# Victor Wembanyama Just HIJACKED The NBA MVP Race

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 2 Apr 2026, 2 h 00 min.

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Victor Wembanyama Just HIJACKED The NBA MVP Race according to Gil's Arena as the Gil's Arena Crew react to another out of this world performance from Wemby as the San Antonio Spurs superstar dropped back to back 40 point double doubles to continue to make his case as the best player in the NBA this season. They debate if Wemby's hot streak to end the season has done enough to push him ahead of Shai Gilgeous Alexander for the league's highest honor and discuss how far the alien can carry his young & inexperienced team in the NBA Playoffs. Next, they continue their conversation on the Boston Celtics as Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown continue to prove the Celtics are a force to be reckoned with heading into the NBA Playoffs and debate if the Jays are clearly the best superstar duo in the league. Finally, they react to the Detroit Pistons keeping their head above water as they play without Cade Cunningham, discussing if the team being without their superstar is actually a good thing heading into the NBA Playoffs before breaking down the league's proposed anti-tanking rules, sparking a debate on if Adam Silver & the league's top brass are making a bigger deal out of tanking than it needs to be. PLEASE Give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! VOTE THE ARENA FOR BEST SPORTS PODCAST - https://shortyawards.com/vote/ Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:56 Golden Egg Hunt 0:05:13 Wizards Pull Hostile Prank On A Fan 0:05:50 Wemby Continues His MVP Campaign 0:11:32 The Spurs Ceiling With Wemby 0:35:05 Wemby's Take On NBA Defense 0:45:42 The Celtics Look Dangerous 1:12:33 Klay's Advice To Tatum 1:31:08 Pistons Are Rolling Without Cade 1:37:36 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa.
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[0:14] Speaker 2: feeling today?
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[0:23] Speaker 1: First time. She's been on spring break for two weeks. Man. Damn,
[0:29] Speaker 1: two weeks? Hell yeah. Paying all that money to go
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[0:50] Speaker 2: We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P. Nick
[0:53] Speaker 2: Young back over here.
[0:57] Speaker 3: I like that they gave me the blue dog.
[1:01] Speaker 1: Like the blue.
[1:06] Speaker 2: Next to Swaggy, NBA champion of the world, the man
[1:09] Speaker 2: known as Cemetery Larry, Dr. Rashad McCamp's PhD.
[1:18] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That was easy. Don't forget. Where is it
[1:23] Speaker 1: coming from? There's no button. It's okay. Okay.
[1:26] Speaker 3: It is a button.
[1:26] Speaker 2: That's the button. Last but not least, we got the
[1:34] Speaker 2: distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin,
[1:38] Speaker 2: back in the arena with.
[1:45] Speaker 1: Us.
[1:47] Speaker 2: We got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking
[1:50] Speaker 2: in Gil's arena today. Wimby continued making his MVP case
[1:55] Speaker 2: with his second straight 40-point double-double. How far away is
[1:59] Speaker 2: the alien from being the best player in the league?
[2:03] Speaker 2: The Jays took their talents to South Beach, delivered a
[2:06] Speaker 2: pair of dominant performances. Do the Celtics have the most
[2:09] Speaker 2: dangerous duo in the league right now? Out here doing it.
[2:12] Speaker 2: Shout out Jason Tatum. Looking very good. Coming back from
[2:15] Speaker 2: that Achilles. And the Pistons have been holding down the
[2:17] Speaker 2: top spot in the East without Cade Cunningham. But is
[2:20] Speaker 2: Detroit still the team to beat? Jalen Dern been playing
[2:23] Speaker 2: very well. Kade should be coming back for the playoffs.
[2:27] Speaker 2: We'll see what's what. But before we get into all that,
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[3:55] Speaker 2: Wizards have been looking like fools all season with the
[3:59] Speaker 2: worst record in the league, headed for their third straight
[4:02] Speaker 2: 60-loss season. Wednesday was no different, as the team opted
[4:05] Speaker 2: to play a very questionable April Fool's prank on one
[4:08] Speaker 2: unsuspecting fan, or so we thought. So, let's take a
[4:11] Speaker 2: look at the video, if we can, please.
[4:13] Speaker 1: So... The Wizards gave.
[4:15] Speaker 2: The fan a chance to win 10,000 racks if he
[4:17] Speaker 2: could hit a blindfolded half-court shot. As expected, the fan
[4:20] Speaker 2: missed badly, but the team pretended like he made the
[4:23] Speaker 2: shot as the mascots on the court celebrated with him.
[4:27] Speaker 2: So the fan was then handed a big $ 10, 000 check
[4:29] Speaker 2: and shown a replay of the shot, which obviously did
[4:32] Speaker 2: not go in, where he realized he had been the
[4:34] Speaker 2: victim of a prank, was not actually getting the $ 10, 000.
[4:38] Speaker 2: So according to reports, the fan did end up getting
[4:40] Speaker 2: an autographed jersey and some courtside seats for next season.
[4:44] Speaker 2: But it turns out there was some tomfoolery amongst us.
[4:46] Speaker 2: So in response to the backlash the prank received, the
[4:49] Speaker 2: Wizards put out the following statement today. They said, we
[4:53] Speaker 2: apologize for last night's April Fool's joke that left many
[4:55] Speaker 2: wondering if we had misled a fan. The skit involving
[4:58] Speaker 2: our mascot and other members of our performance team was
[5:01] Speaker 2: scripted and intended to celebrate the day. All participants were
[5:04] Speaker 2: in on the joke, but we missed the mark. Our
[5:07] Speaker 2: fans are our priority, and we continue to be committed
[5:09] Speaker 2: to providing a positive experience to all who attend our games.
[5:15] Speaker 4: The Wizards don't even know how to have fun.
[5:18] Speaker 3: Look at them. They don't know how to do shit right.
[5:20] Speaker 5: What can't they do right? Mascot got his ass whooped.
[5:27] Speaker 2: Wizards have not released a statement apologizing for letting Bam
[5:29] Speaker 2: put up 83 on their head. But was the Wizards'
[5:33] Speaker 2: April Fool's prank foul or funny, Swaggy? A former Wizard
[5:36] Speaker 2: here in the building with a.
[5:37] Speaker 4: Hell no. They better pay fans to go to the games.
[5:42] Speaker 4: Give them the hell... You see how empty that whole
[5:46] Speaker 4: first team rose was? They playing a joke and it's
[5:50] Speaker 4: five people in the crowd. That's crazy. All the people
[5:56] Speaker 4: that was at the game was on the court.
[5:57] Speaker 1: Who's laughing?
[5:58] Speaker 3: Who you playing the jokes on?
[6:00] Speaker 5: Who are you playing the joke on yourself?
[6:04] Speaker 4: That's how you know you crazy when you start playing
[6:06] Speaker 4: April Fool jokes on yourself.
[6:09] Speaker 1: Wizards trying to enjoy the day. Obviously been a very
[6:11] Speaker 1: tough season. They already are April Fools all year.
[6:15] Speaker 2: Got smacked by the Sixers. PG put up what? All
[6:18] Speaker 2: year it's been April Fools. That was the Wizards. April
[6:23] Speaker 2: Fools prank foul or funny. A lot of backlash on
[6:25] Speaker 2: the internet. A lot of people were not feeling the joke.
[6:28] Speaker 2: And then after they said it was a skit, still
[6:30] Speaker 2: not feeling it. People still don't believe that that fan
[6:33] Speaker 2: was not a real fan.
[6:35] Speaker 5: Shit, it's better than the work not showing up for work.
[6:40] Speaker 5: And then posting a picture with some other nigga that
[6:44] Speaker 5: hired her. So shit, I was more traumatized than that.
[6:47] Speaker 5: That ain't nothing. Reservations and all kinds of shit.
[6:52] Speaker 3: I was all in too.
[6:53] Speaker 1: Flowers and shit. God damn, man. Yeah, that ain't nothing.
[6:56] Speaker 1: That ain't nothing. Shit. It's just a blank check. The
[7:09] Speaker 1: question marks on it.
[7:10] Speaker 2: The last one, obviously, we know that it's a skit now,
[7:13] Speaker 2: but was the Wizards April Fool's Day prank foul or funny?
[7:18] Speaker 1: It's funny. It's April Fool's. You got to... That man
[7:20] Speaker 1: know he didn't make that shit. Like, if he was
[7:23] Speaker 1: in on it or not. Like, you know he ain't
[7:26] Speaker 1: had a chance of hell making that shot. So... What
[7:29] Speaker 1: if he did make it, though? That's the real question. Yeah.
[7:32] Speaker 1: I don't want my 10K. I don't give a fuck.
[7:34] Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm talking about, yo, I made that bitch. Yeah,
[7:37] Speaker 1: but nah, it's... It's a joke, man. It is what
[7:40] Speaker 1: it is. People are oversensitive these days, man. Like, people
[7:45] Speaker 1: overreact and they are very sensitive to everything. Do nothing,
[7:51] Speaker 1: say nothing, can't be nowhere, can't go. Like, listen, man. Yeah.
[7:59] Speaker 1: I'm glad I grew up in there where I grew
[8:00] Speaker 1: up in, but you have to have thick skin, man.
[8:03] Speaker 2: People were not feeling the joke. A lot of people responded. Basically,
[8:07] Speaker 2: bully the Wizards into releasing that statement.
[8:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. Yeah, it was like, no. They lost fans?
[8:11] Speaker 3: Hmm?
[8:12] Speaker 1: They lost fans because of it? Man, they didn't have
[8:14] Speaker 1: many to begin with. Like, it's your statement. Shit, there
[8:16] Speaker 1: you are.
[8:17] Speaker 3: Did you see that whole, bro?
[8:19] Speaker 1: Three seasons in a row, you done lost 60-plus games? Bro,
[8:22] Speaker 1: there ain't nothing to cheer for out there, bitch. They
[8:24] Speaker 1: need some laughs. They need some good faith. You know
[8:28] Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
[8:29] Speaker 3: No.
[8:29] Speaker 1: So, April Fool's, it's a joke.
[8:32] Speaker 3: How much them tickets is, C.E.
[8:34] Speaker 4: Man paid the tickets to go see the Wizards.
[8:38] Speaker 2: $ 12.
[8:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, $ 12 to $ 18. That's shit.
[8:40] Speaker 3: Come on down.
[8:43] Speaker 1: They called them from the 300s.
[8:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an In-N-Out burger.
[8:47] Speaker 4: I'd rather eat In-N-Out than watch the Wizards for sure.
[8:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:51] Speaker 2: It's a good combo. You'd rather eat In-N-Out. What if
[8:54] Speaker 2: the Wizards are playing the Lakers? Did you watch that game?
[8:58] Speaker 3: 60.
[8:59] Speaker 5: It was adorable. Luka had 60. Nah, he didn't play
[9:03] Speaker 5: that game. I thought he had 60. Look, look, look.
[9:06] Speaker 5: That was Miami at 60. I'm about to say, 83, 60? Yeah,
[9:09] Speaker 5: that was Miami.
[9:10] Speaker 2: Luke was suspended for the game against the Wizards this
[9:13] Speaker 2: past week.
[9:13] Speaker 3: He was waiting on that game. Everybody's waiting on them games.
[9:16] Speaker 3: If you get some Wizards, you can get 50 on them.
[9:19] Speaker 3: I'm sure he was mad. You can get your numbers
[9:21] Speaker 3: on them. God damn.
[9:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be suspended for the Wizards game. Yeah,
[9:24] Speaker 1: that's bad business. Go for 84.
[9:25] Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Bring balance back.
[9:28] Speaker 1: All right.
[9:28] Speaker 3: All right, well.
[9:31] Speaker 1: Good April Fool's discussion.
[9:32] Speaker 2: Let's get on to some actual real basketball. Spurs were
[9:35] Speaker 2: back in action Wednesday on the road against the Warriors
[9:38] Speaker 2: as Wimby continued his campaign for his first MVP with
[9:41] Speaker 2: San Antonio looking for their 10th straight win. Spurs entered
[9:44] Speaker 2: the matchup with four straight road wins by 25-plus points,
[9:48] Speaker 2: which is the longest streak in NBA history. The Warriors
[9:51] Speaker 2: were shorthanded to say the least, missing nine rotation players
[9:54] Speaker 2: in the game, including Chef Curry, and the alien took
[9:57] Speaker 2: advantage to make Golden State look like some April Fools
[10:00] Speaker 2: as well. Let's take a look at the highlights, if
[10:02] Speaker 2: we can. When we got to work early and often,
[10:04] Speaker 2: scoring 10 points in the first four minutes of game action.
[10:08] Speaker 2: He put up 17 points, nine boards in the first
[10:11] Speaker 2: 10 minutes. quarter alone.
[10:12] Speaker 1: Look at this lineup. Man, that's just nasty.
[10:15] Speaker 2: They had dudes shooting left-handed. It was all types of
[10:17] Speaker 2: shit going on.
[10:18] Speaker 1: Happened to the Wizards.
[10:19] Speaker 3: Wrist injuries.
[10:20] Speaker 1: You know, life to the Wizards.
[10:22] Speaker 3: For real.
[10:24] Speaker 2: For those that prayed on their downfall, your prayers have
[10:26] Speaker 2: been answered. Alien finished the first half with 27 and
[10:29] Speaker 2: 13 in just 17 minutes. Wimby continued to cook the
[10:33] Speaker 2: dubs in the second half while making history in the process.
[10:37] Speaker 2: Wimby put up 41 points, 18 rebounds, and three blocks.
[10:40] Speaker 2: He was 6-for-22 from the field in 29 minutes. Wimby
[10:44] Speaker 2: is the first player in Spurs history with back-to-back 40-point double-doubles.
[10:50] Speaker 1: Oh, you see it.
[10:52] Speaker 2: After coming through with 41-16 boards and three blocks against
[10:54] Speaker 2: the Bulls on Monday, San Antonio got their 10th straight win,
[10:58] Speaker 2: improving to a league best 26-2 since February 1st. And
[11:04] Speaker 2: 15-0 in the last 15 games that Wimby's played in.
[11:07] Speaker 2: So after the game, Wimby pulled up to SportsCenter with
[11:09] Speaker 2: Scott Van Pelt. SVP asked Wimby how important it was
[11:12] Speaker 2: to him to be recognized as the best player in
[11:14] Speaker 2: the league, and he offered this response.
[11:16] Speaker 6: I think that all the greats, you know, that are
[11:19] Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame or that are in our
[11:20] Speaker 6: mind the best of all time, they have fought and
[11:24] Speaker 6: grabbed everything they could grab early on in their career,
[11:28] Speaker 6: you know. And if I want to make my spot
[11:30] Speaker 6: among the greats, I got to try to not miss
[11:33] Speaker 6: any occasion I have to put my name up there.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Begging again.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, Spurs are 15-0 the last 15 games
[11:43] Speaker 2: that Wimby's played. In those 15 games, French Phenom averaging
[11:47] Speaker 2: 28 points, 12 rebounds, nearly four blocks, league-leading, plus 269,
[11:52] Speaker 2: all while playing less than 30 minutes per game. So
[11:56] Speaker 2: Wimby missed out on adding some individual accolades to his
[11:58] Speaker 2: resume last year when the season was prematurely ended by injury.
[12:02] Speaker 2: He talked about how dealing with that injury changed his
[12:04] Speaker 2: perspective on life and on his career. I just heard
[12:08] Speaker 2: you say Wimby out here begging again. What are your
[12:09] Speaker 2: thoughts on Wimby continuing to let it be known that
[12:12] Speaker 2: he wants to be the best player in the league?
[12:15] Speaker 4: I think it's time to start letting this game do
[12:17] Speaker 4: the talking. You know, just continue to. He's doing what
[12:21] Speaker 4: he's doing. But at some point, you.
[12:26] Speaker 3: Know, we get it. We get it.
[12:28] Speaker 5: You know, it's time to just get ready for the playoffs.
[12:35] Speaker 1: Shut up.
[12:36] Speaker 3: Win.
[12:36] Speaker 1: Win.
[12:37] Speaker 4: And then that'll do the talking for you. But what
[12:40] Speaker 4: he's doing is, I'm shocked. I didn't know Tim Duncan
[12:43] Speaker 4: never had a back-to-back 40-point game.
[12:45] Speaker 1: 40-point double-double. Oh, double-double.
[12:48] Speaker 3: Oh, damn.
[12:49] Speaker 1: First player in Spurs history.
[12:50] Speaker 3: First player in Spurs history. That's dope. It's the only
[12:54] Speaker 3: way to be the best Spur. All right. Y'all want
[13:00] Speaker 3: to give him everything else. Might as well.
[13:03] Speaker 1: Are you done?
[13:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:04] Speaker 1: Okay.
[13:06] Speaker 3: The best Spurs ever.
[13:09] Speaker 1: I was good.
[13:11] Speaker 5: Beg for it. You did well. We practiced that. You
[13:15] Speaker 5: did well. You didn't stutter or nothing.
[13:17] Speaker 3: Keep begging.
[13:18] Speaker 1: You going to do it like this?
[13:21] Speaker 3: No more begging. Playing against the West Coast Wizards.
[13:24] Speaker 5: I ain't too proud to beg, Nick. The West Coast Wizards.
[13:27] Speaker 5: You ain't never heard the song, huh? It was number
[13:30] Speaker 5: one in the country for.
[13:32] Speaker 1: A long time.
[13:33] Speaker 5: I'm tired of the begging. I ain't too proud to beg, no. Yeah,
[13:38] Speaker 5: I'm proud of Wimby, shit. It takes a lot to
[13:41] Speaker 5: get the ears of the people out there voting, you know?
[13:45] Speaker 5: Just like campaigning when you're a president, right? At some point,
[13:50] Speaker 5: they have to vote. You gotta be out there, you
[13:53] Speaker 5: gotta be out there in their ears, in their face.
[13:56] Speaker 1: Chucking and jiving. You gotta be chucking and jiving. Them
[13:59] Speaker 1: big ass feet, they gotta be. Like Mumba, you think
[14:02] Speaker 1: he'll do that? No, he wouldn't do that. All right, then.
[14:06] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. What if he was French?
[14:08] Speaker 3: No, he didn't do that.
[14:09] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
[14:10] Speaker 5: No, he didn't do that. But, you know, he did
[14:13] Speaker 5: what he had to do. He did what he had
[14:15] Speaker 5: to do, right? So he's doing what he has to do.
[14:19] Speaker 5: And that's what I love about Wimby. Whatever it takes,
[14:23] Speaker 5: let's go get it. Go get those voters. Go tell them, hey, listen,
[14:29] Speaker 5: they ain't doing what I do. Go watch the film.
[14:32] Speaker 5: Go see what they're doing and go see what I'm doing.
[14:35] Speaker 1: It's different.
[14:37] Speaker 3: I'm the real Santa Claus.
[14:39] Speaker 1: It's one thing to talk about it.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Obviously, he's been campaigning, made his case for MVP recently.
[14:43] Speaker 2: He was asked by SVP about this and his desire
[14:46] Speaker 2: to be the best player in the world. But what
[14:48] Speaker 2: he's doing right now with the Spurs squad, the way
[14:50] Speaker 2: they're surging 26-2, like we mentioned, 15-0 in the last
[14:53] Speaker 2: 15 games he's played.
[14:54] Speaker 1: You said 15-0?
[14:57] Speaker 2: In the last 15 games, Wimby's played. Wimby did duck
[15:00] Speaker 2: a Jokic, and they lost to the Nuggets.
[15:02] Speaker 1: Some are reporting. He did not play in the game. 15-0.
[15:06] Speaker 1: Got the Jokic flu.
[15:07] Speaker 3: And lost.
[15:08] Speaker 1: Damn, that's crazy. 26-2, one of those losses. Would you
[15:10] Speaker 1: say that plus minus was? 269 in the last 15
[15:15] Speaker 1: games that Wimby's played. You missed that 16. It might have.
[15:19] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Whew. But shift over to this side.
[15:25] Speaker 2: Kane, what are your thoughts on Wimby continuing to let
[15:28] Speaker 2: it be known that he wants to be the best
[15:29] Speaker 2: player in the world?
[15:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, if he's asked questions, I expect him to
[15:34] Speaker 1: answer with his true feelings. That question had nothing to
[15:40] Speaker 1: do with what the other campaign was. Yeah, he's talking
[15:47] Speaker 1: about being great. And you got to start somewhere, right?
[15:54] Speaker 1: And for the campaigning, right, I think it's more on
[15:58] Speaker 1: the team. The team should be doing it. The team
[16:02] Speaker 1: should be the ones with commercials and different things like that. Yeah.
[16:11] Speaker 1: So I think that falls on the team. But since
[16:15] Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything, I think he feels that it's
[16:19] Speaker 1: on him to campaign for himself and his game. This
[16:24] Speaker 1: game has been speaking for itself. He has been playing
[16:27] Speaker 1: well all season and as of late. You know, they're
[16:31] Speaker 1: going to be a force to be reckoned with for
[16:35] Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. Young core. And he's leading that. So
[16:44] Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where else he goes, what other
[16:47] Speaker 1: accolades that he could put on his shelf other than
[16:50] Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year because we know that's going
[16:52] Speaker 1: to be a staple for him. somebody's going to have
[16:58] Speaker 1: to do something amazing to take that award away from
[17:00] Speaker 1: him I don't know what that's going to entail but
[17:05] Speaker 1: people don't seem to have voters fatigue with that though
[17:08] Speaker 1: but they do with other things but it's neither there
[17:13] Speaker 1: nor there but yeah nah he's been doing what he
[17:16] Speaker 1: has to and like I said I'm excited to see
[17:18] Speaker 1: what else is in store for the young man moving forward.
[17:24] Speaker 2: So But 22 years old, I think, wise beyond his years,
[17:28] Speaker 2: trained with Shaolin monks, worked with Akeem, KG, all the
[17:33] Speaker 2: stuff he's been doing. Like we mentioned, had that blood
[17:34] Speaker 2: clot last season. That cost him a potential defensive player
[17:39] Speaker 2: of the year last year. I mean, is it good
[17:41] Speaker 2: to see him displaying these leadership qualities at such a
[17:43] Speaker 2: young age? Or just, Nick, are you starting to get
[17:46] Speaker 2: tired of it already?
[17:48] Speaker 3: Already.
[17:51] Speaker 1: Tired. Tired.
[17:53] Speaker 3: He's great.
[17:54] Speaker 4: He's going to be great. I feel like we're trying
[17:56] Speaker 4: to give everything to.
[17:57] Speaker 5: Him too early. And it's a lot of him talking now.
[18:03] Speaker 4: Doing all that, I love when he did the workout
[18:07] Speaker 4: with Crawford, the monk thing. I loved all that, but
[18:11] Speaker 4: now I feel like the media is baiting him into
[18:17] Speaker 4: answering these type of questions about the MVP race because
[18:21] Speaker 4: he's young and Already outspoken, he talked about he gonna
[18:26] Speaker 4: change the All-Star games, you know.
[18:30] Speaker 3: But this type of stuff, you gotta, you know.
[18:34] Speaker 1: Come on, man. Who your favorite player?
[18:36] Speaker 4: I can't wait for the next Ant-Man commercial. I guarantee
[18:40] Speaker 4: it'll be about him begging. Is that your favorite player?
[18:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. He ain't what?
[18:45] Speaker 3: He ain't begging.
[18:46] Speaker 1: He didn't?
[18:47] Speaker 5: No, he ain't begging for no reason. Do you remember
[18:48] Speaker 5: the starting five shit that was on Netflix? You didn't
[18:52] Speaker 5: watch that shit, did you? Swaggy, do you have a
[18:55] Speaker 5: Netflix subscription?
[18:56] Speaker 3: When he went to Obama?
[18:57] Speaker 1: Huh?
[18:58] Speaker 3: When he went where? When he, like, disrespected Obama. No, no,
[19:01] Speaker 3: in the Olympics. No, no, no, I'm talking about the Olympics.
[19:03] Speaker 3: You remember the Olympics?
[19:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:05] Speaker 3: When he told everybody that was at the Olympics what
[19:08] Speaker 3: the deal was?
[19:09] Speaker 1: What'd he say? I'm the best player in the world.
[19:14] Speaker 1: That ain't begging. Oh, it was campaign. It was campaign.
[19:17] Speaker 1: It was campaign. I need to grab.
[19:18] Speaker 4: Everything I can to be great. I'm going to reach
[19:21] Speaker 4: for this MVP as hard as I can. Because if
[19:24] Speaker 4: I don't get it, I'm not going to be great.
[19:26] Speaker 3: So guess where Ant is. Where's Ant?
[19:29] Speaker 1: Great. He's bottom five?
[19:32] Speaker 3: Bottom five?
[19:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, bottom five. You're crazy.
[19:34] Speaker 5: Guess what he didn't do? He didn't beg for it.
[19:39] Speaker 5: You think he's bottom five?
[19:39] Speaker 1: He didn't beg.
[19:40] Speaker 3: He's at the bottom five right now.
[19:43] Speaker 1: Of the top five, he's six, seven, eight. Face.
[19:50] Speaker 5: So, I mean, I feel like Ant did what, Ant
[19:54] Speaker 5: was the one who popped it off.
[19:56] Speaker 1: Talking and speaking for yourself.
[19:58] Speaker 5: He's been the guy, since he came into the league,
[20:01] Speaker 5: speaking it into existence. I'm this guy, I do what
[20:04] Speaker 5: I need to do.
[20:05] Speaker 3: Ant-Man was that guy.
[20:07] Speaker 5: I think Victor got his confidence from And understanding that
[20:11] Speaker 5: I should do more of what Ant's doing.
[20:13] Speaker 1: So you copycat. Who's it working for?
[20:17] Speaker 5: That's some French shit. Who's it working for? Who's it
[20:19] Speaker 5: working for? Who's it working for? I did it better.
[20:23] Speaker 5: Can't nobody do it better than me. Are you doing
[20:26] Speaker 5: it better? Nobody. Does it better? It's an L.A.
[20:33] Speaker 3: Song.
[20:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even be knowing it. Yeah.
[20:38] Speaker 5: You can be closer than close. You can be closer
[20:43] Speaker 5: than close. And you still ain't got nothing on me.
[20:46] Speaker 5: It's still going to be what it is. You got
[20:49] Speaker 5: to accept it. A lot of niggas be hating because
[20:51] Speaker 5: a nigga do be campaigning. You know what I'm saying?
[20:54] Speaker 5: You know, the player, he gonna holler at the girl.
[20:57] Speaker 5: You sitting back like, let her choose. Let her choose.
[21:00] Speaker 5: Let her choose.
[21:02] Speaker 1: Let her choose.
[21:04] Speaker 5: And then you go, you're spitting in the ear. You know,
[21:06] Speaker 5: a nigga go spitting in the ear instead of letting
[21:07] Speaker 5: her choose. He gonna win.
[21:09] Speaker 1: He got there first. He told a bunch of shit.
[21:12] Speaker 1: I'm so shocked.
[21:13] Speaker 5: You gotta be one or the other. You gonna sit
[21:15] Speaker 5: back and be the cool or you gonna be the
[21:16] Speaker 5: one to go get it? Wimpy don't play by these rules.
[21:22] Speaker 5: French kissing on French bitches.
[21:23] Speaker 1: What's up, man?
[21:24] Speaker 3: It means something to him.
[21:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. He need it.
[21:27] Speaker 2: So, according to betting odds, SGA still the heavy favorite
[21:32] Speaker 2: to win a second straight MVP. So, underdogs got their
[21:38] Speaker 2: season MVP winner prediction. Market currently going on. So, take
[21:42] Speaker 2: a look at underdogs MVP odds. Wimpy's recent performances have
[21:45] Speaker 2: only slightly improved. Closed the gap, but not enough to
[21:47] Speaker 2: not make SGA a clear favorite. So SGA currently 77%
[21:53] Speaker 2: to get a second straight MVP.
[21:55] Speaker 1: Wimby at 23.
[21:55] Speaker 2: The Spurs do have two games left against the Nuggets
[22:00] Speaker 2: this season. They trailed the Thunder by two games for
[22:03] Speaker 2: first in the Western Conference. The Thunder have two games
[22:06] Speaker 2: against the Lakers, which could.
[22:08] Speaker 1: Shift the balance. Tore that game tonight. Huh?
[22:11] Speaker 2: They have a game tonight against the Thunder. Then one
[22:13] Speaker 2: more before the season ends. When are we going to
[22:14] Speaker 2: beg after this? If the Lakers win? The Lakers win?
[22:18] Speaker 1: If the Lakers win, when are we going to be
[22:20] Speaker 1: begging even more? The Lakers beat the Thunder.
[22:21] Speaker 2: But realistically, what's it going to take for Wimby to
[22:24] Speaker 2: jump SGA for MVP this season?
[22:26] Speaker 1: Move into his number one spot. Number one spot? Yeah.
[22:30] Speaker 1: Helps his argument. Because the media has to vote. If
[22:34] Speaker 1: they move into the number one spot and Shea's still
[22:36] Speaker 1: playing the way he's playing, I don't think it matters.
[22:39] Speaker 1: I do.
[22:39] Speaker 5: Because according to Nick, it's your team. Team success, being
[22:44] Speaker 5: number one. That's all I hear him saying.
[22:45] Speaker 1: You be number one. What's your number one? Number one.
[22:51] Speaker 1: Number one? You ain't number one. All right, let's get
[22:54] Speaker 1: to number one. Two games behind.
[22:55] Speaker 3: And let's have that motherfucking conversation.
[22:57] Speaker 1: Two games behind.
[22:58] Speaker 2: First half, two games against the Nuggets left on their schedule.
[23:00] Speaker 3: I said that.
[23:01] Speaker 1: I'm just making sure. Clear it up.
[23:03] Speaker 5: Because you did. You've been saying number one. And I've
[23:05] Speaker 5: been agreeing with you.
[23:06] Speaker 1: Like, all right, you know what?
[23:07] Speaker 5: We number two. Y'all number two. Okay, we get that
[23:10] Speaker 5: number one spot. It's a different conversation.
[23:13] Speaker 2: First two games left against the Nuggets, we will see
[23:15] Speaker 2: if Wimby embraces the challenge of playing Joker or tries
[23:18] Speaker 2: to duck those two games.
[23:19] Speaker 3: You got two games against Nuggets? Two games left. He's
[23:20] Speaker 3: going to play one-on-one.
[23:21] Speaker 2: Thunder has two games against the Lakers left on their schedule.
[23:24] Speaker 5: He ain't going to be MVP. He's going to play one-on-one. Okay,
[23:27] Speaker 5: let's say he outplayed Joker.
[23:29] Speaker 3: He's not.
[23:29] Speaker 1: He's not. He's not.
[23:31] Speaker 5: He can outplay these 12. Let's see what he had
[23:34] Speaker 5: last game. We don't care about the Jazz. 15, 17,
[23:37] Speaker 5: and 12. He can outplay that.
[23:39] Speaker 1: Who can outplay what?
[23:40] Speaker 3: Wimby can outplay that.
[23:41] Speaker 1: No, he can't.
[23:42] Speaker 3: Yes, he can. 15, 17, and 12.
[23:43] Speaker 1: It's not nothing. Your man care about that stuff.
[23:46] Speaker 3: What you mean it's against the Jazz?
[23:48] Speaker 5: Shouldn't it be 50, 17, and 12?
[23:50] Speaker 1: No. I don't.
[23:52] Speaker 3: No.
[23:52] Speaker 1: He care about winning. It don't matter.
[23:54] Speaker 3: Who care about winning?
[23:55] Speaker 1: He done won. Who care about winning? Who care about winning?
[23:58] Speaker 3: It's the Jazz.
[23:58] Speaker 1: Who care about winning? Why would he want to go
[24:01] Speaker 1: out there and force against the Jazz?
[24:03] Speaker 5: That's the Jazz that you just said.
[24:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, so he ain't got to score big against the Jazz. Oh, okay.
[24:08] Speaker 3: He ain't got to score big.
[24:10] Speaker 1: If they needed him to, he would.
[24:12] Speaker 3: If they needed him to, they would.
[24:13] Speaker 1: Yes, that's the beauty of it.
[24:15] Speaker 3: What'd he do?
[24:15] Speaker 1: He's averaging 28 on the year, so obviously he's doing something.
[24:19] Speaker 1: He averaging more than your guy.
[24:21] Speaker 3: What'd he do?
[24:22] Speaker 1: He averaging more than your guy.
[24:23] Speaker 3: But he's still behind my guy.
[24:24] Speaker 5: So it don't matter what you're averaging.
[24:28] Speaker 1: You're still four. You're still four. You're still four.
[24:33] Speaker 2: So with his 12 assists last night, Jokic locked up
[24:36] Speaker 2: his second straight season. Average in triple-double only him and
[24:39] Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook have done that in NBA history first center
[24:42] Speaker 2: to do that in NBA history Very high efficiency off.
[24:45] Speaker 5: They got this best ever Best ever I'm campaigning for
[24:50] Speaker 5: your best ever.
[24:53] Speaker 1: Ever what I'm fishing the efficiency best.
[24:56] Speaker 5: Ever And they got wind being in the history.
[24:59] Speaker 1: Of the game the best ever.
[25:01] Speaker 2: That's what kills me Two straight triple-doubles and the world
[25:04] Speaker 2: is looking like, so what?
[25:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
[25:06] Speaker 3: He's not even on that 23-77. That's crazy.
[25:09] Speaker 1: That's crazy, right? Like, this is disrespectful as it comes. Like,
[25:14] Speaker 1: disrespectful as it comes. All the way.
[25:18] Speaker 2: I don't like it, Kane, because I feel like they're
[25:19] Speaker 2: trying to piss him off.
[25:20] Speaker 1: The man's shooting 57 from the field, 82-83 from the line,
[25:22] Speaker 1: fucking 39 from three. Leading the league in assists, rebounds,
[25:35] Speaker 1: averaging 28 a night.
[25:39] Speaker 3: Huh?
[25:40] Speaker 1: Over a steal, a block a game. That's too easy.
[25:44] Speaker 2: I'm not impressed by what Yoko's been doing.
[25:46] Speaker 1: I've seen it. No, you haven't.
[25:47] Speaker 3: You ain't seen this.
[25:49] Speaker 1: No, you haven't.
[25:49] Speaker 3: Playing in the league.
[25:50] Speaker 1: You ain't seen a dude with the numbers, all the percentages.
[25:53] Speaker 1: I just named you. You ain't seen it.
[25:54] Speaker 3: I don't care about them. I've seen the numbers before.
[25:56] Speaker 1: No, you haven't.
[25:57] Speaker 5: Seen triple-double four years in a row.
[25:59] Speaker 1: This man led the league in assists and steals. Assists
[26:02] Speaker 1: and rebounds.
[26:02] Speaker 3: 6-3.
[26:03] Speaker 1: And a half. More impressive?
[26:04] Speaker 2: Westbrook more impressive doing it as a point guard or
[26:06] Speaker 2: Jokic more impressive doing it.
[26:07] Speaker 1: As a center?
[26:08] Speaker 3: After the first one, he wasn't an MVP. No.
[26:10] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you're 6'3 and a half. You can
[26:12] Speaker 5: do this. I respect this nigga that's 7'3 to do it.
[26:15] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[26:15] Speaker 3: I mean, goddamn, you can round over.
[26:16] Speaker 1: You can do it. Do it. Do it.
[26:17] Speaker 3: Sound good.
[26:18] Speaker 5: Then the whole offense around you and all that type
[26:20] Speaker 5: of shit. Like, yeah, that's cool, but goddamn. Sound good.
[26:23] Speaker 1: You ain't going to diminish what this man out here doing.
[26:26] Speaker 1: This man is the most efficient player.
[26:27] Speaker 5: This man is the most efficient player. We're going to
[26:30] Speaker 5: give him the same treatment Russ got.
[26:33] Speaker 1: This man is the most efficient. I didn't let people
[26:35] Speaker 1: do it to Russ, and I ain't going to let
[26:38] Speaker 1: people do it to him. Well, well. I didn't let
[26:41] Speaker 1: people do it to Russ, and I ain't going to
[26:42] Speaker 1: let people do it to Nicole. We're doing it today. No,
[26:45] Speaker 1: you're not. I ain't going for it. We're doing it today.
[26:48] Speaker 1: I ain't going for it. You can preach that shit
[26:50] Speaker 1: to other people. Watch out. You can preach that shit
[26:51] Speaker 1: to other people. Stay where you at. Where you at?
[26:53] Speaker 3: Four?
[26:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:53] Speaker 1: Three? Four?
[26:54] Speaker 3: Four or something.
[26:55] Speaker 1: Sound good, because them motherfuckers don't know what the fuck
[26:57] Speaker 1: they talking about.
[26:57] Speaker 3: Watch out, my nigga.
[26:58] Speaker 1: This man has had the most efficient season in NBA history.
[27:01] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody watching shit out. Ain't nobody doing what he doing.
[27:04] Speaker 3: Did he get the MVP last year?
[27:05] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody doing what he doing. Did he get the
[27:06] Speaker 1: MVP last year? Should have.
[27:08] Speaker 3: He did. He averaged a triple-double.
[27:09] Speaker 1: He didn't. Did he average a triple-double? What did he get? Yeah,
[27:11] Speaker 1: he got three up.
[27:12] Speaker 3: Who got it?
[27:13] Speaker 1: How many of your guys got it? How many of
[27:14] Speaker 1: your guys got it? He won the motherfucking Kentucky Derby.
[27:17] Speaker 1: What was it? The Kentucky Derby? How many of your
[27:19] Speaker 1: guys got it? Get it up. Get it up. Get
[27:21] Speaker 1: it up.
[27:22] Speaker 3: How many yo guy got? How many yo guy got?
[27:24] Speaker 1: We in here, man. Yo ain't shit. How many yo
[27:26] Speaker 1: guy got?
[27:26] Speaker 3: We in here, man.
[27:27] Speaker 1: How many yo guy got? Oh, I forgot. You like
[27:30] Speaker 1: finishing second. What did he say, Nick, the other day?
[27:32] Speaker 1: He's the second most ever. Yeah, whatever that shit was.
[27:35] Speaker 1: Second most greatest. Second most greatest. So you like being second. So, like, yeah,
[27:39] Speaker 1: so cool. Yo guy was second last year. Dude, my
[27:41] Speaker 1: guy got three MVPs.
[27:42] Speaker 3: But he was second last year.
[27:44] Speaker 1: Yo ain't got none. He about to have one this year. No,
[27:46] Speaker 1: he won't. Yeah, for sure. He ain't going to have to.
[27:47] Speaker 3: He's going to be in front of your guy. He's
[27:49] Speaker 3: going to be in front of your guy.
[27:50] Speaker 1: So that's all that matters.
[27:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[27:51] Speaker 1: That's all that matters. Yeah, your guy's second. That's a
[27:53] Speaker 1: loser's mentality. Your guy's second. That's a loser's life coming second, right?
[27:57] Speaker 5: Did Joker beg for any of them?
[27:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, he begged for one.
[28:00] Speaker 1: When? Did he beg for any? He didn't have to, right?
[28:03] Speaker 1: He don't have to.
[28:04] Speaker 3: He got three of them.
[28:05] Speaker 1: Three. Listen. Yo. Should be five straight. Should be five straight.
[28:11] Speaker 3: How old is Joker?
[28:11] Speaker 2: Nick.
[28:12] Speaker 1: 40? Nick. 30? 42?
[28:14] Speaker 3: Nick.
[28:14] Speaker 1: Should be five straight. 31 years old.
[28:17] Speaker 5: He's 31 and Wimby's 22. Should be five straight.
[28:20] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[28:21] Speaker 3: We ain't having this conversation.
[28:22] Speaker 1: Should be five. Yo, we not because yo I don't
[28:24] Speaker 1: have any. And he won't have one this year. No.
[28:27] Speaker 1: Once he's two years old and? He will have one. Okay, one.
[28:30] Speaker 1: He will have one. He got to get three by 30, though.
[28:32] Speaker 1: He will have five. He will have one. He will
[28:33] Speaker 1: have five by 30. No, he got to get three
[28:35] Speaker 1: by 29.
[28:35] Speaker 5: He will have five by 30.
[28:37] Speaker 1: No, he won't. He'll have five by 29. No, he won't.
[28:40] Speaker 3: No. You're crazy.
[28:41] Speaker 1: No, he won't.
[28:43] Speaker 3: You're just. Dope or dog food? Yeah, both of them.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Both of them. Both of them, Nick. Huh? Hey, 22?
[28:49] Speaker 3: Hey.
[28:50] Speaker 1: He about to sweep. Nick, he about to clean sweep.
[28:52] Speaker 3: Pre-mode.
[28:52] Speaker 1: MVP. Defensive player of the year. Nick, pre-mode. He might
[28:56] Speaker 1: get most improved. Defensive player of the year. He might
[28:59] Speaker 1: get most improved.
[29:00] Speaker 2: How can he get most improved when he put up
[29:01] Speaker 2: the same, basically the same numbers this year that he
[29:03] Speaker 2: did last year?
[29:04] Speaker 1: It's a couple of things. I've seen some in the
[29:05] Speaker 1: media making that argument. It's a little bit more. That's
[29:08] Speaker 1: what you call delusional. He improved the amount of games
[29:11] Speaker 1: he played. That is what you call, that's the only
[29:14] Speaker 1: thing he did more.
[29:17] Speaker 3: It went for anything.
[29:18] Speaker 1: That's the only thing he did better was play games.
[29:20] Speaker 3: He got that, that's why. He want to be like Giannis.
[29:22] Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Giannis got more.
[29:24] Speaker 1: Where is Winby in the MVP race right now? Not
[29:27] Speaker 1: winning it?
[29:28] Speaker 2: MVP ladder has Winby first, but the betting.
[29:31] Speaker 5: Odds, betting odds are what? I asked a specific question.
[29:34] Speaker 5: I didn't ask about no betting odds. I said, where
[29:37] Speaker 5: is me in the race? Number one.
[29:42] Speaker 1: Today. Okay, cool. Number one. Who cares?
[29:44] Speaker 5: Last week, this week, next week, every week. It's going
[29:49] Speaker 5: to be a week in, week out. When be honest,
[29:51] Speaker 5: it's a takeover. You know what it's called? It's an
[29:54] Speaker 5: alien invasion.
[29:56] Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. It's an alien invasion.
[29:59] Speaker 3: Huh?
[30:04] Speaker 1: Did you see it on prom? NBA prom. They did
[30:07] Speaker 1: a whole alien invasion thing. Watch what Kawhi do to him.
[30:12] Speaker 3: Watch what Kawhi do to him.
[30:13] Speaker 1: Kawhi. Nick, Andy ducked that smoke about a week ago.
[30:16] Speaker 3: Kawhi.
[30:17] Speaker 5: Why he ain't play that guy?
[30:19] Speaker 3: Kawhi.
[30:20] Speaker 1: Why he ain't play that guy?
[30:21] Speaker 3: He ain't gonna put on no deodorant. That's why.
[30:23] Speaker 1: I'm saying, why you ain't play Nicola? Put some deodorant on.
[30:26] Speaker 3: We'll play you, niggas, man. Yeah, he ain't gonna be no.
[30:28] Speaker 1: We cool.
[30:29] Speaker 3: He got Kawhi, then the Joker.
[30:31] Speaker 1: Watch out, man.
[30:32] Speaker 5: Yeah, his days are done. Smoking a cigarette in the back.
[30:34] Speaker 5: Smoking a cigarette in the back. Well, let's talk about winning.
[30:36] Speaker 5: Smoking cigarettes, winning MVPs, all of it go together, right?
[30:39] Speaker 5: Going up there with me and Fox this year. Do
[30:42] Speaker 5: whatever you want to. You got three MVPs.
[30:44] Speaker 1: Three MVPs.
[30:44] Speaker 3: Move around. Nah, you can't.
[30:47] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody moving around. It's my time now.
[30:50] Speaker 5: The fact that you put Westbrook number one point guard.
[30:52] Speaker 3: My time.
[30:53] Speaker 5: Why you ducking him? You put Westbrook as their number
[30:55] Speaker 5: one point guard. Why you ducking then, my time? Or
[30:57] Speaker 5: triple doubles.
[30:58] Speaker 1: Hey, it's my time. Why you ducking?
[30:59] Speaker 3: You put Joker at it. Right now?
[31:01] Speaker 5: He put Russ number one right now. As far as centers?
[31:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[31:07] Speaker 3: Where'd you put Joker? Hey, Mr.
[31:08] Speaker 1: My Time, why you ducking the last time y'all played?
[31:10] Speaker 1: There was ducking going on. Yeah, there was definitely ducking
[31:13] Speaker 1: going on.
[31:13] Speaker 5: Where would you put Joker right now as all-time centers?
[31:17] Speaker 1: He had to be number one statistically. Joker's statistically number one? Yeah,
[31:23] Speaker 1: he had to be. Okay.
[31:25] Speaker 3: Number one of all time?
[31:26] Speaker 1: Hands down. Statistically. It ain't no day. It's not even
[31:30] Speaker 1: that big. This boy is fucking delusional. Yo, something is
[31:35] Speaker 1: wrong with him.
[31:36] Speaker 3: Larry Bird? No.
[31:38] Speaker 1: You just asked me a question. I gave you an answer.
[31:40] Speaker 1: You gave me five. You said five, man, right? You
[31:43] Speaker 1: said center, right? So what was delusional about my answer?
[31:48] Speaker 1: Because there's a guy that he ain't did. I'm saying
[31:51] Speaker 1: there's a guy named started out at Luau Sender and
[31:54] Speaker 1: changed his name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
[31:57] Speaker 5: That's better than Joker statistically. Only got more points and
[32:01] Speaker 5: all that.
[32:01] Speaker 1: Five MVPs.
[32:02] Speaker 3: Five MVPs. Five championships. Five championships.
[32:06] Speaker 1: We're not finished. Next topic, dawg. Let's get back to this.
[32:08] Speaker 2: Please.
[32:09] Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. Please. As a team. Wait a minute. So
[32:11] Speaker 1: you just asked me the question. Please. To say that
[32:14] Speaker 1: Joker's not number one?
[32:16] Speaker 5: I'm just asking where you have him. You said you
[32:18] Speaker 5: got him number one. You said, where do I have
[32:20] Speaker 5: him in comparison to Russell Westbrook being number one?
[32:22] Speaker 1: I said.
[32:23] Speaker 5: Russ is statistically the number one best point guard of
[32:26] Speaker 5: all time.
[32:26] Speaker 3: I said top five centers.
[32:27] Speaker 5: You asked me where do I have Joker at centers
[32:31] Speaker 5: all time.
[32:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said statistically he's number one.
[32:35] Speaker 3: So, but where do you have him then?
[32:37] Speaker 1: I just said. So, you got him number one or
[32:39] Speaker 1: are you saying.
[32:40] Speaker 5: Did you just hear what I just said? Statistically, I
[32:42] Speaker 5: have him number one.
[32:43] Speaker 1: Okay, so... So he's delusional about it. I know, he
[32:47] Speaker 1: always do that. Next topic. What's delusional about it? The Spurs, right?
[32:52] Speaker 1: Back to the Spurs. Yes.
[32:53] Speaker 2: So we talked about Wimby as an individual. Now let's
[32:55] Speaker 2: talk about the Spurs as a staff-labeled organization.
[32:58] Speaker 1: Is it too straightforward?
[32:59] Speaker 2: So much has been made about the Spurs being a
[33:01] Speaker 2: young team with the bulk of their roster lacking any
[33:04] Speaker 2: playoff experience. So Scott Van Pelt asked Wimby about it,
[33:07] Speaker 2: and he stood firm in his belief in himself and
[33:09] Speaker 2: his team.
[33:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have experience, right? Screw it.
[33:13] Speaker 6: I mean, that's all we got. We're not going to
[33:15] Speaker 6: play any different way just because it is this way.
[33:18] Speaker 6: I mean, we're still going to play 100% and go
[33:23] Speaker 6: to try to win this championship.
[33:25] Speaker 1: Screw it.
[33:27] Speaker 2: So we've seen Wimby in the regular season, 29 minutes
[33:29] Speaker 2: per game. We talked, Kane, yourself about now they up
[33:32] Speaker 2: those minutes per game in the postseason. So a question
[33:34] Speaker 2: for you, K-Mart. How much of a disadvantage is the Spurs'
[33:37] Speaker 2: lack of experience in the playoffs and how much is
[33:39] Speaker 2: having Wimby neutralize that disadvantage?
[33:45] Speaker 1: They play the same way every night, man. I don't
[33:47] Speaker 1: think it deviates. So, I don't think the experience is
[33:54] Speaker 1: that much of a disadvantage for them. Yeah. Because they've
[33:59] Speaker 1: learned how to win during the regular season, right? We
[34:02] Speaker 1: all know winning and losing is a learned behavior. Um,
[34:05] Speaker 1: I would consider the Spurs a good team. Um, good
[34:09] Speaker 1: teams find a way to win. Um, the deeper a
[34:16] Speaker 1: series goes, you get better in it. Just say if
[34:19] Speaker 1: the first round goes 6-7 game, then that's going to
[34:21] Speaker 1: be beneficial to them. Or coming out and getting whoever
[34:25] Speaker 1: you're playing, whether you get the top spot or you
[34:29] Speaker 1: finish second, you're playing 7-0, unless you come out there
[34:31] Speaker 1: and get them out of the way, sweep them, that
[34:37] Speaker 1: experience helps as well. In this NBA, I don't look
[34:39] Speaker 1: at it as a detriment. Cause a lot of young
[34:44] Speaker 1: guys still in this league that they're going to be
[34:46] Speaker 1: playing against as well. I think the team with the
[34:48] Speaker 1: most experience is a, is part of with Brian, the Lakers. They,
[34:54] Speaker 1: but they're not going to play them with Luca and
[34:57] Speaker 1: the cold have been around Jamal Murray. But getting there
[35:02] Speaker 1: is we'll send them in the second round. It's helpful. Right.
[35:05] Speaker 1: Cause you got out the first round. It depends on
[35:06] Speaker 1: how it looked in the first round. Yeah. No, I'm
[35:09] Speaker 1: excited to see how they look in the playoffs. Um,
[35:12] Speaker 1: They have been dominant defensively because of Wimby. We all
[35:16] Speaker 1: know that his minutes will go up. So yeah, they're
[35:19] Speaker 1: going to be better defensive in the playoffs. So good luck.
[35:23] Speaker 1: Good luck. That's right.
[35:25] Speaker 2: Let's shift over to you. Obviously you've not been a
[35:27] Speaker 2: big advocate for the Spurs. You think that the Clippers,
[35:30] Speaker 2: if they're able to secure that.
[35:31] Speaker 5: Seven, you will see the night when.
[35:34] Speaker 1: The first Clippers do meet tonight at the end to
[35:36] Speaker 1: a dome, you will.
[35:37] Speaker 4: See the night when I'm talking about, um, Wimby, just
[35:43] Speaker 4: right now, he's showing, like the more he talk, I'm
[35:49] Speaker 4: not liking it.
[35:50] Speaker 5: The screw it, like he said, screw it.
[35:55] Speaker 1: I'm not liking this.
[35:57] Speaker 4: I was becoming a big fan and the more he's talking,
[36:00] Speaker 4: it's just like, screw it.
[36:03] Speaker 5: If you're going to try, screw it. You can't say
[36:06] Speaker 5: stuff like that, man. What you want him to say?
[36:08] Speaker 1: What you want him to say?
[36:09] Speaker 4: And just go back to the, you know, I don't know.
[36:13] Speaker 4: We're just talking too much right now. It's like, fuck,
[36:15] Speaker 4: shut up. The Spurs are doing well.
[36:17] Speaker 5: Right now it's giving me, it's giving me, it's giving me,
[36:22] Speaker 5: we good in the West vibe from Memphis. We good
[36:25] Speaker 5: in the West vibe. It's giving me that type of vibe.
[36:27] Speaker 5: You didn't like that either? You see what happened? I'm asking,
[36:30] Speaker 5: did you like it? You see what happened? That's what
[36:32] Speaker 5: it's giving me. You didn't say that, though. You didn't
[36:34] Speaker 5: say that when Jai was popping off. He knew he
[36:36] Speaker 5: would pop off on your ass. You wasn't saying, I
[36:38] Speaker 5: ain't like that shit. You ain't saying none of that shit.
[36:41] Speaker 5: You wasn't saying none of that. His daddy showed up.
[36:44] Speaker 5: You was all nice and shit. I wasn't hearing that.
[36:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, you was. Yeah, you was. Yeah, you was.
[36:50] Speaker 4: All I'm saying, as you get close to the playoff,
[36:55] Speaker 4: It's time to lock in all that other stuff.
[36:58] Speaker 1: Shit, they kicking ass. They're 26-2, so I can't separate first.
[37:00] Speaker 3: But he's talking too much. Like, people, that shit. We
[37:04] Speaker 3: good in the West, they have a big effect.
[37:06] Speaker 1: They not them. They ain't them. And he not him.
[37:09] Speaker 1: It's young. And he not him. But they good. No,
[37:15] Speaker 1: because they don't know. Listen, that's a good thing. They
[37:17] Speaker 1: don't know no better. Right? When you don't know no better. Listen,
[37:21] Speaker 1: they ain't do no. They've been young all season.
[37:24] Speaker 3: Right?
[37:25] Speaker 4: Name one young team like that that really done something, though.
[37:30] Speaker 3: The Oklahoma City Thunder.
[37:31] Speaker 1: They lost first round that year. They was first place.
[37:34] Speaker 1: Went to the finals, nigga. They lost first round, though,
[37:38] Speaker 1: to Luka.
[37:40] Speaker 3: Didn't they?
[37:40] Speaker 1: They played Luka first. Oklahoma City Thunder.
[37:42] Speaker 3: Not the... Oh, okay. Yeah, the young boys.
[37:47] Speaker 1: They was... Yeah, that's the last team. It was young.
[37:50] Speaker 1: They didn't give a fuck. They just went out there.
[37:51] Speaker 1: It was like, fuck it.
[37:52] Speaker 3: We here. Might as well try to win it.
[37:54] Speaker 2: So the current Thunder, two seasons ago, lost the conference
[37:58] Speaker 2: semis to the Mavs, the Lucas crew.
[38:00] Speaker 1: That's the game.
[38:01] Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Then the next season, they
[38:03] Speaker 2: won it. Won a championship. Yeah, so it's a learned behavior. Oh,
[38:07] Speaker 2: it's second round, my bad. It was second round, right?
[38:09] Speaker 1: Second round. It's a learned behavior, man. I think they'll
[38:11] Speaker 1: be all right, man.
[38:12] Speaker 3: Lucas beat Ant-Man, I forgot. Okay.
[38:16] Speaker 1: Because they ain't built on hype. Yeah. The Spurs ain't
[38:19] Speaker 1: built on hype.
[38:20] Speaker 3: It's not hype right now?
[38:21] Speaker 1: No, they're going out kicking ass, taking aim. What do
[38:22] Speaker 1: you mean hype? Do you see the record? He's 15-0
[38:25] Speaker 1: in his last 15 games.
[38:27] Speaker 3: Like I said, we're going to see tonight.
[38:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
[38:30] Speaker 3: I was wrong when they say.
[38:32] Speaker 1: Tonight, you mean in between the Lakers and the Thunder?
[38:34] Speaker 3: No, between the Clippers and the Spurs.
[38:37] Speaker 2: A lot of activity in the streets of Los Angeles tonight.
[38:39] Speaker 1: They're going to smack the Clippers.
[38:41] Speaker 3: We're going to put something on it. When are we
[38:43] Speaker 3: going to have 40? We're going to put something on it?
[38:45] Speaker 3: You actually want to bet on that?
[38:46] Speaker 5: Yes.
[38:46] Speaker 1: When are we going to have 40?
[38:49] Speaker 3: What you want to put on that?
[38:50] Speaker 1: He had 40 on him. On Brooke Lopez? They traded
[38:53] Speaker 1: their best bid. Zubac was the only chance they had.
[38:59] Speaker 5: Zubac did solid against women.
[39:01] Speaker 1: And you can't expect Brooke to do anything with him.
[39:03] Speaker 3: The Claw's going to guard him.
[39:04] Speaker 1: Who?
[39:04] Speaker 3: Like he did in the All-Star game. Who? The Claw.
[39:09] Speaker 3: He's going to guard Castle, one of them other niggas.
[39:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, he got his hands full on the perimeter.
[39:14] Speaker 3: For sure.
[39:15] Speaker 1: Can't guard both of them. All three of them. Can't
[39:18] Speaker 1: guard Castle, Fox, and Wimby.
[39:20] Speaker 3: Who's looking better right now?
[39:22] Speaker 1: Who? What you mean? The Scourge.
[39:24] Speaker 4: The Kawhi or Wimby? Who's looking better right now? Who's
[39:31] Speaker 4: looking better right now?
[39:32] Speaker 1: Who's number two? Who's number one in the MVP vote?
[39:38] Speaker 1: There you go again.
[39:39] Speaker 2: Kawhi has been playing very well.
[39:42] Speaker 3: How much does he average?
[39:44] Speaker 1: This season?
[39:45] Speaker 3: 27?
[39:45] Speaker 1: 28, I think. I think it's closer to 20.
[39:47] Speaker 2: 28, 6, 4 assists, 50% from the field.
[39:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, 29.
[39:56] Speaker 3: Round it up. Yo, man, it was, what, 24?
[39:59] Speaker 1: 50, 38, 90 shootings.
[40:00] Speaker 5: Oh, 25 went up yesterday because.
[40:03] Speaker 1: He had 40. Kawhi has been playing very well, I
[40:05] Speaker 1: will say that.
[40:05] Speaker 3: Yes.
[40:06] Speaker 1: And been available. Yes. 60 games this season. Spurs fighting
[40:10] Speaker 1: for that top spot. They're going to come out and
[40:11] Speaker 1: play hard, bro.
[40:12] Speaker 5: They're trying to get 60 wins. I don't even think
[40:15] Speaker 5: it's about the top spot. I think they're trying to
[40:17] Speaker 5: get a 60 win.
[40:18] Speaker 1: I think it's both. Both are feasible. Both are feasible,
[40:22] Speaker 1: and I think that they're trying to go do it.
[40:25] Speaker 3: Like what? First round.
[40:27] Speaker 1: Where are Clippers at?
[40:28] Speaker 5: Eight?
[40:29] Speaker 2: They're at eight currently. But they could beat the Suns.
[40:34] Speaker 2: They could beat the Suns in the front. They see
[40:37] Speaker 2: them in the playing currently.
[40:39] Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure they would do that.
[40:42] Speaker 2: But Clippers lost to the Blazers Tuesday. Blazers currently ninth.
[40:46] Speaker 3: The Clippers lost to the who?
[40:48] Speaker 2: The Portland Trail Blazers. Blazers are half game behind the
[40:50] Speaker 2: Clippers right now for the eighth spot. Oh, so they're
[40:52] Speaker 2: all in the same boat.
[40:54] Speaker 1: That's a lot of.
[40:56] Speaker 3: The Portland Trail Blazers.
[40:57] Speaker 1: So they're in ninth. Clippers in eighth, seventh, eighth, ninth.
[41:02] Speaker 1: All of the same.
[41:04] Speaker 3: I'll feel some type of way. I'm a coach.
[41:06] Speaker 5: We lose to the fucking Clippers after they lost to
[41:07] Speaker 5: the Trail Blazers.
[41:09] Speaker 1: Well, you're going to feel some type of way. Nah.
[41:12] Speaker 1: Not today.
[41:14] Speaker 5: Spurs, second night of a backtrack. Spurs do defeat the Clippers.
[41:16] Speaker 5: Spurs are going to lose two games in a row.
[41:21] Speaker 5: They play Denver after, too. It's a back-to-back.
[41:24] Speaker 4: Remember, Wimby was giving it all to the West Coast
[41:26] Speaker 4: Wizards last night. Went out there, dropped 40 last night.
[41:29] Speaker 4: Now you got to come out here and play in L.A.
[41:32] Speaker 3: It'll be 340 balls in a row.
[41:34] Speaker 2: So Spurs have the Clippers tonight, Thursday, and then they
[41:37] Speaker 2: play the Nuggets on Saturday.
[41:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a Work is different from here in
[41:41] Speaker 4: San Antonio.
[41:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot different. They make you work harder.
[41:45] Speaker 3: You got to put your hard hat on.
[41:50] Speaker 1: Freshly laid.
[41:51] Speaker 3: Not fresh now. No, I ain't even fucked in there.
[41:53] Speaker 5: He already played half the minutes. That's all I'm saying.
[41:58] Speaker 5: He got his work done in the first half. He
[42:00] Speaker 5: didn't even have to play 27 to 13. Do we
[42:02] Speaker 5: play back-to-back like that? Didn't he have 27 to 13?
[42:04] Speaker 1: 27 to 13. And he kept going to get 41.
[42:05] Speaker 1: And it... Okay. Because I ain't too proud to beg.
[42:12] Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, come campaign.
[42:14] Speaker 4: You say you hate about Shea, you leave the player
[42:16] Speaker 4: in while you're still up 20 and shit.
[42:19] Speaker 2: Look, I mean, it did have the feel of that
[42:21] Speaker 2: looking at that.
[42:22] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[42:23] Speaker 5: It did not because they kept cutting the lead down.
[42:25] Speaker 1: No, stop, stop.
[42:27] Speaker 3: I was watching the game.
[42:28] Speaker 5: The Warriors, that nigga shouldn't left-handed because their wrists are hurt.
[42:30] Speaker 5: They kept cutting into the lead. That's why he kept
[42:32] Speaker 5: coming back in the game. It was like 12, 13.
[42:35] Speaker 5: Then they would go up to like 18, and then
[42:39] Speaker 5: they would come back down. So they kept putting– Wimby
[42:42] Speaker 5: stayed on the bike. He was on the bike like,
[42:43] Speaker 5: do I need to go back in?
[42:45] Speaker 3: Do I need to go back in?
[42:47] Speaker 1: So Spurs have six games left.
[42:49] Speaker 2: Wimby's at 61 games right now, so he needs to
[42:51] Speaker 2: play four of those six games to be eligible.
[42:54] Speaker 7: They do have two games against the Nuggets, so he
[42:55] Speaker 7: could duck those two. He ain't even going to be
[42:58] Speaker 7: able to win. He going to duck one of them
[43:01] Speaker 7: Joker games. First game, Joker going to give them.
[43:06] Speaker 4: A 50 and 20 and 13. The second game, he
[43:09] Speaker 4: ain't going to want no smoke, bitches.
[43:12] Speaker 5: If I remember correctly, I think Joel Embiid ducked Joker
[43:15] Speaker 5: and then won the MVP.
[43:17] Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he hasn't played in Denver in, I think, seven,
[43:21] Speaker 2: eight seasons.
[43:21] Speaker 5: I think it might be wise for him. If that's
[43:23] Speaker 5: how you get it, duck that nigga to get it.
[43:26] Speaker 1: He can't.
[43:27] Speaker 3: If that's what got you. He got him.
[43:28] Speaker 1: If that's what got the other guy. How many games
[43:30] Speaker 1: he got left?
[43:31] Speaker 3: Shit.
[43:31] Speaker 1: The Spurs have six games left. Wimby's at 61 games. Oh, yeah.
[43:35] Speaker 2: Played this year, so he needs four more to be
[43:36] Speaker 2: eligible for postseason awards. All right, well, let's talk one
[43:39] Speaker 2: more Wimby, but more a general situation going on in
[43:43] Speaker 2: the league. So a lot of talk about the lack
[43:44] Speaker 2: of defense in the NBA nowadays before it was worth
[43:48] Speaker 2: the NBA. The current defensive player of the year, frontrunner, disagrees.
[43:52] Speaker 2: So after the Spurs went over the Bucs this weekend,
[43:54] Speaker 2: Wimby was asked what's something that people... Don't understand about
[43:57] Speaker 2: playing defense in the NBA.
[43:58] Speaker 1: This is a different sport. Are we having a whole
[44:00] Speaker 1: segment of what he's saying? Yes. What the fuck going on?
[44:03] Speaker 1: Put your seatbelt on. Seatbelt. What the fuck? Are you good?
[44:09] Speaker 1: It's Spurs Thursday. Listen to you say, are we there
[44:11] Speaker 1: yet for.
[44:12] Speaker 3: 30 straight minutes?
[44:13] Speaker 1: Are we there yet?
[44:14] Speaker 5: Lil' Nick, sit your ass down and get your little
[44:17] Speaker 5: Capri Sun and be good.
[44:18] Speaker 1: It's Spurs Day. Are we there yet?
[44:21] Speaker 5: I ain't never heard somebody talk about the Spurs this much.
[44:24] Speaker 5: You heard us talk about the Lakers for three straight years.
[44:27] Speaker 2: Lakers much more intriguing and interesting as a team.
[44:30] Speaker 3: Fuck, bro. Who's talking about Luka, Luka, Luka, Luka?
[44:32] Speaker 2: Here's what Wimby had to say about the state of defense.
[44:35] Speaker 1: In the NBA. I guess before I got here, it's
[44:41] Speaker 1: a lot of talk before I was in the NBA.
[44:46] Speaker 6: Like, you know, when you're in the NBA about, like,
[44:49] Speaker 6: nobody defends anymore or like there's no defense in the NBA.
[44:54] Speaker 6: I heard that a lot before coming here, but it's
[44:57] Speaker 6: just not true. Like players are just that good. So it's,
[45:03] Speaker 6: and I was surprised by the dedication of like the
[45:09] Speaker 6: whole staff when I got here because, and I've heard
[45:14] Speaker 6: that from other franchises, franchises that win, franchises that didn't win.
[45:18] Speaker 1: And we weren't winning a lot at the time. And
[45:22] Speaker 1: it's the same. I mean, people are dedicated.
[45:24] Speaker 6: And people actually do guard in the NBA and do
[45:26] Speaker 6: lots of scouting, defense scouting reports.
[45:31] Speaker 1: Man, I thought the U.S. was some shit.
[45:34] Speaker 2: I thought it was sweet. There's been, like I said,
[45:38] Speaker 2: a lot of talk nowadays saying there's no defense in
[45:40] Speaker 2: the NBA.
[45:41] Speaker 1: You hear what we say there. You hear what they
[45:43] Speaker 1: think about us, and that's what you hear. Putting a
[45:49] Speaker 1: scouting report together and guys playing defense are two totally
[45:52] Speaker 1: separate things. I can put a scouting report together and
[45:57] Speaker 1: guys still are bad defenders, right? Because the way that
[46:06] Speaker 1: this no defensive thing has taken off like wildfire, I
[46:09] Speaker 1: could see where he was coming from. And to get
[46:12] Speaker 1: here and see that there's a difference that, yeah, no,
[46:15] Speaker 1: some guys do defend. Some guys are defensive. Better than advertised.
[46:18] Speaker 1: Some teams are better than advertised. Yes. But it's the
[46:24] Speaker 1: pace of the game. It's the three ball. It's the
[46:26] Speaker 1: amounts of points that's being scored. It's the amount of
[46:31] Speaker 1: high 20 and low 30 point scores there are each
[46:34] Speaker 1: year in the NBA that makes people say there's no defense.
[46:36] Speaker 1: There are the superstars in this league that are being
[46:40] Speaker 1: glorified that don't play defense. That's loud. And word travels, right?
[46:48] Speaker 1: But to be in a locker room and to have
[46:52] Speaker 1: someone put together a scouting report for the next opponent,
[46:57] Speaker 1: especially if you've got a good organization and a good staff,
[47:03] Speaker 1: that you are overprepared for what the team is going
[47:08] Speaker 1: to do offensively, right? I think that Of the San
[47:14] Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs because the winning that they've had throughout history
[47:18] Speaker 1: with Pop and the guys, Tim and those guys, they
[47:23] Speaker 1: knew what it was to go out and scout and
[47:26] Speaker 1: put together game plans in order to be successful. I
[47:30] Speaker 1: think that's transferred over to them and that's what he's seen.
[47:38] Speaker 1: So yeah, it could definitely be a delusion. a view
[47:42] Speaker 1: from afar that these guys don't defend or teams are
[47:45] Speaker 1: not prepared. It could definitely be a delusion, but I'm
[47:51] Speaker 1: glad he's speaking up on it because of the narrative
[47:55] Speaker 1: out there that he's the only one that plays defense, right? No,
[48:00] Speaker 1: the team is prepared.
[48:03] Speaker 3: I think that.
[48:06] Speaker 5: When you really do look at that, I mean, This
[48:09] Speaker 5: is what I love about the game is because you
[48:11] Speaker 5: do have the energy, the effort, the scouting report, the
[48:15] Speaker 5: attention to detail, the sense of urgency. All of these
[48:19] Speaker 5: things play a part when you got a good coaching
[48:21] Speaker 5: staff and a good organization that actually takes pride in
[48:25] Speaker 5: being prepared for the game.
[48:27] Speaker 1: So when you.
[48:28] Speaker 5: Do have organizations that take pride, but the players just
[48:32] Speaker 5: don't buy in, then you go out there and you're like, man,
[48:34] Speaker 5: they're not executing the game plan. We got how we
[48:38] Speaker 5: play defense on the side pick and roll, how we're
[48:40] Speaker 5: going to play it tonight on the top, how we're
[48:42] Speaker 5: going to play the cross screens at the bottom, how
[48:44] Speaker 5: we're going to do all this tagging and 2-9ing. All
[48:47] Speaker 5: of these different things are part of the terminology in
[48:50] Speaker 5: the NBA. So when you've got teams that don't buy
[48:53] Speaker 5: into that, you see bad defense, right? But then you
[48:58] Speaker 5: know that the coach is like J.J.
[48:59] Speaker 3: J.J.
[49:00] Speaker 5: Knows the terminology. He knows how to put guys in position.
[49:04] Speaker 5: But if those guys ain't executing, he look bad. So
[49:07] Speaker 5: when you look at an organization like Ms. Johnson, he's
[49:10] Speaker 5: coming back from having a successful tier of Coach Popovich
[49:15] Speaker 5: having a system of this is how we've done it.
[49:18] Speaker 3: This is how we prepare. is how we were successful.
[49:21] Speaker 3: This is what you need.
[49:23] Speaker 5: When you take that and you go with it, the
[49:25] Speaker 5: players come in knowing that this is the formula. So
[49:27] Speaker 5: you don't go against the formula. You're not going to
[49:29] Speaker 5: have players be like, we should do this. We should
[49:31] Speaker 5: do that. So when becoming in and seeing it, it's like, okay.
[49:36] Speaker 5: This is dope. Everybody actually does play defense. Then you
[49:41] Speaker 5: go to other places that are scouting for you, and
[49:43] Speaker 5: you're seeing that your opportunities are limited based on how
[49:46] Speaker 5: they've scouted you. They're taking this away from me. They're
[49:49] Speaker 5: taking this away from me. Damn, they actually playing pretty
[49:52] Speaker 5: good defense tonight. But then you got your other teams
[49:56] Speaker 5: like the Wizards. I don't think they played good in
[50:00] Speaker 5: that BAM 83. I don't think they had a scout report. Prepared, right?
[50:05] Speaker 5: Or they might have, but they just didn't execute it.
[50:08] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So I think Wimby's definitely
[50:10] Speaker 3: spot on with there is a system. And I think
[50:15] Speaker 3: if the coaches don't reiterate that system and the players
[50:17] Speaker 3: don't execute that system, you will.
[50:18] Speaker 1: Look like a trash-ass team.
[50:20] Speaker 5: But then you got the teams that go out there
[50:22] Speaker 5: and they execute, you know, reminiscence of Mike Malone.
[50:25] Speaker 3: He had a system.
[50:27] Speaker 5: He was executing defensive principles where you didn't need no anchor.
[50:31] Speaker 5: defensively to actually provide a defensive type of team. You
[50:34] Speaker 5: got guys in position to do certain things, and you
[50:38] Speaker 5: do them, we'll get stops. And I think that goes
[50:43] Speaker 5: a long way with good coaching. It goes a long
[50:45] Speaker 5: way with players who buy into the system, and I
[50:48] Speaker 5: think Wimby's one of those players.
[50:49] Speaker 1: That's an example of buying into it.
[50:52] Speaker 2: Swag, is the defense bad or is the offense just
[50:54] Speaker 2: that good? Offensively, it seems like the league has evolved tremendously.
[50:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, the offense is just that good for me. I
[51:00] Speaker 4: think Over the years, each generation, people were still scoring
[51:09] Speaker 4: 30s and.
[51:12] Speaker 1: 40s and had 81.
[51:13] Speaker 4: So it's hard to say one generation is better than
[51:17] Speaker 4: the next at defense. I think everything gets better, and
[51:22] Speaker 4: you still going to have them ass teams. Even back
[51:24] Speaker 4: when y'all was playing, when I was playing, you had
[51:26] Speaker 4: ass teams. Wizards always been one of them ass teams.
[51:30] Speaker 4: You got the Charlotte Hornets that always been, I mean,
[51:33] Speaker 4: the Bobcats and shit like that. You always going to
[51:36] Speaker 4: have them bad teams. And you're going to have them
[51:38] Speaker 4: teams that know what.
[51:39] Speaker 3: They're doing for real. I mean, organizations.
[51:43] Speaker 4: Like, coming, once I left the Wizards in L.A., coming
[51:48] Speaker 4: to the Lakers and all that, seeing how they prepare,
[51:50] Speaker 4: how just a different feel. You get the environment. You
[51:57] Speaker 4: eat different. They give you this. What was the difference
[52:01] Speaker 4: between Wizards, Lakers, and Warriors?
[52:05] Speaker 5: Wizards, well, first off, they didn't feed us. They didn't
[52:10] Speaker 5: give us breakfast, no dinner, no nothing like that.
[52:14] Speaker 3: On your own?
[52:14] Speaker 1: On your own. Shit, the Nuggets was like that forever.
[52:17] Speaker 3: No training table, no nothing.
[52:19] Speaker 1: Nigga, no, not until we... Shit, boy. Yeah, so... After
[52:24] Speaker 1: we traded Melo? They traded Mello? Or when? Not we.
[52:29] Speaker 1: After they traded Mello, Al Harrington came. Al was like,
[52:32] Speaker 1: we got rid of that. Don't shoot around one day.
[52:35] Speaker 1: Al said, I asked where the food was.
[52:38] Speaker 3: Shit, we gone with Mello.
[52:39] Speaker 1: Niggas was like, shit, where the food at? Niggas was like,
[52:42] Speaker 1: what food? You on your own. I said, my food
[52:45] Speaker 1: in my room waiting on me. I got the person
[52:48] Speaker 1: called to get my food. What was the difference in L.A.
[52:54] Speaker 4: I mean, the Warriors in L.A., And I would say
[52:57] Speaker 4: the Clippers was kind of like that. They fed us before,
[53:02] Speaker 4: after practice. It was just different than everything. Scouts, training,
[53:10] Speaker 4: the weight room, everything was just different.
[53:15] Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
[53:16] Speaker 5: The organization with Philly. So you think y'all was tanking
[53:20] Speaker 5: or was y'all just bad? We were just bad. Okay,
[53:22] Speaker 5: so that L.A. team and then compared to the Warriors.
[53:25] Speaker 5: You go into that situation. What was the scout difference?
[53:32] Speaker 4: No better players, but coaching was similar. With D'Antoni, you know,
[53:40] Speaker 4: practice is 40 minutes. You start off going over to
[53:44] Speaker 4: scout the plays and then get what you need. And
[53:48] Speaker 4: Steve Kerr was similar to that sometimes.
[53:51] Speaker 3: They was with the same shit. They was part of
[53:52] Speaker 3: the Phoenix.
[53:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[53:54] Speaker 4: So they was like on the same stuff. You know,
[53:57] Speaker 4: the scout 9 a.m. on game days and shooting rounds
[54:01] Speaker 4: and all that. But they had like, you had to
[54:06] Speaker 4: check the box when you do your weights. You got
[54:08] Speaker 4: to make sure you get your weight room in. You
[54:10] Speaker 4: got to make sure you get your shots up and
[54:12] Speaker 4: all that. So that type of stuff, they held you accountable.
[54:18] Speaker 4: If they was going to be that light on you,
[54:21] Speaker 4: they made sure that you got your work in.
[54:23] Speaker 1: For sure.
[54:24] Speaker 4: And there's days they told you don't even come in
[54:26] Speaker 4: the gym. Stuff like that.
[54:30] Speaker 5: Like Byron Scott, back to back lose. He's running 17s
[54:35] Speaker 5: and Indian runs.
[54:37] Speaker 4: Like what the fuck? In the fucking middle of the season.
[54:43] Speaker 4: This month, March. Was his scout different though? I think
[54:47] Speaker 4: for the fans... We don't really dig deep into the scout. Philly,
[54:51] Speaker 4: they practice facility, like I said, was in like a
[54:53] Speaker 4: 24-hour camp.
[54:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. Yeah, we used to go over there. Yeah,
[54:56] Speaker 3: I remember. People coming in just watching you.
[54:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:59] Speaker 5: Locking up next to new strangers and shit. Like, who
[55:03] Speaker 5: could focus like that?
[55:04] Speaker 1: It's in the hood now. Yeah. It's like Trenton, some
[55:07] Speaker 1: shit like that now.
[55:08] Speaker 3: It's like.
[55:08] Speaker 1: Fine city, King. Fine city. Very well much can be,
[55:11] Speaker 1: but they... of shit.
[55:14] Speaker 3: Ain't no breakfast there. No nothing. You come in.
[55:18] Speaker 1: It's all different, man. All these teams are different, right?
[55:23] Speaker 3: How was yours as far as from Jersey, y'all go
[55:26] Speaker 3: to two finals, scouting.
[55:28] Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank.
[55:29] Speaker 5: Lawrence Frank, different, right? Was he more attention to detail
[55:32] Speaker 5: than George was?
[55:33] Speaker 1: Everybody. Ain't too many people on this planet more attention
[55:39] Speaker 1: to detail oriented than Lawrence Frank when it comes to
[55:41] Speaker 1: scouting report and Being prepared, bro.
[55:44] Speaker 3: Where he at right now?
[55:45] Speaker 1: With the Clippers? In front office with the Clippers.
[55:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[55:48] Speaker 1: No, before, he didn't, like, dude didn't sleep, bro. Like,
[55:51] Speaker 1: we're coming there joint the next morning, man, the playoff
[55:53] Speaker 1: series game and all that. I mean, he been chewing
[55:56] Speaker 1: on the pen. He got blue ink all over his
[55:58] Speaker 1: mouth and shit. Like, ain't been to sleep. Eyes bloodshot red. Like,
[56:02] Speaker 1: he been, but we was prepared. Right. Like, there wasn't
[56:06] Speaker 1: a set that nobody ran during that stretch that we
[56:11] Speaker 1: didn't know wasn't prepared for. And that's all you need
[56:13] Speaker 1: with somebody like, you got me and J. Kidd out there, bruh?
[56:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody locked in on what they.
[56:17] Speaker 1: And you got this mad genius over here?
[56:19] Speaker 4: Also, do you think it's more about, like, the players
[56:22] Speaker 4: two getting along and liking each other?
[56:23] Speaker 1: I don't think that's... I don't think that's the deal.
[56:26] Speaker 1: They ain't got to like each other.
[56:28] Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it's about liking, but more like
[56:34] Speaker 5: respecting your savvy. I know he know what he's talking about.
[56:37] Speaker 5: He ain't got to like you, but he right.
[56:39] Speaker 1: I know he right. When it's time to go win,
[56:41] Speaker 1: when it's time to go compete and win, All that
[56:47] Speaker 1: shit go out the window.
[56:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[56:49] Speaker 5: Because when he calls screen, I got to be screen, right, screen, left.
[56:55] Speaker 5: It ain't like you screen, but you want to prove
[56:57] Speaker 5: you wrong.
[56:58] Speaker 1: Right, right.
[56:59] Speaker 3: I don't do the screen.
[57:00] Speaker 1: Oh, we got a whole issue. Yeah, that's the real issue.
[57:02] Speaker 1: We got a whole issue. Well, motherfucker, don't call the screen.
[57:05] Speaker 1: I get hit with the screen. You don't call the
[57:07] Speaker 1: screen now, my nigga. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The
[57:09] Speaker 1: situation we had with them. Yeah.
[57:11] Speaker 3: Like that.
[57:12] Speaker 1: I call the screen, you want to do what you
[57:14] Speaker 1: want to do. And then come try to tell me
[57:15] Speaker 1: my job on the bench.
[57:16] Speaker 3: That's why I'm telling people to lose.
[57:18] Speaker 1: That don't work, dog. And I'm going to lose it.
[57:22] Speaker 5: And you being an anchor of the defense, you talk
[57:25] Speaker 5: about Scotland report.
[57:26] Speaker 3: But you want to prove him wrong. Right.
[57:28] Speaker 5: But he has, like, as a vet, you looking at
[57:32] Speaker 5: what the coach is saying in the Scotland report, right?
[57:34] Speaker 1: Kenyon has.
[57:36] Speaker 5: the seniority to go out on the floor and change
[57:39] Speaker 5: somewhat of what the Scotland report is based on what
[57:41] Speaker 5: he sees. Or how we plan to play. Yeah, so
[57:44] Speaker 5: he could see some shit. He could be like, all right,
[57:46] Speaker 5: this is what they've been doing the last two times.
[57:47] Speaker 5: I know we downing it. But let's jump this.
[57:50] Speaker 1: We're going to.
[57:50] Speaker 3: Jump this motherfucker this one time. Right.
[57:53] Speaker 1: But what you're saying is you got to have. No,
[57:56] Speaker 1: I'm right.
[57:56] Speaker 3: Right.
[57:56] Speaker 1: Compared to him.
[57:57] Speaker 3: But Draymond was doing that stuff for listening.
[57:59] Speaker 1: Right.
[57:59] Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying. We would have to be
[58:01] Speaker 5: on the court. We ain't got to like each other.
[58:02] Speaker 5: But I'm listening to Kenyon say, hey, we're about to
[58:05] Speaker 5: jump this motherfucker right here.
[58:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[58:07] Speaker 5: And we're going to go to the bench together. The
[58:09] Speaker 5: coach is going to be like, what y'all jumped that for?
[58:11] Speaker 5: He was like, Kenyon's going to be like, nah, I
[58:13] Speaker 5: seen something.
[58:14] Speaker 1: It's a real life situation. We playing the Lakers, dog.
[58:17] Speaker 1: Playing Kobe, and he's doing his one thing. He's playing one-on-one.
[58:22] Speaker 1: In the timeout, we break. Before we step on, I'll
[58:27] Speaker 1: bring everybody in. Like, hey, come here. When he touch it,
[58:30] Speaker 1: I'm going to run at him so y'all get ready
[58:31] Speaker 1: to rotate. Pre-rotate.
[58:33] Speaker 3: Pre-rotate.
[58:35] Speaker 1: I ain't told the coaching staff this, nothing. He ain't
[58:38] Speaker 1: made no adjustments in the timeout. I'm like, fuck.
[58:40] Speaker 5: We get sick of this. We get sick of this.
[58:43] Speaker 5: We got to do something.
[58:44] Speaker 1: Five straight jumpers, nigga. He hit the ball on the running.
[58:48] Speaker 3: The Wizards wouldn't do that, I don't feel like.
[58:50] Speaker 5: And I think that's what he's talking about as far
[58:52] Speaker 5: as everybody being good enough. But then there's the great
[58:55] Speaker 5: teams that do this, that got a guy.
[58:58] Speaker 1: And I don't think the league has guys like that.
[59:00] Speaker 5: Like DeAndre Jordan, I think, would do some shit like that,
[59:03] Speaker 5: go out there and tell you, we're going to do
[59:04] Speaker 5: this like this now.
[59:06] Speaker 1: There'd be things like I did There was a lot
[59:09] Speaker 1: of cross picks and stuff when we came in. I
[59:12] Speaker 1: tried to make y'all job easy as I could. You
[59:17] Speaker 1: don't have to worry about me and my man. Because
[59:20] Speaker 1: you know it's that old saying, bump high and then
[59:23] Speaker 1: you got to like, no. Don't worry about me. Right?
[59:29] Speaker 1: Worry about your man, right?
[59:30] Speaker 4: Last play, when we came back from Memphis, when you
[59:32] Speaker 4: had to guard Rudy Gay.
[59:35] Speaker 3: Don't worry, I don't help.
[59:38] Speaker 1: I got him. The way I go across screens, right?
[59:40] Speaker 1: The way I go across screens so you don't have
[59:42] Speaker 1: to bump. So you don't have to worry about the bump.
[59:45] Speaker 1: You can stay attached to your man and trail him
[59:46] Speaker 1: out because the play normally is going to be a
[59:48] Speaker 1: cross screen to a double screen. I don't want you
[59:51] Speaker 1: to have to be late.
[59:52] Speaker 5: Right, so you just stick to your man.
[59:54] Speaker 1: You avoid to get screened. I turn my back to
[59:56] Speaker 1: the screen, right? Whatever way he go high, I go
[59:59] Speaker 1: high with him. He go low, I go low with him.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: So I eliminate that.
[1:00:04] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: Everybody had the way they guarded screens and all that,
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: and I had my way. This is real shit, and
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: the scouting put them seven years in Denver, right? Nene, Marcus, Reggie, Eddie,
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: all the bigs we had, they guarded the traditional way
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: of guarding.
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: Meet them on the other side. Not me.
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: Throwing it over the top. Yeah, they do all that.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: You get detached, they throw it over the top. They
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: hit you with a good screen. He popped to the L. Like,
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: we ain't doing none of that. I'm going to eliminate
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: all of that so you can stay. And that's the
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: progression of the defense, right? When you got guys like
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: that mixed with good scout.
[1:00:43] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: Oh, man.
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: It's tough as an offensive player. Yeah.
[1:00:46] Speaker 5: It's very tough because you see the shit that he
[1:00:49] Speaker 5: out there doing, especially if you're talking.
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: If you're talking on defense... The offensive.
[1:00:54] Speaker 5: Guy is so frustrating because I'm not looking at the
[1:00:57] Speaker 5: guy in front of me.
[1:00:58] Speaker 3: I'm looking at the.
[1:00:59] Speaker 5: Anchor and who the fuck I got to see when
[1:01:01] Speaker 5: I get past this dude. So if I'm in my
[1:01:03] Speaker 5: offense and I see him and I'm like, I ain't
[1:01:05] Speaker 5: thinking of him, but I see this nigga Kenya 2-9
[1:01:07] Speaker 5: and across the side. Then I see somebody at the
[1:01:09] Speaker 5: nail over here and then they talking and they moving.
[1:01:12] Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I got to figure out. And then
[1:01:16] Speaker 5: it's a pick and roll. So we in the side
[1:01:18] Speaker 5: pick and roll and he in it. It was like him, KG, Varejao,
[1:01:24] Speaker 5: certain guys that will jump out there and steal the
[1:01:27] Speaker 5: ball from you. And it's like, you got to protect
[1:01:30] Speaker 5: those shit with them. He might blitz you. He very
[1:01:33] Speaker 5: rarely is going to be sitting back in the motherfucking
[1:01:35] Speaker 5: drop because that wasn't... Yeah, unless you couldn't shoot.
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: These niggas don't get sped up.
[1:01:41] Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: They do not.
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: Because they don't run. They're not uncomfortable.
[1:01:46] Speaker 5: So is it better offense? That's what I'm saying. Dudes
[1:01:49] Speaker 5: are really good offensively. I think they cool. But they
[1:01:54] Speaker 5: don't play the D that we was playing. Because the
[1:01:58] Speaker 5: defense we play, that's what really aggravates me.
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm like, that's too much drop.
[1:02:02] Speaker 5: There's not enough big stepping up and actually making.
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: Them turn the corner. Y'all watch these games. What do
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: they actually take away from guys, Nick? What do they
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: take away?
[1:02:12] Speaker 4: I feel like it's hard to take away something when
[1:02:15] Speaker 4: you have four shooters out there.
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, but for the main guy, right?
[1:02:19] Speaker 3: If you trap me, I throw it to the corner.
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: But for the main guy, right?
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: What do they take away from Luka? A cut.
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: Ain't too many bigs.
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: That's another thing. Dude, that's going to be... This is
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: the thing.
[1:02:34] Speaker 5: If you was playing us right, you knew.
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: What it was going to be.
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: We're going to be up on that screen. We're going
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: to make you get off the ball. You're good. You're
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: going to score your points because you're good individually, yes,
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: but you're going to have.
[1:02:48] Speaker 5: To come back and get it. Y'all was a big area.
[1:02:50] Speaker 5: You're going to have to come back and get it.
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: Guys, I ain't going to say we shut guys out.
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Guys were really good when we played.
[1:02:55] Speaker 5: You can't name five bigs that would match up with
[1:02:58] Speaker 5: y'all besides Joker, right?
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: But they was agile, though.
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: They wasn't just big, big, big cinder block feet.
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: I know.
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: They could move their feet. But it was a powerful
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: and it was a center.
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: You had it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me and MC was
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: holding that shit down.
[1:03:11] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:03:12] Speaker 5: Then me and Nene for a while. Yeah, both blocks, too.
[1:03:15] Speaker 5: It's like, hey, wherever you go, it's, yeah.
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like. It's the scheme, though. The scheme
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: is still. The scheme, you got to have good individual defenders,
[1:03:28] Speaker 1: guys that don't get straight line, right, that buy into
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: it all. And then when you have an anchor back
[1:03:35] Speaker 1: there with guys, they really have to pay attention to
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: where Wimby is. Right. You really have to.
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: And you got it's interchangeable positions on the on the
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: perimeter as far as like defending guys. You're not afraid
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: to put Fox on Jason Tatum. Right. Yeah. because of
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: how the game is played. Before, you would be terrified
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: to put fucking Fox on Jason Taylor. Because he's going
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: to stay to the post. We're going to take him
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: straight down that motherfucking post.
[1:04:04] Speaker 5: And your point guard is going to say, go down there.
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: Is it a different fear nowadays with the guys like Jokic,
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: guys like Wimby, guys like Embiid that can stretch the
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: floor so much that they don't even have to.
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: Worry about it? So you want them at Dome? Yeah.
[1:04:15] Speaker 5: It's a lower percentage shot.
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: Even though Joker's shooting 39 from three and B's shooting
[1:04:22] Speaker 1: the way he does and Wimpy's shooting. Listen, they are
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: doing the defense of fucking. You're shooting 70% of the time.
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: But are you.
[1:04:30] Speaker 5: Sitting back on that when Joker at the three-point line
[1:04:32] Speaker 5: like that?
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: Are you playing up? That's the thing.
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: You got to play neutral, though. No, you got to
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: pay him honors because he's such a great passer, right? Yeah,
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: you got to pay him honors. Because he's looking. He
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: out there, motherfucker. Passing that. You got to put ball pressure.
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: And B, not so much, right? You got to pass it.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: He's not passing it like that. Because that pump fake, yes.
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: You don't know whether it's a shot or a... So him,
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: you got to... The way I would guard him, I'm
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: playing him honest no matter what.
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: But if he's at the perimeter, he doing me a favor. Right?
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: I don't have to wrestle with him.
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: And you can move your feet with him.
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: He don't have any advantages on the perimeter against me. Yeah.
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: Because he– On the block, he 280. He would want
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: to block out. He 280. Yeah. He put all that
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: weight on. Gets this 230 at the time. Hey, he
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: got me by 50, 60 pounds, and he is doing
[1:05:22] Speaker 1: me a favor by.
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: Facing me up.
[1:05:24] Speaker 1: I think he would pass out of the.
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: Post, though, with you.
[1:05:27] Speaker 5: I think he would more want to pass from the
[1:05:29] Speaker 5: post than be on the perimeter. Yeah, because– I don't
[1:05:32] Speaker 5: think he– even though he would probably try to back down,
[1:05:34] Speaker 5: I still think– Your post-defense will force him to be
[1:05:38] Speaker 5: a passer.
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[1:05:40] Speaker 3: But I'm looking at how the guards actually guard the guards....
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: Way out on the perimeter more than we used to.
[1:05:49] Speaker 5: Like when you got the pick and rolls are at
[1:05:51] Speaker 5: half court and they're switching that bullshit. It ain't even
[1:05:55] Speaker 5: a real, it's a smoke screen just to get a mismatch.
[1:05:59] Speaker 5: And I'm like, why are you guarding him way out here?
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: And he's not trying to even shoot the ball.
[1:06:04] Speaker 5: And you only got three guys that can actually shoot
[1:06:07] Speaker 5: from way out there if you let them.
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: Everybody else, you're going under that shit.
[1:06:11] Speaker 5: You're out of three now, so you're playing up.
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: What are our percentages? We're playing our percentages.
[1:06:16] Speaker 1: 32%.
[1:06:19] Speaker 5: But that's all the game that changed. We couldn't shoot
[1:06:21] Speaker 5: that many. We couldn't shoot no comeback threes.
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: Like, no. But it would have to be a good thing.
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: You did.
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: And you would have to be.
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: I did.
[1:06:27] Speaker 5: But you were a capable shooter, though.
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: You were capable.
[1:06:31] Speaker 5: So your scouting report was, hey, watch out for Nick
[1:06:34] Speaker 5: on this pick and roll.
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: Don't go under. He will shoot that motherfucker. Right?
[1:06:38] Speaker 5: There were certain people. But for the most part, we
[1:06:42] Speaker 5: going under this shit because... offense for us was timing
[1:06:45] Speaker 5: and shot selection. So if you shot that bullshit shot
[1:06:48] Speaker 5: in the first five seconds of the game, we baiting
[1:06:51] Speaker 5: you into that. We're like, go under that shit, make
[1:06:53] Speaker 5: him shoot that, because that ain't.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: They game plan.
[1:06:55] Speaker 3: That ain't what they trying to get.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: You do it this way. You do that shit, bro.
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: Niggas looking at everybody looking like, bro, what you doing?
[1:07:03] Speaker 1: What the fuck they on today? Okay.
[1:07:05] Speaker 5: Oh, we breaking the play today. Okay, that's how we
[1:07:09] Speaker 5: playing today. We breaking the play. We breaking the play.
[1:07:13] Speaker 5: We waiting for one of y'all to fuck up. That's
[1:07:15] Speaker 5: what we doing?
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:07:16] Speaker 5: We not running it all the way through today.
[1:07:19] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: But just back to Wayne, I'm happy to see him being,
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: because people are looking at him as the elite defender
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: in the NBA, right? For him to be speaking up
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: for the entire league in that manner, not just his team. That's,
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? That's, That's big for the
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: league in itself. For sure. He's saying the right thing. Yeah,
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: because he's going to win the award this year.
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: That was the first time he said the right thing.
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: He's going to win the award this year and for
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: him to be speaking up in that manner.
[1:07:44] Speaker 5: But the fact, you see what they think about us, though.
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: Come here. No, because you're hearing it constantly. Listen, if
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: you're watching the game, right, from a broad perspective, You
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: are hearing this shit constantly, right? Lack of defense, lack
[1:07:58] Speaker 1: of defense, they don't play no defense, they don't play
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: no defense, lack of defense. He thinking, listen, I'm finna
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: go over this bitch in there if it's 40. He like, nah,
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: they actually scouting me, right? They actually forcing me into
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: these shots, right?
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: That's why I gotta see these monks.
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just like, who said, which one of them
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: guys said this guy's more athletic than he thought? Zachary.
[1:08:19] Speaker 3: Zachary, right?
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Where he from, he like, shit, I'm athletic as
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: they come. I was the most athletic. I'm the most
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: athletic guy in the cold. He come over here, he like.
[1:08:28] Speaker 3: There's Anthony Edwards.
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: John Moran. There's guys like that.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. Shit. My teammate Jalen Johnson. Did you see Zion?
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: What Zion was doing? He ain't seeing that on a
[1:08:42] Speaker 1: regular basis. Nah. Right? So it's that, man. But the
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: league is in good hands, man, moving forward with these guys.
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: I think they're doing a good job of competing and
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: selling the product.
[1:08:57] Speaker 4: But I think they're more accepted to some people not
[1:09:01] Speaker 4: playing defense, though.
[1:09:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: They're not accepting them. They're blasting his ass out. They're
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: blasting them out.
[1:09:09] Speaker 5: But what's more important to our culture is scoring. Scoring
[1:09:13] Speaker 5: is more important right now.
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: If he wasn't leading the league in scoring, it would
[1:09:18] Speaker 1: be a bigger deal than it is. I think everybody
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: in the top.
[1:09:24] Speaker 3: Outside of Wimby, they're not known as defenders. They're not
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: getting buckets.
[1:09:29] Speaker 5: And we look at the top last 10 years. You
[1:09:32] Speaker 5: got James, you got DKD, all these guys ain't like
[1:09:35] Speaker 5: all defensive players. So you don't really harp on their defense.
[1:09:39] Speaker 5: But you see discrepancies in certain times where you're like, damn, James,
[1:09:42] Speaker 5: you ain't going to play a defense right here? Damn, Brian,
[1:09:44] Speaker 5: you ain't going to get back on defense right here?
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: Luca, what are we doing?
[1:09:48] Speaker 5: But you're expecting that from your top player. So getting
[1:09:51] Speaker 5: a little bit of pushback is not a bad thing.
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: But then there's guys who understand when to give that extra, right?
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: I think Bron fits that. He understands. Oh, he does.
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: When April, whatever, April 18th come, That motherfucking defensive intensity,
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: that motherfucking defensive intensity motherfucking go up.
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: Him in the passing lanes.
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: His defensive intensity go up when it's winning time. You
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: have guys like that, right? That you know when it's
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: winning time, they're going to be better at that. Rondo,
[1:10:27] Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler.
[1:10:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy. Jimmy, yep, yep. Certain guys like that.
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: Let's shift back to the offensive side and keep this
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: thing moving. Talk about the Celtics and what they've got
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: going on with their dynamic duo. So Celtics back in
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: action Wednesday on the road against the Heat. looking to
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: bounce back from their loss to the Hawks on Monday.
[1:10:45] Speaker 2: Jason Tatum back in the lineup for the first time
[1:10:47] Speaker 2: since winning Eastern Conference Player of the Week after missing
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: Monday's game for injury management. Celtics dynamic duo took their
[1:10:53] Speaker 2: talents to South Beach and continued to put the East
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: on notice that they want to bring the crown back
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: to Beamtown.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the highlights if we can.
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: Celtics offense cooking from the jump in this one, putting
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: up a franchise record 53 points.
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: In the first quarter.
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: So in the first frame, Boston was 20-28 from the field,
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: 11-15 from three. Jalen Brown putting up 20 points in
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: that first quarter. Sam Houser has 17 in that quarter,
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: five for five from deep. So Jalen Brown came through
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: with his seventh 40-point game this season, had 43 points
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: on 17-29 shooting.
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: Along with seven assists.
[1:11:28] Speaker 3: He's not number two.
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jason Tatum messed around and dropped his fifth career triple-double.
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: His first this season. Tatum had 25 points, 18 rebounds,
[1:11:37] Speaker 2: 11 assists. The A-team board is just one shy of
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: tying his career high. Celtics had 147 points in this game.
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: That's going to lose this year. Hell no.
[1:11:50] Speaker 1: Motherfucking humidity down there, boys. Marvelous. They got it.
[1:11:54] Speaker 3: Bam was like, 43? It ain't 84, though.
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: 83.
[1:11:57] Speaker 4: That's what Bam been playing lately.
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: Y'all remember when I dropped 83 on the Wizards? Man.
[1:12:04] Speaker 1: I ever tell you about that?
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: I ain't got to play no more this year. That's
[1:12:07] Speaker 3: nice right there.
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: That's really nice. But Jalen Brown, like I said, doing
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: his thing. Seventh 40-point game of the season. I want
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: to say the Celtics are 5-2 when Jalen Brown goes
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: over 40.
[1:12:15] Speaker 1: Tatum. The niggas are really 2K balling. Nah, 2K. 2K
[1:12:19] Speaker 1: balling right now. No, look at this. All the moves.
[1:12:22] Speaker 3: Every move.
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: Every move is something.
[1:12:23] Speaker 3: Every move. Real nice.
[1:12:25] Speaker 1: You work on your shit against bad teams.
[1:12:28] Speaker 3: Facts.
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: Facts.
[1:12:29] Speaker 5: Let me go to this thing. Let me go to
[1:12:30] Speaker 5: my bag. They don't got no answer for this.
[1:12:34] Speaker 2: So Celtics had 147 points in the game, one shy
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: of their season high. Boston improved to 10-2 with Tatum
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: in the lineup this season.
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[1:12:43] Speaker 2: Keep a two-and-a-half game lead over the Knicks for the
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: second spot in the East.
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: So, after the game. Hold on.
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: So, first question.
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: Looking at Tatum and Brown, what they're doing now. Tatum
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: appears to get better every game. Are the Jays the
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: most dangerous duo in the league right now?
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: I told y'all. Finals.
[1:13:07] Speaker 3: They're going to the finals. We are going to the finals.
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: They ain't even got Vooch back yet. That's insane. Somebody
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: asked me yesterday. Somebody asked me who I got. I
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: was like... It's hard not to. It's hard not to.
[1:13:27] Speaker 1: Without Vooch, though. Vooch is a fucking monster.
[1:13:31] Speaker 5: To me, I think he's one of the most underrated bigs.
[1:13:35] Speaker 5: And to know that he can be down there getting rebounds. Yeah,
[1:13:40] Speaker 5: because he's like Prazingis. He can just trail.
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: And you can play through him.
[1:13:46] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:13:46] Speaker 1: Half court, you can play through him.
[1:13:48] Speaker 3: You can play splits.
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: You can do a lot of different shit with him, dawg.
[1:13:53] Speaker 3: Trail big, shoot the three.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: Oh, come on, man. What you gonna do?
[1:13:58] Speaker 5: Are you gonna go under this with JB and JP?
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: Good luck.
[1:14:04] Speaker 3: It's not.
[1:14:04] Speaker 1: Hey, that's not. That bitch is shooting that bitch. How's
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: the shooting that bitch the way they shooting? Derek White
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: out this bitch playing away.
[1:14:10] Speaker 3: Derek White stepping up.
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: They got this. Hey, they a problem.
[1:14:16] Speaker 3: They tough.
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: They got this. Spurs. Getting this boy back, man, and
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: you 10-2 with him. Yeah, that's scary. I mean, just
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: got Eastern Conference player of the week. It's scary. Put
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: up a triple-double.
[1:14:28] Speaker 5: That's the feeling they had before he got hurt. I
[1:14:32] Speaker 5: think that's the feeling they had. That's the feeling they had.
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: The game before, what did he play with? 32, 33
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: minutes of the night? Like, bruh. He playing the minutes?
[1:14:43] Speaker 3: He ramping up.
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: That was the best thing for them to get Jalen
[1:14:47] Speaker 4: Brown this type of confidence to.
[1:14:51] Speaker 5: He needed it. He needed it. But he's been training well.
[1:14:55] Speaker 5: He's been out there training with Dash. And they've been
[1:14:57] Speaker 5: getting to them spots. When you get constantly that repetition
[1:15:01] Speaker 5: of getting to these spots and then you go out
[1:15:03] Speaker 5: there in the field and you see it working and
[1:15:05] Speaker 5: you're like, oh, they can't fuck with this. And I
[1:15:08] Speaker 5: ain't even getting to the free throw line like that.
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: Cade uncertain about his future or how he going to
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: be and what he going to be able to do
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: when he come back. The rest of it. And the
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: Knicks should be ashamed of themselves.
[1:15:20] Speaker 3: They should be.
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: The Knicks should be fucking ashamed of themselves, dog.
[1:15:23] Speaker 3: Ever since the cup.
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:15:26] Speaker 3: Ever since the cut, they've been trashed.
[1:15:27] Speaker 1: They should be ashamed of themselves.
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: So, Kenny, to your point, Tatum's played 35-plus minutes in
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: three of the last four games.
[1:15:35] Speaker 1: That's scary, man.
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: Played over 30 minutes in nine straight games.
[1:15:40] Speaker 5: And you got them both playing like that. Wait till
[1:15:42] Speaker 5: he start feeling them hops come back. He start dunking
[1:15:45] Speaker 5: that shit, all that shit, left-hand shit he was doing
[1:15:47] Speaker 5: just now.
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: Then he dunks. 18 rebounds, rebounding the ball at the hockey. Triple-double? No,
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: it's scary for the East. Yeah. Uh, yeah, it is
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: scary for the East, and I would, I'd put my
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: money on them to come out the East. For sure,
[1:16:01] Speaker 1: right now.
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: In the Heat, obviously they have something to play for
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: a tenth in the East right now, but there's a
[1:16:05] Speaker 2: bunch of teams clumped up.
[1:16:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, they getting, yeah, if we get smacked like that
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: at home, you playing for something? You still, you still
[1:16:11] Speaker 1: trying to play to get the ball? You get smacked,
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: give up 150 at home, and you playing for something?
[1:16:14] Speaker 1: 53 in the first quarter. That's insane. 147 points in
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: the game.
[1:16:17] Speaker 5: I just got what you said.
[1:16:18] Speaker 3: He had 18 rebounds.
[1:16:19] Speaker 1: 18 boards.
[1:16:20] Speaker 3: He was going for the 20. He was going for
[1:16:22] Speaker 3: the 20.
[1:16:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:16:24] Speaker 3: So Tatum's like, shit, all right, Brown, I'm going to
[1:16:26] Speaker 3: do everything else.
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing 30-something. That's a good team, though. That's
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's what I was saying for
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: him when he came in. Yes, he accepted, I'm going
[1:16:33] Speaker 1: to do all the other shit. That's what makes good teams, too, though.
[1:16:35] Speaker 3: But remember, the roles were reversed. Yeah.
[1:16:38] Speaker 5: I felt like Jason Tatum was how Brown is playing.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: Let me go get my 39, 43.
[1:16:43] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. And Jalen Brown was like, go ahead. JT
[1:16:46] Speaker 5: was always a good rebounder, though. He was always getting
[1:16:48] Speaker 5: nine or ten boards. But I think now he's like,
[1:16:51] Speaker 5: I can actually go and pass that bitch around now.
[1:16:54] Speaker 1: And get my 22, 25, 12.
[1:16:54] Speaker 3: That's a different dude.
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: Before, it was reliant when the ball, late shot clock,
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: all the pressure was on him. The ball, everybody trying
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: to find JT. Now, you got Jalen where he's a
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: two-headed monster out there in that situation. He don't have
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: to chase down the ball to go get it in
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: the late game. Now you got another boy who's confidence,
[1:17:20] Speaker 1: who's all... Jalen Brown was already a killer. You get
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: this killer confidence. Not saying that his confidence had ever wavered.
[1:17:34] Speaker 1: He always believed in himself. But to be the number
[1:17:37] Speaker 1: one And to be holding the fort down in that regard, man.
[1:17:42] Speaker 3: People see.
[1:17:43] Speaker 5: Yeah, shine a light on them and be like, yeah,
[1:17:45] Speaker 5: we watching you.
[1:17:46] Speaker 3: Show out, nigga. Show out. Yeah, I love that shit.
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: That shit's fire.
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: And we talked about this a little yesterday, Swaggy, but
[1:17:52] Speaker 2: since Brown had that eight-point game when he got booted early.
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: I told you.
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: And the nine games since then, he's averaged a 32.6 rebounds.
[1:17:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: Six assists.
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: So it's not like having Tatum back.
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: Slowing him down.
[1:18:03] Speaker 2: It's only elevated.
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: His game. Yeah, now he's not facing double teams. Listen,
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: just imagine.
[1:18:10] Speaker 3: I can't get the button.
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: He was doing all of that. He said his numbers
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: would be more up. Now he won't have to face that.
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: Now you got Jay Tatum. You can play one-on-one now.
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: More up from his stats. Is it more up from
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: his stats? It would be.
[1:18:22] Speaker 5: More up from his stats right now. Instead of 32,
[1:18:25] Speaker 5: it would be 34.
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: So the same thing that Gil was saying before, right?
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: Just press the button. Like people were saying, it's easy
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: for numbers. It's easy for Jalen Brown to get off
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: because Jason Tatum playing against two. That was people were
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: saying before, right? It's easy for Jalen Brown to get
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: off because Jason Tatum faces all the double team. Yeah.
[1:18:42] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown has been going through that all season facing
[1:18:44] Speaker 1: double team just that in the third, right? So now
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: he gets to play one-on-one. Now you cannot double him now.
[1:18:49] Speaker 1: because you got that killer out there back.
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: Pick your poison.
[1:18:55] Speaker 2: Would you say those two, obviously there's a lot of
[1:18:57] Speaker 2: dangerous duos across the league. Not Dimension, but those two
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: that they're playing right now.
[1:19:01] Speaker 1: Better than them two? Can you name one? Name one.
[1:19:09] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: I can name one.
[1:19:10] Speaker 3: Castle and Wimby.
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: I didn't say better. I didn't say better.
[1:19:13] Speaker 5: You know where I was going with the other ones.
[1:19:15] Speaker 1: I'm not saying better than that. I ain't saying better.
[1:19:18] Speaker 1: Jamal and Joker. Man. Wimby and Castle.
[1:19:21] Speaker 3: That's their first year. I give it to them. He deserved.
[1:19:24] Speaker 5: He been deserved by all-star.
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: Luka, AR, Luka, Ward. That's nowhere near that. Second team
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: All-NBA this year.
[1:19:28] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. No.
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:19:30] Speaker 1: Third. Second. Third. Who else playing better? Besides the ones
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: that's going to be on first team. He's 26, 26, 7,
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: and 5. First team. First team All-NBA.
[1:19:41] Speaker 3: You got Tucker first team.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: First team All-NBA.
[1:19:44] Speaker 3: Maxie not in. He ain't qualified. You got Shea.
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: Shea first team.
[1:19:47] Speaker 3: You got Wimby going to be on there.
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: First team. That's three. Luca. K. Yo, Kawhi. Second team.
[1:19:56] Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxie.
[1:19:57] Speaker 3: 29, 74.
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: Second team. Brunson. Third team. Brunson is a little. Third team.
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell.
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: Second or third team. Jamal Murray is second or third
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: team All-NBA.
[1:20:07] Speaker 3: Jalen Durden?
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. Second or third team All-NBA.
[1:20:11] Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson? That's a lot of names y'all are listening to.
[1:20:14] Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: A lot of guys got good stats. Jamal Murray will
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: be second or third team All-NBA this year.
[1:20:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: It's about that time for him. He got to make
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: his first third. If Kade don't qualify, then you got that.
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: And Nikola can only miss one more game.
[1:20:34] Speaker 5: Kawhi definitely going to make it.
[1:20:37] Speaker 1: Second or third. Second or third. But what Jamal Murray
[1:20:42] Speaker 1: is doing when Nikola was out. Don't forget Nikola missed time.
[1:20:49] Speaker 2: You got Jalen Johnson averaging 23-10-8 right now. The Hawks
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: climbing up the East 15-2 in their last game. 17 games.
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: The Boston boys are fifth right now. You got guys
[1:21:01] Speaker 2: that's ahead of you. It's tough. I mean, I can't.
[1:21:05] Speaker 2: You got to give it to them. Joker and Murray,
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: you got to give it to them.
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: Man, shut me up. As far as a duo?
[1:21:12] Speaker 3: Duo?
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: I am. Duo? Duo.
[1:21:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, duo. Like, one, two, punt.
[1:21:20] Speaker 4: Ain't no duo even coming close to Jalen Brown and
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: Jason Taylor.
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: One, two, punt.
[1:21:24] Speaker 3: Did you see that?
[1:21:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:21:25] Speaker 5: Do anything look better than that? Look, them niggas is, like,
[1:21:29] Speaker 5: stalking them alone out there, bro. Them two over there,
[1:21:32] Speaker 5: they stalking them alone, bro.
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: They had 37. Last night.
[1:21:35] Speaker 4: T-Mac and Kobe, they played on the same team.
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: Yes. Come on, man. If it was a film.
[1:21:39] Speaker 5: We ain't never seen that before.
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We've seen Stockton and Malone.
[1:21:44] Speaker 1: It looked crazy. Where Jason Tatum is now, coming back. Before,
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: I don't think it was a question.
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: Vincent T-Mac. Vincent T-Mac in Toronto.
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
[1:21:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: Got Big Dog and Ray.
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: Big Dog and fucking Ray Allen.
[1:21:59] Speaker 1: Sheesh.
[1:22:01] Speaker 4: They're not doing none of the moves right there.
[1:22:03] Speaker 1: I know, bro. I agree with you. I agree.
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: That's Vincent T-Mac if they were to stay.
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: For sure. For sure. Yeah, but you can go out
[1:22:12] Speaker 1: and get, like he said, you can go out. I
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: like that. Jamal Murray had 37. Joe had triple-double.
[1:22:17] Speaker 3: Triple-double.
[1:22:17] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown had 40. Jason Tatum, triple-double. You know what
[1:22:21] Speaker 1: I'm saying?
[1:22:22] Speaker 5: And then it goes down to what it looks like
[1:22:23] Speaker 5: at the end of the day.
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: That's what it is.
[1:22:25] Speaker 5: Because that's boring. Their shit is boring. This shit is exciting,
[1:22:29] Speaker 5: but it's still equally a power.
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: So let's just say this. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: are the best duo in the East. Nicola and... No, no, no.
[1:22:38] Speaker 5: They all lead. We go first. We go second. We
[1:22:40] Speaker 5: let them be second.
[1:22:41] Speaker 1: No, we don't like second. We like first. Well, you're
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: third now. Well, we ain't the second most greatest. We
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: ain't the second most greatest. Second most greatest. You ain't
[1:22:50] Speaker 1: got no choice now. You ain't got no choice now.
[1:22:52] Speaker 1: You're going to be the second most greatest. You can't
[1:22:54] Speaker 1: be the first most greatest.
[1:22:55] Speaker 3: Goddamn. You got to be second.
[1:22:57] Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
[1:22:57] Speaker 3: Second most greatest. Ain't no more shit. Oh, yeah.
[1:23:03] Speaker 1: Jalen. I mean, Jalen Williams ain't been shit. Not this year.
[1:23:09] Speaker 1: He been hurt a lot this year. You can throw SGA,
[1:23:12] Speaker 1: Chet potentially. No, he's not. Chet brings defensively.
[1:23:14] Speaker 3: I'm just.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: No. That's fine. That ain't. No. They ain't even in
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: the conversation. They ain't even in the conversation. I put
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: Caden Durden in there before I put Chet on the
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: list with Shea. That's duo.
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: Bronson and Towns?
[1:23:32] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:23:32] Speaker 3: Bronson and Towns?
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: That's the best duo?
[1:23:37] Speaker 3: Honorable mention.
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, honorable mention 10.
[1:23:41] Speaker 3: Oh, um... Mitchell and James?
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: James Harden?
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: Wait, Mobley?
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: Mobley, one of them. They're in the top ten. Probably.
[1:23:51] Speaker 3: You gotta go James now. Yeah, you gotta go James.
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: You can go ten then. Top ten. It's tough. It's
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: a lot of good shit out there right now. But duos, though? Like,
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: as far as two that's getting it done? What they
[1:24:04] Speaker 1: look like at this particular moment?
[1:24:06] Speaker 5: Is Luka LeBron or is Luka AR? Because at this moment,
[1:24:10] Speaker 5: right now, it's Luka AR. But it was.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: Luka and Bron is the It.
[1:24:16] Speaker 3: Never looked good. It never looked good to me. It
[1:24:18] Speaker 3: just never.
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: You got two alphas. Luca and Aiden. Luca Aiden would
[1:24:22] Speaker 1: be more disgusting.
[1:24:24] Speaker 3: Ant-Man and Julius Randall?
[1:24:27] Speaker 1: Ant-Man and Julius? Nah. Ain't enough. No, it ain't enough.
[1:24:32] Speaker 1: Ain't enough.
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: Fox and... Oh, you put... I put Castle up there.
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: Castle and Wimby.
[1:24:36] Speaker 5: Fox and Wimby? Castle and Wimby. We'd be a better...
[1:24:39] Speaker 5: Castle and Wimby. Because Fox is an all-star. Yeah, Fox
[1:24:41] Speaker 5: and Wimby. Castle locks up, too.
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: But Castle... That's why I say Castle. He's probably the best.
[1:24:46] Speaker 3: He's the best one, two, three. Are they the best one, two, three?
[1:24:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now? I give you that one. Luka, Bron, A.R.
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. They probably a good second. Yeah,
[1:24:57] Speaker 3: that's a good one. That's a good second.
[1:24:59] Speaker 1: That's a good one.
[1:25:00] Speaker 3: It would have been Shay, Chet.
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: No.
[1:25:04] Speaker 5: It would have if they were. It's normally them, but. Yeah,
[1:25:08] Speaker 5: it's a good solid basketball. Aiden and Luka, for sure.
[1:25:11] Speaker 1: For sure. For sure.
[1:25:12] Speaker 5: It's what it's supposed to be. He said, I ain't
[1:25:16] Speaker 5: compelled out here, goddamn.
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: I should clip better.
[1:25:19] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: You gonna take.
[1:25:22] Speaker 5: Clint he left the league and rebounded he did yes
[1:25:25] Speaker 5: he did he go get the fourth left the league
[1:25:28] Speaker 5: and rebounded yes he did he did he played very
[1:25:31] Speaker 5: well Clint did his job like man lob threat block
[1:25:35] Speaker 5: shot all that run the four average 15 rebounds a.
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: Night for sure DeAndre is playing very well right.
[1:25:42] Speaker 5: Now what is his number right now the last like
[1:25:45] Speaker 5: 10 on the season what do you have on the
[1:25:47] Speaker 5: season ball Miller can nibble good.
[1:25:51] Speaker 1: For the three, for the three-headed monkey.
[1:25:53] Speaker 3: Underrated. Nice.
[1:25:54] Speaker 1: Underrated. Eight and averaging 12 and eight. The fuck out
[1:25:57] Speaker 1: of here.
[1:25:59] Speaker 5: But that's the numbers we said he was.
[1:26:01] Speaker 2: Going to get 27 minutes.
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:26:04] Speaker 5: I said he was supposed to be at least 18.
[1:26:06] Speaker 5: We said 17, 18. We said double, double. Double, double.
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: 17 and 10.
[1:26:13] Speaker 5: That's what you need for the Lakers to win. That's
[1:26:16] Speaker 5: what we said it is.
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: 68% from the field? No, on the season. No, no, Nick,
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: fuck that.
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: 10 games.
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: Because they're 8 and 2. They were 8 and 2
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: in their last 10? Yeah. 8 and 2 in their
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: last 10?
[1:26:20] Speaker 3: Cool.
[1:26:20] Speaker 8: 12 and 8 ain't going to get it done, brother.
[1:26:31] Speaker 3: Nah.
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: Because he ain't going to average that. He barely averaged
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: that in the playoff series. Last 10 games? What did
[1:26:35] Speaker 1: he average? 12 and 8. 12 and 8. Damn. So
[1:26:37] Speaker 1: he's consistent. Damn, he's stuck on.
[1:26:39] Speaker 3: Well, remember, he made his mind up.
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to be this guy.
[1:26:41] Speaker 3: I'm going to be Kent. I'm going to be Clint.
[1:26:43] Speaker 3: It doesn't get better at you.
[1:26:44] Speaker 1: 12 and 8? Since you want me to be him,
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: I'll be him.
[1:26:46] Speaker 3: Since you want me to be him.
[1:26:47] Speaker 1: Shit. Listen. Damn. 12 and 8. Hold up. Shit, Clint
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: averaged a double-double. 11, 12, 12 and 12.
[1:26:53] Speaker 3: Yeah. 15.
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: You're in, you're out. Last two games. 15 and 8,
[1:26:59] Speaker 1: but still. 15 and 8? He's stuck at 8, nigga. Nah,
[1:27:04] Speaker 1: he don't get the fucking ball.
[1:27:05] Speaker 3: But rebounds is 8. Huh?
[1:27:08] Speaker 5: You can rebound that motherfucker. He don't need to. He
[1:27:11] Speaker 5: one of them I need motivation to go get the
[1:27:14] Speaker 5: board type shit.
[1:27:14] Speaker 3: For sure. Let me touch that motherfucker to get it.
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, take it out of bounds, nigga. Get it off
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: the glass, bro. You can touch it as much as, listen,
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: you can touch the ball as much as you want
[1:27:24] Speaker 1: and get it off the glass.
[1:27:24] Speaker 3: Hey, guess what kind of big he is.
[1:27:26] Speaker 1: He the big that let.
[1:27:28] Speaker 5: The ball hit the ground and run down court when
[1:27:30] Speaker 5: you like, hey, man, take the ball out.
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: No, nigga, you take the ball out. He run down
[1:27:33] Speaker 1: the floor. Yeah, you can touch the ball as much
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: as you want. Rebound it, nigga. Average more than eight rebounds.
[1:27:39] Speaker 1: You can touch that bitch. Damn it.
[1:27:41] Speaker 3: Every possession.
[1:27:42] Speaker 1: I'm about to shoot it right now. Yeah. All right.
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: Get this. You know what?
[1:27:46] Speaker 3: Back three. You can get some rebounds. I bet you'll
[1:27:49] Speaker 3: be bouncing.
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: Boom.
[1:27:50] Speaker 3: Right. A little more on Tatum.
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: They don't try. Yeah.
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: So, like I said, Tatum continued to impress in his
[1:27:56] Speaker 2: return to the court, looking more and more like himself. So,
[1:27:59] Speaker 2: Celtics beat reporter Noah Dozzle asked Tatum if there has
[1:28:02] Speaker 2: been a turning point with the joy he felt being
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: back on the court. And he talked about some advice
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: that he got from Klay Thompson.
[1:28:10] Speaker 9: Klay told me this after we played him the first time.
[1:28:12] Speaker 9: He was like, man, you look great. He was like,
[1:28:16] Speaker 9: one thing he wished he did more, I guess, when
[1:28:19] Speaker 9: he first came back, was just give himself more grace.
[1:28:21] Speaker 1: He was like, man, not too many.
[1:28:23] Speaker 9: People understand what this injury is like and coming back
[1:28:26] Speaker 9: and the ups and downs physically and mentally that you
[1:28:29] Speaker 9: deal with.
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: That's just something I've tried to continue to remind myself.
[1:28:34] Speaker 9: You know, it's a balance of being a weak competitor
[1:28:38] Speaker 9: and wanting to be the best version of yourself. But
[1:28:43] Speaker 9: it's just, you know, I just kind of try to
[1:28:45] Speaker 9: remember I came a long way and I'm grateful to
[1:28:50] Speaker 9: be where I'm at. I wasn't 100% sure I was
[1:28:53] Speaker 9: even going to be able to play this year. So
[1:28:55] Speaker 9: the fact that I'm able to go out there and contribute,
[1:29:00] Speaker 9: even what I'm doing now, is a big one.
[1:29:04] Speaker 2: So Tatum was going to ask if he's been applying
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: Clay's advice.
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: My man's in smoke, man.
[1:29:08] Speaker 2: He replied, and I'm with Smoke Machine currently. We have
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: some issues in the area. But he said he's trying
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: to find the joy but still gets frustrated. Also, he
[1:29:18] Speaker 2: didn't want to come back and be a role player.
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Tatum's mindset since returning to
[1:29:23] Speaker 2: the court? That's a hard thing to do, return from
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: an Achilles injury. He was frustrated initially with not being
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: able to come in right away and do what he do, but.
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: Human nature, man. It's part of the process. Someone who
[1:29:39] Speaker 1: dealt with two microfracture surgeries and having to rehab from
[1:29:45] Speaker 1: that and Many restrictions, uncertainty, when and if you're going
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: to be able to play. Yeah, but allowing yourself, because
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: we all, well, we look in the mirror and we
[1:29:57] Speaker 1: see Superman still, right? We see the pre-injured person. We
[1:30:02] Speaker 1: don't see what's going on internally. So we still think
[1:30:07] Speaker 1: that we can go out and compete like we did
[1:30:09] Speaker 1: and play it like we did before the injury. So
[1:30:12] Speaker 1: what Clay told him was accurate, right? allow yourself some
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: grace with this man, because there are going to be
[1:30:17] Speaker 1: days where you're not going to be yourself. You're not
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: going to play as well as you think you should
[1:30:21] Speaker 1: be playing. You're not going to feel like it. It
[1:30:24] Speaker 1: just happens. It's human nature.
[1:30:27] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: And to have someone like clay that's played at a
[1:30:31] Speaker 1: high level, that's one at a high level and had
[1:30:34] Speaker 1: to deal with this, um, to have someone like that
[1:30:37] Speaker 1: to lean on is, is great. Right. Um, someone who
[1:30:41] Speaker 1: you respect, um, And to take the advice and use it, right?
[1:30:49] Speaker 1: They can say whatever to you, but to take the
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: advice and use it is a testament to Jason Tatum's
[1:30:55] Speaker 1: open-mindedness to outsource things, right? Because we don't know it all.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: This is his first time dealing with something like this.
[1:31:02] Speaker 1: So he don't know how to go about it. And
[1:31:05] Speaker 1: that's the best advice that he could have received, I think,
[1:31:08] Speaker 1: was to allow yourself grace with this. Because you're not
[1:31:11] Speaker 1: going to be yourself every day right away. So give
[1:31:14] Speaker 1: it time. So I think it's dope.
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: Looks like he's getting closer and closer to himself. He
[1:31:20] Speaker 2: was their conference player of the week last week.
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: Triple-double. But you do.
[1:31:24] Speaker 5: Hear the noise, like people talking, I think, before that.
[1:31:28] Speaker 5: Is he going to be the same? He's shooting a
[1:31:30] Speaker 5: lot of shots, and he's not making a lot of shots.
[1:31:33] Speaker 1: Struggling from the field initially. Shoot or shoot, right? Shoot
[1:31:38] Speaker 1: or shoot.
[1:31:39] Speaker 5: But that's dope that Klay, you know, that's who.
[1:31:42] Speaker 3: The Warriors are this.
[1:31:46] Speaker 4: Like Kay said I'm glad he listened that shows a
[1:31:51] Speaker 4: testament to why they are who they are why Boston
[1:31:54] Speaker 4: Celtics are you could have been listening to the media
[1:31:58] Speaker 4: try to separate you and Jalen Brown but you know
[1:32:01] Speaker 4: you still end up winning the championship.
[1:32:04] Speaker 3: You become you.
[1:32:08] Speaker 4: Accept your role when Jalen's you know being a MVP
[1:32:12] Speaker 4: candidate It's a sign to a good teammate. It's a
[1:32:15] Speaker 4: sign to an open mind. It's a sign to somebody
[1:32:17] Speaker 4: that knows who he is, is confident in himself. The
[1:32:25] Speaker 4: best advice is to not listen to the outside noise.
[1:32:30] Speaker 3: You don't know it all.
[1:32:35] Speaker 2: Rashad, when you hear Tatum talk, I think Tatum scored
[1:32:37] Speaker 2: over 20 points in eight of the 12 games since
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: he's been back. Had a season-high 32. Sunday, came back,
[1:32:45] Speaker 2: 25-point triple-double.
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: He ducking? Ducking. Thank you, underdog. What'd I say? I said,
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: it's better for him to duck if he gonna win it.
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: That's the only chance he got.
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: Shit.
[1:32:59] Speaker 1: Ducking Kawhi. I had my money.
[1:33:00] Speaker 5: I said the Clippers gonna win, so yeah.
[1:33:04] Speaker 1: Hmm. No, um.
[1:33:07] Speaker 5: I remember when I came back from my microfracture, first
[1:33:10] Speaker 5: person I asked was, um, No, I didn't even ask him.
[1:33:12] Speaker 5: He actually said something to me because I had came back.
[1:33:15] Speaker 5: Grant Hill told me, he's like, it's going to take
[1:33:19] Speaker 5: you a year to get back to where you feel
[1:33:22] Speaker 5: comfortable doing a bunch of shit. Because I was struggling
[1:33:26] Speaker 5: with trying to figure out whether or not it felt
[1:33:29] Speaker 5: normal to do certain movements. But I was out there
[1:33:32] Speaker 5: playing because you could still play. But it's like, you
[1:33:35] Speaker 5: feel like you're a shell of yourself. You're like, damn,
[1:33:37] Speaker 5: I'm anticipating certain shit. He knew it right away. He
[1:33:41] Speaker 5: felt it. He was playing with the Suns. He was like,
[1:33:43] Speaker 5: it's going to take you a little bit, bro. Don't
[1:33:45] Speaker 5: even worry about it. Take your time.
[1:33:47] Speaker 3: Get out here. Push the limits. Take chances, but.
[1:33:51] Speaker 5: Don't get down on yourself for not being who you
[1:33:53] Speaker 5: think you're supposed to be. And I think that was,
[1:33:56] Speaker 5: that's something that definitely helped me. I ended up having
[1:33:59] Speaker 5: my best year the next year, going into that summer
[1:34:02] Speaker 5: and prepping that way. But I had to get the
[1:34:04] Speaker 5: kinks out. You know, you got to get that, that
[1:34:07] Speaker 5: bullshit out where you look and feel like it's just, ah,
[1:34:10] Speaker 5: this ain't.
[1:34:11] Speaker 3: Going to be the same.
[1:34:12] Speaker 5: But I don't think that's happened for him. I think
[1:34:14] Speaker 5: that first game for Jason Tatum was that. That was it.
[1:34:17] Speaker 5: It was that, ah, I'm rusty.
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: Mr. Dunk got hung.
[1:34:21] Speaker 5: All that shit happened. It's like, damn, I ain't who
[1:34:24] Speaker 5: I thought I was. I thought I was ready. But, no,
[1:34:28] Speaker 5: it's beautiful to see him fight through it. The adversity
[1:34:30] Speaker 5: is always a good thing to go through. So to
[1:34:33] Speaker 5: see him keep growing and keep growing and teammates have
[1:34:36] Speaker 5: his back, Shit, I think by the time the second
[1:34:39] Speaker 5: round comes.
[1:34:39] Speaker 3: They can get through it. He'll be on his way.
[1:34:42] Speaker 4: I don't think players understand how much confidence hearing your
[1:34:46] Speaker 4: peers say something that uplifts you or motivates you in
[1:34:53] Speaker 4: a certain type of way has an effect on you, too,
[1:34:57] Speaker 4: on your game.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: Facts.
[1:34:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. Especially in the lights in the game.
[1:35:02] Speaker 1: Yeah. Where we've been known to. It could be the
[1:35:04] Speaker 1: littlest things sometimes.
[1:35:06] Speaker 4: But just the support from, you know, your peers means
[1:35:11] Speaker 4: a lot that we don't shine the light on that too, though.
[1:35:14] Speaker 3: Acknowledgement. Acknowledgement, yeah. Just acknowledging.
[1:35:17] Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes you don't be knowing niggas either. Right. Fuck
[1:35:19] Speaker 1: with your game or not. For real.
[1:35:20] Speaker 3: Like, hey, bro, you woo-woo.
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: Like, oh, for real? Oh, shit, you?
[1:35:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:35:25] Speaker 5: I don't need nobody else to say shit to me. Like, oh,
[1:35:29] Speaker 5: you like my game? Oh, man, fuck it then. Fuck
[1:35:31] Speaker 5: everybody else.
[1:35:32] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: That shit crazy.
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's... Stay in the Eastern Conference.
[1:35:38] Speaker 2: Shorthanded Pistons had OKC on the ropes Monday, taking the
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: defending champs to overtime without their top five scorers in
[1:35:46] Speaker 2: that loss. Followed that up with a win over the
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: Raptors Tuesday to all but lock up the top seed
[1:35:50] Speaker 2: in the East with Jalen Dern dropping 31 points and
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: nine boards in that win. So despite losing their franchise
[1:35:55] Speaker 2: player for the foreseeable future, the Pistons haven't missed a beat.
[1:36:00] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at it. Interesting numbers, I want
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: your guys' opinion on. So Detroit, 11-4 without Cade Cunningham
[1:36:05] Speaker 2: this season. 7-2 in the last nine games without their
[1:36:09] Speaker 2: franchise player, which includes the game he left with a
[1:36:11] Speaker 2: punctured lung after only playing five minutes. The Pistons actually
[1:36:14] Speaker 2: have a higher win percentage in the 15 games without
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: Cade this season than the 61 he's played.
[1:36:20] Speaker 1: Who did they play?
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: Like I said, the Pistons have a four-game lead over
[1:36:24] Speaker 2: the Celtics for the top spot in the East. Six
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: games remaining, but they own the tiebreaker, so the Celtics.
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: Who they played since then? NBA teams? Teams in the
[1:36:34] Speaker 1: National Basketball Association. Teams that was on the schedule before
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: K got hurt?
[1:36:38] Speaker 3: It was New Orleans.
[1:36:40] Speaker 1: Okay. NBA team?
[1:36:43] Speaker 4: They beat them. They beat Minnesota. So it was kind
[1:36:48] Speaker 4: of even. Lost to OKC. Beat the Lakers. Snapped their
[1:36:52] Speaker 4: nine-game winning streak.
[1:36:53] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:36:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that game. Oh, they beat the Wizards twice.
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: Cool, down the schedule.
[1:37:00] Speaker 3: The West Coast Wizards going to state after that. The
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: West Coast Wizards. Nasty.
[1:37:04] Speaker 1: Nasty.
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: Wizards, Wizards. Wizards, Wizards. New Orleans. Lost to the Hawks
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: by one in overtime. Lost to the Thunder in overtime.
[1:37:11] Speaker 5: They had a good little schedule right there. A winnable schedule.
[1:37:15] Speaker 5: Very winnable. Yeah, we need to close these games out
[1:37:18] Speaker 5: and win these joints. Got to win when we need
[1:37:20] Speaker 5: to win. Yeah, for sure.
[1:37:21] Speaker 1: Missing their best player.
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:37:23] Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
[1:37:24] Speaker 3: But to beat the Lakers was a good win.
[1:37:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one. They missed the Cade.
[1:37:27] Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart also been hurt.
[1:37:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:37:30] Speaker 2: Some time, I think, with a calf strain. I'm saying
[1:37:32] Speaker 2: this is not the Bad Boys 2.0 Piston Squad that
[1:37:35] Speaker 2: they're rolling out there, but they're seeing some big contributions
[1:37:38] Speaker 2: from other guys on the roster.
[1:37:39] Speaker 4: They're trying to make this something without Cade. I'm just
[1:37:43] Speaker 4: pointing out that... That would be coaching, though, right? It's
[1:37:45] Speaker 4: just information. There would be more coaching, right?
[1:37:47] Speaker 5: Lakers lost to Atlanta, beat New Orleans, beat Memphis.
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: Lost to OKC. Even the games they're losing, though. Big Toronto. Yeah.
[1:37:55] Speaker 1: Big Thunder, the overtime.
[1:37:57] Speaker 3: Solid.
[1:37:58] Speaker 5: Lost by one of the Hawks in overtime. It was
[1:37:59] Speaker 5: like two games, Toronto, Lakers. Yeah, they lost it.
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, the Oklahoma City game, they took them boys to
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: overtime where they played 5G league guys. Facts.
[1:38:08] Speaker 3: I remember that.
[1:38:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:38:09] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, without their top five scorers in
[1:38:11] Speaker 2: that game, they compete. They play hard. That's why, yeah.
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: Dern was out for that game. Dern was out that game. So,
[1:38:19] Speaker 2: do you guys like how the Pistons have responded without
[1:38:22] Speaker 2: Cade Cunningham? They could have easily... went on a skid,
[1:38:25] Speaker 2: tricked off, top spot in the East.
[1:38:27] Speaker 3: Well, Nick definitely said it was going to be trash.
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: Booty juice after that. Yeah, I did.
[1:38:31] Speaker 1: Booty juice.
[1:38:32] Speaker 3: But they done showed up.
[1:38:35] Speaker 1: They have.
[1:38:37] Speaker 3: They going to be number one for sure. But I
[1:38:40] Speaker 3: don't know.
[1:38:40] Speaker 5: I don't think this is going to work in the playoffs, though.
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: Well, they should have Cade back for the playoffs.
[1:38:50] Speaker 3: I like it.
[1:38:50] Speaker 5: They're keeping it consistent. Keep it consistent. JB ain't got
[1:38:55] Speaker 5: them wavering. He got them still clicking on all cylinders.
[1:38:58] Speaker 5: Then that just goes to show it's more of a
[1:38:59] Speaker 5: system play. Is it? They put Jenkins in cave position.
[1:39:05] Speaker 5: It's just guys waiting on the opportunity.
[1:39:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:39:09] Speaker 5: That means you got a bench full of guys that's
[1:39:11] Speaker 5: actually doing what they need to do.
[1:39:13] Speaker 3: Staying prepared.
[1:39:14] Speaker 5: Buying into the scouting report and everything that's being done.
[1:39:17] Speaker 5: Where they want to go with the ball. Think about
[1:39:19] Speaker 5: the offense without Jalen Durden out there. You got no K,
[1:39:23] Speaker 5: no Jalen. Like, what the hell is the Pistons? Tobias Harris?
[1:39:29] Speaker 5: They better than the Wizards still.
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. They winning.
[1:39:33] Speaker 5: They better than the Warriors still. So I think them
[1:39:36] Speaker 5: games give you confidence. But them toss-up games, though. Them
[1:39:39] Speaker 5: would toss up games for the other teams to come
[1:39:41] Speaker 5: in and steal. We playing against the number one team, Pistons,
[1:39:45] Speaker 5: without their main guys. We could steal these games.
[1:39:47] Speaker 3: Yeah. and they ended up winning and be able to
[1:39:49] Speaker 3: hold them off, that's commendable.
[1:39:52] Speaker 2: So here's the situation, though, in the Eastern Conference. You've
[1:39:54] Speaker 2: got the Raptors in seventh currently. Could potentially be the
[1:39:57] Speaker 2: Sixers who have climbed to the sixth spot. Who would
[1:40:00] Speaker 2: you rather play there?
[1:40:02] Speaker 3: Who would you rather play?
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: Raptors seventh, Hornets eighth right now.
[1:40:05] Speaker 5: Really?
[1:40:06] Speaker 2: We're looking at potential Pistons, Hornets. After the fisticuffs they
[1:40:09] Speaker 2: got into, I asked you guys about this a couple
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: weeks ago.
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: Yeah. Hornets would be an issue.
[1:40:14] Speaker 3: Yeah. So what's the– I'm looking at play, Ian.
[1:40:18] Speaker 2: So, playing right now is Raptors at 7th, Hornets 8th,
[1:40:22] Speaker 2: Magic 9th.
[1:40:23] Speaker 5: Hornets 40 wins, Orlando 40 wins, Miami 40 wins.
[1:40:27] Speaker 2: So, Magic and Hornets are both 40 and 36 right now.
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: Hornets have the tiebreaker.
[1:40:31] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Magic don't look the same.
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: And what happened over there?
[1:40:37] Speaker 3: Polo. Polo crashed.
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: It's been in and out. They ain't been healthy.
[1:40:41] Speaker 5: But they was supposed to be like. Yeah, fifth, sixth, fourth.
[1:40:46] Speaker 5: At least up there, three.
[1:40:47] Speaker 1: Three.
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably be on some Spurs, Pistons shit this year.
[1:40:51] Speaker 5: The Wagner boys got hurt. The Impalo got hurt. Yeah,
[1:40:56] Speaker 5: they've been sliding. And I don't really trust the Miami Heat,
[1:40:58] Speaker 5: so I can see the Pistons-Hornets match up.
[1:41:05] Speaker 1: I like that. That'll be easy. I think that'll be
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: easy for the Detroit.
[1:41:10] Speaker 3: Without Cade or with Cade?
[1:41:12] Speaker 1: No, Cade has to play. Cade will be there. Has
[1:41:14] Speaker 1: to play. Hell, yeah.
[1:41:15] Speaker 3: In the playoffs, yes.
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: Against them? Against anybody.
[1:41:19] Speaker 3: Anybody.
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: In the playoffs, yeah, he got to be there.
[1:41:22] Speaker 3: LaMelo, I see. LaMelo playing, bro.
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: LaMelo.
[1:41:25] Speaker 5: I see Jenkins in front of LaCade, y'all.
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: Hey, Jenkins has been playing very well.
[1:41:30] Speaker 3: He has, but come on.
[1:41:32] Speaker 1: He ain't ready. We're talking about need four wins. Lead
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: a team. You need four wins, bro.
[1:41:36] Speaker 3: Four wins.
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: You need four wins. I'm not there. We need Cade.
[1:41:40] Speaker 1: Jesus Cruz. Solid, holding it down.
[1:41:43] Speaker 3: The Abate, I don't trust him.
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:41:44] Speaker 5: The Abate? No, he's solid, but I just don't trust
[1:41:48] Speaker 5: him against Durden and all.
[1:41:49] Speaker 1: The rest of them. I'm not eighth.
[1:41:51] Speaker 5: I don't want to see Boston, so I don't want
[1:41:53] Speaker 5: to be seventh. I'd rather be eighth right now.
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: And who's seventh? Raptors right now.
[1:41:58] Speaker 3: Raptors. Raptors.
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: Sixers, Raptors.
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: Sixers, Raptors, Hornets.
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: Hornets all. I like the Sixers and Sixers. They're solid.
[1:42:08] Speaker 1: Sixers and Raptors right now. I think they want to
[1:42:10] Speaker 1: be either six or seven.
[1:42:11] Speaker 3: They want the Knicks.
[1:42:12] Speaker 1: They want the Knicks. I would want to play the
[1:42:14] Speaker 1: fucking Knicks too.
[1:42:15] Speaker 3: Right now. Especially right now.
[1:42:17] Speaker 1: I'm trying to finish six. Whoever. I'm trying to play
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: the Knicks at three. Disappointment. It's going to be some
[1:42:24] Speaker 1: good playoffs, man. It is going to be. Atlanta versus Cleveland.
[1:42:29] Speaker 1: I'm going to get a win. James and Atlanta? Shit. Oh,
[1:42:34] Speaker 1: that's going to be the matchup? Yeah. Cleveland and Atlanta? Yeah.
[1:42:37] Speaker 1: That could be troublesome. Man, that's what I'm saying. That
[1:42:40] Speaker 1: could be troublesome. Hey, listen.
[1:42:43] Speaker 3: Atlanta is coming to play. I'm not going to lie.
[1:42:45] Speaker 3: McCollum got them boys out there playing.
[1:42:47] Speaker 5: Nikhil got them boys out there. Johnson out there. You
[1:42:51] Speaker 5: got Kaming out there. You don't know what he going
[1:42:53] Speaker 5: to do.
[1:42:53] Speaker 1: Man, for sure. I like them a lot.
[1:42:59] Speaker 2: So I'm telling you, the Cowboys do not have much
[1:43:00] Speaker 2: faith in this pitching squad. The East has not run
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: through Detroit, in your guys' opinion? No, they're not going
[1:43:05] Speaker 2: to run through Boston. But Detroit is a sleeper.
[1:43:09] Speaker 1: With Cade, I'm saying we just don't know how effective
[1:43:14] Speaker 1: Cade is going to be by this punctual loan situation.
[1:43:18] Speaker 1: Many restrictions are now, we just don't know. They've been
[1:43:21] Speaker 1: in pole position throughout the season. They've been in one...
[1:43:27] Speaker 1: But we'll see. We need to see how he's going
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: to look. But right now, as it stands, I think
[1:43:33] Speaker 1: we can say Boston is.
[1:43:35] Speaker 4: He got his last weed test and now he came
[1:43:39] Speaker 4: with it.
[1:43:41] Speaker 1: You don't test no more? Edibles before I get out
[1:43:43] Speaker 1: of here. It's no free, bro. I thought it was
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: still three. No, they test for steroids.
[1:43:49] Speaker 3: Well, still, you can't do nothing.
[1:43:50] Speaker 1: Ever since the pandemic. They test for other shit. Oh,
[1:43:53] Speaker 1: my shit.
[1:43:54] Speaker 3: No. You didn't get to hit the pen, bro.
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: No, they test for other shit. I wish, boy. Shit.
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: So it's not three tests no more? No. It was four.
[1:44:04] Speaker 3: Four, yeah. It used to be four.
[1:44:06] Speaker 1: It was four. Oh, I thought it was three. Too early,
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: too late. It didn't even matter. They gave me, listen.
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: They gave yours one, two, three, four. I didn't give
[1:44:13] Speaker 1: a fuck how many you had. When that ball stopped bouncing,
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: that train, listen, I'm firing that train up, brother. That's
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: just what it was. The glory day. That's it. I
[1:44:24] Speaker 1: didn't smoke during the season, so listen, as soon as
[1:44:27] Speaker 1: that ball stopped bouncing, as soon as there wasn't no
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: more of this shit, jump ball, there wasn't no more
[1:44:31] Speaker 1: of this.
[1:44:32] Speaker 5: I don't think there was a time we didn't ever
[1:44:36] Speaker 5: roll up.
[1:44:36] Speaker 3: We was rolling up.
[1:44:37] Speaker 5: The whole season.
[1:44:41] Speaker 3: Touchdown. What room we going to, man? Whose room we
[1:44:44] Speaker 3: going to? Yours or mine?
[1:44:46] Speaker 5: When the championship's doing that, it's sick.
[1:44:49] Speaker 1: Y'all was doing that?
[1:44:50] Speaker 3: Nah. Yeah, okay.
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: Christian man over there.
[1:44:53] Speaker 3: Christian man. Good Christian man.
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: Wine on.
[1:44:56] Speaker 3: Well, we know who that don't apply to.
[1:44:59] Speaker 1: We know the one who was over there doing it.
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: The one that gave him some good advice.
[1:45:04] Speaker 1: Documented. Him too. Him too.
[1:45:09] Speaker 3: Both of them together.
[1:45:10] Speaker 2: Yo.
[1:45:11] Speaker 1: Ching chong.
[1:45:11] Speaker 3: Ching chong.
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: When the season, I walk by, he's like, yo, I
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: have my pen, right? You know, that pen like that.
[1:45:17] Speaker 3: He's like, let me get that, OG.
[1:45:20] Speaker 1: All they do is do that. That's all you need
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: on MJC. I wish we could have did that. I
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: wish we could have smoked freely, bro. I don't know
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: what you're explaining.
[1:45:33] Speaker 3: Some dudes did.
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, some dudes did. Yeah, but I... For me, I just.
[1:45:37] Speaker 3: We just need to go to therapy once a week.
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: We was good. Talk to the therapist. Some dudes can
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: do it in moderation. I can hear. Some dudes can
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: do it. I'm not one of them. I'm up here now.
[1:45:56] Speaker 1: Start hearing shit. This is a freight train that broke
[1:46:02] Speaker 1: the brake downhill. This motherfucker smoking. This been smoking. True, true.
[1:46:11] Speaker 5: Jump out of the car if it was hot boxing.
[1:46:14] Speaker 1: I can't take it too far. You know what? I
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: ain't never understood that. I ain't never did that.
[1:46:23] Speaker 3: Freak out?
[1:46:24] Speaker 1: The hot box. Oh, you never did the hot box?
[1:46:26] Speaker 1: For what?
[1:46:27] Speaker 5: What?
[1:46:27] Speaker 1: What do you mean, man? It ain't pointless at all. Uh-uh.
[1:46:31] Speaker 1: If you smoking the right way, you gonna get high.
[1:46:33] Speaker 5: Bro, that's the point. So you would never really have
[1:46:36] Speaker 5: to hit the blunt, bro.
[1:46:37] Speaker 3: You don't have to hit it. You just in the car.
[1:46:39] Speaker 2: Man.
[1:46:40] Speaker 5: You in the car. You like, man, we inhaling all
[1:46:43] Speaker 5: the shit.
[1:46:44] Speaker 1: Every breath. Ah, fuck.
[1:46:48] Speaker 5: Somebody roll the window down. God, it's hot in here.
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: It's hot.
[1:46:53] Speaker 5: It starts smelling like niggas in there. There's a lot
[1:46:56] Speaker 5: of niggas.
[1:46:58] Speaker 3: In here, man.
[1:46:59] Speaker 1: He got his balls sweating. He starts seeing shit in
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: the back.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: Little midgets walking around in the car.
[1:47:08] Speaker 3: Where y'all get room to walk around in here?
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, them niggas, man. Y'all niggas get done doing that,
[1:47:14] Speaker 1: then when you niggas go drive and go speed and
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: get pulled over and get pulled out the car for
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: probable cause, now that motherfucker's in jail. Like, nah, we
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: ain't doing that, bro. One of those days. He was
[1:47:25] Speaker 1: probably parked.
[1:47:25] Speaker 2: He was probably parked.
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: The same car leaving. Parking lot. Hey, the thing is,
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: that same car going. Parking lot. The same car on
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: the road.
[1:47:34] Speaker 3: Hey, listen, that same car, that nigga there till the
[1:47:36] Speaker 3: next morning.
[1:47:37] Speaker 1: Man. moving. Everybody in this car sleep. They did. I
[1:47:42] Speaker 1: want to sleep.
[1:47:43] Speaker 5: I need to sleep this shit off. We're about to
[1:47:45] Speaker 5: order this shit to the car. We're going to eat
[1:47:47] Speaker 5: in here for sure.
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: I learned early they probably called. Nigga, they did what?
[1:47:53] Speaker 1: Because the car smelled like who?
[1:47:55] Speaker 3: You was in it. You smell like it.
[1:47:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying no. Thank you. They didn't ask
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: me to get out this car, nigga, because you're going uh-uh.
[1:48:02] Speaker 3: Guilty by association.
[1:48:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all.
[1:48:04] Speaker 3: That's more new though, isn't it? The proper car shit?
[1:48:07] Speaker 1: No, nigga, that cost me. Come on, for the cops? Nah,
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: that ain't new. That ain't new.
[1:48:13] Speaker 3: That was number one.
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: That's number one, get out the car, nigga. As soon
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: as they smell it. They can't just ask you to
[1:48:20] Speaker 1: get out the car. Nah. They have to have probable cause.
[1:48:23] Speaker 1: Even like 2004.
[1:48:24] Speaker 5: They can lie and say I smell weed, bro.
[1:48:29] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:48:30] Speaker 5: That was the number one lock niggas up, bro. Just
[1:48:32] Speaker 5: to get out the car.
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: Search the car, listen. Search the car, find the pistol.
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: Now you.
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: Get out the car. Car smell like weed, right? We
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: can go in here now. Now we can search the car.
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: Now you got the pistol in the car. Now they
[1:48:44] Speaker 1: done found pills, pistol, weed.
[1:48:46] Speaker 5: All kind of shit. You didn't even know it was
[1:48:49] Speaker 5: in here.
[1:48:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
[1:48:51] Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about other people.
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't never been. No, don't do me. Don't
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: do me. Don't do me. I smoke, nigga. You ain't
[1:49:00] Speaker 1: never ate. And I learned from other niggas. One thing
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: I did, I learned from other people's mistakes. Learn from
[1:49:08] Speaker 1: other people's mistakes, brother. Get out the car for what?
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: That's it. That's all they need, Nick. That's all they need.
[1:49:16] Speaker 5: Bro, it's the worst. It's probably way worse. You might
[1:49:20] Speaker 5: have a homie that have a warrant. A homie might
[1:49:22] Speaker 5: have a warrant. You don't even know about it. Let
[1:49:24] Speaker 5: me see your IDs. And then this one dude got
[1:49:27] Speaker 5: a warrant. Everybody out the car. On the curve. I
[1:49:31] Speaker 5: remember that, though. That's nasty.
[1:49:34] Speaker 1: But I wish they did. Even today, it's more acceptable,
[1:49:39] Speaker 1: and still probable cause, bruh. Get out the car. It
[1:49:45] Speaker 1: is a real thing. You can have a medical car.
[1:49:47] Speaker 1: You can have a car. You can get out there
[1:49:49] Speaker 1: and be limping. This is medical. They don't care.
[1:49:53] Speaker 3: I know you got something else in here. I know
[1:49:55] Speaker 3: you got something else in here.
[1:49:57] Speaker 1: Shout out to the medical car.
[1:50:00] Speaker 3: Come on, you're going to jail.
[1:50:02] Speaker 5: He called me and said, I said, you have to
[1:50:05] Speaker 5: be the dumbest mother.
[1:50:07] Speaker 1: You're going to jail today.
[1:50:08] Speaker 3: Tell the police what you did. Yeah.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: That shit was funny, though. I had to take my
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: son's car, dude. Listen, you smoke blowing in the car. Listen, dude,
[1:50:15] Speaker 1: they're going to take your dumb ass to jail, man.
[1:50:18] Speaker 1: Your car smell like that. Yeah. I smoked a little
[1:50:20] Speaker 1: bit earlier. Just a little bit earlier.
[1:50:23] Speaker 3: A little bit.
[1:50:23] Speaker 1: I said, man. Yeah, a little bit, a lot of bit.
[1:50:25] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:50:26] Speaker 1: It don't matter. No. I said no, bro. This is
[1:50:29] Speaker 1: my cologne. I'm lingering. This is my cologne. Can I
[1:50:32] Speaker 1: buy some in? Thank you.
[1:50:33] Speaker 5: This is my cologne.
[1:50:36] Speaker 3: This smells good, don't it?
[1:50:37] Speaker 1: You want some? I got some right here.
[1:50:40] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[1:50:42] Speaker 1: Nigga, I didn't, listen. Situation, nigga, right? I just came
[1:50:46] Speaker 1: from China, right? I bought an Aston Martin, right? Went
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: to Dallas. I ain't even drove the car yet. We land.
[1:50:54] Speaker 1: I land back in Dallas. We going to DG's. Same.
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: Blowing in the car on the way to the strip club, right?
[1:51:02] Speaker 1: It's about eight cars deep, right? Cop get in between, squeeze.
[1:51:07] Speaker 1: We following people. Listen, three cars behind me, three, four
[1:51:10] Speaker 1: in front of me. That mean he want you. That
[1:51:11] Speaker 1: motherfucker squeeze in, dog. You. Your car. Squeeze in.
[1:51:17] Speaker 3: That's sick.
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: That's sick. I was only supposed to be behind you.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: Just threw the bitch out the window, right? We had
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: just threw the bitch out the window. Just threw it out.
[1:51:29] Speaker 1: I got two, both the dudes I got in the
[1:51:30] Speaker 1: car with me, both of them niggas smoke cigarettes, right?
[1:51:34] Speaker 1: They know I hate cigarettes with a pat. Don't smoke them. Listen,
[1:51:37] Speaker 1: they around me, they know to walk off to smoke
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: a cigarette. Don't light no cigarette around me. But this
[1:51:42] Speaker 1: particular time, the cop hit them lights. I'm like, hey.
[1:51:46] Speaker 3: Blow that motherfucking cigarette. Immediately.
[1:51:48] Speaker 1: Light fucking cigarette, nigga.
[1:51:49] Speaker 3: And so you smoking it in front of him.
[1:51:51] Speaker 1: Yo. And blowing it in his face. Between the two. No, cigarettes, nigga,
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: it's 20 in the pack. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: So 40 cigarettes. Between the two of these niggas, they
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: got one cigarette. I'm livid.
[1:52:06] Speaker 5: Y'all mad at them. You ain't got no cigarettes, nigga.
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: You niggas got one cigarette between you motherfuckers all the time.
[1:52:13] Speaker 1: You niggas want to chain smoke them bitches. I'm going off, nigga.
[1:52:18] Speaker 1: smoke that bitch nigga puff puff puff puff puff puff
[1:52:23] Speaker 1: blow that shit listen hop on this cause we on
[1:52:26] Speaker 1: the highway so they coming to the passenger side nigga
[1:52:28] Speaker 1: hey blow it in his face nigga.
[1:52:31] Speaker 5: I don't care whatever you gotta do I'm like wait
[1:52:34] Speaker 5: one gotta be a Newport too gotta be a Newport
[1:52:37] Speaker 5: y'all got one cigarette between y'all.
[1:52:45] Speaker 1: Nigga, I cussed the whole way after he let us
[1:52:47] Speaker 1: going on. I cussed the niggas out from the time
[1:52:49] Speaker 1: the cop pulled. And it was your fault. How's it
[1:52:52] Speaker 1: my fault? You was the one smoking. We was smoking.
[1:52:56] Speaker 1: There's three niggas in the car. All three of us smoke.
[1:53:00] Speaker 1: They smoke cigarettes, I don't.
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Right?
[1:53:02] Speaker 5: But he posted all the, hey, listen, I'm going to
[1:53:04] Speaker 5: make sure we got some extra Newports in this bitch
[1:53:06] Speaker 5: for you niggas next time.
[1:53:07] Speaker 1: I started keeping, to your, hey, to that point, nigga,
[1:53:10] Speaker 1: I started keeping black in my eyes in the car. Yeah, yeah.
[1:53:13] Speaker 1: For real?
[1:53:13] Speaker 3: Let me go ahead and get this smell out of here.
[1:53:15] Speaker 1: Man. Hitting the shit out that black. That's it. Master's here.
[1:53:22] Speaker 1: Master's the motherfucker. Look, this motherfucker love black. Yo.
[1:53:24] Speaker 3: I just got into it, though. I gotta stop now.
[1:53:27] Speaker 1: You just got into black. How you getting into black?
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: How you get into black? Fucking. How you start smoking black? Nigga,
[1:53:34] Speaker 1: that's a 24-year-old thing. Carlos? Carlos Miller. With the 85 South? Oh, yeah.
[1:53:40] Speaker 1: He smoked black? Yeah, that's all he had in the
[1:53:42] Speaker 1: damn house. I ain't smoking nothing. You got a regular cigar, nigga?
[1:53:49] Speaker 1: You got a regular cigar. That was two years ago.
[1:53:52] Speaker 5: I just started that shit. You don't even take the paper.
[1:53:55] Speaker 1: You don't freaking it or nothing. You ain't freaking the
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: black or nothing. I had partners in college smoke blacks.
[1:54:01] Speaker 1: I used to be sitting there watching niggas for ten
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: minutes straight like, do you know how long that just
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: took you? take all the tobacco take all the tobacco
[1:54:09] Speaker 1: out and then take the filter out.
[1:54:11] Speaker 5: And put the tobacco back in like.
[1:54:13] Speaker 3: Nigga ah hey 20 minutes.
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: I was trying to learn it and then you got
[1:54:19] Speaker 1: niggas that want to mix the tobacco with the weed
[1:54:21] Speaker 1: like dude just smoke weed I'm cool like just smoke
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: just smoke the weed bro I didn't like the black
[1:54:25] Speaker 1: after it's too much I'm cool it is entirely too much.
[1:54:28] Speaker 2: Going on Josiah like Back in the day, though, we
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: had a lot more spare time.
[1:54:32] Speaker 1: We did not. We definitely had.
[1:54:34] Speaker 5: Hey, we definitely had more time. Hey, after that 20
[1:54:38] Speaker 5: minute freaking that black, you had a whole nother 45
[1:54:40] Speaker 5: of smoking that bitch.
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: It took you 45 minutes of smoking. Smoking black. Like, dude, you.
[1:54:46] Speaker 1: Fucking weed, right?
[1:54:49] Speaker 5: Man, just, you got nobody to pass it to.
[1:54:51] Speaker 1: No, nobody want that. You got the little.
[1:54:54] Speaker 5: Tip on that bitch. Put it between his fingers. I
[1:54:59] Speaker 5: see what you ass be doing. That's why you like
[1:55:01] Speaker 5: that shit.
[1:55:02] Speaker 1: That nigga be at the light. He be at the light,
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: window down and shit, blowing the black out. Look at
[1:55:06] Speaker 1: this nigga. I be rolling by the nigga like, shells
[1:55:10] Speaker 1: me the other day, hunked at you too. Yeah, I
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: got it. It's king. It's for the kids. Yeah, that
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: motherfucking black. I'm like, nigga, be at the light with
[1:55:17] Speaker 1: the window down. I'm like, I started to roll up
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: over there. I'm like, hey. Black in my eyes. Yeah, nigga, yeah.
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: But he dangerous, though. He smoke blacks and drink Hennessy. Hey,
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: he dangerous.
[1:55:28] Speaker 5: And wear slides and shit with socks and shit. And denim.
[1:55:33] Speaker 5: I like both of those.
[1:55:34] Speaker 3: Denim jacket. I like actually all three of these.
[1:55:35] Speaker 1: You got them jackets on. It's real denim.
[1:55:38] Speaker 3: It's real jeans.
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: Levi. Yeah, Levi just woke up.
[1:55:42] Speaker 3: It's Thursday.
[1:55:43] Speaker 5: And what size is those, actually?
[1:55:45] Speaker 1: Your size, man. Your size. Your size. Yeah, they cool.
[1:55:49] Speaker 2: Y'all wear the same size. Sometimes we get your deliveries,
[1:55:53] Speaker 2: they don't always get.
[1:55:54] Speaker 1: To you guys. 12 and there. Yeah, 12.
[1:55:57] Speaker 2: Did anybody locate the golden Easter eggs?
[1:56:00] Speaker 3: There's one right here.
[1:56:01] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:56:02] Speaker 3: Let me go ahead and tell the people.
[1:56:03] Speaker 1: They already found them? There's one right here, people. Hey, look.
[1:56:07] Speaker 3: I'm going to help y'all out.
[1:56:08] Speaker 5: Take a picture now. It's right in the Gil's shoes.
[1:56:11] Speaker 5: I'll put it right here if we don't get some money.
[1:56:13] Speaker 5: I'll actually put it right there. It has not been updated?
[1:56:17] Speaker 5: There's another one over here, too.
[1:56:19] Speaker 1: Another one?
[1:56:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was over there. I'm going to go get
[1:56:22] Speaker 3: it for them. It ain't right? Oh, I thought that
[1:56:26] Speaker 3: was one. See, that done tricked your ass.
[1:56:29] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:56:31] Speaker 3: I will.
[1:56:35] Speaker 1: Let me see. Oh, I see. I see. I see it, too.
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: What's up, Todd? We got the eggs.
[1:56:43] Speaker 2: Before we go, let's congratulate our winners from today's Easter giveaway.
[1:56:48] Speaker 1: What the? What name? Congratulations. Oh, the count on Ken 3.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: Take the pitch.
[1:56:52] Speaker 2: The K's on count and Ken.
[1:56:54] Speaker 3: Take the pitch.
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: Take the pitch. Count on Ken 3.
[1:56:57] Speaker 2: You have won $ 50 in underdog bonus funds to your
[1:56:58] Speaker 2: underdog account.
[1:56:59] Speaker 1: You should see this. You should see this sexy shit
[1:57:01] Speaker 1: I got on. And congratulations to I.M. D. Hart.
[1:57:07] Speaker 3: I.M. D.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: Hart. Fishy. You have won $ 150 in $ 100 bonus funds.
[1:57:10] Speaker 2: For finding the bigger egg.
[1:57:15] Speaker 1: Big fucking eyes.
[1:57:16] Speaker 3: Big fucking eyes.
[1:57:17] Speaker 1: But a nice fucking fish.
[1:57:21] Speaker 2: 100 people submitted. Some of you are very thirsty for bread.
[1:57:24] Speaker 2: And I understand in this economy, you're going to find
[1:57:26] Speaker 2: them eggs.
[1:57:27] Speaker 1: The way gas is. The way gas is.
[1:57:31] Speaker 3: I don't pay shit for that electric, though. That shit
[1:57:33] Speaker 3: electric is free.
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:57:35] Speaker 2: You got to make decisions nowadays. Do you really want
[1:57:37] Speaker 2: to go? Can you just show up on Zoom?
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: We so afraid they can cut the power grid off
[1:57:43] Speaker 1: any moment. They could. I'd rather pay for the gas.
[1:57:49] Speaker 3: Gas is much faster. I got spare gas at the crib.
[1:57:52] Speaker 1: A whole adventure.
[1:57:54] Speaker 3: A whole vacation.
[1:57:56] Speaker 1: Y'all think I'm lying?
[1:57:59] Speaker 5: I got spare gas at the house. So you don't
[1:58:01] Speaker 5: got to do all that. Get some shit going on.
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: Is it a fast one though? Oh, no, we doomsday
[1:58:08] Speaker 1: prepping around my way.
[1:58:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. You good.
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: Only thing I ain't got yet is a bunker. I'm
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: working on it. I have been watching a lot of
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: Bunker videos. I'm telling you right now. You've been watching
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: Bunker videos. Them shits be fire. Kitchens. Yeah, go buy
[1:58:20] Speaker 1: me a motherfucking trailer.
[1:58:22] Speaker 3: Put it in the backyard. I've seen that. You dig
[1:58:25] Speaker 3: the hole. I got no space on the side of
[1:58:27] Speaker 3: my house.
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: Hey, listen, don't tip me.
[1:58:29] Speaker 3: That shit fire.
[1:58:30] Speaker 1: We got everything else. We got eight.
[1:58:32] Speaker 3: But how long are you going to stay in the bunker?
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: When nothing happens, you just got a big-ass bunker in
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: your backyard. Beans, rice.
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: But do you just want to go out quickly or
[1:58:39] Speaker 2: stay in that bunker and wait?
[1:58:41] Speaker 1: I wait.
[1:58:41] Speaker 2: I just go. What if it's years and years? What
[1:58:43] Speaker 2: if the air supply run out? That seems like a
[1:58:45] Speaker 2: more torturous way to go. I'm not going to be
[1:58:46] Speaker 2: out here. Fighting for rats.
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: Why not? Resident Evil. Eating beans.
[1:58:52] Speaker 3: Why?
[1:58:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's our book, Eli. Come on. We out here.
[1:58:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: That's tough. For water. For water. Fighting. Shooting for water.
[1:59:00] Speaker 3: My mother be like, you don't want this?
[1:59:01] Speaker 1: Cat oil.
[1:59:02] Speaker 3: Cat oil.
[1:59:02] Speaker 1: Cat oil. Yeah.
[1:59:05] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:59:05] Speaker 1: You don't want this? It works. I'm fast, but I
[1:59:08] Speaker 1: don't have to deal with that. I'm telling you. Shit.
[1:59:10] Speaker 3: I got some batteries. You want some batteries?
[1:59:12] Speaker 1: Work for a lot of different things. How long the
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: charge last? Let's see. Paradise? Yeah. Smash that fire, y'all. Yeah.
[1:59:21] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, I want to wish all of you
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: a happy Easter. We will not see you again until
[1:59:26] Speaker 2: next week, but we appreciate you as always. If you
[1:59:30] Speaker 2: see Gil somewhere in Los Angeles, tell him that we
[1:59:32] Speaker 2: miss him. It'll be anywhere. Is he getting that surgery?
[1:59:37] Speaker 2: Is he going under that knife again already?
[1:59:40] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: That nigga crazy, dog. When he did that shit, dude
[1:59:44] Speaker 1: didn't do the rehab, basically. I saw him at lunch
[1:59:49] Speaker 1: the other day. Can't bend his leg. He's like, yeah,
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: I got to go in again.
[1:59:53] Speaker 2: I said, nigga. Be safe, ladies and gentlemen. Do the
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: rehab as Jason Tatum. I don't got none of them issues.
[1:59:59] Speaker 2: We're going right to the gym right after this. Going
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: straight to the gym again. Shout out to everybody in
[2:00:05] Speaker 2: the chat. Shout out to everybody on this couch. This
[2:00:08] Speaker 2: has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:00:12] Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.

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