# Joel Embiid's Shove STUNS Bun B & The Gil's Arena Crew

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 4 Nov 2024, 2 h 39 min.

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Joel Embiid's Shove STUNS Bun B & The Gil's Arena Crew as the legendary Texas rapper enters Gil's Arena where he and The Gil's Arena Crew react to the locker room altercation involving Joel Embiid & reporter Marcus Hayes and debate what kind of punishment the NBA will hand down to the Philadelphia 76ers superstar as he tries to make his return to the court. They also react to viral beef that went down in Canada this weekend between Demar Derozan and Drake as the rapper went at Derozan for his involvement in Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" music video and sparked another hostile battle for himself during Vince Carter's Jersey retirement ceremony. Next, the Gil's Arena Crew continues their assault on Doc Rivers and Mr. B's Milwaukee Bucks as the break down the Bucks' 1-5 start to the 2025 NBA Season and debate what the future looks like for Giannis Antetokounmpo & Damian Lillard after Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers buried them in the clutch. Then, Bun B gets real on the rap game by breaking down his involvement with the legendary UGK group and gives his thoughts on the NFL picking Kendrick Lamar over Lil Wayne to headline the Super Bowl before telling untold stories from the James Harden era with the Houston Rockets. Finally, Gil & The Crew react to Rudy Gobert ducking Russell Westbrook and the concerning news surrounding Gregg Popovich as he's forced to take a leave of absence from the San Antonio Spurs. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Bun B, Kenyon Martin, Nick Young, & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:09 Anniversary Of Gil's NBA Debut 0:07:02 Drake vs Demar Derozan 0:20:03 Joel Embiid's Locker Room Altercation 0:36:22 Hip Hop Legend Bun B Enters The Arena 1:05:17 Bun B Remembers Quincy Jones 1:20:06 Bun B On His Business Trill Burgers 1:23:22 Bun B's Favorite Memories From The UGK Era 1:34:57 Bun B's Top 5 Texas Rappers 1:39:03 Bun B's Favorite Verses 2:00:14 Bun B's Top 5 Rap Groups 2:02:21 Bun B On The Up & Coming Rockets 2:15:59 The Bucks Go From Bad To Worse 2:19:48 MostlyFans 2:36:06 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa!
[0:07] Speaker 3: Yo, we beefing right now.
[0:09] Speaker 1: We beefing.
[0:09] Speaker 3: Louisville, UCLA.
[0:12] Speaker 1: You don't watch girls' basketball anyway. I watch women's basketball, Gil.
[0:16] Speaker 3: Support women. It's the WNBA. They over 18. It's women's.
[0:20] Speaker 3: They over 18. It's women's basketball for both.
[0:23] Speaker 4: For both is considerable. Damn it, I don't watch it either.
[0:26] Speaker 1: You about to watch UCLA get this done.
[0:28] Speaker 3: But I am today. You about to. What, the debut
[0:31] Speaker 3: of Agent She-Ra?
[0:32] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[0:33] Speaker 2: Uh-uh.
[0:34] Speaker 3: Ooh. Okay. That's hard. We apologize in advance for what
[0:37] Speaker 3: we're about to do, though.
[0:38] Speaker 2: That's hard.
[0:39] Speaker 3: That's legendary, Gil. It is. Gil, big fan of women's basketball, despite.
[0:42] Speaker 4: I give you a pass because your daughter go there, but, yeah,
[0:46] Speaker 4: we used to put a foot to Louisville's ass.
[0:49] Speaker 2: The boys. Yeah.
[0:50] Speaker 1: We ain't worried about the men. But we're going to
[0:56] Speaker 1: get this dub. Y'all supposed to be good this year?
[0:58] Speaker 1: Number five in the country? No.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Wait, what? Come here. Number five? Women are women. No way.
[1:05] Speaker 3: Who y'all got? Who don't we got? We're coming for Juju, whoever.
[1:14] Speaker 3: We're coming for whoever.
[1:16] Speaker 1: You know anybody?
[1:18] Speaker 4: The only woman we know in Los Angeles is Juju.
[1:21] Speaker 2: That's it.
[1:22] Speaker 3: Period.
[1:22] Speaker 4: Period.
[1:28] Speaker 3: Unfortunate.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Y'all are number 17.
[1:30] Speaker 3: That's a good ranking, too. That's close to five. Oh, shit.
[1:33] Speaker 2: Y'all supposed to put ass to.
[1:36] Speaker 4: Put the ass to they team.
[1:37] Speaker 3: That's close to five.
[1:37] Speaker 2: No, nobody's.
[1:38] Speaker 4: Come on. We good.
[1:39] Speaker 2: We good.
[1:39] Speaker 3: We good out here.
[1:40] Speaker 2: Let's go to Louisville.
[1:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[1:42] Speaker 1: But this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog. As always,
[1:44] Speaker 1: we got the legend and now current Louisville fan, Gilbert Arenas,
[1:48] Speaker 1: here on the.
[1:49] Speaker 3: Here on the couch. Did you just do the fight on?
[1:54] Speaker 1: Huh?
[1:54] Speaker 3: What'd you just.
[1:54] Speaker 2: He did. I don't know. Okay.
[1:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:59] Speaker 3: We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, in the building.
[2:03] Speaker 1: Representing a tough crowd in the Gills Arena collab. Over
[2:07] Speaker 1: on this side of the couch, we got Kenyon Martin.
[2:09] Speaker 2: What's up? Talking to Polo, okay.
[2:11] Speaker 1: It's a special day. We got a special guest coming through.
[2:14] Speaker 3: I see you.
[2:15] Speaker 2: What's up, Jack?
[2:16] Speaker 3: Get dressed up. Normally, Nick is on this side of
[2:19] Speaker 3: the couch. Oh, fuck that hill.
[2:20] Speaker 1: But he not messing with Gil right now. We got
[2:22] Speaker 1: Swaggy P, NBA champion, Nick Young.
[2:25] Speaker 3: Brother P. Brother P now. Brother P. Brother P.
[2:29] Speaker 2: He got the glasses.
[2:35] Speaker 4: The funny part is they look prescription.
[2:37] Speaker 2: They are.
[2:38] Speaker 3: I'm old now, baby. I can't tell. I can't see shit.
[2:43] Speaker 4: No, you can tell.
[2:45] Speaker 3: These eyes have been gone a long time ago.
[2:47] Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
[2:48] Speaker 3: Brother Versace? You know what, brother?
[2:52] Speaker 2: I don't do labels, brother.
[2:53] Speaker 3: I'm not about that. I just got it.
[2:56] Speaker 2: You don't do labels ever since Sean Stevenson put his
[2:59] Speaker 2: nuts on them shits, huh?
[3:01] Speaker 3: The Balenciaga. I'm not indulging in your bulls today. Okay,
[3:11] Speaker 3: we got a new to prove. Nick Young here.
[3:15] Speaker 1: We also got hip-hop legend Bun B pulling up to
[3:17] Speaker 1: the arena shortly. And for all the fans out there,
[3:20] Speaker 1: we still have two viewing options for you, our traditional
[3:22] Speaker 1: version and a mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you
[3:24] Speaker 1: want to watch. Just make sure you support your favorite show.
[3:27] Speaker 1: Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Joel Embiid was
[3:30] Speaker 1: progressing towards making his season debut, but got into a
[3:33] Speaker 1: locker room altercation with a Sixers beat reporter. How much
[3:36] Speaker 1: longer do we expect the process to be sidelined? Might
[3:40] Speaker 1: be a minute once Adam Silver and them get a
[3:41] Speaker 1: hold of him.
[3:42] Speaker 5: Let's go process it.
[3:43] Speaker 1: The Bucs are off to a 1-5 start, including five
[3:46] Speaker 1: straight losses.
[3:47] Speaker 3: Trash!
[3:49] Speaker 1: Could Giannis be taking his talent to South Beach if
[3:52] Speaker 1: Doc Rivers can't right the ship?
[3:54] Speaker 3: There are rumblings.
[3:55] Speaker 1: And Vince Carter became the first player to have his
[3:57] Speaker 1: jersey retired by the Raptors. But will DeMar DeRozan see
[4:01] Speaker 1: his hanging in the Raptors someday as well? At least
[4:03] Speaker 1: one Toronto legend doesn't think so. I'm sure we all
[4:06] Speaker 1: have seen the videos and everything going on. It was
[4:08] Speaker 1: a little tense out there in Lebronto.
[4:10] Speaker 3: This weekend.
[4:11] Speaker 1: Before we get into all that, as always, the show
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[4:49] Speaker 1: get your podcasts. So, Gil, it's a special day for
[4:51] Speaker 1: you as well. Obviously, your daughter debuting for Louisville, her
[4:54] Speaker 1: college basketball career underway, but.
[4:57] Speaker 3: Special anniversary for you too.
[4:58] Speaker 1: On this date in 2001... A legend made his NBA debut. Gil,
[5:02] Speaker 1: you got in the game for the first time.
[5:04] Speaker 2: See him?
[5:06] Speaker 3: First time.
[5:09] Speaker 1: 23 years ago today. Warriors against Blazer. A dominant performance.
[5:13] Speaker 1: You were 0 for 3 from the field. You have
[5:15] Speaker 1: one personal foul and three minutes of action.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Little Bronny.
[5:18] Speaker 1: Shot a minute.
[5:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:19] Speaker 3: You got to make some good minutes. Little Bronny. Little Bronny.
[5:24] Speaker 3: Little Bronny. Little Bronny.
[5:29] Speaker 2: Ah, that was good.
[5:29] Speaker 3: That was good.
[5:31] Speaker 1: Gil, what do you remember about subbing into an NBA
[5:33] Speaker 1: game for the first time?
[5:36] Speaker 2: Was it Portland in Golden State?
[5:40] Speaker 3: It was in Golden State. Oh, yeah.
[5:41] Speaker 6: That was, uh, I got a rude awakening because I
[5:44] Speaker 6: was talking, uh, You know, you're talking trash on the sidelines,
[5:47] Speaker 6: so I was talking big stuff.
[5:49] Speaker 4: Remember Boom Shay, Boom Shay?
[5:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:52] Speaker 3: So.
[5:52] Speaker 2: Ruben.
[5:53] Speaker 3: Huh?
[5:54] Speaker 4: Boom Shay, Boom Shay.
[5:54] Speaker 2: Boom Shay, Boom Shay.
[5:56] Speaker 6: So I was talking on the bench like, yo, if
[5:58] Speaker 6: I ever get in, I'm dunking on him because he
[6:01] Speaker 6: look like he a late jumper.
[6:02] Speaker 3: Right?
[6:03] Speaker 2: So if I ever get in, I'm just sitting there.
[6:05] Speaker 2: And then end up getting in.
[6:07] Speaker 3: You talking out loud?
[6:08] Speaker 2: On the side, on the bench.
[6:09] Speaker 3: To him?
[6:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, not to him. Just, you know, you know,
[6:12] Speaker 2: I dunk on him.
[6:13] Speaker 4: Oh, he look weak.
[6:14] Speaker 2: Right, why he in the game? And I got in
[6:18] Speaker 2: at the end of the game, and he was in.
[6:20] Speaker 2: So you know how you look at?
[6:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:22] Speaker 2: Fast break came down and took off.
[6:29] Speaker 3: You missed it?
[6:30] Speaker 2: What happened?
[6:31] Speaker 4: Man, he smacked that shit, man, back on the goddamn wood.
[6:35] Speaker 2: Is all I felt.
[6:37] Speaker 3: One of those three feet?
[6:38] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. One leg took off.
[6:41] Speaker 4: He felt like I'm flying.
[6:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, back hit the damn ground. Oh, yeah, that was, yeah.
[6:47] Speaker 4: What's the reason you.
[6:51] Speaker 2: Miss your next two?
[6:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[6:55] Speaker 3: A little sore.
[6:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, yeah. The way it happened, too, I was like, oh,
[6:58] Speaker 2: this is fake.
[7:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[7:03] Speaker 3: Brother, there was other plans for you that day, brother. Huh?
[7:06] Speaker 3: There was other plans for you that day.
[7:08] Speaker 4: Yep. You can beat that man. You can't beat that flow.
[7:12] Speaker 4: Let's just say that.
[7:14] Speaker 2: Damn.
[7:15] Speaker 3: Brandon, what do you remember from your first NBA game?
[7:20] Speaker 5: That I made my first shot. That was a relief.
[7:23] Speaker 3: Oh, you made your first shot?
[7:23] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[7:25] Speaker 5: That was a relief. Then it ended up being 17-9-9, so.
[7:28] Speaker 1: It was a good night.
[7:30] Speaker 2: I was nervous, though.
[7:31] Speaker 3: Average night at the office. Yeah.
[7:33] Speaker 2: In the first one? Yeah.
[7:36] Speaker 7: Off the, you know, swing, you know, UCLA cut, go
[7:39] Speaker 7: to the corner, here come Michael Redd, pick and roll Bogut.
[7:41] Speaker 5: I was in the corner open. I was just like,
[7:42] Speaker 5: please go in.
[7:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
[7:45] Speaker 2: I was like, yeah.
[7:46] Speaker 4: That must have been air balls.
[7:48] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[7:50] Speaker 8: That ball get heavy like a brick.
[7:51] Speaker 1: Really?
[7:51] Speaker 2: It get heavy. For real.
[7:53] Speaker 1: Let's shift over to Brother P. What do you remember
[7:58] Speaker 1: from your first NBA game?
[8:01] Speaker 9: Like how intense the game was. Like I said, we
[8:05] Speaker 9: played Boston. That was like the first time they had
[8:08] Speaker 9: like the big three together. It was their first game
[8:10] Speaker 9: and stuff. So I was just like, damn, this is KG,
[8:14] Speaker 9: Ray Allen, Paul Pierce.
[8:16] Speaker 3: But I did make my first shot, but, you know.
[8:20] Speaker 4: You made your shot?
[8:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:24] Speaker 9: Make it the first shot, get confidence. Too bad he
[8:28] Speaker 9: was already down by like 20, though.
[8:29] Speaker 1: This is about your individual performance.
[8:37] Speaker 4: And Kane, how about yourself?
[8:38] Speaker 3: I know, 16. 16 shot attempts. I mean, did he
[8:42] Speaker 3: make his first one, though?
[8:43] Speaker 2: I have no idea.
[8:44] Speaker 3: You don't?
[8:45] Speaker 4: We know, Kane. I'm being blamed. Let's go to the
[8:49] Speaker 4: game ball.
[8:50] Speaker 3: Let's go.
[8:51] Speaker 9: How's that pressure of being like the number one draft pick?
[8:56] Speaker 2: Oh, it was, it was there.
[9:00] Speaker 4: I just, I knew I had to go out and play.
[9:02] Speaker 4: And the team wasn't that good, so they got the
[9:04] Speaker 4: number one pick for a reason, right?
[9:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:06] Speaker 4: So, what I come into, it ain't that, we just
[9:12] Speaker 4: got to win more games than we did the year before.
[9:14] Speaker 5: Right.
[9:16] Speaker 4: So, hey, that's all that was, right? Just win more games,
[9:22] Speaker 4: and then, yeah, just go out and should be available.
[9:26] Speaker 5: I think it's pressure just in general being a lottery pick.
[9:27] Speaker 3: I was about to say, number 10 is pressure too.
[9:29] Speaker 7: Just being a lottery pick in general. Like, you pick
[9:32] Speaker 7: you in that green room, and everybody else outside waiting.
[9:34] Speaker 4: What's that, man?
[9:35] Speaker 5: I think it's just pressure for everybody.
[9:37] Speaker 3: Or shopping in Soho.
[9:38] Speaker 2: In Kenyan fashion, 14 seconds in the game, you got
[9:40] Speaker 2: a foul.
[9:40] Speaker 1: Okay.
[9:40] Speaker 2: He done clotheslined a motherfucker for real early.
[9:42] Speaker 3: Uh....
[9:59] Speaker 4: And it took that long?
[10:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, you missed it.
[10:04] Speaker 4: It was a 14-footer.
[10:05] Speaker 5: What games do you remember?
[10:08] Speaker 4: Big ones.
[10:09] Speaker 2: Finals.
[10:12] Speaker 4: Playoffs. Western Conference Finals. Playoff Series.
[10:16] Speaker 3: Hmm.
[10:17] Speaker 2: Certain games.
[10:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, first two points, free throws.
[10:19] Speaker 3: All the times y'all got your ass whipped. That's what's up, brother.
[10:22] Speaker 9: You're supposed to think about the good stuff, not the bad.
[10:27] Speaker 3: Keep the negativity out your head, brother.
[10:30] Speaker 2: You'll be okay. Brother P in the arena. So your
[10:40] Speaker 2: first bucket was an actual dunk.
[10:42] Speaker 1: Okay.
[10:42] Speaker 3: Okay. Damn.
[10:44] Speaker 4: Like makes two at the rim means a dunk, right?
[10:46] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:46] Speaker 4: Or a layup dunk, one or two.
[10:49] Speaker 6: Yeah, so your first two points was free throws, but
[10:51] Speaker 6: your first basket was makes two points, shot at the rim,
[10:54] Speaker 6: assisted by Mulberry. First points was free throws. And plus
[10:58] Speaker 6: two again, assisted by Mulberry right at the rim.
[11:01] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[11:02] Speaker 3: Get your buckets.
[11:03] Speaker 4: And then at the rim again.
[11:04] Speaker 3: Mulberry.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Rookie year, yeah. Steph was my point in my rookie year.
[11:07] Speaker 3: Fake head.
[11:07] Speaker 4: No, it was in my second year.
[11:08] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's keep this thing.
[11:10] Speaker 2: Made it to the finals in my second year, too.
[11:11] Speaker 3: I know. That's what I'm saying. Let's keep this thing moving.
[11:15] Speaker 3: We got some. So that means J.K. that much better
[11:18] Speaker 3: than Stephon Marbury?
[11:19] Speaker 2: We added pieces and took pieces away. Oh, okay.
[11:23] Speaker 4: We was old as shit my rookie year. We had
[11:27] Speaker 4: some dudes that had been around the league for a while.
[11:31] Speaker 4: Like Jim McElvain.
[11:32] Speaker 3: Was on the team. I bet. Bag finesser.
[11:35] Speaker 4: We had Jim McElvain, Kevin Mills, Sherman Douglas.
[11:38] Speaker 3: You know what J.K. was going through?
[11:40] Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.
[11:43] Speaker 6: It's not like they're better. They're better for that. He
[11:47] Speaker 6: was better for that.
[11:49] Speaker 4: We drafted R.J. to my second year. Kerry Kittle's healthy.
[11:54] Speaker 1: Now you're talking about what J.K.
[11:56] Speaker 2: Did. J.K.
[11:57] Speaker 4: What does he do?
[11:58] Speaker 2: Pass the fuck out of the ball, right?
[12:00] Speaker 6: So now you're talking about a guy who can pass
[12:02] Speaker 6: the ball, your shooting guard runs the floor.
[12:04] Speaker 2: Then you got Dunker, and then you got R.J.
[12:08] Speaker 3: Dunker.
[12:08] Speaker 4: So you got three dudes who's running.
[12:10] Speaker 2: So four of your five is rookies. No, we have
[12:14] Speaker 2: one rookie.
[12:15] Speaker 3: No, a second-year player is down there, rookie.
[12:17] Speaker 4: But I'm not.
[12:18] Speaker 3: And R.J.
[12:19] Speaker 4: But I was not your typical. I wasn't young. But
[12:23] Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I was 23 my second year. Yeah,
[12:25] Speaker 4: I was, I'm saying so, but I was ready to play.
[12:27] Speaker 4: I was physically ready to play. But you got four dudes.
[12:30] Speaker 4: You have to teach me how to play basketball. That's
[12:32] Speaker 4: a big difference in me going into my second year,
[12:34] Speaker 4: and you have to teach me.
[12:35] Speaker 2: How to play basketball?
[12:37] Speaker 3: But still.
[12:38] Speaker 4: And had a learning curve.
[12:39] Speaker 6: But four fast dudes on the break. So for the
[12:43] Speaker 6: most part, think about it at that time. J.Kidd's pushing.
[12:45] Speaker 6: He's one of the fastest in leading. He's probably the
[12:48] Speaker 6: fastest four, man. Kerry Kittles is one of the fastest, too.
[12:51] Speaker 4: Then you got RJ. RJ coming off the bench at
[12:53] Speaker 4: the time. So you're talking about a track meet. They
[12:56] Speaker 4: track me getting the shit out of people. You got J.Kidd, Kerry.
[13:00] Speaker 4: He is, absolutely. But it didn't fit us.
[13:02] Speaker 2: It didn't fit them. Right?
[13:03] Speaker 4: He didn't, like. Fast pass first point.
[13:07] Speaker 2: Guard, right?
[13:07] Speaker 3: Did y'all make the playoffs with him?
[13:09] Speaker 1: No.
[13:09] Speaker 4: No, we won 26 games. That's what I'm saying.
[13:11] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[13:13] Speaker 8: We doubled our win total the next year.
[13:17] Speaker 6: It's the player for that team, just like Marbury. Marbury
[13:20] Speaker 6: is over in Phoenix.
[13:22] Speaker 2: He leaves.
[13:22] Speaker 4: All they bring in was Steve Nash. It went from, what,
[13:25] Speaker 4: 29 games to 65.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Everywhere Marbury left, they got better, basically what y'all telling me.
[13:35] Speaker 9: Steve Nash come in, they make fun. I'm not talking
[13:37] Speaker 9: about Marbury like that, but y'all just saying.
[13:40] Speaker 4: But think about the style.
[13:41] Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.
[13:42] Speaker 4: Think about it.
[13:43] Speaker 6: He ain't the fast, the pass-first type of guy, so
[13:48] Speaker 6: now you're talking about Amari. Now he's throwing the ball
[13:50] Speaker 6: in Amari, and Amari's posting up.
[13:52] Speaker 2: That's not his talent, right? Now Steve Nash is there. Dive.
[13:57] Speaker 2: they meshed together.
[13:58] Speaker 6: Now everybody who else, Quinn Richardson, Joe Johnson, now everybody's
[14:02] Speaker 6: in their right element because of... See, with Marbury, when
[14:06] Speaker 6: he swings it, now you have to do your own work. So, like,
[14:08] Speaker 6: with us, like, so Keith guarded the four on defense.
[14:11] Speaker 6: I guarded the three on defense. Like, my rookie year.
[14:14] Speaker 6: My second year. No, I'm saying my second year. Like,
[14:16] Speaker 6: I guarded the threes because Keith was better offensively.
[14:19] Speaker 4: At the time than I was. I'm going to my
[14:21] Speaker 4: second year, right? So we had a formula, right? So, J.
[14:24] Speaker 2: Kidd, Carey, Me, Keith, three, four, four, three.
[14:28] Speaker 4: However you want to do it. And whatever five you
[14:31] Speaker 4: want to throw out there. We had Twin. He didn't
[14:35] Speaker 4: start right away, but you had him, we had Jason Collins,
[14:38] Speaker 4: we had Twin, we had Aaron Williams. We had Todd McCullough.
[14:43] Speaker 4: We had, at one point, we had Zoe.
[14:47] Speaker 2: Um.
[14:50] Speaker 4: We had Dikembe, God rest his soul.
[14:51] Speaker 1: Um.
[14:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, so we was trying different fives because we.
[14:58] Speaker 2: Which one made sense? Was it when Twin... We.
[15:02] Speaker 4: If Jason Collins was taller, maybe, but it was... If
[15:06] Speaker 4: Twin was taller, but... We just did all that shit
[15:09] Speaker 4: for Shaq. Y'all know it.
[15:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[15:11] Speaker 4: There was nothing else that we could do.
[15:12] Speaker 2: Like, we was.
[15:13] Speaker 4: Like, the East was... We had no problem in the East. Like,
[15:17] Speaker 4: even when Detroit getting Sheed, we still... We right there. Like,
[15:22] Speaker 4: we not... We right there. So it was just getting
[15:27] Speaker 4: over the hump and then worried about the finals. But no,
[15:31] Speaker 4: it's just Steph played different. I'm saying in J.K.A., right?
[15:34] Speaker 4: So it allowed me to become me and be able
[15:39] Speaker 4: to use my athleticism. Steph would always have to play
[15:41] Speaker 4: in the half court.
[15:42] Speaker 3: So, like I said, is he that much better?
[15:46] Speaker 2: At what he do?
[15:47] Speaker 10: Yes.
[15:47] Speaker 4: At what he do.
[15:48] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[15:49] Speaker 4: He's a better defender. He's a better passer. Steph is
[15:51] Speaker 4: a better scorer.
[15:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:54] Speaker 4: Steph scored 41 in 29 minutes. More athletic at times,
[15:59] Speaker 4: more can jump, but it's just... Here's another scenario where
[16:03] Speaker 4: it's two different.
[16:04] Speaker 2: You remember white chocolate for Sacramento, right? Pass first type
[16:10] Speaker 2: of guy.
[16:12] Speaker 6: They got better when they got Bibby, who's basically just
[16:16] Speaker 6: a shooter.
[16:17] Speaker 3: No.
[16:18] Speaker 1: Was it just Bibby they got, or did they get
[16:20] Speaker 1: somebody else?
[16:21] Speaker 3: But no.
[16:22] Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is, one is sitting here, one
[16:25] Speaker 6: is just half court, take great quality shots, and that's
[16:28] Speaker 6: what they needed at that moment in time, so they
[16:30] Speaker 6: elevated on switching out the pass first, because at that point,
[16:34] Speaker 6: they didn't need another pass when they got Weber, they
[16:36] Speaker 6: got Vlade. Now we just need people who can just
[16:38] Speaker 6: hit shots under control.
[16:39] Speaker 9: You're elevating from a lottery number one pick to the finals.
[16:43] Speaker 9: That's a big jump for one player. That's a big
[16:48] Speaker 9: jump on both teams. That's why J.K. should have got MVP.
[16:51] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[16:53] Speaker 4: That's how they gave Nash the MVP. That's why J.K.
[16:56] Speaker 4: should have got MVP. And they held that off the
[16:58] Speaker 4: floor shit. And they held that off the floor shit
[17:00] Speaker 4: against that man.
[17:02] Speaker 5: Who's the worst number one pick to you?
[17:04] Speaker 3: You being the number one pick.
[17:05] Speaker 5: Who's the worst number one pick ever?
[17:06] Speaker 3: Damn, that's crazy.
[17:07] Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
[17:09] Speaker 4: I can't answer that right now.
[17:10] Speaker 3: Unnecessary.
[17:11] Speaker 2: Because I'm in the process of something.
[17:13] Speaker 1: Brandon, there are.
[17:14] Speaker 3: Things in motion that are bigger. You got a bucket? Huh?
[17:19] Speaker 2: You got a bucket?
[17:20] Speaker 4: Oh, no, it's 6-2.
[17:21] Speaker 3: We winning. Oh.
[17:22] Speaker 2: You got to celebrate early, man.
[17:23] Speaker 3: Time out, time out.
[17:24] Speaker 4: I thought baby girl got a bucket.
[17:25] Speaker 2: Right, right.
[17:26] Speaker 4: But I'm not at liberty to answer that.
[17:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, brother, we don't bash people. We elevate. I just
[17:32] Speaker 3: asked a question.
[17:34] Speaker 2: I just asked a question.
[17:35] Speaker 3: We talking.
[17:36] Speaker 5: I mean, you said they got better without staff.
[17:39] Speaker 4: I'm not at liberty to answer that.
[17:40] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm trying to see the process.
[17:43] Speaker 4: So we elevated my life. Yeah, I'm not at liberty to...
[17:47] Speaker 4: I got things in motion, brother, that don't allow me to.
[17:52] Speaker 4: Engage in those kind of conversations at the particular moment.
[17:55] Speaker 4: That negativity you trying to bring.
[17:57] Speaker 3: I just asked that.
[17:57] Speaker 2: You trying to spew on this couch.
[17:59] Speaker 4: I scare you.
[18:00] Speaker 1: You say we elevate. Let's talk a little bit about elevation.
[18:03] Speaker 1: This weekend, the Raptors honored the Vince Sanity era by
[18:06] Speaker 1: making Hall of Famer Vince Carter the first player in
[18:08] Speaker 1: franchise history to have his jersey retired. So, Carter was
[18:13] Speaker 1: emotional during the nearly half-hour ceremony with his family, teammates,
[18:16] Speaker 1: and a sold-out crowd in the Scotiabank Arena watching on
[18:19] Speaker 1: and gave us this Great memeable moment.
[18:22] Speaker 3: Looked like Pastor Keon. Like a preacher right there. Got
[18:24] Speaker 3: to see it, obviously.
[18:25] Speaker 2: Like Pastor Keon.
[18:26] Speaker 3: Beautiful moment. Should have been the highlight of the evening.
[18:30] Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the Kings were in town, and the moment was
[18:33] Speaker 1: overshadowed by the return of another Raptors great in DeMar DeRozan,
[18:37] Speaker 1: who is currently in the midst of a beef with
[18:39] Speaker 1: Drake over his support of fellow Compton native Kendrick Lamar.
[18:42] Speaker 1: So DeRozan made an appearance in the Not Like Us
[18:45] Speaker 1: music video, hopped on stage during the pop-out. on Juneteenth
[18:49] Speaker 1: as Kendrick played Not Like Us several times in a row.
[18:53] Speaker 1: Westbrook also on stage, representing for the city. So Drake
[18:57] Speaker 1: sat courtside with OVO's head of security, Chubbs, and both
[19:01] Speaker 1: men could be seeing me mugging DeMar throughout the game.
[19:05] Speaker 1: Looking very emotional. So after the Raptors' overtime win, cameras
[19:10] Speaker 1: caught Drake mouthing, F out of here, pussy, as DeMar
[19:13] Speaker 1: and the Kings walked off the court. It was believed
[19:15] Speaker 1: that he was directing that towards DeMar. They're also giving
[19:20] Speaker 1: him thumbs down.
[19:21] Speaker 3: Wow.
[19:23] Speaker 2: See, but my thing is.
[19:24] Speaker 5: They're trolling.
[19:25] Speaker 4: And why DeMar didn't do it back. Like, what you
[19:28] Speaker 4: going to do during the game?
[19:29] Speaker 2: Nothing. Nothing. Therefore, fuck you too, pussy.
[19:34] Speaker 1: So Drake joined the Raptors broadcast crew during the game.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Drake joined the Raptors broadcast crew during the game, offered
[19:40] Speaker 1: these unprompted thoughts about the potential of DeRozan getting his
[19:43] Speaker 1: jersey retired by the Raptors down the road.
[19:47] Speaker 5: Yes, if you ever put a DeRozan banner up, I'll
[19:49] Speaker 5: go up there and pull it down.
[19:50] Speaker 3: Myself.
[19:50] Speaker 2: That's the answer to your question. Is that what you're
[19:52] Speaker 2: going to ask?
[19:53] Speaker 3: No!
[19:53] Speaker 2: Is that what you're going to ask?
[19:56] Speaker 3: No!
[19:57] Speaker 1: If you ever put a DeMar jersey up, I will
[19:59] Speaker 1: go down there and rip it down myself. So after
[20:01] Speaker 1: the game, DeMar had this response.
[20:05] Speaker 10: Today's broadcast, Drake said, if you ever put a DeRozan
[20:08] Speaker 10: banner up, I'll go up there and put it down myself.
[20:10] Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that?
[20:11] Speaker 4: Well, he's going to have a long way to climb
[20:13] Speaker 4: to take it down, so I tell him good luck.
[20:17] Speaker 1: DeMar also posted a clip on his IG story of
[20:19] Speaker 1: the legendary scene for Friday with Smokey saying, man, I
[20:22] Speaker 1: got mind control over Debo. He'd be like, shut the
[20:25] Speaker 1: F up, and I'd be quiet. But when he leaves,
[20:28] Speaker 1: I'd be talking again. Obviously, DeMar nicknamed Debo. I'm sure
[20:32] Speaker 1: he was referencing Drake and that. But what's your guys'
[20:34] Speaker 1: reaction to Drake and DeMar beefing during Vince Carter's Jersey
[20:38] Speaker 1: retirement ceremony. Brother, people are going to start with you because,
[20:41] Speaker 1: you know, black men, they got to.
[20:42] Speaker 3: Be bigger than I am. Pay respect to Vince.
[20:44] Speaker 9: Man, see, on days like this, brother, I wish we
[20:48] Speaker 9: all could get along. But in the essence of what's
[20:52] Speaker 9: going on, I wish DeMar would have said something to
[20:56] Speaker 9: Drake out on the court.
[20:57] Speaker 3: You know, I think trolling is.
[20:59] Speaker 9: Good, you know, at times, but that's not DeMar's character,
[21:04] Speaker 9: you feel me? He's more of a, you know, non-confrontational brother.
[21:12] Speaker 9: But sometimes you got to say, Drake, fuck you.
[21:15] Speaker 2: You feel me?
[21:17] Speaker 3: By any means necessary. Obviously, DeMar went to USC. You
[21:23] Speaker 3: went to USC. Obviously, known. And he will get his
[21:25] Speaker 3: jersey retired. For avoiding smoke.
[21:27] Speaker 9: DeMar will get his jersey retired. I feel like, for real,
[21:30] Speaker 9: he got 20-some thousand points. Not too far behind Steph.
[21:35] Speaker 3: In points. The only thing he's missing is rings.
[21:39] Speaker 4: Is he behind Steph? He's in front of Steph, right?
[21:41] Speaker 3: Behind. By like 80 points.
[21:45] Speaker 4: Steph caught him? Yeah.
[21:48] Speaker 2: Play more games.
[21:49] Speaker 1: Let's move it over to this side of the couch quickly. Mr. B,
[21:51] Speaker 1: our L.A. representative. Spent a lot of time in the
[21:54] Speaker 1: Compton area. Gardena as well. Shout out Robbie Clark. What's
[21:58] Speaker 1: your reaction to Drake and DeMar beefing during Vince Carter's
[22:01] Speaker 1: jersey retirement ceremony?
[22:03] Speaker 5: Shout out to Vince Carter.
[22:04] Speaker 7: I mean, he is, like, the staple of Toronto. I
[22:08] Speaker 7: think the slam dunk contest was, everybody know that was.
[22:11] Speaker 5: Like, insane.
[22:13] Speaker 1: Also brought bottle service to Toronto for those who didn't know.
[22:15] Speaker 1: They did previously not have bottle service.
[22:18] Speaker 3: No way.
[22:18] Speaker 1: Said we need bottles at the club. You could just
[22:20] Speaker 1: have a section with a table with a bottle.
[22:22] Speaker 4: What were they drinking before, shots and beer?
[22:25] Speaker 1: Whatever Canadians drink. I mean, it was in Toronto, so
[22:28] Speaker 1: it's not in America.
[22:28] Speaker 2: They don't know.
[22:29] Speaker 4: They're Canadian.
[22:30] Speaker 3: Okay, that's not all right, though. Molson's ice? I don't know.
[22:33] Speaker 5: I don't think nothing of it, though. They just trolling.
[22:36] Speaker 4: Man with the same eyes. I mean, a beef's got
[22:39] Speaker 4: to be both ways. Both got to be beef.
[22:42] Speaker 2: Demar didn't... Saying a thing on the court is really
[22:45] Speaker 2: not a beef.
[22:47] Speaker 6: But if you know Drake's personality, he's going to troll whoever.
[22:52] Speaker 6: So what he did on the court, he went there
[22:55] Speaker 6: for a reason.
[22:57] Speaker 4: He's not there for.
[22:59] Speaker 2: Vince Carter's.
[23:00] Speaker 6: Retirement he's there for DeMar just to fuck with him
[23:02] Speaker 6: right so.
[23:05] Speaker 2: I look at it as all just trolling.
[23:08] Speaker 5: I bet you he'll be there at DeMar's night oh
[23:10] Speaker 5: no of course he's gonna he'll be there for DeMar's.
[23:13] Speaker 6: Night but I mean it was a great I mean
[23:16] Speaker 6: you know I know Vince Carter you know legacy is
[23:21] Speaker 6: sealed he got the recognition that he needed he put
[23:26] Speaker 6: he really made Toronto popular especially from, you know, worldwide,
[23:32] Speaker 6: from just, you know, NBA players that, you know, him
[23:36] Speaker 6: playing there, him embracing it, him winning a dunk contest.
[23:39] Speaker 4: He had his Toronto weekends.
[23:41] Speaker 2: That was popping.
[23:42] Speaker 5: Eastern Conference Finals.
[23:43] Speaker 6: Right, so, you know, he is Toronto no matter how
[23:48] Speaker 6: you look at it, right? You know, there's only a
[23:50] Speaker 6: few people in Toronto themselves that's made it out that's
[23:55] Speaker 6: bigger than him.
[23:56] Speaker 4: Obviously, Drake, Justin Bieber. He's from Toronto.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Is he from Toronto? Yeah.
[24:04] Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's it?
[24:07] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[24:08] Speaker 3: The weekend. The weekend.
[24:09] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But other than that, it's
[24:11] Speaker 2: a lot.
[24:12] Speaker 4: Kawhi?
[24:13] Speaker 1: Nah.
[24:14] Speaker 2: Kawhi.
[24:14] Speaker 4: Nah, he ain't bigger than Vince.
[24:15] Speaker 3: Kawhi is a legend.
[24:16] Speaker 5: Kawhi is a legend for coming in.
[24:18] Speaker 4: No, he won him a championship, but he's not.
[24:21] Speaker 2: He wasn't.
[24:21] Speaker 4: He didn't.
[24:22] Speaker 2: He doesn't have.
[24:23] Speaker 1: He's not bigger than Vince. He's not bigger than Vince.
[24:25] Speaker 1: Kawhi pulled up.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Low bandage.
[24:26] Speaker 3: Got a chair.
[24:27] Speaker 5: In the jersey, but.
[24:28] Speaker 3: It's gangster, though.
[24:29] Speaker 4: When he came in there, I'm going to win y'all
[24:31] Speaker 4: some shit in the mouth.
[24:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gangster.
[24:32] Speaker 4: They didn't even get to really embrace Kawhi like that.
[24:35] Speaker 5: Do they retire his jersey?
[24:36] Speaker 3: No.
[24:37] Speaker 5: For bringing you your first championship?
[24:40] Speaker 2: Yes.
[24:40] Speaker 5: That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
[24:43] Speaker 2: You didn't bring it. What did you bring?
[24:45] Speaker 1: Kyle, Larry, everybody.
[24:46] Speaker 3: They're all there. We're all part of it.
[24:48] Speaker 2: That's fine.
[24:49] Speaker 3: Who's the final MVP here?
[24:51] Speaker 4: Cool, but what I'm saying.
[24:52] Speaker 2: What you mean cool? It ain't nothing cool.
[24:54] Speaker 3: Does he even have 1,000 points?
[24:57] Speaker 4: Yes.
[24:58] Speaker 1: Ever?
[24:58] Speaker 4: No, for Toronto.
[25:00] Speaker 8: I don't need 1,000 points. I did it in 82 games.
[25:02] Speaker 8: I did it in 82 games.
[25:04] Speaker 3: Kept Bray faster. Game winner. You talked about Steph or DeMar.
[25:08] Speaker 5: Biggest shot in Toronto's history ever.
[25:10] Speaker 3: DeMar has 11 more career points.
[25:12] Speaker 4: On Philly.
[25:13] Speaker 7: That's the biggest shot ever in Toronto's history.
[25:16] Speaker 1: Damar has 11 more points to step just throwing that
[25:18] Speaker 1: out there.
[25:18] Speaker 2: He has what?
[25:19] Speaker 3: 11 more points to step.
[25:21] Speaker 2: Okay.
[25:22] Speaker 3: It'll flip-flop, I think.
[25:23] Speaker 1: For most of this season, just depending on who's going
[25:26] Speaker 1: to play. What's the score now, Gil?
[25:28] Speaker 2: It's 8-9, y'all, but my daughter got two shots up already.
[25:31] Speaker 3: That's all we need. Good job.
[25:33] Speaker 1: How many assists?
[25:34] Speaker 3: How many assists?
[25:35] Speaker 2: Zero. Yes, yes.
[25:37] Speaker 3: That's what I was hoping for.
[25:38] Speaker 2: Zero.
[25:39] Speaker 3: Not passing for nothing.
[25:40] Speaker 1: But, Kane, what do you think about Drake, me mugging Damar,
[25:44] Speaker 1: going on the broadcasts, Talking reckless, Adam saying, F out
[25:48] Speaker 1: of here, P word, amongst other things.
[25:53] Speaker 4: Just being Drake, being emotional R & B, dude.
[25:58] Speaker 3: Damn.
[26:00] Speaker 1: R & B, so not hip-hop, R & B? A
[26:03] Speaker 1: little bit of both?
[26:04] Speaker 3: But how do you feel if you Drake?
[26:06] Speaker 2: Pop.
[26:07] Speaker 9: How do you feel if you Drake? Like, Demar, he's
[26:09] Speaker 9: going to hang with Drake all the time.
[26:11] Speaker 4: But he's from where he's from, though.
[26:14] Speaker 3: When the beef happens, you say, fuck.
[26:16] Speaker 4: But DeMar is where he's from, though.
[26:19] Speaker 3: That's true.
[26:20] Speaker 2: But do you even join in?
[26:22] Speaker 4: Listen, he don't ever have to go back to Toronto
[26:24] Speaker 4: except for to play. He from here.
[26:28] Speaker 10: Yeah.
[26:29] Speaker 4: From Compton. From Compton.
[26:31] Speaker 3: Compton.
[26:32] Speaker 4: That's deeper than rap.
[26:35] Speaker 3: But do you even join in, though?
[26:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:38] Speaker 3: If you, like, cool with that person.
[26:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, because they put you in a song.
[26:41] Speaker 9: You was in Toronto for a while, and Drake put
[26:44] Speaker 9: on songs.
[26:45] Speaker 3: The whole career.
[26:46] Speaker 2: The whole career.
[26:46] Speaker 1: So, I think DeMar hit Drake after he found out
[26:48] Speaker 1: he got traded. They shared an emotional moment.
[26:50] Speaker 3: Yeah. With the end of his Raptors.
[26:52] Speaker 5: I just don't like when basketball players get in the middle.
[26:54] Speaker 3: Of Rap Beach.
[26:55] Speaker 4: They didn't get in the middle of it.
[26:56] Speaker 3: You kind of is in it. How? They're making it.
[26:58] Speaker 3: It was forced.
[26:58] Speaker 8: It was one of those forced, like, I'll put you
[27:00] Speaker 8: in it.
[27:06] Speaker 3: I'm glad you rose came home. You're putting me in it.
[27:09] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I'm sitting there listening
[27:13] Speaker 2: to it in the morning like, ah.
[27:16] Speaker 9: But you put me in it at the same time
[27:18] Speaker 9: I went to the concert and was dancing to the songs.
[27:21] Speaker 2: In the video. In the video.
[27:22] Speaker 3: All up in the video.
[27:24] Speaker 1: Dancing. But as others have pointed out, LeBron and the
[27:28] Speaker 1: Lakers were also in Toronto recently. LeBron was also at
[27:31] Speaker 1: the pop out. showing his allegiance. LeBron and Drake had
[27:35] Speaker 1: a great relationship prior to this.
[27:36] Speaker 3: He wasn't on stage, though.
[27:37] Speaker 1: But was in the crowd singing all the words. Wasn't
[27:41] Speaker 1: on stage, though.
[27:42] Speaker 3: It's different.
[27:43] Speaker 2: Had Toronto ever beat LeBron?
[27:45] Speaker 3: Also known as LeBron talking. So therefore.
[27:47] Speaker 5: He ain't gonna say nothing. He ain't gonna say nothing.
[27:50] Speaker 4: He out there spanking ass.
[27:52] Speaker 2: Steel.
[27:53] Speaker 1: Lakers obviously got the dub. Bronny played solid seven, eight seconds.
[27:58] Speaker 1: Made his appearance to appease the Toronto crowd.
[28:00] Speaker 3: It is, yeah. It is. Let's move.
[28:02] Speaker 1: Nick, you already answered this, but I want to get
[28:03] Speaker 1: the rest of the couch opinion. DeRozan selected ninth overall
[28:06] Speaker 1: by the Raptors' 2009 draft, spent his first nine seasons
[28:09] Speaker 1: in Lebronto, four-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA selection during his time
[28:13] Speaker 1: as a Raptor, holds several franchise records, including most games, points,
[28:17] Speaker 1: field goals, and obviously, like I mentioned, was blindsided after
[28:20] Speaker 1: the team decided to trade him for Kawhi in the
[28:22] Speaker 1: summer of 2019. Will the Raptors retire DeMar DeRozan's jersey?
[28:27] Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
[28:30] Speaker 5: The thing is, does he want it?
[28:33] Speaker 3: For sure.
[28:33] Speaker 2: Of course.
[28:34] Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just asking.
[28:35] Speaker 2: I mean... You wouldn't want it?
[28:37] Speaker 3: Now Trey was 2018, forgive me.
[28:39] Speaker 4: It's not like he... It's not like... It's not even that.
[28:41] Speaker 5: It's just the way I left.
[28:42] Speaker 4: It's not like he asked to leave.
[28:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
[28:44] Speaker 5: I mean, that's the point. And then the way y'all
[28:45] Speaker 5: kind of did me was kind of like.
[28:47] Speaker 4: Yeah, so therefore.
[28:48] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[28:48] Speaker 3: I just.
[28:49] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[28:49] Speaker 5: My emotions are a little.
[28:50] Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, you know what?
[28:52] Speaker 10: No.
[28:52] Speaker 3: You know what?
[28:53] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take it because the fans will want me
[28:54] Speaker 5: to be there.
[28:55] Speaker 4: I'm going to take it because it's my legacy.
[28:56] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's my legacy.
[28:59] Speaker 2: This is what I did here. So I'm not going
[29:02] Speaker 2: to use my ego.
[29:03] Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, don't put my jersey.
[29:05] Speaker 2: No, I earned all that.
[29:06] Speaker 4: Give me my shit.
[29:08] Speaker 2: I can say fuck you after I leave. I mean,
[29:12] Speaker 2: that's fine.
[29:14] Speaker 9: You're going to still be remembered for what happened. It
[29:16] Speaker 9: was like perfect timing for Kawhi. KD get hurt. They
[29:22] Speaker 9: not winning if KD not hurt.
[29:23] Speaker 2: LeBron, LeBron. It was just a perfect timing.
[29:25] Speaker 9: Does that shot go in in the corner?
[29:28] Speaker 3: Who?
[29:29] Speaker 5: For them to get past Philly if Kawhi's not.
[29:31] Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying.
[29:32] Speaker 3: They used to smoke until they ran into LeBron.
[29:34] Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. It was a perfect timing
[29:36] Speaker 2: because the only thing that stopped.
[29:38] Speaker 1: Them from going... further was LeBron James.
[29:41] Speaker 4: They lost to.
[29:41] Speaker 5: Do they beat Milwaukee?
[29:42] Speaker 2: They lost... Do they beat Milwaukee? They were losing.
[29:45] Speaker 5: They were down to Milwaukee.
[29:46] Speaker 1: Toronto was down.
[29:48] Speaker 5: And then Kawhi Leonard tapped in and then flipped that.
[29:50] Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about.
[29:51] Speaker 6: If you look at the last couple years, Toronto was
[29:54] Speaker 6: the best team.
[29:55] Speaker 2: No, no, we get that. What I'm saying is they
[29:56] Speaker 2: was the best team in the East.
[29:58] Speaker 3: They were one.
[29:59] Speaker 2: No, they were one, two, one, one. They were in
[30:01] Speaker 2: front of.
[30:02] Speaker 3: I get where you're at, but in reality.
[30:04] Speaker 2: So they lost to LeBron.
[30:05] Speaker 6: So if LeBron's not there, those years, Toronto would have
[30:09] Speaker 6: probably been in a championship against Golden State Warriors. So
[30:12] Speaker 6: what happens is you just remove.
[30:14] Speaker 2: DeMar and put Kawhi in there. And then Broncos.
[30:18] Speaker 3: No.
[30:18] Speaker 2: Matter what, because LeBron's gone, Toronto is favorite. Do they
[30:22] Speaker 2: get past Milwaukee? Why wouldn't they?
[30:25] Speaker 3: They were down 3-1.
[30:26] Speaker 2: They was not going.
[30:27] Speaker 1: To get past Milwaukee.
[30:28] Speaker 3: Who was down 3-1?
[30:29] Speaker 2: 2-0, 2-0.
[30:30] Speaker 1: 2-0.
[30:30] Speaker 2: They was down 2-0 to, um, to, um, Milwaukee.
[30:33] Speaker 5: Toronto was.
[30:33] Speaker 3: You think with.
[30:35] Speaker 8: DeMar, they was going to beat Milwaukee?
[30:37] Speaker 2: Did you see Kawhi Leonard tapping in?
[30:39] Speaker 9: I would have never been in that situation.
[30:41] Speaker 2: They would have never been there.
[30:43] Speaker 3: No, they would have been up 2-0.
[30:46] Speaker 8: They would not have been beating Washington.
[30:49] Speaker 9: And then they definitely wouldn't have beat the Sixers.
[30:52] Speaker 3: They beat them all them other years.
[30:53] Speaker 2: What was stopping them?
[30:56] Speaker 5: I don't think they're running their back like that again.
[30:58] Speaker 4: Who wasn't running it back?
[30:59] Speaker 5: I don't think Toronto's running it back.
[31:00] Speaker 4: Why do you think it was easy for him? Because
[31:01] Speaker 4: the team was already good.
[31:02] Speaker 2: They were one. They were one a year before.
[31:04] Speaker 5: I just don't think so.
[31:05] Speaker 9: I'm just saying, they made it to the Eastern Conference
[31:07] Speaker 9: Finals every year and lost.
[31:09] Speaker 3: No, that's fine.
[31:09] Speaker 5: No, no, for sure. I just don't, I don't know.
[31:11] Speaker 3: So what would change? I don't, you can't say they
[31:14] Speaker 3: would change.
[31:14] Speaker 8: I mean, just look how the playoffs went.
[31:16] Speaker 5: Look how it went. Does that shot go in?
[31:19] Speaker 2: There wouldn't be no shot.
[31:20] Speaker 8: They wouldn't even be there. That's what I'm saying. You're
[31:23] Speaker 8: talking about a shot. They're not even getting past Milwaukee.
[31:26] Speaker 8: They're not beating Milwaukee that year.
[31:27] Speaker 2: That's why.
[31:27] Speaker 5: They're not beating Milwaukee that year.
[31:29] Speaker 2: That's why.
[31:29] Speaker 3: Why not?
[31:29] Speaker 2: That's why. Giannis was running that shit. They beat them
[31:32] Speaker 2: the year before.
[31:33] Speaker 3: They beat them the year before.
[31:35] Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here, man.
[31:37] Speaker 3: It's a different year. It's a new year.
[31:38] Speaker 2: People get better, right?
[31:39] Speaker 3: Players get better.
[31:40] Speaker 2: They get weaker?
[31:44] Speaker 5: Every year the league gets better, right?
[31:46] Speaker 2: Every year the league gets better, right? 56 wins, they
[31:50] Speaker 2: lose to LeBron. 51 wins, they lose to LeBron.
[31:53] Speaker 4: 59 wins, they lose to LeBron.
[31:54] Speaker 6: So the year before he got there, they won 59 games.
[31:57] Speaker 2: Damn.
[31:58] Speaker 6: Then you add Kawhi, you win 58 games. So what
[32:01] Speaker 6: if the team stayed together the whole time?
[32:04] Speaker 2: Now LeBron's gone.
[32:04] Speaker 5: It's different when you're in the playoffs.
[32:06] Speaker 4: It's a different type of dog when you're in the playoffs.
[32:08] Speaker 5: It's a different type of dog.
[32:09] Speaker 2: They only lost to LeBron.
[32:11] Speaker 3: It's a different type of dog. It's a different type
[32:13] Speaker 3: of dog. It's a different type of dog.
[32:14] Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is they wouldn't have been no
[32:16] Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks. They would have been LeBron. They would have
[32:20] Speaker 4: beat LeBron if they.
[32:21] Speaker 2: Had Kawhi Leonard. Before that.
[32:23] Speaker 5: They would have beat LeBron.
[32:24] Speaker 8: LeBron did not want to see Kawhi Leonard in no
[32:26] Speaker 8: damn finals.
[32:26] Speaker 2: Stop that.
[32:27] Speaker 3: Stop that.
[32:28] Speaker 2: We saw that with the slurs. 23-year-olds coming up in
[32:32] Speaker 2: there in the finals.
[32:33] Speaker 3: Quit that shit, man.
[32:34] Speaker 2: Quit that shit.
[32:35] Speaker 8: Man, y'all better be glad Kawhi Leonard wasn't in the East.
[32:37] Speaker 9: I know I'm talking about how much LeBron averaged on
[32:39] Speaker 9: Kawhi in that series.
[32:40] Speaker 8: Man, you better be glad Kawhi Leonard wasn't in the
[32:42] Speaker 8: East during that time.
[32:44] Speaker 5: 28, 50% from the field, 53% from the field. I
[32:46] Speaker 5: got Kawhi Leonard fucked up, man.
[32:48] Speaker 4: Come on.
[32:48] Speaker 8: Y'all better be glad Kawhi Leonard wasn't on that team
[32:50] Speaker 8: in the East back then when they.
[32:51] Speaker 5: Was making that run.
[32:52] Speaker 8: They won 59 games a year before. Listen, I know
[32:54] Speaker 8: they would have won it before that. They would have
[32:56] Speaker 8: been up there having two.
[32:57] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is they won 59 games.
[32:58] Speaker 3: I got Kawhi Leonard.
[32:59] Speaker 1: Stop.
[32:59] Speaker 2: You're not going to.
[33:01] Speaker 4: I'm talking about the playoffs, though.
[33:03] Speaker 8: I get what you do in the regular season for
[33:04] Speaker 8: 82 games. When it comes to the playoffs, it's a
[33:06] Speaker 8: different type of dog.
[33:07] Speaker 3: They won, though, in the playoffs.
[33:09] Speaker 2: They didn't win it all. They didn't win it all.
[33:11] Speaker 2: They lost to the same person.
[33:12] Speaker 4: And that person wasn't there when Kawhi got there.
[33:15] Speaker 8: Okay, and if Kawhi was there, okay, take the Rosen
[33:17] Speaker 8: off them ears.
[33:17] Speaker 4: They're getting one, Toronto Bears.
[33:19] Speaker 2: They're getting one. They might have two. Oh, man. I
[33:23] Speaker 2: don't know.
[33:23] Speaker 5: Okay, well, that's just me.
[33:25] Speaker 3: That's fine.
[33:27] Speaker 2: Stay, brother.
[33:29] Speaker 3: Nah.
[33:29] Speaker 5: No, you got Kawhi Leonard.
[33:30] Speaker 4: I don't know why y'all keep fighting Kawhi Leonard.
[33:32] Speaker 3: Oh, we're not. We support Kawhi. I support him. Lebronzo
[33:36] Speaker 3: is Lebronzo for real.
[33:36] Speaker 1: I mean, shit, Kawhi Leonard don't go down.
[33:38] Speaker 8: They beat the Warriors if he don't sprain his ankle.
[33:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, that is... Come on, man. Y'all got.
[33:43] Speaker 8: Come on, stop fighting like he ain't that dude.
[33:45] Speaker 2: When he....
[33:47] Speaker 8: Come on, man, when he sprained his ankle on the side,
[33:49] Speaker 8: if he don't.
[33:50] Speaker 2: Go down, they beat the Warriors.
[33:51] Speaker 3: I think that's fair.
[33:52] Speaker 5: This is my conversation, what I'm saying.
[33:54] Speaker 3: Who? Who? When he just spurs up a bit? Who?
[33:57] Speaker 1: Who?
[33:59] Speaker 4: Okay, that's cool. You got Tim Duncan, you got a
[34:02] Speaker 4: nice little ball.
[34:03] Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, 38.
[34:04] Speaker 5: Tim Duncan, 37, 38.
[34:05] Speaker 8: Damn near can run up and down.
[34:07] Speaker 3: LeBron, 30, 40.
[34:09] Speaker 1: So we asked the chat, will the Raptors retire DeMar
[34:12] Speaker 1: DeRozan's jersey? 80% said yes.
[34:14] Speaker 3: Good job, Chad. Chad is locked in on this glorious Monday.
[34:17] Speaker 3: It's been 100.
[34:18] Speaker 1: It's been 100, yeah. Well, let's stay in the Eastern Conference.
[34:23] Speaker 1: Last week, the NBA fined the Sixers $ 100, 000 for public
[34:26] Speaker 1: statements around the health status of all-NBA center Joel Embiid
[34:29] Speaker 1: after launching an investigation around comments made about the former
[34:32] Speaker 1: MVP's playing status this season. NBA's investigation showed that the
[34:35] Speaker 1: Sixers did not violate the player participation policy with Embiid's
[34:39] Speaker 1: missed games, but did so with the public comments that
[34:41] Speaker 1: did not properly reflect his health issues with his knee.
[34:44] Speaker 1: In a statement, the league cited comments made by President
[34:46] Speaker 1: of Basketball Ops Darryl Morey and Coach Nick Nurse that
[34:48] Speaker 1: were inconsistent with Joel Embiid's health status in violation of
[34:51] Speaker 1: NBA rules. Embiid yet to play a game this season,
[34:54] Speaker 1: but has been scrimmaging with the team and is expected
[34:56] Speaker 1: to make his return to the court soon. But that
[34:58] Speaker 1: return may be delayed after an altercation with a reporter
[35:02] Speaker 1: Saturday night. So it started with Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Marcus
[35:06] Speaker 1: Hayes wrote an article calling out Embiid and made reference
[35:09] Speaker 1: to his deceased brother, who Embiid named his son after, saying, quote,
[35:14] Speaker 1: Joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur,
[35:17] Speaker 1: as the major inflection point in his basketball career. He
[35:20] Speaker 1: often says that he wants to be great to leave
[35:22] Speaker 1: a legacy for the boy named after his little brother
[35:24] Speaker 1: who tragically died in an automobile accident when Embiid was
[35:27] Speaker 1: in his first year as a 76er. Well, in order
[35:30] Speaker 1: to be great at your job, you first have to
[35:32] Speaker 1: show up for work.
[35:34] Speaker 3: So, yeah.
[35:36] Speaker 4: Ah.
[35:37] Speaker 1: That line, I think, has since been removed from the article. Nonetheless,
[35:40] Speaker 1: damage done. Embiid saw it, responded to the comments during
[35:43] Speaker 1: media availability this past Friday.
[35:46] Speaker 10: I've broken my face twice. I came back early with
[35:50] Speaker 10: the risk of losing my vision. I have broken fingers.
[35:55] Speaker 10: I still came back. So I'm not going to see
[35:58] Speaker 10: him until I, like, You know, when I see people
[36:03] Speaker 10: saying he doesn't want to play, I've been way too much.
[36:08] Speaker 10: I've done way too much, you know, for this city and,
[36:11] Speaker 10: you know, putting myself at risk, you know, for people
[36:16] Speaker 10: to be saying that. So I do think he's bullshit
[36:21] Speaker 10: like that dude.
[36:21] Speaker 2: He's not here.
[36:22] Speaker 10: Marcus, whatever his name is. I've done way too much
[36:25] Speaker 10: for this fucking city to be treated like this.
[36:28] Speaker 3: So....
[36:31] Speaker 2: Don't wait, wait too fucking much.
[36:32] Speaker 10: But like I said, I wish I was as lucky
[36:36] Speaker 10: as other ones, but that doesn't mean that I'm not
[36:40] Speaker 10: trying that, you know, I'm not, you know, doing whatever
[36:44] Speaker 10: it takes to be out there, which I'm going to
[36:46] Speaker 10: be here pretty soon.
[36:48] Speaker 1: So I heard the comments. Marcus was not there. But
[36:55] Speaker 1: Saturday after Sixers lost to the Grizzlies, Embiid confronted Hayes
[36:58] Speaker 1: in the locker room. with reports that Embiid told Hayes,
[37:01] Speaker 1: the next time you bring up my dead brother and
[37:03] Speaker 1: my son again, you're going to see what I'm going
[37:04] Speaker 1: to do to you, and I'm going to have to
[37:07] Speaker 1: live with the consequences. There's also reports that Embiid shoved Hayes,
[37:12] Speaker 1: and according to Hayes, shortly after the incident, he was
[37:14] Speaker 1: escorted to a meeting with Maury and GM Elton Brand,
[37:17] Speaker 1: where they apologized for the incident and agreed that Embiid's
[37:20] Speaker 1: actions were unacceptable. But what do y'all think about this
[37:23] Speaker 1: whole situation with Embiid coming out of a room or
[37:27] Speaker 1: disrespecting his family?
[37:29] Speaker 4: So he and Will Smith him. Keep my brother's name
[37:34] Speaker 4: out your mother, and then got the slapping.
[37:37] Speaker 3: That would have been cool right there. So initial reports
[37:39] Speaker 3: were that it was a punch.
[37:40] Speaker 1: It was since changed to say that it was a shove,
[37:43] Speaker 1: I believe open-handed to the neck area.
[37:45] Speaker 2: A little choke.
[37:46] Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds all right.
[37:47] Speaker 2: That sounds all right, though. A little African chop.
[37:52] Speaker 10: Cool, man.
[37:53] Speaker 1: As Vernon Maxwell would say, them big-ass African hands.
[37:59] Speaker 2: He can't help it. He can't help it. I'm sorry.
[38:01] Speaker 2: You can't help it.
[38:02] Speaker 3: You can't help it.
[38:05] Speaker 9: I know, that's why he couldn't grab him with his little,
[38:07] Speaker 9: with his claws.
[38:09] Speaker 3: With his claws. His regular hands.
[38:13] Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man.
[38:14] Speaker 3: Africans got claws. Wolverine.
[38:19] Speaker 1: But in all sincerity, obviously, NBA's investigating the situation now.
[38:22] Speaker 1: Like I said, NBA was doing five-on-five scrimmaging, was hoping
[38:25] Speaker 1: to come back.
[38:27] Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go back to, right, let's go back.
[38:32] Speaker 3: Yes.
[38:34] Speaker 4: None of this would have been a thing had he
[38:39] Speaker 4: not played his ass in the Olympics. If Philadelphia 76ers
[38:41] Speaker 4: would have stepped in and told him, you're not healthy,
[38:44] Speaker 4: let's not even fuck with this right now. Sit down
[38:46] Speaker 4: and get healthy for the beginning of the season, be
[38:48] Speaker 4: ready for the beginning of the season. If he was
[38:49] Speaker 4: ready for the beginning of the season, none of this
[38:50] Speaker 4: article wouldn't have been a thing, right? Twofold. This was Friday,
[38:59] Speaker 4: the interview he did was Friday. They play Saturday, right?
[39:02] Speaker 3: They play Saturday against the Grizzlies.
[39:03] Speaker 2: Why give the motherfucking dude a media pass?
[39:07] Speaker 3: He was in the locker room.
[39:08] Speaker 2: Why?
[39:10] Speaker 3: Why? Mm-hmm. Why?
[39:13] Speaker 4: Why, why, Philly? So this is... So why put him
[39:19] Speaker 4: in that.
[39:19] Speaker 2: See, this is.
[39:20] Speaker 3: He's messing up anyway. Huh?
[39:22] Speaker 4: Philly messing up anyway.
[39:24] Speaker 2: So, Philly, you didn't stop him from playing the Olympics. Mm-hmm.
[39:28] Speaker 3: Shit ass.
[39:29] Speaker 4: Definitely shit ass. should have stepped in. You can step in.
[39:32] Speaker 4: You paying him.
[39:32] Speaker 1: I know.
[39:33] Speaker 2: I get it.
[39:34] Speaker 4: You paying him.
[39:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[39:34] Speaker 4: So, therefore, people say, oh, they ain't had no say-so.
[39:37] Speaker 4: You had some say-so.
[39:38] Speaker 2: You did.
[39:39] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[39:40] Speaker 2: It's either this or this. Give him an ultimatum.
[39:42] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[39:43] Speaker 4: At this particular point. We're trying to win around here.
[39:46] Speaker 4: Should have sat his ass down this summer. I'm a
[39:48] Speaker 4: firm believer in that. And why you get to do
[39:50] Speaker 4: the media pass? Why? They pull people's media pass for less.
[39:55] Speaker 4: You put it for less. Hen already made a statement
[39:58] Speaker 4: and called the man by name.
[40:00] Speaker 3: Marcus whatever his name is.
[40:02] Speaker 2: Joel called him by name on Friday.
[40:05] Speaker 4: You turn around and not revoke his media pass the
[40:09] Speaker 4: very next day? Come on, man. We got to do better, dog. Like,
[40:14] Speaker 4: you put him in a situation for this to happen.
[40:17] Speaker 2: And why you going to apologize?
[40:19] Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to apologize to the man because he
[40:21] Speaker 4: shouldn't have been there in the first place. Well, Joel
[40:24] Speaker 4: needs to control himself.
[40:25] Speaker 2: No, he don't. No, he don't.
[40:27] Speaker 4: The dude shouldn't have been there. He was already upset
[40:29] Speaker 4: about it before the game even started. So him seeing
[40:32] Speaker 4: him is only going to trigger that emotion even more.
[40:36] Speaker 4: He was waiting for him. Waiting for him. Waiting for him.
[40:39] Speaker 2: I'm going to go to work today.
[40:40] Speaker 4: I wish that motherfucker would be here.
[40:43] Speaker 3: For sure.
[40:44] Speaker 2: I'm looking for him.
[40:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:46] Speaker 2: So, yeah, Philly, yeah.
[40:49] Speaker 9: And they don't, I know, like, even with the, I'm
[40:53] Speaker 9: not playing back-to-backs, it's like they're leaving him out to dry.
[40:56] Speaker 9: The media taking shots at him. I know he didn't
[40:58] Speaker 9: come up with that by himself. Even with that.
[41:01] Speaker 3: Like, they ain't came out and said nothing.
[41:04] Speaker 4: Hold on, let me just, I'm literally, did he say
[41:06] Speaker 4: I might not play back-to-backs or I'm not?
[41:08] Speaker 3: He said, I probably won't play back-to-back. Probably.
[41:11] Speaker 1: But with the caveat being that he wants to be
[41:13] Speaker 1: the healthiest as possible for the postseason.
[41:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm saying, if he would have came out
[41:16] Speaker 4: from the team, everybody would have been like, he's definitely
[41:18] Speaker 4: not playing back-to-back. Then y'all got this thing to go on.
[41:21] Speaker 2: But go ahead, brother.
[41:23] Speaker 3: Okay. Brother P.
[41:24] Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, for that, I think they're leaving him
[41:26] Speaker 9: out to dry. Nobody came to his rescue to say
[41:29] Speaker 9: they acting like it's just him. I know he ain't
[41:31] Speaker 9: just coming with that. And another thing, he bring up,
[41:35] Speaker 9: you know, as a person that lost his brother, I
[41:37] Speaker 9: know that Once you talk about your family, somebody lost,
[41:42] Speaker 9: the emotions come.
[41:43] Speaker 4: You know what's so funny? If you look at it
[41:45] Speaker 4: just from us looking at it, you'd be like, I mean,
[41:47] Speaker 4: he didn't say anything bad, but.
[41:51] Speaker 2: It don't matter. But where his mind is, he's going
[41:54] Speaker 2: to take it.
[41:55] Speaker 4: Everybody take it.
[41:56] Speaker 2: That end part is.
[41:57] Speaker 6: The end part messes up the top part, right? That
[42:01] Speaker 6: end part is... first you got to come to work
[42:03] Speaker 6: in shape. That right there, all that shit got scrambled, right? Like,
[42:08] Speaker 6: I'm not going to take accountability for this bottom part.
[42:10] Speaker 2: God damn it, you said this. And this is what
[42:12] Speaker 2: we're going to address, right? And that's where that's from.
[42:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:16] Speaker 4: But if you're lying.
[42:17] Speaker 1: Do you take issue with him bringing up his deceased
[42:22] Speaker 1: brother and son?
[42:23] Speaker 3: Just leave it alone. It's too much.
[42:27] Speaker 4: You can write your story without mentioning his son or
[42:30] Speaker 4: his brother.
[42:30] Speaker 1: The article had legitimate gripes in it, but I think
[42:33] Speaker 1: that part's different.
[42:34] Speaker 3: You can leave it out. And, like, Nick, you mentioned...
[42:36] Speaker 3: You lost a brother. I've lost a brother before, like.
[42:39] Speaker 2: He wanted to... You can say... There was a way... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[42:43] Speaker 3: He wanted to.
[42:44] Speaker 8: Trying to sound cute, trying to get a little too
[42:46] Speaker 8: cute with the words.
[42:46] Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's the end part.
[42:48] Speaker 4: Like, if you said in a way where, you know,
[42:51] Speaker 4: you made statements about, you know, family members and you
[42:53] Speaker 4: want to leave a great legacy for them.
[42:57] Speaker 2: Are you doing that?
[43:00] Speaker 4: Have you been.
[43:02] Speaker 2: putting yourself in a position where you are leaving a
[43:04] Speaker 2: great legacy for them.
[43:06] Speaker 9: But I think even that, though.
[43:10] Speaker 4: So I can look at that and be like, but
[43:13] Speaker 4: that right there is a real attack on it for
[43:17] Speaker 4: him not to even pay attention to what you're saying,
[43:20] Speaker 4: and he just gets to play defense now.
[43:23] Speaker 9: But even if he already left a legacy for his kids,
[43:27] Speaker 9: But did he say for everything I've done for the city?
[43:31] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[43:32] Speaker 5: What has he done for the city?
[43:33] Speaker 2: He named it.
[43:34] Speaker 3: Huh?
[43:34] Speaker 2: He named it.
[43:34] Speaker 3: What? The process.
[43:35] Speaker 2: He named it. He named it. What?
[43:37] Speaker 3: I suck at all.
[43:38] Speaker 2: I mean, but.
[43:39] Speaker 8: What has he done for the city that AI hasn't done?
[43:41] Speaker 2: We don't know.
[43:41] Speaker 3: We don't know.
[43:42] Speaker 5: AI used to play through everything.
[43:43] Speaker 3: No, but what I'm saying is we.
[43:46] Speaker 2: A.I.
[43:46] Speaker 5: Get to the finals and he.
[43:47] Speaker 3: And they kicked him out. Same thing they gonna do
[43:49] Speaker 3: with me.
[43:49] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[43:50] Speaker 8: My thing is, what have you done? You ain't done
[43:52] Speaker 8: nothing for Philly like A.I.
[43:53] Speaker 2: I don't know. Like, A.I.
[43:54] Speaker 3: Played through everything.
[43:55] Speaker 2: He did, too.
[43:56] Speaker 3: Huh?
[43:57] Speaker 2: He do, too. We don't know.
[43:58] Speaker 5: Have A.I.
[43:59] Speaker 3: Ever played with half-faced?
[44:00] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is.
[44:01] Speaker 3: His face was frozen.
[44:02] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[44:03] Speaker 3: You're not going outside.
[44:03] Speaker 5: He act like he doing more than A.I.
[44:05] Speaker 2: Has done.
[44:05] Speaker 3: You're not going in front of the media.
[44:07] Speaker 2: Why is A.I. in the question?
[44:09] Speaker 4: But why does it have to be a comparison, bro?
[44:11] Speaker 8: Because that's how I feel.
[44:13] Speaker 4: But why does it have to be a comparison?
[44:15] Speaker 5: Because A.I.
[44:16] Speaker 2: They don't make it right because you fucking feel that way.
[44:17] Speaker 2: I don't care if it is. I don't care if
[44:19] Speaker 2: it's right or not. It's my fucking opinion. So why
[44:20] Speaker 2: bring it up?
[44:21] Speaker 5: It's my fucking opinion.
[44:22] Speaker 2: Yes, so your opinion is fucking, don't compare. Well, I
[44:24] Speaker 2: don't care. That's my opinion.
[44:25] Speaker 1: A.I.
[44:25] Speaker 2: Did what he did. He do what he do. Suck
[44:27] Speaker 2: it up and go play. He has.
[44:28] Speaker 3: A.I.
[44:29] Speaker 2: Sucked it in the finals, 4-1, but I still fucking
[44:30] Speaker 2: did it. Don't fucking do it.
[44:31] Speaker 3: Stop being a big bitch.
[44:32] Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it. He's the one talking
[44:34] Speaker 2: about it. What do you do for the city? What
[44:35] Speaker 2: do you do for the city?
[44:35] Speaker 3: Nothing.
[44:36] Speaker 2: What do you do for the city?
[44:37] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[44:38] Speaker 3: Sit your ass down.
[44:38] Speaker 2: Sit your ass down. But he didn't.
[44:40] Speaker 1: Stop complaining.
[44:40] Speaker 3: Stop complaining.
[44:41] Speaker 2: We don't care. But he did.
[44:54] Speaker 4: So was you bitches a motherfucker playing about when you
[44:56] Speaker 4: got hurt to a motherfucker that you couldn't perform the
[44:57] Speaker 4: way you could?
[44:58] Speaker 2: Was that bad? Was motherfuckers on your ass for no reason?
[45:00] Speaker 3: No, they wasn't. Exactly.
[45:02] Speaker 2: Well, sit your ass down then. I wasn't, though. Well, exactly.
[45:05] Speaker 3: Okay. I don't care.
[45:06] Speaker 2: Exactly. Don't put him in that category then. I did, though.
[45:08] Speaker 3: But I did.
[45:09] Speaker 2: You in the same fucking category then. I did sit
[45:10] Speaker 2: my ass down. You in the same category. I did
[45:11] Speaker 2: sit my ass down. You know you did. You kept
[45:13] Speaker 2: trying to play.
[45:14] Speaker 3: Okay. Feel these guns.
[45:14] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. He can go. Feel these guns.
[45:16] Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
[45:17] Speaker 2: You kept trying to play.
[45:18] Speaker 4: Don't throw stones in no fucking glass house, dude.
[45:20] Speaker 3: I can throw.
[45:20] Speaker 2: Man, I can do whatever the fuck I want, bro.
[45:22] Speaker 2: He ain't A.I., so don't talk about all that.
[45:25] Speaker 3: Who do you deserve? I am.
[45:27] Speaker 2: And I am. And I'm standing on it. And I'm
[45:28] Speaker 2: standing on it. Standing on what? There's nothing to fucking
[45:31] Speaker 2: stand on. I'm standing on it. You ain't A.I. There's
[45:32] Speaker 2: nothing to fucking stand on.
[45:34] Speaker 1: You ain't do shit for Philly.
[45:35] Speaker 3: There's nothing to stand on.
[45:35] Speaker 2: You ain't do shit for Philly, bro. There's nothing to fucking.
[45:37] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you say. There's nothing
[45:39] Speaker 2: to stand on.
[45:39] Speaker 3: You ain't A.I.
[45:40] Speaker 2: You ain't A.I. There's nothing to fucking stand on.
[45:43] Speaker 1: Seven straight playoff appearances. Obviously, they have not advanced past
[45:46] Speaker 1: second round.
[45:46] Speaker 3: MVP. All the NBAs. That's right. He's brought some joy.
[45:51] Speaker 2: Back to the city.
[45:52] Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is.
[45:54] Speaker 2: We don't know what he... The problem is, we don't
[45:56] Speaker 2: know what he's doing for the city. All right, so
[46:00] Speaker 2: you don't know what he's doing for the city. You
[46:02] Speaker 2: don't know what he's doing for the organization. What is
[46:04] Speaker 2: he doing? We don't know.
[46:05] Speaker 3: That's between him and two. You didn't do shit.
[46:09] Speaker 2: I saw a six-foot go in there and do what
[46:10] Speaker 2: he do. You know what happened?
[46:12] Speaker 3: You got way more than what he got.
[46:13] Speaker 2: You got way more than what he got. Come on, man.
[46:16] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. We don't know what's going on
[46:17] Speaker 2: behind us. Because it is.
[46:19] Speaker 5: I made it a comparison.
[46:20] Speaker 1: Why?
[46:20] Speaker 3: But it don't make it right?
[46:21] Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to do.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Just because you said it didn't make it right?
[46:23] Speaker 4: Just because you said it didn't make it right?
[46:25] Speaker 2: So what? Just because you said it didn't make it right?
[46:26] Speaker 2: For me, it do. For you, it do. And you're
[46:28] Speaker 2: the only one.
[46:29] Speaker 4: That thinks that fucking way. Like, when I signed my 111, right?
[46:33] Speaker 4: And people say, that's a bad deal. You don't know
[46:36] Speaker 4: what I did for this organization. You don't know what
[46:38] Speaker 4: I did for this owner, right? What I did for
[46:41] Speaker 4: this owner to earn that, that has, you can't question it.
[46:44] Speaker 4: You looking at stats. Not, I'm walking up every day
[46:48] Speaker 4: to this man. Right, I'm walking up every day saying hello.
[46:52] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is the body of work is what
[46:54] Speaker 4: you see. How about the body of work when there's
[46:57] Speaker 4: no court? What I'm saying is you don't know what
[46:59] Speaker 4: he's doing with the owner. You don't know what he's
[47:00] Speaker 4: doing in the city itself.
[47:03] Speaker 2: That's the problem.
[47:04] Speaker 4: Right, so when I signed my 111, when I signed
[47:06] Speaker 4: my 111, what I'm saying is when I signed my 111,
[47:09] Speaker 4: the owner, for what I did.
[47:10] Speaker 3: This is you.
[47:11] Speaker 2: There's no question. Everybody else questions because I'm not playing.
[47:14] Speaker 5: I don't want to hear all that. I'm just talking
[47:16] Speaker 5: about what you do.
[47:16] Speaker 2: Are you going to play or not? We don't know
[47:18] Speaker 2: what he's done.
[47:19] Speaker 5: We have to thank AI for all this.
[47:20] Speaker 2: AI didn't have to do all this. Did they hesitate
[47:23] Speaker 2: when they gave him that money?
[47:24] Speaker 3: No.
[47:24] Speaker 2: AI went to the mall.
[47:25] Speaker 4: AI had an infamous press conference and people were fucking
[47:28] Speaker 4: questioning him.
[47:29] Speaker 3: That's fine.
[47:29] Speaker 2: But my players are. We in the finals, though. Didn't
[47:33] Speaker 2: they question him at the time? They questioned him at
[47:35] Speaker 2: the time. They questioned him at the time. Local media.
[47:37] Speaker 5: MVP in the finals.
[47:38] Speaker 4: Local media did the same fucking thing.
[47:40] Speaker 2: They did the same thing.
[47:41] Speaker 4: Local media did the same fucking thing to Chuck.
[47:43] Speaker 2: MVP in the finals.
[47:44] Speaker 3: MVP in the finals.
[47:45] Speaker 2: Who got MVP in the finals? All that noise being
[47:47] Speaker 2: behind him.
[47:47] Speaker 3: MVP in the finals.
[47:48] Speaker 2: I'm still here. What you going to say about me?
[47:51] Speaker 2: I'm still here.
[47:51] Speaker 4: So he has a finals appearance.
[47:53] Speaker 2: So that's the only thing at this point. And he
[47:55] Speaker 2: questioned him.
[47:56] Speaker 4: So that's the only thing at this point.
[47:59] Speaker 5: It ain't me.
[47:59] Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.
[48:01] Speaker 4: At this point, that's the only thing that Joel Embiid
[48:03] Speaker 4: has over Allen Iverson at this point in his career
[48:05] Speaker 4: is a finals appearance.
[48:07] Speaker 3: Get there.
[48:08] Speaker 2: That's it. Get there. But what I'm saying is they
[48:10] Speaker 2: questioned him. He has time. His career ain't over yet.
[48:12] Speaker 4: His career ain't over yet.
[48:15] Speaker 3: Get there.
[48:15] Speaker 2: His career ain't over yet.
[48:16] Speaker 3: Well, get there.
[48:17] Speaker 2: Get there and appeal to your judge. All I'm saying
[48:18] Speaker 2: is they questioned the AI at that point. I love
[48:20] Speaker 2: AI to death.
[48:20] Speaker 4: And he said, what are we sitting here? We talking
[48:22] Speaker 4: about practice? We ain't talking about the death. And that's
[48:24] Speaker 4: the local media.
[48:25] Speaker 2: Because they're questioning the media. They're questioning it. And I
[48:28] Speaker 2: answered the question. And he's like, I went. I answered
[48:31] Speaker 2: the question. MVP, and I went to the finals. He
[48:33] Speaker 2: didn't that year. Yes, he did. It was the same year. No,
[48:35] Speaker 2: it wasn't. No, it was not. No, it wasn't.
[48:37] Speaker 4: That wasn't even close.
[48:38] Speaker 8: When they were trying to trade him, they were going
[48:40] Speaker 8: to trade him.
[48:41] Speaker 2: They were going to trade him. They were going to
[48:43] Speaker 2: trade him.
[48:43] Speaker 5: They were going to trade him in the beginning of
[48:44] Speaker 5: the year.
[48:45] Speaker 2: That wasn't it, y'all. That's right.
[48:46] Speaker 5: They were going to trade him in the beginning of
[48:47] Speaker 5: the year.
[48:47] Speaker 2: No, that wasn't the same year.
[48:48] Speaker 3: All right.
[48:48] Speaker 5: They were trying to get rid of AI that whole
[48:50] Speaker 5: year at the beginning.
[48:51] Speaker 1: So let's shift this back to the subject at hand.
[48:53] Speaker 3: Joel Embiid.
[48:55] Speaker 9: If you got half a face to get on camera,
[48:58] Speaker 9: even on live TV play with one eye and a
[49:01] Speaker 9: half face hanging.
[49:02] Speaker 3: Bell's positive. You playing like that? Are you even showing
[49:06] Speaker 3: up right here?
[49:07] Speaker 2: What does it got to do with it? Did AI
[49:10] Speaker 2: have a half face? How was AI planned?
[49:12] Speaker 3: Did he have a half face? Everything was broke on him.
[49:14] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, what does.
[49:15] Speaker 2: It have to do with him? Everything was broke on
[49:18] Speaker 2: this guy. Everything was broke on this nigga.
[49:22] Speaker 9: Everything was broke on A.I.
[49:24] Speaker 3: He playing with half a face. He was cracking jokes
[49:29] Speaker 3: on him.
[49:29] Speaker 9: There's one eye hanging there. And he's still out there
[49:32] Speaker 9: with one eye hanging. Just dragging that motherfucker and we just,
[49:37] Speaker 9: dragging the eye long.
[49:39] Speaker 3: And we still talking about it. That's crazy, bro.
[49:42] Speaker 1: Brother P, you bring up a point, but Kanye, I
[49:43] Speaker 1: want to go back to something you said. So now,
[49:45] Speaker 1: and B, doesn't play in the Olympics. We have mixed
[49:47] Speaker 1: feelings on this couch. I think some people thought, obviously,
[49:50] Speaker 1: he should just chill, rest up, get ready for the season.
[49:52] Speaker 1: Other talked about the importance of winning the gold medal.
[49:54] Speaker 1: But he doesn't play in that Olympics in the same
[49:56] Speaker 1: situation it goes on.
[49:57] Speaker 3: Does he have a little bit more leeway?
[49:58] Speaker 4: Let's do the math, right? Simple math in this situation.
[50:03] Speaker 4: They lost in May. The season was over in May, right?
[50:07] Speaker 4: So you had the rest of May, right? Hey, I
[50:10] Speaker 4: ain't got a gold medal. So the rest of May, right? June, July, August, September, October.
[50:19] Speaker 4: He has six.
[50:21] Speaker 2: Months, five and a half months.
[50:23] Speaker 3: To get right.
[50:24] Speaker 4: To get right. With no wear and tear of playing
[50:28] Speaker 4: any serious basketball. So the lead up to the Olympics,
[50:34] Speaker 4: he had to do something to be in some kind
[50:36] Speaker 4: of shape to get ready to play for that. That's
[50:39] Speaker 4: wear and tear on the limbs, knees that he has
[50:41] Speaker 4: a problem with. That was at the end of last season.
[50:44] Speaker 4: I'm assuming that's what he's missing time with now.
[50:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
[50:48] Speaker 4: He had five and a half months. That's a lot
[50:50] Speaker 4: of time to rehab and strengthen what you need to
[50:52] Speaker 4: get ready for the season. Know how I know?
[50:56] Speaker 3: Because I've done it.
[50:58] Speaker 4: Lost in May. I spent the summer getting right. I
[51:00] Speaker 4: needed to strengthen. I needed to do this. I didn't
[51:02] Speaker 4: wear and tear. I didn't go play and pick up basketball.
[51:04] Speaker 4: I didn't work out here. I did what I needed
[51:07] Speaker 4: to do to get ready for the next season because
[51:09] Speaker 4: that's who's paying me, and that's what was important. I'm
[51:11] Speaker 4: trying to win here. All that other shit during the
[51:13] Speaker 4: summer don't matter. Me being healthy for the next season,
[51:17] Speaker 4: what matters?
[51:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[51:19] Speaker 4: I think the Philadelphia 76ers, I'm going to stand on this.
[51:22] Speaker 4: They should have stepped in and be like, that's not,
[51:24] Speaker 4: I understand. You want to go, we get it. But
[51:27] Speaker 4: right now is not the time for that. This is
[51:30] Speaker 4: not the year or the summer for you to, for that.
[51:34] Speaker 4: It's just not. My question is this.
[51:38] Speaker 2: Did something happen after the Olympics that we don't know about?
[51:42] Speaker 2: He wasn't healthy, good warning to it, Gil. But he
[51:44] Speaker 2: was healthy enough to play against the Olympics.
[51:46] Speaker 4: But he was not.
[51:47] Speaker 3: Did he look, Gil.
[51:48] Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's light work.
[51:49] Speaker 4: Gil, but did he, Gil, you watch the games. Did
[51:52] Speaker 4: he look like Joel Embiid?
[51:55] Speaker 2: Let me just be honest with you, King. All I
[51:57] Speaker 2: seen was gold medal.
[51:58] Speaker 4: No, but that's not for real.
[52:00] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[52:02] Speaker 8: But it's easy to hide, too.
[52:04] Speaker 4: It's easy to.
[52:05] Speaker 2: And he looked bad while trying to hide. He looked...
[52:09] Speaker 2: I know. He wasn't dominant. He wasn't the Joel that started...
[52:12] Speaker 2: He wasn't that Joel Embiid that started the NBA season
[52:15] Speaker 2: last year. No.
[52:17] Speaker 4: He was nowhere near that is what I'm saying.
[52:19] Speaker 2: No, he wasn't.
[52:19] Speaker 1: Right?
[52:20] Speaker 2: I know, but.
[52:21] Speaker 3: But he wasn't there at the end of the season
[52:23] Speaker 3: like that.
[52:23] Speaker 2: He wasn't healthy.
[52:24] Speaker 3: That's my point.
[52:25] Speaker 9: So who's to say he's going to be healthy regardless?
[52:27] Speaker 4: You got five and a half months to rehab, Nick?
[52:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying. With no wear and tear.
[52:32] Speaker 9: But he probably tried something different. He probably rest all.
[52:36] Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is.
[52:37] Speaker 3: He probably tried something different.
[52:38] Speaker 2: This is somebody that came back from... You can't bend
[52:40] Speaker 2: your knee now. Yeah.
[52:42] Speaker 4: He can't bend his knee now because y'all didn't do
[52:44] Speaker 4: the proper rehab. I did the proper rehab.
[52:47] Speaker 2: I took time off.
[52:49] Speaker 3: I just got it because I'm old, man. I've been
[52:51] Speaker 3: playing too much trying to get fucked. My bad.
[52:53] Speaker 2: I'm MVPing my dog.
[52:54] Speaker 3: What I'm asking is this.
[52:55] Speaker 4: He lost from Olympics to a training camp, right? He
[53:08] Speaker 4: looked like he lost about, what, 25 pounds?
[53:09] Speaker 1: There are reports he lost 25 to 30 pounds.
[53:12] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, do you think he hurt himself
[53:15] Speaker 6: during losing his weight?
[53:17] Speaker 4: Could have been.
[53:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm saying, what was he doing to lose
[53:21] Speaker 2: the 25 pounds? He probably aggravated a twist on it.
[53:25] Speaker 4: That's what I'm asking. There's no way that how he finished...
[53:30] Speaker 4: the Olympics to now, he wouldn't be doing anything. So
[53:34] Speaker 4: it had to be after the Olympics where he was
[53:36] Speaker 4: trying to get ready for the season where he re-injured
[53:39] Speaker 4: the same knee.
[53:40] Speaker 3: Gil, you said you saw the sticks in the Bahamas, right?
[53:42] Speaker 2: He looked good.
[53:42] Speaker 3: They were doing their workouts in preparation.
[53:44] Speaker 2: I mean, I seen him at the pool.
[53:46] Speaker 3: He looked good at the pool.
[53:48] Speaker 2: And at the dice table.
[53:50] Speaker 1: How was his form rolling?
[53:52] Speaker 2: The form looked nice.
[53:52] Speaker 3: Okay, it looked nice, rolling dice.
[53:54] Speaker 2: Hit the eight, hit the eight. Okay, yeah. Okay, ready.
[53:58] Speaker 4: I'm going to bet with.
[54:01] Speaker 2: You. I hear you, yes.
[54:04] Speaker 4: Something could have happened. Yes, absolutely. But if you took
[54:10] Speaker 4: that same approach, you need to lose weight. After the season,
[54:15] Speaker 4: I need to get my weight down.
[54:16] Speaker 2: I need to....
[54:18] Speaker 4: Rehab, same thing, but I just, he didn't look good,
[54:22] Speaker 4: in my opinion, in the Olympics, and it could've been
[54:25] Speaker 4: that after, I need to rev it up to. Man,
[54:28] Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, he look good, man, he
[54:29] Speaker 4: won us a gold, brother.
[54:30] Speaker 3: Right? In the moment, who?
[54:33] Speaker 8: Nah, nah, gold, uh-oh.
[54:36] Speaker 2: He look good.
[54:37] Speaker 3: He look good.
[54:38] Speaker 4: He look good.
[54:39] Speaker 2: He look good.
[54:40] Speaker 3: You can't look like him when you got all them people.
[54:42] Speaker 2: No, I mean, at the end, when he had the
[54:43] Speaker 2: gold medal, he look good as fuck. What you talking about?
[54:47] Speaker 2: I'm looking at the gold, man. I don't see no limit. Yeah,
[54:50] Speaker 2: I ain't going to lie.
[54:51] Speaker 3: In the moment, though.
[54:52] Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell y'all, ain't no drooling, beat bashing.
[54:55] Speaker 6: We want the gold, and he helped us get past.
[54:58] Speaker 2: If he played for the Los Angeles Lakers, your ass
[55:00] Speaker 2: would feel a lot different.
[55:01] Speaker 1: He's not playing if he's... You would.
[55:02] Speaker 4: Feel a lot fucking different if he played for the
[55:04] Speaker 4: Los Angeles Lakers.
[55:06] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[55:06] Speaker 2: They'd be up there tripping.
[55:07] Speaker 4: If Manny LeBron had not been able to start, Anthony
[55:10] Speaker 4: Davis not been able to start the season right now,
[55:12] Speaker 4: you'd be able to be like a sad puppy.
[55:13] Speaker 2: They'd be tripping.
[55:14] Speaker 3: But all I.
[55:15] Speaker 2: Can judge him off when we needed him.
[55:18] Speaker 9: Put them in a blender.
[55:22] Speaker 3: Proud American.
[55:22] Speaker 1: In the moment, you pointed out that the Olympics might
[55:24] Speaker 1: be good for him just from a conditioning standpoint to
[55:26] Speaker 1: be around, playing, being active, playing against high level.
[55:28] Speaker 4: Listen, I was lying. I just needed him to be
[55:30] Speaker 4: on the team.
[55:32] Speaker 2: Do you really think I give a fuck about, you know,
[55:34] Speaker 2: was he healthy or not? Just Joel Embiid with us
[55:37] Speaker 2: was better than him playing with the Frenchies. Now imagine
[55:40] Speaker 2: if he was with the French team now.
[55:42] Speaker 3: We got a problem. Right? Fair, fair.
[55:45] Speaker 2: French team sit out.
[55:46] Speaker 3: French team sit out.
[55:47] Speaker 5: Why don't Joel Embiid just retire?
[55:50] Speaker 3: I mean, he can't play back-to-back.
[55:53] Speaker 5: I mean, we talk all this.
[55:54] Speaker 2: Why does people got to retire? We talk about Kawhi Leonard. No,
[55:57] Speaker 2: we didn't talk about him retiring.
[55:59] Speaker 5: They talk about Kawhi Leonard not being able to play.
[56:01] Speaker 5: Why are we not talking about him?
[56:03] Speaker 2: He can't play back-to-back.
[56:05] Speaker 6: We don't know what's going on with these brothers' knees
[56:07] Speaker 6: at this point in time, so.
[56:10] Speaker 2: Man, we can only judge when they get out there
[56:12] Speaker 2: and we can go from there.
[56:13] Speaker 5: Look like retirement.
[56:14] Speaker 1: So we asked if Chad should have been able to
[56:16] Speaker 1: play in the Olympics. 80% said no. 80% said he
[56:20] Speaker 1: shouldn't have? He shouldn't have played in the Olympics.
[56:22] Speaker 9: We're not winning without him being.
[56:24] Speaker 5: Everybody agrees with that.
[56:25] Speaker 3: We're not winning the Olympics without him being.
[56:27] Speaker 1: What the fuck are they thinking?
[56:29] Speaker 2: Yo, that's 80%. Y'all are some.
[56:31] Speaker 4: They must have been going for the mother ones.
[56:34] Speaker 2: All y'all living in the moment. Yeah, they must have
[56:37] Speaker 2: been going for the.
[56:39] Speaker 4: Because nobody talk about them anymore.
[56:41] Speaker 3: South Sudan.
[56:43] Speaker 2: There must be South Sudan fans. Ain't no damn way.
[56:47] Speaker 4: If the Philadelphia 76ers were the gayest men, ultimatum, dog.
[56:51] Speaker 4: I just think in them situations, man, you got to
[56:53] Speaker 4: step in. Playing the Olympics or we null and void
[56:57] Speaker 4: this contract, dog?
[56:58] Speaker 3: Gave him a three-year extension. He going to get a
[57:02] Speaker 3: contract after that.
[57:03] Speaker 2: That's fine. I just want to.
[57:06] Speaker 5: Know what's the choices.
[57:07] Speaker 2: I can tell you this. You talking about voiding.
[57:10] Speaker 6: You know, everybody be like, hell yeah, do something stupid.
[57:12] Speaker 2: Do it, do it.
[57:13] Speaker 3: Go ahead and do it.
[57:14] Speaker 2: Go to the stage, do something.
[57:16] Speaker 3: Dumb, right? Okay, cool. Go ahead and steal.
[57:18] Speaker 2: I mean, all these.
[57:20] Speaker 8: No, but what he's saying is, no, but what he's saying,
[57:23] Speaker 8: we're not going to have you.
[57:24] Speaker 2: Good morning, queen.
[57:24] Speaker 5: Do this, we're done.
[57:25] Speaker 3: Good morning, queen.
[57:27] Speaker 4: Grand rising.
[57:29] Speaker 1: You're laughing.
[57:29] Speaker 2: Everybody, you're done, though.
[57:31] Speaker 3: No, you're crazy as hell.
[57:32] Speaker 2: Because you're not getting that money. Balmer would have been
[57:34] Speaker 2: in that motherfucker like, grand rising. Okay.
[57:38] Speaker 3: Good morning, queen.
[57:40] Speaker 8: And that would have been a situation like Kawhi Leonard.
[57:43] Speaker 2: I go to score the first bucket.
[57:45] Speaker 1: Good job.
[57:50] Speaker 3: What's the score of the game, though, Gil?
[57:51] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like, what?
[57:52] Speaker 3: What's the score?
[57:53] Speaker 2: Tie game. Tie game, she just hit a three. Oh.
[57:56] Speaker 9: Yep.
[57:57] Speaker 5: I like that ultimatum.
[57:58] Speaker 2: You like that? She got five attempts off the bench.
[58:02] Speaker 3: Already.
[58:02] Speaker 8: Hell yeah, you make guys snap that need to get healthy.
[58:04] Speaker 3: If that's the ultimatum, I'm playing.
[58:06] Speaker 5: We're going to avoid this contract.
[58:08] Speaker 6: You're going to avoid my contract.
[58:12] Speaker 2: I just won the MVP. I let you walk. I
[58:14] Speaker 2: won the MVP the year before.
[58:15] Speaker 4: You're going to avoid my contract.
[58:19] Speaker 8: Because you went out there and now you're not available now?
[58:21] Speaker 2: Okay, hold on. Okay.
[58:23] Speaker 3: Okay.
[58:24] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I won the MVP the year before.
[58:26] Speaker 4: I just averaged 35 and 12. I was supposed to win.
[58:29] Speaker 1: It this year.
[58:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. And you're going to avoid my, you're.
[58:31] Speaker 4: Going to use that tactic on me.
[58:34] Speaker 2: On me.
[58:35] Speaker 3: Yes.
[58:35] Speaker 2: Yes.
[58:36] Speaker 3: Man.
[58:36] Speaker 4: I'm going to play in the Olympics and let me see.
[58:39] Speaker 2: You do it.
[58:39] Speaker 1: Yep.
[58:40] Speaker 3: Force your hand.
[58:42] Speaker 2: You ain't doing it.
[58:43] Speaker 3: You ain't avoiding my contract.
[58:45] Speaker 2: First of all, you're not even available now. First of all,
[58:47] Speaker 2: you're not even available.
[58:48] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, you're not avoiding my contract.
[58:51] Speaker 3: You're not available.
[58:52] Speaker 2: That is it. That's a dumb threat. That was a
[58:55] Speaker 2: dumb threat.
[58:56] Speaker 8: Gil, you're not available, and you're not available now, and
[58:58] Speaker 8: you won't be available next year or the next year after.
[59:00] Speaker 2: You're not available, never.
[59:02] Speaker 6: That's a dumb tactic there.
[59:04] Speaker 4: No, it's not. Because if you avoid the contract, you
[59:08] Speaker 4: get nothing from me, and I'm going to walk?
[59:10] Speaker 2: Now I can walk wherever I want to?
[59:13] Speaker 3: Yeah. Come on, man.
[59:14] Speaker 2: You're telling me I can go to Boston? I can
[59:17] Speaker 2: go to Milwaukee.
[59:17] Speaker 8: And you want to sit there with your legacy like
[59:19] Speaker 8: that and go play for Boston?
[59:21] Speaker 3: Come on, man. You gave it to me.
[59:22] Speaker 4: You did it.
[59:23] Speaker 2: So what do you think I'm going to do, Philly?
[59:26] Speaker 2: I'm going to go to your inn.
[59:27] Speaker 5: You're not going to do that.
[59:28] Speaker 2: Yes, I am.
[59:28] Speaker 4: No, you're not.
[59:29] Speaker 8: You're not going to go to Boston and put on
[59:30] Speaker 8: a Boston jersey with the player that you're trying to be.
[59:33] Speaker 2: Why not?
[59:33] Speaker 3: You're not. He ain't going to start. Who's going to
[59:35] Speaker 3: take it?
[59:36] Speaker 4: You're gonna start Lopez bring your ass off the bench
[59:39] Speaker 4: Lopez It's now it's me now it's me and Yannis
[59:43] Speaker 4: we're talking about it's not gonna work that right Why
[59:46] Speaker 4: would that work? He just say why wouldn't that work
[59:48] Speaker 4: nasty basketball?
[59:49] Speaker 3: First of all.
[59:51] Speaker 2: He not gonna go to Boston.
[59:51] Speaker 8: They've been whooping his ass all them years.
[59:53] Speaker 2: I'm saying don't you go play for me?
[59:55] Speaker 6: We're gonna beat y'all ass. This ain't about me versus me.
[1:00:00] Speaker 6: It's us versus you now.
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: So question for the couch Obviously, we got the reports
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: of Embiid having an altercation with the Sixers reporter.
[1:00:07] Speaker 4: That was no altercation.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll tell you what was being reported. How
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: long was suspended should Embiid expect to receive?
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: Zero.
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: Zero?
[1:00:18] Speaker 4: If the team suspended, that's some bullshit because y'all put
[1:00:21] Speaker 4: him in that situation.
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: Y'all are liable because y'all gave that man a media pass.
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: But do you expect Adam Silver of the league to
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: step in and say... If I'm the team.
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: I might want to suspend him due to jaw suspension
[1:00:37] Speaker 4: so the league don't step in.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: How about.
[1:00:39] Speaker 4: Because if the league step in, that's a real suspension.
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: I know when he's coming back.
[1:00:43] Speaker 6: So I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, you know,
[1:00:44] Speaker 6: Jordan B's supposed to be here today, but we're going
[1:00:47] Speaker 6: to suspend him for a game.
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: He's going to keep your money.
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: And then he's going to come back next game.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: Like, I get the control act.
[1:00:53] Speaker 5: If that's up in the air.
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: If you're the Sixers, how about you just suspend him
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: from back to back?
[1:00:58] Speaker 4: Can't keep that, brother.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: Remember what I'm saying?
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: It's Ken.
[1:01:03] Speaker 4: What you going to give him?
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: Cash?
[1:01:04] Speaker 4: You going to give him $ 600, 000? You going to bring
[1:01:06] Speaker 4: $ 600, 000 in that bitch's cash?
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: After taxes?
[1:01:09] Speaker 5: You think it's China?
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying, do you think Adam Silver is.
[1:01:14] Speaker 3: He ain't checking. He ain't really checking.
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: Not him. He doesn't work in payroll.
[1:01:18] Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, am I really going to piss
[1:01:20] Speaker 6: you off before the season and actually.
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: Fine you for it? Yeah.
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: How about they just suspend him?
[1:01:24] Speaker 2: I'm going to suspend him. We're going to send him
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: to a charity of your liking.
[1:01:27] Speaker 4: I ain't even giving you shit.
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: Let's just get this suspension over so you can play
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: when you're supposed to come back.
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: Sixers should suspend him from playing back-to-backs.
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean?
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: You're not playing no back-to-backs. I don't think I'm supposed
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: to suspend him.
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: I mean, it ain't a suspension.
[1:01:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it should be.
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: The reporter needed a little bit. He needed that. You
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: need to let people know.
[1:01:47] Speaker 9: You need to pop out and show them some time.
[1:01:49] Speaker 9: When you talking about my dead brother, you talking about
[1:01:51] Speaker 9: my son? That's like, even if your son, he was
[1:01:54] Speaker 9: at the park and the kid was just throwing sand
[1:01:56] Speaker 9: at your son, you would get mad and be like, man,
[1:01:58] Speaker 9: are you throwing sand at my son one more time
[1:02:00] Speaker 9: or throwing sand at your daddy?
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: Shit like that. You talking about my son?
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa. You one of those? Wait, Oh, y'all are
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: one of them? Hell yeah. So my son.
[1:02:08] Speaker 3: Wait, hold on.
[1:02:09] Speaker 4: So my son do something to your son.
[1:02:11] Speaker 3: So your son bully my son. I'm going to ask
[1:02:13] Speaker 3: you to control your son.
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you ask me.
[1:02:15] Speaker 4: I'm going to say something to you to get your child.
[1:02:18] Speaker 3: Yep. And I'm going to say something to you. What?
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: You better talk to him. You better talk to him.
[1:02:24] Speaker 3: And then I'm going to show your son what he doing.
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: Cool. You're not going to... I'm not going to do worse.
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: I'm not in... I'm not going to inherit an ass whooping.
[1:02:32] Speaker 4: Your kid throw sand in my son's face, I'm going
[1:02:36] Speaker 4: to put your kid face in the sand.
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: And while you're doing that, I'm going to be over here.
[1:02:41] Speaker 4: I'm going to have.
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: Sand burns on my forehead.
[1:02:43] Speaker 5: I'm going to be over there.
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: Wingworm.
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: That's it.
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: Let me put a quick break to this.
[1:02:50] Speaker 3: Quick break to this.
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: He's a product of you.
[1:02:54] Speaker 4: My son behavior is not going to inherit me an
[1:02:57] Speaker 4: ass with a father that I probably can't whoop. But
[1:02:59] Speaker 4: he's a product of you, though.
[1:03:00] Speaker 6: Now, if this was Tom, if this was Tom and
[1:03:04] Speaker 6: he tried that shit, of course. But you're talking about Ken,
[1:03:07] Speaker 6: and you're talking about, hey, man, check your son.
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: Reporters need to know they can't do anything. I got
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: a call. Quick timeout.
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: We got a legend in the building. Special guest making
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: his first visit to the arena. Hip-hop legend who joined
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: forces with the late, great Pimp C to give us UGK.
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: He's also had a successful career as a solo artist
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: with five studio albums, several mixtapes, features on some of
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: the most memorable tracks of all time.
[1:03:31] Speaker 3: What's going on, brother?
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: And now he's doing his thing with the iconic Trillburgers.
[1:03:37] Speaker 3: Mr.
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: Trill OG himself, Bun B.
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: Welcome to Gil's arena.
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: No problem, man. Probably the shortest nigga to be in here.
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: Gotta be the shortest cat to be in here.
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: But the most musically gifted. So unnecessary.
[1:03:53] Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up, man. You know, we're all
[1:03:57] Speaker 1: excited to try Trill Burgers at some point. We heard
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: y'all about to be out here.
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: They should have told me. I would have brought y'all something.
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: They would have been cold. They would have been cold
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: once I got here. We got a microwave.
[1:04:06] Speaker 3: We got a microwave. We got a microwave. I wouldn't
[1:04:08] Speaker 3: try that to me.
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: No, but we're trying to expand this brand, but we're
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: being very careful about scale. You know what I'm saying?
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: We don't want to move too far too fast. We
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: got opportunities everywhere, but we got to be careful about
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: which ones we take. So we're trying to pick and
[1:04:21] Speaker 2: choose carefully because we don't want to just throw everything everywhere,
[1:04:24] Speaker 2: dilute the brand, and not be able to control the
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: consistency or the quality of the product. So I'm going
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: to take my time.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:04:30] Speaker 4: It's my smart business, man.
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, man. I ain't coming this far for nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: Well, we know you're a Hoops fan. Oh, yeah. You're
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: a Rockets guy, but... Thank you.
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: We were talking about this whole Joel Embiid situation. I'm
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: not sure if you're familiar with it.
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: Him attacking or having an altercation with a Sixers reporter
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: over some comments made, but got to know, do you
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: ever have situations like that in hip-hop where a journalist
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: oversteps their bounds, might say something that's reckless or out
[1:04:56] Speaker 1: of pocket, and you got to check.
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: Them for it?
[1:04:57] Speaker 2: Every now and then, they few and far between. I
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: don't necessarily have these problems, but... Yeah, no, some cats
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: can get froggy and jump out there sometimes, but they
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: will pick who they want to do those things with, right?
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: Because you got some people that, if they're in a
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: situation where they got a, let's say they got a case, right?
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: They got, you know, they're on paper right now. They
[1:05:19] Speaker 2: can't really do nothing anyway. That's the perfect time for
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: a journalist to shoot a shot that he normally wouldn't
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: shoot because, you know, that person can't really retaliate in
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: that position. But hip-hop is a different space, right? Most
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: of these dudes are street dudes or street affiliated. So
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: they already know, one, ain't no media training. So it's
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: not like they really even know how to interact with
[1:05:41] Speaker 2: the media anyway. So they just a man or a
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: woman talking to another person. You get out of line
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: with some of these people. Everybody don't play the same way.
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all ran into that situation where everybody don't
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: play the same way. And people names, man, that's how
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: they take care of their family, their career and all that.
[1:05:59] Speaker 2: You play with somebody's reputation. thank you everybody don't play
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: like that everybody's not finna sit here and go back
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: and forth with you um that being said if that's
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: something you want to do you can't be doing it
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: on camera in front of everybody you know you catch
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: it where you catch it you know y'all know boys
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: be in that parking lot catch you at the bus
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: or something you know not when in a locker room
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: where you know a room full of people and that's
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: another thing if somebody do something to you in my
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: opinion in a room full of cameras and everything, then
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: they really not trying to go all the way there
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: most of the time. But it looked like Joe just
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: been dealing with this whole idea of how they talking
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: to him, how they handling him. The press been really
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: getting at him about, like, you just don't want to play.
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: That's the problem. You just don't want to play. And
[1:06:42] Speaker 2: you hear that too many times at some point. A
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: man might snap. I'm trying to give him an out here.
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: It's the same thing.
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: You've been.
[1:06:53] Speaker 4: You want to play, you're not healthy, you're hearing it,
[1:06:55] Speaker 4: you're hearing it, you're hearing it. And it's the problem
[1:06:59] Speaker 4: of today. It's just a lot of guys don't know
[1:07:04] Speaker 4: how to log out, right? They don't know how to
[1:07:10] Speaker 4: log out of Twitter. They don't know how to log X.
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: It's hard. It's Twitter, K. It's hard.
[1:07:14] Speaker 4: They don't know how not to watch Stephen A. They
[1:07:17] Speaker 4: don't know us, right?
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: They don't know how. But I mean, I get it.
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: I used to have a dude that used to talk
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: real crazy, but he talked crazy about everybody. So it
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: wasn't just me, but this was somebody that never went nowhere.
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: Like this was in the earliest days of the internet.
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: So this was a dude just really at his mama
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: house on the couch, typing, talking crazy. You getting all
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: worked up about somebody you probably not going to even
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: see or run into.
[1:07:41] Speaker 3: That's, that's nothing.
[1:07:42] Speaker 2: But let me ask y'all this. Like, Like, is this reporter,
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: this particular person in Joel's case, is this somebody that
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: talk greasy about him all the time, or is this
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: just because the season is starting off the way it is? Because, like,
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: for example, Coach Prime, right? Coach Prime had the dude,
[1:08:00] Speaker 2: the reporter, that just every week, every week had something
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: bad to say about him, something bad to say about
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: the team, something bad to say about his kids, every
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: week just perpetually talking down on this man. Is that
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: the situation with Joel, with this particular reporter?
[1:08:14] Speaker 4: I believe, so for him to know him by name,
[1:08:16] Speaker 4: I don't think it's an isolated incident. Because somebody can
[1:08:20] Speaker 4: write something once, unless you really concentrate on, like, right
[1:08:23] Speaker 4: before you go out, what's the motherfucking name again?
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: Like, okay, I got it then.
[1:08:27] Speaker 4: Or you ask, what's the dude's name that wrote it again?
[1:08:30] Speaker 4: You say Kevin. But for him to know him by name,
[1:08:33] Speaker 4: I think it's not a, I believe it's not an
[1:08:35] Speaker 4: isolated incident.
[1:08:36] Speaker 2: And the dude probably just finds the guy in front
[1:08:38] Speaker 2: of him.
[1:08:38] Speaker 4: He's a local guy.
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: And he has a reputation amongst Philly fans of kind
[1:08:42] Speaker 1: of being controversial like this.
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: So that's his angle to get, for him to get
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: read and get clicks. So Bob, before you came in, right?
[1:08:50] Speaker 4: So Joel addressed the situation on Friday during media day
[1:08:54] Speaker 4: at practice. They played Saturday. The team could have stepped in.
[1:09:00] Speaker 4: and not given the guy a media pass for the
[1:09:02] Speaker 4: game on Saturday. For this incident could have never been
[1:09:06] Speaker 4: a thing.
[1:09:07] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: They could have done it. They've done it before. They
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: took media passes before. That's what I was going to say.
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: Me and Michael Rappaport had a radio show. He showed
[1:09:16] Speaker 4: up in Cleveland when we was doing a radio show
[1:09:18] Speaker 4: with a broom, and they took his media credentials on site.
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: He wanted to be an engineer.
[1:09:25] Speaker 4: If teams want to do it, they can do it.
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: Dolan takes them.
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: Right, all the time.
[1:09:29] Speaker 4: You said something about him, Dolan.
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: Dolan, yeah.
[1:09:32] Speaker 4: So they could have done it, right? So this incident
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: could have never happened. because it was already a thing.
[1:09:38] Speaker 4: So for him to call him out by name, Yeah,
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: you should have.
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: The team should have.
[1:09:42] Speaker 2: So they should have known ahead of time. The PR
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: department should have.
[1:09:44] Speaker 4: This dude was going to, this dude was going to probably.
[1:09:46] Speaker 4: But Joel looking for him though. But he's looking for
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: him at the game though. This is where, I'm going
[1:09:50] Speaker 4: to speak on me, right? If you had something, I'm
[1:09:53] Speaker 4: going to look for you the next game. And I'm
[1:09:54] Speaker 4: not playing.
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: You already know, boy.
[1:09:56] Speaker 4: And I, listen, and I'm not playing either. So I
[1:09:59] Speaker 4: got the energy. It ain't like I got this game
[1:10:01] Speaker 4: to go worry about to go play. I might forget
[1:10:03] Speaker 4: about you if the game went a certain way. I
[1:10:05] Speaker 4: might forget about you by the end of the game
[1:10:06] Speaker 4: if I was playing. I'm not playing.
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: So now he got the whole game to sit over
[1:10:11] Speaker 2: there and like... Stupid. And he knows what the dude
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: looks like. Yeah, he knows what he looks like. He
[1:10:15] Speaker 2: sent him on to me, though. That motherfucker here tonight.
[1:10:17] Speaker 4: Yep. Can't wait till this game over.
[1:10:19] Speaker 10: Right.
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: And that's exactly how it went. Because we all didn't...
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: But that's a life period, though.
[1:10:25] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: Like, you go somewhere, somebody you've been looking for in there,
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you. I'll be right at
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: the exit, though.
[1:10:31] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:10:32] Speaker 2: That's the problem when you're talking about local media. It's
[1:10:35] Speaker 2: after practice, right?
[1:10:37] Speaker 6: So this is a guy that's been there the whole time.
[1:10:39] Speaker 6: So usually, I'm pretty sure he's already written them off.
[1:10:43] Speaker 6: So Joel probably don't even talk to this dude, right?
[1:10:45] Speaker 6: So you have your favorites, you have the people you
[1:10:47] Speaker 6: stay away.
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: From, right?
[1:10:48] Speaker 4: I'm not giving you no quotes.
[1:10:50] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: So.
[1:10:52] Speaker 4: Most of the time, we don't hear the local news.
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: In the national conversation.
[1:10:57] Speaker 6: So unless this was a tweet and it got out
[1:10:59] Speaker 6: like that, that's the only reason we know. Other than that,
[1:11:02] Speaker 6: you don't hear the local reports from what's going on
[1:11:05] Speaker 6: in Phoenix or Lakers and stuff like that. So, you know,
[1:11:09] Speaker 6: whatever he's written, unless you want to go back and
[1:11:11] Speaker 6: go and look at those articles and see what he's
[1:11:14] Speaker 6: wrote about, we.
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: Never hear it.
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: But it still seemed like, you know, clout more than anything.
[1:11:18] Speaker 6: No, no, no.
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: Like going for clout. Because you got to see somebody big, right?
[1:11:23] Speaker 2: Like this major player in the game basically the face
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: of basketball in this city, bit.
[1:11:29] Speaker 3: Draw bit.
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. Draw bit.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: He bit. Now I got him. Now they're going to
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: have to pull me into the national conversation. Now people
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: got to interview him on all these different other channels, whatever.
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: Put it like this.
[1:11:42] Speaker 6: For the last five, six years, this was probably his
[1:11:44] Speaker 6: biggest moment that he's been waiting for. Yeah, because my
[1:11:49] Speaker 6: information don't get to Stephen A.
[1:11:51] Speaker 4: Smith.
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: It don't get there. Right. I'm really local. But now
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: he is.
[1:11:57] Speaker 6: Now imagine the superstar don't even talk to me. So
[1:12:00] Speaker 6: I'm sitting there writing articles I'm never going to write
[1:12:02] Speaker 6: in his favor.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: So I'm just going to try to egg him on
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: and boom. He finally responded.
[1:12:06] Speaker 3: Huh? Do they not? No, what I'm saying is, when
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: do they ever talk about basketball? I need your attention.
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody's drawing these lines in the media space.
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: There's no checks and balances that say he died. Don't
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: go over there and talk about people's kids.
[1:12:32] Speaker 10: No.
[1:12:33] Speaker 4: Like, not anymore.
[1:12:34] Speaker 3: It's the wild, wild world. There's never been.
[1:12:35] Speaker 9: It's just you and your integrity.
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: But when does it happen?
[1:12:41] Speaker 4: If you're not saying condolences, you don't mention it.
[1:12:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:12:44] Speaker 4: You don't mention it.
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: But that's us. Because we're the ones that they're going
[1:12:47] Speaker 2: to do that to. Right. Right?
[1:12:48] Speaker 6: If you really notice, most of the time, they don't
[1:12:51] Speaker 6: talk about the basketball itself. Everything is always personal. you know,
[1:12:56] Speaker 6: my baby mama, I got this one pregnant, we both
[1:12:59] Speaker 6: sharing the same girl.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: That's what they talk about. I mean, we get that.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: We got bloggers and podcasters that get in people's personal business.
[1:13:07] Speaker 2: But again, these people are not in the mix with people.
[1:13:10] Speaker 2: You probably will not have to answer face-to-face for the
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: things you say about most people. But they blatant. You
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? They blatant and they willing to
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: really just jump out there and crash out behind this
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: clout chasing that they want to do. So, I don't know,
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: but y'all reporters, they got to be in the room. Like,
[1:13:28] Speaker 2: they in the locker room, bro. That's a long way
[1:13:31] Speaker 2: to the parking lot. That's all I'm saying. You're playing
[1:13:34] Speaker 2: with athletes. These are fine-tuned machines, bro. You're not going
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: to be faster. You're not going to be stronger. You're
[1:13:40] Speaker 2: poking the bear, bro. You're poking the bear. But they
[1:13:42] Speaker 2: know we ain't going to get physical. We can't.
[1:13:46] Speaker 3: We can't.
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: Like, no matter what you say, you can say whatever
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: you want.
[1:13:49] Speaker 3: I can't.
[1:13:51] Speaker 2: Well, he's different, but for the most part. He's willing
[1:13:55] Speaker 2: to lose $.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: 300, 000, $ 400, 000.
[1:13:55] Speaker 2: How can y'all get to say this with K-Ward?
[1:13:58] Speaker 4: Hey, man, we'll deal with it on Monday, man. We'll
[1:14:04] Speaker 4: deal with it. Court open Monday morning? Hey, we'll deal
[1:14:08] Speaker 4: with it on Monday, man. You do the wrong, say
[1:14:10] Speaker 4: the wrong. It's going to cost me.
[1:14:12] Speaker 2: About $ 250, 000. I've never been to say it. It's going
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: to cost me about $ 250, 000. If you want to spend
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: the money, I'll think about it.
[1:14:18] Speaker 4: Is it worth $ 250, 000 now? You know, sometimes, like, especially today,
[1:14:23] Speaker 4: y'all ain't.
[1:14:24] Speaker 2: $ 250, 000 no more. Well, again, he playing, we talking about somebody.
[1:14:28] Speaker 2: It was $ 250, 000 for us. It's half a bill now.
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: That's one game. Ain't no price when people playing with
[1:14:33] Speaker 2: your kids. Yeah, that's right. We absolutely finna crash out
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: all the way.
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: It is.
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: All the way.
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: It's just nowhere around. It is until you see that.
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: All the way. You hit the man too.
[1:14:43] Speaker 6: Hard, and they're talking about nine games, and that nine games,
[1:14:46] Speaker 6: you make a million, and you're talking about $ 9 million?
[1:14:49] Speaker 2: You're going to be looking at that. You're going to
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: start rereading it. He said it like this. Maybe I
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: took that wrong. If I was a reporter, I wouldn't
[1:14:58] Speaker 2: even play like that because I know how crazy the
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: fans get. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And the
[1:15:02] Speaker 2: fans know an athlete can't do it. So I'm going
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: to bust you in the mouth because I know Joel can't.
[1:15:10] Speaker 6: That's where the brothers in the family, that's where the
[1:15:12] Speaker 6: Yoke's brothers come in at.
[1:15:13] Speaker 3: Got to find me first. Got to find me. Who
[1:15:15] Speaker 3: said that can't happen? Who? They can do that too.
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:15:18] Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: This stuff happens, bro.
[1:15:21] Speaker 4: These things happen. But you do it to the right athlete.
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: Do it to the right athlete. There's a couple in there.
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: That will take it all the way there with you.
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: But they already know who not to do it with.
[1:15:32] Speaker 2: They will take it all the way there with.
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: You.
[1:15:37] Speaker 2: Reggie Evans. You look at him just like, yeah, I'm
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: going to just.
[1:15:42] Speaker 4: The superstar, they're going to poke at the superstar every time.
[1:15:44] Speaker 1: Of course.
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: Superstar gets the most attention. If it's a civil suit,
[1:15:48] Speaker 2: you got potential to get the most money. You're going
[1:15:52] Speaker 2: the highest up the tree as you can. I get it.
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: They got him in, yeah.
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: Oh, no, I had it happen before. A man, a
[1:15:59] Speaker 4: dude called. Man, we was out one day in Denver,
[1:16:02] Speaker 4: and we got into it with some dudes, man, and
[1:16:04] Speaker 4: a couple of my partners took care of the situation,
[1:16:07] Speaker 4: but there was a few teammates that were with us.
[1:16:09] Speaker 4: The cop heard the dude on the phone, like, who
[1:16:11] Speaker 4: named you? I said, who named you? He heard the
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: dude in the background. He said, say Kenyon, say Kenyon. Like, dude,
[1:16:17] Speaker 4: I was in the car watching y'all get y'all ass whooped.
[1:16:20] Speaker 4: I went and sat in the car and was watching
[1:16:23] Speaker 4: this shit happen.
[1:16:24] Speaker 2: Alibi. Right?
[1:16:26] Speaker 4: They were like, I was in there wearing like a
[1:16:27] Speaker 4: tennis mask.
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: Damn, damn. Dude, shit. Oh, hey.
[1:16:31] Speaker 6: You got to pull the biggest name because you're going
[1:16:34] Speaker 6: to pay to keep your name out of it.
[1:16:35] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:16:35] Speaker 2: And that's what it is. You're going to pay to
[1:16:37] Speaker 2: keep the name out of it.
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:16:38] Speaker 2: And I know the reporter. You can tell me sorry
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: all you want. I'm suing. Yeah. Or y'all can give
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: me a.
[1:16:47] Speaker 2: A permanent job.
[1:16:49] Speaker 3: Up a level.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: Front office.
[1:16:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, front office.
[1:16:53] Speaker 2: And that's usually. Corner office. That's usually how it happens.
[1:16:58] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:16:59] Speaker 2: That's usually how you scale, right? You have, I got
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: this problem. I can sue Joel Embiid.
[1:17:04] Speaker 4: I'm going to put him through the wringer all year long.
[1:17:07] Speaker 2: We're going to be going back and forth to court.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: Or you can just.
[1:17:10] Speaker 3: They're not going to bring him in.
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: Just get me up top.
[1:17:13] Speaker 9: Just get me up top I don't need.
[1:17:16] Speaker 4: To go down there no more I don't even want
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: to write no more I don't want.
[1:17:20] Speaker 2: To write at that point somebody gonna start talking trade
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: you physically touched me sir absolutely you physically put your
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: hand on me and I'm physically abused huh Now it's
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: mental and physical. I'm mental and physical. Now I can't
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: sleep at night. I can't write no more articles. I
[1:17:38] Speaker 2: can't go to work. I can't even write anymore. Now
[1:17:43] Speaker 2: I need medicine. I went to the doctor.
[1:17:44] Speaker 4: The doctor said I have PTSD now from this situation.
[1:17:47] Speaker 2: Don't even know how to spell them, B.
[1:17:49] Speaker 4: Deaf threats to my family.
[1:17:52] Speaker 3: Everything.
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: Now family matters. Now family matters after you put somebody's
[1:17:59] Speaker 2: family name in your mouth. Now family matters.
[1:18:02] Speaker 3: Go on with that. So we got the Trill OG
[1:18:04] Speaker 3: in the building.
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: Let's shift this over to the music side real quick.
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: So Music World lost an icon with the news of
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: Quincy Jones passing this weekend. Jones was an award-winning producer, songwriter, composer,
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: and arranger. Won 28 Grammys during his 70-year career in
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: the music game. So I want to ask you, how
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: influential has Quincy Jones been in music and entertainment?
[1:18:22] Speaker 3: And in your opinion, what's his legacy?
[1:18:23] Speaker 2: I mean, we just don't even get this far in
[1:18:25] Speaker 2: music as a culture without somebody like Quincy Jones because
[1:18:29] Speaker 2: Quincy Jones is when you talk about a producer, this
[1:18:31] Speaker 2: is a real producer. This is not a person. In
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: our generation, you hear about people that make beats, right?
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: And hell, I could make a beat if you give
[1:18:38] Speaker 2: me enough equipment and enough time. Y'all could make a beat.
[1:18:40] Speaker 2: Ain't nobody going to want to listen to it and
[1:18:42] Speaker 2: jam it, but it's possible. But a producer is not
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: somebody that's like, you go to him and be like,
[1:18:48] Speaker 2: I want to do some music with you. and Quincy
[1:18:50] Speaker 2: Jones like yeah come on I got some stuff already
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: done no a guy like Quincy Jones looks at you
[1:18:55] Speaker 2: talks to you right learns about your background make sure
[1:18:58] Speaker 2: you got the proper skill set not just for the
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: music but for the media like we talked about they
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: make sure that we got time to nurture and find
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: the right sound for you and make music that is
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: perfect for you. Not a song that somebody else didn't want.
[1:19:12] Speaker 2: You know, we're going to write songs and produce music
[1:19:15] Speaker 2: that plays to your strengths. You know, you can sing
[1:19:18] Speaker 2: a ballad better. We're going to bring in the orchestras
[1:19:20] Speaker 2: and all of this stuff. But if you look at
[1:19:23] Speaker 2: this generation, like the mentorship of a Quincy Jones, like
[1:19:27] Speaker 2: always reached out to the young generation. I remember seeing
[1:19:30] Speaker 2: him in a Wu-Tang video one time. I'm like, most
[1:19:33] Speaker 2: of these people would never stand next to people like that,
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? But he wanted to see
[1:19:38] Speaker 2: what the next generation was doing. He encouraged us to
[1:19:41] Speaker 2: not just be artists, but also businessmen, understand publishing, understand royalties, understand,
[1:19:47] Speaker 2: you know, how to make sure that you can recoup
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: properly to make money off of your art. Like, that
[1:19:52] Speaker 2: was the thing about Quincy. It went beyond the music.
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: And to understand your place in this world as a
[1:19:58] Speaker 2: black man or a black woman. That was very important because...
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: They were making music fresh out of Jim Crow right
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: into the time where we were dealing with literally in
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: the middle of the civil rights movement. And they made
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: sure that, you know, they had to travel all around
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: the country, all around the world as black people. Couldn't
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: stay in certain hotels, couldn't get off, you know, couldn't
[1:20:17] Speaker 2: go in certain restaurants and all this stuff. So just
[1:20:20] Speaker 2: that idea of the sense of history that he came
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: into the game with and making young people know and understand, hey, look,
[1:20:26] Speaker 2: you're standing on the shoulders of greatness. A lot of
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: people sacrifice for you to be able to do this.
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: And when certain things happen, you have to speak up
[1:20:32] Speaker 2: for the culture, you have to speak up for your community,
[1:20:35] Speaker 2: you have to speak up for your people. All of
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: these things came from a person like Quincy Jones, man.
[1:20:39] Speaker 2: And not just black musicians, but all musicians have benefited
[1:20:43] Speaker 2: from the things that Quincy Jones has brought to the industry.
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: This is a major loss for entertainment, period, across the board.
[1:20:51] Speaker 2: He made, you know, he made pop-back records, he made
[1:20:54] Speaker 2: R & B music, he did rap music, you know
[1:20:56] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Quincy Jones touched everybody and everything, and
[1:21:00] Speaker 2: his legacy cannot be denied in this world, not just
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: in the music industry, in the world.
[1:21:06] Speaker 5: I got a question.
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: Go for it.
[1:21:10] Speaker 5: What made you want to get into the restaurant business?
[1:21:12] Speaker 2: I had had a food blog for about eight years,
[1:21:15] Speaker 2: and me and my partner Pete had been really trying
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: to figure out, like, we wanted to start a business.
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: We wanted to get in the food industry, but wanting
[1:21:24] Speaker 2: to do something and actually doing it is two different things.
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: We had all the passion for it, But we didn't
[1:21:31] Speaker 2: necessarily have the connecting points. So we were steadily trying
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: to find it. He went in the food industry first.
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: He bottled his grandmother's pasta sauce. And a good friend
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: of mine that I knew from the clothing industry, Andy Wynn,
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: had moved into food and gotten real successful in food
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: and wanted to start a brand, but wanted to start
[1:21:49] Speaker 2: it in Texas. So he was talking to another good
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: friend of mine, Nick Skirtfield, who was one of the
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: podcasters and part of the media team for the Texans.
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: for many years. So we all sat down together. He
[1:22:00] Speaker 2: came to me with the idea. I said, let me
[1:22:03] Speaker 2: try the burger. We set up a meeting to try
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: the burger. It was far and away the best burger
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: I'd ever had. But they was like, this is just
[1:22:09] Speaker 2: a prototype. We still working on it. They came back.
[1:22:13] Speaker 2: And when I tried the burger again, I was like,
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: this is some of the best food I ever had
[1:22:17] Speaker 2: in my life. But I wonder if this is just
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: good to me. So we set up a pop-up. People
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: came out because of who I am. People got love
[1:22:25] Speaker 2: for me from the music industry and the things I
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: do in the community. So they came out and supported me.
[1:22:29] Speaker 2: They didn't know if the food was going to be good,
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: but they came out. And I'm sitting there the whole time,
[1:22:33] Speaker 2: and it seemed like everybody liked the burger like I
[1:22:35] Speaker 2: liked it. So for me, coming from the music industry,
[1:22:39] Speaker 2: I looked at the burger as if it was like
[1:22:42] Speaker 2: a new album. So I'm going to take this. I'm
[1:22:44] Speaker 2: going to take it on the road. So we went
[1:22:46] Speaker 2: to Coachella. We went to Rolling Loud. We went to
[1:22:49] Speaker 2: Rock the Bells. We went to Something in the Water.
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: We went to all these different music festivals made in America.
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: And we had to pay the entry fee. You got
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: to pay to set up, get permits, fly staff out there.
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: We had no real money like that. You know, so
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: all we wanted to do was break even. What about
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: making money? It was about not losing money. But but
[1:23:08] Speaker 2: we could get residual benefits if certain people eat the
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: burger on camera and say they like it. So that
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: became the business model. And I could do this because
[1:23:17] Speaker 2: I got relationships with people. So I'm not just going
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: to a festival and begging people. to try my food
[1:23:22] Speaker 2: I'm asking friends to give me a chance I remember
[1:23:25] Speaker 2: we brought it to Coachella the second time and uh
[1:23:29] Speaker 2: Toby was there and uh there was some Samoa artists
[1:23:33] Speaker 2: eating it and the other artists looked at Toby said
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: man this burger is good as hell Toby was like
[1:23:37] Speaker 2: man It is. I remember the first time he asked
[1:23:40] Speaker 2: me to eat it, I was like, damn, I hope
[1:23:41] Speaker 2: I ain't got to lie for the OG on camera.
[1:23:44] Speaker 3: But he was prepared to.
[1:23:46] Speaker 2: He was going to try to make it look like mine.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: I said, bro, I'm glad you didn't lie, because, bro,
[1:23:51] Speaker 2: that would have looked bad on you if my food
[1:23:53] Speaker 2: wasn't good.
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:23:55] Speaker 2: But we took it around, and then we got a
[1:23:58] Speaker 2: call from Good Morning America to compete in the Best
[1:24:01] Speaker 2: Burger in America competition. So we won in Houston, and
[1:24:04] Speaker 2: then we went to Times Square and won the Nationals. competition.
[1:24:08] Speaker 2: And so we had the reputation of being the number
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: one burger. Thank you. The number one burger in America.
[1:24:13] Speaker 2: So like now we got to live up to it.
[1:24:15] Speaker 2: But like I said, you know, I looked at it
[1:24:17] Speaker 2: as a music industry. So now we just want best
[1:24:19] Speaker 2: new artists. So now instead of us having to spend
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: a bunch of money, people are calling asking us to
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: come to the festival. Hey, man, can you bring the
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: food down here? Don't worry about no commission fee or
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: no equipment. We'll take care of that. But we want
[1:24:33] Speaker 2: to we want to say we got your burger at
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: the festival. So now We took something that's typically an afterthought.
[1:24:40] Speaker 2: A cheeseburger is not something that is a priority in
[1:24:42] Speaker 2: nobody's life. People eat a cheeseburger. If the kids is
[1:24:45] Speaker 2: hungry and they're getting on your nerves or you got
[1:24:48] Speaker 2: 30 minutes, you got to get something quick or you've
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: been out drinking and partying all night, you got to
[1:24:52] Speaker 2: put something on your stomach. That's when you think of
[1:24:54] Speaker 2: a cheeseburger. But now I got the whole world talking
[1:24:56] Speaker 2: about a burger. My burger come to a golf tournament
[1:24:59] Speaker 2: or a music festival or sporting event. It's the point
[1:25:02] Speaker 2: of conversation. It's a priority in the room. A hamburger
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: has never been a priority in the room with people
[1:25:08] Speaker 2: over five years old.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
[1:25:13] Speaker 2: So we got a great product. It's very easy to
[1:25:16] Speaker 2: introduce it to people because almost everybody eats hamburgers. Hamburger
[1:25:20] Speaker 2: is in the top five most consumed food in the world.
[1:25:24] Speaker 2: You know, chicken wings, chicken tenders, then burgers, then pizzas
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: and the heavy. So asking somebody to try a burger
[1:25:30] Speaker 2: is not a hard thing to do. You know what
[1:25:32] Speaker 2: I'm saying? You can convince somebody to take a bite
[1:25:34] Speaker 2: out of a burger. But most people have a very...
[1:25:37] Speaker 2: Low ceiling as to what a burger is. So every
[1:25:41] Speaker 2: time we brought the burger to people, they underestimated how
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: good of a burger it could be because most burgers
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: just burger. But then you eat this burger and you realize.
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: Every burger ain't a burger.
[1:25:54] Speaker 3: In-N-Out or Trill?
[1:25:55] Speaker 2: It's not even a question.
[1:25:58] Speaker 3: It's not even a question.
[1:25:59] Speaker 2: But it's not even a question because they don't care
[1:26:02] Speaker 2: about burgers in the way that we care about burgers.
[1:26:04] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Their reputation is solid, so
[1:26:07] Speaker 2: they just about reproduction.
[1:26:08] Speaker 4: So I'm finna give you, so you from the great state.
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: I'm saying we know that, we know that.
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: That's- Long-star state, greatest state.
[1:26:15] Speaker 4: We are above and beyond with this food thing, bruh. Listen, bruh, hey, man.
[1:26:20] Speaker 3: All day.
[1:26:21] Speaker 4: So you being from Texas, it was never going to
[1:26:23] Speaker 4: be a question how good it was, bruh. I'm just,
[1:26:25] Speaker 4: me being biased. Well, my reputation is not worth- Biased
[1:26:28] Speaker 4: Texan about food, barbecue overall, right? If I tell you
[1:26:32] Speaker 4: something tasteful and it tastes good, And if I tell
[1:26:35] Speaker 4: you a duck can pull a truck, you better hook
[1:26:38] Speaker 4: it up because I am not going to BS you.
[1:26:39] Speaker 4: They've had my fuel. They've had my barbecue. You've had
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: my barbecue.
[1:26:42] Speaker 2: You've had my barbecue.
[1:26:43] Speaker 3: I've had your barbecue.
[1:26:43] Speaker 2: Your reputation is not worth saying you got good food
[1:26:45] Speaker 2: in Texas and knowing you ain't got good food. It's
[1:26:49] Speaker 2: not worth it. And for me, it's not worth it.
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: For me, I built up 30-plus years of trust with
[1:26:53] Speaker 2: people with music and all these other things I've done
[1:26:55] Speaker 2: in the community. I'm not finna throw all that away
[1:26:57] Speaker 2: to try to get some burger money. It's not even
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: that serious. We doing okay over here. You know what
[1:27:02] Speaker 2: I'm saying? But the burger is special. It's different. It's
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: a game changer. Enough to the point where I put
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: my name on it and my face on it. You
[1:27:10] Speaker 2: can't even separate me from the burger at this point.
[1:27:12] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:27:13] Speaker 2: I could have taken a licensing deal. Y'all understand. I
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: could have taken a licensing deal, gave me some money,
[1:27:17] Speaker 2: showed up once a month, took some pictures, and gone
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: about my business. But I was offered that or a
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: piece of the company. But if I was going to
[1:27:24] Speaker 2: take a piece of the company, I had to go
[1:27:26] Speaker 2: all in. I had to sacrifice money. I had to
[1:27:28] Speaker 2: sacrifice time. I remember trying to convince my wife. I
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: was like, man, I got the best burger in the world.
[1:27:33] Speaker 2: I just had it. I'm telling you. She's like, what's
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: on it? I'm like, yeah, it's meat, cheese, and onions,
[1:27:38] Speaker 2: and pickles. She's like, you don't even like onions and pickles.
[1:27:41] Speaker 2: I said, it don't matter. This burger is good with
[1:27:43] Speaker 2: onions and pickles. She was like, where's the lettuce?
[1:27:46] Speaker 3: Where's the tomatoes?
[1:27:47] Speaker 2: I was like, we don't have that. So you got
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: a cheeseburger with no lettuce, no tomatoes on it, with
[1:27:53] Speaker 2: onions and pickles, shit you don't even like to eat,
[1:27:56] Speaker 2: and it's the best burger. I'm like, I'm telling you.
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: She was like, okay, I'm going to come see. And
[1:27:59] Speaker 2: she came, she was like, that burger's pretty good, pretty good.
[1:28:02] Speaker 2: The second one, she didn't come. But she called me,
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: she said, hey, bring me a burger back from the pop-up. Oh, okay.
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: We did one in L.A. Like, our fifth pop-up was
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: in L.A., a complex car, and I call her, I say,
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: I'm at the airport, everything went great, I'm on my
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: way home. She's like, great, you got my burger, right?
[1:28:18] Speaker 2: I say, I left the festival two hours ago. It's
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: three and a half hours to fly to Houston. an
[1:28:24] Speaker 2: hour riding home, everybody going to be cold as hell.
[1:28:27] Speaker 2: But you got it, right? You got it, right? And
[1:28:30] Speaker 2: my wife don't play about that kind of thing. My
[1:28:32] Speaker 2: wife's palate is very clean. She can tell when food
[1:28:35] Speaker 2: ain't right, when something ain't like it should be. But
[1:28:38] Speaker 2: the fact that she eat Trill burgers more than anybody
[1:28:41] Speaker 2: every day she eat the burger but she doing quality
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: control every day the food got to be good every
[1:28:47] Speaker 2: day if she don't like it if she she'll taste
[1:28:50] Speaker 2: shit that nobody else will taste and she'll see things
[1:28:53] Speaker 2: that nobody else will see so every day we're gonna
[1:28:55] Speaker 2: get up we're gonna do what we got to do
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: around errands and Go by the store if you want
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: to go by the store and try it. It's time
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: to expand the brand. We're ready to start.
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: We are willing to do some quality control on this
[1:29:05] Speaker 1: couch as well. We have five willing fans.
[1:29:09] Speaker 3: Me growing up on you, bruh.
[1:29:11] Speaker 4: For you to, I'm saying, from now.
[1:29:13] Speaker 2: It's a blessing, man. It's a blessing to have something
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: like this because I ain't really love nothing like this
[1:29:18] Speaker 2: besides rap music and my gal. That's the only things
[1:29:22] Speaker 2: I've ever loved. I love this burger because it make
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: me want to learn shit. I got to get up
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: and read about a whole different industry, about the people
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: that were captains in the industry. You know what I'm saying?
[1:29:31] Speaker 2: So I want to know how, I've already seen the
[1:29:33] Speaker 2: McDonald's movie, right? And I'm trying to see how Danny
[1:29:36] Speaker 2: built burgers. You know what I'm saying? And Shake Shack.
[1:29:38] Speaker 2: And I'm trying to see how all these people built,
[1:29:40] Speaker 2: like all these great brands are blowing up and expanding.
[1:29:43] Speaker 2: Dave's Hot Chicken, blowing up and expanding. Cane's, blowing up
[1:29:46] Speaker 2: and expanding. So there's a lot of different paths to success.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: So I'm trying to find all of them and see
[1:29:52] Speaker 2: which one of them lends itself to what we're doing.
[1:29:54] Speaker 4: Don't you have a sports shirt?
[1:29:55] Speaker 3: Huh?
[1:29:56] Speaker 2: Houston airport. We're working on it. We have a conversation
[1:29:58] Speaker 2: with a couple of different airports because everybody's talking about, man,
[1:30:02] Speaker 2: I wish I'm flying through Houston. I ain't got time
[1:30:04] Speaker 2: to go. Can I get it in the airport? I'm like,
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: hold my beer.
[1:30:08] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:30:09] Speaker 3: Hold my beer.
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: Give me a sec. Is this for you? Like, like
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: when you started the music?
[1:30:14] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[1:30:14] Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. Cause I want to sound like it. Cause
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: I want to be the best at like with rap, rap,
[1:30:19] Speaker 2: what even no money involved with rap. When I started,
[1:30:21] Speaker 2: I started rapping in 1988. Well, nobody rich off rap
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: but the people that were putting the music out. But
[1:30:26] Speaker 2: no rappers were rich at that time. You fast forward
[1:30:30] Speaker 2: 34 years later, well, 36 years later, and it's so
[1:30:33] Speaker 2: easy to make money off of music. When I made
[1:30:37] Speaker 2: music initially, it was only one place to get. You
[1:30:39] Speaker 2: had to go to a record store. You had to
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: go to a record store, buy one record, and that
[1:30:43] Speaker 2: was it. But now... These songs stream on all these
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: different platforms. They stream in YouTube videos. People do dances
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: to them. They go viral. They end up in commercials
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: for basketball games, movies, TV shows. They end up in
[1:30:55] Speaker 2: the movie. That's how they sell a lot of this
[1:30:57] Speaker 2: stuff is through this. So you got to make sure
[1:30:59] Speaker 2: that you understand the business of it so you can
[1:31:01] Speaker 2: take full advantage of it. That's what I'm trying to
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: do with this burger stuff, this business that I'm in now.
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that are similar as far
[1:31:10] Speaker 2: as promotion and marketing and knowing how to get people's attention.
[1:31:13] Speaker 2: I've been doing that for years. But the nuances of
[1:31:15] Speaker 2: the industry and making sure that you're building an inventory
[1:31:18] Speaker 2: of product that doesn't lose quality quickly. So the burger
[1:31:22] Speaker 2: is built a certain way so that we don't have
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: a lot of shit that just go bad. Like lettuce,
[1:31:26] Speaker 2: once you cut into a head of lettuce, that lettuce
[1:31:29] Speaker 2: is going bad immediately. So if you're not using it
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: right now, you're going to lose it. Same thing with tomatoes. Onions,
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: onions still have a long shelf life. Pickles, they're already
[1:31:37] Speaker 2: in the jar. They're literally pickled. So they have a
[1:31:40] Speaker 2: long shelf life. So we don't lose money. on that
[1:31:42] Speaker 2: type of product. That's the way that we're thinking in
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: terms of shaping and molding. How can we make a
[1:31:47] Speaker 2: great burger that we don't have a lot of crazy
[1:31:50] Speaker 2: ingredients that we end up losing all day, and we're
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: making burger money, but we're losing it because we lose
[1:31:54] Speaker 2: inventory every day. These are the ways that we try
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: to look and approach the business. We're trying to be
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: as tactful as possible, financially sound as possible, but we
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: understand branding and marketing in a way that most people don't.
[1:32:07] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And we come into this
[1:32:09] Speaker 2: brand I bring 30 plus years of cultural influence in
[1:32:13] Speaker 2: this company. Very few companies will ever be able to
[1:32:16] Speaker 2: start with what we started with. We understand that we
[1:32:18] Speaker 2: got a leg up against people, but because we're new,
[1:32:22] Speaker 2: there's still a lot of shit we got to learn
[1:32:23] Speaker 2: that some people may know a little bit more than me.
[1:32:26] Speaker 2: So I can have the biggest name and all that
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: in the world, but if the food ain't good, not
[1:32:30] Speaker 2: only is the restaurant going to die, but your personal
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: reputation that's tied into this brand, that's going to die too.
[1:32:36] Speaker 2: That's why I say I would not I'm good out
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: here with the people. My reputation was solid. This burger
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: could throw all that shit away if I do it wrong.
[1:32:45] Speaker 2: I was rocking with the OG until he started trying
[1:32:47] Speaker 2: to tell me he had the best burger and I
[1:32:48] Speaker 2: went and ate that shit. That shit was nuts. I
[1:32:50] Speaker 2: can't believe he lied to me like that.
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: Absolutely. 36 years in the game, like you said. It's
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: been nearly 17 years since we lost Pimp C. Obviously
[1:32:58] Speaker 1: his memory lives on.
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: Of course. Through the music and one of the.
[1:33:00] Speaker 1: Greatest rap duos in hip-hop history, what are your favorite
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: memories from the UGK era?
[1:33:05] Speaker 2: Man.
[1:33:07] Speaker 1: A lot of stuff we can't even talk about we
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: we can talk about it on this show because i
[1:33:13] Speaker 1: don't know the statute of limitations on some shit okay
[1:33:16] Speaker 1: um and we can look that up we had we
[1:33:19] Speaker 1: had it a little bit better i would say with
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: my generation and the reason i say that is because
[1:33:24] Speaker 1: when it was it was very few cameras in the
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: room yeah.
[1:33:27] Speaker 2: When we did shit you know what i'm saying so
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: there was a lot of physical altercations, we could say,
[1:33:33] Speaker 2: that today would get you absolutely sued.
[1:33:36] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:33:37] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:33:38] Speaker 2: That things we were able to do, you know, the
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: way we used to kick it, it's too many eyes
[1:33:43] Speaker 2: on you nowadays. You know what I'm saying? But we
[1:33:47] Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in the studio together back
[1:33:52] Speaker 2: then because we just wanted to make music and it
[1:33:56] Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of places that you could go and
[1:33:58] Speaker 2: make music. in 1992, 1993, it wasn't even a lot
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: of studios. So when you found one, that was home.
[1:34:05] Speaker 2: And so it was always smart to do everything you
[1:34:07] Speaker 2: wanted to do in the studio. I always told this
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: to other people too. If you want to smoke weed,
[1:34:11] Speaker 2: smoke weed in the studio. Don't be riding around and
[1:34:14] Speaker 2: smoking weed. Don't go to club and different places. Studio
[1:34:16] Speaker 2: is a safe place. You want to deal with girls,
[1:34:19] Speaker 2: bring the girls to the studio. You control it. Everything
[1:34:22] Speaker 2: ain't right, they can go and whatever, and it's not
[1:34:24] Speaker 2: a public situation, whatever happens. If you got beef or whatever, man, just...
[1:34:29] Speaker 2: Stay in the studio. That way, if they want you,
[1:34:32] Speaker 2: they got to come get you. But you can see
[1:34:33] Speaker 2: them coming. It's a little it's a lot. Things are
[1:34:36] Speaker 2: a lot different. But I will say the money now
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: is bananas. The money that these artists can make now
[1:34:45] Speaker 2: because you don't have to go to New York or L.A.
[1:34:47] Speaker 2: to sign a record deal because they don't really know
[1:34:51] Speaker 2: what the culture want anyway. They never really knew. a
[1:34:55] Speaker 2: lot of time they would just guess and pick a motherfucker.
[1:34:57] Speaker 2: They think, oh, I think he going to be all right.
[1:34:59] Speaker 2: He look like a rapper. That was a lot of
[1:35:01] Speaker 2: that shit. He look like a rapper. And they used
[1:35:03] Speaker 2: to have enough time to make, they could make a
[1:35:05] Speaker 2: motherfucker a rapper, right? You know what I'm saying? We
[1:35:07] Speaker 2: put you in the gym, lose some weight, get you
[1:35:09] Speaker 2: in the studio. We'll make a bunch of records till
[1:35:11] Speaker 2: we figure out what kind of records you know how
[1:35:12] Speaker 2: to make. And then we're going to sell that to
[1:35:14] Speaker 2: the people. But nowadays... Well, no, no, no. P is
[1:35:19] Speaker 2: a visionary. P built that. No record company built P.
[1:35:22] Speaker 2: Easy now. P, I remember when P.
[1:35:24] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[1:35:25] Speaker 8: No, I'm saying finding his... And, like, when we gonna
[1:35:28] Speaker 8: put you here? P, let me tell you about P.
[1:35:31] Speaker 2: Master P became rich because everybody underestimated P. P wouldn't
[1:35:37] Speaker 2: believe that P could make the kind of music that
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: could really make money.
[1:35:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:35:41] Speaker 2: So P got offered the kind of deals that they
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: figured he could never honor this deal. Yeah, yeah, if
[1:35:46] Speaker 2: you go gold, we'll give you this. If you go platinum,
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: we'll give you this. But they never thought that shit
[1:35:52] Speaker 2: was going to go gold or platinum. But they didn't
[1:35:57] Speaker 2: understand the hustle. And if you look now, there's always
[1:36:01] Speaker 2: been in every generation, there's been music and musicians. And
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: you'd be like, man, how did this happen? shit become
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: how did that man become this because everybody else that
[1:36:09] Speaker 2: they put it like i play like this y'all athletes
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: niggas that's tall think they're gonna automatically be a basketball.
[1:36:16] Speaker 3: Player right yeah yeah right.
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: Wasn't they get over six three six four and he's
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: 14 years old they everybody tell me i'll be a
[1:36:23] Speaker 2: basketball player some people are just born to play basketball
[1:36:28] Speaker 2: they have different things like their fingers are longer their
[1:36:30] Speaker 2: limbs are long You know what I'm saying? They wingspan.
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: Some bodies lend themselves to that. But even if you
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: got the body, you still got to train. You still
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: got to get the skill set. And you got to
[1:36:39] Speaker 2: be better than somebody else that wants to play that position.
[1:36:42] Speaker 2: And if you're not better physically, you have to work harder.
[1:36:46] Speaker 2: That's how Muggsy Bogues and people like that get in
[1:36:49] Speaker 2: the NBA because they wanted it more than motherfuckers whose
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: bodies should have given them that opportunity. It's the same thing.
[1:36:56] Speaker 2: It's the same thing in the music industry. Top five.
[1:37:01] Speaker 5: Houston rappers ever.
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: Top five Houston rappers ever?
[1:37:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, to you.
[1:37:04] Speaker 5: Your top five Houston rappers.
[1:37:06] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: This gets a little sticky, right? Because technically, I'm from
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: Port Oak.
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: I'm from PA.
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: I'm from PA, so I'm not in it.
[1:37:17] Speaker 1: So UGK gets.
[1:37:18] Speaker 2: We can do Texas. We can do Texas, but he's
[1:37:21] Speaker 2: from PA. But I don't want to do it. I
[1:37:26] Speaker 2: don't want to set a rule with parameters that allow
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: me to be on the list. But I could do
[1:37:32] Speaker 2: Houston without putting me... or pimp in there. Some people
[1:37:36] Speaker 2: would argue about that, but that's fine.
[1:37:39] Speaker 4: We all know where it's... I'll say it for you.
[1:37:42] Speaker 2: I would say, number one.
[1:37:43] Speaker 4: So with basketball conversations, I told him, we need to
[1:37:45] Speaker 4: stop mentioning Michael Jordan, right, with basketball conversations. Just leave
[1:37:49] Speaker 4: him out of it. With Houston rappers, Texas rappers, I'm
[1:37:52] Speaker 4: going to say it, we leave you the fuck out
[1:37:54] Speaker 4: of it.
[1:37:55] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: You in that category.
[1:37:56] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:37:57] Speaker 4: You in face in that category.
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: Oh, so I don't get face either. You don't get
[1:38:00] Speaker 2: face neither. You can take them out. No, you can't give, no.
[1:38:03] Speaker 2: That's not a problem. It's not, but I get it's Chico.
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: It's Chico.
[1:38:08] Speaker 4: That's easy.
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: All right, number one. Y'all all the time great, so no.
[1:38:12] Speaker 2: All right, number one, and I'm going to say this,
[1:38:14] Speaker 2: number one, and Motherfuckers can get mad all they want.
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: I'm going to say Willie D.
[1:38:18] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:38:19] Speaker 2: And the reason I say Willie D is not because
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: of the lyrics and the rap style. It's because of
[1:38:24] Speaker 2: the identity. Like, Willie D is who you better be
[1:38:29] Speaker 2: if you out here in this world talking about you
[1:38:31] Speaker 2: from Houston and you gonna whoop some ass and niggas
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: can't fuck with you.
[1:38:34] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: Then you better be built like Willie D, because I
[1:38:38] Speaker 2: came up in the generation where We was boxing in
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: the club. It was guns, but very seldom did people
[1:38:43] Speaker 2: pull guns on people. So it was a lot of fighting,
[1:38:46] Speaker 2: a lot of fist fighting back then. And Willie D,
[1:38:49] Speaker 2: I've been in a club where rappers have said things
[1:38:51] Speaker 2: about Willie D. Willie D showed up to the club
[1:38:53] Speaker 2: and all of that. So for me, that was the
[1:38:55] Speaker 2: first thing. And keep in mind, Willie D is one
[1:38:57] Speaker 2: of the pillars. So I'm watching this and being like,
[1:38:59] Speaker 2: all right, well, if you're going to get on these
[1:39:00] Speaker 2: records and talk tough, you better be ready to box somebody.
[1:39:02] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:39:03] Speaker 2: And that's why I say Willie D first, because Willie
[1:39:05] Speaker 2: D is the prototype. Because we can all, all y'all
[1:39:08] Speaker 2: can rap. Most of y'all can rap real good, but
[1:39:11] Speaker 2: when it's time to leave Houston and go to Chicago
[1:39:14] Speaker 2: and Atlanta, and Detroit and New York and L.A., you
[1:39:17] Speaker 2: can't be a bitch representing the city. So you need
[1:39:21] Speaker 2: to be built a certain way.
[1:39:24] Speaker 3: He is.
[1:39:25] Speaker 2: That's the first thing. Willie D is number one. But
[1:39:27] Speaker 2: Willie D sets the tone of who you're supposed to be.
[1:39:29] Speaker 3: I'm running for somebody named Willie D.
[1:39:31] Speaker 2: Oh, he on the podcast. He got the podcast. Yeah.
[1:39:34] Speaker 2: And he is exactly like how you think a motherfucker
[1:39:37] Speaker 2: named Willie D would be.
[1:39:38] Speaker 4: Willie D.
[1:39:39] Speaker 3: He is absolutely.
[1:39:43] Speaker 4: Willie D made a song called All In Holes.
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: Willie D had a song called All In Holes. That's
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: the thing, he didn't use a lot of tricks. He
[1:39:50] Speaker 2: just talked very plainly. You know what I'm saying?
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: It was very easy. You knew exactly where Willie D
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: stood the whole time.
[1:39:57] Speaker 2: So I really feel like if you're going to represent
[1:39:59] Speaker 2: the city of Houston, people need to know where you
[1:40:00] Speaker 2: stand the whole time. Number two, now we're going to
[1:40:02] Speaker 2: really start getting into the lyrics. Number two would be 3-2. Mr.
[1:40:06] Speaker 2: 3-2 of the Convicts is probably... the purest lyricist to
[1:40:12] Speaker 2: ever come out of the city of Houston. Nobody lived
[1:40:16] Speaker 2: rap to that. Like, I used to go pick him
[1:40:19] Speaker 2: up all the time, man. If you was around this dude,
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: you had to be ready to rap by three, four hours,
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: at least. Because it don't matter what music you playing
[1:40:27] Speaker 2: in the car, you finna rap on top of that
[1:40:29] Speaker 2: shit and rap better than the music you playing. I
[1:40:32] Speaker 2: spent hours and hours and days and weeks and months
[1:40:36] Speaker 2: and years of just riding around with this dude and him.
[1:40:38] Speaker 2: listening to them rap and watching them construct songs, and
[1:40:41] Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody that was that good and it
[1:40:44] Speaker 2: was that easy for them to be that good. 3-2
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: is the purest lyricist I think we've ever had out
[1:40:50] Speaker 2: of the city of Houston. Number three, Devin the Dude.
[1:40:53] Speaker 2: Devin the Dude, first of all, Devin the Dude is
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: the only rapper I know on social media that don't
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: get no hate in his comments. Like, he has no haters.
[1:41:03] Speaker 3: I thought he was from the Bay.
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody got somebody that
[1:41:07] Speaker 2: don't like him. Right? Just to be a contrary motherfucker.
[1:41:11] Speaker 2: Just because everybody like you, I don't. Devin the Dude
[1:41:14] Speaker 2: is not that dude. He's an amazing songwriter. He's an
[1:41:17] Speaker 2: amazing singer, too. People sleep on the fact that Devin
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: the Dude is not just a great rapper, but he's
[1:41:23] Speaker 2: a really great singer, too. He's done hooks and songs
[1:41:25] Speaker 2: with people all over the world, including Dr.
[1:41:27] Speaker 3: Dre.
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: When Dr. Dre called you to come and sing on
[1:41:30] Speaker 2: a song, keep in mind, Dr. Dre got all the
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: singing motherfuckers he could possibly want around him. So if Dr.
[1:41:35] Speaker 2: Dre calls and says, I need you on this song,
[1:41:37] Speaker 2: that's special. I've been doing this shit for a long time.
[1:41:39] Speaker 2: I ain't never got no call from Dr.
[1:41:41] Speaker 3: Dre.
[1:41:41] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And, you know, he's a workman. Like,
[1:41:47] Speaker 2: He's the kind of dude that come to work, do
[1:41:49] Speaker 2: his job, and go home. You know what I'm saying?
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: He's not a flashy dude. We all make the same
[1:41:54] Speaker 2: kind of money. We all got access to the same shit.
[1:41:57] Speaker 2: But he ain't never been no jury dude, no car dude.
[1:41:59] Speaker 2: Got the money for it. Just not him. Like to
[1:42:02] Speaker 2: come to work, smoke his weed, drink his beer, sing
[1:42:04] Speaker 2: his song, oh yeah, and go home. You know what
[1:42:08] Speaker 2: I'm saying? And people love him for it. He always
[1:42:12] Speaker 2: lightens the room when he comes in. But it's... he's
[1:42:16] Speaker 2: low key, like a killer lyrically. Like most people would
[1:42:20] Speaker 2: underestimate him because his personality, but Devin will very low
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: key tear your ass up on, on the microphone. And
[1:42:29] Speaker 2: funny story, Devin, the dude is the only person that
[1:42:31] Speaker 2: ever asked me to do another verse. He's the only
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: person that I did a verse for. And he was like,
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: Oh gee, I don't want to be disrespectful or anything.
[1:42:40] Speaker 2: I think it's a great verse, but, I don't even
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: think you're talking about what we're talking about on the song.
[1:42:44] Speaker 2: And there was one time where I was just trying
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: to prove how good I could rap. And he was right.
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: I don't think I was really talking about what he
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: was talking about on the song. I just had something
[1:42:53] Speaker 2: I wanted to get off. So I got off. And
[1:42:55] Speaker 2: I was like, you sure right, my man. You sure right.
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: I had to go back in and do it. But
[1:42:59] Speaker 2: only for a person like Devin because I knew it
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: wasn't personal. Because sometimes people can feel threatened. Like you
[1:43:06] Speaker 2: go in and do a song and you tear their
[1:43:07] Speaker 2: ass up on their record, they might start feeling a
[1:43:09] Speaker 2: certain way. But he was like, no, no, it's just.
[1:43:12] Speaker 2: Just talk about what we're talking about a little bit.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: Did you ever have a situation like that where you
[1:43:15] Speaker 1: hopped on a record and the artist felt that you
[1:43:19] Speaker 1: outperformed them?
[1:43:20] Speaker 2: No, what happens is, here's the problem.
[1:43:23] Speaker 3: Get that Webby verse.
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: You can either think you cold, you're going to think
[1:43:27] Speaker 2: you colder than me and you're going to underestimate me.
[1:43:30] Speaker 5: He killed Webby.
[1:43:30] Speaker 2: Right? I'm going to fuck over you. That's very easy.
[1:43:33] Speaker 2: But then there's the thing of, well, you know I'm
[1:43:35] Speaker 2: a better rapper for you, and then you're not trying
[1:43:38] Speaker 2: to get into that. So you done came in defeated.
[1:43:42] Speaker 2: So it's very hard for somebody to really out-rap me
[1:43:45] Speaker 2: if that's not what I want them to do. And
[1:43:48] Speaker 2: that's for any rapper. And niggas know, look, there's a
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: lot of cold people out there. But any given Sunday,
[1:43:54] Speaker 2: my nigga, any given Sunday.
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to the list. Number four,
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: I believe you were at. Yeah, number four.
[1:44:01] Speaker 2: I would probably have to say Killer Calhoun. Killer Calhoun
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: is a member of the Boss Hog outlaws clique and
[1:44:08] Speaker 2: he is just a beast. He is like just like
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: all he want to do is out rap motherfuckers on
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: a song and he's really good at out rapping motherfuckers
[1:44:18] Speaker 2: on a song and you know he's a guy that
[1:44:24] Speaker 2: carries that shit on his shoulder like it's just a
[1:44:26] Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder like he's trying to prove at
[1:44:30] Speaker 2: any given time that he's the best rapper in the room.
[1:44:34] Speaker 2: And I be in the room with him all the time.
[1:44:35] Speaker 2: So I be trying to tell him it.
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: Ain't that easy.
[1:44:38] Speaker 2: But I mean, no, seriously, though, when we talk about
[1:44:41] Speaker 2: lyrics and like hip hop is built off of battle rapping,
[1:44:45] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Battle rapping and breakdancing was
[1:44:48] Speaker 2: ways for young black men and young men of color
[1:44:51] Speaker 2: to settle their differences without having to fight a motherfucker
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: or stab a motherfucker. You can rap against a motherfucker
[1:44:57] Speaker 2: and we still go home. Breakdance against a motherfucker, we
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: can still go home. Killer is the kind of rapper
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: that's ready to go as far as you have to
[1:45:06] Speaker 2: go with the lyrics, as far as eating a motherfucker up.
[1:45:11] Speaker 2: But if we decide we want to do some other shit,
[1:45:13] Speaker 2: we're going to do that too. So it's very hard
[1:45:15] Speaker 2: to catch a W with somebody like a Killer Calhoun.
[1:45:18] Speaker 2: He wakes up every day thinking about how most of
[1:45:22] Speaker 2: these motherfuckers are not as good as him, but yet
[1:45:24] Speaker 2: they're getting... places and attention that they don't deserve. So
[1:45:28] Speaker 2: he's just walking around waiting to get in the room
[1:45:30] Speaker 2: on a mic with certain motherfuckers.
[1:45:31] Speaker 4: You want to rap about some streets up here, you
[1:45:33] Speaker 4: can do that. You want to conscious rap. Whatever you
[1:45:35] Speaker 4: want to do.
[1:45:35] Speaker 2: Because Lorraine Motel is listening. He can rap to any
[1:45:39] Speaker 2: beat with any rapper on any subject matter.
[1:45:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, Lorraine Motel.
[1:45:42] Speaker 3: Period.
[1:45:43] Speaker 2: He can do it all. And then number five. Number
[1:45:49] Speaker 2: five would probably be K-Reno. K Reno was the original
[1:45:56] Speaker 2: battle rapper in Houston. One of the first rappers in
[1:45:59] Speaker 2: Houston to make a hip hop record. First was, um, uh,
[1:46:06] Speaker 2: first person was captain. Jack was the first person to
[1:46:08] Speaker 2: make a rap record in Houston. Jay Prince was the
[1:46:10] Speaker 2: first person to put a rap record out. K Reno
[1:46:12] Speaker 2: was one of the first people to rap in Houston
[1:46:16] Speaker 2: at an independent label. Him and his dad put together
[1:46:18] Speaker 2: an independent label, just like Jay Prince, um, out of
[1:46:22] Speaker 2: the hood, uh, And how do you explain K Reno?
[1:46:28] Speaker 2: K Reno is. You know, it's almost like you say, well,
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: you can't put us a face in it. I don't
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: even think you can really put K Reno in because
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: K Reno is the guy that gets it started. So
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: face feels like he can kind of a thing. You
[1:46:48] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like K Reno was one of
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: those dudes that looked like a rapper. That was the
[1:46:54] Speaker 2: first thing. When he walked in the room, he looked
[1:46:56] Speaker 2: like a rapper. He talked like a rapper. He rapped
[1:46:59] Speaker 2: like a motherfucking rapper. But they were low-key, independent businessmen.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: They were very culturally conscious about creating a black-owned business,
[1:47:09] Speaker 2: about having offices in the black community, trying to pull
[1:47:13] Speaker 2: in other artists from that community, face from the same
[1:47:15] Speaker 2: community as him, and really about how you carried yourself.
[1:47:21] Speaker 2: was a big thing we learned about K-Reno, about poise
[1:47:25] Speaker 2: and character. Like, you ain't got to walk in the
[1:47:27] Speaker 2: room and be talking all loud and acting all tough
[1:47:30] Speaker 2: and shit just to prove that you a good rapper.
[1:47:32] Speaker 2: Just be a good goddamn rapper. And when it's time
[1:47:35] Speaker 2: to rap, tear their ass up. But we're not going
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: to be bragging on some shit we ain't done yet.
[1:47:41] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You either know it or
[1:47:42] Speaker 2: you don't. And to this day, like, we had our
[1:47:46] Speaker 2: 50th anniversary of hip-hop, and we brought him in, and
[1:47:50] Speaker 2: we asked him to speak on it. And instead, he
[1:47:53] Speaker 2: wrote a rhyme that talked about every neighborhood that had
[1:47:59] Speaker 2: rappers from it and all the different places. He tied
[1:48:02] Speaker 2: in the entire culture of the city of Houston in
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: like a 24-bar verse that just fucked everybody up in
[1:48:11] Speaker 2: the room. And everybody in the room is a rapper.
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: And this man is saying shit about the city. I've
[1:48:15] Speaker 2: been writing rhymes about Houston for 32 years.
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: He said shit.
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: I was like, God damn it.
[1:48:20] Speaker 3: Damn.
[1:48:20] Speaker 2: I wish I would've said that. And that's who K
[1:48:22] Speaker 2: Reno is. K Reno has always been the rapper that
[1:48:25] Speaker 2: when he says something, cause we all write rhymes and
[1:48:28] Speaker 2: we all got the same job, but K Reno don't
[1:48:33] Speaker 2: do nothing but rap to this day. He was rapping.
[1:48:36] Speaker 2: When I started rapping, and he probably going to still
[1:48:38] Speaker 2: be rapping when I'm done rapping, but I don't think
[1:48:41] Speaker 2: anybody loves it or has loved it as much as
[1:48:46] Speaker 2: him and the way he shows it. The new generation?
[1:48:49] Speaker 9: Yeah, I see you said a lot of back then.
[1:48:51] Speaker 9: What do you mean the new generation?
[1:48:52] Speaker 2: Well, the new generation, the great thing about the new
[1:48:55] Speaker 2: generation is not that they, they don't have to be
[1:48:57] Speaker 2: great rappers. They got to be great salesmen. You know
[1:49:00] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? That's why somebody like Sauce Walker is
[1:49:02] Speaker 2: so popular. The crazy thing is Sauce Walker is one
[1:49:05] Speaker 2: of the coldest rappers in the new generation. But he
[1:49:10] Speaker 2: keep it in his back pocket. See, he like being underestimated.
[1:49:15] Speaker 2: He like people thinking he a certain type of dude
[1:49:16] Speaker 2: because he's very loud. He's very boisterous. So a lot
[1:49:19] Speaker 2: of people think that that's all he is. This is
[1:49:22] Speaker 2: a concerted effort for you to think that that's all
[1:49:25] Speaker 2: he is. But if you watch the game and you
[1:49:28] Speaker 2: watch the people that in the last two, three years
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: that have built relationships with them. Like, I remember Busta
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: Rhymes was, I think it was the BET Awards, one
[1:49:36] Speaker 2: of the hip-hop awards in the last year or so,
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: and Busta Rhymes, and everybody's in the crowd, because it's
[1:49:42] Speaker 2: a rap show, and Busta go over the songs. It
[1:49:44] Speaker 2: probably was one of the first times he had seen songs,
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: but you hearing about it, you watching the movement, you
[1:49:49] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? It's undeniable. Same thing with a
[1:49:52] Speaker 2: Maxo cream. Somebody that's as thugged out and as crimped
[1:49:55] Speaker 2: out as a Maxo cream ain't supposed to understand the
[1:49:59] Speaker 2: nuances of this game and move accordingly. But dudes that
[1:50:03] Speaker 2: are real street dudes trying to get the fuck out
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: the streets. You know what I'm saying? They've done what
[1:50:09] Speaker 2: they've done. They're not ashamed of what they've done. And
[1:50:11] Speaker 2: if you put them in a position, they're going to
[1:50:12] Speaker 2: do what they do. But really, man, I'm doing this
[1:50:15] Speaker 2: rap shit to really get off that shit. I'm tired
[1:50:17] Speaker 2: of busting niggas upside the head and robbing motherfuckers. You
[1:50:20] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? And hip-hop has saved a lot
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: of people in that way. You know what I'm saying?
[1:50:26] Speaker 2: But the money. These young dudes understand the business of
[1:50:33] Speaker 2: marketing and promoting themselves better than any other generation before them.
[1:50:38] Speaker 2: And the path to the money don't got to go
[1:50:40] Speaker 2: through three, four, five people. No more. You know what
[1:50:43] Speaker 2: I'm saying? You just have to go through. Somebody in
[1:50:46] Speaker 2: the hood found you. They put money into it. Then
[1:50:48] Speaker 2: they took you to a record company. They get money
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: off of it. And you got to sign a publishing deal.
[1:50:53] Speaker 2: They get money off of it. Then you got to
[1:50:54] Speaker 2: go on tour. They get money. These rappers nowadays, they
[1:50:57] Speaker 2: rent the venue. You know what I'm saying? West Side
[1:51:00] Speaker 2: Gun just threw a big show in Chicago this weekend.
[1:51:03] Speaker 2: He rented the venue. He booked the talent. He built
[1:51:06] Speaker 2: a wrestling stage in the middle of the motherfucker. They
[1:51:08] Speaker 2: did rap concerts. They did beat battles between DJ Premier
[1:51:12] Speaker 2: and Pete Rock. Motherfuckers wrestled in the ring. He did
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: this shit all out of pocket, built it all out himself.
[1:51:19] Speaker 2: He's creating a whole new event, a whole new revenue stream.
[1:51:24] Speaker 2: It's so much money that's available. And for us, we
[1:51:28] Speaker 2: just wanted to make music. It was very new. We
[1:51:31] Speaker 2: didn't even understand how motherfuckers made money from music. We
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: just wanted to make music. So we would get the
[1:51:37] Speaker 2: record deals and all of that. And then we start realizing, oh,
[1:51:40] Speaker 2: this record deal is fucked up.
[1:51:41] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:51:42] Speaker 2: But the whole goal of the music industry is to
[1:51:44] Speaker 2: get you young, sign you to a fucked up deal,
[1:51:47] Speaker 2: get all of the talent and opportunities out of you.
[1:51:50] Speaker 2: And then by the time you figure out how it works,
[1:51:52] Speaker 2: you ain't worth nothing no more. They on to the
[1:51:54] Speaker 2: next one. But nowadays, these young dudes are figuring it
[1:51:59] Speaker 2: out a lot quicker. And they could see how to
[1:52:02] Speaker 2: get music directly to people. Motherfuckers ain't never got to
[1:52:06] Speaker 2: go to New York, never got to go to LA,
[1:52:08] Speaker 2: none of that shit. I'll give you the perfect example
[1:52:12] Speaker 2: of artists not needing to wreck companies no more is
[1:52:15] Speaker 2: Soulja Boy. Soulja Boy was a teenage kid in his
[1:52:18] Speaker 2: bedroom with a rubber band necklace making a song about
[1:52:23] Speaker 2: Superman in that hole, right? There was no way a
[1:52:28] Speaker 2: record company in New York would have fucked with that.
[1:52:32] Speaker 2: A record company in L.A. would have fucked with that. Well,
[1:52:35] Speaker 2: they ended up making one of the biggest records literally
[1:52:37] Speaker 2: of all time. Go to a sporting event and they
[1:52:40] Speaker 2: cut that shit off. Everybody going to be doing it.
[1:52:43] Speaker 2: He's still getting paid off of this music. And that's
[1:52:46] Speaker 2: because he took it to the people and let the
[1:52:48] Speaker 2: people decide whether or not they wanted to fuck with that.
[1:52:51] Speaker 2: And that's really how this works now. In the entertainment industry.
[1:52:55] Speaker 2: If you're not thirsty, if you're not desperate, if you're
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: not anxious, right? You can take time, build something directly
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: marketed to a market of people who will spend money
[1:53:07] Speaker 2: directly with you. The money ain't got to go through
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: eight or nine different people. You know what I'm saying?
[1:53:12] Speaker 2: The money comes directly to you. And because of that,
[1:53:18] Speaker 2: there's a higher level of confidence that comes from these
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: younger artists because they financially sound So they confident because
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: not because they think they're going to make some money
[1:53:28] Speaker 2: because they know they're making money. That confidence go into
[1:53:31] Speaker 2: the music. That's why a lot of these young niggas
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: is cocky and arrogant because they get into them. Let
[1:53:36] Speaker 2: me tell you something. The people that created hip hop,
[1:53:38] Speaker 2: and this is very easy to understand. People that created
[1:53:40] Speaker 2: hip hop got paid in sandwich bags. You know, you
[1:53:43] Speaker 2: fit about thirty, forty thousand dollars in a sandwich bag.
[1:53:46] Speaker 2: My generation got paid in grocery bags. You can fit
[1:53:50] Speaker 2: about $ 150, 000 to $ 200, 000 depending on how big the bills are.
[1:53:54] Speaker 2: These niggas get paid in trash bags and not kitchen
[1:53:59] Speaker 2: trash bags.
[1:54:00] Speaker 3: Yard.
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: Industrial.
[1:54:03] Speaker 2: Heavy duties. I did not know that a nightclub could
[1:54:06] Speaker 2: pay somebody $ 60, 000, $ 70, 000 on the back end to come
[1:54:12] Speaker 2: to a club and just hang out and smoke. These
[1:54:14] Speaker 2: dudes got it good. They got it great. The only
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: thing with these dudes is that there's an expectation that
[1:54:24] Speaker 2: goes far beyond what you say. Because people not just
[1:54:27] Speaker 2: only buying into music, they buying into lifestyles. You know
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So they want to follow your life
[1:54:34] Speaker 2: and see if you doing some cool shit. We know
[1:54:37] Speaker 2: the music is good, but what do you be on?
[1:54:40] Speaker 2: What y'all be doing? You know what I'm saying?
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: How y'all living?
[1:54:43] Speaker 2: Y'all really got them cars and that money? I want
[1:54:46] Speaker 2: to see some of that shit. What y'all be smoking
[1:54:49] Speaker 2: on in the studio? I want to smoke some good gas.
[1:54:51] Speaker 2: What's that shit called? So people let them into their world.
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: And social media, you know, it's a big, social media
[1:54:58] Speaker 2: is a big bluff because the reason I say that
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: is because these people are not your friends and they
[1:55:03] Speaker 2: don't like you, even though that's what the apps say, right?
[1:55:10] Speaker 2: They will co-sign the things that you want them to
[1:55:12] Speaker 2: co-sign and then snap on the shit that you don't.
[1:55:16] Speaker 2: So as long as you're talking about, man, this weed
[1:55:18] Speaker 2: is good. Like, man, I bet that weed good. That
[1:55:20] Speaker 2: weed look good. Man, it's beautiful out here. We at
[1:55:22] Speaker 2: the beach chilling. Oh, man, that shit look live or whatever. Man,
[1:55:24] Speaker 2: I just bought the new car and all of that. Oh, man,
[1:55:27] Speaker 2: that's crazy. Trump for president.
[1:55:29] Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa.
[1:55:31] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, camera for president. Hold up, wait, hey, nobody
[1:55:34] Speaker 2: ask you that shit.
[1:55:35] Speaker 1: Nobody ask you that shit.
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: We ain't really worried about that from you, honey.
[1:55:39] Speaker 3: From you?
[1:55:40] Speaker 2: Where the weed at?
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: Where the car? Yeah, where all that at?
[1:55:45] Speaker 5: That's crazy, yeah.
[1:55:47] Speaker 3: Where the weed molds at, man?
[1:55:48] Speaker 2: Exactly how it is. So once you let these people
[1:55:51] Speaker 2: into your life, they start dictating how the fuck you
[1:55:54] Speaker 2: even move. Once they tell you they don't like that
[1:55:58] Speaker 2: you do this, if you got that many followers and
[1:56:01] Speaker 2: you monetize, you might stop doing this shit.
[1:56:03] Speaker 3: No, seriously.
[1:56:03] Speaker 2: If they're like, man, you cool, but so-and-so on your team, motherfucker,
[1:56:06] Speaker 2: can't rap at all. You might send a motherfucker home
[1:56:09] Speaker 2: because you losing followers and shit. Man, quit putting that
[1:56:13] Speaker 2: motherfucker on them songs, man.
[1:56:14] Speaker 1: That shit was jammed.
[1:56:15] Speaker 2: I'm serious, man. If social media would start dictating where
[1:56:18] Speaker 2: you go, who you hang with, man, that's a cool-ass car,
[1:56:21] Speaker 2: but man, you don't see everybody got that.
[1:56:23] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[1:56:23] Speaker 2: They got that new electric Rolls Royce. You ain't going
[1:56:25] Speaker 2: to get that Spectra? You ain't going to pull up
[1:56:27] Speaker 2: like that? Now you got to spend $ 70, 000, $ 80, 000 more.
[1:56:32] Speaker 2: On a deposit, because you ain't from the bottom, motherfucker.
[1:56:37] Speaker 2: So it's a lot of things that they benefit from
[1:56:40] Speaker 2: that we couldn't benefit from, but there's a lot of
[1:56:43] Speaker 2: things that they got to deal with that we ain't
[1:56:45] Speaker 2: got to deal with. And that ain't really just even
[1:56:47] Speaker 2: in artists. That's young people in general. I wouldn't want
[1:56:50] Speaker 2: to be 15 right now. You couldn't pay me to
[1:56:52] Speaker 2: be 15 years old. Right, motherfucker?
[1:56:54] Speaker 1: Nah.
[1:56:57] Speaker 4: Oh, no, I just wanted to know. We're talking about
[1:56:58] Speaker 4: the music.
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: Hey, man. Hey, Ken. I'm going to just be... Man, hey, hey.
[1:57:03] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[1:57:04] Speaker 3: Brother P? Hey, brother. What?
[1:57:09] Speaker 2: You got any.
[1:57:09] Speaker 4: Normal glass of dog? You fucking us up over here
[1:57:12] Speaker 4: with them big-ass eyes, man.
[1:57:14] Speaker 2: Them prescription... What part of swaggy... I know, man.
[1:57:17] Speaker 3: He's brother P now.
[1:57:18] Speaker 2: I'm not the only one, God.
[1:57:19] Speaker 6: He's brother P. That's a nice fucking fish with some
[1:57:22] Speaker 6: big fucking eyes.
[1:57:23] Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey.
[1:57:25] Speaker 3: Look. Brother, brother, brother.
[1:57:26] Speaker 9: I see where this brother knowledge shit come from. It's
[1:57:29] Speaker 9: in the food in Houston. He can speak like you, too.
[1:57:32] Speaker 2: You talking about who? Knowledge shit.
[1:57:35] Speaker 6: Like, he just, this is, like, every time he say something,
[1:57:38] Speaker 6: we look over there.
[1:57:39] Speaker 2: Right, this shit is fucking us up, right? I'm not, like, just,
[1:57:42] Speaker 2: thank you. Keep it like that.
[1:57:43] Speaker 3: I don't know. You just like the fans. You don't
[1:57:46] Speaker 3: want to see Swaggy grow. You want to see Swaggy
[1:57:48] Speaker 3: be this. You don't want to see Swaggy grow.
[1:57:50] Speaker 2: You don't want to see me grow.
[1:57:52] Speaker 3: He just said this shit. Brother, fuck you. That's how
[1:57:57] Speaker 3: I feel about that, Jack. Let's get into some basketball.
[1:58:02] Speaker 4: So you being one of the pioneers coming out of
[1:58:04] Speaker 4: Texas and your pen name is like that. What if
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: you have one or multiple some of your favorite verses
[1:58:14] Speaker 4: that you're 16 and whatever that you've written.
[1:58:17] Speaker 2: Pinky Ring. I think Pinky Ring is probably one of
[1:58:21] Speaker 2: my more in my mind technical in a way that
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: I wrote it but it's called Pinky Ring so It's
[1:58:29] Speaker 2: a driving song, so motherfuckers ain't really listening to how
[1:58:31] Speaker 2: good I'm rapping. Now, I'm rapping in a way that
[1:58:34] Speaker 2: don't get in the way of it being a cool,
[1:58:36] Speaker 2: laid-back record, but I felt like I was really saying
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: some shit in a different way that motherfuckers hadn't really
[1:58:40] Speaker 2: said shit. And nobody cared, because it was a smooth song. Now, Murder,
[1:58:44] Speaker 2: you paying attention to Murder because of how Murder, the
[1:58:46] Speaker 2: beat and all of that, so it lends itself to
[1:58:48] Speaker 2: a motherfucker saying that. But I think Pinky Ring is
[1:58:51] Speaker 2: probably one of my best verses. And people that's really,
[1:58:54] Speaker 2: really into UGK will bring Pinky Ring up and Gravy
[1:58:58] Speaker 2: and songs that you don't think about. You know what
[1:59:00] Speaker 2: I'm saying? Because I'm a lyricist, so for me, I'm
[1:59:04] Speaker 2: going to pick the songs where I feel like I
[1:59:05] Speaker 2: was rapping my ass off. But that's not really what
[1:59:07] Speaker 2: people came to UGK for. You know what I'm saying?
[1:59:10] Speaker 2: It was really to fit the mood. Like, we know
[1:59:14] Speaker 2: how Texas night goes. We know how the streets are
[1:59:17] Speaker 2: moving or whatever, so I don't want to play too
[1:59:19] Speaker 2: much fast shit because I don't want you paying attention
[1:59:21] Speaker 2: to some shit where you need to be seeing, you
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, what's going on around you. So
[1:59:25] Speaker 2: the music is meant to be easy to... to play
[1:59:28] Speaker 2: in the background. But if you do stop and listen
[1:59:31] Speaker 2: to it, it's talking about the kind of shit you're doing.
[1:59:33] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Pink Ring is definitely up there,
[1:59:35] Speaker 4: but Murder is probably mine.
[1:59:37] Speaker 2: Well, Murder is recognized because nobody was really rapping like
[1:59:40] Speaker 2: that from the South.
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: No.
[1:59:41] Speaker 2: Technically, because it wasn't required. Nobody really, nobody in the South,
[1:59:45] Speaker 2: fans in the South didn't ask me to rap like that.
[1:59:49] Speaker 2: You know, but I always wanted to rap like that,
[1:59:52] Speaker 2: but Again, all the music and shit be slow. So
[1:59:55] Speaker 2: I told him, I said, man, I need a fast song.
[1:59:56] Speaker 2: And Pimba be the main motherfucker talking about, you niggas
[1:59:59] Speaker 2: can't fuck with Bambi. I said, I can't out-rap niggas
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: at 75 BPM. Like, this shit is meant to Cadillac turn.
[2:00:08] Speaker 2: This shit is not meant for that. So they gave
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: me Murder as a way to really show motherfuckers what
[2:00:14] Speaker 2: I could really do. Go ahead, Nick.
[2:00:16] Speaker 5: I got one.
[2:00:17] Speaker 9: Top five groups, including y'all, were like, Outcasts of all.
[2:00:23] Speaker 3: Everybody?
[2:00:23] Speaker 2: Everybody. Top five. Top five. Not in any order.
[2:00:26] Speaker 3: It don't have to be just five.
[2:00:29] Speaker 2: Okay. Run DMC off top.
[2:00:32] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:00:34] Speaker 2: Run DMC was always special to us because Run DMC
[2:00:39] Speaker 2: had a nigga that wore glasses, but he wasn't no
[2:00:41] Speaker 2: soft nigga. And that's the thing about Pimp. I never
[2:00:45] Speaker 2: saw nobody crack a joke. Nobody ever cracked a joke.
[2:00:48] Speaker 2: With Pimp about his glass, him wearing glass. That's why
[2:00:50] Speaker 2: I'm offended that you came in, Nick, like that.
[2:00:52] Speaker 3: Thank you, man. I don't appreciate that. Pimp, man. Where
[2:00:55] Speaker 3: you think I got it from? You took his off. No,
[2:00:58] Speaker 3: I'm Pimp P, man. Pimp P.
[2:01:00] Speaker 2: Definitely run DMC.
[2:01:02] Speaker 3: BDP.
[2:01:04] Speaker 2: And the reason I say BDP, because KRS-One was a
[2:01:08] Speaker 2: street dude that didn't have a problem with showing he
[2:01:14] Speaker 2: was intelligent. He was very, very serious about showing people
[2:01:17] Speaker 2: he was intelligent. And when they first started, they was
[2:01:19] Speaker 2: as street as it could be. They were beefing with
[2:01:21] Speaker 2: the niggas in the Queens, the Bronx, and all of that,
[2:01:23] Speaker 2: and the Juice crew and all that type of shit.
[2:01:27] Speaker 2: But I look at it in retrospect now because I
[2:01:30] Speaker 2: was a big fan of the music and the language
[2:01:33] Speaker 2: and the vocabulary and all of that, but then he
[2:01:35] Speaker 2: was one of the first people I.
[2:01:36] Speaker 4: Saw that had to carry his.
[2:01:38] Speaker 2: Group on after somebody had passed away and was still
[2:01:42] Speaker 2: able to make sure he honored His partner in the
[2:01:46] Speaker 2: music kept his memory alive. I didn't even realize how
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: much of an impact that had on me until I
[2:01:52] Speaker 2: was in that situation. So there was already people showing
[2:01:57] Speaker 2: that you could still honor somebody and keep the music
[2:01:59] Speaker 2: going and keep everything alive. Obviously, I can't be UGK,
[2:02:04] Speaker 2: but I can still make music that contributes to the
[2:02:06] Speaker 2: legacy of UGK and make sure that people are not
[2:02:09] Speaker 2: putting shit on my boy name. You know what I'm saying?
[2:02:11] Speaker 2: You did it there, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Number three,
[2:02:15] Speaker 2: I got to say Ball and G. I got to
[2:02:19] Speaker 2: say Ball and G. And the reason I say Ball
[2:02:21] Speaker 2: and G is because I've seen them go through everything
[2:02:26] Speaker 2: that musicians go through in the record company, falling out
[2:02:29] Speaker 2: with your original people, rebuilding, learning how to restructure everything.
[2:02:34] Speaker 2: I've seen them do all of that without letting it
[2:02:37] Speaker 2: fuck with them. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes people
[2:02:40] Speaker 2: go through things that make them different people. They come
[2:02:44] Speaker 2: out different because of it. And I'm not saying that
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: they shouldn't because when you go through some hard times,
[2:02:49] Speaker 2: it can make you a hard person. Man, these dudes
[2:02:52] Speaker 2: are still as funny, fun to be around. You know,
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: them and Devin, those are the best kind of people
[2:02:58] Speaker 2: you can be around because I've been seeing these people.
[2:03:01] Speaker 2: It's 92. I've been seeing these dudes for 32 years.
[2:03:05] Speaker 2: Niggas talk the same. They still smoke the same kind
[2:03:08] Speaker 2: of weed. They laugh at the same jokes. They with
[2:03:11] Speaker 2: the same people. You know what I'm saying? And they
[2:03:14] Speaker 2: still mean what they've always meant to the game. They
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: stay solid in spite of the bullshit. And they've made
[2:03:24] Speaker 2: great music the whole time.
[2:03:27] Speaker 4: They pointed at one of my birthdays in Denver.
[2:03:29] Speaker 2: I still believe that A-Ball and MJG are one of
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: the most underappreciated groups ever.
[2:03:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:03:36] Speaker 2: Because being in a group ain't easy. You know what
[2:03:39] Speaker 2: I'm saying? Motherfuckers get old. Motherfuckers don't fuck with the
[2:03:43] Speaker 2: same kind of women. Right? So you get married, I
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: get married, our wives might not get along. There's a
[2:03:48] Speaker 2: lot of shit that go into this shit. You know
[2:03:51] Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
[2:03:52] Speaker 3: I'm being real. Absolutely.
[2:03:55] Speaker 2: You know, baby mama drama, all that type of shit. Hey, man,
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: you just can't keep coming around. You need to get
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: your house together. All that type of shit will break
[2:04:02] Speaker 2: up a group, man. These dudes been through a lot.
[2:04:04] Speaker 2: I'm not saying they went through this shit either. I
[2:04:05] Speaker 2: don't know. But life.
[2:04:08] Speaker 3: Life.
[2:04:09] Speaker 2: Whatever was going on, they stuck with each other. They
[2:04:12] Speaker 2: were like, as long as me and you together, we
[2:04:15] Speaker 2: got this. And that's why I love Ball and G
[2:04:18] Speaker 2: so much. Wu-Tang Clan. The reason I say the Wu-Tang
[2:04:25] Speaker 2: Clan is because it's hard to keep two motherfuckers. It's
[2:04:32] Speaker 2: hard to keep two motherfuckers on the same page. Uh-huh.
[2:04:38] Speaker 2: You ever try to get four friends to meet you
[2:04:39] Speaker 2: somewhere at the same day at the same time? Yeah, exactly.
[2:04:42] Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
[2:04:45] Speaker 2: Imagine your money is tied into that. Oh, shit. Imagine
[2:04:49] Speaker 2: your money, everything about your life is tied into eight
[2:04:52] Speaker 2: other motherfuckers being where they're supposed to be on time,
[2:04:56] Speaker 2: and one of them is old Dirty Bast.
[2:04:58] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[2:05:00] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[2:05:04] Speaker 2: That shit not easy to maintain, to keep together. It's
[2:05:07] Speaker 2: not easy to schedule. You got to have, motherfuckers got
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: to be able to go to studio time, to the studio,
[2:05:13] Speaker 2: to the show, all this type of shit, man. And
[2:05:15] Speaker 2: life get in the way all the motherfucking time. Life
[2:05:18] Speaker 2: gets in the way. They was able to, in spite
[2:05:21] Speaker 2: of all of that shit, they built a world-renowned group
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: that to this day They can go anywhere in the
[2:05:27] Speaker 2: world and represent that shit. And now nine motherfuckers have revenue.
[2:05:31] Speaker 2: They own relative singular revenue streams because they all do
[2:05:35] Speaker 2: their solo projects. Some of them lend themselves to other things.
[2:05:39] Speaker 2: Method Man, he an actor now making that kind of
[2:05:41] Speaker 2: money and shit like that. But to believe that we
[2:05:45] Speaker 2: and it's protective as well, too, because there's nine of
[2:05:49] Speaker 2: us wherever we go. So we should be able to
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: take care of any situation. But smart enough to know that,
[2:05:58] Speaker 2: you know, we different dudes. And they might not like
[2:06:03] Speaker 2: this shit in Arizona. And they might not like this
[2:06:06] Speaker 2: shit in South Dakota, you know. And so it might
[2:06:10] Speaker 2: be more than nine motherfuckers sometimes. But they still, to
[2:06:15] Speaker 2: this day, they still find a way to bring everybody
[2:06:18] Speaker 2: back together. Some of them are more successful than others,
[2:06:22] Speaker 2: but they bring that success back to the collective. Method
[2:06:27] Speaker 2: Man doesn't need the Wu-Tang Clan necessarily, in our eyes.
[2:06:31] Speaker 2: But in his mind, in his heart, I ain't nothing
[2:06:35] Speaker 2: without the Wu-Tang Clan. And that's what being in a
[2:06:37] Speaker 2: group is all about. That's number four. Number five.
[2:06:43] Speaker 3: Uh-oh, that's it.
[2:06:44] Speaker 2: Number motherfucking five. You left off some good groups. I
[2:06:53] Speaker 2: gotta say N.W.A. How about the same? I gotta say N.W.A.
[2:06:56] Speaker 2: And it don't even matter that they wasn't even a
[2:06:58] Speaker 2: group the whole time. They got to beefing and the
[2:07:01] Speaker 2: group broke up. But man, fuck the police. Man. It's
[2:07:06] Speaker 2: the boldest shit a black man ever said to the police.
[2:07:13] Speaker 2: They made a song. When you make a song called
[2:07:16] Speaker 2: Fuck the Police... You put yourself on the police radar.
[2:07:23] Speaker 2: You got a job that take you all around the country.
[2:07:27] Speaker 2: Where's police? Everywhere you got to go. And you the
[2:07:30] Speaker 2: dude that say fuck the police. Now, you might be
[2:07:33] Speaker 2: able to get away with that shit in certain cities,
[2:07:37] Speaker 2: major metropolitan cities where you can get lost in it.
[2:07:39] Speaker 2: But in small town America... motherfucking Mississippi, Alabama, you talking
[2:07:45] Speaker 2: some fuck the police shit, it get real. It's real.
[2:07:50] Speaker 2: I met a motherfucker about 12 years ago that told
[2:07:53] Speaker 2: me that the police picked him up and took him
[2:07:56] Speaker 2: in the woods and told him to run. That motherfucker said,
[2:07:59] Speaker 2: I'm not running. nowhere. He killed me here. I'm not
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: going nowhere. This shit, that's in small-town America. This shit
[2:08:05] Speaker 2: still happens. And these motherfuckers out here saying, fuck the police.
[2:08:08] Speaker 3: Like then.
[2:08:10] Speaker 2: And you know what we did? We said, fuck them, too,
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: so the police know they had molded. It was some
[2:08:15] Speaker 2: more with that. They had mold in them, huh? It
[2:08:17] Speaker 2: ain't just them.
[2:08:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. We feel that way, too.
[2:08:21] Speaker 2: And, you know, they did not stand the test of time.
[2:08:27] Speaker 2: But they gave us more than enough from the group
[2:08:31] Speaker 2: to run with. And that's kind of what I think
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: NWA was meant to do. Because they all went, even
[2:08:37] Speaker 2: with Dr. Dre being as rich and popular with Chronic
[2:08:41] Speaker 2: and all of that, it's still NWA. It's still fuck
[2:08:44] Speaker 2: the police. We were all Ice Cube, prolific. All it
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: meant is fuck the police. Eazy-E's gone, rest in peace, man.
[2:08:51] Speaker 2: He said, fuck the police. And I don't think we
[2:08:54] Speaker 2: believe nobody more when they say, fuck the police than Eazy-E.
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[2:08:59] Speaker 2: One of the littlest in stature, but one of the
[2:09:00] Speaker 2: biggest in character and personality, Eazy-E. So, yeah, I got
[2:09:05] Speaker 2: to give it up to N.W.A. because I wasn't a
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: Raiders fan. I didn't know who the fucking Kings was.
[2:09:10] Speaker 2: None of that shit. I just know I needed them
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: starter jackets and the pants, man. And that identity of just...
[2:09:18] Speaker 2: We from the hood, we black, and we really don't
[2:09:21] Speaker 2: give a fuck if they understand us. Because we not
[2:09:23] Speaker 2: talking to them no way.
[2:09:25] Speaker 3: No outpats and no bone thugs.
[2:09:28] Speaker 4: Huh?
[2:09:28] Speaker 3: No bone thugs.
[2:09:29] Speaker 2: No, I said five.
[2:09:31] Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm saying.
[2:09:32] Speaker 2: The man gave his list.
[2:09:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got a small bone to pick with you,
[2:09:35] Speaker 4: that's all. I just want to know why Face ain't
[2:09:38] Speaker 4: got more songs and y'all deprive me.
[2:09:42] Speaker 2: Me and Face have been trying to do an album together.
[2:09:46] Speaker 3: What is this?
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: This is.
[2:09:47] Speaker 6: 2024?
[2:09:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:09:48] Speaker 4: Hey, but hey.
[2:09:52] Speaker 2: For about 25 years.
[2:09:53] Speaker 4: Okay, we need face. We don't need Brad.
[2:09:56] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:09:56] Speaker 4: We don't need Brad. Brad can do some music on it,
[2:10:00] Speaker 4: but I need face.
[2:10:02] Speaker 2: Here's the thing. And it was always from him. Bunny,
[2:10:05] Speaker 2: because that's what he called me. He called me Bunny,
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: called me Bunny. Him and Big Mike called me Bunny Dangerous.
[2:10:10] Speaker 2: It's a long story. He said, Bunny. He called my phone.
[2:10:13] Speaker 2: I answered the phone. Bunny, when are we going to
[2:10:15] Speaker 2: do this album? I'm ready when you are. I'm going
[2:10:17] Speaker 2: to call you back. I don't want to hear from
[2:10:19] Speaker 2: FaZe for six months. In that time, he had done
[2:10:22] Speaker 2: another album, solo album, dropped the album, went on tour
[2:10:25] Speaker 2: two years later.
[2:10:26] Speaker 3: Money!
[2:10:27] Speaker 2: Stop fucking with me, FaZe. And the thing is, he
[2:10:29] Speaker 2: would always call me, and my wife would be there.
[2:10:31] Speaker 2: My wife is a huge Scarface fan, and my wife
[2:10:33] Speaker 2: believes that a Bambi Scarface album would be bananas. Like,
[2:10:37] Speaker 2: it would just be crazy. So she'd get excited every time.
[2:10:40] Speaker 2: FaZe called. See, I told you he was going to call.
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: It's y'all for the dude album. Year after year after
[2:10:45] Speaker 2: year after year goes by. And we just never get
[2:10:49] Speaker 2: on the same page to do it. We both want
[2:10:52] Speaker 2: to do it. Now, the problem is he want to
[2:10:53] Speaker 2: produce most of us. I don't know. That's Brad.
[2:10:56] Speaker 4: That's Brad.
[2:10:56] Speaker 2: That's Brad.
[2:10:57] Speaker 4: That's Brad.
[2:10:58] Speaker 2: He want to produce the motherfucker. I ain't got no
[2:11:00] Speaker 2: problem with it, but.
[2:11:02] Speaker 4: Y'all can do some of that, but y'all got to
[2:11:04] Speaker 4: give us some of that, too.
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's got to be a good balance.
[2:11:08] Speaker 4: I'm with both, but I'm really biased in this conversation
[2:11:14] Speaker 4: that we're having.
[2:11:15] Speaker 2: I honestly couldn't tell you why we haven't done it.
[2:11:20] Speaker 3: I understand.
[2:11:21] Speaker 2: We both want to do it. We both know it'll work.
[2:11:26] Speaker 2: We've had to sit down with a very prominent figure
[2:11:29] Speaker 2: in the music industry that flew to Houston. to take
[2:11:31] Speaker 2: us to dinner to talk about this album. And the
[2:11:34] Speaker 2: dinner got away from us.
[2:11:36] Speaker 4: That's all I can tell you.
[2:11:37] Speaker 2: The conversation started by music and went some whole other
[2:11:41] Speaker 2: different shit. And it just, it didn't ever come to fruition.
[2:11:43] Speaker 2: But it's, it's something that everybody want. We want to
[2:11:47] Speaker 2: do it. Just, I don't know. It's, I don't think
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: we're ever in a, when he's ready, I'm not, You know,
[2:11:59] Speaker 2: because I went through a lot of the Pimp C
[2:12:01] Speaker 2: stuff in that time. There was a lot of restructuring.
[2:12:03] Speaker 2: It was a time where I wasn't even doing music.
[2:12:06] Speaker 2: And there was a time for him where he was
[2:12:07] Speaker 2: the same way. He was like, I'm getting a little old.
[2:12:11] Speaker 2: I don't want to keep doing all this shit. You know,
[2:12:12] Speaker 2: he got a front office job with the Astros. So
[2:12:15] Speaker 2: he made good money now. So he don't have to
[2:12:18] Speaker 2: go on the road. So Scarface, not really tripping about
[2:12:22] Speaker 2: rap music. But when they call off a tiny disc...
[2:12:27] Speaker 2: and they let Brad get out there.
[2:12:28] Speaker 4: Absolutely, Brad.
[2:12:30] Speaker 2: Now he want to do music, he want to do everything. Absolutely.
[2:12:32] Speaker 2: Because people know his full talent. He been playing the
[2:12:35] Speaker 2: guitar on these albums the whole time. Faze probably produced
[2:12:39] Speaker 2: a lot of songs most people don't even know. He
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: produced a lot of shit you heard him rapping on.
[2:12:43] Speaker 2: He produced, he played on. Yeah, I didn't know until
[2:12:45] Speaker 2: I went back and looked. He produced songs for me,
[2:12:48] Speaker 2: sang hooks and shit for me. A lot of people
[2:12:49] Speaker 2: don't even know that he does that. Now, he's got
[2:12:53] Speaker 2: a new life because of that. So he out there
[2:12:55] Speaker 2: with the band. That's what he on now. And it's
[2:12:57] Speaker 2: a lot easier because you're not... You know, I spend
[2:13:00] Speaker 2: a lot of time just being real. I spend a
[2:13:01] Speaker 2: lot of time trying to get my money with pistols
[2:13:03] Speaker 2: at 2 in the morning from drug dealers.
[2:13:05] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[2:13:05] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[2:13:06] Speaker 3: And....
[2:13:08] Speaker 2: That shit get old after a minute. It's not even
[2:13:11] Speaker 2: about if you can handle it, because in that sense,
[2:13:13] Speaker 2: it's not an issue. But I'm 52 years old. I
[2:13:17] Speaker 2: ain't trying to get paid with pistols no more. I
[2:13:19] Speaker 2: need to be done, really, before the steakhouse closed. So
[2:13:24] Speaker 2: all that pulling up at one in the morning, but
[2:13:26] Speaker 2: we off dead. I need some good food. My team needs,
[2:13:28] Speaker 2: we old niggas, man. My knees don't work right after midnight.
[2:13:31] Speaker 2: If somebody starts shooting, I probably won't be able to
[2:13:34] Speaker 2: run very fast.
[2:13:35] Speaker 4: So I'm just.
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: Trying to take myself out of them times. But yeah, no,
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: the Bumpy and Scarface album would be amazing. And it's just...
[2:13:46] Speaker 2: Life just kept getting in the way.
[2:13:47] Speaker 3: I dig it, brother. So we got you here.
[2:13:50] Speaker 2: You may have been sitting on a question. Go ahead,
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: go ahead. So we got you.
[2:13:52] Speaker 3: We got to talk a little hoops. Obviously, you're a
[2:13:53] Speaker 3: Rockets fan.
[2:13:54] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[2:13:55] Speaker 1: So recently signed Jalen Green and Alfred Shanguna. JG.
[2:13:58] Speaker 3: Multi-year extensions.
[2:13:59] Speaker 1: Got a solid young core mixed with some veteran leadership
[2:14:02] Speaker 1: with Fred Van Fleet and Dylan Brooks. How excited are
[2:14:05] Speaker 1: you about this Rockets squad, and what do you think
[2:14:07] Speaker 1: their ceiling is this season?
[2:14:09] Speaker 2: I'm good, man. I'm really, first of all, I like
[2:14:12] Speaker 2: the direction that the organization is going in, investing in
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: young talent. I don't think– I still don't think we
[2:14:19] Speaker 2: got the right veteran. Like, I like Fred. Like, Fred
[2:14:23] Speaker 2: is a good, genuine person. He's a hard competitor. That's not–
[2:14:29] Speaker 2: what his role plays, that's not what they're missing. You
[2:14:33] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? But that being said, I like
[2:14:36] Speaker 2: young talent. I like investing in young talent because you
[2:14:39] Speaker 2: can build a team around young talent. And they're trying
[2:14:42] Speaker 2: to build this team around JG the right way. You
[2:14:44] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? It's just about hitting that stride,
[2:14:50] Speaker 2: getting a roll. And sometimes seasons don't start. It takes
[2:14:53] Speaker 2: a while for this shit to start coming together. Luckily,
[2:14:55] Speaker 2: y'all got a lot of games to play. So we
[2:14:57] Speaker 2: can start figuring it out. I was surprised at Barney
[2:15:02] Speaker 2: and Adams. That I didn't see coming. I didn't see
[2:15:05] Speaker 2: that coming. But I think it can work. Like, he's
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: a seasoned guy. He understands how to play the game.
[2:15:12] Speaker 2: And knowledge is important. Knowledge is definitely important. Clock management
[2:15:16] Speaker 2: and shit like that is important. But I think the
[2:15:18] Speaker 2: Rockets are going to be good. I think they're good.
[2:15:21] Speaker 2: I don't know how soon. I think maybe in the
[2:15:22] Speaker 2: next three years. I think in the next three years,
[2:15:25] Speaker 2: they should be very strong competitors because they should have
[2:15:27] Speaker 2: this shit all figured out. They should be gelling at
[2:15:31] Speaker 2: that point. And they got bread, so they could spend
[2:15:33] Speaker 2: some money to bring them in. Tillman got some money.
[2:15:35] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[2:15:36] Speaker 2: He got some bread. If they get the right person
[2:15:39] Speaker 2: becomes available. Not like, well, I don't want to start
[2:15:41] Speaker 2: picking on teams. I got a good relationship with everybody,
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: but no, I believe the Rockets are on an upward
[2:15:49] Speaker 2: trajectory for sure. For sure. Whereas we were not for
[2:15:52] Speaker 2: many years, you know, less God bless him. Less Alexander
[2:15:55] Speaker 2: was a good owner, but he was stuck in certain
[2:15:57] Speaker 2: ways that Tillman not, you know, Tillman is a different
[2:16:00] Speaker 2: kind of businessman. His business is done sociably. You know
[2:16:04] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So, going out, really meeting with talent,
[2:16:06] Speaker 2: getting to know people and figuring that type of shit out.
[2:16:09] Speaker 2: You know, he's a very personable owner, but he don't
[2:16:13] Speaker 2: act like he know more about the game than the
[2:16:15] Speaker 2: coaches and the staff and the athletes. He's just a
[2:16:18] Speaker 2: person that makes, he's kind of like a Cuban that makes,
[2:16:21] Speaker 2: you know, owner that wants to make players feel comfortable.
[2:16:24] Speaker 2: And Houston is a very easy city to like, Texas.
[2:16:26] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You save that tax money,
[2:16:29] Speaker 2: that quality of life is real good on all sides,
[2:16:32] Speaker 2: especially for you young cats, the quality of life. It's
[2:16:34] Speaker 2: very good. Houston has one of the best nightlifes. And
[2:16:37] Speaker 2: there's no paparazzi in Houston. You know what I'm saying? Damn.
[2:16:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, see? That's crazy.
[2:16:44] Speaker 2: Look, Nick just thought about that. You ain't going to
[2:16:47] Speaker 2: never get caught.
[2:16:48] Speaker 9: I got PTSD from paparazzi. Waking up, seeing my name everywhere.
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: It hurts.
[2:16:54] Speaker 3: It hurts. Waking up like, God damn, what did I
[2:16:57] Speaker 3: do today?
[2:16:57] Speaker 4: It was because of what you did before you went
[2:16:59] Speaker 4: to sleep. Before you closed your eyes, whatever you did.
[2:17:04] Speaker 3: Like, did I do something last night? Please don't let
[2:17:06] Speaker 3: me check. I hate that.
[2:17:08] Speaker 2: I like him. I really like the center.
[2:17:10] Speaker 3: He's a guy.
[2:17:10] Speaker 2: I just really finally met him. That's a big boy.
[2:17:13] Speaker 4: Sangoon?
[2:17:14] Speaker 2: Sangoon is a big, big boy. But the city, like,
[2:17:18] Speaker 2: we love him. Like, we love him. Like, we believe
[2:17:21] Speaker 2: in him for the future. We love him. He having
[2:17:23] Speaker 2: a rough start. But, again, these things take some time
[2:17:27] Speaker 2: to figure out. But, nah, if long as they build
[2:17:31] Speaker 2: around him and JG, we can figure this shit out.
[2:17:35] Speaker 2: We can absolutely figure this out.
[2:17:39] Speaker 3: We'll see.
[2:17:40] Speaker 2: And I like Amon. I like Amon.
[2:17:41] Speaker 3: I like Cam.
[2:17:42] Speaker 2: You know, we got some young shooters. We got some
[2:17:44] Speaker 2: young shooters.
[2:17:45] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's shift it to another team we
[2:17:47] Speaker 1: need to discuss.
[2:17:48] Speaker 3: We got Mr. B here on this couch.
[2:17:50] Speaker 1: Got to talk about some things going on in the 4-1-4.
[2:17:55] Speaker 3: We got to do it. It went from bad to worse.
[2:17:59] Speaker 1: Bucks were looking to snap a four-game losing streak. When
[2:18:01] Speaker 1: the undefeated Cavs came to town Saturday, Giannis finished the
[2:18:05] Speaker 1: game with 34.16 rebounds and nine dimes. And they're having
[2:18:08] Speaker 1: his worst game with the Bucs on Halloween. Dame came
[2:18:11] Speaker 1: through with his first 40-piece of the season. Hitting 10
[2:18:16] Speaker 1: threes along with this clutch go-ahead bucket with nine seconds
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: remaining to give the Bucs a one-point lead. Things looked
[2:18:25] Speaker 1: like they were on the up-and-up. But Dame time was short-lived.
[2:18:29] Speaker 1: As Donovan Mitchell responded.
[2:18:30] Speaker 3: High five.
[2:18:34] Speaker 1: Brother Pete's high five shooting guard, Donovan Mitchell, responded with
[2:18:37] Speaker 1: a 19-footer. We got some Cavs fans in the building.
[2:18:40] Speaker 1: Still the win for the Cavs. Bucs are now 1-5
[2:18:42] Speaker 1: on the season. Five straight losses following their season-opening win
[2:18:48] Speaker 1: over the Sixers.
[2:18:49] Speaker 5: That was for Mr. B. They said he was looking
[2:18:52] Speaker 5: for me in the stands.
[2:18:53] Speaker 3: They said that after the game, he said, where's Mr.
[2:18:55] Speaker 2: B at?
[2:18:56] Speaker 1: Y'all better talk about that on Gil's Arena, presented by
[2:18:58] Speaker 1: underdog Wolf Wolf.
[2:18:59] Speaker 2: Wolf Wolf.
[2:19:00] Speaker 1: Mr. B, how concerned are you with the current state
[2:19:03] Speaker 1: of the Bucks franchise?
[2:19:04] Speaker 3: You can be honest. This is a safe space. I'm concerned.
[2:19:07] Speaker 4: It's ugly.
[2:19:08] Speaker 7: It ain't pretty at all, man. Rumors about Giannis wanting
[2:19:11] Speaker 7: to go other places.
[2:19:12] Speaker 3: It ain't good at all.
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: The Nets and Heat have been potential options warriors in
[2:19:16] Speaker 1: the mix as well.
[2:19:17] Speaker 5: We stuck. Bro, we are stuck right now. It's a shame.
[2:19:23] Speaker 1: Worst start for the Bucks in 2000.
[2:19:26] Speaker 5: We stuck.
[2:19:28] Speaker 3: We'll take them.
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: Huh?
[2:19:30] Speaker 3: We'll take Giannis if you want to leave. In L.A.?
[2:19:33] Speaker 3: No boo dinner.
[2:19:34] Speaker 2: Do you think they get rid of him before the deadline? Ooh, ooh.
[2:19:38] Speaker 5: And Giannis.
[2:19:40] Speaker 2: And Giannis. How long can they manage this?
[2:19:43] Speaker 3: That's my thing.
[2:19:44] Speaker 2: Like, how long can they manage this? Does he have...
[2:19:46] Speaker 2: Because I'm not familiar with the contract and all of that.
[2:19:48] Speaker 2: I don't even know if he's got the power to just...
[2:19:51] Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of bind that leaves him.
[2:19:53] Speaker 3: He is the Greek freak. He can do whatever he wants.
[2:19:55] Speaker 5: I mean, if he come out and say he wants
[2:19:57] Speaker 5: to be traded, he will be traded.
[2:20:00] Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a problem with that.
[2:20:02] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[2:20:03] Speaker 3: What's your problem, Gil?
[2:20:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:20:05] Speaker 2: There we go.
[2:20:06] Speaker 6: Because last season, this time, there was no talk of
[2:20:09] Speaker 6: him leaving.
[2:20:11] Speaker 2: There was no, so the fact that we brought a
[2:20:13] Speaker 2: guy in.
[2:20:16] Speaker 6: Who has him to the point where he's requesting the trade,
[2:20:20] Speaker 6: I'm sorry. We've seen this before, right? We've just seen
[2:20:24] Speaker 6: this in Philly, right? A guy goes there and breaks
[2:20:29] Speaker 6: up two seven-footers. You turn the city on to Ben Simmons,
[2:20:36] Speaker 6: and you broke up that whole Philly thing. And then
[2:20:42] Speaker 6: you come here and you're breaking up my team?
[2:20:45] Speaker 2: Like, I'm sorry.
[2:20:46] Speaker 4: I'm going to have an issue with that.
[2:20:49] Speaker 5: Well, we can't fire him.
[2:20:50] Speaker 2: I know.
[2:20:51] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[2:20:51] Speaker 2: If I got to trade my piece, you're fired.
[2:20:56] Speaker 6: Because if history says what history is saying, when Doc
[2:21:02] Speaker 6: is on the burner, he's already talking to another team.
[2:21:07] Speaker 6: And when he was with When he was with Clippers,
[2:21:11] Speaker 6: he was already talking with a whole nother organization. When
[2:21:15] Speaker 6: he was with Philly, he was already talking with a whole...
[2:21:19] Speaker 6: So I have to assume that the way his record's
[2:21:23] Speaker 6: been going for the last 43 games.
[2:21:26] Speaker 6: He is already talking to another team, and one thing
[2:21:30] Speaker 6: Doc has is relationships. So for the most part, we
[2:21:34] Speaker 6: know his ass is going to get another job. There's
[2:21:37] Speaker 6: going to be another team, goddammit, that's going to hire him.
[2:21:40] Speaker 6: Because his business is not winning games.
[2:21:44] Speaker 4: His business is relationships. I don't think no one's factored
[2:21:48] Speaker 4: that in. We're looking at Doc for his record. We
[2:21:52] Speaker 4: need to be looking at his relationships.
[2:21:54] Speaker 6: He is friends with a whole lot of people who
[2:21:57] Speaker 6: believe in Doc.
[2:21:59] Speaker 2: So has he checked out already?
[2:22:00] Speaker 3: It's not Doc.
[2:22:01] Speaker 2: He checked out when he checked in.
[2:22:03] Speaker 9: As soon as he wrote it, he was perpetually checked out.
[2:22:06] Speaker 2: As soon as he signed that $ 40 million.
[2:22:08] Speaker 4: Boom, boom, he lost that first game.
[2:22:10] Speaker 2: He's like, hey, so how y'all doing over there?
[2:22:14] Speaker 8: How y'all doing over there?
[2:22:16] Speaker 2: I never thought about it. I mean, think about that.
[2:22:18] Speaker 5: He came into a situation like Gil said. 30 and 13.
[2:22:21] Speaker 4: 30 and 13.
[2:22:23] Speaker 6: There's no fucking way he thought he was going to
[2:22:24] Speaker 6: just go on top of that. Like, as a coach,
[2:22:27] Speaker 6: do you think that you were going to, like, lose,
[2:22:33] Speaker 6: go in a 20-game winning streak? You know your offense
[2:22:35] Speaker 6: ain't like that.
[2:22:36] Speaker 3: The Bucs don't got the players, man.
[2:22:38] Speaker 2: But they had it when he, but they had it.
[2:22:40] Speaker 3: They don't got the players.
[2:22:42] Speaker 4: What is the odds if we had to vote right
[2:22:46] Speaker 4: now and say, all right, Doc is about to get
[2:22:49] Speaker 4: a job. He got 43 games with Giannis and Dame
[2:22:55] Speaker 4: on a team.
[2:22:56] Speaker 3: On the same team. On a team.
[2:22:58] Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck who you put. What you
[2:23:00] Speaker 6: think they record would be. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody having
[2:23:04] Speaker 6: them 19 and 23.
[2:23:05] Speaker 4: Nobody. On this God green earth to have a Doc
[2:23:10] Speaker 4: Rivers team with his name with Giannis and Dame on it.
[2:23:14] Speaker 4: You're talking about two bona fide Hall of Famers in.
[2:23:18] Speaker 2: There are primes.
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: But it happens, though.
[2:23:21] Speaker 6: Because that, you know how bad you have to be
[2:23:24] Speaker 6: as a coach?
[2:23:25] Speaker 3: Look at Phoenix.
[2:23:27] Speaker 2: Look at Phoenix.
[2:23:28] Speaker 8: Look.
[2:23:29] Speaker 1: Oh, they've been injured.
[2:23:30] Speaker 2: These are healthy.
[2:23:31] Speaker 9: Giannis was injured all last year.
[2:23:34] Speaker 2: In the playoffs.
[2:23:35] Speaker 3: He didn't play.
[2:23:35] Speaker 4: This don't count as the playoffs. We're talking about the
[2:23:37] Speaker 4: regular season. His record is, we're talking about the regular season.
[2:23:40] Speaker 2: He was. No, we're not talking about, this ain't a
[2:23:42] Speaker 2: playoff record.
[2:23:43] Speaker 9: I just threw out the playoffs, but he was injured
[2:23:44] Speaker 9: before that.
[2:23:45] Speaker 6: We're talking about the 43 games.
[2:23:47] Speaker 2: These men done played 38 of them.
[2:23:49] Speaker 3: It don't matter, man.
[2:23:50] Speaker 2: It do matter.
[2:23:51] Speaker 6: If they didn't, if they did, if they was hurt,
[2:23:53] Speaker 6: if they was hurt, I get it.
[2:23:55] Speaker 2: But they're healthy. These are healthy stars, not hurt stars. No.
[2:24:02] Speaker 2: We're talking about healthy.
[2:24:04] Speaker 3: Healthy stars.
[2:24:05] Speaker 2: We've never seen this before.
[2:24:06] Speaker 4: We are winning five.
[2:24:07] Speaker 6: We're never seeing a healthy star, a team with two
[2:24:10] Speaker 6: healthy stars that has this record ever.
[2:24:13] Speaker 5: The Bucks ain't been this bad since I left.
[2:24:14] Speaker 3: Come on, man. Ever.
[2:24:16] Speaker 9: Two healthy stars with nothing else, and you're playing against Boston,
[2:24:19] Speaker 9: you're playing against these teams.
[2:24:21] Speaker 3: That's going to happen.
[2:24:22] Speaker 2: We've never seen it.
[2:24:23] Speaker 9: Because there's many people that ain't been as good in
[2:24:26] Speaker 9: the league.
[2:24:27] Speaker 3: God damn it. That's why.
[2:24:29] Speaker 2: We've never seen it.
[2:24:30] Speaker 4: Of course we ain't seen it.
[2:24:32] Speaker 3: We ain't seen it. You ain't seen it. You got
[2:24:34] Speaker 3: a team with.
[2:24:35] Speaker 9: Jason Taylor playing the four.
[2:24:37] Speaker 3: You got Brown.
[2:24:38] Speaker 9: You got another team with fucking Paul George and Tyrese Maxey.
[2:24:43] Speaker 2: They're ranked 25th.
[2:24:44] Speaker 3: Yes, you playing against these type of people every night.
[2:24:46] Speaker 3: Of course.
[2:24:47] Speaker 6: Think about the teams that are ranked 25th right now
[2:24:52] Speaker 6: in the last 43 games with Doc. Now think about
[2:24:55] Speaker 6: the teams that's going to.
[2:24:55] Speaker 4: Be in front of them. Do they have a Dame
[2:24:58] Speaker 4: and a Giannis on their team?
[2:25:01] Speaker 2: Who is 24? You think they got a Dame and
[2:25:03] Speaker 2: a Giannis? No.
[2:25:04] Speaker 9: That means there's the Wizards down there.
[2:25:09] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:25:09] Speaker 2: The Wizards.
[2:25:10] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:25:10] Speaker 2: You're talking about Memphis. The Hurt Memphis. Right? They're down there.
[2:25:14] Speaker 2: That means no job. They're down there.
[2:25:16] Speaker 3: We're talking about Charlotte.
[2:25:17] Speaker 2: No Lonzo Ball. They're down there. We're talking about Blazers. LaMelo. LaMelo.
[2:25:22] Speaker 2: We're talking about Blazers. No star. They're down there.
[2:25:26] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:25:26] Speaker 2: We're talking about... Shit. Detroit. Detroit. There's no Damien Yacht.
[2:25:33] Speaker 2: Those are the people that's beating them. That is embarrassing.
[2:25:38] Speaker 3: I didn't see this.
[2:25:41] Speaker 1: That's the only team that they're in front of.
[2:25:43] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:25:44] Speaker 2: That's horrible. I'm just sitting there.
[2:25:46] Speaker 5: Like, damn.
[2:25:47] Speaker 2: Think about the teams we're talking about. I'm sorry.
[2:25:51] Speaker 4: They could have had the fucking mascot coaching.
[2:25:53] Speaker 9: They get fucking 19 and 23.
[2:25:54] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 19 and 23.
[2:25:58] Speaker 3: They lost to Memphis.
[2:25:59] Speaker 4: I'm not talking about today. I'm talking about period. It's
[2:26:03] Speaker 4: only five games.
[2:26:04] Speaker 6: We're talking about the last. Listen, the last 43 games
[2:26:10] Speaker 6: of this man's coaching.
[2:26:12] Speaker 2: They are ranked 25th with this record.
[2:26:16] Speaker 4: 25th in the NBA.
[2:26:17] Speaker 3: So since Doc got there... Since.
[2:26:19] Speaker 2: Doc got there, in the last 45... So you're saying
[2:26:22] Speaker 2: this shit goes back... This goes back.
[2:26:23] Speaker 1: To last year.
[2:26:24] Speaker 2: They're ranked 25th.
[2:26:24] Speaker 1: Once he got the job.
[2:26:25] Speaker 3: Once he got the job.
[2:26:29] Speaker 5: Since he's been there, they are ranked.
[2:26:31] Speaker 6: They can coach themselves to be 19 and 23.
[2:26:33] Speaker 4: I'm not spending $ 40 million on it.
[2:26:37] Speaker 3: I'm not going against Doc.
[2:26:38] Speaker 4: $ 40 million to have 19 and 23 with them playing?
[2:26:43] Speaker 3: It's not Doc's fault. Who is it?
[2:26:45] Speaker 5: Who is it then?
[2:26:46] Speaker 3: Who is it? They're not healthy.
[2:26:48] Speaker 2: Who's not healthy? They've been there.
[2:26:50] Speaker 3: They ain't played like Dame. Talk about Dame. Have Dame
[2:26:54] Speaker 3: been Dame?
[2:26:55] Speaker 1: Yes.
[2:26:55] Speaker 3: All right. Now, okay.
[2:26:57] Speaker 9: This is first 40-point game y'all talking about.
[2:27:00] Speaker 2: First 40-point game.
[2:27:01] Speaker 9: In the last 43 games? In the Boston, whatever, the
[2:27:06] Speaker 9: Milwaukee Bucks uniform, he ain't been Dame in the Blazers.
[2:27:10] Speaker 1: Bucks currently have the worst record in the Eastern Conference,
[2:27:12] Speaker 1: one in five.
[2:27:13] Speaker 2: Okay.
[2:27:13] Speaker 3: They're ranked 29th. Blazers.
[2:27:16] Speaker 4: They're in 29 right now. Two new people only came.
[2:27:19] Speaker 2: Who?
[2:27:20] Speaker 9: Who? Two new people came to the team and you're
[2:27:24] Speaker 9: blaming the coach.
[2:27:25] Speaker 2: Who?
[2:27:25] Speaker 1: Who?
[2:27:25] Speaker 2: We're just poking.
[2:27:26] Speaker 3: Name is new. Doc is new. But Doc get the blame.
[2:27:30] Speaker 9: Name is new and Doc is.
[2:27:32] Speaker 3: Blue, but only Doc get the blame.
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: Because before Doc got there, they were 30 and 13.
[2:27:34] Speaker 3: Do you forget? They're 30 and 13.
[2:27:34] Speaker 2: So whatever you want to say.
[2:27:34] Speaker 4: before Doc got there, they were 30 and 13.
[2:27:36] Speaker 2: You can't take away 30 and 13.
[2:27:37] Speaker 3: Right? They're 30 and 13. They're second.
[2:27:38] Speaker 2: So whatever your excuse is... They don't get along. They
[2:27:54] Speaker 2: can't play. 30 and 13. And they fired that coach.
[2:27:59] Speaker 2: And then since then, 19 and 23. Since then.
[2:28:04] Speaker 5: So they only won 19.
[2:28:05] Speaker 6: So in the first 43 games, 30 and 13.
[2:28:07] Speaker 4: Since Doc's 43 games, 19 and 23.
[2:28:11] Speaker 3: Which ranks 23 and 24. And Dame lost to Indiana
[2:28:14] Speaker 3: in the playoffs. He lost to Hollenberg in the playoffs. Yeah,
[2:28:17] Speaker 3: there is an additional loss.
[2:28:18] Speaker 2: The playoffs, we ain't even talking about the playoffs. I'm saying,
[2:28:20] Speaker 2: that's who we are.
[2:28:20] Speaker 3: We should. That counts. That's the record, don't it?
[2:28:22] Speaker 2: No, that's not part of the record.
[2:28:23] Speaker 5: No, sir.
[2:28:24] Speaker 3: But still, they lost.
[2:28:26] Speaker 4: Shit, they ain't looking at 19 anymore.
[2:28:27] Speaker 2: 20 and fucking 27. It's now 19 and 25. 19
[2:28:28] Speaker 2: and 25.
[2:28:29] Speaker 3: Our most updated record. We found some extra losses.
[2:28:36] Speaker 2: Oh, God damn.
[2:28:37] Speaker 3: I'm going to help him out a little bit.
[2:28:40] Speaker 2: See, Doc's offense, he don't have it.
[2:28:45] Speaker 6: He is today's generation of standstill, right? He is the
[2:28:52] Speaker 6: type of coach that needs either the triangle or the Princeton.
[2:28:57] Speaker 6: And the reason you need those two is because the
[2:29:00] Speaker 6: other players on your team, like the triangle and the Princeton.
[2:29:04] Speaker 2: Is made for the team. It's made for the team,
[2:29:07] Speaker 2: to get the team moving.
[2:29:09] Speaker 4: So if you, like old UCLA, when UCLA was built,
[2:29:13] Speaker 4: it was built because they didn't have stars.
[2:29:15] Speaker 6: So we're going backdoor cut, and if you don't play
[2:29:17] Speaker 6: it right, these guys get these easy layups. Same thing
[2:29:20] Speaker 6: with the Princeton and the Triangle. We have guys moving,
[2:29:24] Speaker 6: so instead of Prince and all these guys sitting in
[2:29:26] Speaker 6: the corner waiting, y'all cut off slashes. Nobody guards them,
[2:29:29] Speaker 6: that's an easy lay. Now, when Giannis and them have
[2:29:31] Speaker 6: the ball, you can't really help. Because this guy's slashing through.
[2:29:36] Speaker 6: This guy's coming through.
[2:29:37] Speaker 4: It creates movement for the guys who don't usually get
[2:29:41] Speaker 4: the ball.
[2:29:42] Speaker 2: So now you have to play.
[2:29:43] Speaker 6: Full defense versus, okay, just Giannis is there. Are we
[2:29:47] Speaker 6: just going to sit him and watch him? He ain't
[2:29:49] Speaker 6: passing all the way over our heads. And that's what
[2:29:52] Speaker 6: really those two, that's what he.
[2:29:54] Speaker 2: Needs for his team. He needs to move the other
[2:29:56] Speaker 2: three people around.
[2:29:58] Speaker 3: So they can get easy lays, huh? Ain't they other
[2:30:00] Speaker 3: star player, third player? Chris Middleton. Yeah. Andrew. He's hurt.
[2:30:04] Speaker 9: I'm just saying, man. I'm not talking about Doc. Doc
[2:30:10] Speaker 9: won the championship. He beat Kobe. It's hard to beat Kobe.
[2:30:13] Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett beat Kobe.
[2:30:14] Speaker 3: No. And he beat LeBron James.
[2:30:17] Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett.
[2:30:17] Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen coached that team.
[2:30:21] Speaker 1: All the best they had on that team.
[2:30:22] Speaker 3: So basically, they're better than all these people he coached. Now.
[2:30:26] Speaker 1: Who?
[2:30:28] Speaker 3: KG, Paul, Joe. I mean, he better than.
[2:30:32] Speaker 9: Everybody coached lately from fucking MB, MB Trash.
[2:30:36] Speaker 3: He can't win it.
[2:30:39] Speaker 9: Fucking Chris Paul and the whole Blake Griffin.
[2:30:44] Speaker 3: Only KG could do it. It was only KG.
[2:30:47] Speaker 2: KG and Paul.
[2:30:47] Speaker 3: It was only KG. It was nobody else.
[2:30:50] Speaker 2: He got there.
[2:30:51] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, that shit sounds crazy.
[2:30:53] Speaker 2: He got there, KG and him.
[2:30:54] Speaker 9: When you win, it's just this player.
[2:30:56] Speaker 2: He didn't have his nails in that first year. What
[2:30:58] Speaker 2: happens when he got his nails in?
[2:30:59] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. How about this?
[2:31:02] Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you this. How about this?
[2:31:06] Speaker 6: Doc Rivers, out of all coaches that's ever coached, he
[2:31:14] Speaker 6: has coached the most Hall of Fame players in league history.
[2:31:20] Speaker 6: The most Hall of Fame players has played for Doc.
[2:31:28] Speaker 2: How many championships you got?
[2:31:30] Speaker 4: Okay.
[2:31:32] Speaker 2: Hey, man.
[2:31:33] Speaker 3: I believe. Real person.
[2:31:34] Speaker 5: Hey, man.
[2:31:34] Speaker 6: No, I'm just, because it's one of those things where, like, when.
[2:31:38] Speaker 3: Are we going to, like. You can't blame Doc all
[2:31:41] Speaker 3: the time.
[2:31:41] Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but if this was the other way around,
[2:31:44] Speaker 6: and the record started with Griffin at 19 and 25,
[2:31:49] Speaker 6: he would have been fucking fired.
[2:31:51] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:31:51] Speaker 6: They would have fired the fuck out that dude. Got
[2:31:54] Speaker 6: fired at 30 and 13. And then Doc comes in,
[2:31:56] Speaker 6: 30 and 13. Shit, coach, what are you a damn man?
[2:32:00] Speaker 6: What the hell of a turnaround? So how do you
[2:32:03] Speaker 6: fire 30 and 13 and then.
[2:32:07] Speaker 2: The next 43 games, you're 19 and 25, and there's nothing.
[2:32:11] Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
[2:32:13] Speaker 2: At some point, pride kicks in.
[2:32:15] Speaker 4: Fuck your pride. You got rid of Bud. Okay, you
[2:32:19] Speaker 4: fucked up.
[2:32:19] Speaker 2: You got rid of Griffin.
[2:32:20] Speaker 4: Okay, you fucked up.
[2:32:22] Speaker 6: But if you fire Doc right now, no one is
[2:32:25] Speaker 6: going to be like, ah, that was a bad fire.
[2:32:28] Speaker 3: Hey, man. At some point, you got to blame some players.
[2:32:30] Speaker 2: Because relationships is good.
[2:32:32] Speaker 9: At some point, you got to blame some players, too.
[2:32:34] Speaker 9: Can't blame Doc. I'm not blaming Doc for this.
[2:32:37] Speaker 2: So you're not blaming Doc for the Clippers?
[2:32:40] Speaker 9: They lost off a game-winner by two and a half.
[2:32:44] Speaker 9: Paul George didn't make a shot in the playoffs. Playoff
[2:32:47] Speaker 9: P didn't show up. He had zero points. Hall of
[2:32:50] Speaker 9: Famer had zero or three points. That's Doc's fault.
[2:32:53] Speaker 3: Can you leave me in the arena? I saw Paul
[2:32:55] Speaker 3: by this conversation. That's Doc's fault. Saw Paul. He's appalled
[2:32:58] Speaker 3: by this combo.
[2:32:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to bounce in a minute.
[2:33:01] Speaker 3: Okay. You can't blame Doc for that.
[2:33:04] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Just game. Was it game six? What
[2:33:07] Speaker 2: was that, Denver?
[2:33:08] Speaker 3: He took game seven.
[2:33:10] Speaker 4: Game seven.
[2:33:11] Speaker 3: Game seven.
[2:33:11] Speaker 9: Kawhi hit a bounce around the rim three.
[2:33:15] Speaker 3: 3-1. That's his fault.
[2:33:16] Speaker 2: 3-1, and he decided he was going to golf and
[2:33:18] Speaker 2: have fun at the golf course.
[2:33:20] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's move on to Mostly Fans.
[2:33:22] Speaker 4: True story.
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[2:33:29] Speaker 2: Man, they said Doc got some good relationships.
[2:33:31] Speaker 3: Is he fucking you, boy?
[2:33:33] Speaker 2: What's up? Come on.
[2:33:34] Speaker 3: You over here. I'm just saying, man.
[2:33:36] Speaker 1: The way you jumping for Doc.
[2:33:39] Speaker 2: I've never heard you over here with the Doc. I
[2:33:42] Speaker 2: just thought about it, man. I'm about to post it.
[2:33:44] Speaker 3: I'm about to post it.
[2:33:46] Speaker 2: Well, goddamn. You've been on P.S. I'm just saying.
[2:33:50] Speaker 3: You've been on P.S.
[2:33:51] Speaker 2: I got it. I mean, come on. Goddamn.
[2:33:53] Speaker 1: Damn.
[2:33:53] Speaker 2: Amen. When did you become a dog fan? Oh, I'm
[2:33:56] Speaker 2: a coach.
[2:33:57] Speaker 3: I don't let slander like that shit happen.
[2:34:00] Speaker 1: We have Brother Pete. I mean, okay. But first question,
[2:34:03] Speaker 1: my underdog user, 14flat. The question is for you, Mr.
[2:34:06] Speaker 1: Trillo G. Did the NFL Jay-Z get it right picking
[2:34:08] Speaker 1: Kendrick over Lil Wayne for the Super Bowl halftime show?
[2:34:11] Speaker 2: That I can't really speak to because I don't know
[2:34:14] Speaker 2: what exactly they're trying to get accomplished with that halftime show.
[2:34:19] Speaker 2: I understand the idea of New Orleans being mad that
[2:34:22] Speaker 2: their own won't be on that stage. That's a legitimate beef.
[2:34:27] Speaker 2: But just like Gil said, man, a lot of these
[2:34:29] Speaker 2: things are relational. A lot of these things are relational.
[2:34:32] Speaker 2: I don't know what relationship Hov has with Wayne or
[2:34:37] Speaker 2: with Kendrick. I know that Hov is at the top
[2:34:41] Speaker 2: of making this decision, but I'm sure there are people
[2:34:45] Speaker 2: that argue for And against certain things. So whoever's opinions
[2:34:50] Speaker 2: he trusts, I'm sure it helped him come to this decision.
[2:34:53] Speaker 2: I don't think it's just Jay-Z at the top talking
[2:34:55] Speaker 2: about that person needed to do it. I think it's
[2:34:57] Speaker 2: a conversation of who potentially could do it. You put
[2:35:01] Speaker 2: them all on the table. You take the pluses and
[2:35:03] Speaker 2: the minuses of what you're trying to get done. I
[2:35:06] Speaker 2: don't know if sponsorship things come into this. If one
[2:35:10] Speaker 2: person is sponsored by this company, like I'm sponsored by
[2:35:13] Speaker 2: a company. So if somebody wants me to come to
[2:35:16] Speaker 2: an event and it's sponsored by this other company, I
[2:35:19] Speaker 2: can't attend. I can't be a part of it. And
[2:35:22] Speaker 2: I don't really know what kind of hoops you got
[2:35:23] Speaker 2: to jump through for the NFL, but I would imagine
[2:35:27] Speaker 2: the vetting system for that motherfucker is pretty heavy. I
[2:35:30] Speaker 2: do a lot of shit with the MLB, with the Astros.
[2:35:33] Speaker 2: Other teams try to replicate it, but the artists they
[2:35:36] Speaker 2: get don't pass the vetting process. So they can't even
[2:35:39] Speaker 2: do the shit like they would want to do. So
[2:35:41] Speaker 2: it may be somebody on the NFL side from a
[2:35:45] Speaker 2: sponsorship level that may be like, you know what? I
[2:35:48] Speaker 2: don't think that's going to work for us because our
[2:35:50] Speaker 2: brand is about this. We're sponsoring part of the sponsorship
[2:35:54] Speaker 2: for this. And we don't want to be. I don't
[2:35:55] Speaker 2: know what motherfuckers think about it. You know, but I do.
[2:35:59] Speaker 2: I do know that New Orleans, they got a right
[2:36:01] Speaker 2: to be mad. They got a right to be mad.
[2:36:04] Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I think I should have been mad
[2:36:05] Speaker 2: last time that motherfucker came through Houston. I might need
[2:36:08] Speaker 2: to be upset about it.
[2:36:10] Speaker 4: One of the football players, Gerald, he said, the.
[2:36:16] Speaker 2: People that's going to be there won't be New Orleans. No,
[2:36:21] Speaker 2: it's the Super Bowl. And that's a fact, right? Very
[2:36:23] Speaker 2: few of the people in the whole city actually get
[2:36:26] Speaker 2: to go and see the game in person. The Super
[2:36:31] Speaker 2: Bowl halftime show, realistically, ain't even for the motherfuckers in
[2:36:35] Speaker 2: the building. The Super Bowl halftime show is for the world.
[2:36:39] Speaker 2: This is one of the most viewed sporting events, one
[2:36:42] Speaker 2: of the most viewed events, period, in the world. So
[2:36:46] Speaker 2: I think they're going by that as opposed to the
[2:36:49] Speaker 2: whole city because Super Bowls go to cities that ain't
[2:36:52] Speaker 2: fly like that. You know, I'm just I'm just being real. Look,
[2:36:57] Speaker 2: I don't want to start shitting on you. But a
[2:37:01] Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, if you ain't a weed smoker, Denver Broncos,
[2:37:04] Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, Denver Super Bowl might not be your cup
[2:37:07] Speaker 2: of tea. They'll probably be cold. You know what I'm saying?
[2:37:10] Speaker 2: Ain't going to be turnt up like that. You know
[2:37:12] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Now, you do have legalized marijuana, but
[2:37:15] Speaker 2: that's a plus. But a lot of these motherfuckers is
[2:37:17] Speaker 2: legalized now. So what used to be cool about certain
[2:37:21] Speaker 2: cities is just regular at this point. I think both
[2:37:24] Speaker 2: of them are great entertainers. I think both of them
[2:37:26] Speaker 2: could do a great show, but I think those are
[2:37:28] Speaker 2: two totally different. performances. And Wayne is like, he's real
[2:37:34] Speaker 2: loose with it, right? Not in the performance, but the
[2:37:36] Speaker 2: kind of shit he talks about. Kendrick is a lot
[2:37:38] Speaker 2: safer for national consumption, for worldwide consumption. Because Wayne's lyrics
[2:37:44] Speaker 2: are going to be talking about certain things. Kendrick don't
[2:37:46] Speaker 2: talk about those things in that manner. And this is
[2:37:49] Speaker 2: a TV concert. That's the other thing. This is a
[2:37:52] Speaker 2: TV concert. This is going around the world. So I
[2:37:55] Speaker 2: can see where people might want to be hesitant to
[2:37:58] Speaker 2: let certain people get on the stage.
[2:38:00] Speaker 3: Look at L.A.
[2:38:01] Speaker 2: There's a lot of rappers from L.A. that didn't get
[2:38:02] Speaker 2: to touch that Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying?
[2:38:04] Speaker 2: They're great artists, but they might be connected to something
[2:38:07] Speaker 2: the Super Bowl don't want to represent. That's how that
[2:38:10] Speaker 2: shit goes.
[2:38:11] Speaker 5: Yo, how did you convince Jay-Z to get on Get Thrown?
[2:38:16] Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we had already worked together. I got
[2:38:19] Speaker 2: on his shit, you know? So it was just a
[2:38:22] Speaker 2: matter of, you know, trying to get him to get
[2:38:24] Speaker 2: on my shit.
[2:38:24] Speaker 1: Now, it took time.
[2:38:26] Speaker 2: It's a different week. Yeah, no, no, not Get Thrown. No, no,
[2:38:30] Speaker 2: let me tell you this. Jay-Z is a big fan of, like,
[2:38:32] Speaker 2: Southern hip-hop, and so he get it. And he liked
[2:38:35] Speaker 2: the challenge of that type of shit, too. And in
[2:38:38] Speaker 2: the South... Our connection with Hov at the time we
[2:38:43] Speaker 2: did Big Pimpin' wasn't that strong. He was a big deal,
[2:38:46] Speaker 2: but not necessarily where we were. So when you put
[2:38:50] Speaker 2: basically him, who's got all these big entry points in
[2:38:54] Speaker 2: all these major cities, we picked up a lot of
[2:38:56] Speaker 2: the small, medium markets and it allowed everybody to be
[2:39:00] Speaker 2: a part of this shit.
[2:39:03] Speaker 1: Bun B, Trill OG, we appreciate you pulling up. You know,
[2:39:06] Speaker 1: you got to bring some Trill burgers with you next time, obviously.
[2:39:11] Speaker 2: With cheese.
[2:39:12] Speaker 3: With cheese.
[2:39:13] Speaker 2: With cheese.
[2:39:14] Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody on the couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat
[2:39:16] Speaker 1: for tapping in with us on this Monday. Another episode
[2:39:18] Speaker 1: of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:39:20] Speaker 2: We'll see you all tomorrow.

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