# The Los Angeles Lakers NEED To Push The Panic Button

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 25 Feb 2026, 2 h 07 min.

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The Los Angeles Lakers NEED To Push The Panic Button according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Lakers tricking off another double digit lead to the Orlando Magic last night and discuss their concern with the purple & gold's struggles against the league's top teams. They break down how JJ Redick & the team should handle their big 3 of Luka Doncic, LeBron James and Austin Reaves moving forward as the superstar trio has still not figured it out on the court and continue their conversation on LeBron James' future with the team as the King is set to hit free agency this summer. Next, they react to Jonathan Kuminga making his debut with the Atlanta Hawks as the former Golden State Warrior dropped a season high 27 points in his first game since escaping the Bay Area and debate if Kuminga will make his former team pay for giving up on him early. Finally, they address Kevin Durant's comments defending USA Basketball and the AAU system as the superstar committed to represent Team USA in the 2028 olympics and fend off the European takeover of basketball before giving their takes on the NBA's plans to stop tanking as it runs rampant through the league. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Show Start 0:00:00 Lakers Need To Hit The Panic Button 0:06:02 Kuminga Cooks In His Hawks Debut 0:55:20 KD Defending USA Hoops DETONATES Gil's Arena 1:20:32 Prayers Up For Chris Bosh 1:58:11 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's virtual arena presented by underdog. Whoa, whoa.
[0:06] Speaker 1: We got the countdown. We have a countdown for your day,
[0:11] Speaker 1: audio and visual. So you are ready to do this,
[0:14] Speaker 1: but this is Gil's arena presented by underdog. I'm merely
[0:16] Speaker 1: a host, Josiah Johnson. As always, we have the NBA
[0:19] Speaker 1: legend and arc Raiders player, Gilbert Arenas here with us.
[0:22] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[0:24] Speaker 1: Making his first appearance this week. NBA champion of the
[0:28] Speaker 1: world swag EP, Nick Young. For the best, probably better
[0:31] Speaker 1: that you were not here yesterday, Swaggy, but we appreciate
[0:33] Speaker 1: you pulling up tonight. I've seen it, though.
[0:36] Speaker 3: I've seen the ending of the show.
[0:38] Speaker 1: I caught the ending. We've got a distinguished gentleman from
[0:44] Speaker 1: Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin, back here
[0:46] Speaker 1: with us.
[0:48] Speaker 4: What's happening, man?
[0:50] Speaker 1: And representing Tough Crowd and a card-carrying country club member,
[0:52] Speaker 1: we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back in the virtual arena. Hey,
[0:57] Speaker 1: I like it. That looks like you indoor. It looks clean, brother.
[1:02] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. I got my golf shirt on today.
[1:06] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:07] Speaker 1: You ain't out there, though.
[1:08] Speaker 4: I ain't out there.
[1:10] Speaker 1: It says I never pull out. You know, like a thingy,
[1:17] Speaker 1: I just hit it right there. Perhaps that has multiple
[1:22] Speaker 1: meanings and can be interpreted in multiple different ways. But
[1:25] Speaker 1: we got a lot to get into today. Here's what's
[1:26] Speaker 1: cracking in Gil's arena this afternoon. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:33] Speaker 1: It's doing some weird shit.
[1:35] Speaker 2: No, it's not, Gil. Don't even try to play me. Hey,
[1:38] Speaker 2: I see a lot of people in the, what is
[1:41] Speaker 2: this called? The virtual arena. The producers, do they all
[1:46] Speaker 2: need to be here?
[1:47] Speaker 1: I think they're sucking up some of the internet. I
[1:49] Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Are they taking all the
[1:51] Speaker 1: good internet, Gil? You got gated community Wi-Fi. Come on now.
[1:58] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, you don't... It wasn't, like, glitchy? Mm-hmm.
[2:04] Speaker 1: A little bit.
[2:04] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:05] Speaker 1: All right, maybe I'm true. But here's what's cracking in
[2:08] Speaker 1: Gil's arena today. Lakers have dropped four of their last
[2:10] Speaker 1: six games to fall to sixth in the West. Is
[2:14] Speaker 1: it time for the Purple and Gold to start hitting
[2:15] Speaker 1: the panic button? Kevin Durant clapped back at critics of
[2:19] Speaker 1: American grassroots basketball development in comparison to the European-style But
[2:23] Speaker 1: is KD spitting or tripping? And the league is set
[2:26] Speaker 1: to roll out some anti-tanking rule changes next season. But
[2:30] Speaker 1: will they do anything to stop the trend? Before we
[2:32] Speaker 1: get into all that, as always, this show is brought
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[2:50] Speaker 1: can't watch this, virtual show live with us on YouTube.
[2:52] Speaker 1: We have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you
[2:55] Speaker 1: get your podcasts. We're going to start this one on
[2:57] Speaker 1: a down note. The Lakers tricked off... Who was the
[3:00] Speaker 1: sponsor you just said?
[3:02] Speaker 2: Who's the sponsor? As always, presented by Underdog. Okay, I
[3:07] Speaker 2: was just saying.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Someone said we lost Underdog. I was just wondering. I
[3:12] Speaker 1: thought I heard Underdog. As you do every single episode
[3:16] Speaker 1: of Gil's Arena, whether virtual or in studio... You know what?
[3:19] Speaker 1: Since I'm on my time... I'm going to look right
[3:22] Speaker 1: in the camera. Don't make me come back down there, boy. Okay?
[3:27] Speaker 2: Keep my name out your mouth before I come back
[3:30] Speaker 2: down to the gutter and I'll wreck your shit up, okay?
[3:34] Speaker 4: All right?
[3:36] Speaker 1: Okay? Do we need to establish the rules again? Okay.
[3:40] Speaker 2: You talking to me?
[3:45] Speaker 5: No.
[3:45] Speaker 2: One of your ex-teammates, I'm just saying, I will come
[3:48] Speaker 2: down there, tear all that down and.
[3:50] Speaker 1: Up again, Okay? I don't know what you're going down
[3:55] Speaker 1: there talking. We used to be in the house.
[3:58] Speaker 2: We graduating to a studio where other shows can be presented.
[4:04] Speaker 1: From the house to a studio. Okay? You keep running
[4:10] Speaker 1: off at the mouth, I'm going to come down there, boy.
[4:12] Speaker 3: You talking to me?
[4:15] Speaker 1: No, your friend. One of your teammates. I haven't seen
[4:21] Speaker 1: this thing in a long time, man. You already know.
[4:25] Speaker 3: I will get the dragon.
[4:27] Speaker 2: I will get the dragon around again. Okay, so let's continue.
[4:31] Speaker 2: They be trying to pretend.
[4:33] Speaker 1: Okay. Ain't no way.
[4:37] Speaker 4: They didn't like all the blacks.
[4:40] Speaker 2: They didn't like all the black Trucks coming through in,
[4:43] Speaker 2: through out.
[4:45] Speaker 1: Where the purpose at? So they didn't like all the
[4:48] Speaker 1: black trucks.
[4:49] Speaker 2: There's 30 people coming through the neighborhood. I mean, there's
[4:53] Speaker 2: 30 parking spaces.
[4:55] Speaker 1: There's limos coming through and out. They don't like that.
[5:00] Speaker 1: Can you move your business somewhere else?
[5:02] Speaker 2: Okay. Now you keep running off at your mouth, brother.
[5:08] Speaker 2: I'm going to come down there again. Spank you. And
[5:12] Speaker 2: you know, I must thank you. We done had these
[5:14] Speaker 2: problems for years. I done ruined your page plenty of times.
[5:20] Speaker 3: Be easy.
[5:23] Speaker 1: It's 2026.
[5:23] Speaker 2: You don't want another year of getting strikes and all that.
[5:27] Speaker 1: Just enjoy your life, brother. Can you please carry on?
[5:32] Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Very productive week on the beef
[5:36] Speaker 1: sector as well for this show. A lot of different
[5:38] Speaker 1: beef situations going on. As you guys can see, Rashad
[5:40] Speaker 1: McCann's not on the show today. He will be back tomorrow.
[5:42] Speaker 1: I'm sure there's more things that will need to be
[5:45] Speaker 1: addressed and discussed. But let's get into it. Do I
[5:50] Speaker 1: have to be here?
[5:51] Speaker 3: Yes.
[5:51] Speaker 1: Contractually obligated. Yes.
[5:53] Speaker 4: Yes, fool.
[5:54] Speaker 1: Yes. Contractually obligated to be in your arena, presented by
[6:00] Speaker 1: Underdog Boop Boop. But let's talk about an unfortunate situation
[6:03] Speaker 1: that went down last night. Lakers tricked off a double-digit
[6:05] Speaker 1: second-half lead And a home loss to the Magic Tuesday
[6:08] Speaker 1: night to drop their second straight game. And their final
[6:11] Speaker 1: play of the game left fans scratching their heads. We
[6:14] Speaker 1: can't show the full highlights, but I will show you.
[6:16] Speaker 1: They say a picture's worth a thousand words, so we
[6:18] Speaker 1: will take a look at this picture right here. So
[6:21] Speaker 1: with the purple and gold down one with 6.7 seconds remaining,
[6:24] Speaker 1: LeBron inbounded it to Luka, who was wide open for
[6:27] Speaker 1: a somewhat deep three. Luka opted not to take that shot,
[6:31] Speaker 1: tried to get closer to the hoop, but the Magic
[6:33] Speaker 1: defense recovered. Luka threw a grenade to LeBron. who was
[6:36] Speaker 1: forced to take a contested fadeaway three that clanked off
[6:38] Speaker 1: the rim to seal the loss. So after the game, J.J. Redick, LeBron,
[6:42] Speaker 1: and Luka all gave their thoughts on the final play.
[6:49] Speaker 1: We are pulling that clip up as we speak. This
[6:50] Speaker 1: is virtual, ladies and gentlemen. We have things we are workshopping.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Y'all don't know how to fight the claims on YouTube.
[7:02] Speaker 1: You know, ran a play to get a look. You know,
[7:07] Speaker 1: I felt like he had, you know, a decent shot.
[7:10] Speaker 1: I thought he had a good look, and it looked
[7:12] Speaker 1: like he kind of just lost his balance. You know,
[7:14] Speaker 1: didn't have a rhythm with the ball, whatever the case
[7:16] Speaker 1: may be. And it kind of allowed him to get
[7:19] Speaker 1: back in front of him. You know, I was kind
[7:22] Speaker 1: of on.
[7:22] Speaker 4: Balance when he gave it to me.
[7:23] Speaker 1: You know, I thought he had a great look, but
[7:26] Speaker 1: that's what I looked.
[7:27] Speaker 4: That's my POV. I know it was open, but I
[7:30] Speaker 4: just thought it was a little bit far.
[7:32] Speaker 6: I think one dribble closer probably shouldn't pick up the
[7:35] Speaker 6: ball just trying to attack.
[7:38] Speaker 1: Like I said, Lakers down one in that game. 6.7
[7:40] Speaker 1: seconds remaining. Luka 8 for 24 from the field, 2
[7:43] Speaker 1: for 10 from 3, which may explain some of his
[7:46] Speaker 1: reluctance in trying to take that potential game-winning shot. But Gil,
[7:50] Speaker 1: what's your reaction to Luka passing up the potential game-winning
[7:53] Speaker 1: shot in the Lakers' loss to the Magic? As a.
[8:01] Speaker 2: As a game winning expert, you know, um, being two
[8:08] Speaker 2: for 10, um, struggling from the three, struggling from the field,
[8:12] Speaker 2: you know, when, when, when that's what you do hit
[8:16] Speaker 2: game winners, right. All of that, all those stats is
[8:20] Speaker 2: irrelevant to that moment in time.
[8:23] Speaker 1: So, um, it would have.
[8:26] Speaker 2: Been great if he took that shot.
[8:28] Speaker 6: Right.
[8:28] Speaker 2: I know like, The rest of the game kind of,
[8:32] Speaker 2: you know, shook him a little bit, thinking he's too far.
[8:34] Speaker 2: But those are the moments that makes the great players great.
[8:38] Speaker 2: And I just think he just fought too much, right?
[8:43] Speaker 2: And that's all that was, right? I mean, you didn't
[8:46] Speaker 2: have any throw the grenade to LeBron. LeBron going to
[8:48] Speaker 2: try to get it up, you know, himself. You know,
[8:50] Speaker 2: just poor execution. I just probably just overthinking. And what
[8:54] Speaker 2: did you think about the play calling itself? Like I said,
[8:56] Speaker 2: Lakers down one. They had seven seconds.
[8:59] Speaker 1: Remaining in the game did not necessarily need to shoot
[9:01] Speaker 1: a three Luca, obviously struggling from the field in that game,
[9:03] Speaker 1: struggling from three point distance. Was that the ideal play
[9:07] Speaker 1: for the Lakers to try to run, run to win
[9:08] Speaker 1: a game?
[9:10] Speaker 2: Listen, I personally, as a guy who got the ball
[9:15] Speaker 2: at the end of the games, there's a bunch of
[9:18] Speaker 2: plays that I just don't understand coaches call because it, it,
[9:26] Speaker 2: It goes.
[9:27] Speaker 1: Against what you're trying to do, right?
[9:29] Speaker 2: You got zipper up plays where the guard is, you know,
[9:33] Speaker 2: the guard is at the bottom.
[9:34] Speaker 1: And they set the screen and he comes up, right?
[9:37] Speaker 1: The rim is this way.
[9:38] Speaker 2: So I got to come up, get the ball and
[9:41] Speaker 2: then try to turn around to then go back towards
[9:43] Speaker 2: the basket. So I hated all plays that had me
[9:46] Speaker 2: coming from the bottom to the top. Always wanted to
[9:49] Speaker 2: come forward. you know, downhill where I have my speed
[9:51] Speaker 2: and I can see everything. I remember losing a game
[9:55] Speaker 2: to Allen Iverson coming up and he said, I'm gonna
[9:58] Speaker 2: steal it and stole it.
[10:00] Speaker 1: It, made the layup and won the game.
[10:02] Speaker 2: So I personally just don't like certain coaches calling game winners.
[10:07] Speaker 2: Like unless you have a team and you're back going
[10:11] Speaker 2: or something like that, just make it easy, man. Give
[10:14] Speaker 2: it to your best one-on-one guy. Everybody get the fuck
[10:16] Speaker 2: at the baseline. Let him do his job. It doesn't
[10:19] Speaker 2: need to be that complicated. But I don't need to
[10:22] Speaker 2: call 13 screens and moves and back doors and uppercuts. Hey,
[10:31] Speaker 2: Dame James Harden, get the ball at the top. Everybody
[10:33] Speaker 2: get out of their way, go to work. Sometimes it's
[10:36] Speaker 2: just that simple. And I think sometimes coaches overcoach thinking
[10:40] Speaker 2: they need to draw up a great play to get
[10:43] Speaker 2: a great result.
[10:44] Speaker 1: When just give it to your player, just go down
[10:49] Speaker 1: and boom. Right?
[10:49] Speaker 2: If you have a big man and you think they've
[10:51] Speaker 2: been switching all day or they've been missing something all day,
[10:54] Speaker 2: then we like got to call one of those backdoor
[10:56] Speaker 2: lobs because you think they're.
[10:57] Speaker 1: Going to boom. There you go. You know, those are moments.
[11:00] Speaker 2: But for the most part, if you got a guy
[11:02] Speaker 2: who can really get his own, just give him the
[11:03] Speaker 2: ball and just.
[11:06] Speaker 1: For sure. Swaggy, what was your reaction to Luka passing
[11:09] Speaker 1: up the potential game-winning three-pointer?
[11:12] Speaker 3: I actually liked zipper up, Neil.
[11:15] Speaker 1: That was my play.
[11:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:17] Speaker 1: Wait, zipper up? Are you in a corner or are you?
[11:19] Speaker 3: I zipper up and I just do a quick rip through.
[11:21] Speaker 6: I remember I did that in the game.
[11:24] Speaker 3: It's overtime.
[11:24] Speaker 6: It's a play Kobe actually was doing.
[11:28] Speaker 3: He drew it up in the huddle against Chicago.
[11:32] Speaker 1: You like this, you like zipper up?
[11:34] Speaker 2: Like there's always the guy taking all the bounds. He
[11:36] Speaker 2: had denied me or he had jumping halfway. It's like,
[11:40] Speaker 2: I never liked that play.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Or you liked it?
[11:42] Speaker 3: I ran that play a lot. That's why. Cause I
[11:44] Speaker 3: liked it.
[11:44] Speaker 6: On the free throw, whatever that's called.
[11:49] Speaker 3: I can't think of the name.
[11:50] Speaker 1: Zipper up to the empty, empty out the.
[11:52] Speaker 4: Other elbow guy.
[11:54] Speaker 3: I can do it easy.
[11:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. Down to.
[11:59] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[12:00] Speaker 1: You like the zipper up too?
[12:02] Speaker 8: Yeah, especially going to my left.
[12:05] Speaker 1: I don't remember.
[12:08] Speaker 3: You never got zipper ups?
[12:09] Speaker 1: No, no, no. We started the zipper up. Yeah, I
[12:14] Speaker 1: like it.
[12:16] Speaker 6: You called a zipper up for me when you were like,
[12:17] Speaker 6: you don't know about him yet.
[12:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not on the game winner. But I
[12:22] Speaker 2: have the ball inbound. I'm talking about, I mean, I
[12:24] Speaker 2: have the ball, so, you know, I can see it.
[12:26] Speaker 2: When you're taking it out of bounds, and they're zippering up,
[12:30] Speaker 2: the guy who's taking it.
[12:31] Speaker 1: Out of bounds, he's sometimes denied. It's like the nine
[12:34] Speaker 1: switch shit. And then the big comes up, and then.
[12:38] Speaker 3: Yep, and pass it to you.
[12:40] Speaker 1: You got to give it back to the guy who
[12:41] Speaker 1: took the ball out of bounds, Antoine. I know, but
[12:45] Speaker 1: it's usually whoever inbounds it is a scorer, too, though.
[12:48] Speaker 1: Most of the time. Just so you can get it back. Yeah.
[12:56] Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway.
[12:58] Speaker 9: I mean, Antoine. Just give it to option A. You
[13:03] Speaker 9: know what I mean? You ain't got to worry about
[13:06] Speaker 9: option B. All right.
[13:08] Speaker 1: All right.
[13:09] Speaker 3: I got you.
[13:11] Speaker 1: Zipper up a side swag. What was your reaction to
[13:14] Speaker 1: Luca passing up on that opportunity? Luca has a track
[13:17] Speaker 1: record of making game winning shots. Shooting the shot in
[13:20] Speaker 1: those moments. Play call for him. He tried to throw
[13:22] Speaker 1: Brian the grenade.
[13:24] Speaker 6: I don't know. Like Gil said, game of the mind.
[13:28] Speaker 6: All the stats and stuff. You're not really thinking about that. Like,
[13:32] Speaker 6: you're thinking of the moment.
[13:34] Speaker 3: You're obviously thinking you're going to make the shot.
[13:39] Speaker 10: Down one.
[13:39] Speaker 6: I don't know if I go for the three. I
[13:41] Speaker 6: might take something easier. But like I said, man, the
[13:45] Speaker 6: Lakers are dangerous. they're the best of the ass teams, man.
[13:49] Speaker 3: They like, they.
[13:53] Speaker 6: Having a hard time still trying to figure out the
[13:55] Speaker 6: big three. They are coming back and he's playing with
[13:58] Speaker 6: LeBron and Luka.
[13:59] Speaker 3: They all look out of sync. So, I don't like it.
[14:04] Speaker 3: I don't like it.
[14:06] Speaker 1: Let's move on to you, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. What
[14:09] Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Luka passing up the potential game
[14:11] Speaker 1: winning shot?
[14:12] Speaker 8: Man, you know, told y'all it's that panic button.
[14:17] Speaker 1: Um, You know, they should have been pushing. You know,
[14:19] Speaker 1: they need to be pushing that padding button.
[14:21] Speaker 8: That's not like him to be passing up game winners.
[14:26] Speaker 8: But maybe it was his shot, the fact that he
[14:28] Speaker 8: was off. But that's not like Luka to be passing
[14:30] Speaker 8: up game winners.
[14:33] Speaker 1: And finally, to the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, future
[14:37] Speaker 1: Laker fan, Kenya Martin. What do you think about Luka
[14:41] Speaker 1: passing up that opportunity, putting Brown in a bad spot
[14:44] Speaker 1: to try and throw up some bullshit to win the game? Yeah.
[14:52] Speaker 1: He made Bron look bad, Gil. It's okay. You can
[14:54] Speaker 1: admit it.
[14:55] Speaker 4: No, but I just don't. But I just don't. Yeah,
[14:58] Speaker 4: I just don't like. I don't like the bullshit he
[15:01] Speaker 4: said after the game. Like, damn the shot. Okay, you
[15:03] Speaker 4: pass it up. Okay, cool.
[15:05] Speaker 5: They've been trying to sell us the shit too far. Like, dude,
[15:08] Speaker 5: we just seen you shoot the ball from a lot
[15:09] Speaker 5: further than that.
[15:10] Speaker 1: So.
[15:11] Speaker 5: Like, don't try to sell us that shit was too far.
[15:14] Speaker 5: You were a foot behind the three-point line. Like, don't
[15:17] Speaker 5: do that. Like, you froze up. That's what it is.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Like, you froze up in the moment. And you threw,
[15:25] Speaker 4: like y'all say, you threw LeBron that grenade. And it
[15:28] Speaker 4: would have been hell if LeBron would have threw it
[15:30] Speaker 4: back to him.
[15:32] Speaker 2: Right?
[15:33] Speaker 5: Like, so that's, hey, I'm going to turn the favor. Like, hey,
[15:38] Speaker 5: I seen it. I seen it before. So you throw
[15:40] Speaker 5: him the ball, you throw it back to him.
[15:42] Speaker 4: Like, nah, that's on you, bruh. We ain't doing that.
[15:46] Speaker 5: Like, but nah, it froze up in the moment and
[15:49] Speaker 5: trying to sell us some bullshit on the backside. Like, nah,
[15:53] Speaker 5: we saw what it was, bruh. Like, you shoot the
[15:58] Speaker 5: ball from a lot further than that. And like Gil stated,
[16:01] Speaker 5: like Swag said, and Like, you, when you're that guy
[16:06] Speaker 5: and the game is on the line, your stats don't matter. Like,
[16:11] Speaker 5: you can have a horrible game, but when the game
[16:13] Speaker 5: on the line, you're supposed to rise to that occasion.
[16:16] Speaker 5: Because other guys that's in that situation, the number one
[16:19] Speaker 5: guys do. So, they put the ball in your hand
[16:22] Speaker 5: for a reason. The ball's in your hand, but the
[16:25] Speaker 5: clock running down for a reason. So, you froze up
[16:30] Speaker 5: in the moment.
[16:31] Speaker 1: It's all right.
[16:32] Speaker 4: Happens to the best of them.
[16:35] Speaker 1: So, Swaggy, like you mentioned, Lakers, in your words, the
[16:38] Speaker 1: best of the ass teams in the NBA right now.
[16:41] Speaker 1: So after a hot start, we saw Lakers amongst the
[16:43] Speaker 1: top teams in the West. They have struggled as of late.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Purple and Gold went 4-4 in their eight-game homestand, dropping
[16:49] Speaker 1: four of their last six games. Losses to the Thunder, Spurs, Celtics,
[16:53] Speaker 1: and this magic loss Tuesday night. Wins over the Mavs
[16:57] Speaker 1: and Clippers. That Clippers game got a little... shaky too
[16:59] Speaker 1: with a sideline out of bounds play late in the
[17:01] Speaker 1: game with Brown trying to toss it across the court
[17:03] Speaker 1: to Luka. Ended up potentially tricking the game off between Mr.
[17:07] Speaker 3: Three.
[17:10] Speaker 5: And Gil, to your point about the zipper up, we
[17:13] Speaker 5: lost two games in the Western Conference Finals to the
[17:15] Speaker 5: Lakers on that bullshit.
[17:18] Speaker 1: Out of bounds?
[17:19] Speaker 4: Out of bounds? Out of bounds.
[17:20] Speaker 5: They're trying to zip a mellow up. They just jumped
[17:22] Speaker 5: out there and took it away. So to your point,
[17:27] Speaker 5: Put the shit out, throw the ball to Melo on
[17:28] Speaker 5: the block, get the fuck out the way, you know
[17:30] Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Like, that's what it should be.
[17:31] Speaker 1: Like, I mean, like, the zipper up on, like, the
[17:33] Speaker 1: guard brings it down. It's a point to zipper up. Yeah,
[17:36] Speaker 1: that's the D-Wade. Because you got.
[17:39] Speaker 4: To set defense. It's tough, man.
[17:41] Speaker 5: Special game on the line, and you know you got
[17:42] Speaker 5: to be playing a good defensive team, and they been,
[17:44] Speaker 5: they scheme well, and they know where the, they know
[17:47] Speaker 5: where we're trying to go with the ball because we
[17:49] Speaker 5: didn't have any out-of-bounds plays like that. So we never
[17:52] Speaker 5: worked on in-the-game situations, not like, other plays other than
[17:56] Speaker 5: run the zipper mellow.
[17:57] Speaker 4: Up and give him the damn ball.
[17:58] Speaker 1: Like, no. Yeah, I was just.
[18:00] Speaker 2: Looking at the play where, so I got one stolen
[18:03] Speaker 2: zipper up and then.
[18:04] Speaker 1: I was like, you know what? I don't want to
[18:05] Speaker 1: come up. So put me on the side and then
[18:08] Speaker 1: scream right here and I can go like this. Right?
[18:12] Speaker 1: And while he's trying to pass it, I'm still trying
[18:14] Speaker 1: to hurry up and turn. And I ran right through it.
[18:18] Speaker 4: I remember that game.
[18:20] Speaker 1: And then that's when I said, put me at half court.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Let me come down. There we go. Let's try that way.
[18:26] Speaker 6: They should have passed it in to somebody and let
[18:29] Speaker 6: you zip.
[18:31] Speaker 1: Up after.
[18:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:34] Speaker 1: They did have seven seconds. Yeah, you know, play like this.
[18:39] Speaker 2: Just by looking at the look of play, when you
[18:41] Speaker 2: really look at it, he probably got shocked that he
[18:45] Speaker 2: was that open. He probably figured out, okay, they're going
[18:49] Speaker 2: to jump switch. You're going to go down. I'm going
[18:51] Speaker 2: to do my thing. And then he got stuck on him.
[18:55] Speaker 2: One got stuck here. One's in the back. And then
[18:59] Speaker 2: he probably tried to dribble.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Then from there, just all.
[19:04] Speaker 5: And Bron a hell of a teammate too for selling
[19:06] Speaker 5: us the bullshit as well.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:09] Speaker 4: Cut out balance, lost his foot a little bit like
[19:11] Speaker 4: you fumbled it. Like, no, Bron. Like, we get it. Like,
[19:14] Speaker 4: you're a hell of a teammate for looking out for
[19:16] Speaker 4: your man, but.
[19:18] Speaker 1: Didn't feel like a particularly genuine answer from LeBron. I'll
[19:21] Speaker 1: just say that watching the post-game press conference. Yeah, he
[19:24] Speaker 1: was scrambling. Yeah, but he's been visibly frustrated in those situations.
[19:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[19:29] Speaker 5: Can you put him in a horrible spot?
[19:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, you should throw him a live one.
[19:35] Speaker 1: Picking up his numbers. But back to these Lakers quickly.
[19:39] Speaker 4: Now that goes on his game-winning thing.
[19:40] Speaker 1: Now that goes on his stats.
[19:42] Speaker 5: For game winners on the negative side because you threw
[19:46] Speaker 5: him that damn live one.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Helping support and pushing there. the anti-bron narrative. But Lakers,
[19:51] Speaker 1: 11-12 in their last 23 games, also continue to struggle
[19:55] Speaker 1: against playoff-caliber teams. It gets worse, Kenya. 11-12 in their
[19:59] Speaker 1: last 23. They are 1-11 against the top seven teams
[20:03] Speaker 1: in the league right now. 0-2 against the Thunder. 0-1
[20:05] Speaker 1: against the Pistons. 1-3 against the Spurs. 0-2 against the Celtics.
[20:09] Speaker 1: 0-1 against the Knicks, 0-1 against the Cavs, and 0-1
[20:12] Speaker 1: against the Rockets. So Gil, lifelong Lakers fan since 1996.
[20:17] Speaker 5: Okay, first of all. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[20:21] Speaker 5: I'm going to let you go. I just got one
[20:24] Speaker 5: thing to say. All that stuff that you just stated, Josiah,
[20:29] Speaker 5: that sounds like a first-round exit.
[20:31] Speaker 1: Go.
[20:33] Speaker 2: Really?
[20:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. Might not get there.
[20:36] Speaker 5: Might not get it, but they're in six, so if
[20:39] Speaker 5: they can hold on, and they.
[20:40] Speaker 4: Hold on about three. You know what I'm saying?
[20:42] Speaker 1: There's so many games that went on today. What is
[20:46] Speaker 1: all this Lakers? I mean, we need to talk about it.
[20:51] Speaker 4: Oh, any other time you want to talk about them first.
[20:53] Speaker 1: Right, we need to talk about it. Yeah, we got
[20:55] Speaker 1: to discuss it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
[20:58] Speaker 1: I haven't talked about the Lakers none.
[21:02] Speaker 4: They've been losing.
[21:03] Speaker 1: Huh?
[21:04] Speaker 4: Because y'all been losing.
[21:05] Speaker 1: No, because I see what we have.
[21:07] Speaker 4: We got trade deadline.
[21:08] Speaker 1: We didn't get nobody. You didn't see me say nothing. No, no, no. No, no, no.
[21:15] Speaker 4: A few days ago, you was talking about who they
[21:17] Speaker 4: all got. Luke Kennard.
[21:19] Speaker 10: Yeah.
[21:19] Speaker 4: You was praising Luke.
[21:21] Speaker 2: You was praising him a couple days ago.
[21:24] Speaker 4: But then you backpedaled.
[21:26] Speaker 1: And he shoot one three a game.
[21:27] Speaker 4: Then you backpedaled. Then you backpedaled.
[21:30] Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Lakers.
[21:32] Speaker 4: Yes, we're talking about the Lakers.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Yes, right now.
[21:34] Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.
[21:34] Speaker 1: Let's talk. No, let's talk. No, let's talk. No, let's talk.
[21:38] Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's going on with your team.
[21:39] Speaker 5: Because Brandon did say it was time to listen. Brandon
[21:42] Speaker 5: did say that it was time to hit the panic button.
[21:46] Speaker 1: Brandon, what's the question? We're blue blockers in the house.
[21:51] Speaker 2: Right. Right.
[21:52] Speaker 1: Okay, so about the Lakers. About the Lakers.
[21:59] Speaker 2: That's where we're going today. Like, there's so many positive things,
[22:02] Speaker 2: like Kaminga. We're talking Kaminga later in the show, Gil.
[22:06] Speaker 2: This is a full-slated Gil's Virtual Arena. We have several
[22:09] Speaker 2: things to discuss. Yeah, we are not talking about that.
[22:12] Speaker 2: With the new beat, hey, you know what I mean?
[22:15] Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that was, you know. But, okay,
[22:18] Speaker 2: since we want to talk about the Lakers.
[22:19] Speaker 3: What was your question?
[22:22] Speaker 1: I did not get to ask you that because you interjected.
[22:27] Speaker 1: How concerning are the Lakers' recent struggles and continued struggles
[22:31] Speaker 1: against the top teams in the league? Two-parter. Obviously, it's
[22:38] Speaker 1: always a concern that you can't beat.
[22:41] Speaker 2: the top teams because that's who you're going to face
[22:44] Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Last time I checked, you know, you
[22:47] Speaker 2: don't play the bottom teams in the playoffs.
[22:49] Speaker 1: You play the top teams in the playoffs.
[22:51] Speaker 2: So the fact that you don't have their number yet
[22:54] Speaker 2: or even figured either one of them out where you're like, ooh,
[22:58] Speaker 2: I can't wait to play against them in the playoffs.
[23:01] Speaker 2: So the fact that you don't have that is concerning,
[23:05] Speaker 2: but we always have a plan, right?
[23:07] Speaker 5: Absolutely.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Look, where we're sitting at right now, yeah, we don't
[23:12] Speaker 2: like that position. We didn't like five because five has a.
[23:18] Speaker 1: Guy by the name of Jokic.
[23:20] Speaker 2: We don't want to play against him in the playoffs,
[23:22] Speaker 2: so we don't want five at all. We don't want
[23:25] Speaker 2: four at all because four means Jokic is at five. So, therefore,
[23:32] Speaker 2: we got to move. We got to lose a little bit, right.
[23:36] Speaker 1: To get to six. Now six has Kevin Durant. Maybe.
[23:43] Speaker 1: Maybe not. Maybe. Maybe not.
[23:46] Speaker 2: I think we're going to settle with seven. We're going
[23:50] Speaker 2: to ride out seven again for the third year in
[23:52] Speaker 2: a row.
[23:53] Speaker 1: Seven has a Victor Womble Womble in that first one.
[23:56] Speaker 2: We're going to deal with the young boys. See, if
[23:59] Speaker 2: you ain't noticed for a long time, we always in
[24:02] Speaker 2: seven playing against the number two seed, right? And it's
[24:05] Speaker 2: usually a young, young, little whippersnappers. And we get them.
[24:09] Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't get them last year. But we
[24:11] Speaker 2: usually get them, the Memphises and all of that. So
[24:15] Speaker 2: we would rather probably play The Spurs, the first round,
[24:19] Speaker 2: because the other.
[24:21] Speaker 1: Teams, yeah, the other ones, they got champions. They got
[24:26] Speaker 1: champions on the teams. And, yeah, we're not bad. Lakers,
[24:30] Speaker 1: one and three against the Spurs this season so far.
[24:32] Speaker 1: One and three. One and three?
[24:35] Speaker 11: What are we against the Denver Nuggets? One and O
[24:39] Speaker 11: against the Nuggets, Gil, on a positive. You know what
[24:47] Speaker 11: that is.
[24:48] Speaker 1: You're right. Let me not be delusional. We're going to
[24:51] Speaker 1: go to seven.
[24:53] Speaker 3: You're going to play Spurs over Denver?
[24:55] Speaker 12: Listen, they're going to end up not getting the playoffs.
[25:00] Speaker 5: Burping babies, man. You don't want to see him. He's
[25:02] Speaker 5: still burping babies out here.
[25:04] Speaker 2: I always want to play a young team in the
[25:08] Speaker 2: playoffs with LeBron James and Luka because you get those calls.
[25:13] Speaker 8: The only reason why y'all getting saved right now is
[25:19] Speaker 8: because the other teams around y'all are playing like trash too,
[25:21] Speaker 8: the last 10 years.
[25:22] Speaker 1: That's the only reason why y'all where y'all at. Everybody
[25:24] Speaker 1: was playing well. Everybody's been playing bad the last 10 years.
[25:28] Speaker 1: That's the only reason why you guys are safe right now.
[25:30] Speaker 1: If everybody was playing well, the Lakers be playing well too.
[25:33] Speaker 4: Seven come with a play in.
[25:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We beat them, then we get to seven.
[25:39] Speaker 1: We play first. We've been doing it. We did it
[25:41] Speaker 1: every year so far. Seven is us. Kenyon, they're going
[25:45] Speaker 1: to be outside the playoffs in a minute. Tell me.
[25:48] Speaker 1: Y'all said this last two years and it didn't happen.
[25:49] Speaker 1: You better hit that panic button.
[25:52] Speaker 3: Nah, we can't.
[25:52] Speaker 1: Nah, we're going to make the playoffs now. Come on, Brandon.
[25:55] Speaker 3: The playoffs.
[25:56] Speaker 4: All right. Sound like a first-round exit. Sound like a
[25:59] Speaker 4: first-round exit to me.
[26:01] Speaker 3: We're going to lose first round.
[26:03] Speaker 4: Finishing 6, 7, 8.
[26:04] Speaker 1: It's going to be a sweep. Yeah, absolutely.
[26:07] Speaker 4: They're getting swept.
[26:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, the NBA is going to allow the Lakers to
[26:10] Speaker 2: get swept.
[26:11] Speaker 4: Okay.
[26:11] Speaker 1: The NBA is going to allow the Lakers to get swept. Okay. Yes.
[26:15] Speaker 4: What happened last year?
[26:16] Speaker 1: NBC not allowing that, Mr. B. You already know the
[26:18] Speaker 1: rules of regulation.
[26:19] Speaker 4: How many games y'all won against Minnesota?
[26:22] Speaker 1: There were close games in that series, Kane. They were
[26:24] Speaker 1: very close.
[26:24] Speaker 4: How many games y'all won against Minnesota?
[26:26] Speaker 1: Barkley and Warner and them. That's why they out.
[26:30] Speaker 4: Oh, they were just trying to get it off there? Yeah,
[26:32] Speaker 4: they don't know the script.
[26:33] Speaker 2: They don't know how much money they lost with that
[26:35] Speaker 2: playoff script. That playoff script, they lost so much money there.
[26:39] Speaker 1: NBC had to come in. Let me show you how
[26:41] Speaker 1: to make millions. Not this year. Not this year. Sell
[26:44] Speaker 1: the game. Insights to excellence. Sell the game. Yeah. Ernie
[26:50] Speaker 1: lineups back. I mean, it's a beautiful time. But let's
[26:53] Speaker 1: move on to you, Kenyon. Like I said, not the
[26:55] Speaker 1: biggest Lakers fan here on Gil's Virtual Arena presented by
[26:57] Speaker 1: Underdog Woo Woo. Put your neutral basketball analyst cap on.
[27:02] Speaker 1: How concerning are the Lakers' recent struggles and continued struggles
[27:05] Speaker 1: against the top teams in the league?
[27:08] Speaker 4: Like I stated, it sounded like a first-round exit.
[27:10] Speaker 5: So to Gil's point, you don't play the team that's
[27:14] Speaker 5: behind you in the playoffs. You play the team that's
[27:17] Speaker 5: in front of you. And with that said, good luck.
[27:25] Speaker 5: But yeah, no, it's just one of those things, man.
[27:27] Speaker 5: It's the ebb and flows of the NBA season. You
[27:30] Speaker 5: guys got off to a hot start. So did a
[27:33] Speaker 5: few other teams that came back to reality. I think
[27:36] Speaker 5: this is your guys' reality that you are a lower,
[27:42] Speaker 5: like Nick said, you do the best of the ass team.
[27:45] Speaker 5: So I think that is the reality that six, seven,
[27:49] Speaker 5: eight around those seeds are fitting for y'all, right?
[27:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[27:54] Speaker 4: And hoping and.
[27:58] Speaker 5: You know where that gets you, but hoping that the
[28:01] Speaker 5: right matchup falls in in the higher C that gives
[28:05] Speaker 5: you guys a chance. Um, it hasn't worked out in
[28:09] Speaker 5: you guys' favor the last few years. Um, and I
[28:13] Speaker 5: see that trend continuing. Um, yeah, because in the playoffs,
[28:18] Speaker 5: you gotta get stops, man. You gotta have guys on
[28:20] Speaker 5: the floor that can get stops. And the people that
[28:24] Speaker 5: you guys play consistently that you guys have to rely
[28:27] Speaker 5: on to put the ball in the basket, it's not
[28:30] Speaker 5: their strong, um, It's not one of the strong attributes. So, yeah,
[28:36] Speaker 5: it's going to be tough sledding in the playoffs if
[28:39] Speaker 5: you guys were to get in. So it's just the
[28:42] Speaker 5: wrong time of the season to have that. But it's
[28:44] Speaker 5: time to get it back, though. There's still games to
[28:47] Speaker 5: play to right the ship, to be on the high
[28:49] Speaker 5: going into the playoffs.
[28:50] Speaker 4: So we'll see. We'll see.
[28:54] Speaker 1: Can you, like you always say, we know where Hub
[28:56] Speaker 1: works at, but is it possible for Hub to get
[28:57] Speaker 1: her GED, clean her life up, hit community college?
[29:02] Speaker 4: No, I'm saying she had somebody come in there and
[29:04] Speaker 4: save her. You know what I'm saying?
[29:05] Speaker 1: Hope can improve her life.
[29:07] Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. Somebody came in there, they liked what they saw.
[29:09] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? They gave her an opportunity.
[29:13] Speaker 5: I bought her some Reebok, you know what I'm saying?
[29:16] Speaker 4: I bought her some Reebok plastics.
[29:21] Speaker 1: Move on to you, Swaggy. On the fence, Laker fan.
[29:25] Speaker 1: How concerned is Laker's recent struggles?
[29:28] Speaker 3: Is it? I don't know.
[29:32] Speaker 1: Like, I'm waiting for Luka, for Daddy Luka to show up.
[29:36] Speaker 3: And I keep down where it works, teammates. than Dallas.
[29:40] Speaker 6: He took teams further with less talent. And I'm waiting
[29:46] Speaker 6: for that to show up in a Laker uniform.
[29:49] Speaker 1: That's all. I think Luka leading the league in scoring,
[29:52] Speaker 1: but are you saying you haven't seen from Luka what
[29:54] Speaker 1: he was able to execute with the Mavs? I mean,
[29:55] Speaker 1: this is his team now. It's been well documented.
[29:59] Speaker 6: I know he's going to score, but I feel like
[30:04] Speaker 6: he just did.
[30:04] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[30:06] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[30:08] Speaker 5: So, Gil, what would you like the roster to look like, Gil? Like,
[30:12] Speaker 5: you know, like, what would you like? Like, what would
[30:16] Speaker 5: you like? Like, let's be realistic. Like, what would you
[30:19] Speaker 5: like for the roster to look like? Like, just certain
[30:22] Speaker 5: guys that you would think that would fit how Luka plays,
[30:25] Speaker 5: because he is the future, right? So, surrounding guys like
[30:28] Speaker 5: around Luka that.
[30:30] Speaker 2: So, I need my starting center and my backup center
[30:35] Speaker 2: as a rim runner.
[30:36] Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Right.
[30:38] Speaker 2: Which is kind of the most important part. Somebody who
[30:41] Speaker 2: can challenge everything at the rim. And, you know, that's
[30:45] Speaker 2: just a big lob threat. When it comes to.
[30:53] Speaker 3: Sorry.
[30:55] Speaker 1: It's the workers. You know, like when they.
[31:01] Speaker 2: You know, because, you know, here, you know, in the HOA,
[31:04] Speaker 2: we don't do none of our trash or none of
[31:06] Speaker 2: our lawn.
[31:06] Speaker 1: They do it. It's paid for. Hey, can y'all shut up?
[31:12] Speaker 1: I find it very convenient that the garters only come Tuesday, Wednesday,
[31:16] Speaker 1: Thursday between 1130 and Pacific and 2 p.m. No, no,
[31:20] Speaker 1: they come every day because it's a neighborhood. So the
[31:23] Speaker 1: way it's paid, they come every day, trash, cleaning. Yeah,
[31:26] Speaker 1: they take care of everything. You just get to chill.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't touch trash. I don't physically do that.
[31:32] Speaker 2: It's mad. Yeah, so me, me, rim runner, right? I
[31:40] Speaker 2: need another one-on-one guy and then shooters.
[31:46] Speaker 1: Like, I don't need no three.
[31:47] Speaker 2: The way Luka plays, you have someone that's on the
[31:52] Speaker 2: court that can't shoot.
[31:53] Speaker 1: It kind of hurts him a little bit. You know
[31:56] Speaker 1: what I mean? So, like, if you have a Vandal
[31:58] Speaker 1: and even a Marcus.
[31:59] Speaker 2: Smart, like, you can't have those guys because if he
[32:05] Speaker 2: can't have the advantage and he's passive, that means something
[32:09] Speaker 2: happened and that shot is for you.
[32:12] Speaker 1: Right? So, you know, he needs that.
[32:15] Speaker 10: Actually, most of the Euros need that.
[32:19] Speaker 1: They like those rim runners and then, you know, that
[32:22] Speaker 1: four-out look.
[32:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, because you need a... So the four, like.
[32:29] Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, like, can do both, right?
[32:32] Speaker 1: Yes.
[32:32] Speaker 5: He's at the rim, and he can play in the dunker,
[32:34] Speaker 5: he can go at the rim, he can go to three. Like, yeah,
[32:37] Speaker 5: so guys, yeah, so fitting like that in different positions,
[32:39] Speaker 5: I think, yeah, it fits them, but.
[32:41] Speaker 1: Just like Jokic. It's tough, yeah.
[32:43] Speaker 3: Right?
[32:43] Speaker 1: You know, the dunker, then everybody shoots.
[32:47] Speaker 4: Like, I understand, man, that's the way the game is now.
[32:51] Speaker 1: Like, you have a.
[32:52] Speaker 5: You have a main guy that's ball dominant, that dictates things.
[32:55] Speaker 1: And all that.
[32:57] Speaker 2: But....
[33:01] Speaker 5: It's very rare, man, where that ball ain't moving and
[33:05] Speaker 5: guys ain't in the rhythm. It's very rare, man. You
[33:07] Speaker 5: have success, man. And, and to have the numbers that
[33:14] Speaker 5: he has put up year in, year out and made
[33:19] Speaker 5: it to one finals playing that way.
[33:23] Speaker 3: Right.
[33:23] Speaker 4: It just does something need to change? Like, is it,
[33:30] Speaker 4: So I'm not, leading the team in scoring and assists, right?
[33:35] Speaker 4: Leading the team in scoring and assists, right? Yeah, cool.
[33:37] Speaker 5: It's excellent when you think about it. In retrospect, it's excellent.
[33:42] Speaker 5: Leading the team in scoring and assists.
[33:43] Speaker 3: That's a lot of trying to figure out.
[33:47] Speaker 5: I'm a firm believer in averaging nine assists, right? You're
[33:55] Speaker 5: so good and you're so dominant and you're such a
[33:58] Speaker 5: good scorer. averaging 30 and 9, let's.
[34:05] Speaker 4: Average 25 and 13, right? I think that helps.
[34:13] Speaker 5: I think that helps the rest of, like, some of
[34:17] Speaker 5: them badass step-back threes and shit that he takes.
[34:19] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, ah, yeah. Like,
[34:24] Speaker 4: so let's be more efficient, right? Like, in your approach.
[34:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[34:30] Speaker 4: I just don't think the way he plays is going
[34:37] Speaker 4: to get it done.
[34:39] Speaker 1: I can go to 24.
[34:40] Speaker 2: I always listen to that idea. You take points away
[34:48] Speaker 2: from your star player, but then you give them to who?
[34:51] Speaker 4: If they was capable of it, I wouldn't even be
[34:54] Speaker 4: averaging as much.
[35:00] Speaker 1: When Kobe averaged 35, right?
[35:03] Speaker 4: Yes, he had to.
[35:04] Speaker 2: We can look at that team today and say, hey, Kobe,
[35:07] Speaker 2: you averaged 25.
[35:08] Speaker 1: Somebody else is about to average 10.
[35:10] Speaker 2: There was nobody on there that can actually jump their
[35:12] Speaker 2: production up double.
[35:13] Speaker 1: I understand. He can defer a couple points there and
[35:18] Speaker 1: move them there.
[35:19] Speaker 2: But, you know, if a dude averaging 35, that says
[35:22] Speaker 2: more about the team than it does him.
[35:24] Speaker 6: You know, Lamar could average an extra five.
[35:28] Speaker 4: I get that.
[35:29] Speaker 10: Lamar Odom.
[35:32] Speaker 1: He could have.
[35:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, he was cold now. Don't say he wasn't now.
[35:36] Speaker 1: He was. He was six, man. Okay, but.
[35:41] Speaker 2: He was an unfair fish player that didn't take a
[35:45] Speaker 2: lot of shots because he played team basketball.
[35:49] Speaker 3: And wasn't Ruffalo on that team?
[35:52] Speaker 6: And then that started happening in 20 once he came
[35:54] Speaker 6: to the Wizards.
[35:55] Speaker 1: Come on. Not that year. Not that year.
[36:01] Speaker 4: I don't think he was on the team when he
[36:03] Speaker 4: averaged 35.
[36:03] Speaker 2: When we got Caron and Chucky Atkins and them, and we.
[36:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:10] Speaker 2: That's when he started averaging that.
[36:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
[36:13] Speaker 1: When he got everybody.
[36:16] Speaker 5: In certain situations, I do agree with that. Yeah, some teams, guys,
[36:20] Speaker 5: you have to put that ball in the basket the
[36:23] Speaker 5: way the roster's made up.
[36:27] Speaker 1: It's just.
[36:28] Speaker 4: I see a lot of bad shots.
[36:31] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[36:31] Speaker 2: Right?
[36:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:33] Speaker 5: And those bad shots, it could be a swing-swing situation
[36:38] Speaker 5: for someone. It's one of the things I'm thinking about. Like,
[36:40] Speaker 5: me thinking about real hooping, real winning basketball, right? Instead
[36:44] Speaker 5: of me shooting this 27, 28-foot step back, let.
[36:48] Speaker 4: Me get in the paint and make a play, right?
[36:50] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[36:51] Speaker 5: Let me do that five times instead of them five
[36:54] Speaker 5: step backs that I'm going to shoot.
[36:55] Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. They might resort an assist. They
[36:58] Speaker 4: might not resort to an assist or play being made.
[37:00] Speaker 4: But that shit is demoralizing at times for guys on
[37:06] Speaker 4: the floor. Like, you doing so much, and you want
[37:08] Speaker 4: to compete, and you want to win, and I know
[37:10] Speaker 4: I'm not going to get the looks that another person
[37:12] Speaker 4: is going to get, and you shoot that bullshit. Like,
[37:16] Speaker 4: all right, dude.
[37:18] Speaker 5: Like, that shit, like, it does some to teams. I
[37:20] Speaker 5: ain't saying that's what happened with the Lakers, but it
[37:21] Speaker 5: does some to guys at times. And to not feel
[37:25] Speaker 5: involved offensively when you, I ain't saying, listen, just every
[37:28] Speaker 5: now and again, hey, drive that motherfucker. I might have
[37:31] Speaker 5: to drop kick that bitch up there to get it
[37:33] Speaker 5: up there. But, hey, I got it on the rim.
[37:39] Speaker 5: I'm saying reward a nigga sometime. That's all, like, instead
[37:42] Speaker 5: of shooting at, getting the.
[37:43] Speaker 4: Paint, make a play, it might come back to you.
[37:46] Speaker 5: Like, you got in the play, you replace, they swing
[37:48] Speaker 5: and swing at you, and it might come back to you.
[37:51] Speaker 5: And it's a better look than that bad step back.
[37:55] Speaker 2: Remember I said that, I said, like, the plays we had,
[37:59] Speaker 2: some of the shots that are taken are just bad
[38:01] Speaker 2: basketball shots.
[38:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[38:05] Speaker 2: Like, I know what you're talking about when it comes
[38:07] Speaker 2: to how some of these guys play. Like, y'all don't
[38:11] Speaker 2: know nothing about probably 2K basketball, And they got the
[38:15] Speaker 2: comp and the pros. It's basically, you got one guy,
[38:18] Speaker 2: big man, they set a pick and roll. And then
[38:21] Speaker 2: everybody else sits in the corner. You shoot it only
[38:24] Speaker 2: if you're open. If not, give it back to the
[38:26] Speaker 2: point guard. You can do pick and roll. So the
[38:28] Speaker 2: point guard himself usually has about 50 points, 14, 16 assists.
[38:33] Speaker 2: Everybody else is like five for five, three for five.
[38:35] Speaker 1: Like, no, this is not, no, no, no. Give up
[38:39] Speaker 1: the rock, all right? I'm not a corner dude, right?
[38:41] Speaker 1: I've never been a corner dude.
[38:42] Speaker 2: And if I'm going to be a corner dude, I
[38:44] Speaker 2: better be a corner dude to a dude that can
[38:45] Speaker 2: do it faster. Like some of these guys need to
[38:50] Speaker 2: understand this.
[38:54] Speaker 1: I would, let's say I'm the fourth option.
[38:58] Speaker 2: I would rather be the fourth option with the 2017-2018
[39:02] Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors.
[39:06] Speaker 1: Like, I would rather play.
[39:09] Speaker 2: With Steph and KD and Klay than play second option
[39:14] Speaker 2: to some of these guys. Because how slow they play.
[39:19] Speaker 2: If you're passing, taking shots like, you know, Klay... Score
[39:23] Speaker 2: 60 with 11 dribbles. You know how many possessions he's
[39:27] Speaker 2: putting in the game?
[39:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, man. yes.
[39:30] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[39:31] Speaker 1: Like, we would have done went up, back, down. Look,
[39:33] Speaker 1: we got the guy. Hold on, hold on.
[39:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[39:41] Speaker 1: The step back.
[39:42] Speaker 4: Like, they don't do that.
[39:43] Speaker 2: Motherfucker, do it the first fucking five seconds of the game.
[39:45] Speaker 1: So they can come down, shoot, we can come back
[39:47] Speaker 1: on offense.
[39:48] Speaker 4: Yeah, and getting the ball out.
[39:50] Speaker 3: Of the head.
[39:50] Speaker 8: Getting the ball up, throwing it in the head, right?
[39:54] Speaker 4: Getting the ball out, throwing it.
[39:56] Speaker 5: So a guy like Vanderbilt, right, if he is going
[39:58] Speaker 5: to play, and y'all need him because of the defense
[40:01] Speaker 5: that he plays, he gets extra possessions, offensive rebounds, things
[40:04] Speaker 5: like that. Why not kick the ball ahead to him
[40:09] Speaker 5: on the right wing and let him go left and
[40:11] Speaker 5: get in the play?
[40:11] Speaker 4: Like, kick the ball ahead to him.
[40:13] Speaker 5: Let him catch the ball on the move and do
[40:15] Speaker 5: what he does well is attack the rim. Give him
[40:19] Speaker 5: those opportunities because you need him on the floor because
[40:22] Speaker 5: he is a good defender and he does extra things.
[40:25] Speaker 5: Make him feel involved all the time. Instead of getting it,
[40:27] Speaker 5: drumming that bitch up every single possession.
[40:30] Speaker 1: It's... Walk it, too. You walking it up.
[40:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's... Now you force him to be a shooter.
[40:37] Speaker 3: But with that, can Luka be a spot-up shooter, though?
[40:40] Speaker 3: Can Luka give it up and be a spot-up shooter?
[40:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:43] Speaker 1: That's the thing.
[40:44] Speaker 3: I've never seen it.
[40:46] Speaker 1: No, because he needs... No, I'm not asking him to
[40:48] Speaker 1: be there.
[40:49] Speaker 6: But if you give it up and he make a play,
[40:51] Speaker 6: Luka would have to move a lot to the corner
[40:54] Speaker 6: or move his body and be a spot-up shooter.
[40:56] Speaker 3: He used to step back from having the ball.
[40:58] Speaker 4: In his hand. No, you put him and make him... Like....
[41:06] Speaker 5: I ain't saying he ought to play like Steph, but
[41:09] Speaker 5: put him in situations, back screens and shit.
[41:11] Speaker 4: Like, make his ass move. Get off the ball, man. Like,
[41:14] Speaker 4: the ball need to move at times. Put him in situations,
[41:18] Speaker 4: back screen, down screen. Make a defense, make decisions and
[41:20] Speaker 4: slips and put him in a pose. Like, I'm just, like,
[41:24] Speaker 4: make his ass be active.
[41:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[41:27] Speaker 5: That makes, like, you, so that's all. Like, you can't
[41:30] Speaker 5: just continue to run the same shit.
[41:33] Speaker 1: For sure.
[41:33] Speaker 5: Game in, game out, game in, game out, playoff series,
[41:35] Speaker 5: that playoff. People figure that shit out, bro. Like, they're
[41:38] Speaker 5: not going to continue to let you do the same thing.
[41:40] Speaker 1: The more movement he's doing and the more he's getting
[41:42] Speaker 1: his teammates open, he's going to be open. We did.
[41:44] Speaker 3: We had 83.
[41:44] Speaker 1: We had 83. We had 83 shots yesterday.
[41:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:46] Speaker 4: To their 90, to their 90, 93.
[41:47] Speaker 1: So 10 less shots. 10 less possessions. You know what
[41:49] Speaker 1: I'm saying? Yeah.
[41:49] Speaker 13: How many turnovers you guys have? I just want to
[42:02] Speaker 13: see how many shots.
[42:03] Speaker 1: It was crazy. That's how Steph get open. Because he
[42:05] Speaker 1: be back screening and doing all that for everybody else.
[42:08] Speaker 4: He understand.
[42:09] Speaker 1: He moves.
[42:11] Speaker 4: I ain't saying you got to move as fast as him,
[42:14] Speaker 4: but same action. Same actions.
[42:16] Speaker 3: That's all. Too damn slow to be doing all that.
[42:20] Speaker 4: No, make defeat. Because, dude, listen, man. They playing against
[42:24] Speaker 4: a lot of young, dumb basketball players, man. They will
[42:27] Speaker 4: mess it up. Listen, you set enough screens and you
[42:30] Speaker 4: slip enough, they're going to start overreacting to the back door.
[42:34] Speaker 4: Trust me. You go back door enough.
[42:36] Speaker 6: I'm just thinking about Luka's game. That's why I think
[42:40] Speaker 6: about Luka's game.
[42:41] Speaker 3: You need to change something up.
[42:43] Speaker 4: In order to win, you have to change some shit up.
[42:46] Speaker 1: That's going to help his game, too. Luka and Reeves
[42:48] Speaker 1: took 80. The Lakers took 83 shots in that game.
[42:51] Speaker 1: Luka and Reeves took 40 of those shots. They were
[42:53] Speaker 1: 14 of 40. Crazy.
[42:56] Speaker 3: He probably can't do that.
[42:58] Speaker 4: Half the team shots, two guys.
[43:00] Speaker 1: Four for 15, four for three combined.
[43:04] Speaker 4: You said 14 for 40?
[43:06] Speaker 1: 14 for 40.
[43:07] Speaker 4: That's bad basketball.
[43:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a playoff style in the middle of
[43:11] Speaker 1: the season. Just bad basketball. Yeah. Bad basketball. Luka was
[43:17] Speaker 1: two for 10 for three, Reeves two for five, so
[43:19] Speaker 1: combined four for 15.
[43:20] Speaker 3: I want to see how many of them threes are stepbacks,
[43:22] Speaker 3: that's why.
[43:23] Speaker 2: All?
[43:24] Speaker 1: Most likely all of them.
[43:26] Speaker 6: I'm guaranteed four or five of them up.
[43:30] Speaker 1: For the move.
[43:31] Speaker 4: The one he passed up was the easiest one.
[43:33] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[43:35] Speaker 6: Wasn't that a hard enough shot? So, let's talk about.
[43:43] Speaker 1: One last issue with this Lakers squad before we move on. So,
[43:45] Speaker 1: Luka LeBron and Reeves trio, eight and five this season
[43:48] Speaker 1: when they all play together. Four of those five losses
[43:51] Speaker 1: are by double digits to the Spurs, Rockets, Celtics, and Suns.
[43:55] Speaker 1: And the numbers show when all three are on the
[43:57] Speaker 1: court together, the Lakers, like you said, Swaggy, are a
[44:01] Speaker 1: very ass team. So with Luka, LeBron, and Reeves on
[44:04] Speaker 1: the floor together, Lakers have a 110.6 offensive rating, 118.5
[44:07] Speaker 1: defensive rating, and a 7.9 net rating, or negative 7.9
[44:13] Speaker 1: net rating. With Luka and Reeves on the court without LeBron,
[44:17] Speaker 1: they have a 126.4 offensive rating, 108.5 defensive rating, plus
[44:19] Speaker 1: 17.9 net rating, so plus 18 net rating. And with
[44:25] Speaker 1: LeBron on the floor without the exciting whites, Lakers have
[44:28] Speaker 1: a 118.5 offensive rating, 109.7 defensive rating, and nearly a
[44:33] Speaker 1: plus nine net rating. So J.J. Redick said the Lakers
[44:36] Speaker 1: are a work in progress with LeBron and Luka both
[44:39] Speaker 1: echoing those sentiments. But, Gil, looking at those numbers right there.
[44:43] Speaker 1: You're missing one. You're missing LeBron and Reeves.
[44:46] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
[44:52] Speaker 1: Right, we would have needed to see that one too.
[44:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[44:58] Speaker 1: LeBron and Reeves, no Luka. Yeah, because one thing we
[45:01] Speaker 1: do know, we know.
[45:05] Speaker 2: If we put it in order of the slowest, it'd
[45:09] Speaker 2: be Luka, LeBron, then Reeves, right? So- Reeves is the
[45:15] Speaker 2: guy that moves the tempo, right? So I really want
[45:18] Speaker 2: to see what him and LeBron, or even him by himself,
[45:20] Speaker 2: because he did play.
[45:21] Speaker 1: By himself, what those numbers are.
[45:23] Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure they're a lot because he puts
[45:24] Speaker 2: more possessions in the game.
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[45:35] Speaker 2: So I want to see what his is by himself.
[45:37] Speaker 1: But what we can see is when all three on
[45:39] Speaker 1: the court together, it's kind of counterproductive. Yeah.
[45:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[45:46] Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's, it was a LeBron's makeup and
[45:52] Speaker 2: a Lucas transition. And some of these guys got to
[45:55] Speaker 2: get put out to make it more Luca friendly. And
[45:58] Speaker 2: you got to figure out what those pieces are, right?
[46:00] Speaker 2: This is one of those years where you still, you're
[46:03] Speaker 2: still trying to figure out the pieces that actually makes
[46:06] Speaker 2: it more efficient in scoring passing and You know, getting
[46:10] Speaker 2: up and down. We can say he plays slow, but
[46:13] Speaker 2: we watched him with Dallas and Kyrie and Lively and
[46:16] Speaker 2: all those guys. And one thing we do know is
[46:20] Speaker 2: we don't have those type of guys. that are moving
[46:24] Speaker 2: like that, where they're sprinting up the court and he's like,
[46:26] Speaker 2: fuck it, let me just throw it up court. Like,
[46:28] Speaker 2: we don't got that guy. We don't got that guy
[46:30] Speaker 2: that's forcing Luka to pass it. He's going here and
[46:32] Speaker 2: he's shooting to the rim and Luka's like, oh shit,
[46:34] Speaker 2: let me just give it up, right? We don't have
[46:36] Speaker 2: that guy. And then same thing with Kyrie. We can say, okay,
[46:40] Speaker 2: that's Austin Reeves, that style.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Of play, right? But everybody else is athletic. Like, we
[46:46] Speaker 1: don't have athletic players.
[46:48] Speaker 5: And Kyrie more efficient than fucking Austin Williams, too.
[46:52] Speaker 1: We can say, all right, we have another fast guy.
[46:53] Speaker 1: That's Kyrie. But we don't have the Lively and Gafford.
[46:56] Speaker 1: That's true. If you put.
[46:58] Speaker 3: These teams on paper, who do you think will win?
[47:01] Speaker 3: The Lakers versus the Dallas team?
[47:03] Speaker 4: Win right now?
[47:05] Speaker 1: Healthy?
[47:07] Speaker 4: With Kyrie healthy?
[47:09] Speaker 3: Kyrie, Lively.
[47:10] Speaker 5: And Lively and Gafford and everybody they have.
[47:15] Speaker 3: And Cooper.
[47:15] Speaker 1: Fucking Dallas Mavericks.
[47:17] Speaker 3: Jones and what's the other one?
[47:19] Speaker 4: Yeah, they get y'all.
[47:21] Speaker 1: Oh, no. Oh. With the healthy Kyrie Irving.
[47:24] Speaker 4: And the winning one-boy player.
[47:26] Speaker 1: They get us an easy trip to the next round.
[47:29] Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about? Wait, you're talking about the playoffs?
[47:32] Speaker 1: You're talking like they put the playoffs healthy right now?
[47:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, get y'all.
[47:36] Speaker 1: But did they get us last year? You know Luka
[47:39] Speaker 1: hasn't lost to Dallas, right? That's what I'm saying.
[47:42] Speaker 3: And Kyrie ain't been out there for none of them
[47:44] Speaker 3: games either.
[47:45] Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you. Luka ain't losing to Dallas.
[47:48] Speaker 1: Wasn't Kyrie here for the first game? He was out there.
[47:51] Speaker 7: Getting barbecued.
[47:52] Speaker 1: I was a game him and Kyrie was going off. Yeah.
[47:55] Speaker 1: He was here in L.A.
[48:05] Speaker 4: First game back.
[48:06] Speaker 1: We were all there. We were all there.
[48:09] Speaker 3: I think he was to the left.
[48:12] Speaker 1: We were all there. An exciting evening. Enjoyed it.
[48:16] Speaker 4: I erased it out of my memory. I erased it
[48:18] Speaker 4: out of my memory, but I wasn't there.
[48:20] Speaker 1: But it brings me to the point where you can't
[48:22] Speaker 1: have LeBron, Luka, and Reeves on the court at the
[48:24] Speaker 1: same time. It's not productive. Then what's the solution there?
[48:26] Speaker 1: Because you're not bringing LeBron off the bench. I'm not
[48:32] Speaker 1: bringing Reeves off the bench.
[48:34] Speaker 10: You're not bringing Luka off the bench.
[48:37] Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what are we talking about?
[48:40] Speaker 2: The last five minutes, they got to play with each other.
[48:42] Speaker 2: So you got three different styles. And what's so funny
[48:48] Speaker 2: is the only person that's adaptable, and that's why I
[48:50] Speaker 2: wouldn't bring him off the bench, is Reeves. He's played
[48:53] Speaker 2: with LeBron, knows how to play with LeBron. He knows
[48:56] Speaker 2: how to play with Luka. So it's not him.
[49:01] Speaker 4: But he has two.
[49:03] Speaker 5: You can't have two guys out there taking all the
[49:06] Speaker 5: bad-ass shots. Like, Austin Reed's got to be better. He
[49:10] Speaker 5: got to limit some of them. Yeah, okay.
[49:15] Speaker 1: He can't do the.
[49:15] Speaker 5: Same shit Luka do. You can't have him and Luka
[49:17] Speaker 5: out there, motherfucker, taking turns. Dribble, dribble, tween, tween, tween,
[49:21] Speaker 5: step back, 28-footer.
[49:23] Speaker 4: Like, just don't.
[49:24] Speaker 1: And coming down and getting your ass busted.
[49:27] Speaker 3: And your liability on him. And your liability. He don't
[49:31] Speaker 3: take those with all.
[49:32] Speaker 6: Three of them in there.
[49:33] Speaker 1: Yes, he does. He take those when.
[49:34] Speaker 2: Luka go out.
[49:41] Speaker 4: He's either with Luka out there or ain't out there.
[49:43] Speaker 4: You can't have him taking them bad-ass shots, man. Because
[49:47] Speaker 4: he don't know no better when they're out there. If
[49:49] Speaker 4: you do it when they're out there, if you do
[49:51] Speaker 4: it when they ain't out there, he's going to do it.
[49:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even.
[49:54] Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
[49:54] Speaker 4: I can't complain.
[49:55] Speaker 1: It's just one of those. You just be like, okay.
[50:00] Speaker 2: Like, it's so reckless, but it's still somehow controlled. Like,
[50:06] Speaker 2: you see it. You see him like crossing. He's like,
[50:10] Speaker 2: it's like me in my life.
[50:12] Speaker 1: I'm always right at the edge, right? But I figure
[50:16] Speaker 1: out how to stay in line.
[50:19] Speaker 2: You know, I might have hit the bumper a little.
[50:21] Speaker 1: Bit, but I ain't fully stuck. I got to take
[50:25] Speaker 1: it to the body shop just a little bit.
[50:27] Speaker 4: I messed up the ring.
[50:28] Speaker 1: For the most part, engine's still good.
[50:31] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Still workable.
[50:33] Speaker 1: We can still drive.
[50:39] Speaker 2: And that's how he plays the game. He brings too
[50:45] Speaker 2: much to just... I cannot penalize him.
[50:49] Speaker 4: No, you can't. Because you need him to compete. You
[50:52] Speaker 4: need him to.
[50:53] Speaker 5: Because you don't have enough on the bench for him
[50:56] Speaker 5: not to be aggressive. So I get the dilemma that
[51:01] Speaker 5: they're in and the way they play. So I understand it,
[51:04] Speaker 5: but it's... It's a winning formula when the time counts.
[51:08] Speaker 3: The other day, Austin Reeves froze out, was iced out.
[51:12] Speaker 6: Not the game before that, I think. He only had
[51:15] Speaker 6: like 10 by the third quarter or something like that. Yeah,
[51:19] Speaker 6: Reeves was scoreless. The halftime of this game came back
[51:22] Speaker 6: in the second half.
[51:23] Speaker 1: He froze out.
[51:23] Speaker 3: That's what I don't like. They got to figure that out.
[51:27] Speaker 5: Man, you can't see the thing is, right? Who's freezing
[51:30] Speaker 5: him out? He goes scoreless at halftime.
[51:33] Speaker 1: 50% of the time.
[51:35] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[51:38] Speaker 4: He went scoreless, right? So that's the problem, right? Right there.
[51:41] Speaker 4: He went scoreless in the first half and came out.
[51:45] Speaker 4: You ain't got it going, dog. You went scoreless in
[51:48] Speaker 4: the first half. He came out in the second half
[51:50] Speaker 4: and him and Luka took fucking 40 shots. He took
[51:53] Speaker 4: 20 shots in the second half, bro. I mean, come on, man.
[51:56] Speaker 4: You ain't got it going.
[51:59] Speaker 3: I don't know if I got it going.
[52:00] Speaker 1: You ain't gave me the ball.
[52:02] Speaker 4: He went scoreless. He got the last game. The team
[52:06] Speaker 4: took 83 shots.
[52:07] Speaker 3: Luca and Austin Reeves took 40 of them. Reeves was
[52:09] Speaker 3: scoreless in the first.
[52:10] Speaker 1: Half, but then he bounced back.
[52:10] Speaker 4: You keep saying scoreless like he didn't touch the ball.
[52:25] Speaker 1: He did not score in the first half, Gil. That
[52:28] Speaker 1: doesn't mean he didn't score. How many shots he got?
[52:33] Speaker 1: How many shots he got?
[52:35] Speaker 2: He's saying he was scoreless like he didn't get the ball.
[52:38] Speaker 2: But if he's 0-10, he got the ball.
[52:40] Speaker 1: How many shots did he have, though?
[52:43] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[52:44] Speaker 1: Gil, did I say he was scoreless and didn't get
[52:46] Speaker 1: the ball?
[52:49] Speaker 2: No, Nick is saying he didn't get the ball.
[52:51] Speaker 1: He was 0 for 5 in the first half. Thank you.
[52:54] Speaker 3: That ain't shit. That ain't shit.
[52:56] Speaker 1: 0 for 5.
[52:57] Speaker 6: That's a fucking shot every five minutes.
[53:01] Speaker 1: How the fuck I'm going to get going?
[53:04] Speaker 3: Fuck.
[53:05] Speaker 2: I got to sit in the corner and wait for
[53:07] Speaker 2: you to get that shit.
[53:08] Speaker 3: That's a real point of nigga stat right there.
[53:10] Speaker 1: Point of nigga stat.
[53:11] Speaker 3: You sitting here watching all these niggas. All right, I'm
[53:14] Speaker 3: going to show y'all a second half.
[53:16] Speaker 2: See, hey.
[53:17] Speaker 4: I got y'all. That's exactly what happened.
[53:18] Speaker 3: I got y'all niggas.
[53:19] Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened.
[53:20] Speaker 3: I want to do this step back shit. Okay, I'll
[53:22] Speaker 3: show you how to step back, motherfucker.
[53:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So the second half, he
[53:26] Speaker 4: came out and did it.
[53:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So what was the final?
[53:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[53:32] Speaker 1: So I took 11 shots in the second half. Finished with,
[53:36] Speaker 1: hold on one second. I'm out of it. 18 points.
[53:42] Speaker 3: God damn. Five shots in two quarters.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Fuck. I'm the third scorer? I'm the fucking... So six
[53:50] Speaker 1: for 11 in the second half. Yeah. 50%.
[53:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, not bad.
[53:59] Speaker 1: Enough negative Lakers discourse for today. Let's keep this thing
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[55:16] Speaker 1: Let's talk about some positive things that went on in
[55:18] Speaker 1: the association last evening. Trey Young made his return to
[55:21] Speaker 1: Atlanta for the first time since being traded to the
[55:23] Speaker 1: Wizards on Tuesday night and got a front row seat
[55:26] Speaker 1: to watch Jonathan Kaminga make his Hawks debut. So Kaminga
[55:31] Speaker 1: escaped the Warriors' doghouse with a trade before the deadline,
[55:34] Speaker 1: got to cooking with his new squad, coming through with
[55:37] Speaker 1: a season-high 27 points on 9 of 12 shooting, including
[55:40] Speaker 1: 3 of 4 from deep, along with 7 rebounds, 4 assists,
[55:43] Speaker 1: and 2 steals in 24 minutes off the bench. His
[55:46] Speaker 1: high-scoring night was much needed after All-Star forward Jalen Johnson
[55:50] Speaker 1: left the game in the first quarter with a hip injury.
[55:54] Speaker 1: Kaminga was all smiles throughout the game as the Hawks
[55:57] Speaker 1: got the blowout win. We got the numbers. right there
[55:59] Speaker 1: on the screen for you guys. So Gilbert, I will
[56:02] Speaker 1: start with you. Good to see Kaminga balling in his
[56:04] Speaker 1: debut with the Hawks. Hell yeah.
[56:10] Speaker 2: I think the world, I think we're all like, I
[56:12] Speaker 2: think everybody, everybody, but I'm pretty sure everybody was excited
[56:18] Speaker 2: to see Kaminga play because we've seen so many glimpses
[56:24] Speaker 2: of him. We've heard so much negativity around his name
[56:26] Speaker 2: and his game.
[56:28] Speaker 1: Um, He's missed.
[56:31] Speaker 2: So much basketball that he can come off the bench
[56:40] Speaker 2: and produce and do exactly what we thought. Run up
[56:46] Speaker 2: and down. Dunk. Put pressure on the rim. Be a score.
[56:53] Speaker 2: It's one of those things where when Draymond Green subbed
[56:58] Speaker 2: in for.
[57:02] Speaker 1: When they made that decision for David Ali, David.
[57:05] Speaker 2: Lee, who was an all-star player at the moment in
[57:11] Speaker 2: time where they made the switch. But you didn't do
[57:17] Speaker 2: it this time around to evolve that team.
[57:21] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it was one of
[57:23] Speaker 1: those things where.
[57:25] Speaker 2: You do got shit on your face or egg on
[57:29] Speaker 2: your face. And, you know, it is going to bite
[57:32] Speaker 2: you moving forward because, like, he's so young, he's so talented,
[57:35] Speaker 2: and he's going to get better, right? And, you know,
[57:38] Speaker 2: now that he knows that he is an NBA player,
[57:43] Speaker 2: he can play in this league, he's only going to
[57:46] Speaker 2: use what you did against the next few. And I'm
[57:49] Speaker 2: going to tell you, I don't know if Golden State
[57:53] Speaker 2: plays Atlanta this year.
[57:55] Speaker 1: I believe they do. Steve Kerr? I'm telling you, and
[57:59] Speaker 1: I'm telling you as a Hooper. Don't double. Nah.
[58:07] Speaker 2: Nah.
[58:08] Speaker 1: Don't double. Yeah, you ain't doubled nobody all year. Don't double.
[58:13] Speaker 1: Whoever was playing in front of him, check up. and
[58:16] Speaker 1: he's going to barbecue the shit.
[58:19] Speaker 2: Because everybody in Atlanta, even if he's new, they're going
[58:23] Speaker 2: to be like, we understand.
[58:24] Speaker 1: Do your thing. March 21st in Atlanta, Gil, the Warriors
[58:28] Speaker 1: pull up to town.
[58:33] Speaker 2: He's going to get all the shots, and I don't
[58:34] Speaker 2: want to see no doubling.
[58:36] Speaker 1: Don't double. Because if you double, you look weak. as
[58:40] Speaker 1: a coach and as an organization.
[58:41] Speaker 3: You can't double.
[58:42] Speaker 1: You can't double, though. You can't double because you said.
[58:45] Speaker 3: He was worth nothing.
[58:47] Speaker 1: Don't come out and.
[58:48] Speaker 2: Start doubling a player who ain't worth nothing. Nah, don't
[58:51] Speaker 2: do that. He's not worth nothing. You shouldn't even have
[58:54] Speaker 2: a scout report on the dude. Who was the dude
[58:58] Speaker 2: playing in front of him? That's who should be guarding him.
[59:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, the facts. Whoever that is. Is that Brandon?
[59:06] Speaker 3: Is that.
[59:06] Speaker 1: Is that?
[59:12] Speaker 3: That's Draymond?
[59:13] Speaker 1: It could be at times. Whoever the three is. Yeah,
[59:17] Speaker 1: whoever the three over there. Now you play some small forward,
[59:20] Speaker 1: power forward. I'm just saying it could be at times.
[59:25] Speaker 1: Power forward is the four, sir. So if you play
[59:27] Speaker 1: small forward and power forward. That means he would play
[59:29] Speaker 1: the three and the four. And you pulled that bullshit
[59:38] Speaker 1: last week, Gil. I'm not over it. He was starting
[59:41] Speaker 1: at the three. So whoever took him out of that
[59:43] Speaker 1: spot right there. Who is that? Who is that? He's
[59:48] Speaker 1: playing the three right now for the Warriors. We do
[59:50] Speaker 1: not watch Warriors basketball. It was Jimmy, right? Now, Jimmy's
[59:54] Speaker 1: a two, right? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
[59:57] Speaker 2: Who's about to get that ass whooped?
[59:59] Speaker 1: That's all we want to know. Warriors fans in the chat,
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: say some names. It's going to be that big ass. Oh,
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: Pat Spencer. Ouch. Good luck, buddy. Never mind. Never mind.
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: Let's shift over to Mr. B. Mr. B, was it
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: good for you to see Jonathan Kaminga? Fake that injury, Pat.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: Fake that injury, Pat. Jonathan Kaminga balling out in his
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks debut after his unceremonious exit from the Warriors.
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: Did that man dirty? Play with his money. Yeah, of course, man.
[1:00:37] Speaker 8: I mean, everything he went through, like Gil said, I mean,
[1:00:40] Speaker 8: he's still young, still talented. Everybody know he can play.
[1:00:42] Speaker 8: We saw him last year when he got in and
[1:00:45] Speaker 8: he was playing with the little minutes of time that
[1:00:47] Speaker 8: he had. But now he has the freedom. Now everything's
[1:00:49] Speaker 8: behind him. Now he can just go play basketball. And
[1:00:53] Speaker 8: I just hope that he can stay healthy and just
[1:00:54] Speaker 8: continue to just keep growing.
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: That's all he can help. I mean, he's been– because
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: he's been playing with the Warriors.
[1:01:00] Speaker 8: He's been in the practice facilities, the locker rooms with
[1:01:03] Speaker 8: Steph Curry and some of the great players. So he
[1:01:06] Speaker 8: has a lot of knowledge. So he can just take
[1:01:09] Speaker 8: that on with him.
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: Swaggy, let's move on to yourself.
[1:01:14] Speaker 6: Oh, man, it's always– for me, it's always good seeing
[1:01:17] Speaker 6: my players– Get a chance to grow and redeem themselves
[1:01:21] Speaker 6: after being talked about and ridiculed.
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: Put on the end of the bench, DNPs.
[1:01:26] Speaker 6: There's nothing like going out there and proving people wrong.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: Kaminga, keep it up.
[1:01:33] Speaker 6: I know you got that date marked in March. You
[1:01:37] Speaker 6: can't wait to play against them guys. Are they in
[1:01:39] Speaker 6: the playoff running, Atlanta?
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: They are ninth in the East right now, trending in
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: the right direction. Okay, okay. According to you.
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: I think they got a chance to... That'd be a
[1:01:50] Speaker 3: little dangerous, the way they... Team for.
[1:01:53] Speaker 6: The people that can jump, athletic, young players, that all
[1:01:57] Speaker 6: it takes is one shot to go in for them
[1:02:00] Speaker 6: to be playing well. They'll be all right, for sure.
[1:02:05] Speaker 3: You know, they get that momentum.
[1:02:08] Speaker 6: They see two buckets go in, it's hard to stop
[1:02:10] Speaker 6: a young.
[1:02:12] Speaker 3: Shit, so.
[1:02:13] Speaker 6: But yeah, shout-out to a lot of people. Cam Thomas,
[1:02:15] Speaker 6: you know... But getting buckets, 35 and 20 minutes and shit.
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: All my guys, man. I wish I had the smoke.
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: You feel me?
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: It must be something about this box. I think it's
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: this box. I don't think y'all are delusional. I think
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: the box is delusional. We're just going to throw it
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: to the box. This box that I keep seeing, it's
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: the same box. The people that's in it just be just.
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: Okay, now. Nick.
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: Can we get an understanding here?
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: What?
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: When you say your guys, when you say corner guys,
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: can we establish what an actual corner guy is?
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: Who is the corner guy?
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: Because you're grabbing guys that are not considered corner guys,
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: and you're trying to pretend that they're corner guys.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: Like Cam Thomas is not a corner guy. He was
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: the number one guy.
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: Oh, man, stop, man. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: What is your corner guy?
[1:03:22] Speaker 6: Ham Thomas is a corner. Like, when Giannis come back,
[1:03:25] Speaker 6: where he's going?
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I don't care.
[1:03:29] Speaker 3: He's not going to the corner.
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
[1:03:32] Speaker 6: That's what a corner guy is.
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: If you're not the star, if you're not the star,
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: what are you?
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: Second option.
[1:03:41] Speaker 14: Oh, man.
[1:03:44] Speaker 3: All right, Vanderbilt, all of them second option.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: Everybody's... No, no, see, wait, I just said second option.
[1:03:50] Speaker 3: No, Vanderbilt's second option then. That's what you're saying.
[1:03:54] Speaker 6: I'm saying if you're not the star, if your name
[1:03:56] Speaker 6: is not the star of the team, who are you?
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: No, if you're... No, no, there's roles. There's... The number
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: one player... then you have the.
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: Second option, you have the third option, you have role players,
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: and then you have these things called corner guys.
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: That means that's where they are. Corner guys.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: You get the ball. in the corner when you're wide open.
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: So DJ Tucker, corner guy, right? Bruce Bowen, ain't corner guy.
[1:04:25] Speaker 6: Nobody was in the corner. How you gonna tell me
[1:04:30] Speaker 6: about my organization?
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: Just stay in your lane.
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking you.
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: Stay in your lane.
[1:04:35] Speaker 1: So what is a corner guy?
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: You know what.
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: A corner guy is.
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: You definitely know what a corner guy is.
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: When? What year? When I was in Memphis? Yeah, Memphis, yeah. Orlando, yeah.
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: You even know when you was a star?
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: Where you tell niggas.
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: To go?
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: So was Karan a corner guy? I'm asking a question
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: because I was an all-star. Was Antoine Jamison a corner guy?
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: He wasn't a star, but no. So we have roles,
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: so we know what corner guys are, Nick.
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: You averaged 18.
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: You wasn't a corner guy when you was averaged 18, Nick. Yes,
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: I was. You were elite corner.
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: I was an elite corner. Because I knew my role
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: when Kobe come back in. I got to get to
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: the corner.
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: You always say when someone comes back in. Thank you.
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: It's levels to corners.
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: Nigga, it's levels. I get freedom, yes. I'm an elite.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: I get freedom.
[1:05:46] Speaker 6: But when the star come back in, my role changes
[1:05:49] Speaker 6: to the corner.
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: I go back to where I belong. Corner.
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: And wait. It's levels.
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: So when Kobe wasn't on the, when he wasn't there,
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: what were you then?
[1:05:59] Speaker 3: I'm still in the corner, my friend.
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: You was the go-to guy. I was the elite corner.
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: When option one came back and you was number two,
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: you just said, nigga, I'm in.
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: The corner now. I'm option two now? Nigga, you know that.
[1:06:16] Speaker 6: If you know when somebody comes back, your job is
[1:06:19] Speaker 6: to go back to the corner, what are you? If
[1:06:22] Speaker 6: you don't change this shit, if Kobe came back and
[1:06:25] Speaker 6: I put him in the corner, yes, I'm a star now.
[1:06:27] Speaker 6: But if you know when Kobe come back, your ass
[1:06:30] Speaker 6: is in the corner.
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: What are you? What are you?
[1:06:34] Speaker 6: It don't matter how many points you get, but you
[1:06:36] Speaker 6: know when a star.
[1:06:37] Speaker 3: Come back, where do you go?
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: Back to your position. Thank you. So what that makes me?
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: What that makes me? A corner nigger.
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: It don't matter. I got to go back to my spot.
[1:06:49] Speaker 6: Like Deshaun Stevens, the nigga Deshaun Stevens can have a
[1:06:53] Speaker 6: thousand points when you was gone.
[1:06:54] Speaker 3: But when you came back, where you put Deshaun back?
[1:06:58] Speaker 1: Okay, can I ask you now? I'm glad you said that.
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: When I was out, did Deshaun become the number one guy?
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: Or the number two guy? Or was he just in
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: his corner? Because a corner guy don't elevate. I don't know.
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: That means James Harden missed, P.J.
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: Tucker.
[1:07:18] Speaker 2: Didn't do nothing different. He didn't have to go up
[1:07:24] Speaker 2: or down. His role is his role. You're confusing people.
[1:07:29] Speaker 6: You're confusing people.
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: How you gonna tell me what am I doing?
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: Where is he gonna go?
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: Your job is the corner. I don't give a shit
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: who's on the team.
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, if Vando's the corner guy,
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: LeBron can be missing. Luka be not playing. Austin Weaves
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: cannot be playing.
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: His role... will still be the same.
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: Sit your ass in that right or left corner because
[1:08:02] Speaker 2: either Rui's going to be taking.
[1:08:03] Speaker 3: More shots or that's going to be.
[1:08:06] Speaker 1: Shooting a lot more shots. Van Gogh's still going to
[1:08:10] Speaker 1: be doing exactly what he does. It's levels.
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: It's levels. You can't tell me about the NBCP.
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: Okay?
[1:08:18] Speaker 6: You can't tell me about the National Basketball Corner Association, okay?
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: The NBCP.
[1:08:24] Speaker 6: Hey, that was.
[1:08:29] Speaker 6: Hey, you can tell me about that.
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: I own this shit.
[1:08:39] Speaker 6: Corner niggas can be versatile. You act like corner niggas
[1:08:42] Speaker 6: can't be versatile.
[1:08:44] Speaker 3: Goddamn. It's levels.
[1:08:47] Speaker 6: Sometimes people make it out the corner and become a star,
[1:08:50] Speaker 6: like A.R.
[1:08:51] Speaker 3: You can become a custodian.
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: You can. You can. You can.
[1:08:57] Speaker 3: It's hope for the corner niggas sometimes.
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: It is hope. No, you know there's a six men.
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: That is a six man.
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: That's the role. We are the elites, yeah.
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: You remember your team? Okay, you remember Ryan Kelly? I
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: don't give a fuck who was missing. Who was missing
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: on your team? Ryan Kelly was never going to get
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: 10 to 15 shots. I don't care who was out there, right?
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: You get in there, you sit in the corner, huh?
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: You sit in the corner. He was like, man, this
[1:09:27] Speaker 2: is a bunch of D-League players. Sit your ass in
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: that corner, okay? Go back and forth from the corner,
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: no matter who's playing. That was his level, okay? His
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: level was always level one or two. if you made
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: two shots you got the level two other than that
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: you're level one corner don't get past level one okay
[1:09:46] Speaker 2: i'm pretending.
[1:09:47] Speaker 3: You get crazy all right man hey gill you're you're no.
[1:09:50] Speaker 6: Longer able to talk about corner they are a corner
[1:09:55] Speaker 6: a good corner elite him me lou will he's on
[1:10:00] Speaker 6: the board he's on them wait lou will is a
[1:10:03] Speaker 6: corner you see what i'm saying wait lou will's a
[1:10:06] Speaker 6: corner Gil Swaggy has banned you from all corner discussions.
[1:10:12] Speaker 3: J.R.
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: Smith was a corner?
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, he got banned, man, for real.
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: Like, you're disrespectful.
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: No, see, he's just mad because what happened was, this
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: is what happened with him.
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: He was balling.
[1:10:22] Speaker 2: Kobe wasn't here, so he's talking that shit, right? And
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: then what happened is he tried to zip her up.
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: And then Kobe guys said, get your ass in.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: That corner, you corner boy.
[1:10:32] Speaker 2: Get your ass in that corner, boy.
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: And that's where he.
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: Because I can tell you this, there was no corner
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: talk when he was with the Wizards, when he was
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: with Philly. When he got... Get your ass over there
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: in that corner. You stay there, corner boy. And from there,
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: he just figured he was a corner boy.
[1:10:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, man. The corner came.
[1:10:56] Speaker 6: The corner nigga came later on in life. Like, once
[1:10:59] Speaker 6: they started changing the game and doing analytics and shooting threes, that's.
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: When the corner nigga came.
[1:11:05] Speaker 6: But back then, nigga didn't even shoot threes. There wasn't
[1:11:08] Speaker 6: no corners on the Wizards. And Tony Jamison and They
[1:11:12] Speaker 6: was in the dunker corner. Him and Karan, that nail
[1:11:15] Speaker 6: on the elbow, that was their corner.
[1:11:17] Speaker 3: They sit on the elbow, free throw, that was his corner. Like,
[1:11:21] Speaker 3: it's going in the 80s and shit.
[1:11:23] Speaker 6: But now, as you get older, once you start hitting
[1:11:25] Speaker 6: the hundreds, niggas start verting to that corner and sitting there.
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: Yeah. You said the dunker corner.
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: That's right, man. Dunker corner.
[1:11:34] Speaker 6: Antwana do that damn floater from that dunker so fast,
[1:11:38] Speaker 6: he'll hit that nigga, throw up a hook shot dunker.
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, nigga, how you release that bitch so fast?
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: Nigga was doing shit like this. Out the corner, though.
[1:11:50] Speaker 3: That's what I do over here. Verse, nigga.
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: Way over here. I don't know why y'all... I'm sorry.
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: He did shoot that shit.
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: Did he shoot that crazy shit?
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:12:04] Speaker 4: I had to guard him. I had to guard him.
[1:12:09] Speaker 4: So it's like, yo, that shit was awkward and fast. Hey, listen, absolutely.
[1:12:16] Speaker 4: That bitch on the rim before you know it.
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: Then you know that bitch gonna come off if he
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: miss it.
[1:12:22] Speaker 4: He getting it right back in front of the rim
[1:12:24] Speaker 4: and shoot it again before you react.
[1:12:25] Speaker 1: Damn.
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
[1:12:30] Speaker 1: That's funny. Everybody in the corner. Everybody in the corner.
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: The NBCP. This was a Jonathan Kaminga discussion, but as
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: we tend to do here on Gil's Virtual Arena, we
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: will veer off topic.
[1:12:49] Speaker 4: That's what we was talking about?
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: That's what led to this particular situation. I don't even
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: know if I got to ask you about Kaminga, but No,
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: you did not. My family wasn't talking about it. See,
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: that's how that goes. You're happy to see Jonathan Kaminga
[1:13:06] Speaker 1: doing his thing. It's one game sample size against the
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: Washington Wizards, who are a slum buster for many.
[1:13:12] Speaker 4: As Gil said, hell yeah!
[1:13:16] Speaker 5: Nah, man, it's good to see the young fella out there, Doghouse, man.
[1:13:18] Speaker 5: He deserves opportunity to go out and display his skill set.
[1:13:22] Speaker 5: Hopefully he can be healthy for the rest of the year.
[1:13:27] Speaker 5: small sample size for the Atlanta Falcon. I mean, Atlanta
[1:13:29] Speaker 5: Hawks fans, um, 27 points in 24 minutes. So yeah, that's,
[1:13:36] Speaker 5: that's a very bright spot for them. They get Jalen
[1:13:38] Speaker 5: Johnson back, get him healthy. Um, they're in a play
[1:13:42] Speaker 5: in game right now. So they might stay there or
[1:13:44] Speaker 5: they might get the aid, whatever the case may be,
[1:13:46] Speaker 5: but learning experiences, um, good for, um, to get some
[1:13:50] Speaker 5: games under their belt, playing together, um, bring that young
[1:13:53] Speaker 5: quarterback next year. I think it's going to be exciting. Um, Yeah, no,
[1:13:57] Speaker 5: I'm excited for Jonathan Kamiga, man, to be able to
[1:14:01] Speaker 5: bounce back and get your joy back. You just see
[1:14:03] Speaker 5: the smile on his face last night when he's playing.
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: Cheesing the whole game.
[1:14:08] Speaker 4: The whole game, man. No, it's opportunity, man.
[1:14:11] Speaker 5: It's a weight lifted off his shoulders, a burden that
[1:14:13] Speaker 5: he didn't deserve to have to carry. Being under Steve
[1:14:18] Speaker 5: Kerr's watch. So, no, I'm happy for him, man. I'm
[1:14:22] Speaker 5: very happy for the kid.
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: And Kenya, like you said, I don't know about the
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: Hawks this season, but just looking at that roster, that
[1:14:27] Speaker 1: squad for the future, I think that's a very exciting
[1:14:29] Speaker 1: team and the Eastern Conference team that has the potential
[1:14:31] Speaker 1: to do something.
[1:14:33] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:14:34] Speaker 5: Yeah, no, like I said, if they get a play-in
[1:14:36] Speaker 5: game this year, I think the experience of being a play-in,
[1:14:42] Speaker 5: play-off sort of style team, I think will help them
[1:14:46] Speaker 5: moving forward. So, yeah, anywhere they finish right now, seven, eight, nine,
[1:14:51] Speaker 5: will be beneficial to them moving forward.
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: Gil, I see you over there checking your phone, not
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: looking engaged. Yeah, when you said that, I was kind
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: of confused.
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: Because I remember we were saying Trey Young was taking
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: some bullshit to the playoffs.
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: Then you said that young court, they're going to be good.
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: So I wanted to go and look.
[1:15:11] Speaker 4: And, okay.
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: It seems like that court would benefit with Trey playing,
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: but that's my personal opinion. We got Jaden Johnson. We
[1:15:18] Speaker 1: got him.
[1:15:18] Speaker 3: All right.
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: And then, okay. We got Walker. Okay, he was there.
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: Then Trae Young. Trae Young, 19, is not there no more.
[1:15:28] Speaker 2: McCullough's 18. He just got there, so he's not going
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: to be there. Then you got Porzingis. He's not going
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: to be there. Then he can't shoot.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: Let's talk about what we do have. We got the
[1:15:39] Speaker 1: number one pick averaging 10. You got Dyson Daniels. Sure do. Yes, sir.
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: In cap space. Proceed. How come.
[1:16:03] Speaker 1: Like, okay, I know Bronny's famous. I get that part.
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: But he's not that famous enough.
[1:16:15] Speaker 2: To forget that the number one guy is....
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: He does play.
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: A lot.
[1:16:24] Speaker 14: Kinda.
[1:16:25] Speaker 1: And nothing?
[1:16:27] Speaker 2: Like, we've never, no one's ever mentioned the number one
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: player in the draft.
[1:16:34] Speaker 3: Ever. They foreign, that's why.
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: You don't talk about foreigners. Yeah, but Bronny was the
[1:16:40] Speaker 1: biggest name in that draft. No, but I get it. Like,
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: you know how we talk about Castle? Castle, yeah, we... Okay.
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: Tassel!
[1:16:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: Like, the number one, usually the number one pick is featured.
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: At some point. It's year two. Is that how we
[1:17:00] Speaker 1: research it? Averaging 10, and it's just.
[1:17:03] Speaker 8: I don't... So you think, so you're saying, like, if
[1:17:07] Speaker 8: this was Cooper Flagg, they'd be on his head right now?
[1:17:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't talk about foreigners like that.
[1:17:13] Speaker 10: Right?
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: Because.
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: Cooper Flatt got murdered for having two against OKC when
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: he was born.
[1:17:22] Speaker 1: If Cooper Flatt was putting up those numbers this season,
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: we would be packing him up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, yeah,
[1:17:27] Speaker 1: it would be more of a.
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:17:32] Speaker 2: It's like, did they, did they, did they was just like, okay,
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: he's not going to be good.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: We just going to put his ass anyway. Like I
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: was just trying to. Huh?
[1:17:36] Speaker 6: He definitely, he's definitely getting a pass.
[1:17:45] Speaker 4: I don't know why, but he's definitely getting a pass.
[1:17:47] Speaker 4: All of them get passes.
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: All of them do. He didn't have a height behind him.
[1:17:52] Speaker 3: A score, a score.
[1:17:53] Speaker 4: There ain't nobody watching the Hawks play.
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: So they're saying that they didn't really have any height
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: behind them.
[1:18:00] Speaker 3: Nope.
[1:18:01] Speaker 1: The two French guys.
[1:18:02] Speaker 4: Yeah, they did. They just picked them.
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: So they can fly on the radar. You, you, let's go.
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: Come on.
[1:18:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, they can fly on the radar.
[1:18:10] Speaker 1: So they can keep pushing in there. But that brings
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: us to our next topic. I think it's a perfect
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: time to segue. So there's been a lot of hate
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: and criticism towards American basketball development at the grassroots level.
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant has had enough. So during a recent interview
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: with ESPN's Vince Goodwill, where he stated his desire to
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: play with Team USA in the 2028 Olympics, Durant also
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: had some interesting comments on all the hate that AAU
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: gets compared to the European model, saying, quote, I just
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: don't like to talk around the USA versus European style
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: of how you approach the game.
[1:18:39] Speaker 5: Woo!
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: All I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: Euros do it right while the Americans do it wrong.
[1:18:49] Speaker 1: It's a lot of bullshit. with that. I can read
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: between the lines on that. It's a shot at black Americans.
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: We're controlling the sport. They're tired of us controlling the sport.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: They say France is coming for you. Really? We smack them, boys.
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: And after the Rockets win over the Jazz Monday, Durant
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: elaborated on his feelings towards the criticism that American grassroots
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: basketball gets. So let's play that clip if we have it.
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: Ready to go. Uh-oh. They pulling it up. Ladies and gentlemen,
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: you get a backstage look at how we accomplished this
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: virtual show. Let's go, KD! I mean, this HOA.
[1:19:23] Speaker 10: KD!
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: These HOA workers outside. They need to be in the neighborhood.
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: Everybody's house is clean, but goddamn. Let's go, KD! So
[1:19:34] Speaker 1: let's listen to what KD had to say. Big KD.
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: negative talk about the.
[1:19:38] Speaker 14: AAU and how it has disrupted the game of basketball.
[1:19:44] Speaker 14: AAU has been around for 50, 40, 50 years, and
[1:19:47] Speaker 14: we're all a part of the AAU.
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: A lot of us are a part of the AAU.
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: It changed our lives.
[1:19:53] Speaker 14: Being able to leave our neighborhood and go play against
[1:19:55] Speaker 14: the best around the country at an early age. So
[1:19:59] Speaker 14: I don't want to undercut what AAU means to the
[1:20:02] Speaker 14: game of basketball, but also European style, guys coming over earlier.
[1:20:06] Speaker 1: Who comes across 15, 14.
[1:20:08] Speaker 14: That's still a great way to go, too. So many
[1:20:11] Speaker 14: different routes to make to the league, so I don't
[1:20:13] Speaker 14: want to.
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: I kind of hate when they disrespect the AAU route.
[1:20:18] Speaker 1: Hit KD! Swag, I see you flexing your muscles in
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: support of Kevin Durant. We will start with you, Swaggy.
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: Thoughts on KD defending AAU and the American grassroots basketball system?
[1:20:34] Speaker 3: Oh, man, I love it, man.
[1:20:35] Speaker 6: It's just that all you hear is European this, European that.
[1:20:40] Speaker 6: You're not doing it right. Um, I feel like, just
[1:20:45] Speaker 6: like with the, we were just talking about, they get
[1:20:47] Speaker 6: a lot of passes. It's, even the comparisons now, they don't,
[1:20:54] Speaker 6: they're able to just get, play free, shoot the ball,
[1:20:57] Speaker 6: don't have to worry about defense and all that and
[1:20:59] Speaker 6: don't get criticized for it. Like, little things like that.
[1:21:03] Speaker 6: I think, we made it easy for them over here.
[1:21:10] Speaker 6: Made it easy for them. Like, even with Luca, like,
[1:21:15] Speaker 6: If he was him and Trae Young, similar score, similar.
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: Everything, but Luka is up here and Trae Young is
[1:21:22] Speaker 3: down here. And one of those aspects, I just love it.
[1:21:31] Speaker 1: I love it.
[1:21:31] Speaker 6: I love it when people like KD speak up for us,
[1:21:35] Speaker 6: for sure.
[1:21:35] Speaker 1: Obviously, AAU's system has produced a lot of high-quality talent
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: that we still continue to see. Team USA won five
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: straight gold medals. in the Olympics going up against the
[1:21:44] Speaker 1: world and their system. But Mr. B, when you hear
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: KD making these comments about the AAU game and the
[1:21:49] Speaker 1: state of American grassroots basketball, what are your thoughts on that?
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: I mean, he is speaking facts.
[1:21:55] Speaker 8: It has done a lot for us that come out
[1:21:57] Speaker 8: of the AAU circuit and being able to travel and
[1:22:00] Speaker 8: do all these things. But, you know, AAU has changed
[1:22:04] Speaker 8: a lot. Now, you know, kids are able to get
[1:22:06] Speaker 8: paid in high school, you know, NIL deals and different things. So,
[1:22:12] Speaker 8: The meaning of AAU isn't the same anymore like it
[1:22:14] Speaker 8: used to be. I still feel like the development, the
[1:22:17] Speaker 8: fact that AAU is just all weekend games is based
[1:22:21] Speaker 8: on rankings, is based on popularity and things like that.
[1:22:24] Speaker 8: So it does lack a bunch of the fundamentals and
[1:22:29] Speaker 8: the IQ of the game. So those are the things
[1:22:32] Speaker 8: that it does lack from playing with your high school
[1:22:35] Speaker 8: basketball team in high school. If I went to Oak
[1:22:37] Speaker 8: Hill or I went to a Dominguez or you know,
[1:22:39] Speaker 8: modern day or at least I actually being able to
[1:22:41] Speaker 8: be taught. AAU is just, you got to be good
[1:22:44] Speaker 8: and just run out there and play.
[1:22:45] Speaker 1: So. So KD, let's move on to you. When you,
[1:22:49] Speaker 1: when you hear KD speaking up and clapping back at
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: all the criticism that AAU gets compared to the European model,
[1:22:57] Speaker 1: how do you feel about that?
[1:23:01] Speaker 5: From not mistaking, he has an AAU program. So I'm
[1:23:05] Speaker 5: not surprised that he would speak up for the AAU program.
[1:23:08] Speaker 4: System. That said, I agree. There's a lot of.
[1:23:15] Speaker 5: Discourse around the way the game is being taught to
[1:23:18] Speaker 5: the youth. And I've been a part of it. I've
[1:23:25] Speaker 5: been a part of it. I've seen the good and
[1:23:30] Speaker 5: the bad of it. Like you said, a lot of
[1:23:31] Speaker 5: us are products of playing AAU basketball.
[1:23:35] Speaker 4: So it has its.
[1:23:39] Speaker 5: Positive moments, but it's become this thing where it's looked
[1:23:46] Speaker 5: at as a money grab in a lot of situations
[1:23:49] Speaker 5: instead of focusing on kids getting better. I don't think
[1:23:55] Speaker 5: we should be ranking fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth graders. I
[1:24:01] Speaker 5: think it's pointless to be putting rankings next to kids
[1:24:05] Speaker 5: because you don't know what they're going to become.
[1:24:08] Speaker 4: Some pan out, some don't. So I think it's a,
[1:24:11] Speaker 4: it's a false sense of.
[1:24:15] Speaker 5: Gratification, right? To be ranked at, in the seventh grade. Like,
[1:24:20] Speaker 5: who cares? Like, let's go get better, right? Let's, let's
[1:24:23] Speaker 5: go get better at the game. Let's go get better
[1:24:25] Speaker 5: at the footwork. Let's go get better at the fundamentals
[1:24:27] Speaker 5: at those ages. And I think it's, it'll be beneficial
[1:24:31] Speaker 5: moving forward, um, in that regard. But, I, like, yeah,
[1:24:34] Speaker 5: for KD to speak up, I'm not surprised. Um, He
[1:24:37] Speaker 5: speaks his mind. And for him to have an AAU
[1:24:42] Speaker 5: program and to have it for years now, I can
[1:24:46] Speaker 5: understand his frustration with people taking shots at the AAU system. So, yeah,
[1:24:54] Speaker 5: I get it. So I get where he's coming from.
[1:24:56] Speaker 5: But people have left room for criticism with it. But, yes,
[1:25:04] Speaker 5: I get where he's coming from, though.
[1:25:07] Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that the European model can't be
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: criticized as well. Obviously, I think Katie also mentioned how
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: the game is growing globally, and that's a testament to
[1:25:16] Speaker 1: what's been done at the grassroots level of American basketball.
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: AAU produces such high-level, high-quality talent. The world is sought
[1:25:22] Speaker 1: to try to replicate it. But, Gil, let's move on
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: to you. What do you think about Katie clapping back
[1:25:26] Speaker 1: at all the critics of AAU?
[1:25:28] Speaker 2: Um.
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: You know, just so hard to find him in this
[1:25:43] Speaker 2: long list of all-stars and superstars. Man, Brandon, I mean,
[1:25:51] Speaker 2: you know, I think, you know, after, you know, the
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: all-star game, he done kind of changed his tone a
[1:25:56] Speaker 2: little bit about the.
[1:25:56] Speaker 1: I haven't seen his shit. I haven't seen his fucking name.
[1:26:01] Speaker 8: You sound very nice, man. I mean, that's what he said.
[1:26:05] Speaker 8: That's fine. He can say what the fuck you want
[1:26:07] Speaker 8: to say. I'm not changing my fucking opinion on what
[1:26:09] Speaker 8: I feel about the Europeans.
[1:26:11] Speaker 3: They're busting our ass.
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: So get your fucking AAU programs and shit together.
[1:26:16] Speaker 8: At the end of the fucking day. At the end
[1:26:18] Speaker 8: of the fucking day, it's still what it is. At
[1:26:20] Speaker 8: the end of the day, it's still what it is.
[1:26:22] Speaker 8: Top five fucking players in the NBA are from fucking overseas.
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: So, with that part, and with that fucking part. I
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about all that.
[1:26:30] Speaker 14: You always lean on the championship.
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: I get that. The AAU programs, that's youth basketball, right? Right.
[1:26:34] Speaker 1: It's youth, right?
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: Right. So if they're developed and we're undeveloped and we
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: meet at, like, USA Basketball and the undeveloped keeps winning
[1:27:00] Speaker 2: gold every year, what are we talking about?
[1:27:04] Speaker 1: By a lot, though. Yes, when we.
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: Say all-star game, meaning the best 24 people here, That
[1:27:13] Speaker 2: means all the Americans went through AAU and then the
[1:27:17] Speaker 2: foreigners had to go through whatever prestige program that they
[1:27:25] Speaker 2: went through. The one that came from his country, right?
[1:27:29] Speaker 2: Just the one that came from his country. Shouldn't it
[1:27:34] Speaker 2: be upside down? Shouldn't it be 20 foreigners for Americans because.
[1:27:39] Speaker 1: We are not that good? Well, I mean, it's an
[1:27:42] Speaker 1: American sport.
[1:27:44] Speaker 2: I'm tired of this bullshit conversation of one person.
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: Coming out of his country and we should shift our
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: whole program. Our whole program because one Greek guy who's
[1:28:00] Speaker 1: our color, who's playing like.
[1:28:02] Speaker 2: Us, running motherfuckers over, is from over there, Joel and B,
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: who's from his country, he got our attributes, what.
[1:28:11] Speaker 8: Everybody asks, but he's from.
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: Over there, and we're pretending that the rest of the world.
[1:28:19] Speaker 1: Is actually doing this. Okay, how about this? Where's Jokic from? Serbia.
[1:28:28] Speaker 2: Is there another one that is cool? Don't need to
[1:28:32] Speaker 2: be one. I'm asking a question. You're telling them you
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: need to be programmed. You're saying you need to be programmed.
[1:28:38] Speaker 2: So what you're going to ask.
[1:28:39] Speaker 1: Is, another one from his country.
[1:28:43] Speaker 2: That is playing high-level basketball in the NBA?
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: Don't need to be one. We got one. Is there
[1:28:51] Speaker 1: another from Greece? Is there another from Italy? in today's game.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: Is there another for what I'm saying?
[1:28:58] Speaker 3: You're telling us.
[1:29:04] Speaker 1: Our shit is broken. Our shit is broken. Our shit
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: is broken. Our shit is broken. The AAU program is broken.
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: The best niggas in the league are from overseas. Dude, dude, dude, stop. No,
[1:29:15] Speaker 1: you stop. You stop. You stop it. Nobody care about
[1:29:19] Speaker 1: the AAU. Fuck all that. My point is that the
[1:29:23] Speaker 1: best players. Back then it was the shit. Back then
[1:29:28] Speaker 1: it was the shit. Now that shit is trash. Fuck
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: out of here. Fuck you talking about. Fuck out of here.
[1:29:34] Speaker 12: The best five players in the NBA are from overseas.
[1:29:37] Speaker 12: What the fuck are you talking about?
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: I don't care. The best five. That's all my conversation
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: has been. That's all they need. That's all they need.
[1:29:47] Speaker 1: That's all they need. That's all they need. And it's
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: going to be like that for the next 10 years.
[1:29:51] Speaker 1: It's going to be like that for the next 10 years.
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on.
[1:29:54] Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's going to be like
[1:29:56] Speaker 2: this for the next 10 years. You're talking about all
[1:29:59] Speaker 2: these different countries that got these five players, these five
[1:30:03] Speaker 2: players in all these different countries. How many fucking countries
[1:30:05] Speaker 2: is that?
[1:30:06] Speaker 1: All of those countries have the same formula.
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: They got one player that is gifted and they're pouring
[1:30:13] Speaker 2: at the country's point.
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: Everything gets, that's like being the NBA.
[1:30:16] Speaker 2: Player from fucking, you know what? That's like being LeBron
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: James from Akron, Ohio. And then we say, Hey, the
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: rest of the States, fuck your program. Do what Cleveland did.
[1:30:29] Speaker 2: Do what Akron did because LeBron James came from it.
[1:30:33] Speaker 3: Sure.
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe you should have, maybe you should have. Maybe
[1:30:36] Speaker 1: you should have. Maybe you should have. Maybe you should have.
[1:30:39] Speaker 2: Because Luka's whole country, Luka's whole country is working with him.
[1:30:44] Speaker 1: It's a bunch of different countries. It ain't just one.
[1:30:46] Speaker 1: It's a bunch of different countries. It's a bunch of
[1:30:48] Speaker 1: different countries. And those two Gs created that. Okay, well, shit.
[1:30:53] Speaker 12: Stop letting people from overseas come over here.
[1:30:57] Speaker 2: There's a Yao coming out of China, and she out
[1:30:59] Speaker 2: here ducking on motherfuckers. Because of Yao Ming and the
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: mama six damn nine, obviously the product is going to
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: be better.
[1:31:09] Speaker 6: Look at Giannis.
[1:31:09] Speaker 1: Look at Giannis and his brothers. Look at Giannis and
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: his brothers. Look at the product. That is three NBA players.
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: What kind of genetics do they have? All these excuses.
[1:31:20] Speaker 1: There's no excuses. It is excuses.
[1:31:23] Speaker 8: You mad because some kids that grew up overseas that
[1:31:26] Speaker 8: dream to come play in the NBA and they dominate
[1:31:28] Speaker 8: and now you mad?
[1:31:30] Speaker 1: Get your shit together over here.
[1:31:31] Speaker 12: Get your shit together over here when it comes to development.
[1:31:35] Speaker 2: At the end of the day, at the end of
[1:31:37] Speaker 2: the day, These five European players, international players that's over here, they're.
[1:31:41] Speaker 1: Going to be running the league for the next 10 years.
[1:31:44] Speaker 1: So it don't matter. So all this A & U shit,
[1:31:46] Speaker 1: it don't matter. It don't matter. Five, six, it's going
[1:31:49] Speaker 1: to be more.
[1:31:51] Speaker 12: Like you're sitting up here acting like, like what are
[1:31:54] Speaker 12: we talking about?
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: So you keep saying that you keep leaning on their
[1:31:59] Speaker 2: running lead. The problem is we're not saying who's the best.
[1:32:03] Speaker 2: We know those five are the best. You're saying tear
[1:32:06] Speaker 2: down our program. You're saying tear down our program. And 98%
[1:32:12] Speaker 2: of the superstars in the NBA are American.
[1:32:15] Speaker 1: It's an American sport, I would hope. It's an American sport,
[1:32:18] Speaker 1: I hope. It's an American sport, I fucking hope. Shit,
[1:32:22] Speaker 1: it's easy to make it. You fucking American. You can
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: speak English. You better be able to make the motherfucker.
[1:32:27] Speaker 3: Goddamn. The fuck are you talking about?
[1:32:29] Speaker 1: The fuck are you talking about?
[1:32:31] Speaker 3: It's an American sport.
[1:32:32] Speaker 1: Like, shit.
[1:32:33] Speaker 12: God damn. Like, they got the easier access. Of course,
[1:32:37] Speaker 12: you shouldn't.
[1:32:38] Speaker 1: Make it to the NBA. You're talking about some dude
[1:32:40] Speaker 1: that's from.
[1:32:41] Speaker 12: Fucking Africa that barely got shoes, that can barely speak
[1:32:44] Speaker 12: a fucking language, pick up a ball and learn at
[1:32:46] Speaker 12: 16 and come over here and dominate?
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: Man, watch out. Man, watch out. Man, go get your
[1:32:51] Speaker 1: development ready. Go get your development ready. All that money
[1:32:54] Speaker 1: that y'all giving.
[1:32:55] Speaker 8: to these kids go put that shit back into the
[1:32:57] Speaker 8: gym like it was back in the day fuck out
[1:32:59] Speaker 8: of here man.
[1:33:00] Speaker 2: And you're telling us you're telling us that's what they
[1:33:04] Speaker 2: have over there and you want us to do that.
[1:33:08] Speaker 8: I didn't say you had to do that what i'm
[1:33:09] Speaker 8: saying is figure it out do something you got all
[1:33:12] Speaker 8: this other access and they still coming over here dumb
[1:33:15] Speaker 8: is dude.
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: It's six guys right now you're talking about figure it
[1:33:19] Speaker 2: out Figure something out.
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: I mean, why?
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: Just because there was a foreigner that was drafted number one.
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: How's he doing? How's his development?
[1:33:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:33:30] Speaker 1: How's the number two? We got to see. We got
[1:33:32] Speaker 1: to see. We got to see. We got to see.
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: All I know is the other international players, they're cooking.
[1:33:37] Speaker 2: That's all I can go by.
[1:33:40] Speaker 8: Until you find me one American player that's better than
[1:33:44] Speaker 8: this international player.
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: Find me one that's better than the top.
[1:33:47] Speaker 6: No, no.
[1:33:48] Speaker 3: I'm going to.
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to.
[1:33:51] Speaker 2: Until you find the fucking answer, I'm going to. Find
[1:33:54] Speaker 2: me one.
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: Find me one. Find me one.
[1:33:58] Speaker 2: Find me one. And then pretend all of Canada's doing it.
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: It's just the gifted one. Not all of Canada. What
[1:34:06] Speaker 1: are you talking about? Justin Bieber? Justin Bieber? The Weeknd?
[1:34:09] Speaker 1: Justin Bieber? The Weeknd? Justin Bieber? The Weeknd? Tory Lanez?
[1:34:15] Speaker 1: Talk about this. Other people. Other people. You can't make
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: these names. What are you talking about? Stop making percentage.
[1:34:23] Speaker 2: It's one person from this country, one person from this country,
[1:34:27] Speaker 2: one person from this country. That's great.
[1:34:30] Speaker 1: They're talented.
[1:34:32] Speaker 2: The one thing that they all got, genetics from their
[1:34:34] Speaker 2: parents that makes them 6'11, 6'10, 6'11, 6'9, and they're
[1:34:40] Speaker 2: good at what they do.
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: But don't pretend that the country... The country is doing
[1:34:47] Speaker 1: this to the point where we need to follow. We
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: need to follow this one in a zillion product. Better
[1:34:56] Speaker 1: figure something out. There's not going to be another Rupa
[1:35:00] Speaker 1: from his country.
[1:35:01] Speaker 8: Better figure something out for the next 10 years.
[1:35:05] Speaker 10: We don't know that.
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: We don't know that. We don't know that. We don't
[1:35:08] Speaker 1: know that. You don't know what guy got his story.
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: You don't know that. You're just talking. You don't know that.
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: You don't know that. You don't know that at all.
[1:35:15] Speaker 6: Overseas, you feel like you developed more over there than
[1:35:18] Speaker 6: when you was out here.
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: All I'm saying is the game has changed. The game
[1:35:23] Speaker 1: has changed. The game has changed. The game has changed.
[1:35:25] Speaker 1: The game has changed. The game has changed. The game
[1:35:29] Speaker 1: has changed.
[1:35:30] Speaker 3: So you said you learned more in that one year.
[1:35:32] Speaker 1: I went top ten. I went top ten. I didn't
[1:35:34] Speaker 1: even play. Yes.
[1:35:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: So you didn't learn shit over there.
[1:35:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, I went top ten. Exactly.
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. I went over there and developed. American shit. Anyways.
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: American shit.
[1:35:44] Speaker 3: American shit.
[1:35:45] Speaker 1: This is your number one rink. Went over there.
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: Sit down.
[1:35:49] Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: Didn't do shit. And you still got American shit.
[1:35:53] Speaker 3: I did do shit.
[1:35:54] Speaker 8: The only reason why I didn't get drafted high, the
[1:35:55] Speaker 8: only reason why I didn't get drafted high, because I
[1:35:57] Speaker 8: ran my mouth. That's the only reason why. Don't play
[1:35:58] Speaker 8: about my game. Don't play about my game. Don't play
[1:36:01] Speaker 8: about my game. Don't play about my game.
[1:36:03] Speaker 1: No, don't play about my game. No, you said I
[1:36:06] Speaker 1: went over there and did. You said I went over
[1:36:08] Speaker 1: there and didn't do nothing.
[1:36:09] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:36:10] Speaker 1: I went over there and did something. Did you play?
[1:36:12] Speaker 1: I did play. I played enough to get- You got drafted.
[1:36:16] Speaker 1: I got drafted tip because I ran my mouth. Because
[1:36:18] Speaker 1: I ran my mouth.
[1:36:19] Speaker 2: Because I know- Listen to what he's saying.
[1:36:23] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen to
[1:36:26] Speaker 1: what he's saying. No, no, you're no, no, I'm not.
[1:36:29] Speaker 7: No, you said I went over there and didn't do nothing.
[1:36:31] Speaker 7: I went over there, I did do something. I went 10,
[1:36:34] Speaker 7: I only went 10. I would have went top five
[1:36:36] Speaker 7: if I didn't run my mouth. Listen to what we're saying.
[1:36:39] Speaker 7: So stop saying that, so- You came over here.
[1:36:42] Speaker 1: You was here, right? You developed here, right? You was
[1:36:47] Speaker 1: number one here, right? I mean, I'm an American player.
[1:36:51] Speaker 1: Everything you did, winking, your development, your averaging this, you
[1:36:55] Speaker 1: led the state and the country. You did that here, right?
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: You went over there. Did you play a game over there? Yes,
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: I did play games. You played in a Euro game?
[1:37:06] Speaker 1: I played in games over there, yes. Show us some footage.
[1:37:12] Speaker 1: You thought I went over there and didn't play? Go
[1:37:14] Speaker 1: on YouTube. You didn't play not one game over in Europe.
[1:37:17] Speaker 1: I did. I did go play in Europe.
[1:37:19] Speaker 8: Why would they take me over there and not play
[1:37:20] Speaker 8: in Europe?
[1:37:21] Speaker 1: Did you perform over there? I did go play in Europe.
[1:37:24] Speaker 1: I went top ten.
[1:37:25] Speaker 4: Okay, you went over.
[1:37:26] Speaker 1: Okay, I see your wordplay. You went over there. I
[1:37:28] Speaker 1: went over there and played. I played in a basketball game.
[1:37:31] Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you was a lottery pick. You
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: was a lottery pick. No, I wasn't.
[1:37:37] Speaker 2: You was a lottery pick because of what you did
[1:37:40] Speaker 2: from America. They didn't need your year or nothing. You
[1:37:43] Speaker 2: was bought in a year and you was a product.
[1:37:46] Speaker 1: They had me going 21. They had me going 21.
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: They had me going 21. So I wasn't a lottery.
[1:37:51] Speaker 2: You was ranked number one.
[1:37:52] Speaker 3: Why are you lying to me?
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: Oh, man. God damn. Go ask my agent. Bill Duffy.
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: The same day.
[1:37:58] Speaker 6: They said I wasn't going lottery.
[1:38:00] Speaker 1: Why do you think I didn't go?
[1:38:02] Speaker 3: I knew you.
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: They was like, yo, we got the Brandon Kitties number one.
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: He want your shoe. Young Money on it. Was that
[1:38:07] Speaker 1: from Italy? Young Money? Huh? You forgot?
[1:38:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: Young Money. What does that have to do? What does
[1:38:13] Speaker 1: that have to do? What does that have to do
[1:38:16] Speaker 1: with it?
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: When you got your Under Armour deal... Was you a
[1:38:20] Speaker 2: product of Euro or was you the first American high
[1:38:23] Speaker 2: school player to lead.
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: And go over there? I was the first American high
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: school player to go over there.
[1:38:31] Speaker 2: That dusty, leave that dusty overseas shit over there. We'll take,
[1:38:34] Speaker 2: we'll take the gold.
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: And the diamonds.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: You can leave that silver, them silver players, them peso players,
[1:38:43] Speaker 2: them penny players. You keep their asses over there.
[1:38:48] Speaker 1: Don't talk about my time.
[1:38:49] Speaker 2: You know how they got an Olympic team and they
[1:38:51] Speaker 2: got like 14 other players that we've.
[1:38:53] Speaker 1: Never heard of. Are they all brothers? I'm just, I'm confused. Okay.
[1:38:58] Speaker 1: Right here. What we're doing right here.
[1:39:01] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:39:01] Speaker 2: Some of it needs to be cleaned up.
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
[1:39:17] Speaker 2: But the product of the top tier is still the
[1:39:20] Speaker 2: product of the top tier.
[1:39:22] Speaker 1: The top tier always gets to the top.
[1:39:25] Speaker 2: It's a money grab, but the money grab is the
[1:39:27] Speaker 2: low level where I know this kid should.
[1:39:29] Speaker 1: Be playing at the park league.
[1:39:34] Speaker 2: I know his mother's going to start a team up,
[1:39:38] Speaker 2: and I'm going to coach the team, and I'm going
[1:39:39] Speaker 2: to get a whole bunch of his friends, and we're
[1:39:41] Speaker 2: going to go to every AAU team or whatever game.
[1:39:43] Speaker 2: We're going to get blown out by 45, of course,
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: but I get the money.
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: That's what happened here.
[1:39:51] Speaker 2: But the product itself, the top tier, that's still moving
[1:39:55] Speaker 2: like gold.
[1:39:57] Speaker 3: Of course.
[1:39:57] Speaker 1: It's America. We have to. Thank you. Thank you. Now
[1:40:02] Speaker 1: put your flag back on. It's our league. Put that
[1:40:04] Speaker 1: American flag back on.
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: Brother, you know this color is only good every four.
[1:40:13] Speaker 1: Years. Until one of us start cracking in that top five,
[1:40:20] Speaker 1: I can't.
[1:40:22] Speaker 3: I can't.
[1:40:22] Speaker 1: And this look like we're going to be here for
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: a long time.
[1:40:25] Speaker 3: So, Mr.
[1:40:27] Speaker 4: Technically, Shay is not a European.
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: Thank you, Ken.
[1:40:33] Speaker 3: Thank you, Ken.
[1:40:34] Speaker 4: Hey, Ken.
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: He's international. Ken, do we need a passport? Do we
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: need a passport to get in Canada? For what? But
[1:40:42] Speaker 1: SGA played AAU. Do we need a passport to get
[1:40:44] Speaker 1: in Canada?
[1:40:44] Speaker 6: With the college here and AAU basketball in the United States.
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: In the Olympics, who is he playing for?
[1:40:54] Speaker 4: This country, where he was born, where his daddy was born.
[1:40:57] Speaker 8: So international players, top five international players are running the league.
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: He ain't from here.
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: And then if we really want to be technical about
[1:41:06] Speaker 2: it some more.
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: Do it, can.
[1:41:09] Speaker 3: You?
[1:41:10] Speaker 4: Giannis is Nigerian.
[1:41:12] Speaker 1: He's from Africa.
[1:41:14] Speaker 4: He's African. Joel Adidas from Cameroon.
[1:41:17] Speaker 3: He's American.
[1:41:18] Speaker 4: We learned that in.
[1:41:20] Speaker 1: History, but it's what we say.
[1:41:21] Speaker 5: Hey, that's all I'm... If we've been technical here, like,
[1:41:26] Speaker 5: if we've been technical, Shay is a Canadian.
[1:41:30] Speaker 4: He's a Northern American.
[1:41:32] Speaker 1: James Naismith, born in Canada. I mean, our money look different.
[1:41:37] Speaker 1: Our money look different. That's fair. Yeah, yeah. There's a
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: fine product for America. A great trade relationship in years past.
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: What does America do to you, man?
[1:41:47] Speaker 1: What does America do to you?
[1:41:49] Speaker 4: And right now, Cade.
[1:41:50] Speaker 1: Cade and Jason Brown.
[1:41:53] Speaker 4: In the top five.
[1:41:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure in that top.
[1:41:56] Speaker 4: Right now, Cade in the top five.
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: All right, let's wait till the end of the year.
[1:42:02] Speaker 4: Right now, Cade. Right now, Cade in the top five.
[1:42:05] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Listen, if Cade ain't going
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: to say that, then let's wait till the end of
[1:42:08] Speaker 1: the year then.
[1:42:09] Speaker 4: Right now, Cade in the top five, baby.
[1:42:11] Speaker 1: Kate, Victor, Victor, you know what I mean? Just because
[1:42:17] Speaker 1: they went over there and he was born there, but
[1:42:19] Speaker 1: the parents is the parents. You know what I mean?
[1:42:22] Speaker 2: Like, if I go to France, like, if I go
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: to France because my wife is French, my kid is American.
[1:42:31] Speaker 1: He's born there. He's American. What if he's born in France?
[1:42:34] Speaker 1: He came from these American bones. 50-50.
[1:42:38] Speaker 2: So if he's 6'9, playing point guard, God damn it,
[1:42:41] Speaker 2: you're claiming him here.
[1:42:43] Speaker 1: No, wait, hold on, Gil. He's going to play on.
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: The national team because he's probably going to be the man.
[1:42:48] Speaker 2: So we're going to figure that out.
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: Throw the USA flags in the chat, please, if you
[1:42:54] Speaker 1: don't mind. I just, you know, like supporting this great nation.
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: That's so much for it. Gil's arena is a product
[1:43:00] Speaker 1: of AAU. 2024? I was so disappointed in America. Why?
[1:43:07] Speaker 1: I never, ever, ever, ever.
[1:43:10] Speaker 2: Remember, I came into basketball in 92. The summer.
[1:43:17] Speaker 1: Okay. The Olympics.
[1:43:19] Speaker 2: I don't know if you was around then, Kenyon. That
[1:43:22] Speaker 2: was a good time for basketball. I was even buying
[1:43:29] Speaker 2: the women's jersey. That's how big it was being pushed.
[1:43:36] Speaker 1: No negative.
[1:43:38] Speaker 2: The first time we heard something negative, the 2014 maybe.
[1:43:44] Speaker 1: I've never seen a bunch.
[1:43:46] Speaker 2: Of reporters hoping, praying that the American team got beat.
[1:43:54] Speaker 1: Wait, what? That's the only time we.
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: I know you don't remember 1920s and 30s, right?
[1:44:05] Speaker 2: But Olympic time, the black people, they was in love
[1:44:09] Speaker 2: during the Olympics, boy.
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: There's so much hate. The 2024 was crazy.
[1:44:19] Speaker 3: Brandon was one of them.
[1:44:20] Speaker 2: Hey, do you think that has to do with the players, the.
[1:44:24] Speaker 3: International players in the NBA? Yeah, it's a brawl.
[1:44:26] Speaker 1: It's just a brawl.
[1:44:39] Speaker 2: They hated that cheat because LeBron was on it.
[1:44:42] Speaker 1: That's it. Right? That was it. It was just like.
[1:44:46] Speaker 2: If I put it like this, LeBron James is not
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: on this one, it's going to be loved.
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: I was about to.
[1:44:52] Speaker 8: Say, so LeBron not playing on this one, everything go
[1:44:54] Speaker 8: back to normal?
[1:44:55] Speaker 1: Yeah. Even like the Jason Tatum thing, right?
[1:45:00] Speaker 2: If we go back and look at any other year,
[1:45:03] Speaker 2: I guarantee there was a superstar on there that we
[1:45:05] Speaker 2: thought should have played but didn't play but nobody cared.
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: Because it was about the team.
[1:45:09] Speaker 4: First team all-NBA guy?
[1:45:13] Speaker 1: NBA champion?
[1:45:14] Speaker 4: I doubt that. I don't know that one. A first
[1:45:18] Speaker 4: team all-NBA guy?
[1:45:20] Speaker 1: Okay, maybe not that.
[1:45:21] Speaker 4: A DMP?
[1:45:22] Speaker 1: Not a chance. Coming off an NBA championship?
[1:45:27] Speaker 4: Not a chance.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: I know Shaquille O'Neal and Damon Wright have averaged 30
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: and 12, 30 and 10, and they came off the
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: bench on their Olympic team.
[1:45:37] Speaker 8: They played 30 and 12 off the field.
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, both of them.
[1:45:43] Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: Unstoppable. That's retarded. 30 and 12. Yeah.
[1:45:51] Speaker 4: Unstoppable.
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: And a follow-up question to you guys on this whole
[1:45:56] Speaker 1: AAU discourse. For everybody who seems to be so pro
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: the European style and the European model, it seems like
[1:46:02] Speaker 1: there's enough resources and money here in America to do that.
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: But is college the issue? Is that the roadblocks?
[1:46:08] Speaker 4: It used to be.
[1:46:09] Speaker 1: What?
[1:46:11] Speaker 4: It used to be.
[1:46:12] Speaker 1: Because what's the problem? Why can't you just introduce that
[1:46:15] Speaker 1: model here? We hear even Adam Silver talking about how
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: great the European model is, prioritizing practice and development, blah, blah, blah.
[1:46:23] Speaker 1: Why can't you just do.
[1:46:23] Speaker 3: This shit here?
[1:46:25] Speaker 5: Because, Kyle, people have been taught or heard for so
[1:46:28] Speaker 5: long you ought to go to college, right? It's what
[1:46:31] Speaker 5: you've been hearing forever. Instead of People that know what
[1:46:35] Speaker 5: their professional, like, you know what you're going to try
[1:46:37] Speaker 5: to be in this world, right?
[1:46:39] Speaker 4: But they force motherfuckers to go to school. Like, no, man, like,
[1:46:43] Speaker 4: trust me. There's a lot of guys that went to
[1:46:45] Speaker 4: school that had no intentions on that. Just, they forced
[1:46:50] Speaker 4: me into this.
[1:46:51] Speaker 5: That's why when guys could make the decision at 17,
[1:46:54] Speaker 5: 18 years old to go to the NBA, like Brandon,
[1:46:58] Speaker 5: they did, right?
[1:47:00] Speaker 4: Too good for that. I'm not going to go that route. No,
[1:47:02] Speaker 4: they're not going to force me to go do that.
[1:47:06] Speaker 5: And now they've made it a way where guys can
[1:47:09] Speaker 5: make that decision now to go get some money and
[1:47:11] Speaker 5: get paid and somewhat be treated as a professional athlete,
[1:47:15] Speaker 5: but you're still in college. So that's, yeah, it's still
[1:47:19] Speaker 5: handicapped to a certain degree. There's still laws in place,
[1:47:21] Speaker 5: there are rules in place that still makes college relevant
[1:47:29] Speaker 5: to whatever degree.
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: That's my only point. We know that, but why is
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: that still a roadblock? Again, if you want to praise
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: that style and everybody, we need to be like that.
[1:47:38] Speaker 1: We can't do that here.
[1:47:42] Speaker 5: You can circumvent it like we did. Like KJ did.
[1:47:45] Speaker 5: If you graduate high school, you just have to be
[1:47:48] Speaker 5: one year removed. Like Brandon did. You have to be
[1:47:51] Speaker 5: one year removed. They don't say you got to go
[1:47:53] Speaker 5: to college. You just got to find what route is
[1:47:57] Speaker 5: best for The person everybody wants.
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:48:02] Speaker 5: And I get why they did away with the with
[1:48:04] Speaker 5: the fresh out of high school thing, because it was
[1:48:08] Speaker 5: some people that were putting their name in the NBA
[1:48:11] Speaker 5: draft that wasn't deserving to put their name in the
[1:48:14] Speaker 5: NBA draft.
[1:48:15] Speaker 4: It had no future. It had no future at playing
[1:48:18] Speaker 4: in the NBA.
[1:48:19] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:48:20] Speaker 5: So I get why they did away with it. Yeah,
[1:48:22] Speaker 5: but you had a future, though.
[1:48:23] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:48:24] Speaker 3: They told me... You said, I tried. take my ass
[1:48:27] Speaker 3: to school.
[1:48:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:48:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, because they probably saw that. It would have probably
[1:48:31] Speaker 4: been rough.
[1:48:32] Speaker 6: If you're trying to come out now, they're going to
[1:48:34] Speaker 6: make you the poster boy of why not come out
[1:48:36] Speaker 6: of high school.
[1:48:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, so you listen, right?
[1:48:39] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: Hey, some dudes didn't then. Somebody heard that same message
[1:48:43] Speaker 4: before they told you that, Nick, right?
[1:48:45] Speaker 3: Right.
[1:48:46] Speaker 4: They told somebody else that same message.
[1:48:48] Speaker 1: For sure.
[1:48:49] Speaker 4: And I guarantee they took their ass.
[1:48:50] Speaker 5: What's the big white kid, Robert Swift?
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I remember him. I played against him.
[1:48:56] Speaker 4: No way feasible. He should have been putting his name
[1:48:58] Speaker 4: in the NBA draft, dog.
[1:48:59] Speaker 1: Robert Swift.
[1:49:01] Speaker 4: No way feasible. That kid had no reason to ever...
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: But somebody hyped him up, and they told him probably,
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: and damn Dan thinks that me was breezy.
[1:49:16] Speaker 1: You know there's a test going on right now? And
[1:49:22] Speaker 1: you know there's this.
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: Thing called college basketball?
[1:49:25] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Right?
[1:49:26] Speaker 1: You know how they have the NIL? Mm-hmm.
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: Because there's this big discourse of European players are the thing,
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: people don't realize college basketball has been flooded with Euro pros. See,
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: Euro don't have AAU. They have pros. So they turn pro.
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: So it's even worse than us because they're getting paid 14.
[1:49:57] Speaker 2: They're not even going to school.
[1:49:58] Speaker 3: So.
[1:49:59] Speaker 1: These Euro pros who's been pro.
[1:50:01] Speaker 2: Since 14, they are 22.
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: 23, coming in to college basketball right now.
[1:50:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:50:10] Speaker 1: Have you heard of one of them yet?
[1:50:17] Speaker 4: You're going to stand out? You're going to stand out?
[1:50:20] Speaker 2: So you got kids who've been playing pro basketball with
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: adults since 2014. 14, 15 years old. They're coming in college.
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: They're the oldest and the more ready. But they're not dominating?
[1:50:35] Speaker 1: I'm confused here. Because that's what the colleges thought.
[1:50:41] Speaker 2: They thought, hey, why pay a freshman four-star, five-star when
[1:50:44] Speaker 2: we can go get some of these kids over the water,
[1:50:46] Speaker 2: these pros, these brothers, bring them over here.
[1:50:49] Speaker 1: They seven foot. We got 6'11, seven foot at our
[1:50:51] Speaker 1: four and five.
[1:50:52] Speaker 2: They've been playing pro for 20 fucking 10 years now.
[1:50:55] Speaker 1: They're 23 freshmen.
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: Did you know why, Gil?
[1:50:59] Speaker 5: Because they got motherfucking Ray Ray. That's some goddamn Memphis.
[1:51:04] Speaker 5: They got a 47. They don't have it. You got
[1:51:10] Speaker 5: a 47 inch vertical, so he out there, motherfucker. I'm
[1:51:12] Speaker 5: sitting here looking.
[1:51:13] Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking, where are you? Because I'm looking at
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: these names.
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: I go to the college, looking at the college board,
[1:51:18] Speaker 2: and it's, here you go. Because this is pay to
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: play now. So just like our media is doing it,
[1:51:27] Speaker 2: the college is.
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: Thinking the same way.
[1:51:28] Speaker 2: We're going to go out there and go get the
[1:51:30] Speaker 2: pros from overseas, bring some of them to your real kid,
[1:51:33] Speaker 2: because we can pay them more. So you got to
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: think about the NIL money has changed everything because the
[1:51:39] Speaker 2: Euro kids that are making $ 200, 000, $ 300, 000, hey, I can
[1:51:44] Speaker 2: pay you a million, million, five.
[1:51:46] Speaker 1: They're like, oh, hell yeah.
[1:51:51] Speaker 6: Do you think that draft last year fucked up the
[1:51:54] Speaker 6: European scoring draft?
[1:51:56] Speaker 1: Nah.
[1:51:58] Speaker 3: Being drafted is like number one and stuff. In the
[1:52:02] Speaker 3: last two years, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:52:04] Speaker 6: Did any Europeans go high this past draft at Cooper Flats?
[1:52:09] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[1:52:10] Speaker 1: Like, it.
[1:52:13] Speaker 3: VJ.
[1:52:13] Speaker 2: Would be considered, you know, bohemian, but, you know. From over,
[1:52:18] Speaker 2: I mean, from outside of here.
[1:52:20] Speaker 4: You need a passport to get there.
[1:52:22] Speaker 1: It was heavy, uh, yeah.
[1:52:24] Speaker 6: You need a passport to get there. Three of the
[1:52:30] Speaker 6: top three of the top ten are international.
[1:52:32] Speaker 1: So, VJ, uh, Igor Denim, who went to the Nets,
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: and then Kamen Malik, who went to Duke, was from
[1:52:40] Speaker 1: South Sudan. See, the problem is this.
[1:52:43] Speaker 2: Like, when you're talking about the European and you got
[1:52:49] Speaker 2: Euro in your mind, you have.
[1:52:50] Speaker 1: To really be careful. Because... You got Saar, right?
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: Who should have been the number one pick, right? He
[1:53:00] Speaker 2: fits the model of everyone that's been dominating. 6'8, I mean, 6'10, 11,
[1:53:05] Speaker 2: 7 foot, you know, got the skill, can shoot, can.
[1:53:08] Speaker 1: Play D, can jump.
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: Him.
[1:53:11] Speaker 1: Then you got a 6'8. Shooting guard that's not athletic,
[1:53:18] Speaker 1: not super fast. Like, what is this?
[1:53:22] Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's no standout here.
[1:53:26] Speaker 2: Why would I pick him, number one? He has, there's
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: no attributes that outshine. He doesn't have an advantage over everybody.
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: That's why when he got here and he said, oh, man,
[1:53:35] Speaker 2: it was way.
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: More athletic than I thought. Right? So, you know what
[1:53:39] Speaker 1: I mean? So, you can see that was going to
[1:53:42] Speaker 1: be a problem.
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: They're not really athletic like that though.
[1:53:47] Speaker 1: But height helps you though.
[1:53:48] Speaker 4: Oh, Europeans?
[1:53:49] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not looking like you. But
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: you got to think about it. Like, when you're talking
[1:53:54] Speaker 2: about France, right? France has what? How many kids in, what.
[1:54:00] Speaker 1: 12, 13? They're black.
[1:54:04] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:54:04] Speaker 3: So they got the athleticism.
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: He just didn't have it. But the rest of them do.
[1:54:09] Speaker 2: So, obviously, France has all black people.
[1:54:12] Speaker 3: He's just 7'6.
[1:54:14] Speaker 1: Yo, but why do they do that, like, in the draft?
[1:54:16] Speaker 8: Like, they'll draft a guy like Wimby, and then they'll
[1:54:19] Speaker 8: try to go get another one, like, the next year
[1:54:22] Speaker 8: after that.
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: Copycat Lee? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's
[1:54:27] Speaker 1: like they... I feel like they do that a lot, though. Like, they... Okay, listen.
[1:54:33] Speaker 1: I played with Turkoglu, right? And I was... When I
[1:54:37] Speaker 1: got drafted, we had... I've had a foreigner... I've had
[1:54:41] Speaker 1: a foreigner. We had, what the hell was his name?
[1:54:44] Speaker 3: Yuri.
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: I had Yuri. He was cool.
[1:54:48] Speaker 2: Like he was shifty, kind of like a Ginobili style,
[1:54:50] Speaker 2: but wasn't really truly Ginobili. When you're talking about the
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: European player, remember, you're talking about the one star from
[1:55:01] Speaker 2: the country. So when you're drafting this player, you have
[1:55:06] Speaker 2: to understand that If he is that good, the system
[1:55:11] Speaker 2: has to be for him because that's why he's shining.
[1:55:16] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:55:17] Speaker 2: So if you're not smart enough to understand what you're drafting,
[1:55:21] Speaker 2: like if I'm drafting Jokic and I'm looking at him,
[1:55:25] Speaker 2: the reason he is this dominant over there is because
[1:55:28] Speaker 2: of the elements he has. So if I'm going to
[1:55:30] Speaker 2: put him on my team, I'm going to put these
[1:55:33] Speaker 2: elements around him for him to look the way he
[1:55:35] Speaker 2: was looking for me.
[1:55:36] Speaker 1: To draft him.
[1:55:38] Speaker 2: You can't just, I'm just gonna draft him, right? And
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: then he's just part of my team and he's part
[1:55:43] Speaker 2: of my system, right? Either I'm gonna pick him for
[1:55:46] Speaker 2: a role player or I'm gonna pick him for being
[1:55:49] Speaker 2: a star.
[1:55:50] Speaker 1: Giddy was a role player in OKC. They put the
[1:55:55] Speaker 1: ball in his hand. Over here, he looks different, right?
[1:56:01] Speaker 1: Luka got drafted in Dallas. They had Dennis Smith Jr., right?
[1:56:07] Speaker 1: Kind of looked like they were clashing a little bit,
[1:56:08] Speaker 1: trying to figure out who the ball. And I was like,
[1:56:10] Speaker 1: you know what?
[1:56:10] Speaker 2: We'll just give it the big one, the ball. Let's
[1:56:12] Speaker 2: see what he does with it. And now you can
[1:56:14] Speaker 2: see what it is. But I, like, even with the,
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: we had Turk. I'm like, well, put the ball in
[1:56:22] Speaker 2: Turk's hand, and then we just move off of Turk.
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: It's like a European player. Think of it as... You
[1:56:33] Speaker 1: think of him as a point guard.
[1:56:35] Speaker 2: How we think our point guards, our old school point guards,
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: the Jason Keyes and all of them, that's the European
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: player no matter the height. If you get a center,
[1:56:44] Speaker 2: he's a thinker. He's looking for the back doors. He's
[1:56:48] Speaker 2: doing all of that.
[1:56:50] Speaker 1: You can put them in a triangle.
[1:56:53] Speaker 2: That's the group you put in a triangle or the Princeton.
[1:56:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, heat it up. Besides Giannis. Giannis is one of us.
[1:57:03] Speaker 1: You know. Like he from Compton or somewhere. Give him
[1:57:09] Speaker 1: the box. Give him the box. From the French part
[1:57:13] Speaker 1: of Compton.
[1:57:13] Speaker 4: From the French part of Compton.
[1:57:18] Speaker 1: Oh, man. Chris Boss. Something happen with Chris Boss? Oh, yo. Recovery.
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: I guess something happened. He blacked out in a I
[1:57:29] Speaker 1: liked how it was woke up in blood. Oh, shit.
[1:57:33] Speaker 2: All right, wishes out to Chris Bosch, man.
[1:57:41] Speaker 1: Speedy recovery to Chris Bosch. He was looking to be
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: alive after he woke up in his own blood after
[1:57:47] Speaker 1: collapsing while getting ready for a date night with his wife.
[1:57:52] Speaker 3: You should never report people stuff like that. Let Josiah
[1:57:55] Speaker 3: do that.
[1:57:58] Speaker 1: Thank you, Swaggs. Yeah, he dropped a video on social
[1:58:00] Speaker 1: media today. He said he has no memory of it.
[1:58:06] Speaker 1: He had black eyes from slamming his face on the ground.
[1:58:08] Speaker 1: Also swear the word to be grateful. for this life
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: and for not taking things for granted. And that is
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: actually a good segue to us. I think we should
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: all be thankful for this life.
[1:58:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:58:18] Speaker 1: And to not take things for granted as well. Definitely.
[1:58:21] Speaker 1: Don't take star players for granted. Don't take corners for granted. Listen,
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: we should all be grateful. We all get some rest.
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to.
[1:58:33] Speaker 3: Happen tomorrow, right?
[1:58:35] Speaker 2: I'm going to have my hand on the.
[1:58:42] Speaker 7: Hey, we should drink tomorrow.
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: So I'll take a shot. Hell no. As you know,
[1:58:50] Speaker 1: we used to turn up in the arena. Some got
[1:58:52] Speaker 1: more turnt than others. Interesting shows and content.
[1:58:56] Speaker 2: Hey, and Chad, stop asking me why I don't have some,
[1:59:00] Speaker 2: I don't make the schedule, okay?
[1:59:04] Speaker 1: The schedule is made like it's made every goddamn week, okay?
[1:59:08] Speaker 4: Every month, every month.
[1:59:09] Speaker 1: Every month, every month. We know in advance, we don't
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: deliberately time things. And now let me address that real quick,
[1:59:16] Speaker 1: because the chat be like, you didn't have such and
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: such on today, whatever. That's the schedule. That schedule is
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: put out. We are here to, I check the schedule
[1:59:22] Speaker 1: myself every night to see if my name is on there.
[1:59:24] Speaker 1: If it is, I come to work. If it's not,
[1:59:27] Speaker 1: if it's not, I do whatever the fuck I want
[1:59:29] Speaker 1: to do with that particular time off. But that schedule
[1:59:31] Speaker 1: is put in advance. Obviously we have Rashad on yesterday.
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: Rashad refuted some stories going out about him from Darren
[1:59:38] Speaker 1: Williams and others from other podcasting networks that are competing
[1:59:42] Speaker 1: with us. They're in the same league as us. We'll
[1:59:48] Speaker 1: say division. Sport, if you will. Niche, genre, whatever it
[1:59:53] Speaker 1: may be. Yeah, I mean, they're just, I think they're cultural.
[1:59:56] Speaker 1: They're just... More cultural, but... They're friendly podcasts, man.
[1:59:59] Speaker 4: That's just friendly.
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: They just, they vibe. So this has to be said
[2:00:04] Speaker 1: by Rashad. Rashad addressed those yesterday on the show. Rashad
[2:00:06] Speaker 1: not on the show today. Rashad will be on the
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: show tomorrow. If he wants to address what was said
[2:00:11] Speaker 1: today by them, he's more than happy to do so. Or,
[2:00:17] Speaker 1: or he cannot. And he can do it tonight or
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: go live. Yeah, you do suggest that our personal problems
[2:00:24] Speaker 1: go on our own live, but no. This is Gil's Arena.
[2:00:26] Speaker 1: We are an arena.
[2:00:29] Speaker 2: Gil said no more personal shit on here, man.
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: Everybody just keep that shit right.
[2:00:36] Speaker 3: I've seen that shit.
[2:00:37] Speaker 2: Right?
[2:00:40] Speaker 3: I just knew he was going to do that.
[2:00:43] Speaker 1: What? Troll, right? I knew it was coming, too. Right
[2:00:49] Speaker 1: after me and Kenny said something.
[2:00:50] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[2:00:51] Speaker 1: They didn't go.
[2:00:51] Speaker 3: With you, so you were by yourself. So he turned
[2:00:54] Speaker 3: it into something else.
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: Bro, we've been trolling the whole day.
[2:00:57] Speaker 3: You ever quit?
[2:00:59] Speaker 1: I never quit.
[2:01:02] Speaker 3: Yup.
[2:01:03] Speaker 1: Yup. I'm just saying, how am I supposed to know, nigga?
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: I wasn't there.
[2:01:08] Speaker 2: The only experience I know personally is this.
[2:01:14] Speaker 3: So I'm going to troll you.
[2:01:15] Speaker 1: I know what you want me to say, but here's
[2:01:17] Speaker 1: what you do to me.
[2:01:18] Speaker 2: I'm not going to say what you want me to say.
[2:01:20] Speaker 10: I'm about to go get a drink.
[2:01:27] Speaker 1: I'm about to go to HQ and get a drink.
[2:01:28] Speaker 1: Are you serious right now? I'm going to do the
[2:01:30] Speaker 1: same shit you do to me.
[2:01:31] Speaker 2: I don't have to say what you want me to say.
[2:01:34] Speaker 3: I can't.
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: Unnecessary.
[2:01:35] Speaker 3: That's why I got what you was doing. But everybody else,
[2:01:39] Speaker 3: they're getting in there.
[2:01:40] Speaker 1: Oh, man, stop. Because they were serious.
[2:01:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:01:44] Speaker 1: I didn't want to be. I didn't have to be.
[2:01:47] Speaker 3: Okay?
[2:01:48] Speaker 1: We are well aware. We are well aware. We know.
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm probably going to be on bullshit tomorrow,
[2:01:54] Speaker 2: depending on how the first seven minutes be.
[2:01:57] Speaker 3: Okay?
[2:01:57] Speaker 2: No, actually, it's depending on what happens in our graders
[2:02:01] Speaker 2: in the morning.
[2:02:02] Speaker 1: Right? Man, if I'm having a good feeling, I'm playing good,
[2:02:06] Speaker 1: people are dying, right?
[2:02:08] Speaker 3: Right?
[2:02:10] Speaker 1: Then I'm good.
[2:02:11] Speaker 2: That's two out of three. Embark, thank you for getting
[2:02:15] Speaker 2: all my stuff back that was cheated.
[2:02:18] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[2:02:18] Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
[2:02:20] Speaker 2: If I get robbed and cheated and then I'm really aggressive, then,
[2:02:23] Speaker 2: you know, I might be on some bullshit.
[2:02:25] Speaker 1: But you'll know the first five, six minutes.
[2:02:27] Speaker 3: That's two out of three. Only one nigga think I'm
[2:02:30] Speaker 3: a fake nigga.
[2:02:33] Speaker 1: No, see, just making up stuff. No, I just said,
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: you know.
[2:02:37] Speaker 6: Only one nigga think I'm a fake nigga.
[2:02:41] Speaker 3: I said, oh, my God.
[2:02:43] Speaker 1: If you win the first game, you're quitting. That's just
[2:02:46] Speaker 1: what you said. I was like that. That's all the
[2:02:48] Speaker 1: memory I got. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, the
[2:02:52] Speaker 1: anticipation and hype has been built up. Rashad is on
[2:02:56] Speaker 1: the show tomorrow.
[2:02:57] Speaker 3: I didn't help you yesterday.
[2:02:58] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[2:02:59] Speaker 2: It'd be wrong if I have the cemetery in the
[2:03:00] Speaker 2: back and then I wear a suit with the black.
[2:03:06] Speaker 4: I'll be swinging them tomorrow while y'all trolling one another.
[2:03:09] Speaker 4: I'll be swinging them tomorrow.
[2:03:11] Speaker 1: I'm just coming. I'm just coming.
[2:03:12] Speaker 4: I'm just coming.
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: I'm just coming. I'm just coming.
[2:03:14] Speaker 3: I'm just coming.
[2:03:16] Speaker 4: I'm just coming.
[2:03:18] Speaker 1: I'm just coming.
[2:03:23] Speaker 4: I'm about to go to the range now.
[2:03:25] Speaker 1: I'm about to go to.
[2:03:26] Speaker 4: The range now, man.
[2:03:28] Speaker 1: You think I'm a quitter? No, not the money.
[2:03:31] Speaker 5: Yes.
[2:03:34] Speaker 4: He asked this asshole first, man. This asshole just off top.
[2:03:38] Speaker 1: I think he presented it to the group and then
[2:03:40] Speaker 1: Gil tried to... No, no, he presented it to the group.
[2:03:43] Speaker 4: Then he went... No, he asked us individually.
[2:03:45] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I'm looking at the social cut that they
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: put together.
[2:03:48] Speaker 2: You're right.
[2:03:49] Speaker 4: No, he asked us individually and this asshole went first.
[2:03:53] Speaker 4: He asked this asshole first and this asshole just says
[2:03:56] Speaker 4: yes off the top.
[2:03:59] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:04:05] Speaker 2: The reason is because this wasn't on the rundown, I
[2:04:08] Speaker 2: didn't know what we was going to talk about.
[2:04:09] Speaker 1: I didn't know this was going to be a thing.
[2:04:12] Speaker 1: I kind of got a little hit, so I just
[2:04:14] Speaker 1: went with it. Unnecessary jab.
[2:04:16] Speaker 4: Unnecessary jab.
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: Unnecessary jab.
[2:04:17] Speaker 3: Unnecessary jab.
[2:04:28] Speaker 1: But once again, Rashad will be in the virtual ring tomorrow.
[2:04:32] Speaker 1: If he chooses to address whatever's been said, he is
[2:04:34] Speaker 1: more than welcome to do so.
[2:04:35] Speaker 5: Oh, we gonna address it. I saw him at the
[2:04:38] Speaker 5: gym this morning. He came by the gym this morning,
[2:04:40] Speaker 5: so hey.
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: Seems like, yeah, I mean, it's gonna have to do it.
[2:04:45] Speaker 4: He said he was looking for the heavy bag, so hey.
[2:04:48] Speaker 1: Technically, they went hard this morning.
[2:04:53] Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure we will see it as soon as
[2:04:56] Speaker 5: we get off the air.
[2:04:58] Speaker 1: We will check it out for research purposes only, but
[2:05:01] Speaker 1: appreciate everybody in this chat for pulling up today. I
[2:05:04] Speaker 1: appreciate everybody supporting the virtual arena while we wait to
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: get our new studio locked down. We appreciate the love
[2:05:09] Speaker 1: and support of y'all all showing up. Appreciate everybody.
[2:05:11] Speaker 4: We can say it again, a studio.
[2:05:16] Speaker 6: My house was in a studio.
[2:05:20] Speaker 10: It was nice.
[2:05:21] Speaker 1: And then we outgrew the basement.
[2:05:25] Speaker 3: You don't have to explain the climate. You don't have
[2:05:28] Speaker 3: to explain the climate.
[2:05:30] Speaker 1: I don't need to explain that dirt. You know what?
[2:05:32] Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you do that.
[2:05:34] Speaker 2: We're going to another studio.
[2:05:35] Speaker 10: The Gills Arena studio is still down there. I'll probably be.
[2:05:46] Speaker 2: Down there by myself or with the guys, but we
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: got to keep it small, you know, like five.
[2:05:52] Speaker 1: They said the five to seven people.
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: They don't want 30. They don't want the Wu-Tang Clan
[2:05:56] Speaker 2: in here no more. That's all they said.
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: No more Wu-Tang.
[2:05:59] Speaker 2: But the fact that we have two shows and we
[2:06:01] Speaker 2: have a staff.
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: Of about 30 people sometimes, there's too many. So they
[2:06:06] Speaker 1: like it when it was six. Six or seven.
[2:06:10] Speaker 3: I ain't got to explain to that dirt.
[2:06:12] Speaker 1: I wasn't talking to him. The old me almost came out.
[2:06:17] Speaker 1: On that note, this has been... We don't want the
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: old you coming out. This has been another episode of
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow.
[2:06:29] Speaker 3: Peace.

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