# The Knicks' NBA Championship ELECTRIFIES Gil's Arena

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 17 Dec 2025, 2 h 15 min.

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The New York Knicks' NBA Cup Championship ELECTRIFIES Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the New York Knicks taking down the San Antonio Spurs in the final of the NBA Cup and debate if this midseason ring finally shows that the Knicks are capable of winning the whole thing. Next, they react to the losing side of the game as Victor Wembanyama & The Spurs fell short in their first taste of competitive play and react to Wemby saying he thinks he's the best player in the league before breaking down another record setting performance for Cooper Flagg as the 18 year old phenom became the only teenager to score 40 points in an NBA Game. Next, they break down the current state of the Golden State Warriors as Steph Curry's team is holding on for dear life in the final run of the sharpshooter's career and give their take on the team holding out Jonathan Kuminga for 3 straight DNPs as the standoff between the team and their young superstar seems to finally be headed toward a trade. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to Rich Paul responding to their criticism of his new podcast and give their thoughts on the Los Angeles Clippers vowing to do right by Chris Paul after they decided to send their franchise player home early during his final NBA Season. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... For a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting https://AuraFrames.com to get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Matframes - named #1 by Wirecutter - by using promo code ARENA at checkout. SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvj... Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:52 Knicks Win NBA Cup Championship 0:07:00 Jalen Brunson Proved He's A Championship Player 0:28:47 Can The Knicks Win The Championship? 0:41:40 Breaking Down The Spurs Loss 1:01:26 Cooper Flagg Continues To Make History 1:05:04 The Nasty State Of The Warriors 1:24:50 Melo Responds To His Rivalry With LeBron 2:05:11 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Yeah! Yeah! I'm feeling good. Damn.
[0:11] Speaker 1: And you see our boy Jordan Clarkson left?
[0:16] Speaker 2: What?
[0:17] Speaker 1: I was hoping JC was going crazy.
[0:22] Speaker 2: He was on the corner. He didn't fire me today.
[0:23] Speaker 2: He was on the corner. He was on the corner.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Selling them nickel bags. Selling them nickel bags. Selling them
[0:28] Speaker 2: nickel bags on the corner. You'll see your head-to-toe Knicks gear. Head-to-toe. Head-to-toe.
[0:37] Speaker 2: I ain't no black. I ain't no black. I ain't
[0:39] Speaker 2: no black. It's going to be one of those days.
[0:43] Speaker 2: But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. I'm merely
[0:46] Speaker 2: a host, Josiah Johnson. As always, we've got the NBA
[0:49] Speaker 2: legend and NBA 2K player Gilbert Arenas here with us. Mr. Tenday, Mr. Tenday. Okay,
[0:59] Speaker 2: we got it. I was hoping today. NBA champion of
[1:02] Speaker 2: the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young back here with us. No, no,
[1:06] Speaker 2: that didn't sound too good. The way I feel right now,
[1:09] Speaker 2: my intro got it.
[1:09] Speaker 1: NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young back
[1:13] Speaker 1: in the.
[1:13] Speaker 2: Building with us. $ 10, $ 14, going to $ 13. Represent tough crowd,
[1:19] Speaker 2: card-carrying country club member, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings back here
[1:23] Speaker 2: with us. That's how fire I was on. I was
[1:27] Speaker 2: on fire, man. I'm burning steel, man. Oh, okay. I
[1:30] Speaker 2: was like, is that dirt or the shirt on fire? Yeah,
[1:32] Speaker 2: I was cooking. Mr. 24, that's what you should call me. Mr. 24.
[1:37] Speaker 2: On this side of the couch, we have the distinguished
[1:39] Speaker 2: gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin.
[1:43] Speaker 2: Back to you. What's happening, man? And as you can see,
[1:49] Speaker 2: we have a vacant spot on the couch that would
[1:51] Speaker 2: be filled by the man known as Cemetery Larry. Not
[1:55] Speaker 2: in the arena, currently. Celebrating, perhaps? I don't know. How
[2:02] Speaker 2: it go? All right, well. Yeah. This damn bitch. Uh-uh.
[2:08] Speaker 2: Got a hot pot with him? The man known as
[2:18] Speaker 2: Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion of the world, Rashad McKenzie. That's
[2:24] Speaker 2: bigger than a body bag. He made that. He made
[2:30] Speaker 2: that shit. That nigga put time in that. He made
[2:33] Speaker 2: that for his kids. The casket. The Patrick Ewing. The arguments.
[2:47] Speaker 2: I do it every day. This is going to be
[2:53] Speaker 2: one for the better guy. Here he comes. Hey, it's
[2:57] Speaker 2: in the building. Let's get it. Let's get it. Mr.
[3:02] Speaker 2: Chopped Cheese, baby. What up, Kelly? You all right, dawg?
[3:10] Speaker 2: Been better days. Been better days, bud. We got a
[3:15] Speaker 2: lot of things to discuss. I'm sure it's going to
[3:18] Speaker 2: be an eventful episode, so make sure you buckle up.
[3:20] Speaker 2: But here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today. The Knicks
[3:24] Speaker 2: dominated the Spurs in the fourth quarter to take home
[3:27] Speaker 2: the NBA Cup title. Does New York have enough to
[3:30] Speaker 2: contend for an actual championship? NBA Cup champions of the world.
[3:37] Speaker 2: That's a hard-ass clap. Why you do it again? Your
[3:42] Speaker 2: son don't hit buckets, so you don't know how to
[3:44] Speaker 2: be a parent. You know. Right? You know, right? They're balling.
[3:56] Speaker 2: We heard you. Go, Nick. Moving forward. Cooper Flagg set
[4:01] Speaker 2: the single game scoring record for an 18-year-old by dropping
[4:04] Speaker 2: a 40-piece. Flagg proving he is the face of the NBA. Future. Future.
[4:12] Speaker 2: And the Warriors are off to a 13 and 14
[4:14] Speaker 2: start this season. What do the Doves need to do
[4:16] Speaker 2: to not waste the twilight of Steph's career? Before we
[4:19] Speaker 2: get into all that, as always, this show is brought
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[4:52] Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. So the third installment of
[4:55] Speaker 2: the NBA Cup title game featured the Spurs and Knicks
[4:58] Speaker 2: squaring off for a chance to win $ 500, 000 in prize money.
[5:03] Speaker 2: The Knicks defeated the Magic on Saturday to reach their
[5:05] Speaker 2: first NBA Cup final, while the Spurs held on to
[5:08] Speaker 2: hand the Thunder their second loss of the season with
[5:10] Speaker 2: Wimby putting up 22 points in 21 minutes in his
[5:12] Speaker 2: first game back from a calf strain. The Knicks haven't
[5:16] Speaker 2: experienced an NBA championship since 1973, reaching the finals just
[5:20] Speaker 2: once since then. So before the game, Knicks head coach
[5:24] Speaker 2: Mike Brown was asked about facing Wimby and said, you
[5:27] Speaker 2: go to church the night before and you get on
[5:28] Speaker 2: your knees and you pray to the good Lord and
[5:31] Speaker 2: you ask for help. Well, Brown and the Knicks prayers
[5:34] Speaker 2: were answered with a team effort that's giving New Yorkers
[5:36] Speaker 2: good reason for optimism. Let's take a look at the
[5:38] Speaker 2: highlights tonight. If we can, please. Game was back and
[5:43] Speaker 2: forth in the first quarter with both teams going bucket
[5:45] Speaker 2: for bucket to keep things interesting. Wimby didn't start for
[5:49] Speaker 2: the second straight game, but didn't enter this one midway
[5:51] Speaker 2: through the first frame. Alien was playing with a heavy
[5:53] Speaker 2: heart after finding out his grandmother had passed away earlier
[5:56] Speaker 2: in the day. Finished with 18.6 rebounds in two blocks
[5:59] Speaker 2: in 25 minutes. 12 of those points coming in the
[6:02] Speaker 2: third quarter, including a stretch where he scored 10 straight.
[6:04] Speaker 2: Dylan Harper had a team high 21 off the bench,
[6:06] Speaker 2: while De'Aaron Fox added 16 and nine dimes Define Castro
[6:10] Speaker 2: had 15 points on 5 of 15 shooting. OG Ananobi
[6:14] Speaker 2: led the Knicks with a game-high 27 points on 10
[6:16] Speaker 2: to 17 shooting, including 5 of 10 from distance, along
[6:19] Speaker 2: with 9 boards. Jalen Brunson added 25 and 8 dimes,
[6:22] Speaker 2: going 11 for 27 from the field. Cap finished with
[6:26] Speaker 2: 16 points and 11 boards while dealing with a calf
[6:28] Speaker 2: injury that sidelined him for extended portions of the 3rd
[6:31] Speaker 2: and 4th quarter. Knicks bench was the difference maker in
[6:34] Speaker 2: this one, especially in the 4th quarter. Mitchell Robinson grabbed
[6:37] Speaker 2: 15 rebounds, including 10 on the offensive side in his
[6:39] Speaker 2: 18 minutes of action, creating second-chance scoring opportunities when his
[6:42] Speaker 2: team needed them the most. Knicks out-rebounded the Spurs 59-42
[6:46] Speaker 2: in the game. Jordan Clarkson scored eight of his 15
[6:50] Speaker 2: points in the final frame, going three of seven from deep.
[6:53] Speaker 2: And former second-round pick Tyler Kovic added 14-5-5 on 5-9 shooting.
[6:59] Speaker 3: So Knicks trailed by as much as 11 in the
[7:01] Speaker 3: second half and by five in the fourth quarter, went
[7:03] Speaker 3: on a 15-3 run to start the final frame. taking
[7:06] Speaker 3: control of the game. Oh, you see them doing their thing.
[7:13] Speaker 2: So went on to outscore the Spurs 35-19 in the
[7:18] Speaker 2: quarter to get their sixth straight win, even though this
[7:22] Speaker 2: one does not officially count on their record. It still
[7:26] Speaker 2: counts for them. You see them celebrating the NBA Cup title.
[7:32] Speaker 2: So they've now won 10 of their last 11 games.
[7:36] Speaker 2: and their first NBA championship since 1973, albeit an NBA
[7:40] Speaker 2: Cup championship. So Jalen Brunson was named NBA Cup MVP,
[7:43] Speaker 2: and after the game, the captain took some time to
[7:46] Speaker 2: show some love to his squad. OG Ananobi, Tyler Kolek,
[7:51] Speaker 2: Jordan Clarkson, Mitchell Robinson, they played their ass off tonight. Now,
[7:54] Speaker 2: without them, we don't win this shit. We don't win this.
[8:00] Speaker 2: They played their ass off tonight, so... Yeah. There's some
[8:07] Speaker 2: other things going on during the celebration as well. We
[8:09] Speaker 2: will not get into that. Why not? Yeah, we're going
[8:11] Speaker 2: to talk about it. That's the fuck we are.
[8:14] Speaker 4: We're going to fucking discuss that.
[8:17] Speaker 2: You have some commentary on it as well.
[8:19] Speaker 4: We're going to discuss that. I don't know what you're
[8:21] Speaker 4: talking about, Josiah. We're talking about that. We can talk
[8:25] Speaker 4: about it right now, goddamn it. What part of the
[8:27] Speaker 4: game is that? Congratulations to the Knicks. Play the ass off.
[8:33] Speaker 2: A courtesy oil check. Yeah, it was good. No, that
[8:38] Speaker 2: was a good basketball game, man. It's unfortunate that we
[8:42] Speaker 2: didn't get to see Wim be in this totality with
[8:46] Speaker 2: the mental restrictions and dealing with the off-court things. Condolences
[8:50] Speaker 2: to him and his family, man. Very unfortunate.
[8:57] Speaker 4: I don't know this for sure, like how close him
[8:59] Speaker 4: and his grandmother is or was, but in those kind
[9:03] Speaker 4: of situations, I'm pretty sure she still lives abroad. I
[9:06] Speaker 4: think she's in France. Not to say to keep a
[9:11] Speaker 4: secret from him, but just maybe wait until after the
[9:14] Speaker 4: game to let him get through his work. Because it's
[9:18] Speaker 4: not like he sits at a desk where he's able
[9:21] Speaker 4: to process it differently throughout the day.
[9:24] Speaker 2: So... It's tough. It's a thin line. You know what
[9:29] Speaker 2: I'm saying?
[9:29] Speaker 4: To give that to him and have him go out
[9:31] Speaker 4: and try to play with that on his heart. It's
[9:34] Speaker 4: a tall ask for anyone. But he was able to
[9:37] Speaker 4: manage to get through it as much as he could.
[9:39] Speaker 4: It was a good game, man. It was a really
[9:43] Speaker 4: good game. Both of those teams are going to make
[9:51] Speaker 4: some noise in the rest of the season, I think.
[9:53] Speaker 4: This was a Good growth game for both sides. Just
[9:59] Speaker 4: wishing Wimby had it going in the third, coach could
[10:01] Speaker 4: have left him out there a little longer.
[10:06] Speaker 2: But I get the many restrictions. Yeah. Good game, though.
[10:13] Speaker 2: Good game. So let's shift over to you, Cemetery Larry.
[10:17] Speaker 2: Go ahead. Go over there first. Go ahead. Over to me.
[10:23] Speaker 2: Y'all missed me yesterday. Y'all go ahead. Okay. Well, let's
[10:26] Speaker 2: shift over to this side of the couch. Your biggest
[10:28] Speaker 2: takeaways from the Knicks NBA Cup championship win over the Spurs?
[10:34] Speaker 2: Knicks wanted it more.
[10:35] Speaker 5: I mean, Wimby had his time restriction, but Jordan Clarkson, man,
[10:41] Speaker 5: he came in and, man, gave him a big spark.
[10:43] Speaker 5: I'm going to say that's the reason why they really
[10:45] Speaker 5: did win the game. But other than that, I mean,
[10:48] Speaker 5: they were out-rebounding them for sure.
[10:50] Speaker 2: I think just the Knicks experience.
[10:52] Speaker 5: But it was still good just to see both teams
[10:54] Speaker 5: play on that type of spotlight and that type of level.
[10:56] Speaker 2: So I'm sure the Spurs, you.
[10:59] Speaker 5: Know, they got two big games coming up, so I'm
[11:02] Speaker 5: sure they'll bounce back.
[11:03] Speaker 2: And the Knicks, you know, it was good for them
[11:04] Speaker 2: for their momentum right now. Like you said, down 11
[11:08] Speaker 2: in the second half, down 5 in that fourth quarter.
[11:10] Speaker 2: 15-3 run, Mike Brown opted to leave some of the
[11:13] Speaker 2: bench guys in that game and get them over the top.
[11:17] Speaker 2: That energy.
[11:17] Speaker 6: That's the good coaching. That's that corner. That corner do energy.
[11:22] Speaker 6: Hit a couple shots. Team get that energy. And for me,
[11:27] Speaker 6: I think Wimby for sure was out the game too long.
[11:29] Speaker 6: And when he came back in the game, he turned
[11:31] Speaker 6: back into like the rookie Wimby.
[11:34] Speaker 2: Kept settling for threes.
[11:36] Speaker 6: Not, you know, trying to come back fast instead of,
[11:41] Speaker 6: you know, sticking to the game plan. I think they
[11:43] Speaker 6: left Fox out too long, too. I think Dylan Harper
[11:46] Speaker 6: had it going. But, you know, you still need that
[11:49] Speaker 6: star power out there. Shout out to the Knicks. They're
[11:53] Speaker 6: hanging a banner. Nope. We will talk about it in
[11:56] Speaker 6: a second. They talked about the Lakers. They had the
[11:59] Speaker 6: option to hang a banner, and they opted out. They're
[12:03] Speaker 6: not doing it.
[12:04] Speaker 2: I feel it. When are they going to win? There's
[12:09] Speaker 2: motivation to do it at the end of the season.
[12:10] Speaker 2: That's all. Shit. More motivation. Y'all see with the Knicks rag,
[12:20] Speaker 2: Knicks jacket, Knicks jersey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Knicks shoes. Blued up. Coordinated.
[12:24] Speaker 3: With the orange. Biggest takeaway from the Knicks NBA? The
[12:29] Speaker 3: biggest takeaway is in-season championship. That's what the biggest takeaway.
[12:35] Speaker 2: We won. We? Yeah, we. Fuck is we? We, we. Yeah,
[12:41] Speaker 2: hell yeah. We got that money.
[12:43] Speaker 1: Who?
[12:43] Speaker 2: The Knicks. When? We got the New York Knicks. We
[12:47] Speaker 2: are the Knicks. No, I ain't talking about them. I'm
[12:49] Speaker 2: talking about you. Me. We got the New York Knicks. Yesterday. Oh,
[12:52] Speaker 2: as of yesterday? Yes. We got the New York Knicks.
[12:57] Speaker 2: Before or after the game. The Knickerbockers. I already had
[13:01] Speaker 2: this pre-shake. Come on, man. Come on. Knickerbocker, please. This
[13:05] Speaker 2: isn't overnight. That means I already had it. Being a fan.
[13:08] Speaker 2: Ready to go. What the?
[13:11] Speaker 3: All that shit I was doing last year, you think
[13:13] Speaker 3: I was going to let go of this shit?
[13:15] Speaker 2: No.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Couldn't wait for my boys to get in the championship.
[13:19] Speaker 2: What? Your boy.
[13:21] Speaker 1: The city on fire right now.
[13:24] Speaker 2: Man. The city didn't sleep last night. That's what I
[13:28] Speaker 2: took away. New York is a city that never sleeps.
[13:30] Speaker 2: I know.
[13:30] Speaker 3: Definitely didn't sleep last night.
[13:33] Speaker 2: They tried to put a curfew in, wasn't happening. That
[13:35] Speaker 2: was true. Last but not least, let's shift over to
[13:41] Speaker 2: Cemetery Larry. Casket with the chance. We ready to talk hoop?
[13:49] Speaker 2: Let's talk hoop. Who picked the last two teams? You
[13:54] Speaker 2: just have the Spurs and the Knicks in the championship
[13:58] Speaker 2: of the NBA Cup. I did say the Spurs was
[14:02] Speaker 2: going to beat who? Oklahoma City Thunder. It was 24-1.
[14:06] Speaker 2: 24-1 start, Tyron. NBA record with you. 2015-16. Knicks was
[14:13] Speaker 2: my team what year? Last year? Playing good.
[14:18] Speaker 7: Jordan Clarkson was the guy I said that needed to
[14:24] Speaker 7: play good. It's a lot of shit I've been saying, right?
[14:28] Speaker 7: A lot of shit I've been saying. It's been coming
[14:31] Speaker 7: to fruition. Shashradamus, as you are known.
[14:35] Speaker 2: Some circles. Yeah, it's still Brandon had to move seats. Delusional.
[14:45] Speaker 8: The delusional seat. Nigga be always wrong, ain't he? Delusion,
[14:51] Speaker 8: living in delusion, don't he? Just the delusional seat. I
[14:58] Speaker 8: bought the book. I bought the book.
[15:04] Speaker 2: Revelations. I bought the book.
[15:06] Speaker 7: I've been keeping count. You know what I'm saying? All
[15:08] Speaker 7: the delusional shit I've been saying lately. Let's talk hoop.
[15:14] Speaker 7: The New York Knicks came out to play. A lot
[15:18] Speaker 7: of good energy. OG did exactly what he was supposed
[15:22] Speaker 7: to do. Loved the way that Jordan Clarkson played both
[15:26] Speaker 7: sides of the ball.
[15:28] Speaker 2: He didn't give up. No point. Played hard all throughout
[15:31] Speaker 2: the game. Kolic. Who's the white boy? Is that the
[15:33] Speaker 2: white boy Kolic? Kolic. Tyler Kolic. Hey.
[15:36] Speaker 7: He looked like Drogic out there, giving him a boost
[15:41] Speaker 7: of energy that McBride, unfortunately, was not playing. Without him,
[15:46] Speaker 7: you're looking to see where the defense is going to
[15:48] Speaker 7: come in. Cat showed up, but the real MVP for
[15:51] Speaker 7: me was Mitchell Robinson. Ten offensive boards. He gave great
[15:57] Speaker 7: energy neutralizing Wimby. I mean, we can say Wimby had
[16:02] Speaker 7: situations off the court, but To be very honest, I
[16:05] Speaker 7: think Mr. Robinson accepted the challenge, and I think that
[16:08] Speaker 7: was the main thing he needed to do, was neutralize Wimby,
[16:11] Speaker 7: keep him off the boards, second chance points, and actually
[16:15] Speaker 7: be a defender down there, rim protector. I think he
[16:17] Speaker 7: did all of that. I didn't like the way Jalen
[16:20] Speaker 7: Brunson played. I really loved the way that the Spurs
[16:23] Speaker 7: defended him. Josh Hart, I don't know. I don't know
[16:26] Speaker 7: what's going on with Josh Hart.
[16:29] Speaker 2: We know what's going on. I feel some type of
[16:30] Speaker 2: way about Josh Hart. We know exactly what's going on
[16:35] Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, a little too close for me. Inch
[16:37] Speaker 2: for inch?
[16:38] Speaker 7: Yeah, a little too close for me. Too many inches?
[16:40] Speaker 7: I don't know what's going on over there. Mike Brown
[16:42] Speaker 7: showed up. I like the way Mike coaches. Everything, you know,
[16:47] Speaker 7: down the line for the Knicks, you know. I'm still
[16:50] Speaker 7: in question right now whether I want to keep rooting
[16:52] Speaker 7: for them after what happened last night.
[16:54] Speaker 1: I don't really play that shit. I don't like that.
[16:57] Speaker 1: I don't like that.
[16:58] Speaker 2: It's a good win. I don't like that. But good win.
[17:00] Speaker 2: Good win. I didn't see that. You think it was the... Hey,
[17:03] Speaker 2: so is that Wimby in there? Because that ain't big enough.
[17:07] Speaker 2: I'm trying... Yeah.
[17:09] Speaker 5: It wasn't because Wimby was on, like, minute restriction.
[17:14] Speaker 2: What? That's why. I don't give a fuck. No, no,
[17:19] Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. That was a big part of it, though. No,
[17:22] Speaker 2: I'm saying Wimby being on minute restriction has a lot
[17:25] Speaker 2: to do with why Mitchell was able to do all that. That, too, but...
[17:31] Speaker 2: It affected the outcome of the game. Yes, the outcome
[17:34] Speaker 2: for sure. It affected the outcome of the game. Championship
[17:36] Speaker 2: is championship. That's fine, but take the minute restriction off.
[17:40] Speaker 2: I just want to know who's in the thing. Is
[17:42] Speaker 2: that Wimby? Because it's a little small. They don't want
[17:45] Speaker 2: to admit.
[17:46] Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out who's in there because he
[17:48] Speaker 3: broke that for a dead body.
[17:51] Speaker 2: So is that his Wimby?
[17:52] Speaker 7: They don't want to admit that I'm more delusional than most.
[17:58] Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who's in the box. Because
[18:00] Speaker 2: it was Knicks versus Spurs. Spurs lost.
[18:02] Speaker 1: Hill wants to know. How about you put some water
[18:05] Speaker 1: in the pot? There's some water in the pot.
[18:06] Speaker 2: Is there water in the pot? Yeah, there's water in
[18:08] Speaker 2: the pot. You need to pee a little more. That's
[18:10] Speaker 2: just burning. There is a stench. There's got to be
[18:13] Speaker 2: a stench. Life behind the wall. That's what happens when
[18:15] Speaker 2: you burn. That's what happens when you burn. Life behind
[18:16] Speaker 2: the wall. Yeah, you burn. Life behind the wall. They
[18:20] Speaker 2: want to know why I'm more delusional than most. What
[18:22] Speaker 2: was that again? The big question is who's in the box?
[18:26] Speaker 2: That is the question. It's a big question. We will
[18:31] Speaker 2: ask the chat who they think is in the box.
[18:33] Speaker 2: Don't ask the chat nothing, okay? The chat is not
[18:35] Speaker 2: going to do that. The chat is very supportive right now.
[18:37] Speaker 2: The chat is not going to do that. Oh, yeah.
[18:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely reflected the outcome. But, no, the Knicks,
[18:44] Speaker 4: they did what they had to do. Mitchell Robinson is, yeah,
[18:48] Speaker 4: a very good offensive rebound. I was telling Brandon before
[18:51] Speaker 4: the show, like, some of the things that I just
[18:54] Speaker 4: watched him, how he reacts to, Two offensive rebounding, right?
[19:01] Speaker 4: He makes himself very available and great timing, long arms.
[19:09] Speaker 4: He goes standing directly in front of the rim. Watch
[19:13] Speaker 4: to see where the ball is going to come off
[19:15] Speaker 4: the long arms. Yeah, no, it was a good game, man.
[19:19] Speaker 2: It's going to be tough.
[19:20] Speaker 6: They got, what, a solid straight nine that come off
[19:23] Speaker 6: the bench?
[19:24] Speaker 4: So you say Drogic. I was thinking more of Beno Udrich.
[19:29] Speaker 4: I see, I see, I see. I was thinking Beno.
[19:31] Speaker 4: I seen that, like, his frame was kind of Beno,
[19:34] Speaker 4: but the way he was moving was Drogic. Yeah, I
[19:38] Speaker 4: saw more Beno.
[19:39] Speaker 2: Both of them. What's wrong with my brother? He hurt? Shit,
[19:43] Speaker 2: he a kid playing well.
[19:44] Speaker 6: See, that's that corner shit, boy. It's whoever hot at
[19:48] Speaker 6: the moment.
[19:49] Speaker 4: Y'all want to know who in the box? should be
[19:52] Speaker 4: Josh Hart sticking his thumb in that man's ass. Do
[19:56] Speaker 4: you see that? No, I was too busy celebrating after.
[20:01] Speaker 2: I didn't see it. I was too busy celebrating. Well,
[20:03] Speaker 2: I didn't see it till today. I didn't see it live.
[20:05] Speaker 2: They were on the podium, and Josh Hart appeared to
[20:07] Speaker 2: give Jameis Russell an oil check.
[20:08] Speaker 4: Check that man's oil, man, standing up at the podium.
[20:10] Speaker 4: I'm like, where your mind got to be? You celebrating
[20:12] Speaker 4: for your team, man.
[20:15] Speaker 2: To me, where his mind was.
[20:16] Speaker 4: I know now where your mind is. You showed us
[20:18] Speaker 4: where your mind was. What you mean.
[20:20] Speaker 2: You're buying that? You're buying that with your roommate. It's
[20:23] Speaker 2: your roommate. Oh, he showed it. It's your roommate. They friends. Nah,
[20:28] Speaker 2: it's friends. They friends. They probably take baths together. Yeah,
[20:33] Speaker 2: that's just, yeah. Probably take baths together. Same time. Y'all
[20:38] Speaker 2: ain't celebrating the Knicks how y'all supposed to be celebrating. Oh,
[20:41] Speaker 2: we praised them already, but dude. You made it awkward.
[20:45] Speaker 2: I'm happy for him. My man, George Carson. I picked
[20:48] Speaker 2: the Knicks. You played good. Your name is Nick. My man,
[20:51] Speaker 2: George Carson got a... Oh, no. We... You know?
[20:56] Speaker 3: I just want to know if that's a spur in
[20:59] Speaker 3: the box. I'm just saying, is that a spur? Because
[21:01] Speaker 3: that would be his team too. So is he body
[21:03] Speaker 3: bagging his own team? I'm trying to, I'm confused here.
[21:06] Speaker 1: Did he think we was going to beat Nick?
[21:08] Speaker 2: Don't be confused. Did he not know who played yesterday?
[21:12] Speaker 2: It was both his teams. Don't be confused. Don't be confused.
[21:16] Speaker 4: You killed with me all the niggas in there chopped
[21:19] Speaker 4: up and screwed up.
[21:20] Speaker 3: There's a lot of chopped and screwed niggas up in
[21:22] Speaker 3: there Right more than one person in the cafe. Yeah,
[21:26] Speaker 3: just don't be delusional about who it is. Don't be
[21:30] Speaker 3: It's my job to be delusional. I'm the digger you
[21:33] Speaker 3: discredit for being right all the time. All right, that's
[21:36] Speaker 3: me Who's in the box is irrelevant? Just know when
[21:41] Speaker 3: it's time You will be in the box?
[21:43] Speaker 2: Yo, what is that cookie? I got my jacket in
[21:45] Speaker 2: the box. What is that? Nigga, that's in that box?
[21:47] Speaker 2: You remember? You remember? I guess it's Spurs. Dead meat.
[21:54] Speaker 2: Dead meat. Dead meat. Rolled keg. Everybody, bits and pieces
[21:58] Speaker 2: of everybody in here. Rolled keg. Bits and pieces of
[22:02] Speaker 2: everybody in here. A bowl of oodles of noodles. What
[22:05] Speaker 2: do we got in there? How do you eat the top? Pops.
[22:08] Speaker 2: He's young. He's young. I mean, he plays. Does he
[22:17] Speaker 2: look like he played? He did play for Stanford. Did
[22:20] Speaker 2: he look like he got in a game? I'm just asking.
[22:23] Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.
[22:24] Speaker 3: Does he look like he played college basketball and he
[22:28] Speaker 3: was out there getting buckets? No.
[22:30] Speaker 2: So, no. Even if he was on the team, I
[22:32] Speaker 2: wouldn't know. He played overseas, right? I don't know, Nick.
[22:36] Speaker 2: You said so. I'm sorry. I didn't look.
[22:38] Speaker 3: Back then, because we was in the same. Did you,
[22:41] Speaker 3: the coach, did he play in college with us?
[22:43] Speaker 2: I have no idea. No idea? What were y'all ranked? One?
[22:47] Speaker 2: We were one, two. We didn't look at Stanford. Ms.
[22:50] Speaker 2: Johnson played at Stanford 2005 to 2009. Oh, yeah. Oh,
[22:52] Speaker 2: that was my year. Oh, yeah. That was your year. 2005.
[22:54] Speaker 2: I wouldn't know that. I wouldn't know. 2005. 2005. That's
[22:55] Speaker 2: what I remember. I wasn't watching college basketball.
[23:01] Speaker 4: I watched University of Colorado play during that time.
[23:04] Speaker 2: My little brother was in school. I wasn't watching Colorado.
[23:08] Speaker 2: I was like, this is getting buckets, man. Anyway, back
[23:12] Speaker 2: to the conversation I had. The New York Knicks. Is
[23:14] Speaker 2: that hot dog water?
[23:15] Speaker 3: Winning the third NBA Cup title. That's the life behind
[23:20] Speaker 3: the wall, baby. Life, man.
[23:25] Speaker 2: Prison pizza, ladies and gentlemen. Get a chance. When life
[23:27] Speaker 2: hits you. Y'all just go acknowledge it.
[23:33] Speaker 4: So y'all just ain't gonna acknowledge the fact that this
[23:35] Speaker 4: man checked this man's oil.
[23:39] Speaker 2: Stan, is that the story of the game? Yeah. I
[23:41] Speaker 2: just want to see it. If it ain't nail polish,
[23:44] Speaker 2: it's checking oil. Yeah, they celebrating on the stage, man. No,
[23:47] Speaker 2: let me see. I didn't see that part. They celebrating
[23:50] Speaker 2: on the stage. We're not trying to violate YouTube's.
[23:52] Speaker 4: Listen, they celebrate on the stage. Jalen Brunson is facing
[23:57] Speaker 4: this way, talking, and the man walk up behind him,
[23:59] Speaker 4: and motherfuckers, like, he's standing there celebrating. The man doing, like,
[24:03] Speaker 4: stick his thumb in the.
[24:04] Speaker 2: Man's ass, man. Jalen Brunson turned around and said, not here. Yeah, basically.
[24:08] Speaker 2: Not doing that to Brunson.
[24:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you know, hey, it's where action said
[24:12] Speaker 1: that not here.
[24:13] Speaker 2: Is that his action? Where's all this? We winners bro.
[24:16] Speaker 1: I had to under they might be my Dudes getting
[24:19] Speaker 1: the oil check.
[24:19] Speaker 2: No, I'm not cool with that. Oh, yeah, probably.
[24:34] Speaker 1: I'm more worried about the guy that don't come around
[24:37] Speaker 1: with a girl.
[24:37] Speaker 3: I'm the only one representing up in here like that.
[24:41] Speaker 2: Him too. I'm talking to him too. Hey, y'all won.
[24:44] Speaker 2: Celebrate how you want to celebrate. Congratulations.
[24:49] Speaker 3: If you want to check the oil, check the motherfucking
[24:51] Speaker 3: oil to see if it's still hot.
[24:52] Speaker 2: What's the temperature? Warm. We can go warm. He cooled off.
[24:57] Speaker 2: He cooled off.
[24:58] Speaker 1: I won a championship. Wow.
[24:59] Speaker 2: Bring me the champagne. I don't give a what. You
[25:02] Speaker 2: know what I mean? I don't give a what. We won.
[25:04] Speaker 2: Celebrate how you celebrate. That's exactly what we planned to do.
[25:07] Speaker 2: Celebrate how you celebrate. Who's taking who over there? Who's
[25:14] Speaker 2: taking who over there? Hey, let me put the clip up.
[25:16] Speaker 2: Let me put the clip up. Who's sucking who? It
[25:19] Speaker 2: is over here. Hit him with your favorite line. You
[25:22] Speaker 2: ain't never been the champion. And you don't know to
[25:28] Speaker 2: check the oil. That's what champions do.
[25:30] Speaker 1: That's what champions do. They want to make their championships rise.
[25:33] Speaker 2: If that's what I had to do to.
[25:34] Speaker 1: Be a champion, I'm glad I'm not.
[25:36] Speaker 2: They did it after. I'm glad I'm not.
[25:37] Speaker 9: If that's what it takes a champion to be a champion.
[25:48] Speaker 9: I'm glad I'm on the other.
[25:50] Speaker 2: Side of that one. I wish it was funny. I
[25:54] Speaker 2: wish it was.
[25:55] Speaker 4: There was nothing comical about you sticking your thumb in
[25:58] Speaker 4: another man's.
[25:59] Speaker 2: Ass, man.
[26:00] Speaker 4: Did it go in? No, it didn't go in, right?
[26:05] Speaker 4: But people think it's that funny, fat boy, white boy shit. Like, no,
[26:08] Speaker 4: we don't play those games. But they did.
[26:11] Speaker 2: They did. They did go to Villanova. They do. That's
[26:14] Speaker 2: an issue. That is a Villanova thing. Like, that's an issue.
[26:17] Speaker 2: That's what they do at Villanova. That's what they say.
[26:20] Speaker 2: I guess. Wow. I went to college, too. Four years.
[26:25] Speaker 2: A much different school. I thought it was funny. You
[26:27] Speaker 2: get your ass pre-peeled. What? I thought that shit was funny.
[26:30] Speaker 2: I'm just more worried about the dude who don't ever
[26:32] Speaker 2: show up with a girlfriend. Or have a girl. That's all. Well,
[26:35] Speaker 2: the conversation has veered off. Let's bring it back to
[26:40] Speaker 2: the New York Knickerbockers, NBA Cup, World Champions of the World.
[26:43] Speaker 2: That's even worse. What year was this? That's even worse. 1967-something? 1967.
[26:48] Speaker 2: That's even worse. So let's talk about Jalen Brunson. Brunson
[26:52] Speaker 2: got a lot of help from his squad throughout the
[26:54] Speaker 2: NBA Cup. But the man called the best inch-for-inch offensive
[26:58] Speaker 2: player in the league by Josh Hart. and affectionately nicknamed
[27:01] Speaker 2: Domian Lillard by his teammates for his abnormal-sized head. Domian
[27:05] Speaker 2: Lillard is apparently what they started referring to him as.
[27:08] Speaker 2: Did work in his three NBA Cup playoff games. Brunson
[27:11] Speaker 2: averaged 33 points, seven assists while shooting 55% from the field.
[27:16] Speaker 2: When we look at Jalen Brunson, we talked about it
[27:17] Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday, but what impressed you the most
[27:19] Speaker 2: about Jalen Brunson's game?
[27:22] Speaker 3: He gets it done. I mean, man, he is the
[27:26] Speaker 3: engine of that team. I mean, you know, you've seen
[27:31] Speaker 3: it in Dallas when he was playing aside Luka. You know,
[27:35] Speaker 3: he got $ 100 million, you know, to get to New York. And,
[27:38] Speaker 3: you know, from there he's really showed that he can
[27:41] Speaker 3: carry a.
[27:44] Speaker 2: Team. And, you know, it's all hard.
[27:48] Speaker 3: When you're talking about being that small, You're talking about
[27:51] Speaker 3: six foot, six foot two with shoes.
[27:53] Speaker 2: And you're out there performing the way you do every
[27:56] Speaker 2: single night. And the other team is trying to stop
[27:58] Speaker 2: you every single night.
[27:59] Speaker 3: And you don't have the 42 to 44 inch vertical
[28:03] Speaker 3: or the speed demon attributes, right? That means you are
[28:08] Speaker 3: very crafty and very skilled at what you do, man.
[28:10] Speaker 3: And he's been showing it consistently for the last three,
[28:15] Speaker 3: four years.
[28:16] Speaker 2: And it's amazing. Yeah. That's not. Top eight in scoring.
[28:22] Speaker 2: That's another way of doing it. I need it one way, bro.
[28:26] Speaker 3: Huh?
[28:26] Speaker 2: He just saw it. Done his due diligence. He just
[28:28] Speaker 2: saw it. So now you.
[28:29] Speaker 3: Now you're changing your song, right? Now you're changing your song.
[28:31] Speaker 3: So you ain't seen it either?
[28:33] Speaker 2: He did it like this. Nah, he didn't do it
[28:34] Speaker 2: like this. He did it like this, bro. He tweeted
[28:35] Speaker 2: and said, they called me a 4K. They called me
[28:37] Speaker 2: a 4K. Also said it was A.I. Nah, think about that.
[28:53] Speaker 2: And not our favorite? Nah, that's why he just did that. Nah. Huh? Nah,
[28:57] Speaker 2: he just did that. He looking for some extra shit. Look.
[29:01] Speaker 2: I don't need no extra shit. Thumbs, crumbs, boom. Planes, trains, automobiles.
[29:06] Speaker 2: I've seen this. Name one nigga in the hood that
[29:09] Speaker 2: play that way. That play that way. You always walking
[29:14] Speaker 2: up and down the street playing. Name one nigga in
[29:17] Speaker 2: the hood that play that way. You done pulled me
[29:19] Speaker 2: into this shit? You know what I'm saying? You know
[29:21] Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Fuck, nigga. Fuck, nigga. Oh, shit. You
[29:30] Speaker 2: said you had a gun on him. Nigga. A lot
[29:34] Speaker 2: of cameras. 4K, 8K. Shout out to Amazon Prime. Can
[29:40] Speaker 2: we talk about our Brunson, please? We're talking about him.
[29:43] Speaker 2: We are. The fact that he wasn't... I mean, a
[29:46] Speaker 2: lot of this conversation... Can we talk about the MVP?
[29:49] Speaker 2: MVP got his oil checked. The MVP. And his reaction
[29:51] Speaker 2: to it wasn't... It was too normal. Too normal. Yeah.
[29:59] Speaker 2: It was on the stage. It was too normal. It
[30:02] Speaker 2: was on the stage. I was on the stage. I'm
[30:03] Speaker 2: winning and stuff like that. On the second grandest stage
[30:05] Speaker 2: in the NBA. And I wanted to swing, but you
[30:06] Speaker 2: know what I mean? Right now. Yeah. Right now? Gosh.
[30:10] Speaker 2: They friends, though. No. No. So you and your friends
[30:14] Speaker 2: play that way?
[30:15] Speaker 4: We do like the... I didn't ask you that. So
[30:18] Speaker 4: you and your friends play the oil checking game?
[30:20] Speaker 2: You see this... I ain't never stuck my thumb in.
[30:26] Speaker 2: Looks like two thumbs to me. It's Brunson. It's Brunson.
[30:32] Speaker 2: It looks like two thumbs to me. Yeah, yeah, it's Brunson, though.
[30:34] Speaker 3: We're talking about Brunson right now and his championship. That's
[30:38] Speaker 3: why we already talked about the thumb and ass. You know,
[30:41] Speaker 3: that's what champions do. That's what champions do. That's why
[30:44] Speaker 3: they established it.
[30:46] Speaker 2: That's what champions do. We wouldn't know. We wouldn't know
[30:48] Speaker 2: nothing about that. No NBA Cup champions on this count.
[30:51] Speaker 2: That's what I told you that. All right. All right.
[30:55] Speaker 2: All right. That's what it takes. Josiah didn't know. Can
[30:59] Speaker 2: we focus on. All right. All right. All right. Let's
[31:01] Speaker 2: get back to being serious. We did. But you just
[31:09] Speaker 2: saw it, right? Yeah, that was crazy. So that's the
[31:11] Speaker 2: way you and your friends play? Nah, I ain't did
[31:15] Speaker 2: that one yet. I've not did that one yet. You
[31:18] Speaker 2: put that one.
[31:19] Speaker 1: Let me write this in the book. Let me see
[31:20] Speaker 1: your book, Sean. You want to put that in the book?
[31:23] Speaker 1: You can put it in the back of the book.
[31:24] Speaker 1: Put that in the index, nigga. But in all sincerity,
[31:28] Speaker 1: Jalen Buster, 33 a game. 33 a game.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I already did mine. Y'all forgot? Okay, I'm just...
[31:41] Speaker 2: Come on. Talk about blushing. The host of Nostra. Come on. Damn!
[31:51] Speaker 2: You broke all the motherfucking props, dawg. I ain't done yet.
[31:54] Speaker 2: Did you not think we was going to start it?
[31:56] Speaker 2: That's a Brunson right there. No, I mean, did he
[31:58] Speaker 2: not think, oh, he didn't know I.
[31:59] Speaker 1: Was coming with the dick. He burned half a heart.
[32:01] Speaker 1: He already pre-planned this shit. He didn't know I was
[32:04] Speaker 1: not the nigga to want to talk. I have no
[32:05] Speaker 1: idea what's going on. Can we give props to the
[32:07] Speaker 1: shit you got on?
[32:08] Speaker 2: No. You ain't gave no props to them. You worried
[32:11] Speaker 2: about the wrong shit. No, I'm worried about you broke
[32:14] Speaker 2: your bag.
[32:14] Speaker 1: Do I need to go change? So you can just
[32:16] Speaker 1: go against me? You didn't want, when he asked you
[32:18] Speaker 1: the question the first time, You better come all the
[32:20] Speaker 1: way over here to see what I was going to say.
[32:22] Speaker 2: I'm saying the same shit you want to say. I
[32:24] Speaker 2: don't even know you. Why would I be worried about
[32:28] Speaker 2: what you say?
[32:29] Speaker 1: Brushing good. Whatever you say, I'm going with you. Why
[32:34] Speaker 1: the fuck would I be worried about what you say?
[32:36] Speaker 2: Carolyn, can I get a bowl? I want some of
[32:38] Speaker 2: that goddamn hot dog water. Carolyn. Hot dog water? I
[32:42] Speaker 2: don't need a bowl. Give me a cup. Carolyn. I
[32:44] Speaker 2: want some of the hot dog water too. Hot dog water.
[32:50] Speaker 2: It was 78%, right? 78%. Why would I be worried
[32:54] Speaker 2: about what you never... There is a sector of the
[32:56] Speaker 2: chat known as the 78%. Why would I be worried
[32:59] Speaker 2: about what you're going to say?
[33:00] Speaker 4: You saying what I say are drastically on two different
[33:04] Speaker 4: of the spectrum.
[33:05] Speaker 2: And that's why I'm saying what you're saying. And if
[33:07] Speaker 2: I'm at 78%, guess where you are? 78%. On the
[33:10] Speaker 2: other end. No, 78%. On the other end. Whatever percentage
[33:14] Speaker 2: you want. 78%, man. I'm with you today. Gil is
[33:16] Speaker 2: on the other end of 78%. What's that? Can we
[33:18] Speaker 2: ask the chat if it's obvious? Can we do the
[33:20] Speaker 2: champagne and all that? Can we please ask the chat
[33:22] Speaker 2: if it's obvious? I'm with you today.
[33:24] Speaker 1: Come on, you can't ever be with me today. Then
[33:27] Speaker 1: bump your gun. You got the bag. Is the bag empty? No,
[33:31] Speaker 1: it's just other people in here right now. It's other
[33:33] Speaker 1: shit to address. It's other shit to address. It's some
[33:37] Speaker 1: of those people with the University of North Carolina. Yeah.
[33:43] Speaker 2: He ain't going to be able to use his chops today.
[33:48] Speaker 2: He can't help him on this. Yeah. He can't help
[33:51] Speaker 2: him on this. You want to try some of that?
[33:53] Speaker 2: You want to try some of this? Uh-uh. Let's hear it, Larry.
[33:59] Speaker 2: Y'all niggas is dead. Y'all ain't got your New York
[34:02] Speaker 2: shit on. Yeah. He said, hey, chat, is it obvious?
[34:07] Speaker 2: We were asking the process. Hey, chat, look at him gaslighting.
[34:12] Speaker 1: Hey, this is what a nigga do when he can't win.
[34:15] Speaker 1: This is what the niggas do.
[34:19] Speaker 2: Woo! He got a friend. That's what they do. Y'all
[34:24] Speaker 2: see it?
[34:24] Speaker 1: You got a friend.
[34:25] Speaker 2: Hey, y'all see it? Jack. You got a friend. He
[34:28] Speaker 2: said all day yesterday. We don't know what to say.
[34:30] Speaker 2: Moving around the delusional. We don't know what to say today.
[34:33] Speaker 2: He had his book prepped. Oh, he going to say this.
[34:36] Speaker 2: I'm going to say it. Where's BJ in it? Where's
[34:39] Speaker 2: the delusional in it? Whatever you say, I'm saying. It
[34:42] Speaker 2: is my seat now? It's the delusional. Yeah, I'm going
[34:44] Speaker 2: to be delusional with you. No, you ain't sitting over here.
[34:46] Speaker 2: You sitting in the dead man's seat. I'm waiting for
[34:49] Speaker 2: you to say something.
[34:49] Speaker 4: You sitting in the dead man's seat. You ain't never
[34:51] Speaker 4: changed your seat. That's why you ain't never won. That's
[34:54] Speaker 4: why you haven't never won. You started off saying, let's
[34:57] Speaker 4: talk hoops. I haven't heard you talk hoops yet.
[34:59] Speaker 2: Did you take your meds yet? Right. You took the meds? Right,
[35:01] Speaker 2: he said, let's talk hoops. He got the ice on
[35:03] Speaker 2: his knee? He got the ice. Do he got the
[35:05] Speaker 2: ice on his knee? Let's talk hoops.
[35:06] Speaker 1: He don't know what to say because everybody said the
[35:08] Speaker 1: same thing.
[35:09] Speaker 2: No.
[35:10] Speaker 1: Everybody going for the knee. No, we was talking about
[35:11] Speaker 1: the oil change. We was talking about the oil change.
[35:13] Speaker 1: He really thought somebody was going for the first. We
[35:15] Speaker 1: was talking about the oil change. Because I'm not a
[35:18] Speaker 1: Knicks fan no more because of the orange. Oh.
[35:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. Me? OK.
[35:22] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[35:22] Speaker 2: Me neither. Me neither. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like that.
[35:25] Speaker 2: So it don't matter. Oh, so we're not. So we
[35:28] Speaker 2: all not Knicks fans. I like the game.
[35:30] Speaker 1: I like the game.
[35:32] Speaker 2: What if they change the air filter, Sean? I don't mind.
[35:34] Speaker 1: I like the game.
[35:35] Speaker 2: I don't mind. I like the game.
[35:36] Speaker 4: We don't be talking about what Brunson did, man.
[35:39] Speaker 2: That was great. I like the game. Man, I got
[35:40] Speaker 2: the jersey on. I like the game. I ain't Brunson.
[35:43] Speaker 2: You keep doing your motherfucking thing, man. Hell yeah, brother.
[35:46] Speaker 2: Take that thing. Nope. Yeah. Pop the molly, I'm sweating.
[35:54] Speaker 1: He has so much competition with me.
[35:58] Speaker 2: Y'all can see it. We on the set. It's me
[36:01] Speaker 2: and you versus them. Can y'all see it? It's me
[36:05] Speaker 2: and you versus them. Can y'all see it?
[36:08] Speaker 1: He want to argue with me so bad.
[36:11] Speaker 2: I want some of you today. It's me and you.
[36:14] Speaker 1: We matching.
[36:15] Speaker 2: We matching. It's me and you. I'm sorry. Y'all look
[36:19] Speaker 2: at him.
[36:20] Speaker 4: He got to come and get my energy.
[36:24] Speaker 2: He got to get mine. Do it, Gil. Do it, Gil. Yeah.
[36:27] Speaker 2: Do it, yeah.
[36:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, do it.
[36:29] Speaker 2: Get that Sode Pop on. Do it. Do it again. Yeah. Yeah.
[36:31] Speaker 2: He can't get it. It still ain't did nothing for him.
[36:36] Speaker 2: It still ain't did nothing for him.
[36:40] Speaker 1: It feels weird.
[36:41] Speaker 2: That shit right on point, y'all.
[36:43] Speaker 1: It feels weird.
[36:43] Speaker 2: That shit right on point. That shit feels weird. It
[36:46] Speaker 2: feels weird. He do it. That's all he does. He
[36:48] Speaker 2: don't know what's the truth. It feels weird. Hey, you
[36:51] Speaker 2: don't know.
[36:55] Speaker 1: Put your legs in the box.
[36:57] Speaker 2: In the box. In the box. I'm telling you, just scream.
[37:25] Speaker 2: All you got to do is, ah! That's when you
[37:26] Speaker 2: get mad.
[37:26] Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
[37:30] Speaker 2: That's when you and me. You change.
[37:31] Speaker 1: You're going to make me change.
[37:33] Speaker 2: You're going to make me do some other shit. Man,
[37:41] Speaker 2: come on, man. You know what the energy is.
[37:43] Speaker 1: We know what the energy is, nigga.
[37:45] Speaker 2: We know what the energy is, nigga. So we asked
[37:48] Speaker 2: the chat. We know what the fucking energy is. We
[37:50] Speaker 2: asked the chat, is it obvious? You got to be Clarkson.
[37:54] Speaker 2: We asked the chat, is it obvious? 82% said yes. 82%? 82%.
[38:01] Speaker 1: We went for it.
[38:03] Speaker 2: We went for it.
[38:04] Speaker 1: Never lost.
[38:04] Speaker 2: Never lost.
[38:05] Speaker 1: 48%.
[38:05] Speaker 4: I ain't never lost.
[38:07] Speaker 2: 48%. That's a loss. 82%. 82%. He's going to knock
[38:10] Speaker 2: that over with that cane. I see it happening. He crazy.
[38:14] Speaker 2: I told y'all before we officially began this show, it
[38:17] Speaker 2: was going to be a wild day here in Gil's
[38:18] Speaker 2: Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. 82% is insanity. They
[38:25] Speaker 2: don't even know what is it obvious. Yeah, I do.
[38:28] Speaker 2: They don't even know what it means. They be like, hey, man, check.
[38:32] Speaker 2: You don't know what the fuck this is. You don't
[38:34] Speaker 2: know what the fuck this is.
[38:35] Speaker 6: He's making you talk. He's making you talk to yourself.
[38:37] Speaker 6: He's making you talk to yourself.
[38:40] Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck it means. He's
[38:42] Speaker 2: making you talk to yourself. But the chat know what
[38:44] Speaker 2: it means.
[38:44] Speaker 1: Because they all vote.
[38:48] Speaker 2: Yes, 82%. Rashad.
[38:52] Speaker 4: Why are you doing this to them like this?
[38:53] Speaker 2: This is insane. They're now the 80. This is insane.
[39:01] Speaker 2: The 82 percenters. Come on, man. Let's talk about the
[39:04] Speaker 2: Cooper flag. Not quite yet. I never thought I heard
[39:07] Speaker 2: you say that, Swaggy. But, okay, Knicks. I've not won
[39:10] Speaker 2: an NBA championship since 1973. Prove to have what it
[39:12] Speaker 2: takes to win on a big stage. but not the
[39:18] Speaker 2: biggest stage yet. Is this Knicks squad a legit threat
[39:21] Speaker 2: to win a chip as currently constructed? Legit? Yeah, I
[39:28] Speaker 2: think they could come out the East for sure. Has
[39:30] Speaker 2: anybody ever won both? It's December. I'm about to say,
[39:33] Speaker 2: has anybody ever won both the East season? They have not.
[39:36] Speaker 2: Only been three. The Lakers won the first year. Bucks
[39:38] Speaker 2: won last season. The Knicks are the third team to
[39:41] Speaker 2: win the NBA Cup. I'm not going to overreact. It's
[39:44] Speaker 2: still December. It is December, but... I'm going to say no.
[39:49] Speaker 2: You know Knicks fans. They will overreact after a season
[39:52] Speaker 2: opening win. Definitely. To build on what they did last
[40:00] Speaker 2: year is expected. You got a different coach when you
[40:04] Speaker 2: had success with the previous coach. It didn't look the
[40:08] Speaker 2: way everybody wanted it, but it was still successful. You
[40:12] Speaker 2: bring in a different voice. Same unit, so to speak.
[40:19] Speaker 2: You have Jordan Clarkson, which I think is going to
[40:21] Speaker 2: be helpful. Having a healthy Mitchell Robinson has proven to
[40:25] Speaker 2: be very productive and useful. Yeah, and those guys don't
[40:33] Speaker 2: have to play the heavy load that they did, which
[40:35] Speaker 2: I think would be helpful come late season and playoffs.
[40:39] Speaker 2: But it's December. This helps build confidence winning on this stage,
[40:43] Speaker 2: of course, but Yeah, you want to see how they
[40:47] Speaker 2: continue to grow under Mike Brown.
[40:51] Speaker 4: Once his voice really resonates in that locker room and
[40:55] Speaker 4: they really take on his identity as a coach and
[41:00] Speaker 4: him and Jalen Brunson together, what they can put together
[41:03] Speaker 4: and lead them. Yeah, so we'll see. But like I said,
[41:07] Speaker 4: it is December, so let's not overreact. Sean, you were
[41:12] Speaker 4: a fan of the Knicks. Obviously, some current events.
[41:17] Speaker 2: But still, I feel like you still have a lot
[41:19] Speaker 2: of love for the team, for most of the players
[41:20] Speaker 2: on that squad. They've come a long way. They have
[41:22] Speaker 2: come a long way. Come a long way. Second in
[41:23] Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference right now, 18-7. Obviously, this game did
[41:25] Speaker 2: not count towards their win or loss record. But still
[41:29] Speaker 2: second in the East right now.
[41:30] Speaker 7: Like I said before, they got a lot to build on.
[41:37] Speaker 7: Getting McBride back helped them a lot. Mitchell Robinson catching
[41:41] Speaker 7: his stride a little bit more would help them a lot.
[41:44] Speaker 7: Cat really still ain't really playing the best basketball he
[41:47] Speaker 7: can play yet. And I think that's the big thing.
[41:49] Speaker 7: And then they didn't even really have Mikael Bridges most
[41:51] Speaker 7: of the second half. You really think about that. For
[41:54] Speaker 7: them to come out on top without having full strength
[41:59] Speaker 7: says a lot about them, says a lot about Mike,
[42:02] Speaker 7: says a lot about the New York energy that was
[42:04] Speaker 7: in the building.
[42:05] Speaker 2: There was a lot of that in there.
[42:08] Speaker 7: And to have New York have that energy back in
[42:11] Speaker 7: basketball is a definite– positive for the NBA definitely for the.
[42:18] Speaker 2: The whole state.
[42:20] Speaker 4: But in particular the city so something to build on
[42:25] Speaker 4: it's a proud moment for them I know William Wesley
[42:28] Speaker 4: and Leon Rose are very proud with the job they've
[42:31] Speaker 4: been doing and trying to really paint a picture.
[42:35] Speaker 7: William yeah William I'm going to say Uncle Wes but
[42:40] Speaker 7: you know It's one of those things where the future
[42:48] Speaker 7: is bright and it's a matter of time.
[42:53] Speaker 2: So you like this roster as constructed? Absolutely. A lot
[42:55] Speaker 2: of trade talks going on around the league.
[42:57] Speaker 4: The only person that makes sense for you to get
[42:59] Speaker 4: better is Giannis. So I don't, like, let's call it
[43:02] Speaker 4: what it is. If you can trade for Giannis, it
[43:07] Speaker 4: increases your fucking chances of winning drastically. I feel like
[43:10] Speaker 4: that for a lot of teams, obviously. Yeah, with him,
[43:12] Speaker 4: you add him with a good roster already that's playing. Yeah,
[43:17] Speaker 4: that's the obvious thing. But as constructed, yeah, like I said,
[43:20] Speaker 4: it's December. They're playing well.
[43:21] Speaker 2: They're gelling together. Let's move over to our current only
[43:27] Speaker 2: Knicks fan on the couch. Mm-mm. Shottis said that current
[43:33] Speaker 2: situation with the team. I agree.
[43:36] Speaker 3: I don't like that shit at all. But to your question.
[43:40] Speaker 3: To your question, you know, you got to go with history. Last, what,
[43:45] Speaker 3: four or five years, whoever lost in the Eastern Conference Finals, right,
[43:49] Speaker 3: went to the championship the very next year.
[43:51] Speaker 2: So history says they should be in the championship this year.
[43:55] Speaker 2: You know, they just got to play their part, do
[43:57] Speaker 2: what they do. They should be there, but do they
[43:59] Speaker 2: have enough to win four of those seven games? I
[44:03] Speaker 2: think so. Yeah.
[44:04] Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when you get there, it's still
[44:07] Speaker 3: who are you facing and are you playing championship basketball,
[44:11] Speaker 3: you know, during that time, right? And, you know, they
[44:17] Speaker 3: played against the Spurs team who probably had the most
[44:19] Speaker 3: confidence because they just beat last year's NBA champions to
[44:23] Speaker 3: get here. So, you know, we sat on here yesterday
[44:27] Speaker 3: talking about is that a rival for that same team
[44:31] Speaker 3: to lose to the Knicks?
[44:32] Speaker 2: So, you know.
[44:34] Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the Knicks is happy with their performance,
[44:36] Speaker 3: and that's going to carry them on.
[44:39] Speaker 5: It's up to them now. Mr. B, Brandon James, former
[44:42] Speaker 5: New York Knick. I don't think they have enough to
[44:45] Speaker 5: win it. I just feel like once it comes down
[44:47] Speaker 5: to it, I feel like Cat's going to come up missing.
[44:51] Speaker 5: And we've seen that throughout the years and things like that.
[44:54] Speaker 5: And I still feel like if you put a bigger
[44:55] Speaker 5: guard on Brunson towards the end of the year and
[44:58] Speaker 5: you start trapping him– you'll have different results. But they
[45:01] Speaker 5: do have a good team. I do like Mike Brown,
[45:03] Speaker 5: but I just don't think that they have enough with Cat.
[45:06] Speaker 2: Well, I think they got enough to win it for sure.
[45:09] Speaker 6: I think their players, their corners are a little better
[45:13] Speaker 6: than from last night, a little better than OKC corners.
[45:17] Speaker 2: You think the Knicks have better corner dudes?
[45:20] Speaker 6: They got guys that could change the game better than OKC. And,
[45:27] Speaker 6: you know, Mike Brown did something that last coach didn't
[45:29] Speaker 6: do so far, you know. In-season tournament, they ain't going
[45:34] Speaker 6: to hang a banner, but shit, they won. You know,
[45:36] Speaker 6: they celebrated last night. I like that New York fans
[45:40] Speaker 6: really come out, too. Like, it's a college feel. Like,
[45:43] Speaker 6: they all come out and support. I know last night
[45:45] Speaker 6: in Vegas was crazy. That thumb was only the beginning.
[45:50] Speaker 2: Hey. It went further. That's my boy. You think the
[45:53] Speaker 2: Knicks bench is better than OKC bench? I said, you
[45:56] Speaker 2: think the Knicks bench is better than OKC bench? What'd
[45:59] Speaker 2: you say? Nothing. He said it out loud. Did he
[46:02] Speaker 2: say it out loud? Anything can happen when you party naked.
[46:08] Speaker 2: That's insane. Did he try out the... I think overall.
[46:11] Speaker 2: There's a lot of things going on right now.
[46:13] Speaker 3: It's a New York thing. It's a New York thing.
[46:16] Speaker 3: It's a New York thing. Let's talk about the banner situation. So, Lakers,
[46:19] Speaker 3: Bucs both won NBA Cup.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Both hung banners.
[46:21] Speaker 5: I don't think the Knicks bench is better than OKC's bench.
[46:25] Speaker 2: If the Knicks had a recent championship, they would hang it. Yeah.
[46:30] Speaker 2: That's to my point. Having won a championship, I believe, what, 53?
[46:33] Speaker 2: Three years, 52 years, since 1973. Other two teams, Lakers
[46:37] Speaker 2: and Bucks, both opted to hang. NBA Cup championship banners,
[46:40] Speaker 2: Lakers obviously won their first.
[46:41] Speaker 4: They won one in this fucking century. Said they have
[46:45] Speaker 4: more than they're looking for.
[46:48] Speaker 2: They won one in this century, so. You guys respect
[46:51] Speaker 2: the Knicks for not acknowledging the NBA Cup, but it
[46:54] Speaker 2: goes to with the league trying to make the excitement
[46:55] Speaker 2: and the allure of this event happen. And then basically saying, yeah, we...
[46:59] Speaker 2: I mean, the exciting thing is the bonus. Yeah. That's
[47:02] Speaker 2: the thing.
[47:03] Speaker 1: $ 530, 000.
[47:03] Speaker 2: That's what they're playing for. The game, the bonus. Like,
[47:05] Speaker 2: we get that. Playing for the money. And the court.
[47:08] Speaker 2: So that's $ 530, 000 after taxes or before? Surely Uncle Sam
[47:11] Speaker 2: will come in and take a nice big bite out
[47:13] Speaker 2: of that $ 530, 000. And how much more do the MVP get?
[47:16] Speaker 2: $ 270, 000 taken home. Extra shit on his contract when he re-ups. So, Gia, was...
[47:20] Speaker 2: Y'all know, I'm not 100% sure it is, but I
[47:21] Speaker 2: think I....
[47:28] Speaker 4: Mike Brown, as a coach, when he was an assistant
[47:31] Speaker 4: and a few spots that he's had been a head coach,
[47:34] Speaker 4: what was his life? Is he an offensive coach, defensive coach?
[47:39] Speaker 4: I was under the impression he was a defensive mind.
[47:42] Speaker 2: It kind of shifted with the Kings. I think they
[47:45] Speaker 2: had the top offense in the league. He was with Cleveland. Yeah.
[47:49] Speaker 1: He was with— He was with Cleveland.
[47:53] Speaker 2: See where that got him. That's funny. And you see
[47:56] Speaker 2: where that got him. Fire. Motherfucker, fire. He was with Cleveland.
[48:00] Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part, it was running gun.
[48:01] Speaker 2: That Kobe team.
[48:03] Speaker 3: It was running gun. I mean, defense too, but I mean.
[48:12] Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think we're talking with the Warriors.
[48:14] Speaker 3: I think I think he's.
[48:16] Speaker 2: A hybrid of both. He's a he's an officer.
[48:19] Speaker 4: So I'm trying to think like just I think it's
[48:21] Speaker 4: always been if you think about it.
[48:23] Speaker 2: None of them teams. He was coaching play defense. Nah,
[48:26] Speaker 2: the Lakers that team did not play defense. Why he
[48:28] Speaker 2: got fired. I know but the Warriors like warrior minute
[48:32] Speaker 2: the Warriors.
[48:32] Speaker 6: I say right that I say that you did you
[48:35] Speaker 6: got it, right? You feel me growing growing.
[48:38] Speaker 4: So what I'm getting at is in the playoff series,
[48:42] Speaker 4: will he be able to make the adjustments defensively when
[48:47] Speaker 4: series get tough and things are not going? That's what
[48:51] Speaker 4: I'm getting at with that. I just got to know
[48:55] Speaker 4: what his thing is. Who runs the defense?
[48:59] Speaker 3: Let's be honest. If they are falling behind on defense
[49:05] Speaker 3: because of Mike Brown, something should be wrong with them.
[49:09] Speaker 2: Okay.
[49:09] Speaker 3: Because they've been under a strict defensive coach, so they
[49:12] Speaker 3: already know the principles and the logics of defense.
[49:16] Speaker 2: They don't need Mike Brown to call plays. They've done
[49:18] Speaker 2: this four years. a while.
[49:20] Speaker 3: You don't need a defensive coach to tell you how
[49:23] Speaker 3: to clog shit up and do this and do that. So,
[49:25] Speaker 3: you know, if they're falling apart on defense, it's because
[49:28] Speaker 3: they just don't want to anymore.
[49:29] Speaker 2: I got you. That's how I look at it. Accountability
[49:32] Speaker 2: type of thing. That's what I was going to say.
[49:33] Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say.
[49:36] Speaker 7: You really think about if you was listening to the huddles,
[49:39] Speaker 7: He was basically just telling them, listen, one position at
[49:41] Speaker 7: a time. Let's make our runs. Let's stop their runs.
[49:45] Speaker 7: Let's move the ball.
[49:47] Speaker 1: But I think when you look at who they got
[49:49] Speaker 1: on their team defensively, OG plays defense.
[49:53] Speaker 7: Bridges plays defense. Mitchell and Hart play defense. You look
[49:58] Speaker 7: at Brunson where... He don't play as much defense, but
[50:02] Speaker 7: he still can keep his body in front of you.
[50:04] Speaker 7: He'll let you go, but think about who he letting
[50:06] Speaker 7: you go to. Pat and Mitchell, right?
[50:09] Speaker 2: He'll liability because his height.
[50:10] Speaker 1: But so was McBride. McBride the same, but McBride actually
[50:14] Speaker 1: plays defense.
[50:15] Speaker 2: Where did he go to school at? In Villanova. McBride.
[50:18] Speaker 2: Where did he go? He went to Cincinnati? West Virginia. Oh,
[50:21] Speaker 2: West Virginia. Yeah, he got the dog.
[50:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[50:26] Speaker 4: So Brunson knows where to be. But he's from Cincinnati.
[50:29] Speaker 4: And how to do it. But he's conservative. He's conservative energy.
[50:33] Speaker 2: For sure.
[50:34] Speaker 1: That's what he more thinks about now. I don't want
[50:36] Speaker 1: to go out here going. You want to go play
[50:37] Speaker 1: for him.
[50:38] Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. I like that. Born in 2000.
[50:40] Speaker 2: He plays everybody. Yeah. Yeah, he plays people like that.
[50:47] Speaker 6: I don't think we would have never seen the former
[50:52] Speaker 6: last year with the other coach.
[50:54] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Colick? Yeah, we would have never seen him.
[50:57] Speaker 7: But Shaman, if you think about it, if Shaman not hurt,
[51:00] Speaker 7: you probably wouldn't see him either.
[51:04] Speaker 2: Tyler Colick from Rhode Island.
[51:05] Speaker 4: And they're doing it, I'm going to say he's left-handed,
[51:07] Speaker 4: so the guys on the bench get used to playing
[51:10] Speaker 4: with the left-handed guard that's dominant left. So it's... It's
[51:14] Speaker 4: those things that you got to look at with, I'm saying,
[51:16] Speaker 4: why he's on the floor at times.
[51:17] Speaker 2: He's hitting shots. He's playing. He's confident. He's confident. He
[51:22] Speaker 2: played well. You know what I'm saying? I like that.
[51:24] Speaker 1: But you think about the teams, though. I like to talk.
[51:27] Speaker 4: If we talk, those two teams made the NBA for
[51:32] Speaker 4: a brief moment something to watch.
[51:35] Speaker 2: What?
[51:35] Speaker 1: Last night was something to watch. It wasn't no blowout.
[51:38] Speaker 1: They both played hard. They got up and down.
[51:40] Speaker 4: And what I loved is how Vassell Harper and Castle
[51:45] Speaker 4: took the challenge of guarding Brunson.
[51:47] Speaker 2: They made it tough on him all night. Castle was
[51:50] Speaker 2: the kid that was in Portland. Champagne.
[51:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, he was playing good, too. And they kept trying
[51:56] Speaker 4: to target him. But he was trying to switch him
[51:58] Speaker 4: off like.
[51:59] Speaker 2: I got him. He had a big body. Yeah. He
[52:01] Speaker 2: did a good job.
[52:01] Speaker 1: He did a great job. I was surprised about that. Yeah,
[52:04] Speaker 1: he did a good job. He didn't hit no fucking shots.
[52:06] Speaker 1: He hit a couple early.
[52:08] Speaker 2: Not late, though. He hit a couple early. But he
[52:09] Speaker 2: got up there for defense, probably. I was disappointed. Harrison
[52:11] Speaker 2: was on the guard, Brunson. Because they should have played
[52:13] Speaker 2: one kid out, I think. Sohan? Yeah. I don't think
[52:18] Speaker 2: he might be hurt. Yeah, but if he's out there,
[52:20] Speaker 2: he's a dude, like, because he play hard, he defend.
[52:22] Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes got to step up. No.
[52:25] Speaker 6: They were saying Harrison Barnes could guard Bronson. You see
[52:28] Speaker 6: what happened last night. Every time he.
[52:31] Speaker 2: Was in front of me. I said a younger Bronson.
[52:33] Speaker 2: I said a younger Harrison Barnes. I said a younger
[52:35] Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes. That's style 6'7. And who did they put
[52:38] Speaker 2: that 6-7 on him? Champagny? That's all you got to do.
[52:40] Speaker 2: I'm telling you. That's why I said the nigga. I mean,
[52:44] Speaker 2: he went 11 for 27, right? That's good defense. That's
[52:47] Speaker 2: good defense. For a guy who's going to put a
[52:49] Speaker 2: bigger guard on him. That's good defense. 27 times.
[52:52] Speaker 3: Right, you gave yourself a chance to win. If the
[52:54] Speaker 3: best player goes 11 for 27, you gave yourself.
[52:56] Speaker 2: A chance to win. And you look at what you're
[52:57] Speaker 2: giving up. You're giving up. You're giving up the 11
[52:59] Speaker 2: for 27. You're giving up OG, who's... Dropped a 28.
[53:05] Speaker 4: 28 ball where you're not thinking, where is he getting
[53:08] Speaker 4: all his points?
[53:09] Speaker 2: Five and ten from three. Dirk talked about helping win
[53:11] Speaker 2: a shooting before the game. As a star, do that.
[53:16] Speaker 2: Mess with your confidence.
[53:17] Speaker 6: Because Harper was playing well, I feel like they took
[53:20] Speaker 6: Fox out the game.
[53:22] Speaker 2: It's going to be like that all year, I feel like.
[53:24] Speaker 2: I think they're confused on what they want to do. Yeah,
[53:26] Speaker 2: I feel bad for Fox. He getting a tail end.
[53:28] Speaker 2: My bad, Will. He getting....
[53:31] Speaker 3: No, I think they think they're better than what they are.
[53:35] Speaker 3: Because they think they have four guards that are very
[53:40] Speaker 3: high level, which they do.
[53:42] Speaker 2: But two are still young. Right? So you're sacrificing. It
[53:48] Speaker 2: all depends on what your goal is.
[53:49] Speaker 3: Because I know at some point, if you think Harper
[53:52] Speaker 3: is your future, you're going to have to sacrifice minutes
[53:54] Speaker 3: for him to get him. There's no point of waiting
[53:57] Speaker 3: for two years or three years. You got to give
[53:59] Speaker 3: him time now. But if you look at even last game,
[54:03] Speaker 3: they didn't shoot very well as a team. I think
[54:06] Speaker 3: they shot, what, 41% in the semi-game, and then they
[54:10] Speaker 3: shot 41% last night.
[54:12] Speaker 2: So it's not like their.
[54:13] Speaker 3: Offense is clicking as they would think. They're holding people
[54:18] Speaker 3: because they got Wimby back there, but they do need
[54:20] Speaker 3: to figure out their offense aside because they didn't play
[54:24] Speaker 3: offense very well these last two games.
[54:25] Speaker 2: Who's playing well? This is why.
[54:28] Speaker 7: The question of what you're doing right now. I'm going
[54:30] Speaker 7: to answer it for you from my perspective. From watching
[54:33] Speaker 7: them from the beginning of the season, who's playing well
[54:35] Speaker 7: that's outsourcing Fox is Vassell. Vassell and Castle on the
[54:41] Speaker 7: court at the same time.
[54:42] Speaker 2: Castle, my favorite player.
[54:43] Speaker 7: Allows them to play big guard with Castle being the facilitator.
[54:48] Speaker 7: He had eight assists in the first quarter. So you
[54:51] Speaker 7: look at that, Vassell shooting the ball, lights out. So
[54:54] Speaker 7: you bring Champagne in, you got three guards. Now, you
[54:59] Speaker 7: look at Fox, when we talked about when Wimby went down,
[55:02] Speaker 7: his turnovers went up, but Castle's assists went up because
[55:07] Speaker 7: we got a guy that's going to score. So if
[55:10] Speaker 7: we're not going to get defense out of you, Fox,
[55:13] Speaker 7: Dylan Harper, step up to the plate. Now, what we've
[55:16] Speaker 7: seen last night, Dylan Harper, he had, what, four threes?
[55:18] Speaker 7: I think he had four threes. Those threes are all
[55:21] Speaker 7: under duress.
[55:22] Speaker 4: All those threes are pressure threes, and he's showing resilience
[55:25] Speaker 4: to play defense on, like he's really playing defense.
[55:28] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, but you don't take Fox. Five
[55:31] Speaker 2: for seven from three.
[55:32] Speaker 6: Why you like, everybody discredit Fox once Harper get going.
[55:37] Speaker 6: Like Fox still had, what, 16 to nine or something
[55:40] Speaker 6: like that?
[55:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:41] Speaker 6: On limited shots, thinking, not trying to attack when he
[55:45] Speaker 6: want to attack, you know, was holding back a lot.
[55:48] Speaker 2: I feel like he had open... We're in the spots
[55:51] Speaker 2: where he could have attacked the lane, but he stopped and.
[55:54] Speaker 4: We're in the ultimate team dynamic right now where we
[55:57] Speaker 4: don't need you to take it upon yourself to prove
[56:00] Speaker 4: that you can do anything.
[56:01] Speaker 6: But one guy's friend free freely, which is who Harper.
[56:05] Speaker 6: He could make what's his mistake. I'm playing with nothing
[56:09] Speaker 6: just out there shooting.
[56:11] Speaker 2: I like how that was your position to when you
[56:13] Speaker 2: came in the game. Let me do me.
[56:18] Speaker 4: When Fox is in the game, you have to do
[56:21] Speaker 4: you while you're in the game because when this young
[56:23] Speaker 4: nigga come in, he might outshine you.
[56:26] Speaker 2: Based on what we need at the time. It shouldn't
[56:29] Speaker 2: be confidence because he's a vet. He's an all-star.
[56:32] Speaker 7: This is not the dynamic at the Kings. This is
[56:35] Speaker 7: a championship organization that we are willing to accept your
[56:41] Speaker 7: application as being the guy we need you to be.
[56:43] Speaker 7: Not trying to come in here and change the dynamic
[56:45] Speaker 7: of what we've been doing.
[56:46] Speaker 2: But still, you got to be you at some point. Like,
[56:49] Speaker 2: he's still at it.
[56:50] Speaker 1: Remember, we said early in the season, he's still trying
[56:52] Speaker 1: to figure out what this group is exactly.
[56:55] Speaker 2: Right? And remember, what did Wimby say? Ethical. A lot
[57:00] Speaker 2: of ethical basketball. So when they got De'Aaron Fox, they didn't.
[57:04] Speaker 2: Think they're going to be Harper? Yeah, they didn't know
[57:06] Speaker 2: you'd be the second pick to be able to draft
[57:08] Speaker 2: De'Aaron Harper. So now he's the best available on the board. Yep,
[57:12] Speaker 2: there you go.
[57:13] Speaker 4: So now you have to take him. Now the conversation
[57:18] Speaker 4: becomes with De'Aaron Fox. Like, hey, we got the second
[57:21] Speaker 4: pick in the draft. Y'all just so happen to play
[57:23] Speaker 4: the same position. We got to find minutes for him.
[57:26] Speaker 4: We got the rookie of the year that can probably
[57:28] Speaker 4: play off the ball at times, but he's good with
[57:31] Speaker 4: the ball.
[57:31] Speaker 2: In his hands.
[57:32] Speaker 4: So now those conversations with Darren Fox gets a little
[57:36] Speaker 4: tougher if they're having those. But because you got two
[57:41] Speaker 4: really good young guys with the ball, you've made a
[57:43] Speaker 4: name for yourself, Darren Fox, but you got these two
[57:46] Speaker 4: up-and-coming guys who we picked high.
[57:49] Speaker 2: When did they extend Fox? After they got Harper? This year.
[57:54] Speaker 2: This summer. Oh, after Harper. And remember, they had CP
[57:58] Speaker 2: on the team last year because he got hurt.
[58:00] Speaker 6: Yeah, like, why extend him when, I don't know.
[58:04] Speaker 2: They didn't know they was going to get Harper. But
[58:06] Speaker 2: they extended him after they got Harper.
[58:07] Speaker 3: You remember I said when they extended him, I said
[58:11] Speaker 3: Harper can get pushed. When? He can get pushed further
[58:14] Speaker 3: in the draft because the teams that have that, they
[58:17] Speaker 3: already have guards.
[58:19] Speaker 2: Those guys have guards.
[58:21] Speaker 6: I was saying they should have gotten rid of the
[58:25] Speaker 6: defense early.
[58:26] Speaker 4: See, that's the stuff. Yeah, my bad. The draft happened.
[58:29] Speaker 4: They picked Harper and then extended.
[58:31] Speaker 2: Him in August. That's what I'm saying. What? What you mean?
[58:33] Speaker 2: Because we don't know what Harper... We don't know what
[58:37] Speaker 2: Harper brings to the table. No, we don't. First of all,
[58:39] Speaker 2: he did one year in college. He did one year
[58:41] Speaker 2: in college.
[58:47] Speaker 4: And he's a rookie and has not played one game.
[58:50] Speaker 4: We have De'Aaron Fox who is going to be healthy
[58:54] Speaker 4: this season. He didn't play all season. We picked up
[58:56] Speaker 4: CP3 to take over his spot while he's down.
[59:01] Speaker 1: So now, CP gone.
[59:03] Speaker 2: He's healthy.
[59:05] Speaker 4: We have to extend him because what happens if Harper
[59:08] Speaker 4: don't come out and do what he's doing now?
[59:11] Speaker 2: I think Devin is out. Devin Harper? Devin, yeah. That's
[59:16] Speaker 2: a low number, though.
[59:18] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, once you extended him, and then
[59:21] Speaker 3: you got Harper. Remember, Harper's big. Harper's 6'6. You can
[59:25] Speaker 3: put him at the 3. Right now, you got 6'3. 6'4, 6'6,
[59:29] Speaker 3: at your one, two, and three.
[59:30] Speaker 2: Right? That's the guard play you're playing now with Harper
[59:32] Speaker 2: coming off the bench. Castle 6'7. Huh? Castle 6'7. Yeah,
[59:35] Speaker 2: with his shoes on. So now Harper's the same.
[59:37] Speaker 3: So now you got Harper and Castle at the two,
[59:41] Speaker 3: three with Fox.
[59:44] Speaker 2: That seems like that's more their future, but.
[59:47] Speaker 4: But Castle is more of a facilitator than De'Aaron Fox.
[59:51] Speaker 2: Yes.
[59:51] Speaker 4: So you want him at the one. But you need
[59:54] Speaker 4: a Vassell. You need a Vassell who's going to hit.
[59:58] Speaker 2: Shots, defend. My real point guard might be, I think
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: the real point guard is Dylan Harper. And I think
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: the real point guard is like, everybody say, get rid
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: of Fox. Like, you don't want to hear that. I
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: know you didn't say that.
[1:00:12] Speaker 6: This motherfucker said that to my left. I know, but
[1:00:16] Speaker 6: he meant it.
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: Once I saw Dylan Harper play it, I said, yo,
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: Fox is gone in a year or two.
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: So you don't want to hear that shit as somebody
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: that's got a... Good problem for the Spurs to have.
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm about to say. Think about
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: the organization.
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: Think about the organization that actually keeps pieces like this.
[1:00:36] Speaker 4: Despite what y'all saying.
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: Despite.
[1:00:39] Speaker 4: Despite saying, all right, we need to get rid of
[1:00:41] Speaker 4: one of y'all. Let's just say, nah, let's fucking keep
[1:00:43] Speaker 4: this fucking core together. Dylan, you come off the bench,
[1:00:46] Speaker 4: you're going to do your thing. Maybe we start you sometimes.
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: Fox, you come off.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: If you can all accept your role, remember, who accepted
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: their role in the Spurs back in the day?
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: That's back in the day. Why did he do that?
[1:00:59] Speaker 4: Because it's the team, the sake of the team. This
[1:01:02] Speaker 4: is what Pop feels like it should be starting. Bruce
[1:01:04] Speaker 4: Bowen should start. Such and such should start. So, all right. So,
[1:01:10] Speaker 4: three minutes after. Three minutes into the first quarter. Get
[1:01:14] Speaker 4: your ass out, Bruce. Manu, come in here. Finish the first.
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: One shot. Hey, listen. We don't need that much defense,
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: my nigga. You can just relax. Too much money today.
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: Too much money to be paid.
[1:01:24] Speaker 4: If Fox want to buy into championship basketball, I think
[1:01:26] Speaker 4: he should stay put.
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: He need to buy into it. All right, well. A
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: lot more to discuss. We'll keep monitoring the Spurs this season,
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: see what they end up doing. But very, very good
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: start for San Antonio to begin this season. Whoa. We're
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: talking about the Knicks, man. They won the championship. What's
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: wrong with you? Yeah, we've moved on. Thumbs up. In
[1:01:47] Speaker 2: the sky. In the sky. In the sky. That was
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[1:03:08] Speaker 2: Let's keep it in Texas, talk about another team, a
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: player doing some big things over there. Mavs are still
[1:03:13] Speaker 2: a hot pack of buns so far this season, but
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg continues to impress in his rookie campaign. Monday
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: against the Jazz, Flagg added some history to his resume.
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: Let's take a look at that. Flagg dropped a new
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: career high, finishing with 42 points, seven rebounds, six assists
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: in the overtime loss, going 13-27 from the field, 15
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: for 20. from the line. Now the first and only
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: 18-year-old with a 40-point game in NBA history, surpassing LeBron's
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: previous record of 37 back in 2003. Flagg also just
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: the third teenager in NBA history to drop 45-5 in
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: a game, joining KD and LeBron. Now has the third
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: most points scored by a player before turning 19, trailing
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: only Kobe and LeBron. Flagg, has up to two more
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: games before celebrating his 19th birthday. Trails Kobe by 60
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: points for second place. In his last seven games, been
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: extremely impressive, averaging 26 points, six rebounds, four assists, shooting 55%
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: from the field. Very big in this fourth quarter, even
[1:04:21] Speaker 2: though the Mavs were unable to get the win, did
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: not have Anthony Davis in the game, but did have
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg. America is back, baby. America? White America? America
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: is back. You need 60 points to do what? To
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: pass Kobe for second place in points for an 18-year-old.
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: Total points. Total points for that. Kobe had a whole season.
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: But Kobe did have significantly more games than Cooper Flagg.
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: So he needs only 60 points? Only 60 points and
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: two more games. We're not going to do that. 60
[1:04:51] Speaker 2: points behind Kobe. We can't do that. Total points for
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: an 18-year-old. thing. Kobe, I think, drafted at 17, right?
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: He came off the bench, though. It don't matter. It's
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: a thing. He had it. It's a record. Oh, yeah.
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: That's the way y'all worried me. What's the name that's
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: going to let him get that? Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd's
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: going to make it. He's going to try it. For sure.
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: There's two games? Yeah. How'd I word it? What was
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: incorrect about the wording? When is his birthday? This Sunday. Oh, Sunday.
[1:05:19] Speaker 2: So that's what it is. Two games against 60? 21st.
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: You need 60 for it? 60.
[1:05:22] Speaker 1: Oh.
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: He ain't got it. As a basketball coach. 30 in
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: two games? As a coach, you're going to try. You're
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: going to try. 30 in two games? If you play
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: both of those games. Put a shot on it. You will.
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: Put a shot on it. I'll put a shot on it.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: Put a shot on it. I don't drink no more.
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: Me neither, but. Shit changed around here. New York has
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: changed a lot. Around here. Motherfucking water. As you should have.
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: My hot dog water. The way you been. That hot
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: dog water shit. You see it calmed us both down?
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: What's in it? Medicinal? Nah, it's the noodles, man. That
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: shit tickle y'all little belly, huh? Tickle your little belly, huh? Tickle, tickle!
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: Hot dog water! Ha ha! All of a fucking sudden,
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: hot dog water's funny. You motherfuckers killed me.
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: No, he drunked it. He said it calmed both of
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: y'all down. Yeah, I'm sure it did. Calm as hell
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: in that goddamn box. You can't see shit but darkness.
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: You better be calm before you have a heart attack.
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: But back to Cooper Flagg. You guys surprised to see
[1:06:29] Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg turn in the corner offensively so quickly? Nope.
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: Not at all. In this NBA? 18 years old. No,
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: fuck that. In this NBA? When there's no resistance. Shit, no.
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: He's good. And he's good skilled offensively. He got a motor.
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: First and foremost, he's skilled offensively. I didn't know he
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: was that skilled. I'm not lying. Yeah, no. I didn't
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: know that. I thought he just had a motor and
[1:06:50] Speaker 2: he could, like, I saw him before.
[1:06:52] Speaker 4: Listen, before he went to Duke. Hey, before he went
[1:06:54] Speaker 4: to Duke, I saw him. I'm like, oh, yeah, he
[1:06:55] Speaker 4: got it. He going to be it.
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: That's why he tried it, though. The main event. Yeah,
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: but then. Yeah, no. So with a motor, skill. And. Yeah.
[1:07:08] Speaker 4: You're going to have those games when it's wide open
[1:07:10] Speaker 4: the way it is with that skill set.
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And the lack of in-season defense that's being played. Yeah.
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: We talked previously about Jason Kidd starting a flag out
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: of the season, a point guard, but using it to
[1:07:24] Speaker 2: help get him through some of these growing pains, flag
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: it at a minute he didn't necessarily like doing it.
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: Because that ain't the way you're helping. That ain't at all.
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: That ain't the way you're helping. This is how you're
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: helping right here. Put him in his goddamn position that
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: he didn't play basketball. What position is that? Small four. Oh,
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: not the point guard? Not the point guard. Somebody said that. Yeah,
[1:07:42] Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody said that. Yeah, I can't remember.
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: That shit was a mistake. Yeah, I said it. That
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: was a mistake. Yep, I liked it. Yeah, dumbass.
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: I liked the form at 18.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: What the fuck? You know, our team suck. I mean,
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: Kyrie down. Why not? Put him at the wall. I
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: get what you're saying. Small four, though. So big. I
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.
[1:08:02] Speaker 4: Why not after how many games they didn't play? So
[1:08:06] Speaker 4: 25 games. Why not after 25 games experiment with that?
[1:08:09] Speaker 4: Not the first. You think let them get comfortable. I
[1:08:12] Speaker 4: agree with experiment with the position with them because of
[1:08:15] Speaker 4: his skill set.
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:08:17] Speaker 4: But not right out the gate. Let him get his
[1:08:19] Speaker 4: feet wet with some games first and then put this
[1:08:21] Speaker 4: on his plate.
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: Because our point guard went down, right? It ain't his fault.
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: Our point guard went down and then Anthony Davis stopped playing, right?
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: Guess what? The old saying is don't make my problems
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: your problem. It ain't no problem. Don't make your problem
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: my problem. Don't do that. Don't make yours mine. I know,
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, the coach, he
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: going to take the fall for this. He's 18 years old.
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's helped. Look at
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: the way he's playing now. I'm happy he didn't go
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: the other way, though, right? That didn't help. I mean, no.
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: How does it not help, though? Because it's helping everybody
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: else out. Because you ain't.
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: I can read defenses at the one position, where at
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: the end of the day, people at my size are
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: playing the one now.
[1:09:05] Speaker 2: There's no more Chris Balls. I just told you all that.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: So the point guards are 6'6.
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with the experimental part of it.
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:09:17] Speaker 4: The timing of the experimental thing is the issue, right?
[1:09:21] Speaker 2: We suck. No. But you don't know that.
[1:09:24] Speaker 4: We ain't play no games yet.
[1:09:27] Speaker 2: No Kyrie Irving, none of our players. We have nothing.
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: We ain't play no games yet. I mean, what's the difference?
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: It's a big difference. We put D-Lo at the one.
[1:09:34] Speaker 2: What's the difference? We're the same thing. We're 10 to 17.
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: What difference does it make?
[1:09:38] Speaker 2: But admittedly, it comes out as fucking with his mental.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: It's fucking with him. Out of his mouth. Why would
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: you do that? Out of his own mouth. Out of
[1:09:45] Speaker 2: his mouth. How?
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: He said it.
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: He said it. It's fucking with his mental.
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: I don't want the responsibility of playing point guard. I've
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: never done this before, man. It shocked me.
[1:09:55] Speaker 2: It's his words. That's what I'm saying. So he doesn't
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: like a challenge then? No.
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: So you're missing a point. No, I'm asking, but you
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: don't like a challenge. A top five point guard is
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: telling you, I'm going to take this fall for this.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: Just go play the one and let's see what it is.
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: I didn't be honest. And look what it's doing. They
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: ain't going to talk shit about you.
[1:10:12] Speaker 2: That's fine. They talk shit about Jesus. They talk shit
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: about anybody. They talk shit about Jesus. They did talk
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: shit about anybody.
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: They go always talk shit when it's a challenge and
[1:10:20] Speaker 1: it's something different.
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: It did not hurt him. It did not hurt him.
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: Only people that was talking shit was the people on
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: the couch that don't like him. That's it.
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: That's it.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: Nobody was talking shit. Nobody cared about him playing the one.
[1:10:33] Speaker 1: Nobody cared.
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: The only people that was complaining, you and this motherfucker
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: was talking about, because he's 18. Why is he 18?
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: Why is he 18? Because he's 18. That's his excuse.
[1:10:41] Speaker 2: Fuck that.
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: And that AP showed when he was the point guard.
[1:10:45] Speaker 2: And I'm not with you. Hey, Nick.
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: I'm not with you on this.
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: But I'm saying they did that after the fourth game
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: when he only had two against the defending champs.
[1:10:53] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: That's when they did that when he only had two.
[1:10:55] Speaker 3: Because every game after that, he was falling before.
[1:10:57] Speaker 2: But I'm not with you, motherfucker. I'm with them. I'm
[1:10:59] Speaker 2: with them. What position? I'm with them. What position was Cooper?
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: Because if you take out just the one game he
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: had bad this whole season, he averaged 17.
[1:11:10] Speaker 4: And then the next eight games at small forward, he
[1:11:13] Speaker 4: averaged 17. But we're not going to say that because.
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: I'm not with you. He finally got Ricky. I'm with you.
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: He has 42 points. I'm with him. He has 42 points.
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: I'm with the experimental part of it. I'm cool with it.
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: But let him get four or five games and put
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: this in his pocket.
[1:11:29] Speaker 2: That's all. Didn't he have 37 points?
[1:11:30] Speaker 4: Because he come out there, motherfucker, with a different response.
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: And he trying to find his own shit right away
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: like that. That's all I'm saying.
[1:11:37] Speaker 4: The number one pick, I'm expected to play well. And
[1:11:40] Speaker 4: then you put this on me, and I'm like, oh, shit.
[1:11:42] Speaker 4: I'm out there with fucking Clayton Thompson. He had 35
[1:11:44] Speaker 4: on the Clippers. He had 35 points against the Clippers.
[1:11:50] Speaker 4: Playing the three.
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: Then he had 42 points. The three. So when he
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: plays the three.
[1:11:58] Speaker 4: No, when he had two points, he was playing the point.
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: He ain't had two points since he's been playing. He
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: ain't had nowhere close to that. Oh, okay. True position.
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: Give us some smoke, nigga. No, don't get no smoke. No,
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: I want some smoke. No, no, no. Give us some smoke.
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: 18-6 in his first game. 22-4-4 against the Raptors in
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: the second game. Turn it off. Turn it off. That's
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: why you don't let kids play. I don't know. Play
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: the one. The one. I don't know how to do it.
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: I'll go with the one. 18 the first game, 22-4-4
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: against the Raptors that second game. This was why he
[1:12:31] Speaker 3: was playing in the primary point. Then had that two-point
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: game against the Thunder, which is the Thunder. What I'm saying,
[1:12:37] Speaker 3: his words. I'm just saying he had two double-doubles in
[1:12:39] Speaker 3: his first five games.
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: And since then, he's only had one. But don't say that.
[1:12:43] Speaker 2: But I'm going with him. Okay. So he had two
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: double-doubles first five games. He said it out of his
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: own mouth. I know, I know. I'm just saying. How
[1:12:50] Speaker 2: you going to tell him what he said? No, I
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: know what he's saying. I'm with you. I said, I
[1:12:54] Speaker 2: know what he's saying, but I'm saying the stats. 35
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: and 42.
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: I know mentally he felt it's uncomfortable, but statistically how
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: he was playing as a point guard, If you take
[1:13:11] Speaker 3: away the one bad game that he had out of
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: all the games, he's doing the same thing. Now he's
[1:13:16] Speaker 3: just getting comfortable. But all they're doing now is saying,
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: you're not the point. They're just giving him the ball
[1:13:20] Speaker 3: at half court, and he's coming down doing the same
[1:13:22] Speaker 3: thing he was doing before. Like I said, it's don't.
[1:13:25] Speaker 3: He's going to be bringing the ball.
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: That's the problem. He doesn't.
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: He brings the ball up anyway. That's exactly what I said.
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said. That's exactly what I said.
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: He's confidence up. And then let him do his thing.
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: That's all he's saying right now. That's all he is saying.
[1:13:42] Speaker 2: The whole time. He can do it now. His confidence
[1:13:44] Speaker 2: is high now.
[1:13:45] Speaker 6: Don't start somebody off in something they don't know what
[1:13:47] Speaker 6: the fuck they're doing for the first time, first game.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: So you don't think they were doing that in training camp?
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: You just think so you don't think they were doing
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: that in training camp or practice at all.
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: It didn't work. It didn't work in training camp.
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: So one game, so the first game of the season, yo, bro,
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: you're going to start. They didn't practice that at all
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: or nothing?
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: No, they did. They let them do it in the summer. Okay.
[1:14:07] Speaker 1: So what's the issue then if we already bring it
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: to your attention?
[1:14:11] Speaker 4: Because guess what, Brandon? Because he said, I don't like it. Brandon,
[1:14:13] Speaker 4: when you walk in the practice facility, when you do this,
[1:14:16] Speaker 4: what you smell?
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: Nothing. In a practice facility? No. No popcorn. When you
[1:14:22] Speaker 2: walk in an arena, popcorn popping. That smelled of kernels.
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: Popcorn popping. Real hoopers. Popcorn popping. The light's a little brighter.
[1:14:33] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. For him, it's a mental game.
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. It's a mental game.
[1:14:38] Speaker 3: Playing the five averaging 20, 28, and 12. Complaining that
[1:14:42] Speaker 3: he don't want to play it because it's uncomfortable for him.
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: And then he goes to the four, 28 and 10. Oh,
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: this is better. Yeah, it's that shit. It's that. It's
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: just that. It's that.
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: But what's the difference between that?
[1:14:55] Speaker 2: The difference is two different positions.
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: It's two different positions. The five and the four is
[1:15:00] Speaker 4: two different positions.
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: That's why A.D. was complaining.
[1:15:03] Speaker 4: I don't want to play this fucking position. I don't
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: want to play this position because I average more here.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: I can do more. I can do more.
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: I'm going to break you. I'm trying to break you
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: to some depth. Are you going to break your number
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: one pick?
[1:15:15] Speaker 2: Jason Kidd did say the motivation behind playing Cooper Flag,
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: a point guard, would help him later on in the season.
[1:15:21] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Give the ball. He said that
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: after he started playing here. He said this is weird.
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: This is weird, man. That's all very good. We did
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: this because... Nigga, shut up. No, he said he wanted to.
[1:15:38] Speaker 4: He said that shit after I started saying, Jason Kidd,
[1:15:41] Speaker 4: this is some bullshit.
[1:15:43] Speaker 2: Niggas heard all of the shit I was saying. This
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: is some bullshit. Jason Kidd ain't listen to you. Jason Kidd,
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: hopefully a subscriber of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Hey, listen.
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: That hate ain't nothing but congratulations from me. I love it.
[1:15:59] Speaker 2: I'm trending, my nigga. Everybody's listening to Gil's Arena. Oh, okay, yeah,
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: Gills Arena. Oh, okay, yeah.
[1:16:06] Speaker 4: But yeah, but J. Kidd is smart, man. He knows
[1:16:08] Speaker 4: how to get the best out of players. But yeah,
[1:16:12] Speaker 4: like I said, just for Cooper's flag mental to hear
[1:16:16] Speaker 4: the term point guard is what he was.
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: Saying, right?
[1:16:21] Speaker 4: If he was just, listen, we're going to put the
[1:16:23] Speaker 4: ball in your hand without telling him, listen, you're going
[1:16:25] Speaker 4: to play point guard. And this one will put the
[1:16:27] Speaker 4: ball in your hand and go play basketball.
[1:16:29] Speaker 2: Let me shake your hand, man. I'm glad it ain't nothing.
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: Let me shake your hand. We've had a breakthrough here
[1:16:34] Speaker 2: and there. A breakthrough. Yeah, finally. Finally. Finally. He's a gringo.
[1:16:37] Speaker 2: He's a gringo. That's what we said a long time ago.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: We said he's a gringo. You don't know.
[1:16:49] Speaker 3: Take away the notion of playing point guard. I said
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: point guard, the word point.
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: Guard is what's messing him up.
[1:16:58] Speaker 3: If you just do what he's doing, the same thing
[1:17:00] Speaker 3: he did when he was the point guard.
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: Just give him the ball and go. Right now he's playing.
[1:17:04] Speaker 2: You know what the problem was?
[1:17:07] Speaker 3: These two were so anti him being 18 that they
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: didn't realize in the first five games.
[1:17:13] Speaker 2: But also, Matt, because he don't know. Yeah.
[1:17:15] Speaker 3: In the first five games, he had two double-doubles. But
[1:17:19] Speaker 3: because we said 18, y'all just said, fuck Cooper Flagg.
[1:17:23] Speaker 3: Since then, he only has had one double-double. But you're
[1:17:28] Speaker 3: happy for his performance. So the 22, 4, and 6.
[1:17:32] Speaker 2: I fucked that. Soon as he had to, niggas is parading.
[1:17:35] Speaker 3: They're celebrating that he had to.
[1:17:38] Speaker 2: Since then. How you look at the chat? How you
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: look at the chat? Since that game. Since that game.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: Since that game.
[1:17:45] Speaker 3: Since the two-point game where they was in this motherfucker celebrating,
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: bashing him.
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: We haven't heard no bashing of Cooper Black since.
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: If he ain't 10 years old, he doing it. If
[1:17:56] Speaker 2: he ain't 10 years old. Playing good, playing bad. Thank you.
[1:18:01] Speaker 2: We did not bash him.
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: I've never bashed him. When he scored 18, we said,
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: he's 18 doing this.
[1:18:06] Speaker 2: We was cool. When he was batting, we were saying
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: he's 18. That's how you become delusional. I just watched
[1:18:10] Speaker 2: Running Man. I just watched Running Man. Oh, you said this.
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: You said it. Bro, bro, bro. This is not the
[1:18:19] Speaker 2: time for that. Come on, man. I agree with you.
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: Come on, man. I agree with you.
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: We were not bashing him. You said we were bashing him.
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: Wait for the Chris Paul.
[1:18:26] Speaker 10: We were not bashing him. Wait for the Chris Paul, bro.
[1:18:28] Speaker 10: I know that's where it's from. We were not bashing him.
[1:18:30] Speaker 10: You got to wait a little longer.
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: Just like you read something that put 18 in him,
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: the nigga damn near jumped out the window again. Did
[1:18:35] Speaker 2: he not?
[1:18:44] Speaker 3: Soon as he hear 18, all logic goes out of
[1:18:47] Speaker 3: the window because you don't like the idea of him
[1:18:49] Speaker 3: being 18. 18 just like he jumped out the window before.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: You! Read it again. Read it again. Read it again.
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: What would you like me to read again? Just read.
[1:18:58] Speaker 2: It's the man. I forgot he just had surgery. Man,
[1:19:01] Speaker 2: this shit crazy. What about 18? Read it.
[1:19:04] Speaker 3: Just read the passage you said. What did Cooper Flagg do?
[1:19:06] Speaker 3: How many points did he need at 18?
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: He needs 60 more points. He's currently Kobe for second
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: most points by an 18-year-old in NBA history. He needs
[1:19:13] Speaker 2: 61 more to surpass him. And what did he do?
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: Damien jumped out the window. I did that. Why are
[1:19:19] Speaker 2: you doing that? I did it. I know. I know
[1:19:22] Speaker 2: what you did. Whatever you said, I did it. You
[1:19:24] Speaker 2: can move on. Man. I lost. Y'all are trying to force. No, no, no.
[1:19:28] Speaker 2: We lost.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: You're trying to force arguments.
[1:19:30] Speaker 2: It's obvious. Can I say it for the first? Is
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: it obvious? Is it obvious? Hey. Hey, hey. Hey, give
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: me my thing. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. It's obvious.
[1:19:42] Speaker 2: You feel it now. Do you feel it? Now you know.
[1:19:45] Speaker 2: You're wrong. No, motherfucker. You're wrong. I'm like this.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: Damn! You're wrong, nigga. Don't be feeling this so tight.
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: You'll be like, man, is it obvious?
[1:19:53] Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and put this shit in before
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: I even say anything to anybody. I like the is
[1:19:56] Speaker 2: it obvious t-shirt. You're wrong, man. You're wrong, man.
[1:20:03] Speaker 1: You're wrong, man.
[1:20:05] Speaker 2: I've been a big supporter of the is it obvious
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: movement from its inception. But Mr. B, question for you.
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: So Cooper Flagg has about a year to pass you
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: to become the youngest to score 50 plus points in
[1:20:18] Speaker 2: the NBA game. Oh, you are the youngest. Are you
[1:20:20] Speaker 2: worried at all about Cooper Flagg coming for your record? No,
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Cooper Flagg. That made you
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: feel good. Would you make him a video passing the torch? Wait, wait,
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: what is the record? Is rookie or youngest? Youngest. Youngest, 55.
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: And rookie too, right? I think 20 years, 52 days.
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: It's been 20 years? I think you were a... Damn.
[1:20:46] Speaker 2: 20 years old, 52 days from Namaste. But it was
[1:20:50] Speaker 2: a rookie thing, too, right? Yeah, Brandon did drop 55.
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: All right, let me. Yeah.
[1:20:54] Speaker 5: No, I'm a Cooper Flag fan. Man, I remember meeting
[1:20:56] Speaker 5: Cooper Flag first time at Steph Curry's camp. And he
[1:20:59] Speaker 5: was just dominating the whole camp. So, man, I've always
[1:21:02] Speaker 5: been a fan of him since he was younger. And,
[1:21:05] Speaker 5: you know, I'm hoping the best one.
[1:21:06] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what? This is.
[1:21:09] Speaker 5: I mean, when the last time we had somebody come
[1:21:10] Speaker 5: into the league at 18 and play, so.
[1:21:14] Speaker 5: The way it's going and the way the league is today,
[1:21:16] Speaker 5: he definitely has a chance to do it.
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: If he does it, hats out to him. The chat
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: shares your support for Cooper Flagg. We asked the chat,
[1:21:24] Speaker 2: will Cooper Flagg break Mr. B's record? 60% of the
[1:21:28] Speaker 2: chat says that. Okay, so he has two records. But
[1:21:31] Speaker 2: he got to do it in three quarters. No, wait,
[1:21:33] Speaker 2: it's two records. He called me talking crazy. I told
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: you I'm the best. But you got to get 55.
[1:21:38] Speaker 2: I told you I'm the best in L.A. So he
[1:21:41] Speaker 2: has two. So it's a two-thing record, though. At 55
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: as a rookie, I think the youngest.
[1:21:45] Speaker 3: 55 as a rookie and the youngest at 55.
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: So you ain't getting beat. And I did it in
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: three quarters, though. They don't matter. I know, but I'm
[1:21:53] Speaker 2: just saying. I mean, it matters to me. That matters.
[1:21:56] Speaker 2: That matters. Do it in three. You could have had 81.
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: You could have had six. Mr. B, your seventh game
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: in the National Basketball League. So he has a full...
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: About a year. Yeah, he got a full year.
[1:22:11] Speaker 3: Full year just to beat the youngest, but for a rookie,
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: he has to beat it this year.
[1:22:16] Speaker 2: He would have to score 56 points this season to
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: pass the rookie record.
[1:22:20] Speaker 4: So if he does it this year, he gets him
[1:22:22] Speaker 4: on both.
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: No, but his birthday is when? Birthday Sunday. But he'd
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: be 19. He'd just be 19. I know. I was 19. No,
[1:22:30] Speaker 2: I was 20.
[1:22:31] Speaker 3: I believe you were 20, 52 days. Yeah, that's for
[1:22:35] Speaker 3: the youngest. But he has to, like for him to
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: beat both of them, he has to do it this year.
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: For him to beat at least the age one, he
[1:22:42] Speaker 3: has to do it, he has all the way until
[1:22:44] Speaker 3: next year.
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: Well, speaking of scoring. KBJ?
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there.
[1:22:49] Speaker 2: You know? Can't get me out. Yeah. Speaking of high-scoring
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: output on a mid-team, Warriors have left much to be
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: desired this season after a 13-14 start, currently sitting at
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: eighth in the West. Chef Curry has been cooking his
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: return to action after missing five games, the left quad
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: contusion and muscle strain. So in his first game back,
[1:23:09] Speaker 2: Steph put up 39-5-5 in a loss at home to
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: the Wolves, who were playing without Ant-Man. Continued his bucket-getting
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: spree Sunday on the road against the Blazers. Let's take
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: a look at the highlights if we can. Rio, thank you.
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: We're getting in my shot. Steph delivered his second high
[1:23:23] Speaker 2: scoring output of the season finish with 48 points, going
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: 12 for 19 from deep. Steph's 45th 40-point game since
[1:23:31] Speaker 2: turning 30, moving him ahead of MJ for the most
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: in NBA history. It was his NBA record fifth career game,
[1:23:38] Speaker 2: making 12 plus threes. No, that sounds great. He looked spectacular,
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough to lead the Warriors to a win.
[1:23:48] Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. Wait, he didn't beat the Blazers? Wasting
[1:23:53] Speaker 2: this man's mojo. He has not beaten the Blazers. In fact,
[1:23:55] Speaker 2: the Warriors have lost all three of their games against
[1:23:57] Speaker 2: the Blazers. This season? This season. And four of their
[1:24:01] Speaker 2: last six games total. Wasting this man's years. Let's talk
[1:24:10] Speaker 2: about the positives of Wardell, Steph, and Curry. Good to
[1:24:14] Speaker 2: see Steph still balling at a high level at 36
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: years old. Not worried about his team just yet. We
[1:24:19] Speaker 2: will get more into that, but Steph. That's normal now. Yeah,
[1:24:24] Speaker 2: I'm about to say that. It'll be 37 in March.
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: It's been normal, I mean. Only for them three. That
[1:24:30] Speaker 2: shit ain't normal to do that. I mean, they're the
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: ones that's making it normal, so. Yeah, Bron, him, KD.
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: That's it. That's all. That's it. That's a lot. I mean,
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: that's the company. Like, how many players in your era, like,
[1:24:42] Speaker 2: when you came out? Dirk, when he won. Dirk, when
[1:24:45] Speaker 2: he won what?
[1:24:45] Speaker 6: When he won the championship. Because he stopped playing pretty
[1:24:48] Speaker 6: much a couple years after.
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, Dirk was done. After the championship. Dirk retired. I
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: think Dirk retired what, 31? Shut the fuck up. Wait, what?
[1:24:59] Speaker 2: Hold on. He was older when he won the championship. No,
[1:25:02] Speaker 2: he wasn't. He was older because he retired. Dirk was
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: definitely in his 30s when he won. I don't know.
[1:25:10] Speaker 2: He was old. I don't remember Dirk. Was it 2011?
[1:25:12] Speaker 2: Dirk born in 78. What was it? He was 33? 32, 33?
[1:25:18] Speaker 2: Won a champion in 2011. Yeah. Yeah, like 33-ish. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: He stopped playing fast, man. Just turning 33 to his birthday.
[1:25:27] Speaker 2: But that's a different type of grind. That era's a
[1:25:29] Speaker 2: different type of grind. No, no. Listen, it's sad because
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: no one talks about the Warriors no more. I mean,
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: the biggest Warrior news, you know, this season has been,
[1:25:42] Speaker 2: you know, Steph, Shu.
[1:25:45] Speaker 3: And what shoe he wears that game is basically where
[1:25:49] Speaker 3: he's getting his recognition. And that's the sad part because
[1:25:52] Speaker 3: I believe one reason that I don't pay attention to
[1:25:55] Speaker 3: him anymore is because it's not about winning because the
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: fact that you're purposely sitting a player that can help
[1:26:07] Speaker 3: you and you're trying to force a player that clearly
[1:26:11] Speaker 3: isn't that good.
[1:26:14] Speaker 2: Kind of tells us, eh, y'all really not in it
[1:26:17] Speaker 2: to try to go out there and win it.
[1:26:19] Speaker 3: Because we all believe Kaminga is a big part of
[1:26:24] Speaker 3: you guys moving forward. And the fact that you purposely
[1:26:29] Speaker 3: want to bench him. You're showing everything you can possibly
[1:26:32] Speaker 3: can to bench him. We've seen him in the playoffs
[1:26:34] Speaker 3: last year.
[1:26:35] Speaker 1: We've seen when he got minutes, he was great defensively.
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: We was like, damn, he got his money, right? He's
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: playing against a defensive team playing what you needed, all
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: of that.
[1:26:47] Speaker 3: So the fact that you don't want to play him
[1:26:49] Speaker 3: and you're still playing this game with him just kind
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: of tells me you don't want to win. So because
[1:26:53] Speaker 3: you don't want to win and you're sitting there just
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: wasting Curry's time, I.
[1:26:57] Speaker 2: Just focus on what Curry's doing. I can really give
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: two shits about the team itself. This was a multi-layered segment, Gil,
[1:27:03] Speaker 2: so I'm glad that you brought that up. But everyone's
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: feeling the disappointment of the start of the season for
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: the Warriors. From the fans, ownership, coaches, players. According to SFGate,
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: a 27-year-old fan by the name of Justin Dutari from
[1:27:18] Speaker 2: Panama found Warriors owner Joe Lakob's email address online, felt
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: compelled to send him the following note after the Warriors
[1:27:25] Speaker 2: lost to the Blazers on the night after Steph dropped
[1:27:28] Speaker 2: that 48 piece. He said, please do something about this team.
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: What does Steph need to do to win every night?
[1:27:33] Speaker 2: Drop 50 points. Jimmy Butler's tools are being underutilized because
[1:27:37] Speaker 2: he's playing as a power forward. Due to the small
[1:27:40] Speaker 2: position players, we have no true center. I am so frustrated.
[1:27:45] Speaker 2: So this was verified. Laker responded a few minutes later
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: and said, nigga, don't email me. No, I'm just kidding.
[1:27:52] Speaker 2: He said, you can't be as frustrated as me. I'm
[1:27:54] Speaker 2: working on it. It's complicated. Style of play. Coach's desires
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: regarding players. Again, I'll read that. Coach's desires regarding players.
[1:28:04] Speaker 2: League trends. Jimmy is not the problem. So Steve Kerr
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: was asked about Lakob's email on Tuesday, had this response.
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: 13 of 14.
[1:28:11] Speaker 11: Well, we're all frustrated. You know, Joe is frustrated. I'm frustrated.
[1:28:16] Speaker 11: Steph and Dre, everybody's frustrated. And this is kind of
[1:28:19] Speaker 11: how the league works. And, you know, I, I hate
[1:28:21] Speaker 11: when people, you know, are going to post private emails. Like,
[1:28:25] Speaker 11: I mean, Imagine if everyone's emails were just publicly posted,
[1:28:29] Speaker 11: how tough that would be to live our lives. Joe
[1:28:32] Speaker 11: supports me 100%. I support him. We have a great connection.
[1:28:36] Speaker 2: I like that.
[1:28:37] Speaker 11: We've had so much continuity here in our stable environment
[1:28:41] Speaker 11: and our organization is one of our strengths. And so, yeah,
[1:28:46] Speaker 11: I didn't even know about it, but Raymond told me
[1:28:48] Speaker 11: about it.
[1:28:49] Speaker 2: It's not a big deal. Like I said, I was
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: confirmed by Raymond Riddler, Warriors, a long time ago. Raymond.
[1:28:55] Speaker 2: Raymond's still there? Listen, it ain't never been a problem.
[1:28:58] Speaker 2: It wasn't a problem because they was winning. Yeah. Their
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: relationship has been solid because they was winning. Man.
[1:29:05] Speaker 4: Over the last, what, four years, it's been fighting to
[1:29:08] Speaker 4: get in the playoffs, playing the game after playing the game.
[1:29:18] Speaker 4: It's tough times, man, and it's... Yeah, you got some
[1:29:23] Speaker 4: decisions have to be made, man.
[1:29:24] Speaker 2: That's obvious. You got to do something. Because you are
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: literally wasting this man's twilight years of his career. You're
[1:29:34] Speaker 2: wasting them. So what is it going to take for
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: him to come in there and be like, move me?
[1:29:41] Speaker 4: Is that what it's going to take for them to
[1:29:44] Speaker 4: realize that they got to do something?
[1:29:46] Speaker 2: For him to go in there and be like, listen, man,
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: either something got to give or get me out of here. Yep.
[1:29:52] Speaker 4: And right then then they'll realize the dire dire trait
[1:29:57] Speaker 4: of this situation. So because this is bad. It's sad
[1:30:02] Speaker 4: to watch man. The person the person that needs to
[1:30:04] Speaker 4: do some is Mike Dunleavy. He needs to go and
[1:30:07] Speaker 4: just fire Steve Kerr.
[1:30:08] Speaker 2: Damn, Mr. B. Yeah, you need to go and fire
[1:30:10] Speaker 2: Steve Kerr.
[1:30:12] Speaker 5: His schemes him not wanting to play young players the
[1:30:14] Speaker 5: things that he's doing with Kaminga. It already just messed
[1:30:19] Speaker 5: everything up. Jimmy Butler, he's your second option. He's only
[1:30:24] Speaker 5: shooting 11 shots. That's not going to work. At this
[1:30:28] Speaker 5: point with Draymond, you're playing Draymond at the 5. You're
[1:30:30] Speaker 5: playing Jimmy at the 4, so they're all out of position.
[1:30:33] Speaker 5: If I'm Mike Dunleavy, like I said before, you're going
[1:30:35] Speaker 5: to have to have them balls and go in there
[1:30:37] Speaker 5: and tell them, yo, listen, man, Steve Curry, your time
[1:30:40] Speaker 5: is up.
[1:30:40] Speaker 2: We cool on all that shit that we were doing.
[1:30:43] Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler... He can be on the trade block and
[1:30:46] Speaker 2: Draymond Green.
[1:30:47] Speaker 5: And then, you know, you just got to let Steph
[1:30:49] Speaker 5: know this is what we're doing.
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: Regardless if Steph got a problem with it or not,
[1:30:53] Speaker 2: just the fact that it's business. But Mr. B, what
[1:30:56] Speaker 2: if Steph does have a problem with it? Steph already
[1:30:58] Speaker 2: left one shoe company. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Wait, wait.
[1:31:02] Speaker 2: You said what? If what?
[1:31:04] Speaker 5: You said if Steph has a problem with it?
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: What if Steph does have.
[1:31:09] Speaker 4: A problem with it? How do you find Steve Kerr?
[1:31:12] Speaker 4: I mean, he doesn't have a no trade clause.
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: What did they give up to be in this position?
[1:31:20] Speaker 1: That's the grand question. What the fuck did you do
[1:31:23] Speaker 1: to get here?
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: Sock the motherfucker. You sock the motherfucker. Sock the mama.
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: You sock the mama. That ain't it. That ain't it either.
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: You sock the mama. Sock the mama. We see how
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: he plans. So that ain't it. That's just an excuse.
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: So you saying the fact that they got rid of Jordan? No, no, no, no.
[1:31:44] Speaker 2: I'm saying the karma.
[1:31:46] Speaker 4: The karma behind the energy that Steve Kerr allowed and
[1:31:52] Speaker 4: promoted to happen.
[1:31:53] Speaker 2: He told him to take it up for himself.
[1:31:55] Speaker 4: But he promoted it instead of telling Draymond to stand
[1:31:57] Speaker 4: the fuck down.
[1:31:58] Speaker 2: No, he told Jordan Poole to take it up for himself.
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: I'm going to move past that, though. I'm going to
[1:32:02] Speaker 2: move past that. That's a regular NBA fight. Fuck all that.
[1:32:04] Speaker 1: So let's just say, Trey Thompson.
[1:32:07] Speaker 4: You're going to bench Klay and put in Brzezinski and say,
[1:32:11] Speaker 4: we're going to move in this direction. And then a
[1:32:14] Speaker 4: couple seasons later, you put Brzezinski to the bench. And
[1:32:18] Speaker 4: now Brzezinski don't know what the fuck going on because
[1:32:21] Speaker 4: you put me in here in front of Klay.
[1:32:23] Speaker 12: So now it's the Klay. I think it was the punch.
[1:32:26] Speaker 12: So now, is it the punch? Is it the punch
[1:32:29] Speaker 12: at Klay? Let's move forward. Kaminga, what did I say
[1:32:33] Speaker 12: about Kaminga?
[1:32:35] Speaker 2: It's a Bernie building. Get your ass out of there.
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: Get your motherfucking ass out of here.
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: Josh Adamas been said it. Yes, he did. Get your
[1:32:42] Speaker 2: ass out of here. He tried to. Man. Now look
[1:32:46] Speaker 2: at him. This nigga shit. Steve Kerr was the first
[1:32:49] Speaker 2: person to come out. Steve Kerr went to the Olympics
[1:32:51] Speaker 2: and did what to Jason Tatum? That's it. That's it.
[1:32:54] Speaker 2: Everybody know NBA fights happen. You got socked out. All right.
[1:32:59] Speaker 2: It's not the sock out for me.
[1:33:00] Speaker 6: It's the fact that when Steve Kerr went up there
[1:33:03] Speaker 6: and said it wasn't a fight.
[1:33:05] Speaker 2: They were just practicing. It wasn't a fight. He wasn't,
[1:33:07] Speaker 2: he wasn't, he wasn't. It wasn't a fight. It wasn't
[1:33:09] Speaker 2: a fight. It was a team thing. It was a
[1:33:11] Speaker 2: team thing. And then he had to retract this shit. Like,
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: it's always some sneaky shit.
[1:33:19] Speaker 10: Even that shit right there.
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: He didn't want that shit to come out because the
[1:33:25] Speaker 1: motherfucker's telling everybody, hey, it's Steve doing all this shit.
[1:33:29] Speaker 2: It's Steve doing all this shit. Hey, Jimmy don't know
[1:33:32] Speaker 2: what the fuck going on.
[1:33:33] Speaker 4: Steve trying to move these pieces the way he want
[1:33:36] Speaker 4: shit done.
[1:33:37] Speaker 2: And it's hitting all the niggas in Steph Curry's backpack. Yeah.
[1:33:40] Speaker 2: And don't nobody want to motherfucking admit it. He been
[1:33:43] Speaker 2: carrying this motherfucker. It feel a little fishy, though, that
[1:33:45] Speaker 2: this email goes out. I'm just looking at it, and
[1:33:48] Speaker 2: Laker responds to it in a couple of minutes, then
[1:33:50] Speaker 2: this thing leaves. That's it. Time to get to the
[1:33:52] Speaker 2: bottom of this. No, that's not the secret. The part
[1:33:54] Speaker 2: is the email and what he says. Yeah. Right?
[1:34:01] Speaker 3: Listen to the response. That's what I'm on, Steve. We're
[1:34:05] Speaker 3: on the same page. Like, we're on the same page.
[1:34:09] Speaker 3: You can't be as frustrated as me, though.
[1:34:11] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:34:11] Speaker 3: He said something that was like, whatever his decision is
[1:34:15] Speaker 3: on how this roster is being played, I've mentioned Bobby
[1:34:18] Speaker 3: Kaminga and not playing him like he would. The owner's
[1:34:21] Speaker 3: okay with it. And that's basically what he's kind of
[1:34:25] Speaker 3: alluding to.
[1:34:26] Speaker 2: Because... I'm saying you're an owner, you get a random
[1:34:29] Speaker 2: email to your personal email account.
[1:34:30] Speaker 4: But Steve Kerr has this owner here because he has
[1:34:32] Speaker 4: four championships with him. So the decisions that Steve Kerr
[1:34:36] Speaker 4: has made before with the roster.
[1:34:39] Speaker 2: Has worked out. With confidence.
[1:34:41] Speaker 4: With confidence. So he was able to win with those decisions.
[1:34:46] Speaker 4: But when the Klay shit went left, this is just
[1:34:51] Speaker 4: me thinking, if I'm the owner of the Klay shit,
[1:34:53] Speaker 4: I'm like, hmm. Y'all really want to get rid of it?
[1:34:56] Speaker 4: Y'all really want to get rid of it?
[1:34:58] Speaker 2: I ain't saying I'm going to make a move, but
[1:34:59] Speaker 2: my antenna would have went up. My antenna would have
[1:35:01] Speaker 2: went up and be like, He keeps doubling down.
[1:35:06] Speaker 4: The guy that helped us get this thing? You want
[1:35:09] Speaker 4: to put him on the bench and then get.
[1:35:11] Speaker 2: Rid of him? Treat him like.
[1:35:12] Speaker 1: Why?
[1:35:13] Speaker 4: That's when I would have started questioning Steve Kerr if
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: I was on the right.
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: He was trying to force Prazinga to be a star
[1:35:18] Speaker 2: because he had to. Because he liked him. Yes, but
[1:35:20] Speaker 2: the fact that he beat.
[1:35:23] Speaker 1: Mike Dunley, if you want to make his mark, he
[1:35:25] Speaker 1: better fire Steve Kerr.
[1:35:28] Speaker 2: Mr. Big. It's time. He ain't going to do that.
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: He can't do that. We got to do something. Jimmy
[1:35:31] Speaker 2: or Draymond both got to go. Something got to go.
[1:35:33] Speaker 2: What's it called? Wasting in Portland. Go trade. Jeremy Grant.
[1:35:37] Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant. Trade him for Kaminga. Man, he coming off.
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: I mean, not for Zingas, for Kaminga. Kaminga? Yeah, Kaminga. Fuck,
[1:35:43] Speaker 2: I can't say his name. Jimmy Chunga?
[1:35:44] Speaker 3: The problem is, I think he doesn't know the.
[1:35:48] Speaker 1: Who?
[1:35:49] Speaker 2: Trade him for Jimmy Chunga. Who? I don't think he
[1:35:54] Speaker 2: knows his players. No, he don't give a fuck to me. Because....
[1:36:03] Speaker 3: Okay, the two championships that he had, or the first
[1:36:06] Speaker 3: championship that he had in the 73-9 team, the power
[1:36:11] Speaker 3: of that team was that bench.
[1:36:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
[1:36:16] Speaker 3: When Curry said... Like, when people talk about Curry sits, right?
[1:36:20] Speaker 3: You have to really understand the thought behind of it.
[1:36:27] Speaker 3: You can sit on the bench because when you got
[1:36:30] Speaker 3: out the game, you were down eight. Now, when you're
[1:36:33] Speaker 3: supposed to get in, we up 20, right?
[1:36:36] Speaker 2: So the bench squad... push the.
[1:36:40] Speaker 3: Lead up so much that Curry got to relax.
[1:36:44] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: So when you're talking about Barbosa, they don't have nobody
[1:36:47] Speaker 3: like that.
[1:36:48] Speaker 2: They don't have a Sean Livingston. They don't have an Iguodala.
[1:36:51] Speaker 2: They don't even have a Harrison Barnes. They don't have.
[1:36:54] Speaker 3: Like, those guys would have been starting on other teams.
[1:36:58] Speaker 3: There's nobody really on that roster. Like, you're talking about
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: four or five guys on the bench that is considered starters.
[1:37:05] Speaker 2: They're like, yo, we got all this... We can do that.
[1:37:08] Speaker 3: We got our own style of play right then when
[1:37:11] Speaker 3: you get Katie same thing you got you got a
[1:37:13] Speaker 3: different now this group right here.
[1:37:16] Speaker 2: When you look at the roster, it's not put together.
[1:37:18] Speaker 4: Well, and the guys who we because I'm like Jimmy
[1:37:21] Speaker 4: if you're going to play that that I will bring
[1:37:23] Speaker 4: you off the bench to play like that man.
[1:37:25] Speaker 3: You can be the number one like you're not a
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: you're not a bench guy, but how you're playing this game.
[1:37:33] Speaker 3: on this team. This is not my, like, this is
[1:37:36] Speaker 3: not Miami. I don't have, I don't, I don't have
[1:37:38] Speaker 3: a hero on the BAM. You, you have to be
[1:37:40] Speaker 3: one of those.
[1:37:41] Speaker 4: What did Jimmy say he wanted, that he was pleased
[1:37:44] Speaker 4: to be when he got to the Warriors?
[1:37:45] Speaker 2: He had to play dominoes. I love to be Robin.
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. I love, I'm loving, I
[1:37:51] Speaker 2: get to be Robin. But that's the problem.
[1:37:53] Speaker 4: And that's what I said the problem was immediately. I'm like, nigga,
[1:37:56] Speaker 4: you took from being Batman in Miami to come be
[1:37:59] Speaker 4: Robin with him when you could be Superman?
[1:38:02] Speaker 2: He was never a Batman. He never wanted to be
[1:38:04] Speaker 2: the way he is. Right, he's never a Batman. Never
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: wanted to be that. He was never a Batman from
[1:38:08] Speaker 2: day one.
[1:38:08] Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying is, like, when you think
[1:38:10] Speaker 3: about his movements on what made him great is... He
[1:38:14] Speaker 3: understands when you need big buckets and you need those
[1:38:18] Speaker 3: 80 runs because they haven't been paying attention to me.
[1:38:22] Speaker 3: I can I can fuck some people up. Now you're
[1:38:24] Speaker 3: in a role where you have Curry. You are the
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: number two. but you're playing the game as if the
[1:38:33] Speaker 3: other three players on the team is like that themselves.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: They can do their own thing. Draymond does that.
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: He's playing like Draymond. You have to be Klay. You
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: have to be KD. You have to be Jimmy in
[1:38:46] Speaker 1: the playoffs. You can't be Draymond Green because if Draymond,
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: if you got two Draymond Greens out there, who are
[1:38:52] Speaker 1: you passing it to, Post?
[1:38:53] Speaker 2: I said that. The fuck Post gonna do?
[1:38:55] Speaker 4: I said you might as well put Jimmy in as Draymond,
[1:38:58] Speaker 4: bring Draymond off the bench if you.
[1:38:59] Speaker 2: Gonna play like this.
[1:39:01] Speaker 1: If you're going to play like Draymond.
[1:39:05] Speaker 2: If you're going to play like this, nigga, you have
[1:39:07] Speaker 2: to take Draymond.
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: I'm like, Kamega, you got to take 18 shots.
[1:39:11] Speaker 2: And he would. And he will.
[1:39:13] Speaker 3: Now, Draymond Green, you bridge it all together. Right, so
[1:39:17] Speaker 3: when niggas doing this, you, you, okay, get it, Kaminka, give.
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: It to him, let's do it. That's how you play
[1:39:21] Speaker 2: the game.
[1:39:21] Speaker 3: But the fact that you don't have someone who's guaranteed
[1:39:25] Speaker 3: 18 shots or being aggressive is like, all right, for
[1:39:27] Speaker 3: the first three quarters, okay, Jimmy, you're going.
[1:39:30] Speaker 2: To take me, pass.
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: Don't help, don't help, don't help. Everybody say, oh, Jimmy
[1:39:34] Speaker 1: don't want to pass. They know how to play you now.
[1:39:38] Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, help.
[1:39:40] Speaker 6: I can see them complaining that Kaminka take the shots
[1:39:42] Speaker 6: that It's meant for Steph.
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: No, he don't. There's no shots for him out there.
[1:39:47] Speaker 2: I just know... I know what you're saying. Yeah, but
[1:39:49] Speaker 2: that's bullshit. It is. It don't matter if you make
[1:39:51] Speaker 2: it or not. That's what he said to Buddy Hill.
[1:39:52] Speaker 2: He was saying that shit to Buddy Hill. Buddy, don't
[1:39:55] Speaker 2: be shooting that shit. I hate that shit. But that's
[1:39:57] Speaker 2: the problem. You can't do that because....
[1:40:11] Speaker 3: You need them to be aggressive and not robots. So
[1:40:14] Speaker 3: people stop paying attention to Steph.
[1:40:16] Speaker 2: That's why he's doing that Phil Jackson bullshit. And he
[1:40:19] Speaker 2: can go. He's doing that Phil Jackson bullshit. He can
[1:40:21] Speaker 2: go all the mind games. Anybody plan that? He's not
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: going to play. Let's talk about the Kaminga side of
[1:40:26] Speaker 2: it real quick. So obviously we talked about the interesting
[1:40:28] Speaker 2: part of Laker's email response. A disgruntled Warriors fan was
[1:40:32] Speaker 2: Laker mentioning coaches' desires regarding players. Warriors' Jonathan Kaminga appeared
[1:40:37] Speaker 2: destined for a breakup in the near future. Fifth year forward,
[1:40:41] Speaker 2: once again, finding himself Steve Kerr's doghouse. She wasn't eligible
[1:40:44] Speaker 2: on Monday, right? No, he's not until January 15th. So
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: after playing 21 minutes against the Cavs on December 6th
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: in a win, which we know should have watched. The
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Cavs did not win, though. Kaminga's gotten three straight DMPs,
[1:40:56] Speaker 2: with the Warriors losing two of those three games. So
[1:40:58] Speaker 2: Kaminga isn't eligible to be traded until January 15th after
[1:41:02] Speaker 2: signing a two-year deal this offseason, including a team option
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: in the final year. Contract was structured to make a
[1:41:06] Speaker 2: trade easier, and obviously that trade now feels imminent. So
[1:41:10] Speaker 2: Kaminga's handled the situation like a pro, saying all the
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: right things despite his obvious frustrations. Kurt was recently asked
[1:41:15] Speaker 2: about the lack of playing time for Kaminga and said,
[1:41:18] Speaker 2: my desire is for JK to be the best player
[1:41:20] Speaker 2: he can be, regardless of where he ends up, here
[1:41:23] Speaker 2: or elsewhere. Three straight DMPs, eligible to be traded January 15th.
[1:41:29] Speaker 2: Are the Warriors diminishing Kaminga's trade value by benching him,
[1:41:32] Speaker 2: or is it a smart move to not play him
[1:41:33] Speaker 2: to ensure he avoids injury? Shit, it ain't 14. I
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: have 14 of them motherfuckers. Hmm? He ain't got 14 DMPs.
[1:41:40] Speaker 4: 14 DMPs on the contract year after coming off your
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: best year. When you're average 15. And looking around like,
[1:41:50] Speaker 4: what's going on? And them motherfuckers ain't saying shit. You
[1:41:53] Speaker 4: ain't even getting no interviews.
[1:41:54] Speaker 2: Motherfuckers ain't saying a goddamn thing to you. You look
[1:41:57] Speaker 2: way worse.
[1:41:58] Speaker 4: 14, he just got three, nigga. Three of them got
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: you in there feeling some type.
[1:42:04] Speaker 2: Of fucking way.
[1:42:05] Speaker 4: Got you feeling something, but you're just trying to, like
[1:42:08] Speaker 4: he's saying, all the good shit. But the team's still losing,
[1:42:12] Speaker 4: so it makes it look even way worse. They don't
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: even think you can help us win at all. It's
[1:42:18] Speaker 4: definitely worse because they're losing.
[1:42:22] Speaker 2: So my thing is, right, when.
[1:42:26] Speaker 4: This is an issue, right, With the way media and
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: social media is these days, thriving on negativity, right? When
[1:42:38] Speaker 4: should the Warriors PR staff step in and be like,
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: Jonathan Kamiga not available for questioning?
[1:42:47] Speaker 2: Is he saying anything? I'm staying ready.
[1:42:50] Speaker 1: I'm waiting to get back out there.
[1:42:52] Speaker 2: So you're saying not to give him none of that?
[1:42:54] Speaker 2: They can. The team can. No, because the NBA is
[1:42:57] Speaker 2: going to find the team. Welcome. But I'm just saying,
[1:43:00] Speaker 2: they're not going to do that. Well, I just walk
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: out then. You're not finna ask me. You ain't no
[1:43:03] Speaker 2: finna ask me. Get out of there early.
[1:43:04] Speaker 4: You just ain't gonna keep asking me the same shit
[1:43:06] Speaker 4: while I'm not playing. I'm not gonna keep... I'm gonna
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: go to the PRP. Listen, I'm not gonna keep answering
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: the same questions while I'm not playing. Tell them to
[1:43:14] Speaker 4: talk to Steve, man.
[1:43:15] Speaker 2: Man.
[1:43:16] Speaker 4: Like, don't keep come asking me this. If not, listen,
[1:43:19] Speaker 4: if you don't... So the way you're gonna do the PR,
[1:43:21] Speaker 4: if you're not gonna take care of it, I'm not
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: gonna make myself available.
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: Have you heard what Steve's... And then you're gonna take
[1:43:26] Speaker 2: the fine every time, right? Fuck it. At this point,
[1:43:29] Speaker 2: it's a team fine. Okay. No, no, no. It's coming
[1:43:32] Speaker 2: out of your check. It's a team fine. It's going
[1:43:33] Speaker 2: to come out of your check, though.
[1:43:34] Speaker 4: Cool, it's a team, but you ain't going to keep
[1:43:36] Speaker 4: putting me on the spot, making Steve like I'm the
[1:43:38] Speaker 4: bad guy.
[1:43:38] Speaker 2: But they done went to Steve, right? You know what
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: Steve said? But you know you can cancel all that.
[1:43:42] Speaker 2: Other guys are playing better. That was the rebuttal.
[1:43:45] Speaker 1: But why?
[1:43:49] Speaker 2: Because now when I make a statement, I'm done with it.
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: Now you know what it is, though, right? Now I'm
[1:43:53] Speaker 2: the problem again. No, no, no. No, your statement is
[1:43:56] Speaker 2: I'm here to play basketball whatever it is, right? But
[1:43:57] Speaker 2: I'm not here to play basketball. You said that. I'm
[1:43:59] Speaker 2: here to do all the right shit. Why do I
[1:44:01] Speaker 2: have to keep reiterating the same thing? I just told
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: y'all last time, so I'm not going to answer that.
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: Next question. But there's nothing else to ask for. Now
[1:44:09] Speaker 2: y'all go.
[1:44:10] Speaker 4: But they're going to keep prompt.
[1:44:13] Speaker 2: So this is my thing. The PR people need to
[1:44:15] Speaker 2: step in. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying he's
[1:44:17] Speaker 2: not saying anything, though. He's not saying anything bad.
[1:44:20] Speaker 1: Of course, that's what my point is. Not to divert
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: it from him.
[1:44:23] Speaker 4: My point is, why give the opportunity for him to.
[1:44:27] Speaker 2: Come in there, bitch, having a bad day one day, and...
[1:44:31] Speaker 2: Be like, man, this is some motherfucking bullshit. Because that's
[1:44:35] Speaker 2: just what it is.
[1:44:36] Speaker 1: They waiting on that. They waiting on it, right? They
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: waiting on it.
[1:44:38] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. No, so the PR won't even
[1:44:40] Speaker 2: do it. But why would the, so that's, and that's
[1:44:43] Speaker 2: the problem. And that's the issue. But he hasn't done it.
[1:44:46] Speaker 2: I know he hasn't done it. He has not. I
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: know that. But who's to say, why keep putting this
[1:44:53] Speaker 2: kid in this situation? So what's the lens? That's all
[1:44:55] Speaker 2: I'm saying. What's the lens we're looking at?
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: He's only going to be in that situation as long
[1:44:58] Speaker 1: as he's in that jersey and he's in that situation.
[1:45:00] Speaker 12: Now, if he gets out of there, then he's... If
[1:45:02] Speaker 12: they stop asking him questions, though, if they stop asking him, right?
[1:45:06] Speaker 4: I would just say what it looks like. They asking,
[1:45:09] Speaker 4: they was asking the media to stop asking Shador questions.
[1:45:12] Speaker 4: Why y'all keep going up to do it when he
[1:45:14] Speaker 4: not playing?
[1:45:15] Speaker 2: Y'all doing him a disservice.
[1:45:16] Speaker 1: Because he has to answer the question.
[1:45:20] Speaker 4: The point I made was my first thought. The way
[1:45:23] Speaker 4: media and social media is these days. The point I made, yes.
[1:45:26] Speaker 2: If you don't answer, it's worse than answering. Why make him... So...
[1:45:32] Speaker 2: You not getting interviewed is like, why they're not interviewing Kameka?
[1:45:35] Speaker 2: Why they're not interviewing Shador? No, they know why they're
[1:45:38] Speaker 2: not interviewing him.
[1:45:39] Speaker 1: He's not playing. So what does it matter? Because we
[1:45:41] Speaker 1: want to know how you feel.
[1:45:43] Speaker 2: Why? Because we know you feel some type of way.
[1:45:45] Speaker 4: So therefore, you want me to say something crazy? We
[1:45:48] Speaker 4: know you feel some type of way. You want me
[1:45:50] Speaker 4: to say something crazy? What did Shador do? Shador felt
[1:45:53] Speaker 4: some type of way so bad, he did a whole mime.
[1:45:57] Speaker 4: The PR guy for the team's job is to make
[1:46:00] Speaker 4: the team look good, right?
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: What?
[1:46:03] Speaker 4: If you work for PR for the team, your job
[1:46:05] Speaker 4: is to shed the most positive light you can on
[1:46:07] Speaker 4: a team.
[1:46:07] Speaker 2: Facts.
[1:46:08] Speaker 4: Not to put any added for anything negative to come out.
[1:46:12] Speaker 4: So if I, it's just me thinking outside. If I'm
[1:46:15] Speaker 4: the PR person, I'm not putting him in this situation
[1:46:17] Speaker 4: for him to eventually get frustrated with the same question
[1:46:21] Speaker 4: every day.
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: You can't control. You can't control. The player. The player.
[1:46:24] Speaker 2: It's media training. At that point, because you can't control
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: the questions. You can't control the questions. That's emotional training. Emotional, too.
[1:46:35] Speaker 1: He's been doing this for two years. He's been doing
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: this for two years with them. So it's not like.
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: We came up here and said, oh, look what Kameen said.
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: He does the same thing every single time. up to
[1:46:44] Speaker 2: ask the same fucking question. I'm going to just keep
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: asking them. I'm going to keep giving them the same thing.
[1:46:48] Speaker 2: Beast mode. Beast mode. Y'all know what I'm up here for.
[1:46:50] Speaker 2: That's all?
[1:46:51] Speaker 4: I'm up here to help you guys get fined, man.
[1:46:54] Speaker 4: I'm looking at, if I'm his agent, I'm looking at
[1:46:57] Speaker 4: protecting the person.
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: But they can't protect you because now you're in an
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: environment where you have, it's out of your control.
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: You have to do this. There's no other way around it.
[1:47:05] Speaker 2: If you're not going to talk, okay, well, then we're
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: going to show you who we are. Do what? Not
[1:47:09] Speaker 2: play me?
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: Not play you?
[1:47:10] Speaker 2: Or you'll be gone. Or you'll be gone. Are they
[1:47:14] Speaker 2: playing him now?
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: Bro, did you see what they did to Marshawn Lynch
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: in that championship game?
[1:47:19] Speaker 2: They didn't want to give him the ball at that
[1:47:20] Speaker 2: one-yard line. Why? Because if he scored that touchdown MVP,
[1:47:24] Speaker 2: I ain't doing media. Who did that? They did. No,
[1:47:28] Speaker 2: it was the quarterback, brother. Right, because you know what?
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: If I give you this ball and Marshawn Lynch... I
[1:47:33] Speaker 1: know people that was there. What I'm saying is because
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: he was so denied about media, we don't want to
[1:47:38] Speaker 1: give you the ball?
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: Like, you have to play the game. That had nothing
[1:47:41] Speaker 2: to do with that. Yes, it did. No, it didn't.
[1:47:44] Speaker 2: Because if I'm the quarterback... First of all, Marshawn Lynch.
[1:47:47] Speaker 4: I see somebody that was on the team every single day.
[1:47:51] Speaker 4: You think this is facts, 100% facts.
[1:47:52] Speaker 2: I know....
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: The dude that was on the team, his child goes
[1:47:56] Speaker 4: to Sierra Canyon. Our kid's in the sixth grade together.
[1:47:59] Speaker 4: Somebody that was on the team.
[1:48:00] Speaker 2: I know 100% facts. Could be anybody on the Seahawks.
[1:48:03] Speaker 2: I know 100% facts. It had nothing to do with
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: what you're saying. I think so. It did. So what
[1:48:09] Speaker 2: you're thinking, 100% facts.
[1:48:10] Speaker 4: Why are you digging in that?
[1:48:11] Speaker 2: That's right. What I'm saying is, wait for there's a
[1:48:14] Speaker 2: problem before there's a problem. No, these are 100% facts.
[1:48:19] Speaker 2: Drop it. Drop it right now. But my thing is
[1:48:21] Speaker 2: protect the player at some point. You can't. You can't.
[1:48:24] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You cannot.
[1:48:26] Speaker 4: You can only go so far. You can only go
[1:48:29] Speaker 4: so far. If you want to, you better go tell
[1:48:31] Speaker 4: somebody to protect You can only go so far.
[1:48:33] Speaker 2: What did I say? His agent needs to go to
[1:48:35] Speaker 2: the people. That's what I'm saying. Somebody needs to protect
[1:48:37] Speaker 2: the players, is all I'm saying.
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: I've got some sources on that side, and they have
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: been trying to do that.
[1:48:41] Speaker 2: They've been trying to protect them.
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: Your job is to answer the questions.
[1:48:45] Speaker 2: No, his job is to play basketball. Your job is
[1:48:46] Speaker 2: to answer the questions. It's a part of the contract.
[1:48:49] Speaker 4: So, therefore, he's not playing, so what they do? You
[1:48:52] Speaker 4: have to be available. Media availability.
[1:48:55] Speaker 1: That's the part of the contract, media availability. You've got
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: to be available. You have to be available. You can
[1:49:00] Speaker 1: be quiet there.
[1:49:01] Speaker 2: And leave. Then you got a problem. No, you don't.
[1:49:03] Speaker 2: He's doing right. There's no problems. You're acting like there
[1:49:07] Speaker 2: is a problem. Who's acting like there's a problem? Who's
[1:49:09] Speaker 2: talking about it? Who's acting like that? You are. No,
[1:49:11] Speaker 2: I'm not.
[1:49:11] Speaker 1: You're talking about if something's happened.
[1:49:13] Speaker 2: Nothing's happened. No, I'm not. You don't even have this conversation.
[1:49:16] Speaker 1: You stand. You stand. You said there's a problem that
[1:49:19] Speaker 1: they're not protecting him.
[1:49:20] Speaker 4: To keep answering the same question, to put someone in
[1:49:24] Speaker 4: a position for potential for him to say something.
[1:49:28] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. But he has to play. How
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: do I know if I say that? So why are
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: we even talking about it? He has to. Because I
[1:49:33] Speaker 2: can say what I want to. The only people who
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: say something to Steve Kerr, keep the mic away from
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: that nigga. Yeah, because I can say what I want to.
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[1:49:39] Speaker 4: If he's a professional enough to go up there and say, hey,
[1:49:42] Speaker 4: I'm going to be ready when they play me.
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: He's doing a good job.
[1:49:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, the point of it is I can say what
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: I want to. He's doing a good job. That's the
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: point of it.
[1:49:48] Speaker 4: You're arguing with us like he's not. I'm not arguing
[1:49:51] Speaker 4: with y'all. Y'all want to argue with me because that's
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: the point.
[1:49:53] Speaker 2: That I made.
[1:49:54] Speaker 4: I don't want to argue with y'all. I'm making a point.
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: I said, in my opinion, my point of view is
[1:49:59] Speaker 4: what I said. You want to argue with my point
[1:50:01] Speaker 4: of view. I don't want to argue. I made the statement.
[1:50:04] Speaker 4: So you had a rebuttal to what I said. You
[1:50:06] Speaker 4: want to argue with me? So you could have been like,
[1:50:08] Speaker 4: you could have listened to my point and been like,
[1:50:10] Speaker 4: but you want to argue with me.
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. He's disagreeing. He's disagreeing with
[1:50:17] Speaker 2: your point. You can't protect him. You can't protect him.
[1:50:21] Speaker 1: You can't protect him more than he protected himself. He's
[1:50:24] Speaker 1: saying the right thing. His job is to play basketball.
[1:50:27] Speaker 1: There is basketball to be played. He is not doing it.
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: Okay. That's his job. His job. No, wait. See, that's
[1:50:34] Speaker 2: the problem.
[1:50:35] Speaker 4: His job is to play basketball. I've never disagreed. His
[1:50:38] Speaker 4: job is to play basketball.
[1:50:40] Speaker 1: He has nothing wrong to say.
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: He's been saying everything. That's all.
[1:50:43] Speaker 1: And I said that too.
[1:50:45] Speaker 4: And I said that as well. I said he has
[1:50:48] Speaker 4: been saying all the right things. He hasn't done anything
[1:50:50] Speaker 4: wrong up to this point.
[1:50:52] Speaker 2: Yes. As a player, his job is to do what?
[1:50:59] Speaker 2: The job is to be available when the team says so.
[1:51:02] Speaker 2: That's your job. We pay you. I'm not asking what
[1:51:04] Speaker 2: part of the job is.
[1:51:09] Speaker 4: Mike, when you get in the main part, the main
[1:51:11] Speaker 4: part of his job is to play basketball.
[1:51:13] Speaker 2: The main part. But what do you get picked for?
[1:51:15] Speaker 2: The other parts. When you get drafted, where you got
[1:51:17] Speaker 2: to go? Yes.
[1:51:18] Speaker 1: You got to go to that day.
[1:51:19] Speaker 2: And you got to answer them questions in the back.
[1:51:21] Speaker 2: I know. I did it first. I was the first
[1:51:23] Speaker 2: one to do it. I know. We got to. I
[1:51:25] Speaker 2: got picked first. I know. So that's a part of
[1:51:26] Speaker 2: the shit. We all got picked. I know you were
[1:51:28] Speaker 2: the first one to do it. I was the first
[1:51:29] Speaker 2: one to answer the question. So I get it.
[1:51:31] Speaker 4: I was the first one to answer the question, so
[1:51:32] Speaker 4: I get it, right? I understand that part, right?
[1:51:35] Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm not disputing none of that. That's fine.
[1:51:37] Speaker 2: Everything y'all saying, I agree with. All right, all right. Okay. Hey, man.
[1:51:41] Speaker 1: Exclamation point.
[1:51:42] Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. I agree with y'all. Hey, no,
[1:51:45] Speaker 2: let's get to the point. I agree with y'all. Exclamation point. Okay,
[1:51:49] Speaker 2: you keep taking my story. You're going to get the thumb.
[1:51:51] Speaker 2: You're going to get the thumb. No, we'll do it then.
[1:51:53] Speaker 2: We'll do it then. Wow. Yo, he taking my goddamn star.
[1:51:59] Speaker 2: I agree with y'all. Yes. Exclamation point. Media is a
[1:52:03] Speaker 2: part of the job. Yes. I agree with that. Okay
[1:52:07] Speaker 2: exclamation point. He is there to play basketball. Okay exclamation.
[1:52:11] Speaker 2: He is not getting an opportunity to do that. Okay,
[1:52:14] Speaker 2: but so don't wait.
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: Let him go ahead guys.
[1:52:15] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:52:15] Speaker 1: We got it.
[1:52:16] Speaker 2: We got it. It's 1 30. Let's go finish my
[1:52:17] Speaker 2: statement for me. Please. You don't agree. I think you
[1:52:20] Speaker 2: don't agree with the team protecting They're not protecting you.
[1:52:31] Speaker 2: You don't agree with that, right? So you want to
[1:52:34] Speaker 2: finish my statement? I'm asking you. So you want to
[1:52:36] Speaker 2: finish my statement? No, I'm asking the question. Do you
[1:52:37] Speaker 2: want to finish? No, you haven't finished it. So you
[1:52:39] Speaker 2: want to finish?
[1:52:40] Speaker 4: The shit that I formulated in my brain is going
[1:52:42] Speaker 4: to come out your mouth.
[1:52:43] Speaker 2: Go ahead. No, I was asking you a question. I'm
[1:52:46] Speaker 2: trying to figure out how much protection you want the
[1:52:47] Speaker 2: team to do. They haven't done anything. That's what I said.
[1:52:51] Speaker 2: I believe the team has. Because the team, first of all,
[1:52:54] Speaker 2: the team knows who's coming in.
[1:52:55] Speaker 4: Josiah said as well, he said he had some sources
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: that they have been trying to protect.
[1:53:00] Speaker 2: Look. A crew. What did you say? His crew. Thank you.
[1:53:05] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:53:07] Speaker 1: So the team wants to come in here and say, hey,
[1:53:08] Speaker 1: don't ask me shit about Steve Kerr.
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: But they've been doing their best to try to protect him,
[1:53:12] Speaker 2: but it's been a smear campaign. When you say protect him,
[1:53:15] Speaker 2: protect him how? Because we've heard a ton of messaging. Wait, wait, wait.
[1:53:19] Speaker 10: I'm talking about protection.
[1:53:22] Speaker 2: But protect him how? We've heard a ton of messaging
[1:53:25] Speaker 2: leading up to this contract. Oh, they offered him five
[1:53:27] Speaker 2: for 120. He didn't want to take it. He wanted
[1:53:29] Speaker 2: to take that. He wanted 35 to 45. He wanted this, that,
[1:53:31] Speaker 2: and the third. All this other shit. And what I'm
[1:53:35] Speaker 2: hearing from that side, that's never been the case. They
[1:53:36] Speaker 2: would have took that five for 120. What does that
[1:53:39] Speaker 2: got to do with What he's talking about.
[1:53:42] Speaker 4: With coming in the gym, asking Kaminga questions about why
[1:53:48] Speaker 4: you're not playing every single game, and him answering them questions,
[1:53:51] Speaker 4: saying the good thing every time.
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: What do you mean from that side of my point?
[1:53:55] Speaker 2: He is being professional.
[1:53:56] Speaker 4: So what he's saying is, what does the team need
[1:53:59] Speaker 4: to do more than what Kaminga's already doing for himself?
[1:54:02] Speaker 2: He's protecting himself.
[1:54:03] Speaker 1: He's protecting himself enough for the team not.
[1:54:05] Speaker 2: To have to step in to say anything. No, you don't.
[1:54:09] Speaker 1: If I'm the media and I'm trying to post something,
[1:54:11] Speaker 1: I'm going to.
[1:54:11] Speaker 2: Try to get it. That's their job.
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: The media's job is to poke a hole in your
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: fucking shit.
[1:54:15] Speaker 2: This is my job.
[1:54:17] Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to protect himself.
[1:54:20] Speaker 2: I think he needs to protect himself. Y'all been around
[1:54:22] Speaker 2: this shit? Yes.
[1:54:23] Speaker 4: Are the guys that surround the team normally, you always
[1:54:27] Speaker 4: have one, right?
[1:54:29] Speaker 2: Reporter. that goes against the grain of what the team is.
[1:54:33] Speaker 2: The beat writer, right?
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: Their job is to make the team look as good
[1:54:37] Speaker 4: as possible when they're reporting because they hang around. They're
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: around the team more than anybody. They're supposed to have
[1:54:41] Speaker 4: this rapport with the guys.
[1:54:43] Speaker 2: The staff, the.
[1:54:44] Speaker 4: Coaching staff, they're supposed to have some type of rapport.
[1:54:49] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is if y'all see this dude every
[1:54:51] Speaker 4: single day, the immediate people that's with the team, y'all
[1:54:58] Speaker 4: see this dude every single day It's the same, it's
[1:55:02] Speaker 4: Groundhog Day with it, right? It's Groundhog Day with the media.
[1:55:06] Speaker 4: You know he not happy. You know he wants to play.
[1:55:08] Speaker 4: So why keep doing it to him.
[1:55:09] Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying. Because that's my job. So that's
[1:55:17] Speaker 2: why I'm going to keep it. But your job is
[1:55:18] Speaker 2: to make the team look good. No, my job is
[1:55:20] Speaker 2: to report.
[1:55:21] Speaker 3: But you don't talk to me.
[1:55:23] Speaker 2: You can't report, though, right? Uh-huh. John the Commigant didn't
[1:55:26] Speaker 2: play with you. I don't know what I'm doing. No,
[1:55:29] Speaker 2: but hey, are you going to do the truth? Are
[1:55:30] Speaker 2: you going to say the truth? What quote are you
[1:55:31] Speaker 2: going to have? The truth of the matter. I'm going
[1:55:33] Speaker 2: to have a quote from the same quote every single day, right?
[1:55:35] Speaker 2: That's fine. This is what he said. Again. Again, John
[1:55:37] Speaker 2: the Commigant. As a reporter, though, when it becomes like, How.
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: Many people got D in play? Hey, I'm going to
[1:55:46] Speaker 4: go ask somebody else something. I know what Jonathan Kaminga,
[1:55:49] Speaker 4: he didn't play last night. I know what he's going
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: to say. But what's important to the team right now?
[1:55:53] Speaker 4: Jonathan Kaminga not playing is important.
[1:55:55] Speaker 2: I don't know what's important to him. That's important. I
[1:55:57] Speaker 2: don't know what's important to him.
[1:55:58] Speaker 1: Ain't that headline news?
[1:55:59] Speaker 2: She is. You see what I'm saying? It's a game.
[1:56:02] Speaker 2: It's a game. Yes. It's a game. I know, but
[1:56:05] Speaker 2: that's my job as the media. Yes, absolutely. I'm going
[1:56:07] Speaker 2: to play the game.
[1:56:08] Speaker 1: So if you're going to keep giving me the same,
[1:56:09] Speaker 1: I'm going to keep writing the same thing.
[1:56:10] Speaker 2: So guess what I'm going to do, though?
[1:56:12] Speaker 4: Instead of me asking Jonathan Kaminga, I'm going to go, hey,
[1:56:15] Speaker 4: I'm going to go ask Trace Jackson.
[1:56:18] Speaker 6: Listen, instead of me.
[1:56:20] Speaker 4: Asking Kaminga the same question every day, I'm going to
[1:56:22] Speaker 4: go ask Trace Jackson, hey, man, what you think? How
[1:56:24] Speaker 4: John Kaminga been in this month? If I really want
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: to do, if I'm really, that's what they do. But
[1:56:28] Speaker 4: guess what Trace Jackson going to say? You got to
[1:56:30] Speaker 4: go ask Jonathan, man. You got to go ask Jonathan, man.
[1:56:34] Speaker 2: I'm with that. I don't know nothing about what the
[1:56:36] Speaker 2: fuck that nigga feeling, man. Go ask him. I asked
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: him yesterday. I asked him the day before yesterday, too.
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: He gave me the same answer. I'm with that. So therefore, like...
[1:56:45] Speaker 2: Will Richards got a DNP. Who? Will Richards. That's what's
[1:56:49] Speaker 2: been going on. What?
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: But the kid's been doing an excellent job at protecting himself.
[1:56:56] Speaker 4: So I'm going to have to come in and get
[1:56:58] Speaker 4: a DNP against the Bulls.
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: He said, I'm not really sure how long it lasts,
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: but as long as things are working out there and
[1:57:03] Speaker 2: we winning, I don't see the point of switching anything changing.
[1:57:06] Speaker 1: Whenever my number gets called, I'll be ready. Yeah, he
[1:57:08] Speaker 1: said all the right things. The only person that don't
[1:57:11] Speaker 1: need a mic is Steve Kerr. For sure. He don't
[1:57:15] Speaker 1: need it because we only know about Kaminga doing this
[1:57:19] Speaker 1: and that because he gets the mic.
[1:57:21] Speaker 2: Because we get the mic. Steve Kerr? Steve Kerr. What's up, Kaminga?
[1:57:25] Speaker 2: Then he tells it. From his perspective. From his perspective.
[1:57:29] Speaker 2: Don't play too smart. That's what he said. He cleaned
[1:57:32] Speaker 2: his own plate. He cleaned his plate.
[1:57:34] Speaker 3: We don't even know what Kaminga said to that statement of,
[1:57:38] Speaker 3: we don't think you're smart enough.
[1:57:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what he thinks. We don't even know.
[1:57:41] Speaker 2: That's what he said. He's good. Is that protecting him?
[1:57:46] Speaker 2: Is that protecting Kaminga? Not hearing his side. That part.
[1:57:51] Speaker 2: That's protecting him. Let me show you. Media works like this.
[1:57:57] Speaker 3: As long as Kameega's available to answer how he's answering,
[1:58:01] Speaker 3: you can't run a narrative.
[1:58:03] Speaker 2: Right? The moment he's not available, I'm gonna write, was.
[1:58:10] Speaker 3: Upset about the non-playing time and blah, blah, blah.
[1:58:14] Speaker 1: Because he didn't give me a quote, so I'm going
[1:58:15] Speaker 1: to make him make a quote.
[1:58:17] Speaker 2: That's exactly how it works.
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: That's exactly how it works.
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: But is that a bad thing?
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: But that's not how it works. Because if you say
[1:58:26] Speaker 2: you're doing your job, we have to hear you. No,
[1:58:29] Speaker 2: you're still doing your job. That's the bad thing. That's
[1:58:33] Speaker 2: still doing your job. What he said, you're still doing
[1:58:36] Speaker 2: your job.
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you gave me something, I wouldn't have
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: to do that.
[1:58:38] Speaker 2: You're still doing your job.
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to make it up if you gave
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: me something. Either way it goes, you're still doing your job.
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: If you do it, you don't have a quote. If
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: you do it, you don't have a quote. You still
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: have a job to do. You still have to turn
[1:58:51] Speaker 1: something in. You still have to print. Either way it goes.
[1:58:54] Speaker 2: So cool, I'm with it. Either way. Either you do
[1:58:56] Speaker 2: it or you don't, I'm with it.
[1:58:57] Speaker 3: If you're giving me something good, then I'm going to
[1:58:58] Speaker 3: write good because I'm reading you.
[1:59:00] Speaker 2: Okay, cool. But if you leave Steve, and you walk out, man.
[1:59:04] Speaker 2: Now nobody's protected. Cool. Because now I'm not walking out.
[1:59:07] Speaker 2: It's cool. Everybody knows. I see both sides of it.
[1:59:11] Speaker 2: Is that a bad thing for him now? Gil, I
[1:59:12] Speaker 2: see both sides of it. Being in this situation. For
[1:59:15] Speaker 2: him right now.
[1:59:15] Speaker 6: I'm frustrated with these DNPs.
[1:59:17] Speaker 2: If he just told the truth. He's blackballed.
[1:59:20] Speaker 1: Not blackballed from that, but now they get to say, see,
[1:59:22] Speaker 1: he's always angry.
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: He's angry.
[1:59:24] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:59:24] Speaker 2: He's an issue. That's psychology. That's psychology. Yeah, you want
[1:59:27] Speaker 2: to play for this.
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:59:29] Speaker 4: People don't say listen you force him to this corner.
[1:59:32] Speaker 2: What the fuck you expect?
[1:59:33] Speaker 4: You got half the population They'll call Kamega toxic and
[1:59:35] Speaker 4: blame him and say But.
[1:59:55] Speaker 2: He's the bad guy. It's perception.
[1:59:57] Speaker 1: The perception of what we.
[2:00:00] Speaker 4: Can paint you to be can become reality. They painted
[2:00:05] Speaker 4: him this already. He's listening to all of this, and
[2:00:09] Speaker 4: he's not taking the bait. So that means as.
[2:00:12] Speaker 1: Long as he doesn't take the bait, other teams is
[2:00:15] Speaker 1: looking at him like he's a professional.
[2:00:17] Speaker 2: He's a professional.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: You know, somebody offered him shit. So they said he
[2:00:25] Speaker 1: wasn't professional.
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: That was going to be my question.
[2:00:28] Speaker 2: They want to lowball him first. They can't do that yet.
[2:00:32] Speaker 2: They can't do that yet. How much you got this summer?
[2:00:33] Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now.
[2:00:34] Speaker 1: They wanted the lowball. As soon as he says anything
[2:00:36] Speaker 1: that's remotely of how he really feels. He's going to
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: be fine. He's going to be suspended. He's going to
[2:00:44] Speaker 1: be whatever. Send his ass home. And he can just say,
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: I'm not even happy with sitting on the bench.
[2:00:48] Speaker 2: People like that. People like that. Oh, fine. People like that.
[2:00:52] Speaker 2: People like that.
[2:00:53] Speaker 1: They will figure out a way to take money out
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: of his contract.
[2:00:55] Speaker 2: Nick, have you ever been labeled by your coach? Nick,
[2:00:58] Speaker 2: have you ever been labeled by your coach? Uh, contract.
[2:01:02] Speaker 2: It's not a two-year deal, but the second year is
[2:01:03] Speaker 2: a team option.
[2:01:04] Speaker 1: He couldn't get that from anybody else because they thought
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: he was a question.
[2:01:08] Speaker 2: He couldn't get 40. They could match, basically. Nobody offered
[2:01:12] Speaker 2: him because they could match him.
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: Nick, have you ever been labeled by your coach?
[2:01:16] Speaker 2: We all got labeled. They gave him a three-year option
[2:01:18] Speaker 2: and a two-year option. Do you think that can affect you?
[2:01:22] Speaker 1: When the coach says this, let me give him a
[2:01:23] Speaker 1: point across.
[2:01:24] Speaker 2: My nigga, damn. Let me give him a point across.
[2:01:28] Speaker 4: Listen, so when you got a mark over your head
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: and it says uncoachable, right? Where does that mark come from?
[2:01:37] Speaker 4: It don't come from your teammates. It don't because it
[2:01:41] Speaker 4: says uncoachable.
[2:01:43] Speaker 3: It's coming from the coach and the team.
[2:01:47] Speaker 2: No, the coach is the only one that can say, hey,
[2:01:49] Speaker 2: I can't coach him. Uncoachable. That's the only mark of
[2:01:54] Speaker 2: the perception. Now, wait, Nick.
[2:01:56] Speaker 4: Moving forward, going to other teams. When you get an interview,
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: you ain't never played for no other team in the
[2:02:03] Speaker 4: league but this team. And he say, I've heard from
[2:02:07] Speaker 4: all over the league that you're uncoachable. And Jonathan Kaminga says, well, wait,
[2:02:12] Speaker 4: Jonathan says, I've only played for one team, though.
[2:02:16] Speaker 2: They all talk.
[2:02:17] Speaker 4: So why is this one team saying I'm uncoachable? I
[2:02:20] Speaker 4: only played for one motherfucking team.
[2:02:21] Speaker 2: They all talk.
[2:02:23] Speaker 1: You're not putting me in no bag.
[2:02:25] Speaker 2: You can't change what happened to you today. Nick, that's perception, though. Nick,
[2:02:29] Speaker 2: that's perception. Put your body in this bag. Nick, that's perception.
[2:02:33] Speaker 2: Put your body in that bag. That's the perception. That's
[2:02:37] Speaker 2: the perception. That's what happens. That's what happens. No, it's not.
[2:02:42] Speaker 2: We got to roll out in a second. Shut up! Yeah, man,
[2:02:46] Speaker 2: don't speak. We got to roll out in a second.
[2:02:49] Speaker 2: But before we do, we got to talk about one
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: more thing very quickly. Jimmy Butler did the shit. Hold on.
[2:02:54] Speaker 2: We got to talk about... Jimmy Butler speak up every time.
[2:02:56] Speaker 2: We got to talk about.
[2:02:58] Speaker 1: What's his reputation?
[2:02:59] Speaker 2: What's Jimmy Butler's reputation around here? He's making a reputation
[2:03:02] Speaker 2: by talking. I'm not listening to a dead man. You
[2:03:05] Speaker 2: don't speak. Let's go. We got to talk about one
[2:03:08] Speaker 2: more thing quickly before we go. Go ahead, Josiah. One
[2:03:10] Speaker 2: more thing quickly. Ghost of Nick. So yesterday on the show,
[2:03:13] Speaker 2: we were discussing the Wimby versus Chet Holmgren rivalry when
[2:03:16] Speaker 2: the conversation shifted to a heated debate about the LeBron
[2:03:18] Speaker 2: versus Melo rivalry back in the day. Mr. B arguing
[2:03:21] Speaker 2: that rivalry was really only a thing for the first
[2:03:23] Speaker 2: few seasons and Canyon and Grill disagreeing. We posted some
[2:03:27] Speaker 2: clips of that exchange on the Gills Arena Instagram. Melo
[2:03:30] Speaker 2: saw it and had this response. Let's look at the comment.
[2:03:34] Speaker 2: He said, stop yelling, gents. Everything is all good with
[2:03:38] Speaker 2: several laughing emojis. That's crazy. Hey, you know what's crazy? Nope.
[2:03:42] Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce is really a rival.
[2:03:46] Speaker 2: Go look at the numbers. All right, go ahead. Lead
[2:03:49] Speaker 2: us out. Stop yelling, gents. Y'all ain't act like gentlemen.
[2:03:54] Speaker 2: Of course we're not. We ain't act like gents.
[2:03:56] Speaker 3: I just had one person's face. It was just one
[2:03:59] Speaker 3: person's face up there. Go back to the face. Oh,
[2:04:02] Speaker 3: it's that king of your face right there.
[2:04:05] Speaker 1: It's that king.
[2:04:06] Speaker 2: It was a carousel. Go. There were several videos. You
[2:04:09] Speaker 2: see the face. Hey, man. Hey, man. Go look at that.
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: Mellow and Paul Pierce. Stop yelling. Why is that? Why
[2:04:14] Speaker 2: Mellow and Paul Pierce?
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: Well, there's no such thing as a robbery. If I'm
[2:04:18] Speaker 1: getting to the finals and I'm an MVP, I understand
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: what we do in a regular season.
[2:04:22] Speaker 2: That's fine.
[2:04:23] Speaker 1: I know motherfuckers get up for the regular season. But
[2:04:26] Speaker 1: if I'm getting to the finals every time and I'm
[2:04:28] Speaker 1: getting MVP, this is.
[2:04:29] Speaker 2: Not a robbery.
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: Whoever I'm beating every year at the end of the year,
[2:04:33] Speaker 1: that's who my robbery is.
[2:04:34] Speaker 2: KD and Steph Curry. I don't care about no regular
[2:04:38] Speaker 2: season stats. Go look at when it's time to go.
[2:04:42] Speaker 2: As an NBA player, right, what is everybody's dream? To
[2:04:45] Speaker 2: play in what big game? To do what I did.
[2:04:47] Speaker 2: To play in the finals, right? Okay? To play in
[2:04:49] Speaker 2: the finals, right? If you're not getting to the finals,
[2:04:52] Speaker 2: how are you ever going to say.
[2:04:53] Speaker 1: That we and you are rivalry when we're not even
[2:04:56] Speaker 1: playing at our biggest moments?
[2:04:58] Speaker 2: That don't make sense to me. But go ahead, Josiah.
[2:05:01] Speaker 2: God is good. That was good. Thank you, everybody.
[2:05:04] Speaker 4: Y'all actually had this conversation? Like I said, this was
[2:05:07] Speaker 4: a conversation. He heard what he said just now, though.
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: You heard it because you said it. He said Melo
[2:05:12] Speaker 2: and Paul Pierce is a better one. Wait. Hell yeah.
[2:05:14] Speaker 2: Go look at it. Go look at the numbers.
[2:05:15] Speaker 4: So the conversation is that Melo and LeBron wasn't the
[2:05:18] Speaker 4: right guy.
[2:05:18] Speaker 2: He was only right for the first couple of years.
[2:05:20] Speaker 3: To put it together, that makes it a rivalry or
[2:05:23] Speaker 3: the rivalry itself.
[2:05:24] Speaker 2: Man, we're Wednesday. That's what Paul Pearson.
[2:05:27] Speaker 1: I guess don't look at the numbers.
[2:05:29] Speaker 2: Who's better? Hey, who's the better player? I don't know.
[2:05:31] Speaker 4: I've never even heard of Paul Pierce and Mello even
[2:05:34] Speaker 4: being one thing. I'll tell you anybody that played that
[2:05:37] Speaker 4: small forward position. Mello wanted your scalp.
[2:05:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, so doing a regular line them up doing one
[2:05:44] Speaker 1: after another.
[2:05:46] Speaker 2: We played each other full time, too. Come see me
[2:05:48] Speaker 2: when it count, though. Come see me when that motherfucking count.
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: When you left Cleveland? Come see when that shit count.
[2:05:55] Speaker 2: When you left Cleveland? Okay, well, how about this? When
[2:05:57] Speaker 2: you left Cleveland? Hold on, stop. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait.
[2:06:00] Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you
[2:06:03] Speaker 2: a question. Can I ask you what year would this
[2:06:11] Speaker 2: have been?
[2:06:27] Speaker 1: Uh, well, they both met in the playoffs twice. Uh,
[2:06:30] Speaker 1: they got swept. Melo got swept by him again. They
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: got swept, uh.
[2:06:34] Speaker 2: So, wait, wait, wait. So, you're... Who got swept?
[2:06:37] Speaker 1: New York.
[2:06:38] Speaker 2: He talking about New York. Hold on. We beat them. Wait, no, no.
[2:06:41] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, you're saying that is a bigger
[2:06:44] Speaker 3: rivalry because of two years?
[2:06:46] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[2:06:47] Speaker 3: What about Mello when he was in Denver playing against
[2:06:49] Speaker 3: Paul Pierce, whose team couldn't win a damn thing in
[2:06:51] Speaker 3: the East?
[2:06:52] Speaker 1: I mean, we can bring that up, too. I'm just asking.
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: Because I'm talking about when it mattered. My conversation is
[2:06:57] Speaker 1: when it mattered the most. You're talking about some regular
[2:07:00] Speaker 1: season shit. I don't care about 82 games. I'm talking
[2:07:02] Speaker 1: about where are you when it matters the most. That's
[2:07:06] Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Now, let's go back.
[2:07:07] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[2:07:08] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[2:07:08] Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Let's go back to 2009.
[2:07:10] Speaker 1: Let's go back to when y'all played Kobe Bryant, right?
[2:07:12] Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's swap teams, right? Why are we doing that?
[2:07:19] Speaker 2: Why are we doing that? Because are y'all beating the
[2:07:21] Speaker 2: Lakers if y'all had LeBron? Are y'all beating Kobe Bryant? Yes,
[2:07:24] Speaker 2: y'all are. You can't win. You can't win an argument.
[2:07:29] Speaker 2: Because I don't like the coach's shit. Fuck the coach.
[2:07:32] Speaker 2: You're a player, right? Make this shit happen. Three, nigga, three.
[2:07:35] Speaker 2: I love it.
[2:07:36] Speaker 1: If the podcast is on the Denver Nugget team in
[2:07:38] Speaker 1: 0-9 against the Lakers, they're going.
[2:07:40] Speaker 2: To the point. How are you going to win an
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: argument with no proof? It is proof. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
[2:07:46] Speaker 2: They lost this.
[2:07:50] Speaker 1: They lost just they lost to Kobe and they lost
[2:07:51] Speaker 1: to the Orlando Magic what I'm saying LeBron James an
[2:07:55] Speaker 1: MVP that year you put LeBron James on that Denver
[2:07:57] Speaker 1: team you guys are.
[2:07:57] Speaker 2: Getting to the final I know it hurts, but it's okay.
[2:08:12] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[2:08:13] Speaker 4: The facts of the matter. Who y'all coaching is LeBron James.
[2:08:17] Speaker 2: So it don't matter.
[2:08:18] Speaker 4: LeBron James was in the East in 2009, 2010.
[2:08:20] Speaker 2: Watch out. This ain't the Super Sonic, homie. Where's that
[2:08:23] Speaker 2: thumb going, K? It's in the air.
[2:08:25] Speaker 1: It's in the air. It's in the air. Take his temperature.
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: Take his temperature.
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: I'm going to show you. Take his temperature.
[2:08:34] Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
[2:08:41] Speaker 6: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> LeBron won 30 games when they played.
[2:08:44] Speaker 2: He won 16. LeBron averaged 27. He averaged 21. That's
[2:08:48] Speaker 2: not how you do that. Yes, it is. How you
[2:08:49] Speaker 2: do it, you say, regular season? I'm trying to see.
[2:08:52] Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me ask you
[2:08:55] Speaker 2: a question. Go ahead, Nick.
[2:08:56] Speaker 4: Since you looked up those stats, right? Does it say
[2:08:59] Speaker 4: that Melo played for Portland in those games, the Lakers
[2:09:03] Speaker 4: in those games, Houston in those games?
[2:09:06] Speaker 2: Does that shit you look up say any of that?
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: What happened when they say 46 games.
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: And LeBron won 30? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. You can't. Wait, wait, wait.
[2:09:18] Speaker 2: When you look at that, that's your whole career.
[2:09:20] Speaker 3: So if he's on a team and he went in
[2:09:22] Speaker 3: for one minute, that counts on that record. So when
[2:09:26] Speaker 3: they both got drafted, they both came on teams that
[2:09:29] Speaker 3: won 17 games.
[2:09:30] Speaker 2: They both came on teams that won 17 games. So
[2:09:32] Speaker 2: who put the ass.
[2:09:35] Speaker 1: Then, but you can't wait till someone gets to Miami.
[2:09:40] Speaker 2: We went to.
[2:09:41] Speaker 1: The finals before Miami.
[2:09:43] Speaker 2: But then what? But then what? Go look, did he
[2:09:48] Speaker 2: beat Denver? Where was he at? Where was he at
[2:09:50] Speaker 2: in the postseason? What are we talking about? I swear, nigga.
[2:09:56] Speaker 2: You're asking. He had Boobie Gibson and Zaza. Oh, you're
[2:09:59] Speaker 2: making an excuse. Now you're making an excuse. Now you're
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: making an excuse. Now you're making an excuse. Can we
[2:10:12] Speaker 2: put the mellow response back up on the screen, please,
[2:10:13] Speaker 2: before we go? Stop yelling, gents. The biggest rivalry we
[2:10:16] Speaker 2: would have had was Jokic and Embiid.
[2:10:17] Speaker 1: But Embiid got hurt.
[2:10:17] Speaker 2: That was the biggest rivalry we was gonna have. That's
[2:10:40] Speaker 2: the biggest rivalry that's ever going to happen as a
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: big man. Right now? No, if Embiid doesn't get hurt. Brandon.
[2:10:44] Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Brandon. Rivalry as two players?
[2:10:46] Speaker 2: Who's a big? Jokic and Embiid.
[2:10:50] Speaker 1: We're talking about LeBron and Miller. Was there a rivalry
[2:10:54] Speaker 1: between D-Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and LeBron James.
[2:10:57] Speaker 2: Before they merged together?
[2:10:59] Speaker 1: Were all three of these guys going against each other?
[2:11:03] Speaker 1: Were all three of these guys going against each other?
[2:11:06] Speaker 2: It's not even a rivalry.
[2:11:07] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[2:11:07] Speaker 4: So the first pick in the draft. the third pick
[2:11:10] Speaker 4: in the draft and the fourth pick in the draft
[2:11:14] Speaker 4: playing one team? And the guy that got picked second?
[2:11:20] Speaker 2: Seems like good business to me. Does it? That the
[2:11:22] Speaker 2: first pick, the third pick, and the fourth pick play together?
[2:11:25] Speaker 2: Seems like good business. Against the second pick? Get the
[2:11:27] Speaker 2: fuck out of here. Yeah, seems like good business to me.
[2:11:29] Speaker 2: Come on now. Seems like good business.
[2:11:31] Speaker 4: Come on now. On that note, it's a great play.
[2:11:33] Speaker 4: And I got another one for you. So you said
[2:11:35] Speaker 4: you watched every single game that they played against, right?
[2:11:38] Speaker 2: Almost.
[2:11:39] Speaker 1: Why?
[2:11:40] Speaker 2: Rivalry. Why? You said why? Why? Because it's good basketball.
[2:11:45] Speaker 2: So it's not a rivalry? It's just good basketball? Yeah,
[2:11:46] Speaker 2: it's just good basketball. Just good basketball. It's good basketball.
[2:11:50] Speaker 2: Good competition. Yep.
[2:11:51] Speaker 1: I watch everybody. I watch a lot of them.
[2:11:53] Speaker 2: I watch Steve Nash.
[2:11:54] Speaker 1: No, we're not talking about nobody.
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: We're talking about this game. So we're talking about them
[2:11:58] Speaker 2: two players. Why did you watch it, then? Why did
[2:12:00] Speaker 2: you watch it? Because LeBron James. Why did you watch it?
[2:12:03] Speaker 2: Who was he playing against? LeBron James. Who was he
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: playing against? LaComar Lanty. I watched him play against Kobe Bryant.
[2:12:07] Speaker 2: I played against Kobe Bryant. I watched D-Rose. Put your
[2:12:10] Speaker 2: legs in first. You are.
[2:12:12] Speaker 1: You're not answering the question. You're not answering the question.
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: Why? Why you watching? You're not even asking why you watching.
[2:12:18] Speaker 2: Why you watching? LeBron James was on your team. I
[2:12:20] Speaker 2: said no, nigga. I said no. You're LeBron James. You
[2:12:23] Speaker 2: asked me. I said no. LeBron James is getting you
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: to the hump. You're finally going to be a champion.
[2:12:28] Speaker 2: Guess what? You would have been a champion. Hey, guess what?
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: You would have finally been a champion. Hey, guess what?
[2:12:31] Speaker 2: Hold on. We talking facts, right? We talking facts, right?
[2:12:34] Speaker 2: Hold on. We talking facts, right? Hold on. We talking facts, right?
[2:12:37] Speaker 1: Wait a second.
[2:12:41] Speaker 3: Wait a second. Who won the championship in 2012? They
[2:12:44] Speaker 3: went to the championship.
[2:12:45] Speaker 2: 2012? Yeah. 2012.
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: Cleveland went to the championship.
[2:12:49] Speaker 2: 2011 to 2012. Wasn't it Miami Heat? Miami Heat, right?
[2:12:53] Speaker 2: So guess what? What?
[2:12:54] Speaker 4: When I came from China, guess who had the opportunity
[2:12:56] Speaker 4: to join that Miami Heat team with that LeBron James?
[2:12:59] Speaker 2: Hold on, niggas. Facts. That's fine. You yelling and shit,
[2:13:02] Speaker 2: I'm giving you facts.
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: So you're talking about LeBron James would have got who
[2:13:05] Speaker 1: over the hump?
[2:13:06] Speaker 2: Y'all.
[2:13:06] Speaker 1: He would have got y'all over the hump. I had
[2:13:08] Speaker 1: the opportunity to join that Miami.
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: Heat team, but I didn't, nigga. That's business. These are facts.
[2:13:13] Speaker 2: But you should have done it. These are facts. Like
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: I said, why did you watch the games? Because I
[2:13:17] Speaker 2: love basketball. Just like I love every matchup. You watch
[2:13:19] Speaker 2: who plays? I watch a lot of matches.
[2:13:21] Speaker 1: Nigga, you weren't watching them up on Bowie Gibson. Listen,
[2:13:24] Speaker 1: I know one thing about LeBron James.
[2:13:26] Speaker 2: You ain't watching them, nigga. You ain't watching them. Sound good. Hey,
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: guess what? I got there without him. I got there
[2:13:32] Speaker 2: without him. I got there without him. Didn't need him.
[2:13:35] Speaker 2: Don't tell me to stop now. You said it. I
[2:13:37] Speaker 2: got some boots for y'all. I made some boots for y'all.
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: I went to show them that the team when Cleveland
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: went to the.
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: Championship And he's talking about the wins. I said, when
[2:14:00] Speaker 1: does these wins occur? Cleveland went to the championship. They
[2:14:05] Speaker 1: had to play Denver two times. What happened?
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: Denver, boot to ass.
[2:14:09] Speaker 1: Not a better team.
[2:14:09] Speaker 10: We need to establish that.
[2:14:11] Speaker 1: We talking about rivalries, though, Nick, not better teams. This
[2:14:14] Speaker 1: ain't no rivalry.
[2:14:15] Speaker 2: Boot to ass. This ain't no rivalry. Why y'all pass
[2:14:18] Speaker 2: on the note, Nick?
[2:14:19] Speaker 1: And LeBron scored more points than every game when they
[2:14:21] Speaker 1: played each other.
[2:14:22] Speaker 10: So that shit don't count. Appreciate everybody in the chat.
[2:14:26] Speaker 10: Appreciate everybody on this couch.
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: This has been another episode of Gills Arena. See you
[2:14:31] Speaker 2: all tomorrow.

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