# LeBron & The Lakers NEED To Push The Panic Button

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 30 Apr 2026, 2 h 04 min.

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LeBron James & the Lakers need To push the panic button as the Gil's Arena Crew react to a crazy Wednesday night in the NBA Playoffs. They tip things off by reacting to the Los Angeles Lakers losing another close out game to the Kevin Durant-less Houston Rockets team, as LeBron James and company struggled to get anything going, and now the Lakers head back to Houston with all of the pressure in the world to not be the first team to blow a 3-0 lead in NBA history. Next, they react to Cade Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons holding off Paolo Banchero and the Orlando Magic in an insane battle between former number 1 overall picks. Are the Magic another team looking to blow a huge series lead? Finally, they discuss the Cleveland Cavaliers taking care of the Toronto Raptors in game 5. Do James Harden and Donovan Mitchell have what it takes to close out this series as well as being a contender in the Eastern Conference? Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:04 LeBron & Lakers Trick Off Game 5 0:05:07 LeBron's Take On MJ Comparisons 0:28:54 Cade & Paolo BATTLE In Game 5 0:54:37 Cavs take care of home court 1:16:31 Thunder Sweep The Suns 1:21:34 How Close Is Shai To The GOAT PG Conversation 1:42:11 Shai Trolls Dillon Brooks 1:50:35 Weekend NBA Playoff Picks 2:01:34 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog World.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Feeding the pigeons.
[0:09] Speaker 3: That's all.
[0:10] Speaker 1: Feeding the pigeons. Whoever's computer's on in the back, I
[0:17] Speaker 1: appreciate y'all love hearing my voice. Sad day here. Did
[0:23] Speaker 1: not go the way that we hoped or anticipated, Swaggy.
[0:26] Speaker 1: But still have a show to do.
[0:28] Speaker 3: Oh, y'all lucky I wasn't here last night at the
[0:30] Speaker 3: watch party, boy.
[0:34] Speaker 4: Nay, nay.
[0:34] Speaker 1: Game six.
[0:35] Speaker 3: You said the watch party.
[0:35] Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, y'all lucky I wasn't here.
[0:37] Speaker 5: Man, they said JC looked like a dumpling.
[0:39] Speaker 1: That was sick. You shot JC in the junk?
[0:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, man. Oh, hell yeah.
[0:45] Speaker 1: Like crashing out.
[0:46] Speaker 2: You shot that man, bro, with a nerve gun?
[0:49] Speaker 1: He deserved it. He deserved it. This is Gills Arena
[0:54] Speaker 1: presented by Underdog. I'm merely host Josiah Johnson. We got
[0:57] Speaker 1: NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young. Six-time champion.
[1:06] Speaker 4: It's not the same right now.
[1:09] Speaker 3: It's not a good day.
[1:13] Speaker 4: It was Brandon's fault. What happened? You normally don't go
[1:16] Speaker 4: with us. You don't go on the Lakers side, so
[1:19] Speaker 4: I think it's like You're doing this to jinx us.
[1:21] Speaker 4: They was up 3-0. Nah, but y'all were not believers.
[1:26] Speaker 4: Y'all didn't really believe it in your heart. Not believers.
[1:30] Speaker 3: Y'all up 3-0.
[1:30] Speaker 2: That's why I picked y'all to win. We thought y'all
[1:33] Speaker 2: would finish that at home.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Saw LeBron walk on water, said, can he swim? Nah,
[1:37] Speaker 1: that's the type of shit we do here in the arena.
[1:39] Speaker 1: We represent a tough crowd, a card-carrying country club member.
[1:42] Speaker 1: We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back here with us.
[1:44] Speaker 3: Ho, ho, ho!
[1:47] Speaker 1: And on this side of the couch, the distinguished gentleman
[1:49] Speaker 1: from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin. So
[1:56] Speaker 1: we got some things to discuss, some positive, some negative,
[1:59] Speaker 1: but we will talk about them all. Here's what's cracking
[2:01] Speaker 1: in Gil's arena today. After going down 3-0, the Rockets
[2:06] Speaker 1: got their second straight win to force game six at
[2:08] Speaker 1: their crib. Is it time for the Lakers to hit
[2:11] Speaker 1: the panic button? Cade Cunningham came through with a historic
[2:14] Speaker 1: performance to keep the Pistons season alive. are the magic
[2:18] Speaker 1: on the verge of yet another 3-1 collapse. And the
[2:21] Speaker 1: Cavs rallied from a double-digit second-half deficit to beat the
[2:24] Speaker 1: Raptors in Game 5 on their home floor. Is it
[2:27] Speaker 1: time to start believing in Cleveland? But before we get
[2:30] Speaker 1: into all that, as always, this show is brought to
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[2:52] Speaker 1: your podcasts. So we're going to start the show with
[2:55] Speaker 1: some unfortunate situation that went down last night at the
[2:58] Speaker 1: arena formerly known as Staples Center. Rockets got their first
[3:01] Speaker 1: win of the series in Game 4 with a comfortable
[3:03] Speaker 1: 19-point win to avoid the sweep. Bouncing back from their
[3:07] Speaker 1: fourth-quarter meltdown in Game 3 to keep their season alive,
[3:10] Speaker 1: LeBron had his third lowest scoring output in his playoff
[3:12] Speaker 1: career in Game 4 as the Rockets' defense forced Bron
[3:15] Speaker 1: into eight turnovers and the Lakers into a season-high 24
[3:19] Speaker 1: as a team, with Houston scoring 33 points off those miscues.
[3:23] Speaker 1: Rockets were still without KD in Game 5. Durant missed
[3:26] Speaker 1: his fourth game in this series in third straight while
[3:28] Speaker 1: dealing with a bone bruise in his sprained ankle. But
[3:31] Speaker 1: the Lakers did get Austin Reeves back for the first
[3:33] Speaker 1: time since suffering an oblique strain on April 2nd. So J.J.
[3:37] Speaker 1: Redick and Jabari Smith Jr. offered these thoughts on the
[3:39] Speaker 1: series heading into Game 5.
[3:42] Speaker 4: It's difficult to kill someone.
[3:43] Speaker 3: You know, you've got to.
[3:46] Speaker 4: Again, survival instinct says I want to stay alive.
[3:49] Speaker 3: So you've got to be able to kill that.
[3:51] Speaker 4: That's what you've got to call it.
[3:52] Speaker 6: We're obviously the better team, I feel like. So just
[3:55] Speaker 6: knowing that, being confident, trusting our word. He's just telling
[3:59] Speaker 6: us to be us. Why do you think you're the
[4:00] Speaker 6: better team in the series?
[4:02] Speaker 1: We?
[4:02] Speaker 3: Us?
[4:03] Speaker 6: I just feel like from top to bottom. You can
[4:06] Speaker 6: say that's an opinion. You can say I'm biased. But
[4:07] Speaker 6: I just think we're the better team.
[4:09] Speaker 1: Jabari Smith said they're the better team. So of the
[4:11] Speaker 1: 159 teams that have been down 3-0 in NBA playoff history,
[4:15] Speaker 1: only 15 were able to come back and force a
[4:17] Speaker 1: game six, and this Rocket squad came through with a
[4:20] Speaker 1: gritty win to add their name to the list. Let's
[4:23] Speaker 1: take a look at the highlights or lowlights for some.
[4:26] Speaker 1: Lakers look good in the first quarter, jumping out to
[4:30] Speaker 1: a seven-point lead, leading by double digits in that first frame,
[4:35] Speaker 1: but it did not last. Rockets responded, outscoring the Lakers
[4:38] Speaker 1: 30-19 in the second quarter. Ended up taking a four-point
[4:43] Speaker 1: lead into the break. Rockets found their three-point stroke.
[4:47] Speaker 4: Did what they had to do.
[4:51] Speaker 1: So Houston took advantage of a sluggish Lakers squad. Kept
[4:58] Speaker 1: their foot on the gas in the second half of
[5:00] Speaker 1: this game. All five Rockets starters scored in double figures.
[5:04] Speaker 1: Jabari Smith Jr. backing up his talk with a team-high
[5:06] Speaker 1: 22 points on 6-13 shooting, hitting four of his nine
[5:10] Speaker 1: three-point attempts. Tari Eason added 18-5 boards Aubrey Shangoon had
[5:14] Speaker 1: 14 nine boards and eight assists Austin Reeves looked rusty
[5:17] Speaker 1: in his first playoff action coming off the bench to
[5:20] Speaker 1: put up 22 points and six assists in 34 minutes
[5:23] Speaker 1: the man known as Lemon Daddy was 4 of 16
[5:25] Speaker 1: from the field 2 for 8 from distance but 12
[5:28] Speaker 1: of 13 from the free throw line LeBron did his
[5:31] Speaker 1: best to try to keep the Lakers in this one
[5:34] Speaker 1: the game out 25 points including 11 in the fourth
[5:36] Speaker 1: quarter along with seven assists DeAndre Ayton had 18 and
[5:38] Speaker 1: 17 boards and Luke Kennard cooled off after a sizzling
[5:42] Speaker 1: start to the series. Kennard had just one point in
[5:45] Speaker 1: 31 minutes of action, missing all four of his shots.
[5:48] Speaker 1: Rockets led by as much as 13 in the fourth quarter.
[5:50] Speaker 1: Lakers won an 11-1 run to cut the deficit to
[5:52] Speaker 1: three after a bronze-driving layup. But then Reed Shepard got
[5:56] Speaker 1: those back-to-back buckets, including some get-back on Braun, ripping him
[6:00] Speaker 1: and finishing with a dunk to put Houston up seven.
[6:03] Speaker 1: Lakers tried to rally, could not make a three to
[6:04] Speaker 1: save their life. Purple and Gold went one for ten
[6:06] Speaker 1: from deep in the final frame. shot just 26% from
[6:10] Speaker 1: distance in the game. So Rockets are now the 16th
[6:13] Speaker 1: team in NBA history to force a Game 6 after
[6:16] Speaker 1: going down 3-0, while LeBron saw his NBA record streak
[6:19] Speaker 1: of 16 straight wins in series-clinching home games snap. So
[6:23] Speaker 1: after the game, Jabari Smith Jr. talked about how the
[6:26] Speaker 1: team bounced back from their Game 3 loss, and LeBron
[6:28] Speaker 1: offered his thoughts on how the series has shifted.
[6:31] Speaker 3: We've seen playoff basketball.
[6:32] Speaker 4: You know that you've got to bring it every night.
[6:34] Speaker 4: You know you can't settle into the game.
[6:36] Speaker 6: This playoff is supposed to be physical.
[6:39] Speaker 4: All out from the jump.
[6:40] Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?
[6:41] Speaker 4: And we have to know how to close games.
[6:42] Speaker 6: We've got to know how to stay poised in those
[6:44] Speaker 6: pressure moments.
[6:45] Speaker 4: And I think it was just a learning moment. And
[6:49] Speaker 4: I feel like we grew up.
[6:50] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
[6:51] Speaker 3: We're growing up together.
[6:53] Speaker 6: And it's just good to see Reed bounce back from
[6:56] Speaker 6: the mistake, me bounce back from the mistake, just the
[6:58] Speaker 6: team in general. with us in the same kind of
[7:00] Speaker 6: situation today up maybe six with you know a minute's
[7:03] Speaker 6: left 58 seconds left where a week ago we folded
[7:06] Speaker 6: and lost the game you know I'm saying so I
[7:08] Speaker 6: think that's a step in the right direction.
[7:10] Speaker 8: Once we get on that plane head down to Houston
[7:12] Speaker 8: we got to forget about it understand what we're going
[7:14] Speaker 8: for and it's gonna be even harder man like every
[7:17] Speaker 8: game is hard it's so hard to close out a
[7:18] Speaker 8: team in the postseason you know to win a series
[7:21] Speaker 8: and this is our first time doing it as a
[7:23] Speaker 8: unit so You know, we'll.
[7:27] Speaker 4: See what we got.
[7:33] Speaker 8: I don't care about shit like that, bro. The game's
[7:38] Speaker 8: going between the four lines. I don't give a damn
[7:40] Speaker 8: who cares. I mean, of course you say it. Why
[7:43] Speaker 8: would you say we're not the better team? Ask one
[7:47] Speaker 8: of them young guys that question.
[7:48] Speaker 3: I'm too old for that shit.
[7:53] Speaker 1: Could have asked the other LeBron that question. There was
[7:57] Speaker 1: no need for smoke right now. There was no need
[8:00] Speaker 1: for smoke. There was. That was LeBron. That was LeBron.
[8:03] Speaker 3: He's smoking. No.
[8:05] Speaker 1: The Lakers got smoked.
[8:06] Speaker 4: We did.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Swaggy, we'll start with you. What are your biggest takeaways
[8:08] Speaker 1: from the Rockets' Game 5 win over the Lakers to
[8:11] Speaker 1: avoid elimination in the series?
[8:14] Speaker 4: I feel like this is what Houston was supposed to do.
[8:17] Speaker 4: If you would have told me that this Lakers squad
[8:19] Speaker 4: with Luke Kinnar, Jackson Hayes, Marcus Smart, LeBron was going
[8:25] Speaker 4: to be a 3-0, I wouldn't have believed it. But
[8:31] Speaker 4: they're here, and that's why I feel like we are excited.
[8:33] Speaker 4: We didn't see this happening, but I feel like Houston
[8:37] Speaker 4: is the better team. I feel like it shouldn't have
[8:40] Speaker 4: been like this. It shouldn't be like this in this situation,
[8:42] Speaker 4: but it is, and hopefully we can put it up.
[8:45] Speaker 4: You know, game six, AR should feel a little more comfortable.
[8:52] Speaker 4: And if it goes seven, I feel like they're going to,
[8:58] Speaker 4: no matter his age, he should have, Lakers should win
[9:04] Speaker 4: this series. It shouldn't go seven. I don't want to
[9:08] Speaker 4: make excuses for LeBron, but. We shouldn't be in this
[9:11] Speaker 4: situation to begin with without A.R. and Luka. But we here,
[9:17] Speaker 4: so we got to do it. We got to finish it.
[9:19] Speaker 4: You know, there's no excuses. Swaggy, how old are you?
[9:22] Speaker 4: I'm 40.
[9:23] Speaker 1: Do you feel like at four years old you could
[9:24] Speaker 1: carry this Lakers squad?
[9:25] Speaker 4: I don't, but you can't do that to us, though.
[9:29] Speaker 4: You can't show us 3-0. I'm saying.
[9:31] Speaker 3: And then... We are all.
[9:33] Speaker 4: On the older side of the spectrum. That's what I'm saying.
[9:36] Speaker 4: We shouldn't be up. We shouldn't have been up 3-0.
[9:40] Speaker 4: Especially with KD coming back. Everybody thought that was going
[9:42] Speaker 4: to be the game deciding. Game two was going to
[9:46] Speaker 4: be the game deciding game. But we ended up winning
[9:49] Speaker 4: three straight. And at this rate... The Lakers are turning
[9:54] Speaker 4: back into who we thought they were. Luke Kennard with two,
[9:57] Speaker 4: four points yesterday.
[9:59] Speaker 1: One point, 0 for 4 from the field.
[10:00] Speaker 4: Let's see. Marcus Smart ain't had one of them games
[10:04] Speaker 4: since game three.
[10:07] Speaker 1: So, Kennard was playing like a corner with freedom early
[10:10] Speaker 1: in this series.
[10:11] Speaker 4: 27.
[10:11] Speaker 1: But it seems like the shackles are now being put
[10:13] Speaker 1: back on. Man, it's tough, man. Back to corner boy relegation. Man, man.
[10:19] Speaker 1: No freedom.
[10:19] Speaker 4: The life of a corner is tough. But getting that
[10:22] Speaker 4: yard back, I feel like we should win game six.
[10:26] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's shift over to you, Mr. B.
[10:28] Speaker 1: What are your biggest takeaways from the Rockets' game five
[10:31] Speaker 1: win over the Los Angeles Lakers?
[10:34] Speaker 5: This situation to me is like, man, being up 30 and,
[10:38] Speaker 5: you know, the other team still got their starters in
[10:39] Speaker 5: and they're just still playing hard, playing hard, and you're.
[10:41] Speaker 4: Just taking your foot off the gas.
[10:44] Speaker 5: Um, you know, the first three games, you know, the
[10:46] Speaker 5: coat from the coaching and everything, the pressure defense is
[10:48] Speaker 5: just not the same right now. The intensity, um, you know,
[10:51] Speaker 5: they shit the bed last night and Houston is playing with, with,
[10:54] Speaker 5: with their backs against the walls. Um, and you know,
[10:58] Speaker 5: with Marcus Smart being over to LeBron, you know, these
[11:00] Speaker 5: guys who've been to the playoffs, they.
[11:01] Speaker 4: Shouldn't know that.
[11:02] Speaker 5: Um, so like I told before, the Lakers, they need
[11:05] Speaker 5: to hit that.
[11:05] Speaker 4: Panic button again. Um, because being up 3-0 and then
[11:09] Speaker 4: losing to a team.
[11:10] Speaker 5: Without one of their best players, um, You know, it's
[11:14] Speaker 5: going to look very bad. So, you know, Luke Canary
[11:16] Speaker 5: cannot have a game like he had. One point, playing
[11:18] Speaker 5: 31 minutes. Aiden, you know, he's doing this thing 18
[11:22] Speaker 5: and 17. But, you know, you got to– man, they
[11:25] Speaker 5: got to figure it out, man. They need to push
[11:27] Speaker 5: the panning button right now. Because if you lose game six,
[11:31] Speaker 5: I definitely see them losing game seven. Because these young boys,
[11:33] Speaker 5: they're still young and they got a lot of confidence.
[11:36] Speaker 4: And A.R.
[11:36] Speaker 5: Coming back 4 for 16 with that– With that headband?
[11:41] Speaker 5: Pissing me the fuck off. The headband from Austin?
[11:43] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[11:44] Speaker 1: You don't like the Austin Reeves headband?
[11:45] Speaker 3: Nah, man.
[11:46] Speaker 4: No need for the headband right now.
[11:48] Speaker 1: The control sweat. Sweat right there.
[11:49] Speaker 3: But yeah, man.
[11:50] Speaker 5: It's just time for the Lakers to hit the panic button.
[11:52] Speaker 4: Seriously.
[11:53] Speaker 3: All right.
[11:53] Speaker 1: Well, let's shift over to this side of the couch.
[11:54] Speaker 1: The distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff. Kenyon, biggest takeaways from
[11:59] Speaker 1: the Rockets game five win over the Lakers?
[12:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[12:03] Speaker 2: It's LeBron. I'm serious. I'm really excited. Like, it's hard, man. Like,
[12:08] Speaker 2: to close a team out.
[12:09] Speaker 3: They going to scratch, claw, bite, do it all, man,
[12:15] Speaker 3: not to go home, right? So you got to really
[12:18] Speaker 3: be the team in the playoffs. And with the way
[12:24] Speaker 3: the Rockets have been constructed is backyard basketball. That's what
[12:28] Speaker 3: they're trying to turn into with a little skill here
[12:31] Speaker 3: and there. Without KD, they know, they understand how they
[12:34] Speaker 3: need to play, right? They can't rely on that 25
[12:37] Speaker 3: to 30 a night, which.
[12:39] Speaker 3: They've had that crutch all season. So without him, the
[12:44] Speaker 3: game is going to look a certain way. And I
[12:46] Speaker 3: think they have the better of those kind of players.
[12:51] Speaker 2: Than the Lakers. With the Luke Canard.
[12:54] Speaker 3: Thing is, hey, son, bring me that wrench in there.
[12:58] Speaker 3: I need to turn this ward off.
[13:02] Speaker 2: That's what they did. That's what they did to Luke Canard, right?
[13:05] Speaker 3: Game one, scouting report, he wasn't really, they were like,
[13:08] Speaker 3: all right, we know he got it going.
[13:09] Speaker 2: Game two, he played okay.
[13:12] Speaker 3: Been downhill ever since because now it's like, hey, make
[13:17] Speaker 3: him put the ball on the floor, right? Run him
[13:19] Speaker 3: off the three-point line. That's what they've been doing. And
[13:22] Speaker 3: what else can he do, right? If he's not scoring
[13:27] Speaker 3: and making threes, why is he playing 31 minutes, right?
[13:31] Speaker 2: That's another question.
[13:34] Speaker 3: I don't understand what Luke Kennard brings to the table
[13:37] Speaker 3: other than shot making. They're looking for him on defense.
[13:43] Speaker 3: They're seeking him out on the other end.
[13:47] Speaker 2: That's for their coaching staff to figure out. Having A.R.
[13:51] Speaker 3: Back gave them a boost in the beginning, I think,
[13:54] Speaker 3: knowing that they were going to have some scoring off
[13:56] Speaker 3: the bench where they have not had in the previous games.
[14:00] Speaker 3: But Houston has all the momentum. They have all the
[14:03] Speaker 3: momentum going home. They understand what they didn't do in
[14:06] Speaker 3: game three, how they let that slip through their fingers.
[14:08] Speaker 3: So it was a learning, like Jabari Smith said, it
[14:12] Speaker 3: was a learning experience for them. And I think they
[14:15] Speaker 3: have learned from what they didn't do right to lose
[14:18] Speaker 3: that game. But yeah, no, it's going to be interesting
[14:23] Speaker 3: how game six goes. And to Nick and Brandon's point,
[14:26] Speaker 3: if they don't get it done in game six, it's...
[14:30] Speaker 3: It's real sketchy in that seventh one, man.
[14:33] Speaker 5: Boy, I'm going to feel like a brick.
[14:34] Speaker 3: What? A hole. Heavy hell.
[14:35] Speaker 4: It's going to be heavy.
[14:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
[14:37] Speaker 4: They're going to be playing with confidence, boy.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, and to your point, they're young, man.
[14:43] Speaker 3: They're young, so they got their reserve tank. So they
[14:47] Speaker 3: just going, right? And now, if he didn't play well offensively,
[14:53] Speaker 3: he had nine assists, but he didn't play well, so.
[14:58] Speaker 1: They're doubling them a lot in that game, obviously.
[15:00] Speaker 3: You better.
[15:01] Speaker 1: Marcus Mark said he was capable of overcoming those doubles,
[15:05] Speaker 1: making the right decision, obviously, to get those nine and six.
[15:07] Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
[15:07] Speaker 1: They got to go back to the drawing board there, but.
[15:10] Speaker 2: But DeAndre paid well for you guys.
[15:13] Speaker 4: San Guno almost had a triple-double.
[15:15] Speaker 2: Say that again?
[15:16] Speaker 3: San Guno almost had a triple-double yesterday. Yeah, yeah.
[15:18] Speaker 2: Nine and eight. But the scoring part, the scoring was down.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[15:23] Speaker 3: You know, it's going to get interesting. It's not going
[15:25] Speaker 3: to get, it is interesting.
[15:27] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[15:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[15:31] Speaker 2: Going to them people crib, game six.
[15:34] Speaker 5: Because they played one game with KD this playoff series,
[15:37] Speaker 5: and they played three without him so far, right?
[15:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[15:40] Speaker 4: Four or whatever. Four.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play game one.
[15:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, so he played game two.
[15:44] Speaker 2: He played game two. And he was hampering game two.
[15:46] Speaker 2: He didn't play games three, four, or five.
[15:48] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:48] Speaker 1: So game one was the knee injury. He suffered bumping
[15:51] Speaker 1: knees with a teammate, I think, before the series started.
[15:55] Speaker 1: The last three games have been bone bruise and sprained ankle.
[15:58] Speaker 2: Why is he practicing?
[16:00] Speaker 3: I don't know what the practice situation has been like
[16:02] Speaker 3: post that.
[16:02] Speaker 1: He said he was practicing. So he came back for two.
[16:05] Speaker 1: I mean, he was practicing before that.
[16:06] Speaker 3: But I'm saying the game before, like, to miss before
[16:10] Speaker 3: he bumped. So he missed game one of the playoffs.
[16:12] Speaker 1: Missed game one.
[16:14] Speaker 2: Because allegedly he bumped knees with him.
[16:15] Speaker 1: Did an on-court workout before that game was ruled out,
[16:17] Speaker 1: I think, shortly before that game started.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, but why is he practicing?
[16:22] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Like, why is he practicing?
[16:24] Speaker 1: We talk about practice.
[16:25] Speaker 3: No, no, like, I understand walk-through, you're getting, you're going
[16:28] Speaker 3: over sets. Oh, you're talking about leading up to that.
[16:30] Speaker 3: Leading up to that. Like, you're going through sets and
[16:32] Speaker 3: you're doing certain things to get ready for the playoff.
[16:34] Speaker 2: Like, this man, what, 37? Like, why is he, like, what, what?
[16:40] Speaker 4: He's playing once.
[16:41] Speaker 3: He's playing once. Like, for what?
[16:42] Speaker 4: Those y'all talk that one-on-one shit.
[16:44] Speaker 3: Like, for what, though? You know what I'm saying? Either,
[16:46] Speaker 3: whatever it is.
[16:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[16:47] Speaker 3: Hey, somebody got to step in. Like, nah, hey, we
[16:49] Speaker 3: need you. Yeah. Like, hey, one thing we cannot afford
[16:52] Speaker 3: is for you to go down. Right.
[16:57] Speaker 2: So.
[16:57] Speaker 5: And you just seen every coverage.
[16:58] Speaker 3: So you can sit down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't
[17:01] Speaker 3: need to do that. Just go out there. Dead ass.
[17:04] Speaker 4: The bump knees will be out five games.
[17:06] Speaker 3: To miss the first game of the playoff. No, you
[17:08] Speaker 3: missed the first one. How hard did you work?
[17:11] Speaker 1: No, so Swaggy, missed the first game with the... Whatever, nigga.
[17:14] Speaker 3: You going to make a move and you go knee
[17:16] Speaker 3: to knee?
[17:17] Speaker 2: Boy, hey.
[17:18] Speaker 1: Missed the first game with the knee and then sprained
[17:20] Speaker 1: his ankle, I believe, in game two and then missed
[17:22] Speaker 1: the next three with the bone bruise and the sprained ankle.
[17:24] Speaker 1: So two separate injuries.
[17:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, which.
[17:27] Speaker 1: If you're 37 plus, you know, like my shoulder hurts
[17:29] Speaker 1: right now. I haven't done anything physical or laborious in years.
[17:34] Speaker 4: He bumped knees the same day of the game.
[17:36] Speaker 3: No, he tried to work out. No, leading up to
[17:40] Speaker 3: game one, they were practicing or he was playing ones.
[17:42] Speaker 3: Whatever he was doing, he bumped knees with someone. He
[17:45] Speaker 3: worked out the day of the game, pregame, and he
[17:48] Speaker 3: decided that he couldn't go in the game. My thing is,
[17:51] Speaker 3: his pregame routine is what it is.
[17:54] Speaker 2: He's going to do that.
[17:56] Speaker 3: Leading up to the game one, why y'all getting up
[18:01] Speaker 3: and down? Or him playing ones, why?
[18:03] Speaker 4: I know Brown ain't.
[18:07] Speaker 3: Listen, I played a lot of playoff basketball. I was
[18:10] Speaker 3: prepared for a lot of different series. Trust me. One
[18:13] Speaker 3: thing he wasn't going to do is put me not
[18:16] Speaker 3: being able to play in jeopardy in the playoffs.
[18:20] Speaker 2: It ain't going to happen.
[18:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:22] Speaker 4: Right?
[18:23] Speaker 2: Because this is when you.
[18:25] Speaker 3: That is different.
[18:27] Speaker 2: Like, no, I wish you would come in that business. Hey, fellas,
[18:29] Speaker 2: we're going to get up and down today.
[18:30] Speaker 3: The fuck?
[18:31] Speaker 4: Who?
[18:32] Speaker 3: That is different. Who? Who going to get up and
[18:35] Speaker 3: down today?
[18:35] Speaker 4: Right.
[18:39] Speaker 3: Stretch and watch.
[18:40] Speaker 9: I start talking to him like, Russ, I'm top 75, man.
[18:42] Speaker 4: Got to wear my jacket in here.
[18:44] Speaker 1: I need to wear these rings in here to let
[18:45] Speaker 1: you know.
[18:46] Speaker 3: It is a week off before they play in and
[18:47] Speaker 3: all that.
[18:48] Speaker 1: So work out.
[18:57] Speaker 3: I mean, you can work out by yourself.
[19:01] Speaker 4: Like, what's going to be the difference? We don't know
[19:04] Speaker 4: if it's ones, though. Whatever it is.
[19:06] Speaker 10: Like I said, it's ones or plenty.
[19:09] Speaker 3: Listen, I said ones or getting up and down. Either one.
[19:11] Speaker 3: Was it a walkthrough?
[19:13] Speaker 5: Like, if you're walking through and bumping, it's like, man,
[19:15] Speaker 5: what y'all doing?
[19:16] Speaker 1: So, he stained the injury during a practice collision with
[19:18] Speaker 1: a teammate. Don't know how the factors leading to that collision.
[19:21] Speaker 1: Caused tenderness in his patella tendon area. Why is he practicing?
[19:25] Speaker 1: Taped up before game one. Went through his pregame workout.
[19:28] Speaker 1: Got ruled out for that game. But now, he's going
[19:30] Speaker 1: to be out for game six as well. So, now
[19:32] Speaker 1: they're making these announcements. It's not even a question. The
[19:36] Speaker 1: ball rules is hurt.
[19:37] Speaker 4: Okay, since that. So, they ain't got no timetable of
[19:40] Speaker 4: when he can come back. That's the crazy part. Like,
[19:43] Speaker 4: It's a bone bruise.
[19:45] Speaker 1: We don't know. They said previously that if this injury
[19:48] Speaker 1: occurred during the regular season, it'd be a two to
[19:50] Speaker 1: three week time frame.
[19:51] Speaker 3: Obviously, the playoffs are different. Still two to three weeks.
[19:56] Speaker 3: Try to play, he can't. If he can't go, I
[20:02] Speaker 3: think he tried on the knee, said he couldn't go.
[20:06] Speaker 4: Could it have been like he thought the series was
[20:08] Speaker 4: over at a certain point?
[20:10] Speaker 2: Well, you're down three games, shit.
[20:13] Speaker 10: Could it be that? Historically, you're down three.
[20:15] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[20:16] Speaker 4: Could it be that?
[20:16] Speaker 3: And then they flipped the script.
[20:18] Speaker 4: Now you're like, oh, shit.
[20:19] Speaker 2: No, but if it gets seven, it might.
[20:21] Speaker 5: I'll rest some more and come back to my location.
[20:23] Speaker 3: I'm saying if it goes seven, it might heal up
[20:26] Speaker 3: by game one. That's what I'm saying. It goes seven.
[20:28] Speaker 3: You might get out there and take a shot of
[20:30] Speaker 3: Toradol and go out there and be like, you know what?
[20:31] Speaker 4: I'm going to have a fresh one.
[20:32] Speaker 3: Motherfucking bruise don't feel that bad today.
[20:37] Speaker 4: Do that look suspicious if he come back game seven?
[20:40] Speaker 1: Hey.
[20:41] Speaker 3: Locker room like, hold on now. Nah, hey. Hold on now.
[20:45] Speaker 9: So you're going to turn 20-star down?
[20:47] Speaker 3: Hold on now.
[20:47] Speaker 5: DeVarie Smith Jr. have 30 next game and then come
[20:49] Speaker 5: back game.
[20:50] Speaker 4: He's like, hold on now.
[20:51] Speaker 2: Shit, hey, trust me.
[20:53] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[20:53] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
[20:55] Speaker 1: Nah, but I think it is what it is at
[20:57] Speaker 1: this point. It is what it is at this point.
[21:00] Speaker 1: Rockets players hating from their burners.
[21:04] Speaker 3: Now you want to come back, huh?
[21:06] Speaker 4: Where was your ass at when we was down 3-0?
[21:10] Speaker 1: Let's go a little bit deeper into this series. There's
[21:12] Speaker 1: been a stark difference in how both teams have looked
[21:14] Speaker 1: in the last two games compared to the first three.
[21:17] Speaker 1: Lakers offense on fire to start this series. They're averaging
[21:19] Speaker 1: 107 points, shooting 51% from the field, 46% from three.
[21:24] Speaker 1: In the last two games, they're putting up just 95 points,
[21:27] Speaker 1: shooting 46% from the field, 25% from three. Meanwhile, The Rockets'
[21:31] Speaker 1: offense has found their rhythm, averaging seven more points per
[21:34] Speaker 1: game in their two wins while shooting better from the
[21:36] Speaker 1: field and from three. Lakers have also appeared to be
[21:40] Speaker 1: running on fumes these past two games while this young
[21:42] Speaker 1: Rockets squad seems energized. So, Swaggy, how concerned should the
[21:46] Speaker 1: Lakers be by these last two games? Took a 3-0 lead,
[21:51] Speaker 1: two back-to-back games. Leston Stedler did not play with their food,
[21:54] Speaker 1: if you will.
[21:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:58] Speaker 4: For me, I always thought the Rockets did have the
[22:00] Speaker 4: better team, just young. I looked at Sangoon as a
[22:09] Speaker 4: star in his league just because of the pass and
[22:14] Speaker 4: what he did last playoffs and all that. But coming
[22:17] Speaker 4: into this, the first three games, I don't know what happened,
[22:20] Speaker 4: I thought. I don't know what I've seen in the Rockets.
[22:24] Speaker 4: And what the Lakers was doing, I thought, you know,
[22:27] Speaker 4: it's years. It's the vets. LeBron played with 20 playoff series.
[22:33] Speaker 4: I mean, years of playoffs. And Marcus Smart was a champion.
[22:38] Speaker 4: Championship experience. Not being, making it to the finals. Luka
[22:43] Speaker 4: Norr been in this league for a minute. Fucking Aiden
[22:47] Speaker 4: been to the finals.
[22:49] Speaker 3: So I.
[22:50] Speaker 4: You know, once they got it going, I said, okay,
[22:52] Speaker 4: the Lakers got a chance.
[22:54] Speaker 3: No KD.
[22:55] Speaker 4: The KD come back. I thought it was over.
[22:58] Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.
[22:59] Speaker 4: Once KD came back, I thought the Lakers was done.
[23:01] Speaker 4: They ended up shocking me. But now I feel like
[23:04] Speaker 4: they're just turning back into who I thought Luke Kennard
[23:07] Speaker 4: was in the beginning. Going up against A. Thomas and
[23:13] Speaker 4: Jabari Smith. I feel like the Rockets got momentum. They
[23:19] Speaker 4: got a chance to Do so. Tell you the truth.
[23:22] Speaker 1: So, King, who's under more pressure going into game six
[23:24] Speaker 1: in Houston?
[23:25] Speaker 3: Who the hell you mean?
[23:26] Speaker 2: Who's under more pressure?
[23:27] Speaker 3: Right?
[23:27] Speaker 1: Rocket season on the line. Lakers can trick off another game. Lakers.
[23:31] Speaker 3: Lakers. Lakers.
[23:32] Speaker 1: Come back home for game seven.
[23:34] Speaker 3: Okay, you got that in your pocket, but you don't
[23:35] Speaker 3: want to use it. You don't want to have to
[23:36] Speaker 3: use it. You don't want to have to use it
[23:38] Speaker 3: in game seven to finish this thing, man.
[23:40] Speaker 4: What?
[23:40] Speaker 3: Trust me. You don't want to do that. You do
[23:43] Speaker 3: not want to do that. I don't even remember the...
[23:46] Speaker 3: The Golden State Warriors and the Houston Rockets series. They
[23:49] Speaker 3: went out and missed 27 straight threes on your home
[23:53] Speaker 3: floor in game seven. No, you do not want that.
[23:58] Speaker 3: That ain't what you want, bruh.
[24:00] Speaker 1: They can make at least one.
[24:01] Speaker 3: No, they missed 27 straight. You know how hard that
[24:05] Speaker 3: is to do? On your own floor? You don't want
[24:10] Speaker 3: that to happen to you, man. So you want to
[24:12] Speaker 3: finish this thing out as quickly as you can, man.
[24:15] Speaker 3: And they haven't done it yet, but they got another opportunity,
[24:17] Speaker 3: game six.
[24:20] Speaker 1: We know where opportunity works out.
[24:22] Speaker 4: One point. One point in 30 minutes.
[24:26] Speaker 1: One whole point.
[24:26] Speaker 3: Turn the water off, bro. Run him off the line.
[24:29] Speaker 1: Couldn't even make two free throws.
[24:31] Speaker 3: Couldn't make two, made one. Put him in every situation. Yeah,
[24:34] Speaker 3: got to the line. So now it's talking about, this
[24:37] Speaker 3: is going to get Luke and all going. Nah, nah,
[24:39] Speaker 3: it ain't going to get him going.
[24:40] Speaker 4: 50-40-90.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Definitely ain't going to get him going.
[24:43] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Shout out to Dorian Finney-Smith for
[24:48] Speaker 3: staying ready, man.
[24:49] Speaker 1: Also known as Black and Mild.
[24:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, Black and Mild, dog.
[24:52] Speaker 2: Championship with you guys as well, though.
[24:55] Speaker 3: He wasn't on the bubble team?
[24:56] Speaker 1: No, I think he came later. Later in the mix.
[24:59] Speaker 5: It's a lot of pressure on the Lakers. It's a
[25:00] Speaker 5: lot of pressure on the Lakers. It's a lot of
[25:03] Speaker 5: concern about the Lakers. I just seen those comments about
[25:06] Speaker 5: Brian made about the GOAT conversation.
[25:08] Speaker 1: We're going to chat about that. Being up 3-0.
[25:12] Speaker 4: I don't think no team has. You don't want to
[25:15] Speaker 4: be the first. No, no, the 15th.
[25:17] Speaker 5: It's a match at that point. It'll be the 15th
[25:20] Speaker 5: if they have to get to a game seven. But, yeah,
[25:23] Speaker 5: it's a lot of pressure, man, because they took their
[25:24] Speaker 5: foot off the gas pedal. And I said they got
[25:26] Speaker 5: to hit that panic button again. I don't know what
[25:28] Speaker 5: happened and what the mindset was game one and game two,
[25:31] Speaker 5: but they need to try to figure it back out. LeBron,
[25:34] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like you just said, you're talking
[25:36] Speaker 5: about the GOAT conversation, being up 3-0. Yeah, you're 41,
[25:39] Speaker 5: but hey, you lose first round to this, it's going
[25:42] Speaker 5: to be a stinger.
[25:43] Speaker 4: They're going to have something to pick at.
[25:45] Speaker 1: Really? No Luka for the whole series?
[25:48] Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you're
[25:49] Speaker 9: still up 3-0.
[25:50] Speaker 1: The guy? So to be put on the third option?
[25:53] Speaker 3: Somebody's going to be on LeBron James if they lose.
[25:57] Speaker 1: His first begotten son? I don't want to rock his
[26:00] Speaker 1: bench and gowns.
[26:00] Speaker 4: They're not looking at that 41-year-old.
[26:02] Speaker 9: They don't care how old that man is, dog. He
[26:05] Speaker 9: said he's a GOAT.
[26:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't care how old that man is.
[26:08] Speaker 3: He lacing them up.
[26:10] Speaker 2: He lacing them up.
[26:10] Speaker 3: They're going to critique him.
[26:11] Speaker 4: Jordan never did this.
[26:12] Speaker 1: He did not make the playoffs.
[26:15] Speaker 3: But it don't matter.
[26:16] Speaker 4: That's the thing.
[26:19] Speaker 3: He wasn't there to get critiqued. Can't hate on me
[26:23] Speaker 3: if I'm not there. Yeah, that's the way it goes.
[26:25] Speaker 3: Out of sight, out of mind, brother.
[26:27] Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about that LeBron article
[26:30] Speaker 1: that came out. So on Wednesday before Game 5, ESPN's
[26:32] Speaker 1: Dave McMinnon dropped an article featuring a season-long 23-question Q &
[26:36] Speaker 1: A with LeBron covering a variety of topics to celebrate
[26:39] Speaker 1: his 23rd season in the league. So when McMinnon asked
[26:42] Speaker 1: LeBron what did Michael Jordan do better than him and
[26:45] Speaker 1: what does he do better than MJ, LeBron offered this
[26:48] Speaker 1: response saying, quote, I have never compared myself to MJ
[26:54] Speaker 1: because our games are totally different. I've been a point forward,
[26:57] Speaker 1: forward point my whole life. I've always looked for the pass.
[27:00] Speaker 1: MJ kind of looked for the shot. Not kind of,
[27:03] Speaker 1: he did. He looked for the shot. There are a
[27:05] Speaker 1: lot of things where I would say my game is
[27:07] Speaker 1: a lot different and a little better than his, but shit,
[27:10] Speaker 1: he was effing great. We're both great. We're both great
[27:13] Speaker 1: basketball players. Bron also offered his thoughts on the never-ending
[27:18] Speaker 1: GOAT debate, saying, quote, I think it's a very tiring conversation.
[27:22] Speaker 1: It's barbershop talk. You can look at both of us
[27:25] Speaker 1: and say that you love both of us without trying
[27:27] Speaker 1: to shit on the other person. And usually, it's shitting
[27:30] Speaker 1: on me. But I hope I made him proud, at least,
[27:33] Speaker 1: wearing that number 23. Mr. B, what are your thoughts
[27:38] Speaker 1: on LeBron's comments on the MJ comparisons and the GOAT debate?
[27:43] Speaker 5: Very candid. Shout out to David McNamee. I mean, yeah,
[27:45] Speaker 5: they're two different players. I mean, LeBron, they compared... coming in,
[27:49] Speaker 5: they could play LeBron and Matthew Johnson. So, you know, he, unfortunately,
[27:54] Speaker 5: he was just able to score all the points, assist
[27:57] Speaker 5: leaders and all this other stuff. But, I mean, he's
[28:00] Speaker 5: a killer in his own way. You know, he's a
[28:01] Speaker 5: dog in his own way. He came out of high
[28:03] Speaker 5: school doing it. And he's lived up to the hype
[28:06] Speaker 5: every single day. So, from his standpoint, if he want
[28:09] Speaker 5: to feel like he's the GOAT and he's the greatest,
[28:10] Speaker 5: he has that right to say that. I don't know
[28:13] Speaker 5: if anybody that's played basketball has been in every situation
[28:16] Speaker 5: like he has been as far as being talked about,
[28:18] Speaker 5: on and off the court, and just the things he's done.
[28:21] Speaker 5: So to me, for the GOAT debate, it's all about
[28:25] Speaker 5: who you love. You know, guys in the 90s, they
[28:27] Speaker 5: grew up to Mike. You know, I grew up to
[28:28] Speaker 5: LeBron James and Kobe Bryant. So those are the guys that,
[28:33] Speaker 5: you know, I looked up as my GOATs.
[28:36] Speaker 1: Kenny, when you see these comments from LeBron James, what's
[28:38] Speaker 1: your reaction to him talking about the MJ comparisons in
[28:42] Speaker 1: the GOAT debate?
[28:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was candid as he possibly can
[28:46] Speaker 3: be and honest. his honest opinion in it, his honest
[28:50] Speaker 3: thoughts and feelings in it. Because he's living in the
[28:54] Speaker 3: real time, right? He can only speak on how things
[28:59] Speaker 3: have transpired for him, right? Yeah, they're two different players.
[29:04] Speaker 3: They're both great in their own right, like he said.
[29:07] Speaker 3: Like Michael Jordan has stated before, the guys that came
[29:12] Speaker 3: before him, it's unfair to say that he's the greatest
[29:14] Speaker 3: because he didn't get to play against those guys, right?
[29:16] Speaker 3: So the They all have been great in their own right.
[29:19] Speaker 3: LeBron is in that conversation. And to say that you
[29:23] Speaker 3: are mentioned as one of the greatest players to ever
[29:26] Speaker 3: put on a pair of basketball shoes is nothing to
[29:29] Speaker 3: thumb your nose at. Whether you're 1, 2, 2, 1,
[29:32] Speaker 3: however you want to place it and place him in
[29:36] Speaker 3: that is your preference. But yeah, he's been great throughout
[29:42] Speaker 3: his tenure. He came in with a lot of pressure,
[29:45] Speaker 3: lived up to that pressure and hype, and he's still going.
[29:51] Speaker 3: But he's given a lot of room for critique and
[29:55] Speaker 3: people to have things to say, but he just keep pushing, right?
[30:00] Speaker 3: have a team up 3-0 in the playoffs now, which
[30:03] Speaker 3: not a lot of people.
[30:04] Speaker 2: Expected, right? So, no, it's, yeah, but no, that's just.
[30:08] Speaker 3: Honest to God's thoughts on how things have been for
[30:11] Speaker 3: him throughout his 23 years.
[30:14] Speaker 2: So, hey.
[30:16] Speaker 1: LeBron, he usually gets shit on in the GOAT debate.
[30:19] Speaker 1: As a LeBron fan, I can attest to that. LeBron
[30:21] Speaker 1: fans call glazers. Yeah, people, yeah, they got things. Like
[30:25] Speaker 1: you can't support.
[30:26] Speaker 3: Can't support.
[30:27] Speaker 1: Can't support. You're a glazer, swaggy. You changed your tune,
[30:29] Speaker 1: I think, earlier this season. Finally acknowledged and admitted the
[30:32] Speaker 1: reality that most people are uncomfortable with accepting that LeBron
[30:36] Speaker 1: has surpassed MJ.
[30:37] Speaker 3: I was in the get-out.
[30:39] Speaker 1: Were you just in the moment?
[30:40] Speaker 4: When you stuck in the get-out, you don't want to
[30:43] Speaker 4: say LeBron is the GOAT. They start doing the little
[30:47] Speaker 4: T thing and bring you back.
[30:49] Speaker 3: So, yeah.
[30:51] Speaker 4: I feel like.
[30:52] Speaker 3: I feel like.
[30:54] Speaker 4: Every time you even speak of LeBron, it's a problem. Like,
[30:59] Speaker 4: You'll see if you say anything about LeBron being the
[31:02] Speaker 4: GOAT or anything, comments going to fill up.
[31:05] Speaker 3: People get mad. It's outrageous.
[31:10] Speaker 4: I feel like Jordan never had to deal with this
[31:12] Speaker 4: type of media.
[31:13] Speaker 1: Media very pro-Jordan back in those days.
[31:17] Speaker 3: Man, couldn't do no wrong.
[31:21] Speaker 4: And now we're in a place where everybody has a voice.
[31:26] Speaker 3: It's not just.
[31:27] Speaker 4: two channels on, you know, cables, ESPN and stuff.
[31:33] Speaker 3: Everybody has their voice.
[31:34] Speaker 4: And I feel like the tune gonna change once the
[31:39] Speaker 4: generation become and take their spot. It's gonna hear a
[31:46] Speaker 4: lot of LeBron's, you know, this young generation love LeBron.
[31:51] Speaker 1: Are they going to hate on whoever is next in
[31:53] Speaker 1: line the same way that LeBron got hated on? No.
[31:56] Speaker 3: No, I just think it's because, you know, to Brandon's point, right? Like,
[32:01] Speaker 3: Brandon made the point, right? It's who you grew up watching, right?
[32:04] Speaker 3: Who you grew up, like, watching play the game. Like,
[32:09] Speaker 3: I'm older than y'all, so I grew up watching Mike
[32:12] Speaker 3: and the Pistons and them play. Like, I grew up,
[32:14] Speaker 3: that's my era. Like, my favorite team was the Pistons.
[32:16] Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas, like, could do no wrong in my eyes. Like,
[32:19] Speaker 3: that team can do no wrong. So that's my era, right?
[32:24] Speaker 3: Every era has their greats and their teams and people
[32:28] Speaker 3: who you're going to idolize.
[32:29] Speaker 2: And I'm glad Brian said it, right?
[32:33] Speaker 3: And that's been my, like, I try to debunk when
[32:38] Speaker 3: having the conversation with people about the greatest basketball player
[32:42] Speaker 3: of all time. I was in, I was on vacation
[32:44] Speaker 3: with my family in Florida, right? We had crab spot
[32:47] Speaker 3: eating and the dude sitting with his old lady before
[32:50] Speaker 3: the kids went to the, the kids went to the
[32:51] Speaker 3: bathroom to wash their hands. He wanted to have the
[32:53] Speaker 3: conversation about who's the greatest. I see the show, but
[32:56] Speaker 3: I watch the show all the time. Big fan, da, da, da, da, da.
[32:58] Speaker 3: He was like, who you got the greatest basketball player?
[33:02] Speaker 3: I said, Michael Jordan. He's like, well, I'm a LeBron guy.
[33:04] Speaker 3: And then he got to, he wanted to go into what.
[33:06] Speaker 2: Makes Bron better than Meyer. And I stopped him.
[33:09] Speaker 3: I'm like, what, what, what, what? But can't LeBron be
[33:13] Speaker 3: great in his own right, right? Without you saying anything
[33:16] Speaker 3: negative about Michael Jordan. Can LeBron, is LeBron great?
[33:20] Speaker 2: He said, yeah.
[33:20] Speaker 3: I said, is the same thing true about Michael, vice versa?
[33:24] Speaker 2: He was like, yeah. I said, yeah. You don't have
[33:28] Speaker 2: to shit on the other guy. But you don't have to.
[33:31] Speaker 4: They did it first. Like ESPN, I seen Stephen A said,
[33:35] Speaker 4: you know how I feel about MJ in my heart
[33:37] Speaker 4: and how much I love him. I seen him. But
[33:40] Speaker 4: that's bias. So you making him... Everybody's biased.
[33:43] Speaker 3: You're putting him one.
[33:45] Speaker 2: Everybody's biased.
[33:46] Speaker 4: But it's the people in charge that's older, that's seen,
[33:49] Speaker 4: that's always putting LeBron down, though.
[33:52] Speaker 3: That's the thing.
[33:53] Speaker 4: Every time you want to critique, want to talk negative
[33:56] Speaker 4: about him, they hope that fucking really Houston come back
[33:59] Speaker 4: and win. So you can have something to knock them down. Yeah,
[34:01] Speaker 4: they're going to have something to say. Those people who
[34:03] Speaker 4: not realist and not honest. George never even did the
[34:07] Speaker 4: things he's doing now.
[34:08] Speaker 3: They want to have something to say because you know why?
[34:12] Speaker 3: That's what gets people to click on it.
[34:14] Speaker 4: He's in the conversation too.
[34:15] Speaker 2: He's still in the conversation. He's still in the conversation.
[34:18] Speaker 3: For people to click on it, he's still a hot button.
[34:21] Speaker 3: I don't care for what he do, how, and they hold, listen,
[34:25] Speaker 3: to y'all point, most of the population, they are hoping
[34:30] Speaker 3: this man fails in this situation. They don't care about
[34:32] Speaker 3: his age. They are wishing and praying and hoping that
[34:36] Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets come back and finish this thing.
[34:38] Speaker 4: Unfortunately.
[34:39] Speaker 3: They are praying to whatever God, whoever they.
[34:46] Speaker 3: Paying tithes now. They ain't never went to church on Wednesdays.
[34:50] Speaker 4: They doing it all.
[34:52] Speaker 3: Jesus, Buddha. All of it, right? They going to see
[34:55] Speaker 3: the psychic and they trying to, hey, they looking for
[34:58] Speaker 3: a pair of bronze socks to bury in the yard
[35:01] Speaker 3: and all kind of shit. Voodoo, all kind of shit
[35:03] Speaker 3: going on right now. Yeah. Try to hope this man
[35:06] Speaker 3: don't do it so they can go on their shit
[35:08] Speaker 3: and be like, told you he wasn't the best. Like, look, look,
[35:11] Speaker 3: once again, that's what they want to do now. So it's,
[35:16] Speaker 3: But not looking at the totality of the situation.
[35:19] Speaker 5: But like you said, though, the best thing about it is, man,
[35:20] Speaker 5: you just want to be in the conversation, man. Like,
[35:22] Speaker 5: you just want to, when they mention who the greatest,
[35:25] Speaker 5: you just want to be in the conversation. Over 5,000
[35:27] Speaker 5: players in the NBA. Do you want to just be
[35:29] Speaker 5: in the conversation?
[35:30] Speaker 4: I mean. When it's blatant, like. I mean.
[35:32] Speaker 2: When it's blatant, though, Nick.
[35:33] Speaker 5: I mean, because somebody always going to feel a different way.
[35:35] Speaker 4: He even feel it. They mostly just shit on me. Like,
[35:38] Speaker 4: I never heard nobody shit on MJ. To this day,
[35:41] Speaker 4: you don't hear people talk shit on MJ.
[35:43] Speaker 3: Oh, no, LeBron people. No, LeBron fans do.
[35:44] Speaker 4: Yeah. They do only thing they say he didn't play
[35:46] Speaker 4: against nobody.
[35:47] Speaker 9: Well, yeah, that's it.
[35:48] Speaker 5: That's it on him That means I mean everybody Michael
[35:50] Speaker 5: Jordan played against.
[35:51] Speaker 3: LeBron every car.
[35:53] Speaker 4: He couldn't score like that Yeah, but he got all
[35:55] Speaker 4: the fucking points in his but you like that truth
[35:59] Speaker 4: is he hey Mike was a better score. Yeah He
[36:01] Speaker 4: went to the front nine times and shit.
[36:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to pick holes.
[36:04] Speaker 5: Yo, but somebody saying you ain't played against nobody, that
[36:06] Speaker 5: just means everybody in the 90s was trashed then.
[36:08] Speaker 4: They're going to pick holes whenever you give them opportunity to.
[36:12] Speaker 5: I mean, he played in an easy era then, if
[36:14] Speaker 5: that's the case.
[36:15] Speaker 9: That's bad, too.
[36:16] Speaker 5: If somebody say I'm supposed to be the greatest and
[36:18] Speaker 5: I ain't playing against nobody, damn.
[36:19] Speaker 3: Well, not his fault.
[36:20] Speaker 1: I mean, I think testament, though, to Jordan's greatness. The
[36:22] Speaker 1: league was going through an expansion.
[36:24] Speaker 3: At that time. And that man was better than everybody.
[36:27] Speaker 3: Let's not act like he wasn't. Like fucking better than everybody.
[36:32] Speaker 1: League was watered down though, King.
[36:34] Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
[36:35] Speaker 1: But that's a part of the growth and business side
[36:37] Speaker 1: of it.
[36:37] Speaker 3: And I'm still, and I still, like it wasn't like
[36:39] Speaker 3: I was just playing okay and everybody else was right
[36:42] Speaker 3: here and I was just playing here. No, okay, y'all
[36:45] Speaker 3: can say he was here. That motherfucker was, it was
[36:47] Speaker 3: head and shoulders better than everybody else then, right?
[36:50] Speaker 2: So that's, that's just what it is for people, right?
[36:53] Speaker 3: The LeBron noise is not going to go away no
[36:56] Speaker 3: time soon.
[36:57] Speaker 4: Head and shoulders.
[36:58] Speaker 9: Head and shoulders way back.
[37:01] Speaker 3: That's what everybody is saying. He's saying the league was
[37:03] Speaker 3: watered down. Those are your size words, right? You're adding
[37:06] Speaker 3: six expansion teams. He's saying the league was watered down.
[37:08] Speaker 3: I'm just saying. If it was, right? If it was
[37:13] Speaker 3: watered down. He was still busting ass. He was still out.
[37:15] Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was just averaging motherfucking 25 and
[37:19] Speaker 3: I'm just going to play okay.
[37:20] Speaker 4: No. But the drop-off when he left, the Bulls didn't
[37:24] Speaker 4: drop off that far. That's what I'm saying. You can't
[37:27] Speaker 4: be head and shoulders. The Bulls didn't drop off what far?
[37:29] Speaker 3: When he left? The Bulls was still.
[37:31] Speaker 4: The first year?
[37:32] Speaker 3: The first time or the second time?
[37:33] Speaker 4: No, no, first time, first time.
[37:34] Speaker 3: The first time, okay. They still had, he just left.
[37:38] Speaker 3: They didn't win it.
[37:40] Speaker 4: But still, the drop-off wasn't that far.
[37:42] Speaker 3: They didn't win it. It'd be head and shoulders. He
[37:44] Speaker 3: came back. He won three.
[37:45] Speaker 4: That means you got to be like LeBron when he
[37:48] Speaker 4: leave Cleveland.
[37:49] Speaker 1: It's over.
[37:50] Speaker 10: Like, the team don't exist.
[37:51] Speaker 3: No more down there. Until he come back. Until he
[37:53] Speaker 3: come back. Okay, that's the same thing that happened with
[37:55] Speaker 3: the Bulls. No, you can't be.
[37:57] Speaker 4: You leave. You still number one or number two. Second round,
[38:00] Speaker 4: come back, win three more. No, they went to the finals.
[38:02] Speaker 4: He still come from finals. And lost to New York, right?
[38:04] Speaker 3: Okay, then lost.
[38:05] Speaker 4: But that's... You're one step away from the finals.
[38:08] Speaker 3: So championship experience don't matter, Nick? So you're over championship
[38:11] Speaker 3: experience with Scottie Pippen. But when LeBron.
[38:14] Speaker 4: Left Cleveland, where was Cleveland at? That type of shit,
[38:18] Speaker 4: that's head and shoulders beyond everybody else. Head and shoulders
[38:22] Speaker 4: is not, I leave, we don't go to the finals,
[38:25] Speaker 4: we go to the Eastern Conference finals. LeBron leave, he's
[38:29] Speaker 4: got the number one pick in the draft. They had
[38:31] Speaker 4: a good team. They had a great coach.
[38:36] Speaker 10: They had a great coach and a great team.
[38:38] Speaker 3: They had a good list.
[38:39] Speaker 10: And LeBron never had a great coach.
[38:42] Speaker 3: He never had none of that. It's blatant. That ain't
[38:44] Speaker 3: got nothing to do with him.
[38:49] Speaker 10: That ain't got nothing to do with him.
[38:51] Speaker 3: It does, though. Phil Jackson was a great coach. And
[38:53] Speaker 3: won with all the great players. With Michael Jordan, they're
[38:56] Speaker 3: a great team. Without Michael Jordan, they're a good team.
[39:00] Speaker 1: They got to the Eastern Conference semis, lost to the
[39:02] Speaker 1: Knicks 4-3.
[39:02] Speaker 3: So that's my second round. They got to the second round.
[39:06] Speaker 3: You should get to the second round after winning three
[39:08] Speaker 3: straight championships and you lose one guy. You should be
[39:13] Speaker 3: able to get to the second round with the rest
[39:14] Speaker 3: of them. Scotty wasn't trash. The rest of the team
[39:19] Speaker 3: wasn't no trash and Phil was a hell of a coach.
[39:22] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He got them dudes to believe
[39:24] Speaker 3: that we could still win. That ain't got nothing to
[39:27] Speaker 3: do with I.
[39:30] Speaker 4: Mean, if you take Jokers.
[39:31] Speaker 3: But then he come back and win three straight. Take Jokers, yeah.
[39:33] Speaker 3: Then he come back and win three straight. So... Yeah.
[39:37] Speaker 4: Yeah. No, that was killer.
[39:38] Speaker 3: It was dominant.
[39:39] Speaker 4: It was the missing piece.
[39:41] Speaker 5: But I think what Nick is just saying, though, I
[39:44] Speaker 5: think Nick is saying, like, it's just blatantly now that
[39:47] Speaker 5: it should be blatantly that LeBron's the greatest ever.
[39:49] Speaker 3: To who, though?
[39:49] Speaker 2: That's my point.
[39:50] Speaker 3: To who?
[39:52] Speaker 4: I saw Michael Jordan play with my own two eyes.
[39:55] Speaker 4: That's like Colby's my favorite player.
[39:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Michael Jordan play. I saw Colby playing
[40:01] Speaker 3: against him. I saw LeBron play. They're all great in
[40:05] Speaker 3: their own right. I'm not taking anything from nobody. I'm
[40:09] Speaker 3: not saying that one, like, this guy, no. Just, I
[40:12] Speaker 3: can have my preference.
[40:14] Speaker 4: But that don't mean it's right, though. Yes, there's more. No,
[40:18] Speaker 4: because my preference is Kobe. I think Kobe's better. But realistically,
[40:21] Speaker 4: LeBron really is the GOAT. Like, you can't deny this shit.
[40:25] Speaker 4: That's the part I'm talking about.
[40:27] Speaker 3: It's all subjective. It is.
[40:29] Speaker 5: Are you saying like when the new rankings come out, whatever,
[40:33] Speaker 5: who's number one?
[40:33] Speaker 3: LeBron should be on this. He should be number one.
[40:36] Speaker 5: So when LeBron retires, he should be over money.
[40:39] Speaker 3: He should be number one.
[40:40] Speaker 4: Okay.
[40:41] Speaker 3: And the people that still watch Michael Jordan play still
[40:43] Speaker 3: got votes, right? And guess who they're going to vote for?
[40:46] Speaker 3: I know. And that's just what it is. You're not
[40:50] Speaker 3: going to change people's opinions. Like, I don't, you're just not.
[40:53] Speaker 4: No, no, no. But it ain't about changing your opinion.
[40:56] Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
[40:56] Speaker 9: It's about what's right.
[40:57] Speaker 5: I mean, our personal opinion is our personal opinion.
[41:01] Speaker 3: But I'm saying. That's what's right.
[41:02] Speaker 4: But my opinion is like, if I was doing, okay,
[41:04] Speaker 4: I'll just put Colby up before all of them.
[41:06] Speaker 10: But what is right, you got to put LeBron.
[41:08] Speaker 3: And that's your preference. And then you can't, you got
[41:10] Speaker 3: to put LeBron.
[41:11] Speaker 4: Then do your, if you want to do your not.
[41:12] Speaker 3: Some people say, Paul, you're going to ask the generation,
[41:14] Speaker 3: Paul George is most of the NBA's favorite fucking basketball player. No.
[41:19] Speaker 4: But that don't make him number one.
[41:21] Speaker 3: But that's their preference.
[41:22] Speaker 4: But that don't make him number one. That's what I'm saying.
[41:25] Speaker 3: The point I'm making is this, their preference. LeBron is
[41:29] Speaker 3: in the league with Paul George the whole time. Yes
[41:32] Speaker 3: or no? Was LeBron in the league the whole time
[41:34] Speaker 3: with Paul George? It's a preference. Yes? And you ask
[41:38] Speaker 3: this generation, their preference was Paul George.
[41:41] Speaker 9: They didn't say Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant.
[41:44] Speaker 4: But it, so you put, so somebody said, I'm going
[41:47] Speaker 4: to put Paul George over LeBron James.
[41:49] Speaker 3: That's their preference. You want to argue that? That's their preference.
[41:51] Speaker 10: It don't matter if it's their preference or not.
[41:53] Speaker 3: Would you argue that? No, no. Oh, you're right. Yes. Okay,
[41:57] Speaker 3: Stephen A., somebody please. That's your preference.
[41:59] Speaker 4: I can't wait to this shit. I want people to
[42:01] Speaker 4: do it.
[42:01] Speaker 10: Like, that's your choice. It don't matter about choice.
[42:04] Speaker 3: Yes, it is, Nick.
[42:05] Speaker 4: Oh, it's about being, what's right and what's your personal. No,
[42:08] Speaker 4: that's to you. What's right to you ain't right what's
[42:12] Speaker 4: right to me. So none of this is right. What's
[42:14] Speaker 4: right to you ain't right to me. Everything is about
[42:16] Speaker 4: feelings now. What you eat don't make nobody else shit.
[42:19] Speaker 3: It's about feelings though.
[42:20] Speaker 4: No. This is about feelings now.
[42:21] Speaker 3: No it's not.
[42:22] Speaker 1: It is.
[42:23] Speaker 4: No. If it's about your personal feelings. My personal preference
[42:27] Speaker 4: on what. Instead of facts and numbers and what this
[42:30] Speaker 4: man is doing. That mean what you say don't mean shit.
[42:36] Speaker 3: So with that said then, where does Kareem Abdul-Jabbar fit
[42:40] Speaker 3: into this conversation? My personal go. With that said, I'm
[42:44] Speaker 3: glad you said that. Where does Kareem Abdul-Jabbar fit into
[42:48] Speaker 3: this conversation then?
[42:49] Speaker 4: He should be top five.
[42:51] Speaker 3: Top five?
[42:52] Speaker 4: He should be number one.
[42:54] Speaker 3: He got five championships with six MVPs.
[42:57] Speaker 4: Six championships.
[42:58] Speaker 1: Six championships, I believe.
[42:59] Speaker 3: Six championships. My bad. Don't let me short you. Huh?
[43:03] Speaker 1: And he almost whooped Bruce Lee's ass.
[43:06] Speaker 3: He did. Almost.
[43:09] Speaker 2: 38,000 points scored.
[43:10] Speaker 4: Six trips, six MVPs.
[43:12] Speaker 3: 38,000 points scored.
[43:13] Speaker 2: Like, let's be, if we're having the conversation.
[43:16] Speaker 3: A lot of people got Kareem number one. If we're
[43:18] Speaker 3: having the conversation. A lot of people do. So, that's
[43:21] Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So, therefore, right? How can you, like,
[43:27] Speaker 3: LeBron is who he is. Kareem was who he was.
[43:30] Speaker 3: Mike was who he is, right? How many points LeBron got?
[43:31] Speaker 4: 40,000. Yeah, so.
[43:34] Speaker 1: I think 50 combined with.
[43:36] Speaker 4: Like Michael Jackson records are never going to be broken.
[43:39] Speaker 5: Okay, so why would you put LeBron James number one?
[43:43] Speaker 3: What he's doing.
[43:44] Speaker 4: Just because all the records, everything? He's down there now.
[43:48] Speaker 4: He's a GOAT in two positions, point guard and small forward.
[43:52] Speaker 4: If you want to throw him in power forward, you could.
[43:57] Speaker 4: Who's else doing that? Who else is top... Five in
[44:00] Speaker 4: one of these, another category.
[44:02] Speaker 3: Because nobody else has played 23 years, Nick. So there's
[44:06] Speaker 3: nobody else to judge it on, Nick.
[44:08] Speaker 2: Nobody else.
[44:09] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[44:10] Speaker 4: He played 23. That makes him the GOAT, then, right there.
[44:13] Speaker 4: Nobody else does. Oh, no, that doesn't mean that. How
[44:17] Speaker 4: many assists LeBron got? Kareem got that many assists?
[44:20] Speaker 3: No, Kareem does not have as many. He wasn't a passer.
[44:23] Speaker 4: He's all around everything he do.
[44:26] Speaker 3: A player that is the system and a player that
[44:29] Speaker 3: does score. He was a five man that scored 38,000
[44:32] Speaker 3: points with one move. That's what I'm saying.
[44:35] Speaker 2: Scored 38,000 points with one move.
[44:38] Speaker 1: Also ate bean pies.
[44:41] Speaker 2: The fucking dude right here.
[44:44] Speaker 4: Where's LeBron on the all-assist list?
[44:47] Speaker 5: I feel like LeBron took the harder road to get
[44:50] Speaker 5: his championships.
[44:51] Speaker 2: Say it again.
[44:52] Speaker 5: I think he took the harder road to get his chance.
[44:54] Speaker 3: Who that?
[44:54] Speaker 4: LeBron.
[44:56] Speaker 1: The harder road?
[44:57] Speaker 4: The harder road. Who?
[44:58] Speaker 3: LeBron James. So going to Miami with Dwayne Wade and.
[45:02] Speaker 2: Chris Bosh was the harder road?
[45:04] Speaker 3: Still hard, yeah.
[45:04] Speaker 5: You got to get it done.
[45:05] Speaker 3: Are you fucking serious?
[45:07] Speaker 4: We still got to get it done. Huh?
[45:09] Speaker 9: We still got to get it done.
[45:11] Speaker 3: That's when the critique started.
[45:13] Speaker 2: That's when the criticism started.
[45:14] Speaker 9: He only got two.
[45:15] Speaker 3: But that's when the criticism started. He lost twice.
[45:19] Speaker 2: But that's when the criticism started.
[45:21] Speaker 1: Right?
[45:22] Speaker 2: When he went to Miami.
[45:23] Speaker 3: Right. So the criticism, right? Okay. All the hate and
[45:26] Speaker 3: the bullshit started with the I'm going to South Beach shoot.
[45:30] Speaker 4: Right? Right. Okay.
[45:31] Speaker 3: So you expected the reason you went to go down
[45:34] Speaker 3: there and run the table.
[45:36] Speaker 9: And you don't.
[45:37] Speaker 3: Right, right. So we didn't. So, okay, so, boom.
[45:39] Speaker 9: That was another hard road. We lost twice. I got two.
[45:42] Speaker 5: Come back to Cleveland. Promise them we're going to win one.
[45:46] Speaker 5: We actually get one. Go to the finals again. Okay,
[45:49] Speaker 5: the Cleveland one? I think his road, just his road.
[45:53] Speaker 4: I mean, the first time in Cleveland.
[45:54] Speaker 9: Shit, we got swept by Tim Duncan.
[45:56] Speaker 3: Right? Boom, boom.
[45:57] Speaker 9: Then I had to get through the big three.
[46:00] Speaker 3: With Boston.
[46:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
[46:01] Speaker 3: Couldn't do that.
[46:01] Speaker 5: So, okay, I go do the same thing they did.
[46:04] Speaker 9: Okay, but then I get criticized for it, right?
[46:06] Speaker 3: But I'm saying... Criticism started then, right? But you expect...
[46:10] Speaker 3: You go doing Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami.
[46:14] Speaker 3: Y'all could put this team together to fit.
[46:18] Speaker 4: We lost the first year. But the team is the
[46:20] Speaker 4: same as the Chicago Super Team.
[46:22] Speaker 3: Right, right.
[46:23] Speaker 4: But the Chicago Bulls have a super team, so you don't.
[46:25] Speaker 3: Get a pass.
[46:26] Speaker 5: No, no, you don't.
[46:27] Speaker 9: But I'm saying, I think his road was tougher.
[46:29] Speaker 3: No, he tried to make that road easier.
[46:32] Speaker 4: Nah, you can't say that.
[46:34] Speaker 3: Going to Miami, him staying in Cleveland, what's the hard road? Listen,
[46:38] Speaker 3: hear me out. Staying in Cleveland is the hard road
[46:41] Speaker 3: that you speak of.
[46:42] Speaker 4: No.
[46:42] Speaker 5: Go stand in Cleveland. He don't even have a chance
[46:44] Speaker 5: to get there no more. Nobody had even hard.
[46:48] Speaker 3: Now Going back. I know how to put a team together. No,
[46:53] Speaker 3: I went down to Miami. I learned I watched I
[46:56] Speaker 3: observed on what championship Pedigree and what we need in
[47:00] Speaker 3: order to win. Yes, I take that same ingredients over
[47:03] Speaker 3: here to Cleveland. Okay implement it We get it done,
[47:09] Speaker 3: right people still are criticizing no matter.
[47:13] Speaker 2: What after the Miami thing.
[47:15] Speaker 3: Because now you can, you was expected to win more
[47:19] Speaker 3: than two in Miami.
[47:20] Speaker 4: Right, no, for sure.
[47:21] Speaker 3: That was an expectation by the masses. For sure, for sure.
[47:23] Speaker 3: You was expected to win more than two because y'all
[47:25] Speaker 3: put this super team together.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[47:28] Speaker 3: Y'all fell on your face. In most people's opinion. With winning, too.
[47:33] Speaker 3: For some people, it's not enough. And that's the Barks, right? Oh,
[47:38] Speaker 3: you went to the finals this many times, but you
[47:40] Speaker 3: only won this many. That's the crutch that people have
[47:43] Speaker 3: when they're talking about the difference and the debate and winning.
[47:47] Speaker 3: That's what people lean on. Eight straight finals. I agree.
[47:51] Speaker 3: It's tough to do.
[47:53] Speaker 9: Eight straight finals is crazy.
[47:56] Speaker 3: With no break, it's crazy. It is absolutely insane to.
[48:01] Speaker 2: Think about it.
[48:02] Speaker 9: That's why I say it was the hardest.
[48:03] Speaker 3: Because we know how hard it is to get to
[48:06] Speaker 3: the playoffs, right? It's hard to get to the playoffs.
[48:10] Speaker 3: To sustain that shit for eight straight seasons, I don't
[48:13] Speaker 3: care who on your roster is hard to do. But
[48:17] Speaker 3: in a lot of people's opinion, he tried to take
[48:19] Speaker 3: the easier route going to Miami and joining that. And
[48:23] Speaker 3: I'm saying that's when the criticism started. So no matter
[48:26] Speaker 3: anything after that winning or losing, unless he's sweeping everybody
[48:31] Speaker 3: and they just whooping ass and all that, that's the
[48:33] Speaker 3: only thing that's going to get people off his back.
[48:35] Speaker 4: But in that case, though. Even with the bubble. Oh,
[48:37] Speaker 4: he was in a bubble. Is that the same thing
[48:39] Speaker 4: as the Bulls? He got no pass for that. He got, like,
[48:43] Speaker 4: people criticized the championship. This man won a championship. And
[48:47] Speaker 4: people was like, it ain't this, man.
[48:50] Speaker 3: Look at how it was. It was watered down. He
[48:53] Speaker 3: was easy.
[48:54] Speaker 2: People, they didn't give this man no credit for winning that.
[48:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[48:57] Speaker 5: I mean, the only thing about his greatness is that,
[48:59] Speaker 5: the only thing to me is just.
[49:01] Speaker 3: Bro, everywhere I've been, I've won.
[49:03] Speaker 9: Any franchise. Like, any franchise I put a jersey on,
[49:05] Speaker 9: I've won.
[49:06] Speaker 4: Good.
[49:07] Speaker 5: And that's why I said, to me, it's just the hardest,
[49:09] Speaker 5: and it was the most challenging one. Because you actually,
[49:11] Speaker 5: you know, Tim Duncan, one team. You know, Michael Jordan,
[49:14] Speaker 5: one team. Kobe Bryant, one team.
[49:16] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[49:17] Speaker 5: But to go to different coaches and different organizations and
[49:19] Speaker 5: go there and.
[49:20] Speaker 9: Being like, yo, it's my shit now. We're going to
[49:22] Speaker 9: win because I'm here.
[49:23] Speaker 3: That's crazy. And then for the masses, that's another dink, right?
[49:29] Speaker 3: Because them other dudes, and they, quote, unquote, didn't jump ship.
[49:33] Speaker 3: When shit got bad, they didn't jump ship. But they
[49:36] Speaker 3: had the foundation, though.
[49:37] Speaker 2: But I get, but still, people don't see the big picture.
[49:42] Speaker 3: People not gonna look at the totality of the picture.
[49:45] Speaker 3: They're gonna go with it. They narrative right to make
[49:47] Speaker 3: him look bad Yeah, they're not gonna look at Cleveland
[49:50] Speaker 3: ain't never worn shit before they tried this man number
[49:52] Speaker 3: one for a reason Like they had one she's saying
[49:55] Speaker 3: she's I went to the Nets Nets had one shit
[49:59] Speaker 3: Saying you expect to do certain things he expect to
[50:01] Speaker 3: do certain things he did those things But people like
[50:04] Speaker 3: oh he shit he's gonna get can get there, but
[50:06] Speaker 3: he jumped ship he went there So that's just you
[50:09] Speaker 3: give people glimpse of what it and they gonna take
[50:12] Speaker 3: that small Snip it, and they ain't going.
[50:16] Speaker 4: To look at the big picture.
[50:18] Speaker 5: But is that fair to have that narrative in basketball
[50:21] Speaker 5: because the idea is just to get it done, right?
[50:23] Speaker 5: When you get to the NBA, your idea is to
[50:25] Speaker 5: win championships.
[50:26] Speaker 9: We got it by any means.
[50:27] Speaker 5: So why does this have to be a sting narrative
[50:31] Speaker 5: on this guy?
[50:31] Speaker 4: Is it because he's in a conversation with Jordan?
[50:33] Speaker 5: So we got to use this narrative to knock it off.
[50:37] Speaker 4: That's weak, though.
[50:38] Speaker 3: But that's what people are going to do, though, Nick, unfortunately.
[50:43] Speaker 11: I've had enough of this enough of these fucking conversations
[50:48] Speaker 11: and just sit back in a room and barbershop just
[50:50] Speaker 11: sit back and listen right and then ultimately somebody's going
[50:54] Speaker 11: to ask me my opinion and what I have to
[50:56] Speaker 11: say in every environment I just sit back and just
[50:58] Speaker 11: listen to people argue day in and day out about
[51:01] Speaker 11: it just And the laugh, because.
[51:06] Speaker 3: How mad, listen, dawg, people really get upset and mad.
[51:11] Speaker 5: And it be people who don't even be on the
[51:12] Speaker 5: same court.
[51:13] Speaker 3: I be like, damn.
[51:14] Speaker 5: But it be people who don't even be on the
[51:15] Speaker 5: same court with these niggas.
[51:16] Speaker 9: It's like, yo, how are we wrong?
[51:18] Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand.
[51:19] Speaker 4: We see them every day. Yeah, they do question your guys' opinion.
[51:22] Speaker 3: Like, dude, I.
[51:23] Speaker 4: Have been on the court with them.
[51:24] Speaker 3: Like, I've seen them. I've seen them on this very couch. Like,
[51:26] Speaker 3: it's amazing that they're going to come up here and
[51:28] Speaker 3: argue me about shit that I was on the team for.
[51:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[51:31] Speaker 3: Right? Like, I've said that shit plenty of times. Like, I've,
[51:35] Speaker 3: you know, y'all do know I was there, right?
[51:40] Speaker 1: You were in the building. But this dude may can
[51:42] Speaker 1: go on forever. It will go on forever. It is
[51:44] Speaker 1: a thrill, but it happens. So, I'll make this point
[51:46] Speaker 1: and we can move on. The old, unfortunately, like we
[51:49] Speaker 1: don't live forever, right? And the Michael Jordan fans are fading.
[51:56] Speaker 1: We're transitioning, right? A lot of Michael Jordan old people
[51:59] Speaker 1: are transitioning.
[52:00] Speaker 2: They're not here anymore, right? But LeBron fans are younger,
[52:02] Speaker 2: and so it's going to continue.
[52:05] Speaker 3: As long as Michael Jordan reign has been, LeBron's reign
[52:07] Speaker 3: will be that. I don't know if nobody will surpass
[52:10] Speaker 3: that or come close to ever being the next in
[52:13] Speaker 3: the conversation. Don't know who that will be or if
[52:16] Speaker 3: it will happen.
[52:18] Speaker 1: All right, so we've got to start hating on Wimby now.
[52:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's Wimby's turn.
[52:22] Speaker 3: I was going to say maybe it's Wimby. He already did.
[52:24] Speaker 3: What did you call him, school?
[52:26] Speaker 4: Lunchtime Hooper. What?
[52:29] Speaker 1: Lunchtime Hooper when he first came in. We'll come with
[52:31] Speaker 1: some narratives soon. All right, but let's keep this thing
[52:33] Speaker 1: moving back to playoff basketball. Shift over to the East
[52:36] Speaker 1: where the top seeded Pistons were looking to avoid elimination
[52:39] Speaker 1: Wednesday at their crib in Game 5 against the Magic.
[52:42] Speaker 1: Magic are the 6th-8th seed to have a 3-1 lead
[52:44] Speaker 1: since the first round expanded to seven games in 2003.
[52:47] Speaker 1: Four of the previous five went on to win the series.
[52:50] Speaker 1: The only team that didn't was the 2003 Magic under
[52:53] Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, who had a 3-1 lead over the Pistons
[52:56] Speaker 1: but went on to lose that series. So this game
[52:59] Speaker 1: five turned into a duel between former number one picks
[53:02] Speaker 1: Paolo Bancaro and Cade Cunningham, with Cade coming through with
[53:05] Speaker 1: a historic night to keep his season alive. Let's check
[53:07] Speaker 1: out the highlights if we can, please. So Pistons got
[53:12] Speaker 1: the wire-to-wire win as the Magic did their best to
[53:14] Speaker 1: keep things interesting. Detroit led by as much as 18
[53:17] Speaker 1: in the second quarter before an Orlando run cut the
[53:20] Speaker 1: deficit to six at the break. Cade Cunningham, Paolo Bancaro
[53:25] Speaker 1: both tried to will their team to victory with a
[53:27] Speaker 1: pair of dominant performances. Cade put up a playoff career
[53:30] Speaker 1: high in Pistons. Playoff record 45 points along with five
[53:35] Speaker 1: assists and four rebounds. 13 for 23 from the field
[53:38] Speaker 1: with five three-pointers, which is also a playoff career high
[53:40] Speaker 1: for Cade. And a perfect 14 for 14 at the line.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Paolo matched Cade with a 45 piece of his own,
[53:47] Speaker 1: along with nine boards and seven assists, taking on a
[53:51] Speaker 1: heavier scoring load with Franz Wagner sidelined with a right
[53:54] Speaker 1: calf strain. Cade and Paolo are just the second pair
[53:57] Speaker 1: of opponents in NBA playoff history to each drop 45
[54:00] Speaker 1: points in the same game, joining Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray,
[54:03] Speaker 1: who did it in the bubble in 2020, the bubble
[54:06] Speaker 1: where the Lakers won the championship, for those who do
[54:08] Speaker 1: not remember. Tobias Harris added 23 points and eight rebounds
[54:11] Speaker 1: for the Pistons, while Jalen Duren had 12 and nine boards,
[54:15] Speaker 1: Pistons led by as much as 15 in the fourth
[54:17] Speaker 1: quarter before the Magic tried to rally one last time.
[54:21] Speaker 1: Paolo Bancaro trying to get it done as best he could.
[54:25] Speaker 1: So a little over a minute remaining. Paolo hit a
[54:30] Speaker 1: big three to cut the deficit. Two-three, but K.A. Cunningham responded.
[54:34] Speaker 1: 15-foot fadeaway to seal the win. With the loss of
[54:41] Speaker 1: Magic are now 0 and 10 on the road in
[54:43] Speaker 1: game fives in their playoff history. After the game, K
[54:47] Speaker 1: was asked what he loves about playing in big moments
[54:50] Speaker 1: and offered this response.
[54:52] Speaker 4: Just opportunity.
[54:53] Speaker 7: Not everybody's, you know, blessed with those type of opportunities
[54:58] Speaker 7: to have pressure and to, you know, have things on
[55:03] Speaker 7: the line like that. You know, a lot of times
[55:07] Speaker 7: I feel undeserving of, like, how great of moments I
[55:10] Speaker 7: get to be a part of. So I'm just thankful
[55:11] Speaker 7: for it. Just try to, you know, make the most
[55:14] Speaker 7: out of it. Yeah, just a never-die mentality. You know,
[55:19] Speaker 7: just wanted to have a controlled aggression all night. And, yeah,
[55:24] Speaker 7: make sure they felt me. You know, I don't want
[55:26] Speaker 7: this season to end right now. So I got to
[55:29] Speaker 7: put it all on the line.
[55:31] Speaker 1: That he did. Pistons live to see another day. Now
[55:34] Speaker 1: heading back to Orlando for game six.
[55:36] Speaker 4: I have 45.
[55:36] Speaker 1: Swaggy, we'll start with you. Biggest takeaways from the Pistons
[55:39] Speaker 1: game five win over the Magic.
[55:43] Speaker 4: Hey, man. They don't want to go home. That's all
[55:46] Speaker 4: this has been. People don't want to go home. And
[55:49] Speaker 4: K took it on as a leader.
[55:51] Speaker 3: I like that.
[55:51] Speaker 4: I like his answer, too. Man, a lot of people
[55:56] Speaker 4: ain't blessed or fortunate to be in situations like that.
[55:59] Speaker 4: I like the way he handled it. But 45 in
[56:02] Speaker 4: an elimination game? It says a lot about who you are, man.
[56:07] Speaker 4: And the Pistons is tough. You just got to keep
[56:09] Speaker 4: it going. And for Orlando, they fought to the end, too.
[56:15] Speaker 4: It ain't no cakewalk. Orlando was one of them teams
[56:17] Speaker 4: that was supposed to be one of them, really one
[56:20] Speaker 4: of them teams.
[56:21] Speaker 1: Not your traditional eighth seed in the conference, we'll say that.
[56:24] Speaker 1: Pablo had 45, too. Pablo P.
[56:27] Speaker 4: Carroll. Yeah, K is going to have to do a lot, though.
[56:32] Speaker 4: That's the only thing. I think this offseason they're going
[56:36] Speaker 4: to have to go find a number two or at
[56:42] Speaker 4: least a guy that could put the ball in the hole.
[56:48] Speaker 4: But this year, this playoffs, they're going to have to
[56:50] Speaker 4: do a lot. It's going to have to be 40
[56:52] Speaker 4: down there every night for them to have a chance,
[56:54] Speaker 4: I feel like.
[56:56] Speaker 1: Which is crazy, but they put themselves in this position
[56:58] Speaker 1: by not being able to get it done earlier in
[57:00] Speaker 1: the series. Magic playing very well. Now go back to Orlando. Orlando,
[57:04] Speaker 1: I believe, 8-1 on their home court in postseason games
[57:08] Speaker 1: under Jamal Mosley. That includes the play-in. But, Mr. B,
[57:11] Speaker 1: biggest takeaways from the Pistons getting the Game 5 win,
[57:13] Speaker 1: keeping their series alive?
[57:15] Speaker 9: I mean, just K, man, has to do so much.
[57:18] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Tobias Harris, he gave him 23,
[57:21] Speaker 5: but they're all starting during. He's not really doing anything defensively.
[57:26] Speaker 5: You know, good win at home. But I still see the–
[57:30] Speaker 5: I can't count the Magic out. I mean, they got scores.
[57:35] Speaker 5: You know, Apollo, I think he went 5-12 from the
[57:37] Speaker 5: free throw line. So if he makes his free throws,
[57:39] Speaker 5: you know, I think that kind.
[57:40] Speaker 4: Of hurt them.
[57:41] Speaker 5: But, I mean, man, they just don't have a lot
[57:43] Speaker 5: of scoring over there, man. He has to do a
[57:44] Speaker 5: whole lot. But it's going to be interesting. You know,
[57:48] Speaker 5: they go back to Orlando. Orlando has a chance. You
[57:50] Speaker 5: said they're 8-1 at home. Under Jamal Mosley in postseason games.
[57:54] Speaker 5: You know, so, you know, they still have a lot
[57:55] Speaker 5: of confidence. I mean, this is an Orlando team that
[57:57] Speaker 5: we were high on, that was looking like, you know,
[58:00] Speaker 5: they were trying to fire their coach and things were
[58:02] Speaker 5: looking bad and then they just turned it around. So,
[58:06] Speaker 5: you know, it's a good opportunity right now for Orlando. But,
[58:10] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Detroit's been number one. Their defense
[58:12] Speaker 5: has always been good all year. So we just got
[58:15] Speaker 5: to wait and see what happens. This is very interesting.
[58:17] Speaker 5: Sears right here.
[58:18] Speaker 1: Magic 16 for 30 from the free throw line in
[58:20] Speaker 1: that game, 53%.
[58:23] Speaker 5: So that's why it's like, you know, they make they free.
[58:26] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[58:28] Speaker 1: Well, Kane, let's shift over to your biggest takeaways from
[58:30] Speaker 1: that Pistons game five win. Kay Cunningham, Texas native, putting
[58:34] Speaker 1: the team on his back, 45-piece, most in Pistons' free position.
[58:37] Speaker 2: That was native shit. It ain't just from Texas. It's
[58:40] Speaker 2: from Arlington.
[58:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, them two young studs, man, going out and
[58:45] Speaker 3: putting their team on their back, right? Seasons on the
[58:49] Speaker 3: line both ways. You know, Orlando trying to close Detroit
[58:53] Speaker 3: out and Detroit trying not to let their season in.
[58:56] Speaker 3: And those two guys showed why they were picked number
[59:01] Speaker 3: one by their respective franchises. It was an excellent game
[59:05] Speaker 3: to watch. If you're a basketball fan, it was a
[59:08] Speaker 3: good bump. I expect the same in game six back in.
[59:15] Speaker 2: Orlando.
[59:16] Speaker 3: It's going to be a good game. I hope the
[59:19] Speaker 3: Magic fans show up. It's going to be a rowdy environment.
[59:22] Speaker 3: I hope the Pistons players are ready for that environment. Yeah, no,
[59:28] Speaker 3: they're going to fight, man. They are the number one
[59:33] Speaker 3: seed for a reason. They learned how to win during
[59:36] Speaker 3: the regular season, tough games, tough situations, a lot of
[59:39] Speaker 3: different situations in order to be the number one seed
[59:42] Speaker 3: in the conference. So now it's time to put those
[59:47] Speaker 3: experiences all together and have the season on the line
[59:52] Speaker 3: once again. And Orlando's going to do everything in their
[59:56] Speaker 3: power to end it.
[59:58] Speaker 2: Great performance.
[1:00:00] Speaker 3: It's going to need to be another tight performance from Cade.
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: And to Brandon's point, man, I said the other day,
[1:00:09] Speaker 3: he has to do entirely too much right now, right?
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: But when he got it going, he got it going.
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: Just on the days that it's not going as well, right?
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: You're not getting to the line as much. Then what?
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: Is what the problem, the piss is running to. But
[1:00:28] Speaker 3: Defense travels, energy travels, and yeah, let's see. They were
[1:00:35] Speaker 3: in a similar spot last year, playing in the garden,
[1:00:38] Speaker 3: around the environment, younger team. So let's see how those
[1:00:43] Speaker 3: experience helped them in this situation again. Both those teams
[1:00:46] Speaker 3: thrive off physicality.
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: When we look at K, Pistons franchise player, seems like
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: the next in line in terms of the Nike guys,
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: got his own signature shoe coming out soon. Would have
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: made All-NBA if he would have qualified. came a couple
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: games short. But an average of 33 points, seven assists,
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: six rebounds in this series, but also nearly seven turnovers
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: per game. But, yeah, Gussie performance like this back.
[1:01:12] Speaker 3: Against the wall. I don't believe he qualified. He didn't
[1:01:17] Speaker 3: get the exemption? He got the exemption. Because it was
[1:01:21] Speaker 3: 64 games and he got the exemption. But yeah, most
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: of the guys who got the ball in their hand, man,
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: a lot now in this playoffs, they've been high turnovers.
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: It's been high turnovers. James Harden, a lot of turnovers. Braun,
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: a lot of turnovers. K, a lot of turnovers. Guys
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: who are dominant ball handlers and decision makers for their team. Nicola,
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: a lot of turnovers. It's just unfortunate that that comes
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: with it. If you lead your team in assists, you
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: are more than likely going to lead that team in
[1:01:56] Speaker 3: turnovers as well. That's just what it's been.
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: I'm glad we're seeing Pablo like this. He could change
[1:02:05] Speaker 4: the narrative of his name in this series. What he's doing,
[1:02:11] Speaker 4: I think this is what we've been wanting to see
[1:02:13] Speaker 4: all season. It's a matchup nightmare for that fourth spot.
[1:02:20] Speaker 4: Three spot stuff. What's been the narrative on him?
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: Nickname was PB, no J. Like, he never really. He's
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: supposed to be an all-star. He's an all-star this year, right?
[1:02:34] Speaker 4: How many years has he been here? This is third
[1:02:35] Speaker 4: or fourth year. Third or fourth year? But he was
[1:02:37] Speaker 4: supposed to be. I feel like he was supposed to
[1:02:39] Speaker 4: be on K level now. Because he'd been to the
[1:02:42] Speaker 4: playoffs back-to-back years, too. Lost first round, I think.
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: Average 20, 22. It was an all-star two years ago.
[1:02:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: Only played 46 games last season.
[1:02:51] Speaker 4: And this year, I feel like they just like, I
[1:02:54] Speaker 4: don't know, Houston. I mean, Orlando wasn't supposed to be eight.
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: No, they weren't healthy at all, once again.
[1:03:04] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: Best two players missing time, dog, you. Now you don't
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: know what your identity is. That's what I'm saying.
[1:03:11] Speaker 5: Well, I think the Pistons' biggest thing, this, whatever happens
[1:03:14] Speaker 5: in this series, where they move on, I mean, They
[1:03:17] Speaker 5: still need to go get a scorer next year. They
[1:03:19] Speaker 5: need a for sure scorer who can put the ball
[1:03:22] Speaker 5: in the rim.
[1:03:23] Speaker 4: What type? Do you want to take that much? He's
[1:03:26] Speaker 4: still going to be like Luka with the ball, though.
[1:03:29] Speaker 5: Listen, I mean, I don't know how they can work
[1:03:31] Speaker 5: it out, but you need a Devin Booker type guy.
[1:03:34] Speaker 5: You need somebody that can score, that can put that
[1:03:37] Speaker 5: thing in the hoop.
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: Who can be a catch and shoot. You can go
[1:03:41] Speaker 3: get a bucket with a one-on-one situation. But he's an
[1:03:44] Speaker 3: excellent catch and shoot guy. And I think Devin Booker
[1:03:46] Speaker 3: fits that.
[1:03:46] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:03:47] Speaker 9: And K passes the ball.
[1:03:49] Speaker 3: So it's not like.
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: It's a system.
[1:03:50] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
[1:03:51] Speaker 5: It's not like he's just coming down like he plays.
[1:03:53] Speaker 9: So it's like, yo, he's looking.
[1:03:55] Speaker 5: So it's like a guy like.
[1:03:57] Speaker 3: I don't think K needs to average 25. I think
[1:03:59] Speaker 3: he only averaging what he's averaging because they need him to.
[1:04:01] Speaker 8: Right?
[1:04:03] Speaker 3: But do you. I think it's a system.
[1:04:05] Speaker 4: Say it again. Do we want to become a number two?
[1:04:09] Speaker 5: These are two guys. These are two guys. I feel like.
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: Who would be a number two?
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: Booker, I feel like.
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: There's still no, like.
[1:04:16] Speaker 5: These are two guys who are going to be playing
[1:04:17] Speaker 5: on the USA team.
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a different role.
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: Skills that still need it.
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: Like, in order to win, in order to be successful,
[1:04:25] Speaker 3: we still need Devin Booker to be the best Devin Booker.
[1:04:28] Speaker 3: We don't need you to take a back seat. Like,
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: if this situation, like, we don't need you to take
[1:04:32] Speaker 3: a back seat.
[1:04:33] Speaker 9: But somebody at that caliber.
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: We need you, like, just like Bron and D-Wade. Like, no,
[1:04:36] Speaker 3: we still need you to be fucking D-Wade. Like, we
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: don't win if you ain't D-Wade. They don't win nothing
[1:04:42] Speaker 3: if Devin Booker show up and he want to take
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: the armor number two now. Like, no, we need you
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: to come out mellow and AI and average fucking 27.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: Like, I'm saying, like, ain't no.
[1:04:54] Speaker 4: It's hard to find plays and what if they don't
[1:04:57] Speaker 4: make a trade?
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: But it's okay.
[1:04:59] Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I came out today like a
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: AR not trading Devin Booker, but we're like a AR 15.
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: Your boss, your ball stopper.
[1:05:10] Speaker 4: I think they need that too, though.
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:05:13] Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, see with D book, he don't fit.
[1:05:16] Speaker 3: They kind of.
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know.
[1:05:19] Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, I mean, one.
[1:05:21] Speaker 5: Thing they're not going to lose is their defense. So
[1:05:23] Speaker 5: that's why I said, like, you just need to find
[1:05:25] Speaker 5: a guy who just.
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: Comes out there and scores.
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: He tries defensively.
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: He tries defensively.
[1:05:30] Speaker 4: How many deep books?
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
[1:05:34] Speaker 4: How many deep books?
[1:05:36] Speaker 9: Like a Zach Levine.
[1:05:37] Speaker 5: A dude who can put the ball in the basket.
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:05:41] Speaker 4: Athletic and conservative.
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: Well, he ain't got to be number one or number two.
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: Listen, you don't. Hey, absolutely.
[1:05:45] Speaker 5: I'm trying to find a guy like that.
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: Zach Levine. Zach Levine, absolutely. To fit that situation. I'm
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: saying in Detroit. Ball stoppers.
[1:05:56] Speaker 10: No, they are.
[1:05:58] Speaker 3: Catching shoe guy. Catching shoe guy.
[1:06:02] Speaker 2: Zach better catch a shoe guy.
[1:06:05] Speaker 9: But something, we need to find a score.
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Zach Levine.
[1:06:07] Speaker 4: They got to find a score though. Yeah.
[1:06:09] Speaker 5: But like somebody that can put that thing in the
[1:06:10] Speaker 5: hoop and that can take the pressure off K. Because
[1:06:12] Speaker 5: you could, I mean, and then I don't know if
[1:06:14] Speaker 5: you could keep Tobias, but Tobias is.
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: 15 to 20.
[1:06:16] Speaker 4: I would stick to the same team before I do that.
[1:06:20] Speaker 3: Of course, get your bucket. I'm just saying somebody who
[1:06:26] Speaker 3: you know go get you a bucket.
[1:06:28] Speaker 9: You know for a fact.
[1:06:31] Speaker 3: That DeMar DeRozan, what he is going to bring to
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: the table is that.
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: I don't know for that team.
[1:06:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, bro. Somebody of that nature. Zach Levine, DeMar.
[1:06:44] Speaker 4: Wait, but this sounds crazy. Y'all said no to AR
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: and y'all said Zach Levine and DeMar DeRozan.
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: I'll pick those guys over him. I'm picking DeMar and
[1:06:54] Speaker 3: Zach over A.R. Right now in their career?
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: Fuck yeah.
[1:07:00] Speaker 4: A.R.
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: Takes some god-awful fucking shots, bro.
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: And Zach Levine don't either. Not like that. Not like that.
[1:07:07] Speaker 3: One-legged shit. He's been on some bad teams. Had to.
[1:07:11] Speaker 3: The Detroit team, I mean, Chicago team, Sacramento wasn't the
[1:07:13] Speaker 3: best team.
[1:07:14] Speaker 9: Who else is out there?
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: There's some people out there that are going to be afraid.
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: He's got it. Trust me, somebody that's going to pop up,
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: somebody that's playing well, you don't expect.
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: To be like, oh, shit.
[1:07:23] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:07:24] Speaker 5: Yeah, but they definitely need.
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, they need a score. They need some help. Yeah,
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: because Jalen Dern, like, it's a regular season thing.
[1:07:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I don't know what he on.
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: Oh, you know what he on, but.
[1:07:36] Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
[1:07:38] Speaker 4: He ain't on what they on.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: Not at all.
[1:07:40] Speaker 4: So if he even can't catch lives now and you
[1:07:44] Speaker 4: put DeMar at that elbow packing the paint for mid-range.
[1:07:48] Speaker 4: He ain't got no moves. He can't now. That's what
[1:07:51] Speaker 4: I'm saying. Because the paint is, you can't. He just
[1:07:53] Speaker 4: ain't got no moves. So it's going to make it
[1:07:54] Speaker 4: more crowded when you got DeMar in that mid-range area.
[1:07:58] Speaker 9: Yeah, Cam Thomas. Somebody that can score.
[1:08:01] Speaker 3: Come off the bench. I'm just saying.
[1:08:02] Speaker 4: You can get him for cheap.
[1:08:03] Speaker 5: Just come off the bench. Somebody that can score. Need
[1:08:07] Speaker 5: a bucket. Like, I mean, you can get Cam Thomas
[1:08:12] Speaker 5: for the low right now. Just come off the bench.
[1:08:14] Speaker 5: Because their bench scoring is.
[1:08:17] Speaker 4: Okay. You do need scoring.
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: I'm just... You do need that sixth man, too.
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: You got to worry about stars before you get to
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: a six-man.
[1:08:29] Speaker 4: That's all they need.
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: You got to worry about the first five.
[1:08:34] Speaker 4: I feel like if they had.
[1:08:35] Speaker 5: I don't even know if Chris Middleton would have been
[1:08:40] Speaker 5: good for them, too.
[1:08:40] Speaker 4: But I don't think he'll go back there.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: It's Tobias.
[1:08:44] Speaker 4: What was their six-man last year?
[1:08:45] Speaker 2: Who's six-man?
[1:08:46] Speaker 4: Detroit.
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: They had a six-man of the year.
[1:08:50] Speaker 4: Didn't he go home? Oh, yeah, that shit. I'm about
[1:08:53] Speaker 4: to say, what happened to him?
[1:08:55] Speaker 5: Wait, J-90?
[1:08:55] Speaker 4: It was Mike Beasley. Malik Beasley.
[1:09:00] Speaker 3: Malik Beasley. Was he this man of the year?
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: I don't think so. He was, I promise you. He
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: didn't win an award.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: He probably was on the list. He didn't win it.
[1:09:12] Speaker 4: I swear I thought he won it.
[1:09:13] Speaker 3: How much did he average?
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: 17 or something like that?
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you.
[1:09:17] Speaker 4: He was balling, though. That's what I'm saying.
[1:09:20] Speaker 3: Oh, no. But, yeah, they would need some help. But, no, Detroit,
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: they still got life.
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:09:26] Speaker 3: No, they still got life. They got life, but hey.
[1:09:28] Speaker 9: I'm just saying, moving forward, though, they're going to.
[1:09:30] Speaker 1: Peyton needs some help. He finished second.
[1:09:32] Speaker 4: Oh, I was about to say, I knew for a second.
[1:09:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, definitely some help moving forward.
[1:09:39] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[1:09:39] Speaker 2: Don't do too much.
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: So, I feel like Magic, obviously, 3-2 lead going back home.
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: Magic got a nice team.
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: Great place.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:09:50] Speaker 4: In a very good spot. Magic going three home. My
[1:09:52] Speaker 4: man John Hammond. All right.
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: Not expected to be.
[1:09:54] Speaker 4: All right. So is the coach going to be able
[1:09:57] Speaker 4: to stay if they win?
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: So they report Jamal Moseley regardless of what happened in
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: this moment.
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: I remember that. That's what I'm saying.
[1:10:03] Speaker 4: So if Magic's win, is he staying?
[1:10:06] Speaker 2: He's up his chances, I would hope.
[1:10:10] Speaker 4: I mean, listen, if it ain't there, it's going to
[1:10:13] Speaker 4: be somewhere.
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: Somewhere.
[1:10:14] Speaker 5: Because, listen, if he get out this first round and
[1:10:16] Speaker 5: then they play.
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: And they fire him?
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's what I'm saying. It looks crazy.
[1:10:21] Speaker 5: You went from the play-in game, the eighth, to beating
[1:10:24] Speaker 5: the first seed, and now I got to go?
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: That looks crazy.
[1:10:27] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: That looks crazy. Won't have a job for long. It'll
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: be highly sought out. I just don't know how you
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: can make those. You can say those things, but you
[1:10:39] Speaker 3: still ain't played the games yet. Unless it's really personal.
[1:10:43] Speaker 3: Unless it's something personal.
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: I saw the Knicks make an Eastern Conference Finals last year,
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: and Tibbs got the boot, so I'm just saying. If
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: they have something on their mind, it's not anything short
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: of a chance.
[1:10:54] Speaker 9: I mean, but they would see, what, Toronto or Cleveland next?
[1:10:57] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he could be seeing this.
[1:11:00] Speaker 3: Same situation.
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: I'm about to say, he's going to be at the
[1:11:05] Speaker 5: Eastern Conference finals.
[1:11:06] Speaker 3: Same situation, right? One of them teams.
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: Well, speaking of not trusting those teams, let's talk about
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: those teams that we don't trust a little bit. So
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: Cavs took the first two games at their crib against
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: the Raptors, appeared to be headed towards the sweep. Toronto
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: responded with two big wins on their home floor. Got
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: a 22-point win in game three. and hung on to
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: win game four by four points. Series shifted back to
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: Cleveland for a pivotal game five. So Raptors were in
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: control of this game early, took a seven-point lead into
[1:11:35] Speaker 1: the break. They were without Brandon Ingram for most of
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: this one, and Ingram has been struggling during this series,
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: but he left the game with right heel inflammation in
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: the second quarter and did not return. We pick up
[1:11:46] Speaker 1: the action in the second half of the game.
[1:11:48] Speaker 3: So Raptors....
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: Extended their lead to double digits in the third quarter,
[1:11:53] Speaker 1: but the Cavs started clawing back. James Harden and Evan
[1:11:56] Speaker 1: Mobley each had 23 and 9 rebounds going, a combined
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: 15 for 28 from the field. Donovan Mitchell added 19
[1:12:02] Speaker 1: and 5 boards, while Dennis Schroeder was a spark off
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: the bench in this one. Schroeder had 18 points in
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: the first four games of this series, but scored 11
[1:12:11] Speaker 1: of his 19 points in this game in the fourth quarter. R.J.
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: Barrett led Toronto with a team-high 25 points, while Jacoby
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: Walker At a 20, Jamal Shedd had 18 off the bench.
[1:12:21] Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes had 17 points in the game, but just
[1:12:24] Speaker 1: three in the second half. So Cavs went on a
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: 13-0 run between the end of the third and start
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter to take control of the game
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: as the Raptors offense went cold, missing their first 11
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: shot attempts in the final frame. Toronto seven for 28
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: from the field in the fourth quarter, while the Cavs
[1:12:41] Speaker 1: hit seven of their first 11 shots in the final frame,
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: finished nine of 19 in the quarter. This was the Cavs'
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: first playoff win when trailing, entering the fourth quarter since
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: game one of the Eastern Conference Finals in 2018, snapping
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: a streak of 22 straight losses when trailing, entering the
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So I have not talked a lot about
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: this series.
[1:13:06] Speaker 4: It's kind of boring. It is boring.
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: NBA basketball, the Cleveland Cavs.
[1:13:13] Speaker 5: I feel like it's always one of those series that's
[1:13:15] Speaker 5: kind of like.
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: Cavs fans are watching this, Mr. B?
[1:13:21] Speaker 4: I feel like the Cavs could make a statement game
[1:13:26] Speaker 4: six or they could be James Harden chokes again game
[1:13:32] Speaker 4: seven type thing. It's up to them. They got a
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: lot of win on the road, I feel like.
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: Neither team won a road game yet in this series.
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: That seems to be the Cavs M.O. in recent years.
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: But you're talking about a team that was first in
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: the East last year, 64-18. They were 52-30 this year.
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: Obviously made that move at the deadline to bring James Harden.
[1:13:57] Speaker 4: You don't want him to go game seven. For players
[1:14:01] Speaker 4: like that, James in another game seven, if he lose that... Yeah,
[1:14:08] Speaker 4: you don't want that.
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: They go to Toronto now, team hobbled by injury. Obviously
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram, less than stellar throughout this series. But do
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: you guys still think the Cavs have an opportunity? I
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: don't want to say be a dark horse in this playoffs,
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: but it seems like things are pretty wide open right now.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: If they can't make it to the second round.
[1:14:27] Speaker 5: I mean, I don't see none of these teams that's
[1:14:29] Speaker 5: in this series doing anything after this. This is going
[1:14:32] Speaker 5: to be a hard fought battle. But shout out to
[1:14:35] Speaker 5: Dennis Schroeder and Mobley. I mean, they kind of won
[1:14:37] Speaker 5: the game for them in that fourth quarter. Scotty Barnes
[1:14:41] Speaker 5: was struggling. Ingram got hurt. You know, game six is
[1:14:46] Speaker 5: coming up, but I see this going seven in Toronto
[1:14:49] Speaker 5: and Toronto winning at seven.
[1:14:51] Speaker 4: I don't see that.
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: You see that?
[1:14:54] Speaker 4: Yeah. I see the Cavs in game six. Yeah. I
[1:14:58] Speaker 4: like Stroller, man. Stroller don't get enough credit, bro.
[1:15:01] Speaker 3: Huh?
[1:15:01] Speaker 4: He does something.
[1:15:02] Speaker 3: He does something.
[1:15:03] Speaker 4: He had 11 points in that fourth.
[1:15:04] Speaker 3: He was hooping.
[1:15:05] Speaker 4: I feel like the Pistons miss him, too, though. But
[1:15:07] Speaker 4: Stroller does a lot of good things for teams, bro.
[1:15:10] Speaker 4: He was over there. I forgot he was over there. Yeah.
[1:15:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.
[1:15:18] Speaker 1: Kenneth, what do you think about the Cavs getting a
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: Game 5 win in the most entertaining playoff series so
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: far this postseason?
[1:15:27] Speaker 3: The way the game was going, I thought they were
[1:15:30] Speaker 3: going to still be two at home, but they are
[1:15:34] Speaker 3: playing Cleve Toronto, which, yeah, they were going to find
[1:15:40] Speaker 3: a way to lose it. And Cleveland played well down
[1:15:42] Speaker 3: the stretch. Dennis Schroeder played well down the stretch, made
[1:15:45] Speaker 3: some big plays. Yeah, no, this series will go seven. Yeah,
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: Cleveland winning on their home floor. I just don't– each
[1:15:56] Speaker 3: team going to win on their home floor. I don't think–
[1:15:58] Speaker 3: it's one of them series. That's a bad thing, though. Yeah,
[1:16:02] Speaker 3: one of them series. Not even one of them series
[1:16:04] Speaker 3: with other teams. Can't win on the road. We've seen
[1:16:07] Speaker 3: it before. It's going to always be that.
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: Even with some type of veteran players?
[1:16:15] Speaker 2: They lost by 22.
[1:16:16] Speaker 3: I'm saying, can't win on the road, but that ain't
[1:16:19] Speaker 3: that a problem?
[1:16:20] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:16:20] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Is that a problem? That's what
[1:16:22] Speaker 4: I'm saying.
[1:16:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:16:23] Speaker 4: I've been in the league for years.
[1:16:27] Speaker 3: But it ain't just on them two.
[1:16:28] Speaker 5: I mean, whoever played next round, whoever you play next round,
[1:16:31] Speaker 5: they won on the road already. Like, you know what
[1:16:34] Speaker 5: I'm saying? Like, this is, like, you can't win on
[1:16:35] Speaker 5: the road. I'm second round. Let's get these motherfuckers out
[1:16:38] Speaker 5: of here.
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: They go in and get one. They go in and
[1:16:40] Speaker 3: get this one. Like, if they go in and get
[1:16:42] Speaker 3: this one, this is the toughest one to get because
[1:16:44] Speaker 3: they're trying to close them out.
[1:16:45] Speaker 4: Right?
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: They go in and get this one. All right, I
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: might change. I'm like, all right, okay, you showed me something.
[1:16:50] Speaker 3: But before, I just. That's what I'm saying.
[1:16:52] Speaker 4: They can make a statement in game six.
[1:16:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. They go in and they get game six.
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:16:57] Speaker 3: All right, okay, I will. I'll raise an eyebrow.
[1:17:00] Speaker 4: Yeah. But Toronto, they're not bad. They're like the Atlanta
[1:17:06] Speaker 4: Hawks to me. Can't shoot. But they play long, athletic,
[1:17:09] Speaker 4: play defense.
[1:17:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, they do all those things.
[1:17:12] Speaker 4: And that's a matchup problem for D. Mitch, I feel like.
[1:17:15] Speaker 4: And James, somebody tall, long. I agree.
[1:17:18] Speaker 3: I agree. And that's why I think, but still, playing
[1:17:22] Speaker 3: at home, playing on the road, play out, they're going
[1:17:24] Speaker 3: to win at home, take care of home floor. That's
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: all Cleveland has to do. They don't, honest to God,
[1:17:29] Speaker 3: they don't have to win anything. Toronto, but no better
[1:17:32] Speaker 3: time than the next game to go in there and
[1:17:34] Speaker 3: get game six.
[1:17:35] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Damn.
[1:17:40] Speaker 2: It's going to be tough, but, hey, if you can
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: do it.
[1:17:42] Speaker 9: I'm going to say because Toronto is going to be cracking.
[1:17:43] Speaker 9: Toronto is going to be loud.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: To Nick's point, change your identity.
[1:17:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[1:17:47] Speaker 2: Change what people think about you. It's an opportunity.
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: Another opportunity.
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: Another opportunity for you.
[1:17:51] Speaker 3: Toronto is tough, too, though. It's going to be loud
[1:17:53] Speaker 3: in there.
[1:17:53] Speaker 2: And they're going to play hard.
[1:17:55] Speaker 3: But be out like Brandon Egan may have been playing
[1:17:57] Speaker 3: well throughout the series, so I don't know if this
[1:17:59] Speaker 3: is a. Ongoing thing that he got going on with
[1:18:02] Speaker 3: his heel, but he hasn't played well throughout the series
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: on So if he's available or not, I don't think
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: it makes a difference right now the way the team
[1:18:11] Speaker 3: has been playing We'll see but I just think it
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: is going seven.
[1:18:18] Speaker 4: And man trick gonna be took care home I still
[1:18:22] Speaker 4: cheers Don't go to Toronto no more. Huh?
[1:18:27] Speaker 3: You don't go to Toronto no more.
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: Yeah I've had my run. No, Drake told me to call. Oh,
[1:18:37] Speaker 4: come out for Iceman? Yeah, he said he wants your Iceman.
[1:18:41] Speaker 5: We gonna beat on the sculpture?
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: See what's in there. You giving out money?
[1:18:47] Speaker 5: You know, you'll fly for that bag.
[1:18:52] Speaker 3: All right, well.
[1:18:55] Speaker 4: Nah, he had a Packers jersey on, a jacket on.
[1:18:57] Speaker 4: I don't fuck with that, man.
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: Well, let's keep this thing moving. Shift back to the
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: Western Conference. Thunder continued their first-round dominance as of late,
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: sweeping the Suns Monday with an average margin of victory
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: of 17 points per game in the series. Third straight season,
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: OKC has swept their first-round opponent. SGA was dominant throughout
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: the series, particularly in the final three games, where he
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: averaged 37 points and eight assists on 63-42, 91 splits.
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: Since March 18th, SGA has missed exactly one field goal
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter in overtime, going 15-16 in that stretch.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: So when you look at what's going on here, we
[1:19:33] Speaker 1: didn't talk a lot about the Thunder in that series
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: just because we knew what was going to happen. It
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: was a, you know, it's a stepping stone to the
[1:19:39] Speaker 1: second round. But Mr. B, we'll start with you. How
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: impressive were SGA and the Thunder in their sweep over
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: the Suns?
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: I mean, the right one was on the wall.
[1:19:49] Speaker 5: I mean, they haven't, they're not going to get challenged
[1:19:51] Speaker 5: to like the Western Conference Finals to me. So right
[1:19:55] Speaker 5: now they're just, you know, they're just taking a game,
[1:19:58] Speaker 5: game by game. This is a team who who's shown
[1:20:02] Speaker 5: last year that they were serious. They're showing it again
[1:20:04] Speaker 5: that they're serious this year. SGA is up in his game.
[1:20:08] Speaker 5: You know, without J-Dub, you know, they were still number
[1:20:12] Speaker 5: one this year. His production points and everything has went up. So,
[1:20:17] Speaker 5: to me, you know, they were just, you know, it
[1:20:19] Speaker 5: wasn't even really a matchup with Phoenix. You know, they
[1:20:21] Speaker 5: just doubled D-Book, took him out the game, and, you know,
[1:20:25] Speaker 5: basically said, everybody else around you got to beat us.
[1:20:29] Speaker 5: But right now, yeah, man, right now they're just chillin'.
[1:20:31] Speaker 5: To me, OKC is just telling us the Western Conference Finals, man.
[1:20:34] Speaker 5: No matter who wins that Houston-Lakers game, it don't matter. Like,
[1:20:37] Speaker 5: they're just telling us the Western Conference Finals, and then
[1:20:39] Speaker 5: they'll be challenged.
[1:20:45] Speaker 1: So, Kane, let's shift over to you. When you look
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: at S.J. and this Thunder squad, what they've been able
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: to do, not even just the past three seasons, obviously
[1:20:51] Speaker 1: defending champions, coming in, smacking the Suns the way they did.
[1:20:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the.
[1:20:58] Speaker 3: First year was a learning experience for them. Coming back
[1:21:00] Speaker 3: last year and winning it. I think them learning what
[1:21:08] Speaker 3: each round takes, what each game in the playoff takes.
[1:21:13] Speaker 3: I think they have that understanding now. Yeah, and for
[1:21:17] Speaker 3: you to go out and be as dominant as you
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: have been all season in the first round, it says
[1:21:23] Speaker 3: a lot about your mind state, where you are as
[1:21:25] Speaker 3: a team, and what your goal is, right?
[1:21:29] Speaker 2: They're trying to get the 16 wins, man. Like it's
[1:21:32] Speaker 2: just what it is. And you can tell the way
[1:21:33] Speaker 2: they play.
[1:21:35] Speaker 3: Um, yeah, no, it's, and then doing without their second
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: best player, he's been in and out of the lineup
[1:21:42] Speaker 3: all year. So they understand how to win without him. Um,
[1:21:46] Speaker 3: and the more winning they do, the better chances are
[1:21:49] Speaker 3: to get him back and to continue, um, to try
[1:21:53] Speaker 3: to repeat. I think they're heading the right direction. Um,
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: It was a bad matchup for Phoenix. They don't have
[1:22:01] Speaker 3: any bigs. They have two really, really good bigs in
[1:22:05] Speaker 3: Chet and Isaiah Hardenstein. They have two really good bigs.
[1:22:09] Speaker 3: And what Phoenix does well is perimeter scoring. And Oklahoma
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: City wing defenders are elite. With putting two on Devin Booker,
[1:22:22] Speaker 3: making Jalen Green work for every.
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: Shot, making....
[1:22:26] Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks worked for every shot as a recipe for winning, right?
[1:22:30] Speaker 3: You taking the ball out there, best player's hand, and
[1:22:36] Speaker 3: Devin Booker and making other guys play one-on-one. And we
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: saw it game in, game out. When you beat a
[1:22:43] Speaker 3: team by average of 17, yeah, you putting a belt
[1:22:49] Speaker 3: to ass. And to Brandon's point he just made, the
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: second round will be– It would be the same no
[1:22:57] Speaker 3: matter who gets out of the Lakers-Houston series. It'll be
[1:23:00] Speaker 3: some more of the same. You don't understand how to
[1:23:02] Speaker 3: win right now, man. They're not going to relax. Like
[1:23:07] Speaker 3: I've been saying, defense travels, and I think they have
[1:23:10] Speaker 3: been one of the more elite defensive teams of the
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: last few seasons, and they show it this.
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: Time of year.
[1:23:16] Speaker 3: Once you figure out how to win in the playoffs, man,
[1:23:21] Speaker 3: it's a repeat thing, right? go out and try to
[1:23:24] Speaker 3: repeat the things that we did well in order to
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: get to that point.
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: I think they're doing that once again.
[1:23:29] Speaker 3: And it's going to continue in the second round, whoever
[1:23:32] Speaker 3: the unfortunate victim is going to be.
[1:23:37] Speaker 4: I think we don't give, I think people don't give
[1:23:40] Speaker 4: SGA the credit of how dominant he is, you know,
[1:23:46] Speaker 4: because he's not loud or big or, you know, but
[1:23:50] Speaker 4: what he does, he's a silent assassin. He's Takes over teams.
[1:23:54] Speaker 4: 4-0 sweep.
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: Not talking about it. They up here chilling.
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: It's crazy to see where he started at, where he's
[1:24:05] Speaker 4: at now. Okay, so he's just a team. It's not
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: just a team with a great score. They all play well.
[1:24:14] Speaker 4: They play together. They like each other. They're doing the
[1:24:18] Speaker 4: right things, and that's tough to beat. That's tough to beat.
[1:24:22] Speaker 4: And with your leader on the same page, I feel
[1:24:26] Speaker 4: like it's going through OKC for me.
[1:24:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, they are a complete team, man. With or without J-Dub,
[1:24:41] Speaker 3: they are a hell of a team, right? Because they
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: got a lot of guys that can fill that void, man.
[1:24:48] Speaker 1: They're ready to fill that void. Yeah, they're ready.
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: They can and they can and they're ready to, right?
[1:24:52] Speaker 3: This is my opportunity to show you, show the world
[1:24:55] Speaker 3: what I can do.
[1:24:55] Speaker 4: And JWNL.
[1:24:56] Speaker 3: Because they can't, hey, in their mind, shit, they can't
[1:24:59] Speaker 3: pay all of us.
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: And that's right.
[1:25:01] Speaker 4: So we got to keep our value high.
[1:25:02] Speaker 2: So we got, hey, they can't pay all of us.
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: But that's the thing. You look at the camaraderie, the
[1:25:07] Speaker 1: brotherhood that this squad has, but eventually if you're one
[1:25:09] Speaker 1: of them dudes on the bench, I think it's like
[1:25:11] Speaker 1: the A.J. Mitchell's over there. I'm out here balling.
[1:25:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, my bank account.
[1:25:14] Speaker 3: Eventually, like, hey, I like winning rings. The way my
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: bank account's set up, hey, I like y'all, but hey,
[1:25:21] Speaker 3: I'm like.
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: Give me my two rings.
[1:25:23] Speaker 3: I can see y'all get two and I'm going to
[1:25:25] Speaker 3: get my bag.
[1:25:26] Speaker 4: You don't see that, though. You don't even see it
[1:25:28] Speaker 4: on the court, though. He could be thinking it. I
[1:25:30] Speaker 4: know he's thinking it.
[1:25:31] Speaker 3: Of course you are. You ain't working this, you working
[1:25:34] Speaker 3: that hard to win for sure, but you working that
[1:25:36] Speaker 3: hard for your individual success.
[1:25:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, okay.
[1:25:39] Speaker 1: Absolutely. I got my ring, but.
[1:25:41] Speaker 3: I work this hard. Both things are parallel, right? Both
[1:25:45] Speaker 3: things are simultaneously happening, right? I'm working this hard so
[1:25:50] Speaker 3: I can get on the floor and help us win
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: so we can get another ring, but They paid Chet.
[1:25:55] Speaker 3: They paid J-Dub.
[1:25:56] Speaker 2: They paid Isaiah.
[1:25:58] Speaker 3: They paid Shea. Hey, I know. Hey, I'm averaging 15
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: over here, and I'm number five.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Yeah. I go somewhere else.
[1:26:10] Speaker 3: My 15 is 22.
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: Isn't that because people don't talk about O.K.C.? That's why
[1:26:14] Speaker 4: they don't have that much drama.
[1:26:16] Speaker 3: No. I just think they do a good job at
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: drafting guys and guys buying into what they are doing.
[1:26:21] Speaker 5: And then whatever drama they have, they just better at
[1:26:24] Speaker 5: keeping it closed in.
[1:26:25] Speaker 3: I don't even think it's nothing. I know what I'm saying.
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
[1:26:28] Speaker 3: You know in the bullshit, I think everybody know they roll.
[1:26:31] Speaker 3: Everybody know they roll, right? That's what I'm saying. When
[1:26:33] Speaker 3: you know you'll roll, and they do a good job
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: of putting guys and knowing this is what it's going
[1:26:38] Speaker 3: to be. When you're not expecting to do, there's no
[1:26:43] Speaker 3: room for it, I don't think. But we know what
[1:26:46] Speaker 3: Shea brings. We know he's all NBA. MVP caliber, we
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: already know this. Nobody, we understand our skill set, but
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: we're not there yet. So there's no pecking order over there. Oh,
[1:27:02] Speaker 3: from after Shea? Yeah, there's no, huh?
[1:27:06] Speaker 4: But I feel like they was trying to make that
[1:27:08] Speaker 4: like with Jalen, J-Dub in the finals. They were trying
[1:27:11] Speaker 4: to give him finals MVP.
[1:27:13] Speaker 3: No, J-Dub played great. He did. But with the car
[1:27:17] Speaker 3: that ran that engine, we know what it is.
[1:27:19] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: You know where the bread is buttered at, right?
[1:27:22] Speaker 3: J-Dub is a– yeah.
[1:27:25] Speaker 4: But could that mess them up? Like when J-Dub coming
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: back and– No. What if he calls a ball and
[1:27:30] Speaker 4: his average is 17?
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: I don't think so.
[1:27:32] Speaker 4: And you go back to the bench. That's hard for anybody.
[1:27:35] Speaker 4: I don't think so.
[1:27:36] Speaker 3: I think because that was his role already.
[1:27:38] Speaker 4: It ain't messed up Boston enough.
[1:27:39] Speaker 3: Right. I just think because it's his role already. Tatum
[1:27:41] Speaker 3: and Brown.
[1:27:42] Speaker 4: It ain't messed them up.
[1:27:44] Speaker 3: And I can see them being very community. Communitive over
[1:27:47] Speaker 3: there with the guys. I can see them.
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: I don't know who was taking Jason Taylor's spot in
[1:27:51] Speaker 4: that lineup.
[1:27:53] Speaker 5: No, I'm saying like you said, if J-Dub would have
[1:27:55] Speaker 5: got finals MVP over SGA.
[1:27:57] Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about when J-Dub was out, Mitchell was balling.
[1:28:01] Speaker 4: And he went right back to the bench. It's like
[1:28:04] Speaker 4: you start that roll back. You go back to the bench.
[1:28:09] Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. I didn't see the conflict
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: after that. It took a toll on some people. It
[1:28:16] Speaker 4: took a toll on some people.
[1:28:17] Speaker 3: If we've had a winning recipe doing it this way,
[1:28:22] Speaker 3: we've been whooping ass and taking names doing it this way.
[1:28:28] Speaker 3: Not going to be the asshole to interrupt it. Right? Like,
[1:28:31] Speaker 3: you're going to look crazy. And we win it? No,
[1:28:34] Speaker 3: we win it first and foremost. You're going to look crazy.
[1:28:38] Speaker 4: If I'm averaging 17. in the first 23 games, I'll
[1:28:42] Speaker 4: be undefeated down here at 23. Yeah. It's looking like
[1:28:45] Speaker 4: the same. But then I go back to three shots.
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: That's fucked up.
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: You was getting three shots before the 21 games, right?
[1:28:53] Speaker 3: Put that on the ball, though. You stayed ready.
[1:28:57] Speaker 5: Now you got that on your resume, that 23 games,
[1:28:59] Speaker 5: look what I've done. And then I come back, right?
[1:29:02] Speaker 5: And then we win another championship. So now I'm showing that, yo,
[1:29:05] Speaker 5: you can put me in any situation. Remember, I'm trying
[1:29:07] Speaker 5: to be in.
[1:29:07] Speaker 3: The league forever.
[1:29:08] Speaker 5: Because if they're not going to have the money to
[1:29:09] Speaker 5: pay me, at least my value.
[1:29:11] Speaker 2: Is higher than theirs. They're not going to have the
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: money to pay you.
[1:29:13] Speaker 5: So now I can go get that 80, whatever, 90,
[1:29:15] Speaker 5: whatever from somewhere else.
[1:29:16] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:29:17] Speaker 4: With two rings. With two rings, though. You know, they
[1:29:22] Speaker 4: picking up.
[1:29:23] Speaker 3: The phone call and Sam pressing them like, hey, what's
[1:29:25] Speaker 3: up with Wiggins? How is his attitude? How is these things?
[1:29:29] Speaker 3: And you know it ain't going to be nothing but
[1:29:31] Speaker 3: hot praise. That's another fucking 15 million, right? Man, just
[1:29:36] Speaker 3: because you're a good dude, a good locker room dude,
[1:29:38] Speaker 3: you ain't causing no problem, no riffraff. You show up,
[1:29:40] Speaker 3: you do your job, you work.
[1:29:43] Speaker 9: And now the narrative.
[1:29:43] Speaker 4: That's a tough, that's. that would be tough for me
[1:29:47] Speaker 4: or anybody. I know I wouldn't go crazy, but I'm
[1:29:50] Speaker 4: just saying situations like that in OKC, they handle it well.
[1:29:53] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:29:54] Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest with you.
[1:29:56] Speaker 5: I wouldn't give a damn because if we win it,
[1:29:57] Speaker 5: I'm about to get paid anyway. You already saw what
[1:29:59] Speaker 5: I could do. So me being mad and we about
[1:30:01] Speaker 5: to go back, I can't even strip. Let me just,
[1:30:04] Speaker 5: this is when they tell you just be still and
[1:30:06] Speaker 5: just let it happen because it's going to happen.
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: Or somebody come up to you and say, hey man,
[1:30:11] Speaker 2: you're doing too much, bro.
[1:30:12] Speaker 3: 17. Right, you don't want to get the, hey man,
[1:30:16] Speaker 3: you're doing too much.
[1:30:16] Speaker 4: How many years is he in?
[1:30:19] Speaker 3: 17, be 23 and one.
[1:30:20] Speaker 4: You come back, I'm 10.
[1:30:23] Speaker 3: So you got Mitchell, Wiggins, Joe, all of them doing this.
[1:30:27] Speaker 4: 17 is different than nine on the championship team.
[1:30:31] Speaker 1: This is second season.
[1:30:32] Speaker 2: I'm saying them four, right?
[1:30:34] Speaker 4: Second season and you're about to get two rings?
[1:30:35] Speaker 1: So average seven, first thing in 14 this year.
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: Oh, he's paid.
[1:30:40] Speaker 4: Oh, he's about to get paid.
[1:30:41] Speaker 1: Minutes increased by about 10.
[1:30:42] Speaker 3: I'm just saying like- Them four dudes, they can't keep
[1:30:46] Speaker 3: them four. Wallace, Wiggins, Joe, who else did I say?
[1:30:57] Speaker 3: So you got Isaiah, you got the Joe kid, Wiggins, Wallace, Dort, Caruso.
[1:31:04] Speaker 4: I'm just saying the money will be different.
[1:31:05] Speaker 2: I'm saying you can't keep all of them.
[1:31:07] Speaker 4: Money will be different.
[1:31:08] Speaker 3: You're talking about this summer, it would be.
[1:31:10] Speaker 1: And they got Jerry McCain over there.
[1:31:12] Speaker 2: Jerry McCain, I forgot about McCain over there. He on
[1:31:14] Speaker 2: the rookie deal still.
[1:31:16] Speaker 4: So they got, like, listen, all them dudes finna get paid, bro.
[1:31:21] Speaker 3: The only one, yeah, they all can score. They all
[1:31:25] Speaker 3: can play, but OKC, man, they playing with house money, man.
[1:31:31] Speaker 3: And guess what they finna get this year? top 13 pick. Oh,
[1:31:38] Speaker 3: because they get the Clippers pick. So guess what? There
[1:31:41] Speaker 3: you go. They're playing with house money, man. They didn't
[1:31:49] Speaker 3: hit a lick and they are running with it. Yeah.
[1:31:57] Speaker 2: Good management, good coaching, good players equal goddamn winning.
[1:32:01] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. That's like the Spurs do. That's who? What?
[1:32:05] Speaker 4: They went from averaging 22 to six man of the year.
[1:32:10] Speaker 4: Do you think this crew of OKC is bigger than
[1:32:12] Speaker 4: the OKC crew?
[1:32:15] Speaker 3: Better.
[1:32:17] Speaker 2: Bigger or better?
[1:32:19] Speaker 4: Not more popular, no. I'm not going to say better.
[1:32:22] Speaker 4: They're not better.
[1:32:23] Speaker 1: You don't think that they're better? Look, I love the
[1:32:26] Speaker 1: KD Russ Harden Thunder Squad, but I think this team
[1:32:32] Speaker 1: would smack them.
[1:32:33] Speaker 5: You think this team with SGA and then with SmackDown. Man,
[1:32:38] Speaker 5: they was battling Kobe. They was going through the trenches.
[1:32:46] Speaker 4: They caught San Antonio. They going through the trenches.
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: And I love that team. That's one of my favorite
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: basketball team crews from back in those days. And we
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: talked about this before the show. And I've said this
[1:32:58] Speaker 1: before on the show. For some reason, this OKC Thunder
[1:33:00] Speaker 1: squad just don't seem, and they are. They check all
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: the boxes.
[1:33:03] Speaker 3: They should feel that way, but they don't feel as
[1:33:05] Speaker 3: exciting as that old. But the only thing is, it's
[1:33:08] Speaker 3: the bigs for me, right? The bigs on that OKC team. Serge?
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: After that.
[1:33:15] Speaker 4: And then who else?
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: Nick Collison, Kendrick Perkins.
[1:33:21] Speaker 3: Did they have Jeff Green over there?
[1:33:22] Speaker 2: He's not a big.
[1:33:23] Speaker 4: OK.
[1:33:24] Speaker 5: If he was on the team, I don't know if
[1:33:26] Speaker 5: he was on the team or not.
[1:33:27] Speaker 4: Serge was a good big, though.
[1:33:30] Speaker 2: Okay, I said after that.
[1:33:34] Speaker 4: Shit, you're going to line up. Was it Adam? Stephen Adams?
[1:33:38] Speaker 4: He came late. Stephen Adams and Hockerstein, whatever, ain't that
[1:33:42] Speaker 4: far off now.
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: I know it sounds blasphemous and crazy, but.
[1:33:49] Speaker 3: I'm just saying. This crew.
[1:33:51] Speaker 2: His chest face the floor. Isaiah Holstein gives you more.
[1:33:54] Speaker 3: Pass rebounder.
[1:33:56] Speaker 12: KD can guard Chet. Yeah, I was about to say.
[1:34:00] Speaker 12: But after that, it's... Russ. It's close. So who are they?
[1:34:06] Speaker 3: Self-Alocia?
[1:34:07] Speaker 9: Self-Alocia, yeah.
[1:34:07] Speaker 3: Defender.
[1:34:08] Speaker 9: I mean, they got to the finals, dog.
[1:34:11] Speaker 4: They just ran into them always.
[1:34:13] Speaker 2: Who else?
[1:34:14] Speaker 1: Like, this team is about to.
[1:34:15] Speaker 4: Reggie Jackson. Yeah, Reggie Jackson come off the bench.
[1:34:17] Speaker 3: He could score.
[1:34:18] Speaker 2: A bucket.
[1:34:19] Speaker 3: It's close, though. Yeah.
[1:34:21] Speaker 2: It's closer than we think.
[1:34:22] Speaker 4: Eric Maynard. Yeah, they have some– They had a squad, bro.
[1:34:28] Speaker 3: So this is my– like, James was six-man of the year, right?
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: Yes.
[1:34:34] Speaker 3: Was he that James Harden then? Like, the James Harden
[1:34:37] Speaker 3: who went to Houston, took over, and was like– No.
[1:34:39] Speaker 5: Was he– No, but he was James Harden in those minutes.
[1:34:44] Speaker 5: So those minutes alone just let everybody know, give this
[1:34:46] Speaker 5: motherfucker 40 minutes.
[1:34:48] Speaker 3: We're going to see what it's going to do.
[1:34:49] Speaker 5: So it was like, it was just there, but it's like,
[1:34:51] Speaker 5: all right, I got to chill.
[1:34:52] Speaker 3: Because, you know.
[1:34:54] Speaker 5: But it's here, though, if y'all want to get, you know,
[1:34:56] Speaker 5: if you want to get crazy.
[1:34:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
[1:34:59] Speaker 9: So that's just how I look at it.
[1:35:00] Speaker 3: I dig it.
[1:35:01] Speaker 5: And then those three guys all became megastars in their
[1:35:04] Speaker 5: own way.
[1:35:05] Speaker 4: So it's just kind of like, yeah.
[1:35:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:35:07] Speaker 4: That's why.
[1:35:08] Speaker 3: Three league MVPs?
[1:35:09] Speaker 5: Like three league MVPs came from one team, and it's
[1:35:11] Speaker 5: kind of like, I still think that team is better,
[1:35:13] Speaker 5: but this team is doing their own justice in their
[1:35:15] Speaker 5: own way.
[1:35:16] Speaker 3: More together, I feel like. Yeah.
[1:35:19] Speaker 1: More together.
[1:35:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. Chemistry. Yeah, they put.
[1:35:21] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
[1:35:21] Speaker 3: They built this team around Shea, right? They built this
[1:35:24] Speaker 3: team around Shea's skill set and attributes and doing an
[1:35:28] Speaker 3: excellent job at that, right? Them dudes, they was like
[1:35:32] Speaker 3: the best available player, God damn it, right here. We pickin'.
[1:35:36] Speaker 3: He was the best available. He came from Seattle. Russell
[1:35:38] Speaker 3: was the best available.
[1:35:41] Speaker 4: It might be 50.
[1:35:42] Speaker 5: Because now that you're talking about his leadership, I think
[1:35:45] Speaker 5: his leadership might be the reason why they're better than him.
[1:35:50] Speaker 5: Shay's leadership-wise. Because who was the leader there?
[1:35:54] Speaker 3: I was going to say Cameron Collison. I would say chemistry.
[1:35:58] Speaker 9: But your best player is the leader, and they move
[1:36:00] Speaker 9: how he moves.
[1:36:01] Speaker 1: But is chemistry a part of that leadership component? You
[1:36:04] Speaker 1: said different personalities with KD and Russ, obviously. And they
[1:36:07] Speaker 1: fighting over. They both thought they were the guy. I'm
[1:36:09] Speaker 1: not going to say neither one of them was wrong.
[1:36:10] Speaker 1: I don't know. We got to ask the chat that,
[1:36:14] Speaker 1: who they think. Not the best performance from the chat today, Mr. B.
[1:36:19] Speaker 1: Court chat, maybe doing other things today. We got a
[1:36:21] Speaker 1: lot of infiltrators now. Coming in spreading negativity.
[1:36:25] Speaker 2: But they're talking about your Lakers?
[1:36:27] Speaker 4: No.
[1:36:27] Speaker 1: Just, you know, don't like the chat attitude today, King.
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: I would just say that. Don't like where y'all heads
[1:36:32] Speaker 1: are at today. Most of y'all, for our mainstays that
[1:36:35] Speaker 1: are always here, we appreciate you guys. Seems like we
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: have some dissenters that had some time off today. Not
[1:36:41] Speaker 1: real Steel's Arena chatters. The chat confused just like everybody.
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: Trying to figure it out. It's so empty.
[1:36:48] Speaker 1: So we look at SGA. Been on elite run. Can
[1:36:51] Speaker 1: they write just like that? Look to my right. Tap
[1:36:55] Speaker 1: on the shoulder time. Some of y'all are going to
[1:36:57] Speaker 1: get tapped on the shoulder in the chat.
[1:36:58] Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding.
[1:36:59] Speaker 1: SJ's been on elite run the last four seasons. Going
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: to make his fourth straight first team All-NBA. Will likely
[1:37:04] Speaker 1: win his second straight MVP after becoming the fourth player
[1:37:08] Speaker 1: ever to win a scoring title MVP and finals MVP
[1:37:10] Speaker 1: in the same season last year. First to win a
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: Western Conference finals MVP, in case you care. This was
[1:37:16] Speaker 1: his fourth straight season averaging 30 points per game. On 50% shooting.
[1:37:23] Speaker 3: Why you always talking about the bigs?
[1:37:26] Speaker 4: You should have just said what you wanted to say
[1:37:28] Speaker 4: about Nick Collison.
[1:37:30] Speaker 1: What?
[1:37:31] Speaker 2: No, Nick was serviceable.
[1:37:32] Speaker 3: Nick did his job, but he wasn't shooting the ball
[1:37:35] Speaker 3: from the perimeter like Chet and Kendrick Perkins wasn't. Let's
[1:37:39] Speaker 3: not act like Serge Ibaka developed a 15 to 17
[1:37:43] Speaker 3: foot jump shot. Then he started shooting threes later. But
[1:37:47] Speaker 3: don't act like them bigs was fucking knocking.
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: It out the park.
[1:37:51] Speaker 3: I'm just saying. That's why I was like.
[1:37:52] Speaker 2: Nick, no, they retired Nick Jersey.
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: The bigs, though.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: I was like.
[1:37:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, they retired Nick. I'm trying to fight.
[1:37:57] Speaker 4: I said, stick it at him.
[1:37:58] Speaker 3: So the Williams kid who come off the bench for
[1:38:01] Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, he shoot the shit out the ball from
[1:38:03] Speaker 3: the perimeter. The big kid, he shoot the ball well
[1:38:05] Speaker 3: from the perimeter. Chet shoot the ball well from the perimeter.
[1:38:07] Speaker 3: Hardenstein do what he do. And I just look at
[1:38:10] Speaker 3: what the bigs did at Oklahoma City. It wasn't like
[1:38:12] Speaker 3: they were. Did none of them average. I'm saying Serge
[1:38:16] Speaker 3: would average what? Low teens on that team? You wasn't
[1:38:23] Speaker 3: getting much out of the other, as far as scoring.
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: It's facts.
[1:38:30] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: No, you're right.
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: I played against the team. I ain't making it up.
[1:38:37] Speaker 3: That team was crazy.
[1:38:38] Speaker 2: I knew. I knew the scouting report.
[1:38:41] Speaker 3: I knew when I got my motherfucking scouting report and
[1:38:43] Speaker 3: it said, Ken, you guarding KD. Like, I didn't know.
[1:38:53] Speaker 3: It wasn't that I had to guard the big. I'm
[1:38:56] Speaker 3: just facts, bro. I ain't saying that dudes had good careers.
[1:39:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But what Chet does, I think, is.
[1:39:06] Speaker 4: He'll be a difference maker.
[1:39:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, that's all.
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: And the defensive player of the year conversation started to
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: get it together offensively as well.
[1:39:18] Speaker 3: I'm not shitting on nobody's career. Never lost a first-round
[1:39:23] Speaker 3: playoff game.
[1:39:24] Speaker 2: Well, not them two. Not them two.
[1:39:29] Speaker 1: But, like I said, let's talk SGA real quick. Elite
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: run last four seasons. Four straight first-team All-NBAs. MVP championship
[1:39:37] Speaker 1: last year. We're going to get a second straight MVP
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: this year if the Square Media does what we know
[1:39:41] Speaker 1: that they will do. Four straight seasons averaging 30 points
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: per game on 50% shooting. One shot of MJ. with
[1:39:51] Speaker 1: the most in league history, the Michael Jordan. So you
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: look at what SGA has done in this stretch and
[1:39:59] Speaker 1: with the potential with this window, with this Thunder squad,
[1:40:01] Speaker 1: how far is SGA from being in the conversation amongst
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: the greatest guards in NBA history? Is it time to
[1:40:08] Speaker 1: start thinking about that?
[1:40:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time.
[1:40:11] Speaker 5: I'm glad we're talking about this because if he does
[1:40:14] Speaker 5: what he did last year and does the same thing
[1:40:17] Speaker 5: this season, it's going to be some uncomfortable conversations for
[1:40:22] Speaker 5: a lot of guards. We're just talking about the guards,
[1:40:24] Speaker 5: not just point guards, guards. When we talk about the
[1:40:26] Speaker 5: Michael Jordans, the Kobe Bryants, the Steph Currys, all these
[1:40:29] Speaker 5: guys that are top guards, if he does what he
[1:40:33] Speaker 5: did last year, he has to be in a conversation
[1:40:36] Speaker 5: top 10 for sure.
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
[1:40:39] Speaker 4: I'm thinking he's about to say top five.
[1:40:42] Speaker 3: That's why I said that.
[1:40:44] Speaker 4: I'm like, you said top ten.
[1:40:46] Speaker 9: I mean, because he's still going. Top five, top ten.
[1:40:50] Speaker 4: Go there. Go there. I'm going to hear it softly.
[1:40:52] Speaker 3: No, no, no. That's obvious.
[1:40:54] Speaker 9: I mean, top five, top ten.
[1:40:56] Speaker 3: It's not the same.
[1:40:57] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:40:59] Speaker 3: Okay, well, top five. Guard. Yeah, I'm going to say
[1:41:01] Speaker 3: go there. Guard to ever lace him up. Right now,
[1:41:06] Speaker 3: he is. Top five.
[1:41:07] Speaker 4: Mike, Cole, and then who else? And then who else
[1:41:11] Speaker 4: after that? Mike, Cole.
[1:41:13] Speaker 3: As far as what?
[1:41:14] Speaker 2: Basketball? We talking about hoopers?
[1:41:15] Speaker 5: Yeah, we talking about just guards. From point guard to
[1:41:19] Speaker 5: small forward. I mean, point guard to shooting guard.
[1:41:23] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, just guards.
[1:41:24] Speaker 9: Yeah, just guards.
[1:41:25] Speaker 4: Not the forwards, not LeBron. I'm talking about just the guards.
[1:41:29] Speaker 9: If he does this again.
[1:41:31] Speaker 3: So you're saying if he sweeps again.
[1:41:34] Speaker 4: He gets league MVP, finals MVP.
[1:41:38] Speaker 5: Yes, he's got to be in the top five, top
[1:41:41] Speaker 5: ten of guards. And then point guards, he's for sure
[1:41:43] Speaker 5: in the top five. He's getting Isaiah Thomas out of here.
[1:41:47] Speaker 5: If he does it again... So you can't do that?
[1:41:50] Speaker 5: Because the wars.
[1:41:52] Speaker 3: And all that shit didn't exist.
[1:41:54] Speaker 9: Yo, but I'm league MVP as a point guard.
[1:41:56] Speaker 5: I'm league MVP and I'm averaging 30.
[1:41:59] Speaker 3: I hear you.
[1:42:00] Speaker 9: I gotta be knocking on that door.
[1:42:02] Speaker 3: Knocking on it and getting somebody out of there. What?
[1:42:06] Speaker 3: Knocking on the door and getting somebody out of there
[1:42:08] Speaker 3: or two separate things?
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: How long do it take for him to get rid
[1:42:12] Speaker 4: of the Steph's magic?
[1:42:14] Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:42:16] Speaker 4: If he does it like two more times.
[1:42:18] Speaker 3: Okay, like two more times. That's what I'm saying.
[1:42:20] Speaker 4: That's why I asked how much do he got to do?
[1:42:22] Speaker 5: We don't know, but it ain't... Listen, the conversation starts...
[1:42:26] Speaker 5: If he's sweet back to back, I don't think Steph
[1:42:28] Speaker 5: did that.
[1:42:29] Speaker 4: No, Steph didn't do that.
[1:42:30] Speaker 9: Isaiah Thompson didn't do that.
[1:42:31] Speaker 3: But he never won finals MVP.
[1:42:33] Speaker 2: I wonder why is that?
[1:42:35] Speaker 3: In a championship.
[1:42:36] Speaker 5: Did he have a Kevin Durant? He won MVP back-to-back, though.
[1:42:40] Speaker 5: Did he have a Kevin Durant?
[1:42:44] Speaker 4: MVP.
[1:42:44] Speaker 2: Did he have a Kevin Durant?
[1:42:46] Speaker 4: No.
[1:42:47] Speaker 2: So there are four. That's what I'm saying. Steph had
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: Kevin Durant over there.
[1:42:50] Speaker 4: So that's it.
[1:42:51] Speaker 3: That's right. He don't have that. That's not like that
[1:42:59] Speaker 3: trophy that Iguodala got at home is in his rightful
[1:43:02] Speaker 3: fucking place.
[1:43:02] Speaker 1: Well earned in America.
[1:43:04] Speaker 4: That's what it is.
[1:43:06] Speaker 1: That's what it is.
[1:43:07] Speaker 3: Stop that shit. That's what it is.
[1:43:08] Speaker 5: Even after 30 the last four years.
[1:43:10] Speaker 3: I'm winning. I ain't taking nothing off his plate. I
[1:43:12] Speaker 3: gave you top 10.
[1:43:14] Speaker 5: I think the conversation part as guards it needs to
[1:43:16] Speaker 5: be had.
[1:43:16] Speaker 3: I gave you top 10.
[1:43:17] Speaker 4: If that's if though, let's see. We don't want it.
[1:43:20] Speaker 5: Can y'all name five guards that ever played this game?
[1:43:23] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: He's Michael Jordan.
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: John Stockton.
[1:43:26] Speaker 3: He's better.
[1:43:27] Speaker 4: John Stockton.
[1:43:28] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. He got that. Wait, wait. John Stockton,
[1:43:31] Speaker 3: Jason Kidd. They're better.
[1:43:32] Speaker 9: They're better than SGA.
[1:43:34] Speaker 3: No. Who? Not to me.
[1:43:37] Speaker 4: Not to you.
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: After what they did.
[1:43:39] Speaker 4: As a point guard?
[1:43:40] Speaker 3: Absolutely. John Stockton all the time in the assistant team.
[1:43:45] Speaker 2: For sure.
[1:43:45] Speaker 3: Jason Kidd top five all the time. Magic Johnson. Absolutely.
[1:43:48] Speaker 3: But he's over them though.
[1:43:50] Speaker 9: He's over Stockton and Kidd.
[1:43:52] Speaker 3: Nah, he ain't there yet.
[1:43:55] Speaker 4: It's Magic.
[1:43:57] Speaker 5: It's Magic, Steph, IT, and then I'm putting a question
[1:44:02] Speaker 5: mark with SJ to see what happens this year.
[1:44:03] Speaker 2: So Oscar Robinson was a point guard. You do know that, right?
[1:44:05] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:44:06] Speaker 9: Triple-double one time.
[1:44:07] Speaker 3: Win one time MVP, right? Still got to put him
[1:44:11] Speaker 3: in the conversation Cincinnati bear.
[1:44:13] Speaker 2: No, you've got to put him in the conversation.
[1:44:14] Speaker 3: He ain't it Russ Russ.
[1:44:16] Speaker 5: Absolutely, but I'm just saying this guy is getting it
[1:44:18] Speaker 5: done at every level MVP Kyrie MVP all this.
[1:44:24] Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm giving you guys. Oh, no guards. No.
[1:44:28] Speaker 3: No go.
[1:44:28] Speaker 4: I want to go Yeah, I want to go hard.
[1:44:30] Speaker 9: So we got Michael. So we got Michael Kobe.
[1:44:32] Speaker 3: You got these ways and Huh? D-Wade, James Harden.
[1:44:35] Speaker 2: D-Wade, James Harden.
[1:44:37] Speaker 1: And it's really, I mean, you consider SJ a point.
[1:44:40] Speaker 3: He's just saying guard.
[1:44:41] Speaker 9: I'm just saying guard. I think he's going to be
[1:44:43] Speaker 9: in the conversation when it comes to guards.
[1:44:46] Speaker 3: Huh?
[1:44:47] Speaker 4: He's better than AI.
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: No. SJ better than AI.
[1:44:49] Speaker 4: No.
[1:44:50] Speaker 5: He's better than all these guys.
[1:44:54] Speaker 2: You want to count accolades.
[1:44:55] Speaker 3: Hell yeah. This is what it's about.
[1:44:56] Speaker 9: This is why I'm here. 30 at night and I'm
[1:44:59] Speaker 9: getting it done. If he does it again, then what?
[1:45:01] Speaker 4: What are we talking about?
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: Let me score a title shot, guys. Come on, yes.
[1:45:05] Speaker 4: Huh? Bro, I got a finals MVP.
[1:45:07] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:45:08] Speaker 9: I got an MVP, a Western Conference MVP.
[1:45:09] Speaker 3: That don't mean you better, man.
[1:45:10] Speaker 9: And I'm about to do it again.
[1:45:11] Speaker 3: That don't mean you better, man.
[1:45:12] Speaker 4: And I'm about to do it again.
[1:45:13] Speaker 3: That don't mean you better, guys.
[1:45:14] Speaker 4: I'm knocking on the door.
[1:45:15] Speaker 3: That don't mean you better, man. I'm knocking on the
[1:45:17] Speaker 3: door and replacing him.
[1:45:17] Speaker 1: I mean, AI four-time scoring champ, but SGA much more
[1:45:21] Speaker 1: efficient scorer. Okay, cool.
[1:45:24] Speaker 9: And I'm getting it done.
[1:45:25] Speaker 3: You can't say that.
[1:45:26] Speaker 4: SGA is better than a lot of guys, man.
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all.
[1:45:29] Speaker 3: Okay, cool. Better than a lot of guys? Okay, yes.
[1:45:33] Speaker 3: Better than the guys that we're naming? I'm not giving
[1:45:35] Speaker 3: him that.
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: You got to let it happen.
[1:45:36] Speaker 3: Yeah. You got to let it happen. I'm not giving.
[1:45:39] Speaker 5: Him that game.
[1:45:40] Speaker 9: He's about to get MVP this year.
[1:45:41] Speaker 3: It's happening.
[1:45:42] Speaker 4: You got to let it happen.
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:45:45] Speaker 9: All right, well, when it happens, I'm just letting you know.
[1:45:46] Speaker 2: Okay, well, we got to see it.
[1:45:48] Speaker 5: But he's knocking on that door being a top five guard.
[1:45:51] Speaker 4: He's number one in the NBA right now? Huh? Is
[1:45:53] Speaker 4: he number one in the NBA right now?
[1:45:54] Speaker 9: Yes.
[1:45:56] Speaker 5: He's the best guard in the NBA. He's the best
[1:45:59] Speaker 5: guard in the NBA right now out of everybody.
[1:46:01] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. You got to disagree with me? No, I
[1:46:07] Speaker 3: said okay.
[1:46:07] Speaker 1: No, I said okay.
[1:46:08] Speaker 3: No, he said, yeah.
[1:46:10] Speaker 9: Right now, he's the best guard right now in the NBA.
[1:46:12] Speaker 3: Yes.
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[1:46:27] Speaker 9: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
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[1:46:30] Speaker 3: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> How is he better?
[1:46:35] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:46:35] Speaker 5: I mean, well, last year he won MVP. He's having
[1:46:37] Speaker 5: a better year than he had last year numbers-wise. He's
[1:46:40] Speaker 5: top five in defense and in points. His team is
[1:46:43] Speaker 5: number one without his second best player on the team.
[1:46:46] Speaker 9: I mean, goddamn. I mean, what else do you want
[1:46:48] Speaker 9: this guy to do?
[1:46:48] Speaker 5: I mean, I know he had this little moment when
[1:46:50] Speaker 5: he was getting boomed on by the San Antonio Spurs,
[1:46:52] Speaker 5: but overall, I mean.
[1:46:54] Speaker 1: Boom what, Mr. B?
[1:46:55] Speaker 3: Boom what?
[1:46:56] Speaker 1: Boom what?
[1:47:00] Speaker 3: I'm not going to disagree with you. No, that's a
[1:47:02] Speaker 3: fair assessment. Eight.
[1:47:04] Speaker 4: I think he's been in the league eight years.
[1:47:06] Speaker 1: Y'all ask the important questions.
[1:47:07] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, eight years.
[1:47:10] Speaker 5: But he's knocking on that door for a lot of guards.
[1:47:12] Speaker 1: Eight seasons. So in eight seasons, Swag, you're talking about
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: four first-team All-NBA selections.
[1:47:18] Speaker 4: But it's the people that have done that, though.
[1:47:20] Speaker 1: Just 27 years old.
[1:47:21] Speaker 3: Jason Tatum done that. And won.
[1:47:24] Speaker 4: But Jason Tatum's not a guard. I would give Jason.
[1:47:26] Speaker 3: Tatum small four, right?
[1:47:28] Speaker 4: Like, the small four position.
[1:47:31] Speaker 2: He's a wing player.
[1:47:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:47:33] Speaker 4: That's okay.
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: But guards, yeah, I'll go with Shea at that. It
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: seems trajectory-wise. We've discussed this before. Okay. But now it's happening.
[1:47:43] Speaker 3: You got to do it again.
[1:47:43] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:47:44] Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
[1:47:45] Speaker 9: If he do it again, I'm clear. If he do
[1:47:46] Speaker 9: it again, he knocking in that top five.
[1:47:48] Speaker 1: If he do it, two straight MVPs, two finals MVPs,
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: two chips in Oklahoma City.
[1:47:53] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:47:54] Speaker 1: Staying the course there.
[1:47:55] Speaker 2: Four straight, four first-team All-NBAs.
[1:47:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
[1:47:59] Speaker 5: That's 530 points.
[1:48:00] Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not taking enough of his play, but the
[1:48:03] Speaker 3: guys who I'm naming that played that position, the point
[1:48:06] Speaker 3: guard or the guard position, there's been some ones. Yeah.
[1:48:11] Speaker 3: There's been some hims. No, for sure.
[1:48:13] Speaker 4: And they still him.
[1:48:14] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:48:14] Speaker 5: They still are.
[1:48:16] Speaker 1: Perhaps the thing I appreciate the most about SGA is
[1:48:18] Speaker 1: his pettiness, but it's very... strategic and calculated. So SGA
[1:48:22] Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks may be friends, countrymen, and Team Canada teammates,
[1:48:26] Speaker 1: but they went at each other throughout the series. So
[1:48:28] Speaker 1: after Shea dropped 42 and 8 dimes in Game 3,
[1:48:31] Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks said he had the reigning MVP in Game 4. Technically, Brooks'
[1:48:35] Speaker 1: statement was accurate. As SGA cooled off, he only had
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: 31 and 8 assists in the series clinching win.
[1:48:41] Speaker 4: So S.J.
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: And Brooks shared a moment on the court after the game,
[1:48:44] Speaker 1: and in his post-game interview, Shea had this to say
[1:48:47] Speaker 1: about Dylan the villain.
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: Knowing Dylan, he's a great competitor, a great guy. No
[1:48:52] Speaker 4: matter what people say about him, he's a really good guy.
[1:48:54] Speaker 4: You get to know him.
[1:48:56] Speaker 7: So, yeah, all that villain stuff doesn't faze me.
[1:48:59] Speaker 3: I know exactly who Dylan is. He had a hell
[1:49:01] Speaker 3: of a series.
[1:49:03] Speaker 4: Yeah, he should keep getting better.
[1:49:05] Speaker 3: I'm proud of him.
[1:49:06] Speaker 1: So we heard SJ say all the villain stuff with
[1:49:09] Speaker 1: Brooks doesn't faze him. A day after the series ended,
[1:49:12] Speaker 1: he took the opportunity to troll Brooks. Similar to Brooks' trolling.
[1:49:19] Speaker 1: So in his first Instagram post, since March 14th, SJ
[1:49:22] Speaker 1: posted a carousel which included a Photoshop picture of the
[1:49:26] Speaker 1: infamous meme of him clowning Brooks after giving him a
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: bucket with the caption, everybody wants to be villainous. Until
[1:49:35] Speaker 1: the brooms come out and the dust settles and you
[1:49:38] Speaker 1: realize who the villain is.
[1:49:40] Speaker 4: He's the Kobe of this generation.
[1:49:42] Speaker 1: As you guys see, Cancun on three. Champ made famous
[1:49:46] Speaker 1: by Nick Van Exel back in 1998. Before the Lakers
[1:49:51] Speaker 1: got swept by the Jazz in the Western Cup final.
[1:49:53] Speaker 3: One, two, three, Cancun.
[1:49:54] Speaker 4: Never, though.
[1:49:55] Speaker 3: You can never say that.
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:49:57] Speaker 3: Relax, please.
[1:50:00] Speaker 2: What's that?
[1:50:01] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[1:50:02] Speaker 5: You're the one saying he's a Kobe of this era?
[1:50:05] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:50:09] Speaker 1: That's it? Kobe of this era?
[1:50:10] Speaker 3: I feel like it.
[1:50:14] Speaker 4: No, no. He was about to say something disrespectful, though.
[1:50:18] Speaker 4: You don't want to repeat what he said. Say if
[1:50:21] Speaker 4: you want me to crash out.
[1:50:23] Speaker 5: I'm not crash out. I'm just saying. Reform to Mr. B.
[1:50:26] Speaker 5: He shoot the ball from a better percentage than Kobe.
[1:50:28] Speaker 5: I say he shoot the ball from a better percentage
[1:50:30] Speaker 5: than Kobe.
[1:50:31] Speaker 3: I'm about to say.
[1:50:31] Speaker 4: More efficient?
[1:50:33] Speaker 3: Now I changed that, bro.
[1:50:35] Speaker 4: His recidivist.
[1:50:38] Speaker 3: I'm Pat Baird.
[1:50:38] Speaker 9: I shot the three better than Dwayne Wade.
[1:50:40] Speaker 1: It was accurate by Pat Baird. That was funny.
[1:50:45] Speaker 10: I think I'm a better receiver.
[1:50:47] Speaker 4: That was funny.
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: That was funny, though.
[1:50:51] Speaker 3: Yes, it was.
[1:50:55] Speaker 1: That is one thing that you did.
[1:50:57] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:50:58] Speaker 3: Better than me. They're just, okay. Next.
[1:51:05] Speaker 4: Shut up.
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: Shut up, man.
[1:51:13] Speaker 4: It's official, though.
[1:51:14] Speaker 1: But what's your reaction to SJH trolling Dylan Brooks with
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: his IG post? Like I said, I do appreciate his pettiness.
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: They got a good relationship, man. Leaf amongst the Canadians. Yeah,
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: we do, but I'm going to still have to pack
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: you up.
[1:51:25] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:51:26] Speaker 1: To all my followers.
[1:51:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: The North remembers.
[1:51:30] Speaker 3: You got to love it.
[1:51:31] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, they're from the same country. They're
[1:51:35] Speaker 5: going to play on the same team together.
[1:51:37] Speaker 4: I mean, it's just.
[1:51:40] Speaker 5: Good to see guys being able to go out there
[1:51:42] Speaker 5: and compete, leave it out there on the floor and
[1:51:44] Speaker 5: still be cool after.
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: Like, you know, I guess at the end of the day.
[1:51:48] Speaker 2: He know who he is.
[1:51:50] Speaker 3: He spend time with him off the floor. They're around
[1:51:52] Speaker 3: each other. He said they don't phase him all the time.
[1:51:56] Speaker 3: We're going to go out and hoop, bro. I'm going
[1:51:58] Speaker 3: to bust your ass while we're doing it.
[1:52:00] Speaker 4: Then we get back home to Canada.
[1:52:05] Speaker 3: That's dope.
[1:52:06] Speaker 1: SGA megastar. Megastar.
[1:52:08] Speaker 3: SGA?
[1:52:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a megastar. Yeah, for sure. We could have
[1:52:13] Speaker 4: seen other stars' personality back in the day. Like what
[1:52:17] Speaker 4: Jordan had in the day, something like that.
[1:52:19] Speaker 3: If Jordan was on Instagram. Yeah, this is dope, bro.
[1:52:22] Speaker 4: This is dope.
[1:52:24] Speaker 3: Burner accounts.
[1:52:25] Speaker 5: You don't think y'all would have been on Instagram back
[1:52:27] Speaker 5: in the early 2000s?
[1:52:28] Speaker 4: Like when y'all was coming up?
[1:52:30] Speaker 9: Y'all would have definitely.
[1:52:31] Speaker 1: You would have had an IG.
[1:52:33] Speaker 9: At the height of y'all career. And all these followers
[1:52:35] Speaker 9: that they get.
[1:52:36] Speaker 5: Just think about all these dudes that got a million
[1:52:38] Speaker 5: followers for being trashed. Ken, you going to the finals
[1:52:43] Speaker 5: two years in a row. You on Instagram talking.
[1:52:46] Speaker 3: They on there now. They on there now talking shit.
[1:52:48] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:52:52] Speaker 3: Reckless, absolutely. Then the 22, 23, 24, 25-year-old me. Oh, no,
[1:52:56] Speaker 3: somebody has to have control of that.
[1:53:01] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: She would have fell off the rails.
[1:53:02] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:53:03] Speaker 3: Twitter and both of them over. Somebody would have total 100% control.
[1:53:08] Speaker 3: He don't even need the password. Just posting, Jake. Don't
[1:53:12] Speaker 3: even give me the password.
[1:53:14] Speaker 4: Your agency, your marketing.
[1:53:16] Speaker 3: Y'all do that for me. For sure, they would have been, hey,
[1:53:19] Speaker 3: fell off the rails, boy.
[1:53:21] Speaker 4: For sure. They on there now.
[1:53:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:53:26] Speaker 5: I don't think AI would have been on there like that.
[1:53:28] Speaker 3: I got all the shit in the beginning, so couldn't
[1:53:29] Speaker 3: nobody use my name. That's the only, it just became
[1:53:32] Speaker 3: a thing. Like, when all the shit first came about,
[1:53:35] Speaker 3: I only did it so couldn't nobody use my name.
[1:53:38] Speaker 3: People told me, go get it. I'm like, I'm not
[1:53:40] Speaker 3: getting on that shit. I'm like, go get it.
[1:53:41] Speaker 1: So can't nobody use your name.
[1:53:43] Speaker 4: You for sure would have did something like that, though.
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: Can't nobody, no, I wouldn't.
[1:53:46] Speaker 4: You did it, though. In the newspaper, it did somebody.
[1:53:49] Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
[1:53:49] Speaker 4: With a t-shirt or something like that?
[1:53:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:53:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, you would have did that.
[1:53:52] Speaker 3: That was trolling in real time. The same thing, though.
[1:53:56] Speaker 3: Something was brought to my attention.
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't need Instagram.
[1:53:59] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:54:00] Speaker 3: I didn't need Instagram. I was trolling in real time.
[1:54:03] Speaker 3: But no, somebody would have had the control. I had
[1:54:05] Speaker 3: an assistant at the time. Dude, hey, I couldn't even
[1:54:10] Speaker 3: get out the car at the club until the table
[1:54:12] Speaker 3: was secure.
[1:54:12] Speaker 2: Like, hey, stay in the car until I got the table.
[1:54:16] Speaker 3: You think they finna give me control over something that.
[1:54:18] Speaker 4: I ain't got?
[1:54:20] Speaker 3: Oh, nah.
[1:54:20] Speaker 4: What was around?
[1:54:21] Speaker 5: Huh?
[1:54:21] Speaker 4: It was Facebook then. MySpace.
[1:54:24] Speaker 3: MySpace. Didn't have one of them.
[1:54:25] Speaker 4: MySpace.
[1:54:26] Speaker 3: Was never on that. Facebook. Hey, never had a MySpace account.
[1:54:29] Speaker 3: And did you ever think about creating a MySpace account? No,
[1:54:32] Speaker 3: never had a MySpace account. Did you ever have FOMO?
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: AOL.
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: He was on AOL. AOL. Instant Messenger. You was an
[1:54:36] Speaker 3: Instant Messenger for sure.
[1:54:38] Speaker 4: I was definitely an Instant Messenger.
[1:54:40] Speaker 3: With the site.
[1:54:40] Speaker 9: You had the Instant Messenger?
[1:54:42] Speaker 3: Yeah. That was text, man. You were still.
[1:54:44] Speaker 9: Texting in the T-mail?
[1:54:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what, but I didn't have a MySpace account.
[1:54:48] Speaker 3: And he had a chirp.
[1:54:50] Speaker 1: The funniest thing about him.
[1:54:50] Speaker 3: He definitely had a chirp. At Nextel, he had the
[1:54:52] Speaker 3: first burgundy joint out.
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[1:54:55] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:54:56] Speaker 3: With the rain toes on? Oh, no. Hey, new cell phones? Yeah, absolutely.
[1:55:01] Speaker 3: As soon as it come out, new car, new phone. Absolutely.
[1:55:04] Speaker 1: The T-mail account? The phone first picture, bro. Kmart, the
[1:55:08] Speaker 1: first T-mail.
[1:55:09] Speaker 4: Then I had to deal with Sprint, too.
[1:55:11] Speaker 2: Man, I had seven numbers.
[1:55:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:55:14] Speaker 4: That's when Sprint made the camera.
[1:55:16] Speaker 3: I had phones everywhere.
[1:55:18] Speaker 9: The first camera phone.
[1:55:19] Speaker 4: The first nudes came through.
[1:55:22] Speaker 3: Man, phones was out, bro.
[1:55:23] Speaker 5: That's when they put that camera on there. The nudes
[1:55:25] Speaker 5: was like.
[1:55:26] Speaker 3: No, in the club? No, I'm taking phones, bro.
[1:55:29] Speaker 5: No, no, I'm saying back there when Sprint put that thing,
[1:55:32] Speaker 5: that camera on there.
[1:55:33] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. This shit here. I was in
[1:55:35] Speaker 3: the club.
[1:55:36] Speaker 2: We was taking people's phones, bro.
[1:55:38] Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying.
[1:55:39] Speaker 3: You tap a picture of me in the club, and
[1:55:41] Speaker 3: there's a good chance you was going to.
[1:55:42] Speaker 2: Listen, I'm going to give.
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: You an option.
[1:55:44] Speaker 2: Either erase the picture or lose your phone.
[1:55:47] Speaker 1: Yo, I would have snuck one on you.
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: But don't let me see. I said if I saw you, right?
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: If I saw you, like this shit....
[1:55:57] Speaker 3: This shit here?
[1:55:59] Speaker 4: It wasn't no video. It was just pictures back then.
[1:56:01] Speaker 4: They couldn't even share the pictures back then.
[1:56:03] Speaker 3: You could just.
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: People don't really appreciate everything you had to do back
[1:56:07] Speaker 1: in the day.
[1:56:07] Speaker 2: People hold on to shit, bro.
[1:56:08] Speaker 3: Trust me. I've seen pictures of me out in places.
[1:56:12] Speaker 3: I'm like, who the fuck took this? Like, dead ass.
[1:56:17] Speaker 3: People send me shit all the time, dog. Like, yo,
[1:56:19] Speaker 3: I saw you in... And it's a picture of me.
[1:56:21] Speaker 4: I'm like.
[1:56:24] Speaker 1: A lot of you youngsters don't remember the chirp that,
[1:56:27] Speaker 1: the walkie-talkie chirp.
[1:56:27] Speaker 3: The video just popped up me at the Rucker eating
[1:56:29] Speaker 3: sunflower seeds. Nigga, the whale over, I'm spitting sunflower seeds
[1:56:32] Speaker 3: in the bag.
[1:56:33] Speaker 2: Like, who the fuck took that picture? The video, like.
[1:56:37] Speaker 3: But nah, when that, camera phones and all that shit
[1:56:39] Speaker 3: first came out, man, that shit was the, y'all.
[1:56:42] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[1:56:42] Speaker 3: I was so paranoid, bruh.
[1:56:44] Speaker 2: Like, damn, I did that? Well, they're like 2008, 2009.
[1:56:47] Speaker 3: The sidekick.
[1:56:48] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:56:48] Speaker 3: Sidekick, I'm talking about the picture shit. Yeah. After taking
[1:56:51] Speaker 3: pictures in, I'm like, right? Yeah. Like, 07, 08, 09,
[1:56:56] Speaker 3: them years.
[1:56:57] Speaker 4: Damn. Right?
[1:56:58] Speaker 3: The game completely changed. Just imagine, man, that shit first,
[1:57:02] Speaker 3: how we was moving, right? Everything was hand-in-hand. We in
[1:57:05] Speaker 3: the club moving a certain way, doing shit. Niggas in
[1:57:08] Speaker 3: the club doing Lord knows what. The sidekick cap. I
[1:57:10] Speaker 3: never had a sidekick. Now you got to worry about
[1:57:12] Speaker 3: a motherfucker taking a picture of you. I had the
[1:57:14] Speaker 3: Wayne Wade sidekick. We need to go back to the sidekicks.
[1:57:17] Speaker 3: The black one? Was it the black one? Let's get
[1:57:19] Speaker 3: a lounge.
[1:57:20] Speaker 1: The white one?
[1:57:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, the white one. Let's get a lounge, bro. Bring
[1:57:24] Speaker 4: day parties back, bro.
[1:57:26] Speaker 1: Let's do lounges.
[1:57:27] Speaker 3: Ooh.
[1:57:27] Speaker 9: Remember that shit, bro? No, I'm down with the lounges.
[1:57:30] Speaker 9: As long as it's not a club, but a lounge
[1:57:31] Speaker 9: with a nice.
[1:57:32] Speaker 5: DJ and got some chicken and waffles.
[1:57:35] Speaker 2: Day party.
[1:57:36] Speaker 4: Remember who you let in. Let's talk, man. All right,
[1:57:38] Speaker 4: let's talk.
[1:57:39] Speaker 3: Let's bring it back.
[1:57:40] Speaker 4: They don't know about us.
[1:57:41] Speaker 5: You see that motherfucker every night.
[1:57:45] Speaker 2: Because y'all do both, though.
[1:57:47] Speaker 7: What?
[1:57:47] Speaker 3: The day party? Yep.
[1:57:50] Speaker 9: One night, we went to three clubs.
[1:57:51] Speaker 3: Remember that?
[1:57:52] Speaker 9: We went to Toxic.
[1:57:53] Speaker 5: Y'all dangerous.
[1:57:55] Speaker 4: Y'all dangerous.
[1:57:56] Speaker 3: Oh, my God, yeah. We went to three. Yeah, we
[1:57:58] Speaker 3: went to that one.
[1:57:59] Speaker 5: And then Greystone at the end. Remember, on Sunday, it
[1:58:02] Speaker 5: was three parties on Sunday.
[1:58:03] Speaker 3: We used to go all three.
[1:58:06] Speaker 4: They was already more mature then.
[1:58:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:58:08] Speaker 2: I was in the spots.
[1:58:09] Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no. Secretly. We ain't see you.
[1:58:13] Speaker 9: We ain't see you, brother.
[1:58:15] Speaker 3: That's what I said. They was more. All the places
[1:58:16] Speaker 3: y'all was in, I was in.
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: You used to go to supper club?
[1:58:20] Speaker 3: What?
[1:58:21] Speaker 4: White couches? Yes. Used to be in there every Tuesday. Yes. Woo!
[1:58:26] Speaker 2: Greystone, same table every Sunday.
[1:58:29] Speaker 9: Okay.
[1:58:30] Speaker 2: I used to go to the gate before it was Greystone.
[1:58:34] Speaker 1: Garden of Eden.
[1:58:34] Speaker 3: Garden of Eden. You name it, bro. My house, play house,
[1:58:39] Speaker 3: my house, all that. Good times.
[1:58:43] Speaker 4: Tito?
[1:58:43] Speaker 3: Warwick on Wednesdays. Hey. He gave us some spots. He
[1:58:48] Speaker 3: gave us some spots. Who? Who wasn't in work? Can't
[1:58:51] Speaker 3: take what we made. They can't forget who we were, man.
[1:58:54] Speaker 3: They can't forget who we were.
[1:58:55] Speaker 4: They can't erase who we were.
[1:58:57] Speaker 3: They can't erase who we were, man. Hey, trust.
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: I was just watching that.
[1:59:00] Speaker 1: That's what they do as well. They do for the
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: under form.
[1:59:04] Speaker 3: I had a car service out here doing my plan.
[1:59:07] Speaker 3: I own a car service.
[1:59:09] Speaker 4: Back down memory lane. See how it is when we
[1:59:13] Speaker 4: talk about OKC? You just say, fuck it, let's talk
[1:59:15] Speaker 4: about the club.
[1:59:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all brought him up.
[1:59:19] Speaker 4: That's how OKC get treated.
[1:59:21] Speaker 2: All right, time to go.
[1:59:22] Speaker 3: All right. All right, now wrap this shit up. What's
[1:59:24] Speaker 3: going on?
[1:59:25] Speaker 9: I got to make my picks.
[1:59:26] Speaker 1: But yeah, before we go, let's wrap up today with
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: our playoff picks. Throughout the postseason, we'll be making team
[1:59:32] Speaker 1: picks using underdogs prediction markets, which you can do as well.
[1:59:35] Speaker 1: Keep a leaderboard of the couch's picks throughout the entire playoffs.
[1:59:38] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the updated standings. If we can, please.
[1:59:41] Speaker 4: Ooh. Shot.
[1:59:43] Speaker 1: Expanded his lead.
[1:59:44] Speaker 3: Now 21-13.
[1:59:44] Speaker 4: Mr. B.
[1:59:46] Speaker 3: He got all three.
[1:59:47] Speaker 1: In second.
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: No, no.
[1:59:48] Speaker 3: He got two out of three. Kenyon jumped to third. 13-12.
[1:59:51] Speaker 4: Gill. Still 2-2.
[1:59:55] Speaker 1: Holding on to fixed play.
[1:59:56] Speaker 3: 9-13.
[1:59:56] Speaker 4: 10-13. They cheated.
[2:00:00] Speaker 3: Still trying to figure out where that Orlando pick came from.
[2:00:03] Speaker 4: They looked at the tape. They looked at the tape,
[2:00:05] Speaker 4: and still, that's when you know they don't give a fuck.
[2:00:09] Speaker 1: You were vetoed by the power company.
[2:00:10] Speaker 3: I'm going to ask Rashad.
[2:00:13] Speaker 4: You're right there, too, because there's losses.
[2:00:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:00:16] Speaker 1: We just keep getting wins. We have three series that
[2:00:19] Speaker 1: could come to an end tonight. Six games, six that
[2:00:22] Speaker 1: have been forced in the first round of this year's
[2:00:23] Speaker 1: playoffs the most since 2014. We will start in Atlanta.
[2:00:27] Speaker 1: Where the Hawks look to keep their season alive, down
[2:00:29] Speaker 1: 3-2 in the series to the Knicks. Knicks coming off
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: two blowout wins after falling 2-1 to the Hawks in
[2:00:35] Speaker 1: the series. Tonight, New York, 58% chance to win the
[2:00:37] Speaker 1: series and close out. Hawks sitting at 43%. Who are
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: we taking? Knicks, Hawks?
[2:00:43] Speaker 4: Knicks. I'm going Knicks.
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: I'm going Knicks.
[2:00:47] Speaker 1: Knicks for clicks. All three Knicks fans. Yeah, I'm going Knicks.
[2:00:51] Speaker 1: Of the Knicks. So in the other series in the
[2:00:53] Speaker 1: East tonight, Celtics look to put an end to the
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: Sixers season in Philly. Philly stayed alive with an impressive
[2:00:58] Speaker 1: fourth quarter of Game 5, now trailing the series 3-2.
[2:01:02] Speaker 1: Hosting the Celtics, Embiid, been doing his thing. Celtics are
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: still big underdogs at home tonight, 33% chance to win. Celtics, 68%
[2:01:12] Speaker 1: chance to win and reach their fifth straight Eastern Conference semis. Celtics, Sixers,
[2:01:16] Speaker 1: Game 6. Who we got?
[2:01:18] Speaker 3: Celtics.
[2:01:19] Speaker 4: Dog, this is tough.
[2:01:21] Speaker 3: Because if they... Get it off at home, man.
[2:01:23] Speaker 1: It's the.
[2:01:25] Speaker 4: I'm going to go Celtics, man.
[2:01:26] Speaker 5: I think they're going to get hot.
[2:01:29] Speaker 4: Don't go Celtics. You don't really believe that.
[2:01:31] Speaker 9: I don't, but they shoot themselves out.
[2:01:33] Speaker 3: Go Philly then. Yeah, I'm going to go Philly.
[2:01:36] Speaker 4: My man.
[2:01:39] Speaker 3: I'm going to go Philly, though. Y'all heard this now,
[2:01:41] Speaker 3: don't you?
[2:01:43] Speaker 2: Listen, man.
[2:01:44] Speaker 3: You go Philly, too.
[2:01:45] Speaker 2: I think I am, man.
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: You should.
[2:01:48] Speaker 3: Think about it. NB is going to be crazy. That's
[2:01:51] Speaker 3: what I'm thinking about. I'm just thinking about NB. They
[2:01:53] Speaker 3: ain't got nobody to guard him. He keeps shooting them
[2:01:55] Speaker 3: motherfucking threes, though.
[2:01:56] Speaker 2: He can go out of issue. I'm going Philly at home.
[2:02:01] Speaker 4: Okay.
[2:02:02] Speaker 2: I'm going Philly at home.
[2:02:04] Speaker 1: Finally, in the Western Conference, Nuggets look to stay on track.
[2:02:07] Speaker 1: I forgot about the Nuggets. And Timberwolves. Timberwolves. Wounded right now.
[2:02:13] Speaker 1: Trying to stay. Keep it going. Have to try and
[2:02:16] Speaker 1: close out without their star, Anthony Edwards. And Dante DiVincenzo.
[2:02:21] Speaker 1: But they do have Io. All three closed out tonight.
[2:02:24] Speaker 1: But he's a game time to send you with calf
[2:02:26] Speaker 1: injury nuggets. Favorite tonight in Minnesota. 69% chance to win T-Wolves. 33%
[2:02:31] Speaker 1: chance to close out the series. That's why you said T-Wolves.
[2:02:35] Speaker 3: Denver.
[2:02:35] Speaker 4: All closed out tonight. Y'all get the weekend rolling.
[2:02:39] Speaker 3: Come on now.
[2:02:40] Speaker 1: Burpee bearer.
[2:02:41] Speaker 4: You got to get the weekend rolling.
[2:02:43] Speaker 2: You know it ain't even a question who I'm going with.
[2:02:46] Speaker 1: Or we'll go bearer. Burpee bearer.
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: Talk about it. We burping babies tonight, baby.
[2:02:50] Speaker 3: Hope I get mine right.
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: 40-point triple-double tonight, baby. We burping babies.
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: 40-point triple-double.
[2:02:55] Speaker 2: 40-point triple-double for Nicole.
[2:02:56] Speaker 3: Ooh.
[2:02:57] Speaker 4: Ooh. Okay. We're going to.
[2:03:00] Speaker 3: Burp a big old seven-two, baby, tonight. Might got to
[2:03:02] Speaker 3: go under, dog.
[2:03:02] Speaker 4: Take that back.
[2:03:03] Speaker 1: Oui, oui.
[2:03:04] Speaker 3: I'm going to take the under on that one.
[2:03:06] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[2:03:08] Speaker 1: Lower on the pickup. Yeah, lower. Lower. Well, appreciate you gentlemen.
[2:03:14] Speaker 1: As always, that wraps up our week here in the arena.
[2:03:17] Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody. In the chat, shout out to
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: everybody on this couch. Everybody pray for the Lakers if
[2:03:23] Speaker 1: you don't mind. As we look to get this game
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: six win advancing next round.
[2:03:27] Speaker 4: Is Ant-Man questionable for the Lakers?
[2:03:29] Speaker 3: Who?
[2:03:29] Speaker 2: That boy Dunn, man.
[2:03:31] Speaker 3: Out. O-U-T.
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: What the fuck?
[2:03:33] Speaker 2: For the foreseeable future.
[2:03:35] Speaker 4: Is Ant-Man playing game six?
[2:03:37] Speaker 1: Chat GPT.
[2:03:39] Speaker 4: But this has been.
[2:03:40] Speaker 2: That man lucky he didn't tear his shit up, man.
[2:03:43] Speaker 1: This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
[2:03:46] Speaker 3: We'll see y'all next week.

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