# Gil's Arena Breaks Down How Jaylen Brown SAVED The Celtics

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 16 May 2025, 3 h 17 min.

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How Jaylen Brown Just SAVED The Boston Celtics' Season as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Boston Celtics dominant Game 5 win over the New York Knicks in their first game since losing Jayson Tatum to a torn achilles and break down how Jaylen Brown, Derrick White and Luke Kornet grabbed momentum to keep their season alive. They debate if Jalen Brunson & the Knicks will be able to finish things off in Game 6 at home and react to some iffy officiating moments that might've flipped the series. Next, they break down the Minnesota Timberwolves series clinching win over the Golden State Warriors where Julius Randle's playoff breakout powered Anthony Edwards & The T-Wolves back to the Western Conference finals and potentially sparked a legendary run to a championship for one of the NBA's most captivating young stars. They also discuss the current state of the Golden State Warriors who fell in the early stages of the NBA Playoffs once again and break down what's next for their core of Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler who might've just blown their best shot at another ring. Finally, they react to the return of Paul George to the podcast game following his announcement of a Podcast P reboot and look ahead to a potentially monumental offseason for Giannis Antetokounmpo as the Greek Freak is potentially open to exploring options to get himself off of the Milwaukee Bucks. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA. Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 - 2 Min Countdown 0:02:04 - Show Start 0:07:27 - The Return of Podcast P 0:25:00 - PG Says The Days Of Defensive Stoppers Are Done 0:38:24 - Ant-Man Is The NBA's ULTIMATE Playoff Killer 0:54:28 - Julius Randle's Playoff Break Out 1:03:03 - State Of The Golden State Warriors 1:11:19 - Kuminga Is Looking Like A Genius 1:21:51 - Jimmy Butler Did Not Deliver For The Warriors 1:31:28 - Jaylen Brown Saved The Celtics In Game 5 1:49:51 - Jaylen Brown's Ball Grab 1:55:06 - Jalen Brunson's Foul Trouble 1:59:24 - Gil's Biggest Problem With Kat 2:07:33 - Will The Knicks Close Out The Series? 2:15:34 - Giannis Is On The Move 2:24:52 - MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Thursday here in the arena. We're going to get the
[0:10] Speaker 2: screen fixed, Mr. B. Take a second to kick on
[0:14] Speaker 2: that Wi-Fi.
[0:15] Speaker 1: There it is. There we go. How everybody feeling? Good.
[0:23] Speaker 3: Good.
[0:23] Speaker 1: Good. Good. Double shift on playback last night. The double header.
[0:26] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. You got the traitors on.
[0:29] Speaker 4: Huh?
[0:30] Speaker 1: You got the traitors. Where are the traitors? I can't
[0:33] Speaker 1: wear COVID. You got the moon boots? I got like
[0:38] Speaker 1: 20 pair of those.
[0:42] Speaker 3: The moon boots.
[0:43] Speaker 2: The Audi, but this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:45] Speaker 2: As always, we got the legend. Gil Arena's here with us.
[0:51] Speaker 2: Rocking the vintage throwback pump and run jersey. Shout out
[0:54] Speaker 2: to the pump brothers, Dana and David.
[0:57] Speaker 5: My actual jersey when I was when I thought I
[0:59] Speaker 5: was Isaiah Thomas.
[1:01] Speaker 1: How old were you when you got that jersey? I
[1:04] Speaker 1: had to be, what, ninth or tenth grade. And it's
[1:05] Speaker 1: still baggy. And it's still baggy. Yeah. Ninth or tenth grade,
[1:09] Speaker 1: we was.
[1:10] Speaker 3: That's how big the jersey was back then.
[1:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:13] Speaker 3: That's how big that shit was back then.
[1:14] Speaker 1: I was looking at it like, I can fit this in. Like, damn,
[1:18] Speaker 1: that's crazy cold.
[1:19] Speaker 2: And on this side of the couch representing Tough Crowd,
[1:21] Speaker 2: Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B.
[1:23] Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings back there with us.
[1:28] Speaker 2: And next to me, suited and booted, The man known
[1:31] Speaker 2: as Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion Rashad McCants is back.
[1:35] Speaker 1: In the arena. There it is. Give him some smoke.
[1:43] Speaker 4: GQ.
[1:44] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Fresh on the market.
[1:48] Speaker 4: Got to show out when you're first available.
[1:52] Speaker 3: Free agency. Yes, sir.
[1:54] Speaker 1: Underway.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Hit the market.
[1:55] Speaker 1: Got to get the Mac. Again. Again. Again. Again.
[2:02] Speaker 4: Hinge.
[2:03] Speaker 3: Stop fucking with me, man.
[2:04] Speaker 1: They ain't getting right. They ain't getting right. Nobody getting right.
[2:07] Speaker 1: I'm on Tinder. I'm stuck.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Stuck on Tinder. In the blinder. But for all the
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[2:19] Speaker 2: Here's what's cracking in the arena today. With Tatum down,
[2:23] Speaker 2: White and Brown guided the Celtics to a game five
[2:25] Speaker 2: win over the Knicks to keep their season alive. Can
[2:28] Speaker 2: Boston keep the momentum rolling? To force a game seven,
[2:31] Speaker 2: they got to go back to the real garden. Try
[2:33] Speaker 2: and steal one against the Knicks at the crib. The Wolves'
[2:36] Speaker 2: dynamic duo eliminated the stepless Warriors in five to reach
[2:40] Speaker 2: their second straight conference finals. Do the Wolves have enough
[2:43] Speaker 2: to reach the first NBA finals in franchise history? Ant-Man
[2:47] Speaker 2: and Julius Randle think so. We might get a Julius
[2:50] Speaker 2: Randle-Cat finals. We're going to really see and find out
[2:53] Speaker 2: who won the trade. We might not, though. Boston fans
[2:55] Speaker 2: may disagree. I'll make OKC and Denver fans.
[2:57] Speaker 4: But.
[2:59] Speaker 2: And according to reports, Giannis may be looking to make
[3:01] Speaker 2: his next move his best move. What's the best landing
[3:04] Speaker 2: spot for the Greek freak if he decides to dip
[3:07] Speaker 2: from Milwaukee? But before we get into all that, as always,
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[3:21] Speaker 2: You got SGA, higher, 12.5 rebounds and assists. Game six tonight.
[3:28] Speaker 2: In Denver, we're going to see. Jamal Murray hired 21.5 points.
[3:33] Speaker 2: Michael Porter Jr. lowered 15.5 points, rebounds and assists. Been
[3:38] Speaker 2: bothered by that separated AC joint in the shoulder. Had
[3:41] Speaker 2: some tough games in this series. Jalen Williams hired 4.5 rebounds.
[3:46] Speaker 2: And Lou Dort, the Dortcher Chamber, lowered 2.5 three-pointers made
[3:50] Speaker 2: in the game.
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[4:03] Speaker 1: He said, keep it over 10.
[4:05] Speaker 3: Shit.
[4:06] Speaker 6: He said, my man across from me just said, man,
[4:09] Speaker 6: he wanted, he wanted with some money.
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[4:13] Speaker 4: I'm being safe because I'm on the fence with the
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[4:20] Speaker 1: might be able to get that. I don't know. That's
[4:22] Speaker 1: the only one. Everybody else. Good.
[4:24] Speaker 3: I'm under on Michael Porter. Everything.
[4:29] Speaker 1: That's the only one I'm scared about. Shit, his ride home.
[4:31] Speaker 1: He's going back home.
[4:33] Speaker 2: He's been playing like trash.
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[5:18] Speaker 1: So.
[5:19] Speaker 2: We got a lot of playoffs to talk. We're going
[5:20] Speaker 2: to talk something else first. So, Paul George has one
[5:22] Speaker 2: of the hottest podcasts in sports. Decided to go on
[5:25] Speaker 2: hiatus back in February with the Sixers struggling and dealing
[5:28] Speaker 2: with injuries. Podcast P made his return this week with
[5:32] Speaker 2: a special collab episode featuring the Pivot Crew where he
[5:36] Speaker 2: broke down why he decided to start podcasting again.
[5:38] Speaker 3: You took a break from podcasting. Why is it important.
[5:42] Speaker 1: to do it and bring it back now. I'm not
[5:45] Speaker 1: a person that run away from anything. You know what
[5:47] Speaker 1: I mean?
[5:48] Speaker 7: Like my dad kind of instilled that you face your
[5:51] Speaker 7: problems and you move on from it. It's there and
[5:54] Speaker 7: it's gone. And the reason I took the hiatus was
[5:56] Speaker 7: more so I wanted to get my body healthy. I
[5:58] Speaker 7: wasn't mentally there in a time of where we were at,
[6:02] Speaker 7: the team. me dealing with injuries. I wasn't in a
[6:05] Speaker 7: space of being jolly and happy. And, you know, obviously
[6:08] Speaker 7: we had topics and guests to talk with, but it
[6:10] Speaker 7: wasn't much for me to talk about just because of
[6:12] Speaker 7: where I was at. So now it's obviously the summer,
[6:15] Speaker 7: my downtime, I'm training, focusing on my body. I did
[6:19] Speaker 7: procedures to get ready for this next season and kind
[6:22] Speaker 7: of just want to touch back with my fan base.
[6:24] Speaker 7: It was important for us to kind of start this
[6:26] Speaker 7: back up to just get back to the people, man.
[6:28] Speaker 7: That's what I always inspire to do is kind of
[6:30] Speaker 7: get back.
[6:30] Speaker 1: To the people.
[6:31] Speaker 2: All right, so shout out Podcast P, bringing it back.
[6:35] Speaker 2: We talked about it when he went on high edge
[6:36] Speaker 2: back in February, so we're going to talk about it
[6:38] Speaker 2: now that he's back. A good move for Paul George
[6:40] Speaker 2: to bring back Podcast P.
[6:46] Speaker 1: I mean, right now, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's
[6:48] Speaker 1: the summertime.
[6:49] Speaker 3: I mean, that's his other job that he has, right?
[6:52] Speaker 1: He gets paid for that, right?
[6:55] Speaker 2: Unsure of what the bread looks like. Hopefully it's sufficient.
[7:03] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have– I do not have a
[7:06] Speaker 2: problem with people with their personal podcasts because, I mean.
[7:13] Speaker 5: When they're doing it, it has no impact on their
[7:16] Speaker 5: schedule because most of the time they're going to do
[7:18] Speaker 5: it when they actually have free time, usually on an
[7:21] Speaker 5: off day, after a practice, you know, never on a
[7:25] Speaker 5: game day because most of these guys' podcasts are prerecorded.
[7:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, one day a week usually.
[7:30] Speaker 5: Yeah, so most likely they probably do three when he
[7:33] Speaker 5: has enough time because it is guest-based. So, you know,
[7:39] Speaker 5: the fact that you got to do interviews two times
[7:41] Speaker 5: a day sometimes, you know, you spend an hour, you know,
[7:45] Speaker 5: once a week on your podcast. I've never seen anything
[7:48] Speaker 5: wrong with it itself because you're speaking to the media anyway.
[7:51] Speaker 5: Now you're just speaking directly to your fans with your words. So,
[7:57] Speaker 5: I mean, I thought that when he, went away from it,
[8:00] Speaker 5: it kind of showed that he's easily rattled from the
[8:05] Speaker 5: standpoint is.
[8:06] Speaker 2: It did take a lot of criticism. I think it
[8:08] Speaker 2: was like more podcast episodes than field games.
[8:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, but obviously the media themselves don't want you podcasting
[8:16] Speaker 5: because now you got to give them all them takes.
[8:18] Speaker 5: You got to speak to them directly. So, you know,
[8:21] Speaker 5: it's a conflict of interest for the media. So, of course,
[8:23] Speaker 5: they're going to try to get you to.
[8:24] Speaker 1: Get out of it. You know, they don't like when Draymond...
[8:27] Speaker 1: Draymond don't talk to them.
[8:29] Speaker 4: And then go on his own podcast and platform and
[8:31] Speaker 4: speak his mind.
[8:32] Speaker 1: And to Draymond's credit, he did apologize to the media
[8:34] Speaker 1: the other day.
[8:35] Speaker 6: Well, also his podcast was, it was filmed here, right,
[8:38] Speaker 6: in L.A., right? So when he moved to Philly, they
[8:41] Speaker 6: went remote. Didn't have like a, like, it's different.
[8:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just in his hotel room. He was
[8:47] Speaker 1: just in his hotel room.
[8:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not the same, like, you know, so.
[8:50] Speaker 2: It's not the same energy as we know when we're
[8:51] Speaker 2: all here versus when we go on Zoom or Riverside
[8:54] Speaker 2: or any of those other platforms and are not around
[8:56] Speaker 2: each other to feel each other's energy. But, yeah, they
[8:58] Speaker 2: did tape it locally in L.A. when he was playing
[9:00] Speaker 2: with the Clippers. Went to the Sixers, and then they
[9:03] Speaker 2: were doing it remote. The rest of the cast is here. Yeah,
[9:06] Speaker 2: I mean, even when we do it remote sometimes.
[9:08] Speaker 4: They just get on there an hour, hour and a half,
[9:11] Speaker 4: and get the fuck on.
[9:12] Speaker 1: It's not the same. I know, but it's still hot,
[9:14] Speaker 1: but it ain't the same. Yeah. Let's move over to
[9:16] Speaker 1: Si Semitary. Larry, what do you think about Podcast P
[9:19] Speaker 1: announcing his return to the game?
[9:21] Speaker 4: Congratulations, you know. Guess you can give yourself something to
[9:25] Speaker 4: do during the summertime. Like you said, give back to
[9:29] Speaker 4: the people. But that's a two-fold action. You got to
[9:37] Speaker 4: give the people what they asking for. You got to
[9:40] Speaker 4: play better. You got to win. Fan base talking to
[9:44] Speaker 4: the fans is cool, but, I mean, the fans want
[9:48] Speaker 4: to win. Fans want you to produce. So all the
[9:51] Speaker 4: engagement with the fans, if you're not playing good, it
[9:54] Speaker 4: don't really, like you look worse, It feels good because
[9:58] Speaker 4: you're engaging. But on the court, we're expecting something that
[10:02] Speaker 4: you're not giving us. And I only see one active
[10:05] Speaker 4: player that's actually successful right now. And he doesn't have
[10:09] Speaker 4: the number one podcast. Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart. And
[10:12] Speaker 4: the roommates podcast. They're very successful with playing and podcasting.
[10:17] Speaker 4: And they ain't even updating it like they could be.
[10:20] Speaker 4: They haven't really shot episodes like that. So everybody else,
[10:23] Speaker 4: I see it as a distraction. They haven't been able
[10:25] Speaker 4: to show that they can propel their performance over their podcast.
[10:30] Speaker 2: So we talk about being in the NBA, being in
[10:32] Speaker 2: the league, a lot of time to devote to work, film,
[10:35] Speaker 2: working out, rehab, all that stuff, recovery, but also have
[10:39] Speaker 2: a ton of free time, right?
[10:40] Speaker 1: A ton of downtime. Too much.
[10:41] Speaker 2: And like you said, give too much. So would you
[10:44] Speaker 2: rather be seeing guys like Draymond, like Paul George, doing
[10:47] Speaker 2: this and exploring the media side of their career versus
[10:50] Speaker 2: some of the other things that you guys can get
[10:51] Speaker 2: into with that free time.
[10:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[10:53] Speaker 5: Look, when, when you're, when you're talking about a NBA schedule,
[11:00] Speaker 5: I would rather than podcast and play video games than
[11:03] Speaker 5: sit at the strip club and gain a whole bunch
[11:06] Speaker 5: of baby mamas.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Cause you, you sitting in a nightlife, right? I'm just
[11:09] Speaker 1: be honest with you.
[11:10] Speaker 4: Like, um, You don't have no shots at Dennis Rodman.
[11:15] Speaker 4: You don't have those personalities anymore, right, where they're really, really.
[11:21] Speaker 1: In them streets like that.
[11:22] Speaker 5: And if they are, we don't see them during a
[11:25] Speaker 5: time where media is everywhere, right? So if they want
[11:29] Speaker 5: to sit and play video games and become professional gamers
[11:33] Speaker 5: when they're not practicing and when.
[11:34] Speaker 4: They're not doing this at 9 o'clock, if they're spinning
[11:37] Speaker 4: from 9.
[11:38] Speaker 5: To 12 midnight, I would rather have that. And them
[11:42] Speaker 5: sitting there getting ready for the club. NBA players got
[11:46] Speaker 5: so much time, they're spending their time trying to figure
[11:49] Speaker 5: out how not to get in trouble, in a sense.
[11:54] Speaker 1: You're done at 1 o'clock.
[11:56] Speaker 5: And I don't have nothing to do again until when
[12:00] Speaker 5: I get back to the gym.
[12:01] Speaker 1: In the morning.
[12:02] Speaker 5: So if you're not disciplined, if you don't have a hobby,
[12:06] Speaker 5: for the most part they tell us, get.
[12:07] Speaker 1: A hobby, right?
[12:09] Speaker 4: So Golfing is a hobby. It's okay to spend eight,
[12:14] Speaker 4: nine hours golfing.
[12:16] Speaker 1: Some of these guys was DJs. Some of the guys fish.
[12:21] Speaker 5: Now we're frowning upon someone doing a podcast. It doesn't
[12:24] Speaker 5: make it make sense for me because I'm like, damn,
[12:27] Speaker 5: you're sitting on your feet golfing in the sun.
[12:31] Speaker 1: You're tiring yourself out versus somebody sitting at home for
[12:34] Speaker 1: an hour.
[12:34] Speaker 3: I'll say this.
[12:36] Speaker 4: I'll say what I wish I would have done because
[12:38] Speaker 4: I didn't do it. But I wish I would have,
[12:42] Speaker 4: while I was in the league, studied the game, the
[12:45] Speaker 4: NBA game more than I did when I was in
[12:48] Speaker 4: college because I was prepared in college to come. The
[12:51] Speaker 4: transition was seamless. But when you have that strip club
[12:55] Speaker 4: from nine to two option, right?
[12:58] Speaker 1: And you have money. And you have money.
[13:01] Speaker 4: You ask yourself, what's the other options, right? And I
[13:04] Speaker 4: would say now that study in the game is the
[13:07] Speaker 4: other options.
[13:07] Speaker 3: We're going to spend time.
[13:09] Speaker 4: Doing something other than gaming or podcasting let's go over
[13:12] Speaker 4: our plays let's go over everybody's scouting report now i
[13:16] Speaker 4: remember bd did this with jr smith when jr smith
[13:19] Speaker 4: was a rookie in new orleans and i remember seeing
[13:22] Speaker 4: it on like nba tv or something and that was
[13:24] Speaker 4: important to see bd going in there and being like
[13:27] Speaker 4: this is we're going to do in the summer like
[13:29] Speaker 4: jr wanted his summertime he's like nah we're going over
[13:32] Speaker 4: the playbook i want you to be in tune we're
[13:35] Speaker 4: going over the defenses who out there you think can
[13:37] Speaker 4: guard you let's study that shit Get with the film guy.
[13:39] Speaker 4: Break down footage. If you bored, study the game. You're
[13:43] Speaker 4: not in the gym three times a day from the
[13:45] Speaker 4: studying that you're doing. You should be sparking ideas like, damn,
[13:48] Speaker 4: I just seen that.
[13:49] Speaker 1: I'm about to go do that. I'm about to go
[13:50] Speaker 1: do that move right there. I seen it.
[13:51] Speaker 3: Damn.
[13:52] Speaker 4: But it's like I said, this is something I would
[13:54] Speaker 4: do now. I did not do that. I wish if
[13:57] Speaker 4: I could go back, I would not have followed the word.
[14:01] Speaker 1: I would not.
[14:02] Speaker 4: I would not. I promise you, I would not. Because
[14:04] Speaker 4: I see now where it leads you. But actually being
[14:07] Speaker 4: in tune with the game now that I see that
[14:09] Speaker 4: people are not, they out there playing like they lost.
[14:12] Speaker 1: Man, go study that shit. Go study the game, man. Yeah.
[14:14] Speaker 2: Hindsight 2020 being in, you know, your early twenties, getting
[14:18] Speaker 2: a big bag. A lot of times, a lot of
[14:20] Speaker 2: these guys getting bread for the first time. The work
[14:22] Speaker 2: is different. The work is not a different caliber, different
[14:25] Speaker 2: tier of work.
[14:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[14:26] Speaker 6: I used to be against the players with the podcast
[14:29] Speaker 6: in the beginning when I first started.
[14:31] Speaker 3: Remember, but, I see to your point. It is beneficial.
[14:34] Speaker 3: It is open therapy.
[14:35] Speaker 6: I mean, you can hear from a player's perspective on
[14:38] Speaker 6: what they're going through and things like that.
[14:40] Speaker 3: And it does keep them out of trouble.
[14:41] Speaker 6: I mean, even with me doing playback and being able
[14:44] Speaker 6: to still be in tune and do things at home
[14:47] Speaker 6: as to where it's like, you know, I'm not getting
[14:48] Speaker 6: in trouble. I'm not being seen out. So I do
[14:51] Speaker 6: see the benefit of these players now that have broadcasters,
[14:54] Speaker 6: you know, the benefit it brings to them.
[14:56] Speaker 2: So we were talking about on the show yesterday, you
[14:58] Speaker 2: had the story that dropped about Westbrook, right, from ESPN.
[15:01] Speaker 2: a bunch of anonymous players being quoted, and now players
[15:04] Speaker 2: like PG, players like Draymond, guys like that, even Brunson
[15:08] Speaker 2: and Josh Hart have the ability to control their narrative
[15:10] Speaker 2: a little bit or at least respond back to those things,
[15:12] Speaker 2: present stuff from their own angle as opposed to allowing
[15:15] Speaker 2: the media to dictate how they're viewed.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fine line.
[15:20] Speaker 5: I mean, you still got to have the relationship with, obviously,
[15:24] Speaker 5: your local media guys because, you know, the pen is
[15:28] Speaker 5: still powerful. The narrative is still the narrative and you
[15:32] Speaker 5: don't want to get on the bad side of one
[15:33] Speaker 5: of these guys that's been there for 15 years because
[15:37] Speaker 5: your words is your words until they print it how
[15:41] Speaker 5: they want to print it, right? So, you know, you
[15:44] Speaker 5: still got to have the open relationship with them, with
[15:48] Speaker 5: the conversation. But, you know, like Larry said, you know,
[15:55] Speaker 5: unless you have.
[15:58] Speaker 1: The right veterans around you.
[16:02] Speaker 5: That study the game, to teach you how to study
[16:05] Speaker 5: the game, you don't know. The NBA is very different
[16:10] Speaker 5: from college. College, you are a group. Y'all are doing
[16:14] Speaker 5: group activities. When you get into the NBA, there's no babysitting.
[16:20] Speaker 5: When practice is going, you go to your house, ain't
[16:22] Speaker 5: nobody checking up on you.
[16:23] Speaker 3: You got to find your group.
[16:24] Speaker 5: You got to, hey, we'll see you. Your ass better
[16:26] Speaker 5: be on time for practice or whatever we have.
[16:29] Speaker 1: That's it.
[16:29] Speaker 5: They're not checking to see if you're watching film and
[16:32] Speaker 5: doing any of that.
[16:34] Speaker 1: So unless you see.
[16:36] Speaker 5: Somebody doing it and you're asking them questions or they
[16:39] Speaker 5: pull you in and say, hey, man, look, them turnovers
[16:41] Speaker 5: you had, let's watch it because at the end of
[16:44] Speaker 5: the day, the film, The film dictates the habits.
[16:49] Speaker 1: See, I didn't play at the beginning.
[16:52] Speaker 4: Right?
[16:52] Speaker 5: So when I looked at the game, it was too fast.
[16:58] Speaker 5: Motherfuckers jumped too high. Everybody was too strong.
[17:03] Speaker 1: Right.
[17:03] Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, you know, yeah, I'm you don't
[17:06] Speaker 4: need to put me in the game.
[17:07] Speaker 1: Right.
[17:08] Speaker 4: Right.
[17:09] Speaker 5: And then the more you watch it and you start
[17:11] Speaker 5: hearing vets, are you about to spin?
[17:14] Speaker 1: Are you about to go off the double pick?
[17:15] Speaker 3: Right.
[17:15] Speaker 1: And then you're like, how did you know that? If
[17:17] Speaker 1: I know that.
[17:18] Speaker 4: And he'd be like, yeah. So he taps his when
[17:20] Speaker 4: he tap his leg like this.
[17:22] Speaker 5: He's asking for the big man to come set the
[17:25] Speaker 5: screen on this side. So then I'm like, Terrell Brandon.
[17:27] Speaker 5: Then I'm starting, he's like, yeah, they're about to do
[17:29] Speaker 5: a left pick, left drag.
[17:30] Speaker 1: And I was like, why?
[17:31] Speaker 4: Because when he's dribbling down the court, he has his
[17:33] Speaker 4: other hand pointing to his.
[17:34] Speaker 1: Drag man, pointing this way. So it looks like it's natural.
[17:38] Speaker 1: And then now I'm like, watch it.
[17:39] Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to play the Timberwolves so I could
[17:42] Speaker 5: see Terrell Brandon. Then you start watching and you start
[17:45] Speaker 5: picking up habits and Then you start looking at everybody like, oh,
[17:50] Speaker 5: there's your flaw.
[17:51] Speaker 1: There's your flaw.
[17:52] Speaker 3: Let them shoot.
[17:53] Speaker 4: You start hearing these and then you start, hey, Mark,
[17:56] Speaker 4: what is this? When they sit down, what does that mean?
[17:58] Speaker 5: You got to jump on the top side.
[18:02] Speaker 1: Then you start watching film.
[18:03] Speaker 5: Then I got so obsessed with the film because I
[18:06] Speaker 5: felt the film told me everybody's game. That came from
[18:12] Speaker 5: me sitting on the bench though.
[18:13] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[18:14] Speaker 5: Then listening to the vets talk. Because they wasn't watching
[18:18] Speaker 5: the film. It was just the people that was never playing.
[18:20] Speaker 5: We trying to figure out how to get in the game.
[18:22] Speaker 1: But these guys are just vet vets.
[18:24] Speaker 5: So like Dean Garrett sitting there, Henderson, Vaughn, like these
[18:29] Speaker 5: guys are sitting here just talking the game. And it's like, okay, cool.
[18:33] Speaker 5: You know, some of them getting drunk, but it was,
[18:34] Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So once I got into it,
[18:37] Speaker 5: the more I looked at the film, the more it
[18:40] Speaker 5: taught me the game.
[18:41] Speaker 4: I learned this when I was watching film breakdown early on.
[18:45] Speaker 4: There's two ways of watching film. There's the four-hour way
[18:48] Speaker 4: where you're watching two hours of your footage. You're breaking
[18:52] Speaker 4: down everything you did, good and bad. Man, I need
[18:56] Speaker 4: to do this better. Man, I didn't box out right here.
[18:58] Speaker 4: You have to critique yourself inside and out. Then you
[19:01] Speaker 4: watch it for another two hours to watch your teammates.
[19:03] Speaker 4: What the hell are they doing? What didn't he do here?
[19:06] Speaker 4: What could I have said here? Oh, man, this is
[19:09] Speaker 4: the timeout right here. This is when he yelled at him.
[19:12] Speaker 4: I should have went and said something to him right
[19:13] Speaker 4: there because he fucked up as soon as we came
[19:15] Speaker 4: out this time out because the fucking coach yelled at him.
[19:19] Speaker 4: And I could have went over there and said something,
[19:21] Speaker 4: but you compartmentalize all of it. And if you're a leader,
[19:25] Speaker 4: you know that you have to go to film to
[19:27] Speaker 4: find out all the flaws, even for the coach. You
[19:31] Speaker 4: go into practice, you're like, coach, we should have downed
[19:33] Speaker 4: it right there. I was watching last night. We did it.
[19:36] Speaker 4: We did it. And then we didn't do it a
[19:37] Speaker 4: third time. That's how they beat us.
[19:39] Speaker 1: So all of those things, what I say, like I said,
[19:42] Speaker 1: if I could.
[19:42] Speaker 4: Go back, I would do it that way because I
[19:45] Speaker 4: know who else was doing it that way. I know
[19:47] Speaker 4: certain people who are very meticulous. about the game of
[19:50] Speaker 4: basketball as a student. I went away from that when
[19:54] Speaker 4: I got in the league, but I still had the
[19:57] Speaker 4: essence of it. And I wish these guys are really
[19:59] Speaker 4: focused on that instead of trying to find, not necessarily
[20:02] Speaker 4: going away from the hobby of podcasting, but merging, merging
[20:06] Speaker 4: the two. Because I think you can podcast and use
[20:08] Speaker 4: the podcast and break the game down.
[20:12] Speaker 8: Yep.
[20:12] Speaker 4: Break the game down. Don't just talk to the guys.
[20:15] Speaker 4: Talk to them.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Tell them the game. Tell them what you're learning. Show
[20:18] Speaker 1: them some shit. Film is the most uncomfortable thing.
[20:21] Speaker 3: Yes. And then you find out who players really are
[20:24] Speaker 3: in film.
[20:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[20:25] Speaker 6: If they can take criticism and things like that. I think,
[20:27] Speaker 6: and I was tested a lot when I was in Europe. Because,
[20:29] Speaker 6: you know, we watched a lot of film in Europe.
[20:31] Speaker 6: I mean, every single day.
[20:33] Speaker 4: So.
[20:34] Speaker 6: I just feel like it made me a better player,
[20:35] Speaker 6: especially then when I got with Scott Skiles up in Milwaukee.
[20:39] Speaker 3: We were watching film every day my rookie year.
[20:41] Speaker 6: So, you know, it's very uncomfortable, but it really shows
[20:45] Speaker 6: you who's really tough and who really wants to learn.
[20:48] Speaker 1: You know what makes film uncomfortable? Being shown what you
[20:53] Speaker 1: did wrong. Yeah. I already did. You already did. You
[20:58] Speaker 1: already know. I know. I know what I did.
[21:00] Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, the game's over with.
[21:02] Speaker 1: That's all you're thinking about.
[21:03] Speaker 4: It's not like you can sub me back out, motherfucker.
[21:06] Speaker 4: It's called correction. We got to correct it.
[21:08] Speaker 6: But the whole thing is, you think about it the
[21:09] Speaker 6: whole time you're at home. Like, I know they're going
[21:11] Speaker 6: to show this play. They got to show it. They
[21:12] Speaker 6: got to show it. I know they're going to show it.
[21:14] Speaker 6: I used to be the funniest motherfucker. I'd be like, so, Gil,
[21:18] Speaker 6: why did you go for that? I thought I can
[21:20] Speaker 6: steal it.
[21:22] Speaker 1: But you just jeopardized the team defense. Yep, yep. Yeah,
[21:26] Speaker 1: I know that. But I thought I could get it.
[21:28] Speaker 1: I didn't think the motherfucker was looking at me, right? Damn,
[21:31] Speaker 1: my bad, y'all. And that's the rule. Don't stop the
[21:36] Speaker 1: ball high.
[21:37] Speaker 3: I already went.
[21:37] Speaker 1: Don't stop the ball high. And here goes Gilbert stopping
[21:40] Speaker 1: the ball high.
[21:40] Speaker 4: You asked me for my thought. I gave you my thought.
[21:42] Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. I had seven steals. I
[21:46] Speaker 4: was trying to go for the eight.
[21:47] Speaker 3: It's a record.
[21:48] Speaker 4: Play, stop, play. Why didn't you swing it to him? Gilbert,
[21:51] Speaker 4: we were down two. You went for the steal.
[21:54] Speaker 6: It's like getting called on like popcorn reading or something
[21:57] Speaker 6: in class.
[21:59] Speaker 3: It's like you're just waiting like. Please don't.
[22:01] Speaker 1: Like, God damn.
[22:03] Speaker 3: And then when the ones who ain't playing, they like, yes.
[22:06] Speaker 1: I used to love that, boy. So, hey, you, you
[22:09] Speaker 1: don't see him open? No. I mean, I see him
[22:12] Speaker 1: now because of the film. I didn't see him in
[22:14] Speaker 1: the game, coach. That's why I ain't passing. He's there.
[22:18] Speaker 1: I didn't see him. But if I did see him,
[22:21] Speaker 1: I wasn't going to pass. Two of them, I just
[22:22] Speaker 1: hit three shots. I see him now.
[22:26] Speaker 2: So here's another interesting quote about the current state of
[22:28] Speaker 2: defense in the NBA from Podcast P. I want to
[22:30] Speaker 2: get your guys' thoughts on it. So you know our league,
[22:33] Speaker 2: the days of stoppers, those are pretty much gone. The
[22:36] Speaker 2: Tony Allen types, you know, even myself, I call myself
[22:39] Speaker 2: a defender. There's guys that I can't do anything with.
[22:41] Speaker 2: I just have to hope I'm there enough for this
[22:43] Speaker 2: to be a tough shot for him. He might make
[22:46] Speaker 2: the shot, but I did all I could to make
[22:48] Speaker 2: it a tough possession for him.
[22:49] Speaker 1: You just got to tip your hat.
[22:51] Speaker 2: So do you agree with PG saying the days of
[22:53] Speaker 2: defensive stoppers are pretty much gone?
[22:56] Speaker 1: Has the offense evolved that much?
[22:58] Speaker 4: No, I think he's saying the days of his defensive
[23:00] Speaker 4: stopping is gone.
[23:03] Speaker 1: Not everybody else's. Don't bring us all into this.
[23:05] Speaker 4: There's an Eamon Thompson and an Asar Thompson out there
[23:09] Speaker 4: locking shit up.
[23:11] Speaker 1: Still playing defense like they want to. If you don't
[23:13] Speaker 1: want to play defense, bro, just say it. Shit. What
[23:16] Speaker 1: you mean? Everybody got game. Everybody been had game. What
[23:20] Speaker 1: you mean?
[23:20] Speaker 4: Everybody can't stop nobody. Nobody can fucking stop Gilbert. Nobody
[23:25] Speaker 4: can fucking stop Brandon.
[23:26] Speaker 1: Nobody can stop him.
[23:27] Speaker 2: I mean, we've showed clips of Wimby, obviously, before he
[23:29] Speaker 2: was offered a season, but guys reconsidering even going to
[23:32] Speaker 2: the Cup when he's around.
[23:34] Speaker 5: Okay, when you're talking about defensive stoppers, that means like
[23:39] Speaker 5: Tony Allen, right? He was a great defender, but his
[23:44] Speaker 5: team wasn't necessarily great at defending as a team, right?
[23:49] Speaker 1: He's in a different category because.
[23:52] Speaker 5: Now if he was, I mean, we're talking about, you know,
[23:54] Speaker 5: Tony Allen on Memphis and stuff, you know, for the
[23:57] Speaker 5: most part, Mark, I mean, Mark was a great defensive
[23:59] Speaker 5: player because he knew how to, you know, close things up.
[24:01] Speaker 5: But for the most part as a team, you know,
[24:03] Speaker 5: you couldn't say those guys was a bunch of stoppers
[24:05] Speaker 5: like a San Antonio, you know, type of team or
[24:07] Speaker 5: Detroit Pistons type of team. So as an individual, he
[24:12] Speaker 5: knew where to be. Like your job is to make
[24:15] Speaker 5: it difficult on a skilled guy. The fact that, you know,
[24:19] Speaker 5: you're talking about, you know, Brunson.
[24:23] Speaker 1: Shea, a Luka, a KD, a Steph, right?
[24:32] Speaker 5: Yeah, you yourself, for the most part, will be taking
[24:39] Speaker 5: advantage of 9.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Out of 10 matches.
[24:43] Speaker 5: And it's principle at this point. making sure you're doing
[24:48] Speaker 5: your part as a defender. And I think that's where
[24:51] Speaker 5: team defense is very, very key. The more everyone's disciplined.
[24:55] Speaker 5: I know, for the most part, I got to push
[24:58] Speaker 5: him a certain way.
[24:59] Speaker 1: No matter what.
[25:00] Speaker 5: No matter if he scores, I got to still be
[25:02] Speaker 5: able to do my job and hopefully everybody's doing their job. So,
[25:05] Speaker 5: you know, when you're talking about a defensive player, his
[25:08] Speaker 5: job is to do what he's supposed to do, relying
[25:12] Speaker 5: on everybody else.
[25:13] Speaker 3: To do their parts.
[25:14] Speaker 1: I mean... Because Lou Dort is a great defender. The
[25:17] Speaker 1: door to your chamber. But if you remove everybody, because
[25:21] Speaker 1: he's so aggressive, you can go right around him.
[25:22] Speaker 5: But if there's somebody there helping, then his defense becomes another.
[25:26] Speaker 4: Like, it's, I mean, there's just a lot of, like,
[25:32] Speaker 4: there's a reason they, like, with all the foul baiting,
[25:35] Speaker 4: the flopping, these things that I can get you to bait, right?
[25:39] Speaker 1: It's not like defensive rules have changed.
[25:42] Speaker 4: So your defense is at a disadvantage because it's still
[25:45] Speaker 4: defensive principles from 1950-something.
[25:48] Speaker 1: This goes back to my point. I just said this
[25:50] Speaker 1: is the peak of.
[25:52] Speaker 4: It goes back to my point of the focus on
[25:55] Speaker 4: offensive moves, how everybody trains offensive, offensive, offensive, right? If
[26:01] Speaker 4: I'm looking at film and looking at your tendencies all
[26:05] Speaker 4: the time, by the time I play you, I should
[26:08] Speaker 4: know your tendencies. You have to be an exceptional player
[26:12] Speaker 4: for me to know your tendency and you still counter them.
[26:14] Speaker 4: There's only a certain amount of people can do that.
[26:16] Speaker 4: So if you're automatically asking that out on who you're
[26:18] Speaker 4: going against, what Paul George is saying ain't got nothing
[26:21] Speaker 4: to do with the skill of defense. It's the effort
[26:24] Speaker 4: of defense. If he's a defensive-minded player like he say
[26:28] Speaker 4: he is, all defense, You should know the scouting report
[26:33] Speaker 4: to know that you're not just going to tip a
[26:34] Speaker 4: hat and just hope he make it and he that good. Bro,
[26:38] Speaker 4: ain't nobody out there doing shit you ain't never seen before.
[26:42] Speaker 4: I'm making you go this way all night.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Luca. I'm making you go this way. Yeah, but then
[26:50] Speaker 1: you got to rely on your back line.
[26:51] Speaker 4: A wild man would never make that statement because when
[26:54] Speaker 4: you play hard and you know the scout report, that's
[26:57] Speaker 4: just an excuse.
[26:57] Speaker 3: At that point. I think the players are just.
[26:59] Speaker 1: But it's different than when we played, right? We weren't
[27:02] Speaker 1: allowed to switch.
[27:04] Speaker 4: Right?
[27:04] Speaker 1: If we did, it was a forced switch. It was like,
[27:07] Speaker 1: if we switch, motherfuckers called us lazy. Yes. You're not
[27:10] Speaker 1: getting over the screen. You're not getting over the screen.
[27:12] Speaker 1: You're taking the lazy way out.
[27:13] Speaker 3: Yes.
[27:14] Speaker 5: So, I don't give a fuck how great you are
[27:16] Speaker 5: as a defensive player. We can neutralize your great-ass defense
[27:22] Speaker 5: by just sending a pick.
[27:23] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[27:23] Speaker 1: Right now.
[27:24] Speaker 4: Pick, pick. Yeah, yeah.
[27:25] Speaker 1: Get you to fuck, go somewhere else. You won't even,
[27:28] Speaker 1: no effort. Because you fighting over... That's not your defensive
[27:33] Speaker 1: plan anymore. Right?
[27:34] Speaker 5: So for the most part, a defensive player who can
[27:38] Speaker 5: manipulate the game can be really pushed out of the game.
[27:44] Speaker 5: Some guy who can sit under and he can really
[27:46] Speaker 5: guard the ball like the Davion Mitchell's dough type.
[27:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. And if he's hurry up and set this pick,
[27:52] Speaker 1: now he got to switch. Oh, God damn.
[27:53] Speaker 3: Get him off me.
[27:54] Speaker 1: Get him off me. They not playing old school style.
[27:57] Speaker 1: Like you're saying, it's neutralizing their defense.
[27:59] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[28:00] Speaker 4: Because now he doesn't get to play defense.
[28:02] Speaker 3: He's off ball.
[28:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:03] Speaker 4: And they're taking the defensive players off ball all the time.
[28:06] Speaker 4: But like I said, Paul's going to promote that. Paul
[28:09] Speaker 4: can't promote that to the guys who want to play defense. Like, hey, man,
[28:13] Speaker 4: these guys are just that good, man. Just put a
[28:14] Speaker 4: hand up.
[28:15] Speaker 1: No, man. Tip your head. Like Luka, right?
[28:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, but what he's saying is because they've been switching
[28:19] Speaker 3: so much though now. So, like, if you switch and
[28:21] Speaker 3: then the next guy, you just put a hand up.
[28:22] Speaker 5: Like, let's say, you know how Luka's a bad defensive player?
[28:24] Speaker 3: I think it's the defensive player schemes. I think it's effort.
[28:26] Speaker 1: Man, I want to stop you, man. Fuck all that.
[28:28] Speaker 3: Ain't nobody in here trying to do none of that.
[28:30] Speaker 4: I'm not about to say that out loud to the
[28:31] Speaker 4: world and let them know that there's somebody out there
[28:34] Speaker 4: that can just give me buckets on demand in the league.
[28:37] Speaker 4: And I got to go suit up next year? Everybody
[28:39] Speaker 4: think I'm sweet now. Hey, PG said we good enough
[28:43] Speaker 4: to just go score that bitch. He's going to tip
[28:45] Speaker 4: his head.
[28:46] Speaker 1: He's going to switch. But that's what I'm saying.
[28:48] Speaker 5: So somebody like Luka, back in the day, you couldn't
[28:51] Speaker 5: necessarily pick on him unless you just did an ISO
[28:55] Speaker 5: on his man.
[28:56] Speaker 4: Right.
[28:57] Speaker 7: Right?
[28:57] Speaker 5: So if he was guarding Bruce Bowen, he was safe
[29:00] Speaker 5: for the night. Because you're not going to be sitting
[29:02] Speaker 5: there running your offense around Bruce Bowen when you got
[29:05] Speaker 5: Tim Duncan and Tony Parker and Ginobili in the game.
[29:08] Speaker 3: Right?
[29:09] Speaker 1: So he can just sit there all day.
[29:11] Speaker 4: But he's in rotation. But he has to be in rotation.
[29:13] Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, you're not good with the feet, but...
[29:16] Speaker 4: be be like your rotation okay.
[29:18] Speaker 5: Now it's sitting there like no no come on over
[29:21] Speaker 5: here pick and roll now i can dance i don't
[29:23] Speaker 5: want you on me on no more right i don't
[29:25] Speaker 5: want you on me no more i want lucas or
[29:28] Speaker 5: that's all they're.
[29:28] Speaker 1: Doing now so it's really kind.
[29:31] Speaker 5: Of hard well i mean like the only real you
[29:34] Speaker 5: gotta have some effort though i.
[29:35] Speaker 6: Mean yeah but like one of them screens man hey
[29:39] Speaker 6: yo we can look through this.
[29:41] Speaker 5: Yeah you get through it but there that's a problem
[29:43] Speaker 5: you get through it when our defense is called switching
[29:46] Speaker 5: so you ran over and he went to switch and
[29:50] Speaker 5: you fought over like you wanted to because you.
[29:52] Speaker 4: Went out of character and i made that pass back Three,
[29:56] Speaker 4: who are they getting mad at? It's you for being
[29:58] Speaker 4: too over-aggressive. You took it personal. You got to rotate.
[30:01] Speaker 3: Rotate, let him get through, trap the next one.
[30:04] Speaker 6: That's not the defensive principle here.
[30:08] Speaker 3: But that's what we're talking about.
[30:10] Speaker 6: So that means the defensive strategy, the people who have
[30:13] Speaker 6: the defense, they're terrible then.
[30:15] Speaker 5: I watched pick and rolls with guards, and I realized
[30:21] Speaker 5: they don't even know how to set a pick, so
[30:23] Speaker 5: they're open.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Right.
[30:26] Speaker 3: If I want to roll on you.
[30:28] Speaker 4: Right.
[30:29] Speaker 5: And you're playing defense like this and you're trying to
[30:31] Speaker 5: fight over. I'm going to set it lower because you
[30:34] Speaker 5: have to switch so I can I have the inside.
[30:37] Speaker 1: They set it on the top side to pop back now. Yeah.
[30:41] Speaker 4: And I'm like, yo, if y'all just if y'all just
[30:43] Speaker 4: pick the inside shoulder.
[30:47] Speaker 1: You already have an advantage on them. Right?
[30:50] Speaker 5: It's like he's playing behind you, no different than, like,
[30:52] Speaker 5: a receiver. But all these guys is setting it, knowing
[30:55] Speaker 5: that it's just a.
[30:56] Speaker 1: Switch, dog.
[30:57] Speaker 4: But that should make it easy on the defense, is
[30:59] Speaker 4: what I'm saying, with Paul. It should make it so
[31:01] Speaker 4: much easier for you not to say, hey, man, a
[31:03] Speaker 4: guy hit me in the ISO, and he hit me
[31:05] Speaker 4: with the boop, boop, boop, and he shoot it, and
[31:07] Speaker 4: it go in, man.
[31:08] Speaker 1: Tip your hat. Nah, man, lock his shit up.
[31:11] Speaker 5: I don't even see the phrasia. I don't even see
[31:13] Speaker 5: the fake cut. Like, you know how many fucking layups
[31:16] Speaker 5: I will get? Just running full speed. Ah!
[31:20] Speaker 1: Because they're switching. They're switching everything. So I'm going to
[31:23] Speaker 1: run all the way up to the screen and just
[31:25] Speaker 1: cut it. What's happening? Easy lay.
[31:28] Speaker 6: I mean, because if the offensive guy is waiting on
[31:30] Speaker 6: a switch, if you just get through that first one
[31:32] Speaker 6: and then he's looking for a switch, like he ain't
[31:34] Speaker 6: coming off hard. Because first of all, he's not coming
[31:36] Speaker 6: off hard because he's looking for the switch.
[31:38] Speaker 3: So he know, all right.
[31:39] Speaker 1: I got him but still in front of me.
[31:40] Speaker 3: I mean, that first one, I do feel shot.
[31:43] Speaker 6: Like, yo, you can get up and get over that
[31:45] Speaker 6: first one first and then see where it's at.
[31:47] Speaker 1: That's not the defensive principles now.
[31:50] Speaker 4: So if I'm doing a pick and roll and you
[31:53] Speaker 4: fight over and my guy's popping, who got him now?
[31:56] Speaker 1: Well, we know, though, Gil. We know that's not a
[31:58] Speaker 1: real screen.
[31:59] Speaker 6: As far as communication, like when Keenan was saying yesterday, man, listen,
[32:02] Speaker 6: I'm going to just go trap Kobe.
[32:04] Speaker 1: That's what we're doing.
[32:05] Speaker 3: Fuck the schemes. I'm going to just go do this
[32:07] Speaker 3: because we've got to stop.
[32:08] Speaker 1: You can do that out there as a vet. PG
[32:10] Speaker 1: can do that. Yes, get over the screen. I got him.
[32:12] Speaker 1: But he's coming off a guy that don't shoot. They
[32:15] Speaker 1: shoot now. You got to remember, they're playing five out.
[32:18] Speaker 3: That's what we're saying.
[32:19] Speaker 4: So if you're talking about that screen at the top,
[32:21] Speaker 4: guard to guard.
[32:22] Speaker 1: Guard to guard.
[32:23] Speaker 4: I'm on you. Josiah's on me. Guard to guard. Josiah,
[32:29] Speaker 4: we not switching this. We not switching this, Josiah. Granted,
[32:34] Speaker 4: our team scheme is saying we switching everything. But I'm
[32:37] Speaker 4: telling Josiah, I'm getting over this. Getting over this. Because
[32:40] Speaker 4: we know they're going to re-screen. We know they're going
[32:42] Speaker 4: to re-screen. But they're not going to re-screen if we
[32:43] Speaker 4: switch first. If we switch first, he's just going to
[32:46] Speaker 4: take you. So let me get over.
[32:48] Speaker 1: Yep.
[32:49] Speaker 3: Let him try to do it again. Give me some
[32:51] Speaker 3: type of effort.
[32:51] Speaker 4: Now, at least we run three seconds off the clock.
[32:53] Speaker 4: At least we run some time off the clock. Now,
[32:55] Speaker 4: if he end up getting on Josiah, I can help now.
[32:58] Speaker 4: Now I'm loaded up because I'm like, all right, we're
[33:01] Speaker 4: not going to let you just go up against Joe.
[33:04] Speaker 4: We're not having none of those conversations. You got a
[33:07] Speaker 4: defensive guy that's saying, man, when you switch and you
[33:10] Speaker 4: got a nigga on you, it's just like, man, he
[33:12] Speaker 4: ain't got no help.
[33:13] Speaker 1: Pray for the best.
[33:13] Speaker 3: Pray for the best.
[33:14] Speaker 1: That's the problem.
[33:15] Speaker 4: They took away the overthinking and tried to make the
[33:20] Speaker 4: game as simple as possible.
[33:23] Speaker 8: And it.
[33:25] Speaker 4: Is really dumbed down creativity. thoughts and understanding like human behavior.
[33:35] Speaker 1: Like I, you know, I watch it. I'm sitting here.
[33:37] Speaker 5: Y'all just, y'all are doing pointless picks. These are some
[33:39] Speaker 5: of these are picks are pointless. Where's the fake picks?
[33:42] Speaker 5: Where's the under picks? Where's the pick and rescreen? Where's
[33:45] Speaker 5: the pick and dive? Where's, Where's the screen to screen?
[33:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go screen you first for you
[33:52] Speaker 4: to go.
[33:53] Speaker 3: To the screen.
[33:53] Speaker 5: And I'm going to come behind you. What happened to
[33:56] Speaker 5: screen to screener? You screen, I screen your man.
[33:59] Speaker 3: You go to the lob. Where's all these?
[34:00] Speaker 4: When they switch and you got to run that. Screen
[34:03] Speaker 4: to screener, they switch and you should be wide open.
[34:05] Speaker 4: Like if Rudy Goldberg, man, is setting the screen, the
[34:08] Speaker 4: other guard.
[34:09] Speaker 5: Is setting the pick on Rudy Goldberg's man.
[34:11] Speaker 1: Rudy Goldberg is going to drop.
[34:13] Speaker 5: I'm going to come for the handoff. I don't care
[34:16] Speaker 5: what you did. Remember, Rudy Gobert just ran to the basket.
[34:20] Speaker 9: He's a seven-footer. It's a guard on him. It's a
[34:22] Speaker 9: guard going to be on him no matter what. They
[34:24] Speaker 9: have to switch because they've been switching the whole time.
[34:27] Speaker 9: So now y'all switching. Y'all got to switch it. So
[34:29] Speaker 9: you brought up Gobert. We're going to talk about the
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[36:10] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of dogs, let's talk about some dogs in
[36:13] Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals now. So let's talk about some
[36:16] Speaker 2: Western Conference playoff action from last night. The Warriors, blue
[36:19] Speaker 2: leads at home in both games, three and four, were
[36:21] Speaker 2: on the brink of elimination, heading to Minnesota in game five.
[36:24] Speaker 2: Silver lining was the possibility of Steph Curry potentially returning
[36:28] Speaker 2: for a game at the Chase Center in game six
[36:30] Speaker 2: if the Warriors were able to extend the series. Anthony Edwards,
[36:34] Speaker 2: Julius Randle and company wanted to end any chance of
[36:36] Speaker 2: Steph coming back by closing out the series. Minnesota was
[36:39] Speaker 2: looking to reach the conference finals for the second straight season.
[36:42] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the highlights.
[36:46] Speaker 2: So even in this do or die scenario, Jonathan Kaminga
[36:51] Speaker 2: was doing his thing, but the Wolves came out, trying
[36:54] Speaker 2: to put this thing to bed. So Jonathan Kaminga, big
[36:58] Speaker 2: once again, off the bench for the Warriors. Timberwolves put
[37:01] Speaker 2: together an impressive closeout performance, dominated this one from the
[37:03] Speaker 2: jump as there were only two lead changes in the
[37:05] Speaker 2: entire game. Minnesota led by as much as 25 points
[37:08] Speaker 2: and shot 63% from the field, including 42% from three.
[37:12] Speaker 2: Julius Randle was a force to be reckoned with, leading
[37:15] Speaker 2: all scorers with 29 points on a very efficient 13-for-19 shooting.
[37:19] Speaker 2: He also added eight rebounds and five assists. Besides Randle,
[37:22] Speaker 2: only Anthony Edwards and Kevin Garnett have posted that stat
[37:25] Speaker 2: line in a playoff game in Wolves franchise history, and
[37:28] Speaker 2: nobody did it with better shooting percentage than the.
[37:30] Speaker 1: 72% from the field posted by Randle.
[37:33] Speaker 2: Ant-Man had 22 points, 12 assists, and seven rebounds. And
[37:36] Speaker 2: he now adds Steph, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green to
[37:38] Speaker 2: the list of legends. He's defeated in a playoff series. Yes,
[37:41] Speaker 2: Steph did play in game one, so it does count.
[37:44] Speaker 2: Other legends on the list include Kevin Durant, Devin Booker,
[37:46] Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic, Luka Doncic, and LeBron James. The Wolves also
[37:50] Speaker 2: had four other players in double figures. Rudy Gobert had
[37:53] Speaker 2: 17 and 8 boards. Mike Conley had 16 and 8 dimes.
[37:56] Speaker 2: Jada McDaniels had 14. And Dante DiVincenzo added 13 off
[38:00] Speaker 2: the bench in this one.
[38:01] Speaker 1: So for the Warriors, Brandon Pajinsky.
[38:03] Speaker 2: Led them in scoring with 28 points, though much of
[38:05] Speaker 2: that was with the game out of hand. Jonathan Kaminga
[38:08] Speaker 2: had 26 points off the bench in 32 minutes of action.
[38:11] Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler had 17 points on 4-4-11 shooting in 42
[38:15] Speaker 2: minutes on the night. We'll have more on playoff Jimmy later.
[38:18] Speaker 2: And Draymond Green had 10.6 rebounds and 6 assists. So
[38:22] Speaker 2: the Warriors were able to cut the lead to 9
[38:25] Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter. But that would not be enough.
[38:31] Speaker 2: As the Wolves were on a mission. Sacre bleu, as
[38:34] Speaker 2: they say. And Rudy Gobert, homeland. Like I said, Ant-Man
[38:39] Speaker 2: with the 12 assists. Getting it done. Both sides of
[38:43] Speaker 2: the ball.
[38:44] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And you got to give kudos to
[38:47] Speaker 1: Warriors playing without Steph. Didn't it?
[38:49] Speaker 2: Did not give up in this game. But this Wolf
[38:53] Speaker 2: squad was just too much for them. Four straight losses
[38:58] Speaker 2: in this series for the gentlemen's sweep.
[39:02] Speaker 1: We see Julius Randle. doing his thing.
[39:07] Speaker 2: As the clock ran out so for the first time
[39:09] Speaker 2: in franchise history Minnesota advances to its second straight conference
[39:14] Speaker 2: finals never been done by the Wolves before two straight
[39:16] Speaker 2: conference finals so in the victory Anthony Edwards reached a
[39:20] Speaker 2: significant playoff milestone let's check it out so Ant-Man became
[39:26] Speaker 2: the sixth player in NBA history to score 1,000 playoff
[39:29] Speaker 2: points before a the age of 24, joining the likes
[39:32] Speaker 2: of Kobe, Tony Parker, LeBron, KD, and Tatum. Every one
[39:36] Speaker 2: of those other guys is an NBA champion. So let's
[39:40] Speaker 2: get into it. What does leading the Timberwolves to back-to-back
[39:44] Speaker 2: conference finals say about Ant-Man?
[39:51] Speaker 1: I mean, he's a dog. He's a dog. Much like underdog.
[39:57] Speaker 3: You know, he loves competition. He loves, you know, he
[39:59] Speaker 3: loves this time.
[40:00] Speaker 1: Of the year.
[40:01] Speaker 6: You can tell this is something that he's been wanting
[40:04] Speaker 6: and something that he lives for. I'm just excited for him.
[40:09] Speaker 6: I mean, at 24 years old, doing what he do.
[40:13] Speaker 6: You know, I can't wait to see him in the
[40:14] Speaker 6: next series. Let's shift over to this side of the couch.
[40:18] Speaker 6: Cemetery Larry has decided to take an impromptu nap here
[40:22] Speaker 6: in Gil's Arena presented by underdog Woop Woop. Smile on
[40:24] Speaker 6: his face, dog.
[40:25] Speaker 1: Woop Woop. Dreaming about these Timberwolves. I thought it was night-night.
[40:30] Speaker 1: Not night-night? For some. Night-night, niggas? It is for some. Oh,
[40:33] Speaker 1: it's night-night. Welcome to Cancun. Oh, shit. We've been waiting
[40:37] Speaker 1: for you. I didn't see no night-nights last night. You
[40:39] Speaker 1: see some night-nights? No, I didn't see no night-nights. You
[40:42] Speaker 1: didn't see no night-nights? No night-nights.
[40:44] Speaker 4: Nah.
[40:46] Speaker 3: The Night Night Man was in street clothes.
[40:47] Speaker 4: The Night Night Man wasn't there. They took everybody in.
[40:52] Speaker 4: Bad man was on vacation. Steve Kerr. You let Jonathan
[40:56] Speaker 4: Kaminga down, man. He could have saved the day. He
[41:02] Speaker 4: could have sparked the energy that gave them what they
[41:06] Speaker 4: needed to sustain Steph so he could come back. But
[41:10] Speaker 4: he didn't use him early on. You confided in Pajishki.
[41:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, but just between eight points in the game, had
[41:18] Speaker 2: the Warriors won this game, they wouldn't have played again
[41:19] Speaker 2: until Sunday.
[41:20] Speaker 1: They would have had a nice extended break. But that's
[41:23] Speaker 1: a happy day for them. Oh, you know, he did
[41:26] Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. Night-night.
[41:32] Speaker 3: Night-night.
[41:32] Speaker 4: Took everybody in. Sacrificing goats. Like Tommy Shepard.
[41:43] Speaker 3: He ain't playing. He ain't playing.
[41:46] Speaker 1: He's trying to tell everybody quietly, too. So I like that.
[41:50] Speaker 4: Did let everybody know that he is him for whoever
[41:52] Speaker 4: wanted to listen. Told Obama to his face. Is he
[41:56] Speaker 4: really him?
[41:59] Speaker 1: 23 years old. I think I picked the wolves. Did
[42:05] Speaker 1: I pick the wolves? Did you pick the wolves? Just
[42:08] Speaker 1: making sure. Joshua Dominick. We're going to let you have
[42:10] Speaker 1: the over to you. Hey, man, now, back-to-back Western Conference Finals.
[42:15] Speaker 2: At only 23 years old, we named the list of
[42:17] Speaker 2: players that he's defeated to get there in the postseason.
[42:21] Speaker 2: Swept KD in the Suns last year, beat Joker in seven.
[42:24] Speaker 2: Guy LeBron in the Lakers this year, Luka as well.
[42:27] Speaker 2: And now Steph, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green added to
[42:29] Speaker 2: that list. Steph did play in one game, so he
[42:31] Speaker 2: is Ant-Man eligible. I mean, you know, he's showing that,
[42:35] Speaker 2: you know... He played him one game.
[42:38] Speaker 3: That was a nice piece.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Let me save.
[42:40] Speaker 3: My fellow brother.
[42:42] Speaker 1: Let me save my fellow brother real quick. Am I happy?
[42:45] Speaker 2: Yes, but not really because I would have loved to
[42:47] Speaker 2: see Steph be a part of it. Had some Kaminga
[42:49] Speaker 2: agendas I wanted to push out, but.
[42:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's, um... I mean, he's showing that he's getting better,
[42:53] Speaker 1: making strides.
[42:54] Speaker 5: I mean, if we watch how he was his rookie
[42:57] Speaker 5: season versus how he is now, completely different player, right?
[43:01] Speaker 4: You can see he does watch film. He works on
[43:03] Speaker 4: his game.
[43:04] Speaker 1: Um....
[43:06] Speaker 5: Those comments he made about everybody wasn't skilled for back, you.
[43:09] Speaker 1: Know, I can see why because.
[43:14] Speaker 4: He has something a lot of those guys didn't have.
[43:16] Speaker 4: He has the athleticism that everyone had. Everyone didn't have
[43:20] Speaker 4: the skills with the athleticism. Either you was very athletic
[43:24] Speaker 4: or you didn't have no athleticism and you were skilled.
[43:27] Speaker 4: So for a guy who has very great footwork with athleticism,
[43:33] Speaker 4: which is rare, Right, you're talking about, when we're talking
[43:37] Speaker 4: about the elite of athleticism, you're talking about him, DeRozan. Like,
[43:41] Speaker 4: DeRozan had great.
[43:42] Speaker 5: Footwork for a guy who had a 40-something inch vertical,
[43:45] Speaker 5: which usually the athletes just really hang on to their athleticism. So,
[43:50] Speaker 5: you know, he has shown that, you know, he's very, very.
[43:56] Speaker 1: In tuned with this sport at an early age. And,
[44:00] Speaker 1: you know, he's up there with a great group of guys.
[44:02] Speaker 2: So the Warriors had a hand in creating this monster
[44:04] Speaker 2: that is Ant-Man. Obviously, his pre-draft workouts realized he wasn't
[44:07] Speaker 2: working hard enough. This past summer, being able to work
[44:10] Speaker 2: out with Steph during the Olympics, start shooting a lot
[44:12] Speaker 2: more threes, said, you know, Steph was very instrumental in
[44:15] Speaker 2: helping him decide to do that this season and now
[44:18] Speaker 2: gets to hit that squad with the gentlemen's sweep. But, Mr. B,
[44:20] Speaker 2: when you look at Ant-Man and what he's been able
[44:22] Speaker 2: to accomplish at such a very young age now, like
[44:24] Speaker 2: I said, first time in a Wolves franchise history that
[44:27] Speaker 2: they've reached the conference finals two straight seasons.
[44:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting.
[44:31] Speaker 6: Exciting, man. I mean, you know, he's young. You know,
[44:33] Speaker 6: he's not really trying to be the face of the league. But,
[44:35] Speaker 6: I mean, he just goes out there and play hard
[44:38] Speaker 6: every night. I love his attitude. I love that he
[44:41] Speaker 6: doesn't care. You know, he's a people's person to me,
[44:46] Speaker 6: kind of. You know, when he does the interview, he
[44:48] Speaker 6: come in there with sweats on, hoodie on. You know,
[44:51] Speaker 6: he's like a hooper, like an AAU hooper. And, you know,
[44:55] Speaker 6: I just love his knowledge for the game and just
[44:59] Speaker 6: wanting to keep getting better. And, you know, loving to
[45:01] Speaker 6: be around the greats and asking the greats questions and
[45:03] Speaker 6: things like that. So I think the game, I think,
[45:05] Speaker 6: you know, when LeBron and Steph and them leave, I
[45:07] Speaker 6: think the game is in good hands still. You know,
[45:10] Speaker 6: still got a young Tatum, still got a young Luka,
[45:12] Speaker 6: still got a young Anthony Edwards and SGA and things
[45:16] Speaker 6: like that. So, yeah, I think, you know, the league
[45:20] Speaker 6: will be fine.
[45:21] Speaker 2: So Ant-Man loves to work but also loves to work
[45:24] Speaker 2: out in the discussion for facing the league. You can
[45:27] Speaker 2: do both. They are not mutually exclusive.
[45:30] Speaker 4: You can't.
[45:32] Speaker 1: No, you can't.
[45:33] Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
[45:34] Speaker 4: We're singing right now.
[45:36] Speaker 1: No.
[45:38] Speaker 4: That's why I still, that's why I still, you know.
[45:43] Speaker 3: It's open.
[45:44] Speaker 1: What do they call it? Like, you know, like, let's
[45:46] Speaker 1: do a tryout. Absolutely. Let's do a tryout. We're having tryouts.
[45:50] Speaker 4: The more holes he tries out, the more people they
[45:53] Speaker 4: try out for face.
[45:54] Speaker 1: Of the league. Thanks. You can't have them both, brother.
[45:57] Speaker 3: You can't. It's just a narrow it down.
[45:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[45:59] Speaker 3: Narrow it down.
[46:00] Speaker 1: Narrow it down. Narrow it down. Pick one. Narrow it down, bro.
[46:04] Speaker 1: Narrow it down, man.
[46:05] Speaker 3: But they say the gap is closed.
[46:06] Speaker 1: Put three of them. Yeah, you got three. Just pick
[46:09] Speaker 1: the one you like real much.
[46:12] Speaker 5: Hang out with her as long as you're famous, man.
[46:15] Speaker 5: The one that can speak very well around white folks.
[46:18] Speaker 1: Oh, you got to get the one that like you.
[46:19] Speaker 1: The one that like you too. No, she don't even
[46:22] Speaker 1: like me. No, no. Just some corporate people got to
[46:25] Speaker 1: like her. Larry Bird won three MVPs and he was
[46:28] Speaker 1: getting it in. Yeah, they didn't have that back then.
[46:30] Speaker 3: Magic Johnson was getting into it.
[46:32] Speaker 1: Magic as we know. We didn't know.
[46:35] Speaker 3: Now we know.
[46:36] Speaker 1: Magic as we know. We knew this.
[46:37] Speaker 5: I think the girls today think that child support is
[46:40] Speaker 5: actually the bag.
[46:41] Speaker 3: You goofy. That ain't the bag.
[46:44] Speaker 1: The child support ain't the bag. Building his empire is
[46:50] Speaker 1: the bag. Shout out to the Magic Johnson theater. Shutting
[46:53] Speaker 1: up is the bag.
[46:55] Speaker 3: The fear.
[46:57] Speaker 5: See, I don't think they understand the fear is worth
[47:02] Speaker 5: more than the public. Because once you put it in
[47:07] Speaker 5: the public, it's like, okay, whatever it comes with. The
[47:11] Speaker 5: fear of telling someone is what makes people.
[47:15] Speaker 5: And that's just that bad. But put it like this.
[47:19] Speaker 5: Every loaf of bread I get as the name You get.
[47:27] Speaker 1: One slice of bread, right?
[47:32] Speaker 5: When you ruin the name, it ruins how many loaves
[47:37] Speaker 5: I can get.
[47:38] Speaker 1: So as a mother, as the mother of our children.
[47:44] Speaker 5: You start talking like I'm the best father in the world.
[47:47] Speaker 1: These people are giving me loaves.
[47:50] Speaker 5: Which is giving you slices to, at some point, you
[47:54] Speaker 5: got your own load.
[47:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[47:56] Speaker 5: You're supposed to big me up. The more you make
[47:58] Speaker 5: me look bad, it just hurts. I'm the one that's
[48:01] Speaker 5: generating what you're going to eat off. You can't say,
[48:03] Speaker 5: I want child support, and you throw my name. I
[48:04] Speaker 5: don't got no ends. You got to think of it
[48:07] Speaker 5: like a business. If you are the business, I got
[48:09] Speaker 5: to make this business look so great that me and
[48:13] Speaker 5: our child is receiving benefits from it.
[48:15] Speaker 3: That's the same as parenting, too.
[48:17] Speaker 4: You know, when you're... Your VM should not be bad-mouthing
[48:20] Speaker 4: you if you don't fuck with her.
[48:23] Speaker 1: Like, why would you badmouth? I don't fuck with you
[48:25] Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but they're thinking emotional.
[48:28] Speaker 3: They're not thinking like, you know, they think.
[48:30] Speaker 4: They don't want to see you happy, smiling, with some
[48:33] Speaker 4: other work.
[48:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you're not going to be happy.
[48:36] Speaker 1: You'd rather cut your nose off than to spite your face? Uh-huh.
[48:39] Speaker 3: Well, that's... Because you, like, I've got to.
[48:42] Speaker 5: Listen, I have to legally pay your child support, correct?
[48:47] Speaker 5: if you think about child support, the more money I make,
[48:50] Speaker 5: the more money you get.
[48:52] Speaker 1: So a smart woman would say, wait a minute.
[48:58] Speaker 5: I'm going to make you look like the best person
[49:01] Speaker 5: in the world.
[49:02] Speaker 1: I need you to get, so I'm going to always, oh,
[49:04] Speaker 1: he's the greatest father. He's the great, he's the great,
[49:07] Speaker 1: he's the, your bags go up. It trickles down.
[49:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, but half the time they still want you.
[49:11] Speaker 1: Cool. Let's get back to, the actual basketball. That was basketball.
[49:16] Speaker 1: It is basketball.
[49:18] Speaker 3: That is basketball. All encompassing.
[49:20] Speaker 5: Because that's the reason that being the face of the NBA...
[49:25] Speaker 5: will be a little difficult role for him because he
[49:29] Speaker 5: has mothers out there that don't understand the place.
[49:31] Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right, right. Despite all that. You can't
[49:35] Speaker 1: despite all that. What I'm saying, despite all that, winning
[49:37] Speaker 1: trumps all of that. No, it does not. They don't
[49:39] Speaker 1: care about who won. I'm talking about for the fans. No, no, no.
[49:42] Speaker 1: Show me one.
[49:47] Speaker 4: Show me one in today's game where you can be
[49:50] Speaker 4: a bachelor out there with four or five baby mamas that's.
[49:52] Speaker 3: Talking shit in the park.
[49:54] Speaker 5: I can't trust, as a company, me putting a brand
[49:58] Speaker 5: on you, knowing you don't have this part of your
[50:00] Speaker 5: life under control.
[50:02] Speaker 1: How?
[50:03] Speaker 5: At any given moment. This woman can say anything about
[50:09] Speaker 5: you that compromises the business.
[50:11] Speaker 2: But you don't have to give them a ring if
[50:13] Speaker 2: you're winning them on the basketball court.
[50:15] Speaker 1: You're attached to them. You're attached to them.
[50:18] Speaker 4: I just looked at something just now.
[50:24] Speaker 1: We won. We won. We won. The bigger you get,
[50:28] Speaker 1: the more they want to talk. Absolutely. And they hate
[50:31] Speaker 1: you already, but now they got you winning. Hey. Hey.
[50:35] Speaker 4: He can't.
[50:35] Speaker 3: But then you don't win, though, either.
[50:38] Speaker 1: They don't understand that. You lose it, too.
[50:40] Speaker 3: So we both looking like two big-ass losers.
[50:42] Speaker 4: We're not an option in the equation.
[50:45] Speaker 1: But that's the part that doesn't register.
[50:49] Speaker 2: But isn't that part of the growth and maturity you
[50:50] Speaker 2: have as a basketball player?
[50:51] Speaker 1: Ant, only 23 years old right now.
[50:54] Speaker 2: His success on the court, what he's been able to
[50:55] Speaker 2: do last season, reaching the Western Conference Finals, obviously losing
[50:58] Speaker 2: to the Mavs this season, now in a position to
[51:00] Speaker 2: potentially win his first ring in the league at age 23.
[51:05] Speaker 1: Me personally?
[51:06] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[51:06] Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is if you're only 23, right,
[51:10] Speaker 5: you see what company you're in.
[51:12] Speaker 1: Now, look at that company. Do they have the same
[51:15] Speaker 1: outside problems that you have?
[51:17] Speaker 4: And what he's saying is Steph is the last face.
[51:20] Speaker 4: I would consider Steph the face now that's going to
[51:22] Speaker 4: hand it off to him.
[51:24] Speaker 1: Look at his resume. Yeah.
[51:25] Speaker 4: Look at he's Patrick Mahomes. Tom just gave it to Pat. Like,
[51:30] Speaker 4: here you go, Pat.
[51:31] Speaker 1: Tom was with Giselle and marriage is clean. Ron probably
[51:35] Speaker 1: the Tom Brady. Yeah, definitely Ron is the Tom Brady.
[51:38] Speaker 1: That's for sure.
[51:39] Speaker 4: Look at Giannis. Clean and family.
[51:42] Speaker 5: So what I'm saying is no matter what the relationships is,
[51:49] Speaker 5: it's still a business. And you have to make business
[51:53] Speaker 5: decisions for the future of your brand.
[51:57] Speaker 4: There has to be, like, if she wants $ 2, 500, maybe
[52:01] Speaker 4: you might have to give her.
[52:02] Speaker 3: $ 10, 000.
[52:03] Speaker 4: $ 10, 000.
[52:04] Speaker 5: With a gag order. Do not throw my name under
[52:07] Speaker 5: the bus for the best of it. So I'm going
[52:09] Speaker 5: to give you $ 7, 500 extra. Just to be cool with me.
[52:14] Speaker 5: So you can be cool. It's a business. You have
[52:18] Speaker 5: to invest in yourself.
[52:19] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of making good business decisions, back when the
[52:23] Speaker 2: Cat Julius Randall trade went down, we had a ton
[52:25] Speaker 2: of discussion about who we thought run the trade. Immediately,
[52:28] Speaker 2: both teams have been thriving in the wake of that.
[52:30] Speaker 2: Timberwolves a little shaky during the regular season, leading some
[52:34] Speaker 2: to question if it was a good move or not.
[52:35] Speaker 2: But Julius Randall has been doing his thing. Had an
[52:38] Speaker 2: impressive series. He averaged 25 points. seven assists, seven rebounds
[52:42] Speaker 2: on 53% shooting. Warriors head coach Steve Kerr had high
[52:45] Speaker 2: praise for Randle in his post-game conference.
[52:48] Speaker 10: I mean, Julius Randle was incredible. What a series. And
[52:53] Speaker 10: he's always been a really good player in this league.
[52:55] Speaker 10: I think he has taken a leap. I remember playing
[52:59] Speaker 10: here early in the season and it looked like a
[53:02] Speaker 10: tough fit and they didn't have the spacing. They missed
[53:06] Speaker 10: Towns and And if you fast forward to now, he's
[53:09] Speaker 10: 13 for 18 tonight.
[53:11] Speaker 1: He was just incredible the whole series. We couldn't stop him.
[53:16] Speaker 2: So in his last playoff appearance back in 2023 with
[53:19] Speaker 2: the Knicks, Randall averaged 17 points per game on 37% shooting.
[53:22] Speaker 2: Before that, he averaged 18 points on 30% shooting back
[53:26] Speaker 2: in the 2021 playoffs. This postseason, he's averaging 24 points
[53:30] Speaker 2: on 51% shooting. How do you explain Julius Randall's playoff
[53:34] Speaker 2: breakout this year?
[53:36] Speaker 3: Fresh start.
[53:38] Speaker 4: When you get to paint on a new canvas, you
[53:40] Speaker 4: get to start with whatever colors you want. And they
[53:43] Speaker 4: didn't like the blue and orange I was writing all
[53:45] Speaker 4: over the shit, so I got some darker blue, some green.
[53:49] Speaker 4: They like it. And I love it, so he's playing great.
[53:53] Speaker 4: Like I said before, when I picked the Knicks, I
[53:56] Speaker 4: wanted to see them with Julius Randle. And I wanted
[53:58] Speaker 4: to see what that looked like. Didn't get into. He's
[54:01] Speaker 4: with a guy like Ant Edwards, who actually gets to
[54:05] Speaker 4: show him a different type of explosiveness. And what Brunson
[54:08] Speaker 4: was showing him, got a rim protector in Gobert, some
[54:12] Speaker 4: other wing guards that can guard. I think he's in
[54:15] Speaker 4: a dreamland right now. And he gets to still be gritty.
[54:18] Speaker 4: So I think that's important for him. And it's a show.
[54:23] Speaker 4: Let me show y'all what I got moment. I like
[54:25] Speaker 4: that for him. I think even looking over the other side,
[54:28] Speaker 4: like we could potentially match up.
[54:30] Speaker 1: And we get, you know, I'm sure the NBA.
[54:31] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[54:32] Speaker 6: Yeah, and also, like, you know, the way he, you know,
[54:34] Speaker 6: the way he kind of left New York, you know,
[54:36] Speaker 6: they kind of moved on from him, you know, when
[54:37] Speaker 6: they were out, they were playing well. Just for him
[54:40] Speaker 6: not to lose, you know, you know, insight of, you know,
[54:44] Speaker 6: what's more important. You know, him going to a new
[54:46] Speaker 6: situation but still making the best out of it. I
[54:48] Speaker 6: think we were on here talking a little crap about
[54:50] Speaker 6: him earlier.
[54:51] Speaker 1: I think you guys were always very supportive of Julius Randle. Yeah,
[54:54] Speaker 1: a little bit.
[54:55] Speaker 3: And I think, like, he heard the message from us.
[54:57] Speaker 1: He does watch the show.
[54:58] Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think he heard the message, but No,
[55:00] Speaker 6: just going into a new situation, even with Cat, you know,
[55:03] Speaker 6: he's done well over there. But they're both winning to
[55:06] Speaker 6: me in this situation. I'm just happy that they kept
[55:08] Speaker 6: their head and they kept hooping through it all.
[55:10] Speaker 2: So we talked about a random situation with Knicks fans,
[55:12] Speaker 2: you know, ripping billboards down and various things going on
[55:15] Speaker 2: during this time there, despite making all NBA teams and
[55:18] Speaker 2: everything you did over there. Now you come to the Timberwolves.
[55:20] Speaker 2: A little shaky to start, let's just be honest, you know,
[55:22] Speaker 2: finishing sixth in the West. But I've turned it on.
[55:26] Speaker 2: Two straight gentlemen sweeps to reach the Western Conference Finals.
[55:29] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[55:30] Speaker 2: For the second straight year. You got to tip your
[55:32] Speaker 2: cap really to both teams because Nick's also in a position.
[55:34] Speaker 1: Now with Cat. Yeah, I don't think anybody's complaining. Both sides,
[55:38] Speaker 1: I feel like they won the trade. No, there's only
[55:40] Speaker 1: one winner. Who's the winner, Gil? Huh? There's only one winner.
[55:45] Speaker 4: We'll find out this summer who the winner is. I
[55:46] Speaker 4: feel like we'll find out in June, potentially. We'll find
[55:49] Speaker 4: out in the summer who the winner is. Because, you know,
[55:52] Speaker 4: if Randall leaves, Nick's won. Niggas go to the championship,
[55:58] Speaker 4: they feel they won. Like, if you ask both teams
[56:01] Speaker 4: right now, both teams is happy as shit. There's really, but,
[56:05] Speaker 4: you know, there's still a summer that's going to happen.
[56:08] Speaker 4: And if, let's say, they trade towns and then bring in.
[56:11] Speaker 1: Giannis, New York won.
[56:13] Speaker 3: Let's be real.
[56:14] Speaker 7: Right?
[56:14] Speaker 1: If Julius leaves, New York won. So, I mean, so,
[56:17] Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day.
[56:18] Speaker 3: Let's be realistic.
[56:19] Speaker 1: Hey.
[56:21] Speaker 4: Honestly, let's really be realistic. Niggas make it to the finals.
[56:24] Speaker 4: Wolves make it to the finals. Nobody's making no moves
[56:27] Speaker 4: next year.
[56:27] Speaker 1: Yes, they are. Not with Cat, not with none of them.
[56:30] Speaker 1: Everybody's going to keep it intact. They'll add. They'll add.
[56:32] Speaker 3: They'll add.
[56:34] Speaker 4: You're not going to allow Cat to come in here
[56:36] Speaker 4: and take us here and then get rid of them.
[56:38] Speaker 1: If Yanni wants to come, I'm not going to trade
[56:39] Speaker 1: for him. Yanni's got to go somewhere else. No, he don't. Yeah,
[56:42] Speaker 1: he ain't prove shit. No, he don't. He ain't prove what?
[56:44] Speaker 1: Not this year.
[56:45] Speaker 3: He ain't prove what?
[56:46] Speaker 1: Not this year. He's an MVP. First round exit. First
[56:50] Speaker 1: round exit.
[56:51] Speaker 4: First round exit three years in a row.
[56:54] Speaker 1: If the Knicks win this year, they can trade Cat
[56:56] Speaker 1: for Brownsville. I mean, I'm just, it depends on the
[57:00] Speaker 1: end of the year. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
[57:03] Speaker 4: The Knicks is doing that. No, the Knicks just shared
[57:07] Speaker 4: money with Brunson for him to stay. So they've building
[57:11] Speaker 4: a family over there. Yeah, they're building a family over there.
[57:14] Speaker 4: They're not building something where they can throw it here,
[57:17] Speaker 4: throw it here. New York is building a new culture
[57:20] Speaker 4: where it's going to be New York, bro.
[57:22] Speaker 3: Do you hear me?
[57:23] Speaker 1: You played in New York. You're supposed to know this shit.
[57:27] Speaker 3: You do know you got to come back better the
[57:28] Speaker 3: next year, right?
[57:28] Speaker 5: No, you know what they did is they, by Brunson
[57:32] Speaker 5: signing that deal, it opened up a max, super max player.
[57:38] Speaker 1: And keeping cats. Super Max. And keeping Kat. I don't
[57:42] Speaker 1: need to.
[57:42] Speaker 3: You're not keeping Kat for years.
[57:43] Speaker 1: Why not? Over Giannis. You're not doing that.
[57:45] Speaker 3: We don't need Giannis.
[57:47] Speaker 1: That's the point.
[57:49] Speaker 4: If we needed him, if we didn't have Kat, this
[57:51] Speaker 4: was last year, we didn't have Kat, I agree with you.
[57:53] Speaker 4: We got Kat. We got OG. We got Bridges. We
[57:55] Speaker 4: got all the pieces we need that we didn't have
[57:58] Speaker 4: last year.
[57:58] Speaker 6: So you think you're going to be able to come
[57:59] Speaker 6: back with the same team knowing that other teams are
[58:01] Speaker 6: making more?
[58:02] Speaker 1: And Giannis says he's standing in the East. We're going
[58:03] Speaker 1: to add. We just don't need a big superstar like Giannis.
[58:06] Speaker 1: And Giannis said he's standing in the East. So he's
[58:07] Speaker 1: going somewhere. Toronto. He's not Toronto. Toronto. No, he's not.
[58:13] Speaker 3: No, he's not.
[58:14] Speaker 5: Listen, Julius, what we were saying about him at the
[58:18] Speaker 5: beginning of the season, we was right. It's not like
[58:20] Speaker 5: he played very well this year.
[58:22] Speaker 1: He struggled.
[58:23] Speaker 4: He looked lost in the offense. He was six points
[58:26] Speaker 4: down from last year and the year before.
[58:31] Speaker 5: He was playing in New York like an all-NBA player,
[58:34] Speaker 5: an all-star, and he made him. This year he struggled.
[58:37] Speaker 5: It was different. It was a different game for him.
[58:41] Speaker 5: And then the playoffs, he found who he was again.
[58:46] Speaker 4: Because I think what ended up happening is, in.
[58:48] Speaker 5: New York, how they played fed him.
[58:52] Speaker 1: Brunson, you go. Give it to me.
[58:54] Speaker 5: I'm going to do my thing. In the playoffs, Ant-Man,
[58:58] Speaker 5: you do your thing. You don't got it. Now I
[59:00] Speaker 5: get to do my thing. So because the game slows
[59:02] Speaker 5: down and becomes more half-court, you actually need him. See,
[59:07] Speaker 5: with Catton, we throw to Catton. Catton can't beat nobody
[59:09] Speaker 5: off the dribble. That hurt the Wolves. They needed a
[59:12] Speaker 5: one-on-one guy.
[59:13] Speaker 4: It didn't help in the regular season, but that shit
[59:15] Speaker 4: is helping and paying off in the playoffs. I think
[59:19] Speaker 4: that Julius Randle's slow start had everything to do with
[59:23] Speaker 4: his injury prior to, and then having not to play
[59:28] Speaker 4: with the Knicks, not knowing where you're going to go,
[59:30] Speaker 4: Then he finally gets to a team that he has
[59:32] Speaker 4: to warm up to, fit back in with.
[59:35] Speaker 1: And listen, I haven't played. Still haven't played in almost
[59:39] Speaker 1: a year.
[59:40] Speaker 4: So for me to come back out here, have a
[59:43] Speaker 4: slow start, but then heat up like he's heating up
[59:45] Speaker 4: right now, I think this is right on time. I
[59:49] Speaker 4: think it's perfect timing for him. He's like, I got
[59:51] Speaker 4: it now. Figured it out. He gets some more boards.
[59:54] Speaker 4: I think he's back to his all NBA form. Because
[59:58] Speaker 4: he looks good right now. He looks confident. He looks
[1:00:00] Speaker 4: like I can control this when it ain't in Ant-Man's hand.
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: And I know how he controls it now. So I
[1:00:06] Speaker 4: got my spaces. He's figured it out.
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: I think he took that Lakers series personally and he
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: showed there. Like he was out for blood in that series.
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: But it's continued that. And obviously talk to his Warriors
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: being down Steph. But either way, you play who's out there.
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: And he's been playing at an extremely high level. So
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: we have two polls that we got to address before
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: we move on. First, going back to that Ant-Man discussion,
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: we asked the chat, will Ant-Man's history with the work
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: prevent him from being face of the NBA? 50-50 split. 50%
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: think it will, 50% think it won't. And then we asked,
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: who won the cat Randall trade? We've asked that often.
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: I feel like recency bias has something to do with
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: the voting. Are you going to say New York? No, 58%
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: say the Timberwolves at this moment. Because they are in
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: the conference finals on their side. Is 3-2, 3-2 on
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: both sides? I mean, no, it's 3-2 on this side.
[1:00:53] Speaker 3: That's tonight. Knicks up 3-2.
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: Here we.
[1:00:57] Speaker 4: Go.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: But we got to talk about the losers in the series,
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. Been unable to return to the
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: conference finals since winning it all back in 2022. Warriors
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: lost four straight playoff games for the first time in
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: the Steve Kerr era, but Steph was sidelined with the
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: hamstring strain, so we have to add that context. This
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: is also the first time in the Kerr era that
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: the Dubs have been eliminated in less than six games.
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: As it was obvious, they were missing Steph's gravity. And
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: Warriors fans, I get what you're saying now. I can't
[1:01:25] Speaker 2: even argue with y'all. It was a completely different brand
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: of basketball with Steph off the court.
[1:01:29] Speaker 1: But after getting.
[1:01:30] Speaker 2: Eliminated last night, Draymond Green spoke on his outlook for
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: the team next season.
[1:01:35] Speaker 8: I think we'll be right back at it.
[1:01:39] Speaker 11: Sucks to end this way, but we think we got
[1:01:42] Speaker 11: the pieces to make another run at it and do
[1:01:44] Speaker 11: it again. And that's going to be our mindset going
[1:01:48] Speaker 11: into the summer. You know, do all that you got
[1:01:52] Speaker 11: to do to improve. We got one of the best
[1:01:57] Speaker 11: ownership groups and front offices.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: In the NBA. You know, they'll.
[1:02:01] Speaker 11: Do whatever they feel is needed to help the team improve.
[1:02:04] Speaker 11: And us as players, you got to get back in
[1:02:06] Speaker 11: the lab and do what you got to do to
[1:02:08] Speaker 11: get better. But I think, you know, come next year,
[1:02:11] Speaker 11: we'll be right back at it and give ourselves a
[1:02:14] Speaker 11: chance again.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: So for those of you who may recall, during All-Star weekend,
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: Draymond was with the TNT crew, said that the Warriors
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: are going to win a championship this year. Obviously, Steph
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: and Draymond said that this was a championship-caliber roster. After
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: the Jimmy Butler trade, Steph goes down. Obviously, those championship
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: aspirations were no more. But next season, Draymond Green will
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: be turning 36. Jimmy Butler will be 36. Steph Curry
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: will be turning 38. That trio currently has around $ 140
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: million of the Warriors' salary cap committed to them next season.
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: Should the Warriors run it back or do they need
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: to get younger? Run it back with that same team?
[1:02:53] Speaker 4: Should the Warriors run it back, or does that team
[1:02:56] Speaker 4: need to get younger?
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: It's a question, Gil. Is it either or? That's why
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: we gave you options.
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: Listen, man, everybody can be on the block.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: I'm just saying that at this point. Go. I'm sorry,
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: but did you not see the games? I saw four
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: games without Steph Curry.
[1:03:09] Speaker 4: Okay, how did that game look? How did it look,
[1:03:13] Speaker 4: for real? Was not visually appealing. Did it look like
[1:03:16] Speaker 4: we are a championship team? If Steph goes down, who's
[1:03:21] Speaker 4: going to be 38?
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: We watched the basketball game. We were forced to in
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: some regards. You know what? How about this?
[1:03:29] Speaker 5: If that team right there had to enter the season
[1:03:33] Speaker 5: just like that, what do they rank?
[1:03:35] Speaker 1: Without Steph?
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, just like that.
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: Just like that. That team. The team, the mother... Jimmy.
[1:03:40] Speaker 4: Butler and the Miami Heat.
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: 13, 14.
[1:03:42] Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: The West Coast Heat. They looking at what? The first pick,
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: second pick of the NBA draft?
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: I'll say fourth. Yeah. Fourth pick.
[1:03:52] Speaker 5: So they're that bad without Steph, which means... you might
[1:03:59] Speaker 5: want to upgrade some of them pieces you got in
[1:04:01] Speaker 5: your stable because it's really not the like, you have
[1:04:06] Speaker 5: to be able to sustain some type of when my
[1:04:11] Speaker 5: star player goes out, right? When we're thinking about the
[1:04:13] Speaker 5: teams across the board, And you're talking about Cleveland. Cleveland,
[1:04:17] Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell goes down during the season. They're still winning games.
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
[1:04:22] Speaker 5: Tatum goes down right now. They're still winning games. Brown,
[1:04:26] Speaker 5: they're still winning games. You have to be able to
[1:04:29] Speaker 5: show you're still a good team.
[1:04:33] Speaker 1: Without your best player.
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:04:35] Speaker 1: They looked horrible.
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: So you're saying the words hot pack of boo-boo without
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: Steph Curry.
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: What? I don't even know if it was a hot pack.
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: That was cold pack. That was a cold pack. You
[1:04:45] Speaker 1: wouldn't even smell it was shit. Everybody can be on
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: the block. We got to break down why, though.
[1:04:49] Speaker 4: We break down why Steve Kerr set up a system
[1:04:52] Speaker 4: for Steph Curry where everybody has to do the Steph
[1:04:55] Speaker 4: Curry system. Then you don't got no Steph Curry. You
[1:04:57] Speaker 4: still running the system. That's why they look like a
[1:05:01] Speaker 4: hot bag of boo-boo.
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: We're cold.
[1:05:04] Speaker 4: Because Steve don't know what he doing when he don't
[1:05:06] Speaker 4: got a motherfucker doing.
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: It for him.
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: Hmm. Well, you had Kaminga on the bench.
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: Hmm.
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: But had Kaminga on the bench playing starter minutes all
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: throughout the rest of this series.
[1:05:16] Speaker 3: Still averaging more than everybody.
[1:05:18] Speaker 4: Matt Epizinski, he's turning down shots, right? But don't want
[1:05:23] Speaker 4: to put Kaminga in who want to take shots. But
[1:05:27] Speaker 4: that's a I don't like you thing. I don't like you.
[1:05:29] Speaker 4: I like him because he reminds me of me when
[1:05:32] Speaker 4: I was playing. He didn't get a chance just like me.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure he get a chance.
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: Well, I don't like you because you ain't take that money.
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: Like the Jackson kid.
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: Trace Jackson.
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, you like him. He didn't do nothing to nobody. Exactly.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: He didn't do nothing to nobody. But I got to
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: start him.
[1:05:54] Speaker 4: Why?
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: Why? Because you're mad at Kaminga. Yes.
[1:05:58] Speaker 5: So my ego is why we're... He's terrible, bro.
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: Like, I'm trying to figure out, like, why is he...
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: Kaminga not starting, but playing essentially starter minutes.
[1:06:08] Speaker 4: Why is he not starting? Doghouse, I'm going to show you.
[1:06:12] Speaker 4: I've been there.
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: I'm going to show you.
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: Well, according to a report from Logan Murdoch of The Ringer,
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: a good friend of mine, shout out Logan. But basically
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: said that Kaminga got benched because he wasn't passing the
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: ball to Steph and Kirk got salty about it.
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying about the system? He was
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: looking for his own shot too much. Oh, shit. In
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: the system.
[1:06:28] Speaker 3: He's trying to be a player.
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: The same thing he did to Buddy Hill? Yes. Same
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: exact thing, bro.
[1:06:33] Speaker 3: He did it.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: To Kaminga first, though. He wasn't passing to Steph.
[1:06:38] Speaker 4: They say he was looking him off in certain parts
[1:06:40] Speaker 4: of the offense.
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, looking for his shot too much and not giving
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: it to Steph.
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: And not looking for Steph.
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
[1:06:44] Speaker 4: So why wasn't he starting these four games? Steph wasn't there.
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: I need a nigga who's going to look off.
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: Hey, not this nigga. You can look off Pazinski.
[1:06:52] Speaker 5: And Draymond Green and Trey Jackson. You can look off
[1:06:55] Speaker 5: the whole motherfucking sideline at this point then.
[1:06:58] Speaker 3: Not you, though. Not you.
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: Steph is on the sideline. That means you should be
[1:07:02] Speaker 5: able to look off all these motherfuckers.
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: Do you?
[1:07:04] Speaker 4: Because we need that in this moment. So the fact
[1:07:08] Speaker 4: that I'm looking at this bench and I got a
[1:07:10] Speaker 4: shooter's offense with no shooters that can create their own thing.
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: Looking around. Looking around.
[1:07:18] Speaker 5: You don't have Steph, Klay, and KD. You don't even
[1:07:23] Speaker 5: have Steph, Klay, and Jordan Poole.
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: Man. He's not a shooter like that. You don't have Steph.
[1:07:33] Speaker 5: He's a pat the ball a little bit, get in
[1:07:35] Speaker 5: his rhythm type of shooter. He wants to play with
[1:07:38] Speaker 5: the ball. He's more like a Brunson style. He wants
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: to play with the ball to.
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: Get his shot. He's not a catch and shoot type
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: of player.
[1:07:46] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: So you don't have just.
[1:07:48] Speaker 5: Flat-out shooters like that. So you need some guy who
[1:07:51] Speaker 5: can attack. Other than that, you just have a whole
[1:07:52] Speaker 5: bunch of passers.
[1:07:54] Speaker 3: Because Jimmy Butler ain't it.
[1:07:58] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's... You got Kaminga over there hungry.
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: He's hungry.
[1:08:03] Speaker 4: And you're telling him, stay in the doghouse because I
[1:08:06] Speaker 4: don't like the way you eat your food. I don't
[1:08:10] Speaker 4: like the way you be eating the kibbles and bits, bro.
[1:08:14] Speaker 4: And we offered you better kibbles. And you said no
[1:08:17] Speaker 4: to them kibbles. Nah, I like this. The watered down shit.
[1:08:20] Speaker 4: Put the water in my shit. I'm cool.
[1:08:23] Speaker 5: We 11 for 39.
[1:08:25] Speaker 4: We don't have Steph. Why are we shooting that many threes?
[1:08:27] Speaker 4: Why are we in this offense still? Why are we
[1:08:29] Speaker 4: doing no slice cuts?
[1:08:31] Speaker 3: No, they should not run this team.
[1:08:33] Speaker 4: No, they're not running this team. Thank you very much
[1:08:36] Speaker 4: for having a question presented to you. Instead of questioning
[1:08:38] Speaker 4: the question, just answering the question.
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: No, we're not running it back. As it was presented.
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: So, Shot, even early on, before the Jimmy Butler trade,
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: you were very adamant for Jonathan Kaminga to get out
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: of that burning building, as you said. At age 22,
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: Kaminga is one of the quality young pieces on the
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: Golden State roster.
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: 22? Yeah. 22, bro.
[1:08:57] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:08:57] Speaker 1: 22. 22. 22. Same time.
[1:09:02] Speaker 2: So after battling injuries and inconsistency in playing time this season,
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: he rebounded to have some nice playoff numbers. Over eight games,
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: he averaged 15 points per game on 48-40-71 shooting splits.
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: In the four games without Steph Curry, those numbers jumped
[1:09:16] Speaker 2: to 24 points per game on 55-39-72 shooting splits. So
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: after the loss last night, Draymond spoke on Kaminga's pending
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: future with the team.
[1:09:27] Speaker 1: Obviously, J.K. 's got the contract situation.
[1:09:29] Speaker 11: You know, always wishing him the best with that. You know,
[1:09:36] Speaker 11: been in that situation, whether it's here or elsewhere, you know,
[1:09:40] Speaker 11: you just wish him the best.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Whether it's here or elsewhere... Just wish him the best.
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: So as we know, Kaminga, restricted free agent, meaning the
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors have the opportunity to match any contract
[1:09:52] Speaker 2: offer he signs this offseason. Multiple reports say that before
[1:09:56] Speaker 2: the season, Kaminga turned down an offer in the $ 30
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: million per year range, seeking an offer in the $ 35.
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: Million per year range. So about $ 20 million off.
[1:10:04] Speaker 3: Hey, young fella.
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say it. You's a smart motherfucker, man.
[1:10:16] Speaker 1: So you've now reversed course.
[1:10:17] Speaker 4: You are smart. You know, sometimes, you're Nico right now.
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: You need to go right now. You look real bad. Oh, man,
[1:10:31] Speaker 3: you was hot.
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: Oh, I know you was kicking yourself in the ass. Oh,
[1:10:36] Speaker 1: I know you couldn't sleep, motherfucker, this whole year.
[1:10:40] Speaker 5: But God damn it, these last two weeks, number one draft,
[1:10:45] Speaker 5: God damn it, you should be celebrating.
[1:10:47] Speaker 4: You was the best player for the Warriors in the playoffs.
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do.
[1:10:56] Speaker 5: You, sir, stepped up to a playoff atmosphere playing against
[1:11:05] Speaker 5: that team coming off the bench averaging 24.
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: Off the bench. Right now, you.
[1:11:13] Speaker 5: Can make the claim you probably was the second best
[1:11:15] Speaker 5: player in the series.
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: For sure, third. Ching-ching. Ching-ching. Ching-ching.
[1:11:23] Speaker 3: 175, 180.
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: I'm starting off at 200. Ching-ching. I'm starting off at 22.
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: He can start off saying I want the max.
[1:11:30] Speaker 3: Cha-ching. Remember, superstars jump.
[1:11:34] Speaker 4: Like, playoff series is sometimes what people get paid off of.
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: Yes. When you're talking about.
[1:11:40] Speaker 4: Jerome James.
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: Back in Seattle.
[1:11:44] Speaker 5: Fred, what you do in the playoffs, because the playoffs
[1:11:48] Speaker 5: means we scouting all of y'all, and the fact that
[1:11:51] Speaker 5: you ain't played all year, coming off the bench, we.
[1:11:53] Speaker 1: Put you in, you're averaging 24. Who is this dude?
[1:11:56] Speaker 5: And you are the most consistent player in our lineup
[1:11:59] Speaker 5: on this team without Steph.
[1:12:02] Speaker 1: Your future is bright.
[1:12:04] Speaker 5: There's no way that owner in Dunleavy is looking.
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: At like, yeah, we're going to trade him and run
[1:12:09] Speaker 1: it back with this group. You're losing this group within
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: the next.
[1:12:12] Speaker 4: 12 months, the next 24 months, and that guy right
[1:12:17] Speaker 4: there has proven at the biggest stage that he is
[1:12:22] Speaker 4: the cornerstone.
[1:12:24] Speaker 1: So, question for the couch.
[1:12:25] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: Okay. Go into it and say max. No negotiation.
[1:12:28] Speaker 7: Max.
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: Let's talk about what it looked like, though. The points
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: to 24 wasn't just... No, no, no. He's dunking that bitch.
[1:12:36] Speaker 6: Dunking that bitch, getting into the bag.
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: He's showing range.
[1:12:42] Speaker 3: He's out there like, let me get to my shit.
[1:12:45] Speaker 4: All while having anxiety. All while having over your shoulder.
[1:12:50] Speaker 4: I don't know what he on, but give me the ball.
[1:12:53] Speaker 4: I'm about to show him what I'm on. I'm going
[1:12:54] Speaker 4: to show him when I dunk this bitch.
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: Check me in. Question for the couch.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: Do you expect the Warriors to match any offer Kaminga
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: gets on the open market? Would it seem prudent that
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: they match that offer?
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Kaminga be like, well, I want to
[1:13:07] Speaker 1: dip anyway, so trade me.
[1:13:09] Speaker 6: Listen, the only two people I feel like it's safe
[1:13:10] Speaker 6: is Steph and Kaminga. Everybody else, I mean, let's see
[1:13:15] Speaker 6: what's out there for you. But this is not a
[1:13:17] Speaker 6: championship team, so.
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: So even playoff Jimmy. He should be on the map first.
[1:13:24] Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, your team, you said it, 36, 38.
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: Damn near 40.
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: So what do you expect to get if you try
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: to dangle playoff Jimmy out there or Draymond?
[1:13:35] Speaker 3: Draymond can go to the Lakers. Lakers can take.
[1:13:38] Speaker 4: Let them all talk to each other and figure out
[1:13:39] Speaker 4: what kind of mega team they want to assemble.
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: Like, I mean, you know, I got to think about
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: the age. It's not like if we were talking about.
[1:13:47] Speaker 4: Three years from then, you know, if Kamingo want to
[1:13:50] Speaker 4: leave and but.
[1:13:52] Speaker 5: If you treat Kaminga for a piece, hoping that you're
[1:13:54] Speaker 5: going to win a championship next year or the year,
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: because if you don't win it next year, the team
[1:13:59] Speaker 5: is old.
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about their age. That's when
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: we talk.
[1:14:02] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: You done maxed out what you can max out. So
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: you're saying there's no trade value in none of them?
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: Jimmy and Draymond? For future?
[1:14:10] Speaker 3: No. For some picks?
[1:14:14] Speaker 1: Jimmy?
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: No, no.
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: You can off Jimmy somewhere. With Draymond?
[1:14:18] Speaker 4: You're going to get off Jimmy and Draymond. You're going
[1:14:21] Speaker 4: to get something good. But you're going to get back
[1:14:23] Speaker 4: the same age. But if we get a pick with that,
[1:14:26] Speaker 4: my bad. No, but I'm saying do you think you're
[1:14:28] Speaker 4: getting something good in return? No, what I'm saying is, like,
[1:14:31] Speaker 4: you can, okay, Jimmy and Draymond, if I'm going to
[1:14:37] Speaker 4: package them, the only two teams that's looking at, like, yeah,
[1:14:42] Speaker 4: I could do something with them if OKC don't win
[1:14:45] Speaker 4: this year. Hmm.
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: Draymond is Jimmy for Giannis.
[1:14:49] Speaker 4: No.
[1:14:50] Speaker 5: No.
[1:14:50] Speaker 1: No. I don't want to get– if I'm going to
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: get rid of Giannis, I need to get younger. I
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: can't get older. What I'm doing, I'm getting rid of
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: a young guy for two old guys?
[1:15:01] Speaker 5: No.
[1:15:01] Speaker 4: So the only team that's young that's good now.
[1:15:04] Speaker 5: So Houston, I can do with some defense and a
[1:15:08] Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler on Houston.
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: Yes, I can do that. And add those young pieces
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: with Kaminga, all same age. But if you're Houston, you
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: don't do that. Why not? They're all guards. No, all
[1:15:20] Speaker 1: their fours that they don't really play. Jabari, okay, we'll
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: go with Jabari. You got Jabari Easton. They play in
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: 20-something minutes.
[1:15:24] Speaker 5: You're not using them. They're not a factor on your team.
[1:15:27] Speaker 5: And then you throw in Dylan Brooks or somebody.
[1:15:28] Speaker 4: But they both not franchise guys. Those aren't. Think about it.
[1:15:32] Speaker 4: Who would you rather have, Dylan Brooks or Draymond, on
[1:15:35] Speaker 4: that team?
[1:15:36] Speaker 1: With the Warriors right now? No, with Houston.
[1:15:38] Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks?
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: Or with Draymond Green? Yes. Draymond Green? Yes. Younger.
[1:15:43] Speaker 5: Younger.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: No, my team's already too young. But they're good. Like,
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: I just, if Jimmy... Dylan Brooks gives me everything I need.
[1:15:52] Speaker 5: No, he don't give you no protection from your guys
[1:15:55] Speaker 5: getting hit.
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: He gives me a jump shot.
[1:15:57] Speaker 3: He hits a jumper.
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: You're getting both. With who? Draymond. Draymond and Jimmy.
[1:16:06] Speaker 5: They'll do that deal because they're like a couple vets
[1:16:10] Speaker 5: away from being good. And then same thing, if OKC
[1:16:12] Speaker 5: don't win it and I can get rid of a
[1:16:14] Speaker 5: few young pieces and get that veteran, I'd probably do that.
[1:16:17] Speaker 3: I'm sending Jimmy back to Miami. He not going back.
[1:16:21] Speaker 3: I'm sending them back just because. Just fucking because.
[1:16:24] Speaker 1: Send them back.
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: Send them back over there.
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: Orlando Magic? Nah. Think about Orlando. Now you're talking. Send
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: that motherfucker back to Miami.
[1:16:32] Speaker 5: Now you're talking about teams where they can, like, I'm
[1:16:34] Speaker 5: looking at them like, my team is young and we
[1:16:36] Speaker 5: need to hurry up and try to, Orlando, you got
[1:16:39] Speaker 5: some pieces over there?
[1:16:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[1:16:41] Speaker 5: Cleveland might think about something. And then if you're... That's
[1:16:46] Speaker 5: not bad.
[1:16:46] Speaker 4: If you're... Looking at the two pieces, they're going to
[1:16:48] Speaker 4: want to go to contending teams.
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:16:51] Speaker 3: Jimmy and Draymond.
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: But those are contending. But they don't have that type
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: of leverage. You go to Cavs? No, no, no. They
[1:16:57] Speaker 1: don't have that type of value or leverage.
[1:16:58] Speaker 5: If I'm going to State, I'm looking at, all right,
[1:17:01] Speaker 5: Steph plays young. Steph, Kaminga, and then let me throw
[1:17:06] Speaker 5: in some more young boys and then let Steph have
[1:17:09] Speaker 5: his farewell tour. Then when he leaves, I have 23
[1:17:14] Speaker 5: to 24-year-olds.
[1:17:15] Speaker 4: Are we going to draft that situation or are you
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: trying to go find what somebody else done found and
[1:17:21] Speaker 4: try to get it over here? Everybody's loaded. The best
[1:17:25] Speaker 4: thing about the NBA is... We've done this already, though.
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: If we're the Warriors, we know this process of drafting
[1:17:30] Speaker 4: for potential. And we know the process of drafting for
[1:17:34] Speaker 4: who's ready to play now. So they already went to
[1:17:36] Speaker 4: the building process before. Are you going to restart that
[1:17:39] Speaker 4: now or are you just going to say, fuck it,
[1:17:41] Speaker 4: let's go find somebody else's project?
[1:17:43] Speaker 3: I think you start to rebuild now. I mean, I think.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: Kameka's going to be there. He was there, right?
[1:17:48] Speaker 3: I mean, I think the championship window is out.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: If I'm Golden State... Like, I think it's out. There's one...
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: I will. I do, too. I'm Golden State. There's one
[1:17:55] Speaker 1: player I might consider.
[1:17:57] Speaker 5: And I think you can probably trick this team out
[1:18:03] Speaker 5: of him.
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: Trae Young.
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: I was just thinking Atlanta.
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: And have Trae Young and Curry. What... You already... Because
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: you're playing Pazinski and.
[1:18:14] Speaker 5: Curry, I would rather have a real point.
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: Guard with a real point guard who can both be twos.
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: And he can score. And he can score.
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: He can pass.
[1:18:23] Speaker 5: That motherfucker going to look for Steph and let Steph
[1:18:25] Speaker 5: run around and beat a two instead of having somebody
[1:18:28] Speaker 5: who tries to manipulate them two right there with the
[1:18:31] Speaker 5: same firing pin.
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: You have a hell of a team.
[1:18:35] Speaker 3: The defense, though. Yeah.
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: What great defense position you have. You don't have no backup.
[1:18:40] Speaker 4: What position defense you have?
[1:18:42] Speaker 5: I'm talking about the replacement of him. If you can
[1:18:46] Speaker 5: package him with someone and bring in the tree, young,
[1:18:50] Speaker 5: you have a Steph 2.0 that's younger with Steph there.
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: That backcourt at.
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: Least averaged 50. That's his substitution.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. If I'm Warriors, I'm looking for Steph. Who is
[1:19:00] Speaker 1: that backcourt stopping defensive?
[1:19:02] Speaker 3: To be Trey Young.
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: Who are they stopping now? Defensive. Think about what I'm saying.
[1:19:05] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[1:19:06] Speaker 5: But you're acting like Pazinski is the defensive stopper. He's
[1:19:09] Speaker 5: a liability himself.
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: And they're fine. We're sure.
[1:19:13] Speaker 5: But you're acting like I'm taking away a great defensive player.
[1:19:16] Speaker 5: I'm putting in the same type of player, better offense.
[1:19:19] Speaker 11: Okay.
[1:19:20] Speaker 5: That plays the same style as Steph.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: Man. Now think about if he was there right now
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: instead of Steph. Crazy.
[1:19:31] Speaker 3: Is Jordan poolish?
[1:19:33] Speaker 2: So we got two polls. We asked the chat, should
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: the Warriors run it back or get younger? 78% said
[1:19:39] Speaker 2: the Warriors should get younger. Do not run it back.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: And then we asked the chat, will Kaminga be on
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: the Warriors next season? 78% said no. So let's talk
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: playoff Jimmy just a little bit. Jimmy Butler has 17 points,
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: 6 rebounds, and 6 assists in the Warriors game, 5
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: loss to the Wolves. So in the four games without
[1:19:56] Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Butler averaged 20 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists.
[1:20:00] Speaker 2: He did what? 20 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists. That's
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: what he actually averaged? In the four games without Steph Curry,
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: Butler averaged.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: 20 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists on 46, 33, 77
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: shooting splits.
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: All four games were losses, of course, as we know.
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: Steve Kirk said Butler was under the weather during game four.
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: This quote from Butler after game two raised some eyebrows
[1:20:22] Speaker 2: for those looking for playoff Jimmy to pop out with
[1:20:26] Speaker 2: Steph's sideline.
[1:20:27] Speaker 8: I don't have a burden or expectation. I don't.
[1:20:30] Speaker 12: I play basketball the right way. I will continue to
[1:20:33] Speaker 12: play basketball the right way. If that time comes where,
[1:20:38] Speaker 12: you know, your people that are saying whatever, supposed to
[1:20:43] Speaker 12: score 40 or 43, whatever the case.
[1:20:45] Speaker 8: May be, I'm capable of it. I can do it.
[1:20:48] Speaker 1: But I.
[1:20:50] Speaker 12: Love making sure that my guys are comfortable passing the
[1:20:53] Speaker 12: ball to them, taking the right shots at the right time.
[1:20:57] Speaker 8: But we'll talk about it. If that may be needed.
[1:21:01] Speaker 3: Who knows?
[1:21:03] Speaker 2: So, question for the couch. Did you expect more from
[1:21:06] Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler in Steph's absence?
[1:21:10] Speaker 3: Didn't he have the back injury?
[1:21:12] Speaker 6: No, that was in Houston, right? Yeah, I think he
[1:21:16] Speaker 6: was still playing with that. I think he said something
[1:21:18] Speaker 6: in the media about playing with it.
[1:21:21] Speaker 1: We're not doing that.
[1:21:22] Speaker 4: Nope.
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: He did say it, though. We're not doing that.
[1:21:24] Speaker 3: We're not doing it. But that's what he said.
[1:21:25] Speaker 1: But did he say that, though?
[1:21:26] Speaker 3: He said something about his back. But what we're not doing, though.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: We're not doing that. I'm just saying. He said his back.
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: He asked you a question. He said his back was hurting.
[1:21:35] Speaker 3: Did you expect better? Yeah, with Steph Curry there.
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: No, without Steph. No. So you expect.
[1:21:43] Speaker 3: No, I expected just what he did. 27-5.
[1:21:45] Speaker 1: You were pleased with the 20 points?
[1:21:49] Speaker 4: You thought they were going to win with him averaging 27-5?
[1:21:52] Speaker 1: No, no.
[1:21:54] Speaker 6: I just knew when Steph went down, the whole offense
[1:21:56] Speaker 6: was going to be different, and I knew they wasn't
[1:21:57] Speaker 6: going to be able to get off him.
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: But did they have another superstar that could take over?
[1:22:00] Speaker 3: On their team?
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: On the Warriors team. Did the Warriors have two superstars?
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: I don't feel like they had a superstar, but they
[1:22:07] Speaker 1: did have a 22-year-old. I mean, they had Jimmy as
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: a superstar. Jimmy as a superstar, right? What do superstars do?
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: When the time is needed.
[1:22:15] Speaker 4: What did he just sit up there with a smile
[1:22:16] Speaker 4: on his face and a motherfucking do-rag on the side, smiling?
[1:22:21] Speaker 4: The team needs me.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: We'll see.
[1:22:24] Speaker 1: But my back, I played dominoes. They didn't need him?
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: That's what he said. He said, well, we'll see.
[1:22:30] Speaker 5: My thing is this, and I hate when players do this,
[1:22:35] Speaker 5: and I hate when coaches tell players this.
[1:22:39] Speaker 1: Play the right way. What's that?
[1:22:41] Speaker 5: What the fuck does that actually mean? Play the right way.
[1:22:44] Speaker 3: What does that mean?
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: Like, I know the concept of it. Share the ball.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: Share the ball. With who?
[1:22:54] Speaker 5: With a whole bunch of players that's not capable of
[1:22:57] Speaker 5: actually putting the ball in the basket.
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: So you probably shouldn't share the ball with them.
[1:23:00] Speaker 5: The right way is turning that you are the best player.
[1:23:07] Speaker 5: And you think playing the right way is to turn
[1:23:10] Speaker 5: down this open shot, drive, and pass it to a non-threat.
[1:23:14] Speaker 3: Crazy.
[1:23:15] Speaker 5: That's going to, now what? Pass the ball back out.
[1:23:19] Speaker 5: Now you got to pop back out, get the ball
[1:23:21] Speaker 5: to do it. That's playing the right way.
[1:23:24] Speaker 1: Sometimes playing the right way is you.
[1:23:27] Speaker 5: Dominating the game. That is playing the right way. What
[1:23:35] Speaker 5: What Donovan Mitchell did game two, that.
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: Was playing the right way. He needed to do all
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: of that.
[1:23:43] Speaker 5: To try to put his team into that victory. What
[1:23:47] Speaker 5: Brunson's been doing is playing the right way. What Brown
[1:23:52] Speaker 5: did yesterday is playing the right way. What White did
[1:23:57] Speaker 5: yesterday was play the right way.
[1:24:01] Speaker 3: That is playing.
[1:24:02] Speaker 5: You have to dominate if you are capable of it.
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: If you are the shooters, shoot. If you're the blockers, block.
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: If you're the rebounder, fucking rebound. You're supposed to do
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: what you do at.
[1:24:19] Speaker 5: The best of your ability. It's playing the right way.
[1:24:24] Speaker 5: That is playing the right way. If I have Steph
[1:24:26] Speaker 5: Curry and I tell him play the right.
[1:24:29] Speaker 1: Way, Me, I'm expecting this motherfucker to shoot every open shot.
[1:24:32] Speaker 5: If he now wants to start getting 12 assists, that
[1:24:35] Speaker 5: is not playing the right way for Stephen Curry.
[1:24:38] Speaker 4: Period.
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: That is not considered playing the right way. If they win, though,
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: is that considered?
[1:24:45] Speaker 4: No. No.
[1:24:46] Speaker 5: It's not playing. Winning or losing a game is not considered.
[1:24:53] Speaker 5: Playing the right way. You're supposed to maximize your talent.
[1:24:57] Speaker 5: So playing the right way. You're holding back. It's playing
[1:25:02] Speaker 5: the wrong way.
[1:25:03] Speaker 2: So playing the right way is situational. Sometimes the situation
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: calls for you to play a certain way. Sometimes it
[1:25:07] Speaker 2: calls for you to play differently. There's not one correct
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: way to play the right way, right? Put it like this.
[1:25:13] Speaker 5: If I told you, if Giannis said, all right, I'm
[1:25:15] Speaker 5: going to go out there and try to get 17 assists.
[1:25:19] Speaker 1: Would that be considered playing the right way? Well, not
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: if there's 40 points. Is that what I'm saying?
[1:25:23] Speaker 5: If he took three shots and then he got 17 assists, are.
[1:25:26] Speaker 1: We going to be like, yeah, that was a good-ass
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: game by Giannis? Hell no. We're going to be like, yeah.
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: He was facilitating.
[1:25:31] Speaker 3: He wasn't aggressive.
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: We don't need you to do that.
[1:25:35] Speaker 4: So is it fair to say there's no such thing
[1:25:37] Speaker 4: as playoff, Jimmy, or what were we doing? Was it
[1:25:39] Speaker 4: just a Miami thing? Was it Miami heat? The sun
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: rays coming down. What was it? It had to be something.
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: You used to drink confidence coffee.
[1:25:46] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:25:46] Speaker 3: I said he.
[1:25:47] Speaker 4: Cannot come over here and take them all the way
[1:25:49] Speaker 4: to the promised land and just abandon them and do
[1:25:51] Speaker 4: what he did as like a teammate. The energy he
[1:25:54] Speaker 4: left behind. That's what I'm saying. So it felt like
[1:25:56] Speaker 4: this is all like what Miami was saying. This is
[1:26:01] Speaker 4: this is what he did to us, too.
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: He had better talent than Miami, though. But this is
[1:26:04] Speaker 1: what he did to us, too. He did this to us.
[1:26:06] Speaker 3: I'm saying, than what he had without Steph out there.
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: He had Bam. He had... You don't remember the finals?
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: The hit roster. But you don't remember the finals, though?
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying, who he had, though? Do
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: you remember when he just disappeared in the finals? Same way. Oh,
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: I just want to play for my guy.
[1:26:22] Speaker 4: My thing is, when you say, I want to play
[1:26:24] Speaker 4: basketball the right way, sometimes playing basketball the right way
[1:26:27] Speaker 4: is putting your guys in a position to fail.
[1:26:31] Speaker 1: You're putting the big man in the position to fail. Drive.
[1:26:34] Speaker 4: Give him the bounce pass so he can throw that
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: bitch out of bounds. You're driving and you're kicking the
[1:26:39] Speaker 4: Pajinsky who don't want to shoot it. He is pump
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: faking it. So you just wasted a whole dribble drive.
[1:26:45] Speaker 4: You got paint. You touch paint and you passed it.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: And you're doing it on purpose. Literally. You're literally doing.
[1:26:53] Speaker 4: It on purpose because I want to get my guys involved.
[1:26:55] Speaker 4: When your guys are like, Jimmy, take us home, bro.
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: What are you doing?
[1:27:00] Speaker 4: You're at 24-Hour Fitness trying to get the guys involved
[1:27:03] Speaker 4: so we all can go to Chipotle after.
[1:27:05] Speaker 1: A restaurant. Extra what?
[1:27:09] Speaker 4: It's like you're trying to outsmart the media.
[1:27:14] Speaker 5: They don't give a fuck. I'm sorry. You can't push
[1:27:20] Speaker 5: off accountability.
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: By saying, I'm playing team ball.
[1:27:24] Speaker 5: Right.
[1:27:26] Speaker 1: You can't do that here.
[1:27:27] Speaker 3: Weak, man.
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: Because I can tell you, in history, everyone who's tried
[1:27:35] Speaker 4: to say, hey, I'm turning down my shots and I'm
[1:27:37] Speaker 4: going to show y'all what my team really looks like
[1:27:41] Speaker 4: and we lose, they blame me any fucking, they blame
[1:27:44] Speaker 4: them anyway.
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: Do it your way.
[1:27:49] Speaker 5: If Because the only thing we do know is you
[1:27:54] Speaker 5: practice with those guys every fucking.
[1:27:57] Speaker 1: Day, right? You practice with them every day. You know the.
[1:28:01] Speaker 5: Ins and outs of them. You know everything about them.
[1:28:04] Speaker 5: And if I watch a game and you took 40 shots.
[1:28:09] Speaker 5: Who am I to say, pass it to your teammates?
[1:28:12] Speaker 5: Them motherfuckers didn't complain about you not passing to them.
[1:28:15] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: How am I, as an outsider, challenging the order?
[1:28:22] Speaker 3: That's a fucking great thing. I'm challenging the order that
[1:28:24] Speaker 3: was made in the locker room and in practice?
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody said so.
[1:28:28] Speaker 5: There's a reason you take 40 and they not challenging it?
[1:28:31] Speaker 3: That's fucking.
[1:28:32] Speaker 5: They are happy down the court, setting screens, getting the ball,
[1:28:36] Speaker 5: passing the ball.
[1:28:36] Speaker 1: They are happy.
[1:28:38] Speaker 4: Bro, that's real. that's real shit. Everybody got a problem
[1:28:42] Speaker 4: with it, though.
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: The media.
[1:28:45] Speaker 3: He too old to be saying that.
[1:28:46] Speaker 1: We watch Brunson do whatever the fuck he want out there.
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: There's not one person outside.
[1:28:51] Speaker 5: That should challenge the order that they've established in that
[1:28:57] Speaker 5: locker room.
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: Unless you feel like you can.
[1:28:59] Speaker 4: I don't even see Cat be like, go under him,
[1:29:01] Speaker 4: pass the ball.
[1:29:02] Speaker 5: That motherfucker set a screen, him doing his thing, he
[1:29:05] Speaker 5: get back, they hustle, they find him, set the screen,
[1:29:08] Speaker 5: he's sitting there, he fought it. Because he's done established that.
[1:29:13] Speaker 5: And I think sometimes we interfere with what's already been established.
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: Well, Gil, I hear you talking, Nick, so I feel
[1:29:22] Speaker 2: like that is a great segue into to the other
[1:29:24] Speaker 2: playoff game last night.
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: On to the Eastern Conference.
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: Celtics were dealing with the loss of Jason Tatum to
[1:29:30] Speaker 2: a torn Achilles in Game 4, while the Knicks were
[1:29:32] Speaker 2: one win away from reaching the first conference finals in
[1:29:35] Speaker 2: 25 years and had won five straight road playoff games
[1:29:38] Speaker 2: heading into this one. But in Game 5, Celtic pride
[1:29:41] Speaker 2: kicked in with white and brown working together in perfect
[1:29:44] Speaker 2: harmony in front of the Boston crowd.
[1:29:47] Speaker 1: Very rarely see that at Boston, so... Derek White was
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: red hot.
[1:29:50] Speaker 2: From the start, scoring 14 points in the first quarter
[1:29:53] Speaker 2: and making five of his first six shots, including four
[1:29:55] Speaker 2: of five from three. It was a tightly contested quarter,
[1:29:59] Speaker 2: including a play where Josh Hart took a foul from
[1:30:01] Speaker 2: Luke Cornett, ended up bleeding profusely from his face, leaking as.
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: The young kid said. He would eventually be okay, stayed
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: in the game.
[1:30:10] Speaker 3: That's like hitting the side of your foot on the corner.
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: The Stars led the way in the second quarter with
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown dropping 12 points on 5 for 7 shooting
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: and Jalen Brunson scoring 9 points on 4 for 7
[1:30:19] Speaker 2: shooting in the period. The game was tied at 59
[1:30:22] Speaker 2: at halftime. It should be noted that Kristaps Porzingis really
[1:30:25] Speaker 2: struggled in the first half, scoring 1 point in 12 minutes.
[1:30:28] Speaker 2: He was a minus 12 in the game. Joe Mazzulla
[1:30:30] Speaker 2: said afterwards that Porzingis couldn't breathe as he continues to
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: battle a viral illness Rozingas did not play in the
[1:30:36] Speaker 2: second half with the Celtics going to Luke Cornett instead.
[1:30:39] Speaker 2: That decision paid off big time with Cornett having a
[1:30:41] Speaker 2: great game. Cornett had 10 points on a perfect 5-for-5
[1:30:44] Speaker 2: from the field to go along with 9 rebounds and
[1:30:46] Speaker 2: 7 impactful blocks. 6 of those blocks came in the
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: second half. Another factor was the Celtics' aggressiveness in the
[1:30:52] Speaker 2: third quarter with them drawing 18 free throws in the
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: period compared to 8 for the Knicks. Jalen Brunson himself
[1:30:59] Speaker 2: was called for 5 fouls in the third quarter alone.
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: which led to him to foul out in the fourth.
[1:31:05] Speaker 2: The Celtics outscored the Knicks by 15 points in the
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: third quarter and never looked back. On the Knicks side,
[1:31:10] Speaker 2: Brunton had 22 points for the game before he fouled out.
[1:31:14] Speaker 2: The Big Bodega had 19 points in 29 minutes as
[1:31:16] Speaker 2: he battled foul trouble all game. Josh Hart led the
[1:31:19] Speaker 2: team in scoring with 24 points.
[1:31:21] Speaker 1: O.G.
[1:31:22] Speaker 2: Ananobi really struggled on this one, scoring six points on
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: one for 12. Shooting, Derek White stepped up big time
[1:31:28] Speaker 2: for the Celtics, leading all scorers with 34 points in
[1:31:32] Speaker 2: the game. His free throws were key as he got
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: to the line 11 times, the second most in his career,
[1:31:37] Speaker 2: regular season or playoffs. Jalen Brown ended the game with
[1:31:40] Speaker 2: 26 points, 12 assists, and eight rebounds. We see Jalen
[1:31:48] Speaker 2: Brunson fouling out right there. We will talk about that.
[1:31:51] Speaker 2: He was not pleased with it. Yeah, that dunk right there, girl,
[1:31:54] Speaker 2: we were watching on playback last night. Got you really excited.
[1:31:57] Speaker 5: The Celtics winning. All them NBA players who set picks,
[1:32:05] Speaker 5: can y'all just look at what White.
[1:32:07] Speaker 1: Did on the switch? Just easy backdoor, man.
[1:32:10] Speaker 3: Quick, easy.
[1:32:12] Speaker 1: So, simple basketball game.
[1:32:14] Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Celtics' new dynamic duo, obviously, with
[1:32:16] Speaker 2: Tatum being out for the remainder of this series and
[1:32:18] Speaker 2: for extended time with the ruptured Achilles. Like I said,
[1:32:21] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown ended the game 26 points, 12 assists, 8 rebounds.
[1:32:25] Speaker 2: Derek White let off scores of 34 points. After the game,
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown said, JT, this one's for you. So how
[1:32:31] Speaker 2: much credit do Derek White and Jalen Brown deserve for
[1:32:33] Speaker 2: helping keep the Celtics season alive?
[1:32:38] Speaker 5: Those boys came out and played. What's so funny is you,
[1:32:43] Speaker 5: we got to see them do stuff that they never
[1:32:48] Speaker 5: did or don't do. Even with Derek, getting to the
[1:32:55] Speaker 5: free throw line, his pull-up game, he reverted back to
[1:33:01] Speaker 5: to his college day, right?
[1:33:04] Speaker 4: And it shows how much these guys handicapped.
[1:33:06] Speaker 5: Themselves for the betterment of the team, right?
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: You know, usually when we see Brown, right, he's trying
[1:33:11] Speaker 1: to force everything, you know, inside.
[1:33:16] Speaker 5: Today, it was like everything was controlled, right? He didn't
[1:33:20] Speaker 5: look out of sync or he didn't look wild at all.
[1:33:25] Speaker 5: Pull-up game, seeing him pull up, just one-two, straight free-throw
[1:33:28] Speaker 5: line pull-up.
[1:33:29] Speaker 1: I mean, they... it kind of showed that the ball
[1:33:33] Speaker 1: moved a lot faster.
[1:33:36] Speaker 5: Because there was really no one-on-one style last night. It
[1:33:41] Speaker 5: was more, if I don't have it, let's go. Pass it,
[1:33:43] Speaker 5: swing it, backdoor. I'm taking my open shot. It wasn't
[1:33:46] Speaker 5: really like, okay, switch. Let me go ahead and do
[1:33:49] Speaker 5: my thing. And sometimes the teams do look better without
[1:33:56] Speaker 5: the main player sometimes because the main player has a
[1:33:59] Speaker 5: certain style.
[1:34:00] Speaker 4: And everybody has to sit and watch. Last night, they moved.
[1:34:06] Speaker 2: So we've talked about this Celtics roster, deepest roster in
[1:34:09] Speaker 2: the NBA. A bunch of guys on that team have
[1:34:12] Speaker 2: been the number one option before in their career. Guys
[1:34:14] Speaker 2: had to step up. Derek White leading the team in scoring,
[1:34:18] Speaker 2: setting the tone in the first quarter. Jalen Brown getting
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: buckets but also facilitating as well. Almost had a triple-double. Mr. B,
[1:34:25] Speaker 2: we watched that game on our playback watch party.
[1:34:28] Speaker 3: Last night.
[1:34:28] Speaker 2: Uh, how much credit did Derek White and Jalen Brown
[1:34:30] Speaker 2: deserve for helping the Knicks or helping the Celtics keep
[1:34:33] Speaker 2: the season alive with the win over the Knicks, especially
[1:34:35] Speaker 2: without Jason Tatum available?
[1:34:37] Speaker 6: Uh, I think the team just in general deserves a
[1:34:40] Speaker 6: lot of credit. Um, it's emotional win. Of course, you know,
[1:34:43] Speaker 6: you go down, you know, one of your best players
[1:34:45] Speaker 6: go down. Um, but Jalen, but Jalen Brown, you know,
[1:34:49] Speaker 6: he said it before he's a vocal leader. He's one
[1:34:50] Speaker 6: of the leaders on the team, just rallying his guys together. Um,
[1:34:55] Speaker 6: And like Gil said, yeah, it does look like the
[1:34:56] Speaker 6: ball was moving faster. They played more fearless. They played
[1:35:00] Speaker 6: more loose. I think because the offense goes through Jason
[1:35:03] Speaker 6: Tatum so much that a lot of guys do feel
[1:35:06] Speaker 6: like when they do get the ball, they got to
[1:35:07] Speaker 6: shoot it or they're not going to get it back.
[1:35:09] Speaker 6: But last night they just played a great team basketball win. And, yeah, man,
[1:35:14] Speaker 6: that's what the finals MVP is supposed to look like.
[1:35:17] Speaker 6: You know, when the game was on the line, he
[1:35:19] Speaker 6: came in there and really showed who he is.
[1:35:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: That is what the finals MVP is supposed to look like.
[1:35:24] Speaker 3: Yeah. And Derek White looking like the Olympian that he is.
[1:35:28] Speaker 1: Gold medal winner.
[1:35:29] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: God bless America. You know. Only in America. Let's move
[1:35:33] Speaker 1: to the side of the couch here with Terry Larry.
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: What do you think about white and brown holding it
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: down without Jason Tatum?
[1:35:41] Speaker 3: White and brown holding it down.
[1:35:44] Speaker 1: It's a bar.
[1:35:44] Speaker 5: I know.
[1:35:45] Speaker 1: It's white. So you drop the tantos. Drop the tantos
[1:35:49] Speaker 1: in the video. I've been also inspired by....
[1:35:53] Speaker 3: Jay Williams went to Duke.
[1:35:56] Speaker 1: He's a Duke alum. Yeah, he got on the TV.
[1:35:58] Speaker 4: He started talking crazy shit after Jason Tatum got injured.
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: Right? Wanted to call out Jalen Brown all of a sudden. Really?
[1:36:10] Speaker 4: Because the star's down and he's like, well, you got
[1:36:12] Speaker 4: paid all this money. Let's see what you're really made of.
[1:36:19] Speaker 4: Came out of nowhere. But then I showed up.
[1:36:24] Speaker 1: Showed out.
[1:36:25] Speaker 4: Like I said, it looked different when the star player
[1:36:27] Speaker 4: not out there.
[1:36:28] Speaker 1: It looks like a flow.
[1:36:30] Speaker 4: Like there is somebody out there directing, telling you where
[1:36:34] Speaker 4: to go, where to be, move the ball. We already
[1:36:38] Speaker 4: know what the Jalen Brown energy is because that's what
[1:36:41] Speaker 4: he holds. He can go out there and show up
[1:36:43] Speaker 4: at the end. But for Jay Williams to put that
[1:36:46] Speaker 4: kind of target on Jalen Brown's back, so if they
[1:36:49] Speaker 4: don't win last night, he basically gets the blame. because
[1:36:51] Speaker 4: he ain't being the Superman or Bat or Robin that
[1:36:55] Speaker 4: he's supposed to be when Jason Tatum goes down. But
[1:36:58] Speaker 4: I think Jalen Brown handled his own right there. And
[1:37:01] Speaker 4: they're still going to lose. Still going to fucking lose.
[1:37:06] Speaker 4: But the way to answer certain criticisms that's out there,
[1:37:09] Speaker 4: that's just like, I feel like it wasn't that it
[1:37:13] Speaker 4: was unfair, but it was like you put him on
[1:37:15] Speaker 4: the spot when your guy was the reason we're down.
[1:37:22] Speaker 1: 0-2.
[1:37:22] Speaker 4: We're down 0-2 early when he was healthy. So don't go,
[1:37:27] Speaker 4: because he hurt all of a sudden, it's on me.
[1:37:30] Speaker 3: I mean, they'll be putting Tatum on the spot. Because
[1:37:32] Speaker 3: he's the star.
[1:37:34] Speaker 6: Yeah, but, I mean, finals MVP, they're going to put.
[1:37:36] Speaker 3: You on the spot.
[1:37:36] Speaker 1: And what did I do? You know.
[1:37:38] Speaker 3: Showed up. Oh, no, for sure.
[1:37:39] Speaker 2: So, like I said, we were watching on playback. I
[1:37:41] Speaker 2: think getting one play in particular second quarter drew our attention.
[1:37:45] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown dove for a loose ball. We said that
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: was a winning basketball player. I think really was indicative of.
[1:37:51] Speaker 4: The fight that the Celtics brought into this game and
[1:37:53] Speaker 4: how much this game meant to him. Yeah, he knocked
[1:37:56] Speaker 4: the ball away and then did the iconic, was it
[1:38:02] Speaker 4: Dennis Rodman save out of bounds?
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: And went on, right? Hustled. Now that was the key.
[1:38:11] Speaker 4: The hit ball to save it, then get back in
[1:38:16] Speaker 4: the play to then go to the free throw line.
[1:38:19] Speaker 1: Those are the winning plays.
[1:38:22] Speaker 5: And I think sometimes we do get caught up in
[1:38:26] Speaker 5: who's better, right?
[1:38:28] Speaker 1: For, you know, our own purposes but.
[1:38:33] Speaker 5: They both do something very different they're bringing a different
[1:38:39] Speaker 5: skill set and that's and and unless you look at
[1:38:43] Speaker 5: them individually, you're sitting there just looking at points and
[1:38:46] Speaker 5: rebounds and, oh, you do this and you do that.
[1:38:49] Speaker 4: Your job is to score, rebound, and pass. My job
[1:38:52] Speaker 4: is to score, hustle, and defend. Between the both of us,
[1:38:58] Speaker 4: we got everything covered.
[1:39:00] Speaker 5: And I think that'd be the problem sometimes when we're
[1:39:02] Speaker 5: sitting there judging talent is we've all sacrificed.
[1:39:07] Speaker 1: Even with White, you usually don't even drive or get fouled.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: You just sit there and chuck three.
[1:39:12] Speaker 5: Yesterday you're shooting threes and getting to the foul because
[1:39:15] Speaker 5: you know it's needed.
[1:39:16] Speaker 3: Now yep i gotta be more aggressive i gotta be.
[1:39:18] Speaker 5: More aggressive trying to figure out how to manipulate the
[1:39:20] Speaker 5: game and get us in foul like so you know
[1:39:22] Speaker 5: just watching these guys bring in what they've been.
[1:39:27] Speaker 1: Holding in the vault yep that's it that's it holding
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: in the vault.
[1:39:32] Speaker 5: And say all right well you need me to step
[1:39:34] Speaker 5: okay let me go ahead and add this attribute richard I.
[1:39:37] Speaker 3: Mean, but they should, though.
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: You see it. Like, look at, man, I took all Boston.
[1:39:43] Speaker 1: But Pritchard coming up with the 17. Like we said,
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: Luke Cornett. But we knew he was going to. We
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: knew he was going to. We knew Pritchard was going to,
[1:39:50] Speaker 1: but Luke Cornett coming in seven blocks, I believe five
[1:39:52] Speaker 1: in the third quarter.
[1:39:53] Speaker 3: He's dope, though. He's been.
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: Got to cut this one.
[1:39:55] Speaker 3: Been that guy secretly.
[1:39:57] Speaker 1: Who? Cornett.
[1:39:59] Speaker 4: Oh.
[1:39:59] Speaker 1: Because they like the veteran in Al Horton. Mm-hmm. Al
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: is Al. And he can hit that shot. But Cornette
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: is not. He's Kevin McHale to me.
[1:40:07] Speaker 4: Like, he's all block, all doghouse, all get you here,
[1:40:11] Speaker 4: Nick Collison style.
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: Kind of remind me of Nick Collison.
[1:40:14] Speaker 4: He can just get you a double-double, solid, get in,
[1:40:16] Speaker 4: get out.
[1:40:18] Speaker 2: We know they're down Tatum, but also down Porzingis as well.
[1:40:21] Speaker 2: He's been dealing with this illness.
[1:40:22] Speaker 3: They still got talent.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: They still got talent. It's not like he been here.
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. But is he there, bro? I'm just saying.
[1:40:28] Speaker 3: They still got talent. They still got talent.
[1:40:30] Speaker 2: But that's just Tatum that they've missed. They got, you know,
[1:40:32] Speaker 2: two key starters. Out the mix.
[1:40:35] Speaker 3: No, they got two other Olympians. Yeah, exactly.
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: That started. All that other shit don't even... God bless America.
[1:40:42] Speaker 1: No excuses.
[1:40:42] Speaker 3: Y'all got plenty to do plenty. They got enough pieces
[1:40:45] Speaker 3: to do.
[1:40:46] Speaker 4: Cleveland just dropped the ball on all that shit they did.
[1:40:48] Speaker 4: Y'all can't do it.
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: They did. Disappointed by the Cavs. Disappointed.
[1:40:53] Speaker 4: Mm.
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: Mm-mm-mm. Police. White man. Deceitful.
[1:40:57] Speaker 3: Deceitful. Oh, my Lord.
[1:40:58] Speaker 1: Like, I was like, I'm going to tell you to
[1:41:00] Speaker 1: play that. I'm like, oh, shit. Who is this? When
[1:41:03] Speaker 1: he caught the reverse lob. Yes. He got bounced.
[1:41:07] Speaker 3: First of all, the pass was off the tank. He
[1:41:09] Speaker 3: got bounced, too. The pass was nice.
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: I mean, just being Caucasian, not in athletics. A couple
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: of them.
[1:41:18] Speaker 5: Like, you're just going to get it and just do
[1:41:20] Speaker 5: one of them. The fact that you caught.
[1:41:21] Speaker 1: It and then hit it with the old Robert Horry.
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: Seven blocks.
[1:41:25] Speaker 4: I don't think he can beat that shit.
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: Get that shit out of here.
[1:41:28] Speaker 4: He wanted him. Like, one of them white boys, you're like, nah,
[1:41:31] Speaker 4: I'm with him. And he rolling and dunking that bitch.
[1:41:33] Speaker 1: Is he a free agent? Because he smells like a Laker. Oh, man.
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: He smells like he looks better in purple and gold.
[1:41:41] Speaker 1: He smells like he looks better in purple and gold.
[1:41:43] Speaker 1: He is a free agent. Because he looks too pale.
[1:41:46] Speaker 3: He looks too pale.
[1:41:47] Speaker 1: Add a little tan to it. Oh, my God. Living Daddy.
[1:41:50] Speaker 3: He could be the Living Daddy.
[1:41:53] Speaker 1: We do have Lemon Daddy, boy. Yeah, Lemon Daddy. You
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: know what I mean? Lemon Daddy. There's room for more. Because,
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean? You just have him.
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: It was Luka and Luka. Luka, Luka, yeah.
[1:42:03] Speaker 1: Luka, Luka, then Austin Reeves. Put it in Beverly Hills. Man,
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: it gets you a Larry.
[1:42:08] Speaker 3: All you need is a Larry.
[1:42:10] Speaker 1: Call Larry.
[1:42:11] Speaker 3: Larry, and you good.
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: You got to start five. We need a big boy.
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: You can come over here and play 30 of them.
[1:42:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that play was crazy, though. I was looking
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: at him for sure. But this is a team that
[1:42:21] Speaker 1: won a championship. Again, you lose Tatum, obviously in team points, rebounds, assists, steals.
[1:42:26] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: Got to keep playing, right? You got to still. Next
[1:42:29] Speaker 1: man up. And made over 20 threes in the game.
[1:42:32] Speaker 2: I believe 41 and three this season when they've made
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: 20 or more threes in a game.
[1:42:35] Speaker 1: The threes looked better yesterday.
[1:42:36] Speaker 3: They made 20 more?
[1:42:37] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's because the ball was moving back.
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot of just early threes. It was
[1:42:44] Speaker 1: more like, all right, one more, one more.
[1:42:46] Speaker 3: It was more offense.
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: It's like New York had to play more team defense.
[1:42:52] Speaker 4: Did you see the pull-up that you liked on that elbow?
[1:42:55] Speaker 7: Yes.
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: That was a play.
[1:42:57] Speaker 4: And that's his play he likes that Tatum don't take
[1:43:00] Speaker 4: that shot because it's a slow jumper for him. So
[1:43:02] Speaker 4: if he's not open, open, wide open, Jalen Brown can
[1:43:06] Speaker 4: one-two that all night long.
[1:43:08] Speaker 3: That's what I said.
[1:43:08] Speaker 4: All right, too.
[1:43:09] Speaker 1: No left. No left. All right. All right now.
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: All right now.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: All right now.
[1:43:14] Speaker 2: But you talk about the Celtics this season without Tatum,
[1:43:18] Speaker 2: 8-2 in the regular season. I believe now 2-0 the postseason.
[1:43:22] Speaker 2: So 10-2 overall without Jason Tatum in action. This is
[1:43:25] Speaker 2: a team that, not to say that they want to
[1:43:27] Speaker 2: do it, but they can win.
[1:43:28] Speaker 5: I mean, they can, but that's cool. You know what
[1:43:32] Speaker 5: I mean? They're going back to the bodega.
[1:43:34] Speaker 1: The house of the bodega, man. I'll put this on once.
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: They said the racks is coming out. The Boston Celtics
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: come back and win? Oh, Jayden Brown's a hero. Yeah,
[1:43:46] Speaker 1: Jayden Taylor's got to go. Nah, I'm not doing that.
[1:43:51] Speaker 1: Then nobody got to go. That's two in a row.
[1:43:55] Speaker 1: That's cool. Mr. B, I see you looking at Jim.
[1:43:57] Speaker 1: That's two in a row.
[1:43:58] Speaker 3: That's two in a row.
[1:44:00] Speaker 5: Very intense.
[1:44:00] Speaker 1: That's two in a row, bro, with me at the helm.
[1:44:03] Speaker 6: But I don't think it's going to happen because they
[1:44:06] Speaker 6: about to fire Joe.
[1:44:07] Speaker 1: Not this Joe. Not this Joe. The other Joe got
[1:44:10] Speaker 1: to go. I know, coach. I know, coach.
[1:44:13] Speaker 4: We get it done. And we get it done efficiently.
[1:44:16] Speaker 4: If we come back, I ain't saying we win the championship.
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: I'm saying if we come back from this and we
[1:44:21] Speaker 4: win the series.
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: I'm going to get rid of Jason Tatum? You thinking
[1:44:26] Speaker 1: about it? Would I add him? We win a chip? No,
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: but he's an Achilles injury.
[1:44:31] Speaker 4: It's an Achilles injury. You got to look at the injury.
[1:44:34] Speaker 4: You got to look at the injury. If there's no injury,
[1:44:37] Speaker 4: I'm not saying this. I considered it last year, but
[1:44:40] Speaker 4: he's played at an exponential level this year. To wipe
[1:44:43] Speaker 4: that out. Like you said, it's better to keep these
[1:44:45] Speaker 4: two at this age.
[1:44:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. This is different.
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: Hey, listen. Achilles is different. And I'm going to be honest. No,
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: it's not the same.
[1:44:53] Speaker 3: It's different.
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: The comeback is different.
[1:44:55] Speaker 5: If Boston trades or puts him on the market, everyone
[1:45:00] Speaker 5: take him. Because I don't know if they've been paying
[1:45:05] Speaker 5: attention to the history. This is not his jumping leg.
[1:45:08] Speaker 4: So you treat him how you treat KD. Obviously, it
[1:45:12] Speaker 4: hasn't stopped KD from doing anything because just like KD,
[1:45:15] Speaker 4: it's his right leg. They jump off their left leg.
[1:45:19] Speaker 4: This stops you from jumping. I don't jump off the right.
[1:45:23] Speaker 4: Katie don't jump off the right. Tatum don't jump off
[1:45:25] Speaker 4: the right. They jump off the left.
[1:45:27] Speaker 1: So it doesn't actually do anything for them. It doesn't
[1:45:30] Speaker 1: stop them. John Wall, if you.
[1:45:32] Speaker 4: Look at John Wall when he came back, he's sitting
[1:45:35] Speaker 4: there dunking because he tore this one.
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: He jumps off this one. So it doesn't stop this jumping.
[1:45:41] Speaker 3: But it's still not the same.
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: That's not how the Achilles work. It stops you from
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: going up and down.
[1:45:46] Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, the step, everything, it's still not
[1:45:49] Speaker 3: going to look the same.
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: It stops you from going up and down.
[1:45:51] Speaker 5: So when he drives in a lane and he goes
[1:45:53] Speaker 5: to take off, it doesn't do anything. That's why when
[1:45:56] Speaker 5: people say, KD's going in, I said it's not going
[1:45:58] Speaker 5: to stop KD from doing nothing because it's not the
[1:46:01] Speaker 5: impact leg.
[1:46:01] Speaker 3: What did it stop you from doing, bro? It's my jumping.
[1:46:05] Speaker 3: What did it stop you from doing when you came back?
[1:46:08] Speaker 3: What were the things you couldn't do? Oh, just go
[1:46:10] Speaker 3: off first.
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: Because which way did you go?
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: Right.
[1:46:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. Just your explosiveness was not the same.
[1:46:17] Speaker 6: Yeah, my shot, I mean, everything, like jumping.
[1:46:19] Speaker 13: Because you use that for your power. That's not them.
[1:46:21] Speaker 13: That's why I never toe kicked him. I know, but
[1:46:23] Speaker 13: what about his jump shot when he's shooting? Like, he
[1:46:25] Speaker 13: got to use both legs. Like, I mean, because he's
[1:46:26] Speaker 13: going to put a lot. First of all, he's going
[1:46:28] Speaker 13: to have to get these both back going together. So
[1:46:30] Speaker 13: one is going to overlap.
[1:46:32] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:46:33] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:46:34] Speaker 5: Everyone who, if it's the off leg, not their dominant leg,
[1:46:38] Speaker 5: it never affected them. Usually, your Achilles usually happens on
[1:46:41] Speaker 5: your dominant jumping leg. And that's where it stops everybody
[1:46:46] Speaker 5: from getting off the ground.
[1:46:47] Speaker 3: Wasn't it Kobe's left leg?
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was his jumping leg. Yeah, it's his left leg.
[1:46:51] Speaker 11: Yeah, it was his left leg.
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: Cousins?
[1:46:56] Speaker 6: I don't know about trading them, but... It was Cousins'
[1:46:59] Speaker 6: left leg, too? They're definitely going to have to do something.
[1:47:01] Speaker 3: I'm not doing nothing.
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: Well, there was even talk before Tatum's injury that the
[1:47:04] Speaker 2: Celtics would be looking to make a move.
[1:47:07] Speaker 1: Making a move?
[1:47:07] Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, if I want to make a move, I
[1:47:08] Speaker 5: can make a move for Al Horford. I can make
[1:47:11] Speaker 5: a move for Drew Holiday. I can make a move
[1:47:13] Speaker 5: for Porzingis. I can make a move for them. White, Brown, Tatum, Pritchard.
[1:47:20] Speaker 1: Don't even call my phone. White, Brown, and Yellow.
[1:47:23] Speaker 3: You can put Joe in there. Joe can go. Hire
[1:47:25] Speaker 3: Sam Cassell.
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: Mr. B, you've been very adamant about Joe Mazzulla.
[1:47:30] Speaker 3: I'm sick of his shit.
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: A big fan of the town watching.
[1:47:34] Speaker 4: You stick a Joe, I'm going to stick a Steve.
[1:47:37] Speaker 4: Just gambling. Just gambling on threes, man. So we talked
[1:47:41] Speaker 4: about Jalen Brown.
[1:47:41] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown willing to do anything necessary to help himself
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: just get the win in this game. But let's take
[1:47:47] Speaker 2: a quick look back at a questionable moment in the
[1:47:49] Speaker 2: third quarter of the game involving Jalen Brown and Josh Hart.
[1:47:53] Speaker 2: So Jalen Brown and Josh Hart got into a shoving
[1:47:56] Speaker 2: match after Brown appeared to grab Hart's junk.
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: While fighting through a screen.
[1:48:02] Speaker 3: I just can't bear to chill.
[1:48:06] Speaker 1: There we see the junk grab it.
[1:48:08] Speaker 3: Watch out. Watch out, homie.
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: Also, a play earlier, Jalen Brunson may or may not
[1:48:13] Speaker 1: have got a nut shot on.
[1:48:15] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown as well. On that play where Josh Hart
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: was leaking. Gil, what exactly was going on during this play?
[1:48:26] Speaker 2: I got something in my.
[1:48:30] Speaker 4: Eye.
[1:48:30] Speaker 1: No, I don't know what was going on here, but
[1:48:32] Speaker 1: I can tell you this.
[1:48:33] Speaker 4: Whatever started, it had to start a couple plays before because–
[1:48:38] Speaker 4: When Jalen Brown was coming off the down screen, he
[1:48:42] Speaker 4: tried to run that motherfucker over before, so they must have.
[1:48:45] Speaker 1: Been going back and forth.
[1:48:46] Speaker 3: Oh, they were definitely going back and forth.
[1:48:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, they was going back and forth.
[1:48:49] Speaker 4: That's why they pushed at the end, because he's like, hey,
[1:48:51] Speaker 4: stop fucking playing, yo.
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: I like it, though.
[1:48:54] Speaker 2: We talk as hoopers, there's codes, there's unspoken rules and regulations.
[1:48:57] Speaker 2: Do you feel like Jalen Brown broke any code there
[1:49:00] Speaker 2: by going for it?
[1:49:01] Speaker 4: Nah, because Josh is one of them little dirty... Elbow
[1:49:04] Speaker 4: you in the stomach. But is the baby maker off limits?
[1:49:07] Speaker 6: Nah, because Jalen Brown got hit first in the nuts.
[1:49:09] Speaker 6: Don't grab my pee-pee.
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: By Jalen Brunson. Yeah, Brunson.
[1:49:15] Speaker 6: So he got hit by Brunson first in the nuts.
[1:49:18] Speaker 4: I got a girl who do that, man. I don't
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: need you trying to jack me off in the middle
[1:49:21] Speaker 4: of the game, bro.
[1:49:21] Speaker 3: That is some wild shit, though. That was the extreme
[1:49:23] Speaker 3: of where we were going.
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: Grabbing a nigga nuts during the game is crazy.
[1:49:26] Speaker 3: Yo, what you on, fam?
[1:49:29] Speaker 1: The funny part is, did you see how... Like, I
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: don't know if... Once Josh Hart pushed back, I don't
[1:49:36] Speaker 1: know if Brown took his spinach because he Popeye'd up.
[1:49:40] Speaker 3: He said, what's up?
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: You see the monkey gripping everything.
[1:49:46] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you seen it.
[1:49:47] Speaker 1: I seen it, too. I was like, God damn, bro.
[1:49:50] Speaker 1: He was ready. He was ready. You're going to have
[1:49:54] Speaker 1: to hit me. He's going to take them.
[1:49:55] Speaker 4: Run.
[1:49:56] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It looked like it was supposed
[1:49:59] Speaker 1: to be one of those. Run. Run.
[1:50:02] Speaker 5: You've been watching guerrilla shit. I know he probably, yeah,
[1:50:04] Speaker 5: just add me.
[1:50:05] Speaker 1: Just add me.
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[1:50:08] Speaker 1: All you need is just one of you. All you
[1:50:09] Speaker 1: need is me.
[1:50:10] Speaker 3: No, for sure.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: For sure, he on that. I know what to do.
[1:50:12] Speaker 1: For sure. I know what to do against his ass.
[1:50:14] Speaker 6: He breaking it down like 100 humans versus one girl.
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: For sure. Let me be number 59.
[1:50:20] Speaker 3: I'm just like, go back.
[1:50:22] Speaker 1: Watch him swell up like you can see. Go back, man.
[1:50:25] Speaker 1: Watch both his fists. Watch his fists, man. Watch.
[1:50:32] Speaker 3: Whoop, whoop.
[1:50:33] Speaker 1: No, no, right. Not yet. Not yet. Right here. Bam.
[1:50:37] Speaker 1: Right there. What's up?
[1:50:39] Speaker 3: Looking like Kevin Grace on the sideline.
[1:50:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:50:42] Speaker 3: What's happening? What's up?
[1:50:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, we in jail.
[1:50:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up? What's up?
[1:50:48] Speaker 1: Fresh meat on, fresh fish on the line. Ain't nothing
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: like it. And then he grabbed him in the ding-ding.
[1:50:53] Speaker 1: Phone book. I ain't no phone book. I am a boy.
[1:50:57] Speaker 1: What you doing, man? That man had that Kevin Gates
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: in him just.
[1:51:03] Speaker 3: He was on Demon Time all night.
[1:51:05] Speaker 1: Hey, you got to do what you got to do
[1:51:06] Speaker 1: to win. He was like, we not going home in
[1:51:08] Speaker 1: this garden. Hey, look, the game was that way.
[1:51:11] Speaker 4: LeBron on the bench, Kevin. Mm.
[1:51:19] Speaker 1: You want some peanuts? Mm-mm.
[1:51:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew you'd feel this.
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: I knew you'd feel this energy, motherfucker. Just, uh-huh, try
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: that shit on me. All right, well, let's talk about
[1:51:31] Speaker 1: these knickers. Uh, Jalen Brunson. The Knickerbockers. The knickers for short.
[1:51:36] Speaker 1: They should just roll with knickers. Okay. Hey, man, I
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, man.
[1:51:41] Speaker 5: Some of the names that was back in.
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: The day, man... foul. It ain't foul. Just foul. Just
[1:51:50] Speaker 1: coming up with just... Do you have an example, Gil?
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: You just said one.
[1:51:55] Speaker 3: The Knickerbockers.
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: The Knickerbockers. The Knickerbockers. Very essential in volleyball. Can you
[1:52:00] Speaker 1: name some of them black teams?
[1:52:05] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:52:06] Speaker 1: There was a Crackers one, right? There was the Cucamonga
[1:52:09] Speaker 1: Cracker Killers as well, if any of you would like to.
[1:52:11] Speaker 3: For sure.
[1:52:12] Speaker 1: And then there's someone, the Cornhorns. There's some... Now, still
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: out there.
[1:52:16] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:52:17] Speaker 1: What?
[1:52:17] Speaker 3: Corn what?
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: Corn huskers? No, it's in that area somewhere. There's something
[1:52:22] Speaker 1: that's around in that area. Cotton pickings?
[1:52:25] Speaker 2: So for all the Los Angelinos, y'all may recall that
[1:52:27] Speaker 2: Compton High School, their nickname was the Tar Babes, and
[1:52:29] Speaker 2: there was a big ass... Black Baby Eskimo as the
[1:52:32] Speaker 2: mascot in the gym.
[1:52:34] Speaker 3: That's insane.
[1:52:35] Speaker 1: It's been changed.
[1:52:35] Speaker 3: That's insane.
[1:52:36] Speaker 1: The Tar Babes. Tar Babes. The Tar Babes.
[1:52:40] Speaker 4: That's one thing you wouldn't be calling a Tar Baby.
[1:52:45] Speaker 1: Now imagine you walk into Compton High School into the gym.
[1:52:48] Speaker 3: Nobody graduated there.
[1:52:49] Speaker 4: That's what you say. We talked to DeMar about that
[1:52:51] Speaker 4: a while ago. It was the Tar Heels. They was
[1:52:52] Speaker 4: mentioning some shit. They were just getting... They were working
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: their way up.
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: We stepping on something over here. We stepping on some tar.
[1:52:59] Speaker 2: But let's talk about the Knicks real quick. Jalen Brunson,
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: five fouls in the third quarter alone. So didn't have
[1:53:06] Speaker 2: any fouls in the first half. Picked up five fouls
[1:53:08] Speaker 2: in the third quarter alone. Ended up fouling out a
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: midway through the fourth quarter. He was asked about getting
[1:53:13] Speaker 2: whistled for five fouls in one quarter after the game.
[1:53:16] Speaker 8: Five fouls in one quarter?
[1:53:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:53:16] Speaker 3: I don't.
[1:53:23] Speaker 8: Know if you want me to say that.
[1:53:26] Speaker 1: I mean, just how crazy was the quarter? I mean,
[1:53:29] Speaker 1: I guess.
[1:53:29] Speaker 8: I'm not even going to say anything.
[1:53:33] Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
[1:53:34] Speaker 1: Okay. Save your bread.
[1:53:37] Speaker 2: So, do we have any issue with the five fouls
[1:53:39] Speaker 2: on Brunson in the third quarter? I know the Knicks
[1:53:43] Speaker 2: fans among us were not happy about it. This is
[1:53:45] Speaker 2: why we're talking about it on the show right now.
[1:53:47] Speaker 3: No, I thought the game was officiated perfect. Great. You know,
[1:53:53] Speaker 3: I mean. Sit your ass down.
[1:53:55] Speaker 4: A perfectly appreciated guy. You're fouling out here. So, you know,
[1:53:59] Speaker 4: got to cut that water off.
[1:54:01] Speaker 2: There are some SMDs in the rundown right now. I
[1:54:04] Speaker 2: don't know who they're directed at, Mr. B.
[1:54:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to cut that water off.
[1:54:07] Speaker 2: We do have the tape so we can see the
[1:54:10] Speaker 2: five fouls that were called on Jalen Brunson.
[1:54:11] Speaker 1: Oh, so we got it out. Who called all the fouls?
[1:54:17] Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure Tony Brothers did three of the five.
[1:54:21] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
[1:54:22] Speaker 1: Judge, jury, execution.
[1:54:24] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at those 5,000 jailbreakers if we can.
[1:54:26] Speaker 2: So right now you can see he has zero fouls.
[1:54:29] Speaker 1: That's a foul. This was foul number one. Yeah, and one.
[1:54:32] Speaker 1: The first one was, look, get your hand off. Foul. No,
[1:54:34] Speaker 1: that's not a foul. It is. Foul number one. He
[1:54:38] Speaker 1: didn't do nothing right there. Tony Brothers right there. Tony.
[1:54:41] Speaker 5: Wait.
[1:54:41] Speaker 1: Tony, Tony, Tony has done it again. A foul right there. Oh,
[1:54:47] Speaker 1: that's offensive. Okay.
[1:54:49] Speaker 4: Wait.
[1:54:50] Speaker 1: Who called that one? Foul. Another foul on Jalen Brunson. Yep.
[1:54:54] Speaker 1: Number four.
[1:54:55] Speaker 3: That's a foul right there.
[1:54:56] Speaker 1: That's a foul. That's a foul. Okay.
[1:54:57] Speaker 3: That's two maybe so far.
[1:55:01] Speaker 1: Foul.
[1:55:03] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[1:55:06] Speaker 1: Yep.
[1:55:06] Speaker 5: Foul.
[1:55:06] Speaker 1: Foul. Three. Wait, who called that one though? Bottom ref.
[1:55:11] Speaker 1: Bottom ref called it?
[1:55:11] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:55:13] Speaker 1: Okay. Brunson, five fouls. So, hold on. That was his fifth?
[1:55:18] Speaker 1: Five fouls in the third quarter. So why didn't he
[1:55:20] Speaker 1: take him out after? Because they had five. He had
[1:55:24] Speaker 1: five in the third. Why didn't he take him out
[1:55:26] Speaker 1: after three? Well, as you know, Tibbs.
[1:55:29] Speaker 3: I mean.
[1:55:30] Speaker 1: We got a whole nother quarter. Tibbs.
[1:55:33] Speaker 3: We got a whole fourth quarter.
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: LeQuinn Dickey. LeQuinn Dickey.
[1:55:36] Speaker 3: You know what the bad part is?
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: They called an offensive.
[1:55:39] Speaker 4: Foul on White and then reversed it to give him
[1:55:43] Speaker 4: the foul.
[1:55:43] Speaker 1: Right. And made it a blocking foul. Yeah.
[1:55:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, that one I don't know about.
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: I have them three.
[1:55:55] Speaker 5: I mean, the way the game is being played, as
[1:55:59] Speaker 5: many times as there, he bumps and you don't give
[1:56:02] Speaker 5: the same ground. So, you know what I mean? But
[1:56:06] Speaker 5: that's anything. That's where the game can be controlled through foul.
[1:56:10] Speaker 4: Well, if they're going to call it tough, call it tough, right?
[1:56:14] Speaker 4: So that one foul on Jalen Brown, you got to
[1:56:18] Speaker 4: let that go. Because they're in the middle of the lane,
[1:56:21] Speaker 4: fighting through contact. Let that go. You let a lot
[1:56:24] Speaker 4: of the worst shit go. So for Jalen Brunson, it's like,
[1:56:28] Speaker 4: come on, bro. You're giving me tic-tac-files in the playoffs
[1:56:31] Speaker 4: in an elimination game. Yeah, because the game was won
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: in the third quarter. They did not even need the extender.
[1:56:37] Speaker 4: And that's when they come back. No, but that's what
[1:56:39] Speaker 4: I'm saying. The game was like, he gets five fouls.
[1:56:42] Speaker 4: That's where the game was taken over. The game, Boston
[1:56:44] Speaker 4: took over the game in that quarter. And then he's
[1:56:47] Speaker 4: trying to figure out what's going on.
[1:56:50] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, is it obvious as you like to ask? Oh,
[1:56:54] Speaker 1: hell yeah. Five and one. Five and one is crazy.
[1:56:59] Speaker 3: I've never seen the best player foul that much in
[1:57:01] Speaker 3: one quarter.
[1:57:01] Speaker 1: And then foul out? And then lose the game?
[1:57:04] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You shouldn't make it that obvious at all.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: As an NBA, don't do that.
[1:57:09] Speaker 3: If that was Draymond, okay.
[1:57:10] Speaker 1: Bro, people was betting on the games and shit. You
[1:57:13] Speaker 1: can't do that and people let you. You know who
[1:57:16] Speaker 1: be playing dumbass basketball?
[1:57:19] Speaker 3: Bigfoot.
[1:57:21] Speaker 1: Bigfoot be out. Carl Anthony. He just be out there doing.
[1:57:29] Speaker 3: No structure.
[1:57:30] Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, wait, hold on.
[1:57:32] Speaker 5: You are an all-star. You're an all-NBA player, and this
[1:57:36] Speaker 5: is the shit you be doing? Like, he got two fouls.
[1:57:40] Speaker 5: He don't be thinking, man.
[1:57:42] Speaker 1: He just don't be thinking, bro. Random foul.
[1:57:46] Speaker 3: Push.
[1:57:46] Speaker 1: For no reason.
[1:57:48] Speaker 4: What?
[1:57:48] Speaker 1: And looks at the ref like, what did I do?
[1:57:50] Speaker 1: The next one is, he got blocked. Don't know how
[1:57:53] Speaker 1: he got blocked by Derek White.
[1:57:55] Speaker 4: And then after he gets blocked, he gets frustrated, choke
[1:57:57] Speaker 4: the nigga.
[1:57:58] Speaker 1: It's just, oh, my God. Like, what is the... Maybe
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: he'd be, like, fatigued.
[1:58:02] Speaker 5: How you get blocked turning into a choke?
[1:58:05] Speaker 3: Maybe it's fatigue, though. I don't know what it is.
[1:58:08] Speaker 6: I think a lot of that shit would be fatigue
[1:58:10] Speaker 6: he'd be having because he'd be tired.
[1:58:11] Speaker 3: He'd be huffing and puffing a lot. When you're tired,
[1:58:13] Speaker 3: you just do shit.
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He'd just be doing anything.
[1:58:16] Speaker 3: He'd just do random shit.
[1:58:17] Speaker 1: Let me see.
[1:58:17] Speaker 5: If you're on defense, right, and you're guarding me right here,
[1:58:21] Speaker 5: and I back up and load up, what's your first move?
[1:58:24] Speaker 1: If I'm on defense? Yeah. To get lower and lock
[1:58:26] Speaker 1: your shit up. You're going to back up a little bit, right,
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: to get this. But not enough to give you the
[1:58:30] Speaker 1: ability to blow past me. Yes. See? What do you
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: think he did with Jayden Brown? Jayden Brown loaded up,
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: and I'm going to back up a little bit, right? Because, nope.
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: He think he can just put the big shoe out there.
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: Let me go out there.
[1:58:43] Speaker 3: That shit is a team.
[1:58:45] Speaker 5: Man, fire. Get your stupid ass out of the game.
[1:58:48] Speaker 3: We're waiting to fire. Man, come on, man. And that's
[1:58:52] Speaker 3: why New York would make that trade.
[1:58:55] Speaker 1: No, man. It's just be still. You just be looking like.
[1:58:58] Speaker 3: Don't do that.
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: Like your post-up moves, man.
[1:59:02] Speaker 3: You be having.
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry. You be having... Drew Holiday is guarding you.
[1:59:07] Speaker 1: We're not bashing the Knicks.
[1:59:10] Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I want him to hear me.
[1:59:13] Speaker 1: He is fine.
[1:59:15] Speaker 4: Drew Holiday is guarding you.
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: It's all good, man.
[1:59:19] Speaker 3: Just do this.
[1:59:20] Speaker 4: If Drew's guarding you, nobody's guarding Brunson.
[1:59:24] Speaker 1: We good.
[1:59:25] Speaker 5: When Drew guards you, when Drew guards you next time,
[1:59:29] Speaker 5: I want you to just use your big toes.
[1:59:31] Speaker 1: Just walk on down to the lane. Put that one
[1:59:34] Speaker 1: monkey arm up and say, throw it at this. The
[1:59:37] Speaker 1: one monkey. As soon as you get it, jump from
[1:59:39] Speaker 1: here up.
[1:59:41] Speaker 5: Don't bring it down. Don't sit here and wrestle with
[1:59:44] Speaker 5: the mother. He can't jump like that.
[1:59:46] Speaker 1: Neither do you. But you got a seven foot wingspan.
[1:59:51] Speaker 3: Put it up in the air.
[1:59:52] Speaker 1: Throw it all the way up here and just do that.
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: Just do that. Don't bring it down.
[1:59:58] Speaker 5: Don't try to power up because when you power up,
[2:00:00] Speaker 5: you ain't going to dunk the ball anyway.
[2:00:01] Speaker 1: That's not big, man.
[2:00:02] Speaker 6: But what you want to do is stand up.
[2:00:05] Speaker 1: This is what he want to do.
[2:00:07] Speaker 3: That sound easy?
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: He want to sit here and wrestle. He want to
[2:00:09] Speaker 1: get low and wrestle. Give me the ball right here, man.
[2:00:14] Speaker 1: Give me the ball right here. Just throw the ball up.
[2:00:17] Speaker 1: You holiday doing it? Yes. So he wants to sit.
[2:00:19] Speaker 1: Now I got to get low to fight with you.
[2:00:23] Speaker 1: Big man.
[2:00:23] Speaker 3: Some big man just don't.
[2:00:25] Speaker 1: They just don't think, like, if I wrestle, don't wrestle back.
[2:00:29] Speaker 1: Just stay low.
[2:00:30] Speaker 3: But he at the free throw line.
[2:00:31] Speaker 1: That's why he doing all that wrestling. He got to
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: get to the block. He can't even get to the block.
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: I see. Man, I be watching. You got Drew Holliday.
[2:00:38] Speaker 1: You at the three-point line. I be sitting here.
[2:00:39] Speaker 4: Like, I'm sure you were taught how to get position
[2:00:43] Speaker 4: in the post as a big man.
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: Solid post game.
[2:00:45] Speaker 3: Solid.
[2:00:46] Speaker 1: I didn't get to utilize it as much as I
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: would have liked.
[2:00:47] Speaker 3: Post position.
[2:00:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Essential thing for post, man. Get low.
[2:00:51] Speaker 1: When you say, throw it to the hand, you're going
[2:00:53] Speaker 1: to say, throw it to the hand. Right?
[2:00:54] Speaker 4: Right. First rule of big man, because I was down
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: there training when I was 6'3 for a long time.
[2:01:00] Speaker 4: Since 7th grade. I've seen the highlights from big man.
[2:01:02] Speaker 4: So I had to play big. And to teach you,
[2:01:04] Speaker 4: don't bring the ball down when you catch it.
[2:01:07] Speaker 1: First rule. They throw it to you. Don't bring it down.
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: Take it right back up. Take it right back up.
[2:01:10] Speaker 4: You're already bigger than everybody. So I don't understand that thing.
[2:01:14] Speaker 4: And then he don't get position. He don't go in
[2:01:17] Speaker 4: down there and just really like seal and ask for
[2:01:20] Speaker 4: the ball and go up.
[2:01:22] Speaker 1: You get them fouls. And you got him on you.
[2:01:25] Speaker 1: You got a little on you, boy.
[2:01:26] Speaker 4: If you don't throw me this bitch down here every
[2:01:28] Speaker 4: single time, I'm running down the floor to get position
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: because I know I got a mismatch.
[2:01:33] Speaker 1: I'm not going out here. I'm not going out there. Man,
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: give me the ball right here. He got to foul
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: me every time down. I'm going to have to switch.
[2:01:40] Speaker 5: Because for you to win it, you want him to
[2:01:45] Speaker 5: go back to normal, right? You don't want Jalen Brown
[2:01:50] Speaker 5: on Brunson. You want holiday on Brunson.
[2:01:53] Speaker 1: Brunson wants the holiday on him.
[2:01:56] Speaker 5: So the only way to get them to switch back
[2:01:58] Speaker 5: is three quick, easy lays right here.
[2:02:02] Speaker 1: They're going to be like, Brown, you go there, you
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: go back. Facts.
[2:02:04] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[2:02:05] Speaker 4: Facts.
[2:02:05] Speaker 5: So the fact that they can play a whole fucking game.
[2:02:07] Speaker 3: And don't do that. That's crazy.
[2:02:10] Speaker 1: But he's never been like that. That's not the type
[2:02:12] Speaker 1: of player he is. Cat is a.
[2:02:13] Speaker 3: No, that's coaching, bro.
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: And if you don't get. Your coach tells you to
[2:02:16] Speaker 1: go down there. What's your motherfucker?
[2:02:17] Speaker 3: Was he doing that up in Minnesota?
[2:02:19] Speaker 1: He was playing down there. He had to.
[2:02:22] Speaker 4: Remember, their problem was he was in the post and
[2:02:24] Speaker 4: Rudy was in the dunker and they didn't have space.
[2:02:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have space.
[2:02:27] Speaker 3: That was the problem.
[2:02:27] Speaker 4: So that's when I said when he got here, he
[2:02:29] Speaker 4: got space and he started out doing it. But then
[2:02:32] Speaker 4: they started pushing him off the block. Oh, and he do.
[2:02:35] Speaker 5: Have another problem too. And I thought it was just
[2:02:38] Speaker 5: a couple plays. But he trains like a girl basketball player.
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: What you mean? Nothing wrong with doing that. His footwork
[2:02:52] Speaker 1: is girl basketball. How does a girl work? You know
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay. I'm sorry. If you ever watch.
[2:03:00] Speaker 3: Shout out to all the women out there.
[2:03:02] Speaker 1: If you ever watch women's girl basketball, what do they
[2:03:04] Speaker 1: do wrong on their pivot?
[2:03:06] Speaker 3: On which one?
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: Just if they catch the ball.
[2:03:10] Speaker 3: They don't jump.
[2:03:11] Speaker 5: They catch the ball for some reason. Their pivot is
[2:03:15] Speaker 5: their right leg.
[2:03:16] Speaker 4: Yep.
[2:03:17] Speaker 5: And they have this, they have the left leg as their,
[2:03:22] Speaker 5: instead of this. They're establishing the wrong pivot. They establish
[2:03:25] Speaker 5: the wrong pivot foot, right? Because this is our strong
[2:03:28] Speaker 5: leg when we bounce. So if I want to take off, boom,
[2:03:31] Speaker 5: I got the explosion. You don't have explosion as a
[2:03:35] Speaker 5: righty coming off this leg like this. So when he
[2:03:38] Speaker 5: do want to dribble, his first step would never be fast.
[2:03:43] Speaker 5: Like I thought it was just okay, he maybe caught
[2:03:45] Speaker 5: it wrong and opposite. Because I'd be telling my, yo, yo,
[2:03:49] Speaker 5: get off your strong foot. So if you're going to
[2:03:51] Speaker 5: take off, you get to actually go. And he'd be
[2:03:53] Speaker 5: sitting here doing this, and I'm sitting here.
[2:03:55] Speaker 1: Like, whoo-hoo, we're talking about how to play basketball.
[2:03:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's not knowledgeable about establishing pivot foot. But
[2:04:02] Speaker 4: it's being ambidextrous, too. Because if you can establish both
[2:04:05] Speaker 4: pivot foot, and you can move off the lefty, because
[2:04:08] Speaker 4: I used to dunk off my right, so I know
[2:04:10] Speaker 4: all about that. But I do know sometimes you get
[2:04:13] Speaker 4: caught catching the ball off the wrong pivot. But if
[2:04:15] Speaker 4: you're good, you know how to move off that. But
[2:04:17] Speaker 4: like you said, it makes him slower. But I thought, okay,
[2:04:20] Speaker 4: maybe he just caught off the wrong one.
[2:04:23] Speaker 5: And no, it's every single time. And I'm sitting here like, bro,
[2:04:27] Speaker 5: you have to shoot a jumper.
[2:04:29] Speaker 1: You have no power on your drive.
[2:04:31] Speaker 4: And it's not like you're doing the old Joe Johnson.
[2:04:35] Speaker 4: If I do catch off wrong pivot, I play this– inside.
[2:04:39] Speaker 1: Type of game, right? He's bouncing in. He likes to
[2:04:43] Speaker 1: shoot with his left foot forward, though. Yes. That's what
[2:04:47] Speaker 1: I'm saying.
[2:04:47] Speaker 4: He likes to step into that motherfucker where he got
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: that pivot. He can step back with that pivot. See,
[2:04:54] Speaker 4: it's his left pivot here. So usually, if you're a
[2:04:57] Speaker 4: right-handed player, you got to bring this foot all the
[2:05:00] Speaker 4: way back. So now he's shooting with this foot forward.
[2:05:04] Speaker 4: So it's a cleaner shot because you.
[2:05:05] Speaker 1: Think about his shot, he shoots from way back and
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: he's flat-footed.
[2:05:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:05:08] Speaker 1: So he can shoot from just right here. But he
[2:05:11] Speaker 1: can't drive. But that's why I said you're forced to
[2:05:14] Speaker 1: shoot a jumper. Facts. So this series heads to Madison
[2:05:17] Speaker 1: Square Garden for game six.
[2:05:19] Speaker 3: This game is next.
[2:05:20] Speaker 2: Knicks have not clinched a playoff series at home since
[2:05:22] Speaker 2: 1999 and have not advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: since the year our Lord 2000. The fans have been
[2:05:29] Speaker 2: waiting for this for a quarter century, so they're going
[2:05:31] Speaker 2: to be going crazy. As we already mentioned, crime has
[2:05:33] Speaker 2: been going down. As the Knicks have been playing well
[2:05:36] Speaker 2: in the playoffs, nobody wants to hurt each other.
[2:05:38] Speaker 1: They just want to support each other.
[2:05:40] Speaker 4: That's crazy. All it took was for me to just
[2:05:43] Speaker 4: cheer for the Knicks. All it took. All it took
[2:05:45] Speaker 4: for the Eagles to win was for me to be
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: a fucking fan for the Eagles, and they won. Boston,
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: they ain't won in so long, they not even picked Boston.
[2:05:54] Speaker 4: I really wasn't even rooting for Miami. They probably would
[2:05:56] Speaker 4: have won if I had thought they could win. But
[2:05:59] Speaker 4: then they halfway got, then they got my Knicks.
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: So, what do the Knicks need to do to close
[2:06:04] Speaker 1: out the series on home on Friday? Show up? You heard.
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: Show up. Just show up, man.
[2:06:13] Speaker 4: Play hard, though, because let the crowd win it for you,
[2:06:16] Speaker 4: not like they lost it for you the other game.
[2:06:19] Speaker 1: When the crowd lost it for New York?
[2:06:21] Speaker 14: The crowd lost the game for them. They can't let
[2:06:24] Speaker 14: that happen again. I mean, the city is– The city's
[2:06:30] Speaker 14: going to be on fire. So at this point, you're
[2:06:35] Speaker 14: going to be energized by the city themselves. So you
[2:06:40] Speaker 14: going out there showing up is a key factor.
[2:06:44] Speaker 5: Now, to make sure this is not a really good
[2:06:48] Speaker 5: close game, OG's going to have to start playing better basketball.
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: He has to play smarter basketball.
[2:06:57] Speaker 5: There's some times where He gets that rebound and he
[2:07:00] Speaker 5: thinks he needs to go coast to coast.
[2:07:03] Speaker 1: Stop that. Don't do that. You don't need to do
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: that no more. Not this series, right? But pull up, play.
[2:07:11] Speaker 5: They just got to play a little bit smarter just
[2:07:13] Speaker 5: in certain moments, right? I think if you get out
[2:07:16] Speaker 5: to a great start and they start panicking and shooting
[2:07:21] Speaker 5: a lot of threes, this could be an easy win
[2:07:24] Speaker 5: for you.
[2:07:25] Speaker 1: But if you come out there trying.
[2:07:26] Speaker 5: To play– all y'all trying to play– there's one hero here.
[2:07:29] Speaker 1: Y'all are all sidekicks. Play like it.
[2:07:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, like you said, it's going
[2:07:38] Speaker 3: to be a lot of excitement. I think you just
[2:07:39] Speaker 3: play your game.
[2:07:40] Speaker 6: You know, don't try to get caught up. I think
[2:07:44] Speaker 6: the game is going to be one of the first
[2:07:45] Speaker 6: five minutes for New York, how they come out, how
[2:07:48] Speaker 6: they approach the game. Because, of course, Boston– You know,
[2:07:52] Speaker 6: they're not playing with no type of pressure. You know,
[2:07:54] Speaker 6: they're just out there trying to get another game.
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: See, I don't know.
[2:07:59] Speaker 6: I don't think there's no pressure on them. Because if
[2:08:02] Speaker 6: it goes back to the Garden, I mean, damn. We're
[2:08:06] Speaker 6: already at game seven, so it's like you got Derek White.
[2:08:08] Speaker 1: If Derek White.
[2:08:09] Speaker 6: Goes into tomorrow's game and has the same game he
[2:08:15] Speaker 6: just had, I mean, what do you think he's going
[2:08:16] Speaker 6: to do in the Garden in Boston?
[2:08:17] Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying is I think the pressure, to
[2:08:19] Speaker 5: be honest, the pressure is still on.
[2:08:23] Speaker 1: Austin.
[2:08:24] Speaker 15: No, because he was up 3-1. But it don't matter.
[2:08:27] Speaker 15: But you're the number one. No, we're the number two team.
[2:08:30] Speaker 15: But you're the champions. You're favored to win the championship.
[2:08:33] Speaker 15: You got to defend the title. But the Knicks was
[2:08:34] Speaker 15: favored when they went up 3-1, right?
[2:08:36] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:08:37] Speaker 1: Okay.
[2:08:38] Speaker 5: But if Knicks lose the series, no one said nothing.
[2:08:42] Speaker 5: They're not getting killed. Fuck no. I'm firing Tim. I'm
[2:08:45] Speaker 5: firing Tim.
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: This is two years in a row.
[2:08:49] Speaker 3: This is two years in a row. For sure.
[2:08:53] Speaker 4: If he loses a 3-1 lead on top of last year,
[2:08:56] Speaker 4: gotta go, bro. You have two Olympians. You remember the
[2:08:59] Speaker 4: same shit y'all said? You have two Olympians. You have
[2:09:02] Speaker 4: all NBA.
[2:09:04] Speaker 1: No Tatum. Your team is still supposed to be better
[2:09:06] Speaker 1: than ours. Still. Yeah, no. No way. No way. Not
[2:09:09] Speaker 1: on paper. Yes, it is. No way. The Knicks? Yes! No! Yes!
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: On paper, they're still.
[2:09:16] Speaker 6: You only have Brunson.
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: On paper, the Boston Celtics are still better than the Knicks. No,
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: that's what I'm... Oh, yeah. I'm agreeing on that. I'm
[2:09:23] Speaker 1: agreeing on that. I'm agreeing on that. So, at the
[2:09:26] Speaker 1: end of the day, no Tatum.
[2:09:30] Speaker 3: The best player, right?
[2:09:31] Speaker 1: Porzingis... Dealing with something.
[2:09:33] Speaker 4: So if I'm the Knicks, there's only one solution to
[2:09:35] Speaker 4: get a guaranteed win. We get Jalen Brown in foul trouble.
[2:09:38] Speaker 4: He wants to play defense. Switch off on Brunson. Get
[2:09:42] Speaker 4: him in foul trouble. All night long, we're going to
[2:09:44] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown. Once he dies, they all give up. Then
[2:09:50] Speaker 4: I'm going at Pritchard. Then I'm going at Pritchard.
[2:09:52] Speaker 1: I'm going at White. Because White is going to panic.
[2:09:56] Speaker 1: White is going to panic. He has no filter.
[2:10:00] Speaker 4: He turns into Klay Thompson with nobody to pass to.
[2:10:04] Speaker 1: He's going to shoot, shoot, shoot.
[2:10:06] Speaker 3: It's not scary because he's going to miss.
[2:10:09] Speaker 1: He's not like that.
[2:10:11] Speaker 3: No, he likes to get the ball from other people.
[2:10:13] Speaker 1: No, he's making an offense. Trust me, Derek White don't
[2:10:16] Speaker 1: get it.
[2:10:17] Speaker 3: I'm scared of Derek White in this game, game six.
[2:10:19] Speaker 1: That's the one. If Derek White don't show up and
[2:10:22] Speaker 1: don't get the blame.
[2:10:24] Speaker 3: No, it's not about that.
[2:10:25] Speaker 1: If Derek White don't show up, they lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:10:27] Speaker 1: If Derek White don't show up, they lose. He should
[2:10:29] Speaker 1: get criticized for it. Who, no? I mean, yeah, if
[2:10:32] Speaker 1: you want.
[2:10:32] Speaker 3: I mean, a third option.
[2:10:33] Speaker 1: The Olympian? The third option? The same guy y'all praising.
[2:10:37] Speaker 1: The third option? The same guy y'all saying is, you know, untouchable.
[2:10:40] Speaker 3: He is an Olympian. And all this other shit.
[2:10:42] Speaker 1: He is going to get criticized. I guarantee you he doesn't.
[2:10:45] Speaker 3: By me.
[2:10:46] Speaker 1: By me, 100%.
[2:10:46] Speaker 3: He's going to walk right out of there and go
[2:10:48] Speaker 3: right to his vacation.
[2:10:49] Speaker 1: It's toupee time if you don't deliver, niggas.
[2:10:51] Speaker 4: Nah.
[2:10:51] Speaker 1: But we will find out on Friday. But he's the
[2:10:53] Speaker 1: third option. He's a third option. But if you look
[2:10:58] Speaker 1: at how they played.
[2:11:00] Speaker 5: Yesterday, he took Tatum's spot. He was the one initiating
[2:11:05] Speaker 5: the offense. Get him in foul trouble. That stops all
[2:11:10] Speaker 5: fast break threes, and now that forces Jalen Brown to
[2:11:15] Speaker 5: create the offense with nobody to pass it to in
[2:11:18] Speaker 5: the corner. See, now if Derrick White can get you
[2:11:22] Speaker 5: to move and then it goes to Brown and now
[2:11:24] Speaker 5: Brown attacks you, Boston Celtics stay the same. If you
[2:11:29] Speaker 5: can fuck.
[2:11:30] Speaker 3: Up Derrick White.
[2:11:34] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Brown has to. Now he has to dribble up
[2:11:37] Speaker 1: the court.
[2:11:37] Speaker 3: No, Pritchard's dribbling up.
[2:11:39] Speaker 1: No, that didn't mean. He doesn't start a game like that.
[2:11:43] Speaker 1: Pritchard takes over. Cool.
[2:11:44] Speaker 4: Hell yeah. Then I know he ain't passing to Brown.
[2:11:47] Speaker 4: That's why we get Brown out of there. I know
[2:11:48] Speaker 4: he ain't passing to Brown.
[2:11:49] Speaker 3: We get Brown out of there to stabilize their defense.
[2:11:51] Speaker 6: If Pritchard comes up, then you don't have nobody off
[2:11:53] Speaker 6: the bench. You need both of them.
[2:11:56] Speaker 4: But if we as a team get rid of Brown first,
[2:12:00] Speaker 4: they are destabilized.
[2:12:01] Speaker 1: Defensively. Everything. Captain, leadership.
[2:12:04] Speaker 4: You just got two gunslingers.
[2:12:06] Speaker 3: You got two gunslingers, bro.
[2:12:08] Speaker 4: I got two gunslingers. They don't play structure ball. You
[2:12:12] Speaker 4: got two Jordan Pools out there.
[2:12:13] Speaker 3: That's why it's scary, because if they get hot.
[2:12:15] Speaker 1: It's not if. If it was a fifth. But they
[2:12:18] Speaker 1: be hot. They do be hot. But now we're keying
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: on them.
[2:12:22] Speaker 4: Now we're like, we cannot let them get off.
[2:12:26] Speaker 3: Before it was Tatum and Brown.
[2:12:28] Speaker 1: Tatum Brown, Brown Pritchard.
[2:12:30] Speaker 4: Now, man, it's like, look, Derek White has shown that
[2:12:33] Speaker 4: he's going to be the guy we need to isolate
[2:12:35] Speaker 4: and distinguish right away.
[2:12:37] Speaker 1: White? Yeah. That's outside of Brown. Brown is the main guy.
[2:12:41] Speaker 3: I'm taking White out first.
[2:12:42] Speaker 1: I'm taking White out first. So we will find out.
[2:12:44] Speaker 1: He's a gunslinger.
[2:12:45] Speaker 4: Yes, and if he misses those shots yesterday, game over.
[2:12:50] Speaker 3: You're living by the three, dying by the three.
[2:12:52] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is if he doesn't start the game
[2:12:55] Speaker 4: off the way he did. Remember, he was the most
[2:12:57] Speaker 4: aggressive person on the court. Who held the tone down
[2:13:01] Speaker 4: the whole way. It was Jalen Brown. He set the tone.
[2:13:05] Speaker 4: Like you said, that defensive play that he made was
[2:13:08] Speaker 4: a game changer. Derrick White is not that guy that's
[2:13:11] Speaker 4: going to do that and still keep the tone.
[2:13:13] Speaker 1: Derrick White had 34 last game? Yes. I mean, come on.
[2:13:16] Speaker 7: He did high, but you ain't got the tone. The
[2:13:19] Speaker 7: tone setter, it ain't going to happen.
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: We will find out game six Friday night if the
[2:13:25] Speaker 2: Celtics can keep their series alive. We got one more
[2:13:27] Speaker 2: last thing to talk about before we get to mostly fans.
[2:13:29] Speaker 2: So let's get the two-time MVP who could be on
[2:13:31] Speaker 2: the move this summer. According to Shams, for the first
[2:13:34] Speaker 2: time in his illustrious career with the Bucs, Giannis Antetokounmpo
[2:13:37] Speaker 2: is open-minded and about exploring whether his best long-term fit
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: is remaining in Milwaukee or playing elsewhere. So Giannis reportedly
[2:13:46] Speaker 2: hasn't made a firm decision yet, but after the Bucs
[2:13:48] Speaker 2: have lost in the first round for three straight seasons,
[2:13:51] Speaker 2: he's giving it some thought. Is it the right time
[2:13:53] Speaker 2: for Giannis to request a trade from the Bucs? I
[2:14:04] Speaker 2: see you have added some smoke in the arena. Our
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: two different smoke machines, LeBron and Bron. Go ahead and
[2:14:10] Speaker 2: just listen. This year, this summer, City, put the man
[2:14:14] Speaker 2: a statue. Put him a statue wherever you want to
[2:14:17] Speaker 2: put it at. I'm talking about Milwaukee. It's too late
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: to give him a farewell tour, but it is what
[2:14:25] Speaker 2: it is.
[2:14:25] Speaker 5: Maybe he'll come back during his last couple years.
[2:14:28] Speaker 1: When he'll come back and give you all that farewell tour,
[2:14:31] Speaker 1: but it's time. Listen, he won.
[2:14:36] Speaker 5: He won in a place 50-year drought. That nobody even
[2:14:41] Speaker 5: seen it coming. He gave you everything he can.
[2:14:44] Speaker 1: Possibly, possibly give.
[2:14:50] Speaker 5: There's nothing that you guys can do to help him
[2:14:55] Speaker 5: win a championship at this moment in time. There's no
[2:14:58] Speaker 5: trades that y'all can make, no valuable.
[2:15:01] Speaker 1: Pieces that you have.
[2:15:06] Speaker 5: You rebuild, he's gone. So at this moment in time,
[2:15:09] Speaker 5: Dame is hurt. He's going to be missing, shit, about
[2:15:13] Speaker 5: a year and a half, damn near two years.
[2:15:17] Speaker 3: He's already 30.
[2:15:18] Speaker 1: Right? You know what I mean?
[2:15:19] Speaker 5: So without Dame, there's no hope. You don't have another piece.
[2:15:26] Speaker 5: Your team ain't good enough. So you might as well
[2:15:29] Speaker 5: just start dumping it and just say, hey, listen, fans,
[2:15:33] Speaker 5: he did it for us. it's just going on and
[2:15:36] Speaker 5: move on and see what we can get for him and,
[2:15:39] Speaker 5: you know, and go to, you know, Brooklyn or.
[2:15:41] Speaker 1: New York or. Yeah. I mean, there's other cities as well.
[2:15:44] Speaker 4: Brooklyn, New York, Chicago, Miami is going to be one
[2:15:47] Speaker 4: of those. There's also other cities as well. I mean,
[2:15:49] Speaker 4: I do want to stay East.
[2:15:51] Speaker 1: I don't think he's really explored the beauty. I mean,
[2:15:54] Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I do agree.
[2:15:56] Speaker 6: Like he has done everything you can possibly do for
[2:15:58] Speaker 6: a franchise. Um, you know, if, if they want to
[2:16:01] Speaker 6: request a trade, um, I think they should still send
[2:16:04] Speaker 6: him off, you know, somewhere that's beneficial. You know, you
[2:16:10] Speaker 6: don't want to have too much bad blood with him.
[2:16:13] Speaker 6: I mean, I know once you're once you're gone, you're gone. But,
[2:16:17] Speaker 6: you know, I think he deserves more than that. You know,
[2:16:19] Speaker 6: just being traded to somewhere where, you know, whatever. So
[2:16:23] Speaker 6: I think they got to make that right to me.
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: Do you feel like now is the time for Giannis
[2:16:28] Speaker 1: to request a trade?
[2:16:31] Speaker 4: If it happens and he asks for a trade, you
[2:16:34] Speaker 4: want us to send you wherever you want to go
[2:16:37] Speaker 4: to help you win?
[2:16:46] Speaker 1: All right. Does he not deserve that for everything he's
[2:16:48] Speaker 1: given to the city, brought a championship?
[2:16:49] Speaker 3: Does the city deserve for you to leave?
[2:16:52] Speaker 1: Beautiful city. Yeah. I mean, shit, yeah.
[2:16:54] Speaker 3: If you ain't bringing nothing in here, I'm supposed to
[2:16:56] Speaker 3: just keep going.
[2:16:57] Speaker 1: Through losing seasons? I mean, you did before you won.
[2:17:03] Speaker 1: Now that I got one, I tasted the champagne.
[2:17:05] Speaker 3: I got everything. All right, what else you want me
[2:17:06] Speaker 3: to do? All right. We ain't got no point guard
[2:17:08] Speaker 3: for next year.
[2:17:08] Speaker 4: All right, reveal yourself. We know who you are now.
[2:17:11] Speaker 4: Take your ass on. You're not a warrior we thought.
[2:17:14] Speaker 4: We thought you was a Greek warrior. But I guess
[2:17:18] Speaker 4: we was wrong. So I thought Giannis was a Greek warrior. Mythological.
[2:17:23] Speaker 1: Business. A mythological Greek warrior.
[2:17:26] Speaker 3: Business.
[2:17:27] Speaker 1: I mean, then I'm just saying there's nothing. I mean,
[2:17:29] Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the way the roster is.
[2:17:32] Speaker 5: You know, your second main piece, your go-to guy at
[2:17:38] Speaker 5: the end, he's going to be down for, you know,
[2:17:41] Speaker 5: all of next year. So that means all of next year,
[2:17:44] Speaker 5: you're not going to make it to the championship, And
[2:17:49] Speaker 5: then you got Dame coming back. You don't know how
[2:17:53] Speaker 5: he's going to be. So I can tell you this,
[2:17:57] Speaker 5: it ain't going to be championship ready. So at this point,
[2:18:02] Speaker 5: if you're thinking about trying to win or put yourself
[2:18:05] Speaker 5: in a better situation to win, You have to demand
[2:18:08] Speaker 5: a trade because there's no one's dumb enough to.
[2:18:13] Speaker 4: Give you back something for Dame or anybody right now. Like,
[2:18:15] Speaker 4: what am I going to give back? A guy that
[2:18:18] Speaker 4: you can use and I can't?
[2:18:20] Speaker 1: Like, no, I'm not going to.
[2:18:22] Speaker 4: So he's going to have to demand a trade and
[2:18:23] Speaker 4: he's just going to have to break the team up
[2:18:25] Speaker 4: in these next two years.
[2:18:26] Speaker 3: That's all.
[2:18:27] Speaker 1: So, good.
[2:18:27] Speaker 4: You listed out some potential landing spots for Giannis. For Giannis,
[2:18:31] Speaker 4: for himself, it's one of the major markets, obviously. But
[2:18:35] Speaker 4: now let's just say I'm the Bucs. But you are Giannis.
[2:18:38] Speaker 4: Which one of those major markets? What is the team
[2:18:40] Speaker 4: that you feel like is the most ideal and benefits
[2:18:43] Speaker 4: you the most to keep winning championships like you said
[2:18:47] Speaker 4: you wanted to do?
[2:18:51] Speaker 1: New York, right? New York's energy matches Giannis' style of play, right?
[2:18:59] Speaker 1: A And that's why the city loves Brunson, right?
[2:19:03] Speaker 5: Brunson and New York crowd, the blue collar, they fight hard.
[2:19:08] Speaker 5: Like you can see right now, they are the craziest
[2:19:12] Speaker 5: people online right now.
[2:19:14] Speaker 1: They are the craziest fan base. They're winning.
[2:19:17] Speaker 4: It's going to get worse. You might have to bring
[2:19:19] Speaker 4: the National Guard for them motherfuckers out there. So how
[2:19:23] Speaker 4: he plays fits.
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: New York Knicks.
[2:19:29] Speaker 4: I don't know what the Brooklyn fan base feels like.
[2:19:33] Speaker 5: You would think that they would transfer over because it's
[2:19:35] Speaker 5: New York. But just being, I don't know if it's
[2:19:38] Speaker 5: going to.
[2:19:38] Speaker 1: I think it's like the Clippers. Yeah, I don't know
[2:19:40] Speaker 1: if the... You know what I mean?
[2:19:42] Speaker 5: It's still New York, but I don't think the Brooklyn
[2:19:45] Speaker 5: fan is as aggressive as the New York Knicks fan.
[2:19:48] Speaker 1: Right?
[2:19:50] Speaker 5: Or you go to the next best thing, and that's
[2:19:53] Speaker 5: the Chicago Bull. You go on down to Chicago... And
[2:19:59] Speaker 5: they're going to embrace you like a god, and you're
[2:20:02] Speaker 5: going to turn that city around.
[2:20:05] Speaker 1: Right? For his brand.
[2:20:06] Speaker 4: Look, Giannis, stay in Milwaukee, wait for Elijah Arenas to
[2:20:12] Speaker 4: get there, and win a championship. You'll be good. Don't
[2:20:18] Speaker 4: wish that on us. Don't wish that on my boy.
[2:20:22] Speaker 4: Don't wish that on my boy.
[2:20:23] Speaker 1: Milwaukee? Come on, man. Shout out to the boy, man.
[2:20:30] Speaker 1: God damn. Giannis, yeah. Come on, man. He's waiting for
[2:20:35] Speaker 1: some talent. Oh, man.
[2:20:37] Speaker 4: Where do you think he's going to go?
[2:20:40] Speaker 1: He ain't going to no big city.
[2:20:41] Speaker 3: He's going one-two.
[2:20:43] Speaker 1: He's going one-two, man. What you mean? Giannis, stay here.
[2:20:48] Speaker 1: There is a place where he could go.
[2:20:50] Speaker 3: He's going one-two, man.
[2:20:52] Speaker 2: There is a place where he could go if he
[2:20:54] Speaker 2: wanted to extend his championship window, but I will not say.
[2:20:57] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go there. Get him there. That's
[2:20:58] Speaker 1: what we got to see. Get him there. You've been
[2:21:01] Speaker 1: talking crazy all this time.
[2:21:03] Speaker 4: You've got to go boogie.
[2:21:07] Speaker 1: In and everything.
[2:21:08] Speaker 6: And plus, Milwaukee don't have straight flights, so we've got
[2:21:10] Speaker 6: to fly into Chicago, drive down.
[2:21:12] Speaker 4: They don't got the Southwest one anymore. They used to
[2:21:14] Speaker 4: have the one Southwest. Fly to Chicago, give us two-hour drive.
[2:21:17] Speaker 4: Good luck out there, man. It's a two-hour drive from Chicago.
[2:21:22] Speaker 4: You don't need to buy me no front row.
[2:21:23] Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm not wanted over there, Dan.
[2:21:27] Speaker 3: Hey, you get drafted today, Detroit.
[2:21:29] Speaker 1: Hey, brother, I can't even show up to the game.
[2:21:31] Speaker 1: I'm watching. Sacramento? You're from Sacramento, too? Yeah, Sacramento. I'm
[2:21:37] Speaker 1: like Hallenberg's father.
[2:21:39] Speaker 3: I can't show up to the gym.
[2:21:41] Speaker 1: I banned myself. I banned myself from the shit I've
[2:21:44] Speaker 1: been doing over these years, man. Indiana.
[2:21:46] Speaker 5: Today, Detroit told me I can't even fly around the city.
[2:21:49] Speaker 5: They said, don't show up around.
[2:21:51] Speaker 3: No fly zone.
[2:21:52] Speaker 1: No fly zone around us.
[2:21:54] Speaker 4: Just anything close to this motherfucker.
[2:21:56] Speaker 1: They said, Indian State.
[2:21:58] Speaker 4: Don't show up. It's all Gilbert in the area. It's
[2:22:02] Speaker 4: all Gilbert in the area. Persona, Nagrata, in multiple cities
[2:22:07] Speaker 4: around the NBA. Elijah will land in one of those cities.
[2:22:10] Speaker 4: You already know how it goes. You will have to
[2:22:12] Speaker 4: mend the fences with that particular city.
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man.
[2:22:18] Speaker 4: You don't want to be there without Giannis.
[2:22:22] Speaker 1: I know that.
[2:22:22] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, will Giannis change teams this summer? 80%
[2:22:26] Speaker 2: of the chat believes that he will.
[2:22:28] Speaker 1: Damn. It's hard out here. Milwaukee, a lovely city.
[2:22:31] Speaker 5: Hot out here for pain.
[2:22:35] Speaker 3: It's hot.
[2:22:36] Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's not. It's cold in the D.
[2:22:38] Speaker 3: It's so cold in the D.
[2:22:42] Speaker 2: It is so cold in the D. Cold in Gil's
[2:22:44] Speaker 2: Arena as well, presented by Underdog Woo Woo. Let's move
[2:22:47] Speaker 2: on to Mostly Fans.
[2:22:48] Speaker 1: Jesus.
[2:22:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
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[2:22:56] Speaker 2: special pick-em. Those pick-ems for Giannis may be with a
[2:22:58] Speaker 2: different uniform next season. We will find out.
[2:23:00] Speaker 3: I was trying to fight for him.
[2:23:02] Speaker 2: But our first question, we got an email question from
[2:23:04] Speaker 2: Underdog user Capoduce. What player left in the playoffs do
[2:23:08] Speaker 2: you have the most trust in? So what player remaining
[2:23:11] Speaker 2: in the playoffs do you have the most trust in? Mr. B,
[2:23:13] Speaker 2: we'll start with you. I'm going with Hallenberg. Because every time...
[2:23:21] Speaker 2: it's a big moment or something that they need, he answers.
[2:23:24] Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with him right now. The
[2:23:26] Speaker 2: Halliburton family has beef with Giannis. That's not how that
[2:23:29] Speaker 2: series played out. Could be teammates in the near future, though, man.
[2:23:35] Speaker 3: Hey, that's fine. Hey, if they teammates in the future, okay.
[2:23:41] Speaker 1: Nasty. Yeah, think about it. Do the math. Do the math.
[2:23:45] Speaker 1: Do the math.
[2:23:46] Speaker 4: Ask.
[2:23:47] Speaker 1: Do the knowledge. Crazy. For who? Due to knowledge.
[2:23:51] Speaker 3: I mean, they don't got nothing over there.
[2:23:52] Speaker 1: I'm just like, you're dealing with the enemy. I thought
[2:23:56] Speaker 1: you was team Giannis. Due to knowledge.
[2:23:59] Speaker 4: Are you really team Giannis or are you team Hallie?
[2:24:01] Speaker 4: You've been blowing Hallie up a long time.
[2:24:02] Speaker 1: You have been very supportive of Tyrese Halliburton. You see
[2:24:05] Speaker 1: who the beef was. You saw the beef. Hallie's pops.
[2:24:09] Speaker 1: They made up. Everything's good. They dabbed. They dabbed.
[2:24:12] Speaker 3: He shook his hand and told them what it was. Okay.
[2:24:15] Speaker 1: All right. Just making sure. Firm grip. Right, you got
[2:24:17] Speaker 1: the firm grip. Just making sure. I love you. I
[2:24:18] Speaker 1: love you.
[2:24:19] Speaker 6: Listen, the Milwaukee Bucks is at home. I'm just going
[2:24:21] Speaker 6: by what I see these last five games.
[2:24:23] Speaker 4: So let's move over to you, Gil. What player left
[2:24:26] Speaker 4: in the playoffs do you.
[2:24:27] Speaker 1: Have the most trust? In New York. I saw you
[2:24:29] Speaker 1: throw up. I didn't know if that was a gang
[2:24:31] Speaker 1: sign or a Brunson sign. It's a Brunson. I didn't
[2:24:32] Speaker 1: know if you were a Ridge Rolling or supporting Taylor. Brunson,
[2:24:34] Speaker 1: number 11. See, I've always been Brunson.
[2:24:37] Speaker 3: 11, baby, always.
[2:24:40] Speaker 1: You see how that shit work, baby?
[2:24:43] Speaker 3: Oh, God.
[2:24:45] Speaker 1: So let's move over to Cemetery Larry. Tomorrow game, I'm
[2:24:47] Speaker 1: ordering New York pizza.
[2:24:49] Speaker 3: From New York.
[2:24:50] Speaker 1: Mulberry Street. Cold, they got to ship it. You going
[2:24:54] Speaker 1: to make, oh, you said ship it.
[2:24:56] Speaker 3: How about you going to make Chris a gong?
[2:24:58] Speaker 4: Walk all the way to New York.
[2:25:03] Speaker 3: He walking too. From in and out of the jail.
[2:25:06] Speaker 3: This is going to.
[2:25:08] Speaker 1: Be me making a walk. Go down and get some cheesecake.
[2:25:15] Speaker 2: Make sure you check out Untold Shooting Guards, now streaming
[2:25:19] Speaker 2: on Netflix. Let's move over to Cemetery Lair. What player
[2:25:23] Speaker 2: left in the playoffs do you have the most trust in?
[2:25:30] Speaker 1: Josh Astradamus.
[2:25:35] Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards.
[2:25:36] Speaker 1: Ant-Man.
[2:25:37] Speaker 4: Yep. I already know what Brunson's going to do. I
[2:25:40] Speaker 4: don't have to have faith in him. But Anthony Edwards
[2:25:43] Speaker 4: is the guy who's showing that trust in me, it
[2:25:47] Speaker 4: will be.
[2:25:48] Speaker 1: If you trust in me, it will be.
[2:25:50] Speaker 3: It will be.
[2:25:50] Speaker 2: That is a bar for the youth. All right, so
[2:25:52] Speaker 2: we have one more email question from underdog user D.
[2:25:56] Speaker 1: Colbert or D. Colbert, depending on where his parents are from.
[2:25:59] Speaker 2: With the Cavs' early exit, can you see LeBron going
[2:26:02] Speaker 2: back to the land to put them over the top?
[2:26:07] Speaker 1: Y'all don't want everything LeBron did for y'all? Y'all some
[2:26:10] Speaker 1: ungrateful-ass Cleveland.
[2:26:11] Speaker 3: Why do Cleveland fans in here mad about that?
[2:26:13] Speaker 4: Because they don't want to hear that shit no more.
[2:26:16] Speaker 4: They had to hear that shit.
[2:26:18] Speaker 1: They had to see the nigga leave every time.
[2:26:20] Speaker 3: It's trauma, nigga.
[2:26:22] Speaker 1: It's a trauma bond.
[2:26:22] Speaker 3: They're like, don't bring him back.
[2:26:25] Speaker 1: Damn. I'm going to change this time. But he can
[2:26:27] Speaker 1: help y'all.
[2:26:28] Speaker 5: Damn.
[2:26:29] Speaker 3: Again?
[2:26:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to depend on him again, huh? Drake? Right?
[2:26:34] Speaker 3: LeBron?
[2:26:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Y'all don't want Bron back?
[2:26:37] Speaker 5: No, because they want to show that they can win
[2:26:39] Speaker 5: without him.
[2:26:40] Speaker 3: Well, they tried. Well, that ain't going to happen.
[2:26:42] Speaker 1: No, I mean, they tried before he got there. And
[2:26:44] Speaker 1: they lost.
[2:26:45] Speaker 4: And that shit didn't work, and then he won one,
[2:26:47] Speaker 4: and then they're going to try again without him.
[2:26:49] Speaker 1: But this will be the last time he gets to
[2:26:50] Speaker 1: end his career.
[2:26:51] Speaker 3: They got a better chance to have Bone Thugs Harmony
[2:26:53] Speaker 3: drop another album.
[2:26:54] Speaker 1: A very great musical group. The world would be so blessed.
[2:26:58] Speaker 3: Give it up, give it up, give it up.
[2:27:00] Speaker 1: Still can't sing the lyrics. So that means we're going
[2:27:02] Speaker 1: to get back who? Dead giveaway. We get Mobley back.
[2:27:05] Speaker 1: We get Mobley, Garland. No, we don't need Garland. You
[2:27:08] Speaker 1: get Allen.
[2:27:09] Speaker 3: You get Allen.
[2:27:10] Speaker 1: Mobley and Allen? With Luka? No. Just Allen. Just Allen. Nah.
[2:27:16] Speaker 1: You're getting Braun. You get Max Cruz. You get Braun.
[2:27:18] Speaker 1: Max Cruz. You get Struis and Braun.
[2:27:20] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[2:27:20] Speaker 1: Bruce and Allen. Struis and Allen? And Ty Jerome. And
[2:27:25] Speaker 1: Ty Jerome.
[2:27:26] Speaker 4: We get Ty Jerome, Struis and.
[2:27:28] Speaker 1: Allen for Braun. We get Mobley and Allen with Luka?
[2:27:32] Speaker 1: You're taking away both our biggies? You got Bron. Bron
[2:27:35] Speaker 1: got to play the four. Remember that. Bron at 40?
[2:27:38] Speaker 3: No, there's two defensive players.
[2:27:40] Speaker 1: Of the year in double-double.
[2:27:42] Speaker 3: Remember Bron is a four.
[2:27:43] Speaker 1: No, he's not. Yes, he got to play the four now.
[2:27:46] Speaker 1: Bron is like a designated hitter right now. Athlete. He
[2:27:50] Speaker 1: just comes in to do shit and sit down. Say athlete.
[2:27:53] Speaker 1: We need some motherfuckers that can do some shit. Well,
[2:27:55] Speaker 1: as we've talked about, it's going to be a very
[2:27:57] Speaker 1: intriguing summer across the NBA. A lot of moves are
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: going to be made.
[2:28:00] Speaker 2: I really feel like Luka, back during Black History Month,
[2:28:03] Speaker 2: really launched this whole thing because now anybody can be traded.
[2:28:06] Speaker 1: Oh, no, that's him.
[2:28:07] Speaker 3: Ron and Dallas.
[2:28:09] Speaker 1: For Cooper. Cooper and Luka. Cooper.
[2:28:13] Speaker 3: You're going to trade the number one pick for a 40-year-old?
[2:28:16] Speaker 1: For a championship? You got Ron, you ain't going to
[2:28:18] Speaker 1: win a championship with Dallas? I ain't winning this year.
[2:28:21] Speaker 4: No, with Ron? Ron, Kyrie, Klay Thompson. Anthony Davis and
[2:28:27] Speaker 4: motherfucking all them. Just for Cooper Flagg.
[2:28:31] Speaker 3: Wait, I just heard Luca and Cooper? Luca Cooper.
[2:28:36] Speaker 1: Exciting wife. Luca Cooper for LeBron. What?
[2:28:40] Speaker 2: I don't like the energy you've been having towards LeBron lately. No,
[2:28:45] Speaker 2: that's a future right there.
[2:28:46] Speaker 1: That is a future. You ain't said nothing about Bronny
[2:28:48] Speaker 1: in multiple days. Trade that. That's been the setup for
[2:28:51] Speaker 1: Nico anyways. I think we have been confused. Okay, let's
[2:28:56] Speaker 1: try this again. 96. I became a Laker fan. I understand.
[2:29:01] Speaker 1: When I played, Laker fan.
[2:29:05] Speaker 3: Understand.
[2:29:06] Speaker 4: Right?
[2:29:07] Speaker 1: Laker fan. Right? Laker fan. And where does LeBron currently play? Lakers.
[2:29:16] Speaker 1: I didn't like LeBron until he became a what?
[2:29:20] Speaker 3: Laker.
[2:29:22] Speaker 4: When he became a Laker, I bandwagoned, jumped like I've
[2:29:25] Speaker 4: been there forever.
[2:29:26] Speaker 1: Right? Luka came. Greatest European ever. What? You know it.
[2:29:34] Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy.
[2:29:37] Speaker 6: Keep going.
[2:29:39] Speaker 11: Go.
[2:29:39] Speaker 3: Keep going. Luka became one of my favorites.
[2:29:46] Speaker 1: Now, you're telling me right now, as we speak, we can.
[2:29:52] Speaker 4: Get Cooper and Luka? Sasha Adamas. Elite milk, exciting whites.
[2:29:58] Speaker 4: The future of the Lakers, man. With Austin. Elite Lakers. Boy,
[2:30:03] Speaker 4: I feel... Austin, Luka, and Cooper.
[2:30:06] Speaker 5: I feel like Tyrone Beasby right now.
[2:30:08] Speaker 3: The three non-Negro.
[2:30:08] Speaker 1: That's crazy. What?
[2:30:16] Speaker 3: Trey Slater. I'm just saying, man.
[2:30:20] Speaker 1: You see what color I got on, man? You see what.
[2:30:23] Speaker 5: Color I got on, man? Listen, if you're a Dallas fan,
[2:30:25] Speaker 5: y'all can win a championship. I'm like, good shit, get
[2:30:28] Speaker 5: over here. What we got going on over here is
[2:30:31] Speaker 5: future shit.
[2:30:32] Speaker 4: You got Cooper, Luka, Austin, and Dalton.
[2:30:36] Speaker 1: No, no, we getting rid of Dalton. No, you can't
[2:30:38] Speaker 1: get rid of Dalton. But that's what you got. Forget that.
[2:30:41] Speaker 3: That's four. You got four on one.
[2:30:43] Speaker 1: Good. Then you bring Cornette. Hey, hey. You bring Cornette.
[2:30:48] Speaker 1: You got five. You got five. Man. I'm going with
[2:30:51] Speaker 1: that five against some niggas out there. No, I'm not.
[2:30:54] Speaker 3: I'm going with that five.
[2:30:55] Speaker 1: And JJ.
[2:30:55] Speaker 4: And JJ.
[2:30:56] Speaker 3: Luka.
[2:30:56] Speaker 4: Boy.
[2:30:57] Speaker 3: Luka, JJ, Austin.
[2:30:59] Speaker 1: We the Minneapolis Lakers again. And Cornette.
[2:31:02] Speaker 3: We the Minneapolis Lakers. And Cooper Flagg. Cooper Flagg. That
[2:31:06] Speaker 3: Laker taker's going down.
[2:31:07] Speaker 1: What?
[2:31:08] Speaker 3: You crazy? Caitlyn Clark? What are you thinking of Caitlyn Clark?
[2:31:12] Speaker 1: Hey, front row going to be 40,000. Man, you're right.
[2:31:14] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody going to glory row. Man, them seats is
[2:31:18] Speaker 1: going down. Huh? I can tell you this right now. What? Hey,
[2:31:21] Speaker 1: I don't know who you is, but you know how
[2:31:23] Speaker 1: it used to be celebrities around us?
[2:31:27] Speaker 5: Oh, no, it's going to be old Hollywood back in
[2:31:29] Speaker 5: that motherfucker right there.
[2:31:31] Speaker 4: Old Hollywood. Trump is pulling up to the first NBA
[2:31:34] Speaker 4: game in history. I ain't never been to one of these,
[2:31:37] Speaker 4: but my boys is out there.
[2:31:40] Speaker 5: Right now we see like athletes and celebrities. Oh, no,
[2:31:44] Speaker 5: you're going to be seeing who owns shit around here.
[2:31:46] Speaker 1: Who is he?
[2:31:47] Speaker 3: Who the fuck owns Pasadena? He don't be there.
[2:31:50] Speaker 1: DreamWorks.
[2:31:51] Speaker 3: He gon' be there.
[2:31:52] Speaker 1: The ocean. That nigga right there. He on the ocean.
[2:31:55] Speaker 3: He on the ocean. He on the ocean. He on
[2:31:58] Speaker 3: the ocean.
[2:31:58] Speaker 1: You know Dr.
[2:31:59] Speaker 5: Dre, Beast by Dre, who owns Beast by Dre, he gon'
[2:32:03] Speaker 5: be there.
[2:32:05] Speaker 1: Water. It's going to be this, man. It's going to
[2:32:08] Speaker 1: be air. The dude that own air.
[2:32:11] Speaker 3: All that shit you be breathing. Elon Musk.
[2:32:14] Speaker 1: You're going to see him, man.
[2:32:17] Speaker 4: What?
[2:32:17] Speaker 9: They're going to be with jerseys on.
[2:32:22] Speaker 1: You know what? I'm about to buy my season tickets
[2:32:24] Speaker 1: right now.
[2:32:25] Speaker 5: And on that note, I can tell you this right now.
[2:32:28] Speaker 5: As soon as you buy them and have them, they're
[2:32:30] Speaker 5: going to be like, hey, yo, I'm going to get
[2:32:31] Speaker 5: an email. We done rejected your pay.
[2:32:34] Speaker 2: We're going to give you four rebounds.
[2:32:38] Speaker 1: Triple.
[2:32:38] Speaker 2: And on that note, appreciate everybody in the chat. Appreciate
[2:32:41] Speaker 2: everybody on this couch. Thank you all for another glorious
[2:32:45] Speaker 2: week here. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena
[2:32:47] Speaker 2: presented by Underdog. We will see you all next week.

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