# Kawhi Leonard's Secret Bag STUNS The Gil's Arena Crew

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 17 Oct 2025, 2 h 40 min.

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Kawhi Leonard's Secret Bag STUNS The Gil's Arena Crew as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the NBA's investigation into Kawhi Leonard's no show revealed this summer by Pablo Torre on the Pablo Torre finds out podcast and debate if Steve Balmer giving Kawhi some extra bread to circumnavigate the NBA Salary is a dirty move or just NBA business. They also break down the Los Angeles Clippers' offseason moves, debating if the team should be considered a legit NBA title contender if Kawhi & James Harden can stay healthy before discussing another powerhouse in the NBA's western conference in the Golden State Warriors and analyze if the Dubs' championship window is still open with Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and the newly re-signed Jonathan Kuminga leading the team. Next, they break down the NBA's most recent rule change that will benefit NBA sharpshooters like Steph Curry before highlighting one of the league's most interesting teams in the Dallas Mavericks and discuss how the team will utilize Cooper Flagg alongside a beefier looking Anthony Davis. Finally, they react to a seemingly productive offseason for Victor Wembanyama as the San Antonio Spurs young superstar was seen training all over the globe, debating if he will finally take the leap into the upper tier of NBA Superstars before whipping around the association to give their predictions before the 2025 NBA Season tips off. Please give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, Brandon Jennings & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and receive $15 off your first order. SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:56 Kawhi Leonard's Secret Bag 0:05:08 Expectations For The Clippers This Year 0:23:25 Kuminga Was ROBBED By Golden State 0:38:59 Are The Warriors Still Championship Threats? 1:03:38 NBA Rule Changes Help Sharpshooters 1:13:18 Anthony Davis Shows Up Thick 1:38:27 Cooper Flagg Running Point For The Mavs 1:50:04 Cooper Flagg Doesn't Know Rashad 2:14:10 LaMelo Ball & The Hornets Playoff Chances 2:22:52 Zion Williamson Is Poised For His Best Season Yet 2:28:02 MostlyFans 2:36:41 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Thursday here in the arena. How everybody feeling?
[0:09] Speaker 3: Fly.
[0:10] Speaker 1: Last day.
[0:11] Speaker 3: Looking fly. A broach, I believe.
[0:13] Speaker 1: A broach.
[0:17] Speaker 3: Not a roach.
[0:18] Speaker 1: What is it? Something light.
[0:20] Speaker 2: Something I cannot afford, but.
[0:24] Speaker 3: You see something on his shirt, it's a roach.
[0:29] Speaker 1: It's not a brooch. Damn fool. Ladies and gentlemen, we
[0:34] Speaker 1: are back. We are back. You flick it off? You
[0:36] Speaker 1: flick it off. That's all you do, you know.
[0:38] Speaker 3: You're my boy.
[0:39] Speaker 1: You're my boy. You're my boy. You're my boy.
[0:43] Speaker 2: This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. I'm merely a host,
[0:46] Speaker 2: Josiah Johnson. And as always, we got the legend Gilbert
[0:48] Speaker 2: Arenas here with us. Next again, we got NBA champion
[0:54] Speaker 2: of the world with his very own NBA champion of
[0:57] Speaker 2: the world, bobblehead Swaggy P, Nick Young.
[1:01] Speaker 4: See, mine is the only one that comes with that.
[1:04] Speaker 4: It's only in a certain amount of people that come
[1:06] Speaker 4: with it.
[1:08] Speaker 3: That's real?
[1:08] Speaker 1: I thought my shit fell off.
[1:10] Speaker 3: They didn't get those. They didn't get those.
[1:11] Speaker 1: They did get those. Are you crazy as hell?
[1:15] Speaker 3: Gildon got one, Swaggy?
[1:16] Speaker 1: Nah, nah. It's a basketball. He like this with a basketball.
[1:20] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:24] Speaker 2: Next is Swaggy. Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University. We
[1:27] Speaker 2: got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. And on this side of
[1:33] Speaker 2: the couch, we have the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff,
[1:35] Speaker 2: former number one pick, Canyon Martin, back here with us.
[1:42] Speaker 2: And last but not least, the man they call Championship
[1:45] Speaker 2: Charles money-making Sonny the dream killer amongst other things Cemetery
[1:50] Speaker 2: Larry Rashad McCann I Saw you in the Cooper flag
[1:58] Speaker 2: jersey yesterday. We will have some things to discuss relating
[2:01] Speaker 2: Cooper It's the familiarities or lack thereof with certain facets
[2:07] Speaker 2: of NBA history But here's what's cracking in Gil's arena
[2:11] Speaker 2: today The Warriors were stagnant this offseason waiting for Kaminga's
[2:15] Speaker 2: deal to get done. Do the Dubs have enough to
[2:18] Speaker 2: be competitive in the West this season? Wimby had a
[2:21] Speaker 2: productive offseason after his sophomore year was cut short by injury.
[2:25] Speaker 2: How much of a leap will the Spurs and their
[2:26] Speaker 2: franchise player take in year three?
[2:29] Speaker 3: And Dallas is.
[2:30] Speaker 2: Experimenting with number one pick Cooper Flagg running the one
[2:32] Speaker 2: this season while they wait for Kyrie to return. What's
[2:35] Speaker 2: the Mavs ceiling with or without Kyrie this season? But
[2:38] Speaker 2: before we get into all that, as always, this show
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[3:05] Speaker 2: talked about the Lakers yesterday. Let's talk about the other
[3:08] Speaker 2: team in Los Angeles. Clippers, one of the biggest stories
[3:11] Speaker 2: this offseason. after a bombshell report from respected journalist Pablo
[3:14] Speaker 2: Torre on his Pablo Torre Finds Out show. Torre is
[3:17] Speaker 2: alleging that Clippers owner Steve Ballmer circumvented the salary cap
[3:20] Speaker 2: by funneling bread to Kawhi through a partnership with a
[3:23] Speaker 2: green banking company called Aspiration. The crux of potential salary
[3:27] Speaker 2: cap circumvention is that Ballmer reportedly invested 50 million in
[3:31] Speaker 2: Aspiration in September 2021, with the Clippers agreeing to a
[3:35] Speaker 2: $ 300 million sponsorship deal with the company that same month.
[3:38] Speaker 2: In April 2022, Company allegedly gave Kawhi a four-year $ 28
[3:42] Speaker 2: million no-show sponsorship deal nine months after Kawhi signed an
[3:46] Speaker 2: extension with the Clippers.
[3:47] Speaker 3: God is good.
[3:47] Speaker 1: Getting paid not to work. Getting paid not to work,
[3:50] Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen.
[3:51] Speaker 2: So Ballmer has claimed he was scammed by the company,
[3:53] Speaker 2: did nothing wrong. League is investigating the situation but doesn't
[3:55] Speaker 2: expect to finish that investigation until after All-Star break, which
[3:59] Speaker 2: is mighty convenient considering Ballmer and the Clippers are hosting
[4:02] Speaker 2: All-Star weekend in Los Angeles this February. So Adam Silver
[4:05] Speaker 2: previously said he was unaware of aspirations before acknowledging he
[4:08] Speaker 2: was aware of the company. And recently it was reported
[4:11] Speaker 2: that the NBA vetted and approved the $ 300 million sponsorship
[4:14] Speaker 2: deal between the Clippers and Aspiration in 2021. So, I mean,
[4:19] Speaker 2: who don't like to get paid not to work? So
[4:21] Speaker 2: question for you fine gentlemen on this couch. Do you
[4:23] Speaker 2: guys have any issue with Ballmer allegedly giving Kawhi a
[4:25] Speaker 2: no-show job to put some extra bread in his pocket?
[4:29] Speaker 1: Man, we know who don't have a problem with it. Yeah,
[4:36] Speaker 1: I got amnesty. That's the same thing.
[4:38] Speaker 5: 66 million not to show up.
[4:40] Speaker 1: Damn. You know, sit on the couch. Oh, yeah.
[4:44] Speaker 5: Dame Leonard right now getting paid not to show up.
[4:47] Speaker 5: Dame got the 113.
[4:49] Speaker 1: I got a problem with it.
[4:51] Speaker 2: Mr. B, what's your problem with Kawhi getting bread under
[4:53] Speaker 2: the table, allegedly, for a no-show job?
[4:56] Speaker 1: Well, I have a problem with it coming out.
[4:58] Speaker 6: And I think the fact that, you know, you got
[5:00] Speaker 6: these small market teams that can't keep players and you
[5:03] Speaker 6: got this owner that's just buying players, basically. I know
[5:06] Speaker 6: it's been going on and happening, but it just shows
[5:09] Speaker 6: how corrupted the league could look like. I mean, you
[5:12] Speaker 6: already have trust issues with the NBA because of the
[5:14] Speaker 6: Donahue gambling thing. And now you've got an owner out
[5:17] Speaker 6: here just paying players under the table. It's kind of like, okay,
[5:20] Speaker 6: so this is what the.
[5:22] Speaker 3: League is about?
[5:23] Speaker 6: I mean, you already, like the fans already got trust issues.
[5:26] Speaker 6: Everybody already think it's already a scam and already think it's,
[5:29] Speaker 6: they already got their favorites. So it's like, this is
[5:31] Speaker 6: coming out again. The Clippers is on some bullshit again. Balmer,
[5:35] Speaker 6: the richest owner. I feel like, um, They're not doing nothing, though.
[5:39] Speaker 6: I feel like if they was winning, it'd be an issue,
[5:41] Speaker 6: but this Clippers is going to Clippers, so you're just
[5:44] Speaker 6: paying people just to pay people.
[5:46] Speaker 4: Just like a homie, huh, man? Here go $ 28 million
[5:50] Speaker 4: just to.
[5:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's getting... I don't mind it, but I'm
[5:53] Speaker 1: saying it's getting out. So now it's like... You mind
[5:56] Speaker 1: that it's getting out? Yeah, I just got a problem
[5:59] Speaker 1: with it getting out. Like, it's bad business.
[6:01] Speaker 6: Like, you're supposed to be this business guy, and you're
[6:03] Speaker 6: getting your business coming out like that.
[6:04] Speaker 1: It's kind of sloppy.
[6:05] Speaker 2: Well, aspiration filed for bankruptcy. Obviously, Pablo Torre spent.
[6:08] Speaker 1: That's all.
[6:09] Speaker 3: Hours and hours.
[6:10] Speaker 2: Researching, checked the bankruptcy filing, saw that Kawhi had a
[6:13] Speaker 2: company in there, KO2 Aspirations LLC, that was oaths and
[6:17] Speaker 2: bread that he did not receive.
[6:20] Speaker 5: I mean, that's like a side shit coming out on you, right?
[6:24] Speaker 5: It's not your fault she decided to come out, right?
[6:27] Speaker 5: I can't hold you accountable for that.
[6:29] Speaker 1: Um, You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like,
[6:32] Speaker 1: don't let it come.
[6:33] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[6:33] Speaker 1: When they be like, don't let it, I don't want
[6:35] Speaker 1: to see it in my face. Like, it wasn't in
[6:37] Speaker 1: your face. We was doing it behind your back. Right?
[6:40] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, we expect a
[6:43] Speaker 1: chick to say something. You know what I'm saying?
[6:45] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
[6:47] Speaker 1: Not all the time. Tell me what chick hold water.
[6:50] Speaker 4: Well, in my mind, sometimes you have to.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Have an honesty. I think my work is honest. But
[7:00] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they didn't do the deal for the
[7:02] Speaker 1: deal to come out. Your work is honest. Nah, yeah, sometimes.
[7:05] Speaker 1: They just forgot to erase the shit off that line, bro.
[7:08] Speaker 1: That's all. A lot of line items on there. There
[7:09] Speaker 1: was a lot of line items. They just forgot that one.
[7:12] Speaker 1: And they just, this dude who ain't got nothing that's
[7:15] Speaker 1: better to do with his time. Like, how bored you
[7:20] Speaker 1: got to be? No, no, no. This is what he do.
[7:23] Speaker 7: He finds out. He's a journalist. He do his job.
[7:27] Speaker 7: Very well. Pablo Torre finds out. He be finding shit out.
[7:32] Speaker 7: Go look a few places, too. Go look over there.
[7:35] Speaker 1: So he just decided to look at that or someone
[7:37] Speaker 1: told him to go look over there. At the end
[7:39] Speaker 1: of the day, it's this. I think somebody told him.
[7:41] Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's really about a
[7:43] Speaker 1: salary cap. A salary cap. is a way for the
[7:51] Speaker 1: broker owners to have a chance against the richer owners.
[7:56] Speaker 1: So they try to even the playing field by putting
[7:59] Speaker 1: this hard cap on and say, we all play under.
[8:02] Speaker 3: The same umbrella.
[8:04] Speaker 5: So if you make a million or you make a billion,
[8:07] Speaker 5: we all are eating at the same table. And someone
[8:12] Speaker 5: who's making more money, I don't want to eat at
[8:15] Speaker 5: your table.
[8:17] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's a first class for a reason, right?
[8:20] Speaker 1: There's first class.
[8:22] Speaker 5: Then there's some extra shit back there. I wouldn't know
[8:24] Speaker 5: because I don't sit back here. Then there's shit by
[8:26] Speaker 5: the door, the bathroom, right?
[8:30] Speaker 1: Deal with that. If I make way more money than you,
[8:33] Speaker 1: don't tell me how to spend it. So if I
[8:35] Speaker 1: want to secretly pay you under the table, I'm going
[8:38] Speaker 1: to do it.
[8:39] Speaker 6: Okay, so then if I want to go recruit other players,
[8:41] Speaker 6: then don't find me.
[8:43] Speaker 1: Nobody do it.
[8:44] Speaker 3: Don't find me.
[8:44] Speaker 5: Nobody.
[8:45] Speaker 1: Who does? They do find players. Do we want to
[8:48] Speaker 1: look into how Greek is staying over there and how
[8:50] Speaker 1: his brother getting paid? Come on. We funneling the money somehow.
[8:53] Speaker 3: Everybody's doing it.
[8:54] Speaker 1: Milwaukee ain't got no money. Because Milwaukee ain't got no
[8:57] Speaker 1: money to keep Greek over there. But Greek is staying there, happy, smiling.
[9:01] Speaker 1: I guarantee if they start looking in his portfolio, he
[9:04] Speaker 1: got buildings that he didn't pay for. But let it
[9:06] Speaker 1: be known, though, if you're going to do this.
[9:09] Speaker 6: Because we got to let it be known with everything else.
[9:11] Speaker 3: It's been going on for years, man.
[9:13] Speaker 1: Legacy.
[9:14] Speaker 3: Come on, man.
[9:14] Speaker 1: This is business. Yeah, but it's getting out there, though.
[9:16] Speaker 1: So now this is another issue.
[9:18] Speaker 3: Come on. Hey, there's me.
[9:19] Speaker 5: All right.
[9:19] Speaker 1: Hey. Okay.
[9:20] Speaker 5: Hey, all them boys over in Golden State, I'm pretty
[9:24] Speaker 5: sure they got a lot of investments that they didn't
[9:27] Speaker 5: know nothing about.
[9:28] Speaker 1: We don't know about it. They don't know about it.
[9:30] Speaker 1: But we don't know about it. They don't have their
[9:32] Speaker 1: money in real things.
[9:34] Speaker 3: I believe it.
[9:35] Speaker 1: That's what happens. I mean, yeah, when you're winning, that's
[9:38] Speaker 1: what happens.
[9:38] Speaker 5: But I said, I can't pay you because of this
[9:40] Speaker 5: salary cap. But look, my boy's starting up a company.
[9:43] Speaker 5: It's about to go rust today.
[9:45] Speaker 3: Put some money in.
[9:45] Speaker 1: I'm not mad about that.
[9:46] Speaker 3: Boom, you're going to blow.
[9:47] Speaker 1: I'm not mad about that, but why are you letting
[9:48] Speaker 1: it get out? It's not like he let it get out.
[9:50] Speaker 1: It got out.
[9:50] Speaker 8: You got too much money to let. Paul George told.
[9:55] Speaker 8: Let's shift over to this side, Cemetery Larry. Tell me
[9:58] Speaker 8: how to spend my money. I like the jacket, too.
[10:01] Speaker 8: I just want you to know.
[10:02] Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man. I know too much about this shit.
[10:04] Speaker 1: I know way too much.
[10:05] Speaker 2: Can you say what you feel comfortable and safe saying without?
[10:09] Speaker 1: We did, what, collective bargaining agreement twice already? 2000, no, 1999.
[10:14] Speaker 1: There's been a few.
[10:16] Speaker 3: I think we're in the midst of it.
[10:17] Speaker 1: 2011. Mm-hmm.
[10:20] Speaker 5: These things happen to balance the sheets for all the owners.
[10:27] Speaker 5: And then when they kicked Donald Sterling out, they paid
[10:31] Speaker 5: him how much money?
[10:31] Speaker 2: $ 2 billion, I believe, the team and so forth. He
[10:33] Speaker 2: got 1.2 of that, if I'm not mistaken. Some people
[10:36] Speaker 2: believe that was overpriced. So when you overprice a sale
[10:40] Speaker 2: for somebody who has unlimited money and come in, it's
[10:44] Speaker 2: an unfair playing field now. So now everybody can ramp
[10:49] Speaker 2: up their sheets based on where he starts.
[10:52] Speaker 5: He's up here. Everybody else is down here. Who's the
[10:55] Speaker 5: only one that can play unfair?
[10:58] Speaker 1: Him.
[10:59] Speaker 5: So what's come out is he's been playing unfair because
[11:04] Speaker 5: he overpaid for a franchise. $ 10 billion for the Lakers.
[11:10] Speaker 1: Is that overpriced? Barely. So now the Lakers can potentially...
[11:18] Speaker 1: do what.
[11:18] Speaker 5: They need to do to make moves because the cap
[11:21] Speaker 5: goes up for certain guys. So it's like Pablo finally
[11:25] Speaker 5: found out that it's... He found out. He found out
[11:30] Speaker 5: that some shit was going on with the leverage of
[11:34] Speaker 5: the playing field, like you said. If we're going to
[11:36] Speaker 5: play fair, there's going to be another collective bargaining agreement.
[11:40] Speaker 5: Everybody's going to go back to the drawing board and
[11:42] Speaker 5: figure out, hey, man, how is he being able to
[11:44] Speaker 5: do this with them?
[11:46] Speaker 1: And we're not.
[11:47] Speaker 5: That's all the difference is. It's just numbers and dummies
[11:50] Speaker 5: that don't want to read the numbers and figure out
[11:53] Speaker 5: what's really going on. Bombers feels like he's smarter than
[11:57] Speaker 5: other people. Who jumped out in front of Bomber to.
[12:00] Speaker 3: Say, hey, hey, hey, hey, guys.
[12:02] Speaker 1: The other person that was doing it.
[12:03] Speaker 5: Mark Cuban stepped in trying to stop shit. Pablo crushed him, too. Mark,
[12:09] Speaker 5: we know what you was doing, too, in 2011. Trying
[12:12] Speaker 5: to balance the motherfucking books after winning the championship and
[12:15] Speaker 5: not bringing none of them players back. to win another one.
[12:20] Speaker 5: But nobody found none of this shit out, so nobody
[12:22] Speaker 5: really fucking cares. But now that they found it out,
[12:26] Speaker 5: God should care. Not even about Kawhi getting money under
[12:29] Speaker 5: the table, because we talked about this on Iman's podcast,
[12:34] Speaker 5: Joe Smith, when Timberwolves, when he was supposed to get
[12:37] Speaker 5: that money from them, they crushed him.
[12:40] Speaker 1: Timberwolves paid for that. So now we're.
[12:42] Speaker 5: Looking at a situation where we're going to continue this trend?
[12:46] Speaker 5: If I'm the Bucks, I'm trying to figure out how
[12:48] Speaker 5: I can get... If I'm New York, if I'm... Everybody's
[12:52] Speaker 5: trying to figure out.
[12:53] Speaker 2: Pablo and the Mets are finding out about Brunson's deal
[12:55] Speaker 2: with the Mets.
[12:56] Speaker 6: Could this bring an issue, though? Like another lockout or something?
[12:59] Speaker 6: Like if people are finding out that, okay, well, this
[13:01] Speaker 6: is what they're doing?
[13:02] Speaker 1: Okay.
[13:04] Speaker 3: Adam Silver works for who?
[13:05] Speaker 1: The owners.
[13:07] Speaker 3: The owners?
[13:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, the owners.
[13:08] Speaker 3: So if we all doing it, are you really going
[13:12] Speaker 3: to find something out?
[13:14] Speaker 5: In February come, are you going to find out that
[13:16] Speaker 5: I'm doing something wrong?
[13:18] Speaker 1: No. You're Rich's owner. I'm the Rich's owner.
[13:22] Speaker 5: You're really going to find out if I did something wrong.
[13:25] Speaker 5: And then you got New York over there sitting here like,
[13:29] Speaker 5: so what you going to do, boss?
[13:30] Speaker 3: You going to look at us next?
[13:31] Speaker 5: You got Mickey over in Miami sitting there like, yeah,
[13:35] Speaker 5: what you over there doing?
[13:37] Speaker 1: Mickey ain't even did nothing yet. He think about doing
[13:39] Speaker 1: some shit. Remember, there was a Lamar James, and there was.
[13:42] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[13:42] Speaker 1: I mean, they got billboard. They got everything that they needed.
[13:46] Speaker 3: It happens, right?
[13:48] Speaker 1: It's not something that nobody else in that sport has
[13:53] Speaker 1: tried to keep their team, right? There's a salary cap
[13:57] Speaker 1: that's a handicap to some people, and.
[13:59] Speaker 3: They got to try to figure out around it.
[14:01] Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at football, if you go back,
[14:03] Speaker 1: San Francisco– San Francisco 49ers winning all those championships in
[14:07] Speaker 1: the 90s?
[14:07] Speaker 3: That's what they were doing. Deferring money?
[14:10] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to owe you eight when you retire
[14:12] Speaker 5: and then pay you.
[14:14] Speaker 3: That's all they're doing.
[14:15] Speaker 1: I mean, some players are right now still getting paid
[14:17] Speaker 1: that people don't know about because of the salary cap that, yo,
[14:21] Speaker 1: I want to pay you all your money.
[14:23] Speaker 3: But we're going to show this much on the books.
[14:25] Speaker 3: We're going to show this much off just to keep
[14:27] Speaker 3: our team.
[14:27] Speaker 1: What just happened, though? The Boston Celtics won a championship
[14:32] Speaker 1: and did what? Cut everybody. Nobody ask no questions about why. Period.
[14:41] Speaker 5: But when you're trying to balance the books of what?
[14:43] Speaker 5: Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown. You look at the Luka situation.
[14:48] Speaker 5: Mark drops out, but then they get rid of Luka
[14:51] Speaker 5: because who don't want.
[14:51] Speaker 1: To pay that tab? That's a lot. And we want
[14:55] Speaker 1: to pay who? Kyrie? All this shit makes sense if.
[14:59] Speaker 5: You look a little deeper and you see that the
[15:01] Speaker 5: business side of it all is about numbers and books
[15:05] Speaker 5: and checks and balances. And us players really don't want
[15:09] Speaker 5: to go down that far of the rabbit hole because
[15:11] Speaker 5: it becomes Chinese to us because we're not understanding what
[15:15] Speaker 5: they're doing on the backside. That's why I say when
[15:17] Speaker 5: Mark Cuban come out, he flag signaling to all the
[15:21] Speaker 5: other owners, you better get y'all shit together because they're
[15:23] Speaker 5: coming to check your books next. Get your shit right.
[15:26] Speaker 5: Checks and balances. But it ain't, I mean, from their side,
[15:29] Speaker 5: it ain't bad because it's business. But if we're looking
[15:32] Speaker 5: from it, From an outside standpoint, we're looking like, oh, man,
[15:36] Speaker 5: could they pay Kawhi to do this? And he came
[15:38] Speaker 5: over here. It looked crazy. It looked crazy, but it's
[15:43] Speaker 5: just what it is. So we asked the chat, you
[15:44] Speaker 5: work for me, you get fired. We asked the chat
[15:46] Speaker 5: if they had a problem with Kawhi getting bread under
[15:48] Speaker 5: the table. 60% of the chat said no. Yeah, it's
[15:51] Speaker 5: no problem.
[15:52] Speaker 3: Because we all want to get paid under the table.
[15:53] Speaker 1: It's just coming out.
[15:54] Speaker 3: Over, under, on the side?
[15:56] Speaker 1: Huh? I don't know. Is he getting paid under the table?
[16:05] Speaker 5: If Kawhi's saying, I showed up and I did all
[16:08] Speaker 5: this shit, is it under the table?
[16:12] Speaker 1: Or is it just a separate deal? No, nothing about it. Look,
[16:15] Speaker 1: because you said it. He got 28 million to come
[16:18] Speaker 1: sit in the chair.
[16:19] Speaker 5: You called it out before it all happened. Before they
[16:21] Speaker 5: all called it out, you said it.
[16:24] Speaker 1: What I would do. This is what I would do. Verbatim,
[16:27] Speaker 1: it was perfect. Right? So I was like, God damn,
[16:29] Speaker 1: this nigga's on top of that shit like that.
[16:32] Speaker 5: Like, what? But it made sense. It made perfect sense. Like,
[16:35] Speaker 5: if I'm going to be able to do it, because
[16:37] Speaker 5: that was a part of the new, was it the
[16:38] Speaker 5: new rule? Something happened where you could.
[16:41] Speaker 1: Second apron. The second apron, you could potentially do some
[16:43] Speaker 1: shit like that.
[16:44] Speaker 3: Players could invest in the league, and there's a bunch
[16:45] Speaker 3: of different options.
[16:46] Speaker 5: So if it's no show, and then he not playing
[16:49] Speaker 5: for 20-something games, and then all of a sudden his
[16:51] Speaker 5: payment late, he all of a sudden get paid, and
[16:54] Speaker 5: then pop up, he in the lineup. That's some different shit.
[16:58] Speaker 5: You not playing, and then you all of a sudden
[17:00] Speaker 5: playing when you get paid. That's different, because now that's
[17:03] Speaker 5: affecting the team, that's affecting our record, that's affecting the playoffs,
[17:07] Speaker 5: based on you doing the under-the-table deal.
[17:10] Speaker 1: So you think he over-depends? Playing in the NBA like
[17:13] Speaker 1: he playing in Europe. Listen, I ain't playing until you
[17:15] Speaker 1: pay me. But that's what the find is. On my
[17:19] Speaker 1: side deal.
[17:19] Speaker 5: The find is look like. That's what the find is
[17:21] Speaker 5: panned out to look like. He played a week later
[17:24] Speaker 5: after he got beat. That's why I said the news
[17:27] Speaker 5: coming out. So he's holding out.
[17:29] Speaker 1: In the NBA game on a side deal. On a
[17:31] Speaker 1: side deal. On a side deal.
[17:33] Speaker 3: Like, no, man.
[17:34] Speaker 1: That's crazy.
[17:35] Speaker 3: Why is a man a principal?
[17:36] Speaker 2: Can't he get my money?
[17:39] Speaker 1: Straight up.
[17:40] Speaker 3: It's only big markets.
[17:42] Speaker 1: You're talking about big markets who are trying to win championships.
[17:45] Speaker 1: You're not talking about Charlotte and Detroit Pistons and stuff
[17:51] Speaker 1: like that. Memphis SAC, they don't have no reason to
[18:00] Speaker 1: try to keep these players and do these deals.
[18:02] Speaker 5: You're talking about real big cities, L.A., New York, Chicago, Dallas, Miami.
[18:12] Speaker 5: You're talking about teams that I need this player, but
[18:16] Speaker 5: he's going to push me over the salary cap, but
[18:18] Speaker 5: he's worth all of it.
[18:19] Speaker 1: I don't want to see him leave, so I'm going
[18:20] Speaker 1: to make a side deal with him. Right?
[18:23] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, he asking for 100. And he signed back
[18:26] Speaker 5: for 60.
[18:27] Speaker 1: If you think he just took a $ 40 million pay
[18:31] Speaker 1: cut to come play for... No! I had to make
[18:37] Speaker 1: sure he got his bread some other way. So, Bronson?
[18:41] Speaker 1: Look at me like that. So, Bronson, I'm just saying.
[18:46] Speaker 3: Okay, cool. You think a nigga turned down $ 300 million
[18:48] Speaker 3: and signed for 120-something?
[18:49] Speaker 1: All right. Okay. Okay. Okay.
[18:56] Speaker 5: Okay.
[18:57] Speaker 1: Especially coming from an owner who just pays everybody.
[18:59] Speaker 4: I'm putting cases on all of you. So what happens
[19:06] Speaker 4: if the Clippers get in trouble though? If they get
[19:08] Speaker 4: found guilty or some shit? He gets shaved.
[19:11] Speaker 3: Draft picks.
[19:12] Speaker 1: Draft picks.
[19:13] Speaker 2: They may get fined some draft picks.
[19:15] Speaker 1: Fine draft picks.
[19:16] Speaker 3: Some draft picks and just bad karma still.
[19:18] Speaker 1: Shay.
[19:19] Speaker 2: My guess is with this investigation likely going past All-Star weekend,
[19:22] Speaker 2: they're going to kind of wait until after.
[19:23] Speaker 1: They're going to have to do something. Shay got traded
[19:25] Speaker 1: in 2019. I thought that was all a part of it. Nah.
[19:29] Speaker 1: You got to do something. It ain't going to be
[19:31] Speaker 1: like that. Well, they trying to make it part of it. No,
[19:34] Speaker 1: that was internet stuff trying to pretend that this happened
[19:37] Speaker 1: for this trade.
[19:39] Speaker 3: This was a second deal. That was a PG deal.
[19:41] Speaker 5: Don't smack you on the wrist.
[19:42] Speaker 1: I wanted Shea back. Don't smack you on the wrist.
[19:45] Speaker 3: I want Shea back.
[19:46] Speaker 1: Come back to LA. You can't get Shea back.
[19:47] Speaker 2: Swagger, we cannot get Shea back at this point. Why
[19:49] Speaker 2: would Shea want to be back? Think about it. He
[19:51] Speaker 2: won an MVP.
[19:51] Speaker 1: Are you going to take the MVP away from him?
[19:52] Speaker 1: Are you going to take the championship away? All of
[19:54] Speaker 1: this is in a void? Yeah, you come on back.
[20:01] Speaker 1: Now he benefits. You come on back, take your ass
[20:04] Speaker 1: back to Toronto. Now you got to move the whole NBA.
[20:07] Speaker 5: Again and then say, Indiana, y'all really won the championship
[20:10] Speaker 5: because they was uninvited.
[20:12] Speaker 3: Obama, shit.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Nah, it's going to be this look suspect. We're just
[20:17] Speaker 1: going to fine y'all. We're going to keep our eye
[20:19] Speaker 1: on y'all. Y'all going to be on probation.
[20:20] Speaker 5: They don't never have no high draft picks no fucking way,
[20:23] Speaker 5: so we don't.
[20:24] Speaker 1: Have nothing to... Hey, listen.
[20:28] Speaker 5: Every time we've heard In the media. Just so you
[20:31] Speaker 5: can see how the NBA works.
[20:32] Speaker 1: We heard somebody getting called at the airport plenty of
[20:35] Speaker 1: times with marijuana.
[20:39] Speaker 3: Paraphernalia.
[20:40] Speaker 5: Never heard not one drug test being positive on that
[20:45] Speaker 5: same person. All them drug tests they do after 60
[20:49] Speaker 5: and 70 points. Ain't not one of them been tested
[20:53] Speaker 5: high or nothing. They're not doing... Listen, they're not doing nothing.
[20:56] Speaker 5: They're not making their league look bad.
[20:58] Speaker 3: It's the NBA. This is not football.
[21:00] Speaker 1: The football is an NFL brand. They don't care about
[21:03] Speaker 1: the players. The NBA players run the league, so they're
[21:06] Speaker 1: not going to sit there and try to trip a
[21:09] Speaker 1: player up because it makes them look bad, so... Well,
[21:11] Speaker 1: we know that. They could be slanging it, too, though.
[21:15] Speaker 4: You don't have to smoke it. You could be slanging
[21:18] Speaker 4: it if you get caught, too.
[21:20] Speaker 2: That's... Now let's get to the basketball side of things.
[21:23] Speaker 2: I don't be smoking this shit. Clippers finished fifth in
[21:29] Speaker 2: the West. They were 50-32, same record as the Lakers
[21:31] Speaker 2: and Nuggets, but lost that tiebreaker. Ended up losing to
[21:34] Speaker 2: the Nuggets in the first round of seven games. Rehab
[21:36] Speaker 2: Harden with a two-year extension. Built around their big three
[21:39] Speaker 2: this offseason. Surrounded Kawhi Harden and Zubach with a solid
[21:42] Speaker 2: supporting cast. They traded Norm Powell to get John Collins.
[21:46] Speaker 2: Also signed Bradley Beal, Brooke Lopez, and CP3. So when
[21:50] Speaker 2: you look at this Clippers team on paper heading into
[21:51] Speaker 2: this season, how would you grade the Clippers off-season moves?
[21:54] Speaker 3: Kane, we'll start with you.
[21:55] Speaker 1: AARP.
[21:58] Speaker 3: AARP.
[21:59] Speaker 1: Fucking Social Security. Damn. Veterans. The vets. The unction.
[22:08] Speaker 5: 40-year-old, a 37-year-old, another 37-year-old, a 36-year-old, a 35-year-old.
[22:14] Speaker 1: Listen, bruh. The last day. We definitely can get some
[22:18] Speaker 1: burn with the Clippers.
[22:21] Speaker 2: So how you feeling about this squad? A lot of
[22:23] Speaker 2: people seem to be very excited about this team. Obviously
[22:25] Speaker 2: Kawhi is kind of the X factor if he can
[22:28] Speaker 2: play this season to shift it. But you got Zubac
[22:32] Speaker 2: who's stepping into an important role. Harden who balled out
[22:35] Speaker 2: last season in Kawhi's absence.
[22:39] Speaker 1: Do they understand how fast the NBA is now? Like,
[22:43] Speaker 1: I don't, like, this is real. Do they not realize, like,
[22:47] Speaker 1: at that one, two, three position, what this NBA has become? Listen, man. Like, dude,
[22:55] Speaker 1: it's athleticism built on top of speed, strength, and more
[23:00] Speaker 1: athleticism and speed.
[23:02] Speaker 5: Like, dude, y'all just getting older. Like, that shit, like, okay,
[23:08] Speaker 5: but yeah. I think it's everybody's last dance. I mean,
[23:11] Speaker 5: it's Ty, Ty don't lose last dance. It's James Harden's
[23:15] Speaker 5: last dance. It's CP three's last dance. And we talking
[23:19] Speaker 5: about just in LA with the Clippers, like they got
[23:22] Speaker 5: to blow this up after this. It don't make sense
[23:24] Speaker 5: to keep it around just for the sake of, you know,
[23:29] Speaker 5: the nostalgia of old players playing together and trying to
[23:32] Speaker 5: get it together. I think we've seen the CP in
[23:34] Speaker 5: LA before. I think he's trying to just ride this
[23:37] Speaker 5: wave on out. Um, James Harden is still trying to
[23:41] Speaker 5: find out if he can still run a team fully
[23:45] Speaker 5: and then try to play backseat to Kawhi whether or
[23:49] Speaker 5: not he's going to play the full season or not.
[23:52] Speaker 1: And then you still got Zubac.
[23:55] Speaker 5: I mean, he played well, but to have him still
[23:58] Speaker 5: there after all these years with nobody to really have
[24:01] Speaker 5: his back and play off of him, It's just difficult
[24:06] Speaker 5: to see that. Brooke Lopez comes in and they think
[24:10] Speaker 5: that that's going to be a changer. I just don't
[24:15] Speaker 5: see that being a mover. It's not moving the needle
[24:18] Speaker 5: for them. They're slower.
[24:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Clippers got an old starting five.
[24:22] Speaker 2: I think the world has the oldest starting five potentially
[24:24] Speaker 2: heading into this season. But still have Steph playing at
[24:26] Speaker 2: a high level. I don't see it.
[24:28] Speaker 3: Y'all not rolling with this clip? I'm rolling, man.
[24:30] Speaker 1: How often do they stay healthy, all of these guys?
[24:32] Speaker 1: And then where do John Collins fit in in this play?
[24:34] Speaker 1: Because he's aggressive offensively, so where does he fit in
[24:36] Speaker 1: this fray at? Eat it off the glass. Eat it
[24:40] Speaker 1: off the glass. So James plays slow, then you put
[24:44] Speaker 1: CP in, and he's going to play slower. Slower. Like,
[24:47] Speaker 1: that shit... But think about the West, though. It's a
[24:51] Speaker 1: lot of old motherfuckers in the West, too. Who? The
[24:53] Speaker 1: motherfuckers that won at average last year. You know the
[24:56] Speaker 1: team that won at last year, right? 23 years old. 23,
[24:58] Speaker 1: you know the team. You got the Warriors. They're not
[25:01] Speaker 1: a threat. They're not a threat in this. They're not
[25:04] Speaker 1: a threat in this. Houston younger than them. OKC younger
[25:07] Speaker 1: than them. Minnesota younger than them.
[25:10] Speaker 9: San Antonio younger than him Sacramento younger than him like.
[25:18] Speaker 4: You know, I got some old motherfuckers they younger than
[25:22] Speaker 4: the clip a Couple.
[25:24] Speaker 1: Old this whole team is old whole team. Oh, like
[25:28] Speaker 1: Katie is old Nick is still on there starting line.
[25:35] Speaker 1: The trainer is old.
[25:36] Speaker 5: You know the trainer has been there for like 38 years.
[25:40] Speaker 1: 39, 40, 47, 45, 45, 47. I swear to God.
[25:42] Speaker 1: I'm not saying these guys can't play basketball, but this
[25:52] Speaker 1: NBA is getting younger and faster and more athletic.
[25:55] Speaker 4: You can't have all y'all collectively on one team. That
[25:57] Speaker 4: don't always mean that shooting fast threes is good. Who
[26:00] Speaker 4: says shooting fast threes?
[26:01] Speaker 1: That's what all they do. I said plan fast, Nick.
[26:04] Speaker 1: I said plan fast. So you don't hear what you
[26:05] Speaker 1: want to hear. But they're playing fast.
[26:06] Speaker 4: They're playing fast and they're running fast. All right, so
[26:10] Speaker 4: what is the new NBA? Playing fast, shooting three.
[26:12] Speaker 1: Quick shot. I know what you're saying. I hear you.
[26:14] Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
[26:16] Speaker 1: And James Harden, when he was leading the league in scoring,
[26:20] Speaker 1: was he known to be able to stay in front
[26:22] Speaker 1: of anybody? Then? No. So what you think this James
[26:28] Speaker 1: Harden is going to do in front of him? That's
[26:29] Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
[26:31] Speaker 4: Yes, I hear you, yes. Listen, bro, it ain't just...
[26:36] Speaker 4: I know what you're saying is slow down, but... That
[26:39] Speaker 4: shit ain't going to work, bro.
[26:40] Speaker 1: So you're going to do that shit in the regular season,
[26:42] Speaker 1: you're going to be a 7th seed, 8th seed fighting
[26:44] Speaker 1: to get in. Because if everybody stay healthy, regular season,
[26:49] Speaker 1: them dudes don't care about the regular season. You got
[26:51] Speaker 1: three dudes over there that doesn't really care about the
[26:53] Speaker 1: regular season. And them young dudes, Zubac, John Collins....
[26:58] Speaker 3: And shit. You got Boggy Boggy?
[27:00] Speaker 1: Okay. He 30. Derek Jones.
[27:02] Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, if I come down making smart
[27:05] Speaker 4: plays and you coming down shooting the ball fast, I'm
[27:08] Speaker 4: putting my.
[27:08] Speaker 3: But the tempo.
[27:09] Speaker 1: I'm going to take my three possessions versus your one. Yeah.
[27:13] Speaker 2: But does that shift at all in the postseason? Game
[27:15] Speaker 2: slows down? It helps him in the postseason. It helps him,
[27:17] Speaker 2: but you got to get there first.
[27:19] Speaker 3: That's fair.
[27:19] Speaker 6: If this Clipper team was put together five or seven
[27:21] Speaker 6: years ago, I would say they have a.
[27:23] Speaker 1: Shit. Like a... I had a team five or seven
[27:26] Speaker 1: years ago, B. What? To make the clip, play in
[27:29] Speaker 1: the clip five, seven years ago.
[27:30] Speaker 3: No, no, no.
[27:30] Speaker 1: I'm talking about this team would be a contender.
[27:32] Speaker 6: Like if this team, if five, seven years ago, but
[27:35] Speaker 6: you know, James Harden, he was fifth in minutes last year.
[27:38] Speaker 3: Yep.
[27:38] Speaker 6: So I don't know if he can do that again.
[27:40] Speaker 6: Like he just said, CP on his last leg, Brooke Lopez.
[27:42] Speaker 6: We saw him last year on a drop coverage. That's
[27:44] Speaker 6: why we were getting killed with them corner threes. Um,
[27:48] Speaker 6: And the Clippers is just a bad organization. It's a
[27:50] Speaker 6: bad organization.
[27:51] Speaker 1: They break bread under the table, though. Chris Paul don't
[27:53] Speaker 1: have to play 40 minutes. Chris Paul is one leg
[27:57] Speaker 1: in and one leg out. All the time. He had
[28:01] Speaker 1: 10 assists last night in 18 minutes. What did that
[28:05] Speaker 1: take away from James? James had three assists. And you
[28:08] Speaker 1: can't play them together. James is in love. Y'all forgot,
[28:10] Speaker 1: James settled down.
[28:11] Speaker 3: He ain't in the club every night.
[28:13] Speaker 5: So he's in love.
[28:14] Speaker 4: So he out there staying home. We ain't seen any
[28:18] Speaker 4: love James yet.
[28:20] Speaker 1: He was top five in minutes last year. But he's
[28:22] Speaker 1: in love now. He's saving his life.
[28:23] Speaker 3: He's in love now.
[28:25] Speaker 1: They love going to be taking them legs. Watching Love Island.
[28:28] Speaker 1: Ain't white telling. He's not in the club. He's at home.
[28:33] Speaker 3: He's watching back.
[28:34] Speaker 1: Them dudes have built some over time. Bradley Beal over
[28:37] Speaker 1: there too. They've built some over time, right?
[28:40] Speaker 3: Yes.
[28:40] Speaker 1: But I'm just, I look at the landscape of the league.
[28:43] Speaker 1: The team that won it last year, I look at Minnesota,
[28:45] Speaker 1: I look at where San Antonio headed, I look at
[28:47] Speaker 1: them dudes, where Denver still is. I can't see them,
[28:52] Speaker 1: Kawhi's still him. Yeah. But after that. Attack.
[28:57] Speaker 5: We're attacking them all game long. Kawhi is still him.
[29:00] Speaker 5: But after that. They old ass.
[29:02] Speaker 1: Lopez is hard enough to win? We saw that last year.
[29:05] Speaker 1: Not like he was. Attack his ass. Attack Brook Lopez. Yeah.
[29:07] Speaker 5: Kawhi is still first. Second team all NBA, bro. Yeah,
[29:10] Speaker 5: there's going to be a couple. This is a couple
[29:12] Speaker 5: matchups that they'll have a problem.
[29:13] Speaker 3: Harden third team all year.
[29:16] Speaker 2: When carrying, I get it, when carrying the love for
[29:18] Speaker 2: Kawhi in 37 games.
[29:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yes, he deserved that. Yeah, absolutely. I get it.
[29:23] Speaker 1: I understand. Usually you come.
[29:25] Speaker 5: Off the bench with younger guys, right? The fact that
[29:29] Speaker 5: they're coming off the bench with older guys. Like, you're older.
[29:33] Speaker 5: You got a 40-year-old coming off your bench, a 37-year-old
[29:35] Speaker 5: coming off your bench, a 37-year-old coming off your bench.
[29:36] Speaker 3: Batum, CP.
[29:40] Speaker 5: But you also got Boggy Boggy. And CP coming up. 37, 37, 40.
[29:44] Speaker 1: Coming off the bench with a young guy. Like, so,
[29:46] Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I mean, it all depends.
[29:53] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. No, what I'm saying is it
[29:55] Speaker 1: all depends on how. The Lakers are better.
[29:57] Speaker 2: It all depends on how it's played.
[29:59] Speaker 1: The Lakers are pretty trash. You know, it depends. They
[30:01] Speaker 1: got to have some young guys that can push. The
[30:03] Speaker 1: Clippers are trash. No, they're not. They're not trash, bro.
[30:07] Speaker 5: But you got Bradley Beal who's going to basically.
[30:08] Speaker 1: Try to defend.
[30:09] Speaker 3: They're going to use him to defend everybody.
[30:11] Speaker 5: That's the one name I fucking forgot. We always forget about.
[30:15] Speaker 5: So if you look at their projected starting five, it's Harden, Beal, Kawhi.
[30:19] Speaker 3: John Collins, Zuboff.
[30:20] Speaker 1: Come on, man.
[30:21] Speaker 3: So, basically, John.
[30:22] Speaker 1: In order to find him. Because John Collins... John Collins
[30:25] Speaker 1: and Bill is young enough to do most of the
[30:27] Speaker 1: defensive things for Kawhi and James when they play those
[30:31] Speaker 1: very fast hybrid guys. So, what's the starting lineup for
[30:35] Speaker 1: them niggas?
[30:36] Speaker 3: He just said potential. That was the potential starting lineup.
[30:39] Speaker 1: So, basically, they'll run... So John Collins is going to
[30:44] Speaker 1: be the second wide. So basically, James Harden is going
[30:49] Speaker 1: to conserve a lot of energy and try to get
[30:51] Speaker 1: the 13-14 assist and let Collins and Kawhi do their
[30:54] Speaker 1: thing and Bradley be able to play more defense. The
[30:57] Speaker 1: problem is, if you're trying to put CP, Baton... and
[31:02] Speaker 1: Lopez in.
[31:02] Speaker 5: The game while other teams is coming up with young
[31:05] Speaker 5: guys just getting.
[31:06] Speaker 3: Up and down, that could be a problem.
[31:08] Speaker 1: Here's my problem.
[31:09] Speaker 3: So they might have to play small ball.
[31:11] Speaker 1: It ain't eight teams in the NBA better than that lineup.
[31:14] Speaker 1: Here's my problem. I said sub. They're going to be
[31:17] Speaker 1: fighting for the win. That's a solid starting five. You
[31:21] Speaker 1: said team, though.
[31:24] Speaker 10: I said better than that lineup.
[31:26] Speaker 1: No, you said better than that lineup.
[31:29] Speaker 3: I said 18 is better than that lineup.
[31:30] Speaker 1: That's a solid starting five.
[31:32] Speaker 3: That's a good start.
[31:33] Speaker 1: 18 is in the NBA? Better than that starting five.
[31:35] Speaker 5: What were they asking Bradley Beal to do last year
[31:38] Speaker 5: with the Suns? They was asking him to play more defense.
[31:43] Speaker 1: No.
[31:43] Speaker 3: He was a defender.
[31:45] Speaker 1: Same role.
[31:46] Speaker 3: Drew Holliday? Same role.
[31:49] Speaker 1: Same role.
[31:50] Speaker 5: And they was like, we can't find out where to
[31:53] Speaker 5: acclimate you at. Just go out there and be our defender.
[31:56] Speaker 5: We don't have a defender. It's Kevin Durant, Booker. You're
[32:00] Speaker 5: the one that can play defense. Let's see what you
[32:02] Speaker 5: can do to offset this. Like, we got firepower.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Cool. You go to the Clippers.
[32:07] Speaker 5: You accept this role as being a defender now. When
[32:13] Speaker 5: you got Kawhi Leonard, who is a defender, how does
[32:17] Speaker 5: it look for Bradley Beal not to be like Norm Powell?
[32:21] Speaker 5: How's it going to benefit the Clippers? If you not
[32:24] Speaker 5: coming out with the firepower, I wouldn't start Bradley Bill. Oh,
[32:27] Speaker 5: here you go. I would bring him off the bench
[32:30] Speaker 5: and let him be himself. Let him be Brad that
[32:33] Speaker 5: can come out. So who you got coming off the
[32:35] Speaker 5: bench that's giving you firepower?
[32:38] Speaker 3: Bogey, bogey. Bogey, bogey.
[32:40] Speaker 1: Bogey, bogey.
[32:41] Speaker 5: So which one would you rather have to give you
[32:44] Speaker 5: firepower off the bench?
[32:45] Speaker 3: Who you have in the starting line-up that'll give you firepower?
[32:48] Speaker 1: You got James Harden and Kawhi Leonard.
[32:50] Speaker 9: Old.
[32:52] Speaker 3: So you're going to play them 40 minutes?
[32:54] Speaker 5: Well, you already have a formula that's been there for
[32:58] Speaker 5: three years. It's a three-year formula.
[33:01] Speaker 1: And you can't take away Zubat.
[33:02] Speaker 5: So you're saying Harden, Kawhi, and Zubat with a young
[33:07] Speaker 5: John Collins and you throw somebody else like a Derrick
[33:10] Speaker 5: Jones or a Boggy in there to play your defense
[33:14] Speaker 5: and let Bradley Beal be your Norman Powell.
[33:17] Speaker 1: Because you're going to need that.
[33:18] Speaker 5: They tried him coming off the bench in Phoenix and
[33:20] Speaker 5: that shit was a You don't need.
[33:24] Speaker 3: To do that to him. It was. Like, Rodney Bill
[33:27] Speaker 3: might average 20. He averaged 18 last year.
[33:29] Speaker 5: No, starting.
[33:30] Speaker 1: No way.
[33:31] Speaker 3: They need to fire power.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[33:33] Speaker 5: James is going to be a facilitator.
[33:34] Speaker 3: Like, James is going to be. What's his name is
[33:36] Speaker 3: going to be?
[33:36] Speaker 1: Probably option two. John Collins is aggressive. He's going to
[33:39] Speaker 1: be aggressive. He's shooting at that. He's aggressive. You throw
[33:41] Speaker 1: the ball. That's what you need to.
[33:42] Speaker 3: He's firing at that.
[33:43] Speaker 1: Like, if they play this right, they can fuck around
[33:45] Speaker 1: damn near be up there top six, seven and scoring.
[33:49] Speaker 1: If you play it right, because John Collins is going
[33:51] Speaker 1: to put them up. And then you let Bradley build
[33:53] Speaker 1: and then Kawhi doing his thing, James Harden playing a
[33:55] Speaker 1: little bit faster.
[33:56] Speaker 5: It sounds like Phoenix. It sounds like Phoenix. Phoenix had
[34:05] Speaker 5: three guys that scored 20. No, they had three ISO
[34:07] Speaker 5: guys that scored 20.
[34:09] Speaker 1: So what's the difference now? Is Kawhi not an ISO guy? Nah,
[34:12] Speaker 1: he's a system guy. Oh my lord.
[34:15] Speaker 5: So, Kawhi Leonard's not an ISO, hold the ball, hold
[34:18] Speaker 5: the fucking perimeter, and do his thing.
[34:20] Speaker 1: Nah, quick shot. James Harden, is he an ISO guy? Yeah.
[34:25] Speaker 1: Not no more.
[34:26] Speaker 5: It's a weird ISO, but I can give it to you. So,
[34:30] Speaker 5: now what Tyrone Lewis is going to have to do
[34:32] Speaker 5: with Bradley Beal is put him into, what, actions, right?
[34:36] Speaker 5: Because he's not an ISO guy. Brad Beal's not an ISO.
[34:39] Speaker 5: He's a come-off, down-screen, Klay Thompson type. So, if that's
[34:44] Speaker 5: not our offense... And we're talking about the starting lineup.
[34:47] Speaker 1: That means we're going to have to change our whole formula.
[34:50] Speaker 1: How you think Powell got scored? He was off the bench. No,
[34:54] Speaker 1: he started.
[34:55] Speaker 4: That was the whole season. Did the Clippers get better
[35:00] Speaker 4: or did they get worse?
[35:01] Speaker 1: I think they got better. Huh? Did they get worse?
[35:06] Speaker 1: They got old. They got older.
[35:08] Speaker 3: They got older.
[35:09] Speaker 1: They just moved this table over there.
[35:12] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. They put that table over here.
[35:14] Speaker 1: That's all that happened. They put this table over here. No.
[35:16] Speaker 1: They put that table over there. So how old was Powell?
[35:19] Speaker 1: How old was Powell? How old was Powell? How old
[35:22] Speaker 1: was Powell? I knew I should have put that right there. Yeah.
[35:32] Speaker 1: They put a fly on this table here. They took
[35:37] Speaker 1: the ashtray off of this one.
[35:39] Speaker 2: Like, yo, you know what? Norm Powell, 32 to answer
[35:43] Speaker 2: your question. But this team, tied for third in the West,
[35:46] Speaker 2: obviously slipped a fifth with tiebreakers. You think they can
[35:48] Speaker 2: replicate that and be at that level again this season?
[35:50] Speaker 3: No. No. Hell no.
[35:55] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Because I think other teams got better.
[35:57] Speaker 3: That they did. I think other teams got better, so that's.
[36:01] Speaker 5: So it's Brooke Lopez and Bradley Peel we asking if
[36:04] Speaker 5: they moved the name.
[36:05] Speaker 1: No, it's Collison's and Kawhi. And Kawhi. And Kawhi didn't play.
[36:09] Speaker 1: And Kawhi didn't play.
[36:10] Speaker 5: As far as the new additions, Brooke Lopez and Bradley Peel.
[36:15] Speaker 3: Healthy Kawhi. Because this is the.
[36:16] Speaker 1: First year he's actually going into the season healthy. Been
[36:19] Speaker 1: playing in preseason. Did he get all his money? He
[36:22] Speaker 1: got all his money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The checks was cleared.
[36:26] Speaker 1: He's getting all the credit for his show job. I
[36:28] Speaker 1: don't know about you. I'm going to be here opening day. Yeah,
[36:31] Speaker 1: so this is the first time he's actually been helping.
[36:33] Speaker 1: And they're still old as shit, though.
[36:35] Speaker 5: No, but listen, how many years has it been before
[36:37] Speaker 5: he actually came into the season healthy?
[36:39] Speaker 1: That's like, you're at least four or five.
[36:41] Speaker 3: Four years.
[36:41] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's going to take a toll.
[36:43] Speaker 1: That's a new player. Yeah, that's it. They're like, yeah,
[36:48] Speaker 1: we got Chris Paul. They're like, we got Kawhi. Man. Yeah.
[36:51] Speaker 5: Damn.
[36:55] Speaker 3: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
[36:57] Speaker 2: We're going to stay in the Western Conference and stay
[36:58] Speaker 2: in the beautiful state of California. Just head up north
[37:00] Speaker 2: just a little bit. So the Warriors were stagnant early
[37:03] Speaker 2: on in free agency as they dealt with Jonathan Kaminga's
[37:05] Speaker 2: prolonged contract negotiation. In late September, Kaminga and the Warriors
[37:09] Speaker 2: ended the stalemate with Kaminga agreeing to a two-year, $ 48. 5
[37:13] Speaker 2: million deal with the team, which includes a team option.
[37:16] Speaker 2: So according to Shams, the deal is designed to be
[37:18] Speaker 2: ripped up and renegotiated next summer. But Kaminga is now
[37:22] Speaker 2: trade eligible on January 15th. But a rumor trade to
[37:25] Speaker 2: the Kings is now complicated with Keegan Murray signing a five-year,
[37:28] Speaker 2: $ 140 million rookie extension Wednesday. But looking at the situation,
[37:32] Speaker 2: we've had a lot of varying opinions on Kaminga. His
[37:36] Speaker 2: contract negotiates the Warriors some. Like Schotter said, Kaminga get
[37:39] Speaker 2: the hell out of there. It's a burning building. Others
[37:41] Speaker 2: have said figure it out. Did Kaminga make the right
[37:44] Speaker 2: decision re-upping with the Warriors on a two-year deal?
[37:48] Speaker 3: He said, did he make the right decision? Or the owner?
[37:52] Speaker 2: Also had an option for a three-year $ 72 million.
[37:54] Speaker 1: Say it again?
[37:56] Speaker 2: He had the option for a three-year $ 72 million, or
[37:58] Speaker 2: he could have took his qualifying offer, believe no trade
[38:00] Speaker 2: clause this season, and been an unrestricted free agent next season.
[38:04] Speaker 5: I don't like the team option shit. Once again, they
[38:09] Speaker 5: got him by his nuts, man.
[38:10] Speaker 1: I mean, he'll be going by All-Star. Trying to find
[38:14] Speaker 1: something for him. All they did was this. You want
[38:19] Speaker 1: this deal? No. What's that?
[38:26] Speaker 5: Got the deal.
[38:28] Speaker 1: Yeah! Yeah, let's do it. It's the same deal that
[38:36] Speaker 1: they offered at the beginning of the season. Hey, what's that?
[38:39] Speaker 1: Look up. I'm just saying, like, I feel bad because... Listen,
[38:44] Speaker 1: we see your talent, and we understand the market.
[38:48] Speaker 3: We've been there. We've done that.
[38:50] Speaker 1: I've tried to warn you that, hey, the deal they're
[38:54] Speaker 1: offering you, you've got to sign that now because it's
[38:56] Speaker 1: not going to get any better.
[38:57] Speaker 3: It's going to get worse.
[38:58] Speaker 5: So instead of signing the 120-something they offered you, they
[39:01] Speaker 5: just took three years off of the same money that
[39:03] Speaker 5: they offered you before, and you played a whole year.
[39:06] Speaker 5: So that means you really didn't get no interest on
[39:08] Speaker 5: what you did.
[39:09] Speaker 3: I believe the 5.
[39:10] Speaker 2: For 120, according to reports, was the initial offer. Kaminga
[39:13] Speaker 2: felt disrespected by that. That was supposed to just get
[39:15] Speaker 2: the conversation going. Now this deal.
[39:17] Speaker 3: It's the same deal, but three years less. But shorter.
[39:20] Speaker 1: So you played a whole year. And it didn't bump
[39:23] Speaker 1: up not $ 50, not $ 100. So you played a whole
[39:28] Speaker 1: year for free. Some shit you could have gotten.
[39:30] Speaker 5: A year before and most likely this deal he got
[39:33] Speaker 5: right now he could have.
[39:33] Speaker 1: Got that after his second year.
[39:37] Speaker 5: He knocked on that door and said hey let me
[39:39] Speaker 5: get that two year put up you sure okay they
[39:46] Speaker 5: happy like this is robbery yeah You robbed this young fella.
[39:51] Speaker 1: And then the second year, the team option, second year,
[39:53] Speaker 1: that shit wild, bro. Who the fuck is his agent?
[39:56] Speaker 1: Who the fuck is his agent?
[39:59] Speaker 3: They good firm on it. He met him at the mall.
[40:02] Speaker 1: He had to, in the middle. At the kiosk. At
[40:05] Speaker 1: the kiosk, nigga. At the kiosk. He had to send
[40:09] Speaker 1: a dude that sent him the shit to clean the
[40:11] Speaker 1: whole white shit. I'm walking by. I got on some
[40:14] Speaker 1: old You want me to clean your joints? You want
[40:16] Speaker 1: me to clean your all-white? No, no, he's going to
[40:17] Speaker 1: trash when I get done. My nigga, I don't clean them.
[40:20] Speaker 1: You don't clean the all-white shit? Let me get some
[40:24] Speaker 1: new ones, man. Yeah, absolutely, man. Who let him sign
[40:29] Speaker 1: that get a team a second option after what they
[40:31] Speaker 1: proved they're going to do in the last two years?
[40:33] Speaker 5: That shit, wow.
[40:34] Speaker 1: You think he had a chance, though? Yes. To change it?
[40:37] Speaker 1: Give me a one-year deal, dude.
[40:40] Speaker 5: One.
[40:40] Speaker 1: One for five. I don't give a fuck. Whatever it is, man,
[40:43] Speaker 1: I play for the minimum. I don't want no option.
[40:45] Speaker 5: That was the qualifying offer he could have took for.
[40:48] Speaker 1: $ 8 million. Keep your option. $ 8 million. It would have
[40:51] Speaker 1: made him an unrestricted free agent. I would have took it.
[40:53] Speaker 2: After this season, I'll have a no trade clause. I
[40:55] Speaker 2: would have took it. Oh, it would have had a
[40:56] Speaker 2: no trade. It had a no trade clause in it.
[40:58] Speaker 2: I would have took it.
[40:59] Speaker 1: Nah, it's tough.
[41:01] Speaker 5: I would have took it. You're not getting the option
[41:04] Speaker 5: with me, man. To me, it's the collusion you avoid
[41:06] Speaker 5: based on waiting that out and then hitting free agency
[41:10] Speaker 5: and everybody saying, there we go. They already made you
[41:15] Speaker 5: look crazy. They telling everybody about you.
[41:18] Speaker 1: You'll get more than me. He would have been like,
[41:19] Speaker 1: I would have signed the shit. Nah. I would have
[41:21] Speaker 1: signed the one. I would have signed that fucking 20.
[41:24] Speaker 1: I would have been on my merry way.
[41:27] Speaker 5: I got to know who I am.
[41:28] Speaker 1: I'm coming off the bench right now. I'm coming off
[41:31] Speaker 1: the bench. This is what I'm averaging. You know what
[41:33] Speaker 1: I'm saying?
[41:34] Speaker 3: I'm coming off the bench. This is what I'm averaging.
[41:36] Speaker 1: I know my money.
[41:39] Speaker 5: If you had a good agent, you would have known
[41:41] Speaker 5: that CBA was coming.
[41:42] Speaker 2: And you said Giddy, Cam Thomas, Kaminga, all the similar stuff.
[41:45] Speaker 1: I said the first one to sign, I said there
[41:47] Speaker 1: was 120. They all wanted it. I said the first
[41:49] Speaker 1: one to say they're going to take 100.
[41:51] Speaker 5: You're going to get your money. And that was the Gidler.
[41:53] Speaker 5: And then everybody else who got screwed. I said, the
[41:55] Speaker 5: first one to take the hunt, are you good? Everybody
[41:58] Speaker 5: else is in trouble.
[41:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And that's like, because you got to know,
[42:03] Speaker 1: you got to.
[42:03] Speaker 5: Know your value in that moment of time. You got
[42:06] Speaker 5: to know that.
[42:08] Speaker 3: Got to read the room.
[42:09] Speaker 1: I got you.
[42:10] Speaker 3: You got Cam over there. Like, listen, bro, you're getting double.
[42:14] Speaker 1: You get double damn near top three in the league.
[42:17] Speaker 3: Look where you are. Look at your style of play.
[42:20] Speaker 1: Right?
[42:21] Speaker 3: Your value is there.
[42:24] Speaker 5: I don't know how many people is going to accept
[42:26] Speaker 5: how you play this game around the league.
[42:30] Speaker 1: They're going to make you a sex man. 100%. Yeah.
[42:34] Speaker 1: That style is a sixth man in this league.
[42:36] Speaker 3: Especially after your last comment.
[42:37] Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know about my pass ball. Man, that
[42:39] Speaker 1: shit was weird.
[42:39] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[42:40] Speaker 1: Why would you say that?
[42:41] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[42:42] Speaker 1: I ain't trying to pass. Ask the who. You know
[42:44] Speaker 1: what I mean? So it's one of those things where
[42:46] Speaker 1: you are a starter and your value of that money
[42:49] Speaker 1: is in that city playing that style. You go anywhere else,
[42:54] Speaker 1: you're going to be glorified sixth man.
[42:56] Speaker 5: And they're not paying you that type of money. So
[42:59] Speaker 5: you're signing this one-year deal.
[43:01] Speaker 1: Thinking you're about to average, I mean, not thinking, you're
[43:03] Speaker 1: going to average 20-something, go into the market, and they're
[43:06] Speaker 1: going to sit there and say the same thing.
[43:10] Speaker 2: But it's a real issue with these guys overestimating what
[43:12] Speaker 2: the market has previously been. This new CBA, a lot
[43:14] Speaker 2: of teams just frankly didn't have the bread and weren't
[43:16] Speaker 2: going to come off of it with these aprons.
[43:18] Speaker 1: Previous years is fucking the market up and these players
[43:21] Speaker 1: head up. But they're fucking the players head up previous years.
[43:24] Speaker 1: Previous years. You're seeing guys who you know that you're like, shit,
[43:27] Speaker 1: I'm way better than him. I'm doing that. I'm averaging
[43:31] Speaker 1: this and I'm averaging that. You saw dudes getting 34,
[43:33] Speaker 1: 35 million. You're like, shit. Wait till my time come. Well,
[43:37] Speaker 1: your time here and the money they showing you, this
[43:40] Speaker 1: ain't that. Let's be honest.
[43:42] Speaker 5: The game hasn't changed when it comes to the six-man payout.
[43:45] Speaker 1: It's Jamal Crawford, Nick Young. J.R.
[43:49] Speaker 5: Smith, Nate Robinson, everybody got robbed. Nobody got paid their value,
[43:54] Speaker 5: and it hasn't changed since. Anybody coming off the bench,
[43:57] Speaker 5: even Norm Powell right now, he should deserve a lot more,
[44:01] Speaker 5: but you're going to get what we value this position as,
[44:04] Speaker 5: six men. You come off, it don't matter, 20 a game, 17, 19, 22,
[44:09] Speaker 5: it don't matter.
[44:10] Speaker 1: You're not starting. You give us what we ask for.
[44:14] Speaker 5: So if like he said if cam is going to
[44:16] Speaker 5: pigeonhole himself to be this guy in outside of Brooklyn, bro,
[44:20] Speaker 5: it's not going to look good.
[44:22] Speaker 1: It's not going to be.
[44:23] Speaker 3: With what else?
[44:23] Speaker 1: What else could he be doing one with they trying
[44:26] Speaker 1: to get 130? No, he said it. They're looking at
[44:28] Speaker 1: they're looking at it's just 30 30 million. They're looking
[44:31] Speaker 1: at 30 million a year. No, I'm looking at this person. No,
[44:34] Speaker 1: I'm looking at this person got paid a year before
[44:37] Speaker 1: Chandler Parsons. They got a hundred. They got a hundred dudes.
[44:42] Speaker 3: They got all them all them bread.
[44:43] Speaker 1: They like shit. I'm better than him.
[44:46] Speaker 3: I'm better than him.
[44:47] Speaker 1: You're turning down $ 120, 000 though.
[44:49] Speaker 5: But at that point, pocket watching Nick.
[44:54] Speaker 1: You got to know your value to that team and
[44:56] Speaker 1: know your value in the open market. I don't know
[45:00] Speaker 1: your relationship with that owner. I don't know why he's
[45:03] Speaker 1: paying you that money.
[45:04] Speaker 5: So I can't be looking at your pocket talking about, well,
[45:07] Speaker 5: if he get this from what he's doing, he's averaging $ 18, 500.
[45:10] Speaker 5: I'm averaging $ 22, 000.
[45:12] Speaker 1: I need more than that. And they're like, well, I.
[45:17] Speaker 3: Don't.
[45:17] Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
[45:19] Speaker 5: But the Ghillie, the Ghillie, the Ghillie's averaging 18, 7,
[45:22] Speaker 5: and 7.
[45:23] Speaker 1: Hmm? Ghillie.
[45:24] Speaker 5: Ghillie's averaging 18, 19, 7, and 7. And he play
[45:27] Speaker 5: a little bit of defense. Like, Cam, you averaging 22,
[45:30] Speaker 5: but you give us nothing but this.
[45:33] Speaker 1: So, yeah. So, to that point, right, what else are
[45:35] Speaker 1: you around? What do people... view you as around this league, right? Like,
[45:40] Speaker 1: so you're a ball stopper, you, yourself, you don't play no, like,
[45:43] Speaker 1: you don't, like, these things don't fare well with a
[45:46] Speaker 1: whole lot of other people, to Gil's point.
[45:48] Speaker 3: Your value is in Brooklyn.
[45:49] Speaker 1: Can't get that label off you, neither.
[45:51] Speaker 3: It's hard to get it off you, man.
[45:53] Speaker 5: Because that's your role now. It's like the microwave. You
[45:56] Speaker 5: come in and give us buckets and it's all we know.
[45:58] Speaker 1: Hey, Blue. I was stuck.
[46:00] Speaker 3: Hey, Blue.
[46:01] Speaker 1: You spin records. All you do. All you do. I'm
[46:06] Speaker 1: paying you nothing. Yeah, I'm paying you country boys nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[46:10] Speaker 1: That shit hurt. Like, what's so funny is like, was it,
[46:13] Speaker 1: who else took a qualifying offer?
[46:16] Speaker 3: Did Quinn Grimes take one?
[46:17] Speaker 1: No. I think he was looking for 32. He was
[46:22] Speaker 1: looking for 30. It was four of them. It was
[46:24] Speaker 1: looking for 30. What's funny is going into the open market,
[46:27] Speaker 1: if they both had to.
[46:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, he signed a qualifying offer.
[46:29] Speaker 1: He did?
[46:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[46:30] Speaker 1: For who?
[46:30] Speaker 3: The Knicks? The Sixers.
[46:32] Speaker 1: The Phillies. Okay. What's so funny is he will get paid. Like,
[46:37] Speaker 1: you will pay him faster than you pay Cam. Who?
[46:41] Speaker 1: Quinn Grimes. What's the difference between the two? Do more.
[46:44] Speaker 1: We're doing more.
[46:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, Grimes, do more.
[46:45] Speaker 1: Wait, wait.
[46:46] Speaker 3: Just do more. Pass the ball deep.
[46:48] Speaker 1: Score when you need him. Whatever you need, you do it.
[46:51] Speaker 2: And the reports were he was looking for 25 mil
[46:52] Speaker 2: a year, ended up taking that qualifying offer.
[46:54] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[46:55] Speaker 1: Like, 25 a year?
[46:56] Speaker 3: If he bumped it down to 20?
[46:59] Speaker 5: For you to look out there and be like, yeah,
[47:02] Speaker 5: I'm worth 25.
[47:04] Speaker 1: But just knowing what the impact... Look at your team.
[47:08] Speaker 1: Just look at the locker room you're in, right? You
[47:10] Speaker 1: see you got Joel in there, motherfucker. You got PG
[47:13] Speaker 1: in there. You got Maxie in there. And you look
[47:15] Speaker 1: at yourself and you're like, yeah, I'm worth $ 20, 000. I'm
[47:18] Speaker 1: like them other three. And McCain. No, not even him.
[47:23] Speaker 3: He on the rookie deal.
[47:24] Speaker 5: He was actually better.
[47:27] Speaker 1: But I'm just saying as far as the money now,
[47:29] Speaker 1: you look around this locker room and you look at
[47:31] Speaker 1: your honest self and be like, Yeah, they gonna give
[47:35] Speaker 1: me 25. They gave Joel make... Like, naive, man.
[47:41] Speaker 4: But to me, what's the difference between Cam and AR?
[47:44] Speaker 4: AR would get 150 or something.
[47:45] Speaker 1: One, AR play defense. AR... actually still plays basketball he
[47:54] Speaker 1: can pass he can like he'll he's gonna pass he's
[47:57] Speaker 1: gonna make plays but i don't know that's him with
[48:00] Speaker 1: lebron james lemon daddy we don't know what he is
[48:04] Speaker 1: they're gonna do this here you see you right here.
[48:18] Speaker 5: You took a fade, three people out of bounds like
[48:20] Speaker 5: you Kobe Bryant without the Kobe.
[48:22] Speaker 1: And the Bryant.
[48:23] Speaker 5: And there's four people under the basket by themselves doing this.
[48:26] Speaker 5: But if I make it, what's the difference? You make it,
[48:29] Speaker 5: we still, it's a good shot. It's a good shot
[48:32] Speaker 5: for you.
[48:32] Speaker 1: So you're literally playing one on four.
[48:36] Speaker 3: Like you playing a one on four.
[48:37] Speaker 4: He has to though. That's the thing I don't get.
[48:40] Speaker 4: He has to play that way. Because who is he
[48:42] Speaker 4: going to pass it to? Who says you have to?
[48:44] Speaker 3: No, Nick.
[48:46] Speaker 1: Oh, so if you put A.R. in his role, A.R.
[48:48] Speaker 1: doing the same thing, he going to get treated like that?
[48:51] Speaker 1: What's the stats?
[48:53] Speaker 3: Austin Reed? No, no, no.
[48:55] Speaker 1: Cam Thomas.
[48:55] Speaker 5: They have to lose it no matter if he take
[48:57] Speaker 5: them shots or not.
[48:58] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[48:59] Speaker 5: So pass the fucking ball to your teammates. Trust somebody.
[49:01] Speaker 3: Cam Thomas.
[49:01] Speaker 1: 24, four assists, three rebounds.
[49:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, now, that doesn't sound.
[49:07] Speaker 5: Now, if he averaged.
[49:08] Speaker 1: 24, 4, and 3. If he averaged 18, 7, and 7... 18, 7,
[49:10] Speaker 1: and 7, they pay that man.
[49:10] Speaker 3: Because they look different.
[49:12] Speaker 1: Because they look different.
[49:20] Speaker 5: Rebound. He ain't even got to get the rebound. He
[49:22] Speaker 5: averaged 18, 19, and 7 assists. Damn, he can still
[49:31] Speaker 5: average three rebounds. You know why? Let me tell you why.
[49:34] Speaker 1: Because he averages seven assists, that means, that tells you,
[49:39] Speaker 1: if I give him the ball.
[49:41] Speaker 5: he's going to make the right play. He'll try to
[49:43] Speaker 5: make the right play. We're helping putting these labels on somebody.
[49:48] Speaker 5: That's the thing I don't like. What's the difference between
[49:50] Speaker 5: him and Devin Booker when he got fucking paid? All
[49:52] Speaker 5: he did was shoot the fucking ball. He didn't pass
[49:55] Speaker 5: and shit. He went for 71 on a motherfucker.
[49:58] Speaker 1: He didn't pass. He still got paid. What's the difference
[50:00] Speaker 1: between him and Cam... Cam, what other nigga name? Cam.
[50:04] Speaker 2: Cam only played 25 games last season. You're on a
[50:05] Speaker 2: team where somebody has to score.
[50:07] Speaker 4: You can't blame him or treat him different because he's
[50:10] Speaker 4: scoring the fucking ball.
[50:10] Speaker 1: I don't get this shit. You want a motherfucker to score. Yeah,
[50:13] Speaker 1: I get you. How much do you average? Who? Cam.
[50:17] Speaker 3: Cam Thomas. Hold on, let me pull it back up, yo.
[50:18] Speaker 3: You know I got 18 screens.
[50:20] Speaker 1: 24, right?
[50:20] Speaker 3: 24, four assists, three runs.
[50:21] Speaker 2: Only played 25 games last season, though, dealing with hamstring issue.
[50:24] Speaker 1: 24 years before that, too.
[50:27] Speaker 3: Who was more selfish, me or him? Me more selfish.
[50:34] Speaker 5: I was more assists, more rebounds, more points. And then
[50:37] Speaker 5: two other people averaged 20 also.
[50:40] Speaker 1: I made my selfishness look different. It's selfishness to look selfish.
[50:46] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You can be selfish, guys.
[50:50] Speaker 1: You can't look selfish.
[50:53] Speaker 5: Did Devin Booker look selfish?
[50:55] Speaker 1: No. Did Devin Booker look selfish? Man. Answer the question.
[51:01] Speaker 1: I know you're trying to fight for your point, and
[51:02] Speaker 1: I get it. But did he look selfish? Yes. It's
[51:07] Speaker 1: a low for 71 with nobody. The whole team was mad.
[51:10] Speaker 1: They lost the game. Did you know why?
[51:13] Speaker 5: I was mad as a motherfucker at Tyson.
[51:16] Speaker 1: I was hot at Tyson. Isaiah Thomas was hot. I
[51:20] Speaker 1: was mad at Tyson. I was mad at Tyson. You know,
[51:36] Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, you know, there's some
[51:41] Speaker 1: shots that a person.
[51:42] Speaker 5: To take and you'd be like, oh, come on. He
[51:43] Speaker 5: know because he he'll do it. But if he don't,
[51:46] Speaker 5: it's those shots. He does that a lot.
[51:49] Speaker 1: You'd be like, yo, you didn't have that. Come on.
[51:51] Speaker 1: You didn't have that. I'm high.
[51:52] Speaker 3: I'm high.
[51:52] Speaker 1: Everybody shooting those shots. No, but he should.
[51:55] Speaker 5: What I'm saying is if he has, let's say 15,
[51:58] Speaker 5: if he's only taking 15 shots.
[52:00] Speaker 1: How many shots he should have gained? 14 look like yo,
[52:03] Speaker 1: come on Swing you only need three You know 14
[52:05] Speaker 1: like this a I was 24 even better 18 18
[52:07] Speaker 1: shots per game. I think it's just a team. Yeah,
[52:09] Speaker 1: guess what?
[52:09] Speaker 4: It's gonna look worse this year because Michael poured.
[52:12] Speaker 1: Over that month.
[52:13] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we not having none.
[52:24] Speaker 1: Look at when he shoot. We were like, oh.
[52:26] Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Nick.
[52:27] Speaker 1: And it's going to get worse. And he 200. Because
[52:29] Speaker 1: they going to be out there, motherfucker. He shoot it,
[52:31] Speaker 1: I shoot it. He shoot it, I shoot it. He
[52:33] Speaker 1: shoot it, I shoot it. My turn. My turn. He
[52:35] Speaker 1: might as well don't score. My turn now.
[52:37] Speaker 4: Anybody that go to Brooklyn, if you score on an
[52:39] Speaker 4: ass team, just don't score.
[52:40] Speaker 3: Wait, you know who played in Brooklyn?
[52:42] Speaker 1: You know who played in Brooklyn? Dennis Schroeder. That's what
[52:44] Speaker 1: y'all saying. You know Dennis Schroeder. You know him, right?
[52:47] Speaker 5: He averaged 18 in Brooklyn. How do you average 20?
[52:52] Speaker 1: 18. 18.9 or something like that? It was 20 at
[52:54] Speaker 1: one point. What was he doing? He was not passing
[52:58] Speaker 1: that bitch.
[52:59] Speaker 5: That 24 just don't look right. It either got to
[53:02] Speaker 5: be 18 or 29. You know what I mean?
[53:04] Speaker 1: The 24... The way he plays doesn't look right.
[53:10] Speaker 5: And he got 15 wins. They don't want him to
[53:12] Speaker 5: be a star. He's not star quality.
[53:16] Speaker 1: No, think about it.
[53:16] Speaker 5: His 24 look more selfish than Shea, Brunson's.
[53:20] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[53:22] Speaker 5: Lucas, they got the 30-something, but how he looks makes
[53:26] Speaker 5: it look bad.
[53:27] Speaker 3: And they ball dominant.
[53:28] Speaker 1: He don't have a ball like that. He can shoot
[53:30] Speaker 1: that bitch. Just shoot him. The fact that they ball
[53:34] Speaker 1: dominant still don't even look like it. Hey, don't you
[53:36] Speaker 1: remember that old school Nike commercial?
[53:37] Speaker 3: 24 is 24.
[53:37] Speaker 1: You going to call the fun police on him? No, man.
[53:40] Speaker 1: You ain't even letting the ball touch the ground. God damn, Pat.
[53:43] Speaker 1: That's what I said.
[53:44] Speaker 3: It's like this. It's 24 is 24, bro.
[53:48] Speaker 1: 24 is 24. What was that play?
[53:49] Speaker 3: It wasn't this year. It was the last year, right,
[53:52] Speaker 3: where he got the rebound, right?
[53:55] Speaker 1: No, he got the rebound like this.
[53:57] Speaker 5: And they just bounced it and then did a full
[53:59] Speaker 5: fade away.
[54:00] Speaker 1: Didn't look at the rim. Just turn around.
[54:02] Speaker 3: It went in.
[54:03] Speaker 1: But he was just like, wait. No, I'm not.
[54:06] Speaker 3: That's hard.
[54:07] Speaker 1: I'm not passing it. 24 and 25. I thought it
[54:09] Speaker 1: was so hard to score in the league.
[54:12] Speaker 3: I thought if you scored there.
[54:13] Speaker 1: No, no. 24 is 24. He scores easy.
[54:14] Speaker 5: He gets double. Like, he is that dude. It's just
[54:18] Speaker 5: 24 is not the number you want for how he
[54:21] Speaker 5: plays it.
[54:22] Speaker 1: He needs to be in the 30s. In the 25
[54:25] Speaker 1: games he played, right, he's getting double teamed in a
[54:28] Speaker 1: lot of them games. He getting 18 shots up, still
[54:30] Speaker 1: getting double teamed. That's forcing it. That's good. That's good.
[54:35] Speaker 1: How much would you average if you have 18 shots?
[54:38] Speaker 1: I'm going to go get dumped. If you had 18
[54:41] Speaker 1: shots a game, how much would you average it? More
[54:42] Speaker 1: than 24, right? More than 24? You only double people
[54:44] Speaker 1: that's good. Are you going to have more than 24, right? No. Hey,
[55:01] Speaker 1: I got one for you So he ever so he
[55:05] Speaker 1: shoot the ball 18 times a night right when he
[55:06] Speaker 1: played which is not a lot, huh? I'm finna get it.
[55:09] Speaker 1: I got one Mellow left the league in school. We
[55:12] Speaker 1: played for the Knicks. All right, he shot the ball
[55:15] Speaker 1: 22 times a night So just four more shots the
[55:18] Speaker 1: mellow shot than this kid. No, he let the league
[55:20] Speaker 1: is scoring. Oh Well, just ask about Shade. I'm a
[55:24] Speaker 1: different era, though. Shade averaged last year. Yeah, I'm just saying,
[55:26] Speaker 1: but I just went back because people looked at Melo
[55:29] Speaker 1: as selfish at that time, right? Yep. But he led
[55:32] Speaker 1: the league in scoring. This kid only averaged in 24.
[55:33] Speaker 5: Shade, 22. Field goal attempts per game averaged 35 points
[55:37] Speaker 5: per game.
[55:37] Speaker 1: 30. 33.
[55:37] Speaker 3: How old is Cam? About 24.
[55:43] Speaker 1: What are you averaging? Shit. Cam Thomas, 24 years old. Nick,
[55:46] Speaker 1: you average 13 shots, average 18 points. Okay. Five more shots, Nick.
[55:47] Speaker 1: I'd be 24. See, Cam.
[55:48] Speaker 3: All right, let's shift back over.
[55:49] Speaker 1: That's why your ass is a sixer, man. He don't
[56:07] Speaker 1: get fouled. He don't go to the foul line. He shoot.
[56:09] Speaker 1: He don't go to the foul line. I didn't go
[56:11] Speaker 1: to the foul line.
[56:12] Speaker 5: Doesn't that make you more one-dimensional if you're not going
[56:15] Speaker 5: to the foul line? You're settling for everything.
[56:19] Speaker 1: In basketball terms, that is his problem because he's a
[56:23] Speaker 1: two-foot jumper. He don't get fouled. It looks like so.
[56:27] Speaker 1: When somebody like, I know I'm not supposed to shoot this.
[56:29] Speaker 1: I pump fake, get that, go to the free throw line.
[56:31] Speaker 1: It don't count against me, but I'm getting the points. Yeah. Right?
[56:34] Speaker 3: So if he learned how to get fouled.
[56:36] Speaker 5: Those 18 shots, he's already at 27.
[56:38] Speaker 1: He don't look selfish. But the fact that he don't
[56:41] Speaker 1: get fouled and all those are actually jump shots.
[56:44] Speaker 3: Like, one of them jump, he's like, he's going to
[56:47] Speaker 3: spin out.
[56:47] Speaker 1: Spin out and fade away.
[56:49] Speaker 5: That was my part.
[56:50] Speaker 1: I didn't get fouled like you. Lemon daddy if Austin
[56:54] Speaker 1: if he what does Austin Reeves do that?
[56:56] Speaker 5: He don't do get to the line Computer.
[57:02] Speaker 11: Freezing I think he's like 13 14. I think that's
[57:05] Speaker 11: too many questions. Oh no, that's no jobs Definitely not.
[57:08] Speaker 11: Can I merely a host not a researcher? They fired
[57:12] Speaker 11: the research department.
[57:15] Speaker 2: So Austin Reeves last season averaged 20 points with 14
[57:18] Speaker 2: shot attempts.
[57:18] Speaker 1: 14 shot attempts. Thank you. So if he, listen.
[57:22] Speaker 5: Five free throw attempts. But look, Nick, but what do A.R.
[57:25] Speaker 5: do to get his points?
[57:26] Speaker 1: But A.R. don't get double teamed. That's even worse. Oh,
[57:29] Speaker 1: he get to the line. Those are easy points.
[57:32] Speaker 5: So if he get into the line on 14 shots
[57:34] Speaker 5: and he averaging 20, give him four more shots. And
[57:38] Speaker 5: he's still getting to the line. He might be 25, 26.
[57:40] Speaker 1: No, no. We don't know what he's going to be.
[57:43] Speaker 1: You're getting double teamed. He got Luka and LeBron. We
[57:46] Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to be. Luka LeBron, he's
[57:48] Speaker 1: averaging 26 and 5.
[57:50] Speaker 3: If I'm able.
[57:50] Speaker 4: To take it to the hole, because I know Luka
[57:53] Speaker 4: getting covered and LeBron right here, the lane.
[57:56] Speaker 3: But it's the six and the five with it.
[57:58] Speaker 5: So it looks like he's giving the ball up Yes,
[58:01] Speaker 5: and yeah, he can he can do the same stuff
[58:03] Speaker 5: if if he just add two more assists to it
[58:05] Speaker 5: He looks more value.
[58:07] Speaker 1: Yo, y'all trying to yo, he's not gonna give oh, yeah,
[58:10] Speaker 1: but it's like looking in the mirror Yeah, you watching
[58:13] Speaker 1: cam play like yeah, that's my dog Shoot that bitch
[58:18] Speaker 1: cam It's crazy, bro.
[58:21] Speaker 4: Somebody that averaged 24 and still can't get paid.
[58:23] Speaker 3: We're trying to tell you why.
[58:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to tell you why. It don't make
[58:28] Speaker 1: sense to me. How do you.
[58:31] Speaker 6: Think he'll look on the Lakers if him and Austin
[58:34] Speaker 6: Reeves switch?
[58:35] Speaker 3: We don't know.
[58:35] Speaker 1: How would Austin Reeves look getting double teamed? I'm asking you, though.
[58:38] Speaker 1: You can say I don't know, man. We're asking you.
[58:40] Speaker 1: How do you think? I don't know.
[58:42] Speaker 4: How would Austin Reeves look getting double teamed? Do you
[58:44] Speaker 4: think if Austin Reeves go to Brooklyn, he's going to
[58:46] Speaker 4: average 30? They don't know.
[58:48] Speaker 1: We don't think.
[58:48] Speaker 5: Do you think Austin Reeves is a good passer? Do
[58:51] Speaker 5: you think he knows how to pass out of a
[58:53] Speaker 5: double team?
[58:53] Speaker 1: Have you seen him in that situation? You just can't.
[58:56] Speaker 1: You can't label somebody like he's just a dumbass basketball player.
[58:58] Speaker 1: He won't average 30, but all I know is to shoot.
[59:01] Speaker 3: That's what he's shown so far.
[59:04] Speaker 1: I'm on this team. I have to do that. That's
[59:05] Speaker 1: what he's shown so far. Who am I passing it
[59:07] Speaker 1: to on Brooklyn? Please tell me.
[59:09] Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure if Cam Thomas is on the Lakers
[59:11] Speaker 6: and he averaged like 18 or 7, it will look
[59:14] Speaker 6: better than that 20.
[59:14] Speaker 3: Like it would look better. That's what I'm saying. 18, 7,
[59:17] Speaker 3: 7 looks better than his 20 right now.
[59:25] Speaker 1: Like Giddy, what did Giddy do? So this game has
[59:30] Speaker 1: changed to, they call them sheet stuffers. So what we
[59:37] Speaker 1: thought like 33-5, like hell yeah, that's today's 21-7-7. Right?
[59:45] Speaker 1: So they're valuing people who are the 10, 9, and 8.
[59:50] Speaker 1: That's 25, 7, and 8.
[59:52] Speaker 5: They want someone who's doing every single thing because I
[59:56] Speaker 5: can move you around. They don't want the 33 and
[1:00:02] Speaker 5: 3 no more.
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: We can keep your balls stopped. They want that international
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: look where my star player is affecting the game. Rebounding, scoring,
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: Passing and that's what they're looking at. That's that's why
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: Gideon can get a hundred why everybody else is sitting
[1:00:18] Speaker 1: there like.
[1:00:18] Speaker 4: Is like that name one team is like that Bronson
[1:00:22] Speaker 4: don't do none of that shit shit. Yo, any person
[1:00:24] Speaker 4: do is okay, Giannis Giannis all.
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: Your roles Danny Danny, how much you make?
[1:00:35] Speaker 3: Let me see here.
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: I guarantee he's going to get 100 plus. Americans don't
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: do it. We don't know how to do nothing. No,
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: Trae Young average.
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: Trae Young?
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: He does that stuff. Double-double.
[1:00:45] Speaker 3: Jason Tatum?
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: Yep, Jason Tatum, full stats.
[1:00:48] Speaker 3: He signed a four-year $ 55 million back in 2023.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: 2023?
[1:00:50] Speaker 3: So, yeah, watch for this contract to come up.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: All right, well, let's shift this back to the Warriors, though,
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: which was the initial topic of discussion. Appreciate this great conversation.
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: This is Gil Zerina, presenter of Underdog Woof Woof.
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: That's the problem, man. Woof Woof. Glorify six.
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: We're still working.
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: That was a preseason Woof Woof. Regular season, be yourself.
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: Niggas got preseason Woof Woof. Let's get it out of
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: our system.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: All right. So I guess that's all you have to
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: do any time we're in a debate.
[1:01:17] Speaker 5: You did it, baby. You was a champ. You did it.
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: I know.
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: See?
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: He said, I know.
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: You were a champion with the Golden State Warriors, so
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: we have to chat. You think I can slap his
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: head off? Don't do that, please. He's just rare.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: I'm sure he's rare.
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's rare. Pretty sure it was the
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: only one. No, no, they gave them out.
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: They gave them out. They're everywhere.
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: They're everywhere.
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: We asked the chat, did Kaminga make the right call? 61%
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: of the chat says no, but let's take a look
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: at the Warriors in general heading into this season. So
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: in addition to retaining Kaminga, Warriors also retained Anthony Melton,
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: Gary Payton II, and Quinton Post. They signed Al Horford
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: to replace Kevon Looney and brought in Seth Curry, brother
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: of Steph Curry. Nepotism at its finest.
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding.
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: Steph.
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: Steph deserved his job. Warriors were 25-25 before the Jimmy
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: Butler trade last season. Finished the season 23-9 with the
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: team going 22-5 with Steph and Jimmy Buckets were both
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: in the lineup. It helped them secure the seventh seed,
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: advance to the second round of playoffs. Obviously, Steph had
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: the hamstring injury in that second round series, effectively ended
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: the season. But looking at this team, Steph has vocalized
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: his desire to still be a part of a winning team,
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: a championship-level squad. Is this Warrior squad in their championship
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: window still open? Okay, I'm just letting you know, Gil.
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: Don't hate.
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: Damn. I didn't know they signed that brother.
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: You ever been in projects? Once or twice.
[1:02:45] Speaker 5: There's bars on that window, huh? So you can't come
[1:02:49] Speaker 5: in or get out, right? They don't open. So there's
[1:02:52] Speaker 5: no open window on this team right now. That is
[1:02:55] Speaker 5: too old, not enough. You think after what you saw
[1:02:59] Speaker 5: after the trade-off? There's not enough attributes for how Steph plays.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: How Steph plays is going to keep him relevant, but
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: he needs another guy that helps him move. Buddy Hill.
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: Can he keep that up? Him, Buddy Hill. Look, move
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: Draymond to the bench.
[1:03:18] Speaker 5: Let Jimmy Butler play Draymond's position. I would let Jimmy
[1:03:23] Speaker 5: Butler need to buy in and be in the new Draymond.
[1:03:26] Speaker 5: He can play that position.
[1:03:27] Speaker 3: So what does Draymond do then?
[1:03:28] Speaker 5: He come off the bench and be the anchor. He
[1:03:32] Speaker 5: will hit everybody off the bench. What is he giving
[1:03:35] Speaker 5: us when he starts? He's giving us defense. Now, he's
[1:03:38] Speaker 5: a great defensive player, but what is he giving us?
[1:03:40] Speaker 5: What is the stats of last year? I think the
[1:03:43] Speaker 5: window's open. It's going to be 6-6-7.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: 6-6-7. It ain't no disrespect. It's adjusting to the time.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: 9.6 rebounds, 6 assists.
[1:03:47] Speaker 12: 9-6-6.
[1:03:47] Speaker 3: 9-6-6-6. So, Jimmy can't give us that? What was Jimmy's?
[1:04:01] Speaker 4: He was talking about Giannis and his brother still did
[1:04:04] Speaker 4: the same thing.
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: We ain't hear one problem.
[1:04:07] Speaker 5: No, Seth is going to do it.
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: Seth is a good guy. Where's Seth been at?
[1:04:12] Speaker 5: So with the Warriors, Philly, he was in Charlotte last year.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler averaged 18-6-6.
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: 18-6-6.
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: In his 30 games with the Warriors. Come on, man.
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: 18-6-6 Jimmy Butler. 18-6-6 in his 30 games with the
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: Warriors last season.
[1:04:28] Speaker 5: He averaged 18, 6, and 6. It looked quiet as fuck.
[1:04:31] Speaker 5: He was complaining. 18, 6, and 6, and we was
[1:04:34] Speaker 5: complaining about it, too. Jimmy, it looked like, come on, man,
[1:04:38] Speaker 5: you got to shoot some more. 23 and 9 after
[1:04:41] Speaker 5: the trade. 22 and 5 with Jimmy and Steph together.
[1:04:44] Speaker 5: I think the window's still open.
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: Why do you think the window's still open?
[1:04:49] Speaker 3: Because they got the greatest point guard ever.
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: They have Magic Johnson on the roster. I mean, he's
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: not slowing down. So you see him running around and.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: I mean him alone is just going to always have
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: them in a conversation.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: So I feel like a lot of people are sleeping
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: on this word. So after the trade deadline last season,
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: I know I get it. I get it.
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: Oh, did we complain when when Klay Thompson moved to
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: the bench?
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
[1:05:11] Speaker 1: So why did they do that wrong?
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: Because it was stupid.
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: Shake some shit up trying to shake some shit up.
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: They did. They shook it up. He broke in put
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: his ski in front of him right now yet.
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: He wants the torch to be passed to him.
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: What was that last year?
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: By the fire.
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: When they did that?
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: He said he wants the torch to be passed to
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: him by the end with the fire on it.
[1:05:39] Speaker 5: They benched Klay Thompson. Messed his mental up.
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: And Brzezinski didn't turn out to be what they thought
[1:05:47] Speaker 1: he was going to be. And they didn't pay play.
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: You got Jimmy Butler, though.
[1:05:50] Speaker 5: You got Jimmy Butler that could come in and offset
[1:05:53] Speaker 5: all of the shit you're missing, make the game faster.
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: Like, you got to think about it.
[1:05:57] Speaker 5: When Draymond's in the game with that core, with Al Horford,
[1:06:01] Speaker 5: you got one guy you can sit off of. If
[1:06:03] Speaker 5: you put Jimmy Butler in that position, you got to
[1:06:06] Speaker 5: play all five guys now. It ain't saying nothing bad
[1:06:10] Speaker 5: about Dray. It's like Dray can come off the bench
[1:06:12] Speaker 5: and anchor the second unit. Whoever that second unit is,
[1:06:15] Speaker 5: but you got a faster, more mobile, and you got
[1:06:18] Speaker 5: a bigger threat in Jimmy Butler that can give you 25,
[1:06:22] Speaker 5: 30 coming off that fourth spot.
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: Then you got Buddy Hill in there. He going to
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: play the fourth? Yeah.
[1:06:27] Speaker 5: Jimmy at the fourth. If you playing small already, he's taller.
[1:06:31] Speaker 5: He's taller than Draymond.
[1:06:33] Speaker 3: He don't play bigger than Draymond. He don't jump higher
[1:06:35] Speaker 3: than Draymond.
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: He play defense. He pass the ball. He do everything
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: Draymond do.
[1:06:39] Speaker 4: He don't know Steph like Draymond do, though. He don't
[1:06:42] Speaker 4: do everything. They got a connection, bro, I'm telling you.
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: I think you keep it. You got our horse without you. Oh,
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: and you got, oh, so you got no protection at
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: the rim. You got your center that got a five-foot-inch vertical.
[1:06:55] Speaker 5: We ain't been playing defense the last three years anyway,
[1:06:57] Speaker 5: so it don't even fucking matter.
[1:06:58] Speaker 1: So just get it and go.
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: Get it and go.
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: We fasted.
[1:07:03] Speaker 5: Ain't no defense in the NBA no more. Stop this
[1:07:06] Speaker 5: being defensive. They resigned Quentin Post, you said, correct? They
[1:07:08] Speaker 5: got Quentin Post coming off the bench.
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: Shit. I'm telling you, they're playing with different lineups.
[1:07:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, he should be starting.
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: He should be starting.
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: He should be starting.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: Not no Al Hofer. Over Drake? Over.
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: Quinn Post should be your five. Distress the floor. Yes.
[1:07:23] Speaker 5: Quinn should be your five on offense and then let
[1:07:25] Speaker 5: Draymond do what Draymond did.
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: Yes, Quinn Post should be your five. The Warriors are
[1:07:28] Speaker 1: going to be better than the Clippers. Starring five in
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: the NBA. Absolutely.
[1:07:31] Speaker 3: Mr. B, the Warriors are going to be better than who?
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: The Clippers, for sure.
[1:07:34] Speaker 3: You know why?
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: Why?
[1:07:35] Speaker 3: Because Jimmy Butler plays team basketball.
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: Right? Great team basketball guy. There's no, there's no defined
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: second option for that team.
[1:07:52] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:07:52] Speaker 5: So there's like Kaminga hasn't stepped up and Buddy Hill
[1:07:55] Speaker 5: hasn't stepped up and said, yo, I'm going to be
[1:07:57] Speaker 5: taking those 18, 20 shots and I'm going to be
[1:07:59] Speaker 5: that second guy.
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: So Jimmy, you can be the third. They don't have
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: that yet. Right now it's Steph playing Steph and then
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: a guy playing very great basketball.
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: They don't have the clay.
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: They don't have that guy that says, okay, he's a
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: number two. Like, we need that. Like, that's the problem.
[1:08:18] Speaker 5: Unless Kaminga can turn into that and say, we're guaranteeing
[1:08:22] Speaker 5: 18 from him with Jimmy Butler averaging his.
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: 18, 6, and 6. Now you're talking about different teams.
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: So is Jimmy not number two? Jimmy, I'm not saying
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: Jimmy's not number two.
[1:08:30] Speaker 6: It's hard to be a number two when Steve Kerr
[1:08:31] Speaker 6: telling you to pass the ball to one person.
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: Look, you got Steph, Kaminga, Buddy Hill, Jimmy.
[1:08:38] Speaker 5: Butler, and Al Horford. That could be your starting five.
[1:08:41] Speaker 5: A very old starting five. So if your number two
[1:08:44] Speaker 5: is averaging 18. Would be the oldest starting five in
[1:08:47] Speaker 5: the NBA after close to 37 years of age. Your
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: second option is averaging 18. That's not a second option.
[1:08:51] Speaker 5: He's going to play good basketball.
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: You need him as your third. But I think on
[1:09:03] Speaker 1: that team, the way they have constructed it and the
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: way they play, you have Steph average what he's going
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: to average. We know that, whatever that is. And Jimmy
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: Butler and Kaminga averaging 18 apiece. That's fine. That's fine.
[1:09:21] Speaker 1: You can get away with that. And Buddy being 13, 12, 10.
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: You can get away with that. See, they thought Pazinski
[1:09:30] Speaker 1: was going to be averaging 20 for Klay.
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: No way they thought that.
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: No way they thought that. That's why they did the shit.
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: Why do you think they benched him? He got... They
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: thought he was going to average 20. They thought he
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: was going to replace Klay.
[1:09:46] Speaker 4: They thought he was going to make more open shots.
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: Steve just liked him because he reminded him of him.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: Klay was on some booze.
[1:09:50] Speaker 4: They didn't think he was going to average 20.
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate when players come in. Steve,
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: Klay was.
[1:09:56] Speaker 5: Out there smoking that motherfucking Bay's finest, man.
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: But Jeff, he only in his third season. Klay thought
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: that he should be fired. Average 12 points.
[1:10:03] Speaker 3: Per game last year.
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: Klay was getting boozed.
[1:10:06] Speaker 5: Klay was getting talked down upon.
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: Because he wasn't making shots.
[1:10:11] Speaker 3: Averaging 18 points.
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: This is coming off of the ACL, though, wasn't it? No.
[1:10:17] Speaker 1: This is last year, the 2023. Was this because of
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: the contract, right? Yeah, this is the contract. Shooting 43%,
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: shooting 38%. He was getting like, oh, yeah, we don't
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: need him no more. They thought Pazinski can do at
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: least that. No, that's because Pazinski was making open shots.
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, I would make open shots. He ain't a better
[1:10:33] Speaker 3: shooter than Klay.
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: If Klay ain't got damn Curry on the court, of
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: course I can make some open shots. Jordan Poole proved that.
[1:10:40] Speaker 2: No, but Jim, he averaged 12 points per game last season,
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: shot 37% from three, 44%.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. He shot 37% from three? And averaged 12.
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: 12, 11.7. Can you know he round out? I dig it.
[1:10:48] Speaker 5: And they benched Clay. They benched Clay at 38% from three.
[1:10:51] Speaker 5: Averaging 18. Man, y'all slaying my Warriors, boy.
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: That's nasty.
[1:11:01] Speaker 5: Warriors top five. They just didn't want to pay Clay.
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: We all know that was the deal, though. They didn't
[1:11:05] Speaker 5: want to pay Clay that bread.
[1:11:06] Speaker 3: Warriors top five. He was going to leave after that.
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: We all knew.
[1:11:09] Speaker 3: The Warriors are not liking to pay the bread.
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: Let's shift it forward to something that Steph Curry may
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: benefit from this season. The NBA has some new foul
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: rules that will likely benefit sharpshooters like Steph. The first
[1:11:23] Speaker 2: is the high five rule where a defender cannot hit
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: a player on the hand during their shooting motion. The
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: second is a delayed contact rule, meaning if the player
[1:11:31] Speaker 2: is hit after his release, it can still count as
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: a foul. So in response to the new rule changes,
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: Steve Kerr had this to say.
[1:11:37] Speaker 12: Well, the biggest one is the high-five rule, which the
[1:11:42] Speaker 12: coaches association was part of in collaboration with the league.
[1:11:47] Speaker 12: The last few years, we've really let defenders get away
[1:11:50] Speaker 12: with fouling jump shooters on hand. We call everything down low,
[1:11:54] Speaker 12: but guys have been allowed to you know, um, foul
[1:11:58] Speaker 12: jump shooters. And, and so they're tweaking the rules on that.
[1:12:01] Speaker 12: They're not allowing as much contact. They're sure.
[1:12:06] Speaker 1: Um, it's a lot, it's, it's now able to follow.
[1:12:09] Speaker 12: Through, uh, the reason for the high five roll guy shooting.
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: You know, they literally get high five and.
[1:12:15] Speaker 12: That's now going to be a foul, um, And then
[1:12:17] Speaker 12: the other one, like where you release the shot and
[1:12:20] Speaker 12: the guy comes in and just hammers you on the wrist,
[1:12:23] Speaker 12: you know, a full second after. That was a plan
[1:12:25] Speaker 12: that the players were just taking advantage of because of
[1:12:29] Speaker 12: the rules. And we're not going to allow that anymore,
[1:12:33] Speaker 12: which is great because there was, I think there was
[1:12:36] Speaker 12: a risk of players getting hurt. So protecting shooters seems
[1:12:40] Speaker 12: to be the main theme.
[1:12:42] Speaker 3: Protecting shooters.
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: I love it.
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: I know how you guys feel, but we're going to
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: start first with Kenyon as our resident defensive expert. Are
[1:12:50] Speaker 2: you rolling with the NBA's new high-five and delayed contact
[1:12:52] Speaker 2: rules for shooters this season?
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: I don't like the delayed contact thing. I think guys
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: should be allowed to follow through on your shot. That's
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: part of it. Yeah, so if they call it a
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: high-five thing, yeah, I get it. So, guys, you should
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: be able to follow through because contesting a shot is
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: not making contact with the offensive player. Once the ball
[1:13:14] Speaker 1: is gone and damn it, halfway to the rim and
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: I hit your arm, like, I didn't affect your fucking shot.
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: The ball is gone. So, yeah, I'm on the fence
[1:13:27] Speaker 1: with that one.
[1:13:28] Speaker 5: Because you just can't come through and wipe a guy out.
[1:13:30] Speaker 3: I get that.
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: Even then, the ball is gone. You're not affecting his
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: shot unless you're affecting where he's landing. So, but yeah,
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: but the high five thing, I definitely understand it in a,
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: For them, for guys to complain about it, for actual
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: shooters to complain about they're not able to follow through
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: on their shot, complete their, yeah, so.
[1:13:52] Speaker 3: But it's all fine.
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: I mean, it's offensive way of guys finding how to
[1:13:57] Speaker 1: get an advantage, a competitive advantage. Same thing. So it
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: is what it is.
[1:14:03] Speaker 3: Swag, I see you over there smiling.
[1:14:05] Speaker 1: Oh, man, I hate that hand part of the ball bullshit.
[1:14:08] Speaker 3: It's down low. It's down low.
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Hand part of the ball.
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: But it's not, though. They know now, 24, every time
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: you touch me, it's a foul. I love this shit.
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: You don't touch me while I shoot. It's a foul.
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: I don't think it applies, though, Nick. At 24. At 24,
[1:14:26] Speaker 1: they didn't touch me. Hey, foul.
[1:14:28] Speaker 3: Check it out. Check it out.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Check Boston. It's the new NBA rule. Mr. B, how
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: you feel about this? Two new rule changes for this year.
[1:14:34] Speaker 2: I'm glad because growing up, I mean, you are taught
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: to shoot like this. So with the follow through.
[1:14:38] Speaker 6: So for somebody to slap your hands, I remember my
[1:14:40] Speaker 6: rookie year, Mike Bibby, that was his thing. When he
[1:14:43] Speaker 6: was guarding me, he was slapping my hand after shots
[1:14:45] Speaker 6: or something like that. And I just think just for
[1:14:48] Speaker 6: like injury wise, somebody come slap your hand, you could
[1:14:50] Speaker 6: dislocate a finger, break somebody's finger.
[1:14:52] Speaker 5: So I'm glad to clean it up. Cemetery Larry, how
[1:14:57] Speaker 5: you feel about? Can we clarify again what the rule is?
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: So there's... Two rules. The first is the high-five rule.
[1:15:05] Speaker 2: A defender cannot hit a player on the hand during
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: their shooting motion. Second, delayed contact rule, meaning if the
[1:15:10] Speaker 2: player is hit after his release, it can still count
[1:15:13] Speaker 2: as a foul.
[1:15:15] Speaker 3: Okay, it could still count, so it's gauging.
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: Both of those rules are shooting, can't touch him.
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: And it seems it will benefit Steph amongst other sharpshooters
[1:15:26] Speaker 2: in the league.
[1:15:26] Speaker 5: It was already benefiting Steph. It was already benefiting him.
[1:15:32] Speaker 5: It benefits him even more. Him and James Harden was
[1:15:35] Speaker 5: the ones that was getting away with all that shit.
[1:15:38] Speaker 1: Every time.
[1:15:39] Speaker 5: Like you said, if it don't affect the shot, if
[1:15:41] Speaker 5: it's already gone, man, I All of a sudden, I
[1:15:45] Speaker 5: can hit you.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: I can do whatever.
[1:15:46] Speaker 5: That's a personal thing. It's got nothing to do with
[1:15:50] Speaker 5: the shot because the shot is gone. It should go in.
[1:15:54] Speaker 5: Whatever it is, I know it's gone. That's the only
[1:15:56] Speaker 5: thing the defense can do at that point once you
[1:15:58] Speaker 5: get the shot off is either hit your hand or
[1:16:01] Speaker 5: hit your elbow or hit your leg or something like that.
[1:16:04] Speaker 5: That's just to affect you mentally. If you miss it,
[1:16:09] Speaker 5: You thinking it's because of this and it ain't. You
[1:16:11] Speaker 5: missed it because you just missed it.
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: No, it is because of that.
[1:16:13] Speaker 5: No, because you already let the shot go. No, you
[1:16:16] Speaker 5: already let the shot go. And then I hit you.
[1:16:19] Speaker 5: I need to land, right? All that landing and if
[1:16:22] Speaker 5: I hit your elbow after it's gone and I hit you.
[1:16:25] Speaker 1: Right? What's the rule? What's the rule? You got to
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: let him land, right? That's a you thing. Right, right, right.
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: That's not a... I'm not affecting your shot. You are. No,
[1:16:35] Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm affecting your mind. Right, right, right. So
[1:16:38] Speaker 1: if I walk up here, I get to hit you.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: I get to hit you. Let me do my damn thing.
[1:16:44] Speaker 1: Let me do my damn thing. Now you're in my space.
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: Now you want to over-exaggerate the fucking thought. Get in there, girl!
[1:16:54] Speaker 1: Get in there! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:16:56] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl!
[1:16:59] Speaker 5: Get in there, girl!
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:01] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:09] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: Get in there, girl!
[1:17:12] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl! Get in there, girl!
[1:17:17] Speaker 5: Get in there, Now that would be a foul with
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: the delayed contact.
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: But that's the issue. What he just said is exactly
[1:17:26] Speaker 1: why they took it away. What he said has nothing
[1:17:29] Speaker 1: to do with defending anything. It's just you doing it.
[1:17:33] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:17:34] Speaker 1: You shoot the ball. It used to be we go behind,
[1:17:36] Speaker 1: touch the back of the knee. You start doing, you know,
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: sit here, do the poking thing. Because now I know
[1:17:41] Speaker 1: you do that, so it makes me want to shoot
[1:17:44] Speaker 1: because I don't want to defend. Like I said, I
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: have to gain some type of competitive advantage. We don't
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: have none in that.
[1:17:50] Speaker 5: They take all the advantages away from the defense.
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: We have nothing. So, therefore, I've got to find some
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: tricky shit to do.
[1:17:57] Speaker 5: And that's what happened. Jumping to the side, side step.
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: All that. They're saying, let me hit his elbow at least.
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: Let me hit his elbow at least.
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: He didn't step back three times trying.
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: To get me to foul. So shit hit me. But
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. And they're saying that because it
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: has no relevance, why are you still touching the person? Right?
[1:18:23] Speaker 1: So that's just like, well, in a sense is you
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: are sending the shot because now he's consciously thinking about
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: it because I'm not, like, play defense. What do you
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: need to hit his hand for? Because if you hit,
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: if you do this... and they airball, they don't even
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: call it a block. Yeah, cool. So, it's not a block. No.
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: It's a contest. You know what I mean? It's a contest, right? So,
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You're not even calling this a
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: block shot because it went short. It is. just nothing.
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: But if we do get the block... and he stick
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: his leg out, and he fall. We get the block.
[1:18:56] Speaker 1: They call it offensive block. No, no, no. I'm not
[1:18:58] Speaker 1: just talking about that. I'm just talking about if I
[1:19:00] Speaker 1: actually get the block, and he fall, they're giving me
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: the foul on a clean block. No, no, no. On
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: a clean.
[1:19:08] Speaker 5: I come, and I tip it, and I'm anywhere near him.
[1:19:11] Speaker 5: I got to give him all this room to land.
[1:19:14] Speaker 5: We have no advantage as a defense.
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: Why are you jumping four full feet at a motherfucker? No,
[1:19:18] Speaker 1: I think because you're that good. You're that good. But
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: I get the block know what you know, yeah, what
[1:19:26] Speaker 1: you want block the ball it's kind of like a
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: it's like an invisible reset Yes, what if I run
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: into you? No, it's all into your body.
[1:19:34] Speaker 5: No, because you doing this cuz you doing this shit
[1:19:36] Speaker 5: Come on, I'm gonna shoot this.
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: One I'm gonna shoot And you go, I'm going to
[1:19:45] Speaker 1: shoot it. Watch out.
[1:19:46] Speaker 3: And you block it.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: And you still coming in to me like this. Clean play. No,
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: because I got a lay. He going to keep coming.
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: He blocked it for me. No. Why are you running
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: like this? Let's go the other way. Let's go the
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: other way. All right. Well, you shoot and I don't
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: get there. Okay. Shoot it.
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: Foul.
[1:20:03] Speaker 1: Why? Because you already shot the ball. But why are
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: you touching it? Because I can't get close to you
[1:20:09] Speaker 1: to get the block.
[1:20:10] Speaker 3: So don't do nothing.
[1:20:11] Speaker 1: Because you can't get close enough. That's on your problem.
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: But the ball is gone. But you still touched me.
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: After the ball is gone. So if I block you.
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: You do that. So I block you and then I
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: hit you. That's a foul. That's a foul. At what
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: point can I keep the block? Rashad. I have to talk. Rashad.
[1:20:29] Speaker 5: Get the fuck out of here.
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. Rashad. You got to
[1:20:35] Speaker 1: give me something. No. No. Let me hit your arm.
[1:20:38] Speaker 5: They're wrong.
[1:20:40] Speaker 1: How? If you block the ball, it's a reset.
[1:20:44] Speaker 3: You touched the ball already.
[1:20:45] Speaker 1: So if you fall on him, it's like a blocked shot.
[1:20:48] Speaker 5: They've been calling that a foul. They've been calling that
[1:20:51] Speaker 5: a foul. Simultaneously, right? But if I block it and
[1:21:02] Speaker 5: hit you at the same time, they're going to call
[1:21:05] Speaker 5: a foul. If I block it, then wipe you the
[1:21:07] Speaker 5: fuck out, there's nothing. Get your ass up. What's the
[1:21:10] Speaker 5: thing that landed? You're not letting me land. If you
[1:21:13] Speaker 5: block me and I can't land, it's still a foul.
[1:21:19] Speaker 5: The ball resets it.
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: Trust me. If I block it, it resets it. If
[1:21:28] Speaker 1: he challenges... If he challenges your shot and he didn't
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: touch nothing and he runs until you do this, that's
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: a foul. That's what they're calling a foul. Once I
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: block the shot, everything is even now.
[1:21:40] Speaker 4: No matter if you block it and you run all
[1:21:44] Speaker 4: into me, that's a foul.
[1:21:45] Speaker 1: All right, y'all crazy. All right, I see. It's a
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: loose ball. The ball is not your possession anymore. Once
[1:21:52] Speaker 1: I hit the ball, it's not your possession anymore. I
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: block it. It's a loose ball. We both going after
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: it now. You shoot the ball. Let's put your form up.
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: If I shoot the ball. I block it, and I
[1:22:00] Speaker 1: keep coming like this and fuck you up. That's not
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: a foul? I blocked it already, and I'm still coming
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: to knock your ass out. If I shot the ball,
[1:22:07] Speaker 1: and you block it, now you're running to me? I'm
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: landing on your head.
[1:22:10] Speaker 3: Nick, I used to do it all the time.
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: That's good.
[1:22:16] Speaker 5: Get to the ball first. Get to the ball first.
[1:22:22] Speaker 5: Once you hit the ball first.
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: 1969. That's why on layups when they block it and
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: they run through them, they don't call nothing. Because it
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: don't matter. Because the play is still going. If I
[1:22:34] Speaker 1: get the block, I'm taking it off.
[1:22:35] Speaker 4: I'll kick you in your chest and just keep going.
[1:22:37] Speaker 4: If you're Draymond, that's a foul.
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: Gil, question for you. How much would your scoring.
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: have benefited if these new rules were around when you
[1:22:46] Speaker 2: were playing?
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: I trained with that.
[1:22:54] Speaker 5: We got Shane Battier, man. He do this shit. Like,
[1:22:57] Speaker 5: he put his hand in there.
[1:22:58] Speaker 3: I put my face. Like, he used to. Back then,
[1:23:01] Speaker 3: they used to do this right here.
[1:23:03] Speaker 1: Right there. They'd put their hand in there, and you just, oh.
[1:23:05] Speaker 1: Pretend you got hit in the eye and stuff like that,
[1:23:07] Speaker 1: and then they called that off. But we had this
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: and that, what he does.
[1:23:11] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: All you do is just, hey!
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: You just start doing stuff like that. You know what
[1:23:14] Speaker 3: I mean?
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: Kick the field. Kick the field. They used to we
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: they used to do that, you know the crit the
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: Bruce boy put the foot stand under you, right? So
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: now when you're shooting you're trying to worry about where
[1:23:24] Speaker 1: you're laying So he don't need to do this cuz
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: you sitting there like You know Shaquille O'Neal you try
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: to pull up a jumper and he did he do
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: one of these right here You weren't about landing more
[1:23:33] Speaker 1: than somebody touching you, but so it remains to be
[1:23:35] Speaker 1: seen how the rule I was still get buckets It
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: don't matter you don't touch me right now. And I
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: mean So it remains to be seen how these rules
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: will impact the season, but how much of a learning
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: curve will it take for players?
[1:23:45] Speaker 3: How it's going to affect the.
[1:23:46] Speaker 5: Game is going to be fucking slower once again.
[1:23:48] Speaker 1: Because they're going to be calling this shit unnecessarily until
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: they really figure it out. Until they really figure it out,
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: they're going to be blowing the whistle a whole lot.
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: You can't touch this at all. The scoring should be higher, though.
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: The scoring should be higher. Yeah, scoring will be higher
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: because there will be more free throws at stop clocks.
[1:24:03] Speaker 3: But now the game will be slower and fans will
[1:24:05] Speaker 3: complain about it.
[1:24:06] Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. Benefits the three-point shooting that we
[1:24:09] Speaker 5: all doing now is more than a point shot free-throw
[1:24:11] Speaker 5: murder We find the contest those three-point shots now those
[1:24:14] Speaker 5: shots are now I don't want you contesting the shots
[1:24:22] Speaker 5: Chef like he gets hit a little bit. They don't
[1:24:24] Speaker 5: want you to contest the shot shoes this fast Yeah,
[1:24:26] Speaker 5: this is he gets a lot of contact a lot
[1:24:28] Speaker 5: of constant is gonna eat and.
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: Bronson will eat a lot. Yeah, he follows through a lot.
[1:24:35] Speaker 5: He stepped in his shot.
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: 40, they start calling these little hits right here. Here
[1:24:42] Speaker 1: and here.
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: Not being able to follow through. Oh, Trae Young.
[1:24:47] Speaker 1: Trae Young about to eat. Crooked teeth. You're going to
[1:24:50] Speaker 1: complain after I do it. The first time you shoot
[1:24:53] Speaker 1: it and I do this, you're going to be like,
[1:24:55] Speaker 1: come on, ref, what you doing?
[1:24:57] Speaker 3: Trae Young about to eat.
[1:24:57] Speaker 1: What happened to just putting your stick in?
[1:24:59] Speaker 5: Yeah, like, what happened?
[1:25:00] Speaker 4: Why do I got to touch somebody when they shoot?
[1:25:02] Speaker 3: But that's why they call it off.
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: Why is this even an issue for defenders? Now, man,
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: I can't touch this nigga. I can't touch this nigga
[1:25:12] Speaker 1: no more. So you came in after, so during my,
[1:25:16] Speaker 1: when I first came into the league and years after, right,
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: when they implemented this shit that y'all benefited from called
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: freedom of movement. You can move and no chucking. Listen, Nick,
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: Y'all wouldn't have made it, man. I'm telling you, Nick.
[1:25:33] Speaker 1: You cut the ball and you run through the lane?
[1:25:36] Speaker 1: You hit. Oh, my God. We had to hit you. Listen,
[1:25:41] Speaker 1: each big, we are going to get one on you.
[1:25:44] Speaker 1: I'm going to get a free one. Because you might
[1:25:46] Speaker 1: come behind me and set a ripped back screen one time.
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: You might get a good one. I got you, little motherfucker.
[1:25:53] Speaker 3: I got you.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: You see the leg cuts, that shit, you come down there.
[1:25:57] Speaker 3: I'm going to get you. With the elbow, too.
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a psychology problem. You got a
[1:26:04] Speaker 1: mental problem. You're going to hurt somebody. Why do you
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: think I had a hard time? No. I play physical.
[1:26:13] Speaker 1: Physical contact is... Wrong man basketball. I didn't used to
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: play that. Jailhouse ball. Jailhouse 24, you play like you're
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: in jail. But that ain't the NBA, you don't play
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: like jail.
[1:26:25] Speaker 3: No, think about us.
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: You just ain't never been to jail. It smell like
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: pine oil down here. Think about all to the gas tank, right?
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: No, they give.
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: Up Pass Green the big man. I lost two teeth
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: doing that. Yes, man. Russ great. Is it worse? They
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: go big, you know, I'm in the guards guys. You know,
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: I'm in the guards got cussed out and feel For
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: not bumping the big? Listen, I ran through him. He
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: looked up at me like, God damn, big dog, I
[1:27:00] Speaker 1: thought we was cool.
[1:27:03] Speaker 5: No, bruh.
[1:27:03] Speaker 1: You were not cool. You sound excited. Yes, yes. That's
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: what we're talking about.
[1:27:08] Speaker 5: Why are we getting on the court to hurt people?
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: It's not football. It's not basketball. No, Nick. So the
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: next time you went, the point I'm making is if
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: you went to go set that screen, guess what you're
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: going to do? You're not going to listen. Because you're
[1:27:23] Speaker 1: going to remember this. This motherfucker ran through me last time, dog.
[1:27:26] Speaker 5: I remember that shit. The pick and roll. Denver pick
[1:27:31] Speaker 5: and roll. You and Melo, you rolling down the middle.
[1:27:35] Speaker 5: If we don't bump you, what you going to go get?
[1:27:38] Speaker 5: It's a lob dunk. You had to bump him on
[1:27:41] Speaker 5: the road.
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: Hold him.
[1:27:43] Speaker 5: Give him up a little bit. Give him up a
[1:27:46] Speaker 5: little bit.
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: Stand him up. Stand him up. And the thing about me,
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: I'm going to invite that. He wants to run into you.
[1:27:54] Speaker 5: I want you to.
[1:27:54] Speaker 1: Be there so I can put my forearm in your
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: chest and you're not going to do that no more.
[1:28:01] Speaker 1: Now he's going to, the coach is like, why are
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: you not staying in Kmart?
[1:28:03] Speaker 5: Now I catch the ball at the dots instead of
[1:28:06] Speaker 5: the free throw line. That used to be the defense
[1:28:10] Speaker 5: strategies though. The defensive strategy is bump the big and
[1:28:13] Speaker 5: get back to your own. Now, it's let the motherfucker
[1:28:16] Speaker 5: run free and jump and dunk.
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: With no help. Those are called linemen. That's football.
[1:28:21] Speaker 4: Like, when you hike the ball, you block them and shit.
[1:28:23] Speaker 4: This is basketball now. We don't need to touch people.
[1:28:27] Speaker 3: On the court.
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: This is ballerinas. These are ballerinas, man.
[1:28:30] Speaker 4: You're mad because I'm shooting the ball.
[1:28:33] Speaker 1: And you can't touch me.
[1:28:34] Speaker 5: That's what I had the screens on.
[1:28:36] Speaker 1: Right here. And he mad he can't run through you.
[1:28:41] Speaker 1: What the fuck? I can't hurt this motherfucker like I
[1:28:44] Speaker 1: want to.
[1:28:45] Speaker 3: They run cross four.
[1:28:47] Speaker 1: Listen. Cross four. Listen.
[1:28:49] Speaker 5: You got to set a good screen on him and
[1:28:51] Speaker 5: then go out to get his shot.
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: Do y'all hear that? Y'all hear how y'all sound? Y'all
[1:28:55] Speaker 1: mad that they can't.
[1:28:56] Speaker 3: Hurt a person.
[1:28:57] Speaker 1: He set the screen. We was not getting hurt. I
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: can't elbow you in the face. You wasn't getting hurt.
[1:29:04] Speaker 1: Who wasn't getting hurt? I wasn't. I was so bad.
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: Call the play for you, right?
[1:29:08] Speaker 5: The first part of it is you set the dead
[1:29:11] Speaker 5: the cross three get the down screen America's play I
[1:29:14] Speaker 5: hit you in your chest now. You can't go get
[1:29:16] Speaker 5: your shot.
[1:29:18] Speaker 1: You do this you you run on you.
[1:29:22] Speaker 5: And the point guard waiting on you like come on
[1:29:24] Speaker 5: back through that The cornerbacks do that.
[1:29:26] Speaker 4: Before I guess what that's why they took it off
[1:29:28] Speaker 4: and guess what I affected the whole play I.
[1:29:34] Speaker 3: Well now you never knew.
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: That was the whole point.
[1:29:37] Speaker 5: I mean defensively you have to do your job to
[1:29:40] Speaker 5: affect the play I mean if veneers I lost a
[1:29:41] Speaker 5: runner I hit I found Dallenberg It was one of
[1:29:44] Speaker 5: those files where.
[1:29:57] Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did it, right? It was one of
[1:29:59] Speaker 1: those where he's trying to cross him. I just did
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: one of those, right? And then the next play was chin.
[1:30:05] Speaker 1: It was chin 15. I pass to go brush him. Oh,
[1:30:11] Speaker 1: I don't know. Boom.
[1:30:13] Speaker 3: Soon as I walked through.
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: Wow. Damn. Hey, I told him a meet me after
[1:30:26] Speaker 1: the game. Yes, did you meet him after the game? Yeah,
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: and today said he was a black belt So you
[1:30:32] Speaker 1: did not meet him and I won't run in my
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: locker room man. You got all about Blackville Nick get
[1:30:38] Speaker 1: screened by John Stockton.
[1:30:40] Speaker 3: It's a whole different ball game Him and Jeff want
[1:30:42] Speaker 3: to check Yeah.
[1:30:45] Speaker 1: Dirty Jeff.
[1:30:46] Speaker 5: Trying to get Carmelo on the full screen.
[1:30:49] Speaker 1: And that back screen, they cut, listen, they run to UCLA,
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: cut off, and come back up and set a back screen. Man, he,
[1:30:56] Speaker 1: Matt Harper. Matt Harper. Matt Harper is the worst. Listen, dog.
[1:30:59] Speaker 5: Hey, I hate it playing against him, bro. I'm still
[1:31:01] Speaker 5: looking for Matt. Bro, Matt is one of them. Matt
[1:31:04] Speaker 5: is one of them you like, yo, where he stay at.
[1:31:06] Speaker 5: Still looking for him on one of the cross screens.
[1:31:09] Speaker 1: Protecting him.
[1:31:11] Speaker 3: If you're in the chat.
[1:31:12] Speaker 5: You have Matt Hartford's address.
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[1:33:02] Speaker 1: You got to do half. You got to do half.
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: You got to do half. I don't need some rough
[1:33:06] Speaker 1: greens after. Yo, speaking of, like, yo, this is dead ass.
[1:33:12] Speaker 3: Like, I was, like, years in.
[1:33:14] Speaker 5: I'm in here, like, fucking 11, 10, 11, 12, before
[1:33:18] Speaker 5: I realized dudes in the league was cheating.
[1:33:20] Speaker 3: What?
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: Say it again? Before I realized niggas was cheating. I
[1:33:23] Speaker 1: learned that first. Yeah, it was my first year. Niggas
[1:33:25] Speaker 1: was out here taking V's and C's early. Early. Oh,
[1:33:28] Speaker 1: you call that cheating? You can stack in the deck. Oh, no. Oh.
[1:33:33] Speaker 1: Niggas that are taking Vs and Cs. Niggas that are 27-year-old.
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: Niggas that are 27-year-old. Niggas that are taking Vs and Cs.
[1:33:40] Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you niggas is.
[1:33:41] Speaker 1: Diabolical, man. I don't need that. I don't need none
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: of that.
[1:33:44] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: Well, I'm good. No, no, no. We wasn't taking that
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: for the girl. We was taking that for our girlfriend
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: at home. Hey, man. All that cheating we did, we
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: still got to be excited when we get home. I'm
[1:33:57] Speaker 1: not excited to see you. Go ahead. You're not ready.
[1:34:01] Speaker 1: For her, no. No, you're not ready. So you've been
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: on the road for... 12 days. Yes, having fun. And
[1:34:17] Speaker 1: you come home. Back to that. No, but I'm saying.
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: Back to that. No, I'm saying.
[1:34:21] Speaker 5: You come back home to it, right? That first one
[1:34:24] Speaker 5: better be immediately. So, therefore, you.
[1:34:29] Speaker 1: That's all. But they never know this. They never know this.
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: They never plan. They never plan. We landed. We landed.
[1:34:33] Speaker 1: Niggas been on the road for 12 days. I'm going home, man.
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: I'm going home.
[1:34:36] Speaker 5: Niggas been on the road for 12 days and come
[1:34:38] Speaker 5: home 45 minutes straight.
[1:34:39] Speaker 1: Hey, hey. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?
[1:34:47] Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Are you okay, nigga?
[1:34:48] Speaker 5: I'm just excited.
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: You ain't miss me, nigga. What is this? Nigga, 45
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: minutes straight just going.
[1:34:52] Speaker 5: She like.
[1:34:52] Speaker 1: Think about that parquet. We just knew we had to
[1:34:55] Speaker 1: be excited when we got home. 45 minutes. You've been
[1:35:12] Speaker 1: gone for 12 days on the road.
[1:35:15] Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, you done took some shit, little nigga.
[1:35:17] Speaker 1: No, you ain't done. What you know? Who you been with?
[1:35:18] Speaker 1: That's the furthest thing from her thoughts. See, you have
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: smart women. We didn't have to worry about that. It
[1:35:24] Speaker 1: was just... It was just exciting. We was excited. You
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: better turn that thing. You got five game road trip.
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: Game three, you better turn it off. Let's do it
[1:35:45] Speaker 1: back to back. I miss you. I miss you, baby.
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil's Arena.
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[1:35:58] Speaker 1: After you done got that one, you still up. Yeah,
[1:36:00] Speaker 1: I'm still excited. See, this ain't right. You still up, nigga?
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: What you doing?
[1:36:05] Speaker 3: That's when the faking come into play.
[1:36:07] Speaker 1: Right? Ah, man. All right, it's been long enough. Like,
[1:36:10] Speaker 1: he got a child at odds and shit.
[1:36:12] Speaker 3: See what we did for our girlfriends and wives.
[1:36:14] Speaker 5: Let's kick this movie back to basketball. Back to basketball, please.
[1:36:18] Speaker 1: So, sorry, you're not finna finish this, and I just
[1:36:19] Speaker 1: want you to know we can keep going.
[1:36:20] Speaker 2: Case is a very good subject, though. A very good subject.
[1:36:24] Speaker 2: And we have not an ample amount of time. We
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: have a lot of topics left to get into the show,
[1:36:27] Speaker 2: but let's shift over to Dallas, talk about the Mavs.
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: So Anthony Davis was the key Mavs acquisition in Luka
[1:36:33] Speaker 2: trade last season. Battled injuries, the team finished 10th in
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: the West before losing to the Grizzlies in the 8-9
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: playing game. So Davis underwent eye surgery this offseason and
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: will wear protective goggles for the rest of his career.
[1:36:44] Speaker 2: But let's talk about something else going on with AD.
[1:36:47] Speaker 2: At the start of training camp, AD had Mavs fans
[1:36:49] Speaker 2: concerned after showing up 15 pounds heavier than he was
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: at the start of training camp last season, going from
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: 253 to 268 pounds. So in response, Davis said, I
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: never want to come in at my playing weight because
[1:36:59] Speaker 2: then I lose weight during the season and I'm too small.
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: He also added that he can lose 10 to 12
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: pounds very quickly. But can we pull that photo, that
[1:37:07] Speaker 2: side-by-side up of.
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: I'm like, James Worthy.
[1:37:11] Speaker 2: This is what he looks like at Mavs training camp.
[1:37:13] Speaker 2: That's what he looked like last season. But should Mavs
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: fans be concerned with AD showing up to training camp
[1:37:17] Speaker 2: 15 pounds heavier than last season?
[1:37:25] Speaker 3: How many games has he played so far?
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: He's played it all.
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: Four of their preseason games. And no one's complained.
[1:37:32] Speaker 5: I watched him a little bit last night.
[1:37:35] Speaker 1: He's moving fine. Yeah.
[1:37:39] Speaker 5: I mean, listen, he's been in the league long enough
[1:37:40] Speaker 5: to know his body, right? You know, there's some guys
[1:37:43] Speaker 5: in here that can drop weight fast, right? You know, Kenyon,
[1:37:47] Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure if you went in overweight, two days
[1:37:51] Speaker 5: of training camp, you're back to normal, right? So, you know,
[1:37:54] Speaker 5: there's guys that can drop it. How old is he?
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: How old is he? 30, 31, 32. Anthony Davis.
[1:37:59] Speaker 5: 32 years old, 33 and more.
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not necessarily worried about him.
[1:38:11] Speaker 3: Any concern?
[1:38:12] Speaker 2: He got some criticism a couple weeks ago, but has
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: played in all four preseason games, like you mentioned, Gil.
[1:38:19] Speaker 5: Certain body types need to come in shape because they
[1:38:22] Speaker 5: gain weight during the season.
[1:38:23] Speaker 3: Then there's guys who lose weight.
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: Was it Paulo Ventura loses about seven pounds per game
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: from liquid? He's the type of guy that might want
[1:38:32] Speaker 1: to come in a little bit heavier knowing that he's
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: going to lose it really fast. It's not like he
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: can come in trying to... All the minutes he's going
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: to play, he's going to lose weight for sure.
[1:38:41] Speaker 3: How did you guys like coming into training camp?
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: Heavier? Lighter?
[1:38:43] Speaker 3: What was your preferred?
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: In shape. In shape. For me, in shape. I feel
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: like I have to be.
[1:38:50] Speaker 3: I gained weight during this year.
[1:38:52] Speaker 1: I've never had a weight problem. I couldn't tell you.
[1:38:55] Speaker 1: That shit didn't... Getting on the scale didn't... Wasn't a thing.
[1:38:59] Speaker 5: I didn't survive too many training camps. I was only
[1:39:02] Speaker 5: there a few times, so... It didn't matter whether I
[1:39:05] Speaker 5: was in good shape or not, nigga. You gonna make
[1:39:08] Speaker 5: this training camp or not? I ain't trying to be
[1:39:10] Speaker 5: in the best shape. I didn't see motherfuckers come in.
[1:39:15] Speaker 5: So we from the old school training camp days. Niggas
[1:39:17] Speaker 5: come in, boy, what you been doing all summer?
[1:39:20] Speaker 1: You be sitting there like, yo, this is about to hurt.
[1:39:27] Speaker 1: You looking at them like, yeah, this is about to
[1:39:28] Speaker 1: hurt you, bruh. You're going, you're going.
[1:39:31] Speaker 3: And they're throwing up and all that. Like, you didn't
[1:39:33] Speaker 3: run nothing? Nah.
[1:39:35] Speaker 1: You didn't touch the ball? Nah.
[1:39:37] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:39:37] Speaker 3: I was out drinking last night.
[1:39:38] Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I was out drinking last night. Huh?
[1:39:42] Speaker 1: I can't believe it's people that do that. Because we had.
[1:39:43] Speaker 5: They use, they use training. Because we had 30 days, right?
[1:39:47] Speaker 5: So they had, we had 30 days.
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: We had 30 days of training?
[1:39:50] Speaker 3: No, no.
[1:39:51] Speaker 1: No, we had 30 days before the season started. Oh, okay.
[1:39:53] Speaker 1: So two weeks of training camp, and then preseason.
[1:39:55] Speaker 3: We had two weeks of training camp, then preseason. Did
[1:39:57] Speaker 3: we play seven games?
[1:39:59] Speaker 1: And we practiced in full practice. It wasn't no 30-minute practices.
[1:40:02] Speaker 1: We practiced, and then we was like a week.
[1:40:04] Speaker 3: By the time you got there.
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, by the time we got there.
[1:40:06] Speaker 3: When I first got in. It was still two days
[1:40:08] Speaker 3: when I got in.
[1:40:09] Speaker 5: We had mini camps before training camp. So we had
[1:40:12] Speaker 5: the small little mini camp, and then we had training camp,
[1:40:15] Speaker 5: and then we had the preseason practices. And then you
[1:40:17] Speaker 5: had to go to Gers up in Vegas. Man, then
[1:40:19] Speaker 5: we had Gers. You got to do that first. What
[1:40:21] Speaker 5: the fuck? That shit was nasty.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: And then most veteran teams, right, y'all came in shape, right?
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: That's right. Because y'all didn't really, did y'all do training
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: really hard? In Denver, in Jersey? What was it, Summer League?
[1:40:33] Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, in Jersey. The easy run?
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, Byron Scott. Oh, yeah, Byron. Yeah, Byron, yeah.
[1:40:37] Speaker 3: But last year, we had, boy. Minicamp. And then going
[1:40:41] Speaker 3: to Denver, doing training camp in Denver. Show up out
[1:40:45] Speaker 3: of shape if you want to.
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: Out to two. Ended up in the.
[1:40:48] Speaker 3: Back of that motherfucking ambulance.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: We was good, huh? Nothing.
[1:40:51] Speaker 10: I'm talking about like.
[1:40:54] Speaker 5: Our training camp was good. We had to learn offense, coach.
[1:40:58] Speaker 5: We got to learn offense, coach. We got to spend
[1:41:00] Speaker 5: a whole time doing this.
[1:41:02] Speaker 1: We got to spend a whole time. No matter what
[1:41:03] Speaker 1: you do, you'll never take my spot. That's what I said? Oh,
[1:41:05] Speaker 1: my bad.
[1:41:11] Speaker 3: I'm just being honest with you.
[1:41:12] Speaker 1: We were busting ass. He said, you know what?
[1:41:14] Speaker 4: No matter what you do here in this practice, you're
[1:41:16] Speaker 4: going to still be on that bitch cheering for me.
[1:41:18] Speaker 1: I said, dog, you're going to tell people shit. You're
[1:41:21] Speaker 1: going to tell people shit like that. You're still going
[1:41:23] Speaker 1: to be cheering for me. So you bitch niggas get
[1:41:28] Speaker 1: disrespectful in practice. What?
[1:41:31] Speaker 5: You might be having a good day, you might.
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: Be having a good week, but the only thing I
[1:41:40] Speaker 1: have is my starting job. And I'm going to let
[1:41:43] Speaker 1: you know. I ain't going nowhere.
[1:41:46] Speaker 5: I ain't going nowhere, nigga.
[1:41:47] Speaker 1: I'm not even in his position, though. Steve, I feel
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: like I could get Steve. You talking.
[1:41:54] Speaker 3: I know, but.
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: You just going to be ready. You know what I'm
[1:41:58] Speaker 1: telling you? I'm going to be cheering for him no
[1:41:59] Speaker 1: matter what. I don't play a point guard. That's the
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: only thing.
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: How you going to tell me that I'm going to
[1:42:05] Speaker 4: play your position no matter what you do?
[1:42:08] Speaker 1: No matter what you do, brother. A rook, man. J.R.
[1:42:12] Speaker 3: Used to be listening, boy.
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: I know J.R. used to go, hey, man. Torch your
[1:42:17] Speaker 1: motherfuckers in practice, dog. And Tay used to be trying
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: to talk back and forth. I was like, shut up, man.
[1:42:22] Speaker 1: He cooking you.
[1:42:23] Speaker 5: Bro, this man is like, and JR letting him know, too.
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:42:28] Speaker 3: But that's the worst.
[1:42:29] Speaker 5: The sixth man, the sixth man be the worst. He's
[1:42:33] Speaker 5: the best one in practice. Because he wants to be
[1:42:35] Speaker 5: the star, man. He wants to be the star. So
[1:42:38] Speaker 5: he going full bore. And he got the second unit
[1:42:41] Speaker 5: to pass him the ball.
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: The whole time. I know all about it. I know
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: all about it.
[1:42:47] Speaker 5: Hyping them, too.
[1:42:48] Speaker 3: Get them.
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: Come on, man. I'd be like that. I used to
[1:42:50] Speaker 1: go get mad and shoot around all that shit. They
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: got to shoot all the shoot around.
[1:42:55] Speaker 5: And go hard, too. It's a white walk-on cut. It's
[1:42:59] Speaker 5: supposed to be just walk-through. Nah, nigga, I'm thinking that man.
[1:43:02] Speaker 1: What? I'm we gonna be mad as hell cuz I'm
[1:43:06] Speaker 1: shooting y'all niggas gonna know you you gonna be bad
[1:43:08] Speaker 1: cuz you gonna walk through that motherfucking to walk through
[1:43:11] Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep shooting everybody out like you know
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: what fuck this shit Man, you're going to be T-Mac today. A.I. A.I. today. A.I. today.
[1:43:30] Speaker 5: Oh, A.I.? Yeah.
[1:43:31] Speaker 1: That's the way to be, all right? Yeah. Oh, shit.
[1:43:34] Speaker 1: Crossing over him.
[1:43:35] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: T-Mac has he pulled. Man, that ain't no game.
[1:43:38] Speaker 5: Robinson cut. Nigga, Michael Redd. You Michael Redd today. I
[1:43:41] Speaker 5: get to shoot him when I catch it.
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: Nigga, do that shit. Nigga, tell your man, you don't
[1:43:44] Speaker 1: do that in the game. Charlie Bellingham. So, let's get
[1:43:48] Speaker 1: back to Anthony Davis, if you guys don't know. He
[1:43:50] Speaker 1: looked solid in preseason.
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: He had 25.6 boards against the Jazz on Monday, but
[1:43:54] Speaker 2: played center. for a good portion of that game. As
[1:43:56] Speaker 2: you may recall, AD has said repeatedly, he's a power forward.
[1:44:00] Speaker 2: He doesn't want to play center that much. And he
[1:44:03] Speaker 2: had 18 points, nine boards in the Mavs' final preseason
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: game Wednesday against an undermanned Lakers squad.
[1:44:10] Speaker 3: So, good.
[1:44:10] Speaker 2: You talked about AD coming in to fill the void
[1:44:12] Speaker 2: of Luka to get Mavs fans back believing in the organization.
[1:44:15] Speaker 2: How much pressure is on AD to make this Mavs
[1:44:17] Speaker 2: squad a contender in a tough Western Conference?
[1:44:21] Speaker 5: I think, to be honest, as we can see... I
[1:44:25] Speaker 5: don't want to be rude, but I don't think the
[1:44:27] Speaker 5: Mavs fans really are paying attention to Anthony Davis. If
[1:44:31] Speaker 5: he brings them something, he brings them something in that game.
[1:44:34] Speaker 1: They have hope.
[1:44:35] Speaker 5: They got a replacement that basically took the pressure off,
[1:44:39] Speaker 5: and that is Cooper Flagg. Cooper Flagg is the face
[1:44:43] Speaker 5: of that franchise now, so it's not about AD and Luka, like,
[1:44:48] Speaker 5: During the game, it wasn't nothing about AD and Luke.
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: The Cooper flag is what's saved. Taking that attention. It's
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: taking that attention. How he plays, they're going to be
[1:44:57] Speaker 1: cheering for him. It's Cooper flag mania right now. They're
[1:45:01] Speaker 1: putting him at the point.
[1:45:02] Speaker 5: At the point, he's going to play very well, right,
[1:45:05] Speaker 5: at that position because, obviously, taller, more.
[1:45:08] Speaker 3: Athletic, right?
[1:45:09] Speaker 5: He can pass the ball, but he gets to basically
[1:45:11] Speaker 5: do whatever he wants to do.
[1:45:13] Speaker 3: So, you know.
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: Andy Davis can thank him.
[1:45:16] Speaker 5: So Andy Davis can go out here and average 28-12
[1:45:18] Speaker 5: and don't even have to really worry about people criticizing him.
[1:45:21] Speaker 2: So you feel like Flagg is taking some of that
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: pressure off of Andy?
[1:45:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: They got somebody to pay attention to. All of it.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: All of it. Cooper Flagg going to be a rookie
[1:45:30] Speaker 1: of the year. I like him at the one, too,
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: until Kyrie comes back. That's the thing. That's fluff. Go ahead.
[1:45:35] Speaker 4: I'll be making a one, like, point guard position seem
[1:45:37] Speaker 4: so easy nowadays.
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: Like, everybody can just play the one.
[1:45:40] Speaker 3: Hey, you know what? You play the one.
[1:45:41] Speaker 1: Because it's not a position. It's not a position no more. Yeah,
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: it's not a position no more. Nobody's pressuring the ball
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: no more. Yeah, yeah. Nobody's picking up full court. Nobody's
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: picking up full court. Traditional point guard. Let him try
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: to bring that ball up against that guy, that boy
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: in Miami, that Davion Mitchell boy. Man.
[1:45:55] Speaker 3: They all got smart.
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, go bigger.
[1:45:58] Speaker 3: All these owners went away.
[1:46:00] Speaker 5: From the idea of Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson made everybody
[1:46:06] Speaker 5: believe the point guard was this playmaker when he is
[1:46:10] Speaker 5: this unicorn of a 6'9 guy.
[1:46:12] Speaker 3: You gave him the ball. He has vision. If you
[1:46:14] Speaker 3: start looking up history.
[1:46:17] Speaker 1: That didn't exist. A point guard being your best player
[1:46:21] Speaker 1: winning championships as a facilitator didn't work.
[1:46:24] Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas was a score, guard, play.
[1:46:27] Speaker 1: Him and Steph Curry, the only two guards in the
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: last 40, 50 years being that small winning championships. So
[1:46:34] Speaker 1: if your point guard was the guy like the Chris
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: Pauls and.
[1:46:38] Speaker 3: I'm making your team better, then.
[1:46:41] Speaker 3: You wasn't winning championships.
[1:46:43] Speaker 1: So when you look at Phil Jackson and he, all
[1:46:45] Speaker 1: his guys are about six, four to six, six spot
[1:46:49] Speaker 1: up guys, defending guys.
[1:46:50] Speaker 3: They never played point guard.
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: Really?
[1:46:52] Speaker 3: The ball went to our best player.
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: And then everybody started following that model. But that's not
[1:46:58] Speaker 1: a scoring guard, though. So now you got LeBron James
[1:47:01] Speaker 1: come in, and you're like, all right, he plays the point.
[1:47:03] Speaker 1: We can just get two guys to guard the guards,
[1:47:06] Speaker 1: but we're going to put the ball in his hands.
[1:47:08] Speaker 3: He can see over the defense. You know what I mean?
[1:47:10] Speaker 5: So then you got Jokic, get him the ball. He's
[1:47:14] Speaker 5: our point guard. You got Luka.
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: So you started realizing that Jason Tatum. What I'm saying
[1:47:20] Speaker 1: is Jason Tatum. Drew Holliday wasn't playing the point guard.
[1:47:27] Speaker 1: Get that ball to Jason. So there's no point guard
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: to set plays up anymore. I don't need you to
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: set the play up. I'm just going to give it
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: to my best player. I get what you're.
[1:47:36] Speaker 3: Saying, Nick.
[1:47:37] Speaker 5: You're saying instead of Magic Johnson actually being a point guard,
[1:47:42] Speaker 5: which he was not, he was a player who could
[1:47:45] Speaker 5: play point guard.
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: He can play the point guard. Cooper, not no fucking
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: point guard.
[1:47:51] Speaker 5: But he can play, run the play, bring it up,
[1:47:55] Speaker 5: start the play. Joker, he can dribble it up. He
[1:47:57] Speaker 5: can start with you starting the offense. Now, what do
[1:48:01] Speaker 5: you do to the traditional point guard? You erase him
[1:48:04] Speaker 5: from the equation. His job was to bring the ball up,
[1:48:08] Speaker 5: Call to play where everybody else gets in position and
[1:48:11] Speaker 5: executes that. Now we don't have that where it's like,
[1:48:14] Speaker 5: now you're just a small guy.
[1:48:16] Speaker 1: You're just a small guy. That's what happened. Derrick Fisher,
[1:48:18] Speaker 1: you don't come up here and run no play. Sit
[1:48:20] Speaker 1: your ass in that corner. You guard the other small guy.
[1:48:24] Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, sit your ass in that corner. You're not having,
[1:48:27] Speaker 1: you know, Brian Shaw, two assists. Kenny Smith, two assists.
[1:48:30] Speaker 1: Like these guys wasn't sitting here getting 10, 15 assists
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: because that means my best players is not getting the ball. Right?
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: The Steve Nash types wasn't actually winning championships. Yeah. Right?
[1:48:41] Speaker 3: So, like, when you're.
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: Looking at Cooper Flagg, do you want Cooper Flagg throwing
[1:48:44] Speaker 1: you the lob and doing you backdoor at 6'10? Or
[1:48:48] Speaker 1: do you want a small guy trying to make that pass?
[1:48:50] Speaker 3: They realize, get that ball. Same thing I'm saying about Houston.
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: Get that, sit that ball like that.
[1:48:53] Speaker 3: Same thing with Houston. Same thing.
[1:48:55] Speaker 1: Sit there and get that ball up. We sit here
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: and throw that over there. We got this an advantage.
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: Changes the game, though. Putting the ball in Yanni's hand.
[1:49:00] Speaker 1: Chris Webber. Putting the ball in Yanni's hand. Chris Webber's hand.
[1:49:03] Speaker 3: I'm pressing him.
[1:49:04] Speaker 1: Dudes have an L, like. You're going to pressure? Then
[1:49:06] Speaker 1: it's somebody else.
[1:49:06] Speaker 3: Cooper Flagg. Then they just going to have him bring
[1:49:08] Speaker 3: the ball to the floor.
[1:49:09] Speaker 1: That's all. That's what I'm saying. Let's go.
[1:49:11] Speaker 5: Who are you to pressure him? What position? What player
[1:49:14] Speaker 5: are you going to be? Are you going to put
[1:49:16] Speaker 5: a guard in? I'm letting these bigs bring it up
[1:49:18] Speaker 5: so freely. Now we're back. Anthony Davis is bringing it up.
[1:49:22] Speaker 5: Who's going to guard him?
[1:49:22] Speaker 1: Another big? I'll just kick the ball ahead. Get the
[1:49:25] Speaker 1: ball back to me. You know what I'm saying? Giannis
[1:49:27] Speaker 1: is bringing the ball up. Who's guarding him?
[1:49:30] Speaker 3: His band?
[1:49:33] Speaker 1: You got to think about who's guarding them. I'm pressuring.
[1:49:37] Speaker 5: If I'm playing against teams that want to bring the big,
[1:49:40] Speaker 5: bring the ball up, we are pushing up.
[1:49:43] Speaker 1: With the guards.
[1:49:44] Speaker 5: So when we get to half court, whenever they try
[1:49:47] Speaker 5: to do that, we go into the post and we
[1:49:49] Speaker 5: just switch off. Switch off down the line. Hey, you
[1:49:52] Speaker 5: take him big and I'm going to stay up top.
[1:49:54] Speaker 5: We're going to a zone. That's what we're going to do.
[1:49:58] Speaker 1: You are the four men guarding him. You are also big.
[1:50:04] Speaker 1: So he comes down, he passes up, and the guards
[1:50:06] Speaker 1: guard him, and then you're just going to switch off?
[1:50:07] Speaker 1: Switch off. No, I can't do that. Switch off. It ain't.
[1:50:11] Speaker 1: It's a pass off zone. It's a pass off zone.
[1:50:15] Speaker 1: You're not really looking at it as a pass off zone.
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: So now you're these dumbass basketball players that's in the
[1:50:19] Speaker 1: NBA now to think. No, that's what I'm doing. Think
[1:50:22] Speaker 1: about what I'm saying. Yes.
[1:50:23] Speaker 5: You're bringing the ball. All right Cooper bag. Yes, your
[1:50:26] Speaker 5: garden Cooper. Yep.
[1:50:27] Speaker 1: Okay full court.
[1:50:28] Speaker 5: Yeah up until the point where he's like, damn, I
[1:50:30] Speaker 5: already get off the ball before now at he gets
[1:50:32] Speaker 5: off the ball. He's like I'm about to run him
[1:50:34] Speaker 5: to the post. They're going to throw you're going to
[1:50:35] Speaker 5: turn around you're going to say Invert.
[1:50:38] Speaker 1: Invert, nigga. As soon as you turn the room, you're
[1:50:41] Speaker 1: going to throw the ball back to him and he's
[1:50:43] Speaker 1: going to shoot the three.
[1:50:43] Speaker 5: There ain't no basketball player. I'm saying that you're saying
[1:50:46] Speaker 5: they're dumb enough. I'm saying they're not smart enough to
[1:50:48] Speaker 5: make that fucking play. They're going to try to get it,
[1:50:50] Speaker 5: to get it, to get it. Get it, to get it,
[1:50:52] Speaker 5: to get it. We already switched off. Or somebody might
[1:50:53] Speaker 5: shoot it before they pass it. Yeah, we already switched off.
[1:50:57] Speaker 5: It's only 15, 40 seconds that you got to do
[1:50:59] Speaker 5: it anyway.
[1:51:01] Speaker 1: So what's going to happen is I have the flag
[1:51:05] Speaker 1: at the point, right?
[1:51:06] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:51:07] Speaker 5: Meaning, you as a point is going to not guard
[1:51:11] Speaker 5: Kyrie and you're going to guard me.
[1:51:14] Speaker 1: Kyrie's not there. Yep.
[1:51:16] Speaker 3: That's the reason why Cooper bringing it up.
[1:51:18] Speaker 1: What's my point? Because Kyrie not there.
[1:51:20] Speaker 5: So, okay.
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: Who's my point guard? D'Angelo Russell.
[1:51:22] Speaker 10: Okay.
[1:51:23] Speaker 5: Okay.
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell.
[1:51:24] Speaker 5: It's being guarded by his big man.
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: Hey, D'Angelo.
[1:51:28] Speaker 13: Here.
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: Go. No way. Yes. No way.
[1:51:30] Speaker 5: That's why they not letting D'Angelo have the ball and
[1:51:35] Speaker 5: the point guard position.
[1:51:35] Speaker 1: Because if you could just say, D'Angelo, go. Go. All right.
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: Five men on you now. If you are going to guard,
[1:51:42] Speaker 1: you're going to.
[1:51:47] Speaker 5: So I'm bringing the ball. Brandon is going to guard him.
[1:51:50] Speaker 5: Brandon is going to guard me bringing the ball to
[1:51:52] Speaker 5: the floor. Whoever is supposed to be guarding Brandon is
[1:51:55] Speaker 5: guarding me now. Yes. And then we gonna reset. I'm
[1:52:00] Speaker 5: gonna attack.
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: The big man now. There ain't no fucking attack.
[1:52:05] Speaker 14: We get back, we load up. So what about Kenyon?
[1:52:08] Speaker 14: So when I leave Kenyon, let's go to Kenyon. No,
[1:52:10] Speaker 14: he said I'm about to leave Kenyon. Brandon going to
[1:52:18] Speaker 14: leave me and run and.
[1:52:19] Speaker 1: Go, how?
[1:52:20] Speaker 5: I'm on a fast break. You're picking him up full court.
[1:52:22] Speaker 5: It ain't no fast break. It's the ball in. I'm
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: picking up the ball. Brandon is picking up the ball.
[1:52:28] Speaker 5: Brandon is picking up the ball. Y'all say, oh, we're
[1:52:30] Speaker 5: just going to throw it ahead.
[1:52:31] Speaker 1: We're going to.
[1:52:32] Speaker 5: Throw it ahead and you're just going to go iso
[1:52:35] Speaker 5: on the field. Now, we're going to load up and say, listen,
[1:52:37] Speaker 5: we're going to make the play.
[1:52:39] Speaker 1: Cooper's flag is a three. Who's taking that shot? Cooper's
[1:52:42] Speaker 1: flag is a three. Why are you acting like it's
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: a three?
[1:52:46] Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on, because I don't think
[1:52:48] Speaker 5: y'all are paying attention to what y'all saying.
[1:52:49] Speaker 3: There's no offense. Okay, let me just paint the picture.
[1:52:52] Speaker 3: All right, let's paint the picture.
[1:52:53] Speaker 1: He's the point guard. He's the three, though. No.
[1:52:55] Speaker 3: But the point guard is going to guard him.
[1:52:56] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
[1:52:57] Speaker 3: The point guard is going to guard him.
[1:52:59] Speaker 1: I'm going to guard him.
[1:53:00] Speaker 3: So you're going to pick him up 94 feet.
[1:53:02] Speaker 1: Yes. I'm just off guard. So that means his new
[1:53:08] Speaker 1: man has.
[1:53:09] Speaker 3: To guard me.
[1:53:10] Speaker 1: Right? Right? Hold on. Where do you think I'm standing
[1:53:16] Speaker 1: with this big man guarding me? It's not a big man.
[1:53:19] Speaker 1: It's like a three-man. It's a three-man. Where is this six-man,
[1:53:23] Speaker 1: three-man guarding me? Jalen Daniels. Jalen Daniels guarding you. Let's
[1:53:29] Speaker 1: talk about where you at. Oh, damn. They don't even
[1:53:31] Speaker 1: come up.
[1:53:31] Speaker 3: You guys like to talk.
[1:53:33] Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
[1:53:34] Speaker 5: So you talking about bring them in. We talking about
[1:53:38] Speaker 5: I'm bringing them in.
[1:53:40] Speaker 1: This is Kingen at the point, right?
[1:53:43] Speaker 3: Ball here.
[1:53:44] Speaker 5: This guy's got the inbound guys down here.
[1:53:47] Speaker 1: Down there. All we got is him. Here.
[1:53:50] Speaker 3: Now you're going.
[1:53:51] Speaker 1: To invert here. No, this is Brandon up here. Brandon's
[1:53:55] Speaker 1: guard Kingen. Uh-huh. I'm here. All the way down. I'm
[1:53:59] Speaker 1: here right here.
[1:54:00] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:54:00] Speaker 1: With Brendan's, with Kenyon's man. And this guy. This guy's back. Uh-huh.
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: So we're, it's four on five. Okay, so four on five.
[1:54:10] Speaker 5: We actually got, we got four defenders back and we
[1:54:12] Speaker 5: only got this motherfucker pressuring the ball.
[1:54:14] Speaker 3: He's gonna pass the ball straight to me.
[1:54:16] Speaker 1: Just get back.
[1:54:17] Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
[1:54:17] Speaker 5: Now Brandon gets back. There's no guy. I'm gonna fast break.
[1:54:22] Speaker 5: There's no That's the biggest man on the team. I
[1:54:25] Speaker 5: am the fastest guy. This is what I'm saying. I'm
[1:54:28] Speaker 5: the fastest guy going at the smallest. But this guy
[1:54:32] Speaker 5: can help.
[1:54:33] Speaker 1: This guy can help. He's the three man. This guy
[1:54:37] Speaker 1: can help. Listen, I turn. He's the three man. You
[1:54:40] Speaker 1: involved about me, right?
[1:54:43] Speaker 5: I turn.
[1:54:43] Speaker 1: I see Brandon is on me. I don't want to
[1:54:45] Speaker 1: dribble against Brandon.
[1:54:47] Speaker 5: I'm going to throw that motherfucking ball. But they're still, listen,
[1:54:50] Speaker 5: the guy who's inbounding the ball. No one's guarding him.
[1:54:53] Speaker 5: Think about what I'm saying. No one's guarding the inbounder.
[1:54:56] Speaker 5: So his man is back. He's a free man.
[1:54:59] Speaker 1: But he can actually go double that guy y'all talking
[1:55:02] Speaker 1: about throw the ball to.
[1:55:03] Speaker 3: He's not.
[1:55:03] Speaker 1: He can. But you created a fast break. No, we're not.
[1:55:08] Speaker 1: Because I have that fast. I got my fastest guy.
[1:55:13] Speaker 1: And the best defender. I know the best defender is
[1:55:16] Speaker 1: guarding Cooper. Every team, the small four is the best defender.
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: Damn near the.
[1:55:20] Speaker 5: Point guard is only to put pressure, slow the ball up.
[1:55:23] Speaker 5: If you're going to pitch ahead, we still got four
[1:55:25] Speaker 5: defenders back.
[1:55:26] Speaker 3: You got the slow.
[1:55:28] Speaker 1: Offensive players up here. We got four defenders here.
[1:55:31] Speaker 5: We have a freelance guy that can literally throw it
[1:55:34] Speaker 5: ahead to Brandon's guy.
[1:55:36] Speaker 1: He is there for a two on one. My fastest
[1:55:40] Speaker 1: guy with the ball, my real point guard with the
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: ball is going against the slowest people. He created a
[1:55:45] Speaker 1: fast break. He's going to make a play. Going full speed.
[1:55:48] Speaker 1: Who are we saying is going to do that? And
[1:55:52] Speaker 1: what shots are they trying to get in there now?
[1:55:54] Speaker 1: He's going to create a problem. They're going to get
[1:55:56] Speaker 1: a weak side three. That's the shot they want.
[1:56:00] Speaker 5: No, you want Cooper flag to have to be the
[1:56:02] Speaker 5: point guard.
[1:56:02] Speaker 1: That's what y'all want.
[1:56:03] Speaker 5: Y'all want Cooper flag to be the point. We're taking
[1:56:06] Speaker 5: that away from y'all. So now y'all throwing it ahead,
[1:56:09] Speaker 5: doing some other shit.
[1:56:10] Speaker 1: To the real point guard. To who? You're giving it
[1:56:13] Speaker 1: to D'Angelo Russell. You're giving it to D'Angelo. So now
[1:56:17] Speaker 1: y'all offense has changed. Your offense has changed.
[1:56:20] Speaker 5: D'Angelo is going to get in the gap, and guess
[1:56:22] Speaker 5: who opened the fucking corner? It's two guys on D'Angelo.
[1:56:25] Speaker 1: No, hey, it's two guys on D low you thinking
[1:56:29] Speaker 1: about what I'm saying There's no one So he's gonna
[1:56:31] Speaker 1: inbound he's gonna sprint down, right?
[1:56:32] Speaker 5: Right, right because he's gonna be waiting to see if
[1:56:34] Speaker 5: he's gonna he's gonna probably try to.
[1:56:36] Speaker 15: Screen for Cooper Okay, but say Cooper don't want to dribble.
[1:56:50] Speaker 15: He just want to pass it up.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: Who is he passing it to? My point guard.
[1:56:53] Speaker 5: If we're up guarding him, the other guy that's guarding
[1:56:57] Speaker 5: the inbounder is back with him.
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: So there's not going to just be no turning point
[1:57:02] Speaker 1: or all that shit.
[1:57:03] Speaker 5: Still have to now slow the ball down and wait
[1:57:05] Speaker 5: for those other two offensive players.
[1:57:07] Speaker 1: You don't to come down. We don't We heard you
[1:57:09] Speaker 1: we heard you shot Mugula the chatters call we will
[1:57:12] Speaker 1: cook them we heard we heard you I We've done
[1:57:26] Speaker 1: this plenty of times. We came in the era where
[1:57:30] Speaker 1: they did press. Yes. I was on the back line.
[1:57:34] Speaker 3: Under press.
[1:57:36] Speaker 1: So I can get the ball and go against whoever's
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: sitting back there. Because those guys are so fit. The
[1:57:40] Speaker 1: guards who can guard me, they're in the front doing
[1:57:42] Speaker 1: a 2-2-1. So smart coaches reverse it. Put Karan and
[1:57:47] Speaker 1: Antoine there. No, Karan and they put Karan and AD there.
[1:57:52] Speaker 1: They put me in the back line.
[1:57:54] Speaker 3: The ball went from them to me.
[1:57:56] Speaker 1: I'm gone. That's it. So let's pretend.
[1:57:59] Speaker 5: Let's play. Who is like you in the league right now?
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: No. let's play Indiana. Let's play Indiana. Let's play Maxie.
[1:58:09] Speaker 5: But we're talking about the Dallas Mavericks.
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: We're not talking about.
[1:58:13] Speaker 5: Now you just asked, who is in the league like him?
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: Now you want to talk about.
[1:58:18] Speaker 5: Because we're talking about the Dallas Mavericks and Cooper Flagg.
[1:58:22] Speaker 1: Who in the league is like you? I'll give you
[1:58:23] Speaker 1: two names. We're only talking about the Dallas Mariners. Like, imagine.
[1:58:27] Speaker 5: Like, no, what I'm saying is, let's say Cooper, the four.
[1:58:30] Speaker 5: He's the point, but the four is going.
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: To guard him. He's the three. He's the three.
[1:58:35] Speaker 3: AD wants to play four.
[1:58:36] Speaker 1: You got to lie. You got to have the three
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: man guard him. If they play Minnesota, I'm going to...
[1:58:42] Speaker 1: What's the name? Daniels? Daniels. Press the motherfucker. Press the ball.
[1:58:45] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[1:58:46] Speaker 3: That's an even matchup.
[1:58:47] Speaker 1: Pass.
[1:58:48] Speaker 5: No, that's a defender.
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: He will make him work. Pass. They're the same size, Nick.
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: Now next team. Nick, they're the same size. You're talking about.
[1:58:56] Speaker 5: This as, I've got 30 teams to do this to.
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: You acting like the center is guarding the guard.
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: You putting somebody else on foot. There's Nick. He is
[1:59:07] Speaker 1: the three man.
[1:59:08] Speaker 3: Nick, you change your matchups, right?
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: So if you have your point guard guarding your foreman, right?
[1:59:16] Speaker 5: Just forehand why he's bringing it up. Can I fucking talk?
[1:59:19] Speaker 1: I bet you niggas talk. Let me speak. If you
[1:59:22] Speaker 1: put your point guard on the foreman, right?
[1:59:26] Speaker 5: That's who he's matched up on defensively, right?
[1:59:29] Speaker 1: Pick him up. To guard him. At any point, front court,
[1:59:33] Speaker 1: back court, between that 94-50. It's how big the basketball
[1:59:39] Speaker 1: court is. Yes and no. When you cross the line
[1:59:42] Speaker 1: to fucking play basketball, it's five on five.
[1:59:44] Speaker 5: Yes and no.
[1:59:46] Speaker 1: So if the one man on your team is going
[1:59:50] Speaker 1: to four men on the other team, how else are
[1:59:54] Speaker 1: the matchups going to go? You can put the five
[1:59:57] Speaker 1: men on the five man.
[1:59:58] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm, right three man on the three man the.
[2:00:00] Speaker 1: Three but what so is it not going to be
[2:00:02] Speaker 1: a mismatch with the no, it's no.
[2:00:06] Speaker 5: They're not playing Cooper flag at the three. I'm saying
[2:00:09] Speaker 5: they are at the four. He's playing the point guard.
[2:00:12] Speaker 5: He's no longer the four man. They have someone else
[2:00:16] Speaker 5: at the four. He's playing the point guard. So that
[2:00:19] Speaker 5: means it's Cooper and four other guys.
[2:00:22] Speaker 1: Just because we start the game. We start the game
[2:00:25] Speaker 1: and there's a press conference. I'll be like, you know what?
[2:00:27] Speaker 1: I'm going to put Steph Curry at the center. What
[2:00:31] Speaker 1: did they just say? They were trying out Cooper Flagg
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: at the point guard. Did they just say that? It's Steph,
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: my fucking five man. If I come into the press,
[2:00:39] Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, today we're going to experiment
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: and start Steph at the five.
[2:00:42] Speaker 3: The lineup they rolled out.
[2:00:44] Speaker 1: This is the lineup they rolled out against the Lakers.
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: So they had Cooper Flagg at the one.
[2:00:54] Speaker 2: Play at the 2, P.J. Washington at the 3, Anthony
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: Davis at the 4, Derek Lively.
[2:00:57] Speaker 5: At the 5.
[2:00:57] Speaker 1: No point guard was in the game. There was no
[2:01:00] Speaker 1: point guard in the game. Can you listen to me?
[2:01:03] Speaker 1: Just so they sound stupid, who guarded him? Man, press
[2:01:05] Speaker 1: that whole goddamn thing. What are they talking about? Press
[2:01:09] Speaker 1: that whole fucking thing. P.J. Washington. We're up on them.
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: We're up on them. Everybody, we're up. We're up. And, listen,
[2:01:22] Speaker 1: whoever thought of the inbound. When Gabe Isten was up?
[2:01:25] Speaker 1: Throw it. That's Gabe Isten. Put him in the post.
[2:01:29] Speaker 1: How many points? 28. Like, y'all like, what are y'all
[2:01:32] Speaker 1: talking about?
[2:01:34] Speaker 3: Last night?
[2:01:34] Speaker 1: If you did a... I'm saying Anthony Davis.
[2:01:38] Speaker 2: I'm going to say that Mavs squad did not look
[2:01:40] Speaker 2: good against the Lakers team that didn't have four of
[2:01:42] Speaker 2: their starters.
[2:01:42] Speaker 1: But if my starting... If my starting... If my starting
[2:01:46] Speaker 1: point guard... If my starting point guard is 6'10. You're
[2:01:51] Speaker 1: going to put your point guard on me. If you're
[2:01:55] Speaker 1: going to put the point guard on me, I don't
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: need him dribbling. We're just going to put him in
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: the post, right? If you invert yours and put a
[2:02:01] Speaker 1: bigger guy on him, I'm going to pick him. I'm
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: going to let him point because your guy is not
[2:02:05] Speaker 1: used to. That's why LeBron was great at the point
[2:02:08] Speaker 1: guard position because.
[2:02:09] Speaker 5: They wasn't you.
[2:02:10] Speaker 1: Ron Artest picking him up full court looked dumb. He
[2:02:13] Speaker 1: had to wait for him at half court while he
[2:02:14] Speaker 1: had a full steam ahead.
[2:02:17] Speaker 5: Why Ben Simmons look great? You got 6'10.
[2:02:21] Speaker 1: We ain't going to put Steph Curry on him. Draymond
[2:02:23] Speaker 1: get him. He looks great. That's the offset. Because if
[2:02:29] Speaker 1: you try to put a point guard on him, we're
[2:02:31] Speaker 1: going to put him in the post. If you try
[2:02:32] Speaker 1: to pick him up full court with your natural height,
[2:02:35] Speaker 1: you're going to go full court on him. It's simple basketball.
[2:02:38] Speaker 5: You think people are going to be like, oh my God.
[2:02:41] Speaker 1: Guard's guarding me. Pass it. Wait. Let them switch.
[2:02:44] Speaker 5: Here I come. Switch back. Hey.
[2:02:48] Speaker 1: Switch. Switch. It's a four on three. It's a four
[2:02:51] Speaker 1: on three. Literally, it's a four on three. What are
[2:03:01] Speaker 1: you talking about?
[2:03:01] Speaker 5: It's a four on three. Cooper flag, bringing it up.
[2:03:04] Speaker 5: Guard him until he passes the ball.
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: When we get back to the half court, we're going
[2:03:09] Speaker 1: to change. And you see why he's going to pass it, right?
[2:03:13] Speaker 1: You throw it to me. So what I just explained
[2:03:15] Speaker 1: to you, right? Your words was guard him until he
[2:03:18] Speaker 1: passes it, right? He's the end ball to bound me
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: right here. I'm trying to just pass it. It's still
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: four on three, nigga. It's still two men up here. Yes,
[2:03:27] Speaker 1: it's two. This is you inbounding. This is Cooper. No,
[2:03:30] Speaker 1: it ain't two defenders up here, my nigga.
[2:03:32] Speaker 11: No.
[2:03:32] Speaker 1: No. No. No. He's a dummy. No opinion. Opinion. That's
[2:03:34] Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. All I got to do is
[2:03:36] Speaker 1: run back. Because you're not listening. Remember what you said.
[2:03:42] Speaker 1: You're going to run back. You're not listening. You're going
[2:03:45] Speaker 1: to run back. You said the other defender's going to
[2:03:47] Speaker 1: run back. Listen, ain't no other defender. We're back here.
[2:03:49] Speaker 1: We're dropped. So he's going to be back here, right? Yes.
[2:03:54] Speaker 1: So you're going to throw the ball into him. He's
[2:03:56] Speaker 1: going to screen. He's going to sit.
[2:03:58] Speaker 5: Yes.
[2:03:59] Speaker 1: He's going to have to do that all night. He's
[2:04:01] Speaker 1: going to have to do that all night. You're going
[2:04:02] Speaker 1: to have to because that's what they do. Why wouldn't he? Okay,
[2:04:05] Speaker 1: when you're a point guard, Brandon, to get a guy
[2:04:07] Speaker 1: off of you.
[2:04:07] Speaker 5: Why wouldn't I?
[2:04:08] Speaker 1: When the inbound and inbound.
[2:04:09] Speaker 3: I come from the free throw line.
[2:04:10] Speaker 1: And what happened?
[2:04:11] Speaker 5: Look, when the inbounder inbounded to you and there was
[2:04:14] Speaker 5: a guy in front of you, to get that guy
[2:04:16] Speaker 5: in front of you off you, did he not set
[2:04:18] Speaker 5: a little screen for you.
[2:04:19] Speaker 1: To get off? A little brush screen. A little brush screen.
[2:04:21] Speaker 5: And then if he was still on you, he set
[2:04:23] Speaker 5: another one to get him off you until you got
[2:04:25] Speaker 5: past half court, right? Then you set the offense up, right?
[2:04:28] Speaker 5: But that whole time, there was never two guys up here.
[2:04:31] Speaker 5: It wasn't a full court press. It was I'm putting
[2:04:34] Speaker 5: pressure on you to bring the ball up. And this other.
[2:04:38] Speaker 1: Guy that's inbounding the ball, he needs to set a
[2:04:40] Speaker 1: screen to get me off you. The only way you
[2:04:43] Speaker 1: pressure someone if he's dribbling, yes or no? How about this?
[2:04:46] Speaker 3: Before you answer, let's try this. You inbound the ball
[2:04:50] Speaker 3: to me.
[2:04:50] Speaker 1: Right? I hold the ball.
[2:04:53] Speaker 3: I see you.
[2:04:54] Speaker 1: Run right there.
[2:04:55] Speaker 3: Just run right there.
[2:04:57] Speaker 1: I'm holding.
[2:04:57] Speaker 3: I got ten seconds, right?
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: Eight. Eight. Eight! Go.
[2:05:02] Speaker 5: Give it to the goddamn guard! And going to play handoff.
[2:05:08] Speaker 5: And steal for defenders. He's coming down with the ball
[2:05:12] Speaker 5: now because no one's going to hear it.
[2:05:16] Speaker 1: And we're cool with that.
[2:05:17] Speaker 5: We're cool because he's a big fan.
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: This is Gafford or somebody.
[2:05:21] Speaker 4: We cool.
[2:05:22] Speaker 5: No pressure giving it to my point guard who.
[2:05:25] Speaker 16: Is who has the mismatch on whoever There's nothing you
[2:05:42] Speaker 16: can do now.
[2:05:42] Speaker 1: There's no mismatch. There ain't no mismatch. You giving it
[2:05:46] Speaker 1: to Klay to go to work on somebody? No, no, no.
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: You giving it to P.J.? We said we inverted.
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: I'm trying to see. We inverted when we get to Africa.
[2:05:54] Speaker 5: How are you going to invert if you already passed
[2:05:55] Speaker 5: it to Kenyon?
[2:05:56] Speaker 1: How are you going to get back there? It's four
[2:05:58] Speaker 1: guys back. They're not listening. It's four defenders back, bro.
[2:06:02] Speaker 5: Okay.
[2:06:02] Speaker 1: No. Okay.
[2:06:02] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:06:03] Speaker 1: It's four defenders back. Okay. His guy's already back. He's
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: already back. He's already waiting. No. He's already waiting. Let's
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: try again. Let's try again. Okay.
[2:06:13] Speaker 5: I get what I'm saying.
[2:06:14] Speaker 3: Listen.
[2:06:16] Speaker 1: I'm protecting you. We're both protecting you. And then when
[2:06:19] Speaker 1: you try to guard him as a big, we say, Brandon,
[2:06:22] Speaker 1: stay high. We got you.
[2:06:23] Speaker 3: Let's do it one at a time. Let's do it
[2:06:25] Speaker 3: this way.
[2:06:25] Speaker 1: I'll take it out, right? Uh-huh. Brandon's guarding him. Yeah,
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: I got you. Listen, this is what I'm going to do.
[2:06:30] Speaker 1: I'm still up here.
[2:06:31] Speaker 3: I'm going to turn it around.
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: No, no, no.
[2:06:32] Speaker 5: You're already gone, right? So you're guarding me. I know
[2:06:35] Speaker 5: what's guarding you. Nobody's going to guard you. Nobody guard me.
[2:06:39] Speaker 5: I don't need that.
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: I don't want that.
[2:06:42] Speaker 3: This is what.
[2:06:43] Speaker 1: I'm going to do. I can do that. Brandon, follow Gil. Brandon,
[2:06:47] Speaker 1: follow Gil.
[2:06:48] Speaker 5: Brandon, follow Gil.
[2:06:53] Speaker 1: Your man, your man, Kenyon, is waiting at half court.
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: That's like your man. Your man. Big man. I'm at
[2:07:01] Speaker 1: half court just waiting on you like this. You're waiting
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: on my man.
[2:07:06] Speaker 5: This is my five men. And don't make anybody of this.
[2:07:10] Speaker 1: Guard him. Come on.
[2:07:12] Speaker 5: I have no.
[2:07:12] Speaker 1: Idea what's going on right now.
[2:07:14] Speaker 5: You're waiting at half.
[2:07:15] Speaker 1: Come on. You're waiting at five. You're the five men.
[2:07:17] Speaker 1: Let's go. Gentlemen, you're on a football field right now.
[2:07:20] Speaker 13: He's half court.
[2:07:21] Speaker 5: I'm half court.
[2:07:22] Speaker 1: He's half court. I can't keep going back, motherfucker. He
[2:07:25] Speaker 1: can't go there. He got to stay right there.
[2:07:36] Speaker 5: Make it.
[2:07:36] Speaker 1: Do it. All right, so let's do it this way.
[2:07:38] Speaker 1: So when you throw it to you, you throw it
[2:07:40] Speaker 1: to Kenyon.
[2:07:40] Speaker 3: We're going to do it?
[2:07:41] Speaker 1: You throw it to Kenyon. We do it?
[2:07:42] Speaker 5: Now you going on.
[2:07:43] Speaker 1: I throw it in. Throw it in. Are you going
[2:07:45] Speaker 1: to screen or are you going to go down? It
[2:07:46] Speaker 1: don't matter. What you want me to do? What you
[2:07:48] Speaker 1: want to do? It don't matter. His court was back there.
[2:07:50] Speaker 1: Where is his man? His man is back. His man
[2:07:52] Speaker 1: is back. I'm at the half court line. His man
[2:07:54] Speaker 1: is back. So just for shits and giggles, you're at
[2:07:57] Speaker 1: half court, Nick, right? If I see you at half court,
[2:07:59] Speaker 1: guess what I'm going to do? This is my first play.
[2:08:01] Speaker 1: Nick is talking.
[2:08:01] Speaker 5: Nick is talking to Brandon. Brandon's free.
[2:08:03] Speaker 1: Brandon's free. Brandon's free.
[2:08:05] Speaker 5: We let you do this.
[2:08:07] Speaker 1: We let you set up. You're playing the five. Left.
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: You're playing the five. No, you ain't had no. There's
[2:08:11] Speaker 1: no left or right in this situation. Why is there
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: not no left? Well, I can't tell them left. You
[2:08:15] Speaker 1: can tell a nigga left, right. And he's gonna run
[2:08:20] Speaker 1: at you fast pace miss I'm going All I have
[2:08:24] Speaker 1: to do is turn in face no he dips out
[2:08:25] Speaker 1: I thought to him I Now I'm giving the ball
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: to you against a four or five or three. That's
[2:08:49] Speaker 1: an advantage for you. You don't need to set a
[2:08:53] Speaker 1: pick to get the switch. You already got it now.
[2:08:54] Speaker 1: They already did it for you. Now we got them discombobulated.
[2:08:58] Speaker 1: They are not running what they planned on running. That's
[2:09:00] Speaker 1: why you don't see it. They're not running what they
[2:09:02] Speaker 1: planned on running. That's why you don't see it. That's
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: why you can see Luka bringing the ball up because
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: they're not going to put a small guy on him.
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: But Luka's a real point guard.
[2:09:12] Speaker 5: He Cooper flag is not doesn't we're gonna press guard
[2:09:16] Speaker 5: guard Luca or.
[2:09:17] Speaker 3: Do they guard Kyrie?
[2:09:19] Speaker 1: So he has one a slow guy on him bringing
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: the ball up.
[2:09:25] Speaker 5: Like he's running at a five man downhill downhill my
[2:09:29] Speaker 5: good luck. Oh So good luck trying to stop him.
[2:09:32] Speaker 5: Who is your fastest guy? You got a bunch of
[2:09:34] Speaker 5: four big ass.
[2:09:35] Speaker 1: You got five. Ain't nobody going full speed. What are
[2:09:39] Speaker 1: y'all talking about? What fast niggas on the floor? What
[2:09:42] Speaker 1: fast niggas going full speed? Tell me what fast niggas
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: going full speed. Hey, get the fuck out of here, man.
[2:09:48] Speaker 1: Stop making up shit. No, no, no, bro. Woo!
[2:09:56] Speaker 5: Before we get to that we ask the chat is
[2:09:58] Speaker 5: it obvious 77%.
[2:10:21] Speaker 3: Of the chat say yes.
[2:10:21] Speaker 1: Thank you. Have y'all noticed this? Damn. Have y'all noticed this?
[2:10:24] Speaker 3: We up there.
[2:10:25] Speaker 1: There's a reason that he's dunking on everybody. I'll tell
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: you what the drop was. Drop him.
[2:10:33] Speaker 5: There's a reason he's having fast break dunks and backdoor
[2:10:36] Speaker 5: dunks because who's guarding him?
[2:10:37] Speaker 1: Nobody. They're not even bringing him up. Back door dunk.
[2:10:41] Speaker 1: Game vented. Game vented. Just point guard. That's to the point.
[2:10:46] Speaker 1: That's it. He's not going to dribble it. That's the
[2:10:52] Speaker 1: point blank period. He turned as a small on him.
[2:10:55] Speaker 5: He's not going to dribble the ball up on him.
[2:10:59] Speaker 5: Boston Celtics tried it with LeBron where he was bringing
[2:11:02] Speaker 5: the ball up.
[2:11:02] Speaker 1: They said, oh shit, put Ronda on him. Put Ronda
[2:11:05] Speaker 1: on him. Oh shit. Kyrie. Kyrie. Kyrie, go at Paul Pierce.
[2:11:11] Speaker 1: They didn't wait for the offense no more. It's Clay P.J.
[2:11:17] Speaker 1: It's not Kyrie. It's not Kyrie.
[2:11:20] Speaker 5: It's Clay P.J.
[2:11:23] Speaker 1: So Nick, let me ask you this. Since you want
[2:11:26] Speaker 1: to get up, so is Kyrie never playing basketball again?
[2:11:29] Speaker 1: And D'Angelo is not playing?
[2:11:30] Speaker 5: The only reason we're talking about this is because he's
[2:11:33] Speaker 5: not there. We're talking about this because J.K. said he's
[2:11:36] Speaker 5: going to put him at the point where that's why
[2:11:38] Speaker 5: the fuck we're talking about it. Because Kyrie's not playing.
[2:11:40] Speaker 5: We're going to experiment with Cooper at the point where
[2:11:44] Speaker 5: Kyrie's not here.
[2:11:45] Speaker 1: D-Lo was back in this game waiting for Kyrie to
[2:11:47] Speaker 1: come back. Hey, I think when Kyrie come back, he's
[2:11:49] Speaker 1: still going to play the win. That's going to be
[2:11:50] Speaker 1: even dangerous. That's going to be more dangerous. We got
[2:11:53] Speaker 1: to talk. I want to not play the point guard.
[2:11:55] Speaker 1: He wants to play the point guard. All he's doing
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: is just bringing the ball up the court. We're not
[2:11:58] Speaker 1: letting that happen.
[2:11:59] Speaker 5: Anytime he bring it up, go hit him.
[2:12:01] Speaker 1: Y'all sitting on the couch with us. Jake, he'll coach
[2:12:03] Speaker 1: that thing the way he want to coach it.
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: So we got to talk about another situation. We got
[2:12:07] Speaker 2: to talk about another situation going on with Cooper Flagg.
[2:12:10] Speaker 1: Very, very important.
[2:12:11] Speaker 2: So Flagg was put to the test recently and asked
[2:12:13] Speaker 2: if he could name some NBA legends. Including one from
[2:12:16] Speaker 2: this very show.
[2:12:17] Speaker 1: Goddamn. Antoine Wright. Okay.
[2:12:20] Speaker 3: I didn't know who that was.
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: You stupid as shit. Rashad McCants. Shit.
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: I also don't know him. He said, Rashad McCants, I
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: also don't know him. Cemetery Lair, what's your response to
[2:12:33] Speaker 2: Duke alum Cooper Flagg saying he's unfamiliar with your game?
[2:12:37] Speaker 3: I see you in a Cooper Flagg jersey. You know
[2:12:38] Speaker 3: who he is.
[2:12:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Shit. He ain't
[2:12:43] Speaker 1: got to know me. I know him. He better not
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: miss no shots. He better not turn that bitch over.
[2:12:47] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We on next. Oh, it's obvious.
[2:12:51] Speaker 1: It's all good. You know what I'm saying? It's cool.
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: Everybody know me now. He let everybody know who I am.
[2:12:59] Speaker 3: Do you have a body bag waiting for you?
[2:13:01] Speaker 1: Not yet. I can't mess with that white man. That's
[2:13:05] Speaker 1: an American white man right there. You talk about that
[2:13:08] Speaker 1: white man, your ass.
[2:13:09] Speaker 3: Would be out of here.
[2:13:10] Speaker 1: That's an American white man. That's an American white man.
[2:13:12] Speaker 3: That's an American white man.
[2:13:16] Speaker 5: Do I like vanilla or do I like vanilla?
[2:13:19] Speaker 1: Do I like snow or do I like snow?
[2:13:21] Speaker 4: You should have said Cooper flag, I'm sorry.
[2:13:25] Speaker 1: No, I ain't sorry. God damn it. It's up, man.
[2:13:28] Speaker 1: He's a dude.
[2:13:29] Speaker 3: Fuck Duke. That's snow snow. That's over in the Himalayan mountains.
[2:13:33] Speaker 1: You don't know me. That's pure. I went to school
[2:13:36] Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. I went to school in New Hampshire.
[2:13:45] Speaker 5: It don't get no whiter.
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: Than your back. Where your backs at? They make loafers.
[2:13:51] Speaker 1: It's in the New England area. New Hampshire, Maine. I
[2:13:55] Speaker 1: was up there with him. I probably know somebody in
[2:13:58] Speaker 1: his family.
[2:13:58] Speaker 9: He better calm down before I figure some shit out.
[2:14:11] Speaker 9: I did go with Dale Downey.
[2:14:14] Speaker 1: Miller Lite. Miller Lite, Bud Lite, Taylor Swift. Super Bowl American. Man,
[2:14:21] Speaker 1: that's halftime. No bad bunny. Bad bunny, no bueno. No
[2:14:25] Speaker 1: bad bunny, no bueno. I'm so glad. Okay You got
[2:14:31] Speaker 1: not just one Jersey You got two of these. I
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: got more.
[2:14:49] Speaker 2: I got more. You came in Cooper's flag jersey yesterday.
[2:14:52] Speaker 2: You came in a Cooper's flag bro jersey today. That's
[2:14:54] Speaker 2: crazy to me. Like, don't know who he is. You
[2:14:56] Speaker 2: go out and buy money. You spend money on him. Yeah,
[2:14:58] Speaker 2: I support.
[2:14:59] Speaker 1: I'm going to support.
[2:15:00] Speaker 3: Support him.
[2:15:01] Speaker 5: He's going to know me. He's going to know the show.
[2:15:04] Speaker 5: He's going to subscribe.
[2:15:05] Speaker 1: Man, fuck him.
[2:15:06] Speaker 5: That's why I'm like, fuck Hector.
[2:15:07] Speaker 1: You got to search him. Hey, man. Man, fuck him.
[2:15:10] Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, fuck Hector. That's why I'm like,
[2:15:13] Speaker 1: fuck Hector. Oh, shit.
[2:15:18] Speaker 5: Ain't that about a bitch? Y'all don't know nothing about trolling?
[2:15:21] Speaker 5: They don't know how you troll. Let me go support.
[2:15:24] Speaker 5: This shit cost a.
[2:15:25] Speaker 1: Lot of money, too, goddamn. This ain't cheap. This is
[2:15:27] Speaker 1: the authentic one.
[2:15:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that good cop.
[2:15:30] Speaker 1: Did you see that motherfucking face? That's a Jordan. That's
[2:15:34] Speaker 1: a Jordan. He was in line. He was in line
[2:15:36] Speaker 1: for that one. No, I pushed the button on the line.
[2:15:38] Speaker 1: I pushed the button online. That motherfucker came in three days.
[2:15:42] Speaker 1: It was him. I need this ready for day two.
[2:15:47] Speaker 5: They want day two today one came in the Caucasian
[2:15:52] Speaker 5: superflag Jersey He.
[2:15:57] Speaker 1: Was born when you played like he didn't.
[2:16:00] Speaker 5: Know nobody he packed nobody on that list He didn't
[2:16:03] Speaker 5: know nobody knowing the coaches. No, he just said cuz
[2:16:06] Speaker 5: he knew him as coach. Yes, cuz I still didn't
[2:16:08] Speaker 5: know them That's great.
[2:16:09] Speaker 3: What's the funniest one of the free agents?
[2:16:12] Speaker 1: That was this summer When we had a conversation He
[2:16:16] Speaker 1: didn't know who Vince Carter was.
[2:16:17] Speaker 3: Mm-mm-mm. Damn.
[2:16:20] Speaker 1: Nah, that's insane. Nah, nobody.
[2:16:21] Speaker 5: See, this is why.
[2:16:22] Speaker 1: Wait, am I right?
[2:16:22] Speaker 5: Nah.
[2:16:23] Speaker 1: Deadass didn't know who did. Nah.
[2:16:24] Speaker 3: I said, what do you think about Vince? He's like, who?
[2:16:28] Speaker 3: Vince Carter?
[2:16:29] Speaker 1: He was like.
[2:16:31] Speaker 3: I was like, dunk contest, arm.
[2:16:33] Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: think I've really seen him play. So when I was
[2:16:38] Speaker 1: with the Bucs. Yo, that's how old we get. But
[2:16:39] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is his goat.
[2:16:41] Speaker 5: So when I was with the Bucs, though, right? So
[2:16:43] Speaker 5: when I was with the Bucs. But Michael Jordan is
[2:16:44] Speaker 5: his goat. You don't know Vince Carter. I don't want
[2:16:47] Speaker 5: to hear none of these young niggas talk.
[2:16:48] Speaker 3: No, no, not him.
[2:16:49] Speaker 1: No, no, not him, not him. So J.K. made. I
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: wonder if he going to do a cool fact how
[2:16:55] Speaker 1: he did them dudes in Milwaukee when Giannis and them
[2:16:56] Speaker 1: was young, right? J.K. was giving dudes tests. Like, after
[2:17:00] Speaker 1: shoot around and shit, They had a test. That probably
[2:17:03] Speaker 1: was one of them. They had to sit down and take,
[2:17:05] Speaker 1: and it was about the history of the game, your teammates,
[2:17:08] Speaker 1: and he made the motherfucker, and they passed me one
[2:17:10] Speaker 1: of them motherfuckers, and I was like, I'd be goddamned
[2:17:12] Speaker 1: if I feel this out. The obvious shit.
[2:17:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, the obvious shit.
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: To me, if you watch the game and you've been
[2:17:19] Speaker 1: around the game, you know, like, yeah, so they was
[2:17:22] Speaker 1: giving them dudes tests after every shoot around. They had
[2:17:24] Speaker 1: to sit down, do their test before they leave, and
[2:17:28] Speaker 1: if you did horribly, they'd call you out before the game.
[2:17:30] Speaker 5: You play 2K and NBA Live and any of them shits,
[2:17:33] Speaker 5: you're supposed to know motherfuckers on the roster.
[2:17:34] Speaker 1: You're passing to the wrong— They do. You're passing to
[2:17:36] Speaker 1: the Luke Lonely and Bill Carr, right? That's not bad, though.
[2:17:39] Speaker 1: First of all, first of all. See, we're a student
[2:17:42] Speaker 1: of the game. Majority of us don't look like what
[2:17:45] Speaker 1: we look like when we play.
[2:17:46] Speaker 5: Let's just be honest. Let's just be honest. Most of
[2:17:50] Speaker 5: us won't know who Eric Snow is right now if.
[2:17:52] Speaker 3: We see him.
[2:17:53] Speaker 1: There's just some.
[2:17:54] Speaker 3: Guys out there.
[2:17:55] Speaker 1: We'd be like, Oh, damn! How you doing? Unnecessary. No,
[2:18:02] Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Just being honest. Did you say how
[2:18:05] Speaker 1: y'all doing? Hey, how y'all doing? How y'all doing? How y'all?
[2:18:11] Speaker 1: Who's in there? Who's in there? There was a point.
[2:18:15] Speaker 1: Eddie House got it down.
[2:18:17] Speaker 3: There was a point.
[2:18:18] Speaker 1: We didn't know who Eddie House was when he was doing.
[2:18:19] Speaker 3: He was like.
[2:18:21] Speaker 1: Is that house?
[2:18:23] Speaker 3: No, that ain't a house. And then it came up,
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: Eddie had like, ooh. There's a few of them.
[2:18:26] Speaker 1: They probably all eating. They all eating at the same restaurant.
[2:18:29] Speaker 1: They all eating at the same restaurant. You know they
[2:18:32] Speaker 1: all eating at the restaurant. They all eating. What's his name?
[2:18:38] Speaker 1: No more, please.
[2:18:39] Speaker 3: No more.
[2:18:40] Speaker 1: No more. Them niggas eating Bloomin' Onions. That's all he
[2:18:43] Speaker 1: got to say. I look like I was 270. Like, woo!
[2:18:49] Speaker 1: I'm calling a timeout to advance the ball. Advance the ball.
[2:18:52] Speaker 2: We got to advance the ball. We got two more
[2:18:57] Speaker 2: things we got to talk about before we get on
[2:18:59] Speaker 2: to the rest of our weekend.
[2:19:00] Speaker 5: See I see other dudes that see this you was
[2:19:03] Speaker 5: fat you was fat for four months ago, which.
[2:19:05] Speaker 10: Is the most If you don't use other people to
[2:19:12] Speaker 10: gauge like you see dudes that came before you play
[2:19:14] Speaker 10: with you and you see them in there if that
[2:19:15] Speaker 10: Don't know set off alarms with.
[2:19:17] Speaker 1: You or cuz I've seen dudes and we got done
[2:19:19] Speaker 1: playing last 10 years. I'd be damned I'm not getting far.
[2:19:22] Speaker 1: I will be damned. I If I ever, listen, resemble
[2:19:27] Speaker 1: anything of a shell of myself, no way, no. So
[2:19:31] Speaker 1: the thing is, see, y'all niggas don't see the thing. See,
[2:19:33] Speaker 1: y'all not honest with y'allself, because you suppose, well, you
[2:19:35] Speaker 1: don't use lotion and shit, so you probably don't look
[2:19:37] Speaker 1: in the mirror. You don't look in the mirror after
[2:19:39] Speaker 1: you get out of the shower.
[2:19:40] Speaker 5: You just put your shit on.
[2:19:41] Speaker 3: You drive, just get dressed.
[2:19:43] Speaker 1: See, most people look.
[2:19:44] Speaker 5: In the mirror at themselves when they get out of
[2:19:46] Speaker 5: the shower and shit.
[2:19:46] Speaker 10: They be in the mirror doing their hygiene shit.
[2:19:50] Speaker 1: You drive, nigga, just put your clothes on. But most
[2:19:53] Speaker 1: people look at themselves in the mirror. Draws, dry off.
[2:19:56] Speaker 3: Most people look.
[2:19:57] Speaker 1: At themselves in the mirror when they get out the shower, right?
[2:20:00] Speaker 1: So all you former players and athletes, listen, when you're
[2:20:04] Speaker 1: in the mirror, When you look at yourself, just do
[2:20:06] Speaker 1: yourself this favor. Turn sideways. Yeah, yeah. See if you
[2:20:10] Speaker 1: got this taken back. Turn sideways.
[2:20:12] Speaker 5: Look at your profile.
[2:20:13] Speaker 1: That's in the back. That's in the back. That's in
[2:20:16] Speaker 1: the back. You got it. You got all this. Your
[2:20:18] Speaker 1: butt start looking like your back. Boy, you look down, motherfucker.
[2:20:23] Speaker 5: You can't hang.
[2:20:29] Speaker 1: You ain't seen your man in motherfucking like four years. Ah, man.
[2:20:32] Speaker 1: I ain't seen it happen. So, dude, I still like
[2:20:34] Speaker 1: your work.
[2:20:35] Speaker 3: I still like you, man.
[2:20:36] Speaker 1: That's the crystal ball. You got Joe Johnson, Richard Jefferson, everybody.
[2:20:43] Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh. All right. Z-Bo's still, everybody's still in shape.
[2:20:48] Speaker 5: Z-Bo in shape, too. Z-Bo in shape. Shout out to Z-Bo.
[2:20:52] Speaker 5: I was looking at it, too, saying, I was like, ooh.
[2:20:54] Speaker 1: You better.
[2:20:54] Speaker 2: But, Sean, let's talk about something that you brought up
[2:20:56] Speaker 2: on the show yesterday. You said you had more faith
[2:20:59] Speaker 2: in the Hornets this season than the Bucs. Last night
[2:21:02] Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball came through with one of the best plays
[2:21:04] Speaker 2: of the preseason. Let's take a look if we can.
[2:21:08] Speaker 2: Melo got the ball, proceeded to nutmeg Jock Longdale. Throw
[2:21:11] Speaker 2: the lefty lob. Brandon Miller. Brandon Miller.
[2:21:15] Speaker 1: Who is not hurt. Who is not hurt. Who I
[2:21:17] Speaker 1: gave an undisclosed, unnecessary injury yesterday. He was hurt both
[2:21:23] Speaker 1: the last season. But I gave him a real injury.
[2:21:25] Speaker 1: I'd say the man had something with his ACL. My bad.
[2:21:27] Speaker 1: It was not. It was not. Just his wrist gap.
[2:21:30] Speaker 1: My bad. Yeah.
[2:21:33] Speaker 2: Look, this has the potential to be a very dynamic
[2:21:35] Speaker 2: backcourt if they can stay healthy. So Lomelo's past three seasons,
[2:21:37] Speaker 2: he's been marred by injuries, played a total of 105
[2:21:39] Speaker 2: of a possible 246 games, but averaged 24, 8, and
[2:21:42] Speaker 2: 6 rebounds in that time. Brandon Miller coming off a
[2:21:45] Speaker 2: season where he was averaging 21 points per game for
[2:21:48] Speaker 2: undergoing surgery on his right wrist.
[2:21:50] Speaker 1: He was at 21?
[2:21:51] Speaker 3: But he only played 27 games for that total season.
[2:21:53] Speaker 1: So Hornets.
[2:21:54] Speaker 3: Should be his good year. So Hornets have the league's
[2:21:56] Speaker 3: longest playoff drought at nine seasons.
[2:22:00] Speaker 1: Ten.
[2:22:01] Speaker 3: Not nine going into this season.
[2:22:03] Speaker 1: Ten.
[2:22:03] Speaker 3: No. Ten. It gives you.
[2:22:04] Speaker 1: The season has yet to be played. This East Conference
[2:22:07] Speaker 1: is very weak.
[2:22:08] Speaker 3: Very weak.
[2:22:08] Speaker 1: The East is open.
[2:22:09] Speaker 2: Are the Hornets a playoff team if LaMelo Ball and
[2:22:11] Speaker 2: Brandon Miller can stay healthy this season? They got a
[2:22:16] Speaker 2: lot of faith in the Hornets. I'm looking at that
[2:22:19] Speaker 2: crew right there.
[2:22:19] Speaker 5: And this ain't that hard to consider the playoff team.
[2:22:22] Speaker 1: I try to talk who I think they got.
[2:22:24] Speaker 3: If they stay healthy.
[2:22:24] Speaker 1: They better than the Bucs. It's not hard to be
[2:22:27] Speaker 1: a playoff team when they give you 10 chances to
[2:22:29] Speaker 1: motherfucking do it. Especially in the Eastern Conference. And overall,
[2:22:32] Speaker 1: you get 10 slots. But you get about 34 wins
[2:22:34] Speaker 1: and you were in the mix. 27 will get you
[2:22:36] Speaker 1: in in the East. Facts. So... Yeah, it ain't hard.
[2:22:40] Speaker 1: They give you 10 teams, man. So you can be
[2:22:43] Speaker 1: dog shit and still have a chance. So to say
[2:22:45] Speaker 1: that is not to say much. All you got to
[2:22:47] Speaker 1: do is win one of them games. All you got
[2:22:48] Speaker 1: to do is win the 10th seed and you got
[2:22:49] Speaker 1: a chance. Got a chance, right? So therefore, I'm not, yeah.
[2:22:52] Speaker 1: So if they're in the top 10, that's what y'all
[2:22:54] Speaker 1: going with. Yeah.
[2:22:57] Speaker 3: I'm sure they hope they are. 10 out of the world.
[2:22:59] Speaker 1: It's 12, right?
[2:23:00] Speaker 3: We're familiar with Hope's current importance. There's 16 teams.
[2:23:04] Speaker 5: 16 teams total in the whole of Asia.
[2:23:08] Speaker 1: There's no way. It's six to ten? Yeah, so it
[2:23:11] Speaker 1: was Washington. I thought it was eight to ten. Washington. Bam.
[2:23:18] Speaker 5: But didn't have the mellow ball from almost half the season.
[2:23:21] Speaker 5: Didn't have Brandon Miller. Didn't have Bridges either.
[2:23:25] Speaker 3: I mean, they can make it.
[2:23:26] Speaker 1: Three dynamic players. In the Eastern Conference.
[2:23:31] Speaker 17: They got to be better than Philly who didn't make it, Chicago, Atlanta,
[2:23:37] Speaker 17: Toronto to try to make it.
[2:23:42] Speaker 1: Yeah. They'll be fighting.
[2:23:45] Speaker 5: The only team they was better than was Washington. They're
[2:23:48] Speaker 5: not better than Toronto.
[2:23:49] Speaker 1: They were better than Washington.
[2:23:51] Speaker 4: So you're telling me they wasn't better than Brooklyn, but
[2:23:53] Speaker 4: my man can't get paid. See, that's what I'm saying.
[2:23:58] Speaker 4: They pay Melo, they pay Bridges, Miller, all the motherfuckers.
[2:24:02] Speaker 4: Two pick, number two pick, number two pick.
[2:24:04] Speaker 1: Did you see that? You see the left hand with
[2:24:07] Speaker 1: the left hand off. I didn't see the nigga shoot
[2:24:09] Speaker 1: over five people and make it. That's some talent and shit.
[2:24:15] Speaker 3: That's some exciting whites joining the fray.
[2:24:18] Speaker 1: You might want to just wonder why he ain't getting paid.
[2:24:22] Speaker 1: A man can miss, do the look big, do that,
[2:24:25] Speaker 1: miss 27 games, miss 47 games, miss 50 games. 250.
[2:24:26] Speaker 1: You played all 82, huh? Good boy. Keep up the
[2:24:28] Speaker 1: good work. Miles Bridges played 64 games last season. Three
[2:24:31] Speaker 1: straight seasons, 20 plus. Yeah, man. Yeah, good. Atta boy.
[2:24:47] Speaker 5: We'll see you back next year.
[2:24:51] Speaker 1: Go check that free agency market, but we'll see you
[2:24:53] Speaker 1: back next year. Just leave that name tag up there.
[2:24:55] Speaker 1: Just leave the name tag. Leave that motherfucker up there.
[2:25:00] Speaker 1: They let the gang open. They let the dog gang open.
[2:25:02] Speaker 1: Go ahead and come back. Go ahead and come back.
[2:25:04] Speaker 1: They ain't even give a nigga no rough greens. They
[2:25:07] Speaker 1: ain't even give a nigga no rough greens. Standing with
[2:25:11] Speaker 1: his head poked out the gate just barking. Nah, he
[2:25:13] Speaker 1: going to be back.
[2:25:14] Speaker 5: He ain't going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere. But, Shaw,
[2:25:17] Speaker 5: you think this Hornets squad.
[2:25:18] Speaker 1: Food over here. Food over here. I'm not saying playing.
[2:25:21] Speaker 2: I'm saying playoff team, they'll finish top eight in Adam
[2:25:23] Speaker 2: Silver's Eastern Conference.
[2:25:25] Speaker 3: No, they'll finish in the top eight.
[2:25:26] Speaker 1: No, six. Playing shit don't matter.
[2:25:28] Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is they will be the eighth
[2:25:31] Speaker 2: seed or better. It might be better than Philly. Making
[2:25:34] Speaker 2: the actual playoffs.
[2:25:36] Speaker 5: If they stay healthy, they can definitely make eight.
[2:25:40] Speaker 1: Okay. Well, that's not better than the Bucs.
[2:25:42] Speaker 3: That's your dumbest.
[2:25:43] Speaker 1: Because the Bucs finish in top five. They can make eight.
[2:25:45] Speaker 2: All right, we got one more thing we got to talk.
[2:25:46] Speaker 2: The Bucs can beat them. We're running out of time.
[2:25:48] Speaker 2: This is our last show of the week, but we
[2:25:49] Speaker 2: got to pack it all in.
[2:25:50] Speaker 1: We're running out of time. Yeah.
[2:25:51] Speaker 5: Because y'all always got shit to do. I ain't got
[2:25:54] Speaker 5: nowhere to go, dude. I got a Little League game
[2:25:56] Speaker 5: at 430. Usually we get up on a Thursday.
[2:26:00] Speaker 2: Now we're staying put. And y'all ain't going to leave either.
[2:26:03] Speaker 2: You got nowhere else to go. We need y'all chat.
[2:26:06] Speaker 2: But Zion Williamson in a training camp looking slim and
[2:26:10] Speaker 2: had this to say about getting his body right and
[2:26:12] Speaker 2: ready for this season.
[2:26:14] Speaker 1: We came up with a plan and.
[2:26:17] Speaker 13: From boxing to working out on the football field a
[2:26:20] Speaker 13: lot to just different random workouts.
[2:26:27] Speaker 5: And during that time.
[2:26:28] Speaker 13: Frame last year, I really felt the a shift in
[2:26:30] Speaker 13: my body to where I would look at him and go, dude,
[2:26:34] Speaker 13: it feels good to feel good. I haven't dealt like
[2:26:37] Speaker 13: this since college, high school, just where I can walk
[2:26:41] Speaker 13: in the gym and I'm like, it just, I feel good.
[2:26:43] Speaker 3: It does feel good to feel good, ladies and gentlemen.
[2:26:46] Speaker 2: Hard work appears to be paying off as Williamson has
[2:26:48] Speaker 2: appeared in three preseason games so far, including the Pelos
[2:26:51] Speaker 2: game against the Rockets this past Tuesday where he did this.
[2:26:54] Speaker 2: A little vintage Zion, if you will. So after getting
[2:26:58] Speaker 2: a steal, Zion came through with one of his patented
[2:27:01] Speaker 2: 360 dunks. Finish the game with 13 points, four steals,
[2:27:06] Speaker 2: and 23 minutes of action.
[2:27:07] Speaker 1: And we're watching this, why? Because, King, it's preseason. It's
[2:27:13] Speaker 1: slim out here.
[2:27:14] Speaker 3: We got bills to pay.
[2:27:15] Speaker 1: No, I'm saying y'all making a big deal about this windmill.
[2:27:16] Speaker 1: He was doing this shit when he was motherfucking 300, so.
[2:27:19] Speaker 1: But he's back. And it looked more impressive when he
[2:27:22] Speaker 1: was bigger, so. It feels good to feel good. Right.
[2:27:26] Speaker 1: So it's not a real question. People making a big
[2:27:28] Speaker 1: deal about his weight and all that. So we want
[2:27:29] Speaker 1: to talk about Zion in preseason, three games, all that.
[2:27:33] Speaker 1: Looked good, lost the weight, this, that. What happens if
[2:27:35] Speaker 1: you come out and hurt his hamstring again? I hope
[2:27:36] Speaker 1: he don't, but what happens? No, I'm saying, but what happens?
[2:27:39] Speaker 1: We're having real conversations here. Because it's been all lower extremities,
[2:27:43] Speaker 1: lower leg. But just hypothetically, I want to play all 82,
[2:27:48] Speaker 1: make the playoffs, fucking make all NBA team like we
[2:27:50] Speaker 1: know he is. All of those things I'm wishing and
[2:27:54] Speaker 1: talking into existence for him. Devil's advocate here, by chance...
[2:28:00] Speaker 1: Can't see his weight.
[2:28:01] Speaker 4: So then what? What happens if he play all 80, 82?
[2:28:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I want him to. But my thing is, so...
[2:28:08] Speaker 1: Then you stretch and wave him and let him come
[2:28:10] Speaker 1: to the leg. I think most of his injury came
[2:28:12] Speaker 1: because he was carrying a lot of weight and that
[2:28:15] Speaker 1: power's pulling. Right? You know what I mean? Like, you jump. Right?
[2:28:20] Speaker 5: And you can't control how fast you decide to get up. Now,
[2:28:23] Speaker 5: if you got an extra 50 pounds on you and
[2:28:25] Speaker 5: you try to explode, you know, you're going to pull
[2:28:27] Speaker 5: some things. So I think most of his stuff is...
[2:28:29] Speaker 5: he was holding extra weight on during those takeoffs.
[2:28:33] Speaker 1: But sometimes, I'm not saying NFL players are as athletic
[2:28:38] Speaker 1: as Zion, but I've seen big dudes move before in
[2:28:42] Speaker 1: a certain way, quick twitch, moving. I would say they
[2:28:45] Speaker 1: are athletic. This shit here, the quick, them dudes, they
[2:28:50] Speaker 1: have to be, because they're playing in four-second, five-second gaps.
[2:28:53] Speaker 5: They have to be exploring. They're running 40-yard dashes.
[2:28:55] Speaker 1: Them big niggas out there running four nines, and they 310, 350, like,
[2:29:00] Speaker 1: I've seen it. So I'm glad he found what I'm
[2:29:03] Speaker 1: glad he found what works for him. But I like personally,
[2:29:07] Speaker 1: I just. I thought it was bad. I just think
[2:29:11] Speaker 1: I thought it was fucking bad luck.
[2:29:13] Speaker 3: That's all I thought. You didn't think the weight was
[2:29:15] Speaker 3: the issue with that? I didn't. I said it before.
[2:29:17] Speaker 5: I said he needs to train like a football player
[2:29:19] Speaker 5: because he has that body. You're training with these rubber
[2:29:23] Speaker 5: bands with all that muscle doing this stuff right here.
[2:29:25] Speaker 1: Them muscles ain't going to be ready to fire like that.
[2:29:27] Speaker 1: I dig it. You're going to have to put some
[2:29:29] Speaker 1: weight on that. I dig it. And that's what he did.
[2:29:32] Speaker 3: I dig it.
[2:29:32] Speaker 1: He did boxing. He did football stuff. Understand and train
[2:29:35] Speaker 1: like a football player.
[2:29:36] Speaker 3: I dig it.
[2:29:36] Speaker 2: So, Kane, to your point, dealing with the injuries and
[2:29:38] Speaker 2: the bad luck, Zion's played in 214 games in his career,
[2:29:41] Speaker 2: missed 258. including the entire 21-22 season. He's like 30
[2:29:47] Speaker 2: or fewer games in four of his six seasons in
[2:29:49] Speaker 2: the league so far, including last season. But when he
[2:29:51] Speaker 2: did play last season, he looked good. 25-7 rebounds, five assists.
[2:29:55] Speaker 2: 25-7 and five assists. Always does, though. That's the thing
[2:30:00] Speaker 2: about him.
[2:30:00] Speaker 3: 52% from the field.
[2:30:01] Speaker 1: Just turned 25. Same shit about him as they do
[2:30:04] Speaker 1: with Kawhi, right? When he out there, shit. Hey, just getting.
[2:30:09] Speaker 5: Y'all got to understand what it means to trim.
[2:30:12] Speaker 1: Down, man. What the fuck I do? Y'all don't know
[2:30:14] Speaker 1: what it's like to trim down, man. What the fuck
[2:30:16] Speaker 1: I do?
[2:30:16] Speaker 2: Hey, how many games did he miss? So he only
[2:30:20] Speaker 2: played 30 games, so he missed 52 games.
[2:30:21] Speaker 1: No, no, no. You can pay him.
[2:30:23] Speaker 3: More than half.
[2:30:25] Speaker 1: You can't compare him.
[2:30:29] Speaker 4: You can't compare Zion to Cam Thomas.
[2:30:32] Speaker 1: Cam Thomas? Five-year, $ 197 million extension. He's you. Back in 2022, though.
[2:30:36] Speaker 5: What I'm saying is he missed half his career.
[2:30:40] Speaker 1: Melo did, too. He got mad. Ja did, too.
[2:30:42] Speaker 3: But what is his numbers? 25, 7, and 5.
[2:30:45] Speaker 1: All right, now let me say anything.
[2:30:48] Speaker 3: See them numbers?
[2:30:49] Speaker 1: You see that? Them two numbers look better. It ain't
[2:30:51] Speaker 1: the 24. It's them other two numbers that look good.
[2:30:54] Speaker 1: The 5 and 7.
[2:30:54] Speaker 2: The question for the couch, should Pelicans still have faith
[2:30:57] Speaker 2: in Zion to be their franchise cornerstone moving forward?
[2:31:00] Speaker 3: We'll see why not.
[2:31:01] Speaker 1: Who else? Who else? Yes.
[2:31:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
[2:31:06] Speaker 5: Now that he's done what he was supposed to do,
[2:31:09] Speaker 5: Get rid of a lot of them hoes.
[2:31:11] Speaker 1: That's a lot of hoe energy was he got off
[2:31:13] Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, bad work energy. It's all in here.
[2:31:15] Speaker 1: It's all in the neck. That's Ling Ling. That's Ling
[2:31:17] Speaker 1: Ling with the rub and tug. You got to learn
[2:31:19] Speaker 1: how to adjust. Look at the neck.
[2:31:21] Speaker 3: It's different.
[2:31:22] Speaker 5: You got to do some different shit. And he's been
[2:31:24] Speaker 5: doing it. Staying off the carbs. He's off the carbs.
[2:31:27] Speaker 5: He's no sugar.
[2:31:29] Speaker 1: No bread.
[2:31:30] Speaker 5: It's a really simple diet, man. It's really get out
[2:31:33] Speaker 5: them streets. Stop watching that porn.
[2:31:35] Speaker 1: He good. He good.
[2:31:38] Speaker 5: Get them urges out of him. Get them demons out
[2:31:41] Speaker 5: of there. He in the voodoo town. He got to
[2:31:43] Speaker 5: get that shit out of him. Now he good.
[2:31:46] Speaker 1: He look good. He on his tiptoes again. He been
[2:31:49] Speaker 1: on his tiptoes since he was in college. He's like, yeah.
[2:31:53] Speaker 1: I'm telling you, he good. You ain't see it here.
[2:31:56] Speaker 1: He got the whole shit. He look like a whole
[2:31:59] Speaker 1: painted on figure, bro. He went back to his college days.
[2:32:07] Speaker 1: Where was he at?
[2:32:08] Speaker 3: Them college girls were treating him right.
[2:32:10] Speaker 1: He came to the league, got to North Carolina, got
[2:32:13] Speaker 1: to the hood, right? Put that little boo-boo-boo on him.
[2:32:19] Speaker 1: Walk around being Big Freedia. Mac and cheese and shit.
[2:32:24] Speaker 1: All that shit. Oh, man.
[2:32:29] Speaker 5: Flam, Ben Yates.
[2:32:30] Speaker 1: He's staying at Cafe Du Monde. Gumbo. Gumbo everything. I
[2:32:35] Speaker 1: just will say it is good to see.
[2:32:37] Speaker 2: Zion smiling when Zion happy. Zion actually on the court.
[2:32:40] Speaker 2: That was my dark horse team last year. I've suffered
[2:32:42] Speaker 2: a ton of injuries. I don't know about that goatee, though.
[2:32:45] Speaker 4: That's the only thing I don't know about. It's too
[2:32:48] Speaker 4: small for his head. I don't know what I'm saying.
[2:32:51] Speaker 1: It's like small and his head big.
[2:32:53] Speaker 3: I'm like. Lost too much weight.
[2:32:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Look like a little ass kid with a big
[2:32:56] Speaker 1: ass head.
[2:32:57] Speaker 5: You don't like that goatee, but you like the lips
[2:32:59] Speaker 5: you had in that force show.
[2:33:02] Speaker 1: Bitch, I didn't make my lips like that. It's hot
[2:33:04] Speaker 1: as fuck out there. I couldn't breathe. Yeah, I don't know.
[2:33:07] Speaker 1: Y'all didn't see that? Can we put, no, no, no. No,
[2:33:10] Speaker 1: you don't put that. Can we put the video? I
[2:33:11] Speaker 1: don't know what they telling you to do. Don't you
[2:33:13] Speaker 1: put that shit up. Yeah, yeah.
[2:33:15] Speaker 16: No, no, no.
[2:33:16] Speaker 1: No, you got to see it. You see it. Nigga,
[2:33:20] Speaker 1: I was. It was done. He in the middle of heat.
[2:33:24] Speaker 1: It was done. With crackhead lips. I done. She was
[2:33:27] Speaker 1: hotter than a motherfucker. No air.
[2:33:29] Speaker 3: Listen, next Wednesday, can you please stop that?
[2:33:32] Speaker 1: Why you looking at your lips? Because I'm drier than
[2:33:34] Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Everybody looks like that, though. He was really
[2:33:38] Speaker 1: the white around the back. The white around you.
[2:33:41] Speaker 5: The white around you.
[2:33:43] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, they ain't do nicks like that.
[2:33:49] Speaker 3: And on that note. Did y'all just sign A.J.
[2:33:51] Speaker 1: Green, Brandon? Yeah, 48.
[2:33:54] Speaker 3: Four for 45?
[2:33:55] Speaker 1: Yeah. Four for 45? Yeah, it's a shooter. Four for 45? Yes, sir.
[2:34:02] Speaker 1: You can shoot that thing.
[2:34:03] Speaker 3: How much do you have it?
[2:34:08] Speaker 1: Seven.
[2:34:08] Speaker 3: Dairy bird.
[2:34:09] Speaker 1: Seven. What do you have it? Shout out.
[2:34:11] Speaker 3: Let me pull it up. Shout out to Dairy Bird.
[2:34:13] Speaker 1: Shout out Michael Starberry.
[2:34:14] Speaker 3: Creator of the Dairy Bird nickname. Crazy. You can't bring
[2:34:19] Speaker 3: your personal feelings.
[2:34:20] Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying.
[2:34:22] Speaker 5: I know how you feel.
[2:34:23] Speaker 1: I know a follow guy. I know seven points per
[2:34:26] Speaker 1: game last season. 43% per three. I just guessed. Gil, Gil,
[2:34:32] Speaker 1: I just guessed and I was right. He's still mad
[2:34:34] Speaker 1: about a follow dog. Let's move on to mostly famous.
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[2:35:05] Speaker 3: Preseason.
[2:35:08] Speaker 1: It's almost the real season. I need the woof-woofs to increase.
[2:35:12] Speaker 1: All right. Whoa, whoa. Getting better. Getting better. A little aggressive,
[2:35:16] Speaker 1: but getting better.
[2:35:17] Speaker 3: I like it. It was aggressive, Woo-Woo.
[2:35:18] Speaker 1: All right. Okay.
[2:35:20] Speaker 2: Chihuahua to Pitbull, but we have one question from underdog
[2:35:24] Speaker 2: user Skull Bowl. Who is a rookie that should be
[2:35:27] Speaker 2: on our radar, but isn't? Rookie that should be on
[2:35:30] Speaker 2: our radar, but isn't heading into the season.
[2:35:32] Speaker 1: We got to drop it. Shoot. All I'm going to
[2:35:37] Speaker 1: be talking about is Ace Bailey. I'm going to be honest.
[2:35:40] Speaker 5: Shout out Ace Bailey dealing with some Issues right now.
[2:35:44] Speaker 5: Tender night. Pelicans big. Derrick Queen from... Oh, Queen.
[2:35:52] Speaker 3: I like Queen.
[2:35:54] Speaker 1: He's like that black.
[2:35:55] Speaker 5: They did make some interesting moves so far.
[2:35:57] Speaker 3: Zero fears. But, I mean, we know they know. Young
[2:36:02] Speaker 3: Hanson became a Harper. Oh, I know.
[2:36:06] Speaker 1: No, he ain't no rookie.
[2:36:08] Speaker 3: Indiana.
[2:36:08] Speaker 1: Furphy. Yeah, no, yeah.
[2:36:12] Speaker 3: Is he a real? Yeah, yeah.
[2:36:13] Speaker 1: Perfy.
[2:36:13] Speaker 3: Perfy out here with the mullet. Yaming on people.
[2:36:16] Speaker 1: Perfy.
[2:36:17] Speaker 3: Perfy yamming on everybody.
[2:36:18] Speaker 1: Caught somebody in summer league.
[2:36:19] Speaker 3: They caught somebody.
[2:36:19] Speaker 1: I'm going to say Ace Bailey, too. Ace Bailey. I'm
[2:36:22] Speaker 1: going to say B.J.
[2:36:24] Speaker 5: What's his name? I believe these rookies are on the radar. Yeah,
[2:36:27] Speaker 5: these are on the radar.
[2:36:28] Speaker 1: Lottery picks. Lottery picks like a motherfucker. These guys are
[2:36:31] Speaker 1: naming all the lotteries. Furphy, though. Furphy not.
[2:36:33] Speaker 3: Furphy not. He's not, but everybody is.
[2:36:34] Speaker 1: I'm going to say Cooper Flagg. Cooper Flagg.
[2:36:37] Speaker 3: He's not on the radar.
[2:36:39] Speaker 1: I'm going with Cooper Flagg, bitch. I'm going to say, yeah,
[2:36:41] Speaker 1: he's not on the radar currently.
[2:36:43] Speaker 3: It's valid.
[2:36:44] Speaker 1: I like Furphy.
[2:36:45] Speaker 5: Furphy out there really yamming on dudes. Young Hanson, I think,
[2:36:48] Speaker 5: might have an interesting season with the Blazers.
[2:36:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:36:51] Speaker 4: I like what we call it. No, for Igor. What's
[2:36:54] Speaker 4: his name? Igor or something like that? From BYU. Played
[2:36:57] Speaker 4: for the Brooklyn.
[2:36:58] Speaker 1: Hold on. Oh, overseas. Hold on. Igor. Igor, Igor. I
[2:37:02] Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about.
[2:37:04] Speaker 3: So, as you know, it's preseason for me too.
[2:37:06] Speaker 1: First of all, we're not even going to try to
[2:37:07] Speaker 1: guess because we already know you messed the name up.
[2:37:08] Speaker 3: And they're playing for Brooklyn, so nobody's going to know where.
[2:37:10] Speaker 1: No, Igor. Igor, right?
[2:37:12] Speaker 3: Igor Deming.
[2:37:13] Speaker 1: Cold.
[2:37:14] Speaker 3: Okay.
[2:37:14] Speaker 1: Fix the 11-point guard.
[2:37:16] Speaker 3: Lottery pick.
[2:37:16] Speaker 1: It's nine.
[2:37:17] Speaker 3: Take your lottery pick. Oh, your lottery pick?
[2:37:19] Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about him. You're right. We didn't
[2:37:22] Speaker 1: think about him. Of course I'm going to hear a
[2:37:24] Speaker 1: lottery pick.
[2:37:26] Speaker 3: Did not think about him.
[2:37:26] Speaker 1: Y'all didn't even know he was in the league. No,
[2:37:28] Speaker 1: we didn't watch it. Thank God, though. We didn't watch him, man.
[2:37:30] Speaker 1: Give me some.
[2:37:31] Speaker 3: Give me some.
[2:37:31] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give
[2:37:33] Speaker 1: me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:34] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give
[2:37:36] Speaker 1: me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:37] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:39] Speaker 5: Give me some.
[2:37:39] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:42] Speaker 3: Give me some.
[2:37:42] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:43] Speaker 3: Give me some.
[2:37:44] Speaker 1: Give me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give
[2:37:46] Speaker 1: me some. Give me some. Give me some. Give me some.
[2:37:47] Speaker 3: Give me some.
[2:37:48] Speaker 1: Give me some.
[2:37:48] Speaker 3: Give me some.
[2:37:49] Speaker 1: Give Him and Cam are going to be out there mugging.
[2:37:57] Speaker 5: That brings a close to our final show of the week.
[2:38:00] Speaker 2: Good to be back. Launching season four. Appreciate you as always,
[2:38:03] Speaker 2: the underdog. Make sure you download that. Furphy not a rookie?
[2:38:07] Speaker 1: Not a rookie, I don't think. That's what I was thinking.
[2:38:09] Speaker 1: He not a rookie. That was the first time I
[2:38:11] Speaker 1: heard of him when he dunked on the Frenchman. But
[2:38:12] Speaker 1: I think he had played last year in the summer league.
[2:38:15] Speaker 1: Hold on. Yo, speaking of that G League.
[2:38:17] Speaker 3: Furphy played?
[2:38:18] Speaker 1: Just pretend like he a rookie.
[2:38:19] Speaker 3: What the fuck?
[2:38:19] Speaker 1: Did y'all see that shit? This kid played in G
[2:38:21] Speaker 1: League for two years and went back to college.
[2:38:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go back.
[2:38:24] Speaker 1: That is good, KB. Oh, yeah.
[2:38:25] Speaker 3: You can do that now. Yeah, I know.
[2:38:29] Speaker 1: That's crazy, yeah.
[2:38:30] Speaker 3: Furphy did play 50 games for the Patriots. That's crazy.
[2:38:32] Speaker 3: Because the NIL offset being a pro.
[2:38:36] Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. What?
[2:38:39] Speaker 3: Wait, do we?
[2:38:40] Speaker 1: Wait, let me ask a question. You can go be
[2:38:43] Speaker 1: a pro for two years and go back. Do we
[2:38:44] Speaker 1: still have eligibility, technically? No.
[2:38:46] Speaker 3: Sign with an agent. No ex post facto.
[2:38:48] Speaker 1: I don't know. Because he didn't sign with an agent.
[2:38:52] Speaker 1: And I heard he reserved his amateur status because he
[2:38:56] Speaker 1: didn't sign with an agent.
[2:38:57] Speaker 5: Damn.
[2:38:58] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[2:38:59] Speaker 5: But most of them, don't they have agents? Yeah. No,
[2:39:03] Speaker 5: it's not that kind of.
[2:39:04] Speaker 1: It's the collective.
[2:39:05] Speaker 5: It's not that kind of an agent.
[2:39:07] Speaker 1: It's different. Yeah.
[2:39:11] Speaker 5: You can represent me from NIL, but you're not representing
[2:39:15] Speaker 5: me to become a professional athlete. You're representing me in
[2:39:18] Speaker 5: the NIL field. For my name, image, and likeness?
[2:39:21] Speaker 1: Yes. Not for that.
[2:39:22] Speaker 2: Well, appreciate you, gentlemen. It was great to have you
[2:39:24] Speaker 2: back on the couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat, especially
[2:39:27] Speaker 2: all the talk. Wait, so somebody who went straight out
[2:39:28] Speaker 2: of high school?
[2:39:30] Speaker 3: Oh, never mind. I sound like Nick. My bad. He
[2:39:32] Speaker 3: signed with an agent.
[2:39:33] Speaker 1: What you mean he's not like me?
[2:39:37] Speaker 3: No, no, no. Not that.
[2:39:40] Speaker 5: You know we know you dumb.
[2:39:42] Speaker 1: And on that note, this has been another episode of
[2:39:45] Speaker 1: Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all next week.
[2:39:50] Speaker 1: I grew out of it.

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