# Luka's The KING of LA, LeBron & the Sixers look unfair! And The Arena's Perfect Hooper Part 2

An episode of [Gil's Arena](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1689097415), 16 Sep 2026, 1 h 52 min.

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Gilbert Arenas, Evan Turner, Iman Shumpert, Brendan Haywood, and Josiah Johnson bring you the best NBA show on the planet! This episode the cast predicts how Luka Dončić will perform in the 2026 -27. Season after losing weight in the off-season, what LeBron James will do in year 24 with his new crew in Philadelphia, whether or not the 76ers will win at least 51 games, and whether or not the Los Angeles Lakers will win 45 games. Presented by Polymarket - the world's largest prediction market. Use code ARENA when you sign up for a $50 bonus with a qualifying deposit of $10. https://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/ARENA 18+ Only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Trading is risky. 100% loss can occur. See http://polymarket.com/tos for more information. The Polymarket US App serves as an independent software provider and affiliate of Polymarket US and Polymarket Clearing, the CFTC-regulated exchange and clearing organization. Follow Gil's Arena on socials: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gilsarena0/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GilsArena0 Threads - https://www.threads.com/@gilsarena0 Twitter/X - https://x.com/GilsArenaShow Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/gilsarenashow TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gilsarena TimeStamps: 0:00 - The cast gives predictions on Luka's 2026-27 season after losing weight in the offseason 32:02 - Lebron's expectation in year 24 01:24:09 - Will the Sixers win at least 51 games? 01:26:18 - Will the Lakers win at least 45 games? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: So according to reports, Luka, looking like he's been putting
[0:02] Speaker 1: in work this season with his longtime trainer, said to
[0:05] Speaker 1: be in some of the best shape of his career,
[0:07] Speaker 1: weighing around 230 pounds. That's 105 kilos for all the
[0:10] Speaker 1: Euros out there that use.
[0:11] Speaker 2: The metric system.
[0:12] Speaker 1: Averaged 34 points, eight rebounds, eight assists last season. Made
[0:17] Speaker 1: his sixth All-NBA first team. Brandon, when you look at
[0:21] Speaker 1: Luka Doncic coming into this season, his team now, Bron
[0:24] Speaker 1: is gone. Bron is still there. was invited to Slovenia
[0:27] Speaker 1: with the rest of the team to work out.
[0:28] Speaker 2: Come on.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Appreciate it, that Luka. You know, give him a part
[0:31] Speaker 1: of the family. But what are your expectations for Luka
[0:32] Speaker 1: Doncic this season?
[0:34] Speaker 3: The same expectation that he's always had. When Luka's healthy
[0:38] Speaker 3: and Luka's playing and he's right, even when he was
[0:41] Speaker 3: out of shape, he was carrying teams. Now that he's
[0:43] Speaker 3: definitely in the best shape, we know what it's going
[0:45] Speaker 3: to be. Luka's going to be first team All-NBA.
[0:47] Speaker 4: You can book it.
[0:48] Speaker 3: That name's going to be there. You can figure out
[0:50] Speaker 3: who the other.
[0:51] Speaker 2: Four are going to be.
[0:51] Speaker 3: Luka's going to be first-team All-NBA. He's going to be
[0:54] Speaker 3: in the MVP race. The MVP will come down to
[0:57] Speaker 3: how many wins the Lakers have. If the Lakers are
[0:59] Speaker 3: a little bit higher up than we're expecting, he's going
[1:01] Speaker 3: to get the MVP. If the Lakers are a little
[1:03] Speaker 3: bit lower in the play-in, you know they're not going
[1:05] Speaker 3: to try to give it to somebody in the seventh spot.
[1:07] Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that's my expectations
[1:09] Speaker 3: for Luka. First-team All-NBA, in the MVP running.
[1:12] Speaker 2: You know why?
[1:13] Speaker 3: Because anytime he's.
[1:14] Speaker 2: Healthy, that's where he always is.
[1:16] Speaker 3: The boy's cold.
[1:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:17] Speaker 4: 1,000. 64 games last season. You're going to have the
[1:20] Speaker 4: scoring title.
[1:21] Speaker 3: He might get the scoring and the assist title.
[1:22] Speaker 4: And the assist title.
[1:24] Speaker 3: He might get them both.
[1:24] Speaker 5: He's going 15 techs.
[1:28] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[1:29] Speaker 2: Are you doing all that?
[1:29] Speaker 3: I'll let you get a tech.
[1:30] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[1:32] Speaker 4: What's funny is if they're in the fourth, fifth spot,
[1:39] Speaker 4: and he's averaging about 36, 37. He can get MVP.
[1:42] Speaker 4: He's going to get MVP.
[1:43] Speaker 3: We saw that. We saw Joker. Joker's the template. They
[1:45] Speaker 3: gave Joker when he was in, like, I want to
[1:47] Speaker 3: say fourth or fifth.
[1:48] Speaker 4: Well, last year before he got hurt, they were battling for, like,
[1:51] Speaker 4: third or fourth. They were on a run. Like, he
[1:53] Speaker 4: was going to. He was averaging, like, 35, 36.
[1:55] Speaker 2: He should have got MVP there. Yeah.
[1:57] Speaker 4: At the OKC. Averaged 38 in March.
[1:58] Speaker 2: It was over.
[1:59] Speaker 1: But, Gil, 34-8 night last season, Lakers worthy four seed
[2:02] Speaker 1: in Adam Silver's NBA.
[2:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was history up there, though, with the rest.
[2:07] Speaker 4: Now, this is his history. Yeah. Luka's a bad boy.
[2:12] Speaker 2: That's coming.
[2:12] Speaker 4: He's a bad boy. I ain't going to lie. I just.
[2:16] Speaker 2: That West, man. That West is tricky, bro.
[2:19] Speaker 3: We just talked about them making... Don't nobody think they're
[2:22] Speaker 3: going to beat OKC or the Spurs. I didn't say that.
[2:24] Speaker 3: I'm talking about the playoffs, G. Yeah, they're making the playoffs.
[2:27] Speaker 2: Like, Phoenix is bothered. Huh? Huh?
[2:30] Speaker 3: They're going to be above Phoenix.
[2:32] Speaker 4: I get it.
[2:32] Speaker 2: We smacking him. Yeah, 1,000. Listen, I would love to
[2:36] Speaker 2: say that. The same way Luka getting better, everybody in
[2:39] Speaker 2: the league is getting better.
[2:40] Speaker 3: Remember how Luka was looking at Devin Booker? You think
[2:43] Speaker 3: everybody's going to be looking at him? Yeah, Luka not
[2:46] Speaker 3: struggling with him. You don't remember how Luka was looking
[2:47] Speaker 3: at Devin Booker when they put him out? That's the
[2:49] Speaker 3: same way he's going to be looking at him this year. Hey, Devin,
[2:51] Speaker 3: you watching this? Hey, Devin, you watching this, son? He's
[2:53] Speaker 3: not struggling with him.
[2:54] Speaker 2: How is he looking at him?
[2:56] Speaker 4: You see, hey, Devin, you watching this?
[2:59] Speaker 2: Call out Brooks, man. Shit, not Devin Brooks.
[3:02] Speaker 4: That's who got to stop him. Dylan Brooks got to
[3:04] Speaker 4: stop Luka.
[3:05] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. No, Dylan, you see this? I know Dylan
[3:09] Speaker 2: don't like this.
[3:09] Speaker 4: I know Luka, man.
[3:10] Speaker 2: That's why I like this game. It's some people that
[3:12] Speaker 2: don't like each other. Dylan Brooks don't like nobody. Yeah,
[3:15] Speaker 2: but Luka don't care. Luka, you want 45 or 50?
[3:18] Speaker 2: Make sure y'all clip that man doing that and send
[3:21] Speaker 2: that right to Dylan, Joe. What are you going to do?
[3:24] Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Huh?
[3:26] Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
[3:27] Speaker 2: He can't stop Luka. At all.
[3:28] Speaker 4: I didn't say he's.
[3:29] Speaker 2: Nobody says stop Luka. That's what he got to stop. Oh, okay. No,
[3:32] Speaker 2: you don't have to stop Luka. You know what you
[3:34] Speaker 2: have to do? What? Just make the playoffs and be
[3:36] Speaker 2: a higher seed. You don't got to deal with him. Yep. Max.
[3:39] Speaker 4: Possibly.
[3:39] Speaker 2: If we win enough, when are we seeing you?
[3:42] Speaker 4: You got the sun over the lake?
[3:43] Speaker 2: You want to know who taught me that? Bruh.
[3:47] Speaker 3: You at the Suns over the Lakers?
[3:48] Speaker 4: Bruh taught me that.
[3:49] Speaker 2: I know that nigga. He brought, ooh, ooh, ooh. He like,
[3:51] Speaker 2: I ain't worried about him. I'm like, what the fuck
[3:52] Speaker 2: you mean, nigga? He like, shup, they gonna be seventh seed.
[3:56] Speaker 2: We not gonna see nothing.
[3:59] Speaker 4: You worried about a nigga you're not going to have
[4:01] Speaker 4: to see.
[4:01] Speaker 2: Stop watching this tape. Stop watching this tape. They're not
[4:04] Speaker 2: beating Golden State. They barely got in. I don't know
[4:07] Speaker 2: what they're doing. We're not seeing them.
[4:08] Speaker 3: But you can say that when you're brawn and you
[4:10] Speaker 3: know your team is going to finish. We're talking about
[4:11] Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, bro. The Phoenix Suns ain't talking to
[4:13] Speaker 3: nobody like that.
[4:14] Speaker 2: I'm saying they're going to have to see teams at
[4:17] Speaker 2: the bottom. They're going to have to see them. They
[4:19] Speaker 2: might meet them in the middle. The four fives do
[4:21] Speaker 2: play each other.
[4:22] Speaker 5: I'm not going to lie.
[4:23] Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't think that Luke and them are
[4:25] Speaker 2: going to be a 4-5 seed this year. I feel
[4:28] Speaker 2: like y'all are very much disrespecting what Bron brought. We're
[4:31] Speaker 2: going to be 7 seed, 6 seed. Listen, we just
[4:34] Speaker 2: sold for $ 12. 5 billion.
[4:35] Speaker 3: You're getting us in the playoff.
[4:37] Speaker 2: You're getting us in the playoff. Hey, shut up.
[4:38] Speaker 4: You know what?
[4:39] Speaker 3: I'm no Bron hater. I'm not disrespecting what Bron brought
[4:42] Speaker 3: to the team, but I just feel like if Luke
[4:44] Speaker 3: is healthy, I know what he can do. I know
[4:46] Speaker 3: he's capable of carrying a team. And I think that A.R.
[4:49] Speaker 3: is going to step in there by 27, 28 this year.
[4:51] Speaker 2: I think A.R.
[4:51] Speaker 3: Is going to cook.
[4:53] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
[4:54] Speaker 3: I think A.R.
[4:55] Speaker 2: 28 last year. Yeah.
[4:55] Speaker 3: I think A.R.
[4:56] Speaker 2: Is going to cook.
[4:57] Speaker 5: Brown energy came around and it sucked. Man, Luka liked that, bro.
[5:01] Speaker 4: With the Mavericks, bro.
[5:02] Speaker 5: That young group, and he was barely locked in, focused.
[5:05] Speaker 5: He's probably 260 pounds. Didn't even know how to be
[5:07] Speaker 5: a pro yet.
[5:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, and two weeks.
[5:09] Speaker 5: Before the season's over, he got the fifth seed locked
[5:11] Speaker 5: up before the play-in era. He's a little-ass kid doing it.
[5:15] Speaker 5: I mean, he was hooping.
[5:17] Speaker 2: I told you.
[5:18] Speaker 5: But I'm just saying keep him locked in and focused
[5:20] Speaker 5: enough to be healthy. But to show respect to Luka,
[5:23] Speaker 5: I don't think Luka worry about nobody besides his happiness.
[5:26] Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I mean?
[5:28] Speaker 5: In that sense.
[5:29] Speaker 2: Hey, Luka, I don't know what they're talking about. You
[5:31] Speaker 2: better worry about winning. Don't get you a championship.
[5:34] Speaker 5: If I'm coming out with 37-9-8, I'm trying to win.
[5:37] Speaker 4: Don't listen to them quotes, Luka.
[5:39] Speaker 2: The MVP is not going to serve you.
[5:42] Speaker 4: If you get 37-9-8, I understand. I'm going to get
[5:45] Speaker 4: that win.
[5:46] Speaker 2: He's the Lakers. He's going to get a championship. I'm saying,
[5:49] Speaker 2: go get the championship. It's the Lakers. Y'all talking about
[5:51] Speaker 2: they can just make the playoffs.
[5:52] Speaker 1: They were just a 4C last year. That's what I'm saying.
[5:55] Speaker 1: They were just a 4C last year. This is Luka's
[5:58] Speaker 1: team now. Don't get no jerseys.
[5:59] Speaker 2: You lost my whole roster. They didn't lose him.
[6:02] Speaker 4: They let him dip.
[6:02] Speaker 2: We gave Luka the team he wanted.
[6:05] Speaker 3: I'm not really looking at what the team did last
[6:08] Speaker 3: year because.
[6:09] Speaker 4: It's a different team.
[6:10] Speaker 3: It's a different team. It's a different team, but I
[6:13] Speaker 3: think that with Luka on the team, they're just fine.
[6:16] Speaker 1: The expectation for the Lakers is banners, right? Not making
[6:19] Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's what Bron got packed up for.
[6:20] Speaker 4: So what do you think they're going to rank the
[6:22] Speaker 4: Lakers at right now? They're going to have what? 9, 10?
[6:25] Speaker 3: No, about 5, 6.
[6:26] Speaker 2: No.
[6:27] Speaker 4: Media's going to put the Lakers 9 or 10. Because
[6:30] Speaker 4: everybody left.
[6:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[6:32] Speaker 4: And this is why he's going to be MVP. 9-10,
[6:35] Speaker 4: that's the expectation they put on him. It's a sweeter story.
[6:39] Speaker 2: And he's 6-5-4. Oh, my God.
[6:41] Speaker 4: I'm voting for him.
[6:42] Speaker 2: It's a sweeter story.
[6:43] Speaker 4: That's how that works.
[6:43] Speaker 5: And he's due.
[6:45] Speaker 4: That's how Steve Nash won his second one. Because after
[6:48] Speaker 4: he won the first one, Amari Sotomayor was hurt. He
[6:50] Speaker 4: wasn't going to play. They said Steve Nash them. was
[6:53] Speaker 4: going to be towards the bottom. And they were still
[6:55] Speaker 4: number one.
[6:56] Speaker 2: Oh, my God!
[6:57] Speaker 4: That 17 and 10 look like 25 and 12.
[6:59] Speaker 1: But that means something. They got the Lakers slated 5th,
[7:01] Speaker 1: 6th right now. I'm looking at Pauly Market. That means something, though.
[7:04] Speaker 1: Pauly Market know what's going on.
[7:05] Speaker 2: With the prediction market looking like right now.
[7:07] Speaker 3: Pauly Market know what's going on.
[7:09] Speaker 2: Pauly Market know what's going on.
[7:11] Speaker 4: Pauly Market know what's up.
[7:13] Speaker 2: They don't have a vote. Who?
[7:14] Speaker 4: Hey, I know they don't have a vote. They put
[7:18] Speaker 4: they put in that bread of Cheney Alfredo.
[7:19] Speaker 2: I had a vote. We talked about the voters. Hey, man,
[7:21] Speaker 2: we talked about the voters support the sponsors, man. No,
[7:23] Speaker 2: I'm just saying the voters got to vote.
[7:25] Speaker 5: Shit, Polly Market, you hot to me. Voters got to vote.
[7:29] Speaker 2: So they're going to vote.
[7:30] Speaker 4: And then you'll see it from there.
[7:33] Speaker 1: So then you give a look at his extension. We're
[7:35] Speaker 1: going to build the team in your image, give you
[7:37] Speaker 1: what you want.
[7:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:38] Speaker 1: Get Walker Kessler, Quinn Grimes. This big overhaul, we had
[7:41] Speaker 1: to hear about it all summer. And you're sitting here
[7:43] Speaker 1: talking to me about making the playoffs.
[7:45] Speaker 4: Bro, bro, wait.
[7:46] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[7:48] Speaker 4: The nigga left, okay?
[7:50] Speaker 2: All right?
[7:51] Speaker 4: Don't try to throw all that negativity or so over here.
[7:54] Speaker 4: Don't be throwing all that, trying to put all this
[7:56] Speaker 4: expectation on a team.
[7:58] Speaker 2: Your business is gone.
[7:59] Speaker 4: Worry about when we get to Philly.
[8:01] Speaker 2: So why was that expectation there for year 23, but
[8:04] Speaker 2: it's not there for you? What I'm saying is don't
[8:06] Speaker 2: you see our roster?
[8:08] Speaker 4: Don't be trying to pretend that we're supposed to make
[8:10] Speaker 4: it to the championship.
[8:10] Speaker 2: That's the roster he wanted. Hey, hey, hey. MVP competition. Hey, hey, hey.
[8:16] Speaker 4: Don't be trying to make the milk bad today by
[8:19] Speaker 4: putting all this expectation. Oh, Luka got what he wanted.
[8:22] Speaker 2: He got Walker Kessler. That's what he wanted. Y'all supposed
[8:26] Speaker 2: to be the number two seed. No, damn well we're
[8:28] Speaker 2: going to be second. This is what you wanted, Luka, right?
[8:30] Speaker 2: Get Brian out of here. That's my squad now.
[8:33] Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't say come back with Walker Kessler.
[8:35] Speaker 5: He was like, come back with, like.
[8:37] Speaker 2: Something like that. God, there's someone that would be good. No,
[8:40] Speaker 2: this ain't the— I' m in the hemi.
[8:43] Speaker 4: You see this, man? You see the energy of it?
[8:45] Speaker 2: This don't sound— Oh, you got Walker Kessler.
[8:47] Speaker 4: Now, get it there.
[8:48] Speaker 2: No, he's— He is the LeBron fan.
[8:49] Speaker 4: He will, for sure. He's going to mark you with that.
[8:54] Speaker 4: He's a Bron fan, so, you know, he was in Cleveland, Miami, Cleveland,
[8:59] Speaker 4: and then came to L.A.
[9:00] Speaker 2: Now he's over in Philly.
[9:02] Speaker 5: Still here?
[9:03] Speaker 2: Still here protecting Bronny's legacy.
[9:05] Speaker 5: He's a champion.
[9:06] Speaker 4: But in all sincerity, though. I'm not against it. I
[9:09] Speaker 4: get what you said. Yeah, we want more people. You
[9:10] Speaker 4: definitely wanted Jokic. I get that.
[9:13] Speaker 2: You always wanted Jokic. They've been trying to get Walker
[9:16] Speaker 2: Kessler for a while, though. You give up two first
[9:19] Speaker 2: pick swaps for him. Stretching the floor, good hands, able
[9:21] Speaker 2: to catch the lob.
[9:23] Speaker 4: You know what to do. You know his role. We
[9:24] Speaker 4: got it.
[9:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we're going to go get like Wimby or
[9:28] Speaker 2: Paulo Banchero. Yeah, we need one more. That's who we're getting.
[9:31] Speaker 2: Y'all not getting one. Who y'all getting? Damn, how much
[9:32] Speaker 2: help does y'all get? Y'all getting Wimby?
[9:34] Speaker 4: See, this is the difference.
[9:35] Speaker 2: Wimby, real life, is not leaving.
[9:38] Speaker 4: Nah, he not. Nah, I mean, it's first.
[9:40] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
[9:41] Speaker 4: He going to own half of San Antonio. It's not.
[9:43] Speaker 4: And his legacy. It's the man.
[9:45] Speaker 2: It's the legacy. It's the person. No, it's the legacy.
[9:48] Speaker 4: Fuck all that.
[9:49] Speaker 2: It's my daddy ain't going to accept me doing that.
[9:52] Speaker 2: My people at home ain't going to accept me doing that.
[9:54] Speaker 2: I ain't doing that shit. He won't even promote pop
[9:58] Speaker 2: because he really principled on that.
[10:00] Speaker 4: That's what I'll be talking about. That's why the championship
[10:03] Speaker 4: basketball history has shown that if I want to be
[10:07] Speaker 4: in a group of three or four, Tim Duncan, but
[10:11] Speaker 4: they don't use it, or Kobe too, if I want
[10:13] Speaker 4: to be in that category, I have to stay here,
[10:16] Speaker 4: win it all here, so he can't leave.
[10:20] Speaker 2: Who? Brimby. He don't want to leave. It don't matter.
[10:23] Speaker 2: He can't leave.
[10:25] Speaker 1: He took $ 50 million less to punish himself for losing
[10:27] Speaker 1: the finals.
[10:28] Speaker 4: He took $ 50 million less?
[10:30] Speaker 2: To punish himself for losing the finals.
[10:32] Speaker 4: I don't like niggas like that.
[10:36] Speaker 2: Why?
[10:36] Speaker 4: You can't trust him.
[10:38] Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson took like a hundred mil less to make
[10:41] Speaker 2: sure he had a squad around him.
[10:43] Speaker 5: I'm not against that. I'm rocking with that for sure.
[10:45] Speaker 5: I think the Draymond Green conversation when he's like, bro,
[10:47] Speaker 5: basketball is more booming than ever and we're having conversations
[10:50] Speaker 5: of the future and the NBA taking lesser.
[10:53] Speaker 4: To do whatever.
[10:53] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[10:54] Speaker 5: I feel as though it's dope, it's cool and shit,
[10:57] Speaker 5: but you earn that bread. Obviously, you want to build
[11:00] Speaker 5: a team around it, but we hyping up the future
[11:02] Speaker 5: of basketball to take lesser.
[11:03] Speaker 1: But I feel like he don't think he earned that
[11:05] Speaker 1: bread because he didn't accomplish the goal he wanted.
[11:07] Speaker 2: That's the dumbest shit I ever heard.
[11:08] Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, no, no.
[11:09] Speaker 2: Now you have nobody around you.
[11:10] Speaker 4: Like, you know what?
[11:11] Speaker 2: I'm going to penalize.
[11:12] Speaker 5: Like, you can't even. I hope my friends, when they
[11:14] Speaker 5: hear me talk bad about myself, they be like, stop, dog.
[11:17] Speaker 5: But to hear me say, you know what, bro? I
[11:19] Speaker 5: played so bad this week, I'm going to give back
[11:21] Speaker 5: $ 50 million.
[11:23] Speaker 4: That's never... That's not what he did, though. I don't
[11:26] Speaker 4: want to... It sounded like that. That's not.
[11:28] Speaker 2: He didn't raise his hand and say, I played bad,
[11:30] Speaker 2: so I'm going to give you all that.
[11:31] Speaker 5: But he's out of 50 million, right?
[11:33] Speaker 2: He's out of 50 million saying, I want to better
[11:35] Speaker 2: the team around me. If I'm with me, who could
[11:38] Speaker 2: you go get? Like, it was a fluke.
[11:40] Speaker 5: Like, when we said better, like, go get one more
[11:42] Speaker 5: shooter maybe, bro, but I'd give up 3 million, but 50?
[11:46] Speaker 2: Like, I'm with you. Wait, wait, wait.
[11:48] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[11:48] Speaker 2: Am I wrong for saying that?
[11:49] Speaker 4: Yes. Bro, they were supposed to win the finals this
[11:51] Speaker 4: year alone. They just tweaked.
[11:53] Speaker 2: Without a doubt.
[11:54] Speaker 6: Right.
[11:54] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, bro. Can I ask you all a question?
[11:56] Speaker 4: If I was six feet and I was dressed.
[11:57] Speaker 2: I would like for my team to be able to
[11:59] Speaker 2: get a little bit of money so all my teammates
[12:01] Speaker 2: don't fucking hate me for eating up the cap.
[12:04] Speaker 4: Oh, there it is.
[12:05] Speaker 2: He's playing a whole game. There we go. You took 25%
[12:08] Speaker 2: instead of 30. There we go. That's.
[12:09] Speaker 3: That's.
[12:10] Speaker 4: That's about minding your business, staying in your role.
[12:11] Speaker 2: That's the problem. What's the problem?
[12:14] Speaker 4: The false narrative. that has been put on the player themselves.
[12:21] Speaker 4: Millionaires are taking pay cuts for billionaires.
[12:25] Speaker 2: Speak on it.
[12:27] Speaker 4: So you want to win, right?
[12:30] Speaker 2: We want him. We want him. That's your boy? How
[12:35] Speaker 2: about this?
[12:35] Speaker 4: You take 20 million less so we can get him.
[12:39] Speaker 4: Because I don't want to come out of pocket while
[12:42] Speaker 4: we just watch. A man who's getting in trouble today saying,
[12:48] Speaker 4: I want you so bad.
[12:51] Speaker 2: I got you. 50 million.
[12:53] Speaker 4: I got you. I'm going to give you some of
[12:55] Speaker 4: this boom, boom, boom under the table. So don't go
[12:57] Speaker 4: against it. See, none of them care about spending the
[12:59] Speaker 4: money because there's a cap that makes us all play
[13:04] Speaker 4: on the same playing field, but we all don't make
[13:06] Speaker 4: the same cheddar.
[13:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
[13:08] Speaker 4: If I got 16 billion, you got one. I should
[13:12] Speaker 4: be able to outbid you. But these rules of this
[13:16] Speaker 4: cap makes us so I can't bully everybody. So now
[13:21] Speaker 4: it's like, well, if I don't want to pay you
[13:23] Speaker 4: your money, oh, I got this cap, cap, cap.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Then the fans is like, well, you got to take
[13:27] Speaker 2: a pay cut.
[13:28] Speaker 5: Now they arguing second apron. I'm scared of second apron.
[13:30] Speaker 5: It's like, bro, you got a bajillion. This ain't your
[13:32] Speaker 5: number one gig. You got a bajillion dollars. And you
[13:36] Speaker 5: finna go get it back.
[13:37] Speaker 2: And they don't care.
[13:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, go steal elsewhere like you been doing.
[13:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, just get eight. Just give me some of that
[13:42] Speaker 2: property you own back there.
[13:43] Speaker 4: God damn it.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Or a watch. Give me the Brunson. Give me the Brunson.
[13:47] Speaker 4: I give you $ 100 million on paper. I like the Hamptons.
[13:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. The South Side. So I can still sound hood.
[13:57] Speaker 2: What you saying?
[13:58] Speaker 3: What you saying Brunson did?
[14:00] Speaker 4: He had it.
[14:00] Speaker 2: Nothing.
[14:01] Speaker 4: He didn't do nothing.
[14:02] Speaker 2: He didn't do nothing. Gilbert Arenas finds out. He didn't
[14:04] Speaker 2: do nothing at all. He didn't do shit. He won
[14:06] Speaker 2: a championship.
[14:07] Speaker 4: That's what he did. All right, well, let's bring it
[14:09] Speaker 4: back to the Lakers real quick. Madison Square Garden.
[14:12] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, bro, but to give up $ 150 million,
[14:15] Speaker 5: let's not start making that normal.
[14:17] Speaker 4: Let's not normalize it. But they wanted to be normal.
[14:20] Speaker 5: I'm talking brother to brother.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Hey, listen.
[14:23] Speaker 3: I'm with you. I don't like seeing nobody give up
[14:26] Speaker 3: that much money, especially you get old.
[14:28] Speaker 2: And you start realizing what that really is.
[14:30] Speaker 4: Like, hold on.
[14:31] Speaker 3: So if he's giving back $ 50 million, especially somebody that
[14:35] Speaker 3: don't really need the $ 50 million, That's 50 just earning
[14:37] Speaker 3: interest every year. So, like, man, that interest on 50
[14:41] Speaker 3: alone is, what, about 5 mil? You doing that annually? Man,
[14:45] Speaker 3: so you giving up 50, but you giving up way
[14:47] Speaker 3: more than 50.
[14:48] Speaker 2: And then when you ask him to give up 50,
[14:49] Speaker 2: it's not business.
[14:51] Speaker 3: Evan, I don't want to normalize, hey, guys, you should
[14:54] Speaker 3: give that back. No, my job was the ball and
[14:56] Speaker 3: be the best I can be.
[14:57] Speaker 2: I'm not normalizing. Hold on.
[14:58] Speaker 3: Your job as the GM is to figure out the cap.
[15:01] Speaker 3: That's not my job as a player.
[15:03] Speaker 2: And let me say this as a role player.
[15:04] Speaker 5: Hey, bro, when it come down to it, bro, know
[15:07] Speaker 5: your role, star in your role, and shut your mouth, G. Like,
[15:10] Speaker 5: when it come down to it, big fella, he giving 24, 12,
[15:13] Speaker 5: 3 in 30 minutes. It's like when I used to
[15:17] Speaker 5: play with Dane. Like, we can play, buddy carrying me
[15:20] Speaker 5: across the Atlantic.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Straight up.
[15:21] Speaker 2: And I'm talking about, hey, champ, give us some bread. Like,
[15:24] Speaker 2: hell no, I'm doing everything. It's not none of my business.
[15:27] Speaker 5: And we have to start, not in a sense, you
[15:29] Speaker 5: start to make people seem like bad guys and be like, yo,
[15:31] Speaker 5: take a hometown.
[15:33] Speaker 4: You're not from here.
[15:34] Speaker 5: When we sit there, you're talking to other players, other
[15:36] Speaker 5: players manning the dude while we popping. That boy in
[15:39] Speaker 5: two years single-handedly got the trap back jumping.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:42] Speaker 5: And we're talking about, yo, you need to sacrifice.
[15:44] Speaker 4: Nope. We're talking about, I'm carrying you, my guy. You
[15:46] Speaker 4: finna be a legend. All because I was born.
[15:49] Speaker 5: We need to like, it's funny, but it's not all
[15:52] Speaker 5: because I exist and you drafted the right type of way.
[15:55] Speaker 2: You didn't get the.
[15:57] Speaker 5: Pacers type of situation where it's a fifth pick and
[15:59] Speaker 5: you get like, no, I existed. And now it's going
[16:02] Speaker 5: to be red panty night for everybody. Everybody's going to
[16:04] Speaker 5: be rich for the next 15 years. And you're talking
[16:06] Speaker 5: about cut? That's why LeBron get mad. Like, know who
[16:09] Speaker 5: you are, but at the same time, like, we all
[16:11] Speaker 5: on the ship for one reason. When you go to
[16:13] Speaker 5: those NBA, like, meetings in the summertime, you comprehend, man,
[16:16] Speaker 5: how we advertising the top five people. Even when you
[16:19] Speaker 5: look at the Jeremy Lin situation back in the day. Hey, man,
[16:22] Speaker 5: this game global. And why we keep showing all these
[16:24] Speaker 5: Jeremy Lin highlights. The more he, better he do, the
[16:27] Speaker 5: better he do for our business. And you comprehend that.
[16:30] Speaker 5: The value in what you're bringing, but when it comes
[16:32] Speaker 5: down to position and as a group, know your role
[16:35] Speaker 5: and call it a day, bruh. Hey, when we sit there,
[16:37] Speaker 5: I can probably get 20. Big dog, I'm getting 18.
[16:41] Speaker 5: But as long as you good, I know why I'm great, bruh.
[16:43] Speaker 5: If Luka go down, the Lakers is done. It's unwatchable TV.
[16:46] Speaker 5: When Kobe was hurt for three years, what was it?
[16:49] Speaker 5: Unwatchable TV. So when you do that value, let's stop
[16:51] Speaker 5: playing the hell out of crazy by talking to our
[16:53] Speaker 5: people about being like, yo, these people treat you like
[16:55] Speaker 5: they're your partner and everything else like that. Respectfully, OG.
[16:59] Speaker 5: Fuck you, pay me. And that has to be normal
[17:01] Speaker 5: as opposed to a little black dude giving up $ 100 million.
[17:04] Speaker 2: At some point, there's going to have to take a
[17:07] Speaker 2: league full of players that when that CBA come up, say,
[17:10] Speaker 2: we not playing for three years. That's a problem. Listen, though,
[17:16] Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm saying the rules are already
[17:19] Speaker 2: in place. The game is unfair. We been knew the
[17:22] Speaker 2: shit was rigged when we was kids. I wasn't no
[17:25] Speaker 2: dumb nigga. I saw what was going on. Why they
[17:28] Speaker 2: got a salary cap? Baseball don't got no fucking salary cap.
[17:30] Speaker 2: Why we got to go to college?
[17:32] Speaker 4: Why we got to do that?
[17:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Why they ain't got it? I been knew
[17:35] Speaker 2: it was rigged. I seen it. It was up.
[17:37] Speaker 4: The jig been up.
[17:38] Speaker 2: But I want to win. I want to play. And
[17:41] Speaker 2: I want to win. Because it'll be two teams. It's unfair.
[17:44] Speaker 2: But this game is better. It'll be two teams.
[17:47] Speaker 4: That's why there's a salary cap. Yeah.
[17:49] Speaker 2: It'll be two teams. Yeah.
[17:51] Speaker 4: Lakers, New York Knicks.
[17:55] Speaker 2: So?
[17:56] Speaker 4: That's what they don't want. But I'm saying... If there
[17:59] Speaker 4: was no salary cap.
[18:00] Speaker 2: If there's no salary cap, what do you mean?
[18:02] Speaker 4: If there's no salary cap, there's plenty of owners that
[18:04] Speaker 4: could go.
[18:05] Speaker 2: They're buying.
[18:06] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[18:07] Speaker 2: If there's no salary cap, you're telling me... Does that
[18:10] Speaker 2: mean we got to leave? Does that mean.
[18:14] Speaker 4: I'll be forgetting that the Clippers.
[18:16] Speaker 2: Because it is the Clippers.
[18:18] Speaker 4: They got that rich man over there.
[18:19] Speaker 3: There's a bunch of rich men.
[18:20] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[18:21] Speaker 4: There's a bunch of rich men over there. And there's
[18:23] Speaker 4: a bunch of rich teams. And Golden State because they got...
[18:28] Speaker 4: Silicon Valley behind them. So they can do whatever they want.
[18:32] Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying.
[18:35] Speaker 4: At some point, the player matters.
[18:37] Speaker 2: Yes, I'm rich. But my city's richer.
[18:42] Speaker 4: So I can convince Silicon Valley to invest and bring
[18:45] Speaker 4: that money in here. So there's a takeover. So there's
[18:49] Speaker 4: a reason there's a salary cap.
[18:51] Speaker 2: So whenever there's a lockout... But why not for.
[18:53] Speaker 4: Baseball, though? Whenever there's a lockout... But why not for baseball?
[18:56] Speaker 4: It's because of the owners don't want to share. Has
[18:59] Speaker 4: nothing to do with the fucking players.
[19:00] Speaker 2: You hear what I'm saying, though?
[19:01] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. Why baseball could figure it out, though? How many
[19:04] Speaker 4: teams win in baseball? Only one that we care about good.
[19:09] Speaker 2: Yeah. Dodgers, New York. There's a reason there's only a
[19:12] Speaker 2: few teams that's always... That gets the best players that
[19:16] Speaker 2: Chicago won.
[19:17] Speaker 4: So I don't want to hear that shit.
[19:18] Speaker 2: When? Huh? When? When we won in Cleveland. I don't
[19:22] Speaker 2: give a fuck how long it took. There's going to
[19:24] Speaker 2: be a few here and there, but for the most part,
[19:26] Speaker 2: everything is structured for certain teams to win always. That's fine.
[19:30] Speaker 4: It just happens like that.
[19:30] Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, why the players getting more access
[19:34] Speaker 2: to the money in the MLB... then in the league.
[19:38] Speaker 2: At the top, the top level MLB. We know why,
[19:41] Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. But we still signed our ass up.
[19:45] Speaker 2: We could just go start our own league.
[19:48] Speaker 4: But we're not going to do that.
[19:49] Speaker 2: Because we want to be in the league Jerry Westman
[19:52] Speaker 2: played in.
[19:53] Speaker 1: Across the board, though, I feel like NBA players get more.
[19:56] Speaker 4: Technically.
[19:57] Speaker 2: The top level, the Shohei's and them dudes is getting big, Brad,
[19:59] Speaker 2: but you got to think.
[20:00] Speaker 4: About all the dudes. If you take away them soccer
[20:04] Speaker 4: players that's playing over in.
[20:08] Speaker 2: In, uh... Everywhere. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
[20:13] Speaker 2: Middle East. Middle East. Yeah.
[20:15] Speaker 4: You take them out and it's just salary cap money. Remember,
[20:21] Speaker 4: we're making, there's guys in our league making 58 something
[20:23] Speaker 4: million dollars. When you break down some of them MLB contracts,
[20:28] Speaker 4: remember the 10, 10 years. Yeah.
[20:31] Speaker 2: They're making less.
[20:32] Speaker 5: And also, too, it'd be 162 games.
[20:34] Speaker 2: You're still not here.
[20:35] Speaker 4: So when you talk about the top 10 most athletes,
[20:39] Speaker 4: the NBA has about six of them.
[20:41] Speaker 2: Listen, we got 12 players on each team, 12 to
[20:44] Speaker 2: 15 guys. The MLB got way more players, and they
[20:48] Speaker 2: all getting these deals. That's cool. What I'm saying is
[20:53] Speaker 2: the NBA could pay all of us with no cap.
[20:56] Speaker 2: You could go get Evo and still give him his bread.
[21:00] Speaker 2: I really shouldn't have to take a pay cut. But
[21:03] Speaker 2: we don't have to. We do, though. Or else you
[21:06] Speaker 2: find yourself in Kaminga's situation. No.
[21:10] Speaker 5: Benedict Mather and Anthony Simon. Real talk.
[21:14] Speaker 2: Like, I could have been a bitch ass nigga and
[21:16] Speaker 2: just been like, hey, bro, I want to sign this
[21:17] Speaker 2: to go back to Cleveland to go to war against
[21:19] Speaker 2: Golden State. I want to go try and take some
[21:21] Speaker 2: money somewhere else. Been sat for a while. Somebody be like,
[21:24] Speaker 2: we want to give you this. I could have sat out,
[21:26] Speaker 2: end up coming back for four million. Fuck up my own.
[21:29] Speaker 4: Let me be agent. I'll get you just.
[21:31] Speaker 5: You know he's afraid of the contract.
[21:33] Speaker 4: I'm afraid of the contract. As soon as I get
[21:35] Speaker 4: in there, I'm like, hey, man, look, y'all got $ 5
[21:36] Speaker 4: million on the books, but there's this extra land over
[21:39] Speaker 4: here that's another $ 6 million because he's worth $ 11. Come
[21:43] Speaker 4: up off that property.
[21:43] Speaker 3: And the helicopter.
[21:44] Speaker 2: With the helicopter.
[21:45] Speaker 4: With the helicopter. And the house. Everybody ain't coming here talking.
[21:48] Speaker 2: Y'all talking regular talk with them GMs.
[21:52] Speaker 4: Them GMs are just crunch numbers. You come back with
[21:55] Speaker 4: this like old fella in Detroit. Hey, buddy, there's a
[21:59] Speaker 4: lot of land up there that's empty. Think about after
[22:03] Speaker 4: the game. If you can't get the $ 20 million on paper.
[22:11] Speaker 2: Downtown look dusty.
[22:13] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 20 years from now, somebody's going
[22:15] Speaker 4: to want to clear it up.
[22:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, you give me a poor flat and a nice flat.
[22:18] Speaker 4: And you owe me land. Come on. Let it go.
[22:20] Speaker 2: Come on. Start speaking their language. Real talk. Real talk.
[22:24] Speaker 4: Kawhi understood that.
[22:25] Speaker 2: And I can tell you this, when you get caught,
[22:27] Speaker 2: it's only $ 700, 000.
[22:27] Speaker 4: On Real Talk.
[22:28] Speaker 2: That's it.
[22:29] Speaker 4: I'll take that fine. I'll take that fine.
[22:32] Speaker 2: It's like a good deal. It's like a good deal
[22:34] Speaker 2: to me. I can see a good deal from all
[22:36] Speaker 2: the way. I'll be like, I got to learn. Real Talk.
[22:38] Speaker 2: I got to learn. You keep tracking me. I got
[22:40] Speaker 2: to learn.
[22:41] Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm raw.
[22:42] Speaker 2: I'm dead raw. I take that penalty every time.
[22:45] Speaker 4: I'm so raw. I'm so raw.
[22:47] Speaker 5: I'm going to swipe my card. When I heard $ 700, 000,
[22:50] Speaker 5: I'm like, that's it?
[22:51] Speaker 2: That's it? They would have had it two days.
[22:54] Speaker 4: Whoa. Wire.
[22:56] Speaker 2: Thank you, boss.
[22:57] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[22:58] Speaker 2: You swear to God. No double jeopardy.
[22:59] Speaker 4: No jail time.
[23:00] Speaker 2: That's it?
[23:01] Speaker 3: Kawhi better be glad David Stern ain't still the commissioner.
[23:04] Speaker 2: What?
[23:04] Speaker 3: Hey, listen, if David Stern was the commissioner.
[23:07] Speaker 2: He would have had Kawhi's braids.
[23:09] Speaker 3: David Stern would have suspended Kawhi for the full season.
[23:12] Speaker 2: Braids would have.
[23:16] Speaker 3: Been gone.
[23:17] Speaker 2: No.
[23:17] Speaker 3: David Stern was a little miniature gangster now.
[23:20] Speaker 4: First of all, Barber wouldn't have said no.
[23:22] Speaker 2: That's how I got it. You remember, they had an investigation. Yeah.
[23:26] Speaker 4: It's my duty to find it or not.
[23:31] Speaker 2: Right?
[23:32] Speaker 4: I'm the commissioner. I can say I found some shit
[23:35] Speaker 4: or I can say I didn't. So are you going
[23:37] Speaker 4: to take this deal and we're going to keep it
[23:38] Speaker 4: under the table or are you going to say fuck
[23:40] Speaker 4: me again? It's your choice.
[23:43] Speaker 2: It's your choice.
[23:44] Speaker 4: You know personally how that works out. It's your choice.
[23:47] Speaker 3: David Stern rolled over in his grave right now.
[23:51] Speaker 2: Mad as hell.
[23:52] Speaker 4: What did Bomber say?
[23:53] Speaker 2: I'm going to fight it.
[23:56] Speaker 4: David Stern, you ain't fighting none of it. You're going
[23:58] Speaker 4: to sell this team.
[23:59] Speaker 2: That's David Stern. It would have went to Bomber. You're
[24:01] Speaker 2: going to sell this team or you're going to take it. Period.
[24:04] Speaker 3: David Stern moving in totally. David Stern used to move
[24:07] Speaker 3: like a mob boss.
[24:08] Speaker 2: What?
[24:09] Speaker 4: I was there. I was there. Oh, yeah. I forgot.
[24:12] Speaker 4: I forgot y'all had running. Yo, what was that like?
[24:15] Speaker 2: He was crazy in person? You know me.
[24:18] Speaker 4: I done looked at every.
[24:18] Speaker 2: Listen. Listen. Listen. No, I know, but I'm sorry. He
[24:21] Speaker 2: ain't never.
[24:21] Speaker 4: When I got in trouble, I even told Javar. Let
[24:24] Speaker 4: me talk. What David said.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Shut up. So I heard him.
[24:29] Speaker 4: Do his little talking. He said, yeah, I think you
[24:32] Speaker 4: 50 games, you know, 50 games, rest of the season,
[24:37] Speaker 4: go enjoy the vacation. And then end of this, I mean,
[24:42] Speaker 4: beginning of next year, clean slate.
[24:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:46] Speaker 4: So I've been reading.
[24:48] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:49] Speaker 4: So the most that's been has been three games. Only
[24:53] Speaker 4: time someone got seven, he shot that gun outside of
[24:55] Speaker 4: the club. But NBA property is a plane. NBA property
[24:58] Speaker 4: is a bus. This is the two-time person. He only
[25:00] Speaker 4: got three games.
[25:02] Speaker 2: Unloaded. No witnesses.
[25:05] Speaker 4: I said I did it.
[25:07] Speaker 2: I said they were mine.
[25:07] Speaker 4: I can honestly say they wasn't. There's no fingerprints on it. Nothing.
[25:12] Speaker 4: I said it was mine. So I'm only thinking, I'm.
[25:16] Speaker 2: Thinking one game. But if you want to give me three...
[25:20] Speaker 2: Three to five.
[25:21] Speaker 4: I can do that.
[25:22] Speaker 2: I can do that.
[25:23] Speaker 4: I can see that.
[25:23] Speaker 2: I can do that. I can see that.
[25:24] Speaker 3: Stern probably stood up on his desk and slapped you.
[25:27] Speaker 2: I'm trying to play the Lakers. I can sit down
[25:29] Speaker 2: and play the Lakers. That's what you went with. What
[25:31] Speaker 2: did he start to say, man? That was real comedy.
[25:34] Speaker 2: You know how you look at the Lakers of ours.
[25:40] Speaker 2: He looked me dead in with the....
[25:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, so like I said, 50 games. You just locked
[25:49] Speaker 4: your Adidas deal, right?
[25:50] Speaker 2: I was like, yeah. He said, you got.
[25:54] Speaker 4: About $ 88 million left? Yeah, carry a couple of ones,
[25:59] Speaker 4: but yeah. Yeah, so I can go take that too.
[26:01] Speaker 4: He didn't say that. He said, so if you decide
[26:05] Speaker 4: to fight this, the suspension that I'm going to give you,
[26:08] Speaker 4: I'm going to take your contract. Yeah, I probably will.
[26:13] Speaker 4: I probably will. He said, and I don't want to
[26:16] Speaker 4: hear nothing about it. Go on, go on vacation.
[26:19] Speaker 3: Like I said, No, y'all ain't, see, you weren't in
[26:25] Speaker 3: the place.
[26:25] Speaker 2: I was, I was.
[26:27] Speaker 3: Did you have any teammates ever get in trouble? No,
[26:29] Speaker 3: when David Stern called you, it was a different type
[26:31] Speaker 3: of energy. And he was letting you know, I got
[26:34] Speaker 3: all the calls. Remember when old boy from our team
[26:36] Speaker 3: wasn't standing for the national anthem? So we had a
[26:39] Speaker 3: guy that was running to the bat during the national anthem.
[26:43] Speaker 3: David Stern found out about it. You better salute this country.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:47] Speaker 3: Hey, man, that's how he was moving David Stern. It
[26:50] Speaker 3: got the media was about to drop the story David
[26:52] Speaker 3: Stern called buddy said hey, listen, I Need you out
[26:55] Speaker 3: there for the national anthem But he said listen it
[26:59] Speaker 3: because at that time we didn't have any language in
[27:01] Speaker 3: the contract that said you got it He said listen,
[27:02] Speaker 3: I'm not sitting down like my daughter do a roof.
[27:04] Speaker 2: I'm in the back.
[27:05] Speaker 3: I don't got to be out there There's no there's
[27:07] Speaker 3: no language that says whoopty whoopty whoo David Stern said
[27:10] Speaker 3: I don't think you hearing me I'm going to find
[27:14] Speaker 3: you and dare. I'm going to find you. I'm going
[27:16] Speaker 3: to suspend you. I'm going to dare the Players Association
[27:18] Speaker 3: to come after me. They've got to fight to get
[27:20] Speaker 3: all your money back. And then after that, when your
[27:23] Speaker 3: contract is up, you'll never work in this league again,
[27:26] Speaker 3: and I'll make sure of it. Buddy was out there
[27:27] Speaker 3: like the last boy.
[27:29] Speaker 2: Oh, say, can you see? Singing the second verse. I'm
[27:33] Speaker 2: just telling you, that's how David Stern moved. David Stern
[27:36] Speaker 2: moved like a mob boss.
[27:38] Speaker 5: What'd you say? I looked him in his eye and said, well,
[27:40] Speaker 5: any real motherfucker would.
[27:42] Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
[27:45] Speaker 3: That's how David Stern moved. That's how David Stern moved.
[27:49] Speaker 3: You remember, every time he would not stand up, he
[27:51] Speaker 3: didn't want to stand up for the National Anthem. That's
[27:53] Speaker 3: how David Stern moved.
[27:54] Speaker 4: Man, I was so scared. I never mentioned nothing until
[27:57] Speaker 4: after my contract was over.
[27:59] Speaker 2: 2017 is the first time I said something.
[28:02] Speaker 4: He called, Dave, it's good? I can talk?
[28:04] Speaker 2: You're like, we good?
[28:05] Speaker 4: They're like, whew, so, uh.
[28:08] Speaker 2: Dave Stern like, I got moving, I got moving into
[28:10] Speaker 2: my game.
[28:12] Speaker 4: I believe it.
[28:12] Speaker 3: When he come around, I be quiet. When he meet me,
[28:14] Speaker 3: I be talking again.
[28:15] Speaker 2: Dope. Yeah, I ain't never had to deal with that.
[28:18] Speaker 2: Shout out to David Stern. He got my name right
[28:20] Speaker 2: during draft night. He took an extra moment to read
[28:23] Speaker 2: my shit. So shout out to him. He never did
[28:25] Speaker 2: me no wrong. He didn't bother. I was kidding. He
[28:27] Speaker 2: didn't bother.
[28:27] Speaker 3: As long as you don't get in trouble, he on
[28:29] Speaker 3: your side. But if you ever get on the other
[28:30] Speaker 3: side of David Stern, he was moving different. He know.
[28:34] Speaker 3: Let's keep this thing going.
[28:35] Speaker 4: I didn't get on the bad side. Whatever he said,
[28:36] Speaker 4: I was like.
[28:37] Speaker 2: You tried it. I tried. I tried to negotiate.
[28:40] Speaker 4: It's the only negotiation I ever lost.
[28:44] Speaker 2: And I didn't even get to negotiate. I just proposed
[28:47] Speaker 2: my kickback.
[28:48] Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, yeah, with all that.
[28:50] Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you're a smarty-arrow ass.
[28:52] Speaker 4: So what I said, I thought we was going to
[28:57] Speaker 4: have like a talk about the game. It was 50.
[28:59] Speaker 4: He said 51st, said 52nd.
[29:01] Speaker 2: He decided negotiation worked.
[29:03] Speaker 4: He suspended me.
[29:04] Speaker 2: On my birthday. What?
[29:05] Speaker 4: Happy birthday. January 6th. I told you to take a vacation.
[29:09] Speaker 2: On my birthday.
[29:11] Speaker 4: I was playing Cleveland in Cleveland. Happy birthday.
[29:14] Speaker 2: Oh, it was juking too.
[29:16] Speaker 4: I was about to bop them on the birthday?
[29:18] Speaker 2: Cleveland? He said that like I played Cleveland. He said
[29:21] Speaker 2: go home. Why you saying it like that? Go home.
[29:23] Speaker 4: Like I was in uniform. In that regular ass hotel.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Like, this is crazy.
[29:29] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. But first,
[29:31] Speaker 1: we got 27,000 people in the chat right now.
[29:34] Speaker 2: Let's go!
[29:37] Speaker 4: Let's go, chat!
[29:38] Speaker 2: What up, chat? Hey, but chat. chat, we're trying to
[29:41] Speaker 2: see if that like button still works.
[29:42] Speaker 1: So do us a favor. Go ahead and hit that
[29:43] Speaker 1: like button for us right now. Let's make sure it's
[29:45] Speaker 1: still working. YouTube been having some bugs lately.
[29:47] Speaker 4: Look at that juice.
[29:48] Speaker 2: What juice? You gonna charge your phone? Yeah, I can't
[29:51] Speaker 2: even talk to the chat. Oh, what iPhone is this?
[29:54] Speaker 1: I got the new and improved Guild Season 5.
[29:57] Speaker 4: Hey, I'm just gonna say, chat, Y'all proved me right.
[30:02] Speaker 2: Y'all proved me right. What's that?
[30:05] Speaker 4: Please don't bring us in on this. No, it ain't
[30:07] Speaker 4: no drum.
[30:08] Speaker 2: It's just... Huh?
[30:10] Speaker 4: I'm missing it. Who he violent? As long as their
[30:17] Speaker 4: hands was on it.
[30:19] Speaker 2: Who he violent? We was going to do what we
[30:20] Speaker 2: was going to do, baby.
[30:21] Speaker 3: Man, he throwing shots at the old crew, man.
[30:23] Speaker 2: No, no, no. I ain't doing it. No, whoa. That's
[30:25] Speaker 2: not the old crew.
[30:26] Speaker 4: Not a supporter of the... No, not our crew. Okay.
[30:28] Speaker 2: The people who tried.
[30:30] Speaker 4: To run shit around here.
[30:31] Speaker 2: Okay. All right. Just making sure. I told you.
[30:36] Speaker 4: Okay, you told me. You was right.
[30:39] Speaker 2: You was right. I didn't know.
[30:42] Speaker 4: I'm probably going to tell us about YouTube. I'm probably
[30:43] Speaker 4: going to tell us about YouTube.
[30:45] Speaker 2: Take the show back, Joe.
[30:46] Speaker 4: They never been to YouTube.
[30:48] Speaker 2: No, we did take it back. Okay. You was right.
[30:50] Speaker 2: You said it right.
[30:51] Speaker 1: Hey, I thought I was going to be jobless, so
[30:52] Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here, Gil. Direct deposit, two
[30:54] Speaker 1: months straight. I want you to know.
[30:56] Speaker 2: On time. Two months straight. We don't need to lie
[30:58] Speaker 2: no more. Let's keep that streak rolling.
[30:59] Speaker 4: We don't need to lie no more.
[31:00] Speaker 2: We don't need to lie no more. We was never
[31:03] Speaker 2: going to be jobless. We was just pretending. Oh, please
[31:10] Speaker 2: don't take the money.
[31:11] Speaker 4: No, boss.
[31:12] Speaker 6: No.
[31:12] Speaker 2: No, don't do it. Oh, really? Oh, man. Oh, man.
[31:17] Speaker 4: So what you saying about the deal? Yeah.
[31:21] Speaker 2: Oh, no, don't do it. No. Two days? Oh, no.
[31:26] Speaker 2: Gil not talking about anything in particular, ladies and gentlemen.
[31:28] Speaker 2: For legal purposes, he's not speaking about anything. These are
[31:31] Speaker 2: merely hypotheticals. Season five.
[31:33] Speaker 4: Oh, y'all on TikTok for the game?
[31:35] Speaker 2: Oh, no. Y'all don't want me to come home? No. Oh, no.
[31:41] Speaker 4: Just hypotheticals. These are all hypotheticals. Tallest tail.
[31:45] Speaker 2: I should get a movie. I agree.
[31:49] Speaker 3: It goes like this.
[31:50] Speaker 4: Oh, y'all fired me. Y'all don't want me to show up.
[31:52] Speaker 2: Oh, man.
[31:53] Speaker 3: And so we got A.J.
[31:54] Speaker 2: Savanza tomorrow. All right, Pat.
[31:57] Speaker 1: We did have A.J. But let's keep this thing moving.
[31:59] Speaker 1: We talked about the Lakers side. Let's talk about the
[32:02] Speaker 1: Sixers side. So, LeBron, plenty of options this offseason, including
[32:05] Speaker 1: a return to the Lakers at a discount. $ 25 million
[32:09] Speaker 1: range good, but the damage had been done. With happiness
[32:11] Speaker 1: and the best basketball fit as his deciding factor, Bron
[32:15] Speaker 1: picked the Sixers, taking an even bigger discount by signing
[32:18] Speaker 1: a two-year, $ 8 million deal. Now he heads back to
[32:20] Speaker 1: the East to create a big four with former MVP
[32:23] Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, All-NBA guard Tyrese Maxey, and former Finals MVP
[32:27] Speaker 1: and All-NBA wing Jalen Brown with a roster that also
[32:31] Speaker 1: includes first-team All-Rookie selection Vijay Edgecombe. So let's start with
[32:35] Speaker 1: the basketball fit in Philly, and we're going to start
[32:38] Speaker 1: with you. Former number two overall pick.
[32:41] Speaker 2: If we go with the Philly, we got to start
[32:43] Speaker 2: with you. You missed the Philly.
[32:45] Speaker 1: But what are your expectations for LeBron in year 24
[32:47] Speaker 1: and the Sixers squad?
[32:50] Speaker 5: I think there'll be a top three team in the East,
[32:52] Speaker 5: only based off the fact of I don't believe they're
[32:55] Speaker 5: supposed to. I don't want to see LeBron play 65 games.
[32:58] Speaker 5: I want to see, I don't believe Embiid should play
[33:01] Speaker 5: 65 games. I want to see them play just enough
[33:04] Speaker 5: where they can get into the playoffs and have some
[33:06] Speaker 5: type of camaraderie. The one thing I remember from last
[33:08] Speaker 5: playoffs when they beat the Celtics, the whole story was
[33:13] Speaker 5: just Embiid being like, hey, just run down the court.
[33:15] Speaker 5: I'll figure out how to play with y'all and I'll
[33:17] Speaker 5: catch up. Although that was cool and it was impressive
[33:19] Speaker 5: and they were able to win the series, it's like
[33:21] Speaker 5: when you have a dominant big like that, you have
[33:23] Speaker 5: that type of cast, you need to make sure by
[33:27] Speaker 5: the time you hit the playoffs, y'all all downhill running
[33:30] Speaker 5: and knowing how to win for those three weeks, those
[33:32] Speaker 5: four weeks. And I just think the expectation should be,
[33:35] Speaker 5: you know, Third, but also trying to make sure everybody's
[33:38] Speaker 5: healthy come April and May. So you can make sure
[33:41] Speaker 5: you have all your dominant players. Because no matter what,
[33:43] Speaker 5: if MB's on the floor, that's a completely different type
[33:45] Speaker 5: of game plan. And you add that with Brian, Jalen Brown,
[33:49] Speaker 5: and I don't expect them to be the best team
[33:51] Speaker 5: during the season, but to be dominant during that playoff
[33:54] Speaker 5: run and finesse from there. Because as long as MB's
[33:56] Speaker 5: out there, you're going to have a heap of trouble.
[34:01] Speaker 6: I like it for that, too. They built for the playoffs.
[34:03] Speaker 6: That's not a... It's not a roster that excites me
[34:06] Speaker 6: for the year. Because I feel like during the year,
[34:10] Speaker 6: everybody's trying to get their shit off. But it's like,
[34:13] Speaker 6: by the time the playoffs hit and it's late shot.
[34:17] Speaker 2: Clock, they need a bucket.
[34:18] Speaker 6: They got Jalen Brown now to just go out here
[34:20] Speaker 6: and figure out a bad shot that's a good shot
[34:22] Speaker 6: to him.
[34:24] Speaker 5: They got three points shooting there. And the narrative, it's
[34:27] Speaker 5: just like, bro, I'm getting tired of April hits and
[34:29] Speaker 5: we wondering if Embiid is ready or not. And that
[34:32] Speaker 5: should never be the case anymore.
[34:33] Speaker 2: And now Ron's there.
[34:34] Speaker 5: So the training staff is going to be a little different. Yeah,
[34:36] Speaker 5: but the training staff is going to be a little different.
[34:37] Speaker 5: But it's just like, yo, you should be able to
[34:39] Speaker 5: show up. And if he has knee problems, bro, like
[34:42] Speaker 5: he might play 50 games this year, but he's going
[34:44] Speaker 5: to play every game in the playoffs. That needs to
[34:46] Speaker 5: be the number one thing as opposed to coming to
[34:48] Speaker 5: the playoffs like the past three or four years and
[34:50] Speaker 5: just being hurt. But you've got a championship big if
[34:55] Speaker 5: he gets there.
[34:55] Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
[34:57] Speaker 5: That has to matter at this point as opposed to,
[35:00] Speaker 5: People being like, yo, they're going to miss this or
[35:01] Speaker 5: they might not make all NBA. Let's make sure that
[35:03] Speaker 5: top seven or eight know how to play with each other.
[35:06] Speaker 4: Pause at a high, high level.
[35:08] Speaker 2: Good.
[35:09] Speaker 1: And your guess to mention, how long do you think
[35:11] Speaker 1: it's going to take for them to accomplish that? You've
[35:13] Speaker 1: got some big, not necessarily big personalities, but some dynamic stars. Obviously,
[35:16] Speaker 1: Jalen Brown was running the show with the Celtics last
[35:19] Speaker 1: season before Tatum came back. And his number slid just
[35:22] Speaker 1: a little bit. Obviously, Embiid, a former MVP. Tyrese Maxey.
[35:25] Speaker 1: now ready to take over the keys of that Sixers
[35:28] Speaker 1: franchise in LeBron, year 24, with a chip on his shoulder,
[35:31] Speaker 1: still got something to prove. Some interesting personalities in that
[35:34] Speaker 1: locker room. How long do you think it'll take them
[35:35] Speaker 1: to mesh?
[35:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just about to ask.
[35:36] Speaker 5: You should ask Shumthack, because I don't know what the
[35:38] Speaker 5: day-to-day is like on a LeBron James-led team. So, like,
[35:41] Speaker 5: I remember talking to Isaiah Thomas, and you hear stories
[35:43] Speaker 5: about y'all not practicing. Like, do you understand what I'm saying?
[35:46] Speaker 5: Or sometimes it's... Paul's low management, and it's like, yo,
[35:50] Speaker 5: the chemistry.
[35:51] Speaker 4: My fault, y'all. I got an addiction.
[35:52] Speaker 2: No, we appreciate it.
[35:55] Speaker 3: He pausing everything.
[35:55] Speaker 5: Yeah, but the camaraderie or whatever, that has to be
[35:58] Speaker 5: built over time and knowing how to play and getting
[36:00] Speaker 5: those attitudes tight right. And B has his moments to
[36:03] Speaker 5: the point where Tyrese had to call him out during
[36:05] Speaker 5: his rookie year.
[36:06] Speaker 6: I think part of the bronze team being like, you
[36:10] Speaker 6: don't have to practice basketball When you on Bron's team,
[36:16] Speaker 6: it's just a different prep for the game. Like, when
[36:20] Speaker 6: I was with the Knicks, yeah, we did walk-throughs. But
[36:24] Speaker 6: when you on Bron's team, you kind of always know
[36:27] Speaker 6: we supposed to win.
[36:29] Speaker 5: That was back in 2016, 17, 18. I'm not knocking.
[36:32] Speaker 5: I'm just saying it's a new day and age where
[36:34] Speaker 5: you got this.
[36:35] Speaker 2: LeBron James has walked into the league when he plays.
[36:40] Speaker 2: The expectation is you're the best. You're going to win.
[36:43] Speaker 5: You go to the championship and you play around with
[36:46] Speaker 5: the Spurs or the OKC with that type of expectation,
[36:49] Speaker 5: and they've been willing and dealing, and they got their
[36:52] Speaker 5: wheels in motion. It's going to be a tough night
[36:54] Speaker 5: for year 24 LeBron.
[36:56] Speaker 2: For sure.
[36:57] Speaker 5: Embiid has never showed up in the playoffs.
[36:59] Speaker 2: The pressure that Embiid has faced once before was if
[37:04] Speaker 2: Embiid can't do it. The pressure is now on LeBron.
[37:08] Speaker 2: That's what Braun does. He comes in like it bothered Kyrie.
[37:13] Speaker 2: Kyrie had his own set of expectations, his own legacy,
[37:17] Speaker 2: his own shit. Braun comes and now it's about Braun.
[37:22] Speaker 2: So it's like that's what Tyrese Maxey is going to
[37:24] Speaker 2: have to deal with. That's what Embiid is going to
[37:27] Speaker 2: have to deal with. If y'all win, Braun did this.
[37:32] Speaker 2: That mental battle, that's hard as hell. That's the biggest
[37:36] Speaker 2: problem I think a lot of players have to deal with.
[37:40] Speaker 2: When somebody comes, you have to change who you are
[37:43] Speaker 2: a little bit, ego-wise.
[37:44] Speaker 5: I watched LeBron last year literally be the third option
[37:47] Speaker 5: to To Luka and AR.
[37:49] Speaker 4: To Luka and AR. And I'm just saying, like, Brad.
[37:51] Speaker 2: It's like Gil said. It's the proof of point.
[37:52] Speaker 5: Yeah, but once we watch 10, I just think the
[37:55] Speaker 5: times are different from 10 years ago to now. Year 14, Brian,
[37:58] Speaker 5: and year 24, Brian, it's two different completely individuals.
[38:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, one drives to the basket, one turns his back
[38:04] Speaker 2: to the basket. Both of them are going to have
[38:06] Speaker 2: the ball. Both of them are going to control the situation.
[38:09] Speaker 2: Both of them are going to cause a tilt. We're
[38:11] Speaker 2: going to have to tilt and guard Brian one-on-one, but
[38:14] Speaker 2: we're going to have to have a man that's going
[38:16] Speaker 2: to play the white and go play the lanes. You're
[38:19] Speaker 2: going to have to cleanse every three. You can't guard
[38:20] Speaker 2: Brown 101 right now. You can't guard Brown 101 right now. No.
[38:26] Speaker 2: We just watched him in the playoffs. He caught a double.
[38:29] Speaker 4: One of the young boys.
[38:30] Speaker 2: They sent a double.
[38:32] Speaker 3: Like, OG on a no, we don't need no help
[38:34] Speaker 3: LeBron right now.
[38:35] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You can't guard year 24 LeBron.
[38:38] Speaker 2: I don't think he does. I think that if they
[38:40] Speaker 2: played him in the playoffs, they're sending a double.
[38:42] Speaker 4: They are not. I'm not.
[38:43] Speaker 2: With OG on him?
[38:44] Speaker 4: I'm not.
[38:45] Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
[38:45] Speaker 4: You think so?
[38:46] Speaker 2: You already know what we're going to do. Come straight downhill.
[38:50] Speaker 4: He's coming downhill from half court.
[38:52] Speaker 2: A double?
[38:53] Speaker 3: OG's strapping that. I'm not talking about LeBron from back...
[38:59] Speaker 3: You think he's going.
[39:01] Speaker 2: To have a... You think Braun's going to play against
[39:05] Speaker 2: OG Ananobi and actually be in a triple threat and
[39:07] Speaker 2: play face-up? He's going to turn his back. He's going
[39:11] Speaker 2: to walk down there. He's going to say, give me
[39:12] Speaker 2: the ball here. He's going to turn his back and
[39:15] Speaker 2: either he shoots over his left shoulder or his right shoulder,
[39:17] Speaker 2: but either Braun makes it or he misses it. It
[39:19] Speaker 2: doesn't have shit to do with OG.
[39:20] Speaker 5: It's going to be a little bit different. Like I said,
[39:22] Speaker 5: I believe that.
[39:28] Speaker 3: Bron is one of the coldest of all time. I'm
[39:29] Speaker 3: talking about this present version. I believe there are certain guys.
[39:33] Speaker 3: You think in Philly, he's not going to get a
[39:35] Speaker 3: double team?
[39:36] Speaker 2: Hell no. You think Bron's going to be in single coverage?
[39:39] Speaker 2: Depending on who the defender is. Tyrese?
[39:43] Speaker 4: You will be in.
[39:43] Speaker 2: You heard this, shorty? Bron, you hear this, shorty? Y'all
[39:47] Speaker 2: be watching, shorty. You know his media team.
[39:50] Speaker 4: Hey, Bron, you see this, shorty?
[39:53] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, this version of, like, if OG Ananobi
[39:56] Speaker 3: is guarding Bron, he.
[39:57] Speaker 2: Don't need no help.
[39:58] Speaker 4: Not this version.
[39:59] Speaker 2: I'm not saying he don't need it.
[40:00] Speaker 4: They won't send it. You bet not. You bet not
[40:04] Speaker 4: send it. They not going to send it. It's coming.
[40:07] Speaker 2: You can't have Ron back to basket and leave somebody
[40:10] Speaker 2: down there to figure it out. He's got 24 years
[40:13] Speaker 2: in the league, bro. Your man's going to have two
[40:15] Speaker 2: fouls he's sitting on.
[40:17] Speaker 4: I am not sending a double team. You just watched
[40:21] Speaker 4: LeBron James.
[40:22] Speaker 2: You just watched him get double teamed.
[40:24] Speaker 4: Now, with a fucking Embiid there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[40:28] Speaker 4: With M.D.
[40:28] Speaker 2: There. I get what you're saying. Hold on, hold on,
[40:30] Speaker 2: hold on.
[40:30] Speaker 4: I'm saying LeBron.
[40:31] Speaker 2: If a beat is on the floor, you're sending a
[40:34] Speaker 2: double to LeBron James.
[40:34] Speaker 3: No, you can't double.
[40:35] Speaker 2: No, you can't double.
[40:36] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[40:37] Speaker 2: I'm saying Bron attracts these things.
[40:40] Speaker 4: Oh, no, for sure.
[40:40] Speaker 2: Now he has these weapons. That's why it doesn't matter
[40:43] Speaker 2: if he's 24.
[40:43] Speaker 5: But even then, year 24, you still think you need
[40:46] Speaker 5: to double Bron?
[40:47] Speaker 2: No way.
[40:47] Speaker 4: Yes.
[40:48] Speaker 3: Not with certain guys.
[40:49] Speaker 2: How we all watching the same thing? Just last year,
[40:52] Speaker 2: that man was thrown by KD in the playoffs.
[40:56] Speaker 5: KD was.
[40:57] Speaker 2: Who did he drive by for OKC?
[41:00] Speaker 4: Talk to him.
[41:03] Speaker 2: Who did he drive by for OKC? I'm just saying,
[41:06] Speaker 2: it wasn't like OKC was like, we got to send
[41:08] Speaker 2: the house.
[41:09] Speaker 3: No, you didn't have to send the house because you
[41:10] Speaker 3: didn't have that man in the court either.
[41:18] Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
[41:18] Speaker 2: Hold on. We're just strictly talking about Brown.
[41:20] Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
[41:22] Speaker 2: OKC did not have to send the house. You load up?
[41:25] Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't.
[41:26] Speaker 4: And he was, though, where he would have been the
[41:27] Speaker 4: number one.
[41:28] Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.
[41:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just saying. That's OKC.
[41:31] Speaker 4: You see how you picked the champions?
[41:32] Speaker 3: I just picked the team that lost last. That's what
[41:34] Speaker 3: we're talking about. They're going to get based off three weeks.
[41:35] Speaker 3: They're not the champions.
[41:36] Speaker 2: The Knicks are.
[41:37] Speaker 3: I started with the champions. I started with the Knicks.
[41:39] Speaker 4: I don't think Philly goes right away to the championship.
[41:41] Speaker 4: I don't think so.
[41:42] Speaker 5: But I think certain teams were crazy.
[41:45] Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[41:46] Speaker 5: You think Philly's going to do what? Bro, MB got
[41:49] Speaker 5: to pull up, bro. Oh, I want to hear it.
[41:53] Speaker 3: I want to see them in April.
[41:55] Speaker 4: And I don't fuck with Philly. That's why I'm glad
[41:57] Speaker 4: y'all doing all this LeBron talk. I'm mad that the
[41:59] Speaker 4: nigga took $ 8 million. He's asking us for $ 50 and
[42:02] Speaker 4: took $ 8.
[42:06] Speaker 2: So I ain't fucking with them.
[42:07] Speaker 4: It's the principalities.
[42:08] Speaker 2: You wanted 50 over here, but you took two years,
[42:11] Speaker 2: eight million over there. You could have signed that shit here.
[42:15] Speaker 2: And we wouldn't have had half this roster. To get
[42:17] Speaker 2: blamed for this roster? To get blamed for this team?
[42:20] Speaker 2: So you blame it, bro.
[42:21] Speaker 4: Fuck it. Come on.
[42:23] Speaker 2: Eight million? Eight? I would have gave you 20 on
[42:28] Speaker 2: GP just because. So you signed eight? He got all
[42:31] Speaker 2: the trophies.
[42:31] Speaker 4: Now think about our roster. Now imagine our roster with
[42:35] Speaker 4: the eight million. He's kicking at them. And we got Kessler.
[42:39] Speaker 2: And we got them. Then... Bro, you think.
[42:41] Speaker 4: But this is not about us.
[42:43] Speaker 2: So you got Philly doing what?
[42:43] Speaker 4: It's not about us.
[42:44] Speaker 3: What you got Philly doing?
[42:44] Speaker 2: Now, you tell me what Philly's flaw is right now.
[42:46] Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You tell me Philly's... Hold on.
[42:49] Speaker 4: Tell me Philly's flaw. If everybody... Don't use injury.
[42:53] Speaker 2: That's the problem.
[42:54] Speaker 4: I got it. What's Philly's flaw?
[42:56] Speaker 3: Rim protection. Rim protect.
[42:59] Speaker 2: Who's going to do the... Hold on.
[43:00] Speaker 4: Let me.
[43:01] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[43:02] Speaker 3: When you look at Philly, Bron playing the four, he
[43:05] Speaker 3: ain't blocking no shots.
[43:06] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[43:07] Speaker 3: Embiid don't block no shots. Go look at Embiid's bloke.
[43:12] Speaker 3: What you jumping up and down for, man?
[43:14] Speaker 2: Did you?
[43:15] Speaker 4: He talking facts. He talking facts? Do I got a
[43:18] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown on my team? He done finished games at 7'2.
[43:21] Speaker 2: He done finished these games with four rebounds.
[43:24] Speaker 4: Do I have a Jalen Brown on my team? Do
[43:27] Speaker 4: I have a young VJ on my team? Do I
[43:30] Speaker 4: have a Maxie? So I got three players on the
[43:32] Speaker 4: perimeter that do the damn thing.
[43:35] Speaker 2: You get past him, dinner's on LeBron James.
[43:39] Speaker 4: He's doing all his job.
[43:41] Speaker 2: He does his job before you get there.
[43:43] Speaker 4: So he's closing everything.
[43:44] Speaker 2: Then I got Embiid back there who's going to get it.
[43:47] Speaker 2: So I have defense. Have y'all seen him? You've been
[43:51] Speaker 2: in this league, Gil.
[43:52] Speaker 4: I don't need a Wimby back there. My guards don't
[43:57] Speaker 4: get burned past like that.
[43:58] Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on,
[44:01] Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. You can't hand check.
[44:02] Speaker 3: You don't need a Wimby, but most championship teams, they
[44:06] Speaker 3: got a big man that do the dirty work.
[44:09] Speaker 2: Who's going to do that for Philly? When you look
[44:10] Speaker 2: at Golden State, hold on, hold on. You got to, hey,
[44:13] Speaker 2: you got, hey, listen, look at Shumpert and his team.
[44:16] Speaker 2: You had Tristan setting screens, blocking shots, rolling the pass.
[44:19] Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson was huge for the Knicks last year. Although,
[44:25] Speaker 2: before he elbowed Wimby and shit, that shit wasn't going
[44:28] Speaker 2: like that. Only thing, only thing. He came in like, hey,
[44:32] Speaker 2: you hear him, shut it up? Yeah, let me get that. Oh, my.
[44:35] Speaker 4: We just grabbed, they just grabbed Jaylen Brown, right?
[44:38] Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. Amen. And then you're adding.
[44:43] Speaker 4: LeBron James' mind in the back and you're going to
[44:45] Speaker 4: tell me they're going to.
[44:46] Speaker 3: I'm not talking about his mind. His mind ain't going
[44:49] Speaker 3: to block no shot. Why don't we block the game together?
[44:52] Speaker 2: No. I don't know what y'all talking about.
[44:54] Speaker 3: How many years has LeBron averaged two blocks? What was
[44:56] Speaker 3: the latest defense? At 24, you want Brian to get
[44:59] Speaker 3: two blocks? Hold on, hold on. Evan, at 24, you
[45:02] Speaker 3: want Brian to get two blocks a game at the
[45:04] Speaker 3: power forward position?
[45:05] Speaker 2: No, 1.3.
[45:06] Speaker 3: No, that's what he just said.
[45:07] Speaker 6: I want 1.3.
[45:07] Speaker 2: 1.3? Big games, two blocks.
[45:08] Speaker 5: Everything else is going to be one.
[45:10] Speaker 3: Okay, well, you said two for the season.
[45:11] Speaker 2: No, I said not just big games, two blocks.
[45:14] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[45:15] Speaker 2: What Brendan is saying is Anthony Edwards is going to
[45:18] Speaker 2: come in there and try and get a bucket. How?
[45:21] Speaker 2: Do you think that he's going to have a problem
[45:24] Speaker 2: getting to the rim? Taylor Brown?
[45:26] Speaker 4: What the fuck is with us?
[45:27] Speaker 2: Taylor Brown guarded him last year, nigga. We're talking about
[45:31] Speaker 2: Embiid blocking a shot. Braun blocking a shot. Once it
[45:35] Speaker 2: get athletic. It's going to get athletic. Say it again.
[45:39] Speaker 2: After what? Athletic.
[45:41] Speaker 4: And what is my one, two, three? Athletic.
[45:44] Speaker 2: My one, two, three jumps over.
[45:45] Speaker 4: I got a two that jumps over people.
[45:47] Speaker 2: Bro, they got tacos. I got a two who jumps
[45:49] Speaker 2: over people. Hey, hey.
[45:52] Speaker 4: What he does is not even legal.
[45:54] Speaker 2: Listen, they all are getting by. Like, you think Luka's
[45:57] Speaker 2: not going to get by Tyrese Maxey? Luka ain't going
[46:00] Speaker 2: to finish shit.
[46:01] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown? He's going to float this shit out of him.
[46:03] Speaker 2: What do you mean he ain't going to finish? He's
[46:06] Speaker 2: going to float the fuck out of him. I'm just saying,
[46:09] Speaker 2: Embiid can get two blocks, bro. That's not the craziest
[46:11] Speaker 2: shit on earth.
[46:12] Speaker 5: When I see Embiid big ass, I'm not going to
[46:14] Speaker 5: the paint.
[46:15] Speaker 4: Against Detroit.
[46:17] Speaker 2: What's Buddy's name? What's the other big Detroit?
[46:20] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Paul. Paul will protect some shit. You go up, you
[46:25] Speaker 2: now have to change your finish because I'm here.
[46:29] Speaker 4: That's rim protection.
[46:30] Speaker 2: You ain't changing shit.
[46:31] Speaker 4: You beating Embiid to the rim. Are people changing their route?
[46:37] Speaker 2: Are people seeing Embiid and saying, you know what? You
[46:40] Speaker 2: see how Wimby protects the rim? Yeah. People see him
[46:43] Speaker 2: and say, you know what? I ain't got my feet together.
[46:45] Speaker 2: Let me get to the three-pointer. For the past three years.
[46:48] Speaker 2: Hold on. Let me. Hey, shut up. Let me. That's
[46:49] Speaker 2: what he said. Hey, Sean. Sean. Where's the rep? Who's
[46:52] Speaker 2: going chest to chest? Rule of verticality.
[46:56] Speaker 4: They can keep them from that.
[46:58] Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on.
[46:58] Speaker 4: They have athleticism to keep people.
[47:01] Speaker 2: I would love to see it. Hey, listen. Brendan, what
[47:03] Speaker 2: you got?
[47:04] Speaker 3: If what you were saying, I understand what you're saying.
[47:06] Speaker 3: If it was, hey, let's go play one-on-one, bing, bing, bing.
[47:09] Speaker 3: This one, I'm going to give you what they're going
[47:11] Speaker 3: to do to Philly before the season even— Everybody that
[47:14] Speaker 3: sees them in the playoffs.
[47:15] Speaker 2: Real talk. I'm going to give it to you for free.
[47:17] Speaker 2: And when you see it, make sure you give me
[47:19] Speaker 2: your credit. I'm going to give it to you for free.
[47:21] Speaker 2: Give me my credit in May when it happens. Come on, man.
[47:23] Speaker 2: We are recording right now. They're going to put them
[47:25] Speaker 2: in the mid-picking role. Come on.
[47:27] Speaker 3: And B going to run that. Sorry, his drop is
[47:29] Speaker 3: not good. They've been blowing by him all playoffs. When
[47:33] Speaker 3: you blow by Embiid, if your weak side is Braun,
[47:37] Speaker 3: you're cooked.
[47:37] Speaker 2: They're going to be in there laying it up like this.
[47:39] Speaker 3: That is how they're going to attack Philly.
[47:41] Speaker 4: Give me a pick and roll. Give me two people
[47:42] Speaker 4: on the pick and roll. Pick a team.
[47:44] Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson and whoever he need.
[47:45] Speaker 4: Carl Anthony Towns.
[47:46] Speaker 2: Give me one.
[47:47] Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson, Carl Anthony Towns.
[47:49] Speaker 2: Braun.
[47:50] Speaker 3: What is he doing with Jalen?
[47:52] Speaker 2: He's going to leave Embiid at the rim and he's
[47:54] Speaker 2: going to take the ticket. We played basketball before. We
[47:57] Speaker 2: did this shit before. I know. Antoine. Jarrett. He's saying. Jarrett.
[48:01] Speaker 2: Did you see how bad our defense was?
[48:03] Speaker 3: Jarrett.
[48:04] Speaker 4: Did you see how bad our defense was?
[48:05] Speaker 2: Jarrett. He's saying that's the advantage you have LeBron there for.
[48:10] Speaker 2: LeBron can make that adjustment.
[48:12] Speaker 3: What's the adjustment?
[48:13] Speaker 2: He's going to take the pick and roll. So now
[48:15] Speaker 2: I got LeBron. LeBron can stay man to man.
[48:19] Speaker 3: But you know what it's going to be? Boom, LeBron's
[48:22] Speaker 3: guarding him? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[48:25] Speaker 2: Who did B switch to? No, no, no. You stop.
[48:28] Speaker 4: You stop.
[48:28] Speaker 2: He's over here now.
[48:30] Speaker 3: They're going to make him play in the middle of
[48:31] Speaker 3: the court. Once they make him play in the middle
[48:33] Speaker 3: of the court, because his drop coverage is not what
[48:35] Speaker 3: it used to be.
[48:36] Speaker 2: As a big man, I see it. I love it.
[48:39] Speaker 4: I respect it.
[48:40] Speaker 2: Why do you think I've.
[48:41] Speaker 4: Got two defensive-minded people?
[48:44] Speaker 2: Who?
[48:45] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown. He's going to get screened.
[48:48] Speaker 2: It's a ball screen. It's a ball screen. I was
[48:50] Speaker 2: heralded as... Niggas was like, oh, man, you're going.
[48:52] Speaker 4: To lock up a lot.
[48:54] Speaker 2: I really just couldn't get no more shots because I
[48:56] Speaker 2: always play with niggas that shoot a lot. But... When
[48:59] Speaker 2: I'm guarding somebody, it's like sometimes it don't matter because
[49:02] Speaker 2: James Harden is not going to do the shake show
[49:04] Speaker 2: with me. He's going to be like, come get this, man.
[49:08] Speaker 2: Give me this ball. I got to do your coverage.
[49:11] Speaker 4: Last year, you're gone.
[49:12] Speaker 5: Last year, Nick did hunt Embiid and was just like,
[49:16] Speaker 5: we're going to figure it out. Because Embiid did it
[49:18] Speaker 5: like 50 goals a game at one point.
[49:20] Speaker 2: Last year, I didn't have LeBron and Jalen Brown. You're right.
[49:25] Speaker 4: Very different team.
[49:25] Speaker 2: All I'm saying is, like Brendan is saying, at some point,
[49:29] Speaker 2: Embiid's going to have to be there for the drop.
[49:32] Speaker 2: What he's saying is, it's going to be food.
[49:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, we tried that shit with Shaquille O'Neal, too. That
[49:37] Speaker 4: shit works here and there. Are you comparing Embiid to Shaq? No,
[49:40] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you're going to sit in that drop.
[49:43] Speaker 4: I'm going to come off this drop. You're going to
[49:44] Speaker 4: sit in that drop, Shaq. I'm going to do this
[49:46] Speaker 4: pick and roll. I'm going to hit this mini. Miami
[49:48] Speaker 4: was a great defensive team. But I'm.
[49:51] Speaker 3: I'm just saying... You're not.
[49:53] Speaker 4: You're factoring in B then. You're not factoring what they
[49:57] Speaker 4: got extra.
[49:58] Speaker 3: I am.
[49:58] Speaker 2: Yes. No, no, no.
[49:59] Speaker 3: I'm taking all that into account. I'm saying when I
[50:02] Speaker 3: look at this team, when I look at championship teams,
[50:04] Speaker 3: they normally have... Some players up front that do the
[50:07] Speaker 3: dirty work. You got a guy that can switch a
[50:09] Speaker 3: pick and roll like a Draymond Green. Yeah, he ain't
[50:11] Speaker 3: going to shoot all the balls, but he's going to
[50:13] Speaker 3: do the dirty work. You're going to have a guy
[50:15] Speaker 3: like a Mitchell Robinson that can come off the bench
[50:17] Speaker 3: for the Knicks and change a series. You're going to
[50:19] Speaker 3: have somebody that's going to scream, hard-ass scream, roll down
[50:23] Speaker 3: the lane. And B don't even want to scream and roll.
[50:25] Speaker 3: He want to scream and pop. So I'm just sitting
[50:27] Speaker 3: at this end. When I look at this team, The
[50:30] Speaker 3: game is, as much as they shoot threes, the game
[50:32] Speaker 3: is still one in that paint. You got to affect
[50:34] Speaker 3: that paint. And defensively, I don't think Philly going to
[50:37] Speaker 3: affect the paint.
[50:38] Speaker 2: Look at who won this.
[50:38] Speaker 3: Defensively, I don't think Philly's going to affect the paint.
[50:41] Speaker 2: That's the DNA of the league.
[50:41] Speaker 3: And they're going to attack them in the middle of
[50:43] Speaker 3: the court, and that's what's going to happen. I'm going
[50:45] Speaker 3: to be here and say it today.
[50:47] Speaker 2: You better have a hundred. It may.
[50:50] Speaker 3: And when I come back in May, we're going to
[50:53] Speaker 3: figure out they did.
[50:53] Speaker 4: That's exactly what they did.
[50:55] Speaker 2: Real talk.
[50:55] Speaker 4: I know it's coming too.
[50:57] Speaker 2: Everybody.
[50:58] Speaker 4: That's what you do.
[50:59] Speaker 2: In the playoffs, during the regular season, whoever want to
[51:03] Speaker 2: clap their hands on whatever they do, fine. When the
[51:06] Speaker 2: playoffs get here, it's going to be the same shit
[51:09] Speaker 2: over and over. Where's Embiid at? How healthy are you today?
[51:13] Speaker 3: Can I give you the second problem? The second problem
[51:15] Speaker 3: is going to be trying to figure out what it's
[51:19] Speaker 3: going to be.
[51:19] Speaker 2: Who going to shoot? Bingo. Only one basketball. Hold on,
[51:23] Speaker 2: hold on, hold on.
[51:23] Speaker 3: When you play, hold on.
[51:25] Speaker 2: Get. It's only one.
[51:27] Speaker 3: Well, let me grab that bat and you keep jumping
[51:28] Speaker 3: over there.
[51:28] Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
[51:29] Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you're coming down the
[51:31] Speaker 3: stretch of a game. The Knicks know exactly how they're
[51:34] Speaker 3: winning games. That's why they beat the Spurs.
[51:36] Speaker 4: How's Philly going to do it?
[51:37] Speaker 3: Because they know exactly where the ball is going to go,
[51:40] Speaker 3: who's going to get it, what the play is going
[51:41] Speaker 3: to be, where everybody's going to go. Hey, this is
[51:43] Speaker 3: the play.
[51:44] Speaker 2: Bam.
[51:44] Speaker 3: Everybody fan out.
[51:45] Speaker 2: Now, in Philly. Who get it?
[51:47] Speaker 3: It's going to be like, hey, Tyrese Maxey. Now, if
[51:50] Speaker 3: he's not hit the shot, if he missed two or
[51:52] Speaker 3: three shots, Jalen is going to be over there looking
[51:53] Speaker 3: at him like this. Then you know Braun's still going
[51:55] Speaker 3: to be over there like, I'm still the king. And
[51:57] Speaker 3: B's going to be over there, oh, you know, you
[51:58] Speaker 3: can talk to me. Like, you already know what it's.
[52:01] Speaker 4: Going to be. Was that not a good impression? That
[52:04] Speaker 4: was a very, very good impression.
[52:06] Speaker 2: I was not ready.
[52:07] Speaker 3: Oh, you know, you can still talk to me.
[52:10] Speaker 4: Like, you like that one.
[52:11] Speaker 2: You like that one. Yeah, don't leave me hanging. Yeah,
[52:13] Speaker 2: don't leave me hanging.
[52:15] Speaker 3: You like that one.
[52:16] Speaker 2: You like this. All I'm saying is. I thought it
[52:19] Speaker 2: was one of them drops y'all played on the speaker. No,
[52:20] Speaker 2: that ain't no drop.
[52:21] Speaker 3: That's your boy. But all I'm sitting there saying is
[52:23] Speaker 3: at the end of the game, it's going to be
[52:25] Speaker 3: your turn, my turn. And that's why you very rarely
[52:28] Speaker 3: win it the first year because you got to figure
[52:30] Speaker 3: all this out.
[52:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Go through a.
[52:32] Speaker 3: Little bit of heartache and come back and do it
[52:34] Speaker 3: again with everybody willing to sacrifice. The coach has got
[52:36] Speaker 3: to figure out how to get this guy not to
[52:38] Speaker 3: take this shot at this time, but not piss him
[52:40] Speaker 3: off and still have him engaged. Some of these other teams,
[52:44] Speaker 3: like the Knicks, they ain't got them problems. They already
[52:46] Speaker 3: know how they want to win. So if Philly don't win,
[52:50] Speaker 3: it's going to be because of the chemistry at the
[52:52] Speaker 3: end of ballgames and how you attack them in the
[52:54] Speaker 3: mid-pick and roll and the rim protection. Because they don't
[52:57] Speaker 3: have a big man to.
[52:57] Speaker 2: Do the dirty work.
[52:58] Speaker 4: They might not even run a regular.
[52:59] Speaker 2: How are you going to solve?
[53:00] Speaker 3: How are you going to solve?
[53:03] Speaker 4: If we beat their ass in the first three quarters,
[53:05] Speaker 4: we ain't got to worry about the last two, three minutes.
[53:07] Speaker 2: Man, good luck with it.
[53:08] Speaker 3: You remember, first quarter, if I want to beat Philly, Embiid,
[53:14] Speaker 3: you're getting two fouls.
[53:15] Speaker 2: Or, you better not play no defense. You remember, we're
[53:19] Speaker 2: going to kill y'all. How many game winners? We'll be
[53:23] Speaker 2: all 25.
[53:23] Speaker 4: Who shot the last shots with Golden State? Stephen Curry.
[53:27] Speaker 4: I thought he was sitting on the bench.
[53:29] Speaker 2: When? Them years.
[53:31] Speaker 4: Them what years? Them years when I was in the championship.
[53:35] Speaker 4: They didn't win in 73-9?
[53:35] Speaker 2: No, 73-9. Oh, you're saying during the regular season. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[53:37] Speaker 4: They didn't have them problems.
[53:38] Speaker 2: They didn't win the championship. But they didn't have them problems.
[53:41] Speaker 2: They didn't win the championship. But what I'm saying is
[53:44] Speaker 2: they didn't have them problems. We'll figure it out when
[53:45] Speaker 2: we have that problem once in the blue moon. But
[53:47] Speaker 2: if we're beating everybody's ass... We don't have to worry
[53:50] Speaker 2: about that. Do y'all not know what this team is
[53:53] Speaker 2: made of? I got one of the fastest. First of all,
[53:56] Speaker 2: my guard, my.
[53:57] Speaker 4: Guard, you can't stay in front of my goal. He
[54:01] Speaker 4: averaged 28.
[54:02] Speaker 5: He averaged 28.
[54:05] Speaker 4: With my big man out there. So you can't even
[54:08] Speaker 4: double him. Then my shooting guard, Right?
[54:12] Speaker 2: MVP race. He can shoot and jump.
[54:13] Speaker 4: So that means when he gets the ball, you got
[54:15] Speaker 4: to be back there. Now I got Jalen Brown at
[54:18] Speaker 4: my three.
[54:19] Speaker 2: Right? I got Jalen Brown at my three. Who wants
[54:22] Speaker 2: to attack that middle two? MVP. Right?
[54:24] Speaker 4: Then I got LeBron James. When the ball is in
[54:25] Speaker 4: his hand, I got to still watch the back doors, lobs.
[54:28] Speaker 4: I got to watch for all of that.
[54:30] Speaker 2: Then there's the best player.
[54:33] Speaker 4: When healthy is arguing for MVP.
[54:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:36] Speaker 4: What the fuck we going to do with him?
[54:37] Speaker 2: There's only one basketball game. But we complicated it.
[54:40] Speaker 5: One basketball even coming down a stretch. It's literally like, hey, bro,
[54:43] Speaker 5: you got to handle LeBron.
[54:46] Speaker 2: The Olympics had one basketball. They figured that shit out.
[54:48] Speaker 2: With Maxi Spaced. They figured it out. Who got the ball?
[54:52] Speaker 2: LeBron got the ball down a stretch.
[54:54] Speaker 4: We know who had a ball at the he gone
[54:55] Speaker 4: Brian who always has the ball Broncos.
[54:57] Speaker 2: That's what Britain's saying though. Hey, hey, can you be
[55:00] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown? Jalen Brown been doing it. He's used to it.
[55:04] Speaker 2: He's been in the right corner.
[55:06] Speaker 4: He like that, bro.
[55:06] Speaker 2: Here we go. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's been in the
[55:09] Speaker 2: right corner. He was cool.
[55:11] Speaker 3: That ain't what he said on the switch.
[55:12] Speaker 2: Hey, brother. On the switch, he said he liked being
[55:15] Speaker 2: the first side.
[55:16] Speaker 4: I know what he said.
[55:16] Speaker 2: He liked being the first side. He's talking about LeBron.
[55:19] Speaker 2: And what'd they do with him?
[55:20] Speaker 4: What'd they do with him? Stop.
[55:21] Speaker 2: What'd they do?
[55:22] Speaker 4: You just said it.
[55:23] Speaker 2: LeBron didn't what he used to be.
[55:24] Speaker 4: That's what I said. But he's still going to have.
[55:26] Speaker 2: If you was in your prime, do you think you'd
[55:28] Speaker 2: let a declining LeBron that's just staying for... Hey, this con.
[55:31] Speaker 5: He just won the first round series last week. That's
[55:34] Speaker 5: the best IQ.
[55:35] Speaker 3: Because if you give LeBron that ball, and let's just
[55:37] Speaker 3: say LeBron... I'm just saying what has happened. There's going
[55:39] Speaker 3: to be a lot the eye rolls.
[55:42] Speaker 2: Not from Tyrese. Not from MB. When it go good,
[55:47] Speaker 2: you don't get the eye rolls. When it go bad,
[55:51] Speaker 2: and then it look like it's Bron and the other guys.
[55:54] Speaker 2: Egos are real, bro. That's not hating. That's ego. If
[55:56] Speaker 2: it go bad, you doing good, I don't want you
[55:58] Speaker 2: to do good. If we lost, And I feel like
[56:06] Speaker 2: you should have gave me that, bitch, because I'm younger.
[56:09] Speaker 2: I can handle it. You just a little older. That's
[56:11] Speaker 2: what you got me for. Get to the back of
[56:13] Speaker 2: the bus. But LeBron ain't doing that. Get to the
[56:16] Speaker 2: back of the bus, bro.
[56:17] Speaker 4: The beginning of the season, that ball is going to
[56:19] Speaker 4: Maxie and Maxione. Dead ass. That's who's getting the ball. Maxie,
[56:24] Speaker 4: because he's the one that has the advantage.
[56:27] Speaker 3: You keep thinking it's going to Maxie only. Jalen Brown
[56:29] Speaker 3: ain't coming out here to just watch the Maxie show.
[56:32] Speaker 3: And listen, Embiid ain't going to be out here just
[56:36] Speaker 3: acting like atmosphere. How you going to answer the ball? Oh,
[56:38] Speaker 3: I can still do it. Give me the ball. Like, listen,
[56:41] Speaker 3: Embiid going to want that rock.
[56:42] Speaker 2: He wanted it last year when Maxie was going by himself.
[56:46] Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you want. I know
[56:47] Speaker 2: what you're going to get.
[56:48] Speaker 3: You don't want me to four-fob you.
[56:49] Speaker 4: I know what you want.
[56:50] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown said.
[56:51] Speaker 4: What did he say?
[56:53] Speaker 2: He said this was what?
[56:54] Speaker 3: This was the most fun year.
[56:55] Speaker 4: This was the most fun year. What did Boston say?
[56:58] Speaker 3: They threw him out like.
[56:59] Speaker 4: Take your fun ass over somewhere else. And he did.
[57:02] Speaker 2: It don't matter.
[57:05] Speaker 4: You want to win a championship, right? Get your ass
[57:08] Speaker 4: in that right corner where you spent most of your career.
[57:10] Speaker 4: Trust me. It sounds good.
[57:14] Speaker 2: Being a nigga that had to be on that team,
[57:16] Speaker 2: I had to deal with I'm mellow, man. I'm a
[57:20] Speaker 2: bronze man. You got to deal with that mental battle.
[57:22] Speaker 2: You got to deal with, oh, over here? Yeah, I
[57:24] Speaker 2: just had 25, but next game, they ain't running no
[57:27] Speaker 2: plays for me.
[57:28] Speaker 4: You got 25?
[57:28] Speaker 2: That's cool. Sit your ass down. There's a king on trumpets.
[57:32] Speaker 2: You understand that? Ron, you got Maxie. That's five people
[57:36] Speaker 2: that feel like it's my time. Hold on.
[57:40] Speaker 3: Remember what we talked about in the van on the
[57:41] Speaker 3: way over here? We talked about when you and JR
[57:44] Speaker 3: first got to Cleveland, and y'all were forced to stand
[57:47] Speaker 3: in the corner, and I'd be like, hey, man, hey.
[57:49] Speaker 4: Young fella. Real talk.
[57:50] Speaker 3: I'd be like, young fella, it's going to be all right.
[57:51] Speaker 3: You just play the role.
[57:52] Speaker 2: Straight up.
[57:53] Speaker 3: It's going to be okay. Y'all didn't want to just
[57:55] Speaker 3: be corner boys. Now, what do you think that would
[57:59] Speaker 3: have been like for you if you had Jalen Brown's resume?
[58:04] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[58:04] Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
[58:05] Speaker 3: So, like, I was trying to talk you off the clip,
[58:08] Speaker 3: and you were cold.
[58:09] Speaker 2: Real talk.
[58:10] Speaker 3: But you didn't have Jalen Brown's resume.
[58:12] Speaker 2: No, put it out there. I was never in them conversations.
[58:14] Speaker 2: If you had Jalen Brown's, you know why I didn't
[58:16] Speaker 2: go talk to K-Love?
[58:18] Speaker 3: Because I was like, hey, man. You just got to
[58:19] Speaker 3: deal with it. I'm sorry, bro.
[58:21] Speaker 2: Because K-Love didn't like... I played with K-Love. K-Love hated
[58:24] Speaker 2: standing in that damn corner. He hated it. But where
[58:28] Speaker 2: did he stand? Where he was told. And what else
[58:32] Speaker 2: did he do? He had to deal with the mental
[58:35] Speaker 2: battle of it. I don't give a fuck what he
[58:38] Speaker 2: got to do with it.
[58:39] Speaker 4: You stare your ass in.
[58:40] Speaker 2: That corner, boy.
[58:41] Speaker 5: Bro, you got to cover yourself in honor of my knees.
[58:44] Speaker 2: Bro, don't let anyone hear that shit. I just said
[58:46] Speaker 2: he didn't like it. That's all I'm saying. He didn't
[58:50] Speaker 2: like it. I don't know if everybody can do what
[58:53] Speaker 2: Kevin Love did.
[58:54] Speaker 4: No, bro, but the second Jalen Brown.
[58:55] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Jalen Brown, Mike Wolfe. Bro, Jalen Brown
[58:58] Speaker 2: got more of a way than K-Love.
[59:01] Speaker 4: What I do know from watching Jalen Brown, he wants
[59:05] Speaker 4: to win.
[59:06] Speaker 2: For sure.
[59:06] Speaker 4: He had fun last year, but when Tatum came back,
[59:11] Speaker 4: he did take a backseat.
[59:12] Speaker 2: Yes. He did.
[59:14] Speaker 4: Right? So Jalen Brown, at the beginning of this, this
[59:19] Speaker 4: team is going to be ran off them three guards.
[59:23] Speaker 2: They're going to do all the heavy lifting. Who?
[59:25] Speaker 3: I'm just saying names.
[59:26] Speaker 4: Maxie, Vijay, and Jalen Brown.
[59:28] Speaker 3: Vijay getting cut out of the show.
[59:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's going to be the only one.
[59:33] Speaker 4: But when we're talking about cut out, you got to remember,
[59:38] Speaker 4: my point guard is the fastest on the team. The
[59:42] Speaker 4: shooting guard is the second fastest, which means what we're
[59:45] Speaker 4: going to do is we're.
[59:46] Speaker 2: Going to take off.
[59:47] Speaker 4: We're going to take off. What I'm saying is, first
[59:50] Speaker 4: of all, we're going to go if we have to
[59:52] Speaker 4: set up then it'll be LeBron and what's-his-name. But the three,
[59:56] Speaker 4: them three, they're going to be trying to get fast
[59:58] Speaker 4: break the whole time.
[59:59] Speaker 3: VJ going to have the hardest adjustment.
[1:00:01] Speaker 4: Nah, I think he's going to be fine.
[1:00:03] Speaker 5: A young kid, let's just govern them a little bit
[1:00:06] Speaker 5: and be like, bro, they know they roll. When Jalen
[1:00:09] Speaker 5: got traded to the Sixers, I think the second that he's...
[1:00:11] Speaker 5: They got Anthony.
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: Simons coming off the bench.
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: They got a lot of people that need that.
[1:00:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: That's where they come in here, punch somebody. Dude, that's them. LeBaron, Philo, Jr. Yeah, bro,
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: they know they rose.
[1:00:22] Speaker 5: But when JB saw LeBron come over, I don't think
[1:00:25] Speaker 5: he was sitting there being like, LeBron need to get
[1:00:27] Speaker 5: his shit together and figure out how to play with me.
[1:00:30] Speaker 5: They played devil's advocate a little bit more. I think
[1:00:33] Speaker 5: people are like, yo, J.B. ain't going to like this.
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: J.B.
[1:00:35] Speaker 5: Ain't going to like that.
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: J.B.
[1:00:36] Speaker 5: Just be screaming for a little bit of respect. He
[1:00:39] Speaker 5: don't want all the spotlight. He's like, just give me
[1:00:41] Speaker 5: my goddamn respect and not a backhanded compliment. He's not
[1:00:45] Speaker 5: sitting there. He knows how to play the second option.
[1:00:48] Speaker 5: He knows he's 1B. He's just like, give me my respect.
[1:00:50] Speaker 5: Not every time I do something, it's like because the
[1:00:54] Speaker 5: lack of Jason or whatever else. I just want to
[1:00:56] Speaker 5: give credit to that and being like, yo, it's LeBron.
[1:01:00] Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, but everybody doesn't feel the
[1:01:04] Speaker 3: way you just described.
[1:01:06] Speaker 4: Why not?
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: Hold on. Hey, listen. You brought up Kai. When LeBron
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: came to that team, Kyrie was cold, but he wasn't
[1:01:14] Speaker 3: close to LeBron. Kai didn't always love that.
[1:01:18] Speaker 5: Yeah, but he also didn't make the playoffs and LeBron
[1:01:20] Speaker 5: had to come to the team. When they relied on him,
[1:01:23] Speaker 5: Kyrie was missing games and everything. He was sitting out
[1:01:27] Speaker 5: on his team and everything.
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: You're making sense. When I'm talking about... Not you. I'm
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: saying it's a delusional mindset.
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: It's a delusion.
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: That's why Kyrie hit that shot because he's delusional.
[1:01:36] Speaker 4: Kyrie was the nicest. That's why he hit that shot.
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: He's delusional.
[1:01:39] Speaker 5: If Kyrie didn't break his kneecap, we would have never
[1:01:41] Speaker 5: even known about a Warriors dynasty. It would have been
[1:01:44] Speaker 5: over the year before. You didn't even need Kevin Love.
[1:01:47] Speaker 5: If LeBron had a one-on-one move at the end of regulation,
[1:01:50] Speaker 5: Kyrie would have never broke his kneecap and he probably
[1:01:52] Speaker 5: would have.
[1:01:53] Speaker 2: Evan, I'm just talking. I'm Evan. And we still would
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: have won that game.
[1:01:59] Speaker 5: And y'all would have finished the fourth quarter. Kyrie would
[1:02:02] Speaker 5: have broke his kneecap literally in overtime. Because what do you.
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: Have on staff?
[1:02:07] Speaker 5: 28, 8, 7, 3 blocks, 4 steals. He was at him.
[1:02:10] Speaker 5: It was finna be over. This whole dynasty that was
[1:02:12] Speaker 5: built was off LeBron being by himself and Della Dodova
[1:02:15] Speaker 5: running out of gas.
[1:02:16] Speaker 3: I'm not saying you're wrong. I agree with everything you
[1:02:19] Speaker 3: just said. I'm still taking it back to the mentality.
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about.
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: You are right.
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: But there are going to be some dogs that are
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: going to be sitting over there like, that's my ball.
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: Hey, listen up. Did we not have it? I don't
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: think Jalen Brown is going to see Tyrese Maxey getting
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: off and say nothing. That's not what I'm saying. But
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when you lose game three and game
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: four is a must win, Or y'all lose home court.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: It's going to be all type of shit that's going
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: to enter the chat. Do you think Jalen Brown is
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: now going to say, I'll take a back seat and just...
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: Because when we lose, the season's over. The dog in
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, the competitor in him, is not allowing that.
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: I don't know if Tyrese Maxey is going to allow that.
[1:03:12] Speaker 5: Tyrese is a good kid, though.
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: He's a great kid. Will he accept losing? Yes.
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: Of course you've been losing. Listen, it's tough. Until you're
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: in the position, you don't know. Even though they made
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: the playoffs, Sixers, it's a losing culture.
[1:03:27] Speaker 4: Am I wrong for saying that? You bogus. You got
[1:03:31] Speaker 4: drafted there. It don't bother me. No, no, no.
[1:03:32] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, when you're saying, well, losing bothered
[1:03:36] Speaker 5: Tyrese Maxey. I'm saying, even though when they made the playoffs,
[1:03:39] Speaker 5: they should have been, they haven't made it past the
[1:03:41] Speaker 5: second round since Iverson was there. When we're sitting there, realistically,
[1:03:44] Speaker 5: even the past 10, 12 years, and they spent a
[1:03:46] Speaker 5: bajillion dollars, like, I'm not dissing Philly. But it's like,
[1:03:49] Speaker 5: will it bother Tyrese? Tyrese is a cute little kid
[1:03:52] Speaker 5: bringing back the energy. I'm saying he's a little puppy
[1:03:57] Speaker 5: bringing back the energy when you're waiting for Joel Embiid
[1:03:59] Speaker 5: to play 90 games in four years. So when you
[1:04:02] Speaker 5: sit there and it's like, hey, will he do what
[1:04:04] Speaker 5: makes sense for sure? But losing don't really bother him
[1:04:07] Speaker 5: because he's the first one to really take it serious.
[1:04:10] Speaker 5: We had to sit around and look at front offices
[1:04:12] Speaker 5: and be like, hey, they didn't show up today.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: They didn't do this.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: Listen, I understand all of that.
[1:04:17] Speaker 2: I'm with Chump.
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: Because when I've been on teams that have multiple stars.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: It's tough.
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: And those stars start getting asked to set because you
[1:04:26] Speaker 3: know what happens? You know what happens when you that third,
[1:04:28] Speaker 3: fourth guy? That All-NBA that you used to get, you
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: don't get that no more. That All-Star game that you
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: used to get invited to, now you better be hoping
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: to get in as an alternate. That messes with them guys' ego.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that.
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: And so that's why I brought up Kevin Love because
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: Kevin Love did a great job sacrificing, but in the moment,
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: there were times where he didn't like it. When you're
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: talking about Kyle thought he should have the ball sometimes,
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: and you're like, nah, he couldn't have thought that. You
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: remember when Bron turned that thing over against the Spurs
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: and Kyle was like, yeah, man. It's a regular season game.
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: Kyle was like, yeah, Bron need to come work with
[1:05:03] Speaker 3: me on this game in the offseason.
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: I was like, ooh.
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: But that's where his mind is. Because Kyle, somebody else
[1:05:11] Speaker 3: might not have seen Kyle on Bron and KD's level.
[1:05:14] Speaker 3: Kyle always saw himself on that level. And so when
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: you start to different when you start to hold on,
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: when you start telling guys like that to sacrifice.
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: And that's why it's going to be a problem. When
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: you start telling guys like.
[1:05:26] Speaker 4: That, that's a number one pick, a franchise guy who's
[1:05:33] Speaker 4: trying to get in this thing. And then someone trumps him.
[1:05:36] Speaker 4: A bunch of these guys think they remember Brown problem
[1:05:40] Speaker 4: has been he's been trumped this whole time.
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: And now he's his problem has been he's never got
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: his flower. Now he's getting Trump. No. Yeah.
[1:05:48] Speaker 4: So he's so he's already been whipped and he's won
[1:05:52] Speaker 4: and he sacrificed already. So you're trying you're trying to
[1:05:56] Speaker 4: make it seem like he had this year the year
[1:05:59] Speaker 4: he had. was only to say, I told y'all.
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: That's it.
[1:06:03] Speaker 5: You traded everybody off.
[1:06:04] Speaker 2: I told you, motherfuckers, I can do it.
[1:06:07] Speaker 4: Now I can go back and do what I've been
[1:06:10] Speaker 4: doing and winning and doing it.
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: You've been fucking me this whole time.
[1:06:14] Speaker 4: What?
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: That was aggressive. Innocence. Okay. You know what I mean?
[1:06:19] Speaker 4: No lotion. Y'all been doing that. All-stars I've won, you
[1:06:23] Speaker 4: haven't given me credit for. All NBAs I could have got,
[1:06:26] Speaker 4: you haven't given me credit. The world watched you put
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: The fourth option.
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: To the USA team when that could have been me.
[1:06:33] Speaker 4: We watched you. And this man still has came up
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: and done his job. He's already been hit with the
[1:06:40] Speaker 4: ego thing. Kai got hit before he got accolades. That's
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: when it happens. When you the dog and you sitting there,
[1:06:50] Speaker 4: this is who I'm here. And then, boom.
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: LeBron comes.
[1:06:58] Speaker 4: And I'm sitting here hitting these shots.
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: Boom.
[1:07:01] Speaker 4: And then all the reporters coming there, you're like.
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, by the... And what did they do? Run to LeBron.
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: Run to LeBron. Hey, LeBron, you won the series fours.
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: You did all that. You sit back there and you
[1:07:11] Speaker 2: sit there like this.
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: But that's why I gave you the example of Kai
[1:07:14] Speaker 3: and K-Love because K-Love was the best power forward in
[1:07:16] Speaker 3: the game at that time. People forget that. So when
[1:07:18] Speaker 3: he had to come over and sacrifice, that meant something.
[1:07:21] Speaker 3: So when Embiid is used to getting 18 shots and
[1:07:24] Speaker 3: you get that cut... Well, high leverage guys don't like
[1:07:26] Speaker 3: them shots getting cut down from 18 shots to eight.
[1:07:28] Speaker 3: Role players know how to survive like that. Hey, I
[1:07:30] Speaker 3: can do two.
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: Role players know how to go from eight shots to
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: six shots. Not a big deal.
[1:07:37] Speaker 3: But when a high leverage guy gets his shots cut
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: from 16 to nine, they start getting up.
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: Hey, man.
[1:07:42] Speaker 3: And then you mess around and.
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: Lose a couple games.
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: Man, I know I ain't out here taking nine shots.
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, your ass going, hey, Maxie been doing that. Maxie
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: been doing that for two years for you. That's for
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: that secret group chat starter. No, no, that's real, but
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: let me say.
[1:07:53] Speaker 4: Maxie, y'all are acting like your beat ain't taking the balance.
[1:07:56] Speaker 4: I know we keep saying it. And B has been
[1:07:59] Speaker 4: the second option.
[1:08:00] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is this.
[1:08:01] Speaker 4: Who's the first option?
[1:08:02] Speaker 2: Maxie.
[1:08:03] Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, okay.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: I don't know if Jalen Brown is going to do that.
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: Maxie got to know. He was the first option, and
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: they've been losing. Who? Maxie has been first option and
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: they ain't one shit.
[1:08:18] Speaker 4: I said culture.
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: Listen, Embiid was the number one option. They ain't one shit.
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown.
[1:08:27] Speaker 4: was the number one option, and y'all didn't win shit.
[1:08:29] Speaker 2: He won. When you was.
[1:08:31] Speaker 4: The first option, you didn't win shit.
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: Who was the finals MVP when Jalen Brown won? Jalen Brown. Okay.
[1:08:39] Speaker 4: Who led every statistical category? Okay, I get that, but
[1:08:43] Speaker 4: was he the first option? He was Eastern Conference. He
[1:08:46] Speaker 4: didn't lead the team in nothing, though.
[1:08:47] Speaker 2: Nothing.
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: Jason led the team in everything.
[1:08:49] Speaker 4: Jason led the team in every category.
[1:08:51] Speaker 2: Except for Eastern Conference Finals MVP.
[1:08:53] Speaker 4: Except for MVP. So that's a series. There's 82 games
[1:08:57] Speaker 4: and then there's... That's fine.
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: Even a playoff... I'm just saying, David, Brown has those things.
[1:09:01] Speaker 4: No, I get that.
[1:09:02] Speaker 2: So picture we lose four games straight. Tyrese Maxey, what
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: is he going to say to Jalen Brown?
[1:09:09] Speaker 4: It was MB's fault.
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: Give me the fucking ball. Okay, hold on. But when
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: he says that, what the fuck does MB say? Because
[1:09:16] Speaker 2: he's going to be like, I get it, bro.
[1:09:18] Speaker 4: I get it, bro.
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: Give me the ball.
[1:09:22] Speaker 5: I think Embiid is tired of that playoff pressure, bro.
[1:09:25] Speaker 5: I'm going to be completely honest.
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: With you, man. No, no, no. But I can tell you,
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: that's not even my problem.
[1:09:31] Speaker 4: That's not even the issue.
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: The issue is not that.
[1:09:35] Speaker 5: Bro, Embiid be hooping in the playoffs? Put the camera
[1:09:39] Speaker 5: on him.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: Do not.
[1:09:40] Speaker 3: Why?
[1:09:41] Speaker 5: I think Embiid is going to be grateful and being like,
[1:09:44] Speaker 5: you know what, bro? When it come playoff time, I
[1:09:46] Speaker 5: got to go up against this playoff defense and I'm
[1:09:49] Speaker 5: injured half the time. I've been averaging 18 a game.
[1:09:52] Speaker 5: I'm glad somebody else is going to be there to
[1:09:54] Speaker 5: help handle the scoring load. Because no matter what, when
[1:09:56] Speaker 5: you go in the Sixers, you're like, we're going to
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: have to stop Maxie. He's going to get his 30.
[1:10:01] Speaker 5: And then we're going to have to stop Embiid. And
[1:10:02] Speaker 5: you want to know who succumbs to the pressure? Embiid, playoff-wise?
[1:10:06] Speaker 5: It's all cool when we're with it.
[1:10:08] Speaker 2: What I'm telling you is, when you lose and they
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: start pointing fingers. When you got LeBron, it changes. We
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: ain't going to be down 2-1. Hold on, hold on.
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: Listen, you said, hold on, Gil. You said because it's
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: been Maxie's team for the last two years, you said
[1:10:22] Speaker 3: Embiid's already been in the backseat. But now you got
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: Bron and you got Jalen Brown. Forget the backseat. He
[1:10:28] Speaker 3: might be in the trunk. So that's what I'm trying
[1:10:30] Speaker 3: to figure out. Maxie got the ball. On some games,
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: Embiid's going to be the fourth option.
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: Forget the backseat. He might be in the trunk. Bro,
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: he can play off the ball, with the ball.
[1:10:39] Speaker 5: Bro, he's getting 20 a night and two steals.
[1:10:41] Speaker 2: No, no, no.
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: I'm talking about Embiid.
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: He's a third option. Damn, dog.
[1:10:46] Speaker 4: Where that come from?
[1:10:47] Speaker 2: That's the truth. You see why me and Brendan are
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: saying they don't have some problems. And B played 90
[1:10:54] Speaker 2: games in three years. I'm straight. This is a hobby
[1:10:57] Speaker 2: to you. Listen, when you come back, the way he
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: got this. You see that F and B? That's exactly. Oh,
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: that's what y'all on? Okay.
[1:11:06] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: You don't want to. Yeah, they could be kicking it.
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: I'm so happy that Kyle. braun and caleb end up
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: figuring it out but that's but dog that first time
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: that first year was hard time that first year dark
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: that first year you'd be like what's that little way
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: but it really happens because they have to deal with
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: so much well you had to deal with it because
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: you was a star of a team but y'all have
[1:11:29] Speaker 2: to deal with so much shit so much pressure so
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: many conversations that.
[1:11:33] Speaker 4: Allow A lot of us don't have to deal with it.
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: But now five of them have to deal with it. No,
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: there's not five of us. There's not five. There's not five.
[1:11:40] Speaker 4: That's one person that winning and losing is going to
[1:11:43] Speaker 4: be blamed for.
[1:11:44] Speaker 2: He's dope.
[1:11:44] Speaker 4: I'm saying DJ.
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: The fact that y'all think DJ Edge come and just like, oh,
[1:11:48] Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. No, I don't think that's
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: a case. The moment they lose for being non-athletic or
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: ain't running fast enough, he going to be like, so
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: I'm this young, I'm ready to play 48 minutes, and
[1:11:59] Speaker 2: I got to wait because y'all older than me? He
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: bet not.
[1:12:01] Speaker 4: He bet not.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: I'm saying you asking people to not.
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: Have an idol. Listen, AF, I love to always talk
[1:12:09] Speaker 3: from my experience, right? So I just talk about what
[1:12:12] Speaker 3: I see, and what you're saying is they bet not.
[1:12:15] Speaker 3: Before y'all got there, I remember having a conversation. Me,
[1:12:19] Speaker 3: Mike Miller, James Jones. We were sitting down with Deion Waiters.
[1:12:23] Speaker 4: Oh, I like Deion.
[1:12:24] Speaker 3: Oh, Deion's cold.
[1:12:26] Speaker 4: Hold on. Double down. South Philly cheese.
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: What up, baby?
[1:12:29] Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: But we were trying to get Deion to realize.
[1:12:34] Speaker 4: Dog.
[1:12:36] Speaker 3: But we were trying to get Deion to realize, you
[1:12:39] Speaker 3: got Braun.
[1:12:40] Speaker 2: Kai and K-Love.
[1:12:42] Speaker 4: That's different. He's from Philly. He's a dog.
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what I'm saying.
[1:12:47] Speaker 4: That's right.
[1:12:48] Speaker 3: He's the guy that wanted the ball. Because you're saying, well,
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: these guys aren't going to think like that. We said, Deion,
[1:12:52] Speaker 3: you're not going to get the same shots. I remember
[1:12:56] Speaker 3: Mike Miller and James Jones trying to tell Deion how
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: he needed to play now that the team looked a
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: little different. And Deion looked him dead in the eyes
[1:13:03] Speaker 3: and said, some of these guys are going to have
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: to get out of the way and make room for me.
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: You know how Mike Miller did it? When he walked off,
[1:13:08] Speaker 3: he was like, he ain't going to be here by Christmas, killer.
[1:13:10] Speaker 4: And he wasn't.
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to show you is the mindset.
[1:13:14] Speaker 3: You think just because Braun is in town, everybody or
[1:13:20] Speaker 3: this guy is there. Some of them guys ain't going
[1:13:23] Speaker 3: to want to hear that. They ain't going to want
[1:13:25] Speaker 3: to hear it because they ain't going to be there.
[1:13:27] Speaker 3: Who's going to be there? He said it in the G.O.
[1:13:33] Speaker 4: Let's just be honest.
[1:13:34] Speaker 5: Bro, Brandon traded some of the top players in the
[1:13:36] Speaker 5: world to be like, you know what?
[1:13:38] Speaker 4: We're out of here, bro.
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: You know what? All right, say less. Let's just be honest.
[1:13:44] Speaker 4: And this is what you're not factoring in. Talk to me.
[1:13:48] Speaker 4: There's only one man that's going to be blamed for
[1:13:51] Speaker 4: losing and gets credit for winning. That's going to be
[1:13:54] Speaker 4: LeBron James. Meaning Jalen Brown gets to pray for him.
[1:13:58] Speaker 4: play free Maxie gets to play free and B for
[1:14:02] Speaker 4: the first time gets.
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: To play free as a third option right.
[1:14:06] Speaker 4: As a third option because what ends up happening is
[1:14:10] Speaker 4: LeBron's legacy will be looked at only everyone else gets
[1:14:16] Speaker 4: the benefit at this moment in time because there's no
[1:14:18] Speaker 4: pressure If Jalen Brown goes out there and misses a
[1:14:21] Speaker 4: game winner, they're going to say, why LeBron?
[1:14:23] Speaker 2: I get it. LeBron, why you didn't get it? You're
[1:14:27] Speaker 2: asking men not to be men, bro. You can be
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: your man, but you get to be it freely.
[1:14:33] Speaker 4: So Jalen Brown, they don't got to look around because
[1:14:35] Speaker 4: LeBron's going to get blamed for all of it no
[1:14:37] Speaker 4: matter what.
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: So you get to play the best free basketball you
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: get to play. This is the first time that Tyrese
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: Massey is going to feel like every game people see this. Yep. Yeah,
[1:14:47] Speaker 2: they see this. Tyrese played it different. You don't have
[1:14:50] Speaker 2: to worry about getting blamed for it.
[1:14:52] Speaker 4: Tyrese approached the game differently. Listen up.
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: Tell that shit to Russell Westbrook. Because the moment they
[1:14:57] Speaker 2: fucking lost, niggas start talking about Russell fucking Westbrook. Who?
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: The whole world was violating this man like he couldn't hoop.
[1:15:09] Speaker 2: I'm like, LeBron James requires you to change your game,
[1:15:13] Speaker 2: act a certain way, move a certain way. Winning follows him.
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: It's nothing he can do about it. It's a big-ass
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: shadow that is just going to come over you.
[1:15:20] Speaker 3: Every game matters. Ain't no more soft Tuesdays. Ain't no
[1:15:24] Speaker 3: more soft Tuesday night games. You lose that Tuesday night game,
[1:15:27] Speaker 3: you leave. In Philly, if they lost a game on
[1:15:30] Speaker 3: a soft Tuesday night, No one brought it up. You
[1:15:33] Speaker 3: lose a game on a Tuesday now, you lead off
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: all the show.
[1:15:36] Speaker 4: Real talk.
[1:15:37] Speaker 2: And now the media is going to say, is Tyrese
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: Maxey not good with LeBron James?
[1:15:43] Speaker 4: Are they having trouble?
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: But that's the narrative.
[1:15:48] Speaker 5: But that's when he gets y'all to match in suits.
[1:15:50] Speaker 5: And then everything.
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: Comes back to him.
[1:15:52] Speaker 3: I never liked to match in suits.
[1:15:54] Speaker 2: Were you on a team for the matching suits?
[1:15:55] Speaker 4: Were you on it? No, I wasn't. You were your time, Brown.
[1:15:58] Speaker 4: Don't do that, man.
[1:15:59] Speaker 2: I didn't have time. I was traded, bro. Oh, what?
[1:16:02] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: Britton is telling y'all this because I was one of
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: the guys that after we won, it was like I
[1:16:09] Speaker 2: still had the mindset like, bro, I'm just now getting
[1:16:13] Speaker 2: back healthy. I could now jump in 360 windmill again.
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: And you're asking me to suppress myself more? I gotta
[1:16:23] Speaker 2: shrink my game more I'm like nigga in three years
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: I'm like I don't even know if I can do
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: all this no more like I got major surgery so
[1:16:30] Speaker 2: my ego crept in so it was like we got
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: our win cool once Brandon was ready like ship him
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: out of here I was cool cool Because it's like, bro,
[1:16:39] Speaker 2: at this point, now I need to elevate as far
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: as becoming a better player. Like, I'm never going to
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: get these reps. How am I going to get these
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: reps if I have to stay like this the whole time?
[1:16:49] Speaker 2: And I'm saying, yeah, you can sacrifice and do all that,
[1:16:52] Speaker 2: but until people are in that position, you can't say
[1:16:57] Speaker 2: everybody's just.
[1:16:57] Speaker 3: Going to do that. I'm not saying what will or
[1:16:59] Speaker 3: won't happen. I'm just saying it takes time. to adjust
[1:17:03] Speaker 3: your mind to go from being the first, second option
[1:17:06] Speaker 3: to some games being the big one.
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: He's so used to the business part.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: He's just thinking like... You're going to learn that media day.
[1:17:12] Speaker 5: When media day show up and you're going to see
[1:17:13] Speaker 5: everybody around Brian, you're going to learn that after the
[1:17:16] Speaker 5: game when you walk in and you wait in 25
[1:17:18] Speaker 5: minutes to get interviewed, you're like, oh wait, time out.
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: The realistic thing is this is my.
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: Y'all ain't got to worry about that. Brian usually go
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: last with the media anyway.
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: You get up out the.
[1:17:28] Speaker 2: Locker room real quick.
[1:17:29] Speaker 4: This is a very.
[1:17:31] Speaker 3: He got like the 10 bags of ice.
[1:17:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, my boy got a wedge of cheese that he
[1:17:38] Speaker 4: sit on.
[1:17:38] Speaker 5: When y'all waiting for him to start practice because he
[1:17:41] Speaker 5: coming from his penthouse in New York.
[1:17:43] Speaker 3: Now he don't be late. They say he live in
[1:17:45] Speaker 3: New York, ain't he?
[1:17:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, he don't be late.
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: Ron is down.
[1:17:49] Speaker 5: I'm saying late or whatever, it's a difference that's obvious.
[1:17:54] Speaker 5: And if you can't tell the difference, bro, you deserve
[1:17:57] Speaker 5: to win shit.
[1:17:58] Speaker 4: Listen up.
[1:17:59] Speaker 2: It's easy as hell.
[1:18:00] Speaker 4: But when you was 26, 27. And Brian walked in.
[1:18:02] Speaker 4: And Brian walked in.
[1:18:04] Speaker 2: And then they basically started talking to you. You'd be like,
[1:18:07] Speaker 2: do y'all realize I just played against this nigga and
[1:18:09] Speaker 2: was trying to. Like, we was trying to beat him. No, absolutely.
[1:18:12] Speaker 4: I dig you, bro. I'm just saying. Y'all are not
[1:18:14] Speaker 4: factoring in the reality of it.
[1:18:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro.
[1:18:17] Speaker 4: The egos of the guys that are there are already, like,
[1:18:21] Speaker 4: in B's knee has already mentally already did it for him.
[1:18:25] Speaker 4: The only person that's up there that has to worry about.
[1:18:28] Speaker 2: It will be Maxie.
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: Because he's never really taken a deduction.
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: Eskom, this is his first rodeo.
[1:18:34] Speaker 4: He's too young.
[1:18:35] Speaker 2: DJ, say something, bro. He's not going to say nothing, bro.
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: Of course. He's going to fall in line. But we're
[1:18:40] Speaker 2: talking about on the court. Can you throw him the
[1:18:43] Speaker 2: ball and trust that he's going to give it to whoever? Listen, man.
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: He's going to average eight. I've been on that team, bro.
[1:18:51] Speaker 2: I don't watch a nigga shoot it and you be like,
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: what the fuck he doing?
[1:18:54] Speaker 5: He's going to average He's going to be the best
[1:18:57] Speaker 5: option in the league.
[1:18:58] Speaker 2: He's going to be back going. He's going to be
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: up and down. He's no problem.
[1:19:03] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown is no problem. Maxie is the only one
[1:19:07] Speaker 4: who is touching.
[1:19:09] Speaker 2: He's like Kyrie right now. He's like Kyrie.
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: Remember, he's coming in. He's been the number one option
[1:19:16] Speaker 4: the last three years. He's the only one that has
[1:19:20] Speaker 4: to change.
[1:19:20] Speaker 3: When Vijay shoot that ball and Brown do this right here,
[1:19:23] Speaker 3: tell me what this means. We start biting them nails.
[1:19:25] Speaker 4: What that mean?
[1:19:25] Speaker 2: Hey, listen.
[1:19:26] Speaker 3: When he's supposed to get that rock and VJ's supposed
[1:19:29] Speaker 3: to get that rock, he start biting them damn nails.
[1:19:31] Speaker 2: It's a wrap. Gil, don't you dare do that. Y'all
[1:19:33] Speaker 2: are talking about a fifth option. call him the fifth option? Defensively,
[1:19:43] Speaker 2: he helps y'all out a whole lot. Athletically, he helps
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: y'all out a whole lot in the athletic league. And
[1:19:47] Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure... VJ Edgecombe ain't just replaceable shit. No,
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: he's not.
[1:19:50] Speaker 3: Who said he's replaceable?
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: Gil said he's fifth. He just said he's fifth. Y'all
[1:19:53] Speaker 2: over here sitting here worried about the fifth. Yeah, because
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: he's going to guard everything. If that's my fifth option, niggas,
[1:19:58] Speaker 2: y'all in trouble. If my fifth option jumps over people
[1:20:02] Speaker 2: and is average at 18, y'all are in trouble. This
[1:20:05] Speaker 2: is my fifth option.
[1:20:06] Speaker 4: Are you tripping? That's what we've been.
[1:20:08] Speaker 2: Talking about the past.
[1:20:09] Speaker 4: My second option. Say it again.
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: Finals if MP.
[1:20:13] Speaker 4: Eastern Conference final MVP. My third option is a superhero.
[1:20:16] Speaker 4: That's my third option. My second option. My third option
[1:20:19] Speaker 4: is a fucking MVP. Scoring title champ.
[1:20:22] Speaker 2: That's my second.
[1:20:23] Speaker 4: Come on, brother. Are y'all tripping?
[1:20:25] Speaker 2: I get it. I'm walking.
[1:20:26] Speaker 4: I've seen so many.
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: Knicks in five. I've seen so many cute things. Knicks.
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: You can't even lose five games. What? You can't even
[1:20:33] Speaker 2: lose five games.
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: Knicks.
[1:20:35] Speaker 2: What?
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: What?
[1:20:37] Speaker 2: What?
[1:20:37] Speaker 4: I can tell you right now.
[1:20:38] Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you how to guard the Knicks.
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, you remember that's a new player, right?
[1:20:51] Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, pick him up full court.
[1:20:53] Speaker 2: Make him dribble. Jalen Brunson? Yeah, make him dribble.
[1:20:55] Speaker 4: That's not going to do anything.
[1:20:57] Speaker 2: Make him dribble.
[1:20:57] Speaker 4: We're going to jump him. Make him dribble. We're going
[1:20:59] Speaker 4: to jump him.
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: He didn't bring it up the whole time.
[1:21:01] Speaker 4: Josh Hart, VJ.
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: VJ, get him. I got dogs now. They got dogs.
[1:21:07] Speaker 3: Listen up.
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: The difference. I'm about to break down the difference. I'm
[1:21:10] Speaker 2: about to break down the difference. Josh Hart, don't have
[1:21:14] Speaker 2: it in him to say, yo, let me get my
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: game on.
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: He don't do that. It don't matter.
[1:21:19] Speaker 2: It do matter. Because at the end of the game,
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: when we're trying to figure out, Maxie, are you going
[1:21:23] Speaker 2: to give it to Brown? Maybe Jalen Brown got it
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: going today. Maybe this. Maybe that. You think New York
[1:21:28] Speaker 2: doing that? No. It's Jalen Brunson time. Figure it out.
[1:21:33] Speaker 2: He done led the playoffs in scoring.
[1:21:35] Speaker 3: How many years in a row?
[1:21:35] Speaker 2: How many years in a row?
[1:21:36] Speaker 4: I think five. About three.
[1:21:37] Speaker 2: No, it's up there now. But I know what his
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: flaw is. It's just like most scores' flaw.
[1:21:42] Speaker 4: It could be the flaw.
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: No, he got the ring.
[1:21:44] Speaker 4: They can't dribble from 94 to a certain. So we're
[1:21:48] Speaker 4: going to pick him up. He didn't do it last year.
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: Pick him up. Yes. Give it to Josh Hart. Bring
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: it up. Bring it up.
[1:21:55] Speaker 4: Bring it up. We're going to speed him up.
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: Get the ball. We're going to jump him. Get the
[1:22:00] Speaker 2: ball out of the way.
[1:22:01] Speaker 4: I got it.
[1:22:01] Speaker 3: Five. I know what he shot the last five minutes.
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: I got four Superstars. That's what I'm talking about. Absolutely right.
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: The last five minutes.
[1:22:07] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:22:08] Speaker 3: The last five minutes when that game slowed down in
[1:22:11] Speaker 3: the playoffs.
[1:22:12] Speaker 2: It's different.
[1:22:12] Speaker 3: The Knicks know exactly where the ball going to go.
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: The guy's been clutched the last three to five years
[1:22:18] Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And Philly going to be trying to
[1:22:20] Speaker 3: figure it out while four guys are saying.
[1:22:22] Speaker 2: I should get the ball. I should get the ball.
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: I should get the ball. I could do it.
[1:22:25] Speaker 4: How you miss that? How you miss that?
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: Why you miss that? We shall see. I was wide open.
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[1:22:32] Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
[1:22:33] Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
[1:22:35] Speaker 3: What you sorry for?
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: I get it. I like it on paper, too.
[1:22:37] Speaker 4: It's exciting.
[1:22:39] Speaker 2: I got it.
[1:22:40] Speaker 4: I don't concede it. Like, my second option is the
[1:22:45] Speaker 4: finals MVP.
[1:22:46] Speaker 2: My third option is an MVP. And you thinking I'm
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: worried about.
[1:22:53] Speaker 4: Whatever the fuck you got over at the Knicks.
[1:22:55] Speaker 2: Hey, what happened? We didn't pay the light bill?
[1:22:56] Speaker 4: Because they have.
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: The other finals.
[1:22:58] Speaker 4: Oh, y'all treat us like that. Y'all just shouldn't have
[1:23:00] Speaker 4: done that?
[1:23:01] Speaker 2: Anyway, hold on. That's Paulo letting you know he's got
[1:23:05] Speaker 2: shit to do. Oh, okay.
[1:23:06] Speaker 1: But listen here, guys. We almost got 30,000 people in
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: the chat right now.
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: Shout out to the chat. Shout out to the chat.
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: They doing what I did last year. What's that? That 130K.
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: That 130K, I'm done. No, we're not done yet, Gil.
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: Everybody make sure you hit that like and subscribe button
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[1:23:23] Speaker 1: Hit that like button. Let's try and get these numbers up.
[1:23:26] Speaker 1: We got one more segment left. It's time to try
[1:23:28] Speaker 1: and finesse some bread on Polymarket. This is Put That
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: On Something. We're going to give you some trades on
[1:23:33] Speaker 1: the Polymarket app, and you've got to pick a side
[1:23:35] Speaker 1: and put that on something. So first off, we just
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: talked about LeBron Sixers. Very spirited discussion about LeBron taking
[1:23:40] Speaker 1: his talents to the city of brotherly love to form
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: that big four. We will see who has to sacrifice
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. But let's take a look
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: at the win projections for this season on the Polymarket app.
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: So Sixers were 45-37 last season. Currently, Polly Markey has
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: them at 51 wins with 78% of traders thinking they
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: will reach that. 68% thinking they will fall below that number.
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you first, then I'm going to
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: go around the couch. Will the Sixers win at least
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: 51 games this season?
[1:24:12] Speaker 2: Yes. Easy.
[1:24:15] Speaker 4: Easy.
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: 52? Yes. 55?
[1:24:19] Speaker 4: Right around there.
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: Think about it.
[1:24:20] Speaker 4: All right.
[1:24:21] Speaker 2: So right around 55. So over 51. Yeah. So you
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: are going with the yes. Yes.
[1:24:26] Speaker 1: On that 51-game threshold. Brandon, let's shift over to you.
[1:24:29] Speaker 1: I'll go over 51. So you think the Sixers are
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: going to win more than 51 games or at least
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: 51 games this season?
[1:24:34] Speaker 4: At least 51 games.
[1:24:34] Speaker 2: And not more. And even more.
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: All right, let's shift to this side. Former Sixer, Evan Turner.
[1:24:39] Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.
[1:24:40] Speaker 2: Low 50s.
[1:24:41] Speaker 4: Anything above like 55, 57.
[1:24:43] Speaker 5: I don't expect them to play that much. You know
[1:24:45] Speaker 5: what I mean? I want to see them They're going
[1:24:47] Speaker 5: to lock you in their spot. Yeah, and be particular.
[1:24:49] Speaker 5: Lock y'all spot in. And call it that. But 50,
[1:24:51] Speaker 5: that sounds good to me. I don't want to see
[1:24:53] Speaker 5: them doing more than that.
[1:24:54] Speaker 2: So at least 51 wins.
[1:24:55] Speaker 4: 51 wins.
[1:24:56] Speaker 2: So 51 or more, you're good.
[1:24:57] Speaker 5: Yeah, 60, you haven't played too much, bro.
[1:24:59] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: I'm putting my money on that. All right, so you
[1:25:01] Speaker 1: put 51 wins. You would do that on the Polymarket app.
[1:25:04] Speaker 2: Okay.
[1:25:05] Speaker 4: Shout out.
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: So let's move on.
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: We talked about the new look Lakers earlier in the
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: show and what to expect from this season with a
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: team built around Luka.
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: We also have championship aspirations. You are the purple and gold.
[1:25:14] Speaker 2: This is Los Angeles.
[1:25:16] Speaker 4: Banners.
[1:25:17] Speaker 1: Didn't even rock with Brown when he brought the first
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: in-season tournament banner.
[1:25:20] Speaker 4: I think he's going to win 82-0. How about that?
[1:25:23] Speaker 4: Let's put that pressure over there.
[1:25:24] Speaker 2: 82-0.
[1:25:25] Speaker 4: They're supposed to go 82-0.
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: I don't think that's realistic. No, I'm not.
[1:25:29] Speaker 4: He's doing that to the Lakers.
[1:25:29] Speaker 2: We're going to do it back. 82-0.
[1:25:31] Speaker 4: They got all them superstars over there.
[1:25:32] Speaker 2: Oh, that's your team, Philly?
[1:25:33] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:25:34] Speaker 3: He's a LeBron guy.
[1:25:35] Speaker 4: He's a LeBron.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: He's team LeBron. He's team LeBron.
[1:25:37] Speaker 3: Wherever LeBron go, he go. If LeBron go there.
[1:25:40] Speaker 2: Oh, you want to kneel? Yeah. I ain't no heat fan.
[1:25:42] Speaker 2: I'm going to wear he at. A stellar license.
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: I'm going to wear he at. Where he at?
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: That's crazy. We got chocolate chip cookies for you guys
[1:25:50] Speaker 2: after the show.
[1:25:51] Speaker 4: Courtesy of LeBron. But Lakers, Gil, let's take a look.
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: At their.
[1:25:56] Speaker 1: What's trading right now on the prediction market on the
[1:25:57] Speaker 1: Polymarket app?
[1:25:59] Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
[1:25:59] Speaker 1: So, Lakers went 53-29 last season. LeBron Sciatica missed a
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: bunch of games. Luka, Austin Reeves, lazy. Come playoff time.
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: Damn. Fourth in the West.
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: Polymarket app has them at 45 games. So, 70% of
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: traders thinking they will reach that threshold. 65% of traders
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: picking them to go below that number. You know, the
[1:26:19] Speaker 1: Lakers are going to win at least 45 games this season.
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: Think about it. You got Luka. Ooh, Luka. We got him.
[1:26:31] Speaker 3: Take the over, man.
[1:26:32] Speaker 4: What do we need in the draft?
[1:26:34] Speaker 2: What? Huh? Relax.
[1:26:37] Speaker 4: Let me see if you even got picks. What do
[1:26:38] Speaker 4: we need in the draft? What do we need on
[1:26:40] Speaker 4: this team?
[1:26:42] Speaker 2: Forward.
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: Forward.
[1:26:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:26:45] Speaker 4: That's a legit. Number one option next year coming into
[1:26:48] Speaker 4: the draft?
[1:26:49] Speaker 3: Next year's draft is going to be kind of weak.
[1:26:51] Speaker 3: This draft is kind of weak. That's not going to
[1:26:53] Speaker 3: be like the draft that just happened.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: We got scope still, right?
[1:26:57] Speaker 1: So Lakers should, their pick falls in the top four.
[1:27:00] Speaker 1: I believe it goes to Memphis.
[1:27:01] Speaker 4: Top four?
[1:27:02] Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Okay. Anything beyond that. All right,
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: all right. So I'm going to take it over then
[1:27:08] Speaker 2: because we ain't got nothing.
[1:27:10] Speaker 4: Lakers will go above.
[1:27:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, we like being number one, and then we get
[1:27:14] Speaker 2: James Wordy.
[1:27:15] Speaker 4: We like shit like that.
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: So Lakers will win at least 45 games this season.
[1:27:18] Speaker 2: What? 45. They're 53-29 last season. You got 45?
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: She's like, Luca, 230 pounds, 105 kilos. Yeah, I'm going
[1:27:21] Speaker 4: to be 45.
[1:27:22] Speaker 2: 45? 105 kilograms. All right. 45. I can do 45.
[1:27:29] Speaker 4: I'm taking over.
[1:27:30] Speaker 2: What did you call Luke?
[1:27:30] Speaker 3: Child support Luka?
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: Child support Luka.
[1:27:33] Speaker 3: Child support Luka is.
[1:27:34] Speaker 4: Going to carry him over the top.
[1:27:36] Speaker 3: Child support Luka. I think Luka is about to be
[1:27:39] Speaker 3: must-see TV.
[1:27:39] Speaker 2: I think he's going to be talking a little more shit, too. Honestly,
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: some of the shit that I had a problem with
[1:27:44] Speaker 2: with the Lakers, I'm like, bro, y'all ain't going to
[1:27:45] Speaker 2: have nobody to talk no shit. If Luka got to
[1:27:47] Speaker 2: talk all the shit, but I.
[1:27:49] Speaker 3: Think child support Luka is going to be unstoppable.
[1:27:51] Speaker 4: Evan, will the Lakers win at least 45 games this season?
[1:27:57] Speaker 4: I'll go with that, 45 for sure.
[1:27:58] Speaker 2: You think yes? 45, 37. Okay. I like that. Yeah, yeah.
[1:28:02] Speaker 2: It's Luka, right?
[1:28:03] Speaker 4: If he ain't lesser, they in trouble.
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: You know the lead.
[1:28:06] Speaker 4: They don't give us a favorable schedule.
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: At least some first 10, 15 games. That's all we need.
[1:28:11] Speaker 1: That's all you need at the beginning. Shum, last but
[1:28:13] Speaker 1: not least, do you think the Lakers will win at
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: least 45 games?
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll cover it. Okay. They'll cover that.
[1:28:20] Speaker 1: That's a yes on the prediction for the Lakers to
[1:28:22] Speaker 1: win 45 games this season.
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: Let's shift over.
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: To the electric face of the franchise, Gil Luca made
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: six All-NBA first teams in his career, finished top five
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: in MVP voting four times. But let's look at the
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: Luca MVP prediction market on the Polymarket app.
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: Right now, traders.
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: have Luka at 16% to win his first career MVP
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: behind Wimby, who's the current clear favorite at 32%. And
[1:28:47] Speaker 1: Shea Gildas Alexander trying to get the.
[1:28:48] Speaker 4: Three-peat, 17%.
[1:28:50] Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Will Luka win his first
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: MVP this season?
[1:28:54] Speaker 4: Yes or no?
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: Hmm. You do got that Frenchie over there.
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: It's not Gray Blue.
[1:29:09] Speaker 4: We weak.
[1:29:10] Speaker 2: I know.
[1:29:11] Speaker 4: It's tough. I know.
[1:29:12] Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking about.
[1:29:14] Speaker 4: I mean, I will put him second. I think that
[1:29:17] Speaker 4: they're going to put Shea down so far.
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, he got to make the vote.
[1:29:22] Speaker 4: They ain't giving him his vote.
[1:29:25] Speaker 5: The only thing I'll say about Wimby is he's going
[1:29:27] Speaker 5: to be in the conversation.
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: It's going to be Wimby.
[1:29:28] Speaker 4: It's going to be Wimby.
[1:29:31] Speaker 2: Luka Jokic, like that. It's going to be in there.
[1:29:33] Speaker 4: For the next four or five years or until further notice.
[1:29:36] Speaker 2: You don't think AE going to be in there?
[1:29:37] Speaker 3: You don't think who going to be in there?
[1:29:41] Speaker 2: Nah, bro.
[1:29:42] Speaker 5: It won't even matter because Wimby's always going to have
[1:29:44] Speaker 5: a defensive player of the year next to his name.
[1:29:47] Speaker 5: So it's going to be tough because what's dude doing?
[1:29:50] Speaker 5: Three blocks a game.
[1:29:51] Speaker 2: He's getting better offensively too.
[1:29:52] Speaker 5: And then he's playing 30 minutes a game because that's
[1:29:54] Speaker 5: just literally how they're working him. He's probably going to
[1:29:58] Speaker 5: win 60 games a year. It's going to be tough.
[1:30:01] Speaker 5: Even with Luka averaging 37 a night, going on that run,
[1:30:04] Speaker 5: he would have to damn near finish top three. And
[1:30:07] Speaker 5: even then, they don't like giving Luka. Luka should have
[1:30:09] Speaker 5: been one of the MVPs. MVP has always been the
[1:30:11] Speaker 5: best combination. KD's finally going to have a point guard
[1:30:13] Speaker 5: this year.
[1:30:14] Speaker 3: Who?
[1:30:15] Speaker 4: Van Vliet.
[1:30:16] Speaker 2: KD? Van Vliet? Van Vliet?
[1:30:19] Speaker 4: Is that a scoring point?
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: We're taking Luka, right?
[1:30:21] Speaker 4: Yes or no.
[1:30:21] Speaker 3: Yes to the trade or no to the trade.
[1:30:26] Speaker 2: I'm just saying KD's average is up. That he's going
[1:30:30] Speaker 2: to win it? Yeah.
[1:30:30] Speaker 4: I would go, I'd probably go no.
[1:30:32] Speaker 3: I think, like I said, to your point, I think
[1:30:35] Speaker 3: because Wimby plays both ends, he has the highest opportunity,
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: and I think the team wins are going to be there.
[1:30:41] Speaker 3: Same thing with Shea. I think, you know, the scoring's
[1:30:44] Speaker 3: going to be there. The team wins are going to
[1:30:45] Speaker 3: be there. That's the key for Luka.
[1:30:47] Speaker 4: We don't know.
[1:30:48] Speaker 3: We think the team wins might be there.
[1:30:49] Speaker 2: They should.
[1:30:51] Speaker 3: But we don't know if the team wins are going
[1:30:52] Speaker 3: to be there. I think the favorites got to be
[1:30:54] Speaker 3: Shea and.
[1:30:57] Speaker 2: And also in Jokic, too.
[1:30:58] Speaker 4: Jokic in the past three or four years.
[1:31:01] Speaker 2: I don't think Jalen Brunson is going to get talked
[1:31:03] Speaker 2: about for it, just coming off the.
[1:31:05] Speaker 3: I think he is.
[1:31:06] Speaker 2: He'll be more into consideration just because he's... You know
[1:31:09] Speaker 2: how it goes.
[1:31:10] Speaker 3: Once you unlock that box, then they start talking about
[1:31:13] Speaker 3: you differently.
[1:31:14] Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson's superpower is fourth quarter and playoffs.
[1:31:16] Speaker 4: So for him to try to.
[1:31:25] Speaker 2: Muster that much energy in a regular season 82 games?
[1:31:29] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[1:31:30] Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's going to get looked at for
[1:31:32] Speaker 2: the conversation different. I feel like the conversation will be
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: a little different. No, no, no.
[1:31:36] Speaker 4: He's going to finally get his talks about it.
[1:31:38] Speaker 5: Yeah, but you've got to bring, like, them boys bringing.
[1:31:41] Speaker 2: 34, 35, I mean.
[1:31:44] Speaker 5: Rebounds, eight, nine, and six. Like, Jokic, the past three years,
[1:31:47] Speaker 5: his numbers have been crazy, and we just, like, never
[1:31:49] Speaker 5: mind it. Even when you look at Luka right now,
[1:31:52] Speaker 5: and I'm talking about Wimpy, who They put in defense.
[1:31:55] Speaker 5: Every time Wimmy's going to be around, he'll be like, Luka,
[1:31:57] Speaker 5: don't score. I'm going to play defense. I'm at a
[1:31:59] Speaker 5: point now where it's like, all right, fuck it. He
[1:32:00] Speaker 5: don't play defense. Let's stop factoring that in. And what's
[1:32:03] Speaker 5: he doing on the other.
[1:32:04] Speaker 4: Side of the ball? No, no, it's just the truth.
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: That's not what he does.
[1:32:07] Speaker 5: Okay, every single year he don't play defense, but he'll
[1:32:10] Speaker 5: put up 55 points for you. What is he doing
[1:32:12] Speaker 5: on his own? When you look at the RPI or
[1:32:15] Speaker 5: whatever value of who he's playing with, He's literally carrying
[1:32:19] Speaker 5: people to the point where it's like, bro, he shouldn't
[1:32:20] Speaker 5: even be in the playoffs.
[1:32:22] Speaker 3: But you know the voters can be influenced.
[1:32:24] Speaker 4: And the voters are people that don't.
[1:32:25] Speaker 3: Even know who the voters are. They might not know,
[1:32:28] Speaker 3: but they are the voters. Hey, listen, the voters can
[1:32:31] Speaker 3: be influenced. Because of the narrative. And Bigfella influenced him.
[1:32:35] Speaker 3: Because Wimby already came out there and said.
[1:32:37] Speaker 4: He talks about it.
[1:32:37] Speaker 3: Wimby said, I think I should be that because of
[1:32:40] Speaker 3: the defense. And then he went out in the playoffs
[1:32:42] Speaker 3: and showed it. And what I'm saying is, when you look,
[1:32:45] Speaker 3: them voters are going to be like, you know what?
[1:32:47] Speaker 2: I respect that. He's right.
[1:32:48] Speaker 3: And so now this year... That's what I'm saying. That's
[1:32:50] Speaker 3: what I'm saying. To your point, I agree with you,
[1:32:54] Speaker 3: but I can see how they start rolling with that
[1:32:56] Speaker 3: because Wimby said it. He stood on it, went into
[1:32:58] Speaker 3: the playoffs, proved it. Now they're going to be like, yeah,
[1:33:00] Speaker 3: Bigfella is right. We should take defense into account.
[1:33:03] Speaker 4: But Wimby was also the first person in a while
[1:33:05] Speaker 4: where he's like, bro, I.
[1:33:06] Speaker 2: Want to win MVP.
[1:33:06] Speaker 5: We didn't know this goofy shit telling me I'm not
[1:33:08] Speaker 5: the face of the league. I don't care if I
[1:33:11] Speaker 5: get MVP.
[1:33:12] Speaker 4: I don't care.
[1:33:12] Speaker 5: It's like, nah, dog. He's saying, like, bro, I'm doing this.
[1:33:15] Speaker 5: Pay attention.
[1:33:16] Speaker 4: And the voters won't be watching. Like, I'm the best
[1:33:19] Speaker 4: out there.
[1:33:19] Speaker 5: And we coming back to him, like, yo, give him
[1:33:21] Speaker 5: the MVP because everybody else acting like.
[1:33:22] Speaker 4: They don't want to.
[1:33:23] Speaker 2: There we go.
[1:33:23] Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Voters can be influenced. That's what
[1:33:27] Speaker 3: I'm saying. I agree with your thought on Luka. But
[1:33:30] Speaker 3: what you just said with him saying, I want to
[1:33:32] Speaker 3: be MVP. I want to be the face. The defense
[1:33:35] Speaker 3: should matter.
[1:33:36] Speaker 2: A lot of voters are going to.
[1:33:36] Speaker 3: Factor that in this year just because Bigfella said it.
[1:33:38] Speaker 3: And then he went out there and proved it.
[1:33:39] Speaker 5: Yeah, but then it becomes criminal in a sense of like... Well,
[1:33:43] Speaker 5: we know it. Yeah, what you don't know is almost
[1:33:46] Speaker 5: plays devil's advocate to like the Kobe situation or even KD.
[1:33:49] Speaker 4: It's like, bro, our best.
[1:33:51] Speaker 5: Player in the league probably ain't going to win MVP
[1:33:54] Speaker 5: but once over a span of like 10, 15 years.
[1:33:57] Speaker 5: And in a Steve Nash situation, we're going to have two.
[1:34:00] Speaker 3: We know guys like Braun and Mike are supposed to
[1:34:02] Speaker 3: have way more MVPs.
[1:34:04] Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
[1:34:05] Speaker 4: And that's why Shea won't win. He has a 0% chance. Yeah,
[1:34:09] Speaker 4: they can't do it because they never did. It's like
[1:34:11] Speaker 4: you said. You know why?
[1:34:12] Speaker 2: Because they never did it for other people.
[1:34:14] Speaker 4: 17% on the Polymarket. Who holds three in a row?
[1:34:18] Speaker 4: Three what? Larry Legend. Larry Legend, right? That's David Stern's guy, right?
[1:34:28] Speaker 4: Anybody who gets two... You're not getting three. I don't
[1:34:31] Speaker 4: give a fuck what your numbers is. You're not taking
[1:34:33] Speaker 4: that away from him. He's part of my golden era.
[1:34:36] Speaker 4: That's one of my children. You're not taking that away.
[1:34:38] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That's why everybody's been screwed
[1:34:43] Speaker 4: on their third one. That man right there, you're not
[1:34:46] Speaker 4: getting that.
[1:34:47] Speaker 2: Get your ass out. You got to.
[1:34:50] Speaker 4: You won't get this one.
[1:34:51] Speaker 2: You can get next year.
[1:34:53] Speaker 5: After a while, you see four or five people that
[1:34:56] Speaker 5: probably could have. Not saying four or five people.
[1:34:58] Speaker 2: But he's saying there's been people that we know. All three.
[1:35:02] Speaker 4: Jordan should have had six in a row.
[1:35:04] Speaker 2: LeBron should have had five in a row.
[1:35:06] Speaker 4: They're not going to do it.
[1:35:07] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:35:08] Speaker 4: And that's just it is. It's just I'm not. Jokic
[1:35:12] Speaker 4: should have had a couple in a row too.
[1:35:13] Speaker 2: Harden. You don't think he should have won MVP a
[1:35:15] Speaker 2: couple years?
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: Harden. Giannis got screwed by Jokic.
[1:35:22] Speaker 2: Jokic got screwed by Embiid.
[1:35:24] Speaker 4: I think James got the MVP he was supposed to get.
[1:35:27] Speaker 5: But they gave it to Rush. They didn't give it
[1:35:30] Speaker 5: shit to Rush. They didn't give shit. At one point,
[1:35:33] Speaker 5: James was hooping crazy.
[1:35:36] Speaker 2: Why he didn't win?
[1:35:37] Speaker 3: I know.
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[1:35:38] Speaker 2: What?
[1:35:38] Speaker 4: I'm saying he said James couldn't.
[1:35:40] Speaker 5: Have both of them. His power forward was 6'4.
[1:35:48] Speaker 2: What? So what? I'm 6'6.
[1:35:51] Speaker 4: I'm a point guard. I'm a small forward. You picked that, though.
[1:35:55] Speaker 2: I didn't pick that. James sat in the meetings. He
[1:35:58] Speaker 2: said who he wanted. He put together a team. Everybody
[1:36:00] Speaker 2: went to the Warriors and the Cavs. It is what
[1:36:03] Speaker 2: it is. I'm not mad at the nigga for it.
[1:36:05] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if James would have won.
[1:36:08] Speaker 4: James would have multiple MVPs.
[1:36:10] Speaker 2: I know, but what I'm saying is when we talk
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: about why they win and my whole starting five, we
[1:36:16] Speaker 2: look like an AAU squad. Come on, y'all.
[1:36:19] Speaker 4: I'm 6'4, 6'2, 6'3, 6'6. I'm out. They said Bron
[1:36:21] Speaker 4: went to the.
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: Who'd you say? Boobie Gibson. Elgowski. Eric Snow. People was
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: talking about his team. He went. Finals. He went. Finals. Swaps.
[1:36:42] Speaker 4: And that's the problem. What? He got penalized.
[1:36:45] Speaker 2: Who?
[1:36:46] Speaker 4: LeBron got penalized.
[1:36:48] Speaker 2: For losing? For taking a sorry team and losing. At 22.
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: He lost. He didn't get penalized for having a bad team.
[1:36:53] Speaker 2: You fucking lost.
[1:36:55] Speaker 3: That's it.
[1:36:56] Speaker 2: There's no... What team did you have? Nigga, you got here.
[1:36:59] Speaker 2: The lights are bright. Did you win? You lost. Go home.
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: You was cool with the team when y'all was taking
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: pictures and doing everything. Everybody loved the Cavs. As soon
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: as they.
[1:37:08] Speaker 4: Lost, it was, he don't have help.
[1:37:10] Speaker 3: When they beat you, they used to cut up. Remember
[1:37:12] Speaker 3: the air guitars?
[1:37:13] Speaker 2: But why is this going crazy? They was hooping, bro.
[1:37:16] Speaker 2: Maybe the the pregame, the picture. That's what I said.
[1:37:19] Speaker 2: It was crazy. They was going nuts.
[1:37:21] Speaker 5: I live in Ohio and you can't, I mean.
[1:37:24] Speaker 2: They was going to hell.
[1:37:26] Speaker 4: Jabar, we had your Mario Moon.
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: Was it Clay? I get that. But on the wing,
[1:37:35] Speaker 2: I can't think of his name. You can if you lose. Yeah,
[1:37:42] Speaker 2: we're going to start ripping y'all team up when we
[1:37:44] Speaker 2: lost to the Warriors. Yeah, they ripped us up. All
[1:37:48] Speaker 2: of a sudden, Iman wasn't even a championship player. He
[1:37:51] Speaker 2: shouldn't even been out there. Dele, they was like, why
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: was Dele even having the ball?
[1:37:57] Speaker 4: Dele almost had a sandwich.
[1:37:58] Speaker 2: Listen, they was talking about us as if we wasn't
[1:38:00] Speaker 2: NBA players. We were still in the championship. So it's
[1:38:04] Speaker 2: like James doesn't get an excuse because.
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: Now his power forward was 6'4. No, you didn't get
[1:38:10] Speaker 4: an excuse.
[1:38:11] Speaker 2: Yes. Why you didn't go get.
[1:38:13] Speaker 4: A 6'8 one? Because they went to.
[1:38:15] Speaker 2: I don't get to pick my team. Because if I
[1:38:17] Speaker 2: had to pick my team, I would have did what
[1:38:18] Speaker 2: LeBron did. You remember when he picked this team and
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: he won?
[1:38:21] Speaker 4: You're like, oh, you can't do that. So you can
[1:38:23] Speaker 4: pick it.
[1:38:24] Speaker 2: Six-four center. Oh, shit.
[1:38:26] Speaker 4: Why you didn't pick it? Because when I pick it
[1:38:27] Speaker 4: and we win, you say the shit don't count. Hold on, what? Huh?
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: LeBron left. Yes.
[1:38:35] Speaker 4: And joined a champion. Okay, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: That's what he did.
[1:38:38] Speaker 4: LeBron first did, hey, Bosh, come here. Dwayne, come here. Hey, boss,
[1:38:44] Speaker 4: I got my two boys when I come in. I'm
[1:38:46] Speaker 4: not paying for that. I just bought this team for
[1:38:47] Speaker 4: $ 400 million. I'm not paying for them.
[1:38:49] Speaker 2: Right. Oh, okay.
[1:38:51] Speaker 4: Hey, Mickey, can you play for all this? Hell, y'all
[1:38:54] Speaker 4: want to win.
[1:38:55] Speaker 2: You see the difference? No. You don't. There's a difference
[1:39:00] Speaker 2: only because there's one version where he doesn't want to
[1:39:07] Speaker 2: beat D. Wade. He wants to join him. He didn't
[1:39:13] Speaker 2: want to beat him. I already beat him.
[1:39:15] Speaker 4: I've been out.
[1:39:16] Speaker 2: I've been with everybody. No, he won his first championship
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: alongside D Wade, sir. But he didn't win before that.
[1:39:24] Speaker 2: That's the problem. Beat him in the championship. That's the
[1:39:28] Speaker 2: only time it counts.
[1:39:30] Speaker 4: The championship.
[1:39:31] Speaker 2: Yes. The regular season is played. Don't get me wrong.
[1:39:34] Speaker 2: It all erases at the end of the season. All
[1:39:38] Speaker 2: the niggas that didn't make the playoffs. We don't care
[1:39:40] Speaker 2: what you did. We don't care. We're glad you're healthy
[1:39:43] Speaker 2: going into next season.
[1:39:44] Speaker 4: Get better.
[1:39:45] Speaker 2: We got these 16. But that's a problem, though. That's
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: not a problem. That's the rules of the game.
[1:39:50] Speaker 4: No, it's not. You going home.
[1:39:52] Speaker 2: No, no, no. Not that. Like, let's pick a team. Okay, Wimby. Yes.
[1:39:58] Speaker 4: No one's saying it right now. Wimby, your legacy is
[1:40:03] Speaker 4: already scratched. You can never touch the mountain of Jordan.
[1:40:07] Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they don't give you credit.
[1:40:08] Speaker 4: Because you lost all time. For being young.
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: And getting to the championship because you lost. You lost.
[1:40:15] Speaker 4: Being inexperienced.
[1:40:16] Speaker 2: You lost.
[1:40:17] Speaker 4: So you, Jason Tatum, all you guys who lost in
[1:40:21] Speaker 4: the championship being young boys, your dynasty is over. You
[1:40:27] Speaker 4: can only come second or third because the man that
[1:40:30] Speaker 4: has it up there Six. Six and 0. And no
[1:40:33] Speaker 4: game seven. So you already get a scratch.
[1:40:36] Speaker 2: But that's the only criteria when you have to deal
[1:40:38] Speaker 2: with somebody that has six championships. None of these niggas
[1:40:41] Speaker 2: have six championships. We don't have to have this conversation
[1:40:45] Speaker 2: until Kobe. We was finna had a conversation. You need
[1:40:48] Speaker 2: one more ring and then we're going to have this conversation.
[1:40:51] Speaker 2: Then it becomes you lost this time in the finals.
[1:40:55] Speaker 2: But you only have to do that when two things
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: are the exact same. Yeah, if we got two red cars, same,
[1:41:02] Speaker 2: make same everything. Yeah, then it's going to come down
[1:41:05] Speaker 2: to the exhaust that you added as opposed to the
[1:41:08] Speaker 2: one I got.
[1:41:08] Speaker 5: So you're saying like they deserve like LeBron and then
[1:41:11] Speaker 5: Wimby deserve more credit making it to the.
[1:41:13] Speaker 4: Finals in 2022?
[1:41:13] Speaker 2: I say that Wimby has never been chasing Mike. All right.
[1:41:19] Speaker 2: Wimby's a fucking big man. If he want to go
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: off Wilt Chamberlain's accolade, I get it. But he's never
[1:41:24] Speaker 2: going to match up with Mike and Kobe. His stats
[1:41:26] Speaker 2: are going to look different. They're going to be weighted different.
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: He's not in that race.
[1:41:30] Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying?
[1:41:31] Speaker 2: I'm like, we only can do it if the cars
[1:41:33] Speaker 2: are the same. See, that's what I'm saying. But that's
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: always been the conversation.
[1:41:37] Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm a big... Now there's a rule. If
[1:41:39] Speaker 4: I'm a big man, I can't even be the greatest
[1:41:40] Speaker 4: of all time. I didn't say that.
[1:41:42] Speaker 2: I'm just saying you're going to be the greatest of
[1:41:45] Speaker 2: all time according to the opinion of what? Because Mike
[1:41:48] Speaker 2: is going to have more points than Wimby.
[1:41:51] Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying?
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: The guard brings the ball up. He can literally choose
[1:41:55] Speaker 2: to not throw you the ball. Yeah, I get it.
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, I wouldn't be mad if somebody said...
[1:42:02] Speaker 2: Wilt's better than this guy, even though this Luca averaging 50,
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: but Wilt's better. I get the conversation because Luca has
[1:42:11] Speaker 2: to decide to throw to you. The point guard has
[1:42:14] Speaker 2: to give to you.
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: I get that.
[1:42:16] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:42:17] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is there's no metrics of giving someone credit.
[1:42:29] Speaker 4: For making it somewhere they didn't supposed to make it.
[1:42:34] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:42:34] Speaker 4: You're a 21-year-old. A Devin Booker. You're a 21-year-old. You
[1:42:38] Speaker 4: don't supposed to make it to the championship. Like Spurs
[1:42:41] Speaker 4: making it to the championship.
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: A.J.
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: Mitchell got hurt.
[1:42:44] Speaker 3: A.J.
[1:42:44] Speaker 4: Mitchell got hurt.
[1:42:45] Speaker 2: Listen up.
[1:42:46] Speaker 4: The reason he's not getting credit is because A.J. Mitchell
[1:42:48] Speaker 4: got hurt.
[1:42:49] Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is it doesn't matter.
[1:42:51] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is because he got there and he lost,
[1:42:54] Speaker 4: no one says, wait, hold on. Hold on. You get
[1:43:00] Speaker 4: credit for taking a team that wasn't supposed to be
[1:43:01] Speaker 4: there there. We don't do that.
[1:43:03] Speaker 2: No, we do. First off, we do give credit.
[1:43:05] Speaker 4: We give you a spanking.
[1:43:06] Speaker 2: You didn't make it there.
[1:43:07] Speaker 4: You lost.
[1:43:08] Speaker 2: Whatever your record is, we're going to use it against you.
[1:43:10] Speaker 2: The same way we say Mike never lost in the finals. Yes.
[1:43:14] Speaker 2: Mike went home his first seven seasons.
[1:43:16] Speaker 4: Nobody uses that. We talk about it.
[1:43:17] Speaker 2: All the time.
[1:43:17] Speaker 4: No, you don't.
[1:43:18] Speaker 2: Just because I love Mike don't mean we wouldn't.
[1:43:20] Speaker 4: Mike was getting tatted. Mike, we was getting tatted. You
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: might individually do it, but you don't.
[1:43:26] Speaker 2: Everybody talk about Isaiah Thomas beating Mike.
[1:43:29] Speaker 4: No, they don't. If they talked.
[1:43:31] Speaker 5: About it, Isaiah's reputation would be a little bit different.
[1:43:34] Speaker 4: A little bit better. It would be better.
[1:43:37] Speaker 2: Bro, Isaiah's a year older than Mike. What's wrong with
[1:43:40] Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas' reputation? It's not as high as his shit, bro.
[1:43:44] Speaker 2: They just wasn't friends. Bro, he spanked Mike. Who don't
[1:43:48] Speaker 2: respect Isaiah Thomas? Not as much as he should, bro.
[1:43:51] Speaker 2: He took it. Bro, Isaiah beat Mike. He won the
[1:43:54] Speaker 2: top PG of all time. With no first round picks.
[1:43:57] Speaker 2: He took Bill Lambert.
[1:43:58] Speaker 5: I'm just saying, what Isaiah did to the Bulls with
[1:44:01] Speaker 5: his team, camaraderie, they should have never even won any championship.
[1:44:05] Speaker 4: Nah, I don't know.
[1:44:06] Speaker 2: He took out the Celtics. He's the first guard, 6'3
[1:44:08] Speaker 2: and under, to be the lead guard, scoring guard, to
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: win a championship. There's only three of them. Dumas wasn't
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: no bitch, though. I feel like y'all just saying it.
[1:44:18] Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan's legacy was what? They tried to say
[1:44:20] Speaker 2: he took out Larry. They tried to say he took
[1:44:23] Speaker 2: out Magic. Who took out Larry and Magic? Isaiah. And
[1:44:28] Speaker 2: then he kept speculating.
[1:44:30] Speaker 5: Shout out to MJ. I ain't even trying to do
[1:44:32] Speaker 5: no blasphemy shit. But then he said like, hey, bro,
[1:44:35] Speaker 5: it took you damn near five or six years to
[1:44:37] Speaker 5: get through me and my minions. You're supposed to be
[1:44:39] Speaker 5: the GOAT and I'm a year older than you in
[1:44:41] Speaker 5: my city?
[1:44:42] Speaker 2: No, if everybody's.
[1:44:45] Speaker 5: Hugging him for beating Larry in Magic, then who is
[1:44:47] Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas, dog? And six feet with lamb beard.
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: Hey, listen.
[1:44:53] Speaker 4: Am I wrong to say that?
[1:44:55] Speaker 2: I don't let nobody disrespect Isaiah. I'm just saying he
[1:44:58] Speaker 2: needs more respect. I'm not going for it.
[1:45:01] Speaker 4: I don't go over D-Rose.
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: I worked with Isaiah for like the last seven years.
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: Isaiah feel just like that.
[1:45:06] Speaker 4: You know why?
[1:45:08] Speaker 3: Isaiah feel just like that to his core, to his soul.
[1:45:11] Speaker 4: That's the difference.
[1:45:14] Speaker 2: That's why his championship weighs a little bit more than
[1:45:17] Speaker 2: it does. You don't see so, bro. His championship. Isaiah
[1:45:22] Speaker 2: had nobody.
[1:45:23] Speaker 4: His championship mean way more than a lot. Talk to me, bro.
[1:45:26] Speaker 2: Look, my championship, honestly, Isaiah, you can have my championship.
[1:45:29] Speaker 4: It don't hold no candle to yours.
[1:45:31] Speaker 2: All right, girl, final thoughts.
[1:45:32] Speaker 4: Talk to me, girl.
[1:45:33] Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Bronco.
[1:45:34] Speaker 3: What you looking up?
[1:45:35] Speaker 4: I want to see where he's ranked in Bleacher Report. Who, Isaiah?
[1:45:37] Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck? He should be higher than what
[1:45:39] Speaker 2: he is. You know why it counts? Why?
[1:45:42] Speaker 4: See, when people always say this don't count, well, that's
[1:45:45] Speaker 4: the official list.
[1:45:47] Speaker 2: What list, though? So we can say we don't give
[1:45:48] Speaker 2: a fuck and it can just be in your heart. No, no, no.
[1:45:50] Speaker 2: The only thing that matters, all NBA team, cool, that matters.
[1:45:53] Speaker 2: Why does that matter? Because that's a direct reflection of
[1:45:56] Speaker 2: how you can deal with a team as far as
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: discussing a new contract. Cool. Bleacher Report is just a list.
[1:46:02] Speaker 2: But that list matters. Yeah, for the girls.
[1:46:04] Speaker 4: Because it actually is real. Our opinion matters. Our opinion
[1:46:07] Speaker 4: is just our opinion. A list that comes out and
[1:46:10] Speaker 4: we're responding to it. You put me right now. I'm
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: ranked 15, but I think I'm 10. Remember, I think
[1:46:16] Speaker 4: I'm 10. They ranked me 15.
[1:46:17] Speaker 2: Gil, we could on this show right now start putting
[1:46:22] Speaker 2: out a list every year. We could do it.
[1:46:24] Speaker 4: No, we don't get a vote.
[1:46:25] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but there's people who get paid to vote.
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: Meaning it's their actual job. Even if we don't get
[1:46:33] Speaker 2: a part of it. You saying, I'm just saying, the
[1:46:36] Speaker 2: people will respect our list more than the people will.
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: The people will. They're the consumer. No, the consumer is
[1:46:41] Speaker 2: whoever gets this list.
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: Basketball fans.
[1:46:48] Speaker 2: Oh, but the list is the list. The list is
[1:46:50] Speaker 2: just getting put out. You know, you know, Joe, if
[1:46:52] Speaker 2: y'all see you trying to fight, what I'm saying is opinion.
[1:46:54] Speaker 4: Opinion comes because we don't like it.
[1:46:57] Speaker 3: Opinion comes because we don't like it. But Isaiah Thomas'
[1:46:59] Speaker 3: problem is exactly what's.
[1:47:00] Speaker 2: Wrong with today.
[1:47:00] Speaker 7: Today, today, If they did it what they do now
[1:47:14] Speaker 7: to back then, Isaiah would be wherever he is.
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: But the rules were different then. Hey, Jordan, the team
[1:47:20] Speaker 4: ain't ready to win. So he's not going to get
[1:47:22] Speaker 4: penalized for this. When he was ready to win and
[1:47:25] Speaker 4: had a championship team and an expectation to win, he
[1:47:30] Speaker 4: never lost.
[1:47:30] Speaker 2: That's all that mattered.
[1:47:31] Speaker 4: And that was a first-time story. And that's how that worked.
[1:47:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, game apart.
[1:47:34] Speaker 4: No, it's just facts.
[1:47:35] Speaker 2: Mike never lost in the finals.
[1:47:37] Speaker 4: It's a fact. Yeah, it's a fact.
[1:47:39] Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas kicked Mike's ass all up and down the
[1:47:42] Speaker 2: aft in front of everybody in Chicago. It's a fact.
[1:47:45] Speaker 2: But it don't count. It do count. It counts, buddy.
[1:47:48] Speaker 2: How many medals does Michael Phelps have? A lot. 18, 19, 20?
[1:47:50] Speaker 2: A lot.
[1:47:50] Speaker 4: I don't know how many. 21.
[1:47:51] Speaker 2: Let's just say 20 plus.
[1:47:52] Speaker 4: 20 plus. 20 plus.
[1:48:04] Speaker 2: Let's say that.
[1:48:05] Speaker 4: That's golds, silvers, and bronze, right?
[1:48:10] Speaker 2: Nasty. 23 golds, 3 silvers, 2 bronze.
[1:48:13] Speaker 4: So 28.
[1:48:13] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:48:14] Speaker 4: The silvers must have been like... Say it one more time.
[1:48:16] Speaker 2: 23 golds, 3 silvers, 2 bronze.
[1:48:18] Speaker 4: God damn, that boy got blamed for everything. time I
[1:48:20] Speaker 4: come around. Before 98.
[1:48:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:48:21] Speaker 4: It used to be talk like that.
[1:48:28] Speaker 3: Count the silver and the bronze.
[1:48:29] Speaker 2: I count the silver. I was good.
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: I got to the championship. I lost to a better team.
[1:48:35] Speaker 4: But don't pretend that I didn't make the fucking playoff.
[1:48:37] Speaker 4: We're not going to pretend I lost to the first round.
[1:48:39] Speaker 4: You're going to give me my respect because I.
[1:48:41] Speaker 2: Made it to the championship. Yes, we respect that.
[1:48:43] Speaker 4: You're not going to treat second place.
[1:48:48] Speaker 2: Like we.
[1:48:49] Speaker 4: No, no, no. You know what I mean? So, in theory,
[1:48:54] Speaker 4: there's a reason there's a logo for a man who
[1:48:58] Speaker 4: went there and only won once, but he got there
[1:49:00] Speaker 4: so many times. So, we're not going.
[1:49:02] Speaker 2: To, huh?
[1:49:04] Speaker 3: He lost way more than he won.
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: You see how you throw a wrinkle out there? The
[1:49:08] Speaker 4: fact is... If somebody lose 11 times in the finals,
[1:49:11] Speaker 4: you got to.
[1:49:11] Speaker 2: That one don't count. Hey, dude!
[1:49:13] Speaker 4: But that's what they did.
[1:49:15] Speaker 2: I'm saying in general, bro.
[1:49:16] Speaker 4: You got there 11 times.
[1:49:18] Speaker 2: That matters.
[1:49:18] Speaker 4: You got one goal, 10 silvers.
[1:49:20] Speaker 3: If Jerry West had to play in today's media, I
[1:49:23] Speaker 3: agree with Gil. He would be talked about way differently.
[1:49:40] Speaker 3: He was murdered. They would kill Jerry West in today's game.
[1:49:43] Speaker 2: Yeah. They would kill him.
[1:49:44] Speaker 3: In today's media, they would kill him.
[1:49:45] Speaker 4: They would kill him for.
[1:49:46] Speaker 2: Losing all those. We'll see what they'll do with Luka
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: this season. Why you keep bringing it back to Luka, man?
[1:49:50] Speaker 4: You're a Laker hater.
[1:49:51] Speaker 2: I'm trying to segue. You're a Laker hater. I'm trying
[1:49:54] Speaker 2: to segue.
[1:49:55] Speaker 4: Hey, y'all got some secret shit going on? When he
[1:49:57] Speaker 4: turn off the light, that mean shut up? I think so. Okay,
[1:50:00] Speaker 4: all right.
[1:50:01] Speaker 2: Did we give it away? But that was put that on.
[1:50:05] Speaker 2: That was put that on something.
[1:50:07] Speaker 4: Hey, man, Joe, listen, listen, listen.
[1:50:09] Speaker 2: Man, you listen. I'm sorry. We baked a lot of
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: time last year.
[1:50:14] Speaker 4: I know, girl.
[1:50:14] Speaker 2: You're trying to get it all back. You're trying to
[1:50:16] Speaker 2: get it all back. I baked a lot of time.
[1:50:18] Speaker 2: You're trying to get it all back. We should be
[1:50:19] Speaker 2: doing motherfuckers a four the way I baked it.
[1:50:22] Speaker 4: I was in the middle of conversation. I'll be like this.
[1:50:26] Speaker 2: I'm out of here. I'm not happy here.
[1:50:28] Speaker 4: I'm glad somebody's watching the clock.
[1:50:30] Speaker 2: When we start talking about basketball, we'll be here all day.
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[1:51:00] Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to discuss tomorrow. I think
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[1:51:04] Speaker 1: And we may have a special surprise for everybody. So
[1:51:06] Speaker 1: make sure you tune in. Shout out to the 30,000 people.
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: 30,000 in the chat.
[1:51:10] Speaker 4: Good.
[1:51:11] Speaker 2: To the live show today.
[1:51:13] Speaker 4: What is it, a watch? You say you're going to
[1:51:15] Speaker 4: get a surprise. You say, what is it?
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: Oh, shit. We'll see.
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