# Luka Doncic's Laker Introduction FIRES UP Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 4 Feb 2025, 2 h 42 min.

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Luka Doncic's Laker Introduction FIRES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & the Gil's Arena Crew react to react to Luka Doncic's first appearance with the Los Angeles Lakers in his introductory press conference following his unprecedented trade and give their take on Anthony Davis' Laker legacy following his heartfelt goodbye to the City of Angels, before setting off a debate over who is actually untouchable in an NBA that was just flipped upside down. Next, Gil's Arena react to the Golden State Warriors striking out on seemingly every superstar available this NBA Trade Deadline like Jimmy Butler & Zach Lavine and debate if the Dubs may get too desperate in their efforts to give Steph Curry a more competitive team in 2025 and beyond. They then react to another season with an All Star Snub for Trae Young and break down why the Atlanta Hawks point guard & most hated NBA Superstar continues to miss out on being named to the NBA All Star team before highlighting other All Star snubs like LaMelo Ball, Devin Booker and Kyrie Irving and debating who was the most deserving of an All Star nod. Finally, they give their takes on Zion Williamson being held out of back to backs by the New Orleans Pelicans and continue their discussion on whether or not the notorious big man will be the next NBA Superstar to be traded. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Rashad McCants, Nick Young & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2 Min Timer 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 Gil Steals Nick's Yellow Starburst 0:06:25 All-Star Snubs (Trae Young) 0:17:06 Does Kyle Korver Deserve To Be An All Star? 0:23:55 Does Steph Curry Deserve To Be An All Star? 0:43:47 Anthony Davis Says Goodbye To LA 1:07:01 Can AD Bring Dallas A Championship? 1:13:00 Luka's Laker Introduction 1:15:10 The Impact Of The Luka Trade On NBA Viewership 1:42:24 The Lakers Are Officially Luka's Team 1:57:45 The Sports World Reacts To The Luka Trade 2:08:25 Who Is Actually Untouchable? 2:11:35 MostlyFans 2:34:01 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa! Hold on, let me fix my Luka jersey.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Hold on. Okay. Disrespect the new face of the Lakers. Hey,
[0:12] Speaker 2: did you watch the press conference? Oh, man. A little
[0:14] Speaker 2: bit here and there. I was overcome with emotion. Emotional time.
[0:18] Speaker 2: He looked amazing, didn't he? You see that man look
[0:20] Speaker 2: amazing sitting there talking? So slender.
[0:22] Speaker 1: I don't know what 270 he looked like.
[0:24] Speaker 2: He looked all tight. You know, like this. Like a
[0:29] Speaker 2: bodybuilder or something. In shape.
[0:31] Speaker 1: I said, that's a man who wants to play defense
[0:33] Speaker 1: right there. Oh, shit.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Oh, man, that's an honorable white man. Oh, man. But
[0:38] Speaker 2: happy Black History Month to everybody. We continue bringing you
[0:41] Speaker 2: your favorite show.
[0:42] Speaker 1: We're going to have more on Luka in just a moment.
[0:46] Speaker 2: You know, against our will. Against our will.
[0:48] Speaker 1: You know, we still got the Lakers side of the couch.
[0:51] Speaker 2: Hey, man, this is L.A., you know what I mean?
[0:55] Speaker 3: L.A.
[0:55] Speaker 4: Is already number one for topic, so you just add
[0:59] Speaker 4: him in it.
[1:00] Speaker 2: Ollywood. Did you hear the question? What was the question?
[1:03] Speaker 2: It was beautiful.
[1:04] Speaker 4: Have you ever seen this many people in a press conference?
[1:08] Speaker 2: He said, I've never had this many.
[1:10] Speaker 4: I've never had this many people asking me questions.
[1:14] Speaker 2: We just want to.
[1:14] Speaker 5: Show you support.
[1:15] Speaker 1: We just want to show you support.
[1:17] Speaker 5: I was down there in the building.
[1:19] Speaker 2: I watched it, so it was like I'm there. I've
[1:22] Speaker 2: never watched a press conference.
[1:23] Speaker 5: Who watch press conferences?
[1:24] Speaker 2: So skinny, skinny.
[1:25] Speaker 4: We thought it was a future move, and we think
[1:27] Speaker 4: it is for the future, of course, but the fact
[1:29] Speaker 4: that this man gonna play at least 10 more years,
[1:33] Speaker 4: it's crazy.
[1:37] Speaker 2: Ah, man. You know what I'm saying?
[1:38] Speaker 4: The fact that they did it, you don't really... till
[1:41] Speaker 4: you start actually saying it.
[1:43] Speaker 5: A lot.
[1:44] Speaker 2: It's crazy. You listen to all the fluff that's going around. Yeah.
[1:48] Speaker 5: All right. Oh, he didn't do this? Yeah, really.
[1:49] Speaker 2: That's why I said it.
[1:50] Speaker 1: He was drinking up all the sweet tea after practice.
[1:53] Speaker 4: Like, in the chat, I'm like, yo, Lee, like, this
[1:55] Speaker 4: man finna be on one. I really believe, like, he
[1:59] Speaker 4: about to be on one.
[2:00] Speaker 2: God is good. Gonna be. He's been on one. A
[2:02] Speaker 2: little motivation. It can't stop. It ain't just to get
[2:06] Speaker 2: bigger than you. It's a pin. You're good at basketball.
[2:09] Speaker 2: First team fat man? Cool. All right. Looks skinny to me.
[2:14] Speaker 1: I could jump into it now. We can wait.
[2:15] Speaker 2: We're going to wait. We're going to save it. We
[2:17] Speaker 2: can wait.
[2:18] Speaker 1: This is a little tease before we get into it.
[2:20] Speaker 2: I like it. A little appetizer, if you will.
[2:22] Speaker 5: I like it. You know, a little appetizer.
[2:24] Speaker 2: But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo.
[2:26] Speaker 2: As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[2:28] Speaker 6: Here we go.
[2:30] Speaker 2: You got NBA champion of the world, former Laker, the
[2:33] Speaker 2: same team that Luka Doncic now plays on. Swaggy P,
[2:36] Speaker 2: Nick Young in the building. My dog. Champion. Champion. I
[2:42] Speaker 2: recognize that chip now. That's the champion right here.
[2:45] Speaker 1: I recognize this chip.
[2:47] Speaker 5: I know why you like yellow Starburst. My dog.
[2:50] Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that in a second, too.
[2:52] Speaker 2: We got former number one pick.
[2:54] Speaker 1: The bully from Oak Cliff, Texas, Kenya Martin, back here
[2:57] Speaker 1: with us. Not a Mavs fan, so was not impacted
[3:02] Speaker 1: by the Luka trade.
[3:02] Speaker 2: To the Lakers. They suck when I was a kid, too,
[3:06] Speaker 2: so that's why. They were ass when I was a kid.
[3:10] Speaker 2: Is that Jimmy Jackson? No, that was when I was
[3:12] Speaker 2: in high school.
[3:14] Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh.
[3:15] Speaker 2: For that. Rolando Blackman and Eric Harper and all that?
[3:18] Speaker 4: They was ass. Brad Davis, Dwight. Yeah, they was terrible.
[3:23] Speaker 4: And last but not least, we got the man known
[3:24] Speaker 4: as Cemetery Larry. Rashad McCants in the building.
[3:30] Speaker 2: Shot. See you in the I hate sneakers shirt. I
[3:32] Speaker 2: don't know. Is that... That's a middle finger? Is that
[3:35] Speaker 2: where Luka ranks right now?
[3:37] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[3:37] Speaker 2: In terms of face of the league. Number one.
[3:39] Speaker 1: That's what he's telling everybody, huh?
[3:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, number one. Laker fans. Even AI agree. Before we
[3:46] Speaker 2: start the show, though. Laker fans.
[3:47] Speaker 5: See what we did to AI.
[3:51] Speaker 2: While being a Laker fan. That's the funny part. It's crazy.
[3:55] Speaker 2: It's crazy. I never... while being the Lakers. Shai, come home.
[3:59] Speaker 2: There's still room on that bandwagon for you.
[4:01] Speaker 4: That Corsi boy had Corsi season tickets.
[4:04] Speaker 2: Pointing up to the sky. I hope y'all prepared for today.
[4:06] Speaker 2: With the crowd. No, we're prepared.
[4:08] Speaker 1: We're going to convert you. I feel like we broke
[4:11] Speaker 1: your spirit yesterday. We want you to build back up today.
[4:14] Speaker 1: Yesterday was a tough day.
[4:16] Speaker 2: You were like, I did this research today.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Today I'm going to ease up, but God damn it,
[4:21] Speaker 1: don't piss me off.
[4:22] Speaker 2: Before we get into our usual show, we got to
[4:24] Speaker 2: talk about something that happened before the show today. Nick,
[4:27] Speaker 2: you had some starbursts lined out as you traditionally do
[4:29] Speaker 2: before a show. Had a bunch of reds. But what
[4:32] Speaker 2: happened when Gil walked in?
[4:33] Speaker 5: I never heard somebody see a bunch of red starbursts
[4:38] Speaker 5: and skip past them and say, hey, man, can you
[4:39] Speaker 5: give me that yellow starburst right there?
[4:43] Speaker 2: I was mad.
[4:43] Speaker 5: I'm like, dog, damn, I got three. You think I
[4:46] Speaker 5: got to give him my red starbursts? But he said, nah, nah,
[4:49] Speaker 5: I want that yellow starburst. That right there, that's what
[4:52] Speaker 5: I knew.
[4:53] Speaker 1: He was crazy.
[4:53] Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, yeah.
[4:54] Speaker 2: The yellow one. A yellow star bird over four reds.
[4:57] Speaker 5: Four reds sitting right there.
[4:59] Speaker 1: No way.
[4:59] Speaker 2: Hey, brother, can you type that white man for me?
[5:01] Speaker 2: Same thing! Same thing! That's what I was going to
[5:04] Speaker 2: do with Luka. Hey, Brian, Brian, Brian and Brian, can
[5:06] Speaker 2: you type that white man right there for me? My
[5:09] Speaker 2: kids want a picture. Brian and Brian. Both of y'all.
[5:14] Speaker 2: My kids want a picture. They want a picture. They
[5:17] Speaker 2: already got y'all a picture. Go ahead. Y'all move.
[5:19] Speaker 4: We've been seeing you for 20 years.
[5:22] Speaker 2: Watch out! Like they did Babyface on the Grammy red carpet. Oh,
[5:26] Speaker 2: excuse me. Oh, look at here now.
[5:28] Speaker 1: Didn't they just do that to fucking on the Grammy carpet?
[5:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, Babyface. Babyface, man.
[5:33] Speaker 5: Hey, Babyface.
[5:34] Speaker 2: That was that. Hey, Babyface. You don't disrespect Babyface.
[5:37] Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey.
[5:37] Speaker 2: Move out of the way.
[5:38] Speaker 1: Watch out.
[5:39] Speaker 2: Hey, white girl, we don't know what your name is.
[5:41] Speaker 2: Come on over here. Shut up. Babyface. Hey, come on
[5:43] Speaker 2: over here. We want you. Hey, Babyface. It's these young-ass generation, man.
[5:47] Speaker 2: Go get some coffee. Go get some coffee. Yellow's good.
[5:49] Speaker 2: Those fucking kids, man. Who like yellow? Who like yellow? Nothing. Nothing.
[5:54] Speaker 5: Who like yellow, though, over red? You gotta understand, you
[5:56] Speaker 5: ain't never, dang.
[5:57] Speaker 2: Strawberry, cherry, berry. Do you eat lemons or strawberries?
[6:02] Speaker 5: Like, which one? Which one do you prefer?
[6:03] Speaker 2: It's not the same. It's a different flavor. Candy is
[6:05] Speaker 2: not the same. It's supposed to represent that.
[6:07] Speaker 1: But it doesn't.
[6:08] Speaker 2: You know what it represents? That being sour?
[6:10] Speaker 4: The red.
[6:10] Speaker 2: The red. See, I go to pack in a row.
[6:14] Speaker 2: I go in a row. I'm not going to deviate.
[6:16] Speaker 2: I eat them.
[6:16] Speaker 5: Like me, I see the room.
[6:17] Speaker 2: Red, pink, orange, yellow. Orange and yellow. I'm not going
[6:22] Speaker 2: to be.
[6:23] Speaker 4: Like, no, I don't like that flavor. I don't like
[6:26] Speaker 4: that flavor. Like, no, I'm going through the pack now.
[6:29] Speaker 2: I'm snowing.
[6:30] Speaker 5: I really say like the orange and yellow is like
[6:33] Speaker 5: the last until I have to eat them.
[6:35] Speaker 1: Oh, you give them away.
[6:36] Speaker 5: Really?
[6:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
[6:37] Speaker 2: But yellow is Lakers' color.
[6:39] Speaker 4: How about M & M' s?
[6:40] Speaker 2: Them the dudes that don't eat vegetables. They know what
[6:42] Speaker 2: I'm saying. Oh, I was going to say.
[6:44] Speaker 1: I was going to say, I don't want those in there.
[6:47] Speaker 2: We're going to eat all of them.
[6:48] Speaker 4: Them the dudes that don't eat vegetables. Go get fried rice.
[6:50] Speaker 4: Tell them no vegetables with fried rice and shit like that.
[6:53] Speaker 5: Right?
[6:54] Speaker 1: No, no, somebody's like, no peas and carrots in my food.
[6:57] Speaker 2: It depends on where we at. Exactly, see? It depends
[6:59] Speaker 2: on where we at. Don't drink water.
[7:01] Speaker 4: If you do no vegetables, they got to make a
[7:05] Speaker 4: whole new batch of them.
[7:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[7:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right.
[7:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to send a dude to P.A. Change
[7:12] Speaker 4: and all that, go get food and all that, dude,
[7:14] Speaker 4: get fried rice and no vegetables.
[7:15] Speaker 2: What type you grown up with don't eat vegetables? You
[7:19] Speaker 2: don't even, it's not like you taste it.
[7:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, them the same dudes you gotta quit that don't
[7:22] Speaker 4: drink water. Them the dudes that want Gatorade in their
[7:25] Speaker 4: water bottles, drink soda with every meal and juice.
[7:29] Speaker 1: My homie eat in and out with no cheese on
[7:31] Speaker 1: the burger.
[7:34] Speaker 2: That's you back there? That's him back there. Just plain
[7:36] Speaker 2: burger and bread. I said, boy.
[7:42] Speaker 1: I said, how you not get the cheese?
[7:43] Speaker 2: It's the crack.
[7:44] Speaker 5: Yes.
[7:45] Speaker 2: You just needling. You just needling. You ain't got nothing
[7:49] Speaker 2: in there. You just like the meat.
[7:50] Speaker 1: You ain't got no tourniquet in there.
[7:52] Speaker 2: You searching. There ain't no juice in there, bro. You
[7:55] Speaker 2: got to get the cheese. You just needling. Not a chance.
[8:00] Speaker 2: Double burger with cheese. With cheese.
[8:02] Speaker 1: With cheese. Not a double cheeseburger. A double burger with cheese.
[8:07] Speaker 2: If I don't have cheese, I can't eat that. Let
[8:09] Speaker 2: me get a double burger with cheese.
[8:11] Speaker 1: Medicine cheese. Yeah, that's not good. We're talking burgers and shit.
[8:15] Speaker 2: We're distracted from more important conversations we need to have,
[8:18] Speaker 2: particularly a Caucasian gentleman that made his way to the
[8:22] Speaker 2: Lakers today. We'll talk about that in just a moment.
[8:24] Speaker 2: But for all the fans out there, we still got
[8:26] Speaker 2: two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, Mobile vertical version.
[8:29] Speaker 2: Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure
[8:30] Speaker 2: you support the show. And Luca, please pull up. We
[8:33] Speaker 2: got a spot for you. We got the jersey already,
[8:35] Speaker 2: fresh off the press. And some of y'all ghost watching, subscribe. Subscribe.
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[8:43] Speaker 7: Just subscribe. You watch it already. If you don't like
[8:47] Speaker 7: this shit, subscribe. We got to fudge the algorithm. Appreciate
[8:54] Speaker 7: to everybody out there. Our biggest show ever yesterday.
[8:56] Speaker 2: We had over 85,000 people in the chat. We secured
[9:00] Speaker 2: our suite for the Lakers-Mavs game. Underdog, don't think we forgot.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Break bread. February 25th.
[9:05] Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday. You talk about the current number, though.
[9:08] Speaker 1: The current number is kind of crazy.
[9:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:11] Speaker 5: 800 almost.
[9:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, basic.
[9:13] Speaker 5: It's crazy.
[9:15] Speaker 1: Not even 24 hours?
[9:16] Speaker 2: Mm-mm.
[9:17] Speaker 1: They trying.
[9:18] Speaker 2: They be trying. Oh, average.
[9:19] Speaker 1: They be trying.
[9:20] Speaker 2: Average night. They be trying. In the arena. But here's
[9:22] Speaker 2: what's cracking in the arena today. Lucas Trey to the
[9:26] Speaker 2: Lakers sent shockwaves through the basketball and sports world. Which
[9:30] Speaker 2: superstars around the league are actually untouchable? And we will
[9:33] Speaker 2: have some sound from his press conference today. We see
[9:36] Speaker 2: Rob Palenka with the slender leather jacket. Okay, look at him.
[9:40] Speaker 2: Looking very Metro. We respect it. The Warriors are reportedly
[9:44] Speaker 2: working the phones trying to land a star before the deadline.
[9:47] Speaker 2: But are the Dubs too thirsty to try and get
[9:50] Speaker 2: a deal done? They are cooked. The dynasty is officially over.
[9:53] Speaker 2: And the 2025 NBA All-Star teams are set. Which players
[9:56] Speaker 2: deserve the love? Which ones got snubbed? We see LaMelo
[9:59] Speaker 2: up there. the most famous ball brother.
[10:02] Speaker 1: No longer.
[10:02] Speaker 2: That is Jello. But nonetheless, should have been in the
[10:05] Speaker 2: All-Star game. Before we get into all that, the best
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[10:31] Speaker 2: 1.5 three-pointers made. Knicks at the Raptors. After losing to
[10:35] Speaker 2: the Lakers, did defeat the Rockets last night. Did defeat
[10:37] Speaker 2: the Rockets. Six of their last seven games. Of course,
[10:40] Speaker 2: that game that they did not win against LeBron in
[10:45] Speaker 2: the Lakers squad. You got Josh Hart, higher, 15.5 rebounds
[10:48] Speaker 2: and assists. Certified triple-double machine. Kawhi Leonard, higher, 18.5 points. Obviously,
[10:56] Speaker 2: Lakers take on the Clippers tonight. Not really the bad
[10:59] Speaker 2: of LA because Luka will not be playing in the game.
[11:01] Speaker 2: But nonetheless, still on the schedule, so you got to
[11:04] Speaker 2: play it. And Ivica Zubac, higher, 14.5 rebounds and assists
[11:09] Speaker 2: in that game tonight.
[11:11] Speaker 5: Oh, Clippers play the Lakers tonight. Yeah, sure.
[11:15] Speaker 2: They do. Well, the almost Lakers.
[11:18] Speaker 1: Almost Lakers.
[11:19] Speaker 2: Not the Luka. Not the Lukas, the Lakers.
[11:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, he going to get a couple assists, hitting him
[11:25] Speaker 4: in the pocket, corner, Norman Powell over there, motherfucker.
[11:30] Speaker 1: Oh, LeBron going to be guarding Kawhi, huh? No.
[11:32] Speaker 5: Nah.
[11:32] Speaker 4: No?
[11:33] Speaker 2: They're going to have.
[11:35] Speaker 5: They're going Jones.
[11:36] Speaker 2: Black and white. Yeah, they're going to have.
[11:38] Speaker 1: They're going to have the best player on the best player?
[11:40] Speaker 5: Nah. All right.
[11:41] Speaker 2: All right.
[11:43] Speaker 1: It changes my perspective on this pick.
[11:47] Speaker 2: The best player? Well, yeah. Technically, right now. Yeah, right now.
[11:51] Speaker 4: The Lakers' number one option currently. Yeah, because he on
[11:54] Speaker 4: limited time out there. He be getting to it. Is
[11:57] Speaker 4: Kawhi on limited time? Yeah, he be getting to it.
[12:00] Speaker 4: They be featuring like he getting to it.
[12:03] Speaker 2: And he efficient. Yeah, they going to kill the Lakers.
[12:05] Speaker 5: 20-something in the first half. That's what everybody said about
[12:08] Speaker 5: the Knicks. That's a good pick right there. They said
[12:10] Speaker 5: that about the Knicks game Saturday. We saw what happened.
[12:12] Speaker 2: We got to energize, revitalize Lakers squad. J.J. Redick amped up.
[12:16] Speaker 1: Josh Hart might probably, just because he been playing good
[12:19] Speaker 1: the last three games. He's just so iffy, man.
[12:22] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading
[12:24] Speaker 2: your picks tonight, Kenyon. 63% said they are riding with
[12:27] Speaker 2: you tonight. They support you. You can win nine times
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[12:51] Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. So we're going to talk
[12:53] Speaker 2: Luke in a moment. There's other things going on around
[12:55] Speaker 2: the NBA we're going to discuss. So all-star Cade Cunningham
[12:58] Speaker 2: and the Pistons hosted recent all-star snub Trey Young in
[13:02] Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks Monday night. But it was Trey who
[13:04] Speaker 2: got the last laugh in that game. Let's take a look.
[13:08] Speaker 2: As time was winding down, Trey did his thing. Oh,
[13:15] Speaker 2: step back.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Don't step over him, Trey. Don't step over him. Oh,
[13:19] Speaker 1: my goodness. He stepped over him. Stepped over him. He
[13:23] Speaker 1: stepped over that man. Gave the Hawks the lead with
[13:25] Speaker 1: just under two seconds remaining. And kept stepping on him.
[13:28] Speaker 1: Turned out to be the difference in the game. Shout out, Trey.
[13:31] Speaker 1: But it takes me to my next point. So last Thursday,
[13:33] Speaker 1: NBA announced the NBA All-Star Game Reserves, which was a
[13:36] Speaker 1: week after the All-Star starters were announced. So let's take
[13:39] Speaker 1: a look at the 12 players from each conference who.
[13:41] Speaker 2: Made the cut. So we see the list. We're in
[13:44] Speaker 2: the West. We got Steph, KD, SGA, LeBron. Joker AD,
[13:47] Speaker 2: who's now on the Mavs, no longer on the Lakers.
[13:50] Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, James Harden, Jaren Jackson Jr., Shane Goon, Wimby,
[13:54] Speaker 2: future Laker, and Jalen Williams. And on the East, Giannis Brunson,
[13:58] Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, Jason Tatum, Cat, Jalen Brown, Cade, Darius Garland,
[14:02] Speaker 2: Tyler Hero, Dame, Evan Mobley, Pascal Siakam. So looking at
[14:08] Speaker 2: that list, see a lot of great names on there.
[14:10] Speaker 2: Shout out to them. But one name we do not
[14:12] Speaker 2: see is Trae Young. So let's take a look at
[14:16] Speaker 2: some of the other snubs from the 2025 All-Star Game.
[14:20] Speaker 2: Players who were probably deserving but did not make the cut.
[14:24] Speaker 2: So some notable names. You got Trey LaMelo, Tyrese Maxey, Frogner,
[14:28] Speaker 2: as Gil likes to say, Tyrese Halliburton. West side, you
[14:32] Speaker 2: got Sabonis, Kern Spur, De'Aaron Fox, Kyrie, Norm Powell, who
[14:36] Speaker 2: a lot of us on this couch felt like were deserving,
[14:38] Speaker 2: and D-Book. League leaders in assists per game and rebounds
[14:41] Speaker 2: per game are not All-Stars. Shout-out to underdog NBA. It's crazy. Yeah.
[14:47] Speaker 2: So after the All-Star reserves were announced, Ice Trey took
[14:50] Speaker 2: to Twitter to voice his frustration with getting snubbed yet again.
[14:54] Speaker 2: He was frustrated. He said, and is no longer getting snubbed,
[14:56] Speaker 2: is getting Trey at this point. Laughing emoji. Sorry to
[15:00] Speaker 2: my fans. It'll change eventually. All right. Talk soon. So
[15:05] Speaker 2: as you look at that, do you understand Trey Young's
[15:06] Speaker 2: frustration with getting snubbed from the All-Star game yet again?
[15:10] Speaker 1: What are you going to do about it?
[15:11] Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do about it. Come to the Lakers. Yeah,
[15:15] Speaker 2: but So at the.
[15:16] Speaker 4: Time that this stuff went out, right, that they made
[15:19] Speaker 4: the decision, so Cade made it. Tyler Hero made it.
[15:26] Speaker 4: At the time, them teams had two more wins than
[15:29] Speaker 4: Trae Young. Like, so all of them in the same boat.
[15:35] Speaker 4: So this man leading the league and it says double-double.
[15:40] Speaker 4: They could be Dame had four more wins than them.
[15:49] Speaker 4: He's doing more for his team. Tyler Hero, from five
[15:55] Speaker 4: to nine, right now, there's only three games separating.
[15:59] Speaker 2: The win column. Between how many teams? Four teams? Five, six, seven, eight, nine, yes.
[16:06] Speaker 2: So Milwaukee, Miami, Detroit, Orlando, Atlanta.
[16:10] Speaker 1: And then between those teams, the guys who made it.
[16:13] Speaker 2: Dane made it.
[16:13] Speaker 1: Cade made it.
[16:14] Speaker 2: Cade made it. Tyler Hero made it. Who's at the
[16:18] Speaker 2: bottom of that list? What team? Cade. Cade is in seventh.
[16:23] Speaker 2: They got 25 wins. Charlotte. Charlotte is below that.
[16:26] Speaker 1: That's why Mello.
[16:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they didn't make it. So Mello led
[16:30] Speaker 2: Eastern Conference guards in fan votes, I think was ranked
[16:33] Speaker 2: third amongst players.
[16:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, that I understand. They got 12 wins. Apparently a
[16:36] Speaker 1: league not a fan of Tweeker. But the other, but Trey.
[16:39] Speaker 1: Where's Miami ranked right? Where they seven, eight? They six
[16:42] Speaker 1: right now. They six?
[16:43] Speaker 5: They six?
[16:44] Speaker 2: But they 24 and 23. Yeah, they like all tied
[16:47] Speaker 2: for like.
[16:47] Speaker 1: It's a nasty.
[16:48] Speaker 2: The nasty east. The nasty east.
[16:49] Speaker 4: So this man averaging a double-double, like what more do
[16:53] Speaker 4: we have to do in the first half of the season?
[16:55] Speaker 5: Hero is a pack call, I think.
[16:57] Speaker 4: No.
[16:57] Speaker 5: Is it?
[16:58] Speaker 2: Hell no. That's an OG call.
[16:59] Speaker 1: Before a maxi call and a Trey call after five
[17:01] Speaker 1: years of no Trey?
[17:02] Speaker 4: They got more wins than them, so. I get, Phil,
[17:06] Speaker 4: I get. Tyrese not making it. I get LaMelo not
[17:09] Speaker 4: making it. But, I mean, I guess for me, LaMelo,
[17:14] Speaker 4: number one amongst fans.
[17:16] Speaker 1: That's how it is. When they change the whole metric
[17:18] Speaker 1: of how they look. But the fans are telling you
[17:20] Speaker 1: this is who they want. The brother of Jell-O Ball.
[17:22] Speaker 2: Hey, this is going to be, when is All-Star weekend?
[17:26] Speaker 2: Next weekend.
[17:26] Speaker 1: We will be there.
[17:28] Speaker 4: When Monday comes, it's going to be the worst All-Star viewing.
[17:33] Speaker 4: You know, the worst All-Star viewing ever.
[17:35] Speaker 2: Yes, once again. Once again.
[17:37] Speaker 1: Because you refuse to adjust and do it.
[17:40] Speaker 2: Listen, this is all-star weekend.
[17:43] Speaker 4: This is the star players. Fuck your winning system, right?
[17:50] Speaker 2: It is not about winning. It's about the best.
[17:52] Speaker 4: This is supposed to be the best game on earth,
[17:55] Speaker 4: meaning you have all your top honchos here.
[17:58] Speaker 2: Yep. Right? Facts. And the fans.
[18:01] Speaker 8: Half of this list is fucking second options and third
[18:03] Speaker 8: options on their team.
[18:05] Speaker 4: Ooh.
[18:06] Speaker 2: Like, they don't even... Like, I don't.
[18:08] Speaker 8: Give a fuck what your second option number... You are
[18:11] Speaker 8: a second option player.
[18:13] Speaker 1: Sangoon.
[18:13] Speaker 8: Meaning, if this is a car, you're not driving this team.
[18:18] Speaker 2: You are a passenger.
[18:20] Speaker 4: Passengers can do whatever the fuck they want, right? Well,
[18:22] Speaker 4: I take offense to that.
[18:22] Speaker 1: Right?
[18:23] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[18:23] Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't. Right? Because I was the second option
[18:26] Speaker 2: on my team. Who was the first option? J. Kidd.
[18:28] Speaker 2: But you were Kenyon Martin. No, he was a passer.
[18:30] Speaker 5: That's not the first option.
[18:31] Speaker 2: Passer's not the first option. It's a score. So you're
[18:33] Speaker 2: the first option. He's the second option. Like Carmelone and J.
[18:35] Speaker 5: Kidd.
[18:36] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Carmelone and John Stockton.
[18:38] Speaker 5: Right?
[18:39] Speaker 8: So if you're a second option guy, there's second option
[18:42] Speaker 8: and third options.
[18:45] Speaker 2: No one's coming to see you. I'm sorry.
[18:49] Speaker 5: But a lot of guys.
[18:54] Speaker 2: Fuck that record. That's true. The fans are coming to
[18:58] Speaker 2: see him. How does Ja not make it? He is
[19:03] Speaker 2: the best player.
[19:05] Speaker 8: We've seen what happened when he wasn't playing. Nobody knew
[19:08] Speaker 8: where the fuck Memphis was. We all forgot like it
[19:11] Speaker 8: was in Baghdad somewhere.
[19:13] Speaker 2: Right?
[19:13] Speaker 4: There wasn't no direct flights no more.
[19:15] Speaker 2: You had to drop the Tennessee drop. Like, that was
[19:18] Speaker 2: happening when he left.
[19:19] Speaker 8: So the fact that he's not there, I don't give
[19:21] Speaker 8: a fuck what your system is. You put the best
[19:24] Speaker 8: players in for the best results.
[19:27] Speaker 4: You have a bunch of people in here. Listen, you
[19:29] Speaker 4: guys made it in their metrics. But I'm sorry, no
[19:34] Speaker 4: one comes to the regular season to see you. They
[19:36] Speaker 4: come for the guy that's in front of you. We
[19:38] Speaker 4: come to see him.
[19:39] Speaker 2: We don't come to see you.
[19:40] Speaker 8: No one say, oh, my God, I can't wait to
[19:42] Speaker 8: see the third option. I don't give a shit how
[19:45] Speaker 8: many wins you got.
[19:46] Speaker 2: Can I play Devils?
[19:47] Speaker 4: So the viewership is down because you didn't put the
[19:50] Speaker 4: guys who the fans actually voted for. The people that
[19:53] Speaker 4: can't afford to go to the game, they still want
[19:56] Speaker 4: to watch it on TV. So they voted for LaMelo, right?
[19:59] Speaker 5: Yep.
[19:59] Speaker 2: They not fucking watch it because you didn't put that
[20:01] Speaker 2: guy in. It's that one, but the other ones, it's
[20:03] Speaker 2: always been like that. Yeah, that's what I was about
[20:05] Speaker 2: to say.
[20:05] Speaker 1: We got to go back to what the original metric
[20:08] Speaker 1: is of what the all-star voting process was. It was
[20:11] Speaker 1: who's having an all-star type year. Who's having an all-star
[20:14] Speaker 1: type year. So certain guys made all-star elections because they
[20:18] Speaker 1: was having certain types of years. And it wasn't because
[20:21] Speaker 1: of the highlight version of the other side, like the
[20:24] Speaker 1: top guys. The first five guys, the top ten guys,
[20:27] Speaker 1: they're going to start, they're going to be the guys
[20:28] Speaker 1: we come to see, of course. But the reserves might
[20:32] Speaker 1: make it because they have an all-star type. Glenn Rice,
[20:35] Speaker 1: all those type of guys. Mitch Richmond. Them are guys that...
[20:40] Speaker 1: They're number one option. They were having all-star type seasons.
[20:43] Speaker 2: They were number one option.
[20:44] Speaker 1: So what you're saying now is take away the guys
[20:46] Speaker 1: who are playing good NBA all-star type seasons and saying, regardless...
[20:50] Speaker 1: This dude, he averaging 18. Like, what's Ja's numbers right
[20:55] Speaker 1: now in comparison to the people that got picked over him?
[20:57] Speaker 5: It's like, all right.
[20:58] Speaker 2: You're like 20.
[20:59] Speaker 1: You ain't 25. Yeah. Maxie should have the biggest argument
[21:03] Speaker 1: right now.
[21:04] Speaker 2: Career high point per game average for Maxie. So, Josh's
[21:06] Speaker 2: average of 21, 8, 4 rebounds. Played 29 games this season.
[21:09] Speaker 1: 21, 8, 4. Those are solid team numbers. He said
[21:11] Speaker 1: he understand what I mean.
[21:12] Speaker 2: Team numbers. Those are solid team numbers. We got to play.
[21:15] Speaker 2: Second number. Second player. But the fans should matter, though. Yeah,
[21:17] Speaker 2: of course. The fans should matter. The fans should matter.
[21:20] Speaker 2: I said it first. The top 10, though. For this,
[21:22] Speaker 2: the fans should matter. Like they did with Kobe. The
[21:25] Speaker 2: top 10, the fans should matter.
[21:26] Speaker 5: But it's always been.
[21:27] Speaker 4: No, but even on the reserves, right, the reserve, your
[21:31] Speaker 4: team record.
[21:34] Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter.
[21:35] Speaker 4: Your team record has nothing to do with you as
[21:38] Speaker 4: an all-star.
[21:41] Speaker 5: We got a motherfucker who averaged 12 points.
[21:44] Speaker 2: Kyle Korver.
[21:45] Speaker 4: There's no way on no planet of Earth that he's
[21:48] Speaker 4: an all-star in no type of league.
[21:51] Speaker 2: I don't give a... He's averaging 12.
[21:54] Speaker 4: You're telling me if we go through the NBA, you
[21:56] Speaker 4: can't find 150 people better than him? but his record's
[22:02] Speaker 4: number one, so they want to pull three people?
[22:04] Speaker 2: Fuck that. That's why nobody want to watch. That's why nobody.
[22:08] Speaker 5: Respects that shit.
[22:09] Speaker 4: Nobody respects that shit. You think a motherfucker who averaged
[22:14] Speaker 4: 29 points and his team sucks is looking at a
[22:17] Speaker 4: motherfucker who is no option on his team, no scout.
[22:20] Speaker 2: Just call him over. And he's making an all.
[22:24] Speaker 4: You're not winning because of you.
[22:26] Speaker 2: Not because of you. No, you're not. You're averaging 12.
[22:30] Speaker 2: You're winning because of me. If I'm starting every game
[22:33] Speaker 2: and we're winning.
[22:34] Speaker 5: Did you make all-star team, Nick? Did you make all-star team? No,
[22:36] Speaker 5: but you were winning.
[22:38] Speaker 1: So you said Kyle Korver better than you?
[22:40] Speaker 2: It don't matter. He's winning. Answer the question. I said
[22:45] Speaker 2: we were winning. You were winning. Is he winning because
[22:50] Speaker 2: of him? Who is he winning because of?
[22:53] Speaker 1: But you asked him is he better than Kyle Korver, right?
[22:56] Speaker 1: He averaged more points than Kyle Korver. Now, this is
[22:58] Speaker 1: the difference. Kyle Korver had a better season than Nick did.
[23:02] Speaker 2: No, he did not.
[23:03] Speaker 1: That can say that Kyle Korver's having an all-star.
[23:06] Speaker 2: With Atlanta, and they was winning. But he shot 50-49. Nigga,
[23:10] Speaker 2: that year with Atlanta, he was killing. He had four people.
[23:13] Speaker 2: I feel like Jamal Crawford.
[23:15] Speaker 5: I feel like Jamal Crawford.
[23:17] Speaker 2: They had four people in the all-star. You know why?
[23:21] Speaker 2: Because they did it with Detroit.
[23:23] Speaker 1: They did it because they did it with Detroit. They
[23:25] Speaker 1: did it with them because they did it with Detroit.
[23:26] Speaker 2: They didn't deserve it. It don't matter. The team wins.
[23:30] Speaker 2: Put them in because they did it. They did it
[23:32] Speaker 2: in Detroit. That's why they did it again.
[23:34] Speaker 5: They did it with the Warriors. They did it with
[23:36] Speaker 5: the Warriors.
[23:36] Speaker 2: They did it with the Warriors. So I'm just going
[23:38] Speaker 2: to read this for you. 2015 NBA All-Star Game.
[23:40] Speaker 1: 2015 NBA All-Star Game with Kyle Korver was named the
[23:47] Speaker 1: injury replacement. He was brought on to replace Dwyane Wade.
[23:50] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck! I don't give a fuck!
[23:52] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[23:54] Speaker 2: Dwyane Wade can't play, so who we gonna get? Kyle Korver.
[23:57] Speaker 4: That's like calling Derek White to go play in the
[24:00] Speaker 4: fucking Olympics.
[24:05] Speaker 2: Over, over, over, over all the guys. Yeah, over 50 motherfuckers.
[24:09] Speaker 2: That's like calling Darren Wilder over his finals. Somebody got
[24:13] Speaker 2: to score on the ass team. Or Christian Lakers get
[24:17] Speaker 2: on the fucking dream team. Somebody got to score. Get
[24:20] Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. Let's stop it.
[24:22] Speaker 5: And a lot of these motherfuckers, when they go to
[24:23] Speaker 5: good teams, they beat Bradley Beal, so you can't say that.
[24:26] Speaker 5: Somebody got to score on a good team. On a
[24:28] Speaker 5: bad team, I mean. They got to shoot. So you
[24:31] Speaker 5: don't reward bad things. You don't reward bad shit. You
[24:35] Speaker 5: don't reward bad shit. Bradley Beal becomes an all-star.
[24:38] Speaker 2: Shit. Fatty Peele been an all-star. He come to Phoenix.
[24:41] Speaker 2: He got the lead in scoring. Because he was with
[24:42] Speaker 2: the Wizards. He's on a bad team. He's on a
[24:45] Speaker 2: bad team. That's what he's saying.
[24:46] Speaker 1: Ever since then, we ain't seen all-star Peele since.
[24:49] Speaker 2: You don't see all-star. What the fuck does that mean?
[24:53] Speaker 1: He had good seasons. He had good seasons, just like
[24:56] Speaker 1: Cal Corver. The only difference was he was not that good.
[24:59] Speaker 2: He averaged 12. He had a good season. Good season
[25:02] Speaker 2: for who? Himself? No, because he was with his team.
[25:04] Speaker 2: He goes from 10 to 12.
[25:05] Speaker 9: Your boy had a good season because he was with nobody.
[25:08] Speaker 2: 10, 12. Your dude went from 30 to 16. We're
[25:12] Speaker 2: talking about 30 to 16.
[25:12] Speaker 4: We're talking about at that moment in time.
[25:17] Speaker 2: His 18 is better than what he's out there. Thank you.
[25:21] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[25:22] Speaker 9: So he should make the All-Star game.
[25:25] Speaker 2: So he should make the All-Star.
[25:27] Speaker 5: Should he? Should he? Are you getting $ 250 million? Yeah,
[25:30] Speaker 5: he should.
[25:31] Speaker 2: But he ain't playing good ball.
[25:34] Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, though. Atlanta was number one, Gil.
[25:37] Speaker 5: Atlanta was number one.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[25:39] Speaker 1: Atlanta was number one. That's why Kyle Korver got the nod.
[25:43] Speaker 1: Phoenix is not number one.
[25:44] Speaker 2: We're not going to give Randy Gil that. So we
[25:47] Speaker 2: can't even say it. So 18 points.
[25:49] Speaker 5: So 18. I feel like Jamal Conner should have made it.
[25:52] Speaker 2: So 18 points.
[25:53] Speaker 1: Where was his numbers been?
[25:55] Speaker 2: More than fucking 12. I don't give a fuck what
[25:58] Speaker 2: it was. It was more than 12. It was more
[26:00] Speaker 2: than 12.
[26:00] Speaker 5: And he's the second option, not the fifth option. I
[26:03] Speaker 5: felt like Jamal Crawford should have made it. I felt
[26:05] Speaker 5: like Jamal Crawford.
[26:06] Speaker 2: So you want to know why?
[26:07] Speaker 5: You know why.
[26:08] Speaker 2: I don't care why. You know why. Is it Steph Curry?
[26:11] Speaker 2: He had a good season. Is it Steph Curry?
[26:13] Speaker 5: He had a good season.
[26:14] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He had a good season.
[26:16] Speaker 2: He had a good season. He had a good season.
[26:19] Speaker 2: He had a good season. He was the number one.
[26:21] Speaker 2: We talking about reserve, right? We talking about Kyle Korver
[26:24] Speaker 2: being a reserve.
[26:25] Speaker 8: Reserve.
[26:25] Speaker 2: Substitution. They called him reserve. They called him. Can Jamal
[26:29] Speaker 2: Murray be that? Why did they call Jamal Murray?
[26:31] Speaker 5: Can he?
[26:32] Speaker 2: He should have been.
[26:32] Speaker 5: Can he? Yes.
[26:33] Speaker 2: Why didn't they?
[26:35] Speaker 1: They ain't got nothing to do with me because they
[26:37] Speaker 1: called down Carver.
[26:38] Speaker 2: They called down Carver.
[26:40] Speaker 1: Hey, if this dude get hurt and we.
[26:42] Speaker 2: Don't call you, nigga, play better. Play better. Play better.
[26:46] Speaker 2: I hate these arguments, man. So we don't reward winning
[26:49] Speaker 2: no more. Winning don't give a fuck. What?
[26:51] Speaker 5: You're winning. Who's winning?
[26:52] Speaker 2: They are. Three people in front of me, man.
[26:55] Speaker 1: No.
[26:59] Speaker 2: No, you can't do that.
[27:00] Speaker 5: If I'm number one and you shooting every shot and
[27:02] Speaker 5: you're the last place, I'm going to give.
[27:04] Speaker 2: A fuck about that. Because you're doing it. You got
[27:06] Speaker 2: to shoot.
[27:07] Speaker 5: Somebody got to shoot.
[27:08] Speaker 2: Somebody got to shoot. Let's put this in car form.
[27:15] Speaker 4: The nigga who has a bad team and he's scoring,
[27:19] Speaker 4: he is the driver, right?
[27:22] Speaker 2: The second option is here. What is his responsibility? Auxiliary, right?
[27:28] Speaker 2: He's controlling that, huh? He going to be on the phone?
[27:31] Speaker 1: Whatever.
[27:32] Speaker 2: Maybe if I get tired, he can come in. Third option, backseat.
[27:36] Speaker 2: Fourth option, backseat.
[27:39] Speaker 8: Now, you're telling me these two motherfuckers who's never, ever
[27:44] Speaker 8: in their life Know the responsibility of driving a car
[27:49] Speaker 8: is making it over him? If you take Cal Korver
[27:53] Speaker 8: and put him on any team as the number one option,
[27:57] Speaker 8: the bitch.
[27:57] Speaker 2: Is going to average 12. He went to Creighton, and
[28:00] Speaker 2: he was the number one option.
[28:02] Speaker 1: Ask them how much he.
[28:04] Speaker 2: Averaged at Creighton as the number one option. Creighton. Creighton.
[28:08] Speaker 1: So don't say he never did it.
[28:09] Speaker 2: Because we can pull up to reference.
[28:13] Speaker 4: He's the number one.
[28:15] Speaker 2: Hey, I know what this feels like.
[28:17] Speaker 4: I know what this feels like.
[28:20] Speaker 2: But I know what it feel like.
[28:21] Speaker 5: A 50-40-90.
[28:21] Speaker 2: I know what it feel like.
[28:23] Speaker 1: I ain't been.
[28:25] Speaker 2: The number two option all my life. Go ahead and
[28:27] Speaker 2: do it. What do you average? So his senior year
[28:29] Speaker 2: at Creighton. Senior year. 18 points per game. Woo!
[28:33] Speaker 4: And he was the 51 pick in the second round.
[28:36] Speaker 5: Okay, that's nice.
[28:38] Speaker 2: He was the number one option on his team, bro.
[28:40] Speaker 2: He wasn't the number one option in the NBA. It
[28:42] Speaker 2: don't matter, but you know what it feels like. You
[28:44] Speaker 2: just asked a question. What happened if he was.
[28:46] Speaker 5: The number one?
[28:47] Speaker 2: We're talking about NBA. He would know exactly what to do.
[28:50] Speaker 2: He's never been a.
[28:51] Speaker 5: Winner because he's in the game.
[28:53] Speaker 3: He's never been the number one option.
[28:57] Speaker 2: Has he ever been the second option?
[28:59] Speaker 4: Has he ever been the second option? Has he ever
[29:03] Speaker 4: been the second option on his team?
[29:05] Speaker 2: It don't matter. It do matter. We're talking about the
[29:09] Speaker 2: fucking offense.
[29:09] Speaker 5: It's only about three superstars in the NBA. Everybody else
[29:14] Speaker 5: is not superstars.
[29:15] Speaker 2: There's 30 lead dogs, period. There's 30 lead dogs. And
[29:18] Speaker 2: then there's 30 second options. Did you play against Kyle Corver?
[29:25] Speaker 5: Yes.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Did you play against Kyle Corbin?
[29:27] Speaker 5: But still.
[29:28] Speaker 4: But still, you ain't even know what the fuck I'm
[29:30] Speaker 4: about to ask, motherfucker.
[29:32] Speaker 2: But still what?
[29:32] Speaker 4: You don't even know what the fuck I'm about to ask.
[29:35] Speaker 1: Go ahead, You got to be honest with yourself with
[29:37] Speaker 1: this question.
[29:38] Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with myself.
[29:40] Speaker 5: He sucked, right?
[29:40] Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with myself. I have a question.
[29:44] Speaker 2: What you talking about? Did you play against Cal Corbin?
[29:46] Speaker 2: That ain't the question I'm about to ask. That ain't
[29:48] Speaker 2: the question I'm about to ask. Was he weak or not?
[29:50] Speaker 4: No, I'm about to ask the question. You played against
[29:53] Speaker 4: Cal Corbin. You played against Cal Corbin. We played against
[29:55] Speaker 4: Cal Corbin. Was Cal Corbin limited in his basketball ability?
[30:00] Speaker 5: But he was in fucking pregame and before the game, coach.
[30:03] Speaker 2: Don't leave him out. I didn't ask you that. Tell
[30:06] Speaker 2: me what his limitations were. Okay, though. I don't know
[30:10] Speaker 2: how this turned into a Kyle Corver discussion. Tell me
[30:12] Speaker 2: what his limitations were. Tell me what his strengths are.
[30:16] Speaker 2: He asked a question. Tell me what his strengths are. Shooting. Yes. Passing. Moving. Movement. Movement.
[30:24] Speaker 2: Movement without the basketball. Lock and trail on defense.
[30:28] Speaker 1: Pay attention to defensive principles and keys and strategies on defense.
[30:32] Speaker 2: So what are his weaknesses?
[30:35] Speaker 1: I don't need to know.
[30:38] Speaker 2: Y'all called me on by you. Y'all just asked me
[30:41] Speaker 2: this question. I answered. Now you answer. What are his weaknesses?
[30:44] Speaker 2: Don't rebuttal. Answer my question.
[30:47] Speaker 4: So Cal Corbin can go by you, what'd you do?
[30:49] Speaker 4: Cal Corbin can put the deck on the go by you?
[30:50] Speaker 2: Hold on, whoa, whoa, hold on. Cal Corbin can put
[30:53] Speaker 2: the ball on the deck and go by you? No,
[30:54] Speaker 2: he can't. Okay, okay. Now, he might be able to
[30:58] Speaker 2: do it to somebody else.
[30:59] Speaker 1: A lot of motherfuckers can't put the ball down and
[31:01] Speaker 1: get by me.
[31:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them guys don't do that, though.
[31:03] Speaker 1: A lot of guys can't put the ball down and
[31:04] Speaker 1: get by me.
[31:05] Speaker 2: When Cal Corbin guarded you, what happened? I don't know.
[31:09] Speaker 2: I'm not anything about this.
[31:10] Speaker 5: When he guarded you, if Kobe was called to play
[31:12] Speaker 5: and you got the ball and Cal Corbin was guarding you,
[31:15] Speaker 5: because he said all this defensive bullshit, what'd you do?
[31:26] Speaker 2: Where is his weaknesses? Are we showing you right now?
[31:29] Speaker 2: You're not showing shit.
[31:30] Speaker 1: You're just saying gibberish.
[31:31] Speaker 2: I asked you a straight question. And I answered it.
[31:33] Speaker 2: And y'all asked me. Y'all asked me. I gave y'all
[31:36] Speaker 2: the answers. What is his weaknesses? What is his limitations?
[31:39] Speaker 2: What are they? That was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. No, what
[31:43] Speaker 2: I'm saying is... He's not a good passer. He's not
[31:46] Speaker 2: a good passer. He's a good shooter. He's not a
[31:48] Speaker 2: good defender. He's very limited in his ability. Only going
[31:51] Speaker 2: off right. Only going right. Can't go left. There's a
[31:54] Speaker 2: whole lot of shit. He can't come left shooting.
[31:58] Speaker 1: A whole lot of limitations. Don't ask your fucking question.
[32:00] Speaker 1: Y'all making up shit.
[32:01] Speaker 2: No, not a chance. Just like you did. Y'all got
[32:03] Speaker 2: to make up shit just like you did.
[32:04] Speaker 1: To win a conversation? The point, very limited. When I
[32:08] Speaker 1: can break this shit down to A, B, C.
[32:10] Speaker 2: Cal Corbin's a very limited basketball player. I'm just saying,
[32:12] Speaker 2: is that a limitation? Jamal Crawford recently went 51. Of course,
[32:15] Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford recently went 51. He's very limited. Of course, Jamal.
[32:18] Speaker 2: He came off the bench. Is Joker limited? Is it
[32:20] Speaker 2: a reason why Joker went 50?
[32:21] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[32:22] Speaker 2: So what is his limitations? Yes. What are Joker's limitations?
[32:25] Speaker 2: This ain't about Joker. At the 50-something pick, this is
[32:27] Speaker 2: the reason why he went.
[32:28] Speaker 1: He's limited, right?
[32:30] Speaker 2: What is his limitations? Yes, okay.
[32:32] Speaker 4: None.
[32:32] Speaker 5: Cool.
[32:32] Speaker 2: So the guy who come off the bench averaging 16 points.
[32:35] Speaker 2: Jamal's going to make it.
[32:37] Speaker 5: I thought Jamal's going to make it. Of course.
[32:39] Speaker 2: Say it again now. Jamal. The third option. Just because
[32:43] Speaker 2: he had a bigger role, I feel like. Kyle Corbin.
[32:45] Speaker 2: Over who, Nick? Say it.
[32:49] Speaker 5: I'm saying, I really, I said that, but y'all saying
[32:52] Speaker 5: something that rarely happens. Shit like that rarely happens.
[32:55] Speaker 2: We talking about... What I'm saying, no, the point.
[32:57] Speaker 5: You can't just point out Corbin and say it's every
[33:00] Speaker 5: time the All-Star like... Exactly.
[33:01] Speaker 1: The point of this is... Exactly, that's the reason I'm
[33:03] Speaker 1: saying it.
[33:04] Speaker 2: Shit that never fucking made it. The point of this is...
[33:06] Speaker 2: Shit that never got called.
[33:07] Speaker 4: This is no different than the fucking Olympics.
[33:09] Speaker 2: A lot of guys should have never got the call, okay?
[33:12] Speaker 1: A lot of guys can say that. We say that
[33:13] Speaker 1: about a lot of guys who did one year. And
[33:15] Speaker 1: we're like, yo, he should have never got it.
[33:17] Speaker 4: There's a lot of people.
[33:17] Speaker 2: A lot of people. And you know how many people
[33:19] Speaker 2: are going to be pissed off when we start naming
[33:21] Speaker 2: off people who shouldn't have got it? I don't care. Oh,
[33:23] Speaker 2: you should?
[33:24] Speaker 5: I don't care.
[33:24] Speaker 2: You should?
[33:25] Speaker 4: It's reality.
[33:25] Speaker 2: You should. Okay, so I'm going to get back to
[33:27] Speaker 2: my point.
[33:28] Speaker 1: Because a lot of motherfuckers are going to start saying
[33:30] Speaker 1: names motherfuckers don't like. And they'll be like, why are
[33:31] Speaker 1: you saying that name? Because you said we allowed to.
[33:34] Speaker 2: Okay, so back to.
[33:37] Speaker 4: The point of this is, this is supposed to be
[33:40] Speaker 4: the all-star game. The best 24 players in the world.
[33:46] Speaker 2: In NBA. That is the point. This year, though. Every year.
[33:50] Speaker 5: For that year.
[33:51] Speaker 2: Every year.
[33:52] Speaker 8: Every, the all-star game is supposed to be the best
[33:57] Speaker 8: of the best, the cream of the crop.
[34:00] Speaker 2: Do you know, in the Olympics, do you know how
[34:02] Speaker 2: the teams are created?
[34:04] Speaker 1: So you're saying I don't have to perform to be
[34:07] Speaker 1: an all-star, truly, just because I'm this good.
[34:10] Speaker 2: Because you're the best.
[34:10] Speaker 1: Just because I'm good, yeah. I don't have to have
[34:13] Speaker 1: a good season. Just because you're a fan favorite. Literally, hey, man,
[34:16] Speaker 1: these dudes going to make it because they the best.
[34:18] Speaker 1: He has a terrible season.
[34:20] Speaker 2: Why is he making it? Because he's good. I'll answer
[34:23] Speaker 2: my question. Because he's good.
[34:23] Speaker 5: Hold on.
[34:24] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[34:24] Speaker 4: Y'all are missing what this motherfucker is saying. When have
[34:26] Speaker 4: they not performed? That's what it is. Just because I'm
[34:30] Speaker 4: the best and I don't perform, you're not the best
[34:32] Speaker 4: if you're not performing.
[34:33] Speaker 2: No, Paul George would be a Paul George.
[34:35] Speaker 1: No.
[34:35] Speaker 5: Why?
[34:35] Speaker 2: I'm performing like an all-star. We're talking about. Didn't I
[34:38] Speaker 2: just say performance?
[34:40] Speaker 5: Yes.
[34:41] Speaker 2: So what did you just say out of your mouth?
[34:42] Speaker 2: You named a guy who's not performing. But he's still good.
[34:46] Speaker 2: But he's still good, right?
[34:48] Speaker 4: He's still one of the best players.
[34:50] Speaker 2: You didn't say anyone?
[34:51] Speaker 4: No.
[34:52] Speaker 2: No, who said that? Oh, he not. Who said that?
[34:54] Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
[34:54] Speaker 2: The top 24. Who said that?
[34:55] Speaker 4: No.
[34:56] Speaker 2: Who said that? No, what are you talking about? We're
[34:58] Speaker 2: talking about the best 24.
[34:59] Speaker 1: So I'm saying, y'all saying. that you just going to
[35:08] Speaker 1: make it regardless because you're the best 24.
[35:10] Speaker 2: That's what y'all saying. You're saying that a guy like
[35:13] Speaker 2: Kyle Korver.
[35:14] Speaker 1: Can't make it because there are guys that are always
[35:17] Speaker 1: going to be better than him regardless of.
[35:19] Speaker 2: How good the season is. He's playing better. No, no, no.
[35:22] Speaker 2: You're not playing better to win games. You're not playing
[35:25] Speaker 2: better to win games. You're not playing better to win games.
[35:28] Speaker 1: Kyle Korver, nigga.
[35:32] Speaker 2: His team was first in the league when he made
[35:34] Speaker 2: the league. He was number one in the league. Number
[35:39] Speaker 2: one by land size. He made it.
[35:42] Speaker 1: Because he was a reserve.
[35:43] Speaker 2: Because he was so good. And it was the Miami
[35:47] Speaker 2: Heat in the league then. Come on, man. I watched
[35:50] Speaker 2: this game.
[35:50] Speaker 1: I know it.
[35:51] Speaker 2: I watched this game. I know it. We're talking about
[35:54] Speaker 2: the best 20. We're talking about who, bro? Like, I
[35:57] Speaker 2: let you talk. I didn't say shit. You did. You
[36:00] Speaker 2: always say shit.
[36:00] Speaker 5: Go.
[36:01] Speaker 1: You're going to finish. Can we get a timer and
[36:02] Speaker 1: let him finish?
[36:03] Speaker 4: I'm not going to interrupt you.
[36:05] Speaker 1: You interrupted me right now. I was in the middle
[36:09] Speaker 1: of a fucking point. Now I can't remember it. Go ahead.
[36:12] Speaker 2: Because the shit was invalid. Yeah, of course. It's always invalid.
[36:16] Speaker 2: It can't always go my way.
[36:17] Speaker 1: Hey.
[36:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever.
[36:19] Speaker 2: 85th highest points per game ever.
[36:21] Speaker 4: So that year, he had the 85th.
[36:28] Speaker 2: Calc over, that is. Did y'all just go to stats? Yes.
[36:31] Speaker 2: You fucking right we did. We don't just talk.
[36:33] Speaker 5: I did.
[36:34] Speaker 2: I went to the stats.
[36:35] Speaker 1: I forced these niggas to go get the motherfucking newspaper. No,
[36:38] Speaker 1: 85th highest score in the NBA.
[36:40] Speaker 2: Based on points per game. Based on points per game.
[36:42] Speaker 2: Where's your ball? But so you couldn't have.
[36:47] Speaker 4: So there was no other guy before.
[36:49] Speaker 2: 85 that was playing... Forty-six. the same or better.
[36:52] Speaker 4: Than Cal Corb at the time that you could have
[36:54] Speaker 4: made an all-star?
[36:54] Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford, his teammate. Yes.
[36:56] Speaker 5: Forty-something.
[36:57] Speaker 4: So that means his value to the team was higher.
[36:59] Speaker 2: Yes. Okay.
[37:00] Speaker 5: What did Tayshaun Prince have?
[37:02] Speaker 2: Tayshaun didn't make it. Now, let's try this again.
[37:04] Speaker 5: He didn't make it with Detroit? No. How many people
[37:07] Speaker 5: made it with Detroit that year?
[37:09] Speaker 2: Three. Four. Four didn't make it. He was the only
[37:11] Speaker 2: one that didn't make it. They were trying their hardest.
[37:14] Speaker 2: So they almost had five. So they almost had five.
[37:17] Speaker 2: They almost had five. Cool. I know they didn't average
[37:22] Speaker 2: that much.
[37:23] Speaker 8: Just like when we go to the Olympics, right? And
[37:26] Speaker 8: you're talking about track. They don't give a fuck about
[37:31] Speaker 8: how many awards you want.
[37:32] Speaker 1: It's the fastest four.
[37:34] Speaker 8: I don't care about the other three players on your team.
[37:37] Speaker 1: It's the fastest.
[37:39] Speaker 2: Four people in the world.
[37:41] Speaker 4: That's going to be selected for that. The all-star is
[37:45] Speaker 4: the best of the best. This is not, motherfucker, you
[37:49] Speaker 4: came with a, the star player come with.
[37:51] Speaker 5: A plus two.
[37:52] Speaker 8: They don't come with a plus two. The fuck is this?
[37:56] Speaker 8: I'm bringing me and my two homies?
[37:59] Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about, man? These are
[38:03] Speaker 2: backseat drivers.
[38:04] Speaker 5: Just because you the star of the team.
[38:05] Speaker 2: How many people went to the game for Cowboy? That
[38:07] Speaker 2: analogy ain't even real. That's a terrible analogy.
[38:10] Speaker 1: You ain't like one person going to win the championship
[38:13] Speaker 1: every time.
[38:13] Speaker 2: We're not talking about championships. What you talking about? That's
[38:18] Speaker 2: what you said. That's what you said. The all-star game.
[38:22] Speaker 5: The people that's in it, the second people that's in.
[38:24] Speaker 2: It, they're number one in this section. Not an all-NBA.
[38:26] Speaker 1: We're not talking about the NBA.
[38:27] Speaker 2: But they're number one.
[38:28] Speaker 4: We're talking about all-star.
[38:30] Speaker 2: A fun factivity. So I disagree with him in that regard. Inactivity.
[38:33] Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's the best.
[38:36] Speaker 1: Who's performing the best is going to get picked to
[38:38] Speaker 1: go to the Olympics.
[38:39] Speaker 2: Not just every year. So we're going to pick you.
[38:41] Speaker 2: And you've got to perform. Who is performing the best?
[38:44] Speaker 2: Not just every year. Who has the best teeth?
[38:45] Speaker 4: So in situations, like, I don't agree with that, Gil,
[38:49] Speaker 4: because you have situations like Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce.
[38:53] Speaker 2: They both are all stars, right? Yeah, one and two.
[38:55] Speaker 2: Who was third? Yeah, this shouldn't... Yeah, how about him?
[38:58] Speaker 2: How about the females? Okay. I'm saying that you had
[39:01] Speaker 2: Kyrie and Braun. So there's situations.
[39:05] Speaker 1: Brad Miller.
[39:06] Speaker 5: Huh?
[39:07] Speaker 2: Brad Miller was an all-star. Was he deserving of it?
[39:10] Speaker 5: It was.
[39:11] Speaker 4: I'm just going to go on a limb and say
[39:12] Speaker 4: I don't think he was.
[39:14] Speaker 2: He was on the East. He was in Pacers. Let's
[39:18] Speaker 2: talk about this current All-Star team real quick. So we
[39:22] Speaker 2: talked about the snubs. Let's talk about somebody who made
[39:24] Speaker 2: the squad. So Steph Curry was selected. as an All-Star reserve.
[39:30] Speaker 2: We're playing his 11th career All-Star game. This is his
[39:32] Speaker 2: fifth straight selection. So far this season, Chef Curry averaging
[39:34] Speaker 2: 22.6 assists. 4.5 rebounds. His points per game are as
[39:38] Speaker 2: low as his 2011 season, including the 2019-20 season when
[39:41] Speaker 2: he only played five games. I get it.
[39:43] Speaker 5: What is your point?
[39:43] Speaker 2: That's a popularity pick. What is your point?
[39:46] Speaker 10: Let me host.
[39:46] Speaker 2: Does Steph Curry deserve it? Yes. Let me host. He's
[39:49] Speaker 2: the number one option.
[39:50] Speaker 5: Yes.
[39:50] Speaker 2: Yes.
[39:51] Speaker 1: Josiah, this is just you just getting all the back.
[39:54] Speaker 2: I don't think so. This year, I don't. Steph Curry...
[39:57] Speaker 2: I'm rubbing the loop in Jersey. This year, I don't
[39:59] Speaker 2: think Steph should make it.
[40:00] Speaker 5: Chelsea Miller's made it. He averaged 12 points.
[40:02] Speaker 2: I don't think Steph should make it.
[40:03] Speaker 5: Say it again.
[40:04] Speaker 2: And Richard Hamilton.
[40:06] Speaker 1: Chauncey.
[40:06] Speaker 2: Billings has a 12, Rich averaged 14. They were all
[40:10] Speaker 2: reserved right there.
[40:10] Speaker 5: And Ben Wallace averaged, uh... shit.
[40:14] Speaker 2: Nine.
[40:15] Speaker 5: Nine?
[40:17] Speaker 1: And they made it because they what? They made it
[40:19] Speaker 1: because they was all-stars.
[40:21] Speaker 2: Chauncey averaged 12?
[40:22] Speaker 5: Yeah, 12.8. It say right there.
[40:24] Speaker 4: You know, Chauncey has no fucking 12 points.
[40:27] Speaker 2: Don't they say 12.8 and that's, uh... Chauncey have no
[40:30] Speaker 2: goddamn 12 points. And then you go 12.8. That year?
[40:35] Speaker 2: Not in beating us? Hold on, whoa, whoa.
[40:39] Speaker 5: No, he didn't.
[40:39] Speaker 4: There's no way Beezle could charge every 12 points and
[40:42] Speaker 4: the motherfucking Pistons beat us.
[40:43] Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
[40:45] Speaker 2: Of course he does.
[40:48] Speaker 4: That shit I know for a fact. The year they
[40:52] Speaker 4: all made it was 05-06.
[40:54] Speaker 2: They won the title in 04. Not a fucking chance,
[40:56] Speaker 2: the motherfuckers. I was in the East that year.
[41:00] Speaker 4: Of course y'all do.
[41:02] Speaker 2: Y'all just say shit. Of course you thought it. That
[41:04] Speaker 2: was the year after. I was there. Not a fucking chance.
[41:09] Speaker 5: Let's spin it forward to 2025.
[41:13] Speaker 4: Chance averaged 12.
[41:16] Speaker 2: We beat the dog shit out of him. He won
[41:18] Speaker 2: a championship. Cool. What the fuck? I got to do
[41:21] Speaker 2: what we're talking about. He was an all-star 05-06, sir.
[41:25] Speaker 5: All right.
[41:26] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[41:26] Speaker 2: Let's take a breather. What's the name? Average 20. Let's
[41:29] Speaker 2: take a breather. Luka Doncic is on the Lakers. Take
[41:32] Speaker 2: a moment. Take a moment. Let's just be saying shit, dude.
[41:34] Speaker 2: Let's just take a moment. When you showed him facts,
[41:37] Speaker 2: he want to go to the facts. No, you just
[41:39] Speaker 2: want to talk. Lucky number 77. You want to just
[41:40] Speaker 2: say shit. So, Kenya, I asked if Steph Curry deserved
[41:43] Speaker 2: to be an All-Star. You said you don't believe that
[41:44] Speaker 2: Steph Curry deserves to be an All-Star this year. Best players.
[41:47] Speaker 2: Why don't you feel like Steph doesn't deserve to be
[41:49] Speaker 2: an All-Star this year?
[41:49] Speaker 4: Because of popularity pick this year, I think. I think
[41:53] Speaker 4: Darren Fox has been playing better. Number one option? I
[41:56] Speaker 4: think he should be there. If you had to pick
[41:59] Speaker 4: this year, if there was one of the two... I
[42:01] Speaker 4: think it was a popularity pick. I'm a big Steph fan.
[42:04] Speaker 4: I love what he's done for me.
[42:04] Speaker 2: We love Steph Curry in the arena. I love the
[42:05] Speaker 2: way he played the game, but this year in particular,
[42:08] Speaker 2: I think... With the game being in the Bay and
[42:11] Speaker 2: his home venue, do you think that has anything else
[42:13] Speaker 2: to do with it?
[42:13] Speaker 4: It's a popularity pick, absolutely. 1,000%. Like, you have to...
[42:16] Speaker 4: It was represented from his team, but this year in particular,
[42:22] Speaker 4: I get it, but if we're talking about just play
[42:25] Speaker 4: and you had to pick one of the two guys,
[42:27] Speaker 4: I would have went with Fox just for.
[42:30] Speaker 2: Just play for the first half.
[42:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[42:32] Speaker 2: So, but... Mr. Cemetery Larry, you made it, so congratulations.
[42:35] Speaker 2: Do you believe that Steph deserves to be in the
[42:37] Speaker 2: All-Star game this season, based on the season he's having
[42:40] Speaker 2: up to this point? I think everybody's deserving. Of course.
[42:44] Speaker 2: Everybody deserves to make the All-Star. Yeah, everybody play their
[42:47] Speaker 2: fucking ass off to get something. If you get something
[42:49] Speaker 2: out of it, get something out of it. Cool.
[42:51] Speaker 1: Like I say, man, the nigga playing good out his
[42:53] Speaker 1: mind for that year, and they decide to pick him,
[42:57] Speaker 1: You can't look at that man like he don't deserve it.
[42:58] Speaker 2: Like, Scottie Barnes got in last year.
[43:01] Speaker 1: Everybody was like, oh, you could have picked.
[43:03] Speaker 2: Trey in front of him. Y'all know he had the
[43:05] Speaker 2: number one jersey sale?
[43:07] Speaker 1: In Toronto.
[43:08] Speaker 2: In Toronto. It's in Toronto. It's only one team. I
[43:11] Speaker 2: know that. That I know, but Steve, shit. They got
[43:14] Speaker 2: four players. Scottie Barnes replaced him. They tried to make
[43:15] Speaker 2: it seem like it was every, yeah.
[43:17] Speaker 5: Replaced him.
[43:17] Speaker 1: Merchandise sales, too. But Gil, you said you think Steph.
[43:20] Speaker 1: But it's amongst his teammates. You think Steph deserves to
[43:22] Speaker 1: be in there.
[43:22] Speaker 2: I'm with it. I'm with it. My bad. Gil, you
[43:25] Speaker 2: said Steph deserves to be in the All-Star game. Why
[43:27] Speaker 2: do you think Steph deserves to.
[43:29] Speaker 1: Be in.
[43:33] Speaker 2: The All-Star game?
[43:34] Speaker 5: It's Steph Curry.
[43:37] Speaker 2: He's the number one option on his team. There's a
[43:42] Speaker 2: lot of number one options on there.
[43:43] Speaker 5: So it don't matter if he played bad.
[43:45] Speaker 2: So it don't matter if he played bad.
[43:46] Speaker 1: So why didn't y'all make him?
[43:49] Speaker 2: When he's talking, I didn't say shit.
[43:50] Speaker 1: You guys don't allow me to host. Trade deadline, looking
[43:55] Speaker 1: at other shows.
[43:55] Speaker 2: There's a lot of what?
[43:57] Speaker 1: Number one options on other teams.
[43:59] Speaker 2: 30 teams across the league. And he said Fox? And
[44:01] Speaker 2: I said, okay, he's the number one option.
[44:02] Speaker 1: They're Fox. It brings me to my next question. So
[44:07] Speaker 1: we see in the Olympics, the host country, their team
[44:09] Speaker 1: gets to be in.
[44:09] Speaker 2: Hold on one second. So Mr. Allen Iverson said he
[44:11] Speaker 2: loved listening to us.
[44:12] Speaker 1: Shout out to Allen Iverson.
[44:14] Speaker 2: Shout out to Chuck, man. When they went to the championship,
[44:18] Speaker 2: what year was that? Chuck Neal?
[44:20] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. 2001.
[44:20] Speaker 1: 2001.
[44:20] Speaker 2: Where were they ranked? Oh, that was Chuck. Yeah. Damn,
[44:30] Speaker 2: that's so crazy. Chuck will hit you when I'm wearing
[44:32] Speaker 2: a Chuck shirt. The I hate sneakers. God damn, that's crazy,
[44:35] Speaker 2: ain't it? The number one finger for Luka's option with
[44:40] Speaker 2: the Lakers. What year is that?
[44:42] Speaker 5: 2001?
[44:42] Speaker 2: Yeah. They won 51 games. Now, imagine, just imagine two
[44:45] Speaker 2: people came from this team. Two other people came.
[44:58] Speaker 1: From this team.
[44:58] Speaker 5: Matambo wasn't an All-Star.
[44:59] Speaker 2: Who?
[45:00] Speaker 5: Matambo.
[45:00] Speaker 2: The Kimba. One more.
[45:03] Speaker 5: I'm saying, was he an All-Star that year?
[45:05] Speaker 2: Probably. Back then, it was just centers.
[45:07] Speaker 4: They're back up center, starting center.
[45:10] Speaker 2: That's how they did it. I'm just saying, that's two.
[45:12] Speaker 5: Lakers only had two. I said three.
[45:14] Speaker 2: Now imagine if the Lakers got three. Hey, when you
[45:16] Speaker 2: say three, he going to say four. Imagine if the
[45:19] Speaker 2: Lakers got three. He going to keep pushing it until
[45:21] Speaker 2: you get 12. No. When you talk, I don't say nothing, man.
[45:25] Speaker 1: Let's be respectful in the arena. Luka's on the Lakers.
[45:27] Speaker 4: Now remember, there's teams out here that got three.
[45:31] Speaker 2: So if the Lakers pull three. If they had somebody.
[45:36] Speaker 2: Denver's number one.
[45:37] Speaker 8: They can't even pull the second guy.
[45:40] Speaker 4: They can't even pull a second guy. But you got
[45:42] Speaker 4: third options here.
[45:46] Speaker 5: A third option averaging 18, you put him on another
[45:50] Speaker 5: team by itself, he could average 30. He could. We
[45:54] Speaker 5: just seen that now with Bradley Bill averaging something on that,
[45:57] Speaker 5: but he come to Phoenix, he about to get traded.
[45:59] Speaker 2: Is he an all-star?
[46:01] Speaker 5: You can't say that. What is the number one option, basically?
[46:05] Speaker 2: The guy you're playing this team. What is the number
[46:07] Speaker 2: one option? Darius Garland is not the number one option.
[46:09] Speaker 2: So where's... So what.
[46:11] Speaker 4: You just said is he could average. When Bradley Beal
[46:16] Speaker 4: was the number one option, he was in all sides.
[46:20] Speaker 4: He was the number one. When he's on another team,
[46:23] Speaker 4: he's the third option.
[46:23] Speaker 5: Just because you're the number one option on the team,
[46:26] Speaker 5: fuck the team winning, and who else helps you there?
[46:28] Speaker 5: If I average more than you, if you average... 28 and.
[46:31] Speaker 2: Not average 24. Fuck me.
[46:34] Speaker 5: Just go.
[46:35] Speaker 2: Put him.
[46:35] Speaker 5: And we number one?
[46:36] Speaker 2: No.
[46:37] Speaker 5: That's what you're saying. Number one option trumps everything. It doesn't.
[46:41] Speaker 1: Yes.
[46:41] Speaker 2: It doesn't. And number two obviously trumps that. That's why
[46:44] Speaker 2: it's fucked up in the Wizards. That's why it's fucked up.
[46:47] Speaker 5: They was fighting for number one option every goddamn day.
[46:50] Speaker 2: Like.
[46:52] Speaker 4: Because you can't tell me that Jalen Brown and Jason
[46:55] Speaker 4: Taylor not deserving, right? No, that's... They can both be number...
[46:59] Speaker 4: And then if they... Who's the number one option on Memphis?
[47:05] Speaker 4: Who's the number two option?
[47:07] Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson.
[47:07] Speaker 1: Bane, Jaron Jackson.
[47:09] Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson right now, probably Jaron. Jaron Jackson's probably number
[47:12] Speaker 2: one option. Number one option.
[47:13] Speaker 4: Number one option on the team is Ja.
[47:16] Speaker 2: Number two is Bane. Number three is Jaron Jackson. No,
[47:19] Speaker 2: number two is Jackson. Two is Jackson. I think two
[47:21] Speaker 2: is Jackson. He averaging, but he putting up numbers. Just
[47:25] Speaker 2: watching him play.
[47:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[47:26] Speaker 2: I watch him play. I think Jaron Jackson. For sure.
[47:29] Speaker 2: For sure. For sure. For sure. For sure.
[47:33] Speaker 4: But it can be Bane, it can be Jaron Jackson,
[47:35] Speaker 4: either fucking one of them.
[47:36] Speaker 5: It don't.
[47:37] Speaker 1: Bane, Klay Thompson out there right now, man. Get that
[47:39] Speaker 1: shit off the... So, Jaren Jackson Jr. currently leading.
[47:42] Speaker 2: This review is scoring. Field goal attempt, 17 shots a game.
[47:45] Speaker 2: Leading the team in scoring as well. Josh second with
[47:47] Speaker 2: 15.7 bane.
[47:48] Speaker 1: Who the number one option?
[47:50] Speaker 2: Jaren Jack right now. Right now, yeah.
[47:54] Speaker 5: See, I can admit.
[47:55] Speaker 4: I can admit. I use actual facts to my argument.
[48:00] Speaker 2: I don't just say shit.
[48:02] Speaker 4: There's been situations throughout where you have Mike Bibby you
[48:07] Speaker 4: have Paisa, you have Chris Webber, right? They don't win,
[48:13] Speaker 4: they're not successful. All three of them guys were playing
[48:16] Speaker 4: at a high level, right? And deserving so of being all-stars.
[48:23] Speaker 4: There are certain situations throughout that, yeah. When you're doing,
[48:29] Speaker 4: when you, so just with, I don't mean to keep
[48:33] Speaker 4: Kyle Korv on the motherfucking dartboard that we just keep.
[48:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:36] Speaker 4: But, There are guys other than him that had been,
[48:41] Speaker 4: for their prospective team, that had a decent record.
[48:44] Speaker 2: I ain't saying they was number one, number two.
[48:46] Speaker 4: They could have been the second option before they got
[48:48] Speaker 4: to him to pick him for an all-star team. Right?
[48:52] Speaker 4: There could have been a second option. Not a number
[48:54] Speaker 4: one option on another team. There could have been a
[48:56] Speaker 4: team that's in second or third where their second option
[48:59] Speaker 4: was averaging 22, 23 and didn't get that call because
[49:03] Speaker 4: they called him.
[49:04] Speaker 5: Right?
[49:04] Speaker 2: His teammate was better. So that's my thing with it, right?
[49:09] Speaker 4: So he got the call, yes. He's going to pick
[49:13] Speaker 4: the phone up and say.
[49:14] Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. I was doing that, but y'all know.
[49:16] Speaker 4: But there were other guys at the time that probably
[49:23] Speaker 4: to this day don't have that All-Star next to their
[49:25] Speaker 4: name because that.
[49:28] Speaker 2: And other guys as well that.
[49:30] Speaker 4: Got the call that we think that, okay, this guy
[49:33] Speaker 4: has an All-Star season, right?
[49:35] Speaker 2: I got a good question. And somebody get hurt.
[49:37] Speaker 4: And we think they're going to call this guy, and
[49:40] Speaker 4: they call somebody.
[49:41] Speaker 2: Off the wall, right? We're like, fuck y'all get to
[49:44] Speaker 2: him for? Like, how y'all get to that name? How'd
[49:46] Speaker 2: you get to him?
[49:47] Speaker 4: So that's what we're saying with this situation. Like, how
[49:49] Speaker 4: the fuck y'all get to Kyle Corver when you got
[49:53] Speaker 4: this dude doing this on the third best team?
[49:57] Speaker 5: So.
[49:58] Speaker 2: Maxie.
[50:01] Speaker 8: Garland.
[50:01] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[50:03] Speaker 1: Where is the Philadelphia 76ers in comparison?
[50:07] Speaker 2: I think Darius Garland gets right now over Tyrese Maxey.
[50:10] Speaker 5: Why?
[50:11] Speaker 4: Because his impact for what he's doing on his team
[50:13] Speaker 4: is better.
[50:14] Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Yes.
[50:15] Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And Tyrese
[50:18] Speaker 1: Maxey is an all-star.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Yes. He is an all-star. But guess who's having a
[50:22] Speaker 2: better season?
[50:23] Speaker 4: Yes.
[50:24] Speaker 1: For his team, which makes him an all-star.
[50:31] Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Mr.
[50:32] Speaker 5: Martin.
[50:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[50:33] Speaker 4: You know, I'ma keep it a bean. I ain't gonna never, nah, nah, nah, nah. But,
[50:37] Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? So with this metric, right?
[50:41] Speaker 4: Like I said, Richard, when we were number one, and
[50:44] Speaker 4: me and J.
[50:45] Speaker 2: Kidd made it, we should have every representation.
[50:47] Speaker 1: Y'all was looking like, yo, we've all been playing well.
[50:50] Speaker 2: In that case, Kerry should have made it. All four
[50:53] Speaker 2: of us should have made it, right?
[50:54] Speaker 1: If you had an argument, you'd say Kerry over Richard.
[50:57] Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, so yeah, but. I have a question. When
[51:01] Speaker 2: you said Garland, what? Garland, Maxie, or Garland, LaMelo, right?
[51:12] Speaker 2: On the brochure, when these two teams is playing, who's
[51:15] Speaker 2: on them? It's going to be.
[51:18] Speaker 1: Depends on who's playing well.
[51:21] Speaker 2: Who's on it?
[51:22] Speaker 8: When Charlotte is going to different cities, who's on the
[51:25] Speaker 8: cover of that, right?
[51:27] Speaker 2: When kids is coming to the arena, do they.
[51:29] Speaker 4: Have on LaMelo balls and a LaMelo ball jersey, right?
[51:33] Speaker 2: Right.
[51:33] Speaker 4: He's coming to town.
[51:34] Speaker 1: Right.
[51:36] Speaker 2: That guy's coming to town. There's like that.
[51:40] Speaker 5: That should be the only exempt that fan favorite thing.
[51:42] Speaker 2: No, just the guy who's who's who's putting people in
[51:46] Speaker 2: with that. So when they say these guys are not
[51:50] Speaker 2: playing hard. Has anybody asked a question? I don't respect
[52:00] Speaker 2: the players that are here. Why am I playing hard?
[52:06] Speaker 8: This is not the best of the best. We play
[52:09] Speaker 8: against the best of the best. We know who the
[52:11] Speaker 8: best of the best is.
[52:13] Speaker 4: And you're telling me you're using team success to put
[52:16] Speaker 4: in a third option, and I'm supposed to take this
[52:20] Speaker 4: nigga serious, and we don't during the season.
[52:22] Speaker 5: The best of the best is here. If you're winning...
[52:25] Speaker 5: We asked.
[52:26] Speaker 4: Him earlier, if Kyle Corbett is in front of you,
[52:28] Speaker 4: what are you doing?
[52:31] Speaker 2: Easy work. He don't respect them. Why should anybody?
[52:35] Speaker 4: So when you're talking about the best of the best.
[52:38] Speaker 2: Players out here playing, going at it, the best of
[52:41] Speaker 2: the best is not theirs. So you saying that's the best?
[52:45] Speaker 4: If we go through the NBA, if we go through
[52:47] Speaker 4: the list right now, can we say this is even
[52:50] Speaker 4: top 50 in the NBA? No, we're not, but it's
[52:52] Speaker 4: who's playing well right now.
[52:54] Speaker 2: Okay, who's playing well? Like, this is the guys that's
[52:56] Speaker 2: playing well. The Mello's not playing well? Yeah, he should be. Okay.
[52:59] Speaker 2: So to your.
[53:00] Speaker 4: Mental, what you just said, right, I was listening, and
[53:03] Speaker 4: the only way that it doesn't add up to what
[53:05] Speaker 4: you're saying... if that name and that number one option
[53:10] Speaker 4: is not playing like that, right?
[53:12] Speaker 8: If he's not playing like that, I'm talking about the
[53:15] Speaker 8: guys that are playing well.
[53:18] Speaker 2: Like, so just... Wait, what? I think it's... You're talking
[53:23] Speaker 2: about just Mello.
[53:24] Speaker 4: It's Mello because they took the fan thing out.
[53:27] Speaker 2: So I have a hard time with it because... If
[53:32] Speaker 2: you had the guy... Like, just.
[53:35] Speaker 4: You take an opportunity away from, like, just say, I'm like,
[53:38] Speaker 4: I played in one.
[53:39] Speaker 2: Didn't know if it was, I.
[53:40] Speaker 4: Planned on playing in more, but my approach was, I'm
[53:43] Speaker 4: going to go out, I'm going to enjoy this.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Shit, I'm going to play hard.
[53:47] Speaker 5: Right?
[53:47] Speaker 2: Get them before I do, bro. So.
[53:49] Speaker 5: 26-6-4.
[53:49] Speaker 2: So go out.
[53:51] Speaker 4: Like, think about what's on the, 26-6-4. I don't think that's.
[53:54] Speaker 5: Right?
[53:54] Speaker 2: That's Devin Booker. Then you got LaMelo. He's out. You
[53:58] Speaker 2: got Maxie.
[53:59] Speaker 8: Think about the names I am saying versus the names
[54:02] Speaker 8: that are there.
[54:03] Speaker 4: Right? We're talking about Trey, LaMelo, Kyrie, Booker, Maxie, Sabonis, Fox,
[54:13] Speaker 4: Zach Levine. Right?
[54:15] Speaker 2: These are names if you replace.
[54:17] Speaker 4: Like, think about the fan names, the guys who.
[54:20] Speaker 2: Are playing well. Who would you replace them with?
[54:22] Speaker 4: You're picking off the list. So I don't think... So
[54:26] Speaker 4: if those guys... So I think... The Tyler Herro shouldn't
[54:29] Speaker 4: be there. You should place him on the yellow ball.
[54:31] Speaker 4: I didn't want to say the names.
[54:32] Speaker 2: Cade is clean. Cade is well. Cade is well. No,
[54:36] Speaker 2: he's in. He should be there. But I'm trying to
[54:39] Speaker 2: think who else.
[54:40] Speaker 5: Not over Trey.
[54:41] Speaker 1: I'm missing context here. It's not about should he be
[54:44] Speaker 1: over Trey.
[54:44] Speaker 2: He should be there.
[54:46] Speaker 4: I don't think Dame should be there right now. I
[54:49] Speaker 4: don't think Dame should be there over Trey or LaMelo.
[54:52] Speaker 4: I don't think Tyler Hero should be there over Dame
[54:55] Speaker 4: or LaMelo. I mean over LaMelo or Trey.
[55:00] Speaker 2: So Pascal is fine? Wait, I heard you just say something.
[55:03] Speaker 2: I heard you say.
[55:04] Speaker 1: All right, last point, Sean.
[55:05] Speaker 2: Last point, but we got to move on.
[55:07] Speaker 1: I heard you say, you said, why would we play
[55:11] Speaker 1: hard against these type of guys?
[55:15] Speaker 2: Were you there? Did you play?
[55:16] Speaker 1: I'm telling you what you just said to me. Because
[55:20] Speaker 1: you all just cooked, and I listened to you. Are
[55:24] Speaker 1: you going to use facts or are you going to
[55:25] Speaker 1: use facts?
[55:26] Speaker 2: I'm going to use what you said. We should be
[55:27] Speaker 2: able to play hard. I'm using what you just said.
[55:30] Speaker 2: All the things you said, I'm going to use.
[55:33] Speaker 8: Now, what is the problem right now in the All-Star game?
[55:35] Speaker 2: They're not playing hard, right? Okay, now go. Mamba mentality. Okay.
[55:40] Speaker 2: No matter where I go, no matter.
[55:43] Speaker 1: Who I'm playing up against, motherfucker, you in trouble.
[55:47] Speaker 2: Okay.
[55:48] Speaker 1: You better not ever relax when it's on my clock.
[55:52] Speaker 1: So it's an all-star game, it's a pick-up game, it's
[55:55] Speaker 1: a charity game, it's a fucking walk up and down
[55:58] Speaker 1: the street.
[55:58] Speaker 2: Who first? Me. Because this ain't the first time. Me.
[56:02] Speaker 2: I'm first.
[56:03] Speaker 1: Challenge accepted.
[56:05] Speaker 5: Huh?
[56:06] Speaker 2: Play hard?
[56:07] Speaker 1: What do you mean?
[56:07] Speaker 2: You ain't got to ask me to do that.
[56:08] Speaker 1: You ain't got to bring other best players in to
[56:11] Speaker 1: give me an incentive to want to go hard.
[56:13] Speaker 2: It's whoever show up.
[56:14] Speaker 1: I don't play to the level of my competition. It's
[56:16] Speaker 1: whoever show up, get cooked.
[56:19] Speaker 2: Don't matter. Barbecue sauce for everybody.
[56:25] Speaker 1: So I don't understand that mentality of, man, I only
[56:27] Speaker 1: play hard when I'm playing against the best niggas.
[56:29] Speaker 2: And, man, who are these niggas out here? They ain't
[56:31] Speaker 2: that good. It's the All-Star game. I'm about to cook.
[56:34] Speaker 2: I'm about to cook.
[56:36] Speaker 1: It seems like an easy MVP to me if they
[56:38] Speaker 1: out there just bullshitting, right?
[56:40] Speaker 2: They ain't good enough. I think dudes should play hard.
[56:42] Speaker 2: Let him finish. You finished? Now, what are they saying
[56:46] Speaker 2: about the All-Star game? That is... Borderline unwatchable. Unwatchable, why?
[56:50] Speaker 2: Because the guys aren't playing hard. So what he just
[56:53] Speaker 2: said has.
[56:56] Speaker 8: No relevant thing because it's not happening.
[57:00] Speaker 5: What he just said is not happening.
[57:05] Speaker 4: The Mamba mentality is not happening.
[57:07] Speaker 2: So all of that. Why not? Because it's not happening.
[57:10] Speaker 2: Because they like LeBron. The fact is it's not happening.
[57:12] Speaker 5: Because they like LeBron.
[57:13] Speaker 2: The fact is they like LeBron. Because when you watch
[57:16] Speaker 2: Mamba in the All-Star game, what was he doing? What
[57:19] Speaker 2: was he doing? Cooking. Same structure. You was there. You
[57:22] Speaker 2: was in the club before. You was there. We got
[57:24] Speaker 2: to move on. So again.
[57:26] Speaker 5: Same structure.
[57:27] Speaker 2: What is the actual fact right now at the all-star game?
[57:30] Speaker 2: The facts. What's the facts? It's hard to watch because
[57:33] Speaker 2: guys aren't playing hard. Okay.
[57:35] Speaker 5: Who's the captain leading them?
[57:38] Speaker 4: Okay, did he present.
[57:42] Speaker 8: Any facts that trumps the actual facts of the complaint?
[57:48] Speaker 2: No, right? It's just what he thinks should happen. Everybody
[57:52] Speaker 2: should go hard. He asked if I had any facts
[57:54] Speaker 2: in what I said.
[57:55] Speaker 5: Yes.
[57:56] Speaker 1: Which means that we can show footage of the 2000, 2001,
[57:57] Speaker 1: 2002 All-Star Games where everybody competed hard at.
[57:59] Speaker 2: A high level.
[58:03] Speaker 1: And did not want each other to fucking do what
[58:05] Speaker 1: they were supposed to do.
[58:06] Speaker 4: I agree, but we're talking about the.
[58:08] Speaker 2: What is the complaint today? That guys do not play hard.
[58:10] Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about 2000... What is the
[58:12] Speaker 4: complaint today again?
[58:13] Speaker 2: The guys do not play hard.
[58:14] Speaker 8: So the facts are they're not playing hard and we're complaining.
[58:17] Speaker 5: You said they're not playing hard because the players they pick?
[58:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't respect the other guys. Guys are
[58:22] Speaker 2: playing hard in the game.
[58:24] Speaker 1: The top ten guys all respect each other, though. So
[58:27] Speaker 1: what's that excuse? You all top 10 niggas see each
[58:30] Speaker 1: other every year.
[58:31] Speaker 2: Used to be wanting to kill each other.
[58:33] Speaker 4: One thing to fix, man, you put some incentives in it, man.
[58:35] Speaker 4: You put some money, you put certain things in it, man.
[58:38] Speaker 2: I want to be the best. That's the only thing
[58:39] Speaker 2: you got to do. Don't put a fucking incentive on shit.
[58:42] Speaker 2: I want to be cool. We got what you want
[58:45] Speaker 2: to do.
[58:45] Speaker 4: We got what you want to do.
[58:48] Speaker 2: We got what you want to do. We got what
[58:51] Speaker 2: you want to do.
[58:52] Speaker 4: All-Star weekend next weekend.
[58:55] Speaker 2: And I want to jump from the half court. Motherfucker,
[58:58] Speaker 2: I can't. You can try, motherfucker.
[59:00] Speaker 1: All-Star weekend next weekend. We will be there to cover everything.
[59:03] Speaker 4: If everybody had that approach, the NBA would be a
[59:05] Speaker 4: much better product.
[59:06] Speaker 2: But they don't. Reality is different. Overall, I want to win.
[59:10] Speaker 4: Regular season game, All-Star game, if everybody, if more guys
[59:14] Speaker 4: had that approach, the NBA would be a much more palatable.
[59:20] Speaker 2: Product. And so the NFL, right?
[59:23] Speaker 5: Hold on.
[59:24] Speaker 2: So the NFL jobs are at stake. Yep. Each week.
[59:28] Speaker 5: Yep.
[59:28] Speaker 4: If you don't approach this shit a certain way each week,
[59:31] Speaker 4: you might have a fucking pink slip on your goddamn
[59:33] Speaker 4: desk when you get there on motherfucking Tuesday.
[59:35] Speaker 1: Bags at the locker room.
[59:37] Speaker 4: If it meant something and if it was that approach,
[59:40] Speaker 4: it would be a better product. If it was regular season, all-star, playoffs,
[59:45] Speaker 4: it would be no different. Just like the NFL. Them
[59:48] Speaker 4: guys out there in preseason fighting for a fucking job.
[59:50] Speaker 4: Them guys doing the regular season fighting for a job.
[59:53] Speaker 4: And the playoffs mean something to do trying to win
[59:54] Speaker 4: a fucking Super Bowl.
[59:55] Speaker 2: Man.
[59:57] Speaker 4: If more guys had the approach that he's speaking of,
[1:00:00] Speaker 4: because I put myself in that situation, and I'll let
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: you get to your job, Joe, but more guys had
[1:00:05] Speaker 4: that approach, it'll be a much better product. There was
[1:00:09] Speaker 4: no off switch with a guy like me. I didn't
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: have no other way. I asked the guy who had
[1:00:14] Speaker 4: been to multiple, which was my teammate, what should I do?
[1:00:18] Speaker 4: He told me, go out and be you. That's all
[1:00:20] Speaker 4: you needed to hear, right? Go out and play hard
[1:00:23] Speaker 4: and be who you are. You do that shit, you'll
[1:00:25] Speaker 4: be fine. So if more guys had that approach, more
[1:00:27] Speaker 4: guys took that approach, it'll be a much better game,
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: but they don't. So Luka hasn't really played much, right?
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: And they're in eighth, well, when All-Star.
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: They were sixth.
[1:00:36] Speaker 4: So Kyrie is not an All-Star this year for carrying
[1:00:39] Speaker 4: this team without the number one option?
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: He's very capable. He should have been there. Okay, so
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: he should have. Now think about some of the names
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: that it heightens the... So let me ask you a question.
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: So he.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck who takes out.
[1:00:54] Speaker 4: I don't care who goes out. I'm just saying the
[1:00:57] Speaker 4: name that should be in. They can figure this shit out.
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: It does.
[1:01:02] Speaker 4: The guys who are their names and how they're playing.
[1:01:05] Speaker 4: You're telling me Pascal is playing.
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: Better than who?
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: But what you're saying is whatever, you're saying regardless of
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: the name and how they're playing, they should be in
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: because of the name.
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. Name and game. But that's what
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: I'm saying.
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: If another guy's playing good, better than the name, the
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: name shouldn't just get denied because he the name.
[1:01:24] Speaker 8: I'm not saying that. I'm saying they're playing very well also.
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: But not better.
[1:01:29] Speaker 4: Better than the guy who's averaging 20. This man is
[1:01:32] Speaker 4: averaging 27 and what's the name?
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: What are you saying?
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: I'm saying Darius Garland is averaging 21. Trey Young is averaging.
[1:01:40] Speaker 4: 27 and 11.
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: Double-double.
[1:01:44] Speaker 8: And you're telling me Pascal and Garland Or Mobley is
[1:01:47] Speaker 8: playing better than him?
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: In terms of playing better, what.
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: Does that mean?
[1:01:53] Speaker 5: Trey's having a 23-12.
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: Does it just mean more points?
[1:01:57] Speaker 1: Better. 23-12.
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: He's deserved. Trey Young is very deserved.
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: So we'll have a lot more all-star discussion in the
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: coming days.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: That's not all it is. We'll have a lot more
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: all-star discussion in the coming days. You know what?
[1:02:10] Speaker 4: Before the all-star break, Trey Young is having an all-star
[1:02:14] Speaker 4: caliber year.
[1:02:15] Speaker 8: Kenyon, you know what the real problem is? Here is
[1:02:18] Speaker 8: the underlying issue with all-star voting. They tell you vote
[1:02:22] Speaker 8: top seven, right? So they tell the coaches, vote your
[1:02:26] Speaker 8: top seven reserves.
[1:02:28] Speaker 4: Then they get this list, and then the NBA puts
[1:02:34] Speaker 4: them in.
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: Position, right?
[1:02:37] Speaker 8: So let's say Trey Young got the fourth most votes
[1:02:42] Speaker 8: on the list.
[1:02:43] Speaker 4: Well, they're only taking three guards, right? So that means
[1:02:46] Speaker 4: this fourth guy, he's not going to make it.
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: Now, let's say someone like.
[1:02:50] Speaker 8: Pascal, because he plays a different position, he gets to
[1:02:55] Speaker 8: get in because of the style they do. So they
[1:02:59] Speaker 8: take it. They start now adding wins. The coach is
[1:03:02] Speaker 8: not adding win shares. Don't give a fuck about that.
[1:03:05] Speaker 4: They're doing wins and then position you play. That's how
[1:03:11] Speaker 4: they're coming up with this list.
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: It's flawed, man. It's a flawed process. It can't be flawed.
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: It is. It's a flawed process. Once they put it
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: in position, it's flawed. If it wasn't flawed, LaMelo Ball
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: would be a starter. If it wasn't flawed, LaMelo Ball
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: would be a starter.
[1:03:29] Speaker 5: Didn't they change it?
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: If the system wasn't flawed... They.
[1:03:32] Speaker 5: Didn't change the... That's popular.
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball would be a star.
[1:03:36] Speaker 8: Now, what I'm saying is, now, you look at the list.
[1:03:38] Speaker 8: Just say LaMelo, right? You look at the list.
[1:03:42] Speaker 4: You're saying he's not top seven?
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: Out of all the people.
[1:03:47] Speaker 4: That's on the list, he personally is not playing better
[1:03:50] Speaker 4: than them. No, because they're going to take these guards,
[1:03:52] Speaker 4: these winning guards, and then he's behind them. And then
[1:03:56] Speaker 4: everybody else that's in different positions, they automatically go because
[1:04:00] Speaker 4: he doesn't qualify for that position.
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: That's the bad part about it.
[1:04:04] Speaker 8: Like if seven guards are playing.
[1:04:05] Speaker 4: Well, fucking seven guards go out there, get your heads
[1:04:07] Speaker 4: beat in.
[1:04:08] Speaker 2: Don't start putting them in position. That's the only part
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: I don't like. We'll have a lot more discussed about
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: the All-Star Game in the coming days. Like Sangoon. I'm sorry.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: Jalen Williams, okay. All right. All right, but let's keep
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[1:04:53] Speaker 2: Let's talk about something a little bit more positive. We'll
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: unify one side of the couch, may not on the
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: other side. So the blockbuster trade that sent Luka to
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: the Lakers and AD to the Mavericks is still sending
[1:05:02] Speaker 2: shockwaves throughout the league and beyond. After arriving in Dallas,
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis took the time to acknowledge us Lakers fans
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: who supported him through the best and the worst times
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: and has never, ever wavered. AD released a heartfelt thank
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: you to Lakers fans on social media saying in part,
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: Six years ago, I came here with the vision to
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: win a championship, and I will never forget the moment
[1:05:22] Speaker 2: we did. The business is basketball. It's a business just
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: like all other businesses. I am grateful to the city
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: where my first ring came from, grew my family and friendships,
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: and I will always have a home here. LA will
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: always have a special place in my heart. Every great
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: story has an exciting next chapter. Dallas, here we come.
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: So my family and I thank you. So we talked
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: a lot about the Lucas side of the trade yesterday,
[1:05:45] Speaker 2: but should AD feel betrayed by the Lakers and how
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: all this went down? So you're gonna skip all that
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: about the fires and shit, huh? Okay, we had to
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: keep it condensed. We are moving forward.
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: It was a long-ass lengthy statement.
[1:06:01] Speaker 2: Y'all don't like hearing me read anyway.
[1:06:04] Speaker 4: All the bullshit you done read on here, you just
[1:06:05] Speaker 4: gonna skip the fact that he said you feel some
[1:06:10] Speaker 4: families with the fires, you just gonna, of all the
[1:06:12] Speaker 4: shit you could've said, you just gonna skip that part.
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: Damn, that was a fire. You want me to read
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: it again, K?
[1:06:16] Speaker 5: His ass got fired, that's all.
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: I know that nigga was like, damn, I.
[1:06:21] Speaker 5: Would have traded myself too. Let me put some sentimental
[1:06:24] Speaker 5: shit in here.
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: The fire's in LA. Nah, your ass is fine. Oh, shit.
[1:06:29] Speaker 2: Get the fuck out. That's all I'm saying, nigga.
[1:06:33] Speaker 5: We ain't even want no motherfucking letter.
[1:06:35] Speaker 2: You don't have to throw that in.
[1:06:36] Speaker 5: There, nigga.
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: Hey, what's your name? I want to make them feel
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: sorry for.
[1:06:39] Speaker 4: You, nigga.
[1:06:39] Speaker 2: Hey, what time you start today? Shit. Goddamn, nigga. What
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: we fired was you out the door.
[1:06:45] Speaker 5: They called and said, nigga, you fired your leg LA.
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, man. Hey, nigga, lost my word.
[1:06:51] Speaker 5: Shit, nigga.
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: I had to call an ambulance.
[1:06:55] Speaker 4: Shit.
[1:06:58] Speaker 2: Hey, what time you start drinking Hennessy today? Don't ask
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: me about the fire. That nigga fire.
[1:07:03] Speaker 5: That's only fire I want to hear.
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: You had your Hennessy with cereal this morning? Yeah. Should
[1:07:11] Speaker 2: Anthony Davis feel betrayed by the Lakers?
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: Nah.
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: Rashad? No. Should he feel betrayed by the Lakers? No.
[1:07:21] Speaker 5: No.
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And this is the deep dive that I've
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: done in the last 13 days. With my research team.
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: We found out all the reasons. Found out all the
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: reasons why. What did your research team tell you, Rashad?
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: In 13 days? 13 days.
[1:07:38] Speaker 5: You knew how long it was?
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: Writing's on the walls, I told you. I said it yesterday.
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: The writing's been on the wall. Luka Doncic injured. I
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: wonder if anybody's really looked into it.
[1:07:49] Speaker 4: Is it about Anthony Davis or Luka?
[1:07:52] Speaker 5: It's about, yeah.
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: We were talking about AD. Oh, that's it. Who got
[1:07:55] Speaker 2: traded for who? A.D., you got to trade it for me.
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: Okay, just keep it, Anthony. They work together, right? They
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: work together. So when you want to get a guy
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: like Luka, right, it falls in your lap. This fell
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: in their lap, man.
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: This the only situation that made sense for Dallas was L.A.
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: Every other superstar is tied up and don't make sense
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: for L.A. It only makes sense between them two. But
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: guess who's in cahoots? Guess who worked together? Rob and
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: Nico are best friends. That's why they kept it private.
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: So for Anthony Davis, he should not feel anything but grateful.
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: Now you don't get to be blamed no more. You
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: don't have to drive the car and have the motherfucker
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: beside you keep driving for you.
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, give me this motherfucker, let me drive. Let me
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: drive this motherfucker, let me turn him the right way.
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: They got the two-stair wheels.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, like the dummy. And then he pushed the button. Man,
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: I got this shit from now on. Now it's Luka team.
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: Guess what we ain't got to do no more?
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: Ain't talk about no Brian. I might as well be
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: a Laker fan.
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: I ain't really got to do nothing else no more
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: but sit back and watch the dude from Gold member.
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: Shoot jumpers. So you're saying AD shouldn't feel betrayed by
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: the Lakers for how this went down? Because they did
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: him a favor.
[1:09:16] Speaker 5: Oh, he's free.
[1:09:18] Speaker 2: He's free. He is free. No, he's free. Free. Free, free.
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: I helped you patch those stats for four years, big dog.
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: Say thank you. You're welcome.
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: Now it's time for me to go win one and
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: get credit.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: Kyrie, here I come. And in that statement, obviously, we
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: left out a lot of it. We wanted to condense it, but... No,
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: but it hurts my feelings. Okay, you know, but you
[1:09:45] Speaker 2: know you hurt his feelings. You're like my big brother.
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: It hurts my feelings. No, we ain't got to do
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: all that, bro. No, but he said, I'm grateful to
[1:09:51] Speaker 2: the city where my first ring came from. Not where
[1:09:54] Speaker 2: my ring came from. Oh, there's more rings? Where my first,
[1:09:57] Speaker 2: as if to imply there's going to be second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth.
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: He did say that? Where my first ring came from.
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: I like his confidence.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: Do you think this move puts the Mavs in a
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: position to get A.D.
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: His next ring? 100%. All right. They the frontrunners. They're
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: the frontrunners. They're above the thunder in the Western Conference.
[1:10:16] Speaker 5: Absolutely.
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: They move right to the front.
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: To the front. To the front. As a reminder, AD
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: turns 32 in March. Still in his prime. NBA champion.
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: Gil reading his Google search. You're champion odds. It's a business.
[1:10:35] Speaker 2: He should not feel betrayed. The math odds did go
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: down in the immediate after that.
[1:10:38] Speaker 5: It went down, right?
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: I was just.
[1:10:39] Speaker 4: Vegas, they went down.
[1:10:42] Speaker 5: Not up.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: What was their odds to be in the championship last year?
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: I don't know. It was the fifth seed. Oh, my God.
[1:10:48] Speaker 5: And they had Luka Nuggets as the fifth seed.
[1:10:51] Speaker 2: It's too easy.
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: They all supposed to be great now. It was a
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: different day last year. I don't know.
[1:10:57] Speaker 2: I can check. We know. We know.
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: All I can do is then we're ready.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: We know. Since you know we're ready.
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: They weren't where they are now.
[1:11:03] Speaker 2: Where were they? They ain't where they are now. Where
[1:11:05] Speaker 2: were they? They were at lunch. You know what I'm saying?
[1:11:07] Speaker 2: Where were they?
[1:11:08] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: I know they're not where they are now.
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew.
[1:11:14] Speaker 4: So they're 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: So Lakers is fifth now. 6, 7, 8. They're ninth. Okay.
[1:11:23] Speaker 2: All right, well.
[1:11:25] Speaker 5: They in the ninth seed?
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: They're ninth. They're ninth to win. Okay, let's see.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: The odds are ninth. Or 10 behind the Bucs, according
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: to some books. Just depends.
[1:11:36] Speaker 4: Max.
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: Wait, is this last?
[1:11:37] Speaker 5: 2,000. 3, 4.
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: No, I can't know all that. So Lakers have six
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: best odds to win the title. Mavs have the 10th
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: best odds to win the NBA title in the aftermath
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: of this trade.
[1:11:50] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
[1:11:51] Speaker 2: Oh, man. Bashaw, you said AD off the hook now,
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: but now is he going to experience that same situation
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: in Dallas, coming to replace a player that we saw
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: of Mavs fans literally losing their shit over? The Dirk
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: statue right now surrounded. By a bunch of Luca memorabilia, memories, cards,
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: and notes.
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: AD ain't got nothing to worry about, man, because he
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: didn't get shipped off for just no reason. Like, the
[1:12:20] Speaker 1: other guy got shipped off because they wanted to get
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: off that asset because they know something the public don't know.
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: And they kept it private.
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: When you come in, they expect you to win now
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: with AD. There's no pressure still. Because you got Clay.
[1:12:38] Speaker 5: But they bring you in because they think you could
[1:12:40] Speaker 5: win as a championship.
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: It's right now.
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: So that's no pressure. It's right now.
[1:12:45] Speaker 5: And if you don't, Nico don't have no pressure if
[1:12:48] Speaker 5: you don't win a championship.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: Yo, he got pressure if you don't. He said three
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: to four years. He said, we trying to win in
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: the next three, four years.
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: Because I will not be here in 10, and that'll
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: be somebody else's problem.
[1:12:58] Speaker 1: That's the chance you got with how old AD is, 30?
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: It'll be 32 in March.
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: 32?
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: You got four years out of AD before we get there.
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's move back over to the Lakers side.
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: As for Luka, he was formally introduced as a Laker today.
[1:13:11] Speaker 2: Here's a snippet from his introductory press conference.
[1:13:15] Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say, like you said, I thought I
[1:13:17] Speaker 11: was going to spend my whole career there because I
[1:13:20] Speaker 11: think loyalty is a big word for me, and I
[1:13:23] Speaker 11: was trying to stay by that. But this for me
[1:13:26] Speaker 11: is a fresh start. I get to play in L.A.
[1:13:28] Speaker 11: The fans are amazing, and I got the ocean here,
[1:13:33] Speaker 11: so it's a really big thing for me. But really,
[1:13:36] Speaker 11: I'm really excited to be here and getting to play
[1:13:40] Speaker 11: for the Lakers. Now everybody can say that. And many,
[1:13:43] Speaker 11: many legends pass here, many, many championships. So that's my goal.
[1:13:51] Speaker 2: Man said he got the ocean. You know, we're living
[1:13:54] Speaker 2: here so long, we don't appreciate those type of things.
[1:13:58] Speaker 2: I like that cold-ass water. It's got a lot of
[1:14:01] Speaker 2: doo-doo and pee-pee in it, but it's still the ocean.
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: This shit freezes. So in the press conference, he was
[1:14:07] Speaker 2: asked whether he ever indicated to the Mavs that he
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: would not sign an extension. This is what Luca had
[1:14:12] Speaker 2: to say. I not agree to the super max extension.
[1:14:16] Speaker 6: Did anyone on, did you or anyone on your inner
[1:14:19] Speaker 6: circle indicate that that might be the case?
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I don't know why they're bringing up. Oh shit.
[1:14:27] Speaker 2: But here we are. So Luca said he never indicated
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: he wouldn't resign with the Dallas, uh, Same question as AD.
[1:14:37] Speaker 2: So should Luka feel betrayed by the Mavericks? Yes. The
[1:14:45] Speaker 2: way they did him was unbelievable.
[1:14:48] Speaker 5: We would never do no such thing like that to
[1:14:51] Speaker 5: our franchise guys. So I'm happy you're here. Luka's going to.
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: He should take that. feeling.
[1:15:03] Speaker 5: You know, I don't think they thought about the feeling
[1:15:06] Speaker 5: of betraying this and he gonna put it into anger
[1:15:08] Speaker 5: and he gonna come out, you know, hungry and ready
[1:15:13] Speaker 5: to go, but yeah, I'm happy about this.
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: It's a good feeling. Gil Shaluka feel betrayed by the
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: Mavs and how the situation went down. Obviously, Palenka and
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: Nico Harrison, very secretive, did not alert the agents until
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: the Final moments of the trade. You can wear the
[1:15:37] Speaker 2: jersey if you want.
[1:15:38] Speaker 4: No?
[1:15:39] Speaker 2: Okay. I'll put it back over here. You get to
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: be near the ocean. Where are you going to be
[1:15:48] Speaker 2: next week? You get to be by the ocean. Looks slim, too.
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, I don't see where the
[1:15:56] Speaker 2: 270's at. You should feel betrayed to go to To
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: go to the Lakers? Blindsided to go to the Lakers.
[1:16:09] Speaker 2: Blindside me every motherfucking day, Dan. I thought blindside was
[1:16:13] Speaker 2: landing and you ended up in motherfucker Memphis or Detroit.
[1:16:17] Speaker 4: I thought that was the blindside.
[1:16:19] Speaker 8: I thought, like, you going to these cities as a
[1:16:23] Speaker 8: number one option or a superstar, like, the worst thing
[1:16:26] Speaker 8: that could happen to you is traded to a bad city.
[1:16:30] Speaker 8: Straight into the Lakers, I'm pretty sure that Beverly Hills house,
[1:16:34] Speaker 8: you're going to get over it.
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: Ladera Heights.
[1:16:36] Speaker 4: That beach property, you're going to get over it. Them
[1:16:39] Speaker 4: celebrities at the game, you're going to get over it.
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: Ladera Heights. Hop on the 90, you're right at the beach.
[1:16:48] Speaker 8: I mean, obviously, when he got to the press conference,
[1:16:51] Speaker 8: he's been to the All-Star game, right?
[1:16:52] Speaker 2: He has.
[1:16:53] Speaker 4: He's been to the Olympics with his country, right? And
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: he said this was the biggest press conference he's ever seen.
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: Welcome.
[1:16:59] Speaker 4: Welcome.
[1:17:00] Speaker 8: Welcome to the big show. It's showtime here. He'll get
[1:17:04] Speaker 8: over it. He'll get over it, buddy. He still can
[1:17:08] Speaker 8: feel betrayed. He can feel betrayed.
[1:17:10] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:17:11] Speaker 4: Because the man went somewhere when he was 17 years old, man.
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: You sound like an old man. You did.
[1:17:19] Speaker 5: You sound country just right now. That man went somewhere
[1:17:22] Speaker 5: with a 17-year-old man.
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: No, I ain't going to.
[1:17:25] Speaker 1: Lie to you.
[1:17:25] Speaker 8: I'm going to just call him Papoose. Call him Papoose.
[1:17:28] Speaker 8: I feel betrayed. But I do got a champ. I
[1:17:32] Speaker 8: do got a champ on my arm, you feel me?
[1:17:34] Speaker 8: I held you down for a long time. I held
[1:17:35] Speaker 8: you down for a long time.
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: And that gots me a new one. Why you landing
[1:17:48] Speaker 2: on his feet? For sure. I'm landing on my feet, right? No,
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got dumped.
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: Talk about that part.
[1:17:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: You got your ass kicked out to the curb.
[1:17:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, you landed on your feet, though. Yeah, all cats
[1:18:01] Speaker 2: land on their feet. Somebody's ready to grab you.
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: Hey, but listen, you got to get the fuck out
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: of here, though. You can hear it in his voice, though.
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: You can hear it in his voice. You can see
[1:18:09] Speaker 2: it in his body language.
[1:18:10] Speaker 1: He's still.
[1:18:12] Speaker 4: He's still processing it, right? There's no way that boy
[1:18:14] Speaker 4: would have been ready to play. If he wasn't injured,
[1:18:16] Speaker 4: there's no way he.
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: Would have been ready to play, right? Like, tomorrow or
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: the next day. He needed a few days. He just
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: walked in.
[1:18:24] Speaker 4: He just walked in on his old lady with his
[1:18:26] Speaker 4: best friend. He just walked in on his old lady
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: with his best friend.
[1:18:31] Speaker 2: Damn sure. And he don't know what to do. Not
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: at all. Grab the Glock or just call it a day.
[1:18:37] Speaker 5: Or cry.
[1:18:38] Speaker 2: Shit! Cry on the car.
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: He cried on the plane. He cried. Next person move,
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: I'm letting off a rant.
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: Better not say nothing.
[1:18:47] Speaker 4: Better not say nothing. All I'm saying is, as soon
[1:18:50] Speaker 4: as you go outside, there's a group waiting for you.
[1:18:55] Speaker 4: I wake up and I'm sleeping in my car, so
[1:18:56] Speaker 4: he was dreaming.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: It don't feel the same.
[1:18:59] Speaker 2: It don't feel the same.
[1:19:01] Speaker 1: That's what it looked like on his face.
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: It just looked like he broke up with his sweetheart.
[1:19:04] Speaker 2: It looked the same. Lucas said he thought he was
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: gonna spend his entire career with the Mavs. Just bought
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: a $ 15 million house. Had a super max waiting for him.
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: Basically will stand to lose $ 116 million as a result
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: of that contract. No, he'll get the bread back.
[1:19:17] Speaker 1: But $ 116 million.
[1:19:18] Speaker 2: Fiancé. That's a fiancé.
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: It's a fiancé, and then they cut off the wedge.
[1:19:23] Speaker 4: And that's why I said.
[1:19:25] Speaker 2: With the no dollars.
[1:19:26] Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying.
[1:19:27] Speaker 2: When you get traded and you're gonna lose.
[1:19:29] Speaker 4: $ 300, and you got to go to Cleveland for $ 260.
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: Like, that hurts. Right, it is hard to process that
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: because you can't get it back in the market. Sorry, shit. Sorry, shit.
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: Sorry, shit.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: Can't get it back in the market, but if you're
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: telling me that you're going to backdoor me.
[1:19:46] Speaker 4: Mm.
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: No, it didn't. At least put some lube on. At
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: least put the lube on. Send me to New York.
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: Send me to goddamn Boston.
[1:19:56] Speaker 4: Send me to Chicago. Send me to L.A. At least
[1:19:59] Speaker 4: put some lube on. Make it feel a little bit better.
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: You broke up with me for a nigga in a wheelchair, man.
[1:20:05] Speaker 1: The fuck you supposed to do with all this?
[1:20:09] Speaker 2: Snooping training. I was giving you everything. Oh, shit.
[1:20:12] Speaker 5: Shit.
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: They got shit fucked up over there.
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: But look, hey.
[1:20:18] Speaker 4: Have we ever heard of anybody actually demanding to be
[1:20:22] Speaker 4: out of L.A.? No, don't quote me. That was just
[1:20:27] Speaker 4: a trick.
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: That was a trick. No, right?
[1:20:29] Speaker 5: The white?
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:20:31] Speaker 5: The white?
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: The white did.
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: The white did.
[1:20:33] Speaker 2: He wasn't built for that. Well, technically, he wasn't out.
[1:20:36] Speaker 8: What happened is free agency happened, and they didn't call
[1:20:39] Speaker 8: him the first day, so he.
[1:20:40] Speaker 4: Just signed somewhere else.
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: He didn't even wait for it. Yeah, he didn't even
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: wait to see if they were going to do something. Damn.
[1:20:46] Speaker 4: But for the most part, like, this is... You get here,
[1:20:49] Speaker 4: you feel happy here. No, he's going to wake up,
[1:20:51] Speaker 4: he's going to wake up. Dallas is a nice place,
[1:20:53] Speaker 4: trust me, but the sun is out.
[1:20:55] Speaker 6: Yeah, you.
[1:20:55] Speaker 1: But he's going to get to the facility, he's going
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: to see the players, he's going to be like... Yeah,
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: all right.
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: So, Gil, you mentioned Luka. Ah... Lucas ain't here ever.
[1:21:03] Speaker 1: Shit, I miss home.
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: Never been a part of a press conference that big.
[1:21:06] Speaker 2: The only thing, in Dallas, you can hide. Hey, them
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: banners make you think different, though. In Dallas, you can hide.
[1:21:10] Speaker 2: You can't hide in L.A.
[1:21:12] Speaker 5: You can't hide in L.A.
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: You can't hide in L.A.
[1:21:13] Speaker 4: At all.
[1:21:14] Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. There's no work in
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: Dallas like that. Not walking around.
[1:21:19] Speaker 4: I mean that, but not walking around like you can
[1:21:21] Speaker 4: go to the.
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: Grocery store and you see a grocery store.
[1:21:26] Speaker 5: Come on. 24-hour fitness.
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: Walk around to the game, drinking a beer. We go
[1:21:29] Speaker 2: 24-hour fitness. You see what we see in there.
[1:21:32] Speaker 5: Is that a Hyundai you need a sponsor I thought
[1:21:35] Speaker 5: you was out of my league I saw.
[1:21:49] Speaker 7: I saw.
[1:21:50] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:50] Speaker 5: I saw. I saw.
[1:21:50] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:51] Speaker 5: I saw.
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:52] Speaker 5: I saw.
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:53] Speaker 4: I saw.
[1:21:53] Speaker 2: I saw. I saw.
[1:21:55] Speaker 5: I saw. I saw.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:56] Speaker 5: I saw. I saw.
[1:21:56] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:21:57] Speaker 1: I saw.
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: I saw.
[1:22:19] Speaker 9: So we can come to a common ground.
[1:22:26] Speaker 2: We have a common ground when we talk about that.
[1:22:28] Speaker 2: The word getting into a hot dog.
[1:22:31] Speaker 4: In Dallas, I mean, they got wholesome women out there.
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: They got women trying to be independent. Yeah, they independent
[1:22:38] Speaker 1: down there. But you talk about Dallas. You talked about
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: Luka in the press conference today saying he had never
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: been in a press conference this big.
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: We got TMZ. We got media everywhere.
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:22:47] Speaker 2: You got Lakers fans who will, you know, the honeymoon
[1:22:50] Speaker 2: will be very brief. Let them have one bad game.
[1:22:52] Speaker 1: No.
[1:22:55] Speaker 4: How he plays the game, what he does, like, They
[1:23:00] Speaker 4: can call him fat out of shit.
[1:23:02] Speaker 5: Whatever you want to call him. But that's what I'm
[1:23:04] Speaker 5: talking about. He's probably eating like crazy in Dallas somewhere.
[1:23:05] Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck.
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: Cool. You catch him eating the.
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: Can I break down something for y'all? Luca, two words.
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: Two words. Simply wholesome, sir.
[1:23:12] Speaker 1: Can I break down something real quick?
[1:23:13] Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Big patties, whatever you need.
[1:23:15] Speaker 4: A fat man averaging 34, 9, and 8... 9 and 9?
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it.
[1:23:20] Speaker 5: I'm thinking about it. Michael Finley grabbed a beer, so
[1:23:24] Speaker 5: he must have been walking around Dallas.
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: 34, 9, and 9.
[1:23:30] Speaker 4: Hey, if he want to be Marcus Jordan out this bitch,
[1:23:33] Speaker 4: I'm going to look the other way.
[1:23:36] Speaker 2: If he want to get caught with the beer and
[1:23:38] Speaker 2: the coke, cool. Luka, do you.
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: How many players bounce back from Achilles?
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: It's his calf. How many players bounce back from Achilles? Depends.
[1:23:50] Speaker 4: If it's your jumping foot, not many.
[1:23:55] Speaker 8: The opposite, like Kevin Durant, it was his opposite foot.
[1:23:58] Speaker 2: So.
[1:23:59] Speaker 1: The way Luka plays and the injury that he has
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: with the weight that he sustained, the re-injury risk for
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: him is going to be more common than not, and
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: it's going to put him out more time. He had
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: a re-injury of the same. The calf strain. You see
[1:24:14] Speaker 1: what a calf strain is? It's borderline on where the
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: Achilles is, the calf Achilles. You look at McCaffrey, you
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: look at KD, both their calf muscles pop when you
[1:24:25] Speaker 1: can see it.
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: Luka's did the same thing. Luka was out how many games? 26.
[1:24:32] Speaker 1: If your strength and conditioning don't add up to your
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: recovery time that we have set for you for a
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: calf strain, you re-injure that calf strain, and you put
[1:24:42] Speaker 1: yourself in jeopardy to have a strained Achilles. Who else
[1:24:47] Speaker 1: had a strained Achilles?
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: Giannis. Playoffs. Bucks.
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: Missed the whole series. Came back next year. We don't
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: know how long that recovery stint was. We don't even
[1:24:57] Speaker 1: know if he had surgery or anything. But that calf
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: thing is big enough for them to question moving forward.
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't give a fuck what they're questioning.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: If he's not available for the Lakers, think about him
[1:25:12] Speaker 1: going back out there and re-injuring that and becoming what
[1:25:14] Speaker 1: AD was for the Lakers.
[1:25:16] Speaker 2: Injury prone.
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: You got another injury prone superstar. So what you going
[1:25:24] Speaker 1: to do now? We gave him to you. On the
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: strength of you diluting the picks of Dalton Connect and
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: first-round picks and say, no, no, no, listen, we're taking
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: on a real liability for you.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: You don't get that, too. All right, you're right, you're right,
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: you're right.
[1:25:40] Speaker 1: With the information we gave you, let's do this deal
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: before motherfuckers find out.
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: Let's do this deal before some motherfuckers find out. We
[1:25:47] Speaker 2: ain't tell nobody.
[1:25:48] Speaker 4: You know there's only one city complaining, right?
[1:25:53] Speaker 8: So I don't give a fuck what the reasons for it. Like,
[1:25:55] Speaker 8: you can say whatever reason you want. You can say
[1:25:59] Speaker 8: Anthony Davis was all Superman. Did anybody from L.A.
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: Say, oh, no? That's what I was saying.
[1:26:06] Speaker 1: Was there any funerals outside of Staples?
[1:26:09] Speaker 2: You know why it's bad?
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: Because all the players are now like, we don't know
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: what's going to happen.
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: KD's sitting around like.
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: Man, they really might send me anywhere. They really might
[1:26:21] Speaker 1: and not tell me nothing.
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: Not anywhere. It's L.A.
[1:26:24] Speaker 5: Anywhere.
[1:26:25] Speaker 2: No, that's it. No, because they was going to send Luca.
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: They was going to send wherever they could get him
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: off to. They're like, we need.
[1:26:31] Speaker 2: To get him somewhere.
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: Because you know what happened the last time this happened
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: particularly was in San Antonio with a particular guy who
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: we didn't know had an injury that was lingering. They
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: got off that asset. He went and won a championship.
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: But what has his career been since?
[1:26:48] Speaker 5: He won, though.
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: What has his career been since? That was the year after, too.
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: So he was able to get healthy. They got off
[1:26:55] Speaker 1: that asset. Dude that brought them a championship and an MVP.
[1:26:58] Speaker 2: No, he got off that asset. No, they got off him.
[1:27:01] Speaker 2: They pushed him out.
[1:27:02] Speaker 1: No, he didn't want to be in San Antonio. Go
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: back and look at the situation. Go back and look
[1:27:08] Speaker 1: at it. He didn't feel like they was diagnosing him right.
[1:27:11] Speaker 1: He's trying to figure out what was wrong with him too.
[1:27:14] Speaker 1: So his whole career, do you think the San Antonio
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: Spurs regret letting him go? Based on what's happened thus far?
[1:27:21] Speaker 2: Yes. What year was that? I mean, I can just assume.
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: After he left, 32 wins, 33 wins, 34 wins, 22 wins.
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: They rebuilt it. Just like they did to get Tim Duncan.
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: We're not going to stop. They got Wimby. They got
[1:27:38] Speaker 1: Wimby based on the trajectory.
[1:27:39] Speaker 2: That they went.
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Wimby right now based on the trajectory
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: they took.
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: So it worked out for them. Yeah, listen. They can
[1:27:55] Speaker 2: come out with.
[1:27:56] Speaker 4: Again, they can come out with anything they want to
[1:28:00] Speaker 4: try to justify it.
[1:28:02] Speaker 8: They're only justifying it to their fan base. Los Angeles
[1:28:09] Speaker 8: Lakers and the NBA does not actually care. We did
[1:28:15] Speaker 8: not say, oh, man, we just lost a two-way player.
[1:28:18] Speaker 8: They're like, did you notice he wrote.
[1:28:24] Speaker 2: Ah, hey, you know, it was a great time in L.A.
[1:28:27] Speaker 4: Did anybody respond back? Did anybody respond back yet?
[1:28:36] Speaker 2: Nah, they played like they didn't see it. Do we care?
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: Do we care as Hoopers, though? Hell yeah, I'm a
[1:28:41] Speaker 2: Laker fan. So, Sean, to your point, though, you have
[1:28:45] Speaker 2: to be a little bit cautious as the Lakers to
[1:28:47] Speaker 2: try and figure out why the Mavs would want to
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: come off of Luka for what a lot of people
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: would consider. We've seen all these crazy trades in recent years.
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: We've seen what Gobert got. We've seen what Donovan Mitchell got.
[1:28:56] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: Rob Palenka sitting there like, AD Max Christie in the
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: first seems a little light. He doing what Gil's doing.
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: That's what Rob is thinking. Like, you want to do what?
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: But it is Luka Doncic, though.
[1:29:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Luka. Like, it's Luka.
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: 25 years, though.
[1:29:11] Speaker 2: Soon to be 26 at the end of Black History Month.
[1:29:14] Speaker 5: But AD's a good player, though. Talking about the picks
[1:29:17] Speaker 5: and shit, though. But you sent AD in, like, three picks?
[1:29:21] Speaker 2: We did. We did. But we didn't... He gone. He's
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: not here anymore. No, but I'm saying, but we only
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: had one pick, right? One first. You can't send three picks.
[1:29:33] Speaker 2: I don't care what we send. Yeah, it is. For Luca, yes,
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: you do.
[1:29:37] Speaker 8: You're talking about a 25-year-old superstar.
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: Yo, they would have did it. The Lakers would have
[1:29:44] Speaker 2: did it. I mean, how many.
[1:29:48] Speaker 4: Next three first-round picks, the Lakers would have did it
[1:29:50] Speaker 4: for you.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: How old was Shaq when he left Orlando?
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: He signed here, right? I went with Shaq when he left.
[1:29:57] Speaker 1: He got traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.
[1:30:00] Speaker 2: He did? I thought he signed as a free agent.
[1:30:03] Speaker 2: Junior when he came in, so it was what? Yeah,
[1:30:05] Speaker 2: he signed as a free agent. I thought he signed
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: as a free agent. He did?
[1:30:08] Speaker 1: He was, I believe, 23 when he left.
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: When he left Orlando? Yeah.
[1:30:17] Speaker 1: Played his last season in Orlando.
[1:30:18] Speaker 2: He was 23. He was 24 when he played with
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: the Lakers. Then was he traded or? No, I thought
[1:30:22] Speaker 2: he was a free agent. Yeah, it was a free
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: agent's trade. And we got three championships.
[1:30:28] Speaker 5: Out of.
[1:30:31] Speaker 4: Him.
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: You let him go? Orlando, you let him go?
[1:30:35] Speaker 2: They didn't think he was going to leave. Kobe was younger.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: Kobe got drafted. They said he let Shaq walk. When? Orlando,
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: you and Penny.
[1:30:46] Speaker 1: You and Penny just took us to the conference finals.
[1:30:49] Speaker 1: I'm saying, at 23 years old, why am I letting
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: Shaq walk in free agency? One of the things they
[1:30:54] Speaker 1: did was that they voted in an Orlando newspaper, like,
[1:30:57] Speaker 1: should you give Shaq $ 100 million? And it was a
[1:30:59] Speaker 1: large percentage of people that voted no, and that really
[1:31:01] Speaker 1: pissed off Shaq.
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was money back then. They didn't really... Them
[1:31:06] Speaker 2: $ 100 million was.
[1:31:07] Speaker 4: They wasn't being signed yet. That's what happened when.
[1:31:11] Speaker 2: You got one of the motherfuckers... teams that they added
[1:31:16] Speaker 2: to the NBA. Wasn't original. The original teams would have
[1:31:23] Speaker 2: been like, you goddamn right.
[1:31:24] Speaker 8: I mean, there's just one of these things you don't justify.
[1:31:28] Speaker 8: If Memphis got off of Ja after that, trust.
[1:31:31] Speaker 4: Me, whoever got him was not going to question him.
[1:31:35] Speaker 8: If San Antonio right now says, oh, we're going to
[1:31:36] Speaker 8: give up Wimby, trust me, that other side is not
[1:31:38] Speaker 8: going to question. We don't care why you're giving up
[1:31:41] Speaker 8: a 25-year-old. You can say his weight. You can give
[1:31:46] Speaker 8: me whatever excuse you want. Because he's 25. So he
[1:31:51] Speaker 8: can get on a diet. We can fix his conditioning.
[1:31:54] Speaker 8: We can do whatever. He's 20.
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: He's not a 30-year-old. He's 25. Most 25-year-olds.
[1:32:01] Speaker 8: Pelicans is not even giving off a goddamn Zion.
[1:32:05] Speaker 2: They sit here like, hey, we got you this. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
[1:32:14] Speaker 2: As soon as he come in, 32. He reminded us all. Like,
[1:32:19] Speaker 2: they're not even coming off of him.
[1:32:22] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:32:22] Speaker 8: And like I said, he's so young, I don't know
[1:32:26] Speaker 8: if I'd trade him yet.
[1:32:27] Speaker 4: 28, 29, you're in your.
[1:32:29] Speaker 8: You're like, you're setting your stone.
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: 25, you're not setting your stone.
[1:32:33] Speaker 1: 24-year-old Brandon Roy, do you guess he goes that trajectory?
[1:32:37] Speaker 4: His name?
[1:32:38] Speaker 2: His name?
[1:32:39] Speaker 8: No, no, they knew that in the draft. He was
[1:32:41] Speaker 8: bone to bone in the draft. That's why he went seven.
[1:32:44] Speaker 8: If you look at his, what's the name, they already said,
[1:32:47] Speaker 8: the best player in the draft, rookie.
[1:32:49] Speaker 2: Of the year.
[1:32:49] Speaker 1: So listen to what you just said. They knew shit
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: the public didn't know. They knew shit the fans didn't know.
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: They knew shit. They knew at some point this boy
[1:32:57] Speaker 1: needs going to give the fuck out because we see
[1:33:00] Speaker 1: the bone on bone before we drafted him.
[1:33:02] Speaker 2: We making a decision, right?
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: This is, I mean, this is the decisions these people
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: got to make.
[1:33:08] Speaker 2: They got to make.
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: Decisions where, hey man, is he going to be here
[1:33:12] Speaker 1: long term?
[1:33:13] Speaker 2: Is he going to be available long term? Available. Available.
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: The way he play, but the way Luka play, he's going.
[1:33:21] Speaker 2: To keep getting re-injured.
[1:33:23] Speaker 1: That's an injury that you move off of a step.
[1:33:25] Speaker 5: He's trading for a guy that's.
[1:33:26] Speaker 2: Not available and older.
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: He's trading for a non-available guy. AD played 76 games
[1:33:30] Speaker 1: last season.
[1:33:31] Speaker 2: AD about to play in a couple days. He's been
[1:33:35] Speaker 2: playing the most games in his career.
[1:33:37] Speaker 5: Finally.
[1:33:37] Speaker 2: This year.
[1:33:38] Speaker 5: And I took getting punked by everybody telling him he's
[1:33:41] Speaker 5: soft and shit.
[1:33:42] Speaker 2: That was the proof to people.
[1:33:43] Speaker 1: We've been telling Robin, you need to take off that cape, boy.
[1:33:48] Speaker 1: And Robin's like, it all comes together. I can't take
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: the cape off without taking.
[1:33:53] Speaker 2: The whole thing. So back to back, you guys brought up.
[1:33:55] Speaker 5: A.D.
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: Was like, I'm leaving. He said, all right. Palika was like...
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: All right, man.
[1:34:02] Speaker 5: He knew. He knew.
[1:34:06] Speaker 2: All right, man.
[1:34:08] Speaker 5: For Luka. For Luka. All right. Where you sitting?
[1:34:12] Speaker 2: Hey, close the door behind you, please. Let that wind in. Hey,
[1:34:16] Speaker 2: is Luka out there?
[1:34:16] Speaker 5: I ain't coming back.
[1:34:19] Speaker 2: I ain't coming back to this motherfucker. He don't be
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: trying to. Now you know if you train me, I
[1:34:23] Speaker 2: ain't coming back.
[1:34:24] Speaker 5: I ain't coming back.
[1:34:25] Speaker 2: All right, man.
[1:34:26] Speaker 5: Look.
[1:34:27] Speaker 8: Hey, man.
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: Been helping y'all keep the fire down.
[1:34:29] Speaker 2: Get to the door and look back over your shoulder.
[1:34:31] Speaker 5: Look back.
[1:34:32] Speaker 2: You sure? He gone now.
[1:34:34] Speaker 5: Now go and keep that magnum. That's what he said.
[1:34:37] Speaker 5: Now go and keep that magnum.
[1:34:40] Speaker 2: So you guys brought up Shaq earlier. Blue, you ain't nothing.
[1:34:43] Speaker 2: Before Shaq came to the Lakers, Orlando Sentinel conducted a
[1:34:47] Speaker 2: poll asking whether Shaq was worth $ 115 million. Over 90%
[1:34:52] Speaker 2: of the some 5,000 people who responded didn't feel Shaq
[1:34:55] Speaker 2: was worth that money. We saw what happened after that.
[1:34:57] Speaker 2: He went on the Lakers, won three trips. But let's
[1:34:59] Speaker 2: get back to Luka real quick. It's bad business. Wait,
[1:35:03] Speaker 2: hold on. You said... Wait. It's bad business.
[1:35:07] Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[1:35:10] Speaker 2: It's bad business. They did a real poll. Orlando Sentinel.
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: And how many people?
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: And how many people? So, uh, 5,000 people. 5,000. And
[1:35:21] Speaker 2: over 90%. So about 4,500 of those people, you know.
[1:35:25] Speaker 2: He left after what year? The third? Jack decided to
[1:35:28] Speaker 2: leave because of 5,000 people? His fourth season. So he...
[1:35:32] Speaker 2: So he averaged 23, 29, 29, 26. Roundup, go 26.6.
[1:35:35] Speaker 2: You know, this is the arena. They beat the Chicago,
[1:35:40] Speaker 2: which Michael Jordan. And 5,000 people voted. 4,500 of those 5,000.
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: Are they still alive?
[1:36:01] Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure they committed suicide after that.
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: I mean, that's not what we were advocating for here
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: on this program. Hope that they lived good life and
[1:36:08] Speaker 2: regret and agony. Hope that they lived. To vote no
[1:36:12] Speaker 2: on that poll. Just hoping they were disappointed. I'm trying
[1:36:14] Speaker 2: to figure out what did they see before Shaq got there.
[1:36:17] Speaker 2: They probably heard that number.
[1:36:19] Speaker 4: Before Shaq got there, like, yeah, he ain't worth it.
[1:36:23] Speaker 2: Didn't see much. I think the magic had only been around.
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: 29 and 13. That's crazy. Had Disney World and Universal
[1:36:31] Speaker 2: Studios both popping at those points. 23. Lost their luster.
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: How'd they lose? Did Nick Anderson miss free throws?
[1:36:38] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: But let's get back to Luka. During the press conference,
[1:36:44] Speaker 2: Lakers GM Rob Palenka, who was wearing that snug-fitting leather jacket.
[1:36:48] Speaker 2: Hardest man in the world. Very tight leather jacket, was
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: asked about having Luka on the roster and building around
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: him going forward. Here's what he said. It's a gift.
[1:36:59] Speaker 12: We're talking about a 25-year-old that is top three player
[1:37:04] Speaker 12: in the universe. I can't think of a more amazing
[1:37:10] Speaker 12: starting point to build a roster for the next decade.
[1:37:16] Speaker 12: I know he has the drive to win that we
[1:37:18] Speaker 12: have here. Our fans are going to see that every
[1:37:22] Speaker 12: night on the court. I know up here he might
[1:37:24] Speaker 12: seem calm and casual and quiet, but We know the
[1:37:28] Speaker 12: alter ego comes out and we'll see it at crypto.com soon.
[1:37:34] Speaker 2: And I can't wait for it. So before I ask
[1:37:37] Speaker 2: the question, I just got a Lucas beard looking very well. Man,
[1:37:40] Speaker 2: whoever his barber is. Shout out JC. We share a
[1:37:44] Speaker 2: barber with Luca in case you guys were wondering. No, no, no.
[1:37:47] Speaker 2: Luca shares a barber with us. Thank you, Kane, for
[1:37:50] Speaker 2: correcting me once again. Don't do that shit. However Luca
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: want to say it. JC in the arena today.
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: How's that?
[1:38:00] Speaker 2: I got cut yesterday. Luka is the number one haircut
[1:38:02] Speaker 2: option now.
[1:38:03] Speaker 4: No, he cut his first and then went over there. So, no,
[1:38:05] Speaker 4: we still first. So, I got my haircut yesterday. But
[1:38:08] Speaker 4: did you get it cut today?
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: I didn't need one today.
[1:38:10] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:38:10] Speaker 2: I didn't need one today.
[1:38:11] Speaker 5: All right.
[1:38:12] Speaker 2: Josiah. Can we stick together, can you? I noticed you
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: did not rub the Luka jersey when you walked in
[1:38:20] Speaker 2: or at all during this. It's a Bronny jersey. It's
[1:38:23] Speaker 2: two sevens. It's a Bronny jersey. No, it was a
[1:38:27] Speaker 2: Bronny jersey.
[1:38:28] Speaker 1: It's a Luka jersey now.
[1:38:30] Speaker 2: It's a Lakers jersey, but the name on the back
[1:38:32] Speaker 2: says Bronny James. Yeah, Luka Bron. Luka James. Luka James.
[1:38:36] Speaker 2: Luka James. Because they're about to combine.
[1:38:37] Speaker 4: For some shit.
[1:38:39] Speaker 2: But first and foremost, Palenka said, Luka, top three basketball
[1:38:43] Speaker 2: players in the year.
[1:38:43] Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
[1:38:44] Speaker 2: First, you better be correct when that white man talking.
[1:38:47] Speaker 2: He said gift.
[1:38:48] Speaker 5: Gift.
[1:38:49] Speaker 2: First. With a capital T. Gift. First.
[1:38:56] Speaker 8: Top three not in the world. The universe mean in
[1:39:00] Speaker 8: space and everything over aliens and shit.
[1:39:04] Speaker 2: The monster.
[1:39:05] Speaker 4: So you can see how he values.
[1:39:09] Speaker 2: This entity. You got it, right?
[1:39:12] Speaker 5: Over UFOs.
[1:39:13] Speaker 2: What? ET and all. All that shit. All that shit. Oh,
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: look at that point. Over all this. Over this. Dark
[1:39:23] Speaker 2: Vein and all that. I am your father. Over that.
[1:39:25] Speaker 4: Top three in the universe.
[1:39:27] Speaker 2: So is it fair to say that viewership will go up?
[1:39:30] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[1:39:32] Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
[1:39:34] Speaker 2: On Spectrum Sportsnet? Internationally.
[1:39:37] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:39:38] Speaker 4: It's already up internationally.
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: I said going up. I said going up. You said no.
[1:39:43] Speaker 2: Cable, no.
[1:39:43] Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense for you to say that.
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: You should think about what I'm saying before you just...
[1:39:50] Speaker 1: It's going to go up.
[1:39:51] Speaker 5: It's going up.
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: Which means there's no other place to go but up
[1:39:55] Speaker 1: for you if a product is going up and the
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: teams are unifying and going up.
[1:40:01] Speaker 2: Who said it's down? We know who said it's down.
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: It's the whole conversation we've just been having.
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: Cable TV is saying it's down because NBA left cable?
[1:40:10] Speaker 2: I just said it's going up. who said it's down.
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be down to go up.
[1:40:17] Speaker 2: It don't have to be down.
[1:40:18] Speaker 5: Fuck!
[1:40:18] Speaker 2: He just want to be against me so bad. It
[1:40:21] Speaker 2: don't have to be down for it to go up.
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: But you're not using, you're just, you're not. Because you
[1:40:26] Speaker 2: just don't want to hear me talk by myself. You're
[1:40:28] Speaker 2: saying going up, like. He just don't want to hear
[1:40:30] Speaker 2: me talk by myself. He's like, shut up, nigga. That
[1:40:33] Speaker 2: ain't going up. It's going down. Shut up.
[1:40:35] Speaker 1: I don't think that's what's being said. I don't like
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: hearing your fucking voice, nigga. Shut up.
[1:40:38] Speaker 5: That ain't it.
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: That ain't right. What?
[1:40:40] Speaker 2: But you're indicating that something's wrong? No, I'm not indicating shit.
[1:40:43] Speaker 2: I said it's going to go up. How do we know?
[1:40:45] Speaker 2: How can you prove that?
[1:40:46] Speaker 5: Oh, because it went up.
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: Do you know what it is now?
[1:40:48] Speaker 5: That's all everybody knows.
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: How can I.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: Prove that Luka Doncic going to the Lakers is going
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: to improve viewership?
[1:40:54] Speaker 2: You want me to prove that? Yes.
[1:40:58] Speaker 1: Actually, yeah.
[1:40:58] Speaker 2: Okay, let me show you why.
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: We just did a fucking episode on Gil's Arena. And
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: we had 80,000 people.
[1:41:09] Speaker 2: 85. 85, okay.
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: But right now, you go back to the episode.
[1:41:15] Speaker 2: A great episode. You all should go back as well.
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: 743,000 people wanted to know about Luka and the new movement.
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: That alone should be a metric to say... If we're
[1:41:28] Speaker 1: a part of the viewership of the NBA, which I
[1:41:31] Speaker 1: think we are because we drive all the new narratives.
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: So that means they're watching us. They're watching the league.
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: They can't wait to see this.
[1:41:37] Speaker 2: So I think they came to see us, regardless of
[1:41:39] Speaker 2: Luka got traded or not. That's just my personal opinion.
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: Just saying, it looked like the shit going up because
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: we just broke records and shit.
[1:41:45] Speaker 2: That's for sure going up.
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: So Laker fans that were watching LeBron James, Luka fans
[1:41:51] Speaker 4: that was watching Luka in his country.
[1:41:54] Speaker 1: Have a reason to tune in. He plays for the
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: Lakers now.
[1:41:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing for tomorrow.
[1:41:57] Speaker 1: We're going to L.A.
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: But it wasn't tuned in. The excitement going to L.A.
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: The difference between us going to Dallas from over here
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: and now going to Los Angeles is different.
[1:42:05] Speaker 4: It wasn't tuning in before, those two entities?
[1:42:08] Speaker 2: But you know what I mean. Come on, Gil, you
[1:42:09] Speaker 2: know what I mean. I know what you're trying to imply. Yeah,
[1:42:14] Speaker 2: I get it.
[1:42:15] Speaker 5: But I know you're trying to imply that it never
[1:42:17] Speaker 5: was them, but he didn't say that.
[1:42:20] Speaker 2: He just said it's going up.
[1:42:22] Speaker 4: And how is he going to prove that? I want
[1:42:25] Speaker 4: him to start proving his statements.
[1:42:26] Speaker 2: So on a social level, Gil, just some facts for
[1:42:28] Speaker 2: you guys.
[1:42:29] Speaker 5: I know.
[1:42:29] Speaker 2: Say it. NBA has more social media followers than any
[1:42:32] Speaker 2: other sports league.
[1:42:33] Speaker 1: Hit it again.
[1:42:33] Speaker 2: They have more than what? Any other. More social media
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: followers than any other sports league. Let him finish, man.
[1:42:39] Speaker 2: Say it again. Go. Okay. Thank you, Gil. Appreciate it.
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: Let me help. More social media followers than any other
[1:42:44] Speaker 2: sports league. NFL, MLB, NHL, MLS. Larger than any sports
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: governing body as well. IOC. NBA has two times more
[1:42:53] Speaker 2: Instagram followers than the other four major U.S.
[1:42:55] Speaker 1: Leagues.
[1:42:56] Speaker 2: Combined. Combined, right? So there are two times than every
[1:42:59] Speaker 2: other sport combined. Keep going, sir. That's all I have. Oh,
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: I mean, we can do over.
[1:43:03] Speaker 5: You can keep going higher, though. You don't... You want
[1:43:06] Speaker 5: to stay here? No.
[1:43:07] Speaker 2: Okay, no.
[1:43:08] Speaker 4: Because this narrative of the NBA viewership is down is
[1:43:13] Speaker 4: because the people who's reporting it, cable TV warning them,
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: the NBA left them. So it's like a bitter bitch
[1:43:21] Speaker 4: crying about, oh, yeah, the numbers is down, but.
[1:43:26] Speaker 4: Where's the proof to this because where we're standing we're
[1:43:30] Speaker 4: worldwide sports We're overseas.
[1:43:33] Speaker 8: We're in different countries. Where is where is the number
[1:43:37] Speaker 8: you think China has TNT? They're watching there's no TNT
[1:43:41] Speaker 8: metrics for them. There's no CBS for them So they're
[1:43:44] Speaker 8: watching it on platforms that obviously Warner Cable is not
[1:43:48] Speaker 8: gonna provide.
[1:43:49] Speaker 2: For us But can it still go up though, boy?
[1:43:53] Speaker 4: Are you gonna prove it?
[1:43:54] Speaker 1: What did you just say, man? Don't you know I
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: got access to data?
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: You have access to Instagram people that's sending you stuff.
[1:44:04] Speaker 1: I don't know why you try to use me with data.
[1:44:06] Speaker 1: I work in the data community, Gilbert. Do you want
[1:44:10] Speaker 1: me to run you my fucking resume about why I
[1:44:13] Speaker 1: know television?
[1:44:13] Speaker 2: Show me your data.
[1:44:14] Speaker 1: Do you want me to show you that? Yeah, let's go.
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: You want me to show you the three different platforms
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: that's offered me opportunity to have.
[1:44:21] Speaker 2: Actual networks on there? Okay, I'm not going to go
[1:44:23] Speaker 2: here with you. I want to see your data on this.
[1:44:26] Speaker 2: Go to your phone. Analyst. Go to your data.
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: Linear TV is what? What is linear TV? You know
[1:44:31] Speaker 1: what that word means? Do you know what linear TV is? Okay,
[1:44:37] Speaker 1: he don't know what linear TV is. Linear TV is
[1:44:40] Speaker 1: the shit you call the cable. That's ABC. You know
[1:44:44] Speaker 1: the Roku shit? All the shit you can add on
[1:44:46] Speaker 1: the apps and all that shit. Do you add that
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: shit onto linear TV?
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: Does that count as the same?
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: No. It don't?
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: Of course not. Let's see. Let's see if it adds up.
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: And while we're saying, go ahead and download the Underdog app.
[1:45:02] Speaker 2: Use promo code Gil. You get $ 1, 000 of bonus cash
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: plus a special pick-up. You can use those pick-ups on
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: Luca when he returns.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: Gil's argument is because the NBA is not on linear
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: TV that the reason we're seeing.
[1:45:13] Speaker 2: I did not say we're on linear TV. I said cables.
[1:45:15] Speaker 2: He's not saying what you're saying.
[1:45:17] Speaker 5: Okay?
[1:45:18] Speaker 2: Just listen before you rebut him. Let's all stick together.
[1:45:21] Speaker 1: Gil's argument is that the NBA is not on linear TV,
[1:45:25] Speaker 1: that the reason all the numbers are down and all the.
[1:45:27] Speaker 2: Other streaming platforms... There are.
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: Supposed to be 500 million Chinese people watching the Laker games.
[1:45:32] Speaker 2: That's horseshit. Watching the NBA. Watching the NBA, not just
[1:45:36] Speaker 2: the Lakers. That's horseshit.
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: First things first is it doesn't matter if folks are
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: using alternative apps, legal platforms, or streaming services such as
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: playback or YouTube because those numbers don't count as selling ads.
[1:45:49] Speaker 2: The name of the game is selling ads.
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: If the content is behind a paywall.
[1:45:54] Speaker 2: This man is reading somebody else's thing. What do you
[1:45:57] Speaker 2: do every time?
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: What do you do on your phone?
[1:46:00] Speaker 2: Where are your facts coming from?
[1:46:02] Speaker 1: Someone from Instagram DM'd him.
[1:46:05] Speaker 2: Now keep going. Where are you getting your facts? You're
[1:46:08] Speaker 2: getting your facts from a website? You're getting your facts
[1:46:10] Speaker 2: from a website? What is wrong with y'all? Go, go, go.
[1:46:14] Speaker 2: He don't hate. Quickly, quickly, quickly.
[1:46:17] Speaker 3: He hate losing.
[1:46:18] Speaker 2: He hate losing. He hate losing. Keep reading, please. He
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: hate losing. Keep reading.
[1:46:22] Speaker 1: He hate losing.
[1:46:23] Speaker 4: Keep reading somebody else's report.
[1:46:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to keep reading somebody else's. You know
[1:46:28] Speaker 2: I got a bad ear, Nick.
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: Those numbers don't count because they're behind a paywall. The
[1:46:34] Speaker 1: viewership is counted differently because they already paid. The subscription,
[1:46:40] Speaker 1: you already paid. It's paid now.
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: Whether you watch or not.
[1:46:42] Speaker 1: It's counted differently.
[1:46:44] Speaker 2: Netflix doesn't care if you watch your show as long
[1:46:45] Speaker 2: as you pay the subscription.
[1:46:46] Speaker 1: The reason why NBA runs behind a paywall is because
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: the more global and every country can't get NBC, boo, boo, boo,
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: which is free in America, per our laws of nation
[1:46:57] Speaker 1: broadcasting companies, which is why when you said you go
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: from free to paid, you're going to lose viewership.
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: Because that's what I said last time. You're going from
[1:47:07] Speaker 2: free to pay.
[1:47:07] Speaker 1: You don't go from YouTube to Patreon and think you're
[1:47:09] Speaker 1: not going to lose viewership because you're giving it for free.
[1:47:13] Speaker 1: I'm not going to go from free to pay for
[1:47:14] Speaker 1: this when I just had it for free. You're going
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: to lose viewership just by default. But you're going to
[1:47:20] Speaker 1: show different numbers because downloads and streams are counted what?
[1:47:24] Speaker 2: Differently. Hold on. He don't like it. I'll just say
[1:47:30] Speaker 2: something real quick. Please. I understand everything you're saying. But
[1:47:33] Speaker 2: the NBA just signed an 11-year, $ 76 billion agreement. The
[1:47:38] Speaker 2: new one, right? The new agreement.
[1:47:40] Speaker 1: That the other one was $ 25 billion?
[1:47:42] Speaker 2: I think.
[1:47:43] Speaker 1: My point is, so whatever we're saying, that starts next year.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: The numbers went up, right? So the bread is still
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: flowing in. Do you know why the numbers go up?
[1:47:52] Speaker 1: Because you have to reach now a new metric.
[1:47:55] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:47:56] Speaker 1: You have to now reach a whole... This is the
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: landing spot for you. $ 76 billion, you got to read
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: that money. That money got to come back to us.
[1:48:03] Speaker 2: But they already paid it to the... Okay.
[1:48:05] Speaker 4: All right, all right.
[1:48:06] Speaker 5: So.
[1:48:06] Speaker 4: That's why Luca... That was a nice read, my brother.
[1:48:08] Speaker 4: You did very great from somebody else's work.
[1:48:10] Speaker 2: Well, let's see what you got. So let's... So you're
[1:48:12] Speaker 2: saying that... Don't get on your fucking phone, either.
[1:48:15] Speaker 1: Let's go.
[1:48:15] Speaker 2: You got in yours, right? Let's go.
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: So.
[1:48:19] Speaker 8: You're saying because it's not free anymore and it's behind paywall, now.
[1:48:25] Speaker 2: This free entity.
[1:48:27] Speaker 4: can only go off the views from them.
[1:48:31] Speaker 8: They don't know what's happening under paywall because that's not
[1:48:35] Speaker 8: their situation, right? So how are the viewers down if
[1:48:39] Speaker 8: this entity, we left here, we're here now.
[1:48:44] Speaker 2: So you can't tell us what the views are up or.
[1:48:50] Speaker 8: Down Because it's not a part of your platform anymore.
[1:48:54] Speaker 2: Your platform is free. You're a cable. You don't know
[1:48:57] Speaker 2: what's happening on the streaming services.
[1:49:01] Speaker 4: So when you're reporting your numbers, of course they're going
[1:49:05] Speaker 4: to be down on your platform because everybody else shifted
[1:49:09] Speaker 4: to another platform.
[1:49:10] Speaker 2: And I understand what you're.
[1:49:12] Speaker 8: Trying to say is they don't know how to do
[1:49:13] Speaker 8: the numbers because everyone already paid for the subscription, right?
[1:49:18] Speaker 2: You use Netflix.
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: On occasion. No, you said Netflix when he said that.
[1:49:22] Speaker 4: I'm just saying. What was football on? What was the Christmas?
[1:49:26] Speaker 2: They were on Netflix. Did they have real numbers in
[1:49:27] Speaker 2: real time? They reported numbers, but those Netflix is traditionally
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: very secretive about their streaming. But they reported.
[1:49:34] Speaker 1: No numbers.
[1:49:35] Speaker 2: They didn't report no numbers. Stop trying to push that.
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: They didn't report no numbers. So keep going. Let me
[1:49:42] Speaker 2: go use the bathroom. Can you look up the numbers
[1:49:45] Speaker 2: that they reported? These niggas are crazy. They say that
[1:49:49] Speaker 2: it drew 30 million.
[1:49:49] Speaker 1: 30 million.
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a number there. And Ravens, Texas was
[1:49:52] Speaker 2: 31.3 million. Okay, so they have numbers. That's what was reported.
[1:49:56] Speaker 2: What was on cable? There wasn't no cable, right?
[1:50:01] Speaker 1: So how many viewers did you lose?
[1:50:07] Speaker 4: What?
[1:50:07] Speaker 1: How many viewers did you lose if it's not on cable,
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: it's only on this platform? It used to be free
[1:50:13] Speaker 1: where everybody could just come in and watch it. How
[1:50:16] Speaker 1: many viewers did you lose by making it a paid
[1:50:18] Speaker 1: thing only?
[1:50:21] Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, sir. You don't know.
[1:50:27] Speaker 1: Do you agree that you lost some? You agreed that
[1:50:31] Speaker 1: you lost some.
[1:50:31] Speaker 8: We lost it here because we gained it here. The
[1:50:34] Speaker 8: average audience between... eights or however.
[1:50:37] Speaker 4: Between the ages of this, 20, was it 34? They're
[1:50:41] Speaker 4: on their phones now.
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: They don't watch cable. How many people on cable?
[1:50:45] Speaker 1: On your phone is cable. Your phone is cable. He's
[1:50:48] Speaker 1: using a flawed argument. That's flawed. Everybody watches cable on
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: their phone.
[1:50:52] Speaker 2: I'll let you eat cable. What is cable itself down? 57%
[1:50:55] Speaker 2: lost 5.7 million people this year. So if cable is down...
[1:51:02] Speaker 2: across the board. That means people are leaving it.
[1:51:05] Speaker 8: They're going to platforms because it's cheaper.
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: Bro, it's this thing called live channels.
[1:51:11] Speaker 1: Live channels are on every single streaming platform where you
[1:51:15] Speaker 1: can go watch the live channel, the free shit on
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: the actual platforms that you're saying that.
[1:51:22] Speaker 5: Are not on your phone.
[1:51:23] Speaker 2: It's on your phone.
[1:51:24] Speaker 1: I can watch live channels.
[1:51:26] Speaker 2: I can watch.
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, all that shit on
[1:51:30] Speaker 1: my phone, on Amazon, any of them.
[1:51:33] Speaker 2: Now, let's try this again.
[1:51:35] Speaker 8: Since you don't do your own research, Nelson don't have
[1:51:40] Speaker 8: those numbers.
[1:51:41] Speaker 2: They don't have Amazon's number. They don't have Hulu's number.
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: They don't have a streaming service number.
[1:51:47] Speaker 8: They only have their data. Sir, overseas, what are they using?
[1:51:55] Speaker 8: Different streaming services.
[1:51:56] Speaker 2: They don't have their... They don't have.
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: Live channels. Cable TV is on the apps now.
[1:52:06] Speaker 5: Apps.
[1:52:06] Speaker 1: So that means it's not only on linear TV, it's
[1:52:09] Speaker 1: on the phone.
[1:52:10] Speaker 2: But to the point I think Gil's trying to make,
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: we're just talking about the TV angle, but you also
[1:52:14] Speaker 2: got to talk about what's going on. TV is now
[1:52:16] Speaker 2: on phone, bro. I understand all that.
[1:52:18] Speaker 1: It's no longer just sit in front of the fucking TV.
[1:52:20] Speaker 4: ESPN on TV and ESPN app is two different things.
[1:52:23] Speaker 1: So you can talk about traditional viewership.
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: It's on Hulu.
[1:52:26] Speaker 2: It's live channels.
[1:52:27] Speaker 5: It's live on Hulu.
[1:52:27] Speaker 2: It's live channels.
[1:52:28] Speaker 5: And it's live channels on Paramount and shit like that.
[1:52:30] Speaker 2: You're talking about live viewership. That research, man. So if
[1:52:34] Speaker 2: you're watching.
[1:52:34] Speaker 5: You don't have it, man?
[1:52:35] Speaker 2: If you're watching... What are you saying, man? If you
[1:52:38] Speaker 2: are watching on... Shut up, man.
[1:52:40] Speaker 4: If you're watching on an app, you don't have those numbers, man.
[1:52:43] Speaker 2: Don't say that to the world, man. So, but to
[1:52:45] Speaker 2: the other point, you talk about TV viewership, but there's
[1:52:47] Speaker 2: a lot more components to it. You talk about something
[1:52:49] Speaker 2: like YouTube, where the NBA is the first professional sports
[1:52:52] Speaker 2: league to surpass 20 million subscribers, 12 billion lifetime video
[1:52:55] Speaker 2: views on the platform. According to reports, every 90 days,
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: the NBA reaches over 75 million unique viewers on YouTube.
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: who watch on average more than 35 minutes of content
[1:53:04] Speaker 2: on the channel.
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: So regardless of all that, let's get back to the
[1:53:09] Speaker 1: topic at hand.
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: They just say what the fuck ever.
[1:53:11] Speaker 1: Luka Doncic, who I think led to this, took us
[1:53:13] Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole.
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: Do your own research. We heard what Rob Palenka said. Luka,
[1:53:17] Speaker 2: top three basketball player in the universe. That's what we
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: was talking about? Can't you know? I'm always going to
[1:53:23] Speaker 2: bring it back. Motherfucker, people in the chat be sending
[1:53:25] Speaker 2: him that shit. The same people send you all that shit?
[1:53:27] Speaker 2: I do my own research.
[1:53:29] Speaker 1: Whatever, nigga. I do my own thing.
[1:53:32] Speaker 2: I had a whole conversation. Working a hot dog. Working
[1:53:34] Speaker 2: a hot dog. Working a hot dog.
[1:53:37] Speaker 4: Where'd you get yours from? Me.
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: Who sent you?
[1:53:38] Speaker 1: Me. Guy I work with, the data analyst I work with,
[1:53:44] Speaker 1: work for my company.
[1:53:45] Speaker 8: I got CBS and Peacock.
[1:53:46] Speaker 2: That's cool. Had a whole conversation about that. That's cool.
[1:53:48] Speaker 2: You got to go there. You got to go there. Yeah,
[1:53:50] Speaker 2: I want to be right. Yeah, because you want to win.
[1:53:51] Speaker 2: I don't just want to talk. You can't beat me.
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: I don't want to just talk, man. You can't beat me.
[1:53:55] Speaker 2: I want to be right. I want to be right.
[1:53:57] Speaker 2: NBC can't help you. I ain't giving right answers to
[1:53:59] Speaker 2: these people. Hey, NBC helped him and he still got cooked.
[1:54:03] Speaker 2: You can't cook facts. NBC helped him. You can't cook facts, dawg.
[1:54:06] Speaker 2: NBC helped. You can't cook facts.
[1:54:09] Speaker 1: Now we got to look at NBC like, what the
[1:54:11] Speaker 1: fuck are y'all doing?
[1:54:12] Speaker 2: Y'all got to prepare your boy a little bit better.
[1:54:14] Speaker 2: You can't cook facts.
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: Shit. That nigga came to the barbecue with no meat.
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: You can't cook facts. You can't cook facts. You can't
[1:54:21] Speaker 2: go to the barbecue with just barbecue. You can't cook facts, man.
[1:54:24] Speaker 2: That's just, that's how it goes. Roasted on the motherfucking fire.
[1:54:28] Speaker 8: Nigga read a whole DM just saying shit wrong.
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: We got Nick back. We got Swaggy P back in
[1:54:33] Speaker 2: the building. Nelson and Nelson Mandela.
[1:54:40] Speaker 5: That's something. Nielsen.
[1:54:41] Speaker 4: It's Nielsen.
[1:54:42] Speaker 2: We heard what Rob DeLiga said. You scared the fuck
[1:54:45] Speaker 2: out of him. And I never seen Kenyon jump. Kenyon's like, what.
[1:54:48] Speaker 4: The fuck was that?
[1:54:49] Speaker 2: It was my bad ear. I didn't realize he was
[1:54:51] Speaker 2: reading somebody else's writing.
[1:54:52] Speaker 4: Motherfucker reading a script over there.
[1:54:55] Speaker 1: Are the Lakers.
[1:54:56] Speaker 2: Why are you getting so serious? He's putting his own word.
[1:54:58] Speaker 2: You see how it triggered? when I do what he do.
[1:55:02] Speaker 9: When I start doing what he do he don't like
[1:55:04] Speaker 9: that shit like I'm the only one supposed to be
[1:55:05] Speaker 9: reading shit from other people I'm the only person supposed
[1:55:09] Speaker 9: to be reading shit that Ronnie say and all these
[1:55:11] Speaker 9: other things Otis Smith Otis Smith told me all this
[1:55:14] Speaker 9: shit about woo woo woo.
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: The GM man get the fuck out of here let's
[1:55:20] Speaker 1: take a breather Luka coming to Los Angeles was supposed
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: to unite the city Kendrick won five Grammys there's a
[1:55:25] Speaker 1: lot of good positive things going on but we heard we.
[1:55:28] Speaker 5: Heard My work helped me cook.
[1:55:30] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:31] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:32] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:33] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:34] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:35] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:37] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:38] Speaker 5: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:39] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:39] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:40] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:41] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:44] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:44] Speaker 1: The work helped me cook.
[1:55:45] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:47] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:51] Speaker 5: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:52] Speaker 2: The work helped me cook. The work helped me cook.
[1:55:54] Speaker 5: The work.
[1:55:56] Speaker 2: I don't want to say respect. Like, AD didn't get
[1:55:58] Speaker 2: the respect. He didn't. AD was respected. But he was too...
[1:56:01] Speaker 2: He was... I don't know. Luka's a bucket, man. It's
[1:56:05] Speaker 2: hard to.
[1:56:06] Speaker 5: It's hard to take the ball away from somebody that
[1:56:09] Speaker 5: can do so much. At Luka's age, he's, like, on
[1:56:15] Speaker 5: pace to do what LeBron's doing.
[1:56:17] Speaker 2: Stat-wise, almost.
[1:56:19] Speaker 5: If he plays as many games, but nobody gonna... I
[1:56:21] Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna play that long, but somebody that averaged...
[1:56:26] Speaker 5: down there at 37 points, it's hard to get him
[1:56:30] Speaker 5: off the ball.
[1:56:31] Speaker 2: LeBron's going to have to be AD now. And do
[1:56:34] Speaker 2: you think LeBron will have any issue with that?
[1:56:35] Speaker 5: No, I think he respects Lucas to that point where
[1:56:39] Speaker 5: he knows he can't do that.
[1:56:42] Speaker 2: He can't force Luka out or get Luka out.
[1:56:45] Speaker 5: He'll be gone before Luka will.
[1:56:49] Speaker 2: And I don't feel like.
[1:56:51] Speaker 5: He needs somebody like that because AD wasn't You can't
[1:56:57] Speaker 5: just give A.D. the ball and say, huh, you can
[1:56:59] Speaker 5: give it to him sometime, but you can't give it
[1:57:01] Speaker 5: to him at the top of the key and go
[1:57:03] Speaker 5: get a bucky like that.
[1:57:08] Speaker 2: And you say he was? He didn't respect A.D.? That's
[1:57:11] Speaker 2: his boy.
[1:57:12] Speaker 5: Who? LeBron. He didn't respect him enough to be like Batman,
[1:57:19] Speaker 5: to make him Batman? His name didn't hold weight like that.
[1:57:23] Speaker 4: I can't, you can't make somebody Batman, either you're Batman
[1:57:26] Speaker 4: or you're not. There's no, either you're Batman or you're not.
[1:57:31] Speaker 4: If you're having troubles taking over the team from a 40-year-old,
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: something's wrong with you personally. I guarantee you, Luca's not
[1:57:37] Speaker 4: gonna have no issues shooting that motherfucker every time.
[1:57:40] Speaker 5: No, but don't he respect LeBron? I'm saying, he respected
[1:57:44] Speaker 5: LeBron that much.
[1:57:45] Speaker 2: He'd be like, all right, he became too friendly. He
[1:57:47] Speaker 2: was doing that in Pelicans. Drew Holiday was shooting all
[1:57:53] Speaker 2: the shots, right? At the end of the game?
[1:57:55] Speaker 4: Wasn't he the big shot maker back then?
[1:58:01] Speaker 5: Was it? Or they had Eric Gordon, him.
[1:58:04] Speaker 2: It was him, Rondo.
[1:58:07] Speaker 5: Nah, it was AD.
[1:58:10] Speaker 2: No, he was the best player.
[1:58:11] Speaker 4: But at the end of the games.
[1:58:12] Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to put a big in that situation.
[1:58:16] Speaker 2: So now we got two people who is considered not playing.
[1:58:21] Speaker 5: Right?
[1:58:21] Speaker 4: If that's what everybody's complaining is about LeBron, and then
[1:58:24] Speaker 4: we have AD, who's the guy that's going to.
[1:58:27] Speaker 2: Take the team over? There we go. Let's move to
[1:58:33] Speaker 2: this side of the couch. Kenny, do you feel like
[1:58:36] Speaker 2: the Lakers are Luka's team now? No. It's still LeBron's team? Yeah.
[1:58:43] Speaker 4: Why do you feel that way? Did he choose the
[1:58:45] Speaker 4: evil today? No, I'm just saying, it's not his team yet.
[1:58:49] Speaker 4: Until the boy leaves. Until LeBron leaves? Until LeBron leaves,
[1:58:53] Speaker 4: it's not his team. It's Luka's, man. The man don't
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: know how to defer. Until he showed me he know
[1:59:01] Speaker 4: how to defer, I believe what I see with my
[1:59:05] Speaker 4: own two eyes.
[1:59:05] Speaker 2: But who do you have to defer to, though? LeBron
[1:59:07] Speaker 2: has to defer to Luka.
[1:59:09] Speaker 5: Now, it's Luka's team, but who did he have to
[1:59:12] Speaker 5: defer to before Luka?
[1:59:14] Speaker 4: You just asked if it's Luka's team. I'm not finna
[1:59:17] Speaker 4: argue with you because you two niggas arguing, bruh. Like,
[1:59:20] Speaker 4: we're not finna fucking do that.
[1:59:21] Speaker 2: I didn't say it was them.
[1:59:22] Speaker 5: I don't want to do.
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: Shit like this. Okay, we're not finna fucking argue. Motherfuckers!
[1:59:26] Speaker 5: I don't want to do none of that shit.
[1:59:27] Speaker 2: That shit is crazy.
[1:59:28] Speaker 5: You're just going to hit me in the side of
[1:59:30] Speaker 5: my head just for saying the word.
[1:59:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not this man's team.
[1:59:33] Speaker 5: If you grab me by my knee like that.
[1:59:35] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, y'all think y'all opinion beats... It's not
[1:59:37] Speaker 2: this man's team until that man leaves.
[1:59:38] Speaker 4: If it was a different guy, yes, it would be
[1:59:42] Speaker 4: Luka's team right now when he suits up.
[1:59:44] Speaker 2: But, no, it's not. This won't be until....
[1:59:49] Speaker 4: He's too dominant of a presence.
[1:59:54] Speaker 2: It's hard to... Too dominant of a presence. I don't care.
[1:59:58] Speaker 5: Still.
[1:59:59] Speaker 2: Will Paul say they need to get off of LeBron?
[2:00:01] Speaker 1: Raid him?
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, bro.
[2:00:04] Speaker 5: No.
[2:00:05] Speaker 4: In order for it to be totally... It's just not.
[2:00:07] Speaker 2: It ain't gonna work. Do you think LeBron, 40 years old,
[2:00:10] Speaker 2: year 22... has reached a point in his career where
[2:00:13] Speaker 2: he can say, all right, I've now got a guy
[2:00:15] Speaker 2: who's going to take the key. Yes, he has that.
[2:00:17] Speaker 2: Five-time first team, all-NBA selection. He has that, absolutely. Do
[2:00:20] Speaker 2: you think he has the ability to do that?
[2:00:22] Speaker 4: No. In his game right now, I don't think he,
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: until he showed me that he's going to defer to Luka,
[2:00:28] Speaker 4: and then I'll believe it. But it's going to be
[2:00:32] Speaker 4: hard to change them stripes, man, on that zebra, man.
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: What did the defer look like? It looked like him
[2:00:37] Speaker 1: sitting on the side waiting for the ball?
[2:00:39] Speaker 4: In clutch times and in the games, Luka got the
[2:00:44] Speaker 4: ball in his hands, and in the game, he's coming out,
[2:00:48] Speaker 4: calling the plays for him at the end of the game.
[2:00:50] Speaker 4: He making the decisions. LeBron is the screener. But we've
[2:00:54] Speaker 4: seen LeBron do that before. Yeah, I was about to say,
[2:00:56] Speaker 4: we've seen LeBron playing at the four. Hey, Arden shot
[2:00:59] Speaker 4: a lot of last double shots.
[2:01:00] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But still was the.
[2:01:04] Speaker 4: He didn't defer, though. One through three quarters, and Kyrie
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: took over in the four. But he didn't defer, though.
[2:01:09] Speaker 4: You still didn't defer that man, dawg.
[2:01:11] Speaker 2: It's just... What did Anthony Davis average? Oh, it was
[2:01:15] Speaker 2: like 25.
[2:01:15] Speaker 5: 25? Yeah.
[2:01:16] Speaker 4: And what LeBron averaging? Like 23, 22. Still ain't deferring
[2:01:21] Speaker 4: just because the man getting more shots.
[2:01:23] Speaker 2: Still....
[2:01:25] Speaker 4: At the end of games, if he's getting off the
[2:01:26] Speaker 4: ball and he's... Then I would say yes.
[2:01:30] Speaker 2: LeBron's averaging 24-9 and eight rebounds. Let me ask you this.
[2:01:33] Speaker 1: Do you think J.J. is prepared to incorporate Luka as
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: fast as they need him to?
[2:01:38] Speaker 2: No.
[2:01:39] Speaker 1: With LeBron there and all the shit they tried to establish.
[2:01:41] Speaker 2: Not being the first year head coach, not having no experience,
[2:01:43] Speaker 2: absolutely not.
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying? You see what type
[2:01:45] Speaker 1: of adjustments they had to make?
[2:01:46] Speaker 2: Absolutely not. All you gotta do is just put them
[2:01:48] Speaker 2: out there. No, it ain't that simple, Nick. You crazy
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: as hell. It ain't that simple, though.
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: How long did it take Dallas to get adjusted to
[2:01:54] Speaker 1: him being at Dallas?
[2:01:55] Speaker 4: So, to add, hold on, to add KD to a
[2:01:58] Speaker 4: situation that you already got established, hold on just a minute,
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: to add KD to a situation you already got established, easy.
[2:02:04] Speaker 2: Yep. Easy plug and play. Facts.
[2:02:07] Speaker 4: Don't need the ball. efficient in his approach. Superstar, you
[2:02:13] Speaker 4: already got a winning coach, you already got pieces in
[2:02:16] Speaker 4: place that's easy to plug him in with that. Because
[2:02:20] Speaker 4: the way the ball, the way they play. You remember
[2:02:22] Speaker 4: what I said, the average 29 assists as a team
[2:02:25] Speaker 4: when they was winning, at they peak. That ball moving,
[2:02:28] Speaker 4: so everybody, that's not the case here. That's not the case.
[2:02:33] Speaker 4: Their number one guy, Steph Curry, used to playing without
[2:02:38] Speaker 4: the ball. The number one guy in this situation has
[2:02:45] Speaker 4: the ball in his hand. Why do you think Chris
[2:02:48] Speaker 4: Paul and James Harden didn't work?
[2:02:51] Speaker 5: That worked.
[2:02:54] Speaker 2: That worked. The fuck did they win? That worked. They
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: had us in game seven.
[2:02:58] Speaker 4: So now everything's about getting second fucking place once again.
[2:03:01] Speaker 1: It worked.
[2:03:02] Speaker 2: It did not work.
[2:03:03] Speaker 5: He got hurt.
[2:03:05] Speaker 2: It was up when he was winning, so it worked.
[2:03:08] Speaker 5: If I got hurt, y'all up 3-2. I can't play
[2:03:11] Speaker 5: the last two games, of course. But if he's going
[2:03:13] Speaker 5: to play, he's going to say he won. What did
[2:03:15] Speaker 5: they win? They won.
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: Nothing. Everything.
[2:03:21] Speaker 5: Nothing. He won.
[2:03:22] Speaker 2: He got a big-ass contract after that. So that's what it's...
[2:03:27] Speaker 2: And it was number one. Keep moving. So move the
[2:03:29] Speaker 2: goalposts again. Nick, my leg ain't that strong.
[2:03:31] Speaker 5: I just do what y'all do.
[2:03:32] Speaker 2: Nick, my leg ain't that strong. I just do what
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: y'all do. Nick, my leg ain't that strong. I just
[2:03:34] Speaker 2: do what y'all do. Hey, my leg ain't that strong.
[2:03:36] Speaker 5: To say something don't work is like what Phoenix is doing.
[2:03:39] Speaker 5: If I'm number one, that works and I get hurt
[2:03:42] Speaker 5: in a Western Conference final.
[2:03:43] Speaker 2: That's nothing I could do. That's what I'm saying. Did
[2:03:48] Speaker 2: they win? They got hurt.
[2:03:50] Speaker 4: Did they win? You're not answering my question.
[2:03:52] Speaker 2: I'm number one, so yes.
[2:03:53] Speaker 1: So you're going to answer the question when you won.
[2:03:54] Speaker 5: When I played, we was number one.
[2:03:56] Speaker 2: Did they win? Yes, when I was number one, I played.
[2:03:59] Speaker 2: Did the Rockets win the NBA championship with Chris Paul
[2:04:01] Speaker 2: and James Harden? No, I played.
[2:04:05] Speaker 4: So they won the NBA championship? I must have been
[2:04:07] Speaker 4: in a coma for that NBA season.
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: No, no.
[2:04:09] Speaker 4: I was a vegetable for that period of time.
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: No. Oh, Lord. I got to take this. Hey, turn
[2:04:18] Speaker 2: my mic off.
[2:04:19] Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
[2:04:20] Speaker 2: You all right? Oh, shit.
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: It's that call.
[2:04:25] Speaker 2: All right, well.
[2:04:27] Speaker 1: He might be.
[2:04:27] Speaker 2: He's to the Lakers. He might be. Uh-oh. He's to
[2:04:29] Speaker 2: the Lakers. It's definitely that call for sure. Yeah, it's
[2:04:32] Speaker 2: that call. We can get.
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: But we asked the chat, whose team is it? Lucas
[2:04:40] Speaker 2: or LeBron? Lucas. Lucas. Lucas.
[2:04:44] Speaker 1: 1,000%.
[2:04:44] Speaker 2: 55% said Lucas. It wasn't... He's the creator now.
[2:04:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: LeBron doesn't need to create for him. How he plays
[2:04:55] Speaker 4: the game, he is going to be LeBron James. He's
[2:04:59] Speaker 4: going to be the guy who's creating and giving LeBron
[2:05:03] Speaker 4: easier buckets.
[2:05:05] Speaker 8: His pick and roll... leaves LeBron with all the energy
[2:05:09] Speaker 8: in the world. So, fast break, LeBron goes pick and roll,
[2:05:12] Speaker 8: LeBron can go to the rim.
[2:05:13] Speaker 2: Like, he's gonna be the guy.
[2:05:17] Speaker 8: Like, LeBron doing, making all the plays and getting frustrated, no,
[2:05:20] Speaker 8: Luka can do all that. You can sit there in
[2:05:22] Speaker 8: the corner, when I drive, you can slash, get the
[2:05:24] Speaker 8: little easy dunks.
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot easier. And we've seen LeBron
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: come off the ball.
[2:05:29] Speaker 4: Slash, cut, yeah, you slash, cut, beat, beat, beat. Like,
[2:05:33] Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot easier. Because he don't have
[2:05:35] Speaker 4: to be, he don't have to. He don't have to
[2:05:38] Speaker 4: do all of that the first three quarters.
[2:05:40] Speaker 5: Man.
[2:05:42] Speaker 2: Lucas, 25, let him do it. It's kind of like me.
[2:05:45] Speaker 5: When I'm playing in my adult leagues, I need my
[2:05:47] Speaker 5: main scorer to release a lot, because I can't carry
[2:05:51] Speaker 5: the team no more.
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: You can't carry your adult league team?
[2:05:53] Speaker 5: No, I can't carry the team no more, so I
[2:05:55] Speaker 5: need a main scorer that can do it.
[2:05:58] Speaker 2: He ain't going to be quite a corner boy. He's
[2:06:00] Speaker 2: going to be like a corner slash to the basket.
[2:06:02] Speaker 2: It's easier, you know, get it, drive, open lanes. Ain't packed. Ah,
[2:06:13] Speaker 2: no leg cut there. So let's keep this thing moving.
[2:06:18] Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say nothing. So this Luka trade is
[2:06:20] Speaker 2: something being discussed throughout the entire sports world. Yesterday, three-time
[2:06:23] Speaker 2: Super Bowl champ Patrick Mahomes. A known Mavs fan answered
[2:06:28] Speaker 2: a question about the Luka trade at Super Bowl opening night.
[2:06:30] Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
[2:06:31] Speaker 10: As a Dallas fan, it hurts me, but I'm happy
[2:06:33] Speaker 10: for him that he's going to be able to go
[2:06:34] Speaker 10: out there and be in L.A. and get to try
[2:06:37] Speaker 10: to achieve his dream of winning a championship. He did
[2:06:39] Speaker 10: so much, not only for the basketball team, but for
[2:06:41] Speaker 10: the city of Dallas. So I'll always be appreciative of
[2:06:44] Speaker 10: those years. But I'm excited for the Mavericks moving forward
[2:06:47] Speaker 10: and the guys they brought in.
[2:06:49] Speaker 2: And before I continue, I just want to say, you
[2:06:50] Speaker 2: saw the NFL try to take over Christmas. God bless
[2:06:53] Speaker 2: Luka and the NBA for trying to take over Super
[2:06:56] Speaker 2: Bowl week. Now you got to answer Luka's question. This
[2:06:58] Speaker 2: is supposed to be y'all week. I forgot there was
[2:07:00] Speaker 2: a game Sunday. We'll be on it. Is this Sunday? Yes.
[2:07:04] Speaker 5: I forgot.
[2:07:04] Speaker 2: Man, we did take over. Adam Silver need to be
[2:07:07] Speaker 2: an asshole and move the trade deadline to Super Bowl Sunday.
[2:07:10] Speaker 2: Just to see. Just to see.
[2:07:13] Speaker 4: Unless you're going to trade LeBron James.
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. LeBron and motherfucking Giannis and Wimby are
[2:07:21] Speaker 2: all together.
[2:07:21] Speaker 4: Trade them all. You ain't competing with that date. Just
[2:07:24] Speaker 4: throw it out there. These four are on the market.
[2:07:26] Speaker 5: Right now.
[2:07:27] Speaker 1: That date.
[2:07:29] Speaker 2: Order 66. But that's the perspective. We talked about Mahomes,
[2:07:32] Speaker 2: what he said. That's the perspective of a Mavs fan
[2:07:35] Speaker 2: who also just happened to be the best quarterback in
[2:07:37] Speaker 2: the world. But he wasn't the only person reacting to
[2:07:39] Speaker 2: the trade. So Anthony Edwards was asked about the trade
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: after the Wolves lost to the Kings last night. Here's
[2:07:44] Speaker 2: what Ant-Man said.
[2:07:45] Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's crazy. At 25, they traded probably the
[2:07:52] Speaker 6: best score in the NBA at 25.
[2:07:55] Speaker 1: He didn't know about it.
[2:07:56] Speaker 6: So there's a lot more digging somebody got to do
[2:07:58] Speaker 6: to find out why he got traded. Because you don't
[2:08:01] Speaker 6: just trade him at 25. He just went to the finals,
[2:08:03] Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? So, I feel bad for Luka, man.
[2:08:06] Speaker 6: I saw some on YouTube that said he just bought
[2:08:08] Speaker 6: a crib and everything in Dallas.
[2:08:10] Speaker 2: So, that sucks, man. That sucks. Does it inform, like,
[2:08:13] Speaker 2: you at 23? Everybody gets informed, yeah. I was going
[2:08:15] Speaker 2: to say, like, I'm scared. I'm scared.
[2:08:20] Speaker 6: Tim, if you're going to trade me, let me know, dog.
[2:08:26] Speaker 2: When Luka got traded, anybody is able to get traded
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: at that point. Don't be scared, man. Don't be scared.
[2:08:33] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: Even MSA, he's scared to get traded at 23. He's scared, huh?
[2:08:39] Speaker 2: He's scared.
[2:08:39] Speaker 4: No, he's a small market, bro. Hey, one thing we
[2:08:44] Speaker 4: know about Tim Connolly.
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: He do his job. He'll be respectful about it, too.
[2:08:49] Speaker 1: He'll pull up on you, let you know what's going on.
[2:08:51] Speaker 1: Like he did for Cat. Yeah, so he real about it.
[2:08:54] Speaker 2: There wasn't no text. So therefore, he's not afraid to
[2:08:57] Speaker 2: do something. We know that.
[2:08:58] Speaker 4: I ain't saying he gonna move, man. But just know
[2:09:02] Speaker 4: Tim is a businessman first, and he runs his organization.
[2:09:04] Speaker 4: He does his job very well.
[2:09:07] Speaker 2: So we got Ant-Man saying, you know, he's scared. Maybe
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: he ingests. Again, traded at 23. Along those same lines,
[2:09:15] Speaker 2: Knicks guard Josh Hart tweeted this. He said, so who
[2:09:21] Speaker 2: are the untouchables in the league? Well, Josh Hart, we
[2:09:23] Speaker 2: appreciate you. Your ass ain't. You better be happy, motherfucker.
[2:09:29] Speaker 2: So let's ask the couch. Who do you believe is
[2:09:32] Speaker 2: still untouchable as far as trade talks go? I only
[2:09:39] Speaker 2: have one person, but y'all go ahead.
[2:09:41] Speaker 4: No, it's... Is two friends, I mean, are two best
[2:09:46] Speaker 4: friends negotiating this, or is this just regular GMs?
[2:09:51] Speaker 1: Wimby.
[2:09:53] Speaker 2: You all right? Shit me. I'll say you all right.
[2:09:55] Speaker 1: Wimby off limits.
[2:09:56] Speaker 4: For a trade, yeah. Let him hit that lesson. I mean,
[2:10:03] Speaker 4: I'm not trying to let him go either. I ain't
[2:10:05] Speaker 4: trying to let him go. Okay, that sounds good.
[2:10:07] Speaker 1: We just saying off limits. Like, we not trying to
[2:10:10] Speaker 1: do that.
[2:10:10] Speaker 2: Come with that Yankees bag.
[2:10:12] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:10:13] Speaker 2: That Dodgers bag. Shit, that Mets bag.
[2:10:16] Speaker 1: That's out of our control.
[2:10:17] Speaker 2: I ain't no black.
[2:10:17] Speaker 1: I ain't no black. Everybody has to move around. Shout
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: out Juan Soto.
[2:10:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever.
[2:10:24] Speaker 1: One-legged threes in the corner, man.
[2:10:26] Speaker 2: I say Joker. Untouchable? Like, as in Denver trying to
[2:10:32] Speaker 2: trade Joker right now behind his back? No, I don't
[2:10:35] Speaker 2: see that. Yeah, he going to come to L.A. Why
[2:10:38] Speaker 2: do you think they move A.D.? Shot now, that's the...
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: Who's the only person he say he play with? They
[2:10:47] Speaker 2: are buddies. That's been in the running for three years.
[2:10:50] Speaker 1: Denver on the road doing what right now? We see
[2:10:53] Speaker 1: how much joy they have. Denver doing what right now?
[2:10:56] Speaker 1: We see how much joy they have together. You get
[2:10:57] Speaker 1: off Joker, send LeBron somewhere, do a three-team trade with Denver.
[2:11:01] Speaker 1: Denver and the Warriors. Denver and the Warriors.
[2:11:04] Speaker 2: They want LeBron to get traded. Like, what's up with
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: all this hate? That man ain't going nowhere.
[2:11:10] Speaker 5: God, everybody hate LeBron.
[2:11:13] Speaker 2: Nobody, you know, it's just, you know, time's up. Time's up.
[2:11:15] Speaker 5: Time's up. This is the reason they brung him here
[2:11:22] Speaker 5: for LeBron.
[2:11:22] Speaker 1: We seen this movie 25.
[2:11:24] Speaker 2: It's TGIF right now.
[2:11:28] Speaker 1: Every Friday, we got the same episode.
[2:11:31] Speaker 5: What, winning?
[2:11:32] Speaker 2: Next up on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.
[2:11:35] Speaker 2: Everybody does that. Who do you feel like is untouchable
[2:11:42] Speaker 2: in the league right now, or is anybody untouchable after
[2:11:45] Speaker 2: we've seen this Luka trade? 25 years old, five straight
[2:11:50] Speaker 2: first team All-NBAs.
[2:11:59] Speaker 4: We're asking questions for no reason. Like, why aren't we
[2:12:06] Speaker 4: just looking at the fucking obvious? Two best friends is
[2:12:11] Speaker 4: having discussions behind the scenes. Two best friends.
[2:12:15] Speaker 2: And there are other friends in the league, though.
[2:12:16] Speaker 8: Two best friends are having discussions behind the... That, like,
[2:12:21] Speaker 8: I don't... It's two best friends having a discussion about trading.
[2:12:29] Speaker 4: At that point... resume don't matter. They're trying to do
[2:12:33] Speaker 4: whatever makes those two happy.
[2:12:35] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[2:12:36] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: I can't put no value on, Jai, you're going to
[2:12:39] Speaker 2: get traded. Like, we're looking at Zion.
[2:12:42] Speaker 8: We're watching him come in and out, and they're not
[2:12:44] Speaker 8: moving not an inch.
[2:12:46] Speaker 2: So I can't sit there and say, who's unsafe?
[2:12:50] Speaker 8: Because this trade was poison from the beginning. This is
[2:12:56] Speaker 8: not like something happened, and then they've been talking for
[2:12:59] Speaker 8: two months.
[2:13:00] Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
[2:13:02] Speaker 2: So the question is... Two months before he got injured,
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: he having a conversation. Yeah, like he said, it started...
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: He said about a month ago. If it would have
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: got out, it would have been no straight.
[2:13:12] Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm saying this is something that these two
[2:13:15] Speaker 8: are having a conversation about. Rob Palenka has dropped the
[2:13:19] Speaker 8: ball in the summer, right? He hasn't figured out how
[2:13:22] Speaker 8: to trade. He missed the.
[2:13:23] Speaker 2: Ball on it. So his best friend is probably telling him, hey, man,
[2:13:27] Speaker 2: we ain't happy with this motherfucker over here, blah, blah, blah.
[2:13:29] Speaker 8: These are, I can't, I can't say that Ant-Man is tradable.
[2:13:34] Speaker 4: No.
[2:13:34] Speaker 1: But wait.
[2:13:35] Speaker 2: I can't.
[2:13:36] Speaker 1: What about other friends in the league?
[2:13:38] Speaker 2: They just not the only two. But according to reports,
[2:13:41] Speaker 2: there was another team who was presented with this. That's
[2:13:43] Speaker 2: what I'm saying. According to reports, there was another team
[2:13:45] Speaker 2: who was presented with this offer.
[2:13:46] Speaker 1: What I'm getting at is, I hear what you're saying,
[2:13:48] Speaker 1: but let's just say around the league, there are two
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: pairs of friends along, GM owner, whatever, that's having private
[2:13:56] Speaker 1: conversations that got Ant-Man thinking, shit, I'm kind of scared
[2:14:00] Speaker 1: because what happened is Nico and Rob took a chance on.
[2:14:06] Speaker 2: A ripple effect.
[2:14:08] Speaker 1: The ripple effect is all we need is one person
[2:14:11] Speaker 1: to break the window. We're going to start rioting. All
[2:14:14] Speaker 1: we need is the window to go down. We don't
[2:14:15] Speaker 1: know who broke it, but there's still whatever is in
[2:14:18] Speaker 1: that motherfucker. That's all they needed was somebody to be
[2:14:21] Speaker 1: the first. Oh, you traded away what? Oh, everybody can go.
[2:14:27] Speaker 5: But why should they be afraid in the first place?
[2:14:29] Speaker 1: The players?
[2:14:30] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:14:31] Speaker 2: Because they don't got control no more.
[2:14:32] Speaker 1: The player liberation age that just happened with LeBron doing
[2:14:36] Speaker 1: what he did for the last 10, 11 years, that
[2:14:40] Speaker 1: liberation for players, they trying to take that shit back.
[2:14:44] Speaker 2: But if you get traded, you get traded.
[2:14:47] Speaker 5: Like, If I was Anthony Edwards and I got traded
[2:14:49] Speaker 5: to the Lakers, I'd be.
[2:14:51] Speaker 1: Would you feel good about getting traded to Utah Jazz?
[2:14:57] Speaker 5: If they was winning, probably, but I'm saying.
[2:14:59] Speaker 2: If they not. But it's a business.
[2:15:02] Speaker 5: Exactly. If you go into a business being afraid, as
[2:15:05] Speaker 5: long as you do your part, I feel like you
[2:15:07] Speaker 5: shouldn't have nothing to worry about.
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: I agree.
[2:15:08] Speaker 1: But what happens if you do your part and they
[2:15:10] Speaker 1: ship your ass off to Utah and they last in
[2:15:13] Speaker 1: the league? Do you stop playing? High caliber basketball? Did
[2:15:18] Speaker 1: you stop trying to.
[2:15:19] Speaker 2: Be an all-star?
[2:15:19] Speaker 5: You can always pull a Jimmy Butler. Right?
[2:15:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can pull a Jimmy Butler. He's still
[2:15:27] Speaker 2: going to get his money.
[2:15:29] Speaker 1: Is he?
[2:15:30] Speaker 5: We'll see.
[2:15:33] Speaker 1: They saying what they did to Luka they should have
[2:15:36] Speaker 1: did to Jimmy.
[2:15:37] Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have.
[2:15:37] Speaker 1: They said Jimmy deserving more of that type of treatment
[2:15:41] Speaker 1: of behind your back, just do it, not tell you.
[2:15:44] Speaker 1: Because of the antics that was going on. Luka wasn't
[2:15:47] Speaker 1: going back and forth with Jimmy. He didn't have no
[2:15:49] Speaker 1: reason to riff, publicly, anyway. So they're like, oh, man.
[2:15:53] Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying.
[2:15:54] Speaker 4: We're trying to figure out why these two did what
[2:15:57] Speaker 4: they did.
[2:15:58] Speaker 2: Like, I.
[2:15:58] Speaker 5: Like....
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: You're making everybody feel like.
[2:16:04] Speaker 4: If Conley's brother, is he still a general manager?
[2:16:08] Speaker 2: Let me see. Tim Conley? Yeah, Tim Conley and you got...
[2:16:14] Speaker 2: Tim Conley is where? He's with Tim. Okay, here we go.
[2:16:18] Speaker 2: Is he with Denver too or no? This is like.
[2:16:20] Speaker 4: This is like right.
[2:16:21] Speaker 13: Now, Denver doing a deal with Wolves where.
[2:16:32] Speaker 2: Michael Porter Jr.
[2:16:34] Speaker 8: And Russell Westbrook get traded for Ant-Man to go to Denver.
[2:16:40] Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but y'all, y'all both came from the same organization.
[2:16:44] Speaker 8: You both was at the Wizards at the same time, right?
[2:16:47] Speaker 8: So the deal y'all are making is not normal to
[2:16:49] Speaker 8: everybody else. So I'm not going to say, oh my God,
[2:16:52] Speaker 8: they just traded Ant-Man to go win a championship, right?
[2:16:59] Speaker 2: Y'all are the sneaky leaks right here. This is some
[2:17:03] Speaker 2: sneaky leak shit.
[2:17:04] Speaker 1: But when we found out it's sneaky shit, we are
[2:17:08] Speaker 1: now put on watch through the ripple effect some sneaky
[2:17:12] Speaker 1: shit going on. Maybe we should start being sneaky too.
[2:17:15] Speaker 1: But like the man, true, absolutely. We should just keep
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: our shit private. Well, more people should do business that way.
[2:17:19] Speaker 1: The way that they just did it, it was clean.
[2:17:21] Speaker 1: It looked like they'd be doing it.
[2:17:22] Speaker 2: What do I hate? What do I hate? What do
[2:17:25] Speaker 2: you hate, Ken? Reports.
[2:17:28] Speaker 4: Don't report me shit, right? Reportedly, you hate allegedly. Like,
[2:17:31] Speaker 4: fuck all that shit. Like, tell me when the shit
[2:17:33] Speaker 4: about to go, it happened. Before me then, don't give me,
[2:17:37] Speaker 4: so keep it between y'all two. Like the man said,
[2:17:39] Speaker 4: it started over. a joke-based solution, would you ever?
[2:17:43] Speaker 2: And they're like, would you? And you leave it there, right?
[2:17:47] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:17:47] Speaker 2: And now you go home, you're thinking like, damn, what
[2:17:50] Speaker 2: would this look like? Wait, are they trying to get
[2:17:52] Speaker 2: rid of this motherfucker? No, not even that. Both sides.
[2:17:55] Speaker 2: Both sides, right?
[2:17:56] Speaker 4: It just start as us sitting around just like this.
[2:17:59] Speaker 4: We talk like, shit, would you? And you be like, man, shit, oh, man.
[2:18:05] Speaker 4: Then your mind start going when you get home.
[2:18:06] Speaker 2: Like, Shit, could I actually? What would this look like?
[2:18:10] Speaker 2: How would this? And then you presented somebody else, right? Mm-hmm.
[2:18:14] Speaker 2: And they like... Nigga. Nigga, you only... Then you presented
[2:18:18] Speaker 2: somebody else. They like, shit, if it was me.
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: I might.
[2:18:22] Speaker 2: Right, that's all... I might. I might. That's all it takes.
[2:18:25] Speaker 2: That's all it takes. I might. Hey, shit, if it
[2:18:27] Speaker 2: was me, dog.
[2:18:28] Speaker 5: The Lakers then traded Kwame Brown for Paul Gasol.
[2:18:32] Speaker 2: Why? That's what I'm saying. It's not the first thing.
[2:18:35] Speaker 1: Who was on.
[2:18:36] Speaker 2: The other side who had... Jerry West. That was a
[2:18:39] Speaker 2: Jerry West. What I'm saying is when we.
[2:18:42] Speaker 1: Jerry West and the Lakers did a deal.
[2:18:45] Speaker 2: That was a friend thing. That's what he said. I'm
[2:18:49] Speaker 2: not questioning his shit. I already know this is some bullshit.
[2:18:52] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[2:18:53] Speaker 4: It's... There's friends and friends and friends that were y'all
[2:19:01] Speaker 4: making deals.
[2:19:02] Speaker 2: So it's just another version of nepotism, man.
[2:19:05] Speaker 1: Yep.
[2:19:05] Speaker 2: But nobody wants to see it.
[2:19:06] Speaker 1: More of a business version. It's a business version of nepotism.
[2:19:10] Speaker 1: It's called the good old boys club. This is the
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: bad part.
[2:19:15] Speaker 4: Instead of just saying, God damn it, look, this worked
[2:19:17] Speaker 4: out for both of us.
[2:19:18] Speaker 8: You want to pretend a man, we're 290. He eat
[2:19:21] Speaker 8: all the time. Why are you throwing dirt on his name?
[2:19:23] Speaker 8: Because you thought something is better. Just say, hey, we
[2:19:28] Speaker 8: thought this was a better fit for us.
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: We already got Kyrie.
[2:19:31] Speaker 2: It's kind of like, whatever.
[2:19:34] Speaker 5: Just do it.
[2:19:34] Speaker 2: Don't try to pull no... But, Gil, to your point,
[2:19:37] Speaker 2: if you're Nico Harrison, you make that deal, which you
[2:19:39] Speaker 2: may not think is a bad trade, you see Mavs fans' reaction.
[2:19:42] Speaker 1: We have to tell them. We have to tell them
[2:19:45] Speaker 1: something good. We have to tell them something great. It's
[2:19:47] Speaker 1: the reason why you trade.
[2:19:48] Speaker 2: It's the reason, for sure. No, no, no. Do we
[2:19:50] Speaker 2: tell them the truth?
[2:19:51] Speaker 8: Now, what you're saying is you have to tell these
[2:19:55] Speaker 8: fans something.
[2:19:55] Speaker 5: No, you don't.
[2:19:56] Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything, but... Now, why should
[2:19:59] Speaker 2: the fans.
[2:20:01] Speaker 4: I actually trust your word. You told us he was 270.
[2:20:07] Speaker 8: This motherfucker got off that plane looking all at 230.
[2:20:10] Speaker 2: You lie. One man's trash, another man's treasure, right?
[2:20:16] Speaker 4: So that's just like a relationship, right? You break up
[2:20:18] Speaker 4: with a chick and you listen to the ex about her, right?
[2:20:23] Speaker 4: Why would I listen to you about her?
[2:20:26] Speaker 2: Or him, right? Why would I? Because I was there.
[2:20:28] Speaker 5: Huh?
[2:20:29] Speaker 2: Because I was there. But that's just your dealings with
[2:20:31] Speaker 2: that person. I know. Right?
[2:20:32] Speaker 4: My personality and my whatever might fit well with that person.
[2:20:36] Speaker 4: Y'all fucking didn't get along. Y'all wasn't compatible in this way. Well,
[2:20:39] Speaker 4: that ain't got shit to do with me. So don't
[2:20:42] Speaker 4: fucking call me trying to give me no dirt. Because
[2:20:45] Speaker 4: you didn't do your motherfucking job to keep this motherfucker happy.
[2:20:49] Speaker 1: But you can't look back at me because she was stealing.
[2:20:52] Speaker 1: Because she was stealing. She was stealing from you. Because
[2:20:56] Speaker 1: she didn't fuck with you. But she's a thief. No,
[2:20:59] Speaker 1: she didn't fuck with you. But she's a thief.
[2:21:02] Speaker 2: You don't want to hear that she stole from you.
[2:21:04] Speaker 5: Those videos speak volumes of beer. I've never seen that.
[2:21:08] Speaker 4: And Michael Fenton, coming from a former player, if it
[2:21:10] Speaker 4: was somebody that didn't play, Yes.
[2:21:16] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:21:17] Speaker 4: Not coming from a former player.
[2:21:19] Speaker 2: Man, I would ask Mike Finley, man, what the fuck
[2:21:20] Speaker 2: are you doing, dude? Get the fuck back. You see
[2:21:22] Speaker 2: how Luka look like?
[2:21:23] Speaker 4: Right? You're a former player, man. You don't do that, bro.
[2:21:26] Speaker 4: You didn't drink a beer after the game before. Man,
[2:21:28] Speaker 4: if you don't back the fuck up, dude. Like, it
[2:21:31] Speaker 4: feels like I said, if GM, somebody that never played
[2:21:35] Speaker 4: the game was there, like, no, I don't think you
[2:21:36] Speaker 4: need to be doing it.
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: What if we know he got a drinking problem already?
[2:21:39] Speaker 5: Ain't that the G?
[2:21:40] Speaker 2: After the game? They would have never had it in there. Exactly.
[2:21:43] Speaker 2: They would have never had it in there. So that's
[2:21:45] Speaker 2: the thing.
[2:21:45] Speaker 1: I'm thinking Mike Finley is like this. Like, we know
[2:21:47] Speaker 1: we're not doing this no more. We're not doing this.
[2:21:49] Speaker 4: But if he got a drinking problem, they're not going
[2:21:51] Speaker 4: to have it in the locker room no way because
[2:21:52] Speaker 4: he's a superstar.
[2:21:53] Speaker 2: But can't you? They may not have it in the
[2:21:54] Speaker 2: locker room. It don't matter. But Pop can come through
[2:21:56] Speaker 2: and get it. They might. They might not make it
[2:21:59] Speaker 2: readily available. They got a drinking problem. His dad ain't
[2:22:00] Speaker 2: going to give him a fucking beer. I understand. But
[2:22:03] Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, no. What were they celebrating? Your
[2:22:06] Speaker 2: dad might think, niggas. They were going to the finals. Oh,
[2:22:08] Speaker 2: my God.
[2:22:09] Speaker 4: So they're going to the finals. Was there not champagne
[2:22:12] Speaker 4: and beer?
[2:22:13] Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. You don't take that from him
[2:22:15] Speaker 5: at that moment.
[2:22:15] Speaker 2: How do we know why he took it?
[2:22:17] Speaker 4: Has he explained it?
[2:22:18] Speaker 2: We're assuming.
[2:22:19] Speaker 5: That's why I said, does that speak value?
[2:22:21] Speaker 2: No, it don't speak value. How does that speak value?
[2:22:23] Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody take something from somebody in a celebration.
[2:22:25] Speaker 1: What if he just wanted the motherfucking drink for himself?
[2:22:28] Speaker 4: What if the Phillies got alcoholic? What if the Phillies
[2:22:34] Speaker 4: got alcoholic? If he was like, let me get that
[2:22:36] Speaker 4: in drunk.
[2:22:37] Speaker 1: We know exactly why he did it. He did it
[2:22:40] Speaker 1: because it's Luka. It's our best player. Hey, listen, not you.
[2:22:44] Speaker 2: Not you. That's what I'm saying. How Luka looks after.
[2:22:48] Speaker 8: Someone has to ask Michael.
[2:22:51] Speaker 2: Finley why he did it.
[2:22:53] Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure we've watched Klay.
[2:22:57] Speaker 2: Over the years.
[2:22:59] Speaker 4: After games, drink Bud Light, drinking during a press conference.
[2:23:03] Speaker 2: Like, I mean, come on. We're trying to protect the accent.
[2:23:05] Speaker 2: Get over here, Clayton's not in shape. We're talking about
[2:23:07] Speaker 2: one beer. That's all I'm saying.
[2:23:08] Speaker 5: You're trying to use this as a re.
[2:23:10] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck why he averaged 33 for
[2:23:11] Speaker 2: the season. If he wants to have 10 beers... I
[2:23:25] Speaker 2: heard about that. I heard about that.
[2:23:28] Speaker 3: Are you going to let Embiid continue to come in
[2:23:30] Speaker 3: the locker room eating burgers? Are you going to continue
[2:23:34] Speaker 3: to let Embiid come in the locker room with McDonald's
[2:23:37] Speaker 3: and all this shit?
[2:23:38] Speaker 4: Are you going to correct it? Somebody buy the ketchup
[2:23:40] Speaker 4: straight real quick. No, I hear you, yes, but they
[2:23:42] Speaker 4: ain't corrected it yet, no, so that ain't going to work.
[2:23:44] Speaker 4: So if he was showing up there motherfucking drinking like
[2:23:46] Speaker 4: Roy Tarpley, Goddamn issue.
[2:23:49] Speaker 2: Did he play like Roy Tarpley? That's not a bad story.
[2:23:51] Speaker 2: Is he playing like Roy Tarpley?
[2:23:52] Speaker 5: No.
[2:23:53] Speaker 2: No, okay. But Roy Tarpley, you telling us.
[2:23:55] Speaker 5: We own you about your weight, and you might.
[2:23:57] Speaker 2: Be doing this all the time. And you drinking this beer.
[2:23:59] Speaker 5: I'm going to come up and say, hold on, Nick,
[2:24:01] Speaker 5: I've been talking to you about this.
[2:24:02] Speaker 2: The weight. You ain't going to do shit. That's your arm, bro.
[2:24:06] Speaker 2: What the fuck are you going to do? What are
[2:24:08] Speaker 2: we talking about? They're going to trade you. That's what
[2:24:10] Speaker 2: they're going to do.
[2:24:11] Speaker 1: You said Joe on the beach got in shape too, right?
[2:24:13] Speaker 1: I'm saying, but the reason is why.
[2:24:15] Speaker 2: It's the reasons why. Ken, where are they going?
[2:24:19] Speaker 4: So I don't give a fuck what TV you watch.
[2:24:24] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[2:24:25] Speaker 4: But you're telling me this motherfucker got me to the
[2:24:28] Speaker 4: NBA finals.
[2:24:30] Speaker 2: He averaged 33, what, in nine? Nine to nine? He's
[2:24:34] Speaker 2: killing everybody and I'm pulling a drink out of him?
[2:24:37] Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
[2:24:38] Speaker 4: If he wanted to bow to his head, drink it,
[2:24:41] Speaker 4: goddamn it.
[2:24:42] Speaker 5: Drink it, goddamn it. This motherfucker got us to We
[2:24:45] Speaker 5: don't know why we don't know.
[2:24:46] Speaker 2: Why like a kid like nigga no nigga no had
[2:24:49] Speaker 2: this No, no. You're too fat. No, no. See, you're
[2:25:15] Speaker 2: making that up. He didn't say that. Yes. No, he didn't.
[2:25:18] Speaker 5: Yes, he did.
[2:25:18] Speaker 10: Show me.
[2:25:19] Speaker 2: That's the only way you can. Show me.
[2:25:20] Speaker 5: If you see somebody taking a burger away from Zion,
[2:25:23] Speaker 5: what you going to think?
[2:25:24] Speaker 2: You ain't going to think. You can't have that because
[2:25:25] Speaker 2: you're too fat. You're too fat. God damn, so stop.
[2:25:27] Speaker 5: For sure.
[2:25:29] Speaker 2: For sure. Like a nigga take a. 45 away from you.
[2:25:31] Speaker 5: What are you going to say?
[2:25:32] Speaker 2: I can't handle that nigga.
[2:25:34] Speaker 5: He shoot motherfuckers all the time.
[2:25:37] Speaker 2: Don't give me no gun, Dan. Don't give me no gun, Dan.
[2:25:39] Speaker 2: Didn't they say he was an alcoholic? Give me no gun.
[2:25:42] Speaker 5: No, right?
[2:25:42] Speaker 2: They didn't say he's an alcoholic.
[2:25:44] Speaker 1: They didn't say he has a drinking problem.
[2:25:45] Speaker 2: So what you're saying is meaningless.
[2:25:47] Speaker 5: He's out of shape. He's out of shape. He's overweight.
[2:25:49] Speaker 1: So these things, he's drinking beers and accumulating his weight shit.
[2:25:52] Speaker 2: It ain't nothing but sugar. It ain't nothing, but beer
[2:25:55] Speaker 2: is the worst thing. No, y'all are just making no
[2:25:57] Speaker 2: narrative on this dude. Like, we don't know why.
[2:25:59] Speaker 4: Let this man, let Finley answer the question, so then
[2:26:03] Speaker 4: we can know what he did it for.
[2:26:04] Speaker 2: No.
[2:26:04] Speaker 1: Like, you're just assuming. No, Hennessy is worse than that beer, Nick.
[2:26:08] Speaker 5: Facts.
[2:26:09] Speaker 2: You crazy as hell. Look at Seth Faxon.
[2:26:13] Speaker 5: Look at this.
[2:26:15] Speaker 2: A gun is worse than everything, stupid motherfucker.
[2:26:18] Speaker 1: Goddamn, you gotta throw me under the bus.
[2:26:20] Speaker 5: Like, goddamn, niggas want me to throw you under the bus?
[2:26:25] Speaker 2: Goddamn, nigga. High five. He said something. No, you said facts.
[2:26:33] Speaker 5: Facts.
[2:26:33] Speaker 2: He looked at me.
[2:26:34] Speaker 4: If I have a gun in my hand, are you
[2:26:37] Speaker 4: going to take it from me?
[2:26:39] Speaker 1: Facts.
[2:26:42] Speaker 2: Are you going to take it from me? If I
[2:26:45] Speaker 2: have a.
[2:26:45] Speaker 4: Gun in my hand, are you going to take it
[2:26:47] Speaker 4: from me? You shut the fuck up. Let's go.
[2:26:49] Speaker 2: You ain't doing nothing.
[2:26:51] Speaker 4: Just like I ain't taking that flask off them hips.
[2:26:53] Speaker 5: Nigga, I was with you.
[2:26:55] Speaker 2: Where the flask at? Nigga, you did this. You shot me.
[2:26:58] Speaker 2: Holy snap rock. Chitty, chitty, bang, bang.
[2:27:02] Speaker 1: Chitty, chitty. Boy, you better stop moving.
[2:27:05] Speaker 2: You already know. We'll get you. Don't give me no gun.
[2:27:07] Speaker 5: Chitty, chitty.
[2:27:08] Speaker 2: Say something else.
[2:27:12] Speaker 5: Say what, mama? Boo! Boo!
[2:27:14] Speaker 4: Let's move on to mostly fans.
[2:27:18] Speaker 1: Where the weed at? Where the weed at?
[2:27:22] Speaker 2: He done got fucked up plenty of times. Craig, Craig,
[2:27:27] Speaker 2: your cousin. I ain't know why you ain't tell me.
[2:27:29] Speaker 2: What's this? This work? Yeah, it work. Ladies and gentlemen,
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[2:27:44] Speaker 2: yourself a favor and do so. My son was calling me.
[2:27:51] Speaker 2: He thought I was.
[2:27:52] Speaker 5: Picking him up.
[2:27:53] Speaker 2: I was telling my son. I get out at 1.45 today.
[2:27:56] Speaker 2: That's why. Okay, well, you live across the street from
[2:27:57] Speaker 2: the school, man.
[2:27:58] Speaker 4: Tell him, take that little-ass bus like he usually do.
[2:28:02] Speaker 1: He live across the street.
[2:28:04] Speaker 2: Walk across the street.
[2:28:06] Speaker 1: Man, these are comfortable jokes.
[2:28:09] Speaker 2: Nah, nah. You ain't going to pick him up. Nah, nah, nah. Nigga,
[2:28:11] Speaker 2: you said little bus. My son don't drive a little bus, nigga. No, no, no, no, no.
[2:28:15] Speaker 2: Take it back. Girl, take it back. Luca, Luca, Luca, Luca, Luca, boy.
[2:28:21] Speaker 2: We back. He take the big bus. And you gonna
[2:28:27] Speaker 2: say this the size? No, the big bus. The regular.
[2:28:30] Speaker 10: Hold on, hold on.
[2:28:31] Speaker 2: You just said just the size.
[2:28:32] Speaker 5: He take the big bus.
[2:28:34] Speaker 2: The regular bus. The regular bus. Regular, regular.
[2:28:37] Speaker 1: The big short bus.
[2:28:41] Speaker 2: Okay. You keep getting up and down.
[2:28:44] Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up.
[2:28:48] Speaker 2: Hey, no, no.
[2:28:49] Speaker 5: Hey, no, no.
[2:28:50] Speaker 2: Hey, low key, low key.
[2:28:51] Speaker 5: I can't breathe. Low key.
[2:28:53] Speaker 2: Y'all know on trade deadline.
[2:28:55] Speaker 8: This is how everybody be. What y'all see, because, you know,
[2:28:58] Speaker 8: it's KJ right now. So this is how it looks
[2:29:01] Speaker 8: in the locker room.
[2:29:02] Speaker 1: Everybody moving.
[2:29:03] Speaker 2: On the bus or in the... Everybody sitting in the
[2:29:05] Speaker 2: locker room.
[2:29:05] Speaker 5: You can get real sick.
[2:29:06] Speaker 2: What are they saying?
[2:29:08] Speaker 1: They ain't making nothing?
[2:29:09] Speaker 5: Nope.
[2:29:10] Speaker 4: You sure?
[2:29:10] Speaker 1: I'm stuck here?
[2:29:11] Speaker 2: Okay. Shit.
[2:29:13] Speaker 5: Shit.
[2:29:13] Speaker 2: They did what? Five in the morning. As a reminder,
[2:29:17] Speaker 2: we will be in the arena. Five in the morning.
[2:29:19] Speaker 2: Where we going? Where we going? As a reminder, we
[2:29:22] Speaker 2: will be in the arena on Thursday. Trade deadline special
[2:29:25] Speaker 2: covering all the moves. That's who wanted me. Leave it
[2:29:28] Speaker 2: at the trade deadline Thursday, 12 a.m. And when it comes.
[2:29:31] Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that. I know you were saying some shit.
[2:29:33] Speaker 4: I know you don't respect me. You don't respect me, but...
[2:29:36] Speaker 4: I respect you.
[2:29:36] Speaker 1: Don't do that.
[2:29:37] Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't say shit when you're
[2:29:40] Speaker 2: starting to show off. You want to, though. No, no, no.
[2:29:44] Speaker 5: Okay. Trade deadline.
[2:29:45] Speaker 2: I'm going to be like that on Thursday, see if
[2:29:47] Speaker 2: I'm getting moved.
[2:29:48] Speaker 4: Now, during the trade deadline, right, you know I'm... They
[2:29:51] Speaker 4: know who they're trading.
[2:29:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:29:53] Speaker 4: Why are you allowing him to play in a game
[2:29:55] Speaker 4: where Muff will get pulled.
[2:29:56] Speaker 5: Out Or motherfuckers.
[2:30:00] Speaker 2: Going to a city. He find out soon as he land.
[2:30:04] Speaker 5: Man.
[2:30:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got... They did a stack five.
[2:30:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:30:08] Speaker 2: He landed, bam, and found out. Oh, what?
[2:30:11] Speaker 1: That's back when they didn't have the good Wi-Fi for
[2:30:14] Speaker 1: the phone.
[2:30:14] Speaker 2: They told you? But I was on the flight. I
[2:30:17] Speaker 2: was going to the Clippers when the Wiz was trading
[2:30:20] Speaker 2: me to the Clippers. Where were y'all at? It was
[2:30:23] Speaker 2: in New Orleans. You swing on somebody? How'd you, what?
[2:30:26] Speaker 5: They just told us on the bus, they said, you
[2:30:28] Speaker 5: ain't gonna play, because you might be traded to.
[2:30:31] Speaker 2: Who else did they say? JaVale, too, because JaVale went
[2:30:34] Speaker 2: to Denver. You got traded to Denver?
[2:30:36] Speaker 1: It was a pre-team trade?
[2:30:37] Speaker 2: The Lakers or the Clippers. They asked you that? No, no,
[2:30:43] Speaker 2: my agent told me that's what they... They didn't tell me.
[2:30:46] Speaker 2: Let's get to Mosey fans, because we all got stuff
[2:30:48] Speaker 2: to do.
[2:30:48] Speaker 5: How did it go with you?
[2:30:50] Speaker 2: I'm going to be working the phones tonight. You knew
[2:30:51] Speaker 2: I was going.
[2:30:53] Speaker 2: Oh, you kept coming in every other day.
[2:30:55] Speaker 5: I'm gone.
[2:30:56] Speaker 2: I'm gone, baby.
[2:30:56] Speaker 5: I'm gone, baby.
[2:30:57] Speaker 2: That motherfucker said... He was coming in the house.
[2:31:00] Speaker 5: I'm gone, baby.
[2:31:01] Speaker 2: And Sean. It's all a baller court.
[2:31:03] Speaker 1: That's telling them, get this nigga out of here.
[2:31:06] Speaker 2: I'm over here like, yo, what's the chance of me
[2:31:08] Speaker 2: getting traded? He said, man, about 60%. I said, say less. Hey, Nick,
[2:31:12] Speaker 2: I'm out. Grab a pair of shoes. Fuck the clothes.
[2:31:15] Speaker 2: Fuck the house. Fuck the family. Fuck them all.
[2:31:18] Speaker 8: I took my pair of shoes that I can hoop in,
[2:31:21] Speaker 8: got my own ticket to the airport, and landed. I'm
[2:31:26] Speaker 8: in Orlando in the practice facility before the trade even happened.
[2:31:32] Speaker 8: At this point, you've got to trade me. I ain't
[2:31:34] Speaker 8: going back.
[2:31:34] Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
[2:31:35] Speaker 2: Shit, I don't give a fuck what they're talking about.
[2:31:37] Speaker 2: I'm not going back. Is that the house?
[2:31:40] Speaker 1: Oh, it's gone.
[2:31:42] Speaker 2: So, get back to mostly fans.
[2:31:44] Speaker 5: Oh, that's who we are?
[2:31:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, yes. Direct deposit here, so feel free. Do not
[2:31:49] Speaker 2: appreciate me. Trade deadline coming soon. Lakers?
[2:31:51] Speaker 5: Is that.
[2:31:55] Speaker 5: Okay.
[2:31:55] Speaker 2: I'm going to mute right now. I'm sorry. Hurry up
[2:31:59] Speaker 2: and get this shit over with. Okay, let's go. All right,
[2:32:02] Speaker 2: so first question from underdog user Wizinator.
[2:32:09] Speaker 1: Look, that should not be tickling your belly. A Wizards
[2:32:12] Speaker 1: fan or a fan.
[2:32:13] Speaker 2: Of passing drug tests, either one are good in my book.
[2:32:16] Speaker 1: Can you come up with a crazier trade than A.D.
[2:32:18] Speaker 2: Luca? Hell yeah.
[2:32:20] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Oh, in the past or just come up
[2:32:24] Speaker 1: with it? Come up with it. He did not specify.
[2:32:29] Speaker 2: I was thinking that if you could come up with
[2:32:30] Speaker 2: a crazier trade in this current NBA right now, that
[2:32:32] Speaker 2: has not happened. That's easy. Yeah, Giannis. Some really good
[2:32:41] Speaker 2: basketball players out here. Giannis or Jokic for somebody. Well,
[2:32:45] Speaker 2: let's talk about this one. For each other.
[2:32:49] Speaker 1: What did Giannis say yesterday that he would love to see?
[2:32:52] Speaker 2: It was forming around him. Let me just give context.
[2:32:54] Speaker 2: It was a little sarcastic in what he was saying.
[2:32:56] Speaker 8: I'm tired of that sarcastic shit with him because.
[2:32:58] Speaker 2: I need to keep down. But you do that shit
[2:33:00] Speaker 2: all the time, Giannis.
[2:33:01] Speaker 1: It was on his own situation it was sarcasm. He
[2:33:04] Speaker 1: was really talking about he needs to be put in
[2:33:07] Speaker 1: a big city. So if we think about from that point,
[2:33:10] Speaker 1: where would motherfuckers go based on cities?
[2:33:13] Speaker 4: Like if Giannis gets traded for like cats.
[2:33:17] Speaker 1: I was thinking that too, but....
[2:33:21] Speaker 2: Kat and Horst. Kat and Horst.
[2:33:22] Speaker 5: Kat and Horst.
[2:33:24] Speaker 2: You'd be like... Jokic for Bam. You'd be like, wait, what?
[2:33:26] Speaker 2: Jokic for Bam. Three-team trade involved. I was thinking Giannis
[2:33:31] Speaker 2: down there. Involved Steph, send Steph to Denver.
[2:33:33] Speaker 5: Huh?
[2:33:34] Speaker 4: Three-team deal, send Steph to Denver, send Jamal Murray somewhere.
[2:33:37] Speaker 4: It's Jimmy Butler go to.
[2:33:40] Speaker 1: A mellow ball. Throw a mellow Steph deal in there.
[2:33:44] Speaker 5: You have?
[2:33:46] Speaker 2: With the Denver shit. You have talked about Steph and LaMelo?
[2:33:49] Speaker 4: I like Steph and Nikola together.
[2:33:53] Speaker 2: I really like that team. In Denver or in the Warriors? Wherever. Warriors. Warriors.
[2:33:58] Speaker 2: Think about your cat. I'm talking about Warriors for Giannis.
[2:34:02] Speaker 2: I mean, not for Jokic. The style of play? No,
[2:34:06] Speaker 2: just the city. The big city? Big market now?
[2:34:09] Speaker 5: What about like... Who?
[2:34:13] Speaker 2: Was it the pal and the center for Joker or something?
[2:34:17] Speaker 2: To play with who? To play with who? To play
[2:34:19] Speaker 2: with who? To play with who?
[2:34:21] Speaker 5: To play with who? To play with who?
[2:34:22] Speaker 2: To play with who? To play with who? To play
[2:34:24] Speaker 2: with who? I know that deal. That deal was going on.
[2:34:52] Speaker 4: David Stern was like this.
[2:34:55] Speaker 1: Just like this last deal that just happened.
[2:34:58] Speaker 2: Mark Cuban was like, wait, hold.
[2:34:59] Speaker 4: The fuck on. We just won the championship. We trying
[2:35:01] Speaker 4: to go back to back.
[2:35:02] Speaker 5: Right?
[2:35:03] Speaker 2: We trying to go back to back. I don't know
[2:35:04] Speaker 2: what's going on over here, but I don't like it.
[2:35:06] Speaker 5: Yo, David.
[2:35:06] Speaker 2: Yo, David. Rittnigga, here's a... It's our turn, Dave. It's
[2:35:10] Speaker 2: our turn, Dave, now.
[2:35:11] Speaker 4: You like the Clippers?
[2:35:14] Speaker 1: All right.
[2:35:15] Speaker 2: Rittnigga, go to the Clippers. It's still L.A.? Mark Cuban
[2:35:19] Speaker 2: ain't seen this shit. Dwight, go to the Lakers.
[2:35:21] Speaker 4: Nash, go to the Lakers. Mark Cuban don't give a
[2:35:24] Speaker 4: fuck about that, but that's who reneged it, the guy
[2:35:26] Speaker 4: who won the.
[2:35:28] Speaker 4: It was, like, I don't... I personally don't want him
[2:35:31] Speaker 4: to have that when I'm.
[2:35:32] Speaker 2: Trying to go back-to-back. You got Spurs, like, hey, Spurs, hey, Pop,
[2:35:37] Speaker 2: y'all not arguing about this shit right here? But think
[2:35:39] Speaker 2: about the teams who are.
[2:35:40] Speaker 1: Danny Ainge just came out and said he had no
[2:35:42] Speaker 1: idea I was helping him get there.
[2:35:43] Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
[2:35:44] Speaker 4: Think about the two teams that was really arguing.
[2:35:46] Speaker 5: It was.
[2:35:48] Speaker 2: It's San Antonio and Dallas at the time. But think
[2:35:50] Speaker 2: about Danny Ainge. You got some pigs fucking.
[2:35:55] Speaker 1: Is Boston the other team they reached out to? Did
[2:35:56] Speaker 1: Danny Ainge give it up?
[2:35:57] Speaker 2: Hell no. Did Danny Ainge give it up? There's only
[2:35:59] Speaker 2: one other player. It's Giannis.
[2:36:02] Speaker 1: He said, how would he help the deal? How would
[2:36:05] Speaker 1: Danny Ainge.
[2:36:06] Speaker 2: Help the deal if it didn't include Boston? We know Nico.
[2:36:09] Speaker 2: Who is the other team? It's got to be Boston, bro.
[2:36:13] Speaker 2: Because if he's going to be quiet, he's going with
[2:36:16] Speaker 2: someone he trust.
[2:36:16] Speaker 1: But what would be the point of him saying, I
[2:36:18] Speaker 1: helped them get Luka?
[2:36:22] Speaker 2: But Ainge didn't know until, I think, 30 minutes before
[2:36:24] Speaker 2: the trade. He's a trade fiend. So he saw some, oh,
[2:36:28] Speaker 2: you got some trades? Y'all got some picks? How did
[2:36:30] Speaker 2: I help y'all? I didn't know I was helping y'all
[2:36:33] Speaker 2: get Luka. But you got picks, and I'm a fiend.
[2:36:35] Speaker 5: No, no, no.
[2:36:36] Speaker 2: You know what city it was.
[2:36:38] Speaker 5: New York?
[2:36:38] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I already got all the info.
[2:36:43] Speaker 1: I've been trying to interweave my own, you know.
[2:36:47] Speaker 2: That's why I respect your shot. So last question for
[2:36:49] Speaker 2: the couch before we move on. You got to think
[2:36:53] Speaker 2: about his relationship.
[2:36:53] Speaker 4: Who is his personal relationship with?
[2:36:57] Speaker 2: So last question from underdog user Easy Money Griper. Will
[2:37:01] Speaker 2: the Lakers have a better record from now until the
[2:37:04] Speaker 2: end of the season than the Mavs? Will the Lakers
[2:37:06] Speaker 2: have a better record from this point to the end
[2:37:08] Speaker 2: of the season than the Mavs? I don't think so.
[2:37:12] Speaker 2: They don't got no defense?
[2:37:13] Speaker 5: I don't think so.
[2:37:14] Speaker 4: It depends on if they make another move before tomorrow.
[2:37:17] Speaker 2: It is not Thursday yet. We still have it. Before Thursday.
[2:37:20] Speaker 2: Luke Aaron shaped the average 50? Yeah, I think so. Yeah,
[2:37:24] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[2:37:25] Speaker 4: I don't know because we don't know how long he's
[2:37:26] Speaker 4: going to be before he comes back. They're saying game
[2:37:28] Speaker 4: to game.
[2:37:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:37:30] Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't played in a month and a half.
[2:37:32] Speaker 2: I really don't know. There's been talks that he's trying
[2:37:34] Speaker 2: to get back right, get on the court. They're saying
[2:37:36] Speaker 2: five on five. He just did it to New York
[2:37:38] Speaker 2: without AD. I don't know. True. Fair point. My only
[2:37:42] Speaker 2: concern with Dallas, like I do like Dallas. The only
[2:37:46] Speaker 2: problem is.
[2:37:51] Speaker 2: Kyrie, which Kyrie is it?
[2:37:55] Speaker 4: The Kyrie who plays free or the Kyrie who.
[2:38:00] Speaker 2: Thinks he needs to get... Be a facilitator? Yeah. That's
[2:38:05] Speaker 2: the only... We've seen Kyrie in.
[2:38:09] Speaker 1: That was young and mature Kyrie.
[2:38:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I said that's the only thing I'm
[2:38:14] Speaker 2: concerned about.
[2:38:14] Speaker 1: His grace now, he's reached a point where now he
[2:38:17] Speaker 1: know when to turn it on, turn it off. He's
[2:38:19] Speaker 1: turning it off and on with Luka. Because he had
[2:38:22] Speaker 1: to defer. Yeah. Now it's like, all right, this is
[2:38:24] Speaker 1: the first time I think Kyrie's in a position he's
[2:38:26] Speaker 1: always wanted to be in. My team, I could be
[2:38:30] Speaker 1: traditional point guard and do my thing with a big,
[2:38:33] Speaker 1: and have a team that I could say, I'm going
[2:38:35] Speaker 1: to lead this team to a championship.
[2:38:36] Speaker 2: And they just traded for Caleb Martin, too, as well.
[2:38:38] Speaker 2: Came down the wire today.
[2:38:39] Speaker 5: Oh, did they?
[2:38:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, Quentin Grimes. They put him pieces around. Quentin Grimes. Yeah. Oh,
[2:38:44] Speaker 2: Grimes left? They traded Grimes. The second round.
[2:38:47] Speaker 1: So it's Christie, PJ Washington, Green.
[2:38:53] Speaker 5: Caleb?
[2:38:54] Speaker 1: Clay, Caleb.
[2:38:56] Speaker 5: That's a good little lineup.
[2:38:58] Speaker 2: Hardy. Hardy.
[2:38:59] Speaker 5: That's a good lineup.
[2:39:00] Speaker 2: It's a backup point, though.
[2:39:01] Speaker 5: Hardy.
[2:39:02] Speaker 1: Hardy's the point?
[2:39:02] Speaker 5: Mm.
[2:39:03] Speaker 2: So are they going to.
[2:39:04] Speaker 5: Kyrie, Clay.
[2:39:05] Speaker 2: Lively, Gafford. Are they going to go bigger, or... I
[2:39:09] Speaker 2: think so. Are you going to go Lively and Anthony Davis?
[2:39:13] Speaker 1: They're saying Gafford at the five. Oh, Gafford and... Yeah,
[2:39:16] Speaker 1: AD at the four.
[2:39:17] Speaker 8: Oh, that's my argument earlier this year when I was
[2:39:20] Speaker 8: saying they were too small.
[2:39:21] Speaker 1: Not anymore.
[2:39:22] Speaker 2: Last year you were saying they played too small for P.J.
[2:39:25] Speaker 1: To be the guy.
[2:39:25] Speaker 5: Shit.
[2:39:26] Speaker 2: They got better defensively. They got better at the rim,
[2:39:29] Speaker 2: protecting the rim. Yeah, so Lively should be out, I think.
[2:39:31] Speaker 2: And they have a post-option now. They have a post-scoring option.
[2:39:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, which they did, because neither one of them dudes
[2:39:35] Speaker 4: can score.
[2:39:36] Speaker 1: Couldn't throw it to him down there.
[2:39:37] Speaker 2: He's still a.
[2:39:37] Speaker 4: Live threat, and he can score on the block. Anthony
[2:39:39] Speaker 4: Davis is still a live threat, and he can score
[2:39:40] Speaker 4: on the block.
[2:39:41] Speaker 1: He can pass from the pinch post. He can pass
[2:39:43] Speaker 1: from the... Lively's out a couple months, excuse me. But, damn,
[2:39:47] Speaker 1: him and Gafford at the 4-5... P.J. Washington is still
[2:39:50] Speaker 1: a stretcher. And you can play him at the five, P.J.
[2:39:52] Speaker 2: At the four. Lively can potentially come back with him
[2:39:54] Speaker 2: around playoffs.
[2:39:56] Speaker 4: So when you need a different lineup, you can play A.D.
[2:39:58] Speaker 4: at the five still. You can play P.J. at the four.
[2:40:02] Speaker 2: And you got Klay out there running around. You can
[2:40:04] Speaker 2: play really big with P.J. at the three sometimes. Are
[2:40:08] Speaker 2: they going to start with that?
[2:40:09] Speaker 1: So they said projected lineup.
[2:40:11] Speaker 2: What was the projected lineup? Gafford, Davis, Washington. a Klay
[2:40:15] Speaker 2: Thompson and then Kyrie.
[2:40:17] Speaker 1: That's why I said Dallas is number one. I said Dallas,
[2:40:19] Speaker 1: they got a pitch.
[2:40:20] Speaker 2: That's a tough lineup. That's tough. I like it.
[2:40:23] Speaker 4: Where Christy coming off the bench? Spacing, slashing. Christy coming
[2:40:25] Speaker 4: off the bench. Then they're going to be buried.
[2:40:27] Speaker 2: On the bench. We'll see.
[2:40:29] Speaker 5: Christy. Limerick.
[2:40:32] Speaker 2: Max Christy.
[2:40:33] Speaker 1: No, no, no. Max Christy is going to be coming
[2:40:35] Speaker 1: off for Washington.
[2:40:36] Speaker 2: Hardy. Hardy's playing the one. They got Caleb Martin. They
[2:40:40] Speaker 2: got Caleb Martin.
[2:40:41] Speaker 1: Two.
[2:40:41] Speaker 2: Caleb at the two. I think Caleb Martin plays over Christie.
[2:40:44] Speaker 2: Christie's guys back. And then you got Hardy over there.
[2:40:47] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:40:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. They believe in him. He might get buried. He
[2:40:51] Speaker 2: might get buried. No, they believe in him. It remains
[2:40:53] Speaker 2: to be seen. Max, he's going to get buried. He's
[2:40:55] Speaker 2: going to get buried. What we do know is that
[2:40:58] Speaker 2: we have Luka Doncic on the way. I like that.
[2:41:00] Speaker 2: I like that.
[2:41:00] Speaker 5: I like that.
[2:41:01] Speaker 2: That's going to be cool. So we got All-Star Weekend
[2:41:03] Speaker 2: next weekend. Gills Arena will be in the Bay. Be
[2:41:07] Speaker 2: on the lookout for more information. We'll be taping shows
[2:41:09] Speaker 2: out there. We got a bunch of special guests coming through.
[2:41:11] Speaker 2: Got the venue locked up.
[2:41:12] Speaker 1: Next weekend?
[2:41:14] Speaker 2: We're doing shows Thursday and Friday in San Francisco, the
[2:41:18] Speaker 2: heart of the city, next Thursday and next Friday. If
[2:41:21] Speaker 2: you or someone you know is in the Bay Area
[2:41:23] Speaker 2: wants to pull up, we'll have more details soon. But
[2:41:25] Speaker 2: appreciate all you gentlemen. A very spirited episode of the
[2:41:29] Speaker 2: show today. Nigga, I thought you was going to suck me.
[2:41:31] Speaker 2: You know, definitely my ear hurt. Shut up.
[2:41:33] Speaker 1: Let him talk.
[2:41:34] Speaker 5: I said, nigga, you grab my knee so hard.
[2:41:38] Speaker 4: I want to tase this man so bad.
[2:41:40] Speaker 2: I want to hit this nigga with the taser.
[2:41:41] Speaker 5: The way he went today was, look, you even.
[2:41:43] Speaker 2: Scared the fucking King. I've never seen King like.
[2:41:46] Speaker 5: Man, I got to get the fuck out of here.
[2:41:49] Speaker 2: Krista, can you get my taser? Krista, retrieve the taver.
[2:41:51] Speaker 5: When you jump, I will just as good.
[2:41:54] Speaker 1: Another episode of King Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:41:58] Speaker 2: We'll see y'all tomorrow.

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