# KD's Take On Leaving OKC BLOWS AWAY Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 18 Dec 2025, 2 h 00 min.

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Victor Wembanyama Is ALREADY The Best Player In The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Victor Wembanyama calling himself the best player in the league in just his 3rd season and debate if the Alien is spitting or tripping with his self assesment before discussing the Spurs' ceiling if their franchise superstar can stay healthy. They then react to Dillon Brooks continuing to poke the bear that is LeBron James as the notorious villain finally spoke to the media following his hostile ejection and discuss Luka Doncic taking the blame for the Los Angeles Lakers' recent struggles on the defensive end of the court. Next, they discuss more information coming out about Chris Paul getting sent home from the Los Angeles Clippers and debate if the Clippers will do right by their franchise icon as the situation may be exposing more about the organization than the player before reacting to Kevin Durant's recent appearance on Fred VanVleet's podcast where the future NBA Hall Of Famer detailing his decision to leave the OKC Thunder during his prime and gave his take on why the NBA All Star Game has gone downhill. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to Kevin Garnett finally reconciling with the Minnesota Timberwolves' organization to get his number retired and give their ideas on how the NBA can improve the NBA Cup as Adam Silver weighs options to change the league's midseason classic. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:55 Wemby Is The Best Player In The NBA 0:07:08 Dillon Brooks Needs To Change His Brand 0:31:45 Luka Takes The Blame For Lakers Bad Defense 0:51:07 Clippers Vow To Do Right By Chris Paul 1:07:52 Nobody Showed Up To CP3's Halloween Party 1:13:48 Kevin Durant Speaks On Leaving OKC 1:22:58 KD Says He Doesn't Shower 1:52:20 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:03] Speaker 2: Oh, no candy.
[0:07] Speaker 1: Damn.
[0:07] Speaker 2: You want my candy? Put my ear out.
[0:09] Speaker 3: Glorious Thursday here in the arena. We got a lot
[0:12] Speaker 3: of sophisticated brothers. Educated brothers.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Educated. Uh-oh. Kareem Akbar.
[0:21] Speaker 1: What you about to do with those? Ooh. Gloves. Workout.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Okay. China.
[0:29] Speaker 1: Somebody need a workout?
[0:31] Speaker 2: Ocho Cinco.
[0:32] Speaker 1: Okay. Oh! Ocho.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Let's make it happen.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Ocho.
[0:36] Speaker 2: He called me out.
[0:37] Speaker 1: He did.
[0:38] Speaker 2: Oh, man. I think he's scared. He said he didn't
[0:41] Speaker 2: want to box. He said he's scared. Not a pugilist.
[0:46] Speaker 1: Yeah. I would.
[0:47] Speaker 2: I didn't even notice the gloves.
[0:50] Speaker 3: The gloves fit. You might get hit. But this is
[0:53] Speaker 3: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson.
[0:58] Speaker 3: As always, we got the NBA legend and current NBA
[1:00] Speaker 3: 2K player, Gilbert Arenas, back here with us.
[1:04] Speaker 1: Not a legend, just a player. Still getting cooked, huh? Huh?
[1:07] Speaker 1: Still getting cooked?
[1:09] Speaker 2: You can't get cooked every time you sit on this couch. Yeah,
[1:12] Speaker 2: I mean. Do you ever win?
[1:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, like. Fuck. Yeah, like, was today a better morning? Yeah. Like,
[1:17] Speaker 1: can we get the legend? First of all, just win
[1:19] Speaker 1: that and play. I did my sister game. It was
[1:22] Speaker 1: the anniversary yesterday.
[1:24] Speaker 2: Are you the bobcat? I dropped, you know, 16. You
[1:28] Speaker 2: the bobcat?
[1:30] Speaker 1: But I got a job. I do things in life.
[1:33] Speaker 1: People that I'm playing with, it feels.
[1:35] Speaker 2: Like they don't do nothing but that.
[1:37] Speaker 4: But that's what you're used to. You like that type
[1:39] Speaker 4: of shit. You want to shoot everything and just.
[1:41] Speaker 3: No, Gilby getting froze out a lot on these games.
[1:45] Speaker 3: Just give me cardio. No, they be making me Draymond
[1:47] Speaker 3: Green on that motherfucker like.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Like, I'd be spending my $ 140 to sit in the corner. Nah, bro.
[1:55] Speaker 1: Being talked to like, I don't know, basketball. Get over
[1:59] Speaker 1: in the corner. Wait till we do this. Back door. Like, wait.
[2:02] Speaker 1: Just give me the ball. Let me do my thing.
[2:04] Speaker 1: I'm a corner dude. I'm the most expensive corner dude.
[2:08] Speaker 2: 2K will humble you. Amen. They are.
[2:10] Speaker 1: No, no. Them geeks will humble you. The Geek Squad.
[2:13] Speaker 1: They're paying a quarter of a lot of money in
[2:16] Speaker 1: that game.
[2:16] Speaker 2: Not on 2K. But that's you.
[2:18] Speaker 1: I was like, why did I spend my money? I
[2:19] Speaker 1: could have just sat here for free. I got six
[2:23] Speaker 1: million VC. Can't do nothing with it.
[2:25] Speaker 2: They hurt, don't they?
[2:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. See you next again. We have NBA champion
[2:30] Speaker 1: of the world.
[2:31] Speaker 2: The Educator Brother.
[2:32] Speaker 1: The Educator Brother. Swaggy P. Nick Young back here with us.
[2:39] Speaker 3: And on this side of the couch, we have the
[2:40] Speaker 3: man they call Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion of the world,
[2:43] Speaker 3: Rashad McCants.
[2:45] Speaker 2: Boxing champ.
[2:46] Speaker 1: The champ is here. Okay.
[2:50] Speaker 2: Boxing champ.
[2:50] Speaker 1: The champ is here.
[2:51] Speaker 3: And last but not least, represent tough crowd and a
[2:53] Speaker 3: card-carrying country club member, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
[2:58] Speaker 1: I like this.
[2:59] Speaker 2: This is good.
[3:01] Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you see how the golf inspired y'all, man.
[3:03] Speaker 1: I love it. February 12th, too.
[3:05] Speaker 5: By the way, all-star weekend, February 12th, my golf event.
[3:09] Speaker 3: The real nigga open. My golf event, February 12th. Real
[3:14] Speaker 3: nigga open. At the Willard Hills Country Club.
[3:17] Speaker 5: Right here, Willard Hills Country Club, February 12th.
[3:20] Speaker 1: The R & O. Because of other circumstances, is there
[3:24] Speaker 1: any money involved? Because if there's money involved, I can't participate.
[3:29] Speaker 2: Oh, no.
[3:30] Speaker 1: But, you know. If you're thinking about putting money up,
[3:33] Speaker 1: I am not accepting. Okay. Okay?
[3:35] Speaker 2: Okay.
[3:35] Speaker 1: All right. This is what I'm saying. I am not
[3:39] Speaker 1: accepting the challenge.
[3:40] Speaker 3: A legal sanctioned event for all to enjoy. February 12th.
[3:44] Speaker 3: Shout out to me.
[3:44] Speaker 1: You can win a car. I say you can win
[3:46] Speaker 1: a truck.
[3:48] Speaker 5: Like, if you hit a hole in one or closest
[3:49] Speaker 5: to the pin, yeah, we're going to give out a
[3:51] Speaker 5: pickup truck.
[3:51] Speaker 2: Closest to the pin?
[3:53] Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Uh-oh.
[3:54] Speaker 2: Closest to it?
[3:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[3:55] Speaker 2: Not even got to go in? No, just closest to it.
[3:58] Speaker 3: We'll be on the lookout February 12th, All-Star weekend here
[4:00] Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. We've got a lot of things to discuss.
[4:02] Speaker 3: Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today. Wimby thinks he's
[4:06] Speaker 3: the best player in the league right now. Is the
[4:09] Speaker 3: alien spitting or tripping? KD blamed Steph and Damian Lillard
[4:14] Speaker 3: for ruining the All-Star game.
[4:16] Speaker 2: But is that facts or cap?
[4:18] Speaker 3: And after a long-standing fallout, Kevin Garnett and the Wolves
[4:21] Speaker 3: are finally reuniting. We look back on the big tickets
[4:25] Speaker 3: impact in Minnesota. But before we get into all that,
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[4:55] Speaker 3: as always, if you can't watch the show live, we're
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[4:59] Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts from. So Spurs coming off
[5:03] Speaker 3: their first NBA Cup title game appearance. Did not get
[5:07] Speaker 3: it done, but Wimby came out on fire to start
[5:09] Speaker 3: this season, averaging 26 points, 13 rebounds, nearly four blocks,
[5:13] Speaker 3: and one steal in his first 11 games before being
[5:15] Speaker 3: sidelined with a calf strain, with many considering him to
[5:18] Speaker 3: be a frontrunner in both the MVP and Defensive Player
[5:21] Speaker 3: of the Year discussions at that point. Alien returned, but
[5:24] Speaker 3: the NBA Cup did work in limited minutes. So during
[5:26] Speaker 3: an interview with ESPN's Malika Andrews before the NBA Cup semis,
[5:30] Speaker 3: Wimmy was asked who he thinks is the best player
[5:32] Speaker 3: in the league, and he had this response, saying, quote,
[5:36] Speaker 3: Jokic is the best offensive player. I don't think he's
[5:38] Speaker 3: the best player. I think it's between Giannis and Shea.
[5:42] Speaker 3: When I come back on the court, I think it'll
[5:44] Speaker 3: be me. So Wimmy may have been limited by a
[5:46] Speaker 3: minutes restriction in these past two games, but still showed
[5:49] Speaker 3: how important he is to the Spurs and the future
[5:51] Speaker 3: of the league. So you heard what Wimby just said.
[5:53] Speaker 3: I want to ask this couch, do you agree with
[5:55] Speaker 3: Wimby for saying that he's the best player in the league?
[5:58] Speaker 3: He didn't say he was the best player in the league.
[6:00] Speaker 3: He said, when I come back, I will be the best.
[6:02] Speaker 3: It will be me.
[6:03] Speaker 1: When he comes back full healthy.
[6:06] Speaker 2: And he has come back. He has risen. No, I
[6:08] Speaker 2: don't think.
[6:09] Speaker 1: He didn't mean like as soon as he stepped on,
[6:10] Speaker 1: he plays 10 minutes. I think when he says he's
[6:12] Speaker 1: coming back and he's playing four minutes, he's back starting.
[6:19] Speaker 2: The fact that he can– I mean– He's very intelligent.
[6:25] Speaker 1: Because he looks at the game as if he's researched 70s, 80s, 90s,
[6:34] Speaker 1: 2000s basketball. So he can separate the difference between offense overall.
[6:41] Speaker 1: He has the understanding of the full game of basketball
[6:44] Speaker 1: and how he said it.
[6:45] Speaker 2: He's right.
[6:46] Speaker 1: Offensively, what everything Joker brings offensively to the game, he
[6:51] Speaker 1: can say he's the best at it, right?
[6:54] Speaker 2: When you're talking about.
[6:55] Speaker 1: The full package.
[6:55] Speaker 2: Inch per inch or just the best? The full package
[6:58] Speaker 2: of it.
[6:58] Speaker 1: The full package of it? You have Shea who plays
[7:03] Speaker 1: both sides of the court, and you have somebody like
[7:05] Speaker 1: Giannis who plays both sides of the court. So he
[7:07] Speaker 1: feels as what his defense is and what he brings
[7:12] Speaker 1: to the offensive side, when he's playing at a very
[7:15] Speaker 1: high level, he can say that his total package of
[7:20] Speaker 1: what he brings He is the best player in NBA.
[7:23] Speaker 2: Total package. Educator brother on the end of the couch. No,
[7:31] Speaker 2: he's not tripping.
[7:32] Speaker 4: But he has a 10 to go back into being
[7:35] Speaker 4: a lunchtime baller. But the potential is there. I also
[7:42] Speaker 4: would like him to mention Castle. Castle is turning into
[7:46] Speaker 4: one of my favorite players, too. He's turning into an
[7:48] Speaker 4: all-around great player on this team. But for Wimby, he
[7:55] Speaker 4: got it. It's hard to beat 6'4, I mean 7'4,
[8:00] Speaker 4: that could do everything that them guys he mentioned does,
[8:04] Speaker 4: but play both sides of the floor. I think he's
[8:08] Speaker 4: like in that Kobe fro mode when he came back,
[8:12] Speaker 4: and he's starting to realize his game and where he's
[8:15] Speaker 4: at amongst the players in the NBA.
[8:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see.
[8:21] Speaker 3: That's why you say his potential to go back to
[8:23] Speaker 3: being a lunchtime hooper. Do you feel like he's escaped
[8:25] Speaker 3: that lunchtime hooper stigma that you placed on him last season?
[8:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, he listened, you know. But he came out the gates,
[8:34] Speaker 4: you know, wanting to prove his educated brother wrong. But, like,
[8:38] Speaker 4: in games like in the cup final, I mean, the
[8:43] Speaker 4: championship game, whatever, the end-season championship, like that fourth quarter,
[8:47] Speaker 4: He starts selling for more threes and forcing threes and
[8:50] Speaker 4: stuff instead of sticking to the game plan he's been
[8:55] Speaker 4: doing all year.
[8:55] Speaker 3: Let's move to this side of the couch. Mr. B,
[8:58] Speaker 3: do you agree with what he's saying? He thinks he's
[9:00] Speaker 3: the best player in the league. He has the ability
[9:02] Speaker 3: to be.
[9:04] Speaker 5: I think if he gets a couple more games under
[9:06] Speaker 5: his belt, go deeper into the playoffs.
[9:10] Speaker 6: I mean, defensively, he's definitely going to be one of
[9:13] Speaker 6: the greatest defensive players ever if he stays healthy.
[9:17] Speaker 1: But it's just time.
[9:18] Speaker 5: You know, it just takes time right now.
[9:20] Speaker 6: You know, SGA, Giannis, Jokic, they're all already proven and
[9:24] Speaker 6: they're already still going right now.
[9:25] Speaker 5: But I think if he makes more.
[9:27] Speaker 6: Deeper runs in the playoffs and stay healthy, you know, and,
[9:31] Speaker 6: you know, get easier shots offensively and be able to
[9:34] Speaker 6: put the whole, you know, everything together, I think it'd
[9:36] Speaker 6: be OK.
[9:37] Speaker 1: Rashad, you've been a big fan of Wimby.
[9:40] Speaker 2: Knicks and Wimby were your two teams, I believe, entering
[9:43] Speaker 2: this season.
[9:44] Speaker 3: You appreciate the confidence from Wimby saying that he thinks
[9:46] Speaker 3: he's the best player in the league, Kurt.
[9:49] Speaker 7: Well, you know, I like to talk hoop. So, we're
[9:54] Speaker 7: going to do that. Let's go back to the one
[9:57] Speaker 7: notion that he brought to the beginning of the season,
[9:59] Speaker 7: which was sorting out other players in the history of
[10:03] Speaker 7: the game, trying to take the knowledge and wisdom from
[10:06] Speaker 7: what they have, putting it into his game. The potential
[10:10] Speaker 7: has always been there. I was talking to my sister
[10:12] Speaker 7: the other day about how when he played against Rudy
[10:14] Speaker 7: Gobert when he was 16, 17 years old, proving that
[10:18] Speaker 7: he can actually take a leap forward based on just
[10:20] Speaker 7: his raw abilities. I think still now with the Spurs,
[10:24] Speaker 7: he's being held back just a little bit based on
[10:27] Speaker 7: him having to play in the reference of finding out
[10:31] Speaker 7: how they're going to build around him in the totality
[10:33] Speaker 7: of his talents. So a lot of the things that
[10:36] Speaker 7: he was doing in the championship game was based on
[10:39] Speaker 7: the flow of the game, how the team was playing,
[10:41] Speaker 7: and him not having to force things up but still
[10:44] Speaker 7: having a minutes restriction. So if you think about coming
[10:47] Speaker 7: off the bench being cold, you want to get into
[10:49] Speaker 7: the flow of the game. So you throw up a
[10:50] Speaker 7: couple shots just to see if you can get the
[10:52] Speaker 7: flow of the game, get the feel of the game.
[10:55] Speaker 2: He's not a big man.
[10:57] Speaker 7: I think that's the one notion we have to get
[10:58] Speaker 7: out of with him. And he's not a five. He
[11:01] Speaker 7: is a guard. He is Bobo. He is one of
[11:04] Speaker 7: those guys that we have to really respect the fact
[11:06] Speaker 7: that he's never played a big man position. But defensively,
[11:09] Speaker 7: he does what he's supposed to do. He changes the game.
[11:13] Speaker 7: He makes people change their shot. He makes people question
[11:16] Speaker 7: whether they should go inside or not. That alone just
[11:19] Speaker 7: changes his trajectory when it comes to him thinking that
[11:22] Speaker 7: he can be the best player. And I think that's
[11:24] Speaker 7: the number one thing everybody needs to pay attention to.
[11:27] Speaker 7: He said, this is what I think of myself. Everybody
[11:30] Speaker 7: else don't have to think that he is, but my
[11:32] Speaker 7: notion is his. I think that he is, and I
[11:36] Speaker 7: think that he should keep that confidence, the same confidence
[11:38] Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards had when he came out saying what he
[11:41] Speaker 7: said about himself. and if he keeps that, that energy
[11:45] Speaker 7: is going to trickle down.
[11:46] Speaker 2: Throughout the whole team, and they are going to feel
[11:48] Speaker 2: the same way.
[11:50] Speaker 1: I forgot about that, man.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Your point, too, I think with Wimby, it's the totality
[11:55] Speaker 3: of the game, right? What I can do on the
[11:57] Speaker 3: defensive side, I may not be there offensively on Jokic's
[11:59] Speaker 3: level yet, getting there, but I bring on that other
[12:02] Speaker 3: side a potential defensive player of the year candidate every
[12:05] Speaker 3: season as long as he can hit that 65-game threshold.
[12:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, the upsides. The upside is his offense because it's
[12:12] Speaker 2: so raw, right?
[12:15] Speaker 1: He has all the tools to be an unstoppable offensive force.
[12:23] Speaker 1: What he's lacking is the IQ of scoring the ball, right?
[12:30] Speaker 1: Reading the defense. He has basketball IQ, but a scoring IQ,
[12:37] Speaker 1: understanding what a defense is trying to do how to
[12:40] Speaker 1: combat that, he doesn't have the pure offensive player's mind yet.
[12:47] Speaker 1: He has a basketball mind, but when you're talking about
[12:50] Speaker 1: just a straight hooper, like a dude who knows how
[12:53] Speaker 1: to just get buckets, like a Brunson mindset, right, where
[12:57] Speaker 1: you know how to manipulate, okay, he's coming from here,
[12:59] Speaker 1: let me jump this way, let me fake this pass.
[13:02] Speaker 1: Once he starts reading how his defensive– he will stop
[13:06] Speaker 1: forcing random shit thinking he's open, right? Because he will
[13:10] Speaker 1: know he's open because he will know that, okay, I
[13:12] Speaker 1: have this little guy here, I'm shooting this. Okay, I'm
[13:15] Speaker 1: going to take two dribbles, he's going to swipe through,
[13:17] Speaker 1: so I'm going to take these little two, let him swipe,
[13:19] Speaker 1: pull it over, shoot. Once he starts doing that and
[13:22] Speaker 1: you will see it quick, then you will understand.
[13:24] Speaker 2: It seems like.
[13:25] Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg right now has more offensive patience and understanding
[13:29] Speaker 1: of offense than Wimby does. But Wimby's ceiling is very,
[13:34] Speaker 1: very it's way higher than Cooper.
[13:38] Speaker 2: Flags will be. It's hard because he could do so
[13:40] Speaker 2: much out there.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Because he wants to do, like... And he wants to
[13:43] Speaker 1: show so much. He wants to, like, he really wants
[13:46] Speaker 1: to show that he can bing, bing, bing. I got
[13:48] Speaker 1: it all when some games don't need it all. You
[13:51] Speaker 1: don't really need it all.
[13:52] Speaker 2: That's true.
[13:54] Speaker 1: You have more than enough. You have 99 dribbling, but
[13:56] Speaker 1: you don't really need it.
[13:59] Speaker 2: It's like... For real.
[14:00] Speaker 1: There's no 99 defense out there for you. Just make
[14:02] Speaker 1: it easier for you than... Once he starts doing that,
[14:05] Speaker 1: then the sky is the limit.
[14:10] Speaker 3: Speaking of the limit, Spurs 18-7 to start this season
[14:13] Speaker 3: tied with the Lakers with an 18-7 record. Lakers are
[14:16] Speaker 3: the third seed. Spurs are the fourth seed based on tiebreakers.
[14:18] Speaker 3: That's with Wimby being sidelined for nearly half of their games.
[14:22] Speaker 3: They were 34-48 last season with Wimby missing 36 games
[14:24] Speaker 3: due to injury. Nine and three in the 12 games
[14:27] Speaker 3: Wimby missed this season. So when you look at this
[14:29] Speaker 3: Spurs squad as currently constructed, what's the Spurs ceiling this
[14:32] Speaker 3: season if Wimby can stay healthy?
[14:37] Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals.
[14:39] Speaker 3: You think they could get to the Western Conference Finals
[14:41] Speaker 3: with this squad? With him healthy and the way they plan, yeah.
[14:49] Speaker 3: They definitely have a good chance of getting there.
[14:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. He need one of those moments, though.
[14:56] Speaker 4: I think that would boost his confidence, having that, what
[15:00] Speaker 4: was it, LeBron versus Boston type of playoff.
[15:05] Speaker 2: He need one of those.
[15:08] Speaker 3: Sean, when you look at the Spurs squad, what do
[15:09] Speaker 3: you feel like the Spurs ceiling is and when we
[15:11] Speaker 3: can stay healthy?
[15:11] Speaker 7: I think they make a good trade for another big
[15:15] Speaker 7: man because they could take it all the way.
[15:18] Speaker 3: You think that if they trade for what caliber of
[15:21] Speaker 3: big man would they need to trade for for you
[15:22] Speaker 3: to be confident that.
[15:23] Speaker 7: They could take it all the way? A Mitchell Robinson type.
[15:30] Speaker 7: Another coordinate out there. Offensive rebounder. Harkinstein type. Give Wimby
[15:37] Speaker 7: some breathers out there. I think they got everything else
[15:39] Speaker 7: they need. I think with Castle, he makes a lot
[15:43] Speaker 7: of second year mistakes, jump passes, just turnovers that are
[15:50] Speaker 7: just unforced a lot of times just due to his.
[15:55] Speaker 2: Inexperience. They have everything you need, like I said before.
[16:02] Speaker 7: Even Sohan being on the bench, they still got Kelly
[16:05] Speaker 7: Olenek over there.
[16:06] Speaker 1: They....
[16:09] Speaker 7: And I said, you know, Wimby's being underutilized at this
[16:12] Speaker 7: point just based on team morale. So give them another big,
[16:17] Speaker 7: and they'll be set. Because right now, Cornette can't do
[16:20] Speaker 7: it by himself out there. He's not enough. He doesn't
[16:23] Speaker 7: have a defensive presence that Wimby does. You give somebody
[16:26] Speaker 7: another defender out there that's big enough to do what
[16:30] Speaker 7: they did against OKC, that was the difference maker. And
[16:34] Speaker 7: I think if OKC is the standard in the league
[16:36] Speaker 7: as a top team to beat– to get to the championship,
[16:40] Speaker 7: and you can beat them the way that we beat them,
[16:43] Speaker 7: due to the defense that Winby possesses in the paint presence,
[16:48] Speaker 7: we can do that. I think giving him good minutes
[16:51] Speaker 7: every now and again, get him back on the floor,
[16:53] Speaker 7: on and off, it'll be dope. So they definitely got
[16:56] Speaker 7: a chance to win it all. Fuck the halfway. They
[16:59] Speaker 7: can win it all.
[17:04] Speaker 2: First round exit. Let me just be honest.
[17:08] Speaker 3: You don't think this Spurs team can win a playoff
[17:10] Speaker 3: series in Adam Silver's Western Conference?
[17:12] Speaker 1: He said first round. He said first round.
[17:15] Speaker 2: They play like the Warriors.
[17:16] Speaker 1: I mean, if they beat the Warriors, that means they
[17:19] Speaker 1: got to be so high up there that they're playing
[17:20] Speaker 1: the bottom seed Warriors. Right now, the way they are,
[17:23] Speaker 1: they're going to be playing either Minnesota, Houston. Yeah, this
[17:29] Speaker 1: means nothing, but the Rockets or Timberwolves, the 5th or 6th.
[17:33] Speaker 2: You're talking about a team that.
[17:36] Speaker 1: Their defense is good because of Wimby, right? Meaning, if
[17:40] Speaker 1: he's healthy, they're great defensively. Offensively, they're not as good
[17:46] Speaker 1: as you think, right? They still don't know what they're
[17:50] Speaker 1: doing offensively. They struggle offensively. They put the ball, but
[17:54] Speaker 1: their defense is what's holding now. You got two guys
[17:57] Speaker 1: who can't shoot a brick from the field, I mean,
[18:00] Speaker 1: from the three or the free throw line.
[18:02] Speaker 2: Your two guards... that are athletic.
[18:05] Speaker 1: They're shooting, what, 20% from the three, and they're shooting, like,
[18:09] Speaker 1: low 70 from the free throw line.
[18:11] Speaker 2: So they're still.
[18:12] Speaker 1: Trying to find their way, and we know in the
[18:14] Speaker 1: playoffs that floor shrinks, and they're going to force you.
[18:17] Speaker 1: They're going to force Castle to shoot a lot of threes.
[18:20] Speaker 1: They're going to force Harper to shoot a lot of threes, right?
[18:24] Speaker 2: So because.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Because you need your guard play here in the playoffs
[18:32] Speaker 1: and your big is playing like a guard, I don't
[18:35] Speaker 1: see them winning a seven-game series against an elite team
[18:39] Speaker 1: that understands offense and defense. So I don't see them
[18:42] Speaker 1: beating Houston in a seven-game series. They're not beating Denver
[18:46] Speaker 1: in a seven-game series.
[18:46] Speaker 5: You think because too many guards got the green light?
[18:50] Speaker 2: No, it's just.
[18:51] Speaker 1: It's still basketball, right? You know, you're still raw. But, like,
[18:57] Speaker 1: what are their players, though?
[18:58] Speaker 5: But, like, what are their players? Whoever get it, just go?
[19:00] Speaker 2: Or is it... Right, they look for the mismatch, right?
[19:03] Speaker 1: Like, you're going to have to really minimize your bad shooting. So,
[19:09] Speaker 1: when we're coming down shooting long threes, that's not going
[19:11] Speaker 1: to work. Like, you beat an okay team shooting 41%.
[19:13] Speaker 1: You're shooting 41%. You did, like.
[19:19] Speaker 2: Who was favorite in the Knicks series?
[19:22] Speaker 1: Knicks.
[19:23] Speaker 2: They actually were favorite.
[19:25] Speaker 1: From Vegas, Vegas had them favorite, and they covered that spread. Right?
[19:29] Speaker 1: So you beat OKC. You didn't get no, OK, we
[19:34] Speaker 1: think you're going to win this championship because you have
[19:37] Speaker 1: a lot of flaws, and the flaws is putting the
[19:39] Speaker 1: ball in the basket at a high rate.
[19:41] Speaker 5: You don't think these next two games they got coming
[19:43] Speaker 5: up with OKC says a lot about their season?
[19:46] Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to beat Houston? in a
[19:49] Speaker 2: seven game series.
[19:51] Speaker 1: Right now, no.
[19:52] Speaker 2: Okay.
[19:53] Speaker 1: So, like, you know what I mean? Because we know
[19:55] Speaker 1: one thing that they do, what OKC do have, right?
[19:59] Speaker 1: They have offensive guys who can consistently put the ball
[20:03] Speaker 1: in the basket.
[20:04] Speaker 2: I think it comes through experience. No, that's what I'm saying.
[20:07] Speaker 1: I think Z-Fox can help, though.
[20:09] Speaker 2: Can I ask a question?
[20:10] Speaker 1: Go ahead.
[20:11] Speaker 7: Did OKC hit shots against the Spurs?
[20:13] Speaker 2: No.
[20:14] Speaker 1: No. No, they both shot 41%.
[20:17] Speaker 7: So that means that usually OKC hits shots, right?
[20:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, so one game they didn't hit shots.
[20:22] Speaker 1: Right.
[20:22] Speaker 7: So the Spurs not hitting shots in the game against
[20:27] Speaker 7: the Knicks. It just wasn't hitting shots. They had open looks,
[20:31] Speaker 7: Harrison Barnes. All those guys were missing shots. Wide open shots.
[20:34] Speaker 2: Champagny.
[20:35] Speaker 7: These are shots that would put us up 15. Put
[20:39] Speaker 7: us up 20.
[20:40] Speaker 1: But it didn't.
[20:40] Speaker 7: So because we didn't hit shots.
[20:42] Speaker 1: Right.
[20:43] Speaker 7: So if we're going to talk hoop, we know the
[20:45] Speaker 7: game is a game of runs. It's a game of
[20:48] Speaker 7: if we're hitting shots tonight or we're not hitting shots tonight.
[20:51] Speaker 7: If we hit shots in a seven game series, three
[20:53] Speaker 7: games out of seven. Anybody anybody if you can shoot
[20:58] Speaker 7: the ball, it can't be anybody because that's Charlotte You're
[21:01] Speaker 7: looking at other certain teams.
[21:02] Speaker 2: You don't have the portability. We're gonna be okay.
[21:05] Speaker 7: 100% So listen what I'm saying listen, okay, you can
[21:09] Speaker 7: ignore it Just know just to go against me, but
[21:12] Speaker 7: I'm saying I'm our team the Spurs if we're hitting
[21:15] Speaker 7: shots Mm-hmm, not castle But the guys who's supposed to
[21:20] Speaker 7: hit shots We have a very high probability of winning
[21:25] Speaker 7: any series Why? Because we play defense at the same
[21:29] Speaker 7: clip as OKC. The same clip as any other high
[21:32] Speaker 7: defensive rated teams. And we match up good with Houston.
[21:39] Speaker 7: So the difference is only going to be in making
[21:41] Speaker 7: shots and who's going to make the other team take
[21:43] Speaker 7: tough shots.
[21:44] Speaker 1: So when I said their offense is the problem. If
[21:49] Speaker 1: they're not making shots, it's going to be hard for
[21:52] Speaker 1: them to win the series. That's what I was saying.
[21:55] Speaker 1: So Against OKC, they didn't make shots, nor OKC made shots.
[22:00] Speaker 1: They won that game. The next game, they didn't make shots.
[22:03] Speaker 1: The other team made shots. The other team won that game.
[22:06] Speaker 1: So when you're saying that if they make shots three games,
[22:09] Speaker 1: they win those three, but the other four games that
[22:11] Speaker 1: they didn't make shots, they lose that game. That's all
[22:13] Speaker 1: I'm saying.
[22:14] Speaker 7: They need to get their offense stability. I never disagree
[22:16] Speaker 7: with what you're saying, my guy. You said what you said.
[22:18] Speaker 7: You didn't have to rebuttal. I'm saying what you're saying.
[22:22] Speaker 1: You said I disagree.
[22:24] Speaker 2: You're right, man.
[22:26] Speaker 7: I believe that this is a game. I asked the
[22:29] Speaker 7: question starting off. I asked the question. They hit shots.
[22:33] Speaker 7: They're going to win. They're going to win games because
[22:36] Speaker 7: they play both sides of the ball.
[22:38] Speaker 1: So y'all basically said that.
[22:39] Speaker 2: But what if you got to be able to win
[22:41] Speaker 2: without making shots? What is the question for? You got
[22:43] Speaker 2: to be able to win the hard games when you're
[22:45] Speaker 2: not making shots.
[22:46] Speaker 3: We just won the hard game. The hard game was OKC.
[22:49] Speaker 3: Did beat the Thunder. Both shot 41% in the field.
[22:51] Speaker 3: Spurs shot 41% again in the NBA Cup title game.
[22:53] Speaker 3: Knicks shot 47%. And our main guy is on minute restriction.
[22:57] Speaker 3: He's playing 20 minutes a game.
[23:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, we said that. Yeah, I said that yesterday. I
[23:03] Speaker 5: said that's why that was a difference.
[23:06] Speaker 3: So do you anticipate this first squad trying to make
[23:08] Speaker 3: a move to bolster this roster? We have talked previously
[23:10] Speaker 3: about when they would go all in to start making this.
[23:12] Speaker 4: But do you think they'd beat the Lakers in a
[23:14] Speaker 4: seven-game series? I was thinking that. I was looking at
[23:23] Speaker 4: the teams who they could beat.
[23:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[23:30] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[23:30] Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's what I'm saying. It's different.
[23:33] Speaker 1: It's different in the playoffs.
[23:34] Speaker 2: It's different in the playoffs.
[23:36] Speaker 1: It's only because it's just they're– I'm not worried. They
[23:41] Speaker 1: will defend– in a playoff series, they will hold everybody 50%
[23:46] Speaker 1: and below. I don't see anyone jumping up and having
[23:51] Speaker 1: a 60%, 70% game against them. So I have everyone
[23:56] Speaker 1: sitting about 50% to low 40% on their offense. But
[24:02] Speaker 1: the problem is can they have a consistent– 50% output.
[24:07] Speaker 1: That's the question in the playoffs because the playoffs is
[24:11] Speaker 1: making them play offense in a half court. And that
[24:14] Speaker 1: becomes a difference with guys who don't shoot the ball
[24:16] Speaker 1: and the big that wants to play on the outside.
[24:20] Speaker 1: So it's going to be when he's on the outside,
[24:22] Speaker 1: you're not getting offensive rebounds, right? And then when your
[24:27] Speaker 1: guards do get fouls shooting at a low 70%, I mean, it's...
[24:31] Speaker 1: If you have a bad matchup, if you have any
[24:33] Speaker 1: decent matchup, Houston.
[24:36] Speaker 1: You got Houston, you got Denver, you got Timberwolves, right?
[24:42] Speaker 1: Those guys in the playoffs, they have go-to guys who
[24:45] Speaker 1: understand how to put the ball in the basket at
[24:47] Speaker 1: a very high level. So it's just, the matchup, I
[24:51] Speaker 1: have them going out in the first round in a
[24:53] Speaker 1: seven-game series. If they play the Warriors, then maybe, yeah.
[24:57] Speaker 2: But Wimpy is a change in the half. Defensively. No,
[25:00] Speaker 2: but just throwing him the ball in the post. He
[25:03] Speaker 2: don't post.
[25:04] Speaker 1: We can't think of how we would play the game.
[25:07] Speaker 1: We got to think about how they actually play the game.
[25:10] Speaker 7: The way that we actually play the game now is
[25:12] Speaker 7: far from my perspective. Castle, Fox, going to put pressure
[25:20] Speaker 7: on the rim more. Their offense is predicated to flare
[25:23] Speaker 7: screens into pick and rolls. Those flare screens into pick
[25:26] Speaker 7: and rolls are based on trying to create the mismatches,
[25:29] Speaker 7: regardless if it's Coronet or Wimby. And based on that,
[25:32] Speaker 7: Castle is not shooting a high rate of three-point shots.
[25:36] Speaker 7: He is trying to get to the rim. Vassell the
[25:38] Speaker 7: same way. But Vassell can actually shoot the ball. Fox,
[25:42] Speaker 7: where does Fox want to go? He only going to
[25:44] Speaker 7: shoot open threes. He's not going to come down and
[25:47] Speaker 7: try to shoot contested threes. He's trying to get to
[25:48] Speaker 7: the free throw line jump shot. So if we're really
[25:51] Speaker 7: talking the hoop, it's based on not necessarily getting Wimby
[25:55] Speaker 7: in the post, but getting him clean shots. We get
[25:58] Speaker 7: him clean shots. We get Johnson off the bench, him
[26:00] Speaker 7: and Harrison Barnes. Harrison Barnes wasn't hitting shots the last
[26:03] Speaker 7: two games. This is somebody who's going to hit shots.
[26:06] Speaker 7: So I believe that the rate of getting to the
[26:09] Speaker 7: free throw line, putting pressure on teams like Houston, putting
[26:12] Speaker 7: pressure on their back line, making sure they foul, the
[26:15] Speaker 7: more we get to the line, even if we're shooting 70%
[26:18] Speaker 7: from the free throw line, the more shots we shoot
[26:21] Speaker 7: from the free throw line, the more chances we got
[26:23] Speaker 7: to make those shots.
[26:24] Speaker 4: I said throwing in a post because in a playoff,
[26:26] Speaker 4: they strength the paint. And for me, I don't think
[26:29] Speaker 4: right now Castle has the ability to create like that.
[26:34] Speaker 7: One guy. That's one guy. Even with Fox. You don't
[26:37] Speaker 7: play ISO ball when you talk about playoffs. You say, listen,
[26:40] Speaker 7: let's go to the pick and roll.
[26:41] Speaker 2: Let's attack.
[26:42] Speaker 7: Go to the pick and roll. We're not talking about this.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Let's do ISO. You shrink the paint on the pick
[26:49] Speaker 2: and roll. What are we doing? I'm shrinking.
[26:51] Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying it would be better for me
[26:53] Speaker 4: to throw it in the post and let Winby create.
[26:56] Speaker 2: You're still shrinking. You're still shrinking. It's hard.
[27:01] Speaker 7: If you're shrinking in the paint, that means you're doubling.
[27:04] Speaker 2: Right?
[27:05] Speaker 7: So then we got Champagny, we got Vassell on the outside,
[27:08] Speaker 7: and we got wide-open threes now. We're playing a numbers
[27:12] Speaker 7: game at that point. And if you're in the playoffs,
[27:15] Speaker 7: you're going to play a numbers game, you're going to
[27:16] Speaker 7: live by die by that. We're willing to take that chance.
[27:19] Speaker 7: Fuck it.
[27:23] Speaker 1: What is a good three-point percentage for a team? 36%, 37%.
[27:30] Speaker 7: Maybe 35.
[27:32] Speaker 3: I'll say anything over 35 is solid. Over 35 is solid.
[27:38] Speaker 3: Like shooting 50, what, 152?
[27:40] Speaker 7: Yeah, for anything 38, 40 is crazy for a team.
[27:44] Speaker 2: 36? Not that bad. I didn't know 30 was good.
[27:49] Speaker 2: So we asked the chat, what's the Spurs ceiling?
[27:51] Speaker 3: We gave them four options, NBA Finals, Western Conference Finals,
[27:53] Speaker 3: second round or first round exit.
[27:55] Speaker 2: 36% said second round. 31% said Western Conference Finals.
[27:58] Speaker 3: 23% said NBA finals, and 10% said first round exit.
[28:05] Speaker 3: But we will see how this season pans out. Let's
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[28:22] Speaker 2: I was in the area.
[28:24] Speaker 1: I had to bring the boy to the dock. What's up, Cash?
[28:28] Speaker 1: What's up, young fella?
[28:34] Speaker 2: He's nervous.
[28:34] Speaker 1: Don't embarrass me. Don't embarrass me, Dad. Yeah, he's strong, though. Yeah,
[28:40] Speaker 1: he's strong, too. Stop him in his tracks. 6'2, and
[28:45] Speaker 1: you came out in the womb, my boy.
[28:47] Speaker 2: All right, young legend.
[28:52] Speaker 1: All right. Not today.
[28:55] Speaker 2: Oh, we see his kryptonite.
[28:58] Speaker 1: All right. Nice, man. All right.
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[29:36] Speaker 3: things going on with the Rams. Family of Rams players
[29:42] Speaker 3: whipping SUVs around the city, but it's all gravy. Let's
[29:46] Speaker 3: talk a little Western Conference action. So Dylan Brooks nearly
[29:50] Speaker 3: led the Suns to their second straight win over the
[29:52] Speaker 3: Lakers this season after hitting a go-ahead three late in
[29:55] Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, but ended up costing his team the
[29:57] Speaker 3: game after getting in LeBron's face after the shot getting
[30:00] Speaker 3: hit with his second tech and ejected from the game.
[30:03] Speaker 3: Brooks left his son's locker room after the loss, did
[30:05] Speaker 3: not speak to the media, but Wednesday, Brooks spoke for
[30:08] Speaker 3: the first time about the game and going at LeBron James.
[30:12] Speaker 8: I guess he's a social media junkie. He be all
[30:14] Speaker 8: over the socials, so he be seeing, I guess, what
[30:16] Speaker 8: I'm saying. And when I go out there and he thinks,
[30:21] Speaker 8: like I told you, he thinks that people should think.
[30:23] Speaker 2: Away about him and not say nothing about him or, you.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Know, play a certain way. I'm not going to play
[30:28] Speaker 1: that way. So.
[30:31] Speaker 8: He gets in his moves or in his modes or
[30:32] Speaker 8: whatever it is, and I'm all for that.
[30:36] Speaker 1: I wish we let him shoot that shot, and that
[30:38] Speaker 1: shit would have been an air ball.
[30:40] Speaker 3: Wish we let him shoot that shot, that shit would
[30:42] Speaker 3: have been an air ball. That's my nigga LeBron. What
[30:47] Speaker 3: are your thoughts on Dylan Brooks continuing to poke the
[30:49] Speaker 3: bear that is LeBron James? We heard LeBron's vantage point
[30:52] Speaker 3: after the game. Dylan Brooks, like I said, did not
[30:54] Speaker 3: speak to the media after the Suns lost.
[30:57] Speaker 6: I like it because he's playing well. And that's just
[31:00] Speaker 6: who he is, and that's just what he's going to
[31:01] Speaker 6: be about. But he's playing well offensively. He's having a
[31:07] Speaker 6: career high, I think, right, this year?
[31:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's having a career high in points and field
[31:10] Speaker 2: goal percentage.
[31:11] Speaker 5: So it's not messing with his mentor, his game, and
[31:13] Speaker 5: this is what he do.
[31:14] Speaker 6: So he's in a situation where he's doing his thing, man.
[31:19] Speaker 6: I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him. I'm a
[31:21] Speaker 6: fan now, actually. I'm a fan of him. I like it.
[31:27] Speaker 2: Me too.
[31:27] Speaker 1: This dude, his comments.
[31:30] Speaker 2: Shug is branching outside of Cleveland. I like it.
[31:33] Speaker 1: I like the band.
[31:34] Speaker 2: He's a LeBron fan. The biggest LeBron fan.
[31:37] Speaker 3: Shug, you were not here on Tuesday when we talked
[31:39] Speaker 3: about this whole situation based on what happened in that
[31:41] Speaker 3: game this past weekend. But when you hear Dylan Brooks
[31:45] Speaker 3: talking like that, you respect it?
[31:51] Speaker 7: Last time we spoke on Dylan Brooks and I was here,
[31:53] Speaker 7: you know, it's competition for me. Be competitive. Go after
[31:59] Speaker 7: the opponent in all ways, shapes, like any way you can.
[32:03] Speaker 7: Try to affect the game. And he seems to be
[32:06] Speaker 7: one of the best at it right now. So you
[32:10] Speaker 7: see how he had the man crashing out.
[32:13] Speaker 3: Numerous crash outs throughout that game. Not typical for LeBron.
[32:17] Speaker 3: Out of character. Very out of character.
[32:19] Speaker 7: Very out of character. And it was exciting to see it.
[32:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was enjoyable.
[32:22] Speaker 7: Very exciting. You can only imagine how I would.
[32:25] Speaker 2: Be out there.
[32:27] Speaker 7: It was like that, you know, having the energy like that,
[32:30] Speaker 7: to be able to have the freedom, his team, having
[32:32] Speaker 7: his back to do that. And the coach coming out
[32:35] Speaker 7: publicly saying, no, we got his back. You know, we
[32:37] Speaker 7: want him to be the guy that's agitating and irritating.
[32:43] Speaker 7: And to Gil's point saying that, you know, him being
[32:45] Speaker 7: a number two, being able to actually go out there
[32:48] Speaker 7: and provide points and defense on both sides of the ball.
[32:52] Speaker 7: Even though he was at Oregon, he was always a
[32:54] Speaker 7: guy who could get buckets. In Memphis, he got buckets
[32:58] Speaker 7: before Ja got there.
[32:59] Speaker 2: He played well in Oregon.
[33:00] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? So he could hoop, but
[33:03] Speaker 7: it's just like anybody else. When you have to regulate
[33:06] Speaker 7: your spot for another superstar to come in, you got
[33:09] Speaker 7: to step aside and let him shine a little bit more,
[33:11] Speaker 7: take a lesser role, play some defense, you know, be
[33:14] Speaker 7: another side of the ball as far as leadership is concerned.
[33:18] Speaker 7: He went to Houston, seen the opening there with Jalen
[33:22] Speaker 7: Green and those guys, provided leadership. Now he's in Phoenix.
[33:26] Speaker 7: doing the same thing, and I think it shows his maturity,
[33:29] Speaker 7: his growth, and the timing. It's all about timing when
[33:33] Speaker 7: you do the stuff that he's doing. You don't just
[33:35] Speaker 7: go all out and do it every single night to
[33:37] Speaker 7: every single player. It's specific because you're sending a message
[33:40] Speaker 7: to everybody, I'm taking out the king, and once y'all
[33:43] Speaker 7: talk about the king, nobody would dare talk to him
[33:46] Speaker 7: like that. Nobody would dare do anything. Any of the
[33:48] Speaker 7: things that I'm doing, nobody would dare do it. So
[33:50] Speaker 7: for him to do it is showing everybody, like, what
[33:53] Speaker 7: y'all scared of.
[33:55] Speaker 3: It seemed like he was scapegoated with the Grizzlies, obviously,
[33:57] Speaker 3: because this bear poking has been going on for a while. Now,
[34:00] Speaker 3: scapegoated with the Grizzlies after they lost that series, went
[34:02] Speaker 3: to Houston alone with Imei Adoka, helped change the culture
[34:04] Speaker 3: over there.
[34:05] Speaker 2: How long has this been going on for? A few
[34:08] Speaker 2: years now.
[34:09] Speaker 1: Like two years?
[34:10] Speaker 2: Closer to like three or four.
[34:11] Speaker 5: Like a 37-year-old Brown?
[34:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[34:14] Speaker 3: 38, 48, 40-year-old Brown. But my point with Brooks, though,
[34:17] Speaker 3: is just, Got scapegoated with the Grizzlies. Went over to
[34:23] Speaker 3: Houston along with Eman Adoka. Helped change the mentality of
[34:25] Speaker 3: the culture over there. Made their first playoff since 2020.
[34:29] Speaker 3: Now come over with the Suns. I think he's trying
[34:32] Speaker 3: to Josh Harden. Better than expected.
[34:34] Speaker 2: He's trying to.
[34:34] Speaker 4: Josh Harden LeBron, I think. Trying to, you know what
[34:38] Speaker 4: I mean? The way he speak about LeBron all the time.
[34:41] Speaker 2: You would call that a Josh Harden type of thing? Yeah,
[34:44] Speaker 2: that's the new thing. He's trying to Josh Harden, but. Yeah, man.
[34:47] Speaker 4: It's like his whole world revolves around this man.
[34:51] Speaker 1: I was about to say that.
[34:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, bro.
[34:53] Speaker 4: I never see it. But that's how some people get famous.
[34:57] Speaker 4: You know what to do.
[34:58] Speaker 2: He's not the only one. At least when.
[35:01] Speaker 4: Ant-Man does it, he does it to everybody.
[35:06] Speaker 1: And he wins.
[35:06] Speaker 4: He made it to the Western Conference Finals. And he
[35:10] Speaker 4: doesn't do it every time you see LeBron. Like, this
[35:12] Speaker 4: guy gets up for LeBron every time he sees him.
[35:16] Speaker 2: He speaks about him. Like, I don't never see. How
[35:19] Speaker 2: many texts he got this year? A lot. He got
[35:22] Speaker 2: a lot. Let me see.
[35:24] Speaker 1: Like, I don't never. The past few years, though.
[35:26] Speaker 2: No.
[35:26] Speaker 4: I'm talking about, like, against LeBron, how many texts he
[35:30] Speaker 4: has or how many texts he has in general this season.
[35:35] Speaker 2: Because he got two the other day, right? Let me see.
[35:39] Speaker 2: Got kicked out. Like, God damn. Like, do we talk
[35:48] Speaker 2: about him in any other way?
[35:50] Speaker 4: Like, every time I talk about him, LeBron name is
[35:54] Speaker 4: tagged to him.
[35:55] Speaker 2: I'm so tired of this shit. When they play each other,
[35:57] Speaker 2: obviously he relishes the competition.
[35:59] Speaker 1: He's hooping now, yeah.
[36:01] Speaker 2: But he's always done this.
[36:03] Speaker 1: He's seeing it. You tired of it, Nick? No, he's
[36:05] Speaker 1: saying something that he's so tired of it, huh?
[36:08] Speaker 2: I've seen it before.
[36:09] Speaker 7: I'm so tired of him, honey. Honey, I'm so tired
[36:14] Speaker 7: of him always going at you.
[36:16] Speaker 4: Like, you get famous for messing with LeBron.
[36:19] Speaker 2: Aww.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Leave him alone, then.
[36:22] Speaker 2: Yeah. Leave him alone.
[36:26] Speaker 1: They get famous, but then they be losing.
[36:29] Speaker 2: No, no. Okay.
[36:31] Speaker 1: What he's saying is this.
[36:33] Speaker 7: Aww.
[36:34] Speaker 1: Outside of LeBron James and when he plays LeBron James,
[36:37] Speaker 1: who is he? Man. Nothing.
[36:40] Speaker 2: No one knows him.
[36:41] Speaker 1: And for someone who's averaging 21 to play to what
[36:45] Speaker 1: he's playing.
[36:46] Speaker 2: But he's a troll across the league.
[36:48] Speaker 1: No one talks about, and this is the bad part
[36:52] Speaker 1: about the personality. When you're playing LeBron James, yeah, we
[36:57] Speaker 1: see all of you.
[36:58] Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
[36:59] Speaker 1: We don't know if you do this against KD because
[37:01] Speaker 1: nobody reports you. We don't know if you do this
[37:03] Speaker 1: against anybody else because no one gives you that microphone
[37:07] Speaker 1: after these games. So we only think about you with
[37:12] Speaker 1: LeBron James. You're playing too well to only be known
[37:19] Speaker 1: against two games this year. He's averaging 21, right? And
[37:22] Speaker 1: the only time we hear him talk? Is LeBron James.
[37:29] Speaker 1: He's too good for that. This is not some defensive
[37:32] Speaker 1: guy whose name is only attached. Like, he don't get
[37:35] Speaker 1: no recognition outside. He made his name in Memphis.
[37:39] Speaker 2: Against who?
[37:41] Speaker 1: Being on that Memphis team. No, that whole team Memphis.
[37:43] Speaker 6: When he was coming down doing all that.
[37:44] Speaker 1: LeBron James.
[37:46] Speaker 6: No, but the stuff that he was doing on the
[37:47] Speaker 6: court outside of LeBron James.
[37:49] Speaker 1: That whole team was rowdy.
[37:51] Speaker 6: Everybody knew about Memphis because of what Dylan Brooks was
[37:53] Speaker 6: doing and what John Alden was doing.
[37:56] Speaker 1: He made his name in Memphis, man. No, man, we
[37:58] Speaker 1: cannot do that. And then he balled out last year.
[38:00] Speaker 1: You didn't see him last year. We did.
[38:02] Speaker 6: He got into it with other people besides LeBron James.
[38:05] Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is his presence is always felt
[38:09] Speaker 6: every year.
[38:10] Speaker 1: For a dude who averages 21.
[38:11] Speaker 2: Damn, bro.
[38:12] Speaker 1: His presence is felt every year. Hold on, what I'm
[38:14] Speaker 1: saying is for a dude who's averaging 21 and.
[38:18] Speaker 2: He plays defense, he's a two-way player. Does he get recognition?
[38:22] Speaker 1: Yes.
[38:23] Speaker 6: Before this LeBron stuff, they've been saying he's been having
[38:26] Speaker 6: a career year.
[38:27] Speaker 5: I mean, I've been seeing it on Instagram. I've been
[38:29] Speaker 5: seeing it on Twitter, everything.
[38:33] Speaker 2: We see the same shit. We all see the same shit.
[38:36] Speaker 1: They're just trying to push LeBron. No, no, no.
[38:41] Speaker 6: When he does get mentioned with LeBron, yes, it is
[38:43] Speaker 6: big news. But what I'm saying is he does do
[38:46] Speaker 6: this to other players. He does be in the news
[38:48] Speaker 6: for other things. I'm not just going to do that
[38:50] Speaker 6: to Dylan Brooks.
[38:51] Speaker 1: I mean, Drake put him in a fucking song. Like,
[38:54] Speaker 1: people hate this guy. For sure.
[38:56] Speaker 5: Huh?
[38:57] Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, what's his biggest game this year?
[39:01] Speaker 1: What's his biggest game this year? LeBron James. No, what
[39:05] Speaker 1: I'm saying is we don't know. That's his biggest game, LeBron.
[39:07] Speaker 1: He can have a career.
[39:08] Speaker 2: We don't know because they don't.
[39:09] Speaker 1: Nobody's watching Phoenix. What's Donovan Mitchell's best game? We don't know.
[39:14] Speaker 7: There's a lot of guys we don't know.
[39:16] Speaker 1: But he's hooping, though. Yeah, so we don't know.
[39:18] Speaker 7: We can't use that against Dylan Brooks because there's a
[39:21] Speaker 7: lot of other guys we don't know either. He's hooping,
[39:24] Speaker 7: and he's going that nigga's favorite player.
[39:27] Speaker 1: That's it. I don't know. What do you think?
[39:29] Speaker 2: I'm saying?
[39:30] Speaker 7: I'm not saying anything about what you're saying. I'm making
[39:32] Speaker 7: a statement. This ain't got nothing to.
[39:34] Speaker 2: Do with you.
[39:36] Speaker 1: I'm saying that I don't care about you going at whoever.
[39:39] Speaker 2: You go at.
[39:40] Speaker 1: I'm saying as media, you're about to play Golden State Warriors.
[39:46] Speaker 1: They want to still talk about LeBron James. The nigga
[39:49] Speaker 1: is beyond. He's better than just LeBron. He's better than
[39:53] Speaker 1: just LeBron James.
[39:54] Speaker 7: That ain't got nothing to do with Dylan Brooks or
[39:55] Speaker 7: what questions they asking him.
[39:57] Speaker 6: But didn't Dylan Brooks have beef with Golden State?
[40:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about that. Right, right. So wouldn't they
[40:03] Speaker 1: mention that? Exactly. When they mention that, why are you
[40:07] Speaker 1: talking about LeBron James still? He's bigger. I think.
[40:10] Speaker 5: Oh, that game was after he played against Golden State.
[40:13] Speaker 1: They asked him a question. They asked him a question.
[40:16] Speaker 1: What I'm saying is he is bigger now than just
[40:19] Speaker 1: using him for LeBron James.
[40:21] Speaker 2: He doesn't do that.
[40:22] Speaker 1: Hey, are you about to shut down Jimmy Butler? He's
[40:25] Speaker 1: bigger than just using him for this. They didn't ask
[40:28] Speaker 1: him that question. They didn't ask him that question. Antics
[40:30] Speaker 1: against the Warriors every day.
[40:32] Speaker 3: Yes, but they're in the playoffs though. He was targeting
[40:35] Speaker 3: Steph's though Other guys around the league, but obviously the
[40:39] Speaker 3: bronze such a big name no.
[40:44] Speaker 1: Try to grab somebody like that either I go for
[40:45] Speaker 1: he what I'm saying. I'm a reporter I'm gonna have
[40:49] Speaker 1: more questions about his improvement as a basketball.
[40:53] Speaker 2: Player this year.
[40:54] Speaker 1: I This is your four days removed from LeBron. I
[40:58] Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about that. Hey, yo, you've been
[41:00] Speaker 1: balling this year. You've been playing very well. What did
[41:04] Speaker 1: you do? I want to give you the credit. I'm
[41:06] Speaker 1: not going to ask you about four days ago because
[41:08] Speaker 1: as a writer, I want LeBron James take.
[41:12] Speaker 7: So why did they ask him? Why did they ask him?
[41:15] Speaker 7: They asked him the questions four days later.
[41:17] Speaker 1: But that was his first time speaking since the game.
[41:18] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[41:19] Speaker 5: That was his first time.
[41:20] Speaker 1: As a media thing, you're only attaching him to that
[41:23] Speaker 1: when his game is better than that now. You don't
[41:26] Speaker 1: need that. He's playing against Steph. Hey, you've been playing
[41:29] Speaker 1: very well. What you did against the playoffs against Steph, boom, boom, boom,
[41:32] Speaker 1: are you ready for this matchup? Like, give him more
[41:35] Speaker 1: shine than this. But he'll be playing in Phoenix. He'll
[41:38] Speaker 1: be playing in New York. He'll be playing in LA.
[41:39] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[41:40] Speaker 2: Y'all are so short-minded.
[41:41] Speaker 1: How many times has he played LeBron?
[41:43] Speaker 6: I know, but what I'm saying is he wasn't available
[41:46] Speaker 6: for media.
[41:46] Speaker 1: So they hadn't talked to him.
[41:47] Speaker 2: They hadn't talked to him.
[41:48] Speaker 1: Yes. They hadn't asked him the question. He left. He left.
[41:52] Speaker 1: I know. So now he's available. Now he's available. Four games, right?
[41:57] Speaker 1: He plays LeBron four games. Four games ago. Yeah. No,
[42:00] Speaker 1: just four games in a season. Okay. Is it fair
[42:03] Speaker 1: to just only mention him against him? Yes.
[42:07] Speaker 7: Because LeBron James is LeBron James.
[42:08] Speaker 1: So you shouldn't mention him four games against KD.
[42:10] Speaker 2: It's LeBron James.
[42:10] Speaker 1: You shouldn't mention him four games against Golden State. It's
[42:13] Speaker 1: LeBron James. You shouldn't mention him four games against Ant-Man.
[42:17] Speaker 1: You shouldn't mention him four games.
[42:18] Speaker 7: What's going to get you clicks?
[42:21] Speaker 1: LeBron James. LeBron James.
[42:23] Speaker 7: If I mention LeBron in my questions, I'm going to
[42:26] Speaker 7: get more shit, right? Why would I mention KD? Why
[42:29] Speaker 7: would I mention any of these dudes? I'm going to
[42:31] Speaker 7: get more clicks on the guy I know you hate.
[42:34] Speaker 7: You don't want to play against. You're going to play
[42:36] Speaker 7: hard against. If I ask him this, we're going to
[42:38] Speaker 7: get some clicks.
[42:40] Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying.
[42:42] Speaker 1: He's only being click baited for this, and his game
[42:46] Speaker 1: is bigger than just this now. He has no control
[42:50] Speaker 1: over that. He should be getting more praise for all
[42:53] Speaker 1: the stops he's going to get.
[42:56] Speaker 2: He's averaging 20.
[42:56] Speaker 1: That means he's done did the offensive things on a
[43:00] Speaker 1: lot of players. So he should be getting exposed for that.
[43:04] Speaker 1: Stop just leaving his man to LeBron James. He's bigger
[43:07] Speaker 1: than LeBron James. I think it's hurting his brain at
[43:10] Speaker 1: this point.
[43:11] Speaker 2: No.
[43:11] Speaker 1: But we give him praise on this couch for what
[43:13] Speaker 1: he's done.
[43:14] Speaker 6: I think somebody has asked him about his year coming
[43:16] Speaker 6: up because he's been averaging 20. So I think they
[43:19] Speaker 6: have been asking him, yo, what have you been doing
[43:21] Speaker 6: this year? Because I'm surprised. No, seriously, I'm surprised about
[43:24] Speaker 6: what he's done. But what I'm saying is I saw
[43:26] Speaker 6: it on social media. They've been talking to Dylan Brooks.
[43:28] Speaker 6: It's been on social media. So this situation with Bron,
[43:31] Speaker 6: they haven't talked to him in four years. I'm asking, hey, man,
[43:33] Speaker 6: what the.
[43:34] Speaker 1: Hell happened with that? Four games.
[43:36] Speaker 2: No, they played the Lakers with their last game.
[43:39] Speaker 6: Okay, and then their next game is the Golden State Warriors. Okay,
[43:42] Speaker 6: so then I'm sure he's going to do something with Draymond.
[43:45] Speaker 1: There's going to be news again. Right, because he's already
[43:49] Speaker 1: had beef with them through Memphis. He's been hating Golden
[43:52] Speaker 1: State since Memphis. All of this, right, that was a
[43:57] Speaker 1: moment in time.
[43:59] Speaker 2: We see you, right? Okay.
[44:01] Speaker 1: Now you have game. You have real basketball game. Right. Right?
[44:06] Speaker 1: You don't need the gimmick anymore. The gimmick is for
[44:09] Speaker 1: people who can't ball.
[44:10] Speaker 2: You can ball now. Right, that's what he's doing.
[44:12] Speaker 1: Right? So, like, me, I'm saying. Bro, you're bigger than
[44:18] Speaker 1: just a LeBron James take for the Clicks interview.
[44:21] Speaker 2: I bet he won't bum, though.
[44:23] Speaker 1: Right? I bet he won't bum. I would have been like, yo, listen.
[44:26] Speaker 1: You see what I did against Boy Boy? What I'm
[44:28] Speaker 1: about to do to light-skinned dude on Thursday? Watch out. Like,
[44:32] Speaker 1: move your brand to stop everybody because you're a two-way player.
[44:36] Speaker 2: Let me give you something.
[44:38] Speaker 1: Okay. What's Dylan Brooks' brand right now?
[44:40] Speaker 5: Being an asshole on the court?
[44:41] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
[44:42] Speaker 7: Dylan the Villain. Okay.
[44:45] Speaker 1: Yes.
[44:45] Speaker 2: Okay. So he's a villain.
[44:47] Speaker 1: So that means everywhere I go. Everywhere I go. Thank you.
[44:50] Speaker 1: The villain. Right. Who does the villain start with?
[44:55] Speaker 5: The top person?
[44:55] Speaker 1: The top motherfucking boss.
[44:59] Speaker 7: And it trickles down everywhere I go from here. Y'all
[45:02] Speaker 7: know I'm dealing the villain coming in town. Look what
[45:05] Speaker 7: he just did to the boss man. They gonna ask
[45:07] Speaker 7: some questions about, hey, how does it feel about doing
[45:09] Speaker 7: that to the boss man?
[45:10] Speaker 1: Y'all lost the game.
[45:12] Speaker 7: My brand now is identified with being the villain. in
[45:17] Speaker 7: every single storyline. Who we play next?
[45:20] Speaker 1: Who's the boss? Who's the boss? All right.
[45:25] Speaker 7: We're going against the boss, and the boss knows I'm
[45:28] Speaker 7: coming into town. He's preparing for me. Draymond Green, you
[45:32] Speaker 7: got to prepare to protect your boss because I'm coming in.
[45:36] Speaker 1: Now we know this. His brand is being a villain.
[45:39] Speaker 1: That's what we're saying. I shut him down. I'm playing
[45:43] Speaker 1: against him. I'm coming to town. Boom. When I go play, hey, man,
[45:47] Speaker 1: here I come, dealing the villain. My dealing the villain
[45:49] Speaker 1: is only, they only know me now because people want
[45:52] Speaker 1: to keep click baiting. I'm not a click bait no more.
[45:57] Speaker 1: I'm dealing the villain. I already shut him down. I'm
[46:00] Speaker 1: going over there. We're in Golden State right now. What
[46:04] Speaker 1: do you think I'm going to do to him? Shut
[46:05] Speaker 1: him down. Then we're going to go down over here.
[46:07] Speaker 1: I'm going to shut him.
[46:08] Speaker 2: That's dealing the villain. Yeah, but they're going to cover
[46:11] Speaker 2: that if that happens. Yeah.
[46:12] Speaker 1: What do you mean? Every single play he goes. All right.
[46:17] Speaker 1: The 20-45 playoff. All right.
[46:21] Speaker 7: They just being on the other side of him for
[46:23] Speaker 7: no reason. It's like Dylan has literally been promoted around
[46:27] Speaker 7: the league.
[46:27] Speaker 1: Brooke's going at Steph's thumb. Brooke's going at Steph's thumb.
[46:31] Speaker 1: Brooke's not shaking hands after the game. Stop talking about–
[46:35] Speaker 1: how about this season? Tell me five great games. You
[46:40] Speaker 1: act like I'm a Phoenix Unset. Tell me five great games.
[46:42] Speaker 2: God, man. Tell me five.
[46:45] Speaker 1: Tell me three great games.
[46:46] Speaker 2: Tell me five other people.
[46:47] Speaker 1: Just look up this highest scoring game. No, I don't know.
[46:51] Speaker 1: I already did, but I'm going to. No, what I'm
[46:54] Speaker 1: saying is, tell me three games. I'm going to give
[46:58] Speaker 1: you the two Laker games. What is the next great
[47:01] Speaker 1: game that Dylan Brooks has been exposed? You've got to
[47:04] Speaker 1: look at it now. So you're going to just look
[47:06] Speaker 1: at the highest score, but you didn't hear about it. Go.
[47:09] Speaker 1: Tell us what he did. He scored 40 wins. Gil,
[47:11] Speaker 1: tell me what you hear about the Phoenix Suns. What
[47:13] Speaker 1: he scored 40 wins. I don't hear anything about the
[47:15] Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns.
[47:16] Speaker 7: When he played against Houston and Eamon Thompson was sitting
[47:18] Speaker 7: there telling Dylan Brooks, I know your antics, bro.
[47:21] Speaker 1: You my bro.
[47:22] Speaker 7: We know Dylan's going to come in here and do
[47:24] Speaker 7: this stuff. Try to promote KD.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Go it out. He used to play here. So we
[47:30] Speaker 1: know you, bro.
[47:31] Speaker 7: So they was trying to adapt to knowing that he's
[47:33] Speaker 7: going to come in here with the bullshit.
[47:35] Speaker 1: That was Houston.
[47:37] Speaker 2: Houston said that before the game? After the game. After
[47:42] Speaker 2: the game.
[47:43] Speaker 6: I think it's just more surprising that he's having like
[47:46] Speaker 6: this year.
[47:46] Speaker 1: So it's not like his points is.
[47:48] Speaker 3: Not going to get talked about a lot because he's
[47:50] Speaker 3: known as a defender.
[47:51] Speaker 1: But we've talked about it on the show. We've given
[47:52] Speaker 1: him love. I know, but I'm just saying. We've given
[47:54] Speaker 1: him love because he played who? The same reason we
[47:58] Speaker 1: give a lot of people love, sir. Who did he play?
[48:00] Speaker 1: LeBron James? And we're like, God damn that motherfucker scoring.
[48:03] Speaker 2: Is that the only reason we talked about him?
[48:05] Speaker 1: The same reason we give a lot of people love.
[48:07] Speaker 1: Give me the third game that we know he played well,
[48:10] Speaker 1: but he's averaging 21. That's my thing. I'm saying he
[48:14] Speaker 1: should get more credit. Are you not listening to what
[48:17] Speaker 1: I'm saying?
[48:18] Speaker 5: He's having an air and a follow.
[48:19] Speaker 1: Get more credit for your two. We're doing it on
[48:22] Speaker 1: the court. For sure. That's why I publicly said, hey, look,
[48:26] Speaker 1: this man has been working in the summer because I
[48:28] Speaker 1: can see the improvement. He should be getting credited for
[48:31] Speaker 1: his improvement. And we are doing that here on Gills
[48:34] Speaker 1: Arena presented by Underdog.
[48:35] Speaker 2: Woo-woo.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Woo-woo.
[48:37] Speaker 2: Thank you, Chuck.
[48:38] Speaker 3: Always being on time. Appreciate you. Well, let's shift over
[48:41] Speaker 3: to the Lakers side of things. It's one of the
[48:43] Speaker 3: biggest issues for the Lakers. What was his career high
[48:47] Speaker 3: this year? 34, I believe, against the Hawks.
[48:48] Speaker 1: Draymond go against everybody. And 33 against the Lakers.
[48:51] Speaker 4: Draymond go against everybody. He don't got one specific person
[48:56] Speaker 4: he's just tied to.
[48:57] Speaker 2: That's great, Nick. That's great.
[49:01] Speaker 7: That's great, Nick.
[49:02] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[49:03] Speaker 1: It's a great take, Nick. It is.
[49:05] Speaker 2: It's a great fucking take. You just hate Brian that much.
[49:08] Speaker 2: I get it.
[49:09] Speaker 3: One of the biggest issues with the Baker season have
[49:12] Speaker 3: been their struggles on the defensive end. Team is currently
[49:15] Speaker 3: 20th in defensive rating, 23rd in opponents' fast break points allowed,
[49:18] Speaker 3: 24th in fielding. goal percentage allowed, and 28th in opponents'
[49:22] Speaker 3: three-point percentage. So on Wednesday, Luka talked about a recent
[49:25] Speaker 3: meeting him and LeBron had with J.J. Redick in which
[49:27] Speaker 3: the Lakers head coach asked his two stars for more
[49:30] Speaker 3: on the defensive end.
[49:31] Speaker 9: We talked about a lot, not just that, but he
[49:35] Speaker 9: was right, you know, you got to get a little
[49:36] Speaker 9: bit more.
[49:37] Speaker 2: Especially from the star players.
[49:39] Speaker 9: So that's on us, that's on me, and we just
[49:42] Speaker 9: got to give more pressure to start the game.
[49:44] Speaker 2: We got to start the game better.
[49:45] Speaker 1: But I think in Utah, not Utah, in Phoenix, we
[49:48] Speaker 1: did a pretty good job.
[49:49] Speaker 9: You know, the plan was focused on ourselves and defensive mentality,
[49:54] Speaker 9: so I think we.
[49:55] Speaker 2: Did a pretty good job there.
[49:57] Speaker 3: So you respect Luka for taking some accountability for the Lakers'
[50:00] Speaker 3: struggles on the defensive end?
[50:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, because the start's with him. You said he talked
[50:04] Speaker 1: to who?
[50:05] Speaker 3: JJ Redick had a meeting with LeBron and Luka. demanded
[50:08] Speaker 3: more from the two stars on the defensive end. Luka
[50:11] Speaker 3: was asked about it on Wednesday.
[50:14] Speaker 2: We suck.
[50:16] Speaker 1: It's over. What's over, Gil?
[50:19] Speaker 2: Double Lakers.
[50:20] Speaker 1: Why is it over? Like Sugar Ray said, when it's over,
[50:22] Speaker 1: that's the time I fall in love again, sir. Why
[50:25] Speaker 1: is it over?
[50:27] Speaker 2: Because I mean, it does.
[50:28] Speaker 1: I mean, defense does start with your point. It's over, dog.
[50:32] Speaker 5: So it starts with the man at top.
[50:33] Speaker 1: All right. Laker Championship 2027. Yeah, yeah, postpone the 2026
[50:38] Speaker 1: Lakers championship. Damn. The parade route already figured out. This
[50:42] Speaker 1: man had a.
[50:43] Speaker 7: Meeting with a 41-year-old.
[50:48] Speaker 1: To say separate on the defense. Not the guys who
[50:52] Speaker 1: actually need to play deep. Not Luka, AR, and them.
[50:55] Speaker 1: You're saying step it up my 41-year-old. My 41-year-old need
[51:00] Speaker 1: to step it up on defense. And my 26-year-old. That's
[51:03] Speaker 1: like Dallas talking about dirt. We need you to play
[51:06] Speaker 1: some defense. What? He ain't old. He's so old. Yo, Austin. Defense.
[51:14] Speaker 1: I mean, you're out there. I mean, you're out there. Jake,
[51:19] Speaker 1: play some better defense because you can't guard nobody. Luka,
[51:24] Speaker 1: play some better defense. The fact that LeBron is even
[51:28] Speaker 1: in this conversation before the other ones. A.N., protect the rim.
[51:33] Speaker 1: Play some defense. But I'm sure it was a team-wide thing.
[51:36] Speaker 1: He said two people. So the fact that the 41-year-old
[51:40] Speaker 1: has to step it up on defense. He out there.
[51:43] Speaker 2: We lost.
[51:43] Speaker 1: We done. Cut it up.
[51:45] Speaker 2: How much money is LeBron making?
[51:46] Speaker 1: Cut it up. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[51:57] Speaker 1: How much is he making again? $ 52 million. $ 52 million.
[52:01] Speaker 2: The NBA selection last season.
[52:04] Speaker 7: A nigga that made $ 52 million.
[52:08] Speaker 1: Get back.
[52:08] Speaker 7: But because he's 41, he don't have to play no defense.
[52:13] Speaker 7: But you can get paid your check. $ 52 million?
[52:18] Speaker 1: No, no, no. We can't even tell you the... Give
[52:21] Speaker 1: us some effort. No, no, no. That's insane.
[52:25] Speaker 7: But I thought it was a chain reaction on defense.
[52:27] Speaker 7: It's five players, and if all five of us are
[52:30] Speaker 7: not playing defense, we're going to break down.
[52:32] Speaker 1: We're going to lose at some point.
[52:34] Speaker 7: I think JJ's getting kind of fucking fed up with
[52:36] Speaker 7: the breakdown at some point. It's three guys that don't
[52:39] Speaker 7: play no defense. At least one of y'all motherfuckers is
[52:42] Speaker 7: stepping up. So we're going to have a conversation about
[52:45] Speaker 7: one of y'all stepping it up.
[52:46] Speaker 2: Who's the three guys? You said three guys. Who's the three? A.R. Ah.
[52:53] Speaker 1: Luca. Okay. Yeah. I'm just asking.
[52:56] Speaker 2: I'm asking.
[52:57] Speaker 1: I mean, that is your big three.
[52:58] Speaker 7: That's a rhetorical question, if he knows what that means.
[53:01] Speaker 7: It's a rhetorical question. He knew the answer to that.
[53:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. I just wanted you to say it since you
[53:05] Speaker 1: used three. So if I'm going to have a meeting
[53:08] Speaker 1: about defense, it starts with the people who actually supposed
[53:14] Speaker 1: to be young enough to put somebody– and stop somebody,
[53:18] Speaker 1: which is my guards first. My guards first can't keep
[53:22] Speaker 1: guards in front of them. It starts with them. My
[53:25] Speaker 1: big man can't protect the basket. So the fact that
[53:28] Speaker 1: you're relying on LeBron James to step his defense up
[53:33] Speaker 1: when we have at least three real liabilities first, it
[53:37] Speaker 1: shows we have a real problem with accountability. I'm glad
[53:40] Speaker 1: Luka's taking accountability for his problem, but I've never seen
[53:45] Speaker 1: so far this season where an offense is literally targeting
[53:49] Speaker 1: LeBron James. We played the Spurs. We played the Spurs.
[53:54] Speaker 1: Them boys barbecue they are. Pick and roll, pull them out,
[53:58] Speaker 1: let's rock. Pull them in, pull them out, let's rock.
[54:01] Speaker 2: They kept going back and forth to him.
[54:03] Speaker 1: So the fact that you are being targeted and you're
[54:06] Speaker 1: not even in the meeting of defense lets me know
[54:11] Speaker 1: where we are mentally. It needs to start with the
[54:15] Speaker 1: people who can actually do something. My two guards, y'all
[54:19] Speaker 1: supposed to stop guards from coming in here. Hey, we
[54:24] Speaker 1: have Bigfella. Keep people out of this lane. When Golden
[54:29] Speaker 1: State has a meeting about defense, do you think Steph
[54:32] Speaker 1: fucking is in it? No. Do you think Steph Curry? Oh,
[54:36] Speaker 1: I'm going to have a meeting with Steph Curry and Draymond. What?
[54:40] Speaker 3: That meeting is going to start with who? Top player, man.
[54:44] Speaker 3: It starts at the top. Leadership starts at the top.
[54:47] Speaker 1: Who was in there? Clay Iguodala and Draymond Green. I
[54:51] Speaker 1: hope Steph is there. No, no, no. Because the protection,
[54:54] Speaker 1: we already know who he is. We're going to come
[54:55] Speaker 1: to you last. Because, hey, we need you to stay
[54:59] Speaker 1: in front of your guy. But the meeting is about
[55:01] Speaker 1: our defense as a team, and you're going to Steph
[55:03] Speaker 1: to have the conversation about defense of the team. No,
[55:07] Speaker 1: that goes to the strengths of the team defensively. The
[55:10] Speaker 1: strengths of the team. Who is being targeted first?
[55:13] Speaker 2: Luka.
[55:13] Speaker 1: Who is being targeted second? AR. So shouldn't they be
[55:17] Speaker 1: the first ones in there? That's what I'm saying.
[55:19] Speaker 2: The fact that LeBron is in.
[55:20] Speaker 1: There at 41, I'm good. We're not just going around
[55:22] Speaker 1: LeBron James. We're not just going around LeBron. He is
[55:25] Speaker 1: getting paid $ 52 million. He is the top guy on
[55:26] Speaker 1: the team.
[55:26] Speaker 2: He's supposed to be the greatest of all time. He's
[55:38] Speaker 2: also four years old.
[55:39] Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck how old he is. You're
[55:42] Speaker 7: on the fucking court. You're supposed to be playing fucking defense.
[55:46] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck how y'all try to put it.
[55:48] Speaker 4: We're talking about the future of basketball here.
[55:51] Speaker 2: We're talking about.
[55:53] Speaker 1: What kind of... J.J.
[55:54] Speaker 7: Riddick can't have a conversation with LeBron first? Why not?
[55:58] Speaker 1: You're LeBron James.
[56:01] Speaker 7: Bron, if we, as a coach, you go from the
[56:04] Speaker 7: top and you say, I got to go after my
[56:06] Speaker 7: best player, my top player.
[56:08] Speaker 1: So it trickles down. Is this LeBron's team, though, sir,
[56:10] Speaker 1: in your opinion? Listen, it's always going to be LeBron's team.
[56:13] Speaker 1: It's always going to be LeBron's team. It's always going
[56:16] Speaker 1: to be LeBron's team.
[56:16] Speaker 2: Yes.
[56:17] Speaker 7: If it's Greg Popovich, Greg Popovich goes after Tim Duncan.
[56:21] Speaker 7: He's holding Tim Duncan accountable so he can hold everybody
[56:24] Speaker 7: else accountable. The same way you've got to meet with
[56:27] Speaker 7: LeBron first and say, look, Bron, I need you to
[56:29] Speaker 7: be the example of stepping it up on the defensive
[56:31] Speaker 7: end so.
[56:32] Speaker 1: Everybody else can. Period. That's how it goes. That's one
[56:37] Speaker 1: on one.
[56:38] Speaker 7: That's I got to go get my best player and
[56:40] Speaker 7: get him to buy into what we want. Then it
[56:42] Speaker 7: goes to Luca. Hey, Luca, bro, we can't have this.
[56:46] Speaker 7: Look at all these breakdowns.
[56:47] Speaker 2: A.R.
[56:47] Speaker 7: Now, listen, you ain't even got your money yet, bro.
[56:49] Speaker 7: You need to do this type of shit, too.
[56:51] Speaker 1: Bron, tell him. Von, tell him.
[56:55] Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, let's do it, man. It's my fault. I
[56:57] Speaker 7: should have been doing it.
[56:58] Speaker 1: You ever see nobody targeting Von? He's 41. He ain't
[57:02] Speaker 1: got targeting at 41.
[57:04] Speaker 5: Did they talk about Mike like this when he was
[57:05] Speaker 5: playing with the Wizards? It wasn't playing defense?
[57:07] Speaker 1: No.
[57:07] Speaker 2: No, Brandon. It was a much different time.
[57:09] Speaker 1: No, no, I'm just asking.
[57:10] Speaker 2: It was a much different time.
[57:11] Speaker 1: No, no.
[57:12] Speaker 2: Not even Kobe. It was last year.
[57:16] Speaker 1: I just, I just, it just looks bad. You said
[57:17] Speaker 1: not even Kobe? What I'm saying is it looks bad
[57:19] Speaker 1: by the two people.
[57:20] Speaker 2: If he said these.
[57:22] Speaker 1: Four, then yeah. But I'm like, wait, hold on. Our
[57:27] Speaker 1: ranking in defense, LeBron would be on the starting line,
[57:31] Speaker 1: he would be ranked four.
[57:35] Speaker 2: He would be ranked four as the fourth worst.
[57:37] Speaker 1: He's going to be Luka, A.R., A.N., LeBron, then Rui
[57:42] Speaker 1: is probably, he contains his guy. He doesn't get beat
[57:45] Speaker 1: off the dribble. Just like LeBron don't get beat off
[57:47] Speaker 1: the dribble. The three people that really need to step
[57:51] Speaker 1: your defense up is the people that I just named first.
[57:55] Speaker 1: So the fact that LeBron is in and not A.R.,
[57:59] Speaker 1: That's a problem.
[58:01] Speaker 2: Do they have percentages?
[58:03] Speaker 5: Who's the worst defender in the starting five?
[58:06] Speaker 1: Maybe because he can talk to LeBron.
[58:10] Speaker 2: Can we start that?
[58:12] Speaker 1: They have it.
[58:12] Speaker 2: What combos work the best and all that stuff.
[58:14] Speaker 5: You rank the worst person in the starting five. You
[58:18] Speaker 5: know how you can tell who's the best player, the
[58:20] Speaker 5: highest scorer. We need a ranking on who's the worst
[58:23] Speaker 5: defender in the starting five.
[58:26] Speaker 1: So we know.
[58:26] Speaker 2: You can see that.
[58:27] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, for, like, but it needs to
[58:30] Speaker 5: be known.
[58:31] Speaker 1: Like, because we can say it's known. Defensive PR?
[58:34] Speaker 2: No.
[58:35] Speaker 1: I know, but do they have that? I mean, I've
[58:37] Speaker 1: never seen that.
[58:37] Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I've never seen, like, some, you know, like,
[58:40] Speaker 5: before the game, like, yo, this is the worst defender
[58:42] Speaker 5: in the starting five.
[58:43] Speaker 1: And it just shows you. They'll tell you what their
[58:45] Speaker 1: points are, who the best player is, right?
[58:46] Speaker 7: I think that if we're watching hoop and we're talking hoop,
[58:49] Speaker 7: we can tell.
[58:50] Speaker 1: Then if you was talking Hoop, then you wouldn't be
[58:52] Speaker 1: pinching LeBron James.
[58:53] Speaker 7: You watch the Lakers play, you see, like.
[58:56] Speaker 2: Is that soft?
[58:56] Speaker 1: Is that soft?
[58:58] Speaker 5: I understand, but it needs to be... You know what
[59:00] Speaker 5: I'm saying? It needs to be like a.
[59:02] Speaker 7: Like, JJ, listen to what I said with holding them
[59:05] Speaker 7: niggas accountable publicly.
[59:07] Speaker 1: He ended up going privately, like.
[59:09] Speaker 2: he said.
[59:11] Speaker 1: JJ, hold them accountable, bro. What are you doing?
[59:13] Speaker 7: All right, now let's have a meeting. All of a sudden,
[59:15] Speaker 7: they had a meeting after I said that. JJ has
[59:18] Speaker 7: a fucking meeting with them like, look, can we play
[59:20] Speaker 7: some defense? Can we play some defense a little bit?
[59:25] Speaker 7: Luka comes out.
[59:25] Speaker 1: We had a meeting.
[59:26] Speaker 7: We're going to have to play some defense because it
[59:28] Speaker 7: looks so bad. It ain't just me seeing it. Social
[59:31] Speaker 7: media pointed it out, pulled up the tape. It's like,
[59:34] Speaker 7: look at these defensive blow-bys. Look at how they targeted AR.
[59:38] Speaker 7: Luka's not giving no effort. Nobody's sprinting back on defense.
[59:41] Speaker 7: These are just basketball enthusiasts. You're watching it. We're like, yo,
[59:45] Speaker 7: they are so bad defensively. They could be such a
[59:48] Speaker 7: better team if they had accountability collectively. It starts with
[59:53] Speaker 7: the top. It starts with LeBron. No, it starts with Luka.
[59:58] Speaker 1: No, it don't. No, it don't. $ 52 million. $ 52 million. 52.
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: What about Luka? Luka is a cat. He's totally not
[1:00:10] Speaker 1: a cat. He was in the media. I don't want
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: to talk hoops. It starts with him, right?
[1:00:14] Speaker 7: No, it don't start with him.
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: It starts with Luka. With the greatest of all time.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: Do you want to talk hoops? Are you greatest of
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: all time? Do you want to talk hoops or do
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: you want to talk parents? Don't defense always start with
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: the point guard, right? The point, right? I'm starting it off.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: If I'm just letting this guy come down every day
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: and just do whatever he wants. The point of attack defender, right?
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: Who's the leader?
[1:00:32] Speaker 2: Luka.
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: Luka, right?
[1:00:34] Speaker 7: This is Lucas Tate. Bro, I didn't ask whose team
[1:00:37] Speaker 7: it was.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: I said who's the leader.
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: Who's the leader?
[1:00:42] Speaker 7: Nobody knows. Now we just got amnesia. Y'all niggas are
[1:00:45] Speaker 7: something else.
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: Y'all are something else. When has LeBron not.
[1:00:49] Speaker 7: Been the leader on any team he's never been on?
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: LeBron is giving the keys.
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Why are y'all acting like this?
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: Did he get the keys up? Why are y'all acting
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: like this? Did he get the keys up? Did he
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: get the keys up? Did he get the keys up?
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: Did he get the keys up? Luka is driving the car.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: He's a leader.
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: I thought we was talking hoops.
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
[1:01:08] Speaker 7: Y'all can't gaslight me, man. People are watching, man. We
[1:01:13] Speaker 7: watch the game. You can protect LeBron all you want.
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: It's obvious.
[1:01:19] Speaker 6: But why does it start with him and he's not
[1:01:22] Speaker 6: the guy?
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: He's the greatest of all time. He's not the guy
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: on the team. Yes, he is. He's getting paid $ 52 million.
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: Luka is the guy. It starts with Luka. It doesn't
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: start with the second guy. Bro, why y'all arguing with me?
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: I'm delusional. Don't argue with me.
[1:01:37] Speaker 7: All right, my bad.
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
[1:01:39] Speaker 7: And you're sitting in my seat over here feeling delusional.
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: Where's your prop, nigga? Put your prop out. I can
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: say anything about LeBron. I can say anything about LeBron.
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if the fact that you're relying on
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: a 41-year-old lets me know where you're feeling.
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: I feel you. For real.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: If Dallas, when Dirk last year, and they're relying on
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: Dirk to play defense, then something's wrong with you.
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: Something's wrong with you. He can barely get up in depth.
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: Right, there's something wrong with you. The fact that you're
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: trying to hold a 41-0 to a standard.
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: That's his book, though.
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: A standard because his name is LeBron James. A standard.
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: You think Michael Jordan was being held to a standard
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: of stopping people or was that for everybody else on
[1:02:24] Speaker 1: the team? You do what you do. The rest of
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: these guys will help you out and be your net guy.
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: Right now, our weakest link is Luka defensively, meaning what
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: Dallas did when they pretended he was playing better defense
[1:02:43] Speaker 1: against the Clippers. Hey, build a wall around him because
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: we know his attributes defensively is not very well. So
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: we're going to preload up. We're going to make everybody
[1:02:54] Speaker 1: skip the ball back and forth. No straight line drives
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: and all of that. It's a team defense when you
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: have a big liability like that. That's like the reason
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: you couldn't take advantage of Steph, who couldn't play defense.
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: He was too small. Because the meetings with everybody else is...
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do. Steph, make sure
[1:03:14] Speaker 1: he dribbles one or two times. Other than that, everybody
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: else got him. Don't bail him out. So you couldn't
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: take advantage of Steph because the rest of the team
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: understood the assignment.
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: Period.
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: That makes sense, right?
[1:03:25] Speaker 7: Because if you're trying to protect Luka and then you
[1:03:28] Speaker 7: got AR and LeBron not playing defense, it means you
[1:03:32] Speaker 7: have to have the conversation with the other two guys, right?
[1:03:35] Speaker 7: Because we need to protect the one guy, right? It
[1:03:39] Speaker 7: makes sense, right? Is the guy Luka?
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: Is the guy Luka?
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: We asked the chat, who is the guy?
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: The other two.
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: Gave him brown on Luka, 69% said Luka.
[1:03:46] Speaker 7: So if Luka's the guy we need to protect, we
[1:03:49] Speaker 7: can't have the other two guys not playing defense.
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: The other two?
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: The other two. Can you read the names again who
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: the meeting was with?
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: Who the meeting was with? No, no.
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: He said he met up with. I'm reading the quote.
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: I just want to read the quote. Hey, Joe. Joe,
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: this is insane. What he's doing to you is insane, bro.
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: He went. Please.
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: Other two.
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: Full circle.
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: Full circle. Two what?
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: Two Lakers. You bored? You bored? Is the glass. Hold on.
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: What is it? Two Lakers stars, right?
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: It would be Luka and LeBron, Raymond, James Sr.
[1:04:26] Speaker 7: So he met with Luka and only LeBron, them two.
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: I'm sure other people were met with, but he sought
[1:04:32] Speaker 3: those two out to tell them they needed to improve.
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: Their defensive effort. Now they are.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: Those were the two that were referred to.
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: I heard A.R. name like ten times. I heard three.
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: I kept seeing three, but I only heard two. LeBron James.
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: Go get the twitch. LeBron James. LeBron James. Boy, that
[1:04:51] Speaker 1: LeBron James hit that bird. Boy, he started getting the twerking. Hey, Joe.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: You see this shit?
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: I'm really here to help.
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: That was too clean, bro. Dylan Brooks, he's jumping out
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: the window. This was jumping out the window, bro. Protect
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: the man at all costs. Protect him at all costs, huh?
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: What did LeBron James do to you?
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: That's how you turn the tables, huh?
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: Man, that was crazy. That was smart. Hey, Nick.
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: That 38 a game killing him over there.
[1:05:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all good. Let's talk about LeBron again, please. Let's
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: move on.
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: LeBron James again.
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: No, no, I just really want to see what happens.
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: Let's move on.
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: Y'all can't protect him too long, man. It'll be obvious.
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: Let's stay at this. Don't you dare do it. We
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: will move on from the Lakers.
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: We will talk about the Clippers and situations going on
[1:05:39] Speaker 3: over there. So it's been two weeks since the Clippers
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: gave Chris Paul an unceremonious exit 16 games into his
[1:05:46] Speaker 3: retirement tour. According to a report from Jake Fisher, the
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: Clippers do want to do right by their franchise legend,
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: help him relocate via trade to finish out his 21st
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: and final season in the league. The Lakers can't just
[1:05:56] Speaker 3: cut CP3, though, because they don't have enough cap space
[1:05:59] Speaker 3: to add a free agent to the roster. In an
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: interview with People Magazine, Paul had this to say about
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: how his situation ended with the Clippers. He said, I'm
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: actually at peace with everything. More than anything, I'm excited
[1:06:09] Speaker 3: about being around and getting a chance to play a
[1:06:11] Speaker 3: small role in whatever anything looks like next. So when
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: you guys hear that, what are your thoughts on the
[1:06:16] Speaker 3: Clippers saying they want to do right by Chris Paul,
[1:06:19] Speaker 3: considering everything that's happened leading up to this saying that
[1:06:22] Speaker 3: they want to do right.
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: By Chris Paul?
[1:06:24] Speaker 5: They got to do something, right? It's a black cloud
[1:06:26] Speaker 5: over that team.
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: So.
[1:06:29] Speaker 6: I mean, he's on a contract. You can't get rid
[1:06:30] Speaker 6: of him. So you might as well just try to
[1:06:31] Speaker 6: do something right, right, at the.
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: End of the day.
[1:06:33] Speaker 5: I mean, Flipper's been having a bad name for, like,
[1:06:36] Speaker 5: years now. So, you know, might as well just try
[1:06:40] Speaker 5: to do something, something right.
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: What's their record been since Chris? I believe one and
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: four since Chris Paul's left. They've lost one and nine
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: in the last eight games, one and four since the
[1:06:53] Speaker 3: CP3 breakup, if I'm not mistaken.
[1:06:57] Speaker 7: Interesting. to say the least.
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the Clippers saying they want
[1:07:06] Speaker 3: to do right by Chris Paul?
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. What is it?
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: I hear the words.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: You want to do right by him, and by him
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: was him finishing his season. like a true Hall of
[1:07:30] Speaker 1: Fame player. So you stop that. You can't cut him.
[1:07:41] Speaker 2: So that means you just told him to stay home,
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: in a sense. Just stay home.
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: We don't want you around here. And... Told.
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: Him to Zoom. Told him to Zoom. Zoom call him
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: through the remote. Work remotely.
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: Send in your hours. You're saying anything that makes sense
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: to the world, but in reality, you're telling the man
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: to stay home so he's not around the team, and
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: then you will find a trade for him.
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: You're going to stream the practices.
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: Who's going to trade for him?
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: You don't get a comment.
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: What is it?
[1:08:27] Speaker 3: Well, there are some teams that need a point guard
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: that can use his veteran leadership, like we talked about
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: when this thing first went down. Younger teams, probably. A
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: Clippers team full of veterans. Not trying to hear that shit.
[1:08:40] Speaker 3: I don't.
[1:08:42] Speaker 5: I mean, they said he was trying.
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: Because now he says, I would take a small role.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: Because I'm pretty sure now he wants to finish his
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: career and finish his... I bet. Does he deserve future
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: I mean his life in will be Houston, okay, see
[1:08:51] Speaker 3: but no you can't you can't finish your career in Houston.
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: Hall of Famer?
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: I bet. He started looking around.
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: You didn't that's not your city. They need a point
[1:08:54] Speaker 5: He was throwing Halloween parties.
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: guard I'm talking.
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: Ain't nobody coming. We will get to that in a second.
[1:08:56] Speaker 3: About the reason he came back here is to be
[1:08:58] Speaker 3: with his family and.
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: New Orleans. New Orleans.
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: He can see his kids every day, grow up, play
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: high school basketball.
[1:09:20] Speaker 3: And then shit hit the fan, and he said, look,
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: I just want to finish my career off somewhere.
[1:09:25] Speaker 1: I mean, the Pelicans is the only team he can
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: really go to where his career was built.
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: Right? I mean, Spurs, Pelicans, Rockets, Thunder. Spurs, he played
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: there for a year. That's not his career, man.
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: Whatever. He was at the NBA Cup, dapping up Wimby.
[1:09:39] Speaker 2: Okay, let's try it again.
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: Zachary Blue. His career that he stayed, that he has
[1:09:44] Speaker 1: a fan base, is....
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: Clippers, New Orleans. A little bit of OKC.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: Why don't you go back to New Orleans?
[1:09:51] Speaker 2: As I said, it's the only place that makes sense.
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: Suns?
[1:09:54] Speaker 2: I mean, he got to the final there. Oh, yeah, yeah, Suns.
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: You got to throw the Suns in there because that was...
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: I look at it like this.
[1:10:02] Speaker 2: Where would your jersey be retired?
[1:10:03] Speaker 5: Clippers or New Orleans.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: New Orleans. Then the Clippers failed, so it's like New
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: Orleans where you started your career is the only one
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. Him going to Houston and retiring,
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: it just makes sense.
[1:10:14] Speaker 3: If he wins it in Phoenix. I mean, at this point,
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: I was going to say, beggars can't be choosers. Whoever
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: has a spot on the roster wants to give it
[1:10:21] Speaker 3: to him. But he has to be traded, too.
[1:10:22] Speaker 6: Listen, bro, they said he threw a Halloween party.
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's get into that.
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: So ESPN's Ramona Shelburne dropped an article Tuesday shedding more
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: insight into the factors that led to Paul's abrupt divorce
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: from the team. So according to her report, CP3 was
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: told he was expected to be an intervention veteran leader
[1:10:40] Speaker 3: and to not expect too much playing time. So CP3
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: attempted to be a vocal leader during his time with
[1:10:45] Speaker 3: the team, like he's always been, but his leadership style
[1:10:47] Speaker 3: clashed with some players and coaches and members of the
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: front office. So according to his former Clippers teammate John Collins,
[1:10:52] Speaker 3: actually current Clippers teammate, he's still on the team. According
[1:10:55] Speaker 3: to John Collins, Paul was leading the team's second unit,
[1:10:57] Speaker 3: routinely kicking the starters' ass in training camp. And then
[1:11:01] Speaker 3: we shift over to starter season after the Clippers got
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: smacked by the Jazz in their season opener. Paul attempted
[1:11:05] Speaker 3: to bring the team together to encourage a dialogue, but
[1:11:08] Speaker 3: it fell flat amongst the veteran players. CBT also tried
[1:11:11] Speaker 3: to organize a Halloween party for the team after their
[1:11:13] Speaker 3: win over the Pelicans October 31st, but only three players
[1:11:17] Speaker 3: showed up. So Clippers are 1-9 in the last 10 games,
[1:11:20] Speaker 3: 1-4 since parting ways with CP3. So what is the
[1:11:24] Speaker 3: Chris Paul situation exposed about the Clippers as a team
[1:11:28] Speaker 3: and organization?
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: Nigga had a Halloween party. Three people showed up, Mr. B.
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: Three people. Like Bradley, Bill, Zubach, I don't know.
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: They said they tried to do what you did. At
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: the Intuit Dome. It was at the arena.
[1:11:38] Speaker 5: They said he tried to have a million-dollar party for Halloween.
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: Just him, his wife.
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: A million-dollar party.
[1:11:44] Speaker 2: No, I mean, I went to one before. This shit
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: was poppin'. Well, not this year. When he played with
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: the Clippers, it was popping.
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: Clippers is known for having legendary Halloween parties, for those
[1:11:55] Speaker 1: that don't know.
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: No, he do have legendary Halloween parties.
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: Clippers were known as a team pulling up back in
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: the Lob City era.
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: Their Halloween party used to be popping. Used to be
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: very popping. Conga Room, amongst other locations. CB3 did it
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: at the Intuit Dome, the very arena. Oh, he did
[1:12:11] Speaker 3: it in the arena? Oh, that's why nobody came. It
[1:12:13] Speaker 3: was after the game. Literally, take your shower, throw your
[1:12:18] Speaker 3: clothes on, and just come over here. You don't even
[1:12:20] Speaker 3: got to leave the facility.
[1:12:22] Speaker 2: And they left. And niggas said, uh.
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: They left.
[1:12:24] Speaker 6: They was like, hey, we got a Halloween party up there.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: Walk past the party in hands and go to they car.
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: Oh, cool. All that crap. Shake people's hands.
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: They like.
[1:12:32] Speaker 1: I go to a real party. I'll be right back.
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back.
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: All that crap. David and 445. Can't you roll? Man,
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: you got to hate the motherfuckers. I'll call you motherfuckers
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: when I really need to get home. The makeup excuses?
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: You know how bad you got to hit somebody to
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: walk past his party? You at his party, I'm serious.
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: You walk past. You're already at the party. You're in
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: the venue where the party's at.
[1:12:57] Speaker 10: Because you know if you come in, you got to
[1:12:59] Speaker 10: stay for a drink or something.
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: Listen, they got costumes and makeup, everything there for you.
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: You ain't got to leave. Those are the fastest showers ever. What?
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm going to go home and get
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: my costumes. I'll be back. They got costumes right there.
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: I'll be back. Yeah, all right. You on that 405? Hey, low-key,
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: I don't... Okay, I know we didn't know about it.
[1:13:23] Speaker 2: What?
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: Did y'all arenas have clubs in them?
[1:13:28] Speaker 2: The Lakers did.
[1:13:29] Speaker 3: The Lakers had High Lounge, amongst others.
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:13:31] Speaker 2: Did the Timberwolves have one? No.
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: When I went to Orlando, like, after games, they went
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: to the club. Like, they clubbed.
[1:13:40] Speaker 2: I didn't know. I was like, damn, I.
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: I was like, dude, man, we got the Wizards.
[1:13:45] Speaker 2: High Lounge at Staples Center, known for turning up after
[1:13:47] Speaker 2: Lakers and Kings games. Man, that was great, yeah.
[1:13:49] Speaker 3: So instead of them going to the club, they just
[1:13:51] Speaker 3: went upstairs and... Hang out, let traffic die down, get
[1:13:54] Speaker 3: yourself a little beverage, some music.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: I think only certain.
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: Atlanta has that, for sure. Atlanta, Miami has that. The
[1:13:59] Speaker 5: Lakers have it. I know Orlando has it, like you said.
[1:14:02] Speaker 7: I played there.
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: I think it just depends. And two of them got
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: in there. Oh, for hard, yeah.
[1:14:08] Speaker 2: Just, I mean, because he said they had it.
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about to say they had it.
[1:14:12] Speaker 3: But in all sincerity, y'all, you got CP3 trying to
[1:14:15] Speaker 3: be a leader, trying to rally this team together. I'm
[1:14:17] Speaker 3: throwing a Halloween party for you ungrateful niggas. Y'all don't
[1:14:19] Speaker 3: even want to come turn up with me. Got costumes
[1:14:22] Speaker 3: for all y'all. Roblox, Minecraft, who knows?
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: Just saying.
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: Six, seven.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Six for Kawhi, seven for James Harden. Wizards did.
[1:14:33] Speaker 3: What does this Chris Paul situation expose about the Clippers
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: as a team and an organization?
[1:14:40] Speaker 7: Not going to look into it too much. Guys just
[1:14:47] Speaker 7: don't fuck with CP. Or that they were busy and
[1:14:51] Speaker 7: don't have other shit to do. Got some other shit
[1:14:57] Speaker 7: to do. Got other plans, my nigga. They was messy
[1:15:03] Speaker 7: as right. They walking past it. Got some other plans,
[1:15:08] Speaker 7: my nigga. Appreciate it. But I mean, we look at it,
[1:15:14] Speaker 7: you know, laugh at it like it's CP fault or
[1:15:16] Speaker 7: it's some discrepancy upon him. Then there's going to be
[1:15:20] Speaker 7: a narrative that's going to be painted. See, they don't
[1:15:23] Speaker 7: fuck with CP. Nobody showed up. They don't want to
[1:15:25] Speaker 7: go to this party. Zubac did go, though, in his defense.
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: Zubac. People who didn't have shit to do went.
[1:15:33] Speaker 7: He's very active in LA. He ain't got shit to do, man.
[1:15:36] Speaker 7: I'm going to chill a little bit. Zubac was there.
[1:15:39] Speaker 7: I ain't from here.
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: What?
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: Halloween party.
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: I ain't from here.
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: Zubac don't care.
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: He pulling up. Show love to his teammates. Chris is
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: going to be passing to him. Nah, brother.
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:15:48] Speaker 1: It's all good.
[1:15:50] Speaker 7: I mean, Clippers going to be the Clippers, man. It
[1:15:52] Speaker 7: seems like it never fails for them to get out
[1:15:56] Speaker 7: of that abyss that they've been stuck in. So, I mean,
[1:16:04] Speaker 7: my advice to CP is just keep trucking, man. Keep
[1:16:07] Speaker 7: doing what you're doing. Don't change your beat. Don't change
[1:16:10] Speaker 7: anything you've been doing. Because that's just like I already said,
[1:16:13] Speaker 7: like Kobe said, leadership is lonely. And everybody not going to.
[1:16:17] Speaker 7: going to follow you. Everybody's not going to be on
[1:16:19] Speaker 7: the same tune, frequency you on. But some people are.
[1:16:22] Speaker 7: The people who are, the people you leave a lasting
[1:16:24] Speaker 7: impression with. So, John Collins.
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: Rock with him. Wake Forest, obviously.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: Batum, fuck with him.
[1:16:32] Speaker 7: Zubox.
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: Even Kawhi said he fuck with him.
[1:16:35] Speaker 7: Kawhi fuck with him.
[1:16:36] Speaker 1: It's certain guys that fuck with him.
[1:16:37] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? But when you have different
[1:16:39] Speaker 7: crews and different, you know what I'm saying?
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: Like, they separate.
[1:16:44] Speaker 7: If it's James Harden over here and it's this person
[1:16:47] Speaker 7: over here and this person.
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: You're going to go with your crew.
[1:16:50] Speaker 2: Crews go with their crew.
[1:16:51] Speaker 1: We separate.
[1:16:51] Speaker 7: We don't fuck with that crew.
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: They don't fuck with us.
[1:16:54] Speaker 7: We'll see y'all niggas at practice. We'll see y'all niggas
[1:16:56] Speaker 7: at brunch, whatever. But that rolls over into the game,
[1:17:01] Speaker 7: which is that it seems like it is. So Chris
[1:17:05] Speaker 7: was whooping their ass in practice, which is what seemed
[1:17:09] Speaker 7: to be my– My conclusion of it all, I'm whooping
[1:17:12] Speaker 7: y'all ass, I'm talking that shit. Hey, yeah, let's kick
[1:17:14] Speaker 7: they ass. Them niggas was mad and somebody was too
[1:17:17] Speaker 7: mad to the point of, get this nigga out of here.
[1:17:21] Speaker 7: Coming in here whooping my ass every day.
[1:17:24] Speaker 5: But don't you think if people, if your peers and
[1:17:26] Speaker 5: people don't like you and they're saying things about you,
[1:17:28] Speaker 5: don't you think you should change your ways?
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: Yes, you should.
[1:17:31] Speaker 2: Hey, wasn't he a part of the CBA agreement, right?
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: That bullshit contracts, all that shit. Took the middleman out,
[1:17:38] Speaker 2: all that shit.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you should.
[1:17:40] Speaker 2: That's what it is. The karma's coming back, bro. Nice
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: fucking neck.
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. Big fucking eyes.
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't look at me, motherfucker. Keep your thumbs to yourselves, man.
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: Are those prescription?
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: Yes, motherfucker. Blue on blind. Oh.
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: You want to see how that is?
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: Can you see it clearly? Because it's like at a
[1:17:58] Speaker 1: certain angle, his eyes just look all big.
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: Nice fucking fish. Big fucking eyes. You want to see?
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: No.
[1:18:04] Speaker 2: Let me see how you're looking.
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: See?
[1:18:07] Speaker 2: See? If Chris Paul would have did that, the nigga
[1:18:10] Speaker 2: would have threw his glasses. Wait, how do you see it?
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: I can't read that.
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: You look good right now, boy. Whoa.
[1:18:18] Speaker 4: Hey, you's a handsome man. I like you like this.
[1:18:21] Speaker 4: But back to Chris Paul. Everybody's not a leader. If
[1:18:26] Speaker 4: they don't want you to be the leader, everybody had
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: that guy that always talk and think they the leader.
[1:18:31] Speaker 4: And niggas be like, man, shut the fuck up.
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: Shit like that. All right?
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: So.
[1:18:36] Speaker 4: If they're not responsive to it, take another approach. Try
[1:18:38] Speaker 4: another angle. That's what being a leader is about.
[1:18:42] Speaker 2: Shit. Stop talking about this motherfucker. Hey, Nick. Oh, he
[1:18:47] Speaker 2: played for him.
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:18:48] Speaker 2: Hey, Nick. So you didn't like him, huh?
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: Oh, he talked to you like that? Yeah.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: Worse than us? Nick.
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: Did he talk to you worse than us? That was
[1:18:55] Speaker 1: a good take, Nick. That was a good take. I know. Well,
[1:18:58] Speaker 1: we was worse than him?
[1:19:01] Speaker 2: At least you did it in my face.
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: At least you did it in my face.
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: Oh, so he had your picture. Oh, he's OK.
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: Oh, he's OK.
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: He's worse than Karan? We on TV.
[1:19:14] Speaker 1: So it's personal. We're on YouTube. So it's personal is
[1:19:18] Speaker 1: what you're trying to say. No, I know.
[1:19:20] Speaker 2: It's personal. I know from personal.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: Which one would you rather play with, Karan?
[1:19:27] Speaker 2: Which one is Karan? No, I'm just saying. No, that's good.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: Shut up. They had to, listen, with Karan, they had to,
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: they all agreed, listen, it's more of us than him.
[1:19:46] Speaker 1: We all not passing him the ball. I remember that.
[1:19:50] Speaker 1: What did he say? Pass me the ball, bitch. Pass
[1:19:53] Speaker 1: it to me like I'm 21.
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: It was that bad.
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: It was like, he is the best player on the team,
[1:19:59] Speaker 1: and you get two or three of them on the
[1:20:01] Speaker 1: court together.
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: They was refusing to pass him the ball.
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: It was done. Twine was going by himself.
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: Hey, payback time.
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: He's alone. He's alone. What are you going to do?
[1:20:11] Speaker 2: If he tries to get us, we're going to jump him.
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: It was the funniest team.
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: Karan shot six straight shots.
[1:20:20] Speaker 2: Somebody hit him, like, took a shot.
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: Called a timeout. Damn, man, we didn't pass the ball around.
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: For real. Crazy, bro.
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: Damn. For real.
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: Cold-blooded.
[1:20:35] Speaker 2: Loud.
[1:20:36] Speaker 4: Listen to that shit.
[1:20:41] Speaker 1: Be like tough juice.
[1:20:43] Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it works out for CP3. He can end
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: his 21st final season in the league on a high
[1:20:49] Speaker 3: note and get some semblance of a retirement tour.
[1:20:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. Bring him back at the end then. Send everybody home.
[1:20:55] Speaker 1: Bring up the G League. Just let him come for
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: game 82. All right. Well, let's keep this thing moving. So,
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Never been one to bite his tongue and
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: no topic is off limits. KD pulled up to his
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: teammate Fred VanVleet's unguarded show recently to discuss a variety
[1:21:10] Speaker 1: of topics, which included him shedding some more light on
[1:21:13] Speaker 1: his decision to leave the Thunder back in the summer
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: of 2016 to team up with Steph and the Warriors.
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: We had a lot of specialists.
[1:21:24] Speaker 11: We had dudes that played defense that really couldn't score
[1:21:27] Speaker 11: on their own, really couldn't shoot the ball. We had
[1:21:30] Speaker 11: a guy that probably could shoot, but can't really guard
[1:21:31] Speaker 11: that well. So there's a lot that go into trying
[1:21:34] Speaker 11: to make that offense work. And we did a solid job,
[1:21:37] Speaker 11: and I'm looking at Golden State, and they calling me,
[1:21:41] Speaker 11: and I'm like, shit, the average probably won 20 a game.
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: For sure.
[1:21:47] Speaker 2: Hell yeah, adding you to the equation for damn sure.
[1:21:49] Speaker 11: I'm not worried about the zone every time I catch
[1:21:51] Speaker 11: the ball.
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: Top-locking, double-teaming, game start.
[1:21:56] Speaker 11: I felt like we made the game better because you
[1:21:59] Speaker 11: had to come with it from the first possession of
[1:22:01] Speaker 11: the game or you.
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: Would get blown out.
[1:22:02] Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: And we went on third-quarter runs. That was insane. We
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: had 50 points in the third quarter.
[1:22:09] Speaker 3: So you got to understand KD's reasoning for leaving the
[1:22:11] Speaker 3: Thunder to join the Warriors?
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: When he explains it like that. LeBron James.
[1:22:18] Speaker 5: He was following LeBron James. He do everything LeBron James do.
[1:22:26] Speaker 5: stop what are you talking about I mean it is
[1:22:29] Speaker 5: like they do everything LeBron do.
[1:22:36] Speaker 1: No I'm looking at that team and that third quarter
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: was great no he was he's I see what he's
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: saying it's built like a 2k team if they playing
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: comp right you only you build it you build it
[1:22:50] Speaker 1: as a team for these people not to do certain
[1:22:52] Speaker 1: things so the.
[1:22:54] Speaker 2: Shooting guard was what Roberson.
[1:22:58] Speaker 1: Right?
[1:22:58] Speaker 2: That was the shooting guard?
[1:22:59] Speaker 7: Cephalosa.
[1:23:01] Speaker 2: When they went to the.
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: No, Cephalosa.
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: 2015-16 Thunder? No, the 2015-16 Thunder? It was the 14,
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: ain't it? You left summer of 16. Yeah, it was 16.
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: So it was Roberson who couldn't shoot the ball.
[1:23:17] Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm pretty sure he's talking about Mauro who
[1:23:23] Speaker 1: can shoot but didn't really do anything else.
[1:23:27] Speaker 7: Mauro's a lethal shooter.
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a lethal, yeah.
[1:23:31] Speaker 3: Obviously, KD led that team in scoring, followed by Westbrook,
[1:23:34] Speaker 3: Serge Ibaka.
[1:23:35] Speaker 7: Serge can shoot.
[1:23:36] Speaker 2: It went 12-10, and then... Deion Waiters.
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: Deion Waiters can shoot it. Coming off the bench. Who else?
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: Steven Adams was on that team. Reggie Jackson was on
[1:23:44] Speaker 1: that team.
[1:23:44] Speaker 2: Young Reggie. You got Randy Floyd, Nick Collison. Randy can
[1:23:47] Speaker 2: shoot that bitch. But what year was that for Randy?
[1:23:51] Speaker 2: All three of them played the same.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: No, no, no. It was gone. That was Randy before Utah.
[1:23:57] Speaker 2: But kind of after the Clippers, Randy was like, Clippers.
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: He could shoot it. Yeah, he could still shoot. Yeah,
[1:24:02] Speaker 2: for sure.
[1:24:03] Speaker 7: What he talking about, what he acting like that the
[1:24:05] Speaker 7: team didn't have nothing that can offset all the other
[1:24:10] Speaker 7: teams he's been on based on after Golden State. Top
[1:24:14] Speaker 7: blocking and doubling and all that. It's like, it's a
[1:24:16] Speaker 7: part of who you are.
[1:24:17] Speaker 1: Nigga, you're KD'd.
[1:24:19] Speaker 7: If you don't got Steph and Clay, nigga, who the
[1:24:21] Speaker 7: fuck is going to be top-locking and doubling you?
[1:24:23] Speaker 1: Nigga, we not.
[1:24:24] Speaker 2: They the best shooters ever.
[1:24:26] Speaker 7: So, man, outside of that, like, whatever team you go to,
[1:24:30] Speaker 7: that's what kind of treatment you going to get.
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: You're KD.
[1:24:34] Speaker 7: We top-locking. We trying to get the ball out your hands.
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: It don't matter.
[1:24:39] Speaker 2: Even Russ.
[1:24:39] Speaker 7: You look at Russ there, and you talking about that
[1:24:41] Speaker 7: with him and Russ. Like, damn, so what was it?
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: Four on?
[1:24:44] Speaker 7: Two niggas guarding each nigga?
[1:24:46] Speaker 2: For all that, they were still up, what, 3-1?
[1:24:49] Speaker 1: No, but when you're talking about help side defense, right?
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: You got Russ who can't shoot the ball that good.
[1:24:55] Speaker 1: Russ driving that bitch on the catch. Yeah, but when
[1:24:57] Speaker 1: you're talking about loading up, you can load off of Russ, right?
[1:25:01] Speaker 1: You load him off Robinson. So you're going to top
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: lock him in. You're going to corral him.
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: So he's probably frustrated.
[1:25:07] Speaker 1: Got to get over that. Reggie there.
[1:25:10] Speaker 2: Reggie there. Reggie there.
[1:25:11] Speaker 7: I know what he's saying. He's saying first quarters. First quarters,
[1:25:15] Speaker 7: we're going to make it tough on KD because we're
[1:25:17] Speaker 7: going to sag off everybody and wah, wah, wah. But
[1:25:19] Speaker 7: we have a team that's going to adjust to that.
[1:25:21] Speaker 7: You can't do this the whole game.
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: Man.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: We've got players. We've got Marlboro. We've got Waiters. We've
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: got Serg. Reggie Jackson wasn't there yet.
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: I can do that shit right here.
[1:25:28] Speaker 2: You can't top block this.
[1:25:30] Speaker 1: Do that right here.
[1:25:32] Speaker 2: Eddie, in the post.
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, the top block. When he's trying to come off
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: a pin down, they're just going to top block it,
[1:25:36] Speaker 1: push him the other way. Wait, Reggie James? They didn't
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: have enough. What really hurt them is when obviously James
[1:25:43] Speaker 1: Harden leaves because with James Harden, it's more balanced, so...
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: They kind of went down. And it was just the opportunity.
[1:25:52] Speaker 1: They still was up 3-1. No, but it's still the opportunity.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: The opportunity presented itself. He's a free agent. And this
[1:25:59] Speaker 1: team said, hey, come over.
[1:26:00] Speaker 2: It's like D-Rose and 3-D on the same team with Rustic.
[1:26:03] Speaker 5: No, but what I'm saying is, remember, he lost?
[1:26:07] Speaker 2: Okay. He's a free agent. He can go anywhere.
[1:26:10] Speaker 1: The number one team says, hey, we need your help, whatever.
[1:26:14] Speaker 1: Come over.
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: They're calling you, making you feel appreciated.
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: And they fly to you.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: Man, listen, I can understand loyalty, and then I can
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: understand the opportunity. The opportunity is I'm looking at three
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: dudes that's like shooters, shooters, specialists at whatever he does,
[1:26:37] Speaker 1: and I'm like, you add me?
[1:26:39] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. This is crazy. And I can.
[1:26:45] Speaker 7: Like, they puffed him.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: They flew to him? No, they flew to him.
[1:26:47] Speaker 5: I know.
[1:26:47] Speaker 2: They did.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: Listen, we're going to give you these two albums. They're
[1:26:51] Speaker 1: where you at?
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: Shit, I mean.
[1:26:52] Speaker 5: Listen, we're going to give you these two albums, all right?
[1:26:53] Speaker 5: We're going to make you a star.
[1:26:54] Speaker 1: Bad boy. You're going to get out of here. This
[1:26:55] Speaker 1: bad boy.
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: Get him out of here.
[1:26:57] Speaker 1: I'm looking at him.
[1:26:58] Speaker 6: We're going to put you on this black jet.
[1:27:01] Speaker 7: On some snowfall shit. Them niggas came down through the set,
[1:27:03] Speaker 7: did a drive-by.
[1:27:04] Speaker 1: Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And
[1:27:07] Speaker 1: then got up out of there.
[1:27:08] Speaker 7: And he was like, hey, man, I'm not trying to
[1:27:10] Speaker 7: get shot up like this no more.
[1:27:13] Speaker 3: What if Eddie had more guns and they just ran
[1:27:15] Speaker 3: out of bullets? They were doing better shooting.
[1:27:21] Speaker 1: He got shot. I'm breathing different, B. I can't walk
[1:27:27] Speaker 1: the same, B. Man, pull your skirt down. That's Russ.
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: Russ like, man, pull your skirt down, B.
[1:27:31] Speaker 7: Niggas get shot every day, B.
[1:27:33] Speaker 2: And them pay cuts he took? Them pay cuts he took,
[1:27:37] Speaker 2: we can see that it was for a good reason.
[1:27:40] Speaker 2: You're going to Silicon Valley. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[1:27:43] Speaker 2: Them pay cuts you took. Yeah, for sure.
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: It all worked out. Them Silicon boys. You don't need
[1:27:49] Speaker 1: that $ 10 million on the books. I got this Uber.
[1:27:52] Speaker 1: It's called Uber Eats.
[1:27:54] Speaker 5: It was still a good business move at the end
[1:27:56] Speaker 5: of the day. It was still a good business move
[1:27:57] Speaker 5: for the long term and everything.
[1:27:59] Speaker 7: My question is, does he need to say that when
[1:28:01] Speaker 7: we already respect the fact that you did what you
[1:28:04] Speaker 7: thought was best for you?
[1:28:07] Speaker 1: I feel like you're just having a free-flowing conversation. You
[1:28:09] Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? But now it sounds like an excuse.
[1:28:12] Speaker 7: It doesn't sound like I made a decision based on
[1:28:15] Speaker 7: I just wanted to go to another situation.
[1:28:17] Speaker 5: Because he keeps hearing it. I think because he keeps
[1:28:19] Speaker 5: hearing it on the internet.
[1:28:19] Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying.
[1:28:20] Speaker 7: But what he just said is like, I left because
[1:28:22] Speaker 7: I was getting top-sided and da-da-da-da-da. That's a whole different
[1:28:26] Speaker 7: dynamic from the respect you're getting from, man, he just
[1:28:30] Speaker 7: wanted to go to another team, man.
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: He ain't like the situation. He wanted to go.
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: But it can't be.
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It can't be. I mean,
[1:28:37] Speaker 1: it sounds like he was too. It can't be an excuse.
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: It's his version of why he left. We've never heard
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: him say why he left. He said, I left because
[1:28:46] Speaker 1: this is how the game was going for me.
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: I'm looking at that.
[1:28:50] Speaker 1: It's going about 100-something to put me in there. I'm good.
[1:28:52] Speaker 5: So let me go win them championships. So after a decade,
[1:28:54] Speaker 5: now we want to, like, what happened when people was
[1:28:56] Speaker 5: asking before?
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: But usually people when they get older eventually say, all right,
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: this is why. Yeah, for sure. That's the better.
[1:29:02] Speaker 2: That's just the better.
[1:29:03] Speaker 7: Like you said, he up 3-1 and we got a
[1:29:05] Speaker 7: bunch of specialists that's doing X, Y, Z. We here
[1:29:08] Speaker 7: up 3-1. We can beat this team. Whatever reason we
[1:29:12] Speaker 7: didn't beat this team ain't got shit to do with
[1:29:14] Speaker 7: the specialists. We up 3-1. Let's take this shit to
[1:29:18] Speaker 7: the house. But then we leave this situation and go
[1:29:22] Speaker 7: to another team after this. That's a different conversation.
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: We heard a different version.
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: Didn't he say he left because of Westbrook? Uh-huh.
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: That was one. That was one. From him? Yeah.
[1:29:33] Speaker 2: Depends on him.
[1:29:34] Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you're saying he
[1:29:37] Speaker 1: should stay. Why should I commit more? I've already committed enough.
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: I'm in OKC.
[1:29:43] Speaker 2: Who are y'all bringing?
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: I'm a free agent. If I sign this max contract,
[1:29:47] Speaker 1: who are you bringing?
[1:29:48] Speaker 2: I'm stuck with the same group.
[1:29:49] Speaker 7: I don't think they're saying don't stay. They're saying don't
[1:29:52] Speaker 7: go to that team. That's what the whole thing is.
[1:29:56] Speaker 1: I know what the world is saying, but this is
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: my career.
[1:30:00] Speaker 2: That's what Russell Westbrook said. I'm cool, but you.
[1:30:02] Speaker 1: Don't have a choice.
[1:30:04] Speaker 2: Out of all of them.
[1:30:07] Speaker 1: They just sprayed the block, bro. We can't go to them.
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: But I have the two championships and the two finals MVP.
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: I made a good decision.
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: That puts me here.
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: Your career is going to be always challenged because you
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: don't have it.
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: Your loyalty to them.
[1:30:22] Speaker 1: For them to do the same thing they would have
[1:30:24] Speaker 1: did to any of us. But you saying, man, fuck him.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: He said, I'm OKC. They traded you.
[1:30:30] Speaker 7: But do you know why they traded me? Why they
[1:30:32] Speaker 7: traded me? Because we could have won together, but you left.
[1:30:35] Speaker 1: That's where Russ's head is like, they didn't get rid
[1:30:40] Speaker 1: of me because we didn't win. But what is the
[1:30:43] Speaker 1: whole point of it?
[1:30:47] Speaker 7: Look, Russ got an MVP, but think about this. Russ
[1:30:52] Speaker 7: is saying, don't go leave us to go to them
[1:30:55] Speaker 7: that beat us. And then we're saying, well.
[1:30:58] Speaker 1: I got these two. I'm good.
[1:31:00] Speaker 7: You don't got nothing. And look what they did to
[1:31:02] Speaker 7: you based on you not having nothing. That wouldn't have
[1:31:05] Speaker 7: happened if you were to stay with us. We would
[1:31:08] Speaker 7: have won one. We would have won one. We would
[1:31:13] Speaker 7: have won one.
[1:31:13] Speaker 5: It was James Harden. Losing 3-1 and then trying to
[1:31:16] Speaker 5: come back again?
[1:31:16] Speaker 1: No way. It was a James Harden move that messed up.
[1:31:20] Speaker 1: You said 3-1, right? Alright, what happened? They lost.
[1:31:23] Speaker 7: When LeBron changed them and then what happened? Came back
[1:31:26] Speaker 7: and won.
[1:31:26] Speaker 1: The next year, who won? The Warriors. The Warriors. Same
[1:31:37] Speaker 1: thing would have happened, nigga.
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: No, they loaded up. They got KD.
[1:31:39] Speaker 1: Same thing. No, I'm saying if KD stays. KD stays,
[1:31:43] Speaker 1: we go back. We run it back, and we win.
[1:31:45] Speaker 2: No, they don't.
[1:31:46] Speaker 1: No, they don't. We gave up. They gave somebody up. So, look. No, no. No,
[1:31:50] Speaker 1: we consider LeBron. That LeBron thing.
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: Out there.
[1:31:53] Speaker 1: Golden State is getting somebody that time. If Golden State
[1:31:56] Speaker 1: was that same team, they're not winning. They're not beating KD.
[1:31:59] Speaker 2: They're not beating Ole Miss.
[1:32:00] Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. They're getting somebody in the summer. Wait,
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: hold on. Y'all not realizing.
[1:32:03] Speaker 2: They're saying they need somebody. Listen.
[1:32:05] Speaker 1: Are y'all forgetting they signed Kevin Durant to a deal,
[1:32:10] Speaker 1: meaning they have all the money. But they don't have
[1:32:14] Speaker 1: a KD, though. They don't have a KD. KD's available.
[1:32:18] Speaker 1: KD's available. I'm saying they would have got. I can't
[1:32:21] Speaker 1: get two mid players.
[1:32:22] Speaker 12: You're not going to get a KD, though. But you
[1:32:24] Speaker 12: can get two or three players. The KD made a difference.
[1:32:28] Speaker 12: KD made a difference. KD was a bazooka. It was overkill.
[1:32:34] Speaker 12: I didn't need overkill. When we played against Cavs, that
[1:32:40] Speaker 12: wasn't even a series. Did that even look like.
[1:32:44] Speaker 7: LeBron came back from 3-1 to win the series.
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: And the next year, the Warriors won.
[1:32:52] Speaker 2: Got KD.
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: KD. So, if you.
[1:32:55] Speaker 7: KD, don't go. to the motherfucking Warriors. We run it
[1:33:01] Speaker 7: back and we beat the Warriors.
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: But then you lose to LeBron in the final.
[1:33:05] Speaker 2: No.
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: Maybe. No, the problem is OKC has to run it
[1:33:11] Speaker 1: back with the same team because they have no money
[1:33:13] Speaker 1: once they sign KD. Uh-huh. Golden State, they get to
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: add more players because they have all the money. But
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: you don't get to add KD. But I can add
[1:33:23] Speaker 1: another superstar. But we won. We don't give a fuck
[1:33:26] Speaker 1: who you add. No, you do not. Yes, we do.
[1:33:28] Speaker 1: We're adding another superstar. We won. We got your number.
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: And then we're going to add two more superstars. You're
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: not adding a KD. We don't need a KD. Yes,
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: you do. We just went 73-9. We don't need a bazooka.
[1:33:39] Speaker 1: We need two other players. And you lost. 73-9 and
[1:33:41] Speaker 1: we lost. And we lost in a game seven. Yes,
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: in a fucking game seven.
[1:33:46] Speaker 7: Came down to a game seven.
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: We lost. I was there. We running it back again.
[1:33:50] Speaker 1: It's the same thing. And we added two players. What
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: the hell? We lost in a game seven.
[1:33:55] Speaker 2: Who was available that year?
[1:33:57] Speaker 1: A little LeBron. Cameron LeBron. Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Al Horford,
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: DeMar DeRozan. Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Al Horford, DeMar DeRozan,
[1:34:09] Speaker 1: Michael Conley, Andre Drummond, Dwayne Wade, Hassan Whiteside, Batum was
[1:34:18] Speaker 1: free agency. None of them are Kevin Durants.
[1:34:22] Speaker 2: I can sign three.
[1:34:23] Speaker 1: None of them equals to Kevin Durant. Easy money sniper.
[1:34:27] Speaker 7: You need 50-40-90 to beat LeBron James. I don't need
[1:34:30] Speaker 7: Kevin Durant.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: 50-40-90.
[1:34:32] Speaker 7: You need to cancel LeBron out.
[1:34:37] Speaker 2: You need to cancel LeBron out.
[1:34:39] Speaker 1: Who hit the shots to beat? He's talking about beating OKC.
[1:34:46] Speaker 1: Two of these players, one of these players, I run
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: through OKC again because they're running it back with the
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: same exact team.
[1:34:52] Speaker 7: But you're not running. I'm 73-9. I'm 73-9, and I'm
[1:34:57] Speaker 7: adding more players. But you're down 3-1, bro. Regardless of
[1:35:02] Speaker 7: what you need, we need one game to get y'all
[1:35:05] Speaker 7: out of here.
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: If I get Al Horford, is my team better? You
[1:35:08] Speaker 1: might run it. If you add Al Horford, y'all might
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: take a 6-1. game. If I get Al Horford, do
[1:35:17] Speaker 1: I beat OKC? No. No, you lose at six. No,
[1:35:20] Speaker 1: you lose.
[1:35:21] Speaker 7: Hey, you get DeMar DeRozan, we take you to seven.
[1:35:23] Speaker 7: Al Horford, we take you to seven.
[1:35:26] Speaker 1: Back then?
[1:35:26] Speaker 5: Yes.
[1:35:27] Speaker 1: No. They just went seven.
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: Well, you can't play with Al Horford. What you going
[1:35:33] Speaker 1: to do with Al Horford? We got Serge Ibaka. We
[1:35:36] Speaker 1: got motherfuckers. We got motherfuckers. Come on, man.
[1:35:38] Speaker 6: So you're adding a pick and pop big with Steph
[1:35:42] Speaker 6: Curry doing a 7-3-9 that can also pick and pop,
[1:35:47] Speaker 6: take the ball off the dribble.
[1:35:48] Speaker 1: He's a better dribbler. Kevin Durant. I get that. What
[1:35:51] Speaker 1: are you talking about? We still have another all-star, and
[1:35:53] Speaker 1: then we can add another all-star.
[1:35:55] Speaker 7: 3-1.
[1:35:55] Speaker 1: 3-1. They had a 3-1. They had a 3-1. 3-1.
[1:35:59] Speaker 7: You went down twice in the whole playoffs 3-1.
[1:36:03] Speaker 1: 3-1. Twice in a 73-9 season. You went down 3-1 twice.
[1:36:09] Speaker 1: And you guys were the same team back. Twice? We
[1:36:12] Speaker 1: went down 3-1 twice in a season. Come on. We're
[1:36:14] Speaker 1: not talking about beating Cavs. We're talking about beating the
[1:36:17] Speaker 1: OKC if he went back. There's a reason he didn't
[1:36:19] Speaker 1: go back. He didn't believe this team was championship. So
[1:36:22] Speaker 1: he left. They took their heart. It was a wrap.
[1:36:25] Speaker 1: When you have 3-1, it's over. You think you can
[1:36:27] Speaker 1: come back and get it next year? It's deeper. It's
[1:36:29] Speaker 1: deeper than that. They took the Warriors' heart. Remember, you
[1:36:32] Speaker 1: can't take one person's heart in a 3-1 series and
[1:36:34] Speaker 1: not take it. Who took the Warriors' heart?
[1:36:37] Speaker 10: LeBron James! And why you think they went and got
[1:36:39] Speaker 10: a bazooka? That bazooka was available. If he stays, you
[1:36:48] Speaker 10: don't get to go get the bazooka.
[1:36:50] Speaker 1: You got to settle for DeMar DeRozan. DeMar DeRozan takes
[1:36:53] Speaker 1: you over the top against him.
[1:36:54] Speaker 10: I'm not talking about LeBron James.
[1:37:00] Speaker 1: I'm saying if I got DeMar DeRozan, OKC. You're going
[1:37:04] Speaker 1: back to OKC. You're behind us again still. You're talking
[1:37:07] Speaker 1: about the second year. You're talking about when we run
[1:37:10] Speaker 1: it back. And we run it back.
[1:37:12] Speaker 7: Instead of getting KD and you get DeMar DeRozan.
[1:37:15] Speaker 1: You're not running nothing back. You're losing. DeMar DeRozan was
[1:37:19] Speaker 1: averaging 20. No matter what, you're not KD. You're not KD.
[1:37:23] Speaker 1: Do you know how easy the game would have been
[1:37:25] Speaker 1: for DeMar DeRozan?
[1:37:26] Speaker 2: Wait, hold on.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: I want y'all to really think about it. A team
[1:37:30] Speaker 1: won 73-9. They go into free agency, and you're saying
[1:37:36] Speaker 1: if they added DeMar DeRozan or Al Horford to their team,
[1:37:43] Speaker 1: meaning they could keep the same players they have and
[1:37:46] Speaker 1: just add these players because they have all the money
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: because Steph Curry wasn't a max contract. So they can
[1:37:53] Speaker 1: sign a max contract. They can sign a max. How
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: do you think they got KD without doing anything? They
[1:37:59] Speaker 1: can sign someone. So if they sign DeMar DeRozan, And
[1:38:03] Speaker 1: Al Horford, because they can sign both. You're saying that
[1:38:06] Speaker 1: 79 and team, adding DeMar and Horford, don't beat OKC. No.
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They had the fucking opportunity to
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: do it. But they said, no, we need KD. What
[1:38:18] Speaker 1: the fuck?
[1:38:19] Speaker 10: If they wanted Al Horford, they would have never went
[1:38:22] Speaker 10: to KD.
[1:38:22] Speaker 1: They said, OK, our fans are winning. We don't want him.
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: We don't want KD. They're going to fly off. the
[1:38:30] Speaker 1: way to go see KD.
[1:38:31] Speaker 10: They're going to go see Al Harper, DeMar DeRozan.
[1:38:35] Speaker 1: They said, what we need to win is KD. There's
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: no other KD out there. Fly to fucking New York. KD,
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: how you doing? They're going to say, all y'all meet here.
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: We're going to meet with all y'all.
[1:38:47] Speaker 10: We ain't met with one person, because that's how they
[1:38:49] Speaker 10: knew they was going to win. So again, you're not.
[1:38:53] Speaker 1: Listening to me.
[1:38:54] Speaker 2: No, you're not listening.
[1:38:54] Speaker 1: You said Al O'Brien, DeMar. Stop. Stop, please.
[1:38:58] Speaker 7: Who went to the championship?
[1:39:02] Speaker 1: Come on, Nick. Don't do style.
[1:39:03] Speaker 2: No, stop. Who went to the championship?
[1:39:06] Speaker 1: Did Golden State beat OKC to go to the championship? Yes.
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: So if they did beat them already, and I add
[1:39:17] Speaker 1: DeMar DeRozan and Al Horford, how am I losing.
[1:39:22] Speaker 7: To OKC Steel? We're going to finish y'all off. We're
[1:39:27] Speaker 7: going to finish y'all off. Who are you saying they're
[1:39:30] Speaker 7: going to lose to? I'm talking about when I'm talking
[1:39:33] Speaker 7: about Golden State versus OKC the next year again, but
[1:39:37] Speaker 7: they added DeMar and Al Horford. He's saying that OKC
[1:39:43] Speaker 7: is going to beat Golden State Warriors.
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: We're not talking about LeBron James. No, we're not. We're
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: talking about OKC. OKC runs it back. Game five, they win.
[1:39:50] Speaker 2: I don't see them being... They don't fit that style.
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: I haven't seen Bernie Bill.
[1:39:57] Speaker 4: Brooks and KD on the same team did not make
[1:39:59] Speaker 4: the playoffs.
[1:40:01] Speaker 1: You just said, you just said, you just said OKC
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: beat Golden State. Boom, and flew it, and they got
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: a new player. They seen, they seen what happened.
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: OKC beat. Took us to the. Yeah, almost took us out.
[1:40:14] Speaker 1: I don't want nobody else by him.
[1:40:15] Speaker 2: OKC beat them.
[1:40:17] Speaker 1: Bruh. They almost did. I know you. I know you.
[1:40:24] Speaker 10: They add Al Horford, DeMar DeRozan, fucking Mike Conley.
[1:40:28] Speaker 1: They just add everybody. I know you got confused.
[1:40:30] Speaker 2: I know you got confused. I'll let it go.
[1:40:33] Speaker 1: You thought I was talking about Cleveland.
[1:40:35] Speaker 2: I get it.
[1:40:36] Speaker 7: So the real question is, if they did, if you're
[1:40:39] Speaker 7: saying they do be OKC, they do be OKC with
[1:40:42] Speaker 7: DeMar DeRozan and Al Horford.
[1:40:44] Speaker 1: The second year. They don't pick up KD. Do they
[1:40:47] Speaker 1: go beat Cleveland? No.
[1:40:48] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: Oh, man.
[1:40:50] Speaker 1: I believe so.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Nobody cancel out LeBron.
[1:40:54] Speaker 1: It's the same conversation. No, no, no, no.
[1:40:56] Speaker 7: It's literally the same conversation. LeBron came back from 3-1
[1:41:00] Speaker 7: to beat you because you did not have a Kevin Durant.
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to cancel out LeBron. Listen.
[1:41:06] Speaker 1: No, didn't they lose because one thing got kicked out? No.
[1:41:08] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:41:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:41:10] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: It changed the series.
[1:41:12] Speaker 7: So didn't OKC lose because Russell Westbrook was in miscommunication
[1:41:17] Speaker 7: with KD?
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: No, no, no. Oh, that's communication problems. Oh, that's communication problems.
[1:41:23] Speaker 1: We're acting like the Golden State versus Cavs was actually series.
[1:41:31] Speaker 1: When they added Kevin Durant, it wasn't a series anymore.
[1:41:36] Speaker 1: Cavs was getting embarrassed. It was not close games. It wasn't.
[1:41:41] Speaker 1: KD hit the game winners two years in a row.
[1:41:44] Speaker 1: Game winners for a game. The games that matter. The
[1:41:47] Speaker 1: games that matter. The biggest games that matter. KD came out.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: They were already up 3-0. They were up 2. I'm
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: saying KD cancels out LeBron and Steph cancels out Kyrie
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: and everybody else is On the words, meet Cleveland.
[1:42:08] Speaker 4: So if you ain't got nobody that can cancel out LeBron,
[1:42:11] Speaker 4: you don't win.
[1:42:13] Speaker 6: So you're telling me right now, Al Horford and DeMar DeRozan,
[1:42:16] Speaker 6: they added to the team.
[1:42:16] Speaker 2: They got David West to do the same shit as
[1:42:19] Speaker 2: Al Horford. Okay.
[1:42:22] Speaker 1: You know a little bit of hoop. You know a
[1:42:24] Speaker 1: little bit of hoop. You know a little bit of hoop.
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: It's almost like you were there. You know a little
[1:42:29] Speaker 1: bit of hoop. David West can do the same thing
[1:42:31] Speaker 1: as Al Horford? Yes. What? Pick and pop that with
[1:42:34] Speaker 1: his shit. What?
[1:42:36] Speaker 2: Three?
[1:42:37] Speaker 1: You shoot threes?
[1:42:39] Speaker 4: Our girlfriend started shooting threes until he was 40, 37.
[1:42:43] Speaker 1: Okay, game one, they beat him by damn near 22.
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: Game three, beat him by 19. Game one, they beat
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: him by 23. Game one, beat him by 19. The
[1:42:54] Speaker 1: closest game was five.
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: We know the backbreaker threes.
[1:42:59] Speaker 1: Five. We know the backbreaker. No love, no Kyrie.
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
[1:43:05] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, I'm talking about when they got Kevin Durant,
[1:43:07] Speaker 1: it was no series.
[1:43:09] Speaker 2: It was blowouts.
[1:43:09] Speaker 1: 2017.
[1:43:10] Speaker 2: We're talking about 2017.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: You didn't, like, these are blow, these are blow, these is...
[1:43:16] Speaker 1: Built to ass whoopings.
[1:43:18] Speaker 2: So KD didn't come down and hit the threes.
[1:43:19] Speaker 7: Thank you.
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: Those are moments.
[1:43:21] Speaker 7: He didn't come down. He didn't come down to hit
[1:43:24] Speaker 7: the threes. Let's stop.
[1:43:26] Speaker 6: Kevin Durant made a historical moment.
[1:43:29] Speaker 10: No, we're talking about why KD was finals MVP. We're
[1:43:33] Speaker 10: talking about why Kevin Durant was finals MVP.
[1:43:38] Speaker 1: He had moments. He changed the fucking game.
[1:43:41] Speaker 6: When they're up 3-1 and he came down and hit
[1:43:43] Speaker 6: the shot to close him out.
[1:43:44] Speaker 1: Game one, he had 38. I was there game three. Hey, Nick. Nick,
[1:43:49] Speaker 1: the last time. He did the three same time. Two times.
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: You're not, we're not, we're talking, what? You was 2018.
[1:43:54] Speaker 2: I'm not talking about 2018.
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: He hit the same shot in the same pool. I'm
[1:43:58] Speaker 1: talking about 2017, man. So even you talking about that. 3-1.
[1:44:02] Speaker 1: You're up. What happened the last year, the year before
[1:44:05] Speaker 1: this when y'all was up 3-1?
[1:44:07] Speaker 2: There was no Kevin Durant on the run.
[1:44:09] Speaker 1: There was no. But what happened?
[1:44:10] Speaker 7: When you were up 3-1, they came back. So, Kevin Durant,
[1:44:14] Speaker 7: let's make sure they don't do what they did last year.
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: Hit them niggas upside the head and send them home.
[1:44:21] Speaker 1: Give me that moment. Please. Moment. Send them home, KD.
[1:44:24] Speaker 7: Y'all don't have a chance to come back this time.
[1:44:27] Speaker 7: It was over before Kevin Durant.
[1:44:29] Speaker 1: It was over. It was over. Last year before that,
[1:44:32] Speaker 1: it was over. It was 3-1 the year before that.
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: It was over the same time. What was it?
[1:44:37] Speaker 6: They kicked Draymond Green out of the game. You're making
[1:44:39] Speaker 6: shit up now, man. They kicked Draymond Green out of
[1:44:41] Speaker 6: the game.
[1:44:41] Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about? It's the same exact shit.
[1:44:44] Speaker 1: I'm talking about he was overkill for that series in 2017,
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: the first year he got there. When he played against
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: the Cavs in 2017, meaning you're not on the team.
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: Game one, they damn near won by three. They won
[1:45:02] Speaker 1: by 20 something points. Game two, 20 something points, right?
[1:45:05] Speaker 1: Do you think this nigga needs some special shots? They
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: were up 3-1.
[1:45:09] Speaker 2: Thank you. They was up 3-1 a year before, too.
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: Who was? The Golden State Warriors, nigga.
[1:45:15] Speaker 2: What does that got to do.
[1:45:16] Speaker 1: With what I'm talking about? Because they lost 4-3. But
[1:45:18] Speaker 1: what does the fuck does that got to do with
[1:45:20] Speaker 1: what I'm talking about?
[1:45:21] Speaker 7: Because they need a Kevin Durant to make sure they
[1:45:23] Speaker 7: didn't come back to do the same thing that just
[1:45:25] Speaker 7: happened last year.
[1:45:26] Speaker 2: I said they need overkill.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: So they brought in a guy who made sure there
[1:45:30] Speaker 1: was never going to be this again. Overkill. I'm winning
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: by 30 every game. We're not even going to play
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: no games. We're not even going to play no games.
[1:45:40] Speaker 1: It's overkill. If I'm winning by 20 in the finals
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: every game, it's overkill. That's overkill. I don't even want
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: closed games. Right. That's why I went to get the bazooka. Yeah.
[1:45:48] Speaker 2: That's why I went to go get it.
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: I want a guy who's going to score 38, 33, 31, 35, 39.
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: That's what I want.
[1:45:53] Speaker 7: The reason you got this overkill is because you couldn't
[1:45:58] Speaker 7: do that with no.
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: Al Horford and fucking Thank you. That's what I was saying.
[1:46:02] Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to be up there.
[1:46:03] Speaker 1: You know, that's it. You wanted that.
[1:46:06] Speaker 10: I'm about to beat OKC, bro.
[1:46:10] Speaker 2: Why do you keep trying to pretend I'm saying the Cavs?
[1:46:13] Speaker 7: Because that's who we're talking about right now.
[1:46:16] Speaker 1: The Cavs had money to sign a free agent. They
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: could have signed.
[1:46:20] Speaker 7: They didn't need to because they just came back from
[1:46:22] Speaker 7: fucking 3-1 and won. We can take them niggas out.
[1:46:26] Speaker 7: We ain't tripping on them. We don't need to reboot.
[1:46:28] Speaker 7: They do.
[1:46:29] Speaker 2: And they rebooted.
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: So if they and Kevin Durant, that's what we're talking about.
[1:46:33] Speaker 1: Kevin Durant stayed. Nigga, what the fuck is going on
[1:46:36] Speaker 1: with Golden State? They not a fucking problem at all.
[1:46:39] Speaker 1: We take care of them.
[1:46:40] Speaker 7: It's us against Cleveland now in the championship. We not
[1:46:43] Speaker 7: worried about the Warriors. 73-9, y'all blew it.
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: You see, that's why we say it's delusion.
[1:46:50] Speaker 1: You don't think your team is good enough because you
[1:46:53] Speaker 1: can't get a free agent. The only free agent you
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: can sign is your own player back. Golden State can
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: sign a max player or two players that are good players.
[1:47:03] Speaker 1: Cleveland has money also. Dwayne Wade was supposed to sign there,
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: but they had the same thoughts you had. We just
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: won it. We don't need no new players. So Golden
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: State went in and said, all right, y'all not signing nobody.
[1:47:17] Speaker 1: We're going to get Kevin Durant. Who are you going
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: to get now? Dwayne Wade thought he was going there.
[1:47:22] Speaker 1: He didn't go there. And they went and got Dunleavy.
[1:47:25] Speaker 7: Did the Cavs go back to the finals that next year?
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. You want to know what the score was?
[1:47:30] Speaker 2: 4-1.
[1:47:31] Speaker 1: Did it go after that? Yeah, they went back to
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: next year.
[1:47:33] Speaker 7: So two straight years, they went back to the finals.
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: 4-1.
[1:47:35] Speaker 7: With a core team of Kyrie Irving, LeBron James, Kevin Love.
[1:47:40] Speaker 1: Core.
[1:47:41] Speaker 7: The team that they beat, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, and
[1:47:44] Speaker 7: motherfucking Draymond Green.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: Core.
[1:47:48] Speaker 7: You keep their core together. You keep our core together.
[1:47:51] Speaker 7: We're going to do what we did to y'all. Y'all
[1:47:53] Speaker 7: had a magical season, 73-9. We spoiled that shit. You
[1:47:59] Speaker 7: had to add to your core three. We did not,
[1:48:03] Speaker 7: and we still came back to the finals.
[1:48:05] Speaker 1: To where we didn't have to add nothing. So y'all
[1:48:07] Speaker 1: not fucking To where we didn't have to add nothing. Yeah,
[1:48:12] Speaker 1: so y'all not fucking with us.
[1:48:13] Speaker 7: Yes.
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: No we did That's called.
[1:48:29] Speaker 7: No matter who I be, I got them.
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: Good business. So if you want to get back there
[1:48:39] Speaker 1: with the same team, good luck. There's a reason it
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: was 4-1, because you thought your team was that good.
[1:48:46] Speaker 1: And no Kyrie in 2018. And you should have got
[1:48:48] Speaker 1: somebody else, but you didn't. You felt like you was
[1:48:51] Speaker 1: going to do this, and you got your ass barbecued.
[1:48:53] Speaker 1: Hit across the head. Oh, they got Kevin Durant. We good.
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: Knocked out. It was a.
[1:49:01] Speaker 5: It's called good business.
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: You got all this money. Cavs had money to go
[1:49:07] Speaker 1: sign people. I thought we were talking about OKC.
[1:49:10] Speaker 2: No, you keep changing it.
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: We were talking about OKC.
[1:49:13] Speaker 7: You change it to the Cavs.
[1:49:15] Speaker 2: You see, now you're going back. Full circle.
[1:49:21] Speaker 1: We do a full circle.
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: I'm happy they did that.
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: I'm happy. I can play them with the wind. If
[1:49:28] Speaker 1: I could take third world ways to jump over a motherfucker,
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: I'm like the 90s baseball. Right? I'm going to take St.
[1:49:35] Speaker 1: Roy's and hit this ball off the park. Okay?
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: Off the park.
[1:49:38] Speaker 1: Off the park. Off that shit. No, what I'm saying
[1:49:41] Speaker 1: is off, it landed, it went in the water. You
[1:49:45] Speaker 1: remember back then in San Francisco, people brought boats to
[1:49:49] Speaker 1: catch the ball?
[1:49:50] Speaker 2: Yes. Right?
[1:49:52] Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what you call me. I
[1:49:54] Speaker 1: love it.
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: I love it.
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: But he's not making a difference in beating Cleveland.
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't say Cleveland. We're talking about OKC.
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: We're talking about OKC, beating OKC.
[1:50:07] Speaker 2: He started with OKC.
[1:50:08] Speaker 1: We didn't say nothing about Cleveland.
[1:50:09] Speaker 7: But you're going to have to play Cleveland after you
[1:50:11] Speaker 7: beat OKC, right?
[1:50:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: That means no championship for you. Yeah. You need one.
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: I was talking about beating OKC. That means no championship
[1:50:19] Speaker 1: for you.
[1:50:19] Speaker 3: I was saying beating OKC. I didn't say nothing about Cleveland.
[1:50:22] Speaker 3: One last thing we have to discuss before we wrap
[1:50:24] Speaker 3: up for the weekend. Katie also has some interesting comments
[1:50:27] Speaker 3: on personal hygiene.
[1:50:28] Speaker 2: That's my dog. Let's take a listen.
[1:50:30] Speaker 1: That's my dog.
[1:50:33] Speaker 2: I take showers.
[1:50:33] Speaker 13: You get too much money, man. That's what I would say.
[1:50:36] Speaker 13: What you mean? You get too much money, man. You
[1:50:38] Speaker 13: don't care about showering.
[1:50:39] Speaker 1: I shower.
[1:50:40] Speaker 2: I shower.
[1:50:40] Speaker 1: I love showering. But I might go a.
[1:50:43] Speaker 2: Day without two days. I might go two days sometimes
[1:50:45] Speaker 2: without two days. You know what I mean? Hopping in
[1:50:46] Speaker 2: that water, wait till I get.
[1:50:47] Speaker 1: To the gym. No, no, no, no, no, no. Shower pill?
[1:50:49] Speaker 2: Nah, KD, no.
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: I'm not saying I thought workout.
[1:50:51] Speaker 13: I'm not saying I thought workout. Not two days without
[1:50:54] Speaker 13: a shower. If I'm sitting in the house, like, I
[1:50:57] Speaker 13: might just want to go musty for the rest of
[1:50:59] Speaker 13: the day.
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: Wash your ass, man.
[1:51:00] Speaker 2: Wash your ass, man.
[1:51:02] Speaker 3: KD said if he's just sitting in the house not
[1:51:03] Speaker 3: doing shit, he might want to go musty for a
[1:51:05] Speaker 3: few days. Also said he rarely uses lotion except on
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: his hands. Got to feel it from the trenches. What
[1:51:12] Speaker 3: a pretty boy.
[1:51:13] Speaker 1: Where's these Stonewall niggas being built, man? Nah, man. Like,
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I'm sorry. How do y'all not
[1:51:19] Speaker 1: like it? I don't like it. I don't like it.
[1:51:20] Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: Let me love that, bro. Nigga just ashy. All in
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: here just ashy.
[1:51:24] Speaker 2: That nigga sticky. He's sticky. That's what it is.
[1:51:26] Speaker 1: That's sticky. That sweat is sticky. That's nasty.
[1:51:28] Speaker 2: That's what I'm feeling. That's ashy.
[1:51:32] Speaker 1: Gotta be manicured. No, I'm saying like, when you get
[1:51:35] Speaker 1: out of the shower, like, you don't like lotion to
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: make you... I'm a man, bro. Fuck all that.
[1:51:40] Speaker 7: You take a shit. Nigga, you post a shower after
[1:51:42] Speaker 7: you take a shit.
[1:51:43] Speaker 1: I'm a man.
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, shower.
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: If you go to somebody's house and they got baby wipes, run.
[1:51:50] Speaker 1: You better run. Run. Run. The seat is nasty. Put
[1:51:52] Speaker 1: the toilet seat up. I like baby wipes. Baby wipes.
[1:51:54] Speaker 1: Baby wipes. Baby wipes. Baby wipes. Baby wipes. Baby wipes.
[1:51:57] Speaker 1: Baby wipes. Baby wipes. Baby wipes. Baby wipes.
[1:52:17] Speaker 3: Just to make sure you thoroughly cleanse the air. If
[1:52:18] Speaker 3: you're getting your oil changed, you want to thoroughly cleanse
[1:52:20] Speaker 3: the oil.
[1:52:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, baby wipes and if they ain't got water
[1:52:23] Speaker 1: in their house, get out. Oh, you're saying if they
[1:52:25] Speaker 1: don't have baby wipes. Yeah. If they don't have baby
[1:52:26] Speaker 1: wipes and water. Oh, wait. I thought you said if
[1:52:28] Speaker 1: they did have baby wipes.
[1:52:29] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:52:30] Speaker 1: If you don't have baby wipes, you're trash. Yeah, if
[1:52:32] Speaker 1: you don't have baby wipes, you're trash. Oh, okay. I mean,
[1:52:34] Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Yeah, baby wipes and water. I
[1:52:35] Speaker 1: love water. Hey, do this for the camera. I'm a man, bro.
[1:52:39] Speaker 1: I ain't got to want to be pretty like that. No,
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: you got to show your camera. Me and my woman go, oh,
[1:52:43] Speaker 1: you put lotion on?
[1:52:44] Speaker 2: Come on.
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to do a face mask with you.
[1:52:47] Speaker 1: I'll tell you like this. The do-do wipe. It ain't tough.
[1:52:50] Speaker 1: It ain't tough getting a manicure. That's how you learn someday.
[1:52:54] Speaker 1: Get baby wipes. Y'all be like this.
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: Getting a manicure.
[1:52:58] Speaker 1: But do you flush them down the toilet?
[1:52:59] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[1:52:59] Speaker 1: Can you make it clear?
[1:53:00] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:53:01] Speaker 1: Can you make it clear? Clear?
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: Who's doing the clear going?
[1:53:04] Speaker 1: No, we're saying lotion, Nick.
[1:53:07] Speaker 2: No, man.
[1:53:07] Speaker 1: We're saying lotion, Nick. Like this on the phone like this. Nick,
[1:53:10] Speaker 1: how can you get your fingers under that?
[1:53:11] Speaker 2: Motion your hands.
[1:53:13] Speaker 1: And then you got the shit between your toes. Uh-huh.
[1:53:16] Speaker 2: That's etiquette. That's etiquette.
[1:53:18] Speaker 1: Bro, you got hands like a mechanic. You got hands
[1:53:20] Speaker 1: like a mechanic, bro.
[1:53:21] Speaker 2: My man, bro.
[1:53:21] Speaker 1: Not washing your ass. All that man shit that you
[1:53:23] Speaker 1: still shower, bro.
[1:53:33] Speaker 7: You can't be shitting and then sitting around for two days.
[1:53:37] Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the lotion part.
[1:53:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, put the lotion on, man. How you doing, Mr. Jones?
[1:53:43] Speaker 1: You see what I'm doing? You got them Beverly hands, man.
[1:53:49] Speaker 2: I grew up in a different household.
[1:53:50] Speaker 1: We know.
[1:53:51] Speaker 2: Dirty D. I'm a lamb and tammy type.
[1:53:54] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[1:53:55] Speaker 2: You should learn from your daddy, but you want to
[1:53:57] Speaker 2: impress these people. You know my daddy. Brother, He wanted
[1:54:01] Speaker 2: to be a pretty boy.
[1:54:03] Speaker 1: So shower after doodling.
[1:54:04] Speaker 2: Keep doodle wipes at the house.
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: Doodle wipes and water.
[1:54:07] Speaker 2: What's the longest you can go without shower?
[1:54:08] Speaker 1: Shower every day, twice a day.
[1:54:10] Speaker 7: So two showers. Shower twice a day. Wake up, shower
[1:54:14] Speaker 7: before you go to bed.
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: Shower. If you work out in the middle of the day,
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: shower after. After your workout.
[1:54:19] Speaker 2: You can go.
[1:54:20] Speaker 7: To your closet, take shit to go to the gym
[1:54:23] Speaker 7: in your gym bag. That's why it's called a gym bag.
[1:54:25] Speaker 7: Take a shower in the morning. Take a shower after
[1:54:29] Speaker 7: you golf and then take a bath with your girl.
[1:54:31] Speaker 1: What if you have a morning workout?
[1:54:32] Speaker 3: You shower before the morning workout or you just knock
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: the morning workout out, then shower.
[1:54:36] Speaker 1: After the morning workout?
[1:54:37] Speaker 2: All you got to do is shower.
[1:54:38] Speaker 1: I got to use the shower to wake up. So
[1:54:40] Speaker 1: I jump in the shower to wake up, then I
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: go work out, then take a nap.
[1:54:43] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: Why do you think I'm late? I'm late here because
[1:54:46] Speaker 1: I get in the shower at 11.15 for some reason.
[1:54:49] Speaker 1: Do you have a clock in the shower? If you
[1:54:51] Speaker 1: got time to do it, nigga, knock that shit out.
[1:54:53] Speaker 1: Let me clean up. I'm going to clean up. But, dude,
[1:54:56] Speaker 1: when you're in the shower at 11.15, do you have
[1:54:58] Speaker 1: a clock to monitor.
[1:54:59] Speaker 2: Or do you just go all by it? That's too
[1:55:02] Speaker 2: much washing.
[1:55:03] Speaker 10: I ain't washing that many goddamn towels. Y'all still dirty
[1:55:06] Speaker 10: as you use the same towel. First of all, Nick,
[1:55:08] Speaker 10: you got to get fits to shower.
[1:55:10] Speaker 1: I don't got time to be washing that many towels.
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: What are you talking about? How many towels you got?
[1:55:15] Speaker 1: You got fresh towels, nigga. For three towels? A day? Three? Yes.
[1:55:20] Speaker 1: Three different towels. I got two towels. I got two towels.
[1:55:23] Speaker 1: I got two towels. You know the washing machine is?
[1:55:25] Speaker 1: I got two towels. But you not wash. Man, come on.
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: The washing machine take an hour or something to wash.
[1:55:29] Speaker 7: You buy 10 towels at a time, bro.
[1:55:32] Speaker 1: That's why I got them. That's why I got them.
[1:55:33] Speaker 1: It don't matter. They're clean.
[1:55:35] Speaker 7: No, you can actually wash them after you get out
[1:55:38] Speaker 7: the shower.
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: They can put them in the wash. You got to
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: wash your ass, man. You got to wash your ass.
[1:55:43] Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about?
[1:55:45] Speaker 2: We take showers at home. He takes 24-hour fitness showers.
[1:55:49] Speaker 1: Not a bad place to shower. Cut down your water bill.
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: There's only so many baths.
[1:55:53] Speaker 10: I take showers at home.
[1:55:56] Speaker 1: But most of his shower is coming from here. So
[1:55:58] Speaker 1: the showers... They only work for two days. No, that's
[1:56:00] Speaker 1: dirty though. It don't matter if it's thick, thin or what.
[1:56:02] Speaker 1: You clean it off with the same towel, you're dirty.
[1:56:04] Speaker 1: So you're saying now. All that dirt shit is still
[1:56:06] Speaker 1: 24 hours, 50 hours, bro. I ain't never seen a
[1:56:23] Speaker 1: fucking towel that cleans itself. Do you watch between the
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: crack of your ass? It don't matter what color it is.
[1:56:28] Speaker 1: It's black. I can't see it. So you'd rather not
[1:56:30] Speaker 1: take a shower? I can't see it. I'm not taking
[1:56:32] Speaker 1: three showers a day. I don't care if nobody's doing that, bro.
[1:56:34] Speaker 1: Do you watch between.
[1:56:35] Speaker 5: The crack of your ass and everything?
[1:56:37] Speaker 1: No. Why you want to know if I'm washing... I mean,
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: that's clean your ass. What the fuck? You don't wash
[1:56:41] Speaker 1: between the crack of your ass? When you shower, what
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: you supposed to do? Wash your ass, right? Everything. You
[1:56:46] Speaker 1: supposed to.
[1:56:47] Speaker 7: But you said you agreed and said not taking a shower.
[1:56:51] Speaker 1: Not two times a day. No, you said at two days,
[1:56:53] Speaker 1: he don't take a shower. Sometimes you got to power wash.
[1:56:56] Speaker 1: Take it off and put a little power wash. Man, listen, man,
[1:56:58] Speaker 1: you better wipe your ass, man. Wipe your ass.
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: For two days and was like all right if you're
[1:57:03] Speaker 2: not doing nothing do you know how.
[1:57:05] Speaker 1: Many hours there is in a day for you to just.
[1:57:07] Speaker 7: Be like nah i'm cool i smell listen that's not
[1:57:11] Speaker 7: right nuts just a sweltering nigga 104.
[1:57:15] Speaker 4: Degrees after one day you smell that shit no.
[1:57:18] Speaker 1: That's the problem i didn't fart but it's my nuts No, bro,
[1:57:28] Speaker 1: I be gaming.
[1:57:30] Speaker 2: Don't do nothing.
[1:57:30] Speaker 1: Just gaming for four or five hours. and you start smelling,
[1:57:34] Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's called B.O. You know what B.O. means?
[1:57:36] Speaker 1: Y'all don't use women deodorant.
[1:57:39] Speaker 10: If you smell that bad after.
[1:57:43] Speaker 1: Five hours, we cheaters. We cheaters. We know.
[1:57:47] Speaker 2: What the fuck?
[1:57:48] Speaker 1: When we use the cheap, we use the same girl
[1:57:50] Speaker 1: stuff so your girl don't know. Right? Think about it.
[1:57:54] Speaker 1: If your girl wears a material shaker, you wear it
[1:57:56] Speaker 1: so she don't know the difference.
[1:57:57] Speaker 2: You wear the little.
[1:57:58] Speaker 1: Strawberry shampoo and all that stuff so when you go
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: to work, when you go to work, Yeah, where you
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: go to the workout. No, no, no. No, man. You
[1:58:06] Speaker 1: go to the man with the man. I'm telling you.
[1:58:08] Speaker 1: Look at him. Look at him. know.
[1:58:10] Speaker 2: I don't do that.
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: I go to the man house. Man, we got new
[1:58:13] Speaker 1: stuff for us. We got new soaps and all that
[1:58:15] Speaker 1: shit for us.
[1:58:16] Speaker 2: Nah, man, use that secret.
[1:58:18] Speaker 1: When you wear the dove, like, why you say dove?
[1:58:19] Speaker 1: Are we still like that? We got Mando still. I'm
[1:58:27] Speaker 1: an Irish spring, nigga.
[1:58:28] Speaker 2: You Irish spring?
[1:58:29] Speaker 1: The Mando pack has dried up.
[1:58:31] Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: We will try to get Mando back. When you go cheating,
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: you dove. So you can smell like how you left
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: the house. I like the bar of soap. We don't
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: have Mando. We've been forced to go come in. You
[1:58:44] Speaker 1: still use the bar of soap. Old school, nigga.
[1:58:48] Speaker 7: Using a loofah shit overseas on the worst We give
[1:58:54] Speaker 7: you information about all facets not three days three times
[1:58:58] Speaker 7: a day baby white three times a day three different.
[1:59:02] Speaker 1: Wipes and have some water only because if you want
[1:59:04] Speaker 1: my girl really loves me So.
[1:59:06] Speaker 2: The problem is we wake up the shower.
[1:59:08] Speaker 1: I wake up You know we're hooping this out So
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: you get to we get because we work and wake
[1:59:12] Speaker 1: up and shower then we go play then we take
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: that second That's where the three come from.
[1:59:16] Speaker 2: Okay On that note, a very productive.
[1:59:19] Speaker 1: Way to end the week. It's kind of that.
[1:59:23] Speaker 7: No, but it's waking up, though. It's like, I want
[1:59:25] Speaker 7: to be fresh leaving out the house, bro. Fuck the
[1:59:28] Speaker 7: dumb shit.
[1:59:28] Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody in the chat for joining us. Appreciate everybody
[1:59:32] Speaker 3: on this couch.
[1:59:33] Speaker 4: Damn!
[1:59:34] Speaker 1: What happened, Gilbert? I'm sorry. Somebody 600 years in prison.
[1:59:41] Speaker 1: And they didn't shower?
[1:59:42] Speaker 2: No, it just says.
[1:59:45] Speaker 1: No, it says reportedly facing up to 600 years.
[1:59:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard. 600. That's why you're just snitching all day.
[1:59:51] Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why I put a
[1:59:53] Speaker 1: number on it at this point. Nigga, forever. Just in case.
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: Forever.
[1:59:57] Speaker 1: Just in case. Just put life. Just put home confinement.
[2:00:01] Speaker 1: That's why you. That's my home.
[2:00:03] Speaker 2: Infinity.
[2:00:04] Speaker 1: That's how you do it. Then you got infinity years.
[2:00:08] Speaker 1: But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented
[2:00:12] Speaker 1: by Underdog.
[2:00:13] Speaker 7: We'll see y'all next week.
[2:00:15] Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
[2:00:17] Speaker 1: No way.

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