27] Speaker 2: Are you serious? No. Highest paid on the list. No,
[40:29] Speaker 2: don't forget. Listen, we're talking about 2004, Nick.
[40:32] Speaker 1: I know, but that man just came from averaging 20-something.
[40:36] Speaker 2: He's just off his rookie year. But that rookie year.
[40:38] Speaker 1: They brought, listen, I was the top free agent that came.
[40:41] Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted, Nick. We're talking about then. We
[40:44] Speaker 1: ain't talking about the Kenyan. I told you yesterday. The
[40:47] Speaker 1: Kenyan that showed up to the Clippers was. I'm not.
[40:49] Speaker 2: I was warned, Nick. I was warned. I know who
[40:51] Speaker 2: Kenyan is, fool. I was warned.
[40:53] Speaker 1: I'm talking about the nigga that did free agent.
[40:55] Speaker 2: And he was in his second year, dog.
[40:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, but that rookie season was special.
[41:00] Speaker 2: It was.
[41:00] Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from it.
[41:03] Speaker 2: Let's keep it on commando, man. But I'm just saying, though.
[41:07] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[41:08] Speaker 3: The point is, when you're working and you're doing certain things.
[41:14] Speaker 1: But we've been talking about this. Motherfucker carrying people back. No,
[41:18] Speaker 1: we're not doing that.
[41:19] Speaker 2: But I'm going to show this, and we're going to
[41:20] Speaker 2: do that. But what I'm saying is, don't get mad
[41:22] Speaker 2: at me for him telling you that.
[41:24] Speaker 3: Because the coach said this, but his boss said this.
[41:27] Speaker 1: So I got a problem with the people that were
[41:29] Speaker 1: laying the message.
[41:30] Speaker 3: Like, yo, I got to make these passes. And, you know,
[41:33] Speaker 3: I get the 10 assists.
[41:34] Speaker 2: He's like, 10 assists? Oh, relax. Yeah. Just score.
[41:38] Speaker 1: See, that's not a winning organization. We're not playing winning basketball.
[41:43] Speaker 2: That's crazy.
[41:43] Speaker 1: We're not playing winning basketball, man.
[41:46] Speaker 2: I had staff in the finals. No, we're talking about this.
[41:48] Speaker 2: The Warriors are a winning organization. How they hide, how
[41:50] Speaker 2: they hide, like you said, how they hide. Yeah, it's
[41:52] Speaker 2: bad basketball, man.
[41:53] Speaker 4: Like how you said, how they said, yo, don't, Kenya,
[41:55] Speaker 4: don't come out here and go get some fouls because, nigga,
[41:57] Speaker 4: we need you.
[41:57] Speaker 2: On the floor. To win the game. We need you
[42:00] Speaker 2: to win the game. Right, so don't get in foul trouble.
[42:02] Speaker 2: He's our defensive captain. They need him on the floor.
[42:04] Speaker 2: They need Kaminga on the floor. Kaminga's mine, dude.
[42:08] Speaker 1: They need me as fucking well because I average more
[42:11] Speaker 1: points than this dude.
[42:11] Speaker 3: I'm more offensively gifted. I do all these things better.
[42:14] Speaker 3: Of course we still need him, but in his mind, like,
[42:17] Speaker 3: look at that stat sheet. This motherfucker got six points.
[42:19] Speaker 2: Why they can't just be on the court together? I
[42:21] Speaker 2: think they can coexist. They can't.
[42:24] Speaker 1: They can't coexist because somebody's used to being in the backpack.
[42:28] Speaker 1: Everybody else used to have their own backpack. The nigga's
[42:31] Speaker 1: comfortable in the backpack. Last night was a backpack night.
[42:35] Speaker 1: Last night was a backpack night. Hey, get on my back.
[42:38] Speaker 2: I got y'all. Remember? It feels good, don't it?
[42:42] Speaker 1: That's what got him punched.
[42:44] Speaker 2: Yeah. See, Kameka, he's like, look, you come punch me,
[42:46] Speaker 2: I'm going to punch back. He's seen that punch. I'm
[42:48] Speaker 2: just saying. Kameka's like, I'll punch back. Cool, whatever.
[42:52] Speaker 1: But look, Dre feel comfortable in the backpack. This feels
[42:55] Speaker 1: like old times. This feels like, this feels good.
[42:58] Speaker 2: They stuck in the back.
[42:59] Speaker 1: Man, now he one point be like, look, he don't
[43:01] Speaker 1: want to get in the backpack. He don't want to
[43:03] Speaker 1: get in the backpack. Y'all niggas just get in the backpack.
[43:07] Speaker 1: It's comfortable in here. Jimmy jumped in the backpack. Jimmy
[43:09] Speaker 1: came in the backpack. With a pillow.
[43:11] Speaker 2: With a pillow. Hopped on his back. Scoot over, Draymond.
[43:15] Speaker 2: Scoot over, nigga. Scoot over. He was donkey. He wouldn't leave.
[43:19] Speaker 2: It's straight. And then go get a bob done and
[43:23] Speaker 2: all kinds of shit. Dress up just for the backpack.
[43:26] Speaker 2: What are we doing? We talking Uber or not? I
[43:29] Speaker 2: just want niggas to perform, bro.
[43:31] Speaker 1: It ain't nothing personal, but the young fellas ain't doing
[43:33] Speaker 1: nothing but showing up playing hard. Dean Kerr trying to
[43:36] Speaker 1: cover their ass because you got to blame somebody except
[43:40] Speaker 1: for him.
[43:40] Speaker 2: He's not going to take the blame. It's only Kaminga.
[43:43] Speaker 2: Brandon do it. Because you're stars, you don't say nothing
[43:47] Speaker 2: to them. Like, they don't get nothing to blame. Who?
[43:50] Speaker 2: Like the... Who? What did you blame Draymond for? Jimmy Steph, Draymond.
[43:57] Speaker 1: Let's exclude Draymond. Draymond does his production and his work
[44:02] Speaker 1: for the team.
[44:03] Speaker 2: It ain't points. No, it ain't points. You need him
[44:05] Speaker 2: on the floor, right? I know.
[44:07] Speaker 1: If Draymond's on the floor, he's going to be productive
[44:09] Speaker 1: in the way that he is productive for his team.
[44:11] Speaker 2: Let's... Period. Period.
[44:14] Speaker 1: The other guys who.
[44:18] Speaker 8: They do the good cop, bad cop all the time,
[44:20] Speaker 8: but now it's two people doing bad cop. Jimmy and
[44:22] Speaker 8: Draymond just coming.
[44:24] Speaker 2: At the time. Bad cop, bad cop. You see Steph
[44:27] Speaker 2: trying to be the nice guy, the mediator. I ain't
[44:29] Speaker 2: as nice as boss. I mean, one thing about the Warriors.
[44:33] Speaker 1: But one.
[44:35] Speaker 2: Thing about the Warriors, you know they can't flip the switch, though.
[44:37] Speaker 2: What switch? What switch? Thanks. Mr. B. They can't flick
[44:41] Speaker 2: a switch, but will they flip the switch? We just can't.
[44:44] Speaker 2: They can't. No, you can't. Listen, man. Without early missed games,
[44:48] Speaker 2: that's why they lost. I know, but I'm just saying,
[44:51] Speaker 2: they can always flip the switch. They can always get
[44:53] Speaker 2: back to winning. Steph was gone. Best player. Okay. Hall
[44:56] Speaker 2: of Famer. Without them. Is there anybody else on the
[45:02] Speaker 2: team that's in that category? No. So if he's off
[45:04] Speaker 2: the court, Lost. Lost. If you played the Wizards, you win. Okay?
[45:11] Speaker 2: We get it. He comes back. You win. So he
[45:16] Speaker 2: missed games. They lost. He's back. Win is going to happen.
[45:19] Speaker 3: Just because you sub somebody out, you sub somebody out,
[45:24] Speaker 3: and you start winning because Steph is here now, doesn't
[45:27] Speaker 3: mean your idea worked. It's not Kaminga coming in and out.
[45:31] Speaker 3: The guy who does all the work is back now.
[45:36] Speaker 2: So it don't matter who you put on the lineup.
[45:38] Speaker 2: He's doing what he's going to do. But they having issues.
[45:40] Speaker 2: They talking about it. And then. They talking about the
[45:43] Speaker 2: issues on the win. But wait. Steph just got back.
[45:46] Speaker 2: But wait. So all this losing was when he wasn't here.
[45:49] Speaker 2: There's more. They just got beat.
[45:51] Speaker 1: They got smacked by the Thunder Tuesday with Steph back
[45:53] Speaker 1: in the lineup.
[45:53] Speaker 2: It was his first game back. It was his first
[45:54] Speaker 2: game back.
[45:55] Speaker 1: If Kaminga wasn't the problem, guess what wouldn't have happened?
[45:58] Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been moved to the bench.
[46:01] Speaker 1: So all that press conference shit was about on a win. Steve,
[46:05] Speaker 1: what you want us to say? Steve, what should we
[46:09] Speaker 1: say to the... Hey, you know what to say. It
[46:12] Speaker 1: ain't me, it ain't you, it ain't you, Jimmy. All
[46:14] Speaker 1: these damn Drake subliminal shots. Why would you move this
[46:18] Speaker 1: dude to the bench and then send shots?
[46:21] Speaker 2: Not say no name. Like you said, Drake. Drake? Is
[46:24] Speaker 2: it the Braids? Drake? Is it the Braids? When was this?
[46:31] Speaker 2: Tuesday night, they lost to Thunder by 24.
[46:32] Speaker 3: Okay.
[46:34] Speaker 1: The next game, Kaminga's on the mend. Tuesday night. So
[46:39] Speaker 1: we played that clip at the top of this segment.
[46:41] Speaker 1: Steph had 11 points. Steph had 11 points.
[46:43] Speaker 2: Steph just got back off of missing, what, three games?
[46:49] Speaker 3: Without Steph or with Steph just coming back, what was
[46:52] Speaker 3: they supposed to lose by?
[46:54] Speaker 2: 15, 20? To the Thunder?
[46:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, Thunder played very well. Supposed to win the game.
[46:59] Speaker 1: Not supposed to lose. To the Thunder? Supposed to win.
[47:03] Speaker 1: Every game, you go out and try to win. You know,
[47:05] Speaker 1: you say, oh, we're not going to win. What they
[47:06] Speaker 1: got Jimmy for? Is Jimmy not an all-star?
[47:08] Speaker 2: Okay, listen, listen, listen. Is Jimmy not an all-star? What
[47:11] Speaker 2: was they supposed to lose by? Is Jimmy an all-star
[47:13] Speaker 2: or not? They were supposed to lose.
[47:14] Speaker 3: By 15 or 20 points to that team anyway.
[47:17] Speaker 2: But they lost by 24.
[47:18] Speaker 3: So you lose by the number your ass was supposed
[47:21] Speaker 3: to lose by, and then you want to blame somebody
[47:24] Speaker 3: for getting your ass beat. Against a team you was
[47:27] Speaker 3: going to get your ass beat against.
[47:28] Speaker 2: But six straight road losses at that point. And how
[47:31] Speaker 2: many did Steph play in? Okay. Does it matter? It
[47:35] Speaker 2: does matter. Stop coming at me. Because he just lost
[47:37] Speaker 2: in that game. 11 points. He just got back. It
[47:40] Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're talking about him getting back or not.
[47:43] Speaker 2: They both had like six, seven points. Who did they
[47:45] Speaker 2: play when they came back? Thunder. When he first came back.
[47:49] Speaker 2: Thunder and Spurs on back-to-back. You ain't even, I would
[47:53] Speaker 2: have said that.
[47:53] Speaker 3: But that's the thing, you're trying to blame somebody because
[47:56] Speaker 3: you're losing to a team you just lost to.
[47:58] Speaker 2: Fucking wing defenders out there?
[48:00] Speaker 3: No.
[48:00] Speaker 5: Let's just focus, talk about the other side, talk about
[48:04] Speaker 5: the Spurs. So after a shaky pair of games last
[48:06] Speaker 5: week and back-to-back losses to the Suns and Lakers. It
[48:10] Speaker 5: appeared teams were starting to figure out how to slow
[48:12] Speaker 5: down Wimby, but the French big man has gotten his
[48:15] Speaker 5: game back on track with the Spurs winning three of
[48:17] Speaker 5: their last four games, including a record-setting performance against the
[48:21] Speaker 5: Bulls Monday night. Can we, we take a look at
[48:23] Speaker 5: those highlights, please, from the Spurs-Bulls game on Monday? If
[48:26] Speaker 5: y'all don't mind, just a little Wimby appreciation. Wimby's back
[48:30] Speaker 5: looking like an alien. He had 38 points, 12 rebounds,
[48:32] Speaker 5: five assists, and five blocks, 11 and 19 from the field,
[48:34] Speaker 5: six and nine from three.
[48:36] Speaker 1: It was another Wimby-Gammy game. that he added to his resume.
[48:40] Speaker 5: Now the first player in NBA history with 35-plus points,
[48:43] Speaker 5: 10-plus rebounds, 5-plus assists, 5-plus threes, and 5-plus blocks in
[48:46] Speaker 5: the game. I know y'all hate stats, but the stats
[48:49] Speaker 5: are the stats. De'Aaron Fox also had 21 and 5
[48:51] Speaker 5: assists in his second game back. Stephon Castle, 19 points,
[48:54] Speaker 5: 11 dimes. The Spurs came through and handed the Bulls
[49:00] Speaker 5: their first home loss of the season. Again, this game
[49:02] Speaker 5: was on Monday. They were back in the crib Wednesday
[49:04] Speaker 5: getting beat by the Warriors. when we follow up this
[49:08] Speaker 5: performance against the Bulls with that third, 1-15-10. Let's watch
[49:10] Speaker 5: it though.
[49:11] Speaker 2: Feels good to be back. Waving everybody off. 7-5. Look
[49:19] Speaker 2: at that. I love that walk. Yeah, that's some big shit.
[49:25] Speaker 5: That is what it is. Like I said, Spurs handed
[49:27] Speaker 5: the Bulls their first home loss of the season. When
[49:29] Speaker 5: we followed up this game, of course, with the 31-15-10.
[49:33] Speaker 5: Triple-double in the loss of the Warriors. So in his
[49:35] Speaker 5: last four games, Wimby's averaging 27 points, 13 rebounds, six assists,
[49:39] Speaker 5: three blocks, 50, 41, 100 shooting splits.
[49:44] Speaker 1: That's nice.
[49:46] Speaker 2: Good to see Wimby getting his groove back. How many
[49:48] Speaker 2: games did you say? Four. That's fucking nice. Not enough
[49:52] Speaker 2: of a sample size?
[49:53] Speaker 3: I'm saying they only played 12. So, yeah, I just, no,
[49:59] Speaker 3: he's playing great. I'm just, I just wanted to, I
[50:01] Speaker 3: thought he was.
[50:03] Speaker 2: Nice playing, great. It's good to see you.
[50:04] Speaker 1: Had the back-to-back loss of the Suns and Lakers last week.
[50:07] Speaker 1: We were all in the arena.
[50:07] Speaker 5: Y'all were drawing up plays, shooting jumpers from various portions
[50:11] Speaker 5: of the couch.
[50:11] Speaker 2: Good to see D-Fox back. I think that's helping him
[50:13] Speaker 2: a lot. That helped him, for sure. And still just
[50:17] Speaker 2: doing his thing. I think we talked about him earlier
[50:19] Speaker 2: in the week.
[50:20] Speaker 1: That's exactly what we talked about, right? D-Fox coming in
[50:23] Speaker 1: and then everything changing. Making sure he can get to
[50:26] Speaker 1: his spots. Open the floor up.
[50:30] Speaker 5: D-Fox also up and out Stephon Castle. Castle, I think,
[50:32] Speaker 5: was averaging six assists, five turnovers prior to D-Fox coming.
[50:35] Speaker 5: Now he's averaging 11 assists and just 1.7 turnovers in
[50:39] Speaker 5: the three games they played together.
[50:40] Speaker 2: One of those three. Fox moving around. Say it again.
[50:46] Speaker 3: He's averaging less turnovers.
[50:47] Speaker 2: Who is?
[50:48] Speaker 5: Castle is averaging six assists, five turnovers without D-Aaron Fox
[50:51] Speaker 5: in the last three games together. Castle is averaging 11
[50:54] Speaker 5: assists and just 1.7 turnovers.
[50:57] Speaker 2: And what is Fox averaging?
[50:58] Speaker 5: Box numbers dipped a little bit because of that Warriors game,
[51:00] Speaker 5: but the first two games he came back, it was 23-4.
[51:02] Speaker 2: Not the points, the assists and turnovers. Just four assists.
[51:06] Speaker 2: Four what? Yep. Four assists and four turnovers. Which one?
[51:10] Speaker 1: Let me pull it up.
[51:13] Speaker 3: If he was averaging five and did now, I relieve him.
[51:16] Speaker 3: Am I inheriting it?
[51:19] Speaker 2: Hmm? The assists are still there, or the turnovers. So
[51:22] Speaker 2: in three games, he's averaging four assists. And? And. Uh-huh.
[51:28] Speaker 2: Is he smiling? In five turnovers. In five turnovers.
[51:30] Speaker 3: Okay, so I just took the turnovers from you and
[51:34] Speaker 3: just put it on myself because I'm the playmaker now.
[51:36] Speaker 3: Because he's a true point guard.
[51:38] Speaker 1: And then Castle went from six assists to 11 points.
[51:41] Speaker 1: Because he's a slasher. Yeah, but I'm just saying. He's
[51:43] Speaker 1: at his true position. He's like a Jimmy Butler with
[51:46] Speaker 1: the bulls. Yeah, he likes to pass and slash. He
[51:50] Speaker 1: can't really shoot like that, so he gets open spots.
[51:52] Speaker 1: He can find Wimby, find the corner guys. De'Aaron Fox
[51:56] Speaker 1: is more focused on getting to the rim.
[51:57] Speaker 2: Getting his bucket.
[51:58] Speaker 3: He will turn that bitch over just like every other
[52:00] Speaker 3: point guard and just try to score.
[52:09] Speaker 2: You ain't got nothing to say?
[52:12] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying. The question was about wimping. Four assists,
[52:16] Speaker 1: five turnovers. That's a good thing, bad thing?
[52:18] Speaker 2: I don't know. Four assists, five turnovers? Sounds good. Are
[52:22] Speaker 2: we trying to say.
[52:23] Speaker 1: I remember when people were saying Fox needed to move
[52:26] Speaker 1: around and lead.
[52:27] Speaker 2: Four assists, five turnovers is what he's averaging. But also,
[52:32] Speaker 2: four assists. For three games? But also 19 points. Four assists.
[52:36] Speaker 3: 19 points.
[52:36] Speaker 2: But he been out for a minute. Five turnovers.
[52:38] Speaker 3: He average 19 still. No, no, what I'm saying is
[52:42] Speaker 3: he's not doing nothing different than the other person was doing.
[52:44] Speaker 3: The other person was actually having a better ratio at point.
[52:50] Speaker 3: But now this other person has nearly doubled their assists.
[52:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. He's looking. The problem is.
[52:58] Speaker 3: When we had one bad game and then we.
[53:01] Speaker 2: Try to blow it up like he's figured out. That's
[53:03] Speaker 2: the problem.
[53:04] Speaker 3: Two underperforming games. Two underperforming games. So the amazing, amazing
[53:07] Speaker 3: games that he was having. And then he had two
[53:10] Speaker 3: welcome back to earth games. And now he's back in Mars.
[53:14] Speaker 3: That's what this is. Trying to make it seem like
[53:18] Speaker 3: he's good. They figured him out. They locked him down.
[53:21] Speaker 1: We didn't make it seem like we just merely asked
[53:23] Speaker 1: the question. That's why there's a question mark on it.
[53:25] Speaker 2: It was not a statement.
[53:26] Speaker 1: We actually broke the shit down that when Fox comes back,
[53:30] Speaker 1: it's going to open up the place and they're going
[53:32] Speaker 1: to figure out how to adjust.
[53:34] Speaker 2: And they did.
[53:35] Speaker 1: Wasn't no down to earth nothing. It was, Wimby, look,
[53:38] Speaker 1: we turning the ball over because we're trying to force
[53:40] Speaker 1: this shit. Let's find out what they're doing. Let's adjust.
[53:46] Speaker 1: Here's the adjustment.
[53:47] Speaker 2: AD Fox, you see, they got to respect you now.
[53:51] Speaker 2: At the point.
[53:52] Speaker 1: Castle, they got to respect you at the shooting guard,
[53:54] Speaker 1: not the point. It's a big difference. When we talking who?
[53:59] Speaker 1: We watching the games. Shit look different. It ain't the same.
[54:02] Speaker 1: It ain't crowded. They not sitting in there. They can't
[54:05] Speaker 1: run the old school defense the way they had planned
[54:08] Speaker 1: because now we.
[54:09] Speaker 2: Got different options. I'm glad all that Fox hate has
[54:15] Speaker 2: put to rest right now. That's what I'm glad about.
[54:19] Speaker 3: Who was hating on him?
[54:21] Speaker 1: Everybody was just saying Star Harper and all that. They
[54:23] Speaker 1: don't need him. Star who?
[54:25] Speaker 2: Harper. They got Harper dealing with it in the beginning.
[54:28] Speaker 2: They got Fox dealing with it all around.
[54:29] Speaker 9: Trade him. I'm so confused here. What I'm hearing is
[54:39] Speaker 9: one thing.
[54:42] Speaker 3: I'm hearing, okay, Fox came in, and I think I'm
[54:45] Speaker 3: hearing he has.
[54:47] Speaker 2: 20 assists, three turnovers.
[54:52] Speaker 3: He's getting the ball, flinging it, and everybody's in heightened.
[54:57] Speaker 2: What I'm looking at.
[54:58] Speaker 10: Is 13 assists, 14 turnovers, which means the ball is
[55:08] Speaker 10: just flinging no different than it was before.
[55:12] Speaker 3: Just out there trying to make shit happen. Force feed
[55:15] Speaker 3: the guy.
[55:15] Speaker 2: No different than the last person that did it. Very different.
[55:19] Speaker 2: It's very different. It's very different.
[55:23] Speaker 1: It's a box.
[55:23] Speaker 2: But it's a better score.
[55:24] Speaker 1: If you're watching, if you're just going to do public
[55:26] Speaker 1: opinion watching, if you're just going to watch the game
[55:29] Speaker 1: and say, look at the box score.
[55:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:31] Speaker 3: Let's just say off the box score.
[55:32] Speaker 2: Let's be lazy. Let's not watch the game.
[55:35] Speaker 3: Dem D Aaron Fox turnovers are not just slinging the
[55:37] Speaker 3: ball around.
[55:38] Speaker 2: He's being aggressive. He's being the point guard.
[55:42] Speaker 3: He's going to be a combo guy.
[55:46] Speaker 2: He's trying to get to his spots. He's doing his thing.
[55:48] Speaker 2: Turning the ball over. The same thing Castle was doing.
[55:51] Speaker 2: Turning the ball over. But you got to respect the box.
[55:53] Speaker 1: Now Castle's in a different position where I'm not going
[55:56] Speaker 1: to turn the ball over like that because I'm playing
[55:59] Speaker 1: in my position where I get clean dishes.
[56:02] Speaker 2: Boom, boom. 34 assists and five turnovers in that same
[56:05] Speaker 2: three-game sample. 34 assists. So it sounds.
[56:09] Speaker 3: I can see if it sounded like this.
[56:12] Speaker 2: My real point guard... Wait, what are we trying to say?
[56:15] Speaker 2: My real point guard came back, and I'm averaging.
[56:19] Speaker 3: And those same things, what again? But what are we saying?
[56:21] Speaker 3: 34 assists and what?
[56:22] Speaker 2: They were playing well.
[56:23] Speaker 3: It sounds like that's what Fox is supposed to be.
[56:26] Speaker 2: I have no idea. But it's not. You're doing the
[56:28] Speaker 2: same thing the last person did. But Wimby's back playing good.
[56:32] Speaker 1: Wimby's playing good because we have our guy who I
[56:35] Speaker 1: said he's going to create space for Wimby to have
[56:37] Speaker 1: better options.
[56:39] Speaker 2: But so, wait, hold on. So, wait, hold on. I
[56:43] Speaker 2: get it. Wait, hold on. So the Spurs are what
[56:44] Speaker 2: right now? What, 8-2?
[56:47] Speaker 4: 8-2 or 9-3 or whatever. So out of those first, what,
[56:51] Speaker 4: 12 games?
[56:52] Speaker 2: First or 8-3. Okay, so out of those games, what,
[56:54] Speaker 2: he had maybe two bad games, three bad games? Yes.
[56:57] Speaker 2: With me. No, two decent games. I mean, two bad games.
[57:00] Speaker 1: 30-40, 30-40, 30-40, and then you go to 20 and
[57:01] Speaker 1: then an 18-20.
[57:06] Speaker 2: It's a bad game and they figured you out. Oh,
[57:09] Speaker 2: that's what we're trying to say. Yeah.
[57:12] Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, 9, 19, 22,
[57:15] Speaker 3: and 18.
[57:16] Speaker 2: Y'all just don't listen. Okay. Okay. Nine points against the Suns,
[57:22] Speaker 2: 19 against the Suns.
[57:23] Speaker 1: But those wins and losses were back-to-back losses.
[57:26] Speaker 2: Two back-to-back. Which ones? Suns and Lakers. Suns and Lakers
[57:29] Speaker 2: had nine against the Suns.
[57:31] Speaker 1: Both of those were losses, and then they won Houston,
[57:35] Speaker 1: and then they won the next three games.
[57:37] Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on.
[57:39] Speaker 3: Because neither one of them teams have anybody to figure
[57:42] Speaker 3: shit out when it come to Wimby. He just fucking
[57:45] Speaker 3: played bad.
[57:46] Speaker 1: So let's fucking, let's not. They threw shit at him.
[57:49] Speaker 1: They threw shit at him. He hadn't seen before. They
[57:52] Speaker 1: threw shit at him that he hadn't seen before. Nobody
[57:56] Speaker 1: else was doing that shit.
[57:57] Speaker 3: You mean to tell him DeAndre went out there and
[57:59] Speaker 3: did anything with motherfucking Wimby?
[58:00] Speaker 2: I fucking doubt it. Front, switch, switch, front, front. He
[58:04] Speaker 2: played on the perimeter. He played on the perimeter. He
[58:06] Speaker 2: ain't changed a game. He ain't changed a game.
[58:08] Speaker 3: Because they changed the defense. They didn't keep the defense on.
[58:12] Speaker 3: Not everybody's going to adopt the same defense. I didn't
[58:14] Speaker 3: watch the games.
[58:15] Speaker 2: I watched it. We watched it. How about this? How
[58:19] Speaker 2: about this? I don't know. Start again. I'm just saying.
[58:21] Speaker 1: The two teams that he played the so-called bad games against?
[58:27] Speaker 1: So he had nine points and then 19 points. So
[58:29] Speaker 1: what was his other stats? Rebounds, blocks. Give me those, please.
[58:33] Speaker 1: One of y'all give me those.
[58:34] Speaker 2: Nine points, nine rebounds, two assists against the Suns. Hold on, y'all.
[58:37] Speaker 5: Nine points, nine rebounds, two assists against the Suns, 19 points,
[58:40] Speaker 5: eight rebounds.
[58:40] Speaker 2: Three assists.
[58:41] Speaker 3: How many blocks?
[58:42] Speaker 5: He had four blocks against the Suns, one block against
[58:44] Speaker 5: the Leafs.
[58:47] Speaker 2: So was the Lakers game here? Yeah. So he went out. No, no, no.
[58:52] Speaker 2: He don't go out. He was getting spaghetti. That's what
[58:54] Speaker 2: he was doing. He went out. We can't do that.
[58:59] Speaker 2: We've been doing it. We all go out. We all
[59:01] Speaker 2: go out. Niggas go to Miami. Niggas go to certain place.
[59:05] Speaker 2: Niggas don't play well. In the history of the game.
[59:07] Speaker 2: Niggas went to Toronto. Niggas went to Miami. go to places.
[59:10] Speaker 1: Niggas play bad. Niggas like, oh, he was in the
[59:12] Speaker 1: city last night. The commentators clearly said JJ has adopted
[59:18] Speaker 1: what the fucking Suns just did the last game. They
[59:22] Speaker 1: are now being successful making Wimby work. Since those two games,
[59:28] Speaker 1: hold on.
[59:30] Speaker 2: Four games since then. Those two games, how many games
[59:32] Speaker 2: have they played?
[59:32] Speaker 1: They played four games.
[59:33] Speaker 2: Hold on. How many games have they played since those
[59:35] Speaker 2: two games?
[59:35] Speaker 1: They've played four games. They're 3-1 in those four games.
[59:37] Speaker 2: And he is doing what? So the rest of the
[59:39] Speaker 2: league didn't adapt. No, they did not.
[59:41] Speaker 1: So why not? Because they don't.
[59:42] Speaker 2: He just played bad. 50-41, 100-2. Let's do what they did.
[59:48] Speaker 2: It'll seem to work. No, no, no. What happened was...
[59:50] Speaker 2: But you know San Antonio's going to make adjustments. No,
[59:53] Speaker 2: and that's what I said. The other team did.
[59:57] Speaker 1: Can you play what Wimby did?
[59:59] Speaker 2: Remember when he was playing, they did that shit.
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: He was trying to post up.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: Let's show what Wimby decided to do.
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: Play the video. He adjusted.
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: Show the video so we can see what Wimby did.
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: You remember him trying to post up and you wanted
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: to corral him and do all that shit.
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: Let's show what Wimby did. Show the motherfuckers. We are
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: showing what we did. Oh, Nick can't catch me. Sacre bleu.
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: Your mother pass is sitting out, cool. Bonjour. You don't
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: have to worry about that. We're talking about that offense. Volleyball.
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: Here we go. K-double me here, motherfuckers.
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: Open shot. Take the easy shot, the open shot, okay?
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: Don't help. Why would you throw that in my chest?
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: Got him, spinny. Okay, K-double here. Got him.
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: Lay bucket.
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: Bingo.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all want to do what again? Let me bring
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: this to the court. Oh, you're about to pick me up?
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: They're going to double in the post. They're going to
[1:00:58] Speaker 3: double me in the post.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: I know what to do now. I can do that.
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: I adjusted. I'm going to put him to sleep. I'm
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: going to put him to sleep. I'm going to put
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: him to sleep. Look, the first dribble was to put
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: the sleeper right here. Come double this. No, stay, stay, stay. No,
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: they're going to double.
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: They're going to double.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: That first dribble was to put you to sleep.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: Oh.
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: Au revoir. Ah, you can't double that up. Hey, do
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: y'all got the Suns footage? No.
[1:01:20] Speaker 1: Bring up the sun footage, y'all. Bring up the sun footage.
[1:01:23] Speaker 1: Let's compare that.
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: Let's debunk that. I don't think he wants that. Matter
[1:01:29] Speaker 3: of fact, look. Won't y'all just look into this? Won't
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: you just look into that? Won't you just look into
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: the light? We're going to forget about this whole thing, okay?
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: I know you hope. Okay? One, two, three. All right.
[1:01:47] Speaker 2: We're going to forget about that because this is just...
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: Are you going to make.
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: Y'all... You want to show the sun's highlight?
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Because if the sun's highlight don't look like...
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Because he just talk loud and move fast.
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: All that shit that work for these young kids that
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: ain't got no fucking brain.
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: We talking about... We talking hoop. Go crazy, man. That's
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: a completely different game. Completely. Completely.
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: The sun's this different shit. Spurs did different shit. This
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: is Wimby scoring in transition, my nigga. There wasn't no
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: fucking nothing on the post.
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Let's talk basketball. Here we go. Here
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: we go. I'm getting doubled in the post these two days.
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: So, I'm not going to... What's the adjustment?
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in the post. What's the adjustment?
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in the post. What's the adjustment?
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in the post. What's the adjustment?
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in the post. Hey, I
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: know this whole movement, bro. I mean, isn't that what
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: it is?
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: Like, if I post up and you double me and
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: that affected me, my adjustment is... Stay on the perimeter
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: and shake these dudes.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: What did that show? A quick shot. On the perimeter,
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: shake these dudes.
[1:02:58] Speaker 3: I'm not going to go in the post where they
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: can double me like it affected me.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: But you said, hey, Wimpy, when you're in the post,
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: turn and just look over these niggas. So you said
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: when you're in the post. What he do if they
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: doubled him in the post.
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:03:11] Speaker 3: So now the adjustment wasn't in the post at all.
[1:03:14] Speaker 3: For him, he adjusted by going back to the perimeter.
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: That's what he did.
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: And taking away the ability to get double.
[1:03:22] Speaker 2: Yes. Right? Yeah. When the double just turned.
[1:03:26] Speaker 3: No, I'm saying what he should do, if you're coming
[1:03:29] Speaker 3: turning face, if you're going to play in that area,
[1:03:32] Speaker 3: he decided to adjust.
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: And not play in that area. You haven't realized that.
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: Cooking with Larry. T-shirts in the description. Y'all go check
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: them out. Available at greatness.com, I hope. You can go
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[1:03:43] Speaker 1: I'll give you a double and be going left.
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: Warehouse 5. Shout out to Miguel. Shout out to Miguel.
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: He waved his finger all over them.
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: Whatever y'all talking about, man.
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: That boy just had two bad games. Two decent games.
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: Nine points is bad for him. That's a bad game. 19,
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: not a bad game. I'm not buying that J.J. Reddick
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: nor that fucking Phoenix Suns did anything to this man
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: other than he didn't play well.
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[1:05:17] Speaker 5: the purple and gold's biggest test of the season so
[1:05:19] Speaker 5: far against the defending champion Thunder, averaging a league-leading 37 points,
[1:05:23] Speaker 5: along with nine rebounds and nine dimes. So last week
[1:05:26] Speaker 5: on the show, Gil, you said Luka's had the better
[1:05:28] Speaker 5: career compared to SGA thus far.
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: You said we haven't. Before last year? Before last year,
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: he caught up. So they're equal now? I said he
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: caught up. They're equivalent. Oh, my goodness. Okay, they're equivalent.
[1:05:42] Speaker 5: Well, SGA must have seen the clip, and the Thunder
[1:05:44] Speaker 5: unloaded the clip on the Lake Show on the second
[1:05:46] Speaker 5: night of a back-to-back Wednesday. Let's take a look at
[1:05:49] Speaker 5: the highlights if we can, please. Game was over in
[1:05:52] Speaker 5: the first quarter as Thunder jumped out to a 12-point
[1:05:54] Speaker 5: lead and led by 32 at the half as the
[1:05:56] Speaker 5: Lakers struggled to find their rhythm. SGA finished with 30 points,
[1:06:00] Speaker 5: nine rebounds, five assists, and 30 minutes of action. 85th
[1:06:03] Speaker 5: straight regular season game, scoring 20 or more points. 11th
[1:06:07] Speaker 5: 30-point game this season, and he sat the fourth quarter
[1:06:09] Speaker 5: for the seventh time in 13 games this season. Luka
[1:06:13] Speaker 5: was playing with a heavy heart after the Mavs announced
[1:06:15] Speaker 5: the firing of Nico Harrison, the man who ruined his
[1:06:18] Speaker 5: dreams of playing his entire career in Dallas. Slovenian Jesus
[1:06:21] Speaker 5: had his worst game of the season, finishing with 19 points,
[1:06:24] Speaker 5: seven boards, and seven assists. Austin Reeves also had his
[1:06:27] Speaker 5: lowest scoring output this season, finishing with just 13 points,
[1:06:31] Speaker 5: along with three assists and five turnovers.
[1:06:34] Speaker 2: It was a hard one, look.
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: I mean, we watch this on playback. I think we
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: were in agreement that the narrative we want to push
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: is that J.J. Redick planning to see this team in
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: the playoffs didn't want to give up too much of
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: the Lakers playbook.
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: A little rope-a-dope. No, that was your narrative. It was,
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: but you agreed? No, I didn't. You said it was
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: a good narrative. No, it was. It was.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: If they played last night. Lakers did not play last night.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck this team was out here,
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: but shout out SGA doing his proverbial thug tits.
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: That right there. Is that Luka playing defense? Oh, that
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: little twist. Solid, solid effort. He got that nice little hit.
[1:07:12] Speaker 5: So, Lakers were held under 100 points for the first
[1:07:14] Speaker 5: time this season. OKC's 12-1 start, the best in franchise history. So,
[1:07:19] Speaker 5: as you know, Gil is a lover and advocate of
[1:07:21] Speaker 5: small market NBA teams. So, let's talk about the best
[1:07:24] Speaker 5: one in the league right now. Even without all NBA
[1:07:26] Speaker 5: and all defensive selection, Jalen Williams and Lou Dort, who
[1:07:29] Speaker 5: didn't play at that game, the Thunder have been dominant
[1:07:31] Speaker 5: to start this season, have the best defense, best net
[1:07:34] Speaker 5: rating in the league. set an NBA record with their
[1:07:37] Speaker 5: 12.9 point differential per game last season, and they're at
[1:07:40] Speaker 5: 15.5 so far this season. So as you gentlemen look
[1:07:44] Speaker 5: at this, Thunder Squad, 12-1, on pace, potentially.
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: Did you write this?
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, I write everything.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: You started putting net ratings and stuff like that? You
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: never talked like that before. I'm trying to expand my game. Okay. Interviewing.
[1:07:58] Speaker 1: Call my audition tape. Just put a little good tape
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: together out there. I'm over here enjoying the corporate side.
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. I can speak square tongue.
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you. It's better over here. These
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: big words you're using, net ratings. Sometimes you got to
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: square out, dude. All right. Disney, Gucci, love you for Christmas.
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: But when you look at this Thunder squad, what makes
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: this Thunder team so special? Everything.
[1:08:24] Speaker 3: I mean, when you're talking about, you know, winning programs,
[1:08:28] Speaker 3: winning situations, all the elements that it takes. Work ethic,
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: the love of the game, getting along together, everybody knowing
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: their roles, right? Everybody buying in to the same goal.
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: That's what this team seems to have done, especially at
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: an early age. And it seems like even right now,
[1:08:49] Speaker 3: they wasn't happy on how they won last year, right?
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: They won, but... to their standard, they don't think it
[1:08:57] Speaker 2: was good enough, and it seems.
[1:08:59] Speaker 3: Like they're coming back like, nah, we're about to double back.
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: And show y'all what we really are. Confident now. We
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: didn't whip your asses sufficiently.
[1:09:09] Speaker 3: Like I said, the biggest thing they had, they gained confidence, man.
[1:09:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, confidence.
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: To come out and have the same guys in the
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: locker room again. It's huge. Most rosters flip over. Adding guys,
[1:09:27] Speaker 3: they did a good job not doing that. So, yeah, man,
[1:09:31] Speaker 3: they're doing an excellent job at drafting. They're doing an
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: excellent job at developing and holding on to their original assets,
[1:09:40] Speaker 3: which is huge. Yeah, so, yeah, them starting the way
[1:09:43] Speaker 3: they did, I thought they would flirt with that 73-9.
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: They're going to pay to do it. So I think they, yeah. Yeah, man,
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: they playing. They don't know no better. They going out
[1:09:56] Speaker 3: having fun, competing. And they want to show people how
[1:10:01] Speaker 3: good they are. They want to beat everybody in the league.
[1:10:03] Speaker 3: So it's them beating people by average of almost 16
[1:10:07] Speaker 3: a night is not a fluke. They are that much
[1:10:11] Speaker 3: better than team. And they want to prove it. And
[1:10:14] Speaker 3: I think they on a mission to go back to back.
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. I think just.
[1:10:19] Speaker 4: having from like, you know, the first guy to 15 guys,
[1:10:24] Speaker 4: everybody being able to play two-way players. You know, the
[1:10:26] Speaker 4: fact that they're young, the fact that J-Dub isn't even
[1:10:29] Speaker 4: back yet. SGA, he doesn't even play fourth quarters like
[1:10:33] Speaker 4: that right now. So, and you know, I think the
[1:10:37] Speaker 4: oldest player is what, 27? Maybe like 27 or maybe,
[1:10:40] Speaker 4: or something like that. I mean, they're young though. So
[1:10:43] Speaker 4: just to see a young core like that stay together
[1:10:45] Speaker 4: and still hungry, I mean, you know, like, can't break
[1:10:50] Speaker 4: that record. I think they're going to be able to
[1:10:51] Speaker 4: break that record easy. And, like I said, man, they're
[1:10:54] Speaker 4: scary from 1 to 15. Alex Caruso, I believe, 31
[1:10:57] Speaker 4: years old. His bald head's still shiny.
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: So, yeah. Played with a chip on his shoulder in
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: that game.
[1:11:03] Speaker 8: Shade DM me and told me, watch tonight. I'm going
[1:11:05] Speaker 8: to show you all. Because he was watching that day
[1:11:07] Speaker 8: when he was saying, Luca, like, he was comparing all
[1:11:11] Speaker 8: the NBA teams and, like, It was like, fuck Shea type,
[1:11:17] Speaker 8: you know.
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: It took one year just to catch up. So he said,
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: watch tonight. Did you respond back? Did you heart the message? Yeah,
[1:11:29] Speaker 2: I seen it. I seen it.
[1:11:30] Speaker 8: It was an ass-whipping. It's just, there's no comparison to
[1:11:36] Speaker 8: who's like team, who's the best team, who's the best
[1:11:41] Speaker 8: player in the NBA right now, who's playing with the
[1:11:43] Speaker 8: most confidence, who Just playing on another level.
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: It's OKC, man. It's Shea.
[1:11:50] Speaker 8: There's nothing you can do that can stop that, man.
[1:11:52] Speaker 8: No double teams. Off night, he's still going to win.
[1:11:58] Speaker 8: On night, they winning by 50. You know, they just
[1:12:04] Speaker 8: play both sides. That's what you got to do. That's
[1:12:07] Speaker 8: what I want my Lakers to do. Like, the Lucas shit.
[1:12:11] Speaker 8: You seen when I just blew by him off of
[1:12:13] Speaker 8: just a one?
[1:12:13] Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that, no. They didn't play last night.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: That was not the lesson.
[1:12:19] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: I'm the same state.
[1:12:23] Speaker 3: No, no.
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: Don't think it's going to get any better on this side.
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: They didn't?
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: No.
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: What was they doing? Same thing LeBron was doing. Somewhere
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: in the D-League, G-League. South Bay Lakers. You ever see
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: your ass whooping so bad that you try to start
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: the game back over? Like, all right, y'all got this one.
[1:12:43] Speaker 3: Let's just run it back.
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: Run it back. Say 2K.
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: Let's run it back. All right, y'all got this. Let
[1:12:48] Speaker 3: me just run this back. Say 2K. That's how it started.
[1:12:52] Speaker 2: You just be like. But that team on paper. Just
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: read this back. This ain't even. Just look at the
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: teams on paper if you don't see them play. Who?
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: If you just look at it.
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: Oklahoma City better.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: On paper.
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: Oklahoma City better.
[1:13:05] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Don't look at them. You mean look
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: at them? Yes. On paper. The names. Without the team
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: last night. Without what for cause.
[1:13:14] Speaker 3: Any team got Vanderbilt on it, the other team better.
[1:13:18] Speaker 2: No, he's not in the starting line. Look at him.
[1:13:20] Speaker 2: There's 15 players on the roster. Jesus. Who are you?
[1:13:23] Speaker 1: There's 15 players on the roster.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: Jesus. You've been around us too much. You don't like Vando?
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: Just thinking of starting line. No, I mean like the name.
[1:13:34] Speaker 2: The name. Okay, if you look at the name. On paper.
[1:13:37] Speaker 2: We're going to be like, yeah, this is okay.
[1:13:38] Speaker 3: What the hell is this? Have you looked at the pictures?
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: You look at the picture, Lakers look like.
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: They're going to lose by 50 every night. Yeah, y'all
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: got four white boys. That's when you show up at
[1:13:52] Speaker 2: AAU Nationals. AAU Nationals, and you look at them. All
[1:13:57] Speaker 2: you see is the names.
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: What happened to our two mechs guys?
[1:14:02] Speaker 3: They come out for the warm-up line, you look down,
[1:14:03] Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, yeah, we're going to beat them
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: by 50.
[1:14:05] Speaker 2: What happened to our mech guy, though? That was the
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: best time at AAU. Come out there, motherfucker. Back doing
[1:14:10] Speaker 2: the shit out of y'all ass, though. You're supposed to
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: pay him 300. You're supposed to lose like this. I
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: know all too well.
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: Sean, you had something you wanted to add to this? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: I did. Just want to say shout out to the chat.
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: Throw them tombstones in there if you fuck with Larry.
[1:14:27] Speaker 1: Cooking today. I just want to big up OKC because
[1:14:32] Speaker 1: they got a new addition that's actually out there fucking
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: people up.
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: AJ Mitchell.
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: Out there doing shit that can kind of cover for
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: Williams being out. He's out there being a whole different anomaly.
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: You know, I do watch the games. Him and Case
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: and Wallace is really showing up, playing good team ball.
[1:14:52] Speaker 2: I think highest point per game increase from the previous
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: season to this season. He's playing well.
[1:14:56] Speaker 1: He looks like a season player that's really been waiting
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: for an opportunity to play.
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: Took a big advantage of it.
[1:15:05] Speaker 3: And just watching him play, the confidence that he has
[1:15:07] Speaker 3: is tremendous.
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: But at the same time, SGA had a point to prove.
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: The team got to, I mean, and I think his
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: leadership goes in there and is like, yeah, we see it,
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: bulletin board material. You see what they said? Y'all just
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: some corner boys, man. They don't think we can do
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: it again. What we doing?
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: Huh?
[1:15:29] Speaker 1: Hey, let's make sure they fans leaving, our fans leaving
[1:15:33] Speaker 1: by the fourth.
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: Every game. Luca, no Luca. Fuck Luca. Go get that
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: nigga a burrito.
[1:15:44] Speaker 1: Sit him down.
[1:15:45] Speaker 2: Tostado. What flavor burrito? Shrimp. Shrimp burrito.
[1:15:52] Speaker 1: That nigga a shrimp burrito with the juices in it.
[1:15:58] Speaker 1: The guacamole too.
[1:15:59] Speaker 2: That's how he was moving out there. I just don't think, man.
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: I know he does, but.
[1:16:13] Speaker 3: Sam Preston don't get enough credit, man, for what they're
[1:16:16] Speaker 3: doing in that front office. Like, to Brandon's point he
[1:16:19] Speaker 3: made early on before the show and what Rashad is saying, like,
[1:16:23] Speaker 3: to have guys that you can just plug in that's,
[1:16:27] Speaker 3: I ain't saying as good as Jalen Williams or good
[1:16:30] Speaker 3: as Lou Dort or good as, but they are very,
[1:16:35] Speaker 3: very capable of holding down the fort while them dudes
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: are out.
[1:16:39] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:16:39] Speaker 3: And that goes to doing your job at scouting, doing
[1:16:42] Speaker 3: your job at developing these guys, and them guys staying ready.
[1:16:48] Speaker 3: Shout out to the, that's an organizational thing. From the
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: GM them doing their job, to the coaching staff, holding
[1:16:56] Speaker 3: them guys accountable, to the player development guys, developing them guys,
[1:17:00] Speaker 3: keeping them guys sharp and on point. And them dudes, man,
[1:17:04] Speaker 3: showing up, like I said, they don't know no better,
[1:17:05] Speaker 3: they're young and they still hungry, man. And to get
[1:17:08] Speaker 3: your opportunity, When the mother deuce is out.
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: You got to say a little bit too.
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: No, I'm saying juice you up if you're in the
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: locker room and you like, we don't miss a beat.
[1:17:18] Speaker 2: Like, that makes Jalen be like, man, I can get
[1:17:20] Speaker 2: all the way right. What? Right?
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: Like, when it's other times when the dude's not playing
[1:17:23] Speaker 3: as well, they wouldn't play. 11-1 at this point, Jalen
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: would probably, if they were 6-5, he'll try to rush back.
[1:17:31] Speaker 3: But gives him confidence that he can get himself all
[1:17:34] Speaker 3: the way right. Knowing what Shea going to do, knowing
[1:17:37] Speaker 3: Hart's not going out at any given night, give you 28-14,
[1:17:40] Speaker 3: check and give you the same numbers at any given night,
[1:17:43] Speaker 3: and you're not missing a beat. Another kid, Jalen Williams,
[1:17:45] Speaker 3: the big Jalen Williams come off the bench, you know,
[1:17:48] Speaker 3: he's a different variety.
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: His shots.
[1:17:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, like them dudes, man, they've done an excellent job, man,
[1:17:53] Speaker 3: at putting that team together. And it is hard for
[1:17:56] Speaker 3: me to believe in the next two, three, four, five
[1:18:00] Speaker 3: years that they're not going to continuously, I ain't saying
[1:18:02] Speaker 3: win it, but be in a position to be continuously
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: making noise if they're able to hold on to that core.
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: Ain't this kind of what the Boston Celtics look like?
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: The year before they won it, coming into that year
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: they won it, it felt like And they beat motherfuckers
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: by 15, 20. They got it. They figured it out.
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Then he go down.
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: It's like, man, it's hard to repeat when you ain't
[1:18:26] Speaker 3: got the same type of energy, da, da, da, da.
[1:18:28] Speaker 2: But these guys, I feel a little bit younger.
[1:18:30] Speaker 3: But they sold the team.
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: The niggas won it. The niggas sold the team. Like,
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: motherfuckers jump ship. Like, Boston won the motherfucking championship. The
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: motherfuckers jump ship.
[1:18:40] Speaker 2: You're like, no, no, no.
[1:18:41] Speaker 3: For real. And then them being where they are, man,
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: the expectations to give always his point to where they play.
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: Play in Oklahoma, bro. They are the attraction. I know
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: it's a small market, but they are the attraction. However
[1:18:59] Speaker 3: many they see, they're selling out. No matter who's coming
[1:19:01] Speaker 3: to town, they coming to see the Oklahoma City Thunder play.
[1:19:05] Speaker 3: It ain't about who's coming in the building. And I
[1:19:07] Speaker 3: think that's a that's a blessing and a treat to
[1:19:11] Speaker 3: the fans. Knowing that their team is going to compete
[1:19:14] Speaker 3: no matter if guys are load managing and all this shit,
[1:19:17] Speaker 3: because you never know who's going to play when they
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: coming in town. So the fact that them guys and
[1:19:22] Speaker 3: your star shows up and plays, that's a treat. And
[1:19:26] Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm happy for that city.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: They give them guys confidence too. They all got confidence
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: when they play out there. Ain't nobody like really worried.
[1:19:34] Speaker 8: And that's, That's a talent to have a whole team
[1:19:40] Speaker 8: playing free like that.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: Like, nobody's really worried about if you make a mistake.
[1:19:46] Speaker 3: Like Indiana, like the two teams that just go out
[1:19:48] Speaker 3: there and just.
[1:19:49] Speaker 5: But we talked about it. The team loves each other.
[1:19:51] Speaker 5: It seems like there's no inner turmoil. I mean, we
[1:19:54] Speaker 5: talked about the Warriors.
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: Earlier in the show. You know, some people would be like, damn,
[1:19:57] Speaker 2: my spot might be took.
[1:19:58] Speaker 5: He's joking around after the game telling ESPN, I'm still
[1:20:01] Speaker 5: a basketball player.
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: Think about, like, even that, Jalen Williams. If Jalen Williams
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: is out for the whole year, like, just say, if
[1:20:06] Speaker 2: he's out. He's still winning. You say, okay.
[1:20:08] Speaker 3: They have enough to beat the rest of the NBA.
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's talk a little bit about it. It'll be
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: a little tougher. It'll be tougher. But go ahead.
[1:20:15] Speaker 1: I mean, just what y'all was talking about yesterday. You know,
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: I wasn't here. You know, small market shit. And, you know,
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: nobody's paying attention to it based on.
[1:20:26] Speaker 3: Shut up.
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like.
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, man, because we the media, and we can
[1:20:35] Speaker 1: put a light on this type of shit all the time.
[1:20:38] Speaker 3: Like, we can say, look at Shea. Look at Joker,
[1:20:41] Speaker 3: 55 and 12.
[1:20:43] Speaker 1: Like, that's not going under the radar for any hooper
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: that watch the game. Maybe motherfuckers who tune in to
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: see the highlights, and they only showing highlights of the
[1:20:52] Speaker 1: Lakers and Austin Reeves and them.
[1:20:54] Speaker 2: But when you talking about hoop, which I like to
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: talk about. I like to talk hoop.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: SGA ain't going underappreciated. Joker not going. Donovan Mitchell is
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: not going underappreciated.
[1:21:06] Speaker 3: A lot of the guys who are small market players
[1:21:09] Speaker 3: who play hard and they go out there and they
[1:21:11] Speaker 3: bust niggas' heads open every night, regardless if the national
[1:21:15] Speaker 3: media acknowledge them or not, it is what it is.
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: He talking about who?
[1:21:20] Speaker 5: Rashad, as you know, Gil Zarin at two days a week,
[1:21:22] Speaker 5: now Wednesday, Thursdays, actually did have the plan for small
[1:21:24] Speaker 5: market Tuesdays.
[1:21:26] Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we got canceled. Unfortunately, we had to cancel. We
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: got canceled.
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: We had small market Tuesdays. That was funny.
[1:21:32] Speaker 2: We were going to be all small market conversations. What happened?
[1:21:35] Speaker 2: They said the views was going to be down. Something happened.
[1:21:39] Speaker 2: It's not that it doesn't go unnoticed.
[1:21:41] Speaker 3: Sonny was supposed to be on that show.
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: He can't come in today. Small market Tuesdays.
[1:21:46] Speaker 4: It's not that it doesn't go unnoticed. It's just that, like...
[1:21:49] Speaker 4: You know, like when you mention guys like Tim Duncan, right?
[1:21:51] Speaker 4: Like guys don't really bring up Tim Duncan a lot
[1:21:53] Speaker 4: because he played in a small market.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: And he was dominant.
[1:21:56] Speaker 4: I'm not saying it doesn't go like we don't know
[1:21:58] Speaker 4: about it, but it's just like if Tim Duncan played
[1:22:00] Speaker 4: for the Knicks or he played for the Lakers, you
[1:22:02] Speaker 4: know how big Tim Duncan would be? So the small
[1:22:04] Speaker 4: market shit does matter because at the end of the day,
[1:22:07] Speaker 4: it's like sometimes it's just like, all right.
[1:22:09] Speaker 3: It matters to marketing.
[1:22:11] Speaker 2: To marketing. This is marketing.
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: This is pretty much the first time.
[1:22:16] Speaker 2: Let me not.
[1:22:19] Speaker 3: misspeak, but of small market guys and teams, they normally
[1:22:27] Speaker 3: aren't big personality guys. I don't know if it's because
[1:22:33] Speaker 3: of how they start or do they come in that way, right?
[1:22:37] Speaker 2: How do you get drafted?
[1:22:38] Speaker 3: Do they come in that way or do they become
[1:22:41] Speaker 3: that because of where they're playing?
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: You can be loud in a small market.
[1:22:45] Speaker 3: Tim was there forever. He just was what he was.
[1:22:47] Speaker 3: Shea is here. Nikola is there. Giannis is there. Reggie
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: Miller played in Indiana. He never won it, but he
[1:22:56] Speaker 3: was small.
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: I'm just.
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: Really good, really good, good player.
[1:23:00] Speaker 3: Golden State was a small market.
[1:23:04] Speaker 2: Playing in Oakland was a small fucking market. What about
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: this guy? He's a national name. He's not a national name.
[1:23:13] Speaker 2: He wasn't doing Hulu commercials. But he's a big-time player.
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: Even his personality, even though he rap and do all that,
[1:23:17] Speaker 2: that's it. If he was in New York, rapping, it'd
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: be crazy. Just what a small market does.
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: 15-16, he was eighth in MVP votes. Didn't make the
[1:23:44] Speaker 3: All-Star game, but made second team. That's what a small
[1:23:49] Speaker 3: market does to you. What about Trey Young? Atlanta's a
[1:23:54] Speaker 3: Different type of place.
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: What's going on with Trey Young?
[1:23:56] Speaker 2: Is he in a big market? No.
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: Atlanta's a big market. Atlanta's a big market for basketball.
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: When it comes to what we're talking about.
[1:24:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, for basketball.
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
[1:24:03] Speaker 2: When it comes to what we're talking about. The success.
[1:24:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, for basketball. Just think about the success that Trey
[1:24:10] Speaker 3: Young has had.
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. With no other all-stars.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: I'm just talking about marketing.
[1:24:18] Speaker 2: Portland, Milwaukee.
[1:24:20] Speaker 1: Those are small markets.
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: With the success that.
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: Tre has had, he's had more playoff success than Dame.
[1:24:27] Speaker 1: Atlanta is the eighth largest market in the NBA.
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: Who? Atlanta. It's the what? Eighth largest. It's not top five.
[1:24:36] Speaker 2: It's a top 10. We won't top. How many teams
[1:24:40] Speaker 2: are in the league? But here what I'm going to
[1:24:41] Speaker 2: do what I'm going to do in the big market.
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: Here's the way I 30 teams is top 10.
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: Are we serious?
[1:24:48] Speaker 3: Here's the way I do. So the way I word
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: is listen. The success that Trey has had. Being in
[1:24:58] Speaker 3: Atlanta beating the Knicks on the biggest stage beating certain
[1:25:01] Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs year in year out. He doesn't
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: get the love nationally that he deserves because of... I
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: think because it's... Atlanta is predominantly black. I thought we
[1:25:14] Speaker 3: talked about it being because of Trey. Because Trey rubbed
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: people the wrong way.
[1:25:19] Speaker 2: He's disliked. Right. Not necessarily because of his game. But
[1:25:22] Speaker 2: it's the national.
[1:25:24] Speaker 3: It's national, right?
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: When a writer in.
[1:25:30] Speaker 3: Utah don't like you because you came in there, motherfucker,
[1:25:33] Speaker 3: and you beat them at the buzzer. You talk your shit. Now,
[1:25:36] Speaker 3: he has a vote on something. He don't vote. So
[1:25:38] Speaker 3: that's popularity. They don't like you. So to your point, yes.
[1:25:42] Speaker 3: But if he played in a different place, he would
[1:25:45] Speaker 3: still be disliked because it's his game.
[1:25:49] Speaker 2: It's what he's doing. I'm rolling dice on the court.
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: He could be playing a losing situation in Brooklyn. No, no, no.
[1:25:55] Speaker 3: So y'all going to the biggest stage. He can be
[1:25:59] Speaker 3: not and this is not the Knicks. He can be
[1:26:01] Speaker 3: playing in Brooklyn, playing in New York, playing in Brooklyn,
[1:26:04] Speaker 3: doing exactly what he's been doing. He would get more love.
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: But if you're in Brooklyn, he'd be getting more love.
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: If you're in Brooklyn, right, and you're making it to
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: the playoffs and beating the Knicks, you're building Brooklyn up.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you should, but the market, the media market
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: is New York. It's New York. But it's not Atlanta.
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: Atlanta. It's top 10. It's top 10. But if it
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: was Brooklyn.
[1:26:31] Speaker 2: Brooklyn's top five. That's Atlanta because it's Atlanta. He's moving
[1:26:34] Speaker 2: up a couple notches. But he gets more love.
[1:26:37] Speaker 1: All I'm saying is the narrative we can push for
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: small market teams like Shea, like Joker, like Giannis. We
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: big them up on the show. They don't go underappreciated.
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: We big them up in here.
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. How many times have I came
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: in and said great shit about Nicole? I'm constantly.
[1:26:59] Speaker 1: Hey, me and.
[1:27:00] Speaker 2: Nicole have been to open this motherfucking daycare. For sure.
[1:27:03] Speaker 2: That's why I was surprised about the conversation. It's true.
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: It's a thing. But if those guys play other places...
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: It would be more. Anthony Edwards did play in Minnesota.
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: If he played in Miami. Oh, my God. Gil has
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: returned with paperwork. You know, he already got a sneaker
[1:27:26] Speaker 2: and already. He's already nationally known. So, imagine if he
[1:27:30] Speaker 2: played in Miami. To me, nothing changes. It does. If
[1:27:32] Speaker 2: his game don't change. It does. If his game doesn't change.
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: The game is still the same. You just got to
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: win now. It's my game. The judge is into the room.
[1:27:46] Speaker 1: Gil has returned with his paperwork. We have been asking
[1:27:49] Speaker 1: for this for the past.
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: Two months, Gil. What's that? Somebody got served? No, no, no.
[1:27:53] Speaker 2: This is... Oh, I thought... This is... This is a
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: master result. Yes. Go. Contract. And this is shoe companies. Contracts.
[1:28:10] Speaker 2: And it has terms in here.
[1:28:13] Speaker 3: Baseline, and then if you get drafted to certain teams,
[1:28:18] Speaker 3: you get a free bonus. So, you get a bonus
[1:28:25] Speaker 3: if you're in a tier one key market teams.
[1:28:29] Speaker 2: And those are?
[1:28:30] Speaker 3: New York, Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers, Brooklyn Nets.
[1:28:38] Speaker 2: Tier one.
[1:28:39] Speaker 3: Mm.
[1:28:40] Speaker 2: Meaning....
[1:28:42] Speaker 3: If you land in that city, your shoe deal tightens.
[1:28:48] Speaker 2: You get bonuses for this. So he missed my.
[1:28:52] Speaker 1: He missed my point.
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: Key market tier 2 teams. Meaning....
[1:28:59] Speaker 3: It drops, but we're still going to give you a
[1:29:01] Speaker 3: little bit. You don't get this one, we're going to
[1:29:03] Speaker 3: give you a little extra. You got Boston, Rockets, Sixers, Chicago, Heat, Dallas, Hawks.
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: So all of these.
[1:29:16] Speaker 3: Players has a little bit more shine than there's no
[1:29:23] Speaker 3: tier three.
[1:29:24] Speaker 2: Tier 3, do you have to give the shoe company
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: money back? Probably. But these is... But what I'm saying is...
[1:29:31] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is.
[1:29:32] Speaker 3: So when you're talking about the next level, if you're
[1:29:37] Speaker 3: landing these... So the teams that's in this Tier 2,
[1:29:39] Speaker 3: and we think about some of those T's, Dallas, Mavericks,
[1:29:42] Speaker 3: they get a little bit of shine.
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: They still get some shine. Right? Now think about the
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: teams that are not named. All the cities, yeah. Right?
[1:29:54] Speaker 2: So when you're talking about Shea, we're talking about a
[1:29:59] Speaker 2: guy named Shea who swept in all of that.
[1:30:04] Speaker 3: Did we not see what New York City looked like
[1:30:07] Speaker 3: in the playoffs?
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a big market.
[1:30:11] Speaker 3: Did you not see the damn near the whole city
[1:30:14] Speaker 3: go crazy? That's what a big market team looks like.
[1:30:20] Speaker 3: That's what Brunson looks like. When we're talking about Hallie,
[1:30:25] Speaker 3: Hallie looked what? His stock went 10 times.
[1:30:29] Speaker 2: What team was he playing? Indiana Pacers.
[1:30:32] Speaker 3: That's the biggest light, and he looked so great in
[1:30:35] Speaker 3: that light, it heightens him. It's just there's nothing you
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: can do about it.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: That's what it is.
[1:30:41] Speaker 3: So if Shea was sitting in one of these cities,
[1:30:43] Speaker 3: a top city, his stock just flies out the roof.
[1:30:47] Speaker 3: Like they have to do so much more than everybody else.
[1:30:50] Speaker 3: Joker has the average of triple-double for someone to say, hey, man,
[1:30:53] Speaker 3: Joker had a good game last night. We don't even
[1:30:57] Speaker 3: know what Portland's doing. We don't even know what Charlotte's doing.
[1:31:00] Speaker 3: We don't know what none of these guys are doing
[1:31:01] Speaker 3: because no one cares.
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: I disagree. I know you can.
[1:31:05] Speaker 3: Disagree all you want, but here's the thing.
[1:31:07] Speaker 1: You went up there and got all that shit to
[1:31:09] Speaker 1: prove me right. Because the names I just said when
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: he took his ass upstairs was boo-da-boo-da-boo-da-boo-da-boo.
[1:31:18] Speaker 2: I can't prove you right. I don't know what you're saying. Like,
[1:31:20] Speaker 2: Atlanta on the list.
[1:31:21] Speaker 3: All I heard was you say Atlanta, but people don't
[1:31:23] Speaker 3: watch Atlanta until they... So my thing is, to what
[1:31:26] Speaker 3: you just said, right, you made a good point just
[1:31:27] Speaker 3: a minute ago, right?
[1:31:28] Speaker 2: Trey Song, we get famous on. Guess who wins? Trey
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: New York. No, I'm just saying. When he starts on
[1:31:33] Speaker 2: New York. Trey Song. Shay is different. And if you plan.
[1:31:38] Speaker 3: To Tyrese Halliburton's point you was just making now, him
[1:31:43] Speaker 3: playing against the Knicks and heightening his... celebrity and his notoriety.
[1:31:49] Speaker 2: It's like Reggie Miller. It's like Reggie Miller.
[1:31:51] Speaker 3: Kaitlin Clark and Halliburton is in Indiana at the same time.
[1:31:55] Speaker 2: And because he called, too. If he didn't play well,
[1:31:57] Speaker 2: nobody would give a fuck. Right? There's nobody would give
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: a fuck if he didn't play well.
[1:32:01] Speaker 3: The fact that he's playing well and the fact that
[1:32:05] Speaker 3: he's playing against the Knicks and the fans did all
[1:32:07] Speaker 3: of that shit on the streets and all that. That
[1:32:09] Speaker 3: helped his jersey sales.
[1:32:14] Speaker 1: But we don't live in a society no more where
[1:32:16] Speaker 1: you say big, small anymore.
[1:32:18] Speaker 2: 2025. It's the internet. It's 2025. The internet exists. The
[1:32:20] Speaker 2: internet is alive. The internet shows you that you can
[1:32:23] Speaker 2: go here. And you can be big here. You can
[1:32:31] Speaker 2: be big anywhere. You can be big anywhere.
[1:32:34] Speaker 3: You're going on theory of you could be big anywhere.
[1:32:38] Speaker 2: I'm going on theory that Shay is big. As a player,
[1:32:48] Speaker 2: super pause. Damn.
[1:32:51] Speaker 1: Shea is, oh, damn, how do you even?
[1:32:56] Speaker 2: How big is he? No, let him go. Yeah. You
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: couldn't wait.
[1:33:00] Speaker 3: He just kept talking. Why'd you stop? I just had
[1:33:03] Speaker 3: to talk about it. I was like, damn.
[1:33:05] Speaker 2: That was dangerous.
[1:33:07] Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, like, Shea don't need the marketing
[1:33:14] Speaker 1: to be who he is for the NBA today. He
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: doesn't need all this additional shit. He's killing. He's doing
[1:33:22] Speaker 1: what he do.
[1:33:23] Speaker 2: But Joker don't need that either.
[1:33:25] Speaker 3: Because he's not playing for the likes.
[1:33:27] Speaker 2: He's not playing for the likes. He's not playing for
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: you to buy something from him. He is playing for
[1:33:33] Speaker 2: the likes. He's arguing something else.
[1:33:36] Speaker 3: Because they got whole countries behind them.
[1:33:39] Speaker 2: No, but he's crazy. Does that make him a bigger...
[1:33:41] Speaker 2: Does it make him a bigger.
[1:33:44] Speaker 3: No, he has a whole country.
[1:33:46] Speaker 2: Does that make him a bigger market, though? No. Yes.
[1:33:48] Speaker 1: You think Converse is happy that.
[1:33:51] Speaker 2: MJ's market is.
[1:33:52] Speaker 1: One thing, but for Shea, Shea has a whole country
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: behind him. The beautiful country of Canada.
[1:33:57] Speaker 3: In Canada, I bet that motherfucker ain't on the shelf.
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: But you go to.
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: When Nicole was from, he's the biggest thing that supported him.
[1:34:06] Speaker 2: They're different, right?
[1:34:08] Speaker 3: But, like, it's just them dudes playing somewhere else.
[1:34:13] Speaker 2: It would definitely help. Converse is mad as hell. Converse
[1:34:17] Speaker 2: is mad. Converse wished that SJ was somewhere else. Of course. Yeah,
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: Nike does. Of course. Of course. They don't give a shit.
[1:34:25] Speaker 2: Converse does. They don't give a shit. They don't give
[1:34:28] Speaker 2: a shit. Shay is different. Shay don't give a fuck.
[1:34:31] Speaker 2: It's a conversation. The fans don't give a fuck. Shay
[1:34:34] Speaker 2: is different. The fans don't give a fuck. If Shay
[1:34:37] Speaker 2: went right down, I'd fucking 35. I'm going to have
[1:34:40] Speaker 2: dry south.
[1:34:41] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:34:46] Speaker 3: In the car, I don't have drive south. Go play
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: for the Dallas Mavericks. It'll be a little different.
[1:34:51] Speaker 2: I would say. Yes, it would. Yes, it would. The
[1:34:53] Speaker 2: fans would not care. The fans are still going to
[1:34:56] Speaker 2: watch Shea.
[1:34:57] Speaker 3: But they're not. They're people who live in the city.
[1:35:00] Speaker 3: They're people that play. How are you missing it when
[1:35:03] Speaker 3: we're having an.
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: Argument every year? You're talking about shoe companies. We're having
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: it every year in the city. It's more in Dallas.
[1:35:10] Speaker 2: We're saying the same thing every year.
[1:35:14] Speaker 3: But your city helped.
[1:35:15] Speaker 2: They're 11-1. 12-1. Huh? 12-1.
[1:35:19] Speaker 3: 12-1, but they're not getting viewed like a 12-1 team.
[1:35:23] Speaker 2: You got one who's averaging triple-double. We're barely hearing about it. Cavs, right?
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: What the hell?
[1:35:30] Speaker 3: What did Cavs have to do for anyone to talk
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: about it last year?
[1:35:34] Speaker 2: 23-something. Oh, they on 12 games? They play 12 games?
[1:35:37] Speaker 1: 15-0, three 12 games.
[1:35:38] Speaker 2: People who watch are paying attention. Anthony Edwards. People who
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: are not watching are not. Anthony Edwards.
[1:35:46] Speaker 3: Was you paying attention when you seen them niggas winning
[1:35:49] Speaker 3: that game?
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. I think everybody in Cleveland was too. Everybody
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: in Cleveland was. So you just made my point. I
[1:35:56] Speaker 2: just made it, right?
[1:35:58] Speaker 3: Everybody in Cleveland was. How many fucking states are in it?
[1:36:02] Speaker 3: Everybody in Cleveland was.
[1:36:04] Speaker 2: You don't need, some people don't need certain big cities.
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. Let me ask y'all a question.
[1:36:12] Speaker 3: Does support for a team start in the city that
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: it lives? It starts there, right?
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: For sure, of course. It starts there. Mm-hmm.
[1:36:21] Speaker 3: The more people in the city where you play, the
[1:36:24] Speaker 3: more people that supports the team. It starts in the
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: city where you play and where you reside. Then people move,
[1:36:34] Speaker 3: people live other places that was from that city.
[1:36:39] Speaker 2: Oklahoma City is a small place. But small.
[1:36:43] Speaker 1: Other people live other places that's from Oklahoma City, yes.
[1:36:47] Speaker 1: But Oklahoma City, it can only, has always been this big.
[1:36:50] Speaker 1: It's a college town. Dallas, Texas.
[1:36:53] Speaker 2: LA is not going to support OKC. Guess how much.
[1:36:57] Speaker 1: Yes, they do.
[1:36:58] Speaker 2: You know how big the internet is?
[1:37:00] Speaker 3: How big is the internet? How big is the internet?
[1:37:04] Speaker 3: The internet is bigger than the small city of Oklahoma City.
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: I've never seen nobody walk around L.A. with an SBA jersey.
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: I'm talking about personalities, though. I'm talking about, like, Anthony Edwards.
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: I've never seen people walk around. They'd be bigger. But
[1:37:16] Speaker 2: he is big. He's big. The whole game last night,
[1:37:19] Speaker 2: all I see was Anthony. And a Klaus commercial. Yeah. Right?
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: And a Klaus commercial. What I'm saying is, you're talking about,
[1:37:24] Speaker 2: he is big. Cool. Because his personality.
[1:37:26] Speaker 11: Because his personality. That's what I'm saying. Y'all are hearing
[1:37:31] Speaker 11: a second. Your game itself, a John Morant game. Move
[1:37:36] Speaker 11: him to Chicago. Can oversee the city.
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: Either one of them. A personality in a game can
[1:37:41] Speaker 2: oversee the city. Right? Yes. But if you're a Austin Reeves. Mm-hmm.
[1:37:48] Speaker 3: And you're playing in a big city, you're going to
[1:37:51] Speaker 3: get more love than the nigga who's in MTV.
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: No.
[1:37:56] Speaker 3: The internet is the internet, man. The local TV going
[1:38:00] Speaker 3: to pump you?
[1:38:02] Speaker 2: No. I don't have any local OKC TV. Because you
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: live in LA. Yes.
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: But you know, okay the internet and okay see got
[1:38:12] Speaker 1: access to everybody We can watch everything if we don't
[1:38:18] Speaker 1: have to live in LA.
[1:38:19] Speaker 3: Okay, so you ever been to I'm pretty sure you have.
[1:38:23] Speaker 3: If you lived in Cleveland and a Cleveland game is on,
[1:38:27] Speaker 3: you're going.
[1:38:27] Speaker 2: To watch Cleveland, right? I'm pretty sure George is not
[1:38:30] Speaker 2: going to watch OKC. Unless they're playing Cleveland. If it's on, George,
[1:38:36] Speaker 2: if you.
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: Have YouTube TV and you got access to four different
[1:38:40] Speaker 1: games at.
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: One time, at halftime, I'm going to tune in to
[1:38:44] Speaker 2: the other game. The local TV. The local TV, nigga.
[1:38:48] Speaker 2: The local TV.
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: The local TV watching the local niggas.
[1:38:51] Speaker 2: Link back.
[1:38:56] Speaker 3: We don't care if you're gonna pay to watch these
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: other teams that's on other platforms or not We're gonna
[1:39:01] Speaker 3: keep it like this So if you want to watch
[1:39:03] Speaker 3: these other games you want to.
[1:39:04] Speaker 1: Watch this because we're no longer on linear TV We're
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: no longer linear.
[1:39:09] Speaker 2: We're no longer. Hey, it's just ESPN. It's just TNT.
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: These are the games you now have access via the internet.
[1:39:18] Speaker 2: To watch all the games. And no one watches all
[1:39:21] Speaker 2: the games. You don't have to just live in OKC.
[1:39:23] Speaker 2: But no one watches it. Yes, they do. That's why
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: the viewership is up. For not that team. The entire league. No.
[1:39:32] Speaker 2: Isn't that team in the league? Hey, that team's in
[1:39:35] Speaker 2: the league. And that team won the championship. Yeah.
[1:39:38] Speaker 3: Let's go watch the champions beat Luka in this.
[1:39:41] Speaker 2: Or watch the Lakers. Okay. Hey, hey, football, football, football. Oh,
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: we're going to move to the goal? No, no, no.
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: We're going to say football, right?
[1:39:47] Speaker 10: All right.
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: Let's go to football.
[1:39:49] Speaker 3: I am.
[1:39:50] Speaker 2: So, football. Tombstones in the chat. Football.
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: Who is the biggest football team?
[1:39:54] Speaker 2: Oh, Cowboys. Cowboys, right? How big is Dallas? Huge, right?
[1:39:59] Speaker 2: That means everyone spread. So when they.
[1:40:02] Speaker 2: When was the last time they won a game? I mean,
[1:40:04] Speaker 2: just won.
[1:40:04] Speaker 3: 20-something years, right? But they're the most expensive team. The
[1:40:10] Speaker 3: biggest franchise, biggest people move out. We said the cities. Lakers,
[1:40:16] Speaker 3: New York. Those people migrate, support their teams.
[1:40:20] Speaker 2: That's what happens.
[1:40:23] Speaker 3: How many people move from small cities out?
[1:40:27] Speaker 2: So they're just local. It's a local thing.
[1:40:30] Speaker 3: That's why as a star, if you're Shea and you're
[1:40:33] Speaker 3: doing what you're doing, right, you would think that when
[1:40:36] Speaker 3: you get on ESPN and you just drop it, you
[1:40:39] Speaker 3: would think you're number one. Instead of Shea drops another,
[1:40:44] Speaker 3: what's the name? What is the tagline for people to watch? Ooh, Lakers. Ooh,
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: Lakers drop one. Lakers this. Lakers that. Lakers this.
[1:40:52] Speaker 1: As a star, you're sitting there like, ah, damn.
[1:40:54] Speaker 2: Like, I just had 40. I just had 40.
[1:40:55] Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't talk about you as the talking point.
[1:40:59] Speaker 3: They talk about the Lakers as a talking point. And
[1:41:01] Speaker 3: that's what happens in a small city.
[1:41:03] Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the Lakers as a talking point, Gil,
[1:41:05] Speaker 5: it's what we call segue, Jay. It's been more than
[1:41:08] Speaker 5: nine months since Luka got traded to the Lakers.
[1:41:10] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[1:41:12] Speaker 5: And after the game, Slim Slovenian Jesus was asked about
[1:41:15] Speaker 5: the mass fire of Nico Harrison and had this response.
[1:41:19] Speaker 2: Did you just throw my gavel while I was helping
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: you judge?
[1:41:22] Speaker 12: The city of Dallas, the fans, the players, they all
[1:41:27] Speaker 12: have a special place in my heart. I thought I
[1:41:30] Speaker 12: was going to stay there forever, but I didn't. So
[1:41:34] Speaker 12: they'll always be a special place for me. Always I
[1:41:37] Speaker 12: can call it home. But right now I'm focused on
[1:41:41] Speaker 12: the Lakers, you know, trying to move on. But obviously
[1:41:46] Speaker 12: always is going to be part of me in there.
[1:41:49] Speaker 12: But just trying to move on, focus on what we're
[1:41:52] Speaker 12: doing here.
[1:41:55] Speaker 3: With Nico now gone and you obviously have a lot
[1:41:57] Speaker 3: of fans back in Dallas, Is there a world in
[1:42:00] Speaker 3: which you could ever see yourself playing for that franchise
[1:42:03] Speaker 3: ever again, perhaps one day down the road?
[1:42:05] Speaker 12: Right now, I'm just focused on the Lakers. No further comments.
[1:42:12] Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to that small-ass market.
[1:42:15] Speaker 1: I'm just focused on the big-market Lakers.
[1:42:17] Speaker 2: That's a dumb-ass question. Hey, you got any OKC stuff? Yeah,
[1:42:23] Speaker 2: we had a whole OKC segment. No, no, no.
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: Because they won by 30. Are we going to the
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: segment or not? No, I'm just saying they won by 30.
[1:42:30] Speaker 2: I know what. Let's do the small marketing.
[1:42:33] Speaker 3: Can you show us OKC interview?
[1:42:35] Speaker 1: Unfortunately, small market Tuesdays. And as you know, the day
[1:42:38] Speaker 1: is Thursday. Oh, they didn't do it.
[1:42:39] Speaker 2: So 11 and 1.
[1:42:40] Speaker 3: 12 and 1. So you don't get no... We literally
[1:42:45] Speaker 3: had a whole Thunder segment. No, no, I want to
[1:42:48] Speaker 3: hear them talk. Salute to small markets. Do we have
[1:42:50] Speaker 3: it or we haven't? Are we about to go into
[1:42:53] Speaker 3: the segment? We just already have it. Salute to small markets.
[1:42:58] Speaker 3: That was the tagline name for it. I'm just saying,
[1:43:01] Speaker 3: I thought there would be a video of the.
[1:43:03] Speaker 2: Oh, KC! Okay, Sean. Does this match?
[1:43:10] Speaker 3: Most likely it's not going to match the topic, but
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: let's go.
[1:43:14] Speaker 1: Go with him first so we can ask him. Go ahead. No,
[1:43:17] Speaker 1: what is the question? Does Mavs firing Nico give Luka
[1:43:21] Speaker 1: more closure on that chapter of his NBA career? It's
[1:43:27] Speaker 1: like Poodie Tang. You can't hear it, but it sounds amazing.
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: Sounds amazing, don't it?
[1:43:30] Speaker 2: I was saying the same thing. I'm like, damn, Maluka.
[1:43:33] Speaker 2: Don't need no words. It's the kind of questions you
[1:43:36] Speaker 2: get after you lose like that. That's insane.
[1:43:39] Speaker 5: The Mass Friar and Nico give Luka a little bit
[1:43:41] Speaker 5: more closure on that chapter. If somebody traded you, every
[1:43:43] Speaker 5: time you got to think about them.
[1:43:45] Speaker 1: The chapter was closed when they traded him. Yeah, but
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: you still got to think about it.
[1:43:48] Speaker 2: No, you don't.
[1:43:48] Speaker 3: He didn't have to.
[1:43:49] Speaker 1: You got to see his teammates.
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: No, it was on her.
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: You had to see that small market team beat they ass.
[1:43:56] Speaker 2: These small market niggas coming in here.
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: Won't you ask me something else so I can cheer
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: this bitch up?
[1:44:01] Speaker 3: They had a whole off season. Oh, is that a joke?
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: He had a whole off-season. We going down.
[1:44:08] Speaker 2: Riverdale. The fans still support him. The fans still love him.
[1:44:12] Speaker 2: 12 years of slave. I'm 12 years of slave in it.
[1:44:14] Speaker 1: But you heard Luka again say, I thought I was
[1:44:17] Speaker 1: going to spend my whole career there, right?
[1:44:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, because he asked the question.
[1:44:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm in L.A. now.
[1:44:20] Speaker 3: Much better city, obviously. He only asked this shit because
[1:44:23] Speaker 3: he was asked the question. Trust me, nobody ever asks
[1:44:26] Speaker 3: him again. He's not going to solicit answers about fucking Dallas.
[1:44:29] Speaker 3: He's not going to come out to a press conference
[1:44:31] Speaker 3: and be like, Man, I thought I was going to
[1:44:32] Speaker 3: spend my whole fuck career in Dallas. Like, yeah, like, no,
[1:44:36] Speaker 3: I never thought about going back to play there. Like, no,
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: he ain't going to come out there and say that shit.
[1:44:40] Speaker 3: He's only answering because he was asked the question.
[1:44:42] Speaker 2: Do you think Luka Carradine was a small market?
[1:44:44] Speaker 3: He been closed that chapter. Dallas is not really a
[1:44:46] Speaker 3: small market.
[1:44:47] Speaker 2: It's not really a small market, is it?
[1:44:48] Speaker 3: No, Dallas is not.
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: Okay. Did he say no further comment? No, thank you. Man, like,
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: do you... What was Luka's jersey sale in Dallas going
[1:44:59] Speaker 2: to the championship?
[1:45:00] Speaker 3: What was Luka's jersey sale in popularity when he got drafted?
[1:45:04] Speaker 3: The day he got traded, what happened to Luka Doncic
[1:45:12] Speaker 3: popularity and his jersey sale and his awareness. All right, well,
[1:45:16] Speaker 3: let me give you all this.
[1:45:17] Speaker 2: Guess why. Well, let me give you all this. Guess why.
[1:45:20] Speaker 1: Why the Dallas-Fort Worth market is not a small market.
[1:45:22] Speaker 2: It's not a small market.
[1:45:23] Speaker 3: Because there's 8 million people that live in this fucking metroplex.
[1:45:28] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:45:28] Speaker 3: That's more than fucking 40 states.
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: Yep.
[1:45:33] Speaker 3: That live in Dallas, so Dallas is not a small market.
[1:45:36] Speaker 2: Dallas, Fort Worth. It's the fifth biggest market in the country.
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, as a city, Dallas, Fort Worth
[1:45:41] Speaker 1: is a city, it's not a state. We're talking about
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: just the DFW Metroplex, Dallas, Fort Worth Metroplex. There's more
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: people that live there than fucking like 40 states. One
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: of the biggest airports I've ever seen in my life. Yes,
[1:45:55] Speaker 1: so therefore it's not a small market. You're number five
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: and Atlanta's number eight.
[1:46:00] Speaker 2: And what number is Lakers? Two. So he went from
[1:46:04] Speaker 2: five to two, and the world shook.
[1:46:06] Speaker 1: What if he went to New York?
[1:46:10] Speaker 2: Keep going, Judge.
[1:46:13] Speaker 1: Hit him again. Hit the motherfucker. Tell me when to
[1:46:17] Speaker 1: hit it, because you're going some good points.
[1:46:19] Speaker 2: Whoa. Again. Let me hear it again. Let me hear
[1:46:24] Speaker 2: it again. Let me hear it again. Let me hear
[1:46:26] Speaker 2: it again. Let me hear it again. I used to
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: play the clarinet. I played the violin. In the sixth grade.
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: In the third grade, I played the violin. I played
[1:46:48] Speaker 2: with glue. You played with glue. I played with glue. Right?
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: I used to peel that shit off my hand. I
[1:46:54] Speaker 2: used to love peeling that glue off my hand.
[1:46:56] Speaker 1: Hot Cross Buns is the first song you learn. That's
[1:46:59] Speaker 1: why I know the song right. You about to play
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: Hot Cross Buns. That's the first song they teach you.
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: I was just going to play it. Hot nigga, hot.
[1:47:08] Speaker 2: Hot nigga, hot. Run, nigga, run. Run, nigga, run.
[1:47:11] Speaker 5: One of my favorites. We got one last topic to
[1:47:13] Speaker 5: discuss before we head out for this week. So recently,
[1:47:16] Speaker 5: the NBA announced that a record 135 international players from
[1:47:19] Speaker 5: a record-tying 43 countries were on opening night rosters to
[1:47:23] Speaker 5: start this season. The 135 international players break the previous
[1:47:26] Speaker 5: record of 125 since the 2023-24 season. Canada leads the
[1:47:31] Speaker 5: way with 23 players. Gil's staring at me right now.
[1:47:33] Speaker 2: Ten more. Ten more, Gil.
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: That's ten less American jobs.
[1:47:37] Speaker 5: Canada leads the way with 23 players, including 2025 MVP Finals,
[1:47:40] Speaker 5: MVP SGA. France coming in second with 19 players.
[1:47:44] Speaker 2: Oui, oui.
[1:47:45] Speaker 5: Also a record 71 European players. And all 30 teams
[1:47:48] Speaker 5: had at least one international player on their roster. So
[1:47:51] Speaker 5: according to the league, opening night rosters are featured at
[1:47:53] Speaker 5: least 120 international players for the fifth consecutive season. Mr. B,
[1:47:59] Speaker 5: what is nearly a third of the NBA being foreign
[1:48:01] Speaker 5: players say about the state of the league?
[1:48:05] Speaker 4: That the development in America, they better step their game up.
[1:48:09] Speaker 4: AAU systems, high school, everything, because they're coming over here
[1:48:14] Speaker 4: and they've been taking over.
[1:48:16] Speaker 2: They've been taking over the last couple five years if
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: we look.
[1:48:19] Speaker 4: At the MVPs and the champions and and everything like
[1:48:21] Speaker 4: that you know I'm a big fan of high school
[1:48:25] Speaker 4: basketball but man you know if you can get an
[1:48:27] Speaker 4: opportunity to go overseas for a couple years and develop
[1:48:30] Speaker 4: I mean the way it's looking it looks like that
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: might be the route but for American.
[1:48:34] Speaker 2: Basketball AAU programs Y'all better tune it up.
[1:48:38] Speaker 4: Y'all better really start dialing in and really start preparing
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: these young guys because we see what's happening.
[1:48:43] Speaker 8: You got to just focus on offense out here then.
[1:48:47] Speaker 8: Focus on offense in America. That's all we got to
[1:48:50] Speaker 8: do is focus on offense. Passing and offense. I wish
[1:48:55] Speaker 8: Americans got as much leeway as foreigners do too. That's
[1:49:00] Speaker 8: another thing. They get too many passes, bro. They would
[1:49:05] Speaker 8: never do– If Kaminga was from France, he would never
[1:49:08] Speaker 8: be getting treated like that.
[1:49:11] Speaker 2: From the Congo, I believe.
[1:49:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you think he's from?
[1:49:17] Speaker 13: He's from Africa. He's from across the water. He's from
[1:49:21] Speaker 13: over there. A bunch of you. The Democratic Republic of Congo.
[1:49:29] Speaker 13: You think they get away with that?
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: Hell, man. Come on, man. Let an American do what
[1:49:33] Speaker 2: Luca do. What Luke will be doing? We got one.
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: Just be a great human? And you see how they
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: treat James Harden. What Luke will be doing? You see
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: how they treat James Harden. All right.
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: No, I see how y'all treat Cade Cunningham. We doing
[1:49:47] Speaker 1: what Luka do. He out there playing. We just gave
[1:49:50] Speaker 1: him doing shit. He didn't watch us. Hey, hit the thing.
[1:49:53] Speaker 2: I watched it. Not enough you talk about one day.
[1:49:56] Speaker 2: It's cool.
[1:49:56] Speaker 1: You can talk about Luka every goddamn day. I'm going
[1:49:58] Speaker 1: to give him love. You want me to hit it
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: for you?
[1:50:01] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Hit the thing for you. You want
[1:50:04] Speaker 2: me to hit the thing?
[1:50:05] Speaker 1: Did the artists become best friends?
[1:50:06] Speaker 2: Okay. I don't fuck with that nigga, man. Nah, fuck you.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: You took my nachos, man. Yeah, no, that wasn't nachos.
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: I'm not finna sit here and listen to you eat
[1:50:14] Speaker 1: chips and guac.
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: I'm listening to y'all say some dumb shit. Like, you
[1:50:18] Speaker 2: already backed up.
[1:50:18] Speaker 1: I got to sit here and watch you eat motherfucking
[1:50:21] Speaker 1: Starburst after Starburst after Starburst and this nigga over here
[1:50:23] Speaker 1: eat chocolate, digging in lime. You two niggas over here
[1:50:26] Speaker 1: just back and forth with the rappers. You sipping coffee
[1:50:29] Speaker 1: and shit like this. Gangsta gon' Blowing fucking your coffee
[1:50:34] Speaker 1: is hot.
[1:50:35] Speaker 2: Take the hotness. That's a gangster. You're supposed to be...
[1:50:39] Speaker 2: Let the shit burn your throat. Let the shit burn
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: your throat. Take the hotness. What kind of shit is that?
[1:50:48] Speaker 2: I don't know what you shit going down your throat.
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: I don't know what you talking about, man. Let the
[1:50:56] Speaker 1: hotness go down your throat. Let the hotness go down
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: your throat. I don't know what you talking about. I
[1:51:02] Speaker 1: don't know what you talking about. Nah, you drink that motherfucker.
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: So, wait, so K don't play defense? I don't know.
[1:51:12] Speaker 1: We were talking about international players.
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: To Brandon's point, right? I don't know. He said K
[1:51:18] Speaker 2: don't play defense. Whatever, man. Shit.
[1:51:20] Speaker 3: He's from Dallas. K from Dallas. Arlington, to be exact.
[1:51:25] Speaker 2: Okay, okay. A fine city. Yeah.
[1:51:28] Speaker 3: High school was a couple minutes from my house. But, yes, Brandon,
[1:51:33] Speaker 3: to your point, they need to step up their development
[1:51:36] Speaker 3: game early.
[1:51:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:51:38] Speaker 3: AAU basketball is becoming a detriment to these kids' development.
[1:51:42] Speaker 2: Man, nah.
[1:51:45] Speaker 1: Developing and playing the game the right way and not
[1:51:49] Speaker 1: idolizing and not putting a big spotlight on guys that
[1:51:53] Speaker 1: are just going out and chucking shots and shooting threes.
[1:51:56] Speaker 3: That's not what they're doing in Europe. And those guys,
[1:51:58] Speaker 3: it's been the thing.
[1:51:59] Speaker 2: What's they doing in Europe? IQ.
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: Are they playing the game the right way? They're studying
[1:52:04] Speaker 1: the history of basketball. They play fundamentally sound basketball.
[1:52:08] Speaker 2: History. All right, so they got five or seven good... Actually, I.
[1:52:15] Speaker 3: Wasn't motherfucking done talking. Like, to be fucking honest. This
[1:52:20] Speaker 3: nigga just want to argue in this bitch.
[1:52:23] Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking.
[1:52:24] Speaker 3: The fuck?
[1:52:25] Speaker 1: Like.
[1:52:27] Speaker 3: To bring up the point, our kids are behind when
[1:52:31] Speaker 3: it comes to that part of the game. Because of that,
[1:52:34] Speaker 3: the things that are being glorified, social media and media
[1:52:39] Speaker 3: and things like that, what's being glorified is not the
[1:52:42] Speaker 3: fundamentals of the game of basketball. Playing the game the
[1:52:45] Speaker 3: right way. They do that shit at an early age, 12, 13.
[1:52:49] Speaker 1: That's why guys can start playing professionally like Luka at
[1:52:53] Speaker 1: such a young age, because he has a fundamental background
[1:52:57] Speaker 1: and then you develop all the other things and the
[1:52:59] Speaker 1: bad habits later. Us, we develop bad habits first and
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: then try to go to fundamentals. Don't fucking work that way.
[1:53:09] Speaker 1: And the European guys are passing our ass up because
[1:53:13] Speaker 1: of that. And the NBA are looking to those guys
[1:53:16] Speaker 1: to fill those voids because the game is expanding.
[1:53:20] Speaker 2: They got one international player on every roster.
[1:53:23] Speaker 3: And I guarantee if there's not a coach from over
[1:53:26] Speaker 3: there on every roster, it's damn near a coach for
[1:53:29] Speaker 3: every roster from over there.
[1:53:31] Speaker 1: Are we glorifying the top players or the rest of
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: the Europeans?
[1:53:36] Speaker 3: There's only six, seven top guys.
[1:53:39] Speaker 2: I mean, 135 of them. For sure. And there's only
[1:53:42] Speaker 2: four stars. Name them. Four stars.
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: Five.
[1:53:45] Speaker 1: Are we glorifying Stoker, Giannis, and fucking... What about the
[1:53:50] Speaker 1: other motherfuckers?
[1:53:51] Speaker 2: 132 guys. It's 132. 132 other Europeans. What are they doing?
[1:53:58] Speaker 2: What are they doing? They're doing it. They're taking over.
[1:54:02] Speaker 2: They're taking over. Those spots.
[1:54:05] Speaker 3: The spots he's talking about is the corner boy spots
[1:54:08] Speaker 3: that actually know how to plug and play.
[1:54:10] Speaker 2: They understand rotation and all that.
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: What would Spencer Dinwiddie consider?
[1:54:15] Speaker 2: Would you consider Spencer Dinwiddie a corner nigga? Where he
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: at now? Overseas. Exactly. If he was foreign, he'd be
[1:54:22] Speaker 2: an NBA.
[1:54:23] Speaker 1: The point I'm making is somebody from Europe has his spot.
[1:54:30] Speaker 2: And where he, they switch spots. Somebody from Europe has
[1:54:32] Speaker 2: his spot. They give foreigners more leverage than our own. No.
[1:54:36] Speaker 1: No. You didn't answer the question.
[1:54:40] Speaker 2: Would you consider Spencer Dinwiddie a quarter nigga?
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: Right now, there are 132 corner Europeans in the NBA.
[1:54:48] Speaker 2: Not the stars. 132 corner Europeans. They get more leeway
[1:54:52] Speaker 2: than us. Corner internationals. They get way more leeway than us.
[1:54:56] Speaker 1: There ain't leeway if you already had the spot. You
[1:54:58] Speaker 1: had the spot, but you had the spot.
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: Because you're giving it to them. You don't criticize them.
[1:55:03] Speaker 3: You do not criticize them, bro. Spencer had a blue body.
[1:55:07] Speaker 2: We don't say nothing bad about Luca. All he do
[1:55:10] Speaker 2: is score. Who don't joke with the baby? Don't play defense.
[1:55:13] Speaker 2: Joker don't play. Stay gone too. Luca don't play defense.
[1:55:16] Speaker 1: But if somebody was American doing the same thing, oh,
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: he don't play defense.
[1:55:20] Speaker 2: Because guess what? James Harden. Do Wimby play defense? He's
[1:55:22] Speaker 2: treated like shit. Do Wimby play defense? I be pointing
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: out the motherfucker that's 7'7. Okay, I just asked a question.
[1:55:28] Speaker 2: Come on, man. Come on. Just ask a question. Does
[1:55:30] Speaker 2: Wimby play defense? Stop. Name anybody else that play defense. Giannis.
[1:55:32] Speaker 2: Do Giannis play defense? Now to keep naming them. The
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: Shea play defense. The Shea play defense. Keep going now.
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: I'm asking you. Say yes.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Say yes. That's three? Did you say yes to three?
[1:55:46] Speaker 1: I'm not going to say any more.
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: Those three. Like I said. One, two, three. Three out
[1:55:51] Speaker 2: of the top five. Three out of the top five.
[1:55:53] Speaker 2: I can name three. There's a defensive team.
[1:56:00] Speaker 3: Name me three American players that do what they do.
[1:56:04] Speaker 3: Name me three American players that do what they do.
[1:56:08] Speaker 2: Nick, we talking who? Are we talking who?
[1:56:12] Speaker 3: Name me three American players that do what these.
[1:56:15] Speaker 2: Other three guys do. Come on, man. Hold on. Let's
[1:56:20] Speaker 2: hear it, Nick. We're going to put you on the spot.
[1:56:22] Speaker 1: Name me three American players that do what Wimby, Giannis,
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: and Shea do.
[1:56:26] Speaker 2: Both sides of the ball. Oh, now it's both sides. Oh,
[1:56:29] Speaker 2: both sides now. That's what he just said. I thought
[1:56:31] Speaker 2: he said defense. No, he said both sides. Please name
[1:56:33] Speaker 2: me three.
[1:56:33] Speaker 1: He said just do what they do, period.
[1:56:34] Speaker 2: Please name me three. Well, nobody can do what Giannis does.
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: Please name me three.
[1:56:40] Speaker 1: Nobody can name you what, oh, hey, we're taking two,
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: three minutes to do this.
[1:56:44] Speaker 2: What Wimby does. Look on your phone.
[1:56:47] Speaker 3: Y'all go look on y'all phones and figure it out
[1:56:48] Speaker 3: because y'all can't name me three.
[1:56:50] Speaker 2: The point we're making is, Brandon, like, yes. Please tell me.
[1:56:55] Speaker 2: Who could do what we do?
[1:56:56] Speaker 3: I have a seven-year-old, right, that he's in love with
[1:56:59] Speaker 3: the game of basketball. And I told my wife, if
[1:57:01] Speaker 3: he's continuing at this trajectory with his love and compassion
[1:57:04] Speaker 3: for the game of basketball, when he becomes 14, 15, 16,
[1:57:06] Speaker 3: we're going to really consider getting the fuck out of
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: here and going somewhere else.
[1:57:11] Speaker 2: Don't need you. Right? Don't need you.
[1:57:13] Speaker 3: No, I'm saying we don't, but I'm just saying, if
[1:57:14] Speaker 3: the game continues the way that you have to.
[1:57:18] Speaker 2: Go consider it. I ain't saying we will. You got
[1:57:19] Speaker 2: to because they get more respect. You get foreigners to
[1:57:22] Speaker 2: get more respect. They develop in a different way. They
[1:57:25] Speaker 2: develop in a different way. Unicorn. It's bigger than just basketball.
[1:57:29] Speaker 2: It's more for life for him to go out there
[1:57:31] Speaker 2: and experience something than life. Y'all can't name three motherfuckers.
[1:57:33] Speaker 2: It's weird to me. Name one of them who can
[1:57:37] Speaker 2: be like Shaquille O'Neal. It's weird to me. Name one
[1:57:39] Speaker 2: of them who can be like Michael Jordan. Name me
[1:57:41] Speaker 2: three American players. Name me three American players.
[1:57:45] Speaker 3: Name me three American players.
[1:57:48] Speaker 2: Name me three.
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: Players that can play like Shaquille O'Neal over there in history.
[1:57:55] Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. They're not playing right now. They're not playing
[1:57:59] Speaker 2: right now. Kevin Durant. You're not playing right now.
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: LeBron James.
[1:58:02] Speaker 2: You're not playing right now. Stephen Curry.
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: How can your name pay them?
[1:58:06] Speaker 2: No. You can't. John Moran. You can't. Derrick Rose. You can't.
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: They can't breathe him. Why are we getting so loud?
[1:58:13] Speaker 3: Why are we getting so loud?
[1:58:14] Speaker 2: Can we talk about reality? Here is reality, people. Why
[1:58:18] Speaker 2: are we getting so upset? We're talking calm. There's a
[1:58:21] Speaker 2: hundred and what?
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: 135 international players. There's a hundred and what?
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: Who he doing? 135. Nearly a third of the man.
[1:58:29] Speaker 3: I let you I didn't speak for 30 fucking minutes.
[1:58:31] Speaker 1: We know you When you get cooked just slow roast.
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: I'm gonna now here's reality.
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: There's a hundred white 135 international players.
[1:58:42] Speaker 3: 85% of them are what color? Just go wait, what
[1:58:48] Speaker 3: color do you think they are? Okay color, you know,
[1:58:50] Speaker 3: yeah color just I Those ships made a lot of
[1:58:54] Speaker 3: stuff when they came to America. So the difference between
[1:58:59] Speaker 3: reality and just narrative is there's 134 of them. The
[1:59:05] Speaker 3: difference is the guys that are in this league are
[1:59:10] Speaker 3: sitting at a certain height.
[1:59:12] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:59:13] Speaker 3: So what they're doing over there is they're breeding better.
[1:59:16] Speaker 3: They're breeding better. three, four, five, that's sitting at 6'10
[1:59:21] Speaker 3: to seven something. So majority, high 90% of the international
[1:59:27] Speaker 3: players that's in the NBA, their advantage is they are
[1:59:31] Speaker 3: 6'10 and above with guard skills. Our guards here have
[1:59:38] Speaker 3: guard skills, athleticism, speed that they can't keep up with.
[1:59:44] Speaker 3: What they're doing over there is we're teaching our bigs
[1:59:47] Speaker 3: to be bigs. They're teaching their guards to be guards.
[1:59:51] Speaker 3: So at an early age, Giannis, Jokic, Wagner, Tony Kukoc, Sabonis, Anderson. Yeah.
[2:00:01] Speaker 3: In their development, even though they're the tallest kid, they're
[2:00:04] Speaker 3: working on guard skills. They're working just like a point guard.
[2:00:08] Speaker 3: So if they do get tall, you see what they're doing.
[2:00:12] Speaker 3: So when you're looking at the game, we've seen Tony Kukoc,
[2:00:16] Speaker 3: we've seen Vlade Divac.
[2:00:17] Speaker 2: What skill did they have? Passing.
[2:00:20] Speaker 3: They can pass the ball, they can do all this.
[2:00:22] Speaker 3: We didn't understand it then. We didn't understand what they
[2:00:26] Speaker 3: were yet, but you can see the attributes that they had.
[2:00:29] Speaker 3: So bonus, we've seen the attributes that what he had.
[2:00:32] Speaker 3: We had a trickle loop. We've seen the advantage Turk has.
[2:00:37] Speaker 3: Someone got smart and said, wait a minute. If we
[2:00:42] Speaker 3: can put them at the 4-5, they can expand the court.
[2:00:45] Speaker 3: We have a whole different game. See, so we're taken
[2:00:50] Speaker 3: away from your just brute forwards that set screens that
[2:00:53] Speaker 3: do this. We want someone who can be a power
[2:00:57] Speaker 3: forward and a center that can play guard. Giannis, you're
[2:01:01] Speaker 3: not a traditional power forward. Fuck all that posting up.
[2:01:04] Speaker 3: Grab the ball and be our point forward for you
[2:01:08] Speaker 3: to have this advantage. Wagner, shit, you can be our
[2:01:11] Speaker 3: shooting guard because you can shoot the ball and defend.
[2:01:14] Speaker 3: That's the difference here. We just got to breathe better.
[2:01:18] Speaker 3: We got to sit here and breathe like they're breathing.
[2:01:20] Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out when the fuck did they
[2:01:22] Speaker 2: get so tall? But it's their height.
[2:01:25] Speaker 3: They're bringing over the height that we just can't keep
[2:01:27] Speaker 3: up with in.
[2:01:28] Speaker 2: Our, what's it at?
[2:01:29] Speaker 3: Our Cooper flag. Their Cooper flag, our Cooper flags, that's
[2:01:33] Speaker 3: all of them over there.
[2:01:33] Speaker 2: I know, I know. So don't you think we should
[2:01:35] Speaker 2: do that over here with our development?
[2:01:37] Speaker 3: Do that.
[2:01:37] Speaker 4: As far as like with AAU, the fact that now they're,
[2:01:40] Speaker 4: you know, like our big should be learning guard stuff.
[2:01:43] Speaker 3: Yes. I mean, but it is development. That's why when
[2:01:49] Speaker 3: you look at their five, it's the same people. When
[2:01:51] Speaker 3: we say, put ten of them together, you're trying to
[2:01:54] Speaker 3: put ten sinners.
[2:01:55] Speaker 2: Where's Bobo from? Same thing. He's Like I said, they
[2:02:00] Speaker 2: got the hype.
[2:02:01] Speaker 1: Like I said, y'all want to breathe, go get that snow.
[2:02:05] Speaker 2: It's snowing in Sweden, Oslo. You know what I'm saying?
[2:02:08] Speaker 2: Go over there to get some of that French shit
[2:02:10] Speaker 2: over there. It's a lot of shit you need to
[2:02:12] Speaker 2: be breathing with.
[2:02:13] Speaker 1: You want to get one of them nice little seven-footers
[2:02:15] Speaker 1: with a jump shot.
[2:02:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:02:17] Speaker 1: And on that note. I got a huge seven-footer.
[2:02:21] Speaker 2: I know.
[2:02:21] Speaker 3: I was going to say that. But you heard me
[2:02:23] Speaker 3: when I said you ain't got.
[2:02:24] Speaker 2: To go nowhere. You're fine. Yeah, I'm fine. because I
[2:02:27] Speaker 2: know him.
[2:02:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, you have 6'9, 6'10, jumping out the gym and shit.
[2:02:31] Speaker 2: You good. Yeah, yeah.
[2:02:33] Speaker 3: No, but that's why I said once you start paying
[2:02:35] Speaker 3: attention to the Euros, start watching Euro basketball and you
[2:02:38] Speaker 3: can see the other kid that's coming over.
[2:02:40] Speaker 2: What school he's at? The kid at Virginia Tech? No, no.
[2:02:44] Speaker 2: The 6'9 point guard. That looks like Luka?
[2:02:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: Goddamn. He's French. He's a French kid. Neo.
[2:02:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's what they're breeding. So their small forwards
[2:02:56] Speaker 3: can play real point guard. So when he comes here, he's.
[2:02:59] Speaker 2: A point guard at 6'9.
[2:03:00] Speaker 3: Like that's... And their skill set is very different. They
[2:03:05] Speaker 3: start working on it early. We have athleticism, so we
[2:03:09] Speaker 3: skip steps. Like, oh, I can dunk in eighth grade,
[2:03:12] Speaker 3: so forget.
[2:03:13] Speaker 2: All the small balls. That's why they cut out the school.
[2:03:15] Speaker 2: That's why they be cutting out the school. The tour days.
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: Over there. It's not the one, two, threes.
[2:03:22] Speaker 3: We're still dominant in that because of the speed and
[2:03:25] Speaker 3: the athleticism. That four and five where our speed and
[2:03:30] Speaker 3: athleticism matches theirs, they have skills.
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: They give them time. They give them time. It's learned.
[2:03:38] Speaker 2: They give them time. See that full circle?
[2:03:41] Speaker 3: You a funny nigga, man. You can't teach a motherfucker
[2:03:45] Speaker 3: to jump 40 inches.
[2:03:47] Speaker 2: That's genetics. Yeah. They call it a vertibax. I don't
[2:03:53] Speaker 2: give a fuck. What is it called? Plyometrics? It ain't
[2:03:56] Speaker 2: going to help. Plyometrics don't help. You can get about
[2:03:59] Speaker 2: an inch.
[2:04:00] Speaker 14: It ain't a part of science. They got a place
[2:04:03] Speaker 14: called P3 up there. They teach the plyometrics. Your son
[2:04:06] Speaker 14: do what? Cash is what? I don't give a fuck
[2:04:11] Speaker 14: how many calf raises my son do. He's not going
[2:04:14] Speaker 14: to put his head.
[2:04:14] Speaker 2: On the rim one day. Like you'll see.
[2:04:18] Speaker 5: And on that note, let us move on to Mostly Fans.
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[2:04:29] Speaker 5: Win or lose. So we have one question from Underdog
[2:04:33] Speaker 5: user J the HNIC25. Not to be confused with the
[2:04:38] Speaker 5: other 24 J the HNICs. J to H and I
[2:04:41] Speaker 5: see 25 said, of these calls, which one do the
[2:04:44] Speaker 5: refs avoid enforcing the most? Travel, moving pick, carry, or
[2:04:50] Speaker 5: over the back?
[2:04:51] Speaker 2: Carry. Carry. Carry. Carry for sure. You said what? Of
[2:04:58] Speaker 2: these calls, which one do refs avoid? Which one they
[2:05:02] Speaker 2: choose to overlook the most? Travel, moving pick, carry, or
[2:05:05] Speaker 2: over the back? Every position, you look at that motherfucker.
[2:05:10] Speaker 3: Back.
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: Nigga calling the play. They should take carrying out.
[2:05:13] Speaker 1: It changed the wording.
[2:05:15] Speaker 2: KD shit was so KD. R was today. No, R
[2:05:19] Speaker 2: carrying is the carry. I got one.
[2:05:22] Speaker 3: Better for you. How about three seconds? Never call that
[2:05:27] Speaker 3: shit offensively. Three seconds? When's the last time you seen
[2:05:32] Speaker 3: him do it?
[2:05:32] Speaker 2: I didn't know that. When that time you seen him call?
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: I forgot that was in high school. Rudy, when they
[2:05:38] Speaker 3: didn't pass on the ball, he just said that. I
[2:05:40] Speaker 3: would have did the same thing. I would have did
[2:05:41] Speaker 3: the same thing.
[2:05:41] Speaker 2: But I think it's Carey. He was you? Carey, yeah.
[2:05:45] Speaker 2: I think it's Carey. You know I would have. Because
[2:05:47] Speaker 2: they do it every, like, everybody dribbling that motherfucker. Traveling.
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: Everybody get that bitch Carey.
[2:05:52] Speaker 1: That man James Harden was traveling for like three years straight,
[2:05:54] Speaker 1: wasn't he?
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Nah. It was just him.
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: She was like, what is that? Yeah, but just a
[2:06:01] Speaker 1: man how many times he cared to get to the
[2:06:03] Speaker 1: trap man That's how many bring it didn't start pressing
[2:06:06] Speaker 1: them niggas will pick that big niggas start fucking up
[2:06:09] Speaker 1: the euro step Why don't they start fucking that shit up?
[2:06:12] Speaker 3: This shit here one two, three four. How you just
[2:06:15] Speaker 3: died five people with no run at you and.
[2:06:17] Speaker 2: Hesitate and pick hand up under that bitch and Like, no, that's...
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: Melo used to do that shit, too. KD, too. Yeah.
[2:06:25] Speaker 2: It's a carry, though.
[2:06:26] Speaker 1: As soon as you has it, as soon as your hand.
[2:06:29] Speaker 2: But if your hand's floating... It's on the stomach. Yeah,
[2:06:31] Speaker 2: it gotta be floating. But your nigga's hand's under the ball. Yeah.
[2:06:34] Speaker 2: All the way under the ball. Traveling. And then Melo
[2:06:37] Speaker 2: do that shit in New York and shot the three.
[2:06:39] Speaker 2: He ain't had a ball. That shit. Crazy.
[2:06:44] Speaker 5: And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, another productive week.
[2:06:47] Speaker 5: Hearing Gil Serena presented by Underdog Boop Boop.
[2:06:48] Speaker 2: Bro, it's 1.5. Man, what are we doing? What are
[2:06:51] Speaker 2: we doing, man? Yo, I'm on this bitch once a week.
[2:06:54] Speaker 2: Y'all give me short.
[2:06:55] Speaker 1: Times and shit, man.
[2:06:56] Speaker 2: God damn. These are our standard. God damn.
[2:07:00] Speaker 1: But all in all, appreciate you to everybody in the chat.
[2:07:04] Speaker 2: She's 15 minutes over.
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: Appreciate you to everybody on this couch. You work on
[2:07:07] Speaker 1: 10 here, Gil.
[2:07:09] Speaker 2: We work hard.
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: We work hard. Put niggas in the goddamn.
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[2:07:18] Speaker 2: 60, 20, and 30, so it's cool. You should start
[2:07:20] Speaker 2: selling those. It's cool.
[2:07:21] Speaker 1: We put up these stats regardless. At the stop sign.
[2:07:26] Speaker 1: Be out there with the crown. Like, I got these layers.
[2:07:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. I got, yeah. Warehouse5. com. Oh, okay. It's in the description. Okay.
[2:07:34] Speaker 5: And on that note, this has been another episode of
[2:07:37] Speaker 5: Gil's Arena. Presenting my underdog, Whoa, Whoa. We will see
[2:07:41] Speaker 5: y'all next week.

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